[12:27] its gcc.... [12:27] like i said [12:28] 128 megs here and xubuntu runs about 70% faser than freespire does on this old laptop .. :) [12:28] I am a happy camper... [12:29] <__Serge__> cool === Tampler [n=Mbvana@83.142.21.168] has joined #xubuntu === __Serge__ [i=ircap@pc-49-239-45-190.cm.vtr.net] has left #xubuntu [] === cellofellow [n=josh@69-71-169-23.mammothnetworks.com] has joined #xubuntu [12:49] Is there a way to make symlinks with Thunar? [12:49] you can make a link to the desktop [12:50] right click send to desktop (create a link) [12:50] hmm [12:50] but no Copy/Paste Link? === newuser01 [n=jose@10.59.103.87.rev.vodafone.pt] has left #xubuntu [] === twiggz [n=mike@75-161-39-243.albq.qwest.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:58] will apt-get upgrade work easily to get from 6.06 to the latest release? [12:59] its dist-upgrade [12:59] but many people have had problems upgrading over more than 1 version [01:04] bummer. [01:05] im not an ubuntu user....but the gf needs a better OS and i dont particularly feel like downloading another damn cd....so i reckon she will have to give that a try. or live with zenwalk like normal people. [01:07] twiggz: The amount you will have to download to upgrade from 6.06 to 7.04 will be almost the same as downloading the CD image for 7.04 [01:07] Does xubuntu ship cd's ? [01:07] nope [01:07] k [01:07] you can install a ubuntu server then install xubuntu-desktop === eagle-101 [n=eagle@wikimedia/Eagle-101] has joined #xubuntu === __Serge__ [i=ircap@pc-49-239-45-190.cm.vtr.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:18] <__Serge__> Hi [01:18] <__Serge__> i have a question... [01:19] hi [01:19] shoot [01:19] <__Serge__> why should i choose xubuntu instead of ubuntu or kubuntu? [01:20] because its faster and looks better [01:20] and why not? === Smygis [n=smygis@e611.cust.vannas.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:21] <__Serge__> ok but... [01:22] <__Serge__> i think xubuntu is faster and lighter than ubuntu because it has not some things that ubuntu has... [01:22] <__Serge__> am i right? [01:22] partly [01:23] its not just a striped down gnome === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@p54B97BB2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:23] its just a alternative to KDE and GNOME that is faster [01:24] it doesnt have a setting manager for everything like KDE [01:26] its kinda in the middle GNOME gives little for the user to configure how he/she likes. and KDE has odles of settings. xfce has a number of settings but not 20,000 of them [01:27] <__Serge__> i see [01:27] and it has less integrated programs like KDE [01:27] <__Serge__> but, for example... [01:27] <__Serge__> can i play music with xubuntu? [01:27] yes [01:27] you can install the same packages as ubuntu or kubuntu [01:27] <__Serge__> nice... [01:28] they all use the same repo [01:28] the only diffrence if the defualt installed packages [01:29] you can take a kubuntu install remove all the KDE stuff and install ubuntu-desktop and you will have an ubuntu install. remove all the GNOME stuff and you can get xubuntu-desktop. [01:30] <__Serge__> nice... [01:30] <__Serge__> very flexible stuff... [01:30] they have the same core packages. doing what i said above noramly leaves leftovers unless you remove every package. one way to isntall xubuntu is install a ubuntu server (command line only) and then isntall xubuntu-desktop to get the gui [01:31] a lot of xubuntu users use Konversation on their system [01:31] or replace mousepad with Kate [01:31] <__Serge__> what is kate? [01:31] or xfce-terminal with gnomes [01:31] I use Gedit [01:31] one of KDE's numerous text editors === Jester45 uses nano [01:32] <__Serge__> ok === HorD [n=HorD@unaffiliated/hord] has joined #xubuntu [01:33] __Serge__, so if you feel like it you can install xubuntu try it and if you dont like try the other *-desktop packages and find one you like === HorD [n=HorD@unaffiliated/hord] has joined #xubuntu [01:33] then you might want to install from a cd that desktop because useing the -desktop packages leaves stuff behind [01:34] <__Serge__> very nice... [01:34] <__Serge__> i thought it was more difficult... === R[a] ndom [n=random@dhcp-0-9-5b-fe-6a-d9.cpe.i-zoom.net] has joined #xubuntu === cliebow [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [01:49] <__Serge__> what about games? [01:49] <__Serge__> can i play starcraft in x/k/ubuntu? [01:49] <__Serge__> or soldat, quake, etc? [01:50] <__Serge__> ? === HorD is away: Ausente por ahora. #ubuntu-lat [01:52] <__Serge__> hello??? [01:54] <__Serge__> ???? [01:54] <__Serge__> anyone? [01:56] hi [01:56] you can play windows games via wine or there are a lot of games in the repo === tripppy [n=tripppy@c220-237-80-19.kelvn1.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu [01:57] <__Serge__> but i want to play starcraft... [01:57] <__Serge__> can i do it on ubuntu [01:57] <__Serge__> ? [01:57] have a look at the app db at wine hq [01:58] <__Serge__> ok but.......... [01:58] i think you can there is only a small sound problem if i remeber [01:58] <__Serge__> ....what is wine???? [01:58] wine is a API layer [01:58] <__Serge__> ....is a what???? : ) [01:58] kinda like an emulator but its not === Catoptromancy [n=cat@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:58] <__Serge__> sorry, i'm a newbie... : P [01:58] lets you run windows programs in linux [01:58] <__Serge__> aaaahh.... nice... [01:58] you cant just run windows programs from linux [01:59] you need to use wine its pretty good [01:59] <__Serge__> i see [01:59] a bit slow [01:59] <__Serge__> aahhh... because in windows the executables have ".exe"... [01:59] <__Serge__> and in linux: ".bin" [02:00] <__Serge__> isn't it? [02:00] no... because windows has i diffrent api [02:00] <__Serge__> oh... ok... [02:00] <__Serge__> what is api? [02:00] no linux can have an executable with the extension .txt if you wanted [02:00] <__Serge__> WHAT???? [02:00] wikipedia can tell you a lot about api [02:01] linux doesnt need an extension to tell it what the file is [02:01] <__Serge__> okay... [02:01] many files are just the name [02:02] and you can make any file an executable... but a plain text file woudnt do anything [02:02] <__Serge__> interesting [02:03] <__Serge__> and [02:03] __Serge__, you should read a lot of wikipedia :) it knows a lot of stuff [02:03] <__Serge__> can i have something like IRC on ubuntu? [02:03] ... how do you think im talking to ya [02:03] <__Serge__> ok, i'll do it : ) [02:03] you can use gaim its preinstalled or xchat wich is more like mirc [02:03] <__Serge__> lol... of couse... : P [02:04] <__Serge__> well... [02:04] <__Serge__> thanx 4 all the info... [02:04] <__Serge__> oh wait wait [02:04] <__Serge__> is open office compatible with windows office? === Jester45 isnt leaving soon [02:04] yes [02:04] <__Serge__> but [02:05] <__Serge__> if i make a .doc file with windows office and i open it with open office.... can open office read it? [02:05] i dont know about ms powerpoint i dont think you can make them but im pretty sure you can view them [02:05] yes [02:05] <__Serge__> really?... nice... [02:05] and i think mousepad or abiword can also [02:05] <__Serge__> wow... awesome... === TopDawg216_ [n=ryan@cpe-76-189-124-237.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:06] <__Serge__> then why i still have windows on my computer? lol... : ) [02:06] linux isnt totally apart from windows... or else less people will use it [02:06] <__Serge__> yes, i suppose... === NKUMike [n=lapemi@66.42.230.157] has joined #xubuntu [02:07] <__Serge__> what about the virus? [02:07] __Serge__, and remember if you want to find a program to do somthing use apt-cache search [02:07] <__Serge__> does ubuntu have anti-virus? [02:07] <__Serge__> ok, thx... : ) [02:07] __Serge__, virus? what linux doesnt have viruses :) [02:07] or at least any that can do much [02:08] <__Serge__> what?? what do you mean? [02:08] and they are really really really rare [02:08] <__Serge__> "linux doesn't have viruses"?? [02:08] the most they can do is remove your config files and mabe your multimedia files [02:10] <__Serge__> hey, i read something... [02:10] <__Serge__> linux is unaffected by viruses... [02:10] <__Serge__> !!!!!! [02:10] <__Serge__> is that true? [02:10] mostly true [02:10] <__Serge__> that's awesome!! [02:10] <__Serge__> i can't believe it... [02:11] there is clamav but thats is for scaning files so windows doesnt get it from linux [02:11] hehe [02:11] why do you think a lot of web servers run linux/unix/or a bsd [02:11] <__Serge__> i see... [02:11] <__Serge__> it's amazing... [02:11] theres that, and most linux users don't run as root (equivalent to Admin in windows) [02:12] <__Serge__> right now i'm using an antiviros that uses like 100MB of RAM [02:12] <__Serge__> and a lot of CPU [02:12] Norton? =p [02:12] <__Serge__> lol... ; ) [02:12] Most recommend Avast *shrugs* [02:13] <__Serge__> and if i don't need an antivirus... then i'll have a lot more free cpu and ram... [02:13] norton is the worst and it cost money... kinda like windows [02:13] <__Serge__> yeah... [02:13] and your harddrive will seem faster becuase your not using ntfs [02:13] <__Serge__> now i understand why Tarantino made "Kill BILL"... [02:13] <__Serge__> lol... === TopDawg216_ [n=ryan@cpe-76-189-124-237.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:14] heh [02:14] many of jokes on that [02:15] <__Serge__> lol... [02:15] <__Serge__> So... what has windows that x/k/ubuntu has not? [02:15] umm [02:15] thats a good one [02:15] <__Serge__> : P [02:16] some special programs that you cant get to run under wine [02:16] <__Serge__> like which one? [02:16] <__Serge__> aaahh.. [02:16] or... no free upgrades [02:16] <__Serge__> like notepad++, for example? [02:16] <__Serge__> i love that text editor [02:16] well thats use you look at the native linux things [02:17] windows has aero... o wait we got compiz-fusion linux wins [02:17] <__Serge__> : P [02:17] <__Serge__> but does ubuntu have any program that plays mp3? [02:17] <__Serge__> and wma? [02:18] yea you want a list [02:18] <__Serge__> lol... [02:18] <__Serge__> well, if u recommend me one or two i'll be happy... : ) [02:18] mplayer vlc xmms mpd+mpc amork [02:18] <__Serge__> nice.. [02:19] <__Serge__> what about emulators? === SamRose [n=SamRose@c-71-206-109-110.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:19] <__Serge__> i love emulators [02:19] <__Serge__> for example [02:19] there are literaly 100's of media players in the repo [02:19] <__Serge__> can u play snes games in ubuntu? [02:19] yea [02:19] <__Serge__> really?? [02:19] let me get you the name [02:19] <__Serge__> please... === varka_ [n=varkatop@p54A5D783.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:20] as you would want to do if you install "apt-cache search snes" [02:20] <__Serge__> ok. [02:20] zsnes xmess gsness9x [02:20] <__Serge__> nice... thanx a lot... === Catoptromancy [n=Miranda@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:20] <__Serge__> i'll install x/k/ububtu as soon as possible... [02:21] :) [02:21] <__Serge__> is the best option... definetively... === Jester45 got another to convert [02:21] better watch out billy im out to get ya [02:21] <__Serge__> lol... u got me... [02:22] and you have a lot more control over your system [02:22] <__Serge__> little by little the penguin is winning terrain... : ) [02:22] if you dont like it remove it [02:22] <__Serge__> very nice, very simple... [02:22] <__Serge__> not like billy's windows... with a lot of unnecesary applications running hidden... [02:23] yep [02:23] and you even get control over the boot splash :) [02:23] <__Serge__> well, thanx a lot for all the info... : ) [02:23] <__Serge__> nice [02:23] and memory useage [02:23] <__Serge__> oh, one more thing.. [02:24] like me allmost of my ram is used before swap get toched [02:24] <__Serge__> you know, once i saw "transparent windows" on ubuntu... [02:24] yea... [02:24] <__Serge__> which one of the ubuntus flavors have that? [02:24] <__Serge__> i love that windows.. [02:24] all of them can get it [02:24] <__Serge__> and how? [02:25] ubuntu as the best support but thats only because thats the most used one [02:25] there is 2 ways to get good support [02:25] use beryl or use compiz [02:25] Xubuntu's default transparency is only transparency. You get more effects with Compiz. [02:25] look on some video sites for ubuntu+beryl [02:25] <__Serge__> all right.. [02:26] and its slower than compiz's [02:26] <__Serge__> then xubuntu is the one with that effect of transparency...? [02:26] ubuntu has it also [02:26] and kubuntu probly does [02:26] <__Serge__> really? where? [02:26] <__Serge__> i tried the live version of ubuntu 7.04 [02:27] <__Serge__> and i didn't find it.. [02:27] ubuntu also has some compiz features like the desktop cube and wiggly windows [02:27] umm [02:27] system -> effects i think [02:27] Ubuntu has Metacity, which I believe can make transparency. Xubuntu's XFWM4 and Kubuntu's KWin can I know. [02:27] <__Serge__> okay [02:27] alt-F2 [02:28] desktop-effects [02:28] I got both the later ones working. [02:28] latter* [02:28] <__Serge__> nice... very nice... : ) [02:28] <__Serge__> well, thank u very much for all... [02:28] <__Serge__> have to go... [02:28] <__Serge__> see you later.. [02:28] <__Serge__> : ) [02:28] <__Serge__> Byeee... [02:29] bye === __Serge__ [i=ircap@pc-49-239-45-190.cm.vtr.net] has left #xubuntu [] [02:31] that guy had a lot of questions [02:31] but as long as he likes linux it doesnt really matter === thomas [n=thomas@dialup-4.245.121.157.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === thomas is now known as BFTD-server === __Serge__ [i=ircap@pc-49-239-45-190.cm.vtr.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:05] <__Serge__> Hello again... [03:05] <__Serge__> i have another question... [03:05] <__Serge__> i have ubuntu 7.04... what will happen after 10/08? [03:06] <__Serge__> i will not receive free updates? [03:06] <__Serge__> ? [03:07] <__Serge__> hello? === SamRose [n=SamRose@c-71-206-109-110.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:07] <__Serge__> hellooo? [03:07] <__Serge__> ... [03:08] <__Serge__> ??? [03:09] ??? [03:09] ... [03:10] <__Serge__> hi.. : ) [03:10] hellooo? [03:10] <__Serge__> if i have ubuntu 7.04... what will happen after 10/08? [03:10] nothing [03:10] Don't we all die? [03:10] <__Serge__> lol... : P [03:10] <__Serge__> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28Linux_distribution%29 [03:11] it will stay the same as 09/08 unless you do somthing to it [03:12] it will not be supported. is that what you are asking about [03:12] <__Serge__> yeah [03:12] <__Serge__> so... [03:12] <__Serge__> that means i will not get updates? === Laibsc1 [n=Laibsch@p54B97F59.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:13] <__Serge__> ? [03:13] <__Serge__> another question... [03:14] <__Serge__> does anyone know a c compiler for x/k/ubuntu? [03:14] I need to figure out what the IP is on a computer on my network [03:15] __Serge__: No, it won't get updates. There is an upgrade path to supported versions. [03:15] As for a c compiler, see gcc. [03:15] <__Serge__> ok, thanx : ) [03:16] <__Serge__> but, you know [03:16] <__Serge__> today i tried the live version of ubuntu 7.04 and [03:17] <__Serge__> i searched a c compiler with "add/remove" [03:17] ? [03:17] <__Serge__> and i didn't find anyone... [03:17] <__Serge__> did i do something wrong? [03:18] __Serge__, you might not of selected the show all options a better and faster way is apt-cache search c compiler [03:18] but i told you 3 times eariler it was gcc [03:18] <__Serge__> yes but [03:19] <__Serge__> i knew something else [03:19] <__Serge__> gcc [03:19] <__Serge__> is already with ubuntu [03:19] <__Serge__> ...how do i use it? [03:19] man gcc [03:20] <__Serge__> man? === joetheodd [n=joe@dpc674776052.direcpc.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:21] its a program [03:21] <__Serge__> aahh... for "manual"... [03:21] yep your best friend [03:21] <__Serge__> yes... i'm reading an ubuntu tutorial here... : ) [03:21] <__Serge__> sorry... please don't hate me... i'm just a newbie here... : P === m0u5e_ [n=denniska@61-229-44-216.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:22] its ok [03:22] <__Serge__> : ) [03:22] normal question we answer [03:23] <__Serge__> do u know any other c compiler (not so basic like gcc)? maybe like dev-cpp? [03:24] apt-cache search it [03:25] <__Serge__> alll right [03:25] Err, gcc can hardly be described as 'basic'. [03:26] Pumpernickel, please explain :) [03:26] <__Serge__> yes yes... u r right... [03:26] <__Serge__> but i mean [03:26] <__Serge__> some compiler with an interface... like dev-cpp... [03:27] <__Serge__> not a command compiler [03:27] That would be an IDE you're looking for, then. [03:27] <__Serge__> exactly... that was the word i was looking for... : P [03:27] <__Serge__> i want an IDE : ) [03:28] You might find Anjuta interesting. [03:28] If not, there are alternatives. [03:29] <__Serge__> mmm... anjuta... ok, thx : ) [03:29] <__Serge__> and [03:29] <__Serge__> do u know notepad++? [03:29] Nope. [03:29] <__Serge__> : ( === rexbinary [n=rexbinar@unaffiliated/rexbinary] has joined #xubuntu [03:31] Hmm... if you're looking for something similar, you might want to check out Scite. [03:32] <__Serge__> hey... yes! i remember something called scintilla... [03:32] <__Serge__> a text editor [03:32] <__Serge__> with specific language features... === NKUMike [n=lapemi@66.42.230.157] has joined #xubuntu [03:35] __Serge__: Lots of text editors use Scintilla. Like Dr. Python for Python for example. [03:36] <__Serge__> i see... [03:36] There's a nice one for Winblows called Notepad++. [03:36] <__Serge__> exactly!! [03:36] <__Serge__> i love that program... [03:36] \ [03:36] <__Serge__> and i'm looking something similar for ubuntu [03:36] <__Serge__> do u know someone? [03:40] <__Serge__> ? [03:43] scite is nice [03:44] SciTE is nicer in Linux than Windows. More like Notepad++. [03:45] <__Serge__> really? [03:45] <__Serge__> that's cool! [03:45] or you could do apt-cache search scintilla and see what comes up. [03:45] <__Serge__> that's what i'm looking for... [03:45] It's configured with text files, which I've found odd. [03:49] cellofellow, programs configured in text files? how is that odd === [tokin] [n=ryan@dynamic-acs-24-144-225-167.zoominternet.net] has joined #xubuntu === __Serge__ [i=ircap@pc-49-239-45-190.cm.vtr.net] has left #xubuntu [] [04:00] Jester45: GRAPHICAL programs configured in text files. [04:01] What's that card-interface slot that's bigger than a PCI and found in older computers called? [04:02] anyone? [04:08] Does one have to set up samba before trying to mount a windows network drive? === aroo [n=justin@108.120.207.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [04:13] cellofellow, agp? [04:14] NKUMike, yes i think so, that way you can comunicate with windows [04:14] cellofellow: ISA [04:14] Or just an earlier version of PCI that had larger connectors. === jgamio [n=jgamio@190.72.53.158] has joined #xubuntu === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #xubuntu === BFTD [n=thomas@216.139.26.215] has joined #xubuntu === phryde [n=phryde@adsl-074-170-159-014.sip.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:28] help [04:29] anyone awake? [04:29] !anyone [04:29] !anyone [04:29] heh [04:29] A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? [04:29] ...and the bot is dead. [04:29] right [04:29] ok [04:30] nvidia drivers... can't figure out why they keep uninstalling themselves when i reboot [04:30] everytime i've got to reboot i've got to reinstall them [04:30] very frustrating situation [04:31] Did you use the package in the repository, or another installation method? [04:31] i purged all the repo ones and used the one off the site [04:32] i've tried everything [04:32] i think it may have something to do with the filesystem [04:32] like it's not being written [04:33] it's reiserfs [04:33] is there a way to query how much memory a video card has? [04:34] yep [04:34] lspci then google the model [04:34] :) [04:34] LoL [04:34] yep [04:44] figures [04:44] im sure there is a way with opengl [04:44] was trying that, and wanted to know if there was an easy way. [04:44] sounds retarded Pumpernickel ? [04:44] nvclock will tell you if it's nvidia [04:44] i think [04:44] dmesg [04:44] rovclock for ati :) [04:44] look on the box [04:44] phryde: Nope, the driver is loaded to a temp fs at /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/volatile, assuming you're using the Ubuntu setup. [04:44] Which you aren't. [04:44] the x error is something like the versions arent matching [04:44] That would be because there's a mismatch between what's available for the kernel and what's available for xorg. [04:44] right but it installs fine... doesn't error until reboot [04:44] It really will save you a lot of bother if you use the driver from the repository. [04:44] it does the same thing === HorD is back. [04:44] so long as i use nvidia in xorg.conf it does it [04:44] and it upgrades from the repo [04:44] i'd do that if i could... i only dl'd the one off the site to try and fix it [04:44] maybe blacklist the kernel one? [04:44] it's got to be filesystem... when i edit files it tells me it's readonly [04:44] but it's mounted rw [04:44] should have never put / on reiserfs [04:44] phryde, my / is reiser [04:44] it doesn't get corrupt? [04:44] nope [04:44] where other than fstab is the ro/rw attributes applied to a fs? [04:44] what version do you have [04:44] ? [04:45] dunno [04:45] do you have reiserfsv3 or v4 [04:45] 3 [04:45] hehe [04:45] i think [04:45] v3 isnt that much faster than other fs [04:45] at least to me [04:45] yea i don't find it fast at all [04:47] you use anything other than defaults in fstab? [04:49] notail,errors=remount-ro [04:51] 0 2 ? [04:52] 0 1 [04:52] leave defaults? [04:53] or is that wrong? [04:53] my options are notail,errors=remount-ro [04:53] ok [04:54] on just /? or all of em? [04:54] on just / [04:54] ok [04:54] gonna reboot... brb === NKUMike [n=lapemi@66.42.230.157] has joined #xubuntu [05:00] why do people reboot for this stuff? [05:01] Would anyone like to hold my hand and walk me through vnc setup? [05:03] ubotu will [05:03] Sorry, I don't know anything about will - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [05:03] !nvc [05:03] Sorry, I don't know anything about nvc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [05:03] !vnc [05:03] VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely. It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX [05:03] *hand still empty === Jester45 makes a tighter fist [05:05] wow === HorD is away: Ausente por ahora. #ubuntu-lat === phryde [n=ubuntu@adsl-074-170-159-014.sip.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:17] heh [05:17] might have been the problem [05:17] kernel ppanicked [05:18] time to upgrade to 7.04 anyways [05:18] nyuk nyuk nyuk === HorD [n=HorD@unaffiliated/hord] has left #xubuntu ["#ubuntu-lat] [05:19] looks a lot nicer === NKUMike [n=lapemi@66.42.230.157] has left #xubuntu [] [05:44] phryde, whats wrong? === gerro [n=User@c-68-33-161-50.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:57] stevej: for /usr/NX/etc/node.cfg do you have EnableUnencryptedSession="0" set? You were giving details before about using that application so was curious [06:02] can your grep a column of a pipe? [06:05] nevermind === Llynix [n=Miranda@worldwind/developer/llynix] has joined #xubuntu === BFTD [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.108.87.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === Hexzenn [n=Hexzenn@dialup-4.233.200.235.Dial1.Manchester1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === Hexzenn [n=Hexzenn@dialup-4.233.200.235.Dial1.Manchester1.Level3.net] has left #xubuntu [] [07:10] xub xub yo! [07:10] where everybody at? [07:10] ? [07:10] Jester45: you get that piping working? [07:10] not sure [07:10] yea [07:11] well [07:11] what were you trying to do anyway [07:11] no but i got a work around === cliebow [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [07:12] i was trying to run somthing each time the clock got to 1 o clock [07:13] ah cron is good for that [07:13] yea... i cant get it to work [07:13] perhaps you disabled the system service your using? [07:13] i dont think so, tried on 2 machines [07:14] that 24 hour clock thing might be messing it up [07:14] doubt it though seeing as what time it is now [07:14] messing what up [07:15] the script uses date +%k [07:15] your timer [07:15] could you pm me the script? [07:15] if that = 01 then run wget http://site.com/backups [07:16] that equals 1 [07:16] no 0 before it [07:16] you sure [07:16] yes [07:16] k [07:17] now to get automated backups [07:18] if i wanted the output file name to be a variable shouldnt i use [07:19] /backups/'$var'.tar.gz [07:21] I wrote a python script that made backups for me [07:22] hello? [07:22] hi [07:22] maybe this /backups/$(var).tar.gz maybe? [07:22] sorry I put the / first and irc client recognized it as command [07:22] me to [07:22] wow [07:22] I updated my kernel [07:22] and I get a kernel panic [07:22] on the /backups/'$var'.tar.gz [07:23] yeah what difference between ' " ) I have no clue [07:23] all I know is they grope commands with money [07:23] whats ubuntu's kernel at [07:24] 2.6.16? [07:24] no! [07:24] 2.6.20-16 [07:24] 16 has lot of bugs [07:25] yea thats what i ment [07:25] 2.6.21.3 [07:25] what custom kerenl you use bftd? [07:25] what does bftd stand for anyway? big fried turkey dinner? [07:26] gerro its not, it was updated [07:26] BFTD, i didnt think you used custom kernels [07:27] I do [07:27] but it takes to long to compile on this laptop === Jester45 is compiling 2.6.22-rc7 for the 2nd time === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #xubuntu [07:36] Jester45 what steps do you go through to compile your kernel? [07:36] y [07:36] because I forgot how to [07:36] google... im reading on why to use a live dvd over a live cd [07:37] ok [07:38] they should make a livecd defalted onto a livedvd [07:38] so that its faster === neozen [n=neozen@c-67-176-183-86.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:48] looks like it isnt [07:48] i guess the cd drive is just to slow [07:48] DVD drives only go up to 16X [07:48] Cd drives can get up to 64X [07:51] its 72x now === rexbinary [n=rexbinar@unaffiliated/rexbinary] has joined #xubuntu === cliebow [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [08:03] BFTD, and also dvd 1x is 1.32mb/sec cd 1x is ~150kb/s [08:03] dvd1x == cd 9x [08:11] dvds are too expensive though [08:11] and large [08:14] hrm === varka [n=varkatop@p54A5D783.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === cliebow [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === Jester45 is now known as TheLurker === hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-93-168.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu === JohanSalim [i=G3b0ys@ip84-223.cbn.net.id] has joined #xubuntu === Chikubu [n=Chikubu@205.163.99.115] has joined #xubuntu [09:17] how can i see what (and maybe remove) the dameons that are starting with pc? === Starting logfile irclogs/xubuntu.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #xubuntu === Topic for #xubuntu: Official Xubuntu Support Channel | FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-users | Downloads: http://xubuntu.org/get === Topic (#xubuntu): set by Pumpernickel at Sun May 20 02:21:34 2007 === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #xubuntu === cliebow [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-93-168.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu === hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-93-168.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu === hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-93-168.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu === icecruncher [n=jon@adsl-pool-222.123.30-59.tttmaxnet.com] has joined #xubuntu === newuser00 [n=jose@10.59.103.87.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #xubuntu === pinoy1 [n=liway@124.104.23.0] has joined #xubuntu [11:44] hello... where could i find in a xubuntu notebook file system the icons for openoffice? i'm making panel items but can't find the openoffice icons... [11:45] noobest question... whats that small circle in the left corner of the title bar of the windows in xubuntu? [11:46] newuser00: i'm also curious about that "o" === hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-93-168.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu [11:48] pinoyl: :P [11:51] oh nos... nobody knows the answer O.O === newuser00 [n=jose@10.59.103.87.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #xubuntu [11:51] (GAIM crashed) === Xib [n=Xib@53551F62.cable.casema.nl] has joined #xubuntu === tsubasaleguedin [n=tsubasa@ABordeaux-256-1-159-238.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu === cliebow [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === tsubasaleguedin [n=tsubasa@ABordeaux-256-1-159-238.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu [12:14] whats the file browser for xubuntu? [12:17] thunar === demarco [n=demarco@adsl-156-110-180.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:18] tsubasalaguedin: thank you :) === gerro [n=User@c-68-33-161-50.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:19] where can i download xubuntu [12:20] is it possible in thunar to see the path to the folder your viewing as text and not as buttons? [12:20] http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/feisty/release/xubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso [12:20] demarco: what operating system you going to use to burn it though? [12:20] demarco: you want live or alternate version? [12:20] demarco: you can also use torrent [12:21] I am using sabayon right now [12:21] demarco: ah good just burn a bootable image then [12:21] its too heavy duty for my machine ...I need something light [12:22] xubuntu is a good choice [12:22] for installation the alternate cd is recommended [12:22] not recourse heavy [12:22] demarco: perhaps fluxbuntu or damnsmall? [12:22] xbuntu + compiz fusion [12:22] I think under 64mb the alternate install won't work either [12:22] tsubasaleguedin: who needs compiz/beryl.... [12:22] I don't know if network based install will work either with such low memory I have 60.5mb ram on one comp [12:23] hyper_ch: ring switcher dont have any challenger without compiz [12:23] 64mb ram is even for xubuntu very little [12:23] tsubasaleguedin: installed it once on an ancient notebook with 64mb ram... it was slooooooow [12:23] for sure [12:23] tsubasaleguedin: ring switcher? [12:23] demarco: try a distro with fluxbox or icewm as desktop manager and you should get good results [12:24] yep the multiwindow switcher [12:24] tsubasaleguedin: that is? [12:24] a multi windows switcher [12:24] thanks gerro [12:24] tsubasaleguedin: and that is? [12:25] try beryl and use your mouse at top right [12:25] demarco: how much ram and cpu you got? what processor? ram clockrate? [12:25] or compiz [12:25] tsubasaleguedin: why don't you just say what it is? [12:25] a say you [12:25] I [12:26] you can view all window for switch between it [12:26] a multi window switcher [12:26] tsubasaleguedin: still no clue what it is... but seems nothing I need [12:26] tsubasaleguedin: I wuv u [12:26] does xubuntu do like sabayon beryl === Dr`Maison [n=fred@62.147.164.174] has joined #xubuntu [12:27] demarco: xubuntu doesn't have beryl [12:27] demarco: you can set it up with beryl though [12:27] fully functional [12:27] might want to test out that compiz fusion though [12:27] i take a screen [12:27] ok [12:27] yes fully functional [12:28] what ..do apt-get install beryl ? [12:29] hyper_ch: is compiz fusion in the repositories? [12:29] http://www.hiboox.com/lang-fr/image.php?img=6hcg5k4g.png [12:29] you can see the windows switcher [12:29] demarco: yeah try apt-get beryl I guess [12:29] is a basical function of compiz/beryl [12:30] but very functional and ergonomic [12:30] demarco: but you really should read up on it like google around "beryl xubuntu" [12:30] demarco: you want a lite system so you can run beryl right? [12:30] beryl doesnt exist anymore [12:30] I will do that ...thanks guys [12:30] gerro: i ran a light system on a core2duo with 1gb [12:30] light system doesnt mean a weak system [12:31]