[12:14] <Sanne> SlimeyPete: good to know. I don't have any modern game right now, and only play on Linux, so it's still a very nice card for me.
[12:28] <visitante> name Misael
[12:28] <visitante> nob >_<"
[12:31] <rockets> hey whats wrong with a GF2
[12:31] <rockets> its at least as good as a GF4 MX
[12:33] <rockets> !ubotu hello!
[12:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hello! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:34] <vzduch> rockets: nothing wrong w/ a GF2
[12:36] <dr_willis> Amazing the power ya can get in a video card these days for so little $$$
[12:41] <daddydoc> anyone here?
[12:41] <vzduch> no
[12:41] <daddydoc> thanks
[12:42] <daddydoc> hey do you know how to switch to the ubuntu help channel?
[12:42] <vzduch> /join #ubuntu
[12:42] <daddydoc> thanks
[12:50] <goldfingermafia> dose anyone in here have experiance in kismet
[12:51] <goldfingermafia> anyone know how to set up suiduser?
[12:51] <goldfingermafia> i heed soem help in kismet on feisty
[12:53] <goldfingermafia> anyone in here?
[01:02] <dano> hey could anyone help me with my package managers?
[01:03] <azzco> dano: what's the problem?
[01:04] <DaSkreech> Use FedEx
[01:04] <dano> it says that a program is already running but afaik there is none and i have restarted the computer several times
[01:04] <azzco> is it adept?
[01:05] <dano> all the programs report a package manager running
[01:06] <vzduch> !aptfix
[01:06] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[01:06] <gan|y|med> hi
[01:07] <gan|y|med> apparently there was a ktorrent update but now the search function seems to have disappeared. can anybody enlighten me on this?
[01:08] <dano> woot thanks ubotu thhat worked :)
[01:08] <vzduch> gan|y|med: 'sudo aptitude update'; 'sudo aptitude upgrade'
[01:09] <gan|y|med> vzduch: why?
[01:09] <vzduch> gan|y|med: to install the upgrade
[01:10] <gan|y|med> i think there has already been one
[01:10] <vzduch> well, what's the problem then?
[01:11] <gan|y|med> that there is no search function in ktorrent any more. or at least i am too blind to find it
[01:11] <DaSkreech> gan|y|med: check the bottom corner I think it may be hidden
[01:11] <azzco> gan|y|med: It's a plguin
[01:12] <azzco> check in settings
[01:12] <Ryaren> Hi! I was trying to set up my TV-out and then when I restarted the X the monitor turned off (no signal) and I really don't know what is the problem.. PLS HELP ME! Here is the xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29051/plain/ and the xorg.0.log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29052/plain/
[01:12] <gan|y|med> thx a lot
[01:13] <azzco> np ;)
[01:13] <kubuntu> hello
[01:14] <Ryaren> sby can help me?
[01:14] <kubuntu> im looking for divx player for kubuntu
[01:15] <azzco> kubuntu: kaffeine works great with divx:s
[01:15] <kubuntu> no play my avi files
[01:15] <kubuntu> but i've install vlc player
[01:15] <kubuntu> n its work
[01:15] <Ryaren> Hi! I was trying to set up my TV-out and then when I restarted the X the monitor turned off (no signal) and I really don't know what is the problem.. PLS HELP ME! Here is the xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29051/plain/ and the xorg.0.log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29052/plain/
[01:15] <kubuntu> but i ned divx player
[01:16] <kubuntu> so i can play avi fils online
[01:16] <azzco> kaffeine doesn't work?
[01:16] <Ryaren> dr_willis u r genious! PLs help me if u r her! :)
[01:16] <kubuntu> www.joox.net
[01:16] <meuhlol> hi all
[01:16] <kubuntu> that website req divx player to watch avi fils online
[01:18] <vzduch> Macrosoft: no need to exit #ubuntu, you can be in multiple channels at a time
[01:18] <kubuntu> anyone plz?
[01:19] <meuhlol> Someone can help me please to restore my mbr? please!
[01:19] <meuhlol> urgent
[01:19] <vzduch> !divx | kubuntu
[01:19] <ubotu> kubuntu: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:20] <vzduch> !mbr | meuhlol
[01:20] <ubotu> meuhlol: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
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[01:21] <Lunar_Lamp> How do I find out what key is set to be my meta-key?
[01:21] <Lunar_Lamp> !meta
[01:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about meta - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:22] <DaSkreech> Lunar_Lamp: It's Alt unless you did something Kun-kay then it's the Windows Key
[01:22] <meuhlol> vzduch: how can i "revive" it please?
[01:22] <Lunar_Lamp> DaSkreech, I've not changed it, but in bash, alt doesn't appear to be functioning as meta :-/
[01:23] <meuhlol> I have 1 HDD of 120 gb, 1 giga for a swap and other for nux syst
[01:23] <DaSkreech> Lunar_Lamp: what are you trying?
[01:23] <Lunar_Lamp> DaSkreech, configuring inputrc to have shortcut keys etc.
[01:23] <DaSkreech> AH
[01:23] <meuhlol> vzduch: after with a QTParted i've resized my HDD (ext part) for 10Gb for windows part
[01:24] <meuhlol> vzduch: I created a Grub boot disket
[01:24] <meuhlol> vzduch: installed windows & his drivers, all works great
[01:25] <meuhlol> vzduch: now i want to return to my kubuntu... i insert disket in a floppy, boot and... Error 15: File Not Found
[01:25] <Macrosoft> vzduch: i installed ubuntu first, then installed KDE...would this have anything to do with my problem?
[01:26] <vzduch> meuhlol: read & follow the instructions
[01:26] <meuhlol> vzduch: what to do? i've try many things... with Live CD, with SDG... nothing work! always "Error 15: File Not Found" but... I need, really need, urgent(!) my Linux installation for a work
[01:26] <vzduch> Macrosoft: I wouldn't know why.. I guess you're just missing the codecs
[01:26] <kubuntu> does kubuntu has built in driver for graphic cards
[01:27] <vzduch> !nvidia
[01:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:27] <DaSkreech> Macrosoft: What problem?
[01:27] <kubuntu> i need it for s3 twister
[01:27] <DaSkreech> meuhlol: have you ever gotten it to boot?
[01:29] <meuhlol> never, before Windows kills my MBR :s
[01:31] <DaSkreech> meuhlol: but the file system is ok?
[01:33] <Super_Sunn> Anyone here play Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory on Linux?
[01:33] <DaSkreech> nalioth: Hi
[01:33] <HighHo> Super_Sunn: sometimes
[01:35] <ArtiFACT> gaahh.. anyone in here know much about XP ?  aside of the fact that microsoft is garbage?  and spy corporation of the world?  I kinda need a spot of help.... if someone would be so kind.
[01:35] <meuhlol> yes DaSkreech
[01:35] <DaSkreech> !windows | ArtiFACT
[01:35] <ubotu> ArtiFACT: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[01:35] <meuhlol> DaSkreech: how can I fix it please?
[01:36] <ArtiFACT> hahahahaha
[01:36] <ArtiFACT> that's great
[01:36] <DaSkreech> meuhlol: Then follow the post that ubotu sent you about recovering after windows
[01:36] <ArtiFACT> but I can't do that now
[01:36] <Macrosoft> "<vzduch>  Macrosoft: I wouldn't know why.. I guess you're just missing the codecs"...how would i get them?
[01:36] <DaSkreech> ArtiFACT: you got banned from ##windows ?
[01:36] <ArtiFACT> as soon as I get another hard drive... then I'll be able to move to linux
[01:36] <ArtiFACT> I've never been to ##windows.  I like it here better. hahaha.
[01:36] <ArtiFACT> I will go check them out.
[01:36] <ArtiFACT> I hate windows... I really do
[01:36] <ArtiFACT> :I
[01:37] <meuhlol> not good link :/
[01:37] <ArtiFACT> thank you daskreech :)
[01:37] <ArtiFACT> I didn't know there was one on this server... I rarely check the chan lists.
[01:37] <vzduch> !codecs | Macrosoft
[01:37] <ubotu> Macrosoft: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:38] <DaSkreech> !grub
[01:38] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:38] <erov> anyone having random timeout and random changing of the device name from sdc to sda etc.. swaps every other reboot ..issues since this libata/scsi emulation deal in the kernel went down?
[01:38] <DaSkreech> meuhlol: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows doesn't load for you?
[01:38] <ArtiFACT> ubotu is a good tool. :)
[01:39] <PhinnFort> I'm sure he appreciate being called a tool
[01:39] <DaSkreech> It's a she
[01:39] <DaSkreech> Or rather she's a she
[01:39] <slimg_> HighHo: How did you get the game isntalled?
[01:39] <DaSkreech> !women | DaSkreech
[01:40] <meuhlol> DaSkreech: already try, doesn't work :/
[01:40] <danya_>  E: Couldn't find package compizconfig-settings-manager
[01:40] <danya_> where can I get that package ?
[01:41] <PhinnFort> I thought apt (bot in #kde that calls herself she) and ubotu was married or something?
[01:41] <danya_> I've enetred the specific codes in my source list .. and I still get that error
[01:41] <HighHo> slimg_: If you have it installed and dont have a shortcut, if i remember correctly the command to run from a terminal is just "et"
[01:42] <DaSkreech> meuhlol: You reinstalled grub on the active partition ?
[01:42] <DaSkreech> PhinnFort: seriously? And I didn't get any kake?
[01:42] <DaSkreech> That's kinda slakk
[01:42] <PhinnFort> slack
[01:42] <PhinnFort> ;)
[01:42] <DaSkreech> No that's a distro :)
[01:42] <PhinnFort> :P
[01:43] <meuhlol> DaSkreech: how you want me to reinstall it from Live CD? If i can't mount my HDD :s
[01:45] <slimg_> HighHo: I've been having problems installing it. I'm trying to use the *.run file as an executable this time.
[01:45] <HighHo> slimg_:  make sure you have a full installer and not a patch
[01:46] <slimg_> I just ran into another problem. It says that I need write permission.
[01:46] <DaSkreech> meuhlol: Didn't see that you couldn't mount your hard drive Why can't you mount it?
[01:46] <Macrosoft> use su
[01:46] <DaSkreech> !sudo
[01:46] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:46] <Macrosoft> !su
[01:47] <Macrosoft> su and sudo do the same thing
[01:47] <slimg_> Macrosoft: I hear that isn't too intelligent. I read somewhere that you can install the game and then give it a "chmod 7777" option or something to let it do it's thing.
[01:48] <HighHo> slimg_: run the install using the sudo command, for example: sudo ./et-version.sh
[01:48] <meuhlol> DaSkreech: says hal-storage-media-fixed refused by uid 999
[01:49] <DaSkreech> Macrosoft: No
[01:49] <DaSkreech> meuhlol: sudoed?
[01:49] <meuhlol> yep
[01:49] <Macrosoft> ?... i didnt ask anything
[01:49] <DaSkreech> meuhlol: how did you mount?
[01:50] <DaSkreech> Macrosoft: You stated taat sudo and su do the same thing
[01:50] <meuhlol>  media:/ right click > mount
[01:50] <DaSkreech> they have the same outcome but do not do the same thing
[01:50] <DaSkreech> meuhlol: You could try it manually
[01:50] <meuhlol> ?
[01:50] <DaSkreech> mkdir Below && sudo mount /dev/devicename Below
[01:52] <meuhlol> DaSkreech: GG YEAH!!! thanx
[01:52] <DaSkreech> :)
[01:52] <mo0osah> How do I get rid of the Server List window while using beryl?
[01:52] <Ryaren> hi
[01:52] <meuhlol> DaSkreech: & how i can mmodify my grub manually?
[01:53] <DaSkreech> meuhlol: you have the page already :)
[01:53] <Ryaren> How can I check my graphic card's outputs?
[01:53] <Ryaren> !vivo
[01:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vivo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:53] <DaSkreech> meuhlol: you can edit the /boot/grub/menu.conf but if you have to ask you probably shoudln't
[01:54] <DaSkreech> Ryaren: Outputs?
[01:54] <Ryaren> yepp
[01:54] <DaSkreech> Ask in #ubuntu-effects ?
[01:54] <Ryaren> I have a dual head videocrad with vivo
[01:55] <Ryaren> I know that the two monitor outputs is CRT-0 and CRT-1
[01:55] <meuhlol> DaSkreech: please, what i need to modify to have /dev/sda1 linux ext2fs | /dev/sda2 windows fat | /dev/sda3 swap (nux) what i shall modify to have an good boot menu? please
[01:55] <Ryaren> but i don't know how can linux declarate my VIVO output
[01:55] <meuhlol> all in one grub?
[01:56] <slimg_> Check this out. When I look in 'System Settings' for my graphics card driver properties, I says that my driver is 'nvidia'. Why when I try to start the Enemy Territory, it says missing GLX or something...
[01:56] <DaSkreech> meuhlol: I'm confused. Grub doesn't care too much about the file system I think you are lokoing for fstab ?
[01:56] <DaSkreech> !fstab
[01:56] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[01:57] <meuhlol> no i just don't know how to have an GRUB with possibhility to choose beetween Windows XP & Linux, DaSkreech
[01:57] <sven> Hi there, Im trying to install nvidia drivers with kubuntu, using restricted-manager, but it seems to install wrong kernel modules.. the kernel module version and x module version differ, but I can not specify versions anywhere. How do I fix this?
[01:58] <tony__> i been having the same problem, after installing nvidia driver, i fail to boot to desktop
[01:58] <sven> meuhlol, I know from experience that a fedora install will automatically put your windows drive into grub already.. Dunno about Kubuntu yet though..
[01:58] <sven> tony__, Could you solve it?
[01:58] <tony__> no. im not good with linux.. i had to reinstall linux again
[01:59] <DaSkreech> meuhlol: Oh I see you are looking for the lines that say title in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:59] <sven> tony__, huuuuhh... Well, I know enough to put back the original xorg, and here I am again.. but I want the nvidia driver installed :( Anybody here who can help me to fix this problem?
[02:00] <tony__> no one was able to help , since i don't know much about command and stuff. but im sure there are people who can help you with it ..
[02:00] <Super_Sunn> tony_: Press 'ESC' during the boot up process to get to the 'Recovery Console', then type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" That will get you back to a GUI without having to reload the OS.
[02:01] <meuhlol> DaSkreech: yes! exactly! I have: /dev/sda1 linux ext2fs (all my data) || /dev/sda2 winXP partition || /dev/sda3 SWAP partition for nux
[02:01] <tony__> thanks. i will keep that in mind .. for the next time i do some bo bo with linux
[02:01] <Ryaren> Who use nvidia video cards with TwinView?
[02:01] <DaSkreech> meuhlol: Then something is wrong. the Menu,lst should not have an entry for Swap
[02:01] <DaSkreech> what does the title for that say?
[02:02] <meuhlol> DaSkreech: How can I modify & what file to modify to have good GRUB with choice of WinXP & Linux (kubuntu FF)
[02:02] <meuhlol> DaSkreech: I just told you what is my partitions are
[02:02] <sven> Ryaren, I have, long time ago.. its a bitch, but should be possible
[02:03] <DaSkreech> meuhlol: Right and I have told you to follow the instructions on the website now that the drive is loaded since you don't know what you are doing
[02:04] <meuhlol> DaSkreech: tell me what i need to do please, step by step
[02:04] <Ryaren> sven: can u help me to configure TwinView?
[02:04] <DaSkreech> meuhlol: Go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:05] <kr0wtinga> asd
[02:05] <DaSkreech> Follow the instructions under the first sub heading
[02:07] <sven> Ryaren, well, it was a LONG time ago, but I found all the data on the internet, using google.. I know its there, only don't remember where
[02:11] <intelikey> still can't boot the LTS system.
[02:11] <curso> Hola
[02:13] <intelikey> who knows about initramfs images ?
[02:13] <walter__> alguien habla espaol?
[02:13] <intelikey> !es
[02:13] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:13] <walter__> gracias
[02:16] <boggystudios> is there a way to install grub manualy on an existing installation with the kubuntu 6.06 cd?
[02:16] <Ryaren> Can I use my VIVO (video input/video output)video card on linux?
[02:16] <DaSkreech> !grub
[02:16] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:17] <Ryaren> to watch TV on the TV and use the computer on the monitor at same time
[02:18] <angasule> !remap
[02:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:18] <angasule> !keyboard
[02:18] <ubotu> To find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[02:18] <angasule> !Shortcuts
[02:19] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[02:22] <angasule> !xmodmap
[02:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xmodmap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:22] <altctrl> hello
[02:22] <curso> hello
[02:23] <altctrl> i just installed kubuntu less than 30 min ago
[02:24] <altctrl> now i  have a bunch of files saved in a external hardrive that has windows xp on it
[02:25] <altctrl> how can i reach them?
[02:25] <DaSkreech> altctrl: Welcome to Kubuntu
[02:26] <intelikey> anyone know how to unpack and repack an initramfs image file ?
[02:29] <vzduch> !ntfs | altctrl
[02:29] <ubotu> altctrl: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[02:29] <vzduch> as for an external drive: normally just plug in & have fun
[02:38] <droach> any one in here
[02:38] <angasule> nope
[02:38] <Minataku> Nope. All 330 of us are imaginary.
[02:38] <Minataku> We exist only in your IRC client.
[02:38] <droach> im sure .....
[02:38] <Minataku> In fact, you're not actually reading this.
[02:38] <adaptr> you just think you are !
[02:38] <intelikey> in fact you don't exist either
[02:39] <CWO4Mann> if i don't exist why do i have to pay income taxes?
[02:39] <adaptr> poof
[02:39] <DaSkreech> CWO4Mann: Cause you have diproved the other sure thing/
[02:39] <altctrl_> does anyone know where i can find the script diskmounter?
[02:39] <Minataku> But dumb answers to dumb questions aside, what's up?
[02:40] <CWO4Mann> :-)
[02:40] <droach> im looking for some kernel programmers...are there any in here or is today just like any other day in this channel with people asking weak questions like how to get the nvidia driver installed
[02:40] <Minataku> I don't think any kernel devs are in here
[02:40] <CWO4Mann> stifle your condescension
[02:40] <Minataku> Try ##linux
[02:40] <droach> whats the server name
[02:40] <CWO4Mann> the kernel were de-moted to sergeants
[02:41] <DaSkreech> droach: freenode
[02:42] <Super_Sunn> I still can't get the nVidia Driver isntalled.
[02:43] <adaptr> Super_Sunn in Feisty ?
[02:46] <Super_Sunn> Yes
[02:46] <Super_Sunn> adaptr: Yes
[02:47] <NickPresta> What I don't understand is, if Halo 2 (PC) doesn't require a DX10 card, why does it require Vista? *scratches head*
[02:47] <Super_Sunn> I've noticed that when there are new updates to Ubuntu, they mess a lot up.
[02:48] <Super_Sunn> I can't even install Java anymore from Add/Remove .
[02:48] <Minataku> NickPresta: Because Microsoft hoped that Halo 2 would sell Vista
[02:48] <Minataku> But Vista sucks so bad that nobody wants it
[02:49] <NickPresta> Minataku, I figured as much. I ended up installing Vista last night. I wasn't really surprised, but I wasn't really disappointed either.
[02:49] <Minataku> It's more economical to just buy a 360 to play Halo 2 and whatever else
[02:49] <Minataku> Vista is Microsoft's biggest mistake ever
[02:49] <NickPresta> Minataku, I already have a 360 and I'm a huge Halo 2 gamer on XBL. I figure I should try out Halo 2 on it (I want to try custom maps)
[02:49] <Minataku> They screwed up bad, and it's so great
[02:51] <DaSkreech> NickPresta: Almost certain it require DX10
[02:52] <Minataku> I don't think there are any DX10 cards
[02:52] <Minataku> Nobody gives a sh*t
[02:52] <DaSkreech> Minataku: Wrong and wrong :)
[03:02] <adaptr> GF 8800 is DX10
[03:03] <weedar> Okay, here's a weird question..The monitor/screen on one of my laptops died and I need to copy some files from it. I know the machine boots
[03:04] <weedar> I tried ssh but I get a connection refused. Is there some way I can "hack" my way into my own computer?
[03:05] <K-Ryan> Maybe a network thing
[03:05] <K-Ryan> It might be a little hard to do though, especially if you have to do stuff with the laptop
[03:05] <dr_willis> weedar,  could track down a live cd that allows ssh
[03:05] <dr_willis> Move the HD to another box may be better idea
[03:06] <dr_willis> or boot and blindly go to the console, and install ssh. :) or hook up an external monitor.
[03:06] <weedar> dr_willis: I just cant' seem to see where I can disconnect the harddrive
[03:06] <weedar> hey, that's it! I do have an external monitor
[03:06] <dr_willis> should have a normal ide conector. well laptop sized one.,
[03:07] <dr_willis> weedar,  :) tv out!
[03:07] <dr_willis> remove the HD.. mail the thing to Minataku
[03:11] <grul> hey, does anyone know of a good c64 emulator that will run on ubuntu
[03:11] <grul> ?
[03:11] <dr_willis> vice - but theres a bug in the package at this time
[03:11] <dr_willis> proberly should use the source for the moment.
[03:12] <dr_willis> Not sure when/if a updated package will appear. May allready be out/done
[03:16] <Minataku> Hey, now, wait
[03:16] <Minataku> dr_willis: What's going on?
[03:18] <Minataku> >.> <.<
[03:21] <Minataku> dr_willis: Speaking of, when are you gonna be able to mail those out?
[03:24] <intelikey> ok i think i've got it.     mv initramfs.img initramfs.img.gz ;gunzip initramfs.img.gz ;cpio -i < initramfs.img #do the needed editing here # rm initramfs.img ;cpio < * > initramfs.img ;gzip initramfs.img ;mv initramfs.img.gz initramfs.img   ### anyone see anything wrong with that ?
[03:24] <dr_willis> who knows.. :)
[03:24] <dr_willis> Been bbq'ing all day.
[03:24] <Minataku> dr_willis: Heehee
[03:25] <dr_willis> HOPEFULLY they will all get gone in the next week
[03:25] <Minataku> dr_willis: Still got guests... I guess you do XD
[03:25] <dr_willis> then it will take a week just to get the place cleaned up
[03:25] <Minataku> Heh
[03:25] <dr_willis> One of them did bring me some Junk PC's
[03:25] <dr_willis> got 1 working.
[03:25] <dr_willis> Pent 233MMX :)
[03:26] <dr_willis> other is an AMD K7-700 it seems to be dead.
[03:26] <dr_willis> so its going in the trash.
[03:26] <dr_willis> I got PuppyLinux working on the 233 box allready - it has a HUGE 232mb hd!
[03:27] <Minataku> Heh
[03:28] <Minataku> I stripped and junked my Ultra 1, it was deemed broken and rejected
[03:28] <Minataku> So now my Ultra 2 has 640MB of RAM and an extra HDD, 2GB
[03:28] <K-Ryan> Would anyone happen to have a PCMCIA card that they don't need anymore?
[03:32] <K-Ryan> I swear, always when I talk
[03:32] <K-Ryan> Either ubotu breaks or nobody talks
[03:33] <weedar> K-Ryan: either you've said that before or I just had deja vu
[03:33] <K-Ryan> I have said it before ;)
[03:33] <K-Ryan> I just needed to make it clear
[03:33] <weedar> dr_willis: I could use the tv_out, but then I'd still need other local access to turn on the tv-out function
[03:34] <weedar> Do NVIDIA cards still need that separate program to turn on tv-out?
[03:34] <weedar> K-Ryan: weird request by the way, just want ANY PCMCIA card no matter what kind it is?
[03:35] <sweettooth> hey there, does anyone know how to install realplayer for kubuntu? I have checked out the ubuntu guide, but even i added medibuntu to the repository and updated, it didn't seem to find the realplay package
[03:35] <Minataku> weedar: Typically changing the display is done with an Fn+xxx combination
[03:35] <dr_willis> weedar,  my nvidia cards default to the tv out when nothing else is hooked up.
[03:35] <K-Ryan> weedar: Yeah
[03:35] <dr_willis> weedar,  but thats on my dektop box's - not got a nvidia laptop
[03:35] <weedar> Minataku: Okay, I actually knew that - I guess I just assumed it wasn't that easy in linux =)
[03:36] <Minataku> weedar: Nope, that's all in hardware, the OS has nothing to do with it
[03:36] <weedar> dr_willis: this laptop has an nvidia card, but I can't find my S-VIDEO cable so I can't hook it up atm
[03:36] <K-Ryan> weedar: I'm probably going to have to buy one, but you know, it's worth a shot.
[03:36] <weedar> K-Ryan: what are you looking for?
[03:37] <K-Ryan> Well I bought a Dell Inspiron 7500 off someone, except it doesn't have a wireless card.
[03:37] <K-Ryan> So I need one, I'm new to the laptop market which doesn't help.
[03:37] <K-Ryan> But he said the one he uses works like a charm, so I might end up getting that.
[03:37] <weedar> you cuold always get a usb stick
[03:37] <K-Ryan> Yeah or that
[03:37] <weedar> what does he use?
[03:38] <Minataku> USB Wireless used to be very, very bad on Linux
[03:38] <weedar> dr_willis: in case you don't know - shared memory nvidia cards are pretty crappy =)
[03:38] <Minataku> From extremely poor to (most likely) no use
[03:38] <dr_willis> Not sure if its any better now..
[03:38] <Minataku> Neither do I
[03:38] <K-Ryan> He has a, believe it or not
[03:38] <weedar> Minataku: yeah, I had a belkin one I had to use ndiswrapper to get working. It did work though..
[03:38] <K-Ryan> Microsoft MN520
[03:38] <dr_willis> ya dont see as many usb-wireless gizmos these days..
[03:38] <Minataku> I have a built-in PCMCIA wireless card with an orinoco_cs chipset
[03:38] <Minataku> Belkin stuff sucks
[03:39] <Minataku> I think they use Broadcom sh*t
[03:39] <Minataku> Never buy a Belkin product
[03:39] <weedar> Well, wireless has become a basic piece of hardware, you can't buy a laptop nowadays without it
[03:39] <dr_willis> whagtever happened to bluetooth - it was supposed to be in everything also
[03:39] <K-Ryan> The laptop is from 99', 00'
[03:39] <Minataku> Mine is 2003
[03:39] <K-Ryan> dr_willis: It's the blue curse
[03:39] <K-Ryan> Blue tooth, blu ray
[03:39] <weedar> Minataku: yeah, I've had my share...two routers, among other stuff - actually using a belkin router now...It totally freaks out if let torrents run wild
[03:39] <K-Ryan> They just don't catch on
[03:40] <Minataku> Bluetooth is still alive
[03:40] <weedar> well, bluetooth is very short-range
[03:40] <dr_willis> PinklRay!
[03:40] <weedar> or, I've seen adapters that state they can handle up to 100m, but still
[03:40] <K-Ryan> Oh it's alive
[03:40] <Minataku> It's typically made for short-range, very specific purpose devices
[03:40] <K-Ryan> As is blu ray
[03:40] <K-Ryan> They're just not very succesful
[03:40] <Minataku> The XBox360 and Wii controllers use Bluetooth
[03:40] <K-Ryan> *successful
[03:41] <Minataku> And BluRay is a total dud
[03:41] <K-Ryan> Xbox360 controllers don't use bluetooth
[03:41] <dr_willis> I though the Wii used some sort of IR thing.. or was that for the motion sensing.
[03:41] <K-Ryan> I think
[03:41] <Minataku> The studios behind it are gonna have to drop out
[03:41] <Minataku> K-Ryan: They do
[03:41] <K-Ryan> Ohhh
[03:41] <Minataku> You have to sync them up and everything, very annoying process XD
[03:42] <sweettooth> can anyone please help?
[03:42] <K-Ryan> !ask
[03:42] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:42] <SlimG> What's the name of the KDE startup script file that's being executed when starting KDE?
[03:42] <sweettooth> repost
[03:42] <sweettooth> hey there, does anyone know how to install realplayer for kubuntu? I have checked out the ubuntu guide, but even i added medibuntu to the repository and updated, it didn't seem to find the realplay package
[03:42] <K-Ryan> !realplayer
[03:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:42] <K-Ryan> Hrmm
[03:43] <sweettooth> thank you K-Ryan
[03:43] <SlimG> sweettooth: I believe realplayer codec is provided by the w32codecs package, correct me anyone if i'm wrong
[03:43] <K-Ryan> Sorry I can't really help much more than that =/
[03:44] <sweettooth>  SlimG, I have already got the w32codec
[03:44] <weedar> I too thought the w32codecs had it
[03:45] <sweettooth> but it still says i didn't have anything to play in firefox, when i was trying to listen to BBC radio
[03:45] <weedar> sweettooth: tried reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods?action=show&redirect=RealPlayerInstallationMethods ?
[03:45] <sweettooth> would it be the configuration problem of firefox
[03:45] <SlimG> sweettooth: try running this to see if kaffeine detects w32codecs: kaffeine -w
[03:46] <weedar> At least that link shows you how you can download the actual realplayer from realnetworks
[03:46] <SlimG> What's the name of the KDE startup script file that's being executed when starting KDE?
[03:46] <sweettooth> SlimG, i have previously uninstalled Kaffeine and replaced by xine-ui
[03:47] <sweettooth> would that be the problem>
[03:47] <angasule> I can't find the language support program that used to be in edgy and dapper that let me install support for other languages, I only found an 'install language' button in the Settings->language section that is a retarded version of it
[03:47] <SlimG> sweettooth: Not sure if xine-ui takes advantage of the w32codecs package, atleast kaffeine should
[03:47] <sweettooth> weedar, not i haven't tried the canonical repository, but its for Dapper, can i use on feisty?
[03:48] <sweettooth> SlimG, ok, i will install back kaffeine first and see if it does
[03:48] <weedar> sweettooth: sure, first try adding the lines, but alter the part where it says dapper to feisty
[03:48] <weedar> if that doesn't work you can still use it with the dapper-part still in, you'll just be using dirt-old packages :)
[03:48] <SlimG> sweettooth: Any specific reason for using xine-ui instead of kaffeine? just wondering :)
[03:49] <weedar> SlimG: It's just a frontend, I guess it's just a matter of taste
[03:49] <sweettooth> SlimG, i used to have xine-ui installed when i was using Suse, thought it was quite nice and seem to have lots of configurations ;)
[03:50] <weedar> I've never used Kaffeine, but that's just because it was always broken when I ran Dapper or an earlier edition
[03:50] <FloydianOne> Can someone help me find "restricted device manager" in kubuntu feisty. I installed using apt. But dont know how to run
[03:50] <vit_> como se descargar msn para linux ubintu lix
[03:50] <vit_> plix
[03:50] <SlimG> sweettooth: ok :) fair enough
[03:50] <sweettooth> SlimG, btw, the kaffeine check went fine
[03:51] <CArlos> como
[03:51] <CArlos> se
[03:51] <angasule> why is kubuntu's language stuff more and more broken with each version? :(
[03:51] <SlimG> sweettooth: btw: you got the libxine-extracodecs package too? might come in handy if you don't
[03:51] <CArlos> what download msn for linux ubuntu
[03:51] <weedar> SlimG, when it comes to startup.script, this seems like a good link: http://docs.kde.org/userguide/kde-startup-sequence.html
[03:51] <CArlos> ??
[03:51] <angasule> CArlos: try kopete, or amsn
[03:52] <weedar> damn angasule, you beat me too it
[03:52] <CArlos> ok
[03:52] <angasule> weedar: the kopete thing or the brokenness of kubuntu wrt languages?
[03:52] <SlimG> weedar: thank you :)
[03:52] <CArlos> i need step download
[03:53] <weedar> angasule: the kopete thing, I didn't catch the brokenness before you mentioned it and I started reading back
[03:53] <sweettooth> SlimG, i have it installed already ;)
[03:53] <sweettooth> weedar, i will try your suggestion and add Canonical to my repository
[03:53] <weedar> sweettooth: ok, keep update on how it goes :)
[03:53] <CArlos> i need step download msn for linux ubuntu
[03:53] <FloydianOne> Where is Restricted Devices Manager, located?
[03:54] <SlimG> sweettooth: realplayer file didn't work on kaffeine?
[03:54] <weedar> CArlos: in a console window you can write "sudo apt-get install kopete amsn"
[03:55] <sweettooth> SlimG, that radio thingy is web-based, how do i know if kaffeine works with that?
[03:55] <CArlos> Do not I deal for which(whom) window you say to me?
[03:56] <SlimG> sweettooth: try downloading a realplayer file and test it with kaffeine
[03:58] <CArlos> Can you explain to me for which(whom) window you say to me?
[03:58] <Admiral_Chicago> FloydianOne: there isn't one for Kubuntu
[03:58] <Admiral_Chicago> FloydianOne: in Feisty anyways
[03:59] <FloydianOne> You cant even install one for it?
[03:59] <CArlos> I need to come out msn for linux ubuntu please answer
[03:59] <FloydianOne> i did a ap-get and it said it installed
[03:59] <emonkey> msn? use gaim, pidgin or kopete
[03:59] <emonkey> !gaim
[03:59] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[04:01] <verve> what's on the kubuntu dvd vs the cd?
[04:01] <FloydianOne> I am trying to install my nvidia drivers, and the kubuntu faq points to "restricted device manager"
[04:02] <weedar> CArlos: the real MSN program is not available for linux, but kopete and amsn lets you connect to msn - They are just different programs that do the same :)
[04:02] <Admiral_Chicago> FloydianOne: which FAQ
[04:02] <Admiral_Chicago> !nvidia
[04:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:03] <Admiral_Chicago> that is the link for you
[04:03] <FloydianOne> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[04:03] <FloydianOne> first line after 7.04
[04:05] <verve> anyone?
[04:05] <verve> dvd over cd?
[04:05] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm let me check
[04:06] <SlimG> verve: dvd installs correct language pack out-of-box and contains both alternate and desktop install
[04:08] <SlimG> verve: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=307060
[04:08] <angasule> the qt-language-selector program seems to be barely functional, while the gnome-language-selector has WAY more features, isn't that backwards?
[04:08] <sweettooth> SlimG, i have checked and kaffeine can indeed play the real media files
[04:09] <SlimG> sweettooth: thanks for checking, I've been wondering about the realplayer support for a while
[04:09] <verve> 2 more questions.. 1) will the dvd do WPA2 encryption with a Linksys PCMCIA card? 2) is there a way to save any configurations, like through Samba or something, or a usb drive?
[04:10] <SlimG> !who | verve
[04:10] <ubotu> verve: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[04:10] <Admiral_Chicago> FloydianOne: that really only applies to Ubuntu because the manager uses synaptic
[04:10] <sweettooth> weedar, i have tried canonical though unsuccessful, i have tried the alternative (installing the deb package) and now i can listen bbc radio perfectly, thanks for your help!
[04:10] <verve> my pc's the only one that plays WoW, and when the gf's playing it, i don't wanna be stuck on Windows
[04:10] <Admiral_Chicago> has synaptic as a dependency
[04:10] <verve> heh
[04:10] <sweettooth> SlimG, np at all, thanks for your help indeed
[04:10] <weedar> sweettooth: no problem, I'm just glad you got it working :)
[04:10] <namol> verve,  how do you expect a dvd drive to do some form of wireless encryption?
[04:11] <SlimG> verve: WPA encryption isn't related to the install medium
[04:11] <namol> verve, or did i miss something major
[04:11] <verve> ..
[04:11] <verve> in the livecd, will it do WPA2?
[04:11] <weedar> I think he wonders if the livecd supports wpa
[04:11] <SlimG> !wpa2 | verve
[04:11] <ubotu> verve: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:11] <weedar> like, does it have wpasupplicant
[04:11] <namol> ohhhh
[04:11] <verve> thanks weedar
[04:11] <verve> heh
[04:12] <namol> ok that makes more sense
[04:12] <weedar> verve: I believe it does have wpasupplicant, I'd worry more about having the drivers for your card
[04:13] <verve> i'm on my gf's laptop while she plays WoW on my Kubuntu PC, and the laptop runs Windows and i feel like i'm on an alien planet
[04:13] <verve> be nice to have a livecd i can pop in and use
[04:13] <verve> is my goal
[04:13] <namol> verve, what type of wireless does the laptop have?
[04:13] <verve> Linksys WPC54GSv2 PCMCIA card
[04:14] <SlimG> verve: see the URL from ubotu
[04:14] <weedar> verve: you should seriously consider just installing linux on a partition, or in vmware at least :)
[04:14] <weedar> running from cd is so slow
[04:14] <verve> i was just running Backtrack2 from it, it was pretty quick
[04:15] <verve> and it's not longterm anyway
[04:15] <namol> verve, how much memory does it have?
[04:15] <weedar> verve: what is Backtrack2?
[04:15] <namol> verve, if it has overa gig, you can use knoppix and load it into memory
[04:15] <verve> Linux security-oriented livecd
[04:15] <namol> weedar, backtrack2 is a security/forensics distro livecd
[04:15] <weedar> ah, ok :)
[04:15] <verve> namol, 512MB iirc
[04:16] <verve> yep
[04:16] <weedar> namol: so it has stuff like aircrack, john the ripper, etc?
[04:16] <namol> weedar, yup
[04:16] <namol> it used to be whoppix
[04:16] <namol> but it merged
[04:16] <namol> a few times
[04:17] <weedar> I have a strong desire to crack my neighbours wep key, just so I somehow can let him know he should use wpa instead
[04:17] <weedar> I really don't understand why they even ship routers with wep-support anymore
[04:18] <namol> weedar, your security is as strong as your weakest piece of equipment
[04:18] <verve> hm
[04:18] <weedar> namol: how could I not agree :)
[04:18] <verve> so it says that it requires the WinNT driver and ndiswrapper
[04:18] <namol> so if you have a device that can only do wep, that's why you get routers with wep
[04:18] <verve> which i'm guessing would be a big pain, if not impossible, to setup on the livecd
[04:18] <verve> boo
[04:19] <weedar> namol: but everything nowadays supports wep and wep has been documented as insafe for years
[04:19] <weedar> and I just saw there's an even faster wep-cracking method available which makes it even more unsafe
[04:19] <namol> verve, i'd put the driver on a usb stick and same with ndiswrapper
[04:19] <verve> i have a creative muvo mp3 player, which is a generic usb drive..
[04:19] <namol> weedar, if you're using wep alone to secure a wireless network then you should rethink your security :)
[04:20] <verve> 512MB
[04:20] <weedar> namol: exactly!
[04:20] <verve> WPA2 + MAC filtering + DHCP limiting
[04:20] <intelikey> lilo Q what is the /boot/map file and will deleting it have any affect on the system ?
[04:20] <namol> mac filtering is weak also
[04:20] <weedar> namol: I've tried telling my colleagues at work they should change to WAP, but nah, they can't be bothered.
[04:20] <verve> namol, by itself
[04:20] <weedar> I want to bring my laptop to work one day and hack it just to prove my point =)
[04:21] <verve> those all combined will keep out most people, and most of us don't have anything to hide to go to the trouble of cracking all that
[04:21] <weedar> verve: dhcp limiting?
[04:21] <namol> verve, by dhcp limiting do you mean restricting who gets ip addresses by reserving the ip for a mac?
[04:21] <intelikey> ?
[04:21] <verve> i limit the amount of IP addresses the DHCP on my router will give out to how many devices i have on my network
[04:21] <verve> and what namol said, as well
[04:22] <verve> so each device is given an IP through DHCP, but it's static, and MAC filtered, + WPA2
[04:22] <namol> i'm more malicious, if the mac doesn't match a known address, i assign a different ip address on a different subnet, then filter that subnet to see what they use it for
[04:23] <verve> namol, haha, nice
[04:23] <weedar> verve: I'd love to find a way to make my router give each mac adress a static ip, as it is now it screws up my port forwarding if stuff changes ip
[04:23] <namol> weedar, what type of router do you have?
[04:23] <namol> i have a linksys wrt54g
[04:23] <namol> flashed with dd-wrt
[04:23] <verve> weedar: i run Tomato on my WRT54G
[04:23] <weedar> namol: belkin :/
[04:24] <namol> some belkins can be flashed
[04:24] <namol> orrr
[04:24] <weedar> namol: newer firmware or custom one?
[04:24] <namol> what you could do
[04:24] <namol> custom ones
[04:24] <verve> namol, should give Tomato a try, i like it better than dd
[04:25] <namol> weedar, why not setup your own dhcp server, if a machine sends a dhcp request the router will usually allow it to be forwarded
[04:25] <namol> and that way you don't have the router handling the dhcp stuff
[04:28] <weedar> namol: I would if I could, the problem is that our apartment has no real bedroom, the'res just an open doorway from the living room to the bedroom. And the computers make too much noise
[04:29] <weedar> Or rather, my gf thinks they do, I love the comforting sound of computer fans :)
[04:29] <namol> lol
[04:29] <namol> weedar, so you don't leave your pcs on?
[04:30] <weedar> namol: not since we moved here, no. If I could hook them up to the internet I'd put them in the storage room we have
[04:31] <weedar> but then I'd have to pull the cable from the living room, through the kitchen, out from the entrance and through the hallway and into the room with the storage "locker"
[04:31] <namol> weedar, my condolences :)
[04:32] <namol> weedar, line of site wireless! :D
[04:32] <weedar> namol: actually, I do have a wireless router, all I really have to do is test it with one of the machines...
[04:32] <namol> :)
[04:32] <weedar> Hey, I tried downloading skype, but dpkg complains that it's wrong architecture - I have amd64 and the package is for i386 - is there a way to force install, I think it would still run
[04:36] <namol> weedar, http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/repositories.html
[04:37] <namol> i'd try that
[04:41] <thill2708> I'm finding that games that I run in linux are significantly slower than in windows... I have 3d accel all setup nicely, and no other programs running when I play, and yet I still get extremely choppy games
[04:41] <thill2708> any ideas?
[04:41] <namol> what type of graphic's card do you have?
[04:43] <thill2708> ati
[04:43] <namol> thill2708, any specific model number?
[04:44] <thill2708> mobility radeon x700
[04:44] <thill2708> I know it's not terribly powerful, but it works well under windows, with the settings of the game set low enough
[04:44] <weedar_> thanks namol
[04:45] <weedar_> thill2708: that's kinda odd, should play similar on linux...I remember when one of the Quake games came out in Linux it actually ran faster than in Windows =)
[04:45] <namol> weedar, no problem, did it work?
[04:46] <weedar_> haven't tried it yet, I have to ssh in to the laptop, my gf tok it so I'm stuck with the one now connect to an external monitor
[04:46] <thill2708> weedar_: Yup, I remember that too. It works in waves. I'll do half a minute ~70-90fps, then I'm down to ~10-15 for 15 sec, then back to normal
[04:47] <namol> thill2708, what drivers are you using for it?
[04:48] <thill2708> namol: fglrx
[04:48] <weedar_> Failed to fetch http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/dists/stable/non-free/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404 Not Found [IP: 198.63.211.251 80
[04:48] <weedar_> darn
[04:50] <namol> thill2708, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[04:51] <namol> thill2708, i'd try switching drivers
[04:51] <zander> hi all i am trying to setup and use the builder script but i get these errors for running " sudo ./gen-repo && ./do-update"...   i get... "
[04:51] <zander> + reprepro --noskipold -Vb /media/usbdisk/srv/gnewsense/tmlinux update
[04:51] <zander> Can not create directory "/media/usbdisk/srv/gnewsense/tmlinux/db": Permission denied
[04:51] <zander> There have been errors!
[04:51] <zander> af@inri:/media/usbdisk/Ubuntu/dists/dapper/universe/source/builder$
[04:52] <namol> zander, setup what
[04:53] <zander> i am trying to use the builder script and set up mybrand of linux distrobution...
[04:53] <namol> you're trying to make your own distro or you're trying to install kubuntu?
[04:53] <zander> the actual line i enter is " sudo ./gen-repo && ./do-update"...
[04:54] <zander> i am struggleing to follow the gnewsense instructions for ahhh... let me get the link...
[04:55] <weedar_> seems like gentoo, and we don't take kindly to gentoo-talkers around these parts
[04:55] <namol> lol
[04:55] <namol> #kubuntu != #gentoo
[04:55] <zander> okay...
[04:56] <namol> so you're compiling the kernel right?
[04:56] <zander> well ummm... i guess gentoo is gnewsense subset or something like that..
[04:56] <zander> i am trying to run the gnewsense builder script by bbrazil
[04:56] <namol> zander, make sure that you can read and write to the usb drive
[04:57] <dr_willis> the antiGentoo
[04:57] <dr_willis> !info gentoo
[04:57] <ubotu> gentoo: a fully GUI-configurable, two-pane X file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.55-1.1 (feisty), package size 764 kB, installed size 2432 kB
[04:57] <zander> ahh.. yes i have in the past
[04:57] <zander> the tree gets built down to ahhh... let me get that...
[04:57] <namol> zander, or what i would do is su - instead of sudo to verify that it is a permissions thing
[04:58] <zander> "/media/usbdisk/srv/gnewsense/tmlinux"
[04:59] <zander> so um... lets see the error squawk is...
[04:59] <zander> "Can not create directory "/media/usbdisk/srv/gnewsense/tmlinux/db": Permission denied"
[05:00] <zander> however as you can see i have created tmlinux under usbdisk
[05:00] <zander> perhaps it is more an ownership thang' then a permission thang'
[05:01] <zander> however the script created everything under usbdisk down to tmlinux
[05:01] <Minataku> wb, dr_willis
[05:02] <namol> zander, so you're making your own bootable usbkey distro or something?
[05:02] <zander> when it tries to create /db after .../gnewsense/tmlinux it craps out
[05:02] <zander> yes that right...
[05:03] <weedar_> zander: you're running the command as root, I assume?
[05:03] <zander> i think i have to change somethings in the builder script from mr. brazil at gnewsense...
[05:03] <zander> yes sudo to be exact...
[05:03] <dr_willis> Its scary when i cant even figure out the Print Photo's dialogs in Vista....
[05:03] <dr_willis> Its so easy.. unless its not doing what you want.
[05:03] <dr_willis> ended up copying the pic to a memory card and using the printers built in tools  heh.
[05:04] <zander> thants my new catchphrase...
[05:04] <dr_willis> Speaking of Which. IS there some nice idiot-friendly (for my wife)  that lets you select a few images, and make a sheet of Wallet sized prints?
[05:05] <zander> i likely need to meditate over the build script untill the zen seaps in...
[05:05] <zander> thats usually how my troubles get resolved...
[05:05] <namol> lol
[05:06] <zander> if you are here in this group then likely your app. services are implicit...
[05:07] <zander> just open the image and try to grab the edge like a "window" and then resize as usual...
[05:07] <zander> then hit ctrl-s...
[05:09] <zander> ahh yes the zen comes sort of like underwear underwear you wore too long...
[05:09] <zander> or just got commfiee in...
[05:11] <Minataku> So you're saying it comes to you like a shart
[05:11] <Minataku> You both see it coming and don't at the same time
[05:11] <Minataku> O.o
[05:11] <Minataku> XD
[05:11] <Minataku> Sorry, I just wanted a reason to use "shart"
[05:11] <namol> dude, we gotta go
[05:12] <namol> why?
[05:12] <namol> I just sharted.
[05:12] <zander> yes something like that... snicker snicker...
[05:12] <Minataku> lol
[05:12] <dr_willis> heh..
[05:13] <zander> usually engaged in some deep though... too busy for the small stuff..
[05:13] <NewUser-newbye> Alguem aqui fala portugues?
[05:13] <Minataku> !br
[05:13] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[05:13] <NewUser-newbye> sorry
[05:13] <NewUser-newbye> and thank's
[05:14] <zander> no ahablaa...
[05:14] <DaSkreech> grul: Sure
[05:16] <DaSkreech> sweettooth: I think it's under commercial
[05:27] <aa> how to type chinese in skim?
[05:28] <aa> it seems that it doesn't work
[05:29] <khaije1bb> !quanta
[05:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quanta - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:31] <khaije1bb> what is the closest thing to dreamweaver for linux? Any reccomendations?
[05:31] <nick_> nvu is good
[05:32] <khaije1bb> I don't think I've ever heard of that one
[05:33] <Minataku> Well, go find out about it then :D
[05:34] <nick_> I haven't used it a lot yet but it seems very compitent.  Check out the web site at www.nvu.com
[05:35] <nick_> I hear bluefish is good also but haven't used it yet at all
[05:35] <hitmanWilly> bluefish is just a text editor that supports language syntax
[05:35] <hitmanWilly> like vim
[05:35] <khaije1bb> don't like bluefish, I do not like them sam I am!
[05:36] <Minataku> Though if you ask me, the only thing one should use for a website is a text editor
[05:36] <DaSkreech> zander: ahablaa is problem ?
[05:36] <aa> Who's Chinese here?
[05:36] <DaSkreech> aa: Speak chinese well?
[05:36] <dr_willis> MooGooGaiPan!
[05:36] <dr_willis> :)
[05:36] <aa> I mean tye
[05:36] <dr_willis> Chicken LoMein!
[05:36] <DaSkreech> !cn
[05:36] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[05:37] <aa> type
[05:37] <DaSkreech> !ide
[05:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:37] <DaSkreech> !html
[05:37] <ubotu> html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem, and Nvu. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com
[05:37] <DaSkreech> khaije1bb: ^^^
[05:37] <aa> But i want to talk about kubuntu
[05:37] <DaSkreech> Minataku: That's silly
[05:38] <dr_willis> down with css and flash!
[05:39] <nick_> that's right, html only.  Keep it real.
[05:40] <flake> what's wrong with css
[05:40] <nick_> css got my sister pregnant, that punk
[05:41] <dr_willis> And it Killed my dog!
[05:41] <flake> lol
[05:41] <nick_> he's an all around bad guy
[05:42] <dr_willis> css created the Stinky Cheese Virus!
[05:43] <hitmanWilly> i dunno, for me he just seems to slow down my web browser all the time...
[05:43] <hitmanWilly> :P
[05:44] <dr_willis> thats just a diversion to the real damage!
[05:44] <dr_willis> deleting your Porn!
[05:44] <hitmanWilly> NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:45] <hitmanWilly> lol
[05:45] <DaSkreech> He doesn't do that!
[05:45] <DaSkreech> Umm I'll be back in a bit I have to go and check on somethign!! :)
[05:47] <crazy_bus> I converted a bunch of files to another format but the meta-data did copy over.  Is there a program when I can quickly copy the data over?
[05:48] <osiris> css causes global warming
[05:49] <Minataku> lol
[05:49] <aa> root can not login in kde?
[05:49] <osiris> why would you want to ?
[05:50] <hitmanWilly> aa: there is no root acct by default, you have to create one
[05:50] <dr_willis> aa,  direct logging to X as root. is disabled by KDM and GDM also.
[05:50] <dr_willis> so even if root had a password ya couldsnet do it. :)
[05:50] <aa> 'cause i don't want to switch to root
[05:51] <osiris> sudo
[05:51] <dr_willis> learn to use sudo, it can save4 your backside
[05:51] <osiris> learn it, live it, love it
[05:51] <DaSkreech> aa: sudo -i
[05:51] <dr_willis> running the filemamangers as root is a bad idea
[05:51] <aa> hehe
[05:51] <DaSkreech> dr_willis: seriously?
[05:51] <hitmanWilly> sometimes its handy, tho
[05:51] <dr_willis> DaSkreech,  someone was in here just today.. accidently 'moved' /etc/ somewhere...
[05:51] <hitmanWilly> oh, thats funny...
[05:51] <osiris> once in a while, sudo su is necessary
[05:51] <aa> now i am in single mode
[05:52] <DaSkreech> dr_willis: fstab might be useful
[05:52] <aa> i know,but lt looks some issues on my laptop
[05:52] <Minataku> The root account should only be used for system administration and maintenance tasks
[05:52] <Minataku> ONLY
[05:52] <sevenseeker> does anyone know how to get the nvidia driver working?
[05:52] <aa> see u soon ,i will switch to general mode of my kubuntu 7.04
[05:53] <flake> i have kubuntu as primary, would it be easy to set up a dual-boot LFS or red-hattish installation
[05:53] <hitmanWilly> sevenseeker: what's the problem?
[05:53] <hitmanWilly> flake: easier than with windows at least
[05:54] <DaSkreech> !nvidia | sevenseeker
[05:54] <ubotu> sevenseeker: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:54] <sevenseeker> hitmanWIlly: I used adept to install the nvidia-glx driver (new)
[05:54] <hitmanWilly> sevenseeker: ok, and?
[05:54] <DaSkreech> dr_willis: I recall Redhat turned everything red when you logged in GUI as root It was erally alarming
[05:54] <sevenseeker> but I can't get it to work, there is for example, no "nvidia" module to load
[05:54] <hitmanWilly> ?
[05:55] <hitmanWilly> sevenseeker: ok, lsmod | grep nvidia in a terminal
[05:55] <sevenseeker> there is a frame buffer module but no nvidia.o or nvidia.ko
[05:55] <osiris> now, i havent done this in kubuntu, but in mandriva, you got the kernel source, compliled the driver, and modified xorg.conf.
[05:55] <sevenseeker> its not there
[05:55] <osiris> it was not hard at all
[05:55] <osiris> is the process similar for ubuntu
[05:55] <hitmanWilly> sevenseeker: ok, in a terminal sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[05:56] <hitmanWilly> sevenseeker: see what that returns
[05:56] <sevenseeker> hmm, it said "1 not fully installed or removed."
[05:57] <sevenseeker> wait, missed a line, "nvidia-glx-new is already the newest version."
[05:57] <hitmanWilly> sevenseeker: try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:58] <sevenseeker> no output
[05:58] <hitmanWilly> ok, thats alright...
[05:58] <hitmanWilly> sevenseeker: what card are you using?
[05:58] <sevenseeker> geforce 6800 go
[05:59] <hitmanWilly> sevenseeker: ok, try removing the -new drivers and installing the regular nvidia-glx
[06:00] <hitmanWilly> the -new drivers really don't do anything extra for those cards
[06:01] <sevenseeker> hitmanWIlly: I installed the regular nvidia-glx package and still no nvidia module
[06:01] <hitmanWilly> sevenseeker: do you have the linux-restriced-modules package?
[06:01] <sevenseeker> how do I check?
[06:02] <hitmanWilly> sevenseeker: dpkg -l | grep linux-restricted
[06:03] <sevenseeker> hitmanWilly: looks like I do
[06:04] <nick_> whenever I have a video problem I tupe "dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" in a teeminal and it forces a reconfigure. see if nvidia is in the list and choose it if it is
[06:04] <nick_> *type
[06:04] <hitmanWilly> sevenseeker: ok, it may be the ones for an older kernel, try sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic
[06:04] <hitmanWilly> that's a meta that depends on the latsest ones
[06:05] <sevenseeker> it says it is already installed
[06:06] <hitmanWilly> sevenseeker: ok, do you have the linux-headers installed?
[06:06] <sevenseeker> hitmanWilly: yes
[06:07] <hitmanWilly> sevenseeker: ok, try this sudo apt-get -f install
[06:09] <hitmanWilly> sevenseeker: then try to reinstall nvidia-glx
[06:09] <holycow> hi guys
[06:09] <holycow> are there any kde4 preview packages available?
[06:09] <holycow> i'm on dapper right now so can't check but just curious
[06:10] <K`zan> Can someone tell me where to find libmp3lame.so ?  I just had a crash and had to reinstall from scratch and IIRC I need a special repository or program to get that ?!?  TIA!
[06:10] <K`zan> and/or
[06:10] <sevenseeker> I reinstalled, but no change
[06:11] <sevenseeker> hitmanWilly: Thanks for all of your help
[06:11] <sevenseeker> I have to run and will google some more tomorrow
[06:12] <DaSkreech> holycow: Si
[06:12] <holycow> cool!
[06:12] <holycow> danke :)
[06:14] <hx> yes
[06:15] <DaSkreech> holycow: The plan is to ship a Full KDE4 CD
[06:15] <DaSkreech> Unsupported :)
[06:16] <holycow> :) sweet
[06:16] <hx> who knows when kde 4.0 will be released
[06:16] <hitmanWilly> the developers, maybe :P
[06:17] <hx> other  distrs has roadmap,kde has not?
[06:17] <DaSkreech> KDe is not a distro
[06:17] <DaSkreech> It's a program
[06:17] <hx> yes
[06:18] <osiris> or a suite of apps for that matter
[06:18] <holycow> well kde doesn't have a time based release cycle if thats what you mean
[06:18] <hx> you are right
[06:18] <DaSkreech> It's a meta program :)
[06:18] <osiris> nice
[06:18] <holycow> mark has suggested that gnome, kde and oo.o start timing their releases
[06:18] <holycow> who knows, it might catch on
[06:18] <DaSkreech> hx: And if you want to know It's coming out Oct 23
[06:19] <holycow> yeah they do have a release date
[06:19] <hitmanWilly> supposedly...
[06:19] <Admiral_Chicago> around Oct 23rd
[06:19] <osiris> hey shoot for the 35th
[06:19] <osiris> er 25th
[06:19] <hitmanWilly> lol
[06:19] <osiris> be a nice birthday present
[06:19] <DaSkreech> I think that time based is interesting
[06:19] <DaSkreech>  I think syncing with Gnome is dumb
[06:19] <osiris> very
[06:19] <hx> these is the first time that i use kde,i like it
[06:19] <DaSkreech> hx: Welcome
[06:20] <hitmanWilly> personnally, i don't like it, puts too much strain on the devs and can lead to unfinished, buggy releases
[06:20] <holycow> i don't think synching with gnome is irrational
[06:20] <osiris> hx,  im assuming english is not your first language
[06:20] <holycow> it makes sense from a cross platform basis
[06:20] <osiris> gnome is notoriously slow in the devel process
[06:20] <hx> yes,I am from China,:)
[06:20] <DaSkreech> hitmanWilly: Strain?
[06:21] <hitmanWilly> well, pressure, might be a better word
[06:21] <DaSkreech> osiris: that has nothing to do with anything
[06:21] <holycow> yeah gnome is
[06:21] <DaSkreech> We dont care how slow they develop or beuracrat
[06:21] <holycow> i think gnome and kde teams should merge, now that the licencing issues behind qt are gone there is little reason not to collaborate further beyond say re-using each others technologies
[06:21] <DaSkreech> We just care when they relelase is the suggestion
[06:21] <Admiral_Chicago> !offtopic
[06:21] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[06:21] <osiris> it does when you are talking of synching releases.  who wants to  wait around for gnome to catch up
[06:22] <DaSkreech> holycow: Awwww you are new :)
[06:22] <holycow> actually i'm not
[06:22] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: I could swing it to a kubutu topic if you like
[06:22] <hx> i have used gnome for several years, it is easy, but blocked  a lot settings
[06:22] <hitmanWilly> wow, that'll happen
[06:22] <tripppy> is it easy enuff to make ubtunu 7.04 to knoppix 7.04?
[06:22] <Admiral_Chicago> DaSkreech: if its a kubuntu support topic, that shoul work
[06:22] <holycow> i didn't say it will happen, i just think it makes sense
[06:22] <osiris> Admiral_Chicago, i could swing a kubuntu titled bat at you if you were in arms reach
[06:22] <holycow> both teams have some REALLY REALLY good ideas
[06:23] <hitmanWilly> tripppy: no, that requires a complete reinstall, completely different setups
[06:23] <holycow> and both teams complement each other very well overall
[06:23] <holycow> gnome really understands user profiling (although incomplete in terms of application of multiple hig's)
[06:23] <holycow> kde really has the development speed and better framework
[06:23] <hx> :)
[06:24] <holycow> lots really great talent and cool people on both teams with a lot of great ideas to boot
[06:24] <hx> i do think someone like gnome,while others like kde ,:)
[06:24] <hitmanWilly> well, xfce seems to be headed in the general direction of gnome, maybe that would be a more practical approach for that type of thing
[06:24] <holycow> well gnomes big thing is useability
[06:24] <osiris> e17 ftw
[06:25] <holycow> which at the end of the day really is useability for a single demographic
[06:25] <hitmanWilly> windowmaker ftw
[06:25] <holycow> which strangely kde hasn't bothered with but they invented a framework to handle that with kiosk
[06:25] <osiris> windowmaker is very nice as well
[06:25] <osiris> my 2nd fav
[06:25] <holycow> so if you put the two together, you take gnome hig, make multiple hig's for different user profiles and create kiosk profiles based on that
[06:25] <holycow> and voila, all of a sudden you have a happy secretary and a happy linus
[06:26] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: So if KDE switches to a time based release Should Kubuntu move to sync with that instead of Ubuntu  and switch it's LTS support schedules as well?
[06:26] <DaSkreech> tripppy: can you define Knoppix 7.04?
[06:26] <tripppy> wooops
[06:26] <holycow> DaSkreech, considering ubuntu bases its time release on gnomes release cycle kubuntu has no choice but to do it to kdes release cycle
[06:26] <hitmanWilly> DaSkreech: tht's probably not practical
[06:26] <tripppy> is it easy enuff to make ubtunu 7.04 to kubuntu 7.04?
[06:26] <DaSkreech> hitmanWilly: Why not?
[06:27] <Admiral_Chicago> DaSkreech: the LTS is really for main and universe repos which includes Xfce and firefox et
[06:27] <DaSkreech> tripppy: yes
[06:27] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: will those repos be pull down after the LTS time period i up?
[06:27] <tripppy> DaSkreech, kewl, ill go and google it now. find a good howto guide
[06:27] <Admiral_Chicago> the point if time based release is really to promote teh latest and greates.
[06:28] <Admiral_Chicago> DaSkreech: no, the main - security repo will be
[06:28] <DaSkreech> tripppy: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:28] <DaSkreech> tripppy: Let me save you some bandwidth
[06:28] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: So it doesn't really matter then
[06:28] <DaSkreech> We can have a time shifted Kubuntu release with time shifted support
[06:28] <Admiral_Chicago> if you look in your /etc/apt/sources.list, you'll see a repo for security releases, thats in dapper and feisty and edgy
[06:28] <holycow> the point of time based releases is to maintain certainty and allow developers easier devellopment cycles
[06:28] <tripppy> DaSkreech, cheers. trying to install linuxmce beta!
[06:29] <DaSkreech> When the time comes to stop supporting them we just will
[06:29] <holycow> otherwise you are just herding cats
[06:29] <Admiral_Chicago> but warty and hoarty, those don't get updated
[06:29] <DaSkreech> tripppy: Me too! :)
[06:29] <DaSkreech> Understood
[06:29] <DaSkreech> I'm just saying does it make more sense for Kubutu to sync with KDe than with Ubuntu
[06:29] <Admiral_Chicago> DaSkreech: as well as bugs seen only in hoary breezy etc
[06:29] <Admiral_Chicago> DaSkreech: basically
[06:30] <Admiral_Chicago> DaSkreech: Kubuntu is really *buntu + KDE
[06:30] <osiris> i dont have time for the bleeding edge devel distros anymore.  i need working systems that are patched in a timely fashion.  kde4 wont be "production" ready for some time by my guess
[06:30] <hitmanWilly> DaSkreech: well, kubuntu is basically just regular ubuntu with kde, so all the updates and such that ubuntu users get would be WAY out of sync with kubuntu, especially if it gets the two year support schedule out of sync, or what if kde releases before ubuntu? About the only way I see it being practical is if kubuntu starts maintaining its own repos and becomes a true fork of ubuntu, but that's just imho.
[06:30] <holycow> ah yes okay that makes sense
[06:30] <Admiral_Chicago> ubuntu is *buntu + GNOME
[06:31] <Admiral_Chicago> hitmanWilly: that is the trade off of using newer releases. Newer code but that doesn't mean most stable
[06:31] <DaSkreech> osiris: don't worry probably won't be shippin with KDE4 for about three releases
[06:32] <hitmanWilly> now, if they want to keep just the newest kde releases in their own repoor some such thing, i could see that.
[06:32] <MarcC> how do I change my hostname in kubuntu?
[06:32] <Admiral_Chicago> hitmanWilly: if you switch the words KDE for GNOME and GNOME for KDE, you are making the same argument
[06:32] <DaSkreech> hitmanWilly: We do that already
[06:32] <Admiral_Chicago> MarcC: edit /etc/hostname
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: Yay You see my point ! :)
[06:33] <MarcC> Admiral_Chicago: is this safe and do I need to restart the network for it to take effect?
[06:33] <Admiral_Chicago> you'll need to do something like kdesu kate /etc/hostname
[06:33] <Admiral_Chicago> MarcC: restart your computer
[06:33] <MarcC> ha, that's exactly what I did :)
[06:33] <hitmanWilly> like I said, this is the problems one runs into with being a halfway fork.
[06:33] <MarcC> Admiral_Chicago: thanks, I changed it...will restart l8r
[06:33] <hitmanWilly> anyway, back on topic...
[06:34] <DaSkreech> hitmanWilly: Yeah but it's sabdfl who suggested it! :)
[06:34] <tripppy> DaSkreech, its asking me what display manager to use. kde?
[06:34] <DaSkreech> tripppy: which ever you like You can switch later if you want
[06:34] <Admiral_Chicago> MarcC: fyi, the files in /etc/ are all read at boot only (by default) like fstab
[06:34] <DaSkreech> KDM is nice cause it feels more unified than GDM
[06:34] <Admiral_Chicago> tripppy: kdm
[06:34] <DaSkreech>  GDM probably has nicer themes from what I've seen
[06:34] <osiris> or on restart of the service
[06:35] <Admiral_Chicago> MarcC: or as osiris by the restart of the server (ssh for example)
[06:35] <holycow> DaSkreech, yeah thats what i read ... with the next or the one after being lts it will haveto skip shipping kde4 final
[06:35] <hitmanWilly> well, kdm suns suid root IIRC (i could be wrong since i use console login)
[06:35] <hitmanWilly> runs*
[06:35] <MarcC> Admiral_Chicago: thanks, what is osiris?
[06:35] <osiris> me
[06:35] <MarcC> lol
[06:36] <Admiral_Chicago> an egyptian god
[06:36] <osiris> the egyptian lord of the dead
[06:36] <MarcC> rofl
[06:36] <MarcC> roaf ul
[06:36] <osiris> read your mythology
[06:36] <osiris> ;)
[06:37] <MarcC> thanks...actually I am an archaeologist
[06:37] <MarcC> I'm sitting in Egypt right now
[06:37] <MarcC> it's hot
[06:37] <osiris> and i do tech support for a voip company.  not very fitting a god and al, but........
[06:37] <MarcC> I'm using Kubuntu via VNC from an OLPC that was lent to me by a local schoolboy
[06:38] <osiris> which means he does
[06:38] <hitmanWilly> no, for real
[06:38] <osiris> if he didnt, (really) he wouldnt elude to it
[06:38] <osiris> psychology is phun
[06:38] <DaSkreech> holycow: yeah
[06:39] <hitmanWilly> osiris: stop that, my brain hurts :P
[06:39] <osiris> k
[06:39] <holycow> MarcC, pretty cool!
[06:39] <holycow> one of those colourfull olpc dealies?
[06:39] <osiris> just remember, your dead soul belongs to me.  ;)
[06:39] <hitmanWilly> lol
[06:39] <osiris> you can keep the brain
[06:40] <hitmanWilly> at least the lord of the dead runs linux...:P
[06:40] <DaSkreech> In a jar
[06:40] <DaSkreech> over there
[06:40] <DaSkreech> By your servants
[06:40] <DaSkreech> who don't talk to you about your job
[06:40] <DaSkreech> EVER
[06:40] <MarcC> holycow: yeah...we're trying to get my Kubuntu box at home in California to sync with a server at our base camp about 10KM from here...the server is locked up and guarded, lol
[06:41] <holycow> MarcC, :)
[06:41] <holycow> bbl
[06:41] <MarcC> dang, mohammad left...that's a bad omen
[06:42] <hitmanWilly> lol
[06:42] <hitmanWilly> MarcC: just send in your small asian kid first :P
[06:43] <hitmanWilly> ok, that was bad...
[06:44] <MarcC> hitmanWilly: our small asian kid is a hacker in ulan-bataar
[06:44] <hitmanWilly> oh well, it was worth a shot :)
[06:44] <osiris> i could social my way in
[06:45] <DaSkreech> osiris: social +3?
[06:45] <MarcC> osiris: to where?
[06:45] <osiris> where everthis "guarded server" is
[06:45] <DaSkreech> social -6 by being a theriomorphic deadhead
[06:45] <MarcC> oh, it's not guarded by humans, it's guarded by mummies of some sort, lol
[06:45] <MarcC> the locals won't take us there
[06:46] <MarcC> we borrowed a UAZ for a quick trip and a police constable told us he would shoot out our tires because it's the wrong time of year
[06:46] <hitmanWilly> 'Indiana Jones and The Curse of the Opteron' :P
[06:47] <osiris> lmao
[06:47] <ADiCT3D> i have a weird problem, Every other line in the people list is black and kde thing started and changed EVERYTHING how do i get it back?
[06:47] <MarcC> ok sorry, I really need to turn off this indiana jones DVD
[06:48] <osiris> BTW, everyone go see the new die hard flick
[06:48] <hitmanWilly> oh wow, a real problem...
[06:48] <osiris> friggin awesome if yer a net nerd
[06:48] <MarcC> ADiCT3D: what's the people list
[06:48] <ADiCT3D> MarcC in konversation
[06:48] <MarcC> osiris: really? it looked kinda corny in the commericals
[06:49] <Bumblebee> aww
[06:49] <ADiCT3D> MarcC the people in this room >>>
[06:49] <MarcC> ADiCT3D:  what's the KDE thing that started
[06:49] <osiris> MarcC, may i pm.  keep it outta here ?
[06:49] <Daisuke_Ido> :(
[06:49] <MarcC> osiris: go ahead
[06:49] <hitmanWilly> nick transformer i see...
[06:49] <ADiCT3D> MarcC its the config utility what do you want kde to act like...performance...etc..and it changed my theme added a ton of sounds to apps closing and opening..etc
[06:50] <hitmanWilly> Daisuke_Ido: you need that cool sound effect to go with it :P
[06:50] <MarcC> ADiCT3D: can you change the theme back?
[06:51] <Daisuke_Ido> heh
[06:51] <ADiCT3D> MarcC no its the same "theme" the plastik but the colors have changed
[06:51] <Daisuke_Ido> finally saw the movie.  needless to say, my childhood memories are safe.
[06:51] <hitmanWilly> i was worried about that...
[06:52] <MarcC> ADiCT3D: well, you can change the colors in a theme by going to "colors" and clicking on the parts you want changed...or download a new color theme from kde-look.org
[06:52] <ADiCT3D> MarcC Okay thats no big deal but the list of people and the sounds are quite annoying
[06:53] <MarcC> ADiCT3D: yeah, changing colors should fix the list...as for sounds, those are easy to disable in system settings
[06:53] <ADiCT3D> MarC Where do i disable them? I can disable for certain apps but not everything eg normal apps..
[06:53] <ADiCT3D> ^^ That made no sense
[06:54] <MarcC> ADiCT3D: what app are the sounds coming from?
[06:54] <ADiCT3D> MarC every app closing and so on but i want to change it to every app and in the kcontrol it only allows for a few KDE apps to disable sound for them..
[06:55] <Daisuke_Ido> hitmanWilly: there are so many inside references that kids seeing it (that have never seen the cartoon) won't get at all
[06:55] <ADiCT3D> MarcC every app closing and so on but i want to change it to every app and in the kcontrol it only allows for a few KDE apps to disable sound for them..
[06:55] <hitmanWilly> ok, that settles it, im going to see it
[06:55] <MarcC> ADiCT3D: system settings -> notifications -> turn off all sounds
[06:56] <ADiCT3D> Again...There is no option for all apps only listed ones..
[06:57] <MarcC> sure, just check the box
[06:57] <MarcC> "apply to all  applications"
[06:57] <ADiCT3D> ok ty i guess
[06:58] <MarcC> np I guess
[06:59] <ADiCT3D> So now what do i do to fix the list of pplz?
[07:00] <Daisuke_Ido> fix it?  what's wrong with it?
[07:01] <ADiCT3D> Daisuke_ldo every other name is black
[07:01] <Daisuke_Ido> i can see that being a bit of a problem
[07:01] <Daisuke_Ido> might i recommend changing your theme
[07:01] <ADiCT3D> No..
[07:01] <Daisuke_Ido> or at least customizing it a little
[07:01] <MarcC> ADiCT3D: Settings -> Configure Konversation -> Colors -> Alternate background
[07:01] <ADiCT3D> Daisuke_ldo ive changed kde theme
[07:02] <Daisuke_Ido> ah
[07:02] <ADiCT3D> kk ill try that
[07:02] <Daisuke_Ido> then go with MarcC's suggestion :)
[07:02] <MarcC> i guess
[07:03] <ADiCT3D> MarcC Done that and it doesnt fix it
[07:03] <MarcC> ADiCT3D: screenshot or I don't believe it
[07:03] <ADiCT3D> ok
[07:04] <MarcC> also tell me the name of the capital of mongolia
[07:04] <MarcC> ...just to see if you're human
[07:04] <ADiCT3D> uploading
[07:04] <ADiCT3D> http://romudog.googlepages.com/snapshot9.png
[07:05] <MarcC> whoa
[07:05] <ADiCT3D> http://romudog.googlepages.com/snapshot10.png
[07:05] <MarcC> that doesn't seem like a theme problem...what theme would have such an ugly alternate color
[07:05] <mneptok> MarcC: Ulaan Baator
[07:05] <ADiCT3D> to prove bg color
[07:06] <MarcC> nice job...and welcome, human
[07:06] <ADiCT3D> MarcC now..
[07:06] <ADiCT3D> Can you help me?? :P
[07:06] <MarcC> ADiCT3D: show me your color for "alternate background in lists" under "colors" in system settings -> appearance
[07:06] <MarcC> (this is in the "widget color" area)
[07:06] <ADiCT3D> its in snapshot10
[07:07] <ADiCT3D> http://romudog.googlepages.com/snapshot10.png
[07:07] <MarcC> ADiCT3D: no, it's different - read what I said again
[07:07] <MarcC> this is in Kubuntu system settings
[07:08] <mneptok> MarcC: you might not want to assert my "humaness" in front of Ubunteros. they ... know better ... ;)
[07:08] <ADiCT3D> Ha!
[07:08] <MarcC> mneptok: well, I'm a bot so I have to check, it's my job
[07:08] <hitmanWilly> ADiCT3D: btw, whats that system monitor app you've got there, that rocks :)
[07:09] <ADiCT3D> yeah it does
[07:09] <MarcC> and what happens if you don't hit that big green checkmark every 1 hour and 8 minutes?
[07:09] <ADiCT3D> huh?
[07:09] <MarcC> ADiCT3D: the one under the system monitor
[07:09] <ADiCT3D> its a countdown timer for fooood :F
[07:09] <ADiCT3D> :D
[07:10] <MarcC> lol, is it in the microwave for 10 hours or something?
[07:10] <ADiCT3D> So i can squeeze in another few mins while stuff is in oven
[07:10] <ADiCT3D> 10 mins..
[07:10] <MarcC> oven?
[07:10] <ADiCT3D> brb
[07:10] <MarcC> where do you live where you can turn on an oven? australia?
[07:11] <ADiCT3D> ok
[07:11] <ADiCT3D> window fixed
[07:11] <ADiCT3D> i think im gunna live with sounds coz i like them..it makes me feel welcomed :P
[07:11] <MarcC> i like all the sounds except for that crashing glass one, it gives me a nervous tick
[07:11] <ADiCT3D> lmfao
[07:11] <ADiCT3D> Mar
[07:12] <ADiCT3D> MarcC: Thanks man appreciate the help!
[07:12] <MarcC> ADiCT3D: drive thru plz
[07:12] <ADiCT3D> To all other Daisuke, Thanks guys!
[07:12] <ADiCT3D> Anyone yet mastered mencoder?
[07:12] <ADiCT3D> lol
[07:12] <MarcC> mencoder...that's the one
[07:13] <MarcC> I was thinking of the other...um...strange-sounding app besides "manslide"
[07:13] <ADiCT3D> that is so hard to use
[07:13] <ADiCT3D> emacs is easier imo
[07:13] <MarcC> I like the little service menus for that stuff
[07:13] <MarcC> I thought there was one for video
[07:13] <ADiCT3D> mplayer
[07:13] <theurs> smplayer
[07:14] <MarcC> xD
[07:14] <theurs> front end for mplayer
[07:14] <ADiCT3D> kmplayer too
[07:14] <ADiCT3D> kaffeine sucks :P
[07:14] <ADiCT3D> VLC ftw
[07:14] <MarcC> kmplayer is cool especially if you like rolls of film or icons that look like them
[07:14] <ADiCT3D> lol
[07:15] <MarcC> or stars
[07:15] <ADiCT3D> Anyone need a cool Conversion Table in a spreadsheet?
[07:15] <ADiCT3D> I have a gd one someone may want
[07:16] <MarcC> ADiCT3D: ever been to liveleak.com?
[07:16] <ADiCT3D> and metacafe and break and clipaday and digg and every other video site collegehumor lol many more and yes..
[07:16] <MarcC> cuz your desktop says so, right next to that conversion table file
[07:17] <MarcC> ;)
[07:17] <ADiCT3D> yeah yeah
[07:17] <ADiCT3D> converting em to avi
[07:17] <draik> !beryl
[07:17] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:17] <MarcC> ADiCT3D: what is that vob file?
[07:17] <MarcC> !offtopic
[07:17] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:18] <ADiCT3D> MarcC its from my sony handycam
[07:18] <MarcC> cool, well you seem like a nice chap - see you later
[07:18] <ADiCT3D> u 2
[07:28] <draik> Is there a way to add a wallpaper to a specific desktop (1-4)?
[07:30] <CrunchyFerrett> salud
[07:33] <raheem> hello everyone
[07:47] <hero> draik: yes.  still there?
[07:47] <draik> hero: Still here. How?
[07:48] <hero> right click on desktop
[07:48] <hero> configure desktop
[07:48] <hero> in the background pane, you can set wallpaper for individual desktops
[07:50] <juegos> hi i need the file glibc
[07:50] <juegos> but i can find
[07:52] <draik> hero: Sweet. Thank you much
[07:52] <hero> my pleasure
[07:52] <hitmanWilly> juegos: try sudo apt-get install libc6
[07:55] <juegos> but here is libnsl.so.1
[07:56] <draik> hero: Hmm... well, I changed them, but since I'm using Beryl, I don't think it applied it all
[07:56] <hero> yeah
[07:56] <hero> you're in a kde-type chan
[07:56] <hero> try #beryl
[07:56] <draik> I did, no luck
[07:58] <neptunepink> I'm trying to compile kqemu... but on ./configure, I get "Could not find kernel includes in /lib/modules or /usr/src/linux". I installed linux-headers-2.6.15-28 ...
[07:59] <neptunepink> Is there a link I should do?
[08:04] <dsmith> whats is the linux version of windows cmd, ipconfig /release and ipconfig /renew??
[08:04] <dsmith> I know ifconfig something
[08:06] <kamui> ifconfig doesn't have dhcp built in
[08:07] <kamui> you'll need a dhcp client, like dhclient installed
[08:07] <kamui> then you can use dhclient device to renew your ip
[08:07] <kamui> ifconfig is for manual interface configuration only afaik
[08:08] <Admiral_Chicago> dhclient is installed by defauly
[08:08] <dsmith> hmmm ok
[08:08] <Admiral_Chicago> you want ifconfig eth0 up
[08:08] <Admiral_Chicago> ifconfig eth0 down
[08:08] <dsmith> i could not find any reference on how to do so in like 4 manuals, that would exlain why
[08:08] <dsmith> its a sep. pkg
[08:08] <hitmanWilly> probably /etc/init.d/dhcp restart or something
[08:08] <Admiral_Chicago> yea, you can do sudo dhclient <interface> to grab a new IP address
[08:09] <dsmith> Admiral_Chicago: that sounds right
[08:09] <dsmith> just up and down
[08:09] <dsmith> I had a slight issue with an older Netgear router
[08:09] <dsmith> and couldnot renwe the IP addy
[08:10] <dsmith> so now I know
[08:10] <juegos> ld-linux.so.2???
[08:11] <dsmith> ifconfig cmd with eth0 up/down works fine for what I need
[08:11] <dsmith> thanks
[08:13] <shawnr> Howdy
[08:14] <shawnr> Just installed Kubuntu Tribe2(just testing)
[08:15] <dsmith> Gutsy?
[08:15] <Admiral_Chicago> tribe 2 ftw
[08:16] <dsmith> hmmm not even beta yet
[08:16] <dsmith> you know with 6-month release cycle's there is less of an extreme rewrite of everything
[08:17] <Admiral_Chicago> it works well
[08:17] <dsmith> seems to be, I am amazed the M$ never took that route
[08:17] <shawnr> Gutsy, pretty stable except for some updates that crashedmeearlier
[08:18] <dsmith> isnt that kde4?
[08:18] <shawnr> still 3.5.7, will integrate KDE4 towards final release
[08:19] <Admiral_Chicago> dsmith: no, it uses kde 3.5.7
[08:19] <dsmith> I burned a KDE 4 disk, nothing really new
[08:20] <Admiral_Chicago> or working...
[08:20] <shawnr> If you install tribe2 do not update some dependencies aren't in the repos yet
[08:21] <Admiral_Chicago> #ubuntu+1 is your friend
[08:22] <shawnr> ATI driver (fglrx) 8.37. will delete xorg.conf when you run ati --config
[08:22] <shawnr> later
[08:29] <sjckk> hi :)
[08:31] <hero> !webcam
[08:31] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[08:38] <hero> !camorama
[08:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about camorama - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:46] <hero> i don't suppose anyone uses camorama often?
[08:49] <elknof3> hi everybody
[08:50] <elknof3> who haves intel graphic card??
[08:50] <Admiral_Chicago> i do
[08:50] <Admiral_Chicago> what do you need
[08:50] <Admiral_Chicago> err. what can I help you with
[08:50] <elknof3> Admiral_Chicago: how much fps does your card gives u?
[08:50] <Admiral_Chicago> thats much better phrasing
[08:51] <Admiral_Chicago> not sure, I've never checked
[08:51] <elknof3> wiht glxgears??
[08:51] <elknof3> whit*
[08:52] <elknof3> sorry for my english... its not my native language
[08:52] <Admiral_Chicago> 311.476 FPS
[08:52] <Admiral_Chicago> your english is well
[08:53] <Admiral_Chicago> s/well/good. my english isn't too good and i'm a native speaker
[08:53] <elknof3> Admiral_Chicago: thanks... but ur computer is a laptop??
[08:53] <Admiral_Chicago> no, it is a desktop
[08:54] <elknof3> lol that happend
[08:54] <Admiral_Chicago> eh?
[08:55] <Admiral_Chicago> elknof3: you proably need the xserver-video-intel driver
[08:56] <Admiral_Chicago> xserver-xorg-video-intel
[08:56] <elknof3> Admiral_Chicago: mmm no its just that i have a dell notebook d620 latitude and it gives me 1300 fps
[08:56] <elknof3> i think is a lot...
[08:57] <RivaeAerya> how do i make it so that Katapult does web short cuts? (so you can search google etc etc)
[08:57] <elknof3> Admiral_Chicago: how much memory is ur chipset??
[08:59] <aznpridechinese> can anyone tell me what exactly is nvidia glx? or glx?
[09:00] <Admiral_Chicago> elknof3: its an integrated chip
[09:00] <Admiral_Chicago> you have a good amount of FPS
[09:03] <elknof3> Admiral_Chicago: yes
[09:03] <elknof3> 1400 fps
[09:07] <pwilson> could someone help me with the process of uninstalling beryl core 0.3.0 and reverting to 0.2.0?
[09:08] <pwilson> I've been told that only 0.2.0 works on my system.
[09:10] <Admiral_Chicago> pwilson: #ubuntu-effects is for you
[09:10] <pwilson> Thanks.
[09:20] <linux_user400354> is it possible for people to get unlisted phone numbers?
[09:21] <fignew> linux_user400354: This is a linux channel
[09:21] <fignew> not a phone book channel...
[09:22] <fignew> but to answer your question (assuming you're american), yes, it is.
[09:22] <linux_user400354> fignew: yes i am, sorry just wondering. someone did it to me. how is that possible?
[09:23] <fignew> costs $$$, not sure how.
[09:24] <pwilson> More likely a mistake at the phone company, than someone activly doing it.
[09:24] <pwilson> And, if you are using a cell phone, its always unlisted.
[09:24] <pwilson> thank god.
[09:31] <raheem> hi.. anyone knows the manual xconfiguration for LG StudioWorks 570CE ?
[09:31] <raheem> can't get more than 800x600 resolutions in Kubuntu, while in Win i get 1024*768
[09:39] <Gote> !german
[09:39] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:42] <Admiral_Chicago> raheem: you may need to do sudo dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:42] <raheem> doesn't work with me.. tried. it.. seems it requires some manual entries
[09:43] <pacman> anyone any good with mplayer?
[10:07] <kraut> moin
[10:13] <Lattyware> Hey all. Big problem, When I login, the screen flashes, then kicks me back to the login screen.
[10:16] <Lattyware> dddfva nm
[10:23] <Gote> !german
[10:23] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:24] <pharsalus> I have a problem with removing torrents from Ktorrent. Every time I open Ktorrent, I get a warning saying "Some data files of the torrent ... do you want to recreate them, etc" Then Ktorrent loads up, but I can't remove the torrent. Any ideas?
[10:25] <hero> you can't right click on the torrent and say remove torrent and data?
[10:25] <hero> or you could find out where you have the torrent files stored and just delete those.
[10:25] <pharsalus> Right-clicking on it and selecting that crashes Ktorrent
[10:28] <whippy> morning
[10:29] <pharsalus> Ok guys, sorted it, thanks for help
[10:32] <fritz> how can i unmount all my partitions
[10:32] <fritz> and remount them again
[10:33] <fritz> cause i'm using windows paralel to kubuntu feisty
[10:33] <fritz> and now some of them don't work anymore
[10:39] <fritz> any1 here?
[10:40] <meuhlol> fritz
[10:40] <meuhlol> maybe you can help me too :)
[10:40] <meuhlol> fritz for unmount you have commands: mount and umount
[10:41] <meuhlol> fritz: mount -a [-t|-O]  ...     : mount all stuff from /etc/fstab
[10:41] <meuhlol> Usage: umount [-hV] 
[10:41] <meuhlol>        umount -a [-f]  [-r]  [-n]  [-v]  [-t vfstypes]  [-O opts] 
[10:41] <meuhlol>        umount [-f]  [-r]  [-n]  [-v]  special | node...
[10:41] <crocodile> how do I identify what drive and partition a directory is part of?
[10:42] <crocodile> hd1,3 example
[10:44] <meuhlol> directory or a drive?
[10:45] <gnomefreak> crocodile: try looking in fstab
[10:46] <crocodile> fstab -command not found. Is xffm4-fstab what I want?
[10:46] <meuhlol> crocodile: go to /etc/ & open with text editor fstab
[10:48] <crocodile> that helps thanks
[10:52] <meuhlol> np
[10:52] <fritz> ok, really need help here, my kubuntu is only seeing some partitions as folders and not recognizing any content, i've tryed remounting but it doesen't work...i think this was caused by the fact that i'm also running windows
[10:54] <meuhlol> fritz try to see in official doc, there was an topic speakin' about acces to parts of windows from linux & vice versa
[10:56] <fritz> well
[10:57] <fritz> at least give some instructions as to how to reset the fstab
[10:57] <fritz> cause i worked around with it
[10:57] <fritz> and it may be the problem
[10:57] <fritz> i'm shure it has a backup
[10:57] <fritz> or somth
[10:57] <se7en> anybody know if i can use rsync with samba?
[10:57] <fritz> meuhlol
[10:58] <meuhlol> fritz: i have related problems too lol, i installed windows to one of partition & lost my MBR
[10:58] <moshea> hi all .... any idea why I can't find sun-java6 in the multiverse ?
[10:58] <se7en> i want to use rsync to cp folders from windows to a linux box
[10:59] <fritz> that's easy to fix
[10:59] <fritz> :P
[10:59] <fritz> meuhlol
[10:59] <fritz> just download and a write a super grub cd
[10:59] <meuhlol> moshea: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin sun-java6-fonts sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
[11:00] <meuhlol> fritz: what i was do but have Error 15 file not found
[11:00] <fritz> meuhlol:ok, so don't you know how to replace the fstab with the back-up fstab?
[11:01] <meuhlol> nop
[11:02] <moshea> meuhlol: can't find the package
[11:03] <jussi01> !fstab | fritz
[11:03] <ubotu> fritz: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[11:03] <moshea> meuhlol: i enabled the multiverse line in the sources.list but the package just doesn't show up
[11:03] <dennis_> hi there, i have feisty fawn running since yesterday, but cannot get my optical mouse to work, anybody?
[11:03] <jussi01> !java | moshea
[11:03] <ubotu> moshea: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[11:04] <moshea> jussi01: I've followed all those instructions ....
[11:04] <se7en> where do i find the samba: folder?
[11:05] <jussi01> moshea: have you don sudo apt-get update?
[11:05] <mbjsscn2> samba folder is /etc/samba
[11:06] <moshea> jussi01: ah, this is a source I hadn't tried yet : deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ feisty free non-free
[11:06] <jussi01> moshea: thats what you need!
[11:06] <jussi01> oh, hang on
[11:06] <jussi01> no, it should be in multivers
[11:07] <jussi01> hmmm
[11:07] <dennis_>  hi there, i have feisty fawn running since yesterday, but cannot get my optical mouse to work, anybody?
[11:07] <fritz> jussi01: i screwd my fstab and i know there's a back-up
[11:07] <fritz> just want to know how to replace the current one with the backup
[11:07] <moshea> jussi01: well yeah, that's where the confusion comes from ... all the other websites have mentioned multiverse
[11:07] <jussi01> fritz: so swap /etc/fstab with the back up
[11:07] <se7en> rsync -r -n -t -v --progress smb://bigbubbleoffice/Back2Work/DiveShopBack/ /home/se7en/Backup BB/          exit with error ????????
[11:08] <fritz> i don't know where it is
[11:08] <jussi01> moshea: 1 sec
[11:08] <moshea> jussi01: thx
[11:08] <jussi01> fritz: kmenu - find files/folder -> search for fstab
[11:09] <llutz> se7en: mount windows-share (smbmount) locally and backup then
[11:09] <se7en> ok i will try
[11:10] <moshea> jussi01: I think that those instructions are for IBM's JRE, I'd like to get Sun's
[11:11] <jussi01> moshea: try doing it the gui way (kmenu -> system -> adept -> manage repositories -> multiverse)
[11:11] <fritz> ok...no backup found...
[11:11] <fritz> i deleted some partitions from fstab
[11:11] <fritz> and tryied to run auto disk mounter
[11:12] <fritz> ...thought that would work and they would be added again and work
[11:12] <jussi01> fritz: did you make a backup?
[11:12] <fritz> i made one a couple of days ago
[11:12] <moshea> jussi01: interesting your should mention that because although I'm on 7.0.4, the Adept GUI doesn't show me those checkboxes but just shows the contents of the sources.list file
[11:12] <fritz> but it doesen't show up on search
[11:13] <jussi01> moshea: but are there not tabs there?
[11:13] <fritz> isnt there a command that scans the machine for hd components and puts them back into fstab?
[11:13] <moshea> nope, just some pseudo GUI editor of the sources.list file ...
[11:13] <jussi01> fritz: where did you put the backup? its likely still in the same place...
[11:13] <jussi01> moshea: now thats weird...
[11:13] <fritz> dunno
[11:13] <moshea> jussi01: by the way, I remember that page (been googling for a bit already) but it's not the URL you pasted earlier on
[11:14] <moshea> jussi01: well, I upgraded from Edgy ... maybe that's a problem
[11:14] <jussi01> moshea: you _should_ just be able to install sun-java6-jre from the repos
[11:14] <moshea> jussi01: hence the mystery
[11:14] <fritz> so isnt there a command for konsole to rewrite fstab
[11:14] <fritz> ?
[11:14] <moshea> jussi01: I must be doing something wrong ... but what
[11:15] <moshea> jussi01: hey, I got to run, thanks for trying ... I'll come back when I have a bit more time
[11:15] <moshea> jussi01: cheers
[11:15] <jussi01> fritz: pop into #ubuntu - someone there might know, im sorry, I dont
[11:15] <jussi01> moshea: yeah, no probs
[11:18] <whippy> ;)
[11:21] <jussi01> fritz: have you tried using the diskmounter script?
[11:22] <whippy> @jussi?
[11:22] <whippy> you got problems with mount?
[11:22] <jussi01> whippy: fritz cant find his fstab back up
[11:23] <whippy> uhhh
[11:23] <fritz> yes
[11:23] <whippy> @fritz how many partitions do you have?
[11:23] <fritz> it doesen't work
[11:23] <fritz> yeah...
[11:23] <whippy> and do you have only one disk in?
[11:23] <fritz> my
[11:23] <fritz> my fstab isn't right
[11:23] <fritz> jussi01 how do you use pastebin
[11:23] <fritz> ?
[11:23] <fritz> i went on the site
[11:23] <fritz> and what then
[11:23] <fritz> ?
[11:24] <jussi01> past your stuff in and press paste?
[11:24] <jussi01> !paste
[11:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:24] <llutz> fritz: try "find /etc /home -name \*fstab* 2>/dev/null" maybe you'll find your backup
[11:25] <fritz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29077/
[11:26] <fritz> this is what i get from fdsick -l command
[11:26] <jussi01> fritz: have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[11:26] <fritz> yes
[11:26] <fritz> it says
[11:26] <fritz> when i run the script
[11:26] <gnomefreak> !enter | fritz (that is what got you banned from #ubuntu if you stop you will be unbanned)
[11:26] <ubotu> fritz (that is what got you banned from #ubuntu if you stop you will be unbanned): Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:26] <animimotus> hello
[11:27] <jussi01> !hi | animimotus
[11:27] <ubotu> animimotus: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[11:27] <fritz> well
[11:28] <dennis_> when running amarok i get this error in several lines: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[11:28] <animimotus> a $ ls ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf ---------> give me : ls: /home/animimotus/.gnupg/gpg.conf: Aucun fichier ou rpertoire de ce type
[11:28] <animimotus> (no file found, sorry)
[11:28] <fritz> i deleted my non-working partitions from fstab and now that auto script can't mount them because they're not in fstab
[11:28] <fritz> cant i get a command that rewrites fstab?
[11:29] <animimotus> I have installed gnupg-agent and pinentry-qt
[11:29] <hx> hi
[11:29] <animimotus> must I $ touch ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf   ?
[11:29] <jussi01> !hi | hx
[11:29] <ubotu> hx: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[11:30] <jussi01> animimotus: have you actually created a key?
[11:30] <fritz> should i just uninstall kubuntu and install it again cause i would have been done with this problem if i had done that in the first place.....
[11:30] <dennis_>  running amarok I get this error: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169, anyone knows how to fix this?
[11:30] <jussi01> patience dennis_ ;)
[11:30] <hx> I've logged in ,but when i run command like 'kdesu ....", it returned 'Su returned with an error'
[11:30] <llutz> fritz: paste your (broken) fstab too
[11:31] <animimotus> jussi01: yes a : $ gpg --list-keys   list me my new key
[11:31] <llutz> dennis_: delete all those wacom-related stuff in xorg.conf
[11:31] <hx> :)
[11:31] <animimotus> dennis_: or select all the lines and make a ctrl + d in kate for comment all at one
[11:31] <fritz> llutz: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29078/
[11:32] <animimotus> * once
[11:32] <fritz> the only problem is that it;s missing some partitions i deleted from there
[11:32] <fritz> the partitions names are hdb1, hdb5 and hda5
[11:32] <llutz> fritz: then paste output of "sudo fdisk -l" also
[11:33] <whippy> you also can try to mount your partition on mnt
[11:33] <hx> no one can answer my question?
[11:33] <whippy> mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt
[11:33] <whippy> or create sepreate folders for example
[11:34] <fritz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29079/
[11:34] <fritz> llutz
[11:34] <whippy> and mount them there
[11:34] <llutz> fritz: hda5= swap and has an entry in fstab, you don't have any /dev/hdb (2nd hdd) recognized
[11:34] <whippy> which FS Type you used for your partitions ext2 / ext3? vfat?
[11:35] <fritz> that because i deleted them :(
[11:35] <whippy> yo deleted the partition information, perhaps?
[11:35] <fritz> yes, from fstab
[11:35] <llutz> fritz: according to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29079/  there is no 2nd harddisk in your system
[11:35] <whippy> in fstab only mounts are recognized...
[11:36] <fdoving> fritz: did you reboot? if not you might find some usefull things in /etc/mtab
[11:36] <fritz> rebooted after...
[11:37] <whippy> try to check you hardware,
[11:37] <fritz> the original problem was that i had 3 partitions which appeared as blank folderds in konqueror and i thought if i'd delete them from fstab then mount them again they would work...
[11:37] <whippy> if the hdd is plugged in correctly, and the cables are ok
[11:37] <whippy> if your case is open...
[11:37] <fritz> yea it is...it runns ok on windows
[11:37] <whippy> yeah, but thats the first hdd,
[11:38] <whippy> you talked about hdb
[11:38] <whippy> hdb means second hdd
[11:38] <fritz> i know
[11:38] <fritz> both hd work fine in windows
[11:38] <whippy> check in the bios if both are detected
[11:38] <whippy> are they?
[11:38] <whippy> ok,
[11:38] <whippy> you use ubuntu?
[11:38] <whippy> try to enter ->
[11:38] <whippy> mount /dev/hdb5 /mnt
[11:39] <whippy> and get into the directory /mnt and see if your files are there
[11:39] <whippy> or get into the directory,
[11:39] <fritz> mount: can't find /dev/hdb5/mnt in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[11:40] <llutz> fritz: mount /dev/hdb5 /mnt    with a space befre /mnt
[11:40] <llutz> before
[11:40] <whippy> yip, right ;)
[11:41] <fritz> mount: special device /dev/hdb1 does not exist
[11:41] <whippy> i think, there is no hdb...?
[11:41] <llutz> whippy: it isn't, else it would have been listed by fdisk -l
[11:41] <whippy> please check if the second hard drive really works...
[11:41] <whippy> i also thought... yeah
[11:42] <whippy> cause it lists all partitions
[11:42] <whippy> :/
[11:42] <whippy> i think the harddisk isn't recognized...
[11:42] <whippy> i don't think its recognized in mWin either... ?
[11:43] <fritz> the 2 partitions still appear as folders in my storage media folders...:-/
[11:43] <whippy> @iilutz, please check if the drive "hdb" your second HDD is really recognized
[11:44] <whippy> or try to boot on a LiveCD, f.e. Ubuntu
[11:44] <whippy> and check if they are recognized,
[11:44] <whippy> if hdb isn't recognized by the livecd, i think you have a hardware problem... would be my opinion....
[11:45] <whippy> ups i mean Fritz ;)
[11:45] <whippy> or what do you mean iilutz ;)
[11:45] <whippy> would be a fine idea, or do you have another ;) ;)
[11:46] <whippy> soooo.... i gonna check out my second and third system now... have to work ;)
[11:47] <fritz> will try 2 see
[11:47] <fritz> if the windows os can see it...but what should i do if it works...as usual>
[11:50] <altctrl> hi guys i need some help to acces a external hard drive that got xp on it, anyone here can help?
[11:51] <altctrl> i just installed kubuntu and want to get my files from this hard drive
[11:52] <danya_> hello
[11:53] <danya_> guys I cant seem to remember if I installed a 32-bit or 64-bit ubuntu version ... how can I find out what version I'm using ?
[11:54] <altctrl> anyone? or at least point me to a site that has a step by step description?
[11:54] <danya_> a description to what altctrl ?
[11:56] <altctrl> how can i acces an external hard drive that has xp on it
[11:56] <altctrl> so far i only found out that i need ntfs 3g
[11:56] <whippy> @altctrl? ist it an usb device?
[11:56] <whippy> or is it inside your case?
[11:56] <altctrl> got that but even when i start konqueror as kdesu cant see the drive
[11:56] <whippy> IDE vs usb
[11:57] <altctrl> no i got a laptop and its usb
[11:57] <whippy> are there more users or only root and you?
[11:57] <altctrl> so far only me
[11:58] <danya_> anyone plz ? .. I'm installing compiz fusion and I'm not sure which code to pick for i386 or 64amd .. I need to know
[11:58] <altctrl> i am not exactly sure about this root situation in kubuntu
[11:58] <whippy> try to change to the folder /media/disk
[11:58] <whippy> or /media/disk-1
[11:58] <whippy> or /media/usb
[11:58] <altctrl> there is only media/ cdrom
[11:58] <altctrl> cdrom0 to be exact
[11:59] <altctrl> i might need to mount it?
[11:59] <whippy> plug off the device... and plug it in,
[11:59] <whippy> do you get an pop up pop box?
[11:59] <altctrl> yes
[11:59] <whippy> than klick on open
[11:59] <altctrl> this does nothing
[12:00] <whippy> you should also see the drives on your desktop
[12:00] <altctrl> i do not htink i got permission to acces this as user
[12:00] <altctrl> that's why i started konqeror as kdesu
[12:01] <altctrl> but it di dnot help the hard drive is ntfs, xp
[12:02] <pag> danya_, what does uname -m  return?
[12:02] <altctrl> when i click on the pop up window it jsut dissapear and no new window comes up withte drives
[12:02] <danya_> pag : come again ?
[12:03] <pag> danya_, enter " uname -m " in konsole, and tell me what does it output
[12:03] <altctrl> it shuld be pretty straightforward and everyday task but i cant find the answer
[12:04] <zorglu_> q. i got feisty and the font in firefox are *ugly*, while the font for kde apps are very nice, where should i look to fix this ?
[12:05] <pag> zorglu_, System Settings -> Appearance -> GTK Styles and Fonts
[12:05] <zorglu_> pag: thanks lookin
[12:06] <danya_> pag : x86_64
[12:06] <aznpridechinese> i need help, for some ready everytime i boot up, the composite manager for beryl says crashes twice or something
[12:06] <Ryaren> hi
[12:06] <danya_> this means I have amd64 ?
[12:06] <aznpridechinese> ready=reason*
[12:06] <extus> Hello!
[12:06] <pag> danya_, then I'm 90% sure, taht you're using amd64 -architecture
[12:06] <danya_> pag : thank u :)
[12:07] <pag> danya_, np :)
[12:07] <aznpridechinese> pag can you help me?
[12:07] <whippy> pag,
[12:07] <whippy> what is with amd64 the trouble?
[12:07] <whippy> ;)
[12:07] <whippy> i never used it, i only wanted to know...
[12:07] <gnomefreak> danya_: what does uname -a say?
[12:08] <whippy> ahhh ok,
[12:08] <pag> aznpridechinese, sorry, I haven't used beryl/compiz... you should ask in #ubuntu-effects they know better
[12:08] <whippy> the code she should pick...
[12:08] <Ryaren> Sby can see what is wrong with this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29080/plain/ (xorg.0.log) I want to see the screen on my TV too, but the Screen1 didn't start! How can I make that the screen1 starts too?
[12:08] <whippy> i386 or amd64
[12:08] <aznpridechinese> they don't talk in there
[12:09] <pag> whippy, ie. Flasha doesn't work on amd64 (at least easily)
[12:09] <pag> s/Flasha/Flash
[12:09] <whippy> ohh... flash
[12:09] <whippy> i see
[12:09] <whippy> oke,
[12:09] <whippy> you mean on linux?
[12:09] <gnomefreak> pag: gnome 0.8.0 works great and im trying to get backported atm
[12:09] <gnomefreak> not gnome gnash
[12:09] <whippy> or it doesnt matter if its linux...
[12:10] <gnomefreak> whippy: 3rd party apps dont make 64bit because windows never had 64bit support
[12:10] <gnomefreak> some do most dont
[12:10] <pag> gnomefreak, yeah, but afaik gnash is equal to flash7, while some site use Flash9 ?
[12:10] <whippy> so there is no 64bit windows?
[12:10] <aznpridechinese> god it's like talking to a brick wall in effects
[12:10] <whippy> at the moment?
[12:11] <gnomefreak> pag: it plays a huge portion of them i have only ran into 2 maybe 3 that it didnt play
[12:11] <whippy> only server, or?
[12:11] <pag> whippy, there is, but it's not widely used.. only in production machines, that don't need stuff like flash
[12:11] <Ryaren> Sby can see what is wrong with this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29080/plain/ (xorg.0.log) I want to see the screen on my TV too, but the Screen1 didn't start! How can I make that the screen1 starts too?
[12:11] <gnomefreak> whippy: vista == 1st 64bit windows support (to continue this lets move to #kubuntu-offtopic
[12:11] <pag> gnomefreak, ok. I'll keep that in mind :)
[12:11] <whippy> oke, good to know, that ... ;)
[12:12] <gnomefreak> pag: we are working on why its not playing some (it plays some flash9 coded flash
[12:13] <whippy> @gnome thanks ;)
[12:13] <gnomefreak> yw
[12:13] <Xbehave> does anybody use a p2p client?
[12:13] <Ryaren> ktorrent
[12:13] <gnomefreak> azits fairly early in US/canada where most of the people that help out in -effects are
[12:14] <gnomefreak> oh well he left :(
[12:14] <Xbehave> i was trying for limewire istead of torrent
[12:14] <mario> hi to all
[12:15] <Ryaren> Why didn't start my additional Screen? Wht do you think? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29080/plain/
[12:15] <gnomefreak> aznpridechinese: its fairly early in US/canada where most of the people that help out in -effects are
[12:15] <gnomefreak> aznpridechinese: let me scroll for your issue and see what i think
[12:16] <fanch76> je debute sur ubuntu
[12:16] <pag> !fr | fanch76
[12:16] <ubotu> fanch76: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:18] <danya_> guys I have just installed compiz fusion .. But it doesnt seem to start :S
[12:19] <danya_> when I enetred compiz --replace i get this Checks indicate that it's impossible to start compiz on your system.
[12:19] <gnomefreak> danya_: its known to be broken
[12:19] <danya_> and when I alt-f2 type compiz fusion nothing runs
[12:19] <danya_> so no beryl no compiz now !?
[12:19] <Xbehave> danya_: tried beryl
[12:19] <danya_> I did
[12:19] <danya_> it stopped working after running it for 1 day !
[12:19] <Xbehave> do you have glx working?
[12:19] <gnomefreak> danya_: beryl works compiz works (if you get older version but compiz-fusion is broken
[12:20] <danya_> Xbehave : I dont know lol
[12:20] <danya_> I've only been using Ubuntu for a couple of days and not familiar with these things
[12:21] <Xbehave> danya_: try glxgears in a konsole
[12:21] <gnomefreak> danya_: try glxinfo | grep direct
[12:21] <Ryaren> Why didn't start my additional Screen? What do you think? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29080/plain/
[12:21] <danya_>   extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[12:21] <danya_> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[12:21] <gnomefreak> does it say yes? and what video card are you using with what 3d drivers
[12:22] <gnomefreak> danya_: what guide did you follow to install it?
[12:22] <danya_> hold on ill give u the link
[12:23] <danya_> beryl or compiz fusion ?
[12:23] <Ryaren> !tv-out
[12:23] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)
[12:24] <danya_> gnomefreak : this is my vcard I believe  VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[12:25] <danya_> I've installed beryl from this link http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Support_for_INTEL_cards
[12:25] <danya_> and compiz fusion from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=481314
[12:29] <gnomefreak> danya_: im gonna assume you have the intel 3d drivers installed and being used?
[12:29] <danya_> gnomefreak : .. ummm ... are u talking about Nvidia and these things ?
[12:30] <gnomefreak> danya_: if you dont have nvidia card you dont install nvidia drivers
[12:30] <danya_> gnomefreak : I don't know if I have he intel drives installed and used
[12:30] <gnomefreak> your card seems to be an intel from what you posted up a little bit. i suggest you follow a different link to install it
[12:31] <danya_> beryl ?
[12:31] <gnomefreak> danya_: yes
[12:31] <gnomefreak> danya_: what version of ubuntu?
[12:31] <danya_> 7.04
[12:31] <gnomefreak> danya_: let me see if i can find a better tut for you.
[12:32] <danya_> gnomefreak : thank u :)
[12:32] <gnomefreak> danya_: what did glxinfo | grep direct output?
[12:32] <danya_> that the GLX missing on display
[12:33] <zorglu_> !info ffmpeg
[12:33] <ubotu> ffmpeg: multimedia player, server and encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:0.cvs20060823-3.1ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 176 kB, installed size 620 kB
[12:33] <gnomefreak> danya_: it said that with glxgears and glxinfo?
[12:33] <zorglu_> how can i know the ffmpeg provided in gusty ?
[12:34] <gnomefreak> zorglu_: try asking in #ubuntu+1 :)
[12:34] <danya_> yes
[12:34] <zorglu_> gnomefreak: ok :)
[12:34] <moshea> can someone please have a look at my sources.list file and tell me if there are any obvious mistakes ? http://pastebin.com/944272
[12:34] <gnomefreak> zorglu_: i suggest you rethink that question as it doesnt really say what you are looking for
[12:34] <gnomefreak> moshea: whata error?
[12:34] <moshea> I upgraded from Edgy by doing a search-and-replace of Edgy to Feisty
[12:35] <moshea> gnomefreak: for some bizarre reason,I can't get sun-java6 from any repositories in that list
[12:35] <gnomefreak> moshea: and you have multiverse repo enabled or backport multiverse?
[12:35] <moshea> gnomefreak: also, strangely, my Adept pckg Mgr seems to be an old version
[12:36] <gnomefreak> moshea: you need to enable universe as well
[12:36] <moshea> gnomefreak: well, I'd tend to say yes but I'm no expert, hence me posting my sources.list and asking for counsel
[12:36] <moshea> oh !
[12:36] <moshea> gnomefreak: great, I'll do that right away !
[12:36] <frojnd> I have q. If I install linux where IP is static. And Is for every computer in LAN needed to be set and after I install this linux on that kind of connection and bring computer where is no router and no static IP. Can I just start pppoeconf and dsl connection will work?
[12:37] <gnomefreak> moshea: you need to enable line 21 and 36 and 37. on lines 36 and 37 you need to add multiverse to the end universe multiverse is how the end should look
[12:38] <gnomefreak> ok what was i doing
[12:38] <gnomefreak> danya_: this is a good guide for beryl but you need the 3d drivers for intel first
[12:39] <gnomefreak> danya_: im looking for them they should be in repos i just cant remember name
[12:39] <danya_> gnomefreak : wheren can I get that from ?
[12:40] <danya_> gnomefreak : thank u :) .. btw next time  somone asks me about my vcard what should I say ? instead of copying the output of lspci ?
[12:40] <gnomefreak> danya_: that is fine
[12:41] <moshea> gnomefreak: you're a star !
[12:41] <Ryaren> WOW!
[12:42] <gnomefreak> if i dont answer im sorry i have firefox-trunk building and its lagging me really bad
[12:43] <Ryaren> I almost done to configure my TV-out but something wrong with my secondary screen... Pls take a look for a sec this log file! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29084/plain/
[12:43] <whippy> ,.
[12:43] <whippy> ,test
[12:43] <whippy> .
[12:44] <Ryaren> Secondary screen should be my TV but it is searching in CRT-1 (what is my Monitor)
[12:44] <whippy> does some know a simple mail client for linux,
[12:45] <whippy> which can be used from an usb stick?
[12:45] <whippy> would be cool if i could thunderbird with me... or so...
[12:45] <pag> whippy, I'm not sure, but there might be thunderbird-portable
[12:45] <whippy> but not for linux, i think
[12:45] <whippy> i know the portapps page...
[12:45] <danya_> guys while I try installing flash player I get this error
[12:45] <danya_>  Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the
[12:45] <danya_>        Adobe Flash Player installer.
[12:45] <whippy> :/ but i'm searching for a linux version
[12:46] <gnomefreak> danya_: install gnash
[12:46] <danya_> I did
[12:46] <gnomefreak> danya_: flash 64 doesnt exist
[12:46] <pag> whippy, you can run it with Wine
[12:46] <danya_> gnomefreak : I did install mozilla gnash but still it doesnt work .. :(
[12:47] <Kaljis> Hello, can anybody help me log in to a broken Kubuntu installation from a livecd?
[12:47] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: you know where drivers for intel video cards are?
[12:47] <whippy> i dont like the have an emu for it...
[12:47] <Kaljis> Or is it possible?
[12:47] <whippy> i want to run fast
[12:47] <whippy> plug it on, and start...
[12:48] <whippy> thought also about a running ubuntu on stick or so,
[12:48] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: in the repositories?
[12:48] <gnomefreak> danya_: it wont play all feisty gnash isnt so good thats why im trying to get 0.8.0 backported. i have a build for it in feisty if you want to try that. i use it :)
[12:48] <llutz> whippy: dsl on a stick
[12:48] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: i dont know much of anything about intel cards :(
[12:48] <pag> Kaljis, it's possible with chroot
[12:48] <whippy> do you have expierience with it?
[12:48] <llutz> whippy: not really, used it once just for tests
[12:49] <Kaljis> pag, can you explain in little more detail, I
[12:49] <Kaljis> +'m quite novice
[12:49] <danya_> gnomefreak : I would try anything just to make it work ..or I'll just simply go back to windows lol ..
[12:49] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: im looking for a guide but nothing is coming up helpful :( i would have thought they were default in feisty but i guess that is wrong
[12:49] <gnomefreak> !moztest
[12:49] <ubotu> The Mozilla-testing repos can be found at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/PreviewArchives. Please remember these are testing repos, the packages in these repos are not stable and may break things on your system. Use with caution. Please report bugs found from these packages to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/PreviewArchives/Bugs.
[12:50] <gnomefreak> danya_: go to the first link look at bottom ofpage
[12:50] <whippy> @IIlutz i read a little bit about DSL,
[12:50] <pag> Kaljis, before I begin: If it'll be easier for you to understand in Finnish, please join #kubuntu-fi
[12:50] <gnomefreak> danya_: do not use the repos at this time
[12:50] <whippy> but when i tried to put it on the stick i often failed... :/
[12:51] <whippy> a dd iso would be fine,
[12:51] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: they should be installed by default.  they're all open source.  what's the problem?
[12:51] <whippy> what could be put with dd if=/... of=/dev/sda
[12:51] <danya_> gnomefreak : it took me to an index .. which one should I download ?
[12:51] <Kaljis> pag, I'm comfortable in using English :)
[12:52] <pag> Kaljis, ok.
[12:52] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: the 3d is already in the intel drivers
[12:52] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: danya_ isnt getting glxgears to run its missing glx
[12:52] <Kaljis> I think I need to downgrade the kernel, since the new kernel has a harddrive related bug which prevents it booting (I get a TTY error)
[12:52] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: danya_ got libgl1-mesa-glx installed?
[12:53] <frojnd> I have q. If I install linux where IP is static. And Is for every computer in LAN needed to be set and after I install this linux on that kind of connection and bring computer where is no router and no static IP. Can I just start pppoeconf and dsl connection will work?
[12:53] <pag> Kaljis, first you should mount your / -partition: open konsole, and type: mkdir /kubuntu && mount /dev/sdXY /kubuntu
[12:53] <danya_> Hobbsee : how to check ?
[12:53] <gnomefreak> danya_: http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/gnash-feisty/ install mozilla-plugin-gnash and whatever else the error gives you when installing i think its libgnash but dont remember
[12:53] <Kaljis> Nice surprise, I just downloaded the updates and it doesn't boot anymore
[12:53] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: i dont know :(
[12:53] <Hobbsee> danya_: apt-cache policy libgl1-mesa-glx
[12:53] <pag> Kaljis, sudo in front of mkdir too
[12:53] <Hobbsee> and look at the installed line
[12:54] <gnomefreak> i have to walk away for a little while im lagging way too bad atm ill be back when build is done
[12:54] <danya_> Hobbsee :
[12:54] <danya_> libgl1-mesa-glx:
[12:54] <danya_>   Installed: 6.5.2-3ubuntu7
[12:54] <danya_>   Candidate: 6.5.2-3ubuntu7
[12:54] <danya_>   Version table:
[12:54] <danya_>  *** 6.5.2-3ubuntu7 0
[12:54] <danya_>         500 http://sa.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Packages
[12:54] <danya_>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[12:54] <Hobbsee> !paste
[12:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:54] <Hobbsee> but right.  so it is
[12:55] <danya_> Hobbsee : so what seems to be the problem !?
[12:55] <Hobbsee> danya_: is libgl1-mesa-dri installed?
[12:55] <Hobbsee> i have no idea
[12:56] <danya_> Hobbsee : yes
[12:56] <danya_> Hobbsee : Beryl was working just fine for 2 days and then It just stopped working for me :(
[12:56] <whippy> does some one use kopete?
[12:56] <pag> Kaljis, after you've mounted you should command: sudo chroot /kubuntu   after which you should me logged on your broken installation with root priveledges
[12:56] <Hobbsee> danya_: right.
[12:56] <Hobbsee> danya_: ask in #beryl then?
[12:57] <whippy> where are the settings of kopete stored? in /home ?
[12:57] <whippy> or elsewhere?
[12:57] <danya_> Hobbsee : thank u :)
[12:57] <pag> whippy, ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete ?
[12:57] <whippy> oke,
[12:57] <whippy> if i backup the full home structe,
[12:57] <Hobbsee> ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete and ~/.kde/share/config/kopete*
[12:57] <whippy> and put it back on a machine?
[12:57] <whippy> with a new installation,
[12:57] <whippy> configure kopete,
[12:58] <Kaljis> pag, ok, I'll try, thanks
[12:58] <whippy> and playback the files of /hom
[12:58] <whippy> i do not loose my history ;)
[12:58] <whippy> ? is this right?
[12:58] <whippy> or too simple to believe? ;)
[12:58] <pag> whippy, if I did understand you right, then yes.
[12:58] <whippy> cool ;)
[12:59] <whippy> so the same happens with mail clients stuff thunderbird... and so on...
[12:59] <pag> whippy, if you backup your whole /home/Username then all user settings will be saved
[01:00] <whippy> yes,
[01:00] <whippy> and on the new system,
[01:00] <whippy> i only have to add the same users,
[01:00] <whippy> and playback home
[01:01] <whippy> if its that, its really cool ;)
[01:01] <pag> whippy, yes. user has to have the same username and UID
[01:01] <whippy> the UID, could check me out troubles, or?
[01:01] <whippy> i do know nothing about UID, only thats a number
[01:01] <whippy> like GID
[01:02] <whippy> perhabs its better i cp the userfile and groupfile also?
[01:02] <pag> whippy, if your current user is the first and only user on system, and you will not change anything related to UID in installation, then you'll be totally fine :)
[01:03] <whippy> yeah, but i thinking a little bit in interest...
[01:03] <whippy> whats about three users?
[01:03] <whippy> if i add the in the same sequence, its ok,
[01:03] <whippy> but if not, the numbers are diffrent...
[01:03] <whippy> so i have to backup the shadow files?
[01:03] <pag> whippy, it should be... you should just remember the settings and groups they're in
[01:04] <whippy>  so i backup /etc/shadow and /etc/group .... can i replace them? no, not really or?
[01:04] <whippy> they are security files...
[01:05] <whippy> are they protected by the kernel?
[01:05] <pag> whippy, I'm not sure about those.
[01:06] <whippy> in which file is the uid?
[01:06] <whippy> gid is in /etc/group
[01:06] <Ryaren> pls help me! I can't install the newest nvidia driver! Always the same error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29088/plain/
[01:07] <Ryaren> However I installed nvidia-glx-kernel
[01:07] <Ryaren> kernel module
[01:07] <pag> whippy, you can see users UID via kcontrol. I have no idea, in which file they are stored
[01:08] <whippy> okay, thanks pag ;)
[01:08] <whippy> gonna try this next time
[01:08] <whippy> going to try, ;)
[01:09] <Ryaren> Each nvidia driver has separated nvidia-kernel-source?
[01:09] <koji> whippy, uids are stored in /etc/passwd and gids in /etc/groups passwords are in /etc/shadow
[01:09] <Ryaren> for example the newest 9639 driver has an own kernel module???
[01:09] <koji> ryaren, your message sounds like you are missing the libc development packages
[01:10] <Ryaren> yepp
[01:10] <Ryaren> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29088/plain/
[01:10] <Ryaren> this is the error message
[01:10] <Ryaren> so the kernel-source is okay?
[01:11] <Ryaren> ohhhh what does it mean?
[01:11] <Ryaren> This package builds the NVIDIA XFree86 4.x/X.Org binary kernel module needed by nvidia-glx. This package is not needed on an Ubuntu system because a pre-compiled kernel module is supplied by the linux-restricted-modules packages.
[01:12] <koji> Right if you use the procompiled you don't need to install the one from nvidia.
[01:12] <Ryaren> I have to remove nvidia-kernel-source packages and then install the linux-restricted-modules?
[01:12] <koji> Unless you need the latest version
[01:12] <Ryaren> I need the newest version
[01:12] <whippy>  @koji ;) thanks
[01:12] <koji> if you just need nvidia kernel module. instaling nvidia-glx and retricted modules should be enough.
[01:13] <koji> that is what I have installed.
[01:13] <Ryaren> but the linux-restricted-modules was installed by default, wasn't it?
[01:14] <koji> should be, an aptitude search restricted should tell you
[01:14] <Ryaren> yea it installed
[01:15] <koji> ifor the newest driver. To compile the nvidia driver you will need to install the basic build system with aptitude install build-essential,
[01:15] <Ryaren> so if i remove nvidia-kernel-source I can install the nvidia driver?
[01:16] <koji> if you are already using it, it will be safer to check if you can compile before removing it, you can leave this for a later stage
[01:16] <Ryaren> okay
[01:17] <Ryaren> I installed build-essential package
[01:17] <koji> if I am not wrong build essential will install all the compilers and libraries needed for a basic compile.
[01:18] <Ryaren> i only use apt-get install build-essential
[01:18] <Ryaren> Yes it installed 5 components
[01:19] <koji> that is ok, I prefer aptitude, but it does the same job
[01:19] <Ryaren> okay now I turn off the X and try to install the nvidia driver
[01:20] <koji> Ryaren, this link in ubuntuforums can help you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=a49c10766eda78456193c2bfa3fdca79&t=495464
[01:23] <tripppy> i broke my login manager booter? instead of gdm login i just get shell. how do i fix?
[01:24] <tripppy> i was playing around with kdm
[01:24] <pag> tripppy, try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[01:24] <Ryaren> something was wrong but it is successfully completed
[01:25] <Ryaren> pag: how can i check my nvidia drvier's version number?
[01:25] <pag> Ryaren, open nvidia-settings
[01:26] <whippy> is there a client like kopete,
[01:26] <whippy> which has more options?
[01:26] <Ryaren> it is okay
[01:26] <whippy> like miranda?
[01:26] <Ryaren> so I'm using the newest nvidia driver but on my TV nothin happens :(
[01:26] <whippy> i like miranda, cause it has a lot of plugintools for special purposes ;)
[01:26] <_4strO> whippy: pidgin perhaps
[01:27] <Ryaren> always the same error message: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29093/plain/
[01:27] <Ryaren> why can't see my TV ???
[01:28] <whippy> @<_4str... looks like mira
[01:28] <whippy> could it be
[01:28] <whippy> ?
[01:29] <_4strO> dont know miranda
[01:29] <whippy> it has plugins ;)
[01:29] <whippy> look
[01:29] <whippy> www.miranda.com
[01:29] <_4strO> yes i'm on it
[01:30] <_4strO> whippy: sudo apt-get install gaim and you will see ;)
[01:30] <whippy> sry,
[01:30] <whippy> http://miranda-im.com/
[01:30] <whippy> i tried gaim...
[01:30] <whippy> but i miss some plugins...
[01:30] <whippy> for example in miranda there is a plugin,
[01:30] <whippy> you can see who read your away message,
[01:31] <whippy> or specify auto response for persons....
[01:31] <whippy> see invisible people, and so on...
[01:31] <koji> Ryaren, I never succeeded to enable the TVOut in my laptop.
[01:31] <_4strO> whippy: you can add more plugin with gaim
[01:31] <whippy> i want to have more control on my IM
[01:31] <koji> but there is a howto here http://www.linuxhardware.org/article.pl?sid=01/05/29/2147241
[01:31] <koji> maybe it helps
[01:31] <whippy> @<_str0
[01:32] <whippy> what would you preefer pidgin or gaim?
[01:32] <_4strO> whippy: so write tour own or pay someone to write it :p
[01:32] <_4strO> whippy: pidgin
[01:32] <pag> !pidgin | whippy
[01:32] <ubotu> whippy: pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info.
[01:32] <Ryaren> koji: Did u try with nvtv tool?? It works for me but I can't set different resoultion to my TV and Monitor and that's because it is useless for me..
[01:33] <_4strO> pag: you can have it on getdeb.org
[01:33] <_4strO> for feisty
[01:33] <whippy> k,
[01:33] <pag> whippy, If you really need miranda you could see, if it works in Wine
[01:33] <ubuntu_> 
[01:33] <Ryaren> So the linux see my TV because nvtv works..
[01:34] <pag> _4strO, I asked for that factoid just to show, that Pidgin is in fakt just newer Gaim.
[01:35] <koji> Ryaren: no it was time ago and I gave up.
[01:35] <_4strO> pag: you're right
[01:37] <manu_> hi
[01:37] <sabycar> hello
[01:37] <manu_> someone knows how to include fonts in openoffice imprss?
[01:37] <manu_> i googled a lot but i only found the way for M$ powerpoint
[01:37] <manu_> :(
[01:38] <manu_> isnt it possible?
[01:39] <_4strO> manu_: you have to intergrate them in the system i think
[01:40] <_4strO> not especially in ooo
[01:41] <manu_> _4strO: hm bad, :( my machine for presentation is windoze without this font
[01:41] <_4strO> manu_: you want the font in windows ?
[01:42] <nosrednaekim> manu_: ask in the open office channel.
[01:43] <manu_> nosrednaekim: where is it?
[01:43] <nosrednaekim> heh... good question
[01:43] <manu_> :D
[01:44] <manu_> nosrednaekim: in german channel they meant ooo hasnt this option
[01:44] <manu_> but thx you anyway
[01:44] <harmental> hey guys...
[01:44] <nosrednaekim> hello
[01:44] <harmental> how can play a bin/cue file without burning it?
[01:45] <_4strO> harmental: mplayer
[01:45] <harmental> _4strO: thx! let me try
[01:45] <_4strO> if it's a movie :p
[01:46] <harmental> that is correct!
[01:46] <_4strO> :)
[01:46] <harmental> thx! that worked like a charm!
[01:51] <binks_> im trying to mount my fedora drive but i get error >>  The system reported: mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> binks_: do you have LVM set up?
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> like, were you using it in fedora?
[01:54] <binks_> errr what lost me my fed drive was mythdora so it may be setup
[01:54] <binks_> all i want to do is copy some files across then im gonna wipe the drive
[01:55] <binks_> !lvm
[01:55] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[01:58] <frojnd> I wanna to boot from usb so I will be able to install dsl from USB. But there is a problem I don't know where in BIOS is first boot device USB. (even though I have usb ports and they work on ubuntu..) there are foolowiing options to set under advanced features in BIOS: cdrom, HDD1, HDD2, HDD3, zip100, lan, foppy, ls120 and hdd0. BUT NO USB :S what can I do??
[01:59] <tripppy> i just deleted a bunch of iso files off a full partition. they didnt go into trash and the partition was still full
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> frojnd: your MB does not support external device booting.
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> tripppy: did you use "rm"?
[02:00] <tripppy> nosrednaekim, no just right click, delete
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> then look in ~/.local/share/Trash
[02:01] <vzduch> frojnd: may be dynamic.. perhaps the option is only there when a USB device is plugged in
[02:02] <tripppy> nosrednaekim, nothing in there
[02:02] <binks_> nosrednaekim: is there a way to read off a lvm drive without actually converting my system
[02:03] <frojnd> vzduch, nach, I was searching for USB while it was in MB
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> binks_: I have no experience with lvm
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> tripppy: hmm , search for those files that you deleted
[02:04] <vzduch> frojnd: then, as nosrednaekim said, your MB doesn't support booting from external devices
[02:04] <tripppy> i did. nothing....
[02:06] <nosrednaekim> run "sync"
[02:10] <kubuntu> hello
[02:10] <kubuntu> im trying to install divx player
[02:11] <kubuntu> but i cant get it t install
[02:11] <kubuntu> how to i run install.sh file
[02:11] <kubuntu> do*
[02:11] <vzduch> kubuntu: why would you want that?
[02:11] <Vantskruv> sudo sh install.sh
[02:11] <kubuntu> to play divx video
[02:11] <kubuntu> online
[02:11] <vzduch> install DivX codec & play w/ MPlayer
[02:12] <kubuntu> im try to play dvix video online
[02:12] <kubuntu> ] but asking me to install divx
[02:12] <vzduch> !codecs | kubuntu
[02:12] <ubotu> kubuntu: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:13] <kubuntu> cp: cannot stat `/tmp/.divx/include/*.h': No such file or directory
[02:13] <kubuntu> geting that message
[02:15] <kubuntu> Archive:  contents.dat
[02:15] <kubuntu>    creating: /tmp/.divx/include/
[02:15] <kubuntu>    creating: /tmp/.divx/include/common/
[02:15] <kubuntu>   inflating: /tmp/.divx/include/common/DivXPortable.h
[02:15] <kubuntu>   inflating: /tmp/.divx/include/common/FourCC.h
[02:15] <kubuntu>   inflating: /tmp/.divx/include/common/FourCCs.h
[02:15] <kubuntu>   inflating: /tmp/.divx/include/common/FormatInfo.h
[02:15] <kubuntu>    creating: /tmp/.divx/include/encoder/
[02:15] <kubuntu>   inflating: /tmp/.divx/include/encoder/Settings.h
[02:15] <kubuntu>   inflating: /tmp/.divx/include/encoder/EncoderCallback.h
[02:15] <kubuntu>   inflating: /tmp/.divx/include/encoder/FrameResult.h
[02:15] <kubuntu>   inflating: /tmp/.divx/include/encoder/FrameOutput.h
[02:16] <kubuntu>   inflating: /tmp/.divx/include/encoder/EncoderInterface.h
[02:16] <kubuntu>   inflating: /tmp/.divx/include/encoder/FrameInput.h
[02:16] <kubuntu>   inflating: /tmp/.divx/include/encoder/FeedbackInterface.h
[02:16] <kubuntu>   inflating: /tmp/.divx/include/encoder/Cli.h
[02:16] <kubuntu>   inflating: /tmp/.divx/include/encoder/DivXException.h
[02:16] <kubuntu>    creating: /tmp/.divx/include/decoder/
[02:16] <kubuntu>   inflating: /tmp/.divx/include/decoder/LibQDec.h
[02:16] <kubuntu>    creating: /tmp/.divx/lib/
[02:16] <kubuntu>   inflating: /tmp/.divx/lib/libdivx.so
[02:16] <kubuntu> cp: cannot stat `/tmp/.divx/include/*.h': No such file or directory
[02:16] <kubuntu> its cming up with that
[02:17] <NightBird> gah
[02:18] <kubuntu> any1 plzz
[02:18] <kubuntu> im neww to kubuntu
[02:20] <NightBird> did you see the link on the restricted formats (and how to install them?)
[02:21] <kubuntu> which link
[02:21] <kubuntu> u mean readme
[02:21] <Vantskruv> Hello! I've a problem with the subtitles positioning on the Xine-engine with the newest ATI-drivers. I don't know if I should put this question here but oh well...
[02:21] <NightBird> !codec | kubuntu
[02:21] <ubotu> kubuntu: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:23] <Vantskruv> With the 8.34.8 everything is working well, but with the newest drivers the text is placed on the video-surface on my TV.
[02:23] <Vantskruv> But I want the subtitles to placed on the black frame. Though it works well on my computer-screen, but not the TV.
[02:24] <NightBird> kubuntu: also, it's considered polite to not use internet short hand when requesting help
[02:25] <yeniklasor> Hi. I almost configured all my devices. But I couldn't set my "BT878 Tv Capture" card. I can't scan channels. Could you help me please?
[02:25] <NightBird> Vantskruv: well..... I don't know what to say.... sounds like the driver update messed up your settings..
[02:26] <NightBird> yeniklasor: is there a linux driver for the card?
[02:26] <yeniklasor> yes there is
[02:26] <NightBird> Vantskruv: have you checked around in the ati config program to see if there is something that looks relavent in there?
[02:27] <NightBird> yeniklasor: ok, have you asked in the support channel for the driver?
[02:27] <Vantskruv> Actually I haven't, I'm using the 8.34.8 problem right now at this time...
[02:27] <yeniklasor> NightBird : Kubuntu is showing card and card is working. But how can I scan channels?
[02:27] <yeniklasor> Now there is only blank screen
[02:28] <NightBird> yeniklasor: oh... dunno, I haven't worked very much with kubuntu and tv cards yet....
[02:28] <Vantskruv> I mean I'm using the 8.34.8 drivers at this time :|
[02:29] <NightBird> Vantskruv: ok.... so an older version?
[02:30] <Vantskruv> NightBird: Yes, the older ones works. With the new ones the subtitles is on the black frame on my computer screen, but on the tv-screen they are on the video-surface.
[02:31] <NightBird> ah, and you want it on the black frame instead?
[02:31] <NetersLandreau> i'm having trouble with konqueror not making a connection to the network.. firefox, opera, etc work fine.. any clue?
[02:31] <Vantskruv> Yes, which works on the older drivers.
[02:32] <moshea> hi,me again ... I ran out of disk space trying to install sun-java6* ... now I'd like to remove that package altogether (clean some old useless packages up) and re-install .... problem -> even with --force-yes, apt-get refuses to remove the package ... what now ?
[02:32] <NightBird> um.... yeah, best suggestion I have would be to look in the ati config of the new version... no idea if it's a new option to configure, or if it's a bug that poped up in the ati drivers...
[02:32] <NightBird> you might want to take a chance with some of the unofficial ati help resources
[02:33] <NightBird> they could probably give you a better answer
[02:33] <Vantskruv> Ok, is this a know bug or so. If not where can I report (maybe it is a bug in Xine-drivers as well).
[02:34] <fanch76> ubuntu fr please dial
[02:34] <NightBird> Vantskruv: try asking in #ati
[02:34] <hasan> hi guys
[02:34] <hasan> i want to list all files ending with .chm
[02:35] <hasan> find . -regex *.chm  -print
[02:35] <hasan> what is wrong with that ?
[02:35] <Vantskruv> Ok, thanks NightBird. I'll check it out and hoping for a solution.
[02:35] <fanch76> je connais catia v5r16 exist 'il sur ubuntu
[02:35] <hasan> hasan@TrueFX:~/documents/Perl$ find . -regex *.chm  -print
[02:35] <hasan> find: paths must precede expression
[02:35] <hasan> Usage: find [-H]  [-L]  [-P]  [path...]  [expression] 
[02:35] <NightBird> !kubuntu-fr | fanch76
[02:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu-fr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:36] <NightBird> bah
[02:36] <NightBird> bot, why aren't you helping..
[02:37] <NightBird> hasan: does ls *.chm not do what you want?
[02:37] <hasan> how can i find all files ending with chm in a directroYy?
[02:37] <vzduch> !fr | fanch76
[02:37] <ubotu> fanch76: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:37] <fanch76> lien kubuntu-fr please
[02:37] <hasan> nope
[02:37] <vzduch> NightBird: see :>
[02:37] <hasan> i need to use find
[02:37] <NightBird> !fr | fanch76
[02:38] <hasan> i need to use more complicated regex that's why
[02:39] <vzduch> fanch76: <mode="spoonfeed"> /join #kubuntu-fr </mode>
[02:40] <llutz> hasan: find /dir -name \*chm -print
[02:40] <NightBird> hasan: have you tried ./ ?
[02:40] <NightBird> or forllow llutz's instruction as he's more likely to be correct
[02:41] <llutz> hasan: in bash you have to escape the "*"
[02:41] <shadowhywind> is there a way to get two layers of icons in the sys tray? instead of just one row down the middle?
[02:41] <hasan> hasan@TrueFX:~/documents/Perl$ find ./ -regex *.chm  -print
[02:41] <hasan> find: paths must precede expression
[02:41] <hasan> Usage: find [-H]  [-L]  [-P]  [path...]  [expression] 
[02:42] <llutz> hasan: find ./ -regex \*.chm  -print
[02:45] <llutz> hasan: or: find ./ -regex  '.*chm'  -print
[02:59] <_and> hi guys
[03:00] <_and> I was trying to install latest Kubuntu 7.04 on 3 different machines with no success...
[03:01] <_and> the problem is that in LiveCD mode it doesn't see neigher of my hard drives
[03:02] <_and> so when I am trying to install it installer doesn't see drives either
[03:03] <_and> "fdisk -l" doesn't show anything
[03:03] <_and> and /mnt is empty
[03:04] <_and> but when I am trying to create something (mount) it says that I don't have rights to do that
[03:04] <NiceGuyUK> Is there a meta-package I can install so that I can build GTK apps from source wihtout having a ton of GNOME stuff?
[03:04] <_and> I haven't found any solution on official kubuntu/ubuntu forums to I came here
[03:05] <_and> ... so I came here
[03:06] <bahus> Hellow =)
[03:07] <^peter^> _and are you using sudo before the mount command?
[03:08] <BluesKaj> _and, your drives wouldn't scsi , by any chance ?
[03:08] <whippy> what is the sudo command for?
[03:09] <whippy> to execute something with su rights?
[03:09] <jhutchins> !sudo | whippy
[03:09] <ubotu> whippy: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:09] <sweettooth> does anyone know how to connect to xp (logon to computer remotely instead of shared folders) from kubuntu?
[03:09] <jhutchins> I know you've been around for that before.
[03:09] <jhutchins> !kdesu | whippy
[03:09] <ubotu> whippy: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[03:09] <whippy> its more secure to use sudo as to log in as su?
[03:10] <jhutchins> Yes.
[03:10] <whippy> oke ;)
[03:10] <jhutchins> su by itself is a bad idea.
[03:11] <_and> I don't use SUDO.... and yes, on one machine I have scsi, but on another one ide
[03:11] <whippy> i havent tried the mythtv stuff yet, but i have tu ;)
[03:11] <whippy> to i mean
[03:11] <jhutchins> Almost always su -, but sudo is better with a *buntu system.
[03:11] <_and> BluesKaj: I don't run SUDO.... and yes, on one machine I have scsi, but on another one ide
[03:12] <whippy> whats the difference beetween "su" and "su -"
[03:12] <_and> BluesKaj: and I don't even run MOUNT because I can't create anything in /mnt... it says I don't have rights to do that
[03:12] <HayaBusa> good morning , what is the command to start and stop MYSQL ??
[03:12] <jhutchins> su - gives you the full root environment instead of just identity/permissions, which means everything ends up in the right place.
[03:12] <whippy> @haya mysql stop
[03:12] <jhutchins> _and: That's because you're too smart to use sudo.
[03:13] <whippy> service mysql stop
[03:13] <HayaBusa> Using consol. whats the path to mysql so i can start it
[03:13] <HayaBusa> i kinda forgot .. :|
[03:13] <llutz> HayaBusa: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[03:13] <whippy> with "su -" you have more rights than with "su" ?
[03:13] <HayaBusa> thanks
[03:14] <sweettooth> hi, does anyone know how to remote desktop to xp from kubuntu?
[03:14] <llutz> whippy: no, "su -" is login and reads roots environment
[03:15] <whippy> what does this mean? reads root environments?
[03:15] <_and> jhutchins: That's because I don't have any idea what is that SUDO for.... I've never used in any other linux distro, because you can always loogin as root
[03:15] <llutz> whippy: if you use "su" to change user, you'll use your users-environment (pathes, alias etc.), with "su -" you use roots env
[03:15] <whippy> @ _and i thought the same
[03:15] <whippy> you enter "su"
[03:15] <jhutchins> !sudo | _and Consider reading this
[03:15] <ubotu> _and Consider reading this: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:16] <whippy> @IIlutz
[03:16] <whippy> thats a little bit strange cause when i use "su"
[03:16] <whippy> and log in,
[03:16] <whippy> and make "cd tilde
[03:16] <^peter^> and_ so running as root you cannot run mount?
[03:16] <HayaBusa> i installed phpmyadmin.. as well as mysql , why i can not use my root / pass to gain access to phpmyadmin. i keep getting access denied :|
[03:16] <whippy> i get to /root
[03:17] <whippy> this means for me, with "su" i also have the root environment?
[03:17] <jhutchins> whippy: Try it with the dash.
[03:17] <jhutchins> whippy: No.
[03:17] <llutz> whippy: sure, you are root then. but e.g your PATH still is the PATH of your user (if it differs)
[03:17] <whippy> dash?
[03:17] <whippy> i only use bash?
[03:17] <jhutchins> whippy: You do not have root's path or other environment variables.
[03:17] <whippy> i know there are more shells...
[03:17] <jhutchins> whippy: Actually, you use dash if you are in a console on *buntu.
[03:17] <jhutchins> whippy: ...unless you've reconfigured the system.
[03:18] <whippy> in ubuntu it isnt the bash? its called dash? cause its another console?
[03:18] <whippy> no i haven't reconfigured,
[03:18] <whippy> i use kubuntu...
[03:18] <whippy> not gnome...
[03:18] <jhutchins> Yeah, I know this information isn't really obviously available, but so it goes.
[03:18] <whippy> desktop
[03:19] <jhutchins> whippy: Generally you don't find out it's dash until a bash script screws up.
[03:19] <whippy> and whats the fine diffrence between bash and dash?
[03:19] <_and> Ok.... "sudo mkdir /mnt/sda" "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda" work fine.... now I can see something in /mnt... but when I am trying to open it it says the same thing : "you don't have enough permissions to read /mnt/sda"
[03:20] <llutz> whippy: dash is PSOIX conform
[03:20] <whippy> i realized, that vi does not exist...
[03:20] <llutz> POSIX sry
[03:20] <jhutchins> _and: Right, you've mounted it as root, The Powers That Be believe you should only access it as root.
[03:20] <whippy> i had to use "editor"
[03:20] <jhutchins> !floppy | _and
[03:20] <ubotu> _and: To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[03:21] <jhutchins> _and: Same info applies to all devices.
[03:21] <_and> jhutchins: But I can't login as root....
[03:21] <whippy> @jhutchings is there a kind of command to make a usb bootable.
[03:21] <jhutchins> _and: Right.
[03:21] <whippy> like on win sys a:
[03:21] <jhutchins> whippy: Depends on your bios, bootable USB's are easy (but I don't have the details handy).
[03:22] <whippy> its ok
[03:23] <jhutchins> _and: If you read the thing about floppies it says how to set up a device so it's readable by all.
[03:27] <_and> jhutchins: is it correct that I should write something like "/dev/sda /media/sda  auto rw,users,noauto,fmask=111,dmask=000  0   0" then... because in /etc/fstab there is nothing like /dev/blablabla that I can replace as it's explained in there
[03:28] <_and> jhutchins: I only have two lines in fstab: something about unionfs and tmpfs
[03:30] <Schuenemann> hey, can anyone help me playing mids?
[03:32] <_and> ubotu: thanx, now it's sort of mounted... but I can't open it (have no rights)
[03:32] <_and> ubotu: thanx, now it's sort of mounted... but I can't open it (have no rights)
[03:33] <angasule> why is .xinitrc not run when I start a session? what does kubuntu use instead?
[03:34] <_and> jhutchins: even more, it's not just that it doesn't see scsi and ide. It doesn't see an extarnal USB drives either.
[03:35] <_and> and does anybody knows HOW TO LOGIN as ROOT in kubuntu (in LiveCD mode I mean)?
[03:35] <angasule> _and: use "sudo su" to get a root shell
[03:35] <BluesKaj> sudo su in the terminal
[03:36] <angasule> _and: in kubuntu the root account has no password set, so you can't log in directly, you have to use sudo
[03:37] <_and> angasule : I don't need root shell.... I need installer to see my drives
[03:37] <jimbob_> can anyone help me with a cursor problem please ?
[03:37] <_and> in root shell I can see it and access it, that's ok
[03:38] <_and> but how can I run installer under root then?
[03:39] <angasule> _and: I don't quite follow you, when you try to install you can't see the hard drive?
[03:45] <grul> hey, is there a way i can remove all files in one directory that exists in another?
[03:45] <NightBird> yes...
[03:45] <NightBird> and if you mean automatically, then probably so, but I wouldn't know how
[03:46] <grul> i mean with a command
[03:46] <grul> like check for duplicates and remove all duplicates
[03:46] <_and> angasule: ok... it seems thare more than one problem. First, when I launch it in LiveCD mode and open "System Menu->Storage Media" I see nothing
[03:47] <grul> well, the livecd runs on a ROM disk, so it's not that strange
[03:47] <_and> angasule: When I go to /mnt - I see nothing.... nigher of my scsi, ide nor USB drives
[03:47] <angasule> _and: in LiveCD mode it doesn't use your hard drive, to avoid any problems
[03:47] <NightBird> hm...
[03:47] <angasule> _and: so far, what you are describing is *correct* behaviour
[03:47] <danya_> hello
[03:47] <angasule> danya_: howdy
[03:48] <danya_> guys I have a problem with Beryl
[03:48] <danya_> if anyone can help me :)
[03:48] <Schuenemann> How can I play MID files?
[03:48] <angasule> _and: why do you want to use the hard drive from the LiveCD?
[03:48] <angasule> !MIDI | Schuenemann
[03:48] <ubotu> Schuenemann: Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[03:48] <_and> angasule: how is that correct? The fact that I don't see neigher of my drives is correct?
[03:49] <Schuenemann> angasule, that wiki is outdated
[03:49] <angasule> Schuenemann: bummer, then, with my limited experience, I'd say you should install timidity
[03:49] <Schuenemann> that part is ok, but the part that tell to install other samples is outdated
[03:50] <_and> angasule: I don't actually need it, but Installer doesn't see it either... that's the problem
[03:50] <danya_> I've installed beryl and only used it for 2 days and then ! it stopped woking ! .. s oI installed compiz-fusion .. and it doesnt run ..
[03:50] <angasule> _and: yes, the LiveCD is just to see if things work, and then you can install with the 'install' icon in the desktop
[03:50] <angasule> _and: oh, you try to install and it can't find a hard drive? that's a problem yes :/
[03:50] <angasule> danya_: did you uninstall beryl before installing compiz-fusion?
[03:51] <danya_> I did autoremove beryl
[03:51] <danya_> but I can still see the icon of beryl on the desktop
[03:51] <angasule> anyway, compiz-fusion is alpha software
[03:51] <seezer> hi there. is anyone using gutsy with fglrx xorg driver here?
[03:52] <danya_> angasule: ok do u know how can I fix beryl ?
[03:52] <angasule> danya_: you should ask in #compiz , I guess
[03:52] <angasule> danya_: not really
[03:52] <danya_> thank u .. :)
[03:52] <angasule> np
[03:52] <seezer> kaffeine(-xine) crashes on any media while it works fine with the vesa xorg-driver.
[03:52] <angasule> so can anyone tell me why .xinitrc is ignored?
[03:53] <angasule> seezer: what driver are you /currently/ using?
[03:53] <seezer> fglrx
[03:53] <angasule> ah, I don't deal with ATI
[03:54] <seezer> lucky one ;)
[03:56] <alie> hallo
[03:56] <julien> Good afternoon
[03:56] <julien> (re)
[03:58] <julien> Please, I did something dramatic. I was developping a web site in php with Quanta. The directory was /home/user/docs. And there was a temp/ folder in docs. I used to delete tmp files using rm -rf * in temp. And today, I forgot I was in docs and deleted all my web site :(
[03:58] <jhutchins> angasule: It's not - if you run straight X.
[03:58] <julien> I tried recover but it found nothing
[03:59] <angasule> jhutchins: so for kde what should I use? scripts dumped in .kde/Autostart ? any other place?
[03:59] <jhutchins> julien: No, you won't.  ext3 zeros out the table when you delete stuff.
[03:59] <jhutchins> angasule: Yeah, try that.
[03:59] <angasule> ok, thanks, bye
[04:00] <julien> jhutchins: does it mean that I won't be able to undo my rm command ?
[04:00] <jhutchins> julien: Yes, that's what it means.
[04:00] <julien> oooow :(
[04:01] <julien> And if I plug my hard drive in a Windows computer and try something like Norton Utiliies ?
[04:02] <seezer> julien: this really depends on the filesystem. not on the tools.
[04:02] <julien> I don't know what is my file system, I use Feisty Fawn
[04:03] <Ryaren> I configured my TV-out by the xorg.conf file but I always got the same error message: (EE) NVIDIA(1): Unable to find available Display Devices for screen 1.
[04:03] <moshea> hi again, I ran out of disk space while installing a large package, I'd like to roll back and remove some unused packages but the broken package is stopping me from doing that ... what can I do ? I've tried numerous things with apt-get but with no success
[04:03] <Ryaren> It seems it can't identify my tv-out interface...
[04:05] <pag> moshea, you could try " sudo apt-get clean "  it'll remove installation packages - that usually frees up ~100MB of space
[04:06] <hx> hi,all! who can tell me what's best blog writer under ubuntu?
[04:08] <moshea> pag: I think I've done that but I'll try again
[04:08] <pag> hx, a blog writer? what it should do?
[04:09] <julien> This is an ext3 partition
[04:09] <wolferine> hx write one yourself using php :)
[04:09] <Schuenemann> php sucks
[04:09] <hx> you can write blogs and post save and post them  to you  blog website
[04:10] <hx> write an online one?:)
[04:11] <pag> hx, umm.. as far as I know every decent blogging site provides an online interface for things like that. I might be wrong though, never used any of those myself,
[04:12] <Ryaren> so sby can help me?
[04:13] <Ryaren> do u thin if I change my driver to 97xx it will work?
[04:17] <hx> to pag: you can save your posts offline and post them to many blogging site at the same time, there are some dif from online blog editor ,:)
[04:19] <jhutchins> julien: Deleted is deleted on ext3.
[04:19] <julien> I'm trying grep...
[04:19] <jhutchins> julien: The system writes zeros over the file table.
[04:20] <jhutchins> julien: Really, they're gone.
[04:20] <wimpies> My bluetooth does not want to startup.  I get a box stating sdpd is not running.  I cannot even find the sdpd program.  What package should I install ?
[04:20] <pag> hx, for kde there's only kicker-kblogger, but for GTK there seem to be more, ie. blogtk and gnome-blog
[04:20] <julien> Rrr I spent an entiere week to code this website
[04:24] <jhutchins> julien: Backups.
[04:24] <jhutchins> I made a mistake in a find ... exec command that deleted about 30 websites on a client's server once.  Fortunately he had backups.
[04:25] <moshea> is it possible with a kubuntu setup to completely remove the GNOME desktop manager ?
[04:25] <julien> I'm bored, one week wasted. I don't want to restart from zero. I'll install a phpnuke :(
[04:25] <moshea> I think I tried once and it destroyed my whole setup
[04:26] <pag> moshea, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde <- here are the instructions on removing Gnome. Use at your own risk.
[04:27] <pag> moshea, those *should* work, but I'm not 100% sure as I never tried those myself
[04:27] <jhutchins> moshea: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Uninstall_ubuntu-desktop
[04:28] <matthew_> is there a way in k3b to copy 30GB worth of files in dvd size incriminates with out compressing them
[04:28] <matthew_> kind of an auto organize and burn function
[04:30] <jhutchins> matthew_: You'd think one of the backup programs might do that.
[04:30] <jhutchins> matthew_: Let us know if you find out.
[04:32] <BluesKaj> matthew_, the only way i can visualize it , is to dragndrop the individual folders while keeping track of them and watching the filesizebar grow to dvd size
[04:35] <matthew_> I have done that before was hoping there was a shortcut
[04:37] <BluesKaj> matthew_,, there may be an app out there that looks at file/folder sizes and organizes them for dvd data burning but i haven't heard of one , yet
[04:40] <ubuntu_> hi all, i have an easy question about partitioning in ubuntu install, anyone helping? thnx!
[04:41] <ubuntu_> well here it is: i already partitioned and formatted my hd before booting the install cd, but ubuntu doesn't let me choose those partitions in the automated installation
[04:42] <ubuntu_> is there any manual way to do that?
[04:42] <Blissex> ubuntu_: have they got the right type? The manual way should ''just work''.
[04:42] <ubuntu_> yeah, one vfat in case i want to install windows in the future, one swap and one ext3
[04:43] <varaonaid> hi, i finally installed kubuntu after trying numerous other distros and i love it!
[04:44] <ubuntu_> btw, i had to partition with cfdisk because partitioning from the install menu didn't work
[04:44] <ubuntu_> i chose to create a 400G partition and i got a 40G partition instead, dunno why
[04:44] <varaonaid> i have a couple of quick questions... how do i get the power manager daemon to not run at startup?  i installed kpowersave and prefer it but don't want both running
[04:44] <BluesKaj> ubuntu , don't use the auto partitoner, you've already done that , use the guided install
[04:45] <ubuntu_> ok i'll  try that right now
[04:45] <jhutchins_lt> ubuntu_: The alternate install CD is more flexible about that.
[04:46] <ubuntu_> yeah jhutchins_lt maybe that's better for me, i've used debian for years and i'm not used to the "windows" way of installing
[04:47] <ubuntu_> i prefer to have more control over the installation
[04:48] <Sanne> ubuntu_: I always partitioned first and used the alternate CD to install, I can recommend it also.
[04:48] <ubuntu_> BluesKaj: it seems guided install will automatically format my hd
[04:48] <BluesKaj> ubuntu_, it's the way we convert windows users to kubuntu ...they expect a gui driven interface
[04:48] <ubuntu_> i see... i think i'm getting the alternate cd, better for me...
[04:50] <BluesKaj> dunno I used the regular live cd to install and just chose the ext partition without a prob without any formatting
[04:51] <BluesKaj> I had partitoned and formatted to ext previously of course , dunno why it doesn't recognize the formatted ext partition
[04:51] <ubuntu_> BluesKaj: my partitioning is already done but when i edit the root partition to change the mount point to / it says the partition is bigger than it's volume
[04:52] <varaonaid> is kubuntu setup to run dual core processors seperately?  i've noticed that mine seem to run together all the time
[04:52] <ubuntu_> it recognizes the partition as ext3 with mount point /media/sda1, so i have to change the mount point to /, and there is the problem
[04:52] <ubuntu_> my hd is 500GB, guess that's not a problem right?
[04:53] <Ryaren> Somebody use TV-out on its computer?
[04:54] <Ryaren> to watch movie, playing with games etc..
[04:55] <Sanne> varaonaid: I think it depends on the application. When I run glxgears, for example, only one of my processors shows heavy load. The system swaps then the cpu from time to time.
[04:56] <varaonaid> Sanne: so as far as you know, it should be setup to manage them seperately out of the box?
[04:58] <Sanne> varaonaid: I guess so, I think the kernel manages that. My processor is an AMD 64 X2 3800+, btw
[04:59] <varaonaid> ok, mine is an intel dual core...
[04:59] <varaonaid> Sanne: thanks!
[04:59] <Sanne> varaonaid: you're welcome :)
[04:59] <varaonaid> :)
[04:59] <Blissex> varaonaid: different programs can use different CPUs, only a few programs can use both.
[05:00] <Blissex> varaonaid: especially with GUIs there are lots of processes running, so both CPUs get used even if there are few programs that can use both at the same time.
[05:00] <varaonaid> Blissex: ok, i didn't realize that... i was just going by the info on the power manager in the task bar (which i'm trying to figure out how to remove)
[05:00] <varaonaid> thanks for the information!
[05:00] <varaonaid> that helps
[05:01] <msetim> Hi friends
[05:01] <Ryaren> Somebody use TV-out on your computer to watch movie playing games etc?
[05:05] <penguin42> does anyone else here use nspluginwrapper with konqueror on x86-64 ?  I find it works but is a bit touchy
[05:05] <labrat265> Would anyone mind giving a newbie a little tech support?  I've been trying to fix the k3b mp3 error.  I've looked all over the forums and cannot figure out how to get synaptic.
[05:05] <HayaBusa> how can i install MP3 SUPPORT for AMAROK ?
[05:05] <BluesKaj> !mp3
[05:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:05] <arun> !opera
[05:05] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[05:06] <MetaBookfoziS> hi all, has anybody a working proftpd? Mine eats up my cpu with only one transfer, does anybody know, why?
[05:06] <omeow> Hey there.
[05:07] <omeow> When a computer gets upgraded from edgy to feisty, does it reboot without user interaction?
[05:07] <BluesKaj> HayaBusa, sudo aptitude install libxine-extracodecs
[05:07] <omeow> I wasn't paying attention to my screen, and it rebooted in the upgrade process.
[05:07] <penguin42> omeow: I _think_ it displays a dialogue for the upgrade
[05:07] <omeow> Yeah, that it does.
[05:07] <HayaBusa> thanks, will give that a try
[05:08] <omeow> But I don't know if it actually reboots the thing.
[05:08] <labrat265> Anyone know how I can get synaptic?
[05:08] <penguin42> nod - I thought it would ask
[05:08] <varaonaid> labrat265: the synaptic program?
[05:08] <pag> labrat265, sudo apt-get install synaptic  ?
[05:09] <BluesKaj> labrat265, sudo apt-get install libk3b2-mp3
[05:09] <varaonaid> varaonaid: or use adept and search for synaptic, then install
[05:09] <labrat265> In the console right?  (I'm a noob.)
[05:09] <BluesKaj> yup
[05:10] <labrat265> Thanks, I'll try that.
[05:15] <azzco> Hi I've got a kde specific question, I want one application to be able to "cover" the panel (fullscreen) how do I specify it?
[05:17] <SkorpKing> what appplication?
[05:18] <labrat265> Haha!  I am not that much of a noob.  I should have found that in Adept.  It happened to be in the one category I didn't look.
[05:18] <pag> azzco, right-click on a titlebar, and navigate advanced -> Fullscreen
[05:19] <azzco> Yes but is there someway to set it initially on startup?
[05:19] <labrat265> Thanks pag.
[05:19] <azzco> SkorpKing: wined fullscreen game
[05:20] <BluesKaj> labrat265, I've found Google-Linux to be very handy for a lot of issues, http://www.google.com/linux
[05:20] <StFS> has anyone experienced major unstability with firefox on kubuntu feisty?
[05:20] <wolferine> change any FF settings?
[05:21] <BluesKaj> StFS, not even minor instability here ...what's it doing ?
[05:21] <penguin42> StFS: I'm running firefox on kubuntu but mostly under Gnome and it's OK; Java kills it
[05:21] <StFS> looks like it is somehow associated with flash but I have added export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1
[05:21] <StFS> BluesKaj: crashing
[05:21] <StFS> BluesKaj: segfaulting
[05:21] <SkorpKing> azzco: wine games usually work in fullscreen. it has to be set in the game. if you have kooldock running it will still show though.
[05:22] <wolferine> maybe join the mozilla server?
[05:22] <wolferine> and troubleshoot with the staff there
[05:22] <StFS> wolferine: well... yes... but then I removed it, removed my settings directory and reinstalled it... same thing
[05:22] <jhutchins_lt> StFS: Yeah, especially when I use the history functions.
[05:22] <penguin42> StFS:  Is it only firefox or other gnome apps as well?
[05:22] <wolferine> i see
[05:22] <StFS> penguin42: only firefox that I've noticed
[05:22] <jhutchins_lt> ... Since about 1994.
[05:23] <BluesKaj> StFS, maybe removing what you added and using the plugin's install guides might help
[05:23] <wolferine> well, im sure over at irc.mozilla.com (or .org or .net) they will help you with it
[05:23] <StFS> BluesKaj: as I said... I removed it (purged it even) and removed my settings dir... installed from scratch and it's exactly the same
[05:24] <penguin42> StFS: Hohum probably not what I was thinking of (the gtk-qt-engine stuff); but I'm curious what is the XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS thing you speak of ?
[05:24] <arun> Is there a way that i can anti alias all fonts except monotype?
[05:24] <StFS> penguin42: something for fixing instability with the flash plugin
[05:25] <penguin42> StFS: Interesting - I could do with making flash stable (I'm running it through nspluginwrapper so it's not exactly stable but that's probably the wrapper)
[05:25] <StFS> penguin42: but I think it has something to do with something like GLX or some more advanced functionality (transparency or something)... so I really shouldn't need it even
[05:25] <StFS> penguin42: ok... I'm using the nonfree flash plugin from adobe
[05:26] <penguin42> StFS: Ditto, but I'm running the 32 bit nonfree on a 64 bit machine using the nspluginwrapper
[05:26] <StFS> ok
[05:26] <penguin42> StFS: When it dies does it put anything in .xsession-errors ?
[05:27] <arun> anyone?
[05:27] <StFS> penguin42: figures... I searched high and low for some log file that might contain something... never thought of this
[05:28] <StFS> penguin42: I'll try to check that out
[05:30] <stepz_> I need some help debugging amarok and kaffeine crashes, amarok crashes on startup, kaffeine when I start a video. both backtraces point to some symbol in libxine.so.1
[05:31] <stepz_> crashes seemed to have started after a kernel module upgrade a week or two ago
[05:31] <stepz_> using feisty + kde 3.5.7 and amarok 1.4.6
[05:31] <penguin42> stepz_: amarok uses xine to play stuff; you might try starting the plain xine front end; or deleting all your .xine files
[05:31] <jhutchins_lt> stepz_: Can you prevent them by using the older kernel?
[05:31] <jhutchins_lt> stepz_: Yeah, clearning .xine is safe.
[05:32] <stepz_> I'll try rm -rf ~/.xine then
[05:33] <stepz_> ok that worked
[05:33] <stepz_> thanks
[05:33] <arun> Is there a way that i can anti-alias all fonts except monotype?
[05:33] <arun> because monotype fonts look like crap when they're all smooth
[05:35] <stepz_> may this crash be caused by a disk full situation corrupting catalog.cache?
[05:36] <stepz_> and if so should this knowledge be recorded somewhere in relation to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FullFilesystemSanityGutsy
[05:36] <jhutchins_lt> stepz_: Yeah, full disk can cause all sorts of problems.
[05:37] <hx> thanks,pad
[05:37] <hx> thank you ,pag
[05:38] <pag> hx, np :)
[05:39] <hx> pag,have you a msn id?
[05:40] <pag> hx, I have, but I don't share it in public. sorry.
[05:40] <msetim> Where can I found the driver to printer HP Deskjet 1310
[05:40] <qlr> hello
[05:40] <hx> :),i am not registed, so i have to post the message here
[05:41] <msetim> Sorry, I already found the correct driver. It's called PSC 1310 :-D
[05:42] <pag> hx, I didn't mean that I wouldn't like to post it here, it's just that I prefer to share it only to those I know personally :)
[05:43] <hx> it doesn't matter,:)
[05:44] <jhutchins_lt> !register
[05:44] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[05:44] <qlr> so hello, i like have a question.....
[05:44] <pag> !ask | qlr
[05:44] <ubotu> qlr: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:45] <qlr> :)
[05:45] <qlr> so i dowloaded a kubuntu iso
[05:45] <qlr> burnd on a cd
[05:45] <qlr> booted from it
[05:45] <vzduch> !enter | qlr
[05:45] <ubotu> qlr: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:45] <qlr> and there waz no gui
[05:46] <os2mac> qlr: did you checksum the ISO?
[05:46] <dr_willis> Black screen , and just a mouse pointer?
[05:46] <qlr> yup, it's ok
[05:46] <penguin42> or old school text?
[05:46] <os2mac> sounds like a driver detection issue
[05:46] <qlr> yep
[05:46] <dr_willis> yep to what....
[05:46] <qlr> i have a 6600GT, maybe it's that the problem?
[05:47] <qlr> dr_willis: i belive to be the driver to
[05:47] <dr_willis> If you are getting a X display/black screen with mouse pointer - that could be one thing..If X isent even starting. thats another thing...
[05:47] <HayaBusa> is there a way to make my mouse wheel work with linux ???
[05:47] <dr_willis> HayaBusa,  mine always work fine.
[05:47] <HayaBusa> i can scroll up and down , but other feature wont work
[05:47] <qlr> dr_willis: i have pink and yellow and green and whatnot colors all over the screen
[05:47] <dr_willis> HayaBusa,  then it is working. :)
[05:48] <HayaBusa> thanks
[05:48] <dr_willis> qlr,  so you jhave a garbled screen
[05:48] <dr_willis> HayaBusa,  theres a gentoo wiki i saw that detailed all sorts of extra mouse button features.. but ive never used them.
[05:48] <HayaBusa> alos, to have openGL on my system , do i have to install NVIDIA DRIVER ?
[05:48] <hx> qlr, you can type some command then you can continue,
[05:48] <dr_willis> not sure if the kubuntu/ubuntu wiki pages are covering that topic.
[05:48] <qlr> dr_willis: i have
[05:48] <labrat265> Does anyone know a good link to advice on getting sound in kubuntu?
[05:49] <qlr> hx: some commands? where? what commands?
[05:49] <pag> labrat265, iirc Kubuntu installs with mixer set to zero, so have you checked that?
[05:50] <dr_willis> !alsa
[05:50] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:50] <labrat265> No, but I will right now.
[05:52] <qlr> dr_willis: still here?
[05:53] <dr_willis> In and out all day - thats how i am.. wife is always yelling at me.
[05:53] <dr_willis> qlr,  if you are seeing stuff. and its garbled. That may be sign the monitor settings are incorrect.
[05:53] <dr_willis> You got a LCD or CRT monitor?
[05:53] <labrat265> Thanks again, pag.  turns out that I still have it set to zero and need mp3 support for amarok.
[05:53] <qlr> CRT, eizo flex scan t67 to be precise
[05:54] <BluesKaj> !libxine-extracodecs | labrat265
[05:55] <BluesKaj> !extracodecs
[05:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about extracodecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:55] <pag> !mp3
[05:55] <BluesKaj> hmm
[05:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:56] <BluesKaj> yeah, i already suggested that , pag...but ppl ignore that advice for some reson
[05:56] <SkorpKing> i have a huawei e220 hdspa usb modem, but can't get it to work on kubuntu. google links not helping. dmesg | tail shows that it is on /dev/ttyUSB0.
[05:59] <dr_willis> qlr,  this is the live cd you are tyring to use.. Hmm. Not sure how to force it to try lower resolutions. I always use the alternative install cd, with the text based installer.
[06:00] <qlr> dr_willis: thx, i (hopefully) will return :)
[06:01] <BluesKaj> SkorpKing, http://www.linux.ie/articles/tutorials/threeirelandUSBmodem.php
[06:01] <labrat265> Thanks BluesKaj and pag.  You two have helped me resolve the last of my Kubuntu issues.  Now, I can enjoy my operating system.
[06:01] <pag> labrat265, yw :)
[06:01] <omeow> I just installed Kubuntu, how do I turn off the bouncing cursor, I can't find it in the system settings.
[06:01] <labrat265> Now, I can enjoy some Old Crow Medicine Show.
[06:02] <pag> omeow, alt-f2 and type kcontrol
[06:02] <SkorpKing> BluesKaj: thanks. will check it out.
[06:02] <omeow> What's this, pag? Another sort of system settings?
[06:02] <pag> omeow, yup. but much better if you ask me :)
[06:03] <omeow> But why's there two and why does kcontrol include an option to turn off the bouncing cursor?
[06:03] <omeow> And the system settings one doesn't.
[06:03] <pag> omeow, System Settings is supposed to be easier to use, but it doesn't have all the features
[06:03] <pag> omeow, Appearance.. -> Launch Feedback
[06:03] <hx> pag,how old are u, can you share it?
[06:03] <hx> :)
[06:04] <hx> and i am in china, where r u?
[06:04] <pag> hx, 16 :) And please, offtopic in either #ubuntu-offtopic or #kubuntu-offtopic
[06:04] <jhutchins_lt> omeow: I thought that was under desktop config, right-click the desktop.
[06:05] <anmol> what is the easiest way to play avis on ubuntu?
[06:05] <omeow> jhutchins, don't see it there.
[06:06] <omeow> I was looking under mouse options.
[06:06] <pag> anmol, install w32codecs (afaik)
[06:06] <BluesKaj> anmol, buy an xbox :)
[06:06] <omeow> Seems the logical place to put such an option.
[06:06] <anmol> how do you play .avi in ubuntu?
[06:06] <dr_willis> anmol,  i just clik on them. :)
[06:06] <BluesKaj> VLC, anmol
[06:06] <anmol> ok thanks
[06:06] <hx> pag's correct
[06:06] <dr_willis> vlc, xine, mplayer,  others....
[06:06] <hx> vlc works,too
[06:07] <hx> i  like vlc,
[06:08] <dr_willis> vlc is handy
[06:08] <anmol>  does anyone know how i can play embedded windows media files that are in firefox?
[06:09] <hx> pag, can you tell me how to handle the error  message: su returns an error after i click the administration tool in kubuntu system setting?
[06:09] <jhutchins_lt> anmol: install the mplayer pluggin.
[06:09] <anmol> i tried
[06:09] <anmol> didnt work
[06:09] <anmol> do you know of a guide?
[06:09] <jhutchins_lt> anmol: Did you scan for pluggins?  Does it show?  Can you download the video and play it?
[06:10] <jhutchins_lt> !mp3 | anmol: It's in here:
[06:10] <ubotu> anmol: It's in here:: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:10] <anmol> how i scan for plugins?
[06:11] <pag> hx, use kcontrol :)  Sorry, but I gave up on System Settings a while ago, so I don't even know how do they work / supposed to work
[06:11] <jhutchins_lt> anmol: It's in the preferences menu.
[06:11] <anmol> ok. i will try the mplayer plugin
[06:12] <hx> after i run command in konsole:#kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:12] <hx> it pops:Su returned with an error
[06:12] <hx> who can help me,thks
[06:13] <pag> o_O  hx, are you sure taht the password entered is correct one?
[06:13] <hx> pag:i  have no change to type the password
[06:14] <hx> i juuuuuuuuu st pops a window after i type enter
[06:14] <pag> hx, try to launch that command via alt-f2  ( kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list )
[06:15] <BluesKaj> anmol, on some sites mplayer doesn't work well with avi files, but I've found the gxineplugin for mozilla to be the best
[06:15] <hx> i tried , the same question
[06:16] <pag> hx, so what is an exact error-message?
[06:16] <hx> Su returned with an error.
[06:16] <hx> that's the full message
[06:16] <jhutchins_lt> hx try sudo ls
[06:17] <hx> already
[06:17] <jhutchins_lt> hx: Anything happened to the system, configuring security, installing something?
[06:18] <hx> i've changed kdesu to sudo, nothing happened, i mean have no pop window
[06:19] <jhutchins_lt> hx: Does sudo return the same error?
[06:19] <hx> no, have no pop window, and no error info
[06:19] <hx> kate doesn't work
[06:19] <hx> it's strang
[06:19] <jhutchins_lt> hx: what does sudo ls return?
[06:20] <jhutchins_lt> hx: Should be in a console.
[06:20] <hx> yes, it returns nothing
[06:21] <jhutchins_lt> Hrmn.  Let me do some research on this...
[06:21] <tealson> hello, how do i configure the bluetooth service? (the password for the conenction)
[06:22] <BluesKaj> !bluetooth
[06:22] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[06:22] <marco__> oi, to com um problema no kubuntu feisty. Algum pode ajudar ?
[06:22] <hx> my root password is blank, single mode cannot login to x
[06:22] <hx> who can help me? Only reinstall the os?
[06:22] <BluesKaj> !pt | marco__
[06:22] <ubotu> marco__: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[06:22] <pag> hx, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-99780.html  try that
[06:22] <jhutchins_lt> hx: Be patient
[06:23] <jhutchins_lt> hx: Does visudo work (inconsole)?
[06:23] <hx> jh,parden?
[06:23] <tealson> ubotu: well but i want to connect from my mobile to the laptop, i can find the laptop on my mobile but there is no explenation on how to configure the password
[06:23] <fyrmedic> What file is the default gateway stored in?
[06:23] <pag> hx, enter command visudo in console
[06:23] <pag> !ubotu | tealson
[06:23] <ubotu> tealson: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:24] <HayaBusa> any Hotmail notifier ? something to stay in tray and look for new emails ?
[06:24] <BluesKaj> HayaBusa, goto hotmail to find out
[06:25] <HayaBusa> if you can not help out.. you can keep your sarcazems to yourself
[06:25] <pwilson> Could someone tell me how to uninstall beryl core 0.3.0 and install beryl-core 0.2.0
[06:25] <pag> !beryl | pwilson
[06:25] <ubotu> pwilson: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:25] <BluesKaj> not sarcasm HayaBusa , it's the best way to findout about hotmail services for linux
[06:25] <jhutchins_lt> HayaBusa: Not wise to be rude when asking for help.
[06:26] <griffjon> I'm having problems with kde-window-decorator (KWD) crashing a lot when I try to do anything fancy; I'm using compiz indirect rendering and Feisty; it was working fine in Edgy
[06:26] <pwilson> I haven't been geting any responce in #effects, no one seems to be able to help with this one, it seems like a simple issue, just installing a previos version.
[06:26] <griffjon> similar problem to this,which seems to be a common, unsolved problem: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kwin&m=117473269714777&w=2
[06:26] <hx> visudo:permission denied
[06:27] <jhutchins_lt> hx: cat /etc/hosts
[06:27] <hx> cat /etc/hosts
[06:27] <hx> 127.0.0.1 localhost
[06:27] <hx> 127.0.1.1 matrix
[06:27] <hx> # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
[06:27] <pwilson> alright, could someone just tell me how to install and old version of anything? how do I roll back an app?
[06:28] <pag> pwilson, afaik there's an option for it in Synaptic (I'm not sure about adept)
[06:28] <jhutchins_lt> pwilson: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto
[06:28] <TeraDyne> pwilson: I saw something in the Beryl wiki. Let me check...
[06:28] <jhutchins_lt> hx: Have you recently restarted your system?
[06:28] <pwilson> Thanks much.
[06:29] <hx> yes,many times,:)
[06:30] <hx> i am puzzled about this problems for hours today,:(
[06:30] <BluesKaj> pwilson, which app ?
[06:30] <pwilson> beryl-core
[06:30] <mike__> Greets, everyone...
[06:30] <BluesKaj> oh ,,,eyecandy
[06:31] <pwilson> Trying to get from 0.3.0 to 0.2.0
[06:31] <jhutchins_lt> hx: What does the command "groups" return in console?
[06:31] <BluesKaj> i quit fooling with beryl ...I'm too dumb or uninformed to make it work :)
[06:31] <pwilson> Its useful eyecandy, anything I can do to convert the masses from vista.
[06:32] <mike__> Can someone help me with getting a (very old) PCI sound card installed? It appears to be recognized from looking at KMix and the Sound System system settings module, but I'm not getting any sound out of it.
[06:32] <jhutchins_lt> BluesKaj: Making beryl work is largely a matter of luck.
[06:32] <pwilson> lol
[06:32] <hx> adm dialout cdrom floppy sudo audio video plugdev scanner lpadmin
[06:32] <pwilson> Lol.
[06:32] <hx> i already add current usr to admin and sudo
[06:32] <hx> group
[06:32] <TeraDyne> pwilson: "apt-get install beryl-core=0.2.0~0beryl1"
[06:32] <pwilson> yeah, I've gotten it to work on some machines, in some distros.  never seen it work in ubuntu.
[06:33] <TeraDyne> pwilson: got it from here > http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=555247
[06:33] <jhutchins_lt> hx: It sounds like something's corrupted on your system.
[06:33] <BluesKaj> jhutchins , I get beryl installed and the emarald mager etc are there but they don't do anything ...just sits there :)
[06:33] <zerozero> i somehow broke my kernel.  my machine won't boot so I have downloaded a fresh install CD and I am booted off of the livecd to get here
[06:33] <pwilson> oh thank god... lol, thanks very much.
[06:33] <BluesKaj> manager
[06:33] <jhutchins_lt> hx: You're right, a clean install might be better than trying to track everything down.
[06:33] <Ray-Kubuntu> hello whats the run command to excute Konqeuror
[06:33] <pag> Ray-Kubuntu, konqueror
[06:33] <hx> the problem is i cannot reinstall or update something without root permission,:(
[06:34] <zerozero> but I don't know how to put a new kernel in my old boot partition
[06:34] <pag> Ray-Kubuntu, believe it or not, thos commands are usually the sam as app-name, only in lowecase
[06:34] <jhutchins_lt> hx: Yeah, that's what I mean.
[06:34] <hx> thks Jh,you are so kind,:)
[06:34] <pwilson> Ack. E: Version '0.2.0~0beryl' for 'beryl-core' was not found
[06:34] <mike__> Ray-Kubuntu: You can always open KMenuEdit (run command: kmenuedit) to find the command for any program that's in it also. ;-)
[06:35] <pwilson> I guess 0.2.0 is no longer avalible.
[06:35] <TeraDyne> pwilson: hold on and let me dive into the repos.
[06:35] <pwilson> Thanks again.
[06:35] <mike__> pwilson: Have you tried Fusion yet?
[06:35] <pwilson> Ehh? No, what is fusion?
[06:35] <enry> yelp i have a problme with kde
[06:35] <mike__> pwilson: Compiz-Fusion, the product of the re-merge
[06:36] <enry> i changed a system sound and now it's notifing me for everything
[06:36] <pwilson> Huh, no I havent. Does it still use emerald
[06:36] <pwilson> ?
[06:36] <mike__> Yep
[06:36] <enry> with the KNotify allert icon
[06:36] <pwilson> Hmmm, I'll give it a shot.
[06:36] <enry> how to return to the standard configuration?
[06:36] <mike__> pwilson: You can also use a different decorator that uses KWin as well though
[06:37] <mike__> pwilson: Trevino's repository is where you'd want to get it from. Need the URL?
[06:37] <TeraDyne> pwilson: You were using the ubuntu.beryl-project.org repo, weren't you?
[06:38] <pwilson> Yes please for the url.
[06:38] <mike__> http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/index.html
[06:38] <mike__> Can someone help me with getting a (very old) PCI sound card installed? It appears to be recognized from looking at KMix and the Sound System system settings module, but I'm not getting any sound out of it.
[06:39] <pwilson> thanks.
[06:39] <TeraDyne> pwilson: good luck with compiz-Fusion. I've heard it's better than beryl.
[06:39] <mike__> pwilson: NP
[06:39] <BluesKaj> jhutchins_lt, , maybe i should explain it better : I get beryl installed and the emarald manager etc are there, but they don't do anything, there are no executable options, even in the login menu .
[06:39] <pwilson> I'll try both.
[06:39] <zerozero> how do I get to my old boot dir and reinstall the kernel?
[06:40] <mike__> BluesKaj: What happens when you run beryl-manager from the terminal?
[06:40] <jhutchins_lt> BluesKaj: Yeah, I have an option on my two mandriva systems, they just loop through the same setup menu.
[06:41] <jhutchins_lt> I gather that if you hold your toungue just right, and if you're lucky enough to pick exactly the right howto that matches your hardware close enough, it MIGHT work.
[06:41] <BluesKaj> i can't now mike__, jhutchins_lt , beryl no longer installed
[06:42] <mike__> So no one here has any experience installing a PCI sound card??
[06:42] <BluesKaj> mike__, have you checked alsamixer in the konsole ..unmute with M key to '00' in the contrls
[06:42] <neko__> Elo
[06:42] <mike__> One sec...
[06:43] <neko__> jest ktos polakiem ?
[06:43] <jhutchins_lt> mike__: One of the most common problems is that the speakers are not plugged in to the correct jack, are not powered on or turned up, or otherwise not working.
[06:43] <jhutchins_lt> !pl | neko__
[06:43] <ubotu> neko__: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[06:43] <neko__> O.O
[06:43] <neko__> jak zainstalowac opengla ?
[06:43] <BluesKaj> mike__, do you have an onboard sound device on your MoBo too ?
[06:44] <jhutchins_lt> neko__: Only thing I know about Poland is that I like the girls.
[06:44] <jhutchins_lt> (And that it's to the North and East of Germany, I guess.
[06:45] <neko__> how i can install opengl ?
[06:45] <neko__> ?
[06:46] <neko__> Help me :|
[06:46] <BluesKaj> !pl | neko__,
[06:46] <ubotu> neko__,: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[06:46] <jhutchins_lt> neko__: There's info at http://beryl-project.org or http://opengl.org
[06:46] <neko__> TY ;*
[06:47] <mike__> Everything's turned up in alsamixer (stupid question - how do I exit it?). There is an onboard soundcard, and when I plug the speakers into the jack for it, I get sound, but plugging them into the PCI soundcard yields nothing
[06:47] <BluesKaj> mike__, if you do , you'll have to disable the onboard sound and enable the PCI card in the BIOS peripherals
[06:47] <jhutchins_lt> It's possible to run two sound cards, but you have to defeat the automatic detection.
[06:48] <mike__> Ok, I'm gonna try that...
[06:48] <BluesKaj> mike__, do you have an onboard sound device on your MoBo too ?
[06:48] <mike__> But how do I exit alsamixer?
[06:48] <mike__> BluesKaj: Yeah
[06:48] <jhutchins_lt> mike__: Esc
[06:48] <BluesKaj> close the konsole
[06:48] <mike__> Oh... Wow. Heh
[06:48] <jhutchins_lt> BluesKaj: That's cheating.
[06:48] <griffjon> also if I try to alter kde through kubuntu's system settings, kde crashes, I think it and compiz-kde are fighting perhaps? also any scrollbar actions on the titlebar causes a crash
[06:49] <jhutchins_lt> griffjon: Oh yeah.
[06:49] <mike__> Yeah, isn't closing the console that has stuff running from it considered unclean?
[06:49] <neko__> Good bye
[06:49] <BluesKaj> oops
[06:49] <BluesKaj> mike__, iyou'll have to disable the onboard sound and enable the PCI card in the BIOS peripherals ...that's one reliable way
[06:50] <griffjon> jhutchins_lt: I had this working fine in edgy and wowed people with my scroll-to-fade options, but feisty seems to just crash :( is this a known bug that I have to wait for?
[06:50] <BluesKaj> yeah, sorry mike__ ...bad habits die hard :)
[06:51] <mike__> BluesKaj: Np :-)
[06:51] <mike__> Brb
[06:51] <jargij> klootzakken !
[06:51] <jargij> jullie zijn fcking slecht!
[06:52] <zorglu_> q. how to disable the automatic bug report? especially how to set back to normal my core dump :)
[06:52] <BluesKaj> !de | jargij
[06:52] <ubotu> jargij: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:52] <jargij> fuck you !
[06:52] <jargij> youre a fucking asshole !\
[06:52] <jargij> :P\
[06:52] <TeraDyne> Someone kick him. please.
[06:52] <zorglu_> hmm
[06:52] <jargij> asshole !
[06:52] <jhutchins_lt> griffjon: Yeah, the whole project is re-merging with compiz, no telling where it's gonna go..
[06:52] <jhutchins_lt> Thank you ompaul
[06:52] <ompaul> !nl | jargij
[06:52] <ubotu> jargij: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[06:53] <TeraDyne> thank you
[06:53] <zorglu_> lurking silently but efficient :)
[06:53] <BluesKaj> some ppl just don't like me ...oooh I'm so upset :)
[06:53] <mike__> Any idea why the GRUB menu would be coming up even though I'm not dual-booting?
[06:53] <zorglu_> !apport
[06:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apport - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:54] <jhutchins_lt> mike__: That's so you can pick alternate kernels and rescue options and such.
[06:54] <mike__> BluesKaj: You're the man!! Thanks :-)
[06:54] <BluesKaj> ompaul, he should have been kicked forr that language , ...jerks like that don't deserve help ...altho you got rid of him quite effectively:)
[06:55] <enry> there is a way to reset kade to the standard configuration??
[06:55] <enry> there is a way to reset kade to the standard configuration??
[06:55] <BluesKaj> YW mike__
[06:55] <SkorpKing> mike__: edit the menu.lst. there's a option to set it hidden.
[06:55] <BluesKaj> :)
[06:55] <mike__> jhutchins_lt: I know, but it never did that before (just recently re-installed with a different partition setup), and it still doesn't do it on my other computers
[06:55] <mike__> SkorpKing: Thanks, that's exactly what I was hoping to here
[06:55] <mike__> hear*
[06:55] <griffjon> jhutchins_lt: is there any way to roll back to a more working version while they all figure that out?
[06:55] <SkorpKing> mike__: ur welcome. it's under /boot/grub/
[06:56] <jhutchins_lt> griffjon: You could probably do that, roll back to earlier versions.
[06:56] <jhutchins_lt> griffjon: I dunno, it's a bit of a mess in the first place.
[06:56] <zorglu_> sudo apt-get remove --purge apport <- this was my answer to 'how to disable apport' from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport
[06:57] <griffjon> jhutchins_lt: yeah, but it's just so darned purty
[06:57] <griffjon> jhutchins_lt: also, I'm using a video card that's only halfway supported O:)
[06:59] <mike__> Well, I'm out. Thanks again for the help jhutchins_lt, SkorpKing, BluesKaj. Peace :-)
[07:00] <griffjon> oh well, I'll just fiddle with it until I can figure out something
[07:17] <Ray-Kubuntu> !mp3
[07:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:18] <Ray-Kubuntu> the amarok aint playing the mp3 it opens and then it disappears
[07:18] <Ray-Kubuntu> anything to do with that?
[07:18] <zorglu_> q. what is the name of the new 'logout' gui published for feisty ? i would like to get the kde one. and especially i would like to have my laptop to shutdown directly, when i press the 'off' button of my box, as it was doing on edgy, instead of popping up a window asking me if i want to shutdown
[07:20] <Hobbsee> zorglu_: it's a patch to kdebase
[07:21] <zorglu_> Hobbsee: any name/keyword which would help me resolve the matter, once i have been given some magic variable in a kde config file
[07:21] <zorglu_> ok my memory is failling me :)
[07:21] <Hobbsee> zorglu_: no - but look in teh changelog for whcih patch it is
[07:21] <Hobbsee> dont remember offhand
[07:22] <zorglu_> given by the nice guy with a nick name close johnflux
[07:22] <zorglu_> Hobbsee: ok
[07:23] <zorglu_> jucato!
[07:28] <Ray-Kubuntu> when I open an mp3 file the amarok starts and then it disappears, any know why? or any recomand other multimedia player?
[07:28] <Guza> hi
[07:28] <Guza> i have problem with compaling wine
[07:29] <neko__> download .deb
[07:29] <Guza> error: C compiler cannot create executables
[07:29] <Guza> ?
[07:29] <neko__> niewiem
[07:29] <Guza> i wass type ./configure
[07:29] <Darkkish> my serverlist window in konversation won't go away
[07:29] <NightBird> Guza: that's a question better asked in wine... but let me guess, are you running 64 bit?
[07:29] <SkorpKing> Ray-Kubuntu: dit you install mp3 support for amarok? you can also try xmms.
[07:29] <Guza> yes
[07:29] <neko__> he no have compilator
[07:30] <NightBird> Guza: you need to install a 32 bit compiler
[07:30] <SkorpKing> Guza: install c++ and g++
[07:30] <NightBird> wine only runs in 32 bit mode
[07:30] <Guza> tnx
[07:30] <Guza> for info
[07:30] <Guza> :)
[07:30] <NightBird> so you need to make sure you have a 32 bit compiler and libraries
[07:30] <Darkkish> whatr is that skill guy again?
[07:30] <Darkkish> skull guy
[07:30] <Darkkish> in the run prompt?
[07:30] <TeraDyne> Ray-Kubuntu: try installing "libxine1-ffmpeg". That should correct your problem
[07:31] <NightBird> SkorpKing + neko__: that error is a common one for wine on 64 bit operating systems...
[07:31] <neko__> ati rage 128 running opengl ?
[07:32] <Darkkish> can anyone tell me how to get the skull killy thingey?
[07:32] <Darkkish> from run
[07:32] <NightBird> skull killy thingey?
[07:32] <Darkkish> i think it's usally what happens when you do ctrl+alt+del
[07:32] <Darkkish> but i'm running beryl so it's not...
[07:32] <vzduch> !build-essential | Guza
[07:32] <ubotu> Guza: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:32] <NightBird> oh.... the process manager?
[07:32] <zorglu_> .kde/share/config/ksmserverrc <- the magic file to get normal logout again :)
[07:32] <Darkkish> no
[07:32] <SkorpKing> NightBird: didn't know but had same problem when compiling ksmoothdock. had no compilers installed.
[07:32] <Darkkish> it's a skull
[07:32] <Darkkish> and you click on some frozen process with it
[07:33] <Darkkish> and it kills it
[07:33] <Darkkish> if you don't know the ID of the process
[07:33] <Darkkish> nvm
[07:33] <Darkkish> probelm solved.
[07:33] <Darkkish> never figured out what it was though.
[07:33] <SkorpKing> Darkish: press <Ctrl> + <Esc>
[07:34] <Darkkish> i know what that does...
[07:34] <Darkkish> i'm not trying to open the process manager
[07:35] <Darkkish> takes forever to connect to dal
[07:35] <Darkkish> like forrr evvvvurrrrrrr
[07:36] <Guza> if i install g++ with apt
[07:36] <Guza> it will be 64 bit g++
[07:36] <Guza> ?
[07:36] <NightBird> Guza: yes, but you should also be able to find a 32 bit version as well...
[07:37] <NightBird> actually.... I think g++ can generate 32 bit just fine
[07:37] <Guza> but i can find c++
[07:37] <Guza> in apt
[07:37] <NightBird> er... shoot... no, you do need to find the 32 bit version, don't you...
[07:37] <Guza> ok i install g++
[07:38] <Schuenemann> how do I start beryl?
[07:38] <Guza> how can i install c++
[07:38] <SkorpKing> Guzo: do a search but witout the ++ and pipe it to less.
[07:38] <Ray-Kubuntu> TeraDyne: how do I install it, I'm new on *nix* systems
[07:38] <vzduch> !build-essential | Guza
[07:38] <ubotu> Guza: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:38] <NightBird> Guza: g++ lets you compile c++
[07:38] <Guza> oki
[07:38] <Guza> :)
[07:38] <vzduch> Guza: read & don't guess
[07:38] <TeraDyne> Ray-Kubuntu: In a Konsole window, type in "sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg"
[07:39] <Schuenemann> how do I start beryl?
[07:40] <NightBird> Guza: for compiling wine on 64 bit: http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit (has a section on compiling for ubuntu/kubuntu)
[07:40] <Ray-Kubuntu> TeraDyne: okey, downloading.. Thank you.
[07:40] <TeraDyne> Ray-Kubuntu: No problem
[07:40] <Guza> NightBird: tnx
[07:40] <fyrmedic> how do I open files/folders that have a space in the name in konsole?
[07:41] <Schuenemann> fyrmedic, put the name inside quotes
[07:41] <fyrmedic> thanks
[07:41] <Schuenemann> and use TAB completion
[07:41] <SkorpKing> fyrmedic: or example vi the\ long\ file\ name
[07:42] <NightBird> Guza: next time, when compiling software, you may want to ask in the channels dedicated to that specific software(wine's channel is #winehq).  If it's about installing software from reposotories, check the repo's channel(so issues with stuff in adept should be asked in here)
[07:42] <Guza> ok
[07:44] <Ray-Kubuntu> TeraDyne: it didnt solve the problem
[07:44] <TeraDyne> Ray-Kubuntu: Did you restart Amarok?
[07:51] <Ryaren> pag: I successfully configured my TV-out!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:51] <pag> Ryaren, congratulations :D
[07:51] <Ryaren> pag
[07:52] <pag> Ryaren, yup?
[07:52] <Ryaren> did u said that u can't configure on your lap-top?
[07:52] <pag> Ryaren, wasn't me... I don't even own a laptop
[07:52] <Ryaren> hmmmm
[07:53] <jhutchins_lt> Ryaren: Write down what you did and post it somewhere.
[07:53] <Ryaren> Who was that?
[07:53] <Ryaren> It is not a big deal.. I was trying so long on a wrong driver
[07:54] <Ryaren> Newer driver coludn't verify my TV-encoder
[07:55] <Ryaren> 96xx
[07:55] <Ryaren> but 71xx could
[07:55] <Ryaren> lol :D
[07:55] <Ryaren> I'm happy
[07:55] <Ryaren> :D
[07:55] <Guza> work fine tnx again guys
[07:55] <Schuenemann> how do I turn beryl off?
[07:55] <pag> Ryaren, seems that it was "k o j i" (but I'm not sure, I just grepped the logs, and you taked to him about that issue)
[07:55] <Ryaren> jejejeje
[07:55] <Ryaren> I will help him if he will be here
[07:56] <pag> Ryaren, that nick of course without the spaces, I just wanted to avoid highlighting him/her
[07:56] <Ryaren> Now I have to find out how can I see mplayer on the TV :)
[07:56] <Ray-Kubuntu> TeraDyne: yes
[07:56] <Ryaren> okay I know
[07:56] <TeraDyne> Schuenemann: right click on the Beryl-Manager tray icon and look for an option to change your window manager.
[07:57] <Schuenemann> TeraDyne, I don't see the icon
[07:58] <TeraDyne> Schuenemann: The little diamond in your notification tray? You have to have Beryl-Manager running, of course...
[07:58] <Schuenemann> TeraDyne, ok, I started and changed back
[07:59] <Schuenemann> thanks
[07:59] <TeraDyne> Schuenemann: np
[07:59] <Schuenemann> I need a better graphic card to run beryl
[08:00] <TeraDyne> Ray-Kubuntu: I'm not sure what the problem is. Maybe try another music player, like XMMS or Rhythmbox. You can install them from the "Add\Remove Programs" app.
[08:02] <miltos> hi ppl:-)
[08:03] <SkorpKing> helo
[08:03] <Ryaren> !mplayer
[08:03] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[08:03] <Ryaren> !mplayer-tv
[08:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mplayer-tv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:03] <miltos> is there any graphical interface in order to unrar multiple rar files?
[08:03] <jhutchins_lt> miltos: just unrar as far as I know.
[08:04] <TeraDyne> IIRC, unrar is command line only
[08:04] <TeraDyne> Not sure if Ark can handle RAR files...
[08:05] <jgoguen> TeraDyne: if you install unrar it should work
[08:05] <TeraDyne> jgoguen: Meh, I don't usually run into RAR files, so I don't have much use for unrar.
[08:06] <jgoguen> TeraDyne: That just allows Ark to handle them...without unrar Ark doesn't know what to do with them
[08:07] <TeraDyne> jgoguen: Ok.
[08:07] <miltos> jhutchins_lt:thanks
[08:07] <stamen> hi
[08:07] <stamen> does anybody knows how to remove a network folder in kubuntu
[08:07] <jhutchins_lt> Actually, it looks like ark is supposed to be able to handle them (probably needs unrar installed).
[08:08] <stamen> I can only add them, but to remove I can't :(
[08:08] <Guza> can some one give me link how to install beryl :)
[08:08] <stamen> ~beryl
[08:08] <stamen> !beryl
[08:08] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:08] <miltos> TeraDyne: Ark can not handle multiple rar files password protected...
[08:08] <Guza> tnx
[08:08] <TeraDyne> miltos: ok.
[08:10] <TeraDyne> like I said, I don't run into RAR files enough to really bother with unrar, so...
[08:12] <Guza> can i install beryl on ati x1600 ???
[08:12] <Guza> i know that ati drivers not support direct rendering
[08:13] <dr_willis> ive heard its best to avoide Beryl and ati stuff for now.
[08:14] <Guza> blah
[08:15] <K-Ryan> Any recommendations on PCMCIA cards?
[08:17] <TeraDyne> K-Ryan: As in? Wireless, TV Tuner, Ethernet Ports, USB Ports, Firewire Ports... am I getting close?
[08:17] <K-Ryan> Wireless
[08:17] <K-Ryan> Sorry =/
[08:17] <TeraDyne> K-Ryan: I like perfer anything Linksys, personally.
[08:18] <K-Ryan> Good performance? How about compatibility?
[08:18] <ubuntu> I'm getting a grub error 17 on startup.  I have a dual-boot windows xp/ kubuntu installation that was working fine until I recently tried to restart after partitioning the free space left on the linux boot drive into ntfs.
[08:18] <K-Ryan> Lot of work to make them work or what?
[08:18] <Graham> K-Ryan: Have a look at this page
[08:18] <Graham> http://www.goonda.org/wireless/
[08:18] <K-Ryan> Because I actually have a wireless card for this desktop, except I didn't think it would work well with Linux.
[08:19] <K-Ryan> (And it's Linksys)
[08:19] <Ryaren> Sby know how can I direct the mplayer screen to the TV?
[08:19] <Ryaren> second monitor..
[08:20] <Graham> K-Ryan: Does it work?
[08:20] <K-Ryan> Never tried it
[08:20] <dr_willis> Ryaren,  you got just a tv? or a tv and pc monitor on same machine?
[08:20] <jhutchins_lt> It's mostly they either work right away, or you  mess with them forever and they don't.
[08:20] <Ryaren> dr_willis: I have two screens now Monitor and TV
[08:21] <Graham> ubuntu: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/slackware-linux-help/54246-grub-error-17-a.html
[08:21] <dr_willis> Ryaren,  i enable 'twinview' for my box. (lcd montiro and tv) i just drag the media player program over to the tv. and fullsize it.
[08:21] <Ryaren> I want to start a video file from the monitor because I can't see small letters on the TV
[08:21] <ubuntu> thanks
[08:21] <Ryaren> hmm
[08:21] <Graham> ubuntu: Wait a sec, there's a bit more.
[08:21] <Graham> Basicly, you need to get a liveCD which I assume you already have, do sudo grub then the following
[08:22] <Graham> find /boot/grub/stage2
[08:22] <TeraDyne> K-Ryan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[08:22] <Graham> That'll give output similar to (hd0,1)
[08:22] <TeraDyne> K-Ryan: That link should help out.
[08:22] <jhutchins_lt> Recent updates broke my acx100 big time.
[08:22] <Graham> That being the second partition of the first hard drive.
[08:22] <Graham> Then run root (hd0,1)
[08:22] <dr_willis> Ryaren,  my xorg.conf (for an examople)  http://pastebin.ca/607740
[08:22] <Graham> And setup (hd0)
[08:22] <Ryaren> Actually I have just configured my tv-out (withouttwinview) after 3 days trying so I'm affraid change my xorg,conf :D
[08:22] <Graham> then quit and reboot
[08:22] <Ryaren> :D
[08:22] <ubuntu> ok
[08:23] <Graham> K-Ryan: Are you having any problems with your wireless card?
[08:23] <Ryaren> but never mind gonna try
[08:23] <dr_willis> Ryaren,  theats why you backup your working xorg.conf file
[08:23] <K-Ryan> Graham: Don't have one setup
[08:23] <K-Ryan> I need one for the laptop I'm getting though
[08:23] <dr_willis> Ryaren,  then ya can proberly just run 'sudo nvidia-xconfig --twinview'
[08:23] <Ryaren> dr_willis: you're right I did it 3 times :D
[08:23] <Graham> In that case, read that page TeraDyne posted.
[08:23] <K-Ryan> I am =)
[08:24] <Ryaren> xinerma is necessary?
[08:26] <Graham> K-Ryan: Also, never EVER buy a Belkin card.
[08:26] <Graham> They're shite.
[08:26] <K-Ryan> Okay
[08:26] <ubuntu> ok, graham, I completed your instructions and am rebooting.  thx
[08:26] <K-Ryan> Anyone have a wireless card that was cheap and works?
[08:26] <Graham> I got stressed with mine the other day and I'm back to ethernet :)
[08:27] <Graham> An ethernet card/cable is cheaper :)
[08:27] <K-Ryan> It's a laptop
[08:27] <K-Ryan> I want wireless
[08:27] <K-Ryan> =)
[08:27] <Graham> I wonder if my dad's 3com card works.
[08:28] <Graham> We shall find out :)
[08:29] <Graham> I'm gona load livecd on his laptop, just to piss him off.
[08:32] <sam123> can somebody send me their working /etc/asound.conf file please i broke mine and i cannot get my 5.1 sound working
[08:33] <Ryaren> dr_willis: I got this error message: (WW) NVIDIA(0): TwinView cannot be enabled when a GPU is shared between
[08:33] <Ryaren> (WW) NVIDIA(0):      multiple X screens.
[08:33] <sam123> get another gpu
[08:34] <Ryaren> how?
[08:34] <sam123> buy one
[08:34] <GRZECHu> hello
[08:35] <Ryaren> sam it is not funny...
[08:35] <sam123> im not trying to be funny
[08:35] <K-Ryan> Hi GRZECHu
[08:36] <Ryaren> Why should I buy another if it should be work on my video-card
[08:36] <GRZECHu> have problems with window decorator but I'm not sure what should I look for
[08:36] <K-Ryan> Anyone use a Netgear WG511 wireless notebook card?
[08:36] <jhutchins_lt> Yeah, latest kernels killed it for me.
[08:36] <sam123> Ryaren the error message is telling you that the gpu in your graphics card cannot be shared between two screens
[08:36] <jhutchins_lt> Oh, wait, no, mine's a 111T.
[08:37] <Biagi> http://biagi.miniville.fr/tra
[08:37] <Ryaren> sam123: Yes, but maybe that's why it telling it because in xorg.conf file configured the TV-out too
[08:38] <pal_> hi where can i get Qt 4.3.0 prebuilt
[08:38] <pal_> or Qt 4.2.1?
[08:39] <sam123> Option	"TwinView"	"yes" add that to the monitor section in your xorg.conf
[08:41] <Ryaren> gonna try
[08:41] <GRZECHu> just have installed Beryl and can't find solution to turn on application bar (this one with close, min,max buttons), anyone can help?
[08:41] <nosrednaekim> GRZECHu: did you follow a tutorial?
[08:41] <GRZECHu> yes, step by step
[08:45] <Ryaren> hmm
[08:45] <Ryaren> dr_willis r u here?
[08:45] <dr_willis> Yes.
[08:46] <dr_willis> In and out all day.
[08:46] <Ryaren> so this is the error:
[08:46] <Ryaren> (WW) NVIDIA(0): Only one display device connected; disabling TwinView.
[08:46] <dr_willis> have you rebooted that machine since attatching the tv?
[08:46] <nosrednaekim> GRZECHu: which tutorial? and which graphics card do you have?
[08:46] <dr_willis> what is your video card?
[08:47] <GRZECHu> nvidia
[08:47] <GRZECHu> ge force 7400 GO
[08:47] <GRZECHu> I have HP notebook
[08:48] <Ryaren> dr_willis nvidia geforce 4 ti 4200
[08:48] <Ryaren> Yeah I have to reboot because when i restart the X my machin always freezing
[08:49] <dr_willis> Ryaren,  freezing.. hmm...
[08:49] <dr_willis> its possible the tv out is not as nice on that old a card as my 6800.
[08:49] <dr_willis> its not seeing the tv for some reason. May have to tweak the config and 'force' it on.
[08:49] <Ray`> ohh comon how to play mp3 files ?
[08:49] <dr_willis> you could try, unpluging the moniutor, and rebooting with just the tv
[08:50] <GRZECHu> nosrednaekim: can you send me a link to some goog tutorial? I was using polish forum before
[08:50] <Ray`> :\
[08:50] <dr_willis> Ray`,  install the right packages.. and they play fine. :)
[08:50] <TeraDyne> !codecs
[08:50] <dr_willis> theres a bug in amarok (i think) where it dont auto-install them right however.
[08:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:50] <nosrednaekim> GRZECHu: sure, what graphics card do you have? Nvidia, ATI or intel?
[08:51] <GRZECHu> nosrednaekim: nvidia
[08:51] <TeraDyne> dr_willis: Correct. However, all you have to do is install "libxine1-ffmpeg" and restart Amarok.
[08:52] <nosrednaekim> GRZECHu: ok, that makes it alot easier. just a second
[08:52] <GRZECHu> nosrednaekim: hope it will be easier :)
[08:53] <nosrednaekim> NightBird: uhhg I just fought one of those things for 3 hours in WINDOWS
[08:53] <NightBird> nosrednaekim: really? I plugged it in and it was operating fine
[08:54] <NightBird> I can't get it to use the ethernet option, but the usb is working fine..
[08:54] <nosrednaekim> NightBird: I had to reset it, change the password and turn off WEP. took a while.. but w/e
[08:55] <GRZECHu> nosrednaekim: do you have this link?
[08:55] <nosrednaekim> GRZECHu: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Beryl_.28Nvidia.29
[08:56] <GRZECHu> nosrednaekim: thank you
[08:57] <GRZECHu> nosrednaekim: can I use this one with kubuntu?
[08:57] <nosrednaekim> GRZECHu: most likely the only thing you need to do is add the "AddARGBGLXVisuals" line
[08:57] <nosrednaekim> yes, it will
[08:58] <spitwise> hmm dynamicclocks
[08:58] <GRZECHu> nosrednaekim: I have this line in my xorg.conf :(
[08:59] <nosrednaekim> GRZECHu: did you restart X?
[08:59] <Ryaren> :D
[08:59] <Ryaren> dr_willis: Funny thing happened
[09:00] <GRZECHu> nosrednaekim: yes, whole system too :)
[09:01] <Ryaren> dr_willis: When I got the entry screen to write my password everythings works fine there was a screen on my TV, but when I hit the enter the screen went away from my TV...
[09:01] <nosrednaekim> GRZECHu: this may be stupid, but did you install the nvidia drivers?
[09:01] <GRZECHu> nosrednaekim: I have added one more option from other tutorial, will try to comment this line and force restart of X server
[09:01] <GRZECHu> nosrednaekim: yes, I have nvidia module installed and running
[09:01] <nosrednaekim> ok.
[09:01] <GRZECHu> lsmod |grep nvidia shows it running
[09:02] <GRZECHu> brb
[09:02] <nosrednaekim> great.
[09:02] <Ryaren> How can I switch between twinview metamodes???
[09:07] <GRZECHu> re
[09:07] <GRZECHu> nosrednaekim: thank you for help !
[09:07] <GRZECHu> nosrednaekim: it works now
[09:07] <nosrednaekim> did it work?
[09:07] <nosrednaekim> what option did you add?
[09:07] <GRZECHu> nosrednaekim: problem was with nvidia driver
[09:07] <Ryaren> dr_willis r u here?
[09:07] <nosrednaekim> ok.... how so?
[09:07] <GRZECHu> nosrednaekim: I have removed one :)
[09:07] <GRZECHu> i did not add anything
[09:08] <nosrednaekim> yeah which one did you remove.
[09:08] <sam123> how do i enable the pcm slider in kmix because its missing for me.
[09:08] <GRZECHu> jus one sec
[09:09] <GRZECHu> nosrednaekim: #    Option         "AllowGLXWithComposite" "True"
[09:09] <nosrednaekim> ahhh... yeah,
[09:09] <Ryaren> sam123: do u know how can I switch twinview metamodes?
[09:09] <nosrednaekim> thats for older Nvidia cards
[09:09] <GRZECHu> nosrednaekim: now I know it too :)
[09:09] <GRZECHu> nosrednaekim: many thanks :)
[09:10] <Ryaren> sam123: TwinView is working without buy another videocard but I don't know how can I switch metamode
[09:10] <sam123> Ryaren i havent got the foggiest sorry.
[09:11] <Ryaren> i don't understand you
[09:11] <nosrednaekim> GRZECHu: NP, not that I did anything
[09:11] <GRZECHu> very good #!  thank to all for great support :) your work makes ubuntu better :)
[09:12] <GRZECHu> bye!
[09:12] <sam123> Ryaren ask somebody who knows linux more
[09:12] <Ryaren> okay
[09:12] <Ryaren> but u help me in Twinview thats why i asked you
[09:12] <nosrednaekim> bye
[09:16] <sam123> Does anybody know how to stop kwallet from asking for a password everytime i start kde because of knetworkmanager?
[09:16] <sam123> When knetworkmanager starts i need to keep inputting a password and its annoying
[09:17] <vzduch> sam123: that's what KWallet is supposed to do.. everytime some program opens KWallet (i.e. when it isn't already open), it asks for your pwd
[09:18] <sam123> vzduch so how do i configure knetworkmanager not to use kwallet?
[09:19] <vzduch> sam123: no idea
[09:19] <frojnd> how can I reset settings for my keyboard mouse and monitor?
[09:19] <vzduch> frojnd: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:19] <sam123> reconfigure your xorg should do the job
[09:21] <Guza> i use this manual and i still have problems with grapic driver
[09:21] <Guza> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[09:21] <Guza> root@sasha:~# fglrxinfo
[09:21] <Guza> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:21] <Guza> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[09:21] <Guza> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[09:22] <Guza> some one have idea
[09:22] <Guza> ?
[09:23] <frojnd> If I wanna install ubuntu and  Iset for partioning guided most free space, will this automatically create swap or not?
[09:23] <frojnd> and how much??
[09:24] <edu> hi all!! easy question here: i just installed ubuntu, copied my personal files from my old hd but the filenames have weird characters (i was using iso8859-15 previously), any ideas?
[09:25] <frojnd> or If I allready have patition named swap,.. will this guded partiion manager use this partition for swap?
[09:25] <rand_acs> frojnd: I believe that is the case
[09:29] <william__> help
[09:29] <NickPresta> !ask | william__
[09:29] <ubotu> william__: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:29] <ubuntu> I'm still getting grub error 17 on startup.  What are the commands to reinstall it again?
[09:30] <coteyr> ok this is just odd. Ijust moved from fedora core 6 to Kubuntu. I am trying to get mysql running. I installed mysql-server-5 and when ever it starts it starts in safe mode. How do I stop that from happening
[09:31] <william__> i have installed kubuntu today and want to also install ichthux stuff but the connection times out
[09:31] <NickPresta> ubuntu, in a console, start the grub shell. then, "find /boot/grub/stage1". Take the result and do "root (RESULT)" after that, if you want to replace MBR, "setup (hd0)"
[09:31] <william__> i used thier resouce.list addon
[09:31] <NickPresta> ubuntu, read this http://www.sorgonet.com/linux/grubrestore/
[09:32] <ubuntu> I'm getting "error 17: cannot mount selected partition"
[09:32] <william__> but when i wget http://archive.ichthux.com/ichthux.asc # This downloads the key to identify the Ichthux repository is when it times out
[09:32] <frojnd> can systemrescue cd edit partitions and format them???
[09:32] <coteyr> ok I just ran /etc/init.d/mysql restart and I have two mysql processes running mysqld and mysqld_safe
[09:33] <coteyr> i can access mysql locally but not remotly
[09:34] <william__> any help please
; kubuntu appears to install to mbr if .dev/hda
[09:34] <coteyr> let me guess you primary is not on /dev/hda
[09:35] <xerosis> william__: looks like the site is down...
[09:35] <serega> hi guys
[09:35] <william__> o_O
[09:35] <coteyr> try reinstalling grub where is should be or using fdisk to set the partition active where grub is installed I had the same problem
[09:36] <william__> crud
[09:36] <william__> i want it
[09:36] <serega> could somebody give an advice on how to get rid of sound corruption in games (SDL) kubuntu feisty
[09:36] <serega> ?
[09:36] <serega> amarok sounds well
[09:37] <william__> the desktop that the have has well as the bible stuff
[09:37] <noob-untu> amaroks cool.
[09:37] <serega> =)
[09:37] <william__> looks like the Christian distros will not install on laptop
[09:38] <william__> any otheer distro will but no not ubuntu ce or ichthux
[09:38] <william__> this is a bummer
[09:39] <serega> amazing: how many people get evolving to ubuntu instead of vista
[09:40] <NightBird> hm... I just tried booting to a kubuntu live cd... and when it started loading, the video card stoped sending data to the monitor...
[09:40] <jhutchins_lt> william__: Perhaps the laptop is posessed by daemons?
[09:40] <william__> ya LOL
[09:41] <NightBird> I tried it using the VESA driver, same problem
[09:41] <serega> please help with moving from ALSA to OSS
[09:41] <william__> and noone on the #ichthux channels are helping
[09:41] <jhutchins_lt> NightBird: Try the noapic, noacpi, and vga=normal options.
[09:41] <jhutchins_lt> NightBird: You may need to use the alternate CD.
[09:41] <serega> NightBird: problems even with VESA? very strange
[09:42] <NightBird> jhutchins_lt, I was using the 64 bit dvd
[09:42] <serega> NightBird: does Xorg start?
[09:42] <serega> or you are talking about splashscreen?
[09:42] <NightBird> I'm talking about the splash screen
[09:43] <serega> just turn it off
[09:43] <jhutchins_lt> presuming you have a valid CD...
[09:43] <jhutchins_lt> NightBird: Those are the most common options to fix a non-boot.
[09:44] <NightBird> jhutchins_lt, ok, I'll try it after validating the burn
[09:44] <william__> ubuntu ce has a tar that you download to convert but its not kde stuff
[09:45] <serega> maybe I should ask about sound troubles on another IRC channel?
[09:45] <jhutchins_lt> william__: Of course not, it's gnome.
[09:46] <jhutchins_lt> serega: Most likely it's just that the game is taking up too much I/O and CPU for the sound to work well.
[09:46] <jhutchins_lt> serega: I presume it's a windows game?
[09:47] <serega> jhutchins_lt: thanks for attention. No almost all native games play ugly corrupted sound. I read about AC'97 ALSA troubles
[09:48] <serega> or C-Media troubles, I'm weak on it
[09:48] <william__> ya i know hate gnome to hard to deal with
[09:48] <serega> I thought someone already asked the same
[09:48] <bky> does anyone know of a way to capture video of the screen?
[09:48] <Chousuke> serega: You just need to get a good sound card :)
[09:48] <bky> like a video screenshot
[09:49] <william__> thanks for thoughts jhutchins
[09:49] <serega> jhutchins_lt: =)
[09:50] <jhutchins_lt> serega: Well, make sure the game's using alsa, that would be one thing.
[09:50] <serega> jhutchins_It: so do have any ideas how to detect reason of sound corruption? I have lots of system resources and sound works well in windows
[09:50] <jhutchins_lt> serega: How does the sound on videos work?
[09:50] <jhutchins_lt> (how well)
[09:50] <serega> jhutchins_lt: perfectly
[09:51] <jhutchins_lt> Ok, specific game examples then.
[09:51] <serega> jhutchins_lt: I assume that other applications just use artsd
[09:51] <serega> jhutchins_lt: but app that work through SDL...
[09:51] <serega> *apps
[09:52] <serega> maybe there is a way to make SDL layer to use OSS?
[09:52] <william__> the distro also has problems install it crashes before the grub installs
[09:53] <william__> when it gets the the download mirror part
[09:53] <spitwise> q: feisty upgrade is asking me how many MD arrays my root filesystem needs. what does that mean?
[09:53] <spitwise> default answer is : all
[09:53] <serega> william__: what type of internet connection was used?
[09:54] <william__> dsl
[09:54] <william__> but the site is down
[09:54] <jhutchins_lt> spitwise: I'd go with the default.
[09:55] <serega> william__: try to install without internet connection. setup it later
[09:56] <serega> jhutchins_lt: supertux
[09:56] <william__> could i install with desktop then put it in the laptop tried before but when i booted up got the tty instead of graphic logon
[09:57] <jhutchins_lt> Not installed here.
[09:57] <william__> how do i start the xserver
[09:57] <serega> jhutchins_lt: any SDL
[09:57] <serega> william__: X
[09:58] <serega> william__: and look for error messages
[09:58] <william__> or should i change con fig settins before i put hd in lap top
[09:58] <jhutchins_lt> serega: Sorry, I don't even know what a sdl is.
[09:58] <serega> I think that video card of laptop is some different than desktop
[09:58] <william__> yes it is differant
[09:59] <william__> how i change the config file so as it to read laptop video card
[09:59] <serega> william__: so you need to change video driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:00] <osh_> Where do I suggest new packages to be included? Somewhere in launchpad.net?
[10:00] <serega> change it to vesa it is most general driver
[10:00] <william__> ok that sounds k
[10:00] <Flegma> hello, can somebody help me with python and gtk??? i cant import gtk... it shows message no module named gtk..... :(
[10:01] <william__> vesa rite
[10:01] <serega> william__: there is already vesa?
[10:01] <jhutchins_lt> !find gtk
[10:01] <william__>  i could do that in grub rite
[10:01] <ubotu> Found: compiz-gtk, evince-gtk, gcalctool-gtk, gftp-gtk, gnome-icon-theme-gartoon (and 365 others)
[10:01] <serega> no
[10:01] <serega> william__: you can do it from console
[10:01] <william__> ok
[10:02] <serega> just boot and log in
[10:02] <osh_> Flegma: you got gtk python bindings installed?
[10:02] <dr_willis> hmm..  AMD announces $7.5 million Transmeta investment   - i always wondered what happened to Transmeta
[10:02] <william__> yes serega
[10:02] <Flegma> osh_, yes... every package, where gtk is i installed....
[10:02] <serega> william__: are you familiar with the "vi" editor?
[10:02] <Flegma> osh_,  i can succesfully import pygtk, but not gtk
[10:03] <william__> no new blood to linux
[10:03] <TeraDyne> Flegma: Might want to ask in #python. They might know more.
[10:03] <Flegma> i ll try
[10:03] <william__> o_O
[10:03] <william__> O_o
[10:03] <serega> william__: ok, I think we should go to a private channel
[10:03] <william__> wait gota come back later ok
[10:04] <william__> have to reinstall ichthux
[10:04] <osh_> Flegma: have a look in /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages
[10:04] <osh_> That's where the module you're importing should be located.
[10:05] <posingaspopular> what tool can i use to convert ogg vorbis to mp3 in kubuntu
[10:05] <william__> then work off 2nd laptop
[10:05] <dr_willis> !find ogg2mp3
[10:05] <vzduch> posingaspopular: why do that?
[10:05] <ubotu> Package/file ogg2mp3 does not exist in feisty
[10:05] <dr_willis> !find ogg
[10:05] <william__> talk later ok serega
[10:05] <ubotu> Found: libcommons-logging-java, libogg-dev, libogg0, liboggflac++-dev, liboggflac++2c2 (and 33 others)
[10:05] <dr_willis> Hmm..
[10:05] <posingaspopular> vzduch: my friend needs mp3 and the song i have is ogg. i dont want to but he wants me to
[10:05] <serega> william__: no problem
[10:05] <osh_> Where do I suggest new packages to be included? Somewhere in launchpad.net?
[10:05] <dr_willis> !find mp3
[10:05] <ubotu> Found: libgmp3-dev, libgmp3-doc, libgmp3c2, beep-media-player, checkmp3 (and 41 others)
[10:05] <vzduch> posingaspopular: why does he _need_ MP3?
[10:06] <serega> maybe for player?
[10:06] <serega> device
[10:06] <william__> thanks it takes about 1hour to do all this
[10:06] <dr_willis> vzduch,  lets guess.. his player cant do ogg...
[10:06] <william__> is that ok
[10:06] <Flegma> osh_,  there isnt nothing called like ftk :(
[10:06] <Flegma> gtk
[10:06] <ubuntu> I'm getting "Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition" when I try to "setup (hd0)" for grub
[10:06] <serega> william__: 1 hour later here?
[10:06] <william__> God Bless you all here mightly
[10:06] <ubuntu> anyone know why?
[10:07] <posingaspopular> vzduch: i dont think itunes runs ogg
[10:07] <william__> yup 1 hour
[10:07] <william__> GB
[10:07] <vzduch> posingaspopular: oggdec $filename.ogg && lame [insertYourDesiredOptionsHere]  $filename.wav $filename.mp3
[10:07] <serega> bye
[10:07] <TeraDyne> posingaspopular: It can. Hold on, let me find the link
[10:07] <dr_willis> odd.. my mouse pointer froze/crashed. :)
[10:07] <posingaspopular> TeraDyne: yea that's what i do, but he uses closed format
[10:07] <serega> OGG/Vorbis rules
[10:07] <osh_> Flegma: No, I don't have it in my site-packages either. But it needs to be there if you want to import it.
[10:08] <dr_willis> sort of accidently drug the Firefox icon from the taskpanelbar to xchat.. and it hung the mouse pointer.
[10:08] <william__> no one still on #ichthux Channels non of them errrr
[10:08] <william__> BRB
[10:08] <TeraDyne> posingaspopular: ah. Does he need the MP3s for his iPod?
[10:08] <posingaspopular> TeraDyne: something like that.
[10:08] <posingaspopular> i think im just going to do it later
[10:08] <posingaspopular> thanks anyway
[10:09] <serega> dr_willis: does it hang only mouse or whole X?
[10:09] <TeraDyne> posingaspopular: Understood. vzduch's command will cover your needs
[10:09] <dr_willis> serega,  the mouse is moving around.. but i cant select anything.
[10:09] <Flegma> osh_,  but.hiw can I put it there?? I have gtk and python installed correctly.... where do you think is the problem??
[10:09] <posingaspopular> yup. thanks TeraDyne and vzduch
[10:09] <serega> aha...
[10:09] <dr_willis> its a little  circle with X in it, and a mini-firefox icon
[10:09] <sam123> can anybody pastebin the default /etc/asound.conf file for me please?
[10:10] <dr_willis> i ran 'xkill' in a terminal. it gage an error  'unable to grab pointer'
[10:10] <dr_willis> Thats a totally new error for me. heh heh
[10:10] <serega> dr_willis: does this problem apper with these two applications only?
[10:10] <dr_willis> serega,  it just now happened.. never seen it happen befor
[10:10] <dr_willis> But i noticed what i did..
[10:10] <serega> dr_willis: =)
[10:10] <jhutchins_lt> dr_willis: All instances of firefox killed?
[10:11] <jhutchins_lt> Friggin' gesture nonsense.
[10:11] <serega> dr_willis: well, how about desktop environment?
[10:11] <serega> dr_willis: is it alive?
[10:11] <dr_willis> firefox was allready running.. i drug the 'taskbar icon' for firefox that was running , into the xchat text area.
[10:11] <dr_willis> I think.
[10:11] <dr_willis> everything is running fine. I just cant use the mouse to select anything
[10:11] <osh_> Flegma: I installed python-gtk2 and after that I had no problem importing pygtk. But that wasn't the problem was it.
[10:11] <dr_willis> having to alt-tab  between apps
[10:11] <jhutchins_lt> dr_willis: Try killing firefox
[10:11] <osh_> Flegma: You want to import gtk. What's the diff between pygtk and gtk?
[10:12] <dr_willis> i dont weant to kill firefox yet.. its 70% done in a download. :)
[10:12] <serega> do not believe it will help...
[10:12] <dr_willis> serega,  heh. yea seesm more of a kde/confused issue
[10:12] <serega> dr_willis: does your mouse open e.g. KDE menu?
[10:12] <dr_willis> i could kill kicker. that may help
[10:12] <Flegma> osh_,  gtk is some utility for using gtk I think...and if you want to import pygtk successfully, you have to import gtk...
[10:12] <Flegma> osh_,  try to import gtk
[10:12] <dr_willis> mouse can not click on ANYTHING. no tabs in xchat, no K menu, no panel buttons
[10:13] <serega> dr_willis: ok, clear)
[10:13] <dr_willis> right click menus also gond
[10:13] <dr_willis> gone.
[10:13] <dr_willis> :) but it moves around
[10:13] <jhutchins_lt> dr_willis: dcop kicker kicker restart
[10:13] <serega> dr_willis: yep
[10:13] <dr_willis> that wont restart my launched apps?
[10:13] <jhutchins_lt> dr_willis: Shouldn't, should just restart kicker.
[10:13] <sam123> can anybody pastebin the default /etc/asound.conf file for me please?
[10:14] <dr_willis> that kicked it in the head. :)
[10:14] <osh_> Flegma: I import pygtk without any problems. Both 'import pygtk' and 'from pygtk import *' work well.
[10:14] <serega> dr_willis: all apps?
[10:14] <dr_willis> xchats systray thing jumped out of the systray... and now has its own itttsy bitsy window. is the only side effect i sere
[10:14] <Flegma> osh_,  try to import gtk
[10:14] <serega> =)))
[10:15] <osh_> Flegma: There isn't a module named gtk, so it won't work.
[10:15] <Flegma> osh_,  but, in official tutorial, there is line with import gtk
[10:16] <osh_> Flegma: Is the tutorial current? Could the module have changed name?
[10:16] <Flegma> osh_,  current, taken from pygtk.org
[10:16] <jhutchins_lt> dr_willis: I've had that happen with some apps/applets, sometimes restarting kicker again fixes it, sometimes you have to restart the app.
[10:16] <jhutchins_lt> dr_willis: For xchat, just disable the taskbar icon, then re-enable it shoudl do it.
[10:16] <osh_> Flegma: link please
[10:17] <Flegma> osh_, http://www.pygtk.org/pygtk2tutorial/ch-GettingStarted.html
[10:17] <osh_> Flegma: nm, found it.
[10:17] <osh_> Flegma: Oh, you beat me to it.
[10:18] <osh_> !python-gtk2
[10:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about python-gtk2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:18] <osh_> Flegma: What about this package then? python-gtk2. Does that help?
[10:19] <Flegma> osh_,  i have it :?
[10:20] <osh_> After installing it I could do a 'import gtk'.
[10:20] <osh_> Can't you?
[10:20] <Flegma> osh_,  i cant... =-O
[10:20] <Flegma> osh_,  you have python 2.4 or 2.5??
[10:20] <phornax> hey anyone know why i get a white desktop only when i try to load beryl? =_= diamond shows, but the other desktops are totally white :o
[10:20] <osh_> Flegma: 2.5.1
[10:21] <serega> jhutchins_lt: have you some time again? or give advice who can, please
[10:21] <jhutchins_lt> phornax: Known failure mode for software that's not ready for release yet.
[10:21] <Flegma> osh_,  me too
[10:21] <Flegma> :(
[10:23] <jhutchins_lt> serega: What's up?
[10:24] <osh_> Flegma: /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/
[10:24] <osh_> Flegma: you have a gtk-2.0 in that dir?
[10:24] <Flegma> osh_,  yes, I have...
[10:26] <Squirrely_Wrath> HOpefully I can get some help.  I just switched to Kubuntu from Ubuntu.  I don't have a KDE Control Center in my Menu.  Now I can access it through the run application, but I would much rather have some kind of launcher or menu button.  Anyone able to help?
[10:26] <osh_> Flegma: perhaps your python is broken then. I have it there and it works like a charm. It loads from /var/lib/python-support from what I can tell.
[10:27] <osh_> Flegma: Sorry that I can't help you more. Perhaps reinstall it
[10:27] <K-Ryan> Squirrely_Wrath: Foamy? =)
[10:27] <Squirrely_Wrath> lol, yup.  Foany fan anyway
[10:27] <Squirrely_Wrath> Foamy*
[10:27] <K-Ryan> Anyway, what you want to do is right click somewhere in the KDE Menu
[10:27] <Flegma> osh_,  thank you very much for your time....
[10:27] <K-Ryan> There's a button like "edit menus"
[10:27] <Squirrely_Wrath> How about add item to main panel?
[10:28] <K-Ryan> That'll do it
[10:28] <osh_> Flegma: Good luck. And don't forget that there's 'qt' which does similar things. =)
[10:28] <Squirrely_Wrath> wait, that wasn't right.  Hold on a sec. lol
[10:28] <ubuntu_> /*
[10:28] <ubuntu_>  * 007Shell.c	v.1.0		Covert Shell Tunnelling in ICMP 0x00 ECHO
[10:28] <ubuntu_>  *				REPLY message types. Works by putting
[10:28] <ubuntu_>  *				data streams in the ICMP message past the
[10:28] <ubuntu_>  *				usual 4 bytes (8-bit type, 8-bit code and
[10:28] <ubuntu_>  *				16-bit checksum).
[10:28] <Flegma> osh_,  but qt i scommercial isnt it?
[10:29] <osh_> Flegma: No.
[10:29] <Squirrely_Wrath> Ah!  Menu editor!
[10:29] <osh_> Flegma: Only if you license it as such. It's GPL if you write GPL programs.
[10:29] <Squirrely_Wrath> Okay, now how do I add KDE Contral center?
[10:30] <ubuntu>  Hello.  I'm getting a grub error 17 at startup.  I booted from a kubuntu live disk and tried to follow the steps here http://www.sorgonet.com/linux/grubrestore/     to restore grub.  However, T get an error 17 ("Cannot mount selected partition") when I do setup (hd0).  How do I fix this?
[10:30] <osh_> Flegma: You have the choice to pay Trolltech some money so that your program won't get GPL'ed.
[10:30] <K-Ryan> Squirrely_Wrath: You're going to ned to select the area you want it in, and fill out the form on the right.
[10:30] <Flegma> osh_,  oh... ok..i'll try.... ;)
[10:30] <serega> jhutchins_lt: I noticed that the corruption occurs when some sounds tried to be played simultaneously
[10:30] <ubuntu_> i am fr wher is the serve fr pl
[10:30] <Flegma> osh_,  thx a lot....
[10:30] <K-Ryan> You'll need to put in the command you use in the terminal to launch it.
[10:30] <osh_> Flegma: No problem. Good luck with whatever it is you're doing.
[10:30] <ubuntu_> i am fr wher is the serve fr pl
[10:30] <osh_> Where do I suggest new packages to be included? Somewhere in launchpad.net?
[10:30] <serega> jhutchins_lt: and does not matter directly through ALSA or through ARTS
[10:30] <jhutchins_lt> serega: What do you expect?  Mixed sounds?  That could be a limitation of your card.
[10:31] <BluesKaj> !fr
[10:31] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:31] <Squirrely_Wrath> Um...and how do I add the launch command?
[10:31] <ubuntu_> ok thanks
[10:31] <Squirrely_Wrath> Or mor specifically, what is the launch command
[10:31] <K-Ryan> I thought you said you could launch it from the terminal?
[10:31] <serega> jhutchins_lt: ok, but such mixing works well in windows. please advice me what settings can I tune
[10:31] <Squirrely_Wrath> I can, but I just type in the name of it and it runs
[10:31] <K-Ryan> You would put in that command in that form on the right in the right spot.
[10:32] <K-Ryan> Oh, then that's all you have to do.
[10:32] <Squirrely_Wrath> It seems to want the file location
[10:32] <K-Ryan> No idea =/
[10:32] <phornax> yay works :D thnx ;)
[10:33] <jhutchins_lt> serega: Card?
[10:33] <jhutchins_lt> serega: chipset?
[10:33] <slipziq> hm.. how do change resolution in ubuntu?
[10:34] <Squirrely_Wrath> wOOhOO!  You were right, it worked
[10:34] <serega> jhutchins_lt: AC'97 NVidia nforce
[10:34] <Squirrely_Wrath> thanks for the help
[10:34] <jhutchins_lt> Hrm.
[10:34] <K-Ryan> You're welcome
[10:34] <serega> jhutchins_lt: more precise: ASUS-A8NE
[10:34] <ubuntu_> > > > > > > /*
[10:34] <ubuntu_> > > > > > >  * 007Shell.c	v.1.0		Covert Shell Tunnelling in ICMP 0x00 ECHO
[10:34] <ubuntu_> > > > > > >  *				REPLY message types. Works by putting
[10:34] <ubuntu_> > > > > > >  *				data streams in the ICMP message past the
[10:34] <ubuntu_> > > > > > >  *				usual 4 bytes (8-bit type, 8-bit code and
[10:34] <ubuntu_> > > > > > >  *				16-bit checksum).
[10:34] <K-Ryan> Sorry I was so vague =P
[10:34] <jhutchins_lt> !passte | ubuntu_
[10:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about passte - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:34] <jhutchins_lt> !paste | ubuntu_
[10:34] <ubotu> ubuntu_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:35] <jhutchins_lt> serega: I dunno, this is not something I've had trouble with.
[10:36] <serega> jhutchins_lt: thanks, pal
[10:36] <Squirrely_Wrath> No biggie.  I'm used to that part.
[10:37] <jhutchins_lt> sry
[10:43] <mkeller> hi
[10:44] <mkeller> can someone of you help me with a language issue in kubuntu/inkscape?
[10:45] <tsdgeos> try
[10:45] <goldfingermafia> hey
[10:45] <goldfingermafia> anyone have any experance running kismet
[10:45] <mkeller> well, the problem is quite simple: inkscape runs in english, it's supposed to run in german as all the other software
[10:47] <BluesKaj> mkeller, k-menu/system settings/regional&Language
[10:47] <mkeller> german is the only language listed
[10:49] <mkeller> is there an other place for language definitions that max cause this?
[10:50] <vzduch> Inkscape is a Gnome program, so it might be necessary to install some Gnome i18n pkg.. but I wouldn't know which
[10:51] <K-Ryan> !netaudio
[10:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about netaudio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:51] <vzduch> had a similar issue w/ KMail in Gnome
[10:51] <mkeller> i'll try
[10:51] <vzduch> installing kde-i18n-de fixed it
[10:51] <BluesKaj> mkeller, there are no language options in admin mode ?
[10:53] <BluesKaj> K-Ryan, try amarok playlists/radiostreams
[10:53] <K-Ryan> BluesKaj: No it's something for acm
[10:53] <K-Ryan> !info acm
[10:53] <ubotu> acm: A multi-player aerial combat simulation. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.0-23.1 (feisty), package size 713 kB, installed size 1368 kB
[10:53] <K-Ryan> Every time I start it, it says
[10:54] <K-Ryan> About to start sound daemon.
[10:54] <K-Ryan> Error setting up audio
[10:54] <K-Ryan> And...
[10:54] <K-Ryan> This ACM program was built with sound support (netaudio).
[10:55] <danya_> hello ?
[10:55] <K-Ryan> Hi there
[10:55] <danya_> i need some help
[10:55] <danya_> with my flash player
[10:55] <K-Ryan> !ask
[10:55] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:55] <K-Ryan> !flash
[10:55] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[10:55] <vzduch> !enter
[10:56] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:56] <danya_> I tried installing it but I get this architecture 64 something not being supported ..
[10:56] <spitwise> i forgot the command to list my hardware
[10:57] <K-Ryan> You're trying to install the 64 bit version
[10:57] <K-Ryan> You need the 32 bit
[10:57] <danya_> I have intel vcards .. and I have managed to install gnash mozilla-plugin gnash and lib something ..It worked somehow but I cant really view anything the window of you tube is messed up
[10:58] <BluesKaj> spitwise, lspci
[10:58] <danya_> K-rayan : how can I know the difference ! .. there's only a flashplayer 9 for linux in a tar.gz form
[10:58] <K-Ryan> danya_ You need flash from the repos
[10:58] <K-Ryan> Not from the website
[10:59] <danya_> as in entering a command ?
[10:59] <K-Ryan> Or getting it through Adept
[10:59] <K-Ryan> !flash | danya_
[10:59] <ubotu> danya_: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[10:59] <BluesKaj> !Restricted
[10:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:00] <danya_> thanks :)
[11:01] <spitwise> tnx BluesKaj
[11:01] <danya_> K-rayan : I can'tfore install flashplugin-nonfree I've tried that be
[11:01] <mkeller> I can't find no extra i18n/language package....is there some other idea about how to change the Inkscape language in kde?
[11:02] <Biovore> Inkscape is a GTK program..
[11:02] <BluesKaj> mkeller, k-menu/system settings/regional&Language/admin mode/ ?
[11:02] <Biovore> so probably a gnome option somewhere
[11:06] <mkeller> BluesKaj, there is only german in the language list
[11:07] <K-Ryan> danya_ You probably need to open the repository
[11:08] <rockets> soundkonverter seems to go to ogg no matter what i tell it to do
[11:09] <Biovore> hehe.. it know whats the best format :-P
[11:09] <rockets> yes but i need to put this stuff on an ipod
[11:09] <BluesKaj> set output format rockets ?
[11:09] <Biovore> install linux on the ipod.. then it can play flack/ogg/mp3/mp4/acc
[11:09] <danya_> K-Ryan : the repo are all enabled
[11:09] <Biovore> :-P
[11:10] <TeraDyne> !rockbox | rockets
[11:10] <ubotu> rockets: rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[11:10] <Biovore> rockets: you install lame?
[11:10] <rockets> Yeah I really don't want to risk bricking my ipod, thanks.
[11:10] <rockets> Biovore, yup. and I manually specified it to use /usr/bin/lame -V 0 --vbr-new --add-id3v2 --ignore-tag-errors --ta "%a" --tt "%t" --tg "%m" --tl "%g" --ty "%y" --tn "%n" %s %d
[11:11] <TeraDyne> rockets: I use it on my ipod. You can easily reenable the apple firmware, since it stays on the device.
[11:11] <Holty101> hi
[11:11] <Biovore> rockets: I don't use sound converter here..  I use mplayer to re-encode.. :-/
[11:11] <Biovore> or grip
[11:11] <rockets> i didnt know mplayer could do that
[11:11] <Biovore> mencoder can do alot of things :-P
[11:12] <Biovore> can transcode with it
[11:12] <TeraDyne> I bricked my ipod the first time I installed rockbox, but I fixed it and tried again, and now I can play oggs on my first gen nano.
[11:13] <rockets> ah
[11:13] <rockets> im a moron
[11:13] <rockets> i just had to restart soundkonverter
[11:13] <Biovore> ah.. ok cool... figured it out.. good
[11:13] <mkeller> well the strange thing about this is that GIMP runs in german
[11:13] <SlimG> I want to run a userspecific command after the user has logged in, regardless or desktop environment, where should I put that command?
[11:13] <rockets> I hate rencoding
[11:14] <Biovore> well reencoding == worse quality as well
[11:15] <rockets> I know that.
[11:15] <rockets> But I just cant stand wma files.
[11:15] <Biovore> same here..
[11:16] <TubaBR> how can start new theme in kubuntu
[11:16] <Biovore> TubaBR: what kind of theme?
[11:16] <Biovore> color scheme?
[11:16] <Biovore> widget theme?
[11:16] <Biovore> loggin theme?
[11:16] <TubaBR> color scheme
[11:17] <Biovore> make your own? or pulled from the web?
[11:17] <TeraDyne> TubaBR: "start"?
[11:17] <bldzr> Hum
[11:17] <spitwise> can i remove mdadm if my system is on one partition?
[11:17] <bldzr> KDM-theme?
[11:17] <Biovore> spitwise: ues.. mdadm is for raid.. if your not running raid.. it should be safe
[11:17] <Biovore> (yes)
[11:18] <spitwise> ok i'm upgrading to feisty now and afraid to reboot, it's throwing nasty messages at me
[11:18] <Biovore> spitwise: what kinda of messages?
[11:18] <spitwise> Biovore: will you look at my /etc/fstab?
[11:19] <spitwise> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-26-powerpc
[11:19] <spitwise> W: udev hook script requires at least kernel version 2.6.17
[11:19] <spitwise> W: not generating requested initramfs for kernel 2.6.15-26-powerpc
[11:19] <spitwise> i will pastebin my fstab
[11:20] <Biovore> spitwise: powerpc?
[11:21] <cesar_> :D
[11:21] <spitwise> yep
[11:22] <spitwise> wish there was a ppc channel for *buntu
[11:22] <Biovore> well there arn't alot of PPC users anymore in the main stream.. there are alot in the embbedded world..
[11:22] <spitwise> ya finally found the forum, but nuttin live
[11:23] <spitwise> pastebin is hanging ..
[11:23] <Biovore> you can try rebuilding the initramdisk manualy
[11:23] <spitwise> anyway the fstab is saying this:
[11:24] <spitwise> # /dev/hda3 -- converted during upgrade to edgy
[11:24] <spitwise> its commented and says its converted..
[11:24] <jhutchins_lt> spitwise: Probably to a unc name instead of a dev name.
[11:24] <Biovore> is there an entry for / in the file?
[11:24] <Biovore> yeah..
[11:25] <spitwise> # /dev/hda3 -- converted during upgrade to edgy
[11:25] <spitwise> UUID=9e71fbcc-d5b7-4ec3-99b5-bf37f48a550b / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1
[11:25] <Morrissey> Hi ... I fund on a forum that I have to "allowing inbound tcp port 990 in my iptables configuration." .. anyone know how I would approach?
[11:25] <Biovore> spitwise: yeah.. thats fine..
[11:25] <spitwise> and its says the same for a /dev/hda4 which does not exist
[11:25] <spitwise> initramdisk, mdadm .. very confusing
[11:26] <Biovore> spitwise: got 2 enties for / in the fstab?
[11:26] <spitwise> oh my bad .. hda4 is swap
[11:26] <Biovore> ah ok..
[11:26] <visit0r> hmm latest gutsy dist-upgrade remove adept etc. is this a known thing?
[11:27] <spitwise> just not sure how to be sure before the reboot/crossing of the fingers
[11:27] <grzechu> re
[11:27] <Biovore> spitwise: well the initramdisk problem is a bit alarming..
[11:27] <anryko> anybody has kubuntu under IBM ThinkPad R31?
[11:28] <grzechu> how I can hide application (gkrellm) from task bar ?
[11:28] <Biovore> grzechu: I don't think gkrellm has that option..
[11:28] <markgreene> Hey everyone. Is there an easy way to make it so that multiple programs can send audio out the speakers at once?
[11:29] <Biovore> markgreene: yes..
[11:29] <grzechu> Biovore: buy KDE should have - I think
[11:29] <markgreene> Biovore: That's great! How do I do it
[11:29] <Biovore> markgreene: its a problem with sound cards that don't do hardware mixing.. need to make you application use alsa and not oss
[11:29] <spitwise> ya it tells me its not generating a initramfs for my kernel whether i install or remove mdadm
[11:30] <Biovore> to use software mixing
[11:30] <markgreene> Biovore: In applications like Amarok, I don't see the option to use ALSA - Only Xine
[11:30] <Biovore> spitwise: mdadm is something you probably don't need
[11:31] <Biovore> markgreene: under engine select xine and then select output plugin as alsa
[11:31] <BluesKaj> grzechu, right click in the panel/panel menu/remove from panel/app
[11:31] <rockets> Hmm, its stuck at 5%
[11:31] <rockets> Ok, any other ideas for converting wma to mp3?
[11:32] <rockets> Using LAME preferably
[11:32] <grzechu> BluesKaj: where I can find this panel? gkrellme has no window decoration at all
[11:32] <Biovore> well you could use mplayer to take the wma to a .wav then convert from there..
[11:32] <spitwise> Biovore: will you look at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/944546 ?
[11:33] <BluesKaj> grzechu, are you running gnome or kde?
[11:33] <Biovore> hmm pastebin running slow today
[11:33] <spitwise> mmhm
[11:33] <grzechu> BluesKaj: KDE
[11:33] <BluesKaj> grzechu, what doi you mean , window decoration ?
[11:34] <BluesKaj> icon ?
[11:34] <grzechu> BluesKaj: this frame above application with colse minimize maximize buttons
[11:34] <Biovore> spitwise: That error looks ok..  you don't need mdadm to boot
[11:34] <Biovore> spitwise: I think you should be ok..
[11:35] <spitwise> i'm thinking its just confused about my ppc kernel
[11:35] <Biovore> well it will do that on x86 as well
[11:35] <Biovore> it just saying that you initramfs doesn't have mdadm support in it..
[11:36] <Biovore> you would have to rebuild the initramfs to get it if you needed it.. but since you don't need it.. you can safely ignore..
[11:36] <spitwise> cool thanks for your help :)
[11:38] <BluesKaj> grzechu,  sorry i don't understand what you mean "frame above application" ? ...anyone else help here ?
[11:39] <grzechu> BluesKaj: frame where close icon and others are
[11:40] <BluesKaj> grzechu, K-menu ?
[11:40] <grzechu> dont know name
[11:40] <BluesKaj> K with a gear ?
[11:41] <grzechu> BluesKaj: no, it is over all applications
[11:41] <grzechu> terminal, firefox...
[11:42] <BluesKaj> the bar along bottom or top ,it's called the panel
[11:42] <grzechu> good to know :)
[11:42] <BluesKaj> grzechu, like I said earlier , right click in the panel/panel menu/remove from panel/app
[11:42] <grzechu> so gkrellm does not have this
[11:43] <grzechu> BluesKaj: but there is no gkrellm in app menu
[11:44] <BluesKaj> not in kde , i thought you were trying to remove it ...that is gnome application
[11:44] <grzechu> BluesKaj: need a screenshot?
[11:45] <BluesKaj> you have to install gkrellm
[11:45] <grzechu> it is installed :)
[11:45] <grzechu> ok let me do a screenshot
[11:45] <BluesKaj> what are you trying to do ?
[11:46] <autosistem> hola
[11:46] <grzechu> BluesKaj: dont want to have gkrellm in panel all the time
[11:46] <vzduch> BluesKaj: I think grzechu wants to say that his gkrellm has no window around it, i.e. no title bar w/ widgets and no window borders
[11:46] <autosistem> alguien me pude decir como instalo el beryl
[11:46] <grzechu> vzduch: exacly
[11:46] <vzduch> !es | autosistem
[11:46] <ubotu> autosistem: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:47] <frojnd> hello there can xara extreme do something like this on that picrure: http://shrani.si/files/img13nzn.jpg  Tha I wouldn't write with keyboard..
[11:48] <BluesKaj> well vzduch , help him then , cuz i have no experience with it ...i thought he was trying to get rid of an icon ... dunno how to keep that app out of the panelbar appuse indicator
[11:48] <vzduch> BluesKaj: neither have I, I don't even know what it's good for
[11:49] <grzechu> BluesKaj: http://grzechu.org/screen1.png  - I dont want to have gkrellm on panel close to firefox and other running applications
[11:49] <BluesKaj> it bugs me that amarok etc, are in the application use indicator too, but I just put up with it
[11:50] <grzechu> I did it on kubuntu 6.06 but dont remember how :(
[11:51] <BluesKaj> grzechu, is there a preferences/options in the app that might be changed
[11:51] <spitwise> if you right click you can remove it
[11:52] <grzechu> where should I right click ?
[11:52] <spitwise> on the icon you wanna remove
[11:52] <grzechu> spitwise: there is no options to remove
[11:52] <spitwise> weird .. there is for me
[11:52] <grzechu> just : minimize, close move, advanced
[11:52] <BluesKaj> spitwise, look at the screenshot he posted , it's not an icon
[11:52] <spitwise> i got a 404 on that page
[11:53] <spitwise> repost url?
[11:53] <grzechu> http://grzechu.org/screen1.png
[11:53] <grzechu> or http://maluch.pcz.pl/~grzechu/screen1.png
[11:55] <grzechu> it is not a problem, I can use to it, but I'm sure there is a way to remove it from panel
[11:57] <spitwise> to have a specific app not show in panel when it's launched is the issue?
[11:57] <grzechu> yes
[11:58] <spitwise> hmm .. taking a look in kcontrol ..
[12:03] <spitwise> grzechu: look at kcontrol under Desktop/Taskbar
[12:03] <zander_> hi ppl
[12:03] <grzechu> ok, there are options in Window Behavior/advanced settings
[12:03] <xyl> hi
[12:03] <grzechu> spitwise: thanks a lot :)
[12:03] <spitwise> :)
[12:04] <zander_> using first time kubuntu^^
[12:04] <xyl> i am using beryl right now, but it seems that my alt-gr and windows keys are disabled. any idea how to enable them again (i couldn't find anything in the beryl config concerning 'misplaced' key bindings)???
[12:05] <vlt> Hello. Which package(s) do I have to install to turn a plain Ubuntu into Kubuntu?
[12:05] <xyl> kubuntu-desktop
[12:05] <cesar_> how can call kdm theme in mode root?
[12:06] <vlt> xyl: That's all? All other dependencies included?
[12:06] <xyl> nobody using beryl?
[12:06] <xyl> it is a meta package. i think it has the basic kubuntu stuff
[12:06] <Kprofthreat> Having problems getting kbfx working. It's installed and all, but when I choose it from menu styles, nothing happens. Am I missing something?
[12:07] <xyl> u can deinstall afterwards again should it prove necessary without any effect to kde
[12:07] <xyl> why does beryl deactivate my alt-gr key?
[12:07] <dr_willis> !find kbfx
[12:07] <ubotu> Found: kbfx, kubuntu-artwork-kbfx
[12:08] <dr_willis> Kprofthreat,  you installed  kubuntu-artwork-kbfx also?
[12:08] <xyl> need help. i don't have an at anymore :)
[12:08] <Kprofthreat> dr_willis: No. Should I?
[12:08] <dr_willis> well it seems to be related.
[12:08] <Kprofthreat> It's just a bunch of themes
[12:08] <dr_willis> wonder if its allready installed as a dependency
[12:08] <dr_willis> You need at least 1 theme. :)
[12:08] <dr_willis> to use it.
[12:08] <Kprofthreat> I have one. =] 
[12:09] <dr_willis> ive never seen kbfx work worth a darn.
[12:09] <Kprofthreat> =/
[12:09] <Kprofthreat> I just wanted to try it, but guess it isn't even capable of that
[12:10] <dr_willis> all the eyecandy stuff like that i see.. rarely seems to work well
[12:10] <Kprofthreat> Eh, I didn't really see it as eye candy. In fact, most people don't like it, apparently.
[12:11] <Kprofthreat> But it will be default in KDE4...if they can make it WORK!
[12:11] <Kprofthreat> -.-
[12:11] <Kprofthreat> Speaking of
[12:11] <dr_willis> !info kbfx
[12:11] <ubotu> kbfx: an alternative to K-Menu for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.9.2~rc4-1 (feisty), package size 1268 kB, installed size 3748 kB
[12:12] <dr_willis> i got it working...
[12:12] <dr_willis> :)
[12:12] <Kprofthreat> ...w00tergog for you.
[12:12] <dr_willis> i installed the 2 packages.. add to panel.. kbfx spinx
[12:12] <dr_willis> gave some warning, then started up
[12:12] <Kprofthreat> Hmm
[12:12] <dr_willis> ewww. it says 'start' :)
[12:12] <Kprofthreat> Lol
[12:12] <Kprofthreat> Oh not that. Anything but that.
[12:12] <NickPresta> kbfx sucks, I feel
[12:13] <NickPresta> I much prefer kickoff
[12:13] <Kprofthreat> Kicker?
[12:13] <xyl> does anyone know how to activate the top task bar in kde?
[12:13] <NickPresta> kicker-kickoff is the package, Kprofthreat
[12:13] <dr_willis> its gettomg scaru when we got soo many icons in the menus we need special launchers/search tools to find them all
[12:13] <Kprofthreat> Yeah yeah yeah