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[09:31] it's a Mithrandir! [09:31] indeed, it is. === Hobbsee hugs Mithrandir === Mithrandir hugs Hobbsee back [09:32] Mithrandir: are you still in norway, or in london now? [09:32] how's your sunday afternoon? [09:32] leaving for London this early evening. [09:32] Mithrandir: well, i was working. so... === Hobbsee had one guy telling her she was cute. *shrugs* [09:32] and it was quiet - hooray! [09:33] sounds good. [09:33] being told you're cute is nice though? As long as it's done in a nice and polite fashion. [09:33] sure. as long as there isnt a look in the teller's eyes of "oh i wish i could date you" or worse. [09:33] yup === Hobbsee has now changed her real name on her client, to attempt to reduce harassment. [09:34] will see how well it works [09:34] you have? [09:34] (or at least, it'll change when i reconnect) [09:34] ah, ok. === Hobbsee bashes all the harassers with a large hammer. 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Asking for support in here is inappropriate in any case. [11:30] hiya Martin [11:32] <|Cordyce|> what is answer tracker [11:32] https://answers.launchpad.net/ [11:35] Can somebody with appropriate superpowers please check what ate all sparc binaries for dcc 1.3.42-4build1? === RAOF [n=chris@123-243-65-41.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:43] aquo: I don't think that's possible with current initramfs-tools without some additional hacking === doug__ [n=doug@81.168.44.177] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jetscreamer [n=jetscrea@unaffiliated/jetscreamer] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:50] Fujitsu: nothing as such - but for some reason the cron.daily that was busy processing it seems to have got stuck [11:50] so it's actually in the archive on drescher but not mirrored [11:50] cjwatson: Ah, right. So LP is right when it says it's published. [11:50] yeah [11:51] cjwatson: Thanks for looking at that. Any idea when it'll be resolved? [11:51] I'm sorting it out [11:51] Thanks. [11:53] Fujitsu: I've killed the hung process, so with any luck the next cron.daily will proceed normally, and those binaries should be visible in maybe three-quarters of an hour [11:54] cjwatson: Right, thanks. [11:54] if they aren't, wait another 15 minutes or so beyond that and then ask me again === Fujitsu wonders how it can take so long. [11:54] cron.daily doesn't start until :03 [11:55] normally it would finish around :30 or so [11:55] I thought it was around :40, but that's still a rather long time. === iceman__ [n=iceman@cable-87-244-153-189.upc.chello.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:56] Anyway, thanks for looking into that. [11:56] mm. a lot of it's (1) apt-ftparchive and (2) death row processing (which needs to walk timestamps in the pool, IIRC) [11:57] Doesn't it have a table it can look death row candidates up in? [11:58] actually, yeah, looking at it, it does seem to be a honking great SELECT === hunger_t [n=tobias@p54A71B76.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:59] Still, that's surely only... 5 architectures * 22000 binaries * 4 releases + sources... I guess that's a few. [11:59] I'm not sure, could be insufficient db indexing, could be badly optimised SELECTs so that it has to read big wodges of stuff into python [11:59] I'm not enough of a postgresql expert to be able to tell === Fujitsu decides to leave the LP deep magic alone. === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Kmos [n=gothicx@unaffiliated/kmos] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ivoks [n=ivoks@38-202.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Monk-e [n=guido-xu@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === pochu [n=emilio@4.Red-88-3-54.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wattazoum [n=wattazou@ant06-1-82-242-110-34.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:33] greetings all [12:34] greetings Hobbsee [12:34] :) [12:35] Hi Hobbsee. [12:35] hi Fujitsu, ajmitch === Fujitsu hopes cron.daily finishes this time. [12:36] it wont. it hates you [12:38] Heh [12:39] Of course, my very evil dcc sparc binaries caused it choke. [12:48] Fujitsu: you're quite right - there's a clear inefficiency there. I'm writing a mail to the launchpad list now with an analysis and a suggested patch === Fujitsu wonders how the heck he could have identified a clear inefficiency without having any significant idea of what it does. === cassidy [n=cassidy@80.87-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:50] cjwatson: And it seems to have not completed this hour either. === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:51] *s*S [12:51] -S === slomo [n=slomo@85.183.223.3] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:58] cpr [12:58] Oops. === Fujitsu attacks the kitten. === Hobbsee rescues the kitten, and demands that Fujitsu do some revu'ing. [01:01] Fujitsu: no, it worked fine this time [01:01] slomo: liferea has released 1.4~rc1. The major feature in 1.4 is comments in the feeds are now displayed. I'm using it, and it seems stable here. Since there are still more than 3 months for Gutsy's release, do you think it's a good idea to upload it, so we can test and debug it? Or better wait for the final release? === Nafallo stops playing music for his neighbors :-) [01:02] cjwatson: I can't see those sparc binaries on archive.u.c. [01:02] pochu: when is the final release? :-) [01:02] Fujitsu: I think the mirroring must be still in progress or something [01:02] oh, hmm, the Packages files for sparc still say -4 [01:02] cjwatson: Ah, I normally see it done by about 20 minutes ago. [01:03] what the hell is going on? [01:03] Nafallo: as soon as there are no major bugs ;) Probably in a couple of weeks or so. [01:03] That's... odd. So maybe it did get eaten? [01:03] well, no, the binaries ARE on disk [01:03] pochu: well, it IS development version :-P [01:03] But apt-ftparchive didn't pick them up? [01:03] pochu: but yea, wait for slomo :-) [01:03] there was nothing to publish this time round, so apt-ftparchive wasn't run [01:04] Haha. [01:04] I reckon that after I killed cron.daily, it didn't put the new dists tree in place [01:04] Nafallo: maybe we should wait for at least an rc2... [01:04] so it needs another real item to publish to get back in sync [01:05] cjwatson: Process the sync queue :P [01:05] pochu: ask them if the final release will definitely be ~2 weeks before gutsy release... and then let's upload it :) [01:05] pochu: you might want to build one, throw it around to some more people and make them report if it's stable for them :-) [01:05] cjwatson: If you want to kick something in, sync kwave from incoming.d.o, it's one more nail in libflac++5's coffin. :-) [01:06] pochu: /me and slomo are such people that will want to try it out ;-) [01:06] Fujitsu: not on a Sunday :P [01:06] I can do one though ... [01:06] cjwatson: Hence the `:P' [01:06] cjwatson: bah. i'ts almost mondya [01:07] hell, wait 55 mins, then it really is monday. [01:07] In which timezone? [01:07] Oh, right. NZ. [01:07] nz, i believe [01:07] Nafallo, slomo: http://emilio.pozuelo.org/~liferea/liferea_1.4~rc1-ubuntu1_i386.deb ;) === Nafallo grabs [01:08] pochu: thanks :) === Fujitsu whispers `PPA' [01:08] pochu: just tell me when upstream promised to release early enough ;) [01:08] slomo: they told me it might need a couple of RCs more, but that they will try to release them every week. So 2 RCs * 1 week = 2 weeks :) === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:09] Fujitsu: server? :-) [01:09] sabdfl: morning Mark :-) [01:09] pochu: good, source package is at the usual place? [01:10] hey Nafallo [01:10] sabdfl: how's life? :-) [01:10] good! off to wimbledon now :-) [01:11] lucky you! [01:11] nice :-) [01:11] Fujitsu: inefficiency> well, you got me to stop assuming that it was slow because it was walking the disk [01:12] StevenK: done [01:12] cjwatson: Ah, right. I didn't think it would be /that/ stupid. [01:12] (kwave) [01:12] cjwatson: It has missed this run, hasn't it? [01:12] slomo: to upload to ubuntu? I have to make a couple of changes (e.g. remove changelogs and that...) [01:12] Fujitsu: yeah [01:13] pochu: yes, this evening then :) bbl === ompaul_ [n=ompaul@194.125.58.117] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:14] slomo: ok, will upload to it soon. Thanks! === ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:20] cjwatson: Ohh, thanks! === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:38] hi persia === crdlb [n=chrisw@pool-72-82-89-158.nrflva.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:38] Hi Hobbsee === yaccin [n=yaccin@p57A7783A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:45] didnt somebody yesterday say, that there were new kopete packages later that day? ^^ [02:01] yaccin: not here they didnt, and i said that i'd fix it [02:01] for gutsy, at least. [02:02] however, i was working on my paid job today, so i may not be doing as much ubuntu stuff tonight. [02:02] seeing as i take breaks occasionally - especially when it's not in the european working week, which means it's quiet here :) [02:04] slomo: done :) http://emilio.pozuelo.org/~deb/ [02:04] oh only for gutsy :/ === mruiz [n=mruiz@ubuntu/member/mruiz] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:05] hmm can you tell me, how i can fix it on feisty? :D [02:05] well, i'ts a pain to build for multiple releases for every patch [02:05] sure, take the patch, apply it to the feisty source, build it === mruiz [n=mruiz@ubuntu/member/mruiz] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Bye!"] [02:05] i know how to compile stuff, but i dont know where i get the fixed sources [02:05] or how to apply a patch :D === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:08] but if you can tell me, where i can download that stuff, ill try :) [02:09] oh... and is checkinstall fixed or still buggy [02:09] if it is ill use the edgy-version [02:09] checkinstall is always crap. [02:10] but i dont know any other programms to build packages :/ [02:11] and id love to set up a repo for the packages ive done so far, but i dont know how :( [02:12] what i'd like to do is go and triage some kopete bugs, send them upstream, etc, and get patches for more bis [02:12] *bits === licio [n=licio@ubuntu/member/licio] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pygi [n=mario@83-131-87-102.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === keyes [n=keyes@easyubuntu/keyes] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:19] hi pygi [02:19] heya Hobbsee === Hobbsee wonders when mvo gets back. [02:30] pygi: hey! are you working on brasero ftbfs? :P [02:30] Hobbsee: can you tell me, where i can get that patch? or is the patch already in the sources from kopete.kde.org? [02:30] mr_pouit, yea, I'm on it [02:31] yaccin: it's the one linked on the bug report, in svn [02:31] mr_pouit, I'll upload a new version tomorrow [02:31] it's also the attachment before the SVN commit, i think [02:31] mr_pouit, is 0.6.0 out? [02:31] pygi: ok (please check if the patch properly applies before :P) [02:31] pygi: afaik, no [02:31] mr_pouit, ok, and I'll check everything, ofcourse === ryu [n=chris@unaffiliated/ryu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:37] Yay, apt-ftparchive ran again :) [02:37] mr_pouit, I know what's the problem anyway ^_^ [02:39] ^^ === ryu [n=chris@unaffiliated/ryu] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Gone] === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-6-43.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hikenboot [n=hikenboo@c-66-31-117-52.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === glatzor [n=renate@p57AEF7FD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:50] greetings all-- cat packages_removable-final.txt | cut -f 1 --delimiter=, | xargs apt-get remove --purge causes all the listed packages to be removed at once. I would like to remove each one and prompt between each package listed so I can see which one is removing packages I do not wish---any idea how? [02:51] xargs -n1 [02:52] apt-get will prompt whenever more than just the package you asked for is to be removed === cassidy [n=cassidy@80.87-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:53] apt-get -s if you just want to simulate each in turn [02:53] so if I am feeding it from a list that will do one at a time? [02:53] yes [02:53] thanks [02:53] --max-args=max-args, -n max-args [02:53] Use at most max-args arguments per command line. Fewer than max-args arguments will be used if the size (see the -s option) is exceeded, unless the -x option is given, in which case xargs [02:53] will exit. [02:54] thanks! [02:54] i thought I would have to do it with a for loop some how === yondie [n=yondie@161.63.48.60.trm01-home.tm.net.my] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Kmos [n=gothicx@unaffiliated/kmos] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ryu [n=chris@unaffiliated/ryu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _TomB [n=tomb@host81-153-8-121.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === evand [n=evand@ubuntu/member/evand] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hjmf [n=hjmf@150.Red-83-44-175.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Loevborg [n=loevborg@dslb-084-056-046-104.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === giftnudel [n=mb@Ybe8f.y.pppool.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-f8e5b6348173e669] has joined #ubuntu-devel === glatzor_ [n=renate@p57AEF7FD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:50] ok [03:50] i build kopete [03:50] and the bug is gone [03:50] but also is the option to hide the scrollbar -_- === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-129-140.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === alex-weej [n=alex@82.23.188.238] has joined #ubuntu-devel === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:06] cjwatson: I know it's weekend and all, but if you feel so inclined would you mind checking why kwave hasn't got any builds at all, even though the source was published 2 hours ago? [04:07] StevenK: he's probably on a plain - or waiting at the airport, or something [04:08] "plain", you say? === StevenK grins, and ducks. [04:09] StevenK: Because soyuz is doing crazy things? cron.daily was having issues with publishing them to the outside world, so I'm sure it'll find an excuse to not publish sources internally. [04:09] er, plane === Hobbsee beats StevenK [04:09] Ouch! [04:09] Fujitsu: Mmmm, more Soyuz breakage fun. [04:10] That's right :) [04:11] was there a LP rollout again in the last days? === IanC26 [n=IanC26@2002:908b:a587:4:216:6fff:fe39:ff6e] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:11] geser: We're about half way between releases at the moment, so nought but cherrypicks. [04:12] https://launchpad.net/+builds/kohnen -> it's normal the status of this machine [04:12] ? === StevenK patches muse, and waits for roughly 25 minutes to see whether it builds or not. [04:13] Kmos: It's hppa, which was last bootstrapped for dapper. [04:13] Kmos: It's hppa, and it's likely that nobody really cares during the weekend. [04:13] If you look, you'll notice that no builds for hppa get registered. [04:13] Particularly due to the fact it'll only dodapper-updates, yes. === huahua [n=huahua@60.20.49.27] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:13] Fujitsu: so any admins to fix it. [04:13] that's bad [04:14] Kmos: not. on. a. weekend. [04:14] Why does it fixing? It's *allowed* to be idle. [04:14] Kmos: And particularly not because it's hppa. [04:14] need fixing, even [04:14] It might get used every few months. [04:14] It's not broken, ergo, it doesn't need fixing. [04:14] It's not rocket science. [04:15] :) === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=j_ack@p508D8EB0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tormod [n=tormod@80-219-112-71.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Tuxist [n=jan@host-091-096-197-103.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:38] hi === superm1__ [n=superm1@66-188-198-184.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:45] why you build openldap packages without sql support ? === iwj [n=ian@xenophobe.extern.relativity.greenend.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:48] Perhaps it's not a typical use case [04:48] !weekend [04:48] It's a weekend. Often on weekends, the paid developers, and a lot of the community, may not be around to answer your question. Please be patient, wait longer than you normally would, or try again during the working week. [04:50] Hobbsee: or a mailing list, bug reporting? === jsgotangco_ [n=jsg123@125.212.16.110] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:50] realist: that too === ryu [n=chris@unaffiliated/ryu] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Gone] === highvoltage [n=highvolt@broadband-196-1-61-39.amobia.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kent [n=kent@82.145.145.164] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:12] Hobbsee: it looks like I got apt building [05:12] geser: yay! [05:12] the last missing build-depends is docbook [05:12] Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 5.0), libdb4.4-dev, gettext (>= 0.12), libcurl4-gnutls-dev (>= 7.15.5), automake, xsltproc, docbook-xsl, xmlt [05:12] o, docbook [05:13] broken line-wrap [05:13] that's the B-D line it tested the last build attempt [05:13] automake or autoconf? [05:14] automake Depends on autoconf [05:14] the last one died over autoconf, i thought [05:14] ah === Toadstool [n=jcorbier@cl-266.bru-01.be.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:14] you need both but automake installs autoconf, so I wouldn't list it [05:15] ah right === Hobbsee tries === mc44_ [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pochu [n=emilio@4.Red-88-3-54.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mc44_ is now known as mc44 === hackeron [n=hackeron@gentoo/user/hackeron] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:27] when is asterisk going to be fixed in gutsy? (any why was libcurl3 deprecated without testing what it breaks) [05:27] asterisk was fixed 2 days ago. === blueCommand [n=bluecomm@unaffiliated/bluecommand] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:28] And actually, it's the other way around. [05:30] geser: holy hell, this actually builds [05:31] Heh, upload it, quick. [05:31] i'd prefer to test first... [05:31] StevenK: errr, not here -- complains about libcurl3-gnutls [05:31] Then I suspect your mirror is out of date. [05:32] hackeron: does it perhaps want to deinstall OO.o? [05:32] I tried 4 mirrors already [05:32] Oh, that could be it. [05:32] Openoffice.org is still waiting to be fixed. [05:32] was it uploaded today? [05:32] was about to say that :-) [05:32] That's a question for calc. [05:33] it wasnt [05:33] doko had some changes he wanted to make [05:33] geser: err, no, apt doesn't mention openoffice [05:33] hackeron: does here. [05:34] StevenK: there was an OO.o upload today, amd64, powerpc and sparc are building now and i386 failed to build [05:34] language-support-sv, libcurl4-gnutls, openoffice.org*, python-uno :-) === mthaddon [n=mthaddon@canonical/launchpad/mthaddon] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:35] all it says for me is these are being kept back: apt apt-utils libcurl4-gnutls vorbis-tools [05:35] when I apt-get install libcurl4-gnutls it says libcurl3-gnutls unavailable [05:35] try apt-get install libcurl3-gnutls [05:36] hackeron: its not ready to be updated yet [05:37] geser: hmm, yeah, that works openoffice removed === superm1_ [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:38] ok, I compiled my own asterisk and openoffice still works :) === Hobbsee uploads apt [05:47] Hobbsee: are you uploading all the other bits which depends on it too? [05:47] Mithrandir: i will, but i thought i had to wait until after it was built [05:47] Mithrandir: currently, no one's uploaded those other bits anyway, so it's in limbo now === Monk-e [n=guido-xu@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:48] yes, I know, and it's made me slightly annoyed that I have bits which are uninstallable. :-P [05:48] Mithrandir: haha. i didnt upload it the last 2 times. [05:48] Mithrandir: "you could just...you know...fix it." [05:48] yes, I could, if I had wanted to work even more than I already do. [05:48] :-P [05:49] this is true :P [05:49] and I didn't say I was annoyed at you, just that I was annoyed at it being uninstallable === Hobbsee wonders if you recognised the quote [05:49] hey now, my key was nowhere near it. it's got nothing to do with me. *holds hands up* [05:49] mine was only near the bzr section [05:49] :P [05:50] unsure what the original source for the quote was [05:50] twas you. [05:50] about beryl-crack, iirc. [05:51] about all the work arounds they were using === Hobbsee has a brain for detail, remember? === Hobbsee prods the australian shoestring. upload faster! [05:54] ah, ok. [05:54] Mithrandir: no, i'm not strange. i dont think. [05:55] raise hands for guadec attendence [05:55] only slightly. [05:55] Mithrandir: well, i'm insane enough to be involved in this, so... [05:55] desrt: I'm coming on Monday and Tuesday, possibly Sunday too, at least Sunday evening. [05:55] hiya desrt! [05:55] Hobbsee: strange != insane. :-) [05:55] Mithrandir; nice [05:55] I could prepare some debdiffs for apt's rdepends after Hobbsee uploads apt 0.7.2ubuntu6 [05:55] geser: it's OK - i ahve them here [05:56] Mithrandir; seems that you will miss my talk on sunday :( [05:57] and my talk on thursday too :p [05:57] desrt: I can buy you beer instead. [05:57] mmmm. beer. === desrt considers a sober guadec [05:57] Mithrandir: heh [05:57] desrt: not possible. surely [05:57] oh come on apt...upload... [05:57] Hobbsee; i dunno [05:57] desrt: let's smash that pondering. :-) [05:58] Hobbsee; it might be possible if i immediately go back to the hotel after the last talk [05:58] haha [05:58] hanging around in the common area outside of talks has a tendency to get you drunk [05:58] well, it was possible to mostly not drink at UDS, so... [05:58] Hobbsee: but we got even you to drink a tiny bit. [05:59] yeah. *shudder* [05:59] shudder? [05:59] cheap drunk? [05:59] Mithrandir: i'm sure you wouldnt want to see me drunk [05:59] it was decent bubbly wine. :-P [05:59] sure. i just dont like the taste of wine :P [05:59] desrt: i can go a bit crazy at times. also happens with large amounts of coke.; [06:00] well [06:00] cocain is a bit more of a serious matter than alcohol [06:00] of the red can variety... :P [06:00] gawd! [06:00] you snort it by the can-full? [06:00] hardcore [06:00] hahaha [06:00] oh dear [06:01] or of the glass bottle variety. either wya. [06:01] bottles or cans, you snort either? [06:01] :P [06:01] doesn't the glass hurt when it hits the nose? === desrt has had glass bottle coke exactly once [06:01] not if you do it right. [06:02] also, bubble in nose => badness. [06:02] bubbles, even [06:02] it was delicious. [06:02] ooh, plane. [06:02] Mithrandir; what hotel are you staying at? === Hobbsee removes the plane. [06:02] NOT YOURS. [06:02] Hobbsee: that's ok, I'm only going to use it for a little while. [06:02] Mithrandir: not even yours to borrow. [06:02] desrt: unsure, the 35 one on the accomodation page. [06:02] etap [06:03] Hobbsee: I'm just borrowing a seat. [06:03] yup, that's the one. [06:03] me too :D [06:03] not allowed either. [06:03] Karianne's coming for Friday, Saturday and Sunday morning. [06:03] bad Hobbsee! === desrt doesn't know karianne [06:03] bah. send her out here, i want to meet her :) [06:03] desrt: my wife, simira in here. [06:04] cool [06:04] Hobbsee: just come to london. Or Norway, I'm sure we could spare you space on the couch [06:04] what does she hack on? [06:04] Mithrandir: tempting. tempting. and it would be warm, too. [06:04] Mithrandir: i wish i could come to london. [06:04] Hobbsee; norway? warm? heh. [06:04] not much, she helps out with the norwegian ubuntu community and has done some translations. === johanbr [n=j@blk-224-156-151.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:05] desrt: well. it's winter here. it's summer there. it's supposed to be somewhat warm! [06:05] Hobbsee; "winter" in australia is a ficticious concept [06:05] desrt: heh [06:05] it goes down to what? 15? [06:05] desrt: and not all of us actually hack much, you know :P [06:05] 8 or so. [06:05] during the day [06:05] oo. that's cold. [06:05] goes down to 2C, or 0C, at night sometimes === TreMobyl [n=solarion@cruftix.physics.uiowa.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:06] depends where you are [06:06] ya. we get -40 in canada. === Hobbsee shudders === Hobbsee would not survive. [06:06] i shudder too. we all do. :p [06:06] unless i was piled in jackets, or something [06:06] you learn the value of owning a very good coat [06:07] would be more than one, i can tell you... [06:07] eh. canadian coat construction techniques are quite a lot better than you've probably ever seen :) [06:07] mmm. i want one for here, then. [06:08] Hobbsee: you must come to Norway and try my sheep's coat then. It's like a couple of sheep you wrap yourself in. [06:08] we also have toques [06:08] very comfy. [06:08] very warm [06:08] Mithrandir: hehe. bring it with you to boston, if i get there. [06:08] !! [06:08] might be a bit big for me though [06:08] boston is gonna be wild [06:08] Hobbsee: maybe, but it's slightly heavy. Like 10kg or so. [06:09] it's close enough that i might be able to roadtrip down with some friends [06:09] Mithrandir: way cool. then i'd be harder to pick up! [06:10] true dat [06:10] which would be good. less temptation for people to try to do mean things to me, like break me. [06:11] we could still throw you in the pool [06:11] you wouldnt, though. [06:12] I'm much too nice a person. === Hobbsee hides her still-somewhat-stuffed wrist away from all of you, and looks around warily. === Mithrandir enters the aircraft. [06:15] Mithrandir: did you feed the carrier pigeons before you got on? === desrt feels very much outside of an inside joke [06:16] desrt: clearly you never read elkbuntu's blog, after UDS [06:16] desrt: carrier pidgeons went on strike from singapore === elkbuntu tickles Hobbsee === Hobbsee tickles elkbuntu back :) === ryu [n=chris@unaffiliated/ryu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Adri2000_ [n=adri2000@ubuntu/member/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-devel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:41] oh yay, apt finally uploaded.! [06:42] Hobbsee, is apt what was breaking debootstrap lately? [06:42] dont remember. quite possible [06:42] hopefully:).... was getting a whole lot of these W: Failure while configuring base packages. This will be attempted 5 times. [06:45] ah and looking a little closer, it was libapt-pkg-libc6.5-6-4.4 which wasn't installable - i anticipate that was a binary result of the apt source package you uploaded? [06:45] yeah, that's to do with apt [06:46] great! :) [06:46] superm1: all of the apt-related stuff (synaptic, aptitude, adept, etc) needs to be rebuilt each time a change is made to apt, from what i understand [06:47] Hobbsee, is that sort of thing going to be automatic after your apt upload, or will each of those need to have a bug filed to be rebuilt as well? [06:48] superm1: wasnt planning on filing bugs for it [06:48] superm1: was planning to just update them in the morning [06:48] oh right your core-dev, you can just bump the changelog and reupload :) [06:48] it's all listed on gutsy_problems anyway [06:48] yeah :) [06:49] well, you need to be in core for apt, too === superm1 obviously needs to eat this morning yet - - should have made that connection in the first place === cassidy [n=cassidy@9.78-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:51] hehe [06:52] openoffice is building for 14 hours now :) [06:53] it failed in i386, so a fixed upload will be necessary [06:54] right, but I'm running amd64 :) [06:54] btw, I don't really see why the build failed on i386 and not on the others as well ... (looking at the log) === kaptengu [n=kaptengu@c213-100-60-183.swipnet.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:55] stgraber: i386 builds also the arch all debs [06:55] the others don't [06:55] argh [06:56] so you won't have much use for the amd64 debs if they need an arch all deb from this upload [06:57] and I think that's the case for OOo :( === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shiyee [n=Shiyee@0x503e9557.abnxx4.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === blackskad [n=blackska@d54C4A53D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === micahcowan [n=micah@ubuntu/member/micahcowan] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cypher1 [n=cypher1@c-69-249-127-102.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gpocentek [i=gauvain@sd-10791.dedibox.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:30] the apt-stuff seems to be out of sync with everything that depends on it. [07:31] hunger: i know. i'll fix it in the morning [07:31] more to the point - later in the morning [07:32] Hobbsee: Great. Thanks! [07:33] hunger: having apt working is not very fun at all, really... [07:33] i'ts much better if it's segfaulting! :P [07:33] Hobbsee: isn't it soon morning in Australia? :p [07:33] yeah.... [07:33] Hobbsee: Who needs apt anyway? Everybody just uses aptitude/synaptic/adept anyway;-) [07:34] geser: i was going to get better in when i went to bed, after UDS. unfortunately, the european day fits in far better if i stay up, then go to bed at some late hour [07:35] :) [07:35]