[01:00] <elyezer> hi all
[01:01] <elyezer> when i use the command  sudo update-alternatives --config java
[01:01] <elyezer> i get this list
[01:01] <elyezer>           1    /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1
[01:01] <elyezer>  +        2    /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java
[01:01] <elyezer> *         3    /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java
[01:02] <elyezer> why is the signal + in front of the second item?
[01:03] <elyezer> i'm in ubuntu-br channel and there is a person that have this list with * and + in front of java-6-sun
[01:03] <elyezer> someone have any idea?
[06:21] <DMind> hola
[06:21] <DMind> mm
[07:04] <DMind> hola
[07:10] <DMind> hola
[07:10] <DMind> aqui no hay nadie?
[08:28] <DMind> hay alguien aqui?
[08:28] <man-di> DMind: this is an english speaking channel
[08:29] <DMind> Oh
[08:29] <DMind> sorry
[08:29] <DMind> i am mexican
[08:29] <DMind> :(
[08:29] <man-di> welcome here
[08:29] <DMind> thanks
[08:29] <DMind> are you manager of this channel?
[08:30] <man-di> no, and I wonder what do you mean by manager
[08:30] <DMind> mmm,,,
[08:31] <man-di> when you have a problem with java in ubuntu just ask
[08:31] <DMind> i understand
[08:33] <DMind> problems with Java in Ubuntu I have not had any, opposite, between trying here to help the others
[08:35] <DMind> I entered here to try to help the others
[08:38] <man-di> cool
[08:38] <man-di> thats great
[08:38] <man-di> currently I'm more or less the only person answering questions here
[08:38] <DMind> i understand
[08:39] <DMind> :P
[08:40] <DMind> I study Sciences of the Computation and since 3 years I have been familiarized with Java 
[08:46] <DMind> man-di
[08:46] <DMind> are you good in Java?
[08:48] <man-di> I do it since 7 years, I'm involved in several free Java projects, I work with Java professionally
[08:48] <DMind> oh
[08:48] <man-di> so I think I'm at least acceptable in it ;-)
[08:49] <DMind> good
[08:49] <DMind> entiendes espaol?
[08:49] <man-di> no
[08:49] <DMind> oh
[08:50] <man-di> I can teach you german
[08:50] <DMind> mmm
[08:50] <DMind> yes
[08:50] <DMind> for example?
[08:50] <man-di> hello = Hallo
[08:50] <man-di> good morning = Guten Morgen
[08:51] <DMind> and Free Software?
[08:51] <man-di> my name is Michael = Mein Name ist Michael
[08:51] <man-di> Freie Software
[08:51] <DMind> wow
[08:51] <DMind> wich Java IDE is the better?
[08:51] <DMind> for you?
[08:52] <man-di> hehe, I'm Debian/Ubuntu Eclipse maintainer and I work with SUN on packaging Netbeans.
[08:52] <man-di> but the best IDE for me is still Emacs
[08:52] <DMind> oh
[08:52] <DMind> Emacs is the Universal IDE
[08:52] <DMind> :D
[08:52] <man-di> its a whole OS
[08:53] <man-di> Emacs OS
[08:53] <man-di> what do you prefer?
[08:53] <DMind> NetBeans
[08:53] <DMind> for me it is the more confortable
[08:58] <man-di> we develop Eclipse plugins in our company to help with our development, its the more complete IDE, you can do much more with it
[08:59] <man-di> NetBeans slowly closes this gap but its still behind
[09:00] <DMind> I have Eclipse too
[09:02] <man-di> my personal opinion is that everyone should use the IDE he likes most. diversity is a good thing.
[09:02] <man-di> monopoly isnt.
[10:05] <coredx> is this a channel for asking questions about programming in java?
[10:07] <man-di> no
[10:07] <man-di> this channel is about packaging java software for Ubuntu Linux
[10:08] <man-di> you are probably better suited in ##java
[10:08] <coredx> thank you