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| geser | imbrandon: does aurora has problems again? | 12:23 |
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| Fujitsu | Are we keeping beryl and co. around for any particular reason? emerald/heliodor have already been removed, and the new compiz is meant to replace them... | 03:18 |
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| nixternal | I want to play with the compiz fusion, but when I install it here I don't get the borders..and I can't use it on my big box because it has a Radeon | 03:50 |
| Vorian | nixternal, which card? | 03:52 |
| Vorian | and howdy :) | 03:52 |
| nixternal | 9700 | 03:52 |
| nixternal | howdy mr. Vorian :) | 03:52 |
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| Vorian | open drivers don't work? | 03:52 |
| nixternal | open drivers don't work with a 1440x900 | 03:53 |
| Vorian | :-/ | 03:53 |
| Vorian | no fun | 03:53 |
| Vorian | emerald --replace no workie either ? | 03:53 |
| nixternal | haven't tried emerald..isn't that a beryl thing? | 03:54 |
| Vorian | ah, that's what fusion is all about :) | 03:54 |
| nixternal | and I thought you couldn't use the binary blogs | 03:54 |
| Vorian | try this diddy | 03:54 |
| nixternal | blobs | 03:54 |
| Vorian | compiz --replace -c emerald & | 03:54 |
| nixternal | heh | 03:54 |
| === nixternal fires up the desktop | ||
| Vorian | it should activate your default emerald theme | 03:54 |
| nixternal | can I still mess with the fusion stuff? | 03:56 |
| Vorian | yepper | 03:56 |
| nixternal | sweet arse then | 03:56 |
| Vorian | \o/ | 03:56 |
| Vorian | it's fun stuff | 03:56 |
| nixternal | are there any funky settings with the binary blobs I need to do in xorg.conf? | 03:57 |
| Vorian | I havent had to | 03:57 |
| Vorian | but I have an older radeon | 03:57 |
| Vorian | actually | 03:58 |
| Vorian | the setting will be the same as beryl | 03:58 |
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| nixternal | bah | 04:20 |
| Fujitsu | nixternal: What went wrong? | 04:21 |
| nixternal | some silly texture error with it | 04:22 |
| nixternal | I am gonna go enjoy some pizza now | 04:22 |
| Fujitsu | There's some special xorg.conf setting you need for ATI cards. | 04:22 |
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| Fujitsu | Lutin: Are you going to merge gtk2hs at some point? It currently has unmetdeps, and the Debian package fixes that. | 04:56 |
| bronson | Anyone know how to create an apt mirror from packages on an ISO? | 04:59 |
| bronson | (I'm trying to install Gutsy but my machine doesn't have a CD-ROM drive... Any way to feed tribe2's packages over the net?) | 04:59 |
| TheMuso | StevenK: Mind if I take your ecasound2.2 merge? | 05:01 |
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| StevenK | TheMuso: Not at all. I touched it for the libflac transition. | 05:24 |
| StevenK | Fujitsu: I doubt it. File a removal bug, it worked for emerald. :-) | 05:25 |
| StevenK | bronson: I've done it before, it's just messy. | 05:25 |
| StevenK | bronson: Requires a second Linux machine, too. | 05:26 |
| bronson | StevenK: Messy? Yikes. That's a shame. | 05:26 |
| bronson | Did you write anything up? | 05:26 |
| TheMuso | StevenK: Ok, filed syncs on ecasound2.2 and ecawave, as the transition has now been done in Debian. | 05:27 |
| StevenK | Not so much. Mainly because I did it around 3 years ago. :-) | 05:27 |
| StevenK | TheMuso: Excellent. | 05:27 |
| bronson | Maybe I should just try to serve the packages off the iso over nfs or something...? | 05:27 |
| === TheMuso is surprised MoM shows up build1 versions as merges. | ||
| bronson | Bummer. Owell, thanks for saving me from that dead end. :) | 05:27 |
| StevenK | One of those two didn't build, do they both now build? | 05:27 |
| TheMuso | Yeah. | 05:28 |
| StevenK | Actually, I was wrong, but that's okay. :-) | 05:32 |
| TheMuso | Wrong? | 05:38 |
| StevenK | They both built, from what I can recall. | 05:39 |
| TheMuso | ah ok | 05:40 |
| TheMuso | Well they did for me as well, so thats all good. | 05:40 |
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| === Fujitsu obliterates emerald-themes. | ||
| StevenK | Yay! | 05:44 |
| === Fujitsu looks for other similar unmetdeps in debcheck. | ||
| Fujitsu | Why do we still have a lot of libapache-mod-* around? Shouldn't those have vanished? | 05:46 |
| Fujitsu | They make up more than 1/5 of the universe unmetdeps. | 05:47 |
| StevenK | The problem with that is, all of these bugs have been filed on them in Debian saying, "Fix your package to work with Apache 2 or remove it" and none of them have done anything. | 05:49 |
| StevenK | I'm loathe to remove 25 libapache-* packages if Debian is going to fix 23 of them, just not right away. | 05:50 |
| Fujitsu | These are libapache-* source packages. | 05:51 |
| Fujitsu | Surely they're not likely to be producing apache2 binaries in the near future. | 05:51 |
| === Fujitsu files a `Please put beryl and co. out of their misery' bug. | ||
| StevenK | Heh, yay! | 05:54 |
| Fujitsu | Hm, are we going to want an upgrade path from Feisty's beryl? | 05:56 |
| ScottK | If by 'we' you mean me, then No. | 05:56 |
| ScottK | ;-) | 05:56 |
| Fujitsu | I don't see how we can, as it's all very different. | 05:57 |
| Fujitsu | Hi ScottK. | 05:57 |
| ScottK | Hi Fujitsu | 05:57 |
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| bharanee | hello | 06:08 |
| bharanee | ; | 06:08 |
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| Megaqwerty | could anyone point me to a guide for signing .deb files? (For a repository) | 06:11 |
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| man-di | hello persia | 07:43 |
| persia | Hi man-di | 07:43 |
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| man-di | persia: when two packages need to be synced at the same time, one from main and another from universe, should I subscribe ubuntu-archive to both? | 07:52 |
| === StevenK sighs at pbuilder. Damn it, cache the build depends you download when the build fails! | ||
| persia | man-di: If it needs to be at exactly the same time, it should be one bug (and remember that you need a developer ACK before subscribing ubuntu-archive). If the dependency is one-way, two bugs is OK (but one bug may be preferred), but I'd recommend feeding them one at a time. In general, if you know in advance, I think one bug is better. | 07:54 |
| StevenK | Download 16Mb. Build fails. Patch. Rinse and repeat. | 07:54 |
| man-di | persia: hmmm, okay | 07:55 |
| persia | StevenK: What about local mirroring or using a proxy, or are you just short processor power today? | 07:55 |
| man-di | persia: I have already two bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ant/+bug/98638 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ow-util-ant-tasks/+bug/124699 | 07:55 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 98638 in ant "Upgrade to 1.7.0" [Undecided,New] | 07:55 |
| man-di | persia: I think will need doko to ACK this | 07:56 |
| man-di | persia: thx | 07:56 |
| persia | man-di: For main, you need a main ACK. Those who you work with are probably your best choice, but you may get some benefit from the ubuntu-main-sponsors queue. | 07:57 |
| man-di | persia: you mean subscribing to ubuntu-main-sponsors? | 07:58 |
| persia | man-di: Just out of curiosity, how does the upgrade to ant affect netbeans? | 07:58 |
| man-di | persia: it shouldnt | 07:58 |
| persia | man-di: Right. I don't know much about their queue processing procedure, but the queue does exist. | 07:58 |
| man-di | persia: I rebuild nearly all packages which B-D on ant and found only the ow-util-ant-tasks issue | 07:59 |
| man-di | I dont rebuild openoffice with new ant | 07:59 |
| persia | man-di: Ah. Good. I worry about API changes, but perhaps it was only some interfaces :) | 07:59 |
| man-di | I found one API change | 07:59 |
| man-di | which broke ow-util-ant-tasks | 08:00 |
| man-di | but I have to say I havent tested netbeans | 08:00 |
| man-di | its not in Debian main yet | 08:01 |
| man-di | I work with SUN to get it in | 08:01 |
| StevenK | man-di: Is sear any closer to being uploaded? | 08:04 |
| man-di | nope, I wait for eris 1.3.12 coming out of NEW and guichan which needs a library transition and maintainer is moving and has no internet access yet | 08:06 |
| man-di | StevenK: I think I will just do guichan | 08:07 |
| man-di | I'm his sponsor and he said I can do all I want with this packages | 08:07 |
| man-di | but I dont like to do work others should do, I have a lot of other tasks | 08:07 |
| man-di | StevenK: and sear doesnt build in current unstable | 08:10 |
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| man-di | I wonder what to do with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ant/+bug/43973 ? Are bugs in hoary still considered to be fixed? | 08:41 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 43973 in ant "ant 1.6.2-2ubuntu2 has ant version 1.6.5, not 1.6.2" [Medium,New] | 08:41 |
| Fujitsu | man-di: No. Hoary has been unsupported for 8 months. | 08:42 |
| man-di | Fujitsu: then just close the bug? | 08:42 |
| Fujitsu | man-di: That's right. | 08:42 |
| man-di | thx Fujitsu | 08:42 |
| Fujitsu | np | 08:42 |
| man-di | as "Invalid"? | 08:42 |
| Fujitsu | Hm... Hard to say. | 08:43 |
| Fujitsu | Invalid will do, as it's not a valid complaint for any current version. | 08:43 |
| man-di | its definitely not Fix Released | 08:43 |
| man-di | I will use Invalid | 08:43 |
| Fujitsu | If it had a Hoary distrorelease task, it would be wontfix, but Invalid is correct here. | 08:43 |
| man-di | where can I find the dates for support for each distro? | 08:45 |
| Fujitsu | man-di: It's mentioned in the release announcement, and it's not difficult to work out from the version number. | 08:48 |
| Fujitsu | There's also a table on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28Linux_distribution%29 | 08:48 |
| Fujitsu | But I don't know of an official page giving such information. | 08:49 |
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| RAOF | It's nice and quiet here, so I'll drop in some of my stupidity. I've re-arranged my keyboard to be dvorak... but my Sid install is on crypt-lvm, and the luks prompt isnt dvorak, and I can't remember querty well enough! :( | 09:37 |
| TheMuso | haha | 09:38 |
| TheMuso | Hobbsee!! | 09:38 |
| Hobbsee | TheMuso!!! | 09:38 |
| RAOF | Hey Hobbsee, TheMuso :) | 09:38 |
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| RAOF | I wanted to see if I could help do some nouveau testing, but that's trapped behind impenetrable crypto :) | 09:39 |
| TheMuso | Well that was smart. | 09:41 |
| RAOF | Absolutely | 09:41 |
| StevenK | RAOF: I can type out the layout if that helps. :-) | 09:42 |
| RAOF | Oooh. I probably have a game keyboard cheatsheet somewhere :) | 09:43 |
| Fujitsu | RAOF: Hahah. | 09:43 |
| RAOF | :P | 09:43 |
| === StevenK tries to force kwave to build. | ||
| === StevenK is this >< close to uploading a 0.9.0 SVN snapshot to Debian, "accidently" | ||
| Fujitsu | Heh. Why? | 09:50 |
| Fujitsu | One pixel, hey? A little dangerous. | 09:51 |
| Hobbsee | StevenK: if you do, i suspect you'll get lumped as teh maintainer | 09:51 |
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| StevenK | Don't wanna! | 09:51 |
| Fujitsu | !info kwave gutsy | 09:51 |
| ubotu | kwave: sound editor for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.7-2ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 2976 kB, installed size 6096 kB | 09:52 |
| Fujitsu | Ah. KDE. 'nuff said. | 09:52 |
| === Fujitsu runs. | ||
| StevenK | Hah | 09:52 |
| StevenK | Hrm. | 09:52 |
| StevenK | Why can't I ssh into anything? | 09:52 |
| StevenK | I get SERVICE_ACCEPT, and then nothing. | 09:53 |
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| DarkSun88 | Giorno | 09:53 |
| DarkSun88 | Hi all | 09:53 |
| Fujitsu | StevenK: How long have you waited? | 09:53 |
| StevenK | Still waiting. | 09:54 |
| Fujitsu | Hm... Haven't seen it that bad before. | 09:55 |
| === StevenK leaves it, to see what happens. | ||
| StevenK | connect(4, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path="/tmp/ssh-UJVxkX1674/agent.1674.seahorse"}, 110 <unfinished ...> | 09:59 |
| StevenK | Ah ha | 09:59 |
| StevenK | Right, fixed. | 10:01 |
| Fujitsu | Hah. | 10:07 |
| Fujitsu | Hmm... dcc 1.3.42-4build1 has been published on all archs but sparc, but the sparc build finished almost 4 hours ago. Is that really normal? | 10:14 |
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| StevenK | Check NEW? | 10:18 |
| StevenK | Maybe? | 10:18 |
| Fujitsu | StevenK: I guess that's a possibility that I hadn't thought of. | 10:18 |
| === Fujitsu checks. | ||
| Fujitsu | No :( | 10:18 |
| StevenK | Maybe it failed to upload. | 10:19 |
| Fujitsu | Possible. | 10:20 |
| === Fujitsu looks for an indication of binary publishing status. | ||
| Fujitsu | Is there a history thing like there is for sources? | 10:20 |
| StevenK | No idea. | 10:21 |
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| persia | Fujitsu: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+queue (and also look at "Accepted") | 10:21 |
| Fujitsu | persia: I meant a page like that one finds if one browses to http://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/somesourcepackage | 10:22 |
| Fujitsu | gutsy sparc Release: Published version 1.3.42-4build1 in component universe and section mail 3 hours ago | 10:22 |
| Fujitsu | But it hasn't hit archive.u.c yet :S | 10:22 |
| persia | Fujitsu: Ah. I don't know of anything like that. | 10:23 |
| StevenK | Probably needs someone to dig through logs on drescher. | 10:23 |
| Fujitsu | There is a (very ugly) publishing history on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/sparc/dcc-common/, it turns out. | 10:24 |
| Fujitsu | StevenK: That's what I thought. I'll poke someone when I see them. | 10:24 |
| Fujitsu | Is dak this hungry? | 10:24 |
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| jussi01 | morning all! | 10:30 |
| Fujitsu | Hi jussi01. | 10:30 |
| jussi01 | hey Fujitsu | 10:31 |
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| DktrKranz | could you please have a look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5924? thank you. | 02:00 |
| persia | Hmmm... I thought that was supposed to be part of the php-universe package. | 02:04 |
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| mruiz | ping anibal | 02:11 |
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| ranf | hello | 02:41 |
| tuxmaniac | Any idea of how much badwidth will be consumed in setting up a pbuilder environment? | 02:43 |
| geser | Fujitsu: any idea where to look for build logs for ppa? | 02:43 |
| man-di | tuxmaniac: my pbuilder tarballs are around 100 MB, so when you count on 200 MB per pbuilder you are on the save side | 02:44 |
| man-di | safe | 02:44 |
| tuxmaniac | man-di, thanks | 02:44 |
| TheMuso | Note that yo uwill still need disk space for package building, as well as downloaded dependencies. | 02:45 |
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| ryanakca | hmm... since #debian-devel seems to be dead, can a debian maintainer/dev reupload 'aoeui' please? (It got rejected because the copyright file said "GPLv2 or later" instead of "GPLv2 _only_"...) | 02:45 |
| ryanakca | `dget http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/a/aoeui/aoeui_1.0~alpha5-1.dsc` | 02:46 |
| Fujitsu | geser: I think you'll have to check the history of the individual buildds, or links in the email. | 02:46 |
| ranf | Does anybody know where I find a text version of " LDP GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE"? Closest I found is here: http://tldp.org/LDP-COPYRIGHT.html | 02:46 |
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| tuxmaniac | can i create a gutsy pbuilder environment being in Feisty? | 02:50 |
| ryanakca | tuxmaniac: yes | 02:50 |
| Fujitsu | tuxmaniac: Yes, but you'll need the Gutsy debootstrap package. | 02:50 |
| tuxmaniac | because it seems like the debootstrap gutsy package | 02:51 |
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| tuxmaniac | Fujitsu, true. thats exactly the problem | 02:51 |
| tuxmaniac | :) | 02:51 |
| Fujitsu | Why not install it? | 02:51 |
| tuxmaniac | Fujitsu, install gutsy or the debootstrap package for gutsy? | 02:52 |
| Fujitsu | deboostrap package. | 02:52 |
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| ryanakca | wget http://ftp.cs.umn.edu/pub/ubuntu/pool/main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap_1.0.0_all.deb && sudo dpkg -i debootstrap_1.0.0_all.deb | 02:52 |
| tuxmaniac | Fujitsu, how do I do that. by default it downloads the feisty one | 02:52 |
| ryanakca | tuxmaniac: ^^ | 02:53 |
| tuxmaniac | ryanakca, aah thanks | 02:53 |
| tuxmaniac | ryanakca, connection refused :-( | 02:54 |
| ryanakca | tuxmaniac: pick a random server from http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=all&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fd%2Fdebootstrap%2Fdebootstrap_1.0.0_all.deb&md5sum=f03872a3ba1fa96f9b46d6cb660aefef&arch=all&type=main | 02:54 |
| tuxmaniac | ok | 02:55 |
| ryanakca | and I'll be back in a bit. | 02:56 |
| StevenK | slomo: libdbus-glib-1-2 depends on libdbus-1-3 (>= 1.1.1) ; to answer your question with what's going on about glib-dbus. | 02:56 |
| tuxmaniac | it works. pbuilder env is getting created | 02:56 |
| tuxmaniac | thanks a lot peopkle | 02:56 |
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| tuxmaniac | where does the base.tgz get installed? I am unable to find it in /var/cache/pbuilder | 03:26 |
| geser | /var/cache/pbuilder should be the right place | 03:27 |
| geser | did you run pbuilder create ? | 03:27 |
| tuxmaniac | geser, yes I did | 03:27 |
| tuxmaniac | it said install successful | 03:27 |
| tuxmaniac | geser, no. It aborted with an error :S | 03:28 |
| tuxmaniac | sorry | 03:28 |
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| tuxmaniac | having problems here. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29099/ Any pointers? | 03:40 |
| Hobbsee | tuxmaniac: means that gutsy is broken at the moment | 03:41 |
| Hobbsee | tuxmaniac: suggest you create a feisty pbuilder, then dist-upgrade that | 03:41 |
| tuxmaniac | Hobbsee, hmmm ok | 03:42 |
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| tuxmaniac | Hobbsee, thanks. I did not eveen think that gutsy was broken and was wondering whats wrong with my commands :-) Stupid me! | 03:53 |
| Hobbsee | tuxmaniac: :) | 03:53 |
| Hobbsee | tuxmaniac: see http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/gutsy_probs.html | 03:54 |
| tuxmaniac | eeks | 03:54 |
| Hobbsee | yeah. that'll be fun to sort out :) | 03:58 |
| geser | no risk, no fun :) | 03:59 |
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| Hobbsee | geser: how's apt going? | 04:00 |
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| geser | still trying | 04:03 |
| === Fujitsu hunts some more unmetdeps on all archs. | ||
| === StevenK is still going with his flac search and destroy. | ||
| === Fujitsu looks at all the libapt-pkg-blah unmetdeps and wonders what's going on. | ||
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| jussi01 | hmmm, can someone tell me how to ssh into a remote machine? ie. me--router--internet--his router (5 machines attatched) -- him ? | 04:06 |
| Fujitsu | jussi01: You'd need some port-forwarding set up. | 04:06 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: apt breakage | 04:06 |
| StevenK | jussi01: A port forward on his router. | 04:06 |
| jussi01 | ok, is there a specific port i should use? | 04:07 |
| minghua | port 22 | 04:08 |
| jussi01 | ok, thanks a lot! | 04:08 |
| minghua | and it's his port 22, not yours | 04:08 |
| jussi01 | yeah :) | 04:08 |
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| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: if you're bored, you could always attempt to fix apt into building :P | 04:17 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee: At 12:30? I don't think so :P | 04:20 |
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| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: sure! it's a great time to code | 04:21 |
| Hobbsee | hi asac | 04:21 |
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| Kmos | Hobbsee: http://packages.qa.debian.org/b/balazar.html -> can you update this one from debian unstable | 04:30 |
| Kmos | ? | 04:30 |
| Hobbsee | Kmos: can i update it? as in, sync/merge it? | 04:31 |
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| Kmos | Hobbsee: i need to check first if it can be synced or merged | 04:31 |
| Kmos | :) | 04:31 |
| Hobbsee | Kmos: indeed. | 04:32 |
| Kmos | http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/b/balazar/balazar_0.3.3.ds1-1/changelog | 04:32 |
| man-di | Wow. Ubuntu Linux on german TV | 04:32 |
| Kmos | Hobbsee: i think it can be synced.. i'm right ? | 04:33 |
| Hobbsee | Kmos: why do you think that? | 04:33 |
| Kmos | i checked http://packages.qa.debian.org/b/balazar/news/20070701T151704Z.html (new version) | 04:33 |
| Kmos | and http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/b/balazar/balazar_0.3.3.ds1-1/changelog | 04:33 |
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| Kmos | nothing specific related to ubuntu | 04:34 |
| Hobbsee | correct | 04:34 |
| Hobbsee | you are right, it is a sync | 04:34 |
| Kmos | :) | 04:34 |
| Kmos | i report a bug with it ? | 04:34 |
| Kmos | or you will handle it now ? | 04:34 |
| Kmos | without report | 04:34 |
| Hobbsee | and i can approve it | 04:34 |
| === Hobbsee has no data centre access, at this point | ||
| Hobbsee | however, i can file the bug using requestsync from here, which saves a sponsor from approving it later | 04:35 |
| Hobbsee | done | 04:35 |
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| Kmos | Hobbsee: nice, thx | 04:36 |
| Hobbsee | no problem | 04:36 |
| Kmos | Hobbsee: the command to do it.. if isn't done by you.. it's requestsync balazar feisty ? | 04:36 |
| Kmos | $ requestsync balazar feisty | 04:36 |
| Hobbsee | gutsy. you want to sync it to gutsy. | 04:36 |
| Hobbsee | and you want to use -s, because you need a sponsor for it | 04:36 |
| Kmos | :) | 04:36 |
| Hobbsee | because you're not a MOTU or core dev | 04:36 |
| Kmos | exactly | 04:37 |
| Kmos | kmos@bash:~$ requestsync balazar gutsy | 04:37 |
| Kmos | Traceback (most recent call last): | 04:37 |
| Kmos | File "/usr/bin/requestsync", line 52, in <module> | 04:37 |
| Kmos | (cur_ver, component) = cur_version_component(srcpkg, release) | 04:37 |
| minghua | Speaking of sync requests, can a non-core MOTU request a main package sync? | 04:37 |
| Kmos | File "/usr/bin/requestsync", line 22, in cur_version_component | 04:37 |
| Kmos | raise Exception('apt-cache madison does not contain %s/%s' % (sourcepkg, release)) | 04:37 |
| Kmos | Exception: apt-cache madison does not contain balazar/gutsy | 04:37 |
| Kmos | minghua: yes | 04:37 |
| minghua | Kmos: Thanks. | 04:37 |
| Kmos | i've updated gqview that's in main | 04:37 |
| Hobbsee | minghua: sure | 04:37 |
| Kmos | and asked a motu for upload | 04:37 |
| Hobbsee | minghua: you may want ot use -s though | 04:37 |
| Kmos | sponsor :) | 04:37 |
| Fujitsu | minghua: Not wihout sponsorship. | 04:38 |
| Hobbsee | Kmos: is ubuntu-main-sponsors subscribed to the bug? | 04:38 |
| minghua | Ah, I meant to ask "request without sponsor". | 04:38 |
| Hobbsee | minghua: not usually | 04:38 |
| minghua | Thanks guys, especially Fujitsu for guessing what I really meant. :-) | 04:38 |
| Hobbsee | minghua: i mean, they *might* accept it, if you're known to work a lot in that area, and so they take it that you know what you're doing. but in teh general case, no | 04:38 |
| Kmos | bug 124744 | 04:39 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 124744 in balazar "Please sync balazar (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124744 | 04:39 |
| Kmos | Hobbsee: it's ubuntu-archive | 04:39 |
| === Hobbsee had a couple of main sync's ack'd that way | ||
| Hobbsee | Kmos: ...ENOCONTEXT | 04:39 |
| Hobbsee | Kmos: which bug are you talking about, w.r.t ubuntu-archive? | 04:39 |
| Kmos | i think you talk about balazar | 04:40 |
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| Hobbsee | Kmos: that balazar sync is correct. that has ubuntu-archive subscribed. | 04:40 |
| Kmos | ok | 04:40 |
| Kmos | so what are you talking about ? =) | 04:40 |
| Kmos | gqview is already release | 04:41 |
| Kmos | the package i've done some time ago | 04:41 |
| Hobbsee | ah right. the way you said it, you made it seem as if it was waiting for upload | 04:41 |
| Kmos | :-) | 04:42 |
| Kmos | geser has done it | 04:42 |
| Kmos | Hobbsee: bug 115578 | 04:42 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 115578 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] Gfreqlet" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115578 | 04:42 |
| Kmos | now i need this one.. | 04:42 |
| Hobbsee | then it clearly wasnt for main... | 04:43 |
| Kmos | this one is for universe :) | 04:43 |
| Hobbsee | you just said it was in main.... "i've updated gqview that's in main' | 04:43 |
| Kmos | i've updated the package :) hehe | 04:44 |
| Kmos | i'm not an ubuntu/motu member, so i can't do nothing | 04:45 |
| Kmos | =) | 04:45 |
| Hobbsee | oh, so locally or something. right. | 04:45 |
| DarkMageZ | double negative equals a positive. so you can do something. | 04:45 |
| Hobbsee | oh wait. you have updated it, and gqview even *is* in main. but i'm betting that geser didnt sponsor it. | 04:46 |
| === Hobbsee shrugs | ||
| Kmos | Hobbsee: geser is my sponsor.. but for that one i can't remember | 04:46 |
| Kmos | if keescock or crimsun upload it | 04:47 |
| Kmos | but geser checked it | 04:47 |
| Hobbsee | ah, right | 04:47 |
| StevenK | crimsun uploaded it | 04:47 |
| Kmos | =) | 04:47 |
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| Kmos | StevenK: want something to do ? bug 121858 | 04:49 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 121858 in squeak-vm "Please upgrade to new upstream version 3.9" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121858 | 04:49 |
| Kmos | hehe | 04:49 |
| Hobbsee | Kmos: you should probably ask ogra first about that one, before you touch it | 04:50 |
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| Hobbsee | seeing as he's in ubuntu, and he's listed as the maintainer | 04:50 |
| Kmos | Hobbsee: he's subscribed to the bug for that | 04:50 |
| Hobbsee | true | 04:50 |
| Kmos | i've done it =) | 04:51 |
| StevenK | Kmos: I'm already doing something, kthxbye | 04:51 |
| Kmos | so i wont touch it | 04:51 |
| Kmos | StevenK :) | 04:51 |
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| superm1 | it is legal to ship a file in /etc/mysql/conf.d that will override settings in /etc/mysql/my.cnf, correct? | 04:52 |
| sacater | can I please speak to a planet ubuntu savv | 04:57 |
| sacater | savvy* | 04:57 |
| Hobbsee | !ask | 04:57 |
| ubotu | Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) | 04:57 |
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| sacater | Hobbsee: k | 05:14 |
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| sacater | I want to speak to a planet ubuntu savvy | 05:14 |
| Hobbsee | that's not a question | 05:14 |
| Hobbsee | !someone | 05:14 |
| ubotu | A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? | 05:14 |
| sacater | is there a planet ubuntu savvy here | 05:18 |
| Hobbsee | you dont appaer to get it... | 05:18 |
| Hobbsee | sacater: the answer to that will depend on how savvy they need to be to answer your, as yet, unknown question. | 05:18 |
| Hobbsee | so, on balance, no there isnt. | 05:18 |
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| Nafallo | sacater: why don't you just ask your question instead of asking if someone is able to answer what you haven't asked? :-) | 05:19 |
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| Hobbsee | mmm...sometime | 05:20 |
| minghua | IIRC sacater asked earlier here about he/she not being able to put his/her RSS feed onto planet ubuntu. | 05:20 |
| minghua | Not sure if it's still the same problem though. | 05:20 |
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| pochu | !planet | 05:23 |
| ubotu | Planet Ubuntu (blogs of Ubuntu developers and members) can be found at http://planet.ubuntu.com | 05:23 |
| sacater | right | 05:24 |
| sacater | here is the problem | 05:24 |
| pochu | sacater: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PlanetUbuntu | 05:24 |
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| pochu | It's a nice tutorial to add yourself :) | 05:24 |
| sacater | I have done everything that guide says, and yet my blog posts are not showing on planet ubuntu | 05:24 |
| sacater | and when you hilight my name down the side | 05:24 |
| sacater | my feed is linked okay | 05:24 |
| sacater | but my 'name' is not | 05:25 |
| pochu | No, it's not. | 05:25 |
| pochu | sacater: the link is http://sacater.codewiz.net/?cat=3, but it should be a feed. | 05:25 |
| pochu | e.g. rss, atom... | 05:25 |
| pochu | sacater: http://sacater.codewiz.net/?cat=3&feed=rss2 | 05:27 |
| pochu | I think that's the good one. | 05:27 |
| pochu | Which will just show up the posts in the Ubuntu category. | 05:27 |
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| sacater | aha | 05:29 |
| sacater | didnt realise I could get an rss feed for that particular section | 05:29 |
| pochu | That's what everybody should have. | 05:30 |
| sacater | pochu: so if I change cat=3 to cat-3&feed=rss2 might it work? | 05:30 |
| pochu | cat=3&feed=rss2, yes | 05:30 |
| sacater | k | 05:30 |
| pochu | sacater: just try it in a feed reader, e.g. liferea | 05:30 |
| sacater | let me try changing it | 05:30 |
| pochu | And you will see whether it works or not :) | 05:31 |
| pochu | If it works on a feed reader, will work in planet.u.c too. | 05:31 |
| pochu | And everybody should just feed the Ubuntu entries. I don't think most people care if you have a new dog or things like that... | 05:32 |
| Nafallo | pochu++ | 05:32 |
| vijay2000 | Hi all | 05:32 |
| vijay2000 | can anybody help me with this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29106/ | 05:32 |
| pochu | Or even worse, if you write in [your_LOCALE] , which 95% of us don't understand (unless it's german, since a lot of developers here seem to be german hehe) | 05:33 |
| minghua | I would feed ubuntu and debian entries if I have a English blog... | 05:33 |
| pochu | you can just create a 'Planet Ubuntu' and a 'Planet Debian' categories, and feed them. | 05:34 |
| superm1 | vijay2000, perhaps add libglut3-dev to build-deps | 05:34 |
| pochu | As sacater is just doing :) | 05:34 |
| minghua | Nah, creating categories is not the problem; finding interesting things to write about is the problem. :-) | 05:35 |
| pochu | :) | 05:36 |
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| sacater | pochu: right I think I have done it | 05:43 |
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| sacater | pochu: ill give it a while to update | 05:46 |
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| sacater | YAYS | 05:49 |
| sacater | it worked! | 05:49 |
| sacater | now to make a blog post.. | 05:49 |
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| pochu | sacater: cool | 05:57 |
| pochu | and nice that you've added just the Ubuntu category :) | 05:57 |
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| sacater | pochu: :D | 06:03 |
| sacater | pochu: its spelt hugs btw | 06:03 |
| sacater | :P | 06:03 |
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| pochu | Oh, right. | 06:04 |
| pochu | Thanks for it, I really appreciate it! :) | 06:04 |
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| sacater | :P | 06:11 |
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| jekil | hello | 06:25 |
| jekil | anyone please can review my obextool? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5896 | 06:26 |
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| slomo | StevenK: you must use debian's dbus-glib :P Depends: libc6 (>= 2.6), libdbus-1-3 (>= 0.94), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.13.5) | 06:38 |
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| StevenK | slomo: Ah. I'll look at merging dbus-glib, then. | 07:09 |
| slomo | StevenK: merging? | 07:09 |
| StevenK | Um, actually dbus-glib in Ubuntu and Debian are the same version... | 07:10 |
| StevenK | Maybe it needs a rebuild. | 07:10 |
| slomo | i have no idea where your dbus 1.1 dependency comes from, it's not in the archive | 07:11 |
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| StevenK | slomo: This is strange... | 07:18 |
| StevenK | slomo: Before I install it: | 07:18 |
| StevenK | Depends: libc6 (>= 2.6), libdbus-1-3 (>= 0.94), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.13.5) | 07:18 |
| slomo | yes... the debian binary depends on dbus 1.1 though | 07:18 |
| StevenK | And then after: | 07:19 |
| StevenK | Depends: libc6 (>= 2.5-5), libdbus-1-3 (>= 1.1.1), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.12.9) | 07:19 |
| slomo | nice | 07:19 |
| slomo | the latter can't be built on our buildds | 07:19 |
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| StevenK | But what causes Depends to change on install?! | 07:20 |
| slomo | we never had glib << 2.13 at the time dbus-glib 0.74 was uploaded | 07:20 |
| slomo | no idea | 07:20 |
| StevenK | slomo: Can you reproduce? | 07:21 |
| slomo | no | 07:21 |
| StevenK | Hrm. I think I know what's going on. | 07:21 |
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| StevenK | slomo: Hand that dunce cap over there, will you? :-) | 07:22 |
| vijay2000 | Hi can anybody help me with this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29124/ | 07:23 |
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| vijay2000 | how do i get libqalculate-dev (>= 0.9.4) | 07:24 |
| vijay2000 | my current version is libqalculate-dev (>= 0.9.4) | 07:24 |
| vijay2000 | sorry 0.9.2-1 | 07:24 |
| geser | is that a dapper pbuilder? | 07:25 |
| man-di | vijay2000: use something more recent than dapper | 07:25 |
| StevenK | slomo: Thanks for your help. | 07:25 |
| vijay2000 | geser: yes it is a dapper builder | 07:25 |
| slomo | StevenK: np ;) | 07:26 |
| vijay2000 | man-di: Thanks | 07:26 |
| geser | then you need to fix the versioned build-depends for this package and see if it builds on dapper | 07:26 |
| vijay2000 | geser: Shall try it out .. thanks for you help | 07:27 |
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| jikanter | if I fix a bug in a package, I am not 100% clear on what to do after that. I ran debdiff on the package. Should I now build and upload to review? Could someone steer me in the correct direction? | 07:45 |
| jikanter | sorry, revu | 07:45 |
| Hobbsee | jikanter: attach the debdiff to the bug, and subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors | 07:45 |
| minghua | jikanter: no need to upload to REVU, just attach the debdiff | 07:46 |
| jikanter | cool, thanks Hobsee, mingua I appreciate it. | 07:46 |
| minghua | Hobbsee is always faster :-( | 07:46 |
| Hobbsee | minghua: not always | 07:46 |
| === minghua just heard that Ubuntu's trademark policy discourage "Edition" names and recommend "Remix" instead. | ||
| StevenK | Yeah, but Christian Edition makes it sound like we're all going to hell. | 07:47 |
| Q-FUNK | shiver at the thought of remixing Christianity. | 07:48 |
| jussi01 | Hmmm, how do i check if a package is synced or native (tremulous-server)? | 07:49 |
| Q-FUNK | the version | 07:49 |
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| ScottK | jekil: Did you build your package in a Gutsy pbuilder? Did it build? Was the resulting binary lintian/linda clean? | 07:57 |
| jekil | ScottK: i build it in a feisty pbuilder | 07:58 |
| ScottK | jekil: You ought to make (by dist-upgrading) a Gutsy pbuilder and test it in that environment. | 07:59 |
| StevenK | Ugh. | 07:59 |
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| jekil | ScottK: ok, thansk | 07:59 |
| ScottK | StevenK: Doesn't that line belong to TheMuso? | 07:59 |
| StevenK | I stole it fair and square, since he's sleeping. | 07:59 |
| ScottK | Ah. No problem then. | 08:01 |
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| siretart | slomo: around? | 08:25 |
| siretart | slomo: I see a new version of seahorse has been uploaded? | 08:26 |
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| icf7 | How do I add a "repository" (like "universe", "multiverse" etc.) to an already installed pbuilder? I tried pbuilder update with a config file specifying COMPONENTS="..", but that doesn't seem to have any effect | 08:41 |
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| Biagi | http://biagi.miniville.fr/env | 08:43 |
| geser | icf7: --override-config when you update your pbuilder should do it | 08:44 |
| slomo | siretart: yes | 08:45 |
| icf7 | geser: Thanks, I should rtfm next time. | 08:45 |
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| siretart | slomo: to what conclusion did you come regarding the agents? should both be run by default on user login? | 08:45 |
| slomo | siretart: until there's a better solution (like gnome-session integration) yes | 08:46 |
| ryanakca | what would be the appropriate version for aoeui 1.0, alpha5? I've been recommended 1.0-1~alpha5.0, so that 1.0-1 is higher, but that causes the problem of naming the .orig.tar.gz... | 08:46 |
| slomo | at least it will work fine now in all cases, no matter what is running or installed | 08:47 |
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| siretart | slomo: :( | 08:57 |
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| siretart | this means that we always get undefined behavior if both are installed | 08:57 |
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| astronouth7303 | when I'm writing my debian control file, is it ok to require any version of a package but then recommend a newer version? | 09:01 |
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| ScottK | astronouth7303: What would be the point? Unless somebody is holding things back for a reason they will have the newest version they have available. | 09:13 |
| astronouth7303 | debian stable doesn't have python-gtk2 2.10 | 09:13 |
| astronouth7303 | and I can code around it | 09:14 |
| astronouth7303 | so I require any version of python-gtk2, but I recommend python-gtk2 >= 2.10 | 09:14 |
| man-di | astronouth7303: what will a user gain if he/she installs a newer version? Will the programm show additional features? | 09:15 |
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| astronouth7303 | yes | 09:15 |
| astronouth7303 | StatusIcon | 09:15 |
| astronouth7303 | which is the systray icon | 09:15 |
| man-di | astronouth7303: but it fully works with the older verions dont supporting systray icon? | 09:16 |
| astronouth7303 | yeah | 09:16 |
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| man-di | then I would just depend on the minimal version | 09:17 |
| man-di | most people will use the version provided by their distro anyway | 09:17 |
| astronouth7303 | ok | 09:17 |
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| astronouth7303 | I just wanted to make sure that it wouldn't freak out the various package managers | 09:18 |
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| ScottK | FYI, MOTU FAQ appears to have lost some info when revised recently. If you have time, you might want to have a look and see if stuff needs to be added back. | 09:32 |
| bluekuja | ScottK, thanks for your comment on the list, I think I gonna add a point for that for next motu meeting | 09:33 |
| bluekuja | ScottK, trying to find a common rule for everyone | 09:33 |
| bluekuja | (I hope I will be available for that hour, if work will let me^^) | 09:36 |
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| cbx33 | anyone here got the nokia n800? | 10:42 |
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| slavik | what is a good place to ask for backports? | 10:59 |
| Lamego | what package do you like to see backported? | 10:59 |
| Lamego | would you | 11:00 |
| slavik | pidgin 2.0.2 | 11:00 |
| slavik | or the upcomming 2.1.0 :) | 11:00 |
| Lamego | i have an unoffical backport :P | 11:00 |
| slavik | Lamego: getdeb.net doesn't count :P | 11:01 |
| Lamego | why not ? | 11:01 |
| slavik | because they don't :P | 11:02 |
| Lamego | well, ok, I like that justification for someone who lost some time building it :) | 11:02 |
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| Lamego | lost = spent | 11:04 |
| sacater | hey, who should I talk to if I want to start a launchpad 'Q+A Day' | 11:07 |
| TheMuso | Heya folks. | 11:07 |
| minghua | slavik: I don't know if the page is up-to-date or not, but it has a lot of pointers: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BackportRequestProcess | 11:11 |
| minghua | hello there TheMuso | 11:11 |
| cbx33 | hey TheMuso | 11:12 |
| cbx33 | howz it going | 11:12 |
| TheMuso | cbx33: Vey well thanks. Yourself? | 11:12 |
| cbx33 | yeh good | 11:12 |
| cbx33 | hopefully placing an order for a nokia n800 | 11:12 |
| cbx33 | pretty excited | 11:12 |
| TheMuso | I'll bet. | 11:14 |
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| sacater | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QADays | 11:25 |
| RainCT | sacater: nice idea :) | 11:27 |
| sacater | RainCT: thank ye | 11:27 |
| sacater | RainCT: like it says | 11:27 |
| sacater | RainCT: add your name if you are interested | 11:27 |
| RainCT | sacater: I'd, but I don't think I could answer much... | 11:28 |
| sacater | RainCT: its not hard | 11:30 |
| sacater | there are over 9000 questions | 11:31 |
| sacater | there must be a few you can do RainCT | 11:31 |
| RainCT | :p | 11:32 |
| RainCT | sacater: well, will try then | 11:32 |
| sacater | RainCT: add your name :D | 11:33 |
| RainCT | sacater: already done ;) | 11:33 |
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| sacater | RainCT: promote it around a bit for me :D | 11:33 |
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| RainCT | sacater: but I want you to digg http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/QtTube... lool | 11:34 |
| sacater | RainCT: looking | 11:35 |
| RainCT | sacater: (just joking :P, well but would be nice :)). will tell about it on the Catalan LoCo meeting (running now) later :) | 11:35 |
| sacater | RainCT: k | 11:36 |
| sacater | RainCT: im adding a few more feilds | 11:36 |
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| RainCT | sacater: the table was broken, repaired it :P | 11:42 |
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| sacater | RainCT: ty | 11:43 |
| sacater | RainCT: add your details on the extra tables :P | 11:43 |
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| RainCT | good night | 11:51 |
| ryanakca | hmm... I have a build machine (192.168.1.101) so that pbuilder doesn't slow up my desktop... I have ssh keys set up, any way to dput my sources to 192.168.1.101, instead of having to open up SFTP? | 11:56 |
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| minghua | ryanakca: what is the problem of using sftp? | 11:59 |
| === minghua has never set up a server to accept dput though. | ||
| ryanakca | minghua: I'm lazy... :) In fact, I'm kindof interested in setting up a build daemon so that the whole process is automated for me :) | 12:00 |
| ryanakca | And, just for the fun of it... a challenge (so I hope) | 12:00 |
| minghua | Setting up buildd is not for lazy people AFAIK. :-) | 12:01 |
| ryanakca | meh, It's a challenge :) | 12:01 |
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