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zander_i think i should go its late here12:14
zander_so bb12:14
zander_see ya12:14
dr_willisnone of the extra themes seem to work with kbfx.. same issue i saw a few months ago12:14
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KprofthreatEh12:16
KprofthreatYeah, this is pretty poor.12:16
KprofthreatEven w/ strigi12:17
KprofthreatBut wait, strigi is poor compared to Kerry anyway12:17
spitwiseafter my feisty upgrade my trash icon vanished12:17
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prxqhi. I managed to edit my xorg.conf until I got the right resolution (1280x1024). But now under KDE (feisty) the resolution reverts to 1024x780, and the point'n'click interface refuses to change to the higher resolution. What can I do?12:17
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spitwisenevermind12:18
dr_willis!info strigi12:18
ubotuPackage strigi does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas12:18
dr_willisprxq,  each user can set their own res also. , but that may need a xorg.conf tweak. and that may not be your issue.12:18
prxqi'm using an nvidia card...12:18
dr_willisYou upgraded to feidty and now the res is wrong?12:18
dr_willisfeisty12:18
dr_willis:)12:18
prxqdr_willis: nope. I bought a "new" card (old model), and got it to work (today) in the right res in X and kdm. the old card got that resolution using the vesa driver.12:20
prxqall the time under feisty.12:20
prxqThe easiest would be for kde to use the same resolution as the display manager.12:21
dr_willisprxq,  well eqch user can set theior own.. which might be your case12:22
dr_willisI always try to set kdm to use a lower res. so the fonts/words are bigger for my wife. :)12:22
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heiko_hi @12:23
prxqdr_willis: I can set the resolution in kcontrol, or using the system settings menu point in the kde menue. Thing is, it doesn't work. It stays with the old res.12:23
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ninHer..or just type a simple crtl + to make it bigger12:24
BluesKajprxq, have you setup the monitor drivers , sometimes ppl forget about their monitors ,,plugnplay vesa is ok but you'll have more res options if you install the right monitor driver12:24
BluesKajnot just your graphics card12:25
prxqBluesKaj: you mean, right res @ right freq? How is that with flat panels? Do i still need the freq?12:26
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adaptryes12:26
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adaptrthe specs should be in the manual12:26
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afmpazhola12:27
eboxnethello ppl12:27
afmpazalguien habla espanol12:27
prxqok i'll reset X. bbiab12:27
afmpazi new on linux and installing a get a problem12:28
dr_willisask way.. You may wan to try the12:28
dr_willis!es12:28
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.12:28
dr_willischannels also.12:28
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Squirrely_WrathGot a small issue.  Every time I start Kubuntu, Kate opens up with some beryl manager document up.  I try to tell the I change the autostart string in the beryl manager document to False and it says I do not have the permission to save settings.  How do I fix that?12:30
afmpazok, but before of get out of here, can you help me with this warning:12:31
afmpazWarning: File system doesn't have expected sizes for Windows to like it.12:31
afmpazCluster size is 2k (1k expected); number of clusters is 24026 (47959 expected);12:31
afmpazsize of FATs is 94 sectors (188 expected).12:31
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dr_williswhere is that comming from afmpaz ?12:31
Squirrely_WrathI don't necessarily need to change the document info, I would just like Kate to not automatically start when I open Kubuntu12:32
afmpazfrom installling ubuntu after make a patition12:32
afmpazubuntu 7.0412:32
dr_willissounds like the installer is saying your windows partitions are a little weird.12:32
afmpazon a dell presicion 47012:32
dr_willisits not talking about the dell recovery partition is it?12:33
prxqhi. I did set up a monitor with the freq. & res. from the manual. It works in kdm, but not in kde. The resolution slider only offers me one frequency (52 Hz), and simply does not work.12:33
afmpazno12:33
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afmpazi cant get it my english is so but, what do you mean with weird?12:35
dr_willisweird/odd/strange/nonstandard12:35
dr_willisit seems to be saying that your existing windows partitions are unusual.12:36
klobsteris it possible to switch (1234567890) keys to always be shifted? (!@#$%^&*)?12:36
dr_willisklobster,  cant say that ive seen that done :)12:36
dr_willisor why one would want to.12:36
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dr_willisShiftlock like on the old keyboards? :)12:36
Squirrely_WrathUm...is there any way to make Kate open with gksu by default since it insists on opening at startup anyway?12:36
afmpazok thx12:36
klobsterI already have a number pad, and I get tired of shifting when i code.12:37
dr_willisSquirrely_Wrath,  thats reaching really hard for a fix. :)12:37
dr_willis!beryl12:37
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects12:37
klobsterSquirrely_Wrath: edit the shortcut and prepend gksu to it (not recommended)12:37
dr_willisbetter to just close it and try the kde's save session tool perhaps?12:37
Squirrely_Wrathhmmmmm.....okay.  May try that, I'm new to KDE so I don't get everything yet.12:38
klobstersave session is a nogo, I'm afraid (tried it).  just make a shortcut that you keep on the desktop,12:38
klobsterBTW kdesu, not gksu...12:39
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Squirrely_WrathWas the kdesu for me?  Just wondering cuz gksu has worked for everything else for me.12:40
pagan0neanyone know a way to echo some text from a ssh shell, to a xsession running on the remote machine?12:40
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KprofthreatWhy can I only edit the main panel for kicker...12:42
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fyrmedicI set my /etc/network/interfaces up to be a static ip and I can ping my router, I can even ssh to that machine. I can't however ping anything outside my network or go to any url's. Any ideas?12:43
driffyrmedic: gateway not set?12:46
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KprofthreatWhy can I only edit the main panel for kicker...12:47
BluesKajKprofthreat, pls explain12:48
KprofthreatI added another panel12:48
KprofthreatAnd when I clicked to configure it12:48
KprofthreatI only get my default one12:48
KprofthreatLike for example, I'm trying to stack two panels12:49
KprofthreatBut the main one is hidden by the new one, so when I try to configure the second to shrink it, I only can edit the main one.12:49
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BluesKajperhaps one is locked12:49
KprofthreatThey're both unlocked12:49
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BluesKajwindow behaviour in sys settings .. ?12:53
KprofthreatOne second12:53
KprofthreatOk. Now then..what about window settings?12:53
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sucapulliciao01:04
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originof[] lol01:04
sucapulliciao01:04
originof[] ciao01:04
originof[] asD01:04
sucapullitempo previsto XD?01:04
originof[] asd01:04
sucapulli30 secondi XD?01:04
originof[] 1 minuto01:04
sucapullinaaaa  troppo XD01:04
originof[] 3285987456 CALL ME, I LICK R ASS !!!!01:04
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BluesKaj!it | originof[] 01:05
ubotuoriginof[] : Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!01:05
sucapulliahahahaha01:05
originof[] 3285987456 CALL ME, I LICK R ASS !!!!01:05
originof[] 3285987456 CALL ME, I LICK R ASS !!!!01:05
originof[] 3285987456 CALL ME, I LICK R ASS !!!!01:05
originof[] 3285987456 CALL ME, I LICK R ASS !!!!01:05
originof[] 3285987456 CALL ME, I LICK R ASS !!!!01:05
sucapullisei un pullo manuel01:05
sucapulliahahaha01:05
originof[] 3285987456 CALL ME, I LICK R ASS !!!!01:05
originof[] 3285987456 CALL ME, I LICK R ASS !!!!01:05
originof[] 3285987456 CALL ME, I LICK R ASS !!!!01:05
originof[] 3285987456 CALL ME, I LICK R ASS !!!!01:05
originof[] 3285987456 CALL ME, I LICK R ASS !!!!01:05
originof[] 3285987456 CALL ME, I LICK R ASS !!!!01:05
BluesKaj!ops01:05
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!01:05
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originof[] 3285987456 CALL ME, I LICK R ASS !!!!01:05
sucapulliquanto prendi?01:05
originof[] 3285987456 CALL ME, I LICK R ASS !!!!01:05
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nixternalwhat a jerk01:05
AMAURIsalve :D01:05
Squirrely_WrathCan anyone tell me how to take stuff out of startup?01:05
Squirrely_Wrathbecause Kate AND Xchat open on startup01:05
sucapullienglish:suuuuuuuucaaaa01:05
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AMAURIHi HO UN MINCHIONE IMPRESSIONANTEEE!!!01:06
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BluesKajhmmm, couple of 13 yr olds on mommy's pc01:07
nixternalyup01:07
pagan0neBluesKaj: if they were 13 that would give them a excuse, there is no escuse for behavior like that01:08
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pagan0nei prefer to think of them as the 32 year old virgin loser living in mommys basement :)01:08
frojndbwuhaha lol01:08
BluesKajnot at 13 in real yrs , his mental age01:08
frojndrofl01:09
TeraDynepagan0ne: You're probably right, too.01:09
pagan0newell yes, that may be true01:09
KprofthreatI still remember that one time  that noob copied the ubotu help thingy and pasted it01:10
KprofthreatHe didn't know any better but the ops still banned him01:10
pagan0neheh, i was a n00b once too, i can sympathise, now days i ask channel permission before i copy/paste ANYTHING01:11
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KprofthreatN00bz0rs!01:11
pagan0nelol01:11
Kprofthreat..Ahem =] 01:11
vzduchrofl01:11
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KprofthreatI even ask permission if I can be overly sarcastic or not01:12
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KprofthreatExample01:12
Kprofthreatnoob: I can't configure amarok. It keeps crashing.01:12
pagan0neKprofthreat: i havent been kicked for being overly scarastic... yet01:12
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KprofthreatTaJ: Did you try loading SQLite?01:12
KprofthreatMe: *Claps 3 times evenly spaced* Well done...01:13
nixternalpagan0ne: I could grant your wish :)01:13
pagan0nelol no thanks nixternal01:13
nixternalhehe01:13
pagan0neanyway im gonna stop going offtopic cuz i just might get kicked for that...01:13
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KprofthreatHmm...kick the anti-Zionist01:14
pagan0nelol01:14
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KprofthreatKick the physically impossible spacial anomaly01:15
pagan0nehuh?01:15
KprofthreatKick the ironic monetary moniker..oh he left01:15
Kprofthreat-.-01:15
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pagan0nekick the one trying to start a small insurection with words....01:16
KprofthreatOk!01:16
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pagan0neanyway anyone know a way to echo some text from a ssh shell, to a xsession running on the remote machine running kubuntu?01:16
KprofthreatWoah woah woah, slow down man. I don't speak greek.01:17
pagan0neKprofthreat: you mean geek?01:17
KprofthreatNo, I think I meant latin.01:17
KprofthreatSudo -s?01:17
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pagan0newell then you shouldnt have a problem reading that, its in the geek dialect of the english language01:18
KprofthreatSudo -s01:18
KprofthreatOr somethingerather01:18
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pagan0neKprofthreat: was the sudo -s directed @ me?01:19
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KprofthreatWell, pagan0ne, I think I know what you're trying to do but don't know if I ever did it or not, and if I did, I forgot the steps, so yes that might have not been not directed at someone that's possibly you.01:19
pagan0nelol thats a improbibaly indirect way at possibly answering, or not answering my question...01:20
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Kprofthreatpagan0ne: Not improbable. Most illogical, maybe.01:21
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runpainHelp me some one i cant install ichthux the installer crashes all the time here is the pastbin : http://pastebin.ca/60955901:21
Kprofthreat!info ichthux01:22
ubotuPackage ichthux does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas01:22
KprofthreatIf the bot says it does not exist, it does not exist. NEXT!01:22
pagan0nerofl01:22
runpainichthux christian linux kde01:23
Kprofthreat!ichthux01:24
ubotuIchthux (Linux for Christians) is an unofficial Kubuntu derivative. See http://www.ichthux.com/01:24
pagan0neKprofthreat: isnt that ironic....01:24
KprofthreatHmm01:24
Kprofthreatpagan0ne: What is?01:24
pagan0neKprofthreat: you pointing out my anti-zionest ways, them the first Valid questio past that involding a christian based derivitave of our favorite OS01:25
KprofthreatYou're anti-zionist? Shame!01:25
pagan0neand now the simple fact that i cant type01:25
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KprofthreatOh wait... pagan0ne..I get it!01:25
dekhelpmeHeylo ..01:25
Kprofthreat...o.O01:25
dekhelpmeEverything is gold,.. and I mean everything.. just beautiful01:25
dekhelpmecept ..01:25
pagan0nedek how can we help you?01:25
vzduchKprofthreat: the bot seems not to know a number of packages.. e.g. realplay; apt-cache show says it's in main, and the bot says it doesn't exist01:25
dekhelpmeStyles/Themes  -   Dekorator won't install from repo for me01:26
Kprofthreatpagan0ne: See why I need permission to be sarcastic now?01:26
dekhelpmewell it installs, but it doesn't work, the window manager just dissapears01:26
dekhelpmeam I missing QT or something _like_ that01:26
runpainCan i get help here01:26
dekhelpmerunpain:  what's up01:26
KprofthreatI'm looking into it, runpain.01:26
dekhelpmenm ;] 01:27
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runpaink01:27
runpain thanks kp01:27
dekhelpmePackage: kwin-style-dekorator  <<-- Does not work o_001:27
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KprofthreatSo, if I understand this right01:27
KprofthreatYou are trying to add ichthux to your existing kubuntu?01:27
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vzduchrunpain: why not install from the repos?01:28
runpainno want to install on laptop01:28
runpainbecause the server is down for repos01:28
vzduchhuh?01:28
vzduchwhich server?01:28
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KprofthreatCheck out his runtime error, vz: http://pastebin.ca/60955901:28
runpainit gets all the way to download from mirror and the installer crashes01:29
dekhelpmeIs there anyone here with compiling abilities able to pack deKorator into a .deb for me?01:29
Kprofthreat!deKorator01:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dekorator - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:29
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Kprofthreatdekhelpme: Just try sudo apt-get install dekorator01:30
dekhelpmeKprofthreat: Yah, tried that. the package is kwin-style-dekorator01:31
dekhelpmeKprofthreat: and it seems to be broken01:31
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runpaini install kubuntu and tried the debs that they say installs the ichthux desk top and do the wget and the server does not work01:31
vzduchmy aptitude says ichthux-desktop is broken01:31
KprofthreatHmm01:32
KprofthreatLet me check this01:32
runpainerr the only christian one that has kde desktop and is down that sucks01:32
pagan0neKprofthreat: can i pm you?01:32
vzduchtried to simulate the install and it gave me a dep conflict01:32
runpainO_o01:33
KprofthreatHmm, can you find it with adept?01:33
runpaino_O01:33
runpain;{01:33
runpainand thier channels noone answers01:34
vzduchhttp://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/1630 <-- my system is in German, so you might have trouble understanding the messages, but I think you'll get the point01:34
Kprofthreatdekhelpme: Did you try getting this from adept?01:35
dekhelpmeKprofthreat:  No, i caught that going by just now tho.. gonna try, thx :)01:35
vzduchrunpain: email the maintainers that their package is broken01:35
dekhelpmealthough i'm sure apt-get would have gotten the repos, i'll see if there's anything i've missed01:36
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mike__Greets, everyone...01:36
Kprofthreatdekhelpme: You may have dependency issues.01:36
Kprofthreatmike__, do you need help?01:36
runpaini was looking at the paste01:36
vzduchrunpain: you can include that01:37
dekhelpmeKprofthreat: that's what it feels like .. but this is fresh install, i haven't done anything01:37
dekhelpmedekhelpme: cept update my repo's and do a full system upgrade01:37
runpainthanks vz01:37
vzduchrunpain: I can prolong the time that the post stays in the pastebin01:37
drifam I able to execute some software under X remotely via console?01:37
mike__Kprofthreat: Yeah, thanks... My swap space has disappeared. ;-\ Already tried re-assigning the swap partition to be swap in the Disk & Filesystems module, to no avail. Any ideas?01:37
runpaink ill get it now01:37
Kprofthreatdekhelpme: That can cause a dependency issue.01:37
vzduchah, it's set to 1 month01:37
Kprofthreatdekhelpme: Er...fresh installs anyway, you need to install things from Adept and they should get the dependencies for you.01:38
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Kprofthreatmike__: It's not mounted?01:38
runpaingot friend01:38
dekhelpmeKprofthreat:  adept is NOT finding dekorator01:38
runpaingot it*01:39
KprofthreatIt found it for me...01:39
danya_what is KDE headers ?01:39
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mike__Kprofthreat: How can I tell? I thought swap partitions weren't assigned a mount point?01:39
dekhelpmeKprofthreat:  I have updated my sources.list manually, am I missing something here01:39
mike__dekhelpme: kwin-style-dekorator01:39
runpainill send it to thier site for bugs01:39
mike__dekhelpme: Nothing?01:39
dekhelpmemike__:  Yah, that installs, but when I load it my window manager dissapears till i load a diff one01:39
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dekhelpmekwin-style-dekorator is availible in apt-get but in adept,  dekorator is no where to be found01:40
mike__dekhelpme: You have to download and install a dekorator theme (check kde-look.org). It doesn't come with any by default01:40
dekhelpmeyah01:40
dekhelpmei did that01:40
dekhelpmedownloaded 5 to test01:40
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dekhelpmeit's like i'm missing QT or whatever dek uses01:40
mike__dekhelpme: Where'd you extract them to?01:40
dekhelpmemike__:  I used dekorator to import?01:40
vzduchrunpain: in case you need me to get back on anything of that, I am usually here in the evenings between 2000 and 0100 CEST01:41
Kprofthreatmike__: What partition software/ sys monitor did you use to check your swap?01:41
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dekhelpmebut this seems to be the issue.. how come i can find the package with apt-get but not adept ?01:41
runpainthks vz01:41
runpainbrb01:41
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dekhelpmeAdept has unsupported / proprietary enabled01:41
KprofthreatDid you run sudo-apt get update and sudo-apt get upgrade?01:41
dekhelpme*shrug01:41
mike__dekhelpme: That didn't work for me when I tried it. Had to manually extract them. I think it was to ~/.kde/share/apps/dekorator/themes, but I could be wrong - been a while since I used dekorator01:41
dekhelpmesudo apt-get update01:41
runpainGod Bless You all that have been a help01:41
KprofthreatTry upgrade01:42
vzduchdekhelpme: which package?01:42
dekhelpmewait01:42
dekhelpmeyes01:42
dekhelpmevzduch: kwin-style-dekorator01:42
danya_kprofthreat : what's KDE deader ?01:42
KprofthreatHe doesn't see it in Adept01:42
dekhelpmevzduch: Adept finds it as just the dekorator package for Kprofthreat01:42
mike__Kprofthreat: KInfoCenter's memory module and top both say there's 0 swap space01:42
danya_header*01:42
dekhelpmebut for me Adept doesn't see it at all.. yet apt-get will let me install kwin-style-dekorator <<-- which breaks01:42
vzduchdielucht@zalle:~$ aptitude search dekorator01:43
vzduchp   kwin-style-dekorator                                                              - windows decoration for kde using user-supplied PNG files01:43
Kprofthreatdanya_: Headers are files that help you compile source code.01:43
vzduchdekhelpme: there you have the name01:43
dekhelpmevzduch:  yah,  that installs fine, but when i enable it under styles01:43
dekhelpmeit doesn't work01:43
Kprofthreatdanya_: What are you trying to do?01:43
danya_kprofthreat : shall I install everything related to KDE in package manager ?01:43
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dekhelpmevzduch:  you should read what we've been talking about it, i've mentioned it 4 times now that i've installed it manually just fine01:43
dekhelpmewith apt-get01:44
mike__Kprofthreat: KControl's Disk & Filesystems module is showing the swap partition, but under the Mount Point column for it (which I thought should be blank for swap partitions?), it just says "<mount point>"01:44
dekhelpmewhy can i not see it with Adept?01:44
mike__Err, one sec...01:44
danya_Kprofthreat : Im trying to install a theme .. and whenever I configure the output is that01:44
danya_are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.01:44
danya_So, check this please and use another prefix!01:44
Kprofthreatdanya_: I have just the solution for you. One second.01:44
vzduchdekhelpme: why do you care if you did get it installed? :)01:45
dekhelpmelil build essentials and some linux-headers-'uname -a' etc etc01:45
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dekhelpmevzduch:  CAUSE IT INSTALLS BUT WHEN I CHOOSE IT, MY WINDOW MANAGER DISSAPEARS, EVEN USING 10 DIFFERENT THEMES01:45
Kprofthreatdanza_: Open up Adept and search for kdebase-dev01:45
dekhelpmesorry capz01:45
Kprofthreatdanza_: Also make sure you have the latest lib dev packages.01:46
mike__Kprofthreat: Ok, I think I'm good. Stupid mistake on my part. I'm still curious as to why that would've happened though - it's like the swap partition just took a notion to try and get the day off or something. :-\ Any ideas?01:46
danya_kprofthreat : whats Adept ? lol .. I've only been using this for a couple of days01:46
dekhelpmeHow come I can't find a program via adept01:46
dekhelpmewtf is with that01:46
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mike__dekhelpme: Use Synaptic. It's better ;-) (Although I make no claim that will solve the particular problem you're having)01:47
Kprofthreatmike_: I'm afraid not. I've never had that happen before.01:47
TeraDynedanya_: you need the KDE headers?01:47
Kprofthreatdanya_: No problem. =] 01:47
Kprofthreatdanya_: Type alt + f201:47
danya_TeraDyne : yes01:47
dekhelpmeokay i found it in adept, it's there, installed.. but  my window manager still dissapears when i  enable it01:47
KprofthreatOr nvm01:48
KprofthreatJust go and click on your menu01:48
danya_kprofthreat : and ?01:48
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KprofthreatGo to system>>>adept01:48
TeraDynedanya_: "sudo aptitude install kdelibs4-dev" for the KDE 3.x development headers01:48
KprofthreatAdept/Synaptic = your friend. =] 01:48
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KprofthreatThat works too.01:48
dekhelpmei like command line and have no problem with apt-get01:48
Kprofthreat!aterm01:48
Kprofthreat!info aterm01:49
Kprofthreat!info eterm01:49
TeraDynebotlag01:49
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Kprofthreat...Blargh01:49
danya_kprofthreat : I know how to use synaptic .. I'm just confused because there are too many KDE packages01:49
dekhelpmelast time I built dekorator from scratch and it worked fine, but the package is broken in apt-get .. Has anyone here even tried to use it?01:49
mike__Kprofthreat: On a completely unrelated note, I'm having another strange problem with suspend/resume on a laptop - Sometimes when I resume, the display doesn't turn on, so I have to hit the suspend key and then power it back up and everything's fine.01:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about aterm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:49
ubotuaterm: Afterstep XVT - a VT102 emulator for the X window system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0-4 (feisty), package size 81 kB, installed size 228 kB01:49
ubotueterm: Enlightened Terminal Emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.4.0debian1-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 415 kB, installed size 1100 kB01:49
dekhelpmedanya_: sec01:49
arthas__what is the channel for kubuntu in Spanish?01:49
arthas__pls01:49
vzduch!es | arthas__01:49
ubotuarthas__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:49
KprofthreatIf there is one, I'd guess kubuntu-es01:49
kobiwanI had gnome and beryl - I went and got KDE and now beryl wont work Please if some one can help me01:49
KprofthreatOh look at that01:49
arthas__tanks01:50
arthas__gracias01:50
aznpridechinesecan someone help me do something? i'm using kubuntu feisty and i want to switch to ubuntu instead, how do i get my dvd writer to write me an ubuntu cd using an ISO file?01:50
KprofthreatDe nada01:50
vzduchde nada :)01:50
mike__kobiwan: Beryl won't even work under Gnome anymore?01:50
dekhelpmedanya_: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`01:50
vzduch!k3b | aznpridechinese01:50
ubotuaznpridechinese: k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto01:50
KprofthreatDid you make a separate session for KDE?01:50
dekhelpmedanya_:  type that, then re-run what you were doing and you will be a-okay01:50
kobiwanwhat do you mean why not It was working 3 days ago??01:50
mike__kobiwan: I was asking. ;-)01:51
kobiwanohhhhh oki sorry01:51
dekhelpmeand i guess i'm going to have to install compiling capabilities on my machine because dekorator isn't working for me from the packages01:51
mike__Heh, np01:51
dekhelpmecan anyone try to install/run dekorator01:51
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dekhelpmeand verify it's just me01:51
dekhelpmeor if it's actually a bug01:52
KprofthreatOddly enough, it didn't wanna install through sudo apt-get for me.01:52
Kprofthreat=/01:52
mike__dekhelpme: Did you try what I said with manually installing the themes (i.e., unzipping them to ~/.kde/share/apps/dekorator/themes)?01:52
kobiwanI don't know how do I back to gnome to check01:52
dekhelpmemike__:  i missed that but will try now, thankyou01:52
KprofthreatAre you in KDE right now?01:52
dekhelpmeyep01:52
mike__dekhelpme: Np01:52
dekhelpmesec trying mikes method01:52
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danya_dekhelpme : can u rewrite the command again plz :)01:52
Kprofthreatkobiwan: You're going to need to log out and select the gnome session before you log in again01:53
mike__kobiwan: Select Gnome as the session at the login screen01:53
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mike__kobiwan: You should be using Compiz-Fusion instead of Beryl anyway though - Beryl's dead, as in, no more updates01:53
Flegmapls how can i remove package without removing dependencies????01:53
Kprofthreatmike__: Agreed.01:53
Kprofthreatkobiwan: I'd suggest uninstalling Beryl completely...01:54
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Kprofthreatkobiwan: sudo apt-get remove beryl-manager beryl-settings emerald-settings01:54
KprofthreatWhat GPU?01:54
aznpridechineseso do i want to use burn dvd iso image for what i watn to do?01:54
Kprofthreataznpridechinese: Are you trying to burn a live dvd?01:55
mike__Actually, Compiz-Fusion can still use Emerald, so you may want to keep Beryl installed (at least until they sort out the dependency issue with Emerald/Beryl)01:55
aznpridechineseno, just an installation dvd from an iso file01:55
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dekhelpmemike__:  I tried, but it wouldn't let me overwrite the files that are already there, imported fine.. so i forced it, same issue01:55
dekhelpmeKprofthreat:  so when you sudo apt-get install kwin-style-dekorator01:55
kobiwanoki is Compiz better01:55
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danya_dekhelpme : plz can u rewrite the command again :) ?01:55
aznpridechineseand i can't mess up cuz i only have 1 more dvd left01:55
dekhelpmeKprofthreat:  and a theme, did it work01:55
mike__dekhelpme: Did you install it as root or something?01:55
Kprofthreatmike__: Meh. Don't HAVE to do that.01:55
dekhelpmedanya_: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`01:55
mike__Kprofthreat: ?01:56
veauxHi, searching here for some help configuring Beryl01:56
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Kprofthreatdekhelpme: I didn't try it.01:56
dekhelpmemike__:  uhm, dekorator yes, the theme no01:56
Kprofthreatdekhelpme: Let's see your sources.list01:56
mike__dekhelpme: Weird. Can't imagine why it wouldn't let you overwrite. Are the themes that you installed even showing up when you go to choose them?01:57
Kprofthreatveaux: We're a bit backlogged right now. If you don't get an immediate reply, try #ubuntu-effects or #beryl01:57
veauxthx01:57
danya_dekhelpme : I'm still getting the same error .. no kDE headers :(01:58
mike__veaux: You'd be better off going with Compiz-Fusion over Beryl, since Beryl's pretty much abandonware at this point01:58
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qkhnSelamlar..01:58
qkhniyi geceler01:58
runpainichthux what is thier problem thought they would want to be sure they could have a good product01:58
dekhelpmedanya_:  SEC01:58
Kprofthreatmike__: While I find Compiz Fusion smoother than Beryl, it is still alpha-ware and therefore may not be for everyone's boxes.01:58
qkhnTrk yokmu?01:58
Flegmapls how can i remove package without removing dependencies????01:59
veauxmike_: will search for this one. I hope my issue is resolved in this one01:59
dekhelpmedanya_: sudo apt-get install kdebase-dev01:59
qkhnor can you speak turkish?01:59
dekhelpmedanya_:  that should get you the kde headers01:59
Kprofthreat..Do we have a turkish channel?01:59
dekhelpmepastebin is taking forever01:59
qkhnturkish channel?01:59
kobiwanis it difficult to install "Compiz-Fusion" ?01:59
qkhnare there?01:59
mike__Kprofthreat: Depends on what plugins you enable that determines its stability. Most people, from what I've seen, say C-F is more stable than Beryl. I'm inclined to agree with them01:59
mike__kobiwan: Have you ever added a repository?01:59
kobiwanI think so02:00
Kprofthreatmike__: It's crashed kwin a few times, but other than that, it's pretty smooth for alphaware.02:00
mike__kobiwan: If so, it's just as easy as installing Beryl.02:00
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Kprofthreatmike__: If he installed Beryl, he edited his sources.list.02:00
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KprofthreatBrb all.02:00
dekhelpmemike__:  Yah the themese are there.. i installed dekorator as root, you have to.. then i went into kcontrol via my own user account and imported .. i've also done the manual install02:00
mike__Kprofthreat: Not manually, necessarily ;-)02:00
kobiwanyes I did edit my source list02:00
mike__dekhelpme: One sec...02:01
dekhelpmeKprofthreat: http://pastebin.com/94461502:01
mike__kobiwan: Check here: http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/index.html - You want the "eye candy" repository02:01
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mike__dekhelpme: Did you set all the paths?02:02
runpaingona download older version02:03
dekhelpmemike__:  Frames and Buttons?  no...02:03
dekhelpmemike__:  Didn't do that last time either02:03
mike__dekhelpme: I think that's what you're missing. I had to do that to get it to work, if I remember correctly02:04
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dekhelpmemike__:  reeeallly.. okay.. *gives it a shot02:04
Seek_Therapywhats the default port for ROR02:04
dekhelpmethx02:04
dr_willisROR ?02:04
Kprofthreatkobiwan: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=48131402:05
Seek_Therapyruby on rails02:05
mike__dekhelpme: It seems weird that you would have to do that, as it kind of defeats the purpose of telling it what theme to use, but whatever. I didn't code it. :-P02:05
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dekhelpmemike__:  You are my hero02:06
dekhelpmemike__:  Absolutely02:06
dekhelpmemike__:  I owe you buddy02:06
dekhelpmelol02:06
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dekhelpmehooray i didn't have to compile anything from source this install!02:06
dekhelpmeMike02:06
dekhelpme.... I am so happy02:06
dekhelpmeyou dun know02:06
dekhelpmethanks buddy02:06
dekhelpmethanks Kprofthreat alot for tryin too02:07
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dekhelpmeohhh02:07
KprofthreatPfft, for trying. Lol02:07
BluesKaj!tr02:07
dekhelpmehoorah02:07
ubotuTurk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.02:07
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dekhelpmewow02:07
dekhelpmeokay02:07
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dekhelpmegonna go change my panties02:07
dekhelpmethanks again02:07
aznpridechinesequestion, if i click on an iso would it automatically burn the image onto a dvd for me in k3d?02:07
aznpridechinesek3b02:07
TeraDyneaznpridechinese: yes02:08
BluesKajif you right click on it you can choose yes02:08
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Squirrely_WrathCan anyone tell me how to remove a program from startup?  Xchat automatically starts up everytime I boot ant it is driving me insane.02:10
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BluesKajyeah , especially xchat , that drive me round the bend too :)02:11
sven-tekhello kubuntu users02:11
sven-tekiam just using a feisty kubuntu live cd02:11
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sven-tekiam testing kmail with my imap server - i can not get the account to work02:11
sven-tekat some point i tried "login" as authentication method and now i can not set it back02:12
sven-tekiam am caught between two dialogs02:12
mike__Well, I'm off to play some Frets on Fire. Peace out, everyone.02:13
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sven-tekerror: this authentication method is not supported" and then o click ok - and then the password dialog appears. and no matter what i do i can not go to another kmail window02:14
sven-tekeven killing it and restarting kmail did not help02:14
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BluesKajSquirrely_Wrath, just a thought are you closing xchat before shutting down the pc?02:17
stonedflash stuff seems to randomly crash konqueror or firefox in kubuntu02:17
stonedtotal browser lockup02:18
BluesKajSquirrely_Wrath, and another , there might be an option in xchat itself to launch itself upon login02:18
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stonedwhat gives02:18
Squirrely_WrathI haven't noticed an option anywhere and...um...I'll have to check on the closing thing02:19
Squirrely_Wrathsooooooooooooo brb02:19
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vzduchmornin' intelikey02:21
BluesKajstoned, install flashplugin-nonfree and if you wish  flashplayer-nonfree02:21
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intelikeyvzduch02:22
danya_how to install phyton libraries and headers ? through terminal not Synaptic02:22
danya_python*02:23
dr_willisdanya_,  may want to read the apt-get manual. Finding the package names may be the hardest part02:23
dr_willissudo apt-get install Whatever02:23
dr_willisapt-cache search whatever02:23
dr_willisto get package names02:23
gilsterwhat audio editing tool can i use to split a large mp3/wav file into tracks using a premade cue file?02:23
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dr_willisapt-cache search python02:23
dr_willis!find python02:23
ubotuFound: bittornado, diveintopython, diveintopython-zh, libapache2-mod-python, libapache2-mod-python-doc (and 621 others)02:23
dr_willis621 others... :)02:23
dr_willis!info diveintopython02:24
ubotudiveintopython: free Python book for experienced programmers. In component main, is optional. Version 5.4-2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 340 kB, installed size 4220 kB02:24
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intelikeyapt-cache search python | grep dev02:24
dr_willisCool.. Not seen that package befor.02:24
Squirrely_WrathYaaaaaaaaaaaay!  The suggestion worked!  Now I have another problem. lol02:24
dr_willis!info diveintopython-zh02:24
ubotudiveintopython-zh: free Python book for experienced programmers. In component main, is optional. Version 5.4-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 484 kB, installed size 3584 kB02:24
dr_williswonder what -zh means...02:24
dr_willisdifferent language?02:24
intelikeyyeah02:24
danya_dr_willis : U just got me more confused :P02:24
dr_williswhats zh then? :)02:25
intelikey!zh02:25
ubotuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk02:25
vzduchdr_willis: Chinese perhaps02:25
dr_willisdanya_,  time to get learning then! :)02:25
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danya_dr_willis : after all it's 3:30 a.m over here :P02:25
dr_willisBut Pythons are from South AMerica.. they dont live in china!02:25
dr_willis:)02:25
vzduchlol02:25
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TeraDyneXD02:25
Squirrely_WrathWhen I booted up, My computer said something like sda/hda1 has been mounted 22 times without being checked.  Check forced.   Anything I can do about that?02:25
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intelikeydr_willis you sure they don't live in southern asia too ?02:26
dr_willisI thought that was some other snake down there...02:26
doudou92Squirrely02:26
Squirrely_Wrathyes?02:26
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doudou92What format is used for your disk?02:26
dr_willisI cant seem to rember any tv shows with large constictors   that were not in South America.. How about Austrila?02:26
dr_willisperhaps they took a bus. ;)02:27
intelikeymaybe a boat02:27
TeraDyneNo, they took a plane.02:27
Squirrely_Wrathum....not totally sure.  I am using the standard ubuntu formats.  ext3, got a small fat32 for my dualboot setup.  Also got the swap02:27
intelikeydr_willis google knos02:27
intelikeyw02:27
dr_willisActually I seem to recall Hawaii getting invaded by some small snake from Some where from Asia.02:28
BluesKajdr_willis, wanna bet...pythons are found all around the world02:28
TeraDyneI wonder...02:28
dr_willisBluesKaj,  theres none in my backyard! :)02:28
dr_willisActually they did find one in a local river.. like 20 ft long.. dead. (yea)02:28
dr_willisthen it came out. it was a Pet someone had dumped.02:28
BluesKajyou should be glad about that02:28
doudou92I have the same "problem" with an ext3 formated disk. I think it's a security but it didn't appear to be anormal.02:28
dr_willisIt was dead to begin when he dumped it.. Honest! :)02:28
Squirrely_Wrathokay.  Just wondering.  Not used to that kinda thing02:29
intelikeyyou can bet if i dumped one it would be dead.02:29
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intelikeyme and a friend killed over 300 snakes in one day.  local water shed pond02:30
dr_willisMeanie!02:30
Squirrely_WrathOh!  y the way, this is really little, but anyone know where I can get an icon for the kde control center?02:30
dr_willis:)02:30
Squirrely_Wrathby*02:30
ciaconhi guys - has anyone got an Idea about teamspeak on Kubuntu??02:31
dr_willisSquirrely_Wrath,  i always add the control-panel applet to my panel.02:31
NickPrestaSquirrely_Wrath, kde-look.org/ has tons of icons and such for everything. check there02:31
dr_willisciacon,  ive had it working under linux befor.. not lately however.02:31
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Squirrely_Wrathdr_willis I didn't have any control panel applets.  I had to make a launcher for it manually.02:31
intelikeySquirrely_Wrath the houndreds of icons to choose from already on your system not enough ?02:32
dr_willisSquirrely_Wrath,  odd.. I always seem to have one. :)   addaplet to panel -> settings02:32
Squirrely_Wrathintelikey I know there are tons, I am just trying to keep everything polished as possible so I was trying to go with the default02:32
ciacondr_willis: it's not necisarily a current problem02:33
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ciaconI am on a channel with a mate... he is complaining, that he can hear himself echo and any sound that is off my desktop (e.g. mp3 player)...02:33
intelikeyyou know i actually use a default kernel on one system...  that's so unlike me to leave anything default...02:34
ciaconi should mybe note, that I am wearing headphones, and that this path of sound is to be ruled out02:34
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dr_willischeck your mixer perhaps.02:36
dr_willisI recall some how haveing a 'what you hear' or similer thing in various voice chat programs also.02:36
dr_willisdepending on the mixer settings.02:36
intelikeyhigh ho ?      what kind of message are you trying to convay with that  nickname?02:36
ciacondr_willis: where would I start? I have no idea, why my sound is (from speakers) is in the mic02:36
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wolferineim just setting up a new DB, what is the most commonly used 'type' for username, person's name, address, etc? length?02:37
intelikeyciacon input volume too high ?02:37
|HighHo|no message at all, its just a nickname02:37
wolferineany "strings"02:38
sven-tekkmail is crap02:38
dr_willisciacon,  fire up alsamixer and start twiddling I guess.02:38
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crash_Algum brasileiro02:38
TeraDynesven-tek: how so?02:38
vzduch!br | crash_02:39
ubotucrash_: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.02:39
crash_tanks02:39
sven-teki wanted to do some testing with pgp compatibility but i didnt even get so far02:39
sven-teki crashes from the livecd when i enter my imap account02:39
sven-tek^it02:39
crash_^02:39
crash_^^02:39
intelikeysven-tek libe CD ...    which flavour ?02:40
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ciacondr_willis: it was the mixer settings ;-)... I had the record settings on for the "wave"02:40
sven-tekkubuntu 7.04 desktop of course02:40
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intelikeyummm hmmm02:41
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intelikeysad "the average U.S. household has 2.55 people and 2.73 TVs."02:42
aznpridechineseneed help, i just tried burning an iso image to my dvd with k3b but it gave me a reformatting error and it just started burning it then at the end it said some kind of buffer error02:42
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BluesKajaznpridechinese, try to play the dvd anyway , it may still work02:43
BluesKaji've had such errors in the pastand the burn was fine , strange but true02:44
aznpridechinesethe iso was the installation for for ubuntu02:45
aznpridechinesethe cd didn't boot when i restarted the computer02:45
intelikeysounds like you made a frisby02:45
BluesKajdid you run the checksum previous to the burn02:45
aznpridechinesewhat is that?02:46
aznpridechineseu wonna walk me through it?02:46
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aznpridechinesei got 1 more dvd left02:46
dr_willisYou are burning the DVD iso image?02:47
dr_willisnot the cd iso image?02:47
aznpridechineseyes02:47
aznpridechinesedvd iso image02:47
dr_willisdvd iso image of what exactly anyway?02:47
aznpridechinesea ubuntu installation dvd02:47
dr_williswhy are ya even bothering with the dvd image. :)02:47
aznpridechinesecuz i don't have any cds available atm02:48
aznpridechinesebut will soon02:48
dr_willisheh.02:48
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dr_willisthese are dvd+RW's ?02:48
aznpridechineseyes02:48
dr_willisso you shouwl be able to format/erase them :)02:48
aznpridechinesethat's the thing, k3b couldn't do it02:48
aznpridechineseit gave me an error02:49
dr_willisk3b will scan/calculage the checksum on the iso file also. to be sure its correct02:49
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dr_willisI dont even have a DVD+RW to try to format the things.02:49
BluesKajaznpridechinese, http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Ubuntu/2007-02/msg01827.html02:49
intelikeyi don't even have a dvd player02:49
dr_willisI dont even have a computer!02:49
dr_willis:)02:50
aznpridechineseand the thing is, i've burned my kubuntu installation dvd in windows vista just fine02:50
dr_willisuoq s,ndo 02:50
aznpridechineseso i know it's got to be the program02:50
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dr_willisrun k3b from the terminal and see if any errors show up. maby it needs some extra support apps02:50
CrunchyFerrett.02:51
CrunchyFerrett!en02:51
ubotuThe #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat02:51
BluesKajaznpridechinese, did you check the URL I posted above ?02:51
aznpridechineseyes, i'm a linux noob so i don't really know what they said02:51
dr_willisFrom what i can tell in k3b - the 'dvd+rw-format' command/package needs to be installed.02:51
dr_willisk3b->settings->setup k3b ->programs02:52
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dr_willisdvd+rw-format  --help02:52
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dr_willisusage: dvd+rw-format  /dev/dvddevice02:53
aznpridechinesedr willis my k3b doesn't have those menus02:53
BluesKajIC aznpridechinese , so you're in windows right now ?02:53
dr_williswhat version of kubutu ya got? check them again. :)02:54
aznpridechineseno02:54
aznpridechinesei'm in kubuntu02:54
dr_willisor use the command line.02:54
aznpridechinesefeisty02:54
aznpridechinesei don't know what the commands are02:54
dr_willisIm using feisty also.. check agagin.02:54
dr_willisI just pasted themn :)02:54
dr_willisusage: dvd+rw-format  /dev/dvddevice02:54
dr_willisnow what dvddevice is - is the question02:54
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intelikeyfor Q in /dev/scd* /dev/hd? ;do eject $Q && echo $Q ;done02:56
aznpridechinesethe command you gave me said * BD/DVD+RW/-RAM format utility by <appro@fy.chalmers.se>, version 7.0 :-( unable to open :"/dev/dvddevice"): No such file or directory02:56
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dr_willisaznpridechinese,  now 'think' about what its saying...02:57
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dr_willisyou need to FIND out what device your DVD is.02:57
dr_willisand use that /dev/whatevertheheckitis02:58
dr_willisls -l /dev/dvd MIGHT show a useable device.. so /dev/dvd MIGHT work02:58
dr_willisit might now02:58
dr_willisnot.02:58
dr_willisls -l /dev/dvd02:58
dr_willislrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2007-07-05 01:13 /dev/dvd -> scd002:58
intelikeyfor Q in /dev/scd* /dev/hd? ;do eject $Q && echo $Q ;done02:58
dr_willisis what i got here..  Do you have a /dev/dvd ?02:58
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aznpridechineseyah it showed /dev/dvd -> hda02:59
dr_willisintelikey,  :) like ejecting the cd to see what machine you are sshed to. :)02:59
dr_willisout of the whole room of pcs02:59
dr_willisaznpridechinese,  so use /dev/dvd then02:59
intelikeydr_willis hey if it works.02:59
dr_willisHmm.. why is yours hda and myne scd02:59
aznpridechineseok it says 4.7GB DVD+RW media detected when i ran dvd+rw-format  /dev/dvddevice03:00
aznpridechinesewell /dev/dvd03:00
aznpridechinese now what?03:02
dr_willisdid it do somthing to the disk?03:02
dr_willisthat command should of formated the disk03:02
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dr_willis ive never used the command befor.. and cant even test it on any +RW's since i got none.   The full option list for the command is     dvd+rw-format  [-force[=full] ]   [-lead-out  |  -blank[=full] ]   [-ssa[=none  |  default | max] ]  /dev/dvd03:03
dr_willisdvd+rw-format -force=full /dev/dvd03:03
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dr_williswill proberly force a total reformat of the disk.03:03
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aznpridechinesei think someone is hacking my computer03:04
aznpridechinesemy mouse lags like hell and my keyboard goes crazy typing things that i didn't put there03:05
aznpridechinesethen my whole system locks up03:05
NickPrestaaznpridechinese, aside from that, what makes you think your computer's security has been compromised?03:05
dr_willis:)03:06
aznpridechinesewell i know computers don't just do stuff like that03:06
dr_willissounds like a normal windows machine to me.03:06
aznpridechinesei'm not using windows03:06
aznpridechinesei'm in kubuntu feisty03:06
dr_willisi doubt if anyone 'hacked' into your feisty box.03:06
dr_willisits possible theres some hardware issues going on.03:06
NickPrestaaznpridechinese, do you get any strange errors at boot up or do you have to do anything to cause these problems to happen? Can you reproduce them at any time? And are you on a laptop?03:06
frojndhow can I shutdown server? and how can I shut down ubuntu in with command line?03:07
aznpridechineseno i'm on a high end pc03:07
aznpridechineseand no i don't get any errors on bootup03:07
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intelikeyaznpridechinese check your logs03:07
aznpridechinesein anycase i'd just like to burn ubuntu iso image onto my dvd-rw disc03:07
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aznpridechinesehow do i check the log?03:07
NickPrestabeing on a high-end system doesn't mean you can't have hardware support problems. You should go to pastebin and post the output of "dmesg" and "lshw".03:08
intelikeyyou search through them ?03:08
dr_willishigh end pc. dosent meanmuch.. If you system is having hardware issues that may be whats going on with the burning also.03:08
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intelikeyaznpridechinese /var/log/*03:08
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zer0hello03:08
HighHofrojnd:  init 603:08
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zer0kan anyone speek private?03:08
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aznpridechinesehow do i paste it?03:08
NickPrestaaznpridechinese, also, check out /var/log/syslog, /var/log/boot03:08
vzduchHighHo: 'init 6' == reboot; for shutdown use 'init 0'03:08
intelikeyand "high end" does mean that the hardware is probably not nearly as well supported03:09
NickPrestasorry, not /var/log/boot03:09
intelikey!paste | aznpridechinese03:09
ubotuaznpridechinese: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:09
BluesKajzer0, just ask your question03:09
aznpridechinesei can't access the text in GUI so i don't know how to actually copy everything in CLI and paste them into GUI03:10
intelikeyzer0 most of us only speek english03:10
dr_williscant access what text in gui?03:10
dr_willisfire up konsole, and use the commands there..03:10
dr_willis!konsole03:10
dr_willis!term03:10
intelikey!cli03:10
dr_willis!sexy beach 303:11
dr_willis:)03:11
intelikeydead bot03:11
NickPrestaaznpridechinese, also, you may want to check out "top" in a console, and see if there are any odd spikes in usage that can be attributed to these problems.03:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about konsole - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about term - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:11
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal03:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sexy beach 3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:11
dr_willis!lag03:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lag - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:11
vzducho003:11
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aznpridechinesewhat is top in a console?03:12
stonedubotu: you don't know nothin03:12
stonedaznpridechinese: processor monitor03:13
aznpridechineseand i still can't figure out how to to paste from CLI to a GUI03:13
stonedI like htop03:13
stonedaznpridechinese: just select whatever you want03:13
NickPrestaany variation of top is fine ;)03:13
stonedthen paste with middle click03:13
stonedor click the mousewheel03:13
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aznpridechinesewell this thing that freezes up my computer and types things hasn't happened before, and i've been using linux for about 5 days now03:13
stoneddon't give up03:14
aznpridechineseit only lets me select so much though03:14
stonedwhat thing freezes up?03:14
intelikey".net is designed specially to be used by 4.0 browsers and above. If you are using an older version, you may download the latest free by clicking the following: Internet Explorer and/or Netscape Navigator"        hehheh !   i'm using " ELinks 0.10.6 "   :)03:14
oslohi do you know how to use cross-compiling ? arm-linux ???03:14
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dr_willisoslo,  i recall the 'nslu' unslung web site had some docs on tha topic. :)03:14
dr_willissince i think the NSLU2 used an ARM cpu.03:14
stonedgo to #ubuntu03:14
intelikeyaznpridechinese one simple test.  if you think that there is really a cracker on your box.   disconnect it from the net and see if it changes.03:15
dr_willisi wonder where my NSLU2 went...03:15
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intelikeyoh duh no one can disconnect anymore.... what am i thinking.....03:15
stonednslu sounds like a university name03:15
oslodr_willis> i gonna check03:15
dr_willisintelikey,  :)03:15
intelikey:)03:16
BluesKajaznpridechinese, type the word ' top ' in the konsole, you'll find Konsole in the k-menu in the "system "03:16
aznpridechineseok03:16
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aznpridechinesetop showed a bunch of things processes and root users etc03:19
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oslodr_willis> this one http://www.nslu2-linux.org ?03:19
aznpridechineseit's not doing anything right now03:20
BluesKajoh aznpridechinese , i thought someone told you what to look for03:20
BluesKajcuz i don't know either :)03:20
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intelikeyroot users ???03:21
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intelikeyaznpridechinese that sounds a lot like a crack  yeah.     unless you have root doing something you should disconnect and fix that03:22
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jim87410I have services running under root and I know my system is ok.03:25
BluesKajintelikey, what would a cracker look like ?03:25
K-RyanBluesKaj: Usually white and comes in plastic03:25
K-Ryan=)03:25
intelikeyBluesKaj like an uninvited guest03:26
BluesKajor some 14 yrold scriptkiddie with pimples and coke bottle glasses :)03:26
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BluesKajin top , what does a std safe output look like ?03:27
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intelikeyBluesKaj normal output would have no root users in it.03:29
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BluesKaji have several  'root' in the list but no 'root users'03:30
intelikeycorrect "but no 'root users'"03:30
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BluesKajfor ex:   31 root      20  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kacpid03:32
intelikeyin fact on any system in this channel except mine seeing root users would be a red flag       "most likely"03:32
intelikeyBluesKaj also  who  or  w   if root shows up then you need to see what is going on03:34
intelikeyof course yours wont look like mine.03:35
intelikeytty24 [root@~]  who03:35
intelikeytty24 [root@~] 03:35
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NickPrestaWow, the Cube Atlantis plugin for Compiz Fusion is neat...03:37
zerothisis there a terminal that shows colored docments in color AND does unicode?03:38
BluesKajshow me yours and I'll show you mine :)  don't wann a use that request when it comes to discussing a 'root" :)03:38
NickPrestaspeaking of Compiz Fusion, how stable is it in comparison to Beryl 0.2.1?03:38
zerothisor shell, rather03:38
BluesKajit's alll window dressing anyway , NickPresta  :003:39
intelikeyunicode any shell/terminal/console   but colour is another ball of wax03:40
NickPrestaBluesKaj, I know. I just don't want to switch to CF when Beryl 0.2.1 is running perfectly fine for me. I don't see any _huge_ new plugins.03:40
intelikeyand yes they all do colour  but not like you might  think03:40
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intelikey or maybe you would  think ...03:41
intelikeyidk03:41
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zerothisI can get konsole to show unicode, I can get konsole to show color, does seem to do both at once.03:41
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zerothisdoes not, rather03:42
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TeraDyneI really should start remembering to close Konversation before using irssi...03:43
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bertinayes03:45
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dr_willisshow what color?03:47
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intelikeyhmmm odd unicode seems to be broken on dapper03:49
zerothisshow color in documents, HTML for instance. not link/visitedlin/text color per se, but the the document text is designed in03:49
intelikeyhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3802903:49
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intelikeyzerothis ?03:49
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intelikeywhat are you viewing the text with ?03:49
zerothiselinks03:49
intelikeyit does colour by default03:50
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intelikey"which i always turn off"03:50
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intelikeyget in the menu and confriggr it03:50
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TeraDyne*sigh* What's the package for the Kontact newsgroup reader?03:52
dr_willishmm.. only Konsole color i can think of is the LS color  of the filenames.03:52
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intelikeyhow ever i should note that console != konsole  so  terminal emulatores03:52
intelikeymeh.03:52
dr_willisso what one are we talking about..  Bah.. never mind. :) i dont care any more. heh03:53
intelikeyls --color=auto    ?03:53
jhutchinsgrep does color these days, as does vi.03:53
BluesKajdr_willis, have another beer :)03:53
dr_willisgrep does?03:53
intelikeymc also03:53
zerothiskonsole linux console +elinks shows color for me, but unicode is all questionmarks. konsole shell shows all the unicode but in b&w03:53
intelikeydr_willis yes03:53
intelikeyhas for several releases03:54
dr_willisi cant recall that optionb.. but my grep books are a bit old. :)03:54
dr_willisi do recall using some 'colorizer' tool ages ago03:54
dr_williscolorizing my logs :)03:54
intelikeygrep          --colour[=WHEN] , --color[=WHEN] 03:54
TeraDynenevermind my question. It was knode that I was looking for.03:55
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dr_willisgrep share smb.conf   --color03:56
dr_willisthats handy :)03:56
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zerothiskonsole: Unknown option '--color=auto'.03:56
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dr_willisls --color=auto03:56
dr_willisls option, not a konsole option.03:57
dr_willis:)03:57
intelikeyman grep | grep --colour=auto colour -A 203:57
intelikey:)03:57
semistud2354i have a problem....everytime i make a link to ----------sudo ln -s /var/run/xdmctl/xdmctl-:0 /var/run/xdmctl/xdmctl-:1---- it makes the link but when i reboot its gone....any ideas how to make it permanent03:57
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dr_willisNow do 'color' OR 'colour' :)03:58
semistud2354????03:58
dr_willissemistud2354,  dare we ask  Why you are making that link?03:59
intelikeysemistud2354 sure tell the initramfs image not to mount ram on that dir03:59
intelikeysemistud2354 cat /proc/mounts03:59
intelikey:)03:59
semistud2354if i make that link i get the reboot, shutdown buttions back when i run beryl03:59
semistud2354ok...so what do i type in konsole03:59
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intelikeyecho '\nln -s /var/run/xdmctl/xdmctl-:0 /var/run/xdmctl/xdmctl-:1' >> /etc/rc.local      :)04:00
intelikeybut you'll have to be root  ;/04:01
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hitmanWillyintelikey: probably have to do that with sudo and tee on a buntu box04:01
semistud2354so sudo echo '\nln -s /var/run/xdmctl/xdmctl-:0 /var/run/xdmctl/xdmctl-:1' >> /etc/rc.local04:01
keisangihi there, i was wondering if it's possible to configure this in kde:  double click on the desktop to open a new dolphin window.. what do you think , is it possible ?04:01
semistud2354thats the command right04:01
semistud2354??04:01
intelikeyhitmanWilly or do it as root.04:01
panxito__hi04:02
hitmanWillyintelikey: somehow i doubt semistud2354 has a root acct set up...04:02
intelikeysemistud2354 that would add the line to the /etc/rc.local file so it would run at boot time.04:02
intelikeyhitmanWilly sudo -i  is setup .....04:02
dr_willissound like a lot of annoyance for Beryl :)04:02
hitmanWillyintelikey: ok, that might work then04:03
semistud2354o..i can do that manually from kate04:03
intelikey:)04:03
semistud2354lol04:03
semistud2354right04:03
semistud2354??04:03
intelikeyyeah04:03
semistud2354it would be alot easier to follow04:03
dr_williskdesu kate /etc/rc.local04:03
semistud2354then just add the commands04:03
dr_willis put it at the end.. but befor the exit 0 command. (if i rember right)04:03
intelikeysemistud2354 yes.   and you don't need the sudo of your link command   cause init will be running that script04:04
intelikeydr_willis there an exit command in there by default ?04:04
intelikeyi didn't think rc.local had one  ???04:05
semistud2354ok...im gonna reboot n check it out...04:05
semistud2354brb04:05
semistud2354HOPE IT WORKS04:05
intelikeyyes you do04:05
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dr_willisintelikey,  i forget.. i seemto recall there being one at the end.04:07
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semistud2354it didnt work04:09
intelikeywhat didn't work about it ?   does the link exist now ?04:10
semistud2354i put the--ln -s /var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:0 /var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:1-- before the exit 0 command in etc/rc.local04:11
semistud2354and it didnt work04:11
semistud2354should i put it after the exit 0 thing....or it doesnt matter04:11
semistud2354or should i put sudo ln -s /var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:0 /var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:104:12
intelikeyls /var/run/xdmctl*04:12
semistud2354im going to try to put it after the exit 0 ill be right back04:13
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intelikeysemistud2354 after the exit will do what ?     lets see the script runs commands that it contains, so when it "exits" then it will ahhh .....   ahhh......      that's right.  it won't do anything, it exited04:14
hitmanWillyintelikey: too late04:14
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intelikeyand so did he.....04:15
hitmanWillyim gonna laugh when he comes back saying it didn't do anything04:15
TeraDyneAnyone want to hear something funny, but sad and stupid at the same time?04:15
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intelikeyi wish he would have ran the ls on that dir04:15
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K-RyanTeraDyne: Shoot04:15
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hitmanWillyit should have if its in the rc.local file and typed in right04:16
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intelikeyhitmanWilly yes.04:16
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TeraDyneI was trying to set up a newsgroup account, and the site says it needs a UN and Pass. Well, I spent the last 5 minutes trying to get it to work. Well, it turns out you DON'T need the UN and PASS.04:17
hitmanWillyunless the source location for the link is created post boot....04:17
K-Ryan=)04:17
TeraDyneYou can ONLY connect to the news server WITHOUT the authentication.04:17
TeraDyne5 mins... wasted...04:18
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intelikeyhitmanWilly not sure how upstart handles that...  could be a timming issue i sussspose04:18
ax1show do i make my own mouse theme04:18
ax1s;] 04:18
dr_willistake the mouse.. glue on some diamonds and glitter and 2 eyes....04:18
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intelikeyhitmanWilly make one   heh04:18
K-Ryan"The two eyes"04:18
ax1sha ha04:18
K-Ryanahahaha04:19
ax1swhat do i use04:19
ax1sto make one04:19
hitmanWillywill it still work with upstart?04:19
semistud2354ok...so i rebooted...and it didnt work04:19
hitmanWillylol04:19
dr_willisyou are refering to a mouse pointer/cursor theme?04:19
hitmanWillytold ya...04:19
dr_willisId say check the kde-look.org site and see what they got.. and  haxor one of the examples04:19
ax1syyes i am04:19
ax1swell04:19
ax1sthat's what i want to do04:19
intelikeyhitmanWilly you could make upstart a symlink to init  ?    would be worth testing i guess04:19
ax1soh04:19
ax1sfuck04:20
TeraDyne!ohmy04:20
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.04:20
ax1swell see i want to fix  a broken once04:20
hitmanWillysemistud2354: if its placed AFTER the exit cmd, why WOULD it work?04:20
ax1sone*04:20
dr_williskde-look.org has a lot of examples i recall.. none of which i use. :)04:20
intelikeyshould i repost for halfcocked's sake ?04:20
ax1sso i guess i will see how a working one works04:20
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ax1suhg i just want a niec gold theme04:20
ax1snot the classic one04:20
semistud2354i tryed putting it before it didnt work04:20
ax1sthis classic gold is pale04:20
ax1s:(04:20
hitmanWillysemistud2354: did you see if the link was created?04:21
Hambletonianalguien q hable espaol?04:21
semistud2354it wasnt04:21
intelikeyyou didn't do the 'ls' command semistud2354 to see if it worked or not.04:21
BluesKaj!es04:21
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:21
semistud2354i did the ls command in konsole04:21
semistud2354it worked04:21
ax1smother mother fuck mother mother fuck..  shit fuck shit.. fuck shit fuck04:21
Hambletonianok, Gracias04:21
semistud2354but when i put it in that local file thing....it didnt work04:21
TeraDyne!ohmy04:21
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.04:21
K-RyanHe left04:21
K-RyanAnd did it on purpose04:21
intelikey</blinks>04:22
dr_willismouse cursor themes are such a HOT topic ya know!04:22
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TeraDyneK-Ryan: Didn't even look. Trying to pay attention to something on my windows box across the room.04:22
intelikey/exit the insanity is destroying the last fragment of inteligence i had left04:22
K-RyanTeraDyne: Just letting ya' know04:22
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__Chris1What does it mean if I can get here, but my Firefox says I can't connect to any websites?04:23
TeraDyneK-Ryan: And I thank you for doing so.04:23
semistud2354ok...so i put...sudo my link..before the exit 0 command04:23
semistud2354is that right04:23
semistud2354??04:23
BluesKajax1s is angry , but gone ...will have to remind him about his language when he rejoins04:23
holycowhello04:23
HambletonianOK, bye...04:23
intelikeysemistud2354 no04:23
K-RyanYou're welcome TeraDyne04:23
semistud2354this is an anoyance that i have been living with since i installed beryl04:23
semistud2354ok...04:23
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dr_willis__Chris1,  Ive seen a few others have similer issues.. Not sure whats going on. never did see them get an answer/fix. but there may be some forum hits.04:23
intelikeysemistud2354 it doesn't need sudo   init is greater than root...04:23
hitmanWillysemistud2354: don't use sudo, rc.local is run as init (root access)04:23
semistud2354so just ----ln -s /var/run/xdmctl/xdmctl-:0 /var/run/xdmctl/xdmctl-:1---04:24
__Chris1dr_willis - Thanks.  It's always worked, and now tonight, no go...04:24
intelikeyyes04:24
hitmanWillysemistud2354: actually, using sudo might make it NOT work04:24
TeraDyneXD I crashed my WinXP box. All I was doing was transfering a copy of the Ubuntu Server ISO...04:24
semistud2354ok...i didnt use it...i was just wonering why it didnt work....04:24
semistud2354do i have to make the link in the konsole...then put it in rc.local...04:24
semistud2354so it protects it04:25
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semistud2354or...is this method...making the link automatically upon startup04:25
dr_willissemistud2354,  the command makes that link04:25
hitmanWillysemistud2354: making it automatically on startup04:25
dr_willisrc.local would then be makng that link with the command.04:25
intelikeysemistud2354 i know what the error is.    the destination file is not present when the ln command runs.04:26
semistud2354it works when i type it in konsole04:26
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semistud2354should i space them out04:26
semistud2354like command....enter...command04:26
hitmanWillysemistud2354: its one cmd04:27
intelikeysemistud2354 no it's not making it on startup like it should because the target is missing until several seconds later.     put    sleep 60    on the line above the command04:27
dr_willis /me looks for his Bash tutorial links.04:27
pagan0nethis is going to sound like a really noob question, but is there a way to upload sompthing over ssh?04:27
dr_willispagan0ne,  'scp' can do that.04:27
dr_willispagan0ne,  windows can use 'winscp'04:27
semistud2354just sleep 6004:27
semistud2354??04:27
semistud2354thats it04:27
semistud2354??04:27
intelikeysemistud2354 yes04:27
dr_willissemistud2354,  that command will make the script pause for 1 min.. then do the next command..04:27
hitmanWillysemistud2354: before the link cmd04:28
pagan0neanywhere i could go to get a quick rundown of how to use scp?04:28
holycowor you can use konqueror and login with ssh://yourusername@ip.add.dd.ress:portnumber04:28
iraanyovmware?04:28
intelikeysleep 6004:28
holycowand transfer that way04:28
intelikeyln -s /var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:0 /var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:104:28
dr_willispagan0ne,  literally 100's if not 10000's of tuorial sites out there on ssh and scp04:28
semistud2354well i want it created instantly04:28
irasorry any one using vmware04:28
pagan0neok thanks04:28
intelikeysemistud2354 no can do.04:28
dr_willispagan0ne,  scp is supposed to work like 'cp' as much as possiuble04:28
hitmanWillyintelikey: i can't remember, is that 6 or 60 secs?04:28
dr_willisI never can rember the right way to use it either. :)04:28
TeraDyne!anyone | ira04:28
ubotuira: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?04:28
semistud2354well can i put it like 30 sec04:28
semistud2354lol04:28
hitmanWillyintelikey: or .6?04:29
iracant get sound on vmware any clues04:29
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semistud2354so which one do you think i should try first??04:29
hitmanWillyintelikey: nm, maned it04:29
intelikeyhitmanWilly sleep counts seconds04:29
semistud2354so could i put like04:29
semistud2354sleep 304:30
semistud2354lol04:30
intelikeysemistud2354 sure you can04:30
iraVirtualization is great cept when it doesnt work :-)04:30
intelikeyand then add 1   until it actually works if you like04:30
semistud2354but it has to have sleep in order for it to make a link??04:30
hitmanWillysemistud2354: sleep==pause04:30
semistud2354like sleep...link...then exit 004:30
intelikeybut i suspect about 25 reboots using that methood04:30
K-RyanIs anyone good at ACM?04:30
K-Ryan!info acm04:30
ubotuacm: A multi-player aerial combat simulation. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.0-23.1 (feisty), package size 713 kB, installed size 1368 kB04:30
intelikeysemistud2354   until ln -s /var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:0 /var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:1 ;do sleep 1 ;done04:31
intelikeywhiner.04:31
ira!info vmware04:31
ubotuPackage vmware does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas04:31
hitmanWillyintelikey: nice04:31
K-Ryan!vmware04:31
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers04:31
semistud2354ok im confused04:31
hitmanWillynever thought of going that route04:31
pagan0nedr_willis: so scp works like     scp file/to/copy user@#.#.#.#:port place/to/cp/to04:31
BluesKajira, before powering up your guest OS , click the guest OS , then choose 'edit virtual machine settings ' , then click on add and you'll have the option to choose sound04:31
semistud2354i thought i was suppos to put it before the command04:31
semistud2354not after04:31
hitmanWillyof course if the error is something else it'll never boot :)04:32
intelikeysemistud2354 whiner.   just use that command in the rc.local     nothing else.04:32
irathank I iwll try that now04:32
intelikeysemistud2354   until ln -s /var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:0 /var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:1 ;do sleep 1 ;done04:32
BluesKajira, err add sound04:32
intelikeythat will keep trying until it succedes04:32
intelikeye04:32
intelikeyhitmanWilly looping the ln command will not prevent boot in rc.local04:33
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intelikeyhitmanWilly it will only prevent rc.local from exiting04:34
intelikeyit still wouldn't.   it's the last thing called04:34
semistud2354that would keep trying to make a link till it succedes04:34
semistud2354??04:34
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hitmanWillyoh, duh, last line....04:35
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intelikeysemistud2354   until ln -s /var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:0 /var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:1 ;do sleep 1 ;done    <<<<< that would semistud235404:35
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intelikeyand one should single quote those file names04:36
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intelikeysemistud2354   until ln -s '/var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:0' '/var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:1' ;do sleep 1 ;done04:36
semistud2354whats the single quote do04:37
intelikeyshould work without the quotes but special chars like - and  :  can react irraticlly with different commands .04:37
intelikeysemistud2354 protect the file name from interpretation04:38
semistud2354if i didnt have that...would it still work04:38
semistud2354or would that totally mess up the operation04:38
intelikeysee next to last post ^04:39
semistud2354o...lol...my ba04:39
semistud2354bad04:39
semistud2354ok..here goes im going to reastart04:39
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ircusrhi leilelfag!04:39
intelikeyircusr do you truely believe you have just cause to attack that nickname ?04:40
ircusrhe attacked first04:41
intelikeyis that just cause ?04:41
ircusryes04:41
intelikeywouldn't it be easier, smarter, and much more family friendly to just ignore the user ?04:42
ircusrnope04:42
ircusr:D04:42
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ritztechanyone get emerald to work right with beryl Eeeeek04:42
netdaemonis there a way to run ubiquity without it insisting on fetching the package lists?04:42
intelikeythen maybe my best action here would be to bring that to the attention of the ops rather than argue with you ircusr04:42
ircusrno need04:43
ircusrim on my way out04:43
ircusrbye04:43
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semistud2354SUCCESS!!!!04:43
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semistud2354thank you guys....04:44
semistud2354i love you guys04:44
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intelikeysemistud2354 what did you expect ?04:44
intelikeyheh.04:44
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NickPrestaCompiz Fusion still isn't good enough for me. Although it's settings manager is sweet...04:44
intelikeythat's my one smart elic remark for the day...  :)04:44
BluesKajoh feel the luuuv ..  ;)04:44
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intelikeynetdaemon not that i know of.  but that doesn't preclude the possability04:45
herowhere would a thumb drive be mounted? kde asked me if i wanted to open it and i said yes, but no window ever came up04:45
intelikeyhero /media/ something04:46
NickPrestasomewhere in /media04:46
herohm04:46
semistud2354i have a question....i have a probem with my friends computer......his windows just suddenly freezez....for the logest time ive been trying to switch him to linux...04:46
heroonly cdrom0 is there04:46
zibrah3ed.. /media/disk most likely04:46
semistud2354does linux have a registry...that messes up04:46
zibrah3edno04:46
semistud2354questions like this...i have trouble ansering04:46
netdaemoni'm looking at the options right now, don't see anything...04:46
intelikeyhero or /media/sd?04:46
heroonly cdrom0 is in /media :(04:46
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intelikeysemistud2354 registry ?   what's that ?04:47
BluesKajhero,system menu/staorge media04:47
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BluesKajer storage media04:47
semistud2354im not to sure myself...he has like...this registry cleaner04:47
semistud2354computer optimizer04:47
hitmanWillysemistud2354: nix config options are usually kept in individual text files04:47
Macrosofthero04:47
heroBluesKaj: again, only cdrom0 is there04:47
semistud2354all this bull software04:47
BluesKajgawd, that's just spyware semistud235404:48
heroMacrosoft04:48
Macrosofthero: you could check /mnt/04:48
semistud2354do linux computers suddenly with out notice freez04:48
heronothing04:48
TeraDynehero, is there an icon of a usb stick on your desktop?04:48
semistud2354thats what his windows comp is doing04:48
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TeraDynehero: If not, it's not mounted.04:48
Macrosofttry computer://04:48
herosemistud2354: no04:48
semistud2354like starts...runs 2 or 3 programs...small ones..it freezes suddenly04:48
intelikeysemistud2354 if they freeze it's usually without notice.  but a stable system running stable apps doesn't normally do that.04:48
heroTeraDyne: ok.04:48
varaonaidhi, i'm trying to gain write access to a shared partition (ext3 format) and i can't seem to figure it out04:49
hitmanWillysemistud2354: VERY^100 rarely04:49
TeraDynehero: remove it and reinsert it.04:49
Macrosoftvaraonaid: use chmod04:49
intelikeythis box has never froze with dapper drake.04:49
semistud2354what can i tell him...04:49
heroTeraDyne: yeah, i did that but nothing happened04:49
semistud2354to persuade him04:50
semistud2354to switch to linux04:50
hitmanWillyive used nix for over 15 years now and have had that happen twice04:50
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TeraDynehero: that's odd. that's very odd.04:50
Macrosofthero: is there an activity light on your flash drive?04:50
heroTeraDyne: yes.04:50
dr_willisvaraonaid,  you want a single user to have full access to a ext3 partition?04:50
intelikey!virus | semistud235404:50
ubotusemistud2354: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2104:50
heroMacrosoft: yes. it lights up when i insert it04:50
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dr_willisvaraonaid,  like for extra 'data' storage?04:50
varaonaiddr_willis: yes, exactly04:50
Macrosofthero: is it flashing?04:50
hitmanWillyboth times after monkeying around with important kernel level configs04:50
intelikeysemistud2354 maybe point him to the link  ^04:50
semistud2354why is it harder to hack04:51
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heroMacrosoft: no, steady light. incidentally, amarok had a popup come up04:51
dr_willisvaraonaid,  what i DO is this.. I make a directory On that partition, i chown it to be owned by the user.  he can write fully to THAT dir.. ( and fill up the drive if he wants to)04:51
semistud2354why are viruses rair04:51
semistud2354rare04:51
hitmanWillysemistud2354: see the above link04:51
herosemistud2354: read the article04:51
dr_willisvaraonaid,  and then i normally make a link from that mountedfilesystem/Username TO his /home/username/Storage dir.04:51
semistud2354kkk04:51
dr_willisvaraonaid,  he dosent need full access to the 'root' of the filesystem.04:51
Macrosofthero: it may not be mounted, so it may be safe to unplug it and then plug it in again04:51
heroMacrosoft: yes, i've done that numerous times04:52
intelikey!security | semistud235404:52
ubotusemistud2354: If you feel the need to adopt security measures for your system, check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security - See also !root, !firewall and !server04:52
netdaemonhow would i go about updating the local ubiquity?04:52
varaonaiddr_willis: so the user has full access to that dir but the technically the whole drive?04:52
dr_willisvaraonaid,  yep..04:52
semistud2354not me...my buddy04:52
dr_willisvaraonaid,  i got 5+ drives set up that way. :)04:52
varaonaiddr_willis: cool, very ingenious!!  thanks a bunch :)04:52
Macrosofthero: is it the only flash drive plugged to you comp right now?04:52
heroyes04:52
intelikeynetdaemon sudo apt-get install ubiquity   ?04:53
heroand the package had a penguin on it04:53
dr_willisvaraonaid,   you could move his whole home dir to that drive if ya wanted to.04:53
netdaemoneh...04:53
netdaemoni'll try i suppose04:53
dr_willisvaraonaid,  or mount the drive as /home :)04:53
Macrosofthero: then try this as root: mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda104:53
semistud2354so somehow...in order for a virus to be a threat04:53
varaonaiddr_willis: awesome!  i love having those different options04:53
zibrah3edwon't work you need to specify the filesystem04:53
semistud2354it had to know your password???04:53
intelikeysemistud2354 go read those links ubotu gave you.  i'm sure several thing will be apearant that you can use.04:53
semistud2354am i reading it correctly04:53
varaonaiddr_willis: again, many thanks!!! :D04:53
heromount point does not exist. so i have to create that directory? sda1?04:53
dr_willisvaraonaid,  get hardkore and have /home on a different machine. :) is a neat trick.04:53
Macrosofthero: yes, the folder has to exist first, i forgot about that04:54
zibrah3edhero: yes sudo mkdir /media/sda104:54
varaonaiddr_willis: woooww!  very cool capability!04:54
herook, but sda1 is my hard drive, which is already mounted heh04:55
Macrosoftthen try sdb104:56
herok04:56
Macrosoftunless thats your cdrom04:56
hitmanWillysemistud2354: for a virus to effectively work in nix, it needs root or higher level access, which is rather uncommon for user installed apps, plus to propogate itself, it would need root access on every linux machine it comes in contact with, which makes it very hard for transmission04:56
intelikeyecho 'alias mkdir="/bin/mkdir -p" >> ~.bash_bashrc04:56
intelikeyooops04:56
heroalright04:56
intelikeyecho 'alias mkdir="/bin/mkdir -p"' >> ~.bash_bashrc04:56
intelikeythere.04:56
heroi had a feeling i'd have to mount it manually04:56
hero!automount04:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about automount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:56
herohm04:56
BluesKajMacrosoft, hero, the drive should show up automatically ...there' gotta be something else wrong04:56
TeraDyne!mount04:56
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter04:56
semistud2354so it would need the user name and password of every linux machine04:56
heroBluesKaj: such as?04:56
TeraDyneNot what I expected...04:56
Macrosoftwe know, thats why hes doing it manually04:57
semistud2354and...on top of that spread fast enough so that no one can make a patch04:57
semistud2354am i right04:57
hitmanWillysemistud2354: or for a buffer overflow type attack, the exploited app would need to be running in root, so same deal04:57
semistud2354??04:57
herothe drive has a knoppix distro on it04:57
herobut i don't see why that would prevent automounting04:57
intelikeyTeraDyne i concure, that infonode doesn't belong there04:57
hitmanWillysemistud2354: at least to do any real damage to the system04:57
Macrosofthero: it shouldnt04:57
heroyeah04:57
herostrange04:57
Macrosoftany luck mounting it yet04:57
heroyeah, it's mounted, i can see data and all that04:57
Macrosoftgood04:57
herojust to get it to mount/umount automatically04:57
Macrosoftyou using kde?04:58
hero!flash drive04:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about flash drive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:58
heroyep04:58
herokde 3.5.604:58
BluesKaj!USB04:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:58
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Macrosoftoh, i only know how to set startup commands for GNOME startup04:58
heroyes, the bot is worthless at times :D04:58
heroMacrosoft: uh, in case you didn't notice, this is #kubuntu :P04:59
BluesKaj!key04:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about key - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:59
BluesKajgawd04:59
TeraDyne!brain04:59
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots04:59
hero!thumb04:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about thumb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:59
Macrosofti know, i use both04:59
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herook, just teasin04:59
heromaybe just not having the mount point made a diff?04:59
heroi'm going to umount and try again04:59
Macrosoftalthough im starting to prefer GNOME04:59
NickPrestagnome is evil ;)05:00
Stratyscan anyone help me adjust my main volume in kubuntu?05:00
dr_willisI perfer kde. :)05:00
semistud2354well...thanx guys....you guys kick ass05:00
hitmanWillyStratys: try kmix05:00
TeraDyneNickPresta: No, it just thinks it's users are stupid.05:00
Stratyslol05:00
heropeople shouldn't read that stupid torvalds article05:00
Stratysi feel like an idiot05:00
hero"whatever linus does i'm going to do!"05:00
Stratyshitmanwilly thank you05:00
Macrosoftyes, it strangely mac OS-ish05:00
intelikeylinus who ?05:00
hitmanWillyStratys: np :)05:01
herointelikey: heh.05:01
heroalright, so i have to mount the usb drive manually05:01
Macrosoftyep05:01
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intelikeystalman who ?05:01
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herothat sucks05:01
dr_willisMatchBox05:01
Macrosofti think there's a init.d folder you can add a script to, to mount it for you05:02
TeraDyneFluxbox05:02
hitmanWillyand, yes, intelikey, i know your strategy as well :)05:02
heroMacrosoft: well, that's beyond my skill.05:02
dr_willisAmigaWM!05:02
dr_willis:)05:02
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hitmanWillyaltho i do use a lot of QT apps05:02
Macrosoftbe back05:02
hitmanWillyintelikey: i was talking about your almost nonexistant use of X in general05:03
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intelikeyoh that.  that's not strategy, that's just common sense...  :)05:03
hitmanWillystrategy may have been the wrong word, tho05:03
intelikeyhitmanWilly :)05:03
intelikeyhero fstab ?05:04
TeraDyneirssi + ogg123 + vim = OS05:04
herowhat about it?05:04
herojust put that mount info in?05:04
intelikeyok.05:04
heropray it's automatic?05:04
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hitmanWillyi'm kind of gui agnostic, if an app i like is gui or not, i'll use what works for me05:05
intelikeyhero it is automatic05:05
intelikeythat's what fstab is for.05:05
herointelikey: alright05:05
intelikeyfstab=file system table05:05
TeraDynehitmanWilly: I use whatever doesn't crash my laptop.05:05
hitmanWillylol05:05
heroyeah but isn't fstab read on boot-up?05:05
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intelikeyyes and anytime a mount command is issued05:05
dr_willisone of the init scripts does a mount -a I belive.. :)05:05
heroso i still have to mount it manually, even after putting the info into fstab?05:06
fitoria_hey i have a problem with a hp deskjet 656c printer05:06
fitoria_the configuration tool says it is an apollo05:06
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fitoria_i tried to change the ulr05:06
fitoria_but it didnt work05:06
intelikeyhero example.    /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom auto noauto,user,users 0 0   <<<  then you only need issue   mount /media/cdrom      and it mounts.05:06
__ChrisAll - I can get on here... But my Firefox doesn't work.  Can't find any URLs.  It did work great.  Tonight, when I powered up the machine, and started it, and launched Firefox, it said it was validating my plugins.  But it seemed to get stuck after several minutes, so I clicked cancel.  Is that why it quit working?05:06
hitmanWillyhero: you can set it up that way with noauto, but if kde detects any device listed in fstab, it'll try to mount it, or at least ask what to do05:07
dr_willis__Chris,  try making a new user. see if it affects them also..05:07
dr_willis__Chris,  could try a different browser also. Like Opera, or konqueror05:07
herohitmanWilly: ok, good05:07
heroso don't use noauto05:07
fitoria_hp:/usb/hpDeskjet_656C_hpijs?serial=THSBCLTW8805:07
__ChrisKonqueror works, but the java doesn't work on the page I want to go to, and firefox did.05:07
fitoria_hp:/usb/APOLLO_P2500_2600?serial=THSBCLTW8805:08
hitmanWillyhero: actually, yes, for a removeable drive05:08
__ChrisDoes Opera support Java?05:08
fitoria_yeah05:08
herohitmanWilly: so what intelikey said should work fine then and kde will recognize the drive upon connection?05:08
hitmanWillyhero: it should05:08
intelikeyhero also one might be well advised to use the blkid for the device05:08
heroblkid?05:08
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Ahmuckhi, after installing apache2 i am unable to access port 110 localhost.  how do i re-enable it?05:09
intelikeyblkid=block ident...      the id the fs has on it's first block.05:09
heroinstead of /dev/hdb1?05:09
herosorry, i got confused05:09
intelikeyhero yes and there is a command that will display that,   named  ahhh ahhh   "blkid"05:09
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herook, so i would put that id where /dev/hdb1 would be, correct?05:10
intelikeyyes05:10
heroi got it right05:10
heroit's hdb105:10
herowhat's the best fs to have on the drive itself? right now it's msdos05:10
heroi want to be able to use it on windows machines too05:11
heroer, it's vfat05:11
intelikeyprobably vfat if you want it portable.05:11
herok05:11
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intelikeyi.e. if you expect M$ to access it.05:11
heroso here's the fstab line:  /dev/sdb1/media/sdb1auto noauto,user,users 0 005:11
heroer, it omitted the tabs05:11
herobut you get it, right?05:11
intelikeyright05:12
herok05:12
intelikeybut the block id05:12
herothe UUID?05:12
TuxOtakuhey, I'm currently using GNOME but trying to install KDE via the kubuntu-desktop metapackage.....apt keeps giving me dependency errors when I go to install it though05:12
hero./dev/sdb1: SEC_TYPE="msdos" UUID="6488-592C" TYPE="vfat"05:12
intelikey /dev/hdc2: UUID="9c8d7a43-dee1-41db-8ef5-96f672cbb020" TYPE="ext2"  <<<< something like that   so >>>  UUID="9c8d7a43-dee1-41db-8ef5-96f672cbb020" /media/sdb1     auto noauto,user,users 0 0  <<<<<05:12
TuxOtakui'm running feisty, btw05:12
intelikeyexample ^05:12
herook, so that goes on the line05:12
intelikeyyes05:13
intelikeyhero note it replaced the /dev/sdb205:13
heroyou have a colon after /dev/hdc2?05:13
TeraDyneTuxOtaku: try "sudo apt-get install -f"05:13
intelikeyor 1 or what ever05:13
heroah05:13
heroUUID is the first part of the line05:13
intelikeyhero only what's between >>  <<05:13
TuxOtakuTeraDyne, been there, done that....doesn't do jack.05:13
xtr3meTuxOtaku:  what error?05:14
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intelikeyand use your own blkid  not mine  :)05:14
ritztechis there a way to remote into the gui from a windows box05:14
TeraDyneTuxOtaku: Hmm...05:14
TuxOtakuxtr3me, this: (pardon the paste)05:14
TuxOtakuThe following packages have unmet dependencies:05:14
TuxOtaku  kubuntu-desktop: Depends: kdm but it is not going to be installed05:14
TuxOtaku                   Depends: kmplayer-konq-plugins but it is not going to be installed05:14
TuxOtaku                   Depends: konq-plugins but it is not going to be installed05:14
TuxOtaku                   Depends: kubuntu-default-settings but it is not going to be installed05:14
Biovoreritztech: vnc or rdp (if you have it setup)05:14
TuxOtaku                   Recommends: konqueror but it is not going to be installed05:14
TuxOtaku                   Recommends: kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts but it is not going to be installed05:14
TuxOtakuE: Broken packages05:14
intelikeywow nice flood05:14
TeraDyne!pastebin05:14
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:14
ritztechrdp05:14
TuxOtakuyeah, sorry.05:14
herodang.05:15
ritztechlike a simple rdp ... windows - windows ...05:15
TuxOtakui try installing those conflicting packages one at a time, and i get an error saying the wrong version will be installed05:16
Biovoreritztech: yup..  You have to enable desktop sharing in kde first though..05:17
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ritztechin other words remote into my linux from my office which only has win boxes05:17
TuxOtakui figured maybe it was my sources.list....so I swapped it out with the default one....still, no dice.05:17
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ritztechcould i be able to use the traditional rdp provided with windows (mstsc)05:17
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betohello05:18
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betocan someone help me with beryl05:19
Biovoreritztech: I think so.. I havn't messed with it much though..05:19
intelikeyTuxOtaku dpkg -l | grep kde      and don't flood should it output lots just say that.05:19
SonomaAwaybeto: #beryl is the best place to help with beryl05:19
betoit disappears the task bar05:19
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intelikey!beryl | beto05:19
betoty05:20
ubotubeto: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects05:20
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intelikeyi smell horse biscuts05:22
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herogot it figured out guys, thanks for the help05:24
heroand thanks for not telling me to man mount :D05:24
intelikeyoh that's   man fstab05:24
intelikey:)05:24
heroheh05:24
jhutchins_ltintelikey: Actually, the buscuits I give my horses smell pretty wonderful.05:24
iqagritztech:  http://tinyurl.com/255ou805:24
heroalthough it mounted it at /media/disk instead of /media hdb105:24
jhutchins_ltintelikey: The ones the horses make smell great if you dry them and burn them - just like an herbal inscence.05:25
intelikeyjhutchins_lt the ones i smell ar the ones they give back to the field...05:25
heroso does that mean i can delete /media/hdb1?05:25
iqagIs there a way to make the embedded terminal in Konqueror exit cleanly when toggling it off with the toolbar button - i.e. so that shell history is preserved?05:25
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intelikeyhero you can test by commenting it out   # < this is now a comment.05:26
intelikey# this is another comment.05:26
intelikey# and this one.05:26
intelikey:)05:26
heroyeah, i know what comments are, but in fstab?05:26
intelikeyyes05:26
heroso comment out the whole line i just put in?05:26
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heroheh, that seems odd05:26
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__Chrisdr_willis - tried the new user, no luck.05:27
intelikeyyeah if you wan't to test it.   i'm guessing that something in kde timmed out...     but i don't mess with kde ya know.05:27
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hero*nod*05:27
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herosince it mounted it automatically, i still need to umount it manually, though05:28
intelikeyhero right click it's icon ?05:28
jhutchins_lt; sometimes05:28
heroyeah. just found it heh05:28
jhutchins_lt; these are comments05:28
jhutchins_lt/ so are these in some files.05:28
jhutchins_lter,05:28
jhutchins_lt// these05:28
__Chrisdr_willis - I noticed that my gaim can't connect either...05:28
intelikeyjhutchins_lt and don't forget :05:28
jhutchins_ltOf course <!--05:29
intelikeybut in fstab  # would be propper05:29
intelikey3 am already where does the night go ???05:30
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jhutchins_lt22:30 here.05:30
jhutchins_ltWTF are you, iceland?05:30
intelikeyand where did the last 40 years go   ?05:30
intelikey</blinks>05:30
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jhutchins_ltYeah, well, there's that.05:31
jhutchins_ltYou're GMT then.05:31
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jhutchins_ltIt's 3:30 in that case.05:31
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jhutchins_ltBDT.05:31
intelikeyso is W in that Q kinda like  $[W,?]  ?05:32
intelikey{}05:33
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jhutchins_lt/;05:35
dr_willisSmurfSlayer,  you want somthing?05:35
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dr_willismost people have dcc chating on auto-ignore.05:36
SmurfSlayerdr_willis - Sorry05:36
dr_willis:)05:36
intelikeymost ?05:36
dr_williswell theres the kick-bots. :)05:36
SmurfSlayerI tried the new user, and it doesn't work.  Also, I noticed that gaim can't connect either?05:36
dr_willisSmurfSlayer,  sounds like youve shown its not just browser setting then.05:37
SmurfSlayerAny idea on what to try next?05:37
dr_willistry a simple 'ping google.com' from the terminal05:37
SmurfSlayerI've looked at the network settings, and the IP and gateway all look good.05:37
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dr_willisping google.com05:37
dr_willisPING google.com (72.14.207.99) 56(84) bytes of data.05:37
SmurfSlayerYes, that works.05:37
dr_willisthen try a ping 72.14.207.9905:37
dr_williswait a sec.. it saw google.com ?05:38
ritztechhow would you do a rdp sharing in kub05:38
ritztechkde05:38
dr_willisNow thats getting weird....05:38
SmurfSlayerDr_willis - yet it works... ttl-224, time is around 75ms05:38
dr_willisthe google.com ping and the ip# ping works?05:38
dr_willistry putting google.com in your browser address then?05:38
dr_willishttp://google.com05:38
SmurfSlayerThe IP based ping works too.05:39
jhutchins_ltritztech: krdp - which is a really stupid idea.05:39
SmurfSlayerThat doesn't work.05:39
ritztech? y05:39
ritztechis it slow05:39
SmurfSlayerIt works in Konq. but not in FireFox.05:39
ritztechim at work want to be able to remote in05:40
intelikeywell i'm out in 20 minutes, guess i better start shutting down.  later fellas05:40
SmurfSlayer64 bytes from 72.14.207.99: icmp_seq=3 ttl=244 time=90.3 ms05:40
jhutchins_ltritztech: ssh05:40
SmurfSlayerWhat else besides firefox has good Java support?05:41
ritztechhaha05:41
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hitmanWillySmurfSlayer: konq seems to work pretty well with it05:42
SmurfSlayerThe url I want to use, doesn't work right.  :-(05:42
hitmanWillySmurfSlayer: is it enabled?05:42
SmurfSlayerYes05:43
dr_willisSmurfSlayer,  google.com works in Konqueror. but not firefox?05:43
SmurfSlayerYes05:43
dr_willisAll righty...05:43
dr_willisas a test .. close firefox.05:43
SmurfSlayerYes to both Hitman willy and dr_willis05:43
heroritztech: try vnc. or nxserver.05:43
SmurfSlayerClosed05:43
dr_willisMOVE the .mozilla directory  to somthing like .mozilla.old05:44
dr_willisand restart firefox05:44
SmurfSlayerdr_willis - where is it?05:44
dr_willisusers home dir. :)05:44
dr_willismv .mozilla .mozilla_old05:44
dr_willisor similer.05:44
SmurfSlayerAll that is in my users home directory is some Ruby stuff I put there...05:45
SmurfSlayerUnless it is hidden?05:45
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SmurfSlayerOkay.. .found it, changed it to .mozilla_old05:46
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dr_willis.whatever  is a hidden dir. :)05:46
SmurfSlayerOkay, it is changed.05:46
dr_willisif this dont fix it.. not sure what to try next.05:46
iZenwhats up peeps05:46
dr_willisnow run firefox from the terminal, see if ya get any error/info messages05:46
SmurfSlayerI just opened it through the windows menu, and it works!05:47
dr_willisif all else fails try  in konqueror --->   http://www.opera.com/download/get.pl?id=29341&location=201&nothanks=yes&sub=marine05:47
SmurfSlayerYou are my hero!  :-)05:47
dr_willis:) and install opers05:47
dr_willisSmurfSlayer,  now what is NOT making sence..is that the new user you made.. should of worked05:47
iZenI have a question for someone out there.... How do I install themes in Kubuntu? I have downloaded some from KDE-look.org and they are zipped. What is the process from there?05:47
dr_willisSmurfSlayer,  unless some how the new user got some messed up firefox settings05:47
SmurfSlayerThat could be.  I got in to google right away.  But the site I want to get to doesn't seem to be working... ack!05:48
dr_williswhat site?05:49
dr_willisand it better not have 'goat' in the address. :)05:49
iZenlol05:49
iZenafrogoathookers.com05:50
iZenso anyways.... anyone know how to install themes?05:50
dr_willisthemes for what.05:50
iZenfor the interface05:51
dr_willisKDe's got a rather complex 'theming' setup05:51
iZenyeah I could tell05:51
dr_willisa 'theme' is a set of 'parts' the icon theme, the window decoration, the widget set....05:51
dr_willisa theme file itself is just directions  as to what parts to use05:51
dr_willis:)05:51
iZeni got some decorations I believe05:51
dr_willisnormally they got to be compiled/installed.05:51
SmurfSlayerDr_willis it is working now!  Thank you VERY VERY Much!05:51
heroheh, i'm beginning to regret this nick05:51
dr_willisThere are a great many themes/extras in the repos not installed by default05:51
iZendo i just put them into the same directories as the other buttons and stuff or can it be packaged05:51
dr_willisiZen,  window decorations are normally COMPILED like any other program.05:52
TuxOtakuhow do i force packages to install with apt?05:52
dr_willis!apt05:52
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)05:52
iZenok05:52
dr_willisTuxOtaku,  --force (i think)05:52
iZenif they are zipped?05:52
iZenextract the folder and then run what code in terminal?05:52
herothe *only* thing i don't like about konqueror is that i can't right-click in the address window and copy link. i have to select all, copy05:52
SmurfSlayerDr_willis it is working now!  Thank you VERY VERY Much!05:53
dr_willisyou want it to 'auto select all' ?05:53
dr_willisSmurfSlayer,  :)05:53
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herowhy not?05:53
dr_willishero,  i HATE how windows DOES that. :)05:53
dr_willisi rarely if ever want to select it all. i want to select the typo i did05:53
herowell, it works in firefox05:53
dr_willis:)05:53
dr_willisits changeable in firefox. :)05:53
herojust a small feature request, i guess05:53
dr_willisvista does it worse  heh.05:54
iZeni hate alot about windows thats why im trying to get this down. to bad my 3d programs are hard to install05:54
Macrosofthero: any luck getting that to automount?05:54
herojust to right-click and "copy link location" would be sweet, in konqueror05:54
dr_willisclick 3 times fast to select the word.. :)05:54
heroMacrosoft: we are in business. see above for thanks and praise.05:54
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herowhat's the K app for burning cds?05:58
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dr_willisk3b05:58
iZenDr., do you have any links to a website for compiling themes?05:59
herothanks05:59
iZenI have not found any good ones through google yet05:59
dr_willisiZen,  not really. kde-look.org may hae some docs..05:59
dr_willisthere used to be one from the bot05:59
dr_willis!kdetheme05:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kdetheme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:59
dr_willis!themes05:59
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy05:59
dr_willisthere we go05:59
dr_willis./configure && make && make isntall05:59
dr_willisis the normal 3 step05:59
dr_willishowever - you may need to add some options to the ./configure part.06:00
iZeni cannot get .configure to do it06:00
dr_willisand of course you willneed to install build-essential and a lot of stuff06:00
iZenoh ok06:00
iZenthats why then06:00
dr_willisto actually be able to compile things.06:00
dr_willisthats proberly 100+mb of downloads there.06:00
dr_willis:)06:00
iZenive tried to do the configure command but it doesnt work06:00
iZenany place that will tell me what files i need to compile?06:01
iZeni know i can just check them off in Synaptic06:01
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dr_willis!be06:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about be - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:01
dr_willis!build-essential06:01
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)06:01
dr_willisbuild-essential  is the core one06:02
dr_willisthen a bunch of kde developer files. :)06:02
dr_willisI just do shotgun installs of anything with dev in the name. till it works06:02
iZenk ty06:02
heroso apparently, k3b doesn't rip mp3 to wav.06:02
herohow useless is that?06:02
hero:P06:02
iZenwhy would u want wav06:03
dr_willisit can with the right packages installed06:03
dr_willisbut mp3 to wav - wouldent be k3b's task anyway06:03
dr_williscd to mp3 - i hear it can do.06:03
heroif it makes audio cds, it should be able to rip06:03
herousing 2 programs for that is unnecessary06:04
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iZensome programs do it better then others though.06:04
dr_willisk3b CAN rip cd's to mp3's06:04
dr_willisif you have the right packages  installed06:04
fyrmedicare the breezy repositories still active?06:04
herodr_willis: i have libmad0 and libmad0-dev installed06:05
dr_willisYou asked about ripping mp3 to wav.. thats not ripping. :)06:05
dr_willis!find k3b06:05
ubotuFound: k3b, k3b-i18n, libk3b-dev, libk3b2, libk3b2-mp306:05
herooh, what is it then?06:05
heroah, thank you06:05
K-Ryan!k3b06:05
ubotuk3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto06:05
iZenare there any hotkeys for a terminal window06:05
dr_willisthat wouldbe converting mp3 to a wav. :)06:05
dr_willisreencoding it.06:05
dr_willisdo you 'rip' gif to jpg?06:05
dr_willis:)06:05
herodunno06:05
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heroso wav-->mp3=rip?06:06
heroyou sure about that?06:06
dr_willisNo.. putting a CDrom in the drive  and converting the tracks to mp3 is 'ripping' the cd to mp306:06
dr_willisor ripping it to wav's :)06:06
dr_willisor to flac.. (whats what iuse)06:07
dr_willisthen i convert the flac to mp306:07
dr_willisrip = 'getting the data from the disk to the pc' :) i guess...06:07
heroso is flac better than ogg?06:07
hitmanWillyhero: no compression on flac06:07
dr_willisits larger. and not lossy i think06:08
dr_willisor is it lossy? i forget06:08
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hitmanWillylossless06:08
SmurfSlayerdr_willis - Firefox can't seem to find it's "home" for pluggins... The scanner just keeps scanning acroos the screen...06:08
dr_willisSmurfSlayer,  odd...06:08
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dr_willisi always found the term 'lossless' odd.. :)06:09
iqaghero: flac is ogg06:09
hitmanWillyvorbis (the audio format of .ogg files) is a lossy format, but seems (at least to me) to have a higher quality than mp3 at similar bitrates06:09
dr_willisflac is a lossless ogg format then?06:09
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hitmanWillyogg is just the container, like avi06:09
iqagogg includes flac (lossless), vorbis (lossy), theora (video), speex (speech)06:10
iZenDr, kde-devel in synaptic will get you the basics and so will sudo apt-get install build-essential06:10
iZenjust so yah know if you wanted to know...06:10
dr_willisI normally keep a script from my other installs that bulk-install  the stuff :)06:11
dr_willisI gotta work on that apt-caching server someday06:11
dr_willissave me some time06:11
SmurfSlayerdr_willis - It appears to be the pluggin installer that is the problem.  Now nothing works again...06:12
heroso there is no .flac06:12
heroonly .ogg06:12
dr_willisSmurfSlayer,  you tried to install some plugins?06:13
SmurfSlayerDr_willis - yes, I go to the page I want to be at.  It says I need a pluggin, so click on install pluggin.  And then the "scanner bar" just scrolls across that new window forever, nothing ever happens.06:14
fyrmedicWhere can I find a list of packages in the server version of ubuntu?06:14
pyrotix_making an html document in quanta: table is being rendered at the middle of a page as opposed to the top. How do I move it to the top, or what channel would I go to have a better chance of getting an answer?06:14
dr_willisSmurfSlayer,  DONT let the browser install plugins that way.06:15
iZendoes Kubuntu recognize touchpads in the mouse options because the trackpad click is being really touchy and id like to turn it off.06:15
dr_willisinstall the stuff system wide, with the repository/package manager06:15
dr_willisiZen,  is it a synaptic touchpad?06:15
dr_willis!info ksynaptic06:15
ubotuPackage ksynaptic does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas06:15
dr_willisHmm  how do ya spell that06:15
iZenits a Sony Vaio Laptop06:16
dr_willis!find synap06:16
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ubotuFound: synaptic, xserver-xorg-input-synaptics, gsynaptics, ksynaptics, libsynaptics-dev (and 3 others)06:16
dr_willisiZen,  yes.. but theres differnet brans/kinds of touchpads. :)06:16
SmurfSlayerdr_willis - how do I do that?06:16
dr_willis!info ksynaptics06:16
ubotuksynaptics: Synaptics TouchPad configuration tool for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 209 kB, installed size 1012 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc sparc)06:16
iZenI have no clue... I wish I built it but I didnt06:16
dr_willisSmurfSlayer,  depends on the plugin06:16
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dr_willisiZen,  could install ksynaptics and let it do some tweaking/settings.06:17
dr_willismost laptops ive see are synaptic brand touchpads06:17
iZencool ty for the info again06:17
SmurfSlayerdr_willis - Java.06:18
dr_willisSmurfSlayer,  you definiatly DONT want to let the browser install that06:18
dr_willis!java06:18
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.06:18
dr_willisinstall    sun-java6-jre06:18
dr_willis:)06:18
dr_willis!flash06:19
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash06:19
dr_williswhat else is there.. java and flash - thats about it06:19
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Darkkish_Boxwhere is the kate executable located?06:20
hitmanWillyDarkkish_Box: probably either /usr/bin/ or /usr/local/bin06:21
Darkkish_Boxthanks06:22
Art_Anyone have experience with Ubuntu-Ultimate?06:24
hitmanWillyArt_: what's the problem?06:26
hitmanWillyArt_: its just edgy with some extra software, right?06:27
hitmanWillyok.....06:27
SmurfSlayerMy adpet died... how do I kill it, I can't start a new one.06:28
hitmanWilly!adeptfix06:28
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 06:28
hitmanWillySmurfSlayer: it probably won't start due to dpkg being locked06:30
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SmurfSlayerYeah, I did the install for the sun java, and it says it has not route to host for a whole bunch of them...06:31
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hitmanWillySmurfSlayer: try with apt-get in konsole06:31
dr_willissome servers are down it seems lately06:31
SmurfSlayerThat is what I did hitmanwilly, from the konsole...06:31
hitmanWillySmurfSlayer: ok, servers are just probably down06:32
SmurfSlayerAnd the actual adept manager has beening waiting a long time for "headers"... so I'm thinking something is dead somewhere...06:32
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SmurfSlayerAnd I wonder if that is what is causing Firefox to not be able to find its pluggins.06:33
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SmurfSlayerAnd then after awhile it just crashes...06:34
khaije1bbwhat's the chan for compiz/beryl stuff?06:34
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K-Ryan#ubuntu-effects06:35
SmurfSlayerHitmanwilly?06:36
SmurfSlayerdr_willis?06:36
hitmanWillySmurfSlayer: you rang?06:37
SmurfSlayerLooks like the lag is getting bad...  I thought I lost everyone there for a minute!06:37
hitmanWillySmurfSlayer: nah, i just stepped afk for a minute06:38
SmurfSlayerOh!  okay...06:38
SmurfSlayerWell, I will keep all the information that you and Dr Willis gave me for the flash and Java, and try it again at a later time when maybe the servers will be up.06:38
SmurfSlayerThanks for the help guys!06:38
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hitmanWillySmurfSlayer: yeah, probably a good idea06:39
dr_willisSmurfSlayer,  thers a lot of dead/slow servers right now.. not sure whats going on.06:39
dr_willistoo many kids downloading the spiderman movie perhaps06:39
hitmanWillymassive updating/maintainance maybe?06:39
dr_willisjust saw a few updates today06:40
dr_willisnot many lately06:40
hitmanWillydr_willis: maybe an apache update?06:40
dr_willisNot sure. :)06:40
hitmanWillythat'd do it, probably06:40
dr_willisive learned to have patience06:40
dr_willisIP 0.0.0.0 is blacklisted. Connection denied.06:40
hitmanWillywell, the gentoo servers are running pretty good, at least :P06:40
dr_willisHmm.. now how is ip 0.0.0.0.0 trying to get a torrent06:41
dr_willis:)06:41
hitmanWillylol06:41
dr_willisoh wait 0.0.0.006:41
dr_willis:)06:41
hitmanWillyyeah, got that, not completely network illiterate :P06:41
dr_willis"want a fast quake server? try 'server 127.0.0.1'06:42
hitmanWillyrofl06:42
dr_willis"wow thats a low ping server! but its always empty!"06:42
dr_willis:)06:42
dr_willisthe good old days!06:42
khaije1bbor ::106:42
dr_willisthis was way befor ipv6 :)06:42
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dr_williswell night all.06:43
dr_willisexit06:43
dr_willisit is late at night.. somewhere..06:43
dr_willisHERE even! :)06:43
khaije1bbsorry I was looking back on the recent future again!06:43
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Macrosoftis there an estimate for when KDE4 will be released06:49
hitmanWillymid october06:49
hitmanWillyIIRC06:49
Macrosoftok06:49
phoenixzHi there, I just installed kubuntu and I want to use apache, which I also installed but.. where is the base directory?! Where can I place a site??06:50
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hitmanWillyphoenixz: i thinks its /var/www/ iirc06:51
hitmanWillyphoenixz: or /etc/www/ or something like that06:51
phoenixzhitmanWilly, well, directly in /var/www? not /var/www/html ?06:51
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phoenixzhitmanWilly, There is /var/www yeah06:51
hitmanWillyphoenixz: not really sure, never really played with it myself :P06:52
K-Ryan!xorg06:52
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:52
hitmanWillyphoenixz: try googling for apache tutorials06:52
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K-RyanWhere is xorg.conf?06:54
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: /etc/X1106:54
K-Ryan /etc/X11/xorg.conf right?06:54
K-RyanYeah, thought so06:54
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K-RyanWow that was a massive07:01
K-RyanI don't remember what07:01
K-Ryan!netsplit07:01
ubotunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit07:01
K-RyanYeah! Netsplit!07:01
K-RyanA massive netsplit!07:01
ubuntu_hi guys I have the next problem installing kubuntu feisty : the installation reaches the 87 % but after that it suddently crashes and it doesnt give any error message..... It just closes......07:02
ubuntu_I choose manual partition and when I click finish it says:07:02
ubuntu_cluster size is 2k, expected size is 1k07:02
ubuntu_windows may not like it07:03
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ubuntu_i dont know if that's causing the error....07:03
ubuntu_so...when the installer crashes if I reboot the computer07:03
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ubuntu_the grub is in form of a shell instead of giving me a list of bootable systems07:04
KprofthreatUh...oh07:04
hitmanWillyubuntu_: yeah, that means grub didn't install all the way07:04
ubuntu_but if I check the disk....the system is installed.....07:04
SmurfSlayerIt appears the netsplit continues...07:04
ubuntu_so...can I fix it only installing grub_07:04
ubuntu_??07:04
hitmanWillyubuntu_: maybe, depends on how much of the install actually completed07:05
ubuntu_or...how can I avoid the message: cluster size is 2 k........I mean......how can I fix what is wrong?07:05
ubuntu_I had the same kubuntu installed before....07:05
hitmanWillyubuntu_: can you boot the system at all?07:06
ubuntu_I just made bigger the partitions....07:06
ubuntu_no... :S im in the live cd07:06
ubuntu_but a week ago it was perfect07:06
hitmanWillyubuntu_: you said grub drops you to a cmd prompt, right?07:06
ubuntu_exactly07:06
hitmanWillyubuntu_: you can attempt a boot from that07:07
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ubuntu_I already tried that...it says that the kernel must be loaded first07:07
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hitmanWillyubuntu_: yeah, you have to tell grub where the kernel is and where the root partition is07:08
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hitmanWilly!grub | ubuntu_07:09
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ubotuubuntu_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto07:09
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ubuntu_ok.....thanks a lot....and...what about the message of the cluster size_07:09
ubuntu_?07:09
hitmanWillycrap, that tutorial assumes all the config files are still there07:10
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ubuntu_it doesnt make sense for me...since I didnt change the cluster size...just the size of the partition >S07:10
hitmanWillyubuntu_: ok, what partition is your kubuntu one?07:11
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hitmanWillyubuntu_: im gonna talk you through a grub reinstall07:12
hitmanWillyat least lets get that working07:12
ubuntu_ /dev/sda507:12
hitmanWillyubuntu_: ok, mount that on /media or somewhere07:13
ubuntu_it is active now07:13
hitmanWillyubuntu_: ok, go ahead and sudo -i, you're going to want to be root to do this07:13
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hitmanWillyubuntu_: then chroot <mountpoint_of_sda5>>07:14
ubuntu_nice.......... I can-t open the terminal...07:14
ubuntu_it crashes07:14
hitmanWillywtf?07:14
ubuntu_yep07:14
ubuntu_well...im gonna try something...07:15
hitmanWillyubuntu_: ok, alt-f2 then xterm07:15
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KprofthreatOf course not.07:15
ubuntu_I'll see if the sabayon dvd that I have can fix the problem..... by using the gparted program that it has07:15
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hitmanWillythe live-cd doesn't have xterm?07:15
ubuntu_do you think is a good idea_07:15
ubuntu_?07:15
hitmanWillyubuntu_: yeah, gparted seems to work better than its qt cousin from my experience07:16
ubuntu_no07:16
ubuntu_ok Ill try that...because im worried about that weird message about the clusters07:16
ubuntu_thanks a lot07:16
hitmanWillynp07:16
Darkkishhow do i get a new IP?07:17
hitmanWillyDarkkish: as far as your actual IP to the world or one on a local network?07:17
herodoes quanta teach you html/css/etc?07:18
hitmanWillyhero: doubt it, but maybe07:18
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juhorner25Hi all07:19
Darkkishactual ip07:19
hitmanWillyDarkkish: that's set up by your ISP, you'll have to talk to them about that07:19
heroalright.07:19
herohtmldog it is07:19
juhorner25Can anybody help me with a GeForce 7800 GS for Kubuntu 7.04?07:20
Darkkishoh07:20
Darkkishokay07:20
hitmanWillyDarkkish: or you may be able to fake it with a proxy server07:20
hitmanWillyjuhorner25: whats the prob?07:20
Macrosoftheh, check this out: "< tmbg_> anyone given thought to using accelerometers from laptops as entropy inputs?07:21
Macrosoft< tkoskine> "Generating a new encryption key, please shake your computer" ? :)"07:21
tmbgyes that would be me.07:21
hitmanWillylol07:21
juhorner25Well everything is running great after I installed07:21
DarkkishhitmanWilly: a proxy would be too slow07:21
juhorner25The only issue is my video card07:21
Darkkishi need to change my IP07:21
juhorner25I go configure it07:21
Darkkishi think i can do it from my router by releasing it07:21
juhorner25but it keeps reverting back to vesa07:21
tmbgI know it's weird but it's still an interesting idea07:21
juhorner25And I can't figure out how to download the Quake 4 Linux demo to test my card and see if it is working07:22
Macrosoftits funny too, i would like to have that on my wireless router07:22
hitmanWillyjuhorner25: run glxgears, better test platform :P07:22
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juhorner25glxgears?07:22
hitmanWillyjuhorner25: its an opengl app designed as a test platform07:23
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juhorner25Oh okay07:23
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juhorner25Can I get that in the package manager?07:23
hitmanWillyjuhorner25: ok, how did you install the drivers, via apt or a gui tool07:23
hitmanWillyjuhorner25: it comes with opengl :P07:24
juhorner25For my video card?07:24
hitmanWillyjuhorner25: yes07:24
Admiral_Chicago!nvidia07:24
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:24
juhorner25It just detected that I had a GeForce 7 series07:24
juhorner25but when I click apply07:24
juhorner25and go back to the display config07:24
juhorner25It reverts back to vesa07:24
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hitmanWillyjuhorner25: are you running the config app as root (kdesu)?07:25
MilhousePunkRockHello everyone!07:25
juhorner25This is my first day on Linux lol07:25
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juhorner25I really don't know07:25
juhorner25I'm sorry07:25
MilhousePunkRockDoes someone happen to know how to use the Intel UPnP tools to debug upnp?07:25
hitmanWillyjuhorner25: did it ask for a passwd when you opened it?07:26
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Ahmuckhi, webmail for tbird works prior to installing apache2.  what file do i need to change to allow access for localhost:110 and 25?07:26
juhorner25I had to click "adminstrator"07:26
Ahmuckhi, webmail for tbird works prior to installing apache2.  what file do i need to change to allow access for localhost:110 and 25?07:26
juhorner25Because it said I couldn't change it without being root07:26
hitmanWillyjuhorner25: did you install the binary drivers?07:26
juhorner25I was looking on Nvidia's site to find linux drivers07:27
juhorner25Just confusing and I didn't want to screw anything up07:27
hitmanWillyjuhorner25: ok, i'll walk you through this07:27
juhorner25I'm looking at this link the other guy gave07:27
hitmanWillyjuhorner25: open up a konsole07:27
juhorner25Okay07:27
juhorner25Got it07:27
hitmanWillyjuhorner25: run this: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx07:28
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juhorner25Okay, it did07:28
hitmanWillyjuhorner25: now, run this: sudo nvidia-xconfig07:29
juhorner25Got it07:29
Darkkishugh07:29
Darkkishi did release renew07:29
Darkkishand my IP is dynamic...07:29
Darkkishbut i still have the same one What the hell?07:30
hitmanWillyjuhorner, now, log out and back in, and it should be working07:30
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juhorner25Okay, how will I know the change?07:30
hitmanWillyjuhorner25: you should see the nvidia logo pop up07:30
juhorner25Oh okay07:30
juhorner25brb07:31
hitmanWillyk07:31
hitmanWillyi know you're supposed to use the gui tools for this now, but the terminal is SO much easier07:31
herowhat goes in a flash drive? the most used things, i mean.07:32
hitmanWillyDarkkish: the router controls the IPs for the local network, the big server it connects to on the ISP end is what assigns IP addresses07:33
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juhorner25hitmanWilly07:38
juhorner25It worked07:38
juhorner25Now I have my sky high resolutions back07:39
juhorner25:-D07:39
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juhorner25Thanks so much07:39
hitmanWillyjuhorner25: :)07:39
juhorner25The interesting thing is everywhere I looked online it seemed so difficult07:40
hitmanWillyjuhorner25: just to run a quick test, try this in a console glxinfo | grep direct07:40
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hitmanWillyit should return direct rendering: Yes07:41
juhorner25Yep07:41
juhorner25It did07:41
hitmanWillyjuhorner25: ok, you're set to go, then07:42
juhorner25So you did it in about three commands07:42
juhorner25Others I see were like a page07:42
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juhorner25I am trying to figure out how to learn these things so I can help others when I get better at it07:42
hitmanWillyjuhorner25: most of the tutorials you see have you edit xorg.conf by hand, which usually isn't necessary unless you run into trouble07:42
juhorner25You need to make those lines a sticky in the forums, that could save a lot of people the trouble07:43
hitmanWillyjuhorner25: tne nvidia-xconfig thing doesn't always work for people, plus ubuntu's got a new gui tool for doing it and they're trying to get people to start using that07:44
Ahmuckhi, webmail for tbird works prior to installing apache2.  what file do i need to change to allow access for localhost:110 and 25?07:44
hitmanWillyAhmuck: /etc/hosts.allow maybe?07:45
juhorner25Oh they do?  I didn't see the gui for it07:45
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hitmanWillyjuhorner25: its not installed by default on kubuntu07:45
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juhorner25Well I found the Quake 4 Linux demo I want to download but the question is07:46
hitmanWillyjuhorner25: its actually a gnome tool07:46
juhorner25How do I download it?  It keeps opening Kate07:46
hitmanWillyjuhorner25: its a shell script, like a batch file, right click and save as07:46
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Gunz +07:47
hitmanWillythe browser thinks its a text file07:48
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hitmanWillywhich in all actuality it is07:48
Darkkish_Boxblelblblelblerl07:49
Darkkish_Boxdoes anyone here have comcast?07:49
juhorner25Oka07:49
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juhorner25I hit save as07:49
AhmuckhitmanWilly: can i specify port in the host file ?07:49
juhorner25quake4-linux-1.0-demo.x86.run07:49
hitmanWillyAhmuck: not sure...07:49
hitmanWillyAhmuck: you should be able to i would think07:50
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hitmanWillyjuhorner25: where is it saved?07:50
juhorner25To my desktop07:50
juhorner25Wait07:50
juhorner25It is saved here07:50
juhorner25home slash juhorner2507:51
hitmanWillyjuhorner25: ok, open up a console07:51
juhorner25ok07:51
hitmanWillyjuhorner25: there's gui ways to do all of this, im just more comfortable in a cmd line :)07:51
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juhorner25Why can't they just have an installer lol07:52
Darkkish_Boxlolol07:52
juhorner25:-p07:52
hitmanWillyjuhorner25: that's what this is :)07:52
juhorner25I mean just by clicking the file I downloaded07:52
juhorner25I need to learn the cmd lines though07:53
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juhorner25Before I use the GUI too much07:53
hitmanWillyjuhorner25: ok, chmod +x quake<tab key>07:53
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hitmanWillyas in hit the tab key07:53
juhorner25ok07:53
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hitmanWillytab completion is nice, isn't it :P07:54
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juhorner25lol ok got that07:54
hitmanWillyjuhorner25: ok, now ./quake<tab key> should run it07:54
Daisuke-Idotab completion.  something i rely on so much i try it in here.  on regular words.  it doesn't work :(07:55
hitmanWillyDaisuke-Ido: i know, pita XD07:56
Daisuke-Idoso did you make it to the movie?07:56
hitmanWillynah, gonna try tommorrow, or actually tonight now :)07:56
Daisuke-Ido:D07:56
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juhorner25I don't mean to bother you but what exactly does chmod +x actually mean?07:57
Daisuke-Idogoing again this weekend, and of course i have a date with the order of the phoenix at midnight tomorrow :D07:57
juhorner25And how do you know that's how to do it?07:57
Daisuke-Idojuhorner25: chmod is change permissions07:57
Daisuke-Ido+x means "make executable"07:57
hitmanWillyjuhorner25: in linux, executability is actually a file permission07:57
hitmanWillyjuhorner25: in nix, file extensions really don't mean anything07:58
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Daisuke-Idojuhorner25: and don't apologize, i assure you most of the people that have been here for a while are thrilled when a new user shows an interest in how and why things work the way they do in linux.07:59
hitmanWillyyes, its nice when someone in here actually wants to learn07:59
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juhorner25Okay back, I'm writing this down lol08:00
juhorner25So, if I downloaded Opera, the web browser08:00
hitmanWillyvice "Just tell me the command!" :P08:00
juhorner25In order to "install" it after downloading08:00
juhorner25I need to change the permission08:00
hitmanWillyjuhorner25: oh, you don't know about adept yet, do you?08:00
juhorner25Is that the package managemet?08:00
hitmanWillyjuhorner25: a front end to it08:00
juhorner25Yeah I used it once08:01
MilhousePunkRockjuhorner25: You can get most software you want from apt-get/adept (Kubuntu's packet manager), if you have the right repositories08:01
juhorner25Just tried to find a small 3d game to test my videocard08:01
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juhorner25So commerical software will not be there right?08:01
MilhousePunkRockjuhorner25: glxgears08:01
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hitmanWillyjuhorner25: not so much, but there is a commercial repo, for "free as in beer" stuff08:02
corevetteanyone want to help out a fellow digger? ;-)08:02
corevettehttp://digg.com/tech_news/69_Tech_Blogs_That_Don_t_Suck08:02
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hitmanWillyjuhorner25: like opera :)08:02
hitmanWillyanyway, i need to get some sleep. c'yall later08:03
juhorner25Like the Quake 4 demo would not be there08:03
juhorner25Alright, take it easy hitman08:03
juhorner25Thanks for everything08:03
hitmanWillyjuhorner25: don't think that's in the repos yet08:03
MilhousePunkRockjuhorner25: Try hitman<tab key>08:04
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MilhousePunkRockjuhorner25: Because if you type the complete name, the person you adress will see the line highlighted08:04
juhorner25Oh okay08:04
juhorner25MilhousePunkRock: Like this?08:04
Macrosoftit depends on what app you use for irc08:04
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pipitoot : any1 get problem when apt-get ?08:05
MilhousePunkRockjuhorner25: Exactly, in Konversation, I get a little OSD and the line is written in red08:05
juhorner25MilhousePunkRock: Oh okay, I wondered how you were doing that08:05
Macrosofton mine when someone mentions me, the taskbar flashes annoyingly until i bring up that window08:06
MilhousePunkRockjuhorner25: Of course you could completely type the name yourself, but tab completion is much easier08:06
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juhorner25MilhousePunkRock: LoL yeah, no doubt08:06
juhorner25MilhousePunkRock: Linux has so much depth, I feel like I am always learning something08:06
MilhousePunkRockNot to forget the orange flashing of the Konversation icon in the system area08:06
juhorner25MilhousePunkRock: Even doing common tasks08:06
Macrosoftyou dont have to press tab...if you type Macro: <chat here> it still works08:07
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MilhousePunkRockjuhorner25: As you said it's your first day, you will learn a lot in the near future08:07
juhorner25MilhousePunkRock: Yeah, I know I have a long way to go08:07
Macrosoftyou will learn things like this:08:07
Daisuke-Idojuhorner25: a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step08:08
MilhousePunkRockMacrosoft: What client are you using? I guess it depends on the highlighting you set up08:08
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juhorner25MilhousePunkRock: It is a lot of fun learning it08:08
juhorner25MilhousePunkRock: And having a community to learn with is awesome08:08
Daisuke-Idoi've always seen that as a very apt description of learning linux.08:08
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MilhousePunkRockBack to my initial question, does someone know how to use the Intel UPnp tools?08:08
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Macrosoftim using kopete, in KDE and GNOME08:08
K`zanHi folks, I installed the nvidia drivers and now to get X up I have to log in a root, rmmod nvidia, modprobe nvidia and restart kdm, what did I miss?08:09
MilhousePunkRockMacrosoft: I use that as my IM, but I never tried it for IRC08:09
Macrosofti use it for IM too08:09
Macrosoftmainly because it notifies me when i get new email08:09
MilhousePunkRockMacrosoft: Well, KMail does that for me...08:10
carutsu!virtualization08:11
ubotuThere are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications08:11
carutsuwhich one is better?08:11
carutsu!virtualbox08:11
ubotuVirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox08:11
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Macrosoftanyone else think the effects in compiz are cool (translucency, woblly windows, fade effect, etc.)08:12
Daisuke-Idoi do like the gl WMs08:12
Daisuke-Ido(compiz/beryl)08:12
Macrosofti wish it wasnt so buggyy08:12
MilhousePunkRockMacrosoft: Doesn't work on my Laptop with the poor 8 MB savage video chip08:12
Daisuke-Idothough i think i'm going to go straight compiz because of the post-merger additions08:12
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juhorner25I have the beryl manager but I don't know how to apply my changes08:14
Darkkish_Boxjuhorner25:08:14
Macrosoftthere should be an app in your menubar for that08:14
Daisuke-Idoif you're not running beryl itse'f you're not making any changes08:14
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Darkkish_Boxjuhorner25: you have both beryl and the manager installed?08:15
SanityInAnarchyQuestion: How can I boot the Kubuntu desktop CD without X?08:15
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Daisuke-Idoand if you're not running the proprietary drivers for your vid card (ati/nvidia) you'll have a problem running beryl08:15
Darkkish_BoxSanityInAnarchy: why?08:15
SanityInAnarchyDarkkish_Box:  Every single tool I want to use off the livecd is commandline08:15
Ahmucki am getting localhost denied.  why ?08:15
Darkkish_BoxSanityInAnarchy: can't you just open a console?08:15
SanityInAnarchyand it's on a laptop old enough that I'm actually hitting the OOM killer with X08:15
Macrosoftthen ude konsole08:16
Macrosoft*use08:16
SanityInAnarchyDarkkish_Box:  I hit ctrl+alt+f1, I'm now waiting -- for like 5-10 mins -- on a ps command08:16
SanityInAnarchyto try and figure out how to kill X08:16
Macrosoftlog out08:16
SanityInAnarchyis there a way to do this, or do I have to spend half an hour to get a usable rescue disk?08:16
Macrosoftand select failsafe terminal session08:16
juhorner25Darkkish_Box: I think I have both08:17
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juhorner25I downloaded what was in the packet manager08:17
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tino_hola alguien habla en espaol08:19
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MilhousePunkRock!es08:19
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.08:19
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davascript#kubuntu-es for all your espanol needs08:24
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davascriptoh the bot takes care of that08:24
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juhorner25Anybody know how to apply the beryl settings you make in the settings manager?08:24
davascriptujs the cli it works better08:25
stdinjuhorner25: they are applied automatically08:25
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juhorner25stdin: hmmm... without reboot?  I can't get the cube desktop to work unless there's a key to do it that I am not pressing08:26
stdinjuhorner25: the default is Ctrl-Alt-Right Click IIRC08:26
juhorner25I tried ctrl+alt+right click08:28
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m4nhow do I get the version of kubutu am running08:34
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m4nkubuntu*08:34
stdin!version | m4n08:34
ubotum4n: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell08:34
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m4nkewl. thanks08:34
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phoenixzm trying to install a local .deb file with apt-get, but all I get is "E: Couldn't find package"  Which package is it talking about?!?! And how can I fix this?08:34
stdin!deb | phoenixz08:34
ubotuphoenixz: deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)08:34
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stdinphoenixz: apt can't install deb's, it's only used to fetch them and resolve dependencies. dpkg installs them08:35
phoenixzahah08:36
meuhlolsomeone know how to install SHockwave plugin for firefox?08:36
stdinmeuhlol: simple answer is you can't08:36
phoenixzstdin, so, how could I install this file WITH automatic dependancy resolving, downloading and installing?08:36
stdinmeuhlol: adobe hasn't released a linux version08:36
meuhlolstdin: i think you are not reason lol, nspluginwrapper maybe?08:36
stdinphoenixz: in a terminal do "sudo dpkg -i /path/to/local/file.deb"08:37
stdinmeuhlol: no, there is no linux version at all08:37
stdinmeuhlol: nspluginwrapper is x86 wrapper for 63bit08:38
stdin*64bit08:38
meuhlolstdin: fuck :'( yes i know, but...08:38
meuhlolrofl i want play couronne delux at miniclip :p08:38
meuhlolwant beat them all xD08:38
tino_buenas08:38
stdinblame adobe08:38
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tino_algun espaol08:38
meuhlolsure, cretins of adobe! xD but i love photoshop :p08:38
phoenixzstdin, that gives me the exact same problem.. there are dependancies missing that need to be downloaded and installed.. How would that be done in combination?08:39
stdin!es | tino_08:39
ubotutino_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.08:39
meuhloltino /join #kubuntu-es08:39
stdinphoenixz: ok, when you've done the dpkg stuff, it can tell apt the deps. so now just do "sudo apt-get -f install"08:39
meuhlolphoenixz: what dependecies & for what?08:39
meuhlol&/or sudo apt-get update xD08:40
krautmoin08:40
stdinmeuhlol: no, that won't work08:40
meuhlolbefore install something i always updating :)08:40
meuhlolimb08:41
phoenixzmeuhlol svk, version 2.0108:41
stdinit's a deb file, not a package in the repos08:41
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meuhloloh okey08:42
phoenixzstdin, actually, the file is in the repos, but in an old version.. it looks like the correct version is available in some apt-get repository, but I have no clue how to get that one08:42
phoenixzhttp://packages.qa.debian.org/s/svk.html  it shows version 2.01 available in "testing".. How would I get that one instead of the (hopelessly outdated) 1.0808:42
phoenixz?08:42
stdinphoenixz: it's not a great idea to add 3rd party repos to your sources.list08:42
stdinphoenixz: unless you know what you're doing08:42
phoenixzstdin, This is not 3rd party, is it?08:43
stdinphoenixz: it's a debian repo, this isn't debian08:43
phoenixzI thought kubuntu was like ontop of debian?08:43
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stdinphoenixz: not exactly, it's based on debian but we add our own patches and use different version numbers sometimes08:44
stdinphoenixz: that can mess your system up if they get confused08:44
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meuhloljuste one question: someone can tell me, what is an "good" cd/dvd iso's emulator for nux?08:45
stdinmeuhlol: heh, it's built in08:45
stdin!iso08:46
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.08:46
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neptunepinknow what's an interesting package that I haven't installed....08:46
meuhlolstdin: oO lol08:46
stdinmeuhlol: linux is cool like that :p08:46
meuhlolyeah ! thank you08:46
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meuhlolfuck windoze i had my doze xD08:47
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Hobbsee!language | meuhlol08:47
ubotumeuhlol: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.08:47
meuhloloki :)08:48
stdinhey Hobbsee :)08:48
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Hobbseehi stdin08:48
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phoenixzstdin, Any place where I could see IF there is a newer version availabe?08:48
stdinphoenixz: I would say in -backports, but I happen to know that the version in there is 1.08-2ubuntu108:49
meuhlolstdin: when i try to mount an iso, but it's says "cant find" something in fstab :/08:51
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stdinmeuhlol: make sure you use the right syntax, it goes like this: sudo -o loop mount /path/to/my/file.iso /place/to/mount/the/iso/08:53
stdinmeuhlol: opps, forgot the "mount"08:53
stdinmeuhlol:  sudo mount -o loop mount /path/to/my/file.iso /place/to/mount/the/iso/08:53
emonkeystdin, two times mount:  mount -o loop mount08:54
Seek_Therapy_Nowanyone here know how to configure konversation?08:54
stdinarg08:54
stdin"sudo mount -o loop /path/to/my/file.iso /place/to/mount/the/iso/" < there :P08:54
stdinSeek_Therapy_Now: to do what?08:55
meuhlolah oki stdin thanks08:55
stdinmeuhlol: if it complains about the filesystem put "-t iso9660" at the end of that08:55
Seek_Therapy_Nowspell and search for other channels, nothing fancy08:55
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stdinSeek_Therapy_Now: atm you can only have one language selected as default, you'd have to change it manually when running a check to the language of the channel08:56
Seek_Therapy_Nowi thought i did this before08:57
Seek_Therapy_Nowyou know what's strange ?08:57
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stdinSeek_Therapy_Now: it's because konvorsation reads the default from KDEs settigns08:57
meuhlolstdin: how to unmount? the same but "umount" ?08:57
Seek_Therapy_Nowx-chat gnome won't start either08:58
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Seek_Therapy_Nowit opens then shuts down08:58
stdinmeuhlol: you just need to put the path you mounted the image to, no need for all those options08:58
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meuhlolstdin: to unmount... what is commands?08:58
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stdinmeuhlol: eg, if you mounted it to "/home/me/mounts", then you'd run "sudo umount /home/me/mounts"08:59
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meuhlolthnaks08:59
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Seek_Therapy_Nownope it opens then shuts down09:01
stdintry running it from konsole to check for any error09:02
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Seek_Therapy_Nowhow do i run it from konsole...i just installed it09:07
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stdinSeek_Therapy_Now: xchat maybe?09:08
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Seek_Therapy_Nowwhat just type it in09:09
Daisuke-Idoyeah, that's how the console works :)09:09
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stdinSeek_Therapy_Now: try: xchat-gnome09:09
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Daisuke-Idoit's incredibly powerful09:09
Daisuke-Idobut takes some patience and willingness to learn ;)09:10
Seek_Therapy_Nownope shut down again09:10
stdinanything output on the terminal tho?09:10
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Seek_Therapy_Nowno nothing...it opens for a second and then shuts down09:11
crocodilewhen I watch movies with VLC and compiz, the movie playback is 'seethrough'09:11
crocodileI can see the desktopthrough the picture09:11
Daisuke-Idocrocodile: turn off compiz.09:11
crocodilethat's a shitty solution..09:12
Daisuke-Idoor render differently with vlc09:12
crocodilethat's a better onne, how?09:12
Macrosoftberyl made gdm crash... lesson learned09:12
Daisuke-Idoit's a gl desktop and vlc uses gl output, the two don't play well together.09:12
Daisuke-Idolemme look09:12
Daisuke-Idopreferences > video > output modules09:13
Daisuke-Idoadvanced settings09:13
Daisuke-Idopick one from the dropdown09:13
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Daisuke-Idox11 might work well09:13
Daisuke-Idoor xvideo09:14
Daisuke-Idobedtime09:15
crocodilex11 is still transparent, trying xvideo09:15
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Daisuke-Idogl rendering might do it, but idunno09:16
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crocodilexvideo too :(09:16
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crocodileevery setting is actually still transparent09:17
crocodileguess I need to hit the forums09:17
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Ryarenhi!09:29
Ryarenwhere can i find that log file what save what is happening when i restart the X?09:30
Ryarenbecause it is freezing when I press ctrl+alt+backspace09:30
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pagRyaren, /var/log/xorg.log ?09:31
RyarenIt is not good because09:31
Ryarenwhen i restart the X it is freezing and I can get another tab (alt+f1,f2 etc)09:31
pagRyaren, /var/log/Xorg.0.log is the right path09:31
Ryarenand I have to reboot the machine09:31
Ryarenand then the xorg file re-write09:32
pagRyaren, tried ctlr+alt+fX ?09:32
Ryareni CAN'T get another tab :)09:32
Ryarenyes09:32
Ryarenofcourse09:32
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Ryarenbut nothin happens09:32
RyarenI don't know what is wrong09:32
pagRyaren, boot from live-cd, ant take a look from there?09:32
pagRyaren, or boot into the rescue-mode09:33
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Ryarenthat's a good idea!09:33
Ryaren:)09:33
Ryarenthank you09:33
pagnp :)09:33
Ryarengonna try09:33
meuhlolsomeone can tell me how to use .run files ?09:33
pagmeuhlol, iirc .run-files are for Windows?  But if they're not, the you should give theme execution (sp?) right and run them09:35
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pagmeuhlol, (sudo) chmod u+x /path/to/file   and  /path/to/file09:35
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anrykoRyaren: sh blabla.run09:38
meuhlolpag: im on FF :) just need to make it executable? oh! nice :)09:39
meuhlolthanks09:39
meuhlolanryko: thnks09:39
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meuhlolhuh09:40
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meuhlolsomeone knows a loki installers? i have an cd image file (iso) that i mounted up in /media/cd1/ folder, but when i run Loki installer (.run file) he wants me to mount up an CD... how can i use LOKI with mounted iso?09:41
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anrykotry to mount iso to /cdrom...09:43
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Ryarenpag: The log file wasn't modified09:45
meuhlolalready tryed... have an folder named cdrom009:45
meuhlolanryko: but he says always the same... please mount a cd :/09:45
Ryarenbut now it is freezing in here: reloading system log daemon09:45
pagRyaren, strange... try to boot without "quiet" and "splash" kernel-modules.. it may give you some information.09:46
Ryarenreboot is working09:47
Ryarenonly the x-restart have trouble09:47
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pagoh... Ryaren, then you could try to restart X from the command line; log on any other TTy (ctrl+alt+f1) and command sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart09:50
Ryarenokay09:50
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meuhlolpag: any ideas please? about "howto" emulate an cd-rom? when i mount an iso, loki ask me to mount a cd :S i've tryed to mount up my iso in a /media/cdrom0/ but nothing changes :(09:52
pagmeuhlol, sorry, I'm not familiar with Loki-installer or cdrom-emulation09:53
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meuhlolpag sorry :'(09:54
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seregahi guys. Is there anybody familiar with ALSA sound troubles?09:55
MilhousePunkRockHow can I repair a non-contigous file system?09:55
seregafsck09:55
MilhousePunkRockserega: fsck checks, but does not repair by default09:56
seregafsck checks and repairs09:56
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seregawhat kind of fs?09:56
MilhousePunkRockserega: ext309:56
anrykofsck.ext3 -fy09:56
MilhousePunkRockjust data on there, no system files or anything of high importance09:56
seregahmm... ext3 uses journalling how did you met fs corruption?)09:57
tino_#kubuntu-es09:57
MilhousePunkRockserega: That is a very good question, but 85 % non-contigous sounds pretty borked to me09:58
seregahuh09:58
seregamaybe you have old harddrive?09:58
MilhousePunkRockserega: It's about 2 weeks old...09:59
phoenixzIve installed apache with php, but when I open a page in localhost, it shows me the source code, so php is not doing anything.. How can I debug this?09:59
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seregababe09:59
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phoenixzerror_log does not show any problem with startup09:59
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Ryarenpag: I realized the problem10:00
pagphoenixz, just a guess: have you got apache-php -module installed, and have you restarted apache since its installation?10:00
jtonghi all10:00
RyarenWhen TwinView enabled I can't restart X10:00
Ryarenmaybe the TV can't make appear the screen..10:01
seregaALSA distorts sound on simultaneous play. any suggestions?10:01
pagRyaren, well that sucks :-/  Sorry, but I have no idea how to repair that (or is it even possible)10:01
phoenixzpag, if you mean libapache2-mod-php5? yeah, and php5 itself? too yeah, and I restarted10:02
stdinphoenixz: this page should help you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#head-59bdeb1f6438eddbde544b41ca0a5149c59624b610:02
phoenixzpag, there were some missing symlinks in mod-enabled, which I also made10:02
RyarenI'm looking for some kind of way to switch between TwinView metamodes10:02
phoenixzstdin, I'll checkitout, thanks!10:02
Ryarenand then before I want to restart the X I will swtich to that mode where the TV is null :)10:03
phoenixzstdin, gittot.. it was functioning all the time, the @(#*@(#* firefox cache didnt know that..10:04
phoenixzstdin, gittot = gottit...10:05
phoenixzstdin, its working perfectly, thanks :)10:05
stdinno problem10:05
phoenixzJust another question.. I used Fedora quite a bit until now.. used core 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7... and now Im on kubuntu, and wodering why the hell my computer is like 2x faster....10:06
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pagphoenixz, less services running? no SELinux?10:07
seregaguys, please help me with sound :)10:07
phoenixzI mean, adept-manager versus fedora yum is not even funny anymore.. :) when adept manager is finished installing a 50MB package, and shut down again, yum is still trying to start up!10:07
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reldruhI'm trying to set up kmobiletools to sync with my cellphone (a samsung sch-a870) but without any luck. The kmobiletools configuration wants me to enter the path to the cell phone (/dev/mobile by default) but that doesn't exist for me even though bluetooth:/ picks up my phone and I have some services listed. Can anybody help me get it set up?10:08
pagphoenixz, wow... :) nice to hear, that Adept is fast compared to anything  ( I use command line to do my installations and upgrades *that* is fast :)10:09
phoenixzpag, I used to do command line yum for that too yeah.. yum is slowwww.. then the graphical counter part, yumex...Tea time!! forgettit, 5 minutes just to start up..10:10
phoenixzbut in all, kubuntu is just really A LOT faster.. I have this heavy intranet system here, running on apache/php/mysql... database init on fedora would take a friggin 15 minutes.. on kubuntu it does the same in a whopping 1.30 minutes..10:12
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eagles0513875lol10:13
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eagles0513875kubuntu outperforms everydistro im trying out fc7 as a virtual machine lol that is a beast10:13
phoenixzI never wanted to try ubuntu because.. well.. gnome.. what can I say ;) Im not a fan of it, it would be nice for my mum I suppose..  But Kubuntu.. Great job everybody! :) thanks!10:14
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eagles0513875u running a 64 bit or 32 bit os10:15
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eagles0513875im running the 64bit version of kubuntu and man its the best 64bit os out there10:15
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eagles0513875its amazing how much more u can multitask with it10:16
goldfingermafiahow do i make other poeple see red?10:16
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eagles0513875type the name first then hit tab to complete the name10:16
eagles0513875then u type what u say after that10:16
pag!tab | goldfingermafia10:16
pagoh yeah... ubotu doesn't work :'(10:16
goldfingermafiaty10:16
eagles0513875pag: whats wrong with him10:16
eagles0513875lol10:16
pageagles0513875, netspilt I guess10:17
eagles0513875whats that10:17
pageagles0513875, he's not on the channel10:17
eagles0513875ahh10:17
eagles0513875!netspilt10:17
eagles0513875haha i forgot he isnt here10:17
pageagles0513875, https://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?search=netsplit  :)10:18
jtongcan someone tell me how i can deselect some modules loading at bootup10:18
eagles0513875pag: ty10:19
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eagles0513875phoenixz: im guessing ur using the 32bit version of kubuntu10:19
phoenixzeagles0513875, yeah, 32 computer, still... why?10:19
eagles0513875j/w10:20
eagles0513875phoenixz: kubuntu is the best 64bit os out there outperforms winblows x6410:20
eagles0513875phoenixz: it has the best support for alot of 64bit stuff10:21
phoenixzerr, I think just about anything would outperform winblows 64 :)10:21
eagles0513875lol10:21
goldfingermafiaanyone know how to set eth0 to my wifi card, im trying to run wireshark, and im on a new macbook10:21
eagles0513875i was having huge problems on my desktop10:21
phoenixzeagles0513875, Im seriously impressed...10:21
eagles0513875goldfingermafia: is it turned on10:21
eagles0513875phoenixz: is ur nick registered10:21
eagles0513875!register | phoenixz10:21
eagles0513875pag u have the link so phoenixz can register his nic10:22
eagles0513875k10:22
goldfingermafiaeagles0513875: waht do you mean, it wont work in wireshark?10:22
pagclearly, we can't live without ubotu =)10:22
eagles0513875i know10:22
phoenixzMy nick should be registered.. you mean here with freenode?10:22
eagles0513875ya10:22
paghttp://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration10:22
eagles0513875goldfingermafia: what im saying is it enabled10:22
eagles0513875phoenixz: have u identified urself10:22
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phoenixz-NickServ- You have already identified10:23
eagles0513875ok10:23
phoenixzI think I have yeah ;)10:23
eagles0513875im going to pm ya so we dont flood the channel10:23
phoenixzpm?10:23
eagles0513875private message10:24
eagles0513875so that way we dont take the channel off topic10:24
pageagles0513875, or you could take that to #kubuntu-offtopic10:24
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eagles0513875pag: could do that too10:24
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Ray-!rar10:26
Ray-!unrar10:26
Ray-:/10:26
Ray-the ark is not unraring the .rar files10:26
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pagRay-, sudo apt-get install unrar10:26
whippymorning,10:26
whippydoes someone use kdevelop?10:26
pagRay-, you have to have multiverse enabled10:27
pagwhippy, I tried it for couple of times10:27
goldfingermafiaanyone know waht an ARP packet is?10:27
Ray-pag: I dont know how to know if they are enabled or not10:27
paggoldfingermafia, "Apache Portable Runtime"?10:27
whippy@pag,10:28
whippyi now installed it10:28
whippyand designed an .ui10:28
whippyhow can i run it?10:28
Ray-pag: I guess it worked :)10:28
whippynormally there is a compile button? but .ui seems to be included somewhere?10:28
Ray-Thank you.10:28
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pagRay-, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu <- just in case youll need that10:29
nekohow install drivers rage 128 ?10:29
nekoati-driver-installer-8.37.6-x86.x86_64.run.part - its good ?10:29
pagwhippy, sorry, I don't know. I just coded couple of Hello Worlds with it :-P10:29
whippyi see10:30
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nekoHelp me10:33
eagles0513875neko: that driver is not completely downloaded .part means its only partially downloaded10:34
nekoi know10:34
nekoi downloading10:34
nekonow10:34
eagles0513875ok lol10:34
nekobut is it ?10:34
eagles0513875is what10:34
nekogood driver for rage 12810:34
eagles0513875firstly r u running a 64bit system10:34
eagles0513875cuz the driver ur downloading is for 64bit systems10:35
nekoO.O10:35
pagneko, you can install drivers from the repos.  And I think that open drivers have got pretty good suppord for that old cards10:35
eagles0513875x86_64 lol10:35
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eagles0513875neko: look at the last part before run lol10:35
nekobut opengl sux :/10:35
eagles0513875lol ur lucky u dont have to go through what i do to just get open gl enabled on this machine10:36
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pagneko, what does " glxinfo | grep -i direct " return?10:36
nekow810:37
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nekoglxinfo | grep -i direct10:37
nekoops10:37
nekodirect rendering: No10:37
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ubuntu_lol10:39
ubuntu_vm works10:39
ubuntu_<o/10:39
eagles0513875u havent installed the binary yet10:39
pagneko, you can try these instructiuons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:39
nekothx10:39
eagles0513875ubuntu_: u using vmware server10:39
ubuntu_nope10:39
ubuntu_workstation10:39
ubuntu_lol10:39
eagles0513875lol10:39
eagles0513875vmware for 64bit os's is pos10:39
eagles0513875im using virtual box instead10:39
whippydoes somebody programm in kdevelop? GUI?10:40
jussi01i have used it before whippy10:40
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jussi01its quite nice10:41
whippyjussi01, do you know how to make a simple GUI project10:41
whippyKDE helloworld...10:41
whippyi started with the project,10:41
jussi01no, Im sorry, I havent done gui's10:41
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neko"System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager" and select "ATI accelerated graphics driver"10:42
nekoim have kde :/10:42
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pagneko, use edgy-instructions, they're pretty much DE-independed10:43
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nekook10:43
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nekoxorg-driver-fglrx jest ju w najnowszej wersji10:45
pagneko, so you have it already installed.. continue the tutorial :)10:46
neko:>10:46
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nekoneko@neko-desktop:~$ sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv10:49
nekoWarning: Option 'VideoOverlay' doesn't affect running session.10:49
nekoWarning: Option 'OpenGLOverlay' doesn't affect running session.10:49
nekoUsing /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:49
nekoSaved back-up to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.fglrx-010:49
nekowhat is it ?10:49
pagneko, now you should probably restart your X10:49
nekohow ?10:49
nekoReset10:49
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pagctrl+alt+backspace10:49
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whippy@pag,10:51
pagyup?10:51
whippyi heard about a solution for my problem, but need to install sys-devel/autoconf (2.13(2.1)10:51
whippydo you now, how to make this?10:51
whippyi tried with -> apt-get install autoconf10:51
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whippybut that was the false version10:51
whippyi think10:51
pagwhippy, sudo apt-get install autoconf2.1310:52
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pag"autoconf2.13 - automatic configure script builder (obsolete version)"10:52
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whippythanks10:53
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whippy@pag, could it be, that i have to restart ?10:55
whippyno or?10:55
whippyin linux everything is live...10:55
pagwhippy, I have no idea, probably not. You may have to restart the programm though.10:55
whippyoke ;)10:56
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eagles0513875whippy: its funny how restarting things fixes problems10:57
mokyhello10:57
mokyI've a problem with the internet connection of KGutsy Tribe210:57
mokyit only accepts eth210:57
mokyso I am unable to connect10:58
pagmoky, help with Gutsy in #ubuntu+110:58
mokyok thanks10:58
mokyI did not knew this channel10:59
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netdaemonis there an easy way to get those snowflakes out of the background of konqueror?11:01
pagRay-, please, no np-scripts here-11:01
Ray-pag: was testing it, sorry11:02
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pagnetdaemon, View -> configure Background11:02
netdaemonty11:03
netdaemondon't want to remove all the kubuntu modifications to kde >_>11:03
netdaemonlol11:03
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whippycan me tell somebody what a "qry" is?11:07
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whippywhat does it mean in irc?11:08
whippyis this a private chat?11:08
pagwhippy, query? pretty much the same as private-message11:08
whippyi see11:08
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whippyso i can open a qry, whithout troubles?11:08
pagwhippy, if you have an registred nickneame - yes.11:09
vzduchwhippy: better ask the person in question if you may11:09
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DutchmanHello does anyone have a little knowladge of Using Ubuntu server 7.0.4 with an hyperthreading CPU ?11:10
anrykocan i remove Konqueror, kate, kaffeine and all other useless things without removing kubuntu-desktop?11:10
stdinanryko: no11:11
paganryko, kubuntu-desktop is in itself pretty useless ;)11:11
meuhlolanryko: nope11:11
stdinDutchman: maybe ask in #ubuntu-server11:11
Dutchmanthanks stdin11:11
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anrykoi wanna use kde, but i dont need all that staff... and my hda is only 20G... what can you sugest?11:12
meuhlolstdin: do you know how to make Loki installer to use mounted iso file please? I tryed mount iso in /media/cdrom0 but loki installer ask me to mount an cd :( How to mount my iso & let system think that is a cd-rom?11:12
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paganryko, you don't need kubuntu-desktop. Well, unless you want to upgrade from release to newer one11:12
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meuhlolanryko: xfce11:13
stdinmeuhlol: to the system there is no difference between a file and a disk, so it should work. it's the loki script that's not detecting it right, so you'll need to ask them about it11:13
anrykoso i can remove kubuntu desktom, and still use kde?11:13
whippy@pag ;) someone told me now i would need automake 3.4.111:14
stdinanryko: yeah11:14
whippybut i can't find it in the repo11:14
stdinanryko: it's only a meta-package11:14
meuhlolstdin: what way is to edit without corrupt script of loki?11:14
whippyis there a good site with .deb packages?11:14
whippywhere to search11:14
stdinmeuhlol: I don't know, I've never used it11:14
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meuhlolanryko: xfce is not KDE but it's an nux sys for a low pc11:15
pagwhippy, there's not much deb's on the net.. try to google for one :-/ Or just compile from the sources11:15
meuhlolstdin: oki thanks however :)11:15
stdinwhippy: the latest automake is 1.10, there isn't a 3.4.111:16
jussi01whippy: you could try getadeb11:16
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meuhlolhttp://www.getdeb.net/11:17
meuhlol:)11:17
jussi01hmm, as ubotu is dead, anyone know the command for fixing adept?11:17
pagjussi01, udo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a11:18
pagsudo that is11:18
jussi01thanks pag11:18
paghttps://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi? <311:18
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jussi01:)11:18
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netdaemonis that a permifix for adept?11:22
netdaemonor is it just temporary11:22
pagnetdaemon, well. adept souldn't lock up, so that fixes one lockup at the time11:22
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netdaemonah i see11:23
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nekoHelp me ;/11:30
pagneko, what happened?11:30
Ray-pag: my ISP gave me a proxy to use so I can ftp to my website with high proirity, on XP I used FileZilla, but the filezilla installed in here can't use a proxy in the setting .. is there any ftp client you recommend to use with a proxy?11:30
nekox server not running ;/11:30
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pagRay-, I don't know, sorry11:30
nekoim install kubuntu11:31
pagneko, edit xorg.conf and change Driver-section back to "ati" or "vesa"11:31
nekook11:31
pagneko, no need for reinstall11:31
whippypag, ;)11:31
whippymy helper ;)11:31
whippy(:11:31
nekohow i can change it ?11:31
nekoim now on Cd11:32
whippyhow to install dpkg --install sourcename, and autoresolve dependencies?11:32
whippy;)11:32
pagneko, please paste in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org output of the "mount"11:32
stdinwhippy: use "sudo apt-get -f install" to resolve dependencies11:32
nekook11:32
nekowhat is it ?11:33
whippy@stdin but i install via dpkg --install11:33
stdinwhippy: and?11:33
pagneko, what exactly?11:33
whippyhow do i this11:33
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stdinwhippy: like i said "sudo apt-get -f install" to resolve dependencies11:33
whippyi have kdevelop3.4.1.deb11:33
stdinwhippy: apt is a frontend to dpkg11:34
nekomount ?11:34
whippyhmmm....11:34
whippyso first i type dpkg --install name11:34
pagwhippy, sudo dpkg -i kdevelop*.deb && sudo apt-get install -f11:34
whippythan apt-get -f install11:34
stdinwhippy: yeah11:34
nekoSyntax11:34
whippyand than retry: dpkg --install name ? ;)11:34
whippyoke,thanks ;)11:34
pagneko, open konsole, type mouunt and paste output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org11:34
nekoaaa11:34
nekook11:34
pagmount that is11:34
stdinwhippy: you don't need to do the dpkg --install again, it should be installed then11:35
pagwhippy, you could also just right click on .deb and choose "istall" ;)11:35
nekomount: can't find http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab11:35
pagneko, heh.. just type mount11:36
pagthen see what it outputs and copy the output in the pastebin11:36
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stdinpag: right-clicking and choosing install wouldn't resolve deps tho11:37
pagstdin, oh... I forgot :)11:37
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xardiashi. can anyone suggest me a tv card? i just need a working composite video-in in kubuntu. usb prefered.11:38
whippy@stdin...11:38
whippyi tried, but it does not work...11:38
whippyi did11:38
nekomount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on unionfs,11:38
neko       missing codepage or other error11:38
neko       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try11:38
neko       dmesg | tail  or so11:38
whippydpkg --install kdevelop341.deb11:38
whippyapt-get install -f11:38
whippydpkg --install kdevelop341.deb11:38
whippyand he can't install it11:39
stdinwhippy: post the output to pastebin11:39
nekoim reinstall Os11:39
pagneko, do you know on which partition your / is?11:39
neko?11:39
pagneko, like /dev/sda5 or something like that11:39
stdintry "sudo fdisk -l" and see11:39
neko fdisk /dev/hda  (for the first IDE disk)11:40
stdinyou don't need to put the device in, it should just list all devices (disks)11:41
fatihcirogluhi guys, i made this wallpaper for ubuntu + alizee ^^ http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/8643/fatihyp0.jpg11:41
fatihciroglu: )11:42
stdinfatihciroglu: 1) that should go in -offtopic, 2) nice work :) 3) maybe post it to http://www.kubuntu-art.org/ or http://www.kde-look.org/11:43
dromerhi all, I'm having trouble with the dhcp client: there keeps getting a 2nd client running when I boot which interferes with dhcp (and expires my lease), can someone help me turn this client off from boot?11:43
whippy@stdin....11:43
whippyim experimenting at the moment,11:44
fatihciroglustdin: 1) sorry 2)thanks a lot 3) ok, i will try :)11:44
whippyi think... i got the problem, have to add a package manually,11:44
whippyit was written on the console i overread... :/11:44
whippynow it installs about 84mb seems to be fine...11:44
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tazzcan any one recommend a good ftp agent for kubuntu?11:47
pagtazz, afaik Konqueror can do ftp pretty good11:48
gnomefreakif i say gftp is taht bad ;)11:49
gnomefreaktazz: konqueror should be ok with it11:49
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fatihciroglustdin: cya boss11:50
stdinlater11:50
gnomefreaktazz: have you tried kftpgrabber?11:52
tazzgnomefreak, pag how do i get konq to use a particular login id and password?11:52
tazzgnomefreak, nope i didnt try kftpgrabber.11:53
gnomefreaktazz: that i dont know i dont use it for ftp11:53
gnomefreaki use nautilus for ftp :)11:53
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stdintazz: like: ftp://username@host or ftp://username:password@host11:53
tazzah! let me try that.11:53
tazzthanks stdin it worked! :-)11:54
tazzthat should do for now.11:54
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dromeranyone know how I can disable the 2nd dhclient from starting up on boot?11:54
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Frihi all, does anyone know a good Audio Sequencer like Logic Audio?11:57
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wappdevFri: Have a look at Ardour11:59
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FriWappdev: Thx, I'll try it.12:00
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m4nis there a package I have to install or a command to run to see my newly installed packages in the menu?12:12
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m4ni just installed kdegames, but I do not see a menu item in KMenu?12:13
whippyhey ;) if somebody intereseted, i finished install kdevelop3.4.1 with .deb packages12:13
whippyi have my first kde sample application "hello world" ;) on kde12:14
dromerlol12:14
stdinm4n: try "kbuildsycoca"12:15
m4nstdin: let me check12:15
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meuhlolstdin: re, do you know an editor for run files please?12:17
Sutopohi12:17
RivaeAeryaIs it possible to make websites use gray instead of white, and the link colors another one?12:17
Sutopoi got this problem --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29202/12:18
RivaeAeryaon all websites?12:18
RivaeAeryaIn Konqueror, i mean12:18
Sutopohow to solve it?12:18
m4nSutopo: you need the devel packages12:18
stdinmeuhlol: .run files are text scripts with an archive in them, so the 1st bit is text but there is an archive encoded after12:18
Sutopom4n: devel paackge?12:18
Sutopom4n: where to get it?12:19
m4nlibssl-dev try that12:19
Sutopook12:19
anrykopag: thenx for your advice12:20
dromerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29204/  << the 2nd dhcp sometimes starts up mysteriously, I'd like to shut it off, anybody know how to do this?12:20
stdinSutopo: install libssl-dev12:20
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paganryko, np :)12:20
RivaeAeryaanyone know?12:20
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madeofcandyargh im a pirate12:21
dromerargh I dont know how to turn of this dhclient312:22
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madeofcandyargh im still a pirate12:22
meuhlolstdin: but with what i need to edit them?12:23
madeofcandyand a mighty scurvy one at that12:23
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stdinmeuhlol: a text editor to edit the script part, other than that I don't know12:23
Sutopoi already install openvpn using apt-get network-manager-openvpn12:23
Sutopobut could't find the conf file12:24
m4nSutopo: dpkg -L package will list the files in that12:24
stdinSutopo: you configure it in knetworkmanager12:24
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m4nstdin: thanks, i guess it did the trick :)12:26
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meuhlolstdin: exactly i can edit with kate for exemple, but saving it can make a corrupted file, cuz it's binary12:27
meuhloli know one think: it's compiled with "makeself"12:27
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whippyhow is the offtopic channel of kubuntu called?12:33
pag#kubuntu-offtopic12:33
pagwhippy, but #ubuntu-offtopic is larger and far more active12:33
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fritzcan any1 tell me where 2 find amule servers?12:33
fritzcause it won't load any servers from it's default list12:34
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meuhlolfritz: hi wait12:34
fritzmeuhlol12:35
whippythanks12:35
fritzcan't find the url to paste in that field ....12:36
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meuhlolfritz: take server.met file from emule :)12:37
meuhlolit's the same12:37
fritzwhere can i get it from?12:38
meuhlolRazorback2 server: 195.245.244.243:466112:39
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meuhlolfritz: http://ocbmaurice.dyndns.org/pl/slist.pl/server.met?download/server-max.met12:40
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meuhlolamule is just a client for GNU/Linux system, but servers are the same as eMule for windows, so look for servers from emule12:41
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fritzthnx meuhlol12:42
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meuhlolfritz: you're welcome :)12:43
Daisuke-Idopeople still use emule?12:44
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meuhlolDaisuke-Ido: not me :) torrent & usenet :p12:44
Daisuke-Idoamen12:44
Daisuke-Idoto both12:44
fritzis usenet free meuhlol?12:44
meuhlollol12:44
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meuhlolfritz: no :)12:44
Daisuke-Idoyes or no12:44
Daisuke-Idobut you get what you pay for12:45
meuhloljust some refferers are free12:45
fritzso you pay 4 downloads ? ^.^12:45
Daisuke-Idomine's free12:45
Daisuke-Idoverizon's got a halfway decent usenet server12:45
meuhlolDaisuke-Ido: i have an free acces with my ISP, but it's limited in bandwich by week & many times nzb are not complete12:45
Daisuke-Idobut if you want ultra quality, you have to pay12:45
meuhloli prefer giganews12:45
Daisuke-Idomeuhlol: like i said, it's pretty nice here, but giga > *12:46
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Daisuke-Ido$25 a month for unlimited12:46
meuhlolfritz: yes, but 700mb in 10 minuts on your hard drive it's great ;)12:46
meuhlolgiganews france make an great offer for 19?12:47
fritzmeuhlol. i downloaded the list.met12:47
fritznow where do i put it?12:47
meuhlolunlimited and secured connexions (anonymous too) ;)12:47
Daisuke-Ido19 euro?12:47
meuhlolfritz: you have normally an text input with something like: add server, put .met file url into ats all normally :)12:47
meuhloles12:48
meuhlolyes12:48
meuhlolhuh sorry 20dollars :s12:50
fritzum...went 2 site and downloaded a servers.met file...12:50
meuhlol19.99$12:50
fritzi don;t have an url:-/12:50
Daisuke-Idoactually, that's about right, right around $2712:50
meuhlolfritz: put http://ocbmaurice.dyndns.org/pl/slist.pl/server.met?download/server-max.met in "add server" text input12:50
meuhlolDaisuke-Ido: https://fr.giganews.com/signup/?account=PERS-DIA-MO::1 special offer: 20 simultaneous connexions! + SSL and more :)12:50
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meuhlolfritz: you work or not?12:50
fritzi don't think i'm doing it right..12:51
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meuhlolfritz: cuz it's better to use usenet ;) for 20$ you have an unlimited downloads with a really great speed (you can use all force of your download) if your max DL is 2MB/Sec so you will have it :)12:52
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fritzyey12:52
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fritzit worked, i just didn't push the "download list " button i'm affraid :">12:52
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meuhlollol12:53
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meuhlolops please kick that as*h*** of botter :'(12:53
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fritzyey, another window feature overtaken ^.^12:53
meuhlol=)12:54
fritzthnx again meuhlol12:54
meuhlolfritz: you are always welcome :)12:54
meuhlolfritz: but why you use mule systems? it's too slow! :S12:55
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fritzwell it works ok 4 me and you can find rare stuff on them...12:57
fritzmeuhlol12:57
meuhlolfritz: i found 9912:57
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meuhlol9% of what i want at torrents :)12:57
neko:>12:57
meuhlol99.9% *12:57
meuhlolmost at torrentreactor.net12:57
meuhloland http://torrents.ru/12:58
meuhlolxD12:58
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PetPowhi01:02
PetPowi have a live cd - where on the cd is the OS located?01:02
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PetPowi dont want to boot from it01:02
PetPowi want to copy the files off onto my computer :p01:02
meuhlolPetPow: you want install?01:02
PetPowno01:02
PetPow<PetPow> i want to copy the files off onto my computer :p01:03
meuhlolPetPow: os is all CD dude01:03
PetPowso if im making an iso01:03
PetPowi stick everything in?01:03
PetPoweven all the windoze stuff?01:03
meuhlolPetPow: it's work like that: you run LiveCD you can test (many times is as) if want install you have an icone at LiveCD Desktop named "Install"01:03
meuhlolhuh01:04
meuhlolyou mean LiveCD of linux or an Live of windows? you know... windows also exists in LiveCD :)01:04
PetPowi was recommended if i want to run kubuntu in vmware faster i make an .iso of my cd01:04
PetPowits a cd i got from ship it01:04
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meuhlolit's an CD of linux, you can run it as LiveCD or Install it, it's your own choice, and infact it doesn't concerns windows at all01:05
PetPowit has a load of windows stuff on it - says "OpenCD" on the icon01:06
meuhlolPetPow: and if you want an faster LiveCD, for a speed, the best is Knoppix, but in install mode Knoppix sux... so for install is better (K)ubuntu, for LiveCD Knoppix01:06
PetPowi *dont want to install*01:07
meuhlolwhen you open what you see?01:07
PetPowi want to make an .iso of it so i can run it in vmware01:07
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fritzmeuhlol...how do you run a kill command in konsole?01:07
tiboya des francais ici?01:08
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meuhlolfritz:  you are in console?01:08
meuhloltibo oui01:09
meuhloltibo: mais le chan francais est #kubuntu-fr01:09
tibook ok jai du mal avec linux...ok ok dsl01:09
meuhlolPetPow: make an iso and try :)01:09
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fritzfrostwire jammed and i want to terminate it01:10
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meuhlolfritz: you need to know PID of processus01:11
fritz:-/01:12
meuhloltape that fritz: kill -l01:12
meuhlolafter : kill <PID>01:12
meuhlolops wait01:12
fritznot good:P01:13
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stdinfritz: try "ps aux| grep frostwire" to try and find the pid01:14
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fritzit didn't show any pid:-/01:15
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meuhlolfritz: kill -9 -1 (kill al processus that you can kill) xD01:15
stdinthat would also log you out (forceably)01:15
MaTiAz!ntfs-3g01:15
MaTiAzHmm01:15
MaTiAzoh, ubotu's gone :D01:15
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fritzum....don't want to shut down everything, just frostwire01:16
stdinfritz: I think frostwire is a java app, so try "ps aux|grep java"01:16
fritzi take it there's no end task command here:P01:16
PetPowlol01:16
stdinfritz: can you still see the GUI?01:17
meuhloli suppose in console mode you can't do CTRL+ESCAPE ? xD01:17
fritzi hit ctrl escape01:19
fritzand did the kill frostwire01:19
fritzbut it didn;t close...01:19
stdinuse xkill to close it, run the command "xkill" and click on the window01:19
meuhlolfritz: ctrl + escape then look PID of frost01:20
meuhlolafter ctrl + alt + f1 and kill -9 -<pid>01:21
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stdinwhy would you need to switch to tty1 to kill it?01:21
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meuhlolnot need but i have some manners, dunno why01:23
MaTiAzHey, if I don't want to mount certain NTFS partitions in read-write mode, I just replace the ntfs-3g option in /etc/fstab with the regular ntfs?01:24
stdinMaTiAz: you mean read-only?01:25
MaTiAzyeah01:25
stdinMaTiAz: you can just replace ntfs-3g with ntfs, or just add "ro" to the options01:25
MaTiAzstdin: ok, thanks :)01:26
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RyarenHow can I change TwinView metamodes without Xrestar???01:26
meuhlolRyaren: think can just "live" test at grub boot, no?01:27
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Ryarenwhat?01:27
Ryareni don't unerstand u01:27
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meuhlolwhen you boot, in grub menu press "e" you can edit boot options without save it01:29
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Ryarenboot options?01:29
meuhlolyep01:29
meuhlolyou use Grub i think? not lilo?01:30
RyarenI want to change or stop TwinView without X restart01:30
meuhloloh sorry01:30
Ryaren:)01:30
Ryarenmaybe u misunerstood me :)01:30
meuhlolit wasn't for you, excuse me, just "bad reading" :)01:30
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Ryarenand do u know how can i do it?01:30
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meuhlolnop, never has dual screen (just one time at windows xD when composing music)01:33
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gabrisdfyh01:41
meuhlolgabris: oO01:41
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gabiihello02:02
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danixhola02:18
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cjsstablesNeed a little help.  running kubuntu 7.04.  Can't get graphics extended to 1920x1200.  Have a dell 2405 FPW capable of 1920x1200 and a Intel 950GM graphics card.  any help here02:21
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Daisuke-Idotime to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, sounds like02:22
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cjsstablesdid that already.  does not show my grhaphics card in list.  have selected i810 and vesa both for driver and configured custom monitor with settings. still no luck02:24
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zander_hi @all02:25
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cjsstablesdoes anyone know how I get the latest xorg server installed on my box?02:25
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naught101does anyone know how I can remove the kubuntu "power manager" from the system tray permanently?02:44
naught101I want to replace it with kpowersave02:44
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gabiihello, i just installled kubuntu fiesty, i'm a noob. need a little help02:46
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gabiihello, i just installled kubuntu fiesty, i'm a noob. need a little help02:47
naught101just ask your question02:47
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gabiii can't seem to get my usb hdd to work02:49
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zander_hey wich instant mager should i use for icq?02:51
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zander_*manager02:52
naught101zander_: pidgin/gaim works for me02:52
zander_ok thx02:53
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zander_i search for a download^^02:53
pagzander_, sudo apt-get install theNameOfTheProgramm02:53
SlimeyPetezander_: it's available via Adept02:53
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SlimeyPetezander_: don't search the web for a download. Always install via Adept if possible.02:53
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zander_ok02:56
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sitohellow03:01
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sitoi can put compiz fusion with the command compiz --replace03:01
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sitobut, for put the desktop without compiz?03:02
sitowhat is the command?03:02
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gabiii have a ntfs formatted usb hddand i can't open it03:02
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brokenthornI can't wait for KDE4 and Plasma03:03
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naught101gabii: create a directory somewhere, then run "mount /dev/sdxX -t ntfs /your/dir", where /dev/sdxX is you HDD's device (ie. /dev/sdb1)03:06
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naught101actually, you probably should type "mount -t ntfs /dev/sdxX /your/dir"03:07
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gabiiok thnx03:09
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Silent_Ghello03:11
neko__hi03:11
zander_hi03:11
Silent_Gkubuntu is giving me this error, configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables03:11
Silent_Gcan somebody tell me why? O_o03:11
Frigabii just download Automatix and tick on the NTFS read/write plugin it just works fine. At least in my system.. I can even write on my NTFS disk03:11
neko__u must install03:11
neko__compilator03:11
Silent_Gcompilator :O03:11
neko__g++ and c++03:12
neko__add/delete programs03:12
neko__search03:12
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Ryarenhi03:12
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gabiifri: how do i download and install automatix?03:12
RyarenDoes sby know how can i disable TwinView without X restart?03:12
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Frigabii: give me a sec03:13
gabiithanx03:13
meuhlolSilent_G: when it show this error?03:13
neko__how i can check fglx03:13
neko__?03:13
Silent_Gwhen i tried to ./configure in cedega03:13
gabiii was reading the restricted formatsthat i canplay in ubuntu, which one should i install so i can play divx/xvid/matroska?03:14
Silent_Gso i just need to install g++03:14
Silent_G?03:14
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FriGabii: on http://www.getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Installation you'll find all the instructions you need. It's very simple.03:16
gabiithanx fri:03:17
Frigabii: you have to take step by step. Just open a terminal window and copy step 1 echo "deb http://www.getautomatix.com/apt feisty main" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list into it03:18
Fristep 2 wget http://www.getautomatix.com/keys/automatix2.key03:18
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Frisorry again step 1 echo "deb http://www.getautomatix.com/apt feisty main" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list03:19
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gabiifri: thanx03:19
Fristep 2 wget http://www.getautomatix.com/keys/automatix2.key03:19
Fristep 3 gpg --import automatix2.key03:19
Fristep 4 gpg --export --armor E23C5FC3 | sudo apt-key add -03:20
Fristep 5 sudo apt-get update03:20
Fristep 6 sudo apt-get install automatix203:20
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Frigabii: Automatix includes a couple of media player and codecs and windows TTF03:21
Friis'T quite usefull03:21
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gabiithanx03:21
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Frigabii: you're welcome03:21
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Silent_Gcan someone tell me which driver is best to use for ATI radeon card? ATI or Radeon driver?03:23
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unknown_777hello excuse me how can I update my just installed kubutu?03:25
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unknown_777hello excuse me how can I update my just installed kubuntu?03:26
unknown_777found03:27
gabiifri: i was reading the restricted formatsthat i canplay in ubuntu, which one should i install so i can play divx/xvid/matroska?03:27
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Frigabii: as soon as you've installed Automatix just install all codec's. I can read anything DIVX, XVID, AVI, MPG, WMV03:29
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spartakohi03:31
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gabiihow about matroska?03:31
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Miluxhow i can install amarok 1.4.6 on ubuntu feisty? there are any reposities?03:34
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Frigabii: sorry I'm not sure but I believe it should work to. Just try you can always uninstall the codecs you don't want03:34
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gabiifri: i installed italready but i can'tseem to find it03:34
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Frigabii: if you open Automatix you should find the codec on the left site second from above03:36
gabiii can't open automatix.. i cna't seem to find where it is03:36
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Fridid you take all six steps in order?03:37
crdlbFri, don't recommend automatix please03:37
gabiiyes03:37
Frithat strange03:37
Friwhat is the error message03:37
RyarenWhat log is consist of the infos about restarting and shutting down?03:37
gabiino error. i can't seem to find where it is so i can'topen it03:38
RyarenWhich log contains the infos about restarting and shutting down?03:39
crdlbgabii, you really don't want to03:39
dromeris there any good linux software for pda's ?03:39
crdlbthere's nothing that you can't install without it03:39
gabiiok..03:39
Ryarensby know the answer of my question?03:41
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BluesKajHowdy all03:43
RyarenWhich log contains the infos about restarting and shutting down?03:43
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BluesKajmy little luv affair with VMware server is over , it doesn't do what i want it to do so i'd like to uninstall it , but that isn't so easily done in the pkg managers. I've searched the forums , but I haven't found any cmnds or tutorials that work ...any suggestions ?03:45
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CaBlGuY!frostwire03:55
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire03:55
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zander_wich software i need to install for working with java on kubuntu04:01
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RyarenWhich log contains the infos about restarting and shutting down?04:01
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zander_compiler an things like that04:01
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iarwain_hiya, anyone know why i am getting a mount error (Mounting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed: no such file or directory) with this guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootToRAM ?04:06
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joakimHi! Im having trouble extracting a .7z file. When trying to extract with Archive Manager it says "Archive type not supported"04:12
joakimIs there a better tool for extracting .7z files or is it possible that my file is damaged?04:12
joakimAm I asking in the wrong place?04:14
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zander_dunno cant help you here because iam new to kubuntu04:17
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zander_and want to learn some thing^^04:17
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aaroncampbellDoes anyone else have a problem with firefox not opening mailto: links?  It doesn't seem to trigger Thunderbird at all.04:18
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kamagatosis there someone here who speaking english?04:19
aaroncampbellmurak: I don't think anything on kubuntu supports a 7 zip file by default04:19
kamagatoswho speak french?04:19
BluesKajaaroncampbell, systemsettings/default applications04:19
aaroncampbellkamagatos: #kubuntu-fr04:19
kamagatosok thank04:19
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tapanimhow remove folders which doesn't have size and owner?04:20
aaroncampbellBluesKaj: looks like Email Client is set to "Use a different email client:"  and has "mozilla-thunderbird" in the box04:21
kamagatoslog as root04:21
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Ryarenre04:21
kamagatosput something in and remove04:21
tapanimkamagatos: but that folder really doesn't exist...04:21
tapanimis there but isn't there04:22
Ryarenso Which log file contains the infos about restarting and shutting down? Because my system is freezing when I want to restart or shut down my computer...04:22
dromerhmm:  A previous installation of a VMware product has been detected.  << I already ran  vmware-uninstall.pl  but it didn't work, apperantly I have to purge the entire install, how do I do this?04:22
BluesKajaaroncampbell, copy and paste this into the box' thunderbird %u '04:22
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BluesKajdromer , heh , I'm looking to do the same thing ...difficult to find an uninstall procedure for vmware server04:23
tapanimand when trying to remove gives "rm: cannot remove `Season 2': Input/output error"04:23
dromerbeh, I tried to install vmware-product via different methods .. all failed and now I can't try anything else :S04:24
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zander_now can anyone say wich software i should install for working with java04:25
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icecruncherzander_ : eclipse?04:26
BluesKajdromer, di you try 'sudo vmware-uninstall.pl'  ?04:26
aaroncampbellBluesKaj: still nothing.  However, thunderbird from the command line gives nothing.  I wonder if it's supposed to be mozilla-thunderbird %u04:26
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BluesKajno aaroncampbell , just thunderbird04:26
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aaroncampbellBluesKaj: that didn't work04:27
dromerBluesKaj: tried it, now uninstalling everything with vmware in it in synaptic04:27
dromerBluesKaj: doing complete removal on those packages anyway ..04:27
BluesKajhow did yo install thunderbird aaroncampbell04:27
icecruncherBluesKaj: the package is mozilla thunderbird04:27
aaroncampbelladept04:27
zander_ok i will install eclipse04:27
zander_anything else?04:28
BluesKajyeah dromer , it worked for me too04:28
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aaroncampbellunless it was installed by default with Kubuntu Feisty, in which case...not at all04:28
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BluesKajaaroncampbell, no it isn't installed by default by feisty04:28
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aaroncampbellBluesKaj:  then I used adept.  I've only installed opera and VMware outside of adept.04:29
RyarenHow can i shutdown my computer to see why freezes it?04:30
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BluesKajaaroncampbell, I think installing the tat.gz version does a global install and automatically will run as default in system settings when it chosen.04:31
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BluesKajtar.gz04:31
aaroncampbellBluesKaj: looks like it must be a firefox issue...04:32
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BluesKajwait a sec aaroncampbell ...lemme check something04:32
aaroncampbellBluesKaj: I set the default back to mozilla-thunderbird (what the executable is on my machine), and it works from Konqueror, but not forefox04:32
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dromerBluesKaj: it didn't for me :(04:35
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BluesKajaaroncampbell, so obviously you have FF as your default browser in system settings as well04:38
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aaroncampbellBluesKaj: yes04:38
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zander_hey cant install eclipse04:44
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zander_cant downlaod it from the website04:44
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SlimeyPetezander_: you can install it from Adept04:44
zander_tried it04:44
BluesKajaaroncampbell, I hate to ask the obvious question, but have you set thunderbird as the default client in thunderbird/edit/preferences04:44
zander_but it says it cant fiend it04:45
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SlimeyPetehave you updated your package list recently?04:45
zander_how?04:45
spawn57run adept04:45
SlimeyPetezander_: run adept, click Fetch Updates04:46
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aaroncampbellBluesKaj: I don't even see a "make this default client" option in there04:46
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BluesKajwhich version aaroncampbell ?04:47
zander_ok updating^^04:47
aaroncampbell1.5.0.1204:48
aaroncampbellBluesKaj: but, if Thunderbird isn't set up properly, why do mailto links work in Konqueror?04:49
BluesKajzander_, SlimeyPete,  it's in the deb http://archive.clemsonlinux.org/ feisty main restricted repository04:49
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BluesKajaaroncampbell, good question, I dunno :(04:49
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BluesKajaaroncampbell, I'm using the newest version , try installing it , it has the default option04:50
BluesKajversion 2.0.0.404:51
aaroncampbellBluesKaj: nope...I'll stick with what adept gives me, and wait for someone who knows what's wrong...installing outside the package manager makes things hard in the future (learned the hard way)04:51
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aaroncampbellThanks for all your help though04:51
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aaroncampbellBluesKaj: Actually, I just got it working.  I just manually defined the mailto app ala http://kb.mozillazine.org/Register_protocol04:52
BluesKajbummer ...but I do understand your reluctance , aaroncampbell ... will have to wait for the heavy hitters to show up. They'll know what to do I'm sure :)04:52
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zander_downloaded eclipse how to install it now it is an .gz package04:54
SlimeyPetezander_: ick. Didn't adept work?04:54
Silent_Gplease somebody is available to help me ? iv been asking from yesterday seems like nobody have a solution for my problem but at least somebody can say if there's a solution or not? O_O04:54
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SlimeyPete.gz packages are a last resort04:54
BluesKajaaroncampbell, cool , glad you got it working :)04:54
hatredxfor christ sakes, ask the damn question04:54
SlimeyPeteSilent_G: what problem?04:55
zander_how to say adept is installing some other packages04:55
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Silent_GSlimeyPete, iv got an ATI Radeon card, 7000 (at least what lspci says) iv got Direct Rendering working but no hope  for 3D accelaration... and i want 3D accelaration04:55
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stdinzander_: .gz files are "gzipped", like .zip. use Ark to open/extract it04:56
Silent_Galso there are some weard errors in Xorg.0.log so if you want i can paste it to ya04:56
stdinzander_: then read the README file04:56
zander_ok i do it04:57
hatredxno ati exp here04:57
stdinSilent_G: do you have fglrx?04:57
SlimeyPeteSilent_G: fglrx driver?04:57
SlimeyPeteheh, snap04:57
BluesKajSilent_G, pastebin your  /etc/X11/xorg.conf file04:57
Silent_Gfglrx doesnt work good04:57
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Silent_Git just crashes everything04:57
Silent_Git crashed my pc04:57
stdinSilent_G: no fglrx, no 3D04:57
Silent_Galso im using open source driver04:57
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stdinSilent_G: blame ATI for making horrible drivers04:58
Silent_Gim not using ATI drivers stdin04:58
SlimeyPetethe OSS drivers don't do 3D very well04:58
Silent_Gim using kubuntu's open source drivers04:58
stdinSilent_G: yes, you said it didn't work04:58
stdinSilent_G: but you need the ati drivers for 3D04:58
BluesKajSilent_G, try this tutorial , it works on most ati cards : http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty04:58
Silent_Gand iv read that with open source driver fglrx is not supported right?04:58
crazybusI've converted a bunch of files from ogg vorbis to speex.  Unfortunatly the meta-info didn't transfer over.  Is there a program that can quickly move the meta info on a lot of files at once?04:58
SlimeyPeteSilent_G: you won't get good 3D acceleration without fglrx. If fglrxwon't work, you're stuffed. Email ATI and berate them for making drivers which don't work ;)04:59
Silent_GBluesKaj, , on ati.com there isnt a driver for my card, there is for 7200 but not for 700004:59
zander_Installing the plugin tar.gz using Install script:04:59
zander_   o Unpack the tar.gz file04:59
zander_   o In terminal, navigate to the unpacked directory and enter:04:59
zander_          + $ ./flashplayer-installer04:59
zander_          + Click Enter key and follow prompts04:59
zander_how to do that04:59
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BluesKajSlimeyPete, that kind of comment isn't going to help him04:59
stdinzander_: install the package in adept!04:59
SlimeyPeteBluesKaj: erm, no kind of comment will help. If fglrx won't work then he won't get proper 3D.05:00
stdinBluesKaj: but is true (in this case)05:00
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zander_there are more then 4k packages now xD05:00
BluesKajSilent_G, just try the tutorial i just posted , it might work ...it works for my 200g05:00
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stdinzander_: the flash player one you want is called "flashplugin-nonfree"05:00
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Silent_Gok BluesKaj  i'll try05:00
Silent_Gcan i paste my Xorg.0.log so somebody can read it and explain the errors im getting in it?05:01
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vonhello05:01
stdinSilent_G: post to pastebin and we'll look05:01
Silent_Gok thankz05:01
vonSomeone does know how to close the port 3000 (ppp)?05:02
vonI've already try apt-get remove ppp05:02
SlimeyPetevon: use iptables (hard) or guarddog (easy, so I hear)05:02
Novellvon: check what process is using it05:03
stdinvon: something like "sudo /etc/init.d/ppp stop"05:03
SlimeyPetebasically,you need to set up a firewall if you want to close the port05:03
tapanimhow remove folders which doesn't have size and owner? and when trying to remove gives rm: cannot remove `Season 2': Input/output error05:03
stdinvon: the name "ppp" may be different05:03
stdintapanim: what filesystem?05:03
Silent_Ghere is my Xorg.0.log stdin  and BluesKaj  , it complains about some 3D modes and some AGP things05:03
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tapanimvfat, it's usb hard disk05:04
Novellvon: lsof -i TCP05:04
vonok, i'll try05:04
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tapanimstdin: vfat, it's usb hard disk05:05
stdintapanim: try unmounting it and remounting it, it shouldn't have no owner/size, if it still does then it's a filesystem error and you'll need to run fsck on it05:05
vonNovell: Thanx for the lsof -i TCP. It's what I need05:05
stdinSilent_G: you need to post the URL05:05
Silent_Goh05:05
Silent_Gsorry05:05
Silent_Gi didnt pressed the buttons good :p05:05
Silent_Ghttp://rafb.net/p/MS6Gp369.html05:06
tapanimstdin: i tried to unmount and mount again, it didn't help, trying next with fsck05:06
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tapanimstdin: how should i do it because it gives that warning that should not do for mounted filesystem?05:08
stdinSilent_G: that's because you are using the "radion" driver, which is the open source driver. 3D won't work with it, only the fglrx driver05:08
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Silent_Gok05:09
Silent_Gwell05:09
Silent_Gi'll try BluesKaj 's tutrial05:09
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stdintapanim: you need to unmount it first, run "mount" to see where it's mounted and then "umount /media/USB" (where /media/USB is the place it's mounted)05:09
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BluesKajyes, i see no fglrx driver ...the one in the tutorial is modded and patched and works well on older and onboard type cards05:11
tapanimit's busy? but only irssi is running05:12
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stdintapanim: make sure you don't have any konqueror windows open05:12
SlimeyPetetype "lsof /media/USB" (again, /media/USB is the mountpoint)05:12
SlimeyPetetapanim: ^^05:12
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SlimeyPetethat will show you which processes are uing it05:12
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SlimeyPete*using05:12
stdin(probably konqueror in  preloaded mode)05:13
tapanimje05:13
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tapanimand then run fsck? still same warning?05:14
stdinno, close/kill the process that's using the disk, then unmount, then fsck05:15
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tapanimnever done this before...05:18
tapanimi really doesn't understand what doing....05:19
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vonBeginner question: How to list installed packages?05:19
stdinvon: all of them?05:20
vonyes05:20
stdinvon: dpkg -l05:20
vonstdin: Thanks a lot05:20
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tapanimstdin: how it understand my disk? fsck /dev/sdb1?05:21
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stdintapanim: yeah, but use sudo fsck /dev/sdb105:22
stdintapanim: it should check the partition, and tell you if it finds errors05:22
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tapanimi just started and differences between boot sector and it's backup05:23
tapanimwhat should i do?05:23
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stdinwhat options does it give?05:24
tapanimcopy original, copu backup or do nothing05:24
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stdindo you boot off the disk?05:25
tapanimno05:25
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stdinthen choose "copy original"05:25
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tapanimFATs differ but appear to be intact. choose first or second FAT to use05:26
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stdinI'd say to just pick one05:26
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tapanimok05:26
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tapanimshit05:31
tapanimeverything is now read-only filesystem05:31
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tapanimi can't do anymore anything, because i can't write anywhere05:32
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stonedyeh life sucks05:33
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tapanimstdin: what now?05:33
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dr_willis!iso05:37
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.05:37
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tattersdoes anyone know of a program wich can record and replay mouse events but not xmacro05:48
dr_willis!find record05:48
ubotuFound: cdrecord, libxcb-record0, libxcb-record0-dbg, libxcb-record0-dev, x11proto-record-dev (and 14 others)05:48
dr_willisHmm...05:49
dr_willis!find xmacro05:49
ubotuFound: xmacro05:49
dr_willisnone related.. Bummer.05:49
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dr_willis!find macro05:49
ubotuFound: libapache2-mod-macro, xutils-dev, xmacro05:49
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tattersxmacro seems to be geared towards remote rather than local desktop05:49
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progreSShi all05:50
progreSSdamn05:50
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tattersI used ghost mouse on windows I cannot find similer for linux05:50
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SlimeyPetewhat does it do?05:51
tattersrecored/replay mouse events05:51
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SlimeyPeteoh right. I don't know of anything like that for Linux.05:52
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Novellwe usually do automation with scripts ;)05:52
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tattershmm its a flash web page I need to automate a cpl of button presses and make it run every 5 seconds05:54
tattershow the heck do I go about scripting that05:54
BluesKajdon't you have to do that within flash ?05:54
tattersits not my web site or flash05:55
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walter_hola buenas05:56
walter_alguien sabe donde puedo aprender los comandos de linux05:56
walter_ya que los manuales que lei son muy basicos05:57
BluesKaj!es | walter_05:57
ubotuwalter_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:57
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walter_gracias05:57
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tattersthere is a 500 prize for anyone that plays the most games within a 24 hour period ,therefore it is impossible to lose if I play every game that is available for the 24 hrs the contest runs and my box dont crash05:59
tattershence the need to automate a cpl of button presses on web page05:59
akrushello, could someone tell me if it's possible to input special symbols from keyboard like it's ALT+0153 for (tm) in windows?06:00
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tattersyah windows can do special characters06:00
akrustatters: what about linux? :P06:01
tattersof course, but dont ask me how :)06:02
tatters<---noobunty06:02
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tattersomg just got used to running ubuntu after a weeks sweat pain and tears and for the sake of a simple task I gotta reinstall windows ..06:04
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nuxilhttp://www.pugetsystems.com/submerged.php06:05
Novellakrus: if I can't do it with alt gr + some-key or alt gr + shift + some-key, I use.. wait what was that app called again.. gotta check06:06
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Novellakrus: kcharselect06:06
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Silent_GBluesKaj,06:08
akrusoops so is there any way?06:08
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Novellakrus: kcharselect06:09
Silent_GBluesKaj, iv made what the tutrial you gave me said, but nothing, as soon as i restart X a kubuntu splash image comes up then a blank screen with a white underscore06:09
akrusNovell: cannot copy to Wined3d :(06:09
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akrusNovell: it inserts as "?"06:09
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Novellakrus: dunno, wine doesn't seem to handle non-ASCII that good06:10
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NovellI can't use my national chars in wine f.e.06:11
Novellbut can compose them06:11
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akrusthat sucks :(06:11
akruscause I sometimes have to ban players with this kind of nick names06:11
akrusand i have to use database instead of direct in-game blocking :)06:11
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Silent_GBluesKaj, you're here? :S06:14
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TeraDyneSilent_G: Looks like he's afk.06:16
Silent_Gwell06:16
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Silent_Gsomebody else can help me pleae?06:16
Silent_G:S06:16
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BluesKajSilent_G, sorry to hear that ...I guess the new fglrx driver from ATI is the way to go for your setup06:21
ninHerany active mirror for downloading gutsy gibbon ?06:21
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david__hi, can't seem to find libdvdcss2 in adept... not sure what to do06:26
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dr_willis!dvd06:26
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs06:26
dr_willis!dvdcss06:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dvdcss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:27
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dr_willisIts in the alternative repositories06:27
jhutchins_ltninHer: If you want to participate in testing you should join #ubuntu+106:27
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david__dr_willis, i tried searching for it under dvd or css in adept and it just isn't showing up for me06:28
jhutchins_ltNovell: #wine06:28
ninHerthanks jhutchins_lt.....i'm downlading right now tribe 2 torrent06:28
dr_willis"libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages06:28
dr_willisenavble the Severas repositories06:29
jhutchins_ltninHer: So what is your particular interest in testing?06:29
dr_willisIt might be in the Mediatubuntu repos also. Not sure.06:29
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david__oh thanks06:29
jhutchins_ltdr_willis: or plf06:30
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dr_willisseveras seems to be down..06:31
nuxilHey06:32
dr_willisplf - is that even up? not seen/heard about it in MONTHS...06:32
nuxildr_willis, why cant i use if blocks in rc.local ?06:32
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nuxildr_willis, do ya know?06:33
dr_willisnuxil,  you should be able to.. but  rc.local is being parsed by 'sh' not bash. so dont use bash only features. (would be my guess)06:33
nuxilaha06:33
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nuxilwell i am getting error.. i use if [[ bla bla ] ]  then bla bla06:33
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nuxiland it complains about the [[06:34
dr_willissounds like a bash vs sh (or dash) issue to me06:34
dr_willistry the same constrictun in a seperate script06:35
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dr_willissee if it works with bash, then try with dash.06:35
nuxili know it works in a seperat scrit06:35
dr_willisthen that script MAY be using 'bash' depending on what #!/bin/sh or bash line you got at the top06:35
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dr_willistry it with 'dash' perhaps.06:36
Silent_GBluesKaj, are you bk by any chance?06:36
david__"couldn't find the demux for >dvd:///dev/scd0" --- xine is giving this error.... even after installing css and the other packages ubuntu documentation asks for06:36
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BluesKajyup, here06:36
Silent_Git didnt work man06:36
Silent_G:S06:36
Silent_Gas soon as i make fglrx as Device in Xorg.conf it doesnt start06:37
Silent_Gor worst, a splash image of kubuntu and then a blank screen with a white underscore06:37
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BluesKajyes i saw that , sorry that it didn't work ,.. perhaps the fglrx proprietary driver will work ...but first choose the vesa driver to make your desktop etc work06:38
Silent_Gi chose radeon driver06:38
Silent_Gradeon driver works06:38
Silent_Gright now im in my desktop06:39
Silent_Gso , what i do exacly now?06:39
BluesKajgood, are you running 64bit ?06:39
david__dr_willis, do u know how i can fix the error i posted above?06:39
Silent_Gno, 32bit06:40
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dr_willisdavid__,  not really. YOu are trying to play a DVD disk eh...   /dev/scd0 is correct to the drive?06:40
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dr_willisdavid__,  try vlc?06:40
kosak32siema06:40
kosak32jest ktos z polski06:40
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david__yeah i think it is the correct drive06:41
jtmoney_is there any way to save a wifi passphrase in knetworkmanager WITHOUT using kwallet?06:41
david__will try vlc06:41
jtmoney_(or make kdewallet stop asking me for a password)06:41
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nuxildr_willis, in my rc.local i got #!/bin/sh -e at the top.. should i try replace it with #!/bin/bash ?? Do you think that will work?06:42
Silent_GBluesKaj, ? :O06:45
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BluesKajSilent_G, the only thing i can suggest is to go to the ati site and try to find a driver for your card06:47
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eboxnethello ppl06:47
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ASmith42bWhere did my trash bin go? It isn't on the desktop or in the panel.06:47
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eboxnetdoes anybody have a prob with HAL ? (i don't know if this is the right place to ask)06:48
Silent_GBluesKaj, i cant find a driver for 7000 anywhere on their site06:48
Silent_Gi think im out of like :S06:48
Silent_G*luck06:48
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david__thanks dr willis, vlc is working fine06:49
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daquinowhy is there no /etc/modules.conf ?06:51
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eboxnetnobody ? :p06:54
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varaonaiddr_willis: are you around?06:54
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dr_willisnuxil,  try it and see06:54
dr_willisyes.. on phone06:54
zipper!vpn06:54
ubotuFrom more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD06:54
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blekoshi, i want to copy a file to my windows directory which is run via vmware06:55
blekoshow can i do that?06:55
varaonaiddr_willis: oh, hi!  i have a quick question for you... i setup the shared partition with the folder that i have r/w access to and it works great for most things...but several programs can't write to it... gime, digikam, etc06:55
zipperi want to create a connection to my school's vpn server. How is that done in linux? The guide seems to be for setting up vpn servers06:55
jtmoney_blekos: i would use openssh06:55
jtmoney_sudo apt-get install openssh-server i think06:56
varaonaiddr_willis: what permissions do I need to setup to change that?06:56
BluesKajSilent_G, the "Radeon driver" on the VE/7000 seems to be the only one available for Linux06:56
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jtmoney_then get putty/scp binaries for the xp box and login to your kubuntu install06:56
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Silent_Gwhat do you mean BluesKaj ?06:56
Silent_Gonly an open source driver is available and no hope for 3D?06:56
Silent_G:|06:56
BluesKajSilent_G, there may be some other hacks out there06:57
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Silent_Gwell im not good at searching :S06:58
dr_willisvaraonaid,  i always use samba, to share stuff to my vmware machines.06:58
dr_willisor use ssh/winscp06:58
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varaonaiddr_willis: it's a shared partition on my main hdd06:58
varaonaidfor dual booting purposes06:58
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varaonaidi setup the folder with r/w permissions for my username06:59
varaonaidwhich worked great except for program access06:59
dr_willisa actual physical partition. You need to mount it properly.06:59
varaonaidit's showing that it's mounted in /media06:59
varaonaidi can see all files, just not write to them from programs06:59
dr_willischeck the output of mount, see how its mounted06:59
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dr_willisif its ntfs - you need to be using ntfs-3g to write to it.06:59
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varaonaiddr_willis: /dev/sda6 on /media/sda6 type ext3 (rw)07:00
Luc_Aylesbury{cc:#ubuntu} Hi Folks, is anyone aware of a means to change the default file handler from konqueror to dolphin?07:00
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varaonaiddr_willis: it's not, it's ext307:00
varaonaidprograms still can't write to it07:00
Silent_GBluesKaj, is it posible that the 7100 and 7200 are compatible?07:01
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pagLuc_Aylesbury, right click on a folder, choose "open with" find dolphin and tick the "use always"-box07:01
dr_willisvaraonaid,   i always set up a directory On the partiton, and chown/chmod it to be owned by the user i want accessing the drive.07:01
dr_willisi DONT let the users access the 'root' of the drive07:02
dr_willisthen its just a matter of normal filesystem permissions on the dir/files07:02
varaonaiddr_willis: i did that, chowned it to my username for both user and group but programs still can't write to it07:02
dr_willisdouble check.07:02
dr_willisI do it that way all the time.07:02
varaonaidok07:02
crocodileWhen I watch movies in VLC with compiz running, the picture is transparent.  This is really annoying...07:03
dr_willisdrwxr-xr-x 13 willis willis  4096 2007-07-08 22:15 willis07:03
BluesKajSilent_G, yes , since my x200 driver works on several other cards in the same series07:03
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Silent_Ghmm07:03
Silent_Gok then07:03
Silent_Gi'll give a try to the 7100 and 720007:04
Silent_Gif it doesnt work i'll end up on vista again :(07:04
varaonaiddr_willis: i checked, my user is both owner and group and i even added write permission for group, still didn't work for programs to write to it...07:04
BluesKajno harm in trying Silent_G , you can always get back to your desktop with the command : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:05
dr_willissee if the user can write to it from the shell..07:05
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Silent_Gheh07:05
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Silent_GBluesKaj, will you believe me if i'd tell ya iv been trying 4months to get 3D accel?07:06
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strabesSilent_G: not if you have an ATI card07:06
Silent_GBluesKaj,  2different chipsets, and this ATI Card, and didnt work07:06
strabesSilent_G: i mean i would believe you07:06
BluesKajyes, Silent_G  , i had a helluva time getting my card setup right too :(07:06
Silent_GBluesKaj, one day  you even helped me with my VIA K8m890 if you remember07:07
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strabesapparently ATI is "working" on composite support for fglrx07:07
Silent_Ganyways i'll see ya later gotta start trying and hoping07:07
sam123Kmix is now not displaying the pcm slider. Does anybody know how to restore it?07:07
Silent_Gthanks for all the help07:07
BluesKajstrabes, I'm not holding my breath :P07:07
strabesBluesKaj: me neither, unfortunately. I'm not a big fan of XGL so i'm using the boring default now07:08
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sam123im using compiz fusion :D its well fast comapred to beryl07:08
sam123but resizing windows is still laggy07:08
varaonaiddr_willis: yes, my user can write to the file on the partition...maybe the problem is with the group?07:08
Grahamsam123: Fuck yes07:08
dr_willisvaraonaid,  my group is the same as my user.. what group are you using?>07:09
BluesKajstrabes, I'm just happy my crappy card does what it used to do in windows ... like google earth etc07:09
sam123Graham dont use swear words please there may be children about07:09
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varaonaiddr_willis: same as my user as well07:09
sam123Graham Fuck yes to what anyway?07:09
strabesBluesKaj: yeah, fglrx is decent for 3d07:09
GrahamCompiz Fusion.07:09
sam123ah i thought you knew the solution to my sound mixing problem :(07:10
sam123Kmix is now not displaying the pcm slider. Does anybody know how to restore it?07:10
BluesKaj!language | gents pls07:10
ubotugents pls: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.07:10
GrahamI have an ATI card, radeon 9800xt pro, runs fglrx, works with composite and runs compiz fusion07:10
sam123i dont have a master volume slider07:10
strabesGraham: using XGL?07:10
ubuntu_sam123: right-click inside the Kmix window and select "Channels"07:10
GrahamYup07:10
sam123ati, fglrx and xgl runs composite slowly07:11
BluesKajsam123, in the terminal ' alsamixer '07:11
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strabesGraham: that's what I thought. XGL is slow & unstable compared to aiglx07:11
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GrahamI don't know how to run compiz fusion on aiglx07:11
sam123Ubuntu_ i did that and there isnt a master or pcm one there07:11
GrahamBut on XGL it's sort of a "just works" thing07:12
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strabesGraham: in what way07:12
sam123BluesKaj i still dont have a master or pcm channel maybe my config is wrong?07:12
GrahamAs in I installed it, turned composite on, and it worked.07:12
BluesKajsam123, have you check sound system in system settings ?07:13
BluesKajerr checked07:13
sam123BluesKaj can you pastebin the default /etc/asound.conf file please because i once modified it and lost the backup07:13
GrahamOnly issue is that it doesn't run my opengl apps properly and right clicking doesn't work.07:13
GrahamBut it stilll looks awesome.07:13
crocodileWhen I watch movies in VLC with compiz running, the picture is transparent.  This is really annoying... how do I fix it?07:13
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GrahamI show it to all the bitches.07:13
GrahamThey love it.07:13
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sam123BluesKaj sound system is off but im positive that thats not the problem since ive had it off for years07:13
GrahamInfact, I'm gona start it now, brb07:14
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XarrosBonsoir07:14
Xarrossorry07:14
sam123crocodile i know the solution i fixed it myself earlier07:14
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crocodilegood, can you tell me?07:14
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sam123crocodile you mean the compiz fusion right?07:14
crocodileyes07:15
sam123ok start the compizconfig settings manager07:15
sam123click general options07:15
sam123crocodile then opacity settings and remote unknown07:15
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sam123also try removing fullscreen if its there07:15
varaonaiddr_willis: figured it out!!  some of the folders that i moved in there from an external hdd had had their permissions changes to root so i changed all of them to user and now it works!! thanks for your help :)07:16
dr_willisvaraonaid,  thats what chmod -R is all about. :)07:16
crocodilesam123 - I don't see remote unknown07:16
dr_willis:)07:16
K-RyanI'm having some serious trouble with my xorg.conf right now. I had it regenerated last time I was on here and now that I rebooted, about 3/5 of my monitor is actually used, and a whole 1/5 of that is just blank space.07:16
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varaonaiddr_willis: i'm not familiar with that one yet but obviously need to check it out!  again...thanks :)07:17
sam123crocodile did you use the command 'ccsm'?07:17
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dr_willissudo chown -R username.username  *      :) or similer..  chmod if the modes are wrong.07:17
K-Ryan!xorg07:17
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:17
crocodilesam123 - I'm in the compiz config manager yeah, and in general -> opacity, but I don't see remote unknown..07:17
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GrahamI need to restart x first... having issues/07:18
crocodileI can see ((type=Unknown | more options | more options | more options |)  in the opacity windows settings07:18
sam123remove unknown07:18
sam123that may fix it07:19
crocodileoh remove, duh. Silly typos :P07:19
sam123sorry07:19
sam123crocodile did it work then?07:20
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sam123!asound07:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about asound - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:20
crocodilesam123 - that did it man thanks07:20
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sam123!asound.conf07:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about asound.conf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:20
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sam123crocodile np im glad to be useful for once :D could you pastebin your /etc/asound.conf for me please?07:21
wkhello - does someone know the packet sources for the latest kde version in ubuntu dapper (6.06) ?07:21
BluesKajstrange sam123 , can't locate that file07:21
BluesKaj!.asoundrc07:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about asoundrc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:21
bretzelHi all -- Where the hell is KDevelop-3.4.1 ???? what's going wrong with this one ? cannot find it nowhere ???? ( 3,4,0 keeps crashing on my face )07:21
sam123BluesKaj are you using alsa?07:21
sam123BluesKaj i edited my asoundrc too07:21
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sam123/brb07:22
crocodilesam123 - sorry mate I dont have an asound.conf07:22
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kerb_hi folks, just new comer.07:22
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bretzelWhere is KDevelop-3.4.1???07:23
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Silent_GBluesKaj,  is it posible to downgrade Xorg to 7.1 on kubuntu?07:23
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BluesKajdunno Silent_G ....gents ?07:23
Silent_Ggents?07:23
Silent_GO_o07:23
BluesKajsam123,http://www.pcauthority.com.au/print.aspx?CIID=21424&SIID=1007:24
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Silent_Gcause the ati driver for 7100 is only for xorg 7.107:24
Silent_G:|07:24
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BluesKajSilent_G, maybe some one else here has done what you are asking07:24
Silent_Ghmm07:24
crocodilehow do I make VLC open movies in the same instance of VLC when it's running, instead of opening a new copy and playing 2 movies at once?07:24
Silent_Gsome body know how to downgrade xorg to 7.1 please?07:24
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SkorpKingman aptitude. it might have a downgrade option for packages. not sure07:26
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Silent_Gok i will07:26
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Luc_Aylesburypag, thank you so much!07:30
pagLuc_Aylesbury, np :)07:30
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Luc_Aylesburypag although right-click open with dolphin just opens dolphin just opens dolphin straight away07:32
Luc_Aylesburyit doesn't give me the option of "Always use dolphin"07:32
Luc_AylesburyI try open with -> other07:32
Luc_Aylesburyand put dolphin in the box07:33
pagLuc_Aylesbury, yeah, I know... I just typed the instructions fast, without any checking on how good they in fact were07:33
pagLuc_Aylesbury, so sorry about that.07:33
Luc_Aylesburypag, ah ok :)07:33
Luc_Aylesburypag, I hope that there is a workaround :D07:33
Luc_Aylesburypag I found the workaround07:35
pagLuc_Aylesbury, if you'll open it with "open with other" and choose the dolpin (it's really better to choose than just to type) and tick the "remember application assosiation.." -box it'll work 100%07:35
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Luc_Aylesburypag I found the true workaround :)07:35
Luc_Aylesburypag,  you must go to konqueror preferences07:35
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pagLuc_Aylesbury, yeah, that's another way :)07:35
Luc_Aylesburypag, and then change the applicaton preference order for inode / directory07:36
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Luc_Aylesburypag, so dolphin is at the top07:36
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Luc_Aylesburynow all clicks on kdesktop will open dolphin so I'm very happy - thank you pag !07:36
eloquesup people07:36
jhutchins_ltIt's also more likely that you'll get the "remember this association" checkbox if you right-click or shift- right-click on a local file than on a remote link.07:36
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eloquedoes anybody know of a program for kde similar to netlimiter in windows?07:36
jhutchins_lt(WTF is "dolphin" anyway?)07:36
jhutchins_lt!info dolphin07:37
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ubotudolphin: File manager for KDE focusing on usability. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 1251 kB, installed size 2252 kB07:37
eloquei have a system monitor that is showing higher traffic than the progras that i am using are reporting07:37
jhutchins_ltLuc_Aylesbury: You might also be able to set that in kde components under kcontrol.07:37
Luc_Aylesburyjhutchins, thank you it is quite likely also :)07:38
jhutchins_lteloque: That's called overhead.07:38
Luc_Aylesbury:)07:38
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eloquewell its quite a bit of overhead07:38
eloque:)07:38
jhutchins_lteloque: You'll need to delve into some console tools like netstat to figure it out.07:38
jhutchins_lteloque: Possibly also use a packet sniffer.07:39
eloquei only have two programs that are using the net07:39
eloqueone is azureus the other is aMSN07:39
eloquewell and now xchat07:39
eloqueheh07:39
jhutchins_lteloque: Oh, bittorrent has LOTS of spurious traffic, and most clients only report the actual transfer rate.07:39
eloquethere is no graphical interface i can use to limit programs' traffic?07:40
eloqueok07:40
jhutchins_lteloque: You might be interested in pidgin (formerly gaim) and kopete for msn.07:40
jhutchins_lteloque: I doubt it.07:40
eloquewow07:40
eloquei woulda thought there were dozens07:40
jhutchins_lteloque: It would be done on the kernel/iptables level, which is all textually controlled.07:40
pageloque, or kmess, if you want a KDE-app primarly focused on MSN07:40
eloqueas utility programs for linux usually come in the dozens07:40
eloquehmm k07:41
pageloque, iirc. there's a way to limit azureus' traffic from inside the app itself07:41
jhutchins_lteloque: It usually requires sufficient knowledge of what you're doing that it tends to stay in the console realm.07:41
eloqueyea i have azureus limited07:41
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jhutchins_lteloque: Most linux users aren't willing to blindly trust someone else's choices for such essential functions, thank goodness.07:41
eloqueat 8kbps07:41
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eloquejhutchins, good point07:42
eloqueus winkiddies on the otherharn07:42
eloquehand07:42
eloquewe pass out trust by the kilp07:42
eloquekilo07:42
jhutchins_lteloque: You're not quite getting this.  What azureus reports and limits by is not total traffic generated by the bittorrent process.  There's a lot of background function happening.07:42
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gss6does anyone know an easy way to use the mozilla rendering engine in konqueor?07:42
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eloquejust have a nice website with aqua and green themes and a decent looking "ok" button and we press it07:43
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jhutchins_lteloque: All you limit is the outbound file transfer bandwidth, not the handshaking, the slice tracking, the seeding, the tracker monitoring, etc.07:43
D_Centhi07:43
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D_Centhow can i play midi-files with kubuntu?07:43
eloquei totally understood what he said jhutchins  thanks07:43
jhutchins_ltD_Cent: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo07:44
eloqueand i get now what u mean by the overhead07:44
D_Centthanks07:44
jhutchins_lteloque: Sorry, I should have been clearer.07:44
jhutchins_lteloque: Good idea to read up on what all goes on during bittorent operation so you'll be able to spot actual potential problems and hacking.07:45
eloquethanks a bunch07:45
jhutchins_lteloque: The background/overhead stuff is one of the things that different clients handle more or less efficiently, leading some to be "better" than others.07:45
eloqueand 4ill check otu the new gaim07:45
BluesKajgss6 , try konqueror configure / browser ID07:46
eloqueif only my webcam worked with linux i would be a permanent user07:46
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eloquebut i gotta get a new cam before that happens07:46
gss6not the browser ID..the actual rendering engine07:46
eloquei found my BT downloads are so much better in linux07:46
eloquewindows has tooo much overhead07:46
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sam123BluesKaj thanks for the link its got some useful information07:47
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gss6BluesKaj: im converting from gnome and the only thing holding me back from full kde integration is i find khtml is kinda slow on many sites07:47
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FireHazard17he wants to use geckoon konqeror?07:48
FireHazard17i just installed firefox07:48
eloqueff > *07:48
gss6well, i read theres a kpart for using gecko within konqueror07:48
gss6but i cannot find very much info on it07:49
gss6and it is pretty old new07:49
gss6s07:49
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gss6let me stress im new to kde07:50
BluesKajgss6, whynot just use fireFox ?07:51
SkorpKingdoes anyone know the vodacom settings to connect a 3G modem in South Africa? i'm so sick of my M$ box! google links help but not enough!07:52
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FireHazard17broadcom?07:52
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gss6BluesKaj: because 2 web browsers is overhead07:52
Shaezschehow do i check how much free space is available on my hD?07:52
SkorpKingdf07:53
gss6df -h07:53
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SkorpKingor mount :)07:53
FireHazard17in kde4 the file browser will be seperate so you can unmerge konqeror and replace it with firefox07:53
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gss6lol, but im running 3.5 and dont plan on switching to 4 for at least a year after release most likely07:54
FireHazard17why?07:54
FireHazard17stability?07:54
BluesKajgss6, http://64.233.167.104/linux?q=cache:SrLZn_DJW_UJ:searchenterpriselinux.techtarget.com/searchEnterpriseLinux/downloads/tdlinux_ch02.pdf+gecko+within+konqueror&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&lr=lang_en|lang_fr07:55
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gss6BluesKaj: that isnt what im looking for07:57
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vishamhi folks07:57
vishamnmap breaks down my net connection pls help07:58
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K-Ryan!restore07:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about restore - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:59
K-Ryan!backup07:59
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning07:59
vishami type 'nmap -sS -T4 -O <host>' and after a few seconds my internet connecton breaks down07:59
andy_hallo07:59
andy_halloechen08:00
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=== jhutchins_lt can't imagine having to use firefox for everything. Bleh.
jhutchins_ltFor me it's a last resort if a page won't work in konq.08:06
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Squirrely_WrathAnyone have a suggestion on a good gnutella p2p application?08:10
jhutchins_ltSquirrely_Wrath: pidgin or kopete?08:10
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Ryarenhi!08:11
RyarenHow can I make a script to xrestart?08:11
jhutchins_ltSquirrely_Wrath: Or is that p2p file stuff>08:11
jhutchins_lt?08:11
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Squirrely_Wrathp2p.  Kinda like limewire, but NOT limewire. lol08:12
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rogerhi08:13
jhutchins_lt!p2p | Squirrely_Wrath08:13
ubotuSquirrely_Wrath: Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.08:13
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Squirrely_Wrathah, thanks08:14
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sam123does anybody know where i can download a pcm encoded wav file so that i can test my alsa setup?08:14
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ContrastGreets, everyone08:15
fliker-09greets to everyone08:15
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ContrastAny ideas why tab completion wouldn't be working for anything following "sudo"?08:16
jhutchins_ltContrast: Has to do with the possible completing sequences.  Try doing the command first, then inserting sudo.08:16
sam123I love tab completion its so useful :D08:16
varaonaidhi, i'm trying to get the dell 355 bluetooth adapter to work and from what i've read i need to have the hci_usb module loaded but it isn't...i'm wondering where i get that and how i load it?08:16
tContrast: It's not supposed to really..08:16
jhutchins_ltsam123: How about the emacs style command editing?08:17
jhutchins_lt!find hci_usb08:17
Contrastjhutchins_lt: Thanks for the reply, but I think it's something I've done, because I don't have that problem on 2/3 of my computers, and I never had it until recently on this one08:17
ubotuPackage/file hci_usb does not exist in feisty08:17
jhutchins_lt!find hci_usb.so08:17
jhutchins_lt!find hci_usb.o08:17
sam123jhutchins_lt i havent got used to that yet08:17
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ubotuPackage/file hci_usb.so does not exist in feisty08:18
ubotuPackage/file hci_usb.o does not exist in feisty08:18
BluesKajsam123, cd wav files are pcm08:18
sam123BluesKaj thanks08:18
jhutchins_ltsam123: Niether have I - and it's been a LOONG time.  I recently discovered how to switch it to vi-style, but I haven't put that in my bashrc yet.08:18
sam123jhutchins_lt ive allways prefered nano to vi since vi needs alot of getting used to08:19
jhutchins_ltI've used vi since I started using linux, so "used to" is accomplished.08:19
jhutchins_ltThen again, I've used edlin.08:19
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ContrastOK, how about this: Tab-completion also isn't working for anything following "apt-get" :-\08:20
Contrast(sans sudo)08:21
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jhutchins_ltContrast: Um, how would apt know what package you might be requesting?08:21
tContrast: It only works for the first word in the line - it assumes that is the only command.08:21
jhutchins_ltor bash for that matter?08:21
tContrast: It will still work for completing file names.08:22
jhutchins_ltt: It'll also work for files to be operated on by commands in most cases.08:22
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Contrastjhutchins_lt: It works on 2/3 of my computers, and it used to work on this one, I promise08:22
jhutchins_ltDoesn't work for options.08:22
ContrastPackages aren't options08:22
jhutchins_ltContrast: Uh huh.  Pastebin an example if you think that's true.08:22
jhutchins_ltContrast: They aren't files either, unless they're local.08:22
BluesKajI find autocompletion a PITA in most cases08:23
sam123what package do i need for wav decoding?08:23
jhutchins_ltContrast: bash can only complete things it knows about, which are commands and local files.08:23
gss6tab completion works for me in every arguement of apt-get/aptitude08:23
Contrastjhutchins_lt: What exact reason would I have to lie about that? One sec, I'll get on the laptop and pastebin it, unless, of course, you'll claim I just falsified it. :-\08:23
jhutchins_ltsam123: decoding to what?08:23
jhutchins_ltContrast: I think your recollection may be confused.  I don't think you're lying, but you're wrong.08:23
BluesKajsam123, do you have the amarok player ?08:23
sam123BluesKaj yes08:24
sam123jthutchins_lt decoding to something playable08:24
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jhutchins_ltsam123: rm -r ~/.xine08:24
RyarenHow can I make a script to xrestart?08:24
BluesKajsam123, wav is a std cd audio codec , just click on a song08:24
jhutchins_ltsam123: Look for wav2... or wavto... utilities specific to the format you want, or transcode with ffmpeg, mplayer, etc.08:25
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jhutchins_ltRyaren: Perhaps you should explain what you're actually trying to do?08:25
Contrastjhutchins_lt: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2926808:25
sam123for some reason only one of my cd drives could read my audio cd08:26
jhutchins_ltContrast: Well, that's fairly wierd, unless those files are in your current directory.  Interesting.08:26
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Contrastjhutchins_lt: Honest to God, ever since I knew what tab-completion was, I've been able to do that08:27
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jhutchins_ltVery odd.  Doesn't work at all on my kubuntu.08:28
jhutchins_ltContrast: I wonder where it gets the list of possible files from.08:28
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ContrastIt makes sense to me - apt-get is just querying the list of packages, which is locally on the system08:28
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jhutchins_ltContrast: I mean, my system usually takes significant time to do a search and pattern match in apt.08:28
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jhutchins_ltContrast: Mine just beeps.08:29
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ContrastSame here (on this computer)08:29
ContrastI can't even tab-complete "install from "apt-get i" (which I CAN do on the laptop)08:29
Contrast*"install"*08:30
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ubuntu_tdrg08:31
ubuntu_<??????????????????>08:31
ContrastLooks like I'll be using "apt-get" a lot less. :-\08:32
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BluesKajContrast, try aptitude :)08:32
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ContrastDoesn't work for that either, BluesKaj - but thanks anyway. :-) (Have you been following along?)08:32
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vzduchI don't think you're faster searching for programs in Adept or Synaptic..08:33
BluesKajwell, i'm just wondering why it's so important , Contrast08:33
BluesKaj:)08:33
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BluesKajdunno why but the tab completion works in the konsole ok ... don't remeber activating the autocomplketions option anywhere08:35
ContrastBecause it's fast. I type "sudo apt-get install program-of-interest" - hit tab twice, then I have a list of all the packages whose names start with "program-of-interest"08:35
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ContrastBluesKaj: Did you see my pasted example? You're able to tab-complete like that?08:35
BluesKajapt-get i ?08:36
BluesKajyes it works08:36
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ContrastHmm... jhutchins_lt said it's never worked for him. It always did for me until recently on this particular computer. :-\08:37
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ContrastOh well08:37
BluesKajthe pasetbin post...no it didn't work for me either , Contrast :(08:38
vzduch!samba08:38
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT08:38
ContrastOh ok08:38
ContrastGuess I should just count my blessings and move on. Heh08:38
animalhi pls help me.. I have problem with guitsy Kubuntu.. can't install adept or synaptic08:38
SkorpKingtabcompletion works for me!08:38
Contrastanimal: You might have better luck at #kubuntu+1, just so you know. Are you using Gutsy as your main OS?08:39
RyarenHow can I restart X with a different config file? /etc/init.d/kdm restart -xorg.conf208:40
MidMarkany help with a "ghost" disappearing cdrom after installation?08:40
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MidMarkhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/12418708:40
Hueyi am trying to install kubuntu on a laptop without a working cd-rom drive. i have created a chrooted environment, and followed the steps described here:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot . If i follow this up with 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' and point grub to boot off of that partition, will i have the equivalent kubuntu environment setup as if i had installed off of the cd?08:40
ContrastSkorpKing: In the context we're talking about?08:40
RyarenIs that good?08:40
BluesKajContrast, i hit the tab key twice and it completed a list of kw- apps08:41
animalyes. I am use gutsy like main OS. I am apgrade it from 7.04.. :-( Now I think I am not right..08:41
animalsome thing wrong with apt..08:41
SkorpKingContrast: sudo aptitude install tab tab myprogram08:41
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ContrastBluesKaj: It does that here too, but that's not what was in the pastebin ;-)08:41
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animalcontrast : Is only me have problem with apt?08:42
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Contrastanimal: Gutsy is still Alpha, meaning you shouldn't really be using it for your main system. You know that, right?08:42
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animalcontrast : I don't know it, but you says me..08:43
Contrast?08:43
animalContrast : totaly I need wait then problems with repositaries will solved. As I understand you..08:44
ContrastSkorpKing: Any idea what might cause that to not work?08:44
Contrastanimal: No...08:45
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SkorpKingContrast: no and can't check either. not on my linux box now. :-(08:45
iarwaincan anyone help me with a "busybox" error? (the "can't access tty" error)08:45
Contrastanimal: You should reinstall Feisty and use that as your main OS - and if you want to check out Gutsy's new features or help with testing, install it on a spare computer or as a dual-boot08:46
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ContrastSkorpKing: Thanks anyway08:47
saintm1777hi all08:47
animalContrast : can I downgrade to Feisty? In my notebook Gutsy work good. I have only problems with reposataries...08:47
saintm1777Its been a week of having Kubuntu on my laptop and desktop with only one incident08:48
Contrastanimal: Not sure. Like I said, try #kubuntu+1 - they'll be able to help you better over there. :-)08:48
saintm1777yesterday KDE went nuts when I changed the resolution and graphic card config08:49
saintm1777I had to wipe the installation and reinstall08:49
saintm1777Pain08:49
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Contrastsaintm1777: Is Kubuntu your first distro?08:49
saintm1777I am sure if I knew some commands I could have restored things08:50
animalcontrast : thank you very much.. :-)08:50
Novellor you could just have removed ~/.kde and all your KDE settings would have been gone08:50
MaTiAzHey, can a little messed up /etc/fstab affect the Windows setup on my PC at all?08:50
Contrastanimal: NP08:50
saintm1777yes Contrast08:50
Novellsaintm1777: that was for you btw08:50
daleCould anyone provide me with an link to an tutorials wich allows me the use flash in a 64bit browser08:50
dalewrapper or somethink.08:50
saintm1777thanks08:50
saintm1777Novell08:50
Contrastsaintm1777: I broke my installation a good number of times when I was first starting out, lost count of how many times I reinstalled. Heh08:50
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saintm1777but I lost files I was working on and thought that during reinstall I could recover them08:51
saintm1777crap08:51
NovellI remember when I first tried to start X.. Took me a good 2 weeks, but that was before internet was common and the word broadband wasn't invented yet :P08:51
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Contrastsaintm1777: A word of advice - If you have to reinstall again, when you're setting up the partitions, make a seperate partition mounted at /home - and don't reformat it the NEXT time you reinstall. All your files, preferences, etc. will be in tact08:52
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saintm1777Contrast:Thanks for that.08:52
saintm1777I used mandrake (now Mandriva) once before and liked the disk partitioning tools08:53
Contrastsaintm1777: NP. I wish I'd known that when I was starting. Would've saved tons of grief. Whatever though, learned a lot the hard way. Heh08:53
jhutchins_ltContrast: Um, actually, it does work for me.08:53
jhutchins_ltContrast: I left off the "install" - after I auto-completed that, it works.08:53
X2Bquestion: My "strg + alt + F" keys for changing to terminals don't work. How can I fix this??08:53
saintm1777Contrast:thanks again.  I am learning semi-hardway!08:54
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saintm1777what is xserver08:54
Contrastjhutchins_lt: So "$ apt-get kwi" double-tab would list all packages that start with "kwi"?08:54
Contrast!info X08:54
ubotuPackage x does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas08:54
Contrast!X08:54
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:54
saintm1777kept geting this thing about restarting xserver to affect changes08:54
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Contrastsaintm1777: Memorize this command - it'll come in handy when you break xorg.conf (the X config file) - "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" - Knowing that would've saved me from a good half a dozen newb reinstalls. lol08:56
X2Bsry I meant ctrl....08:56
saintm1777lol08:56
jhutchins_ltContrast: Gotta be apt-get install kwi<tab>08:56
saintm1777I just used superlatives and grunted!08:56
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Contrastjhutchins_lt: That doesn't work here. That's why I was asking about it in the first place. ;-)08:56
saintm1777writing command in my little black book08:56
jhutchins_ltContrast: I guess we could compare our bash and apt versions.08:57
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jhutchins_ltdash is 0.5.3-5ubuntu208:57
Contrastjhutchins_lt: What's the quickest way for me to find those, aside from looking in the package manager?08:58
jhutchins_ltapt is 0.6.46.4ubuntu08:58
jhutchins_ltdpkg -l apt08:58
saintm1777Just for peace of mind could someone tell me how to download and install a peice of software other than using Adept.08:59
Contrastjhutchins_lt: Same versions08:59
vzduchmy apt is 0.6.46.4ubuntu1008:59
Contrastsaintm1777: What exactly are you wanting to install?08:59
saintm1777I hae come across loads of games and apps but am terrified to install them or have tried and nothing worked08:59
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saintm1777I got this app, downloaded it, untarred it(whatever they call it) and then could do nothing09:00
jhutchins_ltsaintm1777: Shouldn't let non-functional software scare you.09:00
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Contrastsaintm1777: You want to look for Debian packages (program-name.deb). Just download it, right-click on it in Konqueror -> Konqueror Package Menu -> Install package09:00
jhutchins_lt!build | saintm177709:00
ubotusaintm1777: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)09:00
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jhutchins_ltsaintm1777: After all, you have backups, right?09:00
jhutchins_ltsaintm1777: Right?09:00
osh_Is there a simple way to see what kio-slaves are installed? something like kio:/ in konqueror or similar?09:00
jhutchins_ltsaintm1777: You do have backups, don't you?09:00
saintm1777right09:01
Contrastlol jhutchins_lt09:01
saintm1777not just yet09:01
saintm1777but thanks for the reminder09:01
Contrastjhutchins_lt: What do you use for backups?09:01
saintm1777this !build command works on what types of files?09:01
saintm1777What is Debian?09:02
Contrast!debian09:02
ubotuUbuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!09:02
saintm1777is it compiled software?09:02
herosaintm1777: yes. http://www.debian.org or #debian09:02
vzduchhero: ##debian09:02
heromy mistake09:02
saintm1777cool.09:03
herobut it'll redirect you.09:03
saintm1777thanks guys09:03
Contrastsaintm1777: Ubuntu uses the same package management system (determines how software's installed) as Debian09:03
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Contrastsaintm1777: Check http://www.getdeb.net/ if you're not finding what you're looking for in Adept09:03
FroggyTheGreatGraaugh09:03
FroggyTheGreatAnyone know if it's possible to map the windows key to open kmenu?09:04
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SlimeyPeteFroggyTheGreat: I tried to find a way but couldn't09:04
SlimeyPeteI think kde treats it purely as a meta-key09:04
FroggyTheGreatI can't find any hooks to it.  Granted, I'm a neophyte.09:04
Ryarenhi09:04
Contrastsaintm1777: Also, third-party repositories have some great stuff, although using them might add a bit of instability as some contain the latest, untested versions of some packages09:04
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Contrast!worksforme09:05
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saintm1777I will venture into installing tonight09:05
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.09:05
Contrast!works for me09:05
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.09:05
Contrastwhoops09:05
RyarenHow can I restart the X with a different config file like xorg.conf2? What is the option what I have to use?09:05
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rub3nhola09:05
rub3nbuenas tardes09:05
FroggyTheGreatIs there a keystroke binding at all to open kmenu?09:06
ContrastRyaren: I'm guessing you don't just want to copy xorg.conf to xorg.conf-backup and xorg.conf2 to xorg.conf, right?09:06
ContrastFroggyTheGreat: Alt+F109:06
Ryarenno I want to create a script to the Desktop because I have two different config file! One for the games one for the movies :)09:07
ContrastFroggyTheGreat: Check System Settings -> Regional & Accessibility -> Keyboard Shortcuts for the whole list ;-)09:07
FroggyTheGreatThanks.  Pretty sure there wasn't a hook in there, but I'll look again.09:07
Ryarenand I don't want to always type /etc/init.d/kdm restart09:07
ContrastRyaren: I had a setup like that a while back, got to be a PITA though. But I just put the aforementioned actions into the scripts09:08
RyarenPITA?09:08
Ryaren!pita09:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pita - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:08
ContrastRyaren: Although I had no success whatsoever with restarting KDM from a script, despite great efforts (pita = pain in the)09:09
vzduchRyaren: pain in the a***09:09
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FroggyTheGreatOk, there's no keyboard hook to the k-menu that I can find.09:09
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RyarenI don't know the syntax How can I configure to reach different conf file with a command09:09
ContrastFroggyTheGreat: One sec...09:09
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Ryaren /etc/init.d/kdm -xorg.conf2 restart or what??09:10
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ContrastFroggyTheGreat: It's called the launch menu in there09:10
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FroggyTheGreatContrast - thanks, I'll look again.09:11
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ContrastRyaren: You might ask in #xorg - sorry, I don't know09:11
Ryarenokay Thank you09:11
ContrastRyaren: Did you try it the way you'rer suggesting? I can't imagine that would break anything if it's wrong09:11
FroggyTheGreatHunh.  It won't let me define a shortcut using just the win key.09:11
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ContrastFroggyTheGreat: Yeah, you can't use modifier keys (alt, ctrl, shift, win) as actions by themselves09:12
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FroggyTheGreatngk09:12
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ContrastFroggyTheGreat: There is an opton you can add to xorg.conf so you can define one of them as a different key and use it like a regular button - that's how Kubuntu was by default up until Feisty (I used the right Alt key to bring up the K Menu)09:13
Contrastngk?09:13
FroggyTheGreatHmm.09:14
andres1hi, Im having some problrem when using Adept Manager... when i try to install something is giving me the following message09:14
andres1There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.09:14
FroggyTheGreatWhere would I find the xorg.conf?09:14
andres1i try diferent packages but it always tells me the same thing09:15
Kr4t05andres1: Pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list09:15
ContrastFroggyTheGreat: /etc/X11 - hang on one sec though...09:15
FroggyTheGreatok09:15
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Kr4t05andres1: You should go ahead a bring up a Konsole window, too.09:16
ContrastFroggyTheGreat: Be very careful when editing that - setting something wrong can leave you stuck at the command line with no GUI (you can run this command from there to set things back to normal - "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg")09:16
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ReggieI can't compile anything in kdevelop, I get errors like in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29277/ and I have no idea what to do.09:16
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andres1Kr4t05: i got the /etc/a[t/spurces.list up09:18
andres1and the console09:18
Kr4t05Reggie: Install libx11-dev with apt or Adept09:18
ContrastFroggyTheGreat: If you want to try what I was talking about, here's the line you'd add under the input device section for your keyboard in xorg.conf - Option          "XkbOptions"    "lv3:ralt_switch"09:18
Kr4t05andres1: Try using apt-get to install a package09:18
Contrastbrb09:18
andres1ok09:19
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Kr4t05Then, also, pastebin what it returns.09:19
ReggieKr4t05: thanks, I'll install it as soon as I'll be able to access my linux box09:19
andres1what u mean byu pastebin?09:19
Kr4t05!paste > andres109:20
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Contrast83FroggyTheGreat: I just set mine like that, works perfectly.09:20
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Kr4t05andres1: Did you get that?09:20
andres1yeah09:21
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Contrast83FroggyTheGreat: You have to restart X for changes to that file to take effect though (log out, press Alt+E at the login screen - or click Restart X Server from the menu - and log back in)09:21
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BluesKaj!pastebin > BluesKaj09:21
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andres1let me do then09:21
Kr4t05andres1: It works with apt-get?09:22
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blizzzekkmail is not decripting mails i receive. gnupg key is set, also the encryption module is active. what can i do?09:23
andres1ok kr405: im doing the pastebin for the context of /etc/apt/sources.list which are at this location http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29279/09:23
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andres1haven try adt-get09:24
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vzduchandres1: you have a strange keyboard layout if you are able to confuse p with d ;)09:24
andres1lol Sorry i just typed to fast :-P09:25
FroggyTheGreatLet's see if this works...09:25
Kr4t05andres1: Yeah... You have edgy and fiesty repos mixed.09:25
TeraDynevzduch: or the keyboard is flipped...09:25
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Contrast83Does anyone know how flexible this option - lv3:ralt_switch - is? i.e., could I also do lv3:lwin_switch ?09:26
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andres1kr4t05 so what can i do to fix that09:27
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Contrast83andres1: Take out the lines in your sources.list that have "edgy" in them09:27
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Kr4t05andres1: What you need to do is this: Go to http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic and click everything applicable to your system. Then copy and paste the text your givin to the file you pastebin'd earlier (/etc/apt/sources.list). Make sure you save it. Then, from a console, run sudo apt-get update and upgrade as nessesary09:27
vzduchandres1: depends on whether you have Edgy or Feisty installee09:28
vzduch*installed09:28
Kr4t05Contrast83: I can handle it. :P09:28
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Contrast83Kr4t05: Sorry, forgot how confusing it can get when two people are trying to help someone. :-)09:28
kooshihello, where can I see latest kde4 screenshots?09:29
andres1all right thanks09:29
BluesKajor replace the "edgy" with "feisty" , if feisty is installed , but somehow i don't think it is09:29
Kr4t05andres1: Glad I could help. :)09:29
Contrast83Kr4t05: Nice link. Committing that to memory. Heh09:29
Kr4t05andres1: Bear in mind, if you still have problems, you may need to reinstall from scratch. Mixing repos cross-version like that is a great way to completely fudge your system. ;)09:30
Contrast83Kr4t05: Do you know anything about keyboard options in xorg.conf?09:30
Kr4t05Contrast83: Not off the top of my head, but I thought I saw a howto on the forums not too long ago.09:30
Contrast83Thanks, I'll have a look09:31
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andres1wow ok THAT doesnt sound good09:32
BluesKajandres1, what are you using Feisty or Edgy ?09:32
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Contrast83ubotu: Why doesn't Konqueror have a feature as primitive as Ctrl/Shift+Enter completion for URLS?09:33
andres1BluesKaj: To be honest with you i really dont know09:34
rustalotwhat program do I use for .flv's?09:34
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jhutchins_ltContrast83: Um, how about just "Enter"?09:35
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andres1kr4t05: if im using  kubuntu what ubuntu realease im suding09:36
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andres1using*09:36
TeraDyneandres1: depends. There's a new Kubuntu with every Ubuntu09:36
Contrast83jhutchins_lt: I don't think you understand. Typing "ubuntu" and hitting Ctrl+Enter should go to http://www.ubuntu.com - doing what you're saying just does a local search for "ubuntu"09:36
TeraDyneandres1: Kubuntu 7.04 is the same as Ubuntu 7.04, so whatever Kubuntu you're using is the version of Ubuntu you're using09:37
jhutchins_ltContrast83: But what if I want to go to ubuntu.net?09:37
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kooshiFirefox solved this problem admirably, you can use different shortcuts for different suffixes09:38
Contrast83jhutchins_lt: In Firefox, you would type "ubuntu" and hit Shift+Enter09:38
jhutchins_ltor ubuntu-hacking.net?09:38
andres1oh ok   and that depents also on the edgy or festy09:38
Kr4t05andres1: It makes no difference. The repos for Ubuntu work with Kubuntu. :)09:38
jhutchins_ltI detest firefox.09:38
TeraDyneandres1: correct09:38
Contrast83jhutchins_lt: I don't get where you're going09:38
Kr4t05andres1: Which did you originally install? Edgy, I'm assuming.09:38
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kooshinothing wrong with using a good feature from a (supposedly) bad app09:39
jhutchins_ltthe feature list just keeps getting longer, the configuration is obscure as can be, and it still has bugs that are holdovers from Mosaic 1.x.09:39
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andres1Kr4to5 i cant rember im looking on the help menu to see if it tellsme09:40
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andres1kubuntu 7.0409:40
andres1i guess is edgy09:41
BluesKajno it's feisty09:41
andres1well it looks  its feisty09:41
andres1yeah09:41
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AyabaraI formatted an external drive as hfs+ in kubuntu, but os x says "The disk you inserted was not readable by this computer" when I turn it on. Any advice?09:42
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frank__he guys09:43
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BluesKajwrong filesystem Ayabara ...kubuntu is ext2 or 309:44
kwikksilverHello..I have a problem installing an encrypted filesystem with debian-installer...anyone who give a hand?09:44
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andres1OK i got the new source.list when i try to modified i t tells me i dont have accesme i dont have permition09:44
sochi, does someone know when there will be an updated repo with kde 4 alpha 2 at kubuntu.org?09:45
AyabaraBluesKaj, forgot to mention that I did it because I have an Ubuntu laptop and a MacBook Pro09:45
kwikksilverI first install a software RAID5, then create a LVM, then I would like to have the partitions in the LV to be encrypted.09:45
Ayabaraand need to use the drives on both computers09:45
K`zanHi Folks, I've screwed up X :-(.  I installed the binary drivers from nvidia and now when I boot, it doesn't come up in X.  I have to remove and reinstall the nvidia module and restart kdm to get up.  I tried installing nvidia-glx (didn't know about it) but that didn't change anything.  Some what I can fix this?  TMIA!09:45
BluesKajandres1, alt+f2 then type' kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list '09:45
kwikksilverFrom the installation manual, this seems trivial, except I dont have the "Physical volume for encryption" option when I select "use as:"09:46
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kwikksilverAny ideas?09:47
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BluesKajK`zan, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , then choose the vesa or nvidia generic driver , that will get X back and you can try again from there09:48
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K`zanBluesKaj: Will give that a shot, thank you Sir!09:50
kwikksilverNo one uses encrypted filesystem here? ;_;09:50
K`zanI sure don't :-)09:50
BluesKajkwikksilver,we don't get many questions about encrypted volumes09:50
sam123BluesKaj ive got alsa set up perfectly now however i still have one problem. Running amarok and guild wars under cedega at the same time makes both sounds cackly and slow09:50
kwikksilverI see...09:50
andres1may i ask why does the source.list gets change or mixes edgy with feisty09:50
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kwikksilverWell, I just find it a bit strange that the manual makes it seem so straight-forward and then the options dont even exist there for me...09:51
sam123BluesKaj i think it may be because i havent chosen a CTL Device for cedega but i dont know what to put. Ive put swmix as my PCM Device.09:51
BluesKajsam123, sorry i'm not a gamer so i listen to one thing ata time09:51
MarcCis there a way to make adept or synaptic adapt to bad spelling in searches? My brother frequently misspells words so he thinks the software he wants isn't available09:51
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jhutchins_ltsam123: Why would you want to run both amarok and a game at the same time?09:52
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vzduchMarcC: teach your brother to spell correctly :)09:52
sam123jhutchins_lt so that i can listen to my music and the ingame sounds at the same time.09:52
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jhutchins_ltsam123: Since you're running under cedega, you've already got the load of the game multiplied by cedega, then you try to run amarok too, that's a lot of load.09:52
MarcCvzduch: it's a mental disability, tbh09:52
Ayabaracan Ubuntu write to hfs drives?09:53
sam123jhutchins_lt and compiz fusion too ;)09:53
K`zanwhat is the command to run a kde app as root  kdesu?09:53
jhutchins_ltsam123: I'd try running something lighter, like just xine or a cli player.09:53
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jhutchins_ltsam123: Do you smell something burning?09:53
sam123jhutchins_lt nope09:53
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jhutchins_ltsam123: It's your wallet.09:54
BluesKajin konqueror K`zan , yes09:54
sam123jhutchins_lt what should i choose as my CTL Device?09:54
sam123jhutchins_lt what do you mean my wallets burning?09:54
Guilty_as_Sinwhat is the pre-defined screen name in kubuntu?   Trying to set up synergy is all09:54
jhutchins_ltsam123: No idea, I think that might be a cedega question.09:54
K`zanBluesKaj: Thanks again !09:54
jhutchins_ltsam123: Lots of CPU waste.09:54
Guilty_as_Sinanyone?09:55
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sam123jhutchins_lt na my cpu load is about 0.509:55
daleWhat package can i install to play dvix?09:55
sam123jhutchins_lt and dropping09:55
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jhutchins_ltsam123: Actually, it's more GPU load, but anyway.09:56
Guilty_as_Sinisn't it ubuntu as well?09:56
jhutchins_ltsam123: I would say that the game is not designed to play nicely with the linux sound system.09:56
sam123jhutchins_lt yep definately gpu load09:56
daleanyone?09:56
osh_!kitchensync09:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kitchensync - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:56
BluesKaj!dvix09:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dvix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:56
K-Ryan!divx09:56
osh_!anything09:56
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:56
ubotuSo, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.09:56
BluesKajdale ffmpeg09:56
BluesKaj!ffmpeg09:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ffmpeg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:56
K-Ryan!botabuse09:57
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...09:57
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RyarenSby know How can I switch TwinView mode? I just can play a game when TwinView is Disabled, but I can only watch movie if TwinView is enabled...09:57
osh_!sync09:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sync - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:57
Guilty_as_Sinhas anyonehere  ever used synergy b4?09:57
jhutchins_lt!info synergy09:58
BluesKajdale VLC will play divx09:58
ubotusynergy: Share mouse, keyboard and clipboard over the network. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.1-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 593 kB, installed size 1460 kB09:58
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BluesKaj!divx09:58
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:58
Guilty_as_Sinjust a quick questionyes09:58
K-RyanThat's cool09:58
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BluesKajgotta get the spelling right for those codecs and bots :)09:58
Guilty_as_Sinyes, it will be great..  just used the repos to install..  having a lil trouble setting up the server is all09:58
osh_synergy is way cool. I've used it over 3 different os'es. Win/Irix/Linux. Works great. =)09:59
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Guilty_as_SinI'm using quick synergy to set it up..  can't seem to get it to work (PEBKAC)10:00
blizzzekhow do i get a ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf10:00
blizzzek?10:00
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bLooDzblizzzek from home directry i hope ;p10:01
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r00t_whatdoes it mean if a users name is shadowed out on the user list in konversation10:01
vzduchr00t_: away10:02
blizzzekbLooDz: i would not ask if it is there10:02
K-RyanThey're idle10:02
K-RyanErr, away10:02
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bLooDzblizzzek then sowwy i don't know :(10:02
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jhutchins_ltr00t_: /away <reason>10:03
jhutchins_ltr00t_: like this10:03
Contrast83Does anyone know where the default .directory file is kept, or if there's no such thing, what file determines what goes into every new .directory file?10:03
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vzduchto my knowledge, .directory files are for the icons in e.g. Konqueror10:07
Contrast83vzduch: Well, they also determine whether to show hidden files, but they're actually specific to Konqueror? I didn't know that10:08
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vzduchContrast83: no, they're not Konq-specific.. read again :)10:08
Contrast83Oh, whoops. Heh, sorry10:08
Contrast83vzduch: There has to be a default .directory somewhere that's getting copied everytime a new directory's created though, right? Either that, or it's hardcoded somewhere up the line?10:09
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jhutchins_ltThey actually work in windows as well.10:10
jhutchins_ltContrast83: Usually there's only a .directory if some special property has been applied to the folder.10:10
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Contrast83Isn't it "thumbsdb" in Windows though?10:10
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vzduchContrast83: you're assuming that you have a .directory file in every dir.. which is not the case; you can easily find that out10:11
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jhutchins_ltContrast83: I haven't really used windows since NT4, but 95-nt4 respected .directory.10:11
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Contrast83vzduch: Just discovered that actually. Sorry10:11
vzduchWindoze uses a file called desktop.ini to modify the icon and perhaps (I don't know) behaviour of directories10:12
jhutchins_ltWhich is actually a surprizingly smart approach, especially given how early it was adopted.10:12
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Contrast83I'm guessing .directory is an old Unix standard?10:12
jhutchins_ltContrast83: Not that I know of, it uses the same format as a DOS config file.10:13
Contrast83Oh ok10:13
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jhutchins_ltBoth the WIMP interface and the heirarchical filesystem are post-DOS ideas - or at least general adoption of them is.10:14
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nuxilHi all.. can anyone answer me why there is no host.allow and host.deny ? and can i make them files and they will do there job? i am using feisty!10:16
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jhutchins_ltnuxil: Because most programs that are used these days have other methods of configuring those restrictions.10:17
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jhutchins_ltnuxil: I think they date back to rsh and/or ftp.10:17
jhutchins_ltnuxil: But yes, you can create them and some programs will respect them.  What are you trying to configure?10:18
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Contrast83Is it possible to use "cp" to copy the source to multiple destinations?10:18
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root__how do i give a .run script execute permissions?10:19
Contrast83root__: Open a terminal, chmod a+x /path/to/script10:20
Contrast83root__: Or bring up its properties in Konqueror and check "Is executable" under the Permissions tab10:20
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nuxiljhutchins_lt basicly i want to bloc host..10:23
nuxilbut i got iptables doing it..10:23
nuxilso i guess its unessesary10:23
manolohola10:25
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mosheahi all, is there a command-line where I can see the make/model of my HDDs ?10:27
SlimeyPetehdparm might do it. Type "man hdparm" to see the manual.10:28
manolohola10:28
SlimeyPetehullo.10:29
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mosheaSlimeyPete: I'll try that, thanks10:29
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mosheaSlimeyPete: hm, that's a bit involved .... basically I just need to figure if a HDD is in a RAID or not10:30
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rodrigohello guys10:31
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mosheaheh, how to reply to the prompt from mdadm (MDMA ? nah, silly joke) during the upgrade from Edgy to Feisty ?10:40
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zombielioni have a philips radio fw-C577  it connects to the pc via usb. my question is i dont see any linux drivers for it. and the windows drivers wont install it tells me to coonect it but it is already connected wine must not emulate everything it needs to look at. does anyone have this system or does anyone have any ideas10:41
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SlimeyPeteyou can't install drivers via wine, afaik. Wine doesn't work at such a low level.10:42
zombielionis there anything i can do10:42
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mosheait offers "all" (as in "start all RAID drives") ...10:43
SlimeyPetezombielion: not sure. Try googling to see if there are any open-source drivers available.10:43
mosheabut I read in a forum that if you reply "all" and you do NOT have a RAID array, your machine won't start up again10:44
jhutchinszombielion: The problem is that if you were to install the windows drivers with wine, they'd be installed to wine, not to the linux system.10:44
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jhutchinszombielion: There are things like madwifi and ndiswrapper that work with some windows-only devices, but those are mostly for networking.10:45
jhutchinszombielion: You'd need software to do whatever it is windows does with the thing anyway.10:46
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zombielioni didnt find anything and i dont have no idea what the operationg system does for the radio all i know is you connect the usb and it is like a big speaker. what software could i use10:47
K`zanBluesKaj: What was the dpkg -reconfigure xorg thing again - it hung up and I can't recover the command :-(10:47
NickPrestasudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, K`zan10:48
K`zanNickPresta: Thank you Sir!10:48
NickPresta=)10:48
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jhutchinszombielion: Well, it might appear as a sound device.  What does the system see when you connect it?10:48
jhutchinszombielion: What does lsusb say?10:49
zombielionit didnt do anything. i mean i didnt restart or nothing with it turned on but when i connected it with it turned onit didnt nothing winxp would have looked up the drivers and installed. i think that is how winxp looks at it as an audio device10:50
zombielionhow do i use isusb10:50
K`zanSigh, the reconfigure just hangs, time to wipe/reinstall again?10:50
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NickPrestaK`zan, have you tried to manually configure your xorg.conf file?10:50
NickPrestaK`zan, what seems to be the problem?10:50
K`zanNickPresta: No, but I saved the original, perhaps replacing the current one with that?10:51
zombielioni am really knew i dont even know what do do with tar files i just try to find deb files so just to let you know10:51
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jhutchinszombielion: Lsusb (lowercase though) in console.10:51
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NickPrestaK`zan, you could try replacing your original, yeah10:52
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K`zanNickPresta: Did, will see if that works and THEN try the nvidia-glx.  The nv driver is abysmally slow :-(.10:52
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NickPrestaK`zan, oh, you're having trouble with nvidia drivers?10:53
NickPrestaV_V10:53
jhutchinszombielion: There are hints it works with linux.10:53
jhutchinszombielion: You can also look at /var/log/messages right after you plug it in, or dmesg10:54
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zombielionBus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000     Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000     Bus 001 Device 006: ID 0471:0110 Philips     Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04f2:0230 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd     Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000       this is what it tells me10:54
zombielionso it sees it10:54
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zombielioni think the chicony is my wireless keyboard10:55
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zombielionwhat am i looking for if i dmesg10:55
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rodrigohi guys10:56
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K`zanNickPresta: Yes, I was.  I was not aware of the nvidia-glx in the repository and installed the one downloaded from Nvidia.  Had to remove and reinstall the nvidia module and restart kdm to get into X every time I booted.10:57
rodrigoany one of you can tell how can I transfer files trough one disk that have kubuntu and other wich has windows I can't open the hard disk trough kubuntu10:57
jhutchinszombielion: Well, there it is: Bus 001 Device 006: ID 0471:0110 Philips10:57
zombielionok i dmesg it and it tells me some stuff i guess i mean i can see where it sees it but i dont know what it means something about USB HID v1.00 Device and some other things10:57
jhutchins!pastebin10:57
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)10:57
zombielion[ 1867.496000]  input: Philips UAC3553B as /class/input/input1210:58
zombielionthat is from the dmesg10:58
jhutchinsInteresting.10:58
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jhutchinszombielion: Looks like it's identified it as an input device.10:58
K`zanNickPresta: Now that it is working again, I'll try installing the nvidia-glx package.10:58
rodrigochannel list/10:58
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jhutchinszombielion: Which is counterintuitive, I would have thought output...10:59
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zombieliondo you need to know everyhting that dmesg said about it. is there anything i can do10:59
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jhutchinszombielion: http://philips.com10:59
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jhutchinszombielion: 1-888-744-5477 in the U.S.11:00
zombielionwell it is an output I dont know it really doesnt like let the radio play on the pc from the radio so it should be output i dont know11:00
zombielionThey dont support linux11:00
jhutchinszombielion: What about mac?11:00
zombielionThat is what i read on a thread the guy had mandrake tho but he said they dont support linux11:01
zombielioni dont think so11:01
zombielioni think 98 2000 and xp11:01
jhutchinsEvery time somebody calls them and says "how do I get this to work with linux", we're one step closer to getting support.11:01
zombielionwell i will give it a try11:01
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K`zanNickPresta: Sigh, nvidia-glx didn't do it either - had to restore the original xorg.conf to get back :-(.  How does one install the nvidia propritary drivers and not have to go through all that to get X up every time?11:04
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zombielionwell i called the guy said he didnt see anything but sounded like he didnt even know what linux was. he told me to look in the user manual but i doubt it has antyhing to say11:06
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jhutchinsWell, there ya go, philips isn't known for quality customer support, but it was worth a shot and it should get logged.11:06
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zombielionis there not anything else i can do without being some master programer or somthing. linux sees it i know. and it knows it is philips surly there is somthing i can do11:08
jhutchinszombielion: I dunno, I would expect that if you could get linux to see it as a sound device, that might work, but I'm not sure where you'd start.11:08
jhutchinszombielion: Google.11:08
NickPrestaK`zan, I don't know what else to say. Which card do you have? For me, `sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx` worked just fine.11:08
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vzduchK`zan: what's the error msg when stopping X ('sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop') and restarting it by hand ('startx')?11:09
K`zanNickPresta: Dunno, looks like something is hosed big time again, wipe/reinstall again :-(.  Had more problems with feisty than I have *ever* had with linux :-(.11:09
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NickPrestaK`zan, I'm sure reinstallation isn't needed.11:10
brian__can someone help me with mounting a slave during boot11:10
jhutchinszombielion: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-218640.html11:10
zombielionjhutchins: how should i google it the other guy that told me to google it i looked up fw-c577 open source drivers11:10
K`zanvzduch: no errors, hangs on startup with the nvidia drivers requiring me to :  rmmod nvidia ; modprobe nvidia ; /etc/init.d/kdm restart.11:10
brian__i have done everything in the wiki and nothing works11:10
brian__I even ran a script that was said to work but it did not11:11
K`zanNickPresta: I'd sure like to think so :-).  Been working on this for 3 days now and it works SLOWLY with the nv driver (count of 3-4 for the KMenu to come up with nv, instantaneous with the nvidia drivers).11:12
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zander__help me pls11:12
K`zanI think I'll quit back to console and try the nvidia-glx one more time before I start over.11:13
zombielionok.... so what is that saying go to mandrake11:13
zander__dont know but i installed edubuntu over my kubuntu11:13
NickPresta!ask | zander__11:13
ubotuzander__: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)11:13
brian__whats up zander11:13
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zander__i want my kubuntu back11:13
brian__during login choose the session11:13
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zander__what sesssion?11:13
zombielionthe last post said it worked in edgy is this a prog UAC3553B can i download it somewhere11:14
zander__i want my kubuntu >.<11:14
brian__it is in the lower right hand section11:14
brian__of the screen11:14
brian__you boot to a login screen right?11:14
zander__yes11:14
zombielionzander that sucks i didnt the same thing and didnt know what the hell to to this was just right after i fresh installed kubuntu so i just reinstalled11:14
brian__on the bottom of the screen there are two bars one on the left and one on the right11:15
zander__at the login?11:15
brian__the one on the left is language and the one on the right is session11:15
zander__should i go look?11:15
brian__yes11:15
zander__ok see ya11:15
brian__what version of ubuntu are you using11:15
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brian__goodluck11:15
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brian__did that help you as well zombielion?11:16
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Untrax-Hi11:17
zander__yes it work11:17
Untrax-Guys11:17
zander__didn saw that there are some other sessions^^11:17
Untrax-How I Can Open Terminal Server?11:17
brian__you can also install diff desktops and change them in session11:17
zombielionbrian__: i just did a fresh install i dint know what to do11:17
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zander__yes iam new so i need some help^^11:18
brian__thats ok me too11:18
zombielionhow do i install tar files11:18
Untrax-All Here11:18
Untrax-Is Shit !11:18
jhutchins!build | zombielion11:18
Untrax-I Kidding11:18
ubotuzombielion: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)11:18
zander__hey brian do you have icq or something11:18
Untrax-!build | zombileion11:19
ubotuzombileion: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)11:19
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zander__i need some one like you^^11:19
zander__iam realy fresh here11:19
K`zanNickPresta: No luck :-(.  Either live with manually starting X with the nvidia drivers or suffer through the SLOW nv stuff or reinstall again.  nvidia-glx hangs at the reconfigure every time requiring you to kill the processes to get the term back.  Sigh.  Thanks for the help, appreciate your efforts.11:19
zombielionthanx11:19
Untrax-Tell Me11:19
zander__i have kubuntu since yesterday11:19
brian__http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/11:19
Untrax-How I Can Change My Nick Color11:19
nuxilbig QUESTION? i am currently running superkaramba with three themes on the desktop, "amarok-stuff clock and a fortune thingy" however... when i go to the home dir of thise files. the dir is empty.: /home/nuxil/.kde/share/apps/superkaramba i tryed do a ls -la on the dir too.. but its shows up empty there to. are them files installed under another location?11:19
brian__this will help install everything zombielion11:19
brian__http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/11:20
zombielionthanx11:20
brian__how long have you used linux zander?11:20
nicotin_emedia11:20
zander__since yesterday xD11:20
jhutchinsnuxil: They may be installed system wide.11:20
brian__you will enjoy it11:21
nicotin_eisn't work.... sad..11:21
nuxiljhutchins, but i installed thouse themes as a user11:21
zander__iam fast in learning11:21
brian__look into gdesklets11:21
zombielionwell i guess i will try and see what i can do with this radio that is stupid that philips is like that thanks jhutchins11:21
jhutchinsnuxil: How did you install them?11:21
zander__you see iam in the web xD11:21
brian__nice tool11:21
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nuxiljhutchins, as this user using superkaramba11:21
nuxilNew stuff button :p11:21
brian__no sorry no icq11:22
jhutchinsnuxil: try "locate <somthing>" where <somethng> is the theme name.11:22
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nuxiljhutchins, but the i dont know the name of the themes.. and the themes usaly have some weird name.. starting with a number11:23
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brian__hey zander look me up in kopete11:24
brian__brnbock@aol.com11:24
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nicotin_efinally...... finished installation)))11:24
Untrax-dasd11:24
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nuxiljhutchins, the weirdest thing is that superkaramba wount let me unistall them.. the is no uninstall button ther as it should be11:24
nicotin_eUntrax-: connection test?))11:24
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nicotin_ewow..11:25
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vzduchah, them lame scripts ;)11:27
nicotin_eyeah... simple and pretty))11:28
brian__you still there zander11:28
zander__ehm now11:28
zander__xd11:28
zander__xD11:28
zander__do you anything aelse like an instant managaer xD11:29
zander__msn?11:29
brian__look me up on kopete brnbock@aol.com11:29
nicotin_ewhat a fine system.. this kubuntu...11:29
nicotin_e!kernel11:29
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild11:29
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zander__ok will see11:30
brian__do you have a messenger that you use?11:30
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zander__i have icq and msn xD11:31
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zander__brnbock@aol.com <-- for what?11:32
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brian__kopete11:32
zander__using kopete fo msn and hmm i thin gaimp or so for icq11:32
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brian__it is in the K menu under internet11:32
vzduchbrian__: which protocol, that was the question11:32
bLiSShola11:33
vzduchzander__: you can use Kopete for ICQ as well.. file transfer won't work there either :>11:33
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brian__zander what is you msn screen name or the email you use to login?11:35
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rustalothow do I show someone what kubuntu looks like without a live cd or my computer?11:35
zander__mersad@wudu.de11:35
brian__snapshot11:35
vzduchrustalot: screenshots11:35
zander__thats my login name11:35
zander__brnbock@aol.com is that msn?11:35
Rumparustalot: with screenshots11:35
brian__mersad@wudu.de11:36
zander__i added you in msn11:36
rustalotvzduch, Rumpa: is there some site with lots of screenshots that other people took?11:36
nuxilhow can i extract a *skz file "superkaramba file"11:37
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vzduchrustalot: dunno11:37
rustalotnuxil: start superkaramba & open it with superkaramba11:37
nicotin_esucks... nuxil: i'am not sure, that you really need to extract it...11:37
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nicotin_enuxil: "sucks" is not for you)) sorry)11:38
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nuxilrustalot no not like that11:39
zander__brian are you online?11:39
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rustalotnuxil: what are you trying to do?11:40
brian__working on it having some trouble with my account11:40
nuxilwhat do you think im trying to do?11:40
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zander__ok^^11:40
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nuxilindeed :p11:40
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nicotin_ea guess skz is simple tar.gz (or tbz) but only with special extension..11:41
Rumparustalot: for starters check out http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=786&slide=411:41
nicotin_enuxil: do you have Arc?11:41
nuxilyes11:41
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nicotin_enuxil: try to open *skz with Arc..11:42
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nicotin_enuxil: or in Midnight commander..11:42
nuxilalright11:42
nuxil:)11:42
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nicotin_edid somebody try to recompile a kernel?11:46
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vzduchnicotin_e: long since.. I remember baking a 2.6.3 when most distros still shipped 2.4 kernels11:47
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Rumpanicotin_e: a long time ago. Why do you need to compile a custom kernel?11:48
nicotin_evzduch: existing system (I have running) has 2.6.10 kernel.. I'm trying to "make menuconfig" and reseive an error..11:48
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nicotin_eerror in kernel... funny things...))11:48
nuxilnicotin_e, so if arc x gives me nothing valid.. that means its encrypted using the g parameter?11:49
nicotin_ehow it can be, i don't now...11:49
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vzduchnicotin_e: Breezy?11:49
nicotin_enuxil: have you already tried MC?11:49
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Rumpanuxil: why are you trying to open *.skz?11:50
nicotin_evzduch: it says , that he is EDGY))11:50
vzducho011:51
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vzduchif I'm not totally off, Edgy shipped w/ a 2.6.1611:51
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nicotin_evzduch: some ukrainians say.. why are you looking? i have confused myself...11:52
nicotin_eso I type "uname -a"11:53
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feierfoxhi11:53
nicotin_eand receive Linux komalie 2.6.10-10-generic #2 SMP Fri Oct 13 18:45:35 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux11:53
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feierfoxis our "guru" mark just visiting #ubuntu?11:53
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vzduchfeierfox: what do you celebrate? :D11:54
nicotin_e...eeee... let it be.... if we have 2.6.10... than it have to be like this.. neertheless i don't have some extranew hardware..11:55
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nicotin_ebut it's a little pity..11:55
vzduchLinux zalle 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Thu Jun 7 20:19:32 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux11:55
nicotin_evzduch: were do you get this)) really, i want 2.6.20 toooo))11:57
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nicotin_ewere = where11:57
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TeraDynenicotin_e: You using Fiesty?11:58
feierfox6.20? ooold... 22 id up-to-date guys!!11:58
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vzduchnicotin_e: it's in Feisty11:58
feierfoxwill 22 come in gutsy?11:58
TeraDyneBTW > Linux rescuenet 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Thu Jun 7 20:19:32 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux11:58
vzduchfeierfox: we know.. you're free to build a pkg ;)11:58
nicotin_eTeraDyne: no, i have edgy..11:58
TeraDynenicotin_e: You should upgrade to Fiesty11:59
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nicotin_evzduch, TeraDyne: i will not be able to install new kernel, if i will not upgrade to fiesty fawn?11:59
vzduchnicotin_e: what does a 'apt-cache showpkg linux-image-2.6.10-10-generic' show as to where it's from?11:59
K`zanNickPresta: Found a solution!  Put the following into /etc/rc.local:  /sbin/rmmod nvidia ; /sbin/modprobe nvidia ; /etc/init.d/kdm restart - takes a bit longer to come up and the screens are briefly confusing, but it works!  Thanks again!11:59
nicotin_evzduch: i will check now...12:00
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K`zanNickPresta: Comming straight up the Xorg log reports no screens (same xorg.conf as with nv with the exception of nvidia rather than nv).  No idea, but this kluge works :-).12:00
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nicotin_evzduch: and as we expect... W: Unable to locate package linux-image-2.6.10-10-generic..12:01
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vzduchnicotin_e: then your 'uname -a' is lying12:02
nicotin_ebut he offers linux image version 2.6.17..12:02
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vzduchcould it be that you upgraded from Breezy to Edgy or something?12:02
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nicotin_evzduch: i should give anything to man, that will explain me what the hell is that..12:02
nicotin_eaa.... we have 1:03 AM.... time to rest..12:03
nicotin_eby to everyone..12:03
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vzduch@now berlin12:04
ubotuCurrent time in Europe/Berlin: July 10 2007, 00:04:02 - Next meeting: Kernel Team in 16 hours 55 minutes12:04
feierfoxfine... my firefox crashed ;/12:05
zander__bb ppls12:05
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