[12:14] <zander_> i think i should go its late here
[12:14] <zander_> so bb
[12:14] <zander_> see ya
[12:14] <dr_willis> none of the extra themes seem to work with kbfx.. same issue i saw a few months ago
[12:16] <Kprofthreat> Eh
[12:16] <Kprofthreat> Yeah, this is pretty poor.
[12:17] <Kprofthreat> Even w/ strigi
[12:17] <Kprofthreat> But wait, strigi is poor compared to Kerry anyway
[12:17] <spitwise> after my feisty upgrade my trash icon vanished
[12:17] <prxq> hi. I managed to edit my xorg.conf until I got the right resolution (1280x1024). But now under KDE (feisty) the resolution reverts to 1024x780, and the point'n'click interface refuses to change to the higher resolution. What can I do?
[12:18] <spitwise> nevermind
[12:18] <dr_willis> !info strigi
[12:18] <ubotu> Package strigi does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[12:18] <dr_willis> prxq,  each user can set their own res also. , but that may need a xorg.conf tweak. and that may not be your issue.
[12:18] <prxq> i'm using an nvidia card...
[12:18] <dr_willis> You upgraded to feidty and now the res is wrong?
[12:18] <dr_willis> feisty
[12:18] <dr_willis> :)
[12:20] <prxq> dr_willis: nope. I bought a "new" card (old model), and got it to work (today) in the right res in X and kdm. the old card got that resolution using the vesa driver.
[12:20] <prxq> all the time under feisty.
[12:21] <prxq> The easiest would be for kde to use the same resolution as the display manager.
[12:22] <dr_willis> prxq,  well eqch user can set theior own.. which might be your case
[12:22] <dr_willis> I always try to set kdm to use a lower res. so the fonts/words are bigger for my wife. :)
[12:23] <heiko_> hi @
[12:23] <prxq> dr_willis: I can set the resolution in kcontrol, or using the system settings menu point in the kde menue. Thing is, it doesn't work. It stays with the old res.
[12:24] <ninHer> ..or just type a simple crtl + to make it bigger
[12:24] <BluesKaj> prxq, have you setup the monitor drivers , sometimes ppl forget about their monitors ,,plugnplay vesa is ok but you'll have more res options if you install the right monitor driver
[12:25] <BluesKaj> not just your graphics card
[12:26] <prxq> BluesKaj: you mean, right res @ right freq? How is that with flat panels? Do i still need the freq?
[12:26] <adaptr> yes
[12:26] <adaptr> the specs should be in the manual
[12:27] <afmpaz> hola
[12:27] <eboxnet> hello ppl
[12:27] <afmpaz> alguien habla espanol
[12:27] <prxq> ok i'll reset X. bbiab
[12:28] <afmpaz> i new on linux and installing a get a problem
[12:28] <dr_willis> ask way.. You may wan to try the
[12:28] <dr_willis> !es
[12:28] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:28] <dr_willis> channels also.
[12:30] <Squirrely_Wrath> Got a small issue.  Every time I start Kubuntu, Kate opens up with some beryl manager document up.  I try to tell the I change the autostart string in the beryl manager document to False and it says I do not have the permission to save settings.  How do I fix that?
[12:31] <afmpaz> ok, but before of get out of here, can you help me with this warning:
[12:31] <afmpaz> Warning: File system doesn't have expected sizes for Windows to like it.
[12:31] <afmpaz> Cluster size is 2k (1k expected); number of clusters is 24026 (47959 expected);
[12:31] <afmpaz> size of FATs is 94 sectors (188 expected).
[12:31] <dr_willis> where is that comming from afmpaz ?
[12:32] <Squirrely_Wrath> I don't necessarily need to change the document info, I would just like Kate to not automatically start when I open Kubuntu
[12:32] <afmpaz> from installling ubuntu after make a patition
[12:32] <afmpaz> ubuntu 7.04
[12:32] <dr_willis> sounds like the installer is saying your windows partitions are a little weird.
[12:32] <afmpaz> on a dell presicion 470
[12:33] <dr_willis> its not talking about the dell recovery partition is it?
[12:33] <prxq> hi. I did set up a monitor with the freq. & res. from the manual. It works in kdm, but not in kde. The resolution slider only offers me one frequency (52 Hz), and simply does not work.
[12:33] <afmpaz> no
[12:35] <afmpaz> i cant get it my english is so but, what do you mean with weird?
[12:35] <dr_willis> weird/odd/strange/nonstandard
[12:36] <dr_willis> it seems to be saying that your existing windows partitions are unusual.
[12:36] <klobster> is it possible to switch (1234567890) keys to always be shifted? (!@#$%^&*)?
[12:36] <dr_willis> klobster,  cant say that ive seen that done :)
[12:36] <dr_willis> or why one would want to.
[12:36] <dr_willis> Shiftlock like on the old keyboards? :)
[12:36] <Squirrely_Wrath> Um...is there any way to make Kate open with gksu by default since it insists on opening at startup anyway?
[12:36] <afmpaz> ok thx
[12:37] <klobster> I already have a number pad, and I get tired of shifting when i code.
[12:37] <dr_willis> Squirrely_Wrath,  thats reaching really hard for a fix. :)
[12:37] <dr_willis> !beryl
[12:37] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:37] <klobster> Squirrely_Wrath: edit the shortcut and prepend gksu to it (not recommended)
[12:37] <dr_willis> better to just close it and try the kde's save session tool perhaps?
[12:38] <Squirrely_Wrath> hmmmmm.....okay.  May try that, I'm new to KDE so I don't get everything yet.
[12:38] <klobster> save session is a nogo, I'm afraid (tried it).  just make a shortcut that you keep on the desktop,
[12:39] <klobster> BTW kdesu, not gksu...
[12:40] <Squirrely_Wrath> Was the kdesu for me?  Just wondering cuz gksu has worked for everything else for me.
[12:40] <pagan0ne> anyone know a way to echo some text from a ssh shell, to a xsession running on the remote machine?
[12:42] <Kprofthreat> Why can I only edit the main panel for kicker...
[12:43] <fyrmedic> I set my /etc/network/interfaces up to be a static ip and I can ping my router, I can even ssh to that machine. I can't however ping anything outside my network or go to any url's. Any ideas?
[12:46] <drif> fyrmedic: gateway not set?
[12:47] <Kprofthreat> Why can I only edit the main panel for kicker...
[12:48] <BluesKaj> Kprofthreat, pls explain
[12:48] <Kprofthreat> I added another panel
[12:48] <Kprofthreat> And when I clicked to configure it
[12:48] <Kprofthreat> I only get my default one
[12:49] <Kprofthreat> Like for example, I'm trying to stack two panels
[12:49] <Kprofthreat> But the main one is hidden by the new one, so when I try to configure the second to shrink it, I only can edit the main one.
[12:49] <BluesKaj> perhaps one is locked
[12:49] <Kprofthreat> They're both unlocked
[12:53] <BluesKaj> window behaviour in sys settings .. ?
[12:53] <Kprofthreat> One second
[12:53] <Kprofthreat> Ok. Now then..what about window settings?
[01:04] <sucapulli> ciao
[01:04] <originof[] > lol
[01:04] <sucapulli> ciao
[01:04] <originof[] > ciao
[01:04] <originof[] > asD
[01:04] <sucapulli> tempo previsto XD?
[01:04] <originof[] > asd
[01:04] <sucapulli> 30 secondi XD?
[01:04] <originof[] > 1 minuto
[01:04] <sucapulli> naaaa  troppo XD
[01:04] <originof[] > 3285987456 CALL ME, I LICK R ASS !!!!
[01:05] <BluesKaj> !it | originof[] 
[01:05] <ubotu> originof[] : Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:05] <sucapulli> ahahahaha
[01:05] <originof[] > 3285987456 CALL ME, I LICK R ASS !!!!
[01:05] <originof[] > 3285987456 CALL ME, I LICK R ASS !!!!
[01:05] <originof[] > 3285987456 CALL ME, I LICK R ASS !!!!
[01:05] <originof[] > 3285987456 CALL ME, I LICK R ASS !!!!
[01:05] <originof[] > 3285987456 CALL ME, I LICK R ASS !!!!
[01:05] <sucapulli> sei un pullo manuel
[01:05] <sucapulli> ahahaha
[01:05] <originof[] > 3285987456 CALL ME, I LICK R ASS !!!!
[01:05] <originof[] > 3285987456 CALL ME, I LICK R ASS !!!!
[01:05] <originof[] > 3285987456 CALL ME, I LICK R ASS !!!!
[01:05] <originof[] > 3285987456 CALL ME, I LICK R ASS !!!!
[01:05] <originof[] > 3285987456 CALL ME, I LICK R ASS !!!!
[01:05] <originof[] > 3285987456 CALL ME, I LICK R ASS !!!!
[01:05] <BluesKaj> !ops
[01:05] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!
[01:05] <originof[] > 3285987456 CALL ME, I LICK R ASS !!!!
[01:05] <sucapulli> quanto prendi?
[01:05] <originof[] > 3285987456 CALL ME, I LICK R ASS !!!!
[01:05] <nixternal> what a jerk
[01:05] <AMAURI> salve :D
[01:05] <Squirrely_Wrath> Can anyone tell me how to take stuff out of startup?
[01:05] <Squirrely_Wrath> because Kate AND Xchat open on startup
[01:05] <sucapulli> english:suuuuuuuucaaaa
[01:06] <AMAURI> Hi HO UN MINCHIONE IMPRESSIONANTEEE!!!
[01:07] <BluesKaj> hmmm, couple of 13 yr olds on mommy's pc
[01:07] <nixternal> yup
[01:08] <pagan0ne> BluesKaj: if they were 13 that would give them a excuse, there is no escuse for behavior like that
[01:08] <pagan0ne> i prefer to think of them as the 32 year old virgin loser living in mommys basement :)
[01:08] <frojnd> bwuhaha lol
[01:08] <BluesKaj> not at 13 in real yrs , his mental age
[01:09] <frojnd> rofl
[01:09] <TeraDyne> pagan0ne: You're probably right, too.
[01:09] <pagan0ne> well yes, that may be true
[01:10] <Kprofthreat> I still remember that one time  that noob copied the ubotu help thingy and pasted it
[01:10] <Kprofthreat> He didn't know any better but the ops still banned him
[01:11] <pagan0ne> heh, i was a n00b once too, i can sympathise, now days i ask channel permission before i copy/paste ANYTHING
[01:11] <Kprofthreat> N00bz0rs!
[01:11] <pagan0ne> lol
[01:11] <Kprofthreat> ..Ahem =] 
[01:11] <vzduch> rofl
[01:12] <Kprofthreat> I even ask permission if I can be overly sarcastic or not
[01:12] <Kprofthreat> Example
[01:12] <Kprofthreat> noob: I can't configure amarok. It keeps crashing.
[01:12] <pagan0ne> Kprofthreat: i havent been kicked for being overly scarastic... yet
[01:12] <Kprofthreat> TaJ: Did you try loading SQLite?
[01:13] <Kprofthreat> Me: *Claps 3 times evenly spaced* Well done...
[01:13] <nixternal> pagan0ne: I could grant your wish :)
[01:13] <pagan0ne> lol no thanks nixternal
[01:13] <nixternal> hehe
[01:13] <pagan0ne> anyway im gonna stop going offtopic cuz i just might get kicked for that...
[01:14] <Kprofthreat> Hmm...kick the anti-Zionist
[01:14] <pagan0ne> lol
[01:15] <Kprofthreat> Kick the physically impossible spacial anomaly
[01:15] <pagan0ne> huh?
[01:15] <Kprofthreat> Kick the ironic monetary moniker..oh he left
[01:15] <Kprofthreat> -.-
[01:16] <pagan0ne> kick the one trying to start a small insurection with words....
[01:16] <Kprofthreat> Ok!
[01:16] <pagan0ne> anyway anyone know a way to echo some text from a ssh shell, to a xsession running on the remote machine running kubuntu?
[01:17] <Kprofthreat> Woah woah woah, slow down man. I don't speak greek.
[01:17] <pagan0ne> Kprofthreat: you mean geek?
[01:17] <Kprofthreat> No, I think I meant latin.
[01:17] <Kprofthreat> Sudo -s?
[01:18] <pagan0ne> well then you shouldnt have a problem reading that, its in the geek dialect of the english language
[01:18] <Kprofthreat> Sudo -s
[01:18] <Kprofthreat> Or somethingerather
[01:19] <pagan0ne> Kprofthreat: was the sudo -s directed @ me?
[01:19] <Kprofthreat> Well, pagan0ne, I think I know what you're trying to do but don't know if I ever did it or not, and if I did, I forgot the steps, so yes that might have not been not directed at someone that's possibly you.
[01:20] <pagan0ne> lol thats a improbibaly indirect way at possibly answering, or not answering my question...
[01:21] <Kprofthreat> pagan0ne: Not improbable. Most illogical, maybe.
[01:21] <runpain> Help me some one i cant install ichthux the installer crashes all the time here is the pastbin : http://pastebin.ca/609559
[01:22] <Kprofthreat> !info ichthux
[01:22] <ubotu> Package ichthux does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[01:22] <Kprofthreat> If the bot says it does not exist, it does not exist. NEXT!
[01:22] <pagan0ne> rofl
[01:23] <runpain> ichthux christian linux kde
[01:24] <Kprofthreat> !ichthux
[01:24] <ubotu> Ichthux (Linux for Christians) is an unofficial Kubuntu derivative. See http://www.ichthux.com/
[01:24] <pagan0ne> Kprofthreat: isnt that ironic....
[01:24] <Kprofthreat> Hmm
[01:24] <Kprofthreat> pagan0ne: What is?
[01:25] <pagan0ne> Kprofthreat: you pointing out my anti-zionest ways, them the first Valid questio past that involding a christian based derivitave of our favorite OS
[01:25] <Kprofthreat> You're anti-zionist? Shame!
[01:25] <pagan0ne> and now the simple fact that i cant type
[01:25] <Kprofthreat> Oh wait... pagan0ne..I get it!
[01:25] <dekhelpme> Heylo ..
[01:25] <Kprofthreat> ...o.O
[01:25] <dekhelpme> Everything is gold,.. and I mean everything.. just beautiful
[01:25] <dekhelpme> cept ..
[01:25] <pagan0ne> dek how can we help you?
[01:25] <vzduch> Kprofthreat: the bot seems not to know a number of packages.. e.g. realplay; apt-cache show says it's in main, and the bot says it doesn't exist
[01:26] <dekhelpme> Styles/Themes  -   Dekorator won't install from repo for me
[01:26] <Kprofthreat> pagan0ne: See why I need permission to be sarcastic now?
[01:26] <dekhelpme> well it installs, but it doesn't work, the window manager just dissapears
[01:26] <dekhelpme> am I missing QT or something _like_ that
[01:26] <runpain> Can i get help here
[01:26] <dekhelpme> runpain:  what's up
[01:26] <Kprofthreat> I'm looking into it, runpain.
[01:27] <dekhelpme> nm ;] 
[01:27] <runpain> k
[01:27] <runpain>  thanks kp
[01:27] <dekhelpme> Package: kwin-style-dekorator  <<-- Does not work o_0
[01:27] <Kprofthreat> So, if I understand this right
[01:27] <Kprofthreat> You are trying to add ichthux to your existing kubuntu?
[01:28] <vzduch> runpain: why not install from the repos?
[01:28] <runpain> no want to install on laptop
[01:28] <runpain> because the server is down for repos
[01:28] <vzduch> huh?
[01:28] <vzduch> which server?
[01:28] <Kprofthreat> Check out his runtime error, vz: http://pastebin.ca/609559
[01:29] <runpain> it gets all the way to download from mirror and the installer crashes
[01:29] <dekhelpme> Is there anyone here with compiling abilities able to pack deKorator into a .deb for me?
[01:29] <Kprofthreat> !deKorator
[01:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dekorator - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:30] <Kprofthreat> dekhelpme: Just try sudo apt-get install dekorator
[01:31] <dekhelpme> Kprofthreat: Yah, tried that. the package is kwin-style-dekorator
[01:31] <dekhelpme> Kprofthreat: and it seems to be broken
[01:31] <runpain> i install kubuntu and tried the debs that they say installs the ichthux desk top and do the wget and the server does not work
[01:31] <vzduch> my aptitude says ichthux-desktop is broken
[01:32] <Kprofthreat> Hmm
[01:32] <Kprofthreat> Let me check this
[01:32] <runpain> err the only christian one that has kde desktop and is down that sucks
[01:32] <pagan0ne> Kprofthreat: can i pm you?
[01:32] <vzduch> tried to simulate the install and it gave me a dep conflict
[01:33] <runpain> O_o
[01:33] <Kprofthreat> Hmm, can you find it with adept?
[01:33] <runpain> o_O
[01:33] <runpain> ;{
[01:34] <runpain> and thier channels noone answers
[01:34] <vzduch> http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/1630 <-- my system is in German, so you might have trouble understanding the messages, but I think you'll get the point
[01:35] <Kprofthreat> dekhelpme: Did you try getting this from adept?
[01:35] <dekhelpme> Kprofthreat:  No, i caught that going by just now tho.. gonna try, thx :)
[01:35] <vzduch> runpain: email the maintainers that their package is broken
[01:36] <dekhelpme> although i'm sure apt-get would have gotten the repos, i'll see if there's anything i've missed
[01:36] <mike__> Greets, everyone...
[01:36] <Kprofthreat> dekhelpme: You may have dependency issues.
[01:36] <Kprofthreat> mike__, do you need help?
[01:36] <runpain> i was looking at the paste
[01:37] <vzduch> runpain: you can include that
[01:37] <dekhelpme> Kprofthreat: that's what it feels like .. but this is fresh install, i haven't done anything
[01:37] <dekhelpme> dekhelpme: cept update my repo's and do a full system upgrade
[01:37] <runpain> thanks vz
[01:37] <vzduch> runpain: I can prolong the time that the post stays in the pastebin
[01:37] <drif> am I able to execute some software under X remotely via console?
[01:37] <mike__> Kprofthreat: Yeah, thanks... My swap space has disappeared. ;-\ Already tried re-assigning the swap partition to be swap in the Disk & Filesystems module, to no avail. Any ideas?
[01:37] <runpain> k ill get it now
[01:37] <Kprofthreat> dekhelpme: That can cause a dependency issue.
[01:37] <vzduch> ah, it's set to 1 month
[01:38] <Kprofthreat> dekhelpme: Er...fresh installs anyway, you need to install things from Adept and they should get the dependencies for you.
[01:38] <Kprofthreat> mike__: It's not mounted?
[01:38] <runpain> got friend
[01:38] <dekhelpme> Kprofthreat:  adept is NOT finding dekorator
[01:39] <runpain> got it*
[01:39] <Kprofthreat> It found it for me...
[01:39] <danya_> what is KDE headers ?
[01:39] <mike__> Kprofthreat: How can I tell? I thought swap partitions weren't assigned a mount point?
[01:39] <dekhelpme> Kprofthreat:  I have updated my sources.list manually, am I missing something here
[01:39] <mike__> dekhelpme: kwin-style-dekorator
[01:39] <runpain> ill send it to thier site for bugs
[01:39] <mike__> dekhelpme: Nothing?
[01:39] <dekhelpme> mike__:  Yah, that installs, but when I load it my window manager dissapears till i load a diff one
[01:40] <dekhelpme> kwin-style-dekorator is availible in apt-get but in adept,  dekorator is no where to be found
[01:40] <mike__> dekhelpme: You have to download and install a dekorator theme (check kde-look.org). It doesn't come with any by default
[01:40] <dekhelpme> yah
[01:40] <dekhelpme> i did that
[01:40] <dekhelpme> downloaded 5 to test
[01:40] <dekhelpme> it's like i'm missing QT or whatever dek uses
[01:40] <mike__> dekhelpme: Where'd you extract them to?
[01:40] <dekhelpme> mike__:  I used dekorator to import?
[01:41] <vzduch> runpain: in case you need me to get back on anything of that, I am usually here in the evenings between 2000 and 0100 CEST
[01:41] <Kprofthreat> mike__: What partition software/ sys monitor did you use to check your swap?
[01:41] <dekhelpme> but this seems to be the issue.. how come i can find the package with apt-get but not adept ?
[01:41] <runpain> thks vz
[01:41] <runpain> brb
[01:41] <dekhelpme> Adept has unsupported / proprietary enabled
[01:41] <Kprofthreat> Did you run sudo-apt get update and sudo-apt get upgrade?
[01:41] <dekhelpme> *shrug
[01:41] <mike__> dekhelpme: That didn't work for me when I tried it. Had to manually extract them. I think it was to ~/.kde/share/apps/dekorator/themes, but I could be wrong - been a while since I used dekorator
[01:41] <dekhelpme> sudo apt-get update
[01:41] <runpain> God Bless You all that have been a help
[01:42] <Kprofthreat> Try upgrade
[01:42] <vzduch> dekhelpme: which package?
[01:42] <dekhelpme> wait
[01:42] <dekhelpme> yes
[01:42] <dekhelpme> vzduch: kwin-style-dekorator
[01:42] <danya_> kprofthreat : what's KDE deader ?
[01:42] <Kprofthreat> He doesn't see it in Adept
[01:42] <dekhelpme> vzduch: Adept finds it as just the dekorator package for Kprofthreat
[01:42] <mike__> Kprofthreat: KInfoCenter's memory module and top both say there's 0 swap space
[01:42] <danya_> header*
[01:42] <dekhelpme> but for me Adept doesn't see it at all.. yet apt-get will let me install kwin-style-dekorator <<-- which breaks
[01:43] <vzduch> dielucht@zalle:~$ aptitude search dekorator
[01:43] <vzduch> p   kwin-style-dekorator                                                              - windows decoration for kde using user-supplied PNG files
[01:43] <Kprofthreat> danya_: Headers are files that help you compile source code.
[01:43] <vzduch> dekhelpme: there you have the name
[01:43] <dekhelpme> vzduch:  yah,  that installs fine, but when i enable it under styles
[01:43] <dekhelpme> it doesn't work
[01:43] <Kprofthreat> danya_: What are you trying to do?
[01:43] <danya_> kprofthreat : shall I install everything related to KDE in package manager ?
[01:43] <dekhelpme> vzduch:  you should read what we've been talking about it, i've mentioned it 4 times now that i've installed it manually just fine
[01:44] <dekhelpme> with apt-get
[01:44] <mike__> Kprofthreat: KControl's Disk & Filesystems module is showing the swap partition, but under the Mount Point column for it (which I thought should be blank for swap partitions?), it just says "<mount point>"
[01:44] <dekhelpme> why can i not see it with Adept?
[01:44] <mike__> Err, one sec...
[01:44] <danya_> Kprofthreat : Im trying to install a theme .. and whenever I configure the output is that
[01:44] <danya_> are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[01:44] <danya_> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[01:44] <Kprofthreat> danya_: I have just the solution for you. One second.
[01:45] <vzduch> dekhelpme: why do you care if you did get it installed? :)
[01:45] <dekhelpme> lil build essentials and some linux-headers-'uname -a' etc etc
[01:45] <dekhelpme> vzduch:  CAUSE IT INSTALLS BUT WHEN I CHOOSE IT, MY WINDOW MANAGER DISSAPEARS, EVEN USING 10 DIFFERENT THEMES
[01:45] <Kprofthreat> danza_: Open up Adept and search for kdebase-dev
[01:45] <dekhelpme> sorry capz
[01:46] <Kprofthreat> danza_: Also make sure you have the latest lib dev packages.
[01:46] <mike__> Kprofthreat: Ok, I think I'm good. Stupid mistake on my part. I'm still curious as to why that would've happened though - it's like the swap partition just took a notion to try and get the day off or something. :-\ Any ideas?
[01:46] <danya_> kprofthreat : whats Adept ? lol .. I've only been using this for a couple of days
[01:46] <dekhelpme> How come I can't find a program via adept
[01:46] <dekhelpme> wtf is with that
[01:47] <mike__> dekhelpme: Use Synaptic. It's better ;-) (Although I make no claim that will solve the particular problem you're having)
[01:47] <Kprofthreat> mike_: I'm afraid not. I've never had that happen before.
[01:47] <TeraDyne> danya_: you need the KDE headers?
[01:47] <Kprofthreat> danya_: No problem. =] 
[01:47] <Kprofthreat> danya_: Type alt + f2
[01:47] <danya_> TeraDyne : yes
[01:47] <dekhelpme> okay i found it in adept, it's there, installed.. but  my window manager still dissapears when i  enable it
[01:48] <Kprofthreat> Or nvm
[01:48] <Kprofthreat> Just go and click on your menu
[01:48] <danya_> kprofthreat : and ?
[01:48] <Kprofthreat> Go to system>>>adept
[01:48] <TeraDyne> danya_: "sudo aptitude install kdelibs4-dev" for the KDE 3.x development headers
[01:48] <Kprofthreat> Adept/Synaptic = your friend. =] 
[01:48] <Kprofthreat> That works too.
[01:48] <dekhelpme> i like command line and have no problem with apt-get
[01:48] <Kprofthreat> !aterm
[01:49] <Kprofthreat> !info aterm
[01:49] <Kprofthreat> !info eterm
[01:49] <TeraDyne> botlag
[01:49] <Kprofthreat> ...Blargh
[01:49] <danya_> kprofthreat : I know how to use synaptic .. I'm just confused because there are too many KDE packages
[01:49] <dekhelpme> last time I built dekorator from scratch and it worked fine, but the package is broken in apt-get .. Has anyone here even tried to use it?
[01:49] <mike__> Kprofthreat: On a completely unrelated note, I'm having another strange problem with suspend/resume on a laptop - Sometimes when I resume, the display doesn't turn on, so I have to hit the suspend key and then power it back up and everything's fine.
[01:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aterm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:49] <ubotu> aterm: Afterstep XVT - a VT102 emulator for the X window system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0-4 (feisty), package size 81 kB, installed size 228 kB
[01:49] <ubotu> eterm: Enlightened Terminal Emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.4.0debian1-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 415 kB, installed size 1100 kB
[01:49] <dekhelpme> danya_: sec
[01:49] <arthas__> what is the channel for kubuntu in Spanish?
[01:49] <arthas__> pls
[01:49] <vzduch> !es | arthas__
[01:49] <ubotu> arthas__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:49] <Kprofthreat> If there is one, I'd guess kubuntu-es
[01:49] <kobiwan> I had gnome and beryl - I went and got KDE and now beryl wont work Please if some one can help me
[01:49] <Kprofthreat> Oh look at that
[01:50] <arthas__> tanks
[01:50] <arthas__> gracias
[01:50] <aznpridechinese> can someone help me do something? i'm using kubuntu feisty and i want to switch to ubuntu instead, how do i get my dvd writer to write me an ubuntu cd using an ISO file?
[01:50] <Kprofthreat> De nada
[01:50] <vzduch> de nada :)
[01:50] <mike__> kobiwan: Beryl won't even work under Gnome anymore?
[01:50] <dekhelpme> danya_: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`
[01:50] <vzduch> !k3b | aznpridechinese
[01:50] <ubotu> aznpridechinese: k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[01:50] <Kprofthreat> Did you make a separate session for KDE?
[01:50] <dekhelpme> danya_:  type that, then re-run what you were doing and you will be a-okay
[01:50] <kobiwan> what do you mean why not It was working 3 days ago??
[01:51] <mike__> kobiwan: I was asking. ;-)
[01:51] <kobiwan> ohhhhh oki sorry
[01:51] <dekhelpme> and i guess i'm going to have to install compiling capabilities on my machine because dekorator isn't working for me from the packages
[01:51] <mike__> Heh, np
[01:51] <dekhelpme> can anyone try to install/run dekorator
[01:51] <dekhelpme> and verify it's just me
[01:52] <dekhelpme> or if it's actually a bug
[01:52] <Kprofthreat> Oddly enough, it didn't wanna install through sudo apt-get for me.
[01:52] <Kprofthreat> =/
[01:52] <mike__> dekhelpme: Did you try what I said with manually installing the themes (i.e., unzipping them to ~/.kde/share/apps/dekorator/themes)?
[01:52] <kobiwan> I don't know how do I back to gnome to check
[01:52] <dekhelpme> mike__:  i missed that but will try now, thankyou
[01:52] <Kprofthreat> Are you in KDE right now?
[01:52] <dekhelpme> yep
[01:52] <mike__> dekhelpme: Np
[01:52] <dekhelpme> sec trying mikes method
[01:52] <danya_> dekhelpme : can u rewrite the command again plz :)
[01:53] <Kprofthreat> kobiwan: You're going to need to log out and select the gnome session before you log in again
[01:53] <mike__> kobiwan: Select Gnome as the session at the login screen
[01:53] <mike__> kobiwan: You should be using Compiz-Fusion instead of Beryl anyway though - Beryl's dead, as in, no more updates
[01:53] <Flegma> pls how can i remove package without removing dependencies????
[01:53] <Kprofthreat> mike__: Agreed.
[01:54] <Kprofthreat> kobiwan: I'd suggest uninstalling Beryl completely...
[01:54] <Kprofthreat> kobiwan: sudo apt-get remove beryl-manager beryl-settings emerald-settings
[01:54] <Kprofthreat> What GPU?
[01:54] <aznpridechinese> so do i want to use burn dvd iso image for what i watn to do?
[01:55] <Kprofthreat> aznpridechinese: Are you trying to burn a live dvd?
[01:55] <mike__> Actually, Compiz-Fusion can still use Emerald, so you may want to keep Beryl installed (at least until they sort out the dependency issue with Emerald/Beryl)
[01:55] <aznpridechinese> no, just an installation dvd from an iso file
[01:55] <dekhelpme> mike__:  I tried, but it wouldn't let me overwrite the files that are already there, imported fine.. so i forced it, same issue
[01:55] <dekhelpme> Kprofthreat:  so when you sudo apt-get install kwin-style-dekorator
[01:55] <kobiwan> oki is Compiz better
[01:55] <danya_> dekhelpme : plz can u rewrite the command again :) ?
[01:55] <aznpridechinese> and i can't mess up cuz i only have 1 more dvd left
[01:55] <dekhelpme> Kprofthreat:  and a theme, did it work
[01:55] <mike__> dekhelpme: Did you install it as root or something?
[01:55] <Kprofthreat> mike__: Meh. Don't HAVE to do that.
[01:55] <dekhelpme> danya_: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`
[01:56] <mike__> Kprofthreat: ?
[01:56] <veaux> Hi, searching here for some help configuring Beryl
[01:56] <Kprofthreat> dekhelpme: I didn't try it.
[01:56] <dekhelpme> mike__:  uhm, dekorator yes, the theme no
[01:56] <Kprofthreat> dekhelpme: Let's see your sources.list
[01:57] <mike__> dekhelpme: Weird. Can't imagine why it wouldn't let you overwrite. Are the themes that you installed even showing up when you go to choose them?
[01:57] <Kprofthreat> veaux: We're a bit backlogged right now. If you don't get an immediate reply, try #ubuntu-effects or #beryl
[01:57] <veaux> thx
[01:58] <danya_> dekhelpme : I'm still getting the same error .. no kDE headers :(
[01:58] <mike__> veaux: You'd be better off going with Compiz-Fusion over Beryl, since Beryl's pretty much abandonware at this point
[01:58] <qkhn> Selamlar..
[01:58] <qkhn> iyi geceler
[01:58] <runpain> ichthux what is thier problem thought they would want to be sure they could have a good product
[01:58] <dekhelpme> danya_:  SEC
[01:58] <Kprofthreat> mike__: While I find Compiz Fusion smoother than Beryl, it is still alpha-ware and therefore may not be for everyone's boxes.
[01:58] <qkhn> Trk yokmu?
[01:59] <Flegma> pls how can i remove package without removing dependencies????
[01:59] <veaux> mike_: will search for this one. I hope my issue is resolved in this one
[01:59] <dekhelpme> danya_: sudo apt-get install kdebase-dev
[01:59] <qkhn> or can you speak turkish?
[01:59] <dekhelpme> danya_:  that should get you the kde headers
[01:59] <Kprofthreat> ..Do we have a turkish channel?
[01:59] <dekhelpme> pastebin is taking forever
[01:59] <qkhn> turkish channel?
[01:59] <kobiwan> is it difficult to install "Compiz-Fusion" ?
[01:59] <qkhn> are there?
[01:59] <mike__> Kprofthreat: Depends on what plugins you enable that determines its stability. Most people, from what I've seen, say C-F is more stable than Beryl. I'm inclined to agree with them
[01:59] <mike__> kobiwan: Have you ever added a repository?
[02:00] <kobiwan> I think so
[02:00] <Kprofthreat> mike__: It's crashed kwin a few times, but other than that, it's pretty smooth for alphaware.
[02:00] <mike__> kobiwan: If so, it's just as easy as installing Beryl.
[02:00] <Kprofthreat> mike__: If he installed Beryl, he edited his sources.list.
[02:00] <Kprofthreat> Brb all.
[02:00] <dekhelpme> mike__:  Yah the themese are there.. i installed dekorator as root, you have to.. then i went into kcontrol via my own user account and imported .. i've also done the manual install
[02:00] <mike__> Kprofthreat: Not manually, necessarily ;-)
[02:00] <kobiwan> yes I did edit my source list
[02:01] <mike__> dekhelpme: One sec...
[02:01] <dekhelpme> Kprofthreat: http://pastebin.com/944615
[02:01] <mike__> kobiwan: Check here: http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/index.html - You want the "eye candy" repository
[02:02] <mike__> dekhelpme: Did you set all the paths?
[02:03] <runpain> gona download older version
[02:03] <dekhelpme> mike__:  Frames and Buttons?  no...
[02:03] <dekhelpme> mike__:  Didn't do that last time either
[02:04] <mike__> dekhelpme: I think that's what you're missing. I had to do that to get it to work, if I remember correctly
[02:04] <dekhelpme> mike__:  reeeallly.. okay.. *gives it a shot
[02:04] <Seek_Therapy> whats the default port for ROR
[02:04] <dekhelpme> thx
[02:04] <dr_willis> ROR ?
[02:05] <Kprofthreat> kobiwan: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=481314
[02:05] <Seek_Therapy> ruby on rails
[02:05] <mike__> dekhelpme: It seems weird that you would have to do that, as it kind of defeats the purpose of telling it what theme to use, but whatever. I didn't code it. :-P
[02:06] <dekhelpme> mike__:  You are my hero
[02:06] <dekhelpme> mike__:  Absolutely
[02:06] <dekhelpme> mike__:  I owe you buddy
[02:06] <dekhelpme> lol
[02:06] <dekhelpme> hooray i didn't have to compile anything from source this install!
[02:06] <dekhelpme> Mike
[02:06] <dekhelpme> .... I am so happy
[02:06] <dekhelpme> you dun know
[02:06] <dekhelpme> thanks buddy
[02:07] <dekhelpme> thanks Kprofthreat alot for tryin too
[02:07] <dekhelpme> ohhh
[02:07] <Kprofthreat> Pfft, for trying. Lol
[02:07] <BluesKaj> !tr
[02:07] <dekhelpme> hoorah
[02:07] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[02:07] <dekhelpme> wow
[02:07] <dekhelpme> okay
[02:07] <dekhelpme> gonna go change my panties
[02:07] <dekhelpme> thanks again
[02:07] <aznpridechinese> question, if i click on an iso would it automatically burn the image onto a dvd for me in k3d?
[02:07] <aznpridechinese> k3b
[02:08] <TeraDyne> aznpridechinese: yes
[02:08] <BluesKaj> if you right click on it you can choose yes
[02:10] <Squirrely_Wrath> Can anyone tell me how to remove a program from startup?  Xchat automatically starts up everytime I boot ant it is driving me insane.
[02:11] <BluesKaj> yeah , especially xchat , that drive me round the bend too :)
[02:11] <sven-tek> hello kubuntu users
[02:11] <sven-tek> iam just using a feisty kubuntu live cd
[02:11] <sven-tek> iam testing kmail with my imap server - i can not get the account to work
[02:12] <sven-tek> at some point i tried "login" as authentication method and now i can not set it back
[02:12] <sven-tek> iam am caught between two dialogs
[02:13] <mike__> Well, I'm off to play some Frets on Fire. Peace out, everyone.
[02:14] <sven-tek> error: this authentication method is not supported" and then o click ok - and then the password dialog appears. and no matter what i do i can not go to another kmail window
[02:14] <sven-tek> even killing it and restarting kmail did not help
[02:17] <BluesKaj> Squirrely_Wrath, just a thought are you closing xchat before shutting down the pc?
[02:17] <stoned> flash stuff seems to randomly crash konqueror or firefox in kubuntu
[02:18] <stoned> total browser lockup
[02:18] <BluesKaj> Squirrely_Wrath, and another , there might be an option in xchat itself to launch itself upon login
[02:18] <stoned> what gives
[02:19] <Squirrely_Wrath> I haven't noticed an option anywhere and...um...I'll have to check on the closing thing
[02:19] <Squirrely_Wrath> sooooooooooooo brb
[02:21] <vzduch> mornin' intelikey
[02:21] <BluesKaj> stoned, install flashplugin-nonfree and if you wish  flashplayer-nonfree
[02:22] <intelikey> vzduch
[02:22] <danya_> how to install phyton libraries and headers ? through terminal not Synaptic
[02:23] <danya_> python*
[02:23] <dr_willis> danya_,  may want to read the apt-get manual. Finding the package names may be the hardest part
[02:23] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install Whatever
[02:23] <dr_willis> apt-cache search whatever
[02:23] <dr_willis> to get package names
[02:23] <gilster> what audio editing tool can i use to split a large mp3/wav file into tracks using a premade cue file?
[02:23] <dr_willis> apt-cache search python
[02:23] <dr_willis> !find python
[02:23] <ubotu> Found: bittornado, diveintopython, diveintopython-zh, libapache2-mod-python, libapache2-mod-python-doc (and 621 others)
[02:23] <dr_willis> 621 others... :)
[02:24] <dr_willis> !info diveintopython
[02:24] <ubotu> diveintopython: free Python book for experienced programmers. In component main, is optional. Version 5.4-2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 340 kB, installed size 4220 kB
[02:24] <intelikey> apt-cache search python | grep dev
[02:24] <dr_willis> Cool.. Not seen that package befor.
[02:24] <Squirrely_Wrath> Yaaaaaaaaaaaay!  The suggestion worked!  Now I have another problem. lol
[02:24] <dr_willis> !info diveintopython-zh
[02:24] <ubotu> diveintopython-zh: free Python book for experienced programmers. In component main, is optional. Version 5.4-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 484 kB, installed size 3584 kB
[02:24] <dr_willis> wonder what -zh means...
[02:24] <dr_willis> different language?
[02:24] <intelikey> yeah
[02:24] <danya_> dr_willis : U just got me more confused :P
[02:25] <dr_willis> whats zh then? :)
[02:25] <intelikey> !zh
[02:25] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[02:25] <vzduch> dr_willis: Chinese perhaps
[02:25] <dr_willis> danya_,  time to get learning then! :)
[02:25] <danya_> dr_willis : after all it's 3:30 a.m over here :P
[02:25] <dr_willis> But Pythons are from South AMerica.. they dont live in china!
[02:25] <dr_willis> :)
[02:25] <vzduch> lol
[02:25] <TeraDyne> XD
[02:25] <Squirrely_Wrath> When I booted up, My computer said something like sda/hda1 has been mounted 22 times without being checked.  Check forced.   Anything I can do about that?
[02:26] <intelikey> dr_willis you sure they don't live in southern asia too ?
[02:26] <dr_willis> I thought that was some other snake down there...
[02:26] <doudou92> Squirrely
[02:26] <Squirrely_Wrath> yes?
[02:26] <doudou92> What format is used for your disk?
[02:26] <dr_willis> I cant seem to rember any tv shows with large constictors   that were not in South America.. How about Austrila?
[02:27] <dr_willis> perhaps they took a bus. ;)
[02:27] <intelikey> maybe a boat
[02:27] <TeraDyne> No, they took a plane.
[02:27] <Squirrely_Wrath> um....not totally sure.  I am using the standard ubuntu formats.  ext3, got a small fat32 for my dualboot setup.  Also got the swap
[02:27] <intelikey> dr_willis google knos
[02:27] <intelikey> w
[02:28] <dr_willis> Actually I seem to recall Hawaii getting invaded by some small snake from Some where from Asia.
[02:28] <BluesKaj> dr_willis, wanna bet...pythons are found all around the world
[02:28] <TeraDyne> I wonder...
[02:28] <dr_willis> BluesKaj,  theres none in my backyard! :)
[02:28] <dr_willis> Actually they did find one in a local river.. like 20 ft long.. dead. (yea)
[02:28] <dr_willis> then it came out. it was a Pet someone had dumped.
[02:28] <BluesKaj> you should be glad about that
[02:28] <doudou92> I have the same "problem" with an ext3 formated disk. I think it's a security but it didn't appear to be anormal.
[02:28] <dr_willis> It was dead to begin when he dumped it.. Honest! :)
[02:29] <Squirrely_Wrath> okay.  Just wondering.  Not used to that kinda thing
[02:29] <intelikey> you can bet if i dumped one it would be dead.
[02:30] <intelikey> me and a friend killed over 300 snakes in one day.  local water shed pond
[02:30] <dr_willis> Meanie!
[02:30] <Squirrely_Wrath> Oh!  y the way, this is really little, but anyone know where I can get an icon for the kde control center?
[02:30] <dr_willis> :)
[02:30] <Squirrely_Wrath> by*
[02:31] <ciacon> hi guys - has anyone got an Idea about teamspeak on Kubuntu??
[02:31] <dr_willis> Squirrely_Wrath,  i always add the control-panel applet to my panel.
[02:31] <NickPresta> Squirrely_Wrath, kde-look.org/ has tons of icons and such for everything. check there
[02:31] <dr_willis> ciacon,  ive had it working under linux befor.. not lately however.
[02:31] <Squirrely_Wrath> dr_willis I didn't have any control panel applets.  I had to make a launcher for it manually.
[02:32] <intelikey> Squirrely_Wrath the houndreds of icons to choose from already on your system not enough ?
[02:32] <dr_willis> Squirrely_Wrath,  odd.. I always seem to have one. :)   addaplet to panel -> settings
[02:32] <Squirrely_Wrath> intelikey I know there are tons, I am just trying to keep everything polished as possible so I was trying to go with the default
[02:33] <ciacon> dr_willis: it's not necisarily a current problem
[02:33] <ciacon> I am on a channel with a mate... he is complaining, that he can hear himself echo and any sound that is off my desktop (e.g. mp3 player)...
[02:34] <intelikey> you know i actually use a default kernel on one system...  that's so unlike me to leave anything default...
[02:34] <ciacon> i should mybe note, that I am wearing headphones, and that this path of sound is to be ruled out
[02:36] <dr_willis> check your mixer perhaps.
[02:36] <dr_willis> I recall some how haveing a 'what you hear' or similer thing in various voice chat programs also.
[02:36] <dr_willis> depending on the mixer settings.
[02:36] <intelikey> high ho ?      what kind of message are you trying to convay with that  nickname?
[02:36] <ciacon> dr_willis: where would I start? I have no idea, why my sound is (from speakers) is in the mic
[02:37] <wolferine> im just setting up a new DB, what is the most commonly used 'type' for username, person's name, address, etc? length?
[02:37] <intelikey> ciacon input volume too high ?
[02:37] <|HighHo|> no message at all, its just a nickname
[02:38] <wolferine> any "strings"
[02:38] <sven-tek> kmail is crap
[02:38] <dr_willis> ciacon,  fire up alsamixer and start twiddling I guess.
[02:38] <crash_> Algum brasileiro
[02:38] <TeraDyne> sven-tek: how so?
[02:39] <vzduch> !br | crash_
[02:39] <ubotu> crash_: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[02:39] <crash_> tanks
[02:39] <sven-tek> i wanted to do some testing with pgp compatibility but i didnt even get so far
[02:39] <sven-tek> i crashes from the livecd when i enter my imap account
[02:39] <sven-tek> ^it
[02:39] <crash_> ^
[02:39] <crash_> ^^
[02:40] <intelikey> sven-tek libe CD ...    which flavour ?
[02:40] <ciacon> dr_willis: it was the mixer settings ;-)... I had the record settings on for the "wave"
[02:40] <sven-tek> kubuntu 7.04 desktop of course
[02:41] <intelikey> ummm hmmm
[02:42] <intelikey> sad "the average U.S. household has 2.55 people and 2.73 TVs."
[02:42] <aznpridechinese> need help, i just tried burning an iso image to my dvd with k3b but it gave me a reformatting error and it just started burning it then at the end it said some kind of buffer error
[02:43] <BluesKaj> aznpridechinese, try to play the dvd anyway , it may still work
[02:44] <BluesKaj> i've had such errors in the pastand the burn was fine , strange but true
[02:45] <aznpridechinese> the iso was the installation for for ubuntu
[02:45] <aznpridechinese> the cd didn't boot when i restarted the computer
[02:45] <intelikey> sounds like you made a frisby
[02:45] <BluesKaj> did you run the checksum previous to the burn
[02:46] <aznpridechinese> what is that?
[02:46] <aznpridechinese> u wonna walk me through it?
[02:46] <aznpridechinese> i got 1 more dvd left
[02:47] <dr_willis> You are burning the DVD iso image?
[02:47] <dr_willis> not the cd iso image?
[02:47] <aznpridechinese> yes
[02:47] <aznpridechinese> dvd iso image
[02:47] <dr_willis> dvd iso image of what exactly anyway?
[02:47] <aznpridechinese> a ubuntu installation dvd
[02:47] <dr_willis> why are ya even bothering with the dvd image. :)
[02:48] <aznpridechinese> cuz i don't have any cds available atm
[02:48] <aznpridechinese> but will soon
[02:48] <dr_willis> heh.
[02:48] <dr_willis> these are dvd+RW's ?
[02:48] <aznpridechinese> yes
[02:48] <dr_willis> so you shouwl be able to format/erase them :)
[02:48] <aznpridechinese> that's the thing, k3b couldn't do it
[02:49] <aznpridechinese> it gave me an error
[02:49] <dr_willis> k3b will scan/calculage the checksum on the iso file also. to be sure its correct
[02:49] <dr_willis> I dont even have a DVD+RW to try to format the things.
[02:49] <BluesKaj> aznpridechinese, http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Ubuntu/2007-02/msg01827.html
[02:49] <intelikey> i don't even have a dvd player
[02:49] <dr_willis> I dont even have a computer!
[02:50] <dr_willis> :)
[02:50] <aznpridechinese> and the thing is, i've burned my kubuntu installation dvd in windows vista just fine
[02:50] <dr_willis> uoq s,ndo 
[02:50] <aznpridechinese> so i know it's got to be the program
[02:50] <dr_willis> run k3b from the terminal and see if any errors show up. maby it needs some extra support apps
[02:51] <CrunchyFerrett> .
[02:51] <CrunchyFerrett> !en
[02:51] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[02:51] <BluesKaj> aznpridechinese, did you check the URL I posted above ?
[02:51] <aznpridechinese> yes, i'm a linux noob so i don't really know what they said
[02:51] <dr_willis> From what i can tell in k3b - the 'dvd+rw-format' command/package needs to be installed.
[02:52] <dr_willis> k3b->settings->setup k3b ->programs
[02:52] <dr_willis> dvd+rw-format  --help
[02:53] <dr_willis> usage: dvd+rw-format  /dev/dvddevice
[02:53] <aznpridechinese> dr willis my k3b doesn't have those menus
[02:53] <BluesKaj> IC aznpridechinese , so you're in windows right now ?
[02:54] <dr_willis> what version of kubutu ya got? check them again. :)
[02:54] <aznpridechinese> no
[02:54] <aznpridechinese> i'm in kubuntu
[02:54] <dr_willis> or use the command line.
[02:54] <aznpridechinese> feisty
[02:54] <aznpridechinese> i don't know what the commands are
[02:54] <dr_willis> Im using feisty also.. check agagin.
[02:54] <dr_willis> I just pasted themn :)
[02:54] <dr_willis> usage: dvd+rw-format  /dev/dvddevice
[02:54] <dr_willis> now what dvddevice is - is the question
[02:56] <intelikey> for Q in /dev/scd* /dev/hd? ;do eject $Q && echo $Q ;done
[02:56] <aznpridechinese> the command you gave me said * BD/DVD+RW/-RAM format utility by <appro@fy.chalmers.se>, version 7.0 :-( unable to open :"/dev/dvddevice"): No such file or directory
[02:57] <dr_willis> aznpridechinese,  now 'think' about what its saying...
[02:57] <dr_willis> you need to FIND out what device your DVD is.
[02:58] <dr_willis> and use that /dev/whatevertheheckitis
[02:58] <dr_willis> ls -l /dev/dvd MIGHT show a useable device.. so /dev/dvd MIGHT work
[02:58] <dr_willis> it might now
[02:58] <dr_willis> not.
[02:58] <dr_willis> ls -l /dev/dvd
[02:58] <dr_willis> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2007-07-05 01:13 /dev/dvd -> scd0
[02:58] <intelikey> for Q in /dev/scd* /dev/hd? ;do eject $Q && echo $Q ;done
[02:58] <dr_willis> is what i got here..  Do you have a /dev/dvd ?
[02:59] <aznpridechinese> yah it showed /dev/dvd -> hda
[02:59] <dr_willis> intelikey,  :) like ejecting the cd to see what machine you are sshed to. :)
[02:59] <dr_willis> out of the whole room of pcs
[02:59] <dr_willis> aznpridechinese,  so use /dev/dvd then
[02:59] <intelikey> dr_willis hey if it works.
[02:59] <dr_willis> Hmm.. why is yours hda and myne scd
[03:00] <aznpridechinese> ok it says 4.7GB DVD+RW media detected when i ran dvd+rw-format  /dev/dvddevice
[03:00] <aznpridechinese> well /dev/dvd
[03:02] <aznpridechinese>  now what?
[03:02] <dr_willis> did it do somthing to the disk?
[03:02] <dr_willis> that command should of formated the disk
[03:03] <dr_willis>  ive never used the command befor.. and cant even test it on any +RW's since i got none.   The full option list for the command is     dvd+rw-format  [-force[=full] ]   [-lead-out  |  -blank[=full] ]   [-ssa[=none  |  default | max] ]  /dev/dvd
[03:03] <dr_willis> dvd+rw-format -force=full /dev/dvd
[03:03] <dr_willis> will proberly force a total reformat of the disk.
[03:04] <aznpridechinese> i think someone is hacking my computer
[03:05] <aznpridechinese> my mouse lags like hell and my keyboard goes crazy typing things that i didn't put there
[03:05] <aznpridechinese> then my whole system locks up
[03:05] <NickPresta> aznpridechinese, aside from that, what makes you think your computer's security has been compromised?
[03:06] <dr_willis> :)
[03:06] <aznpridechinese> well i know computers don't just do stuff like that
[03:06] <dr_willis> sounds like a normal windows machine to me.
[03:06] <aznpridechinese> i'm not using windows
[03:06] <aznpridechinese> i'm in kubuntu feisty
[03:06] <dr_willis> i doubt if anyone 'hacked' into your feisty box.
[03:06] <dr_willis> its possible theres some hardware issues going on.
[03:06] <NickPresta> aznpridechinese, do you get any strange errors at boot up or do you have to do anything to cause these problems to happen? Can you reproduce them at any time? And are you on a laptop?
[03:07] <frojnd> how can I shutdown server? and how can I shut down ubuntu in with command line?
[03:07] <aznpridechinese> no i'm on a high end pc
[03:07] <aznpridechinese> and no i don't get any errors on bootup
[03:07] <intelikey> aznpridechinese check your logs
[03:07] <aznpridechinese> in anycase i'd just like to burn ubuntu iso image onto my dvd-rw disc
[03:07] <aznpridechinese> how do i check the log?
[03:08] <NickPresta> being on a high-end system doesn't mean you can't have hardware support problems. You should go to pastebin and post the output of "dmesg" and "lshw".
[03:08] <intelikey> you search through them ?
[03:08] <dr_willis> high end pc. dosent meanmuch.. If you system is having hardware issues that may be whats going on with the burning also.
[03:08] <intelikey> aznpridechinese /var/log/*
[03:08] <zer0> hello
[03:08] <HighHo> frojnd:  init 6
[03:08] <zer0> kan anyone speek private?
[03:08] <aznpridechinese> how do i paste it?
[03:08] <NickPresta> aznpridechinese, also, check out /var/log/syslog, /var/log/boot
[03:08] <vzduch> HighHo: 'init 6' == reboot; for shutdown use 'init 0'
[03:09] <intelikey> and "high end" does mean that the hardware is probably not nearly as well supported
[03:09] <NickPresta> sorry, not /var/log/boot
[03:09] <intelikey> !paste | aznpridechinese
[03:09] <ubotu> aznpridechinese: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:09] <BluesKaj> zer0, just ask your question
[03:10] <aznpridechinese> i can't access the text in GUI so i don't know how to actually copy everything in CLI and paste them into GUI
[03:10] <intelikey> zer0 most of us only speek english
[03:10] <dr_willis> cant access what text in gui?
[03:10] <dr_willis> fire up konsole, and use the commands there..
[03:10] <dr_willis> !konsole
[03:10] <dr_willis> !term
[03:10] <intelikey> !cli
[03:11] <dr_willis> !sexy beach 3
[03:11] <dr_willis> :)
[03:11] <intelikey> dead bot
[03:11] <NickPresta> aznpridechinese, also, you may want to check out "top" in a console, and see if there are any odd spikes in usage that can be attributed to these problems.
[03:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konsole - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about term - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:11] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[03:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sexy beach 3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:11] <dr_willis> !lag
[03:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lag - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:11] <vzduch> o0
[03:12] <aznpridechinese> what is top in a console?
[03:12] <stoned> ubotu: you don't know nothin
[03:13] <stoned> aznpridechinese: processor monitor
[03:13] <aznpridechinese> and i still can't figure out how to to paste from CLI to a GUI
[03:13] <stoned> I like htop
[03:13] <stoned> aznpridechinese: just select whatever you want
[03:13] <NickPresta> any variation of top is fine ;)
[03:13] <stoned> then paste with middle click
[03:13] <stoned> or click the mousewheel
[03:13] <aznpridechinese> well this thing that freezes up my computer and types things hasn't happened before, and i've been using linux for about 5 days now
[03:14] <stoned> don't give up
[03:14] <aznpridechinese> it only lets me select so much though
[03:14] <stoned> what thing freezes up?
[03:14] <intelikey> ".net is designed specially to be used by 4.0 browsers and above. If you are using an older version, you may download the latest free by clicking the following: Internet Explorer and/or Netscape Navigator"        hehheh !   i'm using " ELinks 0.10.6 "   :)
[03:14] <oslo> hi do you know how to use cross-compiling ? arm-linux ???
[03:14] <dr_willis> oslo,  i recall the 'nslu' unslung web site had some docs on tha topic. :)
[03:14] <dr_willis> since i think the NSLU2 used an ARM cpu.
[03:14] <stoned> go to #ubuntu
[03:15] <intelikey> aznpridechinese one simple test.  if you think that there is really a cracker on your box.   disconnect it from the net and see if it changes.
[03:15] <dr_willis> i wonder where my NSLU2 went...
[03:15] <intelikey> oh duh no one can disconnect anymore.... what am i thinking.....
[03:15] <stoned> nslu sounds like a university name
[03:15] <oslo> dr_willis> i gonna check
[03:15] <dr_willis> intelikey,  :)
[03:16] <intelikey> :)
[03:16] <BluesKaj> aznpridechinese, type the word ' top ' in the konsole, you'll find Konsole in the k-menu in the "system "
[03:16] <aznpridechinese> ok
[03:19] <aznpridechinese> top showed a bunch of things processes and root users etc
[03:19] <oslo> dr_willis> this one http://www.nslu2-linux.org ?
[03:20] <aznpridechinese> it's not doing anything right now
[03:20] <BluesKaj> oh aznpridechinese , i thought someone told you what to look for
[03:20] <BluesKaj> cuz i don't know either :)
[03:21] <intelikey> root users ???
[03:22] <intelikey> aznpridechinese that sounds a lot like a crack  yeah.     unless you have root doing something you should disconnect and fix that
[03:25] <jim87410> I have services running under root and I know my system is ok.
[03:25] <BluesKaj> intelikey, what would a cracker look like ?
[03:25] <K-Ryan> BluesKaj: Usually white and comes in plastic
[03:25] <K-Ryan> =)
[03:26] <intelikey> BluesKaj like an uninvited guest
[03:26] <BluesKaj> or some 14 yrold scriptkiddie with pimples and coke bottle glasses :)
[03:27] <BluesKaj> in top , what does a std safe output look like ?
[03:29] <intelikey> BluesKaj normal output would have no root users in it.
[03:30] <BluesKaj> i have several  'root' in the list but no 'root users'
[03:30] <intelikey> correct "but no 'root users'"
[03:32] <BluesKaj> for ex:   31 root      20  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kacpid
[03:32] <intelikey> in fact on any system in this channel except mine seeing root users would be a red flag       "most likely"
[03:34] <intelikey> BluesKaj also  who  or  w   if root shows up then you need to see what is going on
[03:35] <intelikey> of course yours wont look like mine.
[03:35] <intelikey> tty24 [root@~]  who
[03:35] <intelikey> tty24 [root@~] 
[03:37] <NickPresta> Wow, the Cube Atlantis plugin for Compiz Fusion is neat...
[03:38] <zerothis> is there a terminal that shows colored docments in color AND does unicode?
[03:38] <BluesKaj> show me yours and I'll show you mine :)  don't wann a use that request when it comes to discussing a 'root" :)
[03:38] <NickPresta> speaking of Compiz Fusion, how stable is it in comparison to Beryl 0.2.1?
[03:38] <zerothis> or shell, rather
[03:39] <BluesKaj> it's alll window dressing anyway , NickPresta  :0
[03:40] <intelikey> unicode any shell/terminal/console   but colour is another ball of wax
[03:40] <NickPresta> BluesKaj, I know. I just don't want to switch to CF when Beryl 0.2.1 is running perfectly fine for me. I don't see any _huge_ new plugins.
[03:40] <intelikey> and yes they all do colour  but not like you might  think
[03:41] <intelikey>  or maybe you would  think ...
[03:41] <intelikey> idk
[03:41] <NickPresta> heh
[03:41] <zerothis> I can get konsole to show unicode, I can get konsole to show color, does seem to do both at once.
[03:42] <zerothis> does not, rather
[03:43] <TeraDyne> I really should start remembering to close Konversation before using irssi...
[03:45] <bertina> yes
[03:47] <dr_willis> show what color?
[03:49] <intelikey> hmmm odd unicode seems to be broken on dapper
[03:49] <zerothis> show color in documents, HTML for instance. not link/visitedlin/text color per se, but the the document text is designed in
[03:49] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38029
[03:49] <intelikey> zerothis ?
[03:49] <intelikey> what are you viewing the text with ?
[03:49] <zerothis> elinks
[03:50] <intelikey> it does colour by default
[03:50] <intelikey> "which i always turn off"
[03:50] <intelikey> get in the menu and confriggr it
[03:52] <TeraDyne> *sigh* What's the package for the Kontact newsgroup reader?
[03:52] <dr_willis> hmm.. only Konsole color i can think of is the LS color  of the filenames.
[03:52] <intelikey> how ever i should note that console != konsole  so  terminal emulatores
[03:52] <intelikey> meh.
[03:53] <dr_willis> so what one are we talking about..  Bah.. never mind. :) i dont care any more. heh
[03:53] <intelikey> ls --color=auto    ?
[03:53] <jhutchins> grep does color these days, as does vi.
[03:53] <BluesKaj> dr_willis, have another beer :)
[03:53] <dr_willis> grep does?
[03:53] <intelikey> mc also
[03:53] <zerothis> konsole linux console +elinks shows color for me, but unicode is all questionmarks. konsole shell shows all the unicode but in b&w
[03:53] <intelikey> dr_willis yes
[03:54] <intelikey> has for several releases
[03:54] <dr_willis> i cant recall that optionb.. but my grep books are a bit old. :)
[03:54] <dr_willis> i do recall using some 'colorizer' tool ages ago
[03:54] <dr_willis> colorizing my logs :)
[03:54] <intelikey> grep          --colour[=WHEN] , --color[=WHEN] 
[03:55] <TeraDyne> nevermind my question. It was knode that I was looking for.
[03:56] <dr_willis> grep share smb.conf   --color
[03:56] <dr_willis> thats handy :)
[03:56] <zerothis> konsole: Unknown option '--color=auto'.
[03:56] <dr_willis> ls --color=auto
[03:57] <dr_willis> ls option, not a konsole option.
[03:57] <dr_willis> :)
[03:57] <intelikey> man grep | grep --colour=auto colour -A 2
[03:57] <intelikey> :)
[03:57] <semistud2354> i have a problem....everytime i make a link to ----------sudo ln -s /var/run/xdmctl/xdmctl-:0 /var/run/xdmctl/xdmctl-:1---- it makes the link but when i reboot its gone....any ideas how to make it permanent
[03:58] <dr_willis> Now do 'color' OR 'colour' :)
[03:58] <semistud2354> ????
[03:59] <dr_willis> semistud2354,  dare we ask  Why you are making that link?
[03:59] <intelikey> semistud2354 sure tell the initramfs image not to mount ram on that dir
[03:59] <intelikey> semistud2354 cat /proc/mounts
[03:59] <intelikey> :)
[03:59] <semistud2354> if i make that link i get the reboot, shutdown buttions back when i run beryl
[03:59] <semistud2354> ok...so what do i type in konsole
[04:00] <intelikey> echo '\nln -s /var/run/xdmctl/xdmctl-:0 /var/run/xdmctl/xdmctl-:1' >> /etc/rc.local      :)
[04:01] <intelikey> but you'll have to be root  ;/
[04:01] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: probably have to do that with sudo and tee on a buntu box
[04:01] <semistud2354> so sudo echo '\nln -s /var/run/xdmctl/xdmctl-:0 /var/run/xdmctl/xdmctl-:1' >> /etc/rc.local
[04:01] <keisangi> hi there, i was wondering if it's possible to configure this in kde:  double click on the desktop to open a new dolphin window.. what do you think , is it possible ?
[04:01] <semistud2354> thats the command right
[04:01] <semistud2354> ??
[04:01] <intelikey> hitmanWilly or do it as root.
[04:02] <panxito__> hi
[04:02] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: somehow i doubt semistud2354 has a root acct set up...
[04:02] <intelikey> semistud2354 that would add the line to the /etc/rc.local file so it would run at boot time.
[04:02] <intelikey> hitmanWilly sudo -i  is setup .....
[04:02] <dr_willis> sound like a lot of annoyance for Beryl :)
[04:03] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: ok, that might work then
[04:03] <semistud2354> o..i can do that manually from kate
[04:03] <intelikey> :)
[04:03] <semistud2354> lol
[04:03] <semistud2354> right
[04:03] <semistud2354> ??
[04:03] <intelikey> yeah
[04:03] <semistud2354> it would be alot easier to follow
[04:03] <dr_willis> kdesu kate /etc/rc.local
[04:03] <semistud2354> then just add the commands
[04:03] <dr_willis>  put it at the end.. but befor the exit 0 command. (if i rember right)
[04:04] <intelikey> semistud2354 yes.   and you don't need the sudo of your link command   cause init will be running that script
[04:04] <intelikey> dr_willis there an exit command in there by default ?
[04:05] <intelikey> i didn't think rc.local had one  ???
[04:05] <semistud2354> ok...im gonna reboot n check it out...
[04:05] <semistud2354> brb
[04:05] <semistud2354> HOPE IT WORKS
[04:05] <intelikey> yes you do
[04:07] <dr_willis> intelikey,  i forget.. i seemto recall there being one at the end.
[04:09] <semistud2354> it didnt work
[04:10] <intelikey> what didn't work about it ?   does the link exist now ?
[04:11] <semistud2354> i put the--ln -s /var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:0 /var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:1-- before the exit 0 command in etc/rc.local
[04:11] <semistud2354> and it didnt work
[04:11] <semistud2354> should i put it after the exit 0 thing....or it doesnt matter
[04:12] <semistud2354> or should i put sudo ln -s /var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:0 /var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:1
[04:12] <intelikey> ls /var/run/xdmctl*
[04:13] <semistud2354> im going to try to put it after the exit 0 ill be right back
[04:14] <intelikey> semistud2354 after the exit will do what ?     lets see the script runs commands that it contains, so when it "exits" then it will ahhh .....   ahhh......      that's right.  it won't do anything, it exited
[04:14] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: too late
[04:15] <intelikey> and so did he.....
[04:15] <hitmanWilly> im gonna laugh when he comes back saying it didn't do anything
[04:15] <TeraDyne> Anyone want to hear something funny, but sad and stupid at the same time?
[04:15] <intelikey> i wish he would have ran the ls on that dir
[04:15] <K-Ryan> TeraDyne: Shoot
[04:16] <hitmanWilly> it should have if its in the rc.local file and typed in right
[04:16] <intelikey> hitmanWilly yes.
[04:17] <TeraDyne> I was trying to set up a newsgroup account, and the site says it needs a UN and Pass. Well, I spent the last 5 minutes trying to get it to work. Well, it turns out you DON'T need the UN and PASS.
[04:17] <hitmanWilly> unless the source location for the link is created post boot....
[04:17] <K-Ryan> =)
[04:17] <TeraDyne> You can ONLY connect to the news server WITHOUT the authentication.
[04:18] <TeraDyne> 5 mins... wasted...
[04:18] <intelikey> hitmanWilly not sure how upstart handles that...  could be a timming issue i sussspose
[04:18] <ax1s> how do i make my own mouse theme
[04:18] <ax1s> ;] 
[04:18] <dr_willis> take the mouse.. glue on some diamonds and glitter and 2 eyes....
[04:18] <intelikey> hitmanWilly make one   heh
[04:18] <K-Ryan> "The two eyes"
[04:18] <ax1s> ha ha
[04:19] <K-Ryan> ahahaha
[04:19] <ax1s> what do i use
[04:19] <ax1s> to make one
[04:19] <hitmanWilly> will it still work with upstart?
[04:19] <semistud2354> ok...so i rebooted...and it didnt work
[04:19] <hitmanWilly> lol
[04:19] <dr_willis> you are refering to a mouse pointer/cursor theme?
[04:19] <hitmanWilly> told ya...
[04:19] <dr_willis> Id say check the kde-look.org site and see what they got.. and  haxor one of the examples
[04:19] <ax1s> yyes i am
[04:19] <ax1s> well
[04:19] <ax1s> that's what i want to do
[04:19] <intelikey> hitmanWilly you could make upstart a symlink to init  ?    would be worth testing i guess
[04:19] <ax1s> oh
[04:20] <ax1s> fuck
[04:20] <TeraDyne> !ohmy
[04:20] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:20] <ax1s> well see i want to fix  a broken once
[04:20] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354: if its placed AFTER the exit cmd, why WOULD it work?
[04:20] <ax1s> one*
[04:20] <dr_willis> kde-look.org has a lot of examples i recall.. none of which i use. :)
[04:20] <intelikey> should i repost for halfcocked's sake ?
[04:20] <ax1s> so i guess i will see how a working one works
[04:20] <ax1s> uhg i just want a niec gold theme
[04:20] <ax1s> not the classic one
[04:20] <semistud2354> i tryed putting it before it didnt work
[04:20] <ax1s> this classic gold is pale
[04:20] <ax1s> :(
[04:21] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354: did you see if the link was created?
[04:21] <Hambletonian> alguien q hable espaol?
[04:21] <semistud2354> it wasnt
[04:21] <intelikey> you didn't do the 'ls' command semistud2354 to see if it worked or not.
[04:21] <BluesKaj> !es
[04:21] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:21] <semistud2354> i did the ls command in konsole
[04:21] <semistud2354> it worked
[04:21] <ax1s> mother mother fuck mother mother fuck..  shit fuck shit.. fuck shit fuck
[04:21] <Hambletonian> ok, Gracias
[04:21] <semistud2354> but when i put it in that local file thing....it didnt work
[04:21] <TeraDyne> !ohmy
[04:21] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:21] <K-Ryan> He left
[04:21] <K-Ryan> And did it on purpose
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[04:22] <dr_willis> mouse cursor themes are such a HOT topic ya know!
[04:22] <TeraDyne> K-Ryan: Didn't even look. Trying to pay attention to something on my windows box across the room.
[04:22] <intelikey> /exit the insanity is destroying the last fragment of inteligence i had left
[04:22] <K-Ryan> TeraDyne: Just letting ya' know
[04:23] <__Chris1> What does it mean if I can get here, but my Firefox says I can't connect to any websites?
[04:23] <TeraDyne> K-Ryan: And I thank you for doing so.
[04:23] <semistud2354> ok...so i put...sudo my link..before the exit 0 command
[04:23] <semistud2354> is that right
[04:23] <semistud2354> ??
[04:23] <BluesKaj> ax1s is angry , but gone ...will have to remind him about his language when he rejoins
[04:23] <holycow> hello
[04:23] <Hambletonian> OK, bye...
[04:23] <intelikey> semistud2354 no
[04:23] <K-Ryan> You're welcome TeraDyne
[04:23] <semistud2354> this is an anoyance that i have been living with since i installed beryl
[04:23] <semistud2354> ok...
[04:23] <dr_willis> __Chris1,  Ive seen a few others have similer issues.. Not sure whats going on. never did see them get an answer/fix. but there may be some forum hits.
[04:23] <intelikey> semistud2354 it doesn't need sudo   init is greater than root...
[04:23] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354: don't use sudo, rc.local is run as init (root access)
[04:24] <semistud2354> so just ----ln -s /var/run/xdmctl/xdmctl-:0 /var/run/xdmctl/xdmctl-:1---
[04:24] <__Chris1> dr_willis - Thanks.  It's always worked, and now tonight, no go...
[04:24] <intelikey> yes
[04:24] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354: actually, using sudo might make it NOT work
[04:24] <TeraDyne> XD I crashed my WinXP box. All I was doing was transfering a copy of the Ubuntu Server ISO...
[04:24] <semistud2354> ok...i didnt use it...i was just wonering why it didnt work....
[04:24] <semistud2354> do i have to make the link in the konsole...then put it in rc.local...
[04:25] <semistud2354> so it protects it
[04:25] <semistud2354> or...is this method...making the link automatically upon startup
[04:25] <dr_willis> semistud2354,  the command makes that link
[04:25] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354: making it automatically on startup
[04:25] <dr_willis> rc.local would then be makng that link with the command.
[04:26] <intelikey> semistud2354 i know what the error is.    the destination file is not present when the ln command runs.
[04:26] <semistud2354> it works when i type it in konsole
[04:26] <semistud2354> should i space them out
[04:26] <semistud2354> like command....enter...command
[04:27] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354: its one cmd
[04:27] <intelikey> semistud2354 no it's not making it on startup like it should because the target is missing until several seconds later.     put    sleep 60    on the line above the command
[04:27] <dr_willis>  /me looks for his Bash tutorial links.
[04:27] <pagan0ne> this is going to sound like a really noob question, but is there a way to upload sompthing over ssh?
[04:27] <dr_willis> pagan0ne,  'scp' can do that.
[04:27] <dr_willis> pagan0ne,  windows can use 'winscp'
[04:27] <semistud2354> just sleep 60
[04:27] <semistud2354> ??
[04:27] <semistud2354> thats it
[04:27] <semistud2354> ??
[04:27] <intelikey> semistud2354 yes
[04:27] <dr_willis> semistud2354,  that command will make the script pause for 1 min.. then do the next command..
[04:28] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354: before the link cmd
[04:28] <pagan0ne> anywhere i could go to get a quick rundown of how to use scp?
[04:28] <holycow> or you can use konqueror and login with ssh://yourusername@ip.add.dd.ress:portnumber
[04:28] <ira> anyovmware?
[04:28] <intelikey> sleep 60
[04:28] <holycow> and transfer that way
[04:28] <intelikey> ln -s /var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:0 /var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:1
[04:28] <dr_willis> pagan0ne,  literally 100's if not 10000's of tuorial sites out there on ssh and scp
[04:28] <semistud2354> well i want it created instantly
[04:28] <ira> sorry any one using vmware
[04:28] <pagan0ne> ok thanks
[04:28] <intelikey> semistud2354 no can do.
[04:28] <dr_willis> pagan0ne,  scp is supposed to work like 'cp' as much as possiuble
[04:28] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: i can't remember, is that 6 or 60 secs?
[04:28] <dr_willis> I never can rember the right way to use it either. :)
[04:28] <TeraDyne> !anyone | ira
[04:28] <ubotu> ira: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:28] <semistud2354> well can i put it like 30 sec
[04:28] <semistud2354> lol
[04:29] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: or .6?
[04:29] <ira> cant get sound on vmware any clues
[04:29] <semistud2354> so which one do you think i should try first??
[04:29] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: nm, maned it
[04:29] <intelikey> hitmanWilly sleep counts seconds
[04:29] <semistud2354> so could i put like
[04:30] <semistud2354> sleep 3
[04:30] <semistud2354> lol
[04:30] <intelikey> semistud2354 sure you can
[04:30] <ira> Virtualization is great cept when it doesnt work :-)
[04:30] <intelikey> and then add 1   until it actually works if you like
[04:30] <semistud2354> but it has to have sleep in order for it to make a link??
[04:30] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354: sleep==pause
[04:30] <semistud2354> like sleep...link...then exit 0
[04:30] <intelikey> but i suspect about 25 reboots using that methood
[04:30] <K-Ryan> Is anyone good at ACM?
[04:30] <K-Ryan> !info acm
[04:30] <ubotu> acm: A multi-player aerial combat simulation. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.0-23.1 (feisty), package size 713 kB, installed size 1368 kB
[04:31] <intelikey> semistud2354   until ln -s /var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:0 /var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:1 ;do sleep 1 ;done
[04:31] <intelikey> whiner.
[04:31] <ira> !info vmware
[04:31] <ubotu> Package vmware does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[04:31] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: nice
[04:31] <K-Ryan> !vmware
[04:31] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[04:31] <semistud2354> ok im confused
[04:31] <hitmanWilly> never thought of going that route
[04:31] <pagan0ne> dr_willis: so scp works like     scp file/to/copy user@#.#.#.#:port place/to/cp/to
[04:31] <BluesKaj> ira, before powering up your guest OS , click the guest OS , then choose 'edit virtual machine settings ' , then click on add and you'll have the option to choose sound
[04:31] <semistud2354> i thought i was suppos to put it before the command
[04:31] <semistud2354> not after
[04:32] <hitmanWilly> of course if the error is something else it'll never boot :)
[04:32] <intelikey> semistud2354 whiner.   just use that command in the rc.local     nothing else.
[04:32] <ira> thank I iwll try that now
[04:32] <intelikey> semistud2354   until ln -s /var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:0 /var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:1 ;do sleep 1 ;done
[04:32] <BluesKaj> ira, err add sound
[04:32] <intelikey> that will keep trying until it succedes
[04:32] <intelikey> e
[04:33] <intelikey> hitmanWilly looping the ln command will not prevent boot in rc.local
[04:34] <intelikey> hitmanWilly it will only prevent rc.local from exiting
[04:34] <intelikey> it still wouldn't.   it's the last thing called
[04:34] <semistud2354> that would keep trying to make a link till it succedes
[04:34] <semistud2354> ??
[04:35] <hitmanWilly> oh, duh, last line....
[04:35] <intelikey> semistud2354   until ln -s /var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:0 /var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:1 ;do sleep 1 ;done    <<<<< that would semistud2354
[04:36] <intelikey> and one should single quote those file names
[04:36] <intelikey> semistud2354   until ln -s '/var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:0' '/var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:1' ;do sleep 1 ;done
[04:37] <semistud2354> whats the single quote do
[04:37] <intelikey> should work without the quotes but special chars like - and  :  can react irraticlly with different commands .
[04:38] <intelikey> semistud2354 protect the file name from interpretation
[04:38] <semistud2354> if i didnt have that...would it still work
[04:38] <semistud2354> or would that totally mess up the operation
[04:39] <intelikey> see next to last post ^
[04:39] <semistud2354> o...lol...my ba
[04:39] <semistud2354> bad
[04:39] <semistud2354> ok..here goes im going to reastart
[04:39] <ircusr> hi leilelfag!
[04:40] <intelikey> ircusr do you truely believe you have just cause to attack that nickname ?
[04:41] <ircusr> he attacked first
[04:41] <intelikey> is that just cause ?
[04:41] <ircusr> yes
[04:42] <intelikey> wouldn't it be easier, smarter, and much more family friendly to just ignore the user ?
[04:42] <ircusr> nope
[04:42] <ircusr> :D
[04:42] <ritztech> anyone get emerald to work right with beryl Eeeeek
[04:42] <netdaemon> is there a way to run ubiquity without it insisting on fetching the package lists?
[04:42] <intelikey> then maybe my best action here would be to bring that to the attention of the ops rather than argue with you ircusr
[04:43] <ircusr> no need
[04:43] <ircusr> im on my way out
[04:43] <ircusr> bye
[04:43] <semistud2354> SUCCESS!!!!
[04:44] <semistud2354> thank you guys....
[04:44] <semistud2354> i love you guys
[04:44] <intelikey> semistud2354 what did you expect ?
[04:44] <intelikey> heh.
[04:44] <NickPresta> Compiz Fusion still isn't good enough for me. Although it's settings manager is sweet...
[04:44] <intelikey> that's my one smart elic remark for the day...  :)
[04:44] <BluesKaj> oh feel the luuuv ..  ;)
[04:45] <intelikey> netdaemon not that i know of.  but that doesn't preclude the possability
[04:45] <hero> where would a thumb drive be mounted? kde asked me if i wanted to open it and i said yes, but no window ever came up
[04:46] <intelikey> hero /media/ something
[04:46] <NickPresta> somewhere in /media
[04:46] <hero> hm
[04:46] <semistud2354> i have a question....i have a probem with my friends computer......his windows just suddenly freezez....for the logest time ive been trying to switch him to linux...
[04:46] <hero> only cdrom0 is there
[04:46] <zibrah3ed> .. /media/disk most likely
[04:46] <semistud2354> does linux have a registry...that messes up
[04:46] <zibrah3ed> no
[04:46] <semistud2354> questions like this...i have trouble ansering
[04:46] <netdaemon> i'm looking at the options right now, don't see anything...
[04:46] <intelikey> hero or /media/sd?
[04:46] <hero> only cdrom0 is in /media :(
[04:47] <intelikey> semistud2354 registry ?   what's that ?
[04:47] <BluesKaj> hero,system menu/staorge media
[04:47] <BluesKaj> er storage media
[04:47] <semistud2354> im not to sure myself...he has like...this registry cleaner
[04:47] <semistud2354> computer optimizer
[04:47] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354: nix config options are usually kept in individual text files
[04:47] <Macrosoft> hero
[04:47] <hero> BluesKaj: again, only cdrom0 is there
[04:47] <semistud2354> all this bull software
[04:48] <BluesKaj> gawd, that's just spyware semistud2354
[04:48] <hero> Macrosoft
[04:48] <Macrosoft> hero: you could check /mnt/
[04:48] <semistud2354> do linux computers suddenly with out notice freez
[04:48] <hero> nothing
[04:48] <TeraDyne> hero, is there an icon of a usb stick on your desktop?
[04:48] <semistud2354> thats what his windows comp is doing
[04:48] <TeraDyne> hero: If not, it's not mounted.
[04:48] <Macrosoft> try computer://
[04:48] <hero> semistud2354: no
[04:48] <semistud2354> like starts...runs 2 or 3 programs...small ones..it freezes suddenly
[04:48] <intelikey> semistud2354 if they freeze it's usually without notice.  but a stable system running stable apps doesn't normally do that.
[04:48] <hero> TeraDyne: ok.
[04:49] <varaonaid> hi, i'm trying to gain write access to a shared partition (ext3 format) and i can't seem to figure it out
[04:49] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354: VERY^100 rarely
[04:49] <TeraDyne> hero: remove it and reinsert it.
[04:49] <Macrosoft> varaonaid: use chmod
[04:49] <intelikey> this box has never froze with dapper drake.
[04:49] <semistud2354> what can i tell him...
[04:49] <hero> TeraDyne: yeah, i did that but nothing happened
[04:50] <semistud2354> to persuade him
[04:50] <semistud2354> to switch to linux
[04:50] <hitmanWilly> ive used nix for over 15 years now and have had that happen twice
[04:50] <TeraDyne> hero: that's odd. that's very odd.
[04:50] <Macrosoft> hero: is there an activity light on your flash drive?
[04:50] <hero> TeraDyne: yes.
[04:50] <dr_willis> varaonaid,  you want a single user to have full access to a ext3 partition?
[04:50] <intelikey> !virus | semistud2354
[04:50] <ubotu> semistud2354: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[04:50] <hero> Macrosoft: yes. it lights up when i insert it
[04:50] <dr_willis> varaonaid,  like for extra 'data' storage?
[04:50] <varaonaid> dr_willis: yes, exactly
[04:50] <Macrosoft> hero: is it flashing?
[04:50] <hitmanWilly> both times after monkeying around with important kernel level configs
[04:50] <intelikey> semistud2354 maybe point him to the link  ^
[04:51] <semistud2354> why is it harder to hack
[04:51] <hero> Macrosoft: no, steady light. incidentally, amarok had a popup come up
[04:51] <dr_willis> varaonaid,  what i DO is this.. I make a directory On that partition, i chown it to be owned by the user.  he can write fully to THAT dir.. ( and fill up the drive if he wants to)
[04:51] <semistud2354> why are viruses rair
[04:51] <semistud2354> rare
[04:51] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354: see the above link
[04:51] <hero> semistud2354: read the article
[04:51] <dr_willis> varaonaid,  and then i normally make a link from that mountedfilesystem/Username TO his /home/username/Storage dir.
[04:51] <semistud2354> kkk
[04:51] <dr_willis> varaonaid,  he dosent need full access to the 'root' of the filesystem.
[04:51] <Macrosoft> hero: it may not be mounted, so it may be safe to unplug it and then plug it in again
[04:52] <hero> Macrosoft: yes, i've done that numerous times
[04:52] <intelikey> !security | semistud2354
[04:52] <ubotu> semistud2354: If you feel the need to adopt security measures for your system, check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security - See also !root, !firewall and !server
[04:52] <netdaemon> how would i go about updating the local ubiquity?
[04:52] <varaonaid> dr_willis: so the user has full access to that dir but the technically the whole drive?
[04:52] <dr_willis> varaonaid,  yep..
[04:52] <semistud2354> not me...my buddy
[04:52] <dr_willis> varaonaid,  i got 5+ drives set up that way. :)
[04:52] <varaonaid> dr_willis: cool, very ingenious!!  thanks a bunch :)
[04:52] <Macrosoft> hero: is it the only flash drive plugged to you comp right now?
[04:52] <hero> yes
[04:53] <intelikey> netdaemon sudo apt-get install ubiquity   ?
[04:53] <hero> and the package had a penguin on it
[04:53] <dr_willis> varaonaid,   you could move his whole home dir to that drive if ya wanted to.
[04:53] <netdaemon> eh...
[04:53] <netdaemon> i'll try i suppose
[04:53] <dr_willis> varaonaid,  or mount the drive as /home :)
[04:53] <Macrosoft> hero: then try this as root: mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[04:53] <semistud2354> so somehow...in order for a virus to be a threat
[04:53] <varaonaid> dr_willis: awesome!  i love having those different options
[04:53] <zibrah3ed> won't work you need to specify the filesystem
[04:53] <semistud2354> it had to know your password???
[04:53] <intelikey> semistud2354 go read those links ubotu gave you.  i'm sure several thing will be apearant that you can use.
[04:53] <semistud2354> am i reading it correctly
[04:53] <varaonaid> dr_willis: again, many thanks!!! :D
[04:53] <hero> mount point does not exist. so i have to create that directory? sda1?
[04:53] <dr_willis> varaonaid,  get hardkore and have /home on a different machine. :) is a neat trick.
[04:54] <Macrosoft> hero: yes, the folder has to exist first, i forgot about that
[04:54] <zibrah3ed> hero: yes sudo mkdir /media/sda1
[04:54] <varaonaid> dr_willis: woooww!  very cool capability!
[04:55] <hero> ok, but sda1 is my hard drive, which is already mounted heh
[04:56] <Macrosoft> then try sdb1
[04:56] <hero> k
[04:56] <Macrosoft> unless thats your cdrom
[04:56] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354: for a virus to effectively work in nix, it needs root or higher level access, which is rather uncommon for user installed apps, plus to propogate itself, it would need root access on every linux machine it comes in contact with, which makes it very hard for transmission
[04:56] <intelikey> echo 'alias mkdir="/bin/mkdir -p" >> ~.bash_bashrc
[04:56] <intelikey> ooops
[04:56] <hero> alright
[04:56] <intelikey> echo 'alias mkdir="/bin/mkdir -p"' >> ~.bash_bashrc
[04:56] <intelikey> there.
[04:56] <hero> i had a feeling i'd have to mount it manually
[04:56] <hero> !automount
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <hero> hm
[04:56] <BluesKaj> Macrosoft, hero, the drive should show up automatically ...there' gotta be something else wrong
[04:56] <TeraDyne> !mount
[04:56] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:56] <semistud2354> so it would need the user name and password of every linux machine
[04:56] <hero> BluesKaj: such as?
[04:56] <TeraDyne> Not what I expected...
[04:57] <Macrosoft> we know, thats why hes doing it manually
[04:57] <semistud2354> and...on top of that spread fast enough so that no one can make a patch
[04:57] <semistud2354> am i right
[04:57] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354: or for a buffer overflow type attack, the exploited app would need to be running in root, so same deal
[04:57] <semistud2354> ??
[04:57] <hero> the drive has a knoppix distro on it
[04:57] <hero> but i don't see why that would prevent automounting
[04:57] <intelikey> TeraDyne i concure, that infonode doesn't belong there
[04:57] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354: at least to do any real damage to the system
[04:57] <Macrosoft> hero: it shouldnt
[04:57] <hero> yeah
[04:57] <hero> strange
[04:57] <Macrosoft> any luck mounting it yet
[04:57] <hero> yeah, it's mounted, i can see data and all that
[04:57] <Macrosoft> good
[04:57] <hero> just to get it to mount/umount automatically
[04:58] <Macrosoft> you using kde?
[04:58] <hero> !flash drive
[04:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash drive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:58] <hero> yep
[04:58] <hero> kde 3.5.6
[04:58] <BluesKaj> !USB
[04:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:58] <Macrosoft> oh, i only know how to set startup commands for GNOME startup
[04:58] <hero> yes, the bot is worthless at times :D
[04:59] <hero> Macrosoft: uh, in case you didn't notice, this is #kubuntu :P
[04:59] <BluesKaj> !key
[04:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about key - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:59] <BluesKaj> gawd
[04:59] <TeraDyne> !brain
[04:59] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:59] <hero> !thumb
[04:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thumb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:59] <Macrosoft> i know, i use both
[04:59] <hero> ok, just teasin
[04:59] <hero> maybe just not having the mount point made a diff?
[04:59] <hero> i'm going to umount and try again
[04:59] <Macrosoft> although im starting to prefer GNOME
[05:00] <NickPresta> gnome is evil ;)
[05:00] <Stratys> can anyone help me adjust my main volume in kubuntu?
[05:00] <dr_willis> I perfer kde. :)
[05:00] <semistud2354> well...thanx guys....you guys kick ass
[05:00] <hitmanWilly> Stratys: try kmix
[05:00] <TeraDyne> NickPresta: No, it just thinks it's users are stupid.
[05:00] <Stratys> lol
[05:00] <hero> people shouldn't read that stupid torvalds article
[05:00] <Stratys> i feel like an idiot
[05:00] <hero> "whatever linus does i'm going to do!"
[05:00] <Stratys> hitmanwilly thank you
[05:00] <Macrosoft> yes, it strangely mac OS-ish
[05:00] <intelikey> linus who ?
[05:01] <hitmanWilly> Stratys: np :)
[05:01] <hero> intelikey: heh.
[05:01] <hero> alright, so i have to mount the usb drive manually
[05:01] <Macrosoft> yep
[05:01] <intelikey> stalman who ?
[05:01] <hero> that sucks
[05:01] <dr_willis> MatchBox
[05:02] <Macrosoft> i think there's a init.d folder you can add a script to, to mount it for you
[05:02] <TeraDyne> Fluxbox
[05:02] <hitmanWilly> and, yes, intelikey, i know your strategy as well :)
[05:02] <hero> Macrosoft: well, that's beyond my skill.
[05:02] <dr_willis> AmigaWM!
[05:02] <dr_willis> :)
[05:02] <hitmanWilly> altho i do use a lot of QT apps
[05:02] <Macrosoft> be back
[05:03] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: i was talking about your almost nonexistant use of X in general
[05:03] <intelikey> oh that.  that's not strategy, that's just common sense...  :)
[05:03] <hitmanWilly> strategy may have been the wrong word, tho
[05:03] <intelikey> hitmanWilly :)
[05:04] <intelikey> hero fstab ?
[05:04] <TeraDyne> irssi + ogg123 + vim = OS
[05:04] <hero> what about it?
[05:04] <hero> just put that mount info in?
[05:04] <intelikey> ok.
[05:04] <hero> pray it's automatic?
[05:05] <hitmanWilly> i'm kind of gui agnostic, if an app i like is gui or not, i'll use what works for me
[05:05] <intelikey> hero it is automatic
[05:05] <intelikey> that's what fstab is for.
[05:05] <hero> intelikey: alright
[05:05] <intelikey> fstab=file system table
[05:05] <TeraDyne> hitmanWilly: I use whatever doesn't crash my laptop.
[05:05] <hitmanWilly> lol
[05:05] <hero> yeah but isn't fstab read on boot-up?
[05:05] <intelikey> yes and anytime a mount command is issued
[05:05] <dr_willis> one of the init scripts does a mount -a I belive.. :)
[05:06] <hero> so i still have to mount it manually, even after putting the info into fstab?
[05:06] <fitoria_> hey i have a problem with a hp deskjet 656c printer
[05:06] <fitoria_> the configuration tool says it is an apollo
[05:06] <fitoria_> i tried to change the ulr
[05:06] <fitoria_> but it didnt work
[05:06] <intelikey> hero example.    /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom auto noauto,user,users 0 0   <<<  then you only need issue   mount /media/cdrom      and it mounts.
[05:06] <__Chris> All - I can get on here... But my Firefox doesn't work.  Can't find any URLs.  It did work great.  Tonight, when I powered up the machine, and started it, and launched Firefox, it said it was validating my plugins.  But it seemed to get stuck after several minutes, so I clicked cancel.  Is that why it quit working?
[05:07] <hitmanWilly> hero: you can set it up that way with noauto, but if kde detects any device listed in fstab, it'll try to mount it, or at least ask what to do
[05:07] <dr_willis> __Chris,  try making a new user. see if it affects them also..
[05:07] <dr_willis> __Chris,  could try a different browser also. Like Opera, or konqueror
[05:07] <hero> hitmanWilly: ok, good
[05:07] <hero> so don't use noauto
[05:07] <fitoria_> hp:/usb/hpDeskjet_656C_hpijs?serial=THSBCLTW88
[05:07] <__Chris> Konqueror works, but the java doesn't work on the page I want to go to, and firefox did.
[05:08] <fitoria_> hp:/usb/APOLLO_P2500_2600?serial=THSBCLTW88
[05:08] <hitmanWilly> hero: actually, yes, for a removeable drive
[05:08] <__Chris> Does Opera support Java?
[05:08] <fitoria_> yeah
[05:08] <hero> hitmanWilly: so what intelikey said should work fine then and kde will recognize the drive upon connection?
[05:08] <hitmanWilly> hero: it should
[05:08] <intelikey> hero also one might be well advised to use the blkid for the device
[05:08] <hero> blkid?
[05:09] <Ahmuck> hi, after installing apache2 i am unable to access port 110 localhost.  how do i re-enable it?
[05:09] <intelikey> blkid=block ident...      the id the fs has on it's first block.
[05:09] <hero> instead of /dev/hdb1?
[05:09] <hero> sorry, i got confused
[05:09] <intelikey> hero yes and there is a command that will display that,   named  ahhh ahhh   "blkid"
[05:10] <hero> ok, so i would put that id where /dev/hdb1 would be, correct?
[05:10] <intelikey> yes
[05:10] <hero> i got it right
[05:10] <hero> it's hdb1
[05:10] <hero> what's the best fs to have on the drive itself? right now it's msdos
[05:11] <hero> i want to be able to use it on windows machines too
[05:11] <hero> er, it's vfat
[05:11] <intelikey> probably vfat if you want it portable.
[05:11] <hero> k
[05:11] <intelikey> i.e. if you expect M$ to access it.
[05:11] <hero> so here's the fstab line:  /dev/sdb1	/media/sdb1	auto noauto,user,users 0 0
[05:11] <hero> er, it omitted the tabs
[05:11] <hero> but you get it, right?
[05:12] <intelikey> right
[05:12] <hero> k
[05:12] <intelikey> but the block id
[05:12] <hero> the UUID?
[05:12] <TuxOtaku> hey, I'm currently using GNOME but trying to install KDE via the kubuntu-desktop metapackage.....apt keeps giving me dependency errors when I go to install it though
[05:12] <hero> ./dev/sdb1: SEC_TYPE="msdos" UUID="6488-592C" TYPE="vfat"
[05:12] <intelikey>  /dev/hdc2: UUID="9c8d7a43-dee1-41db-8ef5-96f672cbb020" TYPE="ext2"  <<<< something like that   so >>>  UUID="9c8d7a43-dee1-41db-8ef5-96f672cbb020" /media/sdb1     auto noauto,user,users 0 0  <<<<<
[05:12] <TuxOtaku> i'm running feisty, btw
[05:12] <intelikey> example ^
[05:12] <hero> ok, so that goes on the line
[05:13] <intelikey> yes
[05:13] <intelikey> hero note it replaced the /dev/sdb2
[05:13] <hero> you have a colon after /dev/hdc2?
[05:13] <TeraDyne> TuxOtaku: try "sudo apt-get install -f"
[05:13] <intelikey> or 1 or what ever
[05:13] <hero> ah
[05:13] <hero> UUID is the first part of the line
[05:13] <intelikey> hero only what's between >>  <<
[05:13] <TuxOtaku> TeraDyne, been there, done that....doesn't do jack.
[05:14] <xtr3me> TuxOtaku:  what error?
[05:14] <intelikey> and use your own blkid  not mine  :)
[05:14] <ritztech> is there a way to remote into the gui from a windows box
[05:14] <TeraDyne> TuxOtaku: Hmm...
[05:14] <TuxOtaku> xtr3me, this: (pardon the paste)
[05:14] <TuxOtaku> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:14] <TuxOtaku>   kubuntu-desktop: Depends: kdm but it is not going to be installed
[05:14] <TuxOtaku>                    Depends: kmplayer-konq-plugins but it is not going to be installed
[05:14] <TuxOtaku>                    Depends: konq-plugins but it is not going to be installed
[05:14] <TuxOtaku>                    Depends: kubuntu-default-settings but it is not going to be installed
[05:14] <Biovore> ritztech: vnc or rdp (if you have it setup)
[05:14] <TuxOtaku>                    Recommends: konqueror but it is not going to be installed
[05:14] <TuxOtaku>                    Recommends: kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts but it is not going to be installed
[05:14] <TuxOtaku> E: Broken packages
[05:14] <intelikey> wow nice flood
[05:14] <TeraDyne> !pastebin
[05:14] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:14] <ritztech> rdp
[05:14] <TuxOtaku> yeah, sorry.
[05:15] <hero> dang.
[05:15] <ritztech> like a simple rdp ... windows - windows ...
[05:16] <TuxOtaku> i try installing those conflicting packages one at a time, and i get an error saying the wrong version will be installed
[05:17] <Biovore> ritztech: yup..  You have to enable desktop sharing in kde first though..
[05:17] <ritztech> in other words remote into my linux from my office which only has win boxes
[05:17] <TuxOtaku> i figured maybe it was my sources.list....so I swapped it out with the default one....still, no dice.
[05:17] <ritztech> could i be able to use the traditional rdp provided with windows (mstsc)
[05:18] <beto> hello
[05:19] <beto> can someone help me with beryl
[05:19] <Biovore> ritztech: I think so.. I havn't messed with it much though..
[05:19] <intelikey> TuxOtaku dpkg -l | grep kde      and don't flood should it output lots just say that.
[05:19] <SonomaAway> beto: #beryl is the best place to help with beryl
[05:19] <beto> it disappears the task bar
[05:19] <intelikey> !beryl | beto
[05:20] <beto> ty
[05:20] <ubotu> beto: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:22] <intelikey> i smell horse biscuts
[05:24] <hero> got it figured out guys, thanks for the help
[05:24] <hero> and thanks for not telling me to man mount :D
[05:24] <intelikey> oh that's   man fstab
[05:24] <intelikey> :)
[05:24] <hero> heh
[05:24] <jhutchins_lt> intelikey: Actually, the buscuits I give my horses smell pretty wonderful.
[05:24] <iqag> ritztech:  http://tinyurl.com/255ou8
[05:24] <hero> although it mounted it at /media/disk instead of /media hdb1
[05:25] <jhutchins_lt> intelikey: The ones the horses make smell great if you dry them and burn them - just like an herbal inscence.
[05:25] <intelikey> jhutchins_lt the ones i smell ar the ones they give back to the field...
[05:25] <hero> so does that mean i can delete /media/hdb1?
[05:25] <iqag> Is there a way to make the embedded terminal in Konqueror exit cleanly when toggling it off with the toolbar button - i.e. so that shell history is preserved?
[05:26] <intelikey> hero you can test by commenting it out   # < this is now a comment.
[05:26] <intelikey> # this is another comment.
[05:26] <intelikey> # and this one.
[05:26] <intelikey> :)
[05:26] <hero> yeah, i know what comments are, but in fstab?
[05:26] <intelikey> yes
[05:26] <hero> so comment out the whole line i just put in?
[05:26] <hero> heh, that seems odd
[05:27] <__Chris> dr_willis - tried the new user, no luck.
[05:27] <intelikey> yeah if you wan't to test it.   i'm guessing that something in kde timmed out...     but i don't mess with kde ya know.
[05:27] <hero> *nod*
[05:28] <hero> since it mounted it automatically, i still need to umount it manually, though
[05:28] <intelikey> hero right click it's icon ?
[05:28] <jhutchins_lt> ; sometimes
[05:28] <hero> yeah. just found it heh
[05:28] <jhutchins_lt> ; these are comments
[05:28] <jhutchins_lt> / so are these in some files.
[05:28] <jhutchins_lt> er,
[05:28] <jhutchins_lt> // these
[05:28] <__Chris> dr_willis - I noticed that my gaim can't connect either...
[05:28] <intelikey> jhutchins_lt and don't forget :
[05:29] <jhutchins_lt> Of course <!--
[05:29] <intelikey> but in fstab  # would be propper
[05:30] <intelikey> 3 am already where does the night go ???
[05:30] <jhutchins_lt> 22:30 here.
[05:30] <jhutchins_lt> WTF are you, iceland?
[05:30] <intelikey> and where did the last 40 years go   ?
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[05:31] <jhutchins_lt> Yeah, well, there's that.
[05:31] <jhutchins_lt> You're GMT then.
[05:31] <jhutchins_lt> It's 3:30 in that case.
[05:31] <jhutchins_lt> BDT.
[05:32] <intelikey> so is W in that Q kinda like  $[W,?]  ?
[05:33] <intelikey> {}
[05:35] <jhutchins_lt> /;
[05:35] <dr_willis> SmurfSlayer,  you want somthing?
[05:36] <dr_willis> most people have dcc chating on auto-ignore.
[05:36] <SmurfSlayer> dr_willis - Sorry
[05:36] <dr_willis> :)
[05:36] <intelikey> most ?
[05:36] <dr_willis> well theres the kick-bots. :)
[05:36] <SmurfSlayer> I tried the new user, and it doesn't work.  Also, I noticed that gaim can't connect either?
[05:37] <dr_willis> SmurfSlayer,  sounds like youve shown its not just browser setting then.
[05:37] <SmurfSlayer> Any idea on what to try next?
[05:37] <dr_willis> try a simple 'ping google.com' from the terminal
[05:37] <SmurfSlayer> I've looked at the network settings, and the IP and gateway all look good.
[05:37] <dr_willis> ping google.com
[05:37] <dr_willis> PING google.com (72.14.207.99) 56(84) bytes of data.
[05:37] <SmurfSlayer> Yes, that works.
[05:37] <dr_willis> then try a ping 72.14.207.99
[05:38] <dr_willis> wait a sec.. it saw google.com ?
[05:38] <ritztech> how would you do a rdp sharing in kub
[05:38] <ritztech> kde
[05:38] <dr_willis> Now thats getting weird....
[05:38] <SmurfSlayer> Dr_willis - yet it works... ttl-224, time is around 75ms
[05:38] <dr_willis> the google.com ping and the ip# ping works?
[05:38] <dr_willis> try putting google.com in your browser address then?
[05:38] <dr_willis> http://google.com
[05:39] <SmurfSlayer> The IP based ping works too.
[05:39] <jhutchins_lt> ritztech: krdp - which is a really stupid idea.
[05:39] <SmurfSlayer> That doesn't work.
[05:39] <ritztech> ? y
[05:39] <ritztech> is it slow
[05:39] <SmurfSlayer> It works in Konq. but not in FireFox.
[05:40] <ritztech> im at work want to be able to remote in
[05:40] <intelikey> well i'm out in 20 minutes, guess i better start shutting down.  later fellas
[05:40] <SmurfSlayer> 64 bytes from 72.14.207.99: icmp_seq=3 ttl=244 time=90.3 ms
[05:40] <jhutchins_lt> ritztech: ssh
[05:41] <SmurfSlayer> What else besides firefox has good Java support?
[05:41] <ritztech> haha
[05:42] <hitmanWilly> SmurfSlayer: konq seems to work pretty well with it
[05:42] <SmurfSlayer> The url I want to use, doesn't work right.  :-(
[05:42] <hitmanWilly> SmurfSlayer: is it enabled?
[05:43] <SmurfSlayer> Yes
[05:43] <dr_willis> SmurfSlayer,  google.com works in Konqueror. but not firefox?
[05:43] <SmurfSlayer> Yes
[05:43] <dr_willis> All righty...
[05:43] <dr_willis> as a test .. close firefox.
[05:43] <SmurfSlayer> Yes to both Hitman willy and dr_willis
[05:43] <hero> ritztech: try vnc. or nxserver.
[05:43] <SmurfSlayer> Closed
[05:44] <dr_willis> MOVE the .mozilla directory  to somthing like .mozilla.old
[05:44] <dr_willis> and restart firefox
[05:44] <SmurfSlayer> dr_willis - where is it?
[05:44] <dr_willis> users home dir. :)
[05:44] <dr_willis> mv .mozilla .mozilla_old
[05:44] <dr_willis> or similer.
[05:45] <SmurfSlayer> All that is in my users home directory is some Ruby stuff I put there...
[05:45] <SmurfSlayer> Unless it is hidden?
[05:46] <SmurfSlayer> Okay.. .found it, changed it to .mozilla_old
[05:46] <dr_willis> .whatever  is a hidden dir. :)
[05:46] <SmurfSlayer> Okay, it is changed.
[05:46] <dr_willis> if this dont fix it.. not sure what to try next.
[05:46] <iZen> whats up peeps
[05:46] <dr_willis> now run firefox from the terminal, see if ya get any error/info messages
[05:47] <SmurfSlayer> I just opened it through the windows menu, and it works!
[05:47] <dr_willis> if all else fails try  in konqueror --->   http://www.opera.com/download/get.pl?id=29341&location=201&nothanks=yes&sub=marine
[05:47] <SmurfSlayer> You are my hero!  :-)
[05:47] <dr_willis> :) and install opers
[05:47] <dr_willis> SmurfSlayer,  now what is NOT making sence..is that the new user you made.. should of worked
[05:47] <iZen> I have a question for someone out there.... How do I install themes in Kubuntu? I have downloaded some from KDE-look.org and they are zipped. What is the process from there?
[05:47] <dr_willis> SmurfSlayer,  unless some how the new user got some messed up firefox settings
[05:48] <SmurfSlayer> That could be.  I got in to google right away.  But the site I want to get to doesn't seem to be working... ack!
[05:49] <dr_willis> what site?
[05:49] <dr_willis> and it better not have 'goat' in the address. :)
[05:49] <iZen> lol
[05:50] <iZen> afrogoathookers.com
[05:50] <iZen> so anyways.... anyone know how to install themes?
[05:50] <dr_willis> themes for what.
[05:51] <iZen> for the interface
[05:51] <dr_willis> KDe's got a rather complex 'theming' setup
[05:51] <iZen> yeah I could tell
[05:51] <dr_willis> a 'theme' is a set of 'parts' the icon theme, the window decoration, the widget set....
[05:51] <dr_willis> a theme file itself is just directions  as to what parts to use
[05:51] <dr_willis> :)
[05:51] <iZen> i got some decorations I believe
[05:51] <dr_willis> normally they got to be compiled/installed.
[05:51] <SmurfSlayer> Dr_willis it is working now!  Thank you VERY VERY Much!
[05:51] <hero> heh, i'm beginning to regret this nick
[05:51] <dr_willis> There are a great many themes/extras in the repos not installed by default
[05:51] <iZen> do i just put them into the same directories as the other buttons and stuff or can it be packaged
[05:52] <dr_willis> iZen,  window decorations are normally COMPILED like any other program.
[05:52] <TuxOtaku> how do i force packages to install with apt?
[05:52] <dr_willis> !apt
[05:52] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:52] <iZen> ok
[05:52] <dr_willis> TuxOtaku,  --force (i think)
[05:52] <iZen> if they are zipped?
[05:52] <iZen> extract the folder and then run what code in terminal?
[05:52] <hero> the *only* thing i don't like about konqueror is that i can't right-click in the address window and copy link. i have to select all, copy
[05:53] <SmurfSlayer> Dr_willis it is working now!  Thank you VERY VERY Much!
[05:53] <dr_willis> you want it to 'auto select all' ?
[05:53] <dr_willis> SmurfSlayer,  :)
[05:53] <hero> why not?
[05:53] <dr_willis> hero,  i HATE how windows DOES that. :)
[05:53] <dr_willis> i rarely if ever want to select it all. i want to select the typo i did
[05:53] <hero> well, it works in firefox
[05:53] <dr_willis> :)
[05:53] <dr_willis> its changeable in firefox. :)
[05:53] <hero> just a small feature request, i guess
[05:54] <dr_willis> vista does it worse  heh.
[05:54] <iZen> i hate alot about windows thats why im trying to get this down. to bad my 3d programs are hard to install
[05:54] <Macrosoft> hero: any luck getting that to automount?
[05:54] <hero> just to right-click and "copy link location" would be sweet, in konqueror
[05:54] <dr_willis> click 3 times fast to select the word.. :)
[05:54] <hero> Macrosoft: we are in business. see above for thanks and praise.
[05:58] <hero> what's the K app for burning cds?
[05:58] <dr_willis> k3b
[05:59] <iZen> Dr., do you have any links to a website for compiling themes?
[05:59] <hero> thanks
[05:59] <iZen> I have not found any good ones through google yet
[05:59] <dr_willis> iZen,  not really. kde-look.org may hae some docs..
[05:59] <dr_willis> there used to be one from the bot
[05:59] <dr_willis> !kdetheme
[05:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdetheme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:59] <dr_willis> !themes
[05:59] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[05:59] <dr_willis> there we go
[05:59] <dr_willis> ./configure && make && make isntall
[05:59] <dr_willis> is the normal 3 step
[06:00] <dr_willis> however - you may need to add some options to the ./configure part.
[06:00] <iZen> i cannot get .configure to do it
[06:00] <dr_willis> and of course you willneed to install build-essential and a lot of stuff
[06:00] <iZen> oh ok
[06:00] <iZen> thats why then
[06:00] <dr_willis> to actually be able to compile things.
[06:00] <dr_willis> thats proberly 100+mb of downloads there.
[06:00] <dr_willis> :)
[06:00] <iZen> ive tried to do the configure command but it doesnt work
[06:01] <iZen> any place that will tell me what files i need to compile?
[06:01] <iZen> i know i can just check them off in Synaptic
[06:01] <dr_willis> !be
[06:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about be - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:01] <dr_willis> !build-essential
[06:01] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:02] <dr_willis> build-essential  is the core one
[06:02] <dr_willis> then a bunch of kde developer files. :)
[06:02] <dr_willis> I just do shotgun installs of anything with dev in the name. till it works
[06:02] <iZen> k ty
[06:02] <hero> so apparently, k3b doesn't rip mp3 to wav.
[06:02] <hero> how useless is that?
[06:02] <hero> :P
[06:03] <iZen> why would u want wav
[06:03] <dr_willis> it can with the right packages installed
[06:03] <dr_willis> but mp3 to wav - wouldent be k3b's task anyway
[06:03] <dr_willis> cd to mp3 - i hear it can do.
[06:03] <hero> if it makes audio cds, it should be able to rip
[06:04] <hero> using 2 programs for that is unnecessary
[06:04] <iZen> some programs do it better then others though.
[06:04] <dr_willis> k3b CAN rip cd's to mp3's
[06:04] <dr_willis> if you have the right packages  installed
[06:04] <fyrmedic> are the breezy repositories still active?
[06:05] <hero> dr_willis: i have libmad0 and libmad0-dev installed
[06:05] <dr_willis> You asked about ripping mp3 to wav.. thats not ripping. :)
[06:05] <dr_willis> !find k3b
[06:05] <ubotu> Found: k3b, k3b-i18n, libk3b-dev, libk3b2, libk3b2-mp3
[06:05] <hero> oh, what is it then?
[06:05] <hero> ah, thank you
[06:05] <K-Ryan> !k3b
[06:05] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[06:05] <iZen> are there any hotkeys for a terminal window
[06:05] <dr_willis> that wouldbe converting mp3 to a wav. :)
[06:05] <dr_willis> reencoding it.
[06:05] <dr_willis> do you 'rip' gif to jpg?
[06:05] <dr_willis> :)
[06:05] <hero> dunno
[06:06] <hero> so wav-->mp3=rip?
[06:06] <hero> you sure about that?
[06:06] <dr_willis> No.. putting a CDrom in the drive  and converting the tracks to mp3 is 'ripping' the cd to mp3
[06:06] <dr_willis> or ripping it to wav's :)
[06:07] <dr_willis> or to flac.. (whats what iuse)
[06:07] <dr_willis> then i convert the flac to mp3
[06:07] <dr_willis> rip = 'getting the data from the disk to the pc' :) i guess...
[06:07] <hero> so is flac better than ogg?
[06:07] <hitmanWilly> hero: no compression on flac
[06:08] <dr_willis> its larger. and not lossy i think
[06:08] <dr_willis> or is it lossy? i forget
[06:08] <hitmanWilly> lossless
[06:08] <SmurfSlayer> dr_willis - Firefox can't seem to find it's "home" for pluggins... The scanner just keeps scanning acroos the screen...
[06:08] <dr_willis> SmurfSlayer,  odd...
[06:09] <dr_willis> i always found the term 'lossless' odd.. :)
[06:09] <iqag> hero: flac is ogg
[06:09] <hitmanWilly> vorbis (the audio format of .ogg files) is a lossy format, but seems (at least to me) to have a higher quality than mp3 at similar bitrates
[06:09] <dr_willis> flac is a lossless ogg format then?
[06:09] <hitmanWilly> ogg is just the container, like avi
[06:10] <iqag> ogg includes flac (lossless), vorbis (lossy), theora (video), speex (speech)
[06:10] <iZen> Dr, kde-devel in synaptic will get you the basics and so will sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:10] <iZen> just so yah know if you wanted to know...
[06:11] <dr_willis> I normally keep a script from my other installs that bulk-install  the stuff :)
[06:11] <dr_willis> I gotta work on that apt-caching server someday
[06:11] <dr_willis> save me some time
[06:12] <SmurfSlayer> dr_willis - It appears to be the pluggin installer that is the problem.  Now nothing works again...
[06:12] <hero> so there is no .flac
[06:12] <hero> only .ogg
[06:13] <dr_willis> SmurfSlayer,  you tried to install some plugins?
[06:14] <SmurfSlayer> Dr_willis - yes, I go to the page I want to be at.  It says I need a pluggin, so click on install pluggin.  And then the "scanner bar" just scrolls across that new window forever, nothing ever happens.
[06:14] <fyrmedic> Where can I find a list of packages in the server version of ubuntu?
[06:14] <pyrotix_> making an html document in quanta: table is being rendered at the middle of a page as opposed to the top. How do I move it to the top, or what channel would I go to have a better chance of getting an answer?
[06:15] <dr_willis> SmurfSlayer,  DONT let the browser install plugins that way.
[06:15] <iZen> does Kubuntu recognize touchpads in the mouse options because the trackpad click is being really touchy and id like to turn it off.
[06:15] <dr_willis> install the stuff system wide, with the repository/package manager
[06:15] <dr_willis> iZen,  is it a synaptic touchpad?
[06:15] <dr_willis> !info ksynaptic
[06:15] <ubotu> Package ksynaptic does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:15] <dr_willis> Hmm  how do ya spell that
[06:16] <iZen> its a Sony Vaio Laptop
[06:16] <dr_willis> !find synap
[06:16] <ubotu> Found: synaptic, xserver-xorg-input-synaptics, gsynaptics, ksynaptics, libsynaptics-dev (and 3 others)
[06:16] <dr_willis> iZen,  yes.. but theres differnet brans/kinds of touchpads. :)
[06:16] <SmurfSlayer> dr_willis - how do I do that?
[06:16] <dr_willis> !info ksynaptics
[06:16] <ubotu> ksynaptics: Synaptics TouchPad configuration tool for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 209 kB, installed size 1012 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc sparc)
[06:16] <iZen> I have no clue... I wish I built it but I didnt
[06:16] <dr_willis> SmurfSlayer,  depends on the plugin
[06:17] <dr_willis> iZen,  could install ksynaptics and let it do some tweaking/settings.
[06:17] <dr_willis> most laptops ive see are synaptic brand touchpads
[06:17] <iZen> cool ty for the info again
[06:18] <SmurfSlayer> dr_willis - Java.
[06:18] <dr_willis> SmurfSlayer,  you definiatly DONT want to let the browser install that
[06:18] <dr_willis> !java
[06:18] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[06:18] <dr_willis> install    sun-java6-jre
[06:18] <dr_willis> :)
[06:19] <dr_willis> !flash
[06:19] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[06:19] <dr_willis> what else is there.. java and flash - thats about it
[06:20] <Darkkish_Box> where is the kate executable located?
[06:21] <hitmanWilly> Darkkish_Box: probably either /usr/bin/ or /usr/local/bin
[06:22] <Darkkish_Box> thanks
[06:24] <Art_> Anyone have experience with Ubuntu-Ultimate?
[06:26] <hitmanWilly> Art_: what's the problem?
[06:27] <hitmanWilly> Art_: its just edgy with some extra software, right?
[06:27] <hitmanWilly> ok.....
[06:28] <SmurfSlayer> My adpet died... how do I kill it, I can't start a new one.
[06:28] <hitmanWilly> !adeptfix
[06:28] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[06:30] <hitmanWilly> SmurfSlayer: it probably won't start due to dpkg being locked
[06:31] <SmurfSlayer> Yeah, I did the install for the sun java, and it says it has not route to host for a whole bunch of them...
[06:31] <hitmanWilly> SmurfSlayer: try with apt-get in konsole
[06:31] <dr_willis> some servers are down it seems lately
[06:31] <SmurfSlayer> That is what I did hitmanwilly, from the konsole...
[06:32] <hitmanWilly> SmurfSlayer: ok, servers are just probably down
[06:32] <SmurfSlayer> And the actual adept manager has beening waiting a long time for "headers"... so I'm thinking something is dead somewhere...
[06:33] <SmurfSlayer> And I wonder if that is what is causing Firefox to not be able to find its pluggins.
[06:34] <SmurfSlayer> And then after awhile it just crashes...
[06:34] <khaije1bb> what's the chan for compiz/beryl stuff?
[06:35] <K-Ryan> #ubuntu-effects
[06:36] <SmurfSlayer> Hitmanwilly?
[06:36] <SmurfSlayer> dr_willis?
[06:37] <hitmanWilly> SmurfSlayer: you rang?
[06:37] <SmurfSlayer> Looks like the lag is getting bad...  I thought I lost everyone there for a minute!
[06:38] <hitmanWilly> SmurfSlayer: nah, i just stepped afk for a minute
[06:38] <SmurfSlayer> Oh!  okay...
[06:38] <SmurfSlayer> Well, I will keep all the information that you and Dr Willis gave me for the flash and Java, and try it again at a later time when maybe the servers will be up.
[06:38] <SmurfSlayer> Thanks for the help guys!
[06:39] <hitmanWilly> SmurfSlayer: yeah, probably a good idea
[06:39] <dr_willis> SmurfSlayer,  thers a lot of dead/slow servers right now.. not sure whats going on.
[06:39] <dr_willis> too many kids downloading the spiderman movie perhaps
[06:39] <hitmanWilly> massive updating/maintainance maybe?
[06:40] <dr_willis> just saw a few updates today
[06:40] <dr_willis> not many lately
[06:40] <hitmanWilly> dr_willis: maybe an apache update?
[06:40] <dr_willis> Not sure. :)
[06:40] <hitmanWilly> that'd do it, probably
[06:40] <dr_willis> ive learned to have patience
[06:40] <dr_willis> IP 0.0.0.0 is blacklisted. Connection denied.
[06:40] <hitmanWilly> well, the gentoo servers are running pretty good, at least :P
[06:41] <dr_willis> Hmm.. now how is ip 0.0.0.0.0 trying to get a torrent
[06:41] <dr_willis> :)
[06:41] <hitmanWilly> lol
[06:41] <dr_willis> oh wait 0.0.0.0
[06:41] <dr_willis> :)
[06:41] <hitmanWilly> yeah, got that, not completely network illiterate :P
[06:42] <dr_willis> "want a fast quake server? try 'server 127.0.0.1'
[06:42] <hitmanWilly> rofl
[06:42] <dr_willis> "wow thats a low ping server! but its always empty!"
[06:42] <dr_willis> :)
[06:42] <dr_willis> the good old days!
[06:42] <khaije1bb> or ::1
[06:42] <dr_willis> this was way befor ipv6 :)
[06:43] <dr_willis> well night all.
[06:43] <dr_willis> exit
[06:43] <dr_willis> it is late at night.. somewhere..
[06:43] <dr_willis> HERE even! :)
[06:43] <khaije1bb> sorry I was looking back on the recent future again!
[06:49] <Macrosoft> is there an estimate for when KDE4 will be released
[06:49] <hitmanWilly> mid october
[06:49] <hitmanWilly> IIRC
[06:49] <Macrosoft> ok
[06:50] <phoenixz> Hi there, I just installed kubuntu and I want to use apache, which I also installed but.. where is the base directory?! Where can I place a site??
[06:51] <hitmanWilly> phoenixz: i thinks its /var/www/ iirc
[06:51] <hitmanWilly> phoenixz: or /etc/www/ or something like that
[06:51] <phoenixz> hitmanWilly, well, directly in /var/www? not /var/www/html ?
[06:51] <phoenixz> hitmanWilly, There is /var/www yeah
[06:52] <hitmanWilly> phoenixz: not really sure, never really played with it myself :P
[06:52] <K-Ryan> !xorg
[06:52] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:52] <hitmanWilly> phoenixz: try googling for apache tutorials
[06:54] <K-Ryan> Where is xorg.conf?
[06:54] <hitmanWilly> K-Ryan: /etc/X11
[06:54] <K-Ryan>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf right?
[06:54] <K-Ryan> Yeah, thought so
[07:01] <K-Ryan> Wow that was a massive
[07:01] <K-Ryan> I don't remember what
[07:01] <K-Ryan> !netsplit
[07:01] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[07:01] <K-Ryan> Yeah! Netsplit!
[07:01] <K-Ryan> A massive netsplit!
[07:02] <ubuntu_> hi guys I have the next problem installing kubuntu feisty : the installation reaches the 87 % but after that it suddently crashes and it doesnt give any error message..... It just closes......
[07:02] <ubuntu_> I choose manual partition and when I click finish it says:
[07:02] <ubuntu_> cluster size is 2k, expected size is 1k
[07:03] <ubuntu_> windows may not like it
[07:03] <ubuntu_> i dont know if that's causing the error....
[07:03] <ubuntu_> so...when the installer crashes if I reboot the computer
[07:04] <ubuntu_> the grub is in form of a shell instead of giving me a list of bootable systems
[07:04] <Kprofthreat> Uh...oh
[07:04] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu_: yeah, that means grub didn't install all the way
[07:04] <ubuntu_> but if I check the disk....the system is installed.....
[07:04] <SmurfSlayer> It appears the netsplit continues...
[07:04] <ubuntu_> so...can I fix it only installing grub_
[07:04] <ubuntu_> ??
[07:05] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu_: maybe, depends on how much of the install actually completed
[07:05] <ubuntu_> or...how can I avoid the message: cluster size is 2 k........I mean......how can I fix what is wrong?
[07:05] <ubuntu_> I had the same kubuntu installed before....
[07:06] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu_: can you boot the system at all?
[07:06] <ubuntu_> I just made bigger the partitions....
[07:06] <ubuntu_> no... :S im in the live cd
[07:06] <ubuntu_> but a week ago it was perfect
[07:06] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu_: you said grub drops you to a cmd prompt, right?
[07:06] <ubuntu_> exactly
[07:07] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu_: you can attempt a boot from that
[07:07] <ubuntu_> I already tried that...it says that the kernel must be loaded first
[07:08] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu_: yeah, you have to tell grub where the kernel is and where the root partition is
[07:09] <hitmanWilly> !grub | ubuntu_
[07:09] <ubotu> ubuntu_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:09] <ubuntu_> ok.....thanks a lot....and...what about the message of the cluster size_
[07:09] <ubuntu_> ?
[07:10] <hitmanWilly> crap, that tutorial assumes all the config files are still there
[07:10] <ubuntu_> it doesnt make sense for me...since I didnt change the cluster size...just the size of the partition >S
[07:11] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu_: ok, what partition is your kubuntu one?
[07:12] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu_: im gonna talk you through a grub reinstall
[07:12] <hitmanWilly> at least lets get that working
[07:12] <ubuntu_>  /dev/sda5
[07:13] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu_: ok, mount that on /media or somewhere
[07:13] <ubuntu_> it is active now
[07:13] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu_: ok, go ahead and sudo -i, you're going to want to be root to do this
[07:14] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu_: then chroot <mountpoint_of_sda5>>
[07:14] <ubuntu_> nice.......... I can-t open the terminal...
[07:14] <ubuntu_> it crashes
[07:14] <hitmanWilly> wtf?
[07:14] <ubuntu_> yep
[07:15] <ubuntu_> well...im gonna try something...
[07:15] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu_: ok, alt-f2 then xterm
[07:15] <Kprofthreat> Of course not.
[07:15] <ubuntu_> I'll see if the sabayon dvd that I have can fix the problem..... by using the gparted program that it has
[07:15] <hitmanWilly> the live-cd doesn't have xterm?
[07:15] <ubuntu_> do you think is a good idea_
[07:15] <ubuntu_> ?
[07:16] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu_: yeah, gparted seems to work better than its qt cousin from my experience
[07:16] <ubuntu_> no
[07:16] <ubuntu_> ok Ill try that...because im worried about that weird message about the clusters
[07:16] <ubuntu_> thanks a lot
[07:16] <hitmanWilly> np
[07:17] <Darkkish> how do i get a new IP?
[07:17] <hitmanWilly> Darkkish: as far as your actual IP to the world or one on a local network?
[07:18] <hero> does quanta teach you html/css/etc?
[07:18] <hitmanWilly> hero: doubt it, but maybe
[07:19] <juhorner25> Hi all
[07:19] <Darkkish> actual ip
[07:19] <hitmanWilly> Darkkish: that's set up by your ISP, you'll have to talk to them about that
[07:19] <hero> alright.
[07:19] <hero> htmldog it is
[07:20] <juhorner25> Can anybody help me with a GeForce 7800 GS for Kubuntu 7.04?
[07:20] <Darkkish> oh
[07:20] <Darkkish> okay
[07:20] <hitmanWilly> Darkkish: or you may be able to fake it with a proxy server
[07:20] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: whats the prob?
[07:21] <Macrosoft> heh, check this out: "< tmbg_> anyone given thought to using accelerometers from laptops as entropy inputs?
[07:21] <Macrosoft> < tkoskine> "Generating a new encryption key, please shake your computer" ? :)"
[07:21] <tmbg> yes that would be me.
[07:21] <hitmanWilly> lol
[07:21] <juhorner25> Well everything is running great after I installed
[07:21] <Darkkish> hitmanWilly: a proxy would be too slow
[07:21] <juhorner25> The only issue is my video card
[07:21] <Darkkish> i need to change my IP
[07:21] <juhorner25> I go configure it
[07:21] <Darkkish> i think i can do it from my router by releasing it
[07:21] <juhorner25> but it keeps reverting back to vesa
[07:21] <tmbg> I know it's weird but it's still an interesting idea
[07:22] <juhorner25> And I can't figure out how to download the Quake 4 Linux demo to test my card and see if it is working
[07:22] <Macrosoft> its funny too, i would like to have that on my wireless router
[07:22] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: run glxgears, better test platform :P
[07:22] <juhorner25> glxgears?
[07:23] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: its an opengl app designed as a test platform
[07:23] <juhorner25> Oh okay
[07:23] <juhorner25> Can I get that in the package manager?
[07:23] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: ok, how did you install the drivers, via apt or a gui tool
[07:24] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: it comes with opengl :P
[07:24] <juhorner25> For my video card?
[07:24] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: yes
[07:24] <Admiral_Chicago> !nvidia
[07:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:24] <juhorner25> It just detected that I had a GeForce 7 series
[07:24] <juhorner25> but when I click apply
[07:24] <juhorner25> and go back to the display config
[07:24] <juhorner25> It reverts back to vesa
[07:25] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: are you running the config app as root (kdesu)?
[07:25] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[07:25] <juhorner25> This is my first day on Linux lol
[07:25] <juhorner25> I really don't know
[07:25] <juhorner25> I'm sorry
[07:25] <MilhousePunkRock> Does someone happen to know how to use the Intel UPnP tools to debug upnp?
[07:26] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: did it ask for a passwd when you opened it?
[07:26] <Ahmuck> hi, webmail for tbird works prior to installing apache2.  what file do i need to change to allow access for localhost:110 and 25?
[07:26] <juhorner25> I had to click "adminstrator"
[07:26] <Ahmuck> hi, webmail for tbird works prior to installing apache2.  what file do i need to change to allow access for localhost:110 and 25?
[07:26] <juhorner25> Because it said I couldn't change it without being root
[07:26] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: did you install the binary drivers?
[07:27] <juhorner25> I was looking on Nvidia's site to find linux drivers
[07:27] <juhorner25> Just confusing and I didn't want to screw anything up
[07:27] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: ok, i'll walk you through this
[07:27] <juhorner25> I'm looking at this link the other guy gave
[07:27] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: open up a konsole
[07:27] <juhorner25> Okay
[07:27] <juhorner25> Got it
[07:28] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: run this: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[07:28] <juhorner25> Okay, it did
[07:29] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: now, run this: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[07:29] <juhorner25> Got it
[07:29] <Darkkish> ugh
[07:29] <Darkkish> i did release renew
[07:29] <Darkkish> and my IP is dynamic...
[07:30] <Darkkish> but i still have the same one What the hell?
[07:30] <hitmanWilly> juhorner, now, log out and back in, and it should be working
[07:30] <juhorner25> Okay, how will I know the change?
[07:30] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: you should see the nvidia logo pop up
[07:30] <juhorner25> Oh okay
[07:31] <juhorner25> brb
[07:31] <hitmanWilly> k
[07:31] <hitmanWilly> i know you're supposed to use the gui tools for this now, but the terminal is SO much easier
[07:32] <hero> what goes in a flash drive? the most used things, i mean.
[07:33] <hitmanWilly> Darkkish: the router controls the IPs for the local network, the big server it connects to on the ISP end is what assigns IP addresses
[07:38] <juhorner25> hitmanWilly
[07:38] <juhorner25> It worked
[07:39] <juhorner25> Now I have my sky high resolutions back
[07:39] <juhorner25> :-D
[07:39] <juhorner25> Thanks so much
[07:39] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: :)
[07:40] <juhorner25> The interesting thing is everywhere I looked online it seemed so difficult
[07:40] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: just to run a quick test, try this in a console glxinfo | grep direct
[07:41] <hitmanWilly> it should return direct rendering: Yes
[07:41] <juhorner25> Yep
[07:41] <juhorner25> It did
[07:42] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: ok, you're set to go, then
[07:42] <juhorner25> So you did it in about three commands
[07:42] <juhorner25> Others I see were like a page
[07:42] <juhorner25> I am trying to figure out how to learn these things so I can help others when I get better at it
[07:42] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: most of the tutorials you see have you edit xorg.conf by hand, which usually isn't necessary unless you run into trouble
[07:43] <juhorner25> You need to make those lines a sticky in the forums, that could save a lot of people the trouble
[07:44] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: tne nvidia-xconfig thing doesn't always work for people, plus ubuntu's got a new gui tool for doing it and they're trying to get people to start using that
[07:44] <Ahmuck> hi, webmail for tbird works prior to installing apache2.  what file do i need to change to allow access for localhost:110 and 25?
[07:45] <hitmanWilly> Ahmuck: /etc/hosts.allow maybe?
[07:45] <juhorner25> Oh they do?  I didn't see the gui for it
[07:45] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: its not installed by default on kubuntu
[07:46] <juhorner25> Well I found the Quake 4 Linux demo I want to download but the question is
[07:46] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: its actually a gnome tool
[07:46] <juhorner25> How do I download it?  It keeps opening Kate
[07:46] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: its a shell script, like a batch file, right click and save as
[07:47] <Gunz>  +
[07:48] <hitmanWilly> the browser thinks its a text file
[07:48] <hitmanWilly> which in all actuality it is
[07:49] <Darkkish_Box> blelblblelblerl
[07:49] <Darkkish_Box> does anyone here have comcast?
[07:49] <juhorner25> Oka
[07:49] <juhorner25> I hit save as
[07:49] <Ahmuck> hitmanWilly: can i specify port in the host file ?
[07:49] <juhorner25> quake4-linux-1.0-demo.x86.run
[07:49] <hitmanWilly> Ahmuck: not sure...
[07:50] <hitmanWilly> Ahmuck: you should be able to i would think
[07:50] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: where is it saved?
[07:50] <juhorner25> To my desktop
[07:50] <juhorner25> Wait
[07:50] <juhorner25> It is saved here
[07:51] <juhorner25> home slash juhorner25
[07:51] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: ok, open up a console
[07:51] <juhorner25> ok
[07:51] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: there's gui ways to do all of this, im just more comfortable in a cmd line :)
[07:52] <juhorner25> Why can't they just have an installer lol
[07:52] <Darkkish_Box> lolol
[07:52] <juhorner25> :-p
[07:52] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: that's what this is :)
[07:52] <juhorner25> I mean just by clicking the file I downloaded
[07:53] <juhorner25> I need to learn the cmd lines though
[07:53] <juhorner25> Before I use the GUI too much
[07:53] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: ok, chmod +x quake<tab key>
[07:53] <hitmanWilly> as in hit the tab key
[07:53] <juhorner25> ok
[07:54] <hitmanWilly> tab completion is nice, isn't it :P
[07:54] <juhorner25> lol ok got that
[07:54] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: ok, now ./quake<tab key> should run it
[07:55] <Daisuke-Ido> tab completion.  something i rely on so much i try it in here.  on regular words.  it doesn't work :(
[07:56] <hitmanWilly> Daisuke-Ido: i know, pita XD
[07:56] <Daisuke-Ido> so did you make it to the movie?
[07:56] <hitmanWilly> nah, gonna try tommorrow, or actually tonight now :)
[07:56] <Daisuke-Ido> :D
[07:57] <juhorner25> I don't mean to bother you but what exactly does chmod +x actually mean?
[07:57] <Daisuke-Ido> going again this weekend, and of course i have a date with the order of the phoenix at midnight tomorrow :D
[07:57] <juhorner25> And how do you know that's how to do it?
[07:57] <Daisuke-Ido> juhorner25: chmod is change permissions
[07:57] <Daisuke-Ido> +x means "make executable"
[07:57] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: in linux, executability is actually a file permission
[07:58] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: in nix, file extensions really don't mean anything
[07:59] <Daisuke-Ido> juhorner25: and don't apologize, i assure you most of the people that have been here for a while are thrilled when a new user shows an interest in how and why things work the way they do in linux.
[07:59] <hitmanWilly> yes, its nice when someone in here actually wants to learn
[08:00] <juhorner25> Okay back, I'm writing this down lol
[08:00] <juhorner25> So, if I downloaded Opera, the web browser
[08:00] <hitmanWilly> vice "Just tell me the command!" :P
[08:00] <juhorner25> In order to "install" it after downloading
[08:00] <juhorner25> I need to change the permission
[08:00] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: oh, you don't know about adept yet, do you?
[08:00] <juhorner25> Is that the package managemet?
[08:00] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: a front end to it
[08:01] <juhorner25> Yeah I used it once
[08:01] <MilhousePunkRock> juhorner25: You can get most software you want from apt-get/adept (Kubuntu's packet manager), if you have the right repositories
[08:01] <juhorner25> Just tried to find a small 3d game to test my videocard
[08:01] <juhorner25> So commerical software will not be there right?
[08:01] <MilhousePunkRock> juhorner25: glxgears
[08:02] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: not so much, but there is a commercial repo, for "free as in beer" stuff
[08:02] <corevette> anyone want to help out a fellow digger? ;-)
[08:02] <corevette> http://digg.com/tech_news/69_Tech_Blogs_That_Don_t_Suck
[08:02] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: like opera :)
[08:03] <hitmanWilly> anyway, i need to get some sleep. c'yall later
[08:03] <juhorner25> Like the Quake 4 demo would not be there
[08:03] <juhorner25> Alright, take it easy hitman
[08:03] <juhorner25> Thanks for everything
[08:03] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: don't think that's in the repos yet
[08:04] <MilhousePunkRock> juhorner25: Try hitman<tab key>
[08:04] <MilhousePunkRock> juhorner25: Because if you type the complete name, the person you adress will see the line highlighted
[08:04] <juhorner25> Oh okay
[08:04] <juhorner25> MilhousePunkRock: Like this?
[08:04] <Macrosoft> it depends on what app you use for irc
[08:05] <pipit> oot : any1 get problem when apt-get ?
[08:05] <MilhousePunkRock> juhorner25: Exactly, in Konversation, I get a little OSD and the line is written in red
[08:05] <juhorner25> MilhousePunkRock: Oh okay, I wondered how you were doing that
[08:06] <Macrosoft> on mine when someone mentions me, the taskbar flashes annoyingly until i bring up that window
[08:06] <MilhousePunkRock> juhorner25: Of course you could completely type the name yourself, but tab completion is much easier
[08:06] <juhorner25> MilhousePunkRock: LoL yeah, no doubt
[08:06] <juhorner25> MilhousePunkRock: Linux has so much depth, I feel like I am always learning something
[08:06] <MilhousePunkRock> Not to forget the orange flashing of the Konversation icon in the system area
[08:06] <juhorner25> MilhousePunkRock: Even doing common tasks
[08:07] <Macrosoft> you dont have to press tab...if you type Macro: <chat here> it still works
[08:07] <MilhousePunkRock> juhorner25: As you said it's your first day, you will learn a lot in the near future
[08:07] <juhorner25> MilhousePunkRock: Yeah, I know I have a long way to go
[08:07] <Macrosoft> you will learn things like this:
[08:08] <Daisuke-Ido> juhorner25: a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step
[08:08] <MilhousePunkRock> Macrosoft: What client are you using? I guess it depends on the highlighting you set up
[08:08] <juhorner25> MilhousePunkRock: It is a lot of fun learning it
[08:08] <juhorner25> MilhousePunkRock: And having a community to learn with is awesome
[08:08] <Daisuke-Ido> i've always seen that as a very apt description of learning linux.
[08:08] <MilhousePunkRock> Back to my initial question, does someone know how to use the Intel UPnp tools?
[08:08] <Macrosoft> im using kopete, in KDE and GNOME
[08:09] <K`zan> Hi folks, I installed the nvidia drivers and now to get X up I have to log in a root, rmmod nvidia, modprobe nvidia and restart kdm, what did I miss?
[08:09] <MilhousePunkRock> Macrosoft: I use that as my IM, but I never tried it for IRC
[08:09] <Macrosoft> i use it for IM too
[08:09] <Macrosoft> mainly because it notifies me when i get new email
[08:10] <MilhousePunkRock> Macrosoft: Well, KMail does that for me...
[08:11] <carutsu> !virtualization
[08:11] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[08:11] <carutsu> which one is better?
[08:11] <carutsu> !virtualbox
[08:11] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[08:12] <Macrosoft> anyone else think the effects in compiz are cool (translucency, woblly windows, fade effect, etc.)
[08:12] <Daisuke-Ido> i do like the gl WMs
[08:12] <Daisuke-Ido> (compiz/beryl)
[08:12] <Macrosoft> i wish it wasnt so buggyy
[08:12] <MilhousePunkRock> Macrosoft: Doesn't work on my Laptop with the poor 8 MB savage video chip
[08:12] <Daisuke-Ido> though i think i'm going to go straight compiz because of the post-merger additions
[08:14] <juhorner25> I have the beryl manager but I don't know how to apply my changes
[08:14] <Darkkish_Box> juhorner25:
[08:14] <Macrosoft> there should be an app in your menubar for that
[08:14] <Daisuke-Ido> if you're not running beryl itse'f you're not making any changes
[08:15] <Darkkish_Box> juhorner25: you have both beryl and the manager installed?
[08:15] <SanityInAnarchy> Question: How can I boot the Kubuntu desktop CD without X?
[08:15] <Daisuke-Ido> and if you're not running the proprietary drivers for your vid card (ati/nvidia) you'll have a problem running beryl
[08:15] <Darkkish_Box> SanityInAnarchy: why?
[08:15] <SanityInAnarchy> Darkkish_Box:  Every single tool I want to use off the livecd is commandline
[08:15] <Ahmuck> i am getting localhost denied.  why ?
[08:15] <Darkkish_Box> SanityInAnarchy: can't you just open a console?
[08:15] <SanityInAnarchy> and it's on a laptop old enough that I'm actually hitting the OOM killer with X
[08:16] <Macrosoft> then ude konsole
[08:16] <Macrosoft> *use
[08:16] <SanityInAnarchy> Darkkish_Box:  I hit ctrl+alt+f1, I'm now waiting -- for like 5-10 mins -- on a ps command
[08:16] <SanityInAnarchy> to try and figure out how to kill X
[08:16] <Macrosoft> log out
[08:16] <SanityInAnarchy> is there a way to do this, or do I have to spend half an hour to get a usable rescue disk?
[08:16] <Macrosoft> and select failsafe terminal session
[08:17] <juhorner25> Darkkish_Box: I think I have both
[08:17] <juhorner25> I downloaded what was in the packet manager
[08:19] <tino_> hola alguien habla en espaol
[08:19] <MilhousePunkRock> !es
[08:19] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:24] <davascript> #kubuntu-es for all your espanol needs
[08:24] <davascript> oh the bot takes care of that
[08:24] <juhorner25> Anybody know how to apply the beryl settings you make in the settings manager?
[08:25] <davascript> ujs the cli it works better
[08:25] <stdin> juhorner25: they are applied automatically
[08:26] <juhorner25> stdin: hmmm... without reboot?  I can't get the cube desktop to work unless there's a key to do it that I am not pressing
[08:26] <stdin> juhorner25: the default is Ctrl-Alt-Right Click IIRC
[08:28] <juhorner25> I tried ctrl+alt+right click
[08:34] <m4n> how do I get the version of kubutu am running
[08:34] <m4n> kubuntu*
[08:34] <stdin> !version | m4n
[08:34] <ubotu> m4n: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[08:34] <m4n> kewl. thanks
[08:34] <phoenixz> m trying to install a local .deb file with apt-get, but all I get is "E: Couldn't find package"  Which package is it talking about?!?! And how can I fix this?
[08:34] <stdin> !deb | phoenixz
[08:34] <ubotu> phoenixz: deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[08:35] <stdin> phoenixz: apt can't install deb's, it's only used to fetch them and resolve dependencies. dpkg installs them
[08:36] <phoenixz> ahah
[08:36] <meuhlol> someone know how to install SHockwave plugin for firefox?
[08:36] <stdin> meuhlol: simple answer is you can't
[08:36] <phoenixz> stdin, so, how could I install this file WITH automatic dependancy resolving, downloading and installing?
[08:36] <stdin> meuhlol: adobe hasn't released a linux version
[08:36] <meuhlol> stdin: i think you are not reason lol, nspluginwrapper maybe?
[08:37] <stdin> phoenixz: in a terminal do "sudo dpkg -i /path/to/local/file.deb"
[08:37] <stdin> meuhlol: no, there is no linux version at all
[08:38] <stdin> meuhlol: nspluginwrapper is x86 wrapper for 63bit
[08:38] <stdin> *64bit
[08:38] <meuhlol> stdin: fuck :'( yes i know, but...
[08:38] <meuhlol> rofl i want play couronne delux at miniclip :p
[08:38] <meuhlol> want beat them all xD
[08:38] <tino_> buenas
[08:38] <stdin> blame adobe
[08:38] <tino_> algun espaol
[08:38] <meuhlol> sure, cretins of adobe! xD but i love photoshop :p
[08:39] <phoenixz> stdin, that gives me the exact same problem.. there are dependancies missing that need to be downloaded and installed.. How would that be done in combination?
[08:39] <stdin> !es | tino_
[08:39] <ubotu> tino_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:39] <meuhlol> tino /join #kubuntu-es
[08:39] <stdin> phoenixz: ok, when you've done the dpkg stuff, it can tell apt the deps. so now just do "sudo apt-get -f install"
[08:39] <meuhlol> phoenixz: what dependecies & for what?
[08:40] <meuhlol> &/or sudo apt-get update xD
[08:40] <kraut> moin
[08:40] <stdin> meuhlol: no, that won't work
[08:40] <meuhlol> before install something i always updating :)
[08:41] <meuhlol> imb
[08:41] <phoenixz> meuhlol svk, version 2.01
[08:41] <stdin> it's a deb file, not a package in the repos
[08:42] <meuhlol> oh okey
[08:42] <phoenixz> stdin, actually, the file is in the repos, but in an old version.. it looks like the correct version is available in some apt-get repository, but I have no clue how to get that one
[08:42] <phoenixz> http://packages.qa.debian.org/s/svk.html  it shows version 2.01 available in "testing".. How would I get that one instead of the (hopelessly outdated) 1.08
[08:42] <phoenixz> ?
[08:42] <stdin> phoenixz: it's not a great idea to add 3rd party repos to your sources.list
[08:42] <stdin> phoenixz: unless you know what you're doing
[08:43] <phoenixz> stdin, This is not 3rd party, is it?
[08:43] <stdin> phoenixz: it's a debian repo, this isn't debian
[08:43] <phoenixz> I thought kubuntu was like ontop of debian?
[08:44] <stdin> phoenixz: not exactly, it's based on debian but we add our own patches and use different version numbers sometimes
[08:44] <stdin> phoenixz: that can mess your system up if they get confused
[08:45] <meuhlol> juste one question: someone can tell me, what is an "good" cd/dvd iso's emulator for nux?
[08:45] <stdin> meuhlol: heh, it's built in
[08:46] <stdin> !iso
[08:46] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[08:46] <neptunepink> now what's an interesting package that I haven't installed....
[08:46] <meuhlol> stdin: oO lol
[08:46] <stdin> meuhlol: linux is cool like that :p
[08:46] <meuhlol> yeah ! thank you
[08:47] <meuhlol> fuck windoze i had my doze xD
[08:47] <Hobbsee> !language | meuhlol
[08:47] <ubotu> meuhlol: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:48] <meuhlol> oki :)
[08:48] <stdin> hey Hobbsee :)
[08:48] <Hobbsee> hi stdin
[08:48] <phoenixz> stdin, Any place where I could see IF there is a newer version availabe?
[08:49] <stdin> phoenixz: I would say in -backports, but I happen to know that the version in there is 1.08-2ubuntu1
[08:51] <meuhlol> stdin: when i try to mount an iso, but it's says "cant find" something in fstab :/
[08:53] <stdin> meuhlol: make sure you use the right syntax, it goes like this: sudo -o loop mount /path/to/my/file.iso /place/to/mount/the/iso/
[08:53] <stdin> meuhlol: opps, forgot the "mount"
[08:53] <stdin> meuhlol:  sudo mount -o loop mount /path/to/my/file.iso /place/to/mount/the/iso/
[08:54] <emonkey> stdin, two times mount:  mount -o loop mount
[08:54] <Seek_Therapy_Now> anyone here know how to configure konversation?
[08:54] <stdin> arg
[08:54] <stdin> "sudo mount -o loop /path/to/my/file.iso /place/to/mount/the/iso/" < there :P
[08:55] <stdin> Seek_Therapy_Now: to do what?
[08:55] <meuhlol> ah oki stdin thanks
[08:55] <stdin> meuhlol: if it complains about the filesystem put "-t iso9660" at the end of that
[08:55] <Seek_Therapy_Now> spell and search for other channels, nothing fancy
[08:56] <stdin> Seek_Therapy_Now: atm you can only have one language selected as default, you'd have to change it manually when running a check to the language of the channel
[08:57] <Seek_Therapy_Now> i thought i did this before
[08:57] <Seek_Therapy_Now> you know what's strange ?
[08:57] <stdin> Seek_Therapy_Now: it's because konvorsation reads the default from KDEs settigns
[08:57] <meuhlol> stdin: how to unmount? the same but "umount" ?
[08:58] <Seek_Therapy_Now> x-chat gnome won't start either
[08:58] <Seek_Therapy_Now> it opens then shuts down
[08:58] <stdin> meuhlol: you just need to put the path you mounted the image to, no need for all those options
[08:58] <meuhlol> stdin: to unmount... what is commands?
[08:59] <stdin> meuhlol: eg, if you mounted it to "/home/me/mounts", then you'd run "sudo umount /home/me/mounts"
[08:59] <meuhlol> thnaks
[09:01] <Seek_Therapy_Now> nope it opens then shuts down
[09:02] <stdin> try running it from konsole to check for any error
[09:07] <Seek_Therapy_Now> how do i run it from konsole...i just installed it
[09:08] <stdin> Seek_Therapy_Now: xchat maybe?
[09:09] <Seek_Therapy_Now> what just type it in
[09:09] <Daisuke-Ido> yeah, that's how the console works :)
[09:09] <stdin> Seek_Therapy_Now: try: xchat-gnome
[09:09] <Daisuke-Ido> it's incredibly powerful
[09:10] <Daisuke-Ido> but takes some patience and willingness to learn ;)
[09:10] <Seek_Therapy_Now> nope shut down again
[09:10] <stdin> anything output on the terminal tho?
[09:11] <Seek_Therapy_Now> no nothing...it opens for a second and then shuts down
[09:11] <crocodile> when I watch movies with VLC and compiz, the movie playback is 'seethrough'
[09:11] <crocodile> I can see the desktopthrough the picture
[09:11] <Daisuke-Ido> crocodile: turn off compiz.
[09:12] <crocodile> that's a shitty solution..
[09:12] <Daisuke-Ido> or render differently with vlc
[09:12] <crocodile> that's a better onne, how?
[09:12] <Macrosoft> beryl made gdm crash... lesson learned
[09:12] <Daisuke-Ido> it's a gl desktop and vlc uses gl output, the two don't play well together.
[09:12] <Daisuke-Ido> lemme look
[09:13] <Daisuke-Ido> preferences > video > output modules
[09:13] <Daisuke-Ido> advanced settings
[09:13] <Daisuke-Ido> pick one from the dropdown
[09:13] <Daisuke-Ido> x11 might work well
[09:14] <Daisuke-Ido> or xvideo
[09:15] <Daisuke-Ido> bedtime
[09:15] <crocodile> x11 is still transparent, trying xvideo
[09:16] <Daisuke-Ido> gl rendering might do it, but idunno
[09:16] <crocodile> xvideo too :(
[09:17] <crocodile> every setting is actually still transparent
[09:17] <crocodile> guess I need to hit the forums
[09:29] <Ryaren> hi!
[09:30] <Ryaren> where can i find that log file what save what is happening when i restart the X?
[09:30] <Ryaren> because it is freezing when I press ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:31] <pag> Ryaren, /var/log/xorg.log ?
[09:31] <Ryaren> It is not good because
[09:31] <Ryaren> when i restart the X it is freezing and I can get another tab (alt+f1,f2 etc)
[09:31] <pag> Ryaren, /var/log/Xorg.0.log is the right path
[09:31] <Ryaren> and I have to reboot the machine
[09:32] <Ryaren> and then the xorg file re-write
[09:32] <pag> Ryaren, tried ctlr+alt+fX ?
[09:32] <Ryaren> i CAN'T get another tab :)
[09:32] <Ryaren> yes
[09:32] <Ryaren> ofcourse
[09:32] <Ryaren> but nothin happens
[09:32] <Ryaren> I don't know what is wrong
[09:32] <pag> Ryaren, boot from live-cd, ant take a look from there?
[09:33] <pag> Ryaren, or boot into the rescue-mode
[09:33] <Ryaren> that's a good idea!
[09:33] <Ryaren> :)
[09:33] <Ryaren> thank you
[09:33] <pag> np :)
[09:33] <Ryaren> gonna try
[09:33] <meuhlol> someone can tell me how to use .run files ?
[09:35] <pag> meuhlol, iirc .run-files are for Windows?  But if they're not, the you should give theme execution (sp?) right and run them
[09:35] <pag> meuhlol, (sudo) chmod u+x /path/to/file   and  /path/to/file
[09:38] <anryko> Ryaren: sh blabla.run
[09:39] <meuhlol> pag: im on FF :) just need to make it executable? oh! nice :)
[09:39] <meuhlol> thanks
[09:39] <meuhlol> anryko: thnks
[09:40] <meuhlol> huh
[09:41] <meuhlol> someone knows a loki installers? i have an cd image file (iso) that i mounted up in /media/cd1/ folder, but when i run Loki installer (.run file) he wants me to mount up an CD... how can i use LOKI with mounted iso?
[09:43] <anryko> try to mount iso to /cdrom...
[09:45] <Ryaren> pag: The log file wasn't modified
[09:45] <meuhlol> already tryed... have an folder named cdrom0
[09:45] <meuhlol> anryko: but he says always the same... please mount a cd :/
[09:45] <Ryaren> but now it is freezing in here: reloading system log daemon
[09:46] <pag> Ryaren, strange... try to boot without "quiet" and "splash" kernel-modules.. it may give you some information.
[09:47] <Ryaren> reboot is working
[09:47] <Ryaren> only the x-restart have trouble
[09:50] <pag> oh... Ryaren, then you could try to restart X from the command line; log on any other TTy (ctrl+alt+f1) and command sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[09:50] <Ryaren> okay
[09:52] <meuhlol> pag: any ideas please? about "howto" emulate an cd-rom? when i mount an iso, loki ask me to mount a cd :S i've tryed to mount up my iso in a /media/cdrom0/ but nothing changes :(
[09:53] <pag> meuhlol, sorry, I'm not familiar with Loki-installer or cdrom-emulation
[09:54] <meuhlol> pag sorry :'(
[09:55] <serega> hi guys. Is there anybody familiar with ALSA sound troubles?
[09:55] <MilhousePunkRock> How can I repair a non-contigous file system?
[09:55] <serega> fsck
[09:56] <MilhousePunkRock> serega: fsck checks, but does not repair by default
[09:56] <serega> fsck checks and repairs
[09:56] <serega> what kind of fs?
[09:56] <MilhousePunkRock> serega: ext3
[09:56] <anryko> fsck.ext3 -fy
[09:56] <MilhousePunkRock> just data on there, no system files or anything of high importance
[09:57] <serega> hmm... ext3 uses journalling how did you met fs corruption?)
[09:57] <tino_> #kubuntu-es
[09:58] <MilhousePunkRock> serega: That is a very good question, but 85 % non-contigous sounds pretty borked to me
[09:58] <serega> huh
[09:58] <serega> maybe you have old harddrive?
[09:59] <MilhousePunkRock> serega: It's about 2 weeks old...
[09:59] <phoenixz> Ive installed apache with php, but when I open a page in localhost, it shows me the source code, so php is not doing anything.. How can I debug this?
[09:59] <serega> babe
[09:59] <phoenixz> error_log does not show any problem with startup
[10:00] <Ryaren> pag: I realized the problem
[10:00] <pag> phoenixz, just a guess: have you got apache-php -module installed, and have you restarted apache since its installation?
[10:00] <jtong> hi all
[10:00] <Ryaren> When TwinView enabled I can't restart X
[10:01] <Ryaren> maybe the TV can't make appear the screen..
[10:01] <serega> ALSA distorts sound on simultaneous play. any suggestions?
[10:01] <pag> Ryaren, well that sucks :-/  Sorry, but I have no idea how to repair that (or is it even possible)
[10:02] <phoenixz> pag, if you mean libapache2-mod-php5? yeah, and php5 itself? too yeah, and I restarted
[10:02] <stdin> phoenixz: this page should help you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#head-59bdeb1f6438eddbde544b41ca0a5149c59624b6
[10:02] <phoenixz> pag, there were some missing symlinks in mod-enabled, which I also made
[10:02] <Ryaren> I'm looking for some kind of way to switch between TwinView metamodes
[10:02] <phoenixz> stdin, I'll checkitout, thanks!
[10:03] <Ryaren> and then before I want to restart the X I will swtich to that mode where the TV is null :)
[10:04] <phoenixz> stdin, gittot.. it was functioning all the time, the @(#*@(#* firefox cache didnt know that..
[10:05] <phoenixz> stdin, gittot = gottit...
[10:05] <phoenixz> stdin, its working perfectly, thanks :)
[10:05] <stdin> no problem
[10:06] <phoenixz> Just another question.. I used Fedora quite a bit until now.. used core 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7... and now Im on kubuntu, and wodering why the hell my computer is like 2x faster....
[10:07] <pag> phoenixz, less services running? no SELinux?
[10:07] <serega> guys, please help me with sound :)
[10:07] <phoenixz> I mean, adept-manager versus fedora yum is not even funny anymore.. :) when adept manager is finished installing a 50MB package, and shut down again, yum is still trying to start up!
[10:08] <reldruh> I'm trying to set up kmobiletools to sync with my cellphone (a samsung sch-a870) but without any luck. The kmobiletools configuration wants me to enter the path to the cell phone (/dev/mobile by default) but that doesn't exist for me even though bluetooth:/ picks up my phone and I have some services listed. Can anybody help me get it set up?
[10:09] <pag> phoenixz, wow... :) nice to hear, that Adept is fast compared to anything  ( I use command line to do my installations and upgrades *that* is fast :)
[10:10] <phoenixz> pag, I used to do command line yum for that too yeah.. yum is slowwww.. then the graphical counter part, yumex...Tea time!! forgettit, 5 minutes just to start up..
[10:12] <phoenixz> but in all, kubuntu is just really A LOT faster.. I have this heavy intranet system here, running on apache/php/mysql... database init on fedora would take a friggin 15 minutes.. on kubuntu it does the same in a whopping 1.30 minutes..
[10:13] <eagles0513875> lol
[10:13] <eagles0513875> kubuntu outperforms everydistro im trying out fc7 as a virtual machine lol that is a beast
[10:14] <phoenixz> I never wanted to try ubuntu because.. well.. gnome.. what can I say ;) Im not a fan of it, it would be nice for my mum I suppose..  But Kubuntu.. Great job everybody! :) thanks!
[10:15] <eagles0513875> u running a 64 bit or 32 bit os
[10:15] <eagles0513875> im running the 64bit version of kubuntu and man its the best 64bit os out there
[10:16] <eagles0513875> its amazing how much more u can multitask with it
[10:16] <goldfingermafia> how do i make other poeple see red?
[10:16] <eagles0513875> type the name first then hit tab to complete the name
[10:16] <eagles0513875> then u type what u say after that
[10:16] <pag> !tab | goldfingermafia
[10:16] <pag> oh yeah... ubotu doesn't work :'(
[10:16] <goldfingermafia> ty
[10:16] <eagles0513875> pag: whats wrong with him
[10:16] <eagles0513875> lol
[10:17] <pag> eagles0513875, netspilt I guess
[10:17] <eagles0513875> whats that
[10:17] <pag> eagles0513875, he's not on the channel
[10:17] <eagles0513875> ahh
[10:17] <eagles0513875> !netspilt
[10:17] <eagles0513875> haha i forgot he isnt here
[10:18] <pag> eagles0513875, https://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?search=netsplit  :)
[10:18] <jtong> can someone tell me how i can deselect some modules loading at bootup
[10:19] <eagles0513875> pag: ty
[10:19] <eagles0513875> phoenixz: im guessing ur using the 32bit version of kubuntu
[10:19] <phoenixz> eagles0513875, yeah, 32 computer, still... why?
[10:20] <eagles0513875> j/w
[10:20] <eagles0513875> phoenixz: kubuntu is the best 64bit os out there outperforms winblows x64
[10:21] <eagles0513875> phoenixz: it has the best support for alot of 64bit stuff
[10:21] <phoenixz> err, I think just about anything would outperform winblows 64 :)
[10:21] <eagles0513875> lol
[10:21] <goldfingermafia> anyone know how to set eth0 to my wifi card, im trying to run wireshark, and im on a new macbook
[10:21] <eagles0513875> i was having huge problems on my desktop
[10:21] <phoenixz> eagles0513875, Im seriously impressed...
[10:21] <eagles0513875> goldfingermafia: is it turned on
[10:21] <eagles0513875> phoenixz: is ur nick registered
[10:21] <eagles0513875> !register | phoenixz
[10:22] <eagles0513875> pag u have the link so phoenixz can register his nic
[10:22] <eagles0513875> k
[10:22] <goldfingermafia> eagles0513875: waht do you mean, it wont work in wireshark?
[10:22] <pag> clearly, we can't live without ubotu =)
[10:22] <eagles0513875> i know
[10:22] <phoenixz> My nick should be registered.. you mean here with freenode?
[10:22] <eagles0513875> ya
[10:22] <pag> http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[10:22] <eagles0513875> goldfingermafia: what im saying is it enabled
[10:22] <eagles0513875> phoenixz: have u identified urself
[10:23] <phoenixz> -NickServ- You have already identified
[10:23] <eagles0513875> ok
[10:23] <phoenixz> I think I have yeah ;)
[10:23] <eagles0513875> im going to pm ya so we dont flood the channel
[10:23] <phoenixz> pm?
[10:24] <eagles0513875> private message
[10:24] <eagles0513875> so that way we dont take the channel off topic
[10:24] <pag> eagles0513875, or you could take that to #kubuntu-offtopic
[10:24] <eagles0513875> pag: could do that too
[10:26] <Ray-> !rar
[10:26] <Ray-> !unrar
[10:26] <Ray-> :/
[10:26] <Ray-> the ark is not unraring the .rar files
[10:26] <pag> Ray-, sudo apt-get install unrar
[10:26] <whippy> morning,
[10:26] <whippy> does someone use kdevelop?
[10:27] <pag> Ray-, you have to have multiverse enabled
[10:27] <pag> whippy, I tried it for couple of times
[10:27] <goldfingermafia> anyone know waht an ARP packet is?
[10:27] <Ray-> pag: I dont know how to know if they are enabled or not
[10:27] <pag> goldfingermafia, "Apache Portable Runtime"?
[10:28] <whippy> @pag,
[10:28] <whippy> i now installed it
[10:28] <whippy> and designed an .ui
[10:28] <whippy> how can i run it?
[10:28] <Ray-> pag: I guess it worked :)
[10:28] <whippy> normally there is a compile button? but .ui seems to be included somewhere?
[10:28] <Ray-> Thank you.
[10:29] <pag> Ray-, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu <- just in case youll need that
[10:29] <neko> how install drivers rage 128 ?
[10:29] <neko> ati-driver-installer-8.37.6-x86.x86_64.run.part - its good ?
[10:29] <pag> whippy, sorry, I don't know. I just coded couple of Hello Worlds with it :-P
[10:30] <whippy> i see
[10:33] <neko> Help me
[10:34] <eagles0513875> neko: that driver is not completely downloaded .part means its only partially downloaded
[10:34] <neko> i know
[10:34] <neko> i downloading
[10:34] <neko> now
[10:34] <eagles0513875> ok lol
[10:34] <neko> but is it ?
[10:34] <eagles0513875> is what
[10:34] <neko> good driver for rage 128
[10:34] <eagles0513875> firstly r u running a 64bit system
[10:35] <eagles0513875> cuz the driver ur downloading is for 64bit systems
[10:35] <neko> O.O
[10:35] <pag> neko, you can install drivers from the repos.  And I think that open drivers have got pretty good suppord for that old cards
[10:35] <eagles0513875> x86_64 lol
[10:35] <eagles0513875> neko: look at the last part before run lol
[10:35] <neko> but opengl sux :/
[10:36] <eagles0513875> lol ur lucky u dont have to go through what i do to just get open gl enabled on this machine
[10:36] <pag> neko, what does " glxinfo | grep -i direct " return?
[10:37] <neko> w8
[10:37] <neko> glxinfo | grep -i direct
[10:37] <neko> ops
[10:37] <neko> direct rendering: No
[10:39] <ubuntu_> lol
[10:39] <ubuntu_> vm works
[10:39] <ubuntu_> <o/
[10:39] <eagles0513875> u havent installed the binary yet
[10:39] <pag> neko, you can try these instructiuons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:39] <neko> thx
[10:39] <eagles0513875> ubuntu_: u using vmware server
[10:39] <ubuntu_> nope
[10:39] <ubuntu_> workstation
[10:39] <ubuntu_> lol
[10:39] <eagles0513875> lol
[10:39] <eagles0513875> vmware for 64bit os's is pos
[10:39] <eagles0513875> im using virtual box instead
[10:40] <whippy> does somebody programm in kdevelop? GUI?
[10:40] <jussi01> i have used it before whippy
[10:41] <jussi01> its quite nice
[10:41] <whippy> jussi01, do you know how to make a simple GUI project
[10:41] <whippy> KDE helloworld...
[10:41] <whippy> i started with the project,
[10:41] <jussi01> no, Im sorry, I havent done gui's
[10:42] <neko> "System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager" and select "ATI accelerated graphics driver"
[10:42] <neko> im have kde :/
[10:43] <pag> neko, use edgy-instructions, they're pretty much DE-independed
[10:43] <neko> ok
[10:45] <neko> xorg-driver-fglrx jest ju w najnowszej wersji
[10:46] <pag> neko, so you have it already installed.. continue the tutorial :)
[10:46] <neko> :>
[10:49] <neko> neko@neko-desktop:~$ sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv
[10:49] <neko> Warning: Option 'VideoOverlay' doesn't affect running session.
[10:49] <neko> Warning: Option 'OpenGLOverlay' doesn't affect running session.
[10:49] <neko> Using /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:49] <neko> Saved back-up to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.fglrx-0
[10:49] <neko> what is it ?
[10:49] <pag> neko, now you should probably restart your X
[10:49] <neko> how ?
[10:49] <neko> Reset
[10:49] <pag> ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:51] <whippy> @pag,
[10:51] <pag> yup?
[10:51] <whippy> i heard about a solution for my problem, but need to install sys-devel/autoconf (2.13(2.1)
[10:51] <whippy> do you now, how to make this?
[10:51] <whippy> i tried with -> apt-get install autoconf
[10:51] <whippy> but that was the false version
[10:51] <whippy> i think
[10:52] <pag> whippy, sudo apt-get install autoconf2.13
[10:52] <pag> "autoconf2.13 - automatic configure script builder (obsolete version)"
[10:53] <whippy> thanks
[10:55] <whippy> @pag, could it be, that i have to restart ?
[10:55] <whippy> no or?
[10:55] <whippy> in linux everything is live...
[10:55] <pag> whippy, I have no idea, probably not. You may have to restart the programm though.
[10:56] <whippy> oke ;)
[10:57] <eagles0513875> whippy: its funny how restarting things fixes problems
[10:57] <moky> hello
[10:57] <moky> I've a problem with the internet connection of KGutsy Tribe2
[10:57] <moky> it only accepts eth2
[10:58] <moky> so I am unable to connect
[10:58] <pag> moky, help with Gutsy in #ubuntu+1
[10:58] <moky> ok thanks
[10:59] <moky> I did not knew this channel
[11:01] <netdaemon> is there an easy way to get those snowflakes out of the background of konqueror?
[11:01] <pag> Ray-, please, no np-scripts here-
[11:02] <Ray-> pag: was testing it, sorry
[11:02] <pag> netdaemon, View -> configure Background
[11:03] <netdaemon> ty
[11:03] <netdaemon> don't want to remove all the kubuntu modifications to kde >_>
[11:03] <netdaemon> lol
[11:07] <whippy> can me tell somebody what a "qry" is?
[11:08] <whippy> what does it mean in irc?
[11:08] <whippy> is this a private chat?
[11:08] <pag> whippy, query? pretty much the same as private-message
[11:08] <whippy> i see
[11:08] <whippy> so i can open a qry, whithout troubles?
[11:09] <pag> whippy, if you have an registred nickneame - yes.
[11:09] <vzduch> whippy: better ask the person in question if you may
[11:10] <Dutchman> Hello does anyone have a little knowladge of Using Ubuntu server 7.0.4 with an hyperthreading CPU ?
[11:10] <anryko> can i remove Konqueror, kate, kaffeine and all other useless things without removing kubuntu-desktop?
[11:11] <stdin> anryko: no
[11:11] <pag> anryko, kubuntu-desktop is in itself pretty useless ;)
[11:11] <meuhlol> anryko: nope
[11:11] <stdin> Dutchman: maybe ask in #ubuntu-server
[11:11] <Dutchman> thanks stdin
[11:12] <anryko> i wanna use kde, but i dont need all that staff... and my hda is only 20G... what can you sugest?
[11:12] <meuhlol> stdin: do you know how to make Loki installer to use mounted iso file please? I tryed mount iso in /media/cdrom0 but loki installer ask me to mount an cd :( How to mount my iso & let system think that is a cd-rom?
[11:12] <pag> anryko, you don't need kubuntu-desktop. Well, unless you want to upgrade from release to newer one
[11:13] <meuhlol> anryko: xfce
[11:13] <stdin> meuhlol: to the system there is no difference between a file and a disk, so it should work. it's the loki script that's not detecting it right, so you'll need to ask them about it
[11:13] <anryko> so i can remove kubuntu desktom, and still use kde?
[11:14] <whippy> @pag ;) someone told me now i would need automake 3.4.1
[11:14] <stdin> anryko: yeah
[11:14] <whippy> but i can't find it in the repo
[11:14] <stdin> anryko: it's only a meta-package
[11:14] <meuhlol> stdin: what way is to edit without corrupt script of loki?
[11:14] <whippy> is there a good site with .deb packages?
[11:14] <whippy> where to search
[11:14] <stdin> meuhlol: I don't know, I've never used it
[11:15] <meuhlol> anryko: xfce is not KDE but it's an nux sys for a low pc
[11:15] <pag> whippy, there's not much deb's on the net.. try to google for one :-/ Or just compile from the sources
[11:15] <meuhlol> stdin: oki thanks however :)
[11:16] <stdin> whippy: the latest automake is 1.10, there isn't a 3.4.1
[11:16] <jussi01> whippy: you could try getadeb
[11:17] <meuhlol> http://www.getdeb.net/
[11:17] <meuhlol> :)
[11:17] <jussi01> hmm, as ubotu is dead, anyone know the command for fixing adept?
[11:18] <pag> jussi01, udo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:18] <pag> sudo that is
[11:18] <jussi01> thanks pag
[11:18] <pag> https://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi? <3
[11:18] <jussi01> :)
[11:22] <netdaemon> is that a permifix for adept?
[11:22] <netdaemon> or is it just temporary
[11:22] <pag> netdaemon, well. adept souldn't lock up, so that fixes one lockup at the time
[11:23] <netdaemon> ah i see
[11:30] <neko> Help me ;/
[11:30] <pag> neko, what happened?
[11:30] <Ray-> pag: my ISP gave me a proxy to use so I can ftp to my website with high proirity, on XP I used FileZilla, but the filezilla installed in here can't use a proxy in the setting .. is there any ftp client you recommend to use with a proxy?
[11:30] <neko> x server not running ;/
[11:30] <pag> Ray-, I don't know, sorry
[11:31] <neko> im install kubuntu
[11:31] <pag> neko, edit xorg.conf and change Driver-section back to "ati" or "vesa"
[11:31] <neko> ok
[11:31] <pag> neko, no need for reinstall
[11:31] <whippy> pag, ;)
[11:31] <whippy> my helper ;)
[11:31] <whippy> (:
[11:31] <neko> how i can change it ?
[11:32] <neko> im now on Cd
[11:32] <whippy> how to install dpkg --install sourcename, and autoresolve dependencies?
[11:32] <whippy> ;)
[11:32] <pag> neko, please paste in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org output of the "mount"
[11:32] <stdin> whippy: use "sudo apt-get -f install" to resolve dependencies
[11:32] <neko> ok
[11:33] <neko> what is it ?
[11:33] <whippy> @stdin but i install via dpkg --install
[11:33] <stdin> whippy: and?
[11:33] <pag> neko, what exactly?
[11:33] <whippy> how do i this
[11:33] <stdin> whippy: like i said "sudo apt-get -f install" to resolve dependencies
[11:33] <whippy> i have kdevelop3.4.1.deb
[11:34] <stdin> whippy: apt is a frontend to dpkg
[11:34] <neko> mount ?
[11:34] <whippy> hmmm....
[11:34] <whippy> so first i type dpkg --install name
[11:34] <pag> whippy, sudo dpkg -i kdevelop*.deb && sudo apt-get install -f
[11:34] <whippy> than apt-get -f install
[11:34] <stdin> whippy: yeah
[11:34] <neko> Syntax
[11:34] <whippy> and than retry: dpkg --install name ? ;)
[11:34] <whippy> oke,thanks ;)
[11:34] <pag> neko, open konsole, type mouunt and paste output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:34] <neko> aaa
[11:34] <neko> ok
[11:34] <pag> mount that is
[11:35] <stdin> whippy: you don't need to do the dpkg --install again, it should be installed then
[11:35] <pag> whippy, you could also just right click on .deb and choose "istall" ;)
[11:35] <neko> mount: can't find http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[11:36] <pag> neko, heh.. just type mount
[11:36] <pag> then see what it outputs and copy the output in the pastebin
[11:37] <stdin> pag: right-clicking and choosing install wouldn't resolve deps tho
[11:37] <pag> stdin, oh... I forgot :)
[11:38] <xardias> hi. can anyone suggest me a tv card? i just need a working composite video-in in kubuntu. usb prefered.
[11:38] <whippy> @stdin...
[11:38] <whippy> i tried, but it does not work...
[11:38] <whippy> i did
[11:38] <neko> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on unionfs,
[11:38] <neko>        missing codepage or other error
[11:38] <neko>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[11:38] <neko>        dmesg | tail  or so
[11:38] <whippy> dpkg --install kdevelop341.deb
[11:38] <whippy> apt-get install -f
[11:38] <whippy> dpkg --install kdevelop341.deb
[11:39] <whippy> and he can't install it
[11:39] <stdin> whippy: post the output to pastebin
[11:39] <neko> im reinstall Os
[11:39] <pag> neko, do you know on which partition your / is?
[11:39] <neko> ?
[11:39] <pag> neko, like /dev/sda5 or something like that
[11:39] <stdin> try "sudo fdisk -l" and see
[11:40] <neko>  fdisk /dev/hda  (for the first IDE disk)
[11:41] <stdin> you don't need to put the device in, it should just list all devices (disks)
[11:41] <fatihciroglu> hi guys, i made this wallpaper for ubuntu + alizee ^^ http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/8643/fatihyp0.jpg
[11:42] <fatihciroglu> : )
[11:43] <stdin> fatihciroglu: 1) that should go in -offtopic, 2) nice work :) 3) maybe post it to http://www.kubuntu-art.org/ or http://www.kde-look.org/
[11:43] <dromer> hi all, I'm having trouble with the dhcp client: there keeps getting a 2nd client running when I boot which interferes with dhcp (and expires my lease), can someone help me turn this client off from boot?
[11:43] <whippy> @stdin....
[11:44] <whippy> im experimenting at the moment,
[11:44] <fatihciroglu> stdin: 1) sorry 2)thanks a lot 3) ok, i will try :)
[11:44] <whippy> i think... i got the problem, have to add a package manually,
[11:44] <whippy> it was written on the console i overread... :/
[11:44] <whippy> now it installs about 84mb seems to be fine...
[11:47] <tazz> can any one recommend a good ftp agent for kubuntu?
[11:48] <pag> tazz, afaik Konqueror can do ftp pretty good
[11:49] <gnomefreak> if i say gftp is taht bad ;)
[11:49] <gnomefreak> tazz: konqueror should be ok with it
[11:50] <fatihciroglu> stdin: cya boss
[11:50] <stdin> later
[11:52] <gnomefreak> tazz: have you tried kftpgrabber?
[11:52] <tazz> gnomefreak, pag how do i get konq to use a particular login id and password?
[11:53] <tazz> gnomefreak, nope i didnt try kftpgrabber.
[11:53] <gnomefreak> tazz: that i dont know i dont use it for ftp
[11:53] <gnomefreak> i use nautilus for ftp :)
[11:53] <stdin> tazz: like: ftp://username@host or ftp://username:password@host
[11:53] <tazz> ah! let me try that.
[11:54] <tazz> thanks stdin it worked! :-)
[11:54] <tazz> that should do for now.
[11:54] <dromer> anyone know how I can disable the 2nd dhclient from starting up on boot?
[11:57] <Fri> hi all, does anyone know a good Audio Sequencer like Logic Audio?
[11:59] <wappdev> Fri: Have a look at Ardour
[12:00] <Fri> Wappdev: Thx, I'll try it.
[12:12] <m4n> is there a package I have to install or a command to run to see my newly installed packages in the menu?
[12:13] <m4n> i just installed kdegames, but I do not see a menu item in KMenu?
[12:13] <whippy> hey ;) if somebody intereseted, i finished install kdevelop3.4.1 with .deb packages
[12:14] <whippy> i have my first kde sample application "hello world" ;) on kde
[12:14] <dromer> lol
[12:15] <stdin> m4n: try "kbuildsycoca"
[12:15] <m4n> stdin: let me check
[12:17] <meuhlol> stdin: re, do you know an editor for run files please?
[12:17] <Sutopo> hi
[12:17] <RivaeAerya> Is it possible to make websites use gray instead of white, and the link colors another one?
[12:18] <Sutopo> i got this problem --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29202/
[12:18] <RivaeAerya> on all websites?
[12:18] <RivaeAerya> In Konqueror, i mean
[12:18] <Sutopo> how to solve it?
[12:18] <m4n> Sutopo: you need the devel packages
[12:18] <stdin> meuhlol: .run files are text scripts with an archive in them, so the 1st bit is text but there is an archive encoded after
[12:18] <Sutopo> m4n: devel paackge?
[12:19] <Sutopo> m4n: where to get it?
[12:19] <m4n> libssl-dev try that
[12:19] <Sutopo> ok
[12:20] <anryko> pag: thenx for your advice
[12:20] <dromer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29204/  << the 2nd dhcp sometimes starts up mysteriously, I'd like to shut it off, anybody know how to do this?
[12:20] <stdin> Sutopo: install libssl-dev
[12:20] <pag> anryko, np :)
[12:20] <RivaeAerya> anyone know?
[12:21] <madeofcandy> argh im a pirate
[12:22] <dromer> argh I dont know how to turn of this dhclient3
[12:22] <madeofcandy> argh im still a pirate
[12:23] <meuhlol> stdin: but with what i need to edit them?
[12:23] <madeofcandy> and a mighty scurvy one at that
[12:23] <stdin> meuhlol: a text editor to edit the script part, other than that I don't know
[12:23] <Sutopo> i already install openvpn using apt-get network-manager-openvpn
[12:24] <Sutopo> but could't find the conf file
[12:24] <m4n> Sutopo: dpkg -L package will list the files in that
[12:24] <stdin> Sutopo: you configure it in knetworkmanager
[12:26] <m4n> stdin: thanks, i guess it did the trick :)
[12:27] <meuhlol> stdin: exactly i can edit with kate for exemple, but saving it can make a corrupted file, cuz it's binary
[12:27] <meuhlol> i know one think: it's compiled with "makeself"
[12:33] <whippy> how is the offtopic channel of kubuntu called?
[12:33] <pag> #kubuntu-offtopic
[12:33] <pag> whippy, but #ubuntu-offtopic is larger and far more active
[12:33] <fritz> can any1 tell me where 2 find amule servers?
[12:34] <fritz> cause it won't load any servers from it's default list
[12:34] <meuhlol> fritz: hi wait
[12:35] <fritz> meuhlol
[12:35] <whippy> thanks
[12:36] <fritz> can't find the url to paste in that field ....
[12:37] <meuhlol> fritz: take server.met file from emule :)
[12:37] <meuhlol> it's the same
[12:38] <fritz> where can i get it from?
[12:39] <meuhlol> Razorback2 server: 195.245.244.243:4661
[12:40] <meuhlol> fritz: http://ocbmaurice.dyndns.org/pl/slist.pl/server.met?download/server-max.met
[12:41] <meuhlol> amule is just a client for GNU/Linux system, but servers are the same as eMule for windows, so look for servers from emule
[12:42] <fritz> thnx meuhlol
[12:43] <meuhlol> fritz: you're welcome :)
[12:44] <Daisuke-Ido> people still use emule?
[12:44] <meuhlol> Daisuke-Ido: not me :) torrent & usenet :p
[12:44] <Daisuke-Ido> amen
[12:44] <Daisuke-Ido> to both
[12:44] <fritz> is usenet free meuhlol?
[12:44] <meuhlol> lol
[12:44] <meuhlol> fritz: no :)
[12:44] <Daisuke-Ido> yes or no
[12:45] <Daisuke-Ido> but you get what you pay for
[12:45] <meuhlol> just some refferers are free
[12:45] <fritz> so you pay 4 downloads ? ^.^
[12:45] <Daisuke-Ido> mine's free
[12:45] <Daisuke-Ido> verizon's got a halfway decent usenet server
[12:45] <meuhlol> Daisuke-Ido: i have an free acces with my ISP, but it's limited in bandwich by week & many times nzb are not complete
[12:45] <Daisuke-Ido> but if you want ultra quality, you have to pay
[12:45] <meuhlol> i prefer giganews
[12:46] <Daisuke-Ido> meuhlol: like i said, it's pretty nice here, but giga > *
[12:46] <Daisuke-Ido> $25 a month for unlimited
[12:46] <meuhlol> fritz: yes, but 700mb in 10 minuts on your hard drive it's great ;)
[12:47] <meuhlol> giganews france make an great offer for 19?
[12:47] <fritz> meuhlol. i downloaded the list.met
[12:47] <fritz> now where do i put it?
[12:47] <meuhlol> unlimited and secured connexions (anonymous too) ;)
[12:47] <Daisuke-Ido> 19 euro?
[12:47] <meuhlol> fritz: you have normally an text input with something like: add server, put .met file url into ats all normally :)
[12:48] <meuhlol> es
[12:48] <meuhlol> yes
[12:50] <meuhlol> huh sorry 20dollars :s
[12:50] <fritz> um...went 2 site and downloaded a servers.met file...
[12:50] <meuhlol> 19.99$
[12:50] <fritz> i don;t have an url:-/
[12:50] <Daisuke-Ido> actually, that's about right, right around $27
[12:50] <meuhlol> fritz: put http://ocbmaurice.dyndns.org/pl/slist.pl/server.met?download/server-max.met in "add server" text input
[12:50] <meuhlol> Daisuke-Ido: https://fr.giganews.com/signup/?account=PERS-DIA-MO::1 special offer: 20 simultaneous connexions! + SSL and more :)
[12:50] <meuhlol> fritz: you work or not?
[12:51] <fritz> i don't think i'm doing it right..
[12:52] <meuhlol> fritz: cuz it's better to use usenet ;) for 20$ you have an unlimited downloads with a really great speed (you can use all force of your download) if your max DL is 2MB/Sec so you will have it :)
[12:52] <fritz> yey
[12:52] <fritz> it worked, i just didn't push the "download list " button i'm affraid :">
[12:53] <meuhlol> lol
[12:53] <meuhlol> ops please kick that as*h*** of botter :'(
[12:53] <fritz> yey, another window feature overtaken ^.^
[12:54] <meuhlol> =)
[12:54] <fritz> thnx again meuhlol
[12:54] <meuhlol> fritz: you are always welcome :)
[12:55] <meuhlol> fritz: but why you use mule systems? it's too slow! :S
[12:57] <fritz> well it works ok 4 me and you can find rare stuff on them...
[12:57] <fritz> meuhlol
[12:57] <meuhlol> fritz: i found 99
[12:57] <meuhlol> 9% of what i want at torrents :)
[12:57] <neko> :>
[12:57] <meuhlol> 99.9% *
[12:57] <meuhlol> most at torrentreactor.net
[12:58] <meuhlol> and http://torrents.ru/
[12:58] <meuhlol> xD
[01:02] <PetPow> hi
[01:02] <PetPow> i have a live cd - where on the cd is the OS located?
[01:02] <PetPow> i dont want to boot from it
[01:02] <PetPow> i want to copy the files off onto my computer :p
[01:02] <meuhlol> PetPow: you want install?
[01:02] <PetPow> no
 i want to copy the files off onto my computer :p
[01:03] <meuhlol> PetPow: os is all CD dude
[01:03] <PetPow> so if im making an iso
[01:03] <PetPow> i stick everything in?
[01:03] <PetPow> even all the windoze stuff?
[01:03] <meuhlol> PetPow: it's work like that: you run LiveCD you can test (many times is as) if want install you have an icone at LiveCD Desktop named "Install"
[01:04] <meuhlol> huh
[01:04] <meuhlol> you mean LiveCD of linux or an Live of windows? you know... windows also exists in LiveCD :)
[01:04] <PetPow> i was recommended if i want to run kubuntu in vmware faster i make an .iso of my cd
[01:04] <PetPow> its a cd i got from ship it
[01:05] <meuhlol> it's an CD of linux, you can run it as LiveCD or Install it, it's your own choice, and infact it doesn't concerns windows at all
[01:06] <PetPow> it has a load of windows stuff on it - says "OpenCD" on the icon
[01:06] <meuhlol> PetPow: and if you want an faster LiveCD, for a speed, the best is Knoppix, but in install mode Knoppix sux... so for install is better (K)ubuntu, for LiveCD Knoppix
[01:07] <PetPow> i *dont want to install*
[01:07] <meuhlol> when you open what you see?
[01:07] <PetPow> i want to make an .iso of it so i can run it in vmware
[01:07] <fritz> meuhlol...how do you run a kill command in konsole?
[01:08] <tibo> ya des francais ici?
[01:08] <meuhlol> fritz:  you are in console?
[01:09] <meuhlol> tibo oui
[01:09] <meuhlol> tibo: mais le chan francais est #kubuntu-fr
[01:09] <tibo> ok ok jai du mal avec linux...ok ok dsl
[01:09] <meuhlol> PetPow: make an iso and try :)
[01:10] <fritz> frostwire jammed and i want to terminate it
[01:11] <meuhlol> fritz: you need to know PID of processus
[01:12] <fritz> :-/
[01:12] <meuhlol> tape that fritz: kill -l
[01:12] <meuhlol> after : kill <PID>
[01:12] <meuhlol> ops wait
[01:13] <fritz> not good:P
[01:14] <stdin> fritz: try "ps aux| grep frostwire" to try and find the pid
[01:15] <fritz> it didn't show any pid:-/
[01:15] <meuhlol> fritz: kill -9 -1 (kill al processus that you can kill) xD
[01:15] <stdin> that would also log you out (forceably)
[01:15] <MaTiAz> !ntfs-3g
[01:15] <MaTiAz> Hmm
[01:15] <MaTiAz> oh, ubotu's gone :D
[01:16] <fritz> um....don't want to shut down everything, just frostwire
[01:16] <stdin> fritz: I think frostwire is a java app, so try "ps aux|grep java"
[01:16] <fritz> i take it there's no end task command here:P
[01:16] <PetPow> lol
[01:17] <stdin> fritz: can you still see the GUI?
[01:17] <meuhlol> i suppose in console mode you can't do CTRL+ESCAPE ? xD
[01:19] <fritz> i hit ctrl escape
[01:19] <fritz> and did the kill frostwire
[01:19] <fritz> but it didn;t close...
[01:19] <stdin> use xkill to close it, run the command "xkill" and click on the window
[01:20] <meuhlol> fritz: ctrl + escape then look PID of frost
[01:21] <meuhlol> after ctrl + alt + f1 and kill -9 -<pid>
[01:21] <stdin> why would you need to switch to tty1 to kill it?
[01:23] <meuhlol> not need but i have some manners, dunno why
[01:24] <MaTiAz> Hey, if I don't want to mount certain NTFS partitions in read-write mode, I just replace the ntfs-3g option in /etc/fstab with the regular ntfs?
[01:25] <stdin> MaTiAz: you mean read-only?
[01:25] <MaTiAz> yeah
[01:25] <stdin> MaTiAz: you can just replace ntfs-3g with ntfs, or just add "ro" to the options
[01:26] <MaTiAz> stdin: ok, thanks :)
[01:26] <Ryaren> How can I change TwinView metamodes without Xrestar???
[01:27] <meuhlol> Ryaren: think can just "live" test at grub boot, no?
[01:27] <Ryaren> what?
[01:27] <Ryaren> i don't unerstand u
[01:29] <meuhlol> when you boot, in grub menu press "e" you can edit boot options without save it
[01:29] <Ryaren> boot options?
[01:29] <meuhlol> yep
[01:30] <meuhlol> you use Grub i think? not lilo?
[01:30] <Ryaren> I want to change or stop TwinView without X restart
[01:30] <meuhlol> oh sorry
[01:30] <Ryaren> :)
[01:30] <Ryaren> maybe u misunerstood me :)
[01:30] <meuhlol> it wasn't for you, excuse me, just "bad reading" :)
[01:30] <Ryaren> and do u know how can i do it?
[01:33] <meuhlol> nop, never has dual screen (just one time at windows xD when composing music)
[01:41] <gabris> dfyh
[01:41] <meuhlol> gabris: oO
[02:02] <gabii> hello
[02:18] <danix> hola
[02:21] <cjsstables> Need a little help.  running kubuntu 7.04.  Can't get graphics extended to 1920x1200.  Have a dell 2405 FPW capable of 1920x1200 and a Intel 950GM graphics card.  any help here
[02:22] <Daisuke-Ido> time to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, sounds like
[02:24] <cjsstables> did that already.  does not show my grhaphics card in list.  have selected i810 and vesa both for driver and configured custom monitor with settings. still no luck
[02:25] <zander_> hi @all
[02:25] <cjsstables> does anyone know how I get the latest xorg server installed on my box?
[02:44] <naught101> does anyone know how I can remove the kubuntu "power manager" from the system tray permanently?
[02:44] <naught101> I want to replace it with kpowersave
[02:46] <gabii> hello, i just installled kubuntu fiesty, i'm a noob. need a little help
[02:47] <gabii> hello, i just installled kubuntu fiesty, i'm a noob. need a little help
[02:47] <naught101> just ask your question
[02:49] <gabii> i can't seem to get my usb hdd to work
[02:51] <zander_> hey wich instant mager should i use for icq?
[02:52] <zander_> *manager
[02:52] <naught101> zander_: pidgin/gaim works for me
[02:53] <zander_> ok thx
[02:53] <zander_> i search for a download^^
[02:53] <pag> zander_, sudo apt-get install theNameOfTheProgramm
[02:53] <SlimeyPete> zander_: it's available via Adept
[02:53] <SlimeyPete> zander_: don't search the web for a download. Always install via Adept if possible.
[02:56] <zander_> ok
[03:01] <sito> hellow
[03:01] <sito> i can put compiz fusion with the command compiz --replace
[03:02] <sito> but, for put the desktop without compiz?
[03:02] <sito> what is the command?
[03:02] <gabii> i have a ntfs formatted usb hddand i can't open it
[03:03] <brokenthorn> I can't wait for KDE4 and Plasma
[03:06] <naught101> gabii: create a directory somewhere, then run "mount /dev/sdxX -t ntfs /your/dir", where /dev/sdxX is you HDD's device (ie. /dev/sdb1)
[03:07] <naught101> actually, you probably should type "mount -t ntfs /dev/sdxX /your/dir"
[03:09] <gabii> ok thnx
[03:11] <Silent_G> hello
[03:11] <neko__> hi
[03:11] <zander_> hi
[03:11] <Silent_G> kubuntu is giving me this error, configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[03:11] <Silent_G> can somebody tell me why? O_o
[03:11] <Fri> gabii just download Automatix and tick on the NTFS read/write plugin it just works fine. At least in my system.. I can even write on my NTFS disk
[03:11] <neko__> u must install
[03:11] <neko__> compilator
[03:11] <Silent_G> compilator :O
[03:12] <neko__> g++ and c++
[03:12] <neko__> add/delete programs
[03:12] <neko__> search
[03:12] <Ryaren> hi
[03:12] <gabii> fri: how do i download and install automatix?
[03:12] <Ryaren> Does sby know how can i disable TwinView without X restart?
[03:13] <Fri> gabii: give me a sec
[03:13] <gabii> thanx
[03:13] <meuhlol> Silent_G: when it show this error?
[03:13] <neko__> how i can check fglx
[03:13] <neko__> ?
[03:13] <Silent_G> when i tried to ./configure in cedega
[03:14] <gabii> i was reading the restricted formatsthat i canplay in ubuntu, which one should i install so i can play divx/xvid/matroska?
[03:14] <Silent_G> so i just need to install g++
[03:14] <Silent_G> ?
[03:16] <Fri> Gabii: on http://www.getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Installation you'll find all the instructions you need. It's very simple.
[03:17] <gabii> thanx fri:
[03:18] <Fri> gabii: you have to take step by step. Just open a terminal window and copy step 1 echo "deb http://www.getautomatix.com/apt feisty main" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list into it
[03:18] <Fri> step 2 wget http://www.getautomatix.com/keys/automatix2.key
[03:19] <Fri> sorry again step 1 echo "deb http://www.getautomatix.com/apt feisty main" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:19] <gabii> fri: thanx
[03:19] <Fri> step 2 wget http://www.getautomatix.com/keys/automatix2.key
[03:19] <Fri> step 3 gpg --import automatix2.key
[03:20] <Fri> step 4 gpg --export --armor E23C5FC3 | sudo apt-key add -
[03:20] <Fri> step 5 sudo apt-get update
[03:20] <Fri> step 6 sudo apt-get install automatix2
[03:21] <Fri> gabii: Automatix includes a couple of media player and codecs and windows TTF
[03:21] <Fri> is'T quite usefull
[03:21] <gabii> thanx
[03:21] <Fri> gabii: you're welcome
[03:23] <Silent_G> can someone tell me which driver is best to use for ATI radeon card? ATI or Radeon driver?
[03:25] <unknown_777> hello excuse me how can I update my just installed kubutu?
[03:26] <unknown_777> hello excuse me how can I update my just installed kubuntu?
[03:27] <unknown_777> found
[03:27] <gabii> fri: i was reading the restricted formatsthat i canplay in ubuntu, which one should i install so i can play divx/xvid/matroska?
[03:29] <Fri> gabii: as soon as you've installed Automatix just install all codec's. I can read anything DIVX, XVID, AVI, MPG, WMV
[03:31] <spartako> hi
[03:31] <gabii> how about matroska?
[03:34] <Milux> how i can install amarok 1.4.6 on ubuntu feisty? there are any reposities?
[03:34] <Fri> gabii: sorry I'm not sure but I believe it should work to. Just try you can always uninstall the codecs you don't want
[03:34] <gabii> fri: i installed italready but i can'tseem to find it
[03:36] <Fri> gabii: if you open Automatix you should find the codec on the left site second from above
[03:36] <gabii> i can't open automatix.. i cna't seem to find where it is
[03:37] <Fri> did you take all six steps in order?
[03:37] <crdlb> Fri, don't recommend automatix please
[03:37] <gabii> yes
[03:37] <Fri> that strange
[03:37] <Fri> what is the error message
[03:37] <Ryaren> What log is consist of the infos about restarting and shutting down?
[03:38] <gabii> no error. i can't seem to find where it is so i can'topen it
[03:39] <Ryaren> Which log contains the infos about restarting and shutting down?
[03:39] <crdlb> gabii, you really don't want to
[03:39] <dromer> is there any good linux software for pda's ?
[03:39] <crdlb> there's nothing that you can't install without it
[03:39] <gabii> ok..
[03:41] <Ryaren> sby know the answer of my question?
[03:43] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[03:43] <Ryaren> Which log contains the infos about restarting and shutting down?
[03:45] <BluesKaj> my little luv affair with VMware server is over , it doesn't do what i want it to do so i'd like to uninstall it , but that isn't so easily done in the pkg managers. I've searched the forums , but I haven't found any cmnds or tutorials that work ...any suggestions ?
[03:55] <CaBlGuY> !frostwire
[03:55] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[04:01] <zander_> wich software i need to install for working with java on kubuntu
[04:01] <Ryaren> Which log contains the infos about restarting and shutting down?
[04:01] <zander_> compiler an things like that
[04:06] <iarwain_> hiya, anyone know why i am getting a mount error (Mounting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed: no such file or directory) with this guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootToRAM ?
[04:12] <joakim> Hi! Im having trouble extracting a .7z file. When trying to extract with Archive Manager it says "Archive type not supported"
[04:12] <joakim> Is there a better tool for extracting .7z files or is it possible that my file is damaged?
[04:14] <joakim> Am I asking in the wrong place?
[04:17] <zander_> dunno cant help you here because iam new to kubuntu
[04:17] <zander_> and want to learn some thing^^
[04:18] <aaroncampbell> Does anyone else have a problem with firefox not opening mailto: links?  It doesn't seem to trigger Thunderbird at all.
[04:19] <kamagatos> is there someone here who speaking english?
[04:19] <aaroncampbell> murak: I don't think anything on kubuntu supports a 7 zip file by default
[04:19] <kamagatos> who speak french?
[04:19] <BluesKaj> aaroncampbell, systemsettings/default applications
[04:19] <aaroncampbell> kamagatos: #kubuntu-fr
[04:19] <kamagatos> ok thank
[04:20] <tapanim> how remove folders which doesn't have size and owner?
[04:21] <aaroncampbell> BluesKaj: looks like Email Client is set to "Use a different email client:"  and has "mozilla-thunderbird" in the box
[04:21] <kamagatos> log as root
[04:21] <Ryaren> re
[04:21] <kamagatos> put something in and remove
[04:21] <tapanim> kamagatos: but that folder really doesn't exist...
[04:22] <tapanim> is there but isn't there
[04:22] <Ryaren> so Which log file contains the infos about restarting and shutting down? Because my system is freezing when I want to restart or shut down my computer...
[04:22] <dromer> hmm:  A previous installation of a VMware product has been detected.  << I already ran  vmware-uninstall.pl  but it didn't work, apperantly I have to purge the entire install, how do I do this?
[04:22] <BluesKaj> aaroncampbell, copy and paste this into the box' thunderbird %u '
[04:23] <BluesKaj> dromer , heh , I'm looking to do the same thing ...difficult to find an uninstall procedure for vmware server
[04:23] <tapanim> and when trying to remove gives "rm: cannot remove `Season 2': Input/output error"
[04:24] <dromer> beh, I tried to install vmware-product via different methods .. all failed and now I can't try anything else :S
[04:25] <zander_> now can anyone say wich software i should install for working with java
[04:26] <icecruncher> zander_ : eclipse?
[04:26] <BluesKaj> dromer, di you try 'sudo vmware-uninstall.pl'  ?
[04:26] <aaroncampbell> BluesKaj: still nothing.  However, thunderbird from the command line gives nothing.  I wonder if it's supposed to be mozilla-thunderbird %u
[04:26] <BluesKaj> no aaroncampbell , just thunderbird
[04:27] <aaroncampbell> BluesKaj: that didn't work
[04:27] <dromer> BluesKaj: tried it, now uninstalling everything with vmware in it in synaptic
[04:27] <dromer> BluesKaj: doing complete removal on those packages anyway ..
[04:27] <BluesKaj> how did yo install thunderbird aaroncampbell
[04:27] <icecruncher> BluesKaj: the package is mozilla thunderbird
[04:27] <aaroncampbell> adept
[04:27] <zander_> ok i will install eclipse
[04:28] <zander_> anything else?
[04:28] <BluesKaj> yeah dromer , it worked for me too
[04:28] <aaroncampbell> unless it was installed by default with Kubuntu Feisty, in which case...not at all
[04:28] <BluesKaj> aaroncampbell, no it isn't installed by default by feisty
[04:29] <aaroncampbell> BluesKaj:  then I used adept.  I've only installed opera and VMware outside of adept.
[04:30] <Ryaren> How can i shutdown my computer to see why freezes it?
[04:31] <BluesKaj> aaroncampbell, I think installing the tat.gz version does a global install and automatically will run as default in system settings when it chosen.
[04:31] <BluesKaj> tar.gz
[04:32] <aaroncampbell> BluesKaj: looks like it must be a firefox issue...
[04:32] <BluesKaj> wait a sec aaroncampbell ...lemme check something
[04:32] <aaroncampbell> BluesKaj: I set the default back to mozilla-thunderbird (what the executable is on my machine), and it works from Konqueror, but not forefox
[04:35] <dromer> BluesKaj: it didn't for me :(
[04:38] <BluesKaj> aaroncampbell, so obviously you have FF as your default browser in system settings as well
[04:38] <aaroncampbell> BluesKaj: yes
[04:44] <zander_> hey cant install eclipse
[04:44] <zander_> cant downlaod it from the website
[04:44] <SlimeyPete> zander_: you can install it from Adept
[04:44] <zander_> tried it
[04:44] <BluesKaj> aaroncampbell, I hate to ask the obvious question, but have you set thunderbird as the default client in thunderbird/edit/preferences
[04:45] <zander_> but it says it cant fiend it
[04:45] <SlimeyPete> have you updated your package list recently?
[04:45] <zander_> how?
[04:45] <spawn57> run adept
[04:46] <SlimeyPete> zander_: run adept, click Fetch Updates
[04:46] <aaroncampbell> BluesKaj: I don't even see a "make this default client" option in there
[04:47] <BluesKaj> which version aaroncampbell ?
[04:47] <zander_> ok updating^^
[04:48] <aaroncampbell> 1.5.0.12
[04:49] <aaroncampbell> BluesKaj: but, if Thunderbird isn't set up properly, why do mailto links work in Konqueror?
[04:49] <BluesKaj> zander_, SlimeyPete,  it's in the deb http://archive.clemsonlinux.org/ feisty main restricted repository
[04:49] <BluesKaj> aaroncampbell, good question, I dunno :(
[04:50] <BluesKaj> aaroncampbell, I'm using the newest version , try installing it , it has the default option
[04:51] <BluesKaj> version 2.0.0.4
[04:51] <aaroncampbell> BluesKaj: nope...I'll stick with what adept gives me, and wait for someone who knows what's wrong...installing outside the package manager makes things hard in the future (learned the hard way)
[04:51] <aaroncampbell> Thanks for all your help though
[04:52] <aaroncampbell> BluesKaj: Actually, I just got it working.  I just manually defined the mailto app ala http://kb.mozillazine.org/Register_protocol
[04:52] <BluesKaj> bummer ...but I do understand your reluctance , aaroncampbell ... will have to wait for the heavy hitters to show up. They'll know what to do I'm sure :)
[04:54] <zander_> downloaded eclipse how to install it now it is an .gz package
[04:54] <SlimeyPete> zander_: ick. Didn't adept work?
[04:54] <Silent_G> please somebody is available to help me ? iv been asking from yesterday seems like nobody have a solution for my problem but at least somebody can say if there's a solution or not? O_O
[04:54] <SlimeyPete> .gz packages are a last resort
[04:54] <BluesKaj> aaroncampbell, cool , glad you got it working :)
[04:54] <hatredx> for christ sakes, ask the damn question
[04:55] <SlimeyPete> Silent_G: what problem?
[04:55] <zander_> how to say adept is installing some other packages
[04:55] <Silent_G> SlimeyPete, iv got an ATI Radeon card, 7000 (at least what lspci says) iv got Direct Rendering working but no hope  for 3D accelaration... and i want 3D accelaration
[04:56] <stdin> zander_: .gz files are "gzipped", like .zip. use Ark to open/extract it
[04:56] <Silent_G> also there are some weard errors in Xorg.0.log so if you want i can paste it to ya
[04:56] <stdin> zander_: then read the README file
[04:57] <zander_> ok i do it
[04:57] <hatredx> no ati exp here
[04:57] <stdin> Silent_G: do you have fglrx?
[04:57] <SlimeyPete> Silent_G: fglrx driver?
[04:57] <SlimeyPete> heh, snap
[04:57] <BluesKaj> Silent_G, pastebin your  /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[04:57] <Silent_G> fglrx doesnt work good
[04:57] <Silent_G> it just crashes everything
[04:57] <Silent_G> it crashed my pc
[04:57] <stdin> Silent_G: no fglrx, no 3D
[04:57] <Silent_G> also im using open source driver
[04:58] <stdin> Silent_G: blame ATI for making horrible drivers
[04:58] <Silent_G> im not using ATI drivers stdin
[04:58] <SlimeyPete> the OSS drivers don't do 3D very well
[04:58] <Silent_G> im using kubuntu's open source drivers
[04:58] <stdin> Silent_G: yes, you said it didn't work
[04:58] <stdin> Silent_G: but you need the ati drivers for 3D
[04:58] <BluesKaj> Silent_G, try this tutorial , it works on most ati cards : http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty
[04:58] <Silent_G> and iv read that with open source driver fglrx is not supported right?
[04:58] <crazybus> I've converted a bunch of files from ogg vorbis to speex.  Unfortunatly the meta-info didn't transfer over.  Is there a program that can quickly move the meta info on a lot of files at once?
[04:59] <SlimeyPete> Silent_G: you won't get good 3D acceleration without fglrx. If fglrxwon't work, you're stuffed. Email ATI and berate them for making drivers which don't work ;)
[04:59] <Silent_G> BluesKaj, , on ati.com there isnt a driver for my card, there is for 7200 but not for 7000
[04:59] <zander_> Installing the plugin tar.gz using Install script:
[04:59] <zander_>    o Unpack the tar.gz file
[04:59] <zander_>    o In terminal, navigate to the unpacked directory and enter:
[04:59] <zander_>           + $ ./flashplayer-installer
[04:59] <zander_>           + Click Enter key and follow prompts
[04:59] <zander_> how to do that
[04:59] <BluesKaj> SlimeyPete, that kind of comment isn't going to help him
[04:59] <stdin> zander_: install the package in adept!
[05:00] <SlimeyPete> BluesKaj: erm, no kind of comment will help. If fglrx won't work then he won't get proper 3D.
[05:00] <stdin> BluesKaj: but is true (in this case)
[05:00] <zander_> there are more then 4k packages now xD
[05:00] <BluesKaj> Silent_G, just try the tutorial i just posted , it might work ...it works for my 200g
[05:00] <stdin> zander_: the flash player one you want is called "flashplugin-nonfree"
[05:00] <Silent_G> ok BluesKaj  i'll try
[05:01] <Silent_G> can i paste my Xorg.0.log so somebody can read it and explain the errors im getting in it?
[05:01] <von> hello
[05:01] <stdin> Silent_G: post to pastebin and we'll look
[05:01] <Silent_G> ok thankz
[05:02] <von> Someone does know how to close the port 3000 (ppp)?
[05:02] <von> I've already try apt-get remove ppp
[05:02] <SlimeyPete> von: use iptables (hard) or guarddog (easy, so I hear)
[05:03] <Novell> von: check what process is using it
[05:03] <stdin> von: something like "sudo /etc/init.d/ppp stop"
[05:03] <SlimeyPete> basically,you need to set up a firewall if you want to close the port
[05:03] <tapanim> how remove folders which doesn't have size and owner? and when trying to remove gives rm: cannot remove `Season 2': Input/output error
[05:03] <stdin> von: the name "ppp" may be different
[05:03] <stdin> tapanim: what filesystem?
[05:03] <Silent_G> here is my Xorg.0.log stdin  and BluesKaj  , it complains about some 3D modes and some AGP things
[05:04] <tapanim> vfat, it's usb hard disk
[05:04] <Novell> von: lsof -i TCP
[05:04] <von> ok, i'll try
[05:05] <tapanim> stdin: vfat, it's usb hard disk
[05:05] <stdin> tapanim: try unmounting it and remounting it, it shouldn't have no owner/size, if it still does then it's a filesystem error and you'll need to run fsck on it
[05:05] <von> Novell: Thanx for the lsof -i TCP. It's what I need
[05:05] <stdin> Silent_G: you need to post the URL
[05:05] <Silent_G> oh
[05:05] <Silent_G> sorry
[05:05] <Silent_G> i didnt pressed the buttons good :p
[05:06] <Silent_G> http://rafb.net/p/MS6Gp369.html
[05:06] <tapanim> stdin: i tried to unmount and mount again, it didn't help, trying next with fsck
[05:08] <tapanim> stdin: how should i do it because it gives that warning that should not do for mounted filesystem?
[05:08] <stdin> Silent_G: that's because you are using the "radion" driver, which is the open source driver. 3D won't work with it, only the fglrx driver
[05:09] <Silent_G> ok
[05:09] <Silent_G> well
[05:09] <Silent_G> i'll try BluesKaj 's tutrial
[05:09] <stdin> tapanim: you need to unmount it first, run "mount" to see where it's mounted and then "umount /media/USB" (where /media/USB is the place it's mounted)
[05:11] <BluesKaj> yes, i see no fglrx driver ...the one in the tutorial is modded and patched and works well on older and onboard type cards
[05:12] <tapanim> it's busy? but only irssi is running
[05:12] <stdin> tapanim: make sure you don't have any konqueror windows open
[05:12] <SlimeyPete> type "lsof /media/USB" (again, /media/USB is the mountpoint)
[05:12] <SlimeyPete> tapanim: ^^
[05:12] <SlimeyPete> that will show you which processes are uing it
[05:12] <SlimeyPete> *using
[05:13] <stdin> (probably konqueror in  preloaded mode)
[05:13] <tapanim> je
[05:14] <tapanim> and then run fsck? still same warning?
[05:15] <stdin> no, close/kill the process that's using the disk, then unmount, then fsck
[05:18] <tapanim> never done this before...
[05:19] <tapanim> i really doesn't understand what doing....
[05:19] <von> Beginner question: How to list installed packages?
[05:20] <stdin> von: all of them?
[05:20] <von> yes
[05:20] <stdin> von: dpkg -l
[05:20] <von> stdin: Thanks a lot
[05:21] <tapanim> stdin: how it understand my disk? fsck /dev/sdb1?
[05:22] <stdin> tapanim: yeah, but use sudo fsck /dev/sdb1
[05:22] <stdin> tapanim: it should check the partition, and tell you if it finds errors
[05:23] <tapanim> i just started and differences between boot sector and it's backup
[05:23] <tapanim> what should i do?
[05:24] <stdin> what options does it give?
[05:24] <tapanim> copy original, copu backup or do nothing
[05:25] <stdin> do you boot off the disk?
[05:25] <tapanim> no
[05:25] <stdin> then choose "copy original"
[05:26] <tapanim> FATs differ but appear to be intact. choose first or second FAT to use
[05:26] <stdin> I'd say to just pick one
[05:26] <tapanim> ok
[05:31] <tapanim> shit
[05:31] <tapanim> everything is now read-only filesystem
[05:32] <tapanim> i can't do anymore anything, because i can't write anywhere
[05:33] <stoned> yeh life sucks
[05:33] <tapanim> stdin: what now?
[05:37] <dr_willis> !iso
[05:37] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[05:48] <tatters> does anyone know of a program wich can record and replay mouse events but not xmacro
[05:48] <dr_willis> !find record
[05:48] <ubotu> Found: cdrecord, libxcb-record0, libxcb-record0-dbg, libxcb-record0-dev, x11proto-record-dev (and 14 others)
[05:49] <dr_willis> Hmm...
[05:49] <dr_willis> !find xmacro
[05:49] <ubotu> Found: xmacro
[05:49] <dr_willis> none related.. Bummer.
[05:49] <dr_willis> !find macro
[05:49] <ubotu> Found: libapache2-mod-macro, xutils-dev, xmacro
[05:49] <tatters> xmacro seems to be geared towards remote rather than local desktop
[05:50] <progreSS> hi all
[05:50] <progreSS> damn
[05:50] <tatters> I used ghost mouse on windows I cannot find similer for linux
[05:51] <SlimeyPete> what does it do?
[05:51] <tatters> recored/replay mouse events
[05:52] <SlimeyPete> oh right. I don't know of anything like that for Linux.
[05:52] <Novell> we usually do automation with scripts ;)
[05:54] <tatters> hmm its a flash web page I need to automate a cpl of button presses and make it run every 5 seconds
[05:54] <tatters> how the heck do I go about scripting that
[05:54] <BluesKaj> don't you have to do that within flash ?
[05:55] <tatters> its not my web site or flash
[05:56] <walter_> hola buenas
[05:56] <walter_> alguien sabe donde puedo aprender los comandos de linux
[05:57] <walter_> ya que los manuales que lei son muy basicos
[05:57] <BluesKaj> !es | walter_
[05:57] <ubotu> walter_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:57] <walter_> gracias
[05:59] <tatters> there is a 500 prize for anyone that plays the most games within a 24 hour period ,therefore it is impossible to lose if I play every game that is available for the 24 hrs the contest runs and my box dont crash
[05:59] <tatters> hence the need to automate a cpl of button presses on web page
[06:00] <akrus> hello, could someone tell me if it's possible to input special symbols from keyboard like it's ALT+0153 for (tm) in windows?
[06:00] <tatters> yah windows can do special characters
[06:01] <akrus> tatters: what about linux? :P
[06:02] <tatters> of course, but dont ask me how :)
[06:02] <tatters> <---noobunty
[06:04] <tatters> omg just got used to running ubuntu after a weeks sweat pain and tears and for the sake of a simple task I gotta reinstall windows ..
[06:05] <nuxil> http://www.pugetsystems.com/submerged.php
[06:06] <Novell> akrus: if I can't do it with alt gr + some-key or alt gr + shift + some-key, I use.. wait what was that app called again.. gotta check
[06:06] <Novell> akrus: kcharselect
[06:08] <Silent_G> BluesKaj,
[06:08] <akrus> oops so is there any way?
[06:09] <Novell> akrus: kcharselect
[06:09] <Silent_G> BluesKaj, iv made what the tutrial you gave me said, but nothing, as soon as i restart X a kubuntu splash image comes up then a blank screen with a white underscore
[06:09] <akrus> Novell: cannot copy to Wined3d :(
[06:09] <akrus> Novell: it inserts as "?"
[06:10] <Novell> akrus: dunno, wine doesn't seem to handle non-ASCII that good
[06:11] <Novell> I can't use my national chars in wine f.e.
[06:11] <Novell> but can compose them
[06:11] <akrus> that sucks :(
[06:11] <akrus> cause I sometimes have to ban players with this kind of nick names
[06:11] <akrus> and i have to use database instead of direct in-game blocking :)
[06:14] <Silent_G> BluesKaj, you're here? :S
[06:16] <TeraDyne> Silent_G: Looks like he's afk.
[06:16] <Silent_G> well
[06:16] <Silent_G> somebody else can help me pleae?
[06:16] <Silent_G> :S
[06:21] <BluesKaj> Silent_G, sorry to hear that ...I guess the new fglrx driver from ATI is the way to go for your setup
[06:21] <ninHer> any active mirror for downloading gutsy gibbon ?
[06:26] <david__> hi, can't seem to find libdvdcss2 in adept... not sure what to do
[06:26] <dr_willis> !dvd
[06:26] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[06:27] <dr_willis> !dvdcss
[06:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvdcss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:27] <dr_willis> Its in the alternative repositories
[06:27] <jhutchins_lt> ninHer: If you want to participate in testing you should join #ubuntu+1
[06:28] <david__> dr_willis, i tried searching for it under dvd or css in adept and it just isn't showing up for me
[06:28] <jhutchins_lt> Novell: #wine
[06:28] <ninHer> thanks jhutchins_lt.....i'm downlading right now tribe 2 torrent
[06:28] <dr_willis> "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:29] <dr_willis> enavble the Severas repositories
[06:29] <jhutchins_lt> ninHer: So what is your particular interest in testing?
[06:29] <dr_willis> It might be in the Mediatubuntu repos also. Not sure.
[06:29] <david__> oh thanks
[06:30] <jhutchins_lt> dr_willis: or plf
[06:31] <dr_willis> severas seems to be down..
[06:32] <nuxil> Hey
[06:32] <dr_willis> plf - is that even up? not seen/heard about it in MONTHS...
[06:32] <nuxil> dr_willis, why cant i use if blocks in rc.local ?
[06:33] <nuxil> dr_willis, do ya know?
[06:33] <dr_willis> nuxil,  you should be able to.. but  rc.local is being parsed by 'sh' not bash. so dont use bash only features. (would be my guess)
[06:33] <nuxil> aha
[06:33] <nuxil> well i am getting error.. i use if [[ bla bla ] ]  then bla bla
[06:34] <nuxil> and it complains about the [[
[06:34] <dr_willis> sounds like a bash vs sh (or dash) issue to me
[06:35] <dr_willis> try the same constrictun in a seperate script
[06:35] <dr_willis> see if it works with bash, then try with dash.
[06:35] <nuxil> i know it works in a seperat scrit
[06:35] <dr_willis> then that script MAY be using 'bash' depending on what #!/bin/sh or bash line you got at the top
[06:36] <dr_willis> try it with 'dash' perhaps.
[06:36] <Silent_G> BluesKaj, are you bk by any chance?
[06:36] <david__> "couldn't find the demux for >dvd:///dev/scd0" --- xine is giving this error.... even after installing css and the other packages ubuntu documentation asks for
[06:36] <BluesKaj> yup, here
[06:36] <Silent_G> it didnt work man
[06:36] <Silent_G> :S
[06:37] <Silent_G> as soon as i make fglrx as Device in Xorg.conf it doesnt start
[06:37] <Silent_G> or worst, a splash image of kubuntu and then a blank screen with a white underscore
[06:38] <BluesKaj> yes i saw that , sorry that it didn't work ,.. perhaps the fglrx proprietary driver will work ...but first choose the vesa driver to make your desktop etc work
[06:38] <Silent_G> i chose radeon driver
[06:38] <Silent_G> radeon driver works
[06:39] <Silent_G> right now im in my desktop
[06:39] <Silent_G> so , what i do exacly now?
[06:39] <BluesKaj> good, are you running 64bit ?
[06:39] <david__> dr_willis, do u know how i can fix the error i posted above?
[06:40] <Silent_G> no, 32bit
[06:40] <dr_willis> david__,  not really. YOu are trying to play a DVD disk eh...   /dev/scd0 is correct to the drive?
[06:40] <dr_willis> david__,  try vlc?
[06:40] <kosak32> siema
[06:40] <kosak32> jest ktos z polski
[06:41] <david__> yeah i think it is the correct drive
[06:41] <jtmoney_> is there any way to save a wifi passphrase in knetworkmanager WITHOUT using kwallet?
[06:41] <david__> will try vlc
[06:41] <jtmoney_> (or make kdewallet stop asking me for a password)
[06:42] <nuxil> dr_willis, in my rc.local i got #!/bin/sh -e at the top.. should i try replace it with #!/bin/bash ?? Do you think that will work?
[06:45] <Silent_G> BluesKaj, ? :O
[06:47] <BluesKaj> Silent_G, the only thing i can suggest is to go to the ati site and try to find a driver for your card
[06:47] <eboxnet> hello ppl
[06:47] <ASmith42b> Where did my trash bin go? It isn't on the desktop or in the panel.
[06:48] <eboxnet> does anybody have a prob with HAL ? (i don't know if this is the right place to ask)
[06:48] <Silent_G> BluesKaj, i cant find a driver for 7000 anywhere on their site
[06:48] <Silent_G> i think im out of like :S
[06:48] <Silent_G> *luck
[06:49] <david__> thanks dr willis, vlc is working fine
[06:51] <daquino> why is there no /etc/modules.conf ?
[06:54] <eboxnet> nobody ? :p
[06:54] <varaonaid> dr_willis: are you around?
[06:54] <dr_willis> nuxil,  try it and see
[06:54] <dr_willis> yes.. on phone
[06:54] <zipper> !vpn
[06:54] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[06:55] <blekos> hi, i want to copy a file to my windows directory which is run via vmware
[06:55] <blekos> how can i do that?
[06:55] <varaonaid> dr_willis: oh, hi!  i have a quick question for you... i setup the shared partition with the folder that i have r/w access to and it works great for most things...but several programs can't write to it... gime, digikam, etc
[06:55] <zipper> i want to create a connection to my school's vpn server. How is that done in linux? The guide seems to be for setting up vpn servers
[06:55] <jtmoney_> blekos: i would use openssh
[06:56] <jtmoney_> sudo apt-get install openssh-server i think
[06:56] <varaonaid> dr_willis: what permissions do I need to setup to change that?
[06:56] <BluesKaj> Silent_G, the "Radeon driver" on the VE/7000 seems to be the only one available for Linux
[06:56] <jtmoney_> then get putty/scp binaries for the xp box and login to your kubuntu install
[06:56] <Silent_G> what do you mean BluesKaj ?
[06:56] <Silent_G> only an open source driver is available and no hope for 3D?
[06:56] <Silent_G> :|
[06:57] <BluesKaj> Silent_G, there may be some other hacks out there
[06:58] <Silent_G> well im not good at searching :S
[06:58] <dr_willis> varaonaid,  i always use samba, to share stuff to my vmware machines.
[06:58] <dr_willis> or use ssh/winscp
[06:58] <varaonaid> dr_willis: it's a shared partition on my main hdd
[06:58] <varaonaid> for dual booting purposes
[06:59] <varaonaid> i setup the folder with r/w permissions for my username
[06:59] <varaonaid> which worked great except for program access
[06:59] <dr_willis> a actual physical partition. You need to mount it properly.
[06:59] <varaonaid> it's showing that it's mounted in /media
[06:59] <varaonaid> i can see all files, just not write to them from programs
[06:59] <dr_willis> check the output of mount, see how its mounted
[06:59] <dr_willis> if its ntfs - you need to be using ntfs-3g to write to it.
[07:00] <varaonaid> dr_willis: /dev/sda6 on /media/sda6 type ext3 (rw)
[07:00] <Luc_Aylesbury> {cc:#ubuntu} Hi Folks, is anyone aware of a means to change the default file handler from konqueror to dolphin?
[07:00] <varaonaid> dr_willis: it's not, it's ext3
[07:00] <varaonaid> programs still can't write to it
[07:01] <Silent_G> BluesKaj, is it posible that the 7100 and 7200 are compatible?
[07:01] <pag> Luc_Aylesbury, right click on a folder, choose "open with" find dolphin and tick the "use always"-box
[07:01] <dr_willis> varaonaid,   i always set up a directory On the partiton, and chown/chmod it to be owned by the user i want accessing the drive.
[07:02] <dr_willis> i DONT let the users access the 'root' of the drive
[07:02] <dr_willis> then its just a matter of normal filesystem permissions on the dir/files
[07:02] <varaonaid> dr_willis: i did that, chowned it to my username for both user and group but programs still can't write to it
[07:02] <dr_willis> double check.
[07:02] <dr_willis> I do it that way all the time.
[07:02] <varaonaid> ok
[07:03] <crocodile> When I watch movies in VLC with compiz running, the picture is transparent.  This is really annoying...
[07:03] <dr_willis> drwxr-xr-x 13 willis willis  4096 2007-07-08 22:15 willis
[07:03] <BluesKaj> Silent_G, yes , since my x200 driver works on several other cards in the same series
[07:03] <Silent_G> hmm
[07:03] <Silent_G> ok then
[07:04] <Silent_G> i'll give a try to the 7100 and 7200
[07:04] <Silent_G> if it doesnt work i'll end up on vista again :(
[07:04] <varaonaid> dr_willis: i checked, my user is both owner and group and i even added write permission for group, still didn't work for programs to write to it...
[07:05] <BluesKaj> no harm in trying Silent_G , you can always get back to your desktop with the command : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:05] <dr_willis> see if the user can write to it from the shell..
[07:05] <Silent_G> heh
[07:06] <Silent_G> BluesKaj, will you believe me if i'd tell ya iv been trying 4months to get 3D accel?
[07:06] <strabes> Silent_G: not if you have an ATI card
[07:06] <Silent_G> BluesKaj,  2different chipsets, and this ATI Card, and didnt work
[07:06] <strabes> Silent_G: i mean i would believe you
[07:06] <BluesKaj> yes, Silent_G  , i had a helluva time getting my card setup right too :(
[07:07] <Silent_G> BluesKaj, one day  you even helped me with my VIA K8m890 if you remember
[07:07] <strabes> apparently ATI is "working" on composite support for fglrx
[07:07] <Silent_G> anyways i'll see ya later gotta start trying and hoping
[07:07] <sam123> Kmix is now not displaying the pcm slider. Does anybody know how to restore it?
[07:07] <Silent_G> thanks for all the help
[07:07] <BluesKaj> strabes, I'm not holding my breath :P
[07:08] <strabes> BluesKaj: me neither, unfortunately. I'm not a big fan of XGL so i'm using the boring default now
[07:08] <sam123> im using compiz fusion :D its well fast comapred to beryl
[07:08] <sam123> but resizing windows is still laggy
[07:08] <varaonaid> dr_willis: yes, my user can write to the file on the partition...maybe the problem is with the group?
[07:08] <Graham> sam123: Fuck yes
[07:09] <dr_willis> varaonaid,  my group is the same as my user.. what group are you using?>
[07:09] <BluesKaj> strabes, I'm just happy my crappy card does what it used to do in windows ... like google earth etc
[07:09] <sam123> Graham dont use swear words please there may be children about
[07:09] <varaonaid> dr_willis: same as my user as well
[07:09] <sam123> Graham Fuck yes to what anyway?
[07:09] <strabes> BluesKaj: yeah, fglrx is decent for 3d
[07:09] <Graham> Compiz Fusion.
[07:10] <sam123> ah i thought you knew the solution to my sound mixing problem :(
[07:10] <sam123> Kmix is now not displaying the pcm slider. Does anybody know how to restore it?
[07:10] <BluesKaj> !language | gents pls
[07:10] <ubotu> gents pls: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:10] <Graham> I have an ATI card, radeon 9800xt pro, runs fglrx, works with composite and runs compiz fusion
[07:10] <sam123> i dont have a master volume slider
[07:10] <strabes> Graham: using XGL?
[07:10] <ubuntu_> sam123: right-click inside the Kmix window and select "Channels"
[07:10] <Graham> Yup
[07:11] <sam123> ati, fglrx and xgl runs composite slowly
[07:11] <BluesKaj> sam123, in the terminal ' alsamixer '
[07:11] <strabes> Graham: that's what I thought. XGL is slow & unstable compared to aiglx
[07:11] <Graham> I don't know how to run compiz fusion on aiglx
[07:11] <sam123> Ubuntu_ i did that and there isnt a master or pcm one there
[07:12] <Graham> But on XGL it's sort of a "just works" thing
[07:12] <strabes> Graham: in what way
[07:12] <sam123> BluesKaj i still dont have a master or pcm channel maybe my config is wrong?
[07:12] <Graham> As in I installed it, turned composite on, and it worked.
[07:13] <BluesKaj> sam123, have you check sound system in system settings ?
[07:13] <BluesKaj> err checked
[07:13] <sam123> BluesKaj can you pastebin the default /etc/asound.conf file please because i once modified it and lost the backup
[07:13] <Graham> Only issue is that it doesn't run my opengl apps properly and right clicking doesn't work.
[07:13] <Graham> But it stilll looks awesome.
[07:13] <crocodile> When I watch movies in VLC with compiz running, the picture is transparent.  This is really annoying... how do I fix it?
[07:13] <Graham> I show it to all the bitches.
[07:13] <Graham> They love it.
[07:13] <sam123> BluesKaj sound system is off but im positive that thats not the problem since ive had it off for years
[07:14] <Graham> Infact, I'm gona start it now, brb
[07:14] <Xarros> Bonsoir
[07:14] <Xarros> sorry
[07:14] <sam123> crocodile i know the solution i fixed it myself earlier
[07:14] <crocodile> good, can you tell me?
[07:14] <sam123> crocodile you mean the compiz fusion right?
[07:15] <crocodile> yes
[07:15] <sam123> ok start the compizconfig settings manager
[07:15] <sam123> click general options
[07:15] <sam123> crocodile then opacity settings and remote unknown
[07:15] <sam123> also try removing fullscreen if its there
[07:16] <varaonaid> dr_willis: figured it out!!  some of the folders that i moved in there from an external hdd had had their permissions changes to root so i changed all of them to user and now it works!! thanks for your help :)
[07:16] <dr_willis> varaonaid,  thats what chmod -R is all about. :)
[07:16] <crocodile> sam123 - I don't see remote unknown
[07:16] <dr_willis> :)
[07:16] <K-Ryan> I'm having some serious trouble with my xorg.conf right now. I had it regenerated last time I was on here and now that I rebooted, about 3/5 of my monitor is actually used, and a whole 1/5 of that is just blank space.
[07:17] <varaonaid> dr_willis: i'm not familiar with that one yet but obviously need to check it out!  again...thanks :)
[07:17] <sam123> crocodile did you use the command 'ccsm'?
[07:17] <dr_willis> sudo chown -R username.username  *      :) or similer..  chmod if the modes are wrong.
[07:17] <K-Ryan> !xorg
[07:17] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:17] <crocodile> sam123 - I'm in the compiz config manager yeah, and in general -> opacity, but I don't see remote unknown..
[07:18] <Graham> I need to restart x first... having issues/
[07:18] <crocodile> I can see ((type=Unknown | more options | more options | more options |)  in the opacity windows settings
[07:18] <sam123> remove unknown
[07:19] <sam123> that may fix it
[07:19] <crocodile> oh remove, duh. Silly typos :P
[07:19] <sam123> sorry
[07:20] <sam123> crocodile did it work then?
[07:20] <sam123> !asound
[07:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asound - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:20] <crocodile> sam123 - that did it man thanks
[07:20] <sam123> !asound.conf
[07:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asound.conf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:21] <sam123> crocodile np im glad to be useful for once :D could you pastebin your /etc/asound.conf for me please?
[07:21] <wk> hello - does someone know the packet sources for the latest kde version in ubuntu dapper (6.06) ?
[07:21] <BluesKaj> strange sam123 , can't locate that file
[07:21] <BluesKaj> !.asoundrc
[07:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asoundrc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:21] <bretzel> Hi all -- Where the hell is KDevelop-3.4.1 ???? what's going wrong with this one ? cannot find it nowhere ???? ( 3,4,0 keeps crashing on my face )
[07:21] <sam123> BluesKaj are you using alsa?
[07:21] <sam123> BluesKaj i edited my asoundrc too
[07:22] <sam123> /brb
[07:22] <crocodile> sam123 - sorry mate I dont have an asound.conf
[07:22] <kerb_> hi folks, just new comer.
[07:23] <bretzel> Where is KDevelop-3.4.1???
[07:23] <Silent_G> BluesKaj,  is it posible to downgrade Xorg to 7.1 on kubuntu?
[07:23] <BluesKaj> dunno Silent_G ....gents ?
[07:23] <Silent_G> gents?
[07:23] <Silent_G> O_o
[07:24] <BluesKaj> sam123,http://www.pcauthority.com.au/print.aspx?CIID=21424&SIID=10
[07:24] <Silent_G> cause the ati driver for 7100 is only for xorg 7.1
[07:24] <Silent_G> :|
[07:24] <BluesKaj> Silent_G, maybe some one else here has done what you are asking
[07:24] <Silent_G> hmm
[07:24] <crocodile> how do I make VLC open movies in the same instance of VLC when it's running, instead of opening a new copy and playing 2 movies at once?
[07:24] <Silent_G> some body know how to downgrade xorg to 7.1 please?
[07:26] <SkorpKing> man aptitude. it might have a downgrade option for packages. not sure
[07:26] <Silent_G> ok i will
[07:30] <Luc_Aylesbury> pag, thank you so much!
[07:30] <pag> Luc_Aylesbury, np :)
[07:32] <Luc_Aylesbury> pag although right-click open with dolphin just opens dolphin just opens dolphin straight away
[07:32] <Luc_Aylesbury> it doesn't give me the option of "Always use dolphin"
[07:32] <Luc_Aylesbury> I try open with -> other
[07:33] <Luc_Aylesbury> and put dolphin in the box
[07:33] <pag> Luc_Aylesbury, yeah, I know... I just typed the instructions fast, without any checking on how good they in fact were
[07:33] <pag> Luc_Aylesbury, so sorry about that.
[07:33] <Luc_Aylesbury> pag, ah ok :)
[07:33] <Luc_Aylesbury> pag, I hope that there is a workaround :D
[07:35] <Luc_Aylesbury> pag I found the workaround
[07:35] <pag> Luc_Aylesbury, if you'll open it with "open with other" and choose the dolpin (it's really better to choose than just to type) and tick the "remember application assosiation.." -box it'll work 100%
[07:35] <Luc_Aylesbury> pag I found the true workaround :)
[07:35] <Luc_Aylesbury> pag,  you must go to konqueror preferences
[07:35] <pag> Luc_Aylesbury, yeah, that's another way :)
[07:36] <Luc_Aylesbury> pag, and then change the applicaton preference order for inode / directory
[07:36] <Luc_Aylesbury> pag, so dolphin is at the top
[07:36] <Luc_Aylesbury> now all clicks on kdesktop will open dolphin so I'm very happy - thank you pag !
[07:36] <eloque> sup people
[07:36] <jhutchins_lt> It's also more likely that you'll get the "remember this association" checkbox if you right-click or shift- right-click on a local file than on a remote link.
[07:36] <eloque> does anybody know of a program for kde similar to netlimiter in windows?
[07:36] <jhutchins_lt> (WTF is "dolphin" anyway?)
[07:37] <jhutchins_lt> !info dolphin
[07:37] <ubotu> dolphin: File manager for KDE focusing on usability. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 1251 kB, installed size 2252 kB
[07:37] <eloque> i have a system monitor that is showing higher traffic than the progras that i am using are reporting
[07:37] <jhutchins_lt> Luc_Aylesbury: You might also be able to set that in kde components under kcontrol.
[07:38] <Luc_Aylesbury> jhutchins, thank you it is quite likely also :)
[07:38] <jhutchins_lt> eloque: That's called overhead.
[07:38] <Luc_Aylesbury> :)
[07:38] <eloque> well its quite a bit of overhead
[07:38] <eloque> :)
[07:38] <jhutchins_lt> eloque: You'll need to delve into some console tools like netstat to figure it out.
[07:39] <jhutchins_lt> eloque: Possibly also use a packet sniffer.
[07:39] <eloque> i only have two programs that are using the net
[07:39] <eloque> one is azureus the other is aMSN
[07:39] <eloque> well and now xchat
[07:39] <eloque> heh
[07:39] <jhutchins_lt> eloque: Oh, bittorrent has LOTS of spurious traffic, and most clients only report the actual transfer rate.
[07:40] <eloque> there is no graphical interface i can use to limit programs' traffic?
[07:40] <eloque> ok
[07:40] <jhutchins_lt> eloque: You might be interested in pidgin (formerly gaim) and kopete for msn.
[07:40] <jhutchins_lt> eloque: I doubt it.
[07:40] <eloque> wow
[07:40] <eloque> i woulda thought there were dozens
[07:40] <jhutchins_lt> eloque: It would be done on the kernel/iptables level, which is all textually controlled.
[07:40] <pag> eloque, or kmess, if you want a KDE-app primarly focused on MSN
[07:40] <eloque> as utility programs for linux usually come in the dozens
[07:41] <eloque> hmm k
[07:41] <pag> eloque, iirc. there's a way to limit azureus' traffic from inside the app itself
[07:41] <jhutchins_lt> eloque: It usually requires sufficient knowledge of what you're doing that it tends to stay in the console realm.
[07:41] <eloque> yea i have azureus limited
[07:41] <jhutchins_lt> eloque: Most linux users aren't willing to blindly trust someone else's choices for such essential functions, thank goodness.
[07:41] <eloque> at 8kbps
[07:42] <eloque> jhutchins, good point
[07:42] <eloque> us winkiddies on the otherharn
[07:42] <eloque> hand
[07:42] <eloque> we pass out trust by the kilp
[07:42] <eloque> kilo
[07:42] <jhutchins_lt> eloque: You're not quite getting this.  What azureus reports and limits by is not total traffic generated by the bittorrent process.  There's a lot of background function happening.
[07:42] <gss6> does anyone know an easy way to use the mozilla rendering engine in konqueor?
[07:43] <eloque> just have a nice website with aqua and green themes and a decent looking "ok" button and we press it
[07:43] <jhutchins_lt> eloque: All you limit is the outbound file transfer bandwidth, not the handshaking, the slice tracking, the seeding, the tracker monitoring, etc.
[07:43] <D_Cent> hi
[07:43] <D_Cent> how can i play midi-files with kubuntu?
[07:43] <eloque> i totally understood what he said jhutchins  thanks
[07:44] <jhutchins_lt> D_Cent: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[07:44] <eloque> and i get now what u mean by the overhead
[07:44] <D_Cent> thanks
[07:44] <jhutchins_lt> eloque: Sorry, I should have been clearer.
[07:45] <jhutchins_lt> eloque: Good idea to read up on what all goes on during bittorent operation so you'll be able to spot actual potential problems and hacking.
[07:45] <eloque> thanks a bunch
[07:45] <jhutchins_lt> eloque: The background/overhead stuff is one of the things that different clients handle more or less efficiently, leading some to be "better" than others.
[07:45] <eloque> and 4ill check otu the new gaim
[07:46] <BluesKaj> gss6 , try konqueror configure / browser ID
[07:46] <eloque> if only my webcam worked with linux i would be a permanent user
[07:46] <eloque> but i gotta get a new cam before that happens
[07:46] <gss6> not the browser ID..the actual rendering engine
[07:46] <eloque> i found my BT downloads are so much better in linux
[07:46] <eloque> windows has tooo much overhead
[07:47] <sam123> BluesKaj thanks for the link its got some useful information
[07:47] <gss6> BluesKaj: im converting from gnome and the only thing holding me back from full kde integration is i find khtml is kinda slow on many sites
[07:48] <FireHazard17> he wants to use geckoon konqeror?
[07:48] <FireHazard17> i just installed firefox
[07:48] <eloque> ff > *
[07:48] <gss6> well, i read theres a kpart for using gecko within konqueror
[07:49] <gss6> but i cannot find very much info on it
[07:49] <gss6> and it is pretty old new
[07:49] <gss6> s
[07:50] <gss6> let me stress im new to kde
[07:51] <BluesKaj> gss6, whynot just use fireFox ?
[07:52] <SkorpKing> does anyone know the vodacom settings to connect a 3G modem in South Africa? i'm so sick of my M$ box! google links help but not enough!
[07:52] <FireHazard17> broadcom?
[07:52] <gss6> BluesKaj: because 2 web browsers is overhead
[07:52] <Shaezsche> how do i check how much free space is available on my hD?
[07:53] <SkorpKing> df
[07:53] <gss6> df -h
[07:53] <SkorpKing> or mount :)
[07:53] <FireHazard17> in kde4 the file browser will be seperate so you can unmerge konqeror and replace it with firefox
[07:54] <gss6> lol, but im running 3.5 and dont plan on switching to 4 for at least a year after release most likely
[07:54] <FireHazard17> why?
[07:54] <FireHazard17> stability?
[07:55] <BluesKaj> gss6, http://64.233.167.104/linux?q=cache:SrLZn_DJW_UJ:searchenterpriselinux.techtarget.com/searchEnterpriseLinux/downloads/tdlinux_ch02.pdf+gecko+within+konqueror&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&lr=lang_en|lang_fr
[07:57] <gss6> BluesKaj: that isnt what im looking for
[07:57] <visham> hi folks
[07:58] <visham> nmap breaks down my net connection pls help
[07:59] <K-Ryan> !restore
[07:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restore - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:59] <K-Ryan> !backup
[07:59] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[07:59] <visham> i type 'nmap -sS -T4 -O <host>' and after a few seconds my internet connecton breaks down
[07:59] <andy_> hallo
[08:00] <andy_> halloechen
[08:06] <jhutchins_lt> For me it's a last resort if a page won't work in konq.
[08:10] <Squirrely_Wrath> Anyone have a suggestion on a good gnutella p2p application?
[08:10] <jhutchins_lt> Squirrely_Wrath: pidgin or kopete?
[08:11] <Ryaren> hi!
[08:11] <Ryaren> How can I make a script to xrestart?
[08:11] <jhutchins_lt> Squirrely_Wrath: Or is that p2p file stuff>
[08:11] <jhutchins_lt> ?
[08:12] <Squirrely_Wrath> p2p.  Kinda like limewire, but NOT limewire. lol
[08:13] <roger> hi
[08:13] <jhutchins_lt> !p2p | Squirrely_Wrath
[08:13] <ubotu> Squirrely_Wrath: Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[08:14] <Squirrely_Wrath> ah, thanks
[08:14] <sam123> does anybody know where i can download a pcm encoded wav file so that i can test my alsa setup?
[08:15] <Contrast> Greets, everyone
[08:15] <fliker-09> greets to everyone
[08:16] <Contrast> Any ideas why tab completion wouldn't be working for anything following "sudo"?
[08:16] <jhutchins_lt> Contrast: Has to do with the possible completing sequences.  Try doing the command first, then inserting sudo.
[08:16] <sam123> I love tab completion its so useful :D
[08:16] <varaonaid> hi, i'm trying to get the dell 355 bluetooth adapter to work and from what i've read i need to have the hci_usb module loaded but it isn't...i'm wondering where i get that and how i load it?
[08:16] <t> Contrast: It's not supposed to really..
[08:17] <jhutchins_lt> sam123: How about the emacs style command editing?
[08:17] <jhutchins_lt> !find hci_usb
[08:17] <Contrast> jhutchins_lt: Thanks for the reply, but I think it's something I've done, because I don't have that problem on 2/3 of my computers, and I never had it until recently on this one
[08:17] <ubotu> Package/file hci_usb does not exist in feisty
[08:17] <jhutchins_lt> !find hci_usb.so
[08:17] <jhutchins_lt> !find hci_usb.o
[08:17] <sam123> jhutchins_lt i havent got used to that yet
[08:18] <ubotu> Package/file hci_usb.so does not exist in feisty
[08:18] <ubotu> Package/file hci_usb.o does not exist in feisty
[08:18] <BluesKaj> sam123, cd wav files are pcm
[08:18] <sam123> BluesKaj thanks
[08:18] <jhutchins_lt> sam123: Niether have I - and it's been a LOONG time.  I recently discovered how to switch it to vi-style, but I haven't put that in my bashrc yet.
[08:19] <sam123> jhutchins_lt ive allways prefered nano to vi since vi needs alot of getting used to
[08:19] <jhutchins_lt> I've used vi since I started using linux, so "used to" is accomplished.
[08:19] <jhutchins_lt> Then again, I've used edlin.
[08:20] <Contrast> OK, how about this: Tab-completion also isn't working for anything following "apt-get" :-\
[08:21] <Contrast> (sans sudo)
[08:21] <jhutchins_lt> Contrast: Um, how would apt know what package you might be requesting?
[08:21] <t> Contrast: It only works for the first word in the line - it assumes that is the only command.
[08:21] <jhutchins_lt> or bash for that matter?
[08:22] <t> Contrast: It will still work for completing file names.
[08:22] <jhutchins_lt> t: It'll also work for files to be operated on by commands in most cases.
[08:22] <Contrast> jhutchins_lt: It works on 2/3 of my computers, and it used to work on this one, I promise
[08:22] <jhutchins_lt> Doesn't work for options.
[08:22] <Contrast> Packages aren't options
[08:22] <jhutchins_lt> Contrast: Uh huh.  Pastebin an example if you think that's true.
[08:22] <jhutchins_lt> Contrast: They aren't files either, unless they're local.
[08:23] <BluesKaj> I find autocompletion a PITA in most cases
[08:23] <sam123> what package do i need for wav decoding?
[08:23] <jhutchins_lt> Contrast: bash can only complete things it knows about, which are commands and local files.
[08:23] <gss6> tab completion works for me in every arguement of apt-get/aptitude
[08:23] <Contrast> jhutchins_lt: What exact reason would I have to lie about that? One sec, I'll get on the laptop and pastebin it, unless, of course, you'll claim I just falsified it. :-\
[08:23] <jhutchins_lt> sam123: decoding to what?
[08:23] <jhutchins_lt> Contrast: I think your recollection may be confused.  I don't think you're lying, but you're wrong.
[08:23] <BluesKaj> sam123, do you have the amarok player ?
[08:24] <sam123> BluesKaj yes
[08:24] <sam123> jthutchins_lt decoding to something playable
[08:24] <jhutchins_lt> sam123: rm -r ~/.xine
[08:24] <Ryaren> How can I make a script to xrestart?
[08:24] <BluesKaj> sam123, wav is a std cd audio codec , just click on a song
[08:25] <jhutchins_lt> sam123: Look for wav2... or wavto... utilities specific to the format you want, or transcode with ffmpeg, mplayer, etc.
[08:25] <jhutchins_lt> Ryaren: Perhaps you should explain what you're actually trying to do?
[08:25] <Contrast> jhutchins_lt: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29268
[08:26] <sam123> for some reason only one of my cd drives could read my audio cd
[08:26] <jhutchins_lt> Contrast: Well, that's fairly wierd, unless those files are in your current directory.  Interesting.
[08:27] <Contrast> jhutchins_lt: Honest to God, ever since I knew what tab-completion was, I've been able to do that
[08:28] <jhutchins_lt> Very odd.  Doesn't work at all on my kubuntu.
[08:28] <jhutchins_lt> Contrast: I wonder where it gets the list of possible files from.
[08:28] <Contrast> It makes sense to me - apt-get is just querying the list of packages, which is locally on the system
[08:28] <jhutchins_lt> Contrast: I mean, my system usually takes significant time to do a search and pattern match in apt.
[08:29] <jhutchins_lt> Contrast: Mine just beeps.
[08:29] <Contrast> Same here (on this computer)
[08:29] <Contrast> I can't even tab-complete "install from "apt-get i" (which I CAN do on the laptop)
[08:30] <Contrast> *"install"*
[08:31] <ubuntu_> tdrg
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[08:32] <Contrast> Looks like I'll be using "apt-get" a lot less. :-\
[08:32] <BluesKaj> Contrast, try aptitude :)
[08:32] <Contrast> Doesn't work for that either, BluesKaj - but thanks anyway. :-) (Have you been following along?)
[08:33] <vzduch> I don't think you're faster searching for programs in Adept or Synaptic..
[08:33] <BluesKaj> well, i'm just wondering why it's so important , Contrast
[08:33] <BluesKaj> :)
[08:35] <BluesKaj> dunno why but the tab completion works in the konsole ok ... don't remeber activating the autocomplketions option anywhere
[08:35] <Contrast> Because it's fast. I type "sudo apt-get install program-of-interest" - hit tab twice, then I have a list of all the packages whose names start with "program-of-interest"
[08:35] <Contrast> BluesKaj: Did you see my pasted example? You're able to tab-complete like that?
[08:36] <BluesKaj> apt-get i ?
[08:36] <BluesKaj> yes it works
[08:37] <Contrast> Hmm... jhutchins_lt said it's never worked for him. It always did for me until recently on this particular computer. :-\
[08:37] <Contrast> Oh well
[08:38] <BluesKaj> the pasetbin post...no it didn't work for me either , Contrast :(
[08:38] <vzduch> !samba
[08:38] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:38] <Contrast> Oh ok
[08:38] <Contrast> Guess I should just count my blessings and move on. Heh
[08:38] <animal> hi pls help me.. I have problem with guitsy Kubuntu.. can't install adept or synaptic
[08:38] <SkorpKing> tabcompletion works for me!
[08:39] <Contrast> animal: You might have better luck at #kubuntu+1, just so you know. Are you using Gutsy as your main OS?
[08:40] <Ryaren> How can I restart X with a different config file? /etc/init.d/kdm restart -xorg.conf2
[08:40] <MidMark> any help with a "ghost" disappearing cdrom after installation?
[08:40] <MidMark> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/124187
[08:40] <Huey> i am trying to install kubuntu on a laptop without a working cd-rom drive. i have created a chrooted environment, and followed the steps described here:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot . If i follow this up with 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' and point grub to boot off of that partition, will i have the equivalent kubuntu environment setup as if i had installed off of the cd?
[08:40] <Contrast> SkorpKing: In the context we're talking about?
[08:40] <Ryaren> Is that good?
[08:41] <BluesKaj> Contrast, i hit the tab key twice and it completed a list of kw- apps
[08:41] <animal> yes. I am use gutsy like main OS. I am apgrade it from 7.04.. :-( Now I think I am not right..
[08:41] <animal> some thing wrong with apt..
[08:41] <SkorpKing> Contrast: sudo aptitude install tab tab myprogram
[08:41] <Contrast> BluesKaj: It does that here too, but that's not what was in the pastebin ;-)
[08:42] <animal> contrast : Is only me have problem with apt?
[08:42] <Contrast> animal: Gutsy is still Alpha, meaning you shouldn't really be using it for your main system. You know that, right?
[08:43] <animal> contrast : I don't know it, but you says me..
[08:43] <Contrast> ?
[08:44] <animal> Contrast : totaly I need wait then problems with repositaries will solved. As I understand you..
[08:44] <Contrast> SkorpKing: Any idea what might cause that to not work?
[08:45] <Contrast> animal: No...
[08:45] <SkorpKing> Contrast: no and can't check either. not on my linux box now. :-(
[08:45] <iarwain> can anyone help me with a "busybox" error? (the "can't access tty" error)
[08:46] <Contrast> animal: You should reinstall Feisty and use that as your main OS - and if you want to check out Gutsy's new features or help with testing, install it on a spare computer or as a dual-boot
[08:47] <Contrast> SkorpKing: Thanks anyway
[08:47] <saintm1777> hi all
[08:47] <animal> Contrast : can I downgrade to Feisty? In my notebook Gutsy work good. I have only problems with reposataries...
[08:48] <saintm1777> Its been a week of having Kubuntu on my laptop and desktop with only one incident
[08:48] <Contrast> animal: Not sure. Like I said, try #kubuntu+1 - they'll be able to help you better over there. :-)
[08:49] <saintm1777> yesterday KDE went nuts when I changed the resolution and graphic card config
[08:49] <saintm1777> I had to wipe the installation and reinstall
[08:49] <saintm1777> Pain
[08:49] <Contrast> saintm1777: Is Kubuntu your first distro?
[08:50] <saintm1777> I am sure if I knew some commands I could have restored things
[08:50] <animal> contrast : thank you very much.. :-)
[08:50] <Novell> or you could just have removed ~/.kde and all your KDE settings would have been gone
[08:50] <MaTiAz> Hey, can a little messed up /etc/fstab affect the Windows setup on my PC at all?
[08:50] <Contrast> animal: NP
[08:50] <saintm1777> yes Contrast
[08:50] <Novell> saintm1777: that was for you btw
[08:50] <dale> Could anyone provide me with an link to an tutorials wich allows me the use flash in a 64bit browser
[08:50] <dale> wrapper or somethink.
[08:50] <saintm1777> thanks
[08:50] <saintm1777> Novell
[08:50] <Contrast> saintm1777: I broke my installation a good number of times when I was first starting out, lost count of how many times I reinstalled. Heh
[08:51] <saintm1777> but I lost files I was working on and thought that during reinstall I could recover them
[08:51] <saintm1777> crap
[08:51] <Novell> I remember when I first tried to start X.. Took me a good 2 weeks, but that was before internet was common and the word broadband wasn't invented yet :P
[08:52] <Contrast> saintm1777: A word of advice - If you have to reinstall again, when you're setting up the partitions, make a seperate partition mounted at /home - and don't reformat it the NEXT time you reinstall. All your files, preferences, etc. will be in tact
[08:52] <saintm1777> Contrast:Thanks for that.
[08:53] <saintm1777> I used mandrake (now Mandriva) once before and liked the disk partitioning tools
[08:53] <Contrast> saintm1777: NP. I wish I'd known that when I was starting. Would've saved tons of grief. Whatever though, learned a lot the hard way. Heh
[08:53] <jhutchins_lt> Contrast: Um, actually, it does work for me.
[08:53] <jhutchins_lt> Contrast: I left off the "install" - after I auto-completed that, it works.
[08:53] <X2B> question: My "strg + alt + F" keys for changing to terminals don't work. How can I fix this??
[08:54] <saintm1777> Contrast:thanks again.  I am learning semi-hardway!
[08:54] <saintm1777> what is xserver
[08:54] <Contrast> jhutchins_lt: So "$ apt-get kwi" double-tab would list all packages that start with "kwi"?
[08:54] <Contrast> !info X
[08:54] <ubotu> Package x does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:54] <Contrast> !X
[08:54] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:54] <saintm1777> kept geting this thing about restarting xserver to affect changes
[08:56] <Contrast> saintm1777: Memorize this command - it'll come in handy when you break xorg.conf (the X config file) - "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" - Knowing that would've saved me from a good half a dozen newb reinstalls. lol
[08:56] <X2B> sry I meant ctrl....
[08:56] <saintm1777> lol
[08:56] <jhutchins_lt> Contrast: Gotta be apt-get install kwi<tab>
[08:56] <saintm1777> I just used superlatives and grunted!
[08:56] <Contrast> jhutchins_lt: That doesn't work here. That's why I was asking about it in the first place. ;-)
[08:56] <saintm1777> writing command in my little black book
[08:57] <jhutchins_lt> Contrast: I guess we could compare our bash and apt versions.
[08:57] <jhutchins_lt> dash is 0.5.3-5ubuntu2
[08:58] <Contrast> jhutchins_lt: What's the quickest way for me to find those, aside from looking in the package manager?
[08:58] <jhutchins_lt> apt is 0.6.46.4ubuntu
[08:58] <jhutchins_lt> dpkg -l apt
[08:59] <saintm1777> Just for peace of mind could someone tell me how to download and install a peice of software other than using Adept.
[08:59] <Contrast> jhutchins_lt: Same versions
[08:59] <vzduch> my apt is 0.6.46.4ubuntu10
[08:59] <Contrast> saintm1777: What exactly are you wanting to install?
[08:59] <saintm1777> I hae come across loads of games and apps but am terrified to install them or have tried and nothing worked
[09:00] <saintm1777> I got this app, downloaded it, untarred it(whatever they call it) and then could do nothing
[09:00] <jhutchins_lt> saintm1777: Shouldn't let non-functional software scare you.
[09:00] <Contrast> saintm1777: You want to look for Debian packages (program-name.deb). Just download it, right-click on it in Konqueror -> Konqueror Package Menu -> Install package
[09:00] <jhutchins_lt> !build | saintm1777
[09:00] <ubotu> saintm1777: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:00] <jhutchins_lt> saintm1777: After all, you have backups, right?
[09:00] <jhutchins_lt> saintm1777: Right?
[09:00] <osh_> Is there a simple way to see what kio-slaves are installed? something like kio:/ in konqueror or similar?
[09:00] <jhutchins_lt> saintm1777: You do have backups, don't you?
[09:01] <saintm1777> right
[09:01] <Contrast> lol jhutchins_lt
[09:01] <saintm1777> not just yet
[09:01] <saintm1777> but thanks for the reminder
[09:01] <Contrast> jhutchins_lt: What do you use for backups?
[09:01] <saintm1777> this !build command works on what types of files?
[09:02] <saintm1777> What is Debian?
[09:02] <Contrast> !debian
[09:02] <ubotu> Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[09:02] <saintm1777> is it compiled software?
[09:02] <hero> saintm1777: yes. http://www.debian.org or #debian
[09:02] <vzduch> hero: ##debian
[09:02] <hero> my mistake
[09:03] <saintm1777> cool.
[09:03] <hero> but it'll redirect you.
[09:03] <saintm1777> thanks guys
[09:03] <Contrast> saintm1777: Ubuntu uses the same package management system (determines how software's installed) as Debian
[09:03] <Contrast> saintm1777: Check http://www.getdeb.net/ if you're not finding what you're looking for in Adept
[09:03] <FroggyTheGreat> Graaugh
[09:04] <FroggyTheGreat> Anyone know if it's possible to map the windows key to open kmenu?
[09:04] <SlimeyPete> FroggyTheGreat: I tried to find a way but couldn't
[09:04] <SlimeyPete> I think kde treats it purely as a meta-key
[09:04] <FroggyTheGreat> I can't find any hooks to it.  Granted, I'm a neophyte.
[09:04] <Ryaren> hi
[09:04] <Contrast> saintm1777: Also, third-party repositories have some great stuff, although using them might add a bit of instability as some contain the latest, untested versions of some packages
[09:05] <Contrast> !worksforme
[09:05] <saintm1777> I will venture into installing tonight
[09:05] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[09:05] <Contrast> !works for me
[09:05] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[09:05] <Contrast> whoops
[09:05] <Ryaren> How can I restart the X with a different config file like xorg.conf2? What is the option what I have to use?
[09:05] <rub3n> hola
[09:05] <rub3n> buenas tardes
[09:06] <FroggyTheGreat> Is there a keystroke binding at all to open kmenu?
[09:06] <Contrast> Ryaren: I'm guessing you don't just want to copy xorg.conf to xorg.conf-backup and xorg.conf2 to xorg.conf, right?
[09:06] <Contrast> FroggyTheGreat: Alt+F1
[09:07] <Ryaren> no I want to create a script to the Desktop because I have two different config file! One for the games one for the movies :)
[09:07] <Contrast> FroggyTheGreat: Check System Settings -> Regional & Accessibility -> Keyboard Shortcuts for the whole list ;-)
[09:07] <FroggyTheGreat> Thanks.  Pretty sure there wasn't a hook in there, but I'll look again.
[09:07] <Ryaren> and I don't want to always type /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[09:08] <Contrast> Ryaren: I had a setup like that a while back, got to be a PITA though. But I just put the aforementioned actions into the scripts
[09:08] <Ryaren> PITA?
[09:08] <Ryaren> !pita
[09:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pita - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:09] <Contrast> Ryaren: Although I had no success whatsoever with restarting KDM from a script, despite great efforts (pita = pain in the)
[09:09] <vzduch> Ryaren: pain in the a***
[09:09] <FroggyTheGreat> Ok, there's no keyboard hook to the k-menu that I can find.
[09:09] <Ryaren> I don't know the syntax How can I configure to reach different conf file with a command
[09:09] <Contrast> FroggyTheGreat: One sec...
[09:10] <Ryaren>  /etc/init.d/kdm -xorg.conf2 restart or what??
[09:10] <Contrast> FroggyTheGreat: It's called the launch menu in there
[09:11] <FroggyTheGreat> Contrast - thanks, I'll look again.
[09:11] <Contrast> Ryaren: You might ask in #xorg - sorry, I don't know
[09:11] <Ryaren> okay Thank you
[09:11] <Contrast> Ryaren: Did you try it the way you'rer suggesting? I can't imagine that would break anything if it's wrong
[09:11] <FroggyTheGreat> Hunh.  It won't let me define a shortcut using just the win key.
[09:12] <Contrast> FroggyTheGreat: Yeah, you can't use modifier keys (alt, ctrl, shift, win) as actions by themselves
[09:12] <FroggyTheGreat> ngk
[09:13] <Contrast> FroggyTheGreat: There is an opton you can add to xorg.conf so you can define one of them as a different key and use it like a regular button - that's how Kubuntu was by default up until Feisty (I used the right Alt key to bring up the K Menu)
[09:13] <Contrast> ngk?
[09:14] <FroggyTheGreat> Hmm.
[09:14] <andres1> hi, Im having some problrem when using Adept Manager... when i try to install something is giving me the following message
[09:14] <andres1> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[09:14] <FroggyTheGreat> Where would I find the xorg.conf?
[09:15] <andres1> i try diferent packages but it always tells me the same thing
[09:15] <Kr4t05> andres1: Pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:15] <Contrast> FroggyTheGreat: /etc/X11 - hang on one sec though...
[09:15] <FroggyTheGreat> ok
[09:16] <Kr4t05> andres1: You should go ahead a bring up a Konsole window, too.
[09:16] <Contrast> FroggyTheGreat: Be very careful when editing that - setting something wrong can leave you stuck at the command line with no GUI (you can run this command from there to set things back to normal - "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg")
[09:16] <Reggie> I can't compile anything in kdevelop, I get errors like in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29277/ and I have no idea what to do.
[09:18] <andres1> Kr4t05: i got the /etc/a[t/spurces.list up
[09:18] <andres1> and the console
[09:18] <Kr4t05> Reggie: Install libx11-dev with apt or Adept
[09:18] <Contrast> FroggyTheGreat: If you want to try what I was talking about, here's the line you'd add under the input device section for your keyboard in xorg.conf - Option          "XkbOptions"    "lv3:ralt_switch"
[09:18] <Kr4t05> andres1: Try using apt-get to install a package
[09:18] <Contrast> brb
[09:19] <andres1> ok
[09:19] <Kr4t05> Then, also, pastebin what it returns.
[09:19] <Reggie> Kr4t05: thanks, I'll install it as soon as I'll be able to access my linux box
[09:19] <andres1> what u mean byu pastebin?
[09:20] <Kr4t05> !paste > andres1
[09:20] <Contrast83> FroggyTheGreat: I just set mine like that, works perfectly.
[09:20] <Kr4t05> andres1: Did you get that?
[09:21] <andres1> yeah
[09:21] <Contrast83> FroggyTheGreat: You have to restart X for changes to that file to take effect though (log out, press Alt+E at the login screen - or click Restart X Server from the menu - and log back in)
[09:21] <BluesKaj> !pastebin > BluesKaj
[09:21] <andres1> let me do then
[09:22] <Kr4t05> andres1: It works with apt-get?
[09:23] <blizzzek> kmail is not decripting mails i receive. gnupg key is set, also the encryption module is active. what can i do?
[09:23] <andres1> ok kr405: im doing the pastebin for the context of /etc/apt/sources.list which are at this location http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29279/
[09:24] <andres1> haven try adt-get
[09:24] <vzduch> andres1: you have a strange keyboard layout if you are able to confuse p with d ;)
[09:25] <andres1> lol Sorry i just typed to fast :-P
[09:25] <FroggyTheGreat> Let's see if this works...
[09:25] <Kr4t05> andres1: Yeah... You have edgy and fiesty repos mixed.
[09:25] <TeraDyne> vzduch: or the keyboard is flipped...
[09:26] <Contrast83> Does anyone know how flexible this option - lv3:ralt_switch - is? i.e., could I also do lv3:lwin_switch ?
[09:27] <andres1> kr4t05 so what can i do to fix that
[09:27] <Contrast83> andres1: Take out the lines in your sources.list that have "edgy" in them
[09:27] <Kr4t05> andres1: What you need to do is this: Go to http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic and click everything applicable to your system. Then copy and paste the text your givin to the file you pastebin'd earlier (/etc/apt/sources.list). Make sure you save it. Then, from a console, run sudo apt-get update and upgrade as nessesary
[09:28] <vzduch> andres1: depends on whether you have Edgy or Feisty installee
[09:28] <vzduch> *installed
[09:28] <Kr4t05> Contrast83: I can handle it. :P
[09:28] <Contrast83> Kr4t05: Sorry, forgot how confusing it can get when two people are trying to help someone. :-)
[09:29] <kooshi> hello, where can I see latest kde4 screenshots?
[09:29] <andres1> all right thanks
[09:29] <BluesKaj> or replace the "edgy" with "feisty" , if feisty is installed , but somehow i don't think it is
[09:29] <Kr4t05> andres1: Glad I could help. :)
[09:29] <Contrast83> Kr4t05: Nice link. Committing that to memory. Heh
[09:30] <Kr4t05> andres1: Bear in mind, if you still have problems, you may need to reinstall from scratch. Mixing repos cross-version like that is a great way to completely fudge your system. ;)
[09:30] <Contrast83> Kr4t05: Do you know anything about keyboard options in xorg.conf?
[09:30] <Kr4t05> Contrast83: Not off the top of my head, but I thought I saw a howto on the forums not too long ago.
[09:31] <Contrast83> Thanks, I'll have a look
[09:32] <andres1> wow ok THAT doesnt sound good
[09:32] <BluesKaj> andres1, what are you using Feisty or Edgy ?
[09:33] <Contrast83> ubotu: Why doesn't Konqueror have a feature as primitive as Ctrl/Shift+Enter completion for URLS?
[09:34] <andres1> BluesKaj: To be honest with you i really dont know
[09:34] <rustalot> what program do I use for .flv's?
[09:35] <jhutchins_lt> Contrast83: Um, how about just "Enter"?
[09:36] <andres1> kr4t05: if im using  kubuntu what ubuntu realease im suding
[09:36] <andres1> using*
[09:36] <TeraDyne> andres1: depends. There's a new Kubuntu with every Ubuntu
[09:36] <Contrast83> jhutchins_lt: I don't think you understand. Typing "ubuntu" and hitting Ctrl+Enter should go to http://www.ubuntu.com - doing what you're saying just does a local search for "ubuntu"
[09:37] <TeraDyne> andres1: Kubuntu 7.04 is the same as Ubuntu 7.04, so whatever Kubuntu you're using is the version of Ubuntu you're using
[09:37] <jhutchins_lt> Contrast83: But what if I want to go to ubuntu.net?
[09:38] <kooshi> Firefox solved this problem admirably, you can use different shortcuts for different suffixes
[09:38] <Contrast83> jhutchins_lt: In Firefox, you would type "ubuntu" and hit Shift+Enter
[09:38] <jhutchins_lt> or ubuntu-hacking.net?
[09:38] <andres1> oh ok   and that depents also on the edgy or festy
[09:38] <Kr4t05> andres1: It makes no difference. The repos for Ubuntu work with Kubuntu. :)
[09:38] <jhutchins_lt> I detest firefox.
[09:38] <TeraDyne> andres1: correct
[09:38] <Contrast83> jhutchins_lt: I don't get where you're going
[09:38] <Kr4t05> andres1: Which did you originally install? Edgy, I'm assuming.
[09:39] <kooshi> nothing wrong with using a good feature from a (supposedly) bad app
[09:39] <jhutchins_lt> the feature list just keeps getting longer, the configuration is obscure as can be, and it still has bugs that are holdovers from Mosaic 1.x.
[09:40] <andres1> Kr4to5 i cant rember im looking on the help menu to see if it tellsme
[09:40] <andres1> kubuntu 7.04
[09:41] <andres1> i guess is edgy
[09:41] <BluesKaj> no it's feisty
[09:41] <andres1> well it looks  its feisty
[09:41] <andres1> yeah
[09:42] <Ayabara> I formatted an external drive as hfs+ in kubuntu, but os x says "The disk you inserted was not readable by this computer" when I turn it on. Any advice?
[09:43] <frank__> he guys
[09:44] <BluesKaj> wrong filesystem Ayabara ...kubuntu is ext2 or 3
[09:44] <kwikksilver> Hello..I have a problem installing an encrypted filesystem with debian-installer...anyone who give a hand?
[09:44] <andres1> OK i got the new source.list when i try to modified i t tells me i dont have accesme i dont have permition
[09:45] <soc> hi, does someone know when there will be an updated repo with kde 4 alpha 2 at kubuntu.org?
[09:45] <Ayabara> BluesKaj, forgot to mention that I did it because I have an Ubuntu laptop and a MacBook Pro
[09:45] <kwikksilver> I first install a software RAID5, then create a LVM, then I would like to have the partitions in the LV to be encrypted.
[09:45] <Ayabara> and need to use the drives on both computers
[09:45] <K`zan> Hi Folks, I've screwed up X :-(.  I installed the binary drivers from nvidia and now when I boot, it doesn't come up in X.  I have to remove and reinstall the nvidia module and restart kdm to get up.  I tried installing nvidia-glx (didn't know about it) but that didn't change anything.  Some what I can fix this?  TMIA!
[09:45] <BluesKaj> andres1, alt+f2 then type' kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list '
[09:46] <kwikksilver> From the installation manual, this seems trivial, except I dont have the "Physical volume for encryption" option when I select "use as:"
[09:47] <kwikksilver> Any ideas?
[09:48] <BluesKaj> K`zan, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , then choose the vesa or nvidia generic driver , that will get X back and you can try again from there
[09:50] <K`zan> BluesKaj: Will give that a shot, thank you Sir!
[09:50] <kwikksilver> No one uses encrypted filesystem here? ;_;
[09:50] <K`zan> I sure don't :-)
[09:50] <BluesKaj> kwikksilver,we don't get many questions about encrypted volumes
[09:50] <sam123> BluesKaj ive got alsa set up perfectly now however i still have one problem. Running amarok and guild wars under cedega at the same time makes both sounds cackly and slow
[09:50] <kwikksilver> I see...
[09:50] <andres1> may i ask why does the source.list gets change or mixes edgy with feisty
[09:51] <kwikksilver> Well, I just find it a bit strange that the manual makes it seem so straight-forward and then the options dont even exist there for me...
[09:51] <sam123> BluesKaj i think it may be because i havent chosen a CTL Device for cedega but i dont know what to put. Ive put swmix as my PCM Device.
[09:51] <BluesKaj> sam123, sorry i'm not a gamer so i listen to one thing ata time
[09:51] <MarcC> is there a way to make adept or synaptic adapt to bad spelling in searches? My brother frequently misspells words so he thinks the software he wants isn't available
[09:52] <jhutchins_lt> sam123: Why would you want to run both amarok and a game at the same time?
[09:52] <vzduch> MarcC: teach your brother to spell correctly :)
[09:52] <sam123> jhutchins_lt so that i can listen to my music and the ingame sounds at the same time.
[09:52] <jhutchins_lt> sam123: Since you're running under cedega, you've already got the load of the game multiplied by cedega, then you try to run amarok too, that's a lot of load.
[09:52] <MarcC> vzduch: it's a mental disability, tbh
[09:53] <Ayabara> can Ubuntu write to hfs drives?
[09:53] <sam123> jhutchins_lt and compiz fusion too ;)
[09:53] <K`zan> what is the command to run a kde app as root  kdesu?
[09:53] <jhutchins_lt> sam123: I'd try running something lighter, like just xine or a cli player.
[09:53] <jhutchins_lt> sam123: Do you smell something burning?
[09:53] <sam123> jhutchins_lt nope
[09:54] <jhutchins_lt> sam123: It's your wallet.
[09:54] <BluesKaj> in konqueror K`zan , yes
[09:54] <sam123> jhutchins_lt what should i choose as my CTL Device?
[09:54] <sam123> jhutchins_lt what do you mean my wallets burning?
[09:54] <Guilty_as_Sin> what is the pre-defined screen name in kubuntu?   Trying to set up synergy is all
[09:54] <jhutchins_lt> sam123: No idea, I think that might be a cedega question.
[09:54] <K`zan> BluesKaj: Thanks again !
[09:54] <jhutchins_lt> sam123: Lots of CPU waste.
[09:55] <Guilty_as_Sin> anyone?
[09:55] <sam123> jhutchins_lt na my cpu load is about 0.5
[09:55] <dale> What package can i install to play dvix?
[09:55] <sam123> jhutchins_lt and dropping
[09:56] <jhutchins_lt> sam123: Actually, it's more GPU load, but anyway.
[09:56] <Guilty_as_Sin> isn't it ubuntu as well?
[09:56] <jhutchins_lt> sam123: I would say that the game is not designed to play nicely with the linux sound system.
[09:56] <sam123> jhutchins_lt yep definately gpu load
[09:56] <dale> anyone?
[09:56] <osh_> !kitchensync
[09:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kitchensync - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:56] <BluesKaj> !dvix
[09:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:56] <K-Ryan> !divx
[09:56] <osh_> !anything
[09:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:56] <ubotu> So, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.
[09:56] <BluesKaj> dale ffmpeg
[09:56] <BluesKaj> !ffmpeg
[09:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ffmpeg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:57] <K-Ryan> !botabuse
[09:57] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[09:57] <Ryaren> Sby know How can I switch TwinView mode? I just can play a game when TwinView is Disabled, but I can only watch movie if TwinView is enabled...
[09:57] <osh_> !sync
[09:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sync - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:57] <Guilty_as_Sin> has anyonehere  ever used synergy b4?
[09:58] <jhutchins_lt> !info synergy
[09:58] <BluesKaj> dale VLC will play divx
[09:58] <ubotu> synergy: Share mouse, keyboard and clipboard over the network. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.1-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 593 kB, installed size 1460 kB
[09:58] <BluesKaj> !divx
[09:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:58] <Guilty_as_Sin> just a quick questionyes
[09:58] <K-Ryan> That's cool
[09:58] <BluesKaj> gotta get the spelling right for those codecs and bots :)
[09:58] <Guilty_as_Sin> yes, it will be great..  just used the repos to install..  having a lil trouble setting up the server is all
[09:59] <osh_> synergy is way cool. I've used it over 3 different os'es. Win/Irix/Linux. Works great. =)
[10:00] <Guilty_as_Sin> I'm using quick synergy to set it up..  can't seem to get it to work (PEBKAC)
[10:00] <blizzzek> how do i get a ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf
[10:00] <blizzzek> ?
[10:01] <bLooDz> blizzzek from home directry i hope ;p
[10:01] <r00t_> whatdoes it mean if a users name is shadowed out on the user list in konversation
[10:02] <vzduch> r00t_: away
[10:02] <blizzzek> bLooDz: i would not ask if it is there
[10:02] <K-Ryan> They're idle
[10:02] <K-Ryan> Err, away
[10:02] <bLooDz> blizzzek then sowwy i don't know :(
[10:03] <jhutchins_lt> r00t_: /away <reason>
[10:03] <jhutchins_lt> r00t_: like this
[10:03] <Contrast83> Does anyone know where the default .directory file is kept, or if there's no such thing, what file determines what goes into every new .directory file?
[10:07] <vzduch> to my knowledge, .directory files are for the icons in e.g. Konqueror
[10:08] <Contrast83> vzduch: Well, they also determine whether to show hidden files, but they're actually specific to Konqueror? I didn't know that
[10:08] <vzduch> Contrast83: no, they're not Konq-specific.. read again :)
[10:08] <Contrast83> Oh, whoops. Heh, sorry
[10:09] <Contrast83> vzduch: There has to be a default .directory somewhere that's getting copied everytime a new directory's created though, right? Either that, or it's hardcoded somewhere up the line?
[10:10] <jhutchins_lt> They actually work in windows as well.
[10:10] <jhutchins_lt> Contrast83: Usually there's only a .directory if some special property has been applied to the folder.
[10:10] <Contrast83> Isn't it "thumbsdb" in Windows though?
[10:11] <vzduch> Contrast83: you're assuming that you have a .directory file in every dir.. which is not the case; you can easily find that out
[10:11] <jhutchins_lt> Contrast83: I haven't really used windows since NT4, but 95-nt4 respected .directory.
[10:11] <Contrast83> vzduch: Just discovered that actually. Sorry
[10:12] <vzduch> Windoze uses a file called desktop.ini to modify the icon and perhaps (I don't know) behaviour of directories
[10:12] <jhutchins_lt> Which is actually a surprizingly smart approach, especially given how early it was adopted.
[10:12] <Contrast83> I'm guessing .directory is an old Unix standard?
[10:13] <jhutchins_lt> Contrast83: Not that I know of, it uses the same format as a DOS config file.
[10:13] <Contrast83> Oh ok
[10:14] <jhutchins_lt> Both the WIMP interface and the heirarchical filesystem are post-DOS ideas - or at least general adoption of them is.
[10:16] <nuxil> Hi all.. can anyone answer me why there is no host.allow and host.deny ? and can i make them files and they will do there job? i am using feisty!
[10:17] <jhutchins_lt> nuxil: Because most programs that are used these days have other methods of configuring those restrictions.
[10:17] <jhutchins_lt> nuxil: I think they date back to rsh and/or ftp.
[10:18] <jhutchins_lt> nuxil: But yes, you can create them and some programs will respect them.  What are you trying to configure?
[10:18] <Contrast83> Is it possible to use "cp" to copy the source to multiple destinations?
[10:19] <root__> how do i give a .run script execute permissions?
[10:20] <Contrast83> root__: Open a terminal, chmod a+x /path/to/script
[10:20] <Contrast83> root__: Or bring up its properties in Konqueror and check "Is executable" under the Permissions tab
[10:23] <nuxil> jhutchins_lt basicly i want to bloc host..
[10:23] <nuxil> but i got iptables doing it..
[10:23] <nuxil> so i guess its unessesary
[10:25] <manolo> hola
[10:27] <moshea> hi all, is there a command-line where I can see the make/model of my HDDs ?
[10:28] <SlimeyPete> hdparm might do it. Type "man hdparm" to see the manual.
[10:28] <manolo> hola
[10:29] <SlimeyPete> hullo.
[10:29] <moshea> SlimeyPete: I'll try that, thanks
[10:30] <moshea> SlimeyPete: hm, that's a bit involved .... basically I just need to figure if a HDD is in a RAID or not
[10:31] <rodrigo> hello guys
[10:40] <moshea> heh, how to reply to the prompt from mdadm (MDMA ? nah, silly joke) during the upgrade from Edgy to Feisty ?
[10:41] <zombielion> i have a philips radio fw-C577  it connects to the pc via usb. my question is i dont see any linux drivers for it. and the windows drivers wont install it tells me to coonect it but it is already connected wine must not emulate everything it needs to look at. does anyone have this system or does anyone have any ideas
[10:42] <SlimeyPete> you can't install drivers via wine, afaik. Wine doesn't work at such a low level.
[10:42] <zombielion> is there anything i can do
[10:43] <moshea> it offers "all" (as in "start all RAID drives") ...
[10:43] <SlimeyPete> zombielion: not sure. Try googling to see if there are any open-source drivers available.
[10:44] <moshea> but I read in a forum that if you reply "all" and you do NOT have a RAID array, your machine won't start up again
[10:44] <jhutchins> zombielion: The problem is that if you were to install the windows drivers with wine, they'd be installed to wine, not to the linux system.
[10:45] <jhutchins> zombielion: There are things like madwifi and ndiswrapper that work with some windows-only devices, but those are mostly for networking.
[10:46] <jhutchins> zombielion: You'd need software to do whatever it is windows does with the thing anyway.
[10:47] <zombielion> i didnt find anything and i dont have no idea what the operationg system does for the radio all i know is you connect the usb and it is like a big speaker. what software could i use
[10:47] <K`zan> BluesKaj: What was the dpkg -reconfigure xorg thing again - it hung up and I can't recover the command :-(
[10:48] <NickPresta> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, K`zan
[10:48] <K`zan> NickPresta: Thank you Sir!
[10:48] <NickPresta> =)
[10:48] <jhutchins> zombielion: Well, it might appear as a sound device.  What does the system see when you connect it?
[10:49] <jhutchins> zombielion: What does lsusb say?
[10:50] <zombielion> it didnt do anything. i mean i didnt restart or nothing with it turned on but when i connected it with it turned onit didnt nothing winxp would have looked up the drivers and installed. i think that is how winxp looks at it as an audio device
[10:50] <zombielion> how do i use isusb
[10:50] <K`zan> Sigh, the reconfigure just hangs, time to wipe/reinstall again?
[10:50] <NickPresta> K`zan, have you tried to manually configure your xorg.conf file?
[10:50] <NickPresta> K`zan, what seems to be the problem?
[10:51] <K`zan> NickPresta: No, but I saved the original, perhaps replacing the current one with that?
[10:51] <zombielion> i am really knew i dont even know what do do with tar files i just try to find deb files so just to let you know
[10:51] <jhutchins> zombielion: Lsusb (lowercase though) in console.
[10:52] <NickPresta> K`zan, you could try replacing your original, yeah
[10:52] <K`zan> NickPresta: Did, will see if that works and THEN try the nvidia-glx.  The nv driver is abysmally slow :-(.
[10:53] <NickPresta> K`zan, oh, you're having trouble with nvidia drivers?
[10:53] <NickPresta> V_V
[10:53] <jhutchins> zombielion: There are hints it works with linux.
[10:54] <jhutchins> zombielion: You can also look at /var/log/messages right after you plug it in, or dmesg
[10:54] <zombielion> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000     Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000     Bus 001 Device 006: ID 0471:0110 Philips     Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04f2:0230 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd     Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000       this is what it tells me
[10:54] <zombielion> so it sees it
[10:55] <zombielion> i think the chicony is my wireless keyboard
[10:55] <zombielion> what am i looking for if i dmesg
[10:56] <rodrigo> hi guys
[10:57] <K`zan> NickPresta: Yes, I was.  I was not aware of the nvidia-glx in the repository and installed the one downloaded from Nvidia.  Had to remove and reinstall the nvidia module and restart kdm to get into X every time I booted.
[10:57] <rodrigo> any one of you can tell how can I transfer files trough one disk that have kubuntu and other wich has windows I can't open the hard disk trough kubuntu
[10:57] <jhutchins> zombielion: Well, there it is: Bus 001 Device 006: ID 0471:0110 Philips
[10:57] <zombielion> ok i dmesg it and it tells me some stuff i guess i mean i can see where it sees it but i dont know what it means something about USB HID v1.00 Device and some other things
[10:57] <jhutchins> !pastebin
[10:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:58] <zombielion> [ 1867.496000]  input: Philips UAC3553B as /class/input/input12
[10:58] <zombielion> that is from the dmesg
[10:58] <jhutchins> Interesting.
[10:58] <jhutchins> zombielion: Looks like it's identified it as an input device.
[10:58] <K`zan> NickPresta: Now that it is working again, I'll try installing the nvidia-glx package.
[10:58] <rodrigo> channel list/
[10:59] <jhutchins> zombielion: Which is counterintuitive, I would have thought output...
[10:59] <zombielion> do you need to know everyhting that dmesg said about it. is there anything i can do
[10:59] <jhutchins> zombielion: http://philips.com
[11:00] <jhutchins> zombielion: 1-888-744-5477 in the U.S.
[11:00] <zombielion> well it is an output I dont know it really doesnt like let the radio play on the pc from the radio so it should be output i dont know
[11:00] <zombielion> They dont support linux
[11:00] <jhutchins> zombielion: What about mac?
[11:01] <zombielion> That is what i read on a thread the guy had mandrake tho but he said they dont support linux
[11:01] <zombielion> i dont think so
[11:01] <zombielion> i think 98 2000 and xp
[11:01] <jhutchins> Every time somebody calls them and says "how do I get this to work with linux", we're one step closer to getting support.
[11:01] <zombielion> well i will give it a try
[11:04] <K`zan> NickPresta: Sigh, nvidia-glx didn't do it either - had to restore the original xorg.conf to get back :-(.  How does one install the nvidia propritary drivers and not have to go through all that to get X up every time?
[11:06] <zombielion> well i called the guy said he didnt see anything but sounded like he didnt even know what linux was. he told me to look in the user manual but i doubt it has antyhing to say
[11:06] <jhutchins> Well, there ya go, philips isn't known for quality customer support, but it was worth a shot and it should get logged.
[11:08] <zombielion> is there not anything else i can do without being some master programer or somthing. linux sees it i know. and it knows it is philips surly there is somthing i can do
[11:08] <jhutchins> zombielion: I dunno, I would expect that if you could get linux to see it as a sound device, that might work, but I'm not sure where you'd start.
[11:08] <jhutchins> zombielion: Google.
[11:08] <NickPresta> K`zan, I don't know what else to say. Which card do you have? For me, `sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx` worked just fine.
[11:09] <vzduch> K`zan: what's the error msg when stopping X ('sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop') and restarting it by hand ('startx')?
[11:09] <K`zan> NickPresta: Dunno, looks like something is hosed big time again, wipe/reinstall again :-(.  Had more problems with feisty than I have *ever* had with linux :-(.
[11:10] <NickPresta> K`zan, I'm sure reinstallation isn't needed.
[11:10] <brian__> can someone help me with mounting a slave during boot
[11:10] <jhutchins> zombielion: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-218640.html
[11:10] <zombielion> jhutchins: how should i google it the other guy that told me to google it i looked up fw-c577 open source drivers
[11:10] <K`zan> vzduch: no errors, hangs on startup with the nvidia drivers requiring me to :  rmmod nvidia ; modprobe nvidia ; /etc/init.d/kdm restart.
[11:10] <brian__> i have done everything in the wiki and nothing works
[11:11] <brian__> I even ran a script that was said to work but it did not
[11:12] <K`zan> NickPresta: I'd sure like to think so :-).  Been working on this for 3 days now and it works SLOWLY with the nv driver (count of 3-4 for the KMenu to come up with nv, instantaneous with the nvidia drivers).
[11:12] <zander__> help me pls
[11:13] <K`zan> I think I'll quit back to console and try the nvidia-glx one more time before I start over.
[11:13] <zombielion> ok.... so what is that saying go to mandrake
[11:13] <zander__> dont know but i installed edubuntu over my kubuntu
[11:13] <NickPresta> !ask | zander__
[11:13] <ubotu> zander__: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:13] <brian__> whats up zander
[11:13] <zander__> i want my kubuntu back
[11:13] <brian__> during login choose the session
[11:13] <zander__> what sesssion?
[11:14] <zombielion> the last post said it worked in edgy is this a prog UAC3553B can i download it somewhere
[11:14] <zander__> i want my kubuntu >.<
[11:14] <brian__> it is in the lower right hand section
[11:14] <brian__> of the screen
[11:14] <brian__> you boot to a login screen right?
[11:14] <zander__> yes
[11:14] <zombielion> zander that sucks i didnt the same thing and didnt know what the hell to to this was just right after i fresh installed kubuntu so i just reinstalled
[11:15] <brian__> on the bottom of the screen there are two bars one on the left and one on the right
[11:15] <zander__> at the login?
[11:15] <brian__> the one on the left is language and the one on the right is session
[11:15] <zander__> should i go look?
[11:15] <brian__> yes
[11:15] <zander__> ok see ya
[11:15] <brian__> what version of ubuntu are you using
[11:15] <brian__> goodluck
[11:16] <brian__> did that help you as well zombielion?
[11:17] <Untrax-> Hi
[11:17] <zander__> yes it work
[11:17] <Untrax-> Guys
[11:17] <zander__> didn saw that there are some other sessions^^
[11:17] <Untrax-> How I Can Open Terminal Server?
[11:17] <brian__> you can also install diff desktops and change them in session
[11:17] <zombielion> brian__: i just did a fresh install i dint know what to do
[11:18] <zander__> yes iam new so i need some help^^
[11:18] <brian__> thats ok me too
[11:18] <zombielion> how do i install tar files
[11:18] <Untrax-> All Here
[11:18] <Untrax-> Is Shit !
[11:18] <jhutchins> !build | zombielion
[11:18] <Untrax-> I Kidding
[11:18] <ubotu> zombielion: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:18] <zander__> hey brian do you have icq or something
[11:19] <Untrax-> !build | zombileion
[11:19] <ubotu> zombileion: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:19] <zander__> i need some one like you^^
[11:19] <zander__> iam realy fresh here
[11:19] <K`zan> NickPresta: No luck :-(.  Either live with manually starting X with the nvidia drivers or suffer through the SLOW nv stuff or reinstall again.  nvidia-glx hangs at the reconfigure every time requiring you to kill the processes to get the term back.  Sigh.  Thanks for the help, appreciate your efforts.
[11:19] <zombielion> thanx
[11:19] <Untrax-> Tell Me
[11:19] <zander__> i have kubuntu since yesterday
[11:19] <brian__> http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/
[11:19] <Untrax-> How I Can Change My Nick Color
[11:19] <nuxil> big QUESTION? i am currently running superkaramba with three themes on the desktop, "amarok-stuff clock and a fortune thingy" however... when i go to the home dir of thise files. the dir is empty.: /home/nuxil/.kde/share/apps/superkaramba i tryed do a ls -la on the dir too.. but its shows up empty there to. are them files installed under another location?
[11:19] <brian__> this will help install everything zombielion
[11:20] <brian__> http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/
[11:20] <zombielion> thanx
[11:20] <brian__> how long have you used linux zander?
[11:20] <nicotin_e> media
[11:20] <zander__> since yesterday xD
[11:20] <jhutchins> nuxil: They may be installed system wide.
[11:21] <brian__> you will enjoy it
[11:21] <nicotin_e> isn't work.... sad..
[11:21] <nuxil> jhutchins, but i installed thouse themes as a user
[11:21] <zander__> iam fast in learning
[11:21] <brian__> look into gdesklets
[11:21] <zombielion> well i guess i will try and see what i can do with this radio that is stupid that philips is like that thanks jhutchins
[11:21] <jhutchins> nuxil: How did you install them?
[11:21] <zander__> you see iam in the web xD
[11:21] <brian__> nice tool
[11:21] <nuxil> jhutchins, as this user using superkaramba
[11:21] <nuxil> New stuff button :p
[11:22] <brian__> no sorry no icq
[11:22] <jhutchins> nuxil: try "locate <somthing>" where <somethng> is the theme name.
[11:23] <nuxil> jhutchins, but the i dont know the name of the themes.. and the themes usaly have some weird name.. starting with a number
[11:24] <brian__> hey zander look me up in kopete
[11:24] <brian__> brnbock@aol.com
[11:24] <nicotin_e> finally...... finished installation)))
[11:24] <Untrax-> dasd
[11:24] <nuxil> jhutchins, the weirdest thing is that superkaramba wount let me unistall them.. the is no uninstall button ther as it should be
[11:24] <nicotin_e> Untrax-: connection test?))
[11:25] <nicotin_e> wow..
[11:27] <vzduch> ah, them lame scripts ;)
[11:28] <nicotin_e> yeah... simple and pretty))
[11:28] <brian__> you still there zander
[11:28] <zander__> ehm now
[11:28] <zander__> xd
[11:28] <zander__> xD
[11:29] <zander__> do you anything aelse like an instant managaer xD
[11:29] <zander__> msn?
[11:29] <brian__> look me up on kopete brnbock@aol.com
[11:29] <nicotin_e> what a fine system.. this kubuntu...
[11:29] <nicotin_e> !kernel
[11:29] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[11:30] <zander__> ok will see
[11:30] <brian__> do you have a messenger that you use?
[11:31] <zander__> i have icq and msn xD
[11:32] <zander__> brnbock@aol.com <-- for what?
[11:32] <brian__> kopete
[11:32] <zander__> using kopete fo msn and hmm i thin gaimp or so for icq
[11:32] <brian__> it is in the K menu under internet
[11:32] <vzduch> brian__: which protocol, that was the question
[11:33] <bLiSS> hola
[11:33] <vzduch> zander__: you can use Kopete for ICQ as well.. file transfer won't work there either :>
[11:35] <brian__> zander what is you msn screen name or the email you use to login?
[11:35] <rustalot> how do I show someone what kubuntu looks like without a live cd or my computer?
[11:35] <zander__> mersad@wudu.de
[11:35] <brian__> snapshot
[11:35] <vzduch> rustalot: screenshots
[11:35] <zander__> thats my login name
[11:35] <zander__> brnbock@aol.com is that msn?
[11:35] <Rumpa> rustalot: with screenshots
[11:36] <brian__> mersad@wudu.de
[11:36] <zander__> i added you in msn
[11:36] <rustalot> vzduch, Rumpa: is there some site with lots of screenshots that other people took?
[11:37] <nuxil> how can i extract a *skz file "superkaramba file"
[11:37] <vzduch> rustalot: dunno
[11:37] <rustalot> nuxil: start superkaramba & open it with superkaramba
[11:37] <nicotin_e> sucks... nuxil: i'am not sure, that you really need to extract it...
[11:38] <nicotin_e> nuxil: "sucks" is not for you)) sorry)
[11:39] <nuxil> rustalot no not like that
[11:39] <zander__> brian are you online?
[11:40] <rustalot> nuxil: what are you trying to do?
[11:40] <brian__> working on it having some trouble with my account
[11:40] <nuxil> what do you think im trying to do?
[11:40] <zander__> ok^^
[11:40] <nuxil> indeed :p
[11:41] <nicotin_e> a guess skz is simple tar.gz (or tbz) but only with special extension..
[11:41] <Rumpa> rustalot: for starters check out http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=786&slide=4
[11:41] <nicotin_e> nuxil: do you have Arc?
[11:41] <nuxil> yes
[11:42] <nicotin_e> nuxil: try to open *skz with Arc..
[11:42] <nicotin_e> nuxil: or in Midnight commander..
[11:42] <nuxil> alright
[11:42] <nuxil> :)
[11:46] <nicotin_e> did somebody try to recompile a kernel?
[11:47] <vzduch> nicotin_e: long since.. I remember baking a 2.6.3 when most distros still shipped 2.4 kernels
[11:48] <Rumpa> nicotin_e: a long time ago. Why do you need to compile a custom kernel?
[11:48] <nicotin_e> vzduch: existing system (I have running) has 2.6.10 kernel.. I'm trying to "make menuconfig" and reseive an error..
[11:48] <nicotin_e> error in kernel... funny things...))
[11:49] <nuxil> nicotin_e, so if arc x gives me nothing valid.. that means its encrypted using the g parameter?
[11:49] <nicotin_e> how it can be, i don't now...
[11:49] <vzduch> nicotin_e: Breezy?
[11:49] <nicotin_e> nuxil: have you already tried MC?
[11:50] <Rumpa> nuxil: why are you trying to open *.skz?
[11:50] <nicotin_e> vzduch: it says , that he is EDGY))
[11:51] <vzduch> o0
[11:51] <vzduch> if I'm not totally off, Edgy shipped w/ a 2.6.16
[11:52] <nicotin_e> vzduch: some ukrainians say.. why are you looking? i have confused myself...
[11:53] <nicotin_e> so I type "uname -a"
[11:53] <feierfox> hi
[11:53] <nicotin_e> and receive Linux komalie 2.6.10-10-generic #2 SMP Fri Oct 13 18:45:35 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:53] <feierfox> is our "guru" mark just visiting #ubuntu?
[11:54] <vzduch> feierfox: what do you celebrate? :D
[11:55] <nicotin_e> ...eeee... let it be.... if we have 2.6.10... than it have to be like this.. neertheless i don't have some extranew hardware..
[11:55] <nicotin_e> but it's a little pity..
[11:55] <vzduch> Linux zalle 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Thu Jun 7 20:19:32 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:57] <nicotin_e> vzduch: were do you get this)) really, i want 2.6.20 toooo))
[11:57] <nicotin_e> were = where
[11:58] <TeraDyne> nicotin_e: You using Fiesty?
[11:58] <feierfox> 6.20? ooold... 22 id up-to-date guys!!
[11:58] <vzduch> nicotin_e: it's in Feisty
[11:58] <feierfox> will 22 come in gutsy?
[11:58] <TeraDyne> BTW > Linux rescuenet 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Thu Jun 7 20:19:32 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:58] <vzduch> feierfox: we know.. you're free to build a pkg ;)
[11:58] <nicotin_e> TeraDyne: no, i have edgy..
[11:59] <TeraDyne> nicotin_e: You should upgrade to Fiesty
[11:59] <nicotin_e> vzduch, TeraDyne: i will not be able to install new kernel, if i will not upgrade to fiesty fawn?
[11:59] <vzduch> nicotin_e: what does a 'apt-cache showpkg linux-image-2.6.10-10-generic' show as to where it's from?
[11:59] <K`zan> NickPresta: Found a solution!  Put the following into /etc/rc.local:  /sbin/rmmod nvidia ; /sbin/modprobe nvidia ; /etc/init.d/kdm restart - takes a bit longer to come up and the screens are briefly confusing, but it works!  Thanks again!
[12:00] <nicotin_e> vzduch: i will check now...
[12:00] <K`zan> NickPresta: Comming straight up the Xorg log reports no screens (same xorg.conf as with nv with the exception of nvidia rather than nv).  No idea, but this kluge works :-).
[12:01] <nicotin_e> vzduch: and as we expect... W: Unable to locate package linux-image-2.6.10-10-generic..
[12:02] <vzduch> nicotin_e: then your 'uname -a' is lying
[12:02] <nicotin_e> but he offers linux image version 2.6.17..
[12:02] <vzduch> could it be that you upgraded from Breezy to Edgy or something?
[12:02] <nicotin_e> vzduch: i should give anything to man, that will explain me what the hell is that..
[12:03] <nicotin_e> aa.... we have 1:03 AM.... time to rest..
[12:03] <nicotin_e> by to everyone..
[12:04] <vzduch> @now berlin
[12:04] <ubotu> Current time in Europe/Berlin: July 10 2007, 00:04:02 - Next meeting: Kernel Team in 16 hours 55 minutes
[12:05] <feierfox> fine... my firefox crashed ;/
[12:05] <zander__> bb ppls