[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #124802 in launchpad ""Show related bugs" points to user's overview page" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/124802
[12:45] <ubotu> New bug: #124804 in soyuz "No more compile log in build machine details" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/124804
[01:00] <mpt> Gooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!
[01:00] <Fujitsu> Hi mpt.
[01:02] <mpt> hi :-)
[01:03] <thumper> morning mpt
[01:07] <mpt> thumper, 0 here, I suppose you can top that though
[01:07] <mpt> (or bottom that)
[01:07] <thumper> not sure what it is outside now
[01:07] <thumper> but was -4 at the airport when I was listening to the radio over breakfast
[01:15] <ubotu> New bug: #124812 in malone ""No similar bugs were found" is odd as an alert" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/124812
[01:20] <ubotu> New bug: #124813 in soyuz "Links in the queue would be nice" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/124813
[05:42] <tristanbob_> can anyone register a project in launchpad or should the developers of that project be the ones doing it?
[05:52] <thumper> tristanbob_: anyone can register a project in launchpad
[05:53] <thumper> tristanbob_: although if you are not the developers of the project there is a team that you can transfer the project ownership to
[05:56] <tristanbob_> thumper: excellent!  then I think I will register the project.  Perhaps once the developers see how it all works they may use some of the applications
[05:57] <tristanbob_> thumper: what team is that?
[05:57] <thumper> thumper: I went looking for it, but didn't find it just now.
[05:58] <thumper> tristanbob_: https://launchpad.net/~registry
[06:15] <tristanbob_> thumper: thanks for the info
[06:15] <thumper> tristanbob_: np
[09:40] <Fujitsu> Gladiator: Can you please turn that script off?
[09:43] <carlos> morning
[09:54] <Gladiator> morning carlos 
[11:47] <Nafallo> Gladiator: please try to avoid those kind of scripts in public channel were people are likely to get annoyed at them. Thanks in advance :-).
[11:48] <Nafallo> I scared him off :-/.
[12:16] <shawarma> Um... dogfood seems to be acting.. funny. 
[12:16] <shawarma> build details pages gives me OOPS's, my uploads are not getting built..
[12:17] <shawarma> Trying to access the actual ppa's give me proxy errors.
[12:24] <shawarma> I can access the ppa now.
[12:26] <shawarma> Ah, i may have tried it over https before. Sorry. The OOPS's are still there, though.
[01:28] <statik> hello world
[01:36] <jtv> statik: syntax error in line 1: 'hello'
[01:36] <statik> jtv: :)
[01:37] <jtv> Hiya skipper!  It looks like you're trying to write a "hello world" program.  Would you like me to:
[01:37] <jtv>  * Alert Microsoft's legal department to a potential patent violation
[01:37] <jtv>  * Help you complete the program in Visual Basic for Deprecations
[01:37] <jtv>  * Blow up for no apparent reason
[01:37] <statik> ooh, I'll take the blow up option, I like debuggers
[01:37] <jtv>  * Suggest alternatives in a forgotten LISP dialect?
[01:37] <jtv>  * Drive you to insanity
[01:39] <jtv> An unexpected error has occurred in DLLblowup32.EXE.  The memory location "next door" could not be "hello world."  Click Cancel to continue, or OK to abort.
[02:09] <Fujitsu> mrevell: Doesn't edge run on an alternate database?
[02:16] <mrevell> Fujitsu: Edge runs on the production database.
[02:17] <Fujitsu> mrevell: Ah, I thought otherwise.
[02:18] <mrevell> Fujitsu: Nah, don't worry: you'll be able to use Launchpad as normal. If you come across a problem, you can always hit the "Cancel the redirect for 2 hours" button.
[02:18] <Fujitsu> Noted.
[02:18] <Fujitsu> Good to see the pre-release testing this release.
[02:20] <kiko-afk> mrevell, hmmm, we should have underlined that it used the production db.
[02:20] <mrevell> kiko-afk: Yeah, agreed.
[02:20] <Fujitsu> I seem to recall when beta was originally proposed it wasn't going to run on production, so I was afraid a similar thing would happen here.
[02:20] <Hobbsee> hiya kiko-afk, mrevell, Fujitsu 
[02:21] <Fujitsu> Hi Hobbsee, kiko-afk.
[02:21] <mrevell> hi Hobbsee. 
[02:21] <mrevell> right, I'm off to get a spot of lunch, back in a bit
[02:40] <beuno> r/ponts/points
[02:40] <kiko-afk> Fujitsu, no, beta was always meant to run on production :)
[02:41] <Hobbsee> nice!
[02:42] <Hobbsee> and why are we beta-onlying for 1 day?
[02:48] <mrevell> beuno: hey
[02:48] <Hobbsee> hi mrevell 
[02:49] <mrevell> Hobbsee: Hey
[02:49] <beuno> hello mrevell  :D
[02:49] <Hobbsee> mrevell: why are we only being redirected to the beta for 1 day?  does beta move to production on the next day?
[02:51] <mrevell> Hobbsee: Well, this is the first time that we've conducted a beta test in this particular way. Previously, we enabled one particular feature on beta.launchpad.net, whereas this time we're redirecting beta test team members to the latest Launchpad code.
[02:52] <mrevell> Hobbsee: So, rather than looking mostly for people's feedback on a new feature, we're more testing the performance of the code, which requires less time.
[02:52] <Hobbsee> mrevell: right
[02:52] <mrevell> Hobbsee: The next time we'll probably redirect for longer.
[02:52] <Hobbsee> oh right.  so are you actually looking for feedback on the features too? 
[02:53] <mrevell> Hobbsee: Yeah, but the most useful thing you guys can do for us this time is simple to use Launchpad as usual.
[02:54] <Hobbsee> mrevell: fair enough
[02:55] <mrevell> Hobbsee: So, if something's regressed or you spot any other kind of problem, filing a bug would be very useful.
[02:55] <Hobbsee> mrevell: sure
[02:55] <mrevell> Hobbsee: thanks :)
[02:55] <kiko-afk> Hobbsee, we want to make you /real/ beta testers. :)
[02:55] <Hobbsee> kiko-afk: heh.
[02:55] <Hobbsee> kiko-afk: sounds like fun
[02:55] <Hobbsee> kiko-afk: only problem is - i cant even attempt to fix it if it's broken
[02:55] <kiko-afk> bugs? which bugs?
[02:56] <Hobbsee> various ones that i've reported on launchpad.
[02:56] <kiko-afk> you're reported bugs?
[02:56] <Hobbsee> of course
[02:59] <Hobbsee> kiko-afk: https://bugs.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/113451 would make me happy
[02:59] <Hobbsee> well, that fixed
[03:01] <kiko-afk> Hobbsee, hmm, what's the situation in which that would be useful?
[03:01] <Hobbsee> kiko-afk: in my particular case, searching bugs that ubuntu-universe-sponsors is subscribed to, within ubuntu.
[03:01] <Fujitsu> Rather than tasks open in Debian, or upstreams, or whatever.
[03:01] <Fujitsu> It's annoying having all those in the lists.
[03:02] <kiko-afk> Fujitsu, but.. I can see only one debian task 
[03:02] <Hobbsee> kiko-afk: you cant actually get a list like https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-universe-sponsors/ to show only ubuntu bits
[03:02] <kiko-afk> and that will be solved with a presentation bug that's open
[03:02] <Fujitsu> kiko-afk: At the moment, at least.
[03:02] <Hobbsee> kiko-afk: the rest have actually been fixed elsewhere i think.  it used to be 60+ non-ubuntu bugs in that list
[03:02] <kiko-afk> I see
[03:03] <Fujitsu> I think it's actually that somebody got annoyed and unsubscribed u-u-s from all of them.
[03:03] <Hobbsee> oh yes, taht's right...
[03:03] <kiko-afk> which might make sense anyway :)
[03:03] <Hobbsee> there were two of us, unsubscribing everything that wasnt actually a valid patch, was incomplete, etc
[03:04] <Hobbsee> kiko-afk: maybe.  but it's very long to do
[03:05] <Fujitsu> Another use case for that is no longer very important. Teams like motuscience had large sets of non-Ubuntu bugs, but we can now search by bug contact, so it is unnecessary in that particular case.
[03:07] <kiko-afk> right
[03:18] <Hobbsee> kiko-afk: looks like you've created some fun with that launchpad bugs thing on reporting bugs to other BTS'
[03:19] <kiko-afk> heh
[03:20] <kiko-afk> I'm holding mdz personally responsible for that!!!
[03:20] <Hobbsee> kiko-afk: actually, i dont think it'd be in teh foot.  i think it'd be in both legs, and at least one arm too.
[03:20] <Hobbsee> kiko-afk: heh.  not sure if mdz even knows about it.
[03:21] <Hobbsee> kiko-afk: Debian KDE extras team is...less than happy...with kubuntu.  with ubuntu as a whole, actually.
[03:21] <Hobbsee> so if you break that shoestring with your changes...
[03:26] <kiko-afk> it shouldn't be a problem, reall
[03:26] <kiko-afk> y
[03:26] <kiko-afk> we're just going to make it easier for you to report a bug upstream, if you want to
[03:26] <kiko-afk> it's likely to be restricted to a group of people (but I'm not sure who yet)
[03:26] <kiko-afk> we're still discussing it
[03:27] <jordi> Hobbsee: what's the issue?
[03:27] <Hobbsee> kiko-afk: true.  of course, some of the upstream people have been on our bugtracker, getting our bugs from there.
[03:28] <Hobbsee> kiko-afk: whether that line of logic helps at all, i dont know
[03:28] <jordi> Debian KDE people not wanting Ubuntu users to use the BTS re: KDE bugs, or all the contrary, KDE Debian people wanting bugs that affect debian as well  in the BTS, not bugzilla?
[03:28] <Hobbsee> ah yes, that was the bug that i wanted to see fixed...
[03:29] <Hobbsee> ah right
[03:29] <jordi> I'm a Debian *GNOME* maintainer ;)
[03:29] <Hobbsee> jordi: and a canonical employee, and involved in gnu, etc, it looks like
[03:29] <Hobbsee> yeah, i figured that much
[03:30] <jordi> not anymore
[03:30] <Hobbsee> jordi: anyway, this is Debian KDE people not wanting us to flood their bugtracker, and to not send our bugs to them without a massive filter first, to make sure it's not ubuntu specific
[03:31] <jordi> heh, interesting. I'm in #fedora-devel-
[03:31] <jordi> for some reason.
[03:31] <jordi> Hobbsee: *nod*
[03:31] <jordi> makes sense
[03:31] <Hobbsee> true
[03:32] <Hobbsee> yet we get blasted for not sending bugs upstream, etc, too.
[03:32] <Hobbsee> so in one way, we cant win :P
[03:34] <jordi> totally :)
[03:43] <fabbione> hello guys
[03:43] <fabbione> i am having issues to register a blueprint
[03:43] <fabbione> OOPS-555B2455
[03:43] <fabbione> can anybody please look at it while i still have the thingy in the browser cache?
[03:45] <matsubara> fabbione: oops is not yet available. I'll be able to check it out in ~10 min.
[03:45] <fabbione> ok thanks
[03:53] <matsubara> fabbione: bug 111799.
[03:54] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 111799 in blueprint "Blueprint name validation broken" [Medium,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111799 - Assigned to Jonathan Knowles (jsk)
[03:54] <matsubara> fabbione: workaround is to use a lower case name for the blueprint.
[04:14] <fabbione> matsubara: any news from the OOPS?
[04:15] <fabbione> oh
[04:15] <fabbione> sorry
[04:15] <matsubara> fabbione: :-)
[04:15] <fabbione> i had a little brain fart
[04:15] <fabbione> :)
[04:16] <fabbione> thanks man
[04:16] <matsubara> fabbione: you're welcome.
[05:20] <geser> cprov: Hi, are you the right person for asking questions about ppa?
[05:21] <cprov> geser: yup
[05:22] <geser> I'm trying to figure why a package doesn't build on the officials builds (but everything else) and want to use PPA for testing
[05:22] <geser> does PPA use the same buildd setup as the official ones?
[05:25] <cprov> geser: yes, they do, including the ogre-component (which you might be getting wrong because auto-override is not applied in PPA)
[05:26] <geser> cprov: are the build logs available somwhere?
[05:27] <cprov> geser: successfull & legit failures are available at https://dogfood.launchpad.net/+builds/rubidium/+history or https://dogfood.launchpad.net/+builds/selenium/+history
[05:28] <cprov> geser: but your build is probably 'givenback' so there is no log. Let me try to find it 
[05:29] <geser> it's ardour, rubidium lists is as depwait
[05:33] <cprov> geser: uhm, do it make sense to you ?
[05:34] <geser> not really
[05:35] <geser> I don't understand why it lists liblrdf0-dev as missing
[05:37] <geser> cprov: the missing packages are all in universe
[05:38] <geser> are the buildds only using main?
[05:38] <cprov> geser: yes, check the first 10 lines of the buildlog 
[05:39] <cprov> Attempting OGRE for main in build-339867-749187
[05:39] <cprov> RUN: /usr/share/launchpad-buildd/slavebin/override-sources-list ['override-sources-list', '339867-749187', 'deb http://ppa.dogfood.launchpad.net/geser/ubuntu gutsy main', 'deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy main']  Overriding sources.list in build-339867-749187 
[05:39] <Hobbsee> which you can override, though
[05:40] <cprov> geser: as I said, auto-overrides are not applied in PPA, you have to force it to Section: universe/devel (or so)
[05:41] <geser> in the source section in debian/control?
[05:42] <cprov> Hobbsee: I wouldn't call it override in PPA, it's more like 'to get it right in the upload' :) (although proper override system for PPAs is coming soon)
[05:42] <cprov> geser: yes
[05:42] <Hobbsee> cprov: i meant in the control file, actually.  was unclear
[05:42] <geser> will try it out
[06:51] <tristanbob> ok I registered on launchpad an open source project that I use
[06:52] <tristanbob> I thought lauchpad would somehow provide an "import" from their CVS
[12:13] <kiko> tristanbob: we do. tell me more about your project.