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| SeveredCross | tretle: Nope, not Jason Mewes, sorry to dissapoint. | 12:55 |
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| SeveredCross | Don't even know who Jason Mewes is. | 12:55 |
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| teratoma | i tried to install synaptic and i get this error: | 01:03 |
| teratoma | synaptic: Depends: libapt-inst-libc6.5-6-1.1 but it is not installable | 01:03 |
| teratoma | what did i do wrong ? | 01:03 |
| tretle | SeveredCross: http://uwadmnweb.uwyo.edu/concerts/images/jay%20and%20silent%20bob.jpg | 01:06 |
| SeveredCross | teratoma: Nothing. | 01:06 |
| SeveredCross | The apt package is broken. | 01:06 |
| SeveredCross | No, but I may have picked up that habit from seeing him in movies. | 01:06 |
| teratoma | a fixed version will eventually appear? | 01:07 |
| SeveredCross | Yes. | 01:07 |
| SeveredCross | It's uploaded to be built into launchpad, Hobbsee uploaded it earlier, just nobody's built it. | 01:07 |
| SeveredCross | I think OO.org is there for build, and that bloody piece of junk takes ages to build. | 01:07 |
| SeveredCross | So apt is waiting. | 01:07 |
| SeveredCross | dist-upgrade removed my Synaptic and shtuff, heh | 01:07 |
| teratoma | yeah. good thing no one uses apt and synaptic | 01:08 |
| thompa | !upgrade | 01:09 |
| ubotu | For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes | 01:09 |
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| SeveredCross | LOL. | 01:11 |
| SeveredCross | Yeah, apt is a bit broken. | 01:11 |
| SeveredCross | No worries, it'll get fixed soon, just keep doing apt-get upgrade :) | 01:11 |
| SeveredCross | You can monitor this page too: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/0.7.2ubuntu6 | 01:12 |
| stuporglu1 | Anyone else installed Gutsy on a Macbook? I wanted to confirm a minor problem with the installer. | 01:15 |
| tretle | if its the partitioner its a known bug | 01:16 |
| stuporglu1 | Yeah, it would hang after making changes, but when I used gparted to delete the partitions, then said to use existing free space, it worked fine. | 01:16 |
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| tretle | yeah | 01:17 |
| tretle | same with every system | 01:17 |
| tretle | the partitioner in the installer has craped out :D | 01:18 |
| stuporglu1 | ah, ok. Is there a bug for it on launchpad? I couldn't find it...I'm pretty new to launchpad | 01:18 |
| tretle | as far as i know it was asvertised as one of the known bugs when tribe 2 was released | 01:18 |
| stuporglu1 | ok | 01:18 |
| tretle | asvertised = advertised | 01:19 |
| tretle | should be fixed in tribe 3 hopefully | 01:19 |
| stuporglu1 | Sounds good. | 01:20 |
| tretle | does indeed | 01:20 |
| tretle | :) | 01:20 |
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| MugginsM | hrm, my attempts to get gutsy talking to a projector on my laptop have left me with main screen at 640x480 :( | 01:51 |
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| h1st0 | Are there any specs planned for adding compiz fusion to gusty? | 02:11 |
| RAOF | Yes, it's already there | 02:11 |
| RAOF | compiz-fusion-plugins-* | 02:12 |
| h1st0 | By default? | 02:16 |
| h1st0 | Like the desktop effects package? | 02:16 |
| RoC_MasterMind | Yes it's installed by default and will enable itself if your graphics card has 3d out of the box | 02:23 |
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| RoC_MasterMind | oh | 02:24 |
| RoC_MasterMind | I noticed on gutsty....I opened the update manager...it had a lot of updates...but strangely the ones for apt were unchecked..why? | 02:24 |
| RAOF | Dependency problems | 02:24 |
| RoC_MasterMind | Interesting. | 02:25 |
| MugginsM | libcurl3 and 4 are having fights, and lots of other packages are getting dragged into it | 02:25 |
| MugginsM | basically | 02:25 |
| RAOF | You can install those upgrades, but you lose aptitude, apport, ubuntu-desktop, etc :) | 02:25 |
| RoC_MasterMind | I see. | 02:25 |
| RoC_MasterMind | Yay! | 02:25 |
| RoC_MasterMind | That's the breakage I heard about..interesting that it makes them unchecked. | 02:25 |
| RAOF | Actually, its a libapt problem, isnt it? | 02:25 |
| tretle | so does that mean that after the libcurl4 package is uploaded then other packages will install correctly? | 02:28 |
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| tretle | hmmmmmmmmm.......200 cadbury's cream eggs :D | 02:31 |
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| Karark|away | opensource ATI drivers have seemed to improve :D | 03:11 |
| tretle | new release? | 03:11 |
| Karark|away | from 7.04 | 03:11 |
| Karark|away | just got my gutsy going | 03:11 |
| tretle | yeah... going to reinstall fresh now after I finish a few things up | 03:12 |
| Karark|away | i've yet to run into a bug in the 45min i've been up | 03:13 |
| Karark|away | anything i should watch out for? | 03:13 |
| tretle | think doing an upgrade broke more things then a fresh install, well from my experience with a fresh install more things seemed to work | 03:13 |
| tretle | well, i think my gutsy is broken for a reason | 03:13 |
| Karark|away | yea, i've still got 7.04 on another HDD, but doubt i'll go back to it | 03:14 |
| tretle | the upgrade crashed | 03:14 |
| Karark|away | damn | 03:14 |
| Karark|away | mine just updated smoothly | 03:14 |
| tretle | do u use gimmie | 03:14 |
| tretle | ? | 03:14 |
| Karark|away | no | 03:14 |
| Karark|away | never heard of it | 03:14 |
| tretle | hmmmm........ on the gimmie discussion I cant find any posts about gutsy | 03:15 |
| tretle | I installed it from the gutsy repo's | 03:15 |
| tretle | but it crashes on startup | 03:15 |
| Karark|away | hmm | 03:16 |
| tretle | http://www.beatniksoftware.com/gimmie/Main_Page | 03:16 |
| tretle | it might be included in gnome 3.0 | 03:16 |
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| Karark|away | looks neat | 03:17 |
| Karark|away | might have to give it a shot | 03:17 |
| tretle | tell me how it goes | 03:18 |
| tretle | i dont want to submit a bug without first finding out whether its actually a bug or not | 03:18 |
| tretle | :) | 03:18 |
| Karark|away | heh, right | 03:19 |
| Karark|away | crashes here, too | 03:19 |
| tretle | crud | 03:20 |
| tretle | :( | 03:20 |
| Karark|away | when running in term i get... ***MEMORY-WARNING***: gimmie[18074] : GSlice: g_thread_init() must be called before all other GLib functions; memory corruption due to late invocation of g_thread_init() has been detected; this program is likely to crash, leak or unexpectedly abort soon... | 03:20 |
| tretle | reporting it so | 03:20 |
| Karark|away | i will too | 03:20 |
| tretle | getting that same problem on a vast amount of applications | 03:21 |
| tretle | jokosher being another one | 03:21 |
| Karark|away | filing with gnome or ubuntu? | 03:21 |
| tretle | just use the bug reporting tool | 03:22 |
| Karark|away | right, i did, went to gnome | 03:22 |
| tretle | bugzilla | 03:23 |
| tretle | :D | 03:23 |
| Karark|away | i wonder if getting my svideo out is gonna be a pain | 03:23 |
| RAOF | that GSlice thing actually happens for all glib apps, and is (I believe) a harmless bug in glib. | 03:28 |
| tretle | RAOF: is there a link you could give me to the info on the bug | 03:29 |
| tretle | or who is assigned, how long its been there, when its likely to be fixed? | 03:30 |
| RAOF | No, sorry. I'd imagine it'd be fairly prominant in the libglib2 buglist, though :) | 03:30 |
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| RoC_MasterMind | oh | 03:33 |
| RoC_MasterMind | anybody with Broadcom 4318 WLAN tried to use the restricted driver manager to install firmware and activate card? Crashes everytime for me | 03:33 |
| tretle | RAOF: that bug was reported in may :( | 03:34 |
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| FunnyLookinHat | How much of KDE4 (or its applications) are available in Kubuntu Gutsy right now for testing (if not installed by default)? | 03:39 |
| lamalex | RoC_MasterMind: I have a bcm4311, restricted firmware cutter worked perfectly for me | 03:39 |
| RoC_MasterMind | I have not yet installed all the updates since Tribe 2 | 03:41 |
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| tretle | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glib2.0/+bug/116870 | 03:55 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 116870 in glib2.0 "[gutsy] GSlice: g_thread_init() Warning messages" [High,Confirmed] | 03:55 |
| Karark|away | damn, my firefox is broken :( | 03:55 |
| Karark|away | keeps telling me the process is already running, kill it or reboot | 03:56 |
| Karark|away | it's not there to kill and reboot doesn't fix it, reinstall doesn't either | 03:56 |
| tretle | strange | 03:57 |
| RoC_MasterMind | Karark|away, rm ~/.mozilla/firefox/*default/lock | 03:58 |
| Karark|away | no dice | 03:59 |
| Karark|away | doesn't exist | 03:59 |
| Karark|away | deleting entire firefox folder works, though | 03:59 |
| tretle | ps aux | grep lighttpd | 04:00 |
| tretle | sorry | 04:02 |
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| tretle | type ps aux to get a preocess list | 04:02 |
| tretle | and then kill the firefox process | 04:02 |
| Karark|away | i ran top and didn't see it | 04:02 |
| Karark|away | ran killall firefox-bin as well | 04:03 |
| Karark|away | but i've got it now | 04:03 |
| tretle | cool | 04:04 |
| tretle | why didnt they just call the preocess firefox :( | 04:04 |
| Karark|away | no clue | 04:04 |
| tretle | lol | 04:04 |
| tretle | pidgin did it :D | 04:04 |
| tretle | found it | 04:08 |
| tretle | /usr/lib/firefo | 04:08 |
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| thompa | tzdata is a problem in an upgrade 64 bit but it works its way out | 05:25 |
| thompa | the easy fix was to just remove it and then upgrade | 05:25 |
| thompa | I think this was a syanptics error. macbook is working better than osx on the other hand | 05:26 |
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| ubuntu_ | waddup | 05:44 |
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| masterlooki_ | ok the thing about the installer thingie is to kil the umbiq or whatever processes and restart? | 05:47 |
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| masterlooki_ | argh | 05:53 |
| masterlooki_ | comon guyz | 05:53 |
| masterlooki_ | !stall | 05:54 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about stall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 05:54 |
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| RAOF | masterlooki_: What is your question? | 05:55 |
| masterlooki_ | um | 05:55 |
| masterlooki_ | intel 2.8ghz 2gigs ram 9200 ati | 05:55 |
| masterlooki_ | 2 hdd's both ide | 05:55 |
| masterlooki_ | need to setup swap 2 roots home and a win partition | 05:55 |
| masterlooki_ | 2gig swap 6 gig each root and 12 gig win and rest home | 05:56 |
| masterlooki_ | 60 gig primary hdd im putting those 5 partitions on | 05:56 |
| RAOF | Right. Ok. | 05:56 |
| masterlooki_ | and ubiquity or w/e stalls on man partitioning | 05:56 |
| masterlooki_ | whats the command? | 05:56 |
| RAOF | Aaah | 05:56 |
| Karark|away | swapmake and swapon? | 05:56 |
| masterlooki_ | i killed it and ran as root [sudo su >>> ubwhatever] | 05:56 |
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| RAOF | Of course, you could just use the alternate installer disc | 05:57 |
| masterlooki_ | gah sorry | 05:57 |
| masterlooki_ | but i already got this one.. and i know theres a command - had to on my other co mpy | 05:57 |
| pimp31415 | gah this is my roomates compy | 05:57 |
| pimp31415 | upgraded him from edgy to feisty with no effect - flash and mplayer sound broken suggested edgy + gutsy installs lol | 05:58 |
| pimp31415 | gutsy to play edgy for normal windows he must have for his work. | 05:58 |
| pimp31415 | sound professional and nix tools just dont cut it atm - and dont support his aud card yet unfortunately | 05:58 |
| pimp31415 | so: if your here all the time grep logs for same thing its rather common i think | 05:58 |
| RAOF | pimp31415: sudo killall ubiquity; sudo ubiquity | 05:59 |
| pimp31415 | gah | 05:59 |
| pimp31415 | i think there was a flag between the sudo and ubiquity | 05:59 |
| pimp31415 | -c ? | 05:59 |
| RAOF | That's copied directly from the release announcement | 06:00 |
| pimp31415 | guess that would have been a sudo flag so woudlnt matter | 06:00 |
| pimp31415 | i did sudo su | 06:00 |
| pimp31415 | so i can run ubiquity as just that lol | 06:00 |
| RAOF | Should also work, I think. | 06:00 |
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| pimp31415 | ah | 06:04 |
| pimp31415 | just random crash last time working now | 06:04 |
| pimp31415 | i think | 06:04 |
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| pimp31415 | yeah looks good | 06:08 |
| pimp31415 | thanx RAOF :) | 06:08 |
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| mloki | gah | 06:48 |
| mloki | network manager crashed? | 06:48 |
| mloki | why does /etc/network/interfaces have so many interfaces that jus tdont exist! | 06:54 |
| Karark|away | just to toy with you! | 06:54 |
| Karark|away | ;) | 06:54 |
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| mloki | lol | 06:54 |
| mloki | how about w32codecs | 06:54 |
| Karark|away | what about em? | 06:55 |
| FunnyLookinHat | i <3 w32codecs | 06:55 |
| FunnyLookinHat | ; ) | 06:55 |
| mloki | i need em? | 06:55 |
| mloki | totem playing something but no vid output | 06:55 |
| mloki | i can only guess its that | 06:55 |
| Karark|away | trying to play a file should bring up a DL dialog for it | 06:55 |
| Karark|away | ah | 06:56 |
| Karark|away | hmm | 06:56 |
| Karark|away | what kinda file? | 06:56 |
| mloki | xvid | 06:56 |
| mloki | worx in mplayer | 06:56 |
| Karark|away | don't use totem? :D | 06:57 |
| RAOF | mloki: Nah. You really only need w32codecs for realplayer support now | 06:57 |
| mloki | Karark|away, thats unacceptable as broken as totem is. | 06:57 |
| mloki | RAOF, the idea is to play anything. | 06:57 |
| mloki | how about this: | 06:57 |
| Karark|away | i haven't tried any xvids yet, just got gusty installed a couple hours ago | 06:57 |
| mloki | i can get one of the devs of cccp-project to come by and maintain something like w32codecs i bet | 06:57 |
| mloki | nice Karark|away very nice and smooth from here once umbiquity worked lol | 06:58 |
| mloki | ty again btw RAOF | 06:58 |
| RAOF | mloki: No, you cant. w32codecs is a licence violation | 06:58 |
| Karark|away | my xvids are playing in totem | 06:58 |
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| mloki | RAOF, no its not. | 06:58 |
| mloki | i legally own and have installed windows. | 06:58 |
| mloki | i have all liscenses i need. | 06:58 |
| Karark|away | anyone noticing firefox hitting 100% cpu when loading a page for a second | 06:59 |
| RAOF | Violates the end-user agreement for windows | 06:59 |
| Karark|away | a mini lag | 06:59 |
| mloki | Karark|away, yeah | 06:59 |
| mloki | RAOF, my decision | 06:59 |
| RAOF | Whether or not that's a valid contract is less certain :) | 06:59 |
| mloki | id be willing to go to court. | 07:00 |
| mloki | ogawd | 07:00 |
| mloki | there we go again | 07:00 |
| RAOF | But Ubuntu certainly can't distribute them. | 07:00 |
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| mloki | i didnt ask them to | 07:01 |
| mloki | i asked what about w32codecs | 07:01 |
| mloki | those were never ubuntu distrobuted | 07:01 |
| RAOF | Ah. Well, totem can use them? | 07:01 |
| Karark|away | it works here | 07:01 |
| mloki | right | 07:01 |
| Karark|away | ffmpeg ugly, i think | 07:02 |
| RAOF | Just install gstreamer0.10-* :) | 07:02 |
| mloki | so basically i need to just grab and install manually | 07:02 |
| Karark|away | will look real quick | 07:02 |
| mloki | the point being | 07:02 |
| mloki | no RAOF | 07:02 |
| mloki | gstreamer is crap. | 07:02 |
| RAOF | !mediabuntu | 07:02 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about mediabuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 07:02 |
| RAOF | !medibuntu | 07:02 |
| ubotu | medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org | 07:02 |
| mloki | yes | 07:02 |
| mloki | exactly | 07:02 |
| mloki | i'm needing to know about changing it to gutsy | 07:02 |
| mloki | doesnt seem to work | 07:02 |
| mloki | so just use feisty settings on that for now? | 07:02 |
| Karark|away | GStreamer plugins for aac, xvid, mpeg2, faad | 07:03 |
| Karark|away | GStreamer plugins from the "bad" set (Multiverse Variant) | 07:03 |
| RAOF | mloki: Yeah, I suppose. And gstreamer rocks :L | 07:03 |
| Karark|away | using gusty repos | 07:03 |
| mloki | RAOF, if it rocked i would not have a black screen when playing the vid | 07:03 |
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| === ..[topic/#ubuntu+1:irc.freenode.net] : The In Development Version Channel | Please ***don't*** run gutsy unless you are familiar with dpkg and dependencies, bug fixing and the like. | Ubuntu 7.10 - the "Gutsy Gibbon" | Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule | Do not use development versions of Ubuntu on production systems | For support for Dapper, Edgy, Feisty please join #ubuntu. | Go Ape! | Tribe 2 released | Yes, there are libcurl* and apt issues ATM. Just | ||
| RAOF | Well, you probably don't have the codec installed. You can't blame gst for that :) | 07:04 |
| mloki | can't blam gstreamer for not having what installed? | 07:05 |
| mloki | o wait | 07:05 |
| mloki | i was asking about a CODECS PACKAGE | 07:05 |
| mloki | sit back and think about that for a second. | 07:05 |
| mloki | i'm not trying to flam | 07:05 |
| Karark|away | i just told you what package to use | 07:05 |
| pimp31415 | Karark|away, i installed the restricted package with aptitude | 07:05 |
| pimp31415 | it brought all those in by default | 07:06 |
| pimp31415 | : | 07:06 |
| pimp31415 | :)) | 07:06 |
| pimp31415 | and it still doesnt show vid | 07:06 |
| Karark|away | bummer | 07:06 |
| pimp31415 | quite broken - when i minimize totem and reunminimize it shows single frame and then goes blank | 07:07 |
| RAOF | Ah. That is a problem. Using desktop-effects? | 07:07 |
| pimp31415 | no i dont think so lets douible check | 07:07 |
| pimp31415 | i would so love to be wrong :) | 07:07 |
| pimp31415 | user error is much better than distro hell lol | 07:07 |
| pimp31415 | aahh | 07:08 |
| RAOF | :L | 07:08 |
| pimp31415 | you, sir get a cookie | 07:08 |
| Karark|away | great | 07:08 |
| pimp31415 | now what would compiz.real have to do with that,,,,, | 07:08 |
| pimp31415 | lets fix it for beryl and see what we can do. | 07:08 |
| === Hobbsee waits for an archive admin... | ||
| pimp31415 | emerald-themes: Depends: emerald (>= 0.1) but it is not installable | 07:08 |
| pimp31415 | hi Hobbsee ^^ | 07:08 |
| RAOF | You have run into the "ati drivers hate Xv + compiz" bug | 07:08 |
| pimp31415 | gotcha | 07:08 |
| Hobbsee | hi pimp31415 | 07:09 |
| pimp31415 | how u holdin down the fort with your bad self | 07:09 |
| Hobbsee | pimp31415: your point? :) | 07:09 |
| Hobbsee | i'm waiting on someone to unbreak soyuz, so apt actually gets built. | 07:09 |
| pimp31415 | btw scroll up a few hours someone tried to compile apt and couldnt get it to checkinstall | 07:09 |
| pimp31415 | ha i knew it was something lol | 07:09 |
| Hobbsee | bft | 07:09 |
| Hobbsee | *pft | 07:09 |
| pimp31415 | any way to force emerald-themes in? | 07:09 |
| Hobbsee | checkinstall dies over anything complicated - like, multiple binaries | 07:09 |
| pimp31415 | lol | 07:10 |
| pimp31415 | if i were actually decent i would learn how to make uninstall | 07:10 |
| pimp31415 | or whatever it is | 07:10 |
| pimp31415 | lol | 07:10 |
| Hobbsee | i'd be more worried if it *did* build | 07:10 |
| Hobbsee | because it would probably kill his system | 07:11 |
| === Hobbsee wonders about filing a removal request for it | ||
| === RAOF wonders why emerald is not installable | ||
| === pimp31415 wonders why too | ||
| pimp31415 | it was installable 3 days ago? | 07:13 |
| pimp31415 | 5? | 07:13 |
| === Hobbsee shrugs | ||
| pimp31415 | and i did an apt-clean >_< | 07:13 |
| Hobbsee | RAOF: someone broke it | 07:13 |
| RAOF | Yay! | 07:13 |
| Hobbsee | RAOF: because emerald doesnt atually exist anymore | 07:13 |
| Hobbsee | due to the merge, and such | 07:14 |
| Hobbsee | RAOF: if there isnt one already, please file a bug on removing emerald-themes | 07:14 |
| RAOF | Not quite true, sadly | 07:14 |
| Hobbsee | well, the ubuntu package | 07:14 |
| RAOF | Really we should package the new emerald, I suppose | 07:14 |
| pimp31415 | ok now lets try the desktop effects with extra effects | 07:14 |
| pimp31415 | btw excellent install on the gutsy overall | 07:15 |
| Hobbsee | RAOF: i'd prefer not to see that stuff go thru :P | 07:15 |
| === RAOF suggests getting "compizconfig-settings-manager", trr | ||
| === Hobbsee wants to see the kde version.. | ||
| Hobbsee | pity mvo is on leave | 07:15 |
| === RAOF will pretend that emerald no longer exists, then :) | ||
| pimp31415 | well extra effects with desktop effects works by default on radeon 9200 | 07:16 |
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| pimp31415 | i wonder if i could get dual mons with that working | 07:16 |
| === pimp31415 drools | ||
| pimp31415 | my roomate would LOVE it | 07:16 |
| RAOF | Hobbsee: For cc-s | 07:16 |
| RAOF | ? | 07:16 |
| Hobbsee | RAOF: i think so, yeah | 07:16 |
| RAOF | pimp31415: I believe so, yes | 07:16 |
| pimp31415 | and as for emerald how about have it be a placeholder package like so many others that just makes sure the latest emerald-themes is in | 07:16 |
| RAOF | Hobbsee: Cool. I can't wait for an actually usable settings manager :P | 07:17 |
| Karark|away | pimp31415, what do you use for dual monitors? | 07:17 |
| pimp31415 | RAOF, theoretically yes in edgy/feisty/dapper but really no but hey lets see what we can do here :) | 07:17 |
| pimp31415 | Karark|away, radeon 9200 128MB card with dual lcd's | 07:17 |
| Karark|away | i had a hell of a time getting svideo and my monitor working nicely on feisty | 07:17 |
| pimp31415 | vga outs | 07:17 |
| Karark|away | software wise | 07:17 |
| Karark|away | bigscreen? | 07:17 |
| Karark|away | FBmerge? | 07:18 |
| pimp31415 | ah dunno | 07:18 |
| RAOF | pimp31415: MergedFB should be your friend. Also, you probably wont be able to use compiz with it, due to texture size limitations | 07:18 |
| pimp31415 | i could get the mons working without beryl quite easily with a few good ones | 07:18 |
| pimp31415 | RAOF, yeah that was the thing | 07:18 |
| pimp31415 | tho the size shouldnt have mattered - 1024x768x2 | 07:18 |
| pimp31415 | so it falls within the limits of 2048x1024 quite nicely | 07:18 |
| RAOF | Actually, yeah | 07:19 |
| pimp31415 | [if i remember the restrictions correctly] | 07:19 |
| pimp31415 | well lets see let me get ntfs-3g on right and then on to dual mons | 07:20 |
| pimp31415 | btw that thing with the vid is an issue with totem and its overlay somewhere i think as it does not carry over to mplayer - testing vlc | 07:20 |
| RAOF | pimp31415: You can fix it by selecting a different video sink | 07:21 |
| pimp31415 | vlc is fine till i skip ahead - i think its just screen refresh lag thing | 07:21 |
| pimp31415 | diff vid sink? praytell? | 07:21 |
| pimp31415 | mm yeah skip ahead or select another window on top and the overlay gets mad | 07:21 |
| pimp31415 | but i have no options in the device section let me try a few | 07:22 |
| RAOF | pimp31415: gstreamer-properties -> Video -> no Xv | 07:22 |
| RAOF | Or install the glimagesink, and use that in the "custom" field | 07:23 |
| pimp31415 | ah yeah was on autodetect | 07:23 |
| pimp31415 | ok sir | 07:23 |
| pimp31415 | i bow to your greatness | 07:23 |
| pimp31415 | ;) | 07:24 |
| RAOF | No xv may be a little slow. If so, try glimagesink :) | 07:24 |
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| pimp31415 | ok | 07:26 |
| pimp31415 | let me double check im logging | 07:26 |
| pimp31415 | >_< | 07:26 |
| RAOF | :) | 07:27 |
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| pimp31415 | good lol edited | 07:28 |
| Karark|away | RAOF, where is the gstreamer-properties? for future reference | 07:28 |
| pimp31415 | Karark|away, i did in terminal - good question | 07:29 |
| Karark|away | ah yea, that works | 07:29 |
| pimp31415 | python-qt3 needs to be included as default in ubuntu-desktop if at all possible b/c of hp stuff | 07:30 |
| RAOF | You can also edit the "preferences" menu to make it visible | 07:30 |
| pimp31415 | arg needed 5megs of repos | 07:30 |
| RAOF | not a chance | 07:30 |
| pimp31415 | thus the arg | 07:31 |
| pimp31415 | ah Karark|away multimedia-system-selector | 07:31 |
| RAOF | Python-qt would pull in like 30Mb worth of dependencies :) | 07:31 |
| pimp31415 | or so | 07:31 |
| Karark|away | sweet, found it, thanks | 07:31 |
| pimp31415 | RAOF, Need to get 4940kB of archives. | 07:31 |
| pimp31415 | After unpacking 22.1MB of additional disk space will be used. | 07:31 |
| pimp31415 | this is uuberclean install lol | 07:32 |
| RAOF | There we go :) | 07:32 |
| RAOF | Think the livecd's got 22Mb spare :) | 07:32 |
| RAOF | Althogh that's a lot less than I thought it would be | 07:33 |
| pimp31415 | RAOF, only 5MB archives - only needs to be installed as used neh? | 07:34 |
| Karark|away | is fglrx required to use big-desktop? | 07:35 |
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| RAOF | Karark|away: I don't believe so | 07:36 |
| Karark|away | great, i hate fglrx on my 9600pro | 07:36 |
| RAOF | pimp31415: If it's in ubuntu-desktop, it's installed by default. | 07:36 |
| RAOF | As in, on the livecd :) | 07:37 |
| pimp31415 | RAOF, it wasnt installed - and its not enabled or shown by default | 07:37 |
| pimp31415 | so i assume thats b/c they didnt wanna lose space | 07:37 |
| pimp31415 | but tinyirc should be | 07:37 |
| pimp31415 | SOMETHING | 07:37 |
| pimp31415 | irc2 even | 07:38 |
| pimp31415 | !irc2 details | 07:38 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about irc2 details - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 07:38 |
| pimp31415 | whats the command ? | 07:38 |
| pimp31415 | ok now for dual mons | 07:38 |
| pimp31415 | btw the hptools worked perfectly - first ubuntu distro for this printer | 07:38 |
| pimp31415 | well gotta check scanner but not right now | 07:38 |
| RAOF | Um. I've lost you. Weren't we talking about python-qt3? | 07:38 |
| pimp31415 | yesa | 07:38 |
| pimp31415 | and its not installed by default | 07:38 |
| pimp31415 | but when i did and got that hplip tool working | 07:38 |
| pimp31415 | [it wouldnt load without the python-qt3 which was not installed by default] | 07:39 |
| RAOF | Oh, so hplip doesn't work without p-qt3? | 07:40 |
| pimp31415 | ugot it | 07:40 |
| pimp31415 | try showing it in menu and then running it ^^ | 07:41 |
| pimp31415 | could be i missed something somehow | 07:41 |
| RAOF | bug time! | 07:41 |
| pimp31415 | lol | 07:41 |
| pimp31415 | so how would you recommend i attack dual mons with this ati again? | 07:41 |
| pimp31415 | MergedFB ? | 07:41 |
| RAOF | yup | 07:42 |
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| Karark|away | ati opensource and big-desktop don't work :/ | 07:43 |
| pimp31415 | RAOF, seperate device sections? | 07:43 |
| RAOF | pimp31415: No idea. I've only ever multi-monitored with nvidia | 07:44 |
| pimp31415 | ha | 07:44 |
| Karark|away | now to find a way to get tvout with opensource drivers :( | 07:44 |
| RAOF | Which is nice and easy. And will be more so once nouveau works :) | 07:44 |
| Karark|away | anyone have ideas? | 07:45 |
| RAOF | Karark|away: I think you need development drivers. | 07:46 |
| Karark|away | xserver-xorg-dev? | 07:47 |
| pimp31415 | ok brb | 07:47 |
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| masterloki | gah | 07:49 |
| masterloki | cloned screen - i KNOW i did it all right :-: | 07:49 |
| masterloki | :_: *** | 07:49 |
| RoC_MasterMind | what is the basic status of nouveau | 07:49 |
| Karark|away | guess i will give fglrx another chance | 07:50 |
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| RAOF | RoC_MasterMind: 2d works. untextured 3d kinda works | 07:58 |
| RAOF | New, improved, EXA support! | 07:59 |
| RAOF | git libdrm, mesa, and xorg driver! | 07:59 |
| RoC_MasterMind | what is untextured 3d? | 08:00 |
| RoC_MasterMind | like 3d bery/compiz effects? | 08:00 |
| RAOF | No. Very much not. | 08:01 |
| RAOF | Compiz is all textures :) | 08:02 |
| RAOF | Like glxgears | 08:02 |
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| RAOF | Which works on my 7600 go, until I fullscreen it :) | 08:02 |
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| Karark|away | gah! this is getting annoying | 08:11 |
| Karark|away | using big-desktop, i have to do horizontal,reverse since my tv is to my left | 08:11 |
| Karark|away | but i cannot get it to make my PC monitor the default screen | 08:11 |
| Karark|away | any tips? | 08:11 |
| RAOF | What? It works with the free drivers? Cool | 08:12 |
| Karark|away | nah, fglrx :( | 08:12 |
| Karark|away | but the firecontrol program is nice for doing TV out | 08:12 |
| Karark|away | fglrxcontrol in synaptic | 08:12 |
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| Karark|away | RAOF, know how to set which display to default screen? | 08:14 |
| RAOF | No, sorry | 08:14 |
| Karark|away | more of an annoyance than anything | 08:14 |
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| Karark|away | worst in when i get an IM and it spawns over there | 08:15 |
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| masterloki | WOW | 08:27 |
| Karark|away | damn it, my GLX apps do not run correctly with this fglrx + big-desktop | 08:28 |
| masterloki | hey that worked | 08:28 |
| masterloki | <<-- pimp etc | 08:28 |
| masterloki | worked GREAT | 08:28 |
| Karark|away | the picture is half outside of the window border | 08:28 |
| masterloki | unfortunately the vid card is too limited to do much on the second screen but i'm gonna post the xorg.conf in the thread | 08:28 |
| masterloki | :) | 08:28 |
| RAOF | :) | 08:28 |
| masterloki | Karark|away, dual mons? | 08:28 |
| masterloki | !paste | 08:28 |
| ubotu | pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) | 08:28 |
| Karark|away | masterloki, yea | 08:28 |
| masterloki | got 3d rendering on both mons here | 08:29 |
| masterloki | which was a first | 08:29 |
| Karark|away | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29187/ | 08:29 |
| Karark|away | using ATI | 08:29 |
| masterloki | so even extra effects works - i get wierd redraw stuff on second mon but i think thats b/c the card is just a 9200 | 08:30 |
| masterloki | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29188/ | 08:30 |
| Karark|away | http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=37645&d=1183927899 | 08:30 |
| Karark|away | and that's what my GLX apps look like | 08:30 |
| masterloki | try without the fglrx | 08:30 |
| Karark|away | i wasn't able to | 08:30 |
| Karark|away | i'll check your xorg.conf and see whats up | 08:30 |
| Karark|away | it's s-video out, BW | 08:31 |
| Karark|away | BTW* | 08:31 |
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| masterloki | yeah same kinda redraw stuff | 08:31 |
| Karark|away | Option "MonitorLayout" "crt, CRT" # LVDS = Laptop Screen, TMDS = DVI Port, CRT = VGA Port NOT MONITOR TYPE! | 08:31 |
| Karark|away | what would i use for s-video here | 08:31 |
| masterloki | what i had to change from the guide was the bit where in mine its crt, crt | 08:31 |
| masterloki | lets find out :) | 08:32 |
| Karark|away | hehe | 08:32 |
| Karark|away | not sure it has the option | 08:32 |
| Karark|away | i'll give it a go, though | 08:32 |
| masterloki | try none | 08:32 |
| masterloki | literally | 08:32 |
| Karark|away | ok | 08:32 |
| masterloki | ' none ' | 08:32 |
| Karark|away | Option "MonitorLayout" "none, CRT" | 08:33 |
| Karark|away | ? | 08:33 |
| Karark|away | or just none altogether | 08:33 |
| masterloki | default is auto, auto | 08:33 |
| masterloki | but yes | 08:33 |
| masterloki | you might need to swap those tho | 08:33 |
| masterloki | play with the two diff ways | 08:33 |
| Karark|away | ok | 08:33 |
| masterloki | crt means vga out | 08:33 |
| Karark|away | right | 08:33 |
| masterloki | tmds == dvi etc | 08:34 |
| masterloki | :) | 08:34 |
| masterloki | i'm interested b/c we put this on the tv once in a while | 08:34 |
| Karark|away | ok, here we go | 08:35 |
| masterloki | ah | 08:38 |
| masterloki | might be TV | 08:38 |
| masterloki | yeah i think tv | 08:38 |
| masterloki | go figure >_< | 08:38 |
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| masterloki | Karark|away, actually | 08:41 |
| masterloki | with a bit more looking | 08:41 |
| Karark|away | damn | 08:41 |
| masterloki | i think its TV | 08:41 |
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| Karark|away | really? | 08:41 |
| masterloki | >__< | 08:41 |
| masterloki | well there are some threads about svideo in ubuntuforums that show tv | 08:41 |
| Karark|away | but with mergeFB? | 08:42 |
| Karark|away | i know big-desktop does it | 08:42 |
| masterloki | no clue man | 08:42 |
| masterloki | its just a vid type | 08:42 |
| Karark|away | yea | 08:42 |
| masterloki | remember both mons need to be same resolution i think | 08:42 |
| masterloki | unless you do diff sections for each | 08:42 |
| masterloki | which might be xinerama? no clue | 08:43 |
| Karark|away | me neither, trying something else | 08:44 |
| masterloki | beryl: decoration: property ignored because version is 20070319 and decoration plugin version is 20061011 | 08:45 |
| masterloki | really really need some emerald-themes here :_: | 08:46 |
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| Karark|away | getting close | 08:47 |
| masterloki | good :) | 08:47 |
| masterloki | whats the current symtoms? | 08:47 |
| Karark|away | got a clone on TV but it's wacked | 08:47 |
| masterloki | i would have beryl working on duals if it wernt for the em themes | 08:47 |
| masterloki | wierd lines? | 08:48 |
| masterloki | try reducing the shared resolutions way down | 08:48 |
| Karark|away | super skinny and displayed 3 times | 08:48 |
| masterloki | 600x480 on both | 08:48 |
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| Karark|away | still garbled | 08:50 |
| masterloki | GConf backend: There is an unsupported value at path /apps/compiz/plugins/wobbly/screen0/options/friction. Settings from this path won't be read. Try to remove that value so that operation can continue properly. | 08:51 |
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| Karark|away | i just cannot get the damned TV to display properly | 08:54 |
| Karark|away | but it looks fine with GDM is not running | 08:54 |
| masterloki | hm | 08:56 |
| masterloki | are you still using that fglrx ? | 08:56 |
| masterloki | try radeon or ati | 08:56 |
| Karark|away | ati | 08:56 |
| Karark|away | i can get another screen with fglrx | 08:56 |
| masterloki | hey anyone know how to force emerald and emerald themes in? | 08:56 |
| Karark|away | but not run GLX apps because the rendering is moved over in a weird way | 08:56 |
| masterloki | mm | 08:57 |
| masterloki | sorry i dont know enough about your problem or this in general | 08:57 |
| masterloki | nvidia - worx great of course | 08:57 |
| masterloki | >_< | 08:57 |
| Karark|away | yea i know | 08:58 |
| Karark|away | but my nvidia card looks like crap with the svideo | 08:58 |
| masterloki | huh | 08:58 |
| Karark|away | that nvidia just works | 08:59 |
| masterloki | well keep at work on it | 08:59 |
| masterloki | and start a thread in the forums | 08:59 |
| masterloki | www.ubuntuforums.org | 08:59 |
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| Karark|away | i've posted on a thread about big-desktop | 08:59 |
| Karark|away | seems to be an active thread | 08:59 |
| masterloki | heh | 08:59 |
| masterloki | hm | 08:59 |
| masterloki | i wonder if i grab the emerald themes from somewhere or other and force in.. | 08:59 |
| Karark|away | guess i could try xinerama | 08:59 |
| masterloki | gah i'll prolly break stuff beyond repair | 09:00 |
| Karark|away | breaking stuff is half the fun ;) | 09:00 |
| masterloki | lets leave it till repos get happier | 09:00 |
| masterloki | my system, sure | 09:00 |
| masterloki | his not so much | 09:00 |
| masterloki | lol | 09:00 |
| Karark|away | ah ok | 09:00 |
| masterloki | i could try compiling.... | 09:01 |
| masterloki | YARITE | 09:01 |
| masterloki | i'll let it go for a bit | 09:01 |
| masterloki | tho i wonder if there is a way to reverse make the package from my system | 09:01 |
| masterloki | i bet there is somehow | 09:02 |
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| masterloki | ok well | 09:14 |
| masterloki | for the record and all | 09:14 |
| masterloki | i added feisty to repos for a bit and installed emerald stuff from there | 09:14 |
| masterloki | technicallly its working | 09:14 |
| masterloki | XD | 09:14 |
| Hobbsee | ew | 09:14 |
| masterloki | now to disable it | 09:14 |
| Hobbsee | that will probably break soon | 09:14 |
| masterloki | Hobbsee, i had to do something - beryl wouldnt run right without heliodore or emerald-themes | 09:15 |
| masterloki | neither of which could be installed | 09:15 |
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| masterloki | tho the compiz.real worked i wanted something from beryl - this vid card cant really handle either on duals | 09:15 |
| masterloki | barely on single mon so w/e | 09:15 |
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| eagles0513875 | Hobbsee: hey i got a question for ya | 09:19 |
| Hobbsee | shoot | 09:20 |
| eagles0513875 | when u turn the volume down to 0% do u still get audio coming out | 09:21 |
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| Hobbsee | yes | 09:21 |
| eagles0513875 | ok at least im not the only one | 09:21 |
| Hobbsee | although i think i saw a bug report where someone didnt | 09:21 |
| Hobbsee | sorry, no | 09:21 |
| eagles0513875 | ok so im not going to report it again | 09:22 |
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| eagles0513875 | whats the deal with all those packages that have been held back | 09:26 |
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| gnomefreak | eagles0513875: there are depends issues once everything is built against new libept they will be realesed (as far as i knowadept is blocking libept once that is fixed than they can be built against it and uploaded | 09:43 |
| eagles0513875 | kool. | 09:45 |
| eagles0513875 | i was just wondering | 09:45 |
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| gnomefreak | since apt is sort of important it should get done while sprint week is going on (but im not there so i cant say it will for sure) | 09:47 |
| eagles0513875 | lol | 09:47 |
| eagles0513875 | r u refering to that apport thing that i reported | 09:47 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: well, i've uploaded the last version, and am not at the sprint... | 09:47 |
| gnomefreak | Hobbsee: yeah i saw that yesterday but apt wont go through without libept | 09:48 |
| Hobbsee | libept is broken too? will have to look later | 09:48 |
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| gnomefreak | Hobbsee: im assuming that is why apt and apt-utils is not upgrading (apt wants to remove all important apps | 09:49 |
| eagles0513875 | Hobbsee: what happend to that apport problem i filed | 09:49 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: you're incorrect | 09:49 |
| gnomefreak | i am? | 09:49 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: well, in so far as it's not libept - it's libapt | 09:49 |
| gnomefreak | ah | 09:49 |
| eagles0513875 | lol | 09:49 |
| Hobbsee | everything installing related needs a rebuild against the new apt | 09:49 |
| Hobbsee | which is pointless, until the version of apt in bzr is in the archive ,and builds on all arches | 09:50 |
| Hobbsee | anyway, really out this time. | 09:50 |
| gnomefreak | ubuntu5 is in the archive :( | 09:51 |
| eagles0513875 | lol | 09:51 |
| eagles0513875 | im not much help | 09:51 |
| eagles0513875 | im working on a kubuntu based project of my own with 2 other people atm | 09:51 |
| eagles0513875 | working on developing it | 09:51 |
| eagles0513875 | actually the planning phase atm | 09:52 |
| eagles0513875 | then devellopment | 09:52 |
| eagles0513875 | gnomefreak: u know the gpl rather well | 09:52 |
| gnomefreak | hmm maybe i will ping one of the guys at sprint and see what is going on afaik ubuntu5 is in bzr | 09:53 |
| gnomefreak | eagles0513875: eh | 09:53 |
| eagles0513875 | lol | 09:53 |
| eagles0513875 | j/w if i were to take kubuntu and make another dirivative but call it a different name would that violate the gpl | 09:53 |
| gnomefreak | eagles0513875: depends on the name | 09:54 |
| gnomefreak | eagles0513875: but yes you should beable to | 09:55 |
| eagles0513875 | ok | 09:55 |
| eagles0513875 | sweet | 09:55 |
| eagles0513875 | u know much programming gnomefreak | 09:55 |
| gnomefreak | eagles0513875: some not so much alot | 09:55 |
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| eagles0513875 | may i pm ya gnome | 09:56 |
| gnomefreak | eagles0513875: yeah ill answer as soon as i get back (getting coffee and a smoke) | 09:57 |
| eagles0513875 | ok | 09:57 |
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| jussi01 | Hmmm, hello everyone. how is gutsy looking right now? | 10:32 |
| eagles0513875 | for me so far so good | 10:33 |
| eagles0513875 | only one peculiarity though | 10:33 |
| eagles0513875 | lol | 10:33 |
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| moky | hello | 10:59 |
| moky | I've a problem with the internet connection of KGutsy Tribe2 | 10:59 |
| moky | it only accepts eth2 | 10:59 |
| moky | so I am unable to connect | 10:59 |
| moky | I do not have the problem with kgutsy upgraded from kfeisty | 11:00 |
| gnomefreak | moky: n-m is screwed up in gutsy atm | 11:00 |
| gnomefreak | moky: file a bug and wait for it to get fixed | 11:02 |
| moky | ok. Thanks | 11:02 |
| moky | What do I have to precise in my bug report ? | 11:02 |
| moky | I am not used to fill bug report and I want to do it correctly | 11:03 |
| gnomefreak | moky: the problem, expected results, what results you are getting version of ubuntu, version of network-manager and anything else that you would see as important (errors you get when you try differnet things) | 11:04 |
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| moky | For the versions of software, can I just say "tribe2 live-CD" ? | 11:05 |
| gnomefreak | moky: are you using livecd or installed? | 11:06 |
| moky | both | 11:06 |
| moky | right now I am using a upgrade from feisty. It works | 11:06 |
| moky | but the live-cd presents the bug as well as the installed version (at least woth tribe1) | 11:07 |
| gnomefreak | moky: version of network-manager == apt-cache poilcy network-manager for gutsy release just say you are using gutsy it is than assumed you are up to date | 11:07 |
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| moky | I cannot be up to date because I have no network ;) | 11:09 |
| gnomefreak | moky: well than you would need to tell them when you lost your net access | 11:09 |
| moky | when performing a fresh install of Gutsy | 11:10 |
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| jussi01 | hmmm, ok, where is my adept? | 11:14 |
| gnomefreak | jussi01: its there unless you upgraded apt | 11:20 |
| jussi01 | hmmm, i havent upgraded for a few days... but maybe i did | 11:20 |
| jussi01 | havent booted gustsy since saturday.. | 11:20 |
| gnomefreak | jussi01: you would have to know if you upgraded it since its held back you would have gave the install command | 11:21 |
| gnomefreak | jussi01: sudo apt-get update | 11:21 |
| jussi01 | ok, i only have used the adept updater.. | 11:21 |
| gnomefreak | jussi01: than try upgrade apt-apt-utils and others should be held back | 11:21 |
| jussi01 | huh? | 11:22 |
| gnomefreak | jussi01: run sudo apt-get update than run sudo apt-get upgrade. the above packages should be in held back | 11:23 |
| gnomefreak | adept will still be installed unless you upgraded those packages. do not force an upgrade or try to install those packages | 11:23 |
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| jussi01 | oh crap | 11:24 |
| jussi01 | it only held back libcurl 3 and 4 | 11:24 |
| jussi01 | is it gonna die now? | 11:25 |
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| jussi01 | elkbuntu: wb! | 11:25 |
| gnomefreak | jussi01: libvurl has issues see /topic | 11:26 |
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| elkbuntu | jussi01, did the netsplit 2hrs ago ever unsplit? | 11:26 |
| jussi01 | elkbuntu: i dont think so | 11:27 |
| gnomefreak | elkbuntu: no | 11:27 |
| jussi01 | elkbuntu: ubotu is still gone... | 11:27 |
| elkbuntu | ok then, there's 66 poor suckers in #ubuntu over on the other server | 11:27 |
| jussi01 | gnomefreak: just what... (end of /topic)? | 11:27 |
| jussi01 | hehe... poor them | 11:27 |
| jussi01 | :P | 11:27 |
| jussi01 | elkbuntu: at least they have ubotu to keep them company... :P | 11:28 |
| gnomefreak | oh good question | 11:28 |
| gnomefreak | ill fix it in a moment | 11:28 |
| jussi01 | hehe, thanks :) | 11:29 |
| === mode/#ubuntu+1 [+o gnomefreak] by ChanServ | ||
| === ..[topic/#ubuntu+1:gnomefreak] : The In Development Version Channel | Please ***don't*** run gutsy unless you are familiar with dpkg and dependencies, bug fixing and the like. | Ubuntu 7.10 - the "Gutsy Gibbon" | Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule | Do not use development versions of Ubuntu on production systems | For support for Dapper, Edgy, Feisty please join #ubuntu. | Go Ape! | Tribe 2 released | Yes, there are libcurl* and apt issues ATM. | ||
| === mode/#ubuntu+1 [-o gnomefreak] by ChanServ | ||
| jussi01 | heh... what was it going to say? | 11:30 |
| gnomefreak | jussi01: freenode set it so there is no telling | 11:31 |
| gnomefreak | freenode is having issues today | 11:32 |
| jussi01 | I noticed | 11:32 |
| jussi01 | hmmm, question, is mesa the best driver for intel 915? or is there some intel driver i should be installing...? | 11:33 |
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| crdlb | that is the intel driver | 11:34 |
| crdlb | they don't make silly proprietary drivers | 11:34 |
| jussi01 | ok... Im just getting issues with tremulous | 11:34 |
| crdlb | as long as you mean mesa, not vesa :P | 11:35 |
| jussi01 | crdlb: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29195/ | 11:35 |
| jussi01 | thats the out put when i start in terminal | 11:35 |
| crdlb | jussi01, pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 11:36 |
| jussi01 | crdlb: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29196/ | 11:38 |
| crdlb | well I thought gutsy used the newer intel driver (not i810) | 11:40 |
| crdlb | but it's working | 11:40 |
| crdlb | jussi01, pastebin this: LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo | 11:40 |
| jussi01 | crdlb: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29198/ | 11:41 |
| crdlb | ah there's the problem | 11:41 |
| jussi01 | yes, i just saw that... | 11:42 |
| crdlb | sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dri | 11:42 |
| crdlb | and if it's installed --reinstall it | 11:42 |
| jussi01 | installing | 11:42 |
| jussi01 | :) | 11:42 |
| jussi01 | ok, trem works now! | 11:43 |
| jussi01 | thanks a lot! | 11:43 |
| jussi01 | any idea why that didnt install the first time around? | 11:43 |
| crdlb | well at least for a while they were going to leave off libgl1-mesa-dri | 11:44 |
| crdlb | because of space concerns | 11:44 |
| jussi01 | oh | 11:44 |
| jussi01 | ok then | 11:44 |
| crdlb | because they didn't realize -glx wasn't enough by itself apparently | 11:44 |
| jussi01 | ok, so they are fixing it? | 11:45 |
| jussi01 | or do I need to file a bug? | 11:45 |
| crdlb | afaik it's fixed | 11:45 |
| jussi01 | ok :) | 11:45 |
| crdlb | and they're certainly aware of it :) | 11:45 |
| jussi01 | excellent | 11:45 |
| jussi01 | well, Im off to play some trem.... | 11:45 |
| jussi01 | :) | 11:45 |
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| SeveredCross | >:o | 01:32 |
| SeveredCross | Apt still isn't fixed! | 01:32 |
| gnomefreak | SeveredCross: apt ios being held back in gutsy | 01:33 |
| gnomefreak | SeveredCross: everything needs to be built on new libapt | 01:34 |
| SeveredCross | Bah. | 01:34 |
| SeveredCross | I could've sworn Hobbsee told me that was going to be fixed with 0.7.2ubuntu6. | 01:34 |
| gnomefreak | SeveredCross: apt maybe but the other apps myabe not | 01:34 |
| SeveredCross | Bah. | 01:35 |
| SeveredCross | Well, it's weird, because doesn't the apt package provide libapt-pkg-libc6-blah-blah? | 01:35 |
| gnomefreak | there are about 10-20 apps that need rebuild on new libapt | 01:35 |
| SeveredCross | Oh, and synaptic and aptitude are looking for the wrong version of apt. | 01:35 |
| SeveredCross | Gotcha. | 01:35 |
| SeveredCross | Err, libapt. | 01:35 |
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| SeveredCross | Hmm. | 01:40 |
| SeveredCross | I got aptitude back. | 01:40 |
| SeveredCross | And tasksel and ubuntu-minimal. | 01:40 |
| SeveredCross | Synaptic is still busted. | 01:40 |
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| mrsno__ | morn | 01:47 |
| SeveredCross | Mornin. | 01:48 |
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| Infecto | hello | 05:18 |
| Infecto | can some one tell me where is acroread in pkg ? | 05:19 |
| mrsno__ | gworkspace-apps-wrappers in universe Infecto ? | 05:20 |
| mrsno__ | http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=acroread&searchmode=searchword&case=insensitive&version=gutsy&arch=i386 | 05:20 |
| Infecto | mrsno__: a sry | 05:21 |
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| Infecto | i install it but it not contain acroread | 05:29 |
| Infecto | :) | 05:29 |
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| DanaG | ubuntu-laptop-mode wants to uninstall ubuntu-desktop. | 05:42 |
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| Hobbsee | DanaG: because it conflicts ubuntu-laptop-mode | 05:46 |
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| donspaulding | Hello all, I'm running gutsy on my new T61, and I don't have any sound. The current version of the alsa-driver is 1.0.14, which can be patched to provide support for my chipset, but the patches exist in CVS version of the driver. | 06:15 |
| donspaulding | My question is, will there be any updates beyond 1.0.14 to the alsa-driver before gutsy releases? | 06:15 |
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| SaltyMule | can I get help here? | 06:46 |
| mrsno__ | SaltyMule see topic , but sure | 06:46 |
| SaltyMule | sorry, just trying to find the ubuntu help channel | 06:47 |
| donspaulding | Anyone know if the alsa-driver will be updated again before gutsy releases? | 06:52 |
| mrsno | SaltyMule try #ubuntu for general support | 06:54 |
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| SaltyMule | Thanks, but no one was answering my questions | 06:57 |
| teratoma | someone gonna fix apt one day? | 07:12 |
| donspaulding | /me's not | 07:14 |
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| PriceChild | *growls* Why can't I mange to compile the rt2x00 drivers? :( | 07:43 |
| h3sp4wn | PriceChild: What does it fail on ? rfkill ? | 07:46 |
| PriceChild | I'm just gonna make a nice clean make.log | 07:47 |
| h3sp4wn | Are you trying to compile the daily cvs download (remember its against wireless-git) | 07:49 |
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| PriceChild | I've tried the latest from ralinktech, and from serialmonkey (beta4) | 07:49 |
| h3sp4wn | neither of those are rt2x00 | 07:50 |
| h3sp4wn | the legacy ones are not the rewrite | 07:50 |
| h3sp4wn | (feisty uses the mac80211 ones anyway) | 07:51 |
| h3sp4wn | s/feisty/gutsy | 07:51 |
| PriceChild | ok so i can accept maybe I don't know what I'm doing... | 07:52 |
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| conn | hi, has anyone with an intel graphics chipset tried the EXA AccelMethod in Xorg? If you have, can you also get compiz working properly? | 10:27 |
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| crdlb | conn, I'm pretty sure that XAA is still a far better AccelMethod | 10:27 |
| conn | crdlb, hard to explain, but very soon it will work better than XAA, as soon as xserver-xorg-core is updated, it will have smooth scrolling with compiz... | 10:28 |
| conn | crdlb, Option "MigrationHeuristic" "greedy" - this will make EXA rendering as fast as XAA for the moment | 10:29 |
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| crdlb | cool | 10:29 |
| conn | crdlb, you'd be doing me a big favour if you can verify that compiz works with exa | 10:30 |
| crdlb | I cannot :/ | 10:30 |
| conn | ok | 10:30 |
| crdlb | not running gutsy atm, and I don't have an intel chip :P | 10:30 |
| conn | ok :) | 10:31 |
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| joumetal | added Option exa in xorg.conf and x works with i815 | 10:40 |
| joumetal | compiz works too. | 10:42 |
| conn | joumetal, cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep -i exa | 10:42 |
| conn | if exa isn't supported, it'll revert to xaa without failing - I'm not sure if the i815 chipset supports exa yet | 10:43 |
| joumetal | it doesn't give anything | 10:43 |
| conn | joumetal, you're probably using xaa, then | 10:46 |
| joumetal | yes it is. | 10:46 |
| conn | anyway thanks for testing it, I appreciate it :) | 10:47 |
| h3sp4wn | exa works very nicely on my r200 based ati | 10:47 |
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| conn | h3sp4wn, yep and when the rest of the aiglx-zero-copy-tfp patches are applied to xorg, scrolling will be much better for you with compiz | 10:51 |
| conn | unfortunately on my intel graphics, exa is causing compiz to crash :( | 10:52 |
| h3sp4wn | conn: I don't care about compiz (in any way shape or form) just the rendering quality difference was the reason I used it | 10:53 |
| conn | h3sp4wn, quality? The only difference is performance and memory usage | 10:53 |
| lamalex | that counts as quality | 10:54 |
| conn | bugs aside, xaa and exa should render things identically | 10:54 |
| h3sp4wn | conn: well they didn't at that point on my card | 10:54 |
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| conn | lamalex, yep I'd agree, as long as that was the intended meaning and not "visual" quality | 10:54 |
| h3sp4wn | conn: It doesn't look identical (at least in real use) | 10:57 |
| conn | h3sp4wn, interesting... what looks different? | 10:57 |
| h3sp4wn | conn: fonts are just alot clearer with xterm | 10:57 |
| h3sp4wn | (Its only xterm as well urxvt and anothers I tried didn't have the same effect) | 10:58 |
| conn | that's interesting, but I somehow doubt it... all font rendering (subpixel or otherwise) is done by freetype/cairo, if it looks different, I guess there's a bug in XAA for your card, but I gotta say, that's unlikely. EXA is the buggy architecture at the moment | 10:59 |
| conn | on another laptop I had, there was a lot of corruption with EXA, but XAA was perfect | 10:59 |
| h3sp4wn | With exa I can get it to look like xaa | 11:00 |
| h3sp4wn | by disabling xrender | 11:00 |
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| SeveredCross | YAY SOMEONE FIXED APT! | 12:00 |
| SeveredCross | ^_^ | 12:00 |
| Disablez | jeeepa | 12:00 |
| Tretle | libcurl? | 12:00 |
| Disablez | :P | 12:00 |
| SeveredCross | I think so. | 12:00 |
| Tretle | yeay | 12:00 |
| SeveredCross | I did sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and it did everything. | 12:00 |
| SeveredCross | Actually...wait.. | 12:00 |
| SeveredCross | Maybe not. | 12:00 |
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| Tretle | awe | 12:01 |
| SeveredCross | No, no libcurl. | 12:01 |
| SeveredCross | OO.org didn't install. | 12:01 |
| SeveredCross | Yeah, OO.org is still down for the count. | 12:01 |
| Tretle | is the libcurl package comming up in update manager for you at all? | 12:01 |
| SeveredCross | Still, ubuntu-desktop installs fine though. | 12:01 |
| SeveredCross | Hmm, nope | 12:01 |
| Tretle | did you install libcurl three | 12:02 |
| SeveredCross | Yep. | 12:02 |
| SeveredCross | I have 7.16.2-ubuntu4 | 12:02 |
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| SeveredCross | Err, 2-6ubuntu4 | 12:02 |
| SeveredCross | However libcurl4 requires 2-6ubuntu3 | 12:02 |
| Tretle | because before I installed warsow, which installed libcurl3 and uninstalled 4 and open office the new libcurl4 package was showing up in update manager | 12:02 |
| SeveredCross | Which is a totally retarded way to do dependencies | 12:02 |
| Tretle | you couldnt select it though | 12:03 |
| SeveredCross | Hmm... | 12:03 |
| SeveredCross | Yeah, I have the same issue. | 12:03 |
| SeveredCross | It's because it can't figure out how to install libcurl4 | 12:03 |
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| SeveredCross | Since libcurl4-blah depends on exactly libcurl3-7.16.2-6ubuntu3 but libcurl4 is -6ubuntu4 | 12:03 |
| SeveredCross | Err, libcurl 3 is .... | 12:03 |
| Tretle | so they lied when they said backwards compatable | 12:05 |
| SeveredCross | IMHO, it's a situation of somebody fucked up the package. | 12:05 |
| PriceChild | libcurl was upgraded... | 12:06 |
| SeveredCross | There's no reason why it should be specifically dependent on 6ubuntu3 and not work with 6ubuntu4. | 12:06 |
| PriceChild | in debian | 12:06 |
| SeveredCross | PriceChild: Try installing OO.org and you'll see what we're talking about. | 12:06 |
| PriceChild | ubuntu took the changes | 12:06 |
| PriceChild | debian realised the api had changed in ways they thought wouldn't | 12:06 |
| PriceChild | so they reverted | 12:06 |
| PriceChild | we still haven't reverted... | 12:06 |
| PriceChild | patience and an updated libcurl3 and things will be sorted ) | 12:07 |
| Tretle | so we arnt actually going to use libcurl4 in gutsy? | 12:07 |
| pvandewyngaerde | is it safe to remove libcurl4 ? | 12:08 |
| PriceChild | it will require a lot more tweaking of other packages to use libcurl4 | 12:08 |
| PriceChild | libcurl4 itself isn't "broken"... no need to remove it | 12:08 |
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| pvandewyngaerde | a few days ago i got this http://pietervandewyngaerde.googlepages.com/updatewrong.png now i get this http://pietervandewyngaerde.googlepages.com/update10-07.png looks o lot better now | 12:11 |
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| neoncode | How unstable is Gutsy right now? I mean does it crash after 5 seconds or does it give you time to check your E-Mail first? | 12:24 |
| PriceChild | neoncode, don't use gutsy | 12:24 |
| SeveredCross | I wouldn't say it's exactly unstable. | 12:24 |
| PriceChild | it is alpha, for developers and bug triagers etc. | 12:24 |
| SeveredCross | But it's a bit broken. | 12:24 |
| PriceChild | if you want to read your email | 12:24 |
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| neoncode | PriceChild: I know, But I don't plan to use it exclusively. | 12:25 |
| PriceChild | then use feisty | 12:25 |
| PriceChild | !away > Karark|away | 12:25 |
| PriceChild | use feisty | 12:26 |
| PriceChild | the fact that you're even asking about it suggests you shouldn't | 12:26 |
| neoncode | I'm just wondering how broken it currently is. | 12:26 |
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| pvandewyngaerde | i use gutsy as my daily os | 12:27 |
| eagles0513875 | same here | 12:27 |
| pvandewyngaerde | but i just surf'n'chat | 12:27 |
| eagles0513875 | lol | 12:27 |
| eagles0513875 | i like always trying new stuff | 12:28 |
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| eagles0513875 | lol im tryign to even find some more people than what i already have to develop a new kubuntu version | 12:28 |
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