[01:16] <maelcum> hi! i have a box of kubuntu cds that i want to distribute at my university in a more effective way than just throw them on some tables and hope for the best. any hints?
[01:18] <Burgundavia> maelcum: absolutely
[01:19] <Burgundavia> for cds, remember that they cost money and thus try and give them out to peopel who are useful
[01:19] <Burgundavia> I would print off some pamphlets and leave those out
[01:19] <Burgundavia> whenever you engage somebody in conversation and they seem interested, give them a cd
[01:22] <maelcum> well... i have a whole box and i'm willing to invest about 2 hours at university and about as much at home... and i hate the people standing in your way and handing stuff out to you (happens a lot at my uni), and i'd hate even more to do it myself. it's probably the most effective use of cds, but not of my time :/
[01:23] <maelcum> i develop kde in my spare time, so it's not like i'm slacking off when i'm not distributing cds :)
[01:38] <Admiral_Chicago> the best thing I have found is get people interest in an actual conversation
[01:38] <Admiral_Chicago> and people will ask questions
[01:40] <maelcum> i can do that in some cases... i'll just make sure to always carry some cds with in my backpack ;)
[01:40] <maelcum> s/with/with me/
[01:52] <Admiral_Chicago> thats a good idea as well
[03:10] <beuno> jenda: ping
[03:40] <jenda> beuno: pong!
[03:40] <jenda> beuno: best time to ping me :)
[03:54] <Burgundavia> jenda: can you post the latest uwn to the forums?
[04:09] <Vorian> Burgundavia, I can if you like
[04:38] <Bassetts> hey jenda 
[04:42] <beuno> alright, turns out I can't sleep
[04:43] <Bassetts> beuno, late there?
[04:43] <beuno> Bassetts: almost 5am
[04:43] <Bassetts> almost 4 here
[04:46] <Bassetts> I may aswell stay up all night or I will never but up in time for my parcel
[04:47] <beuno> Bassetts: good night then  :D
[04:47] <Bassetts> trying to sleep again beuno ?
[04:47] <Bassetts> night
[04:48] <beuno> Bassetts: no, I'm not sleeping tonight, I have meetings in a few hours
[04:48] <beuno> thought you where
[04:48] <Bassetts> no
[04:49] <Bassetts> If I go to sleep I will not be up for my parcel
[04:51] <beuno> Bassetts: right, we're in the same situation then  :p
[04:51] <Bassetts> beuno, the want to sleep but cannot group?
[04:53] <beuno> absolutely
[05:03] <Bassetts> suppose I could update a few wiki pages
[05:04] <Bassetts> like the one jenda assigned me
[05:07] <beuno> ah, if jenda assigned you something, I would do it as fast as possible, he's a very impacient person...
[05:07] <beuno> er
[05:07] <beuno> r/sents/sets
[05:07] <Bassetts> beuno, heh, trying my best, first project and I always feel I am doing it wrong
[05:08] <beuno> Bassetts: what did you get assigned?
[05:08] <Bassetts> the diy website print page
[05:08] <Bassetts> MarketingTeam/DIYWebsite/Print
[05:08] <beuno> Bassetts: aaaah, cool  :D
[05:08] <beuno> we really want that
[05:08] <Bassetts> beuno, I am struggling
[05:10] <Bassetts> beuno, how do I link to something in the wiki e.g. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=UbuntuLogo.png
[05:11] <beuno> Bassetts: link or show the image in the wiki?
[05:11] <Bassetts> link
[05:12] <Bassetts> all I can get it to do is show it
[05:13] <beuno> Bassetts: something like this:   you can see the [ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=UbuntuLogo.png Ubuntu Logo]  blah blah blah'
[05:13] <Bassetts> ahh
[05:13] <Bassetts> thanks beuno 
[05:14] <beuno> np
[05:14] <Bassetts> there doesnt seem to be much stuff suitable for printing
[09:56] <jenda> beuno: :D
[10:05] <Bassetts> hey jenda 
[10:05] <Bassetts> I got some more of that wiki page done last night, but theres not as much stuff around as I first though
[10:05] <Bassetts> *thought
[10:19] <jenda> hmm
[10:19] <jenda> heya :)
[10:20] <jenda> (took me a long time to come up with that)
[10:22] <jenda> Bassetts: there's a ton of stuff at diy.devubuntu.com/repo/spreadubuntu
[10:22] <jenda> but for some reason, it's down now :(
[10:22] <jenda> And I'll be awaf for about a week.
[10:22] <jenda> Perhaps you can find out why, for me :)
[10:23] <jenda> The people to talk to are MitchM, the owner of the server and Dan Buch (meatballhat), whom you've already met.
[10:26] <Bassetts> jenda, I will do my best =)
[10:28] <jenda> thanks :)
[10:31] <Bassetts> jenda, any leads on where to find them
[10:35] <jenda> Bassetts: either right here when they come, or...
[10:38] <jenda> by email: mitch kci.net ; meatballhat ubuntu.com
[10:38] <jenda> but probably try meatballhat first
[10:38] <jenda> bah
[10:38] <Bassetts> ok
[10:38] <jenda> Bassetts: nevermind, I just realised I have to write Dan an email anyway.
[10:38] <jenda> So I'll ask :)
[10:39] <Bassetts> okie dokie
[12:01] <jenda> juliux: ping
[12:02] <juliux> jenda, pong
[12:03] <Vorian> jenda juliux, beep
[12:03] <Vorian> :)
[12:03] <juliux> hey Vorian 
[12:03] <Vorian> hi
[12:04] <n2diy> ! ubotu
[12:04] <jenda> aai
[12:04] <jenda> juliux: got that contract-thingy anywhere?
[12:04] <n2diy> the bot is ill, hope he recovers soon.
[12:04] <juliux> jenda, which contract-thing?
[12:04] <jenda> juliux: the loco thing? :)
[12:05] <juliux> jenda, which loco one?
[12:05] <jenda> O_o
[12:05] <juliux> jenda, that one that allows us to use the trademarks?
[12:05] <jenda> the contract between the Ubuntu DE association and canonical?
[12:05] <jenda> yep
[12:05] <Vorian> n2diy, the bot is on another freenode server that has split
[12:06] <n2diy> Vorian: so he is on vacation?
[12:06] <Vorian> I wish there was someone on freenode staff around to check that out
[12:06] <juliux> jenda, http://verein.ubuntu-de.org/file/agreement/pdf/
[12:06] <jenda> nah
[12:06] <jenda> juliux: thx
[12:06] <Vorian> n2diy, net split > hasen't re merged
[12:06] <jenda> juliux: nothing there
[12:07] <n2diy> Vorian: gnomefreak in on it.
[12:07] <juliux> jenda, http://verein.ubuntu-de.org/verein/ and then klick on Vereinbarung
[12:07] <jenda> haha
[12:07] <jenda> right
[12:07] <jenda> now I have about 10 .pdfs on my desktop :)
[12:07] <jenda> thx
[12:08] <Vorian> jenda, clarke.freenode.net is where ubotu is ATM\
[12:09] <jenda> Vorian: and...? ;)
[12:09] <Vorian> it's split :(
[12:10] <n2diy> Vorian: why is Ubotu playing with ATM?
[12:10] <Vorian> money
[12:10] <Vorian> he's broke
[12:10] <jenda> juliux: "The Association shall abide by the Ubuntu trademark policy, as written at http://www.ubuntu.com/-
[12:10] <jenda> ubuntu/TrademarkPolicy/. The trademark license contained in this agreement does not give the
[12:10] <jenda> Association or the LoCo Team rights to re-license the Ubuntu trademark in any way.
[12:10] <jenda> "
[12:10] <jenda> Which basically means... the license means nothing at all ;)
[12:11] <n2diy> Vorian: ah, and I thought he was playing with asyc. transfer mode, or something like that? Bad bot!
[12:12] <Vorian> :)
[12:12] <jenda> juliux: if I read right.
[12:12] <juliux> jenda, sorry phone
[12:13] <jenda> np
[12:13] <jenda> sorry, washing dishes, bb in 20 :)
[12:15] <juliux> jenda, we have a licens and that is everything
[12:21] <jenda> juliux: the license states you have to follow the default licence: the trademark policy.
[12:22] <jenda> It's the same licence that applies to anyone. Or isn't it? Is there something the licence allows you to do that others can't?
[12:24] <jenda> Not that I can see.
[12:24] <n2diy> ! Linus :)
[12:31] <n2diy> 73, Good night, and good luck all, brb, in 10 hours.
[12:50] <juliux> jenda, i dont think so
[12:50] <juliux> jenda, but it is a free licence ;)
[12:51] <juliux> brb lunch
[12:51] <jenda> ok
[12:51] <jenda> I read it again, and I really don't get it.
[12:51] <jenda> There is no permission in there.
[12:52] <jenda> To me, it seems it doesn't give you any rights you wouldn't have otherwise.
[12:53] <jenda> juliux: who did you sign this with?
[12:53] <jenda> juliux: I'd like to discuss with them if there's something I don't understand.
[01:30] <beuno> nixternal: hello  :D
[01:31] <beuno> I want to have a small interview with the new MOTUs and core devs for the next UWNs, and it seems you fall under that category!
[01:32] <jenda> yo beuno 
[01:33] <jenda> beuno: I'll be gone for 6 days
[01:33] <beuno> hey jenda
[01:33] <jenda> beuno: do try to catch jono in the meantime :) Sorry I won't be of any help till I get back.
[01:33] <beuno> where are you hitchhiking to?
[01:33] <jenda> OTOH, I won't be going to Ukraine in august, which'll give me more time.
[01:33] <jenda> hehe
[01:33] <beuno> jenda: I will email him then with CC to you, so you can follow up  :D
[01:34] <jenda> beuno: dunno, depends where they'll take me :)
[01:34] <jenda> I'm packing up Mr. Lappytums now.
[01:34] <beuno> lol
[01:34] <jenda> actually, the name is Melian :D
[01:34] <beuno> ok, well, have fun  :D
[01:34] <jenda> laters
[01:35] <beuno> jenda: how about "akismet"  :p
[01:53] <juliux> jenda, ask smurf about it
[04:24] <nixternal> beuno: hello
[04:24] <beuno> hey nixternal
[04:25] <nixternal> well hello there
[04:25] <beuno> well hello there too
[04:26] <beuno> did you read ^?
[04:34] <nixternal> some about MOTU
[04:34] <nixternal> something*
[04:34] <beuno> yes, I want to send you a quick interview
[04:34] <beuno> for UWN
[04:34] <beuno> :D
[04:35] <beuno> since you're famous and all now  :p
[04:35] <nixternal> oh, sure go for it..famous nevah!
[04:35] <beuno> I don't have the questions here, but you will have them in your inbox in a while, just wanted to give you the heads up
[04:36] <nixternal> cool
[04:36] <beuno> how's the whole DD thing going?
[04:37] <nixternal> slow right now...but hopefully within the next year
[04:38] <beuno> did you get any packages in yet?
[04:39] <nixternal> got a few now
[04:40] <nixternal> plus the kde-extras stuff for Debian that I help with
[04:40] <beuno> so you're well on your way
[05:02] <elkbuntu> nixternal is famous? ... we're doomed!
[05:02] <nixternal> we have been doomed since day 1
[05:03] <nixternal> ;)
[05:03] <elkbuntu> oh right.. i forgot... i'll rephrase
[05:03] <elkbuntu> we're doomed even more!
[05:08] <elkbuntu> http://www.wayodd.com/funny-pictures2/funny-pictures-huge-burger-F27.jpg <-- not as doomed as whoever eats that though!
[05:11] <elkbuntu> nixternal, ^^
[05:13] <nixternal> holy smokes
[05:14] <elkbuntu> yeah
[05:14] <elkbuntu> i'm betting that's even more than the 30000 calorie sandwich
[05:15] <nixternal> hehe
[05:16] <nixternal> there is a restaurant just north of Chicago that serves a 5 pound burger, that thing is huge, and people actually try to eat it
[05:16] <elkbuntu> lol
[05:16] <nixternal> one of the guys I weight lift with, ate it and won $500 for finishing it in 30 minutes
[05:17] <nixternal> I couldn't get through half of it
[05:17] <elkbuntu> http://www.nanbelegorn.com/sandwich/
[05:17] <elkbuntu> 5 pound of food in 30 minutes? ugh
[05:17] <nixternal> I couldn't eat that in a day
[05:18] <nixternal> damn, guess I should quit eating fried mushrooms
[05:18] <elkbuntu> lol
[05:18] <nixternal> they are one of my staple foods though :)
[05:18] <elkbuntu> ugh... mushrooms are yuck
[05:18] <nixternal> never
[05:18] <elkbuntu> as are things that are supposed to reside in the insides of animals
[05:18] <nixternal> I try to eat half a pound a day...good source of nutrition
[05:19] <elkbuntu> not when they're fried they're not
[05:19] <elkbuntu> unless cholesterol is a nutrient in your country :
[05:19] <nixternal> hehe, well I tend to eat them raw, but every now and then, them little jerks get thrown in a tub of bubbling oil :)
[05:20] <nixternal> actually, considering the junk I eat, I can't believe my cholesterol is good
[05:20] <nixternal> I mix junk with protein shakes, vitamins, supplements, and good organic food
[05:21] <nixternal> I can't do the total weight lifting diet thing, I am not all that disciplined just yet :)
[05:21] <elkbuntu> hehe... the mere smell of mushroom makes me nauseous.
[05:21] <nixternal> come on, I live in Chicago, it is a must that you eat Polish Sausage, Hot Dogs, Gyros, and Pizza
[05:22] <elkbuntu> i live in australia and i only eat sausages and steak under duress
[05:22] <nixternal> mmmm
[05:22] <nixternal> steak
[05:22] <elkbuntu> it ranks slightly higher than sausage
[05:23] <nixternal> lol
[05:23] <nixternal> it ranks #2, only behind lobster or crab for me
[05:23] <elkbuntu> im not a red meat type of girl. seafood, chicken and pork for me kthx
[05:24] <elkbuntu> and we are waaaaaaay offtopic for this channel
[05:24] <nixternal> I can't do pork, but the rest I can
[05:24] <nixternal> elkbuntu: any topic in this channel is good though :)
[05:24] <nixternal> since it is always so quiet
[05:25] <elkbuntu> lol, good point. mdke isnt here to whip us back on topic anymore
[05:25] <nixternal> nope, mdke is to busy being whipped by the new wife
[05:25] <nixternal> oops, did I say that out loud?
[05:25] <elkbuntu> so, why not pork?
[05:25] <elkbuntu> lol
[05:26] <nixternal> never been a fan of an animal that rolls around where it does
[05:26] <elkbuntu> um... but you're fine with seafood?
[05:28] <nixternal> ya, the salt water cleans it out :)
[05:29] <elkbuntu> hahaha. nice try
[05:29] <nixternal> pork has a texture that doesn't agree with me really
[05:29] <nixternal> I will eat a pork chop every now and then though, as I can deal with it and actually enjoy it
[05:30] <nixternal> but ham I can't
[05:31] <elkbuntu> that makes a difference, yes. i'll happily eat beef in a stew or stirfry, but struggle with it as a steak
[05:31] <elkbuntu> lamb likewise
[05:32] <nixternal> orly...lamb I really enjoy, but that could be due to being previously married to greek woman
[05:32] <nixternal> and possibly one day married again to that same greek woman :)
[05:33] <nixternal> she made me eat stuff I wouldn't ever imagine, and I enjoyed it
[05:33] <elkbuntu> hehe
[05:33] <nixternal> like eggplant, my lord that is good stuff
[05:33] <elkbuntu> if cooked properly, yeah
[05:35] <nixternal> true, I couldn't do it raw I don't think
[05:35] <elkbuntu> steamed it is gross too
[05:36] <nixternal> I have never tried it steemed
[05:37] <elkbuntu> i dont recommend it
[05:39] <nixternal> hehe
[05:56] <elkbuntu> if im just going through toothpastefordinner.com archives, i think it's probably time for bed
[07:27] <dee> hello
[07:28] <dee> We (German Ubuntu News team) have send a email to the mailing list ubuntu-marketing-submissions. Unfortunately nobody has answered since.
[07:28] <dee> it is possible to receive an answer?
[07:48] <beuno> dee: I don't see any admins around, but I'll spread the word  :D
[07:49] <dee> beuno: thanks.
[07:49] <dee> you won't guess what's the topic of the mail: "better communication between Ubuntu Marketing and German-News-Team". ;)
[07:51] <beuno> dee: aaaw... the irony....
[07:52] <dee> yes... kinda funny
[07:52] <dee> or kinda sad... matter of view point
[07:54] <beuno> dee: actually, why was that not sent to the plain marketing list?
[07:57] <dee> beuno: was ist the first time.
[07:58] <dee> but because the list is closed the mails stops on teh server and an admin needs to forward it.
[07:58] <dee> some user (need to take a look at the logs) said I should send it again.
[07:58] <dee> and then I have seen the suggestion-mailing list.
[07:58] <beuno> dee: you can just subscribe and your emails will go straight through
[07:59] <beuno> but for discussions, the ubuntu-marketing is the list
[07:59] <beuno> the other is to send stories
[07:59] <dee> yes I know. but I don't want to subscribe because I do not want to discuss something there.
[07:59] <dee> I have thought it's possible to mail it directly
[08:00] <beuno> dee: then how will you participate in the discussion if you don't subscribe?
[08:00] <dee> beuno: ehrm no... I haven't thought that there must be a big discussion between the whole community. :(
[08:02] <beuno> dee: not discussion in a bad sense, just "conversation", a conversation
[08:02] <beuno> if you forward your email to me, I'll make sure it gets into the mailing list  :D
[08:05] <dee> nah, it's okay. I suppose I must subscribe... I can delete my subscription afterwards
[08:05] <beuno> dee: yes, and also, email filters are your friend  :p
[08:08] <n2diy> how much traffic does the discussion list generate?
[08:10] <beuno> n2diy: the regular one maybe has an average of 6 or 7 emails per week
[08:10] <dee> so, mail is send.
[08:10] <dee> eh, sent... I think.
[08:11] <n2diy> beuno, ok, I get more junk mail per day than that.
[08:11] <beuno> n2diy: absolutely
[08:11] <dee> ah, damn
[08:12] <beuno> dee: did you send to ubuntu-marketing?
[08:12] <dee> yes
[08:12] <dee> but forget that I first must confirm my subscription. :(
[08:12] <dee> so I will send it again
[08:12] <beuno> heh
[08:12] <beuno> :D
[08:13] <dee> so, now... finally....
[08:14] <dee> (I don't know if this phrase exists in English)
[08:14] <beuno> dee: got it  :D
[08:14] <dee> great
[08:15] <dee> so have a nice evening (or morning/day/night) :)
[08:16] <beuno> dee: thanks for the input
[08:18] <dee> no problem
[08:49] <ITDirect> hi guys, starting a shop in ZA promoting open source
[08:49] <beuno> hello ITDirect
[08:50] <ITDirect> hi there
[08:50] <beuno> promoting open source is always good, what can we help you with?
[08:50] <ITDirect> well,  need some ideas
[08:50] <ITDirect> how to go about
[08:50] <ITDirect> doing this
[08:51] <ITDirect> getting people to move from what they know to the unknown
[08:51] <beuno> ITDirect: I believe the best way to get as many ideas as possible is to send an email to the mailing list, that way you can access a lot more people then who's randomly looking in the channel
[08:52] <ITDirect> where do i mail it, to get the best responce
[08:54] <beuno> ITDirect: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[08:56] <ITDirect> thanks doing so as we speak
[08:56] <ITDirect> you from?
[08:57] <beuno> I'm from Argentina
[08:59] <ITDirect> been on irc #ubuntu 4 long?
[09:00] <ITDirect> want to gather a few geeks in ZA to come and join my launch for the shop, know any?
[09:01] <beuno> ITDirect: I don't hang out in #ubuntu specifically, but I do in over a dozend *ubuntu channels  :D   and, yes, well, I've been here for maybe year and a half
[09:01] <beuno> ITDirect: just Mark Shuttleworth  :p
[09:01] <ITDirect> maybe i should get him 2 come, know his screen name:-X
[09:01] <ITDirect> ?
[09:03] <beuno> ITDirect: maybe, but I'm not sure he's up for it, maybe send him an email:  mark@ubuntu.com
[09:06] <ITDirect> wil do that 
[09:07] <ITDirect> want to make a ubuntu install with all the apps we like and also know, for install on these retail machines, customised install
[09:08] <ITDirect> any idea
[09:08] <ITDirect> ?
[09:08] <ITDirect> so we can do better support