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bspencerMithrandir, rusty_   How is the sprint going? 05:12
rusty_fine05:14
Mithrandirrockin'05:14
bspencerhey! awake and online, how fine.05:15
bspencerrusty_, I'll send you a list of the pieces needed to get our UI into gutsy today05:16
Mithrandir\o/05:16
bspencerrusty_,  we've got some issues with the new repo building targets.  you might need to help there.05:17
bspencerrusty_, also, if you hook up with asac (is he at the sprint) you could talk to him about the browser.05:17
Mithrandirhe's at the sprint, yes05:17
bspencervery good.05:18
rusty_bspencer, what kind of problems are you seeing with building targets?05:20
bspencerrusty_, I sent a mail with my results as of late Sat.05:21
rusty_we built one this morning and booted a q1 with it 05:21
bspencerI haven't tried again today, nor hooked up with JohnV05:21
bspencerrusty_, ok.  Then I'll try again today.05:21
rusty_bspencer, i didn't understand what you were talking about with the proxy issues05:21
rusty_btw, the flash based home applet is not showing itself when i run it on the target05:22
bspencermm, not good05:22
rusty_the application area is black, but i can right click to see the flash menu, and i can start an app by clicking in the right part of the screen05:22
bspencerha, nice.05:23
rusty_bspencer, i also had to push my change to the applicaiton service 05:23
bspencerbtw, is the screen resolution 1024 or 800 ?05:23
rusty_i'm not sure if the build machine kicked off a new version since i just built it locally05:23
rusty_no05:23
rusty_it's 800x48005:23
rusty_right?05:23
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bspencerI think the Q1 can do 1024, but the 800x480 size is the one the marquee is set for currently.05:24
bspenceris the marquee showing up and not looking ugly?05:24
rusty_the marque (after installing marquee-plugins... you need to push a change to the fset), looks fine (other then the time seems to be a cut off)05:25
bspencerI pushed some changes late Saturday for the marquee05:26
bspencerhm, ok05:26
bspencerI thought I pushed the fset change05:26
bspencerI'll push again05:26
bspencertime shouldn't be cut off.  I played with that -- will check again.05:26
rusty_bspencer, did you push to the correct repository?05:26
bspencerwhat is your time now?  How long until you'll be offline?05:26
rusty_bspencer, you have a Q1, right?05:26
bspencerrusty_, yes, I worked Sat on the new repo05:27
rusty_it's only 4:30pm05:27
bspencerI have one, yes.  I'll try it with an image if I can build one.05:27
bspencerok.  8:30am here.05:27
bspencerrusty_, fyi, just put this in /etc/clock-plugin.con :   Format:%a %b %e, %l:%M%P   (also pushed)05:33
Mithrandir(I guess we'll round up at 6-ish or so and go and find some food and beer.  Or beer and food).05:33
Mithrandirrusty_: mibufobt (mobile image builder useful for other targets too)?05:44
Mithrandirsorry, mibufott05:44
bspencer"mobile image builder"  -- nice name05:48
bspencerMithrandir, targets can be added.05:49
Mithrandirwe're trying to come up with a good name as a replacement for project-builder05:49
bspenceryes, that's a good name05:49
MithrandirI think mibufott is a good name :-P05:49
Mithrandirno hits on google either05:49
bspencerha -- surprise05:49
bspencerwhat is the "ufott" part?05:49
Mithrandir"useful for other targets too"05:50
bspencer:)05:50
Mithrandirrusty mentioned that somebody might want to use it for a set-top box, for instance.05:50
Mithrandirand apparently it's close to something swear-ish in portuguese.05:51
bspencerlimb  -- Linux IMage Builder 05:54
bspencersib -- System Image Builder05:54
bspenceresib -- Embedded System Image Builder05:54
bspencersic -- System Image Creator05:55
Mithrandirsic's already taken by "simple irc client"06:00
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tkowhat would be the african word for project builder? :)06:17
Mithrandirthat's almost as precise a question as asking what the european word for project builder is. :-P06:18
tkowell, whatever the actual language was where ubuntu was picked up.. too lazy to google06:18
Mithrandirzulu, iirc06:19
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rusty_bspencer, you wouldn't happen to have something for the 'getting started' documentation that Noel is looking for, would ya?06:25
rusty_bspencer, i'm a bit behind on that 06:25
bspencerrusty_, yeah, I'll take care of it06:26
rusty_cool06:26
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agoliveiramdz_: When I told you about the chroot size to be about 355M, I forgot to clean up the apt cache so it's actually 275M, uncompressed.06:41
bspencerman, aloliveria is quick in / out06:46
bspencerrusty_, about power management ...06:47
bspencerI assume we will need to write a new ppm policy mgr UI06:47
rusty_bspencer, yea06:47
bspencerjust talked to Tariq about it06:47
bspencermaybe you can chat with pepole there about it06:47
bspencerI figure it will be a simple Hildon status bar plugin, with UI06:47
bspencerthat will talk w/dbus to the underlying PPM stuff06:48
bspencerprobably GPL06:48
rusty_bspencer, exactly what i was thinking06:48
bspencertariq said Frank will probably do it.06:48
bspencerok06:48
rusty_more like tariq and todd06:48
bspencerI'll hook them up with our sample plugins code to get them started.06:48
bspencerok.  I don't care about ownership06:48
MithrandirI've chatted with mjg59 about how gpm does it, and it is just the frontend; it uses HAL methods to start and stop bits, etc.06:51
Mithrandirso the policy is in the frontend itself06:51
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rusty_bspencer, i am about to push a pretty significant change to project-builder06:55
bspencerrusty_, ok06:56
rusty_bspencer, this moves rootstrap creation from buildtime to the first time you attempt to use the rootstrap and it doesn't exists yet06:56
rusty_bspencer, i will be off-line for a bit but will be on again after i get back to the hotel06:57
bspencersure, 06:57
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rusty_bspencer, hopefully, this doesn't break you guys06:57
bspenceryes, hopefully !06:57
rusty_i have been testing it, so i'm feeling pretty good about the change06:58
bspencerwe will certainly be using it06:58
bspencerpeople are starting to ask about that system image  :)06:58
Mithrandirrusty_: so, idea from Adam to call it mibod06:59
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Mithrandirmobile internet builder of doom06:59
rusty_:->06:59
bspencermy 2c:  I think some combination of Linux System Image Creator  or System Image Builder  (and just make the acronym work if there is a dup by using 2nd letters)07:01
bspenceror s/System/Device07:01
MithrandirLinux System System Image Builder Creator?07:01
Mithrandirlssibc07:02
Mithrandircompletely unpronouceable.07:02
bspencerbut sexy nonetheless07:02
rusty_hmm... how about "esseltegar"07:02
bspencerrusty_, let me know when your change is in for project-builder and I'll try it07:02
rusty_bspencer, i just pushed the change07:02
ian_brasilwell...linux image creation system is LICS07:08
Mithrandir"lics" give me ~1M hits on google.07:09
Mithrandirhaving something more unique would be nice.07:09
bspencermaybe 1M hits, but our tool /certain/ to be at the top of the results07:10
mdzbspencer: are you going to be joining us here this week at all?07:21
bspencermdz, unfortunately it doesn't look like it07:22
bspencermdz, which I am very sorry for!07:23
bspencermdz, if I were smarter I would have finished all my deliverables for our little project launch earlier like rusty and been on the road enjoying good company and beer07:23
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HappyCamp-Johnbobux, I have arrived :)07:24
bspencerhey HappyCamp-John 07:25
bspencerrusty_, are you still online?07:26
rusty_yes07:26
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bspenceroff-topic -- got a new video card.  What is the XConfigurator-equivalent for Feisty?08:03
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rusty_bspencer, you might want to try #ubuntu08:12
HappyCamp-Johnbspencer, Maybe here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:14
bspencerthx08:14
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jesusmarcanohey08:17
jesusmarcanogood morning08:17
jesusmarcanowhat sop08:17
bspencerrusty_, you still there?08:35
bspencerrusty_, right before you leave, let me know 08:35
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