[05:12] <bspencer> Mithrandir, rusty_   How is the sprint going? 
[05:14] <rusty_> fine
[05:14] <Mithrandir> rockin'
[05:15] <bspencer> hey! awake and online, how fine.
[05:16] <bspencer> rusty_, I'll send you a list of the pieces needed to get our UI into gutsy today
[05:16] <Mithrandir> \o/
[05:17] <bspencer> rusty_,  we've got some issues with the new repo building targets.  you might need to help there.
[05:17] <bspencer> rusty_, also, if you hook up with asac (is he at the sprint) you could talk to him about the browser.
[05:17] <Mithrandir> he's at the sprint, yes
[05:18] <bspencer> very good.
[05:20] <rusty_> bspencer, what kind of problems are you seeing with building targets?
[05:21] <bspencer> rusty_, I sent a mail with my results as of late Sat.
[05:21] <rusty_> we built one this morning and booted a q1 with it 
[05:21] <bspencer> I haven't tried again today, nor hooked up with JohnV
[05:21] <bspencer> rusty_, ok.  Then I'll try again today.
[05:21] <rusty_> bspencer, i didn't understand what you were talking about with the proxy issues
[05:22] <rusty_> btw, the flash based home applet is not showing itself when i run it on the target
[05:22] <bspencer> mm, not good
[05:22] <rusty_> the application area is black, but i can right click to see the flash menu, and i can start an app by clicking in the right part of the screen
[05:23] <bspencer> ha, nice.
[05:23] <rusty_> bspencer, i also had to push my change to the applicaiton service 
[05:23] <bspencer> btw, is the screen resolution 1024 or 800 ?
[05:23] <rusty_> i'm not sure if the build machine kicked off a new version since i just built it locally
[05:23] <rusty_> no
[05:23] <rusty_> it's 800x480
[05:23] <rusty_> right?
[05:24] <bspencer> I think the Q1 can do 1024, but the 800x480 size is the one the marquee is set for currently.
[05:24] <bspencer> is the marquee showing up and not looking ugly?
[05:25] <rusty_> the marque (after installing marquee-plugins... you need to push a change to the fset), looks fine (other then the time seems to be a cut off)
[05:26] <bspencer> I pushed some changes late Saturday for the marquee
[05:26] <bspencer> hm, ok
[05:26] <bspencer> I thought I pushed the fset change
[05:26] <bspencer> I'll push again
[05:26] <bspencer> time shouldn't be cut off.  I played with that -- will check again.
[05:26] <rusty_> bspencer, did you push to the correct repository?
[05:26] <bspencer> what is your time now?  How long until you'll be offline?
[05:26] <rusty_> bspencer, you have a Q1, right?
[05:27] <bspencer> rusty_, yes, I worked Sat on the new repo
[05:27] <rusty_> it's only 4:30pm
[05:27] <bspencer> I have one, yes.  I'll try it with an image if I can build one.
[05:27] <bspencer> ok.  8:30am here.
[05:33] <bspencer> rusty_, fyi, just put this in /etc/clock-plugin.con :   Format:%a %b %e, %l:%M%P   (also pushed)
[05:33] <Mithrandir> (I guess we'll round up at 6-ish or so and go and find some food and beer.  Or beer and food).
[05:44] <Mithrandir> rusty_: mibufobt (mobile image builder useful for other targets too)?
[05:44] <Mithrandir> sorry, mibufott
[05:48] <bspencer> "mobile image builder"  -- nice name
[05:49] <bspencer> Mithrandir, targets can be added.
[05:49] <Mithrandir> we're trying to come up with a good name as a replacement for project-builder
[05:49] <bspencer> yes, that's a good name
[05:49] <Mithrandir> I think mibufott is a good name :-P
[05:49] <Mithrandir> no hits on google either
[05:49] <bspencer> ha -- surprise
[05:49] <bspencer> what is the "ufott" part?
[05:50] <Mithrandir> "useful for other targets too"
[05:50] <bspencer> :)
[05:50] <Mithrandir> rusty mentioned that somebody might want to use it for a set-top box, for instance.
[05:51] <Mithrandir> and apparently it's close to something swear-ish in portuguese.
[05:54] <bspencer> limb  -- Linux IMage Builder 
[05:54] <bspencer> sib -- System Image Builder
[05:54] <bspencer> esib -- Embedded System Image Builder
[05:55] <bspencer> sic -- System Image Creator
[06:00] <Mithrandir> sic's already taken by "simple irc client"
[06:17] <tko> what would be the african word for project builder? :)
[06:18] <Mithrandir> that's almost as precise a question as asking what the european word for project builder is. :-P
[06:18] <tko> well, whatever the actual language was where ubuntu was picked up.. too lazy to google
[06:19] <Mithrandir> zulu, iirc
[06:25] <rusty_> bspencer, you wouldn't happen to have something for the 'getting started' documentation that Noel is looking for, would ya?
[06:25] <rusty_> bspencer, i'm a bit behind on that 
[06:26] <bspencer> rusty_, yeah, I'll take care of it
[06:26] <rusty_> cool
[06:41] <agoliveira> mdz_: When I told you about the chroot size to be about 355M, I forgot to clean up the apt cache so it's actually 275M, uncompressed.
[06:46] <bspencer> man, aloliveria is quick in / out
[06:47] <bspencer> rusty_, about power management ...
[06:47] <bspencer> I assume we will need to write a new ppm policy mgr UI
[06:47] <rusty_> bspencer, yea
[06:47] <bspencer> just talked to Tariq about it
[06:47] <bspencer> maybe you can chat with pepole there about it
[06:47] <bspencer> I figure it will be a simple Hildon status bar plugin, with UI
[06:48] <bspencer> that will talk w/dbus to the underlying PPM stuff
[06:48] <bspencer> probably GPL
[06:48] <rusty_> bspencer, exactly what i was thinking
[06:48] <bspencer> tariq said Frank will probably do it.
[06:48] <bspencer> ok
[06:48] <rusty_> more like tariq and todd
[06:48] <bspencer> I'll hook them up with our sample plugins code to get them started.
[06:48] <bspencer> ok.  I don't care about ownership
[06:51] <Mithrandir> I've chatted with mjg59 about how gpm does it, and it is just the frontend; it uses HAL methods to start and stop bits, etc.
[06:51] <Mithrandir> so the policy is in the frontend itself
[06:55] <rusty_> bspencer, i am about to push a pretty significant change to project-builder
[06:56] <bspencer> rusty_, ok
[06:56] <rusty_> bspencer, this moves rootstrap creation from buildtime to the first time you attempt to use the rootstrap and it doesn't exists yet
[06:57] <rusty_> bspencer, i will be off-line for a bit but will be on again after i get back to the hotel
[06:57] <bspencer> sure, 
[06:57] <rusty_> bspencer, hopefully, this doesn't break you guys
[06:57] <bspencer> yes, hopefully !
[06:58] <rusty_> i have been testing it, so i'm feeling pretty good about the change
[06:58] <bspencer> we will certainly be using it
[06:58] <bspencer> people are starting to ask about that system image  :)
[06:59] <Mithrandir> rusty_: so, idea from Adam to call it mibod
[06:59] <Mithrandir> mobile internet builder of doom
[06:59] <rusty_> :->
[07:01] <bspencer> my 2c:  I think some combination of Linux System Image Creator  or System Image Builder  (and just make the acronym work if there is a dup by using 2nd letters)
[07:01] <bspencer> or s/System/Device
[07:01] <Mithrandir> Linux System System Image Builder Creator?
[07:02] <Mithrandir> lssibc
[07:02] <Mithrandir> completely unpronouceable.
[07:02] <bspencer> but sexy nonetheless
[07:02] <rusty_> hmm... how about "esseltegar"
[07:02] <bspencer> rusty_, let me know when your change is in for project-builder and I'll try it
[07:02] <rusty_> bspencer, i just pushed the change
[07:08] <ian_brasil> well...linux image creation system is LICS
[07:09] <Mithrandir> "lics" give me ~1M hits on google.
[07:09] <Mithrandir> having something more unique would be nice.
[07:10] <bspencer> maybe 1M hits, but our tool /certain/ to be at the top of the results
[07:21] <mdz> bspencer: are you going to be joining us here this week at all?
[07:22] <bspencer> mdz, unfortunately it doesn't look like it
[07:23] <bspencer> mdz, which I am very sorry for!
[07:23] <bspencer> mdz, if I were smarter I would have finished all my deliverables for our little project launch earlier like rusty and been on the road enjoying good company and beer
[07:24] <HappyCamp-John> bobux, I have arrived :)
[07:25] <bspencer> hey HappyCamp-John 
[07:26] <bspencer> rusty_, are you still online?
[07:26] <rusty_> yes
[08:03] <bspencer> off-topic -- got a new video card.  What is the XConfigurator-equivalent for Feisty?
[08:12] <rusty_> bspencer, you might want to try #ubuntu
[08:14] <HappyCamp-John> bspencer, Maybe here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:14] <bspencer> thx
[08:17] <jesusmarcano> hey
[08:17] <jesusmarcano> good morning
[08:17] <jesusmarcano> what sop
[08:35] <bspencer> rusty_, you still there?
[08:35] <bspencer> rusty_, right before you leave, let me know