=== stgraber [n=stgraber@ubuntu/member/stgraber] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-080-127.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === jacob-laptop [n=jpan9@jffwpr02.jf.intel.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === CharliefJohnson [n=cfj@jffwpr02.jf.intel.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === sp3000 [n=tt@hoasb-ff0ddd00-250.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === ferulo [n=fer@a88-115-27-99.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === bobux [n=bspencer@jffwprtest.jf.intel.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === robr [n=rob@jffwprtest.jf.intel.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === cprov [n=cprov@canonical/launchpad/cprov] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === tko_ [n=tkomulai@jabber.hst.ru] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === cjwatson_ [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === amitk_ [i=amit@nat/canonical/x-6bf6d1f5bdd37a22] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === agoliveira [i=adilson@nat/canonical/x-eaa33df80c1777fa] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === rusty_ [i=rusty@nat/canonical/x-26c0c6e45334e08c] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === matt_c [n=mcroydon@137.147.45.66.cm.sunflower.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === cjwatson [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-080-127.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === stoltz [n=stoltz@vpn.nuovasystems.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === jobi [n=jobi@sipdev.ssvl.kth.se] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === adam_b [n=adam@bumble.xosia.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === tfheen [n=tfheen@aine.err.no] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === TeTeT [n=spindler@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === matt_c [n=mcroydon@137.147.45.66.cm.sunflower.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === vivijim [n=vivijim@200.184.118.132] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === vivijim [n=vivijim@200.184.118.132] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === etrunko [n=edulima@200.184.118.132] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === robr2 [n=rob@pool-71-111-120-92.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === feig [n=ejf3@87.sub-75-195-92.myvzw.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === matt_c [n=mcroydon@gozur.sunflowerbroadband.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === tko_ [n=tkomulai@jabber.hst.ru] has left #ubuntu-mobile [] === suihkulokki [i=rvoipio@nat/movial/x-dcb13e31481caf01] has left #ubuntu-mobile [] === bspencer [n=bob@jffwprtest.jf.intel.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile [05:12] Mithrandir, rusty_ How is the sprint going? [05:14] fine [05:14] rockin' [05:15] hey! awake and online, how fine. [05:16] rusty_, I'll send you a list of the pieces needed to get our UI into gutsy today [05:16] \o/ [05:17] rusty_, we've got some issues with the new repo building targets. you might need to help there. [05:17] rusty_, also, if you hook up with asac (is he at the sprint) you could talk to him about the browser. [05:17] he's at the sprint, yes [05:18] very good. [05:20] bspencer, what kind of problems are you seeing with building targets? [05:21] rusty_, I sent a mail with my results as of late Sat. [05:21] we built one this morning and booted a q1 with it [05:21] I haven't tried again today, nor hooked up with JohnV [05:21] rusty_, ok. Then I'll try again today. [05:21] bspencer, i didn't understand what you were talking about with the proxy issues [05:22] btw, the flash based home applet is not showing itself when i run it on the target [05:22] mm, not good [05:22] the application area is black, but i can right click to see the flash menu, and i can start an app by clicking in the right part of the screen [05:23] ha, nice. [05:23] bspencer, i also had to push my change to the applicaiton service [05:23] btw, is the screen resolution 1024 or 800 ? [05:23] i'm not sure if the build machine kicked off a new version since i just built it locally [05:23] no [05:23] it's 800x480 [05:23] right? === rusty_ looks at the xorg.config [05:24] I think the Q1 can do 1024, but the 800x480 size is the one the marquee is set for currently. [05:24] is the marquee showing up and not looking ugly? [05:25] the marque (after installing marquee-plugins... you need to push a change to the fset), looks fine (other then the time seems to be a cut off) [05:26] I pushed some changes late Saturday for the marquee [05:26] hm, ok [05:26] I thought I pushed the fset change [05:26] I'll push again [05:26] time shouldn't be cut off. I played with that -- will check again. [05:26] bspencer, did you push to the correct repository? [05:26] what is your time now? How long until you'll be offline? [05:26] bspencer, you have a Q1, right? [05:27] rusty_, yes, I worked Sat on the new repo [05:27] it's only 4:30pm [05:27] I have one, yes. I'll try it with an image if I can build one. [05:27] ok. 8:30am here. [05:33] rusty_, fyi, just put this in /etc/clock-plugin.con : Format:%a %b %e, %l:%M%P (also pushed) [05:33] (I guess we'll round up at 6-ish or so and go and find some food and beer. Or beer and food). [05:44] rusty_: mibufobt (mobile image builder useful for other targets too)? [05:44] sorry, mibufott [05:48] "mobile image builder" -- nice name [05:49] Mithrandir, targets can be added. [05:49] we're trying to come up with a good name as a replacement for project-builder [05:49] yes, that's a good name [05:49] I think mibufott is a good name :-P [05:49] no hits on google either [05:49] ha -- surprise [05:49] what is the "ufott" part? [05:50] "useful for other targets too" [05:50] :) [05:50] rusty mentioned that somebody might want to use it for a set-top box, for instance. [05:51] and apparently it's close to something swear-ish in portuguese. [05:54] limb -- Linux IMage Builder [05:54] sib -- System Image Builder [05:54] esib -- Embedded System Image Builder [05:55] sic -- System Image Creator [06:00] sic's already taken by "simple irc client" === ian_brasil [i=vern@nat/canonical/x-5787264ff5e387a5] has joined #ubuntu-mobile [06:17] what would be the african word for project builder? :) [06:18] that's almost as precise a question as asking what the european word for project builder is. :-P [06:18] well, whatever the actual language was where ubuntu was picked up.. too lazy to google [06:19] zulu, iirc === rusty_ [i=rusty@nat/canonical/x-df49ff50c0d8e30e] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === sabotage [n=sabotage@jffwprtest.jf.intel.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile [06:25] bspencer, you wouldn't happen to have something for the 'getting started' documentation that Noel is looking for, would ya? [06:25] bspencer, i'm a bit behind on that [06:26] rusty_, yeah, I'll take care of it [06:26] cool === agoliveira [i=adilson@nat/canonical/x-7a2296cd146ab5fb] has joined #ubuntu-mobile [06:41] mdz_: When I told you about the chroot size to be about 355M, I forgot to clean up the apt cache so it's actually 275M, uncompressed. [06:46] man, aloliveria is quick in / out [06:47] rusty_, about power management ... [06:47] I assume we will need to write a new ppm policy mgr UI [06:47] bspencer, yea [06:47] just talked to Tariq about it [06:47] maybe you can chat with pepole there about it [06:47] I figure it will be a simple Hildon status bar plugin, with UI [06:48] that will talk w/dbus to the underlying PPM stuff [06:48] probably GPL [06:48] bspencer, exactly what i was thinking [06:48] tariq said Frank will probably do it. [06:48] ok [06:48] more like tariq and todd [06:48] I'll hook them up with our sample plugins code to get them started. [06:48] ok. I don't care about ownership [06:51] I've chatted with mjg59 about how gpm does it, and it is just the frontend; it uses HAL methods to start and stop bits, etc. [06:51] so the policy is in the frontend itself === feig [n=ejf3@87.sub-75-195-92.myvzw.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile [06:55] bspencer, i am about to push a pretty significant change to project-builder [06:56] rusty_, ok [06:56] bspencer, this moves rootstrap creation from buildtime to the first time you attempt to use the rootstrap and it doesn't exists yet [06:57] bspencer, i will be off-line for a bit but will be on again after i get back to the hotel [06:57] sure, === bspencer is sad that no one is buying him free dinner tonight [06:57] bspencer, hopefully, this doesn't break you guys [06:57] yes, hopefully ! [06:58] i have been testing it, so i'm feeling pretty good about the change [06:58] we will certainly be using it [06:58] people are starting to ask about that system image :) [06:59] rusty_: so, idea from Adam to call it mibod === lmoura [n=lmoura@200.184.118.132] has joined #ubuntu-mobile [06:59] mobile internet builder of doom [06:59] :-> [07:01] my 2c: I think some combination of Linux System Image Creator or System Image Builder (and just make the acronym work if there is a dup by using 2nd letters) [07:01] or s/System/Device [07:01] Linux System System Image Builder Creator? [07:02] lssibc [07:02] completely unpronouceable. [07:02] but sexy nonetheless [07:02] hmm... how about "esseltegar" [07:02] rusty_, let me know when your change is in for project-builder and I'll try it [07:02] bspencer, i just pushed the change [07:08] well...linux image creation system is LICS [07:09] "lics" give me ~1M hits on google. [07:09] having something more unique would be nice. [07:10] maybe 1M hits, but our tool /certain/ to be at the top of the results [07:21] bspencer: are you going to be joining us here this week at all? [07:22] mdz, unfortunately it doesn't look like it [07:23] mdz, which I am very sorry for! [07:23] mdz, if I were smarter I would have finished all my deliverables for our little project launch earlier like rusty and been on the road enjoying good company and beer === HappyCamp-John [n=chatzill@jffwpr01.jf.intel.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile [07:24] bobux, I have arrived :) [07:25] hey HappyCamp-John [07:26] rusty_, are you still online? [07:26] yes === robr_laptop____ [n=chatzill@jffwprtest.jf.intel.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === robr_laptop____ is now known as robr_laptop === captainigloo [n=silent@gar31-4-82-240-198-102.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-mobile [08:03] off-topic -- got a new video card. What is the XConfigurator-equivalent for Feisty? === sabotage is now known as sabotage_afk [08:12] bspencer, you might want to try #ubuntu [08:14] bspencer, Maybe here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto [08:14] thx === jesusmarcano [n=jesusmar@201.248.192.51] has joined #ubuntu-mobile [08:17] hey [08:17] good morning [08:17] what sop [08:35] rusty_, you still there? 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