[12:01] <pr4bh> brunner: isnt it just converting stereo into surround using software based methods?
[12:01] <pr4bh> im sorry im a newbie, so i apologise if i dont make any sense
[12:01] <brunner> pr4bh: I'm not sure about VLC, but it probably depends on how many channels the audio/video file you're playing was encoded with
[12:02] <cypruser> Synaptic Package Manager is taking an awfully long time to download something. How can I shut it down?
[12:02] <brunner> if it's a stereo mp3 and it's playing on all channels, it's probably just duplicating the output
[12:02] <dr_willis> pr4bh,  if you want  the real thing - ya need a real 5.1+ source. :) not a lot of those out..
[12:02] <pr4bh> brunner: so supposing the sound file is a stereo one, then rear speakers wont work?
[12:02] <Romeo5k> QUESTION ANYONE: Anyone which operates better and nicer on Ubuntu (fiesty) server... phpmyadmin or webmin .. im using a 300MHz machine an d a noob to *nix.. so take that into consideration..
[12:02] <dirtyhand> im trying to download drivers for my laptop, but HPs website only has them in .exe files, will Ubuntu be able to run these and extract the files?
[12:02] <dr_willis> pr4bh,  thats what you are seeing.. probelry.. its only 2.1 sound.. so the rear speakers are silent.
[12:03] <n3rrd> !tls
[12:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tls - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:03] <koen> bruenig: will i keep my hfsplus permissions when tarring it from linux?
[12:03] <brunner> pr4bh: again, I'm not sure how vlc does it, but I have my myth box configured to only output on two channels when I play something that only includes two channels. if I play a 5.1 DVD, I get output on all six channels
[12:03] <rockets> dirtyhand, you cant use windows drivers in linux, except for wifi cards
[12:03] <pr4bh> dr_willis: oh.. but my mates got the same card, he plays mp3s in vista, all the bloody speakers work fine
[12:03] <rockets> dirtyhand, but you probably wont NEED drivers for most things either
[12:03] <Nergar> is there something like community council or anything like that????
[12:03] <dr_willis> pr4bh,  its up-mixing them automaticially then would be my guess.
[12:03] <bruenig> koen, tar it with p option
[12:03] <dirtyhand> rockets: thats what im trying to get the wireless for this laptop, it wont work atm, just ethernet
[12:03] <dr_willis> pr4bh,  theres plugins for the various media playes that do that.
[12:03] <brunner> I don't want my software app to pump audio to all channels. I would prefer that my receiver do that.
[12:03] <cobalt027>  this is more of a nautilus question,but: im trying to use/setup some mount/unmount
[12:03] <cobalt027>                    scripts for ISOs.. but the $NAUTILUS_SCRIPT_* variables do not seem to be getting set
[12:03] <cobalt027>                    when i run a script. What am i doing wrong?
[12:04] <rockets> dirtyhand, ok. a lot of driver files are really zip files. try changing it to .zip and extracting it
[12:04] <pr4bh> dr_willis: oh, thats a nice tip
[12:04] <cobalt027> (sorry for the multiple lines)
[12:04] <dirtyhand> ok
[12:04] <rockets> driver exe files that is
[12:04] <dirtyhand> gotcha
[12:04] <brunner> unless the source actually includes 5 or 6 channels of audio
[12:04] <dr_willis> pr4bh,  just split the wires.. :) so ya get front in the rear...
[12:04] <Nergar> is there something like community council or anything like that????
[12:04] <brunner> anyway, I'm going to assume that the ubuntu installer setup grub. I'll brb, I hope.
[12:04] <peeps_work> say i have some program installed from the repos, and I want to upgrade to the latest version available(which is not in the repos).  should I completely uninstall it first via apt-get, or can I make install over the existing install?
[12:04] <HOT>  Nergar what do you mean?
[12:04] <dirtyhand> hmm
[12:04] <dirtyhand> i renamed to .zip but I cant double click openit
[12:04] <rockets> dirtyhand, nono
[12:04] <rockets> dirtyhand, unzip it from the terminal
[12:05] <dirtyhand> ok
[12:05] <pr4bh> dr_willis: hmm..
[12:05] <rockets> dirtyhand, unzip filename.zip
[12:05] <dirtyhand> kk
[12:05] <rockets> put it in a folder first dirtyhand
[12:05] <rockets> directory rather
[12:05] <pr4bh> dr_willis: i dont think i have the guts to mess with the wires
[12:05] <dirtyhand> ok
[12:05] <Nergar> i had a problem with an official loco team
[12:05] <HOT> Nergar: from Ubuntu?
[12:05] <Nergar> yes
[12:06] <HOT> Nergar: a problem they are helping you with?
[12:06] <dirtyhand> rockets: unzip wont work
[12:06] <pr4bh> dr_willis: ill read a bit more on alsa's website, see if i can get the rear speakers to work (upmixing or whatever technique it can use)
[12:06] <dr_willis> pr4bh,  phht! its just speaker wires!
[12:06] <rockets> dirtyhand, ok. theres still a way
[12:06] <dr_willis> not like its 440V! :)
[12:06] <rockets> dirtyhand, what laptop model and wifi card is it
[12:06] <pr4bh> dr_willis: lol, they cost me 100 quid mate!
[12:06] <Nergar> HOT, a problem with an op of #ubuntu-es
[12:06] <dr_willis> bah. ya cant hurt them.. perhaps.. :)
[12:06] <peeps_work> what's the best way to upgrade an app to the latest versoin, when the repos are not carrying the latest version?
[12:06] <pr4bh> dr_willis: hehe, just a poor student here!
[12:06] <HOT> Nergar: you want to complain about an op?
[12:06] <Nergar> yes
[12:07] <dr_willis> peeps_work,  use the source.. and isntall as a user. to the users home dir. is the safest way.
[12:07] <dirtyhand> rockets: Laptop: HP pavillion ze4900 /  Wireless: Broadcom product: BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller
[12:07] <HOT> Nergar: on the forums under the irc link is an email for abuse, send something to that
[12:07] <dr_willis> peeps_work,  that way the user can use the newer version. but the old verisonis still there systemwide
[12:07] <pr4bh> ok thanks dr_willis and brunner
[12:07] <pr4bh> ill see what i can do
[12:07] <rockets> dirtyhand, haha yeah. good ol' broadcom
[12:07] <dirtyhand> :P
[12:07] <rockets> dirtyhand, gimmie 2 mins, dont go anywhere
[12:07] <Nergar> ok thnx
[12:07] <dirtyhand> yep, do your thing
[12:07] <HOT> dirtyhand: actually your lucky mate, its pretty simple
[12:07] <peeps_work> dr_willis, how do i tell the install to put in my user home/?
[12:08] <peeps_work> i just usually do ./configure && make && sudo make install
[12:08] <dirtyhand> kk
[12:08] <HOT> dirtyhand: are you using 7.04?
[12:08] <dr_willis> peeps_work,  when you compile it. You can give ./configure some options.
[12:08] <dirtyhand> yes sir
[12:08] <HOT> dirtyhand: your laughing then, its takes like 10 seconds, but rockets probly getting the link
[12:08] <dirtyhand> :) go ahead and tellme
[12:09] <numus> awesome got intellimouse workin
[12:09] <peeps_work> dr_willis, how can i know what options i need to give it
[12:09] <rockets> HOT, im booting up windows in a virtualmachine to get at the files
[12:09] <pr4bh> dr_willis: oh btw, how to change the card type in alsamixer (console thingie)
[12:09] <HOT> rockets: no need mate, there is a script that will do it for you, gimme a sec
[12:09] <rockets> HOT, dont tell me, tell dirtyhand
[12:10] <dr_willis> pr4bh,  no idea. I dont switch cards. :) thres a bot !alsa url
[12:10] <dr_willis> !alsa
[12:10] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[12:10] <HOT> searching...
[12:10] <xyl> hi
[12:10] <pr4bh> ok cheers
[12:10] <Fezzler> My Ubuntu pc has been freezing up after months of running very well.
[12:10] <xyl> it seems beryl has disabled some of my keys like alt-gr and the windows key. how can i fix this?
[12:11] <dr_willis> Fezzler,  whens the last time ya dusted out the insides of the pc?
[12:11] <Fezzler> Most notably I notice a longer delay after I login and nautilus loading.
[12:11] <dr_willis> Fezzler,  mine was doing that the other day.. it had a Dust-Godzilla in it. :)
[12:11] <HOT> searching....
[12:11] <Fezzler> I also notice the time before my desktop image loads is longer
[12:11] <unitheory> i work tech support at school and so many computers just need dusting
[12:11] <rockets> God damn it I hate Ex Falso, keeps crashing gnome
[12:12] <cycom> Anyone get the horizontal scroll working on a bluetooth mighty mouse in ubuntu?
[12:12] <cobalt027> whats a good system nonitor for X?
[12:12] <HOT> dirtyhand: i will give you the super quick version, open synaptec and search for bcm43xx-fwcutter
[12:12] <cobalt027> the gnome-system-monitor is boring....
[12:13] <peeps_work> htop baby!
[12:13] <HOT> htop IS cool
[12:13] <peeps_work> htop is HOT
[12:13] <Fezzler> My most resent activity has been changing permissions of my home folder, installing recordmydesktop and fixing the $HOME /.dmrc being ignored issue
[12:13] <peeps_work> ;)
[12:13] <Nutubuntu> audacity gives me "Error while opening sound device" when I try to play an mp3. How do I get around this error?
[12:13] <Sonicadvance1> HA
[12:13] <cycom> I keep trying what I find in google, and I'll be darned if it has helped one bit.  The only thing I haven't tried is partching the kernel, because the patch is out of date (i think)
[12:13] <Fezzler> Any ideas or suggestion for things to check (other than dust in my case ha ha)
[12:13] <Sonicadvance1> I found out why I can't use Firestarter with the network card I have
[12:13] <dirtyhand> HOT: ok sorry was afk
[12:14] <dirtyhand> HOT: doing that now
[12:14] <Sonicadvance1> It doesn't seem to work with Ubuntu :D
[12:14] <cobalt027> htop - har har har... how about for X?
[12:14] <HOT> dirtyhand: "sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter" should do it
[12:14] <dirtyhand> kk
[12:14] <HOT> cobalt027: conky is pretty groovy and runs on desktop
[12:14] <xyl> any idea why beryl would work fine (fglrx, xgl) - meaning moving windows around works fluently, but resizing them is darn slow?
[12:14] <cycom> xyl: that's a question for ubuntu-effects, I think.
[12:15] <HOT> xyl: i cant remember why, but thats as known bug with a known fix
[12:15] <dirtyhand> HOT: its done, now what?
[12:15] <HOT> dirtyhand: did it not prompt you for anything?
[12:15] <cobalt027> xyl - i had a similiar performance problem.
[12:15] <cobalt027> i disabled "blurring" and it REALLY helped
[12:15] <dirtyhand> yes a blue screen with yes/no about extracting
[12:15] <peeps_work> cobalt027, maybe if you articulate what exactly is wrong with gnome-system-monitor, someone could suggest something "better"
[12:15] <cycom> blurring just made my eyes hurt anyhow
[12:15] <HOT> dirtyhand: just keep saying yes, it should reboot you
[12:15] <dirtyhand> I selected yes,and it went through
[12:15] <HOT> oh right, no errors?
[12:15] <dirtyhand> its done but it didnt reboot me
[12:15] <Fezzler> okay, I'll try a more specific question.  Is there a way to check what is deamons/software are loading when I log in?
[12:16] <HOT> ok reboot and you should be good to go
[12:16] <HOT> wait
[12:16] <Fezzler> Oh, I've been messing with my sound recorder too.
[12:16] <dirtyhand> waiting
[12:16] <cobalt027> peeps_work: i dunno - its just...... boring. looks too windows like
[12:16] <legal_sized2> Hi room. I'm trying to get Bind9 to work. but I keep getting an error of "Jul  8 14:56:12 legal-sized named[3841] : zone legal-sized.com/IN: loading master file named.legal-sized.com: file not found".  I'm guessing a path is not right, or maybe a permissions thing? Any ideas on how I can check?
[12:16] <HOT> keep an eye on the green lights, if they go faint green or solid green its working (if you have a PCMCIA card that it)
[12:16] <capnfantasmo> how do I see the userlist on xchat?
[12:16] <dirtyhand> HOT: huh?
[12:17] <HOT> dirtyhand: is your card internal or external?
[12:17] <cobalt027> capnfantasmo: /who ??
[12:17] <dirtyhand> internal
[12:17] <theshadow> what does it mean when apt-get says The following packages have been kept back: linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic
[12:17] <HOT> dirtyhand: ah just reboot then, it should be cool beans
[12:17] <theshadow> ?
[12:17] <dirtyhand> kk
[12:17] <dirtyhand> rebootingz!
[12:17] <Fezzler> /top
[12:17] <numus> how do i install an exe with wine?
[12:18] <HOT> "wine example.exe"
[12:18] <theshadow> numus: normally you should ask the nice folks in #wine . But since I'm here wine myapp.exe
[12:18] <cobalt027> numus: OR winfile - then find it, and 2x click
[12:18] <Fezzler> /stats op
[12:18] <cobalt027> winefile that is
[12:18] <numus> thank you so much
[12:18] <numus> trying to install orb
[12:18] <ShackJack> Hi - just wondering - is a firewall (firestarter) necessary for the average 'net surfer using Ubuntu, what with the way iptables are set up?
[12:19] <numus> anyone know of an activesync for linux?
[12:19] <erdinger_> numus, what is orb
[12:19] <erdinger_> ?
[12:19] <HOT> ShackJack: thats a can of worms, i would say no
[12:19] <numus> video stream program
[12:19] <theshadow> ShackJack: Personally ... No.
[12:19] <HOT> ShackJack: are you behind a hardware firewall?
[12:19] <ianmcorvidae> I use firestarter for one reason only: I'm a paranoid little freak.
[12:19] <ShackJack> HOT: Mmm... not sure, I have a Comcast cable modem and a Linksys setup...
[12:19] <ianmcorvidae> Standard user, I wouldn't say bother.
[12:20] <stetran> anyone know why my beryl stoped working?
[12:20] <Fezzler> It just locked up on me again.  It seems to happen when I use functions that require file manager
[12:20] <HOT> ShackJack: the linksys should be doing a lot of the legwork, at least NATing you
[12:20] <numus> no one is in wine
[12:20] <r0b-> nixternal
[12:20] <numus> how do i run the program now..
[12:20] <Fezzler> I've been hitting Ctrl Alt Backspace to un-freeze and then re-logging in.
[12:20] <legal_sized2> I got hacked while using RedHat, I plan on using FireStarter soon.
[12:21] <phoenix_> whoami
[12:21] <dirtyhand> HOT: i dont think that did it, now wireless doesn't even show up
[12:21] <ShackJack> HOT - yeah looking at it, it blocks anonymous net reqyests, Filter Multicast, Filter IDENT(Port 113)...   Filter Internet NAT Redirection - is **not** checked... you recommend it should be?
[12:21] <Fezzler> But then I get black blue screen with a grey screen in upper left.  Cursor changes in upper left to the kind one uses with a text tool
[12:21] <dirtyhand> when I go to networks it now only has ethernet and modem
[12:21] <Fezzler> Any ideas?
[12:21] <numus> env WINEPREFIX="/home/ericlieberman/.wine" wine "C:\Program Files\Orb Networks\Orb\bin\OrbTray.exe"
[12:22] <HOT> ShackJack: just run a basic port scan using something like www.shieldsup.com
[12:22] <cobalt027> numus: winefile - find it in .wine/drive_c/program files/blah blahb albh
[12:22] <Zasch> How is it that I modify my startup such that it will automatically run options without me having to type them in each time in GRUB?
[12:22] <HOT> wait thats a bogus url
[12:22] <numus> i dont think this is going to work
[12:22] <Zasch> That is to say: How do I make it so it runs "noapic" every time I turn it on?
[12:22] <ShackJack> HOT - I don't think that's the right site ;)
[12:23] <HOT> ShackJack: google "shields up"
[12:23] <neztiti> guys what is that mean   cp -R
[12:23] <Nutubuntu> How can I get sound to work in audacity? It doesn't seem to want to play ... :(
[12:23] <numus> nope this wont work
[12:23] <cobalt027> numus: i couldnt get MS MONEY to install.. :(
[12:24] <numus> true
[12:24] <Fezzler> If this app (Gaim) is working as is Beryl, Network, Sound Volume (etc. apps) but all the GNOME stuff seems frozen????
[12:24] <ShackJack> HOT - K - thanx never heard of that one... though I'll prolly get about a million Trek references as well :)
[12:24] <numus> now i cant' get the program to close down
[12:24] <HOT> heh, its a quick and nasty port scan you can run against yourself
[12:24] <numus> brb
[12:24] <Bakkar> allo, I am still having a problem with Enemy Territory even after the Help guide, anyone got an issue for ET on Feisty Fawn 7.04?
[12:25] <TurkishRock> hello
[12:25] <Fezzler> By GNOME I mean "Applications Places System"; Desktop tool in lower left and Trash...all frozen.
[12:26] <numus> that is the easy way to close it down hehehe
[12:26] <Bakkar> !offtopic
[12:26] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:27] <Fezzler> Oh, this isn't the random chatter channel??  Fooled me.
[12:27] <Zasch> How do I make it so it runs "noapic" every time I turn it on?
[12:27] <TurkishRock> *Linux, *Ubuntu, turkish, *Link, bee, ?
[12:27] <Fezzler> Is Ctrl Alt Backspace the proper process for unfreezing GNOME/Nautilus?
[12:27] <macogw-is-a-girl> Zasch: sudo gedit /boot/grub/sources.list
[12:27] <rabidweezle_> !dvd
[12:27] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:27] <macogw-is-a-girl> Zasch: i men sources.lst
[12:27] <macogw-is-a-girl> Zasch: find the line that says # defoptions
[12:27] <Bakkar> !games
[12:27] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[12:28] <macogw-is-a-girl> Zasch:  and at the end add noapic
[12:28] <neztiti> guys what is that mean   cp -R
[12:28] <macogw-is-a-girl> Zasch: then save it and "sudo update-grub"
[12:28] <macogw-is-a-girl> neztiti: copy recursively
[12:28] <numus> anyone know a way to use a lexmark printer and scanner in ubuntu
[12:28] <Zasch> macogw-is-a-girl: What are the consequences of noapic?
[12:28] <macogw-is-a-girl> Zasch: suspend and hibernate don't work
[12:29] <dirtyhand> HOT: ok m back, but installing that thing you told me didnt work, It doesnt even detect my wireless card now
[12:29] <Zasch> macogw-is-a-girl: Do you know what an error that says "MP-BIOS Bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC" means?
[12:29] <d2812> does anyone know how I can mimic OS X's Portable Home Directories between an ubuntu laptop and ubuntu server?
[12:29] <macogw-is-a-girl> Zasch: nope
[12:29] <TurkishRock> Turkish, *
[12:29] <TurkishRock> , *Link, look for,
[12:29] <TurkishRock> ununtu?
[12:30] <dr_willis> d2812,  describe what it does..
[12:30] <legal_sized2> Anyone here good with Bind9? I"m having conf problems
[12:30] <Zasch> macogw-is-a-girl: When I enter the commands you told me to, the document comes up but it is blank. Is tihs normal?
[12:30] <neztiti> macogw-is-a-girl:  and this  cp -Rv
[12:30] <LucianIndy> Zasch, whats bind9
[12:30] <macogw-is-a-girl> Zasch: it shouldnt be blank. did you put .lst or .list because i messed up the first time typing it
[12:31] <legal_sized2> sets up name servers
[12:31] <macogw-is-a-girl> Zasch: "sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[12:31] <legal_sized2> Bind 9 sets up name servers
[12:31] <Zasch> LucianIndy: I don't know what "bind9" refers to
[12:31] <cypher1> how do i make usb headphones work with firefox ?
[12:31] <macogw-is-a-girl> Zasch: oh crap i said sources before :p sorry
[12:31] <macogw-is-a-girl> neztiti: check the manpage
[12:31] <LucianIndy> zasch, my bad wrong nick
[12:31] <Fezzler> When I press Ctrl Alt F4 and then come back (Ctrl Alt F7) my GNOME is gone except desktop image and running apps?
[12:31] <macogw-is-a-girl> Fezzler: thats not supposed to happen, and i dont know how to fix it
[12:32] <d2812> dr_willis: Have pm'd you.
[12:32] <farrel> hello everyone
[12:32] <dr_willis> i saw it.. looks like Tech0talk from apple. :)
[12:32] <macogw-is-a-girl> Fezzler: ctrl alt backspace restarts X
[12:32] <dr_willis> d2812,  it keeps your HOME on a remote server basiucially?
[12:32] <Condoulo> Is it possible to register a nick
[12:32] <macogw-is-a-girl> Condoulo: yes
[12:32] <getisboy> !register | Condoulo
[12:32] <ubotu> Condoulo: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[12:33] <d2812> dr_willis: thats right, and automatically performs incremental backups when data is changed as far as I understand it.
[12:33] <macogw-is-a-girl> Fezzler: i dont know why your panels are freezing. how much ram do you have? are there a lot of applets on the panels?  is a lot of other junk running?
[12:33] <Zasch> macogw-is-a-girl: Do I put "defoptions = noapic" or do I just put "noapic"?
[12:33] <Fezzler> Mac: can I restart X from comamnd line?  Ctrl Alt F4 and run a command line command?
[12:33] <Condoulo> I've done it at Wyldryde, but Freenode has been giving me trobules
[12:33] <tim_abell> rhythmbox has started not donloading the whole of podcasts :( anyone got any ideas / had the same problem? it's driving me nuts.
[12:33] <macogw-is-a-girl> Zasch: it should say "# defoptions = quiet splash" right now. make it say "# defoptions = quiet splash nopaic"
[12:33] <d2812> dr_willis: That way, you can take you other machine away, do some work, then when you reconnect, it updates the version on the server.
[12:33] <tim_abell> downloading
[12:34] <macogw-is-a-girl> Zasch:  make it say "# defoptions = quiet splash noapic"
[12:34] <dr_willis> d2812,  i saw a 'mini-linux' machine that had a similer subscription service.. but that was just for their machine. Not seen a gereric way to do it with Linux. I recall the SLAX livecd. had a similer feature. but that may of just been for settings.
[12:34] <Fezzler> I have about 640 meg of ram
[12:34] <ilikec0ws> Fezzler, /etc/conf.d/xdm stop && /etc/conf.d/xdm start
[12:34] <Condoulo> Ah, there
[12:34] <ilikec0ws> Fezzler, I think :)
[12:34] <Fezzler> I don't think a lot of junk is running
[12:34] <Chiel> small problem: after installing ubuntu, my network card got all settings from DHCP, internal ip, etc.. everything worked, except the DNS-thingies. I could ping my ADSL-modem, I could connect to my other pc.. just couldn't connect to websites, since it couldn't find the right address.. any suggestions ?
[12:34] <macogw-is-a-girl> Fezzler: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:34] <PirateLeChuck> which command should i use to see which services are running?
[12:35] <ilikec0ws> Fezzler, Guess thats stupid gentoo with its different locations :) follow what macogw-is-a-girl said
[12:35] <macogw-is-a-girl> PirateLeChuck: ps -e will show them all with their PID. if you want to see how much resources they're all using, use "top"
[12:35] <peeps_work> goddammit i can't visit more than two pages before firefox crashes
[12:35] <dr_willis> htop is nice also.
[12:35] <rabidweezle_> note to whoever would be in charge of this sort of thing, in the dvd software page: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html it says: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh to install dvd decoding, when it's not in the examples folder in feisty, but the main libdvdread3 folder
[12:36] <macogw-is-a-girl> peeps_work: try kazehakase if you want another gecko-rendering browser.  if you dont mind proprietary browsers, opera is fast
[12:36] <d2812> dr_willis: I think I remember the same machine.  Would have been a nice easy auto backup system to run on my desktop.
[12:36] <macogw-is-a-girl> rabidweezle_: thats a wiki, isnt it?
[12:36] <PirateLeChuck> macogw-is-a-girl, not a process a service
[12:37] <PirateLeChuck> !servuce
[12:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about servuce - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:37] <PirateLeChuck> !servuce
[12:37] <PirateLeChuck> i
[12:37] <macogw-is-a-girl> !service
[12:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about service - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:37] <PirateLeChuck> !service
[12:37] <tmccrary> What the hell is up with the new -16 kernel. It's breaking everything
[12:37] <rabidweezle_> no macogw-is-a-girl
[12:37] <macogw-is-a-girl> tmccrary: it was a bug-fix kernel...
[12:37] <peeps_work> i need firefox for my work.  it worked fine on fedora core 5, but now that I tried to put ubuntu on my computer it is the least stable app i have ever seen
[12:37] <rabidweezle_> else I would have changed it myself
[12:38] <tmccrary> yeah, well it brakes everything on most of the systems I've seen it on. Nvidia, wacom, etc.
[12:38] <macogw-is-a-girl> tmccrary: because nvidia cards and texas instruments card readers werent working right with -15. if -16 isnt working for you, uninstall it and use -15
[12:38] <peeps_work> i never know how to troubleshoot these things when they happen though
[12:38] <tmccrary> what the hell were the ubuntu maintainers thinking of when they released that
[12:38] <zcat[1] > is there a package for the nvidia 8421 drivers I can use in feisty? The card won't work with the current 9xxx drivers and legacy drivers suck, but it should work with 8421 because it's using that in 'doze
[12:38] <peeps_work> i really don't want to go back to fedora core
[12:38] <richard> im having this problem with my wireless adapter using feisty
[12:38] <Nutubuntu> How can I get sound to work in audacity? It doesn't seem to want to play ... :(
[12:39] <macogw-is-a-girl> tmccrary: as far as i'm aware the only changes were to update the sd card reader modules because they were broken and fix nvidia.
[12:39] <richard> this shows all the networks but it wont connect
[12:39] <zcat[1] > I don't want to use the binary installer either..
[12:39] <peeps_work> macogw-is-a-girl, does that browser support firefox extensions?
[12:39] <richard> im using a belkin wireless adapter
[12:39] <macogw-is-a-girl> tmccrary: im not sure how that would break wacom, but have you checked your xorg?
[12:39] <tim_abell> anyone know how to persuade rhythmbox to download the *whole* podcast after having decided that 20mins is enough for me?
[12:39] <teer2> peeps_work: are you seeing instability with Flash Player, maybe?
[12:39] <richard> anyone know what i should do to fix this
[12:40] <macogw-is-a-girl> peeps_work: opera has extensions of its own a think, but you should try disabling the extensions you have installed and see if it's still unstable, then add one at a time to see if one of them is causing it
[12:40] <teer2> peeps_work: Because firefox is very stable for me - but I don't use Flash because there is no 64-bit version
[12:40] <peeps_work> teer2, seems like just about every page, i don't think it's just flassh
[12:40] <macogw-is-a-girl> richard: which one?
[12:40] <tmccrary> macogw-is-a-girl: Yeah, it's fine with -15 but -16 acts like the drivers don't load. Looks like maybe they broke the binary interface and didn't update the modules for some drivers
[12:40] <pr4bh> how to restore my sound cards?  :(
[12:40] <richard> well i cant get my wireless adapter to connect to a network in feisty
[12:40] <macogw-is-a-girl> tmccrary: maybe there's a changelog somewhere...
[12:40] <teer2> peeps_work: Every page!  I've heard of some people having it crash once a day, but every day is unusual.  Maybe there is something else going on.
[12:41] <macogw-is-a-girl> richard: which wireless adapter is it?
[12:41] <teer2> pr4bh: I just had this problem today when I installed *ahem* another Ubuntu kernel patch.
[12:41] <macogw-is-a-girl> richard: not just "belkin" but which one
[12:41] <GoblinInventor> does anybody know how to enable direct rendering on a Radeon Xpress 200m?
[12:41] <teer2> pr4bh: I had to reinstall the kernel packages.
[12:41] <cypher1> macogw-is-a-girl, do you know how to make a usb headphone work with firefox ?
[12:41] <peeps_work> teer2, yeah, it's terrible.  i open google, search for "testing", and bam firefox quits
[12:42] <macogw-is-a-girl> cypher1: nope
[12:42] <zcat[1] > cypher1: I sould expect it to just appear as a new sound device, /dev/dsp1 or whatever..
[12:42] <macogw-is-a-girl> richard: if you don't know what it is, run "lspci" in the terminal and find it in the list that prints out
[12:42] <Condoulo> Would you suggest buying a Dell inspiron with Ubuntu pre-installed
[12:42] <cypher1> zcat[1] , it works well with vlc, totem etc.. its just the firefox..
[12:43] <teer2> peeps_work:  :-O   Using greasemonkey scripts or some extension that would trigger on every page?  That repeatable issue sounds like something you could diagnose with debug logs.
[12:43] <LucianIndy> Condoulo, I would because the price of the system would go down.
[12:43] <revilodraw> hello boys and girls, does anyone know how to fix an xorg.conf file so my ati radeon x1400 video driver will work and i can boot into feisty...i do have the livecd, but didnt use it to intall feisty.. i used the update manager and upgraded instread
[12:43] <zcat[1] > Condoulo: yes, but only to mke a point; I'd never actually run an OEM install.. nuke and pave it the way you want it installed :)
[12:43] <LucianIndy> Condoulo, when you buy a windows pre-installed computer you are purchasing a license which increases the actual price
[12:43] <richard> i believe its the fd9050
[12:43] <macogw-is-a-girl> Condoulo: yeah, or if you want to have a 1-800 to call without buying support from Canonical, system76 makes nice computers with ubuntu on them and supports both hardware and software (provided you're running a stable ubuntu release. if unstable they dont support software)
[12:43] <teer2> revilodraw: Did you just have these problems with the new update today?
[12:44] <rolfen> xfce rocks
[12:44] <richard> the one with the long usb cord and the usb adapter that plugs into the cradle thing
[12:44] <Condoulo> I'm thinking Dell cause I can get a discount from them
[12:44] <Radio> where can i find some good gnome themes?
[12:44] <macogw-is-a-girl> zcat[1] : the oem install on dells is a default ubuntu install.  no codecs added or anything, and even the restricted drivers aren't pre-installed.
[12:44] <macogw-is-a-girl> richard: telling me what it looks like doesnt help
[12:44] <teer2> Condoulo: Buying a computer from a vendor who supports Linux and preinstalls it is HIGHLY recommended.  Do you want some other vendors for comparison?
[12:44] <revilodraw> teer2; last night i upgraded from edgy to feisty, and this problem occurred after the system restarted
[12:44] <zcat[1] > macogw-is-a-girl: for now.. just wait until they start developing linux trialware and crap..
[12:45] <richard> its the F5D9050
[12:45] <hikenboot> I am currently using cat packages.txt | cut -f 1 --delimiter=, | xargs=1 apt-get remove -s -purge > out11.txt to search for which dependencies are being removed that I dont want to be removed...but I dont think it has the behaviour I want
[12:45] <rolfen> Radio http://art.gnome.org/
[12:45] <hikenboot> I want to do a dry run removing each package one for each run thru the loop
[12:45] <Condoulo> I usually do a lot of my own support. I would just like to buy a good machine for a good price
[12:45] <Justi1> What is the difference between FDE and GNOME?
[12:46] <richard> it shows the available networks but it wont let me connect to any of them
[12:46] <macogw-is-a-girl> !ralink
[12:46] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:46] <zcat[1] > anyhow the ubuntu oem install isn't all that great either. what if you want a bigger swap, or reiserfs, or /home on a different partition...
[12:46] <macogw-is-a-girl> !ralink | richard
[12:46] <ubotu> richard: please see above
[12:46] <teer2> revilodraw: sorry, I've stayed away from ATI cards.
[12:46] <Condoulo> http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b390/silvershadowrat/dellspecs.png (I can get a machine like that for a good price with the discount I have)
[12:46] <richard> whats !ralink?
[12:46] <macogw-is-a-girl> zcat[1] : thats what the automatic setting (which most new users use) on ubuntu's install does too
[12:46] <macogw-is-a-girl> richard: read what ubotu said about wireless documentation
[12:47] <macogw-is-a-girl> richard: you have a RaLink chipset
[12:47] <revilodraw> teer2; haha i dont blame you.. the problwem seems to be i have NOTHING in my xorg.conf file
[12:47] <richard> but why wont it connect
[12:47] <macogw-is-a-girl> richard: do you have mac filtering or any kind of encryption turned on?
[12:47] <richard> no
[12:47] <GoblinInventor> revilodraw, what does glxinfo | grep direct output?
[12:47] <zcat[1] > macogw-is-a-girl: for new users; yeah.. sensible defaults. For me, I like /home by itself at the very least.
[12:48] <richard> im using feisty off of the live cd
[12:48] <teer2> revilodraw: I guess you could find someone with the same card and copy the data into your xorg.conf
[12:48] <GoblinInventor> revilodraw, and fglrx for that matter
[12:48] <GoblinInventor> er
[12:48] <GoblinInventor> fglrxinfo
[12:48] <richard> im having to use windows xp for right now so i can connect to the internet
[12:48] <zcat[1] > brb; trying out new nvidia drivers
[12:48] <fisherhome> so i'd like to build a server for my new place and am considering using ubuntu but the lack of gui is a bit spooky.. can ubuntu server 7.04 i386 handle gnome?
[12:48] <mike1234> im fairly new to linux and am just curious about hyper threading.  I have a hyper threaded procesor at the moment and in the system resources it is showing up as two processors is this right
[12:48] <Condoulo> richard- so am I. My wireless, while works great in ndiswrapper on Edgy, wil crap out in Feisty. Hence why I got a dual-boot at the moment
[12:49] <kerneld> fisherhome: Don't get spooked out by lack of a gui
[12:49] <macogw-is-a-girl> richard: do you have any encryption turned on on your router
[12:49] <revilodraw> teer 2 and goblininventor; I wont be able to copy and paste it cos im using another pc.. i was thinking that teer2... goblininventor; one sec] 
[12:49] <yohan> I'm trying to compiler urxvt but i get this: checking for /usr/bin/perl suitability... configure: error: no, unable to link
[12:49] <yohan> I'm trying to compiler urxvt but i get this: checking for /usr/bin/perl suitability... configure: error: no, unable to link, what do I need?
[12:49] <richard> i dont know, im getting internet off of someone elses router
[12:49] <LucianIndy> i lucked out in the fact that my wireless card worked off the bat. i was sweating that one
[12:49] <fisherhome> i'm not, i love CLI i just don't know it solidly enough yet to manage a server
[12:49] <macogw-is-a-girl> richard: you dont need to put in any passwords on the router, though?
[12:49] <richard> no
[12:50] <richard> no passwords
[12:50] <fisherhome> i figured if gnome was there as a backup, i'd have no problems learning it
[12:50] <LucianIndy> unsecure wireless routers rock... i can go almost anywhere in my town and get internet
[12:50] <Condoulo> I've had trouble connecting to uin-secure routers in UBuntu in the past
[12:50] <richard> this one is at a college dorm
[12:50] <dibblego> is there a document for setting up a dual-head display with ATI/xinerama?
[12:51] <MRiGnS> LucianIndy, isn't that kind of illegal?
[12:51] <revilodraw> goblininventor; how do i use glxinfo | grep
[12:51] <LucianIndy> mrigns, hey if the people dont secure them its not my fault
[12:51] <kurumin> ??
[12:51] <Condoulo> I think it's only illegal if they crack the code.
[12:51] <GoblinInventor> revilodraw, just type in "glxinfo | grep direct"
[12:51] <LucianIndy> i usually just tunnel back to my computer anyhow
[12:51] <LucianIndy> my desktop, that is
[12:51] <fazed> that is not what a judge in florida thinks lucian
[12:52] <LucianIndy> fortunately im not in florida
[12:52] <skcubrats> fisherhome, for what it's worth, the tutorials and support documents for server tasks are all going to be command-line only anyways. The GUI wouldn't do you much good even if you had it. That said, Ubuntu desktop can to all the server tasks anyways. If this is for a home application, just do what you want on Desktop, then you have your GUI.
[12:52] <Nutubuntu> I have an on-topic question, please ... How can I get sound to work in audacity? It doesn't seem to want to play ... :(
[12:52] <kerneld> MRiGnS: Ermm  unethical maybe - but illegal? If they have an unsecured router - how is it illegal to connect to it? A default xp instal - find wireless connection - and you can connect to it and get no legal notice - how is it illegal?
[12:52] <GoblinInventor> Xfree86-DRI missing... anybody know how to fix?
[12:53] <revilodraw> goblininventor; ok thank you for your help too!! heres what it said " Error: Unable to open display (null)"
[12:53] <fazed> there was a judge in florida that ruled against a guy who was borrowing his neighbor's internet
[12:53] <MRiGnS> just because something isn't locked it's not legal
[12:53] <kerneld> MRiGnS: now if you try poking around on their lan - now that might be a different thing
[12:53] <fazed> i don't feel like researching it right now but the info is out there somewhere
[12:53] <GoblinInventor> revilodraw, alright. does "fglrxinfo" give you anything?
[12:53] <MRiGnS> kerneld, maybe, I'm no lawyer though
[12:54] <revilodraw> Goblininventor; "Error; Unable to open display :0"
[12:55] <LucianIndy> the judge probably got him on pirating internet service
[12:55] <macogw-is-a-girl> richard: what's listed if you type "ifconfig"
[12:55] <havanger> hello everyone
[12:55] <LucianIndy> your network information
[12:55] <havanger> i have a n00b question, is there a seperate channel for that?
[12:55] <fisherhome> nope ask away
[12:55] <macogw-is-a-girl> havanger: this is it
[12:56] <Nutubuntu> havanger,  this is actually the support chan, though it might not look that way right now
[12:56] <GoblinInventor> revilodraw, hmm... it's not what I thought was wrong... sorry, my experience is very limited, i just went through getting an ATI Xpress 200m to work, so I thought I might be of use... sorry, I don't know how to help with that issue
[12:57] <havanger> ok... i'm using ryhtom box music player to lisen to a internet radio station, but it states couldn't start data flow back and also gives a codec error
[12:57] <troxor> has anyone gotten freenx to work when connecting through a router (forwarded port, static local IP)
[12:57] <havanger> i believe the site usess mp3 coding, but don't know how to install codecs
[12:57] <nill> i get no sound to a dvd in movie player (that autostarts the movie), mplayer can't play the file ... what other player or codec may i might need?
[12:57] <revilodraw> goblininvntor; thanks anyway!! do u know of any way to use a generic driver to at least be abkle to get into a desktop and then i could find something to put in the xorg.conf file
[12:57] <vzduch> !codecs | havanger
[12:57] <ubotu> havanger: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:57] <originof[] > asdasd
[12:57] <mikecool123> im fairly new to linux and am just curious about hyper threading.  I have a hyper threaded procesor at the moment and in the system resources it is showing up as two processors is this right
[12:58] <Nutubuntu> havanger,  rhythmbox uses the gstreamer codecs; you'll want to install all of them, good, bad, and ugly, if I recall correctly
[12:58] <originof[] > O PEZZI DI MERDA !
[12:58] <troxor> mikecool123: yep
[12:58] <vzduch> !it | originof[] 
[12:58] <ubotu> originof[] : Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:58] <havanger> hmm, is there a better program i should be using?
[12:58] <originof[] > lol
[12:58] <Nutubuntu> !it and please keep it family friendly
[12:58] <Maruzzella> miaidde
[12:58] <kerneld> nill: Maybe mplayer is using oss sound? Or you have esd running?  Try: $ aoss mplayer
[12:58] <mikecool123> troxor, thanks
[12:58] <Masticore> I have just installed Ubuntu (Alternative), when it was done it restarted and Im at the logon screen, but I don't know the username/password. I didn't get the chanse to chose this under the innstallation...
[12:59] <originof[] > spaccone sei
[12:59] <sucapulli> eccomi
[12:59] <sucapulli> io ci sono :D
[12:59] <Maruzzella> inkia ri niagghie
[12:59] <originof[] > asd
[12:59] <GoblinInventor> revilodraw, I don't know, when I did mine it came up, but DRI was broken, you could try getting the driver from ATI, they have linux drivers that might help
[12:59] <originof[] > asdiamo ?
[12:59] <sucapulli> si picciotti
[12:59] <originof[] > asdiamo ?
[12:59] <originof[] > asdsadasdasadsdsa
[12:59] <sucapulli> tanto fra poco ci bannano :D
[12:59] <originof[] > asddsadsasdadsadsadsa
[12:59] <originof[] > sisi
[12:59] <originof[] > di certo
[12:59] <originof[] > XD
[12:59] <Nutubuntu> !ops
[12:59] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[12:59] <sucapulli> potremmo incollare qui la divina commedia :D
[12:59] <revilodraw> ok thanks goblininventor
[12:59] <originof[] > asdsad
[12:59] <sucapulli> ban assicurato :D
[12:59] <originof[] > ahhaha
[12:59] <originof[] > hahahahahhaah
[12:59] <originof[] > BANNATEMIII
[12:59] <originof[] > asd
[12:59] <hds> hidoes anybody have any idea concerning http://rafb.net/p/hWFVxX10.html ?
[12:59] <Maruzzella> leccatemi il pene
[12:59] <originof[] > asd
[12:59] <originof[] > lol
[12:59] <originof[] > lol
[12:59] <sucapulli> succccccaa
[12:59] <originof[] > sadsda
[12:59] <macogw-is-a-girl> Nutubuntu: i dont think thats a troll
[01:00] <originof[] > XD
[01:00] <Maruzzella> figghi i pulla
[01:00] <originof[] > asasd
[01:00] <macogw-is-a-girl> !ubuntu-es sucapulli
[01:00] <originof[] > DAI
[01:00] <originof[] > ma non bannano ?
[01:00] <Maruzzella> dai
[01:00] <Redimere> Hey, I'm having some issues installing ATI drivers in Xubuntu, anybody have any thoughts regarding it?
[01:00] <Maruzzella> seri
[01:00] <Maruzzella> io cmq mi chiamo figghi i pulla
[01:00] <Maruzzella> ora parlate tutti inglese
[01:00] <originof[] > he u !! U should suck my dick !!!!!!
[01:00] <Maruzzella> parlate tutti italiani
[01:00] <Flannel> !ops
[01:00] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[01:00] <Nutubuntu> macogw-is-a-girl,  sure reads like one to me - you see?
[01:00] <Maruzzella> *italiano
[01:00] <originof[] > asdsadsad
[01:00] <originof[] > XDXD
[01:00] <originof[] > XDXD
[01:00] <originof[] > XDXD
[01:00] <nill> kerneld: i cannot even get the movie to start in mplayer, but in totem-xine (with the libs and all)
[01:00] <macogw-is-a-girl> #ubuntu-it | Maruzzella
[01:00] <vzduch> originof[] : BASTA!
[01:00] <originof[] > che canale di merda
[01:00] <Maruzzella> altrimenti domani non vedrete + chi vi sta intorno
[01:00] <nixternal> sorry guys for making you stick through that
[01:00] <sucapulli> secondo gli ingleseper adesso stiamo parlando di ubuntu
[01:00] <sucapulli> looool
[01:00] <AMAURI> eccomi
[01:01] <Flannel> Masticore: When you install with the alternate CD, it asks you for a username/password during install
[01:01] <macogw-is-a-girl> Nutubuntu: i think theyre trying to ask for help in another language...
[01:01] <nill> kerneld: it just says something about encrypted etc, and cannot really start.
[01:01] <fisherhome> !english
[01:01] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[01:01] <AMAURI> AMAURI REGNA
[01:01] <AMAURI> PALERMO REGNA
[01:01] <nill> mplayer that is
[01:01] <phreck> wtf
[01:01] <sucapulli> ciao
[01:01] <khatahn> does any of the Instant Messaging programs that support msn also support custom graphical smiley animations (the ones that, as far as i've understood, can be sent to other people just by inserting them in the chat)? just trying to get someone to stop using vmware with windows just to see the stupid custom graphical smileys ;)
[01:01] <phreck> lol
[01:01] <macogw-is-a-girl> Nutubuntu: not that i can understand them, but it looks more like foreign-language than keyboard-smashing
[01:01] <fisherhome> muito obrigado
[01:01] <mikecool123> when you run uptime on the command line and you get the load averages back does 1 mean 100%
[01:01] <mahrellon> Is it worth the risk of updating the Nvidia drivers in Ubunty 7.04-i386? I'm a WoW freak and hoping to improve the performance of wine by updating.
[01:01] <kerneld> nill: I used to use ogle to watch dvds
[01:01] <Maruzzella> ma va sburrami a minkia
[01:02] <nill> kerneld: okay
[01:02] <nixternal> !english > Maruzzella
[01:02] <sucapulli> sucaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[01:02] <Redimere> mahrellon, no it isn't. Far more trouble than it's worth
[01:02] <teer2> mahrellon: I've been monitoring the room here for a while, and not too many people have had problems with the patches.
[01:02] <sucapulli> ieahflahflasdhbdsa
[01:02] <sucapulli> sdakjkbfsdahjbvgdfsa
[01:02] <sucapulli> sdakhvdksaaf
[01:02] <nixternal> next?
[01:02] <Maruzzella> oh
[01:02] <fisherhome> lol
[01:02] <Maruzzella> ma nessuno ci rispunne
[01:02] <macogw-is-a-girl> ok that one ws keyboard smashing
[01:02] <teratoma> what's the name of the Gutsy channel?
[01:02] <asdfasf1> does anyone have any guides for changing your video card in ubuntu? mine won't even boot when i put in my new card
[01:02] <dede_eccel> alguem do brasil?
[01:02] <mahrellon> Reimere: Cheers m8. That's what I was afraid of lol
[01:02] <Flannel> teratoma: #ubuntu+1
[01:02] <macogw-is-a-girl> but Maruzzella looks foreign
[01:02] <Flannel> !br | dede_eccel
[01:02] <ubotu> dede_eccel: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[01:02] <asdfasf1> it kicks me to console mode, i mean
[01:02] <nixternal> !english > macogw-is-a-girl
[01:02] <nixternal> err
[01:02] <fisherhome> lol
[01:02] <mahrellon> teer2: And thank you too. The patches for Wine of for the Nvidia drivers?
[01:02] <nixternal> !english > Maruzzella
[01:03] <mikecool123> when you run uptime on the command line and you get the load averages back does 1 mean 100%
[01:03] <Nutubuntu> macogw-is-a-girl,  foreign does not necessarily mean friendly - those were not "help" words, some of them
[01:03] <macogw-is-a-girl> nixternal: i know that...i was saying to !ubuntu-es them or whatever them
[01:03] <macogw-is-a-girl> Nutubuntu: well i couldnt READ it!
[01:03] <Nutubuntu> matters not, but thanks to the ops -- t/y nixternal
[01:03] <nixternal> hehe, macogw-is-a-girl I accidentally tab completed you in there...sorry
[01:03] <teer2> mahrellon: I don't know about that - I have an NVIDIA card, but I have given up on Windows applications.
[01:03] <macogw-is-a-girl> nixternal: ah ok
[01:03] <Redimere> Hey, do any of you know anything about ATI driver upgrades in Feisty?
[01:04] <spread> What's a good reasonably cheap gigabit ethernet card for 6.10?
[01:04] <Redimere> any of the above really
[01:04] <Polygon89> Redimere, what do you mean?
[01:04] <Nutubuntu> no offense intended, macogw-is-a-girl
[01:04] <mahrellon> teer2: Oh well. Guess I'll have to be happy with the way wow works for me now then. I mean it IS playable altough the fps won't go over 30fps and I have a 7950GT =)
[01:04] <kerneld> mikecool123: load average is kind of a funny number. Basically it is the number of precess that are ready to run. so a load overage of 1 could indicate the system has a full load but it handles more than 1 with easy
[01:04] <cycom> Ok, so I got the darn mouse working with evdev, but now all of the sudden my laptop keyboard does strange things.  If I press the up arrow key, I get screenshots.  Buttons like pgup and pgdown are doing other things.  How can I run evdev for my mighty mouse and have my keyboard, you know, work?
[01:04] <macogw-is-a-girl> Nutubuntu: now if they were speaking japanese....
[01:04] <Redimere> I mean, I can't get fglrx to get rid of this message: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[01:04] <Polygon89> Redimere, i have a ati card, and use the fglrx drivers, and every time the kernel updates a updated version of fglrx comes through the reps...
[01:04] <nixternal> Maruzzella: if you continue on, you will be removed from this channel. Thanks!
[01:05] <macogw-is-a-girl> Redimere: does your xorg.conf list dri in the module section?
[01:05] <Redimere> Yus
[01:05] <Maruzzella> ma ba iecca sangue teisti i minkia
[01:05] <nixternal> bye
[01:05] <Redimere> nixternal: thanks!
[01:05] <cycom> my touchpad is all over the place as well
[01:05] <teer2> asdfasf1: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/autodetect-videocard
[01:05] <teer2> asdfasf1: use google - there's lots more out there
[01:05] <nill> kerneld: hm, ogle was not able to play the dvd neither
[01:06] <macogw-is-a-girl> nixternal: the *!* part of that plus the word kick makes me imagine you going all Power Rangers on 'em
[01:06] <nill> kerneld: do i need a restart of x perhaps
[01:06] <mikecool123> kerneld, so is there a comand that you can issue to say the cpu is wroking at say 10% or 100%
[01:06] <frank_> hey :)
[01:06] <mikecool123> kerneld, thanks for your answer though by the way
[01:06] <kerneld> mikecool123: at my uni - the solaris system had load averages of 60 to 70. it was an 8 proc system - so a load average of 8 would be ideal
[01:06] <Redimere> I've been trying to find the Restricted Drivers UI thing, but I can't find the link to it.
[01:06] <teer2> Polygon89: dump proprietary hardware.
[01:06] <revilodraw> macogw-is-a-girl: u r talking abour xorg..i need help with xorg
[01:06] <kerneld> mikecool123: top is better for that
[01:06] <frank_> i need help getting my bluetooth to work :)
[01:06] <miniju> hi
[01:06] <macogw-is-a-girl> revilodraw: whats wrong with xorg?
[01:06] <Polygon89> teer2, if intel makes a video card that can actually compete with ATI/Nvidia hardware, as i play videogames, then maybe
[01:06] <kerneld> nill: Hmm not sure.  was it a sound problem? Maybe something is locking the sound device
[01:07] <skcubrats> /jump #apache
[01:07] <frank_> the main problem is the missing bluetooth icon in my upper gnome bar. How can i add it? :)
[01:07] <macogw-is-a-girl> revilodraw: are you the one that said "xorg.conf isnt there"?
[01:07] <macogw-is-a-girl> revilodraw: if so, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" should generate it
[01:07] <f4rbr0r^KaLL3> is there a way to make mouse faster (without that stupid acceleration thing)?
[01:07] <nill> kerneld: well with mplayer i can't see it at all, in xine-totem, i can't get any sound at all
[01:07] <miniju> i'm having issues with my wifi card, a RTL8180L... from time to time it just "hangs" and drop packets for 4-5 seconds then starts working again
[01:07] <nill> esd is not running
[01:07] <revilodraw> macogw-is-a-girl: yes, xorg is empty.. ok ill try that
[01:07] <miniju> lspci: 02:02.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8180L 802.11b MAC (rev 20)
[01:07] <teer2> Polygon89: The GM964 is pretty good.  You might need to sacrifice something in the name of your own freedom, but you'll be better off in the longrun.
[01:07] <miniju> this is a Thinkpad T40
[01:08] <miniju> tia
[01:08] <Polygon89> teer2, is that a pci/AGP card?
[01:08] <kerneld> mikecool123: also if you have the perfomance monitor applet on you panel in gnome you can double click it and it brings up a task list, and a cpu monitor graph so you can see what is using cpu.  top is more light weight though
[01:09] <Nutubuntu> I have an audacity question: How can I get sound to work in audacity? It doesn't seem to want to play mp3 files. Is there a well-known issue and/or fix?
[01:09] <kerneld> nill: with totem, try:  aoss totem
[01:09] <mikecool123> kerneld, thanks, thats kinda what sparked me to come on as on the cpu histroy my proccesor usage was like at 20%
[01:09] <revilodraw> macogw-is-a-girl; which driver do i choose? vesa? i have done this before but it didnt help..pls dont give up on me yet though
[01:09] <mikecool123> and i was just pretty much doing nothing
[01:09] <macogw-is-a-girl> miniju: do you know which card it is?
[01:09] <macogw-is-a-girl> revilodraw: depends. what video card do you have?
[01:09] <Polygon89> Nutubuntu, you might have to install lame..
[01:10] <mikecool123> but i guess that is showing something else
[01:10] <donnaclarke> help.  i am running a live cd of feisty in my desktop.  it doesn't want to connect when i start firefox.  have a usb connection running from a motorola surfboard which i have connected to this laptop sisde by side right now.  is there a problem using the usb?  should i hook the desktop to an ethernet cord?  should that make a difference?
[01:10] <Nutubuntu> Polygon89, I have installed it and told audacity where to find the library but still no luck
[01:10] <kerneld> nill: if that works for you, you need to make sure totem is set to use alsa instead of oss.
[01:10] <macogw-is-a-girl> revilodraw: the driver you need is tl818x
[01:11] <miniju> macogw-is-a-girl: i don't actually know what the card is, it's internal
[01:11] <miniju> and thinkwiki.org doesn't seem to mention it
[01:11] <miniju> it's weird
[01:11] <nill> kerneld: ah ye, i want alsa for it ... but i couldn't find it in preferences
[01:11] <macogw-is-a-girl> revilodraw: but if you dont know which card it is, i cant tell you how well it's supported.  look at http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_chipset.php?chipset=Realtek and see if you recognize it
[01:11] <mikecool123> kerneld, thanks for your help
[01:11] <macogw-is-a-girl> miniju: do "lspci" and see what it says
[01:11] <miniju> macogw-is-a-girl: i pasted lspci above
[01:11] <mikecool123> kerneld, kinda made me understand it a bit better
[01:11] <Polygon89> Nutubuntu, hmm whats the error its giving you? cant find the lame library?
 lspci: 02:02.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8180L 802.11b MAC (rev 20)
[01:11] <h1st0> t
[01:11] <h1st0> exit
[01:12] <macogw-is-a-girl> miniju: ah crap i got confused for a second
[01:12] <f4rbr0r^KaLL3> is there a way to add mouse sensitivity (without that stupid acceleration thing)?
[01:12] <kerneld> nill: try gstreamer-properties
[01:12] <miniju> macogw-is-a-girl: about what?
[01:12] <macogw-is-a-girl> revilodraw, miniju, sorry i mixed those messages up
[01:12] <nill> kerneld: okay
[01:12] <adamonline45> If I want to download an .iso, does bittorrent have error checking? Like, will I be more likely to get a clean download than using http?
[01:12] <teer2> Polygon89: I think that is a no, as of today.
[01:12] <macogw-is-a-girl> miniju: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_chipset.php?chipset=Realtek recognize it on there maybe?
[01:12] <macogw-is-a-girl> revilodraw: ignore that message about wifi
[01:12] <Nutubuntu> Polygon89,  when I load an mp3 and click the play button audacity errors: "Error opening sound device. Please check the output settings and the project sample rate."
[01:12] <Bassetts> is there a terminal tool that will tell me the cpu temp and fan speeds?
[01:13] <teer2> Polygon89: http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets/gma3000/gma3000.pdf
[01:14] <Polygon89> Nutubuntu, maybe try running "aoss audacity" that works for me when audacity complains about random stuff
[01:14] <donnaclarke> help. i am running a live cd of feisty in my desktop. it doesn't want to connect when i start firefox. have a usb connection running from a motorola surfboard which i have connected to this laptop sisde by side right now. is there a problem using the usb? should i hook the desktop to an ethernet cord? should that make a difference?  is there some configuration process that i have to do?  my...
[01:14] <miniju> macogw-is-a-girl: hmm... i guess i could open up the laptop, but otherwise i really can't tell... all i have right now is lspci...
[01:14] <macogw-is-a-girl> miniju: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/RTL8180L try this
[01:14] <donnaclarke> ...friends ubuntu worked live right 'out of the box' and connects right up to internet...
[01:14] <Redimere> Is there a command that can tell you what version of ubuntu or xubuntu you are running? I upgraded from 6.06 to fiesty, and I think I'm getting bits of both
[01:14] <miniju> macogw-is-a-girl: looking
[01:14] <BrendanM> Is there a way to install the Ubuntu LAMP package from within an existing desktop Ubuntu installation?
[01:14] <macogw-is-a-girl> donnaclarke: probably had an intel wireless card on your friend's laptop
[01:14] <BrendanM> or can it only be done from the server install CD?
[01:14] <revilodraw> macogw-is-a-girl: lspci for me?
[01:14] <Polygon89> teer2, hmm.... integrated chipsets are not good for gaming lolol
[01:14] <Nutubuntu> Polygon89,  will try it, thanks :)
[01:14] <OneSeventeen> gdesklets won't start, any tips on how to troubleshoot?
[01:15] <miniju> macogw-is-a-girl: that's to install a proprietary driver ... no?
[01:15] <macogw-is-a-girl> donnaclarke: most cards dont have open source drivers, so you need ndiswrapper for those.  a large chunk have drivers, but the companies dont allow ubuntu to ship the firmware.
[01:15] <Polygon89> OneSeventeen, run it from terminal and see if you get any errors
[01:15] <macogw-is-a-girl> revilodraw: yes, lspci
[01:15] <donnaclarke> macogw-is-a-girl:  no, wired connection...
[01:15] <LDZ420> BrendanM: use apt-get php,apache,mysql
[01:15] <Bassetts> is there a terminal tool that will tell me the cpu temp and fan speeds?
[01:15] <macogw-is-a-girl> miniju: thats to use the windows driver with ndiswrapper
[01:15] <miniju> macogw-is-a-girl: and those guys seem to be saying the card works fine...
[01:15] <miniju> macogw-is-a-girl: yeah, that's what i meant :)
[01:16] <LDZ420> BrendanM: should also be able to use synaptic
[01:16] <macogw-is-a-girl> donnaclarke: oh sorry it scrolled too fast :p try an ethernet connection
[01:16] <Typwn> Hello
[01:16] <miniju> the problem is really strange, it might not be related to wifi.. i guess i'll try the regular network card before investigating further
[01:16] <apocalypticunion> is there a way i can have multiple wallpapers on my different workspaces?
[01:16] <kerneld> Bassetts: lm-sensors
[01:16] <nill> kerneld: hm, that `aoss totem` sort of wrecked totem
[01:16] <OneSeventeen> Polygon89: good idea, it just gives me a python warning, no full on errors.
[01:16] <Typwn> I accidently installed the 64-bit version and I'm stuck with it. How do I burn a CD in Ubuntu?
[01:16] <nill> kerneld: now it can't be started, hehe
[01:16] <BrendanM> LDZ420, thanks. My understanding was that the Ubuntu LAMP install also did some configuration work for you. I guess I'll just do that myself, then?
[01:16] <nill> kerneld: my gstreamer is set to alsa
[01:16] <macogw-is-a-girl> miniju: well it worked on 6.10, but there have been some issues on 7.04, so if its not working, try ndiswrapper.  there's also the fact that (good) encryption with the open driver doesnt work
[01:17] <gdb> Typwn: right click the icon of the iso and select Burn to Disc
[01:17] <Haru> can someone help me with this configuration.. there are a number of pcs on a LAN.. where one of the systems has access to internet.. how do i setup a network between the Internet-enabled-system to another system on LAN such that other systems can share the Internet connection
[01:17] <donnaclarke> macogw-is-a-girl: will it matter if i keep the laptop hooked up to the usb simultaneously?
[01:17] <Typwn> gdb: .....it's that simple?
[01:17] <macogw-is-a-girl> donnaclarke: *shrug*
[01:17] <OneSeventeen> where do applications reside in ubuntu?
[01:17] <miniju> macogw-is-a-girl: right... ok... the issues would be kernel related or userspace related?
[01:17] <kerneld> nill: It shouldn't have. heh.  Make sure you have no running totem or mplayer process
[01:17] <gdb> Typwn: yes
[01:17] <Nutubuntu> Polygon89,  your suggestion works! I love this channel ... :)
[01:17] <Polygon89> OneSeventeen, might as well post it here, maybe it says something
[01:17] <macogw-is-a-girl> miniju: drivers are kernel space
[01:17] <gdb> Typwn: :-)
[01:17] <miniju> macogw-is-a-girl: i know
[01:17] <Typwn> gdb: I feel so stupid for bothering ya'll with this. Thanks lol
[01:17] <Polygon89> Nutubuntu, your welcome :D
[01:17] <gdb> Typwn: no worries :-)
[01:18] <OneSeventeen> ./Shell/__init__.py:153: GtkDeprecationWarning: gtk.threads_init is deprecated, use gtk.gdk.threads_init instead [newline]   gtk.threads_init()
[01:18] <Kavon89> how do i open the "task manager" of ubuntu to kill a process... i have an extra app i can't find which iis runnign
[01:18] <miniju> macogw-is-a-girl: my point is: if it's the kernel of 7.04, i can try upgrading the kernel or compiling a new one
[01:18] <revilodraw> macogw-is-a-girl: i can now no longer access a command line
[01:18] <miniju> i'd rather not use proprietary software
[01:18] <macogw-is-a-girl> revilodraw: why?
[01:18] <Nutubuntu> Polygon89,  do you happen to know how I would enable the "change pitch" and "change speed" effects? All the effects are shown as greyed-out ...
[01:18] <nill> kerneld: hm, no ... can't even start it through gui even...
[01:18] <erUSUL> Kavon89: Systema>Admin>System Monitor
[01:18] <LDZ420> BrendanM: I believe that ubuntu has some documentation on it
[01:18] <macogw-is-a-girl> miniju: do an lsmod and see if r818x is listd
[01:18] <miniju> here's an example of the problem:
[01:18] <miniju> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.254: icmp_seq=55 ttl=64 time=1.45 ms
[01:18] <miniju> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.254: icmp_seq=61 ttl=64 time=1.86 ms
[01:18] <miniju> macogw-is-a-girl: it is
[01:18] <erUSUL> !paste > miniju
[01:19] <havanger_> when i use command: gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad:::: it gives message: gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad
[01:19] <havanger_> whoops
[01:19] <miniju> erUSUL: sorry
[01:19] <havanger_> message is bash: gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg: command not found
[01:19] <revilodraw> macogw-is-a-girl: after the blue screenm telling me xorg was screwed, it used give me a command line..now nothing
[01:19] <havanger_> when i use command "gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad" it gives me an error message "bash: gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg: command not found"
[01:19] <Kavon89> ty
[01:19] <Fezzler> I'm back.  I don't think folks here have knowledge to help me but I think they can answer a few Q that will help me research and solve issue.
[01:19] <macogw-is-a-girl> miniju: uh dude, if your pings work, you're connected
[01:19] <kerneld> nill: in gstreamer-properties did you select the specifc sound output? Maybe it is picking a tv tuner or something you don't expect
[01:19] <Haru> can someone help me with this configuration.. there are a number of pcs on a LAN.. where one of the systems has access to internet.. how do i setup a network between the Internet-enabled-system to another system on LAN such that other systems can share the Internet connection
[01:19] <NinaRoja> can someone tell me why i am unable to login to my homedir?
[01:19] <miniju> macogw-is-a-girl: i *know* ping works
[01:19] <NinaRoja> i get logged in with home=/
[01:19] <Ominous> how do you make every file in a dir executable
[01:19] <nill> kerneld: hm, i think perhaps a good old apt-get remove & install might help here
[01:19] <Fezzler> My Ubuntu Fiesty keeps freezing up after login.
[01:19] <miniju> macogw-is-a-girl: i said that i have packet loss,
[01:19] <miniju> .
[01:19] <nill> kerneld: yes, and that is alsa
[01:19] <macogw-is-a-girl> revilodraw: ctrl alt f1-6 all are virtual terminals
[01:20] <Polygon89> Nutubuntu, sorry i dont know much about audacity..
[01:20] <erUSUL> Haru: firestarter can do that graphically
[01:20] <erUSUL> !firestarter
[01:20] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[01:20] <macogw-is-a-girl> miniju: what you pasted didnt look like packet loss
[01:20] <kerneld> nill: Prob not...  lsof will hel identify if another proc has a hold out the sound dev
[01:20] <Haru> Ominous: chmod +rwx *.*
[01:20] <Fezzler> I also notice that the time lapse between login and Nautilus and X loading has grown longer.
[01:20] <miniju> macogw-is-a-girl: is this better? 62 packets transmitted, 57 received, 8% packet loss, time 61019ms
[01:20] <nill> kerneld: hm, ah i see what you're saying
[01:20] <havanger_> when i use command "gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad " it gives me a message "bash: gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg: command not found"
[01:20] <miniju> (with apologies to erUSUL :P)
[01:20] <macogw-is-a-girl> miniju: i see
[01:20] <revilodraw> macogw-is-a-girl; ok i have got one lol.. lspci..." says a lot of stuff..what do u want me to tell u about it?"
[01:20] <kerneld> nill: sudo lsof | grep /dev/snd
[01:20] <Nutubuntu> Polygon89,  thanks anyhow. You've gotten me past the first hurdle :)
[01:20] <macogw-is-a-girl> miniju: its multi-line pasting that is disliked
[01:20] <Nutubuntu> Be well, all :)
[01:20] <miniju> macogw-is-a-girl: i pasted the two packets in between which there was packet loss
[01:21] <macogw-is-a-girl> revilodraw: which graphics card does it list
[01:21] <miniju> macogw-is-a-girl: i know :) i'm not used to really busy channels like this one, i thought one line was ok
[01:21] <Fezzler> The freezing seems to occur after I use "Places." Q1.  Is "Place" essential what is called "X"?  Is it "X" that is freezing/crashing?
[01:21] <natbet> how do I uninstall something that I did ./configure, make, make install to install, then deleted the directory where I installed it from
[01:21] <macogw-is-a-girl> miniju: :-/ idk then.
[01:21] <Radio> how can i make my windows transparent?
[01:21] <Haru> natbet: make uninstall
[01:21] <deadchip> paint them with transparency
[01:21] <deadchip> hmm
[01:21] <macogw-is-a-girl> Fezzler: places is part of the menu in the gnome panel.  you could try using not-gnome
[01:22] <Fezzler> After freezing, I will still have mouse functionality and even Gaim will continue to run.
[01:22] <deadchip> a screen painter plugin would be nice
[01:22] <miniju> macogw-is-a-girl: ok, well, thanks for the support anyways, at least i know i'm not insane or missing something really simple :)
[01:22] <vzduch> natbet: change to the directory where the source code is located, then 'sudo make uninstall'
[01:22] <kerneld> Radio: close them ;)
 Is Realtek HDA supported by Ubuntu 7? <>
[01:22] <natbet> Haru: that doesn't work, I already deleted the directory that i installed it from
[01:22] <Radio> thanks kerneld
[01:22] <kerneld> Radio:  sorry :P
[01:22] <Radio> lol
[01:22] <Radio> omg
[01:22] <Fezzler> mac: not use GNOME?
[01:22] <macogw-is-a-girl> rafaelscj: i dont know but it's 7.04
[01:22] <LDZ420> BrendanM:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP?action=show&redirect=LAMP
[01:22] <Typwn> When installing GRUB on initial install of Ubuntu, how do I make sure it'll boot properly? (Do I set to hd0 or hd1 or what?)
[01:22] <Ominous> how do you add things to the system PATH
[01:22] <revilodraw> "VGA compatible controller: ATI TECHNOLOOGIES Inc Radeon Mobility x1400
[01:22] <natbet> vzduch: I would do that but I've already removed the source directory
[01:22] <macogw-is-a-girl> Fezzler: oh wait real quick "free -m"
[01:23] <Haru> Ominous: set path=%path%;addition
[01:23] <macogw-is-a-girl> Fezzler: see if a lot of resources are in use.  gnome is a bit heavy, so if youre pushing it on memory usage, xfce may be better
[01:23] <kerneld> Ominous: /etc/profile   but be very careful you could lockyourself out of the system without some l33t skils
[01:23] <Fezzler> I've been playing with sound and video (recordmydesktop) I wonder if that app has done something my nvidia card doesn't like?
[01:23] <Fezzler> mac:  free -m?
[01:23] <Fezzler> mac: run it at command line?
[01:24] <macogw-is-a-girl> Fezzler: yes
[01:24] <Ominous> Haru, so like set Global_Path=/home/.../
[01:24] <Fezzler> I tested my memory at boot and all is okay
[01:24] <Typwn> When installing GRUB on initial install of Ubuntu, how do I make sure it'll boot properly? (Do I set to hd0 or hd1 or what?)
[01:24] <ashley_> anyone know anything about syncing music with a motorola razr ?
[01:24] <Fezzler> okay
[01:24] <rafaelscj> %%+macogw-is-a-girl+%%: <> Ubuntu 6.06 don't support <>
[01:24] <macogw-is-a-girl> Fezzler: recmydesk is rather mem-hogging, if i recall correctly
[01:25] <Fezzler> mac: GNOME is not working at all now.  "Application" caused freeze again!
[01:25] <revilodraw> ashley: in pretty sure i have seen motorola tools around somewhere.. id look in automatix but cant access my pc right now ( hence why im here)..
[01:25] <macogw-is-a-girl> Fezzler: go to the first VT and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[01:25] <revilodraw> macogw-is-a-girl:"VGA compatible controller: ATI TECHNOLOOGIES Inc Radeon Mobility x1400"
[01:25] <Fezzler> Mac: think I should start by uninstalling recordmydesktop
[01:25] <kerneld> Ominous: add to the PATH="/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games"   line in /etc/profile
[01:26] <kerneld> just be VERY careful
[01:26] <kerneld> add to the end no funy spaces.
[01:26] <switchcat> Q: How do I get synaptic package manager to recognize/manage the install/recognize/remember the install of a downloaded package? I've tried futzing around with the menus, etc.  but I can't seem to get it to work.. 'properly'... I'm specifically looking to install yahoo messenger for unix from http://messenger.yahoo.com/unix.php
[01:26] <kerneld> sould be "PATHA:PATHB:PATHC:...:PATHN"
[01:27] <Typwn> When installing GRUB on initial install of Ubuntu, how do I make sure it'll boot properly? (Do I set to hd0 or hd1 or what?) I'm asking because when I load it up it doesn't boot. I have to edit the command line from hd1,0 to hd0,0 for it to boot. What caused this and how do I fix it?
[01:27] <Fezzler> mac: ran free -m from virtual command.  Lots o free memory
[01:27] <kerneld> Ominous: It won't really take effect comply until you logout and login again  no need to reboot
[01:27] <revilodraw> typwn: i dont know myselfd, but keep trying..someone will be ble to hrelp u
[01:27] <dko> ddd
[01:28] <Typwn> revilodraw: Thanks for a responce at least ^^
[01:28] <phpwner> what do i need from package manager to use my computer as a router? i have pppoe dsl and need the ability to port forward
[01:28] <macogw-is-a-girl> revilodraw: should be fglrx then
[01:28] <Lunar_Lamp> !bugzilla
[01:28] <erUSUL> !firewall | phpwner
[01:28] <dko> fast foard
[01:28] <macogw-is-a-girl> Typwn: "sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[01:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bugzilla - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:28] <ubotu> phpwner: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[01:29] <revilodraw> macogw-is-a-girl:: ok i thinki know what u mean.. how do i get to it again (sorry)
[01:29] <macogw-is-a-girl> revilodraw: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[01:29] <phpwner> alright erUSUL how about pppoe
[01:29] <rolfen> hey guys my pc is slow to boot just after grub i get a message that goes like "ata3 timed out 30 seconds" (i really forgot the exact message)
[01:29] <macogw-is-a-girl> Typwn: on the "# groot=" line change that to hd0 instead of hd1, save it, then "sudo update-grub"
[01:30] <Haru> macogw-is-a-girl: could you please help me with this configuration.. there are a number of pcs on a LAN.. where one of the systems has access to internet.. how do i setup a network between the Internet-enabled-system to another system on LAN such that other systems can share the Internet connection
[01:30] <macogw-is-a-girl> Haru: i wish i knew so i could get wireless in my house from the ethernet-and-wif-having desktop, but i don't
 How can I know if Realket High Definition Audio is supported? <>
[01:30] <macogw-is-a-girl> rafaelscj: google could probably tell you
[01:30] <crimsun> rafaelscj: depends on the specific HDA codec model.
[01:31] <Typwn> macogw-is-a-girl: Thanks! I'm reinstalling Ubuntu again so how do I keep from doing that this next time?
[01:31] <macogw-is-a-girl> rafaelscj: or try the live cd
[01:31] <macogw-is-a-girl> Typwn: the "confirm" step of installation has a button in the lower right to pick where it goes
[01:31] <Typwn> macogw-is-a-girl: Where should I put it?
[01:31] <macogw-is-a-girl> Typwn: first hard drive as recognized by mobo is hd0, 2nd is hd1, etc
[01:32] <macogw-is-a-girl> Typwn: if there's only one hard drive, hd0
[01:32] <[wewtniss] ben> hello
[01:32] <Typwn> macogw-is-a-girl: There's two. Does the boot order of the drives matter?
[01:32] <phpwner> oh sweet pppoe is builtin
 I started my PC with Ubuntu 6.06 live cd... No sound... <>
[01:32] <macogw-is-a-girl> Typwn: i think it's by which is master and which is slave
[01:32] <phpwner> how2configure pppoe
[01:32] <Typwn> macogw-is-a-girl: Okay, thanks.
[01:32] <miniju_> so how do i easily test out recent kernels with ubuntu? i know about kernel-archive.buildserver.net, but is there something similar for ubuntu?
[01:32] <[wewtniss] ben> how do i join another server?
[01:33] <revilodraw> macogw-is-a-girl: one i have chose fglrx then what? reboot?
[01:33] <Spec> macogw-is-a-girl: you're a guy!
[01:33] <macogw-is-a-girl> macogw-is-a-girl: yeah
[01:33] <macogw-is-a-girl> Spec: liar!
[01:33] <Spec> moo ^.~
[01:33] <Spec> oh man lack o' sleep.
[01:33] <rolfen> !funny
[01:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about funny - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:33] <donnaclarke> macogw-is-a-girl: i got an  ethernet cord hooked to the desktop, and still 'firefox can't find the server at mail.yahoo.com'
[01:33] <Haru> whos macogw anyways :S
[01:33] <Spec> Haru: a girl.
[01:34] <macogw-is-a-girl> Spec: http://gwu.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31781348&id=5319221 <-- this look like a guy to you?
[01:34] <Haru> sigh
[01:34] <Hazler> Hey
[01:34] <miniju_> macogw-is-a-girl: just so you know, no packet loss on wired connection, so it's definitely kernel/wirelessdriver related :)
[01:34] <Spec> macogw-is-a-girl: http://dragoncow2.com/mpaa_spec.png <-- this look like a guy to you?
[01:34] <poningru> ok guys please keep this ontopic
[01:34] <Hazler> Does anyone play CSS, cuz i was wonder if you could have Fullscreen without the little panel on the bottom
[01:34] <Spec> so, who needs help? ^.^
[01:34] <macogw-is-a-girl> Spec: nope, bearded lady
[01:34] <revilodraw> spec: me
[01:35] <macogw-is-a-girl> Hazler: play CSS?  does CSS stand for something other than Cascading Style Sheets, because i don't think those are playable...
[01:35] <Spec> revilodraw: what's up?
[01:35] <jcapote> if my partition table is gone but i still have all my data, is there any way to recover that without any partitions?
[01:35] <peeps_work> macogw-is-a-girl,  counterstrike: source
[01:35] <macogw-is-a-girl> Spec: radeon X1400
[01:36] <macogw-is-a-girl> Spec: thats an fglrx card, right?
[01:36] <Spec> macogw-is-a-girl: i don't know fglrx
[01:36] <donnaclarke> anyone able to help me configure my desktop ubuntu internet connection?  i so sad.
[01:36] <macogw-is-a-girl> donnaclarke: try it without the usb?
[01:36] <revilodraw> spec: installled feisty thrpought he update manager, and am trying to run it for the first time (using my dell inspiron 6400 with a ati radeon mobility x1400 video card)..i get the blue screen saying "failed to start the x server"
[01:36] <macogw-is-a-girl> donnaclarke: theres no proxy involved, right?
[01:36] <Spec> revilodraw: oi
[01:36] <phpwner> how2qos
[01:37] <Spec> revilodraw: what module are you currently using?
[01:37] <phpwner> !qos
[01:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:37] <phpwner> !qualityofservice
[01:37] <phpwner> !quality of service
[01:37] <donnaclarke> macogw-is-a-girl:  i tried to hook ethernet to desktop.  usb from same modem connecting this laptop i'm on
[01:37] <rolfen> hey how do you add an entry to the right-click context menu for a file type?
[01:37] <revilodraw> right now im in the recovery mode
[01:37] <Spec> macogw-is-a-girl: change your nick, it's too long ^.^
[01:37] <Spec> revilodraw: so recovery mode's X comes up fine?
[01:38] <macogw-is-a-girl> donnaclarke: well the one you're trying to use ubuntu on...can it work with ethernet and no usb?
[01:38] <TeeWee> /exit
[01:38] <revilodraw> spec: no, same problem in recovery mode
[01:38] <Spec> revilodraw: and it's only in feisty?
[01:38] <macogw-is-a-girl> phpwner: what are you doing?
[01:38] <donnaclarke> hmmmm, i mean i don't know why not, it has an ethernet port?
[01:38] <prophet> is there someone that can assist with a Broadcom 4309 on Ubuntu 7.04?
[01:38] <Spec> yes!
[01:38] <Spec> prophet: i can probably
[01:39] <Hazler> can you play CSS without the panel at the bottom and on fullscreen?
[01:39] <Redimere> Just window it
[01:39] <macogw-is-a-girl> prophet: "sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter"
[01:39] <macogw-is-a-girl> Spec: beat
[01:39] <Spec> macogw-is-a-girl: indeed
[01:39] <Hazler> But i want fullscreen
[01:39] <Hazler> haha
[01:39] <revilodraw> spec: yes, it ran fine in edgy (although getting proper video acceleration required installing some driver from somewherer)
[01:40] <Spec> revilodraw: can you give me your vid card name again?
[01:40] <macogw-is-a-girl> donnaclarke: your router lacks an ethernet jack?
[01:40] <macogw-is-a-girl> Spec: radeon mobility x1400
[01:40] <revilodraw> spec: yep
[01:40] <macogw-is-a-girl> Hazler: you could make your panel auto-hide
[01:40] <macogw-is-a-girl> Hazler: then it only shows if you mouse-over it
[01:40] <donnaclarke> macogw-is-a-girl: just running directly from the modem; not routed
[01:41] <revilodraw> spec and macogw-is-a-girl; thank you for your ongoing assistnce!!
[01:41] <Hazler> how do i make it auto hide?
[01:41] <macogw-is-a-girl> donnaclarke: ok so does your modem have an ethernet jack?
[01:41] <Hazler> System Preferences?
[01:41] <macogw-is-a-girl> donnaclarke: wait a second
[01:41] <macogw-is-a-girl> donnaclarke: youre trying to use one modem for 2 computers?
[01:41] <macogw-is-a-girl> donnaclarke: im pretty sure you cant do that
[01:41] <chapium> help!  grub is gradually getting slower.  It waits a full minute before the boot selection appears
[01:41] <Spec> ok....
[01:41] <donnaclarke> macogw-is-a-girl: i just want to establish a wired connection
[01:42] <revilodraw> macogw- im using one modem for three computers nowq
[01:42] <donnaclarke> macogw-is-a-girl:  yes, one modem
[01:42] <Kavon89> Hi, I am trying to install Enemy Territory. I did ' sudo sh et-linux-2.55.x86.run ' and it started loading stuff, then it stopped and gave me this error: " /home/kavon/.setup11571: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:42] <macogw-is-a-girl> revilodraw: with no router?
[01:42] <Kavon89> The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.1
[01:42] <Kavon89> " Any ideas?
[01:42] <Spec> revilodraw: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[01:42] <Spec> revilodraw: have you read that?
[01:42] <revilodraw> lol soz its a wireless ruter
[01:42] <bobgill> I have popped in a DVD and  it's not playing in any application (VLC, xine, etc.) it just closes or tells me I don't have rights to play it but it's a regular DVD I bought, can someone help ??
[01:42] <Spec> Kavon89: perhaps
[01:42] <poningru> chapium: sounds like a bios trouble trying to figure out which hard drive to choose
[01:42] <revilodraw> spec: not yet
[01:42] <Spec> !find libgtk-1.2
[01:42] <donnaclarke> macogw-is-a-girl: why not, the modem has an out for both usb and ether
[01:42] <ubotu> Package/file libgtk-1.2 does not exist in feisty
[01:43] <revilodraw> spec: im trying to install feisty though
[01:43] <Spec> !info libgtk
[01:43] <ubotu> Package libgtk does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[01:43] <crimsun> libgtk1.2-0 ?
[01:43] <Kavon89> Spec: maybe use sympatic to find that thing?
[01:43] <chapium> poningru: i only have one drive, 3 partitions.  swap, windows, ubuntu
[01:43] <Spec> revilodraw: try it anyways
[01:43] <donnaclarke> macogw-is-a-girl: do i have to disconnect the one to this computer?  then i won't be able to talk to you
[01:43] <poningru> chapium: go reset the bios
[01:43] <crimsun> or libgtk1.2
[01:43] <macogw-is-a-girl> donnaclarke: i think the reason for two outlets is an either/or for if youre comp doesnt have an ethernet port
[01:43] <Spec> revilodraw: expect the versions to be different ^.^
[01:43] <macogw-is-a-girl> s/youre/your
[01:44] <Spec> Kavon89: apt-get install apt-file && apt-file update && apt-file search libgtk-1.2.so.0
[01:44] <Hazler> macogw-is-a-girl:  How do i auto hide the panels?
[01:44] <ormandj> hey guys, i've got ubuntu 6.06lts server setup, and I want to build my own software to run on it (specific version/configure option requirements) - what's the best way to do this AND make a package for it so it can be deployed across thousands of ubuntu LTS boxes? i need to make sure that they cleanly install/can be cleanly removed in event it's needed. I checked the packaging guide but I didn't see how to specify configure options
[01:44] <revilodraw> spec: looks perf3ct, except i cant access my desktop etc, just a command line, and when i open the xorg.conf file it is empty
[01:44] <Spec> Kavon89: apt-file searches all *available* packages for files within the packages...it's great to find them's pesky libraries
[01:44] <Kavon89> ok
[01:44] <Spec> revilodraw: what? xorg is empty?
[01:44] <Kavon89> so i'll use your command Spec
[01:44] <Spec> revilodraw: on the root filesystem?
[01:44] <revilodraw> yep
[01:44] <macogw-is-a-girl> Hazler: right click and go to properties
[01:44] <cheeseboy> how do i find big files?
[01:44] <Spec> cheeseboy: just big ones?
[01:44] <cheeseboy> Spec yes
[01:45] <macogw-is-a-girl> revilodraw: dpkg-reconfigure didnt fix it?
[01:45] <macogw-is-a-girl> revilodraw: where are you looking for it?
[01:45] <revilodraw> spec:" well hold ill try again...  macogw-is-a-girl
[01:45] <macogw-is-a-girl> revilodraw: did you make the X capital?
[01:45] <revilodraw> no
 Can I upgrade Ubuntu 6.06 to 7.07 without ISO image? From the Internet? <>
[01:45] <macogw-is-a-girl> revilodraw: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:45] <revilodraw> sorry spec and macogw-is-a-girl... where do i look for xorg.conf
[01:45] <macogw-is-a-girl> revilodraw: did you type x11 or X11 because there's a difference
[01:45] <cheeseboy> rafaelscj, yes sudo apt-fet dist-upgrade
[01:46] <Rickjones> is there a LTS for dapper ? i have a question
[01:46] <revilodraw> oooohh capital
[01:46] <cheeseboy> get*
[01:46] <Spec> revilodraw: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:46] <revilodraw> spec asnd macogw-is-a-girl : brb
[01:46] <macogw-is-a-girl> Rickjones: yes dpper is ltx
[01:46] <macogw-is-a-girl> Rickjones: dapper is lts
[01:46] <Spec> revilodraw: have you tried doing: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[01:46] <phpwner> how2list packages at secure shell?
[01:46] <macogw-is-a-girl> Spec: i told him to do that already
[01:46] <rafaelscj> ->cheeseboy<-: <> tnks <>
[01:46] <ben_> how do i display users? (using x-chat)
[01:46] <Spec> ooohhh
[01:46] <Rickjones> yes dapper is LTS, is there a room for it only, or only generic room for help ?
[01:46] <Spec> revilodraw: ping me when you're back
[01:46] <macogw-is-a-girl> Rickjones: oh just here
[01:46] <Spec> revilodraw: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide
[01:47] <Spec> finally :p
[01:47] <revilodraw> spec: ok the X11/xorg.conf file is empty
[01:47] <Rickjones> i'm trying to install dapper on a HP 500 mgz with 256 ram, i'm in the LIVE cd now, trying to install, but it's hella slow, any ideas on whats taking so long ?
[01:47] <manganic> hello
[01:47] <phpwner> how2search installed packages
[01:47] <macogw> revilodraw:  you remember the /etc at the beginning?
[01:47] <Spec> revilodraw: reeeaaallllyyy
[01:47] <donnaclarke> macogw-is-a-girl:  so what do i do? do i disconnect the lapttop and see if the other one works?  does it need some configuration setting first?
[01:47] <Spec> revilodraw: and you've done dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[01:48] <macogw> Rickjones: the fact that you only have 256mb of ram
[01:48] <manganic> can someone open a pvt convo with me and walk me through getting my xchat colours set properly?
[01:48] <cheeseboy> how do i find big files?
[01:48] <Rickjones> it installed on a dell 1.5 ghz with 256 ram no problem
[01:48] <macogw> Rickjones: it's limited by your cd drive speed and the fact that the entire thing is running in RAM and you have no swap yet
[01:48] <revilodraw> it says "new file" down the bottom/... yes i did remember the /etc and yes i have done dpkg-reconfigure sserver
[01:48] <Spec> cheeseboy: do you know roughly where they are?
[01:48] <macogw> Rickjones: itll be faster after it's installed
[01:48] <Spec> cheeseboy: i can tell you a technique to find big files...kinda
[01:48] <cheeseboy> Spec no
[01:48] <AaronTheBrit> hey andy
[01:48] <Rickjones> i'm like STILL waiting on the welcome screen to come up
[01:48] <macogw> Rickjones: for a faster install, use the text-mode installer on the alternate cd
[01:49] <prophet> macogw-is-a-girl: I've tried typing what you suggested, my problem I think is that my wireless adapter (eth1) doesn't show up as a network adapter under administration->network tools, but it shows up under administration->network
[01:49] <Rickjones> step 1of6 is not fully up yet.
[01:49] <Spec> cheeseboy: you want files larger than how big?
[01:49] <macogw> Rickjones: look, minimum ram to even run teh live cd is 192mb and you have barely more than that
[01:49] <cheeseboy> Spec 500mb
[01:49] <macogw> prophet: what does network manager show?
[01:49] <manganic_> hello
[01:49] <Rickjones> guess it doesn't matter 2 other flavors of linux have no problems then ?>
[01:50] <macogw> Rickjones: ubuntu isnt lightweight
[01:50] <brandon_> I have Q i can not find anywhere... i need to know the password for The ubuntu 1.1 lite, it does not find the Xsever so i must find the password for me@example:  before i can run  dpkg
[01:50] <macogw> Rickjones: it has everything included by default to make it easy on new users who dont want to have to try to install stuff afterward
[01:50] <Rickjones> well, if i wanted hella slow, i'd stayed with windows. so , ok , thanks for that info
[01:50] <Spec> find / -type f -size +512000k -exec ls -lh {} \; | awk '{ print $9 ": " $5 }'
[01:50] <Spec> cheeseboy: ^^
[01:50] <macogw> Rickjones: xubuntu is lighter weight
[01:50] <macogw> Rickjones: i can run ubuntu on 192mb of ram *installed*
[01:50] <ben_> can anybody help me with my sound, it ain't working! PM me gogogo!
[01:51] <Spec> cheeseboy: tell me how that works ^.^
[01:51] <Manganic> help?!
[01:51] <savetheWorld> !ask
[01:51] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:51] <rolfen> help how do i make frostwire work
[01:51] <Spec> rolfen: what's not working?
[01:51] <rolfen> i have installed jre 6 from java but it still not working
[01:51] <Manganic> can someone help me with getting these colours changed in xchat?
[01:52] <switchcat> Q: I am attempting to install yahoo messenger for unix from http://messenger.yahoo.com/unix.php -- this package has a lot of dependencies that are not already installed on 7.04 so dpkg is failing, and apt-get wants to try to find ymessenger on a remote server, what is a good procedure/the proper command or a good program/interface for installing a locally downloaded package but also getting the remote dependencies at the same t
[01:52] <christop1er> well, my Ubuntu pc is really messed up
[01:52] <switchcat> manganic - is there an xchat channel?
[01:52] <cheeseboy> Spec it only gave me file sizes not name and loccation
[01:52] <Spec> switchcat: i recommend using gaim and/or pidgin to use yahoo messenger services
[01:52] <macogw> rolfen: are you using desktop effects?
[01:52] <Spec> cheeseboy: sorry
[01:52] <Manganic> don't know
[01:52] <donnaclarke> help! would anybody be willing to PM me to help me get my desktop ubuntu connected to internet?  i have a live cd running in the drive.
[01:52] <rolfen> Spec: frostwire... OOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE.
[01:52] <phpwner> how do i configure vnc by shell?
[01:52] <Manganic> is there?
[01:52] <rolfen> macogw: yeah
[01:52] <Spec> cheeseboy: take off the |  blah
[01:52] <prophet> macogw: my network settings shows modem, wired and wireless (eth1) connection
[01:52] <switchcat> spec - thanks but I dont want to.
[01:52] <Spec> cheeseboy: take out the pipe and everything after it
[01:52] <Spec> switchcat: 'k
[01:52] <brandon_> does anyone know Default Password for ubuntu 1.1 me@example??
[01:52] <Spec> rolfen: you need to install a valid JRE
[01:52] <Spec> !jre
[01:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:52] <Spec> !java
[01:52] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[01:52] <Spec> see that please
[01:53] <Manganic> sorry... wrong room
[01:53] <rolfen> Spec: I did! i installed the JRE from java.com
[01:53] <cheeseboy> Spec the what??
[01:53] <mactimes> Hello there.
[01:53] <mactimes> I have a tiny problem with my display
[01:53] <Spec> cheeseboy: find / -type f -size +512000k -exec ls -lh {} \;
[01:53] <wifenfeffer> Hi, I have a little problem with my networking in Ubuntu
[01:53] <wifenfeffer> before I installed I could browse all my samba exports fine...
[01:53] <astro76> brandon_, what is ubuntu 1.1??
[01:53] <mactimes> I would like to change the refresh rate to 75Hz, but it will only allow me to change it to 50 or 55 hz
[01:53] <brandon_> lite
[01:53] <mactimes> Could anyone help me on that, please?
[01:54] <steel_lady> I am conected to Amule and in the middle of the DL. I don't want to loose my order but I don't have sound because my card has the problem. how to reset the sound card without resetting the comp
[01:54] <wifenfeffer> but now that it's installed, I can't see any of my samba shares
[01:54] <macogw> brandon_: thats not an official ubuntu release
[01:54] <rolfen> I'm going to google....
[01:54] <steel_lady> I am conected to Amule and in the middle of the DL. I don't want to loose my order but I don't have sound because my card has the problem. how to reset the sound card without resetting the comp???
[01:54] <UbuntuNub> ubuntu seems somewhat slow for me...
[01:54] <Flannel> brandon_: You'll have to ask whoever puts out that distro
[01:54] <wifenfeffer> UbuntuNub, are you on the livecd ?
[01:54] <Spec> steel_lady: maybe try /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[01:54] <brandon_> Thanks for all the info :)
[01:55] <Spec> steel_lady: i mean: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[01:55] <cheeseboy> Spec that did it thanks
[01:55] <phpwner> !vnc
[01:55] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[01:55] <fabiovalinhos> mactimes: http://ubuntuforum-pt.org/index.php?topic=21723.0
[01:56] <mactimes> fabiovalinhos: Thanks! I'll take a look at it.
[01:56] <fabiovalinhos> mactimes: the only trouble is that post is in portuguese
[01:56] <steel_lady> Still no sound Spec :-( Thanx for the effort
[01:56] <mactimes> fabiovalinhos: No problem =) Brasil-sil-sil-sil-sil!
[01:56] <fabiovalinhos> mactimes: use google translator or same tools
[01:57] <Spec> steel_lady: yeah....the other thing you could do is manually unload all the modules and reload them
[01:57] <revilodraw> spec: im in xorg.cong and its not EMPTY
[01:57] <Spec> steel_lady: but that's a pain
[01:57] <Spec> revilodraw: woot
[01:57] <fabiovalinhos> ahahhaa
[01:57] <revilodraw> spec; jhahah so now what
[01:57] <Spec> revilodraw: so...does it work? heh, did you get that second link i gave you?
[01:57] <mactimes> fabiovalinhos: ^^
[01:57] <Spec> revilodraw: the second link was for feisty
[01:57] <mactimes> fabiovalinhos: Obrigado!!!!
[01:57] <phpwner> is vnc-common the client or server?
[01:57] <Cuisinart> I need some help
[01:57] <jport> anyone get photoshop cs2 working in ubuntu
[01:57] <steel_lady> Spec I am a blonde, so better wait...
[01:57] <Cuisinart> My Network card doesn't show up
[01:57] <revilodraw> spec; yeh ill read it npow and come back if it doesnt work... thank you very much for your help today
[01:57] <SpeakerMania> How can I mount my hard drive as read write? It will only mount in Read only right now, and from the properties box it won't let me change it.
[01:57] <Cuisinart> Are there drivers that I don't have or something?
[01:58] <digital1> I just tried to backup a system using mondo. It doesn't work. Does anyone know if the mondo package in Ubuntu works at all?
[01:58] <revilodraw> macogw; thank you too
[01:58] <Spec> revilodraw: yeah, if you need the cli version of a gui thing
[01:58] <Spec> revilodraw: i'll be able to help you out on that
[01:58] <Spec> if you need a gui thing for a cli however, i'm not so great at
[01:58] <jport> SpeakerMania i had the same problem you have to edit your /etc/fstab
[01:58] <donnaclarke> help! would anybody be willing to PM me to help me get my desktop ubuntu connected to internet? i have a live cd running in the drive.
[01:58] <revilodraw> spec: no idea what cli is but tnaks heaps
[01:58] <SpeakerMania> Thanks, brb
[01:58] <Spec> revilodraw: command line interface :p
[01:58] <vzduch> SpeakerMania: what filesystem?
[01:58] <SpeakerMania> NTFS
[01:58] <Spec> donnaclarke: wanna do it the cli way? :)
[01:58] <vzduch> !ntfs | SpeakerMania
[01:58] <ubotu> SpeakerMania: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:59] <SpeakerMania> vzduch, I have ntfs-3g
[01:59] <CppIsWeird> is there an amsn like project for yahoo?
[01:59] <phpwner> when i try to su it asks for root password but i was never asked for one at install time
[01:59] <donnaclarke> Spec: i want to do it any way i can get connected :)
[01:59] <astro76> SpeakerMania, do you have ntfs-config installed, you'll need that too
[01:59] <Flannel> phpwner: Ubuntu doesn't use the root account.  su doesn't work, use sudo instead
[01:59] <wifenfeffer> why can't I see samba shares from a ubuntu install when I could see them from the livecd ?  I can access them fine, but I have to type in the full name of them :(
[01:59] <donnaclarke> Spec: what's cli?
[01:59] <phpwner> Flannel WTF
[02:00] <HorizonXP> hey guys
[02:00] <Spec> donnaclarke: command line interface, the terminal.
[02:00] <vzduch> astro76: no, you don't.. if you know how to tweak the fstab by hand, that is :>
[02:00] <SpeakerMania> astro76, yeah I do. I have both boxes checked for write support on both internal and external
[02:00] <phpwner> whats the default root password then for sudo?
[02:00] <HorizonXP> i installed vmware-server, but i don't have the vmnet interfaces... know how i can get them?
[02:00] <Spec> phpwner: there is none
[02:00] <phpwner> it asks for one
[02:00] <Spec> phpwner: to get root you sudo...the password for sudo is your user's password
[02:00] <Flannel> phpwner: There is no root password, it asks for your user password
[02:00] <yuesef1> i just install ssh server, how to add an account to it?
[02:00] <donnaclarke> Spec: if you'll help me through it, i'll pull up terminal
[02:00] <phpwner> blah
[02:00] <Spec> yuesef1: system accounts
[02:00] <Flannel> yuesef1: it uses the user accounts on your machine
[02:00] <Spec> donnaclarke: ok
[02:00] <yuesef1> ah
[02:00] <Spec> donnaclarke: explain to me your network please :)
[02:00] <yuesef1> thanks
[02:00] <Spec> donnaclarke: and your network devices
[02:01] <vzduch> !root | phpwner
[02:01] <ubotu> phpwner: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[02:01] <Flegma> pls how can i remove package without removing dependencies????
[02:02] <Flannel> Flegma: you want to remove a package without removing it's depends? or remove a package without removing stuff thaat depends on it?
[02:02] <Cuisinart> I just got a new hp Pavillion dv2000t notebook and I put Ubuntu on it. My network card is not supported. Do I need drivers or what do I have to do?
[02:02] <UbuntuNub> Ello mates, I have a  bit of a problem when installing ubuntu linux on a USB external hdd, I get failure to unmount parition,....
[02:02] <ben_> anyone here using xchat?
[02:02] <prophet> is there a reason why my network card (eth1:Broadcom 4309) doesn't show up as a network device under network tools?
[02:02] <apocalypticunion> is there a way i can have multiple wallpapers on my different workspaces?
[02:02] <Spec> Cuisinart: what network card?
[02:02] <donnaclarke> Spec: i have a motorola surfboard cable broadband modem.  it has a usb running out to this laptop i'm on, and i had plugged an thernet to the desktop that i'm trying to hook up
[02:02] <person51090> I want to edit menu.lst in /boot/grub, but it is read only
[02:02] <person51090> what do i do?
[02:02] <Flegma> Flannel,  i want to remove package without removing stuff depends on it
[02:02] <UbuntuNub> !root | uboto
[02:02] <ubotu> uboto: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[02:02] <Flannel> person51090: you need to use sudo.  gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst or sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:02] <Flegma> Flannel,  i want to remove one version of python....
[02:03] <Spec> !find bcm
[02:03] <ubotu> Found: abcm2ps, abcmidi, abcmidi-yaps, bcm43xx-fwcutter, libbcmail-java (and 17 others)
[02:03] <person51090> Flannel: thanks so much!
[02:03] <Flannel> Flegma: You can't.  That's the whole point of package management, to keep your system working.
[02:03] <Spec> prophet: did you do apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter ?
[02:03] <UbuntuNub> ubotu: help
[02:03] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:03] <person51090> Flannel: emacs ok too?
[02:03] <Spec> !bcm43xx
[02:03] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[02:03] <Spec> prophet: ^^
[02:03] <prophet> Spec: yes
[02:03] <Flannel> person51090: yeah, any text editor.  GUI ones get gksu, CLI ones get sudo
[02:03] <Spec> did you read the wiki?
[02:03] <donnaclarke> Spec: i have terminal open
[02:03] <Flegma> Flannel,  so is there any possibility to switch used version of python?
[02:03] <UbuntuNub> !<factoid>
[02:03] <Spec> donnaclarke: err, i don't understand your setup
[02:04] <prophet> Spec: I did.....tried using the ndiswrapper to get the driver installed....still stuck
[02:04] <Flannel> Flegma: what version of python are you looking to install?
[02:04] <Spec> prophet: ndiswrapper -l says..?
[02:04] <donnaclarke> Spec: i have cable broadband
[02:04] <Spec> donnaclarke: ok...it plugs into a router?
[02:04] <Spec> donnaclarke: laptop? desktop? which is running ubuntu
[02:04] <UbuntuNub> !tell ubuntunub about failure to mount
[02:04] <Flegma> Flannel,  i have installed 2.4 and 2.5..but some modules are installed in 2.4 folder and i want them in 2.5....
[02:04] <prophet> Spec: b57win32 : driver installed
[02:04] <prophet>         device (14E4:16A6) present (alternate driver: tg3)
[02:04] <prophet> bcmwl5 : driver installed
[02:04] <prophet>         device (14E4:4324) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx)
[02:04] <Flannel> !paste | prophet
[02:04] <ubotu> prophet: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:05] <donnaclarke> Spec: no router, desktop has live cd of feisty in it, laptop running on win 98
[02:05] <person51090> Flannel: thanks so much. I used emacs, and it worked perfectly. now my dual boot is complete!
[02:05] <Spec> donnaclarke: so you're directly connecting the internet to what?
[02:05] <phpwner> incoming:
[02:05] <Spec> prophet: looks like device and driver are present
[02:05] <phpwner> jason@linuxmce:/$ sudo dpkg -i vnc-common
[02:05] <phpwner> dpkg: error processing vnc-common (--install):
[02:05] <phpwner>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[02:05] <phpwner> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:05] <phpwner>  vnc-common
[02:05] <PurpZeY> !paste | phpwner
[02:05] <ubotu> phpwner: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:06] <donnaclarke> Spec: motorola surfboard cable modem
[02:06] <Spec> prophet: can you pastebin ifconfig -a
[02:06] <phpwner> only 5 lines
[02:06] <Spec> donnaclarke: and it's plugged in directly to....what?
[02:06] <Flannel> Flegma: You should just install 2.5 modules, most of the ones in the repos look to be 2.5 modules anyway.  You're running 7.04, right?
[02:06] <bruenig> phpwner, you use dpkg to install debs, that was not a deb, I know that because it doesn't in .deb
[02:06] <bruenig> end in*
[02:06] <Spec> donnaclarke: [line into house] -->[cable modem] --> laptop?
[02:06] <Flegma> Flannel,  yes...
[02:07] <Flannel> Flegma: yeah, most of the stuff in the repos is for 2.5
[02:07] <Flegma> Flannel,  but, i cant install for example 2.4 or 2.5 version
[02:07] <phpwner> bruenig i appended .deb and still nothing
[02:07] <donnaclarke> Spec: laptop has usb running from cable modem; desktop has ethernet connected driectly to same modem
[02:07] <bruenig> phpwner, do you have the file on your disk
[02:07] <Flegma> Flannel,  i have gtk installed only in 2.4 dir
[02:07] <Flegma> Flannel,  i ll try to reinstall it
[02:08] <prophet> Spec: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29170/
[02:08] <Spec> donnaclarke: so you have usb and ethernet running from the modem?
[02:08] <Spec> donnaclarke: and usb = windows and ethernet = ubuntu?
[02:09] <ctothej> is it beneficial to install an antivirus tool on ubuntu?
[02:09] <Mediahunter> i have a questiong about VNC i think that it what it is. I have windows vista on the other pation on this PC and i was wondering if i can use Wine or something to run vista  at the same time as Ubuntu
[02:09] <bruenig> ctothej, no
[02:09] <__mikem> ctothej, I have yet to see a virus made for linux
[02:09] <Flannel> Flegma: which package did you install?  It looks like python-gtk2 installs it, and all 2.X versions can use it
[02:09] <Spec> prophet: you have three network cards?
[02:09] <macogw> Flannel: ooo altgr is how the alt+keypad worked in windows!
[02:10] <donnaclarke> Spec: yes, usb and ethernet running from modem; usb to this laptop, and ethernet to desktop
[02:10] <PurpZeY> __mikem: They do exist...but only as concepts.
[02:10] <macogw> Flannel: but windows let you use it as alt for ctrl alt del and to use it as altgf
[02:10] <macogw> *altgr
[02:10] <Flegma> Flannel, python-gtk2....
[02:10] <vzduch> macogw: no, Alt+<NumPadCode>
[02:10] <Spec> donnaclarke: ok, so in the cli, type 'ifconfig' and then take the output and pastebin it...follow the output with a line ("---------"), and then paste the output of: ifconfig -a
[02:10] <prophet> Spec: eth0:wired, eth1:internal wireless, eth2:usb wireless (usb wireless the only way to connect to the internet currently)
[02:10] <ctothej> bruenig, __mikem: thats what i thought. is it good to install an application that will monitor file changes?
[02:10] <Spec> prophet: so your internal wireless is tg3/
[02:10] <Spec> prophet: sorry, wired*
[02:10] <macogw> vzduch: picky!
[02:11] <Cuisinart> help!
[02:11] <Spec> prophet: pastebin iwconfig then please
[02:11] <vzduch> macogw: it's a difference
[02:11] <Spec> or /pm me with the info
[02:11] <Spec> might be faster
[02:11] <HorizonXP> hey, in vmware, on winxp, i can ping the IP address and gateway, but I can't ping it from Ubuntu (my host OS) any ideas?
[02:11] <donnaclarke> Spec:  uuuuuuhhhhhhh, WHAT??? :) newbie here.
[02:11] <macogw> vzduch: not one thats going to be misinterpretted
[02:11] <Kavon89> Hi again, Enemy Territory doesn't have sound, I remember using this command before but it doesn't work, it says Permission Denied. " echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss "
[02:11] <vzduch> AltGr won't work for that
[02:11] <Cuisinart> My network card is not supported in ubuntu. What do I do?
[02:11] <macogw> vzduch: oh nevermind
[02:11] <Spec> donnaclarke: type "ifconfig", take the output, and paste it to me in a private message
[02:11] <Cuisinart> help!
[02:11] <Spec> donnaclarke: then type "ifconfig -a" and paste it to me in a private message
[02:11] <gilster> can anyone here tell me how to process cue files for splicing large audio files/?
[02:12] <bruenig> ctothej, it is all basically pointless, I don't know how entrenched you are into windows thought, but just don't worry about any of that stuff anymore
[02:12] <vzduch> Cuisinart: buy another
[02:12] <macogw> vzduch: i thought you were pointing out numpad > <numpadcode> sorry
[02:12] <Spec> 1cue
[02:12] <Spec> !cue
[02:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cue - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:12] <PurpZeY> Cuisinart: Search the forums.
[02:12] <Cuisinart> ok
[02:12] <Cuisinart> thanks
[02:12] <macogw> Cuisinart: wired or wireless
[02:12] <Kprofthreat> Cuisinart: Get a TEW-423
[02:12] <donnaclarke> Spec: ifconfig
[02:12] <PMantis> How can I lookup the UUID of a partition?
[02:12] <Cuisinart> both
[02:12] <Spec> gilster: did you try to google for, "ubuntu + cue files"
[02:12] <Cuisinart> tew-423?
[02:12] <donnaclarke> Spec: ifconfig-a
[02:12] <Kprofthreat> It's a wireless adapter
[02:12] <Cuisinart> ok
[02:12] <Spec> donnaclarke: uhh
[02:12] <Cuisinart> thanks
[02:12] <Kprofthreat> A real cheapie
[02:13] <Cuisinart> oh
[02:13] <Spec> donnaclarke: i meant type those in the terminal, and paste the output to a *private* message to me, or pastebin it all at once
[02:13] <poningru> PMantis: cat /dev/disks/by-uuid or something like that
[02:13] <Cuisinart> I wanted to get my internal working
[02:13] <Kavon89> Hi again, Enemy Territory doesn't have sound, I remember using this command before but it doesn't work, it says Permission Denied. " echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss " Anyone know why I can't run it under sudo or su? Su gives me wrong password. :/
[02:13] <Kprofthreat> What's your internal?
[02:13] <gilster> Spec: i guess i will have to eh? :-)
[02:13] <Cuisinart> Uh hold on
[02:13] <ctothej> bruenig: i've been using ubuntu for about 6 months now, but was unsure what hacking techniques or security considerations are of most concern.
[02:13] <Spec> gilster: do you see the insane amount of traffic in this channel? =P
[02:13] <Cuisinart> just a sec
[02:13] <donnaclarke> Spec:  you mean type  that into the terminal and send you what it types back to me?
[02:13] <PMantis> poningru: Ohhhhhhhh yeah..... thanks!
[02:13] <Spec> donnaclarke: i do indeed
[02:13] <Kprofthreat> Kavon98: You either need to compile an openal lib or run sudo -s first before that command
[02:14] <Spec> donnaclarke: do *not* paste it in this channel....pastebin or pm only
[02:14] <bruenig> ctothej, firewall is the only thing and even that I have never paid attention to
[02:14] <Cuisinart> - Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 4965AGN
[02:14] <Kprofthreat> Kavon89: You either need to compile an openal lib or run sudo -s first before that command
[02:14] <Kavon89> ok
[02:14] <Kprofthreat> Ew
[02:14] <phpwner> Xvnc4 :1 -desktop linuxmce:1 (jason) -auth /home/jason/.Xauthority -geometry 1024x768 -depth 16 -rfbwait 30000 is running but i can't vnc into my server. wtf?
[02:14] <donnaclarke> Spec: how do i pastebin?
[02:14] <Kprofthreat> Intel
[02:14] <Cuisinart> yeah
[02:14] <Kprofthreat> www.pastebin.ca
[02:14] <Spec> !pastebin
[02:14] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:14] <macogw> Cuisinart: intel wireless should always work
[02:14] <ctothej> bruenig: cool thanks
[02:14] <Cuisinart> Ok
[02:14] <mavsman4457> I am trying to get the mdeibuntu repositories and when i do the last command, "sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update", it just hangs
[02:14] <bruenig> Cuisinart, last ipw driver ought is ipw3945 I believe, you need to use ndiswrapper.
[02:14] <Spec> of course the "!pastebin" has to be four lines of flood. :p
[02:14] <mavsman4457> medibuntu
[02:14] <Cuisinart> It only shows my modem though
[02:14] <Cuisinart> ok
[02:14] <bruenig> out*
[02:14] <Cuisinart> does ndiswrapper work for wired as well?
[02:15] <prophet> Spec: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29171/
[02:15] <Spec> probably
[02:15] <bruenig> Cuisinart, your wired connection should work without it
[02:15] <gilster> Spec: thanks for point that out, that somehow escaped me.
[02:15] <Kprofthreat> Probably, but you shouldn't need to run ndiswrapper
[02:15] <Cuisinart> Ok
[02:15] <Kprofthreat> W/ your wired
[02:15] <poningru> Cuisinart: no which one do you have?
[02:15] <Cuisinart> just a sec
[02:15] <gilster> and yes i did do google on it.
[02:15] <Spec> prophet: so what's not working exactly?
[02:15] <Kavon89> Kproofthreat: It still gives me " echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss "
[02:15] <Kavon89> woops
[02:15] <Cuisinart> Honestly, I am not quite sure
[02:15] <gilster> Spec: i cant find what i am looking for
[02:15] <bobsomebody> die hard 3 rules, u must go see it. Actually had a couple real linux machines in it
[02:16] <macogw> Kprofthreat: TEW-424UB should be perfectly supported
[02:16] <Cuisinart> It is an intel integrated
[02:16] <bruenig> I don't know of any wired connections that require drivers, or any special non kernel stuff
[02:16] <Kavon89> Kproofthreat: It gives me " bash: /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss: Permission denied
[02:16] <Kavon89>  "
[02:16] <Spec> Kavon89: sudo in front
[02:16] <macogw> Kavon89: sudo
[02:16] <Spec> macogw: win :)
[02:16] <poningru> Cuisinart: do a lspci -vv
[02:16] <poningru> and see if you can find it
[02:16] <Cuisinart> ok
[02:16] <prophet> Spec: eth1 does not show up under administration->network devices, and I cannot make any wireless connections if eth2 is not connected
[02:16] <donnaclarke> Spec: how will i transfer the output from the desktop to you?  the desktop has no connection.  will i just type it to a private msg to yu?
[02:16] <Spec> prophet: can you associate with an access point with eth1? ie: iwconfig eth1 essid belkin && iwconfig eth1 rate 11M
[02:17] <Kavon89> ok
[02:17] <Spec> prophet: then please repaste: iwconfig and ifconfig in the same patsebin
[02:17] <Kprofthreat> macogw: I know. I used that before.
[02:17] <gilster> I am looking for a non-command line tool for splitting a large wave file into tracks using a premade cue file
[02:17] <PMantis> One other question: I have an external Hans-G LCD monitor for my laptop. With 6.10 (and 7.04 after dist-upgrade) it would correctly boot to 1280x1024 resolution. Now, it boots to 640x480 with the external monitor. how can I force it to use the correct resolution?
[02:17] <macogw> Kprofthreat: oh i thought maybe the reason you suggested 423 was because you thought only certain TEW's worked
[02:17] <Kavon89> It still says Permission Denied... It doesn't even give me a chance to enter the password.
[02:17] <PMantis> Forgot to state: "Now" is after a fresh 7.04 install
[02:18] <macogw> Kavon89: put sudo before it. then itll ask for password
[02:18] <Cuisinart> Well, I found my ethernet adapter, but it still is not showing up in networking
[02:18] <Spec> donnaclarke: oi
[02:18] <donnaclarke> Spec: says command not found
[02:18] <Kprofthreat> macogw: Nah, I just use an internal 423 currently.
[02:18] <Spec> donnaclarke: sudo ifconfig
[02:18] <macogw> Kprofthreat: ah gotcha
[02:18] <Kprofthreat> macogw: But the UB ones work too.
[02:18] <Spec> donnaclarke: what's it say?
[02:18] <Kprofthreat> =] 
[02:18] <Cuisinart> It says marvell tech blah blah: unknown device
[02:18] <donnaclarke> Spec: ok i try again
[02:18] <Kavon89> I entered this: " sudo echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss " and It says the same Permission Denied.
[02:19] <gilster> spec:I am looking for a non-command line tool for splitting a large wave file into tracks using a premade cue file
[02:19] <mavsman4457> Hello I am having trouble getting th medibuntu repositories
[02:19] <Spec> gilster: can't help you
[02:19] <Spec> :p
[02:19] <Spec> Kavon89: yeah
[02:19] <Spec> Kavon89: makes sense
[02:19] <Spec> Kavon89: try this: sudo su -
[02:19] <Spec> Kavon89: then do the echo command
[02:19] <Kavon89> ok
[02:19] <macogw> Kprofthreat: i put a post on my blog that's a "what to buy" for wireless. tew-424ub for usb (with link to buy it) and ipw3945 mini pci and mini pci-e versions with links to buy so anyone wanting to add wireless with usb or change their internal wireless card on a laptop to one that works can get them
[02:19] <Spec> Kavon89: the problem is you're redirecting the root-level'd echo command with user-level I/O redirection
[02:19] <donnaclarke> Spec: omg, it says alot...
[02:20] <Spec> donnaclarke: yes it does
[02:20] <Cuisinart> ..
[02:20] <Spec> donnaclarke: give me the first line, ignore the whole 'lo' stanza
[02:20] <Spec> donnaclarke: give me every line that looks like the line that says 'lo', except not 'lo' :p
[02:20] <Kavon89> " sudo su echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss " Still permission denied, no chance for me to enter pw
[02:20] <gilster> does anyone know if there is a GUI for using cuetools?
[02:21] <jkljlk> Kavon89 split up su after sudo and press enter
[02:21] <EADG> gilster: try apt-cache search <search term> in a terminal.
[02:21] <Kavon89> ah, i did "sudo su" then the echo stuff, workd
[02:21] <emoz> ive installed compiz fusion on feisty, seems to work fine but i cant get the desktop cube to work
[02:21] <Kavon89> lets try it
[02:22] <h1st0> Anyone know if there is a way to have rhythmbox not in the window list since it already has an icon in notification area?
[02:22] <phpwner> how do i allow port 5900 tcp in with iptables?
[02:22] <gilster> EADG: thanks
[02:22] <EADG> gilster: I 'audio editor' returned a few results, but I wouldn't know what would help you out with cues.
[02:22] <dredhammer> how do i get the real media player to play actual real media files? it keeps telling me  i need the realplayer codecs
[02:22] <dredhammer> i even tried the helix player
[02:22] <Kavon89> yay it works. thanks :D
[02:22] <dredhammer> it gives the same error
[02:22] <gilster> i have tried audacity for breaking tracks  but it does not seem to accept these cue files
[02:23] <jkljlk> phpwner man iptables
[02:23] <Kavon89> How do I delete a folder or thing from the Applications menu?
[02:23] <emoz> dredhammer, try install real player
[02:23] <macogw> Kavon89: right click
[02:23] <rockets> Anybody know any apps that do what soundkonverter does, but are NOT soundkonverter
[02:24] <dredhammer> i did it was from the repos
[02:24] <jkljlk> rockets ffmpeg
[02:24] <donnaclarke> Spec: tried to PM you but says 'closed to unregistered users'
[02:24] <h1st0> Similair to gaims behavior ex: when its minimized its just in notification area instead of both?
[02:24] <Kavon89> I have an Other -> enemy-territory in the Applications drop down, rightclick on the Other folder does nothing, on enemy-territory launcher it doesn't have an option to delete.
[02:24] <CppIsWeird> can anyone give me some direction. I have a sound issue. When i first boot, i have sound, but sometime afterwards sound dies for no reason that i can determine. in the research i've done there are apparently a lot of problems with ubuntu and my Intel Corporation 82801G sound card. I see many instructions that run in every direction on how to get my sound to work. But in any of the described symptoms, sound either works, or doesnt, or has
[02:24] <CppIsWeird> issues with headphones. Not like what problem i've described.
[02:25] <donnaclarke> can you open a channel to me, maybe i did it wrong
[02:25] <jkljlk> Kavon89 try things such right click
[02:25] <jkljlk> (in menu)
[02:25] <donnaclarke> Spec: can you open a channel to me?  maybe i did it wrong... says PM closed to unregistered users
[02:25] <gilster> Spec: I am not sure if the :p was meant to indicate that you cant help me or dont want to help me?
[02:25] <Kavon89> ah, i got it, right click the Applications thing
[02:26] <jkthecjer> anyone here done any coding in C (specifically with opengl and sdl)?
[02:26] <macogw> !register | donnaclarke
[02:26] <ubotu> donnaclarke: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[02:26] <fex905> Any one know about file recovery of windows files using ubuntu?
[02:27] <dr_willis> fex905,  mount the windows partitiosn, copy the files somwhere else. :)
[02:27] <Spec> gilster: can't
[02:27] <Spec> gilster: don't know much :p
[02:27] <fex905> Any one know about file recovery of windows files using ubuntu?
[02:27] <vzduch> !repeat
[02:27] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:27] <shnastybiznastic> fex905: mount the windows partition, copy the files over
[02:27] <donnaclarke> !register / donnaclarke
[02:28] <vzduch> donnaclarke: | != /
[02:28] <macogw> donnaclarke: do what ubotu said to do
[02:28] <fex905> what about new joiners and people who cant see what was typed earlier?
[02:28] <macogw> fex905: theyre probably here to ask not answer anyway
[02:29] <blackace11> hello my openoffice suite isn't runing... says internal error!!!
[02:29] <fex905> i feel thelinux love
[02:29] <macogw> fex905: about 1 in 50 people who comes in here is actually helping other people
[02:29] <macogw> blackace11:  any errors running from the terminal?
[02:29] <h1st0> nvm i'm retarded didn't realize the right click options to hide the music player.
[02:29] <blackace11> idk
[02:29] <phpwner> can somebody please help me set up vnc?
[02:30] <phpwner> vnc-common is installed
[02:30] <donnaclarke> omg... i don't know how
[02:30] <dr_willis> phpwner,  i suggest installing vnc4server
[02:30] <phpwner> i set a password
[02:30] <macogw> blackace11: so try it
[02:30] <phpwner> i installed vnc4server
[02:30] <blackace11> how?
[02:30] <macogw> donnaclarke: ubotu gave you a link. click it
[02:30] <phpwner> set a password
[02:30] <dr_willis> phpwner,  i find it works better. some others dont set up things quite as good.
[02:30] <blackace11> openoffice ?
[02:30] <dr_willis> phpwner,  run 'vncserver' yet?
[02:30] <macogw> blackace11: applications > accessories > terminal
[02:30] <Ominous_> i accidently dragged the shutdown button off right of the top bar, how do i get it back on
[02:30] <macogw> blackace11: type "ooffice"
[02:30] <macogw> Ominous_: right click on panel and add it back
[02:30] <blackace11> yeah
[02:30] <vzduch> macogw: wasn't it 'soffice'?
[02:31] <macogw> vzduch: dont think so...
[02:31] <ianmcorvidae> Nah, it's ooffice :)
[02:31] <macogw> vzduch: definitely ooffice
[02:31] <phpwner> New sdfasdfasdfa desktop is adfasdf:2
[02:31] <Ominous_> macogw, i have done, but its outside the group on the right now
[02:31] <blackace11> it got same error
[02:31] <phpwner> i think i might have multiple vnc servers up
[02:31] <macogw> Ominous_:  right click and move it
[02:31] <ianmcorvidae> Looks like both may work, actually.
[02:31] <ianmcorvidae> Anyway.
[02:31] <blackace11> macogw: it gave same error
[02:31] <dr_willis> phpwner,  yep.. if ya dont uise 'vncserver --kill :1' and so forth.. it will spawn more
[02:31] <Ominous_> macogw, dosent move over
[02:31] <dr_willis> phpwner,  check in .vnc for logs
[02:32] <blackace11> ominous: if you put colon after someones name it turns it read for them
[02:32] <fuzzypig> phpwner: There's an option to enable the vnc server included with Ubuntu in your system menu
[02:32] <rolfen> i have downloaded about 200 megs of uploads/dependencies/plugins/whatnot today
[02:33] <dr_willis> phpwner,  now what/how you use vnc depends on what you want it to do also. Its very flexiable and has a dozen variants.
[02:33] <fuzzypig> On the menu bar at the top of your screen, System > Preferences > Remote Desktop
[02:33] <ben_> where do you type code? soz i am ubernnoob :D
[02:33] <dr_willis> rolfen,  ive proberly done that in the last 10 min. :)
[02:33] <fuzzypig> code?
[02:33] <member22> hi
[02:33] <member22> Can sopmeone help me i just updated my cups server
[02:33] <member22> and it keeps giving me these errors even after reinstalling
[02:33] <blackace11> macogw: do i need to 'purge' it and reinstall?
[02:33] <member22>  Local authentication certificate not found!
[02:33] <fex905> ahh just like a normal chat room
[02:33] <ben_> where do i type all that sudo stuff etc?
[02:33] <member22> and i cant print anything or choose a printer..
[02:33] <dr_willis> !shell | ben
[02:33] <ubotu> ben: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[02:33] <rolfen> dr_willis: well... not good...
[02:33] <dr_willis> !shell | ben_
[02:33] <ubotu> ben_: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[02:34] <member22> i tried googling and i see a number of entries..
[02:34] <blackace11> macogw: if so what is command?
[02:34] <dr_willis> rolfen,  not good? updates are good...
[02:34] <rolfen> dr_willis: i mean not good for ubuntu
[02:34] <fuzzypig> !help
[02:34] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:34] <ben_> thanks ^^
[02:34] <member22> !help ppd?
[02:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help ppd? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:34] <member22> !help cups
[02:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help cups - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:34] <rolfen> dr_willis: yeah but we cant brag anymore how linux is more efficient then windowns
[02:34] <dr_willis> rolfen,  your logic is lacking. :)  no updates = no security fix's
[02:34] <ben_> installed linux for first time now :)
[02:34] <vzduch> !cups
[02:34] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[02:34] <dr_willis> rolfen,  you havent seen the last few rounds of Windows Updates have ya...
[02:34] <member22> will that tell me that error?
[02:34] <member22> lol
[02:34] <member22>  Local authentication certificate not found!'
[02:34] <rolfen> dr_willis: no :)
[02:35] <dr_willis> rolfen,  havent tried vista yet either have ya.. :)
[02:35] <fuzzypig> !help register
[02:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help register - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:35] <member22> anyone?
[02:35] <fuzzypig> !register | fuzzypig
[02:35] <rolfen> dr_willis: no, i'd rather not...
[02:35] <dr_willis> rolfen,  :) trust me - Linux IS more efficient.
[02:35] <blackace11> fuzzypig: /msg nickserv help
[02:35] <Little`Bubble> Moin there =)
[02:36] <member22> the wiki is no help.. sigh. Please someone help me with cups is there a bug with dapper
[02:36] <blackace11> rolfen: i have xp vista and ubuntu on my laptop... i spend 99% on ubuntu cause it's better
[02:36] <rolfen> dr_willis: yup. Still it would be good if they could implement some sort of binary diff system
[02:36] <rolfen> blackace11: yeah ubuntu is good
[02:36] <rolfen> but you need to spend lots of time configuring it after the 1st install
[02:36] <Little`Bubble> i'm agree with you rolfen !
[02:36] <dr_willis> rolfen,  interesting idea.. but ive never seen any other OS do that either.. not many games do that either..
[02:36] <blackace11> rolfen: have u set up your ubuntu with compiz fusion?
[02:37] <dr_willis> How about TorrentUpdates! :)
[02:37] <lukillas> hi all
[02:37] <lukillas> how can i translate my kde from english to spanish?
[02:37] <rolfen> blackace11: i have beryl
[02:37] <blackace11> i had beryl
[02:37] <ben_> is there a way to copy/paste into terminal?
[02:37] <blackace11> then i switched to compiz fusion
[02:37] <dr_willis> of course ive not seen that many Ubuntu updates over the last week or so.. Perhaps 3 or so a day.
[02:37] <dr_willis> wonder if theres a log/history site somewhere.
[02:37] <blackace11> with emerald window manager
[02:38] <the_consul> Can anyone tell me the syntax for issuing a command via crontab that will open a windowed application?  0 0 * * * deluge doesn't work...I'm thinking there's a special syntax for opening windowed applications via cron...
[02:38] <EADG> ben_: in X yes... just c/p as you would normally. From X to cli, no.
[02:38] <member22> darn CUPS new version of dapper is bugged :( and i cant find a fix..
[02:38] <dr_willis> the_consul,  opening up a 'X program with gui, from crontab' is going to be rather hard. for security reasons
[02:38] <blackace11> can someone help me with my openoffice program it wont open!!!
[02:38] <fuzzypig> ben_: Instead of ctrl-v and ctrl-c, use ctrl-shift-v and ctrl-shift c
[02:38] <blackace11> PLEASE
[02:39] <ieee802> hi can someone help me
[02:39] <dr_willis> the_consul,  if they are gettting ran by the same user that has X going.. that makes it a little easier.
[02:39] <ieee802> i started using ubuntu
[02:39] <ieee802> now and having some problems
[02:39] <Rienzilla> it's possible to loosen those restrictions with xhost
[02:39] <ieee802> can i ask?
[02:39] <poningru> ieee802: yes
[02:39] <dr_willis> the_consul,  in that case you would need to export the DISPLAY variable.
[02:39] <blackace11> ieee802: tell us your problem then if we know it we will help
[02:39] <Rei-chan> Don't ask to ask, just ask, ieee802  :)
[02:39] <the_consul> dr_willis: really...I'm using sudo crontab -e to add the line in my crontab file...
[02:39] <bruenig> the_consul, first, cron doesn't inherit environment variables, including PATH, so either specify that in crontab or use full paths, /usr/bin/deluge, along the same line you need to give it the DISPLAY variable, DISPLAY=:0, DISPLAY=:0 /usr/bin/deluge
[02:39] <ieee802> i have a intel 2200
[02:39] <ben_> thanks fuzzy :D
[02:39] <ieee802> bg
[02:39] <poningru> blackace11: whats wrong?
[02:39] <ieee802> wireless on my centrino
[02:39] <fuzzypig> np
[02:39] <macogw> ieee802: thats good it should work perfectly
[02:39] <dr_willis> the_consul,  as a user, running the app.. ya need to set DISPLAY properly then.
[02:39] <the_consul> bruenig:  I didn't writ it here but I did have it as /usr/bin/deluge
[02:39] <ieee802> nope
[02:40] <blackace11> poningru: error message at startup of ooffice
[02:40] <poningru> whats the error?
[02:40] <ieee802> it doesn't work
[02:40] <macogw> ieee802: blasphemy!
[02:40] <bruenig> the_consul, see DISPLAY
[02:40] <ieee802> i have
[02:40] <dr_willis> isent there some sort of schedulare program with a gui? i cant rember  seeing any
[02:40] <ieee802> connected the wireless ok
[02:40] <Rienzilla> the_consul: The point is not that crontab isnt starting your program, the point is that the program doesn know where, or isn't allowed to, display something
[02:40] <ieee802> then created
[02:40] <ieee802> the ppoe
[02:40] <macogw> im playin around...though i am shocked that it doesnt work
[02:40] <bruenig> dr_willis, what a waste that would be
[02:40] <ieee802> connection
[02:40] <macogw> pppoe?
[02:40] <ieee802> yes
[02:40] <poningru> ieee802: you cant do pppoe over wifi
[02:40] <macogw> isnt pppoe for dialup/
[02:40] <ieee802> :S
[02:40] <ieee802> my router
[02:41] <dr_willis> bruenig,  if you want a alarm,  or run  some app at 6:00 (like a movie) i dont see why it would be a waste. :)
[02:41] <blackace11> macogw: i believe your right
[02:41] <ieee802> actually the problem is this
[02:41] <Knowledge> Could someone tell me what a diff file is for? there are 2 different .diff files for PS3 ubuntu, but I don't know what they do.
[02:41] <dr_willis> of course the needs for such stuff might be a bit rare.
[02:41] <vzduch> PPPoE is for dialing up via a wired ADSL modem
[02:41] <bruenig> dr_willis, cron
[02:41] <ieee802> the connection works
[02:41] <ieee802> only for some seconds
[02:41] <Rei-chan> ieee802 Your router should be handling pppoe, or your ADSL modem.
[02:41] <poningru> blackace11: whats the error?
[02:41] <dr_willis> bruenig,  explain to my wife how to use cron then. :)
[02:41] <Rienzilla> cron would do; set display to :0, and add localhost to hosts who may display on :0
[02:41] <ieee802> yes i have a wifi router
[02:41] <poningru> !cron | dr_willis
[02:41] <ubotu> dr_willis: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[02:41] <Rei-chan> ieee802 Have you set up pppoe on your router?
[02:41] <ieee802> and i have to connect via pppoe
[02:41] <donnaclarke> Spec: i don't think i'm gonna be able to figure out how to register my nick, i am too dense; is there another way?
[02:41] <bruenig> dr_willis, pretty basic, first column is minutes, second column is hours and so forth and so on
[02:41] <dr_willis> she wanted the tv viewer program to pop up at 5:00 for her today as a reminder..
[02:41] <Max__> Hi
[02:41] <ieee802> i cannot set pppoe
[02:42] <fuzzypig> ieee802: Do you have Network-Manager installed?
[02:42] <ieee802> on router
[02:42] <blackace11> poningru: application cannot start and internal error has occured
[02:42] <ieee802> yes
[02:42] <Rei-chan> ieee802 Why not?
[02:42] <ieee802> because it works
[02:42] <poningru> blackace11: just do sudo aptitude reinstall openoffice-whatever
[02:42] <ieee802> like that :P
[02:42] <cdehaan> dr_willis: Surely there's a reminder app for GNOME/KDE/Etc. desktop environment
[02:42] <dr_willis> bruenig,  yes. i know the format for a cron job.. BUt a nice idiot-friendly gui  thats dosent even really need to be using cron. just for simple tasks.
[02:42] <ieee802> i have to create a pppoe connection
[02:42] <ieee802> also in windows
[02:42] <PMantis> Knowledge: Id describes the difference between two versions of a file, etc.. it can be used to recreate the edits to the old version.
[02:42] <dr_willis> cdehaan,  if there is ive not noticed one.. thats basicially what i was asking about.
[02:42] <macogw> ieee802: your router's a piece of poo
[02:42] <untruestory> hey all I'm having a lil problem with copying pics from cdrom to my home folder. Any help?
[02:42] <ieee802> yep
[02:42] <ieee802> :P
[02:42] <dr_willis> cdehaan,  using kde at the moment.. i will look in there also.
[02:42] <cdehaan> dr_willis: GNOME?
[02:42] <dr_willis> !find reminder
[02:42] <ubotu> Found: email-reminder, gkrellm-reminder
[02:43] <ieee802> i was trying to get ipw2200 compiled but i get errors
[02:43] <cdehaan> dr_willis: Ahh... "gremind" for GNOME
[02:43] <bruenig> dr_willis, waste of resources
[02:43] <dr_willis> !info gkrellm-reminder
[02:43] <ubotu> gkrellm-reminder: useful reminder plugin for gkrellm. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.0-2 (feisty), package size 26 kB, installed size 108 kB
[02:43] <Knowledge> PMantis: how would someone use that in osx? does that get applied to an iso?
[02:43] <dr_willis>  bruenig  yea whatever.. like comptuers in general.
[02:43] <ieee802> i have done apt-get build-essential
[02:43] <macogw> ieee802: your wireless card is fine.  on any normal router, itll work perfectly
[02:43] <macogw> ieee802: no need to compile anything
[02:43] <dr_willis> cdehaan,  hmm.. not a lot of reminder apps.
[02:43] <blackace11> on whatever i put 2.2 and it did nothing
[02:43] <macogw> ieee802: this falls under the category of a "pppoewtf"
[02:43] <cdehaan> dr_willis: Mind a /msg?
[02:44] <blackace11> said couldn't find any packages whose name or description matched
[02:44] <ieee802> it actually works on windows
[02:44] <Rei-chan> macogw, I believe that sums it up.
[02:44] <ieee802> :S
[02:44] <Rei-chan> Of course it does, Windows doesn't care.
[02:44] <phpwner> how do i use make on a tar.gz?
[02:44] <ieee802> why the hell ipw doesn't compile
[02:44] <untruestory> I can copy to /home using sudo but not /home/username it just freezes. could someone offer some advice?
[02:44] <cdehaan> phpwner: You don't.
[02:44] <macogw> phpwner: untar it first
[02:44] <untruestory> please?
[02:44] <untruestory> help anyone?
[02:44] <macogw> ieee802: probably lacking the dependencies
[02:44] <dr_willis> cdehaan,  sure..  checking the apt packages now for a remionder app. :) i
[02:44] <miniju> macogw: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/124822
[02:44] <miniju> :)
[02:44] <miniju> a+
[02:45] <Rei-chan> untruestory, There are multiple people, not all of them type fast. Give them a moment.
[02:45] <macogw> untruestory: your own username or someone else's?
[02:45] <blackace11> untruestory: sudo nautilus and see if you can do it without terminal
[02:45] <untruestory> mine
[02:45] <macogw> miniju: thats marked for edgy though...
[02:45] <dr_willis> !find remind
[02:45] <ubotu> Found: email-reminder, gkrellm-reminder, remind
[02:45] <untruestory> blackace: trying it now
[02:46] <Rei-chan> Hey, if the Debian kids aren't playing nice, how hard would it be to diagnose a Debian's xorg problem?
[02:46] <Rei-chan> I have a friend who uses Debian, and X hates him.
[02:46] <donnaclarke> oh, plllleeeeaaaaassssseee someone help me :( there must be some simple way to get connected
[02:47] <etienne_> Hello!
[02:47] <dr_willis> !find alarm
[02:47] <ubotu> Found: kalarm, bmp-alarm, xmms-alarm
[02:47] <cdehaan> Rei-chan: An Xorg channel might have some good advice, though if you asked here noone would probably know if you're using Debian or Ubuntu :)
[02:47] <donnaclarke> that doesn't require a degree in rocket science :)
[02:47] <untruestory> blackace11: no luck still freezes
[02:47] <cdehaan> Rei-chan: #xorg is probably a good place to start.
[02:47] <Rei-chan> cdehaan, I think he tried #xorg, no one cared to reply.
[02:48] <blackace11> untruestory: i'm sorry i don't know what to say, sometimes my computer boots up and doesn't show my desktop, maybe hit ctrl+alt+backspace... that usually clears it up for me
[02:48] <SlimG> Crazy tought here: Is it possible for me to mount ex.: /dev/snd (soundcard) from another computer and play music thru it as if it were a local soundcard but the sound would output from the remote computer?
[02:48] <t0nia> hihhi
[02:48] <rustalot> How do I see my legal rights re: software x
[02:48] <Rei-chan> SlimG, there's a remote sound protocol, I forget the actual protocol name, but that works over networks. :)
[02:49] <untruestory> macogw: I'm using my own username but the only way I can seem to copy is from terminal with cp and then I don't have permissions as a user to change it
[02:49] <macogw> rustalot: the help > about will probably tell you or link to it
[02:49] <miniju> macogw: i'm on edgy
[02:49] <macogw> miniju: oh! rainBOWS!
[02:49] <miniju> macogw: ... what?
[02:49] <rustalot> macogw: I mean before I install, like in synapticg or something
[02:49] <macogw> miniju: south park thing
[02:50] <untruestory> blackace11: I got it clear thanks for trying
[02:50] <miniju> macogw: really? i don't get it :)
[02:50] <switchcat> General Question: what are your MUST-have apps?  I just installed a new 7.04 and I'm wondering "what should I _really_ go and load/seek out?
[02:50] <miniju> macogw: i know quite a bit, what are you refering to? :)
[02:50] <SlimG> Rei-chan: I guess there's lot's of remote sound protocol, I'm just exploring the possibilities of linux, so in other words, my crazy tought won't work then?
[02:50] <macogw> miniju: one kid is saying he hates rainbows, always sneakin up on ya.... and then they're like dude, the things in the sky and he goes "oh! rainBOWs!" like there's a difference between RAINbow and rainBOW
[02:50] <rustalot> switchcat: KDE.
[02:50] <Rei-chan> SlimG: I've never tried it, but hell... Maybe it would. :)
[02:50] <blackace11> untruestory: congratz!!!
[02:51] <blackace11> wasn't tryn, just giving none fatal suggestions
[02:51] <blackace11> lol
[02:51] <miniju> macogw: wow, i don't recall...
[02:51] <phpwner> how do i know what daemons start when ubuntu starts?
[02:51] <untruestory> blackace11: heh, not quite I meant I got the frozen window closed. no luck on the pics
[02:51] <miniju> phpwner: ls /etc/init.d?
[02:52] <cdehaan> macogw: :/
[02:52] <rustalot> switchcat: just kidding. I would reccomend KTorrent, if you dl w/ torrents, b/c the GNOME bittorrent client is just terrible.
[02:52] <sldkfj> when upgrading the nvidia driver, what's the command in to install the nvidia restricted mod uname -r
[02:52] <macogw> rustalot: well um...the different repositories are a difference. main is all gpl'd stuff i think. commercial is as it says, universe/multiverse are other stuff...i think
[02:52] <phpwner> do all daemons start at startup?
[02:53] <Metal03> Hi everyone, my CD-RW isn't responding in Linux...  Anyone can help with that?
[02:53] <cdehaan> switchcat: There is another good bittorrent client for GNOME
[02:53] <vzduch> sldkfj: what exactly are you trying to do?
[02:53] <macogw> cdehaan: why are you making a face at me?
[02:53] <donnaclarke> Spec: are you still here?
[02:53] <Flannel> rustalot, macogw, universe is Free (but not supported by canonical, instead it's community stuff), muliverse is non-Free stuff
[02:53] <SlimG> Rei-chan: I'll give it a go, I would be surprised if it worked, but that would be totaly awsome :)
[02:53] <macogw> donnaclarke: he left
[02:53] <rustalot> macogw: I want to be able to see the licence for stuff in the multiverse
[02:54] <sldkfj> vzduch, I want to upgrade the nvidia driver to the 100. version they offer at their website
[02:54] <macogw> rustalot: you could check the project's website, other than that *shrug*
[02:54] <Rei-chan> Damn you, #Ubuntu, why are you so helpful when #Debian isn't. :)
[02:54] <cdehaan> switchcat: The name would be useful, I imagine... deluge-torrent.
[02:54] <Flannel> rustalot: It depends on the package themselves
[02:54] <macogw> sldkfj: why?
[02:54] <phpwner> what is the best bit torrent client?
[02:54] <donnaclarke> macogw: oh. i looked at the register page but i couldn't figure it out.
[02:54] <switchcat> how do you guys think these torrent progs compare to azureus? that is what I was used to running on XP.
[02:54] <cdehaan> phpwner: The one that works for you.
[02:54] <bruenig> !best  | phpwner utorrent
[02:54] <ubotu> phpwner utorrent: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[02:54] <Rei-chan> phpwner: That's like asking what is the best version of Linux.
[02:54] <macogw> sldkfj: if your card is supported by the one in ubuntu, dont upgrade. youll have to reinstall after every kernel upgrade
[02:54] <cdehaan> switchcat: Always better, because they're open source ;)
[02:54] <sldkfj> macogw, hmm, cause it's offered?
[02:54] <macogw> sldkfj: i mean youll have to reinstall the driver after every kernel upgrade
[02:54] <rustalot> Flannel: that's what I mean: how do I see licence for package x?
[02:55] <phpwner> i dont see a linux version for utrroent
[02:55] <phpwner> i like utorrent
[02:55] <macogw> sldkfj: so youll have  black screen and no gui during that time.  if your card is supported, use the ubuntu-supported driver
[02:55] <rustalot> switchcat: use KTorrent
[02:55] <hihiu> My usplash is not working. I just get a black screen.
[02:55] <phpwner> dont tell me i have to run it on top of wine
[02:55] <dr_willis> phpwner,  the utorrent guys test it with wine..  I perfer ktorrent myself.
[02:55] <hihiu> phppwner: Utorrent runs perfectly under wine.
[02:55] <macogw> sldkfj: the reason nvidia.com has them is for cards that didnt exist when the most recent ubuntu was released
[02:55] <Rei-chan> phpwner,  They don't make it for Linux. Use Azerus, its a java version of utorrent.
[02:55] <switchcat> eh, well, considering I'm not paying anybody for any of them, and I'm not hacking the programs, and I'm not concerned that they're a security risk OSS vs non OSS doesnt matter to me in this case, speed, features, and ease of use are what matter at this point.
[02:55] <Metal03> I have a problem with my CD writter, it won't respond in Ubuntu (won't even open) and it's just when Ubuntu starts to load!  Anyone can help please?
[02:55] <rolfen> help... i still cant get Frostwire to work... now i get the spash screen but then i get a blank window!
[02:56] <macogw> rolfen: are you using beryl?
[02:56] <dr_willis> rolfen,  run it from a terminal, see if any error messages show up
[02:56] <apocalypticunion> can i force ubuntu to install programs and stuff on a different hard dri9ve than the one it is installed on? and if so how?
[02:56] <sldkfj> macogw, ok, ya just shot me down :\
[02:56] <rustalot> phpwner: Don't use azureus, it's slow (written in java)
[02:56] <macogw> rolfen: if so, turn it off
[02:56] <rolfen> macogw: yes
[02:56] <macogw> rolfen: turn it off
[02:56] <donnaclarke> help.  can someone please help me get my desktop connected to the internet with feisty running live cd?
[02:56] <Flannel> rustalot: packages.ubuntu.com, find the package, then at the bottom of the page is a copyright file
[02:56] <hihiu> folfen: If your going to pirate stuff just do it with torrents. Easyer.
[02:56] <cdehaan> switchcat: Any well-made torrent client should work well, IME.
[02:56] <phpwner> yeah i know rustalot
[02:56] <macogw> rolfen: beryl + swing = doesnt work
[02:56] <dr_willis> apocalypticunion,  the package managers install stuff to the system directories where the stuff belongs.. thats about it.. :)
[02:56] <member22> sigh
[02:56] <rolfen> dr_willis: I did and it printed some huge java messages
[02:56] <member22> Does anyone here use cups
[02:56] <rolfen> macogw: thanks il try that
[02:56] <member22> as a print server here|
[02:56] <member22> for dapper?
[02:57] <apocalypticunion> dr_willis: oh well, worth a try
[02:57] <dr_willis> member22,  the default cups works for most of us. CUps is the default print server software for ubuntu.
[02:57] <Metal03> I have a problem with my CD writter, it won't respond in Ubuntu (won't even open) and it's just when Ubuntu starts to load!  Anyone can help please?
[02:57] <hihiu> rolfin if your gunna pirate use torrents.
[02:57] <member22> ok
[02:57] <macogw> rolfen: the only way to make it work is to put "AWT_TOOLKIT=MToolkit" in your .bashrc and then only run the java apps from the command line
[02:57] <member22> im getting this error message when i upgraded my cups with dappers upgrade
[02:57] <member22> cupsdAuthorize: Local authentication certificate not found
[02:57] <macogw> !repeat | Metal03
[02:57] <ubotu> Metal03: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:57] <rolfen> macogw: thanks again :D
[02:57] <member22> and my printing stopped working and i cant add printers it just gives me blank..
[02:57] <hihiu> Metal03: Try mounting it.
[02:57] <rolfen> macogw: i'd hate to disable beryl
[02:58] <Metal03> hihiu: How?
[02:58] <macogw> rolfen: then do the command line thing. if you start up the java app with metacity then switch to beryl, itll stay there and not go blank
[02:58] <member22> what does that error message mean?
[02:58] <member22> i cant find anywhere where someone solved it
[02:58] <t0nia> how did i end up in the ubuntu channel?
[02:58] <macogw> t0nia: you joined it
[02:58] <Rei-chan> t0nia, You, or your client, took you there.
[02:58] <macogw> t0nia: or you started up irc for the first time on ubuntu
[02:59] <t0nia> im usin pclinnuxos
[02:59] <hihiu> Metal03: sudo mkdir /mnt/cdrom then sudo mount /dev/(what ever your cd drive is) /mnt/cdrom
[02:59] <rolfen> macogw: yeah it was a beryl issue... thanks
[02:59] <rolfen> macogw: are they planning to fix that?
[02:59] <macogw> t0nia: oh...umm...hey guys is pclinuxos one of the based-on-ubuntu distros?
[02:59] <macogw> rolfen: beryl's gone
[02:59] <t0nia> im usin pclinnuxos
[02:59] <donnaclarke> please can anyone help me configure my feisty to connect to the internet?
[03:00] <t0nia> its debian
[03:00] <macogw> rolfen: its probably fixed in compiz fusion
[03:00] <rolfen> macogw: true :)
[03:00] <switchcat> hmmm thats odd. it seems to want to download in a very basic bittorrent program, and not send the torrer to azureus...
[03:00] <Metal03> hihiu: How can I know what my CD drive is?
[03:00] <eboyjr> How can a program be minimized and maximized from the command line?
[03:00] <Flannel> t0nia: then you must've joinedit on your own accord. macogw, no, it's Mandrivia
[03:00] <t0nia> kay
[03:00] <macogw> Metal03: probably /dev/cdrom0
[03:00] <t0nia> manriva
[03:00] <fuzzypig> no, just /dev/cdrom
[03:01] <macogw> ok fine what he said
[03:01] <macogw> :p
[03:01] <t0nia> yip im a n00b
[03:01] <Radio> any idea how to make compiz the default?
[03:01] <ieee802> i get this error while copying the ipw2200 firmware
[03:01] <suprememilo> hey is there a way that you can (alt- tab) through workspaces?
[03:01] <Metal03> hihiu: Cause it used to work, but now it's just saying /dev/hdc/ does not exist when I try to access it
[03:01] <macogw> suprememilo: ctrl alt arrows
[03:01] <ieee802> dv@my-notebook:~/porcate/ipw2200-fw-3.0$ sudo cp * /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware
[03:01] <ieee802> cp: target `/usr/lib/hotplug/firmware' is not a directory
[03:01] <clever> Metal03 its /dev/hdc not /dev/hdc/
[03:02] <ieee802> :S
[03:02] <Rei-chan> Right, can someone look this over quickly and tell me what I missed? #Debian is ignoring it because its ZOMG WALL OF TEXT.
[03:02] <Rei-chan> xorg.conf: http://rafb.net/p/diPQNN87.html  Xorg.0.log: http://rafb.net/p/6dVrYW96.html
[03:02] <ketrox> ieee802 feisty ?
[03:02] <ieee802> yes
[03:02] <clever> Metal03: its a device not a directory
[03:02] <Rei-chan> Just pretend its Feisty Fawn.
[03:02] <suprememilo> ty
[03:02] <ketrox> what kernel are you using ?
[03:02] <ketrox> uname -r
[03:02] <rolfen> macogw: you're a genius :D
[03:02] <Metal03> clever: ya, I just didn't type it good
[03:02] <Flannel> Rei-chan: You should try #debian on oftc, the official debian channel.
[03:02] <ieee802> 2.6.20-15-generic
[03:02] <clever> Metal03L ahh:)
[03:02] <t0nia> i have ubunto on a different machine
[03:02] <macogw> rolfen: i wish....my gpa wishes too
[03:03] <Rei-chan> Flannel, I have. So has the poor guy. They're simply ignoring him, he's tried for 2 days.
[03:03] <hihiu> Metal03: The other people helping you most likely know more then me, listen to them.
[03:03] <Qnix> ubuntu should move to ruby .. ^___^ i hate python
[03:03] <clever> !sparc
[03:03] <ubotu> Have a look here for Docs http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/install/sparc/ KnownIssues and TODO are on the wiki.
[03:03] <donnaclarke> macogw: can you recommend anyone to help me configure internet connection
[03:03] <gravemind> anybody use gsnes9x? I can't figure out how to save
[03:03] <macogw> donnaclarke: nope
[03:03] <kbrooks> qnix: so please try and implement it, then show us.
[03:03] <suprememilo> so has anyone ever have their HDD crash so they have to run a live cd till they figure out how to pay for a new HDD?
[03:03] <Qnix> kbrooks, im working on that ...
[03:03] <ieee802> ketrox:  2.6.20-15-generic
[03:03] <hihiu> Metal03: If you can't find your answer in here there is always ubuntuforums.org
[03:04] <Rei-chan> suprememilo, Yes.
[03:04] <ketrox> /lib/firmware/2.6.20-15-generic/
[03:04] <gravemind> suprememilo: kind of
[03:04] <fuzzypig> gravemind: try zsnes
[03:04] <eboyjr> How can a program be minimized and maximized from the command line? I want to make it so that, on Gaim, when a buddy is online, Gaim maximizes. And when that buddy goes offline, it minimizes.
[03:04] <ketrox> try  copying to this directory ieee802 /lib/firmware/2.6.20-15-generic/
[03:04] <dr_willis> gravemind,  check the snes9x docs. :) that gsnes stuff is a front end to the actual program I tend to use 'zsnes' myself.
[03:04] <Nutubuntu> donnaclarke, what's the connection question?
[03:04] <kbrooks> Qnix, oh? you intrigue me. please ppost on digg, etc. i'd love to see it.
[03:04] <`zhm> anyone free to help me with an install/partitioning question?
[03:04] <gravemind> fuzzypig: alright, I've used the command line before, I just got greedy and wanted a gui
[03:04] <Metal03> hihiu: I'm sure it's with the command you gave me...  I just need to find what is my CD drive (/dev/blahblah)
[03:05] <jeremysan> Hi all, I'm trying to set up my wireless network card but in order to do that I require NDISwrapper.  Can anybody explain to me the best/easiest way to install NDISwrapper?
[03:05] <Metal03> Isn't there a command to see all the drives?
[03:05] <Rei-chan> Right, this is irked me enough to order Sketch to get Feisty. I tire of #Debian's stupidity.
[03:05] <gravemind> fuzzypig: dr_willis: does zsnes have gui?
[03:05] <Pelo> `zhm,  yes but take the ` out of your nick, it's annoying to type on my keyboard
[03:05] <fuzzypig> oh, zsnes doesn't come with a gui on linux?
[03:05] <ti1> hi guys , i just lost all my data (i was trying to get suspend to work) any way i can get it back im on live cd
[03:05] <hihiu> Metal03: try /dev/cdrom
[03:05] <dr_willis> Metal03,  try 'sudo fdisk -l' or ls -l /dev/cdrom
[03:05] <zhm> can i msg you pelo?
[03:05] <ieee802> ketrox:  ok i'll try
[03:05] <ieee802> ty
[03:05] <dr_willis> gravemind,  yes it does
[03:05] <vzduch> !ndiswrapper | jeremysan
[03:05] <ubotu> jeremysan: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:05] <Pelo> zhm,  no state your issue here
[03:05] <gravemind> dr_willis: awesome, I'll try it then
[03:05] <ti1> my whole drive comes up as unlocated
[03:05] <Radio> any idea how to make compiz the default?
[03:05] <zhm> well, i have windows xp installed
[03:05] <donnaclarke> Nutubuntu: i can't get feisty to connect in firefox
[03:05] <fuzzypig> gravemind: zsnes has a gui
[03:06] <zhm> i need that to be installed, with windows there's 2 partitions, c: & d:
[03:06] <Metal03> ls -l /dev/cdrom
[03:06] <Pelo> zhm,  try to state your whole problem in one line
[03:06] <gravemind> fuzzypig: I'm firing up synaptic now :)
[03:06] <eboyjr> How can a program be minimized and maximized from the command line? I want to make it so that, on Gaim, when a buddy is online, Gaim maximizes. And when that buddy goes offline, it minimizes. Or else, is there a plugin for Gaim that does that?
[03:06] <ieee802> ketrox: it doesn't exist
[03:06] <ieee802> :S
[03:06] <Pelo> eboyjr,  lookup devilspie in the forum
[03:06] <Nutubuntu> donnaclarke,  is your computer on a wired network? or wireless?
[03:06] <frojnd> how can I shutdown server? and how can I shut down ubuntu in with command line?
[03:07] <zhm> i need that to be installed, with windows there's 2 partitions, c: & d:. i'm planning to install unbuntu to d: and have plenty of space to do the install, but need to create the partitions without screwing up my windows stuff...i'm using the alternate installer b/c of my vga card
[03:07] <donnaclarke> Nutubuntu: Wired.
[03:07] <dr_willis> frojnd,  sudo halt   is one way
[03:07] <hihiu> I didn't even know you could control the gui from the command line... they are two different interfaces.
[03:07] <Metal03> dr_willis : I get = no such file or directory with ls -l /dev/cdrom
[03:07] <ketrox> dunow then ieee802
[03:07] <Flannel> frojnd: `shutdown -h now`  well, shutdown time, shutdowns the command though.
[03:07] <fuzzypig> frojnd: shut down the computer with "sudo shutdown -P now"
[03:07] <dr_willis> Metal03,  try  ls -l /dev/cdr*
[03:07] <Nutubuntu> donnaclarke, can you pastebin the output of 'ifconfig eth0'  ?
[03:08] <zhm> pelo, i need some help in creating the partitions for unbuntu, etc
[03:08] <donnaclarke> Nutubuntu: my friend put his on  his laptop and it worked right out of the box
[03:08] <Pelo> zhm,  I'm not familiar with the alternate cd, but i guess you will be using parted to to clear the second partition and then just let  the installer install on the largest unallocated space
[03:08] <Metal03> dr_willis: same thing
[03:08] <dr_willis> Metal03,  odd...
[03:08] <fuzzypig> zhm: install gparted or qtparted
[03:08] <Pelo> fuzzypig,  he's running  text mode installer
[03:08] <fuzzypig> ah
[03:08] <ketrox> may be you should try to create it ieee802
[03:08] <zhm> fuzzypig, i'm using the alternate cd b/c i have an intel mobile 915
[03:08] <Flannel> Pelo, zhm, the alternate CD has a partitioner inside of it.  It's more or less just like the Desktop CD, only with curses based IO
[03:08] <donnaclarke> i don't know how.  i have the terminal open, and i typed in ifconfig and theres some output
[03:09] <Pelo> Flannel, thanks for the info what is the name ?
[03:09] <Metal03> dr_willis: oh, did I mention my CD drive isn't working!! hehehe
[03:09] <zhm> Flannel, that's fine, but i'm not trying to erase the whole d: drive...i need that
[03:09] <donnaclarke> Nutubuntu: but i don't know how to 'pastebin'
[03:09] <Flannel> Pelo: er... what name?
[03:09] <fuzzypig> zhm: oh, well, you could use the parted text interface
[03:09] <Nutubuntu> donnaclarke, if I understand properly, you're saying that the cable, connection, etc., is known to be working -- true? -- but that your network configuration may not be correct. True?
[03:09] <ieee802> ketrox:  k ty
[03:09] <Pelo> Flannel,  the name of he alternate ce partition app
[03:09] <zhm> i'm at the partition disks part of the install
[03:09] <Flannel> zhm: right, you'll be able to shrink it/whatever with the partitioner on the alt CD, just like you would with any other partitioner
[03:09] <zhm> so resize the d:
[03:09] <fuzzypig> ah, wrong again
[03:10] <dr_willis> Metal03,   time to dig into the real problem. :)
[03:10] <Metal03> dr_Willis: it said I mounted my windows HD 30 times and did a forced scan or something...  and it screwed my drive!
[03:10] <Flannel> Pelo: I'm not really sure it has one.  Whatever debian-installer uses, probably some custom wrapper around parted.
[03:10] <Pelo> zhm,  I thought you wanted to use all of d ? is there data on it ?
[03:10] <hihiu> My usplash displays no image on boot up. (usplash and the ubuntu usplash theme are installed) When I press alt f1 it says like kinit resume image not found(not the exact error) Does any one else have this problem/bug?
[03:10] <zhm> Yes, pelo...there is
[03:10] <Nutubuntu> donnaclarke, highlight the output of 'ifconfig eth0' in your terminal window, shift-ctrl-c to copy it. go to paste.ubuntu-nl.org and paste up there, then copy the URL and point me to it, here :)
[03:10] <zhm> my windows data, i have about 30gb free...i want to use 15-17gb for unbuntu
[03:10] <Metal03> dr_willis: it's still working b4 Ubuntu loads though
[03:10] <Pelo> zhm,  then yes,  rezise to the minimum you need on d
[03:11] <f4ster> hi all, i have windows vista on a sata hard drive. I installed ubuntu feisty on a second hard drive which is IDE. Whenever i boot the machine it only goes to windows, i cant get grub to come up.
[03:11] <Hellevator> Hello all. I have a question about recovering deleted data from a fat32 partition.  What is the best way to do this in Ubuntu?
[03:11] <donnaclarke> Nutubuntu: but i can't paste it to the internet, because i can't get connected to the internet
[03:11] <zhm> Pelo, you suggest creating 3 partitions here? root, home, swap
[03:11] <zhm> or 1 big one at this point in time
[03:11] <Pelo> zhm,  that is generaly what I recommend yes
[03:11] <fuzzypig> f4ster: That's because grub is also installed on the 2nd hard drive. You need to re-install it on the 1st
[03:12] <Pelo> zhm,I prefer the 3 partition setup , makes reinstalling easier
[03:12] <hihiu> zhm: I would have a windows disk ready. Whenever I change the size of my window partition my windows wont boot until I repair it using the windows cd. Once I repair it works fine so have the  the disk handy just in case.
[03:12] <dr_willis> f4ster,  or set the bios to boot the 2nd hd.
[03:12] <Nutubuntu> donnaclarke,  how are you getting to IRC? -- anyway -- are you familiar with IP addresses? can you check what address, if any, is configured on eth0?
[03:12] <f4ster> fuzzypig: thats what i was thinking also.
[03:12] <Metal03> dr_willis: Any idea of what it could be?
[03:12] <f4ster> fuzzypig: i tried setting the ide drive to master in bios but same result. how do i install grub only on the sata drive?
[03:12] <dr_willis> Metal03,  no idea. ya havent given much info to work with. :)
[03:12] <zhm> Hmm, see its sayin the min i can use for the new partition is 30.3gb and max is 69.5
[03:13] <hihiu> dr_willis: Are you always in the #gentoo and #fedora rooms? I remember your name from one of them...
[03:13] <dr_willis> Metal03,  i gotta run also. perhaps others in here can help ya find the cdrom drive thats lost.
[03:13] <fuzzypig> f4ster: hmm, to install grub you normally have to boot to linux
[03:13] <donnaclarke> Nutubuntu: in the output it says inet addr: 169.254.7.222
[03:13] <Pelo> zhm,  what ?   how big is your d; partition ? when you look at it from windows ?
[03:13] <dr_willis> hihiu,  aint used Gentoo in AGES.... cant rember ever being in #fedora
[03:13] <aaanone> when $PATH is checked does it check subdirectories of that directories listed?
[03:13] <f4ster> ok i just booted off the cd now as a matter of fact
[03:13] <Metal03> dr_willis: I just don't know what info to give you!  ok, well thanks anyways!
[03:13] <gireesh> f4ster: you have to get to a grub prompt
[03:13] <phpwner> how do i mount an ntfs partition? i don't have any /dev/hda#
[03:13] <zhm> its about 65gb pelo
[03:13] <fuzzypig> :O
[03:13] <dr_willis> aaanone,  its not 'recursive' into the subdirs.
[03:13] <donnaclarke> is that what your looking for?
[03:13] <f4ster> fuzzypig: ok im in ubuntu now
[03:13] <Pelo> zhm,  how much data doyou hve on it ?
[03:13] <fuzzypig> NOT the grub prompt
[03:13] <fuzzypig> ok
[03:13] <dr_willis> aaanone,  try echo  $PATH to see exactly where it looks.
[03:14] <zhm> about 30ish
[03:14] <oslo> hi do you know how to use cross-compiling ? arm-linux ???
[03:14] <donnaclarke> Nutubuntu: no, i am on a laptop beside the desktop that has ubuntu on it.
[03:14] <Nutubuntu> donnaclarke,  I may be too tired to make any sense. Sorry, I understand that you can't get to the Internet on that computer.
[03:14] <f4ster> fuzzypig: ok im in grub console - i will look at the help and assume the install is in here somewhere - thanks for your help!
[03:14] <zhm> should i do manual or guided? i don't want it to use all the free space...only 17gb
[03:14] <hihiu> dr_willis: oh...maybe there are two dr_willis's :).
[03:14] <fuzzypig> f4ster: the grub console is hard to use
[03:15] <Metal03> I've lost my CD drive!  Can't make it work...  I think it's my 2nd HD that took over, can anyone help?
[03:15] <Nutubuntu> donnaclarke, it sounds as if the desktop computer isn't getting an address via dhcp. Is that how you would normally expect it to get an address?
[03:15] <donnaclarke> Nutubuntu: so isn't there some way to go in to the 'control panel'?
[03:15] <vzduch> zhm: if you know what you're doing use manual, it's more accurate, I guess
[03:15] <troxor> Metal03: try `dmesg | egrep "^hd"`
[03:15] <donnaclarke> Nutubuntu: i guess ...
[03:15] <havanger> need help with setting up samba.... ubuntu wont allow me to login as root at the login screen and root is the owner of the samaba folder/files so i can't manually exit the smb.conf..... help please
[03:15] <fuzzypig> f4ster: In fact, nearly impossible to use, as you have to know the name of your kernel and initrd file beforehand
[03:15] <Nutubuntu> donnaclarke, yes. System > Administration > Network
[03:16] <zhm> the point is, i don't know =/
[03:16] <troxor> Metal03: provided they are IDE drives
[03:16] <Pelo> zhm,  you'll need about 5-10 gig for /  and 2xRAM for your swap,   the rest for /home,  you'll need ot figure out how much you want ,   that 30.3gb to 69.5gb is the new size of your d; partition, not the new partition space you will get for ubuntu,   so I guess give it 35 gig for d; and use the rest for ubuntu
[03:16] <Metal03> troxor yes they are
[03:16] <Flannel> havanger: use sudo.  Login with your usual user (the one that can install stuff) and then `gksu gedit /path/to/file`
[03:16] <f4ster> fuzzypig: well since i booted off the cd it mapped my already installed partitions of which ive looked at the grub conf,
[03:16] <ti1> can any one please help me use cfdisk
[03:16] <ti1>  to get my partitions back i have look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=343691, but its not very clear
[03:16] <ti1> pleaseeeeeeeee
[03:17] <havanger> flannel: thanks
[03:17] <f4ster> fuzzypig: would it just be easier to reinstall and tell the install to set it up on the other drive?
[03:17] <troxor> Metal03: what happened in you situation?
[03:17] <fuzzypig> f4ster: no
[03:17] <troxor> Metal03: your*
[03:17] <Pelo> ti1,  it's not that we don'T want to help , we may not be able to ,  restate your problem periodicaly and hope someone can help
[03:17] <fuzzypig> f4ster: It's easy to grub-install from linux
[03:18] <zhm> i see Pelo, that was a better description
[03:18] <fuzzypig> f4ster: are you using ubuntu feisty?
[03:18] <zhm> its resizing no
[03:18] <hihiu> omg the os-x icon theme is 100 mbs
[03:18] <zhm> mow
[03:18] <zombiepig> wondering if someone can help me with a funny issue with firefox... on some sites i keep getting these weird characters that look like numbers in a little box... there doesn't seem to be much pattern to it. has anyone else seen this?
[03:18] <Nutubuntu> donnaclarke, when you have opened up the 'Network Settings' dialog, you should see four tabs, the first is 'Connections' -- in that tab, highlight 'Wired connection' and click the 'Properties' button.
[03:18] <boyam> donnaclark, Nutbuntu: been following you thread....donnaclarks problem is that modem only supports one interface, either usb or ehternet, but not both.  You need a router to accomplish sharing the internet connection....
[03:18] <Metal03> troxor: My CD drive used to work, but when I booted earlier, it said that I mount 30 times my "windows HD" and I needed to fdisk or something (some kind of scan) and I think it messed up my drives and the way they were mounted!
[03:19] <Pelo> zhm,  we try but sometimes we need to figure out what your actual problem is before we can give you a proper reply
[03:19] <ti1> Pelo: :o ok.
[03:19] <f4ster> fuzzypig: yes im on feisty
[03:19] <Rei-chan> zombiepig, those are characters that you don't have the ability to view, no font associated with that character.
[03:19] <donnaclarke> Nutubuntu: k, trying to get it open
[03:19] <fazed> hey guys
[03:19] <ti1> so do i chose primary or logical partition
[03:19] <Rei-chan> zombiepig, i.e. foreign languages.
[03:19] <jeremysan> Hi all.  I accidentally deleted my network icon in the right corner of my top bar.  Can anybody tell me how I can return that icon/tool?  I right click on the panel and go "Add to panel..." and select the "Network Monitor" one, but it is not the same one.  How can I return it to its default network icon?
[03:19] <Nutubuntu> boyam - gotcha - I came in late - donnaclarke are you trying to share a single internet connection between the desktop and the laptop ?
[03:20] <fuzzypig> f4ster: Just run "sudo grub-install hd0"
[03:20] <zombiepig> rei-chan... so it's normal? i think sometimes it does them for simple things like quotation marks though?
[03:20] <Pelo> ti1,  I donT' think you should be repartitionning if you haven'T managed to recover your data yes
[03:20] <donnaclarke> Nutubuntu: yes
[03:20] <troxor> Metal03: fsck shouldn't mess up your partitions like that.. can you get to a working system on that machine, or where does it get stuck at?
[03:20] <f4ster> fuzzypig: ok but i need it to install on my sata drive where vista is installed. is that hd0?
[03:20] <Rei-chan> zombiepig, They're probably not quotation marks, they're the 'other' quote marks. Its normal, in that you don't have the proper font files to view the data.
[03:20] <vzduch> jeremysan: Network Manager perhaps?
[03:20] <f4ster> fuzzypig: nevermind it is
[03:20] <fuzzypig> f4ster: Is it your first hard drive in the computer?
[03:20] <fuzzypig> ok
[03:21] <troxor> jeremysan: nm-applet
[03:21] <zombiepig> rei-chan.... ok, cheers. thanks for the answer :)
[03:21] <jeremysan> troxor:  what does "nm-applet" mean
[03:21] <fazed> i am having some trouble getting java to work in firefox... or at all as far as i can tell
[03:21] <donnaclarke> Nutubuntu: i have network settings open; under 'connections' is blank
[03:21] <troxor> jeremysan: that's the command that runs the network manager applet
[03:21] <fazed> is there something simple that i am not doing?
[03:21] <ti1> Pelo thats what the ubuntu forum says
[03:21] <Metal03> troxor: I'm on that exact machine, and all my drives are working except for the CD!
[03:21] <fuzzypig> fazed: yes
[03:22] <f4ster> fuzzypig: it tells me it cant find /boot on hd0
[03:22] <ti1> do you know any good tools i can use
[03:22] <Pelo> ti1, arighty then
[03:22] <jeremysan> troxor:  But I type it into my terminal and nothing happens...
[03:22] <boyam> donnaclarke: I was going to chime in when Spec was helping you but my 2 year old distracted me....you need to add a router to your setup in order to share your internet connection....You're not going to be able to use your modem alone to connect both the laptop and the desktop...
[03:22] <kikkomanchow> whats the difference between "Linux Virtual Private Servers" and just plain ole "Hosting"
[03:22] <ti1> look here please http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=343691
[03:22] <fuzzypig> f4ster: grub-install tells you that?
[03:22] <Pelo> ti1,  not realy, this is not something I've had to do,  you might try asking for help in ##linux
[03:22] <f4ster> fuzzypig: yes
[03:22] <troxor> jeremysan: did you perhaps remove the 'notification area' panel applet?
[03:22] <fazed> i have java runtime environment installed, actually i have 5.0 and 6.0 installed
[03:23] <f4ster> fuzzypig: iy says 'not found or not a block device'
[03:23] <Nutubuntu> :/   donnaclarke - it sounds to me as though you'll need to run a router from your internet connection (modem, cable modem, dsl ... whatever it is) and connect both boxes to the router. You can build one, an old Pentium or even a 486 will do, or buy one; they're inexpensive. But it sounds as if boyan's quite right.
[03:23] <f4ster> fuzzypig: would it be /dev/sda?
[03:23] <Metal03> troxor: When I try to click on my CD it says "unable to mount selected volume" and in details it says " special device /dev/hdc/ does not exist"
[03:23] <jeremysan> troxor:  I removed an icon which told me when my ethernet was connected and not-connected.  This is very important to me because I am trying to test different network settings and the notification helps me verify if what I am doing works or not...
[03:23] <Pelo> ti1,  I'm not compentent enough to help you with this,  I was just trying to keep you from doing something I thought was irriversible,  don'T mind me,   go and ask in ##linux  I think they will be able to help
[03:23] <fuzzypig> fazed: install sun-java6-plugin
[03:24] <troxor> Metal03: what happens when you type in "dmesg | egrep 'hdc' " in a terminal?
[03:24] <dibblego> trying to configure X with a ATI X1400, I disable the Composite extension so that my mouse cursor is not a square on my second display; then I turn on Xinerama and the mouse cursor is back to a square - what can I do to make it sensible?
[03:24] <fuzzypig> f4ster: yes, it should be /dev/sda
[03:24] <ti1> Pelo: thanks
[03:24] <fazed> can i use the regular app get or whatever this is installed on fiesty fawn?
[03:24] <jeremysan> troxor:  it also had a list of all of the available (wireless) networks
[03:24] <Metal03> troxor: [17179576.528000]      ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA
[03:25] <fuzzypig> fazed: Install it in the synaptic package manager, and it should work with firefox.
[03:25] <Pelo> fazed, you might have to install the java pluggins,  look in synaptic,  that might help
[03:25] <troxor> jeremysan: right, there's a panel applet called "notification area", which is similar to the windows systray, and in that, the "nm-applet" puts the icon you mention
[03:25] <emet> is it true that Duke Nukem Forever will run on Linux exclusively?
[03:25] <f4ster> fuzzypig: im getting the same error back im going to reinstall.
[03:25] <fazed> roger that guys, working on it now
[03:25] <fazed> thanks for the help
[03:25] <fuzzypig> ok
[03:25] <jeremysan> troxor: thank you very much
[03:25] <havanger> how do i create a root directory as su?
[03:25] <troxor> jeremysan: either nm-applet died, network manager is not running, or the notification area applet is not on your panel
[03:25] <troxor> jeremysan: np
[03:25] <Rei-chan> emet: When it comes out, there won't be a linux. It'll be something new.
[03:25] <f4ster> fuzzypig: thanks for the help dude. i have somethign screwy here ;)
[03:26] <troxor> Metal03: what does it give if you do `ls -l /dev/hd* `
[03:26] <donnaclarke> boyam: and Nutubuntu: can i set it up so that i can alternately use the laptop and then the desktop?  could you tell me how to set the network settings up for that?, or are you saying that my laptop could serve as a router?
[03:26] <Surb> what's the keyboard shortcut to get to the application launcher?
[03:27] <troxor> Surb: alt+f2 ?
[03:27] <Surb> trogdor, that's it. thanks :)
[03:27] <havanger> can someone advise how to crerate a root directory as sudo please
[03:28] <fuzzypig> Surb: He's not trogdor. Do you watch a lot of SB emails?
[03:28] <Pelo> havanger,  sudo mkdir /path/...
[03:28] <havanger> pelo: thank you
[03:28] <tetrimino> omg im bored.. any suggestions to how ubuntu shall entertain me?
[03:28] <Surb> fuzzypig, i know. my tab-complete didn't work as planned.
[03:28] <Pelo> tetrimino,   atl-f2  free the fish
[03:28] <Metal03> troxor: trying to put it on pastebin...  but pastebin is giving me a hard time
[03:28] <jrattner> Is there a package for the beryl-compiz composite ?
[03:29] <Pelo> jrattner, ask in #beryl
[03:29] <vzduch> or in #ubuntu-effects
[03:29] <fuzzypig> tetrimino: install rrootage, great game
[03:29] <Pelo> tetrimino, or  alt-f2 gegls from outer space
[03:30] <havanger> to change permissions with sudo would i 'sudo chmod 777 /path'?
[03:30] <donnaclarke> Nutubuntu: can i set up the network settings while i have you on the line, and then disconnect the laptop and connect the desktop?  i'm not gnna be able to get a routter before next payday
[03:30] <troxor> Metal03: try rafb.net
[03:30] <Pelo> havanger,  755 is more standard
[03:30] <havanger> pelo, is that the correct syntax?
[03:30] <nich0s> What is the command to remove a directory that refuses to be removed?
[03:31] <nomasteryoda> havanger, if you want to do it recursively or follow the folders down then -R
[03:31] <Pelo> sudo chmod 755 /path/dir     no / at the end
[03:31] <MajorPayne> nich0s: rm -rf directory.
[03:31] <Metal03> troxor: http://rafb.net/p/3gopOi11.html
[03:31] <EADG> nich0s: sudo rm -rf dir
[03:31] <fuzzypig> nich0s: use sudo
[03:31] <Pelo> havanger, sudo chmod 755 /path/dir     no / at the end
[03:31] <cloghost> i need help with the terminal
[03:31] <nich0s> MajorPayne: You're awesome.
[03:31] <nich0s> EADG: Thank-sor.
[03:31] <newtron> cloghost, shoot
[03:31] <Pelo> cloghost,  we need specifics
[03:31] <havanger> pelo, thanks again =)
[03:31] <nich0s> fuzzypig: Your name makes me smile and I thank you for your wisdom.
[03:32] <troxor> Metal03: how many IDE hard drives do you have?
[03:32] <cloghost> well, when i try to cd to the desktop, it says Desktop doesent exsit.
[03:32] <MFen> anyone know how you find out the progress of your sbackup backup?
[03:32] <MajorPayne> Should only need to use sudo if you don't own the directory and everything in it.
[03:32] <Metal03> troxor: I have 2 hard drives
[03:32] <troxor> Metal03: that shows that you have 2 detected, hda and hdb
[03:32] <donnaclarke> Nutubuntu: can i set up the network settings while i have you on the line, and then disconnect the laptop and connect the desktop?  i'm not gnna be able to get a routter before next payday
[03:32] <troxor> Metal03: weird.. no cdrom! ;)
[03:32] <nomasteryoda> cloghost, cd ~/Desktop ?
[03:32] <MFen> it's most perplexing
[03:32] <cloghost> thx nom
[03:33] <nomasteryoda> cloghost, np
[03:33] <Metal03> troxor: It is weird...  kind off the reason I'm here asking for your sweet help!!  hehehe
[03:33] <troxor> Metal03: is it detected in bios?
[03:33] <fuzzypig> cloghost: just so you know, you can use ~ as a shortcut to your home directory.
[03:33] <novato_br> do you know about software to get download full site to hard disk ?
[03:33] <nomasteryoda> fuzzypig, thanks
[03:33] <fuzzypig> novato_br: use httrack
[03:34] <Pelo> novato_br,  try doing a keyword search in synaptic , see what turns up
[03:34] <Metal03> I can quit and go check that out!  want me to?  but I think it is cause just before Ubuntu starts, it's responding (opening - closing)
[03:34] <nomasteryoda> sometimes you get so busy reading and answering you forget the subtleties of answering
[03:34] <novato_br> Fuzz_, , i cant download asp sites with httrack
[03:34] <novato_br> Pelo, it doesnt work
[03:34] <troxor> Metal03: that would help, make sure you can still boot from it to be sure it isn't the drive itself
[03:34] <jeremysan> A few minutes ago I had trouble with my nm-applet.  I have the "notification area" applet on my panel but the nm-applet does not show up unless I open a terminal and type "nm-applet."  The icon/applet then shows up in the notification area, but when I close my terminal the icon/applet disappears.  How can i fix this?
[03:35] <nomasteryoda> novato_br, you can install IE if you need
[03:35] <Metal03> troxor: I'll check that out...  brb
[03:35] <troxor> jeremysan: nm-applet should startup at login
[03:35] <MFen> i can tell sbackup is running.. it's in my base eating all my cpuz... and i can even see that it's using disk space on the target partition.  but it isn't creating any files there, and there doesn't seem to be a way to just ask it for the status
[03:35] <troxor> jeremysan: so if all else fails, just re-login and it should all be good
[03:35] <MFen> how do i even know if it's done?
[03:35] <jeremysan> troxor:  ok thanks, i will try restarting.
[03:35] <Pelo> jeremysan,  you can start it with  alt_f2
[03:35] <MFen> what if i turn off my computer.. will it be interrupted?
[03:35] <MFen> etc.
[03:35] <novato_br> dudes, i need to download full site in asp
[03:35] <MFen> i think simple backup might be a little too skimple
[03:35] <novato_br> and it's hard, because there are a lot links
[03:36] <RoC_MasterMind> novato_br, contact the webmaster?
[03:36] <RoC_MasterMind> novato_br, use wget --mirror
[03:36] <g0dd3ss> hi I hae amsn on ubuntu 7.04 and it usually works fine but today when I try to start it, it says "Starting aMSN" but then disappears does anyon know how i could try to fix this?
[03:36] <novato_br> RoC_MasterMind, could I use wget --mirror <address_of_site> ?
[03:37] <donnaclarke> boyam: if i disconnect the laptop, will the desktop receive the signal from the modem?
[03:37] <the_consul> I'm having a heck of a time getting cron to display a gui app...I've tried dozens of variations trying to set the DISPLAY variable and I still get nothing...What does the value 0 represent exactly?
[03:37] <newtron> g0dd3ss, try running it from a terminal, see what the error is, if any
[03:37] <Pelo> g0dd3ss,  there is an #amsn channel you can try asking there
[03:37] <RoC_MasterMind> novato_br, wget --mirror --convert-links address
[03:37] <g0dd3ss> yes i posted it in #amsn also
[03:37] <g0dd3ss> ok newtron
[03:38] <linos> does anyone know if there is a free software development programming tool like labview for ubuntu.
[03:38] <Pelo> the_consul, I use this line it might help 0 *     * * *   export DISPLAY=:0 && gdesklets restart
[03:38] <novato_br> and how many deep of  links, RoC_MasterMind ?
[03:38] <boyam> donnaclarke: you may have to power down the modem for a few minutes, then connect the desktop..then powerup the modem, thenpower up the desktop.....
[03:38] <newtron> A simple thing I would try right off the bat, would be to uninstall, and reinstall it
[03:38] <havanger> how do i start/stop/restart a service that isn't located in 'System-Administration-Servies'?
[03:38] <g0dd3ss> it says this in terminal http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29175/
[03:38] <Pelo> havanger,  killall name
[03:38] <Drk_Guy> Hy guys!
[03:39] <the_consul> Pelo: I tried that exactly, except for the restart portiong...I just tried to open an app new, and I get nothing...
[03:39] <Drk_Guy> Which is the Ubuntu executable format
[03:39] <Pelo> the_consul,  try with start maybe , restart is just for my own setup
[03:39] <RoC_MasterMind> Drk_Guy, ELF.
[03:39] <Pelo> the_consul,  "how" are you editing cron ?
[03:39] <newtron> g0dd3ss, sudo apt-get remove amsn && sudo apt-get install msn
[03:40] <sdquinn> Hey all. I've got a slight predicament.
[03:40] <Drk_Guy> Thank you
[03:40] <RoC_MasterMind> Drk_Guy, all Linuxes use ELF.
[03:40] <havanger> pelo, will the command 'killall name' restart the service, or just shut it down?
[03:40] <Drk_Guy> I'll try with that
[03:40] <g0dd3ss> alright then newtron thnx
[03:40] <newtron> That would be my first try
[03:40] <Frogzoo> Pelo: killall? urr nasty
[03:40] <RoC_MasterMind> Drk_Guy, but that is probably useless information.
[03:40] <Drk_Guy> RoC, you mean, the GNU/Linuxes, or Linux
[03:40] <Frogzoo> havanger: /etc/init.d/service restart
[03:40] <donnaclarke> boyam: so, you are saying that i have to power down the desktop also?
[03:40] <Pelo> havanger,  depends on the service,   some , like gnome panel are set to restart  some aren'T
[03:40] <RoC_MasterMind> Drk_Guy, all Linux based distributions.
[03:40] <the_consul> Pelo: Tried adding restart and still nothing...sudo crontab -e....
[03:40] <sdquinn> I've been using Ubuntu on my desktop for the past week or so -- when my MacBook was in for service. I love Ubuntu but I can never see me installing it on my laptop over Mac OS X. But I want to stay involved. I don't want to dual boot, so do you think I should just leave it on my desktop and mess around with it on here?
[03:40] <linos> does anyone know if there is a free software development programming tool like labview for ubuntu.
[03:41] <havanger> pelo and frogzoo, thank you
[03:41] <Drk_Guy> Thank you
[03:41] <RoC_MasterMind> linos, there are plenty of IDE's.
[03:41] <numus> if i have something in my applications pulldown menu i dont want how do i get rid of it?
[03:41] <newtron> sdquinn, sure, why not :)
[03:41] <Pelo> the_consul,  is this an app that needs to run as root ?    like an antivirus ?  cause if not just do crontab -e to run it for the user
[03:41] <Pelo> the_consul,  can I see the line ?
[03:41] <boyam> donnaclarke:yes
[03:41] <donnaclarke> boyam: if i do that, will ubuntu automatically configure to the connection
[03:42] <sdquinn> newtron, this laptop was the ruin of my Linux last time. I was running it on a desktop for a while and was quite involved with ubuntu-doc, so why not?
[03:42] <linos> RoC_MasterMind: can U give me a name so I can venture off to seek them on the net.  thanks in advance
[03:42] <RoC_MasterMind> I think you are looking for an IDE....That is the keyword I think you are lookign for.
[03:42] <boyam> donnaclarke: if ubuntu is setup for  dhcp..yes, it sould grab an ip address from your modem automagically :)
[03:42] <numus> anyone?
[03:43] <donnaclarke> boyam: i love automagic
[03:43] <Pelo> numus,   menu > system > prefs > main menu
[03:43] <the_consul> Pelo...41 * * * * (/bin/date) >> /home/user/.cronlog works fine for instance, but 41 * * * * export DISPLAY=:0 && /usr/bin/deluge start doesn't work...I've tried other gui apps as well without success
[03:43] <numus> pelo thank you
[03:43] <donnaclarke> boyam: will give it a try; for now, good nite and thank you... wish me luck.
[03:43] <Frogzoo> numus: sys -> prefs -> main menu
[03:44] <boyam> donnaclarke:my fingers are crossed
[03:44] <Pelo> the_consul, I take it you don'T want deluge to run all the time ?
[03:44] <phpwner> !ntfs
[03:44] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:44] <phpwner> !fuse
[03:44] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[03:44] <g0dd3ss> gahhhh
[03:44] <phpwner> !ntfs-3g
[03:44] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[03:44] <the_consul> Pelo: nope, I'm on satellite connection and only have unlimited bandwidth for 3 hours late at night
[03:45] <g0dd3ss> wth
[03:45] <IndyGunFreak> g0dd3ss: whats the problem?
[03:45] <Pelo> the_consul, can you run  deluge  regularly ? I just mean to start it , because I haven'T been able to start it on my computer
[03:45] <Pelo> the_consul,  you might consider using  utorrent on wine  it has a schedular in it
[03:46] <the_consul> Pelo: yeah, I downloaded v0.5.2 earlier today and it works fine
[03:46] <d4rkmonkey> How do I uninstall programs which I've installed from a .tar?
[03:46] <Pelo> the_consul, ok so first donT' run it as  root,   just use crontab -e not sudo crontab
[03:46] <g0dd3ss> IndyGunFreak, amsn has worked fine for days, now when i try to start it it doesnt work. have tried reinstalling, staring it in terminal gives this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29175/
[03:46] <DarkPontiac> hello?
[03:46] <wundaboy> hi, my computer crashed and azureus was open, and now when i try and start azureus it loads up and i see the torrents that were there and then it crashes
[03:47] <d4rkmonkey> How do I uninstall programs which I've installed from a .tar?
[03:47] <IndyGunFreak> g0dd3ss: wierd..
[03:47] <wundaboy> and ~/.azureus/logs/debug_1.log gets nothing new...
[03:47] <the_consul> Pelo:v0.5.2 of deluge has a scheduler, but even when my torrents are "paused" somethign is still getting uploaded...its at a very slow rate, but I'm limited to 200mb total per day, if I go over I'm throttled down to worse than dial up for 24 hours
[03:47] <troxor> d4rkmonkey: find each file individually and remove it- or make uninstall
[03:47] <d4rkmonkey> troxor, what folder do I need to be in to do make uninstall?
[03:47] <the_consul> Pelo: I'll give it a try without using root...
[03:47] <Pelo> 41 *     * * *   export DISPLAY=:0 && delugegdesklets restart
[03:48] <troxor> d4rkmonkey: the same one that you were in when you ran make install
[03:48] <Pelo> the_consul,  try this line in  crontab -e   41 *     * * *   export DISPLAY=:0 && deluge
[03:48] <d4rkmonkey> ok
[03:48] <DarkPontiac> Umm.. i dunno how to get support here so i guess i'll stat my problem. When ubuntu loads, the cpu fan stops spinning and after about 15 min my computer will overheat... how can i fix this please?
[03:48] <dr_willis> DarkPontiac,  a laptop?
[03:48] <Naik0> Hello, i need some help with my wu-ftp. How do i add account so i can out files to my /var/www/ on my server?
[03:48] <DarkPontiac> No. Desktop. Celeron
[03:48] <Pelo> the_consul,  the small amount of bandwidh is probably  dht and scrapping,  you might want to turn those off
[03:48] <troxor> d4rkmonkey: usually it's best to use checkinstall instead of make install ;)
[03:49] <troxor> d4rkmonkey: and even better still to find a package.. heh
[03:49] <dr_willis> DarkPontiac,  how old a box? thats odd that the cpu can could even get throttled down that much.
[03:49] <tapas> DarkPontiac: try with noacpi kernel argument maybe
[03:49] <newtron> g0dd3ss, still didn't work?
[03:49] <dr_willis> cpu fan that is.. :)
[03:49] <DarkPontiac> i have tried. no go
[03:49] <d4rkmonkey> troxor, what does checkinstall do that make install doesn't?
[03:49] <g0dd3ss> newtron, no :(
[03:49] <newtron> g0dd3ss, ok try deleting ~/.amsn
[03:49] <DarkPontiac> i have tried acpi=off which works. but then nothing will move on the desktop unless i hold shift or something which is very odd
[03:49] <newtron> assuming there is such a dir
[03:50] <IndyGunFreak> newtron: i was just tryign to find it, i can't fin dit.. not sure where its hidden
[03:50] <troxor> d4rkmonkey: http://asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/index.php
[03:50] <d4rkmonkey> thanks troxor
[03:50] <IndyGunFreak> g0dd3ss: why aren't you just using Pidgin/Kopete?..
[03:50] <troxor> d4np
[03:50] <the_consul> Pelo: Man, I'm an idiot...I've been at this for hours...the non-sudo crontab did the trick...thanks a bunch for the help
[03:50] <troxor> d4rkmonkey: np ;)
[03:50] <Pelo> the_consul, you're welcome , I take visa
[03:51] <newtron> holy crap
[03:51] <g0dd3ss> IndyGunFreak, coz i like(D) amsn 8-] 
[03:51] <IndyGunFreak> g0dd3ss: oh ok.
[03:51] <newtron> amsn has some serious deps
[03:51] <Pelo> the_consul, fyi  only use sudo crontab  for jobs that require root access
[03:51] <newtron> 41MB of crap...
[03:51] <the_consul> Pelo: Lesson learned
[03:51] <havanger> what is the command to show all runing services?
[03:52] <newtron> IndyGunFreak, I just grab the deb from www.getdeb.net
[03:52] <IndyGunFreak> newtron: is the current version there?
[03:52] <newtron> yes
[03:52] <newtron> 2.0.2
[03:52] <Pelo> havanger, top ?
[03:52] <DarkPontiac> brb i'll try the noacpi again
[03:52] <IndyGunFreak> newtron: thans, didn't know about that site.
[03:52] <newtron> Ya, it's kinda neat
[03:52] <Zac1> havanger: all i know is System > Administration > System Monitor
[03:53] <d4rkmonkey> troxor, just making sure I understood the link that you sent me, does that mean with checkinstall you can uninstall from synaptic instead of having to manually uninstall?
[03:53] <newtron> It could use some more software
[03:53] <newtron> Still a bit small
[03:53] <zhm> pelo, you still here buddy?
[03:54] <havanger> hmm, didn't find the service i was looking for, anyone know what service name samba runs as?
[03:54] <zhm> lol, anoter question
[03:54] <Pelo> havanger,  smb I think
[03:54] <troxor> d4rkmonkey: in theory ;)
[03:54] <zhm> i got 34.5gb of free space after the resizing
[03:54] <havanger> hmm, maybe it isn't running
[03:54] <d4rkmonkey> ok, thanks troxor
[03:55] <zhm> create the 3 partitions now doing the same steps?
[03:55] <younghacker> is anybody in here familiar with metasploit framework 3.0 ?
[03:55] <Pelo> zhm,  one line for the whole thing please it makes it easier to follow
[03:55] <IndyGunFreak> newtron: you'd think they'd just put the whole pidgin package together in one deb(data and the program)
[03:55] <geoaxis> hello peeople
[03:55] <newtron> ya, there are a lot of apps like that
[03:55] <Pelo> zhm,  more or less,   go back in the same partitionning app,  and create new
[03:55] <newtron> especially in the debian world
[03:55] <geoaxis> i tried a fail attemp to make a local repostitr of a folder
[03:55] <geoaxis> over svn
[03:55] <pr4bh> hi guys, i want windows bootloader to be able to boot up ubuntu (which at present is missing from the bootloader list), what is the string that i need to put in the bootloader setting for that?
[03:55] <geoaxis> now it has an arrow icon on it
[03:55] <geoaxis> how do i make it go away?
[03:56] <IndyGunFreak> newtron: yeah, i know.. but if you're gonna host the .deb, host a complete package in 1 deb.
[03:56] <Zac1> ! bootloader
[03:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootloader - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:56] <pukeko> iptables .. what ports does MSN Messenger use, i block outgoing - but may need to alow MSN .
[03:56] <Pelo> geoaxis,  edit  /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:56] <Pelo> maybe
[03:56] <younghacker> is there a way to install sql in ubunut?
[03:56] <Pelo> !grub | Zac1
[03:56] <ubotu> Zac1: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:56] <newtron> IndyGunFreak, im pretty sure that site is all user contrib
[03:56] <geoaxis> Pelo,  svn
[03:56] <IndyGunFreak> newtron: probably
[03:56] <zhm> hmm, the new partitions should be logical correct?
[03:56] <pr4bh> cheers mate
[03:57] <Pelo> geoaxis no idea maybe osmeone else knows
[03:57] <newtron> I haven't registered myself yet...
[03:57] <zhm> and at the beginning/end of the avail space?
[03:57] <Pelo> zhm,  you can ,  but I think you can make at least one that is primary  if you do  do it for /
[03:57] <Jack_Sparrow> geoaxis: You can also just put those files in var/cache/apt/archives... synaptic looks there first before the repos
[03:57] <younghacker> is anyone in here familiar with metasploit framework 3.0?
[03:57] <troxor> GeorgeA: try just removing that dir and svn up
[03:58] <Pelo> zhm,  and I said  CAN , not HAVE to
[03:58] <troxor> GeorgeA: sorry,
[03:58] <newtron> g0dd3ss, did you try my suggestion?
[03:58] <newtron> I have a feeling that may work....
[03:58] <jrsims> when's the next ubuntu release? and what are the awesome points about it?
[03:58] <newtron> october
[03:58] <Jack_Sparrow> jrsims: ask in #Ubuntu+1
[03:58] <SR71-Blackbird> how do i use ssh in local subnet... i mean i'm on a comp configured as router and has 2 ethernets... one's connected to net... other to lan.. i can't ssh to lan
[03:59] <SR71-Blackbird> ???
[03:59] <newtron> Not sure of the awesome points, I really don't follow ubuntu all that closely
[03:59] <isaacs> sr71: are you conneting to the lan from the internet?
[03:59] <Pelo> jrsims,  the only things you need to know it that is will be ubuntu and it will be new ,  that should be awesome enough for anyone
[03:59] <hihiu> What is the syntax for chmod to add read and write to all users?
[03:59] <g0dd3ss> newton, what do u mean, to delete ~/.amsn?
[03:59] <troxor> hihiu: chmod a+rw <thing>
[03:59] <SR71-Blackbird> isaacs, no.. i'm using the router computer...
[04:00] <hihiu> troxor: Thanks.
[04:00] <hihiu> I accidently ran wget as root >.>;
[04:00] <troxor> hihiu: np
[04:00] <DarkPontiac> ok noacpi didn't work. when booted the fan was still off
[04:00] <zhm> hmm
[04:00] <Pelo> hihiu,  755 will had read write but not execute to all user and execute for  root
[04:00] <IndyGunFreak> g0dd3ss: delete the /.amsn folder, and reinstall .amsn
[04:00] <newtron> g0dd3ss, type this in a terminal 'rm -rf ~/.amsn'
[04:00] <SR71-Blackbird> isaacs, it just seems to take the default eth
[04:00] <newtron> then try running amsn
[04:00] <Pelo> hihiu,  alternately,   man chmod
[04:00] <mwe> hihiu: chmod 666 or 777 or if you want it executable
[04:00] <troxor> g0dd3ss: or mv it to amsn.old, just in case
[04:00] <jrsims> shoot, have you guys tried Tilda yet? It lets you get a drop down terminal in your x session, kinda like in Quake when you hit the tilda key ~. It's in the repos.
[04:01] <g0dd3ss> ok i did that and it still says the same thing when i try to start it
[04:01] <hihiu> I looked in the man pages first, but it was to long and I didn't feel like skimming it for the syntax
[04:01] <newtron> hmm
[04:01] <zhm> why the hell is there 17.5gb usable?
[04:01] <newtron> Did you recently install anything?
[04:01] <Pelo> hihiu,  ...
[04:01] <weas3l> anyone know 'stuff' about ndiswrapper?
[04:01] <isaacs> so you cant connect with ssh from the router.. can you ping the hosts on the internal subnet?
[04:01] <mwe> hihiu: good thing you could just ask here, then.
[04:01] <newtron> Have you tried just logging out and back in?
[04:01] <kiefer> i just moved my swap partition using GParted and now it is not being used.  any help?
[04:01] <hihiu> lol
[04:01] <younghacker> anybody in here familar with metasploit framework?
[04:02] <g0dd3ss> well yeah i installed a whole bunch of crsap yesterday, games and stuff
[04:02] <Pelo> mwe,  yeah so we can have the pleasure of looking it up to tell him
[04:02] <newtron> g0dd3ss, Have you tried logging out and back in?
[04:02] <troxor> kiefer: sudo swapon /dev/swappartition
[04:02] <g0dd3ss> newtron, yes I tried rebooting
[04:02] <zhm> Pelo, after i create a / and /home partition there's around 17gb free, but it says its unusable
[04:02] <DarkPontiac> My computer is a imperial glve motherboard with celeron 1.8 ghz and fan stops when booting ubuntu even with noacpi command
[04:02] <newtron> hmm
[04:02] <newtron> Im clueless
[04:02] <Pelo> younghacker,  this channel is mainly for installation issues and basic setup,  for specialised stuff you may have to look for a specialty channel
[04:03] <newtron> as that error doesn't say much to me
[04:03] <newtron> I got an idea though
[04:03] <Pelo> zhm,  unusable or unallocated ?
[04:03] <g0dd3ss> all good, thanks for trying anyway 8-] 
[04:03] <zhm> unusable
[04:03] <kiefer> troxor: it says no such file or directory
[04:03] <newtron> g0dd3ss, uninstall amsn again real quick
[04:03] <zhm> only option i have is to display cylinder stuff
[04:03] <Pelo> zhm,  did you make both  / and /home primary ?
[04:03] <g0dd3ss> heh alrighty
[04:03] <younghacker> @ Pelo i see, after i didn't get an answer i kinda figured, im googling a IRC room for MSf now thanks =
[04:03] <troxor> kiefer: what about `sudo fdisk -l`
[04:03] <DarkPontiac> so i'm guessing no one can help out this problem? cause its just puzzling to me
[04:04] <zhm> no, i originally only made / primary i thought
[04:04] <newtron> g0dd3ss, and try installing this .deb of it http://www.getdeb.net/download.php?release=1116&fpos=0
[04:04] <numus> where are programs located.. in waht file
[04:04] <dr_willis> DarkPontiac,  have you tried that noapci option mentioned e4arlier yet?
[04:04] <Pelo> zhm,  try making them all  logical
[04:04] <DarkPontiac> ya
[04:04] <DarkPontiac> it still stops
[04:04] <dr_willis> numus,  clarify the question please.
[04:04] <g0dd3ss> ok thanks newton
[04:04] <julio14> hello if anyone needs help l am  here
[04:04] <kiefer> troxor: my swap is located at /dev/sda5 but in system monitor is says 0% used
[04:04] <zhm> still making / bootable, righto?
[04:04] <numus> in what folder are programs located in
[04:04] <dr_willis> DarkPontiac,  sounds like some odd powersaving issue.
[04:05] <numus> i am trying to open a file witha  program
[04:05] <newtron> g0dd3ss, that deb is for 0.97 RC1
[04:05] <troxor> kiefer: what does 'free' tell you
[04:05] <dr_willis> numus,  which programs are you refering to? the executables are all over the place.
[04:05] <numus> azureus
[04:05] <CppIsWeird> where can i find out the current development status of gutsy?
[04:05] <dr_willis> numus,  use the 'which whatever' command to find where a speficic command is at.
[04:05] <kiefer> troxor: swap is all 0's
[04:05] <Pelo> zhm,  the intallation will reformat  / and make it bootable anyway, you donT' have to worry about that,   the one you are making now is basicaly just a placeholder
[04:05] <DarkPontiac> so how could i fix this?
[04:05] <numus> thank you
[04:05] <julio14> hey dude l dont recomment u azureus download bittornado is much better
[04:05] <ormandj> hey, when i run debuild -S, i don't see the .deb source package, only the diff it made, where is the package itself?
[04:05] <zhm> there we go Pelo, logical worked...made all 3 logical
[04:06] <bruenig> !english | julio14
[04:06] <ubotu> julio14: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[04:06] <DarkPontiac> using acpi=off will work but then everything doesn't run right and i have to hold shift or something for a lot stuff to load
[04:06] <newtron> Deluge is a nice bit torrent client
[04:06] <pr4bh> is there a way to restore ubuntu to its default settings? ive kinda messed up my sound card configurations
[04:06] <dr_willis> DarkClown,  perhaps some of the various, noapci, noapic, or other options might fix it up. Ive never seen a CPU fan slow down till it stops. You might be able to fighre out a command to speed it back up. but not sure what commands even controll that.
[04:06] <zhm> i'll buy you more beer :)
[04:06] <newtron> http://www.getdeb.net/app.php?name=Deluge
[04:06] <bruenig> pr4bh, no
[04:06] <dr_willis> oops that was to DarkPontiac
[04:06] <dr_willis> :()
[04:06] <bruenig> newtron, in the repos
[04:06] <phpwner> how come i can only vncviewer in after logging in locally after a reboot?
[04:06] <zhm> i still got 15.5gb free
[04:06] <Pelo> newtron,  I still prefer  utorrent on wine at this stage but  deluge is comming along nicely
[04:06] <newtron> I donno if deluge is in the repos
[04:06] <zhm> leave free or make into a partition
[04:06] <pr4bh> dr_willis: yep, even the internal soundcard is not working now lol
[04:07] <dr_willis> DarkPontiac, wire up the fan to the power supply and not the motherboard. so its always on? :)
[04:07] <PurpZeY_> !info deluge
[04:07] <Pelo> zhm,  I suggest you make  /home bigger
[04:07] <ubotu> Package deluge does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[04:07] <PurpZeY_> Not in the repos.
[04:07] <bruenig> !info deluge-torrent
[04:07] <newtron> Pelo, I don't even use bittorrent, I really prefer Usenet :)
[04:07] <zhm> it's 12gb now
[04:07] <ubotu> Package deluge-torrent does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[04:07] <bruenig> !find deluge
[04:07] <DarkPontiac> how can i connect the fan to a psu cable?
[04:07] <fragged> Hey guys, I'm wondering if nvidia drivers are still part of ubuntu, I'm gonna dl a live cd just to pull off xorg.conf settings as I cbf trying to figure them out
[04:07] <bruenig> the thing has an ubuntu subforum, certainly it is in the repos
[04:07] <newtron> And for that I use pan-devel
[04:07] <ubotu> Package/file deluge does not exist in feisty
[04:07] <troxor> kiefer: and you're sure sda5 is a swap partition?
[04:07] <phpwner> how can i start the vnc viewer _before_ logging in locally?
[04:07] <bruenig> well it used to be
[04:07] <troxor> kiefer: you can also re-initialize it with mkswap
[04:08] <kiefer> troxor: i just did sudo swapon /dev/sda5 and now free shows its recognized.  will this be permanent?
[04:08] <pr4bh> ok, what if i install ubuntu on top of a previous ubuntu installation? would that restore the soundcard settings? :S
[04:08] <dr_willis> phpwner,  whats the point of running vncviewer that way? you mean vncserver?
[04:08] <fragged> kiefer, you must add it to /etc/fstab
[04:08] <DarkPontiac> alright well i'll try different combinations
[04:08] <troxor> kiefer: until next restart..
[04:08] <isaacs> phpwner: elaborate
[04:08] <g0dd3ss> wheeee it's working now, thanks so much newton!
[04:08] <mavsman4457> I am having difficulty getting the Medibuntu repositories
[04:08] <fragged> pr4bh depending on sound card, most drivers are part of the kernel, all u have  to do is recompile
[04:08] <Pelo> pr4bh,  this isinT windows,  do it the proper way
[04:08] <newtron> g0dd3ss, not a problem.  Just curious, were you using the version from automatix?
[04:08] <dr_willis> mavsman4457,  they were down the other day.. not sure if they are back yet.. or just overloaded
[04:08] <newtron> Or from the repos?
[04:08] <g0dd3ss> newtron* sorry
[04:09] <kiefer> troxor fragged: thanks
[04:09] <Tarkus> hey, im a linux and windows user. but the only thing i use windows for is CGI and Visual Media (3DS Max, VRay, Modo, Photoshop, Mudbox, Flash, Illustrator, etc..) and what i am wondering is (since i have developed a great hatred for windows), will there ever be such advanced/professional CGI Tools like this available for linux? like open-source sofware?? or is this something i will always need to to use windows for? and be stuck i
[04:09] <Tarkus> n a commercialized cage of limitations?
[04:09] <g0dd3ss> um i used whatever was in synaptic
[04:09] <newtron> Ah, well this one is a bit newer
[04:09] <mavsman4457> dr_willis: if they were down then would it hang when i try to do "sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update"?
[04:09] <dr_willis> Tarkus,  thats how MS and the others want it. :)
[04:09] <g0dd3ss> alrighty cool thanks for all your help 8-] 
[04:09] <troxor> Tarkus: complain to the companies, or use blender/gimp ;)
[04:09] <RoC_MasterMind> Tarkus, it depends if those vendors compile it and release it for Linux.
[04:09] <dr_willis> mavsman4457,  not sure - let me update and see
[04:09] <newtron> No problem.  I'm here to help. :)
[04:09] <Pelo> Tarkus,  this list might help and also you can often find list of alternatives to software in wikipedia    http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html
[04:09] <fragged> Tarkus Linux will take over linux in a matter  ofyears, then it will be 'will there ever bee  anygreat alternatives to Liunux software for windows
[04:10] <zhm> here goes nothing
[04:10] <fragged> sry, laggy sunaccurate typing, compiling softwares
[04:10] <Drk_Guy> Hey, i have a GNOME art problem
[04:10] <bruenig> mavsman4457, sudo apt-key add -, adds the key that is in stdout, did you echo the key or cat a file with the key and pipe it or what
[04:10] <RoC_MasterMind> Tarkus, often times though, people right Free Software to replace the proprietary software they used before.
[04:10] <Tarkus> fragged, god, i hope you are right.
[04:10] <younghacker> i need help with backtrack
[04:10] <isaacs> tarkus: linux isnt going to suit your needs for a very long time
[04:10] <dr_willis> mavsman4457,  im getting some hit/ign/err messages on the mediatubu servers also
[04:10] <isaacs> tarkus: mac os x would though
[04:10] <fragged> a matter of years
[04:10] <metancool> hola
[04:11] <metancool> hay alguien que hable espaol
[04:11] <Tarkus> RoC_MasterMind, if i was skilled with code and programming, i would definately give it a shot, and try to build a comunity to work on it. but unfortunately i know very little in that area..
[04:11] <troxor> younghacker: http://catb.org/~esr/writings/unix-koans/script-kiddie.html ;)
[04:11] <mavsman4457> dr_willis: I was just following this line of commands in hope of adding those repositories https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[04:11] <Drk_Guy> !spanish
[04:11] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:11] <fbolduc> Question: Which version of GCC should I use to build Ubuntu Feisty Fawn kernel modules?
[04:11] <bruenig> mavsman4457, don't do stuff when you don't understand what is going on
[04:11] <fragged> younghacker, this is an ubuntu chat, much you have to learn my son
[04:11] <fragged> I'm wondering if nvidia drivers are still part of ubuntu, I'm gonna dl a live cd just to pull off xorg.conf settings as I cbf trying to figure them out
[04:12] <Drk_Guy> Hey, i have a GNOME art problem
[04:12] <fragged> as in the mainstream cd images
[04:12] <bruenig> mavsman4457, without looking I assume they have you download a file with wget to stdout and the pipe that to apt-key, did you do the whole command include the | or did you break it up
[04:12] <mavsman4457> bruenig: I thought it was adding the repositories to my system, then I would be able to install google earth, no?
[04:12] <bruenig> mavsman4457, I mean seriously get what is going on
[04:12] <bruenig> not, I do this and then magic happens after
[04:12] <Drk_Guy> Bruenig, google earth for Linux is Google earth for Windowze with WINE
[04:13] <fragged> cmmon, its a basic question, are the propriatry nvidia drivers still included in the mainstream ubuntu live cd's?
[04:13] <bruenig> don't know what that was directed at me
[04:13] <Drk_Guy> So, you install wine and Google E. at the same time
[04:13] <bruenig> fragged, doubt it
[04:13] <PurpZeY_> Drk_Guy: Wine first
[04:13] <Tarkus> isaacs, yeah, i like OSX alot (isnt it a Unix based os?), the only thing stopping me from using it, is that my favorite 3d packages arent available for it, i know C4D is.. and the price of MACs are soo high, that its not worth it for me
[04:13] <Vorbote> fragged, unless the planet has tipped over, yes.
[04:13] <bruenig> fragged, there is no reason for them to be, unless the host machine doesn't have internet access or something
[04:14] <rocca> Hi
[04:14] <isaacs> tarkus: the price of mac's are reasonable.. the mini is only 599$
[04:14] <astro76> mavsman4457, I'd recommend using the latest installer from google
[04:14] <Tarkus> isaacs, if OSX was able to install natively on x86, then that would be a whole other story.
[04:14] <Drk_Guy> Hey, i have a GNOME art problem
[04:14] <fragged> Vorbote, lol i guess there would be  riots if compiz/fusion didnt work with no user interaction on ubuntu ;)
[04:14] <aznpridechinese> anyone here using gnome? why is it that my screen doesn't show entirely and i have to move my mouse down to see the rest of the screen?
[04:14] <astro76> Google Earth for linux is native qt, btw
[04:14] <rocca> I have no sound on my vaio laptop on feisty, what should I do (but the microphone works) ?
[04:14] <fbolduc> Question: which version of GCC should I use to compile Ubuntu kernel modules?
[04:14] <isaacs> and paralels allows you to run those apps nativly side by side with mac os x
[04:14] <Pelo> Drk_Guy,   get a troll to bash them
[04:14] <Tarkus> isaacs, but i know whats inside the mini, its just a core duo
[04:14] <newtron> rocca, what snd card?
[04:14] <mavsman4457> astro76: i tried that but it told me that it was unpacking the package then did nothing after that
[04:14] <newtron> Is in an intel?
[04:14] <Drk_Guy> when i rty to dl a theme, the proggie just closes itself
[04:14] <Drk_Guy> *try
[04:14] <Tarkus> isaacs, im running a way better pc atm, and its about the same price. (i build my PC's).
[04:15] <earthmeLon> Hey buddies, Im trying to move where my MBR/grub is located.  I need to remove the hdd that it is on >_<
[04:15] <Drk_Guy> Pelo, wtf are you talking about?
[04:15] <Pelo> Drk_Guy,  it does that for me to but the them gets deleted anyway
[04:15] <astro76> mavsman4457, how did you run it? with sudo?
[04:15] <rocca> newtron: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[04:15] <Vorbote> Tarkus, who says OSX doesn't install native in x86? It uses EFI instead of BIOS, and that is a tenear-old technology.
[04:15] <isaacs> tarkus: i think parallels is being ported to linux as well
[04:15] <newtron> rocca, ever use alsamixer? I think I know the problem...
[04:15] <mavsman4457> astro76: no i just downloaded the .bin file then dragged that into the terminal and executed it
[04:15] <fragged> earthmeLon, grub-install --no-floppy /dev/DEVICE but make sure your kernel and fstab are all configured correclty
[04:15] <rocca> newtron: I used it...
[04:16] <newtron> rocca, Open a terminal and run alsamixer
[04:16] <earthmeLon> Thank you fragged
[04:16] <fragged> basically if you copy your /boot to another parition, reconfigure fstab and grub.conf that will work
[04:16] <rocca> newtron: with sudo ?
[04:16] <newtron> look for the switch for "External Amplifier" or something like that
[04:16] <newtron> no
[04:16] <newtron> sudo not neededf
[04:16] <rocca> newtron: ok, it's openned
[04:16] <Jerome_> Hmmm
[04:16] <newtron> and disable the External Amplifier
[04:16] <newtron> if you see it
[04:16] <newtron> That screwed up my card in my laptop, its the same card...
[04:17] <Tarkus> Vorbote, really? i though that they only made drivers for the hardware they use.. cause i have an AMD.. didnt think it would work..
[04:17] <fragged> unsure about ubuntu but on most distro's sound card is muted by default
[04:17] <astro76> mavsman4457, in a terminal cd to where it is, then chmod +x GoogleEarthLinux.bin, then sudo ./GoogleEarthLinux.bin
[04:17] <Carleton91> I am having issues with ndiswrapper, can anybody help me?
[04:17] <rocca> newtron: where is it ?
[04:17] <newtron> It was over toward the right
[04:17] <rocca> newtron: I can't find it
[04:17] <newtron> I had to go over a ways
[04:17] <newtron> Hmm, maybe you don't have that switch then...
[04:18] <aznpridechinese> can anyone tell me how i can get my virtual screen to fit inside my physical screen in gnome?
[04:18] <fragged> rocca, sound cards are muted by default, read the alsamixer manual and figure it out ;)
[04:18] <Vorbote> Tarkus, as long as the board supports EFI, you can boot OSX as main OS. Else you'll have to emulate it (I think cvs versions of GRUB2 can do it). It has nothing to do with the CPU itself.
[04:18] <Tarkus> isaacs, im using a dual-boot system right now. its probably faster than a virtual system to im guessing
[04:18] <fragged> aznpridechinese, change the default resolution in /etc/X/xoorg.conf I think
[04:18] <Carleton91> Is anyone good with wireless networking via ndiswrapper?
[04:18] <isaacs> tarkus: marginally
[04:19] <rocca> fragged: I don't think mine is muted
[04:19] <Pelo> aznpridechinese,  what virtual screen are you running a virtualisation app ?  like vmware or virtualbox ?  ask in their channel
[04:19] <isaacs> tarkus: and 3d acceleration is supported now
[04:19] <newtron> MM in alsamixer stands for muted
[04:19] <aznpridechinese> frag i told it to use highest possible resolution, but i know there is a way to fit that resolution inside my physical monitor without having me to move my mouse up and down to see the rest of the screen
[04:19] <jordan_> Hi guys, how do I enable component video out on my nvidia video card?
[04:19] <Vorbote> Tarkus, now the matter of actual dirver support for peripherals and integraded chipsets, that's another kettle of fish.
[04:19] <aznpridechinese> i'm using gnome
[04:20] <Tarkus> Vorbote, any idea how i can tell if my board supports EFI? (Asus A8N-SLI Premium)
[04:20] <Pelo> aznpridechinese,  what virtual machine app are you using ?
[04:20] <fragged> aznpridechinese, your talking about X right?
[04:20] <newtron> Electronic Fuel Injection?
[04:20] <aznpridechinese> yes
[04:20] <newtron> :P
[04:20] <Olgem> Should I get i386, or x86_64, I can run both.
[04:21] <mavsman4457> astro76: this is what i get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29177/
[04:21] <aznpridechinese> i'm on gnome right now, and if i want to see the bottom half of the screen i ahve to move my mouse to the bottom of the screen then it kind of scrolls down.
[04:21] <dr_willis> Olgem,  use the 32bit distros for now.
[04:21] <Olgem> Flash can't run on amd64 :(
[04:21] <Drk_Guy> lgem, it depends on you processor
[04:21] <Pelo> Olgem,  if you donT' have a speicial need for  amd64  use x86
[04:21] <S_Rens> J'ai un problme avec le paquet XMLTV - druid
[04:21] <jordan__> Olgem, yes it can
[04:21] <Vorbote> Tarkus, reading the mainboard manual ;-)
[04:21] <Drk_Guy> !french
[04:21] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:21] <jordan__> !flash64 | Olgem
[04:21] <ubotu> Olgem: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[04:21] <Pelo> !fr | S_Rens
[04:21] <ubotu> S_Rens: please see above
[04:21] <mathias_schnell> I need to mount a DVD image so I can install a game.  How do I do that?  By the way, the image is a .mdf
[04:21] <Olgem> Jordan, don't you need to load up a bunch of 32bit libraries and stuff
[04:21] <Carleton91> I keep getting an error when running ndiswrapper, can anyone help?
[04:21] <jordan__> Olgem, Yes.
[04:22] <fragged> mathias_schnell, man mount
[04:22] <Drk_Guy> !iso | mathias_schnell
[04:22] <ubotu> mathias_schnell: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[04:22] <isaacs> aznpridechinese: virtual resolution sucks. if you didnt intend it you are gunn ahave to edit your x.org conf file
[04:23] <jordan__> aznpridechinese, Try lowering the resolution in System -> Preferences -> Resolution
[04:23] <mavsman4457> bruenig: I now understand what is going on if you are willing to help me out
[04:23] <astro76> mavsman4457, it should then open up a gui window and install
[04:23] <Carleton91> I recieve the error "couldn't open WMP11V27.inf: No such file or directory at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 217." when i try to install a driver, does anyone know how to fix that?
[04:23] <aznpridechinese> but in kde this never happens
[04:23] <mavsman4457> astro76: it doesn't want to do it
[04:23] <fragged> Carleton91, then it cannot find the file?
[04:23] <aznpridechinese> whatever resolution i choose the entire virtual screen will fit inside my physical monitor screen
[04:23] <mavsman4457> astro76: could it be because i'm on a ppc?
[04:24] <astro76> mavsman4457, that's the problem
[04:24] <jordan__> aznpridechinese, That is because you have different preferences set in KDE
[04:24] <astro76> mavsman4457, it's binary for i386
[04:24] <mavsman4457> astro76: so I can't get google earth?
[04:24] <astro76> mavsman4457, I think you're out of luck
[04:24] <mavsman4457> dngit
[04:24] <mavsman4457> would Medibuntu help?
[04:24] <aznpridechinese> ahhh nvm, i just lowered the resolution one notch and everything fits now
[04:24] <Carleton91> fragged, the file is on the desktop, its trying to install a driver using ndiswrapper, but that error comes up
[04:24] <jordan__> mavsman4457, What are you trying to do?
[04:24] <aznpridechinese> i'm running at 1920x1200 right now
[04:25] <isaacs> is that the resolution you use in kde?
[04:25] <mavsman4457> jordan_: well originally I was trying to install google earth, I'm on a PPC by the way, but along the way I wanted to get the Medibuntu repositories
[04:25] <aznpridechinese> what would be the equivalent in gnome to the kde's adept manager?
[04:25] <fragged> Carleton91, then obviously you have to point ndiswrapper to the location, or put the file in the relavent place, idk i've never played with ndiswrapper
[04:25] <mavsman4457> jordan_: and neither would work
[04:25] <Flannel> aznpridechinese: Synaptic Package Manager
[04:25] <fragged> I has to soon though :D
[04:25] <aznpridechinese> thanks
[04:26] <n2diy> Carleton91: the driver needs to be where ndiswrapper can find it, not on the desktop.
[04:26] <Carleton91> n2diy, do you know what directory i should put it in?
[04:26] <jordan__> mavsman4457, Yeah, google doesn't release google earth for PPC :(
[04:27] <jordan__> mavsman4457, What codecs do you need from medibuntu?
[04:27] <n2diy> Carleton91: no, I've never played with that, try locate modules, that may help
[04:27] <mavsman4457> jordan_: dang, could you help me figure out how to get the medibuntu repositories
[04:27] <jeremysan> How does one uninstall something with Wine that was previously installed with Wine?
[04:28] <mavsman4457> jordan_: and I was also wondeirng how to find the path to my usb joystick if you could help me with that as well
[04:28] <fragged> Carleton91, read the manual maybe?
[04:28] <jordan__> jeremysan, Can you restate the question?
[04:28] <gireesh> jeremysan: just type uninstaller in the terminal and see if the wine uninstaller comes up
[04:28] <DarkPontiac> Alright i'm back... i don't know what to do... nothing is working. i have tried a lot of combinations
[04:28] <Fezzler> Having MAJOR problems.  Ubuntu 7.04.   X Server keeps freezing/crashing.  I reinstalled xconfig and nvidia.  Still crashing.
[04:29] <jordan__> DarkPontiac, What are you trying to do?
[04:29] <gireesh> wine has an uninstaller similar to windows
[04:29] <Carleton91> fragged: the howto's and everything just say to put the three driver files in the same folder
[04:29] <gireesh> Fezzler: does it help if you revert to the nv driver?
[04:29] <fragged> so you read them all and none of them said specifically where to put them?
[04:29] <DarkPontiac> trying to run ubuntu but keep my cpu fan spinning, it stops whenever ubuntu loads
[04:29] <fragged> gimme a break
[04:29] <gireesh> and what does Xorg.0.log say?
[04:29] <fragged> read more, you will become smarter from finding information on your own
[04:29] <Fezzler> Shutting down and restarting helps.  But after a few uses of Applications Places or System and they freeze.
[04:30] <jordan__> DarkClown, What kind of comp?
[04:30] <DarkPontiac> Imperial GL-Ve eMachines Celeron 1.8 ghz
[04:30] <Fezzler> gireesh: you want to see my Xorg.0.log?
[04:30] <gireesh> Fezzler: does it show any errors in there when you freeze?
[04:30] <Fezzler> How can I pastebin it?
[04:31] <gireesh> and does it do the same with the nv driver?
[04:31] <jordan__> Fezzler, Did you install through restricted manager?
[04:31] <mavsman4457> Does anyone know how I could find the path for my USB joystick?
[04:31] <jordan__> !paste | Fezzler
[04:31] <ubotu> Fezzler: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:31] <K`zan> hi folks, installed a package as: dpkg -i brscan-0.2.3-0.i386.deb and need to remove itdpkg -r brscan-0.2.3-0.i386.deb seems to indicate that I need to find out what all it installed and remove it one at a time ?!?  HELP :-)!,
[04:31] <Fezzler> gireesh: I don't know but I really need help.
[04:31] <mavsman4457> Actually the "string" for my USB joystick
[04:32] <mavsman4457> would be nice to know how to find
[04:32] <gireesh> Fezzler: you should find that file in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:32] <Carleton91> that's my issue =( I've read everything i can find, but none of them mention this line 217 error.  I'm going to reboot in ubuntu and try moving stuff around, thanks for helping =D
[04:32] <Fezzler> I know how to use pastebin, I don't know how to get to Xorg.0.log
[04:32] <jordan__> mavsman4457, lsusb ?
[04:32] <gireesh> mavsman4457: have you treid lsusb
[04:32] <Fezzler> Jordan: I installed from command line
[04:32] <mavsman4457> jordan_: what is lsusb?
[04:32] <gireesh> Fezzler: using nautilus or konqueror go to /var/log
[04:32] <Fezzler> Jordan: Then ran Update wizard after I got computer going again
[04:32] <n2diy> Fezzler: /var/logs?
[04:32] <jordan__> mavsman4457, It probes and gives info about usb devices
[04:33] <Fezzler> gireesh: on the way (unless X Server crashes)
[04:33] <mavsman4457> jordan_: I just tried running it in the temrinal and it gave me nothing
[04:33] <Pelo> !ohmy | jordan__
[04:33] <ubotu> jordan__: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:33] <jordan__> Pelo, ?
[04:33] <phpwner> how do i run a non-shell program with sudo
[04:33] <gireesh> mavsman4457: sudo
[04:33] <Pelo> jordan__,   it "probes"
[04:33] <gireesh> run it as sudo lsusb
[04:33] <Pelo> ;-)
[04:33] <DarkClown> jordan_: ???
[04:34] <phpwner> i cant save my changes to fstab
[04:34] <Jordan_U> DarkClown, ?
[04:34] <phpwner> so how do i sudo
[04:34] <mavsman4457> gireesh: still nothing
[04:34] <gireesh> does it say command not found?
[04:34] <Jordan_U> phpwner, gksudo gedit
[04:34] <Pelo> phpwner, you had to open gedit at root,  sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[04:34] <Fezzler> gireesh: Selecting "Places" froze up X server.  Ugh
[04:34] <Pelo> or what Jordan_U  said
[04:34] <gireesh> Fezzler: type CTRL-ALT-F1
[04:34] <Jordan_U> Pelo, gksudo for GUI apps
[04:35] <Pelo> Jordan_U,  I know I just keep forgeting
[04:35] <gireesh> you can login text mode there and then vi /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:35] <phpwner> why does one of my mounted NTFS volumes show no files but all but 30 GB used?
[04:36] <skcubrats> How can I found out which versions of various applications are available as packages for different versions of Ubuntu without installing every version of Ubuntu?
[04:36] <Flannel> skcubrats: packages.ubuntu.com
[04:36] <Jordan_U> skcubrats, packages.ubuntu.com
[04:36] <agn0stic> gireesh: why would you want to edit the log? less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:36] <Fezzler> gireesh:  I know that.  Hold on.
[04:36] <naik0_> how do i change video codec in mplayer?
[04:36] <naik0_> mplayer and not gmplayer
[04:37] <bruenig> Naik0, what?
[04:37] <bruenig> it detects the necessary codec when you load a file
[04:37] <zhm> hmm, kdm or gdm?
[04:37] <bruenig> you can recompile mplayer I guess if you want
[04:37] <fragged> do you mean the video output codec?
[04:37] <fragged> -vo aa for funz!
[04:37] <naik0_> i use compiz-fusion and when i start mplayer it is no video
[04:37] <naik0_> just audio
[04:37] <fragged> or caca for pwnage
[04:38] <bruenig> Naik0, #ubuntu-effects
[04:38] <fragged> this is why compiz sux
[04:38] <Jordan_U> Naik0, You need to use noxv
[04:38] <unitheory> Naik0, right click on mplayer and go to preferences then the video tab
[04:38] <naik0_> unitheory: okey
[04:38] <bruenig> lol
[04:38] <Fezzler> gireesh: is that a "zero" or letter "O" in xorg.0.log?
[04:38] <zhm> do you suggest installing grub to master boot record if i'm dual booting with xp pro?
[04:38] <gireesh> that is a zero
[04:38] <agn0stic> fezzler: zero
[04:38] <bruenig> 0's have dots in them
[04:38] <gireesh> zhm: yes
[04:39] <fragged> zhm likely to be the case, provided you get the windows booting right
[04:39] <Fezzler> gireesh: vi openned a new file
[04:39] <Jordan_U> zhm, That is the standard
[04:39] <zhm> xp is already on there
[04:39] <Fezzler> gireesh: I don't know vi very well
[04:39] <gireesh> Fezzler: then listen to agn0stic
[04:39] <agn0stic> fezzler: you could type /var/log/X[hit the tab button] 
[04:39] <gireesh> do a less
[04:39] <naik0_> Jordan_U: zhm i dont have that
[04:39] <gireesh> less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:39] <gireesh> use tab to autocomplete
[04:39] <Fezzler> agn: from command prompt?
[04:39] <bruenig> or you could do ls /var/log
[04:39] <ari_stress> hi all
[04:40] <ari_stress> pls help
[04:40] <bruenig> and see what is in there
[04:40] <ari_stress> why i dont have fetchmail?
[04:40] <ari_stress> sudo apt-get install fetchmail
[04:40] <ari_stress> Reading package lists... Done
[04:40] <ari_stress> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:40] <ari_stress> E: Couldn't find package fetchmail
[04:40] <Jordan_U> naik0_, You need to find out how to use noxv output from mplayer, I can tell you how to do it with totem
[04:40] <bruenig> !info fetchmail
[04:40] <gireesh> Fezzler: yes type in "less /var/log/X" and then hit tab
[04:40] <ubotu> fetchmail: SSL enabled POP3, APOP, IMAP mail gatherer/forwarder. In component main, is optional. Version 6.3.6-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 356 kB, installed size 1780 kB
[04:40] <Naik0> Jordan_U: please
[04:40] <Fezzler> how do I exit vi?
[04:40] <gireesh> hit :q!
[04:40] <bruenig> Fezzler, :wq :q! :x ZZ
[04:40] <bruenig> all good
[04:41] <Jordan_U> Fezzler, escape + :q!
[04:41] <Tarkus> if i have ubuntu installed right now. and i want to setup a dual-boot with XP Pro. is it possible to do it without having to do windows first and then ubuntu? or am i going to need to reinstall both now?
[04:41] <Naik0> Jordan_U: it's okey
[04:41] <bruenig> ari_stress, what version of ubuntu are you using
[04:41] <ari_stress> bruenig: this is very strange, i want to install fetchmail in dapper. in my home pc, i can install it, but in my office pc.. it can't.. with that error
[04:41] <bruenig> !info fetchmail dapper
[04:41] <gireesh> Tarkus: you can always reinstall the bootloader
[04:41] <ubotu> fetchmail: SSL enabled POP3, APOP, IMAP mail gatherer/forwarder. In component main, is optional. Version 6.3.2-2ubuntu2.1 (dapper), package size 324 kB, installed size 1532 kB
[04:41] <masterloki> I and haveing problems with my soundcard it will does not play back flash or any audio in mplayer I have tried to fallow the howto guides in the forums and now I am confused can anyone help me
[04:41] <bruenig> ari_stress, do sudo apt-get update and then try again
[04:41] <ari_stress> ok bruenig
[04:42] <Jordan_U> Tarkus, You can install Ubuntu after windows, you will just need to restore GRUB after windows clobbers it
[04:42] <Tarkus> gireesh, so i installed windows on an empty partition now, and then how do i access the boot loader in windows?
[04:42] <bruenig> masterloki, not sure your sound card is responsible for playing back flash
[04:42] <gireesh> Tarkus: is UBuntu already isntalled?
[04:42] <Jordan_U> masterloki, Does any player work?
[04:42] <masterloki> yes movie player works
[04:42] <bruenig> totem
[04:42] <Tarkus> Jordan_U, i know i can install ubuntu after windows, thats the way that works imediately afaik.. but my problem is that i have ubuntu installed now.. only ubuntu.. and i dont want to have to reinstall it, etc..
[04:43] <Jordan_U> !grub | Tarkus
[04:43] <ubotu> Tarkus: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:43] <Fezzler> okay, into Xorg
[04:43] <Fezzler> what am I looking for
[04:43] <dimas__> does firefox has any way to restrict the sharing video from flash player?
[04:43] <Jordan_U> Tarkus, Why would you have to re-install it?
[04:43] <hero> !usb
[04:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:43] <bruenig> dimas__, explain
[04:43] <Jack_Sparrow> tarkus.. you can install windows after Ubuntu.  The problem is that most windows programs default install to C and need custom install to point to a different partition.. It is a pain
[04:43] <bruenig> what is sharing video
[04:43] <gireesh> Fezzler: did it open the file? In there scroll down to see if there are any errors
[04:43] <zhm> how is ubuntu with usb mice?
[04:43] <zhm> i have a kensington mini usb mouse
[04:43] <gireesh> zhm:  no reason why it should not work
[04:44] <zhm> alrighty
[04:44] <phpwner> how do i know where smb.conf is? it isn't in /etc
[04:44] <Tarkus> Jordan_U, cause i though that it only works if you do windows and then ubuntu.. but now i see that you i can make grub work manually.
[04:44] <zhm> was just checking to see
[04:44] <Tarkus> Jordan_U, thanks ill look at that.
[04:44] <phpwner> NVM
[04:44] <CppIsWeird> my samba cant see any windows network, however at my friends house, i can see all networks and pc's.
[04:44] <Tarkus> Jack_Sparrow, Jordan_U, so would it be a better choice to remove both and do it in order (windows first)?
[04:45] <nich0s> I'm trying to find help for hybrid-ircd and it doesn't appear to be loading at start. Does anyone know anything about hybrid-ircd or how I would go about checking to see if it is set to launch at start.
[04:45] <dimas__> bruening>> i have my webcam working good perhaps on ekiga but when i try to use it on video web chat that use flash player to display camera pictures it comes a black screen....
[04:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Tarkus: In my opinion.. yes
[04:45] <bruenig> Tarkus, no just install windows, pop the live cd in and restore grub
[04:45] <Jordan_U> Tarkus,No, unless you have a reason to
[04:45] <bruenig> takes 5 min to get grub back
[04:45] <trelayne> anyone  know a linux tool that I can use to draw a curve based on input data ?
[04:45] <bruenig> and 90% of that is load time for live cd
[04:45] <masterloki> I have install the nonfree flash plugin and I have dl alsa oss how ever I still no sound went playing flash like on youtube
[04:45] <Jack_Sparrow> bruenig: and everything you install in windows will require more work
[04:46] <ari_stress> bruenig: thanks :) i've got fetchmail now
[04:46] <bruenig> Jack_Sparrow, what?
[04:46] <Fezzler> gireesh and team:  looking at file, first I see a lot of font issues but it appears to resolve/rest them itself.  BRB
[04:46] <zhm> i haven't had issue yet, granted i just installed unbuntu
[04:46] <kiefer> trelayne: use a spreadsheet app and plot the data and fit a curve?
[04:46] <zhm> with xp on c:
[04:46] <bruenig> Jack_Sparrow, how will stuff in windows require more work
[04:46] <Jordan_U> masterloki, What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[04:46] <Tarkus> bruenig, awesome. what do i do to reset grub?
[04:46] <bruenig> !grub | Tarkus
[04:46] <ubotu> Tarkus: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:46] <masterloki> 7.04
[04:46] <Jack_Sparrow> bruenig: If you install windows second on a partition other than the first partition
[04:46] <bruenig> first one
[04:46] <masterloki> fiesty
[04:46] <EADG> Any way to enable headphone jack detection without starting X?
[04:46] <regeya> #ubuntu: Total of 1062 nicks <- !!!
[04:46] <trelayne> kiefer,  thanks but is that possible to do with openoffice ?
[04:46] <bruenig> Jack_Sparrow, doesn't matter
[04:46] <Jordan_U> master_o1_master, Flash 9 uses alsa,  not OSS
[04:46] <Jack_Sparrow> YEs it does.. to windows
[04:47] <AncientP1> hey guys, I can't resize the root partition when booting off the LiveCD and using gparted despite the fact that the free space is adjacent to the root partition and the file systems are unmounted (gparted screenshot: http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=37669&d=1183946842)
[04:47] <bruenig> Jack_Sparrow, I know many people who have it on the second partition, there is no issue, where is the issue
[04:47] <slickster> hello
[04:47] <slickster> i have a question for someone that knows a lot about this tuff
[04:47] <slickster> stuff*
[04:47] <masterloki> so how would I correct all this
[04:47] <iammisc> AncientP1: which version?
[04:47] <regeya> !ask | slickster
[04:47] <ubotu> slickster: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:47] <masterloki> I am a noob
[04:47] <Jordan_U> bruenig, Windows is stupid and needs to be tricked by grub into thinking that it is on the first partition, but this is done automatically so there really is no problem
[04:47] <Jack_Sparrow> bruenig: Not going to argue.. it isnt a big issue but it is still makes everything else you install in windows a little different
[04:48] <ari_stress> @all Ubuntu rocks!! :D
[04:48] <iammisc> slickster: i'm sure we all know a lot about this stuff
[04:48] <slickster> i'm EXTREMELY new to the linux world. i need to figure out if my system has edgy, or breezy, or dapper. i have no idea what those are or which i have on here.
[04:48] <gireesh> wait till you have to use the map command in grub :D
[04:48] <AncientP1> iammisc: I'm using the v7.04 LiveCD and the gparted on that CD
[04:48] <bruenig> Jack_Sparrow, the only possible problem would be getting the thing to boot and as Jordan says...
[04:48] <nich0s> I'm trying to find help for hybrid-ircd and it doesn't appear to be loading at start. Does anyone know anything about hybrid-ircd or how I would go about checking to see if it is set to launch at start.
[04:48] <CppIsWeird> my samba cant see any windows network, however at my friends house, i can see all networks and pc's.
[04:48] <Jordan_U> bruenig, Though I don't use windows so I don't know if individual applications would have problems, though I can't see why they would
[04:48] <ari_stress> slickster: you mean you already have linux installed in your PC?
[04:48] <Jack_Sparrow> bruenig: Read back.. it is a bigger issue than just the boot
[04:48] <bruenig> more likely, you heard someone say something and you repeat as if you know for a fact, like the dumbasses who come in here and talk about aptitude all the time
[04:49] <slickster> yes, ari_stress. im using it right now.
[04:49] <kiefer> trelayne: you can at least plot them with openoffice calc, i havent found a best fit curve feature, but it will plot them
[04:49] <Fezzler> gireesh: most of the ERRORS if not all had to do with something called "wacom"
[04:49] <Naik0> Hey, if iam on a site with movie clips. If i click on a movie link the movie tries to open in the internet. I want it so i can choose to download or open it
[04:49] <bruenig> everything else you install in windows a little different, ah yes I can discern exactly what that means
[04:49] <iammisc> AncientP1: oh. Uhmm. i dont know about Feisty, but maybe you should use the official gparted livecd
[04:49] <Godchaser> I have very important idea for beryl/animations plugin idea? I myself wouldn't know how to code it, but if anyone know who to contact for this idea to be considered msg me, please and thanks
[04:49] <Jack_Sparrow> bruenig: It is a fact... obviously you dont have a clue ablut what I am saying as you probably dont run windows as the second install
[04:49] <Fezzler> gireesh and team: after the ERRORS, there are lines that end with "SUCCESS"
[04:49] <trelayne>  kiefer  thanks for letting me know, will look into it
[04:49] <gireesh> Fezzler: no other errors in there?
[04:49] <fragged> Godchaser, important and beryl do not belong in the same sentence
[04:49] <regeya> slickster, you're telling me you installed an operating system without even knowing what you were installing???  um...heh, I started to answer that question, but I'll refrain as I'm currently on a debian box :-}  one thing to check, unless you've changed /etc/apt/sources.list and see what dist most those lines seem to be referring to
[04:49] <bruenig> Jack_Sparrow, what, the "stuff happens" is not really convincing
[04:50] <kiefer> trelayne: yea i just found it under line chart types, you can have it plot a function, should work
[04:50] <godt_lobster> How can i 'pretend' install something with apt? Like see the applications that would be required, which it would install
[04:50] <Godchaser> fragged: perhaps your right, but ....
[04:50] <bruenig> maybe partition magic or ghost or something, but windows should be fine
[04:50] <godt_lobster> the dependencies and so forth
[04:50] <Jordan_U> Godchaser, try #compcomm
[04:50] <trelayne> kiefer,  awesome!
[04:50] <Flannel> godt_lobster: -s or --simulate
[04:50] <godt_lobster> Flannel: thanks
[04:50] <Fezzler> gireesh:  let me look again.  How do I exit the scroll?  all I get is END "BEEP"
[04:50] <gireesh> hit q
[04:50] <dimas__> bruenig>>i did compile the driver (ov51x) to use my webcam and is working properly perhaps ekiga and xawtv but when i try to use it in a web page for video chat (pages configures with adove flash player) it recognize the cam but the screen come out black is that cause there is a kind of block from firefox?
[04:50] <gireesh> ack!! that would exit
[04:51] <slickster> well, i installed ubuntu, i know that much.  but im trying to put WINE on here, and im being told that the version or whatever of WINE that i need to install has to go along with whether i have dapper, edgy, or breezy. and i have no idea what any of those are.
[04:51] <gireesh> Fezzler: did you say the system was hard locking?
[04:51] <regeya> #debian: Total of 751 nicks <- y'all have #debian beat by around 300 people, congrats
[04:51] <bruenig> dimas__, no
[04:51] <Flannel> slickster: `lsb_release -a`
[04:51] <Godchaser> heh. no one home.
[04:51] <iammisc> slickster: installing wine using the normal add/remove should be o
[04:51] <iammisc> ok*
[04:51] <Jack_Sparrow> slickster: those are names of different versions of ubuntu
[04:51] <Dalgren> I have an IRC file that was saved as a .log file. I have attempted to delete it nurnerous times but it keeps showing up in Log Viewer. How to do I get rid of this file?
[04:51] <bruenig> regeya?
[04:52] <dimas__> bruenig>>do you have any idea what should i do?
[04:52] <slickster> alright, well i'll look into it a little more.
[04:52] <bruenig> dimas__, no
[04:52] <slickster> ok i guess i have fiesty. what in the world is that?
[04:52] <IndyGunFreak> i've never messed with windowblinds
[04:52] <nich0s> Good night allz
[04:53] <ari_stress> slickster: it;s the latest ubuntu: 7.04
[04:53] <iammisc> slickster it doesn't matter. ubuntu has the right version for you
[04:53] <gireesh> slickster: the latest release :)
[04:53] <slickster> so installing WINE using the add/remove should work just fine?
[04:53] <Jack_Sparrow> slickster: yes
[04:53] <slickster> excellent. i'll give it a shot.
[04:53] <EADG> Dalgren: turn off irc logging.
[04:53] <regeya> bruenig: I remember a time when there were far fewer people in freenode's #ubuntu channel than #debian...weird to see the opposite now
[04:53] <arctanx> Hi, I've been trying to set up ubuntu on a friend's PC and he's had every little issue under the sun. Anyway, problem now is that Xwindows will without warning die and chuck you back at gdm. Is this a known issue, or am I going to have to direct him through trying to find the right Xorg logs or something?
[04:53] <regeya> anyway, yes, that was offtopic so :X
[04:54] <samrocks> hi I
[04:54] <Jordan_U> arctanx, What GPU does he have?
[04:54] <slickster> any idea WHERE, in the add/remove list, WINE would be listed?
[04:54] <Fezzler> gireesh and team:  Looked closely.  All Xconfig ERRORS have to do with "xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/wacom"
[04:54] <bruenig> slickster, sudo apt-get install wine
[04:54] <CppIsWeird> my samba cant see any windows network, however at my friends house, i can see all networks and pc's.
[04:54] <samrocks> I'm having a devil of a time, when i do apt-get update it's giving me 404 errors; I'm using simplyMEPIS and I was wondering if anyone could give me some insite
[04:54] <bruenig> !offtopic | samrocks
[04:54] <ubotu> samrocks: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:54] <zhm> is it a pain to remote gnome and use kde?
[04:55] <iammisc> slickster: just open up a terminal and type in sudo apt-get install wine
[04:55] <mattycoze1> hay how do i get something to open on start up that requires root authentication and I don't want to enter the password each time it starts up
[04:55] <gireesh> zhm: you can use both
[04:55] <Fezzler> So does that mean this is not the reason X server is freezing/crashing?
[04:55] <iammisc> it's so much easier
[04:55] <Dalgren> EADG...I don't have IRC logging...it was put on my hd as a file transfer and now won't disappear
[04:55] <gireesh> Fezzler: might not be
[04:56] <zhm> ok, lemme do kde and we'll see
[04:56] <regeya> samrocks: I agree that it's offtopic...but it sounds like the urls in your sources.list are crap
[04:56] <bruenig> Dalgren, is it on the disk still
[04:56] <gireesh> Fezzler: do you know how to edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[04:56] <hatsby> bananaz
[04:56] <Dalgren> yes...somewhere, but I can't find it
[04:56] <bruenig> there is a mepis channel
[04:56] <gireesh> you can change the entry for nvidia to nv and see if your crashes go away
[04:56] <samrocks> ehh i checked, no answers for a while
[04:56] <Dalgren> but it'll come up in log viewer
[04:56] <bruenig> Dalgren, what is log viewer
[04:56] <arctanx> Jordan_U: It's a nvidia one, running nv drivers. onboard, he tells me. He was having issues with the binary drivers so he uninstalled them, and started using nv again.
[04:56] <phpwner> where is the startup script located for the machine? not just for a user
[04:56] <Jack_Sparrow> samrocks: answers in there now
[04:56] <Fezzler> Doing some Google, I see some have fixed crashing X server but turning off "render acceleration" in Xconfig???
[04:57] <ari_stress> somebody knows how to set the IP address statically using CLI? I don't have GUI access
[04:57] <robby> Hi all
[04:57] <bruenig> ari_stress, man ifconfig
[04:57] <Dalgren> System>Administation>System Log....bruenig
[04:57] <RickJones> my evolution icon failed to load, is there a way to fizx that
[04:57] <bruenig> Dalgren, but what does it do
[04:57] <robby> bruenig!
[04:57] <ari_stress> bruenig: i know. but how to save them? ifconfig will be lost during reboot
[04:57] <Fezzler> gireesh: If you walk me thru use of vi I am very comfortable editing xorg.conf
[04:57] <gireesh> Fezzler: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:57] <mattycoze1> hay can someone help? I'm trying to get peerguardian to start up automatically without me having to punch in the root password on startup eachtime
[04:57] <arctanx> ari_stress: edit /etc/network/interfaces
[04:57] <phpwner> how do i run a set of commands at startup?
[04:57] <ari_stress> ok arctanx
[04:58] <arctanx> arctanx: I think man 5 interfaces has the info you need
[04:58] <Fezzler> gir: I love gedit.  I bet it will not load.  Let's see
[04:58] <iammisc> phwner: use the init script system
[04:58] <gireesh> Fezzler: do you have X running?
[04:58] <arctanx> phpwner: either create a script for the runlevel, or if you're lazy stick it in /etc/rc.local
[04:58] <phpwner> ok
[04:58] <mattycoze1> phpwner go System -> Preferences -> sessions
[04:58] <slickster> so, i typed in "sudo apt-get install wine" and it came back with a comment that said "Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obseleted, or is only avaiable from another source."
[04:58] <retour> How to copy cd using CD/DVD creator??? Havent seen more user unfrendly stuff in life
[04:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Fezzler: or try nano..
[04:58] <phpwner> do i have to name the file with a specific extension?
[04:58] <Jordan_U> arctanx, What other problems has he had and how did you fix them?
[04:58] <Jack_Sparrow> retour: try k3b
[04:59] <byrron> anyone here using ekiga now? getting "registration failed. not acceptable".
[04:59] <gireesh> Fezzler: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:59] <bruenig> retour, dd if=/dev/whatever of=whatever.iso ; cdrecord dev=/dev/whatever whatever.iso
[04:59] <retour> Will K3B work under gnome?
[04:59] <Jordan_U> retour, Yes
[04:59] <gireesh> retour: yes
[04:59] <bruenig> retour, take the cd out before doing the second one
[04:59] <n2diy> retour: yes
[04:59] <slickster> anyone know what i need to do now?
[04:59] <Jordan_U> retour, Any Gnome app will work in KDE and visa versa
[04:59] <mattycoze1> phpwner the program doesn't need an extension, as long as you can run it from the command prompt with that same command the same thing will happen automatically but on startup
[05:00] <Fezzler> Gtk-WARNING: ** Cannot open display.    I'll try nano
[05:00] <zhm> is there a way for ubuntu to scan for a hardware change? i need to install my on board broadcom wireless
[05:00] <robby> what type of apps can i make with Python?
[05:00] <arctanx> Jordan_U: First he installed binary drivers for desktop effects. That caused hard freezing. Fixed by removing the package, then manually editing xorg.conf to use "nv" again, then "HWCursor" "off" to stop the mouse turning invisible. He also had issues that old user accounts were getting white screens when logging in, we tried to fix that by recreating the account, but it stayed there, I told him to delete the home folder of the user, and th
[05:00] <arctanx> en adding the user wouldn't "stick", even though it was completely gone from /etc/passwd and shadow. so we created a user with a different name and that works.
[05:00] <Jordan_U> zhm, install bcm43xxfwcutter
[05:00] <retour> thank you! Going for K3B - have alergy to command line
[05:00] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[05:00] <dr_willis> zhm,  for a broadcom card. you will proiberly need to manually install the fwcutter (somthing like that)package. for the firmware for it.
[05:01] <zhm> it was detected during install
[05:01] <dr_willis> zhm,  may also need to do some other tweaking.
[05:01] <bruenig> robby, anything you can make with other languages pretty much, realizing of course that you need the python interpreter to run it
[05:01] <zhm> but i went with the nic card
[05:01] <dr_willis> zhm,  that dosent mean it has the firmware it needs. :)
[05:01] <Jack_Sparrow> !broadcom
[05:01] <zhm> np, researching it now
[05:01] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:01] <bruenig> robby, for instance, this is done in python: http://www.exaile.org/screenshots/7/exaile_large.jpg
[05:01] <Fezzler> gireesh: Okay, I'm in with nano.  Now what?
[05:01] <trelayne> kiefer,  thanks again, works like a charm
[05:01] <ari_stress> arctanx: ugh.. i guess the sytax of /etc/network/interfaces is very different than in redhat.. i'll google for it :D
[05:01] <Jordan_U> zhm, install bcm43xxfwcutter
[05:02] <arctanx> ari_stress: well the man page has all the info, but if you're after a quick fix, google has plenty on it
[05:02] <Jordan_U> zhm, That is all you need to do
[05:02] <mattycoze1> zhm tried the forums? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683
[05:02] <gireesh> Fezzler: go to the entry for Section "Device"
[05:02] <Fezzler> okay BRB
[05:02] <tojolabal_> #ubuntu-es
[05:02] <mattycoze1> zhm i have an acer laptop and got the broadcomm wireless card to work really good with that
[05:02] <bruenig> ari_stress, /et/network/interfaces is a distro specific thing
[05:03] <robby> wow thats a audio player?
[05:03] <Fezzler> I there.  Two entries.  Identifier and Driver.
[05:03] <zhm> do you happen to know under what category the bcm43xxfwcutter is in?
[05:03] <bruenig> robby, yeah, has lyrics tab wikipedia tab and all of that good stuff too
[05:03] <tojolabal_> your solution http://tojolabal.awardspace.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1&Itemid=2
[05:03] <Jordan_U> zhm, Try fwcutter before mattycoze1's link though, if you don't need to use NDIS wrapper you shouldn't
[05:03] <arctanx> Jordan_U: so yeah. a few voodoo fixes, as far as I can tell. Can you see how this problem could have come about?
[05:03] <Jordan_U> zhm, Just do a search for it
[05:03] <gireesh> Fezzler: which one has the nvidia entry?
[05:03] <mattycoze1> indeed :)
[05:03] <Fezzler> Driver
[05:04] <khin> hi, i recently downloaded a top 250 list for 90s music. however AFAIK rythmbox will separate this and make folders for each artist (with like 1 or 2 songs in each), which is not what i want. is there any way (or any other program) that will keep them all in one folder
[05:04] <gireesh> yes can you change that to nv
[05:04] <GiZiM> Howdy, Got a question can anybody suggest a program that i can use that can email me when a server goes down or is rebooted? Maybe something that has a webadmin interface?
[05:04] <robby> i dl IDLE Python, I wish i had a team to work with
[05:04] <sapu> how come my laptop doesn't shutdown everytime?
[05:04] <gireesh> i.e change nvidia to nv
[05:04] <Fezzler> Identifier looks like the Identifier I entered when I reinstalled xconfig.  Nvidia GeoForce 5500
[05:04] <mattycoze1> hay Jordan_U thanks for helping with my problem the otherday
[05:04] <arctanx> khin: amarok is a nice player that won't screw with your music locations
[05:04] <mattycoze1> worked like a charm
[05:04] <monkey_> 
[05:05] <dr_willis> !ch
[05:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:05] <Jordan_U> mattycoze1, No problem
[05:05] <Fezzler> gireesh: Done.  Should we turn off render acceleration?
[05:05] <khin> arctanx, but isnt that for KDE
[05:05] <zhm> damnit, couldn't fetch it
[05:05] <zhm> could not resolve us.archive.ubuntu.com
[05:05] <arctanx> khin: It uses those libraries, but it will run fine under gnome
[05:05] <sapu> how do you type in other languages in kubuntu?
[05:06] <robby> Wish i would of went to school for programming instead of computer eng.
[05:06] <dr_willis> robby,  learn to drive the big rigs!
[05:06] <dr_willis> :)
[05:06] <n2diy> sapu: system > pref > keyboard, then layout
[05:06] <Jordan_U> zhm, You need to connect to the internet wired for long enough for it to install.
[05:06] <bruenig> python is hard to read
[05:06] <vitamin__> Hello, I"m dualbooting XP and Ubuntu, and was wondering if there may be a way of disabling read/write to my Windows partition?
[05:06] <Fezzler> gireesh: Now what?
[05:06] <dr_willis> robby,  bah. anyone can program! :)
[05:06] <dr_willis> robby,  building the zombie robot slave is the fun part!
[05:06] <gireesh> save and exit
[05:06] <sapu> n2diy: will try
[05:06] <robby> dr_willis: like Mac trucks.
[05:06] <Jordan_U> zhm, Or I can give you a link to the firmware and you can put it on a removable media
[05:06] <robby> lol
[05:07] <byrron> monkey_: 
[05:07] <robby> zombie robot slave
[05:07] <gireesh> Fezzler: then type startx and see what happens
[05:07] <Fezzler> how do I save in nano?  ^S?
[05:07] <mattycoze1> i could do with one of those
[05:07] <Jordan_U> vitamin__, Do you mean enabling?
[05:07] <n2diy> ! cn | byrron
[05:07] <ubotu> byrron: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[05:07] <Fezzler> Ctrl S
[05:07] <gireesh> Fezzler: there is a bar at the bottom that tells you
[05:07] <zhm> Jordan, I am connected on wire
[05:07] <bruenig> Fezzler, ^X
[05:07] <zhm> i'm signed into gaim
[05:08] <vitamin__> Jordan_U: Nope, I mean disabling writing in particular, in case I run into malware or something
[05:08] <sapu> n2diy: doesn't work
[05:08] <zhm> nm, worked now
[05:08] <sapu> i can add other language layout
[05:08] <robby> ive worked in several lang and have tons of books, but those books give very lame examples and don't explain who cmmands are what they are
[05:08] <sapu> but
[05:08] <sapu> it doesn't change anything when i switch layout
[05:08] <Jordan_U> vitamin__, Yes you can, but run into malware on Linux?
[05:08] <Fezzler> Can I startx while I have Gaim session running in GNOME?
[05:09] <vitamin__> Jordan_U: Malware that might affect my XP partition
[05:09] <gireesh> Fezzler: no
[05:09] <byrron> ubotu: 
[05:09] <gireesh> it will complain
[05:09] <gireesh> exit out of GNOME. Hit CTRL-ALT-BKSPACE
[05:09] <khin> is it normal for a lot of torrents to be abysmally slow
[05:09] <n2diy> sapu: did you get a keyboard switcher icon on your tool bar?
[05:09] <gireesh> that will restart your x-server
[05:09] <Fezzler> So logout and okay
[05:09] <Jordan_U> vitamin__, Why would that make you want write support disabled in Ubuntu?
[05:09] <Fezzler> BRB
[05:09] <sapu> n2diy: yeah
[05:09] <gireesh> Fezzler: restart the x-server too
[05:09] <vitamin__> Jordan_U: I don't really know how they work, so I might be barking up the wrong tree ^___^;;
[05:09] <n2diy> sapu: and that doesn't work?
[05:09] <robby> like console.writeline() outputs to the console, but whats the code that makes it what it is?
[05:10] <sapu> n2diy: yeah, and i have the other languages installed already too
[05:10] <aznpridechinese> where do you set the splash screen on startup in gnome?
[05:10] <zhm> hmm,Jordan, once fwcutter is installed..next step?
[05:10] <Jarek> how do I add pidgin to my autostart list
[05:10] <vitamin__> Jordan_U: Not sure actually, I thought that might stop malware from changing anything that's on my XP system partition
[05:10] <khin> ive just started using BT and three out of four spiderman torrents i tried to download died or started going ridiculously slow halway through the download
[05:10] <ramseize> is anyone here?
[05:10] <bruenig> Jarek, system>preferences>sessions, or old school it and put it in your ~/.xinitirc
[05:10] <Jordan_U> vitamin__, You would want write support from Ubuntu so you could try to fix windows.
[05:10] <bruenig> Jarek, system>preferences>sessions, or old school it and put it in your ~/.xinitrc
[05:10] <mattycoze1> hi ramseize
[05:10] <n2diy> sapu: hmm, I don't know, I'm using gnome, have you tried asking in #kubuntu?
[05:10] <dr_willis> khin,  tryint to download the newest movie?
[05:11] <khin> spiderman 3 yes
[05:11] <ramseize> can anyone help   me, i cant install my ati radeon driver
[05:11] <Jordan_U> vitamin__, If you have malware on windows then hasn't it already changed things on your windows system partition ?
[05:11] <ramseize> mattycozel can you help me?
[05:11] <dr_willis> khin,  i would guess that most of those torrents are Fakes.. put out by the MPAA Spies.
[05:11] <zhm> dr_willis, i got fwcutter installed..next step would be?
[05:11] <Jarek> bruenig, got there, but what do i put in the command field
[05:11] <bruenig> Jarek, pidgin
[05:11] <Jordan_U> zhm, Use your card?
[05:11] <dr_willis> zhm,  run it? :) actually i though it ran and got the stuff allready...
[05:11] <sapu> n2diy: thx for helping i gotta go
[05:11] <arctanx> okay, Jordan_U, I have an error and backtrace for the X crash: http://pastie.caboo.se/77222
[05:11] <Jarek> that's it?
[05:11] <khin> dr_willis are you serious? well im on a university connection so i guess im safe?
[05:11] <dr_willis> ive just about given up on wireless... so.. :)
[05:12] <vitamin__> Jordan_U: oh I mean if I'm on the Internet while I"m on Ubuntu and d/l something (for example) or run into a worm that will affect my Windows partition
[05:12] <Jarek> bruenig, heh ok thanks then
[05:12] <dr_willis> khin,  Theres an artical on slashdot about the  various torrent spys and stuff.. being on a University connection makes you a BIGGER target.
[05:12] <gireesh> vitamin__: that is very very unlikely
[05:12] <ramseize> does anyone know how to intall or fixed a display driver like ati radeon on my ubuntu
[05:12] <Jordan_U> zhm, You may need to modprobe bcm43xx again, but it should do that at boot from now on
[05:12] <gireesh> you need to have read-write access to the windows partition
[05:12] <dr_willis> khin,  of course at a Uni.. ya could proberly swap disks faster then downloading stuff. :)
[05:12] <vitamin__> Jordan_U: Oh, ok, thanks ^__^  I was just a bit paranoid
[05:12] <robby> or system.appdomainsetup()  <----where is that?
[05:12] <gireesh> and then too an .exe will not run on Linux unless you try real hard
[05:13] <khin> dr_willis, but how can they know who is downloading behind the university connection
[05:13] <vitamin__> gireesh: Oh, ok, thanks ^___^I was just a bit paranoid
[05:13] <Godchaser> Does xchat for ubuntu support scripts? if so how do you apply them?
[05:13] <dr_willis> khin,  you aint been watching the various torrent/news/mpaa stuff lately on slash dot eh?
[05:13] <Jordan_U> vitamin__, The worm wouldn't affect Ubuntu, so just don't save it to your windows partition and run it from windows :)
[05:13] <dr_willis> khin,  they track down the ip to your room... i guess.
[05:13] <n2diy> khin: that is what the IT dept. is for.
[05:13] <zhm> wtf, where is this stuff hiding
[05:13] <vitamin__> Jordan_U: Ok, thanks
[05:13] <Jordan_U> vitamin__, np
[05:13] <robby> scripts for linux are great!
[05:13] <dr_willis> When i was at college we used C64's :)
[05:14] <dr_willis> Befor AOL was even around
[05:14] <Jack_Sparrow> dr_willis: I worked for Commodore back then..
[05:14] <vitamin__> ramseize: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver?highlight=%28radeon%29
[05:14] <dr_willis> Jack_Sparrow,  :) I have several C64's if you want some heh..
[05:14] <robby> whats mapergan?
[05:14] <dr_willis> Jack_Sparrow,  you are older then me! :)
[05:14] <n2diy> dr_willis: I'm jealous, I used to dream of owning a C-64.
[05:15] <ramseize> thanx vitamin__
[05:15] <bruenig> khin, most universities will have you login to some page the first time you connect on a particular mac address using some studentid or something, then whenever you connect again, it will tie your mac to you and remember what ip it gave you
[05:15] <dr_willis> n2diy,  the vice emulator is better.. too bad the ubuntu package has a bug in it - that makes it unuseable.
[05:15] <vitamin__> ramseize: np
[05:15] <jabickett52> Any one here use Devede?
[05:15] <ramseize> ok
[05:15] <dr_willis> n2diy,  I found one at a rummage sale - still shrinkwrapped for $5
[05:15] <Jack_Sparrow> dr_willis: They are becomming a cult in europe..  There is also a good emulator.. we can chat in offtopic sometime
[05:16] <dr_willis> Jack_Sparrow,  I got one of those C64 Joystick/game things the other day. :)
[05:16] <robby> dr_willis:  assuming your a dr. of health, what is mapergan my doctor gave it to me
[05:16] <jabickett52> I try to convert a movie to a dvd using devede and tell it to make an iso, and it doesn't actually make an iso...] 
[05:16] <dr_willis> Jack_Sparrow,
[05:16] <Fezzler> gireesh:
[05:16] <bruenig> jabickett52, don't click the mpg box
[05:16] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[05:16] <dr_willis> robby,  im a Dr of LOVE.. :)
[05:16] <jabickett52> oh?
[05:16] <Fezzler> That totally didn't work.
[05:16] <robby> lol
[05:16] <jabickett52> that will make it make the dvd?
[05:16] <dr_willis> robby,  theres web sites that let ya search that info however.
[05:16] <jabickett52> iso that is?
[05:16] <gireesh> Fezzler: what did it say?
[05:16] <robby> good point
[05:16] <bruenig> jabickett52, if you click only make complaint dvd mpeg, then it only makes the mpeg and then exits
[05:17] <jabickett52> oh?
[05:17] <Fezzler> I got some bluescreen that said Xconf was no good and asked if I wanted to see errors.  I said yes.
[05:17] <bruenig> as you might expect
[05:17] <n2diy> dr_willis: I found a a pallet load of them for $1 apeice, in 1990, ended up selling most of them for 13 cents/pound, but I kept two of them.
[05:17] <jabickett52> thanks
[05:17] <jabickett52> :)
[05:17] <Jack_Sparrow> dr_willis: My first job as a programmer was assy for the 6510
[05:17] <Fezzler> What I saw was "Unable to find vaild framebuffer device"
[05:17] <robby> it says for pain
[05:17] <Fezzler> "NV(0): Failed to open framebuffer device."
[05:18] <Fezzler> "Screen found, but none have usable configuration."
[05:18] <gireesh> Fezzler: try this command "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[05:18] <Fezzler> Also, when shutdown ran, I was seeing some failure for avahi-deamon
[05:18] <jabickett52> bruenig, I didn't have that clicked, I had it set to create iso
[05:19] <Fezzler> I had to use nano and change nv back to nvidia to get here again.
[05:19] <jabickett52> it get's done, it doesn't create the iso, it makes a folder with the dang files
[05:19] <Jordan_U> How do I use tesseract-ocr and / or how do I use any known good OCR program?
[05:19] <gireesh> Fezzler: unfortunately Ubuntu sucks for X configuration
[05:20] <gireesh> Fezzler: have you tested your memory sticks?
[05:20] <Fezzler> okay gireesh:  But I'm not sure I know all the right answers when manually running xserver.
[05:20] <`eric-> !torrent
[05:20] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt), rTorrent (C++) -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[05:20] <toddy> #ubuntu-cn
[05:20] <Fezzler> gireesh: yes
[05:20] <`eric-> !rTorrent
[05:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rtorrent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:20] <gireesh> no errors
[05:20] <gireesh> ?
[05:20] <jabickett52> I tried to make the iso manually using mkisofs -dvd-video ~/movie movie.iso or however and it wouldn't make it
[05:20] <Fezzler> yup
[05:20] <jabickett52> said the VIDEO_TS was setup wrong or something
[05:20] <gireesh> did you build the computer?
[05:20] <jabickett52> :(
[05:20] <Fezzler> all good 628 meg
[05:20] <gireesh> is the cpu overheating?
[05:20] <gireesh> is it an old computer?
[05:20] <khin> bruenig, so how would you recommend i pirate movies
[05:20] <gireesh> have you tried cleaning the dust off the fans etc?
[05:21] <Fezzler> gireesh: older, yes, but with new parts.  Overheat, no.
[05:21] <Fezzler> I will
[05:21] <gireesh> a hard lock almost always indicates a hardware problem
[05:21] <jabickett52> not pirating there khin, I'm converting home movies
[05:21] <greg> y guys I need some serious help
[05:21] <gireesh> Fezzler: try tunning gkrellm or some monitoring software to see what is happening
[05:21] <greg> my ubuntu isn't booting up
[05:21] <mattwj2005> hey everyone :)
[05:21] <Fezzler> Last thing I was doing before problem was messing with my Sound settings and learning recordmydesktop
[05:21] <Jordan_U> greg, What with?
[05:22] <greg> it starts up and runs fsck
[05:22] <Jordan_U> greg, Any errors?
[05:22] <bruenig> khin, I am not sure exactly how your university does it, but assuming it follows that model I talked about, what I would do is find someone you don't like, figure out there id and password, spoof your mac address and then sign in to the page that comes up everytime a new mac address is introduced as them, and then from then on when you want to pirate use the spoofed mac
[05:22] <gireesh> Fezzler: is it the latest version of nvidia driver?
[05:22] <aznpridechinese> how do i change color of text background and transparencies in gnome?
[05:22] <greg> then it says that fsck cannot repair the problem
[05:22] <n2diy> greg, that's why we're all here.
[05:22] <greg> that I have to manulaly run the check in maintainenece mode
[05:22] <greg> I do that
[05:22] <mattwj2005> well it isn't prefect but I have a "Big Desktop" using an old CRT and a TV :)
[05:22] <Fezzler> I also set my /home chmod 755 so my samba connection to vista pc was okay
[05:22] <greg> and I get the error "the program 'apt-get' is currently not installed
[05:22] <greg> and it goes to a command line....
[05:23] <greg> and that's it
[05:23] <Fezzler> gireesh:  I did "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and reran the nvidia drivers package earlier.
[05:24] <InHisName> Is SMB running when ubuntu is first started after installing ?  I want to copy from a shared dir from an XP machine.
[05:24] <Jordan_U> greg, It just gives that error without any prompt by you?
[05:24] <Fezzler> ALso, if it were hardware, why would all the apps BUT Application Places SYstem freeze?
[05:24] <greg> well yeah
[05:24] <greg> I don't do anything
[05:24] <aznpridechinese> gireesh are you having trouble installing nvidia driver?
[05:24] <Seeker> Hello is this a support forum?
[05:24] <greg> I just turn it on, it unsuccessfully runs fsck
[05:24] <Jordan_U> Seeker, Yes
[05:24] <greg> then it tells me to input my root password and logs into root
[05:24] <bruenig> khin, or alternatively if you don't think you can find the id and password, just find out there mac address, and spoof yours to have their mac address
[05:24] <greg> and tells me that apt no longer works
[05:24] <bruenig> their*
[05:24] <Seeker> Great. I'm new to Linux but I'm having difficulty burning avi files to cds
[05:25] <mattwj2005> I am hoping the next version of Ubuntu will have support for more than one display :)
[05:25] <Seeker> I've tried several different burning programs and none of them work
[05:25] <Fezzler> gireesh: In fact, I just click on Places and BAMP, frozen.  But gaim is still humming along.
[05:25] <Jordan_U> mattwj2005, It will :)
[05:25] <khin> bruenig, just curious is there any way in principle to see through a spoofed mac
[05:25] <Seeker> The file burns but it won't play on either a standalone divx player or XBMC
[05:25] <n2diy> ! twinview | mattwj2005
[05:25] <ubotu> mattwj2005: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[05:25] <Jack_Sparrow> jabickett52: try k9copy
[05:25] <Jordan_U> mattwj2005, It already does now ( and has since forever ) but in Gutsy it will be easy
[05:26] <Seeker> the burned side of the cds look different than if I were to burn them in Windows as well
[05:26] <greg> what brought this on was that I think I tried to install ICEWM
[05:26] <ari_stress> back
[05:26] <mattwj2005> yeah I got it to work all ready
[05:26] <Jordan_U> greg, It just gives that error about apt without any prompt by you?
[05:26] <mattwj2005> thanks anyways ubotu :)
[05:26] <bruenig> khin, not sure, I don't think so, they certainly wouldn't be able to do it on the scale of what they are doing, the thing which connects the mac to the person and the ip is a script and will not likely be doing that even if it were able to be done
[05:26] <greg> yeah
[05:26] <Fezzler> Is "Applications" "Places" "System" referred to as X server?  or are the Nautlius or GNOME.  I'm confused as to what is freezing on me?
[05:27] <kyle__> I'm running the high contrast inverse desktop theme - and certain things don't show up, like drop boxes on websites and incoming instant messages on gaim. how do I fix that?
[05:27] <toddy> My vsftp is autostart when PC is powered on!how to stop it autostarting?
[05:27] <`eric-> !torrent
[05:27] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt), rTorrent (C++) -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[05:27] <Fezzler> Trash still works :)
[05:27] <mattwj2005> yeah I can now have mythtv on one display and other stuff on my CRT
[05:27] <Varsendaggr>  hey are there any tetris games where the blocks settle after they fall...   ala tetris for xbox?
[05:28] <Seeker> anyone have experience with CD burning software for Ubuntu?
[05:28] <n2diy> kyle__: don't run inverse mode?
[05:28] <orbisvicis> anyone know how to control cairo-clock x/y position?
[05:28] <Fezzler> gireesh: Giving up on me?
[05:28] <Jordan_U> Fezzler, X is what let's you have a GUI, Gnome manages how windows are displayed in X, Nautilus is a file browser application
[05:28] <orbisvicis> i mean on startup, not by dragging it around, lol
[05:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Seeker: Yes, I use k3b
[05:28] <kyle__> n2diy, but I like it otherwise :(
[05:28] <nuke_> I just installed an rpm, however when I try and run it I get "error while loading shared libraries: libkdeui.so.4: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory", how can i reslove this please?
[05:29] <Jordan_U> !rpm | nuke_
[05:29] <ubotu> nuke_: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[05:29] <Seeker> Jack Sparrow when you burn a divx file does it then play on other systems such as a standalone divx player?
[05:29] <Megaqwerty> nuke_: you installed an rpm?
[05:29] <nuke_> argh
[05:29] <Shadow6363> Frogzoo, gonna laugh at this, but I finally got it all working, problem: Firestarter, thanks for all your help though
[05:29] <n2diy> kyle__: fine buisness, but how many webpages are designed to deal with it correctly?
[05:29] <Fezzler> Jordon?  So if I click on Places and everything on the top left menu system freezes, is that X server freezing?
[05:29] <Megaqwerty> nuke_: or was it converted from a .deb?
[05:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Seeker: I dont do the divix thing.. sorry..
[05:29] <nuke_> can ubuntu install .deb?
[05:29] <Megaqwerty> *to a .deb
[05:29] <Jordan_U> Fezzler, No
[05:29] <bruenig> nuke_, yes, don't install rpms
[05:29] <khin> how likely do you think it is that given i downloaded a bunch of fake Spiderman 3 torrents i will end up being sued
[05:29] <Megaqwerty> nuke_: that's the only thing it can install
[05:30] <Fezzler> Jordan: Then what
[05:30] <nuke_> oh ok i'll try the deb then, thanks
[05:30] <bruenig> nuke_, either install debs or compile, unless you absolutely can't find source or deb
[05:30] <bruenig> nuke_, what are you looking for
[05:30] <khin> more or less than 1 in 100 ?
[05:30] <Jordan_U> Fezzler, If everything on the screen freezes then X has frozen
[05:30] <Megaqwerty> nuke_: you're welcome.
[05:30] <nuke_> i cant compile, i keep getting "checking for X... configure: error: cant find X includes. please check your installation"
[05:30] <n2diy> kyle__: I like to configure my friends box to use white text, on a white backround, but for some reason, he doesn't like it?
[05:30] <Jack_Sparrow> nuke_: what are you trying to install.
[05:30] <dr_willis> khin,  not too likely.. but id avoide downloading torrents for movies that are IN the theaters. :)
[05:30] <cafuego> n2diy: Better is an error dialog screenshot as desktop background.
[05:31] <bruenig> nuke_, you need to install the x includes, some -dev package, I don't know why these distros split them up, it is retarded if you ask me, but tell me what you are trying to install, it might be in the repos
[05:31] <Fezzler> So X can freeze but the instance of Gaim I have going, Beryl, Network, Volume, Trash, Time can all keep working?
[05:31] <dr_willis> khin,  ask for friends to do so.. and get a copy from them. :) plus those copies always suck big time
[05:31] <kyle__> n2diy, some people are just too picky about not being able to see anything
[05:31] <nuke_> sourceforce.net/projects/msnshadow
[05:31] <Varsendaggr> hey anybody that likes Halflife CS  you should try Assaultcube
[05:31] <khin> yeah they arent so great. at 700 mb the picture is not stellar. often watchable though
[05:31] <Varsendaggr> a 19mb Download
[05:31] <n2diy> cafuego: :) I notice Ubuntu has a couple screen savers like that.
[05:31] <Jordan_U> Fezzler, No.
[05:31] <dr_willis> khin,  often the movie isent even watchable in the theater.. :)
[05:31] <khin> heh
[05:32] <Fezzler> Jordan: What do you mean "No" because that is the condition I have.
[05:32] <Jordan_U> Fezzler, Any terminal applications will continue to run fine but GUI apps won't
[05:32] <dr_willis> khin,  i perfer the classics 'Attack of the 50ft Woman' and so forth. :)
[05:32] <Jordan_U> Fezzler, Then X has not crashed
[05:32] <ramseize> can anyone help me, about my display driver please message me, its ati radeon x2300
[05:32] <cafuego> not quite as good as an applescript that says 'Tell Application "Finder" \ Shutdown Now \ End Tell' in the startup folder on a Mac.
[05:32] <nuke_> can I use apt-get to get the missing x includes?
[05:32] <n2diy> kyle__: right, and I think you maybe running in to something similar, by running inverse mode.
[05:33] <Megaqwerty> nuke_: yeah, probably.
[05:33] <Megaqwerty> nuke_: assuming they are in the repository.
[05:33] <nuke_> how do I find out what they are called?
[05:33] <Jordan_U> nuke_, What are you trying to install?
[05:33] <aznpridechinese> can anyone tell me how to set transparencies and text color etc in gnome?
[05:33] <nuke_> http://sourceforge.net/projects/msnshadow that
[05:33] <Fezzler> Jordan: Okay, now we are getting somewhere.  Okay.  Applications  Places  System, the three apps next to them and the desktop functions are frozen.
[05:33] <j_ack> Seeker, have you try it to burn as video CD   (VCD)
[05:33] <kyle__> n2diy, I'ma make it work
[05:33] <Megaqwerty> nuke_: just use the .deb they supplied
[05:34] <Fezzler> Gaim, Beryl, Network, Volume, Trash are all working.
[05:34] <ari_stress> is there any similar command like: yum search named in apt-get ?
[05:34] <n2diy> kyle__: Good Luck! :)
[05:34] <nuke_> ok i'll try that, use rpkg to install .deb right?
[05:34] <Fezzler> Jordan: So what is crashing/freezing?
[05:34] <Megaqwerty> nuke_: no, dpkg
[05:34] <kyle__> n2diy, <3
[05:34] <EdLin> ari_stress: apt-cache search
[05:34] <ramseize_> can anyone help me about my display driver, its "ati radeon x2300" please Private message me?
[05:34] <nuke_> oh maybe thats why it didnt work, lol thanks
[05:34] <Megaqwerty> nuke_: sudo dpkg -i name.deb
[05:34] <Seeker> j_ack I haven't tried that yet because I've found conversion tends to lower the quality.
[05:34] <ari_stress> thank you very much EdLin, cooll :D
[05:34] <Megaqwerty> nuke_: you're welcome.
[05:34] <youkilldkennedy> I'm having some trouble updating to 7.04 from 6.10...
[05:34] <Seeker> I think that for some reason I can't burn as DAO and that is what my other systems require
[05:35] <Varsendaggr> youkilldkennedy, no it was you and me
[05:35] <Jordan_U> youkilldkennedy, You mean 6.10 t0 7.04?
[05:35] <Fezzler> Jordan U:  This is a tough one, heh?  :)
[05:35] <Jordan_U> youkilldkennedy, Nvm, I misread :)
[05:35] <nuke_> ok that seemed to work, now when i type "msnshadow" to run it i get the error "error while loading shared libraries: libkdeui.so.4...." thing again, could that be because the rpm is still installed?
[05:35] <Seeker> the burnt part of the disc has about 5 visible concentric circles while when I burn in windows the disc is the same colour throughout
[05:35] <Jordan_U> youkilldkennedy, How are you trying to install and what errors are you getting?
[05:36] <youkilldkennedy> I'm installing by the update manager
[05:36] <Jordan_U> nuke_, Remove the rpm
[05:36] <youkilldkennedy> and it's giving me trouble looking for repos
[05:36] <novato_br> what is going on with my compiz fusion: "http://www.pastebin.ca/609878"?
[05:36] <nuke_> how do i do that? delete the .rpm file?
[05:36] <alecwh> I'm running Compiz Fusion, and I have it boot up on computer start. The only problem is, I need it to load up in indirect-rendering, for multiple reasons. Is there a way to accomplish this?
[05:37] <Megaqwerty> nuke_: how did you install the rpm?
[05:37] <Jordan_U> youkilldkennedy, What error are you getting?
[05:37] <j_ack> Seeker, plays your burned cd on computer?
[05:37] <Fezzler> gireesh, Jordan:  The issue must be gdm then, no?  Why wouldn't gedit run at command prompt and produce Gtk-WARNING?
[05:37] <youkilldkennedy> jordan_u, E: Malformed line 4 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/edgy-multiverse.list (dist parse)
[05:37] <Fezzler> That must tell us something?
[05:37] <nuke_> i dunno, if rpm doesnt work I might not actually have installed it
[05:38] <Seeker> j_ack it plays on my computer but nothing else (i.e. Xbox Media Centre, or a phillips divx player) recognizes the disc
[05:38] <youkilldkennedy> jordan_u, Could not update, must fix broken packages first.
[05:38] <nuke_> ive confused myself, but lets say it isnt installed currently, what can i do about this  libkdeui.so.4 error? what is it?
[05:38] <Jordan_U> youkilldkennedy, Why do you have a sources.list.d for a standard repo?
[05:39] <Jordan_U> youkilldkennedy, And can you pastebin its contents?
[05:39] <Megaqwerty> nuke_: well, you should have gotten a dpkg error if you had a missing dependency...but I'll look into it. give me a minute.
[05:39] <nuke_> ok thanks a ton man
[05:39] <bastid_raZor> or 1900 lbs
[05:40] <nuke_> isnt ton metric?
[05:40] <nuke_> or is that tonne?
[05:40] <j_ack> seeker, what is on the disc only a file or more
[05:40] <Megaqwerty> nuke_: Never was good at units, lol.
[05:40] <youkilldkennedy> jordan_U, whats the pastebin link, again?
[05:40] <Seeker> j_ack: just one file slightly under 700 megs
[05:40] <Jordan_U> !paste > youkilldkennedy
[05:40] <bastid_raZor> ton is standard (american)
[05:40] <alecwh> I have Compiz Fusion installed on my Machine, and it works awesome. However, I need to use Compiz Fusion with "indirect rendering". I have this set in my session manager (so it will boot on start) "compiz  --indirect-rendering ccp". However, it doesn't do it, and it renders with direct rendering. Is there a way I can change this?
[05:40] <n0kZ> o.O
[05:40] <n0kZ> im standard filipino
[05:41] <n0kZ> :o
[05:41] <j_ack> seeker is it a *.avi?
[05:41] <Jordan_U> alecwh, Try #compcomm or #ubuntu-effects
[05:41] <Seeker> yes
[05:41] <alecwh> Ok, will do Jordan_U.
[05:41] <youkilldkennedy> jordan_u, I have a sources.list and a sources.list.distUpgrade
[05:41] <iZen> im having issues installing some KDE themes in Kubuntu. I am downloading them from kde-look.org. What type of process do I need to take for them in Kubuntu? They are Gzip right now.
[05:41] <n2diy> Megaqwerty: , nuke_ , units is a very handy program to have on your box, might even answer the ton, tonne question?
[05:42] <Seeker> j_ack if I transfer the file to the hard disc of the Xbox it plays, but it won't read the same video from a disc burnt in ubuntu
[05:42] <Megaqwerty> n2diy: lol, thanks
[05:42] <Jordan_U> youkilldkennedy, The sources.list.distupgrade is probably from update-manager
[05:42] <j_ack> seeker so you have only a file but you need a complete infrastructure on the disc. Only a file cannot run
[05:43] <iZen> im having issues installing some KDE themes in Kubuntu. I am downloading them from kde-look.org. What type of process do I need to take for them in Kubuntu? They are Gzip right now.
[05:43] <Jordan_U> youkilldkennedy, Why do you have a sources.list.d for a standard repo ( multiverse )?
[05:43] <Jordan_U> youkilldkennedy, And can you pastebin its contents?
[05:43] <Seeker> j_ack, ok so how should I be burning it differently? Should I not be selecting data disc in k3b?
[05:43] <Jack_Sparrow> iZen: not all of those will work on all systems.. just drop tham onto the open theme manager..
[05:43] <Jack_Sparrow> night all
[05:44] <nuke_> whats the name of that IRC proggy that works straight from command line and looks like your in the movie "hackers" when your on IRC?
[05:44] <j_ack> Seeker, not data disc, you need somthing like video-disc.
[05:44] <youkilldkennedy> Jordan_U, I can't find a sources.list.d
[05:44] <willzzz> ubuntu kernel 2.6.20-16 (latest) boot fails suddenly
[05:44] <alecwh> Nobody seems to be answering in other channels... I have Compiz Fusion installed on my Machine, and it works awesome. However, I need to use Compiz Fusion with "indirect rendering". I have this set in my session manager (so it will boot on start) "compiz --indirect-rendering ccp". However, it doesn't do it, and it renders with direct rendering. Is there a way I can change this?
[05:44] <willzzz> when it gets to [   86.444000]  input: TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint as /class/input/input5
[05:44] <willzzz> all of a sudden it does nothing... i didn't change anything... this is on my t61... boots livecd fine but off HD both kernels fail even in recovery
[05:44] <Jordan_U> youkilldkennedy, You don't have a  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/edgy-multiverse.list ?
[05:45] <ubuntu_> ...
[05:45] <whta> is there a way to change my default music player? or if it's not default, then change whatever comes up when I click the "media" button my keyboard?
[05:45] <Seeker> j_ack, doesn't video disc convert it to a much lower quality vcd?
[05:46] <youkilldkennedy> jordan_u, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29180/
[05:46] <Jordan_U> !mediakeys | whta
[05:46] <ubotu> whta: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[05:46] <whta> ahh thank you, never saw that option before
[05:46] <j_ack> seeker i dont think so , but you must try it. Data-disc no way.
[05:47] <Seeker> j_ack, what program would I use for that? k3b?
[05:47] <Jordan_U> youkilldkennedy, Strange, I don't see anything wrong with it...
[05:47] <alecwh> I have Compiz Fusion installed on my Machine, and it works awesome. However, I need to use Compiz Fusion with "indirect rendering". I have this set in my session manager (so it will boot on start) "compiz --indirect-rendering ccp". However, it doesn't do it, and it renders with direct rendering. Is there a way I can change this?
[05:48] <j_ack> seeker i dont use k3b or so. But you can look in synaptic for vcdimager and vcdtools
[05:48] <InHisName> Is SMB running when ubuntu (gnome) is first started after installing ?  I want to copy a file from a shared dir from an XP machine.
[05:48] <Seeker> j_ack, thank you
[05:48] <dr_willis> InHisName,  samba is not installed or running by default
[05:48] <Jordan_U> youkilldkennedy, Although edgy-updates might be redundant
[05:48] <j_ack> Seeker, ok.
[05:48] <dr_willis> InHisName,  you need to isntall the package, edit the smb.conf file. and enable the home shares. (or other shares)
[05:49] <dr_willis> InHisName,  and also may want to do a 'sudo smbpasswd -a LINUXUSERNAME' to allow a user in
[05:49] <dr_willis> InHisName,  Ubuntu tends tobe locked down VERY strongly by default
[05:49] <Jordan_U> InHisName, Or you can right click a folder and choose share :)
[05:50] <alecwh> I have Compiz Fusion installed on my Machine, and it works awesome. However, I need to use Compiz Fusion with "indirect rendering". I have this set in my session manager (so it will boot on start) "compiz --indirect-rendering ccp". However, it doesn't do it, and it renders with direct rendering. Is there a way I can change this?
[05:50] <InHisName> dr_willis, does it start with a get- to install it ?
[05:50] <dr_willis> Jordan_U,  thats not setting up samba however. :)
[05:50] <Flannel> alecwh: #ubuntu-effects for compiz support, thanks
[05:50] <ari_stress> how do i activate the GUI in dapper?
[05:50] <dr_willis> !info samba
[05:50] <ubotu> samba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.24-2ubuntu1.2 (feisty), package size 3262 kB, installed size 7992 kB
[05:50] <dr_willis> InHisName,  sudo apt-get install samba samba-doc
[05:50] <alecwh> Flannel, nobody is there.
[05:50] <Jordan_U> dr_willis, It is if he tells it to use samba to share
[05:51] <Jordan_U> dr_willis, It even installs the packages and everything :)
[05:51] <Flannel> alecwh: Try #compiz-fusion then
[05:51] <whta> how do I change which application opens in the keyboard shortcuts editor? "open music player" doesn't open the player I want.
[05:51] <Flannel> ari_stress: Which CD did you use to install?  since a GUI installs by default on all except server version.
[05:51] <ari_stress> Flannel: i use the alternate cd, is there any gui in the cd?
[05:52] <InHisName> dr_willis,  what does the samba-doc on end of command do ?
[05:52] <Flannel> ari_stress: The alternate CD can install both a text-mode only (server edition) and a GUI (the normal install
[05:52] <dr_willis> InHisName,  installs the samba-doc package for you to then have some books to read all about samba. :)
[05:52] <Flannel> ari_stress: But the installation is textmode only.  But you are installing a GUI system
[05:52] <dr_willis> 2 whole books.. in html format. :)  worth reading
[05:52] <ari_stress> Flannel: actually i don't need gui, if apt-get will ask me for some setup if installing certain packages such as libnss-ldap
[05:53] <ari_stress> Flannel: the tutorial i'm reading is suggesting me to use synaptic to install things, so that it will ask for some additional info to set things up
[05:53] <Flannel> ari_stress: Oh, uh, all package managers will ask you stuff if synaptic does
[05:54] <ari_stress> Flannel: i'll try from CLI
[05:54] <arrrghhh>  can anyone help me fix a bunk install of vmware-server?  every time i try to uninstall & reinstall it, the installer halts
[05:54] <gregorygreg> t
[05:54] <InHisName> I am off to install samba etc.
[05:54] <gregorygreg> cout
[05:54] <gregorygreg> hello
[05:54] <gregorygreg> how can I change my window manager?
[05:55] <dr_willis> gregorygreg,   You mean the gnome window manager.. or the whole desktop? from say gnome to kde?
[05:55] <arrrghhh> gregorygreg, just install a new one and logout, then go to 'sessions' and pick the new one you installed
[05:55] <gregorygreg> no just the window manager
[05:55] <gregorygreg> I don't like the interface that ubuntu comes with
[05:55] <dr_willis> gregorygreg,  you want to replace gnomes metacity with a different window manager eh?
[05:55] <gregorygreg> yeah
[05:56] <gregorygreg> maybe afterstep
[05:56] <dr_willis> interface? clarify that remark.. you are sort of saying different things..
[05:56] <bruenig> gregorygreg, yeah gnome is a pretty ugly you can try xfce or kde or a window manager
[05:56] <Jordan_U> arrrghhh, The vmware-install.pl script really is meant to be interactive, I recommend ( and this is an exception for me ) to not install from the repos and install from the vmware installer
[05:56] <gregorygreg> I'm gonna try a window manager first
[05:56] <dr_willis> gregorygreg,  sudo apt-get install windowmaker, then select windowmaker at the GDM login screen
[05:56] <gregorygreg> yeah
[05:56] <Art_> Anyone had experience with Ubuntu-Ultimate?
[05:56] <gregorygreg> ubuntu-ultimate? what is that?
[05:56] <bruenig> !offtopic | Art_ gregorygreg
[05:56] <ubotu> Art_ gregorygreg: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:56] <dr_willis>  gregorygreg  you are confusing 'window manager' with 'desktop enviroment'  :)
[05:56] <Flannel> Art_: don't use it.  It's a pathetic hack
[05:56] <Jordan_U> Art_, It seems a little immature to me
[05:56] <arrrghhh> Jordan_U, well i've used the vmware-uninstall.pl and it doesn't work real well...
[05:56] <gregorygreg> well I mean
[05:57] <bruenig> dr_willis, unless he doesn't like the panels, it ends up being the same thing
[05:57] <gregorygreg> I odn't like the pantls
[05:57] <dr_willis> bruenig,   ive done that befor. :)
[05:57] <gregorygreg> I don't like the panels
[05:57] <Jordan_U> arrrghhh, I am not liking their perl scripts in general, they are not very robust
[05:57] <gregorygreg> I want like resizable kicker menus or something
[05:57] <bruenig> gregorygreg, then you want to throw away gnome al together
[05:57] <dr_willis> gregorygreg,  theres 12+ differnet window managers,, and 3+ or so desktop enviroments to use...
[05:57] <Flannel> Art_: Ubuntu has 95% of what it installs in the repos anyway, and it includes some not-good stuff
[05:57] <gregorygreg> yeah
[05:57] <dr_willis> gregorygreg,  ya could always install kde. or xfce also
[05:57] <gregorygreg> gnome kde xfce
[05:58] <gregorygreg> what does a window manager do?
[05:58] <therealnanotube> could someone please tell me about ubuntu package versioning conventions. e.g, if i have something with Version: "4.19-1ubuntu2.1", i understand that 4.19 is the actual software version, but what's the 1ubuntu2.1 stand for?
[05:58] <arrrghhh> Jordan_U, yea... do you know how i can fix a broken install tho?  i ran into the same issue on my work box, but i fixed it...
[05:58] <bruenig> fluxbox openbox blackbox icewm evilwm
[05:58] <dr_willis> a window manager is part of the desktop enviroment.
[05:58] <dr_willis> its what  manages the windows.. thats all.. not the panels. or desktop icons.. just the windows.. :)
[05:58] <dr_willis> other parts/tools controll the other bits
[05:58] <gregorygreg> hmm
[05:58] <bruenig> gregorygreg, metacity is a window manager, gnome is a desktop environment
[05:58] <dr_willis> metacity is gnomes default window manager
[05:58] <Jordan_U> arrrghhh, Fix or remove? I can probably help with the latter more easily than former
[05:58] <bruenig> xfwm4 is a window manager, xfce is a DE
[05:59] <alecwh> I have Compiz Fusion installed on my Machine, and it works awesome. However, I need to use Compiz Fusion with "indirect rendering". I have this set in my session manager (so it will boot on start) "compiz --indirect-rendering ccp". However, it doesn't do it, and it renders with direct rendering. Is there a way I can change this?
[05:59] <arrrghhh> Jordan_U, well remove with the intent to reinstall...
[05:59] <akio> how do i get my fonts to be clearer? (cleartype)
[05:59] <bruenig> alecwh, #ubuntu-effects
[05:59] <gregorygreg> metacity is what happens when i right click the titlebar of a window?
[05:59] <gregorygreg> or alt-tab?
[05:59] <bruenig> gregorygreg, both
[05:59] <gregorygreg> word
[05:59] <gregorygreg> anything else?
[05:59] <Art_> Flannel, Not good?  Like what?
[06:00] <gregorygreg> can I install xfce on ubuntu or do I have to use xubuntu?
[06:00] <bruenig> greg, the title bar, the close maximize minimize buttons
[06:00] <Bassetts> gregorygreg, you can install xfce on ubuntu
[06:00] <bruenig> gregorygreg, sudo apt-get install xfce4
[06:00] <bruenig> !info xfce4
[06:00] <ubotu> xfce4: meta-package for xfce4 dependencies. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.3.99.1 (feisty), package size 4 kB, installed size 48 kB
[06:01] <bruenig> one of those stupid meta packages
[06:01] <dr_willis> gregorygreg,  this is linux.. Of course you can. :)
[06:01] <gregorygreg> ha true
[06:01] <gregorygreg> thanks for your help guys
[06:01] <Alias2> Sup guys?
[06:01] <dr_willis> xubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop :)
[06:01] <gregorygreg> will I run into any problems using programms made for kde or gnome?
[06:01] <dr_willis> gregorygreg,  i never have
[06:01] <arrrghhh> Jordan_U, do you think you could help me remove vmware completely?  maybe then i can reinstall...
[06:01] <dr_willis> i mixx and match them all
[06:01] <bruenig> gregorygreg, so long as the libs are installed it doesn't matter
[06:01] <gregorygreg> I know cause amarok runs poorly on my gnome desktop
[06:01] <gregorygreg> it crashes constantly
[06:01] <gregorygreg> actually my computer has been crashing a lot as of late
[06:01] <Alias2> I have one thing to say.
[06:01] <gregorygreg> not really sure what that's about
[06:02] <Flannel> Art_: Well, automatix for one
[06:02] <akio> is there a cleartype alternative?
[06:02] <Alias2> Thats to the dev team @ Ubuntu for pulling me away from Windows.....
[06:02] <gregorygreg> automatix messes up dependencies doesn't it?
[06:02] <dr_willis> DONT use automatix :) no need for it
[06:02] <gregorygreg> yeah exactly
[06:02] <gregorygreg> alright I'll brb
[06:02] <Art_> Flannel, OK, I happen to like automatix.
[06:02] <arrrghhh> yea, just use synaptic
[06:02] <betamike> gregorygreg: might want to try exaile, its a gtk app similar to amarok
[06:02] <gregorygreg> yeah
[06:02] <DarkFame> there is a reason automatix never got accepted into Ubuntu as default
[06:02] <MajorPayne> !automatix
[06:02] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[06:03] <Flannel> therealnanotube: http://www.ducea.com/2006/06/17/ubuntu-package-version-naming-explanation/
[06:03] <dr_willis> Of course im using "Linux Mint" right now. :P
[06:03] <arrrghhh> betamike, does that allow for ipod uploading?
[06:03] <arrrghhh> or syncing i should say
[06:03] <Flannel> Art_: automatix is dangerous and error prone.
[06:03] <DarkFame> dr_willis, what do you think about it?
[06:03] <betamike> arrrghhh: Not really sure, I haven't tried it myself.
[06:03] <aznpridechinese> what is the gnome equivalent to karchiver?
[06:03] <arrrghhh> hrm
[06:03] <arrrghhh> okie
[06:03] <Art_> Flannel, I haven't had any problems with it.
[06:03] <Flannel> !worksforme | Art_
[06:03] <arrrghhh> i like amarok, haven't had any issues with it.  other than my gigantic music library xferin to the ipod
[06:03] <ubotu> Art_: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[06:04] <aznpridechinese> cuz the gnome zip program doesn't give me the option to extract files to where i want it
[06:04] <akio> betamike: is there a cleartype alternative?
[06:04] <bruenig> aznpridechinese, file roller perhaps, don't know what karchiver is, I would just use tar and unzip and unrar etc
[06:04] <Art_> Flannel, But thanks for the warning.
[06:04] <dr_willis> DarkFame,  i like it. :)  got it on 3 machines right now.. it needs a little more work.. but has some nice features.
[06:04] <betamike> akio: not much of a fonts guy, not really sure, sorry.
[06:04] <aznpridechinese> how do i unzip a tar.gz file to a specific directory in gnome GUI?
[06:04] <DarkFame> dr_willis, ok.. cool.. which nice features... mint specific?
[06:04] <Flannel> Art_: shrug.  There's *nothing* in the ultimate edition that isn't available to normal Ubuntu.  However, if you're using it, don't come here for support.
[06:05] <DarkFame> Flannel, ultimate edition?
[06:05] <Art_> Flannel, Is there a chat for it?
[06:05] <aznpridechinese> bruenig, how do i unzip a tar.gz to a specific directory of my choice in gnome GUI?
[06:05] <bruenig> aznpridechinese, just use tar, tar xf -C /specific/directory whatever.tar.gz
[06:05] <awerner32> has anybody tried ubuntu ultimate?
[06:05] <MajorPayne> !worksforme | Art_
[06:05] <ubotu> Art_: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[06:05] <therealnanotube> Flannel: thanks, i'll look at that. :)
[06:05] <arrrghhh> Art_, you know it's beta rigtht?
[06:05] <Flannel> Art_: I don't know.  You'd have to check it's webpage for where it's supported.
[06:05] <aznpridechinese> thanks
[06:05] <Flannel> DarkFame: aye, not supported here (nor is automatix, for that matter)
[06:06] <Art_> Sorry I bothered you folks, thanks for your help.
[06:06] <dr_willis> !info unp
[06:06] <ubotu> unp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.10 (feisty), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB
[06:06] <bruenig> !thanks | Art_
[06:06] <ubotu> Art_: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[06:06] <Hi67> Hey this is my first time using ubuntu and during the livecd install I get this: http://img512.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ubuntunx6.jpg --- Any ideas? I've checked the cd itself on another machine and it worked fine.
[06:06] <betamike> I'm having a strange issue with my wireless card.  I recently had to a fresh install, and now my ipw3945 is loaded instead of ipw220 (my card is a 2915ABG).  this wouldn't be a problem except it doesn't allow my wifi led to function. I've modprobed ipw2200 and everything works, how do I make sure ipw2200 is loaded a boot, not the other?
[06:06] <bruenig> is unp just a bash script, I think I could replicate it with a bash script
[06:07] <DarkFame> Flannel, whats ultimate edition?
[06:07] <Bassetts> Hi67, its hard to see what that is a picture of
[06:07] <arrrghhh> DarkFame, google it, it's a hacked beta of feisty
[06:07] <aznpridechinese> what if that directory hasn't been created?
[06:07] <Hi67> its just a tan background with a mouse and some corrupted looing pixels in the center
[06:07] <bruenig> aznpridechinese, create it
[06:07] <gregorygreg> hmm
[06:07] <dr_willis> bruenig,  not sure.. but its darn handy
[06:07] <gregorygreg> xfce is cool
[06:07] <gregorygreg> more customizable than gnome
[06:07] <Bassetts> Hi67, what graphics card do you have
[06:08] <bruenig> dr_willis, well check it out do "file /usr/bin/unp"
[06:08] <Flannel> DarkFame: it's some edition that some random guy out there puts out.  Basically takes ubuntu, rolls a bunch of stuff into it preisntalled, and then releases it to the unsuspecting public.
[06:08] <aznpridechinese> i can't, it's this weird directory for gkrellm a theme directory called .gkrellm2/themes
[06:08] <Hi67> Gforce 7800 GT
[06:08] <awerner32> has anybody tried it
[06:08] <dr_willis> bruenig,  /usr/bin/unp: perl script text executable
[06:08] <Hi67> GeForce*
[06:08] <aznpridechinese> and when i tried to create it it shows a weird type of file that i can't delete
[06:08] <ws2> surabaya
[06:08] <bruenig> dr_willis, perl yeah same difference
[06:09] <dr_willis> bruenig,  i perfer REXX ! :)
[06:09] <arrrghhh> can anyone help me completely remove vmware-server?  i can't seem to reinstall it
[06:09] <lkthomas> guys, anyone try to setup ntp server ?
[06:10] <Flannel> lkthomas: https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/server/C/NTP.html  I suggest ntpd over ntpdate
[06:10] <arctanx> Well for anyone who was following my rambles earlier, I think the issue was some junk left over from the binary drivers in xorg.conf, so I got my friend to regenerate a new xorg.conf using Xorg -configure, which hopefully will fix the issue.
[06:10] <Redimere> Halp me!
[06:11] <Redimere> I broke Xorg!
[06:11] <lkthomas> thanks, let me read
[06:11] <betamike> anyone know how to set ipw2200 to load at boot, rather than ipw3945? my card is better supported by ipw2200, but the other is loading.
[06:11] <arctanx> Redimere: you'd better have a better description of how it's broken than that
[06:11] <Bassetts> what do people think would be better for my mother to make her transition to linux with, ubuntu or xubuntu?
[06:11] <khin> hi i just downloaded amarok. but when i try to play anything it says 'amarok cannot play mp3' files. ok fair enough. so i say, install support for mp3. and then it does nothing. i have the codecs for mp3 on rythmbox
[06:11] <clever> betamike: add one to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and the other to /etc/modules
[06:11] <lkthomas> Flannel: it does not tell me how to setup ntp server for my lan
[06:11] <clever> betamike: the blacklist marks it as to not autoload
[06:12] <clever> betamike: the other marks it to autoload allways
[06:12] <arrrghhh> Redimere, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[06:12] <betamike> clever: alright thanks.  I was looking around in the blacklist file, but wasn't sure where to add the other.  that clears it up
[06:12] <mateiru> hello
[06:12] <clever> :)
[06:13] <arrrghhh> Redimere, make sure you choose the right choices for your setup
[06:13] <DarkPontiac> Alrightly so i have tried all the noapic or noacpi and none of them keep the cpu fan running...
[06:13] <mateiru> how would you compare vista to ubuntu 7.04
[06:13] <dr_willis> mateiru,  vista is so... nasty its scary...
[06:14] <dr_willis> but thats all for #off-topic :)
[06:14] <arrrghhh> mateiru, i wouldn't ask that question...
[06:14] <Flannel> lkthomas: ntpd is a ntp server
[06:14] <n2diy> mateiru: I wouldn't, haven't run winders since 95.
[06:14] <MajorPayne> Random question.  What does that phigh option do.  man dpkg-reconfigure then /phigh returns no results.
[06:14] <gregorygreg> how can I configure my desktop so that there is alwayas a little toolbarthat displays a terminal?
[06:14] <arrrghhh> phigh auto configures the most common options
[06:14] <DarkPontiac> is there anything else i can try to fix this? My PC is a Imperial GL-VE Celeron 1.8 ghz. Cpu fan stops for no reason when booting into ubuntu
[06:14] <clever> MajorPayne its probly -phigh
[06:14] <dr_willis> isent that -p -h -i -g -h ?
[06:14] <arrrghhh> MajorPayne, so it only asks you like 3 questions, all about your video card & resolutions
[06:15] <arrrghhh> dr_willis, no it's -phigh...
[06:15] <mateiru> apparantley vista is a resource hog, how about ubuntu with beryl on it
[06:15] <MajorPayne> arrrghhh: Ok.  Should it not be in the man page?
[06:15] <clever> dr_willis i think the -p is followed by a word argument like -plow or -phigh
[06:15] <arrrghhh> MajorPayne, i have no idea
[06:15] <Bassetts> what do people think would be better for my mother to make her transition to linux with, ubuntu or xubuntu?
[06:15] <crimsun> MajorPayne: it is. /priority
[06:15] <khermans> how can i resolve "E: Couldn't configure pre-depend coreutils for debianutils, probably a dependency cycle."
[06:15] <tonic-pushcart> DarkPontiac: It is likely that the BIOS is using a variable cpu fan speed control. Turn this off and it will solve your problem.
[06:15] <gregorygreg> kubuntu
[06:15] <clever>        -pvalue, --priority=value
[06:15] <clever>            Specify the minimum priority of question that will be displayed.  dpkg-reconfigure normally shows low priority questions no matter what your default priority
[06:15] <gregorygreg> kubuntu looks more like windows
[06:15] <clever>            is. See debconf(7) for a list.
[06:15] <clever> MajorPayne: it is in the man page
[06:15] <gregorygreg> bassets
[06:16] <Flannel> Bassetts: probably Ubuntu or Kubuntu.  I'd suggest the former, since you get more support for it
[06:16] <gregorygreg> yeah
[06:16] <neta3> How do I add the full path ("/temp/x/") of a binary file's located working directory to the enviornment.  Example, program x is run, but terminates prematurely because /temp/x/stub/file-stub file was not found in the current working directory.
[06:16] <gregorygreg> ubuntu has more support but kubuntu looks more like windows
[06:16] <khermans> i see the APT dependency cycle using --> aptitude reinstall ~i~Afeisty
[06:16] <DarkPontiac> no it is turned off. The only thing on is the Fault detection, which tells the bios if the fan goes below a certian rpm, shut down. i even tried to turn that off but no go
[06:16] <gregorygreg> does anyone here have experiecne using xfce?
[06:16] <Bassetts> thanks Flannel, support is not such a big issue for me, I am just thinking what would be easier for her
[06:16] <gregorygreg> info xfce
[06:16] <gregorygreg> info krellm
[06:16] <khermans> gregorygreg, yes, try #xubuntu
[06:16] <gregorygreg> !info xfce
[06:16] <ubotu> Package xfce does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:16] <gregorygreg> ok
[06:16] <MajorPayne> clever: Yea.  I see it now.  I searched for phigh exactly.  It's under pvalue or -priority.
[06:17] <lkthomas> Flannel: nono, I mean, I can't make it working
[06:17] <Flannel> Bassetts: I imagine they'd both be about the same.  If she does Kubuntu, she might be overwhelmed by config stuff (although, that's unlikely).  But, neither of them would necessarilybe difficult.  Once she's familiar with either of them, she'll be fine
[06:17] <aznpridechinese> does anyone know how to remove a file that starts like this? .xxxx
[06:17] <dr_willis> aznpridechinese,  use mc. or quote  the name
[06:17] <DarkPontiac> the only thing that seems to work is having "acpi=off" on the boot line but then the internet doesn't work
[06:18] <dr_willis> rm '.xxx'
[06:18] <Bassetts> thanks Flannel I will probably stick her on ubuntu or xubuntu, former because I run it, later because I want to mess about with it
[06:18] <aznpridechinese> what is mc?
[06:18] <dr_willis> !info mc
[06:18] <Gnea> hey everyone, when i go to apt-get install anything, i get a message about how the packages aren't signed - i can't remember the process to re-enable the package signature.
[06:18] <aznpridechinese> i'm a linux noob
[06:18] <willzzz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/124841 can anyone help!?
[06:18] <dr_willis> a file manager
[06:18] <ubotu> mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-7ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2057 kB, installed size 5944 kB
[06:18] <dr_willis> worth getting/learning
[06:18] <Flannel> lkthomas: Did you uncomment the broadcast thing in /etc/ntp.conf?
[06:18] <dr_willis> :) can save your backside at times
[06:18] <Pie-rate> oops accidentally ran find / -type f -execdir shred -u {} +
[06:18] <Pie-rate> fortunately i didn't do it as root and i caught it before it got to /home
[06:18] <lkthomas> Flannel: trying bcast method, wait
[06:18] <arrrghhh> can anyone help me completely remove vmware?
[06:19] <arrrghhh> i can't reinstall it, i keep getting errors
[06:19] <khermans> crimsun, got any tips for aptitude reinstall ~i~Afeisty resulting in "E: Couldn't configure pre-depend coreutils for debianutils, probably a dependency cycle."
[06:19] <aznpridechinese> thing is it doesn't even display that file in CLI
[06:19] <lkthomas> Flannel: how could I know if bcast is working ?
[06:19] <aznpridechinese> but it displays it on my desktop
[06:19] <dr_willis> aznpridechinese,  try ls -al
[06:20] <dr_willis>  aznpridechinese  . is used to sort of 'hide' files
[06:20] <dr_willis> Bash 101 :)
[06:20] <Flannel> lkthomas: try it from another box?
[06:20] <lkthomas> Flannel: I am
[06:20] <Flannel> lkthomas: you'll need to restart ntpd after changing the config, remember.
[06:20] <aznpridechinese> ls -al doesn't show it either
[06:21] <aznpridechinese> plus in GUI i did a property check on it and it says the permissions of "file" could not be determined
[06:21] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaa> which ISO I shall download and install on my Core.Duo.2.T5500 notebook? i386 or x86_64?
[06:21] <bruenig> i386
[06:21] <lkthomas> Flannel: well, I did as well
[06:21] <lkthomas> hmm
[06:22] <khermans> aaaaaaaaaaaaaa, x86_64
[06:22] <lkthomas>  9 Jul 20:20:36 ntpd[24075] : synchronized to 192.168.1.1, stratum 4
[06:22] <lkthomas>  9 Jul 12:21:54 ntpd[24075] : time reset -28721.494814 s
[06:22] <lkthomas>  9 Jul 12:21:54 ntpd[24075] : kernel time sync enabled 0001
[06:22] <bruenig> there is no reason to install x86_64
[06:22] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaa> T5500 is not 64bit CPU?
[06:22] <khermans> aaaaaaaaaaaaaa, if you are a n00b, go with i386
[06:22] <lkthomas> :)
[06:22] <bruenig> aaaaaaaaaaaaaa, reverse compatible it is
[06:22] <bruenig> backwards*
[06:22] <khermans> bruenig, corrected yourself you have
[06:23] <greg0rygreg> !channels
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[06:23] <bruenig> I didn't intend inverse structure, I just didn't want to arrow over and insert
[06:23] <greg0rygreg> !list
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[06:23] <Redimere> !noob
[06:23] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[06:23] <Redimere> he's  a nice bot.
[06:23] <bruenig> good he didn't say gtfo
[06:24] <einar_>  hallo
[06:24] <r0b-> !gtfo
[06:24] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:24] <akros> what the hell does 'jfgi' stand for?
[06:24] <DShepherd> akros, google?
[06:24] <novato_br> !driver
[06:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about driver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:25] <khermans> is it possible to use a computer without the internet?
[06:25] <bruenig> lol
[06:25] <arrrghhh> lmao
[06:25] <DShepherd> khermans, the last time i checked it was
[06:25] <arrrghhh> DShepherd, that's a double whammy
[06:25] <novato_br> dudes driver nvidia for 6150 , what is the driver name ?
[06:25] <bruenig> so we can do !gfto | person to fire off the language warning
[06:25] <bruenig> awesome
[06:25] <arrrghhh> "
[06:25] <arrrghhh> 
[06:25] <arrrghhh> +
[06:25] <arrrghhh> oops sorry
[06:25] <khermans> novato_br, nvidia
[06:26] <einar_> talar einhver slenzku hr?
[06:26] <pyrotix_> making an html document in quanta: table is being rendered at the middle of a page as opposed to the top. How do I move it to the top, or what channel would I go to have a better chance of getting an answer?
[06:26] <novato_br> yep, khermans
[06:26] <arrrghhh> can someone help me reinstall vmware-server?
[06:26] <khermans> arrrghhh, use the commercial repository
[06:26] <novato_br> i want  driver to nvidia card
[06:26] <arrrghhh> khermans, que?
[06:26] <Redimere> !fglrx
[06:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:26] <novato_br> my nvidia card is geforce 6150
[06:26] <khermans> novato_br, nvidia-glx or friends
[06:26] <sylvisj> ok, seriously need some nvidia help
[06:26] <arrrghhh> khermans, the installer keeps halting on me
[06:26] <novato_br> i dunno about this, khermans
[06:26] <sylvisj> Dunno what happened, but I need to clean the drivers and reinstall
[06:26] <novato_br> but card is onboard
[06:26] <sylvisj> something is royally fubared
[06:27] <khermans> arrrghhh, the commercial repository/
[06:27] <Gnea> hey everyone, when i go to apt-get install anything, i get a message about how the packages aren't signed - i can't remember the process to re-enable the package signature. something like  gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 2D230C5F ; gpg --export 084750FC01A6D388A643D869010908312D230C5F | sudo apt-key add - ?
[06:27] <tonic-pushcart> sylvisj: What is the problem?
[06:27] <sylvisj> well, X fails to start with an nvidia driver error, one sec and I'll have it for you
[06:27] <arrrghhh> khermans, how do you setup the commercial repo?
[06:28] <aznpridechinese> how do i undo something i removed in CLI?
[06:28] <sylvisj> unable to load the nvidia glx module
[06:28] <sylvisj> and failed to initialize the kernel module
[06:28] <greg0rygreg> what is the actual command to run the terminal?
[06:28] <darwin81> I'm want to set up a Xubuntu install. I want to use a 10GB drive as the "/" partition and two other drives as one big partition for "/home". How can I do this?
[06:28] <khermans> arrrghhh, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-vmware-server-from-canonical-commercial-repository-in-ubuntu-feisty.html
[06:28] <aznpridechinese> rm -rf file
[06:29] <aznpridechinese> it's a file that starts with x
[06:29] <Dalgren> where and how do I get to System Log files to delete them?
[06:29] <aznpridechinese> with . i meant
[06:29] <tonic-pushcart> sylvisj: so you are in x with vesa or nv driver at the moment
[06:29] <khermans> darwin81, #xubunut
[06:29] <khermans> darwin81, #xubuntu
[06:29] <dr_willis> aznpridechinese,  if you used 'rm' thers no easy way to undelete  somthing
[06:29] <sylvisj> tonic-pushcart: I'm on irssi in a console
[06:29] <Nutubuntu> How do I know which Nvidia driver I should be using -- "nvidia" or "nvidia-glx" ? I have a 6150 onboard video
[06:29] <n2diy> Dalgren: /var/logs
[06:29] <aznpridechinese> then what is the uneasy way?
[06:29] <dr_willis> aznpridechinese,  may not even be doable.
[06:29] <khermans> !nvidia | Nutubuntu
[06:29] <ubotu> Nutubuntu: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:29] <Dalgren> enter that where, n2diy?
[06:30] <tonic-pushcart> sylvisj: is the nvidia module loading?  as in modprobe nvidia
[06:30] <sylvisj> aznpridechinese: uhm, you're gonna need some serious disk recovery tools
[06:30] <sylvisj> tonic-pushcart: yes'
[06:30] <Nutubuntu> t/y khermans - I'll read that :)
[06:30] <tonic-pushcart> okay
[06:30] <Jack_Sparrow> darwin81: Are you trying to use two different physical drives for home?
[06:30] <n2diy> Dalgren: That is the path to your logs.
[06:30] <darwin81> khermans, there's not many people in #xubuntu and the partitioning doesn
[06:30] <darwin81> change if you use different WM
[06:30] <sloter> _o/
[06:30] <novato_br> my video card is geforce 6150, it is legacy ?
[06:30] <khermans> darwin81, ok are you having an issue with partitioning?
[06:30] <tonic-pushcart> sylvisj: and nvidia-glx is also installed   -- just covering the bases first
[06:31] <dr_willis> novato_br,  nvidia-glx should work.
[06:31] <sylvisj> tonic-pushcart: it should have been, the installer doesn't seem to have done it right
[06:31] <khermans> novato_br, it is listed in that link i sent you
[06:31] <khermans> novato_br, you have to look it up
[06:31] <sylvisj> and I just modprobe -r'd the nvidia module and tried remodprobing it, said it couldn't be found
[06:31] <dr_willis> novato_br,  the !nvidia wiki page details what cards are used by what drivers
[06:31] <novato_br> ok
[06:31] <FruitLoop> hi. does anyone know why aMSN tells me I am firewalled in UbuntuStudio, but not firewalled in Ubuntu 6.10? Im running the same aMSN in both edgy and studio.... Any clue?
[06:32] <khermans> FruitLoop, maybe because you have the firewall on?
[06:32] <tonic-pushcart> sylvisj: and you ahve tried reinstalling nvidia-glx etc...
[06:32] <Gnea> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!  <--- how can i fix this?
[06:32] <sylvisj> tonic-pushcart: , yes
[06:32] <khermans> FruitLoop, another possiblity is uPNP
[06:32] <sloter> 'An error occurred in the io-library ('Bad parameters')' with gthumb anytime i try to import picts, it was working well before... ?
[06:33] <khermans> GnarlyBob, aptitude update ;;; get gpg keys ;;; aptitude update
[06:33] <FruitLoop> khemmans: even with the firewall completed disabled it still reports that I am firewalled in Studio.
[06:33] <tonic-pushcart> sylvisj: is there anything else in the error for loading nvidia-glx
[06:33] <B1zz> I am having problems with msnre, its telling me invalid version responce.  Any clue?
[06:33] <sylvisj> tonic-pushcart: , not really
[06:33] <Hi67> Any ideas what to do next? When using the live CD it comes to this: http://img294.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ubuntu2zk8.jpg (I'm using an Athlon 64 X2 and a GeForce 7800 GT)
[06:33] <tonic-pushcart> sylvisj: unusual
[06:34] <sylvisj> tonic-pushcart: I'm well aware of this ;)
[06:34] <tonic-pushcart> ^_^
[06:34] <FruitLoop> I have the necesary ports open for aMSN to work, and aMSN works perfectly in 6.10, but in Studio it refuses to believe the ports are open and says I am firewalled. Its crazy.
[06:34] <brunner> I just installed ubuntu and I'm having a problem with my wireless card.  My laptop sees my wireless network, but won't connect to it.  However, on the same card in windows, it works great, as it is now.
[06:34] <tonic-pushcart> sylvisj: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep nvidia
[06:35] <arrrghhh> how do i copy FROM xterm?
[06:36] <TokenBad> I friend did an update in ubuntu that was said was needed...now his gnome will not work
[06:36] <bruenig> arrrghhh, shift + arrows + ctrl shift c
[06:36] <sylvisj> failed to initialize glx module, failed to initialize kernel module
[06:36] <n2diy> arrrghhh: highlight the text, then pull down edit>copy
[06:36] <TokenBad> gets error failed to load module wacom module requirement mismatch
[06:36] <aznpridechinese> why is it even though i removed the file it still displays it in my desktop?
[06:36] <TokenBad> but wacom is installed
[06:37] <tonic-pushcart> sylvisj: anything more informative with    cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep -i nvidia
[06:37] <FruitLoop> yeah.. my gnome wouldnt work neither... I had to sack him. He kept letting the neighbours cats crap all over the rose beds too.
[06:37] <arrrghhh> ok neither of those suggestions worked...
[06:37] <sylvisj> Not really
[06:38] <sylvisj> I'm relatively sure the kernel module doesn't exist
[06:38] <arrrghhh> anyone actually copied anything from xterm?  lol
[06:38] <tonic-pushcart> sylvisj: have you had it running using the nvidia driver before?
[06:38] <artabrahao> anyone know a simple email program that supports email account from isp to send email?
[06:38] <khermans> artabrahao, mutt ?
[06:38] <sylvisj> tonic-pushcart: yes, yesterday
[06:38] <Typwn> artabrahao: thunderBird?
[06:38] <n2diy> arrrghhh: highlight the text, then pull down edit>copy, and click on copy. I do it all the time, and it works fine.
[06:38] <sylvisj> I have absolutely no idea what broke it
[06:38] <FruitLoop> dont all email programs do that?
[06:38] <dr_willis> aznpridechinese,  hit f5 to refresh perhaps...
[06:39] <aznpridechinese> ahhh cool it's gone! thanks
[06:39] <arrrghhh> n2diy, "pull down edit>copy" - there's a problem with that... what do you mean 'pull down'?  there's no right click...
[06:39] <khermans> artabrahao, netcat ?
  not the client, but the server, I'm using sendmail, but is too hard to configure the relay to isp
[06:39] <khermans> artabrahao, you want postfix
[06:39] <Typwn> I'm trying to get my screen refresh to get to 75, but it's being stubborn. I have an NVidia 7900GTX (Two actually) with the latest drivers.
[06:39] <n2diy> arrrghhh: edit, the drop down menu box.
[06:39] <tonic-pushcart> sylvisj: and if you do is there a line in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf that specifies the pci bus or something like that for the card?
[06:40] <arrrghhh> n2diy, are we using the same xterm?
[06:40] <sylvisj> yes
[06:40] <brunner> hi all
[06:40] <sylvisj> I'm tellin ya man, it's driver files-related
[06:40] <arrrghhh> n2diy... i don't have 'edit' or any drop down menu boxes... it's just a command line emulator
[06:40] <tonic-pushcart> sylvisj: this is the template for the line    BusID       "PCI:2:0:0"
[06:40] <aznpridechinese> dr_willis, for some reason i can't tar anything to the directory that has . infront of it even when i use sudo?
[06:40] <brunner> so I installed ubuntu, and my wireless card worked great earlier, but now it won't connect.  however, it still works great in windows. does anyone know what could cause this?
[06:41] <n2diy> arrrghhh: ahh, apparently not, I'm using gnome-terminal, I thought they all were rather generic, obviously not, sorry.
[06:41] <ajax4> Hey guys...I'm having some problems with my partitions being assigned different device names (sda, sdb, sdc) when I boot up. None of these devices have UUID's, they are referred to by the old style. Do you think this is the problem?
[06:41] <sylvisj> It's PCI:3:0:0 which is correct, but otherwise yes
[06:41] <sylvisj> brb
[06:41] <tonic-pushcart> sylvisj: first try disabling that line    it causes all sorts of problems
[06:41] <sylvisj> ok, still brb
[06:41] <sylvisj> the problem is there is no kernel module to load
[06:41] <sylvisj> modprobe wont' load it
[06:41] <arrrghhh> n2diy, yea run xterm, they're vastly different
[06:41] <sylvisj> lsmod | grep nv doesn't show it
[06:41] <sylvisj> brb
[06:41] <mcrawfor> ajax4: I used to have that problem with usb drives...
[06:42] <tonic-pushcart> sylvisj: ah well, I thought... nevermind  fair nough
[06:42] <mcrawfor> ajax4: I made explicit udev entries for them and they stuck
[06:42] <Daycrawler> Alright. I need some help.
[06:42] <mcrawfor> ajax4: not sure if that applies to your situation
[06:42] <Daycrawler> I'm running version 5.10 of Ubuntu
[06:42] <brunner> it still sees this networks, but it won't connect to it
[06:42] <ajax4> mcrawfor: Hmm...none of these are USB devices, though. It might still apply?
[06:42] <Daycrawler> I'm downloading 7.04 but, I need an .iso burner.
[06:42] <Daycrawler> k3b won't install
[06:42] <Daycrawler> Any other suggestions?
[06:43] <brunner> I give up, I'm going to try again
[06:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Daycrawler: right click write to disk
[06:43] <mcrawfor> ajax4: the same trick might be useful.  the usb devices are /dev/sd* too...
[06:43] <Daycrawler> When it's downloaded to my desktop Jack_sparrow?
[06:43] <ajax4> mcrawfor: How exactly do I do it?
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[06:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Daycrawler: Yes, right click iso and you have option to write to disk
[06:43] <mcrawfor> ajax4: google for udev howto or udev tutorial - you'll just be adding one line to a udev conf file
[06:43] <mcrawfor> ajax4: i can't remember precisely
[06:44] <Daycrawler> I dont need any other special hardware?
[06:44] <khermans> artabrahao, i dont even know what i did, but you're welcome
[06:44] <arrrghhh> khermans, i followed the commercial repo directions
[06:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Daycrawler: I assume you have a cd burner
[06:44] <arrrghhh> but it didn't work...
[06:44] <Typwn> I'm trying to get my screen refresh to get to 75, but it's being stubborn. I have an NVidia 7900GTX (Two actually) with the latest drivers.
[06:44] <ajax4> mcrawfor: Ok, I'll try that.
[06:44] <khermans> arrrghhh, it will work, i am using it right now!
[06:44] <ajax4> mcrawfor: Thanks.
[06:44] <Daycrawler> yes  I do.
[06:44] <Daycrawler> Does that only work with .iso or all files?
[06:44] <ajax4> Anyone else have any info on using the new UUID in fstab?
[06:44] <mcrawfor> ajax4: the basic process is: looking in /sys for some identifying info about the devices and then adding a line that maps that info to a device node
[06:44] <mcrawfor> ajax4: good luck
[06:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Daycrawler: I have only done it with iso
[06:45] <arrrghhh> khermans, well i was using it... and i uninstalled it to setup hamachi & what not... long story short i had to remove it and now i want it back
[06:45] <Daycrawler> Even on my version when it's soo old?
[06:45] <ajax4> mcrawfor: Thanks, I'll read up on it :)
[06:45] <Daycrawler> I'm running 5.10.
[06:45] <arrrghhh> khermans, so now i have this vmware that can't be reinstalled... it keeps erroring out
[06:45] <lkthomas> guys, does rsync also sync the file permission ?
[06:45] <khermans> ajax4, you can just use the old /dev style if you like
[06:45] <n2diy> arrrghhh: yes, I see, they are very different. Try highlighting the text, then CTRL+ left mouse click, log to file?
[06:45] <Daycrawler> thats the only thing I'm worried about Jack_sparrow is that my version is so hold and I wonder if it will still wor
[06:46] <Daycrawler> *work
[06:46] <ajax4> khermans: Well, the problem I am having is that my drives get different device names when I boot up. So sometimes my root is on hda, other times hdc, etc. It's causing errors regularly when I boot up.
[06:46] <cafuego> ajax4: Slightly easier than using /sys is running `blkid /dev/sdXX'
[06:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Daycrawler: Try making a text file with the extension.iso
[06:46] <Gnea> Does anyone know how to update the public keyring for ubuntu? whenever i go to install a package, i get the following warning message: WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[06:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Daycrawler: NOt sure if that feature goes that far back
[06:46] <FruitLoop> Any ideas on the firewall problem I mentioned?
[06:46] <Gnea> ubuntu-keyring is already installed and up to date
[06:46] <arrrghhh> khermans, can you look at this pastebin?
[06:47] <Gnea> cafuego: so what's the solution?
[06:47] <khermans> arrrghhh, ye
[06:47] <cactaur> Daycrawler: Jack_Sparrow's method should work on 5.10.
[06:47] <FruitLoop> is there some other firewall setting hidden in UbuntuStudio that I don't kinow about which is causing aMSN to think I am firewalled?
[06:47] <cafuego> Gnea: I'm just eyeballing, not attempting to help.
[06:47] <khermans> ajax4, so generate the UUID and use that
[06:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Daycrawler: MAking a text.iso wont work
[06:48] <ajax4> khermans: I don't know anything about UUIDs at all, where can I get some info on how to do that?
[06:48] <DarkFame> GnarlyBob, sudo apt-key update
[06:48] <DarkFame> Gnea, sudo apt-key update
[06:48] <DarkFame> GnarlyBob, sorry.. wrong nick.
[06:48] <arrrghhh> khermans, thanks - http://rafb.net/p/s4DvN382.html
[06:49] <Gnea> DarkFame: negative.
[06:49] <cafuego> ajax4: Most likely all partitions already have a UUID, just look it up with the blkid tool and adjust entries in /etc/stab as required.
[06:49] <Gnea> oh wait
[06:49] <Gnea> DarkFame: nevermind, thanks :)
[06:49] <cafuego> ajax4: So say /dev/hdc1 would become UUID=xxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxx
[06:49] <khermans> ajax4, sudo vol_id -u device
[06:50] <mcrawfor> cafuego: blkid /dev/hda gives no output for me...
[06:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Daycrawler: Good luck.. time for bed...
[06:50] <ajax4> cafuego: That's the thing....my root and home partitions have UUIDs, but I have since added a few other drives that do not.
[06:50] <mcrawfor> ha
[06:50] <mcrawfor> nm
[06:50] <aaanone> would anyone mind checking to see if /etc/bashrc is a file that exists by default for me?
[06:50] <ProN00b> ajax4, afaik, you can add uuid's to them
[06:51] <aznpridechinese> how do i obtain permission to extract files to a folder beginning with .? i could do it in kde without any special process but now i'm using gnome and can't do it
[06:51] <khermans> arrrghhh, sudp aptitude purge vmware-server
[06:51] <mcrawfor> aaanone: /etc/bash.bashrc exists for me
[06:51] <khermans> arrrghhh, then rinstall
[06:51] <DarkFame> aaanone, it's /etc/bash.bashrc
[06:51] <arrrghhh> aaanone, i have bash.bashrc
[06:51] <ajax4> ProN00b: What program do I run to find the UUIDs for devices that don't have them listed by blkid?
[06:52] <n2diy> DarkFame: Ls finds it here.
[06:52] <mcrawfor> ajax4: are you giving the name of the device or the partition?
[06:52] <mcrawfor> ajax4: you need to say blkid /dev/hda1
[06:52] <bruenig> ajax4, /dev/disk/by-uuid or something like is where they are stored
[06:52] <mcrawfor> ajax4: not (as I just did) blkid /dev/hda
[06:52] <FruitLoop> this sux. aMSN is too stupid to see I'm not firewalled and GAIM has no webcam support.
[06:52] <khermans> ajax4, i sent you the command already
[06:52] <bruenig> I don't know how blkid works, seems like you could write blkid in like 4 lines in bash by just finding what those files link to
[06:53] <mcrawfor> bruenig: it seems to do other things as well
[06:53] <ProN00b> are those disks you have in /etc/fstab ?
[06:53] <cafuego> ajax4: If they don't have a blkid and are either ext2 or ext3, you can set a uuid via 'tune2fs -U random /dev/hdXY'
[06:53] <arrrghhh> khermans, is there any major differences between aptitude and apt-get? i've just always used apt-get
[06:53] <orbisvicis> !pastebin
[06:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:53] <bruenig> mcrawfor, what is blkid, file /usr/bin/blkid
[06:53] <DarkFame> arrrghhh, it's just a frontend
[06:54] <arrrghhh> DarkFame, aptitude is a front end for apt-get?
[06:54] <cafuego> ajax4: or you can specify the uuid you want, instead og 'random'.
[06:54] <DarkFame> arrrghhh, yep
[06:54] <khermans> arrrghhh, yeah aptitude is preferred
[06:54] <bruenig> aptitude is not preferred
[06:54] <khermans> arrrghhh, imho it is
[06:54] <DarkFame> arrrghhh, it uses apt-get in the background.
[06:54] <arrrghhh> hrm
[06:54] <bruenig> khermans, and what do you base this ho on
[06:54] <arrrghhh> wonder why i couldn't get it cleared with apt-get
[06:55] <khermans> bruenig, years of usage
[06:55] <n2diy> I prefer synaptic.
[06:55] <bruenig> khermans, what though
[06:55] <arrrghhh> but that seemed to do the trick khermans
[06:55] <bruenig> khermans, there must be some reason
[06:55] <arrrghhh> n2diy, synaptic is nice... but you can't fix stuff with it very easily if at all
[06:55] <khermans> bruenig, failed upgrades using apt-get
[06:55] <ajax4> Okay, guys I think I got it! Thanks for your help!
[06:55] <bruenig> khermans, did you then recreate your system and do the upgrades with aptitude
[06:56] <khermans> arrrghhh, no prob dude, glad it worked
[06:56] <n2diy> arrrghhh: re-install has worked for me more than once.
[06:56] <khermans> bruenig, yes, in vmware
[06:56] <arrrghhh> khermans, yea thanks man i'll keep that in mind... worked like a charm!
[06:56] <bruenig> khermans, seriously though, you can't compare them if you don't do the both on the exact system
[06:56] <xoRock> yellow, what is the best download manager for ubuntu??
[06:56] <khermans> bruenig, i just told you i did
[06:56] <bruenig> khermans, I don't believe you
[06:57] <khermans> bruenig, alright dude
[06:57] <artabrahao> hi, How can I see the actual syslog?
[06:57] <bruenig> khermans, there is no way you would recreate your exact system with the exact same files and configuration in the vm, in fact I don't think such a thing would even be possible as hardware would be different since it is emulated, it would be a total waste of time
[06:57] <DarkFame> artabrahao, less /var/log/syslog
[06:57] <artabrahao> thanks
[06:57] <khermans> bruenig, yes it would, have you heard of snapshots?
[06:58] <arrrghhh> bruenig, so it's a trivial argument in the first place, no?
[06:58] <khermans> bruenig, i have designed large systems around the VMware VIX API
[06:58] <khermans> bruenig, aptitude is superior
[06:58] <bruenig> arrrghhh, when dumbasses come in here and keep talking about aptitude it is a bit bothersome because then the new people come in with misinformation and repeat it just like they do
[06:58] <mcrawfor> aptitude looks cooler for searching and browsing for sure
[06:58] <khermans> i have had many failed attempts using apt-get over aptitude
[06:59] <khermans> mcrawfor, you dont have to use the curses
[06:59] <khermans> bruenig, i am not a dumbass
[06:59] <mcrawfor> khermans: yeah, I was jsut gonna say it'd be cool if it had one-liner installs like apt-get
[06:59] <drthunder> for no reason, apache on my local machine says I can't access the files anymore
[06:59] <arrrghhh> after reading about aptitude vs apt-get i'd rather use aptitude
[06:59] <Nutubuntu> bruenig,  what is the misinformation you're referring to?
[06:59] <khermans> mcrawfor, it does
[06:59] <n2diy> bruenig: that's the second time you've made that statement tonight, is it a file?
[06:59] <drthunder> but when I change the permissions, i still can't read them
[06:59] <arrrghhh> it removes dependency packages that apt-get doesn't
[06:59] <khermans> bruenig, you have no idea who i am
[07:00] <bruenig> Nutubuntu, the aptitude nonsense that you still hear over and over again from the group of newbs who were indoctrinated before spreading it to this group who will undoubtedly spread it to the next group and they will all think they have some sort of tip that they don't
[07:00] <khermans> bruenig, and who are you?
[07:01] <khermans> bruenig, you are an apt developer?
[07:01] <mcrawfor> a troll, looks like...
[07:01] <khaije1bb> netsplit?
[07:01] <mcrawfor> complaints with no substance
[07:01] <Nutubuntu> bruenig,  sorry, but I don't know what nonsense you mean ... I'm not trying to antagonize, I just want to know what you're referring to ... so I don't misunderstand or misinform ...
[07:01] <n2diy> no bruenig has put in his dues here.
[07:01] <bruenig> khermans, you give one thing upgrades which are completely unsubstantiated and impossible to replicate
[07:01] <khermans> no use arguing
[07:01] <bruenig> with both
[07:01] <arrrghhh> it's better than spreading automatix bs
[07:02] <mcrawfor> n2diy: good to know
[07:02] <khermans> bruenig, i just told you they were substantiated
[07:02] <mcrawfor> though I still don't see the trouble
[07:02] <khermans> bruenig, i did this a few times
[07:02] <khermans> in vwmare, take snapshot, apt-get dist-upgrade, revert, aptitude dist-upgrade
[07:03] <khermans> aptitude did not fail..
[07:03] <bruenig> khermans, there is no technical reason why there would be any problem there
[07:03] <bruenig> I don't think they were replicated, I don't think you wasted your time doing something so pointless
[07:03] <bruenig> Anyone can say stuff, I can say I did it too and apt-get worked
[07:04] <onexused> stupid question: anyone know a quick link where I can find a black-and-white of Tux?  My google searches turn up only color images.
[07:04] <onexused> picture of Tux*
[07:04] <cactaur> bruenig: Who cares? Is it really that horrible that some people use aptitude and others use apt-get?
[07:04] <mcrawfor> onexused: get color, gimp it to b&w?
[07:04] <arrrghhh> all i know is apt-get wouldn't fix vmware and aptitude did right away
[07:04] <MrGlass> onexused: yeah, that would be my advice as well; can't ever remember seeing a b&w meself
[07:05] <bruenig> cactaur, when one values truth, misinformation is bad, to hear that nonsense echoed over and over again by people who have no idea what they are talking about yes is bad
[07:05] <onexused> mcrawfor: that make it greyscale, wouldn't it?  I want 1-bit.
[07:05] <mcrawfor> onexused: you can make gimp give you 1-bit.
[07:05] <onexused> MrGlass: I found one before and printed it, but didn't save it.  My scanner doesn't work right now.
[07:05] <astro76> onexused, http://www.isc.tamu.edu/~lewing/linux/
[07:06] <mcrawfor> or that ;)
[07:06] <onexused> mcrawfor: I'll have to try that.  I didn't know
[07:06] <n2diy> bruenig: can you offer anything but an opinion on this?
[07:06] <MrGlass> onexused: huh, well gl finding it again:)
[07:06] <onexused> astro76: thanks much
[07:06] <bruenig> n2diy, I don't say either one is better, when someone makes the claim that aptitude is better, ask them why, almost always they will tell you something that is flat out wrong that they heard someone else say
[07:06] <bruenig> n2diy, something about dependency removal or some other nonsense
[07:06] <Montaro> onexused: http://exetel-gw.ipv4.montarotech.net/tux-bnw.jpg
[07:07] <Montaro> onexused: just a quick gimp job lol
[07:07] <mcrawfor> bruenig: i'd be willing to bet that apt-get works sometimes and aptitutde others - might as well try both if you're stuck
[07:07] <levander> One thing I've been worried about with apt-get vs. aptitude, is that I switched to aptitude before apt-get started supporting orphan tracking.  Now that apt-get supports orphan tracking, I'm wondering if apt-get with use aptitude's orphan tracking data.  Or, do I have to migrate from apt-get to aptitude?
[07:07] <onexused> Montaro: thanks.  I found astro76's link to be what I want, though.
[07:07] <Nutubuntu> bruenig,  I watched aptitude do what you just mentioned, this afternoon. How is it nonsense? I don't understand at all.
[07:07] <bruenig> mcrawfor, as a fundamental rule though you can't categorically say yeah aptitude is the best
[07:07] <bruenig> Nutubuntu, they both do it
[07:07] <n2diy> bruenig: roger that, we all have opinions, and without proof, that is all they are. I like synaptic, it works for me, so far.
[07:08] <mcrawfor> bruenig: I wouldn't dare!
[07:08] <mcrawfor> bruenig: I'd rather argue of vi/emacs
[07:08] <Nutubuntu> Ah! t/y bruenig, now I understand :)
[07:08] <bruenig> mcrawfor, but that is what they do and it bugs me
[07:08] <n2diy> mcrawfor: OOOKKKKAAAAyYY!!!!
[07:08] <bruenig> I only refute I never project one to be better than the other
[07:08] <slicksterr> so what is everyone's favorite utility program on ubuntu? im trying to get an idea of what to load up on this new installation.
[07:08] <levander> wyggler2: You're still on mindspring too?  Not many of us left.
[07:09] <mcrawfor> slicksterr: to do what?
[07:09] <slicksterr> pick something.
[07:09] <wyggler2> yup. been here for a long time.
[07:09] <mcrawfor> nmap
[07:09] <levander> slicksterr: Pretty much to start with, the same stuff you'd run on Windows.  Firefox, Thunderbird, I use Rythmbox as a jukebox.
[07:09] <bruenig> slicksterr, I prefer the terminal
[07:09] <bruenig> that is a good utility for terminal emulation
[07:09] <n2diy> slicksterr: units, kstars, kppp, um...
[07:09] <mcrawfor> sysv-rc-conf
[07:09] <hende07> does anyone know of a good burning program that converts and burns to regular dvd format i tried devede and it didnt work
[07:09] <levander> wyggler2: You gotta be to still be on mindspring.
[07:09] <Nutubuntu> slicksterr,  vfu, screen
[07:10] <brunner> my new install of ubuntu no longer properly obtains DHCP leases as of the last upgrade. this was a new install and worked fine earlier today before the upgrade. does anyone know what could have changed?
[07:10] <ghostx> hende07, k3b
[07:10] <mcrawfor> bruenig: wireless?
[07:10] <mcrawfor> bruenig: sorry
[07:10] <slicksterr> well, im new to the linux world. i've never touched it before in my life.  i have absolutely no idea what to do...practically anything. so im trying to get an idea of what i should do with this thing.
[07:10] <kuolei> how can i star 3ddesktop
[07:10] <mcrawfor> brunner: wireless?
[07:10] <brunner> mcrawfor: wireless and otherwise. dhclient works fine.
[07:10] <hende07> k3b
[07:10] <bruenig> dhclient works but you can't get dhcp leases?
[07:10] <novato_br> hi, how can I get remove this driver NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9639-pkg1.run from my PC ?
[07:11] <levander> hende07: When I started having trouble burning CD's, I found out it wasn't just the applications I was trying.  It was Linux's driver that spoke to the CD driver, that they were all using.  Just something to keep in mind if you start trying other ones.
[07:11] <bruenig> novato_br, delete it
[07:11] <n2diy> slicksterr: k3b, audacity, mc (midnight commander),  umm...
[07:11] <slicksterr> someone in here was talking about how to get a broadcom wireless card to work. what was the driver that ya'll were sayin to use?
[07:11] <mcrawfor> brunner: hm.  I had some wireless communication problems with fiesty, had to use an older kernel, but not sure if it goes to wired too
[07:11] <novato_br> how is it, bruenig ?
[07:11] <novato_br> i got installed it
[07:11] <bruenig> novato_br, oh you mean the thing that that installs
[07:11] <mcrawfor> anyone else loose wireless support for prism54g with fiesty? Damn, that was irritating
[07:11] <hende07> well i tried brasero and devede and the preview had alot of feedback
[07:11] <novato_br> it was installed on my pc
[07:11] <khermans> bruenig, i want to you take a look at the aptitude source code, particularly, aptitude_resolver.cc and friends
[07:11] <brunner> mcrawfor: thanks, I'll try reverting to the old kernel
[07:11] <novato_br> yep, bruenig
[07:11] <khermans> bruenig, then you can try to dispell my claims
[07:11] <brunner> any other ideas before I ditch out?
[07:12] <novato_br> this drivers is not right for my video card
[07:12] <bruenig> khermans, your claims aren't substantiated, they are built on a preposterous claim
[07:12] <mcrawfor> brunner: i just chose an older one in the boot menu, btw
[07:12] <novato_br> how can I get uninstall them ?
[07:12] <DarkFame> khermans, what's with the aptitude source?
[07:12] <levander> slicksterr: If you don't know what to do with it, just use it like your old Windows box.  Do the same stuff, you'll discover stuff eventually.
[07:12] <novato_br> !uninstall drivers
[07:12] <brunner> mcrawfor: yeah, that's what I was planning on doing
[07:12] <khaije1bb> do ya'll think ubuntu will still be gaining steam in 5 years time, or wil it have been replaced by another popular distro?
[07:12] <khermans> DarkFame, bruenig is being annoying and telling me that i am lying, but he has never even investiagted the source himself
[07:13] <slicksterr> i just need to know what wireless driver people are using for a broadcom wireless card. i saw it in here earlier but i cant remember the name of it
[07:13] <brunner> mcrawfor: I'm not sure what to do if that fixes it, though. would the next round of kernel upgrades fix it for good, or do I use my old kernel forever?
[07:13] <khermans> bruenig, i have seen the differences in a vmware controlld environemtn
[07:13] <DarkFame> khermans, but what is it with the source?
[07:13] <mcrawfor> khaije1bb: impossible to say! that's what's so awesome about free software
[07:13] <slicksterr> it was "bcm43xx(somethin)"
[07:13] <bruenig> khermans, I have, in fact I have submitted patches upstream for aptitude because it is so bad
[07:13] <bruenig> in my virtual machine though
[07:13] <n2diy> khaije1bb: my crystal ball is broken.
[07:13] <khermans> bruenig, what is so bad?
[07:13] <mcrawfor> khaije1bb: if something better comes along, yay! if ubuntu stays good, yay!
[07:13] <cactaur> khaije1bb: judging that you're asking on #ubuntu, most people might answer in favor of ubuntu. But the most accurate answer would be "Who knows?"
[07:13] <bruenig> khermans, the stuff I patched, check it out
[07:14] <mcrawfor> brunner: the next upgrades might do it, yeah.
[07:14] <wyggler2> levander: ten years today.  will probably get one of those happy anniversary emails.
[07:14] <bruenig> I demanded my stuff be put in MIT though, they didn't want that
[07:14] <levander> khaije1bb: Gaining steam.  Ubuntu is the only distro that has a release schedule that makes sense for users (e.g., not developer-centric, but user-centric) and it's built on top of the massive debian package repositories.
[07:14] <brunner> alright, I'm out then. thank you so much for your help!
[07:14] <mcrawfor> brunner: but until then you can edit the default kernel in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:14] <bruenig> so I let them put it in GPL
[07:14] <khermans> bruenig, i told you that in vmware aptitude resolved my dist-upgrade without errors in attepts where apt-get did not
[07:14] <mcrawfor> and test the new ones manually until they work
[07:14] <bruenig> khermans, I know and I am telling you I submit patches to aptitude source code
[07:14] <DarkFame> levander, there is also a strong CEO and company behind Ubuntu.
[07:14] <mcrawfor> khermans: let it go ;)
[07:14] <brunner> mcrawfor: wonderful
[07:14] <bruenig> khermans, in my virtual machine that runs minix
[07:14] <Squalish> Anyone know how Dell sets up their ubuntu installs, partition-wise? I'm a win-techy finally installing it for the first time on a Dell box for dual boot, but they have a primary restore partition and a utility partition in addition to the WinXP partition, leaving me with the options of 1) of making a 4th primary partition and running everything off /, 2) trying to boot from a logical partition, 3) nuking the dell utility partition
[07:15] <Squalish> or 4) perhaps making the dell utility partition into a logical one
[07:15] <levander> DarkFame: Yeah, people seem to like Shuttleworth, I just don't much about him.  I just know about Ubuntu.
[07:15] <bruenig> Squalish, logical
[07:15] <bruenig> Squalish, 2
[07:15] <DarkFame> levander, he knows how to do it and he has the money to do it.
[07:15] <Squalish> Is that much more complicated than booting from a primary?
[07:15] <levander> DarkFame: what makes you say this?
[07:15] <bruenig> Squalish, linux doesn't care if it is logical or primary, there is no difference
[07:16] <mcrawfor> khermans: it is sad, huh?
[07:16] <r0b-> how do i get a cloaked ip here
[07:16] <r0b-> ?
[07:16] <unitheory> linux is pretty logical
[07:16] <slicksterr> anyone? broadcom wireless card driver?
[07:16] <khaije1bb> ubuntu has done almost everything right imo, and are making good decisions going forward (the umpc version for example) plus its riding a rising limux wave. I think it can stay on top. Though in 5 years the definition of "distro" might be a little different :-)
[07:16] <levander> Squalish: you can resize partitions if you need more space with parted.
[07:17] <n2diy> r0b, join Ubuntu.
[07:17] <r0b-> im here
[07:17] <mcrawfor> dude, acpi is so bad at estimating my battery life
[07:17] <r0b-> :|
[07:17] <n2diy> r0b, join Ubuntu, online through Ubuntu.com.
[07:17] <mcrawfor> it tells me I have 5 mins left *over half an hour* before my laptop shuts itself off
[07:17] <DarkFame> khaije1bb, I think there are too many distros out there for it's own good.. too many flavours to pick from. too many trying to reinvent the wheel.
[07:17] <Squalish> using the gnome disk manager (though it isn't perfect, made chkdisk tell me the disk was dirty), which worked
[07:17] <TaJMoX> Someone please tell me the command to run the remote desktop config gui thingy?
[07:18] <levander> r0b-: lol @ i'm here
[07:18] <TaJMoX> It's not showing up in xfce but Im running regular ubuntu
[07:18] <DarkFame> Squalish, do you actually believe chkdsk?
[07:18] <r0b-> i want a cloaked IP
[07:18] <TaJMoX> so just the command to run the config for the remote desktop
[07:18] <n2diy> r0b, join Ubuntu, online through Ubuntu.com.
[07:18] <Squalish> :) occasionally
[07:18] <mcrawfor> DarkFame: naw, people have cool ideas that way.  Long live stupid little distributions Ill never have to use!
[07:18] <TaJMoX> for example can someone go into the menu editor and see what the command is for the remote dekstop
[07:18] <r0b-> ooooh
[07:19] <Squalish> chkdsk doesn't indicate breakage, just nastiness that can be worked through
[07:19] <mcrawfor> TaJMoX: rdesktop
[07:19] <TaJMoX> thn kas
[07:19] <mcrawfor> TaJMoX: i think you can right click and see properties
[07:19] <TaJMoX> mcrawfor: its not in my menu
[07:19] <Squalish> I have corrupt files and directories that chkdsk doesn't know or care about, that can't be deleted, on my main box
[07:19] <mcrawfor> TaJMoX: ah
[07:19] <TaJMoX> mcrawfor: no i want the gui config thing - like in system preferences
[07:19] <DarkFame> Squalish, which OS are you running on that box?
[07:19] <mcrawfor> TaJMoX: at the command line, you can run 'apropos remote desktop'
[07:20] <mcrawfor> and it'll give you a list of commands that relate to those terms
[07:20] <TaJMoX> thanks
[07:20] <mcrawfor> good way to find the right command line tool
[07:20] <Squalish> But it will tell me if I screwed something up by doing max-load disk writing when the box crashes, and usually fix it to some reasonable degree of fixed (without saving the file)
[07:20] <Squalish> 2kpro
[07:21] <mcrawfor> TaJMoX: hmm, maybe they took it out of the menu when they made it a toolbar widget
[07:21] <TaJMoX> mcrawfor: ah its not in there- can you just look in the menu for me ?
[07:21] <mcrawfor> if you use the "Add to toolbar" thing you might be able to locate it
[07:21] <TaJMoX> oh well i know its in gnome - i guess i'll just logout
[07:22] <TaJMoX> weird i dont see remote desktop as a gnome applet
[07:22] <mcrawfor> TaJMoX: looks like it's tsclient
[07:22] <xoRock> yellow, what is the best download manager for ubuntu??
[07:22] <mcrawfor> terminal server client
[07:22] <TaJMoX> mcrawfor: no i mean the server
[07:22] <mcrawfor> oh for heavens sake! ;)
[07:22] <mcrawfor> i can't get this one right ;)
[07:22] <n2diy> on no, here we go again. :)
[07:22] <TaJMoX> the vnc server - has a nice gui in System->preferences->Remote Desktop
[07:23] <cchance> How well is the Atheros AR5007EG Wireless Network Adapter supported by Ubuntu 7.04? Vista has problems with my graphics card every once in a wile the screen goes crazy so on that note also how well is the ATI 1100 Card supported?   Note: This is all laptop
[07:23] <TaJMoX> xoRock: i like d4x
[07:23] <Squalish> A question, regarding what I'm using my secondary box for - how economical is GNOME / KDE / Win2Kpro with memory, for running a given Firefox window with, say, 150 tabs? Mostly the same?
[07:23] <mcrawfor> TaJMoX: okay
[07:23] <xoRock> what is the best download manager for ubuntu??
[07:23] <mcrawfor> TaJMoX: vino-preferences
[07:23] <TaJMoX> mcrawfor: thats it!  thakns =] 
[07:23] <mcrawfor> TaJMoX: vino??!
[07:23] <mcrawfor> wth is that?
[07:24] <slavik> vino = wine in latin, no?
[07:24] <xoRock> downloader for x?
[07:24] <n2diy> xoRock: your ten minutes late, we just had a discussion on that. I prefer synaptic, others don't.
[07:24] <mcrawfor> slavik: agreed, but why call the vnc preferences that...
[07:25] <mcrawfor> xoRock: what are you downloading?
[07:25] <slavik> mcrawfor: because the drank lots of vino when they coded that?
[07:25] <mcrawfor> slavik: well, all right then
[07:25] <n2diy> xoRock: and, how fast is your interenet connection?
[07:26] <tiaka> who is ubuntu Support here..
[07:26] <xoRock> from web
[07:26] <khermans> bruenig, how can i do this with apt-get ? --> aptitude reinstall ~i~Afeisty .. i am interetsed inyour expertise
[07:26] <n2diy> tiaka: nobody, and everybody.
[07:26] <xoRock> 7 kb/sec
[07:26] <cactaur> khermans: Please, not again.
[07:26] <Frogzoo> tiaka: this is a volunteer chan
[07:26] <xoRock> something like getright, downoad accel
[07:26] <n2diy> xoRock: sounds like dial up?
[07:26] <khermans> no its a serious quesiton, i am having an APT cycle issue
[07:27] <khermans> see back in logs, i cant figure it out
[07:27] <khermans> cactaur, if you know plz help also
[07:27] <xoRock> n2diy,  yes
[07:27] <khermans> where did he go...
[07:27] <n2diy> xoRock: and you were asked what you wanted to DL?
[07:27] <drthunder> i have a web directory on my local machine
[07:28] <drthunder> and all of the sudden, its forbidden
[07:28] <cchance> !atheros
[07:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about atheros - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:28] <drthunder> i'm using apache
[07:28] <xoRock> TaJMoX, D4x = downloader for x?
[07:28] <TaJMoX> xored`off: yes
[07:28] <TaJMoX> xoRock: yes
[07:29] <cchance> !wifi
[07:29] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:29] <n2diy> ! D4x
[07:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about d4x - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:29] <xoRock> n2diy, im downloading ubuntu studio iso
[07:29] <tiaka> who is can help me about ubuntu repstory
[07:30] <xoRock> got crash while downloading at 89% (800mb) headache sudenly
[07:30] <xoRock> changing my download manager
[07:30] <cchance> Whats a wine alternative that will run windows progs and games
[07:30] <xoRock> TaJMoX, thx budy
[07:30] <khermans> xoRock, try wget --continue
[07:30] <limaunion> hi all, when i try to boot my vanilla kernel (2.6.22) with libata support enabled for my PATA HD i get 'vfs: cannot open root device UUID=blahblah'. My fstab and grub have the correct UUID, what's wrong here ?
[07:30] <n2diy> xoRock: how big a file is that? For large stuff I use wget, but that is a cli program, recently I've used bitorrent to do the same. For smaller stuff in the repos, I use synaptic.
[07:30] <khermans> cchance, cedega
[07:30] <chealdo> who can help me install my scanner my ubuntu feisty cannot identify my genius colorpage vivid3xe
[07:31] <cchance> Thats free
[07:31] <cchance> i know theres one out their but i forgot the name
[07:31] <cchance> it was something to mimic
[07:31] <shiester_miester> gday everyone
[07:31] <slavik> cchance: crossover office?
[07:31] <xoRock> khermans, i use firefox 2 d/L, is wget using terminal to operate
[07:31] <xoRock> ?
[07:32] <n2diy> xoRock: wget, and bitorrent will resume broken DLs.
[07:32] <Typwn> Anyone know of a debian package for Frets on Fire?
[07:32] <cchance> dont think it was taht
[07:32] <tiaka> where i can get the repos of ubuntu 7.04
[07:32] <slavik> cchance: cedega?
[07:32] <xoRock> n2diy, oke budy, ill try ^^
[07:32] <cchance> actuly come to think of it it may have been
[07:32] <RoC_MasterMind> How do I enable SSI for Apache in ubuntu?
[07:32] <khermans> xoRock, wget is a CLI program, yes
[07:32] <cchance> is that one free
[07:32] <slavik> cchance: no
[07:32] <Typwn> Or does anyone know of a way for me to get all the developer packages so I can compile extracted tarballs?
[07:33] <khermans> Typwn, you cant install all the dev packages
[07:33] <shiester_miester> i have an unusual problem: when i set gdesklets to start at logon, it doesnt start, but it works perfectly fine when i start it through the menu
[07:33] <cchance> not cedega office crossover
[07:33] <khermans> there will be conflicts
[07:33] <Typwn> khermans: I don't have any though it seems
[07:33] <Typwn> khermans: So I can't compile a thing
[07:33] <slavik> cchance: cedega, which was "WineX", is a fork of the last wine released under BSD license. Wine switched to GPL, because transgaming technologies (people behind cedega) did not want to contribute back the directX code.
[07:33] <khermans> Typwn, well then just install the ones you need
[07:34] <xoRock> khermans, ill look into it
[07:34] <Typwn> khermans: Would be great if I knew what it was I needed.
[07:34] <idmoire> alguem pode me ajudar
[07:34] <idmoire> como aumento o nmero de reas de trabalho?
[07:34] <chealdo> somebody knows how to fix my scanner genius colorpage vivid
[07:34] <slavik> chealdo: what company made that scanner?
[07:34] <n2diy> ! es | idmoire
[07:34] <ubotu> idmoire: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:35] <khermans> Typwn, after you ./configure it shoudl say
[07:35] <chealdo> genius
[07:35] <cchance> well this bites, my wifi card isnt supported
[07:35] <khermans> Typwn, or the software will tell you ahead of time or in the readome
[07:35] <chealdo> slavik, genius
[07:35] <duluu> I'm having problem when try to load kvm-amd kernel module
[07:35] <Typwn> khermans: Let me try that out. Once I know, is it just a back sudo apt-get?
[07:35] <slavik> chealdo: I never heard of the company. bug them for a linux driver, thens earch google if there is one.
[07:35] <Typwn> a basic*
[07:36] <duluu> it's causing kernel panic on Opteron 2214, Ubuntu Feisty Amd64 version
[07:36] <chealdo> ok
[07:36] <tiaka> who is ubuntu Support here..
[07:36] <n2diy> tiaka: nobody, and everybody.
[07:36] <shiester_miester> tiaka, all of us
[07:36] <shiester_miester> even you :P
[07:37] <khermans> Typwn, yeah or aptitude install lib*-dev
[07:37] <tiaka> is www.ubuntu.com support the repos of ubuntu 7.04
[07:37] <chealdo> i found the firmware but dunno where to paste this to my root folder
[07:37] <Typwn> khermans: Not familiar with that command. Somewhat new to Ubuntu
[07:38] <helloyo> how do i batch process files? ie, i want to downgrade a lot of files with lame
[07:38] <chealdo> i hav now the  firmware somebody knows this where to put in feisty?
[07:38] <tiaka> why on my ubuntu 7.04 cant install tar.gz2 ???
[07:38] <tiaka> ./configure
[07:38] <tiaka> then
[07:38] <tiaka> the alert is
[07:38] <Nutubuntu> !enter
[07:38] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:39] <tiaka> about C compiler
[07:39] <cchance> install unp
[07:39] <n2diy> tiaka: have you installed gcc, build-essentials?
[07:39] <RoC_MasterMind> How do I enable SSI for Apache 1.3* in ubuntu?
[07:39] <Typwn> khermans: LOL! Frets on Fire didn't even need any compiling.
[07:40] <tiaka> is default of cd ubuntu is have gcc?
[07:40] <Nutubuntu> goodnight all
[07:40] <cchance> roc, you mean SSL?
[07:40] <khermans> Typwn, :-)
[07:40] <Ayabara> Can I change the volume name of a hfs+ drive without having to recreate the filesystem?
[07:41] <n2diy> tiaka: I don't remember, check with the Synaptic package manager.
[07:41] <corevette> http://digg.com/tech_news/69_Tech_Blogs_That_Don_t_Suck
[07:41] <cchance> Roc_MasterMind, you mean SSL?
[07:41] <tiaka> n2diy:but i think is instaled gcc 3
[07:41] <RoC_MasterMind> modules-config apache enable mod_include
[07:41] <RoC_MasterMind> that's how
[07:42] <tiaka> n2diy:if i open the *.log
[07:42] <n2diy> tiaka: in a terminal, type gcc -v, does that report it?
[07:42] <tiaka> it say if gcc version 5  >
[07:42] <tiaka> i try it
[07:42] <n2diy> tiaka: did you DL build-essentials?
[07:42] <Naik0> Hey, i have vsftpd server on my server. Can i login with my root account on the ftp?
[07:42] <Typwn> Anyone know how to setup a game controller on Ubuntu? I'm using a PS2 to PC adapter, not sure what to do really.
[07:42] <chealdo> pls help i need to install me genius but dunno where to pu this firmware file in my ubuntu feisty
[07:43] <`eric-> hmm
[07:43] <tiaka> n2diy:what it mean DL build-essentials...
[07:43] <chealdo>  pls help i need to install my genius but dunno where to put this firmware file in my ubuntu feisty
[07:43] <tiaka> im new on linu
[07:43] <tiaka> x
[07:43] <n2diy> tiaka: did you Down Load the  build-essentials package.
[07:43] <Naik0> Hey, i have vsftpd server on my server. Can i login with my root account on the ftp?
[07:44] <tiaka> n2diy:where i can download it
[07:44] <cchance> their goes my graphics card again
[07:44] <tiaka> i use default if ubuntu CD
[07:44] <cchance> can ubuntu support my Atheros AR5007EG Wireless Network Adapter at all? I want to get off this blasted vista
[07:44] <n2diy> tiaka: use one of your package managers, I prefer synaptic, from the system > admin menu.
[07:45] <slavik> cchance: it should ... have you tried the livecd yet?
[07:45] <tiaka> the checkbox of gcc is on... it mena gcc is instaled...
[07:45] <cchance> yeah
[07:46] <tiaka> n2diy: the checkbox of gcc is on... it mean gcc is instaled...
[07:46] <astro76> cchance, check System -> ADministration -> Restricted Drivers Manager and see if there is a checkbox for atheros
[07:46] <n2diy> tiaka: yes
[07:47] <tiaka> n2diy:is QT need to installl
[07:47] <n2diy> tiaka: if it was it would be already, gcc should have everything it needs now. But you do need to get build-essentials.
[07:48] <cchance_> stupid vista
[07:48] <jerkface03> Is there an online book somewhere that'll get me started on linux/ubuntu development?
[07:48] <n2diy> cchance, you should trademark that.
[07:48] <cchance_> trademark what?
[07:49] <n2diy> cchance, stupid Vista.
[07:49] <cchance_> my screen is going crazy
[07:49] <drthunder> i installed sbackup to my home directory where i want to store backups, and then apache quit working there
[07:49] <cchance_> black everywhere and the chat box is screwed up
[07:49] <drthunder> any ideas?
[07:49] <cchance_> everytime some one posts it goes black
[07:49] <cchance_> then comes backup
[07:50] <brunner> as of my last upgrade, I can't connect to wireless networks.  I can see them, but my wireless card won't associate. I tried reverting to the last kernel, but it didn't make a difference.
[07:51] <rolfen> help
[07:51] <rolfen> sorry i meant /help
[07:51] <cchance_> wo
[07:52] <cchance_> man i need ubuntu fast
[07:52] <brunner> does anyone know why the last upgrade might have broken my wireless support?
[07:52] <Hitomaro> hello
[07:52] <ryanb> hey, all
[07:52] <Greyscale> question: How the crap do I use compiz-extra (the extra plugins)
[07:52] <Hitomaro> do I need an anti-virus for ubuntu?
[07:53] <brunner> Hitomaro: not unless it's a mail server, IMHO
[07:53] <Greyscale> Hitomaro, not really.
[07:53] <n2diy> Hitomaro: only if you are running a mail server, so you don't probagate them.
[07:53] <Hitomaro> whats a mail server?
[07:53] <Hitomaro> :/
[07:53] <Greyscale> its based on debian, and like all loonaxes, is near-bombproof
[07:53] <Hitomaro> ok I'm not running it then
[07:53] <ryanb> I have a new machine I'm attempting to install Ubuntu on, and every image I've tried for 7.x causes the machine to lock up hard after usb & scsi probes.  any suggestions on where to look for add'l clues?
[07:53] <Greyscale> a machine that handles email
[07:53] <brunner> Hitomaro: something god uses to make your email work
[07:53] <brunner> or that
[07:53] <cchance_> :O
[07:53] <Hitomaro> oh
[07:53] <Greyscale> lots and lots of email
[07:54] <n2diy> Hitomaro: if you don't know, you don't need to worry about it.
[07:54] <cchance_> Whats a mailserver!!!!?
[07:54] <Hitomaro> did you change your nick brunner?
[07:54] <Greyscale> it just sits there directing them
[07:54] <Greyscale> Anyone know how to use compiz-extra?
[07:54] <brunner> Hitomaro: I'm not sure what it was before
[07:54] <brunner> I signed off to go try some things
[07:54] <brunner> but I was unsuccessful
[07:54] <Hitomaro> bru[u] ner?
[07:54] <cchance_> gUYS anyway of getting the atheros to work or am i stuck here in vista
[07:54] <brunner> Hitomaro: nah, unless I made a typo before, this has always been my nick
[07:55] <drthunder> what is the default permissions for the home folder?
[07:55] <brunner> actually, it wouldn't have been a typo
[07:55] <Hitomaro> oh then it wasn't you.. :)
[07:55] <brunner> drthunder: you could probably check skel
[07:55] <cchance_> Stupid Vista (TM)
[07:55] <brunner> drthunder: I don't know where it is on ubuntu, but you could "locate skel" without quotes
[07:55] <n2diy> drthunder: I believe it should be 755
[07:56] <ryanb> (the machine has an Intel Q6600, DG33SX* motherboard [G33 chipset] , etc.  have tried i386 & amd64 discs, reg. server & alternate discs, and variants for 7.04 and 7.10 tribe 2)
[07:56] <ryanb> any suggestions?
[07:56] <cchance_> theres got to be something that will do whis
[07:56] <cchance_> this^
[07:57] <cchance_> do i have to be stuck with vista
[07:57] <Greyscale> cchance_, ooh, I have an atheros card.
[07:57] <ProN00b> does anyone know how to split a .flac file using a .cue file ?
[07:57] <Greyscale> Whats the issue?
[07:57] <cchance_> Atheros AR5007EG Wireless Network Adapter
[07:57] <brunner> so as of my last upgrade, I can't connect to wireless networks.  I can see them, but my wireless card won't associate. I tried reverting to the last kernel, but it didn't make a difference. I thought it was because I couldn't get a DHCP lease, but it really won't connect at all. I can see the networks on the list, and I enter a password, but it won't associate with the AP
[07:57] <blind> ProN00b: I don't know any off the top of my head, but check freshmeat.net
[07:57] <Greyscale> brb, googling on your behalf because you've probably not yet.
[07:58] <brunner> Greyscale: are you talking to me?
[07:58] <Greyscale> no, cchance_
[07:58] <drthunder> guys: Don't have sdbackup install its backups in your /home/user/ directory cause it will change the permissions
[07:58] <Greyscale> cchance_, so whats the issue?
[07:58] <cchance_> i cant google
[07:58] <cchance_> all i know is its Atheros AR5007EG Wireless Network Adapter
[07:58] <blind> why can't you google?
[07:58] <cchance_> the screen in IE is gone
[07:58] <brunner> cchance_: buy an iPhone!
[07:58] <Squalish> is it normal to have a bunch of errors when booting from liveCD, then go on to boot successfully??
[07:59] <brunner> just kidding.
[07:59] <ProN00b> all atheros use madwifi drivers and are actually supposed to work good
[07:59] <cchance_> my start menu is shit now
[07:59] <Greyscale> :/
[07:59] <blind> !ohmy
[07:59] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:59] <Greyscale> cchance_, go install the madwifi drivers
[07:59] <cchance_> where from
[07:59] <Greyscale> system > Admin > Restricted drivers
[07:59] <cchance_> the atherose is my only internet connection
[08:00] <blind> then how are you online right now?
[08:00] <Greyscale> after its done, reboot and it should (in theory) spoing into life
[08:00] <Greyscale> blind, windowsia.
[08:00] <cchance_> via vista
[08:00] <Greyscale> cchance_, what laptop?
[08:00] <blind> can't google from vista? O_o
[08:00] <n2diy> Dapper doesn't have system > admin > restricted drivers, can they be added, or do I need to upgrade the entire system?
[08:00] <cchance_> Acer 5100
[08:01] <Greyscale> hehe, I have an Acer 505
[08:01] <Greyscale> 5050
[08:01] <Greyscale> :P
[08:01] <goldfingermafia> can anyone tell me how to modify a read only file?
[08:01] <Greyscale> with another Atheros card
[08:01] <Greyscale> goldfingermafia, make it not-read only :P
[08:01] <blind> goldfingermafia: make it un-read-only
[08:01] <Greyscale> eg;
[08:01] <goldfingermafia> how do i do that?
[08:01] <n0kZ> anybody use dvorak kb?
[08:01] <cchance_> yeah your card is supported
[08:01] <Greyscale> chmod 700 somefile.txt
[08:01] <blind> chmod +777 file
[08:01] <Greyscale> or right click it
[08:01] <goldfingermafia> im so noob lol
[08:01] <ianmcorvidae> n0kZ: I do.
[08:01] <Greyscale> and modify its permissions
[08:01] <n2diy> n0kZ: yes
[08:02] <ttmrichter> goldfingermafia: chmod +w filename
[08:02] <ttmrichter> For now ignore the numbers.
[08:02] <n0kZ> sweet
[08:02] <goldfingermafia> k thanks, im on a macbook so i will have to plug in a mouse lol
[08:02] <cchance_> omg, this is tempting me to go to ME
[08:02] <n0kZ> im not alone then
[08:02] <goldfingermafia> oh ok ty very much guys
[08:02] <cchance_> windows ME*
[08:02] <Greyscale> cchance_...
[08:02] <Greyscale> erm...
[08:02] <n0kZ> wow windows
[08:02] <fusheh> lmao
[08:02] <Greyscale> are we allowed to tar and feather people still?
[08:02] <n0kZ> you have nice console
[08:02] <ttmrichter> goldfingermafia: if you're in the GUI, you'll have to right-click and select properties...->permissions.
[08:03] <K`zan> Hi folks, I installed the nvidia drivers and now to get X up I have to log in a root, rmmod nvidia, modprobe nvidia and restart kdm, what did I miss?
[08:03] <cchance_> sorry, i got to get out of thsi thing i only get every 5th line now
[08:03] <n0kZ> windows have such nice console called blue screen
[08:03] <disinterested> windows ME is horrible
[08:03] <asd> hi whats speak spanish??
[08:03] <LukeEkblad> HI
[08:03] <K`zan> disinterested: ME was the worst thing m$ ever put out.
[08:03] <Greyscale> !sp
[08:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:03] <blind> !sp > asd
[08:03] <Greyscale> !es
[08:03] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:03] <DarthShrine> !es | asd
[08:03] <ubotu> asd: please see above
[08:03] <n2diy> ! es | asd
[08:03] <LukeEkblad> Hi?
[08:03] <ubotu> asd: please see above
[08:03] <blind> es, my bad.
[08:03] <blind> lol
[08:03] <disinterested> theres no doubt about that
[08:03] <ttmrichter> K'zan: MS BOB was the worst thing MS ever put out.
[08:04] <asd> alquin habla espaol??
[08:04] <K`zan> ttmrichter: I stand corrected :-)
[08:04] <LukeEkblad> I have a question, Why did my sound quality go down when i switched to ubuntu?
[08:04] <goldfingermafia> when i right click on the file it says you are not the owner so you canont change premissions
[08:04] <chealdo> pls help still my genius scanner never works, where will i put this firmware file to my ubuntu feisty
[08:04] <helloyo> could somebody please help me lame process a whole directory?
[08:04] <LukeEkblad> hola
[08:04] <cchance_> wo
[08:04] <cchance_> that was alot of lag
[08:04] <brunner> so as of my last upgrade, I can't connect to wireless networks.  I can see them, but my wireless card won't associate. I tried reverting to the last kernel, but it didn't make a difference. has anyone else had this problem?
[08:04] <slavik> helloyo: learn to script :)
[08:04] <inayet> Hello, I am using ubuntu fiesty and I cannot get my external sound card Creative SoundBlaster to work. When I click on system --> preferences--->sound and then click on TEST button I can hear a BEEP noise. However, when I attempt to play streaming audio through various websites I cannot hear any sound. Please help me with fixing this problem. I want to discard WINDOWS permanently only if I can get my external sound card to work with ubuntu. My external sou
[08:04] <inayet> nd card works with Windows.
[08:04] <slavik> inayet: gstreamer-properties :)
[08:05] <goldfingermafia> anyone know how to make a file non read only when it says i am not the owner?
[08:05] <helloyo> slavik, how long will it take until i can do that? all i want to do is take the file, encode it, and replace the old file
[08:05] <Squalish> please be more specific than "Creative Soundblaster," as that encompasses maybe half the available soundcard models
[08:05] <n0kZ> lmao
[08:06] <inayet> slavik: should I type "gstreamer-properties" in the console ?
[08:06] <slavik> helloyo: 5min? a shell script is basically a list of commands :)
[08:06] <n2diy> n0kZ: quick, where is your {} keys?
[08:06] <helloyo> slavik: thanks, i'll get learning
[08:06] <slavik> inayet: yes, or system -> prefs -> multimedia preferences
[08:06] <RAOF> helloyo: for I in *.wav ; do lame -i $I ; done
 n0kZ: quick, where is your {} keys?<---lol
[08:06] <goldfingermafia> anyone have any sugestionsfor me? i really need soem help on how to unlock this file
[08:06] <n0kZ> go away
[08:06] <n0kZ> your scaring me
[08:07] <gumpman> hello everyone
[08:07] <LukeEkblad> Hi :)
[08:07] <slavik> helloyo: a shells cript would allow you encode all files in a single directory and even to traverse directories encoding files ...
[08:07] <n0kZ> die hard gets 78% on RT?
[08:07] <blind> goldfingermafia: open a terminal. find the file. type chmod 777 filename
[08:07] <n0kZ> did i miss sumthing?
[08:07] <helloyo> RAOF: thanks, i think i get what you mean, i'll give it a try
[08:07] <n2diy> n0kZ: number row, shift - and +, learn your dvorak! :)
[08:07] <ianmcorvidae> lol
[08:07] <slavik> download 10gig of wav, fire up the script, walk away for 30min you come back and all files are converted to ogg or some other format
[08:07] <blind> I use dvorak :D
[08:07] <RAOF> helloyo: "man bash" will help
[08:08] <n0kZ> n2diy: getting there
[08:08] <K`zan> Hi folks, I installed the nvidia drivers and now to get X up I have to log in a root, rmmod nvidia, modprobe nvidia and restart kdm, what did I miss?
[08:08] <inayet> slavik: I have done that, what should I do now?
[08:08] <goldfingermafia> the file is in etc/kismet/kismet.conf
[08:08] <n0kZ> n2diy: a couple of exercises more
[08:08] <goldfingermafia> so is that what i would type in as the file name?
[08:08] <n2diy> n0kZ: do some perl programing, and you'll learn were all those "funny" keys are.
[08:09] <ianmcorvidae> n2diy: Or just pay attention :P
[08:09] <ProN00b> K`zan, you missed installing the nvidia drivers from apt-get
[08:09] <n2diy> n0kZ: ok, quick, where is your []  keys?
[08:09] <ianmcorvidae> lol
[08:09] <slavik> inayet: did you switch to alsa?
[08:09] <K`zan> ProN00b: Wasn't aware you could do that with the prop dirvers.
[08:10] <ProN00b> K`zan, you can and you should
[08:10] <K`zan> ProN00b: Looking for it now, will reinstall from that.
[08:10] <K`zan> ProN00b: Thanks.
[08:11] <ianmcorvidae> I used to have pirated versions of all those.
[08:11] <ianmcorvidae> Oops.
[08:11] <ianmcorvidae> I mean, I don't pirate, and that was in the right channel :P
[08:11] <inayet> slavik: for the audio default input and output plugin I have chosen ALSA, but when I click on the test button I do not hear any sound.
[08:11] <K`zan> ProN00b: Not showing up in adept...
[08:11] <K`zan> ProN00b: only the free drivers.
[08:11] <n0kZ> this is nasty
[08:11] <goldfingermafia> what would i type in the terminal if the file is in etc/kismet/kismet.conf for the file name?
[08:12] <fusheh> Location of the file is always good :o
[08:12] <slavik> inayet: hmm, I dunno ... maybe there is no alsa driver ...
[08:12] <n2diy> goldfingermafia: /etc/kismet/kismet.conf?
[08:12] <ProN00b> K`zan, already activated universe and multiverse ?
[08:12] <goldfingermafia> that is were the file is located
[08:13] <r0b-> how much does it cost to activate my ubuntu
[08:13] <K`zan> ProN00b: Yes.
[08:13] <fusheh> goldfingermafia: so you tell us xP
[08:13] <n2diy> goldfingermafia: yah.
[08:13] <goldfingermafia> what?
[08:13] <ProN00b> K`zan, lemme look up the package name
[08:13] <goldfingermafia> i am so noob to liunx what dose that mean
[08:13] <n2diy> goldfingermafia: what do you want to do to/with it?
[08:13] <inayet> slavik: when I click on system--->preferences---> sound and then click on TEST button I hear a BEEP noise. Anyways, how can I install an alsa driver?
[08:14] <ProN00b> K`zan, package name is nvidia-glx
[08:14] <slavik> inayet: you can't because it would've probably been included if there was one ... check alsa page for your card
[08:14] <goldfingermafia> oh i want to make it be abold to be writtin to it is read only, and when i go to properties it says you do not have presmission to change this
[08:14] <K`zan> ProN00b: Everything checked under Kubuntu Software.
[08:14] <jeremysan> A few days ago I bought a D-Link WUA-1340 wireless USB stick for internet.  For these last few days I've been trying to make it work but no matter what I try it isn't working.  Is there anyone out there who has any recommendations for me?  I gaurantee I've tried almost any link you will send me to guide me.
[08:15] <ProN00b> K`zan ? you don't have the nvidia-glx package ?
[08:15] <n2diy> goldfingermafia: then try sudo /etc/kismet/kismet.conf?
[08:15] <ProN00b> K`zan, try apt-get install nvidia-glx from console
[08:15] <K`zan> ProN00b: Yes, got that but it looks like it is for the free drivers ?!?
[08:15] <goldfingermafia> will it didnt say it failed let me try and tahnks
[08:16] <n2diy> goldfingermafia: GL
[08:16] <K`zan> ProN00b: Ah, I am obviously confused :-).  THanks :-)!
[08:17] <Hitomaro> hey
[08:17] <ProN00b> K`zan, no, its short description is "nvidia-glx - NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver" it is the closed source driver, and on top of that a version of it that has been tested to work with ubuntu and is integrated good
[08:17] <goldfingermafia> it didn't work anything else i can try?
[08:17] <Hitomaro> how do I make one tab for everything?
[08:17] <K`zan> ProN00b: Ok, installed, lemme reboot and see if it works !
[08:17] <Hitomaro> is there a tab enable button?
[08:17] <ProN00b> K`zan, it will show up on restricted drivers
[08:17] <ProN00b> cya
[08:17] <n2diy> goldfingermafia: did you get an error?
[08:17] <fusheh> goldfingermafia: why not gksudo gedit it?
[08:18] <goldfingermafia> how do i do that?
[08:18] <Anubis> lol
[08:18] <helloRobot> what can i type in terminal to get status of harddrive (space used vs. space available, etc)
[08:18] <goldfingermafia> i didnt get an error it jsut wont let me edit it yet?
[08:18] <cafuego> helloRobot: 'df'
[08:18] <ewook> helloRobot: 'df -m
[08:18] <ewook> '
[08:18] <n2diy> goldfingermafia: ok, I was hoping it would run on its own.
[08:18] <SeaGateIsNot>  could someone help me out, i installed beryl, and i get xserver error messages...
[08:19] <n2diy> goldfingermafia: then try sudo gedit /etc/kismet/kismet.conf?
[08:19] <fusheh> goldfingermafia: gksudo gedit /path/to/file
[08:19] <goldfingermafia> n2diy it said cannon find getit
[08:19] <helloRobot> ewook: this is strange. when i use 'p' command in fdisk for /dev/sdb i see that it is a 250.0GB harddrive
[08:19] <goldfingermafia> and i tryed gksudo and it did nothing
[08:19] <helloRobot> ewook: but 'df -m' reports 100321 :(
[08:20] <fusheh> goldfingermafia: did you copy and paste exactly what n2diy typed? ...lol
[08:20] <n2diy> goldfingermafia: double check your spelling on the command line.
[08:20] <goldfingermafia> yes
[08:20] <ewook> helloRobot: and sdb is mounted as?
[08:20] <helloRobot> ewook: sdb is mounted as /home/share
[08:20] <varka> goldfingermafia: kubuntu or ubuntu?
[08:20] <ewook> helloRobot: the whole drive? then it's weird
[08:20] <SeaGateIsNot>  could someone help me out, i installed beryl, and i get xserver error messages...
[08:20] <n2diy> goldfingermafia: fusheh, without the ?
[08:21] <goldfingermafia> ahhhh it worked lol ty somuch guys
[08:21] <helloRobot> ewook: yes the whole drive..
[08:21] <goldfingermafia> ya i left the ? lol
[08:21] <troopperi_> goldfingermafia: gksudo gedit /etc/kismet/kismet.conf
[08:21] <fusheh> n2diy: I thought that was a given, my bad
[08:21] <goldfingermafia> ty very much guys
[08:21] <n2diy> goldfingermafia: fusheh, mine too. :)
[08:21] <fusheh> goldfingermafia: np xD
[08:22] <Squalish> Trying to boot normal 32bit liveCD: Busybox v1.1.3... /bin/sh:can't access tty; job control turned off (initramfs) [41.278874]  ata1: port failed to respond (30 secs, Status 0xd0)
[08:22] <Squalish> Ubuntu 7.04
[08:22] <Squalish> did this once, and after ten minutes ubuntu succesfull loaded - but it doesn't look like it's doing the same thing anymore
[08:22] <strangerson> i am new to ubuntu.. how do i get controll of managing the files?
[08:23] <MajorPayne> strangerson: What do you mean?
[08:23] <Squalish> any idea what my problem is?
[08:23] <goldfingermafia> any of you guys have expericance with kismet it still wont work for me
[08:23] <strangerson> i can not do anything in the files
[08:23] <MajorPayne> strangerson: What files?
[08:23] <ewook> strangerson: depends on what files.
[08:23] <strangerson> file drive
[08:24] <n2diy> strangerson: places > home folder
[08:24] <strangerson> do not have premition to make changes
[08:24] <SanityInAnarchy> Is there a way to boot Ubuntu/Kubuntu CDs without starting X?
[08:24] <n2diy> strangerson: to the files in your home folder!?
[08:25] <strangerson> yep
[08:25] <jcsolorzano> hi
[08:25] <iammisc> SanityInAnarchy: i dunno, why?
[08:25] <jcsolorzano> can someone help me?
[08:25] <MajorPayne> !hi | strangerson
[08:25] <ubotu> strangerson: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:25] <strangerson> thanks :)
[08:25] <MajorPayne> !ask | jcsolorzano
[08:25] <ubotu> jcsolorzano: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:25] <Fyda> !ask
[08:25] <SanityInAnarchy> iammisc: old computer  (the #kubuntu people didn't know either)
[08:25] <Keith-BlindUser> Does anyone know of a good ogg vorbiss encoder for the console? I.e. Lame does Mp3, etc? I need one. I intend to pipe arecord from doing wave, to using an encoder for oggs. I am going to do a podcast in ogg form.
[08:25] <fusheh> Squalish: Doesn't sound good xP
[08:26] <jcsolorzano> when i try to upgrade ubuntu to 7.04 version i get Authentication failed
[08:26] <Keith-BlindUser> But have no encoder.
[08:26] <SanityInAnarchy> moving on to #linux...
[08:26] <jcsolorzano> what can I do?
[08:26] <Keith-BlindUser> Or I don't know the name of any, at least.
[08:26] <iammisc> SanityInAnarchy: maybe ubuntu's not the distro for you, how about plain debian
[08:26] <Squalish> it loaded once successfully, where I was able to use the partition utility to resize my winXP partition :(
[08:26] <iammisc> SanityInAnarchy,i'm there too
[08:26] <n2diy> strangerson: right click on a file in your home folder, select properties, and then permissions, can you change them there?
[08:26] <Squalish> I don't see what the difference is
[08:26] <SanityInAnarchy> iammisc:  Nope, I want ubuntu server
[08:26] <fusheh> Squalish: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=421588 may help
[08:26] <SanityInAnarchy> problem is, the server itself isn't a very good livecd
[08:26] <iammisc> Isn't that CLI anyway?
[08:26] <SanityInAnarchy> erm, the server install CD isn't
[08:27] <strangerson> only root has permition
[08:27] <SanityInAnarchy> I need to do things like take an image, test my hardware, etc
[08:27] <SanityInAnarchy> before I install
[08:27] <MajorPayne> strangerson: Only root has permision to your home directory?
[08:27] <n2diy> strangerson: sounds like you aren't in your home folder.
[08:27] <jcsolorzano> when i try to upgrade ubuntu to 7.04 version i get Authentication failed, what can I do?
[08:27] <nuke_> I'm running ./config and I've got "Checking for X...configure: error: Can't find X libraries." how do I get around it?
[08:27] <SanityInAnarchy> and I'm currently of blank CDs, so it's going to be annoying if there isn't a way
[08:27] <helloRobot> how do i run /etc/fstab to mount new entries?
[08:27] <strangerson> to any directory but the desktop as far as i can tell
[08:27] <fusheh> MajorPayne: I hope I have some too D:
[08:28] <Squalish> Flusheh - I've been reading another thread that went on for pages and pages without IDing the problem
[08:28] <MajorPayne> strangerson: You only have permissions to /home/yourusername/
[08:28] <Squalish> I get to wondering why this wasn't a mission-critical fix for release of 7.04
[08:28] <n2diy> strangerson: cd to /home/yourname, can you play with those files?
[08:28] <MajorPayne> strangerson: You normaly don't have to change other files very much.  When you do you have to use sudo
[08:28] <strangerson> yes
[08:28] <helloRobot> how do i refresh /etc/fstab without rebooting?
[08:28] <fusheh> Squalish: I have you tested out that fix yet?
[08:29] <Squalish> reading it through
[08:29] <strangerson> trying to install NWN and it will not let me drop it in the default directory
[08:29] <n2diy> strangerson: yes, then, at this point, that is all you need to worry about, let the system play with the other files.
[08:30] <nuke_> hey guys, I'm running ./config and I've got "Checking for X...configure: error: Can't find X libraries." how do I get around it?
[08:31] <helloRobot> how to format a partition? delete all data on partition?
[08:31] <MajorPayne> strangerson: Neverwinter Nights?
[08:31] <Squalish> flusheh - how do I end adding that line, a space?
[08:31] <jcsolorzano> can someone please help me?
[08:31] <jcsolorzano> :(
[08:32] <SanityInAnarchy> wow. What idiot designed these CDs, then?
[08:32] <n2diy> jcsolorzano: no, we don't know what the question is?
[08:32] <jcsolorzano> already did
[08:32] <Chikubu> hey people, my swap partrition is not being used, swapon -s shows nothing and free shows 0 swap....i am pretty sure its a UUID problem....blkid lists one UUID and  ls -la /dev/disk/by-uuid lists a diffrent UUID....fstab has the UUID listed by  ls -la /dev/disk/by-uuid.............anyideas?
[08:32] <jcsolorzano> when i try to upgrade ubuntu to 7.04 version i get Authentication failed, what can I do?
[08:32] <SanityInAnarchy> am I actually going to have to use init=/bin/bash?
[08:32] <n0kZ> lmao
[08:32] <jcsolorzano> when i try to upgrade ubuntu to 7.04 version i get Authentication failed, what can I do?
[08:32] <mikaragua> is it ok to boot ubuntu 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT  as text based and not loading the gui or xwindow?
[08:33] <fusheh> Squalish: check out how to use vim
[08:33] <mikaragua> is it ok to boot ubuntu 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT  as text based and not loading the gui or xwindow cuz this will be used as a webserver/dns server only and not a desktop?
[08:33] <Squalish> urgh? what's vim got to do w/ anything?
[08:33] <n2diy> jcsolorzano: how are you upgrading, via CD?
[08:33] <jcsolorzano>  no
[08:33] <fusheh> Squalish: You wanted to add that line..."piix" I assume? o.o
[08:33] <jcsolorzano> I had to install ubuntu 6.10 cause 7.04 gave me some screen errors
[08:33] <n2diy> jcsolorzano: how are you upgrading, via?
[08:33] <Squalish> Boot Options
[08:34] <jcsolorzano> update manager
[08:34] <Squalish> need to add break=top
[08:34] <Squalish> don't know how to seperate that command from the others
[08:34] <goldfingermafia> anyone here that can help me with kismet getting it started?
[08:34] <Squalish> ;? \? space?
[08:34] <goldfingermafia> it says FATAL:  Could not find user 'your_user_here' for dropping priviledges.  Make sure you have a valid user set for 'suiduser' in your config file.  See the 'Installation & Security' and 'Configuration' sections of the README file for more information.
[08:34] <n2diy> jcsolorzano: what is your current Ubuntu version?
[08:34] <jcsolorzano> 6.10
[08:34] <fusheh> Squalish: not sure, your guess is as good as mine xP
[08:35] <Keith-BlindUser> 
[08:35] <n2diy> ! upgrade | jcsolorzano
[08:35] <ubotu> jcsolorzano: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[08:35] <Chikubu> no ideas about my swap problem?
[08:35] <fusheh> goldfingermafia: looks like it's looking for a user. Maybe if you read the README it can help you.
[08:35] <jcsolorzano> and if I upgrade, do i lose all my info and config?
[08:36] <Squalish> if 6.10 is the current Ubuntu version, what's 7.04?
[08:36] <goldfingermafia> i read it, did what it said, posted on the fourms did what they said, and it still wont work for me
[08:36] <fusheh> goldfingermafia: Odds are though if you edit the config file and set a user for "suiduser" that will help.
[08:36] <Squalish> erm
[08:36] <n2diy> jcsolorzano, if you don't have a seperate /home directory, you may?
[08:36] <Squalish> nvm, misread that :)
[08:36] <fusheh> Squalish: 7.04 is the current xP
[08:37] <goldfingermafia> i did that, i set it to waht my log in is for ubuntu, is that correct? that is the only thing im not shure about
[08:37] <fusheh> goldfingermafia: doesn't look like you set it.
[08:37] <jcsolorzano> thanks!
[08:37] <Keith-BlindUser> Did anyone get my question on an ogg vorbiss encoder package for the console? Lame only does Mp3.
[08:37] <Hitomaro> why can't I watch stage6 videos?
[08:37] <goldfingermafia> i set it in etc/kismet/kismet.conf
[08:37] <goldfingermafia> is that not the right file?
[08:37] <fusheh> goldfingermafia: make sure you saved it....
[08:37] <Hitomaro> why isn't is streaming?
[08:38] <goldfingermafia> i did lol
[08:39] <goldfingermafia> then i went back and checked it to make shure it is changed and it is
[08:39] <goldfingermafia> there is a # infront of it, should that be there?
[08:39] <fusheh> goldfingermafia: no, that makes it a comment lol
[08:39] <n2diy> goldfingermafia: no, delete the #
[08:40] <kraut> moin
[08:40] <goldfingermafia> is there anyway i can send you the file so you can check this out, im so confuesd
[08:40] <n2diy> fusheh: your fast! :)
[08:40] <goldfingermafia> and i so want to get this program to work
[08:40] <fusheh> Keith-BlindUser: oggEnc
[08:40] <fusheh> n2diy: Thanks xP
[08:40] <Squalish> flusheh - tried the first step there, and all it appears to do is kick me to the same error (with less details), but this time disable my USB keyboard
[08:40] <dev_0> OLA
[08:40] <defrysk> !info oggconvert
[08:40] <ubotu> Package oggconvert does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:41] <defrysk> dang
[08:41] <fusheh> Squalish: lol! Uhmm D:
[08:41] <n2diy> goldfingermafia: no, delete the #, and don't forget to save the changes.
[08:41] <dev_0> !INFO
[08:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about info - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:41] <goldfingermafia> i tryed that, and same error
[08:41] <brunner> in order to boot windows within linux, I need to install wmware workstation in linux or windows?
[08:42] <dev_0> !HELP
[08:42] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:42] <fusheh> brunner: vmware in linux.....
[08:42] <n2diy> goldfingermafia: double check, and make sure the # is gone.
[08:42] <brunner> fusheh: yeah, I thought so, but the downloads on vmware don't ask what OS I'm using, so I wasn't sure if it was packaged together or something
[08:42] <xoRock> brunner, use qemu, most people says its faster than vmware
[08:43] <goldfingermafia> i did, then i put it back, then i delected it again
[08:43] <goldfingermafia> im so confused
[08:43] <fusheh> brunner: assuming you are using ubuntu I believe vmware is in the repos?
[08:43] <dev_0> hello
[08:43] <n2diy> goldfingermafia: double check, and make sure the # is gone. And leave it that way.
[08:44] <dev_0> anybody know what is the diffrent between the latest ubuntu with the old one
[08:44] <fusheh> brunner: looking at the download page for vmware workstation it clearly has two different downloads. One for windows and one for *nix.
[08:45] <inayet> Hello, I am using ubuntu fiesty and I cannot get my external sound card Creative SoundBlaster to work. When I click on system --> preferences--->sound and then click on TEST button I can hear a BEEP noise. However, when I attempt to play streaming audio through various websites I cannot hear any sound. Please help me with fixing this problem. I want to discard WINDOWS permanently only if I can get my external sound card to work with ubuntu. My external sou
[08:45] <inayet> nd card works with Windows.
[08:46] <ProN00b> inayet, you sure the streaming audio of that pages work on linux ? those pages sometimes use windows technology
[08:46] <n2diy> goldfingermafia: ???
[08:48] <Hitomaro> one question people
[08:48] <Hitomaro> one question
[08:48] <inayet> ProNOOb: I cant any sound, can you suggest a webpage that has sound which works with linux?
[08:48] <MISTERTibbs> Hitomaro, !
[08:48] <Hitomaro> how do I play stage6 divx videos?
[08:48] <FruitieX> inayet: can you play ANY sound files?
[08:48] <fusheh> Squalish: any solutions yet?
[08:48] <astro76> Hitomaro, click the icon to save the file, not stream it
[08:48] <MISTERTibbs> Hitomaro, did u get that problem from the other night solved???
[08:48] <FruitieX> Hitomaro: installing the package "ubuntu-restricted-extras" should hel
[08:49] <FruitieX> help*
[08:49] <astro76> Hitomaro, save or open with totem
[08:49] <Hitomaro> MISTERTibbs, I think I need to install what FruitieX suggested to do
[08:49] <Hitomaro> thanks
[08:49] <FruitieX> or install the package i told you to get all codecs :)
[08:49] <Hitomaro> :)
[08:49] <Squalish> flusheh: it kicks me back into the same error
[08:49] <goldfingermafia> n2diy i figured it out ty for all your help and putting up with my stupid questions lol
[08:49] <dev_0> does ubuntu 7 support all the wireleess adapter
[08:49] <FruitieX> np
[08:49] <Squalish> but it's gone through two or three consecutively numbers cycles now
[08:50] <Squalish> which is what it did last time it booted, after ten minutes
[08:50] <Squalish> Meanwhile, I'm browsing 21 thousand google hits on the subject
[08:50] <FruitieX> then try to play it in totem just in case it DIDN'T get the divx codecs :)
[08:50] <fusheh> Squalish: what error do you get again?
[08:50] <Hitomaro> ok FruitieX
[08:51] <Hitomaro> (:
[08:51] <Squalish> is busybox just a debugger?
[08:51] <ben_> how do i act as "root"?
[08:51] <LukeEkblad> hi
[08:51] <inayet> FruitieX: I cant hear any sound.
[08:51] <FruitieX> Hitomaro: IF the package can't be found, you have to enable the restricted repo
[08:51] <LukeEkblad> i have a question
[08:51] <Squalish> I get several lines of errors
[08:51] <Tidus> ubotu: tell ben_ about sudo
[08:51] <FruitieX> ben_: use sudo
[08:51] <Massey> we all have questions :P
[08:51] <ben_> ok...
[08:51] <Squalish> it starts with /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[08:51] <ben_> ?
[08:51] <LukeEkblad> How do I get Kiba Dock?
[08:51] <Massey> so many people
[08:51] <Hitomaro> downloading :)
[08:52] <LukeEkblad> :D
[08:52] <LukeEkblad> Really :(
[08:52] <ben_> thanks
[08:52] <FruitieX> ben_: so to run a command as root you type this into the console: sudo aptitude (for example)
[08:52] <ben_> :)
[08:52] <astro76> !sudo | ben_
[08:52] <ubotu> ben_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:52] <Squalish> then there's [167.417933]  ata1.01:exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen
[08:52] <bagualas> I'm thinking that My pc isn't using the SWAP... is there a way to test it?
[08:52] <ben_> ta :)
[08:52] <inayet> FruitieX:  what would you recommend?
[08:52] <FruitieX> inayet: Are you sure you have turned up the volume for the right channel? :)
[08:52] <Squalish> [167.47975]  ata1.01 (BMDMA stat 0x65)
[08:52] <fusheh> Squalish: can you pastebin the entire error?
[08:52] <Squalish> et cetera et cetera
[08:53] <MajorPayne> ben_: If you want a root terminal you can also type 'sudo -i'.
[08:53] <Squalish> different machine
[08:53] <FruitieX> or sudo su :)
[08:53] <Squalish> and not quite sure how to copy from the livecd boot console and then have it preserved into windows
[08:53] <ninja> k I downloaded the ubuntu linux thingy because my windows has too much viruses but I double click it and it doesn't do anything
[08:54] <FruitieX> inayet: so you hear the beep from the sound test? that means that your soundcard is supported...
[08:54] <ninja> how do I install linux?
[08:54] <Hitomaro> FruitieX: so I installed it
[08:54] <FruitieX> ninja: you have to burn the iso file to a cd
[08:54] <Squalish> flusheh: lemme see if I can dig up some screenshots from other people
[08:54] <MajorPayne> ninja: You have to first burn it to a cd.
[08:54] <FruitieX> Hitomaro: does it work now?
[08:54] <TylerJones32> Hello, I have a problem with my laptop and Ubuntu
[08:54] <astro76> !install | ninja
[08:54] <ubotu> ninja: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[08:54] <ninja> ty
[08:54] <fusheh> Squalish: ahh okay! :] 
[08:54] <TylerJones32> I used to have it installed, but then removed it and reinstalled windows
[08:54] <LukeEkblad> Dose naybody know how or where to install Kiba Dock?
[08:54] <inayet> FruitieX: when i click on system---->preferences--------->sound I can only hear a BEEP noise when I have the setting on USB Audio.
[08:55] <TylerJones32> and now whenever i put in any ubuntu live cd
[08:55] <TylerJones32> I get some weird error messages coming up with SB_Bread
[08:55] <TylerJones32> fs_squash
[08:55] <TylerJones32> and a few more I cant exactly remember
[08:55] <Hitomaro> FruitieX: no :(
[08:55] <TylerJones32> any solutions? :S
[08:55] <Hitomaro> how do I enable it on firefox?
[08:55] <FruitieX> inayet: Have you checked the other tabs in the sound settings tool?
[08:56] <FruitieX> eg. enable all "play" to your USB Audio
[08:56] <sharadg> hi all
[08:56] <Chikubu> could i get some volunteers???  anyone with latest version of ubuntu check their swap size by typing "free | grep Swap" in terminal...i think the last upgrade killed swap, at least on my system i get 0  0  0
[08:56] <FruitieX> and all record too, and multimedia or whatever it days
[08:56] <Hitomaro> FruitieX: I can't get it to work.. what do I do?
[08:56] <FruitieX> says*
[08:56] <FruitieX> hmm
[08:56] <Hitomaro> where is it located?
[08:56] <sharadg> has anybody able to install pygaim ?
[08:56] <Squalish> flusheh: it starts with this: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/7176359/ubuntu-6.06lts-tty.jpg
[08:56] <Hitomaro> is it just codecs?
[08:57] <FruitieX> Hitomaro: You tried with totem?
[08:57] <Hitomaro> totem?
[08:57] <FruitieX> yeah
[08:57] <Hitomaro> oh right
[08:57] <FruitieX> it's included in ubuntu
[08:57] <MajorPayne> Chikubu: My swap is fine.
[08:57] <Hitomaro> but how do I make that my default player for firefox
[08:57] <FruitieX> hold alt+F2 abnd type totem
[08:57] <Hitomaro> stage6 is a streaming site
[08:57] <FruitieX> eww
[08:58] <Chikubu> is that last upgrade your running MajorPayne
[08:58] <FruitieX> I have totem as default player in firefox :)
[08:58] <Chikubu> 704 i think
[08:58] <fusheh> Squalish: Yeah I'm reading that as well lol.
[08:58] <astro76> Hitomaro, the streaming on stage6 won't work, you have to click the save icon
[08:58] <FruitieX> Hitomaro: what player do you have?
[08:58] <astro76> and then open with totem
[08:58] <MajorPayne> Chikubu: I am running 7.04 fully updated.
[08:58] <FruitieX> Hitomaro: I would save it too
[08:58] <Hitomaro> I have totem
[08:58] <Chikubu> bummer
[08:58] <doms> how to use pastebin
[08:58] <Massey> I'm having issues with totem
[08:58] <FruitieX> Hitomaro: try downloading the video, then playback it in totem
[08:59] <FruitieX> see if that works
[08:59] <Hitomaro> oh
[08:59] <Massey> I'm trying to get the codecs to work on it
[08:59] <inayet> <FruitieX: what do you mean have checked other tabs in the sound setting tool?
[08:59] <Phaqui> I was wondering if it is possible to play a game via wine, but in another "tty"?
[08:59] <Massey> i've installed the ubuntu restricted extras package
[08:59] <doms> is their any pastebin
[08:59] <Chikubu> ive read about some UUID problems with 704 which i seem to be encountering, something about two modules being mered into one in the kenrel that used to contorl hda and sda drives seperatly causing uuid to go haywire
[08:59] <Massey> but it's like... when I play a video it plays the sound but no picture
[08:59] <Hitomaro> it would be better to be able to see previous of the video rather than downloading the whole thing finding out that it wasn't what I was looking for
[08:59] <Massey> what's with that?
[08:59] <astro76> !pastebin > doms
[09:00] <Hitomaro> previews*
[09:00] <doms> yeap
[09:00] <Hitomaro> not previous
[09:00] <FruitieX> inayet: there are other tabs in system -> settings -> sound?
[09:00] <TylerJones32> ok wtf, why doesnt my laptop want to work with ubuntu?
[09:00] <TylerJones32> It works fine with Fedora
[09:00] <TylerJones32> and the liveCD works on my desktop computer
[09:00] <Chikubu> oh well reboot time, see if changing fstab helps
[09:00] <FruitieX> TylerJones32: more info?
[09:00] <TylerJones32> ok, well first, I had ubuntu a while back, but I removed it after about a month of use
[09:00] <inayet> FruitieX: I have checked other options but the only time I hear a BEEP noise is when the USB Audio option is chosen.
[09:00] <TylerJones32> then I decided to install it again, but then I had a problem with it, so I uninstalled again
[09:00] <bruenig|laptop> use fedora then
[09:01] <n2diy> goldfingermafia:GL
[09:01] <MajorPayne> TylerJones32: You didn't tell us what is not worknig.
[09:01] <TylerJones32> now i wanted to install over windows
[09:01] <TylerJones32> and keep it
[09:01] <FruitieX> inayet: do you have a USB audio card?  :)
[09:01] <TylerJones32> im getting to that ;)
[09:01] <TylerJones32> so now
[09:01] <bruenig|laptop> TylerJones32, if fedora works why not use it?
[09:01] <bruenig|laptop> !enter | TylerJones32
[09:01] <TylerJones32> Well there are too many problems with Fedora on my laptop, ubuntu would always work perfectly
[09:01] <TylerJones32> !enter?
[09:01] <TylerJones32> anyway
[09:01] <Squalish> flusheh: after that, the error messages posted seem to be highly customized
[09:01] <TylerJones32> so whenever I boot up the live cd on my laptop
[09:01] <bruenig|laptop> bot is supposed to tell you to keep your stuff on one line
[09:01] <ubotu> TylerJones32: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about enter? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:02] <bruenig|laptop> there he goes
[09:02] <masterloki> hey
[09:02] <masterloki> anyone know how to make a deb by uninstalling something to it?
[09:02] <FruitieX> Tyletjones32: yes?
[09:02] <Flannel> masterloki: what?
[09:02] <TylerJones32> k sorry, so every time I boot up with the live cd, it gets to the loading screen, but it stays there for 15-20 minutes, then it will go away and come up with many errors
[09:02] <Squalish> flusheh: Mine sticks with ata5.01 or ata5.05, then gives errors ranging from exception emask, revalidation failed, port failed to respond
[09:02] <bruenig|laptop> masterloki, like instead of deleting the files moving them into a directory and debbing it all up
[09:02] <FruitieX> Tylerjones32: Tryy the alternate cd
[09:02] <masterloki> Flannel, well emerald is broken right now
[09:03] <masterloki> in gutsy
[09:03] <TylerJones32> some including things like fs_squash, sb_bread and unable to allocate block [number] 
[09:03] <bruenig|laptop> masterloki, #ubuntu+1
[09:03] <masterloki> so on my system i would like to extract to a package and send to roomate
[09:03] <masterloki> bruenig, sure sure
[09:03] <masterloki> its a known bug
[09:03] <TylerJones32> well, if the live cd wouldnt work
[09:03] <Flannel> masterloki: check your cache for the deb you have
[09:03] <masterloki> but for now i want a diff solution which is why i bring that up :D
[09:03] <masterloki> Flannel, no can do i apt-get clean it all the time
[09:03] <TylerJones32> how would the alternate CD work?
[09:03] <masterloki> lol
[09:03] <fusheh> Squalish: I dont get what a livecd wants with a hd? And how that could make it fail to boot?
[09:03] <masterloki> TylerJones32, awesomely
[09:03] <masterloki> its a text based installer but i recommed one thing
[09:03] <FruitieX> it doesn't use the live ubuntu desktop at all
[09:03] <bruenig|laptop> masterloki, you want to deb the entire filesystem?
[09:03] <Flannel> masterloki: Well, you could see if your version is still in the repos.
[09:04] <masterloki> do not have it autodetect keyboard
[09:04] <brandon_> What kind of sever must i setup to Host a Telnet session
[09:04] <masterloki> Flannel, it wont install
[09:04] <LukeEkblad> Anyone know where to install kiba dock?
[09:04] <TylerJones32> but ok, if I install Ubuntu, wont it come up with those same errors at some point?
[09:04] <MajorPayne> brandon_: You may want to try ssh.
[09:04] <FruitieX> TylerJones32: it works if the live envirnoment doesn't worl from the livecd
[09:04] <MajorPayne> brandon_: It's more secure.
[09:04] <FruitieX> work*
[09:04] <masterloki> i.e. they took it out Flannel
[09:04] <FruitieX> TylerJones32: not neccessarily
[09:04] <foug> does anyone know how to enable AUTH SSL and Secure Listing for konqueror?
[09:04] <inayet> FruitieX: I have an external sound card from Creative SoundBlaster
[09:04] <ShockValue> stupid question, but is Ubuntu pretty much like Debian, but more cutting edge? im trying to get a feel for which distro i might try
[09:04] <brandon_> Thank you
[09:04] <TylerJones32> ok, well ill try it..How exactly to I burn an iso to a cd using fedora? any applications?
[09:05] <Squalish> The speculation I read is that it's about how Ubuntu handles SATA CDROMs(which I don't THINK mine is, but I could check), how it handles the lack of floppy drives (I don't have one)
[09:05] <FruitieX> inayet: what model is it?
[09:05] <n2diy> ShockValue: yes
[09:05] <Squalish> or at least, those were the two most understandable rumors
[09:05] <bruenig|laptop> TylerJones32, cdrecord dev=/dev/whatever foo.iso
[09:05] <FruitieX> whoa, pidgin crashed :)
[09:05] <TylerJones32> ok thanks bruenig :)
[09:05] <ShockValue> n2diy - well i guess ill give it a go then.. sounds like it might be waht im lookin for
[09:05] <FruitieX> Tylerjones32: try k3b
[09:06] <FruitieX> or did you get 1 already? :)
[09:06] <ubunben> hi all, is there an issue with vmware-server latest on feisty? i am having difficulties atm, installed it fine 2 days ago
[09:06] <FruitieX> uh oh, netsplit
[09:06] <ubunben> indeed
[09:06] <TylerJones32> k3b, is that a recording app?
[09:06] <inayet> FruitieX: the model number is SB0270
[09:06] <FruitieX> TylerJones32: Yes
[09:06] <n2diy> ShockValue: yes, it is related to Debian, and has new releases twice a year.
[09:06] <TylerJones32> ok, thanks :)
[09:06] <ShockValue> n2diy - but i can still get the latest releases of software, etc, right?
[09:06] <FruitieX> inayet: yes but, is it for example a soundblaster 24bit live?
[09:07] <karatas> ...hello
[09:07] <nuke_> I want to put my ubuntu machine between my router and my network, how can i make sure that all data is rerouted to the router?
[09:07] <n2diy> ShockValue: yes,  twice a year.
[09:07] <ubunben> hi, can anyone "see" me?
[09:07] <karatas> i see u
[09:07] <FruitieX> ubunben: yes
[09:07] <fusheh> ubunben: no
[09:07] <ubunben> k, ta
[09:07] <FruitieX> hehe
[09:07] <TylerJones32> For the alternate CD installer, does it automatically create the linux partitions and the swap for me?
[09:08] <TylerJones32> Or will I need to know how to do that?
[09:08] <xoRock> ubunben, where r u
[09:08] <ubunben> .au
[09:08] <karatas> this is my second day using ubuntu,and it is fuckin awesome,i havent found a flaw about it yet
[09:08] <FruitieX> Tylerjones32: I belive it will do that for you
[09:08] <TylerJones32> ok thanks
[09:08] <karatas> can anyone give me some tips
[09:08] <n2diy> ! ohmy | karatas
[09:08] <ubunben> karatas: you aren't trying hard enough ...
[09:08] <FruitieX> Tylerjones32, and partitioning really isn't THAAT difficult ;)
[09:09] <karatas> no
[09:09] <karatas> i got it figured out
[09:09] <inayet> FruitieX: It does not say, except Creative SoundBlaster on the front, and on the back it does not mention more information then that it complies with FCC standards, SN number and Model number
[09:09] <bastid_raZor> burn things in sacrifice
[09:09] <TylerJones32> well im still pretty new to the whole linux scene and switching OSes
[09:09] <FruitieX> Tylerjones32: Okay
[09:09] <karatas> just wanted to know if there were any kewl things about it
[09:09] <ubunben> karatas: what sort of tips do you want? always be nice to your mother and stay away from Windows ...
[09:09] <ubunben> haha
[09:09] <karatas> lol
[09:09] <FruitieX> karatas: are you a gamer? :)
[09:09] <FruitieX> hehe
[09:09] <xoRock> i have creative 5.1 live sound card, but the sound work on front speaker only, what should i do
[09:09] <karatas> i have windows on another partition
[09:10] <karatas> so i can boot in ubuntu or xp
[09:10] <TylerJones32> which Ubuntu v. should I get, 6 or 7?
[09:10] <bic> have you tried compiz/beryl? it's always nice eye candy
[09:10] <karatas> seven
[09:10] <bic> 7.10
[09:10] <FruitieX> inayet: that's odd
[09:10] <n2diy> karatas, watch your language, and check out what is available in menu > system > admin > synaptic, tons of cool stuff.
[09:10] <karatas> y
[09:10] <ubunben> k, dual boot is good, i have graduated to installing vmware and running winxp in that, so no more dual boot for me
[09:10] <karatas> sorry
[09:10] <karatas> thanks
[09:10] <co_Imoetzz> sex baby
[09:10] <TylerJones32> ok thanks everyone for the help :)
[09:10] <FruitieX> no problem ;)
[09:11] <FruitieX> good luck
[09:11] <TylerJones32> =)
[09:11] <TylerJones32> bye
[09:11] <mikaragua> hello world
[09:11] <FruitieX> hey :)
[09:11] <hihiu> Hello 2u2
[09:11] <fusheh> hello mikaragua
[09:11] <unitheory> i like how this becomes -offtopic at night
[09:11] <foug> does anyone know how to enable AUTH SSL and Secure Listing for konqueror?
[09:11] <karatas> this is so much better than windows,i dont know y i didnt use it earlier
[09:11] <mikaragua> how do i boot ubuntu 6.06.1 into text based and not loading the X apps?
[09:12] <karatas> oh,any big hackers in here
[09:12] <FruitieX> inaynet: have you turned up the volume for your soundcard?
[09:12] <karatas> i need help in something
[09:12] <mikaragua> cuz im making this ubuntu 6.06 as dns and web server
[09:12] <FruitieX> karatas: how big? xD
[09:12] <karatas> lol
[09:12] <karatas> ummm
[09:12] <MajorPayne> !ask | kraut
[09:12] <ubunben> mikaragua: ctrl-alt-F1
[09:12] <mikaragua> karatas,  me me me!!!! im wanna be!!! :))
[09:12] <fusheh> mikaragua: boot into recovery mode?
[09:12] <karatas> u know how to crack programs
[09:12] <inayet> FruitieX: through alsamixer ? yes I have. any other suggestions
[09:12] <bic> perhaps you should've downloaded the server edition
[09:12] <karatas> ...or make keygens
[09:12] <mikaragua> sorry ubunben im on ssh mode to that server
[09:12] <hihiu> karatas: As in progammers?
[09:12] <LukeEkblad> Hi, whenever I open synoptic package maneger  i get this error message
[09:12] <MajorPayne> I am a huge hacker.  ~350 lbs.
[09:12] <FruitieX> karatas: no :P
[09:12] <ubunben> ah k
[09:13] <karatas> yeah
[09:13] <fusheh> MajorPayne: sounds hawt.
[09:13] <karatas> lol,nice
[09:13] <mikaragua> fusheh, im doing ssh connection to that server now
[09:13] <FruitieX> inaynet: what are you tryng to play which doesn't work?
[09:13] <kraut> MajorPayne?!
[09:13] <karatas> good movie
[09:13] <MajorPayne> I was just jokeing.
[09:13] <hihiu> karatass: That's a cracker, big difference.
[09:13] <karatas> lol
[09:13] <bastid_raZor> mikaragua, i let my 2nd box boot as if going to use the Xserver then let it sit at that.. then ssh from this box
[09:13] <karatas> yeah
[09:13] <karatas> im starting a little of both
[09:13] <inayet> FruitieX: on alsamixer what does mm and oo stand for ?
[09:14] <FruitieX> inaynet: could you try some .ogg file from the examples folder in your home folder? :)
[09:14] <FruitieX> inaynet: I think MM stands for muted
[09:15] <hihiu> What is with ubuntu and it's obsession with orange...
[09:15] <FruitieX> inaynet not quite sure...
[09:15] <karatas> so,any crackers in here
[09:15] <mikaragua> doesnt ubuntu has inittab to edit for text based?
[09:15] <unitheory> who u callin a cracker
[09:15] <FruitieX> karatas: what would you need to crack? :P
[09:15] <karatas> lmao
[09:15] <inayet> FruitieX:  Its amazing, I can hear sound when I played .oog file. why cant I play other files?
[09:15] <karatas> haha
[09:15] <karatas> nice one
[09:15] <Sonicadvance1> Crackers are tasty
[09:16] <FruitieX> inaynet: have you tried mp3 files and they don't work?
[09:16] <karatas> i mean some one who cracks programs
[09:16] <karatas> h4r h4r
[09:16] <hihiu> inayet: You need the codecs to play them.
[09:16] <Sonicadvance1> I ment white people
[09:16] <FruitieX> karatas: yes i meant that
[09:16] <karatas> i know
[09:16] <inayet> FruitieX: I have not tried playing mp3 files.
[09:16] <FruitieX> inaynet: what have you tried to play?
[09:16] <hihiu> I would tell you how crack just bout all programs, but I hate getting ban for a day from this chat
[09:16] <FruitieX> hehe
[09:16] <karatas> ok,anyone in here play halo 2 or forza on xbox
[09:17] <FruitieX> no
[09:17] <hihiu> gears>halo
[09:17] <iarwain> goodmorning guys! can anyone help me with a 'kernel panic: attempted to kill init!' ?
[09:17] <mikaragua> # The default runlevel.
[09:17] <mikaragua> id:2:initdefault:
[09:17] <karatas> cool cool
[09:17] <MajorPayne> Should I mention #ubuntu-offtopic?
[09:17] <goldfingermafia> anyonke know what cammand i can type in the terminal to download wireshark?
[09:17] <inayet> hihiu: Can you walk me through installing those codecs please?
[09:17] <mikaragua> cant we edit that id:2 to id: something for text based ubuntu?
[09:17] <FruitieX> inatnet: what doesn't play when you try to play it?
[09:17] <karatas> just go to add programs and dl it
[09:18] <inayet> FruitieX: Mainly, I have gone to youtube.com and video.google.com
[09:18] <FruitieX> inaynet*:
[09:18] <iarwain> goldfingermafia: sudo aptitude install wireshark
[09:18] <hihiu> inayet: Search synaptic for the file type you need to play.
[09:18] <FruitieX> inaynet: try installing videodownloader from the firefox plugins site
[09:18] <FruitieX> he needs to play flvs...
[09:18] <n2diy> mikaragua: yes, but you need to research Ubuntu's run levels, they deviate from standard linux run levels.
[09:18] <karatas> i got a prob,any help,i cant close a box on my toolbar,
[09:19] <karatas> and im getting  .....mad
[09:19] <mikaragua> n2diy, what do you mean deviate?
[09:19] <mikaragua> im sorry im not an expert english speaking person
[09:19] <hihiu> FruitieX: I have never even heard of those. What are they picture,audio, or video?
[09:19] <inayet> Hihiu & FruitieX: can you please provide instructions as to how to do this? my knowledge regarding linux is low.
[09:19] <iarwain> anyone know how to get a Live-CD getting loaded from RAM? followed a guide, but i get a kernel panic
[09:19] <hihiu> inayet: Have you tried google?
[09:19] <FruitieX> hihiu: video, used in places llike youtube and google video
[09:19] <n2diy> mikaragua: on most linux boxes, run level 3 is text mode, multi-user, but that is different in Ubuntu.
[09:20] <sam_> how do i add a new radio station to rhythm box
[09:20] <mikaragua> oh
[09:20] <karatas> mine wont even open,says error,your lucky wit what u got
[09:20] <karatas> lol
[09:20] <hihiu> inayet: Democracy player can play them. It's in the respitories(sp?)
[09:20] <mikaragua> yeah cuz that is what imdoing in fedora/redhat changing it to run level 3
[09:20] <FruitieX> inaynet: open firefox, tools, add ons then search for add ons
[09:20] <hihiu> fedora is so slow for me
[09:21] <inayet> hihiu: for what should I search google for ?
[09:21] <Typwn> Hello everyone, maybe someone can help me. Currently I'm using Joystick Calibration and QJoypad but for some reason QJoypad won't recognize the flipper on my PS2 Guitar Hero Controller (which is set as Axis 1). I have it connected by a PS2 to PC adapter, and Joystick Calibration recognizes it completely. Any ideas?
[09:21] <n2diy> ! run level
[09:21] <FruitieX> inaynet: don't google for anything
[09:21] <FruitieX> inaynet: this is a better solution
[09:21] <hihiu> inayet: <the file type> in ubuntu
[09:21] <FruitieX> inaynet: then look for "popular extensions" in which you can see VideoDownloader. click it
[09:22] <n2diy> ! ubotu
[09:22] <FruitieX> hihiu: he does not need any codec to play this really...
[09:22] <n2diy> Is the bot ill?
[09:22] <FruitieX> hihiu: first he needs a method he can download it with
[09:22] <hihiu> That will work, and as I said democracy player can download those files directly from youtube and play them and also your files.
[09:22] <karatas> ok,later peeps
[09:22] <inayet> FruitieX: I am downloading videodownloader, will this help slove the problem of not being able to hear sound on youtube.com or video.google.com
[09:22] <FruitieX> mkay, didn't know that one
[09:23] <FruitieX> inaynet: it's possible
[09:23] <hihiu> I use it all the time, google it/search for it in synaptic
[09:23] <goldfingermafia> anyoe run wireshark? i need it to show my drivers for my network card
[09:24] <n2diy> goldfingermafia: whats wrong with lsmod?
[09:24] <bruenig|laptop> wireshark is not needed for that
[09:24] <r0b-> nixternal
[09:24] <fusheh> mikaragua: any luck?
[09:24] <FruitieX> hihiu: thanks for letting me know about democracy player :)
[09:24] <goldfingermafia> im on a macbook when i go cature-> option it wont show my card
[09:24] <goldfingermafia> i gave up on kismet lol
[09:24] <Typwn> Hello everyone, maybe someone can help me. Currently I'm using Joystick Calibration and QJoypad but for some reason QJoypad won't recognize the flipper on my PS2 Guitar Hero Controller (which is set as Axis 1). I have it connected by a PS2 to PC adapter, and Joystick Calibration recognizes it completely. Any ideas?
[09:25] <kendrick> hey
[09:25] <Toam> I just installed Ubuntu and my apps close randomly and it logs out at random... anyone have any idea why??
[09:25] <kendrick> if i wanted to ask apt what packages are required to build something, what would i do?
[09:25] <kendrick> build-dep actually wants to download and install them. and, well, i already HAVE them
[09:25] <hihiu> FruitieX: welcomez
[09:25] <iarwain> kendrick: apt-cache depends package_name?
[09:25] <kendrick> but i'm trying to list the required dev packages to build a program from source
[09:26] <jason__> anyone here use beryl ?
[09:26] <kendrick> iarwain: what about for compiling, though?
[09:26] <iarwain> kendrick: don't know if that works for compiling i think
[09:26] <kendrick> doesn't seem to :(
[09:26] <iarwain> kendrick: doesn't it say on the req. on the site where you got it from?
[09:26] <kendrick> *cough*
[09:26] <kendrick> i'm the author
[09:26] <iarwain> kendrick: :$ xD
[09:26] <FruitieX> inaynet: so what you should do now is to enable videodownloader (i think it's already enabled), restart firefox, search for a video, click the videodownloader icon in the lower right corner, click download .flv in the window that pops up and open the .flv file with your favorite mediaplayer
[09:27] <r0b-> Ubuntu FTW!
[09:27] <mattyrigby00> anyone know any possible reason why pulseaudio keeps randomly well "disconnecting" whenever i watch videos which are in flash using firefox... but my usb headset has a light which flashes when pulseaudio is still up and its still flashing
[09:27] <kendrick> but i'm losing track. i want to give people the _exact_ list of packages in ubuntu that they need
[09:27] <kendrick> and not look like a jackass for forgettign something
[09:27] <iarwain> kendrick: i don't know how to do that, but perhaps someone can install it on his pc for you, and tell you what packages he needs
[09:28] <kendrick> heh
[09:28] <kendrick> yeah
[09:28] <mattyrigby00> only thing ive changed is adding vista on so i triple boot now... maybe thats the problem XD
[09:28] <Wiseguy> hey guys, does anyone know of any hard drive diagnositc utilities that are fairly reliable?
[09:28] <n2diy> kendrick: you might find your answer in #bzr, they are working on a cvs, svn type stuff for Ubuntu.
[09:29] <MajorPayne> Does anyone know if there is a way to have the Gnome workspaces wrap around.  So if I am on the first and I want to go to the last I can just hit Ctrl+Alt+left?
[09:29] <Hawkins> I've done hours of work trying to get my ATI Radeon X850 work. I'm at point where 3D-acceleration is OK but I just cannot get the resolution I want. I've tried every trick seen here and checked fixresolution community page but nothing helped. I was told as last solution to install drivers from source but I cannot find guide for that. Any help ?
[09:29] <iarwain> can anyone help me with a kernel panic?
[09:29] <kendrick> http://packages.debian.org/unstable/source/tuxpaint
[09:29] <kendrick> debian/rules :)
[09:29] <kendrick> thx, cya!
[09:30] <iarwain> Hawkins: did your resolution work before 3D-accel?
[09:31] <Xyc0> I really have to admit, the test versions are more stable this time around
[09:31] <Xyc0> either that means we are getting better, or we aren't adding enough :P
[09:32] <Cyvros> Toam: Hi, tom.
[09:32] <Hawkins> iarwain, Yes eventually. From the box I only had 640x480 and 800x600
[09:32] <Toam> Hi, Cyvros.
[09:32] <iarwain> Hawkins: try adding the resolutions you want to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:33] <Hawkins> iarwain, That was the first trick I tried but my xorg.conf has _only_ 1280x960 which I want to use but System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution has tons of options but _not_ the only one in xorg.conf
[09:34] <willzzz> i'm having compiz problems
[09:34] <willzzz> compiz fusion wiki....
[09:34] <willzzz> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:34] <willzzz>  /var/cache/apt/archives/compiz-gnome_1%3a0.5.1+git20070706~3v1ubuntu3_i386.deb
[09:34] <willzzz> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:34] <InHisName> I have installed samba. What minimum do I change in smb.conf so I can browse the windows workgroup and drag/copy files from there to ubuntu ?
[09:35] <iarwain> Hawkins: did you add that resolution to all the subsections in the Screen section?
[09:36] <bruenig|laptop> !compiz | willzzz also may be a #ubuntu+1 issue if you are on gutsy
[09:36] <Hawkins> iarwain, Yes I did. I've banged my head into wall for roughly total 20 hours trying get that resolution right
[09:36] <mattyrigby00> anyone got any idea why using flash and java in firefox both make me "lose connection"  to pulseaudio? asoon as i load a java/flash page i "lose connection" to pulse audio, but if i ctrl alt f1 to a terminal and do /etc/init.d/pulseaudio start it says its running, but when i ctrl alt f7 back to my desktop it is "lost connection" till i reload it
[09:36] <willzzz> i'm on feisty seems to be a pkg problem
[09:37] <bruenig|laptop> willzzz, I don't believe compiz-fusion is in the repos, therefore you are dealing with third party vendors, such dealings are technically unsupported
[09:37] <jtong> hi all
[09:38] <jtong> having some problems with my logitech keyboad/mouse
[09:38] <bruenig|laptop> willzzz, it does appear to be a script error, so I would have a look at the script and see what the problem is
[09:38] <iarwain> Hawkins: don't know really. So you did have 1280x1024 before 3d-accel, and after 3d-accell you lost that resolution?
[09:38] <jtong> when i plugged in the usb for both kb/mouse, ubuntu only recoginzes the keyboard
[09:39] <arooni> hey folks, which is better on a thinkpad:  # ntel Graphics Media Accelerator X3100 *OR* # nVidia Quadro NVS 140m (128 MB)
[09:39] <tsairox_> anybody know about portforwarding in ubuntu? I'm trying to use a P2P program Azureus. I followed the steps from http://www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/NAT_problem to the letter and I still don't have a good connection.  Help?
[09:39] <foug> does anyone know how to enable AUTH SSL and Secure Listing for konqueror?
[09:39] <mattyrigby00> im going back to windows cos this bug with pulseaudio means i cant do what i use my pc for :(
[09:41] <Hawkins> iarwain, Correct. Now I have some really akward resolutions instead like 864x648 and 1792x1344
[09:41] <Sonicadvance1> wait
[09:41] <n2diy> mattyrigby00, why would you want to go back to living in a cage, when you could be free to explore?
[09:41] <iarwain> Hawkins: wth :D Can't you find those resolution anywhere in xorg.conf? or a beryl conf? (don't know where beryl stores it files)
[09:42] <Sonicadvance1> aw
[09:42] <Sonicadvance1> he's gon
[09:42] <Sonicadvance1> gone
[09:43] <n2diy> gone, and he can't go on. Oh well.
[09:43] <Sonicadvance1> Well, as long as he stays in the cage this time
[09:44] <n2diy> Sonicadvance1: I suspect he'll escape again! :)
[09:44] <Hawkins> iarwain, I do not have Beryl but in xorg.conf I have only 1280x960 in every depth and in screen resolution drop menu in preferences I have 15 different resolutions ranging from 640x480 to 2048x1539 and of none is the one in xorg.conf
[09:44] <Sonicadvance1> oh no!
[09:44] <Sonicadvance1> We must weld the cage shut!
[09:45] <n2diy> Sonicadvance1: My sister kept a rescued Rhiesus (sp) for two decades, welded cages couldn't contain him.
[09:46] <unitheory> umm does anyone know how to edit the menu items available without using the menu?
[09:46] <Sonicadvance1> wtf
[09:46] <Sonicadvance1> a rhiesus?
[09:46] <iarwain> Hawkins: do you have EVERY resolutions except the 1280 one? otherwise you can try replacing it with a 800x640 and perhaps then select the right resolution in the drop down menu? just a guess though
[09:46] <Sonicadvance1> like..the candy spelled wrong?
[09:46] <n2diy> Sonicadvance1: My sister kept a rescued Rhiesus monkey.
[09:46] <LukeEkblad> Hi, I really need help!
[09:47] <Sonicadvance1> Never heard of them
[09:47] <LukeEkblad> I try to open the add/remove thing and this error message comes up and i cant open it
[09:47] <madam> hello all; do you happen to know whether the the infamous /dev/null bug has been fixed?
[09:47] <madam> i mean perms of /dev/null changing all the time
[09:48] <jtong> anyone know from where does the info in /proc/bus/input/devices come from?
[09:48] <Trogdor3634> 1280x1024 is not a standard 3:4 ratio screen - I believe it's the only one that has a ratio of more than 3:4 (widescreen's ratio is less)
[09:48] <Hawkins> iarwain, That's pretty much right. I have 1280x720 and 1280x1024 but not the 1280x960 in between. I'll try what you suggested now
[09:48] <foug> where do i go to configure ftp settings in konqueror?
[09:48] <Trogdor3634> well, disregard then :)
[09:48] <ubunben> has anyone here successfully installed vmware-server via apt-get in feisty fawn?
[09:49] <n2diy> Sonicadvance1: Rhesus monkey.
[09:49] <madam> jtong: from the kernel i guess
[09:49] <iarwain> so, no one knows anything about a kernel panic?
[09:49] <askand> When I write iwconfig, I get three things.. lo, eth0 and eth1  and eth1 seems to be the wlan..wht is it not called wlan0?
[09:50] <ubunben> when did this kernel panic occur?
[09:50] <Sonicadvance1> hm
[09:50] <Sonicadvance1> vmware-server
[09:50] <n2diy> Sonicadvance1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhesus_macaque
[09:50] <iarwain> ubunben: i must say that i'm trying to boot a live-cd from my ram. following this guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootToRAM
[09:51] <jtong> madam: i plug in a usb device and cat /proc/bus/input/devices is not giving me the correct output
[09:51] <foug> where do i go to configure ftp settings in konqueror?
[09:51] <mikaragua> is shorewall easy to handle when applied to ubuntu 6.06.1?
[09:51] <madam> jtong: what about lsusb?
[09:51] <ben_> if u type "sudo -i" into terminal are you considered as being logged in as root user?
[09:51] <iarwain> ubunben: the error that bothers me is the "init 147: can't open /scripts/iarwain/boot_to_ram/casper" because i have my folder in ~/boot_to_ram instead of /
[09:51] <LukeEkblad> HEllo
[09:51] <Sonicadvance1> I see
[09:51] <ubunben> mikaragua: shorewall is fairly easy to setup, follow the docs for two interface at shorewall.net
[09:52] <Sonicadvance1> Marmoset monkeys are better
[09:52] <jtong> madam: nothing from lsusb
[09:52] <askand> I have troubles with my wlan..When I write iwconfig, I get three things.. lo, eth0 and eth1  and eth1 seems to be the wlan..wht is it not called wlan0?
[09:52] <LukeEkblad> When i open the add/remoce thing, this error message comes up and i cant open it
[09:52] <LukeEkblad> Pleas help !
[09:52] <mikaragua> ubunben, ok.im taking precaution cuz just like automatix ,people in here wont recommend it
[09:52] <mikaragua> :)
[09:52] <ubunben> iarwain: hmm that is a strange error
[09:52] <madam> jtong: perhaps the bus driver (ohci, ...) isn't loaded
[09:53] <iarwain> ubunben: i think it can also be my grub entry, care to take a look? :)
[09:53] <jtong> madam: i loaded uhci manually
[09:53] <madam> askand: does it matter to you?
[09:53] <ubunben> why wouldn't they recommend it? although to be honest, shorewall was flawless on gentoo but i did have some hassles on ubuntu 6.10
[09:53] <ubunben> iarwain: how did you set grub up?
[09:54] <madam> jtong: i'd try ehci_hcd
[09:54] <jtong> madam: i had it working on my kubuntu laptop
[09:54] <askand> madam: hrm well it isnt working..
[09:55] <jtong> madam: ehci is loaded too
[09:55] <madam> askand: to my understanding it should be called ethX anyways, so that's not a symptom
[09:55] <iarwain> ubunben: this is my complete Grub menu.lst http://pastebin.ca/610098
[09:55] <ubunben> ta
[09:56] <unitheory> does anyone know how to edit the menu items available without using the menu? i think i accidentally removed the preferences menu.
[09:56] <jtong> madam: dmesg in kubuntu shows the usb used uhci_hcd so i loaded that on my ubuntu desktop
[09:56] <LukeEkblad> I have a question, can I do like a system restor?
[09:58] <g[r] eek> hi my server edition of feisty doesnt get far in install - "Trying to enable frame buffer..." - then nothing
[09:58] <ubunben> iarwain: that is one ugly grub boot file ... i have never played with booting from RAM, but the rest looks OK, is the ram bit where it fails?
[09:58] <elik> ive problem with printer hp deskjet 5150 it cuts letters in different places depending on font style
[09:58] <iarwain> ubunben: =(
[09:58] <iarwain> ubunben: the RAM is the failing part, yes
[09:58] <SeaGateIsNot> could anyone help me with a xserver problem, I'm running ubuntu 7.04, and a Radeon X300 Series via VGA, the problem occurred when i installed beryl, i already tried reconfiguring X, and no success, any suggestions?
[09:58] <Hawkins> I tried putting 640x480 into xorg.conf and restarted X, voila only that resolution to choose from. I tried 1600x1200 the same thing. Good I though. I'll just put 1280x960 again and it'll do the same trick. Wrong, now I have again the same 15 odd resolutions but 1280x960 isn't there
[09:58] <webart7> can anyone help me with shell trix -- eg to get the name of the parent folder
[09:59] <SeaGateIsNot> could anyone help me with a xserver problem, I'm running ubuntu 7.04, and a Radeon X300 Series via VGA, the problem occurred when i installed beryl, i already tried reconfiguring X, and no success, any suggestions?
[09:59] <ubunben> g[r] eek: try the cmd: nofb if you can, i don't know what you are tyring to install from
[09:59] <webart7> so I can fix this script: http://lateral.netmanagers.com.ar/stories/36.html
[09:59] <webart7> e.g. I want  $svname to be derived by the script --> http://rafb.net/p/SVeMf883.html
[09:59] <ubunben> webart7: pwd
[09:59] <ubunben> ?
[10:00] <mikaragua> btw, in ubuntu 6.06.1 which file should i edit to not load sshd and apache when booting?
[10:00] <webart7> pwd works in an interactive shell but ...
[10:00] <g[r] eek> ubunben: its an iso downloaded from the website, burnt to cd
[10:00] <ubunben> iarwain: just wondering if you need another / before iarwain => boot=iarwain/boot_to_ram/casper splash
[10:00] <g[r] eek> ubunben: ah ok it took a while but its now at the "choose language" screen
[10:01] <iarwain> ubunben: i don't think so, because in the guide there wasn't one aswell. Also, init states it can't open /scripts/iarwain/... so it adds an / automatically
[10:01] <askand> should ndiswrapper be in /etc/modules if I am using ndiswrapper?
[10:01] <arooni> is there a way to sync my google calendar data to an offline client (evolution etc..) somehow?  thanx!
[10:02] <ubunben> iarwain: k, been to ubuntu forums?
[10:02] <iarwain> ubunben: i have, also started a thread
[10:02] <ubunben> ah k
[10:03] <Hawkins> iarwain, I tried putting 640x480 into xorg.conf and restarted X, voila only that resolution to choose from. I tried 1600x1200 the same thing. Good I thought. I'll just put 1280x960 again and it'll do the same trick. Wrong, now I have again the same 15 odd resolutions but 1280x960 isn't there
[10:03] <elik> hi, ive problem with my printer hp deskjet 5150, when i plugged it in system recognize and install it, but ive problem with printing it cuts letters depending on fonts style, is this soemething with driver or with font? how can i handle this?
[10:03] <g[r] eek> ubunben: now it has stalled at the "detecting hardware to find cd-rom drives" screen
[10:04] <g[r] eek> ubunben: bear in mind this is feisty server. i installed dapper server on this same machine and it worked perfectly
[10:04] <iarwain> Hawkins: sounds strange to me.. I don't know anything else that could be of any assistance though
[10:05] <Hawkins> iarwain, don't worry. About 20 people have tried to help me but nobody has found the solution. Thank you for trying =)
[10:05] <iarwain> Hawkins: too bad it won't work out for you :s
[10:06] <g[r] eek> ubunben: now it has stalled permanently on "loading module 'trm290' for 'IDE chipset support'..."
[10:07] <g[r] eek> ubunben: and this looks very similar: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/86578
[10:07] <LukeEkblad> Can someone PLEAS help me
[10:08] <askand> LukeEkblad: with?
[10:08] <gordonjcp> LukeEkblad: not if you don't ask a question
[10:08] <LukeEkblad> I try to open the add/remove thing but an error message comes up and i  cant run it
[10:08] <askand> LukeEkblad: what error?
[10:08] <Frogzoo> g[r] eek: have you tried 'acpi=off' ?
[10:08] <LukeEkblad> um
[10:08] <LukeEkblad> I cant copy and paist it for some reason
[10:08] <g[r] eek> Frogzoo: would i set that right at the beginning in the cd-rom's boot menu?
[10:09] <g[r] eek> Frogzoo: let me try one sec
[10:09] <Frogzoo> g[r] eek: yep - pass as a kernel option from grub
[10:09] <BlueLaguna> If the vim package isn't installed by default, what opens when I use vim before installing the package?
[10:09] <g[r] eek> Frogzoo: while it reboots... why would dapper work perfectly and not feisty (which was released later)?
[10:11] <g[r] eek> arg
[10:11] <g[r] eek> same error with acpi=off
[10:11] <corevette> LukeEkblad: either make a screenshot or write it all out
[10:12] <goldfingermafia> how do i get my wireless drivers to work for other programs? i have a macbook, i got them to work using madwifi
[10:12] <LukeEkblad> this is a major failur of your software management system.  pleas check for brocken packeges with sypaptic, check the file permissions and correctness of the file '/ect/apt/sources.list' and relead the software information with: 'sudo aptget update' and 'sudo aptget install f'
[10:12] <LukeEkblad> THERE!
[10:13] <gnomefreak> LukeEkblad: sudo apt-get update  let me know if it errors
[10:13] <n2diy> LukeEkblad: who you talking to?
[10:13] <LukeEkblad> anyone
[10:14] <LukeEkblad> gnomefreak:   What?
[10:14] <goldfingermafia> anyone know how i get wifi drivers to work for other programs
[10:14] <corentin> Hi all :)
[10:14] <gnomefreak> LukeEkblad: open terminal and type sudo apt-get update
[10:14] <gnomefreak> LukeEkblad: let me know of errors
[10:14] <askand> I have installed BCM4318 with ndiswrapper and blacklisted bcm43xx... and now iwconfig just gives me lo and eth0.. but ndiswrapper tells me that driver and hardware is present..
[10:14] <n2diy> LukeEkblad: ok, so it isn't my,(as in your) software, but "the" software in general?
[10:14] <gnomefreak> LukeEkblad: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[10:14] <LukeEkblad> gnomefreak:   yup, it errored
[10:14] <LukeEkblad> the new one
[10:15] <gnomefreak> LukeEkblad: can i have an error or 2?
[10:15] <corentin> goldfingermafia: what do you mean exactly ?
[10:15] <LukeEkblad> ok
[10:15] <LukeEkblad> E: Type 'mQGiBESfI64RBAC+CSSPbUzfo5RzoGrkuYGcmj/0mBS66QgaehMbd4Czbl32loMI' is not known on line 46 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:15] <sotlef> hi all, anyone know where i can get more skins for mplayer?
 im trying to use wireshark, my wifi works fine as of now on ubuntu but it isnt reconized as an option to use in wireshark
[10:16] <gnomefreak> LukeEkblad: can you please put your /etc/apt/sources.list file on pastebin
[10:16] <LukeEkblad> um
[10:16] <LukeEkblad> whats that again? like whats the url?
[10:16] <gnomefreak> LukeEkblad: <hint> line 46 in that file is messed up
[10:16] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[10:16] <ubunben> sotlef: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html
[10:16] <LukeEkblad> um
[10:16] <gnomefreak> LukeEkblad: pastebin.nl
[10:17] <ubunben> skins section
[10:17] <goldfingermafia> corentin: im tyring to get wireshark to reconize my card
[10:17] <corentin> goldfingermafia: did you try to restart your session ? reboot ?
[10:17] <iarwain> ubunben: could it be that the boot= option is somehow messed up? i can't find anything in the Grub manual, but shouldn't i somewhere put a /dev/something in front of it?
[10:17] <n2diy> gnomefreak: pastebin hasn't worked for me in four hours, should the ops be notified, or are you one of them?
[10:17] <ubunben> sotlef: specific howto => http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/gui.html
[10:18] <iarwain> n2diy: it works for me. pastebin.ca ?
[10:18] <goldfingermafia> corentin:  yes, when i go to select a wifi card nothing come up at all? but i can type in wahtever i want to
[10:18] <gnomefreak> n2diy: no i will tell the person ty
[10:18] <gnomefreak> LukeEkblad: try pastebin.ca
[10:18] <LukeEkblad> gnomefreak:   um, can you send me a link?  i'm a noooob
[10:18] <ubunben> iarwain: no idea with boot_from_ram ...
[10:18] <ubunben> sorry
[10:18] <n2diy> gnomefreak: iarwain, correction, I meant the ubotu.
[10:18] <gnomefreak> kuroaisu: open browser and type pastebin.ca than hit enter
[10:18] <iarwain> ubunben: it's just the path to the casper dir
[10:18] <gnomefreak> n2diy: ah ok
[10:18] <iarwain> n2diy: could be, long time i have seen him ^^
[10:18] <sotlef> ubungen: thank you very much :)
[10:19] <corentin> goldfingermafia: do you try to launch wireshark as root ?
[10:19] <goldfingermafia> corentin: never mind i jsut had to start it as root, but do you ahve anydiea waht one i select, or how i make eth0 my card, i use madwifi to configure my card
[10:19] <goldfingermafia> corentin: im using a macbook
[10:20] <LukeEkblad> um, when i put /etc/apt/sources.list in the termemal, i get this error msg: /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:20] <askand> I have installed BCM4318 with ndiswrapper and blacklisted bcm43xx... and now iwconfig just gives me lo and eth0.. but ndiswrapper tells me that driver and hardware is present..
[10:21] <gnomefreak> LukeEkblad: in terminal type gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:21] <freeagy> hay i'm using dual boot system xp&feisty. the xp was get down from some virus & spyware....(no chance, only reinstall!)  the question: the supergrubdisk is my friend?
[10:21] <gnomefreak> n2diy: its due to netsplit it looks like
[10:21] <n2diy> askand: did you modprobe for the module?
[10:21] <LukeEkblad> http://pastebin.ca/610113  :)
[10:21] <gnomefreak> noone rejoined since netsplit hasnt ended
[10:22] <n2diy> gnomefreak: ok, there have been three or four of those since then.
[10:22] <gnomefreak> LukeEkblad: leave the gedit window open
[10:22] <LukeEkblad> ok
[10:22] <gnomefreak> LukeEkblad: from line 46 to the end remove them
[10:23] <LukeEkblad> gnomefreak:   Them?
[10:23] <corentin> goldfingermafia: I didn't understand this  "but do you ahve anydiea waht one i select, or how i make eth0 my card"
[10:23] <LukeEkblad> wheres line 46?
[10:23] <gnomefreak> LukeEkblad: remove all of http://pastebin.ca/610117
[10:23] <askand> n2diy: i modprobed and added ndiswrapper to /etc/modules
[10:23] <CppIsWeird> is there a wireless utility that allows me to adjust the cards power settings and so forth?
[10:24] <goldfingermafia>  corentin when i select eth0 it acts liek i have no wifi card, it wont capture anything at all
[10:24] <gnomefreak> look at that and remove everything i pasted from your list line 46 is under the last deb..... line
[10:24] <LukeEkblad> gnomefreak:   All of that???
[10:24] <gnomefreak> LukeEkblad: yes
[10:24] <n2diy> askand: ok, and ifconfig doesn't so wlanX?
[10:24] <gnomefreak> Lundn: leave the lines that start with word deb
[10:24] <jtong> anyone know how i can deselect some modules currently loading at bootup?
[10:24] <gnomefreak> LukeEkblad: leave all lines that start with word deb alone
[10:24] <gnomefreak> just remove the none deb lines
[10:24] <askand> n2diy:nope..
[10:25] <corentin> goldfingermafia: if you use madwifi then you have an atheros chipset right ? so it should be ath0 and not eth0 ... am I wrong ?
[10:25] <gnomefreak> LukeEkblad: i dont know who gave you the idea to add that to your list but you shouldnt have
[10:25] <n2diy> askand: ok, what happens with ifup wlanX?
[10:25] <LukeEkblad> deleat everything from mQGiBESfI64RBAC+CSSPbUzfo5RzoGrkuYGcmj/0mBS66QgaehMbd4Czbl32loMI down?
[10:25] <askand> n2diy: should I write that?
[10:25] <goldfingermafia> corentin: ah ok that is waht i ment, lol thanks im new to all this so ty very much for all your help
[10:25] <gnomefreak> LukeEkblad: yes
[10:26] <n2diy> askand: in a terminal, yes, without the ?
[10:26] <CorpseFeeder> What's grub error 17?
[10:26] <goldfingermafia> what are ARP packets?
[10:26] <gnomefreak> LukeEkblad: when done save and exit gedit than open terminal and type sudo apt-get update
[10:26] <gnomefreak> LukeEkblad: let me know of errors after that
[10:27] <askand> n2diy: sudo ifup wlan0 gives error while getting interface flags: No such device
[10:27] <CppIsWeird> goldfinger: wireless packets for connecting to a router
[10:27] <n2diy> askand: ok, what about with out sudo?
[10:27] <LukeEkblad> gnomefreak:   Yay! thank you!
[10:28] <askand> n2diy: permission denied
[10:28] <LukeEkblad> gnomefreak:  Another question:  How do i get kiba dock?
[10:28] <n2diy> askand: ok, does lsmod show the module as loaded?
[10:28] <gnomefreak> LukeEkblad: you build it or find someone with a deb but warning its been broken for a long time now
[10:29] <LukeEkblad> gnomefreak:  brocken?
[10:29] <gnomefreak> LukeEkblad: broken
[10:29] <askand> n2diy: it shows in the list but..under Used: it says 0?
[10:29] <LukeEkblad> gnomefreak:  so i cant get it?
[10:29] <gnomefreak> LukeEkblad: the devel for it upstream introduced alot of bugs :(
[10:30] <gnomefreak> LukeEkblad: you can but you have to find  someone with it or build it. see #ubuntu-effects for more info on it
[10:30] <n2diy> askand: ok, what happens with ifdown wlanX?
[10:30] <LukeEkblad> http://wolphination.com/linux/2007/06/03/kiba-dockthe-interactive-dock-toolbar-redefined/   thats what messed me up
[10:30] <LukeEkblad> It told me to add those things, look at it
[10:30] <askand> n2diy:  interface wlan0 not configured
[10:31] <CorpseFeeder> ok... grub error 17  is "17 : Cannot mount selected partition This error is returned if the partition requested exists, but the filesystem type cannot be recognized by GRUB." so why???? All I did was install Ubuntu Studio then installed Ubuntu Edgy on a separate partition. Why should grub not recognise the fielsystem type?
[10:31] <LukeEkblad> gnomefreak:  wait, how do i build it?
[10:31] <Sonicadvance1> hm
[10:31] <hihi1> Does any one actually use KDE? It's so.... bad.
[10:32] <n2diy> askand: ok, can you find it with lshw?
[10:32] <Holty101> hi guys can anyone please help i dont know what to do im a newb and am getting this error while running this command sudo apt-get update
[10:32] <Holty101> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[10:32] <gnomefreak> LukeEkblad: ask in #ubuntu-effects building it is a bit hard to explain just add the 2 tuxfamily repos install the 3 kiba apps and use it but be warned it may not work as expected
[10:32] <gnomefreak> Holty101: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:33] <gnomefreak> Holty101: <hint> re the error
[10:33] <CorpseFeeder> Why am I getting grub error 17??? all my partitions are ext3 or swap
[10:33] <gnomefreak> read even
[10:33] <Holty101> yes done that but nothing happens
[10:33] <askand> n2diy: yes,..network controller?
[10:33] <gnomefreak> Holty101: sudo apt-get update
[10:33] <gnomefreak> !grub | CorpseFeeder
[10:33] <gnomefreak> damnit
[10:33] <hihi1> How do you get your home folder on your desktop?
[10:33] <gnomefreak> CorpseFeeder: go to wiki.ubuntu.com and search for grub
[10:33] <n2diy> askand: and that is the only network device, no eth0 right?
[10:34] <gnomefreak> hihi1: drag and drop it from menus should work
[10:34] <corentin> goldfingermafia: does it work now ?
[10:34] <Holty101> done that still nothing
[10:34] <LukeEkblad> gnomefreak:   Thanks so much!
[10:34] <gnomefreak> LukeEkblad: yw
[10:34] <gnomefreak> Holty101: what are you doing when you get that error
[10:34] <gnomefreak> Holty101: its seems you are not getting it anymore
[10:34] <Holty101> sudo apt-get update
[10:34] <saul11> I'm a bit reluctant about installing ubuntu next to my windows. I want to keep windows to get used to ubuntu in steps. Now I have an extra HDD empty for ubuntu. Can you assure me that when I select the new HDD in the install step 6 (I believe it was) ubuntu will not touch the data on my other HDDs?
[10:34] <GenNMX> Hmmm, how do I get Firefox or another browser to show what headers and body its sending on a POST request?
[10:35] <gnomefreak> Holty101: than if it didnt error on apt-get update you are fine :)
[10:35] <saul11> I guess ubuntu will format the drive
[10:35] <saul11> an make it FAT32
[10:35] <saul11> my other drives are all NTFS
[10:35] <gnomefreak> saul11: ubuntu will not make a vfat FS on installing as it doesnt use it
[10:35] <askand> n2diy:hrm.. I have a ethernet interface too..its "logical name" is eth0
[10:36] <gnomefreak> saul11: gparted will help with that once installed
[10:36] <Holty101> everytime i type something it comes back with nothing now
[10:36] <hihi1> saul11: Don't use fat32, you can only have a file up to like 4 gigs or something.
[10:36] <saul11> gnomefreak, euhms that sounds chineese to me :(
[10:36] <asc-> saul11: There will always be a 'do you want to erase this [drive/partition] ' message before it formats something.
[10:36] <n2diy> askand: so, lshw finds eth0, but not wlan0?
[10:37] <gnomefreak> Holty101: try installing something
[10:37] <gnomefreak> Holty101: sudo apt-get install $
[10:37] <gnomefreak> replace $ witha  package name
[10:37] <Holty101> i want to install thunderbird whats the command
[10:37] <gnomefreak> Holty101: sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird
[10:37] <saul11> hihi1, I thought ubuntu could only use FAT32
[10:37] <asc-> saul11: It's possible that you can't use fat32 for system files because it doesn't support permissions.
[10:37] <saul11> what do you recommand then?
[10:37] <askand> n2diy: thats right
[10:37] <gnomefreak> Holty101: assuming you are on feisty
[10:37] <Holty101> nothing just goes to
[10:38] <Holty101> >
[10:38] <hihi1> saul11: ext3, the Linux file system.
[10:38] <gnomefreak> Holty101: hit ctrl+c buttons
[10:38] <netdaemon> what version of suspend does ubuntu use?
[10:38] <gnomefreak> Holty101: you had a command screwed up thats why you got the >
[10:38] <asc-> saul11: ext3 is the most commonly used file system for Linux. Windows can't read it by default though.
[10:38] <saul11> can that read and write on NTFS?
[10:38] <Holty101> ok what next try installing again?
[10:38] <n2diy> askand: ok, so wlan0 isn't working, double check you have the right module/driver for it, in then insmod it.
[10:38] <gnomefreak> Holty101: sudo apt-get update
[10:38] <gnomefreak> Holty101: dies it error?
[10:39] <gnomefreak> does*
[10:39] <Holty101> same error
[10:39] <Holty101> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[10:39] <asc-> saul11: Ubuntu can read and write to NTFS if you install some package. It's not officially 'stable' yet, but I've not heard of anybody having trouble with it.
[10:39] <gnomefreak> Holty101: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:39] <saul11> because I have windows still on my system nest to ubuntu I would like both being able to read files that I edit from each OS
[10:39] <askand>  n2diy: im using ndiswrapper for it
[10:39] <saul11> asc-, sweet, that's good news
[10:39] <asc-> !ntfs
[10:39] <gnomefreak> Holty101: it sould be installing things
[10:39] <gnomefreak> asc-: bots down
[10:40] <Holty101> awsome didnt error this time
[10:40] <gnomefreak> Holty101: your fixed
[10:40] <asc-> oh noes
[10:40] <Holty101> awsome thanks a lot much apriciated guys
[10:40] <asc-> Anybody have a link to that program that lets windows read-write ext2?
[10:40] <n2diy> askand: ok, I'm not familiar with ndiswrapper, or how it plays, but that's where I'd look for the problem.
[10:40] <Holty101> gnomefreak thanks a lot
[10:41] <asc-> nm, got it
[10:41] <asc-> saul11: You can apparently use this program to read and write to ext2/3 from windows: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[10:42] <asc-> driver, even
[10:42] <saul11> so, again, when installing, and selecting the new empty HDD, ubuntu willl do the rest and won't touch the other drives (except from setting up the boot loader). Will ubuntu make it ext3 or do I have to specify that manually? And will ubuntu take the whole HDD I assigned to it?
[10:42] <saul11> asc-, thanks
[10:43] <asc-> saul11: You'll have the opportunity to set up partitions if you want to.
[10:45] <asc-> saul11: Uh, you'll also be able to select the filesystem if you want. Ext3 should be the default.
[10:46] <saul11> I guess I just have a look at the installer again. Is there any other filesystem I could use that works better in combination with windows?
[10:46] <^tiNee^> whats a good bittorrent client?
[10:47] <asc-> saul11: Probably not... windows isn't real big on compatability.
[10:47] <n2diy> bitorrent?
[10:48] <kane77> gedit doesnt seem to have good channel so I ask here.. how can I make it highlight blocks of code (beginning/end) in ruby?
[10:48] <asc-> tiNee: Azureus if you like lots of features. Bittornado if you want more than gnome-btdownload but a lot less than azureus.
[10:48] <goldfingermafia> what can i type in the command line to get aircrack?
[10:48] <asc-> goldfingermafia: sudo apt-get install aircrack
[10:48] <goldfingermafia> asc-: ty
[10:48] <^tiNee^> ty asc
[10:49] <asc-> np
[10:51] <CANI> OLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[10:51] <lkthomas> guys, how could I config proftpd that not to show a specific dir to ftp user ?
[10:51] <BlendArt> hello
[10:52] <CANI> OLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[10:52] <Trogdor3634> /Bin/sh:can't acces tty;job control turned off
[10:52] <Trogdor3634> (initramfs) [115.862422]  ata1:port failed to respond (30secs,status 0xd0)
[10:52] <gnomefreak> CANI: please dont do that
[10:52] <Trogdor3634> PROBLEM SOLVED!!!
[10:52] <BlendArt> when trying to open a file with hex editor I get a "Could not add application to the database"?
[10:52] <Trogdor3634> I found a "Fast boot" option in BIOS that "skipped some compatibility steps"
[10:52] <Trogdor3634> Now I can get my LIVECD to boot again
[10:53] <Trogdor3634> after disabling it
[10:53] <CANI> ALGUIEN ABLA EN ESPAOL
[10:53] <gnomefreak> CANI: #ubuntu-es
[10:53] <asc-> saul11: The package you want in order to use NTFS partitions from Ubuntu is "ntfs-3g"... creating interoperability between windows and linux is strong magic, though.
[10:53] <Trogdor3634> flusheh: this is Squalish from before btw
[10:53] <kane77> if I upgrade my processor (currently I have athlon64 3800+) to athlon X2 5000 will ubuntu run without reinstalling (with dual-core support)?
[10:54] <gnomefreak> kane77: if you are using the -generice kernel it should but depends if you are running 64 now and moving to 32 with new proc
[10:55] <kane77> gnomefreak, no I'm running 64 kernel and am planning to stay on 64
[10:55] <CANI> JOE TIO ALGUIEN ABLA MI IDIOMA
[10:55] <gnomefreak> kane77: you should be fine than
[10:55] <spikeb> hmm what happened to the bot
[10:55] <kane77> gnomefreak, and will it run dualcore?
[10:56] <gnomefreak> kane77: yes -generic kernel has smp
[10:56] <kane77> yahoo!! (no ad intended :) )
[10:56] <Trogdor3634> ! es | CANI
[10:57] <Trogdor3634> !es | CANI
[10:57] <g[r] eek> hi what's the danger in temporarily enabling edgy-backport in sources.list when using dapper drake server - just to install postresql 8.2 (dapper backports only support up to 8.1).
[10:57] <gnomefreak> Trogdor3634: hes gone and the bot is gone
[10:57] <chealdo_> hi everybody do you know how to install usb genius scanner?
[10:58] <gnomefreak> g[r] eek: its a good way to screw up your system
[10:58] <BlendArt> when trying to open a file with hex editor I get a "Could not add application to the database"?
[10:59] <g[r] eek> gnomefreak :/
[10:59] <Lorne_Kun> how do i figure out what's wrong with gnome-terminal -_-
[10:59] <Lorne_Kun> it will no longer launch
[11:00] <gnomefreak> Lorne_Kun: error in anoter console?
[11:00] <gnomefreak> another*
[11:00] <g[r] eek> gnomefreak: my predicament: dapper server has lts (hoorah). everything in my development stack works perfectly. excep, dapper only supports up to postgresql8.1, and my app depends on 8.2 for jdbc reasons
[11:01] <g[r] eek> gnomefreak: what is the likelihood of dapper's backports being updated to include postgresql8.2 in the near future? since its got 5 year lts and all...
[11:01] <Lorne_Kun> gnomefreak: would you like me to PM you the output when i try and run gnome-terminal from another console app?
[11:01] <gnomefreak> g[r] eek: than maybe wait for next point release of dapper
[11:01] <gnomefreak> Lorne_Kun: sure
[11:01] <gnomefreak> Lorne_Kun: pastebin is always better
[11:02] <reed926> hello, I am attempting to get the vncserver to automatically start after it has booted to the login screen. Is that possible? or can it only be upon loging in ?
[11:02] <f4rbr0r^KaLL3> omg.. why did the font on firefox change when i installed and tried kubuntu-desktop? I have tried almost every possible font, but still this looks like crap :(
[11:02] <Lorne_Kun> k one sec
[11:02] <g[r] eek> gnomefreak: point release?
[11:03] <gnomefreak> f[yes like dapper is now 6.06.1
[11:03] <g[r] eek> as in, 6.06.1?
[11:03] <g[r] eek> .1 being the current point release?
[11:03] <gnomefreak> g[r] eek: ^^^
[11:03] <g[r] eek> hehe
[11:03] <g[r] eek> ok
[11:03] <g[r] eek> thanks
[11:03] <g[r] eek> flyes
[11:03] <gnomefreak> we are talking about .2 the past few weeks
[11:03] <g[r] eek> great!
[11:03] <reed926> !vnc
[11:05] <Myrtti> the bot is having a vacation atm
[11:05] <vlt> Hello. I have two identical machines running Ubuntu Dapper 6.06 (ntp-server installed) but different time. One machine is a few seconds behind UTC. What could be wrong there?
[11:05] <Lorne_Kun> gnomefreak: http://pastebin.ca/610162
[11:06] <gnomefreak> Lorne_Kun: file a bug on that please
[11:06] <ishkur88> awwe
[11:06] <f4rbr0r^KaLL3> why did the font on firefox change when i installed and tried kubuntu-desktop? I have tried almost every possible font, but still this looks like crap :(
[11:07] <Lorne_Kun> anno.
[11:07] <KennyKix> hey all, i've just installed ubuntu from the alternative cd and after reboot it displays "Error Loading Operating System"...i'm new to linux and have no idea where to start...any help would be appreciated.
[11:10] <ari_stress> KennyKix: could be a defect disc?
[11:10] <ari_stress> KennyKix: better check the md5sum before burning the cd
[11:11] <KennyKix> but wouldnt the disc be unreadable in that case?
[11:11] <Lorne_Kun> theres already a bug report been filed :)
[11:11] <ari_stress> KennyKix: not necessarily. could be only a part of it that is corrupt
[11:12] <KennyKix> alrighty then...
[11:12] <andcor> anyone knows how to make lircd recognice the hauppauge remote. It doesn't make an /dev/lirc0 input device
[11:12] <KennyKix> Lorne_Kun: was that directed at my problem?
[11:12] <Lorne_Kun> sorry, it was about my problem :p
[11:13] <KennyKix> Lorne_Kun: fair enough. :)
[11:13] <ari_stress> KennyKix: is there any specific need of using alternate cd?
[11:15] <KennyKix> ari_stress: live cd didnt work last time i tried...i've just made some grub changes if this doesnt help i'll use this live cd installer and see how i go
[11:16] <f4rbr0r^KaLL3> why did the font on firefox change when i installed and tried kubuntu-desktop? I have tried almost every possible font, but still this looks like crap :(
[11:17] <CorpseFeeder> does feisty store the grub boot info in a different place to edgy? The available kernels versions which show up in the grub menu when my computer boots is totally different to that which is listed in my menu.lst file????
[11:17] <CorpseFeeder> what't up with that?
[11:17] <n2diy> f4rbr0r^KaLL3: I think you answered your own question?
[11:18] <f4rbr0r^KaLL3> n2diy, huh?
[11:18] <gsevil> sorry
[11:18] <n2diy> f4rbr0r^KaLL3: what else changed, when the font did, huh?
[11:18] <gsevil> what's packages do i need to compile a program
[11:19] <f4rbr0r^KaLL3> n2diy, i did not notice anything else changing
[11:19] <Wiseguy> gsevil, build-essential
[11:19] <reed926> do you think that someone could point me into the direction of where to find information on getting VNC Server to start when the system boots to the login screen? I am attempting to make a headless unit and I can't find any answers to this question. I found the stuff about making Resumable sessions, but that does not exactly help me
[11:19] <Frogzoo> gsevil: build-essential
[11:19] <n2diy> f4rbr0r^KaLL3: no? you didn't change anything else?
[11:19] <gsevil> I've installed that
[11:19] <f4rbr0r^KaLL3> ...
[11:19] <f4rbr0r^KaLL3> n2diy, no, i did nto
[11:19] <f4rbr0r^KaLL3> not
[11:20] <CorpseFeeder> Let me rephrase that. I have Ubuntu Edgy 6.10 installed with Ubuntu Studio 7.04 installed afterwards... When I boot into 6.10 and look at /boot/grub/menu.lst it only shows the 6.10 menu items and none of the 7.04 items? So where are the missing menu entries hiding?
[11:20] <vega> i have dual nvidia and 2 dell monitors what to use Xinerama or TwinView
[11:20] <loca|host> hello all
[11:20] <TheDarkKiller> Hey. I know this question have been answered alot of times before, but recently, my Windows XP computer went down, and I am now trying to install Windows on my Ubuntu computer with dualboot. I have looked on the forums, every post saying that I need to install Windows _FIRST_. I already have a Ubuntu partition, and I want XP on another partition. Please point me in the right direction.
[11:21] <n2diy> f4rbr0r^KaLL3: gee, I thought you said the problem occured when you loaded kubuntu?
[11:21] <Frogzoo> CorpseFeeder: you have a separate /boot/grub/menu.lst for both 6.10 & 7.04 is your problem
[11:21] <madeofcandy> hellohellohellohello
[11:21] <asc-> reed826: Uh, question. Is the login screen a critical point, or do you just want it to start when the computer starts?
[11:21] <f4rbr0r^KaLL3> n2diy, omg
[11:21] <CorpseFeeder> Also.. is there any way for me to see the 7.04 filesystem from within 6.10?
[11:21] <f4rbr0r^KaLL3> n2diy, what are you trying to say?
[11:21] <sledgeas> hello, i have a brand new santa rosa i965 HP 6710b laptop and on X/Ubuntu 7.04 after CD boot I get: /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[11:21] <reed926> asc-: I just want vnc to start when the computer does
[11:21] <lousygarua> CorpseFeeder: it's the same filesystem
[11:21] <n2diy> f4rbr0r^KaLL3: you caused the problem?
[11:22] <vega> i have dual nvidia and 2 dell monitors what to use Xinerama or TwinView
[11:22] <f4rbr0r^KaLL3> n2diy, by installing kubuntu?
[11:22] <n2diy> f4rbr0r^KaLL3: it looks like that, no?
[11:22] <loca|host> i can't mount my memorystick when plugged into my laptop card reader, i have this in /var/log/messages: "kernel: [ 1391.924000]  tifm_core: MemoryStick card detected in socket 0:0", and nothing else indicating the device name or the mountpoint ...
[11:22] <f4rbr0r^KaLL3> n2diy, for fucks sake
[11:22] <Trogdor3634> sledgeas: Search your BIOS for a 'fast boost' option and disable it
[11:22] <n2diy> f4rbr0r^KaLL3: no need to curse.
[11:22] <sledgeas> Trogdor3634: ok, trying
[11:23] <f4rbr0r^KaLL3> n2diy, i was asking a way to correct this and you just give some shit
[11:23] <f4rbr0r^KaLL3> "you did it, you installed kubuntu!"
[11:23] <Trogdor3634> sledgeas: after that, there are a large number of tweaks, that's how I solved mine an hour ago, nothing else would work
[11:23] <sledgeas> Trogdor3634: fast boot?
[11:23] <asc-> reed826: Okay, I'm just going to try and figure out what the heck vnc is. Probably I can't help at all, but we'll see. ;p
[11:23] <f4rbr0r^KaLL3> n2diy, don't speak if you don't have anything constructive to say
[11:23] <n2diy> f4rbr0r^KaLL3: that is when your problem started, or you aren't telling the whole story.
[11:24] <reed926> it is a GUI way of Viewing another computer's desktop
[11:24] <CorpseFeeder> if it's the same filesystem, how come nothing from my 7.04 filesystem shows up in 6.10?
[11:24] <vega> any one using dual lcd?
[11:24] <Trogdor3634> sledgeas: something along those lines, my Dell box had an option to skip some compatability options to speed the bootup, which was screwing my LiveCD bootup with that error
[11:24] <f4rbr0r^KaLL3> n2diy, that is why i was asking WHY did the font change when i installed kubuntu...
[11:24] <lousygarua> asc-: i do vnc and nx all day long if u need advice
[11:24] <f4rbr0r^KaLL3> goddamn
[11:24] <f4rbr0r^KaLL3> idiot
[11:24] <loca|host> anyone can help ?
[11:24] <loca|host> i can't mount my memorystick when plugged into my laptop card reader, i have this in /var/log/messages: "kernel: [ 1391.924000]  tifm_core: MemoryStick card detected in socket 0:0", and nothing else indicating the device name or the mountpoint ...
[11:24] <gnomefreak> f4rbr0r^KaLL3: dont insult people
[11:24] <sledgeas> Trogdor3634: is it only for LiveCD issues, later I can re-enable?
[11:24] <f4rbr0r^KaLL3> sorry, but that guy insults me
[11:25] <lousygarua> CorpseFeeder: is it on the same hard disk? partition? what is your 6.10/7.04 setup
[11:25] <asc-> lousygarua: Probably mostly reed926 does. He wants the VNC server to start with the computer, apparently so people can use the login screen remotely.
[11:25] <n2diy> f4rbr0r^KaLL3: and my suggestion is, it changed because you installed kubuntu.
[11:25] <f4rbr0r^KaLL3> n2diy, omg.. are you einstein reborn?
[11:25] <CorpseFeeder> lousygarua: they are installed on two different drives
[11:25] <keyboardashtray> /who freenode/staff/*
[11:25] <Trogdor3634> sledgeas: not sure, havn't finished installing :P If that doesn't work, options involve: disabling extra floppies, disabling ACPI (a powersaving method) in the BIOS, entering special commands from the console, and a few other things
[11:25] <lousygarua> reed926: asc-: for remote login you can use freenx instead of ubuntu's built in vnc stuff
[11:25] <keyboardashtray> oops
[11:25] <gnomefreak> f4rbr0r^KaLL3: lets not do that again ok
[11:26] <n2diy> f4rbr0r^KaLL3: for every action, there is an equall, and opposite reaction, no?
[11:26] <f4rbr0r^KaLL3> gnomefreak, he is insulting me too :)
[11:26] <lousygarua> CorpseFeeder: on 6.10, did you mount the 7.04 drive?
[11:26] <n2diy> equall/equal
[11:26] <gnomefreak> n2diy: please dont try to help him anymore
[11:26] <highvoltage> does ubiquity support RAID installations in Feisty?
[11:26] <f4rbr0r^KaLL3> n2diy, shut up already
[11:26] <highvoltage> I can't find an option for it :/
[11:26] <asc-> reed926: Uh, what he said.
[11:26] <n2diy> gnomefreak: thank you!
[11:26] <RainCT> Hi
[11:27] <CorpseFeeder> lousygarua: it's visible on the desktop, but for some reason it just shows everything on the 6.10 hard drive
[11:27] <RainCT> I've just deleted the top panel (wrong button) :/  is there any way to restore it, without having to place everything on it again?
[11:27] <askand> ANyone here got their BCM4318card working and can help me?
[11:27] <vega> hello any body can help with dual monitor?
[11:27] <asc-> reed926: http://freenx.berlios.de/info.php has information apparently. Don't ask me how it works though.
[11:27] <asc-> lousygarua: Thanks.
[11:27] <keyboardashtray> /who freenode/staff
[11:27] <reed926> thank you for helping me asc-, I will take a look at it :)
[11:28] <qsheets> Hi! I'm trying to install Compiz Fusion and it won't run. I typed in "compiz --replace" in the terminal and the reply was "Fatal: Failed test: texture_from_pixmap support  Checks indicate that it's impossible to start compiz on your system." I have an nVidia GeForce FX 5500 if it helps.
[11:28] <Frogzoo> RainCT: nope
[11:28] <lousygarua> CorpseFeeder: when u go to the mounted 7,04 drive, and go to your home folder, is it the same as your 6.10 folder?
[11:28] <CorpseFeeder> lousygarua: yes.
[11:29] <sledgeas> Trogdor3634: there is no such thing in that HP BIOS
[11:29] <lousygarua> asc-: reed926: actually i did install the official NX packages from nomachine.com, although they not "opensource", but they give you three .debs which are instaled easily and it works nicely on my remote server
 moin
 ich arbeite in einer medienagentur und baue gerade an iscsi storage fr xen gste rum
 weiss jemand ob das openiscsi mpio fhig ist ?
 also I/O Multipathing untersttzt ?
 in zusammenarbeit mit xen und ubuntu dapper oder feisty ?
[11:30] <crdlb> qsheets, #ubuntu-effects or #compiz-fusion
[11:30] <lousygarua> CorpseFeeder: maybe 7.04 installer is very smart and links the 7.04 home folder with the older home folder.
[11:30] <qsheets> thx crdlb
[11:30] <RainCT> :(
[11:30] <predaeus> !de | kinley
[11:30] <RainCT> where is the network manager?
[11:31] <lousygarua> CorpseFeeder: so you get easy transition between 6.10 and 7.04, but im' not sure
[11:31] <gnomefreak> kinley: join #ubuntu-de
[11:31] <reed926> asc-: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX I had never heard of FreeNX, and the link to a Debian / Ubuntu version HowTo is down so I googled FreeNX
[11:31] <predaeus> ach, kinley, frag in #ubuntu-de das hier ist der Englische support channel, bitte nur english hier
[11:31] <kinley> thx
[11:31] <gnomefreak> kinley: and dont paste in the channel
[11:31] <kinley> ok
[11:31] <kinley> sorry
[11:32] <Trogdor3634> sledgeas: try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=478715 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/106864 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=415009&highlight=control+tty
[11:32] <Trogdor3634> sledgeas: there was one more workaround thread, lemme find it
[11:32] <n2diy> gnomefreak: why is it so difficult to understand a=b, if you change a, and b changes to, duh?
[11:33] <gnomefreak> n2diy: dont
[11:33] <lousygarua> CorpseFeeder: if you "ls" inside a folder if will draw symbolic links in cyan so you can check if the 7.04 home folder is actually a link to the old home folder
[11:33] <Trogdor3634> sledgeas: here's the other one: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=421588&highlight=control+tty
[11:34] <reed926> asc-: Now I wonder since the wiki says it is not a service, if it automatically starts when the computer starts up.
[11:34] <CorpseFeeder> lousygarua: I don't know... but the problem I have is quite stupid - I know my password for my 7.04 partition, but I've forgotten the username since I have not booted into 7.04 for several months - I was hoping if I could see the home folder of 7.04 from 6.10 then I would be able to see the username from the 7.04 home folder.
[11:34] <lousygarua> reed926: asc-: it does, and if it doesn't you can make it start on startup
[11:34] <Trogdor3634> sledgeas: it seems to be a conspicuously common problem, something to do with the linux kernal built for 7.04 handles drives mostly, there are over 10k google hits for the first line of the error
[11:34] <lousygarua> CorpseFeeder: you can boot the 7.04 in safe mode adn reset your passworrd
[11:35] <pr4bh> hello, question: i am trying to install intel drivers, why do i get: configure: error: Must have X server >= 1.3 source tree for mode setting code. Please specify --with-xserver-source error?
[11:35] <lousygarua> CorpseFeeder: you just choose the safe mode on grub, and it gets you to a root prompt
[11:35] <lousygarua> then you can change yuor password with the command "passwd <username>"
[11:35] <CorpseFeeder> ah...
[11:35] <peter__> Hi,  do i need to do any additional configuration except disable firewall to accept incoming udp-sockets?
[11:36] <CorpseFeeder> lousygarua: ok.. I didn't know that. I give that a go..
[11:36] <pr4bh> hello, question: i am trying to install intel drivers, why do i get: configure: error: Must have X server >= 1.3 source tree for mode setting code. Please specify --with-xserver-source error?
[11:36] <lousygarua> pr4bh: sounds like you are compiling the drivers from source
[11:37] <predaeus> peter__, please rephrase your question, it is very vague. configuration for what?
[11:37] <Layer-8> hi guys
[11:37] <Layer-8>  is there a way to recompile only one ko without having to compile the whole kernel?
[11:37] <RainCT> Frogzoo: do you know how I can get the network manager back on the panel?
[11:37] <predaeus> pr4bh, do not repeat so quickly, be a bit more patient please.
[11:37] <pr4bh> lousygaura: i am following this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1646660
[11:37] <lousygarua> Layer-8: on module, that is?
[11:38] <Trogdor3634> Question: For a first-time linux install, if I want a shared partition accessible in both ubuntu and XP, should I use NTFS, FAT32, or what?
[11:38] <pr4bh> predaeus: sorry
[11:38] <lousygarua> Trogdor3634: NTFS support is still 'experimental' but it still works great for me
[11:39] <lousygarua> Trogdor3634: on ubuntu you have to install an extra package for write-enabling NTFS if i'm not wrong, but it works great sharing between ubuntu and xp
[11:39] <peter__> predaeus: i have a server listening/accepting udp-connection at port 5060. But clients can't connect for some reason...
[11:39] <Trogdor3634> cool, thanks
[11:40] <^tiNee^> are there any widgets that gives u random jokes on ur desktop?
[11:40] <Layer-8> lousygarua want to compile an own kernel...kernel runs fine, but a module berry_charge doesnt do what i want it to...so I changed it...now i want to recompile this single module and use it...
[11:40] <^tiNee^> or horoscope
[11:40] <peter__> predaeus: My firewall is disabled, server-app is running. when i listen to the ethernet wire i can hear that the client traffic is sent to the server correctly
[11:41] <predaeus> peter__, hm so the server must be misconfigured somehow
[11:41] <RainCT> Frogzoo: well, thx
[11:41] <peter__> predaeus: Yea. i think so. I dont know what files to edit :)
[11:41] <I_Have_No_Idea> Is beryl a packadge in the Repos or what? i cannot find it at all with the defualt Repo list
[11:41] <lousygarua> Layer-8: basically, if ur kernel was already compiled, setting a new module in its configuration will just compile that module (bcoz all the others are already compiled) thats what make is for, but i have a feeling u already know that
[11:41] <predaeus> peter__, what server is it?
[11:42] <lousygarua> Layer-8: also there's nickname completion with tab for easy lousygarua writing
[11:42] <n2diy> tiNee, yes, look in synaptic, under games and entertainment.
[11:42] <peter__> predaeus, its an IP PBX, for sip phone calls
[11:42] <Frogzoo> !beryl | I_Have_No_Idea
[11:43] <peter__> predaeus: asterisk
[11:43] <dromer> hi all, I'm having trouble with the dhcp client: there keeps getting a 2nd client running when I boot which interferes with dhcp (and expires my lease), can someone help me turn this client off from boot?
[11:43] <predaeus> peter__, does "man asterisk" give you any info about configuration and/or config files?
[11:43] <^tiNee^> k ty
[11:44] <Layer-8> lousygarua, i have already compiled the ko but want to recompile just that single one...so theres no change in .config
[11:44] <peter__> predaeus: yea, the command echoes back a bunch of info in my terminal.
[11:45] <lousygarua> Layer-8: if u locate the .o file of that module and remove it (or put it somewhere else so make see it does not exist) it will recompile it
[11:45] <CorpseFeeder> lousygarua: Thanks for that.. I didn't need to change password or anything... I was able to see the 7.04 home directory from the recovery mode root command line and therefore remember the username to log in ;)
[11:45] <predaeus> peter__, "man asterisk" should show the manual pages for the application, you can quit it with "q" and scoll with page-up/down
[11:45] <lousygarua> CorpseFeeder: glad to help :)
[11:46] <peter__> predaeus: but i dont think there's something wrong with asterisk tho beacuse things work fine when im on dynamic ip adress and clients access server from same lan
[11:47] <peter__> predaeus: The problem occured when i changed from dynamic ip to static
[11:47] <Layer-8> lousygarua, the .o or the .ko or both?
[11:47] <^tiNee^> n2diy u wouldnt happen to know the name of it do u?
[11:47] <peter__> predaeus:  so asterisk config is okey i think
[11:47] <lousygarua> Layer-8: dunno :) just mv them to another folder so if u do some mistake they won't get lost
[11:48] <Layer-8> lousygarua, yeah...will try that...i hate this blackberry shit under linux... ;-)
[11:48] <n2diy> tiNee, fortunes? Gives you a daily fortune tellers predicitons.
[11:48] <sledgeas> Trogdor3634: thanks for links ;)
[11:48] <^tiNee^> o cool thanks
[11:48] <Trogdor3634> sledgeas: tell me if anything works, spent all night working on that before I fixed it
[11:49] <predaeus> Layer-8, please watch your language, people here are trying to keep the channel family friendly
[11:49] <sidenet> hello
[11:49] <^tiNee^> if i accidently removed the bottom bar on my desktop how do i bring it back?
[11:49] <Layer-8> predaeus, please first read what I wrote...
[11:49] <predaeus> peter__, but you say the packets reach your computer?
[11:50] <sidenet> anyone familiar with installing ati x300 and compiz fusion?
[11:50] <peter__> predaeus: yea, and i can ssh to it also
[11:51] <predaeus> peter__, did you try to packet sniffer to see what the conversation between client and server looks like? with e.g. wireshark
[11:51] <predaeus> I think you mentioned before that you did. hm no idea.
[11:52] <sidenet> guess not :(
[11:53] <dromer> anyone know how I can disable the 2nd dhclient from starting up on boot?
[11:56] <peter__> predaeus: oops, i have to told asterisk which ip adress it will listen on, since i changed from dhpc to static! So there was a problem with the asterisk-config. hehe. oki thx for the help!
[11:56] <TheDarkKiller> Any advice on how to install Windows XP on a harddrive with Ubuntu already on it?
[11:57] <predaeus> peter__, nice that it works now. you are welcome :-)
[11:58] <_epik_> hi
[11:58] <HymnToLife> TheDarkKiller, make a partition for it, install, reinstall GRUB
[11:58] <_epik_> i have problem with openvpn
[11:58] <_epik_> still cannot the conf file of oepnvpn
[11:58] <TheDarkKiller> Thanks
[11:59] <TheDarkKiller> Finally a simple answer!
[11:59] <dv_> heh
[11:59] <dv_> hard to get indeed
[11:59] <sidenet> think someone can help me out with my ati driver?
[11:59] <HymnToLife> sidenet, maybe. what's the matter ?
[11:59] <sidenet> i believe i have it properly installed, but i can't run beryl or compiz fusion
[12:00] <Michael147> Does anybody in here know when the UKs GCSE results are due?
[12:00] <dv_> TheDarkKiller, if you have to move the existing ubuntu partition or something, make a backup first, just to be safe
[12:00] <HymnToLife> sidenet,   glxinfo | grep -i direct
[12:00] <HymnToLife> yes or no ?
[12:00] <sidenet> i've read numerous tutorials on how to install the driver for my ati radeon mobility x300
[12:00] <rambo3> sidenet, aiglx "ati" driver
[12:00] <dv_> reinstall grub from the live CD, since xp erases the boot menu and you are no longer able to boot into linux
[12:00] <dv_> err ubuntu that is
[12:01] <HymnToLife> !offtopic | Michael147
[12:01] <HymnToLife> uh-oh, seems ubotu is dead :(
[12:01] <sidenet> direct rendering = yes
[12:01] <Michael147> HymnToLife, oh sorry, i tend to do that alot.
[12:01] <Frogzoo> !test
[12:01] <dv_> ubotu has gone the way of the betamax
[12:01] <Michael147> Go off topic i mean.
[12:01] <SlimeyPete> !german
[12:01] <SlimeyPete> yep
[12:01] <_epik_> http://pastebin.com/944833
[12:01] <Frogzoo> !booo
[12:02] <sidenet> hymntolife: what do you think?
[12:02] <varka> hi Michael147, did you get your intel NIC running?
[12:03] <rambo3> sidenet, what driver are you using ?
[12:03] <Michael147> Hi varka! Well to cut a long answer short no.
[12:03] <sidenet> ati catalyst
[12:03] <varka> :/
[12:03] <sidenet> er
[12:03] <sidenet> that's the control center
[12:04] <DanShotMe> Hi all. I'm new to Ubuntu. Can anyone help me with getting wireless networking up?
[12:04] <DanShotMe> Using Edimax EW-7318USg
[12:05] <Michael147> varka, i gave up. After what must have been about 3 days. I got what i believed to be the driver, i then installed it and got a limited or no connectivity message from windows.
[12:05] <rambo3> sidenet,  ati works with aiglx , in terminal :  gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:05] <Michael147> varka, that was the final straw.
[12:05] <varka> too bad
[12:05] <sidenet> varka
[12:06] <varka> sidenet: ?
[12:06] <sidenet> this is my driver info
[12:06] <sidenet> fglrxinfo
[12:06] <sidenet> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[12:06] <sidenet> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[12:06] <sidenet> OpenGL renderer string: ATI MOBILITY RADEON X300
[12:06] <sidenet> OpenGL version string: 2.0.6400 (8.35.5)
[12:06] <TheDarkKiller> DanShotMe: If all hardware is ready to go, System -> Administration -> Network -> Wireless Connection.
[12:06] <DanShotMe> I've been trying that
[12:06] <Michael147> SPAM lmao
[12:06] <rambo3> sidenet, that wont work
[12:06] <TheDarkKiller> Yes?
[12:06] <DanShotMe> Tries to connect to wireless, then reverts to wired
[12:07] <sidenet> i've read through at least 5 tutorials to install the proper driver
[12:07] <sidenet> do you think you can point me in the right direction?
[12:07] <kleuter> #Greenlab.co.za
[12:07] <TheDarkKiller> Try tick off the wired connection.
[12:07] <rambo3> sidenet, aiglx work with original driver that came with ubuntu
[12:07] <DanShotMe> Did that too. It just comes back on
[12:07] <rambo3> sidenet, http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Feisty_with_AIGLX
[12:07] <TheDarkKiller> Weird.
[12:07] <DanShotMe> I tried this too: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=400236
[12:08] <DanShotMe> System hangs when I get to "sudo ifconfig wlan0 down"
[12:08] <rambo3> sidenet, also change fglrx to ati sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:08] <TheDarkKiller> I have no idea why it doesn't work.
[12:08] <TheDarkKiller> Are you sure the accesspoint exists?
[12:08] <DanShotMe> Yes
[12:08] <sidenet> k
[12:08] <DanShotMe> Works fine with Windows and OS X
[12:08] <rambo3> DanShotMe, what type of card is it ?
[12:09] <DanShotMe> Edimax EW-7318USg
[12:10] <DanShotMe> System installed it first as 2 adapters: wlan0 and wmaster0
[12:10] <rambo3> DanShotMe,  ralink cards should be supported . did you install firmware ?
[12:10] <DanShotMe> But since running the fix shown above, it now shows as wlan1
[12:10] <sidenet> thanks rambo
[12:10] <rambo3> DanShotMe, it should be ra0 . try typing in terminal : sudo dhclient ra0
[12:10] <DanShotMe> Didn't install any firmwre
[12:11] <DanShotMe> OK, I get "no such device"
[12:11] <rambo3> DanShotMe, : sudo dhclient rausb0
[12:11] <Bieleke> i have a xorg.conf related to admin - screenresolution
[12:11] <DanShotMe> Again no such device
[12:11] <dromer> does anyone know how I can turn one of my dhclients off during boot?
[12:12] <Bieleke> in xorg.conf i see all the resolutions ranged from 1280x1024 to 640x354
[12:12] <Bieleke> but in choose screen resolution from the menu, i only can choose 1280 or 1024 to 640
[12:12] <rambo3> DanShotMe, : sudo modprobe rt73
[12:12] <Bieleke> but 1280 is too big and 1024 is too small
[12:12] <Bieleke> how can i fix that ?
[12:13] <DanShotMe> rambo3: no response to that
[12:13] <rambo3> DanShotMe, it means it loaded a driver
[12:13] <DanShotMe> OK, should I try those other 2 agan?
[12:13] <rambo3> Daonly second one
[12:13] <Trogdor3634> Could anyone explain to me exactly what a /boot partition DOES?
[12:14] <Trogdor3634> Is the OS stored in the root in that kind of partition scheme?
[12:14] <DanShotMe> rambo3: Still "no such device"
[12:15] <rambo3> DanShotMe, did you finish that how to from ubuntuforums ?
[12:15] <Frogzoo> Trogdor3634: /boot is where the kernel & init image are
[12:15] <DanShotMe> I did all of it except the 2 ifconfig lines
[12:15] <DanShotMe> The first one hung the system
[12:15] <DanShotMe> The 2nd one came back with no such device
[12:15] <ustaadmin> hi, we have a big lag within every application. The home-directory is mounted via nfs and i guess there is the problem. a SEEK_SET takes quite long. But it ran fine with the same mountoptions on another system. Is there a way to speed up NFS-Mounts under ubuntu? (or a not common way^^)
[12:15] <DanShotMe> 1st: sudo ifconfig wlan0 down
[12:16] <DanShotMe> 2nd: sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[12:16] <Trogdor3634> Frogzoo: So in a partition scheme with a /boot, what goes on root? Installed programs only?
[12:16] <rambo3> DanShotMe, that line ( 9. ) ?
[12:17] <DanShotMe> rambo3: Oops... I tell a lie - I didn't go any further than that 2nd ifconfig (12.)
[12:17] <n2diy> DanShotMe: for giggles, try it without sudo?
[12:17] <DanShotMe> rambo3: yes, 1st section was 9.
[12:17] <DanShotMe> I did the other lines in section 9. though
[12:17] <rambo3> DanShotMe, if it freezes you can do 10. then reboot . since rebooting is basicly what 9. does
[12:17] <Frogzoo> Trogdor3634: http://tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/index.html
[12:17] <Rienzilla> ustaadmin: DNS issues maybe?
[12:18] <Rienzilla> weird latencies in networking stuff are often DNS resolves not working
[12:18] <DanShotMe> I thought as much
[12:18] <Trogdor3634> Frogzoo: thanks
[12:18] <DanShotMe> I did 10
[12:18] <DanShotMe> It seemed to change things - only 1 wireless adapter shown in networking instead of 2
[12:18] <rambo3> DanShotMe, reboot and continue with 11
[12:18] <DanShotMe> And adapter had changed its name
[12:18] <ustaadmin> Rienzilla we do not use names, we run everything via IP
[12:19] <DanShotMe> rambo3: OK, will try reboot. Back soon
[12:19] <Rienzilla> even then, a machine might be trying to look up the hostname for an IP in some cases
[12:20] <dromer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29204/  << the 2nd dhcp sometimes starts up mysteriously, I'd like to shut it off, anybode know how to do thin?
[12:20] <ustaadmin> also if they do, they are all directly in /etc/hosts
[12:20] <Rienzilla> ok
[12:20] <Rienzilla> then that's probably not it
[12:21] <ustaadmin> we are also using NIS, but all lookups first check local files
[12:21] <ustaadmin> and the lag is definitly when hitting the NFS-mounted homedirectory
[12:21] <Ademan> is glipper still under active development? the sourceforge page doesn't seem to think so, does anyone know first hand? and more importantly, are there any "good" alternatives?
[12:23] <Frogzoo> ustaadmin: this lag is only for the first access?
[12:24] <ustaadmin> no it is not. For example, everytime i startup firefox it does a get seek, and directly afterwards a SEEK_SET in the default profile. This SEEK_SET takes about 2 minutes
[12:25] <ustaadmin> So it actually is the second access, since we made an operation already
[12:25] <ustaadmin> Nevertheless the real problem starts within evolution, every mail takes 5 min. to download via 100mbit, and there are still 6k mails on the server *hide*
[12:26] <epod> sounds like a problem.
[12:26] <epod> lol
[12:26] <Frogzoo> ustaadmin: 2 minutes there's clearly something wrong - 2 minute lags are 99.999% due to missing name lookups
[12:26] <Rienzilla> ustaadmin: hmm maybe nis server lookups that fail?
[12:27] <Bieleke> nobody for the resolutions ?
[12:27] <DanShotMe> rambo3: rebooted. Doesn't seem to have helped
[12:27] <rambo3> DanShotMe, just continue with howto
[12:28] <beaveling> Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0 What does it mean?
[12:28] <epod> beaveling, your floppy drive or the disk in it have an error
[12:28] <ustaadmin> passwd/group/shadow: nis files compat -- hosts/networks: files nis -- this is nssswitch, all known hosts are directly in /etc/hosts
[12:29] <beaveling> when istalling form CD I got than error during install
[12:29] <beaveling> but on other comp it worked fine
[12:29] <rambo3> DanShotMe, what is the device named now ? sudo lshw -C network
[12:29] <ustaadmin> i did not try the mailserver to be in hosts too, but firefox does not try calling anything during startup, strace reveils a SEEK_SET on the profile, so i do not think its name resolution
[12:30] <ustaadmin> the profile-file is mounted via NFS, so i think there has to be the problem, or at least i guess
[12:30] <beaveling> and since I got that error on laptop with no floppy and two logicals with Win on one
[12:33] <Cinderella> Hello world
[12:33] <L0cKn> hi Cinderella
[12:33] <L0cKn> ;)
[12:33] <gordonjcp> hello cinderella
[12:34] <Cinderella>  :D
[12:34] <Frogzoo> ustaadmin: the other thing to look for would be reverse lookups that time out
[12:34] <ustaadmin>  /nishome/theuser/.mozilla/firefox/sf78a4s.default/.parentlock is the file with the 2 min. SEEK_SET ;P
[12:35] <Cinderella> Which country are you?
[12:35] <n2diy> NA
[12:35] <inazad> Hi there, I want to recover a file from an .asc file but I don't have the key anymore..
[12:36] <n2diy> inazad: did you register the key online?
[12:36] <Tomcat_> inazad: .asc as in "gpg encrypted"?
[12:36] <inazad> n2diy, just the public key I think
[12:37] <Frogzoo> inazad: contact the NSA
[12:37] <Tomcat_> Apart from brute force, I guess you're out of luck...
[12:37] <inazad> Tomcat_, euhh its the signature..
[12:37] <Tomcat_> The sig doesn't contain the key.
[12:37] <Tomcat_> Eh.. the file.
[12:37] <n2diy> inazad: without the private key, your doomed.
[12:37] <inazad> Tomcat_, but when I has the key, I just have to enter the passphrase and I recover my file :P
[12:37] <Tomcat_> The sig doesn't contain the file.
[12:37] <Tomcat_> Ah, now I understand.
[12:37] <ustaadmin> via nssswitch hosts/networks: files nis - this should make lookups using the local file first, shouldn't it?
[12:37] <Tomcat_> Good question, I don't know unfortunately.
[12:38] <Cinderella> In ubuntu  what TextToSpeech software are often used ?
[12:38] <inazad> Tomcat_, I erased my file because my signature create to me myfile...
[12:39] <DanShotM2> rambo3: Not sure whether last 2 messages came through, due to change of network interface. Just wanted to say: it works & THANK YOU!
[12:39] <ustaadmin> fcntl(4, F_SETLK, {type=F_WRLCK, whence=SEEK_SET, start=0, len=0} this is the point where it does keep waiting (for nothing)
[12:39] <inazad> What I can do ?
[12:39] <rambo3> DanShotM2, good .
[12:39] <n2diy> inazad: without the private key, your doomed.
[12:40] <inazad> n2diy, can I rebuild the private key with the public key ?
[12:40] <n2diy> inazad: nope
[12:40] <epod> that'd be counter to the whole point of public key encryption
[12:40] <Frogzoo> inazad: encryption can't be bribed
[12:41] <n2diy> epod: yep
[12:41] <calc> good morning
[12:41] <inazad> Frogzoo, I know the passphrase so..
[12:41] <gerro> having a webcam problem same as here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=378935 except feisty version
[12:41] <Cinderella> good night
[12:41] <Frogzoo> inazad: the passphrase isn't the private key though
[12:41] <inazad> Frogzoo, I know but ...
[12:41] <n2diy> Cinderella: is it midnight already?
[12:42] <Cinderella> 18:42
[12:42] <sarthor> using ubuntu fiesty, want to configure htb. Fiesty fully installed and updated.. what pkgs ihave to download and install??
[12:43] <n2diy> Cinderella: Heck, that is dinner time here, which is 0640
[12:43] <rambo3> whats the name of dreamweaver  like program for linux
[12:44] <rambo3> nvu nu wu
[12:44] <calc> rambo3: nvu
[12:44] <rambo3> thanks
[12:44] <Cinderella> n2diy: I have eaten Matata ; :D (china)
[12:44] <antonio_> foker me
[12:44] <rambo3> !find nvu feisty
[12:44] <epod> rambo3,  sudo apt-get install nvu should suffice
[12:45] <rambo3> yeah it does not
[12:45] <epod> hmm
[12:45] <n2diy> Cinderella: Never heard of it! I planning on Pesto for lunch.
[12:45] <epod> rambo3, you have to have universe and multiverse enabled in synaptic
[12:46] <Bieleke> rambo3: u use html in combination with php ?
[12:47] <sarthor> using ubuntu fiesty, want to configure htb. Fiesty fully installed and updated.. what pkgs ihave to download and install??
[12:47] <ewook> !htb
[12:47] <n2diy> ewook: ubotu is ill.
[12:48] <ewook> =/
[12:48] <ewook> thanks for the info.
[12:50] <rambo3> epod so you get nvu in feisty ? i have all repos and some more
[12:50] <epod> ewook, try sudo apt-cache search htb ?
[12:50] <epod> hm
[12:50] <rambo3> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&subword=1&version=feisty&release=all&keywor
[12:50] <epod> apparently it got removed in feisty
[12:50] <epod> as its not under developement
[12:50] <epod> rambo3, http://www.planetmy.com/blog/?p=340
[12:50] <ilikec0ws> Is the vanilla edition of ubuntu the official install?
[12:50] <Bieleke> rambo3: i'll ask it again :-) Are you using html with php ?
[12:50] <epod> looks like something called Kompozer is replacing it
[12:50] <Frogzoo> ilikec0ws: they're all 'official'
[12:51] <ilikec0ws> Frogzoo, I just read loads of people writing about a vanilla edition of ubuntu?
[12:51] <rambo3> Bieleke, sometimes . gedit
[12:51] <ilikec0ws> Frogzoo, On Digg
[12:51] <epod> huh impressive.
[12:51] <Bieleke> rambo3: in that case, using zend studio is a better alternative, my experience is that nvu sucks bigtime
[12:52] <rambo3> Bieleke, thanks i ll check it out
[12:53] <n2diy> ! ubotu
[12:53] <gerro> having some picture distortion with logitech quickcam chat, been trying different webcam apps, think its resolution its at or something
[12:53] <gerro> having some picture distortion with logitech quickcam chat, been trying different webcam apps, think its resolution its at or something
[12:53] <n2diy> poor Ubotu, they won't let him alone?
[12:54] <kml_> do someone know how to add a font to my fonts collection
[12:54] <kml_> ?
[12:54] <epod> gerro, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111225
[12:54] <sarthor> using ubuntu fiesty, want to configure htb. Fiesty fully installed and updated.. what pkgs ihave to download and install??
[12:55] <Bieleke> sarthor: fiesty does not exist, it's feisty
[12:56] <ilikec0ws> sarthor, Instead of asking us why not just search it on synaptic, add it and it will tell you othe dependencies its grabbed?
[12:57] <gerro> epod: the drivers are already bundled with feisty so I was wondering if there was a simple tweak I could do with that
[12:58] <sarthor> ilikec0ws, there is not pkg naming htb
[12:58] <epod> I had to install some qc-messenger thing to get mine working when I used it
[12:58] <epod> but I dont have it any more
[12:58] <epod> unfortunately
[12:58] <gerro> epod: also that is "messenger" and I have the "chat" version
[12:58] <epod> ahh
[12:58] <epod> couldnt say then
[12:58] <epod> sorry
[12:59] <gerro> epod: my picture just shows up blank or is cut off :(
[01:03] <Lorne_Kun> Where can i found out what firewire cards will work easily in Fiesty?
[01:03] <gerro> epod: what qb4ever posted here might work, going to try it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=364365
[01:03] <epod> cool
[01:03] <gerro> epod: what happened to your cam?
[01:04] <epod> gerro, sold that comp, with the cam
[01:04] <epod> lol
[01:04] <sarthor> ilikec0ws, there is not pkg naming htb
[01:04] <gerro> epod: kind of a cheap cam, I just went for something generic so I could be sure it would work
[01:05] <ubuntuEdgy> hi
[01:05] <Romnous> hi
[01:06] <epod> gerro, I expect it will eventually, probably just some silly config issue.
[01:07] <nulix> hello noway to get some sound input through my NVidia CK804 sound card ; output is ok ; where to search ?
[01:08] <Romnous> right..
[01:10] <MCTom> hrrm, I've installed Linux but it won't seem to recognise my wireless connector
[01:12] <honke> Hi everyone
[01:12] <Lorne_Kun> i have a hardware-type question ;)
[01:12] <Lorne_Kun> I have an oldschool style soundblaster audigy soundcard (i think its the first one that came out)
[01:12] <honke> I am running an Intellistation M-Pro, and I just installed feisty server. GRUB hard drive error, and I ran a disk checkup. Someone at OSDL told me to switch to LILO
[01:13] <honke> How do I replace GRUB with LILO on a dual core system?
[01:13] <Lorne_Kun> when i put it in my ubuntu box, it recognizes the card, as well as recognizing its firewire port, but i dont get sound output.
[01:13] <DdP> ola
[01:14] <Frogzoo> Lorne_Kun: if it's really old, you might need to set the irq/io jumpers, and/or set the irq/io for the driver
[01:14] <ustaadmin> 10 MB of Data to be saved locally in 0.04 and via NFS (mounted) in 0.09 should be fine, shouldn't it?
[01:15] <DdP> ola
[01:15] <Lorne_Kun> i got it in...
[01:15] <Darter> I am having a problem deleting a .log file. I have deleted this file everywhere I find it and it still shows up in System Log files and in Text Editor. Can anyone step me thru how to access them and delete them?
[01:15] <Lorne_Kun> O2 i think it was
[01:15] <DdP> ehh??
[01:15] <Frogzoo> Lorne_Kun: or plug your speakers in the right jack
[01:15] <DdP> i no speak english ajaj
[01:15] <Lorne_Kun> Frogzoo: obviously i did that.
[01:15] <jatt> Darter: rm -f
[01:15] <Darter> huh?
[01:16] <jatt> ?
[01:16] <DdP> jaj
[01:16] <DdP> ke lio
[01:16] <Romnous> remove with the -f flag to delete the log file
[01:16] <jatt> Darter: man rm
[01:16] <Romnous> make sure you target the log file though xD
[01:16] <honke> Anyone?
[01:16] <Lorne_Kun> i think its an issue with ubuntu specifically, because i didnt seem to have a problem with fedora.
[01:16] <honke> Does anyone know how I can replace GRUB with LILO?
[01:17] <Romnous> i have a link for you
[01:17] <Romnous> http://www.piertopier.net/forum/YaBB.pl?board=Wisdom;action=display;num=1068140545
[01:17] <MCTom> Does anyone use a linksys wireless-G USB device to connect to their wireless network on ubuntu?
[01:17] <honke> thank you Romnous
[01:18] <calc> MCTom: i think that they use several different chips for those
[01:18] <calc> MCTom: depending on the exact model you have
[01:18] <calc> MCTom: and revision
[01:19] <enterrador> 
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[01:19] <enterrador> 
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[01:19] <enterrador> TOA
[01:19] <Romnous> spam spam
[01:19] <MCTom> well my router is a WRT54GS, my USB connector is the equivalent :)
[01:20] <enterrador> TONTO TONTO
[01:20] <jatt> ?
[01:20] <jatt> !paste
[01:20] <revilodraw> hi! im using the edgy livecd now so i can get help to load my feisty which is installed on the hd, but havent been able ti use yet because when i do i get x problems
[01:20] <sao3> join #
[01:21] <Romnous> revilodraw: you can't load feisty??
[01:22] <revilodraw> romnous; that is correct.. i installed it last night from the update manager, and when it restarted i got a bliue screen telling me of x problems and that there are no screens found (which i found quite ironic)
[01:23] <Romnous> you might format your partition, dl the cd and install it from the cd
 make sure you target the log file though xD...ok, dumb question...where and what is xD?
[01:24] <revilodraw> romnous; i think there will be a much easier fix than that
[01:25] <Romnous> xD = smiley
[01:25] <Romnous> revilodraw: i'm sure there is, but that one is the most effective
[01:25] <Darter> pretend I'm blonde, Romnous
[01:25] <Romnous> darter: turn it 90 degrees to the right
[01:26] <Romnous> or move your head to the left :P
[01:26] <Romnous> revilodraw: you got an ubuntu-distro working with the same system before ??
[01:26] <revilodraw> im using the livecd, how do i open my xorg.conf file that is stored on my hard drive
[01:27] <revilodraw> romnous; yes i did, dapper and edgy
[01:27] <Romnous> hmm :/
[01:27] <Darter> ok...got it......so where and how do I "target" the log file?
[01:27] <Romnous> you can access the hdd through File Browser from the lifedisc
[01:27] <Romnous> the log file you talked about which was irritating you, seek it in your hdd
[01:28] <Darter> and nothing appears when I do a search...but it's there nonetheless
[01:28] <Romnous> hmm :/
[01:28] <Romnous> what's the name of the log file?
[01:28] <revilodraw> Romnous: you can access the hdd through File Browser from the lifedisc?? can u elaborate pls?
[01:29] <Romnous> i mean livedisc
[01:29] <Darter> in fact...if you pull it up in Text Editor and delete the contents and save it....it saves the delected version plus the original
[01:29] <Romnous> you are on edgy eft disc right now??
[01:29] <revilodraw> romnous; yes
[01:29] <ustaadmin> Do you think, a typo in the mountoption of NFS (8192/8129 ...) could be the issue of the heavy application lags while hitting the NFS-mounted fs?
[01:30] <ustaadmin> ;P
[01:30] <Romnous> ok then there's a file browser
[01:30] <gerro> epod: hmm v4lctl list is very helpful webcam command :)
[01:30] <epod> gerro, you got it fixed?
[01:30] <gerro> epod: well I installed that driver and it doesn't cut the screen in half or blank
[01:30] <epod> nice.
[01:31] <ubuntu_> nice
[01:31] <gerro> epod: its really dark though think I need to tune the settings :)
[01:31] <epod> yeah I had that same problem
[01:31] <epod> colours were washed out too
[01:31] <gerro> epod: I'm reading this guide here, sounds awesome http://www.seismo.ethz.ch/linux/webcam.html
[01:32] <gerro> epod: want a pic of my bedroom?
[01:32] <ubuntu_> good tools
[01:32] <ubuntu_> I like
[01:33] <epod> gerro, uhh not especially? lol
[01:33] <gerro> epod: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=52byeq0 it looks all dark and blobby like
[01:33] <epod> yeah that seems... messed up
[01:33] <epod> lol
[01:33] <gerro> epod: that thing top right is my closet
[01:33] <aznpridechinese> anyone know how to get transparent windows in gnome just like in kde?
[01:34] <Romnous> get beryl or compiz-fusion, that's better than only transparent windows
[01:35] <hrasko> hi
[01:35] <aznpridechinese> i'm running beryl on gnome right now
[01:36] <aznpridechinese> and i can't get transparent windows
[01:36] <bohdan> hi im goin to be a complete idiot and annoy everyone, but...... can u run beryl on the ATI drivers (not the open source ones)
[01:36] <epod> Yes you can
[01:36] <epod> but its weirder to set up
[01:37] <Romnous> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-desktop-x-windows/6069-making-transparent-windows-kde-gnome.html
[01:37] <bohdan> any easy tutorials on how?
[01:37] <ustaadmin> and it does not run on all ati-cards, vor example the hp-packed x300xSomething-onboard (yes onboard, and no, its not mine) won't work.
[01:38] <wbadger> hi guys, gaim (pidgin?) 2 beta6 crashes on me every time I connect, is this a known problem?
[01:38] <hrasko> is it possible to set up Globetrotter +3G PCMCIA card on Ubuntu 7.04 AMD64 ?
[01:38] <aznpridechinese> it seems nvidia cards are easier to setup
[01:38] <Romnous> i have had no probs with pidgin whatsoever
[01:38] <Romnous> try reinstalling the package??!
[01:38] <bohdan> beryl runs on the open ati drivers, but wen i install their ones it wont run
[01:38] <Romnous> or get a non-beta
[01:38] <wbadger> Romnous, tried reinstalling
[01:38] <TheDarkKiller> Hey. I just booted up my Windows XP installation CD, and it wanted to have a partition in the first harddisk, but I'm installing it in my second harddrive. What to do from here?
[01:38] <wbadger> Romnous, and this is the version that came with my freshly installed xubuntu
[01:38] <hrasko> I found some howtos on Internet but it was not especially for this AMD64
[01:38] <Romnous> hmm weird
[01:39] <Romnous> is it gaim or pidgin?
[01:39] <wbadger> Romnous, it says gaim 2.0.0. beta6
[01:39] <Romnous> if it's gaim, sudo apt-get install pidgin
[01:40] <wbadger> oh it is in the repositories then! thanks :)
[01:40] <Romnous> i think so xD
[01:40] <aznpridechinese> test
[01:40] <wbadger> well.. no it isnt
[01:40] <hrasko> test
[01:41] <Romnous> here you go: http://jhcore.com/2007/06/04/install-pidgin-in-ubuntu/
[01:41] <erUSUL> bohdan: you can run it in fglrx but you have to use xgl (not the native aiglx of Xorg) my recomendation is that you use the radeon (free) drivers
[01:41] <wbadger> thanks :)
[01:41] <Romnous> np
[01:42] <Frederick> folks anyone sucessfully using javahl and netbeans in ubuntu?  Iseem unable to set it up netbeans snmply does not find the files
[01:42] <bohdan> erUSUL: ya but games run like crap under the (free) drivers :(
[01:43] <aznpridechinese> does anyone know how to set transparent windows in gnome while using beryl?
[01:43] <Romnous> i posted a link before
[01:44] <Dusk_> !adsl
[01:44] <elbing> i82801 AC 97, what's the hell problem with that chip in linux? anybody has sound with that intel? (yes, sound; alsamixer has convinced that there is sound playing but really not :p). I've tried compiling 1.0.14 rc2 but that hcip hates me
[01:44] <elbing> *chip
[01:44] <Dusk_> !dsl
[01:44] <Dusk_> i have a question about my usb adsl modem...where do i need to ask???
[01:44] <Dusk_> this channel??
[01:45] <Romnous> if it has something to do with ubuntu xD
[01:45] <IceLink> hey there
[01:45] <Romnous> aznpridechinese: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/make-your-gnome-terminal-background-mostlytransparent-on-ubuntu/
[01:45] <Dusk_> Romnous, i want to disconnect and connect internet with new ip to download somethings from rapidshare
[01:46] <Dusk_> Romnous, but when i give poff command and then pon ueagle-atm command
[01:46] <Romnous> lol that's kinda illegal
[01:46] <lazz0> naw its smart
[01:46] <Romnous> you can just turn of your modem and turn it back on
[01:46] <Romnous> your ip is dynamic right?
[01:46] <Dusk_> Romnous, it's a usb modem...no on off button =)
[01:47] <Romnous> lol ok
[01:47] <Dusk_> Romnous, yeah dynamic
[01:47] <aznpridechinese> romuous: no not talking about terminal transparency, like if you opened up a file browser, or firefox, i'm talking about making everything transparent like you can do in kde.
[01:47] <Romnous> lolol then look in the beryl wiki
[01:47] <Dusk_> Romnous, in another distrubition i was giving "pppoe-start" and "pppoe-stop" commands
[01:47] <Dusk_> Romnous, and it was ok
[01:48] <Romnous> you can look for similar commands in ubuntu
[01:48] <Romnous> lemme search
[01:48] <Dusk_> Romnous, thanks
[01:48] <hrasko> \quit
[01:48] <hrasko> ;)
[01:48] <Dusk_> :)
[01:49] <IceLink> are there 2 rosegardens?
[01:49] <IceLink> i think apt-get installs a totally different one
[01:49] <Romnous> Dusk_ can you try to install pppoe-start or something
[01:50] <Romnous> it should be in the distro
[01:50] <Dusk_> Romnous, i installed pppoe with apt-get
[01:50] <Dusk_> Romnous, now let me try to configure
[01:50] <Romnous> ok
[01:50] <Romnous> pppoeconf
[01:51] <Romnous> or if you aren't root it doesn't work right?!
[01:51] <Romnous> sudo pppoe-start
[01:52] <Dusk_> Romnous, pppoeconf says no ethernet connection
[01:52] <Dusk_> Romnous, i tried pppoe-setup
[01:52] <Dusk_> Romnous, and it says:
[01:52] <Dusk_> Oh, dear, I don't see the file '/etc/ppp/pppoe.conf' anywhere.  Please
[01:52] <Dusk_> re-install the PPPoE client.
[01:52] <Romnous> ?!
[01:52] <Dusk_> Romnous, reinstalled and nothing
[01:52] <Romnous> wait i found a tut
[01:53] <Romnous> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=368226
[01:53] <Romnous> check Janusz11 post later on in the topic
[01:53] <jedi79> he guys can someone pm me pleaseim having a bitch of a time mounting my windows partitions with read/write
[01:53] <Romnous> he had probs with root-access though
[01:53] <Dusk_> ok let me check
[01:54] <IceLink> what is "cmake"?
[01:54] <Romnous> man cmake
[01:54] <IceLink> don't have it
[01:55] <Superkuh> Feisty 64bit; After restarting the X server to load changes, probably not the cause but only the catalyst, I find that I cannot open gnome-terminal. Alt-F2 and xterm; I try to run gnome-terminal and recieve the error: "BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation), serial 105 error_code 2 request_code 78". I've tried reinstalling gnome-terminal via apt-get to no avail. I installed multi-gnome-terminal for kicks but it to
[01:55] <Superkuh> o fails, complaining of Gdk-CRITIAL errors. Any ideas as to how I might pin the problem down further?
[01:55] <VivekShamra2> iam already running a 40GB hdd with winxp in it..I need to run another HDD of 80GB, and have some linux flavor in it ....
[01:55] <VivekShamra2>  ....so can i do it ?
[01:55] <Romnous> CMake  is an extensible, open-source system that manages the build process in an operating system and compiler independent manner.
[01:55] <VivekShamra2> How would i have bootloader ask me which hdd to boot from ?
[01:55] <Romnous> by installing a bootloader :P
[01:56] <IceLink> which is the newsest verion of cmake?
[01:56] <Romnous> 2.0
[01:56] <IceLink> i'e used apt-get for 2.23 but i need 2.4.2
[01:56] <tck_> is there a way to pause the screen during boot process ?
[01:57] <Romnous> pause the screen???!!!
[01:57] <VoX> tck_: no
[01:57] <tapas> knetworkmanager doent manage to connect to my wireless
[01:57] <tapas> i can do it manualy though#
[01:57] <Romnous> good for you
[01:57] <tapas> via iwconfig
[01:57] <LucianIndy> tck_, why would you want to do that
[01:57] <tapas> so i wonder how i can get knetworkmanager to behaqve
[01:57] <VoX> tck_: but you can look in /var/log/dmesg to see what was loaded during boot
[01:57] <Romnous> i don't get it either tck :P
[01:57] <tapas> i remember i fixed it before
[01:57] <VivekShamra2> iam already running a 40GB hdd with winxp in it..I need to run another HDD of 80GB, and have some linux flavor in it ....
[01:57] <tapas> bt i forgot
[01:57] <VivekShamra2>  ....so can i do it ?if yes pls give some info on resources to refer for
[01:57] <tck_> a guy has asked on launchpad, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/9419
[01:58] <Romnous> you can sure
[01:58] <revilodraw> hi! when using the livecd, how do i edit my xorg.conf file on my hd
[01:58] <tck_> was trying to help him/her out and see if there was a way
[01:58] <Romnous> use your filebrowser
[01:58] <tapas> revilodraw: mount the root fs of your hd install
[01:58] <revilodraw> tapas: how??
[01:58] <VoX> revilodraw: sudo mount /dev/<drive> <mount point>
[01:59] <revilodraw> VoX; thank you
[01:59] <VoX> revilodraw: for example:  sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/temp
[01:59] <sockmonkee> I've just added brand new LCD panel, and after restarting while moving the mouse or watching movies I can see that the PC freezes for less than a second, this happens every +-2secs
[01:59] <Romnous> check your cables and update drivers
[01:59] <VoX> sockmonkee: i had that exact problem a few years ago
[02:00] <sockmonkee> vox: sollution?
[02:00] <VoX> sockmonkee: i never did work out what the problem was
[02:00] <VoX> :(
[02:00] <sockmonkee> lol
[02:00] <revilodraw> VoX; any way to take out the guess work? I have on big partition on my dell inspiron 6400, does this help to say wheter it is sda1 etc?
[02:00] <VoX> revilodraw: is it a sata hard disc or an older "pata" disc with the ribbon cable?
[02:00] <mrsno__> pata uses the ribbon cable VoX
[02:01] <mrsno__> sata cables are tiny/thin
[02:01] <VoX> mrsno__: re-read what i said
[02:01] <sockmonkee> I can see on the system load graph that cpu load is violently oscillating but I can find the problem
[02:01] <VivekShamra2> iam already running a 40GB hdd with winxp in it..I need to run another HDD of 80GB, and have some linux flavor in it ....
[02:01] <VivekShamra2>  ....so can i do it ?if yes pls give some info on resources to refer for
[02:01] <frank_> how can i create a index for locate in order to search all mounted filesystems? (they don't change)
[02:01] <VoX> frank_: updatedb
[02:01] <Romnous> you can run linux on the other hdd
[02:01] <mrsno__> oic VoX , my eyes aren't opened yet sorry :] 
[02:01] <frank_> VoX: does it take ALL mounted partitions by default?
[02:02] <VoX> frank_: yes
[02:02] <frank_> VoX: thanks :D
[02:02] <sockmonkee> have tried running top to see if one of the processes is miss behaving, but all looks normal
[02:02] <sockmonkee> perhaps an irq problem?
[02:02] <revilodraw> Vox: a sata disk.... i think i guessed right lol... brb
[02:02] <VoX> revilodraw: see if it has a thin red cable coming out, or a wide cable
[02:03] <revilodraw> VoX; in a laptop, i meant i guessed the mount points right.. i have mounted it..thanks!!
[02:03] <VoX> oh
[02:03] <VoX> rad
[02:03] <Romnous> nice :P
[02:03] <Romnous> brb
[02:03] <IceLink> can anyone help me with installing cmake 2.4.6?
[02:04] <Romnous> google
[02:04] <IceLink> Nice.
[02:04] <sockmonkee> help, anyone?
[02:04] <GODAttach> yuh
[02:05] <IceLink> i've downloaded a tar.gz but dunno what to do with it
[02:05] <nysosym> hi there, use gutsy the madwifi driver from svn?
[02:05] <aznpridechinese> can't find how to make all windows transparent on beryl wiki
[02:05] <IdleOne> !build-essential | IceLink
[02:06] <IceLink> the website says that i have to begin with "./bootstrap" but it doesn't exist although i've changed to the directory
[02:06] <frank_> VoX: it doesn't index all mounted partitions
[02:06] <askand> Hi can someone help me with a BCM4318 wlancard?
[02:06] <IceLink> is kuboto working?
[02:06] <IceLink> *u
[02:06] <frank_> VoX: updatedb excludes my /media by default, how can i change that?
[02:06] <VoX> frank_: weird
[02:07] <Frederick> folks anyone else having problems with the pacage libsvnjavahl I simply cannot find the right jar file to add to netbeans it does not contain the classes required by the test files
[02:08] <VoX> frank_: are you running updatedb as root(sudo) or as user?
[02:08] <FruitLoop> Can I transfer files from one linux machine to another linux machine on the same LAN using SSH?
[02:08] <frank_> VoX: yes
[02:09] <VoX> FruitLoop: scp
[02:09] <frank_> i looked at the manpage and it says
[02:09] <VoX> frank_: yes to which?
[02:09] <frank_> -u     Create slocate database starting at the root directory.  This is the default behavior when called as updatedb.
[02:09] <frank_> VoX: yes, as root
[02:09] <FruitLoop> VoX: what?
[02:09] <frank_> and after it is the "default behaviour" i have no idea...
[02:09] <VoX> frank_: yeah thats why i dont get it either. are the mounted drives listed in fstab?
[02:09] <frank_> VoX: yes
[02:10] <Lorne_Kun> hmmm
[02:10] <VoX> FruitLoop: scp is the command you want
[02:10] <VoX> frank_: that's.. bizzare
[02:10] <raddy> r00tintheb0x: Hi
[02:10] <frank_> FruitLoop: if you don't want to use cmdline, use "gftp" there you can select "SCP" as protocol and use it drag and drop like
[02:10] <Lorne_Kun> ok so i installed my audigy card, and it is "detected" but i dont think the sound is actually working.
[02:10] <FruitLoop> ah.. ok
[02:11] <FruitLoop> can't I use the places>connect to server thing to make a connection to the other computer?
[02:12] <Romnous> back
[02:13] <raddy> r00tintheb0x: aren't you there
[02:14] <askand> Hi can someone help me with a BCM4318 wlancard?
[02:14] <aznpridechinese> need help, how do i install my sound blaster x-fi extreme sound card driver? i went to the alsa web page but their driver doesn't work?
[02:14] <Romnous> look for alternative drivers on google
[02:15] <aznpridechinese> which alternative driver?
[02:15] <Pitel_laptop> how to qulickly update gnome menu after changing /usr/share/applications
[02:15] <Lorne_Kun> is anyone else having the same issue as me?
[02:15] <Romnous> for the one you want
[02:15] <Lorne_Kun> or know what I should be doing to actually get sound out working?
[02:16] <LucianIndy> frank_, in gFTP i didn't see a SCP option. . . only FTP SSH HTTP LOCAL and FSP
[02:16] <VoX> LucianIndy: select ssh
[02:17] <Lorne_Kun> i have a second question as well
[02:17] <LucianIndy> VoX, i imagine i have to get openssh
[02:17] <bayu> hello, i want to install ubuntu 7.04 but there are no floppy disk in my computer....  its...error... i can't install
[02:17] <bayu> error on device fd0, logical block 0
[02:17] <Romnous> you don't need floppy drive for the installation
[02:17] <VoX> LucianIndy: umm possibly. not sure to be honest. it's not a big package regardless
[02:17] <Lorne_Kun> Im looking to get a firewire card for my ubuntu box, is there a specific one i should get? is firewire even well supported?
[02:17] <Stromberg> I'm italian boy
[02:17] <frank_> LucianIndy: sry, use "SSH2"
[02:17] <frank_> that's scp
[02:18] <Stromberg> and search driver for conexant modem
[02:18] <LucianIndy> VoX, frank_ , thanks
[02:18] <Stromberg> help me
[02:18] <frank_> LucianIndy: you can also use winscp with wine, works really fine for me
[02:18] <VoX> Lorne_Kun: firewire itself isnt really a problem, it's dependant on the chipset
[02:18] <frank_> imho is winscp the best scp tool ever
[02:18] <echosystm> whats a good bittorrent client?
[02:19] <echosystm> something the quivalent of utorrent
[02:19] <revilodraw> azureus
[02:19] <Lorne_Kun> is there a place where i can look for what chipsets are supported?
[02:19] <VoX> echosystm: azureus
[02:19] <echosystm> im allergic to azureus :P
[02:19] <frank_> azureus, but on my machine it causes a segfault... but if it works it's really fine
[02:19] <Akifemre> azureus +1
[02:19] <echosystm> anything more lightweight?
[02:19] <Pici> echosystm: ktorrent, rtorrent...
[02:19] <VoX> echosystm: lightweight? what the hell are you running it on, a p2-300?
[02:19] <echosystm> do they allow throttling of bandwidth?
[02:19] <asc> echosystm: utorrent's supposed to work under wine
[02:19] <bayu> hello
[02:19] <frank_> echosystm: the gnome bittorrent client, but it only allows one download at a time because it isn't able to handle multiple connections through a port
[02:20] <echosystm> eek, that wont do
[02:20] <frank_> *a = one*
[02:20] <revilodraw> echosystem; u torrent semi works under wine
[02:20] <echosystm> i have as many as 20 torrents running at once
[02:20] <alvincev> Does anyone know how I can run a command with sudo and have it automatically put in the password, so I don't have to keep typing it all the time, everytime I want the file to run.
[02:20] <VoX> echosystm: opera has a torrent package included
[02:20] <Stromberg> I search driver for conexant modem, help me , please......
[02:20] <Lorne_Kun> ooooh!
[02:20] <Romnous> make a script for doing that alvincev
[02:20] <Lorne_Kun> i just got a neat error  for my soundcard
[02:20] <Romnous> GOOGLE :)
[02:20] <Romnous> what error??
[02:20] <Lorne_Kun> SOund Server overload
[02:20] <LucianIndy> alvin, thats not a good idea. you can specify the sudo timeout in sudoers
[02:21] <LucianIndy> so the password last's for, say, 15 min
[02:21] <alvincev> I'm just trying to run pppd
[02:21] <alvincev> It bugs all the time
[02:21] <Pici> alvincev: Alternatively, you could run sudo -i for an interactive sudoing session.
[02:21] <alvincev> I just want the pppd command to just run
[02:21] <alvincev> without any interactivity
[02:22] <Romnous> then sudo pppd
[02:22] <alvincev> It asks for a password
[02:22] <Romnous> then input the password
[02:22] <alvincev> But I just want it to run without asking for a password
[02:23] <alvincev> It's for my Sierra Aircard 875 Wireless, luckily, I was able to find documentation on running it in Linux
[02:24] <totto> hi  hawe a problem with my wire less network card that is dwl-ag550 ubuntu cant find it :(
[02:25] <LucianIndy> you might be able to chown, chgrp /usr/sbin/pppd to your current user id but im not sure if that would mess anything up or not
[02:25] <JayRoe_> Can someone tell me what to do when a device doesn't respond on evtest?
[02:26] <shnastybiznastic> irc.enterthegame.com
[02:26] <shnastybiznastic> whoops
[02:26] <shnastybiznastic> I'm a moron
[02:26] <craigbass1976> I'm getting ready to add a domain to a server.  The only thing confusing me is a zone file.  I already have a rev-inaddr-arpa file.  Do I add the new domain name to this file, or make a new one and refer to it in the newdomain.db file?  Does it matter what these reverse lookup files are called?
[02:27] <craigbass1976> Wow, not many in here today.  Only just over a thousand...
[02:27] <shnastybiznastic> it's only a monday morning, give it time
[02:27] <craigbass1976> everybody pooped from chatting all weekend...
[02:28] <apichart> Hello
[02:28] <phaidros7> talking about bind, craigbass1976?
[02:28] <bayu> (initramfs) ?????
[02:28] <craigbass1976> Here's a less technical question... When it's packed in here and I'm going to answer a question, I generally pull the "asker" aside so I can focus.  Is that bad?
[02:28] <craigbass1976> phaidros7, yes, bind
[02:29] <phaidros7> usually, there is an extra file for each domain (plus one for the reverse-lookup)
[02:29] <bayu> i can't install ubuntu 7.04...... (initramfs)
[02:29] <switchcat> for some reason my system seems to think synaptic is running even though it is not.  How can I check on this? I don't see it in ps -u
[02:29] <craigbass1976> phaidros7, I didn't know if the file name mattered.
[02:30] <craigbass1976> switchcat, for a second there I thought you meant symantec....
[02:30] <kbrooks> um
[02:30] <erUSUL> switchcat: maybe is not synaptic but the update manager which is blacking apt database
[02:30] <phaidros7> i think it should be according to the exaples
[02:30] <kbrooks> everyone, how do i reset my ns password?
[02:30] <wbadger> craigbass1976, I think its better to use naming (like I said craigbass1976 ) because then everyone can see the answer :) and I thing there's a log of this somewhere also
[02:30] <kbrooks> because i forgot it
[02:30] <switchcat> update manager doesn't seem to be currently running either
[02:31] <Pici> kbrooks: ns?
[02:31] <kbrooks> Pici, /ns, /msg nickserv
[02:31] <revilodraw> i cant boot into feisty due to 'no screens found'
[02:31] <Pici> kbrooks: er, There might be something in the faq on freenode's website
[02:31] <JayRoe_> revilodraw, have you checked your xorg.conf?
[02:32] <revilodraw> jayroe; thats what i need help with i believe... i am willing to send it to you for checking lol
[02:32] <arman> caca a beutiful girl
[02:32] <arman> acha
[02:32] <ustaadmin> so, i checked a lot now, there are no lookups as far as i can see. Thunderbird takes 10 sec. for 200 mails, evolution takes 200 seconds for 10 mails. I think there is something wrong with evolution, or the Mailfile is just too big right now. Thunderbird has an empty mailfile. the lag occures in fcntl, F_SETLK {type=F_WRLCK, whence=SEEK_SET, start=0, len=0}
[02:32] <arman> matrix
[02:33] <JayRoe_> revilodraw, how did this happen? Did you install display drivers?
[02:33] <ustaadmin> when starting firefox
[02:33] <GNAM>  KERNEL 2.6.22 OUT
[02:33] <revilodraw> jayroe; i installed feisty last night and havent been able to boot into it (i had edgy running before and am now using the edgy livecd)...
[02:33] <apichart> Please help on using dialup network on bluetooth.  I'm using ubuntu 7.04
[02:34] <askand> Hi can someone help me with a BCM4318 wlancard?
[02:34] <JayRoe_> try sending yoru xorg.conf then
[02:34] <VoX> revilodraw: what's the trouble with xorg?
[02:34] <JayRoe_> revilodraw ^
[02:34] <Pici> askand: Check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[02:35] <kbrooks> i need help.
[02:35] <ustaadmin> is there any reason, evolution has no option for exporting contacts and emails? (except vcards?=
[02:35] <revilodraw> Vox and Jayroe: how would u like me to send it? email, pm, post it to a filesharing site.. ???
[02:35] <VoX> revilodraw: start with what the problem is first
[02:36] <JayRoe_> kbrooks state your problem and if someone here can help you, they'll let you know
[02:36] <askand> Pici: that doesnt work for  BCM4318
[02:36] <kbrooks> askand, i t did for me
[02:37] <echosystm> if i were to run ubuntu without the gnome desktop component
[02:37] <echosystm> say
[02:37] <askand> kbrooks: what did you have to do?
[02:37] <echosystm> just nautilus and gnome-panel
[02:37] <revilodraw> Vox and Jay-Roe: I have an Inspiron 6400 with ATI radeon mobility vidoe card... all was working fine in edgy until i updated to feisty using the update manager... now when the computer starts, halfway through booting up i get a blue screen telling me there is a x problem , to check my xorg.conf file and that no screens are fcound
[02:37] <echosystm> how could i set a desktop background?
[02:37] <echosystm> any ideas anyone?
[02:37] <Romnous> get kubuntu
[02:37] <kbrooks> askand, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty#head-3597cb8247748a02442ebe741016665fe4a0f747
[02:38] <Romnous> @echosystm get kubuntu
[02:38] <Romnous> it comes with kde
[02:38] <kbrooks> askand, but it is easier now.
[02:38] <echosystm> um
[02:38] <echosystm> Romnous, i dont want kde
[02:38] <echosystm> :P
[02:38] <Olipro> hello
[02:38] <Romnous> you wanted to run ubuntu without gnome
[02:38] <echosystm> no
[02:38] <asc> echosystem: When you run nautilus, it starts a desktop session, which has a background. If you know how to get it to not start a desktop session, I'd like to know.
[02:38] <Olipro> I've got someone here who swears down his Ubuntu installed without asking for a root password
[02:38] <echosystm> i wanted to run ubuntu with beryl and gnome-panel
[02:38] <echosystm> no other gnome stuff
[02:38] <MarkCh> hi everyone. i need a tool that can convert smv files in ubuntu so i can save them to a handheld movie device, can anyone tell me how i can do this in ubuntu?
[02:38] <Olipro> now, I've nver used ubuntu
[02:38] <lucky-man> hi guys, every time i reboot im faces with a grub command line. i have tryed installing it but still no luck
[02:39] <askand> kbrooks:  how is it easier now? What do I have todo?
[02:39] <Olipro> does it set some default password for the roto account?
[02:39] <Olipro> *root
[02:39] <VoX> echosystm: thats like saying you want a car with one piston and three wheels
[02:39] <kbrooks> askand, just install bcm43xx-fwcutter, and then say yes when it asks you
[02:39] <echosystm> Olipro, root password is the same password as you use for your user account
[02:39] <revilodraw> Vox and Jay-Roe: I have an Inspiron 6400 with ATI radeon mobility vidoe card... all was working fine in edgy until i updated to feisty using the update manager... now when the computer starts, halfway through booting up i get a blue screen telling me there is a x problem , to check my xorg.conf file and that no screens are fcound
[02:39] <lucky-man> can you help
[02:39] <kbrooks> askand, but you'll need to plug into ethernet for this.
[02:39] <VoX> revilodraw: check that the ati drivers are installed
[02:40] <strval> can anyone give me a valid reason as to why anyone would want a thin client enviroment? from a cost perspective it's more expensive to do a thin client infrastructure rather than individual workstations
[02:40] <asc> VoX: Never used a minimal wm?
[02:40] <echosystm> howso VoX? all im doing is removing things i dont need
[02:40] <revilodraw> VoX; im in the edgy livecd... how do i do that?
[02:40] <echosystm> beryl has wm covered, all i need from there is a panel
[02:40] <echosystm> but it would be nice to have a desktop background too
[02:40] <VoX> echosystm: yes, but gnomepanel has requirements
[02:41] <JayRoe_> revilodraw, if possible, see if you can change your driver to vesa in the xorg.conf
[02:41] <asc> Just running nautilus really should do it.
[02:41] <MarkCh> hi everyone. i need a tool that can convert movies to smv files in ubuntu so i can save them to a handheld movie device, can anyone tell me how i can do this in ubuntu?
[02:41] <VoX> echosystm: it would be similar to running gnomepanel within kde
[02:41] <askand> kbrooks:  ok..but only install it..no downloading firmware and *.sys files?
[02:41] <revilodraw> jayroe; i had it on vesa ands this didnt help
[02:41] <Romnous> MarkCh, google for: "smv movie converter"
[02:42] <revilodraw> jayroe; its actually still on vesa
[02:42] <MarkCh> Romnous: i did try that. but the results are mostly for windows.
[02:42] <VoX> revilodraw: thats odd.. i dont have any experience with ati so im probably not much help with this
[02:42] <Romnous> then dl a free program which converts, and run it in wine :)
[02:43] <revilodraw> Vox: i dont think i am alone with this one
[02:43] <JayRoe_> revilodraw how many screens have you got in your xorg?
[02:43] <revilodraw> jaroe; i dont know can i send you my xorg.conf file pls?
[02:43] <ustaadmin> is it possible to import VCards (Addressbooks evolution,etc.), e-mails (mbox, file, directory, whatever) with the thunderbird packed into ubuntu? i only have the communicatior import option for emails and a txt-file for adressbooks. Are there more plugins?
[02:43] <askand>  kbrooks: is that correct?
[02:44] <JayRoe_> yes, but I don't know how. I haven't used linux for a year. But I know there's a way to post big quotes here, I just don't remember how
[02:44] <askand> kbrooks: I just have to plug it into ethernet, sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter, and reboot and it will eork?
[02:45] <Catoptromancy_> !gstreamer
[02:46] <Catoptromancy_> what was the plugin i needed for MP3s?
[02:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !mp3
[02:46] <lucky-man> im on live cd and have mounted my /DEV/SDA2. i need to fix grub how can i edit /home/ubuntu/Desktop/boot/grub
[02:46] <lucky-man> i cant seem to get the permission
[02:46] <hihi1> I was downloading a rather large file with kget when my internet died(damn you earthlink!) is there any way I can continue this download where I left off?
[02:48] <jedi79> hey guys i have feisty installed and am trying to mount my ntfs using the ntfs config tool and when i select it i dont see any of my partitons to be able to mount them any ideas
[02:48] <andylockran> jedi79: download automatix2 (www.getautomatix.com)
[02:48] <andylockran> they have a ntfs mounting option...
[02:48] <jedi79> ill give it a hot thanks
[02:48] <andylockran> no problems
[02:49] <cr1ss> hi, can someone help me with grub ? I had an issue
[02:50] <revilodraw> cr1ss; have u heard of the super brub disc? it helped me a lot
[02:50] <asc> Usually if you state the issue people are more likely to respond... I don't think there's a single mortal on the planet who really understands grub.
[02:51] <cr1ss> I tried super grub disc but didn't help me
[02:51] <cr1ss> well
[02:51] <cr1ss> I deleted by mistake a partition in which I had installed xp os
[02:51] <cr1ss> and tried to restore it with testdisk
[02:51] <cr1ss> and I did restore it
[02:51] <cr1ss> but
[02:52] <kbrooks> !enter | cr1ss
[02:52] <cr1ss> after that, grub didn't start
[02:52] <KnowledgEngineer> hello
[02:52] <KnowledgEngineer> someone use lisp and asdf-install??
[02:52] <revilodraw> I have a Dell Inspiron 6400 with ATI Radeon Mobility X1400 video card..Feisty is installed but wont make its debut boot because or an xorg problem that tells  it cant find a screen..here is my xorg.conf file http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KARS096Y
[02:52] <kbrooks> cr1ss, um, the enter key is not punctuation. please don't abuse it. it makes your message hard to read.
[02:52] <zipper> I was banned 10 days ago from #kubuntu for saying the f-word. A punishment is understandable, but permanent ban for cursing once?
[02:52] <KnowledgEngineer> !asdf-install
[02:52] <kbrooks> cr1ss, thank you.
[02:52] <cr1ss> ok sorry
[02:53] <lucky-man> thank for you help
[02:53] <KnowledgEngineer> someone use (lisp and asdf-install) or (lisp and cl-sdl-opengl)??
[02:53] <Vorbote> cr1ss, because you changed the disk partition table, dstroying grun setup in the process. STart from your installation CD and select the recuse option. You'll be able to restore GRUB from there.
[02:53] <Pici> zipper: #ubuntu-ops
[02:53] <zipper> Pici, cheers
[02:54] <KnowledgEngineer> fuck asdf-install
[02:54] <KnowledgEngineer> :(
[02:54] <kbrooks> !language | KnowledgEngineer
[02:54] <asc> bot made out of deaded
[02:54] <KnowledgEngineer> hops
[02:54] <kbrooks> KnowledgEngineer, please don't swear. this is a g rated, family channel.
[02:54] <cr1ss> what exactly is the recuse option Vorbote ?
[02:54] <KnowledgEngineer> i thinked to be on #lispcafe channel
[02:54] <chadeldridge> Is there a quick way to delete everything in the trash including items deleted as root?
[02:54] <revilodraw> I have a Dell Inspiron 6400 with ATI Radeon Mobility X1400 video card..Feisty is installed but wont make its debut boot because or an xorg problem that tells  it cant find a screen..here is my xorg.conf file http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KARS096Y
[02:55] <kbrooks> chadeldridge, sure. sudo rm -rf ~/.Trash/*
[02:55] <kbrooks> chadeldridge, GUI friendly:
[02:55] <kbrooks> chadeldridge, gksudo nautilus
[02:55] <avp[en-ru] > can anyone tell me how to change columns and lines number in text mode? My display is 1440x900, so 80x25 text is not good for me.
[02:55] <chadeldridge> revilodraw:   can you try to do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:55] <chadeldridge> thanks kbrooks
[02:56] <kbrooks> chadeldridge, and navigate to /home/<your user>/.Trash
[02:56] <revilodraw> chadelridge; i have done it heaps and its not changing anything
[02:56] <chadeldridge> ill just make a launcher to delete all from shell
[02:56] <chadeldridge> thanks
[02:56] <kbrooks> chadeldridge, then select all, and delete (there might be something else) :-)
[02:56] <kbrooks> chadeldridge, and np
[02:56] <Romnous> g2g
[02:56] <Romnous> cya all
[02:56] <kbrooks> chadeldridge, we're here for you :-)
[02:56] <revilodraw> cya romnous
[02:57] <JayRoe_> revilodraw, I'm fairly new to ubuntu, but sholdn't "Generic Video Card ATI Radeon x1400" be "ATI Radeon x1400"?
[02:57] <revilodraw> jayroe; changing it didnt help :(
[02:59] <Pici> revilodraw: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto for help installing the ati drivers.
[02:59] <jedi79> whoever just advised me to install automix2 to mount ntfs partitions thanks seems that i needed to clean shutdown windows before it would work
[02:59] <asc> avp[en-ru] : It's set in the file /boot/grub/*lst... you add an option to the kernel line. Not sure what it is though.
[02:59] <mwe> !automatix
[02:59] <JayRoe_> pici I don't think the drivers are the problem, as the driver is set to vesa
[03:00] <kbrooks> jedi79, yes.
[03:00] <revilodraw> pici; i cant even get into feisty to install drivers..im using the livecd
[03:00] <avp[en-ru] > asc: I tried already. I can't set precise number of columns/lines, just modes... :(
[03:00] <Mediahunter> anyone in here tell me how to play .avi files. none of my meida players will play them for some reason
[03:01] <asc> Mediahunter: Tried mplayer?
[03:01] <revilodraw> mediahunter; vlc player
[03:01] <Tinned_Tuna> Meidahunter: or VLC?
[03:01] <Mediahunter> yes
[03:01] <Mediahunter> it give me a error
[03:01] <kbrooks> some people...
[03:01] <chadeldridge> whats the error ?
[03:01] <Jack_Sparrow> chadeldridge: You want to find those files that wont delete?
[03:01] <avp[en-ru] > Mediahunter: beryl can be guilty.
[03:01] <chadeldridge> found em jack :-D
[03:01] <asc> avp[en-ru] : Same for me. Should be one better than the default though, at least.
[03:01] <Tha-Fox> could anyone help me with Wlan? I have Acer 5024 with Broadcom wlan-card. Now it works but I should get my connection secured with wpa_supplicant? I've installed it but I still can't choose anything else but WEP in network-manager
[03:01] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[03:01] <Mediahunter> Video codec 'XviD' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies
[03:01] <Tinned_Tuna> Mediahunter: you need the XviD codec/plugin
[03:02] <chadeldridge> Mediahunter:  xvid.org
[03:02] <Mediahunter> ok thank you
[03:02] <Pici> Mediahunter: http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats should get you set with codecs.
[03:02] <revilodraw> at least windows can find the damn screen it shows everything on....
[03:03] <Mediahunter> i am also trying to burn .avi files to dvd like nero does and makes it where it will playback on normal dvd player the files are on my windows partion and i can view them in linux but the burn software wont let me get to the dir how can i fix this
[03:03] <silvernode> Hey how come when i install kxdock I can't find it on my menu?
[03:03] <Pici> revilodraw: have you tried running `sudo dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg`?
[03:03] <grim76> JayRoe_: I had the same problem one sec and I will dig up the instructions to fix the problem.
[03:04] <JayRoe_> grim76 what problem?
[03:04] <revilodraw> pici; a million times with no helpful result
[03:04] <Pici> hm
[03:04] <grim76> X1400 and X not starting
[03:04] <chadeldridge> Mediahunter:  DeVeDee
[03:04] <chadeldridge> sorry DeVeDe
[03:04] <Mediahunter> i have that. ok i wll just have to fig it out then
[03:04] <Mediahunter> thanks to all
[03:04] <revilodraw> grim76!! me too!
[03:05] <JayRoe_> revilodraw, have you tried downloading a xorg.conf?
[03:05] <silvernode> When I install kxdocker I am unable to located in the main menu. How do I launch the program?
[03:05] <avp[en-ru] > how do you think, which IRC Client is the best? I tried Opera, Kopete, than XChat (now).
[03:05] <revilodraw> jayroe; umm i dint think so how od i do that
[03:06] <grim76> revilodraw: first things first....can you switch to a virtual console by using ctrl-alt-f1?
[03:06] <Jack_Sparrow> avp[en-ru] : dont forget Konversation
[03:06] <pro-rsoft> hi all
[03:06] <pro-rsoft> does anyone know if ntfs-3g driver is by default included in feisty fawn?
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> pro-rsoft: dont think so
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> easy to add
[03:07] <pro-rsoft> ok
[03:07] <pro-rsoft> sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g? or wont that work
[03:08] <avp[en-ru] > Jack_Sparow: I use gnome
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> me too
[03:08] <revilodraw> grim76; im using the livecd now..ctrl-alt-f1 gave me a black screen
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> avp[en-ru] : I use gnome and konversation..
[03:08] <grim76> ahhh ok
[03:08] <avp[en-ru] > ah, ok
[03:09] <avp[en-ru] > I'll try
[03:09] <Jack_Sparrow> avp[en-ru] : Also K3B... and others
[03:09] <grim76> revilodraw: Ok did your actual install of Ubuntu complete?
[03:09] <Mediahunter> ok this is weird i did what it says for the .avi issuse and the libdvdread3 but it says does not exist however democracy player will play the .avi file but mplayer will not
[03:09] <revilodraw> grim 76; yes
[03:09] <grim76> ok perfect
[03:10] <Jack_Sparrow> avp[en-ru] : Also check out kvirc
[03:10] <JayRoe_> What do I do when evtest doesn't show events for a certain device?
[03:11] <Tha-Fox> anyone who konows something about wpa_supplicant?
[03:11] <phpwner> how do i clear the line i am on?
[03:11] <Frogzoo> phpwner: ctrl u ?
[03:11] <revilodraw> phpwner; snort it
[03:11] <Mediahunter> ok vlc plays it also
[03:11] <Mediahunter> so just mplayer is messed up
[03:11] <Mediahunter> i will work on it later
[03:11] <Mediahunter> no biggy
[03:11] <Mediahunter> tanks everyone
[03:12] <checco> Ciao amici di #ubuntu!!!
[03:13] <KuDeTa> does anyone know a package (with a web gui) that makees it easy to stream files on your sever?
[03:14] <grim76> revilodraw: I am still looking for the instructions that I used to fix this problem.  I have them written down at home, but that does me no good seeing as  how I am at work right now.
[03:15] <Frogzoo> is there a way to get a version number for an compiled/installed kernel module??
[03:16] <Bothered> Frogzoo: uname -a
[03:16] <Frogzoo> Bothered: the module's version #, not the kernel
[03:16] <Bothered> Frogzoo: sorry, that's no what you want is it
[03:16] <spikerman> Bothered, can you hear me
[03:16] <Frogzoo> just doing 'strings' on the module.o doesn't really help
[03:17] <Bothered> spikerman: yes?
[03:17] <spikerman> spikerman,  fds
[03:17] <Malachi> My iPod nano on't mount
[03:17] <Malachi> won't mount*
[03:17] <grim76> revilodraw: ahhh found them. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/89853  there is an entry 2/3rds of the way down by thayerw
[03:17] <Thang> hallo, do you know what is texture_from_pixmap?
[03:18] <spikerman> Bothered, i'm testing my sound
[03:18] <Pici> Frogzoo: Try modinfo virus scanner ERROR <McAfee for Marshal> file <B46908f4b0000.000000000001.0001.mml> after 16 millisecs
[03:18] <Pici> er
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Frogzoo: I thought uname -a did show which kernel
[03:18] <Thang> when I installing Compiz, it says I had an error while checking texture_from_pixmap
[03:18] <Thang> :(
[03:18] <Pici> Frogzoo: try modifo
[03:18] <grim76> revilodraw: the entry starts with "I figured out a temporary workaround...."
[03:18] <Frogzoo> Pici: aye, thanks
[03:18] <Pici> Frogzoo: modinfo (arg fingers/keyboard)
[03:18] <grim76> revilodraw: It works for a full installation, and is a fix for the situation.  I have been running that way for quite a while.
[03:19] <checco> Ciao a tutti!!!
[03:19] <checco> enter to #Amore&Odio
[03:19] <dirtyhand> how can I make XCHAT auto nickserv identify me everytime I join FreeNode
[03:20] <Thang> anybody knows about texture_from_pixmap?
[03:20] <iarwain_> hiya, anyone know what is worse: kernel panic, or "can't access tty" ?
[03:20] <jatt> kernel panic
[03:21] <iarwain_> yay =(
[03:21] <JayRoe_> What do I do when evtest doesn't show events for a certain device?
[03:21] <iarwain_> you have a clue how to get the "can't access tty" error removed?
[03:21] <Thang> anybody knows about texture_from_pixmap?
[03:22] <KuDeTa> does anyone know a package (with a web gui) that makees it easy to stream files on your sever?
[03:24] <Frogzoo> iarwain_: perhaps it's this "GRUB was pointing here: root=/by-uid/[whole bunch of hex code]  rather than: root=/dev/hda1 just edited the line to show /dev/hda1"
[03:24] <Frogzoo> iarwain_: take a snoop around /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:24] <iarwain_> Frogzoo: gonna take a look, thx!
[03:26] <techbee> hello all   , is ubuntu installer supports lvm
[03:27] <Pici> techbee: Heres a guide for installing with LVM & the Alternate CD: http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html
[03:27] <techbee> pici:Thanks :)
[03:28] <satzzeichen> Hallo!
[03:28] <Wolfwalker> Where can I get Gimp advise? The Gimp channel is D.E.A.D.
[03:28] <satzzeichen> Can someone answer me a question about gaim? Iam new to linux.
[03:28] <savetheWorld> !ask
[03:29] <savetheWorld> Dont ask to ask, dont ask "can someone help me", Just ask your question. someone will chime in if they can help.  Until you ask the real question people will not know if they know enough to help you.
[03:29] <grim76> revilodraw: did you find the entry in the bug report that I was talking about?
[03:29] <techbee> Pici: i do not find any  stuff  on the site  , how to  install  ubuntu on  one lv :(
[03:29] <satzzeichen> I used Trillian the time i used windows, now i logged into my ICQ Account with Gaim and mostly 90% of my numbers are lost - what happened??
[03:30] <erUSUL> !lvm | techbee
[03:30] <dirtyhand> can I install regular Ubuntu 7.04 32bit on my amd64?
[03:30] <erUSUL> dirtyhand: sure
[03:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Is there a good tutorial on sharing files between two ubuntu installs on home pc's.. no real security needed between the two
[03:30] <dirtyhand> because, so far ubuntu 64 has given me more problems
[03:30] <Pici> techbee: I dont have any other information besides that link, sorry.
[03:31] <techbee> erUSUL:how can  i install  ubuntu , if installer does  not recognize my  lvm partition
[03:31] <ariel_> #ubuntu-es
[03:31] <satzzeichen> Noone have a clue of my problem? :-/
[03:32] <erUSUL> techbee: never instaled in lvm (i avoid it in desktop machines i do not see the point) the bot has a link to the wiki but it is lazy now
[03:32] <Jack_Sparrow> techbee: what happens if you leave unallocated space and let the installer try and do the partition?
[03:32] <Danux> satzzeichen i've used 32bit on my amd 64 with no problems iirc (in fact, my wireless appears to work better in 32bit)
[03:32] <PriceChild> techbee, use the alternate install cd
[03:32] <satzzeichen> ? o.O
[03:33] <satzzeichen> @Danux i have 32 bit :D
[03:33] <techbee> erUSUSL:the  problem is that i have linux box which have lvm partitions , so   there is no other for me :(
[03:33] <Danux> oh wrong tab lol... that was for dirtyhand
[03:34] <dirtyhand> yeah im about to re-install 32 bit
[03:34] <dirtyhand> amd64 has too many problems atm
[03:34] <Frederick> folks where does ubuntu places eclipse executable file?
[03:34] <satzzeichen> Ah lol i did find my lost buddys xD thanks...
[03:35] <Frogzoo> techbee: you want the alternate installer, which supports lvm
[03:35] <Bieleke> Frederick: There where  you unpacked it
[03:35] <Milux>  how i can install amarok 1.4.6 on ubuntu feisty? there are any reposities?
[03:35] <Pici> Frederick: ~/.eclipse ? maybe? (guessing)
[03:35] <Bieleke> Milux: ofcourse
[03:35] <Bieleke> Milux: apt-get install amarok should do the trick
[03:36] <Milux> Bieleke: yes, but install the 1.4.5 version
[03:36] <Frogzoo> !amarok | Milux
[03:36] <Pici> Milux: There are no official repositories for amarok 1.4.6 :/
[03:36] <techbee>  Frogzoo:Thanks :) ..........
[03:36] <Pici> Frederick: bot is dead :(
[03:37] <Milux> Pici: ok
[03:37] <Bothered> Milux: it's available in backports
[03:37] <Milux> what i do?
[03:37] <IndyGunFreak> !amarok
[03:38] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, i'm not seeing ubotu messages
[03:38] <Bothered> Milux: In software sources, updates tab, select backports
[03:38] <Milux> Bothered: ok
[03:39] <dromer> is there any linux software for pda's ?
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !nfs
[03:39] <erUSUL> dromer: for syncing with a pda or for the pda itself
[03:39] <erUSUL> ?
[03:40] <Milux> Bothered: now it's ok, i found the 1.4.6 version, thanks
[03:40] <dromer> erUSUL: wel both really :P
[03:40] <Bothered> Milux: No problem
[03:40] <dromer> erUSUL: I now have an Acer N10
[03:40] <dromer> erUSUL: I know there is a linux being developed for it
[03:40] <jjk> hola
[03:40] <dromer> erUSUL: atm it has Windows CE, so something to synchronise would be cool too
[03:41] <erUSUL> dromer: i know that both exist .... gpe and qtopia are envoirments for the pda itself...
[03:41] <Frogzoo> dromer: there's multisync for pocketpcs which is fairly ordinary
[03:41] <IndyGunFreak> erUSUL: do you speak any foriegn languages?
[03:41] <erUSUL> dromer: for syncing there are varius specific programs just use google a little ;) (evolution can sync contacts etc)
[03:42] <erUSUL> IndyGunFreak: i'm a native galician/spanish speaker and i can talk a little (and bad) english ;)
[03:42] <dirtyhand> Does anyone have any problems installing Aptana on Ubuntu 64 7.04?
[03:43] <phpwner> sudo kill 22930 isn't killing process id 22930. why not?
[03:43] <anandanbu> How do i install phpmyadmin in ubuntu 7.04
[03:43] <Pici> phpwner: try sudo kill -9 22930
[03:43] <erUSUL> phpwner: maybe you have to use the TERM signal (sudo kill -9 <pid> )
[03:43] <Wolfwalker> So where do I go to get Gimp help? The Gimp channel is dead.
[03:43] <phpwner> thanks
[03:44] <Pici> anandanbu: try sudo aptitude install phpmyadmin
[03:44] <dromer> erUSUL: ok thnx, I don't use evolution myself
[03:44] <erUSUL> dromer: no problem
[03:44] <Pici> Wolfwalker: Try irc.gimp.org (#gimp-users)
[03:45] <anandanbu> Pici: Thanks
[03:46] <Lorne_Kun> ahhhh
[03:51] <khermans> how can i do this with apt-get ? aptitude reinstall ~i~Afeisty
[03:52] <JayRoe> Can someone help me with evtest?
[03:52] <Pici> khermans: feisty??
[03:52] <Pici> khermans: What are you trying to do?
[03:53] <dirtyhand> so I had a random restart using ubuntu 7.04 amd64 and now I cant see my eclipse launcher in Applications...
[03:53] <khermans> Pici, reinstall all packages in the feisty archive
[03:53] <dromer> hey all, I'm having trouble installing vmware-player
[03:53] <khermans> dromer, dont!  use vmware-server
[03:53] <dromer> I get: invoke-rc.d: initscript vmware-player, action "start" failed.  dpkg: error processing vmware-player (--configure):
[03:53] <Pici> khermans: I'm not sure theres a way to actually go about doing that.
[03:53] <dromer> khermans: vmware-server isn't free right?
[03:54] <jhaig> khermans: vmware-server is free.
[03:54] <dromer> ok
[03:54] <erUSUL> !virtualbox | dromer
[03:54] <dromer> hmm, how do I install it best then? (I've tried to install vmware before and failed :#)
[03:54] <dromer> hmm
[03:55] <jhaig> dromer: It is fairly easy to install downloading it from the VMWare website.
[03:55] <khermans> dromer, and its in the commericla repos
[03:55] <dromer> jhaig: hmm, ok
[03:55] <jhaig> dromer: I've not tried it from the Ubuntu repositories, though.
[03:56] <dromer> well the problem I had before was configuring the virtual dhcp
[03:56] <junmin> hi, which is the channel for the desktop effect?? please
[03:56] <Some_Person> Finally I got rid of that annoying X-Chat nicklist-separator
[03:56] <CarmenSandiego> OK, I've got ubuntu all set up how I want, now I'm looking at security. I want to know where ubuntu stores 'usage track' type things. I noticed there was a 'recent documents' menu in Places - where is that stuff stored? Are there any other records kept by ubuntu like this?
[03:56] <dirtyhand> Guys, a random ubuntu restart made me lose my eclipse launcher from the applications menu... where can I find it?
[03:56] <dromer> khermans: could you guide me in installing it? or perhaps jhaig using your method?
[03:56] <Pici> dirtyhand: You might be able to re-add it using the alacarte menu editor.
[03:57] <khermans> !vmware server
[03:57] <junmin> dirtyhand, locate eclipse
[03:57] <erUSUL> CarmenSandiego: all  this things are kept in *your* home dir so no need to worry just make sure nobody access it
[03:57] <khermans> !vmware-server
[03:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vmware server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vmware-server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:57] <erUSUL> !virtualbox | dromer
[03:57] <ubotu> dromer: VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[03:57] <khermans> dromer, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-vmware-server-from-canonical-commercial-repository-in-ubuntu-feisty.html
[03:57] <jhaig> dromer: http://www.vmware.com/download/server/ <- Get it from here.  Get the *.tar.gz version to use with Ubuntu.
[03:58] <Some_Person> Can I put < and > outside of nicks in mirc?
[03:58] <Some_Person> i mean in xchat?
[03:58] <Lorne_Kun> yes, but its a long and involved process :P
[03:58] <Some_Person> how "long and involved"?
[03:59] <Lorne_Kun> you have to change the way channel/private messages are displayed
[03:59] <Lorne_Kun> theres a reason its an "advanced" setting
[03:59] <Some_Person> Why don't they just put a nice checkbox?
[04:00] <kenro> Did Deb-buntu change the name of their plugin speaker driver?
[04:01] <phpwner> how do i install python with dpkg?
[04:01] <erUSUL> phpwner: python is installed by default in ubuntu (more than one version btw)
[04:01] <junk430> can anyone help me with a crashed HD.. I copied it to another working drive but the file sys won't mount... what recovery tools are out there!
[04:01] <junk430> I can't find much on google
[04:01] <LazyAngel> hi! anyone knows about a list over supported webcams?
[04:02] <phpwner> in edgy eft?
[04:02] <Some_Person> Lorne_Kun: Are there instructions somewhere?
[04:02] <LazyAngel> i want to buy a webcam, but dont know whats supported
[04:02] <LazyAngel> feisty
[04:02] <kenro> test
[04:02] <kenro> !test
[04:02] <ubotu> failed
[04:02] <LazyAngel> !webcam
[04:02] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[04:03] <kenro> Did Deb-buntu change the name of their plugin speaker driver?
[04:03] <junk430> so how can you repare an unmountable ext3 filesystem.. I just need a couple files off it
[04:03] <Pici> !recovery | junk430
[04:03] <ubotu> junk430: To rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"
[04:03] <junk430> ubot.. I don't think that will fix an unmountable file system
[04:04] <kenro> If not, could someone remind me what the driver actually was?
[04:04] <Some_Person> test
[04:04] <junk430> the drive head crashed...
[04:04] <Layer-8> hey all! does someone know how to import kmail folder to evolution?
[04:05] <erUSUL> phpwner: yes
[04:05] <kenro> BREAKER ONE NINE FOR A RADIO CHECK!
[04:05] <erUSUL> !caps > kenro
[04:05] <junk430> ok... so other than boot the install cd ...  no one knows of any way to try and recover an unmountable ext3 filesystem?
[04:05] <erUSUL> Layer-8: File>Import
[04:06] <kenro> erUSUL, Then I must assume no one here uses external speakers.
[04:06] <craigbass1976> kenro, breaker one-nine.  Aint heard that in a while...
[04:07] <erUSUL> kenro: you must assume that you can not use capital letters in the channel. it is considered rude
[04:08] <kenro> erUSUL,  So is ignoring people.
[04:08] <kenro> I thought I was having network probloms.
[04:08] <erUSUL> kenro: there a 1086 person here, sorry if i missed you
[04:08] <craigbass1976> kenro, maybe there's nobody listening that know's the answer
[04:08] <Some_Person> test
[04:08] <erUSUL> !patience | kenro
[04:08] <ubotu> kenro: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:09] <craigbass1976> Some_Person, ticle?
[04:09] <Some_Person> ticle?
[04:09] <dromer> hmm:  A previous installation of a VMware product has been detected.  << I already ran  vmware-uninstall.pl  but it didn't work, apperantly I have to purge the entire install, how do I do this?
[04:09] <craigbass1976> Some_Person, jk  WHat's up
[04:09] <JayRoe> Can someone help me with evtest? It would save me the hazzle of having to install ubuntu all over again.
[04:09] <Some_Person> i'd like to put brackets around nicks in xchat
[04:10] <craigbass1976> Some_Person, you have to register a nick with freenode
[04:10] <Some_Person> done
[04:10] <Some_Person> i just forgot to identify
[04:10] <craigbass1976> And you still can't?
[04:10] <craigbass1976>   /msg nickserv identify <password>
[04:10] <Some_Person> i'm trying to put brackets (< and >) around nicks in xchat
[04:11] <Some_Person> i'm not having trouble identifying
[04:11] <Layer-8> erUSUL, do I need a special plugin to import kmail folders?
[04:11] <MCTom> hrrm, can someone please help me install the drivers for my USB wireless device?  I get an error message every time I try
[04:11] <Some_Person> for example, i see when i type: Some_Person whatever text i type
[04:11] <south01> what is the best solution to use xp in ubuntu
[04:11] <Some_Person> but i want to see: <Some_Person> whatever text i type
[04:11] <iarwain_> hiya, anyone know why i am getting a mount error (Mounting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed: no such file or directory) with this guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootToRAM ?
[04:12] <John-Jack> best solution for XP in Ubuntu is VisualBox
[04:12] <south01> thanx john
[04:12] <epod> VirtualBox
[04:12] <erUSUL> Layer-8: i never used kmail but most likely it stores mail in mbox format (pretty standar) and evo can import those
[04:12] <epod> not visualbox
[04:12] <John-Jack> that's it
[04:12] <John-Jack> oops
[04:12] <epod> np
[04:13] <[craigbass1976] > Some_Person, you want a name like mine?
[04:13] <John-Jack> was thinking of visualboy :S
[04:13] <south01> yeah i understand i was just trying to remember the name
[04:13] <Some_Person> craigbass1976: no
[04:13] <[craigbass1976] > Some_Person, I'm confused
[04:13] <epod> hmm
[04:13] <epod> I need to get my pocketpc to sync to ubuntu
[04:14] <Some_Person> craigbass1976: i am using xchat for irc. when someone is talking in a channel i see: nick whatever they typed
[04:14] <Some_Person> craigbass1976: i want to see :nick> whatever they typed
[04:14] <Layer-8> erUSUL, I dont have an option for importing mbox folders... :-/
[04:14] <John-Jack> mine's already like that
[04:14] <Some_Person> i mean: <nick> whatever they typed
[04:14] <MCTom> whenever I try to install the drivers for my WUSB54GS USB thing it says "couln't find SourceDisksFiles section - continuing anyway..." but then the driver isnt installed correctly, anyone know whats happening?
[04:14] <south01> can i have multiple harddisk using gnome partition editor
[04:14] <Some_Person> how the heck would i do that
[04:15] <[craigbass1976] > Some_Person, no idea. In mine, everybody's names are on the other side of a line seperating them from the text.
[04:15] <Some_Person> craigbass1976: i removed the line
[04:16] <iarwain_> no one knows how to get the "Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init" error away with this guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootToRAM ?
[04:16] <John-Jack> people who use vista with Classic Appearance set
[04:16] <John-Jack> don't need vista
[04:16] <John-Jack> just remember that
[04:16] <poningru_> hey guys quick question how does one restart the gnome panel?
[04:16] <erUSUL> Layer-8: i just checked and the option is there File>Import [check import one file]  then choose the file and bellow choose berkley mail (mbox)
[04:17] <John-Jack> poningru_: ctrl+shift+backspace is the best i can think of
[04:17] <Layer-8> erUSUL, but mbox is not only one file...
[04:17] <John-Jack> restarts X though
[04:17] <craigbass1976> John-Jack, What about all the "are you sure you want to do X?" messages.  Surely people can't live without those...
[04:17] <John-Jack> gnahaha
[04:17] <Layer-8> erUSUL, sorry...
[04:17] <John-Jack> UAC is stupid
[04:17] <poningru_> John-Jack, yeah I know... but kinda lame though
[04:17] <Layer-8> erUSUL, i talked about mdir...
[04:17] <John-Jack> except for networks
[04:17] <John-Jack> which vista is not good with, afaik
[04:18] <John-Jack> big paradox there
[04:18] <Pici> poningru_: killall gnome-panel (I believe it restarts itself)
[04:18] <Some_Person> dangit how do i add the < >
[04:18] <craigbass1976> Some_Person, did you remove the line on purpose?
[04:18] <Some_Person> yes
[04:18] <poningru_> Pici, trying
[04:19] <Some_Person> i removed the line to replace it with < and >
[04:19] <poningru_> Pici, that did it thanks
[04:19] <craigbass1976> Some_Person, No idea.  Is there an #xchat room?
[04:19] <Some_Person> yes, but theres no help in therew
[04:19] <poningru_> craigbass1976, yes
[04:19] <wbadger> Some_Person, maybe its in Settings -> Advanced -> Edit Events
[04:19] <erUSUL> Layer-8: the option you have for importing maildir format is to use some app that can convert from maildir to mbox (google) and then import the resulting mbox file
[04:19] <poningru_> Some_Person, what are you trying to do?
[04:20] <Some_Person> which event would it be though?
[04:20] <John-Jack> this is getting silly now
[04:20] <John-Jack> damn
[04:20] <wbadger> Some_Person, generic message?
[04:21] <Some_Person> that makes sense, its set to "$1$t$2" though
[04:21] <Some_Person> i dont know what that means
[04:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Is there a good tutorial on sharing files between two ubuntu installs on home pc's.. no real security needed between the two
[04:21] <rustalot> I'm getting a laptop from Dell (I'm not in the US, so I can't get the ubuntu ones), and I'm wondering: Is it better to get an Intel GMA 3100, or a nVidia geForce Go 8400?
[04:22] <SlimeyPete> Jack_Sparrow: try search the ubuntu wiki and forums for "samba"
[04:22] <erUSUL> Layer-8: http://yergler.net/Maildir_to_Mbox
[04:22] <MCTom> hrrm, can someone please help me install the drivers for my USB wireless device?  I get an error message every time I try
[04:22] <MCTom> hrrm, can someone please help me install the drivers for my USB wireless device?  I get an error message every time I try
[04:22] <iarwain_> Jack_Sparrow: i would advise NFS instead of Samba
[04:22] <Jack_Sparrow> SlimeyPete: THought that was for sharing with windows more than just linux
[04:22] <MCTom> lol, wrong message twice, sorry :P
[04:22] <murak> 8400 if you whant better performance, but I think GMA 3100 is mote than enough for compiz etc
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Agreed looking for nfs
[04:23] <MCTom> whenever I try to install the drivers for my WUSB54GS USB thing it says "couln't find SourceDisksFiles section - continuing anyway..." but then the driver isnt installed correctly, anyone know whats happening?
[04:23] <SlimeyPete> Jack_Sparrow: it's applicable in both situations.
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> SlimeyPete: WOuld rather avoid anything that can include windows
[04:23] <Frederick> how do I install java 6 in ubuntu?
[04:23] <wbadger> Some_Person, I believe we can find out using the "Test All"
[04:24] <SlimeyPete> Frederick: use synaptic. Enable the universe repository, update your list and then search for sun-java.
[04:24] <SlimeyPete> there's a java 6 package.
[04:25] <south01> can i have multiple harddisk using gnome partition editor
[04:25] <murak> So anyway, am I suppose to post questions here?
[04:25] <Pici> !ask | murak
[04:25] <ubotu> murak: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:25] <murak> hehe, ok.
[04:26] <murak> Im having trouble extracting a .7z file. When trying to extract with Archive Manager it says "Archive type not supported"
[04:26] <Jack_Sparrow> murak: look up 7 zip
[04:26] <murak> google it?
[04:26] <Timon> How can I create a NTFS partition for my slave drive in Gnome? I've tried with my Windows XP disc but it kept saying that it wasn't a Windows compatible partition so it wouldn't even let me CHOOSE which one I wanted. I just want to install Windows XP onto my slave drive, that's all. It's a 40GB drive by the way.
[04:26] <phpwner> what is peerguardian alternative for ubuntu?
[04:27] <Jack_Sparrow> repos p7zip
[04:27] <ShackJack> Quick semi-ubuntu question  - anyone know of a package in the repos that can recover (undelete) files from a USB drive (prolly FAT formatted)?
[04:27] <Some_Person> nevermind, i got it, i needed to change both "Channel Message" and "Your Message"
[04:27] <murak> thank you
[04:27] <techbee> !anyone
[04:27] <kbrooks> ok, everyone here. i want something fixed, and i want to fix this something with a experienced programmer. anyone up for it?
[04:27] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:27] <wbadger> Some_Person, nice
[04:27] <phaidros7> Timon: if you don't like fdisk, you may try cfdisk or gparted
[04:28] <Timon> Gparted is the same thing as Gnome Partition Editor?
[04:28] <Timon> Since that's what I have.
[04:28] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[04:28] <Timon> But I don't get an option to make a NTFS thing.
[04:28] <kenro_> HaHaHa! My kubuntu is rotting.
[04:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Timon: yes
[04:28] <dylle> hi
[04:28] <ShackJack> techbee: Umm.. that was the question ;)
[04:28] <Timon> Well how do I make an NTFS partition with fdisk or cfdisk?
[04:28] <Timon> And how do i get it?
[04:28] <MattJ> murak, I just found this too: http://www.howtoadvice.com/7zipHelper/ :)
[04:29] <dylle> if you guys don't mind I'll be asking for some support later on :)
[04:29] <kenro_> Anyone know how I might track gutsy rather than unstable?
[04:29] <Jabapyth> is there some linux equivalent to windows' chkdsk?
[04:29] <kbrooks> installing third party drivers is hard in Ubuntu. You have to download a module, ./configure, make && sudo checkinstall.
[04:29] <phaidros7> Timon: set the partition type to ntfs. then you should be able to format the partition with the windows installer
[04:30] <Timon> It doesn't let me.
[04:30] <Armymen> i got a fiew question about unbutu, my first one, i want to install a theme for aMSN, i need to copy some files to the theme skin folder but it tell me i can because im not root, or somebody like that
[04:30] <Timon> It's.. you know when in a dropdown menu something's grey where you can't click on it? YEah, that's what it is.
[04:30] <kbrooks> Shouldn't it be made simpler, as in I download a "driver package", open it, and it leads me through a program wizard to install it on the computer?
[04:30] <TheCreationist> Could someone tell me how to fix a problem with apt-get?  Suddenly this morning, apt-get (and dpkg) crash every single time I try to run them.  Different errors most times, but the most recent is simply a vague "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"   I was trying to run apt-get install -f to fix some dependency issues that Update Manager said I had (which is strange in itself because I didn't do anything out of the ordinary.
[04:31] <kenro_> Armymen,  You need to log in as root?
[04:31] <humbolto> how to correctly install java and set the JAVA_HOME environment variable?
[04:31] <Timon> can you explain to me step by step to make an unpartitioned space in gparted into ntfs?
 i dont know why but i can log as a root
[04:32] <erUSUL> !java | humbolto
[04:32] <ubotu> humbolto: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[04:32] <erUSUL> !root | Armymen
[04:32] <ubotu> Armymen: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[04:33] <dylle> Does anyone here do help via PM?
[04:33] <kenro_> SU no longer works, it's now SUDO?
[04:33] <MCTom> or of coruse you could just change the root password?
[04:33] <Timon> can someone please explain to me step by step to making an ntfs partition in gparted?
[04:33] <erUSUL> dylle: it is allways better to ask the channel
[04:33] <dylle> well, at the moment, bit confusing considering the ammount of questions going around :=
[04:34] <Chiel> kenro: use: sudo -s
[04:34] <MCTom> unless no-one knows which seems to be my problem :(
[04:34] <dylle> :)*
[04:34] <Chiel> it's almost the same :)
[04:34] <erUSUL> MCTom: do not advice that. it is not recomended
[04:34] <erUSUL> MCTom: if noone knows nobody will help you in a pm too
[04:34] <TheCreationist> Could someone tell me how to fix a problem with apt-get?  Suddenly this morning, apt-get (and dpkg) crash every single time I try to run them.  Different errors most times, but the most recent is simply a vague "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"   I was trying to run apt-get install -f to fix some dependency issues that Update Manager said I had (which is strange in itself because I didn't do anything out of the ordinary.
[04:34] <Armymen> well how can i copy a file and be ass a root in a graphique environment ?
[04:34] <TheCreationist> Synaptic, adept, apt-get, and dpkg are all crashing immediately now.
[04:34] <erUSUL> Armymen: 'gksu nautilus'
[04:35] <MCTom> erUSUL: yeah it came out a bit wrong :)
[04:35] <nixlover> erUSUL: i have a question
[04:35] <Armymen> kk tanks
[04:35] <Armymen> i will try
[04:35] <Ryaren> HI
[04:35] <Timon> can someone please explain to me step by step to making an ntfs partition in gparted?
[04:35] <kenro_> Armymen, gksu or kdesu
[04:35] <Ryaren> sby can help me pls? Which log file contains the infos about restart and shutdown process?? Because my system always freezes when I wnat to restart or shutdown my computer...
[04:35] <TheCreationist> kenro_: I believe, for whever reason, that it's gksudo or kdesu.
[04:35] <TheCreationist> kenro_: I don't think there is a gksu.
[04:35] <TheCreationist> ...but I was wrong lol
[04:36] <Pici> Armymen: nautilus-gksu might help
[04:36] <kenro_> TheCreationist,  They removed gksu?
[04:36] <yannos> paris.fr.epiknet.org/6667
[04:36] <TheCreationist> Well, apparently no help for this issue for me.... which is critical.  I can't install updates, can't install/remove software... can't using Synaptic.  And I did absolutely nothing to cause this... it happened overnight.  Woke up to a crashed computer and now it'
[04:37] <TheCreationist> it's screwed completely.
[04:37] <TheCreationist> I'll ask later.
[04:37] <dylle> Do broadcomm wireless lan cards still have probs on Ubuntu 7.04
[04:37] <murak> Found help with 7zip on this webpage: http://www.howtoadvice.com/Ubuntu7zip
[04:37] <skyion> hmmm my firefox keeps on dying
[04:37] <Sbucat_> dylle: which?
[04:37] <aantn> is there a way to use kde themes under gnome?
[04:37] <erUSUL> TheCreationist: i think that maybe your dpkg database got corrupted somehow. dunno if there's something you can do about it search in google
[04:38] <kenro_> TheCreationist,  What exactly is wrong?
[04:38] <erUSUL> aantn: no afaik
[04:38] <kduboi1> aantn: i dont know, but its doubtful
[04:38] <dylle> Sbucat_: broadcomm 802.11g
[04:38] <ShackJack> Is there a proggie in the repos that allows recovery of deleted files form USB sticks/mem cards, etc (usually FAT/32 formatted)?
[04:38] <Sbucat_> dylle: ...no man this mean nothing the name for example bcm4306
[04:38] <erUSUL> !info testdisk | ShackJack
[04:38] <ubotu> shackjack: testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.5-1build1 (feisty), package size 550 kB, installed size 1784 kB
[04:39] <Sbucat_> dylle: lspci |grep Video
[04:39] <Sbucat_> dylle: soory
[04:39] <ShackJack> erUSUL: Ah thanks - it just turned up when I searched fat32 in synaptic - this isn't a GUI tool, I take it ;)
[04:39] <Sbucat_> dylle: lspci and find out brodacom
[04:39] <dylle> currently not using ubuntu, going to start installing soon..., but one sec I can try and check the chipset via windows
[04:40] <Ryaren> When TwinView is enabled I can't restart or shutdown my X and my computer too... I don't know why and nothin logging this...
[04:40] <Sbucat_> dylle: the way is this : terminal : lspci and find out brodacom near will be bcm43xx or similar
[04:40] <kduboi1> Ryaren: i have trouble with twinview and that too.... (8500 gt)
[04:41] <Sbucat_> dylle: i think isnt easy to find out from windoz
[04:41] <yunhual> hi, i can get the file line info with nm -l xx.o which make with debug symbols, but when i make kernel with debug info, why i can't use nm -l vmlinux to get line info
[04:41] <dylle> Sbucat_: BCM43XV
[04:41] <aantn> !superkaramba
[04:41] <Ryaren> kduboi1: Same problem?
[04:41] <ubotu> superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[04:41] <skyion> !firefox
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[04:42] <kduboi1> Ryaren: mine isnt able to come out of suspend or hibernate, and it freezes sometimes upon login, but only if i'm using twinview
[04:42] <kenro_> Does anyone here have trouble enabling external speakers, or getting their mousepad to stop clicking?
[04:42] <gangsterlicious> anyone got openoffice issues under 64-bit? kept crashing on startup. looked up some stuff on forum stating disabling cups but still no hope. any thoughts?
[04:42] <yunhual> hi, i can get the file line info with nm -l xx.o which make with debug symbols, but when i make kernel with debug info, why i can't use nm -l vmlinux to get line info
[04:42] <kenro_> I'm using unstable kubuntu
[04:43] <murak> Were do I change "Shared Memory" for my integrated vga card?
[04:43] <Sbucat_> dylle: are yoi sure i have found few topic
[04:43] <SlimeyPete> murak: in your BIOS, usually
[04:43] <gangsterlicious> murak: via your BIOS
[04:43] <Sbucat_> dylle: only this http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-150345.html
[04:43] <kenro_> gangsterlicious,  Yet another reason not to use oo.
[04:44] <dylle> Sbucat_: Well I ran unbuntu about 6 months ago, and my card had driver problems
[04:44] <dylle> ubuntu had the drivers, just refused to implement them
[04:44] <gangsterlicious> kenro_: i need to have word and xls support. what other ms office compatible app do you recommend?
[04:44] <Sbucat_> dylle: i suggest to use live cd and so you have not to install ubuntu then applications----accessories---terminal : lspci and find out the right chip number
[04:44] <murak> Ok, thanks for your answears. Ive been to the BIOS, its an asus so I can do nothing =P
[04:45] <dylle> will, do
[04:45] <kenro_> gangsterlicious, What desktop?
[04:45] <gangsterlicious> pekwm
[04:45] <humbolto> erUSUL: the java document you sent me to does not state anything about how to permanantly and correctly (the debian/ubuntu way) set the environmental variable JAVA_HOME.
[04:45] <Sbucat_> dylle: many wireless card have this problem i have a brodacom too bcm4306 and it works! with ndiswrapper
[04:45] <gangsterlicious> (i do have standard ubuntu installed so gnome is available. but i use pekwm primary)
[04:45] <numus> anyone use skype and know if it will work with wine?
[04:46] <gangsterlicious> gtk style is pretty much what i need
[04:46] <jatt> numus: you don't need wine for skype
[04:46] <kenro_> gangsterlicious,  Minimalist... tk* would prolly be useless for full MS compats...
[04:46] <numus> jatt: skype on linux doesn't have webcam support
 dylle: many wireless card have this problem i have a brodacom too bcm4306 and it works! with ndiswrapper <--- Well hopefully I can get it working then :)
[04:46] <humbolto> erUSUL: what is the debian way to set this env permanently (and most desirably for all users)?
[04:47] <murak> I use Compiz Fusion and when I play ePSXe or ScummVM the window is slightly transparent, Where do I change the "transparacy" of the windows?
[04:47] <sddaDFWRGY> could someone help me?
[04:47] <sddaDFWRGY> how to open ports in ubuntu?
[04:47] <redt0nia> hihi
[04:47] <kenro_> gangsterlicious,  Okee. there are gtk office apps you can use. just won't be integrated like Office.
[04:48] <sddaDFWRGY> really
[04:48] <Elko> sddaDFWRGY: firestarter?
[04:48] <gangsterlicious> kenro_: is there a XLS app like abiword?
[04:48] <SlimeyPete> sddaDFWRGY:  think they're all open by default? but firestarter will let you do things like that
[04:48] <sddaDFWRGY> mmmm by command...
[04:48] <sddaDFWRGY> ?
[04:49] <sddaDFWRGY> i explain my problem
[04:49] <kenro_> gangsterlicious, You don't need OO to use abiWord. It stands alone.
[04:49] <numus> jatt: Unless ther eis a new version that support webcam
[04:49] <sddaDFWRGY> i want my friend can access my apache by port 81
[04:50] <sddaDFWRGY> but he can't
[04:50] <murak> How do I set "Transparacy of windows" in Compiz?
[04:50] <Elko> sddaDFWRGY: is it forwarded to your httpd on your router?
[04:50] <oni> ad
[04:50] <Pici> sddaDFWRGY: Make sure tha apache is listening on port 81 and that your router is correctly forwarding the port to your computer.
[04:50] <sddaDFWRGY> yes... apache listen 81
[04:51] <mattwalston> How can I set my locale?  When installing packages I get perl complaining about an unset lang and a few other locale related things
[04:51] <SlimeyPete> sddaDFWRGY: no ports are blocked by ubuntu. Make sure your router is not blocking it. Also, make sure apache is running on port 81.
[04:51] <numus> i think wine froze on ym screen
[04:51] <sddaDFWRGY> when i do nmap 192.168.1.7
[04:51] <kenro_> And can someone please help me with my external speaker question??
[04:51] <redt0nia> eee im on Xp
[04:51] <SlimeyPete> sddaDFWRGY: sounds like your router is misconfigured then
[04:51] <sddaDFWRGY> it don't say nothing on 81
[04:51] <pachu> hi
[04:51] <SlimeyPete> oh
[04:51] <oni> hi is it possible that sshd is not in the main source since 7.04?
[04:51] <redt0nia> i have 2 linux machines
[04:52] <SlimeyPete> sddaDFWRGY: you have restarted apache, yes?
[04:52] <sddaDFWRGY> yes
[04:52] <SlimeyPete> sddaDFWRGY: do a "sudo iptables -L"
[04:52] <sddaDFWRGY> restarted
[04:52] <numus> is there a way to shut down running programs in ubuntu
[04:52] <SlimeyPete> that will show you which ports are blocked, if any
[04:52] <oni> numus: killall
[04:52] <sddaDFWRGY> Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[04:52] <sddaDFWRGY> target     prot opt source               destination
[04:52] <sddaDFWRGY> Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
[04:52] <sddaDFWRGY> target     prot opt source               destination
[04:52] <sddaDFWRGY> Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[04:52] <sddaDFWRGY> target     prot opt source               destination
[04:52] <numus> that it?
[04:52] <SlimeyPete> numus: go to a terminal and use killall. eg "killall evolution"
[04:52] <SlimeyPete> sddaDFWRGY: so no ports are being blocked.
[04:53] <numus> didn't work.. oh well going to restart
[04:53] <sddaDFWRGY> so it's a problem of my roter...
[04:53] <sddaDFWRGY> ?
[04:53] <oni> nuxil: xkill
[04:53] <sddaDFWRGY> router
[04:53] <Elko> sddaDFWRGY: does 'netstat -vatnp | grep apa' show apache is listening (just to be sure)?
[04:53] <SlimeyPete> sddaDFWRGY: no, sorry... I mislead you. If you can not reach your apache from your own network then it is not your router which has the problem.
[04:53] <murak> How do I change the"Opacity level" of my windows in compiz?
[04:54] <kenro_> Wait... They've put kde/qt-4 in gutsy pre-release?
[04:54] <mike3_> murak, beryl-manager
[04:54] <oni> hi is it possible that sshd is not in the main source since 7.04?
[04:54] <sddaDFWRGY> when i write "localhost:81" i reach my apache
[04:54] <sddaDFWRGY> if i write 192.168.1.6 not!
[04:55] <numus> froze wine again.. damn
[04:55] <numus> how do i uninstall something
[04:55] <sddaDFWRGY> tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:80              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN     13852/apache2
[04:55] <sddaDFWRGY> tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:81            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN     9845/apache
[04:55] <sddaDFWRGY> tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:443             0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN     5910/apache-ssl
[04:55] <oni> sddaDFWRGY: i think apache is not listenin on your external ip
[04:55] <jatt> sudo apt-get --purge remove something
[04:55] <SlimeyPete> numus: use synaptic or "add/remove programs"
[04:55] <SlimeyPete> yeah...or that
[04:55] <Elko> sddaDFWRGY: tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:80
[04:55] <numus> it is a program i installed in wine
[04:55] <oni> is it possible that sshd is not in the main source since 7.04?
[04:55] <kenro_> numus You use gutsy?
[04:56] <Elko> it's listening on eth0 on port 80 instead of 81
[04:56] <SlimeyPete> numus: oh. run the program's uninstall EXE in Wine.
[04:56] <Elko> sddaDFWRGY: try 192.168.x.x:80
[04:56] <numus> kenro_ no
[04:56] <Fiercirous> hi all .. i would like to ask if anyone knows how to connect a WM5 device (Dopod D810) to Ubuntu 7.04? Tried the forum but have not been on much luck to find the exact solution.
[04:56] <sddaDFWRGY> i have apache on 81 and apache2 on 80
[04:56] <numus> anyone ever tried wine? it runs portal.. but it freezes when i click on anything
[04:56] <Elko> sddaDFWRGY: oh, ah, misread
[04:56] <numus> if only i could see a debug screen
[04:57] <numus> there doesn't appear to be an uninstall for this program
[04:57] <kenro_> numus Nev mine I thought you meant 'froze' in a different sense.
[04:57] <sddaDFWRGY> what could i do?
[04:57] <oni> numus: wine is not a very stable program
[04:57] <numus> oni: damn..
[04:57] <SlimeyPete> numus: then just deleted the directory. Won't hurt. Probably.
[04:57] <mattwalston> Any ideas? Error: 'en_us.utf-8' is not a supported language or locale
[04:57] <numus> k
[04:58] <kenro_> oni, And why not? They've been working on it for 12 years.
[04:58] <numus> guess i will just have to run this in windows then...
[04:58] <numus> one more reason i have to continue to dualboot
[04:58] <jatt> numus: you could try to setup a vmware virtual machine for windows and install skype there it should recognize your devices (like the webcam)
[04:58] <oni> numus: you can try tu install wine-tool
[04:58] <oni> s
[04:58] <jatt> but installing windows on vmware is not an easy task :(
[04:58] <numus> what does wine-tools do
[04:58] <numus> naa i have a dual boot
[04:58] <numus> when i get my laptop back then i have no need for skype on my server
[04:59] <imske> Hi all, I'm having Sound Card Problems with my Realtek ALC880 Soundcard and a Fresh Installation of Ubuntu 7.04. Apparently their are a few problems with this sound card, does anyone have any information?
[04:59] <oni> kenro_: because it simulates windows very well ;-)
[04:59] <Elko> sddaDFWRGY: I still say there is no apache listening on eth0 (0.0.0.0) on port 81, there is one on eth0:80 and one on localhost:81
[04:59] <oni> is it possible that sshd is not in the main source since 7.04?
[04:59] <variant> anyone know how to export or otherwise save gconf settings to a file for reproduction on another system?
[04:59] <oni> is it possible that sshd is not in the main source since 7.04?
[04:59] <oni> is it possible that sshd is not in the main source since 7.04?
[04:59] <variant> oni: stop repeating your self
[04:59] <numus> brb gota reboot AGAIN
[04:59] <variant> oni: and no it isn't
[04:59] <Fiercirous> hi all .. i would like to ask if anyone knows how to connect a WM5 device (Dopod D810) to Ubuntu 7.04? Tried the forum but have not been on much luck to find the exact solution.
[04:59] <oni> thanks variant
[05:00] <variant> Fiercirous: wm5?
[05:01] <mike3_> Man I'm tierd.. Is it time to go home yet???? :)
[05:01] <Fiercirous> my 2nd question is about using ATI driver for Ubuntu 7.04, which seems to freeze my startup at certain times at boot up when after a successful login into GNOME. I am using the 690G chipset from AMD for built-in graphics chipset X1250
[05:01] <Fiercirous> variant - wm5 = windows mobile 5
[05:01] <numus> wm5 is annoying
[05:01] <logreeval> hello, when i start my computer, it is normal desktop but then if i click anything "the panel" shows up.....is that because it is loading the startup programs?
[05:01] <numus> that i can't sync it to linux
[05:01] <variant> Fiercirous: did you follow the ati install howto? or did you use the restricted driver manager to install the drivers?
[05:02] <murak> mike3_ I tried to make a private discussion, but you dont seem to be able to see my messages?
[05:02] <dinochopins> OOT: any suggestion for a great hosting service for Linux/Apache/PHP ?
[05:02] <variant> !offtopic | dinochopins
[05:02] <ubotu> dinochopins: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:02] <VSpike> Fiercirous: as far as I know, there is no way
[05:03] <VSpike> Fiercirous: at least, you can connect and transfer files but you can't sync
[05:03] <Fiercirous> variant, i followed the steps @ http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide     n have got the driver from AMD/ATI's site
[05:03] <variant> Fiercirous: http://www.scheduleworld.com/tg/cal/day.jsp
[05:03] <Elko> sddaDFWRGY: can you agree with that?
[05:03] <variant> Fiercirous: don't follow unnoficial guides
[05:03] <variant> !ati | Fiercirous
[05:03] <ubotu> Fiercirous: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:04] <sddaDFWRGY> yes
[05:04] <sddaDFWRGY> but how can i open?
[05:04] <logreeval> wait, is that bar thing that had the things showing loading the panel?
[05:04] <sddaDFWRGY> eth0:81
[05:04] <variant> Fiercirous: in feisty just go to administration > restricted driver manager, it will install and set up the driver for you
[05:04] <Fiercirous> VSpike, how may i at least achieve the effect of transferring the files? When i connect my wm5 device, i does not even recognise the media card reader (built-in), but if i plug in another USB multi card reader, it works fine.
[05:04] <Elko> sddaDFWRGY: edit the appropriate apache configuration file
[05:05] <sddaDFWRGY> mmmm so it's an apache problem
[05:05] <sddaDFWRGY> i thought router problem
[05:05] <VSpike> variant: that link looks seriously interesting
[05:05] <Fiercirous> variant, thanks for the clue.. will check that out .. now i shall hang on for Vspike
[05:06] <variant> Fiercirous: for windows mobile 5 support you will need to compile a few programs and be able to use svn to get the source, see this link: http://www.mobilegadgetnews.com/index.php?showtopic=12829
[05:06] <milestone> hi all, i am not able to compile the drbd0.7 module via module-assistant. Ihave already changed /bin/sh to point to bash. But still no luck. Here is the error i am getting http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/12556/
[05:06] <sddaDFWRGY> thx
[05:06] <milestone> any help is highly appreciated
[05:06] <Elko> sddaDFWRGY: you should first be able to access the httpd locally on 192.168.x.x:81, then check the outside, if not working, look at the router config, good luck.
[05:06] <sddaDFWRGY> i'm going to caming back in a while
[05:07] <milestone> any help is highly appreciated
[05:07] <murak> here is a printscreen http://img365.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot05ct4.png
[05:07] <skarges> hello all
[05:08] <murak> as u can see the window is transparent
[05:08] <skarges> any one have try to install nvidia driver on ubuntu 64
[05:08] <chrislewis> good day - is there a place where i can check compat info w/ ubuntu on specific serviers?
[05:08] <VSpike> Fiercirous: tbh, the device I tried it with was a PPC2003SE device.  I rememebr it took a lot of fiddling about to get it working, and once I did, it wouldn't do what I wanted (i.e. sync) so I never repeated the exercise.  Hence, I can't even remember exactly how I did it.  Suggest you follow variants second link which looks helpful.
[05:08] <chrislewis> namely HP ProLiant ML115
[05:08] <variant> milestone: that error doesn't really say what went wrong. You should try reading the site where you got it to see about any special circumstances that come into play when you compile it. also try newer/older versions of the software
[05:08] <skarges> i have a crash off my xorg all time
[05:08] <milestone> variant: i am using module-assistant a-i drbd0.7-module
[05:09] <variant> chrislewis: most hp stuff works very well with free software
[05:09] <milestone> variant: it is all ubuntu packages i am using...
[05:09] <variant> milestone: I don't know anything specific about it
[05:09] <variant> milestone: ok
[05:10] <Fiercirous> variant, the offical ati guide u shared is something i never come by.. thanks!
[05:10] <Fiercirous> VSpike, will do. thanks!
[05:10] <variant> Fiercirous: allways use official docuemtation _first_
[05:10] <chrislewis> variant: thanks - confirmation of a specific model would be comforting tho
[05:10] <variant> chrislewis: I don't know specifically, if you allready have the server just try it with a live ce
[05:11] <variant> chrislewis: cd*
[05:11] <chrislewis> variant: thats the issue - im shopping for one right now and i need dapper to run on it
[05:12] <variant> chrislewis: i don't know about dapper, feisty should be ok but obviously you might not want to run that
[05:13] <chrislewis> variant: my only reason for dapper is i have to run a php 5 app that uses mysql 4 (not 5). dapper has php5 + mysql4 packages, but i dont know that fiesty does
[05:14] <EXP__> how i can write zdsk file to floppy, when i have usb floppy drive?
[05:15] <variant> chrislewis: personally i wouldn't use ubuntu on a server (unless i were a total unix novice, then i might)
[05:15] <ryanakca> any idea why `mogrify -resize 28% *.jpg
[05:16] <chrislewis> variant: a novice may have to access this box
[05:16] <skarges> hell anyone can help, i have a crash off xorg when i install nvidia drivers, if i install glx or native driver with envy on ubuntu 64
[05:16] <ryanakca> any idea why `mogrify -resize 28% *.jpg` doesn't resize all the '.jpg' in the directory?
[05:16] <mhz`-> why wouldn't you use ubuntu on a server?
[05:16] <variant> skarges: don't use envy, it's more effort than it's worth
[05:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !envy
[05:17] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[05:17] <variant> mhz`-: it's not my favorite distro
[05:17] <skarges> yes but i have same problem with glx driver
[05:17] <armymen> i use xchat and i dont see the nicklist , i see that http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/3250/capturevj5.png so what can i do ? to have the nicklist at the right
[05:17] <variant> skarges: see that text from ubotu ?
[05:17] <variant> armymen: are you using gnome-xchat or just xchat?
[05:17] <armymen>  gnome-xchat
[05:17] <variant> armymen: thats why
[05:18] <skarges> i test all thing in ubuntu web site i can't find why it don't work
[05:18] <variant> armymen: use xchat instead
[05:18] <enry_> it's true that if i buy a dual core i have to recompile the kernel and all standard application (like gimp or cinnerella) use oly one core and i have to compile them if i whant to use my dual core processor??
[05:18] <skarges> if in xorg.conf i replace nvidia by nv it start but i lost opengl support
[05:18] <Jack_Sparrow> skarges: Did you read what we think of the ENVY script and what it does to your system...
[05:18] <armymen> well i have the sameprobleme with the other one whant a screen shot ??
[05:18] <variant> skarges: because you used envy, we in here can't be sure of what is/has happend to your system and are not able to support you, you might get someone to help thoughj
[05:18] <SlimeyPete> enry_: do you have feisty?
[05:18] <variant> enry_: no
[05:18] <enry_> SlimeyPete,  yes
[05:18] <neverblue> skarface, did you install the Nvidia drivers properly?
[05:19] <SlimeyPete> enry_: then you dn'tneed to recompile anything
[05:19] <neverblue> ops, that was for skarges
[05:19] <SlimeyPete> enry_: everything will just work. no changes necessary.
[05:19] <kamiro87> Hello, Does anyone know how to get a fully translated polish install of linux? I installed ubuntu and xubuntu and only about some of the stuff like the gnome menu was translated properly. The rest of the interface was mostly in english including openoffice. Does anyone know how to get it more localised.
[05:19] <kamiro87> ubuntu*
[05:19] <skarges> i have use envy because i have this problem at the beginning
[05:19] <IceLink> is there any possibility to get rosegarden 1.5 pre-compiled?
[05:19] <enry_> SlimeyPete,  all tha application that i install use all the cores?
[05:19] <neverblue> skarges, envy is your problem
[05:20] <armymen> http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/7350/capture1yz4.png that is what i got with the normal Xchat no nicklist
[05:20] <variant> !polish | kamiro87
[05:20] <enry_> SlimeyPete,  and if i use Debian etc?
[05:20] <ubotu> kamiro87: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[05:20] <skarges> i think envy is not my problem because i have the same problem before envy
[05:20] <SlimeyPete> enry_: those which are capable of doing so (most programs are not written for dual-core - recompiling them won't help)
[05:20] <Jack_Sparrow> skarges: dont even consider trying to fix with Automatix script..
[05:20] <SlimeyPete> enry_: some apps can use two cores at one time, and those apps will just magically start working without you having to do anything.
[05:21] <skarges> ok but what i need to do remove all drivers and after ?
[05:21] <SlimeyPete> enry_: I think Debian does dual-core by dfault now, too. Not sure about other distributions.
[05:21] <variant> skarges: my advice would be to backup essential data and format/reinstall but this time follow the official docs instead of these stupid scripts
[05:21] <Jack_Sparrow> skarges: Put in the Ubuntu install disk...
[05:21] <enry_> SlimeyPete,  and if i buy a P4 661 ? all problem resolved?
[05:21] <vox754> kamiro87, probably you need to translate it yourself. Go to launchpad and take a look at the localization effort by polish people.
[05:21] <skarges> i have no data on it for the moment i can reinstall it no problem
[05:22] <Jack_Sparrow> skarges: That would be the best bet
[05:22] <variant> skarges: do so
[05:22] <SlimeyPete> enry_: I don't think the 661 is dual-core?
[05:22] <neverblue> skarges, google 'ubuntu guide', look at the Edgy guide, it gives a way to update to the 'latest nvidia driverss'
[05:22] <kamiro87> thanx
[05:22] <skarges> bu i think i have the same problem after reinstall
[05:22] <skarges> i try this thanks
[05:22] <variant> skarges: it will be easyer to fix if you havent run envy
[05:22] <neverblue> skarges, listen to what I said
[05:22] <enry_> SlimeyPete, no it's the last P4 with low energy requirement 86W instead of 110W
[05:22] <Some_Person> i installed a backend for my scanner, and i want to scan with xsane, but xsane only works with sudo/root
[05:22] <neverblue> skarges, then use nvidia-settings to get it running the way you like
[05:23] <Jack_Sparrow> skarges: after reinstall come here .. with video card make and model and you will get good help.
[05:23] <SlimeyPete> enry_: it should work OK, as far as I know.
[05:23] <vox754> variant, neverblue I thought people generally trusted the envy script.What happened?
[05:23] <SlimeyPete> I used to use a 630 with linux, it worked fine
[05:23] <Some_Person> i get an error "failed to open device 'hp3900:libusb:001:004': Access to resource has been denied
[05:23] <Some_Person> but as root/sudo, it works
[05:24] <Some_Person> but i get this "dangerous" message
[05:24] <enry_> SlimeyPete, a P4 with 3.6 Ghz is very different in prestations with a dual core (example an AMD X2
[05:24] <neverblue> VoX754 i never use envy
[05:24] <enry_> ?
[05:24] <variant> vox754: I never trusted it, for  the one or two simple things it automates it's _really_ not worth it
[05:24] <neverblue> ever
[05:24] <SlimeyPete> enry_: prestations?
[05:25] <sylvisj> Having trouble starting X, getting error "Requested Entity already in use!"
[05:25] <enry_> SlimeyPete, performance
[05:25] <dylle> Sbucat_: Still Around?
[05:25] <enry_> sorry
[05:25] <sylvisj> anyone have any diea what that means?
[05:26] <Sbucat_> dylle: i am busy sorry man but tell me i will read after
[05:26] <SlimeyPete> enry_: oh right. An X2 will be faster than a P4, usually.
[05:26] <dylle> I've got the bcm3406
[05:26] <blubloblu> !stats
[05:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:27] <enry_> How may applications are writen for dual core archiectures?
[05:27] <SlimeyPete> enry_: not many, but there will be more in the future
[05:27] <variant> enry_: count them
[05:27] <enry_> open office?
[05:27] <SlimeyPete> enry_: writing apps for dual-core is more difficult than for single core.
[05:28] <dv_> where can I change file associations?
[05:28] <SlimeyPete> I doubt open office will use both cores.
[05:28] <variant> enry_: read this, it's very revealing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-core_(computing)
[05:28] <dv_> when I want to open an audio file, audacious pops up, and that destroys my playlist
[05:28] <dv_> so I want ubuntu to use another program when I click
[05:29] <Some_Person> How come XSane only works with my scanner (HP3900 backend) when running it from sudo/root?
[05:29] <murak> Some of my windows are transparent Look: http://img365.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot05ct4.png
[05:29] <dv_> that is, I want to set the default app for opening audio files
[05:29] <cdavis> how do you get ubuntu to enter a hostname upon boot?
[05:29] <gper15martin> hola!!
[05:29] <cdavis> it has a blank hostname after a reboot, i would like it ot reverse my ip and enter it as the hostname
[05:30] <variant> murak: hold the alt key and scroll the mouse wheel over the application
[05:30] <gper15martin> alguien abla espaol??
[05:30] <vox754> !es | gper15martin
[05:30] <ubotu> gper15martin: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:31] <murak> si!
[05:31] <murak> Me habla espanjol
[05:31] <variant> cdavis: change your hostname in the network configuration program under the administration menu
[05:32] <vox754> murak, I guess you don't speak that well... he left. Anyways, your desktop is kewl!  But you are using Konversation withing Gnome, you traitor.
[05:32] <enry_> What processor tipe are you using now=?? channel'pol!!
[05:32] <variant> !offtopic | enry_
[05:32] <murak> @vox, is that bad?
[05:32] <ubotu> enry_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:33] <vox754> enry_, that is an offtopic question, please go to #ubuntu-offtopic for these small polls
[05:33] <murak> Konversation is godd
[05:33] <murak> argh, I meen good
[05:33] <rolfen> !info Konversation
[05:33] <ubotu> konversation: user friendly Internet Relay Chat (IRC) client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.1-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 5038 kB, installed size 12996 kB
[05:34] <brokenthorn> Konversation here too
[05:34] <mhz`-> xchat
[05:34] <mhz`-> <-
[05:34] <brokenthorn> I don't use GNOME
[05:34] <mhz`-> oh well, you're missing out :)
[05:34] <numus> i only have 4.4 gigs avalible in my ubuntu partition.. am i going to need more?
[05:34] <brokenthorn> But Konversation within Gnome, that's awkward
[05:34] <murak> Yes, it is good enough for me. But how do I change the transparacy?
[05:34] <ryanakca> irssi in KDE with my libnotify script... :)
[05:34] <goofey> who do I print a list of all installed apps?  CL if possible
[05:34] <goofey> er, how
[05:34] <ryanakca> numus: eventually, yes
[05:35] <Sbucat_> dylle: so u get the number of your wireless card?
[05:35] <brokenthorn> goofey: aptitude --help
[05:35] <samitheberber> !info irssi
[05:35] <ubotu> irssi: terminal based IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.10-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1010 kB, installed size 2788 kB
[05:35] <ryanakca> numus: if you use it daily, and store a lot of files, (music and pictures especially), it will eventually fill up
[05:35] <numus> ryanacka: What will take up al ot of space on ubuntu.. it doesn't have complex games like windows
[05:35] <numus> rynacka LAUGH! i store all music on my windows partition
[05:35] <goofey> brokenthorn: thanks!
[05:35] <murak> I tried changing the value of every "opacaty option" I could find in CompizConfig but no luck
[05:36] <numus> ryanakca that has about 40 gigs avalible right now.. and i am going to install a new harddrive when i get the time... all videos and music are stored on that
[05:36] <SlimeyPete> enry_: I use pentium dual-core and amd X2
[05:36] <ryanakca> numus: okies. If you don't store any files on it, you should be fine for some time
[05:36] <SlimeyPete> oh, and an athlon and a z80 ;)
[05:36] <numus> was wondering how large files get
[05:36] <dylle> Sbucat_: Yep bcm4306
[05:36] <numus> err logs
[05:36] <murak> -Oh, the transparacy is killing me!
[05:37] <brokenthorn> murak: Hold Alt and then scrool with your mouse wheel on the window
[05:37] <Sbucat_> dylle: are this bcm4306 right=
[05:37] <numus>  hold alt and scroll mousewheel
[05:37] <numus> laugh
[05:37] <Sbucat_> dylle: right?
[05:37] <dylle> yes, did it like you said
[05:37] <SlimeyPete> numus: I've been running ubuntu on this laptop for abut three months and have 18 megabytes of logs
[05:37] <murak> Woohoo! it worked!
[05:37] <dropety> Is nautilus responsible for loading the background image? (it doesn't load at login)
[05:37] <murak> Thanks a million!
[05:37] <gregorygreg> hello
[05:37] <Sbucat_> dylle: are you sure ? because if is this chip it's very very easy
[05:38] <murak> Now I can play Monkey Island!
[05:38] <brokenthorn> dropety: yes
[05:38] <Sbucat_> dylle: to install
[05:38] <numus> does gdesklets load on boot.. or do i need to alter a session for it
[05:38] <phpwner> can someone help me set up moblock?
[05:38] <gregorygreg> can anyone give me some pointers on writing a shell script that automatically scales down my cpu power and brightness when I unplug my laptop?
[05:38] <murak> Thank you Brokenthorn!
[05:38] <dylle> Yes, from terminal: Broadcom corp... bcm4306 802.11g...
[05:38] <phpwner> can anyone else connect to the debian package repository mentioned at http://moblock-deb.sourceforge.net/
[05:38] <along78> hi
[05:38] <dropety> brokenthorn: Any suggestions why it is not auto-loading?
[05:39] <dylle> thing is I'll have to install the drivers from the cd, considering I have no internet access on my pc without it
[05:39] <Sbucat_> dylle: you are luck xD it works
[05:39] <along78> i have problem with vpn..already install it but dont have openvpn.conf
[05:39] <gregorygreg> can anyone give me some pointers on writing a shell script that automatically scales down my cpu power and brightness when I unplug my laptop?
[05:39] <along78> what wrong?
[05:39] <Sbucat_> dylle: just try to install ndiswrapper
[05:39] <zipper> dylle, you're for some fun.... the bcm4xxx chips i have experience were either buggy, or wouldnt work at all =/
[05:39] <zipper> in linux anyway
[05:40] <dylle> ubuntu is still installing, its @ 68%
[05:40] <numus> anyone use gdesklets?
[05:40] <teamz> hi
[05:40] <vox754> !repeat > gregorygreg
[05:40] <gregorygreg> what's up vox
[05:40] <gregorygreg> vox754
[05:40] <teamz>  when I type "hdparm -i /dev/hdb1" I get this error : /dev/hdb1: HDIO_GET_IDENTITY failed: Invalid argument
[05:40] <dylle> zipper: I know, I got it to work on freebsd once, but can't remember how :p
[05:40] <zipper> dylle, :)
[05:40] <along78> anyone can help?
[05:41] <numus> well if anyone does and uses a weather applet how do you get ti to retrieve the data correctly
[05:41] <aantn> along78: with what?
[05:41] <along78> i have problem with vpn..already install it but dont have openvpn.conf
[05:41] <Sbucat_> zipper: are you crazy my bcm4306 works great
[05:41] <numus> along78 use hamachi
[05:41] <along78> i'm blank
[05:41] <numus> along78 hamachi runs really good in linux.. and it can crosslink with windows
[05:42] <aantn> Hello OldPink
[05:42] <gregorygreg> okay lemme change my question
[05:42] <Anolis> I've forgotten how to go about assigning an application to a certain type of file. How do i go about doing this?
[05:42] <OldPink> Hey aantn
[05:42] <aantn> OldPink: long time no see
[05:42] <along78> numus: want to connect server that using openvpn
[05:42] <along78> can hamachi do that?
[05:42] <teamz> anybody can help me with hdparm ?
[05:42] <gregorygreg> can I write a shell script that would take a value from an applet (smartdimmer), and based on whether or not my power was from battery or A/C adjust the brightness?
[05:42] <gregorygreg> would a shell script be able to do all that?
[05:43] <numus> along78 hamachi makes its own vpn using a webserver.. dont think it can work with openvpn
[05:43] <along78> numus: how hamchi work?need to register?
[05:43] <Some_Person> can i use windows screensaver in ubuntu?
[05:43] <IceLink> can anybody tell me how to install a set of midi-sounds and where i find a complete one
[05:43] <Anolis> How do I assign programs to certain file types, is what I'm trying to ask
[05:44] <numus> along78 umm.. no registration required... you just create your own server and password then with all other clients login with that network name and password
[05:44] <tatters> I am looking for a application which record/replay mouse events but not xmacro and preferbly with a gui?
[05:44] <OldPink> Hi guys. Got a question. Only ever ran Ubuntu on my current computer, a 3Ghz, 768Mb RAM, 80GB HD desktop, with great results, really fast.
[05:44] <OldPink> How will Ubuntu run on a IBM Thinkpad with a 1Ghz Processor, 256Mb of RAM and a 20GB HD? Obviously it won't be used as much, mostly for browsing/Pidgin/blogging....
[05:44] <numus> along78 hamachi works great.. in windows it has a gui that rocks.. in linux it is run from terminal which sucks but ehh..
[05:44] <gregorygreg> it will run well oldpink
[05:44] <elik> howto play vcd in totem?
[05:44] <SlimeyPete> OldPink: it'll run OK. 256MB of RAM isn't much but it will be just about enough.
[05:44] <numus> elik have you tried videolan?
[05:44] <mhz`-> Oldpink, should be ok..the ram...ehh.
[05:45] <gregorygreg> oldpink you should look into increasing the ram to 512
[05:45] <elik> i dont know what is videolan totem says it missing some plugin
[05:45] <gregorygreg> that's pretty cheap nowadays
[05:45] <phpwner> how can i test if a dpkg repository is online?
[05:45] <Anolis> OldPink, should be just fine for pidgin, and browsing, sites like youtube may be a bit jittery as far as video playback goes
[05:45] <dr_willis> OldPink,  ive ran on less. you may want to use the xubuntu variant. its lighter.
[05:45] <dylle> Sbucat_: Its installed, what will I need. I have ndiswrapper v1.46 or will I need something else?
[05:45] <gregorygreg> can I write a shell script that would take a value from an applet (smartdimmer), and based on whether or not my power was from battery or A/C adjust the brightness?
[05:45] <elik> howto install that plugin?
[05:45] <phpwner> numus how do you start your hamachi at startup?
[05:45] <Sbucat_> dylle: i think no if you have ndiswrapper
[05:45] <gregorygreg> anyone have an answer as to whether or not a script can handle that?
[05:45] <Some_Person> OY! HOW DO I GET THE PREVIEW BACK THAT I CLOSED IN XSANE????????????
[05:46] <dylle> I just need to install itn ow
[05:46] <Sbucat_> dylle: you are ok
[05:46] <dylle> it now*
[05:46] <Superkuh> I am having problems with gnome-terminal failing to run due to what I believe are gdk library issues. I have posted in more detail here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+question/9430
[05:46] <numus> phpwner there was a tutorial i used that had some alteration of files.. adn then in sessions you run hamachi start
[05:46] <phpwner> hm
[05:46] <aantn> OldPink: good luck. I gtg
[05:46] <dr_willis> gregorygreg,   why use the applet? theres a lot of powersaveing settings you can read directly from  /proc/ (i think) and act upon.
[05:47] <numus> phpwner http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/VNC_and_Hamachi
[05:47] <gregorygreg> see the thing is I have to use a special applet to change my brightness
[05:47] <ShackJack> Hi - using photorec utility on a USB disk - is there a way to have it "retain" the filenames it recovers - it gives me things ilke f4567.jpg, and so forth...
[05:47] <along78> numus: try now..anyway thanks helping me
[05:48] <OldPink> gregorygreg, that's what I thought, thanks. But I got to thinking that I hadn't actually tried it on a legacy PC, and that is the minimum, so it could be worse thank I'd thought.
[05:48] <OldPink> SlimeyPete, mhz, gregorygreg, just how slow will 256 be seeing? Annoyingly slow? I've not been annoyed at my PC since a year ago on Windows, lol...
[05:48] <OldPink> gregorygreg, here in the UK laptops can be quite pricey, increasing to 512Mb brings double the speed, double the RAM.. and double the price :(
[05:48] <OldPink> Anolis, dr_willis, thanks. I've tried Xubuntu on this system and am not a huge fan. Is there anyway I could cut down regular Ubuntu to run like Xubuntu but still GNOME based?
[05:48] <dr_willis> gregorygreg,  it maybe setting some variable/file in   /proc/acpi/
[05:48] <numus> phpwner Hamachi Startup Script.... i believe that one worked.. that causes hamachi to login  and everything when it is started.. then in sessions run hamachi start
[05:48] <Sbucat_> dylle:  ubuntu 7.04?
[05:48] <numus> along78 try what
[05:48] <dr_willis> OldPink,  i really dont see much diff. :) try Ubuntu.. see if it works.. if not install the xubuintu-desktop
[05:48] <SlimeyPete> OldPink: I have a box which has 256MB. It'll run firefox at a usable speed.
[05:48] <dylle> Sbucat_: yep
[05:48] <SlimeyPete> as long as you don't kp lots of tabs open
[05:48] <Sbucat_> dylle: well so try before to istall this sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[05:49] <Anolis> OldPink, if it's just for browsing and pidgin, why would xubuntu be an issue, as long as it get's the job done?
[05:49] <m1r> for 256mb machine i would recomend alternate install cd
[05:49] <simon__> hello. PLease help i got a problem. I run dual boot XP and Feisty. and now i dont have any sound. Dont know why. I have checked all settingsi know of
[05:49] <Anolis> OldPink, you could even try DSL
[05:49] <dylle> Sbucat_: I haven't install ndiswrapper yet
[05:49] <dr_willis> PuppyLinux, an FeatehrLinux are also nice
[05:49] <Sbucat_> dylle: we try before fwcutter
[05:49] <simon__> i have sound in xp butnot in feisty
[05:50] <dylle> ok
[05:50] <dylle> will I need the driver cd in the cd-rom?
[05:50] <Kisom> Any idea how I generate a 2048-bit certificate for lighttpd? "openssl req -new -x509 -keyout server.pem -out server.pem -days 365 -nodes" is working, but only with 1024 bit...
[05:50] <Sbucat_> dylle: i have used fwcutter and it works
[05:50] <SlimeyPete> simon__: what sound card?
[05:50] <Don64> i installed regular install with 128mb of RAM and had no problems
[05:50] <elik> i've installed vcd plugin for totem but it says that cant play this file even it recognize this plugin
[05:50] <simon__> uh. dont know
[05:50] <OldPink> dr_willis, sounds good. I only have Ubuntu CDs, so if I was going Xubuntu it'd be via sudo aptitude install xubuntu, not via a base install, if you know what I mean?
[05:50] <OldPink> SlimeyPete, usable? :P At how many tabs does it become unusable?
[05:50] <OldPink> Anolis, I don't know, after a year loving GNOME I'd like to stick with it. DSL is not an option, sorry, tried that, have it on a memory stick somewhere, really is too minimal.
[05:50] <OldPink> I say browsing, pidgin, blogging but you know how Ubuntu is, I'll get to fiddling with it and god knows what I'll be doing on there. :P
[05:51] <SlimeyPete> simon__: run "lspci" in a terminal. That will show you your hardware.
[05:51] <ryanakca> numus: okies
[05:51] <along78> numus: hamachi
[05:51] <psnel> I need help with BASH / cron / RP-PPPOE / routing, please.
[05:51] <SlimeyPete> OldPink: well, I've had a handful open befoe without much slowdown
[05:51] <Sbucat_> dylle: have you done?
[05:51] <gregorygreg> can someone tell me how I reinitialize my sound after suspend?
[05:51] <OldPink> Anolis, if 256 is so bad it needs DSL, I'd rather pay for the 512
[05:51] <dylle> yes, just says sorry try again
[05:51] <OldPink> SlimeyPete, thanks alot. I think 256 sounds OK, but I'll look at 512 pricing now
[05:51] <Anolis> :P
[05:52] <dylle> wait
[05:52] <m1r> oldpink, how fast proc u have on that machine ?
[05:52] <simon__> Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[05:52] <dylle> E: Couldn't find package bcm43xx -fwcutter
[05:52] <ryanakca> psnel: with what? They are vast subjects. Try asking your question :)
[05:52] <OldPink> m1r: This machine? 3.0Ghz. Then laptop I'm looking at? 1.0Ghz
[05:52] <Anolis> OldPink, 256 should be adequate to run a normal ubuntu install
[05:52] <dylle> Sbucat_: Got that error
[05:52] <psnel>  What would cause a cron job script to fail, whilst running the cron script manually (e.g. 'run now' from webmin) succeeds?
[05:52] <SlimeyPete> simon__: ah, intel HDA. Lots of people have problems with those. Try searching the ubuntu forums?
[05:52] <Sbucat_> dylle: sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter = error?
[05:53] <m1r> oldpink, i have 500mhz/256ram, installed over alternate cd, all runs ok
[05:53] <dylle> yes
[05:53] <OldPink> m1r: Brilliant, thanks.
[05:53] <Sbucat_> dylle: have u the dvd\cd of ubuntu? into the driver?
[05:53] <gregorygreg> is there anyway to reinitialize the hda_intel driver?
[05:53] <dylle> nop
[05:53] <ryanakca> psnel: pastebin the script...
[05:53] <Sbucat_> dylle: drive ?
[05:53] <gregorygreg> dylle were you answering me?
[05:53] <psnel> ryanakca: pastebin?
[05:53] <Sbucat_> dylle: put the dvd cd on the drive
[05:54] <dylle> gana-home: No
[05:54] <OldPink> Currently I'm doing about what the laptop would see. Plus amarok, google desktop, bluetooth. And I'm using around 300Mb of RAM. :S
[05:54] <SlimeyPete> gregorygreg: do an lsmod, find the module name, then rmmod it and insmod it
[05:54] <dadt> Hi
[05:54] <m1r> oldpink, consider using xubuntu alternate for that machine, u get bit more speed :)
[05:54] <dylle> gregorygreg* No
[05:54] <gregorygreg> lsmod?
[05:54] <ryanakca> ubotu, please tell psnel about pastebin
[05:54] <simon__> nope
[05:54] <OldPink> m1r: Yeah, I'd consider/try it (again), but I do prefer GNOME.
[05:54] <simon__> why do they sell bad cards?
[05:54] <SlimeyPete> gregorygreg: "lsmod" in terminal. Shows driver modules which are currently loaded.
[05:54] <dylle> Sbucat_: Same error
[05:54] <dadt> i search for a software : a daemon that count the number a keys pressed, and make stats with this (number/hour, speed ...)
[05:54] <Sbucat_> dylle: ok lets go to synapitic
[05:54] <m1r> :) same here, it has longer proces for booting, but once is up it dosent matter
[05:54] <gregorygreg> cool
[05:54] <gregorygreg> I will try that
[05:55] <OldPink> !brb
[05:55] <SlimeyPete> then "sudo rmmod <module name>; sudo insmod <module name>" (if insmod doesn't work then try modprobe)
[05:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about brb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:55] <OldPink> Ah, wrong bot. :P
[05:55] <Sbucat_> dylle: system--amministration and synaptic
[05:55] <skarges> hello again
[05:55] <Some_Person> Is the Flurry screensaver supposed to be choppy? I remember it in Edgy being just like the Mac Flurry sceensaver
[05:55] <skarges> i have reinstall my ubuntu 64
[05:55] <simon__> what can i do then?
[05:55] <skarges> activate nvidia-glx and the xorg crash again
[05:55] <dylle> Sbucat_: Done
[05:55] <Tecform> hi
[05:56] <Sbucat_> dylle: menu edit : add a cd rom
[05:56] <SlimeyPete> simon__: nothing on the forums?
[05:56] <Tecform> no
[05:56] <Tecform> hi
[05:56] <Sbucat_> dylle: the system will ask you to add a cd rom
[05:56] <skarges> i have a nv35 and i don't understand why nvidia-glx driver don't work
[05:56] <dneary> Hi
[05:56] <Tecform> I no
[05:56] <simon__> didnt find any yet
[05:56] <dylle> ok
[05:56] <dylle> Sbucat_: Ok...
[05:56] <gregorygreg> how do I disable more than one module at once? separate it with a comma?
[05:57] <gregorygreg> rather than issuing multiple commands?
[05:57] <Tecform> Anybody speak spanish?
[05:57] <Sbucat_> dylle: ok now search this bcm43xx-fwcutter on synaptic
[05:57] <SlimeyPete> !spanisg | tecform
[05:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spanisg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:57] <SlimeyPete> !spanish | tecform
[05:57] <ubotu> tecform: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:57] <dneary> I'm looking for an integrated system back-up solution for my Ubuntu desktop - like on Mac, I "just" want to be able to click "back up my personal data" and have the basic information I need to reconstitute my system saved onto an external hard-drive (& refreshable once a week)
[05:57] <Tecform> thanks
[05:57] <gregorygreg> slimeypete how do I remove more than one module at once? do I separate the numbers with commas?
[05:58] <skarges> anyone can help me
[05:58] <psnel> ryanakca: pasted @ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ... its calling me a spammer
[05:58] <SlimeyPete> gregorygreg: I'm not sure,sorry.Try it and see :)
[05:58] <gregorygreg> ok
[05:58] <dylle> Sbucat_: Doesn't find anything
[05:58] <dadt> backupppc look great dneary
[05:58] <skarges> for solve this problem with nvidia opengl
[05:58] <numus> this is going to sound dumb.. but if i mistakenly switch into terminal only how do i get back into ubuntu gui?
[05:58] <numus> what is the command to switch into ubuntu from terminal
[05:58] <dneary> I imagine that a minimum would be /etc, the package database, and everything in /home, I suppose, but I don't really want to have to think about it - and space isn't really an issue :)
[05:58] <dneary> dadt: Thanks for the tip
[05:59] <VoX> numus: alt-F7
[05:59] <dneary> I'll have a look
[05:59] <skarges> i have this in log (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[05:59] <skarges> Fatal server error:
[05:59] <skarges> no screens found
[05:59] <Sbucat_> dylle: omg...well you must install this fuck bcm43xx-fwcutter search in google how to do this or u will not install nothing
[05:59] <Some_Person> How come ALL the ubuntu screensavers are choppy/laggy for me?
[05:59] <vox754> gregorygreg, usually multiple arguments for commands are separated by spaces. Read the manual pages. And please don't repeat so often the question.
[05:59] <skarges> but it work with nv in place of nvidia in xorg.conf
[05:59] <numus> awesome that works...
[05:59] <dadt> theres also rsync and unission
[06:00] <baikonur> I'm using Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 and Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 on Ubuntu. In both versions I set "Trust junk mail headers set by: SpamAssassin" but emails with "X-Spam-Flag: YES" aren't automatically moved to the Junk folder. They stay in the inbox for 1.5.0.12 and for 2.0.0.4 they stay in the inbox until I select "Run junk mail controls on folder". I think this is a bug or can this be configuration issue? If "Trust junk mail headers set by ..." is
[06:00] <baikonur>  checked and the move directive etc. in place in my opinion this can only be bug. any suggestions?
[06:00] <numus> but alt, ctrl f12 isn't sending me into terminal
[06:00] <dylle> Sbucat_: How come I didn't get it with the cd?
[06:00] <numus> strange
[06:00] <gregorygreg> vox754 sorry
[06:00] <skarges> anyone can help me i don't uderstand what happen
[06:00] <akrus> hello, could someone tell me if it's possible to input special symbols from keyboard like it's ALT+0153 for (tm) in windows?
[06:00] <SlimeyPete> numus: I dont think f12 works. try f1 through f6.
[06:00] <numus> also is there a linux webmail program that uses http and can log into hotmail
[06:00] <gregorygreg> It won't let me rmmod modules because they are in use.  is there any way that I can override this?
[06:00] <ryanakca> psnel: try pastebin.ca
[06:01] <Sbucat_> dylle: just a second i will find out in the web
[06:01] <skarges> the opengl nvidia drivers work on ubuntu 64 ?
[06:01] <akrus> skarges: likely~
[06:01] <numus> kinda on accident just closed the window.. did anyone answer to my mail question
[06:01] <SlimeyPete> gregorygreg: rmmod -f   (very dangerous - save files first!). see "man rmmod" for more info.
[06:01] <stefg> baikonur: since this is a very mozilla-specific issue, you're probably better off to ask in the thunderbird channels
[06:01] <dneary> dadt: Did you mean backuppc?
[06:01] <gregorygreg> thanks slimeypete
[06:01] <skarges> i have a problem with my xorg
[06:01] <ryanakca> psnel: sorry, I have to go, but there are many people, more knowledgeable than I, that can help you :)
[06:01] <dneary> dadt: Or is there really a backupppc?
[06:01] <skarges> when i activate it it crash any idea ?
[06:02] <dneary> I've heard of Bacula too, but don't know if it's any good
[06:02] <baikonur> stefg: are there ubuntu specific thunderbird channels? on #thunderbird on irc.mozilla.org I didn't get an answer.
[06:02] <nepomuk> how can i set a soundcard default ?
[06:02] <stefg> !backup
[06:02] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[06:03] <psnel> ryanakca: ok. btw, can you test the pastebin? http://pastebin.ca/610665
[06:03] <Sbucat_> dylle: try to write this on terminal bcm43xx-fwcutter and see what terminal say
[06:03] <skarges> who can help me with this nvidia-glx problem
[06:03] <Sbucat_> dylle: i did not remember if it's istallated by default
[06:03] <Some_Person> How come ALL the ubuntu screensavers are choppy/laggy for me?
[06:04] <OldPink> I'm back
[06:04] <ryanakca> psnel: firstline, change it to #!/bin/sh instead of #! /bin/sh, and that should fix the problem
[06:04] <dylle> bcm43xx-fwcutter is not currently installed....
[06:04] <skarges> help please with this nvidia-glx problem
[06:04] <ryanakca> psnel: cheers A)
[06:04] <dylle> Sbucat_: bcm43xx-fwcutter is not currently installed....
[06:04] <skarges> it don't work on my xorg under ubuntu 64
[06:05] <Sbucat_> dylle: and it said how to install right?
[06:05] <stefg> baikonur: no, there aren't  ubuntu-thunderbird channels. but this is application, not OS related. Sorry if irc.mozilla -folks don't want to help you, and although it might be valid to ask here, i doubt you'll get an answer (evolution is ubuntu's default client,sad as  this is)
[06:05] <dylle> Sbucat_: Yes
[06:05] <psnel> ryanakca: chow )
[06:05] <OldPink> How do I change my "real name" in IRC? It still says "Real name: purple" ? lol
[06:05] <Sbucat_> dylle: try to do that
[06:05] <Some_Person> there is a thunderbird channel: irc.mozilla.org #thunderbirxd
[06:05] <Sbucat_> dylle: but synaptic must be closed
[06:05] <dylle> Sbucat_: Can't find the package
[06:05] <Jack_Sparrow> baikonur: what was the issue with thunderbird.. sorry I just came i
[06:05] <yunhual> hi, i use ubuntu, i am find that nm and addr2line can't show line info witch compile with dbg info
[06:06] <baikonur> Jack_Sparrow:  "Trust junk mail headers set by: SpamAssassin" does not work
[06:06] <yunhual> hi, i use ubuntu, i am find that nm and addr2line can't show line info witch compile with dbg info
[06:06] <Some_Person> How come ALL the ubuntu screensavers are choppy/laggy for me?
[06:06] <Jack_Sparrow> baikonur: I have never used spamassin, so I wouldnt know.. I dont get much junk mail
[06:06] <zodmaner> Maybe you need the restricted driver
[06:06] <zodmaner> for your video card
[06:06] <skarges> who can help me with this xorg config problem
[06:07] <zodmaner> since most screen server is OpenGL
[06:07] <Mithra> Hey, my WUSB54GS doesnt seem to connect to the internet, I finally got it to install the drivers and now it doesnt seem to find the network, it there any way to fix this?  Or to see a list of all available wireless networks?
[06:07] <Some_Person> i have the dang restricted driver running
[06:07] <skarges> i have activeted nvidia-glx on my xorg and it crash my xorg
[06:07] <zodmaner> What card do you use?
[06:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Some_Person: what does glxgears show in cli?
[06:08] <zodmaner> ATI/NVIDIA?
[06:08] <Some_Person> choppy gears
[06:08] <yunhual> hi, i use ubuntu, i am find that nm and addr2line can't show line info witch compile with dbg info
[06:08] <stefg> skarges: what error message do you get? How did you install nvidia-glx? what card do you have?
[06:08] <skarges> any
[06:08] <Some_Person> 33 frames in 5.1 seconds =  6.487 FPS
[06:08] <skarges> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[06:08] <skarges> Fatal server error:
[06:08] <skarges> no screens found
[06:08] <Selrach> i am having issues with my sound. it stopped working when i recently logged out and back in
[06:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Some_Person: there is your problem
[06:09] <Some_Person> Jack_Sparrow: What's wrong then?
[06:09] <skarges> i have this before EE) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Your GeForce FX 5900 graphics card does not have the necessary
[06:09] <skarges> (EE) NVIDIA(GPU-0):     external power cables attached; X will not start unless
[06:09] <skarges> (EE) NVIDIA(GPU-0):     this is rectified.  Please shut down your computer, open
[06:09] <skarges> (EE) NVIDIA(GPU-0):     its case, and attach the appropriate power connectors.
[06:09] <skarges> (EE) NVIDIA(GPU-0):     Your video card may have multiple power connectors.  If
[06:09] <skarges> (EE) NVIDIA(GPU-0):     so, each must be attached to a separate power cable.
[06:09] <skarges> (EE) NVIDIA(GPU-0):     Please see the documentation provided with your video card
[06:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Some_Person: drivers are not installed correctly
[06:09] <skarges> (EE) NVIDIA(GPU-0):     for more details.  If you think you have received this
[06:09] <skarges> (EE) NVIDIA(GPU-0):     message in error, you may specify the
[06:09] <skarges> (EE) NVIDIA(GPU-0):     "NoPowerConnectorCheck" X configuration option in the
[06:09] <skarges> (EE) NVIDIA(GPU-0):     Screen section of your X config file.
[06:09] <Sbucat_> dylle: i am sorry your card works but i have not time now to explain you how to install fwcutter, try to learn something form the network
[06:09] <Anolis> dude... use pastebin
[06:09] <Jack_Sparrow> !pastebin
[06:09] <Some_Person> Jack_Sparrow: but they are
[06:09] <stefg> !paste | skarges
[06:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:09] <ubotu> skarges: please see above
[06:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Some_Person: No they are not
[06:09] <Some_Person> Jack_Sparrow: I'm using the nvidia driver in the restricted driver manager thingy
[06:10] <yunhual> hi, i use ubuntu, i am find that nm and addr2line can't show line info witch compile with dbg info
[06:10] <dylle> ok Sbucat_, I'll try use tutorials
[06:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Some_Person: What video card are you using..
[06:10] <yunhual> it is work correct on other linux
[06:10] <Some_Person> Jack_Sparrow: nvidia geforce 6100
[06:10] <nuxil> http://www.pugetsystems.com/submerged.php :o
[06:10] <OldPink> What do you guys make of this: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TOSHIBA-TECRA-9000-LAPTOP-WIFI-BLUETOOTH-INFARE_W0QQitemZ200126760168QQihZ010QQcategoryZ177QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ?
[06:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Some_Person: ANd fiesty is your OS?
[06:10] <Selrach> <_<
[06:11] <Some_Person> Jack_Sparrow: yes
[06:11] <OldPink> The whole faulty thing seems weird
[06:11] <OldPink> Only works sometimes?
[06:11] <Selrach> SP, ati card?
[06:11] <stefg> !offtopic | OldPink
[06:11] <ubotu> OldPink: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:11] <Some_Person> Jack_Sparrow: http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/9575/screenshotdq7.png
[06:11] <skarges> hello again soory
[06:11] <skarges> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29249/
[06:11] <skarges> for my x log
[06:11] <leks> anyone on gutsy has nm-applet running?
[06:11] <OldPink> Stefg, if you were here before you would see it's actually quite on topic
[06:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Some_Person: I dont need that.. if you are getting 6 fps your drivers are not working right.
[06:12] <Some_Person> Jack_Sparrow: ok then. how do i fix it?
[06:12] <Selrach> Some_Person, are you using an ATI card?
[06:12] <stefg> OldPink: ok, so take it as a bot check :-)
[06:12] <Some_Person> Selrach: no
[06:12] <dylle> Sbucat_: I don't think the problem is the card or fwcutter I think the cd isn't being found properly in my drive
[06:12] <Selrach> hrm
[06:12] <leks> Some_Person, what about some more information?
[06:12] <Some_Person> leks: like...?
[06:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Some_Person: What have you done so far.. Tried any of the scripts that install drivers?
[06:12] <leks> what card you have?
[06:13] <Some_Person> Jack_Sparrow: No, just that checkbox
[06:13] <Some_Person> leks: nvidia geforce 6100
[06:13] <Jack_Sparrow> leks: He said he had nvidia gforce 6100
[06:13] <Sbucat_> dylle: yes that it's you can try, to install fwcutter with this but it's hard you must donwload so much file (red dot) http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/
[06:13] <numus> i have a pny geforce 5500 fx
[06:13] <leks> Some_Person, can you post your x log?
[06:13] <Some_Person> leks: where is it located?
[06:14] <namit|work> what do you use to edit pictures?
[06:14] <Selrach> I am have an issue with my audio. It stopped working recently after I logged out and back in. I am using Kubuntu... sound card is integrate,d Realtek ALC655
[06:14] <stefg> skarges: actually this log tells you what to do. Have you done so?
[06:14] <Jack_Sparrow> namit|work: gimp
[06:14] <namit|work> Jack_Sparrow: I just want to rotate a few and crop
[06:14] <Jack_Sparrow> namit|work: try gthumb
[06:15] <leks> Some_Person, cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:15] <OldPink> Final verdict. Will Ubuntu work well enough of 256MB of RAM, or should I pay an extra 50 odd and make it 512Mb?
[06:15] <stefg> OldPink: 512MB makes a huge difference
[06:15] <Sbucat_> dylle: here there are all software http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/allpackages
[06:15] <dr_evil> the only replacement for ram is even more ram
[06:15] <numus> omg.. i love ubuntu
[06:15] <logreeval> I need major help!, I cant seem to login to my ubuntu, it is just the brown screen, HELP!
[06:15] <OldPink> stefg I can imagine. It does the same to the price though. :P
[06:15] <numus> if i fullscreen totem and switch workspaces it keeps that workspace fullscreened movie and the rest i can view normally
[06:16] <Some_Person> leks: its too long for terminal. i'll use gedit and pastebin it
[06:16] <leks> some sure
[06:16] <leks> *Some_Person,
[06:16] <Jack_Sparrow> leks: thanks for the help
[06:17] <Some_Person> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29251/
[06:17] <logreeval> please anyone, i cant login to the computer it goes to the brown screen, then this white box in the corner pops up
[06:17] <stefg> OldPink: 256MB are gnomIshly challenged, while 512 MB is the full blaze.... if you don't want to cough up that extra money take a look at xubuntu
[06:17] <Jack_Sparrow> logreeval: What have you done recently... installed anythin? How did you install it?
[06:17] <ariel_> #ubuntu.es
[06:18] <dylle> #ubuntu.za
[06:18] <logreeval> i change something in the network interfaces place and install bootmanager
[06:18] <stefg> !irc
[06:18] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[06:18] <frederik> how what is the package i need to install to play .wma files and windows type of files
[06:18] <OldPink> stefg: Had this earlier, tried xubuntu on this desktop (3.0Ghz 768Mb) and wasn't a fan. Probably prefer fast xubuntu over slow ubuntu though, but don't really want to take that risk. I think I'm looking at 512 after what I've heard in here, but that is quite expensive. Anyone know where I'll get a well priced laptop in the UK? I mean, around 100/$200? Used/Refurb...?
[06:18] <Some_Person> leks: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29251/
[06:18] <frederik> w32codecs or somethink like that
[06:19] <logreeval> Jack_Sparrow : is there any way to absolutely get into the ubuntu? some special thing?
[06:19] <Inuyaga> hey can anyone tell me what the pkg for xserver-xorg-dbg is under fesity?
[06:20] <Inuyaga> im trying to fix the bug in the evtouch driver
[06:20] <apichart> Anybody know howto use pppd on bluetooth.  There is no connection on network-manager.  Please help
[06:20] <logreeval> Jack_Sparrow : i dont know , but i think the network interfaces thing is what screwed it up....
[06:20] <pwnguin> how do I turn up a webcams brightness?
[06:20] <dylle> oh shit
[06:20] <Genomsaren> hi
[06:21] <dylle> ubuntu fucked up my windows bootup
[06:21] <gerro> dylle: hmm?
[06:21] <PriceChild> !ohmy | dylle
[06:21] <stefg> OldPink: i guess you're better served to looking for an  SO-DIMM to boost your existing box. Used laptops in that price range tend to have their better days behind them (worn out connectors, bad batteries)
[06:21] <ubotu> dylle: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:21] <dylle> woops :(
[06:21] <Genomsaren> I have a serious problem and I need help
[06:21] <Inuyaga> thats not that hard to correct dylle
[06:21] <Genomsaren> my xserver gives error
[06:21] <xpoint> format C: :-)
[06:21] <Inuyaga> what error?
[06:21] <Genomsaren> im sending you pictures
[06:21] <gerro> dylle: yeah you have to setup grub for dual boot and have windows on there first then umm.... ah screw it I have no clue I just swap hardrives when I want different OS its like 100x more simpler
[06:22] <Inuyaga> nude ones?
[06:22] <OldPink> stefg, I just want a legacy laptop to browse/chat on really. I don't want a faster desktop. I can't see this getting any faster tbh :)
[06:22] <Inuyaga> not rly there is a windows entry in the grub conf
[06:22] <gerro> OldPink: it can
[06:22] <Inuyaga> just uncomment it
[06:22] <dylle> gerro: Windows was installed there first, getting error: ntldr is missing
[06:22] <krux> Q.  I want to be able to read cfm files ?? is there a package for it ?? or is it third party ??.
[06:22] <Inuyaga> oh
[06:22] <Inuyaga> well then you blew up the partition
[06:22] <Genomsaren> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=487920 in this forum I have found another user who has the same problem and I have already tried the advices in that forum but they didnt work for me. What shall I do?
[06:23] <Inuyaga> try running a revover
[06:23] <frederik> how do i check if dual core is working under ubuntu?
[06:23] <ariel_> alquien que me idique ayuda en espaol
[06:23] <Some_Person> leks? Jack_Sparrow? Are you there? Can you help me?
[06:23] <logreeval> Jack_Sparrow : i edited this file /etc/network/interfaces
[06:23] <stefg> OldPink: i have an Oldish Compaq M700 (800Mhz/256 MB) running xubuntu for that purpose, which i bought used for 190 
[06:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Some_Person: still looking..
[06:23] <gerro> dylle: want to do full ubuntu install?
[06:23] <Some_Person> ok
[06:23] <dylle> Inuyaga: They weren't on the same hdd even
[06:23] <dylle> I don't do partitions
[06:23] <n2diy> frederik: lshw
[06:23] <Inuyaga> oh wow
[06:23] <Don64> OldPink: Im running ubuntu on an old Sony Vaio 1.4ghz with 128ram no problems with speed
[06:23] <Inuyaga> oh wait\
[06:23] <Inuyaga> ya
[06:24] <Inuyaga> thats ur issue
[06:24] <Inuyaga> you need to tell the boot loader to set the proper root
[06:24] <Inuyaga> most likely
[06:24] <dylle> well at least windows I can do something about, just need to do a lot of googling
[06:24] <Inuyaga> the MS boot loader is most likely looking on the wrong harddrive
[06:24] <logreeval> please , i really need help
[06:24] <gerro> Don64: wow sweet ride you got there! what graphics card? it got wireless too?
[06:25] <Inuyaga> Genom
[06:25] <Inuyaga> did you post a xorg.conf
[06:25] <Don64> It installed with the standard Ubuntu cd
[06:25] <Inuyaga> and which nvcard tou you have
[06:25] <Inuyaga> *do
[06:25] <OldPink> gerro: I'm sure measured it can, but I never notice lag, even when running alot of apps this box has always been VERY fast on Ubuntu. I mean, I don't use it demandingly, but I don't want a blazing fast gaming box. Never been a gamer.
[06:25] <OldPink> stefg: Where'd you find such a deal? And how do you find Xubuntu in the long term, compared to the GNOME desktop?
[06:25] <OldPink> Don64: You think a 1.4 Ghz 128Mb is anything like a 1.0Ghz 256Mb? I think I'll just go for 256, save the cash. :) And you're running Ubuntu, yes? Not xubuntu?
[06:25] <Don64> AGP invidia
[06:26] <Don64> yes
[06:26] <stefg> OldPink: won't help /you/ ... http://www.preiswertepc.de
[06:26] <gerro> OldPink: gaming doesn't benefit at all from most tweaks, overclocking is what you use for gaming :)
[06:26] <Inuyaga> well card model matters
[06:26] <namit|work> Jack_Sparrow: na that's not the best for editing I want to have something like windows editor any ideas?
[06:26] <Inuyaga> did you try the nvidia drive?
[06:26] <Inuyaga> from restricted?
[06:26] <Inuyaga> *driver
[06:27] <Inuyaga> also logreeval what is your problem?
[06:27] <Don64> gerro: it is an old PC came with Win ME
[06:27] <Genomsaren> yes I tried to install NVidia driver from root and from normal user too
[06:27] <OldPink> Don64: Thanks, mind if I IM you? Getting a little offtopic.
[06:27] <OldPink> stefg: What do you mean by "/you/" ? *clicks link*
[06:27] <OldPink> gerro: That's beyond me I'm afraid. :P
[06:27] <Genomsaren> what do you mean with restricted?
[06:27] <gerro> OldPink: ext3 modes, swappiness, boot methods, standby modes, network windowing adjustments and protocols, processor optimizations, loads of stuff to tweak up
[06:27] <Don64> go to offtopic
[06:27] <mzanfardino> I've just completed the installation of Ubuntu Feisty and upgraded the system via apt-get update/upgrade.  After the initial install I could log in to the GUI (as expected).  However, since the apt-get update/upgrade when I log instead of Nautilas loading I get a blank (brown) screen.  I can use Ctrl-Alt-Fx to load a TTY terminal.  What might have happened to my WM?
[06:27] <dr_willis> !info restricted-manager
[06:27] <ubotu> restricted-manager: manage non-free hardware drivers. In component main, is optional. Version 0.20 (feisty), package size 32 kB, installed size 300 kB
[06:28] <Crnd> So 1.4GHz Celeron M and 256MB of memory should be enough for running ubuntu on my laptop?
[06:28] <Op3r> Hello Im having a problem with the desktop effects on ubuntu because it seems it says cannot enable desktop effects :(
[06:28] <Jack_Sparrow> namit|work: Gave you two progs that would do what you want... I suggest you go look for yourself
[06:28] <dr_willis> Crnd,  yes. Ive ran on less..
[06:28] <Inuyaga> well the nvidia-glx driver
[06:28] <dr_willis> Crnd,  more ram would be a big help however.
[06:28] <stefg> OldPink: it's a local german thing... so out of reach for you, and you won't like a qwertz -keyboard
[06:28] <OldPink> Op3r: What graphics controller you using?
[06:28] <Zpeidar> How do I disable mouse-tap on my touchpad (PowerBook)
[06:28] <gerro> OldPink: http://blog.lxpages.com/2007/04/24/ubuntu-performance-guides/ here maybe give this a read
[06:29] <Op3r> OldPink, its an ATI onboard from my sony vaio laptop :(
[06:29] <Inuyaga> also dose anyone know where to get a xserver-xorg with debugging in it???????
[06:29] <Inuyaga> mabe a .ddeb?
[06:29] <Zpeidar> from source
[06:29] <logreeval> i can get into Failsafe terminal so i can do commands.........
[06:29] <gerro> OldPink: older laptops had to get the most out of every piece of hardware to be able to function unlike newer computers, so they usually benefit most
[06:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Some_Person: I find it odd that your max res is 1024....
[06:29] <OldPink> stefg: Ah right. Was looking for that GB flag. :(
[06:29] <OldPink> gerro: *click* Thanks, I'll bookmark it for if I ever get this laptop. That your blog?
[06:30] <Some_Person> JackSparrow: 1024x768 is what i want
[06:30] <gerro> OldPink: I got nah but I wish I knew who posted it
[06:30] <Op3r> OldPink, maybe I should stop using Ubuntu studio theme?
[06:30] <Genomsaren> Inuyaga: and I couldnt install the driver it said Xserver is running and I tried to stop and start the xserver
[06:30] <Some_Person> JackSparrow: so i dont really care about that
[06:30] <chadeldridge> does anyone know if it is possible to make Evolution display the calendar on the same page as the email like in outlook 2007, it would be nice to have an overview of my meetings and such without switching back and forth all the time
[06:30] <Genomsaren> Inuyaga: maybe the prblem is ther
[06:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Some_Person: my 5200 will do 1440
[06:30] <Zpeidar> Is there any way to disable touchpad-tapping?
[06:30] <namit|work> Jack_Sparrow: k will do
[06:30] <Crnd> dr_willis, 512MB would be much better or should I even go for 1GB? Is there much difference between those? I'll mostly just be coding a bit (not compiling), browsing the internet, chatting and other lightweight things...
[06:31] <Some_Person> Jack_Sparrow: mine does too, in windows, but not in ubuntu
[06:31] <OldPink> Op3r: I doubt the Ubuntu Studio theme is it. You're better off going into #compiz-fusion to ask
[06:31] <Inuyaga> Genomsaren: "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" then run the install
[06:31] <OldPink> gerro: Ah right OK, thanks anyway. I'll skim read it now
[06:31] <Inuyaga> note that will kill xwindows
[06:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Some_Person: Right.. driver issue..  did you read through the tutorial on the wiki
[06:31] <Some_Person> Jack_Sparrow: no
[06:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !nvidia
[06:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:32] <stefg> Crnd: 512 MB is the sweet spot for ubuntu... mor is better, of course, but gnome, firefox, and an ide fit neatly in half a gig
[06:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Some_Person: Sorry the quick easy way didnt work
[06:32] <numus> kinda upset trillian doesn't work in linux.. i pay for a subscription
[06:32] <Inuyaga> yes follow that guide
[06:32] <Some_Person> Jack_Sparrow: its not your fault
[06:32] <chadeldridge> numus:  me too ...
[06:32] <leks> Some_Person, sorry had some internet troubles
[06:32] <logreeval> please, i can go into failsafe terminal, but i cant seem to edit the /etc/network/interfaces what happens is it is just blank, but no command, not really sure what to do
[06:32] <Some_Person> leks: thats ok
[06:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Some_Person: nvidia usually work without a problem
[06:32] <OldPink> crnd sounds like you're in the same spot as me. Trying to choose between 256 and 512 :P
[06:32] <leks> Some_Person, still around?
[06:33] <Some_Person> leks: yes
[06:33] <Inuyaga> logreeval: what is your problem? what are you trying to do?
[06:33] <logreeval> i am trying to login to ubuntu, iut doesnt work
[06:33] <leks> Some_Person,  you are on feisty right?
[06:33] <fm> hi
[06:33] <Some_Person> leks: correct
[06:33] <Crnd> OldPink, well my laptop already has 256 but i'm just wondering if i should double that... would also help me with windows quite much.
[06:33] <Inuyaga> how descriptive
[06:33] <Inuyaga> ok
[06:34] <logreeval> Inuyaga what happens is the screen goes to the brown like it is starting, then a white box comes up
[06:34] <Inuyaga> what is the first problem that you encounter?
[06:34] <Inuyaga> ok
[06:34] <fm> I'm curious, could someone point me to a good newbie tutorial on assembly language?
[06:34] <Jack_Sparrow> leks: I will follow along and hopefully learn something as well
[06:34] <leks> Some_Person, and you installed the driver through the restricted manager?
[06:34] <Inuyaga> you need to disable the splash
[06:34] <Some_Person> leks: correct
[06:34] <OldPink> Crnd: Ah, just the person I need then! How is 256 treating you on Ubuntu?
[06:34] <Inuyaga> so you can see the bootup sequence
[06:34] <coopster> I know there are tools like Explore2fs and ext2/3 drivers for windows, but is there any utility that would let me read files from an EXT3 drive in windows that don't require administrator privileges?
[06:34] <logreeval> Inuyaga ok, how do we start?
[06:35] <leks> Some_Person, you are just in a plain X session?
[06:35] <Inuyaga> during bootup before grub auto loads hit escape
[06:35] <leks> no XGL or anything?
[06:35] <Inuyaga> and get into the menu
[06:35] <Crnd> OldPink, haven't installed ubuntu yet :) wondering if i should first get more memory
[06:35] <Some_Person> leksk: i guess
[06:35] <Inuyaga> then on the first entry or which ever one you set to default
[06:35] <stefg> coopster: no, because that requires a driver (so kernel space). Youn try explore2fs , tho
[06:35] <Inuyaga> hit e to edit it
[06:35] <Genomsaren> Inuyaga: thanks and do you mean with install the driver of nvidia right?
[06:35] <logreeval> ok
[06:35] <Inuyaga> Genomsaren: yes if you have a nv card that is
[06:35] <Squiur> # Appears as BOLO
[06:36] <Inuyaga> logreeval: then
[06:36] <Inuyaga> once you have it up in edit
[06:36] <numus> is there a gaim chat or can i aska  question about giam in here?
[06:36] <Inuyaga> there should be a line like
[06:36] <Some_Person> leks: yes
[06:36] <Inuyaga> quiet
[06:36] <Inuyaga> select and delete that line by hitting d
[06:36] <logreeval> ok
[06:37] <Inuyaga> then select the line that starts with kernel.....
[06:37] <leks> Some_Person, where did u get these 6 fps?
[06:37] <Inuyaga> and hit e
[06:37] <dnisse> does there exist any good standalone pager for X?
[06:37] <Some_Person> leks: glxgears
[06:37] <logreeval> ok
[06:37] <Inuyaga> then scroll over and delete the words
[06:37] <Inuyaga> silent and splash
[06:37] <Inuyaga> or quiet
[06:37] <Inuyaga> any of thoes words
[06:37] <leks> Some_Person, what does lsmod | grep nv reveals?
[06:37] <Inuyaga> leave evreything else alone
[06:37] <Op3r> OldPink, ok it works for me now. I removed the xorg-driver-fglrx
[06:37] <logreeval> ok
[06:37] <Inuyaga> then hit enter
[06:37] <Inuyaga> then b to boot
[06:38] <logreeval> ok
[06:38] <vox754> !enter | Inuyaga
[06:38] <ubotu> Inuyaga: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:38] <Some_Person> leks: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29255/
[06:38] <Inuyaga> if evreything went ok it should show the startup info
[06:38] <Inuyaga> kk sry
[06:38] <logreeval> Inuyaga what shall i do with the info
[06:38] <Selrach> excuse me, I am having issues with my audio. could someone help me?
[06:39] <leks> Some_Person, did you issue a reboot?
[06:39] <stefg> !intelhda | Selrach
[06:39] <ubotu> Selrach: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[06:39] <Inuyaga> well you should see either errors or some point it will stop loading. come back with that info and mabe we can figure it out
[06:39] <Some_Person> leks: since i installed the driver? yes, many times. i installed it months ago
[06:39] <logreeval> thanks Inuyaga
[06:39] <Selrach> my motherboard is for AMD processors though
[06:39] <Inuyaga> Selrach: which video card do you have?
[06:39] <leks> Some_Person,  OK
[06:39] <logreeval> Inuyaga BRB
[06:39] <Crnd> btw can someone tell me if broadcom bcm 4318 wlan card works well in ubuntu or not...
[06:39] <Inuyaga> kk
[06:39] <Selrach> whats vidoe card got to do with my audio card? O_o
[06:39] <chadeldridge> does anyone know if it is possible to make Evolution display the calendar on the same page as the email like in outlook 2007, it would be nice to have an overview of my meetings and such without switching back and forth all the time
[06:40] <stefg> Selrach: have you installed athcool for any reason?
[06:40] <Selrach> i dont think so
[06:40] <leks> Some_Person, did you ever try any other glx applications?
[06:40] <switchcat> When I first set up ubuntu, there was an option to transfer accounts (and I assume home directories) over to the new system from other drives/accounts/etc. I didnt have the drives hooked up then, but I do now.. how can one re-start that process?
[06:40] <Selrach> i'm using whatever kubuntu installed mainly
[06:40] <stefg> Selrach: so what's the issue?
[06:40] <Some_Person> leks: no
[06:40] <Inuyaga> Selrach: do this. cat /proc/asound/cards
[06:40] <Selrach> my sound no longer works, i logged out and back in.
[06:40] <Inuyaga> tell s the sound card you have
[06:40] <Some_Person> leks: all the screensavers are choppy/laggy though
[06:41] <stefg> !doesnt work | Selrach
[06:41] <ubotu> Selrach: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[06:41] <leks> Some_Person,  I see
[06:41] <Selrach> 00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Contro
[06:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Selrach: do you have anything else using the sound cark.. sky or ?
[06:41] <leks> Some_Person, what happens if you do rmmod nvidia ?
[06:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Selrach: skype
[06:41] <Selrach> i'm using kubuntu...
[06:41] <Some_Person> leks: and Microsoft Hover in Crossover is very slow too
[06:41] <Inuyaga> ok you have a older AC97. there whould be two lines. whats the second line?
[06:41] <Crnd> Anyone running broadcom's wlan cards with ubuntu here?
[06:41] <Op3r> Ok i guess video still sucks even if you enable desktop effects on ubuntu feisty :(
[06:41] <Selrach> hrm'
[06:41] <Inuyaga> Crnd: I have a bcm
[06:42] <Some_Person> leks: ERROR: Module nvidia is in use
[06:42] <Crnd> Inuyaga, what model?
[06:42] <stefg> Selrach: try sudo killall esd ... sound dead after that still ?
[06:42] <Selrach> actually my MB manual says my
[06:42] <bashi> hey all, in my browser (firefox) whenever i go to a website which has back round music (in midi format) a bar appears across the top saying additional plug-ins required to display all media on this page. does anybody know what the plug-in is? thanks.
[06:42] <Selrach> audio chipset is realtek ALC65
[06:42] <gomez01> can somebody tell me how i completly remove a package config files and all
[06:42] <SaltyMule> Hey all the system letters are boxes
[06:42] <Selrach> 655
[06:42] <Inuyaga> Crnd: 4xxx someting. it does not work. Im working on fixing the drivers my self.
[06:42] <Selrach> hrm
[06:42] <Selrach> lets see
[06:42] <gomez01> sudo apt-get remove seems to be keeping config files
[06:42] <Inuyaga> Selrach: thats your issue
[06:42] <Crnd> hmm... that's a bad thing for me. I'd really need wlan :\
[06:43] <Inuyaga> Realtek sorta sucks
[06:43] <Selrach> It worked when i first installed
[06:43] <stefg> Selrach: that's i810 compatible audio , as found in many nForce chipsets. Hardware should be no problem
[06:43] <Selrach> :|
[06:43] <Inuyaga> Im haveing issues with mine as well
[06:43] <logreeval> Inuyaga there was a fail for configure network cards, but then it went to the login screen, i tried to login and nothing happens
[06:43] <Selrach> maybe timidty broke it
[06:43] <Selrach> meh
[06:43] <leks> Some_Person, did you have the same problem with edgy before?
[06:43] <Crnd> Inuyaga, http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/bcm43xx <- seen that site already?
[06:43] <Inuyaga> logreeval: interesting
[06:43] <Selrach> at least I got my ATI card to work
[06:44] <SaltyMule> Hey, I have a bit of a problem here, none of the fonts are displaying correctly
[06:44] <Selrach> man that thing is a *****
[06:44] <Some_Person> leks: i dont think i ever used the restricted nvidia driver in edgy
[06:44] <Selrach> next time i'm getting nvidia
[06:44] <Selrach> :|
[06:44] <gomez01> dpkg -P :)
[06:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Selrach: How did you get the ati to work?
[06:44] <Selrach> i installed fglrx using envy
[06:44] <leks> Some_Person, have you been with nv ?
[06:44] <Inuyaga> Crnd: I think mines one of the unsupported...
[06:44] <DShepherd> gomez01, he
[06:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Selrach: Ah.. a problem begins to appear
[06:44] <Some_Person> leks: thats probably what i used in edgy
[06:45] <logreeval> Inuyaga is there a command to "reset" the /etc/network/interfaces thing?
[06:45] <maeth> hi, anybody knows a little of iptables?
[06:45] <Selrach> what do you mean?
[06:45] <DShepherd> gomez01, apt-get remove --purge <package>
[06:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !envy
[06:45] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[06:45] <Some_Person> leks: but even in edgy nv wont let me get 85hz (which i want)
[06:45] <Selrach> why?
[06:45] <Crnd> Inuyaga, too bad. My card is one of the partially supported ones. Works but not well :\
[06:45] <Inuyaga> logreeval: well the network issues are most likely do to config or dhcpcd errors
[06:45] <DShepherd> gomez01, sorry i took so long to answer i was eating mangos
[06:45] <Selrach> when i used restriced before, it kept saying that mesa was my opengl driver
[06:45] <Inuyaga> Crnd: tiz why im working on the driver my self ^_^
[06:45] <leks> Some_Person, ya thats probably because of the non-internal memory
[06:46] <Some_Person> leks: yeah, thats why i installed the restricted driver
[06:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Selrach: Envy and Automatix are very bad things to use.  They do things we cant/wont take the time to undo.
[06:46] <logreeval> Inuyaga so what do you think i should do?
[06:46] <Selrach> like what?
[06:46] <Inuyaga> logreeval: which login system are you using?
[06:46] <logreeval> Inuyaga what do you mean?
[06:46] <Inuyaga> logreeval: passewd, ldap, others?
[06:46] <zipper> Jack_Sparrow, great when they actually do work though. Easy for the newcommers
[06:47] <Selrach> someone care to explain what problems envy can cause?
[06:47] <logreeval> Inuyaga i dont know...its just at the ubuntu login screen
[06:47] <Jack_Sparrow> zipper: They are NEVER a good idea
[06:47] <chadeldridge> selrach:   ever install that app in windows that totally hoses your system about 80% of the time ... envy does that
[06:47] <zipper> not yet
[06:47] <zipper> hopefully they will be
[06:47] <zipper> in time
[06:47] <Selrach> I never used envy in windows
[06:47] <zipper> :D
[06:47] <leks> Some_Person, what does "sudo dpkg -l | grep nv" output?
[06:47] <Inuyaga> logreeval: Ok you use passwd then. :P anyway it just freases you say? Did you try logging in as root?
[06:48] <Selrach> ...?
[06:48] <Jack_Sparrow> zipper: Easyubuntu used to have the same problems but is now bteer and somewhat accepted
[06:48] <logreeval> Inuyaga i havent tried root, should i?
[06:48] <Unix-Jihad> ive never used envy, but i wouldnt say automatix was bad
[06:48] <daquino> why is there no /etc/modules.conf ?
[06:48] <Flare183> What do you do when ISOLINUX tells you that "Image checksum error sorry..."?
[06:48] <Selrach> does envy ruin linux installs though...?
[06:48] <Jack_Sparrow> yep
[06:48] <kravlin> Does Ubuntu support the SSE Instruction set? (I have absolutely no idea what it is but apperently i need it)
[06:48] <Some_Person> leks: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29258/
[06:48] <Selrach> in what way? i don't notice anything wrong with my system
[06:48] <Selrach> I removed it after I used it
[06:49] <Inuyaga> logreeval: well im thinking its a local config issue. if you can log in as root and not as ur user then you have a bad config.
[06:49] <Unix-Jihad> its use is mentioned in enough "my perfect ubuntu install........." type articles
[06:49] <logreeval> Inuyaga i will try root then
[06:49] <Inuyaga> logreeval: do you have your root password set? do #sudo passwd to set it
[06:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Selrach: I dont intend to discuss it.. removing it does NOT fix the problems left behind
[06:50] <askand> Why do I get "No DHCPOFFERS received." when I try to connect to my router with cable?
[06:50] <logreeval> Inuyaga i have it as my own password
[06:50] <Selrach> so should I just reinstall from scratch and take my chances with restricted?
[06:50] <kravlin> Does Ubuntu support the SSE Instruction set? (I have absolutely no idea what it is but apperently i need it)
[06:50] <chadeldridge> restricted
[06:50] <gsevil> have anyone use dictconv to convert babylon glossary to edict?
[06:50] <leks> Some_Person, can you install "nvidia-settings"
[06:50] <Inuyaga> logreeval: ok that woks as long as you can log in as root
[06:50] <Some_Person> leks: sure
[06:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Selrach: I would.. but feel free to see if someone in #envy can help
[06:51] <Selrach> rofl #envy is a ghost town
[06:51] <Some_Person> leks: ok, its installed
[06:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Selrach: Well supported product..
[06:51] <chadeldridge> because most people that installed it shot themselves shortly after
[06:51] <kravlin> Does Ubuntu support the SSE Instruction set? (I have absolutely no idea what it is but apperently i need it)
[06:51] <leks> what happens if you start it?
[06:51] <Flare183> What do you do when the computer says this: "ISOLINUX: Image Checksum Error Sorry..."?
[06:51] <gsevil> have anyone used dictconv to convert babylon glossary to edict?
[06:52] <logreeval> Inuyaga "The system adminstrator is not allowed to login from this screen"
[06:52] <Inuyaga> ok
[06:52] <gomez01> is there a gnome gui for kismet and aircrack-ng?
[06:52] <Inuyaga> logreeval: you need to edit the gdm conf. /etc/conf.g/gdm i think
[06:52] <Some_Person> leks: it removed the package "nvidia-glx" by the way
[06:52] <Inuyaga> nm /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[06:52] <varanasib> Hi, I have a gentoo system I am trying to replace with ubuntu, but the ubuntu installer sees no partitions on my reiser-formatted hd.  any help?
[06:53] <leks> Some_Person, did it install anything additionally?
[06:53] <kravlin> Does Ubuntu support the SSE Instruction set? (I have absolutely no idea what it is but apperently i need it)
[06:53] <Inuyaga> find the line. AllowRoot=false
[06:53] <logreeval> Inuyaga ok, through failsafe terminal?
[06:53] <gomez01> does anybody know free site survey software on ubuntu?
[06:53] <Inuyaga> no do it with a normal one
[06:53] <Flare183> What do you do when the computer says this: "ISOLINUX: Image Checksum Error Sorry..."?
[06:53] <leks> kravlin, sure
[06:53] <logreeval> Inuyaga which is....?
[06:54] <gsevil> have anyone use dictconv to convert babylon glossary to use with stardict?
[06:54] <askand>  Why do I get "No DHCPOFFERS received." when I try to connect to my router with cable?
[06:54] <Inuyaga> not failsafe. normal session
[06:54] <Lunar_Lamp> Flare183, that means that there is an error with the disk.
[06:54] <blind> Okay, I bought and installed UT2004, and after the nVidia intro, it just goes to a blank screen. I can hear the music playing in the background, and I can hear the menu items when I move my mouse, so I can assume it's running, I just can't see it. Can anyone help me out?
[06:54] <kravlin> leks: do i need to install anything to make it work? I get an error that states either my procesor or my os doesnt support it.
[06:54] <Flare183> Lunar_Lamp:>which disk the HD or the CD-ROM?
[06:54] <Lunar_Lamp> askand, is your router configured to be a DHCP server?
[06:54] <Inuyaga> askand: is the router dhcp enables?
[06:54] <logreeval> Inuyaga i cant get into normal session
[06:54] <sam_> leks: after i installed it i accidently restarted X
[06:54] <gomez01> does anybody know free site survey software on ubuntu?
[06:54] <Inuyaga> so it still locks uo
[06:54] <gsevil> have anyone use dictconv to convert babylon glossary to use with stardict?
[06:54] <Inuyaga> up
[06:54] <rociom> hola
[06:54] <Lunar_Lamp> Flannel, the CDrom that I assume you're booting from? :-)  Probably something went wrong when it was being burnt.
[06:54] <askand> Lunar_Lamp: Inuyaga: yes I got an ip on my xpcomputer
[06:54] <Some_Person> leks: i cant get GDM to start!
[06:54] <lassegs> Im really having trouble finding out if anyone at all has gotten the nvidia8600gt working with Ubuntu. Anyone know anything about it? :)
[06:55] <gsevil> Did someone use dictconv to convert babylon glossary to use with stardict?
[06:55] <rociom> hola de donde
[06:55] <logreeval> Inuyaga yes, i cant seem to do anything with it
[06:55] <adrimoya> a
[06:55] <adrimoya> ola
[06:55] <Inuyaga> logreeval: try doing a dpkg-reconfigure on gnome if you can do that... <_<
[06:56] <leks> some_preson what did you do?
[06:56] <gsevil> does somebody know how to convert Babylon glossary to use with stardict?
[06:56] <Unix-Jihad> reiser
[06:56] <leks> kravlin, what tells you this
[06:56] <gsevil> does somebody know how to convert Babylon glossary to use with stardict?
[06:57] <Jack_Sparrow> !repeat
[06:57] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:57] <psnel> echo
[06:57] <kravlin> leks: I was sent the message by a valve team member while trying to run a Counter-Strike: Source Dedicated server ( I sent them an error log)
[06:57] <Flare183> Lunar_Lamp:>which disk the HD or the CD-ROM?
[06:58] <darwin81> How can I completely erase a hard drive and check it for errors?
[06:58] <leks> kravlin, what did he mean by SSE? sse may mean several things
[06:58] <logreeval> Inuyaga i cant get into gnome, best is terminal
[06:58] <kravlin> he just said SSE Instruction set
[06:58] <logreeval> Inuyaga i tried it in terminal and it said specify package to reconifugre
[06:58] <Lunar_Lamp> Flannel, the CDrom that I assume you're booting from? :-)  Probably something went wrong when it was being burnt.
[06:58] <Some_Person> leks: i got GDM back up
[06:58] <kravlin> The Source engine currently requires the SSE instruction  set, make sure both your OS and CPU support it.  - Alfred
[06:58] <kravlin> that's what they sent me
[06:58] <Lunar_Lamp> Flare183, the CDrom that I assume you're booting from? :-)  Probably something went wrong when it was being burnt.
[06:58] <fblade1987> is there any video editing software for ubuntu?
[06:58] <Lunar_Lamp> (sorry, right nick this time)
[06:58] <leks> Some_Person, how?
[06:59] <Flare183> Lunar_Lamp:>that's ok
[06:59] <Some_Person> leks: by reinstalling nvidia-glx
[06:59] <Some_Person> leks: thus removing nvidia-settings
[06:59] <blind> fblade1987: tons. check freshmeat.net
[06:59] <blind> Okay, I bought and installed UT2004, and after the nVidia intro, it just goes to a blank screen. I can hear the music playing in the background, and I can hear the menu items when I move my mouse, so I can assume it's running, I just can't see it. Can anyone help me out?
[06:59] <Some_Person> leks: the 2 refuse to coexist peacefully
[06:59] <leks> kravlin, cpus have these extensions since 1997
[06:59] <Inuyaga> logreeval: figured
[06:59] <Flare183> Lunar_Lamp:>but I don't understand it is the same disk that I used to install this distro I using now. and it didn't say that
[06:59] <cesargalera_> wenas
[06:59] <Inuyaga> logreeval: did you ever do anything funny to any of the gnome conf files?
[06:59] <leks> Some_Person, weird, im no nvidia user actually
[06:59] <Lunar_Lamp> Flare183, hmm, perhaps it is scratched?
[06:59] <cesargalera_> ola
[07:00] <cesargalera_> eeee
[07:00] <Some_Person> leks: wait, but the nvidia-settings program is still here
[07:00] <kravlin> leks: I figured something like that. that's why i thought it might be ubuntu
[07:00] <cesargalera_> el k
[07:00] <leks> Some_Person, what kernel are you running?
[07:00] <logreeval> Inuyaga ....what are those?
[07:00] <Flare183> nope boots on here as live cd just like it is suppose to but on the other computer it doesn't
[07:00] <leks> oh
[07:00] <Some_Person> leks: how do i check?
[07:00] <Jack_Sparrow> leks: what about pulling glx agian but then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:00] <Luc_Aylesbury> {cc:#kubuntu} Hi Folks, is anyone aware of a means to change the default file handler from konqueror to dolphin?
[07:00] <leks> uname -a
[07:00] <Inuyaga> logreeval: most likely not then
[07:00] <Liquinn> jeez
[07:00] <cesargalera_> wenas
[07:00] <Liquinn> busy in here
[07:00] <Liquinn> ;P
[07:00] <fblade1987> any in particular that i should use though
[07:00] <kravlin> Leks: I ran a version of this on Fedora once with no problems. I prefer ubuntu though.
[07:00] <estiven> l
[07:01] <goofey> brokenthorn: i looked in the aptitude man pages - can't find the "show installed" option
[07:01] <cesargalera_> k ace feto
[07:01] <Inuyaga> logreeval: what does your ~/.xsession-errors say?
[07:01] <gsevil> is build-essential enough to compile a source program?
[07:01] <leks> Jack_Sparrow, dpkg-reconfigure only gives you a reliable config for an opensource grafic card
[07:01] <Flare183> Lunar_Lamp:>nope boots on here as live cd just like it is suppose to but on the other computer it doesn't
[07:01] <cesargalera_> aaaaa aaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa
[07:01] <logreeval> um, let me check...
[07:01] <Some_Person> leks: and the gears look right!
[07:01] <estiven> lo k tu no acessssssssssssssssssssssss
[07:01] <Some_Person> leks: 8736 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1747.178 FPS
[07:01] <Studiosus> hi, all! remind please what env var makes nautilus create files with local encoding, not in utf8, very needed!
[07:01] <Lunar_Lamp> Flare183, hmm, odd, is the cd-rom drive dodgy? Perhaps old? I'm not sure
[07:01] <leks> Some_Person, cool
[07:01] <Some_Person> i think all it needed was a reinstall
[07:02] <leks> Some_Person, I guess your xorg config wasnt set up properly
[07:02] <LuiCal> please help i need to remove ubuntu ce script
[07:02] <LuiCal> can somebody help me
[07:02] <Flare183> Lunar_Lamp:>well it is kinda old and it is only 4x so maybe
[07:02] <Some_Person> leks: but i didn't touch the xorg config
[07:02] <askand> Why do I get "No DHCPOFFERS received." when I try to connect to my router with cable? I have dhcpserver started.
[07:02] <logreeval> Inuyaga dont know how to get ther in terminal..
[07:02] <leks> Some_Person, but nvidia config probably did that for you
[07:02] <Some_Person> and my screensaver looks perfect now
[07:02] <Stwange> hey, I've recently made the switch to linux but I'm feeling a bit out of place. Is there a program I can download that will make my computer crash every now and then?
[07:02] <Lunar_Lamp> Flare183, I had anissue the other day with an old cdrom drive (16x I think) not beign able to complete theinstall - would always freeze at some point - put ina decent cdrom drive and it worked fine.
[07:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Some_Person: that is a better number..
[07:03] <leks> kravlin, thats no packages, thats part of a compiler
[07:03] <OldPink> Stwange, why?
[07:03] <Inuyaga> logreeval do #cd ~; then #less ./.xsession-errors
[07:03] <Some_Person> Also, my resolution goes way higher
[07:03] <leks> kravlin, all ubuntu packages should be built with SSE
[07:03] <LuiCal> olease help me i need to remove ubuntu ce and all of its traces
[07:03] <Flare183> Lunar_Lamp:> well ok I'll have to ask my cousin because I'm the one who is repairing it for him
[07:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Some_Person: after pulling glx and restarting you just did dpkg ?
[07:04] <LuiCal> can someone help me removing that script
[07:04] <LuiCal> ?
[07:04] <LuiCal> please help
[07:04] <Some_Person> Jack_Sparrow: i installed nvidia-settings, which for some reason removed nvidia-glx
[07:04] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[07:04] <Jack_Sparrow> but to get back into gdm
[07:04] <Some_Person> Jack_Sparrow: So I restarted X (stupid me) and it wouldnt start up again
[07:04] <OldPink> dr_willis, Ubuntu Christian Edition. Load of crap for all the religious-crazy people out there
[07:04] <kravlin> leks: any other ideas why they would say that then?
[07:04] <Some_Person> Jack_Sparrow: So I reinstalled nvidia-glx via command line
[07:05] <Some_Person> and it magically works
[07:05] <Jack_Sparrow> what was the line so I can keep it handy
[07:05] <Some_Person> Jack_Sparrow: line?
[07:05] <logreeval> Inuyaga i will try
[07:05] <Jack_Sparrow> dpkg nvidia-glx ?
[07:05] <leks> kravlin, are you playing it through wine?
[07:05] <OldPink> Can't believe a bloody religion stole the initials of what could have been Compact Edition.
[07:05] <retarded-brb> help :( !
[07:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Some_Person: Sorry trying to work on my notepad at the same time
[07:06] <Some_Person> Jack_Sparrow: to reinstall nvidia-glx? It was not installed, so i used apt-get
[07:06] <LuiCal> ubuntu ce is a christian version of ubuntu, originally i had ubuntu installed on my machine and i downloaded the script and installed but that messed up my settings and brougth a few errors to my machine
[07:06] <kravlin> leks: No. Its a dedicated server that runs on linux.
[07:06] <LuiCal> i need to remove that script
[07:06] <LuiCal> can someone help me removing it
[07:06] <LuiCal> ?
[07:06] <dr_willis> LuiCal,  id ahve to say check the CE web site.
[07:07] <retarded-brb> could anyone tell me how to fix the boot record without using the windows cd (i cant do a repair due to not knowing the default admin password)
[07:07] <SaltyMule> Is there a way to reinstall fonts in ubuntu
[07:07] <LuiCal> they dont say anything about uninstalling
[07:07] <crocodile> when I have compiz running, all movies played in VLC (fullscreen) are transparent.  I tried changing the output  modules but nothing changes
[07:07] <dr_willis> LuiCal,  bummer.. good luck.
[07:08] <logreeval> Inuyaga nothing happens
[07:08] <dr_willis> LuiCal,  removeing the script is trivial.. UNDOING what it did.. is the hard part. :)
[07:08] <blind> Okay, I bought and installed UT2004, and after the nVidia intro, it just goes to a blank screen. I can hear the music playing in the background, and I can hear the menu items when I move my mouse, so I can assume it's running, I just can't see it. Can anyone help me out?
[07:08] <Inuyaga> odd
[07:08] <LuiCal> the script only installed a few programs
[07:09] <kravlin> leks: No idea?
[07:09] <HorizonXP> hey
[07:09] <HorizonXP> i can't find kdar in Feisty
[07:09] <HorizonXP> i need a front-end for dar
[07:09] <HorizonXP> if there's a gnome one, that'd be awesome
[07:09] <dr_willis> LuiCal,  fire up the package manager and uninstall them then.. i guess..
[07:09] <logreeval> Inuyaga is there anything to reset the network thing? /etc/network/interfaces
[07:09] <LuiCal> you say synaptic??
[07:09] <Inuyaga> well that depends
[07:10] <ferronica> how to open Multiple RAR file in ubuntu Fiesty Fawn ?
[07:10] <Inuyaga> you say the network interfaces is blank?
[07:10] <dr_willis> i use unrar
[07:10] <dr_willis> !rar
[07:10] <fr33z> hi, anyone here got some experience with getting atheros chipset wifi working in feisty? i'm having trouble getting it to work with encrypted network
[07:10] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[07:11] <dr_willis> LuiCal,  whatever package manager ya like. they all do the same stuff.. :)
[07:11] <logreeval> sorry, Inuyaga ?
[07:11] <Inuyaga> the /etc/network/interfaces is blank?
[07:11] <basvg> hey all, I just borrowed a WD external harddisk (usb, type = wd1200u017) ... any clues on how to get that to work on feisty? nothing shows up in demsg or /var/log/messages when I plug it in
[07:11] <logreeval> Inuyaga no, i just edited it...
[07:11] <trafa> hello all
[07:12] <trafa> Anyone can tell me ... where I can found a list of md5sum for 7.04?
[07:12] <logreeval> Inuyaga when i try to do "sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[07:12] <logreeval> nothing happens...
[07:12] <EK_> Installing Feisty on an Inspiron 6000, over a current install of Breezy Badger, complete wipe. I am getting errors regarding the partitioning that I dont quite understand.
[07:12] <SaltyMule> Hey, guys, how do I reset my font path
[07:13] <leks> kravlin, have you googled?
[07:13] <SaltyMule> Where is that variable stored?
[07:14] <crocodile> when I have compiz running, all movies played in VLC (fullscreen) are transparent.  I tried changing the output  modules but nothing changes
[07:14] <ferronica> how to open Multiple RAR file in ubuntu Fiesty Fawn ?
[07:14] <vox754> EK_, boot the live CD, use GParted and wipe out the partitions yourself. The recreate them. It is good when you don't need to backup and just can wipe out everything.
[07:14] <raphael_> \list
[07:14] <logreeval> Inuyaga are you still with me?
[07:14] <HorizonXP> hey guys i have a 14gb directory i wanna backup to several DVDs.. how woudl i do that?
[07:15] <Inuyaga> logreeval: yes
[07:15] <vox754> !backup
[07:15] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[07:15] <will851> HorizonXP, try splitting it up onto multiple dvds?
[07:15] <nesssy> are there any mailing lists available for ubuntu?
[07:15] <LukeEkblad> Hello
[07:15] <HorizonXP> will851: yeah, how wouldi do that?
[07:15] <EK_> Will I be aquiring GParted through Synaptic?
[07:15] <Inuyaga> logreeval: the problem is you dont have gui and the primary tool seems to be network-admin which is gui
[07:16] <vox754> nesssy, look up in the main ubuntu page, there in the documentation section you'll find a few mailing lists along with the forums and this channel.
[07:16] <nesssy> thanks vox. i'll do that
[07:16] <logreeval> Inuyaga well...there has to be a non gui way, right?
[07:16] <simon__> hi. i need help. I don't get any sound from my pc speakers. got a notice about restricted drivers when i booted and accepted everything. Am running feisty
[07:16] <LukeEkblad> I have a problem.  When I use beryl and try to maximize a window, it only maximized to half the screen or less
[07:16] <simon__> pls. help. I need sound
[07:16] <will851> HorizonXP, i guess you'd use gnomebaker or similar to make up the discs
[07:17] <Inuyaga> logreeval: yes there is I can walk you through what to type. we do this in PM
[07:17] <vox754> EK_, GParted can be used from the Live CD, no need to install it. It is already loaded when you get to the desktop, just run it.
[07:17] <logreeval> i need to register my nick then
[07:17] <EK_> I will try that, thank you.
[07:17] <logreeval> Inuyaga how do i register my nick?
[07:17] <zpertee> can anyone help me configure sendmail?
[07:17] <Inuyaga> type /ns REGISTER passwd
[07:17] <vox754> !register | logreeval
[07:17] <kravlin> leks: I tried. I didn't get any information on Ubuntu. I just started the computer and i'm about to vnc into it to check out the Processor
[07:17] <ubotu> logreeval: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[07:18] <LukeEkblad> I have a problem, my sound quality is really bad now that i installed ubuntu.  Can somebody pleas help me?
[07:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !nvidia
[07:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:18] <fblade1987> need help, how can i change my default resolution for some reason when ever i get to the loggin screen the res is at 1920x1080 but i dont want it at that i need it at 1440*900
[07:18] <ferronica> how to open Multiple RAR file in ubuntu Fiesty Fawn ?
[07:18] <DJ-_-> hi I need help setting my screen refresh rate to 60hz but it is not available in the screen resolution...which file do i edit?
[07:18] <dr_willis> ferronica,  i use 'unrar'
[07:18] <dr_willis> !info unrar
[07:18] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.7.3-1 (feisty), package size 94 kB, installed size 228 kB
[07:18] <dr_willis> !rar
[07:18] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[07:18] <HorizonXP> will851: this HomeUserBackup looks perfect.. how do I install it?
[07:18] <dr_willis> ferronica,  unrar x whatever.r01 or whatever the first archive is
[07:18] <gomez01> anybody know airtraf?
[07:19] <gomez01> i'm trying to compile under ubuntu but getting error
[07:19] <simon__> hi. i need help. I don't get any sound from my pc speakers. got a notice about restricted drivers when i booted and accepted everything. Am running feisty
[07:19] <ferronica> dr_willis: i tried extract here, it asking for password there is no password
[07:20] <fblade1987> anyone?
[07:20] <dr_willis> ferronica,  if the rar archive is password protected... well.. you need to find its password.
[07:20] <erUSUL> !sound | simon__
[07:20] <ubotu> simon__: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:20] <dualcha0s> hey im having issues with beryl could i get somehelp
[07:20] <dr_willis> !beryl
[07:20] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:20] <will851> HorizonXP, i'm not sure where you got that from?
[07:20] <dr_willis> byee all.. work time for me.
[07:20] <HorizonXP> ubotu gave me the link
[07:20] <IceLink> Hey there. is it possible to do that all files saved or created in a specific directory are 770?
[07:20] <will851> HorizonXP, are you looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHomeBackup
[07:20] <ferronica> dr_willis: there is no password i am sure my fried downloaded same file with no problem
[07:21] <HorizonXP> yup
[07:21] <IceLink> by default
[07:21] <HorizonXP> wait no
[07:21] <HorizonXP> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup
[07:21] <fblade1987> need help, how can i change my default resolution for some reason when ever i get to the loggin screen the res is at 1920x1080 but i dont want it at that i need it at 1440*900
[07:21] <skirk> I have install FGLX driver, but now I want remove it. How I can?
[07:21] <mhz`> in setting up a vpn, it asks for a gateway..would that be  the gateway for the vpn or of my router?
[07:21] <Anlar> fblade1987: what display adapter?
[07:21] <bashi> hay all, i just got firefox to play midi files but the sound is slow and scratchy and indefinite any body know how to sure up the sound or is it just my computer. thanks
[07:22] <simon__> how do i find out which sound card and other hardware i have
[07:22] <fblade1987> ati radeon x1650 pro
[07:22] <corentin> Bye all
[07:22] <dualcha0s> anyone that understands beryl and could help me it would be great
[07:22] <fblade1987> when on my user profile the display just how i wanted it
[07:22] <crocodile> how do I make VLC open movies in the same window rather than opening a new instance?
[07:23] <erUSUL> simon__: lspci, lsusb, lshw on !cli
[07:23] <Agent_Orange> Can you burn CDs from an ubuntu bootdisk?
[07:23] <sue47> how do i move some icons ive downloaded to the /usr/share/pixmaps  directory?  not too sure how to temporarily change permissions from the terminal
[07:24] <skirk> !ubotu ati
[07:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:24] <erUSUL> simon__: System>Admin>hw info
[07:24] <bretzel> Where is KDevelop-3.4.1???
[07:24] <erUSUL> !info kdevelop
[07:24] <ubotu> kdevelop: An IDE for Unix/X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 8594 kB, installed size 26204 kB
[07:24] <bretzel> not 3.4.0 -- 3-4-1
[07:24] <erUSUL> !latest | bretzel
[07:24] <ubotu> bretzel: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[07:25] <sue47> skirk:  i dont think that ati link has been updated yet. there are new ati drivers but they wont get put in the fiesty repos only the gusty ones
[07:25] <bashi> agent_orange: yea could work but it will be be really slow but it would probobly work.
[07:25] <Riddell> bretzel: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php
[07:26] <will851> HorizonXP, sudo apt-get install hubackup
[07:26] <slavik> what is the linux equivalent of the freebsd gstat utility?
[07:26] <skirk> sue47, so?
[07:26] <skirk> : /
[07:26] <erUSUL> slavik: what gstat shows/do?
[07:26] <slavik> erUSUL: hdd activity
[07:26] <EK_> Hm, GParted is also producing errors. Unable to read dev/sda/, asking me to unmount it to a device in order to access it.
[07:26] <bretzel> erUSUL: Sorry but 3.4.1 is far more stable than 3.4.0, I returned from Pclinuxos and I am now using a misture of Mint.Ubuntu and Kubuntu ( :-) ) but as it was with *ubuntu, kdevelop 3.4.0 still crashes , I did get kdevelop 3.4.1 and is more stable, cannot find it anymore why ?
[07:27] <simon__> now i've tried debugging and still i get no sound
[07:27] <bretzel> \misture mixture*
[07:27] <bretzel> misture mixture*
[07:27] <sue47> shirk ill give you the link to the new drivers if you want. the old ones were just slightly buggy. x would sometimes crash on log out or switch users
[07:27] <jetsaredim> anyone know if there's a package with the utility rpm2targz?
[07:27] <erUSUL> bretzel: maybe it was backported and you need to add the kubuntu-backports or something
[07:27] <skirk> sue47, ok. Thank ;)
[07:28] <CarmenSandiego> I've read some confusing things about the shred command in linux. On the one hand it sounds like a good utility for file shredding, but then I hear things about how it doesn't work properly for the ext3 format? Surely there's got to be a reliable method. I'm looking mainly for something that shreds free space.
[07:28] <bretzel> announce doesn't have 3.4.1, I just upgraded from KDE3.5.6 to 3.5.7, and no KDevelop .3.4.1
[07:28] <ferronica> dr_willis:  ????
[07:28] <HorizonXP> will851: awesome! thanks man
[07:28] <ruth> Hello, i just did http://images.google.de/images?q=ubuntu .... Does the first picture really represent Ubuntu?
[07:28] <sue47> http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/Testing/fglrx-8.37.6-Feisty/
[07:29] <skirk> oky
[07:29] <ruth> I mean, wtf?
[07:29] <bretzel> I don't understand why, because my experiences with 3.4.0 is so a mess, it was very smooth with 3,4,1 tho
[07:29] <ruth> What does that picture have to do with the spirit of Ubuntu?
[07:29] <erUSUL> slavik: maybe vmstat ??
[07:29] <slavik> nope
[07:29] <simon__> i can't get any sound. I have tried debugging on ubuntuforums. I have checked the alsamixer and everything
[07:30] <Hibame> Any people good with lvm around, I cant seem to create a physical volume with pvcreate, it tells me it was successfully created but when I extend it says its not there
[07:30] <Agent_Orange> ruth: tubgirl warning please?
[07:30] <sue47> you will notice the files are in the testing directory that is because they wont get put in the fiesty repos and bryce made then mainly for those fiesty users needing the fix
[07:30] <erUSUL> ruth: that's not an official picture. world is full of idiots (and inet is no exception)
[07:31] <kravlin> leks: Or i could fail to figure out which device was my processor all together.
[07:31] <stefg> CarmenSandiego: what are you trying to prevent? the ext3 filesystem is actually pretty safe, no working undelete-feature (so no shredder necessary). with journalled filesystems there's always some track of what has been done, so a backup and restore of all files would be necessary to prevent real forensic analysis
[07:32] <real> hi.. is there any kind of way to change the ubuntu feisty top-panel icon, i have try some tips that i found on google, but the icon wont change, anyone knows how?
[07:32] <erUSUL> slavik: the io column shows the blocks read and writen to filesystem iirc
[07:32] <kravlin> which device in the device manager is the processor?
[07:32] <slavik> erUSUL: gstat does it in realtime for all hdd activity
[07:33] <EK_> "The kernel is unable to re-read the following partitiontables on the following devices: - /dev/sda"
[07:33] <kravlin> wow. That last comment makes me feel very stupid.
[07:33] <pENdr4gON> Hi all
[07:33] <real> anyone?
[07:34] <bashi> simin_:try this site it should be of some help http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/sound.htm
[07:34] <Anlar> CarmenSandiego: it doesn't work properly as on ext3 there are no real guarantees that you are actually re-writing to the same spot. but at the same time the talk that forensics wouldn't work is utter bs.
[07:34] <leks> ;)
[07:35] <CarmenSandiego> Anlar: "forensics wouldn't work" is bs? Explain?
[07:35] <ernst> hi
[07:35] <Death_Sargent> I need wifi help
[07:35] <bashi> my bad that post was for simon
[07:35] <pENdr4gON> Hi
[07:35] <ernst> where is there a freetalk channel with lot of people?
[07:36] <Death_Sargent> I can't connect to my home wifi network
[07:36] <Anlar> CarmenSandiego: well, deleting something.. it actually either gets overwritten very fast or not etc.. but in principle the data doesn't get instantly overwritten or anything for good. and, if you play with the big boys some further issues raise.
[07:36] <eloque> #kubuntu
[07:36] <Death_Sargent> have been able to before hand
[07:36] <Death_Sargent> just now I can't
[07:36] <Death_Sargent> its only this one network I own
[07:36] <erUSUL> slavik: i found about blktrace
[07:36] <Death_Sargent> other ones in the neighbor hood surounding me work fine
[07:36] <real> hi.. is there any kind of way to change the ubuntu feisty top-panel icon, i have try some tips that i found on google, but the icon wont change, anyone knows how?
[07:37] <Anlar> CarmenSandiego: there's nothing in the design of ext3 that would guarantee overwriting
[07:37] <sayers> PriceChild, heyo
[07:37] <erUSUL> slavik: and iostat
[07:37] <Death_Sargent> !wifi
[07:37] <kravlin> I need help with finding out my processor. The deivce manager is kinda hard for me to understand (No experience with it).
[07:37] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:37] <ernst> when you see this word:   "evaarties"  what's the first thing that comes to mind?
[07:37] <craigbass1976> parties with eva
[07:37] <Anlar> CarmenSandiego: just finding the proper data from all that crap and figuring out whether it was overwritten by mistake by some other activities means a lot work
[07:38] <donspaulding> ernst: seitraave
[07:38] <CarmenSandiego> Anlar: And I thought linux was supposed to be more secure than Windows... over on that OS I've got a program that overwrites all my free space 35 times with a random Guttmann algorithm, after a couple of mouse clicks
[07:38] <ernst> nice one donspaulding :)
[07:39] <donspaulding> I'm silly like that
[07:39] <Anlar> CarmenSandiego: yes, but the point is.. do you really NEED to do that? the answer is usually no. and it takes resources to do that
[07:39] <fblade1987> i've just updated the ati driver and to fiesty but for some reason the res. has get to big for my monitor how can i change it? i have managed to change it for the main user session but not for main login screen any help me?
[07:39] <ernst> hehe
[07:39] <stefg> CarmenSandiego: if the NSA decides to put your harddisk platters under the electron-microscope, they'll find /something/. so the only real safe thing is using an encrypted fs, or rewriting the fs completly.
[07:39] <erUSUL> kravlin: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[07:39] <Unix-Jihad> CarmenSandiego, and that data is stilll recoverable with the correct equipment
[07:39] <Anlar> CarmenSandiego: stefg's point is valid. and yes, you can encrypt practically everytthing, especially if youuse usb stick for the actual booting
[07:39] <petervk> stefg: CarmenSandiego: or destroying the actual platters in a fire
[07:39] <EK_> Aw piss, screwing with GParted fucked my laptop.
[07:39] <fblade1987> anyone
[07:39] <kravlin> thanks
[07:40] <EK_> Oficially screwed.
[07:40] <PriceChild> !ohmy | EK_
[07:40] <ubotu> EK_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:40] <Anlar> petervk: fire rarely works, you need at least thermite and lots of it.. you'd be amazed of all the hdds from building fires that they have been able to save..
[07:40] <pENdr4gON> I have finaly removed Windows from my laptop today...
[07:40] <Neil3> pENdr4gON, congrats
[07:40] <petervk> fblade1987: I just got here, can you restate the question?
[07:41] <fblade1987> petervk: i've just updated the ati driver and to fiesty but for some reason the res. has get to big for my monitor how can i change it? i have managed to change it for the main user session but not for main login screen any help me?
[07:41] <simon__> bashi: i m to newbie to understand everything on that site you gave me. I need more help to debug my sound problem
[07:41] <donspaulding> pENdr4gON: welcome aboard!
[07:41] <CarmenSandiego> Anlar: encrypting my whole HDD would be a bit of a pain in the ass though... guess that's the way it's got to be. So I'm bleeding my usage history all over my ubuntu partition every time I use it... interesting.
[07:41] <pENdr4gON> Strange how when ever I reinstall Windows it's a major operation, ubuntu clean install took only a few mins
[07:41] <Anlar> CarmenSandiego: actually what they don't talk about is that READING data enforces the trait on the platters. you first write random data and then read it, it's even better for getting rid of that ghost image on the disk than writing... faster and more efficient
[07:41] <kravlin> anyone know if the AMD Athelon 64 3000+ supports SSE instructions?
[07:42] <vox754> EK_, seems like your drive is dead. Don't blame GParted.
[07:42] <petervk> Anlar: Really? Thats pretty cool. Smashing them with a hammer should work, as long as you spread the pieces around. Or just don't put that kind of information on the computer in the first place...
[07:42] <mrsno> kravlin it does, and some sse2 i believe, check wikipedia for athlon 64
[07:42] <petervk> fblade1987: aw crappy. Sorry, not my area. Keep asking.
[07:42] <Neil3> kravlin, yes it does
[07:42] <mrsno> sse3 on some too
[07:42] <fblade1987> ok thnks
[07:42] <Anlar> petervk: they were built to widthstand a lot of g forces (hey, they are spinning titanium etc discs!).. they can take a lot hits..
[07:42] <vox754> kravlin, "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[07:43] <EK_> vox: GRUB produced Error 17 after I attempted to reboot after formatting.
[07:43] <Cenema158> I need some help. When I try to boot 7.04 ubuntu or kubuntu, it gives me the following error message: /bin/shL Can't access tty: Job control turned off. I know the discs aren't bad because I have sucessfully tried them on a few computers. Anyone know what is wrong?
[07:43] <SpeakerMania> I am having some issues with mounting my NTFS hard drive into read/write mode. It only mounts into read only right now. I have to enter my password for it to even mount. Can anyone help?
[07:43] <EK_> Sorry, im new to this, I know it hurts to hear a newbie.
[07:43] <Anlar> petervk: they do sell "paper shredder" alike devices though that chew complete computers. yes, laptops and desktops. just throw in and small pieces and dust fly from the other end..
[07:43] <simon__> Here is my problem: I get no sound. My specs are: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03). I have an Acer Travelmate 2420 running feisty. Does anybody know what i can do.
[07:43] <DJ-_-> how do i kill X and bring it back
[07:43] <nitalaut> SpeakerMania, ntfs-3g
[07:43] <SpeakerMania> I have it.
[07:44] <DJ-_-> i want to reload the xorg.conf
[07:44] <Anlar> petervk: it's one of those WEEEHAAAA moments of your life when you see it actually happen :D
[07:44] <Agent_Orange> DJ-_-: ctrl+alt+backspace
[07:44] <simon__> my sound worked fine until right now
[07:44] <Cenema158> I need some help. When I try to boot 7.04 ubuntu or kubuntu, it gives me the following error message: /bin/shL Can't access tty: Job control turned off. I know the discs aren't bad because I have sucessfully tried them on a few computers. Anyone know what is wrong?
[07:44] <vox754> EK_, well, formatting won't boot a system, you need to install GRUB. I assume that you ran the Feisty installer?
[07:44] <SpeakerMania> nitalaut: I also have the config thing.
[07:44] <DJ-_-> Agent_Orange: bring it back?
[07:44] <petervk> Anlar: ok. thats what we need. Or truecrypt with 4096 bit keys
[07:44] <Anlar> CarmenSandiego: it's not that much of work to encrypt really everything, and in really secure way.. but the point indeed is, that practically no one NEEDS that
[07:44] <Agent_Orange> DJ: that does bring it back..
[07:44] <nitalaut> SpeakerMania, does it give any errors while mounting ?
[07:44] <DJ-_-> Agent_Orange: it kills also?
[07:44] <SpeakerMania> nitalaut, no
[07:44] <Agent_Orange> DJ: yes
[07:45] <CarmenSandiego> Well to be honest is *is* more of a hobby, I don't really 'need' to encrypt anything. But that's not really the point, I'm doing a bit of a project atm where I'm trying to make my laptop bullet-proof regarding data safety. It's funny that linux is actually less secure with this than windows, despite popular belief to the contrary.
[07:45] <nitalaut> what is the mount command output then ?
[07:45] <DJ-_-> Agent_Orange: tx
[07:45] <Anlar> CarmenSandiego: windows doesn't really by default encrypt / shred anything either. and building that feature even manually all by yourself isn't hard, to encrypt everything
[07:45] <vox754> petervk, Anlar CarmenSandiego, off topic!
[07:45] <Agent_Orange> carmensandiego: when people think secure, data recovery isn't the first thing that comes to mind
[07:45] <erUSUL> CarmenSandiego: you can encrypt your home and the swap partition that's all the security you need
[07:45] <petervk> CarmenSandiego: Less secure? How so? I've hacked a few windows machines with just a knoppix disc.
[07:46] <bluefox83> does anyone know where i can find a good tutorial on how to remove duplicate entries from my menus? i found one tutorial that tells me to remove applications.menu but wheni do that not only does it list duplicates, but it also lists everythign i could possibly ever get installed on my system...reguardless of whether or not i have ever installed them...
[07:46] <Anlar> vox754: bs. his project is to harden his ubuntu, and it's not off-topic you shitwad
[07:46] <stefg> CarmenSandiego: uhoh.... you err there. it's just that data loss is much more common on windows :-). NFTS journals, too
[07:46] <petervk> bluefox83: just right click on the allpications and hit "edit menu"
[07:46] <petervk> bluefox83: correction: applications.
[07:46] <bluefox83> petervk, we're talking several HUNDRED entries here
[07:47] <Agent_Orange> guys, I'm trying to do a fresh install of ubuntu but the disk freezes when loading... 0 checksums fail in the error check
[07:47] <preaction> !ohmy | Anlar
[07:47] <ubotu> Anlar: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:47] <Anlar> CarmenSandiego: if you wish I might have some notes still somewhere on how to build that encryption for ubuntu manually :)
[07:47] <petervk> bluefox83: how did that happen?
[07:47] <bluefox83> petervk, if you think i am gonna sit for over an hour to fix that, you're out of your damn mind
[07:47] <EK_> vox: I ran the Feisty installer, and I could not get past the partitioning stage, I am installing this over a previously installed copy of Breezy Badger. Someone reccomended using GParted to whipe the partitions manually and then re-build them in order to do the install, somewhere along the way I messed up and now it will not boot back into Breezy Badger.
[07:47] <bluefox83> petervk, i removed my applications.menu file like a tutorial suggested
[07:47] <petervk> bluefox83: woah buddy, just trying to help.
[07:48] <vox754> Anlar, what? You are insulting people? Please that is a general discussion/development, what do I know. Please move to the offtopic channel.
[07:48] <bluefox83> sorry i got carried away >.>
[07:48] <bluefox83> this has been a problem that just wont go the hell away
[07:48] <CarmenSandiego> Anlar: Thanks, I'll look into it. I've got truecrypt on at the minute, but I don't know if you can set that particular program to automount in the required way
[07:48] <bluefox83> no one seems to have a good solid way to fix it
[07:48] <nitalaut> guysG
[07:48] <nitalaut> oops)
[07:49] <simon__> noone can help me fix a sound problem... well well
[07:49] <Anlar> CarmenSandiego: the alternative you might be interested of goes by the name dm-crypt or md-crypt or something like that :)
[07:49] <EK_> So now I've booted back into the LiveCD, going to try and fix the partitioning problem from there to complete this install.
[07:49] <EK_> I only paid $200 for this laptop, so Im not too worried about what I do to it :P
[07:50] <petervk> bluefox83: did you do something to make this happen?
[07:50] <msb> ok
[07:50] <CarmenSandiego> ok, thanks
[07:50] <vox754> EK_, I recommended that. Because that is what I thought you were trying to do! Obviously if you tried to install on top, and moved partitions around you cannot boot the previous Ubuntu.
[07:50] <nitalaut> Guys, my feisty eats lots of swap(at the same time about 60% of RAM is free). Is it possible to force it fill all of the RAM first and only after that start using swap ?
[07:50] <bluefox83> petervk, the only thing i did was remove the applications.menu file
[07:50] <EK_> vox: Ahaaa, yes that does make sense.
[07:50] <bluefox83> it SHOULD just regenerate a list of applications
[07:50] <Anlar> CarmenSandiego: basically the main problem you have is that if you got an os to boot on the hdd, it has to be unencrypted at the beginning.. and handle the keys etc.. that's vulnerable. by moving the first phase of booting the computer to usb stick that you use only for some 10-30s when you boot and remove from the system later, mostly eliminates those problems.. as when unplugged it is completely braindead and invulnerable
[07:51] <petervk> nitalaut: http://www.serbuntu.net/ubuntu/tips/swappiness
[07:51] <petervk> bluefox83: yeah. That sounds like the correct solution. There may be something in /etc overriding it.
[07:51] <nitalaut> petervk tried it with no luck
[07:52] <CarmenSandiego> I see. So essentially I'd be building a USB booter that does the initial 'unlocking'
[07:52] <torhu> in ubuntu, can I log in as root so I don't have to type the password all the time?  su doesn't seem to work
[07:52] <bluefox83> petervk, shoudl i just go in and uninstall everything that has to do with any sort of menus or what?
[07:52] <petervk> nitalaut: did you restart?
[07:52] <nitalaut> yes
[07:52] <nitalaut> many times )
[07:52] <MelonenGuu> Hey, I have a network-card in my computer, and a built in Ethernet connector on my mother-board... can I plug Internet into the motherboard and then share the connection via the network-card?
[07:52] <cap> What is the most recommended program for writing music CDs?
[07:52] <nitalaut> i put it into sysclt
[07:53] <nitalaut> sysctl
[07:53] <Anlar> CarmenSandiego: yes. all it has to have really is 1) grub 2) kernel 3) initrd script that finds the hdd parition(s), asks for password, decrypts the actual encryption keys, mounts the partitions, pivot_roots, continues from the now decrypted hdd
[07:53] <torhu> anyone know the default root password on wubi 7.04?
[07:53] <torhu> empty pass doesn't work
[07:53] <Anlar> CarmenSandiego: vmware + ubuntu alternate installation disc are your best friends there :)
[07:53] <nitalaut> MelonenGuu, yes you can
[07:53] <MelonenGuu> How?
[07:53] <petervk> bluefox83: Well that might work. What did you do that caused this? were you upgrading distros?
[07:54] <EK_> The installer as of right now is only giving me the choice of manually partitioning the disk. I have the two options of /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda5/ as swap. I have to specify a root file system.
[07:54] <vox754> torhu, yes you can activate the root account but in general it is not recommended. Try using "sudo -s" to get a root terminal.
[07:54] <petervk> nitalaut: I really don't know.
[07:54] <bluefox83> petervk, actually no, the original reason i did it was because i couldn't get enlightenment to generate any menus...
[07:54] <vox754> !root | torhu
[07:54] <ubotu> torhu: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[07:54] <petervk> bluefox83: you using enlightment?
[07:54] <MelonenGuu> nitalaut: how?
[07:55] <bluefox83> petervk, i use it once in a while to see how E17 is coming along...
[07:55] <bluefox83> petervk, but i usually use gnome
[07:55] <newb> hey can someone answer a question fo rme
[07:55] <newb> ?
[07:55] <nitalaut> MelonenGuu, use iptables
[07:55] <bluefox83> petervk, am using gnome now
[07:55] <Anlar> newb: don't ask to ask, just ask!
[07:55] <petervk> bluefox83: So you recreated everything in the menu so it would show up in enlightnment?
[07:55] <MelonenGuu> !iptables
[07:55] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[07:55] <Agent_Orange> In all reality, is it possible to sign on as root?
[07:55] <newb> oh ok
[07:55] <nitalaut> MelonenGuu, read about NAT with iptables
[07:55] <simlav> ciauz
[07:55] <vox754> EK_, just wipe everything as unallocated space, then save, then rebuild manually the partitions.It is simple http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/7356/part00cs6.png
[07:55] <newb> well i am windows user and i am thining of trying linux
[07:55] <Anlar> Agent_Orange: yes, the account just is disabled. but you shouldn't.. it's bad habit
[07:55] <digital1> has anyone here ever used mondo?
[07:56] <newb> but i wanted to know wha ti would need to be setup?
[07:56] <digital1> I can't get it to restore anything
[07:56] <bluefox83> petervk, actually no..what i originally did was remove /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu THAT really fubar'ed my system...
[07:56] <newb> or if i can get some tips on linux
[07:56] <blubloblu> newb: get the desktop cd off the ubuntu.com website
[07:56] <Agent_Orange> anlar: I know, I'm just saying that ubotu is just misleading >_>
[07:56] <newb> i got that cd downloaded
[07:56] <Anlar> newb: well, download the installation cd and boot off it. it is also at the same time a livecd, so you can see what it will contain after installation and what hardware will works etc.. it's a good playground for you
[07:56] <bluefox83> petervk, i didn't have any correct menus in any window environments after that...
[07:56] <EK_> vox754: Thanks. Whats the best way to whipe everything as unallocated space?
[07:56] <blubloblu> newb: did you try it out?
[07:57] <vox754> EK_, GParted I told you.
[07:57] <newb> no i have not tried it out i am gonna try it on my laptop first
[07:57] <petervk> bluefox83: Yeah. it sounds like you did screw it up.
[07:57] <EK_> Ah, right.
[07:57] <newb> is using linux better?
[07:57] <bluefox83> petervk, i was following a tutorial then too...
[07:57] <blubloblu> newb: you should, to get a feel for ubuntu and to see if your hardware works well
[07:57] <petervk> bluefox83: A reinstall would probably fix everything up nice.
[07:57] <blubloblu> newb: http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/
[07:57] <Anlar> newb: it depends on your preferences. some love, some hate. only trying it out will really tell.
[07:57] <newb> well i am using a dell and i saw a youtube video runnin on the same laptop
[07:57] <bluefox83> petervk, this is linux, not windows..there should be another solution...
[07:57] <newb> i am very impressed with what i saw
[07:58] <petervk> newb: Just download the *.iso and try it out.
[07:58] <Anlar> newb: less games and such, but some things are way better. it's a matter of preference really
[07:58] <petervk> bluefox83: Yes. Your right. I guess I don't really know how to help. good luck!
[07:58] <Agent_Orange> new: If you're a gamer, stick with PC, or dual boot windows and ubuntu like me
[07:58] <newb> thanks guys
[07:58] <Anlar> newb: and when you boot the livecd, you can really try everything out with it without having to install. including temporarily instaling applications!
[07:58] <newb> but i was told i can install wine to play my games??
[07:59] <petervk> newb: Some games will work in wine, but not all.
[07:59] <cap> What is the best proggram for writing audio CDs?
[07:59] <bluefox83> newb, some games run in wine, some don't
[07:59] <Anlar> newb: some games work, some do not. the most common ones usually work because so many ask for them :)
[07:59] <mhz`> you can use wine..it's a win32 emulator
[07:59] <newb> sorry guys i am a total linux noob
[07:59] <petervk> cap: I like Brasero
[07:59] <blubloblu> newb: there are guides for installing the eye-candy: search for beryl and compiz. They are now merging into Compiz Fusion which is being alpha testing now (complicated, i know!)
[07:59] <bluefox83> mhz`, windows API layer >.>
[07:59] <Anlar> mhz`: it's not emulator :( I hate splitting hair but if it was emulating it would be slowwwer
[07:59] <newb> yeah that was the video i saw
[07:59] <newb> beryl is awesome
[07:59] <blubloblu> newb: search http://appdb.winehq.org/ to see how well wine runs your game
[08:00] <newb> what is compizfusion?
[08:00] <bluefox83> blubloblu, uhm..compiz-fusion is out...i'm using it...
[08:00] <petervk> newb: It sure is. But beryl is not around anymore. it's now called compiz fusion
[08:00] <mhz`> i can't decide what movie to watch :(
[08:00] <Anlar> newb: you can even try the games off your windows hdd with the livecd with some patience..
[08:00] <blubloblu> bluefox83: is there an official release yet? or is it just alpha stuff
[08:00] <Hibame> Do I need a /dev/Ubuntu/scratch folder for lvm?
[08:00] <EK_> Just reading up on how to use GParted, this is sort of my first day :P
[08:00] <bluefox83> blubloblu, uhm..i don't recall but i think it's official..it's in a ubuntu repo now...
[08:01] <blubloblu> bluefox83: oh, cool
[08:01] <petervk> newb: Anlar: Yes but performance will not be the same as actually installing.
[08:01] <Anlar> true
[08:01] <bluefox83> blubloblu, although i do get updates on it all the time...so it might still be in beta...
[08:01] <newb> hmmm
[08:01] <petervk> blubloblu: It's on the gusty iso's
[08:01] <newb> i can live with that
[08:01] <newb> as long as my warcraft 3 works which i heard does
[08:01] <newb> i am happy
[08:01] <Anlar> newb: wc3 works, aye
[08:01] <mhz`> lol :)
[08:01] <roger25> hello
[08:01] <petervk> newb: Yeah. Warcraft 3 works great.
[08:02] <Anlar> I've played it as well :)
[08:02] <bluefox83> has anyone else had the issue of being able to see through a movie when watching in fullscreen with compiz turned on?
[08:02] <newb> i mainly juss want to get rid of windows
[08:02] <petervk> newb: What kind of video card do you have?
[08:02] <newb> i have a geforce 6800 nvidia
[08:02] <blubloblu> newb: yeah, forget viruses with linux
[08:02] <vox754> EK_, GParted is graphical interface, it is not hard to use. Just click on a partition and delete it. Then recreate the partition with new, and selecting ext3 filesystem. I you can't make it to work, then you may as well give the laptop... to me.
[08:02] <newb> REALLY
[08:02] <newb> no viruses?
[08:02] <newb> wtf
[08:02] <petervk> newb: Don't be too quick to blow away your windows right away, setting up a dual boot is better for beginners.
[08:02] <vox754> EK_, another picture http://img398.imageshack.us/my.php?image=part01zo9.png
[08:02] <Anlar> newb: I guess.. like 1-2 academic viruses that never took off. in history. :)
[08:02] <blubloblu> newb: i think there's some proof of concept stuff but otherwise nothing bad
[08:02] <petervk> newb: No viruses
[08:03] <newb> well i have my laptop and 2 desktops
[08:03] <bluefox83> newb, warcraft folks have varying degrees of success with wine...some people can get it to work really really well..others can't get it to launch...
[08:03] <newb> i was thining of trying it on the laptop
[08:03] <jimcooncat> Trying to run a windows app (qb 2004 pro) with crossover. App opens then quits. Where can I find a log as to what's happening in the background?
[08:03] <blubloblu> newb: nothing that can do any damage
[08:03] <petervk> newb: Nvidia cards are great. I asked because wine -> warcraft 3 will need open gl.
[08:03] <newb> war3 can run in opengl mode
[08:03] <newb> i juss have to add the -opengl line to the executable
[08:04] <petervk> jimcooncat: you could try launching the application from the terminal
[08:04] <hylje> wine d3d is great. compared to opengl renderer (wc3) it was just slightly slower
[08:04] <EK_> vox: Thank you.
[08:04] <jimcooncat> petervk: I am, but no output
[08:04] <SaltyMule> my operating system fonts aren't displaying. How do I fix that?
[08:04] <mhz`> anyone recommend a good jabber client?
[08:04] <petervk> newb: Exactly. you'll have to do that to get it to launch in wine.
[08:04] <hylje> you may not notice it without trying!
[08:04] <MattJ> mhz`, Gajim is good
[08:04] <newb> wow you guys are so great
[08:04] <vox754> !offtopic | newb use the offtopic channel when you just want to chat
[08:04] <ubotu> newb use the offtopic channel when you just want to chat: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:04] <petervk> jimcooncat: ahh. sorry.
[08:05] <hylje> petervk: on modern computers d3d wc3 works playably.
[08:05] <newb> ok thanks
[08:05] <newb> ubotu
[08:05] <newb> sorry
[08:05] <vox754> !thanks | newb
[08:05] <newb> thanks guys for the tips
[08:05] <jimcooncat> petervk: I'm looking for some kind of verbose switch or wine log
[08:05] <ubotu> newb: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[08:05] <petervk> hylje: Really? sweet. I used opengl before and it worked good for me.
[08:05] <newb> oh yeah
[08:05] <newb> whos the bot owner?
[08:05] <newb> peter may i pm u?
[08:06] <petervk> jimcooncat: I'm not really a wine expert.
[08:06] <mhz`> ok matt, i'll give it a go
[08:06] <petervk> newb: Me?
[08:06] <newb> ok guys i am gonna give ubuntu a try
[08:06] <petervk> mhz`: I like gaim/pigdin.
[08:06] <newb> oh wait one more question
[08:06] <mhz`> i have pigdin
[08:06] <newb> about the install
[08:06] <uberushaximus> pigin
[08:06] <mhz`> but see, i work for a windows hosting company
[08:06] <newb> pidgin is great btw
[08:06] <uberushaximus> *pidgin
[08:06] <petervk> newb: shoot
[08:06] <mhz`> i dual boot into xp for work
[08:06] <newb> ok what is xgl?
[08:07] <blubloblu> newb: please don't use spaces as punctuation
[08:07] <uberushaximus> !xgl | newb
[08:07] <ubotu> newb: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:07] <Anlar> newb: xgl is something that comes with the system.. don't worry about that :)
[08:07] <mhz`> i'm trying to setup my vpn to connect & connect to their jabber setup
[08:07] <petervk> newb: technology to enable the effects with beryl/compiz fusion
[08:07] <newb> oh ok
[08:07] <petervk> newb: nothing you have to worry about.
[08:07] <newb> so like a prereqiusite for beryl?
[08:07] <Death_Sargent> I can't connect to my home wifi network even though I could in the past.
[08:07] <MattJ> mhz`, Gajim is good, and it works on Windows too
[08:08] <bluefox83> newb, you wont be running beryl, you'll likely be running compiz-fusion
[08:08] <Death_Sargent> I have been at this for days
[08:08] <Death_Sargent> please help
[08:08] <petervk> newb: sort of. It's all automatic now so you don't have to mess with xgl
[08:08] <mhz`> i use pidgin on windows for my AIM and Spark on windows to connect to work's jabber
[08:08] <newb> i kinda like how beryl looked
[08:08] <newb> that multi desktop is amazing option
[08:08] <Anlar> newb: yeah, but first get the system otherwise running before worrying about that stuff.. feisty comes out of the box with compiz which might be enough for you already.. it's not as good as beryl but does the most important tricks of it, and without any special tricks
[08:08] <jmitchj> hey guys, is there any way to get DIVX to play in Feisty?
[08:08] <petervk> newb: compiz fusion is beryl, just a different name and more effects
[08:08] <bluefox83> Death_Sargent, whats the problem?
[08:08] <MattJ> mhz`, and the problem?
[08:09] <newb> ok so which ubuntu should i try? 6.10 or 7.04?
[08:09] <leku> hey
[08:09] <Death_Sargent> bluefox83: mysteriously for some reason I can't connect to my home network
[08:09] <Anlar> newb: 7.04.
[08:09] <petervk> jmitchj: install all the restricted extras + w32 codecs
[08:09] <Death_Sargent> bluefox83: I could before but I can't now
[08:09] <leku> how come it always takes me at least two tries to get on my wireless wpa network?
[08:09] <leku> is there anything I can do to fix it
[08:09] <bluefox83> Death_Sargent, did you do a system update or something?
[08:09] <petervk> newb: definitely 7.04
[08:09] <newb> where can i get 7.04?
[08:09] <Death_Sargent> bluefox83:just for compiz and such
[08:09] <steel_lady> IS THERE SOME SCIENTIFIC CALCULATOR WITH PRE-MERORIZED PHYSICAL CONSTANTS LIKE OLD hp CALCULATORS?
[08:09] <newb> and this compizfusion?
[08:09] <blubloblu> leku: what wireless card do you have?
[08:09] <jmitchj> petervk: in synaptic?
[08:09] <leku> let me check
[08:09] <Death_Sargent> bluefox83: the last new headers I got where for the linux ati driver
[08:10] <leku> broadcom dell wireless 1390 wlan mini-pci card
[08:10] <petervk> newb: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[08:10] <fr33z> anybody got the ahteros chipset wifi working here?
[08:10] <leku> windows always connects to my net right away
[08:10] <newb> peter i can download 6.10 on taht page
[08:10] <n2diy> steel_lady: menu > apps > acces > calculator?
[08:10] <newb> brb lemme look one more time.
[08:10] <Anlar> steel_lady: qalculate might
[08:10] <daan> fr33z: out of the box
[08:10] <leku> also the only way i can connect is if i use the gnome wireless tool and select connect to other network
[08:10] <petervk> jmitchj: easier in the add/remove programs utility at the bottom of the applications menu
[08:10] <Death_Sargent> bluefox83: I;am not aware of any updates that are related to my built in atheros wifi card
[08:10] <bluefox83> Death_Sargent, i'm not really all that knwoledgable about wireless...so i'm not all that certain what you can do...does ubuntu show a signal at all?
[08:10] <fr33z> weird, i had to installmadwifi to get something working
[08:10] <newb> nvm
[08:10] <leku> if I do create new wireless network it only shows me the options for wep, not wpa2
[08:11] <daan> fr33z: what type?
[08:11] <newb> peter > woah nvm it changed from 6.10 to 7.04
[08:11] <Death_Sargent> bluefox83: not from that one router
[08:11] <petervk> fr33z: Atheros working here.
[08:11] <blubloblu> leku: i've found this tutorial, try it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092
[08:11] <fr33z> i have a macbook core2duo, hoped it would go well with feisty but till now it doesnt :(
[08:11] <leku> k thx
[08:11] <leku> brb
[08:11] <petervk> fr33z: out of the box support, its great
[08:11] <Death_Sargent> bluefox83: it shows connection from other networks hwoever
[08:11] <bluefox83> Death_Sargent, are you certain the router is on?
[08:11] <fr33z> u guys use the madwifi driver for atheros?
[08:11] <vily> oi
[08:11] <daan> fr33z: Mine is AR5005G 802.11abg NIC
[08:11] <MelonenGuu> hmm
[08:11] <leku> I've followed that tutorial
[08:11] <leku> I am on teh network
[08:11] <daan> fr33z: yes as far as i know
[08:11] <leku> it's just shady
[08:11] <newb> also guys is ther anything extra tinker i need to do for my router and modem to work with linux?? is it all like plug in play?
[08:11] <Death_Sargent> bluefox83:yes I am wired to it right now as the wifi is not coperating
[08:11] <Anlar> steel_lady: I thing qalculate! actually has most of them
[08:11] <daan> fr33z: what is your type when you check lspci?
[08:11] <petervk> newb: yo, quote my whole username if your talking just to me.
[08:12] <Death_Sargent> bluefox83: lights on and all
[08:12] <pdm_> HI i need information about compiz fusion...
[08:12] <newb> petervk : ok
[08:12] <vily> oi
[08:12] <bluefox83> Death_Sargent, can you log into the router and see if the wireless is turned off somehow? maybe a small power surge turned it off?
[08:12] <petervk> newb: thanks.
[08:12] <MelonenGuu> If I use firestarter to make a share connection trough another network card, do I need to set something else up? .. like .. DHCP stuff and such
[08:12] <vily> oi
[08:12] <Dennyss> OI
[08:12] <steel_lady> anlar thanx, I am installing it right now
[08:12] <Dennyss> TUDO BEM ?
[08:12] <vily> oi
[08:12] <Death_Sargent> bluefox83: I have poked around and if it is off I would love to know why the other computers on the network can obtain wireless conection
[08:13] <fr33z> daan: it says: network controller:atheros communications inc. unknown device 0024(rev 01)
[08:13] <vily> dennys kd vc?
[08:13] <blubloblu> pdm: installation instructions?
[08:13] <daan> fr33z: hmm
[08:13] <Anlar> newb: depends on the modem really.. if it's some usb adsl modem then you might be in for problems.. but it's easiest to just run the livecd and test out :) and come here telling what happened
[08:13] <bluefox83> Death_Sargent, that is kinda odd...
[08:13] <vily> kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[08:13] <petervk> fr33z: oh dear.
[08:13] <fr33z> with madwifi drivers i seem to be able to scan APs and stuff but using wpa supplicants doesnt work strangley
[08:13] <Dennyss> VEER
[08:13] <fr33z> petervk: oh dear?
[08:13] <bluefox83> Death_Sargent, does the router have a blacklist?
[08:13] <jmitchj> petervk: hmmm...seems the gstreamer plugins are installed for divx...but they still won't play
[08:13] <blubloblu> pdm_: installation instructions?
[08:14] <Hibame> How do I change to a dir only root can access
[08:14] <pike__> Death_Sargent: the only thing i typically have to do is install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) for atheros
[08:14] <vily> oi
[08:14] <Death_Sargent> bluefox83: I thought about that too
[08:14] <Death_Sargent> bluefox83: could not find anything
[08:14] <petervk> fr33z: if lspci is not detecting it properly you probably need newer kernel modules
[08:14] <fr33z> ill try that and uninstall madwifi, just a sec
[08:14] <Anlar> Hibame: try somethign like "sudo sh" and then go there?
[08:14] <petervk> fr33z: what version of ubuntu you running?
[08:14] <daan> fr33z: maybe this helps https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook
[08:14] <bluefox83> Death_Sargent, does your laptop have a wireless blacklist?
[08:14] <fr33z> i get that with install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) ?
[08:14] <Death_Sargent> bluefox83: im not sure
[08:14] <Death_Sargent> bluefox83: would be news to me
[08:14] <fr33z> i have that walktrough, tried it but doesnt seem to work for me
[08:14] <pdm_> ok i've got....but there is a problem when i do the last  command
[08:14] <pleed> hey can someone tell me how i can get network running without network-manager?
[08:14] <bluefox83> Death_Sargent, me too >.>
[08:15] <daan> fr33z: uname -a
[08:15] <Death_Sargent> bluefox83: im gona try that reinstall drivers thing real fast
[08:15] <Dennyss> OI
[08:15] <alee> Hello all, has anybody come across GConf issues when using netbooted client?
[08:15] <Hibame> Anlar, it said permission denied D:
[08:15] <bluefox83> Death_Sargent, ok..but if it's detecting other networks i don't think that's the problem..but i guess it couldn't hurt
[08:15] <newb> petervk:what data tabel does linux use?
[08:15] <fr33z> madwifi seemed to get my card up and running but i jkeep having trouble with the DHCP servers :(
[08:15] <Anlar> hibame: after sudo sh.. nothing says permission denied ?
[08:15] <petervk> newb: I don't understand?
[08:15] <daan> fr33z: why don't you set it to static then?
[08:15] <Hibame> Anlar, after I put in the dir after doing sudo sh
[08:15] <daan> fr33z: because it's a laptop sorry
[08:16] <newb> petervk: like xp uses ntfs. win98 was fat32. what does linux use?
[08:16] <geem> ooo
[08:16] <geem> oo
[08:16] <petervk> newb: ext3 normally
[08:16] <daan> newb: ext3 is default
[08:16] <geem> give me a second
[08:16] <geem> i knew that
[08:16] <bluefox83> newb, linux can use just about anything, but ubuntu's default is ext3
[08:16] <Anlar> hibame: what is this directory you are trying to access? show the ls -lF line containing it?
[08:16] <jmitchj> petervk: hmmm...seems the gstreamer plugins are installed for divx...but they still won't play
[08:16] <vily> oi
[08:16] <Dennyss> VVV
[08:16] <petervk> newb: But you can use many others. xfs, jfs, reiser4, just not ntfs, and please not fat
[08:16] <newb> ext3 huh... ok so what is reccomended?
[08:16] <Hibame> Anlar, I am trying to get to /dev/bitore/scratch
[08:16] <Anlar> newb: you can't really select it as ubuntu installer screws up installations to other than ext3 very easily
[08:16] <vily> oi
[08:16] <daan> jmitchj: you can also try mplayer or vlc
[08:17] <petervk> newb: ext3
[08:17] <Anlar> Hibame: what on earth is that? :)
[08:17] <Hibame> Anlar, I need it to make my lvm work, but it seems that the lvm cant get to it
[08:17] <petervk> newb: its the most popular. You don't want to mess around with different filesystem the first time.
[08:17] <roger25> i installed ubuntu with lilo and set up lilo.conf to launch usplash but i get no consoles just some green pixels (the gnome desktop i all right)
[08:17] <jmitchj> daan: tried both of those
[08:17] <newb> woah... now i am starting to see complications... so how will i install warcraft3 with wine if war3 is ntfs cd?
[08:17] <Anlar> Hibame: sounds like umm kernel problem ..
[08:18] <Anlar> newb: ubuntu will work nicely with ntfs
[08:18] <vily> o que?
[08:18] <newb> damn i am so noob
[08:18] <Hibame> Anlar, how would I fix it?
[08:18] <mhz`> install it on windows...play it from unbuntu?
[08:18] <petervk> newb: The cd is not ntfs, and it will work fine
[08:18] <Pugwash> Hello
[08:18] <petervk> newb: all cd's and dvd's have their own filesystem (not ext3 or ntfs) and work fine in linux
[08:18] <MelonenGuu> what does "roaming mode" mean?
[08:18] <newb> mhx: what do yo you mean install in windows play on ubuntu? i am planning on clean install to ubuntu
[08:18] <daan> jmitchj: well i think i can't help you then (you're running feisty right?)
[08:19] <Anlar> Hibame: I'm sorry, I have no idea what that is. never seen anything like it :o your lvm setup is screwed somehow I guess, totally
[08:19] <jmitchj> daan: right
[08:19] <mhz`> ahh, i thought you were dual booting
[08:19] <petervk> newb: that will work fine for warcraft 3
[08:19] <MelonenGuu> !roaming
[08:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about roaming - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:19] <newb> no i have not even installed it yet
[08:19] <alee> anybody come across this message when gnome starts up? Window manager warning: Adding client to server's list failed, CORBA error: IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0
[08:19] <daan> jmitchj: whoops wrong person :P
[08:19] <mhz`> question...anyone got a good tutorial for setting up VPN?
[08:19] <mhz`> (specifically connecting to a windows VPN)
[08:19] <daan> jmitchj: but they all don't work? with any divx?
[08:19] <petervk> newb: the laptop your trying this on has the nvidia card, right?
[08:19] <newb> mhx: i am a new windows user thining of switching. but i want to make sure i can run what i normally run on windows
[08:19] <jmitchj> daan: not that i can see
[08:19] <fr33z> i get an error when doing ifup ath0: wifi0: unknown hardware address type 801, anyone recognize that one?
[08:20] <petervk> newb: what do you normally run on windows?
[08:20] <pike__> mhz`: only client ive ever used is vpnc. i do normally something like sudo vpnc --domain=domainname  and it prompts for the other stuff
[08:20] <alee> anybody come across this message when gnome starts up? Adding client to server's list failed, CORBA error: IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0
[08:20] <daan> jmitchj: what is the output of mplayer on a terminal?
[08:20] <mhz`> ok, let me give that a try
[08:20] <newb> petervk: well office my media player classic firefox, and my once a day warcraft 3
[08:20] <petervk> newb: Linux has a lot of good almost equilivant programs to windows, but everything is a bit different.
[08:20] <Gasten> newb: most things cant be run on both windows and linux, but you'll most certainly find something equally good in linux as in windows (if not better).
[08:21] <daan> newb: warcraft 3 works superb here
[08:21] <newb> petervk:u know i am just nervous to switch.
[08:21] <newb> the idea of a new operating system kinda worries me
[08:21] <petervk> newb: Firefox = Great, Media player = you'll have to use rythmnbox or amarok, warcraft 3 = will work in wine
[08:21] <Anlar> newb: that list is pretty easy, you should find equivalents and working applications for those needs
[08:21] <Dennyss> OI
[08:21] <Dennyss> ALGUEM AI:?
[08:22] <Gasten> Hey, what programs do you use to convert video files? (mp4 to ogg, for example)
[08:22] <newb> can you guys reccomend like a linux tutorial on the basic command lines and stuff?
[08:22] <daan> newb: just try it you can allways go back to windows if it doesn't suit you
[08:22] <mhz`> newb, google it
[08:22] <Death_Sargent> bluefox83: ok I will be back probably need to restart
[08:22] <mhz`> tons of stuff
[08:22] <newb> i know dos. but i am not sure how linux works
[08:22] <Death_Sargent> bluefox83: thanks either way
[08:22] <petervk> newb: Well, first try the livecd, it won't install anything and will allow you to try out a full ubuntu system
[08:22] <mhz`> its similar
[08:22] <daan> Gasten: mencoder avidemux
[08:22] <Anlar> Gasten: ffmpeg .. it's nasty but works
[08:22] <blubloblu> newb: you mightn't be able to run the same software, but you'll be able to find equally good or better alternatives
[08:22] <newb> well ubuntu is almost done. its 12% right now YAY
[08:23] <Gasten> daan: thanks. trying.
[08:23] <newb> yeah i am very sick of windows to be honest
[08:23] <daan> Gasten: mencoder is commandline avidemux is gui
[08:23] <blubloblu> newb: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty will come in handy
[08:23] <daan> Gasten: for avidemux to work you need to install the gstreamer plugins
[08:23] <newb> i spent almost 900 worht on software
[08:23] <jatt> haha
[08:23] <petervk> newb: Then if you want to install, i would suggest shrinking the windows partition and installing ubuntu into the free space, and dual booting
[08:23] <newb> only to be pissed off it didnt work with my hardware last week
[08:23] <geem> whine
[08:24] <geem> a windows emulator
[08:24] <petervk> newb: well, once you install ubuntu you don'
[08:24] <IndyLucian> hello #ubuntu. I am wanting to download ubuntu, kubuntu, and edubuntu and create a single dvd for all 3. How could I create a boot menu that will allow you to choose one of the three to install?
[08:24] <Gasten> daan: ok. good thing I started trying avidemux, then ^^ Commandline converters and encoders tends to be a pain i the *** if you dont use them on a regular basis.
[08:24] <newb> how much space should i give windows?
[08:24] <petervk> newb: don't have to spend a cent.
[08:24] <Anlar> newb: I got Vista Business legally for 100% free.. it was nice aok, but I actually like tinkering and poking things so..
[08:24] <jatt> in more than 10 years I've spent 0$ worth in software
[08:24] <newb> petervk: is all linux apps free?
[08:24] <Neil3> not all
[08:24] <daan> Gasten: agreed but mencoder is lightning fast that's why I use it sometimes
[08:24] <Neil3> newb, not all, i mean
[08:24] <petervk> newb: how big is your hard drive?
[08:24] <newb> anlar:vista sucks
[08:24] <Murrlin> wonder if this is a suitable place to ask about dsp allocation?
[08:24] <petervk> newb: 99% of them
[08:24] <Anlar> newb: it would be nice to give 10-20 gigs for the ubuntu.. and make separate /home partition for your personal files
[08:25] <newb> petervk:250gb on a maxtor and 180 on a wd
[08:25] <Murrlin> to wit: I cannot run sc_trans while playing youtube videos, nor can I listen to youtubes while sc_trans is running
[08:25] <daan> Anlar: indeed that's what i have
[08:25] <roger> where can I get the manual for linix
[08:25] <IndyLucian> if i dual boot i usually give the two operating systems 1 half each
[08:25] <petervk> Anlar: newb: Or possibly all in one partition to make it easier to resize later?
[08:25] <Anlar> newb: no, I meant it. it was pretty nice. it just doesn't offer the same possibilities of tinkering and poking :)
[08:25] <saintm1777> hi all
[08:25] <petervk> newb: on the laptop?
[08:25] <blubloblu> roger: there is no one manual for linux
[08:25] <Murrlin> a dsp conflict, it seems. where might I find info about linux's dsp and how to spawn another one?
[08:25] <blubloblu> roger: do you use Ubuntu?
[08:25] <petervk> roger: google is the manual
[08:25] <saintm1777> I am new to linux
[08:26] <Anlar> petervk: newb: I wouldn't because if you split the ubuntu and your personal files.. it's really easy to switch away from ubuntu to others etc if you want :)
[08:26] <Lr5> roger, try manpages
[08:26] <newb> petervk: oh on laptop i have 120 gig
[08:26] <sue47> does beryl not work with the ati closed driver?
[08:26] <Lr5> and the other suggestions
[08:26] <roger> how about ubuntu
[08:26] <IndyLucian> newb, i would do 60gb/60gb
[08:26] <blubloblu> roger: there are thousands of wikis and forums for support
[08:26] <petervk> Anlar: newb: point taken. Separate home is better.
[08:26] <saintm1777> I am looking for a source of information on linux
[08:26] <roger> where
[08:26] <saintm1777> any ideas about basics?
[08:26] <jmitchj> daan: where do i paste the output to?
[08:26] <newb> petervk:what do you mean seperate home?
[08:26] <blubloblu> roger: https://help.ubuntu.com/
[08:26] <mhz`> word, vpn setup
[08:27] <roger> no
[08:27] <nesssy> what packages do i install for c++
[08:27] <saintm1777> please
[08:27] <roger> come from windows
[08:27] <Lr5> google for a linux guide or tutorial
[08:27] <daan> jmitchj: err that pastebin service
[08:27] <newb> damn all this new jargon
[08:27] <IndyLucian> newb, a seperate partition for your home directory where all your own personal files will be stored. so if you system crashes you can recover the information
[08:27] <Anlar> nesssy: try ummm build-essential and anjuta :) that should get you started
[08:27] <Lr5> nesssy, try g++
[08:27] <jmitchj> !pastebin
[08:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:27] <petervk> newb: usually in linux you install the os and your personal files to seperate partitions.
[08:27] <Ayarcy> Where can I learn more about automating Ubuntu installs for many machines?
[08:27] <Epidemic> Hey guys, anyone have a few minutes? I just turned on my machine today, and for some reason, it says boot device not found or something like that... I have a feeling it can't find the mbr or somehow it got messed up... any of you have any ideas on how to fix it?? i'm in live right now, and I can browse everything on the HD
[08:28] <daan> jmitchj: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/
[08:28] <roger25> i got troubles to get a proper console after having set up lilo to launch uspach, i got some green pixels on first console and blanck screen on others (the gnome desktop is fine) what can i try to get proper console ?
[08:28] <nesssy> build essential or g++? anlar and Lr5 got me confused  :)
[08:28] <roger> linix is like dos
[08:28] <petervk> newb: home is where your personal files are kept.
[08:28] <Lr5> build-essential
[08:28] <newb> peter:so home = personal data?
[08:28] <Lr5> that's better
[08:28] <daan> jmitchj: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[08:28] <saintm1777> I know dos...
[08:28] <Anlar> nesssy: build-essential will pull in a HUGE pile of software, all that you will need.. and anjuta is IDE for developing in c++
[08:28] <newb> petervk:gotcha
[08:28] <Lr5> you get all you need
[08:28] <IndyLucian> does anyone know of a package for gnome that matches kmobiletools for kde?
[08:28] <daan> newb: yes and personal settings
[08:28] <saintm1777> command prompt type commands
[08:28] <petervk> roger: tisk. Don't insult linux like that. It has a command line, but it is not dos.
[08:28] <nesssy> okie. so build-essential it is :) thanks Lr5.
[08:29] <petervk> roger: what would you like to know?
[08:29] <newb> petervk:what is kde and gnome?
[08:29] <Lr5> but well, anyone knows other way of string completion than tab in shell?
[08:29] <kane77> are intel graphic cards and intel wifi cards well supported? I'm planning to buy laptop...
[08:29] <Epidemic> roger: linux* is not like dos, the only thing they have in common is they're cli driven
[08:29] <Anlar> kane77: intel is the BEST supported
[08:29] <saintm1777> sorry
[08:29] <newb> i read that ubuntu has 2 options??
[08:29] <Lr5> my phone hasn't got a tab
[08:29] <roger> i know but i know dos
[08:29] <jmitchj> daan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29269/
[08:29] <Anlar> kane77: just stellar out of the box
[08:29] <saintm1777> as I said before I am new to linux
[08:29] <pike__> Lr5: like ? or * ?
[08:29] <blubloblu> roger: linux uses the command line as a powerful effienct tool. But modern linux distribution like ubuntu have great GUI, search youtube for Compiz Fusion
[08:29] <IndyLucian> !kmobiletools for gnome
[08:29] <kane77> Anlar, whew cool! I buy intel then :)
[08:29] <newb> saintm: hey dude i am new too!!!
[08:29] <saintm1777> can you guys give me some starting point
[08:29] <petervk> newb: desktop environments. Basically they control how your desktop looks. (a very simple description)
[08:30] <saintm1777> Ha newb
[08:30] <ubuntu__> hi
[08:30] <Anlar> kane77: if the hardware is 100% intel all the way, you don't have to worry about that question.. just slap in any alternative os and it will usually just work
[08:30] <Lr5> pike, could work, thanks
[08:30] <petervk> newb: ubuntu = gnome, kubuntu = kde
[08:30] <saintm1777> all this linux jargon is giving me a headache
[08:30] <newb> petervk:which environment do you reccomend?
[08:30] <IndyLucian> saintm1777, www.linuxcommand.org, help.ubuntu.com
[08:30] <petervk> newb: Gnome all the way
[08:30] <daan> jmitchj: what is your videocard?
[08:30] <Anlar> kane77: including the display adapter.. I'd be slightly picky if I was you though, gma950 is aok but you might want to squeeze in gma3000
[08:30] <roger> I need a book on ubu
[08:30] <saintm1777> thanks IndyLucian
[08:30] <mhz`> gnome is awesome
[08:30] <ubuntu__> :D
[08:30] <ubuntu__> lolz
[08:30] <IndyLucian> yw
[08:30] <newb> saintm:dont worry man iam entering that jargon thing right now
[08:30] <petervk> newb: but don't ask everyone as it is a popular topic of flamewars.
[08:30] <daan> jmitchj: and you can join the #daan channel if you want a private conversation
[08:30] <blubloblu> newb: gnome is usually considered clean and light. KDE is considered Powerful and customizable
[08:30] <jmitchj> daan: ATI 200M
[08:31] <pike__> ubuntu should fork gnome. that would be entertaining
[08:31] <jmitchj> daan: ATI Express 200M actually i think
[08:31] <petervk> saintm1777: read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[08:31] <daan> jmitchj: are the drivers installed?
[08:31] <newb> well i want my desktop to act like that xgl and beryl video on youtube i saw
[08:31] <lhuynh> question: where would be the best place for me to find someone fluent in both english and french to help with translation of an open source program?
[08:31] <newb> so which environment is that?
[08:31] <blubloblu> newb: any environment can do that
[08:31] <petervk> newb: both
[08:31] <jmitchj> daan: for my video card?
[08:31] <sue47> does beryl not work with the ati propriatary drivers?
[08:31] <Drakeson> how can I annotate pdf files?
[08:31] <daan> jmitchj: yes
[08:31] <petervk> newb: gnome is easier to setup
[08:31] <newb> WOO HOOOOOOO
[08:32] <Anlar> lhuynh: launchpad. just add it in there, Rosetta will take care
[08:32] <roger> i tried
[08:32] <newb> ubuntu is up and running
[08:32] <saintm1777> thanks petervk!
[08:32] <jmitchj> daan: whatever installed as part of the Feisty installation
[08:32] <newb> wow... no icons???
[08:32] <blubloblu> newb: uncluttered
[08:32] <Epidemic> blubloblu: it is also considered a memory hog
[08:32] <petervk> newb: what kind of graphics card is in the laptop
[08:32] <newb> hmmmmmm this ubuntu is very ummm clean
[08:32] <petervk> newb: isn't it great
[08:32] <newb> nvidia 6800
[08:32] <newb> wow
[08:32] <daan> jmitchj: can you give me the output of: file /home/mitch/Desktop/TimeChanger.avi
[08:32] <kane77> Anlar, so you advise intel over AMD, eh? but the sempron laptop has 6-cell battery, the intel laptop has 4-cell :(
[08:32] <newb> no lag
[08:32] <saintm1777> I have wiped my laptop of windows in favour of Kubuntu. This better be a good idea
[08:32] <petervk> newb: perfect card for compiz
[08:32] <blubloblu> Epidemic: what is? (i cant keep track of what im saying:-) )
[08:32] <Anlar> Epidemic: memory hog? uhh.. if you call <100M a memory hog nowadays when computers have commonly 2-4G...
[08:33] <newb> hmmmmmmm
[08:33] <petervk> newb: you downloaded 7.04, right?
[08:33] <ITDirect> any u guys any tips on pre-installing ubuntu for retail
[08:33] <jmitchj> daan: the output?...it's a movie
[08:33] <lhuynh> Anlar: you mean the Rosetta people will take care of it?
[08:33] <newb> brb i wanna look around this linux box for a bit
[08:33] <newb> yeah 7.04
[08:33] <daan> jmitchj: file is a command
[08:33] <newb> brb
[08:33] <Anlar> kane77: it's not the cpu. intel has the luxury to combine intel cpu with intel chipsets.. which makes wonders. amd can not offer that ever
[08:33] <petervk> newb: here, try this
[08:33] <daan> jmitchj: :)
[08:33] <newb> try what?
[08:33] <bobberet> Does anyone have any hints for using the WIN key for shortcuts?  super works but only one action can bind to win key, it wont let one do WIN-L.  changing it to META seems to do nothing (binds, but shortcuts just dont work).  am i missing something?
[08:33] <saintm1777> I am just feeling awkward about installing software and that tar stuff
[08:33] <Epidemic> Anlar: maybe you should look at statistics... statistically, most people have between a gig and a gig and a half...
[08:33] <petervk> newb: click System -> Preferences -> desktop effects
[08:33] <jmitchj> daan: data
[08:33] <blubloblu> ITDirect: the alternate CD has an OEM option
[08:33] <Anlar> lhuynh: well no, but it's a good way to make it easy for anyone to contribute.. then just hit for instance some forums to build awareness.. and if you're lucky, tomorrow at this time it's all done
[08:33] <saintm1777> I was told to 'compile' and then install?
[08:34] <daan> jmitchj: that's all?
[08:34] <newb> petervk: gotcha petervk.
[08:34] <jmitchj> daan: yup
[08:34] <petervk> saintm1777: You don't need to use tar much in a modern distro such as ubuntu
[08:34] <newb> petervk:where do i go to see the beryl stuff?
[08:34] <daan> jmitchj: that's not good
[08:34] <petervk> newb: click enable desktop effects
[08:34] <chadeldridge> How do i find out which /dev/ my usb headset is using ?
[08:34] <mhz`> i'm bored and need something to do
[08:34] <daan> jmitchj: try another movie
[08:34] <jmitchj> daan: it plays in windows
[08:34] <blubloblu> newb: system>preferences>system effects
[08:34] <daan> jmitchj: it seems it's uncompressed or something
[08:34] <mhz`> if there's no xwindows setup, you'll need to use tar, gzip, etc
[08:34] <mhz`> a lot more
[08:34] <ITDirect> what is the benefits of oem install alternate cd
[08:34] <newb> wait i dont install beryl??
[08:34] <mhz`> in a server enviroment
[08:34] <petervk> blubloblu: desktop effects
[08:34] <saintm1777> Adept. I have tried this.  somethings crash on install
[08:34] <petervk> newb: not yet
[08:35] <newb> oh ok
[08:35] <saintm1777> I would love to be confident to fix stuff
[08:35] <newb> k brb 5 mins lemme look around
[08:35] <Anlar> newb: you have compiz already. it does the cube flipping and window effects. :)
[08:35] <newb> saitnm: try the livecd i am doin that now
[08:35] <blubloblu> ITDirect: the OS is already intalled when the customer turns on the PC, all they have to do is choose a username and password
[08:35] <petervk> newb: feisty (7.04) comes with compiz, which is pretty close to beryl
[08:35] <jmitchj> daan: oh well i guess i'll just play that one in windows
[08:35] <ITDirect> Thinking of opening shop, promoting open sourrce/ ubuntu
[08:35] <EK_> Messing with partitions proved unsuccessful, time to close up and try again later. Thanks for your help.
[08:35] <daan> jmitchj: but do other movies work?
[08:35] <blubloblu> ITDirect: please do! where are you based?
[08:35] <saintm1777> Yesterday my system went nuts when I tried to change screen resolution and card type. Had to wipe and start again.
[08:35] <ITDirect> Somerset west cpt
[08:35] <newb> WOO HOOO
[08:36] <chadeldridge> How do i find out which /dev/ my usb headset is using ?
[08:36] <newb> THIS OS IS NICE!!!
[08:36] <petervk> newb: got compiz running?
[08:36] <jmitchj> daan: some avi's work yeah...seems the ones that say XVID don;t
[08:36] <saintm1777> I am sure there would have been an easy way had I known the terminal code/commands
[08:36] <newb> petervk: YEAH
[08:36] <petervk> newb: pretty cool. I think I just hooked you on linux.
[08:36] <newb> petervk:what is the name of the browser on ubuntu?
[08:36] <ITDirect> problem is pre loaded 3x laptop for sale, adopting very difficult from customers
[08:36] <petervk> newb: firefox
[08:36] <daan> jmitchj: strange
[08:36] <newb> petervk:ok brb
[08:36] <kane77> Anlar, hmm.. i want a cheap laptop that needs to last as long as possible, I don't need it to be too fast..
[08:36] <petervk> newb: same as windows.
[08:37] <mhz`> better then ie
[08:37] <Anlar> newb: you might want to install and try epiphany as well. it's leaner and meaner, but doesn't allow you to install all those sub-standard quality plugins.. stuff like adblock come included though already.
[08:37] <petervk> kane77: dell is good. Thinkpads are tanks
[08:37] <jmitchj> daan...no big deal....
[08:37] <newb> i own a dell
[08:37] <blubloblu> ITDirect: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu_OEM_Installer_Overview?highlight=%28OEM%29
[08:37] <petervk> newb: there should be a firefox icon on the top of the screen
[08:37] <newb> i got it cuz it was cheap
[08:38] <daan> jmitchj: well ok if you want to try something try this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs
[08:38] <newb> petervk:yeah i got it running why does everything seem faster on linux?
[08:38] <petervk> newb: less bloat
[08:38] <Anlar> kane77: hp nx 6400 series for instance. or, fujitsu-siemens amilo pro vx3000 series if you want small. or, asus ones.. they come with better warranties
[08:38] <jmitchj> daan: been through all that stuff too
[08:38] <ITDirect> automatix
[08:38] <newb> petervk: is there a system monitor like in windows so i can see resources and processes?
[08:38] <petervk> newb: no DRM.
[08:38] <Anlar> kane77: or, system76 or was it 67 or 79 or whatever.. :p
[08:38] <newb> NO DRM?
[08:38] <newb> AT ALL
[08:39] <mwe> !shout | newb
[08:39] <ubotu> newb: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[08:39] <petervk> newb: System -> Administration -> System Monitor
[08:39] <daan> jmitchj: is it a laptop? yes right?
[08:39] <jmitchj> daan: anything i go to that tries to install w32codecs...says that the file is not installable
[08:39] <kane77> Anlar, hp seemed good to me, plus a friend bought one and didn't have any problems in ubuntu...
[08:39] <jmitchj> daan: yes
[08:39] <Anlar> newb: that explanation is bs. it's just that your system is clean, with less stuff installed etc.. and it wont have that bad snowball effect as your windows had
[08:39] <newb> petervk: how do i configure my iptable?
[08:39] <daan> jmitchj: then you haven't added the right repositories
[08:39] <petervk> newb: think about it, would you program your operating system to include DRM?
[08:39] <petervk> newb: and why would you want to do that?
[08:39] <MattJ> !medibuntu | jmitchj
[08:39] <jmitchj> daan: i've tried different ones
[08:39] <ubotu> jmitchj: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[08:40] <Anlar> kane77: yes, most of the business series hps are intel all the way. they are the old "compaq" series and they have actually supported linux for some customers from 2001 or so
[08:40] <newb> what the hell... why didnt i use this before?
[08:40] <jmitchj> MattJ: tried that one too
[08:40] <Anlar> newb: don't enable firewall. you really do not need it.
[08:40] <MattJ> jmitchj, did you apt-get update after?
[08:40] <newb> this should be in all office computers man.
[08:40] <jmitchj> MattJ: yup
[08:40] <daan> jmitchj: if you add medibuntu the right way then you can install w32codecs
[08:40] <petervk> newb: iptables is already configured, and you don't need to mess with it. Firewall is up by default.
[08:40] <newb> wow i already have like office installed
[08:40] <ITDirect> how can i create a custom ubuntu installation for retail rollout
[08:41] <wdar> evening all
[08:41] <jmitchj> daan: does it matter that i'm running 64 bit?
[08:41] <Anlar> newb: yes, perhaps should. the problem is that some office software is missing :) the more special things.. but you can go around that (terminal services, citrix etc)
[08:41] <magnetron> kane77: /join #ubuntu-offtopic and i will give you my advice for a laptop
[08:41] <newb> petervk:no i want to set my ip addresses static
[08:41] <mhz`> for compiz, i know its installed...where would i be able to enable/config it?
[08:41] <daan> jmitchj: yes i think so
[08:41] <jmitchj> daan: maybe that's my problem
[08:41] <daan> jmitchj: generally it's less compatible
[08:41] <daan> jmitchj: you should really give the 32 bit version a try
[08:41] <fusheh> Afternoon everyone ~
[08:42] <newb> hahahahaha my gf is seeing this ubuntu in action and now her and her gf are curious
[08:42] <jmitchj> daan: no prob
[08:42] <isidoro> no one knows xdtv??
[08:42] <armchair_armada> I'm new to ubuntu, but I cannot get apt-get to work for anything!  I haven't been able to get a single package through apt-get yet.
[08:42] <jmitchj> daan: thanks for the help
[08:42] <petervk> newb: just click network icon in the top right of the screen and click manual configuration
[08:42] <daan> jmitchj: glad to be of service
[08:42] <mhz`> newb, you got 2 chicks there and you're being a nerd
[08:42] <John`> how do you browse through the network in samba?
[08:42] <newb> petervk:thanks bud
[08:42] <John`> using terminal
[08:42] <mhz`> come on now, even you gotta be able to make the right choice
[08:42] <fusheh> armchair_armada: what kind of error do you get if any when you use it....
[08:42] <mhz`> 2 chicks or ubunutu
[08:42] <newb> mhz: i have a daughter too an
[08:43] <pha|con> in the command line ftp app how does one delete a non-empty directory?
[08:43] <fusheh> newb: Thats kinky....
[08:43] <newb> mhz: yeah i run a home business
[08:43] <isidoro> !xdtv
[08:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xdtv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:43] <newb> lol
[08:43] <mhz`> !compiz
[08:43] <newb> brb everyone im liking this
[08:43] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:43] <davegp> Anyone had any success getting Lenovo X60 tablet *with multitouch* to work with Feisty?
[08:43] <pike__> pha|con: mdelete i think
[08:43] <petervk> newb: now, don't make too many changes to the live cd as you'll lose everything if you re-boot.
[08:43] <John`> can someone tell me how to browse through a network folder using terminal?
[08:43] <John`> would it be /smb?
[08:43] <pha|con> pike_:  i'll give that a go....brb
[08:43] <petervk> newb: you'd have to install to keep any changes made
[08:44] <isidoro> !divx
[08:44] <newb> petervk: uhhhhh how do i get my printer to work??
[08:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:44] <petervk> newb: fun fun. What kind of printer and how is it connected?
[08:44] <armchair_armada> Basically it says that it's reading the package list, builds the depenency tree, reads state information, then says "E: Couldn't find package XXX" -- where XXX is everything I've tried.
[08:44] <Anlar> newb: cups knows like 2/3 of the printers out of the box..
[08:44] <mhz`> peter, compiz is installed by default..what is it listed under to config/enable it?
[08:44] <newb> no it is not connected yet and it is a lexmark 3220
[08:44] <Anlar> newb: system -> administration -> printing, add new printer, etc
[08:44] <John`> how can you browse through a network in terminal? can someone help?
[08:45] <isidoro> !drdivx
[08:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drdivx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:45] <kane77> Anlar, what diffrence does 4-cell/6-cell battery make?
[08:45] <petervk> mhz`: click System -> Preferences -> desktop effects
[08:45] <fusheh> armchair_armada:Sounds like you typed the package name wrong? o.o
[08:45] <jo3> John`, is it a windows network?
[08:45] <John`> yes
[08:45] <newb> petervk:nvm peter is sees it
[08:45] <pike__> newb: id do a google search like 'site:linuxprinting.org printermodel' to get an idea of how likely it is to work
[08:45] <Anlar> kane77: 45 minutes?
[08:45] <jo3> you need samba client, you got it installed?
[08:45] <mhz`> ahhh, ty peter..its sexy
[08:45] <kane77> Anlar, only that little? :/
[08:45] <jo3> then it's smb://
[08:45] <kane77> Anlar, I thought it was more...
[08:45] <Anlar> kane77: don't worry about that. :)
[08:46] <ditoa> hey
[08:46] <isidoro> what is sexy
[08:46] <John`> like if i try to mount something through a network, i want to mount it right off from the network instead of copying the file to my hardrive
[08:46] <ditoa> i got a question about samba but #samba is dead
[08:46] <petervk> isidoro: compiz
[08:46] <John`> is it possible?
[08:46] <petervk> ditoa: shoot.
[08:46] <ditoa> how good is samba compatibility with windows vista, xp and server 2003?
[08:46] <jo3> yes, mounting a network drive is easy
[08:46] <petervk> ditoa: Great
[08:46] <ditoa> how do accounts work?
[08:46] <Anlar> ditoa: depends, client stuff is mostly working. serving in larger environments is a suicide
[08:46] <petervk> ditoa: it is fully compatible for file sharing
[08:46] <John`> jo3: do you know how to get to the network folders using terminal though?
[08:46] <ditoa> with windows you can do machinename\usernameonremotesystem
[08:47] <ditoa> so if i am on a machine called dilbert
[08:47] <magnetron> !enter
[08:47] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:47] <ditoa> and i want to connect to a remote system call freddy i need to have an account on freddy to access it
[08:47] <osmosis> I am very confused. Every day I modify my /etc/motd  file , and every day it ends up being default again.
[08:47] <John`> like using "cd /home" will get me to my home folder, how do you do it for network?
[08:47] <ditoa> i assume this is still true with samba?
[08:48] <petervk> ditoa: you will have to add the user you want to connect as to samba on the server in samba.
[08:48] <ditoa> basically i have a windows xp system that runs as a "file server" for all my movies, music, etc
[08:48] <petervk> ditoa: http://us3.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/
[08:48] <ditoa> and i want to learn a little about linux by replacing it with a ubuntu system
[08:48] <ditoa> that petervk
[08:49] <mhz`> ubunutu is a linux distro..
[08:49] <ariel_> #ubuntu-es
[08:49] <ditoa> yeah
[08:49] <John`> i tried "cd /smb" but it doesn't work
[08:49] <John`> any ideas?
[08:49] <fusheh> osmosis: It's dont by one of the init scripts. I believe you must edit motd.tail though o.O
[08:49] <jo3> do you want to mount the network share or just brows to it once
[08:49] <John`> i just one to browse to it jo3
[08:49] <John`> in terminal
[08:49] <petervk> ditoa: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Share_files_using_Samba https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[08:50] <John`> want*
[08:50] <ditoa> thanks
[08:50] <bobsomebody> god these stupid belkin routers are crap
[08:50] <ditoa> im very new to all this
[08:50] <ditoa> can i add samba users without adding them as local users (if that makes sense?)
[08:50] <petervk> newb: how are things going so far? need anything else?
[08:51] <John`> does anyone ever browse through their network folder using the terminal before..?
[08:51] <chadeldridge> How do i find out which /dev/ my usb headset is using ?
[08:51] <petervk> ditoa: I'm not an expert, but I'm pretty sure they only need to be samba users, not full system users
[08:51] <fusheh> John`: I don't have a network folder D:
[08:51] <pike__> John`: i did a little script for that but ive since lost it.. lemme check
[08:51] <iarwain> can anyone help me with a "can't access tty" error?
[08:51] <ditoa> samba looks very command line, i dont mind this but when learning i do kinda prefer a GUI ;)
[08:51] <John`> thank you
[08:51] <ditoa> is there a GUI for samba available?
[08:51] <pike__> John`: of course you can just mount the share also
[08:51] <fusheh> iarwain: State the full error please.
[08:51] <chadeldridge> ditoa:  use nautalis
[08:52] <petervk> ditoa: search samba SWAT -> webgui for samba
[08:52] <dale> hello
[08:52] <wdar> hello , i need help in installing ubunto on my laptop. . once i run the cd  and reboot my pc it runs for about 2 mins and then it says cant access tty: job control turned off.
[08:52] <ditoa> petervk: ahh cool. shame windows doesnt do that!
[08:52] <wdar> shat shall i do .
[08:52] <iarwain> fusheh: well, it complains about not being able to mount the root filesystem. Do note i am trying this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootToRAM
[08:52] <ditoa> chadeldridge: i meant from a user admin point of view etc
[08:52] <chadeldridge> ahh .. yes then use swat
[08:52] <ditoa> generating a smb.conf file
[08:52] <ditoa> ok cool
[08:52] <ditoa> so swat is kinda like a cpanel for samba?
[08:52] <John`> how do you mount the share pike?
[08:52] <checkergrrl> is there someone that could help me with a script?
[08:52] <ditoa> webmin type thing?
[08:52] <fusheh> wdar: Thats a known error. If you google around you may be able to find a fix. I'm not sure if it's relevant with the latest ubuntu release though.
[08:52] <chadeldridge> kinda
[08:53] <ditoa> cool
[08:53] <pike__> John`: er i found it but right now it scans for windows shares and tries to connect without a password. it bascially just for looking where you shouldnt you still want it?
[08:53] <petervk> ditoa: Samba is great, but it does have a cryptic config.
[08:53] <ditoa> will give it a look
[08:53] <ditoa> thanks all :)
[08:53] <Carleton91> Hello, I'm having issues with my keyboard commands registering on the Grub start up screen making it impossible for me to switch to Ubuntu
[08:53] <chadeldridge> anyone know how to find out what /dev/ a device is using when you plug it in ?
[08:53] <John`> sure
[08:53] <wdar> fusheh , i am really new to ubunto
[08:53] <ditoa> Carleton91: yeah. it looks a bit cryptic. i dont mind learning the command line/config file stuff but i prefer to go to tht level after i know the basics
[08:54] <wdar> presently using windows , pidgin to join ubunto channel
[08:54] <Cait> hi i'm new to linux. look all over the internet and the forums last night for a solution, tried some and failed. i have the ati x series vid card. installed but now can't reboot!!
[08:54] <John`> i'm not quite sure what you talking about though, i just want to browse through the network using command in terminal, nothing fancy
[08:54] <Carleton91> ditoa, my issue is that my keyboard acts like its not plugged in =/
[08:54] <fusheh> iarwain: hmm I think google is your best bet on that error. Sorry D:
[08:54] <mrfisk> recommend a rar archiver ?
[08:54] <ditoa> ??
[08:54] <iarwain> fusheh: google doesn't give me anything usefull, still thanks though!
[08:55] <Carleton91> The grub boot screen comes up, but no matter how hard i pound on my keyboard it doesn't change the item selected on the menu
[08:55] <petervk> mrfisk: unrar
[08:55] <Agent_Orange> !wdar ubunto
[08:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wdar ubunto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:55] <fusheh> iarwain: No problem.~
[08:55] <chadeldridge> how do you see which /dev/ are currently assigned ?
[08:55] <Agent_Orange> aw >_>
[08:55] <visik7> anyone here got an mx900 mouse ?
[08:55] <fusheh> Agent_Orange: lol
[08:55] <pike__> John`: i put some comments in there to give ya an idea of what its doing http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29272/
[08:55] <petervk> mrfisk: but tar.gz works great. (fileroller / Archive manager)
[08:55] <ditoa> usb keyboard?
[08:55] <Carleton91> yes
[08:55] <John`> thanks
[08:56] <ditoa> bios support usb keyboard?
[08:56] <pike__> John`: its not very clean
[08:56] <fusheh> iarwain: If you could pastebin the error message maybe someone could help you out.
[08:56] <John`> so wait
[08:56] <mrfisk> Ok, well the built in archiver doesnt work with part rar's it seems.
[08:56] <John`> how do i use this script
[08:56] <John`> ?
[08:56] <John`> where i put it?
[08:56] <iarwain> fusheh: problem is i have to reboot to get to a working pc xD
[08:56] <bashi> hi all, i have just got the plugin on firefox and can now play midi files.but sound is scratchy and erratic.anybody know how to stabilize it? I have already been through alsa nothing there
[08:56] <Carleton91> It has worked in the past on the Grub boot screen, but today its not, is there something in the BIOS i can change to get it working again?
[08:56] <fusheh> iarwain: It doesnt dump you to a shell?
[08:56] <pike__> paste it in an editor and save the file then 'bash filename' to run.
[08:57] <pike__> John`: ^
[08:57] <ditoa> Carleton91: i have some dell optiplex systems at work which are a bit dodgy like that
[08:57] <John`> do i need to make it an exe?
[08:57] <ditoa> there is an option for "emulate ps/2 keyboard and mouse on usb" or something in the bios
[08:57] <iarwain> fusheh: it does, but the point of the guide is to have it all loaded into RAM, so once i reboot, it's all lost
[08:57] <patrlck> hi
[08:57] <chadeldridge> anyone know about finding which /dev/ a device is using ?
[08:58] <knix> dmesg.
[08:58] <fusheh> iarwain: Mount a hd and save it there?
[08:58] <pike__> John`: you can chmod +x filename if ya want and then just run it. its a choice between that or typing bash filename. whichever you want
[08:58] <Carleton91> ditoa: Ok cool thanks, I'll try tooling around with that, wish me luck!
[08:58] <petervk> John`: No. Simply pasting it to a text file, saving it, and then using bash to run it is enough
[08:58] <AaronMT> chadelridge: System -> Preferences -> Hardware INformation
[08:58] <chadeldridge> knix: doesnt tell you where the device mounts
[08:58] <askand> What command can I use to connect my wireless eth1?
[08:58] <John`> thanks
[08:58] <chadeldridge> aaronMT:  looking .. thanks
[08:58] <patrlck> I have a very annoying problem. Whenever I burn a dvd everything is fine but after that ALL discs access are VERY slow :( ... anyone can help ?
[08:58] <iarwain> fusheh: i could, but i don't really feel like rebooting again.. still trying some stuff ^^
[08:58] <knix> chadeldridge: it should, what type of device is this?..
[08:58] <patrlck> chadeldridge, cat /etc/fstab
[08:58] <chadeldridge> knix:  usb headet
[08:59] <knix> dmesg shoudl say
[08:59] <fusheh> iarwain: Aye aye xDD Best bet though it to get that error message down so someone can assess it.
[08:59] <petervk> chadeldridge: you could try running tail -f /var/log/kern.log in a terminal while plugging in the device.
[08:59] <John`> ah, so this script won't work if the windows network have a password in it huh?
[08:59] <daan> patrlck: is then when burning or after burning
[08:59] <iarwain> fusheh: i will :) but it's quite funny though
[08:59] <patrlck> daan, after burning
[09:00] <jo3> John`, are you using gnome?
[09:00] <John`> yes
[09:00] <patrlck> if I reboot everything is fine. if I log-off it is not fine
[09:00] <pike__> John`: no but just use nautilus if you arent stuck at cli
[09:00] <daan> patrlck: hmm strange, do you eject the burned dvd?
[09:00] <iarwain> fusheh: it's like a standard error (i find lot's of the same errors on internet) but none helps me xD
[09:00] <furenku> i built fst 1.9 and 1.8 after having built 1.7.1, when i try to open any of the newer two, i get "wine: could not load ... Bad EXE format for
[09:00] <patrlck> daan, yes I'm burning a 2nd one
[09:00] <jo3> just open up a file browser and type smb://yourservername
[09:00] <patrlck> daan, I used hdparm but it didn't helped
[09:00] <pike__> John`: or i can change it real quick if you need to do it from cli
[09:00] <jo3> it will prompt you for a username
[09:00] <John`> cli?
[09:01] <daan> patrlck: so it is all slow after burning and all dvd's are out of the burner?
[09:01] <jo3> no gui
[09:01] <patrlck> daan, could it be some kind of locked on files or VRAM or something ?
[09:01] <patrlck> daan,  yup all dvds are out of burner
[09:01] <petervk> John`: cli = command line interface
[09:01] <daan> patrlck: no experience with that sorry
[09:01] <John`> oh ok
[09:01] <John`> if you have time pike
[09:01] <daan> patrlck: only thing i can think of is that the burning cleared the harddisk cache
[09:02] <chadeldridge> none of those are telling me anythying
[09:02] <AaronMT> patrlck have you checked that whatever burning software you are using isnt a non responding process
[09:02] <patrlck> AaronMT, yaeh I killed it
[09:02] <KurtKraut> When I plug in my brand new pendrive I can't get write permission to it. I've already loaded nautilus as root and I still unable to change files on it. How can I set automount with writing permissions.
[09:02] <patrlck> as I said even if i logoff it doesnt help
[09:02] <mhz`> hmm, question about setting up eggdrop..i used synaptic to install it...for the config file
[09:02] <mhz`> any ideas where that'd be?
[09:02] <daan> patrlck: did you try different software?
[09:02] <aspetos> can anyone help me with a networking problem i'm having on ubuntu with an openvpn setup?
[09:02] <iarwain> mhz`: most likely in /etc/eggdrop
[09:03] <patrlck> daan, not recently
[09:03] <mhz`> merci
[09:03] <iarwain> mhz`: i think
[09:03] <daan> patrlck: what are you using?
[09:03] <mhz`> let's find out :)
[09:03] <patrlck> k3b
[09:03] <daan> patrlck: you could try gnomebaker or brasero then
[09:03] <mrfisk> How can i download unrar ? :p
[09:03] <daan> mrfisk: sudo apt-get install unrar
[09:03] <hero> mrfisk: sudo apt-get install unrar
[09:03] <daan> lol
[09:03] <mhz`> neg, not there
[09:04] <mrfisk> lol ok :D
[09:04] <patrlck> daan, is it possible to clear vram and all temp stuff ?
[09:04] <daan> patrlck: what do you mean with vram? swapspace?
[09:04] <mrfisk> now i got unrar ? :d
[09:04] <mrfisk> lol
[09:04] <evan_> hey just dist-upgraded ubuntu but it gave an error and it quit updating
[09:04] <daan> mrfisk: yes :P
[09:04] <mrfisk> some nice stuff in this ubuntu :p
[09:05] <iarwain> mhz`: perhaps a "locate eggdrop" can help =)
[09:05] <oskude> hi, i got (atlast) a new pc. it has a 500gb SATA hd but installer crashes at partition, and cfdisk says "Bad primary partition 3: Partition ends in the final partial cylind
[09:05] <oskude> " what could i look ?
[09:05] <patrlck> daan, well it has to be something related to my hard drive
[09:05] <evan_> Unpacking cpp (from .../cpp_4%3a4.1.2-1ubuntu1_i386.deb) ...
[09:05] <evan_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:05] <evan_>  /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xorg-video-savage_1%3a2.1.2-1_i386.deb
[09:05] <evan_> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:05] <daan> patrlck: yes but what do you mean with vram
[09:05] <ubunut> i grabbed the unrar too ty
[09:05] <hero> !paste
[09:05] <magnetron> evan_: do you have automatix installed? it is known to wreck dist-upgrades
[09:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:05] <patrlck> daan, memory on my hard drive
[09:06] <setuid> How do I keep gdm installed, but not launch it on startup?
[09:06] <patrlck> memory used by the system
[09:06] <evan_> magnetron if automatix is in the basepackets ive not installed any packets with synaptic so far
[09:06] <daan> patrlck: swap space i think you mean then or the fast memory cache on the drive?
[09:06] <setuid> I guess I'll just chmod 000 /etc/init.d/gdm
[09:06] <John`> wow
[09:06] <John`> nice script pike
[09:06] <patrlck> daan, maybe both
[09:07] <John`> how you come up with this?
[09:07] <jo3> setuid, you can remove the file from /etc/rc3.d/gdm
[09:07] <John`> haha
[09:07] <setuid> jo3, That's sloppy
[09:07] <daan> if you want to clear the swapspace then you can do that with the command swapoff
[09:07] <setuid> daan, swapoff doesn't clear swapspace
[09:07] <jo3> setuid, not really
[09:07] <magnetron> evan_: what is the error during the dist upgrade?
[09:07] <daan> setuid: it doesn't ?
[09:07] <IceLink> can anyone tell me what's wrong with this line:
[09:07] <IceLink> sudo setfacl -m d:u::rw,d:g:www-data:rw,d:m:rw,d:o:--- /var/www
[09:07] <setuid> daan, No, it doesn't.
[09:07] <patrlck> setuid, is there a command to do it then ?
[09:07] <daan> setuid: well it did when i did it
[09:08] <setuid> daan, In 12+ years, swapoff has never cleared swap
[09:08] <setuid> patrlck, Do you want to clear it, or deallocate it?
[09:08] <lordlucan> I just tried setting up a usb stick for use with the livecd and persistence....but how do I save the changes I've made ? Does it automatically save when I restart?
[09:08] <patrlck> just clear it
[09:08] <evan_> magnetron: Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:08] <evan_>  /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xorg-video-savage_1%3a2.1.2-1_i386.deb
[09:08] <evan_> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:08] <AaronMT> swapon, swapoff - enable/disable devices and files for paging and swap
[09:08] <daan> setuid: well i'll try it again now
[09:08] <setuid> patrlck, You need to overwrite it with junk data
[09:08] <setuid> Then mkswap it
[09:08] <rambo3> dd ?
[09:08] <patrlck> then I guess it wouldn't solve my problem
[09:08] <setuid> 'strings /dev/urandom'
[09:09] <setuid> patrlck, What is the problme?
[09:09] <fusheh> !paste | evan_
[09:09] <ubotu> evan_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:09] <cap> How can you convert a whole folder of one audio file type to another? Without losing much quality.
[09:09] <daan> setuid: allright maybe it doesn't clear it but it moves it from swap to memory
[09:09] <patrlck> setuid,  Whenever I burn a dvd everything is fine but after that ALL discs access are VERY slow
[09:09] <IceLink> cap if it's mp3 to ogg, use mp32ogg << i like
[09:09] <setuid> patrlck, That has nothign to do with swap
[09:09] <patrlck> and as I said, I need to completely reboot to return to normal
[09:09] <lordlucan> I just tried setting up a usb stick for use with the livecd and persistence....but how do I save the changes I've made ? Does it automatically save when I restart?
[09:10] <setuid> patrlck, Sounds like an IO problem
[09:10] <Ayabara> I formatted an external drive as hfs+ in ubuntu, but os x says "The disk you inserted was not readable by this computer" when I turn it on. Any advice.
[09:10] <cap> I'm trying to convert m4a to another format that will allow me to write a CD
[09:10] <pike__> John`: sorry im a little busy umm ive updated the paste it might work. also just take a look at the commands they are pretty straight forward.
[09:10] <IceLink> oh.
[09:10] <patrlck> setuid, it has to be but I don't really know what to look for
[09:10] <John`> thanks
[09:10] <cap> any solutions?
[09:10] <daan> patrlck: he is gone...
[09:11] <patrlck> damn
[09:11] <````bulldogg> Hello
[09:11] <````bulldogg> can someone help me a minute.
[09:11] <lordlucan> i set up a usb key for persistence but how do the changes I make in LiveCD get saved? Do I save them manually somehow?
[09:11] <mick_> Hi, is there any way to use the 7.04 live CD to install on a machine with 128Mb RAM?
[09:11] <daan> patrlck: do you have your harddrive on the same ide cable as your burner
[09:11] <Cait> i just intalled ubuntu and i get an error about it not recognizing my screen. how do i fix this?
[09:11] <patrlck> daan, do you know a command that will list all locked files on my system ?
[09:11] <iarwain> ````bulldogg: ask your question ;)
[09:11] <patrlck> daan, I,m not sure about that
[09:11] <wdar> Agent orange. ubunto please
[09:12] <patrlck> let me check
[09:12] <AaronMT> !xorg
[09:12] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:12] <daan> patrlck: lsof
[09:12] <ditoa> r9ight
[09:12] <ditoa> ubuntu doesnt use the root account yes?
[09:12] <AaronMT> !sudo
[09:12] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:12] <ubunut> wont allow u to logon graphically
[09:12] <ubunut> with it correct
[09:12] <ditoa> but
[09:12] <ditoa> swat needs to run as root
[09:12] <````bulldogg> I have Ubuntu Ultimate 1.3 installed... I just went through the install in one of the forums to install WOW... it boots up goes through the cinema and then crashes.. I tried to go tweak the wtf config file as part of the trouble shooting.... WoW is not getting in far enough to create this file before it crashes what can I do to fix it
[09:13] <ditoa> so i need to set the root password
[09:13] <magnetron> !enter | ditoa. ubunut
[09:13] <ubotu> ditoa. ubunut: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:13] <PriceChild> ditoa, what needs to run as root?
[09:13] <ditoa> my apologies
[09:13] <ompaul> !rootsudo | ditoa
[09:13] <ubotu> ditoa: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:13] <PriceChild> ditoa, root should only be used for system administration...
[09:14] <iarwain> ````bulldogg: did WoW get installed? or is it crashing there?
[09:14] <patrlck> shit I gotta close my computer, bbl
[09:14] <mick_> ditoa: if you ever need to _be_ root you can always use "sudo su -"
[09:14] <````bulldogg> It installed. When I try to boot it up to play its crashes right after the cinema is over with.  The cinema works and looks great
[09:15] <ditoa> apparently swat uses the root account
[09:15] <ditoa> i normally just "sudo bash"
[09:15] <Cait> if i have an AMD processor do i HAVE to use the amd option when i downlad the iso? i read somewhere that the amd version is bad?? could this be my problem?
[09:15] <ditoa> to get a root level shell
[09:15] <newb> wowwwwww
[09:15] <magnetron> mick_: it's not sudo su -  , it's sudo -s
[09:15] <newb> petervk: u there?
[09:15] <MajorPayne> sudo -i is a good way to get a root shell.
[09:16] <````bulldogg> I installed it using wine
[09:16] <PriceChild> Cait, you're mistaking intel vs amd, and 32bit vs 64bit
[09:16] <iarwain> ````bulldogg: can you start it from terminal? (wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files\Blizzard\etc etc) ? btw, say my name when talking to me, it's easier for me to read your response that way
[09:16] <PriceChild> Cait, if you have a 32bit proc, use the 32bit iso
[09:16] <mick_> magnetron: what's up with "sudo su -"?
[09:16] <ompaul> ditoa, what you do in the privacy of your own command line is your business, however you are asked to go to that web page, a lot of work went into it
[09:16] <ompaul> mick_, lots
[09:16] <mick_> :)
[09:16] <PriceChild> Cait, likewise, if you have a 64bit proc, you "may" want to use the 64bit install disk.
[09:16] <erUSUL> mick_: no root in ubuntu
[09:16] <````bulldogg> iarwain Ok let me try it real quick
[09:16] <Cait> but do i have to?
[09:16] <erUSUL> mick_: use 'sudo -i'
[09:16] <mick_> uid 0? :)
[09:17] <PriceChild> Cait, the 32bit disc should always work
[09:17] <mrfisk> Where could i find Geforce GO 7700 drivers for ubuntu ?
[09:17] <magnetron> !noroot > mick_
[09:17] <Cait> ooo ok then.
[09:17] <PriceChild> mrfisk, it will work by default
[09:17] <PriceChild> mrfisk, if you want 3d acceleration, /msg ubotu nvidia
[09:17] <Cait> wow all this is more complicated than i imagined it. i wish i could jsut get thru the install haha
[09:17] <erUSUL> !nvidia | mrfisk
[09:17] <mrfisk> thanks =)
[09:17] <ubotu> mrfisk: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:18] <MajorPayne> 15:10 < patrlck> setuid, it has to be but I don't really know what to look for
[09:18] <MajorPayne> 15:10 < John`> thanks [15:10]  [MajorPayne(+ei)]  [3:#ubuntu(+Lcfntz #ubuntu-unregged)]  [Act: 5] 
[09:18] <MajorPayne> [#ubuntu] 
[09:18] <PriceChild> Cait, so you've installed it via "sudo apt-get install swat" right?
[09:18] <MajorPayne> Whops.  Sorry.
[09:18] <Cait> i tried taht but it says it can't access it
[09:18] <mick_> is there any way to use the 7.04 live CD to install on a machine with 128Mb RAM?
[09:18] <Cait> do i need to be hooked up to the internet?
[09:18] <PriceChild> Cait, yes
[09:18] <Cait> how do i do that if i use wireless?
[09:18] <jepler> I understand that "breezy" is no longer supported, but are there any remaining mirrors for its packages?  they seem to all have been removed from archive.ubuntu.com.
[09:18] <````bulldogg> iarwain how can I view hidden files in the terminal?
[09:19] <iarwain> ````bulldogg: ls -lah
[09:19] <preaction> ````bulldogg: ls -a
[09:19] <jo3> i know there must be a way to disable quit/connect messages on xchat? anyone know?
[09:19] <Sneakyfox> installing from fresh Ubuntu 7.04 (64-bit) CD-image. Get the boot screen and select install. After some time i get a CLI. The log shows "mounting /dev/sda1 on /cdrom failed: no such device"
[09:20] <mhz`> hmm..i apt-get install eggdrop, i can type eggdrop from terminal..apt-get install tcliand loads but mentions the config file, however when i try to ./configure a source of eggdrop it says no tcl found
[09:20] <Flanker37> i have an older compaq pressario laptop i am trying to install 7.04 on, but after install screen laptop is just sitting on a black screen for more than hour and a half, any suggestions
[09:20] <PriceChild> mhz`, you'll need libtcl-whatever
[09:20] <````bulldogg> okay maybe I am stupid how do I get an .exe to execute at terminal
[09:20] <uberushaximus> with wine?
[09:20] <Cait> is there a way to connect to the internet during install if i have wireless?
[09:20] <fusheh> ````bulldogg: .exe o_O
[09:20] <jo3> wine
[09:21] <PriceChild> ````bulldogg, we dont' use exes...
[09:21] <iarwain> ````bulldogg: wine program.exe
[09:21] <fusheh> ````bulldogg: Gotta get some wine :o
[09:21] <PriceChild> ````bulldogg, what are you actually trying to do?
[09:21] <ompaul> ````bulldogg, well first you don't need the ``` and then you do "wine /path/to/exe"  after sudo apt-get install wine
[09:21] <herbaliser> hi does ubuntu 7.04 support WPA2-PSK?
[09:22] <PriceChild> herbaliser, depends on the wireless card
[09:22] <herbaliser> ipw3945
[09:22] <jo3> wpasupplicant does
[09:22] <PriceChild> herbaliser, should be good
[09:22] <leku> hey when I switch to beryl
[09:22] <leku> I lose my window borders
[09:22] <leku> how do I fix please?
[09:22] <ompaul> leku, #ubuntu-effects
[09:22] <leku> thx
[09:22] <herbaliser> leku www.ubuntuguide.org ther is a howto
[09:22] <fusheh> Sneakyfox: The error is straight forward. Does /dev/sda1 exist?
[09:23] <jo3> any xchat users, how do you disable quit/join messages
[09:24] <Sneakyfox> fusheh: have no idea. I just downloaded the image, burned, and booted. Get the boot menu and select install, then it stops
[09:24] <Sneakyfox> google told me to check /casper.log, which is what I did
[09:24] <Jack_Sparrow> jo3: I never did find that out.. I switched to Konversation
[09:24] <ubunut> heh corrupption
[09:24] <ubunut> sound liek to me
[09:24] <ubunut> try redownload it
[09:25] <ubunut> check cd for defects
[09:25] <fusheh> jo3: irc_conf_mode maybe?
[09:25] <Flanker37> can ubuntu be installed with a USB flash drive, or external DVD drive?
[09:25] <ubunut> yes usb
[09:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Flanker37: yes
[09:25] <Sneakyfox> ubunut: me?
[09:25] <ubunut> idk external dvd
[09:25] <Flanker37> how
[09:25] <ubunut> yes u
[09:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Flanker37: let me find the link.. is usb bootable?
[09:25] <Flanker37> no
[09:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Flanker37: not all are
[09:25] <ubunut> depends on your bios
[09:25] <Flanker37> its crap
[09:26] <ubunut> correct?
[09:26] <Sneakyfox> ubunut: when i do the check, the same error comes up
[09:26] <Flanker37> its old
[09:26] <ubunut> redoanload it
[09:26] <Sneakyfox> ok.
[09:26] <ubunut> happened to me couple times
[09:26] <mrfisk> It seems my realtek built in soundcard is installed, but can't hear anything. What may be causing this ?
[09:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Flanker37: If usb cant boot then I dont know how
[09:26] <ditoa> rightyho
[09:26] <ditoa> i read that rootsudo page
[09:26] <Sneakyfox> running 64-bit image btw, hardware is intel santa rosa platform with nvidia 8600 gt
[09:26] <Flanker37> i cant understand why it isnt installing off the CD, kbuntu wont intstall either
[09:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Flanker37: where does it stop
[09:27] <raphael_> \\ls
[09:27] <Flanker37> it sits on a black screen with a dash flashing in the top right corner, for 1hr and a half
[09:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Flanker37: try hitting F6 at the first menu then typing noapic and then enter
[09:27] <Flanker37> left sorry
[09:28] <Flanker37> ok
[09:28] <Flanker37> will give that a shot
[09:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Flanker37: Ehat hardware are we talking about
[09:28] <Flanker37> ?
[09:28] <ditoa> how do i configure swat so that it runs correctly without having to enable root?
[09:28] <fr33z>   d
[09:29] <sidny4> aside from the !lvm info ubotu will give me, does anyone know where I can learn about LVM? We are planning on deploying it on our servers and doing lvm snapshots (supposedly a fast and efficient backup)
[09:29] <Flanker37> whats ehat
[09:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Flanker37: What is your hardware setup?
[09:29] <uakkeri> undefined reference to `vtable for Sorter' <- what is that
[09:29] <mrfisk> Is mp3 not supported by default ?
[09:29] <ubunut> i have a machine that wouldn't take xp home kept snagging on install so i tried to install the ubuntu on it did same thing
[09:29] <ubunut> any ideas there?
[09:29] <wa9no> !mp3
[09:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:29] <Jack_Sparrow> mrfisk: No it cant be but..
[09:29] <Jack_Sparrow> !mp3
[09:29] <wa9no> mrfisk: ...
[09:30] <Flanker37> its an old compaq pressario laptop, with cd drive, not dvd combi
[09:30] <nesssy> adieu. good night
[09:30] <magnetron> sidny4: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[09:30] <Flanker37> celeron
[09:30] <Ayabara> anyone using the hfs+ fs? I _need_ help. Ubuntu can read my hfs+ drive, but OS X can't
[09:30] <mrfisk> Well. doesnt even run in VLC.. mp3's i mean.. and no sound in movies either
[09:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Flanker37: I would reburn the cd from iso at a very slow speed.. It seems to help with those old laptops, I have several
[09:31] <Flanker37> ok sure, i burned it at 32
[09:32] <````bulldogg> 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b
[09:32] <````bulldogg> there is a lot more than that but I seem to have a video problem
[09:32] <oskude> why cant i use umlauts in computer name ? (installer)
[09:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Flanker37: I did mine at the slowest not 1 speed
[09:33] <Anlar> ````bulldogg: don't use 32-bit colors, your monitor can do 24 only anyways
[09:33] <Flanker37> i think my slowest on nero is 4x
[09:34] <````bulldogg> Anlar can you tell me where to go change that for the game
[09:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Flanker37: that is fine.. just to eliminate that as a problem
[09:34] <mrfisk> Installed the restricted thing.. still no working :o
[09:35] <towlieban> hi guys
[09:36] <magnetron> welcome, towlieban
[09:36] <Flanker37> hmm track at once, or disk at once?
[09:36] <Jack_Sparrow> disk at once should be fine
[09:36] <Flanker37> righto
[09:36] <Jack_Sparrow> havent used nero in awhile
[09:36] <towlieban> im going to be installing ubuntu and running it in a VM. should i get 7.04 or 6.06 ?
[09:36] <PriceChild> towlieban, what do you want to do with it?
[09:37] <magnetron> towlieban: which VM?
[09:37] <chadeldridge> towlieban: eithor or will work in a VM ... what are you doing with it ?
[09:37] <towlieban> PriceChild use it as a desktop o.s.
[09:37] <fusheh> towlieban: Go with the latest version eh?
[09:37] <towlieban> magnetron parallels
[09:37] <PriceChild> towlieban, i say 7.04
[09:37] <chadeldridge> 7.04 then
[09:37] <towlieban> ok
[09:37] <magnetron> towlieban: 7.04 ftw
[09:37] <towlieban> ftw ?
[09:37] <daan> Flanker37: try this http://www.snapfiles.com/get/burncdcc.html
[09:37] <gangsterlicious> for the win
[09:37] <fusheh> towlieban: For The Win
[09:37] <chadeldridge> ftw = for the win
[09:38] <towlieban> oh
[09:38] <Flanker37> burning now, does ubuntu give you the option to format HD?
[09:38] <gangsterlicious> you failed
[09:38] <chadeldridge> bunch of game geeks here . lol
[09:38] <daan> Flanker37: yes
[09:38] <fusheh> xD
[09:38] <Flanker37> great
[09:38] <ditoa> hey. i have installed/configured swat. it is running as it prompts me for username and password but does not accept my account ??
[09:38] <Flanker37> got win2000 on now and its reeeeeeeely slow
[09:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Flanker37: yes
[09:38] <Beriant> does anyone know how i would go about installing windows xp professional after installing ubuntu,ive got the recovery cd but i dont have the professional SP 1 cd
[09:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Flanker37: just tell it to use entire drive
[09:39] <Beriant> anyway i can download it?
[09:39] <fusheh> ditoa: You arent entering the right credentials?
[09:39] <John`> pike_
[09:39] <John`> are you still there?
[09:39] <ditoa> fusheh: i guess not but there is only 1 account on this machine. mine. so i dont see how it is wrong :(
[09:39] <````bulldogg> I have a integrated intel graphics card in this laptop... are there certain things you must do for it
[09:39] <soothsayer> Is anyone familiar with debarchiver? I keep getting "Error: Update Release File" errors in syslog.
[09:39] <jo3> for what?
[09:39] <fusheh> ditoa: Dunno what swat is, but maybe it has it's own user accounts for that app thinger?
[09:40] <ditoa> well apparently i have to login as root
[09:40] <John`> jo3: did you say you know how to mount stuff in a network drive?
[09:40] <powergoal1> I am about to install kubuntu onto a new acer 5570 laptop that came running windows vista premium.  The laptop has a switch for toggling wireless, but the switch doesn't seem to work in the livecd version of ubuntu.  Does anyone have experience in fixing this or know where i might look to find the solution?
[09:40] <ditoa> however ubuntu disables this by default so i dunno if i should enable it or not :/
[09:40] <magnetron> Beriant: that would be piracy. we don't discuss piracy here. Also, we don't give Windows support here. try ##windows channel
[09:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Beriant: If you google it 99 out of 100 set it up with windows on first.  The other can be done.. you can go with the crowd or go with the 1 in 100
[09:40] <PriceChild> !sudo | ditoa
[09:40] <ubotu> ditoa: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:40] <fusheh> ditoa: You can't login as root unless you enable it. But, it shouldn't be needed. Run it as sudo
[09:40] <towlieban> has anyone here installed ubuntu under parallels ?
[09:40] <mariooliveira> http_proxy= " http://proxy.example.com:8080 " changing this variable  i can use diferent proxys but how do i run 2 times wget using diferent proxys at same time? is it possible?
[09:40] <gangsterlicious> rxvt unicode
[09:40] <stefg> !keytouch | powergoal1
[09:40] <gangsterlicious> oopw
[09:40] <ubotu> powergoal1: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[09:41] <fusheh> ditoa: If it's gui based run it with gksudo
[09:41] <powergoal1> stefg: thanks :D
[09:41] <PriceChild> ditoa, you will not need to run anything but the apt-get install as root... as its just a web interface?
[09:41] <ditoa> its a web gui for samba
[09:41] <jo3> John`: you can mount it for longterm use or just browse the windows shares
[09:41] <Beriant> does anyone know how i would go about installing windows xp professional after installing ubuntu,ive got the recovery cd but i dont have the professional SP 1 cd
[09:41] <Beriant> anyway i can download it?
[09:41] <vox754> My firefox crashed with this message "Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/i386/dl-machine.h: 554: elf_machine_rel_relative: Assertion `((reloc->r_info) & 0xff) == 8' failed!" anybody recognizes it?
[09:41] <ditoa> i dont know how to configure swat to let my account login with root level access
[09:41] <PriceChild> !windows | Beriant
[09:41] <ubotu> Beriant: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[09:41] <Dodek> hello
[09:41] <stefg> !piracy | Beriant
[09:41] <fusheh> vox754: Google is your friend?
[09:41] <ubotu> Beriant: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[09:41] <alexIdoia> hey I have a problem connecting two boxes via ssh, I tried ssh LAN_IP and I got a sss: connect to host LAN_IP port 22: Connection refused, what can it be ?
[09:41] <John`> mount long term require /etc/fstab?
[09:41] <ditoa> the application is running fine as the website loads, it is just that i cannot login as only root can
[09:41] <John`> you can't mount temporary?
[09:42] <Beriant> ubotu,its not piracy ive got the cd key and i bought it
[09:42] <Mocheeze> Hi all. I have a few thousand photos I need to scan. At the same time, I want to switch to Ubuntu full time. I'd like to be able to scan a full bed of photos at once and have software auto crop them into separate files for me. Can anyone recommend either scanning software or post-processing software that can help me accomplish this? Thanks for the help!
[09:42] <PriceChild> ditoa, I guess you need to add a user to samba then.
[09:42] <vox754> fusheh, hahaha... my firefox crashed and doesn't open again...
[09:42] <magnetron> mariooliveira: you can prepend the wget commandline with declaration, like this: http_proxy=proxyurl wget fileurl
[09:42] <fusheh> vox754: sounds evil.
[09:42] <Dodek> one of the ps/2 slots in my mainboard is broken so i'm not able to move the mouse pointer with mouse. do you know any way to move it with keyboard?
[09:42] <PriceChild> magnetron, you could also put that in .wgetrc ;)
[09:42] <Beriant> !windows
[09:42] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[09:42] <mrfisk> !sound
[09:43] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[09:43] <jo3> John`: if you have samba installed you can use Nautilus to browse the shares
[09:43] <linxeh> anyone know of a good Linux anti-FUD site aimed at IT managers? I could do with one to help sell a migration from Windows servers to linux :o
[09:43] <PriceChild> Dodek, ctrl+shift+num lock
[09:43] <magnetron> PriceChild: yes, but he asked for how to use different proxies for different instances of wget
[09:43] <hardwire> moo
[09:43] <PriceChild> Dodek, if the numlock is on, then you can then use the numpad to move it
[09:43] <PriceChild> magnetron, ah sorry
[09:43] <phpwner> 8[09:43] <hardwire> wow! a penis
[09:43] <hardwire> thanks for sharing wow!
[09:43] <PriceChild> !ohmy
[09:43] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:44] <hardwire> just amazing.. simply amazing
[09:44] <Dodek> PriceChild, wow, it does work
[09:44] <hardwire> I can go on living my day now
[09:44] <PriceChild> Dodek, its ace isn't it :)
[09:44] <vox754> PriceChild, be ready!
[09:44] <Dodek> i didn't knew about it
[09:44] <mazzen> hi! is it possible to get build infos (autogen/configure parameters) out of existing ubuntu packages?
[09:44] <Dodek> PriceChild, thanks :)
[09:44] <towlieban> has anyone here installed ubuntu under parallels ?
[09:44] <PriceChild> Dodek, I love things like that... and hilight and middle click etc.
[09:44] <mariooliveira> magnetron, tanks :)  merry cristmas
[09:44] <PriceChild> mazzen, yes... I think.
[09:45] <mazzen> PriceChild: hey, that would be wonderful :)
[09:45] <magnetron> you're welcome, mariooliveira
[09:45] <Dodek> i discovered highlight and middle click long time ago. now i try to use it even if i'm on windows :)
[09:45] <Dodek> i can't live without it
[09:45] <pacmaneatsmynucl> How do i install/compile an xmms plugin?
[09:46] <Dodek> PriceChild, one question - how to simulate mouse clicks with it? :)
[09:46] <PriceChild> Dodek, i think its 0... or 5.... experiement :)
[09:46] <Dodek> i'
[09:46] <Dodek> i'm trying but i'm still getting no result
[09:47] <PriceChild> Dodek, it is 0
[09:47] <PriceChild> Dodek, on the numpad...
[09:47] <PriceChild> mazzen, hmm I thought there was an apt command... maybe not... *investigates iwth dpkg*
[09:47] <PriceChild> mazzen, if all else fails, you can download the source using apt-get source and investigate debian/rules
[09:47] <Mocheeze> I have a few thousand photos I need to scan. At the same time, I want to switch to Ubuntu full time. I'd like to be able to scan a full bed of photos at once and have software auto crop them into separate files for me. Can anyone recommend either scanning software or post-processing software that can help me accomplish this?
[09:47] <Dodek> PriceChild, weird, it works now but it didn't few seconds ago
[09:47] <mrfisk> What can i do.. it seems installed but can't hear anything.. have alsa mixer on
[09:48] <mrfisk> sound that is
[09:48] <Dodek> thanks anyway
[09:48] <sx66> how do you put the cpu, mem, etc power usage on the desktop similar to DSL? what app is that?
[09:48] <Dodek> tomorrow i'll buy usb mouse
[09:48] <powergoal1> stefg: Ok, I looked at the recommendation that you made regarding my wireless card, but I don't think that solves the issue.  The toggle switch on my laptop does not have an "on" and "off" set of positions, rather a "toggle" "rest" position.  So when I move it to "toggle" it will switch from off to on, or vis versa.  However, this function does not seem to be working while in linux.  I am wondering if there might be informati
[09:48] <n2diy> sx66 top
[09:48] <sx66> n2diy: besides that command
[09:49] <PriceChild> mazzen, hmm can't find anything better than checking the rules file in the source sorry :S
[09:49] <sx66> I want an app that reads all of that....and displays it on the desktop
[09:49] <kain> hello
[09:50] <PriceChild> Hi kain
[09:50] <kain> i just installed ubuntu feisty fawn and ndiswrapper and my wireless driver
[09:50] <soothsayer> sx66: gkrellm?
[09:50] <````bulldogg> thanks for the help everyone
[09:50] <sx66> k
[09:50] <kain> using wifi-radar to connect wirelessly with no luck it detects and connects to the ip but google.com displays nothing
[09:50] <stefg> powergoal1: so this might be a proprietray extension to the bios or acpi, or the driver... i'd enter make and model of your machine together with 'linux' or 'ubuntu' to google and see if there's other folks who found a solution
[09:50] <n2diy> sx66 menu > system > admin > system monitor?
[09:51] <powergoal1> stefg: ok, thankyou for your help! :D
[09:51] <mazzen> PriceChild: never mind! i'll take a loot at it!
[09:51] <kain> installed wireless assistant and that won't work at all it's like it doesn;t even attempt to connect
[09:51] <kain> i was wondering what else i should try?
[09:52] <PriceChild> mazzen, or you could use packages.ubuntu.com, and find the diff.gz's such as http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/pidgin/pidgin_2.0.2-0ubuntu1.diff.gz to find the debian/rules to see what options are there.
[09:53] <kain> PriceChild? anyone?
[09:53] <PriceChild> mazzen, instead of downloading the entire source package
[09:53] <PriceChild> kain, I don't know sorry
[09:53] <vox754> !please | kain
[09:53] <ubotu> kain: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[09:54] <fusheh> vox754: I can't really find any solutions to your problem. It seems like a really nasty bug o.o
[09:54] <mhz`> anyone know how to change the character set of an eggdrop?
[09:54] <hoelk> hmm
[09:54] <Gokee2_Laptop> Can I boot the live cd without a gui?  The gui takes forever and then ends up with a brown screen with a non-moving curser.  The computer seems rather locked up at that point and will not respond to ctr+Backspace or Ctr+F1-4
[09:54] <hoelk> i need some help with my english ;)
[09:55] <mazzen> PriceChild: hey thank! thats a good hint!  i also got the hint to take a look at the build logs of launchpad.net both helps me a lot! thanks!
[09:55] <PriceChild> mazzen, good luck :)
[09:55] <hoelk> whats "making a cigarette out of papers and tobacco" called?
[09:55] <hoelk> there has to be a sly word for it
[09:55] <hoelk> ;)
[09:55] <vox754> fusheh, oh, thanks though. I think I'm running out of memory, because I have 512 MB. May be time to buy an extra GB.
[09:55] <n2diy> hoelk: file roller?
[09:55] <PriceChild> Gokee2_Laptop, once booted you could switch to tty and shut down the gui...?
[09:56] <dxdt> hoelk: that is really interesting.  I have 4 friends that do that I cannot think of one sly word.  Now I'm puzzled.
[09:56] <Sneakyfox> installing from fresh Ubuntu 7.04 (64-bit) CD-image (2 different cd's). Get the boot screen and select install. After some time i get a CLI, "cant access tty; job control turned off". /casper.log shows "mounting /dev/sda1 on /cdrom failed: no such device". Why? What can i do?
[09:56] <hoelk> hmm
[09:56] <CarmenSandiego> Sorry to keep on with this topic, but apparently shredding on ext3 is fine so long as it's only journaling file metadata - ie. if it is in the default "data=ordered" mode. So the 'shred' command should still render a given file fairly unrecoverable. Theoretically, to erase free space, one need only create a file big enough to fill said free space, and then run the shred command on that.
[09:56] <Gokee2_Laptop> PriceChild, It won`t respond to a tty switch or a xkill signal
[09:56] <hoelk> i wouldn't know what to ask the dictionary
[09:57] <newb> hey can someone gimme a hand?
[09:57] <gomez01> can i use a cargps and connect it to my laptop?
[09:57] <newb> i am having probs loading ubuntu onto my laptop
[09:57] <fusheh> hoelk: rollies o.o
[09:57] <Gokee2_Laptop> O their it goes this time is seems to be working
[09:57] <pacmaneatsmynucl> what do i need to type into terminal to install/compile xmms plugins?
[09:57] <ramza3> is there  a real player for ubuntu?
[09:57] <PriceChild> Gokee2_Laptop, if i would you i would be patient
[09:58] <hoelk> hmm someone in another channel suggested "roll up a cigarette"
[09:58] <PriceChild> ramza3, you can play real media etc. on any player if you install the correct codecs
[09:58] <newb> how come i cannot get ubuntu cd to load on my dell laptop??
[09:58] <Catsceo> Hello, I wanted to know if there would be any problems I should know of when installing Ubuntu 6.06 LTS on a iBook G3.
[09:58] <ramza3> PriceChild, through apt?
[09:58] <PriceChild> newb, change the boot order to make sure it looks for cdrom before hd
[09:58] <PriceChild> !mp3 | ramza3
[09:58] <ubotu> ramza3: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:58] <ompaul> !offtopic | hoelk
[09:58] <ubotu> hoelk: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:59] <Gokee2_Laptop> PriceChild, Ok thanks, Do you happen to know the name of the installer or should I go look it up?
[09:59] <dxdt> stupid question, how do I add a user to a group?  usermod?  groupmod?  huh?
[09:59] <Gokee2_Laptop> (From a tty)
[09:59] <gomez01> pacmaneatsmynucl -  do apt-cache search xmms
[09:59] <PriceChild> Gokee2_Laptop, the installer?
[09:59] <newb> pricechild:yeah i entered the nboot menu and changed it to the dvdrom and it juss ends up at the windows did nnot load properly screen after like a min of blackscreen
[09:59] <PriceChild> Gokee2_Laptop, there is no cli installer
[09:59] <gomez01> you will see all xmms packages
[09:59] <PriceChild> Gokee2_Laptop, use the "alternate cd" for a cli instillation
[09:59] <gomez01> to install sudo apt-get install package name
[09:59] <Gokee2_Laptop> PriceChild, To install ubuntu on the hard drive
[09:59] <PriceChild> newb, well then you didn't save settings or soemthing
[10:00] <bluefox83> anyone remember hwo to rotate the cube with compiz?
[10:00] <newb> pricvechild:hmmm brb lemme try again
[10:00] <PriceChild> bluefox83, #ubuntu-effects please
[10:00] <Gokee2_Laptop> Sorry...  I am at a tty on the live cd and I want to install ubuntu onto the hard drive :)
[10:01] <Ayabara> can linux write to hfs drives?
[10:01] <mark____> can somebody point me towards info on upgrading my kernle from the 7.o4 default?
[10:01] <towlieban> if i want to compile the kernel from source code in ubuntu, do i do it the same way as any other distro ?
[10:01] <Catsceo> no help for me then? :<
[10:01] <towlieban> Ayabara i dont think so but i think theres read-only access iirc
[10:01] <PriceChild> mark____, why do you want to?
[10:01] <mrsno> towlieban you can but why not do it the debian/ubuntu way :)
[10:01] <pacmaneatsmynucl> Good suggestion, but it's not on there
[10:01] <PriceChild> !kernel | towlieban
[10:01] <ubotu> towlieban: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:01] <PriceChild> towlieban, "don't"
[10:01] <mrsno> towlieban try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:01] <towlieban> thanks
[10:02] <mark____> having some hardware problems that I hear are fixed in the latest kernle
[10:02] <dxdt> I added my user to a group but when I type groups as that user the new group isn't listed, what gives? :-./
[10:02] <Sneakyfox> anyone know what to do about "mounting /dev/sda1 on /cdrom failed: no such device" at ubuntu install?
[10:02] <mwe> dxdt log out and back in
[10:02] <Ayabara> towlieban, ok. I have to share an external drive between linux and osx, and I'm beginning to see fat32 as the only alternative...
[10:03] <towlieban> Ayabara i am in that exact same situation
[10:03] <pacmaneatsmynucl> The readmes that came with the file tell me to run make clean, make and make install, but what file do i run them on?
[10:03] <numus> in mplayer why cant i go into outside the linux partition?
[10:04] <jerkface03> Does anyone have any beginner guides on linux/ubuntu development?
[10:04] <alexIdoia> how do you start sshd ? I tried sshd but it asks for an absolute path
[10:04] <n2diy> pacmaneatsmynucl: just run them in the directory you expand the files in.
[10:04] <anto9us> numus: mplayer should see any mounted filesystem
[10:04] <n2diy> expand/expanded
[10:04] <towlieban> Ayabara i have a 100GB external HD that i share between windows and os x. i eventually decided to format it at fat32. works ok as long as you dont need to create a single file larger than 4GB (like for a system backup)
[10:04] <numus> anto9us it only lets me on the Z drive (virtual disk partition of linux)
[10:04] <dxdt> hahahah better question guys.  I fucked up soemthing with the group adding and in the process removed myself from sudo, etc.  Anyway to undo this now that I'm not sudo
[10:05] <dxdt> :-/
[10:05] <caseofthemondays> I ejected my external usb drive before unplugging it and now i still have its icon on my screen.  When i plug it back in it creates a new icon so now i have 2 ... how do i get rid of the depricated icon ?
[10:05] <anto9us> numus: only reason you would have a Z drive is if you're running in a vitual machine or something, yes?
[10:05] <PriceChild> !pj,u | dxdt
[10:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pj,u - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:05] <Ayabara> towlieban, I don't think I will need that large files. Will miss the permissions-stuff though :-/
[10:05] <PriceChild> !ohmy | dxdt
[10:05] <fusheh> dxdt: Recovery mode sounds good :o
[10:05] <ubotu> dxdt: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:05] <dxdt> lulz
[10:05] <towlieban> Ayabara yea...
[10:05] <mazzen> taking a look at http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/nautilus/ i noticed that there are various versions of nautilus... high unstable version for the upcoming ubuntu version, *but* no 2.x.2 or 2.x.3 which are pure bugfixes versions. is there any good reason for that?
[10:06] <numus> anto9us yes.. it is running ubuntu off a virtual disk so i can dual boot with windowsxp with easily uninstallation of ubuntu if i need to
[10:06] <dxdt> hahaha oh wow.
[10:06] <dxdt> oh wait.  I have an idea.
[10:06] <caseofthemondays> I ejected my external usb drive before unplugging it and now i still have its icon on my screen.  When i plug it back in it creates a new icon so now i have 2 ... how do i get rid of the depricated icon ?
[10:06] <dxdt> What group do I need to be  a part of to have sudo powers?  I'm still logged in on one terminal that I *think* I'll still have sudo on until I exit.
[10:07] <fusheh> dxdt: Funny situation you got yourself into. lol xD
[10:07] <dxdt> I need to make sure I add the correct group back to my username
[10:07] <sidenet> can someone give me some pointers with configuring aiglx with my ati radeon mobility x300?  i've looked at several tutorials and i'm not quite sure i followed the procedures correctly
[10:07] <caseofthemondays> dxdt:  are you sure you want to be logged in with root acess all the time ?
[10:07] <PriceChild> sidenet, #ubuntu-effects and with that card its not going to be good
[10:07] <PriceChild> dxdt, the "admin" grou
[10:07] <PriceChild> p
[10:07] <anto9us> numus: what do you mean by virtual disk?
[10:07] <dxdt> PriceChild: so like usermod -G admin username   right?
[10:07] <Billy> how do I format my thumb drive?
[10:07] <numus> anto9us never mind totem works well enough
[10:08] <dxdt> or should I do -g :-/
[10:08] <sidenet> pricechild:  do you think i'll be able to run compiz-fusion with my card?
[10:08] <PriceChild> sidenet, #ubuntu-effects please
[10:08] <Billy> I know it is in /media/disk  but how Do I format it for Fat?
[10:08] <sidenet> k, sorry
[10:09] <damageDOne> Hey can anyone tell me how to change the readwrite permissions on a usbdisk
[10:09] <caseofthemondays> I ejected my external usb drive before unplugging it and now i still have its icon on my screen.  When i plug it back in it creates a new icon so now i have 2 ... how do i get rid of the depricated icon ?  Unmounting it only removes the new icon, not the old one, and rebooting did nothing.
[10:09] <fusheh> dxdt: I think it's -g :o
[10:09] <CaptainM> Billy, there's a graphical program called qtparted you can use
[10:09] <Billy> CaptainM: thank you
[10:09] <Jack_Sparrow> gparted too
[10:09] <Polygon89> Billy, or if you use gnome, gparted
[10:10] <Holty101_> could anyone possibly talk me through setting up the mana wold on ubuntu please im a newb and any help will be apriciated
[10:10] <SYNACK> caseofthemondays, after you unmount the dirve try hitting f5 on the desktop
[10:10] <caseofthemondays> synack:  nothing
[10:10] <SYNACK> icon still there?
[10:10] <caseofthemondays> unfortunatelly yes
[10:11] <dxdt> ahhh nm.  I think I killed it.  That trick didn't  work.  haha oh well
[10:11] <damageDOne> Hello everyone, I have a usbdisk that is saying it's read only. Can anyone tell me how to change that?
[10:11] <pacmaneatsmynucl> now i keep getting "bash: /home/user/sndstretch_xmms: is a directory"
[10:11] <mazzen> this "gnome-bugfixes packages" is an all-time question, isnt ? ;-)
[10:11] <fusheh> pacmaneatsmynucl: watcha trying to do
[10:12] <pacmaneatsmynucl> install an xmms plugin
[10:12] <Judg3_Dr34D> Hello, I have AMD64 and Feisty 64bit version. Do I have to uninstall firefox 64bit version in order to install the 32bit one and get all the plug-ins to work?
[10:12] <knix> Judg3_Dr34D: nspluginwrapper
[10:13] <fusheh> pacmaneatsmynucl: What where you trying to do that gave you that error.
[10:13] <Judg3_Dr34D> knix: ?
[10:13] <knix> Judg3_Dr34D: look it up. You can run 32bit plugins in 64bit ff, it'll get you flash and acrobat
[10:13] <caseofthemondays> I ejected my external usb drive before unplugging it and now i still have its icon on my screen.  When i plug it back in it creates a new icon so now i have 2 ... how do i get rid of the depricated icon ?
[10:13] <pacmaneatsmynucl> '/home/user/sndstretch_xmms' make clean
[10:13] <pacmaneatsmynucl> in terminal
[10:14] <pacmaneatsmynucl> and yes i am very new to this
[10:14] <Judg3_Dr34D> knix: ok man thanks, I'll go google it :)
[10:14] <knix> np :)
[10:15] <sx66> how do you configure the monitor of a laptop to shutdown/power off in xubuntu?
[10:16] <PeterGash> server irc.freenode.net
[10:16] <newb> pricechild are you there?
[10:16] <numus>  i am having a problem.. if i click on something that requires a popup window of any kind.. i ahve to click again for the popup to show up
[10:17] <newb> can someone help me with my install??
[10:17] <Billy> my usb stick is under NTFS and QTpartition is not working ,  Is there a way I can make ubuntu read and write to NTFS?
[10:17] <nuxil> Hi all.. can anyone answer me why there is no host.allow and host.deny ? and can i make them files and they will do there job? i am using feisty!
[10:17] <CaptainM> !ask | newb
[10:17] <ubotu> newb: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:17] <nuxil> Billy, yes
[10:17] <romboy_> ntfs-3g works for me
[10:17] <newb> ok
[10:17] <mwe> !ntfs | Billy
[10:17] <ubotu> Billy: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[10:17] <Billy> thank you
[10:17] <Judg3_Dr34D> newb: ask your question and if somenone knows he'll help
[10:17] <numus> umm my whole harddrive is formated in ntfs
[10:18] <nuxil> Billy, mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda /mountpoint usaly
[10:18] <aspetos> anyone some help with an openvpn setup in ubuntu please?
[10:18] <teicah>  /sbin/ifconfig shows eth0 lo ppp0 ..how do i disable eth0?  im on dialup
[10:18] <newb> ok how do i know if ubuntu has drivers for my motherboard and its onbaord devices?
[10:18] <numus> aspetos did you ask that yetserday/
[10:18] <nuxil> teicah, ifconfig eth0 down
[10:18] <Polygon89> newb, google really.
[10:18] <n2diy> teicah: ifdown eth0
[10:18] <aspetos> numus and the day before that too
[10:18] <Polygon89> newb, just try googling "ubuntu, motherboard model, support"
[10:18] <nuxil> !host.allow
[10:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about host.allow - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:19] <teicah> nuxil: n2diy :  does that make it permanent?
[10:19] <nuxil> !host.deny
[10:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about host.deny - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:19] <mwe> !msgthebot | nuxil
[10:19] <ubotu> nuxil: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[10:19] <n2diy> teicah: I don't think so?
[10:19] <nuxil> teicah, no.. put that in rc.local and chmod 755 rc.local and it will be perm
[10:19] <aspetos> numus thing is that i've managed to make openvpn clients connect to the ubuntu openvpn server but they cannot ping any other machine on the LAN behind openvpn and i'm not sure if there is something wrong with ubuntu i'mi missing
[10:19] <newb> polygon:i tried to boot from cd as live. got in. but when i tried to config my ip address. any address i put in will not work i dont know if my nic is supported.. its onbaord
[10:19] <aspetos> any ideas numus ?
[10:20] <nuxil> So can anyone answer me why there is no host.allow and host.deny ? and can i make them files and they will do ther job?
[10:20] <Carleton91> what is feisty? and does it come installed with the latest ubuntu install?
[10:20] <newb> yes
[10:20] <newb> carlton : yes dont even worry abou tit
[10:20] <magnetron> Carleton91: feisty is Ubuntu 7.04 , the latest Ubuntu install
[10:21] <aspetos> numus?
[10:21] <derenrich> I need a newer version of samba, are there repo's for more cutting edge versions?
[10:21] <n2diy> Carleton91: Feisty is the code name for the latest release of Ubuntu.
[10:21] <Carleton91> Oh ok haha, just kept seeing that on the forums and didn't know what ot make of it
[10:22] <vox754> !feisty
[10:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - For BitTorrent downloads, see !Torrents
[10:22] <derenrich> when is gutsy going to be realsed?
[10:23] <SlimeyPete> derenrich: october, in theory
[10:23] <zander_> hi ppl i need help
[10:23] <n2diy> derenrich: October
[10:23] <Carleton91> Are Tomboy notes able to be printed?
[10:23] <derenrich> are its repos stable yet?
[10:23] <zander_> want to install flashplugin for firefox
[10:23] <derenrich> could i use gutsy repos with feisty?
[10:23] <vox754> !flash
[10:23] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[10:23] <bluefox83> derenrich, that would be a very bad idea
[10:23] <SlimeyPete> derenrich: the second number in the ubuntu versions indicates the month of release, so 7.04 (feisty) means April. If you add six to the number you get the month of the next release.
[10:24] <derenrich> oh, I never realized that
[10:24] <derenrich> bluefox83: really?
[10:24] <magnetron> derenrich: no, use the feisty backports repository instead
[10:24] <Billy> Thank you, I am having growing pains.. but I will read and learn about the ntfs-config... thank you
[10:24] <derenrich> magnetron: is that loaded by default?
[10:25] <magnetron> derenrich: enable it with Synaptic
[10:25] <vox754> !backport | derenrich
[10:25] <ubotu> derenrich: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[10:25] <surviver> hello, i try to record sonthing straid from my sound-card but i cant seem to find the option like "stereo mix" in my sound control anyone know how  i can record straight from soundcard?
[10:25] <mrfisk> I got ALC833 HD Realtek sound.. that won't work ! :(
[10:25] <surviver> !stereo mix
[10:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stereo mix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:26] <surviver> !mix
[10:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:26] <mrfisk> !ALC883
[10:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alc883 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:26] <surviver> !record sound
[10:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about record sound - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:27] <surviver> !sound control
[10:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sound control - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:27] <g[r] eek> hi has anyone here gotten postgresql-8.2 to work on dapper drake?
[10:27] <mrfisk> !sound
[10:27] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:27] <RobLeavy> http://www.AWSurveys.com/HomeMain.cfm?RefID=hai2u <-- Fill out the information and get an automatic $6 :P
[10:27] <RobLeavy> http://www.AWSurveys.com/HomeMain.cfm?RefID=hai2u <-- Fill out the information and get an automatic $6 :P
[10:28] <alecw1> I have Compiz Fusion installed on my Machine, and it works awesome. However, I need to use Compiz Fusion with "indirect rendering". I have this set in my session manager (so it will boot on start) "compiz --indirect-rendering ccp". However, it doesn't do it, and it renders with direct rendering. Is there a way I can change this?
[10:28] <zander_> thx for the plugin tut ;)
[10:28] <Carleton91> !tomboy
[10:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tomboy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:29] <surviver> hello, i try to record sonthing straight from my sound-card but i cant seem to find the option like "stereo mix" in my sound control anyone know how  i can record straight from soundcard?
[10:29] <Dave> .
[10:29] <Rageagainstthis> has the widescreen woes been fixed for 7.04?
[10:30] <cosmoretro> i deleted my xorg.conf what can i do?
[10:30] <SYNACK> do you have a ~xorg.conf?
[10:30] <Frank__> What file format will play in a typical DVD player?
[10:30] <Dave> not do that again
[10:30] <cosmoretro> no i'm not
[10:30] <Frank__> Will .ISO play in a dvd player?
[10:30] <Dave> no
[10:30] <SYNACK> no
[10:31] <g[r] eek> hi has anyone here gotten postgresql-8.2 to work on dapper drake?
[10:31] <Dave> usually, you are looking at a Video_TS folder
[10:31] <xpoint> cosmoretro, x -configure
[10:31] <Frank__> Are these 'no' s for me?
[10:31] <SYNACK> yes
[10:31] <alecw1> What is the channel for open composting?
[10:31] <cosmoretro> ok i'll try
[10:32] <Frank__> Does Devede make a 'video-ts folder'?
[10:32] <mrfisk> :( is it possible that ubuntu doesnt support my souncard ?
[10:32] <Frank__> I just see it has the ability to make .iso & .mpg
[10:32] <daan> Frank__: an iso will play if it contains a dvd movie
[10:32] <anto9us> frank_: yes, even if it's inside the .iso image
[10:32] <g[r] eek> if i enable feisty in my sources.list then i can get dapper to apt-get install postgresql-8.2; how dangerous is this?
[10:32] <Frank__> i see, .iso it is..thx!
[10:33] <Dave> mrfisk: yes
[10:33] <pacmaneatsmynucl> what do i need to type into terminal to compile/install xmms plugins?
[10:33] <SlimeyPete> g[r] eek: very. Mixing distributions can blitz your operating system.
[10:33] <preaction> g[r] eek: it's evil bad. it will not work. if it works it will mess your system. if it doesn't mess your system now, it will later
[10:33] <daan> Frank__: just be sure to burn it as an image not as a data dvd
[10:33] <Frank__> image not data..got it
[10:33] <SlimeyPete> sometimes it works OK, but sometimes it fails horribly
[10:33] <mrfisk> But it's so common.. realtek hd :/
[10:33] <Cyrus25801> hey guys, where do I get rom's for the gsnes emulator
[10:33] <Dave> mrfisk: ubuntu does not support my entire motherboard, so dont feel so bad, it could be worse!
[10:33] <magnetron> try enabling the dapper backports repo, g[r] eek
[10:33] <g[r] eek> well my other option was to upgrade server to feisty, but the installation stalls
[10:34] <preaction> Cyrus25801: that is not on-topic. getting roms for game you do not own is illegal. you'll find no help here
[10:34] <SlimeyPete> mrfisk: I have a realtek HD. It's sort-of supported but I find that I have to boot into Windows, turn volume up, then soft-reboot the PC to get anything out of it.
[10:34] <g[r] eek> installs perfectly on dapper though :/
[10:34] <Dave> cyrus: !google snes roms
[10:34] <n2diy> mrfisk: see if you can find the module for it with a Google search.
[10:34] <g[r] eek> and im talking about a clean install
[10:34] <xpoint> g[r] eek, postgresql say to backup db before upgrade
[10:35] <mrfisk> already looked for 2 hours for answers..
[10:35] <mrfisk> ok 1 actually :p
[10:35] <Cyrus25801> preaction: Im really sorry. But I do own nentendo games they date back to 1980
[10:35] <n2diy> mrfisk: look for the name of the module.
[10:36] <surviver> hello, i try to record sonthing straight from my sound-card but i cant seem to find the option like "stereo mix" in my sound control anyone know how  i can record straight from soundcard?
[10:36] <Dave> would anyone be able to help me troubleshoot a clean system? I believe ubuntu does not support my hardware
[10:37] <exi> hiho @all
[10:37] <Paradox1> How do I set the ipaddress of my machine from the command line?
[10:37] <tapas> Dave: nobody knows that. as long as you don't tell whatproblem you see
[10:37] <mrfisk> almost thinking of going back to the big x and p
[10:37] <mrfisk> :p
[10:37] <tapas> Paradox1: man ifconfig
[10:37] <Chousuke> Paradox1: with ipconfig
[10:38] <SlimeyPete> Chousuke: that's Windows ;p
[10:38] <Dave> tapas: you asked, and you shall recieve!
[10:38] <Chousuke> SlimeyPete: eh, right.
[10:38] <Chousuke> typo
[10:38] <tapas> Dave: i didn't ask
[10:38] <tapas> :)
[10:38] <Paradox1> tapas: I did ifconfig eth1 address 192.XXX.XX.X and that didn't work
[10:38] <Chousuke> (Caused by me having to reinstall windows a few days back :()
[10:38] <Lo_Pan> ifconfig eth1 192.blah.blah
[10:39] <tapas> Paradox1: well, is eth1 the interface yuo want to configure?
[10:39] <Paradox1> tapas: yes
[10:39] <tapas> Paradox1: and did you by chance run dhclient afterwards?
[10:39] <n2diy> Paradox1: try it again with sudo?
[10:39] <tapas> ;)
[10:39] <Paradox1> tapas: no I didn't
[10:39] <tapas> "didn't work" can be about anything, to
[10:39] <mrfisk> can't believe it's so hard installing the most common intergated sound card alive!
[10:39] <tapas> did you get an error?
[10:39] <Paradox1> yea
[10:39] <tapas> tell us about it
[10:40] <MstbZalle> "tell her about it.." *sing*
[10:40] <Paradox1> SOmething like cannot change address see ifconf --help
[10:40] <PublicDisclaimer> Is it possible to run a desktop environment like KDE and then a different WM like IceWM or Fluxbox (heck, even XFCE/Enlightenment) on top of it in Ubuntu?
[10:40] <asdf> Is anyone running a seamless Ubuntu and Vista install using Vmware and rdesktop?
[10:40] <SlimeyPete> mrfisk: proprietary, innit.
[10:40] <tapas> Paradox1: tell us the exact error msg
[10:40] <zerwas> Does somebody have links or information on how to make his own ubuntu-installation-medium? (with specific drivers, software etc)
[10:40] <n2diy> mrfisk: what is the make an model #?
[10:40] <MstbZalle> PublicDisclaimer: of course
[10:40] <mrfisk> Realtek ALC883
[10:40] <Paradox1> tapas: give me a second
[10:40] <LukeEkblad> Hello
[10:41] <PublicDisclaimer> MstbZalle: That's what I was thinking, but will the aforementioned wm's work with Compiz?
[10:41] <SlimeyPete> hi
[10:41] <buize> alscan
[10:41] <krlos> hllo
[10:41] <LukeEkblad> I need help
[10:41] <krlos> please help me
[10:41] <SlimeyPete> !ask
[10:41] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:41] <LukeEkblad> ok
[10:41] <LukeEkblad> lol
[10:41] <krlos> help  me
[10:41] <LukeEkblad> http://lukeekblad.googlepages.com/myproblems
[10:41] <krlos> please
[10:41] <PublicDisclaimer> !ask
[10:41] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:42] <LukeEkblad> See if you can solv any of those :)
[10:42] <brunner> does anyone know how to dock gaim to the right side of my screen so that when I maximize windows, they don't overlap by buddy list?
[10:42] <n2diy> mrfisk: I got 30,000 hits on it and module.
[10:42] <daan>  /kick krlos :P
[10:42] <PublicDisclaimer> Lol
[10:42] <asdf> Is anyone running a seamless Ubuntu and Vista install using Vmware and rdesktop?
[10:42] <krlos> wath???
[10:42] <mrfisk> n2diy: yea well... nothing that helps me.
[10:42] <brunner> I'm using gnome
[10:42] <SlimeyPete> krlos: what is your problem?
[10:42] <daan> krlos: just ask a question ok?
[10:42] <Dave> anywho, I am having horrible stability problems with every flavor of ubuntu (k,x, etc) I find the sustem is unable to run ubuntu clean, and occasionally has difficulties remaining stable long enough to install from the live CD. I have used the alternate CD, but booting results in the same instability. I have checked the sys logs after a hard freeze and it reports nothing. I have a completely 'clean' install. I am running a Athlon XP 3200+ on a 
[10:43] <krlos> one monet
[10:43] <n2diy> mrfisk: what are yqu talking about, how do you expect it to play, if you don't install the module for it?
[10:43] <numus> why is there a virus scanner for ubuntu
[10:43] <Frank__> Quick question, where can i change the number of minutes before sleep/hibrination?
[10:43] <krlos> one moment
[10:43] <Dave> I have searched google and the ubuntu forums and there are similar problems with people having 'incompatabilities' with ubuntu, and zero solutions
[10:43] <mrfisk> It is installed.. or well atleast i can see the module in sound properties..
[10:43] <Dave> all seem to be with PCChips/SiS boards
[10:44] <SlimeyPete> Dave: we only saw as far as "on a" - IRC servers tend to truncate long messages.
[10:44] <daan> Frank__: power management
[10:44] <tapas> Dave: try the alternate install
[10:44] <Frank__> thx
[10:44] <tapas> Dave: and see if without X it is more stable
[10:44] <Dave> on a PCChips M848ALU mobo w/ SiS chipset. I am using an old ATI 9600 pro for graphics.
[10:44] <Dave> ths SlimeyPete
[10:44] <n2diy> mrfisk: what module is it, and where did you install it?
[10:44] <Dave> will do tapas
[10:44] <LukeEkblad> http://lukeekblad.googlepages.com/myproblems    <<<<  Those are the problems I have eith ubuntu.  If you want, you can read them and help me :)
[10:44] <numus> anyone know if an xbox controller driver is going to be ported to linux from windows
[10:45] <FrankTM> numus: doesnt that work already? i can connect my wii controller fine :)
[10:45] <asdf> Is anyone running a seamless Ubuntu and Vista install using Vmware and rdesktop?
[10:45] <mrfisk> Havnt done anything but installing some alsa thingies wich i know nothing about... but it didnt work before that either so i have no idea what to do
[10:45] <numus> franktm i know in windows you need xbcd inorder to use the controller with windows
[10:45] <CarmenSandiego> What version of the linux kernel does Feisty use? Is it the latest one?
[10:45] <mrfisk> It didnt work after the install either
[10:45] <Dave> tapas: do you reccomend telinit 3? or is there a better way
[10:46] <preaction> CarmenSandiego: do "uname -a" at a terminal to find what version you have
[10:46] <FrankTM> numus: donno about windows :)
[10:46] <tapas> Dave: the "alternate install" has text install afaik
[10:46] <tapas> Dave: it's a different iso
[10:46] <CarmenSandiego> cheers
[10:46] <n2diy> mrfisk: Ok, once again, you need to get the module for your card, install it with the other kernel modules, and then run modprobe on it.
[10:46] <_aib> what entry would I put in sources.list to get this url to be seen as a repository? http://grey.colorado.edu/apt/archives/binary/
[10:46] <Dave> tapas: yes, i have to use it to install; the live CD is too unstable to complete the install
[10:47] <mrfisk> hmm.
[10:47] <mrfisk> :)
[10:47] <tapas> Dave: so the alternate install is more stable?
[10:47] <tapas> Dave: so it seems in yur case it's actually X that is the culprit
[10:47] <mrfisk> I'm new to this man.. have no idea of what u talking about.. a module is a driver right ?
[10:47] <ciro314> hello. i have installed mysql-admin and mysql-server-5.0 but i can not connect to localhost 127.0.0.1. why? what should i do? thanks in advance guys!
[10:47] <LukeEkblad> Can someone pleas help me?   http://lukeekblad.googlepages.com/myproblems  <   Theres a list of the problems I have with ubuntu, pleas help!  Thanks!
[10:47] <vox754> CarmenSandiego, is not the latest because the latest is always being worked on. But it is close.
[10:48] <n2diy> mrfisk: yes!
[10:48] <Dave> tapas: no, but it is necessary to get a 'clean' install on my hard drive. Once I boot to the hard drive, it is just as unstable as the live CD
[10:48] <tapas> ciro314: is the server started?>
[10:48] <CarmenSandiego> how would I go about upgrading my linux kernel, and is it a good idea?
[10:48] <tapas> Dave: yes sure, as X is loaded, right?
[10:48] <krlos> I want to install my printer but I cannot
[10:48] <erUSUL> !kernel | CarmenSandiego
[10:48] <ubotu> CarmenSandiego: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:48] <tapas> Dave: [when you bootfrom the hd] 
[10:48] <Dave> tapas: correct
[10:48] <Holty101_> i guys everyone keeps telling me i shouldntbe using ubuntu i should use some other linux os whaat do you lot think
[10:48] <tapas> Dave: ok, what kind of gfx card do you use?
[10:48] <CaptainM> krlos, we need some more information than that ;)
[10:49] <daan> krlos: what printer type?
[10:49] <ciro314> tapas, i do not think so. y typed mysql on a terminal and then tried to connect mysql-admin to localhost running sudo but nothing happened.
[10:49] <Dave> tapas: ATI 9600 Pro - i have found instability with vesa as well as fglrx
[10:49] <asdf> how do you kill the gnome-desktop?
[10:49] <krlos> is a canon PIXMA iP1700
[10:49] <n2diy> Holty101_: is everyone willing to help you with another OS, like the 1160 users here are?
[10:49] <vox754> CarmenSandiego, No it is not a good idea to get the latest kernel unless you are a hacker and really need a new functionality.
[10:49] <mrfisk> n2diy: can't find it i think :p
[10:49] <tapas> Dave: ok.. dunno anything about ATI
[10:49] <Dave> asdf: sudo telinit 3
[10:49] <tapas> Dave: i'd try reading relevant wikis etc..
[10:50] <tapas> ciro314: maybe it has an init script
[10:50] <Holty101_> no i really need help installing the mana world i tried yesterday and got reallty stuck i like ubuntu
[10:50] <Dave> tapas: I have found similar situations, but they have all given up and returned to windows
[10:50] <CarmenSandiego> ok. It doesn't look like I need it now anyway...
[10:50] <Dave> :(
[10:50] <asdf> Dave: that didn't do it
[10:50] <tapas> ciro314: try /etc/init.d/mysql start
[10:50] <n2diy> mrfisk: I entered realtek acl833 module into google, and got 30,000 hits for it.
[10:50] <nixnoob> why can't i upgrade to feisty? I get an error about not being able to authenticate?
[10:50] <daan> krlos: did you try system -> preferences -> printing?
[10:50] <tapas> Dave: ok, tough luck then
[10:50] <vox754> nixnoob, can you post a picture?
[10:50] <tapas> Dave: check compatibility before trying to install linux :)
[10:51] <daan> krlos: did you try system -> administration -> printing?
[10:51] <nothingssomethin> nixnoob is your current ubuntu completely updated
[10:51] <tapas> cidco: [as root] 
[10:51] <asdf> How do you kill the gnome-desktop from the terminal?
[10:51] <Holty101_> n2diy can you help with me installing the mana world on Ubuntu or point me to a site that can?
[10:51] <Dave> tapas: the hardware is recent, and 'fully supported'
[10:51] <blubloblu> asdf: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:51] <krlos> yes
[10:51] <nixnoob> nothingsomething, no
[10:51] <daan> krlos: and?
[10:52] <n2diy> Holty101_: sorry, never heard of it.
[10:52] <tapas> Dave: it seems it's not :) i would maybe talk to the xorg guys, too
[10:52] <krlos> nothing
[10:52] <Dave> tapas: thanks
[10:52] <ciro314> tapas, it works !!!!!!! thanks a lot. thanks
[10:52] <daan> krlos: what did you do
[10:53] <tapas> Dave: sorry, if i couldn't be of any mroe helpo. but i have no experience with ati cards. try #xorg :)
[10:53] <krlos> there is no the model of printer in the list
[10:53] <IndyLucian> im trying to do deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb feisty eyecandy as part of the first step on installing compiz but it says deb isn't a bash command
[10:53] <mrfisk> try ALC883 n2diy
[10:53] <Dave> !join
[10:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about join - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:53] <Dave> grr
[10:53] <mrfisk> that's the one i need
[10:53] <daan> krlos: try the ip2200 one
[10:53] <snk00sj> hi, after installing gdesklets all .desktop icons open with text editor
[10:53] <vox754> !compiz | IndyLucian
[10:53] <ubotu> IndyLucian: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:53] <xaxa> hi
[10:53] <IndyLucian> im there now
[10:54] <tapas> ciro314: if you want to start it everytime you bopto your computer have a look at man update-rc.d
[10:54] <SlimeyPete> IndyLucian: you ned to add that line to your /etc/sources.list , not run it. Also, using the tutorial ubuto mentioned above is the best way to do it.
[10:54] <nothingssomethin> try to update completely and then upgrade to new version
[10:54] <krlos> ok
[10:54] <snk00sj> hi, after installing gdesklets all .desktop icons open with text editor
[10:55] <snk00sj> (gedit by default)
[10:55] <nixnoob> nothingssomethin, doing it not need about 30 seconds.
[10:55] <Holty101_> Has anyone got the mana world to run on ubuntu?
[10:55] <nixnoob> now*
[10:55] <snk00sj> the /etc/gnome/defaults.list doesn't seem to contain anything concerning .desktop files
[10:55] <nothingssomethin> ok
[10:55] <tapas> ciro314: [or simply ma a symbolic link from /etc/init.d/mysql to e.g. /etc/irc2.d/99mysql
[10:55] <ciro314> tapas, thanks again. i do not want to start it running xubuntu on a pentium II :D. only when necessary
[10:55] <CaptainM> IndyLucian, ad that line to /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:55] <tapas> ciro314: ok
[10:56] <numus> i am having a problem with my compiler
[10:56] <brunner> How can I dock my pidgin buddy list to the right side of my screen, so that when I maximize applications, they don't overlap my buddy list?
[10:56] <numus> what tools do i need to compile correctly
[10:57] <ticnailer69> when I use ifconfig.........what does etho and lo mean?
[10:57] <zabin>  Everytime i restart my computer i have to reinstall my nvidia drivers does anyone know why?
[10:57] <n2diy> mrfisk: ok, I did?
[10:57] <nothingssomethin> nixnoob you might need more than 30 seconds also after you update your current runtime reboot and try running all of your programs that you installed with apt-get or without synaptec PM
[10:57] <cheeseboy> numus, sudo apt-get instal build-essential
[10:57] <mrfisk> n2diy: finding nothing to download and install..
[10:57] <graziani> iam new to ubuntu...so...can somebody help me please :) ?
[10:57] <graziani> i have a problem regarding language...where can i put the latvian language on..so i can write too in latvian ?
[10:57] <mrfisk> and nothing to fix the proble
[10:57] <mrfisk> m
[10:57] <numus> thanks
[10:58] <crank> I need help
[10:58] <cheeseboy> np
[10:58] <raziekiel> I'm trying to install an expanion to diablo2, but it doesn't detect diablo2 as being installed, do I need to reinstall it?
[10:58] <n2diy> mrfisk: I entered realtek acl833 module into google, and got 30,000 hits for it. And just finished reading about the fix for it.
[10:58] <CaptainM> !ask | crank
[10:58] <ubotu> crank: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:58] <crank> XD
[10:58] <mrfisk> acl 883 not alc833
[10:58] <zabin> Everytime i restart my computer i have to reinstall my nvidia drivers also my max res is only 1024 x something ...
[10:59] <crank> I downloaded ubuntu and i extracted it now its all over the place and it does nothing what do i do to install it
[10:59] <mrfisk> alc883*
[10:59] <daan> crank: you dont need to extract it
[10:59] <crank> Well it was in winrar
[10:59] <daan> crank: you need to burn it as an image
[10:59] <crank> So i had to
[10:59] <zabin> crank: you brn the image to a disk
[10:59] <daan> crank: no you didn't
[10:59] <crank> daan ben je nederlands?
[10:59] <brunner> is there a way to make gnome panels larger than 120px?
[10:59] <zabin> Everytime i restart my computer i have to reinstall my nvidia drivers also my max res is only 1024 x something ...
[10:59] <daan> crank: ja
[11:00] <daan> crank: burn it with this http://www.snapfiles.com/get/burncdcc.html
[11:00] <crank> daan: ik snap er geen flikker van
[11:00] <krlos> thanks, if it worked
[11:00] <daan> crank: join me in the #daan channel
[11:00] <CaptainM> crank, ga naar #ubuntu-nl voor hulp in het nederlands
[11:00] <krlos> daan
[11:00] <apo_> @msn.com
[11:01] <daan> krlos: yes
[11:01] <krlos> thanks if it worked
[11:01] <n2diy> mrfisk: ok, I did? I see my typo now, hang on.
[11:01] <daan> krlos: great :)
[11:01] <LukeEkblad> Can someone pleas pleas help me?
[11:01] <daan> krlos: if you have probles read this http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-PIXMA_iP1700
[11:01] <nothingssomethin> nixnoob you might need more than 30 seconds also after you update your current runtime reboot and try running all of your programs that you installed with apt-get or without synaptec PM
[11:01] <atrus25> I can get my sound working. I have selected alsa as the sound source. from what I can tell my computer recognized the card but it won't make any noise
[11:01] <daan> crank: are you still there?
[11:02] <CaptainM> !ask | LukeEkblad,
[11:02] <ubotu> LukeEkblad,: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:02] <crank> Yes
[11:02] <crank> daan:i pmed u
[11:02] <mrfisk> n2diy: could u please just tell me how i should fix it :D
[11:02] <daan> crank: that doesn't work here
[11:02] <LukeEkblad> No one ever listens to me
[11:02] <LukeEkblad> They dont help me
[11:02] <daan> crank: go to the #ubuntu-nl channel
[11:02] <LukeEkblad> I'v asked like 12 times
[11:02] <LukeEkblad> and everyone ignores me
[11:02] <krlos> ok
[11:02] <daan>  /kick LukeEkblad
[11:02] <krlos> thanks
[11:03] <erUSUL> !patience | LukeEkblad
[11:03] <ubotu> LukeEkblad: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:03] <numus> which apt in apt-get should i get for java runtime
[11:03] <LukeEkblad> I know
[11:03] <cBau> Luke, what is your question?
[11:03] <n2diy> mrfisk: I've told you three times now. Find the module, install it, and modprobe it.
[11:03] <mrfisk> modprobe
[11:03] <mrfisk> ?
[11:03] <|c4|> i need help getting my dvd's working
[11:03] <LukeEkblad> sorry bout that
[11:04] <LukeEkblad> My question
[11:04] <LukeEkblad> http://lukeekblad.googlepages.com/myproblems  There <
[11:04] <nothingssomethin> |c4| i'm sure your dvd's work
[11:04] <nixnoob> nothingssomethin, yea the download was done but its still installing...its almost done now, then I will try to upgrade.
[11:04] <|c4|> yes they work, but they wont play
[11:05] <Puppy_> Is there a simple tutorial saying how to get vmware working with xp home addition?
[11:05] <LukeEkblad> The list of problems I have is there
[11:05] <LukeEkblad> at that link
[11:05] <derenrich> LukeEkblad: why don't you go to #beryl, sounds like that is your problem...
[11:05] <LukeEkblad> derenrich:   ok
[11:05] <nothingssomethin> |c4| quick fix... synaptec >>>>search for vlc
[11:05] <numus> has anyone used wubi?
[11:05] <nothingssomethin> download vlc media player
[11:06] <|c4|> ty
[11:06] <deadlyallance069> what is the channel for ubuntu studio
[11:06] <numus> if so do you know how to increase the size of the virtual disk?
[11:06] <LukeEkblad> derenrich:   but this has nothing to do with beryl:  My sound quality is really bad now that i installed ubuntu.
[11:06] <Cryoniq> Anyone have experience converting videofiles like avi to 3gp (3rd gen mobile phones video format) under Ubuntu?
[11:06] <derenrich> you listed 3 problems, two of whicha re beryl related
[11:06] <erUSUL> !sound | LukeEkblad
[11:06] <ubotu> LukeEkblad: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:06] <rodrigo> Hello, any one of you can tell how can I transfer files trough one disk that have kubuntu and other wich has windows I can't open the hard disk trough kubuntu?
[11:06] <derenrich> as for your sounds issue, what driver are you using?
[11:07] <LukeEkblad> ubotu: ok
[11:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:07] <nixnoob> nothinssomethin, no i still get the error about authenticating the upgrade
[11:07] <Puppy_> deadlyallance069: #ubuntustudio I think.
[11:07] <deadlyallance069> thanks
[11:07] <nothingssomethin> nixnoob >>>>> i would advise you to make sure your your applications prograqms you installed 3rd party still work after the update
[11:07] <LDZ420> rodrigo: what happens when you try to open drive?
[11:08] <nixnoob> nothingssomethin, I can't upgrade at all...
[11:08] <nothingssomethin> |c4| did that work
[11:08] <rodrigo> LDZ420:  It doesn't appear any folder
[11:09] <faizal> hi
[11:09] <panzi> hi
[11:09] <rodrigo> LDZ420:  I'm trying to open it with konqueror
[11:09] <nothingssomethin> nixnoob >>> ok i men't to say update , after the update installs
[11:09] <mrfisk> winxp it is!
[11:09] <mrfisk> =)
[11:09] <panzi> since ubuntu 7.04 my sppedtouch usb modem causes problems with my keyboard
[11:09] <panzi> after boot all keystrokes have a 4second delay. a work around is to un- and replug the usb modem
[11:09] <panzi> but this is tedious because I have to crawl behind the PC for doing that
[11:09] <ticnailer69> when I use ifconfig ....what does etho and lo mean?
[11:09] <panzi> has anyone an idea what could cause this?
[11:09] <broedje> what does it mean: "cant get on system bus" i want to run a bluetooth stick and hal an some gnome apps are not configured by apt-get
[11:09] <cBau> LukeEkblad: For your skydome image... is it in a RW location by your user? just a thought... also, make sure your skydome image has a 2:1 ratio.... 512x256..... 4000x2000..... etc....
[11:10] <LDZ420> rodrigo: ok is that drive mounted and just shows up as blank?
[11:10] <ticnailer69> wht are your plans for today
[11:10] <panzi> eth0 = first networkinterface, lo = local loop (127.0.0.1)
[11:10] <nixnoob> nothingssomething, I did all the updates, i still can't upgrade to feisty
[11:10] <hubertb> ticnailer69: eth0 is your primary network interface (the one your cable is connected to)
[11:10] <rodrigo> shows up as blank
[11:10] <ticnailer69> oh
[11:10] <cmihai> Hi. I've failed to burn 20 brand new cd-rw media in a row. All fail with the CLEAR error "Errno: 0 (Success), read track info scsi sendcmd: no error" (cdrecord blank=fast, cdrecord bla.iso, tried growisofs, burn, k3b and nero. Now used cdrw media works, so that leads me to belive it can't format it. I've looked for cdrw-format and  cdrwtool - no such thing.
[11:10] <ticnailer69> and lo...
[11:11] <rodrigo> LDZ420:  Do I have to "mounted" it?
[11:11] <CaptainM> LukeEkblad, with some videocards big pictures won't work. maybe try a smaller one
[11:11] <vox754> fusheh, hey, firefox works now! And I didn't reboot. Man, Linux repairs itself.
[11:11] <rodrigo> LDZ420:  how do I do that?
[11:11] <panzi> ticnailer69: as I said: lo = local loop (127.0.0.1)
[11:11] <|c4|> no. when i try to play it ask Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?
[11:11] <LDZ420> rodrigo: you sure that the drive is mounted? Also you sure that you have permissions to view the drive?
[11:11] <hubertb> ticnailer69: lo is a loopback device for network traffic, that is sent from you pc to your pc so it hasn't to go thru the real network wire
[11:11] <cBau> LukeEkblad: What do you mean specifically that your sound quality is really bad? Sound in Linux is much different than sound in Windows... which I assume you come from....
[11:12] <n2diy> mrfisk: still here?
[11:12] <ticnailer69> oh shit
[11:12] <nothingssomethin> nixnoob >>> so you brought your current version up to date and restarted just for good mesure and your still getting authenication errors
[11:12] <ticnailer69> thanks bro's
[11:12] <cBau> Luke? Still there?
[11:12] <nothingssomethin> is that what your saying
[11:12] <rodrigo> LDZ420:  I don't have it mounted
[11:12] <rodrigo> I guess
[11:12] <_aib> my apt repo suddenly stopped working. it's located at `http://grey.colorado.edu/apt/archives/binary/', the sources.list entry is `deb http://grey.colorado.edu/apt binary/' and apt-get reports, `Err http://grey.colorado.edu binary/ pdp 4.0.3rc1-1\n404 Not Found'
[11:12] <_aib> it used to work and i haven't changed anything recently
[11:12] <nixnoob> nothingssomethin, i havent restarted ill try now, but yes basically, ill restart and brb
[11:12] <rodrigo> LDZ420:  but that wouldn't affect windows installed in that Hd?
[11:12] <powergoal> I just installed kubuntu on an acer aspire 5570Z and I can't get my wireless card to work.  The wireless card uses the madwifi ath_pci module, which is sucessfully loaded.  However, ifconfig does not acknowledge the card.  lspci does.  any ideas?
[11:13] <hubertb> _aib: It is down, try again tomorrow or so
[11:13] <LDZ420> rodrigo: well, it normally happens automatic.. you might want to look at /ect/fstab. if it is not showing up it is possible that it did not mount
[11:13] <cmihai> Any idea HOW can I format a CDRW in UBUNTU, not having cdrwtool?
[11:13] <_aib> hubertb, what's down? this is my own repo i'm asking about
[11:13] <rodrigo> LDZ420:  ok let me check it
[11:13] <_aib> wondering if there is a new format for sources.list?
[11:13] <hubertb> _aib: ohhh
[11:14] <Holty101_> has anyone installed the mana world or Daimonin on ubuntu??
[11:14] <rodrigo> LDZ420: when I try to open  it, it  says:  Could not enter folder /lost+found.
[11:14] <numus> anyone use gdesklets.. more specificly the weather ones and know how to get them to work?
[11:14] <LDZ420> rodrigo: well do you know what type file system that windows is using is it NTFS?
[11:14] <rodrigo> yes
[11:14] <imbecile> i've installed ktorrent and i only see bittorrent and utorrent when trying to open a .torrent file .. i guess what i'm asking  where i find ktorrent to use it
[11:15] <rodrigo> LDZ420: yes is that
[11:15] <rodrigo> LDZ420: NTFS
[11:15] <numus> utorrent sint' avalible on linux
[11:15] <TaJMoX> Why is it when I select gaim package to be removed - it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop ?
[11:15] <imbecile> numus,  it is through wine though
[11:15] <hubertb> numus: it is using wine :-)
[11:15] <|c4|> can someone help me getting dvd's playing
[11:15] <heyhey>  hi, i downloaded the drivers for my ati x1650 from the ATI website, hwo do i install these drivers on ubuntu?
[11:15] <numus> oh.. use azureus on linux
[11:15] <daan> |c4|: i can try
[11:15] <numus> utorrent on wine doesn't work that well
[11:16] <LDZ420> rodrigo: ok I'm lost help me out... what are we trying to do again?
[11:16] <TaJMoX> !ati | heyhey
[11:16] <ubotu> heyhey: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:16] <_IoC_> i just made 7.04 work for my  Fujitsu Lifebook P7010, Intel M 1.2Ghz, Intel 855GME... Does anybody know how to install/configure the Intel 855GME graphics card? It seems that the forums tell me to upgrade to -686 but i don't have the right instructions for 7.04
[11:16] <|c4|> -daan i get this when i try to play a dvd. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?
[11:16] <hubertb> numus: really? It works fine here
[11:16] <PriceChild> |c4|, well are you?
[11:16] <imbecile> numus,  azureus is messed up for me.. big icons no rating... etc
[11:16] <numus> hubertb: I ran into a problem while uploading with it.. azureus works great.. little java intensive.. but works better on linux then it does on windows
[11:16] <|c4|> -daan. yes, but i dont know how i get libdvdcss
[11:16] <numus> imbecile: works fine for me
[11:16] <daan> |c4|: try to do this http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_DVD_playback_capability
[11:17] <PriceChild> !mp3 | |c4|
[11:17] <alexIdoi12> is there a way to get the amount of RAM used in my top bar  ?
[11:17] <TaJMoX> Why is it when I select gaim package to be removed - it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop ?
[11:17] <imbecile> numus,  well it used to work fine for me.. now it doesnt
[11:17] <PriceChild> !mp3
[11:17] <ubotu> |c4|: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:17] <PriceChild> grr jsut lag
[11:17] <CaptainM> TaJMoX,  you can remove that package. It's not actually the desktop or something ;)
[11:17] <nothingssomethin> |c4|: did you install and try vlc media player
[11:17] <_IoC_> Intel 855GME Drivers for 7.04 Anyone?
[11:18] <numus> imbecile i still do all my torrent downloading on windows boot.. because that is usually when i am running orb
[11:18] <TaJMoX> CaptainM: Oh well what is it?   It's only required by gaim ?
[11:18] <nothingssomethin> you halfto tell vlc media player usually to play the disc
[11:18] <|c4|> brb
[11:18] <TaJMoX> !info ubuntu-desktop
[11:18] <ubotu> ubuntu-desktop: The Ubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.43 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 44 kB
[11:18] <PriceChild> nothingssomethin, you can play dvds without vlc
[11:18] <imbecile> numus,  well i dont run windows
[11:18] <nothingssomethin> !vlc
[11:18] <TaJMoX> Sounds important..
[11:18] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[11:18] <hubertb> nothingssomethin: afaik vlc doesn't install libdvdcss by default
[11:18] <numus> why does this stupid weather desklet not work
[11:19] <CaptainM> TaJMoX, it's a meta package. Why do you want to remove gaim anyway?
[11:19] <rodrigo> LDZ420: so what you recomend me to do?
[11:19] <bruenig|laptop> numus, you should get the adesklets weather applet it works, have to edit configuration files to get it working though
[11:19] <imbecile> numus,  there is only 1 weather gdesklet that works and you have to download it manually
[11:19] <CaptainM> TaJMoX, it's easier to just keep it.
[11:19] <TaJMoX> CaptainM: Because I installed pidgin.   So if I remove ubuntu-desktop my machine wont stop working right?
[11:19] <numus> where is this deslket located
[11:19] <atrus25> I can get my sound to work. I have run through all of the steps on http://linux.iuplog.com/default.asp?item=94639 this page. I have set my settings to all of the choices in system > preferences > sound and I still can't get any sound....as far as I can tell my computer is recognizing the sound card correctly, but I still get no sound
[11:19] <imbecile> i dont quite remember the name
[11:19] <nothingssomethin> i never needed to install that that's all i know, vlc always worked for me
[11:19] <alexIdoi12> so is there anyone with an idea of how to display the amount of RAM used ?
[11:19] <bruenig|laptop> TaJMoX, ubuntu-desktop is a meta package, it doesn't mean anything, it is the dirty hack that apt needs in order to install groups of packages
[11:20] <alexIdoi12> or even the CPU temperature ?
[11:20] <nothingssomethin> vlc comes with a variaty of codecs
[11:20] <alexIdoi12> that would be useful
[11:20] <LDZ420> rodrigo: are we trying to view windows drive and is not showing up?
[11:20] <imbecile> just google gdesklets
[11:20] <daan> nothingssomethin: but vlc doesn't play menu's
[11:20] <TaJMoX> alexIdoi12: free     and    acpi -t
[11:20] <rodrigo> LDZ420: yep, it doesn't appear anything
[11:20] <MrElendig> alexIdoi12: free -m and top
[11:20] <TaJMoX> alexIdoi12: in a terminal
[11:20] <_IoC_> Intel Graphics 855GME for P 1.2 GHZ Centrino please... what will i do?
[11:20] <hubertb> nothingsomethin: libdvdcss isn't a codec - its a pice of software that decrypts video-dvds content scrambling system
[11:20] <nothingssomethin> it sure does for me you must tell it to play them
[11:21] <siloko> alexIdoi12:  or "cat /proc/meminfo"
[11:21] <lobster> I am trying to get ndiswrapper and my Linksys WUSB11v4 working, when i do ndiswrapper -l it outputs "driver present" but not "hardware present", is this a problem?
[11:21] <alexIdoi12> TaJMoX: yes sure I know all of that but how to display them in my top bar
[11:21] <imbecile> i've installed ktorrent and i only see bittorrent and utorrent when trying to open a .torrent file .. i guess what i'm asking  where i find ktorrent to use it?
[11:21] <nothingssomethin> and it will play subtitles if the dvd comes with subtitles
[11:21] <bruenig|laptop> imbecile, right click, change the open with
[11:21] <rodrigo> LDZ420: just want to transfer some files In to different harddisks
[11:21] <hubertb> nothingssomethin: it uses the lib automatically if it is avaiable  - or you dvds are not encrypted
[11:21] <nothingssomethin> !wiki vlc ubuntu
[11:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wiki vlc ubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:21] <TaJMoX> alexIdoi12: Install sensors-applet
[11:22] <nothingssomethin> lol
[11:22] <TaJMoX> alexIdoi12: the system monitor applet can show your memmory usage
[11:22] <nothingssomethin> wiki vlc
[11:22] <nothingssomethin> it will tell you
[11:22] <imbecile> bruenig,  its not in the options.. i can search for it though.. unfortunately i dont know where it is
[11:22] <CarmenSandiego> How do I delete something straight off, rather than moving it to the wastebasket? It was Shift+Delete on windows...
[11:22] <alexIdoi12> TaJMoX: thanks
[11:22] <bruenig|laptop> imbecile, custom command, ktorrent
[11:22] <LDZ420> rodrigo: so transfer file from Windows directory to Linux?
[11:22] <CaptainM> alexIdoi12, or google for conky. It's a bit of a pain to get working but it's worth the trouble
[11:23] <imbecile> bruenig|laptop,  thanks, you are the master of all things :)
[11:23] <numus> anyone use gaim and knows how to stop it from duplicating names when you have more then 1 aim account connected
[11:23] <rodrigo> not on the contrary, linux to windows
[11:23] <siloko> alexIdoi12: get conky :)
[11:23] <CyberphaZ> there an easy way to tell X in xorg.conf not to use mesa? im already using fgrlx, but somehow it uses mesa for opengl
[11:23] <rodrigo> LDZ420: not on the contrary, linux to windows
[11:23] <jbellis> I'm installing on a hp dv9500t.  I installed with the alternate CD (liveCD did not boot).  It's installed now and boots but X does not start -- "Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration."  Where would I start to fix this?
[11:23] <MrElendig> rodrigo: ntfs-3g
[11:23] <n2diy> CarmenSandiego: There is a why to add delete to your right click menu, I have it running here now. Try searching the forums for it?
[11:23] <TaJMoX> rodrigo: to access your linux partitions in windows, get a tool called "fsdriver"
[11:23] <n2diy> why/way
[11:24] <alexIdoi12> TaJMoX: once apt-geted where do I launch sensors-applets ?
[11:24] <CaptainM> CarmenSandiego, shift-delete works for me in gnome. It maybe buried in the options somewhere though
[11:24] <TaJMoX> rodrigo: http://www.fs-driver.org
[11:24] <asdf> how do you remove the desktop in Gnome link in Xfce
[11:24] <bruenig|laptop> alexIdoi12, if it is a panel applet, right click on the panel and select add the panel
[11:24] <CarmenSandiego> ok...
[11:24] <TaJMoX> alexIdoi12: right click on panel - add to panel - hardware sensors
[11:24] <hubertb> rodrigo: try http://www.fs-driver.org/ from windows
[11:24] <zabin> Everytime i restart my computer i have to reinstall my nvidia drivers also my max res is only 1024 x something ...
[11:25] <TaJMoX> hubertb: beat you!  =] 
[11:25] <dahito> anyone has some advice for DDOS .. ?
[11:25] <rodrigo> TaJMoX: but this is trough windows not trough linux right?
[11:25] <hubertb> TaJMoX: :-)
[11:25] <alexIdoi12> TaJMoX: I might have to restart x I don't see them in there
[11:25] <hubertb> jap
[11:25] <CRASH69> I have an 64bit processor, if I use _x86 (instead of _x86_64) will I have the 4GB ram limitation? even having a 64 bit processor?
[11:25] <TaJMoX> rodrigo: yes its a windoze program to make a drive letter out of your linux ext partitions
[11:25] <hubertb> CRASH69: no
[11:25] <bruenig|laptop> asdf, do you mean like in xfce where you can select for xfce not to manage the desktop
[11:26] <scrav> hi, anyone know what the dude means by hen recompile ALSA and load the module with option model=pbv7900 .? how to load module?
[11:26] <asdf> bruenig|laptop: pretty much, I just want to kill and restart the gnome-desktop without restarting gdm
[11:26] <TaJMoX> alexIdoi12: you can just restart the gnome panel with sudo killall gnome-panel
[11:26] <rodrigo> TaJMoX: ok so I must installed trough windows?
[11:26] <CRASH69> hubertb: excluding pae kernel
[11:26] <TaJMoX> rodrigo: yes boot into windows and install the fs-driver    then you can access your ext partitions in windows
[11:26] <bruenig|laptop> asdf, not sure what the name of the process is, put you may be able to just do killall gnome-desktop, I know killall gnome-panel will do just that but for the panel
[11:26] <alexIdoi12> conky is cool !
[11:26] <zabin> Everytime i restart my computer i have to reinstall my nvidia drivers also my max res is only 1024 x something ...
[11:26] <siloko> alexIdoi12: conky is very cool :)
[11:27] <hubertb> CRASH69: Then your cpu is running in 32bit mode with the limitation
[11:27] <rodrigo> TaJMoX: thanks I'll try to do it now! :)
[11:27] <siloko> alexIdoi12: checkout the various config options on the ubuntuforums thread . . .
[11:27] <CRASH69> hubertb: thx
[11:27] <TaJMoX> conky seems to eat a lot of cpu for me... because it's constantly checking everything, even on a high refresh time
[11:27] <hubertb> CRASH69: Maybe the other way is more usefull for you (using x64 kernel with 32 bit userspace)
[11:27] <zabin> does anyone run ubuntu 64bit?
[11:28] <bruenig|laptop> conky should run on almost no cpu and memory unless  you have introduced some crazy custom thing that does
[11:28] <CRASH69> hubertb:  any how to?
[11:29] <lobster> Ok.. trying to get my wifi card working on this other computer. it's a linksys wusb11v4. everything seems ok with it, and it says i'm connected to the wireless network, but a dialog keeps popping up asking for the passphrase (i know i'm doing it correctly, i am connected with it on this computer). also, no pages load, even though it says i'm connected to the network (and i can't ping the router) any ideas?
[11:29] <mneptok> TaJMoX: mneptok   6260  0.9  0.1   5856  1760 ?        S    15:17   1:15 /usr/bin/conky
[11:29] <hubertb> CRASH69: I don't know how to do this on ubuntu. I used it on debian etch. Just installed etch x86 and then apt-get installed amd64 kernel
[11:29] <asdf> bruenig|laptop: that didn't work
[11:29] <ldias> I'm having a hard time getting sound to work in dosemu (on feisty). it'll work fine on dosbox, but I really wanted to get it working on dosemu
[11:29] <mneptok> TaJMoX: it's well behaved here. if you'd like my .conkyrc i'm happy to share
[11:29] <redmozzy> good evening all
[11:29] <bruenig|laptop> asdf, I said I didn't know what the name of the process is, ps -A look for it, or check the /etc/init.d/gdm daemon and track down what all happens until you figure it out
[11:30] <TaJMoX> mneptok: okay thanks
[11:30] <Kprofthrea1> How would I run xfwm4 as my new WM?
[11:30] <alexIdoi12> TaJMoX: I have them install, but temp1, temp2 temp3 conrespond to what exactly ?
[11:31] <bruenig|laptop> Kprofthrea1, killall metacity ; xfwm4
[11:31] <TaJMoX> alexIdoi12: Depends on your motherboard, whatever is the hottest is your cpu =)  and there is probably a sensor somewhere else in your motherboard (probably for the cpu cooler) and one for the temp in your case
[11:31] <CRASH69> hubertb: nice, ok
[11:31] <Erlend> If I run a windows app with wine, does it have access files outside of ~/.wine?
[11:31] <nothingssomethin> nixnoob http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26419&page=3 this might help you wiith your problem
[11:31] <jatt> $ gnome-keybinding-properties
[11:31] <jatt> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[11:32] <jatt> :(
[11:32] <jatt> damn
[11:32] <redmozzy> does anyone know a trick to get linux to play music from a nas without having to actually copy the files to local machine? (im using 7.04 and a WD world mybook)
[11:32] <atrus25> I can't get my sound to work. I have run through all of the steps on http://linux.iuplog.com/default.asp?item=94639 this page. I have set my settings to all of the choices in system > preferences > sound and I still can't get any sound....as far as I can tell my computer is recognizing the sound card correctly, but I still get no sound. anyone have any ideas what I can try?
[11:33] <alexIdoi12> what temp a CPU should not go over you recon TaJMoX
[11:33] <TaJMoX> alexIdoi12: 60=bad usually
[11:33] <MrElendig> atrus25: fire up alsamixer and check that it's pcm and main is unmuted and turned up
[11:33] <MrElendig> and test with aplay
[11:33] <TaJMoX> alexIdoi12: what's it at now?
[11:33] <PurpZeY> Anyone know what would cause my PC Speaker to beep intermittently for some extended period of time, and then stop when I return home from work and move the mouse?
[11:34] <atrus25> MrElendig: I have done that...still nothing
[11:34] <CaptainM> PurpZeY, nope but it is a funny problem ;)
[11:34] <zabin> PurPZeY: stuck button? idk weird problem lol
[11:34] <redmozzy> lol
[11:34] <alexIdoi12> 34
[11:34] <alexIdoi12> TaJMoX: ^
[11:35] <PurpZeY> Yeah it was weird...It was just going bleep-bloop bleep-bloop and as soon as I touched it, it stopped
[11:35] <MrElendig> atrus25: speakers connected, on and working :?
[11:35] <atrus25> yes
[11:35] <nothingssomethin> does anyone know how to make ubuntu fistey to be  friendly  with palm treo
[11:35] <TaJMoX> PurpZeY: probably something to do with gnome-power-manager
[11:35] <redmozzy> haunted computer
[11:35] <TaJMoX> or screensaver
[11:35] <nothingssomethin> through bluetooth
[11:35] <atrus25> when I boot into wiindows everything works fine
[11:35] <PurpZeY> TaJMoX: It's a desktop though
[11:35] <CyberphaZ> is there a quick and easy way to tell X not to use mesa for openGL? (already using the ati fgrlx drivers)
[11:36] <TaJMoX> PurpZeY: so you have no power management enabled?   It's not set to sleep after a certain activity?   go into gnome-power-manager and see
[11:36] <TaJMoX> CyberphaZ: do you have composite = off in your xorg?
[11:36] <redmozzy> bye all
[11:36] <snk00sj> hi, all my desktop icons transform into text files when i click em
[11:37] <CyberphaZ> hmmm not sure taj ill have to check
[11:37] <snk00sj> this happened after installing gdesklets, i just removed the app, but nautilus/gnome doesn't handle .desktops icons correctly
[11:37] <PurpZeY> TaJMoX: Never go to sleep, never sleep monitor...But I do have a beep set for a problem with power management
[11:38] <PurpZeY>  TaJMoX: Or maybe with screensaver...Not sure I just have that box enabled.
[11:38] <nothingssomethin> does anyone know how to make ubuntu fistey to be  friendly  with palm treo
[11:38] <TaJMoX> PurpZeY: ah maybe that's the problem?   you can disable beeps completely with xset b off
[11:38] <PurpZeY> TaJMoX: I am just curious if what caused it is cause for concern
[11:39] <CarmenSandiego> Where are the shortcuts in Places>recent documents stored? Are there any other usage logging features in ubuntu?
[11:39] <ramanK> I'm lefthand.How can I change my mouse cursore to lefthand???
[11:39] <TaJMoX> PurpZeY: not sure where the power manager would log to
[11:39] <Romeo5k> NEED help badly.... im trying to set up proftpd thru CmL.. and i keep getting error. Everytime i type this in.. ' gksudo gedit /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf ' i get this.. '59): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[11:39] <PurpZeY> TaJMoX: Not /var/error ?
[11:39] <TaJMoX> PurpZeY: but if everything is working fine - there is probably no reason to be alarmed.
[11:40] <Ktron> Romeo5k, are you doing this through ssh?
[11:40] <Romeo5k> yes
[11:40] <PurpZeY> TaJMoX: Sounds good for now
[11:40] <Ropechoborra> Romeo5k gtk uses X
[11:40] <atrus25> MrElendig: yes they work fine....I have no problems in windows...just in ubuntu
[11:40] <Ktron> Romeo5k, gksudo and gedit call graphical stuff
[11:40] <carla> hola a todos
[11:40] <MrElendig> Romeo5k: use a cli instead
[11:40] <Ropechoborra> So u wont be able to do it with that program
[11:40] <MrElendig> cli editor*
[11:40] <Ktron> Romeo5k, try 'sudo vim /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf' or something
[11:40] <ramanK> Who can help me? "I'm lefthand.How can I change my mouse cursore to lefthand???"
[11:40] <TaJMoX> PurpZeY: I have xset b off in my /etc/rc.local because I got sick of annoying pc speaker beeps too =)
[11:40] <Ktron> Romeo5k, or pico or nano or whatever you use
[11:41] <Romeo5k> yer
[11:41] <PurpZeY> TaJMoX: Sounds good.
[11:41] <Ropechoborra> i like nano, simple, just for text editing :)
[11:41] <PurpZeY> TaJMoX: Thanks.
[11:41] <Romeo5k> Ktron: i get ssomething now..
[11:41] <deadlyallance069> what do i need to watch xvid on ubuntu
[11:41] <TaJMoX> Romeo5k try sudo nano /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf
[11:41] <Ktron> deadlyallance069, google w32codecs and ubuntu
[11:42] <carla> hello how are you?
[11:42] <Ktron> deadlyallance069, its a package
[11:42] <hubertb> deadlyallance069: gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[11:42] <MrElendig> ramanK: grab a pointer theme from e.g. gnome-look.org, that has a pointer faicing left
[11:42] <ramanK> Is There any body that can help me? "I'm lefthand.How can I change my mouse cursore to lefthand???"
[11:42] <Drk_Guy> !w32
[11:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:42] <Drk_Guy> !w32codecs
[11:42] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[11:43] <daan> CaptainM: do you know me?
[11:43] <hubertb> deadlyallance069: Or try videolan player (= vlc)
[11:43] <TaJMoX> ramanK: you can get lots of cursors at http://gnome-look.org   click on X11 Mouse Themes
[11:43] <CaptainM> daan, nope
[11:43] <Ktron> ramanK, Do you mean the buttons or the appearance?
[11:43] <osmosis> how do I get eclipse flex ?
[11:43] <SF100> hi can someone help me out with a sound problem?
[11:43] <CaptainM> you said 'moi' tot hat guy so I figured Groningen
[11:43] <ramanK> Ktron: appearance
[11:43] <nothingssomethin> ramanK does that matter??
[11:44] <Ktron> ramanK, Then yeah, go to gnome-look.org, find a theme you like, extract as it suggests
[11:44] <daan> CaptainM: well I go to school there so you were a bit right :P
[11:44] <Drk_Guy> SF100, what is eclipse flex?
[11:45] <ramanK> Ktron: Is there any way that I design them by a graphical software and use them?
[11:45] <SF100> Drk_Guy I dont know
[11:45] <Drk_Guy> If you are looking for a specific program and don't know what it does, you're nowhere
[11:45] <Ktron> ramanK, Sure, you can do it in an image editor-- the GIMP is popular for ubuntu
[11:45] <Drk_Guy> Google for it
[11:46] <Drk_Guy> GIMP Rocks!!!
[11:46] <Drk_Guy> GIMP owns P$ and P$ PRO
[11:46] <MelonenGuu> what
[11:46] <MelonenGuu> what would
[11:46] <SF100> Why Drk_Guy?
[11:46] <ramanK> Ktron: but how can I make them to a coursore ?
[11:46] <MrElendig> Drk_Guy: no
[11:46] <Drk_Guy> SF100, what why?
[11:47] <Ktron> ramanK, And then I'd look in /usr/themes for the pointer theme you're using, copy it to a different name, and edit that one
[11:47] <MrElendig> Drk_Guy: adobe ps is alot better than gimp for photo editing
[11:47] <Ktron> ramanK, There's tutorials, google for them
[11:47] <SF100> why do I need to know what eclipse flex
[11:47] <CaptainM> daan, well you sound like a regular old farmer
[11:47] <Drk_Guy> P$ doesn't have the elements required for the PROs to work
[11:47] <mhz`> anyone know how to change the character set of eggdrops?
[11:47] <Drk_Guy> GIMP have all of them
[11:47] <MelonenGuu> what would net send be in ubuntu
[11:47] <MelonenGuu> ?
[11:47] <mhz`> reason being is that the channel has some crazy ascii letters
[11:47] <Drk_Guy> And you can mod it's code if you want more flexibility and functions
[11:47] <SF100> I need some help with a sound problem, I had working sound in all system sounds and multimedia apps (xmms, totem, rhythmbox) and now I dont. When I test them (login, logout, warning, etc) in sound options, nothing. And now I only get sound from amarok and vlc. Ive gotten sound to work in the apps by changing the sound from alsa to oss in everything in System > Pref > Sound > Device tab
[11:47] <hubertb> MelonenGuu: "write" or "talk"
[11:48] <MrElendig> Drk_Guy: gimp lack 14/16 bit colour space and cmyk
[11:48] <daan> CaptainM: how do you mean? :)
[11:48] <MrElendig> among other things
[11:48] <SF100> but no system sounds
[11:48] <Ktron> I think the biggest argument against P$ is that most people who are editing photos are amateurs, and 200$ is a lot for amateurs to pay to begin with for software
[11:48] <ramanK> Ktron: oh , can you give me some words for googling?
[11:48] <Drk_Guy> You ARE lying
[11:48] <ProN00b> can i somehow have the screen shut down directly, without having the screensaver on for a minute ?
[11:48] <carla> good night
[11:48] <CaptainM> daan, moi is the one thing I say that make people instantly ask if i'm from Groningen
[11:49] <MrElendig> ProN00b: acpi can do that
[11:49] <MrElendig> if your hw supports it
[11:49] <Drk_Guy> But ramanK, if you know some spiders, you DON'T have to pay
[11:49] <ProN00b> MrElendig, well, how do i config it?
[11:49] <Drk_Guy> But i can't talk about it here
[11:49] <Ktron> ramanK, gnome X11 mouse themes create edit etc
[11:49] <ramanK> Ktron: thank you very much :)
[11:50] <TaJMoX> ramanK have you tried http://gnome-look.org
[11:50] <fran>  dune.irc-hispano.org
[11:50] <ramanK> TaJMoX: no
[11:50] <Drk_Guy> Anyway, i have been working with P$ and GIMP and i can say GIMP is A LOT easier to use
[11:50] <torhu> I'm looking a way to run linux inside windows (virtualization, emulation).  I don't need graphics, just a way to test cross-platform makefiles etc.  Any recommendations?
[11:50] <daan> CaptainM: Ok I get it, actually I am from Drenthe myself
[11:50] <ramanK> thanks all
[11:50] <TaJMoX> Ktron - mouse themes are installed as Icons
[11:50] <ramanK> bye
[11:50] <TaJMoX> Ktron: oops wrong person
[11:50] <hubertb> torhu: virtualbox.org
[11:51] <Ktron> TaJMoX, and ramanK left :)
[11:51] <hubertb> torhu: or cygwin
[11:51] <Ropechoborra> torhu VMWare ?
[11:51] <TaJMoX> yay vmware server
[11:51] <torhu> I have bad experiences with vmware
[11:51] <torhu> I want something that messes less with my windows
[11:51] <Ktron> torhu, VirtualPC :X
[11:52] <SF100> Sorry to repeat but I left off some info......I had working sound in all system sounds and multimedia apps (xmms, totem, rhythmbox) and now I dont. When I test them (login, logout, warning, etc) in sound options, nothing. And now I only get sound from amarok and vlc. Ive gotten sound to work in the apps by changing the sound from alsa to oss in everything in System > Pref > Sound > Device tab but no system sounds. I am also getting errors wh
[11:52] <MrElendig> torhu: virtualbox is nice
[11:52] <Panzerboy> ehlo
[11:52] <Drk_Guy> SF100, Try testing all the sound archs
[11:52] <fivetwentysix> What's the best program to use (for Linux) to develop web graphics?
[11:52] <MrElendig> torhu: damn fast with linux/linux
[11:52] <SF100> how do I do that Dk? Im a noob be gentle
[11:52] <jatt> web graphics?
[11:52] <Ktron> torhu, other than that vmware server, vmplayer, linspire (but that _installs_) or if you're not doing it often, you could just reboot the machine into linux with a livecd, test and reboot back into windows w/o installing linux
[11:52] <torhu> MrElendig: that looks ok, but it doesn't support shared folders or usb in the free version, so I'm wondering how to transfer files
[11:53] <Drk_Guy> SF100, System->Prefs->Sound
[11:53] <fivetwentysix> jatt: nothing fancy, just something capable of creating shapes and such.
[11:53] <torhu> I have wubi already
[11:53] <MrElendig> torhu: virtualbox supports shared folders
[11:53] <MrElendig> torhu: and it's always free
[11:53] <jatt> fivetwentysix: gimp?
[11:53] <MrElendig> torhu: and you can always use samba/nfs/FTP/SSh to share too
[11:53] <Rumpa> fivetwentysix: gimp, inkscape
[11:53] <Ktron> fivetwentysix, GIMP is common, and yeah, inkscape for vector art
[11:53] <fivetwentysix> Can gimp do shapes?
[11:54] <Drk_Guy> GIMP for normal phx, InkScape for SVG gpx
[11:54] <SF100> Drk Im there but whats a sound arc? I think you mean architecture
[11:54] <torhu> ok, it's the the open source version that doesn't support shared folders
[11:54] <Ktron> fivetwentysix, yes it can
[11:54] <torhu> MrElendig: thanks, I'll check it out
[11:54] <Drk_Guy> Architecture
[11:54] <MrElendig> torhu: I have the opens source version, and use shared forlders....
[11:54] <MrElendig> folders*
[11:54] <Drk_Guy> SF100, make the test with all the architectures available
[11:55] <torhu> ok, maybe wikipedia is outdated
[11:55] <Drk_Guy> Update it then, torhu
[11:55] <MrElendig> http://www.virtualbox.org/
[11:55] <SF100> OK I did that at first and switched everything to OSS and have sound from multimedia apps but no system sounds and when I ran gedit from the command prompt I got an alsa error:  ALSA lib pcm.c:2106:(snd_pcm_open_conf) Cannot open shared library /usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_pulse.so
[11:55] <Ktron> fivetwentysix, When you make an image, go to filters-->render-->GFig and make shapes as your heart desires
[11:55] <Ktron> fivetwentysix, or just use masks and do it that way
[11:55] <MrElendig> the whole vbox project is gpl now
[11:55] <Drk_Guy> SF100, either the module got corrupt, or the file has been deleted
[11:56] <Drk_Guy> Check the folder
[11:56] <SF100> ok so how would i know which and how would I fix it
[11:56] <SF100> ok
[11:56] <torhu> MrElendig: on windows, vmware installs a bunch of services (daemons), does virtualbox do something like that too?
[11:56] <Drk_Guy> Check if the file exists by now
[11:56] <MelonenGuu>  hubertb, How do I use it to send to the whole network?
[11:57] <hubertb> MelonenGuu: Sry, don't know
[11:57] <k31th> what does a default install of ubuntu server on dapper weigh in at at hwne its installed i think debian is like 249mb
[11:57] <MrElendig> torhu: just a few, depending on what you want
[11:57] <MrElendig> torhu: go to http://www.virtualbox.org/ and read for yourself
[11:57] <Drk_Guy> SF100, this is so strange
[11:57] <torhu> corporate websites tend to be less than helpful, but I'll try
[11:57] <fivetwentysix> Ktron so what if i want to make just a square?
[11:57] <MrElendig> for the host you need a kernel module (ofcause)
[11:57] <fivetwentysix> I'd have to do make the square my self?
[11:58] <MrElendig> for the guest you don't realy need anything
[11:58] <Drk_Guy> I DON'T have an alsa-lib folder in usr/lib
[11:58] <SF100> DRk, I just did and there isnt even an /usr/lib/alsa-lib folder
[11:58] <MrElendig> but the additions helps on performance and usability
[11:58] <Drk_Guy> Did you mess up with Alsa config files?
[11:58] <SF100> not at all
[11:58] <Judg3_Dr34D> Is there a plugin for Nautilus that will generate a preview of a file when you hover over it?
[11:59] <Drk_Guy> Not AT ALL?
[11:59] <] grimm[> Does anyone happen to know if there's a 3rd party repository where I could find svn builds of mplayer/mencoder and/or ffmpeg?
[11:59] <Drk_Guy> What do u mean?
[11:59] <SF100> well not before the problem, then I:  sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils
[11:59] <SF100> and reinstalled them
[11:59] <Drk_Guy> !w32codecs | ] grimm[
[11:59] <ubotu> ] grimm[: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[11:59] <Drk_Guy> Men
[11:59] <Drk_Guy> You deleted ALSA core
[12:00] <SF100> Drk I folled this post in the forums http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[12:00] <Drk_Guy> I don't even know how the f... you have sound
[12:00] <SF100> well I then reinstalled them as per the post I was following
[12:00] <] grimm[> ubotu & Drk_Guy:  Thanks
[12:00] <SF100> after I did the purge I then : sudo apt-get install linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils
[12:00] <Drk_Guy> try running this: sudo apt-get install linux-soundbase alsa-base alsa-utils
[12:01] <] grimm[> !w32codecs
[12:01] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[12:01] <Drk_Guy> For nothing, Grimm
[12:01] <SF100> hey just in case I forget thanks so much Drk
[12:01] <] grimm[> !Codecs
[12:01] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats