=== Catoptromancy_ [n=cat@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === BFTD [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.218.238.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === Redimere [n=pj@c-24-147-189-235.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:57] hey all [12:58] whose alive? [01:01] I can't find the Restricted Drivers thing through the menu, anybody know the command in terminal to start it? [01:06] Beuller? === sucapulli [n=leddolo@151.74.67.157] has joined #xubuntu [01:07] !ops [01:07] Help! somerville32, maxamillion, TheSheep, crimsun, Gloubiboulga, Nalioth, Seveas, tonyyarusso, PuMpErNiCkLe, apokryphos or gnomefreak [01:07] when one of you come about, I will inform you === sucapulli [n=leddolo@151.74.67.157] has left #xubuntu [] [01:08] Redimere, are you using feisty (its the only version with it) [01:08] nixternal: we are always around [01:08] I might be, I honestly don't know. I installed 6.06LTS at first, then used the update manager to go to 6.10 and then feisty to make my sound work. [01:09] nalioth: that sucapulli guy who just left has hit #kubuntu and #ubuntu and I figured he would be in here doing the same [01:09] we'll see [01:09] Is there a good way to tell? [01:14] Jester45: ? [01:15] Redimere, xubuntu feisty fawn 7.04 is the only version that has the restricted driver manager [01:15] yes, and I did the FAQ to install feisty [01:15] I'm not sure if the upgrade kicked in or not. Is there a good way to tell? [01:16] Err... How-to [01:16] not FAQ. >.> [01:16] Redimere, look in /etc/apt/sources.list [01:16] and see what version [01:17] Feisty [01:18] humm [01:18] ii cant tell you the command as i removed it from my menu [01:18] but there is a command there is a command for everything [01:18] Right, but damned if I know what it is [01:18] because I lost my gnome start button somehow... and I dunno how to put it back [01:19] what are you looking for? [01:19] Restricted Driver's manager [01:19] Jester45, what command? [01:20] ok....one sec [01:21] look in the /usr/share/applications/ folder and find a .desktop file that sounds like the right one. then run cat /path/to/file.desktop | grep Exec [01:22] that might be it [01:22] Redimere, gksudo restricted-manager [01:23] i would of got it... if i didnt remove mine [01:23] lol shit happens [01:23] but that isn't working. Do you know what the package is called? [01:23] restricted-manager [01:24] what are you trying to do? [01:24] enable my damn graphics card [01:24] hmm [01:24] it didn't like it when I asked for that package. [01:25] what it say? [01:25] !info restricted-manger [01:25] Redimere, if you want to LOAD a driver, then sudo modprobe [driver] [01:25] Package restricted-manger does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas [01:26] !info restricted-manager [01:26] restricted-manager: manage non-free hardware drivers. In component main, is optional. Version 0.20 (feisty), package size 32 kB, installed size 300 kB [01:26] Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have [01:26] requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable [01:26] distribution that some required packages have not yet been created [01:26] or been moved out of Incoming. [01:26] Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that [01:26] the package is simply not installable and a bug report against [01:26] that package should be filed. [01:26] The following information may help to resolve the situation: [01:26] The following packages have unmet dependencies: [01:26] openoffice.org-l10n-en-gb: Conflicts: openoffice.org-core (>= 2.0.5) but 2.2.0-1ubuntu3 is to be installed [01:26] openoffice.org-l10n-en-za: Conflicts: openoffice.org-core (>= 2.0.5) but 2.2.0-1ubuntu3 is to be installed [01:27] now, I'm a newb, but I'm pretty sure Openoffice has NOTHING to do wiht restricted drivers [01:27] oh man....your apt-get is fried! [01:27] hehe it doesnt [01:27] but it can't be lol, I've been using it this whole time and it hasn't given me a hiccup yet [01:27] was this an upgrade or clean install? [01:27] it was an upgrade [01:27] but all the dependacies have to be met for ALL packages before new ones can be installed [01:27] it shows [01:28] well, I followed the xubuntu upgrade thinger... [01:28] do this: [01:28] sudo apt-get install openoffice.org [01:28] works [01:28] this will fix that upgrade messing up your apt issue [01:29] but I don't even know what language za stands for lol [01:29] me either [01:29] !za [01:29] Sorry, I don't know anything about za - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [01:29] darn [01:29] curses, foiled again [01:29] all this for CS... jesus. [01:30] cd? [01:30] cs? [01:30] Counter-Strike [01:30] Went from 6.06 to fiesty because I accidentally broke my sound card [01:30] and somewhere in the mix that got fixed, but my ATI drivers got blown to hell [01:30] Now I have to upgrade Openoffice to fix my video drivers [01:30] God I love linux. === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-23-222.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === teratoma [n=teratoma@twinlark.arctic.org] has joined #xubuntu === teratoma [n=teratoma@twinlark.arctic.org] has left #xubuntu [] [01:31] Redimere, did you bypass edgy altogether? [01:31] Nope, Dapper to Edgy to Fiesty [01:31] yuck [01:32] that bad, eh? [01:32] dapper to edgy was a bad thing :) they might have fixed it === vidd hates to upgrade === Redimere does too [01:32] if they didnt fix it your lucky you can boot [01:32] well, that was a tricky situation [01:33] X got really mad at me. [01:33] I still can't run a second Xserv === vidd keeps a seperate /home partition so he can do a clean install.... === Redimere wishes he'd thought of that beforehand. [01:33] its a LEARNING experience === Jester45 keeps a /home /etc /var and / partitions [01:34] :P I installed linux so it'd be a hobby, not so it would work perfectly all the time [01:35] it works perfectly all the time for me (with very little problems) === Redimere smirks, "If it ain't broke, it don't have enough features" [01:36] it has ALWAYS worked for me....not always the way i expected....but it always worked.... === skirk [n=skirk@host-84-220-89-150.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #xubuntu [01:36] lol [01:36] like when put a spelling error in my sudoers file..... [01:36] same here, I just like refining it to the point where I stop noticing I'm running my PC not on windoze [01:37] okay, wtf [01:37] it worked as it should....it locked up sudo and i had to drive into work to fix it [01:37] Redimere, now what? [01:37] apt-get installed TOTEM when I told it to install open-office [01:37] just relax [01:38] I am relaxed [01:38] if I wasn't relaxed I'dve thrown something by now [01:38] its probably a dependency (for what i dont know) [01:38] but these tings have a way of working themselves out [01:38] Yar [01:39] you COULD drop back 10 yards and punt.... [01:39] That's what my mom's cat is for. [01:39] I love my computer. [01:39] you could try apt-get check [01:39] she's doing fine now, just need to get another damn dependency [01:39] and it should work. [01:40] sudo apt-get remove x11-common && sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get install {x}ubuntu-desktop === rolfen [n=rolf@89.108.140.162] has joined #xubuntu [01:40] xfce is cool [01:40] O.o; what's that gonna do to Banshee? [01:41] rolfen: I concur [01:41] that rips out all gui stuff, cleans out unneeded dependencies, and installs the gui clean [01:42] and leaves config files intact [01:42] !info Banshee [01:42] banshee: Audio Management and Playback application. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.1+dfsg-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2105 kB, installed size 6204 kB [01:42] My computer's name is Banshee [01:42] ... [01:42] Redimere, you just re-install it [01:42] right-o [01:42] ah ok lol [01:42] oh.... [01:42] lol sorry 'bout the confusion [01:43] it's just easier saying Banshee then My computer. Otherwise I'd get confused, and Spectre would get jealous. [01:43] that is the way i upgraded my newest system from dapper to fiesty [01:44] mmkay, do I need to reboot all the way to make the enabled driver work? or will rebooting X suffice. [01:44] Redimere, you sound like a true sysadmin...already got a naming system! [01:44] The comps at school are King Arthur's knights [01:44] Redimere, just rebooting x should suffice [01:44] my computers are all named after horrid females renown for screeching and pain and death [01:44] and my sisters computer has always, and will always, be called sitting-duck === vidd names his comps for the seven deadly sins [01:45] =] [01:45] haha [01:45] my home server is sloth [01:45] be right back === Redimere [n=pj@c-24-147-189-235.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:46] once the old lady's comp gets converted it will be "pestilence" [01:46] noice === cheeseboy [n=greg@24-107-232-143.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [01:46] the boy's machine is "death" [01:46] how do i find big files? === Redimere watches his urge to kill rise. [01:46] display: :0.0 screen: 0 [01:46] OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org [01:46] OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect [01:46] OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.1) [01:47] !paste | Redimere [01:47] Redimere: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [01:47] mmkay [01:47] This is starting to bug me, restricted tells me the ATI driver is in use, but flgrx is still hassling me about stupid MESA [01:47] so...desktop looking right now? [01:48] Apt-get gave me grief again [01:48] I might just order feisty CDs or something [01:48] Redimere, drop back and punt [01:48] =] [01:48] need that command again? [01:48] Yar. [01:49] is that a "yes" or a dismissal? [01:49] a yes [01:49] sudo apt-get remove x11-common && sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get install {x}ubuntu-desktop [01:50] replace {x}ubuntu with the appropreate version [01:50] ie xubuntu-desktop [01:50] or ubuntu-desktop [01:50] or kubuntu-desktop === BFTD [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.218.238.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:50] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29169/ [01:51] sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org-l10n-en-gb openoffice.org-l10n-en-za [01:52] then sudo apt-get autoremove [01:52] oops, just did your whole big command. [01:52] cheers though, it's removing a gig of something.. [01:53] ...will I dream, dave? [01:53] it will clear out EVERYTHING [01:53] and might fix stuff you didnt know were broken yet [01:54] oh yeah....it will kill your X session too..... === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #xubuntu === Redimere [n=XNETSplo@c-24-147-189-235.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:01] Well [02:01] That was odd. [02:01] oh yeah....it will kill your X session too..... [02:01] =] [02:01] I'm aware [02:01] I'm on my windoze laptop getting very worried my comp isn't doing anything anymore. [02:02] sorry....i thought you were on a different machine [02:02] I am now lol [02:02] how long should it take? [02:02] do you have a tty open? [02:02] a what? [02:02] [02:03] No [02:03] do it now [02:03] that's what I was gonna deal with next [02:03] that doesn't work. [02:03] ??? [02:03] reboot [02:03] it puts up a very trippy bunch of colors and bars [02:04] try f2 [02:04] same deal with all of them [02:04] then reboot [02:04] I was trying to configure steam to run on another xserv and it got mad [02:04] but it's rebooting now [02:04] have no fear....vidd is here [02:05] =] [02:05] ive done this b4...many times [02:05] lol [02:05] I remember last time I tried to run linux [02:05] Slackware. === Redimere shudders. [02:06] Redimere steam as in the gaming steam? [02:06] Yar. [02:06] Uh [02:06] Vidd [02:06] it's not getting past the splash screen [02:06] yeah? [02:06] yep. [02:06] [02:07] Nothing from any of them [02:07] could be a kernel panic [02:07] hrm.... [02:07] reboot into recovery [02:07] Done [02:08] kay, got a prompt [02:08] apt-get remove x11-common && apt-get autoremove [02:08] Ohh [02:08] It was only halfway done with the remove bit [02:09] exactly [02:09] so half the stuff was still there [02:09] and thus it could only half boot [02:09] and gets pissy [02:09] kernel panics show themselves [02:09] it might of been fscking the HDD\ [02:09] btw f?> are tty''s [02:10] ttys, kay [02:10] well those didn't work [02:10] that is correct [02:10] autoremove is instlaling now === vidd had (miostakenly) assumed you were using one of them for the command [02:10] dude that contrl-alt-f2 is cool but scary i thought i had lost my x session for good [02:10] lol [02:11] nope, it's handy when your mucking about in wine [02:11] HAHA [02:11] because if that borks, which it will [02:11] you don't have to nix everything [02:11] or removing x....and everything built on it [02:11] yeah, about htat. [02:11] okay, whats the command to make banshee go again [02:11] reboot [02:11] apt-get install xubuntu-desktop? [02:11] reboot first [02:12] you dont want to be in recovery for this [02:12] right-o === rolfen [n=rolf@89.108.140.162] has joined #xubuntu [02:12] it WILL work...but you will need to reboot anyway to get back in your x session [02:13] really, will it? [02:13] it's taking an awful long time to reboot ;; [02:14] I think it hung on the boot process with the little mouse in the wheel and the load bar [02:14] you should not be getting those..... [02:14] recovery again? [02:14] yeah [02:15] btw, should my kernel say generic? [02:15] yes [02:15] vidd, if your upgrade from a older version the splash screen still shows unles you disable it or remove the config for it [02:15] and the defualt feisty one will replave it (no splash) [02:16] well either way it wasn't booting period. [02:16] Redimere, from recovery....apt-get install xubuntu-desktop [02:17] your usre that won't fuck it up? [02:17] positive [02:17] all it is doing is reinstalling the default programs [02:17] mmkay, I just thought some packages needed to be installed from my directory [02:18] they will....but AFTER your x and apt are working [02:18] well, apt is throwing an appropriate amount of gobeldy-gook at me [02:19] which is comforting oddly enough [02:19] lol [02:19] oh that's just entertaining, apt just installed itself over itself [02:20] it upgraded itsself [02:20] well either way it's silly [02:21] 2.6.20 is the newest kernel, right? [02:21] 2.6.21-5 afaik === Redimere mumbles [02:21] but for ubuntu i guess it 2.6.20 === kalikiana [n=kalikian@xdsl-84-44-176-81.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu [02:22] !2.6.21 [02:22] Sorry, I don't know anything about 2.6.21 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [02:22] !latest kernel [02:22] Sorry, I don't know anything about latest kernel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [02:22] oh fuck you you don't [02:22] your running on it. [02:22] !linux-image [02:22] Sorry, I don't know anything about linux-image - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [02:22] !killself [02:22] Sorry, I don't know anything about killself - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [02:22] www.linux.org :D [02:23] !linux-kernel [02:23] Sorry, I don't know anything about linux-kernel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [02:23] rolf [02:23] that'd actually involve me [02:23] moving the mouse [02:23] to firefox [02:23] and then going to that page, when there's a perfectly good bot to harass here. [02:23] i mean www.kernel.org sorry [02:23] ok :) [02:24] !the body in the closet [02:24] oh you just made it mad now. [02:24] :P === Redimere crosses his fingers [02:24] !the-body-in-the-closet [02:24] !humour [02:24] Sorry, I don't know anything about humour - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [02:25] !lesbians [02:25] Sorry, I don't know anything about lesbians - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [02:25] !the-body-in-the-closet [02:25] weird [02:25] come on banshee... just a little bit more.. [02:25] she hangs at like the last half-bar [02:25] then the video goes screwy and shit flashes [02:26] maybe its because its banshee :) [02:26] can you get to a tty? [02:26] she's banshee because she's got a high pitched fan that scares the shit out of my moms cat [02:26] and no I can't [02:27] hrm.... [02:27] !language [02:27] Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly. [02:27] whoops, my bad. [02:27] but she really does soil herself if I spook her properly [02:28] Vidd, this isn't looking good... [02:28] Redimere, we want you to dpkgreconfigure xserver-xorg from the recovery.... [02:28] we? and okay. [02:28] something is wrong with your driver [02:29] vidd, are you becoming like TheSheep [02:30] * dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [02:32] okay [02:32] cross your fingers [02:33] Yaya! [02:33] We're past the boot screen [02:34] there...now you can do whatever it was you were doing b4 [02:34] =] [02:34] I actually don't remember [02:34] you were fixing your video and sound [02:34] no, I as fighting the good fight against wine glitchyness. [02:35] but sound and video are nice, [02:35] oh...didnt you hear...wine is evil [02:35] =] [02:35] duh [02:35] it makes you use windows apps [02:35] well [02:35] not apps [02:35] I just wanna play counterstrike man [02:35] app then [02:36] food for thought though [02:36] my tty's still aren't working [02:36] that is strange [02:36] you are using the 3 keys.... [02:36] crtl [02:36] alt [02:37] ctrl alt f8, then ctrl alt f2 [02:37] f-1 [02:37] I recognize the image now though [02:37] it's my desktop on f7 [02:37] ctlr alt f8 is a x session [02:38] right, but f8, and f1 f2 f3 f4 f5 f6 [02:38] all of them don't work [02:38] and you have to jump through hoops to be able to show more then one x session [02:38] which would be dandy [02:38] except tty isn't showing up either. [02:38] press ctrl alt f1.... [02:38] on the blank screen, hit the enter key [02:38] what happens? [02:39] the screen isn't blank [02:39] what does it say? [02:39] it's an image of my desktop with screwy resolution and colors [02:39] and completely static [02:39] try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart [02:39] it will reboot x [02:40] you have 2 sessions running [02:40] Jester45, f7 is fine.... [02:40] vidd, but it should kill the F1 also then restart the F7 [02:40] ah.... [02:40] *should* [02:40] should he not do that from a terminal in f7 then? [02:40] by the way [02:41] the only thing that booted up before I tried F1 [02:41] was GAIM [02:41] pidgin* [02:41] wow [02:41] it doesnt matter because it will restart gdm [02:41] should I wait [02:41] no...do it right away [02:41] a messed up image with hue colorations popped up on my screen [02:41] kinda like the one for F1 [02:41] only without icons or windows [02:42] oop, there it goes I think [02:42] nope, it rebooted [02:43] and does the tty's work now? [02:43] Nope. [02:44] Jester45, sounds like that restarted both of them [02:44]