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thumperkiko: morning12:43
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tristanbobkiko: I am not a developer, but I wanted to register the project in launchpad to see what it has to offer12:45
tristanbobthe project is called ZipTie (www.ziptie.org)12:45
kikotristanbob: okay. would you like to set up CVS import of it?12:47
tristanbobkiko: I would like to give it a try :)01:02
tristanbobhttp://www.ziptie.org/source01:02
kikotristanbob: done:01:06
kikohttps://launchpad.net/ziptie/trunk01:06
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superm1hi guys, i saw bug 117829 - and i was curious about PPA, do I get access to it as a launchpad beta user, or is that a sep. beta program?01:12
ubotuLaunchpad bug 117829 in soyuz "Allow PPA only for 'launchpad-beta-testers' members" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/117829 - Assigned to Celso Providelo (cprov)01:12
Fujitsusuperm1: I think it's the normal beta group, but your best bet is to just try and see if it works.01:12
superm1Fujitsu, how do I access that part of launchpad?01:12
Fujitsusuperm1: You need to add a section in your dput.cf, to upload to incoming.dogfood.launchpad.net:~username/ubuntu01:12
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superm1Fujitsu, alright.  i'll see later this evening then.  and then i can just dput dcs's there01:12
superm1and have them show up at dogfood.launchpad.net i'd take it?01:12
kikosuperm1, or ping cprov tomorrow -- but yes01:12
FujitsuThey show up in ppa.dogfood.launchpad.net01:12
superm1are there ppa buildd's then, or it goes into the same pool?01:12
superm1(as the normal buildds)01:12
FujitsuThere are two Xen-based buildds dedicated to PPA. They're separate from the normal ones.01:12
superm1ah wonderful01:12
superm1they would likely be building much faster than my weak little thinkpad built stuff too:)01:12
Kmosi'm at beta testing team and isn't today it switchs to beta ?01:12
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mptGooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders!02:44
jmlmpt: It's an early afternoon02:44
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ubotuNew bug: #124984 in rosetta "Two different translations for the same language" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12498405:25
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jameshspiv, thumper, BjornT: ping (reviewers meeting)08:00
thumperjamesh: pong08:00
jameshunping BjornT since he is at EuroPython08:01
spivI'm here.08:01
BjornTi'm partly here, though08:01
thumper3's a quorum I guess08:01
jamesh== Agenda ==08:02
jamesh * Roll call08:02
jamesh * Next meeting08:02
jamesh * Queue status.08:02
jamesh * Timely assignment of queue items08:02
jameshlifeless is at EuroPython, so is not here08:02
thumperhere08:03
jameshIs everyone happy for the same time next week for the next meeting?08:03
thumperyeah08:03
lifelesswish me luck, talk is in a few hours; thank y ou for the incremental diffs; bye08:03
thumperlifeless: <- luck08:03
BjornTi'll be sprinting next week08:04
jameshokay.  So that's 17th July, 06:00 UTC08:04
jamesh* Queue status.08:05
thumperit's long08:05
jameshthe queue looks huge and has a lot of red08:05
jameshI need to finish allocating the remaining reviews08:05
thumperDue to the slow allocation, I picked off some yesterday08:05
jameshthumper: thank you08:05
thumperI've done six over the past two days08:05
jameshas mentioned on the lists, I've implemented incremental diffs now, which should make it easier to allocate reviews fairly08:06
thumperjamesh: thanks for that08:06
jameshand the "Reviewer workload" section should give a better indication of how much work each person has to do08:06
spivjamesh: as I said on the list, that sounds excellent.  Thank you.08:07
jameshstub has 7 past-due branches in needs-review state08:08
jameshI guess they are not too urgent while the db is frozen though08:08
thumperjamesh: for branches that are in stub's queue and general, it doesn't show properly08:08
thumperthere are about 20 branches in the DBA queue08:09
thumper(I think)08:09
spivthumper: I count 13 needs-review in the DBA queue.08:09
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spiv(hooray for "?highlight=%28needs-review%29"...)08:10
jameshthumper: well, if we assume the DBA queue is low priority during freeze and the branch is listed twice, we are more interested in the occurence in the general queue08:10
thumperjamesh: but the DB isn't unfrozed for all that long08:11
thumperideally all the DBA branches should be reviewed and ready for landing prior to unfreezing08:11
thumperI digress though08:11
jameshthumper: sure.  We should check how stub is doing08:11
thumperDBA reviews are another problem08:11
jameshBjornT: you have a branch that is 13 days old.  Do you want to reject it for reassignment?08:12
jameshgiven you're at a conference?08:12
BjornTjamesh: no, i can review it. it's a post-merge review that i've already reviewed once.08:13
jameshBjornT: okay.08:14
jamesh* Timely assignment of queue items08:14
jameshI am allocating reviews while lifeless is away08:15
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thumperhopefully the dependant branch stuff will help08:15
jameshI allocated part of the queue yesterday, and was working on finishing the intermediate diff feature before doing the rest08:15
thumperjamesh: did flacoste's branches scare you off?08:15
jameshI'll do the rest after the meeting08:15
jameshthumper: trying to balance them scared me off08:15
thumper:)08:16
jameshit is good that he is providing easy to review chunks for the feature though08:16
jamesh* other business08:17
jameshdoes anyone else have anything to discuss?08:17
thumpernope08:18
jameshokay.  meeting over.08:18
thumperthanks jamesh08:18
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carlosmorning10:21
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Hobbseemorning carlos, seb128, sabdfl and everyone lese who just entered10:23
seb128hi Hobbsee10:24
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mrevellHobbsee: Hey, how are you getting on with edge?10:49
Hobbseemrevell: seems slow, but havent noticed anything different.  maybe more options on l.n/ubuntu10:51
ubotuNew bug: #125008 in launchpad "Wrong status from kernel bug tracker fetched" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12500810:51
mrevellHobbsee: Ah, I have to say I'm not finding it at all slow.10:52
mrevellHobbsee: Is there anything in particular that's running more slowly for you?10:52
Hobbseemrevell: well, remember, i am in australia10:52
Hobbseedunno. maybe i just perceieve it slower10:53
Hobbseeit's only a couple of seconds slower, at worst10:53
Hobbseeso, seeing as the average load time is 15+ seconds (last time i hcecked, it was down to 20 seconds), it's neither here nor there10:53
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ubotuNew bug: #125010 in launchpad-bazaar "HTTP GET and HEAD requests to http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~USER/PRODUCT/PERSON are very slow" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12501011:00
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ubotuNew bug: #125016 in soyuz "Port ftpmaster-tools/archive-integrity-check.py to use LP standards" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12501612:00
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ubotuNew bug: #125019 in soyuz "Port ftpmaster-tools/remove-package.py" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12501912:26
ubotuNew bug: #125022 in soyuz "Port ftpmaster-tools/sync-source.py to use LP standards" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12502212:31
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dokolifeless: trying to convert a baz archive to bzr ...12:53
dokoit starts, then stops with:12:53
doko$ bzr baz-import baz doko@ubuntu.com--2006-pkg-openofficeimporting doko@ubuntu.com--2006-pkg-openoffice/openofficeorg--ubuntu--2.1 into /home/packages/ooo/bzr/baz/openofficeorg/2.1/ubuntu12:54
dokounable to access ancestor debian-openoffice@lists.debian.org--packages/openofficeorg--unstable--2.0.1--patch-36, making into a merge.12:54
dokoCleaning up                                                                            12:54
dokoImport complete.12:54
dokoimporting doko@ubuntu.com--2006-pkg-openoffice/openofficeorg--ubuntu--2.2 into /home/packages/ooo/bzr/baz/openofficeorg/2.2/ubuntu12:54
dokounable to access ancestor debian-openoffice@lists.debian.org--packages/openofficeorg--unstable--2.0.1--patch-36, making into a merge.12:54
dokoCleaning up                                                                            12:54
dokobzr: ERROR: Working tree is out of date, please run 'bzr update'.12:54
kikomorning12:54
dokosucessful?12:54
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kikohey this edge redirect is pretty cool!!01:04
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RainCTHi01:18
kikohey01:19
kikompt?01:19
RainCTwhat's mpt? :s01:20
kikoa person01:21
mptmpt is nobody important01:21
kikompt!01:21
RainCTah ok :P01:21
kikompt, you know aaron schwartz right?01:21
kikoswartz sorry01:21
mptWe're virtual aquaintances, yes01:22
kikompt, can you ask him about https://launchpad.net/aaronsw ?01:22
kikomaybe he was meaning to use staging.01:22
RainCTthe Edge server is pretty unstable :/01:22
mptkiko, or maybe he assumed things were deletable01:22
RainCTloading 2 pages it said 5 times that the server is not answering lol01:23
mptkiko, I'll mail him.01:23
kikothanks01:23
kikoRainCT, which pages?01:23
RainCTkiko: login and editing a bug01:23
kikoI'm using it with no problems01:24
kikomaybe you've for intarnet problems?01:24
RainCTseems to work now01:27
RainCTmay be, but I don't think so since I was opening also other pages and they worked01:27
kikoBjornT, barry: ping01:32
barrykiko: pong01:32
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kikobarry, the review queue is looking pretty gnarly. do you have time for a few today?01:33
barrykiko: sure01:33
kikoI'll do a few today too.01:34
barrykiko: do you have some time later today to talk about some xmlrpc stuff?01:35
kikobarry, I might, but it will be a long day for me01:35
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gnomefreakwhy does my bug links have bugs.edge.launchpad?01:52
gnomefreakthe .edge. being the part that confused me01:52
gnomefreakis that the testing release of LP like beta was used?01:53
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RainCTon question, if a team is set as bug contact for a product, do all members of it receive a mail when a bug is reported or is it only send to the team mail?02:00
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kikognomefreak, yes02:11
gnomefreakty02:12
kikoRainCT, if there's a team email address then only that will be used02:12
RainCTok thanks02:12
kikognomefreak, read more about this on the launchpad users list02:12
gnomefreakkiko: ok will do ty02:12
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BjornTkiko: pong02:38
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kikoBjornT, how are you looking to do some reviews today? I know you're EPing..02:45
BjornTkiko: i'll see if i find time to do some small ones.02:47
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kikothanks BjornT 02:53
lifelessdoko: not successful no. Also, #bzr!03:00
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brmassaguys, i just created a project on Launchpad. now i need to import all my files on it. how i do this?03:16
brmassai went to "register a branch" but it needs "Branch URL", which i dont know what means...03:17
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brmassajamesh, bac, beuno, carlos, fernando1?03:25
kikobrmassa, what do you mean by import all my files?03:25
kikobrmassa, do you have a subversion or CVS repository? or do you want to use bzr?03:25
brmassakiko, thanks! well... my new project is only on my computer. im not using yet any vcs...03:26
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brmassai want to use bazaar+launchpad.03:27
brmassaim familiar with 03:27
brmassaCVS03:27
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kikobrmassa, okay. here's some help:03:27
brmassai have the latest bazaar here. 0.1703:28
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brmassai know how to locally version my files but i dont have a clue how to integrate with external repositories. how to export the files to launchpad specially.03:29
kikoone sec.03:29
brmassayep03:29
kikohttps://help.launchpad.net/BazaarLinks03:30
kikohttp://ddaa.net/blog/launchpad/bzr-hosting03:30
ddaameh?03:30
ddaaisn't there anything more recent and maintained?03:30
matsubaraI think the help tab in https://code.launchpad.net/ is better for what brmassa wants03:31
ddaaor that: During our last meeting in London, I made a point that a killer feature03:31
ddaafor bzr was "good brainless two-way interoperation with svn". And I03:31
ddaamean killer feature as in "wake up one day and find out we have taken03:31
ddaaover the world".03:31
ddaaoops03:31
ddaaor that: https://help.launchpad.net/FeatureHighlights/EasyBranching03:32
brmassajezz!! thanks kiko. matsubara, i went there and i didnt find anything i needed.03:32
kikocool03:32
matsubarawell, the help tab seems to explain how to push a branch to LP, but I might have misunderstood what you need...03:34
brmassamatsubara, well... all launchpad is so big and connected that its confusing. maybe you are right. im gonna look all these pages. thanks all03:38
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ubotuNew bug: #125042 in launchpad "Race condition in team invite form leads to OOPS" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12504203:50
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theuniIs any admin online who can help me removing a broken branch directory from lp?04:42
lifelessnot so easily :)04:42
theuni:/04:42
lifelesswe don't really support deletion of branches as such; what is wrong though - is it a bad branch, or you just want to be able to push clean again?04:42
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ubotuNew bug: #125050 in launchpad "It didn't get my registration correct" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12505005:00
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tsmithehi. i've noticed that more and more people have PPAs these days, so i went to dogfood. to check it out, and activated mine (i think it would be useful for testing my packages, and maybe the ubuntustudio-dev team could go on to use one). however, i'm stuck as to where to upload to08:52
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kikotsmithe, ask cprov! :)09:01
tsmithecprov, hi!09:02
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kikobut many people here should know too09:02
kikoFujitsu and crimsun for instance09:02
tsmithecool, thanks :) i'm not in a hurry :)09:03
kikoGwaihir, do you have a PPA?09:03
GwaihirPPA? sorry... don't know what you mean...09:04
Gwaihir:(09:04
ubotuNew bug: #125103 in soyuz "ppa archives are not signed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12510309:05
Gwaihirnot that I know...09:10
ubotuNew bug: #125104 in soyuz "build listing contains architectures other than i386 and amd64" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12510409:10
cprovtsmithe: hi09:13
tsmithehow do i upload to my PPA?09:13
kikotsmithe, siretart too09:13
tsmithe(what directory? fqdn = ppa.dogfood.net? user = tsmithe [for eg] )09:14
superm1cprov, what user / pw are you supposed to be using to use ppa?  I had just put in the first part of my LP login, and junk for a password 09:17
superm1and it appeared dput let me push it09:17
tsmithedput will push it, but LP will most likely reject it09:17
superm1it got rejected, but that aws a different reason09:17
superm1i had UNRELEASED in the changelog09:17
cprovtsmithe: superm1: ~/dput.rc09:17
cprov[my-ppa] 09:17
cprovfqdn = upload.dogfood.launchpad.net 09:17
cprovincoming = ~<LP_NAME>/ubuntu/09:17
cprovlogin = anonymous09:17
superm1rather than gutsy09:17
superm1there we go.  great :)09:18
superm1are there team ppa's to?09:18
superm1*too09:18
tsmithecprov, aaah thanks09:18
cprovsuperm1: yes, use the team '~<LPNAME>'09:19
superm1ooh even better.  in the end, do these show up on as a apt-get'able repo, or just as debs in a folder on dogfood?09:20
kikosuperm1, the latter09:20
superm1at least wget'able then to place on a diff repo then09:21
superm1where is the url they will show up?09:21
kikohttps://dogfood.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas09:22
kikosuperm1, look at that page.09:22
superm1heyo, thats pretty sweet09:22
superm1so the intended use for ppas is to provide builds prior to pushing through the normal buildds (as a pbuilder/sbuild alternative), or for revus and such too?09:24
siretartkiko: sorry?09:24
kikosuperm1, the latter.09:24
superm1ah so this will eventually be replacing revu.tauware.de?09:25
siretartsuperm1: rather complement09:25
kikocomplement, correct.09:25
superm1siretart, so the process will eventually move to uploading to both?09:25
jkakarI seem to keep getting redirected to edge.launchpad.net... is that expected?  Do changes made on edge affect production data?09:26
siretartsuperm1: I'd rather see REVU using ppas as package backend. eventually, you submit the url to a source package to revu, instead of uploading a sourc epackage09:26
jkakarI seem to keep getting redirected to edge.launchpad.net... is that expected?  Do changes made on edge affect production data?09:26
jkakarOops. :)09:26
superm1siretart, and that would improve revu's ability to run linda/lintian on binary files too.  i see09:26
superm1siretart, how far out is that?09:26
siretartsuperm1: not started. 09:27
Kmosjkakar: yes.. at http://launchpad.net you can remove the beta for a time09:27
jkakarKmos: Ah, thanks.09:28
superm1i don't think i read that right, so changes will be affecting production data too?09:28
superm1or no09:28
Kmossuperm1: for edge!09:28
kikojkakar, yes, edge is production, and it's expected -- read launchpad-users.09:29
jkakarkiko: Cool will do, thanks.09:29
siretartkiko: can you sync the group membership data from production to dogfood?09:30
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cprovsiretart: not easily, but I can add membership per-request09:31
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siretartcprov: oh, then leave it, its then not worth the efford09:33
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rajazzhello!!!09:35
rajazzi want to register, anyone knows the service??09:35
siretartrajazz: on the upper right, there is a link for login/register09:35
rajazzwhere do i register with /msj xxxxxx REGISTER xxxxxxxx09:36
rajazzsiretart: thanks09:36
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rajazzsiretart: i registered with the folloewin':   /msg NickServ REGISTER  [passwrd]   :D09:38
rajazzthanks :D09:38
rajazzthere is a difference with other servers... like OFTC09:39
rajazzi need shippin' CDs to me, cause i'm installin' some SO in Argentina...09:44
rajazza friend show me ubuntu... that's great09:45
rajazzbut i have a a stupid question... :-/09:45
rajazzabout xubuntu... i don't know really what is Xubuntu ???09:46
rajazzi gonna to read somethin' about in the www09:47
rajazzby bye and have a good time... :D09:47
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kikobeuno, ping?09:50
beunokiko: pong09:50
kikobeuno!09:50
beunokiko!09:50
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superm1is there an appropriate way to make translations accessible to a package on LP?10:38
kikoaccessible, superm1?10:38
superm1i've had someone contact me interested in helping with translations for mythtv, which we already have a debian/po directory10:38
superm1but i'm not sure how they get started10:39
superm1and our templates in debian/POTFILES.in10:39
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kikosuperm1, why don't you just upload templates for the upstream https://launchpad.net/mythtv ?10:44
superm1kiko, I wasn't sure about how we do it, i've never worked with templates before :)10:45
kikohttps://translations.beta.launchpad.net/mythtv/10:45
ubotuNew bug: #125125 in launchpad-answers "Text is right justified for this specific answer site" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12512510:45
superm1once they are there, do we just regularly grab them from that url?10:46
superm1to add back into the package?10:46
superm1or is debconf-updatepo smart enough to figure that out somehow?10:46
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kikosuperm1, what happens is that upstream translations are shared10:47
kikowith package translations10:47
kikoask danilo_ or carlos for more info :)10:47
superm1so its basically just thrown into a big pool then10:47
kikonot exactly10:47
kikobut they are shared through a few policies10:47
superm1common phrases10:47
kikothat I'm not 100% sure of :)10:48
superm1okay so once my po file is there though, how do i pull those updates into my updated debian package then?10:48
kikosuperm1, you'd basically need to download them and msgmerge them in.10:49
kikosuperm1, is your package in ubuntu?10:49
superm1kiko, yes10:49
superm1i regularly publish updates to it10:49
kikosuperm1, in universe?10:50
superm1kiko, multiverse10:50
kikogotcha10:50
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superm1so its a manual download and merge though10:50
kikoso yeah, I believe you can download or msgmerge right now10:50
kikounfortunately it's somewhat manual, though you can automate parts of it10:50
ubotuNew bug: #125126 in blueprint "Broken "register a blueprint" link on certain blueprint listing pages." [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12512610:51
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superm1well i'll submit the po later this evening when i get home then.10:52
superm1and go from there10:52
superm1what about software that isn't listed on launchpad.net/PACKAGE10:52
superm1but is just a package available in ubuntu10:52
superm1is there somewhere different to submit translations to?10:53
danilo_superm1: for those which are not in Ubuntu main, you usually go directly upstream (just like launchpad.net/PACKAGE is 'upstream' for others, so basically, you always go 'upstream')10:56
superm1so if i was to take a package in universe, say 'backstep', its not on launchpad.net/PACKAGE, or in debian upstream, so where would that go?10:58
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superm1danilo_, ^11:41
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