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thumper | kiko: morning | 12:43 |
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tristanbob | kiko: I am not a developer, but I wanted to register the project in launchpad to see what it has to offer | 12:45 |
tristanbob | the project is called ZipTie (www.ziptie.org) | 12:45 |
kiko | tristanbob: okay. would you like to set up CVS import of it? | 12:47 |
tristanbob | kiko: I would like to give it a try :) | 01:02 |
tristanbob | http://www.ziptie.org/source | 01:02 |
kiko | tristanbob: done: | 01:06 |
kiko | https://launchpad.net/ziptie/trunk | 01:06 |
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superm1 | hi guys, i saw bug 117829 - and i was curious about PPA, do I get access to it as a launchpad beta user, or is that a sep. beta program? | 01:12 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 117829 in soyuz "Allow PPA only for 'launchpad-beta-testers' members" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117829 - Assigned to Celso Providelo (cprov) | 01:12 |
Fujitsu | superm1: I think it's the normal beta group, but your best bet is to just try and see if it works. | 01:12 |
superm1 | Fujitsu, how do I access that part of launchpad? | 01:12 |
Fujitsu | superm1: You need to add a section in your dput.cf, to upload to incoming.dogfood.launchpad.net:~username/ubuntu | 01:12 |
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superm1 | Fujitsu, alright. i'll see later this evening then. and then i can just dput dcs's there | 01:12 |
superm1 | and have them show up at dogfood.launchpad.net i'd take it? | 01:12 |
kiko | superm1, or ping cprov tomorrow -- but yes | 01:12 |
Fujitsu | They show up in ppa.dogfood.launchpad.net | 01:12 |
superm1 | are there ppa buildd's then, or it goes into the same pool? | 01:12 |
superm1 | (as the normal buildds) | 01:12 |
Fujitsu | There are two Xen-based buildds dedicated to PPA. They're separate from the normal ones. | 01:12 |
superm1 | ah wonderful | 01:12 |
superm1 | they would likely be building much faster than my weak little thinkpad built stuff too:) | 01:12 |
Kmos | i'm at beta testing team and isn't today it switchs to beta ? | 01:12 |
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mpt | Gooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders! | 02:44 |
jml | mpt: It's an early afternoon | 02:44 |
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ubotu | New bug: #124984 in rosetta "Two different translations for the same language" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124984 | 05:25 |
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jamesh | spiv, thumper, BjornT: ping (reviewers meeting) | 08:00 |
thumper | jamesh: pong | 08:00 |
jamesh | unping BjornT since he is at EuroPython | 08:01 |
spiv | I'm here. | 08:01 |
BjornT | i'm partly here, though | 08:01 |
thumper | 3's a quorum I guess | 08:01 |
jamesh | == Agenda == | 08:02 |
jamesh | * Roll call | 08:02 |
jamesh | * Next meeting | 08:02 |
jamesh | * Queue status. | 08:02 |
jamesh | * Timely assignment of queue items | 08:02 |
jamesh | lifeless is at EuroPython, so is not here | 08:02 |
thumper | here | 08:03 |
jamesh | Is everyone happy for the same time next week for the next meeting? | 08:03 |
thumper | yeah | 08:03 |
lifeless | wish me luck, talk is in a few hours; thank y ou for the incremental diffs; bye | 08:03 |
thumper | lifeless: <- luck | 08:03 |
BjornT | i'll be sprinting next week | 08:04 |
jamesh | okay. So that's 17th July, 06:00 UTC | 08:04 |
jamesh | * Queue status. | 08:05 |
thumper | it's long | 08:05 |
jamesh | the queue looks huge and has a lot of red | 08:05 |
jamesh | I need to finish allocating the remaining reviews | 08:05 |
thumper | Due to the slow allocation, I picked off some yesterday | 08:05 |
jamesh | thumper: thank you | 08:05 |
thumper | I've done six over the past two days | 08:05 |
jamesh | as mentioned on the lists, I've implemented incremental diffs now, which should make it easier to allocate reviews fairly | 08:06 |
thumper | jamesh: thanks for that | 08:06 |
jamesh | and the "Reviewer workload" section should give a better indication of how much work each person has to do | 08:06 |
spiv | jamesh: as I said on the list, that sounds excellent. Thank you. | 08:07 |
jamesh | stub has 7 past-due branches in needs-review state | 08:08 |
jamesh | I guess they are not too urgent while the db is frozen though | 08:08 |
thumper | jamesh: for branches that are in stub's queue and general, it doesn't show properly | 08:08 |
thumper | there are about 20 branches in the DBA queue | 08:09 |
thumper | (I think) | 08:09 |
spiv | thumper: I count 13 needs-review in the DBA queue. | 08:09 |
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spiv | (hooray for "?highlight=%28needs-review%29"...) | 08:10 |
jamesh | thumper: well, if we assume the DBA queue is low priority during freeze and the branch is listed twice, we are more interested in the occurence in the general queue | 08:10 |
thumper | jamesh: but the DB isn't unfrozed for all that long | 08:11 |
thumper | ideally all the DBA branches should be reviewed and ready for landing prior to unfreezing | 08:11 |
thumper | I digress though | 08:11 |
jamesh | thumper: sure. We should check how stub is doing | 08:11 |
thumper | DBA reviews are another problem | 08:11 |
jamesh | BjornT: you have a branch that is 13 days old. Do you want to reject it for reassignment? | 08:12 |
jamesh | given you're at a conference? | 08:12 |
BjornT | jamesh: no, i can review it. it's a post-merge review that i've already reviewed once. | 08:13 |
jamesh | BjornT: okay. | 08:14 |
jamesh | * Timely assignment of queue items | 08:14 |
jamesh | I am allocating reviews while lifeless is away | 08:15 |
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thumper | hopefully the dependant branch stuff will help | 08:15 |
jamesh | I allocated part of the queue yesterday, and was working on finishing the intermediate diff feature before doing the rest | 08:15 |
thumper | jamesh: did flacoste's branches scare you off? | 08:15 |
jamesh | I'll do the rest after the meeting | 08:15 |
jamesh | thumper: trying to balance them scared me off | 08:15 |
thumper | :) | 08:16 |
jamesh | it is good that he is providing easy to review chunks for the feature though | 08:16 |
jamesh | * other business | 08:17 |
jamesh | does anyone else have anything to discuss? | 08:17 |
thumper | nope | 08:18 |
jamesh | okay. meeting over. | 08:18 |
thumper | thanks jamesh | 08:18 |
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carlos | morning | 10:21 |
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Hobbsee | morning carlos, seb128, sabdfl and everyone lese who just entered | 10:23 |
seb128 | hi Hobbsee | 10:24 |
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mrevell | Hobbsee: Hey, how are you getting on with edge? | 10:49 |
Hobbsee | mrevell: seems slow, but havent noticed anything different. maybe more options on l.n/ubuntu | 10:51 |
ubotu | New bug: #125008 in launchpad "Wrong status from kernel bug tracker fetched" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125008 | 10:51 |
mrevell | Hobbsee: Ah, I have to say I'm not finding it at all slow. | 10:52 |
mrevell | Hobbsee: Is there anything in particular that's running more slowly for you? | 10:52 |
Hobbsee | mrevell: well, remember, i am in australia | 10:52 |
Hobbsee | dunno. maybe i just perceieve it slower | 10:53 |
Hobbsee | it's only a couple of seconds slower, at worst | 10:53 |
Hobbsee | so, seeing as the average load time is 15+ seconds (last time i hcecked, it was down to 20 seconds), it's neither here nor there | 10:53 |
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ubotu | New bug: #125010 in launchpad-bazaar "HTTP GET and HEAD requests to http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~USER/PRODUCT/PERSON are very slow" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125010 | 11:00 |
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ubotu | New bug: #125016 in soyuz "Port ftpmaster-tools/archive-integrity-check.py to use LP standards" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125016 | 12:00 |
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ubotu | New bug: #125019 in soyuz "Port ftpmaster-tools/remove-package.py" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125019 | 12:26 |
ubotu | New bug: #125022 in soyuz "Port ftpmaster-tools/sync-source.py to use LP standards" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125022 | 12:31 |
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doko | lifeless: trying to convert a baz archive to bzr ... | 12:53 |
doko | it starts, then stops with: | 12:53 |
doko | $ bzr baz-import baz doko@ubuntu.com--2006-pkg-openofficeimporting doko@ubuntu.com--2006-pkg-openoffice/openofficeorg--ubuntu--2.1 into /home/packages/ooo/bzr/baz/openofficeorg/2.1/ubuntu | 12:54 |
doko | unable to access ancestor debian-openoffice@lists.debian.org--packages/openofficeorg--unstable--2.0.1--patch-36, making into a merge. | 12:54 |
doko | Cleaning up | 12:54 |
doko | Import complete. | 12:54 |
doko | importing doko@ubuntu.com--2006-pkg-openoffice/openofficeorg--ubuntu--2.2 into /home/packages/ooo/bzr/baz/openofficeorg/2.2/ubuntu | 12:54 |
doko | unable to access ancestor debian-openoffice@lists.debian.org--packages/openofficeorg--unstable--2.0.1--patch-36, making into a merge. | 12:54 |
doko | Cleaning up | 12:54 |
doko | bzr: ERROR: Working tree is out of date, please run 'bzr update'. | 12:54 |
kiko | morning | 12:54 |
doko | sucessful? | 12:54 |
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kiko | hey this edge redirect is pretty cool!! | 01:04 |
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RainCT | Hi | 01:18 |
kiko | hey | 01:19 |
kiko | mpt? | 01:19 |
RainCT | what's mpt? :s | 01:20 |
kiko | a person | 01:21 |
mpt | mpt is nobody important | 01:21 |
kiko | mpt! | 01:21 |
RainCT | ah ok :P | 01:21 |
kiko | mpt, you know aaron schwartz right? | 01:21 |
kiko | swartz sorry | 01:21 |
mpt | We're virtual aquaintances, yes | 01:22 |
kiko | mpt, can you ask him about https://launchpad.net/aaronsw ? | 01:22 |
kiko | maybe he was meaning to use staging. | 01:22 |
RainCT | the Edge server is pretty unstable :/ | 01:22 |
mpt | kiko, or maybe he assumed things were deletable | 01:22 |
RainCT | loading 2 pages it said 5 times that the server is not answering lol | 01:23 |
mpt | kiko, I'll mail him. | 01:23 |
kiko | thanks | 01:23 |
kiko | RainCT, which pages? | 01:23 |
RainCT | kiko: login and editing a bug | 01:23 |
kiko | I'm using it with no problems | 01:24 |
kiko | maybe you've for intarnet problems? | 01:24 |
RainCT | seems to work now | 01:27 |
RainCT | may be, but I don't think so since I was opening also other pages and they worked | 01:27 |
kiko | BjornT, barry: ping | 01:32 |
barry | kiko: pong | 01:32 |
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kiko | barry, the review queue is looking pretty gnarly. do you have time for a few today? | 01:33 |
barry | kiko: sure | 01:33 |
kiko | I'll do a few today too. | 01:34 |
barry | kiko: do you have some time later today to talk about some xmlrpc stuff? | 01:35 |
kiko | barry, I might, but it will be a long day for me | 01:35 |
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gnomefreak | why does my bug links have bugs.edge.launchpad? | 01:52 |
gnomefreak | the .edge. being the part that confused me | 01:52 |
gnomefreak | is that the testing release of LP like beta was used? | 01:53 |
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RainCT | on question, if a team is set as bug contact for a product, do all members of it receive a mail when a bug is reported or is it only send to the team mail? | 02:00 |
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kiko | gnomefreak, yes | 02:11 |
gnomefreak | ty | 02:12 |
kiko | RainCT, if there's a team email address then only that will be used | 02:12 |
RainCT | ok thanks | 02:12 |
kiko | gnomefreak, read more about this on the launchpad users list | 02:12 |
gnomefreak | kiko: ok will do ty | 02:12 |
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BjornT | kiko: pong | 02:38 |
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kiko | BjornT, how are you looking to do some reviews today? I know you're EPing.. | 02:45 |
BjornT | kiko: i'll see if i find time to do some small ones. | 02:47 |
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kiko | thanks BjornT | 02:53 |
lifeless | doko: not successful no. Also, #bzr! | 03:00 |
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brmassa | guys, i just created a project on Launchpad. now i need to import all my files on it. how i do this? | 03:16 |
brmassa | i went to "register a branch" but it needs "Branch URL", which i dont know what means... | 03:17 |
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brmassa | jamesh, bac, beuno, carlos, fernando1? | 03:25 |
kiko | brmassa, what do you mean by import all my files? | 03:25 |
kiko | brmassa, do you have a subversion or CVS repository? or do you want to use bzr? | 03:25 |
brmassa | kiko, thanks! well... my new project is only on my computer. im not using yet any vcs... | 03:26 |
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brmassa | i want to use bazaar+launchpad. | 03:27 |
brmassa | im familiar with | 03:27 |
brmassa | CVS | 03:27 |
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kiko | brmassa, okay. here's some help: | 03:27 |
brmassa | i have the latest bazaar here. 0.17 | 03:28 |
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brmassa | i know how to locally version my files but i dont have a clue how to integrate with external repositories. how to export the files to launchpad specially. | 03:29 |
kiko | one sec. | 03:29 |
brmassa | yep | 03:29 |
kiko | https://help.launchpad.net/BazaarLinks | 03:30 |
kiko | http://ddaa.net/blog/launchpad/bzr-hosting | 03:30 |
ddaa | meh? | 03:30 |
ddaa | isn't there anything more recent and maintained? | 03:30 |
matsubara | I think the help tab in https://code.launchpad.net/ is better for what brmassa wants | 03:31 |
ddaa | or that: During our last meeting in London, I made a point that a killer feature | 03:31 |
ddaa | for bzr was "good brainless two-way interoperation with svn". And I | 03:31 |
ddaa | mean killer feature as in "wake up one day and find out we have taken | 03:31 |
ddaa | over the world". | 03:31 |
ddaa | oops | 03:31 |
ddaa | or that: https://help.launchpad.net/FeatureHighlights/EasyBranching | 03:32 |
brmassa | jezz!! thanks kiko. matsubara, i went there and i didnt find anything i needed. | 03:32 |
kiko | cool | 03:32 |
matsubara | well, the help tab seems to explain how to push a branch to LP, but I might have misunderstood what you need... | 03:34 |
brmassa | matsubara, well... all launchpad is so big and connected that its confusing. maybe you are right. im gonna look all these pages. thanks all | 03:38 |
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ubotu | New bug: #125042 in launchpad "Race condition in team invite form leads to OOPS" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125042 | 03:50 |
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theuni | Is any admin online who can help me removing a broken branch directory from lp? | 04:42 |
lifeless | not so easily :) | 04:42 |
theuni | :/ | 04:42 |
lifeless | we don't really support deletion of branches as such; what is wrong though - is it a bad branch, or you just want to be able to push clean again? | 04:42 |
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ubotu | New bug: #125050 in launchpad "It didn't get my registration correct" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125050 | 05:00 |
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ubotu | New bug: #125068 in malone "Bugzilla bug watch updater crashes on POSTs that return a HTTP error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125068 | 06:31 |
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tsmithe | hi. i've noticed that more and more people have PPAs these days, so i went to dogfood. to check it out, and activated mine (i think it would be useful for testing my packages, and maybe the ubuntustudio-dev team could go on to use one). however, i'm stuck as to where to upload to | 08:52 |
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kiko | tsmithe, ask cprov! :) | 09:01 |
tsmithe | cprov, hi! | 09:02 |
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kiko | but many people here should know too | 09:02 |
kiko | Fujitsu and crimsun for instance | 09:02 |
tsmithe | cool, thanks :) i'm not in a hurry :) | 09:03 |
kiko | Gwaihir, do you have a PPA? | 09:03 |
Gwaihir | PPA? sorry... don't know what you mean... | 09:04 |
Gwaihir | :( | 09:04 |
ubotu | New bug: #125103 in soyuz "ppa archives are not signed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125103 | 09:05 |
Gwaihir | not that I know... | 09:10 |
ubotu | New bug: #125104 in soyuz "build listing contains architectures other than i386 and amd64" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125104 | 09:10 |
cprov | tsmithe: hi | 09:13 |
tsmithe | how do i upload to my PPA? | 09:13 |
kiko | tsmithe, siretart too | 09:13 |
tsmithe | (what directory? fqdn = ppa.dogfood.net? user = tsmithe [for eg] ) | 09:14 |
superm1 | cprov, what user / pw are you supposed to be using to use ppa? I had just put in the first part of my LP login, and junk for a password | 09:17 |
superm1 | and it appeared dput let me push it | 09:17 |
tsmithe | dput will push it, but LP will most likely reject it | 09:17 |
superm1 | it got rejected, but that aws a different reason | 09:17 |
superm1 | i had UNRELEASED in the changelog | 09:17 |
cprov | tsmithe: superm1: ~/dput.rc | 09:17 |
cprov | [my-ppa] | 09:17 |
cprov | fqdn = upload.dogfood.launchpad.net | 09:17 |
cprov | incoming = ~<LP_NAME>/ubuntu/ | 09:17 |
cprov | login = anonymous | 09:17 |
superm1 | rather than gutsy | 09:17 |
superm1 | there we go. great :) | 09:18 |
superm1 | are there team ppa's to? | 09:18 |
superm1 | *too | 09:18 |
tsmithe | cprov, aaah thanks | 09:18 |
cprov | superm1: yes, use the team '~<LPNAME>' | 09:19 |
superm1 | ooh even better. in the end, do these show up on as a apt-get'able repo, or just as debs in a folder on dogfood? | 09:20 |
kiko | superm1, the latter | 09:20 |
superm1 | at least wget'able then to place on a diff repo then | 09:21 |
superm1 | where is the url they will show up? | 09:21 |
kiko | https://dogfood.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas | 09:22 |
kiko | superm1, look at that page. | 09:22 |
superm1 | heyo, thats pretty sweet | 09:22 |
superm1 | so the intended use for ppas is to provide builds prior to pushing through the normal buildds (as a pbuilder/sbuild alternative), or for revus and such too? | 09:24 |
siretart | kiko: sorry? | 09:24 |
kiko | superm1, the latter. | 09:24 |
superm1 | ah so this will eventually be replacing revu.tauware.de? | 09:25 |
siretart | superm1: rather complement | 09:25 |
kiko | complement, correct. | 09:25 |
superm1 | siretart, so the process will eventually move to uploading to both? | 09:25 |
jkakar | I seem to keep getting redirected to edge.launchpad.net... is that expected? Do changes made on edge affect production data? | 09:26 |
siretart | superm1: I'd rather see REVU using ppas as package backend. eventually, you submit the url to a source package to revu, instead of uploading a sourc epackage | 09:26 |
jkakar | I seem to keep getting redirected to edge.launchpad.net... is that expected? Do changes made on edge affect production data? | 09:26 |
jkakar | Oops. :) | 09:26 |
superm1 | siretart, and that would improve revu's ability to run linda/lintian on binary files too. i see | 09:26 |
superm1 | siretart, how far out is that? | 09:26 |
siretart | superm1: not started. | 09:27 |
Kmos | jkakar: yes.. at http://launchpad.net you can remove the beta for a time | 09:27 |
jkakar | Kmos: Ah, thanks. | 09:28 |
superm1 | i don't think i read that right, so changes will be affecting production data too? | 09:28 |
superm1 | or no | 09:28 |
Kmos | superm1: for edge! | 09:28 |
kiko | jkakar, yes, edge is production, and it's expected -- read launchpad-users. | 09:29 |
jkakar | kiko: Cool will do, thanks. | 09:29 |
siretart | kiko: can you sync the group membership data from production to dogfood? | 09:30 |
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cprov | siretart: not easily, but I can add membership per-request | 09:31 |
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siretart | cprov: oh, then leave it, its then not worth the efford | 09:33 |
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rajazz | hello!!! | 09:35 |
rajazz | i want to register, anyone knows the service?? | 09:35 |
siretart | rajazz: on the upper right, there is a link for login/register | 09:35 |
rajazz | where do i register with /msj xxxxxx REGISTER xxxxxxxx | 09:36 |
rajazz | siretart: thanks | 09:36 |
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rajazz | siretart: i registered with the folloewin': /msg NickServ REGISTER [passwrd] :D | 09:38 |
rajazz | thanks :D | 09:38 |
rajazz | there is a difference with other servers... like OFTC | 09:39 |
rajazz | i need shippin' CDs to me, cause i'm installin' some SO in Argentina... | 09:44 |
rajazz | a friend show me ubuntu... that's great | 09:45 |
rajazz | but i have a a stupid question... :-/ | 09:45 |
rajazz | about xubuntu... i don't know really what is Xubuntu ??? | 09:46 |
rajazz | i gonna to read somethin' about in the www | 09:47 |
rajazz | by bye and have a good time... :D | 09:47 |
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kiko | beuno, ping? | 09:50 |
beuno | kiko: pong | 09:50 |
kiko | beuno! | 09:50 |
beuno | kiko! | 09:50 |
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superm1 | is there an appropriate way to make translations accessible to a package on LP? | 10:38 |
kiko | accessible, superm1? | 10:38 |
superm1 | i've had someone contact me interested in helping with translations for mythtv, which we already have a debian/po directory | 10:38 |
superm1 | but i'm not sure how they get started | 10:39 |
superm1 | and our templates in debian/POTFILES.in | 10:39 |
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kiko | superm1, why don't you just upload templates for the upstream https://launchpad.net/mythtv ? | 10:44 |
superm1 | kiko, I wasn't sure about how we do it, i've never worked with templates before :) | 10:45 |
kiko | https://translations.beta.launchpad.net/mythtv/ | 10:45 |
ubotu | New bug: #125125 in launchpad-answers "Text is right justified for this specific answer site" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125125 | 10:45 |
superm1 | once they are there, do we just regularly grab them from that url? | 10:46 |
superm1 | to add back into the package? | 10:46 |
superm1 | or is debconf-updatepo smart enough to figure that out somehow? | 10:46 |
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kiko | superm1, what happens is that upstream translations are shared | 10:47 |
kiko | with package translations | 10:47 |
kiko | ask danilo_ or carlos for more info :) | 10:47 |
superm1 | so its basically just thrown into a big pool then | 10:47 |
kiko | not exactly | 10:47 |
kiko | but they are shared through a few policies | 10:47 |
superm1 | common phrases | 10:47 |
kiko | that I'm not 100% sure of :) | 10:48 |
superm1 | okay so once my po file is there though, how do i pull those updates into my updated debian package then? | 10:48 |
kiko | superm1, you'd basically need to download them and msgmerge them in. | 10:49 |
kiko | superm1, is your package in ubuntu? | 10:49 |
superm1 | kiko, yes | 10:49 |
superm1 | i regularly publish updates to it | 10:49 |
kiko | superm1, in universe? | 10:50 |
superm1 | kiko, multiverse | 10:50 |
kiko | gotcha | 10:50 |
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superm1 | so its a manual download and merge though | 10:50 |
kiko | so yeah, I believe you can download or msgmerge right now | 10:50 |
kiko | unfortunately it's somewhat manual, though you can automate parts of it | 10:50 |
ubotu | New bug: #125126 in blueprint "Broken "register a blueprint" link on certain blueprint listing pages." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125126 | 10:51 |
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superm1 | well i'll submit the po later this evening when i get home then. | 10:52 |
superm1 | and go from there | 10:52 |
superm1 | what about software that isn't listed on launchpad.net/PACKAGE | 10:52 |
superm1 | but is just a package available in ubuntu | 10:52 |
superm1 | is there somewhere different to submit translations to? | 10:53 |
danilo_ | superm1: for those which are not in Ubuntu main, you usually go directly upstream (just like launchpad.net/PACKAGE is 'upstream' for others, so basically, you always go 'upstream') | 10:56 |
superm1 | so if i was to take a package in universe, say 'backstep', its not on launchpad.net/PACKAGE, or in debian upstream, so where would that go? | 10:58 |
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superm1 | danilo_, ^ | 11:41 |
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