[12:28] <neoncode> eagles0513875: New version?
[12:29] <eagles0513875> lol
[12:29] <neoncode> Oh and is there any huge danger in dual-booting Fiesty and Gusty, and shareing the same home partion accross them both?
[12:29] <eagles0513875> clustering version
[12:29] <eagles0513875> not sure whether we goign to give it a new name and use kubuntu as the base for it
[12:29] <eagles0513875> or just keep the kubuntu name
[12:30] <PriceChild> you can't keep the kubuntu name because of the new trademark policies
[12:30] <eagles0513875> dude
[12:30] <neoncode> eagles0513875: Ahh, Wouldn't just keeping the kubuntu name confuse people?
[12:30] <eagles0513875> lol
[12:30] <PriceChild> it would have to be officially recognised/approved by the CC etc.
[12:30] <Tretle> klubuntu :)
[12:30] <eagles0513875> not really cuz it would be called kubuntu kluster edition if we decide to keep it like another version of kubuntu
[12:30] <eagles0513875> lol
[12:31] <eagles0513875> like there is ubuntustudio
[12:31] <PriceChild> you _can't_ use kubuntu in the name
[12:31] <neoncode> lol, "kluster"?
[12:31] <eagles0513875> lol
[12:31] <PriceChild> ubuntustudio has been allowed to use the ubuntu trademark
[12:31] <pvandewyngaerde> utnubuk
[12:31] <eagles0513875> ok
[12:31] <eagles0513875> so we can use kubuntu as the base but change the name
[12:31] <neoncode> eagles0513875: Make it first, name it later.
[12:31] <eagles0513875> lol ok
[12:31] <PriceChild> there's already an utnubu project...
[12:31] <neoncode> lol
[12:31] <eagles0513875> utnubu?
[12:32] <pvandewyngaerde> backwards
[12:32] <PriceChild> for merging ubuntu changes backwards into debian
[12:32] <eagles0513875> ahhh
[12:32] <eagles0513875> i would like to uses kubuntu as a stable base
[12:32] <neoncode> THere seems to be a lot of diffrent distros made off of ubuntu...
[12:33] <eagles0513875> only reason that is cuz the distro is the best out there
[12:34] <mrsno> neoncode there is a history chart of all the distros + forks, its quite nice viewing
[12:34] <neoncode> Oh yea, I've seen that. Debian is one of the oldest distros isn't it...
[12:34] <SeveredCross> Yep.
[12:35] <SeveredCross> Debian is one of the oldest.
[12:35] <SeveredCross> And one of the most forked.
[12:35] <SeveredCross> Because it's been a solid distribution from the start.
[12:35] <neoncode> Nice to know the Ubuntu has lots of stable code in there. Inherited from debian I mean.
[12:38] <astinus> neoncode: It's not the base, it's what you do with it. Quite a bit gets changed by Ubuntu.
[12:39] <neoncode> heh true
[12:41] <astinus> There are already distributions out there kitted up for clustering, I'm not sure what eagles0513875 hopes to achieve.  What's going to be new about Kubuntu Kluster Edition (name obv. to be changed); why not just use straight Ubuntu, most clusters don't have GUIs? ;)
[12:42] <astinus> Or at least, most clusters don't need KDE installed on *all* the nodes, and visualization is usually abstracted from the actual processing nodes.
[12:45] <neoncode> netsplit?
[01:17] <SeveredCross> Any issues reported with Serpentine?
[02:49] <DanaG> Odd, if I use dnsmasq on localhost, some dns queries take a ridiculously long time to process.
[03:19] <jack|ass> What linux kernel is gutsy gonna use?
[03:19] <crimsun> 2.6.22.
[03:19] <RAOF> 2.6.22, I believe
[03:19] <RAOF> Hey crimsun :)
[03:19] <jack|ass> Does Tribe 2 use it yet?
[03:19] <crimsun> it uses 22rc
[03:19] <crimsun> think about it.
[03:19] <crimsun> Tribe 2 released long before yesterday.  2.6.22 was released yesterday.  Unless Ben et al. had a crazy time machine, there's no way Tribe 2 could have shipped with 2.6.22.
[03:19] <jack|ass> crimsun: I was including pre-official release versions.
[03:19] <jack|ass> hmm... if I can find a spare hard drive, i might give that a go on my laptop.  See if my wireless card sucks less.
[03:19] <RAOF> jack|ass: Well, it that case gutsy has been using .22 for months :)
[03:19] <jack|ass> RAOF: Beta is just a friend you haven't met yet!  ...Who may stab you in the face at a moments notice.
[03:19] <ffm> when will gutsy be ready?
[03:23] <ffm> (ready for everyday use)
[03:23] <ffm> before release.
[03:23] <ffm> Or is it coded until the final releace date?
[03:31] <RAOF> It'll be ready on the release date, in October.  Anything before that is testing
[03:45] <mrsno> nn
[04:12] <Jordan_U> What is the advantage of having a secure connection to repositories when you already have signed packages?
[04:19] <david__> Anyone just having problems with Firefox. I have been running Gutsy for a while now without major issues until recently. Firefox crashes and is very unstable. Any suggestions?
[04:24] <david__> Anyone else having this issue: ***MEMORY-WARNING***: firefox-bin[10869] : GSlice: g_thread_init() must be called before all other GLib functions; memory corruption due to late invocation of g_thread_init() has been detected; this program is likely to crash, leak or unexpectedly abort soon...
[04:25] <Tretle> yeah, its a common bug
[04:25] <Tretle> happens with a load of different apps
[04:26] <david__> Just started happening for me though...
[04:26] <david__> I had pretty much no issues until a recent update
[04:26] <david__> Any way around this bug? Suggestions??
[04:27] <Tretle> its being worked on
[04:28] <Tretle> its not critical though, according to the people on bugzilla
[04:28] <david__> Do you have a link?
[04:37] <Tretle> look up glib bug in gutsy
[04:39] <david__> Cool thanks!
[04:42] <david__> As info... This bug has been upgraded to "High". Thanks again!!
[04:57] <RoC_MasterMind> do we have pidgin?
[04:57] <Jordan_U> RoC_MasterMind, Yes
[05:18] <vinny> hi, anyone have an opinion on wine in gusty? is it worth attempting?
[05:18] <RAOF> It's trivially easy
[05:18] <vinny> awsome
[05:18] <RAOF> apt-get install wine :)
[05:18] <vinny> ok one more question
[05:19] <vinny> my xmodmap doesnt seem to work
[05:19] <vinny> im trying to map keycode 115 to pointer button 3
[05:19] <vinny> but it does nothin#ubuntug
[05:19] <vinny> nothign
[05:19] <vinny> i have a laptop with no right click
[05:20] <vinny> im using f12
[05:20] <RAOF> Hm, I'm not familiar with xmodmap.  I just load the dvorak keymap :)
[05:20] <vinny> i dont like it much, but nothing i do seems to help
[05:20] <vinny> dvorak is totally different to qwerty isnt it
[05:20] <RAOF> vinny: With a synaptics touchpad?  You should be able to triple-finger-tap to get a right click
[05:21] <vinny> ah
[05:21] <vinny> awsome
[05:21] <vinny> thanks
[05:21] <vinny> :P
[05:21] <RAOF> :)
[05:21] <RAOF> I only recently found that out, too :)
[05:22] <vinny> im surprised it works
[05:22] <vinny> i have two finger scrolling enabled
[05:24] <vinny> one thing i keep doing is dragging my titlebars under the gnome menubar, forcing me to quit them to move them
[05:25] <vinny> prolly a compiz-fusion issue, im using third party repo
[05:27] <vinny> lol connection refused from nz.archive.ubuntu.com
[05:37] <Jordan_U> RAOF, Nice, that is working with Gutsy?
[05:37] <RAOF> Yes
[05:38] <vinny_> can someone check nz.archive.ubuntu.com
[05:38] <vinny_> ping it
[05:38] <Jordan_U> RAOF, Wasn't for me a few days ago, I'll try again
[05:38] <vinny_> telnet on 80
[05:38] <RAOF> Oh.  I suppose it might not be working in Feisty :)
[05:38] <vinny_> plz
[05:38] <Jordan_U> RAOF, No, it works in Feisty
[05:40] <RAOF> vinny: Why not just try another mirror?
[07:47] <DanaG> and the multi-finger tapping.
[07:47] <DanaG> Eat that, Apple.  I got those features for free!
[07:48] <DanaG> And I still have TWOOOOOooooo mouse buttons -- so I can do left + right == middle.
[07:48] <DanaG> Left + Right (which is option-left) is impossible.
[07:48] <DanaG> On apple, I mean.
[07:50] <Jordan_U> DanaG, But in OSx I have two fingered scrolling :)
[07:50] <DanaG> Same in Linux.
[07:51] <Jordan_U> DanaG, But it's not set up by default
[07:51] <DanaG> Alps cannot detect multiple fingers.  Period.
[07:52] <RAOF> Jordan_U: It is in gutsy.  At least, I didn't set it up
[07:53] <DanaG> Oh, one annoying default: corner taps.
[07:54] <Jordan_U> RAOF, Nice :)
[07:54] <DanaG> I also love the font rendering -- even in Feisty.
[07:54] <DanaG> Subjectively, I think Cleartype seems sucky, in comparison.
[07:55] <DanaG> I use subpixel hinting -- wonderful for me.
[07:56] <DanaG> There definitely IS a subjective component to what's best.
[07:56] <DanaG> Actually, it's _mostly_ subjective.
[07:57] <RAOF> Subpixel rendering, but unhinted
[07:58] <Jordan_U> Is the font in Gutsy supposed to be smaller or is that a bug?
[07:59] <Jordan_U> I actually like it, but I am not sure about it being default
[07:59] <RAOF> The font rendering in Gutsy now actually uses the right DPI setting :)
[07:59] <Jordan_U> RAOF, Ahh, got it :)
[08:04] <DanaG> I learned in Edgy to set the DPI correctly.
[08:04] <DanaG> Wait, how does unhinted subpixel work?
[08:04] <DanaG> That seems like an oxymoron to me.
[08:05] <RAOF> DanaG: Hinting makes the fonts snap to the pixel grid, IIRC
[08:05] <Jordan_U> Hinting gives suggestions on how to modify the form depending on font size
[08:06] <DanaG> I thought hinting was the subpixel rendering itself......
[08:06] <DanaG> The antialiasing part, at least.
[08:07] <RAOF> So unhinted subpixel means that they get rendered with 3 times the horizontal resolution, but aren't snapped to the pixel grid at all
[08:11] <starz> ok
[08:11] <starz> does gutsy have some sort of firewall in by default?
[08:11] <starz> i got pure-ftpd in and i had some problems and now it wont reconnect
[08:11] <Karark> IP tables
[08:12] <starz> thats it ?
[08:12] <Karark> firestarter?
[08:12] <Karark> i think, maybe, dunno
[08:12] <starz> gah no changes in that..
[08:12] <starz> no
[08:12] <DanaG> I'm still not understanding clearly -- snapped to pixel grid?
[08:12] <DanaG> Perhaps I just have to try it and see for myself.
[08:12] <starz> gah
[08:13] <Hobbsee> starz: IPtables, of which you can install firestarter as a frontend to it, if you wish
[08:13] <starz> well any clue on how to get pure-ftpd to not block local ips?
[08:13] <starz> Hobbsee the idea is to get it off =/
[08:14] <starz> crap
[08:15] <starz> i take it dpkg is broken now
[08:16] <starz> or it could be my own stupidity again >.>
[08:20] <Hobbsee> dpkg was never broken.
[08:20] <Hobbsee> dunno what you've done to it, though
[08:20] <Hobbsee> apt is fixed
[08:21] <starz> no its me
[08:21] <starz> and i've fuxxored something up for sure
[08:21] <starz> i put in pure-ftpd
[08:21] <starz> and then i had a mishap while transferring files back and forth
[08:21] <starz> from a local 192.168.x.xxx ip
[08:21] <starz> and now it wont allow connections from this ip to the ftpd
[08:21] <starz> even tried putting in proftpd
[08:22] <starz> so there's got to be SOMETHING somewhere blocking me
[08:22] <starz> but ive no clue what and where.
[08:22] <starz> ideas???
[08:22] <starz> and btw
[08:22] <starz> never
[08:22] <starz> ever
[08:22] <starz> eve
[08:22] <starz> r
[08:22] <starz> watch hard candy
[08:22] <starz> friggan sick
[08:22] <starz> gah
[08:22] <starz> the only thing i can think of is to give this local compy a different ip
[08:23] <starz> doesnt matter about the pure-ftpd
[08:23] <starz> proftpd does the same
[08:25] <Hobbsee> doesnt mean i know anything about that either
[08:25] <starz> gah
[08:25] <starz> your not getting it
[08:25] <starz> its not the ftpd
[08:25] <starz> its something somewhere because this ip connected so many times that is denbying this connection on that port
[08:25] <starz> or could it be on the router......
[08:25] <starz> gah
[08:29] <MugginsM> if the ftpd is running from inetd it could be inetd that's blocking it
[08:29] <wfarr> http://www.cypherbios.org/blog/?p=41&language=en
[08:29] <MugginsM> it has flood protection
[08:29] <MugginsM> oh, he went
[08:29] <wfarr> I really hope that comes through in Gutsy
[08:29] <wfarr> it'll be far, far better than walking people through a GUI
[08:30] <MugginsM> nice. could be a bit dangerous though
[08:31] <wfarr> could be
[08:31] <MugginsM> make it too easy to install stuff and we'll end up animated cursors and screensaver spam senders ;)
[08:31] <MugginsM> but nice idea
[08:31] <wfarr> spam senders would have to be written for Linux first ;)
[08:31] <wfarr> not to mention
[08:31] <wfarr> apparently
[08:31] <wfarr> that only works for packages in repositories in sources.list
[08:31] <wfarr> so it's a null point anyhoo
[08:32] <MugginsM> ah, hrm, that's good then
[08:32] <wfarr> yeeeep
[08:33] <MugginsM> would work well as links in the online help
[09:00] <chand|> hi
[09:01] <chand|> i get trouble with network
[09:10] <pimp31415> gah
[09:10] <pimp31415> ok
[09:10] <pimp31415> lets track down this ip block thing
[09:31] <pimp31415> gah sorry about that
[09:31] <pimp31415> anyway on left click internet and on right click on any of hte things in there
[09:31] <pimp31415> then press new menu item
[09:31] <pimp31415> and browse to it
[09:32] <pimp31415> sorry i forgot which nick was asking about azureus but whoever that was gah
[09:35] <chand|> someone with network trouble on boot ?
[09:35] <chand|> i must restart networking service to get address
[09:47] <pimp31415> chand|, did inet disconnect at some point in the process?
[09:48] <chand|> pimp31415: i dont know, i find similar problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=494035
[09:48] <chand|> pimp31415: i will check logs
[10:39] <tolonuga> Hi. can anyone do me a favor? I wonder if only my system is somehow broken: I plugin some usb device, and lsusb lists it. but /proc/bus/usb/002/016 does not exist - while /proc/bus/usb/.usbfs/002/016 does. is anyone else seeing problems like this?
[12:16] <MacSlow> Greetings everybody!
[01:17] <Frogzoo> has gutsy fixed gnome-terminal's control character handling?
[01:19] <Frogzoo> !info gnome-terminal
[01:19] <ubotu> gnome-terminal: The GNOME 2 terminal emulator application. In component main, is optional. Version 2.18.1-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 185 kB, installed size 432 kB
[01:25] <SeveredCross> I think apt issues are solved, but libcurl* are not
[01:38] <gnomefreak> curl is gonna have issue for a bit longer
[01:46] <chand|> i always have an issue with network on boot
[01:47] <gnomefreak> chand|: as in it doesnt connect you have to disable than enable networking in network-manager?
[01:48] <chand|> gnomefreak: yes, but in my case i restart networking service
[01:48] <gnomefreak> chand|: its being worked on atm
[01:48] <chand|> gnomefreak: is there a bug open ?
[01:48] <gnomefreak> yes give me a moment and ill get you link
[01:48] <chand|> gnomefreak: thx
[01:49] <gnomefreak> chand|: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/124297
[01:50] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 124297 in network-manager "network-manager doesnt connect me at startup anymore" [Undecided,Confirmed] 
[01:50] <gnomefreak> hmmmm edge?
[01:50] <gnomefreak> bug 124297
[01:51] <gnomefreak> chand|: https://launchpad.net/bugs/124297
[01:51] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 124297 in network-manager "network-manager doesnt connect me at startup anymore" [Undecided,Confirmed] 
[01:51] <gnomefreak> thats the right link
[01:52] <chand|> ok thx
[01:53] <Jordan_U> I assume that gstreamer is setup in gutsy not to use video overlay with compiz fusion, correct?
[01:54] <gnomefreak> Jordan_U: not sure i try no tto do to much with compiz anymore, i got hands full on other projects :(
[01:55] <Jordan_U> gnomefreak, Does video play with Compiz Fusion enabled? ( I have a GPU that requires fglrx so I can't try it )
[01:55] <RAOF> Jordan_U: Yes, but not with some drivers
[01:56] <gnomefreak> Jordan_U: dont know i cant use compiz and build packages :( when i am able to i might go back to it
[01:56] <RAOF> Jordan_U: It does use Xv by default
[01:57] <RAOF> I should really check out writing a compiz videosink
[01:57] <Jordan_U> RAOF, Not with some drivers? It should use no-xv AFIK
[01:58] <RAOF> Jordan_U: Well, I think ati and intel don't like Xv+compiz.  nVidia is quite happy with it,
[01:58] <RAOF> Aaak, why is acx refusing to load.  And why can't it give a more useful error than "invalid parameters"
[01:59] <Jordan_U> RAOF, They don't like xv because that uses video overlay, I can't see any way that video overlay would work with things like lighting and wobbly windows
[02:01] <Jordan_U> RAOF, Nvidia must just disable video overlay in their drivers when it notices texture_from_pixmap being used or something, or else I am just completely misunderstanding the problem entirely
[02:02] <RAOF> Jordan_U: Well, it works in Xgl, and with nvidia.  I think because they use textures for Xv anway
[02:04] <gnomefreak> RAOF: the radeon cards use what driver?
[02:04] <gnomefreak> x1400 radeon
[02:04] <RAOF> fglrx
[02:04] <gnomefreak> ah ok ty
[02:04] <RAOF> Which is now only a year or so behind the nvidia driver :)
[02:12] <SeveredCross> Er, I've gotten Beryl working with FGLRX.
[02:12] <SeveredCross> But only through Xgl, not via the Composite extension
[02:12] <RAOF> Yeah.  Because Xgl provides composite through GL.
[02:13] <SeveredCross> Which really sux.
[02:13] <SeveredCross> I wish AMD would stop waffling and release the damn drivers in open source.
[02:13] <SeveredCross> Because fglrx is a good driver for ATI cards, but it would be much better if it was open-source.
[02:13] <mrsno> amd have commited to it
[02:13] <RAOF> Although the new fglrx drivers now have (apparently) really buggy composite+glx support
[02:13] <SeveredCross> Have they?
[02:13] <mrsno> unlike nvidia :I
[02:13] <SeveredCross> I missed that release.
[02:13] <SeveredCross> *press release.
[02:13] <SeveredCross> Oh, they do?
[02:14] <RAOF> You must be thinking of a different fglrx :P
[02:15] <SeveredCross> Hmm, maybe I'll build it once Synaptic finishes.
[02:15] <SeveredCross> (Just removed almost 200 packages I don't need, around 1 GB wiped out)
[02:16] <SeveredCross> Jeez, still 1400 packages installled
[02:17] <SeveredCross> s/installled/installed
[02:18] <SeveredCross> Woot!
[02:18] <SeveredCross> They have a buildpkg for Gutsy on the newest fglrx.
[02:34] <lamalex> RAOF: do you have a source on that composite support?
[02:40] <RAOF_> lamalex: The compiz mailing list, where people are trying to shove copy-mode-rendering support in
[02:41] <RAOF_> I don't suppose anyone's using acx111 cards, and have them work?
[02:47] <chand|> when i enable compiz and using nvidia drivers, if i try to switch user i can't come back to first user
[02:47] <chand|> i get a black screen, need to kill X
[02:48] <RAOF_> Yup, that's the nvidia drivers alright
[02:49] <RAOF_> You can work around that problem using Xgl, but don't hold your breath for nvidia to actually fix it.
[02:50] <lamalex> and using XGL is a host of new problems
[02:59] <chand|> i'll hope in the nouveau project
[03:00] <chand|> for nvidia based card
[03:01] <mrsno> chand| they were requesting video "dumps" for the nouveau project recently, if you would like to assist
[03:02] <RAOF_> Yeah.  Nouveau kinda works for me (on my 7600go)
[03:03] <RAOF_> And when I say "kinda" I really mean "X starts, and glxgears runs unless you push it too hard".  They always want dumps :)
[03:06] <mrsno> :] 
[03:12] <lamalex> man when is gnash going to get updated
[03:12] <cy_`> hello
[03:12] <cy_`> is there a package for the latest nvidia binary driver (100.14.11) ?
[03:12] <lamalex> those updates have been sitting there held back for a while
[03:15] <RAOF_> cy_`: bug 120943
[03:15] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 120943 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 "Update nvidia-glx-new pacakge to 100.14.11" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120943
[03:17] <cy_`> RAOF_, very nice.. but since it affects alot of new notebooks (like my t61 too).. i dont see why its on the wishlist.. it is kinda important.. isn't it?
[03:21] <RAOF_> cy_`: Nah, it's really wishlist material.  The lack of it doesn't break your system.  I fully expect that bug to be closed before release; apart from that, it's all groovey!
[03:22] <cy_`> RAOF_, well.. it breaks my system anytime i need to do a kernel upgrade .. then i again need to install the binary driver by hand :/
[03:22] <RAOF_> cy_`: Or you could use the nv or vesa drivers :P
[03:23] <lamalex> yah, thats  what you get for using proprietary software
[03:23] <RAOF_> But yes.  It is annoying
[03:23] <cy_`> RAOF_, niiiaw :/
[03:24] <RAOF_> cy_`: Or, try nouveau.  But that's even less supported than the binary nvidia blob :)
[03:24] <cy_`> ya i know
[03:24] <cy_`> the status of this package is deciding the fate of a very big computer reseller to roll-out/support ubuntu..
[03:24] <RAOF_> Note: I'm not serious here!
[03:24] <cy_`> i am on the other hand, am serious
[03:24] <cy_`> s/am//
[03:26] <RAOF_> Yeah.  I'm not sure what more I can do to get that moving.  The bug is all ready to be fixed.
[03:27] <RAOF_> apt-get source nvidia-glx-new: Need to get 144MB of source archives.
[03:27] <RAOF_> Wow
[03:27] <cy_`> hua
[03:27] <cy_`> sl eMaX
[05:36] <tolonuga> Hi. I found a bug, tracked it down, fixed it upstream, filed it in launchpad against the ubuntu package, documented whats wrong and how to fix it. what else can I do to get the fix into the ubuntu package fast?
[05:43] <jussi01> tolonuga: have you created a debdiff and attached it to the bug report?
[05:43] <jussi01> or a patch?
[05:48] <tolonuga> one file needs to be replaced, I added the url of the replacement file. I can create a patch as well, if that is preferred.
[05:48] <tolonuga> the replacement file is in the upstream projects svn tree (i.e. official source and I'm the upstream maintainer).
[05:49] <jussi01> tolonuga: a patch is preffered. I suggest you also jump into #ubuntu-motu and ask there, as they have more experience and look after such things.
[05:50] <tolonuga> ok, thanks.
[05:53] <tolonuga> jussi01: should the diff only update the file or also debian/changelog?
[05:54] <jussi01> tolonuga: Im not certain. -motu is definately the place to ask though.
[05:56] <tolonuga> ok, thanls.-
[05:56] <tolonuga> sorry4typo. thanks.
[05:56] <jussi01> :)
[07:15] <roe> anyone else have issues with compiz.real crashing?
[07:16] <freakabcd> roe, shouldn;t you be asking that in #compiz or compiz-fusion?
[07:17] <roe> I don't think so, as it works as compiz-fusion works fine on my debian testing box, but running an up-to-date version of gutsy it compiz crashes on startup
[07:18] <roe> understanding that it comes "pre installed" in gutsy so I did not touch it
[07:18] <lamalex> roe: i do
[07:19] <roe> you have problems as well?
[07:19] <lamalex> yah
[07:19] <lamalex> compiz.real won't run
[07:19] <lamalex> with the installed desktop effects
[08:02] <tsdgeos> anyone knows why my gutsy laptop locks when starting X
[08:02] <tsdgeos> the Xorg process eats 99% of CPU
[08:02] <PriceChild> using compiz/beryl/whatever?
[08:03] <Vai_Ro> just curious has 7.10 implemented the new multi moniter setup fucntion yet?
[08:03] <tsdgeos> PriceChild: nope, plain X
[08:03] <h3sp4wn> Vai_Ro: On intel video cards should work
[08:03] <tsdgeos> it's an intel wathever graphics
[08:04] <Vai_Ro> what about nvidia cards I'm running an 8800
[08:04] <Vai_Ro> with an amd mobo
[08:06] <h3sp4wn> nvidia's driver doesn't impliment it afaik
[08:06] <Vai_Ro> hmm that stinks oh well maybe I'll hold off on upgrading ftm
[08:08] <tsdgeos> yikai!
[08:08] <tsdgeos> got it working
[08:08] <tsdgeos> xorg log rocks :D
[08:08] <tsdgeos> bye!
[08:11] <ScislaC> Woohoo for channel topics! :) (was wondering about the apt issues)
[08:13] <DanaG> What was tsdgeos talking about with NIVIDA?
[08:47] <mrsno__> ScislaC woohoo for people who read topics :D
[09:14] <pimp31415> lol
[09:14] <pimp31415> woohoo for meeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!~
[09:25] <pimp31415> gutsy seems to adjust the dpi or something
[09:25] <pimp31415> no matter my screen resolution its all about the same size
[09:49] <pimp31415> !grub
[09:49] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:51] <buz> is intel pro wireless 4965 already supported in gutsy?
[10:00] <h3sp4wn> mrsno__: ubuntu messes it up for me also (hardcoding 100dpi is stupid)
[10:02] <starz> !grub
[10:02] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:23] <slimz> hey guys, is there a known bug for remote desktop setting crashing on start?
[10:26] <jussi01> slimz: not certain, but what message are you getting?
[10:29] <slimz> jussi01, actually i just tried again to launch it from the controlpanel, and nothing came up
[10:30] <jussi01> slimz: are you using krdc?
[10:30] <slimz> is there a command to run it from cli to see if theres an error?
[10:30] <slimz> whats krdc?
[10:30] <jussi01> k remote desktop something or other..
[10:30] <jussi01> which program are you using?
[10:31] <slimz> no just the regular one built in,to be ableto vnc
[10:31] <slimz> not kubuntu, ubuntu
[10:31] <jussi01> hmm, try xvncviewer see if it gives you the same error
[10:32] <jussi01> (sudo apt-get install xvncviewer)
[10:32] <h3sp4wn> try just rdesktop from cli
[10:32] <slimz> jussi01, yeah vncviewer works fine
[10:32] <slimz> jussi01, but i cant get the option to vnc into my ubuntu box
[10:33] <jussi01> slimz: Im not sure then. sorry.
[10:36] <slimz> jussi01, okthanks anwyays
[10:36] <jussi01> slimz: sorry i couldnt be of more help