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cjwatson_ | TheMuso: sure | 10:20 |
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Hobbsee | morning cjwatson | 10:22 |
cjwatson | good morning | 10:23 |
cjwatson | excellent, apt upgrades without complaints this morning | 10:23 |
Hobbsee | indeed. thank mvo for that one | 10:23 |
Hobbsee | cjwatson: is henrik there with you? | 10:23 |
cjwatson | Hobbsee: I did a chunk of it yesterday, actually ... ;) | 10:24 |
cjwatson | Hobbsee: haven't seen him yet this morning, but he is here this week, yes | 10:24 |
Hobbsee | cjwatson: okay, and yousrelf then. i just saw his name on the changelog :) | 10:24 |
Hobbsee | cjwatson: when he comes, if you remember, could you ask him to contact me? | 10:24 |
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Hobbsee | morning bryce | 10:25 |
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Hobbsee | morning mvo | 10:25 |
cjwatson | Hobbsee: ok | 10:26 |
Hobbsee | cjwatson: thanks | 10:26 |
cjwatson | mvo: guten Morgen | 10:26 |
mvo | guten morgen Hobbsee | 10:27 |
Hobbsee | morgen mvo. Wie gehts? | 10:27 |
mvo | Hobbsee: danke, gut | 10:28 |
Hobbsee | :) | 10:28 |
LaserJock | ... and you've tapped out my knowledge of German ;-) | 10:29 |
Hobbsee | hehe | 10:30 |
Hobbsee | mine's quickly dying. although i was reminded of a whole heap of it, going thru frankfurt airprot | 10:30 |
siretart | Yay, deutsche Kabal bei der Arbeit :) | 10:31 |
siretart | morning * | 10:31 |
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Hobbsee | arbeit...arbeit.... | 10:31 |
Hobbsee | come on brain, give me the translation... | 10:32 |
Hobbsee | ah :) | 10:32 |
LaserJock | Hobbsee: more like "come on Google, give me the translation..." | 10:32 |
StevenK | Heh | 10:32 |
Hobbsee | LaserJock: the brain recognised the word, so it had a chance at the translation | 10:33 |
Hobbsee | morgen ogra | 10:33 |
ogra | hey Hobbsee | 10:33 |
ogra | training german ? | 10:33 |
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Hobbsee | ogra: we decided english was too boring, and switched to german today | 10:33 |
ogra | sehr gut :) | 10:33 |
Hobbsee | ogra: i actually learned german for about 5 years. unfortunately, never very much of it. | 10:34 |
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ogra | Hobbsee, you should visit german then :) | 10:34 |
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Hobbsee | ogra: clearly you didnt hear me defaulting to german when people would speak to me in spanish, while at UDS. | 10:34 |
StevenK | I did 2 years of German in high school. I never picked up much, and that was 13 years ago. | 10:34 |
Hobbsee | ogra: i plan to. will probably move there, actually. somewhere in the future. | 10:34 |
thom | *giggle* glad i'm not the only person who does that | 10:35 |
Hobbsee | thom: :) | 10:35 |
Hobbsee | "if it's not english, then it must be german. oh wait" | 10:35 |
LaserJock | Hobbsee: I kept mixing French and Spanish | 10:36 |
tepsipakki | I did 5 years in school, but never used it much.. besides my wife is teaching in Deutsche Schule Helsinki so there hardly is need for it either :) | 10:36 |
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Hobbsee | LaserJock: nice...nice... | 10:36 |
thom | "je voudrais dos cervesas por favor"? | 10:36 |
ajmitch | heh | 10:37 |
Keybuk | my German has degraded so much that I'm not sure I could tell it from Spanish | 10:39 |
Hobbsee | ogra: just convince them to hold another UDS or something in somewhere german-speaking, please. | 10:39 |
Hobbsee | haha | 10:39 |
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thom | we could do the netherlands and really confuse things for you | 10:39 |
LaserJock | Hobbsee: they'll probably do it someplace silly ... like London ;-) | 10:40 |
Hobbsee | LaserJock: well, i would like to visit london, so no problems ther.e | 10:40 |
LaserJock | I *think* I might be able to translate ok there | 10:40 |
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Hobbsee | morning calc | 10:40 |
Mithrandir | hm, am I the only one who get BADSIG on http://archive.ubuntu.com gutsy Release? | 10:43 |
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Hobbsee | greetings Mithrandir, dholbach | 10:45 |
dholbach | hiya Hobbsee | 10:45 |
Mithrandir | hello, Hobbsee | 10:46 |
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calc | Hobbsee: hi :) | 10:46 |
Hobbsee | :) | 10:46 |
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calc | no more jet lag for me (i hope) | 10:46 |
Hobbsee | heh | 10:47 |
Hobbsee | but jetlag is oh so fun! | 10:48 |
calc | heh, yea right | 10:48 |
calc | doko: did ooo fail due to those two empty de.po files (that is what i got from reading the log anyway) | 10:50 |
doko | calc: yes | 10:51 |
doko | calc: if you do want to investigate on your laptop, run debian/rules gsi-export | 10:52 |
doko | maybe the new version of translate-toolkit is the cause | 10:52 |
calc | doko: ok | 10:52 |
calc | hmm yea it jumped from 0.10.1-1 to 1.0.1-1 on july 5 | 10:54 |
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calc | should be relatively easy to determine if it is the cxause | 10:55 |
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Hobbsee | erk, cjwatson appears to be going thru teh ubuntu-devel moderation queue | 11:17 |
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calc | does FOO+=bar in make automatically add a space before the added item? | 11:30 |
calc | and is there a way to keep it from doing that? | 11:30 |
cjwatson | calc: yes, see 'info make Appending' | 11:32 |
cjwatson | (it automatically adds a space) | 11:32 |
calc | ok | 11:32 |
cjwatson | I don't see a way to keep it from doing that, unless you can get away with using 'FOO := $(FOO)bar' | 11:32 |
cjwatson | see that info node first though, as that's a little different | 11:32 |
calc | the particular issue is PATH+=:/usr/sbin in this case | 11:33 |
calc | which seems to cause issue since path then contains a space | 11:33 |
cjwatson | ah, PATH := $(PATH):/usr/sbin ought to be a reasonable answer then | 11:33 |
calc | cjwatson: ok | 11:33 |
calc | yep that worked, thanks | 11:34 |
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mvo | is someone here who uses evms? if so, could you please put the content to a pastebin for me? | 12:32 |
dholbach | mvo: which content? | 12:33 |
dholbach | (not that I use it, ...) | 12:33 |
mvo | *cough* | 12:34 |
mvo | the content of /proc/mounts please :) | 12:34 |
mvo | thanks dholbach | 12:34 |
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Mithrandir | bryce: could you please get the xserver with the composite patch needed for mobile in? | 01:24 |
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StevenK | Mithrandir/pitti: Would you mind giving kwave back on sparc when you have a spare second? Thanks. | 01:34 |
pitti | StevenK: done | 01:34 |
StevenK | pitti: Thanks! | 01:35 |
pitti | cheers :) | 01:35 |
StevenK | pitti: NBS has exploded with 2.6.22-7 stuff, by the way | 01:36 |
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ScottK | keescook: Thanks for taking care of gnupg. That completes the code changes for S/MIME by default (and GPG as a bonus) in kmail for Gutsy. Now documentation ... | 01:40 |
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Yagisan_ | doko, ping | 01:53 |
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Yagisan | doko, I was told to point you at this -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-4.1/+bug/125031 | 01:54 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 125031 in gcc-4.1 "defines BIG_ENDIAN on little endian machines" [Undecided,New] | 01:54 |
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Keybuk | iwj: I'm dropping the udev suppress-syslog patch | 02:17 |
Keybuk | Kay agreed that it made no sense to use syslog() if --verbose is given | 02:18 |
Keybuk | so udevd --verbose will now do exactly what you want | 02:18 |
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iwj | Keybuk: Excellent. | 02:19 |
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StevenK | Hrm. It looks like sejong hates the world. | 02:20 |
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pitti | StevenK: sparc FTW! | 02:21 |
StevenK | Heh | 02:21 |
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Keybuk | In fact, all our patches to udevd can be dropped \o/ | 02:30 |
calc | Keybuk: udevd won't turn into network manager when the patches are dropped will it? ;) | 02:40 |
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ogra | oh now that would be fun :) | 02:41 |
ogra | i'D be curious how the udevd-applet would look like then ;) | 02:42 |
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infinity | StevenK: sejong and artigas both, interestingly... Both rescued now. | 02:48 |
StevenK | infinity: Great, thanks | 02:49 |
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Keybuk | calc: no | 02:58 |
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seb128 | TheMuso: no need to open bugs about new desktop package versions, they are listed on desktop todo wiki already | 03:27 |
TheMuso | seb128: ok | 03:28 |
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tkamppeter | pitti, ping | 03:38 |
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pitti | tkamppeter: pong | 03:38 |
tkamppeter | pitti, can you have a look at bug 41267, it seems that CUPS still does not log for some people. | 03:40 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 41267 in cupsys "cupsys cannot create error_log" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/41267 | 03:40 |
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tkamppeter | pitti, another problem is bug 112803, could probably not be reproduced upstream and so never got fixed. | 03:45 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 112803 in cupsys "MASTER [Feisty] cupsd leaking file descriptors (was: Multiple jobs are not printed)" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/112803 | 03:45 |
keescook | ScottK: rockin'! thanks (to you and geser) for getting things gathered and pinging me. :) | 03:45 |
pitti | tkamppeter: it's still on my radar, but no time yet; maybe you can have a look? I probably won't have time this week during the sprint | 03:46 |
ScottK | keescook: BTW, we will now have S/MIME and GPG sigining and encryption by default for Kmail for Gutsy. This was the last piece. | 03:46 |
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keescook | nice indeed. :) | 03:46 |
ScottK | Now that pinentry is in Main, it might be possible to do that with other MUAs (but since I don't use them, I've no idea). | 03:47 |
seb128 | TheMuso: oh, you worked on updates? | 03:47 |
ScottK | keescook: Did you see my ping on #ubuntu-motu yesterday about libnet-dns-perl? | 03:48 |
seb128 | TheMuso: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/WeeklyTODO you can update the wiki to claim update you work on | 03:48 |
TheMuso | seb128: Yeah, sorry I should have summarised a bit better. | 03:48 |
seb128 | TheMuso: add links to the packages and we will review them | 03:48 |
TheMuso | seb128: Ok. | 03:48 |
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tkamppeter | pitti, then I will move all this stuff over to after the sprint. When it is over? | 03:56 |
pitti | tkamppeter: just this week | 03:56 |
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pbn | d | 04:12 |
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pkl_ | dent | 04:29 |
StevenK | pitti: No fair showing glew and parrot in NBS if the new binaries haven't made it past NEW. :-) | 04:31 |
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sivang | is pitti around at all? | 04:32 |
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keescook | ScottK: I may have missed it; I was tracking that bug (I think I requested the gutsy sync already). | 04:44 |
ScottK | keescook: http://lwn.net/Alerts/240438/ is a libnet-dns-perl security issue that we appear to have in all released versions. | 04:45 |
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keescook | I think it needs to be fixed, but it was low on my personal list of things to do. | 04:46 |
ScottK | OK. Thanks. I'll look into it if I have time. | 04:47 |
keescook | very cool; thanks. | 04:47 |
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geser | keescook: I'll update the patches for the gsambad CVE. I wonder why Debian didn't create a dpatch. | 04:52 |
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persia | geser: Some members of the debian security team don't like dpatch for several reasons. | 04:53 |
imbrandon | BenC, ping ( kernel issue ) | 04:53 |
keescook | geser: yeah I'm not sure either; it's kind of odd -- especially given that the fix isn't a full fix. I haven't had a chance to ask the uploader. | 04:54 |
geser | keescook: the code touches the tmpfile and redirects the output from smbstatus into it, so it needs a filename | 04:57 |
geser | does it work if mkstemp generates the file and also opens them? | 04:57 |
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Riddell | mr_pouit: what's the method behind all your sync requests? | 05:30 |
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keescook | geser: yeah, the fact that the fd is open is no problem; frequently one can just mkstemp and close the fd. The file (with good name and permissions) will remain. | 05:42 |
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pitti | StevenK: heh, will happen soonish :) | 05:49 |
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tsmithe | hi - i was wondering if an archive admin could check out the ubuntustudio-look package in binary NEW; thanks :) | 05:53 |
geser | keescook: does mkstemp generate better file names than tempnam? | 05:57 |
keescook | geser: it's the fact that mkstemp actually _creates_ the file, rather than just generating a name. there is (a very hard but possible) race condition between the mktmpname, the touch, and the chmod. | 05:58 |
keescook | mkstemp basically handles all three operations (name, touch, chmod) in an un-raceable way. | 05:59 |
geser | and the template given to mkstemp contains the created filename? | 05:59 |
geser | the manpage is a little bit short on that part | 06:00 |
keescook | right. So, for example "gsambad-XXXXXX" which could result in gsambad-jX6f42 | 06:00 |
keescook | it literally expects the argument to have 6 trailing "X" characters. (kinda odd) | 06:00 |
geser | ok, will prepare an updated debdiff | 06:00 |
keescook | very cool! thanks, I'll propose it to debian as well when you're done. :) | 06:01 |
geser | have you had also time to look on the fireflier debdiffs? | 06:01 |
keescook | I was actually looking at them right now. :) | 06:01 |
keescook | I was trying to figure out why the debdiff has two changelogs. :) | 06:01 |
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keescook | aaaand, this update from Debian is "unsafe" too. | 06:02 |
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pitti | seb128: NO_PKG_MANGLE=1 | 06:04 |
keescook | they should be doing oldmask=$(umask); umask 0077; mkdir -p /var/run/fireflier; umask "$oldmask" | 06:04 |
keescook | in the maketmpdir function. | 06:05 |
keescook | geser: ^^ | 06:05 |
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seb128 | pitti: thanks | 06:06 |
geser | keescook: doesn't the chmod 700 sets the dir permissions to safe values? | 06:06 |
keescook | geser: correct, but in the time between the mkdir and a chmod, someone can enter the directory. It's a very very very minor race, but if it's being corrected, it should be corrected fully. :) | 06:07 |
geser | good, will prepare updated debdiffs too | 06:07 |
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geser | the debdiff for edgy has some problems with gnomeclient/configure.ac which makes it FTBFS | 06:09 |
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keescook | mathiaz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SbuildLVMHowto | 06:16 |
cjwatson | keescook: I believe mkdir -m 0700 would be safe as well | 06:18 |
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cjwatson | and is less effort than messing with umask | 06:19 |
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keescook | cjwatson: ah! right, yes, that would be cleaner. | 06:19 |
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keescook | shawarma: we just had a short discussion about ebox+sudo. it has been suggested that it switch from using sudo to using userv... | 06:37 |
kent | ebox? | 06:39 |
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ogra | keescook, let me guess who suggested *grin* | 06:43 |
keescook | ogra: I bet you'll win. :) cjwatson seemed to agree, though, so without having used userv or looking at the ebox, I agreed too. ;) | 06:44 |
keescook | *the ebox source | 06:44 |
cjwatson | really just because editing /etc/sudoers from a maintainer script is a bit of a nightmare | 06:44 |
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Mithrandir | we could have /etc/sudoers.d | 06:45 |
cjwatson | and liable to make experienced sysadmins crap themselves | 06:45 |
Mithrandir | :-P | 06:45 |
ogra | *provide | 06:45 |
cjwatson | ogra: not that ebox | 06:45 |
ogra | heh, indeed :) | 06:45 |
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xxxxx1 | algum core-dev de florianpolis aqui no #? | 06:47 |
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geser | keescook: here is the updated debdiff for gsambad: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8357940/feisty.debdiff | 06:52 |
geser | I've also reopened the bug as gutsy has also this suboptimal patch | 06:52 |
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geser | keescook: re the fireflier patch: is "mkdir -m 0700 /var/run/fireflier" really enough? what if the attacker creates that dir before the init-script and puts a symlink there? | 06:58 |
evand | seb128: http://rookery.ubuntu.com/~evand/uploaded/ | 06:59 |
evand | thanks again | 06:59 |
seb128 | evand: thank *you* for doing the update ;) | 06:59 |
shawarma | keescook: userv? | 07:00 |
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geser | keescook: ah, /var/run/fireflier/fireflier.rules gets removed before the output is redirected there, so it should be safe, right? | 07:04 |
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seb128 | evand: uploaded | 07:10 |
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asac | pitti: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29386/ ... this doesn't stop from activation to be redone, but the interface should be teared down anymore | 07:17 |
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geser | can someone explain me why dict-wn build from word-net (universe) is in main? | 07:35 |
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Keybuk | gnargh, my kernel didn't compile | 07:44 |
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cprov | siretart: Fujitsu: shawarma: could you, please, check the PPA UI prototype: | 07:54 |
cprov | https://dogfood.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas | 07:54 |
cprov | https://dogfood.launchpad.net/~shawarma/+archive | 07:54 |
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siretart | cprov: sweet! | 08:42 |
cprov | siretart: thanks | 08:42 |
siretart | cprov: I assume you want feedback on the ui. What form do you prefer? irc, email, malone? | 08:42 |
cprov | siretart: malone (product -> soyuz, tag -> ppa) | 08:43 |
mr_pouit | Riddell: bugs listed on this page: http://ajmitch.net.nz/~ajmitch/missing-fixes-rc.html, which are also in ubuntu (ftbfs...) | 08:43 |
siretart | okay. willdo | 08:43 |
cprov | siretart: check what pitti did -> https://dogfood.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-langpack/+archive :) | 08:43 |
siretart | wow! | 08:44 |
cprov | 1606 langpacks ? | 08:44 |
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siretart | busy martin :) | 08:44 |
siretart | cprov: btw, are you aware that the certificate on dogfood has expired? | 08:45 |
cprov | siretart: yes, I know. I will file a RT now before I forget | 08:46 |
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cprov | siretart: done | 08:48 |
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siretart | cjwatson: why is live-initramfs blacklisted from syncing from debian? AIUI the ubuntu live system is handled in casper, and live-initramfs is the debian fork? (bug #124600) | 09:05 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 124600 in live-initramfs "Please sync live-initramfs (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124600 | 09:05 |
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Keybuk | *bounce* | 10:03 |
pitti | Keybuk: kernel finally works now? :) | 10:03 |
Keybuk | nope :-/ | 10:03 |
Keybuk | just bouncing anyway | 10:03 |
Keybuk | annoyingly pretty sunset | 10:03 |
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mjg59 | Wow. You're managing to get back to the hotel for 9? | 10:05 |
pitti | yeah, we just had some pizza :) | 10:06 |
ion_ | Dont remind me of food, please. ;-) | 10:06 |
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ion_ | catch :cake do yield end | 10:09 |
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Keybuk | pitti: I need to find out which header declares a structure I'm using to reference another :-/ | 10:11 |
pitti | Keybuk: happy grepping then | 10:12 |
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ion_ | keybuk: happy cscoping then | 10:13 |
Keybuk | cs? | 10:13 |
ion_ | apt-cache show cscope | 10:15 |
geser | !info cscope | 10:16 |
ubotu | cscope: Interactively examine a C program source. In component universe, is optional. Version 15.6-2 (feisty), package size 148 kB, installed size 608 kB | 10:16 |
Keybuk | cscope on the kernel seems drastic | 10:16 |
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pitti | wwoods: here? | 10:24 |
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hardwarehank | hello | 10:25 |
Keybuk | yay it built; unfortunately it means my patch is no longer one line :-/ | 10:25 |
hardwarehank | neverblue: i have an ext3 partition with a bunch of data on it in a dir called 'old'. I want to install ubuntu on that partition without losing the '/old' directory in a format. How? | 10:26 |
hardwarehank | -neverblue | 10:26 |
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pitti | wwoods: hi! I was just looking at the bzr merge of your branch; that looks manageable, so I'll merge it into trunk; unless there's something that doesn't work yet? | 10:27 |
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wwoods | I think pretty much everything works | 10:29 |
wwoods | IIRC there's no obvious STUB / FIXME lines | 10:29 |
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pitti | cool | 10:29 |
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wwoods | oh wait - get_available_version() is a stub (I lie and say that every package is already up-to-date) | 10:39 |
wwoods | and get_source_tree() is a stub but.. I think maybe apport-retrace-fedora won't use it | 10:39 |
wwoods | get_available_version is actually a really easy fix, I've just been working on getting everything else working first | 10:40 |
wwoods | but yeah, I think it's OK to commit that stuff to trunk | 10:40 |
geser | Mithrandir: have you an idea why dict-wn build from word-net (universe) ended in main? | 10:41 |
Kmos | !info wine-doors | 10:46 |
ubotu | Package wine-doors does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas | 10:46 |
Kmos | http://www.wine-doors.org/releases/wine-doors_0.1-1_all.deb | 10:46 |
Kmos | v0.1 is out =) | 10:46 |
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Kmos | geser: this one is for you :) when u've time | 10:48 |
cromo | hi. I was about to install flashplugin today under feisty and couldn't because of md5sum mismatch. this is due to recent flash plugin update (to 0 9.0.47) - the package for feisty is still 9.0.36 IFRC. Any ideas? This is my girlfriend's desktop, I am archlinux guy so don't really know what is going on under ubuntu :) | 10:48 |
cromo | It seems that this has not been reported yet | 10:48 |
cromo | (I looked in launchpad, but not very precisely to be honest) | 10:48 |
cromo | I tried to ask at #ubuntu, but all the answers pointed on how to install it manually, which is not the proper way out | 10:49 |
gnomefreak | cromo: the newest flash is broken thats why we havent updated it in gutsy and as for feisty im not sure it will be upgraded for feisty | 10:50 |
cromo | ok, but there's still a md5mismatch | 10:51 |
cromo | the script downloads the newer version and expects the older | 10:51 |
gnomefreak | cromo: it does? | 10:51 |
cromo | indeed | 10:51 |
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cromo | I tried many times and it was all the same | 10:51 |
cromo | e.g. md5 mismatch | 10:52 |
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cromo | I guess that the link inside the script points to the neweset tarball version available at macromedia's | 10:53 |
gnomefreak | flashplugin-nonfree 9.0.31.0.2ubuntu1 [15.4kB] | 10:54 |
gnomefreak | works fine here | 10:54 |
gnomefreak | cromo: do you have automatix or 3rd party repos that might have it in it | 10:54 |
gnomefreak | oh hold that thought | 10:54 |
cromo | nope, clean feisty install | 10:55 |
gnomefreak | cromo: it still installs the right version but yes that is weird | 10:55 |
cromo | hold on a sec | 10:56 |
cromo | I'll ask my gf to show the output of the console | 10:56 |
gnomefreak | im wondering if adobe didnt drop the 9.0.31 | 10:56 |
gnomefreak | if they dropped it and used same link for the newest version | 10:56 |
cromo | it seems so | 10:56 |
gnomefreak | the flash source just grabs the generic named tarball | 10:57 |
cromo | gnomefreak: what's even more weird, it does install the package despite md5 mismatch | 10:59 |
gnomefreak | cromo: it did here | 10:59 |
cromo | but the package doesn't contain the plugin itself | 10:59 |
cromo | gnomefreak: it did at my gf's, too | 10:59 |
gnomefreak | policy shows it installed here | 10:59 |
cromo | right, but the plugin files are not there | 10:59 |
gnomefreak | im grabbing source see if i can find something that jumps out slaps me in face | 11:00 |
cromo | sure | 11:00 |
cromo | btw. I was really, really impressed with feisty. I previously used badger before switching to archlinux (needed something more "hackish"), and the progress is _immense_ | 11:00 |
gnomefreak | cromo: we should move this to #ubuntu-motu | 11:00 |
cromo | ok | 11:01 |
cromo | let's do | 11:01 |
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Mithrandir | geser: probably because I suck | 11:54 |
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geser | so I should add to bug #124626 that dict-wn should be moved to universe before the sync? | 11:56 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 124626 in wordnet "[Sync Request] Sync wordnet (1:3.0-2) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124626 | 11:56 |
Mithrandir | geser: no, fixed. | 11:56 |
Mithrandir | I just did it now. | 11:57 |
geser | thanks | 11:57 |
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Mithrandir | happy to help | 12:01 |
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