[12:01] <kkd_> hello everyone
[12:01] <kkd_> i have a small question
[12:02] <mapez> rebooted my computer and I can access my ntfs drive.. i have installed ntfs-config etc.
[12:02] <mapez> never had a prob before
[12:02] <MrElendig> kkd_: ask away
[12:02] <kkd_> i need to run this command " # rpm -Uvh flash.rpm" but it must be run as root. how do i runn it as root in the shell console
[12:02] <SF100> Drk I did that again and it said 0 packeges upgraded, installed, etc
[12:03] <Hausberg> I have a strange problem - I got two .wav files for surround testing one in DD and one in DTS. When I play DD file with aplay -D surround51 or aplay -D hw=0,0 I get quite a nice passthrough to stereos with all channels. When I try mplayer -ao alsa:device=surround51 I get garbage only
[12:03] <MrElendig> kkd_: why rpm?
[12:03] <con-man> if I want to ghost my current drive to another
[12:03] <con-man> what program can I use?
[12:03] <con-man> my current drive is dying, and I want to ghost it to a good drive
[12:03] <con-man> before it dies
[12:03] <hubertb> kkd_: Are you going to install adobe flash player?
[12:03] <Xsylotte> question: i've lost trash icon :D
[12:03] <Xsylotte> in bottom panel.
[12:03] <kkd_> yes
[12:04] <con-man> !ghost
[12:04] <ubotu> On IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>
[12:04] <Xsylotte> !ubotu trash panel\
[12:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trash panel\ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:04] <con-man> !image
[12:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about image - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:04] <Xsylotte> !ubotu trash panel
[12:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trash panel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:04] <hubertb> kkd_: Open a terminal an run this: <hubertb> torhu: virtualbox.org
[12:04] <Xsylotte> !ubotu trash
[12:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:04] <hubertb> kkd_: shit
[12:04] <con-man> anyone?
[12:04] <hubertb> kkd_: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[12:04] <con-man> !ohmy | hubertb
[12:04] <ubotu> hubertb: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:04] <kkd_> ok
[12:04] <Xsylotte> question: i've lost trash icon :D in bottom panel ? help anyone ? :D
[12:04] <hubertb> sorry
[12:04] <daan> Xsylotte: right click the panel and click add
[12:04] <kkd_> what's sudo
[12:04] <] grimm[> Drk_Guy: Hmm, those repos don't actually don't seem to have an updated version of mplayer or ffmpeg, I've got w32codecs installed on my system, but it's still not allowing me to play some wmv3 content that I'm trying to transcode into a free format
[12:05] <con-man> kkd_: sudo runs the command as administrator
[12:05] <hubertb> kkd_: sudo runs a command with superuser privledges (aka "administrator")
[12:05] <Rumpa> !sudo
[12:05] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:05] <MrElendig> kkd_: run man sudo in a terminal
[12:05] <con-man> can anyone recommend a linux equivalent to ghost/partitionmagic
[12:05] <knix> Sudo does not run a command as superuser
[12:05] <Judg3_Dr34D> !gksudo
[12:05] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application>  See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo for more info
[12:05] <knix> That's the point of sudo!
[12:05] <kkd_> that you guys really appreciate
[12:05] <MrElendig> con-man: you can always use dd
[12:05] <daan> con-man: dd?
[12:05] <con-man> MrElendig: ?
[12:06] <con-man> MrElendig: dd?
[12:06] <] grimm[> Drk_Guy: I tried compiling a few builds on my own, but while I could get what I needed to work to play, I can't get it to properly compile with all of the output codecs that I want.
[12:06] <Drk_Guy> grimm, try transcoding them with soundconverter (sudo apt-get install soundconverter)
[12:06] <MrElendig> con-man: man dd
[12:06] <Judg3_Dr34D> !dd
[12:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:06] <MelonenGuu> ... D:
[12:06] <] grimm[> Drk_Guy: It's for video
[12:06] <MelonenGuu> How do I make workgroups and such?
[12:06] <Kavon89> I need help mounting my old 20Gb Windows XP drive, I need to get some files off of it. I can see it in the Computer window but it won't mount. Help please!
[12:06] <MrElendig> con-man: if the discs are of different sice, then just recreate the partion scheme, and use tar or cp -a to move the data
[12:06] <MelonenGuu> Rather, what should i seach for to get more information?
[12:06] <SF100> Drk_Guy you still w/ me?
[12:06] <daan> con-man: dd is a command read up on it
[12:06] <Drk_Guy> Then use !wine and some video converter for windowze
[12:06] <Xsylotte> thx daan.
[12:06] <Drk_Guy> Yeah SF100
[12:06] <Drk_Guy> !wine
[12:06] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[12:07] <SF100> ok just checking
[12:07] <con-man> daan: I did, nothing about ghosting partitions
[12:07] <Drk_Guy> SF100, go to the ALSA driver compilation dood
[12:07] <con-man> or drives
[12:07] <] grimm[> Drk_Guy: one issue that I had with building mencoder on my own is that I can't get it to find libmp3lame when I compile it
[12:07] <MelonenGuu> !workgroup
[12:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about workgroup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:07] <Drk_Guy> So...
[12:07] <Kavon89> I need help mounting my old 20Gb Windows XP drive, I need to get some files off of it. I can see it in the Computer window but it won't mount. Help please!
[12:07] <con-man> can anyone recommend a linux equivalent to ghost/partitionmagic
[12:07] <Drk_Guy> Try putting symlinks instead of files
[12:07] <daan> con-man: if you want gui goodness you can try acronis www.acronis.com
[12:07] <yosyp> wow, so many poeple
[12:08] <dsnyders> Hi all.  How do you safely halt the defrag utility?
[12:08] <] grimm[> Drk_Guy: There're some threads on the forum about it, but they didn't amount to much.  I've generally had a hard time mixing stuff I build on my own well with ubuntu
[12:08] <MrElendig> Kavon89: mount -t ntfs /dev/the-disc /somewhere
[12:08] <RoundyT1> what should i learn if i want to start developing programs with gui's for ubuntu?
[12:08] <Drk_Guy> !ntfs-config
[12:08] <SF100> where or what is the ALSA compilation dood?
[12:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs-config - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:08] <dirtyhand> Anyone know a good Flex/Actionscript irc channel?
[12:08] <yosyp> i have openssh-server, i run sshd but i am unable to log in remotely
[12:08] <] grimm[> RoundyT1: What is your programming background?
[12:08] <yosyp> but i am able to log in locally
[12:08] <yosyp> why is that?
[12:08] <con-man> daan whats it listed as in apt?
[12:08] <Kavon89> MrElendig: What would I put for Somewhere?
[12:08] <mahrellon> Hi, is it possible to "expand" an ext2/ext3 partition without any loss of data?
[12:09] <daan> con-man: no you have to buy it
[12:09] <MrElendig> Kavon89: run it in a terminal
[12:09] <daan> con-man: otherwise dd is free
[12:09] <hubertb> yosyp: are you behind a firewall /router?
[12:09] <RoundyT1> ] grimm[, haha, not much, html like the back of my hand mostly, some php here and there...
[12:09] <Drk_Guy> SF100, with those instructions, you will "make" your own version of ALSA
[12:09] <MrElendig> Kavon89: with sudo
[12:09] <yosyp> hubertb i have a router, but it doens't be a problem
[12:09] <con-man> daan: the man on dd tells me nothing about ghosting a drive
[12:09] <yosyp> hubertb vnc behaves the same, getting relaly annoying
[12:09] <Drk_Guy> Kavon, use ntfs-config
[12:09] <Drk_Guy> No CLI interfaces, pure GUI, no complications
[12:09] <hubertb> yosyp: you need to forward the corresponding ports to your pc
[12:09] <SF100> so I should go to the alsa site and follow the instructions? but should I go into package mgr and remove anything first?
[12:09] <Kavon89> ok MrElendig
[12:09] <MrElendig> con-man: dd if=/dev/some_disc of=/dev/some_other_disc
[12:09] <] grimm[> RoundyT1: I'm not sure what you're trying to write, but in my experience, python and glade is not that bad
[12:10] <yosyp> hubertb but i'm trying to ssh from the same network, not from outside
[12:10] <Drk_Guy> SF100, let me check those instructions
[12:10] <con-man> con-man: dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdc
[12:10] <daan> con-man: wait a sec
[12:10] <con-man> ?
[12:10] <W8TAH> is this the proper channel for ubuntu server as well as desktop or is there a dedicated server channel?
[12:10] <RoundyT1> ] grimm[, im not sure either, haha. im just wondering where would be a good place to start...
[12:10] <Kavon89>  mount -t ntfs /dev/the-disc /somewhere
[12:10] <SF100> ok and keep my noob status in mind when you think of how easy it should be
[12:10] <con-man> daan: so dont type " dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdc"
[12:10] <Kavon89> MrElendig : mount: mount point /somewhere does not exist
[12:10] <hubertb> yosyp: thats really wired
[12:10] <con-man> daan: ?
[12:11] <MrElendig> con-man: but if the new disc is bigger/smaller, then I recomend to create the partions by hand then move over everything with cp -a  or tar
[12:11] <RoundyT1> Is ubuntu against easybuntu?
[12:11] <con-man> MrElendig: identical
[12:11] <] grimm[> RoundyT1: Right, nothing is really going to be easy with no programming background, but I felt like that was comparatively easier to learn than other possibilities.
[12:11] <yosyp> hubertb yeah, but the box works to go online and even to download via bittorent
[12:11] <daan> con-man: you can try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087
[12:11] <MrElendig> Kavon89: /somewhere is "somewhere" e.g. /mnt/win
[12:11] <Kavon89> o
[12:12] <MrElendig> Kavon89: and change /dev/the-disc for the correct
[12:12] <mahrellon> Question: Is it possible to Shrink an ntfs partition and then "expand/grow" a ext3 partition with Gparted?
[12:12] <Drk_Guy> Kavon, take in account it is recommended to mount the drives in the /mnt folder
[12:12] <MrElendig> e.g. /dev/sdb1 for the first partion on the second disc
[12:12] <con-man> daan: its doing it now, although there is no progress bar, I will have to wait till the disks stop spinning and im at a prompt again
[12:12] <RoundyT1> ] grimm[, well im going to be taking some classes soon that will hopefully get me books etc on the stuff
[12:12] <Drk_Guy> Mahrellon, it is possible
[12:12] <Drk_Guy> SF100
[12:12] <] grimm[> RoundyT1: You'd probably want to hit Guido's python tutorial to get a feel for how python works, then try some pyglade tutorials to get the fundamentals of gui programming with python.  It shouldn't be too hard to start with an easy project like a graphical calculator.
[12:12] <SF100> yes?
[12:13] <Drk_Guy> you with me?
[12:13] <TaJMoX> mneptok: Thanks for that conky config - it's grrrreat!  I only had to change "purple" to "green"   =)
[12:13] <SF100> yep and thanks so much
[12:13] <daan> con-man: did you just type in the command and tried it?
[12:13] <mahrellon> Drk_Guy: Thanks mate. I'll give it a try :)
[12:13] <con-man> daan: lol yeah
[12:13] <Drk_Guy> For nothing mahrellon+
[12:13] <Drk_Guy> ;)
[12:13] <daan> con-man: not very thoughful...
[12:13] <Stormx2> Hey guys. I remember that, in previous ubuntu versions, I could get a notice in the middle of the screen when I adjust volume. How can I get this back?
[12:13] <mahrellon> ;)
[12:13] <yosyp> i guess i wount get any help...
[12:13] <con-man> daan: my desk monitor shows sda and sdc as having activity
[12:13] <Drk_Guy> SF100, follow those instruction PRECISELY
[12:13] <con-man> daan: that suggests to me, sda is being copied to sdc
[12:13] <knix> Stormx2: gnome-volume-manager does itiirc
[12:13] <cchance> Can anyone help me? http://pastebin.ca/611376
[12:13] <SF100> right from the lsa site...right? and should I go into package mgr and remove anything first?
[12:13] <con-man> daan: worst case scenario I blank sdc and try again
[12:14] <TaJMoX> Stormx2: Make sure gnome-volume-manager is in your startups
[12:14] <Kavon89> Error reading bootsector: Input/output error Failed to startup volume: Input/output error Failed to mount '/dev/hdb1': Input/output error NTFS is inconsistent. Run chkdsk /f on Windows then reboot it TWICE! The usage of the /f parameter is very IMPORTANT! No modification was made to NTFS by this software.
[12:14] <daan> con-man: could be hope you have enough space
[12:14] <con-man> daan: of course both drives are identical
[12:14] <Kavon89> that is with ntfs-config
[12:14] <RoundyT1> ] grimm[, what's the site? or can i just google guido's
[12:14] <Drk_Guy> Kavon, wich soft you were using?
[12:14] <Drk_Guy> Wt...?
[12:14] <Kavon89> Drk_Guy ntfs-config
[12:14] <] grimm[> RoundyT1: http://docs.python.org/tut/
[12:14] <Drk_Guy> Ntfs-config didn'tput any hassle to me
[12:14] <Stormx2> knix: It doesn't seem to do it for me. Default ubuntu feisty install. I'm looking to get the dialog to come up from command-line.
[12:14] <MrElendig> Kavon89: sure hdb1 is the ntfs partion?
[12:14] <Stormx2> TaJMoX ping ^
[12:15] <RoundyT1> ] grimm[, haha, nvm .... http://www.python.org/~guido/ .?
[12:15] <Drk_Guy> It was ready to go out-of-the-box
[12:15] <MrElendig> if it is, then do as it says
[12:15] <SF100> Drk_Guy one final ? should I go into package mgr and remove anything first?
[12:15] <Kavon89> Mrelendig: it was the only one on the list
[12:15] <knix> Stormx2: ah, you want it to know when you change the volume through something like alsamixer? I don't thinkt hat's possible
[12:15] <MrElendig> Kavon89: then do as it says
[12:15] <con-man> daan: lol my computer is sloooooooow, as I am booted to sda right now
[12:15] <knix> Stormx2: It may have some kind of hook to alter the volume, I dunno
[12:15] <Stormx2> I'll look into it
[12:15] <Drk_Guy> SF100, i think you should remove what you purged again
[12:15] <Kavon89> MrElendig: I don't know how to do the restart drive twice
[12:15] <Stormx2> thanks for pinpointing the app, tho.
[12:15] <knix> np
[12:15] <daan> con-man: well if it doesn't work and you want something more ghost like try this http://www.partimage.org/Main_Page
[12:15] <Drk_Guy> With the -purge command too ;)
[12:15] <SF100> ok i will, thanks so much again
[12:16] <MrElendig> Kavon89: not restart the driver, restart windows
[12:16] <con-man> daan: kk thanks
[12:16] <dsnyders> Is anyone familiar with the defrag utility?
[12:16] <Drk_Guy> 4nothin' SF100
[12:16] <Kavon89> restart windows? i'm on ubuntu
[12:16] <Drk_Guy> I was helped sometime too ;)
[12:16] <MrElendig> Kavon89: read what is says
[12:16] <Drk_Guy> Kavon, restart and boot in Windowze
[12:16] <daan> dsnyders: what do you need it for
[12:16] <alecw1>  I have Compiz Fusion installed on my Machine, and it works awesome. However, I need to use Compiz Fusion with "indirect rendering". I have this set in my session manager (so it will boot on start) "compiz --indirect-rendering ccp". However, it doesn't do it, and it renders with direct rendering. Is there a way I can change this?
[12:16] <MrElendig> it tells you to boot windows and run chkdisc on it
[12:16] <dsnyders> daan, I need to halt it safely
[12:17] <Drk_Guy> I need help with defragging too
[12:17] <Drk_Guy> !!!!
[12:17] <RoundyT1> ] grimm[, what program should i use to start programming? like to do editing and stuff....
[12:17] <SF100> Drk_Guy it wants to purge gdm and ubuntu-desktop too will that screw anything up?
[12:17] <daan> dsnyders: no idea about that
[12:17] <daan> RoundyT1:  Gedit?
[12:17] <MrElendig> dsnyders: defrag for whay? xfs?
[12:17] <con-man> daan: its just that sda is dying, works intermittently and Im in a rush to ghost it to sdc, before it dies
[12:17] <MrElendig> what*
[12:17] <] grimm[> RoundyT1: I'd just start with the python cli
[12:17] <Drk_Guy> It's your choice
[12:17] <Drk_Guy> SF100, wait
[12:18] <SF100> ok Drk_guy
[12:18] <dsnyders> daan, I have a large hard drive, and it was running out of space.  I deleted several  gigs worth of data from it, but df still reported 0 blocks free.
[12:18] <Drk_Guy> Ubuntu-desktop TAKES DOWN THE WHOLE GNOME
[12:18] <daan> dsnyders: maybe it's still in the trash
[12:18] <dsnyders> MrElendig, defrag for ext2fs
[12:18] <] grimm[> RoundyT1: Gedit will give you python syntax highlighting
[12:18] <Drk_Guy> So, don't un-install (If you don't want to lose your themes and configs
[12:18] <RoundyT1> ] grimm[, k nice
[12:18] <Drk_Guy> ;)
[12:18] <gangsterlicious> my new linux wallpaper.. yo yo yooo yo! http://img1.jurko.net/wide/wallpaper_503.jpg
[12:18] <MrElendig> dsnyders: there isn't one?
[12:18] <SF100> I thought that but I didnt ask it to, I typed : sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils
[12:18] <dsnyders> daan, I could not see any hidden files, and I deleted stuff using command line (rm -rf)
[12:19] <daan> con-man: then i suggest you get acronis
[12:19] <Drk_Guy> And i think GDM is realted to GNOME too
[12:19] <daan> dsnyders: well defragging isn't going to help
[12:19] <con-man> daan: well if this works I wont need it rite?
[12:19] <daan> dsnyders: what is the filesystem type?
[12:19] <SF100> Drk could I let it do that then sudo apt-get install gdm ubuntu-desktop ?
[12:19] <dsnyders> daan, it is ext2
[12:19] <daan> con-man: yes but I am not sure it will
[12:20] <con-man> daan: ok, I will keep that in mind
[12:20] <daan> dsnyders: did you try baobab?
[12:20] <Drk_Guy> SF100, you can re-install them trough the console
[12:20] <torhu> does ubuntu 7.04 work fine in virtualbox on winxp?
[12:20] <dsnyders> daan, unmounting and remounting, and forceing fsck did not report the space.
[12:20] <Drk_Guy> But the dl size is so f..... big
[12:20] <TaJMoX> gangsterlicious: thanks for that!  #172 on my wallpaper rotation
[12:20] <daan> dsnyders: strange
[12:20] <dsnyders> daan, I'm not familiar with baobab.
[12:20] <Drk_Guy> Almost the half of the ISO file
[12:20] <] grimm[> RoundyT1: I've mostly just used something like gedit and the command line for coding and debugging in python, but I haven't really written much substantial.  I've tried Eric, it's fairly advanced IDE for python, but it's QT based and I felt like it was a bit cluttered.  It had a fairly decent Visual Studio-like debugging functions when I last tried it, and I'd imagine it's gotten a bit better now.
[12:20] <SF100> by console you mean package mgr or command line?
[12:20] <snk00sj> apparently the .desktop icons have the wrong MIME type (gnome), anyone knows howto restore these mime types ?
[12:20] <gangsterlicious> np
[12:20] <] grimm[> RoundyT1: http://www.die-offenbachs.de/eric/index.html
[12:20] <Drk_Guy> Cmd line
[12:20] <MrElendig> dsnyders: there is the defrag too, but it's not that good
[12:20] <daan> dsnyders: Disk Usage Analyzer in Ubuntu
[12:20] <snk00sj> the .desktop icons open with gedit, instead of just showing the launcher
[12:20] <MrElendig> s/too/tool
[12:21] <TaJMoX> gangsterlicious: It will be my wallpaper for 5 minutes every 860 minutes =))
[12:21] <RoundyT1> ] grimm[, can i get it from the repo'
[12:21] <RoundyT1> s
[12:21] <adamonline46> Does anyone know the option in apache2.conf to set which directory has my web content in it?
[12:22] <] grimm[> RoundyT1: They've got eric3 in the repos
[12:22] <dsnyders> daan, MrElendig,  I have the defrag running now, and I'd like to stop it.. safely.  The man page doesn't give any instructions on how to do this.
[12:22] <SF100> Drk when I go to install sudo apt-get install gdm ubuntu-desktop it insists on : The following extra packages will be installed: alsa-utils linux-sound-base
[12:22] <RoundyT1> adamonline46, you mean like virtual hosts?
[12:22] <RoundyT1> ] grimm[, thanks
[12:22] <Drk_Guy> How to defrag the disk???
[12:22] <MrElendig> dsnyders: try a sighup
[12:22] <MrElendig> Drk_Guy: what filesystem?
[12:22] <Drk_Guy> SF100, that's good
[12:22] <MrElendig> dsnyders: but no garanties
[12:23] <Nevhood> hello
[12:23] <Drk_Guy> MrElending: Ext2
[12:23] <Nevhood> haha tahnk you
[12:23] <ubunut> Hi!!!
[12:23] <slashdot> Hi, how to install install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz ? can some1 help me ?
[12:23] <MrElendig> Drk_Guy: the tool is named 'defrag'
[12:23] <Nevhood> *thank you!
[12:23] <Nevhood> i have a question everyone
[12:23] <Drk_Guy> SF100, try to see if re-installing GNOME helps ALSA run flawlessly
[12:23] <TaJMoX> adamonline46: it's the www-user's home folder    so edit your /etc/passwd
[12:23] <] grimm[> RoundyT1: anytime
[12:23] <Drk_Guy> Thank you MrE
[12:23] <Nevhood> i just installed ubuntu today
[12:23] <Nevhood> and...
[12:23] <Nevhood> i'm having problems at startup
[12:23] <MrElendig> slashdot: there is several packages for flas9
[12:23] <Nevhood> there's severe graphical corruption
[12:23] <MrElendig> no need to install from source
[12:23] <Nevhood> and then the login screen shows
[12:24] <Nevhood> all normal
[12:24] <samitheberber> slashdot: Why not use the one which come from package manager?
[12:24] <dsnyders> MrElendig, sighup?  How do you sighup?
[12:24] <SF100> Drk I did this before and still no result and when I type alsamixer I get : ALSA lib control.c:875:(snd_ctl_open_conf) Cannot open shared library /usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_pulse.so
[12:24] <SF100> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[12:24] <slashdot> i dont know
[12:24] <adamonline46> TaJMoX: Alright, ty
[12:24] <slashdot> but pls tell me how to install it :S
[12:24] <MrElendig> dsnyders: man kill
[12:24] <adamonline46> RoundyT1: Yes, I will need vhosts... Hmm
[12:24] <samitheberber> !flash
[12:24] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[12:24] <Nevhood> i'd appreciate it if someone could help!
[12:24] <daan> !patient
[12:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patient - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:25] <Nevhood> alright i'll be patient
[12:25] <daan> Nevhood: Is it happening when you're logged in?
[12:25] <Nevhood> no
[12:25] <MrElendig> Nevhood: what card you you have?
[12:25] <Nevhood> before i log in
[12:25] <TaJMoX> slashdot: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[12:25] <Nevhood> it's built-in
[12:25] <samitheberber> slashdot: I have also used: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[12:25] <Nevhood> ATI Radeon Xpress 200
[12:25] <mneptok> TaJMoX: np np. glad you're happy.
[12:25] <daan> Nevhood: Laptop right?
[12:25] <Nevhood> no
[12:25] <MrElendig> Nevhood: install the fglrx driver
[12:25] <Nevhood> desktop
[12:25] <Nevhood> fglrx driver?
[12:26] <Nevhood> how can i obtain and install it?
[12:26] <jatt> for laptops is ATI Radeon Xprses 200M (M=Mobile)
[12:26] <dsnyders> MrElendig, Thanks.  I'll see if I can coax it to die.
[12:26] <Shin_Gouki> hi! how do i install mp3 support for my system?
[12:26] <adamonline46> RoundyT1: At the bottom of apache2.conf, it says #include the virtual hosts configuration...  Would that vhosts config only be used if I need to run a different config for each vhost?
[12:26] <Drk_Guy> !codecs > Shin_Gouky
[12:26] <slashdot> Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, SeaMonkey,
[12:26] <slashdot> or Firefox browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla):
[12:26] <slashdot> what means that ?
[12:26] <slashdot> a
[12:26] <SF100> OK Ill try the reinstall of Gnome Drk, uhmmm, how do I do that?
[12:26] <samitheberber> slashdot: just press enter
[12:27] <slashdot> when i press enter lok
[12:27] <slashdot> WARNING: Please enter a valid installation path.
[12:27] <Drk_Guy> sudo apt-get install gdm ubuntu-desktop
[12:27] <RoundyT1> adamonline46, i only use one actual file in /etc/apache2/sites-available....that's where i edit like my subdomains like.... test.google.com or whatever.
[12:27] <m0> Hello, I am wondering why does KDE apps work on a GNOME interface?
[12:27] <MrElendig> dsnyders:try sigterm first
[12:27] <Nevhood> MrElendig: where can i find the fglrx driver?
[12:27] <Shin_Gouki> !codecs
[12:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:27] <daan> Nevhood: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide
[12:28] <SF100> Drk I just did that and thats when it also reinstalled alsa-utils and  linux-sound-base
[12:28] <samitheberber> slashdot: Write there the path to firefox
[12:28] <Nevhood> daan: thanks for the help
[12:28] <samitheberber> slashdot: /usr/lib/firefox
[12:28] <Drk_Guy> That's cool SF100, try playing any system sound now
[12:28] <slashdot> ok
[12:28] <adamonline46> RoundyT1: Okay.  I've got some googling to do... ty!
[12:28] <numus> anyone able to install java for firefox in linux
[12:28] <numus> i did wha tthe webstie said and no luck
[12:29] <MrElendig> !java
[12:29] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[12:29] <kbrosnan_> slashdot: you need to have write permisssion to that folder, else it will fail
[12:29] <RoundyT1> adamonline46, you can ask more if you want, i hate when i don't get my full answer...haha. ???
[12:29] <ariel_> #ubuntu-es
[12:29] <dsnyders> MrElendig, would that just be kill processid?
[12:29] <slashdot> E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.10-pitfdll
[12:29] <m0> hello, how do I find out what Wireless card I have ?
[12:29] <SF100> Drk nothing :( and when I try to switch Sound Playback to ALSA and hit test I get : audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Could not open resource for writing.
[12:29] <m0> what is the command ? pc*** ?
[12:29] <kbrosnan_> numus: any clue where things got messed up? what version of java, firefox?
[12:30] <m1r> m0 , lspci
[12:30] <slashdot> i still can't watcch from youtube :S
[12:30] <m0> mlr: thank you
[12:30] <slashdot> i need to install flashplayer
[12:30] <ramza3> is there something like window manger where I can find lockedup tasks and kill them.  I am using htop but still can't tell what is going on
[12:31] <adamonline46> RoundyT1: Well, thank you!  hehheh... Alright, well, I'll have two sites hosted off one box... I believe that's virtual hosting... How would I specify which url points to which subdirectory within www-data?
[12:31] <slashdot> can some1 help me a ?
[12:31] <MrElendig> dsnyders: yes, sigterm is the default
[12:31] <m1r> slashdot, try google :: easy ubuntu
[12:31] <kbrosnan_> slashdot: type about:plugins in the address bar
[12:32] <Bacon|ubuntu> How do I mount my hda1 hdd?
[12:32] <kbrosnan_> slashdot: of firefox, is there anything called flash listed?
[12:32] <slashdot> Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Macromedia's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player.
[12:32] <RoundyT1> adamonline46, check the other window
[12:32] <slashdot> i cant watch
[12:32] <SF100> slashdot try this link it helped me http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[12:32] <Bacon|ubuntu> How do I mount my hda1 hdd?
[12:32] <slashdot> what to do to i watch videos ?
[12:32] <slashdot> a
[12:32] <numus> i have done that
[12:32] <numus> still doesn't work
[12:33] <adamonline46> RoundyT1: I only see this one and chanserv :)
[12:33] <dsnyders> MrElendig, OK, it's stopped.  Hopefully without damage
[12:33] <dsnyders> MrElendig, thanks.
[12:33] <numus> i installed the pack and still java isn't working
[12:33] <SF100> and  slashdot I believe you need java too
[12:33] <RoundyT1> adamonline46, ah, its cause you or i aren't registered ... lol well forget that cause im lazy...anyways. one sec...let me get my server up and show you my example.
[12:34] <adamonline46> Alright, sweet!
[12:34] <kbrosnan> SF100: no, that will only confuse him
[12:34] <Drk_Guy> Slashdot, the repository's Java doesn't work that well
[12:34] <Drk_Guy> I suggest you dl the OFFICIAL java version from the site and pm me for instructions
[12:34] <SF100> kbrosnan sorry didnt mean to confuse him
[12:34] <MrElendig> dsnyders: i hope you did a backup first, because it's not always safe
[12:35] <nomis_82> how to  "recompile your ati_remote module with the key codes < 255 " ??
[12:35] <Nevhood> daan: i installed the fglrx driver
[12:35] <kbrosnan> Drk_Guy: slashdot does not need java numus needs java
[12:35] <SF100> Drk I dont know if you caught this before....nothing on the sys sounds :( and when I try to switch Sound Playback to ALSA and hit test I get : audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Could not open resource for writing.
[12:35] <dsnyders> MrElendig, I don't have the room to back it up.
[12:35] <Nevhood> daan: but the open GL vendor is Mesa
[12:35] <Drk_Guy> Then Numus, pm me
[12:35] <Nevhood> daan: and it's apparently supposed to be ATI
[12:35] <RoundyT1> adamonline46, holy crap, wow i guess i don't just have one...haha. i have sudoaptget.com registered...
[12:35] <Rynoo> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[12:35] <MrElendig> dsnyders: you shoud never run defrag without a backup
[12:35] <daan> Nevhood: where did you get that?
[12:35] <Rynoo> anyone know how to fix that?
[12:35] <MrElendig> if you care for the data
[12:35] <Drk_Guy> I have the VERY LATEST Java 6.1 up and running
[12:36] <dsnyders> MrElendig, Yeah, I know.  However, when you don't have the room, you don't have the room.
[12:36] <Nevhood> daan: from the site you sent me
[12:36] <Nevhood> daan: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide
[12:36] <MrElendig> dsnyders: why ext2 btw? ext3 is safer, faster, and don't need to defrag
[12:36] <daan> Nevhood: yes i got that
[12:36] <daan> Nevhood: fglrxinfo right?
[12:36] <RoundyT1> adamonline46, so in my /etc/apache2/sites-available/ directory i have 1 file for each subdomain like test.sudoaptget.com
[12:36] <Nevhood> daan: right
[12:36] <daan> Nevhood: what does it say by OpenGL renderer string
[12:37] <adamonline46> RoundyT1: Alright...
[12:37] <dsnyders> MrElendig, No particular reason.  ext2 was the default that the partitioner put on the drive.
[12:37] <Nevhood> daan: Mesa GLX Indirect
[12:37] <RoundyT1> adamonline46, so maybe...this isn't what you're looking for ... lemme just pastebin a virtual host file real quik
[12:37] <numus> /message drk_guy hi
[12:37] <daan> Nevhood: guess something went wrong then...
[12:38] <Nevhood> daan: guess so... should i just try again?
[12:38] <adamonline46> Alright, cool!
[12:38] <numus> drk_guy
[12:38] <numus> i can't find your name on the list
[12:38] <adamonline46> RoundyT1: Alright, cool!
[12:38] <MrElendig> dsnyders: you shoud convert to ext3
[12:38] <daan> Nevhood: not yet
[12:38] <MrElendig> there is no reason at all to use ext2 now adays
[12:39] <SF100> numus he is now Drk_avenger
[12:39] <kitche> MrElendig: so there is no use for ext3 either then?
[12:39] <numus> ahh so i did send it to teh right person
[12:39] <Nevhood> daan: i think i might have found the problem, let me see
[12:39] <numus> i have done all that those websites say
[12:39] <numus> and it still doesn't work
[12:39] <RoundyT1> wow slow pastebin.
[12:39] <daan> Nevhood: ok
[12:39] <itrebal> I've just installed Ubuntu onto my laptop and am trying to
[12:39] <daan> Nevhood: you did Method 1 I presume
[12:39] <adamonline46> hmm
[12:40] <Nevhood> daan: yes i did
[12:40] <Bacon|ubuntu> I cant access my home folder
[12:40] <Bacon|ubuntu> wtf...
[12:40] <Little`Bubble> Hi there
[12:40] <adamonline46> So if I say sudo useradd -Gwww-data adam, then I should be able to modify the information in www-data as user adam, no?
[12:40] <RoundyT1> adamonline46, one sec haha, i'll find a better pastebin
[12:40] <Bacon|ubuntu> How do I get to it through terminal?
[12:40] <Nevhood> daan: i'm going to reboot and see what happens
[12:40] <adamonline46> RoundyT1: Alright, np!
[12:41] <itrebal> setup the wireless internet; I'm not sure what steps to take to set it up (unfortunately I have to rebooot to Windows every time I need to get help, what would you suggest I do?
[12:41] <RoundyT1> there http://pastebin.ca/611441
[12:41] <stefg> !wifi | itrebal
[12:41] <ubotu> itrebal: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:42] <itrebal> thanks
[12:42] <RoundyT1> adamonline46, so maybe that can get you started i hope...?
[12:43] <RoundyT1> adamonline46, its really simple compared to what ubuntu automatically sets up in it...i was told its less mess and more understandable when you have it simple like the example.
[12:43] <numus> hmm vnc doesn't like it when you switch workspaces
[12:44] <adamonline46> RoundyT1: Alright.  That looks quite a bit more simple than the default on that's in there...  I think I can manage with that though, looks straghtforward enough... So how would I add a second subdomain or url to it?
[12:44] <Sonicadvance1> Holy fuck
[12:44] <__lester> lol
[12:44] <RoundyT1> lol wtf?!
[12:44] <numus> Drk_avenger you there?
[12:44] <ticnailer69> does anyone know how to use xarchiver?
[12:44] <RoundyT1> Did the world just come to an end?
[12:44] <n2diy> the mem test on the install is memtest86 right?
[12:44] <RoundyT1> haha.
[12:44] <__lester> the kubrick seems go down
[12:44] <Neil3> mmm netsplit
[12:44] <jmchaffie> is there a cahnnel for linux second life questions?
[12:44] <linuxgx> whats the best os x dock clone?
[12:45] <jmchaffie> I'm having graphic issues with my new video card...
[12:45] <tont> I have installed Virtual Box. .then to have added my customer to the group vboxusers I have restart the session. .when i have re-entered does not work to me more audio :* ... what has happened?
[12:45] <numus> ok anyone else sucessfully get java working in ubuntu?
[12:45] <PriceChild> !netsplit
[12:45] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[12:45] <stefg> itrebal: if you can, put the machine on wired net, and see if you have internet there. it's hard to install wlan drivers offline
[12:45] <jmchaffie> numus.. yes
[12:45] <RoundyT1> adamonline46, like example being?
[12:45] <Neil3> numus, yep
[12:45] <numus> how
[12:45] <__lester> numus: yep
[12:45] <numus> i did what that website said
[12:45] <ticnailer69> does anyone know how to use Xarchiver?
[12:45] <RoundyT1> adamonline46, like test2.google.com?
[12:45] <__lester> numus: just apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[12:45] <RoundyT1> adamonline46, or like php.google.com
[12:45] <NigelS> linuxgx: avant window navigator is making progress, requires a composite backend
[12:45] <RoundyT1> ??
[12:45] <numus> i did that
[12:45] <adamonline46> RoundyT1: Haha, weird...  Well, I can see how you'd define the one domain's subdirectory... But if I need two domains routed accordingly, how would I add the other one?
[12:45] <numus> still didn't work in firefox
[12:46] <numus> says it is installed
[12:46] <unagi> how can i shrink my ubuntu partition?
[12:47] <linuxgx> will Beryl work?
[12:47] <jmchaffie> numus did you use the terminal commands? or did you just try to download and install a package from the web?
[12:47] <kbrosnan> numus: you need to install the plugin, i belive it is a seperate package
[12:47] <__lester> numus: you have to copy the plugin
[12:47] <adamonline46> RoundyT1: Yeah, like if I want www.website1.com to go to /var/www/site1, that's clear... But then if I want www.website2.com to go to /var/www/site2, how would I add another vhost entry?
[12:47] <RoundyT1> adamonline46, add another file in the sites-available directory named "example.google.com" and pretty much use the example as a "chalkboard" and just replace my directories with yours...?
[12:47] <numus> terminal
[12:47] <ticnailer69> does anyone know what Xarchiver is?
[12:47] <kbrosnan> numus: or you can symlink it your self
[12:47] <numus> i did copy the plugin
[12:47] <numus> oratleast i did waht that website said to do
[12:47] <Nevhood> daan: i fixed the problem
[12:47] <Nevhood> daan: a system restart was all i needed
[12:54] <josh__> Hello
[12:54] <jmchaffie> numus: yes, like others said, the plugin is seperate from just java is itself. I didn't understand you needed thep lugin for firefox.
[12:54] <kbrosnan> numus: you can't copy the plugin to the firefox plugins directory
[12:54] <adamonline46> RoundyT1: ooh,  okay, so a separate file for each :)  Sounds easy enough!
[12:54] <numus> how do i do it then
[12:54] <kbrosnan> numus: it causes problems
[12:54] <__lester> numus: sudo cp /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.6.0/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/
[12:54] <unagi> anyone know how to shrink a ubuntu partition
[12:54] <__lester> and restart firefox
[12:54] <RoundyT1> adamonline46, that's what i was told is better for trouble-shooting.
[12:54] <Bacon|ubuntu> I need some help
[12:54] <PriceChild> unagi, boot a live cd and use its gparted to do it
[12:54] <__lester> unagi: get gparted
[12:54] <PriceChild> unagi, you can't resize a partition in use
[12:54] <kbrosnan> __lester: please use ln -s instead of cp
[12:54] <ticnailer69> I can only download from the command line b/c when I get the program in the .tar file I dont really know to do with it......can anyone help me with this?
[12:54] <RoundyT1> adamonline46, however, you can just add it right below in the "default" file...
[12:54] <unagi> ah theres the key PriceChild
[12:54] <numus> _lester had to alter that
[12:54] <__lester> kbrosnan: doesn't matter
[12:54] <unagi> does the ubuntu live cd have gparted on it already?
[12:54] <numus> my localation is different
[12:54] <PriceChild> unagi, yes
[12:54] <adamonline46> RoundyT1: Alright... Now, if you have another few minutes... I was just told that the base web directory was www-data's home folder; what's all this I see about /var/www?
[12:55] <RoundyT1> what the crap?
[12:55] <jmchaffie> anyone ... I'm suddenly having instant crash issued with second life with a brand new nVidia card... best channel to ask in?
[12:55] <__lester> shit
[12:55] <unagi> wth was that
[12:55] <Bacon|ubuntu> when I mount hda to a folder, it wont let me access it
[12:55] <numus> someone has a ton fo bots
[12:55] <PriceChild> !netsplit | RoundyT1 unagi
[12:55] <__lester> Bacon|ubuntu: are you sure you have the permission?
[12:55] <kbrosnan> __lester: there are reported issues with having the plugin copyed to the plugins folder
[12:55] <unagi> ah crap....i didnt bring blank cds with me for my mandriva
[12:55] <RoundyT1> simmons.freenode.irc.freenode.net doesn't like those people
[12:55] <__lester> kbrosnan: i don't have
[12:55] <adamonline46> RoundyT1: I'll prolly just remove the default, and add two simple files like your example...
[12:56] <numus> _lester it still isn't working.. i copied it like you said
[12:56] <josh__> Where is grub.conf supposed to be located?  I cant seem to find it in /etc
[12:56] <__lester> numus: have you restarted the fox?
[12:56] <numus> _lester: yes
[12:56] <PriceChild> RoundyT1, unagi numus netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[12:56] <tont> I have installed Virtual Box. .then to have added my customer to the group vboxusers I have restart the session. .when i have re-entered does not work to me more audio :* ... what has happened?
[12:56] <__lester> numus: look at about:plugins
[12:56] <adamonline46> RoundyT1: Did you see my last question, before the netsplit?
[12:56] <__lester> are there any mentions about java?
[12:56] <RoundyT1> PriceChild, what was that? i didn't oh....nvm haha. sorry its just a wonderful view of flooding-ness.
[12:56] <Bacon|ubuntu> someone help me out?
[12:56] <sn0w> hey what does "skip pager" mean in the compiz settings thing
[12:56] <RoundyT1> adamonline46,nope
[12:56] <numus> isn't in there
[12:56] <numus> but i copied it like you said
[12:56] <PriceChild> RoundyT1, read what i just told you
[12:56] <Bacon|ubuntu> this is rediculous
[12:56] <RoundyT1> PriceChild, yeah, just read it
[12:56] <__lester> strange
[01:02] <adamonline46> RoundyT1: I said: Alright... Now, if you have another few minutes... I was just told that the base web directory was www-data's home folder; what's all this I see about /var/www?
[01:02] <PriceChild> Bacon|ubuntu, what is your question?
[01:02] <stefg> !fstab | Bacon|ubuntu
[01:02] <unagi> PriceChild: do you happen to know if mandriva has gparted as well?
[01:02] <con-man> !netsplit
[01:06] <PriceChild> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[01:06] <RoundyT1> adamonline46, well www-data i guess is like the user that accesses the files/directories within the www root folder.
[01:06] <PriceChild> unagi, I haven't a clue
[01:06] <con-man> !netsplit
[01:06] <unagi> ok ty
[01:06] <__lester> !fstab
[01:06] <vox754> unagi, gparted is a linux application
[01:06] <con-man> !netsplit
[01:06] <teer2> Anyone bought a scanner recently and had success with SANE?  Looking for a good recommendation for a low-end USB scanner.
[01:06] <con-man> :(
[01:06] <__lester> !fstab | __lester
[01:06] <stefg> FOLKS; WE HAVE NETSPLIT, SO RELAX AND ENJOY THE SHOW
[01:06] <PriceChild> con-man, it didn't work the first time... ubotu is catching up... please stop :)
[01:06] <unagi> vox754 mandriva is a linux distro
[01:06] <numus> going to restart ubuntu
[01:06] <__lester> numus: why?
[01:06] <vox754> unagi, impressive your skillz
[01:12] <adamonline46> RoundyT1: So, the www root folder is actually /var/www? And www-data is just a user that's allowed to access it?
[01:12] <con-man> !netsplit
[01:12] <RoundyT1> adamonline46, you'll want to look in your var/www/ that's where all of the stuff in ubuntu for websites should be installed.
[01:12] <unagi> i thought we were just stating the obvious
[01:12] <PriceChild> con-man, Please STOP it.
[01:12] <__lester> this will never stop
[01:12] <RoundyT1> adamonline46, from what i've seen and read yes.
[01:12] <PriceChild> RoundyT1, /var/www not var/www
[01:12] <con-man> PriceChild: is ubotu even in the channel?
[01:12] <inazad> MrElendig, but I have closed the file.. the modifications were done 1-2 days ago
[01:12] <RoundyT1> adamonline46, i mean /var/www
[01:12] <PriceChild> con-man, yes. Now lets move on please.
[01:12] <con-man> PriceChild: or did it go in the split?
[01:12] <unagi> does ubuntu have iso burning capabilites built in?
[01:12] <__lester> does anyone know how to install nls'es to eclipse?
[01:12] <MrElendig> yay 900people rejoined simultanious
[01:12] <__lester> unagi: yes gnome has
[01:12] <PriceChild> unagi, you might want to install gnomebaker for a nice app to guide you through things.
[01:12] <vox754> con-man, PriceChild said there is huge traffic so be patient while things stabilize
[01:12] <Sascha|XP> She's back
[01:12] <Sascha|XP> NetSplit over
[01:12] <PriceChild> unagi, but right click > burn to iso will work fine
[01:12] <PriceChild> Sascha|XP, it is not over
[01:12] <GMWeezel> are there any borderless terminal emulators in the repository?
[01:12] <con-man> vox754: I know what a netsplit is, actually im kinda enjoying the show right now
[01:12] <inazad> MrElendig, but I have closed the file.. the modifications were done 1-2 days ago
[01:12] <unagi> ok i wasnt sure if it would actually burn the image or put the iso on the disk.....dvds are expensive =)
[01:12] <TaJMoX> WAH
[01:12] <Sascha|XP> PriceChild: Ok my bad.
[01:12] <__lester> FUCK
[01:12] <stefg> !fstab | Bacon|ubuntu
[01:12] <PriceChild> __lester, please stop swearing.
[01:12] <con-man> I <3 netsplit!
[01:12] <daan> aahhhh
[01:12] <__lester> this chanell takes too much traffic
[01:12] <PriceChild> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[01:12] <PriceChild> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[01:12] <PriceChild> Jun 01 17:03:47 <wols_> djieno: yes. netsplit. freenode server timed out. I already told you what you have to do
[01:12] <nullboy> heret|c: YAY
[01:12] <inazad> MrElendig, but I have closed the file.. the modifications were done 1-2 days ago
[01:12] <PriceChild> heret|c, nullboy offtopic discussion to -offtopic please as I have already requested.
[01:12] <oszy7> 
[01:12] <Sonicadvance1> now I have no money and you have
[01:12] <Tribes> oh no
[01:12] <Sonicadvance1> holu shit
[01:12] <samwize> yeah!
[01:12] <Tribes> the pardy is over
[01:12] <PriceChild> Sonicadvance1, please watch your language.
[01:12] <LukeEkblad> I have a problem, I installed limewire vut when i open it, its just blank white
[01:12] <Tribes> damnit^^
[01:12] <nalioth> let us watch our language, please
[01:12] <gordonjcp> heret|c: you're tuned to - The Netsplit Channel
[01:12] <PriceChild> Tribes, it is not over. and please stay on topic
[01:12] <unagi> LukeEkblad: do you have beryl installed?
[01:12] <chuck> jesus
[01:12] <con-man> omg
[01:12] <dcordes> ^^
[01:12] <Sonicadvance1> christ
[01:12] <Liquinn> fuck
[01:12] <LukeEkblad> unagi:   Yesh
[01:12] <Sascha|XP> this is crazy
[01:12] <gordonjcp> woah, wtf
[01:12] <PriceChild> Liquinn, Please watch your language.
[01:12] <vox754> I agree that it is an interesting phenomenon, just like aurora borealis
[01:12] <con-man> !ohmy | Liquinn
[01:12] <Liquinn> ok
[01:12] <gordonjcp> that's a big one
[01:12] <ST47> ...
[01:12] <unagi> LukeEkblad: set the window manager to something else
[01:12] <PriceChild> Offtopic chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:12] <Liquinn> dam then :)
[01:12] <nullboy> my god it's full of stars!!!
[01:12] <adamonline46> RoundyT1: I gotcha!  Well, thanks a ton for the help!  I'm working on my first vhost definition right now...  Wait wait... Is www-user the 'user' that visitors to my site will be 'using'?  I remember in thttpd there was something like that... Or is www-data just a user for me to log on with, that has all the permissions I'll need to modify my web content?
[01:12] <PriceChild> con-man, Please leave the bot alone!
[01:12] <inazad> MrElendig, private plz
[01:12] <LukeEkblad> unagi:   ok, thanks :)\
[01:12] <Drk_Guy> !patience
[01:12] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:12] <Lo_Pan> nullboy: dave?
[01:12] <Drk_Guy> Ubotu is up
[01:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is up - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:12] <nullboy> Lo_Pan: nope
[01:12] <con-man> the bot is back
[01:12] <Lo_Pan> :(
[01:12] <Skrypt> Who here is a volunteer? (Just want to thank you <3)
[01:12] <n2diy> PriceChild: I think the bot broke with the split, at least it did last night.
[01:12] <unagi> !iso
[01:12] <numus> _lester
[01:12] <ubotu> Liquinn: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:12] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[01:12] <numus> _lester it still isn't showing up as a plugin
[01:12] <unagi> !mountpoint
[01:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mountpoint - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:12] <n2diy> PriceChild: nope, its up
[01:12] <RoundyT1> adamonline46, good question, www-data will need permissions in order to communicate with like databases and stuff i believe.
[01:12] <Skrypt> Guys, have any recommendations for what I can do to make Ubuntu 7.04 w/ GNOME (Fiesty) prettier? GUI wise that is?
[01:12] <Lo_Pan> nullboy: i thought you might be dave bowman
[01:12] <gordonjcp> crikey
[01:12] <stefg> !themes | Skrypt
[01:12] <knix> Skrypt: Get a new theme? :P
[01:12] <knix> clearlooks/tango!
[01:12] <MrElendig> Skrypt: gnome-look.org
[01:12] <gordonjcp> it's noisy and it's staying noisy
[01:12] <Drk_Guy> Three NetSplits and counting!!!!
[01:12] <vox754> Skrypt, go to the forums, there is a section about making it prettier, tips and tricks and themes and so
[01:12] <knix> and install openbox
[01:12] <knix> :D
[01:12] <Drk_Guy> :)
[01:12] <ubotu> Skrypt: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[01:12] <gordonjcp> wtf is wrong with freenode tonight?
[01:12] <Skrypt> MrElendig, aright I'll check that out.
[01:12] <Liquinn> dunno
[01:12] <numus> what is the command to rename
[01:12] <PriceChild> !ohmy | gordonjcp
[01:12] <gordonjcp> numus: mv
[01:12] <ubotu> gordonjcp: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:12] <nullboy> numus: mv
[01:12] <MrElendig> numus: mv
[01:12] <Skrypt> Themes are just different color schemes though, aren't they?
[01:12] <alexnick> Hey guys, I need help! Add/Remove sits there doing nothing when I try to install, same with synaptic
[01:12] <Liquinn> heh
[01:12] <dcordes> !fiesty
[01:12] <alexnick> what should I do?
[01:12] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - For BitTorrent downloads, see !Torrents
[01:12] <Liquinn> dam busy
[01:12] <Liquinn> ;p
[01:12] <gordonjcp> PriceChild: ?
[01:12] <chuck> hell
[01:12] <Liquinn> yeh
[01:12] <Liquinn> 00:00 :D
[01:12] <chuck> !ohmy
[01:12] <adamonline46> RoundyT1: Oh okay, that tidbit might be the key to my next objective! haha... Alright, well, I'm gonna continue on... Thanks again for seein' my questions through!
[01:12] <Liquinn> omg
[01:12] <Liquinn> midnight
[01:12] <gordonjcp> PriceChild: you "ohmy"ed me?
[01:12] <Skrypt> I remember when I used Mandriva forever ago that the GUI was pretty snazzy.
[01:12] <Skrypt> !themes
[01:12] <PriceChild> !offtopic > Liquinn (see the pm from ubotu)
[01:12] <vox754> gordonjcp, wtf is not allowed...
[01:12] <brunne1> I can't connect to my wireless network from ubuntu even though it connects fine to other wireless networks and connects fine to my network.  Why would it work fine in windows but not in linux?
[01:12] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[01:12] <Drk_Guy> gordon, he didn't pwn, or won you
[01:12] <Drk_Guy> Chill
[01:12] <gordonjcp> vox754: why?
[01:12] <Liquinn> err, thanks
[01:12] <numus> can anyone tell me why java is listed in my /usr/lib/firefox/plugins folder but it isn't listed on about:plugins
[01:12] <numus> is it because there isn't an xpt?
[01:12] <Drk_Guy> numus how you installed it+
[01:12] <RoundyT1> adamonline46, what are you trying to setup ... just curious.
[01:12] <Drk_Guy> ?
[01:12] <PriceChild> numus, have you installed sun-java#-plugin ?
[01:12] <Drk_Guy> I am an expert installing Java in Feisty
[01:12] <numus> dark_guy about 10 different ways.. including apt-get
[01:12] <Drk_Guy> Apt-get DOESN'T WORK
[01:12] <gordonjcp> Drk_Guy: eh?
[01:12] <vox754> gordonjcp, because we, the community don't want to. No, the truth is it was just a warning because other guys started the swearing.
[01:12] <kbrosnan> numus: which java is in your path
[01:12] <daan> Drk_Guy: how so
[01:12] <Drk_Guy> For Java, gordon 
[01:12] <Liquinn> I'm gonna get going
[01:12] <Liquinn> cya all
[01:12] <PriceChild> numus, have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java ?
[01:12] <gordonjcp> vox754: so why have a dig at me?
[01:12] <kbrosnan> numus: java -version i think
[01:12] <numus> kbrosnan what do you mean
[01:12] <numus> pricechild yes
[01:12] <gordonjcp> vox754: particularly since I didn't swear
[01:12] <Drk_Guy> Daan, Aptitude install the Blackdown Java
[01:12] <PriceChild> numus, that explains how to install the firefox plugin
[01:12] <numus> say
[01:12] <Drk_Guy> My method installs the Officiall Java 6.1
[01:12] <numus> java version "1.5.0_11"
[01:12] <numus> i did that pricechild.. guess what.. didn't work
[01:12] <daan> Drk_Guy: eum I don't think so
[01:12] <kbrosnan> numus: that is the issue
[01:12] <PriceChild> numus, well then you did something wrong...?
[01:12] <kitche> Drk_Guy: Java 6.1 doesn't exist
[01:12] <PriceChild> numus, and we should work out what and fix it...?
[01:12] <Drk_Guy> Java 6 Update 1
[01:12] <Drk_Guy> Kitche
[01:12] <Skrypt> Ok, for the GUI, I'd like the retractable bar at the bottom of the screen. How do I enable that in GNOME?
[01:12] <gordonjcp> is the net still splitting or are there all these joins and leaves for some other reason?
[01:12] <PriceChild> Skrypt, right click the panel and int he options you can make it autohide
[01:12] <MrElendig> Skrypt: autohide?
[01:12] <numus> i am so lost now
[01:12] <Drk_Guy> 4 NetSplits and counting!!!
[01:12] <Drk_Guy> :)
[01:12] <Drk_Guy> Numus i'll pm you
[01:12] <Drk_Guy> Stay tuned
[01:12] <MrElendig> Skrypt: or a more narrow one
[01:12] <gordonjcp> Drk_Guy: you should ask for your money back
[01:12] <Drk_Guy> Nor Ubuntu or Java are for money dood
[01:12] <unagi> i paid 100 bucks for my ubuntu
[01:12] <Drk_Guy> I downloaded my copy from the www.java.com site
[01:12] <unagi> what do you mean its free
[01:12] <ubunut> u got ripped
[01:12] <adamonline46> RoundyT1: Well, I have a web server, and a counter-strike server... I already have my site working on THTTPD, on an old pentuim 2...  But I just got a new game server donated, so I'm taking the old game server and converting it to the webserver... Then the p2 webserver will be my new router :D  Anyway, I'm branching out this time... Gonna try and get CGI and SQLite working so I can run real-time, detailed stats for my clients, and ha
[01:12] <Drk_Guy> Unagi, you got owned
[01:12] <unagi> linux is free???
[01:12] <Drk_Guy> lol
[01:12] <alexnick> linux is free!
[01:12] <mwe> unagi buy from me next time, only $90
[01:12] <daan> he's just joking guys
[01:12] <unagi> what did i pay for then!
[01:12] <ubunut> they sent me four cd's and 2 stickers
[01:12] <ubunut> totally free
[01:12] <Drk_Guy> Linux AND GNU/Linux will ALWAYS be free
[01:12] <MrElendig> linux is free as in freedom
[01:12] <numus> sigh
[01:12] <vox754> haha...
[01:12] <Sonicadvance1> freedom isn't free
[01:12] <RoundyT1> adamonline46, nice nice.
[01:12] <MrElendig> not free as in free beer
[01:12] <vox754> I love free beer
[01:12] <Sonicadvance1> freedom costs money to run and taste that cold beer
[01:12] <MrElendig> vox754: http://www.freebeer.org/
[01:12] <m1r> does ubuntu ship with free beer included ?
[01:12] <PIPBoy_> im having a sound card problem can anyone help me out?
[01:12] <PIPBoy_> i have no sound :(
[01:12] <gordonjcp> m1r: no, but it can help with free beer
[01:12] <mwe> !sound | PIPBoy_
[01:12] <ubotu> PIPBoy_: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:12] <Drk_Guy> I got mine with 2 Heinekens, m1r
[01:12] <alexnick> ubuntu won't update, you guys :[
[01:12] <gordonjcp> I use Tomboy notes to track my fermentation
[01:12] <unagi> alexnick you have to pay for the update
[01:12] <robtp> does anyone remember what the fix is when gnome takes forever to start?
[01:12] <daan> unagi: don't feed him false info
[01:12] <PIPBoy_> mwe: thanks :)
[01:12] <Sonicadvance1> Stabbing it with a fresh install seems to work every so often
[01:12] <dcordes> unagi, don't spread bolox
[01:12] <unagi> lol sorry
[01:12] <vox754> PriceChild, please ban us all since the netsplit has taken or brains out
[01:12] <daan> alexnick: what's wrong
[01:12] <alexnick> ubuntu freezes on me when I use update manager
[01:12] <chohmann> alexnick: is it possible that the update manager is orphaned in the background?
[01:12] <Drk_Guy> lol vox
[01:12] <angel> untu has a sound grabber that can record sound from my desktop?
[01:12] <DJ-BigBen> how much memory does ubuntu take?
[01:12] <daan> alexnick: have you tried apt-get
[01:12] <ubunut> my offfical disk say 256
[01:12] <daan> DJ-BigBen: depends
[01:12] <DJ-BigBen> i have 477RAM
[01:12] <Drk_Guy> DJ_BB, idk, but i can say my pc runs A LOT faster in Ubuntu
[01:12] <gordonjcp> angel: there's Sound Recorder but it's a bit pony; use something like Audacity if you want to edit the sound you've captured
[01:12] <daan> DJ-BigBen: That's anough
[01:12] <ubunut> yep
[01:12] <DJ-BigBen> ok
[01:12] <angel> we're can i get this application?
[01:12] <gordonjcp> angel: look in synaptic
[01:12] <daan> how long is a netsplit supposed to take?
[01:12] <angel> i have something sound recorder but its doesnt record any it said error parameter
[01:12] <floppyears> hi
[01:12] <daan> floppyears: hi
[01:12] <floppyears> could you guys recommend me an rss reader but for the shell ?
[01:12] <Drk_Guy> Daan, depends on the kind of the server
[01:12] <gordonjcp> yeah
[01:12] <daan> Drk_Guy: ok
[01:12] <chohmann> alexnick: goto Menu>System>Administration>System Monitor. Select the processes tab. If it's listed there, rightclick it and select kill process
[01:12] <gordonjcp> and also what's happening to it
[01:12] <tck> DJ-BigBen, desktop cd is min 192mb
[01:12] <tck> alternate can go lower
[01:12] <gordonjcp> daan: something as noisy and messy as this is rare ;-)
[01:12] <daan> gordonjcp: ah ok, it's my third day and I was wondering about that
[01:12] <chohmann> alexnick: that sometimes happens to me if I click on the update icon in my taskbar more than once.
[01:12] <sirus> anyone play with eggdrops?
[01:12] <m1r> whatt would be more appropriate, ship ubuntu with free beer or free beer with ubuntu ? :)
[01:12] <PriceChild> !offtopic > m1r (see msg from ubotu)
[01:12] <gordonjcp> daan: often there's a notice from the freenode staffers if something mad is happening
[01:12] <daan> m1r: both would be good i guess
[01:12] <Catsceo> where do I find my MAC address in Ubuntu?
[01:12] <Dusk_> how can i get a new ip adress on usb adsl modem???
[01:12] <m1r> ye, sry pricechild
[01:12] <Drk_Guy> Hey, why The system monitor reports Compiz is sleeping if it's aint installed on the machine
[01:12] <Port22> DCC SEND "KEYLOGGER" 0 0 0
[01:12] <gordonjcp> Dusk_: depends on your ADSL provider
[01:12] <astro76> Catsceo, ifconfig
[01:13] <Catsceo> ok, brb
[01:13] <flami> Hi , how can i submit a album to Freedb with kaudiocreator ? I cant seem to find a submit button or something similar. ( or what tool should i use ? )
[01:13] <Dusk_> gordonjcp, i have dynamic ip
[01:13] <daan> gordonjcp: this classifies as mad i guess
[01:13] <Dusk_> gordonjcp, i want to have a new ip when i reconnect
[01:13] <gordonjcp> daan: honestly I've never seen it as bad as this
[01:13] <gordonjcp> daan: not so I can remember anyway
[01:14] <daan> gordonjcp: ok, how long have you veen here then :)
[01:14] <daan> gordonjcp: veen = been
[01:14] <pedro> please, when I run glxinfo I get a strange error "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".//Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual"
[01:14] <alexnick_> okay guys i'm back
[01:14] <alexnick_> ubuntu crashed
[01:14] <alexnick_> so how do I fix update manager?
[01:14] <Drk_Guy> PriceChild, you kicked someone because of an exploit?
[01:14] <daan> alexnick_: have you tried apt-get
[01:14] <gordonjcp> daan: #ubuntu? a few months; freenode, about five or six years; the Linux community, about 15 years
[01:14] <PriceChild> !dcc > Drk_Guy
[01:14] <alexnick_> nope I haven't
[01:14] <Dusk_> pedro, you couldn't install video card drivers
[01:14] <alexnick_> how do I use it?
[01:14] <buby> nd
[01:14] <daan> gordonjcp: ok check
[01:14] <Fyda> Hello, I'm having an issue with ACPI events and the GNOME panel volume applet. On my old user (created under Edgy), the laptop buttons for Vol Up/Down/Mute don't trigger the volume OSD, but on a new user (created after upgrading to Feisty), they do.
[01:15] <Akifemre> Dusk_, if you have dynamic ip, you already have a new ip when you reconnect
[01:15] <PriceChild> Drk_Guy, if i didn't, then that single part would ahve been a hundred... flooding our channel.
[01:15] <Drk_Guy> Ah!
[01:15] <daan> alexnick_: go to a terminal
[01:15] <alexnick_> terminal's open!
[01:15] <Fyda> I've checked /var/log/acpid while testing keypresses on both users. They run the same scripts under /etc/acpi but don't behave the same.
[01:15] <daan> alexnick_: and try: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:15] <alexnick_> okay, brb
[01:15] <pedro> Dusk_: but I've managed to install the nvidia-glx-legacy
[01:16] <gordonjcp> !dcc > gordonjcp
[01:16] <pedro> Dusk_: and I've changed xorg.conf to "nvidia"
[01:16] <gordonjcp> PriceChild: interesting
[01:17] <Fyda> Could it be a permissions issue? (I've read that root privs may be needed to successfully trigger ACPI event hotkeys.) Is there a package I should reconfigure using dpkg-reconfigure?
[01:17] <alexnick_> i'm going to go ahead and run dpkg --configure -a
[01:17] <Fathefner> hello how do i ummount a drive because when i try to unmount my own it says i need root
[01:17] <Drk_Guy> Pedro, messing up with X files isn't that good, believe me
[01:17] <daan> alexnick_: guess thats a good idea
[01:17] <ubuntu_> live cd is so cool
[01:17] <gordonjcp> Fathefner: can you right-click its icon and do "eject"?
[01:17] <Dusk_> pedro, as if i see the error, something's wrong
[01:18] <Drk_Guy> Ubuntu_, and wait to see the real thing
[01:18] <Dusk_> pedro, reinstall the drivers if you wish
[01:18] <Fathefner> no i am try to umount my harddrive
[01:18] <ubuntu_> i run the real thing lol
[01:18] <gordonjcp> Fathefner: hrm, the hard drive you're actually using?
[01:18] <ubuntu_> im just on live cd to resize my partition for mandriva
[01:18] <justdave> I'm on Ubuntu Edgy, with an nVidia GeForce 6200, and have an HDTV set hooked up to the machine... the manual for the TV says the native resolution is 1360x768, but that doesn't show up as a choice in the nvidia config tools.  Anyone know if there's a way to set it to that?
[01:18] <Fathefner> gordonjcp, no its a storage drive
[01:18] <justdave> 1280x768 is available, and works, but it's slightly fuzzy because the TV is trying to emulate it
[01:19] <gordonjcp> Fathefner: how are you trying to unmount it?
[01:19] <Fathefner> gordonjcp, right click
[01:19] <gordonjcp> Fathefner: you may have files still open on it
[01:20] <ubuntu_> does it take long to resize a 60gb partition to 30gb?
[01:20] <ubuntu_> because i dont see any progres =(
[01:20] <daan> ubuntu_: it can take some time yes
[01:20] <gordonjcp> justdave: I think it's possible with a certain amount of hand-tuning of xorg.conf
[01:20] <ubuntu_> k =)
[01:20] <daan> ubuntu_: are you using gparted?
[01:20] <ubuntu_> yes
[01:20] <Fathefner> gordonjcp, nope
[01:20] <gordonjcp> Fathefner: you *sure*?
[01:21] <Fathefner> gordonjcp, 100 percent
[01:21] <daan> ubuntu_: ok just let it do its work
[01:21] <ubuntu_> daan do you know alot about partitions etc?
[01:21] <gordonjcp> Fathefner: have you tried "sudo umount /path/to/drive"?
[01:21] <daan> ubuntu_: quite a bit yes
[01:21] <ubuntu_> if i decide to delete my vista partition what happens to that space?
[01:21] <ubuntu_> if i have 2 other partitions for linux
[01:21] <gordonjcp> ubuntu_: it just sits there until you assign it
[01:21] <pi3> does rm move to the trash bin?
[01:21] <daan> ubuntu_: it's unused
[01:21] <Chousuke> pi3: no
[01:22] <ubuntu_> so i can later equally add it to the other 2 ex3 partitions?
[01:22] <justdave> suppose I shouldn't come in here and ask while the kids are actually watching TV (mythtv on it) -- can't try it out yet. :)
[01:22] <pi3> Chousuke: ouch!, is there any parameter to?
[01:22] <Nevhood> daan: i got the driver working
[01:22] <vox754> someone stole my free beer
[01:22] <Nevhood> daan: but i still have graphical corruption
[01:22] <daan> Nevhood: GREAT :)
[01:22] <daan> Nevhood: :(
[01:22] <Chousuke> pi3: no, but you could use rm -i so that it confirms deletion
[01:22] <Nevhood> daan: haha almost there!
[01:22] <daan> ubuntu_: depends
[01:22] <ubuntu_> daan on?
[01:22] <Chousuke> pi3: or alias rm to rm -i so that it's automatic
[01:22] <daan> ubuntu_: the partition layout
[01:23] <pi3> Chousuke: how would I recursively remove all *.ini files?
[01:23] <ubuntu_> hrm....
[01:23] <ubuntu_> maybe ill just keep windows on here =(
[01:23] <Chousuke> pi3: hmm
[01:23] <pi3> Chousuke: yes, that would be better
[01:23] <daan> ubuntu_: you can allways resize on of the two
[01:23] <kr00lplatinum> anyone know how to install emerald or post a link?
[01:23] <Fathefner> gordonjcp, ok that unmounted them
[01:23] <ubuntu_> kr00lplatinum: just emerald or beryl and emerald
[01:23] <kr00lplatinum> ????
[01:23] <vox754> greg_g, you traitor, join/part rock
[01:23] <kr00lplatinum> one or the other?
[01:24] <Chousuke> pi3: try find . -name "*.ini" -exec echo "{}"\;
[01:24] <daan> ubuntu_: what is the order of the partitions?
[01:24] <Chousuke> that doesn't delete anything
[01:24] <Fathefner> when i right click from my computer and i set the mount point what do i do after that
[01:24] <Chousuke> it just echoes
[01:24] <ubuntu_> i installed ntfs first then shrank it and install ubuntu.....now im shrinking ubuntu and installing mandriva daan
[01:24] <PortugueseMan> kr00lplatinum, just do 'sudo aptitude install emerald'
[01:24] <gordonjcp> Fathefner: cool, but odd that it should do that
[01:24] <PortugueseMan> and it installs from the repositories
[01:24] <kr00lplatinum> thx
[01:24] <daan> ubuntu_: so ubuntu's in the middle?
[01:24] <ubuntu_> yes
[01:24] <Tru7h> This is probably more suited for #firefox, but nobody is even active in the channel, so I'll ask here. I have a PHP file I'm trying to open. When I open the file with firefox, it doesn't open the file, instead pops up a dialog asking what program to open it with. It was set to Firefox Web Browser, and I hit okay. Evidently it doesn't know how to open a PHP file because I get an infinite loop of it opening the file in itself over and over. 
[01:24] <numus> sigh
[01:24] <greg_g> vox754, it would be kinda neat to see hundreds of nicks go by on a netsplit, but, oh well
[01:24] <Skrypt> !themes
[01:25] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[01:25] <numus> !java
[01:25] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[01:25] <Chousuke> pi3: and if that seems to echo teh right files, you can change the echo command to rm
[01:25] <Tru7h> I stopped the loop, but I can't figure out how to open the PHP file
[01:25] <daan> ubuntu_: then you could remove the vista and resize the ubuntu to take that space
[01:25] <Skrypt> !changethemes
[01:25] <ubotu> To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[01:25] <Chousuke> pi3: I'm not sure if it's correct though
[01:25] <Chousuke> so be careful
[01:25] <ubuntu_> so ultimately one linux partition will be larger than the other
[01:25] <pi3> Chousuke: yes, thanks. Well I luckily had a backup of my music
[01:25] <ubuntu_> gparted is taking too long........lol
[01:26] <daan> ubuntu_: in the beginning yes, but you can ofcourse resize them to be the same but that'll take more time
[01:26] <Chousuke> pi3: backups are good for you :)
[01:26] <daan> ubuntu_: that's why i am always very careful about partitioning
[01:26] <ubuntu_> thats ok im not too entirely sure im going to remove vista........i guess im just thinking for the future.....i need mandriva to run Maya
[01:26] <vox754> greg_g, do you know if you can actually notice if you split? Because you did.
[01:26] <pi3> Chousuke: mainly if you are a nub with a terminal, and have write permissions
[01:27] <numus> ok i got the java plugin
[01:27] <ubuntu_> why do people make their linux look like windows =(
[01:27] <numus> where did it go so i can copy it
[01:27] <kr00lplatinum> PortugueseMan: how do i get it to run on the startup?
[01:27] <ubuntu_> i understand why people make it look like osx.....cuz thats what i did.....but windows???
[01:27] <daan> ubuntu_: can't Maya run in Ubuntu?
[01:27] <merzbow> hello ... I'm trying to install WoW ... I mounted each .iso to a different folder ... for example /1 /2 /3 and /4 .. I run install in /1 and when it says please insert disc 2 I can't do anything ... i click ok and nothing happens ...  any ideas?
[01:27] <Justi1> Hi, I am installing Ubuntu, and on the screen where I select the different screen resolutions for the X window system to use, I didn't select any aditional options.  Is there a way to add additional screen resolutions after the installation is complete, without re-running the installer?
[01:27] <daan> ubuntu_: to make the switch easier or they like the windows look
[01:27] <ubuntu_> daan ive installed it but it locks up the system when you push space bar......makes it hard to animate
[01:27] <Chousuke> pi3: they're always good!
[01:28] <greg_g> vox754, not sure i understand the question, and should we move our discussion somewhere else since it is off topic
[01:28] <HaSH> merzbow: use the same directory
[01:28] <Chousuke> pi3: I wish I'd had backups when my drive said boom
[01:28] <HaSH> just mount over the iso
[01:28] <kitche> Justi1: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:28] <daan> ubuntu_: I actually only have one panel like Windows :P
[01:28] <ubuntu_> lol youre sill daan
[01:28] <HaSH> is if you start in /1 mount the 2nd cd to /1 when it asks for the 2nd cd
[01:28] <pi3> Chousuke: heh
[01:28] <daan> ubuntu_: Nope it saves space I don't need two
[01:28] <ubuntu_> silly*
[01:28] <merzbow> HaSH, you mean ... mount all the discs in the same directory ...?
[01:28] <vox754> greg_g, you are right, too much for one day. See ya.
[01:29] <Justi1> kitche: i am really new to this; can you explain more?
[01:29] <HaSH> merzbow: yes. but not all at once.
[01:29] <ubuntu_> gparted is still going.....how do i know if its working lol
[01:29] <Zyfo> Is it possible to display the files on my desktop in lists instead of icons? How?
[01:29] <kitche> Justi1: it brings up the program to reconfigure X
[01:29] <HaSH> merzbow: mount them ask the installer asks for them
[01:29] <`Kevin> Can someone help me with GRUB Error 21?
[01:29] <daan> ubuntu_: there should be a thingy rocking around
[01:29] <ubuntu_> i remember when i was new to this Justil
[01:29] <Justi1> kitche: i just type it in a command promt?
[01:29] <kitche> Justi1: yep
[01:29] <ubuntu_> the bar is going back and forth daan but i dont see any progress really
[01:29] <merzbow> HaSH, yeah I tried that ... but when I clicked ok .. nothing happened
[01:30] <merzbow> HaSH, I'm using some program to mount them..
[01:30] <Justi1> kitche: thanks a bunch
[01:30] <daan> ubuntu_: what is the status?
[01:30] <unagi> much better
[01:30] <HaSH> !iso | merzbow
[01:30] <ubotu> merzbow: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[01:30] <numus> drk_avenger you still there?
[01:30] <dcordes> is there any good software for making ISDN phone calls?
[01:30] <unagi> ubuntu_ makes me look like a noob
[01:30] <daan> unagi: indeed
[01:30] <HaSH> merzbow: try to do it that^^ way
[01:30] <numus> can anyone help me with java
[01:30] <daan> unagi: what is the status
[01:30] <numus> i did what the damn site said
[01:30] <numus> got the things for firefox
[01:30] <unagi> i dont see status anywhere
[01:30] <numus> and it still wont work
[01:30] <MrElendig> `Kevin: error 21 = canno't find disc
[01:31] <daan> unagi: should be somewhere
[01:31] <oannes> greetings
[01:31] <unagi> but the last thing in details says resize 2fs /dev/sda4 blah blah
[01:31] <oannes> Can someone help me setup dvd viewing in Ubuntu 6.10?
[01:31] <`Kevin> I installed Ubuntu on my second hard drive (Quantum Fireball), and when I reboot my computer, it says GRUB Stage 1.5 Error 21. Now I can't get to either hard drive and I'm using the CD T_T
[01:31] <daan> unagi: then it's resizing now
[01:31] <unagi> i see the hd status light on
[01:31] <oannes> I have vlc, libdvdread3 libdvdcss and mplayer installed
[01:31] <oannes> still keeps giving me errors about:
[01:31] <kbrosnan> numus: you are still having problems
[01:31] <oannes> libdvdread: Can't open file VIDEO_TS.IFO.
[01:31] <unagi> lol but i dont believe it without a status bar! =)
[01:31] <nevhood> Is there any way to use the Windows XP boot manager for Ubuntu?
[01:31] <daan> unagi: i did some simple thing once and it took 3 hours :P
[01:31] <numus> kbrosnan yes
[01:31] <merzbow> HaSH, I tried ... the thing is .. it wouldn't let me .. because of the filename  I think .. it was too long .. "World of Warcraft (Disc 1).iso"
[01:31] <oannes> unagi, no
[01:31] <unagi> dont tell me 3 hours
[01:31] <unagi> i dont have that kind of time
[01:32] <MrElendig> nevhood: yes, but why woud you want to?
[01:32] <daan> unagi: could be
[01:32] <unagi> oannes no what?
[01:32] <HaSH> merzbow: its the spaces in the name
[01:32] <kbrosnan> numus: did anyone help you change the default java in your path?
[01:32] <HaSH> merzbow: use tab auto complete
[01:32] <numus> kbrosnan no no one has helped me period
[01:32] <unagi> windows never takes this long =(
[01:32] <oannes> unagi, can't use the Windows booter for loading Linux, have to use lilo or grub to dual boot linux and Windows
[01:32] <daan> unagi: and you'd better not stop it while it's working....
[01:32] <Anolis> merzbow put ' aroung it
[01:32] <`Kevin> >_>
[01:32] <HaSH> like mount .... /full/path/to/fi<tab>
[01:32] <unagi> what!!!!!
[01:32] <daan> unagi: what do you mean? windows can't resize
[01:32] <nevhood> MrElendig: just a matter of preference... others in the family seem to have trouble with it
[01:32] <HaSH> and tab will auto fill it in....
[01:32] <unagi> after all that time it comes back up and tells me cant resize the volume because its mounted
[01:32] <unagi> daan windows can
[01:33] <daan> unagi: if you stop it there will be data loss
[01:33] <kbrosnan> numus: you need to find the java 6 install point, specifically the binary program called java
[01:33] <merzbow> HaSH, yeap I know ... though there are 4 files named very similar .. the only difference is the disc number ...
[01:33] <numus> kbrosnan umm
[01:33] <daan> unagi: so it stopped now?
[01:33] <pi3> Chousuke: I don't understand why "find *.ini ~/Musica" returns mp3 files
[01:33] <kbrosnan> numus: then symlink it to /usr/local/bin
[01:33] <HaSH> merzbow: hmm not sure then...
[01:33] <unagi> oddly no daan
[01:33] <unagi> its still going back and forthy
[01:33] <`Kevin> Can someone help me? GRUB Isn't working.
[01:34] <Chousuke> pi3: you need to give a predicate to find
[01:34] <unagi> i dunno what the crap its doing lol
[01:34] <kbrosnan> numus: i don't have java 6 installed but if you give me a moment  i'll look where java 5 is installed to
[01:34] <MrElendig> nevhood: Just edit the menu.lst to have just Ubuntu and windows in it then
[01:34] <Chousuke> find ~/Musica -name "*.ini"
[01:34] <numus> update-java-alternatives-l
[01:34] <daan> unagi: well i suggest using the gparted livecd if this doesn't work
[01:34] <unagi> want a screen shot daan?
[01:34] <numus> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.00/bin$
[01:34] <merzbow> HaSH, although I didn't put the full path
[01:34] <daan> unagi: yes
[01:34] <numus> that look familiar at all?
[01:34] <unagi> i dont have any blank cds =(
[01:34] <nevhood> MrElendig: good idea
[01:38] <MrElendig> nevhood: if they can't manage to choose between two otions, they won't be able to use the windows one either
[01:38] <merzbow> HaSH, I went to the directory where the file is .. then I wrote the filename..
[01:38] <HaSH> merzbow: ....its worth a shot.
[01:38] <nevhood> MrElendig: you're right
[01:38] <Crosswing> hello
[01:38] <unagi> hrm
[01:38] <numus> i am to confused
[01:38] <Genomsaren> hi
[01:38] <SprNerd> Can anyone help me?
[01:38] <unagi> YAY!
[01:38] <unagi> its done
[01:38] <unagi> lol
[01:38] <unagi> sorry for the flood
[01:38] <unagi> so now i have to head back to my ship and get a blank cd and burn mandriva
[01:38] <MrElendig> `Kevin`: pastebin your /boot/grum/menu.lst
[01:38] <kbrosnan> numus: yeah so try this ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.00/bin/java /usr/local/bin
[01:38] <MrElendig> and fdisk -l
[01:38] <unagi> so if i install mandriva will the grub automatically update itsself?
[01:38] <SprNerd> MrElendig: How do I do that?
[01:38] <kbrosnan> numus: then java -version to see if that worked
[01:38] <daan> unagi: i have no idea
[01:38] <unagi> hrm
[01:38] <daan> unagi: i think it will overwrite it...
[01:38] <numus> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_11-b03)
[01:38] <unagi> is that bad?
[01:38] <daan> unagi: or do you have a seperate /boot partition
[01:38] <MrElendig> SprNerd: ?
[01:38] <unagi> i ahve 2 linux swap partitions
[01:38] <daan> unagi: could be for ubuntu
[01:38] <SprNerd> MrElendig: I'm `Kevin :P
[01:38] <MrElendig> SprNerd = `Kevin` ?
[01:38] <unagi> what is the main advantage of kde over gnome?
[01:38] <MrElendig> boot with a livecd, mount the prtion
[01:38] <kbrosnan> numus: does the file /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.00/bin/java exist?
[01:38] <MrElendig> partion
[01:38] <PortugueseMan> unagi, it's a matter of preference
[01:38] <unagi> ah
[01:40] <unagi> im sorta afraid to install mandriva now =(
[01:40] <kristi> I'm getting serious errors when trying to run apt-get (or Synaptic or Update Manager).  It crashes every single time with different errors and claims that many packages need to be updated.
[01:40] <MrElendig> then open the menu.lst in an editor
[01:40] <`Kevin> MrE: I'm using hdb and it won't let me mount it.
[01:40] <MrElendig> and copy/past into a pastebin
[01:40] <merzbow> could any of you help me fix my microphone problems on Ubuntu?? It doesn't record ... any ideas?
[01:40] <kitche> unagi: kde is more customizable
[01:40] <khin> hi im trying to download a directory in gFTP but it has like 1 file whose permission is denied. is there any way to set gFTP to skip files that it cannot read
[01:40] <daan> unagi: i think you should ask a mandriva expert
[01:40] <samwize> unagi: kde is a bit more fature heavy, and gnome is more for people who need minimalism
[01:40] <unagi> such as rearranging buttons and stuff right? kitche
[01:40] <ariel_> #ubuntu-es
[01:40] <samwize> feature*
[01:40] <numus> kbrosnan no
[01:40] <PortugueseMan> unagi - http://www.psychocats.net/essays/kdevsgnome
[01:40] <unagi> my cdrom wont eject =(
[01:40] <kristi> ....not only that, but now a LOT of apps are crashing constantly.
[01:40] <daan> unagi: yes like that although i found kde to be more unstable
[01:40] <unagi> oh lol because im using live cd
[01:40] <unagi> duh
[01:40] <unagi> i see....gnome it is for me then
[01:40] <PortugueseMan> there you'll see some differences between kde and gnome
[01:40] <nevhood> MrElendig: how do i set Windows as the default selection
[01:40] <unagi> one thing about mandriva that scares me is theres not as much support like there is for ubuntu
[01:40] <merkidemis> I accidentally removed the battery icon and the nice network icon from my panel.  How do I get them back?  The two I can add from the "add to panel" dialog aren't the same, and aren't as nice.
[01:40] <MrElendig> nevhood: default n
[01:40] <khin> my gnome locks up sometimes. i cant open a terminal or even shut down
[01:40] <`Kevin> MrE: Error: Unable to mount the selected volume. error: device /dev/hdba is not removeable. error: could not execute pmount
[01:40] <Justi1> I recieve an error when I boot up Ubuntu, saying that the X window server cannot be started, probably because it is not setup correctly. In the output it says
[01:40] <Justi1> (EE) VESA(0): No matching modes
[01:40] <Justi1> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usuable configuration
[01:40] <Justi1> How can I fix this?
[01:40] <MrElendig> 0 is the forst
[01:40] <MrElendig> 2 is the second
[01:40] <MrElendig> er.. 1 is the second
[01:40] <daan> unagi: that is what i like about Ubuntu the most the amount of support
[01:40] <kristi> I'm getting serious errors when trying to run apt-get (or Synaptic or Update Manager).  It crashes every single time with different errors and claims that many packages need to be updated.  And now almost all programs crash every time with the error "Segmentation Fault"
[01:40] <meme_> Man i would sure hate to go back to windows, i so love ubuntu now that i have it set up how i like it.
[01:40] <NigelS> numus: java works fine in ubuntu - if you want the jdk rather than just the vm then install it, the package is sun-java6-jdk, it's in multiverse.  You can switch between diff versions of java using the update-alternatives tool
[01:40] <unagi> sigh if only i could get maya to run well i wouldnt need an rpm linux
[01:54] <merkidemis> kristi: can you do an apt-get clean at all?
[01:54] <daan> unagi: you can convert rpm to deb
[01:54] <`Kevin> MrElendig:   Error: Unable to mount the selected volume. error: device /dev/hdba is not removeable. error: could not execute pmount
[01:54] <kristi> merkidemis: E: Unable to lock the download directory
[01:54] <meme_> I just need to fix my shutdown problem.
[01:54] <numus> i have all of those installed
[01:54] <unagi> i know....and i did but like i said maya crashes in ubuntu when you press space bar
[01:54] <daan> unagi: ah ok didn't know that and there is not a ubuntu version...
[01:54] <Justi1> I recieve an error when I boot up Ubuntu, saying that the X window server cannot be started, probably because it is not setup correctly. In the output it says
[01:54] <Justi1> (EE) VESA(0): No matching modes
[01:54] <Justi1> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usuable configuration
[01:54] <Justi1> How can I fix this?
[01:54] <unagi> nope
[01:54] <kbrosnan> numus: what is the output of ls /usr/lib/jvm use a pastebin if more than a line or two
[01:54] <unagi> its only in rpm
[01:54] <AzMoo[w] > Hey, I'm trying to install urchin and it's telling me that port 9999 is in use. I ran 'netstat --numeric | grep 9999' and it returned nothing. Any way I can find out what's using that port?
[01:54] <unagi> hence why im even bothering with mandriva cuz i like ubunut =)
[01:54] <merzbow> Anybody knows how to fix the microphone not recording problem in Ubuntu??
[01:54] <shavex> alright so im having a problem with my sound... it was working when i put acpi=off noacpi in the menu.lst file, but now i boot up and it just makes some popping noises
[01:54] <MrElendig> unagi: you can convert a rpm to .deb
[01:54] <daan> unagi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66859
[01:54] <daan> unagi: maybe that'll help
[01:54] <merkidemis> I accidentally removed the battery icon and the nice network icon from my panel.  How do I get them back?  The two I can add from the "add to panel" dialog aren't the same, and aren't as nice.
[01:54] <NigelS> unagi: well that certainly isn't going to be down to the file format per se; did you google maya and ubuntu? first hit on google is a guide
[01:54] <unagi> ty daan brb
[01:54] <NigelS> numus: and your problem is then?
[01:54] <`Kevin> Error: Unable to mount the selected volume. error: device /dev/hdba is not removeable. error: could not execute pmount
[01:54] <unagi> the issue isnt installing maya........
[01:54] <kristi> merkidemis: No go.  I ran install -f, and clean, and update.  Still crashes, segmentation fault
[01:54] <`Kevin> Not hdba it's hdb1
[01:54] <unagi> the issue is that it locks up ubuntu when i access the hotbox....i just figured that was because i was trying to run it on deb
[01:54] <MrElendig> `Kevin: /dev/hdba sin't a valid device
[01:54] <merkidemis> kristi: does aptitude do the same thing?
[01:54] <`Kevin> MeElendig:What?! Why not?
[01:54] <Sonicadvance1> lol
[01:54] <NigelS> unagi: well it's certainly not crashing because it came out of an rpm - it could easily be because a file it expects to find is placed in the wrong place etc so in fact it could be an issue with installation
[01:54] <MrElendig> /dev/hdb1 for the first partion on the second disc
[01:54] <unagi> i would be somewhat happy if this was a distro wide crash
[01:54] <`Kevin> MrElending: There are no partitions on it.
[01:54] <MSIGuy> So let me know if I go tthis right.  To select a wireless network from the command line, the command is, #iwconfig eth1 essid [Name] ?
[01:54] <`Kevin> MrElendig: I had it wipe the hard drive and install Ubuntu on the whole thing.
[01:54] <numus> NigelS it doesn't work in firefox
[01:54] <kristi> merkidemis: One sec.
[01:54] <MrElendig> MSIGuy: yes
[01:54] <unagi> so its not an issue of different file systems between rpm distros and deb distros NigelS
[01:54] <kristi> merkidemis: That throws and "Uncaught exception" error and crashes immediately too.
[01:54] <MSIGuy> MrElendig: Okay, thanks.
[01:54] <shiester_miester> gday everyone
[01:54] <MrElendig> `Kevin: it's /dev/hdXY where X is a letter, and Y is a number
[01:54] <merkidemis> kristi: how about a fsck? perhaps there is a disk error?
[01:54] <unagi> interesting
[01:54] <unagi> let me restart and try this fix
[01:54] <merkidemis> I accidentally removed the battery icon and the nice network icon from my panel.  How do I get them back?  The two I can add from the "add to panel" dialog aren't the same, and aren't as nice.
[01:54] <khin> hi for that matter how do i get gFTP to download recursively? im on this guy's ssh server and whenever i try to download a folder it just gives an empty folder
[01:54] <`Kevin> MrElendig: So what do I type? If I installed it on hdb?
[01:54] <NigelS> unagi: the architecture on which the program is running is the same - what could cause a crash would be the wrong library version for example if that was the case but it won't be per se because of the package format (rather than file system, the fs's are in fact the same between distros)
[01:54] <MSIGuy> One question though, after resuming from hibernating my eth1 (the wireless) isn't available, or seen in ifconfig, why is that?
[01:54] <NigelS> numus: are you sure this isn't because you're running it in a vm?
[01:54] <kristi> merkidemis: I can't unmount the volume I need to check lol
[01:54] <god> hey guys im trying to figure out how to backup my *deb packages in ubuntu 6.0.6 and im getting permission errors when i try to burn the image. i've also dled aptoncd but it doesnt like my python dependancys
[01:54] <NigelS> numus: have you googled to see if this might have come up?
[01:54] <merkidemis> kristi: heh
[01:54] <cdehaan> Hello! Is there one file that saves my GNOME menu bar positions and contents, so that I can back it up?
[01:54] <MrElendig> MSIGuy: you probably need to load the module again
[01:54] <merkidemis> kristi: sadly I am out of ideas now
[01:54] <unagi> it seems to happen on fedora as well so i think youre right
[01:54] <shiester_miester> when i use some text-based apps in windows, i can hold alt+click & drag to select a block of text.  how can I do this in linux?
[01:54] <MSIGuy> How do I do that?  /ect/networks/ restart network ?
[01:54] <MrElendig> MSIGuy: I sugest making suspend rmmod it at suspend and modprobe it at resune
[01:54] <MrElendig> resume*
[01:54] <MSIGuy> Hmmm...  I don' t know what that means.
[01:54] <`Kevin> MrElendig: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ pmount /dev/hdb(1,x)
[01:54] <`Kevin> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[01:54] <unagi> lol i JUST resized my partition now im putting it back
[01:54] <unagi> silly unagi
[01:54] <NigelS> unagi: what version of maya is this?
[01:54] <MrElendig> `Kevin: mount /dev/hdb1
[01:54] <NigelS> unagi: it might be to do with composite
[01:54] <unagi> 8.5
[01:54] <kbrosnan> NigelS: the main thing numus needs to do is switch from java 1.5.x in the path to java 6 a command like sudo ln -s /path/to/java /usr/local/bin should fix the problem
[01:54] <`Kevin> Oh.
[01:54] <`Kevin> Oops
[01:54] <unagi> what is composite? NigelS
[01:54] <khin> sorry this is a dumb question but i cant get gFTP to download recursively... how do i do this
[01:54] <Stoffer> can someone help me out with bluetooth?  When I try to connect with my phone, it asks for a passcode, but I don't think I have one set on my computer
[01:54] <Chousuke> khin: try to drag and drop the enclosing directory?
[01:54] <`Kevin> MrElendig: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ mount /dev/hdb1
[01:54] <`Kevin> mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[01:54] <`Kevin> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ mount /dev/hdb
[01:54] <`Kevin> mount: can't find /dev/hdb in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[01:54] <`Kevin> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ mount /dev/hdb5
[01:54] <`Kevin> mount: only root can mount /dev/hdb5 on swap
[01:54] <`Kevin> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[01:54] <`Kevin> Oops.
[01:54] <`Kevin> :P
[01:54] <unagi> Stoffer
[01:54] <kitche> !paste
[01:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:54] <NigelS> kbrosnan: but that ought to happen anyway with installing the java6 packages surely?
[01:54] <unagi> that is rather annoying isnt it Stoffer
[01:54] <kristi> I'm getting serious errors when trying to run apt-get (or Synaptic or Update Manager).  It crashes every single time with different errors and claims that many packages need to be updated.  And now almost all programs crash every time with the error "Segmentation Fault"
[01:54] <Stoffer> unagi, quite
[01:54] <god> lol
[01:54] <unagi> Stoffer i can help you but you have to wait till i can boot into my hd......will you hang around?
[01:54] <god> this sucks.
[01:54] <kitche> kristi: if everything is seg faulting then a reinstall is in order
[01:54] <kbrosnan> NigelS: java -version returns java 1.5.x for him
[01:54] <Stoffer> unagi, sure
[01:54] <h1st0> kristi: what where you doing before this started or has it ever worked?
[01:54] <MrElendig> `Kevin: mount /dev/hdb1 /somewhere  where /somewhere is some (empthy) folder of your liking
[01:54] <kristi> kitche: Uhm, I can't reinstall because apt-get is crashing too.,
[01:54] <MrElendig> e.g. /mnt
[01:54] <NigelS> kbrosnan: then he hasn;t, as he claimed installed them properly or run the update-alternatives program correctly
[01:54] <god> im running 6.0.6 and i can not satisfy python dependancys for installing aptoncd
[01:54] <jackson6> i can't extract .tar files...  what do i do?  i keep getting tar: Unexpected EOF in archive
[01:54] <kitche> kristi: so you can't put in the install disc and reinstall?
[01:54] <Bothered> kitche: an OS re-install
[01:54] <kristi> h1st0: I installed the updates last night, woke up this morning to the system crashed and since then this has been happening.
[01:54] <`Kevin> MrElendig: I dunno any empty folders on that hard drive.
[01:54] <linuxgx> link to wine please!!!
[01:54] <kristi> kitche: Reinstall Ubuntu??
[01:54] <h1st0> kristi: what version of butnu are you running?
[01:54] <shiester_miester> linuxgx, http://winehq.org, i think
[01:54] <kristi> h1st0: Feisty
[01:54] <kitche> kristi: yes your whole system is messed up if every program is seg faulting
[02:04] <unagi> ok Stoffer ill brb to help
[02:04] <MrElendig> `Kevin: mkdir /mnt/boot && mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/boot
[02:04] <Stoffer> unagi, k
[02:04] <h1st0> kristi: or it could just be a hardware issue too?
[02:04] <MrElendig> that will mount it at /mnt/boot
[02:04] <linuxgx> link to wine irc please!!!
[02:04] <kristi> h1st0: Update Manager said there were updates this morning and when I tried installing them, it told me I needed to run apt-get install -f first.
[02:04] <Redimere> hmm
[02:04] <Redimere> lovely bunch in here tonight
[02:04] <`Kevin> MrElendig: mkdir /mnt/boot && mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/boot
[02:04] <`Kevin> Oops
[02:04] <daan> kristi: bad memory could be causing that
[02:04] <`Kevin> MrElendig: mkdir: cannot create directory `/mnt/boot': Permission denied
[02:10] <MrElendig> or to be more exact, create the folder /mnt/boot and then mount /dev/hdb1 there
[02:10] <linuxgx> link to wine irc please!!!
[02:10] <h1st0> kristi: do you have third parties in your sources.list
[02:10] <jackson6> i can't extract .tar files...  what do i do?  i keep getting tar: Unexpected EOF in archive
[02:10] <kristi> daan: Not all the errors are Seg Faults though.
[02:10] <h1st0> linuxgx: #winehq
[02:10] <shiester_miester> linuxgx, #winehq
[02:10] <kristi> h1st0: Yes, I have the Trevino's reps for Compiz Fusion.
[02:10] <gordonjcp> linuxgx: http://winehq.org
[02:10] <dcordes> linuxgx, #winehq !!!#winehq !!!
[02:10] <shiester_miester> gordonjcp, i gave him that link earlier :P he ignored me
[02:10] <h1st0> kristi: well I have those and i'm not having any problems after the updates.
[02:10] <jvai> hey ppls
[02:10] <gordonjcp> shiester_miester: oh, so you did ;-)
[02:10] <h1st0> kristi: wonder what went wrong?  Do you have a seperate ~ partition?
[02:10] <shiester_miester> gday jvai
[02:10] <shiester_miester> how do i select blocks of text in linux?
[02:10] <kristi> h1st0: I don't know if the updates caused it, but that's the only thing I did that was out of the ordinary.
[02:10] <jvai> hey shiester
[02:10] <Justi1> I recieve an error when I boot up Ubuntu, saying that the X window server cannot be started, probably because it is not setup correctly. In the output it says
[02:10] <Justi1> (EE) VESA(0): No matching modes
[02:10] <Justi1> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usuable configuration
[02:10] <Justi1> How can I fix this?
[02:10] <shiester_miester> in windows i could hold alt + select text to select a block
[02:10] <jvai> found a torrent for woob 1194
[02:10] <h1st0> kristi: I would try running a mem test from grub or booting to the live cd to make sure its not hardware related before losing any data.
[02:10] <shiester_miester> Justi1, that means that it cant find a resolution to use
[02:10] <jvai> %98 complete
[02:10] <kristi> h1st0: I believe I setup a seperate ~ partition, but I don't have gparted installed to make sure.
[02:10] <shiester_miester> Justi1, if you edit your xorg.conf file you might be able to fix it
[02:10] <h1st0> kristi: fdisk -l
[02:10] <jackson6> i can't extract .tar files...  what do i do?  i keep getting tar: Unexpected EOF in archive
[02:10] <NigelS> jackson6: the tar file isn't truncated? is it just <file>.tar or does it have a longer name?
[02:10] <Ominous> argh, when i launch steam using wine steam crashes at 26% updating saying another copy of steam is already open
[02:10] <shiester_miester> Justi1, did you do anything while it was working that miught have made it screw up?  that exact same thing happened to me when i installed video drivers
[02:10] <NigelS> jackson6: tar -xf will extract a .tar
[02:10] <kristi> h1st0: fdisk -l returns nothing for some reason.
[02:10] <jmchaffie> OK I feel like a goob here. Neither "gdm-stop" nor "gdm stop" work.. I can't kill the x server!!! what am I doing wrong? I need to install new drivers and can't kill it?
[02:10] <unagi> ok Stoffer
[02:10] <`Kevin> MrElendig: It says I can't make a directory.
[02:10] <shiester_miester> a goob, lol
[02:10] <jackson6> NigelS: its extension .tar , ok let me try -xf
[02:10] <h1st0> kristi: sudo fdisk -l
[02:10] <jmchaffie> :)
[02:26] <kristi> h1st0: Oh, I need to run as root.  OKay, yes I have a seperate partition.
[02:26] <kitche> jmchaffie: : sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop will kill gdm
[02:26] <unagi> you here Stoffer?
[02:26] <NigelS> unagi: in maya try doing hotBox -dco - this apparently turns off the spacebar drawing, but leaves other things on
[02:26] <jmchaffie> ok thanks kitche
[02:26] <Justi1> shiester_miester: I edited the xorg file, specifying display modes and resolutions, but the same problem occured.  Also, I have been unable to get it working, as I just installed it
[02:26] <unagi> you run maya NigelS?
[02:26] <shiester_miester> Justi1, thats unusual
[02:26] <shiester_miester> Justi1, but you can obviously use it through console
[02:26] <h1st0> kristi: well if you have a seperate home partition and you reinstall you won't loose anything as long as you don't delette that home partition.
[02:26] <shiester_miester> hmm, i wonder what caused the problem?
[02:26] <h1st0> kristi: you just point the new install at it and all your settings everything are back.
[02:26] <shiester_miester> sorry Justi1, i don't know :(
[02:26] <`Kevin> Man, this sucks. I wanna get to Windows!
[02:26] <jvai> i hate bandwdth throttling by isps
[02:26] <Justi1> shiester: thanks anyway
[02:26] <NigelS> unagi: no, but I started looking around for you - some people seem to have had a similar problem - others blame the composite extension/nvidia driver, but no one has said for sure - however that should work if it's just that feature that's buggy
[02:26] <shiester_miester> `Kevin, whaaaaaaat
[02:26] <numus> nigels
[02:26] <shiester_miester> heathen!
[02:26] <shiester_miester> philistine!
[02:26] <`Kevin> shiester: I get GRUB Error 21
[02:26] <shiester_miester> ah ok
[02:26] <unagi> yea i saw nvidia and that made me feel good lol
[02:26] <shiester_miester> yeah grub errors SUCK
[02:26] <magic_pinguim_> hello
[02:26] <shiester_miester> hi magic_pinguim
[02:26] <ubunut> Hi!!!
[02:26] <`Kevin> :shiester: I can't mount my hard drives either.
[02:26] <NigelS> numus: yep?
[02:26] <numus> my problem is i have the wrong java running i guess
[02:26] <numus> and i have no idea how to get java to work in firefox
[02:26] <numus> i followed the website but that didn't help
[02:26] <unagi> Stoffer are you here.....im ready and willing to solve your problem
[02:26] <rolfen> hello everyone i may need your help
[02:26] <holycow> hey guys ... in which dir are c header files supposed to belocated in ... /usr/src or /lib/modules?
[02:26] <kristi> h1st0: Is it possible to reinstall without using the CD?  My friend's optical drive has proven quite unreliable in the past for installing Ubuntu.
[02:26] <h1st0> !ask > rolfen
[02:26] <NigelS> numus: if you type update-alternatives --config java
[02:26] <NigelS> numus: what does it list?
[02:26] <unagi> lol i love how many people in here are looking for a way to install ubuntu without a cd drive.....
[02:26] <h1st0> kristi: you could do a netinstall but you would still need a way to boot to that.
[02:26] <numus>           1    /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1
[02:26] <numus> *         2    /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java
[02:26] <numus>  +        3    /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java
[02:26] <MrElendig> kristi: can the box boot from network?
[02:26] <h1st0> kristi: there is a mini cd that just boots up and then downloads all the packages.
[02:26] <rolfen> thank hlst0 i have hooked up a drive to ubuntu but i cant see it...
[02:26] <cdehaan> unagi: That's because optical media is annoying :)
[02:26] <NigelS> numus: well you've selected 1.5 right there, press 3 to choose java 6
[02:26] <`Kevin> Can anyone help me fix my GRUB error?
[02:26] <h1st0> rolfen: what kind of drive?
[02:26] <numus> permission denied lol
[02:26] <Bothered> `Kevin: What's the error?
[02:26] <unagi> lol yea......but then again i dont understand why hard drives arent 100% solid state yet
[02:26] <rolfen> a 200gb hard disk with one ntfs partition on it
[02:26] <h1st0> brb have to go eat.
[02:26] <kristi> h1st0: Any suggestions short of reinstalling, though?
[02:26] <NigelS> numus: put sudo in front of it
[02:26] <MrElendig> Bothered: 21
[02:26] <h1st0> rolfen: you have to mount it.
[02:26] <numus> i know
[02:26] <unagi> i <3 sudo
[02:26] <numus> now how do i get it to work in firefox
[02:26] <h1st0> !mount > rolfen
[02:26] <rolfen> hlst0 no automount?
[02:26] <kristi> h1st0: I've had to reinstall Ubuntu about 25 times since I started using Linux lol
[02:26] <NigelS> it should have been installed automatically
[02:26] <ubunut> owe
[02:26] <ubunut> that hurts
[02:26] <h1st0> kristi: i would try to boot to something else on the same hardware make sure its not ram or something screwey
[02:26] <rolfen> hlst0 bon apettit
[02:26] <`Kevin> Bothered: I have had Ubuntu erase hdb and install on it, and now when I reboot I get "GRUB stage 1.5 GRUB Error 21"
[02:26] <unagi> i want a tshirt that says sudo screw -me
[02:26] <unagi> lol
[02:26] <holycow> unagi, because of limited rewrites
[02:26] <jvai> ouch! @ kristi
[02:26] <Zyfo> Using feisty gnome and I've googled and read the help file without any success. Is it possible to display the files on my desktop in lists instead of icons? How?
[02:26] <ubunut> HaHa HaHa HaHa HaHa HaHa
[02:26] <h1st0> kristi: I would say you have some hardware issues causing that.  You should have to reinstall ever.
[02:26] <numus> nigels nope.. it is not in about:plugins
[02:26] <ubunut>  Geem'z quotes  - <unagi> i want a tshirt that says sudo screw -me - aDDeD oN - July 09 2007 -
[02:26] <h1st0> !ntfs | rolfen
[02:26] <unagi> i dont think ive ever used a rewriteable cd
[02:26] <h1st0> bbl
[02:26] <Bothered> `Kevin: You may have installed to a drive that can't be accessed by the bios
[02:26] <holycow> it would be super simple to destroy a flash drive in a few seconds or minutes
[02:26] <Bothered> `Kevin: Have you installed to a firewire drive?
[02:26] <ubotu> rolfen: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[02:26] <rolfen> is that ubotu sleeping or what?
[02:26] <rolfen> oh ok
[02:26] <rolfen> thanks ubotu
[02:26] <`Kevin> Bothered: No. It's a Quantam Fireball 20gb
[02:26] <kitche> h1st0: guess you never played with linux lol since you have to reinstall many times usually
[02:26] <Stoffer> unagi, sorry, I stepped away for a min
[02:26] <`Kevin> Bothered: It's from a few years ago
[02:26] <Bothered> `Kevin: Is it internal? SATA or IDE?
[02:26] <kristi> grr...
[02:26] <rolfen> hlst0 thanks
[02:26] <kristi> h1st0: Okay... thank you.
[02:26] <unagi> thats ok
[02:26] <`Kevin> Bothered: It's internal IDE
[02:26] <Bothered> `Kevin: Hmm, it might not be enabled in the bios
[02:26] <unagi> Stoffer heres what you do.....sudo aptitude install bluez-pin
[02:26] <Sonicadvance1> oi
[02:26] <NigelS> numus: if you ls -al /usr/lib/firefox/plugins what do you see?
[02:26] <Bothered> `Kevin: It is possible to install to a drive that can be accessed from a linux system (e.g. a Live CD) but not at boot time
[02:26] <Sonicadvance1> holycow, how would you do that?
[02:26] <unagi> tell me when youre done Stoffer
[02:26] <Bothered> `Kevin: I did it once
[02:26] <NigelS> numus: do you see the libjava lib?
[02:26] <`Kevin> Bothered: Anyway for me to fix that?
[02:26] <numus> no
[02:26] <numus> libjavaplugin.oji.so
[02:26] <holycow> just write randomly to the drive many times, flash drives have very very limited write llife spans
[02:26] <numus> libjavaplugin.so
[02:26] <pi3> by deleting ~/.wine, am I deleting all the wine programs?
[02:26] <doms> hi
[02:26] <Bothered> `Kevin: I would check that the drive is enabled in your bios
[02:26] <doms> anybody can help me
[02:26] <kitche> pi3: all the exe programs you installed
[02:26] <Bothered> `Kevin: If it is, try re-installing
[02:26] <`Kevin> Bothered: How do I do that?
[02:26] <Stoffer> unagi, done
[02:26] <NigelS> numus: and where does it point?
[02:26] <Bothered> `Kevin: Take care with bios settings
[02:26] <numus> oji.so nowhere
[02:26] <rolfen> how comes there's no automount in ubuntu yet???
[02:26] <andrewkk> !ask doms
[02:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask doms - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:26] <Bothered> `Kevin: It varies from machine to machine, I can't really help you with that
[02:26] <MrElendig> rolfen: there is
[02:26] <numus> nigels lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root     39 2007-07-09 19:26 libjavaplugin.so -> /etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so
[02:26] <Bothered> `Kevin: sorry
[02:26] <`Kevin> Bothered: Damn. Stupid Dell >_>
[02:26] <kitche> rolfen: umm there is and has been for a while now
[02:26] <rolfen> MrElendig: then why isnt it mounting my drive?
[02:26] <unagi> ok next Stoffer sudo gedit /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf
[02:26] <samwize> dell = evil
[02:26] <merkidemis> how do I get the nice network monitor applet and power applet back?  The ones I see in the "add to panel" dialog aren't as nice
[02:26] <NigelS> numus: ok, and there are no other java plugins in there?
[02:26] <numus> dont get me start on dell
[02:26] <fblade19881> guys i need help
[02:26] <numus> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root     63 2007-07-09 18:35 lib-java-plugin.so -> /usr/local/j2re-1.4.2/plugin/amd64/mozilla/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[02:26] <rolfen> MrElendig and kitche I'll investigate that... maybe something wrong...
[02:26] <Stoffer> unagi, k
[02:26] <b14ck73425> i forgot how to change file permissions
[02:26] <unagi> under passkey "1234" add pin_helper /usr/bin/bluez-pin;
[02:26] <merkidemis> chmod
[02:26] <knix> merkidemis: gnome-power-manager and nm-applet
[02:26] <b14ck73425> thats what i thought
[02:28] <numus> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 137085 2007-07-09 18:48 libjavaplugin_oji.so
[02:28] <b14ck73425> thanx
[02:28] <numus> nigels thats it
[02:28] <unagi> save it then give it a try
[02:28] <MSIGuy> So, linux has a firewall enabled by default correct?
[02:28] <Stoffer> unagi, and change the "default pin for incomming transfers?"
[02:28] <mneptok> MSIGuy: no
[02:28] <MrElendig> MSIGuy: no
[02:28] <MSIGuy> It doesn't?
[02:28] <MSIGuy> I've been having problems with my torrents.
[02:28] <numus> misguy get a router...
[02:28] <chohmann> !ask | fblade19881 and doms
[02:28] <ubotu> fblade19881 and doms: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:28] <unagi> i never do
[02:28] <mneptok> MSIGuy: what torrent client?
[02:28] <MrElendig> MSIGuy: linux is just the kernel in the os GNU/Linux
[02:28] <unagi> are you trying to use youre phone as modem?
[02:28] <MSIGuy> ktorrent
[02:28] <NigelS> numus: right, there sould only be one really - move all bit the first one you spammed out of the plugin folder and restart firefox.  If it still doesn't register your hava plugin then a good approach would be to try deleting pluginreg.dat to force it to recache the plugin folder
[02:28] <MrElendig> wich ther is alot of different distributions
[02:28] <numus> azureues is what i use
[02:28] <mneptok> MSIGuy: does your router fully support UPnP?
[02:28] <MSIGuy> MrElendig: Okay, I meant to say Ubuntu.
[02:28] <MSIGuy> Its a LInksys WRT54G-L
[02:28] <numus> where should i move them to
[02:28] <MrElendig> who may or may not have a firewall enabled by default
[02:28] <MSIGuy> With the stock firmware, haven't OpenWRT'd it yet.
[02:28] <fblade19881> just installed pidgin on feisty went to play a game crashed went to boot back up and now i have /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off (intramfs) how can i get back into fiesty
[02:28] <fblade19881> am having to use a live cd
[02:28] <b14ck73425> explain how to use chmod
[02:28] <b14ck73425> i havent had to do it in forever
[02:28] <mneptok> MSIGuy: you'll probably have to forward ports that kTorrent uses to the IP your machine has. 6881-6889 are usually the safest bet.
[02:28] <kitche> b14ck73425: man chmod will explain it to you
[02:28] <numus> what is the copy command again
[02:28] <MrElendig> numus: cp
[02:28] <MSIGuy> I do have them fowardes, but every time I start a torrent, it says, "Torrent Stalled".
[02:28] <NigelS> numus: don't copy
[02:28] <NigelS> numus: use move, mv
[02:28] <ScreaminIke> ok. my processor is mis-matched to my motherboard. functional, but buggy. i get "microcode error" every minute or every othe minute while in tty. which... i know. I KNOW IT'S NOT RIGHT. can i supress this error so it doesn't disturb my framebuffer-apps?
[02:28] <Stoffer> unagi, ?
[02:28] <MSIGuy> mneptok: I'm double checking my port fowarding, I'll be back in a sec.
[02:28] <numus> what is delete
[02:28] <unagi> are you trying to use youre phone as modem? Stoffer
[02:28] <MrElendig> numus: rm
[02:28] <NigelS> numus: rm
[02:28] <Stoffer> unagi, no, just file transfers
[02:28] <Stoffer> unagi, worked fine w/ my old phone
[02:28] <unagi> ok well save that hcid
[02:28] <Stoffer> unagi, the pin you mean?
[02:28] <b14ck73425> im not getting the modes
[02:28] <unagi> the file u just edited
[02:28] <Stoffer> unagi, ok
[02:28] <rolfen> hey guys i have plugged in a new hard drive, bios can see it but fdisk -l doesnt show it.... what am i doing wrong?
[02:28] <Stoffer> unagi, all I had to change was the passkey right?
[02:28] <NigelS> b14ck73425: man chmod for detail - or easily chmod <a|u|g|o>+<x|r|w>
[02:28] <Apple> does any one know were i can get a AMD Athlon XP 3200?
[02:28] <numus> NIGELS FINALLY!
[02:28] <dcordes> Apple, yep I can sell you my old one
[02:28] <unagi> no you should have added a line to the file\
[02:28] <unagi> under passkey "1234" add pin_helper /usr/bin/bluez-pin;
[02:28] <dcordes> Apple, want to sell it
[02:28] <NigelS> numus: ta-da
[02:28] <Stoffer> unagi, I missed that
[02:28] <MSIGuy> It says the port is blacklisted, but I've got it open on my router.
[02:28] <mneptok> rolfen: fdisk -l [-u]  [device ...] 
[02:28] <dcordes> Apple, ~100 euro you can have it
[02:28] <numus> guess it was just reading the wrong plugin
[02:28] <Apple> im in american
[02:28] <Apple> -n
[02:28] <Stoffer> unagi, ok got it
[02:28] <NigelS> numus: yeah, ff doesn't cope with multiple versions in its plugin folder
[02:28] <MrElendig> rolfen: does it show in dmesg?
[02:28] <unagi> now give it a try
[02:28] <Apple> shipping be $$$
[02:28] <dcordes> Apple, where's the problem as long as you are in $WORLD
[02:28] <unagi> when you put in ur pin on ur phone a dialogue should pop up
[02:28] <merkidemis> hmm, so how do I add them back to the panel?  They are already listed in the session under startup
[02:28] <MrElendig> Apple: at the shop
[02:28] <numus> nigels thank you
[02:28] <Apple> what shop?
[02:28] <dcordes> Apple, but that's no ebay here anyways
[02:28] <rolfen> mneptok: let me check dmesg...
[02:28] <NigelS> numus: I mean it could arguably be a bug that they weren't removed by update-alternatives but I think maybe those pckages never worked well with it? who knows
[02:28] <NigelS> numus: np
[02:28] <dcordes> Apple, you will rarely get one at a shop
[02:28] <ellomylove> hello can you recieve my messages... just checking out my new system
[02:28] <cdehaan> Yes.
[02:28] <mneptok> ellomylove: no.
[02:28] <Apple> yeah
[02:28] <ellomylove> thank you bye
[02:28] <Apple> all the ones on ebay are sold as-is
[02:28] <Apple> almost all
[02:28] <Stoffer> unagi, on my compuer?  nothing came up.  my phone says unable to connect
[02:28] <MSIGuy> mneptok: I've got the port opened on my router, but it says its blacklisted.
[02:28] <mneptok> MSIGuy: what says it's blacklisted?
[02:28] <dcordes> Apple, why are you looking for xp3200+? got an old sockel A board?
[02:28] <khin> im trying to use gFTP to download folders recursively off a windows machine. but it just says "recieved ssh url" and some other stuff and doesn't do anything
[02:28] <MSIGuy> Ktorrent says the port is blacklisted.
[02:28] <Apple> dcordes: yup
[02:28] <ellomylove> mneptok: what does that mean
[02:28] <mneptok> MSIGuy: that's not Ubuntu, i guarantee
[02:28] <jvai> easyubuntu is broken with java package... the medi server's out
[02:28] <unagi> hrm im not sure....ive only successfully connected with DUN
[02:28] <rolfen> mneptok: "sudo dmesg|grep sdb" yields nothing at all
[02:28] <dcordes> Apple, and I'm looking for a new board with new cpu :)
[02:28] <mneptok> ellomylove: "no" is a word in English that expresses a negative sentiment
[02:28] <MrElendig> MSIGuy: are you running on a default port?
[02:28] <MSIGuy> Well, I wonder what else it could be?  What should I look for?  I've got it correct on my router.
[02:28] <numus> now
[02:28] <khin> Received URL ssh2 ... etc... & no file transfers occur
[02:28] <rolfen> mneptok: really weird... the bios could see the device
[02:28] <ellomylove> ok thanks
[02:28] <Apple> dcordes: oh?
[02:28] <MSIGuy> MrElendig: Yeah, 6881-6999.
[02:28] <numus> why when i click on something like close ff when i have mulitple tabs i have to click again to get the close mulitple tabs warning
[02:28] <khin> this is dragging & dropping the file into my current directory on Ubuntu
[02:28] <mneptok> rolfen: ls -la /dev/sd*
[02:28] <numus> it does that all the time now with all programs
[02:28] <MrElendig> MSIGuy: don't
[02:28] <numus> i have to click twice to get a message
[02:28] <doms> i cant surf mail.yahoo.com and www.friendster.com using firefox
[02:28] <MrElendig> MSIGuy: alot of trackers blacklist the default port
[02:28] <MrElendig> MSIGuy: some isp's too
[02:28] <rolfen> mneptok: no sdb, only sda 1 to 5
[02:28] <MSIGuy> The tracker UDP port is different, and that's not opened...  one sec.
[02:28] <mneptok> MSIGuy: MrElendig is right. it could be the ISP denying that port's traffic.
[02:28] <MrElendig> so it might be the tracker, and not the router/linux box
[02:28] <dredhammer> is there a way to get real media playback in totem using the xine backend?
[02:28] <MSIGuy> I know my ISP doesn't, runs find on my windows box.
[02:28] <mneptok> rolfen: is it on a SATA/SCSI bus?
[02:28] <dcordes> Apple, oh
[02:28] <rolfen> mneptok: seems the system is not detecting the drive at all
[02:28] <dcordes> so you don't want to buy my one?:(
[02:28] <MrElendig> MSIGuy: change the port, using the 6881- is not smart
[02:28] <rolfen> mneptok: it's on a ata bus
[02:28] <MSIGuy> Why isn't it smart?
[02:28] <mneptok> rolfen: PATA?
[02:28] <MSIGuy> I only use private trackers, and its worked fine before on those.
[02:28] <kitche> !pata | mneptok
[02:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pata - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:28] <kitche> mneptok: IDE
[02:28] <mneptok> kitche: huh?
[02:28] <mneptok> kitche: errr ... i'm asking rolfen ;)
[02:28] <Hitomaro> http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/1940/bfgcardshg7.png (note this is Canadian CURRENCY) but why is there such a small disparity in price? does it speak volumes about the performance?
[02:28] <khin> anybody know why gFTP would say "Received URL ssh2... " etc and then not download the directory recursively after i drag and drop it into my current dir on ubuntu....  or am i doing this wrong
[02:28] <mneptok> kitche: if *i* don't know what PATA is, we're all in very deep trouble
[02:28] <kitche> mneptok: many people don't know what pata is
[02:28] <mneptok> kitche: /whois mneptok ;)
[02:28] <MSIGuy> MrElendig: If I use non standard transfer ports, won't that limit my seeders or is that all taken care of in the client?
[02:28] <doms> i cant surf mail.yahoo.com and www.friendster.com using firefox
[02:28] <MrElendig> MSIGuy: it won't
[02:28] <dk0r> when installing ubuntu studio where do I apply onboard raid controller drivers??
[02:28] <mneptok> MSIGuy: won't matter at all
[02:28] <kitche> mneptok: :P but still doesn't mean that rolfen doesn't know what pata is
[02:28] <MrElendig> MSIGuy: there is no disadvantage with using a non-default port at all
[02:28] <mneptok> kitche: right, but like i said, if *i* don't know .... start loking at Fedora ;)
[02:28] <mneptok> *looking
[02:28] <MSIGuy> Okay, I'll try setting the ports different.
[02:28] <MrElendig> a blacklist msg in a client is usaly the tracker
[02:28] <Hitomaro> (08:15:31 PM) Hitomaro: http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/1940/bfgcardshg7.png (note this is Canadian CURRENCY) but why is there such a small disparity in price? does it speak volumes about the performance?
[02:28] <Hitomaro> anyone?
[02:28] <Hitomaro> =/
[02:28] <NigelS> khin: is this a public ftp? I can test it here if you like
[02:28] <khin> no its an ssh server run by a friend
[02:28] <khin> im going to try another ftp client
[02:28] <MrElendig> Hitomaro: the 6200 card is way outdated
[02:28] <mneptok> khin: you cannot drag elements outside gFTP windows, AFAIK. use the gFTP internals. don't drag things outside its window.
[02:28] <NigelS> khin: so, it's sftp protocol you're using
[02:28] <NigelS> khin: yeah prob a good first start
[02:28] <MrElendig> the 7600 will outperform it by alot
[02:28] <Hitomaro> MrElendig: Why is there such a small difference in price?
[02:28] <Phocion> hey alll......what exactly is "GTKDOCIZE" ???
[02:28] <dredhammer> is there a way to get real media playback in totem using the xine backend?
[02:28] <NigelS> khin: yeah have you used the arrows?
[02:28] <NigelS> dredhammer: yeah
[02:28] <NigelS> dredhammer: follow the restricted formats guide
[02:28] <khin> tried the arrows, doesnt work right...
[02:28] <Phocion> i'm missing some dependancy "gtkdocize".....anyone know where I get it?
[02:28] <NigelS> dredhammer: and use medibuntu to get binary codecs
[02:28] <MrElendig> Hitomaro: ask the shop
[02:28] <Judg3_Dr34D> Hi again, does anyone know why I can't preview a sound in Nautilus when hovering over it? The little bubble comes up but no sound there.
[02:28] <khin> just transfers an empty directory
[02:28] <dooglus> how does one type a 'page up' or a 'pound sign' (like in front of an IRC channel name) on a MacBook?
[02:28] <dredhammer> mediubuntu?
[02:28] <mneptok> khin: then use rsync. the iir structure may be too complex.
[02:28] <dk0r> When installing ubuntu studio where do I apply onboard raid controller drivers?? Can someone please pm me
[02:28] <MSIGuy> MrElendig: Okay, I got it.
[02:28] <mneptok> *dir
[02:28] <IndyLucian> after following the directions to the T, i get this error trying to finalize my compiz install: The following packages have unmet dependencies: compiz: Depends: compiz-decorator  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install compiz compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra compizconfig-settings-manager
[02:28] <doms> i cant surf mail.yahoo.com and www.friendster.com using firefox
[02:28] <MSIGuy> I changed the port, but its only one, doesn't BitTorrent need more than one transfer port for running more than one torrent at a time?
[02:28] <Hitomaro> MrElendig: I assumed there was a high demand for that specific card because of some sort of feature thats a must have..
[02:28] <IndyLucian> take out that last sudo and beyond part
[02:28] <MrElendig> Hitomaro: shops "often" have strange prices for hardware
[02:28] <soneil> dooglus: I think it's AltGr + 3 ... I haven't got bored enough to map one of the apple keys to AltGr yet, however
[02:28] <IndyLucian> !paste
[02:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:28] <MrElendig> specialy "not so professional" ones
[02:28] <Justi1> How do I start "Restricted Drivers Manager" from a command line interface?
[02:28] <Hitomaro> MrElendig: would you buy the 7600GS for $220 canadian?
[02:28] <merzbow> what can I do if I need to install a game which has multiple isos like WoW ... when It says please insert disc 2 ... theres nothing I can do .. I have disc 2 mounted somewhere else ... and I cant unmount disc 1 to mount then disc 2 in the same folder .... any ideas?
[02:28] <MrElendig> Hitomaro: no idea about the prices in canada
[02:28] <IndyLucian> i am having issues installing compiz i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29305/
[02:28] <Justi1> How do I start "Restricted Drivers Manager" from a command line?
[02:28] <Frogzoo> merzbow: wine eject
[02:28] <MrElendig> I woud rather get a 8X serie card tho
[02:28] <IndyLucian> i did the last part of 'apt-get -f install' and it didn't work
[02:30] <merzbow> Frogzoo, is it a command?
[02:30] <kr00lplatinum> anyone want to help me install emerald?
[02:30] <mneptok> Justi1: gksu -D /usr/share/applications/restricted-manager.desktop /usr/bin/restricted-manager
[02:30] <NigelS> dredhammer: please preface replies with a nick or they're hard to spot - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu <-- get the w32codecs following this guide and this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats contains full details of everything else
[02:30] <IndyLucian> kr00lplatinum, in terminal: sudo apt-get install emerald
[02:30] <MrElendig> if the price difference wasn't too bad
[02:30] <Hitomaro> MrElendig: yeah but.. I still need to upgrade from the fx5500 ;)
[02:30] <MrElendig> Hitomaro: link to the webshop?
[02:30] <Hitomaro> staples.ca
[02:30] <dredhammer> ok NigelS thanks
[02:30] <mneptok> Hitomaro: TigerDirect.ca has better prices, IMO
[02:30] <dk0r> When installing ubuntu studio where do I apply onboard raid controller drivers?? Can someone please pm me
[02:34] <Hitomaro> mneptok: I don't shop online..
[02:34] <Hitomaro> =)
[02:34] <andrewkk> mneptok: how does one figure that out?
[02:34] <mneptok> andrewkk: what?
[02:34] <HaYZaM> hello guys
[02:34] <Fezzler> Still having major problem with either X server or GNOME  freezing.  What controls GUI Terminal.  It launches but I get no command prompt.
[02:34] <IndyLucian> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29305/ <- i get that information when trying to install compiz
[02:34] <shavex> so i have Ubuntu on a partition that is 279GB... i would like to make it smaller and then put BackTrack2 on a new partition... how do i do that?
[02:34] <mneptok> andrewkk: the RDM command?
[02:34] <HaYZaM> i am new to Ubunto , and i have a problem with my wireless card
[02:34] <MSIGuy> MrElendig: Its downloading, but I haven't uploaded at more than 1/2kb, even though this is well seeded, it should be more than that.
[02:34] <merzbow> Frogzoo, I did that ..the cd drive opened .... but still it won't let me unmount
[02:34] <Fezzler> I have reinstalled xserver and nvidia drivers
[02:34] <HaYZaM> anyone can help me ?!!
[02:34] <unagi> i was shocked to find that livecd runs wireless
[02:34] <daan> shavex: gparted
[02:34] <unagi> i was like WHHAAAAT?!
[02:34] <andrewkk> mneptok: yeah.
[02:34] <Hitomaro> !seen indygunfreak
[02:34] <Talaman72> IndyGunFreak n=ken@user-0cdv00n.cable.mindspring.com was last seen Mon May 28 07:49:38 2007 joining #ubuntu
[02:38] <mneptok> andrewkk: easiest way is probably editing the menu entry and looking at the command there
[02:38] <shavex> daan, where is gparted located?
[02:38] <andrewkk> mneptok: ah ok.
[02:38] <unagi> shavex sudo apt-get install gparted
[02:40] <HaYZaM>  i am new to Ubuntu , and i have a problem with my wireless network card ,  anyone can help me ?!!
[02:40] <daan> shavex: you can install it in ubuntu or use the gparted livecd
[02:40] <Fezzler> Can anyone help?  Ubuntu 7.04.  628 meg ram.  Athlon 1.2 gHz processor.  Nvidia FX GeoForce AGP 5500.
[02:40] <chapium> HaYZaM: always state your question and not ask for help :)
[02:40] <shavex> unagi, thank you
[02:40] <shavex> daan, thank you
[02:40] <mneptok> andrewkk: cat /usr/share/applications/restricted-manager.desktop
[02:40] <MrElendig> Hitomaro: http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2991791&CatId=318
[02:40] <chapium> HaYZaM: have you tried checking the restricted drivers manager?
[02:40] <Hitomaro> ok
[02:40] <HaYZaM> ok , Broadcom 4311 , Ubuntu
[02:40] <HaYZaM> 6.0
[02:40] <jmchaffie> Ok, well now I'm totally screwed! :) I went through all the processes I could find on the net. Attempted to install the latest greatest nVidia drivers.. and now I'm back to Vesa because I'm all screwed up. Any suggestions?
[02:40] <shavex> how do i log into root on ubuntu?
[02:40] <MrElendig> Hitomaro: agp card you are looking for, right?
[02:40] <kr00lplatinum> ohw do i get emerald working?
[02:40] <HaYZaM> ok , Broadcom 4311 , Ubuntu 6.06
[02:40] <mneptok> shavex: you don't. use sudo.
[02:40] <mneptok> !sudo > shavex
[02:40] <baikonur> where do I can get a list of key names used by gtk-key-theme-name (~/.gtkrc-2.0). I'm looking for the name of the numblock enter key
[02:40] <shavex> i did, but it says that to run gparted i must be root
[02:40] <HaYZaM> on the ifconfig , it reads there is a connection , iwconfig , NOTHING
[02:40] <chapium> HaYZaM: are you able to enable it through the restricted driver manager?
[02:40] <chapium> ah
[02:40] <Hitomaro> MrElendig: no
[02:40] <mneptok> shavex: gksudo gparted
[02:40] <jmchaffie> I looked everywhere, I tried Envy but it really screwed things up. Is there now apt-get package for the latest nVidia drivers?
[02:40] <MrElendig> Hitomaro: pci-express?
[02:44] <Hitomaro> MrElendig: but is that one a good buy?
[02:44] <Hitomaro> no to pci-e
[02:44] <dk0r> When installing ubuntu studio where do I apply onboard raid controller drivers?? Can someone please pm me
[02:44] <Fezzler> "Applications Places System"  <----- are they X server or GNOME?  They keep locking up!  But Gaim is still running.  WHat's wrong?
[02:44] <mneptok> Hitomaro: what is the goal of this card? Ubuntu only, or with Windows for games?
[02:44] <Amgine> Where is the mysql basedir? /var/lib/mysql?
[02:44] <macogw> hey anyone know how to get (of if it's possible with the linux driver) 1024x768 on an ATI Rage II? It uses the open source driver, and 1024x768 is its max resolution, but I'm only getting 800x600
[02:44] <Hitomaro> mneptok: games for windows & ubuntu
[02:44] <mneptok> macogw?
[02:44] <Pelo> !ati | macogw
[02:44] <ubotu> macogw: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:44] <shavex> alright so i have gparted up and running, but i cant resize the partition
[02:44] <mneptok> Hitomaro: then i shall STFU :)
[02:44] <macogw> Pelo: thats for binary drivers
[02:44] <dooglus> someone said my name?  I can't scroll up to see what was said, 'cos I can't type PgUp on this MacBook :(
[02:44] <MrElendig> ah, for pci-e I woud get a 8600 srie card
[02:44] <kitche> Pelo: by chance how does that help him with a Rage II?
[02:44] <jmchaffie> macogw: have you tried enabling the Restricted drivers?
[02:44] <MrElendig> or a 8800 if you got money and are willing to spend
[02:44] <macogw> Pelo: this card isn't supported by the binary drivers, it only can use the open source drivers
[02:44] <Pelo> macogw,  best I can do for you , that or the forum
[02:44] <macogw> kitche: i'm a she
[02:44] <jmchaffie> ah ok.
[02:44] <kitche> Rage II can not use Restricted drivers it's about 11 years old
[02:44] <Hitomaro> MrElendig: no pci-e support :)
[02:44] <Pelo> macogw,  just adding the resolutions you need to xorg.conf doesn't work for you ?
[02:44] <Hitomaro> agp/pci only
[02:44] <jmchaffie> My bad.
[02:44] <TheManiacKY> okay I'm confussed. Is Ubuntu Studio made by/supported by Canonical just like 7.04?
[02:44] <MrElendig> Hitomaro: you just said that you was after a pci-e
[02:44] <dk0r> When installing ubuntu studio where do I apply onboard raid controller drivers?? Can someone please pm me
[02:44] <macogw> jmchaffie: i didnt know if maybe there's something like intel's 915resolution for ati
[02:44] <macogw> Pelo: no
[02:44] <Tybion> dumb question - are my xchat connections, etc. logged somewhere in my computer
[02:44] <kitche> macogw: well he in that way is generic :)
[02:44] <macogw> Pelo: at least i dont think i overlooked that...
[02:44] <Hitomaro> MrElendig: I said no to pci-e.. I only have AGP support.. thats why I was talking about the 7600GS
[02:44] <Pelo> TheManiacKY,  as far as I know ubuntu studio is someone's repackage of ubuntu with a few extras in the default installation
[02:44] <MrElendig> for agp the 7900gs or 7600gt are probably the best price/performance
[02:44] <mneptok> macogw: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[02:44] <macogw> Pelo: ok yeah i did add the resolution to xorg.conf
[02:44] <Pelo> macogw,   gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:44] <Hitomaro> pci-e would be my 1st option if I had that support
[02:44] <Hitomaro> they're cheaper too
[02:44] <MrElendig> for nvida cards that is
[02:44] <jmchaffie> macogw: I remember, although not on ubuntu, I had suse 7.3 installed with a Rage II and got 1024 x 768 no problems. I think you need to dig for old drivers probably. Also might want to dig through your xorg.conf.. might be that simple
[02:44] <macogw> Pelo: i'm looking at it in vi right now
[02:44] <Pelo> macogw,  to every colour dept and also I think there is someting about replacing  nvidia with nv in one of the device entries
[02:44] <MrElendig> macogw: lies
[02:44] <Hitomaro> MrElendig: nvidia are the only cards I buy
[02:44] <Hitomaro> :)
[02:44] <macogw> Pelo: thats for nvidia
[02:44] <MrElendig> macogw: you are looking at it in vim
[02:44] <TheManiacKY> Where can I download new Login themes? I really like the one in Studio.
[02:44] <Pelo> macogw,  sorry I got confused,  I'm no good with hardware stuff
[02:44] <macogw> MrElendig: ok thats true since vim is aliased to vi
[02:44] <macogw> MrElendig: i type it as vi though :p
[02:44] <Pelo> TheManiacKY,  www.gnome-look.org ,  look under gdm themes
[02:44] <TheManiacKY> thanks
[02:44] <Hitomaro> MrElendig: http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/cat_sku.asp?CatIds=83%2C88%2C3157,306&webid=675071&affixedcode=WW
[02:44] <MrElendig> still vim, unless you are on some realy old unix
[02:44] <shavex> how do i resize the partition that i am on?
[02:44] <jmchaffie> macogw: what is it currently defined as under devices?
[02:44] <doms> how to unlbock  friendster websites
[02:44] <doms> how to unblock  friendster websites
[02:44] <Pelo> shavex,  you can't you need to boot up the live cd
[02:44] <doms> how to unblock  friendster websites and youtubes
[02:44] <MrElendig> shavex: what filesystem
[02:44] <macogw> MrElendig: why does ubuntu have the bad vim by default now?
[02:44] <inazad> It is possible to recreate a private key with the public key ?
[02:44] <mneptok> doms: please stop repeating
[02:44] <macogw> jmchaffie: under devices?
[02:44] <MrElendig> macogw: vim isn't bad, vi is
[02:44] <macogw> jmchaffie: you mean in xorg?
[02:44] <Fezzler> What do I do if GNOME Freezes up!  Ctrl Alt BKSP brings me to Login, after login, blank blue scree with gray rectangle in upper left.
[02:44] <Pelo> doms,  what do you mean unblock, what is your problem ?
[02:44] <jmchaffie> macogw: yes, in xorg.conf
[02:44] <dk0r> When installing ubuntu studio where do I apply onboard raid controller drivers?? Can someone please pm me
[02:44] <shavex> MrElendig, linux, i have booted up in BackTrack and tried using QTparted but it wont let me when i click on the partition, i can only resize the swap
[02:44] <macogw> MrElendig: in dapper's vim, if you used arrow keys in insert mode, it worked. in feisty's vim, it shows one of the first four letters of the alphabet because it's not a full vim install
[02:44] <kitche> dk0r: #ubuntustudio for studio help
[02:44] <Pelo> Fezzler,  did gnome ever work on your comp ?
[02:44] <jmchaffie> macogw: is it setup as "Vesa" or "ati" or.... ?
[02:44] <Fezzler> Pelo: Yup, great from months.
[02:44] <MSIGuy> So I'm having troubles with my torrents.
[02:44] <MSIGuy> I've got them downloading fine, but not uploading anything.
[02:44] <shavex> Pelo, i did boot up into a livecd and ran qtparted but it wouldnt let me resize the partition... only the swap could be resized
[02:44] <dk0r> kitche: #ubuntustudio referenced me to #ubuntu/ubuntuforum
[02:44] <Pelo> Fezzler,  what is the last thing you did before it got borked ?
[02:44] <doms> Pelo: i cant browse  www.friendster.com and www.yahoo.com  i'am using firefox and i'am not using proxy
[02:44] <MSIGuy> I've got the port for downloading unblocked, along with the tracker announce, any other things to check?
[02:44] <MrElendig> MSIGuy: my experience is that azureus for gui and rtorrent for cli is alot better than ktorrent
[02:44] <mneptok> Fezzler: use a console login to move things like ~/.gnome2 and ~/.gconf aside, ONE BY ONE, until you find what GNOME config zone is being cranky
[02:44] <Pelo> shavenger,  you need to unmount it first , and you can'T rezise to the left , you need to move it first
[02:44] <jvai> <-- torrents probs to! me thinks it's the network, not ubuntu
[02:44] <Fezzler> Pelo: Well, I remember trying to improve sound and installed ALSA.
[02:44] <dcordes> MSIGuy, rtorrent
[02:44] <kitche> dk0r: well last time I checked studio is not supported in this channel but you can go tot he forums if you wish
[02:44] <jvai> isp bandwidth throttling
[02:44] <MSIGuy> I want a gui.
[02:44] <Pelo> Fezzler,  I'm stumped,  try the forum
[02:44] <Fezzler> Pelo: I also was starting to use recordmydesktop.
[02:44] <MSIGuy> And I thought ktorrent was the closest thing to utorrent in windows.
[02:44] <mneptok> MSIGuy: for my money, NOTHING beats BitTornado from the command line.
[02:44] <jmchaffie> macogw: you find it in xorg.conf yet?
[02:44] <MSIGuy> I don't want command line though.
[02:44] <macogw> jmchaffie: hang on i'm getting the non-annoying vim
[02:44] <Fezzler> Pelo: can I reinstall gdm or GNOME from command prompt?
[02:44] <shavex> Pelo, it wouldnt let me move it either, and where would i move it? it and the swap are taking up the whole HD
[02:44] <Pelo> Fezzler,  boot the recovery mode,  and sudo apt-get install remove recordmydesktop,  and also try to reisntall gnome
[02:44] <Hitomaro> whats better a video card with 256MB DDR or 512MB DDR?
[02:44] <mneptok> MSIGuy: i think you're on the right track with kTorrent, then.
[02:44] <jmchaffie> macogw: lol.. ok
[02:44] <unagi> how do you restart x server from the terminal
[02:44] <Pelo> shavex, reinstall , save your selff sometrouble
[02:44] <MSIGuy> And I had problems with Azerus because of the outdated repositority.
[02:44] <mneptok> unagi: startx
[02:44] <Hitomaro> (08:37:36 PM) Hitomaro: whats better a video card with 256MB DDR or 512MB DDR?
[02:44] <unagi> i remember a command that requred a stop then start
[02:44] <Fezzler> Pelo: Recovery mode is an option when I hit escape at boot up?
[02:44] <macogw> unagi: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (if you do mean restart and not just start)
[02:44] <Pelo> Fezzler,  yes you can,   sudo apt-get install ...
[02:44] <jmchaffie> unagi: /etc/init.d/gdmrestart
[02:44] <MSIGuy> Maybe I'll try it from source later, but I doubt its the client causing my problems now, but my config.
[02:44] <unagi> thank you
[02:44] <MrElendig> Hitomaro: dosn't realy matter for agp cards
[02:44] <Pelo> Fezzler,  yes,  should be the second from the top
[02:44] <Hitomaro> ok thanks MrElendig
[02:44] <MrElendig> Hitomaro:  you probably won't run at realy big resolutions
[02:44] <unagi> im about to run maya and it will probably crash me
[02:44] <Macskeeball> I just made a blog entry about using cron and Twitter for automated notifications of update availability. I thought others might find it useful, and would appreciate some thoughts on it. http://macskeeball.wordpress.com/2007/07/10/using-twitter-for-software-update-notifications
[02:44] <Fezzler> Pelo: sudo apt-get install gdm  ????
[02:44] <unagi> ctrl + alt + shift + f6 takes me to the console right?
[02:44] <jmchaffie> unagi: /etc/init.d/gdm stop ... then just ... gdm
[02:44] <MrElendig> like 1680x1050 with full aa and af
[02:44] <jmchaffie> either way
[02:45] <Hitomaro> for my plasma
[02:45] <Hitomaro> yeah
[02:45] <unagi> ok brb i  might crash
[02:45] <cables> unagi, ctrl-shift-f1-6 will take you into any of your 6 vtty's
[02:45] <inazad> It is possible to recreate a private key with the public key ?
[02:45] <ScreaminIke> my processor is mis-matched to my motherboard. i know. i should get a new processor. no money right now, though. in any case, i get this error any time i'm in tty. about every minute. it makes tty unusable. can i just supress this error until i get a new processor?
[02:45] <Macskeeball> ianazad: no
[02:45] <Pelo> Fezzler,  I don'T know the exact name of the package,  so try this,  gdm then hit the tab key twice it will bring up the available package with gdm it in
[02:45] <MrElendig> because the  framerate will be to low anyway to be usable
[02:45] <Hitomaro> MrElendig, I will be running really big resolutions
[02:45] <Hitomaro> so is the 512 better?
[02:45] <MrElendig> Hitomaro: bu not with full aa and af
[02:45] <MSIGuy> Any ideas on why I am not uploading?
[02:45] <MrElendig> I guess
[02:45] <MrElendig> but*
[02:45] <Macskeeball> ianazad: I suggest you listen to the older Security Now episodes on crypto
[02:45] <Hitomaro> ok thanks MrElendig... thanks a lot
[02:45] <Hitomaro> bye
[02:45] <Pelo> gtg, later folks
[02:45] <jmchaffie> Ok, anyone have a resource for nVidia latest drivers via apt-get? Rather than all of the crazy processes I've found?
[02:45] <MariusAZ> Does ubuntu use Licknuts or Unix?
[02:45] <macogw> jmchaffie: driver says ati
[02:45] <xTaJMoX> MariusAZ: This is a support channel.  For silly talk go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:45] <MariusAZ> I wasn't trying to be silly
[02:45] <MariusAZ> I'm sorry
[02:45] <xTaJMoX> It uses the Linux kernel
[02:45] <jmchaffie> macogw: ok... scrolling down to your screens... do your resolution lists include 1024 x 768? or do they start lower?
[02:45] <xTaJMoX> Which does NOT lick nuts.  =p
[02:45] <knix> That is up for debate:)
[02:45] <macogw> jmchaffie: on the low color depth i didnt edit it, but on 16 and 24 i had already added 1024x768
[02:45] <xTaJMoX> knix: you use the bsd kernel?
[02:45] <jmchaffie> macogw: you need to add it to ALL of the colors
[02:45] <knix> I use many kernels
[02:45] <knix> but not in ubuntu :F
[02:45] <atrayo> does anybody know the simplest, easiest way to add a screen resolution higher than 1024X768 to the screen resolution drop down menu?
[02:45] <jmchaffie> macogw: or it doesn't recognize it as a valid option
[02:45] <person51090> Which are better? Xgl/AIGLX and Compiz/Beryl?
[02:45] <person51090> What's the best combination?
[02:45] <person51090> I'm happy with your opinions
[02:45] <macogw> jmchaffie: thats weird...ive heard of where someone could only get a resolution if it was only on low color depths before though
[02:45] <xTaJMoX> atrayo: depends on what card you have.   The best way is to edit your /etc/X11/xorg or do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:45] <ScreaminIke> http://sial.org/pbot/26161
[02:45] <unagi_> sigh
[02:45] <unagi_> i crashed......and i couldnt get to the terminal
[02:45] <shavex> person51090, Compiz/Beryl
[02:45] <bobsomebody> silly question, i hooked up wifi and set it to 192.168.2.1 (lan @ 192.168.1.1), i cannot get ssh to my desktop but i can ssh my server
[02:45] <macogw> unagi_: how did you crash that bad?
[02:45] <Justi1> is there a way to open 'restricted drivers manager' from a text only mode (x server is not working)?
[02:45] <unagi_> maya crashes when you press space bar
[02:45] <jmchaffie> macogw: well, I'm not sure about that, but from personal experience, that's what I have found to be true when I've had the same difficulty. Could just be a coincidence I suppose on my part....
[02:45] <person51090> shavex: the question was do I want Xgl and beryl, or AIGLX and compiz, or what?
[02:45] <unagi_> it is ctrl + alt + shift + 6 right?
[02:45] <macogw> unagi_: yeah so then go to a virtual terminal (ctrl alt f1)
[02:45] <atrayo> Ok, thanks xTajmox! What is the best way to figure out my card from within ubuntu? (i'm sorry for my lack of knowledge)
[02:45] <shavex> person51090, you want Compiz Fusion
[02:45] <bobsomebody> any ideas #ubuntu?
[02:45] <xTaJMoX> atrayo: in terminal type lspci |grep vga
[02:45] <Justi1> is there a way to open 'restricted drivers manager' from a text only mode
[02:45] <shavex> person51090, its Compiz and Beryl mixed together
[02:45] <person51090> shavex: it's not out yet, is it? when's the release?
[02:45] <jmchaffie> macogw: also, at the bottom, do you have composite "0" or "enable"?
[02:45] <MrElendig> bobsomebody: can you ping your desktop?
[02:45] <shavex> person51090, its out cuz i have it on my ubuntu feisty
[02:45] <shavex> person51090, just google it
[02:45] <person51090> shavex: a stable release? and are you running xgl or aiglx?
[02:46] <bobsomebody> yeah can ping both
[02:46] <atrayo> does | mean hit enter b4 proceeding to the next line?
[02:46] <shavex> person51090, xgl
[02:46] <xTaJMoX> bobsomebody: I think you want your ip to be 192.168.1.2 not 2.1 or you'll be in a different gateway address
[02:46] <bobsomebody> actually, all pings work from any 2 points on my network
[02:46] <MrElendig> bobsomebody: check the /etc/hosts.allow and .deny at the desktop
[02:46] <ystd__> hello could someone please help out a newb: what is the command to like keep root priveleges and not have to type sudo in front of every command? thanks
[02:46] <jmchaffie> macogw: what did you end up with?
[02:47] <shavex> person51090, i dont know about stable, but it works perfect for me
[02:47] <unagi> does anyone here run maya?
[02:47] <haxed> We need channels with 50+ members to not print the joins and quits...
[02:47] <person51090> shavex: thanks much
[02:47] <xTaJMoX> atrayo - no in unix | means "pipe to" which is kinda like running 2 commands at the same time
[02:47] <NigelS> ystd__: well the idea there is you only invoke root privileges when you need to - if you want to open a session with root privs type sudo -s
[02:47] <bobsomebody> MrElendig, they are not defined
[02:47] <ponicg> Is it possible to upgrade to 2.6.22 in Edgy?
[02:47] <mneptok> haxed: that's entirely a client-side function
[02:47] <xTaJMoX> ystd__: sudo -i
[02:49] <ystd__> Nigels: thanks
[02:49] <MrElendig> ponicg: you can always compile it yourself
[02:49] <xTaJMoX> unagi: used to!   back in the day
[02:49] <ponicg> MrElendig, Nod. I figured that. Will it break anything, however?
[02:49] <NigelS> haxed: that's not a server decision in the protocol iirc, it's a client decision as to how noisy things are, you can /ignore joins and quits in most clients on a per channel basis
[02:49] <unagi> hrm
[02:49] <ponicg> MrElendig, I've had trouble upgrading past 2.6.10... it seems to nuke my video driver somehow(and I've confirmed it wasnt' blacklisted)
[02:49] <bobsomebody> xTaJMoX, i can ssh server @ 192.168.1.1 from the laptop tho
[02:49] <unagi> mine keeps crashing
[02:49] <unagi> but apparently there is an sp1
[02:49] <unagi> im going to try that....sorry for flood
[02:49] <ponicg> err 2.6.17
[02:49] <haxed> Ok I ignored joins and quits
[02:49] <haxed> rifk
[02:49] <MrElendig> ponicg: not if you know how to compile a kernel, and that 2.6.22 won't crash with your hardware
[02:49] <unagi> i think in fragments =( bad for irc channels
[02:49] <haxed> wait shit no i didn't...
[02:49] <ponicg> MrElendig, I guess worst case I can step back to 2.6.17 if I don't delete it...
[02:49] <MrElendig> ponicg: if it won't boot, then you can always boot the old kernel instead...
[02:49] <unagi> why do i have 2 kernels in my grub....15 and 16
[02:49] <mneptok> haxed: get a real client :P
[02:49] <haxed> mIRC is what real men use.
[02:49] <NigelS> unagi: since you installed there has been an update and the newer 16 has been prepended to your grub config
[02:49] <haxed> lel.
[02:49] <xTaJMoX> unagi: the older one is kept in case you have problems with the newer one - you can un-install it or remove it from the menu.lst
[02:50] <mneptok> haxed: uh ... :)
[02:50] <unagi> so if 16 doesnt load 15 might?
[02:50] <haxed> lol
[02:50] <meme_> Hello, i can watch Apple quicktime trailers , but there is no sound , any idea what i need?
[02:50] <jmchaffie> macogw: you can also check your modes, I double checked an old database, and have a sample that should help you...
[02:50] <unagi> a sound card? meme_
[02:50] <h1st0> !codec > meme
[02:50] <NigelS> haxed: well I suppose if real men are 15 yr old xp users and people who think that scripts showing their CPU/mem usage are cool then yes
[02:50] <h1st0> !codec > meme_
[02:50] <meme_> what one?
[02:50] <NigelS> haxed: personally I prefer netcat :P
[02:50] <xTaJMoX> unagi - if 16 is working fine for you - you can remove 15 if you really want.  It's good to keep the other one as a backup
[02:51] <meme_> I thought i had them all
[02:51] <unagi> thats cool i was just wondering i guess
[02:51] <r0b-> are ubuntu apps made with c++ or vb
[02:51] <unagi> im learning so much from you guys =)
[02:51] <doms> help help i cant surf www.friendster.com
[02:51] <jvai> meme - quicktime plugins for firefox
[02:51] <meme_> it plays the movie in firefox just not the sound
[02:52] <xTaJMoX> r0b-: vb is for making windows programs.   there are many programming languages used in linux, most of them are some sort of C and Python
[02:52] <macogw> jmchaffie: firefox still looks stupidly huge, so i think its still 800x600
[02:52] <ian_wax> dadblast, i have been having problems with every USB external drive i own. how do i format it once and for all so that it works on ubuntu and not just windows?
[02:52] <r0b-> ok thanks
[02:52] <macogw> r0b-: python is a good one for starting out with
[02:52] <jmchaffie> macogw: ok ... do you have the 1024 x 768 option in your drop-down list?
[02:52] <bthornton> I've got a Linux host with two NICs in it: one is hooked up to the "main network", and the other is connected to a WAP (which gets its IP statically).  Is it possible to configure my Linux host to indescriminately forward all packets back and forth between the WAP connected on one NIC to the main network connected on the other NIC?
[02:52] <macogw> r0b-: its probably about the same difficulty level as vb
[02:52] <xTaJMoX> ian_wax: format it to the ext3 or ext2 type.  Then get fs-driver so you can use it in windoze
[02:53] <unagi> !fs-driver
[02:53] <ian_wax> how exactly do i do that?
[02:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fs-driver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:53] <macogw> jmchaffie: do you know the command to run that thing that asks for what res  you want?
[02:53] <xTaJMoX> http://www.fs-driver.org
[02:53] <macogw> jmchaffie: at a glance, i dont see it in the fluxbox menu
[02:53] <atrayo> xTajmox, sorry for the delay it is 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 04)
[02:53] <macogw> jmchaffie: this computer cant run gnome very well (heck, it seems to choke on fluxbox)
[02:53] <jmchaffie> macogw: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[02:53] <macogw> jmchaffie: feisty
[02:53] <xTaJMoX> atrayo ok so you have the intel i910 video card.
[02:53] <macogw> jmchaffie: but i uninstall gnome because it's too heavy
[02:53] <NigelS> bthornton: you mean turn on forwarding? yes
[02:54] <jmchaffie> macogw: go to "system - preferences - screen resolution"
[02:54] <macogw> jmchaffie: no gnome...
[02:54] <atrayo> Oh ok im going to write that down
[02:54] <ian_wax> for the time being... how would i format my drive via linux?
[02:54] <macogw> ian_wax: mkfs
[02:54] <xTaJMoX> atrayo: you might want to try the 915resolution program.
[02:54] <jmchaffie> macogw: ah ok... kde?
[02:54] <ian_wax> mkfs in synaptic?
[02:54] <unagi> does fs driver work for ext3?
[02:54] <macogw> jmchaffie: fluxbox
[02:54] <xTaJMoX> !info 915resolution | atrayo
[02:54] <ubotu> atrayo: 915resolution: resolution modification tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2-10ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 14 kB, installed size 124 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)
[02:54] <macogw> ian_wax: in the command line
[02:54] <xTaJMoX> unagi: yes
[02:54] <bthornton> NigelS: and insofaras I've done "echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward", I have enabled ip forwarding.  But it's still not forwarding packets freely
[02:54] <r0b-> i can do a simple perl print thing
[02:54] <r0b-> lol
[02:54] <atrayo> Excellent!! Thanks a ton, Xtajmox!
[02:54] <unagi> i have problems that mp3s dont like to come off external drives
[02:54] <NigelS> bthornton: you need to masquerade
[02:54] <jmchaffie> macogw: oh ok.. shoot, never have run it so I don't know. :(
[02:55] <jmchaffie> macogw: let me find out real quick
[02:55] <xTaJMoX> ian_wax: I like gparted
[02:55] <ian_wax> cd  ..../desktop/new volume first?
[02:55] <tinin> Can I switch with mousewheel between desktops If I use it on the desktop?
[03:03] <ian_wax> i am rather new to linux
[03:03] <macogw> jmchaffie: maybe after i take this comp up to a whopping 385mb (the max it can support) it'll be able to run gnome :p
[03:03] <xTaJMoX> ian_wax sudo apt-get insatll gparted   then type gparted
[03:03] <h1st0> tinin: i'm sure it can be done
[03:03] <jmchaffie> macogw: run "xrandr"
[03:03] <khin> mneptok, how do i connect to an ssh server using rsync
[03:03] <ffm> How do I view the output of my boot? Like the stuff with hte FAIL in it?
[03:03] <macogw> xTaJMoX: i think gparted needs sudo
[03:03] <h1st0> ffm: dmesg
[03:03] <bijacks> I just downloaded the live DVD version of opensuse 10.2. to my windows XP machine. I've burned Cd versions of live distributions before but not DVD versions to a DVD. What utility do I need for Windows Xp to burn this ISO image to a DVD? Can anyone please help me? I would really appreciate it. You can tell I'm new to Linux.
[03:03] <ffm> h1st0, (/me n00b) how do I use that, just in a terminal?
[03:03] <jmchaffie> macogw: xrandr -s (whatever option is 1024 x 768) i.e. xrandr -s 2
[03:03] <xTaJMoX> macogw: oh yeah... it'll give him a popup =] 
[03:03] <doms>  anybody causing a problem that some websites cant be accessable using firefox
[03:03] <macogw> jmchaffie: that option isnt showing
[03:03] <doms>  anybody causing a problem that some websites cant be accessable using firefox
[03:03] <soneil> bijacks: assuming you've got a dvd writer, it should be exactly the same process as CDs
[03:03] <h1st0> ffm: yes I think thats what you are looking for.  and dmesg -c will clear it I believe let me chec
[03:03] <macogw> jmchaffie: on dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg i told it to add 1024x768 60Hz but it doesnt seem like it did
[03:03] <MrElendig> doms: yes, and they are all caused by lazy/stupid webmasters
[03:03] <jmchaffie> macogw: ok then, vi your xorg.conf again and let me give you exactly what to put in there... I checked an old conf and I have what you need here for a rage II
[03:03] <MrElendig> doms: that makes their site IE only
[03:03] <h1st0> ffm: yeah sudo dmesg -c will clear it then you can reboot and get a fresh one.
[03:03] <bijacks> I have a program that will burn the ISO images to CDS but not DVDS
[03:03] <ian_wax> i got this error message: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:03] <ian_wax> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:03] <xTaJMoX> tinin: right click on the workspaces panel applet and go to properties.   i believe the mousewheel option is in there
[03:03] <jmchaffie> macogw: SubSection "Display"
[03:03] <jmchaffie> Depth 1
[03:03] <jmchaffie> Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[03:03] <jmchaffie> EndSubSection
[03:03] <ffm> h1st0, thanks.
[03:03] <xTaJMoX> ian_wax: you probably have synaptic open ... close it
[03:03] <rathel> I ripped a few of my movies to .iso format, how do I play them in totem like I would a normal dvd?
[03:03] <MrElendig> bijacks: if the iso was made for a cd then it won't work to burn it to a dvd
[03:03] <ian_wax> my bad, thanks
[03:03] <jmchaffie> macogw: check your private message
[03:03] <ian_wax> then get gparted
[03:03] <macogw> jmchaffie: i dont have 1280x1024 listed s it cant do that
[03:03] <xTaJMoX> bijacks: I like gnomebaker for burning iso dvd's
[03:03] <khin> hi im trying to download stuff from an ssh server recursively with gFTP but it just transfers an empty folder or does nothing. is there something else i can use. someone said use rsync can i do this?
[03:03] <macogw> jmchaffie: i didnt get a pm
[03:03] <someone2005> I'm new to linux and would like to know what the best way to unblock my email attachments ...So my email actually send with an attachment...Any Ideas ?
[03:03] <bijacks> It was downloaded to burn to DVD
[03:03] <dk0r> anyone seen ivory, akoustik piano or pianoteq (vst pianos) working?
[03:03] <h1st0> khin: sftp
[03:03] <jmchaffie> macogw: that's ok... trust me it will give you the other options though.
[03:03] <jmchaffie> macogw: hmmm I will try it again...
[03:03] <bijacks> I believe it was about 1.7gb
[03:03] <ian_wax> how do i get gparted to run??
[03:03] <h1st0> ian_wax: alt+f2 and type in gparted
[03:03] <MrElendig> khin: if you got ssh access, why not use nautilus?
[03:03] <macogw> jmchaffie: you have to add a resolution higher than possible to get the highest possible? O_o that sounds a bit messed up
[03:03] <doms> MrElendig: buy even i download ie4linux i cant still browse that pages
[03:03] <ian_wax> do i have to run nautilus beforehand?
[03:03] <xTaJMoX> ian_wax sudo gparted in a terminal
[03:03] <macogw> ian_wax: or go system > administration > gnome partition
[03:03] <MrElendig> khin: Places -> Connect to server
[03:03] <xTaJMoX> h1st0: it needs gksudo
[03:03] <ian_wax> it asks for root priviledges
[03:03] <macogw> ian_wax: just type your password
[03:03] <xTaJMoX> ian_wax: alt-f2    gksudo gparted
[03:03] <unagi> ian_wax tell me your password
[03:03] <h1st0> ian_wax: yeah sry just gksudo gparted
[03:03] <macogw> xTaJMoX: he's past that
[03:03] <xTaJMoX> unagi: you can get kicked for that
[03:03] <h1st0> lol
[03:03] <unagi> really?
[03:03] <h1st0> yes
[03:03] <unagi> =(
[03:03] <macogw> xTaJMoX: he's up to being asked for the passy
[03:03] <xTaJMoX> i would
[03:03] <jmchaffie> macogw: well my client is telling me I've sent you the info in chat twice, so I can just send it in here if you will watch for it and copy it
[03:03] <ian_wax> :S
[03:03] <r0b-> how can i obtain the ubuntu source code
[03:03] <unagi> i didnt know lol im just bored
[03:03] <macogw> jmchaffie: i'm in a VT
[03:03] <jmchaffie> ah ok
[03:03] <someone2005> would I need to set some type of privlege ?
[03:03] <macogw> jmchaffie: not quite sure how you c&p with that
[03:03] <unagi> can i even do  much harm with someones password?
[03:03] <nickkkkkname> if i'm connecting to an ubuntu box from os x, and already shared the needed folder as windows (smb) share, what do i use as the username and password?
[03:03] <unagi> i dont even know how to connect to someones pc over the net
[03:03] <macogw> unagi: sure if you ssh into their box
[03:03] <pike_> r0b-: apt-get source packagename :)
[03:03] <mneptok> khin: still there?
[03:03] <unagi> tell me more about this ssh macogw
[03:03] <unagi> =)
[03:03] <h1st0> nickkkkkname: whatever you specified in shamba for the user and pass.
[03:03] <xTaJMoX> !ssh
[03:03] <r0b-> no
[03:03] <r0b-> i mean the ubuntu source for like making it
[03:03] <r0b-> :P
[03:03] <jmchaffie> macogw: well... open something to type this into ... I will do it line at a time
[03:03] <macogw> !secureshell
[03:03] <ian_wax> it still asks for root privildeges
[03:03] <atrayo> thanks ubotu, I just caught that when I scrolled back, I'll be sure and check that out. thanks everyone!
[03:03] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[03:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about secureshell - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:03] <macogw> ian_wax: should be asking for your password
[03:03] <xTaJMoX> !botsnack
[03:03] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[03:03] <ian_wax> it doesn't
[03:03] <nickkkkkname> h1st0: i didn't set anything; it just set as shared automatically
[03:03] <macogw> ian_wax: what does it say exactly?
[03:03] <jmchaffie> macogw: SubSection "Display"
[03:03] <macogw> ian_wax: there is no root password on ubuntu
[03:03] <macogw> ian_wax: root account is locked
[03:03] <h1st0> nickkkkkname: well you have it requesting a user and pass is that what you want?  Or do you not want it to ask?
[03:03] <macogw> ian_wax: unless...you using debian?
[03:03] <jmchaffie> macogw: Depth 1
[03:03] <xTaJMoX> ian_wax: close gparted.   press alt-f2.   type gksudo gparted
[03:03] <kitche> ian_wax: sudo <command> or gksu <command>
[03:03] <macogw> jmchaffie: mmhmm
[03:03] <MrElendig> macogw: it's not locked, just not enabled :)
[03:03] <jvai> sounds like bastille installed on ubuntu
[03:03] <macogw> MrElendig: sudo root passwd -L
[03:03] <nickkkkkname> h1st0: not ask
[03:03] <Xago> guys...for some reason when I type anything the 'l' letter it is not responding correctly...except when I mark caps lock and shift key to get this letter
[03:17] <macogw> jmchaffie: i have depths 1, 4, 8, 15, 16, 24
[03:17] <jmchaffie> macogw: Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[03:17] <ian_wax> root priviledges are required for running gparted ...................Since GParted can be a weapon of mass destruction only root may run it.
[03:17] <jmchaffie> macogw: EndSubSection
[03:17] <h1st0> nickkkkkname: let me get you a good howto then hold up
[03:17] <macogw> jmchaffie: and all of them have Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[03:17] <jmchaffie> macogw: do that for any and ALL depths you have
[03:17] <r0b-> i wanna take a look at ubuntu's source code
[03:17] <r0b-> where can i downlkoad it
[03:17] <macogw> ian_wax: sudo-ing makes you have root's powers
[03:17] <jmchaffie> macogw: ok
[03:17] <ian_wax> beautiful
[03:19] <ian_wax> gksu worked
[03:19] <unagi> sudo-ing can give you super hero powers to
[03:19] <macogw> r0b-: there's a lot of it and it's spread across a lot of packages
[03:19] <MrElendig> r0b-: source code for what?
[03:19] <MrElendig> the kernel?
[03:19] <macogw> r0b-: to get the source for each package "apt-get source $packageName"
[03:19] <r0b-> yea
[03:19] <h1st0> nickkkkkname: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_share_public_folders_with_read.2Fwrite_permissions_.28Authentication.3DNo.29
[03:19] <r0b-> i want the kernam
[03:19] <r0b-> :)
[03:19] <macogw> r0b-: the kernel source is on kernel.org
[03:19] <jmchaffie> macogw: let me check one more thing... and just for grins... add in the 1280x1024 to one of them and try looking atxrandr again
[03:19] <khin> mneptok i was able to do it using Ubuntu's "connect to server" feature
[03:19] <h1st0> r0b-: apt-get the source packages
[03:19] <xTaJMoX> Xago - Go into your keyboard settings and see if you haven't changed the map or set a shortcut for l
[03:19] <khin> mneptok,  however seeing as this is not portable it would be nice to know something more robust
[03:19] <macogw> r0b-: and if vb's all you know, the kernel will be way out of range of anything you can make sense of
[03:19] <MrElendig> khin: for ssh then sshfs is THE BEST to use
[03:19] <ian_wax> inside gparted it won't allow me to reformat the drive
[03:19] <MrElendig> khin: the connect too uses sshfs
[03:19] <r0b-> ty ty ty
[03:19] <r0b-> so ubuntu is make with c
[03:19] <r0b-> and python
[03:19] <xTaJMoX> ian_wax: right click the partition and choose unmount
[03:19] <nickkkkkname> h1st0: thanks
[03:19] <winbond> are there any free codecs for video, like flac for audio?
[03:19] <crimsun> r0b-: and C++ and Perl and a ton of other libraries and languages.
[03:19] <mneptok> winbond: Theora
[03:19] <ian_wax> and delete
[03:19] <r0b-> ok
[03:19] <imbecile> what can i use to test a mic in linux???... i just want to see if it works
[03:19] <r0b-> then i wont mess
[03:19] <r0b-> lol
[03:19] <xTaJMoX> r0b-: the Linux kernel is C++
[03:19] <crimsun> xTaJMoX: (meaning C and asm where useful, not C++)
[03:19] <ian_wax> does it make any sense to format as fat32
[03:19] <h1st0> imbecile: Applications > Sound and Video > Sound recorder
[03:19] <xTaJMoX> right thats what i meant =] 
[03:19] <echosystm> um
[03:19] <macogw> winbond: ogg
[03:19] <jvai> imbecile, try sounder recorder
[03:19] <r0b-> why isnt FireFox made in c++
[03:19] <echosystm> has anyone any idea how to get spdif going in ubuntu?
[03:19] <ian_wax> considering that windows should read it
[03:19] <h1st0> r0b-: ask in #firefox
[03:19] <echosystm> analogue works perfectly
[03:19] <macogw> winbond: ok find mneptok is right. theora's the codec, ogg's the container
[03:19] <jvai> *sound recorder
[03:19] <imbecile> h1st0,  thanks jvai  too
[03:19] <h1st0> r0b-: what are you trying to accomplish?
[03:19] <mneptok> xTaJMoX: not all of it
[03:19] <crimsun> r0b-: is it written in C++ ...
[03:19] <echosystm> but i route the audio from my linux computer through a recording interface (i work at a music studio)
[03:19] <macogw> jmchaffie: still stupidly huge
[03:19] <jvai> np
[03:19] <echosystm> any ideas?
[03:19] <macogw> r0b-: did you ask what firefox is written in?
[03:19] <jmchaffie> macogw: ok what kind of monitor do you have?
[03:19] <macogw> r0b-: it's xulrunner
[03:19] <macogw> jmchaffie: dell
[03:19] <braddcadd> will gcc build an exe that can be ran on windows?
[03:19] <macogw> jmchaffie: really old crt
[03:19] <unagi> sigh does alien always take this long?
[03:19] <knix> braddcadd: You can link windows apps with wine
[03:19] <macogw> jmchaffie: kinda not sure why i have a gateway box and dell monitor...
[03:19] <macogw> braddcadd: if you build it on windows
[03:19] <crimsun> braddcadd: if you use a binary build of GCC that compiles to that.
[03:19] <jmchaffie> macogw: ok then herein lies the problem... refresh rates are probably way off...
[03:19] <cambrose> Sorry to hop in, but I've got a networking question that is blowing my mind,..would anyone be willing to give me a hand with it?
[03:19] <nicholas1> hey guys, why is it when a program crashes sometimes that even after reboot it will just start up and crash again
[03:19] <jmchaffie> macogw: let me check ...
[03:19] <braddcadd> knix: i need to distribute an app i wrote to windoze people
[03:19] <h1st0> nicholas1: what program?
[03:19] <braddcadd> crimsun: sounds like what i need, any more hints (ima gcc newbie)
[03:19] <knix> braddcadd: I have never done it, but I know you can link against wine libs and build win32 exes. That's how they do win32 gaim
[03:19] <jmchaffie> macogw: try something along the lines of HorizSync 28-60 # horizontal refresh frequencies
[03:19] <jmchaffie>   VertRefresh 43-60 # vertical refresh frequencies
[03:19] <nicholas1> well  at first it was a program called stopmotion
[03:19] <TheManiacKY> I just came across the Desktop Effects in Ubuntu. I really really like it however it does have its bugs. Is there any support being made toward improving this functionality? Does my default update-manager look for these improvments? I just want to make sure I'm using the latest and greatest of this feature.
[03:19] <winbond> ok, thanks mneptok, macogw,
[03:19] <nicholas1> but now another one is too
[03:19] <cambrose> Is anyone in here a networking guru? If so, please send me a message
[03:19] <h1st0> TheManiacKYLapto: perhaps you need to peek into #ubuntu-effects
[03:19] <kitche> TheManiacKYLapto: umm well not right now since it's Compiz but the next release will probably have Compiz-fusion
[03:19] <h1st0> channel
[03:19] <nickkkkkname> h1st0: if i want to allow security=user, do i have to add anything else to the end of smb.conf ?
[03:19] <braddcadd> knix: thanks, good hint
[03:19] <h1st0> kitche: yeah it will have compiz fusion plugins availible.
[03:19] <nicholas1> it seems to  do it when it crashed because of high memory usage
[03:19] <braddcadd> knix: i have a python app and most windows users don;t have python installed
[03:19] <h1st0> nickkkkkname: yeah you can add the username and or group down there.  its pretty self explanitory.  on that page you can see how to get it to prompt for password or not.
[03:19] <knix> ouch
[03:19] <nn-laptop> hi all
[03:19] <braddcadd> knix: i hope that isn;t a roadblock for me
[03:19] <macogw> jmchaffie: where would i find the refresh rates for a 90s monitor?
[03:19] <h1st0> nickkkkkname: you would want authentication=YES section on that page.
[03:19] <kitche> h1st0: well since compiz and compiz-fusion is not compatible I doubt compiz will
[03:19] <knix> braddcadd: It's probably less work to bundle python than to churn out a monster python exe
[03:19] <cdehaan> can anyone tell me where the "mcs" compiler would be located, if mono-mcs is installed, in Ubuntu.
[03:19] <sacamano> hey, whats a FOSS equivalent to MS paint? the gimp is way too overkill, i just want to crop an image
[03:19] <knix> braddcadd: I'd throw win32 python in it, and give them a bat script to run, heh
[03:19] <h1st0> kitche: compiz-fusion is the new merge between beryl and compiz
[03:19] <h1st0> or remerege
[03:19] <jmchaffie> macogw: I just gave them to you...
[03:19] <jmchaffie> HorizSync 28-60 # horizontal refresh frequencies
[03:19] <jmchaffie>   VertRefresh 43-60 # vertical refresh frequencies
[03:19] <n2diy> macogw: google
[03:19] <braddcadd> knix: i see, maybe so
[03:19] <macogw> jmchaffie: oh sorry
[03:19] <macogw> jmchaffie: i didnt /lastlog
[03:19] <ian_wax> thanks  for your help.  i just spent 2 hours formatting the drive into NTFS only to reformat
[03:19] <kitche> h1st0: I know but they are not backward compatible
[03:19] <nicholas1> ok people here is the thing, I was using this program called stopmotion which does stopmotion animation with still images, I asked it to add about 80 high resolution images to the collection, it crashed, now iit won't start up
[03:19] <aneviltrend> sacamano: gnu paint should work fine
[03:19] <h1st0> sacamano: CHECK OUT fspoat
[03:19] <braddcadd> knix: i;ve been looking at nullsoft scriptable installer, it runs on linux
[03:19] <sacamano> aneviltrend, can i apt-get that/
[03:19] <h1st0> sacamano: jesus my fingers are retarded fspot
[03:19] <h1st0> sacamano: Applications > Graphics > Fspot
[03:19] <sacamano> histg, i think i have that, can that crop images?
[03:19] <aneviltrend> sacamano even easier, it should be in the add remove program menu under apps
[03:19] <knix> braddcadd: dunno, only installer I've used for multiplatform stuff is installanywhere
[03:19] <h1st0> nicholas1: have you asked the people that made the program?
[03:19] <sacamano> hlst0, aneviltrend, thanks!
[03:19] <nicholas1> no
[03:19] <r0dzilla> anyone running on a p35-based motherboard?
[03:19] <jmchaffie> macogw: oh no problemo :)
[03:19] <h1st0> !anyone | r0dzilla
[03:19] <ubotu> r0dzilla: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:19] <Xago> I'd reviewed all keyboard and shortcuts...and the 'l' letter Only appear making this combination
[03:19] <macogw> jmchaffie: still not goin...
[03:19] <cambrose_> Anyone have any experience with the Ralink wireless cards? It can currently see my Wireless router, but is unable to connect to it
[03:19] <macogw> jmchaffie: it was on 28-39 and 43-72 before from the auto thing the reconfigure did
[03:19] <MrElendig> cambrose_: what chipset?
[03:19] <jmchaffie> macogw: also, one thing I would try is commenting out your 640x480 option and see if it is a choice issue
[03:23] <r0dzilla> I was able to install Ubuntu using the alternate cd but all I'm getting is a blank screen with a blinking power light, I know this is some problem with X or the mode it's trying to use but I have been able to get it up and running twice by messing with the grub boot options but I haven't narrowed down what changes are making it come up
[03:23] <macogw> jmchaffie: dude...xrandr gives options down to 320x240
[03:23] <dk0r> When installing ubuntu studio where do I apply onboard raid controller drivers?? Can someone please pm me
[03:23] <h1st0> r0dzilla: edit the xorg.conf and change the video settings.  Like try vesa for a driver and see if that helps.
[03:31] <macogw> r0dzilla: is it a mobile nvidia card?
[03:31] <h1st0> r0dzilla: what type of video card are you trying to get working?
[03:31] <macogw> r0dzilla: with swirly black clouds?
[03:31] <macogw> r0dzilla: cuz if it is, it's noapic
[03:31] <h1st0> dk0r: perhaps ask the studio people
[03:31] <jmchaffie> macogw: I realize that, but your xorg.conf file doesn't does it?
[03:31] <r0dzilla> nVidia GTS 8800 640mb
[03:31] <macogw> jmchaffie: right
[03:31] <dk0r> h1st0: studio is feisty.
[03:31] <capnfantasmo> GRUB error 15 and how to fixit
[03:31] <macogw> r0dzilla: 640mb sounds like a lot to me. i have 2mb
[03:31] <Justi1> Does anyone know if it is possible to run the X windows server with a ATI Mobility Radeon X1400 graphics card?
[03:31] <jmchaffie> macogw: you have options for probably 640x480, 800x600, and 1024x768 right?
[03:31] <elustran> hi - I'm having some xorg.conf problems too
[03:31] <r0dzilla> but I've been able to get it to come up to X twice and was able to use the update applet
[03:31] <macogw> jmchaffie: and now 1280x1024 for the experiment
[03:31] <MrElendig> Justi1: yes
[03:31] <macogw> r0dzilla: did you do one boot option at a time or multiple?
[03:31] <h1st0> dk0r: wel I don't know what else they have changed.
[03:31] <macogw> r0dzilla: if you try one at a time and figure out what it is then set it to be there every time itll go
[03:31] <elustran> does anyone know a good guide to xorg.conf?
[03:31] <capnfantasmo> can someone help me with a major install problem?
[03:31] <dk0r> h1st0: maybe ill just install via live and the "studio'ize" the installation regarding theme and apps
[03:31] <r0dzilla> it seemed to work when I deleted quiet and savedefault from the .15 kernel
[03:33] <jmchaffie> macogw: so comment out / delete the 640x480 to see if you are given the option. in the meantime, give me a way to send you this file. It's rearlly my last option. it's a complete ATI rage I/II device xorg.conf device file
[03:33] <Justi1> MrElendig: what should I do to make this work? Trying to run the live CD, and trying to do an alternate install give me an error saying that the x windows server cannot start
[03:33] <r0dzilla> I haven't been able to get the .16 kernel to come up at all
[03:33] <h1st0> dk0r: rather than just ask them?
[03:33] <dk0r> Can someone please explain to me how a raid installation will work off the live cd??
[03:33] <macogw> jmchaffie: macoafi@gmail.com
[03:33] <h1st0> okay
[03:33] <jmchaffie> ok... on it's way...
[03:33] <dk0r> h1st0: they tell me to come here :)
[03:35] <MrElendig> Justi1: try the fglrx driver
[03:35] <gbutler288> how do I install a gcompris package
[03:35] <elustran> hello?
[03:35] <someone2005> Whats the best way to add files to a folder with in the linux os ?
[03:35] <h1st0> dk0r: well what do you need to do specify drivers for your raid card or something?  Or just set up a raid?
[03:35] <r0dzilla> is there a way to boot straight to the command line?
[03:35] <gbutler288> i downloaded the tarball
[03:35] <h1st0> r0dzilla: yes it should be on your grub list
[03:35] <dk0r> h1st0: i can setup the array in my bios (its an oboard controller) i just..
[03:35] <dk0r> h1st0: am unfamiliar with the ubuntu gui installer. will it ask me to provide drivers mid isntall?
[03:35] <r0dzilla> rescue mode? that didn't seem to find lvm partitions when I tried it, let me try again
[03:35] <dk0r> install*
[03:35] <macogw> r0dzilla: did you install fglrx?
[03:35] <cambrose_> I am having a problem connecting (but not seeing the AP) with the RT61/RT2561 chipset
[03:35] <h1st0> dk0r: it probably has the drivers already.  It will just ask you how you want to partition it.
[03:35] <fotoflo> hmm i had a windows drive automaticly mounting on my system, but i restarted in windows and then rebooted in linux and now the windows drive isnt mounted
[03:35] <capnfantasmo> I have a dual boot of Windows XP SP2 and Ubuntu 7.04 on two different drives. after I installed ubuntu I restarted to use some windows specific apps and I get GRUB 1.5 Error 15
[03:35] <Justi1> MrElendig: I followed the instructions for installing fglrx, but i became stuck when I had to open the "restricted drivers manager", because the gtk wouldn't load
[03:35] <gbutler288> so how do I install a tarball I downloaded ?
[03:35] <dk0r> h1st0: why would it have the drivers allready?
[03:35] <dk0r> h1st0: i do not have to supply them, like in windows?
[03:35] <h1st0> dk0r: probably not
[03:35] <kikkomanchow> /j/j #php
[03:35] <fotoflo> the line in my fstab looks like this /dev/hda1    /media/windows vfat  iocharset=utf8,umask=000  0    0
[03:35] <dk0r> h1st0: why is that?
[03:35] <r0dzilla> macogw: it's an nvidia 8800 card
[03:35] <fotoflo> how do i remount this?
[03:35] <dk0r> h1st0: how do i know if the included drivers are not outdated?
[03:35] <r0dzilla> I need to get the nvidia drivers
[03:35] <h1st0> dk0r: when it bombs during instlal
[03:35] <macogw> r0dzilla: oh sorry...who said x1400?
[03:35] <h1st0> dk0r: there is no way of knowing untill you try.
[03:35] <tucci> I installed compiz fusion awhile ago without a problem, restarted my computer and now I can't figure out how to restart compiz
[03:35] <r0dzilla> seems ubuntu has the ata boot slowdown too
[03:35] <h1st0> dk0r: if it doesn't see the drive then there is no drivers for it.
[03:35] <Xago> I'd reviewed all keyboard and shortcuts...and the 'l' letter Only appear making this combination
[03:35] <Justi1> macogw: I mentioned the x1400
[03:35] <h1st0> dk0r: Just try it first.
[03:35] <dk0r> h1st0: but just because it works, doesnt means its working efficiently, does it ?
[03:35] <macogw> Justi1: do you have fglrx
[03:35] <h1st0> dk0r: but if it isn't broke don't fix it.
[03:35] <Phydoux> Can someone tell me how to mount a external USB SATA drive?
[03:35] <MrElendig> Justi1: ther shoud be a guide in the wiki to install it from the cli
[03:35] <h1st0> dk0r: linux is not like windows
[03:35] <dk0r> h1st0: but what if it could be running 'better' ?
[03:35] <dk0r> h1st0: im a windows/osx user. I have to relate to something. sorry.
[03:35] <gbutler288> Can someone tell me how to install a tar.gz file I downloaded.
[03:35] <h1st0> dk0r: well then after the install update whatever you want I don't know what to tell you.
[03:35] <Justi1> macogw: I tried to install it, but I couldn't open the "restricted drivers manager"
[03:35] <macogw> r0dzilla: GTX or GTS or is it something else?
[03:35] <MrElendig> Phydoux: if it don't automount, then plug it in and check dmesg
[03:35] <h1st0> dk0r: You have to get out of that mind set that you need the latest and greatest driver like in windows.
[03:35] <dk0r> h1st0: well, lets say the installer does not recognize the controller. then what?
[03:35] <macogw> Justi1: do it on the command line
[03:35] <capnfantasmo> can anyone help me with GRUB error 15
[03:35] <elustran> am I visible on this channel?
[03:35] <r0dzilla> macogw: GTS 8800 640mb
[03:35] <fotoflo> elustran, yes
[03:35] <MrElendig> gbutler288: extract it and read the install and readme file that shoud be included
[03:35] <h1st0> dk0r: the drivers just work in linux.  They release updates for bug fixes etc.. but you can bet therre probably aren't that many bugs with drivers that are there in the release you are trying.
[03:35] <gbutler288> o.k.
[03:35] <Justi1> macogw: i typed in    gksu -D /usr/share/applications/restricted-manager.desktop /usr/bin/restricted-manager   but it gave me an error, something about GTK
[03:35] <MrElendig> gbutler288: but check first if you can get the app with apt first
[03:35] <tucci> I have compiz fusion installed and it works, but how do I turn it on by default?
[03:35] <h1st0> dk0r: then you are probably going to have to use a alternate iso and fudge around in expert mode loading some drivers or something.  idk.  But I would just try the live cd first.
[03:35] <cambrose_> MrElendig: I am using the RT61/2561 chipset
[03:35] <dk0r> h1st0: if the installer doesnt recognize by raid controller, will it ask me to provide drivers or..?
[03:35] <Drk_Guy> Justi1, in Ubuntu it's aint su it is sudo
[03:35] <h1st0> dk0r: no
[03:35] <r0dzilla> seems that the ata problem is messing up lvm detection
[03:35] <macogw> Justi1: figure out what the error was
[03:35] <h1st0> dk0r: you will then be stuck doing it yourself.
[03:35] <h1st0> dk0r: thats why the there already there I bet.
[03:35] <MrElendig> cambrose_: got the firmware installed?
[03:35] <dk0r> h1st0: thats called alternate mode?
[03:35] <Drk_Guy> Hi guys!
[03:35] <h1st0> dk0r: just trust me.
[03:35] <h1st0> dk0r: Alternate iso
[03:35] <r0dzilla> same ata boot problem fedora 7 has (using about 3 different distros here lol)
[03:35] <macogw> r0dzilla: that card should be supported with the binary nvidia drivers ubuntu provides
[03:35] <Drk_Guy> I am going to give PuppyLinux a shot
[03:35] <dk0r> h1st0: ok. trying to get a grasp on the terminology. ty
[03:35] <dk0r> h1st0: well. I will try it. Are you familiar w/ wine as well?
[03:35] <cambrose_> MrElendig: It shows up in my hardware manager as well as it can see my access point, but it just can't connect, so I assume the FW is there
[03:35] <h1st0> dk0r: the alternate iso is a text based install with a lot more options
[03:35] <h1st0> dk0r: yes
[03:35] <fotoflo> hi all: i had a windows drive automaticly mounting on my system, but i restarted in windows and then rebooted in linux and now the windows drive isnt mounted
[03:35] <gbutler288> sh configure --prefix=/home/bruno/gcompris  do I type this as is or do I change this?
[03:35] <TheManiacKYLapto> Is there an application that will let me stream my iTunes music from my macintosh to my ubuntu laptop?
[03:35] <r0dzilla> any way to get around ata boot slowdown problem?  there was a workaround for fedora before their last kernel update but I forget what the workaround is
[03:35] <fotoflo> the line in my fstab looks like this /dev/hda1    /media/windows vfat  iocharset=utf8,umask=000  0    0      --- how do i remount it?
[03:35] <dk0r> h1st0: is the cmd line installer just that? all cmd, blinking cursor kind of thing?
[03:35] <Phydoux> MrElendig, What am I looking for?
[03:35] <macogw> r0dzilla: /lastlog r0dzilla
[03:35] <macogw> bah
[03:35] <macogw> sorry
[03:35] <jvai> ok.. ty uall..
[03:35] <megobite> will ubuntu release a 2.6.22 kernel update?
[03:35] <h1st0> dk0r: well not exactly its like the begining of the windows 2000 installer
[03:35] <h1st0> dk0r: what's your question about wine?
[03:35] <Drk_Guy> !gutsy \ megobite
[03:35] <dk0r> h1sto: so there is a gui?
[03:35] <h1st0> dk0r: yeah text based gui
[03:35] <dk0r> h1st0: well its regarding VST instruments.
[03:35] <Drk_Guy> !gutsy | megobite
[03:35] <ubotu> megobite: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[03:35] <dk0r> h1st0: oh ok. i can live with that.
[03:35] <h1st0> dk0r: ahh that I would have no idea.
[03:35] <cambrose_> MrElendig:Is that a decent assumption to have?
[03:35] <Drk_Guy> Megobite, i think they will build Gutsy with that krnl
[03:35] <h1st0> dk0r: but if you boot the live cd you can see if support for all your hardware is there.  If it is then just go ahead and install.
[03:35] <dk0r> h1st0: np. How much of a pain will it be to get a printer working?
[03:35] <dk0r> h1st0: is there a list of supported hardware?
[03:35] <h1st0> dk0r: what type of printer?
[03:35] <Drk_Guy> dk0r, depends on the manufacturer
[03:35] <Phydoux> MrElendig, Could this be it? "ata2: SATA link down 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 0 SControl 300)"
[03:35] <dk0r> NOT lexmark
[03:35] <h1st0> dk0r: yeah let me get you list.
[03:35] <MrElendig> cambrose_: check that you have the firmware installed
[03:35] <dk0r> h1st0: i can google:) ty
[03:35] <dk0r> hehe
[03:35] <cambrose_> MrElendig: And how exactly do I do that?
[03:35] <Drk_Guy> I.E., it was a pain i the .... for me tio set-up the Lexmark Z600
[03:35] <Quentusrex> how could I mount the folder /data to the folder /home/user/data
[03:35] <dk0r> canon, epson, hp printers
[03:35] <jo3nix> will ubuntu release a 2.6.22 kernel update?
[03:35] <MrElendig> cambrose_: it's probably in /lib/firmware/
[03:35] <dk0r> they easily configured?
[03:35] <Quentusrex> so that the user 'user' can access it without leaving his home directory
[03:35] <MrElendig> if it's installed
[03:35] <dk0r> hey!
[03:35] <dk0r> my mobo is on the support list!
[03:35] <dk0r> ASUS A8N-SLi
[03:35] <dk0r> Sweet-!
[03:35] <dk0r> "Everything is working fine (tested on UBUNTU 6.10). Sata drives are detected with the install CD (unlike Windows XP where you need a floppy disk)"
[03:35] <h1st0> dk0r: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:35] <dk0r> h1st0: allready got it. but ty :)
[03:35] <dk0r> h1st0: my mobo is supported
[03:35] <cambrose_> MrElendig: There are .bin files for 2561 and 2661, so I assume that is a yes for me having the FW
[03:35] <Quentusrex> anybody know how to mount/link one folder to another?
[03:35] <h1st0> dk0r: yea you won't have problems with most printers either.  cups does a nice job of that.
[03:35] <jo3nix> anyone know if there is a bind9 channel?
[03:35] <jo3nix> heh
[03:35] <macogw> dk0r: we get it
[03:35] <h1st0> Quentusrex: what exactly are you trying to do?
[03:35] <macogw> dk0r: linux has great hardware support in terms of parts for building a system
[03:35] <dk0r> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCards
[03:35] <macogw> dk0r: it's peripherals that are tricky
[03:35] <dk0r> why isnt m-audio on that list?
[03:35] <r0dzilla> ah I found it
[03:35] <Quentusrex> I want to mount the folder /data to the folder /home/user/data
[03:35] <Quentusrex> that way I can restrict the user to his home folder, but he can still access the folder /data
[03:35] <r0dzilla> noirqdebug on kernel line is workaround for ata boot problem
[03:35] <macogw> Quentusrex: do you want to keep it at /data and just be able to access it that way?
[03:35] <h1st0> Quentusrex: so you want to create a link from /data to /home/user/data not mount it.
[03:35] <dk0r> I thought m-audio was big in linux?
[03:35] <Quentusrex> aah
[03:35] <macogw> Quentusrex: or do you want it to moutn at /home/user/data entirely
[03:35] <Quentusrex> I want it to stay at /data
[03:35] <h1st0> Quentusrex: then you need a sym link
[03:35] <Quentusrex> but I want to be able to access it at /home/user/data
[03:35] <macogw> Quentusrex: if just a link then, "ln -s /data /home/user/data"
[03:35] <Quentusrex> thanks
[03:35] <jmchaffie> macogw: Ok sorry for the delay.. it should be there any second
[03:35] <ziggy> Hello
[03:35] <h1st0> dk0r: what is m-audio?
[03:35] <cambrose_> MrElendig: What should I do from here?
[03:35] <Hitomaro> anyone know when staples close?
[03:35] <macogw> Quentusrex: then if you go to /home/user/data/stuff itll sort of redirect to /data/stuff but not change the path you see
[03:35] <macogw> jmchaffie: ok thanks
[03:35] <dk0r> h1st0: http://m-audio.com
[03:35] <macogw> Hitomaro: usually 9
[03:35] <macogw> Hitomaro: 6 on sundays
[03:35] <dk0r> h1st0: they manufacture my soundcard.
[03:35] <Hitomaro> thanks macogw
[03:35] <r0dzilla> haven't used apt-get in a while, is there a way to search for packages using the apt-get cli tool?
[03:35] <dk0r> h1st0: its ok., they have a linux driver on their support page.
[03:35] <MrElendig> cambrose: you might try ndiswrapper
[03:35] <Hitomaro> macogw: so when do they open?
[03:35] <macogw> r0dzilla: apt-cache search
[03:35] <macogw> Hitomaro: dont know. i'm still asleep when they open :)
[03:35] <jmchaffie> How about some nVidia help? Anyone got a line on the latest nVidia drivers? Easy install?
[03:35] <Hitomaro> :)
[03:35] <macogw> jmchaffie: sh NV<tab><enter>
[03:35] <r0dzilla> macogw: thanks is the nvidia drivers in a repo or do you have to use their install script?
[03:35] <h1st0> dk0r: from the forums it looks liek ubuntu will auto detect that as well.
[03:36] <h1st0> dk0r: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2940303
[03:36] <macogw> r0dzilla: depends how new your card is
[03:36] <ziggy> Hey guys, I am having some trouble with games, steam in particular. I started a source mod, and it loads, but before it loads to the menu, it freezes my entire computer (other people refer to it as a crash I guess). Any way to fix this error?
[03:36] <Hitomaro> I'm an early bird.. usually wake up around 6
[03:36] <macogw> r0dzilla: was it you that said 8800?
[03:36] <jmchaffie> macogw: that grabs the latest ones?
[03:36] <macogw> r0dzilla: thats supported in ubuntu's repos
[03:36] <r0dzilla> macogw: yes 8800
[03:36] <macogw> jmchaffie: well you have to wget them first ;)
[03:36] <macogw> jmchaffie: that just does the installer bit of it.  requires sudo now i think about it
[03:36] <Xago> I can't write correctLy the L Letter...onLy if I use in Uppercase :(
[03:36] <r0dzilla> macogw: what's the actual name of the package?
[03:36] <jmchaffie> macogw: oh ok... I have a 7600gs... I should've been more clear.. sorry
[03:37] <h1st0> ziggy: has it ever worked?
[03:37] <dk0r> h1st0: yeah. Another question. With my mobo ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Asus_A8N-SLI ) I will not have to provide drivers for the onboard silicon  raid controller?
[03:37] <macogw> r0dzilla: nvidia-glx should work
[03:37] <ziggy> h1st0: CS:Source has
[03:37] <h1st0> dk0r: it doesn't appear that way according to that.
[03:37] <h1st0> ziggy: well maybe there is a problem with that mod then.
[03:38] <macogw> jmchaffie: and you're sure that's not supported by ubuntu's nvidia binary, right?
[03:38] <someone2005> apt - get...?
[03:38] <dk0r> h1st0: that page says "EVERYTHING is working fine"
[03:38] <jmchaffie> macogw: I'm having trouble w/ second-life. Everything else works fine. But ever since I upgraded the other day to this card.. it crashes immediately.
[03:38] <dk0r> h1st0: i would assume that includes the onboard raid controller, no ?
[03:38] <h1st0> dk0r: yep
[03:38] <ziggy> h1st0: Well I am running it on ubuntu, and my brother runs it fine on windows and fedora
[03:38] <jmchaffie> macogw: Oh it's supported, just hoping that the latest drivers might fix a couple of bugs
[03:38] <macogw> jmchaffie: ah lovely
[03:38] <macogw> jmchaffie: oh ok
[03:38] <dk0r> h1st0: so then, I will not be required to provide raid drivers for the controller, correct?
[03:38] <h1st0> dk0r: but I don't have that hardware so I don't knwo for sure so the only way to really find out is to try.
[03:38] <ziggy> h1st0: I was wondering if there was some sort of fix for those general crashes.
[03:38] <dk0r> h1st0: k.
[03:38] <h1st0> dk0r: correct
[03:38] <h1st0> dk0r: its not like windows
[03:39] <macogw> jmchaffie: well http://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual has the directions you need
[03:39] <h1st0> dk0r: just get windows out of your head.
[03:39] <dk0r> h1st0: hopefully we can. this all seems like a headache. but ill try it anyways
[03:39] <h1st0> dk0r: it will take a lot of getting used to linux but once you get it probably bout a month or two of use.  You start realizing why its better.
[03:39] <h1st0> dk0r: just stick with it.
[03:39] <dk0r> h1st0: yeah. thats my intention. atleast for a few months of use.
[03:40] <macogw> dk0r: raid controllers are one point where compatibility is harder to guarantee
[03:40] <jmchaffie> macogw: ok cool. I'll try that. ONlly ones i've found so far have been horrific at best.. LOL. Hope that file helps you out. if not I can give you the whole .conf file, but I don't think it would be your system... might be worth a shot, just back your up first.. ;)
[03:40] <dk0r> well its onboard, and the hardware support list says everything is working, so.. /shrug. will have to try it :)
[03:40] <macogw> jmchaffie: hah ok
[03:40] <echosystm> whats the best version of ubuntu to use ona  core2duo? i386?
[03:40] <ziggy> h1st0: So.. what do you think I should do?
[03:40] <echosystm> i would like to use 64-bit if possible :[
[03:41] <macogw> jmchaffie: of course the one computer i have that doesnt have intel graphics is also the one that is too old for xp to be bearable
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[03:41] <macogw> echosystm: if you want to get
[03:41] <dk0r> h1st0: Maybe not. @least as of 2005. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79463
 I am using core 2 duo on it, and It runs amazing (Or at least compaired to my windows)
[03:41] <gbutler288> configure:3247: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[03:41] <gbutler288> See `config.log' for more details.
[03:41] <gbutler288>  what does this mean?
[03:41] <echosystm> yes... i will be using feisty
[03:41] <jmchaffie> macogw: yeah I know what you mean. I only just recently got to build this PC. Finally.
[03:41] <echosystm> but what build? i386 or what
[03:41] <macogw> echosystm: if you want to get Flash easily, x86 is better, but in general AMD64 (64-bit) would be better, you'll just need to do a bit of fiddling to make 32bit flash work on 64bit ubuntu
[03:41] <ziggy> i386
[03:41] <bruenig> gbutler288, means that the c compiler cannot create executables, probably that you don't have gcc installed
[03:41] <echosystm> is there an intel 64bit version?
[03:42] <echosystm> oh
[03:42] <ziggy> echosystm: i386** imo
[03:42] <echosystm> i'll stick with i386 then
[03:42] <echosystm> :P
[03:42] <knix> echosystm: intel uses amd64
[03:42] <macogw> gbutler288: see config.log and see what it says
[03:42] <ziggy> :D
[03:42] <emet> hi
[03:42] <fotoflo> hmm im having a rather serious problem
[03:42] <echosystm> also i have a p5b motherboard
[03:42] <maxagaz> hi
[03:42] <emet> I'm using ubuntu
[03:42] <echosystm> apparently, im going to be in for a bit of drama
[03:42] <echosystm> ?
[03:42] <ziggy> Fotoflo: Whats that?
[03:42] <echosystm> something about that intel chipset
[03:42] <echosystm> whats the deal with that?
[03:42] <jmchaffie> Ok kids, I'm outta here for a bit. C u after while.
[03:43] <macogw> echosystm: the fiddling i'm talking about is installing a 32bit browser (totally possible) and putting flash on that instead of on the 64-bit firefox that comes pre-installed
[03:43] <SniperXPX> yo im havin probs with the GRUB bootloader on feisty 7.04
[03:43] <jmchaffie> macogw: I'll be back in a bit. lemme know.
[03:43] <ziggy> I dont know, I run an intel chipset with a core2 duo
[03:43] <macogw> jmchaffie: restarting X?
[03:43] <jmchaffie> yep.
[03:43] <knix> You don't need a 32bit browser
[03:43] <emet> why didn't adobe release 64-bit flash yet
[03:43] <fotoflo> ziggy: my windows filesystem, that always used to mount, stopped mounting, and now when i try to mount it it says mount: special device /dev/hda1 does not exist""
[03:43] <knix> You can use nspluginwrapper and run 32bit plugins in 64bit FF
[03:43] <gbutler288> so is that an apt-get install gcc?
[03:43] <emet> they said like they will like 6 months ago
[03:43] <Ominous> #;ua
[03:43] <Ominous> oops
[03:43] <macogw> knix: oh neat
[03:43] <jmchaffie> making some other changes too... be back in a few min.
[03:43] <knix> macogw: Yea it's pretty slick
[03:43] <SniperXPX> how do i change the bootloader menu so that my windows partitions will be default, my parents wont know what to do on the boot screen
[03:43] <macogw> knix: i think konqueror lets you use 32bit plugins with no prob on 64bit
[03:43] <knix> :)
[03:43] <maxagaz> my macbook doesn't boot anymore, I know with the install cd that my hfs and linux partition are still there, so how can I get it to boot again ?
[03:43] <macogw> knix: didnt know ndiswrapper had more uses
[03:44] <knix> They probably alredy have to wrap them
[03:44] <macogw> maxagaz: does grub come up?
[03:44] <knix> macogw: not ndis, nspluginwrapper
[03:44] <macogw> knix: oh i read too fast
[03:44] <knix> =P
[03:44] <emet> lol!
[03:44] <ziggy> fotoflo: Are you talking about accessing and putting files in there?
[03:44] <maxagaz> macogw: no, it does'nt
[03:44] <macogw> maxagaz: nothing comes up?
[03:44] <echosystm> ok now
[03:44] <emet> hey next version of ubuntu will have an open source flash player included no problem
[03:44] <fotoflo> ziggy: just mounting, for the time bieng
[03:44] <echosystm> what is the best wya for me to resize my ntfs partition?
[03:44] <macogw> emet: current has it in the repos
[03:44] <emet> native 64-bit support
[03:44] <maxagaz> macogw: I just get a grey screen with a small apple trying to load something
[03:44] <macogw> emet: it's Gnash
[03:44] <echosystm> so i can fit linux on here
[03:45] <macogw> emet: its just that the updated one actually works well enough for YouTube
[03:45] <fotoflo> ziggy: it used to me automaticly mounted (i have an entry in my fstab) but i rebooted into windows yesterday and now its like this
[03:45] <gangrene> Quick question: how does one get rid of firefox extensions in linux?
[03:45] <emet> macogw, yes but included on the CD
[03:45] <macogw> maxagaz: oh...did you follow a howto or anything?
[03:45] <MrElendig> echosystm: gparted
[03:45] <echosystm> will i get data loss?
[03:45] <ziggy> fotoflo: I am sorry, I am new to the software, I dont quite understand the terminology
[03:45] <MrElendig> echosystm: but defrag and run checkdisk first
[03:45] <emet> macogw, it works with SWFv7 and lower
[03:45] <macogw> maxagaz: because i recall hearing that macs dont have a bootloader that you can get ubuntu into so you have to install bootcamp first or something
[03:45] <fotoflo> ziggy: oh
[03:45] <echosystm> okies
[03:45] <ziggy> fotoflo: Are you double installing?
[03:45] <macogw> emet: that's YouTube-capable, isn't it?
[03:46] <sirus> anyone play with eggdrops?
[03:46] <fotoflo> ziggy: uhm, maybe you should help someone else then
[03:46] <gbutler288> I tried the apt-get install gcc and it says there isn't anything to download?
[03:46] <ziggy> fotoflo: Like you have windows and ubuntu installed on the same hd
[03:46] <maxagaz> macogw: no, I didn't (except the howto install ubuntu on a macbook, which worked perfectly)
[03:46] <emet> macogw, yep! and that's all that matters for alot of people lol
[03:46] <ziggy> fotoflo: Aight
[03:46] <agnustic> I installed bootcamp so I could install ubuntu on my mini
[03:46] <gbutler288> what should I do next?
[03:46] <fotoflo> Ziggy: thanks anyway though
[03:46] <maxagaz> macogw: ubuntu used to work in double boot, but now I can't get anything
[03:46] <macogw> maxagaz: what's the last thing you changed?
[03:47] <MrElendig> gbutler288: apt-get install build-essensials(sp?)
[03:47] <macogw> maxagaz: undo that
[03:47] <MrElendig> esensials
[03:47] <MrElendig> or something
[03:47] <MrElendig> (my english suck :/)
[03:47] <macogw> gbutler288: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:47] <fotoflo> Hi all, so im having a really annoying problem. im trying to mount my windows drive (which i had working in the past) but now mount cant find /dev/hda1
[03:47] <fotoflo> can anyone help?
[03:47] <agnustic> anyone here running oracle with ubuntu
[03:47] <macogw> fotoflo: are you using the -15 kernel?
[03:47] <MrElendig> fotoflo: fdisk -l
[03:47] <maxagaz> macogw: I don't know, actually, it's not my computer, but this of my boss
[03:47] <macogw> fotoflo: if so, it's a /dev/sd*
[03:47] <macogw> maxagaz: oh
[03:48] <maxagaz> macogw: I can't load anything, so I can't undo anything
[03:48] <gbutler288> says it couldn't find package build-essentials?
[03:48] <MarcC> how can I view startup console errors after I'm logged into GNOME?
[03:48] <macogw> gbutler288: with or without an s at the end?
[03:48] <ziggy> Hey everyone, I am having a problem with World of Warcraft resolution. I went in the wtf config, and make it so it started as OpenGL and d3d, and I still cant make the resolution right without a crash. Anyone have experience with this?
[03:48] <macogw> MarcC: system > admin > log viewer
[03:48] <fotoflo> mac: im using a -16
[03:48] <macogw> fotoflo: all updated?
[03:48] <gbutler288> no s   thanks!
[03:49] <MarcC> macogw: thank you
[03:49] <fotoflo> macogw, i think so,  everything was working until yesterday, when i rebooted into windows for a bit
[03:49] <macogw> fotoflo: the new libata made everything /dev/sd* and then a bunch of people complained so they sent it back to sda for sata and hda for ide
[03:49] <gbutler288> so why dont' these come standard in Feisty?
[03:49] <gangrene> can anyone help me remove a firefox extension?
[03:49] <SniperXPX> hey im havin probs with the GRUB bootloader on feisty 7.04 -- I need to be able to set a different partiton as the default one highlights when the bootloader appears
[03:49] <sirus> How can I connect an eggdrop to an ipv6?
[03:49] <macogw> fotoflo: did your boss do anything bad?
[03:49] <macogw> gbutler288: because most people dont need to build from source
[03:49] <fotoflo> macogw, its my home box
[03:49] <macogw> gbutler288: only people with hardware from evil companies and programmers
[03:50] <gbutler288> was there a better way to do that?
[03:50] <fotoflo> my boss gave me a big job that i needed windows software to do
[03:50] <macogw> gangrene: it's in tools > add-ons
[03:50] <gbutler288> o.k. fotoflo I had to read that twice I thought for sure you said my Boss gave me a blow job.
[03:50] <fotoflo> MrElendig, fdisk -l didnt return anything
[03:50] <gbutler288> hahahah
[03:50] <John`> how can i mount an image iso file through a network drive?
[03:50] <gangrene> macogw: I've uninstalled it, but everytime I restart it's still there
[03:50] <macogw> gbutler288: build-essential installs all the compilers and autotools and make and everything
[03:50] <MrElendig> fotoflo: sudo it
[03:51] <John`> in terminal
[03:51] <macogw> gangrene: weird. ask on #firefox @ irc.mozilla.com maybe?
[03:51] <ziggy> Anyone have experience with changing the world of warcraft resolution?
[03:51] <SniperXPX> gangrene:try disabling it then uninstalling it
[03:51] <fotoflo> gbutler288, you know i wouldnt tell on him like that
[03:51] <gbutler288> hahaha
[03:51] <robby> Hi all
[03:51] <fotoflo> both of you guys, good call, sda1
[03:51] <ziggy> Hey robby
[03:51] <gbutler288> takes mind out of the gutter
[03:51] <IdleOne> !ohmy | gbutler288 fotoflo
[03:51] <ubotu> gbutler288 fotoflo: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:51] <John`> anyone know?
[03:52] <macogw> John`: (not trying to be rude) have you checked google?
[03:52] <goldbond> how do i recursively add a user permission to edit a folder?
[03:52] <ziggy> John: An iso on a network virtual drive?
[03:52] <robby> i bored
[03:52] <goldbond> (with the command line)?
[03:52] <macogw> goldbond: -R
[03:52] <John`> yes
[03:52] <gangrene> SniperXPX: no dice, it will 'disable' but not uninstall
[03:53] <John`> in a windows network drive
[03:53] <macogw> goldbond: wait are you chmod-ing a folder, you mean?
[03:53] <fotoflo> MrElendig, macogw: cool, it mounted, thanks
[03:53] <macogw> goldbond: if you're doing a chmod add -R
[03:53] <goldbond> thanks
[03:53] <ziggy> John: I would say your best bet is to put that iso up for transfer between that network so they can virtually mount it.
[03:54] <wil> saludos a todos
[03:54] <ziggy> John: Like download it, and then mount it
[03:54] <macogw> !ubuntu-es wil
[03:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-es wil - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:54] <SniperXPX> gangrene: you've probably tried restarting firefox, right?
[03:54] <fotoflo> wil, adios
[03:54] <wil> disculpen alguien me pueda ayudar?
[03:54] <robby> thank god for xanax
[03:54] <macogw> wil: Si tu hablas Espanol, va a #ubuntu-es
[03:54] <gangrene> SniperXPX: yes
[03:54] <fotoflo> copying from one drive to another - 18 MB/s!
[03:55] <John`> what do you mean by that ziggy?
[03:55] <RoC_MasterMind> !es wil
[03:55] <John`> i use "sudo mount -o loop smbfs //6CBF0D505A9A43B/sc/BroodWar.iso /mnt" but it doesn't work
[03:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about es wil - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:55] <SniperXPX> gangrene: what plugin/add-on is it exactly?
[03:55] <RoC_MasterMind> !es > wil
[03:55] <gangrene> SniperXPX: Conkeror
[03:55] <macogw> RoC_MasterMind: i just told him in spanish to go there
[03:55] <macogw> RoC_MasterMind: though i was a bit rude as i used informal speech to someone i dont know
[03:55] <fotoflo> ziggy, now that ive fixed my problem (and im waiting while i copy 8gb from one drive to another) i can talk to you about it, if you still wanna know
[03:56] <RoC_MasterMind> So I saw macogw...but now everyone knows the code.
[03:56] <macogw> RoC_MasterMind: and !es doesnt do anything...look what ubotu said
[03:56] <ziggy> John: Well, you need it on a network, and the way that works is that you can place it in a file that is accessable by everyone in that network, so they can get that ISO, and they can use that iso.
[03:56] <gangrene> SniperXPX: I've asked in their channel already, but no response
[03:56] <John`> however i was able to use "sudo mount -t smbfs //6CBF0D505A9A43B/sc /mnt
[03:56] <ziggy> Fotoflo: About wow?
[03:56] <ReMeMBeR> hi
[03:56] <RoC_MasterMind> Try it yourself macogw /msg ubotu !es
[03:56] <tjs> whats the current popular -active- 'desklets' solution ? I just want a clock and a mail checker, and perhaps a bar, but it seems projects like gdesklets etc are fairly dead these days, is the fad over?
[03:56] <SniperXPX> gangrene: heh,was about to tell you to go there
[03:56] <fotoflo> ziggy, about mounting a filesystem
[03:56] <macogw> RoC_MasterMind: i tried !ubuntu-es and you did !es and both times ubotu said "i dont know anything about...."
[03:56] <mortuis99> !wine
[03:57] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:57] <victorb> hi there
[03:57] <RoC_MasterMind> macogw, because you need to put a > or | between the command and the person's name.
[03:57] <gangrene> SniperXPX: I asked in here because I thought it would be relatively simple.. but it appears not
[03:57] <macogw> RoC_MasterMind: ohhh
[03:57] <ReMeMBeR> Sorry maybe i came wrong channel i don't mind but can i ask a question?
[03:57] <ziggy> Fotoflo: im good, i just need to know about bf2, CS:Source mods and wow
[03:57] <RoC_MasterMind> That was your mistake and mine the first time.
[03:57] <Justi1> macogw: When I try to open 'restricted drivers managers' to finish installing fglrx, i get the error  Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[03:57] <macogw> ReMeMBeR: if you're trying to get ubuntu help, ask here
[03:57] <fotoflo> wine is pretty crap, huh
[03:57] <fotoflo> ok
[03:57] <macogw> Justi1: does it still open?
[03:57] <BrokenSegue> !ask
[03:57] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:57] <SniperXPX> gangrene: im new here dude, im here to ask a question about the GRUB bootloader lol
[03:57] <macogw> Justi1: i get gtk warnings where it still works
[03:57] <Justi1> macogw: no, nothing happend
[03:58] <r0dzilla> hmmm, using rescue mode when I try to run startx to see if X is working, I get a "could not open /dev/nvidia0" error
[03:58] <macogw> Justi1: oh ok
[03:58] <mortuis99> if i have wine installed do i need to install windows XP?
[03:58] <ReMeMBeR> macogw i have an servudaemon.ini it has a password encrption as ;
[03:58] <macogw> Justi1: ok sorry to ask again, but which graphics card are you?
[03:58] <Bonhomme> I've tried to do a dist-upgrade from dapper to feisty - is this generally considerede possible? I'm getting a lot of dependency errors, specifically one which doesn't want to go away with just -f
[03:58] <ziggy> !ask wow
[03:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask wow - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:58] <r0dzilla> but that device exists and has rw-rw-rw perms
[03:58] <macogw> ReMeMBeR: ask them not me :p i dont know!
[03:58] <gangrene> SniperXPX: oh lol
[03:58] <ReMeMBeR> macogw i have an servudaemon.ini it has a password encrption ( Password=ux6B1D47088AFDE60BA249083FEEF7B6D8 ) i must decrypt it
[03:58] <Justi1> macogw: ati mobility radeon x1400
[03:58] <SniperXPX> !ask GRUB
[03:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask grub - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:58] <ziggy> !ask gaming
[03:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask gaming - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:58] <RoC_MasterMind> Bonhomme, the recommended way is to use the update manager.
[03:58] <ReMeMBeR> macogw sorry:)
[03:58] <ziggy> !gaming
[03:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gaming - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:59] <fotoflo> i have lots of important windows apps that i want to run, what is the likelyhood that wine will run them?
[03:59] <SniperXPX> !GRUB
[03:59] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:59] <macogw> fotoflo: check the winehq database
[03:59] <ziggy> Fotoflo: 50/50
[03:59] <RoC_MasterMind> !upgrade > Bonhomme
[03:59] <LDZ420> !ssh
[03:59] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[03:59] <Bonhomme> RoC_MasterMind: ok, so I always thought that was a frontend to apt-get?
[03:59] <macogw> fotoflo: and if it says no, check transgaming.com for games and codeweavers.com for other stuff
[03:59] <macogw> Justi1: do you have a working gui in 2D right now?
[03:59] <ziggy> fotoflo: half the files I installed worked, the other half was more buggy than rotten soup.
[03:59] <RoC_MasterMind> Bonhomme, yes, but there's an extra 20% that handles corner cases and the like...it's got a little more intel in it than apt-get does.
[03:59] <Stoffer> can someone help me with bluetooth file transfers?  I can send files from my new LG to my pc, but not from my pc to the phone.  It always says transfer failed
[04:00] <Stoffer> or unable to connect
[04:00] <ReMeMBeR> I have servudaemon.ini files and it has a password.it's encrpytion mode is ( Password=ux6B1D47088AFDE60BA249083FEEF7B6D8 ) I must decryption that pass how can i do it?
[04:00] <fotoflo> can i just go into my windows drive and try running stuff?
[04:00] <macogw> ReMeMBeR: are you trying to break into other people's stuff?
[04:00] <Justi1> macogw: I'm not sure what you mean (I'm really new to this); all my screen displays is text
[04:00] <Bonhomme> RoC_MasterMind: so let's say I've already tried using apt-get, can the update manager save me now?
[04:00] <macogw> Justi1: GUI = graphical user interface....you can use your mouse
[04:00] <ReMeMBeR> macogw where can i ask this ?
[04:01] <Bonhomme> RoC_MasterMind: it's already done a lot of stuff including removing and upgrading some packages
[04:01] <nich0s> ReMeMBeR: What do you need to decrypt that for?
[04:01] <macogw> ReMeMBeR: well, are you trying to break into other people's stuff? if so, on a channel for crackers
[04:01] <Justi1> macogw: I can't use my mouse
[04:01] <ReMeMBeR> nich0s this is my exam question.Not anyones pass this is only exam.
[04:01] <macogw> Justi1: and no pictures right?
[04:01] <Justi1> macogw: nope
[04:01] <Skrypt> how do I install icon themes?
[04:02] <macogw> Justi1: first see if you can get a 2D gui as installing the binary drivers is easiest through that
[04:02] <nich0s> ReMeMBeR: You're best bet would be to go to the channel for crackers.
[04:02] <MrElendig> sc0tt_:  in gnome?
[04:02] <MrElendig> er.. Skrypt
[04:02] <ReMeMBeR> macogw this is only examination question.Not other people's pass.I am not want to hack anyone.Only this is my exam.
[04:02] <macogw> Justi1: if you do "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and scroll to Display, what driver is listed?
[04:02] <Skrypt> Yes, sir.
[04:02] <ubuntu_> hi
[04:02] <MrElendig> Skrypt: drag and drop in the theme manager
[04:02] <Skrypt> the .jar?
[04:02] <macogw> ReMeMBeR: ethical hacker certs?
[04:02] <ReMeMBeR> nich0s sorry i don't understand.My english isn't good.
[04:03] <ubuntu_> i wanna install ubuntu onto a raid without the alternative cd
[04:03] <macogw> ReMeMBeR: if you're taking a test, isn't it cheating to ask us?
[04:03] <EADG> ReMeMBeR: You need a web site that has a "Rainbow Table" to crack that.
[04:03] <MrElendig> Skrypt: icon themes shoudn't be in jar....
[04:03] <ReMeMBeR> macogw i don't understand you.my english is bad.
[04:03] <macogw> ReMeMBeR: are you taking a test to make you someone that tests people's computers to see if hackers can get in
[04:03] <ubuntu_> i wanna install ubuntu to a spare partition and copy it to my riad
[04:03] <macogw> ReMeMBeR: ?
[04:03] <Skrypt> MrElendig, I've just downloaded the icon package. It's in a .jar file.
[04:03] <gbutler288> where is the free porn on linux?
[04:03] <nich0s> EADG: I hope he has a decent proc.
[04:03] <macogw> ReMeMBeR: and aside from that, wouldn't asking someone the answer to a test question be considered cheating
[04:03] <nich0s> gbutler288: lost+found
[04:03] <illsci> if you have a quad core 64bit intel chip
[04:04] <macogw> gbutler288: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-calendar
[04:04] <ubuntu_> i did that but it isnt working
[04:04] <illsci> should you use the amd64 iso's
[04:04] <ReMeMBeR> macogw this is only dream.in really no one hass that pass.This is only exam allright?
[04:04] <gbutler288> hahahahah
[04:04] <Justi1> macogw: There is nothing titled display
[04:04] <ubuntu_> any ideas?
[04:04] <MrElendig> Skrypt: look around the place you got it, icon theme susualy comes as tar.gz or bz2
[04:04] <EADG> nich0s: Site does all the hard work.
[04:04] <ReMeMBeR> macogw but i must do this question for finish my school
[04:04] <illsci> hey what iso do you use to install on a 64bit quad core intel box?
[04:04] <macogw> ReMeMBeR: does your school let you ask other people the answers to your tests?
[04:05] <r0dzilla> illsci: amd64 iso does both amd and intel 64-bit
[04:05] <illsci> that's weird
[04:05] <macogw> Justi1: in "Device" what's it say?
[04:05] <illsci> it wont boot
[04:05] <illsci> hmm...
[04:05] <Bonhomme> OK, the upgrade documentation doesn't help me as my x has already been sufficiently broken by my attempted upgrade to not run
[04:05] <ReMeMBeR> macogw no but I try many times but never has an answer so ask you
[04:05] <Bonhomme> is there a way out of this?
[04:05] <gbutler288> do webcams work in GAIM?
[04:05] <Justi1> macogw: vesa
[04:05] <macogw> ReMeMBeR: well us telling you won't mean you really know it to pass school, so maybe you ought to figure it out on your own
[04:06] <MrElendig> gbutler288: no
[04:06] <macogw> Justi1: that should work...
[04:06] <MrElendig> gbutler288: btw gaim is dead, long live pidgin
[04:06] <ReMeMBeR> macogw i don't understand sorry
[04:06] <macogw> gbutler288: for webcams, try kopete
[04:06] <macogw> ReMeMBeR: if we tell you the answer, you haven't really learned what you need to learn for school
[04:07] <macogw> ReMeMBeR: you should study harder to pass school so that you are prepared for whatever you do after school
[04:07] <macogw> ReMeMBeR: cheating on exams does not help you learn
[04:07] <fevel> hello
[04:07] <ReMeMBeR> macogw you said true but only give an opinion how can i do?
[04:07] <Pelo> !hi | fevel
[04:07] <ubotu> fevel: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:07] <macogw> ReMeMBeR: *maybe* with gpg
[04:08] <EADG> ReMeMBeR: Have a look here http://rainbowtables.shmoo.com/
[04:08] <goldbond> i am trying to add access for a user to a series of directories. is this correct? chmod -R u=rw- {user} {directory}
[04:08] <fevel> is lightscribe suported in Ubuntu??
[04:08] <macogw> ReMeMBeR: gpg is for encryption
[04:08] <ReMeMBeR> macogw i useful john the ripper but it isn't success.
[04:08] <macogw> fevel: i think so
[04:08] <Pelo> fevel,  not usre , do a search for lightscribe in synaptic
[04:08] <Justi1> macogw: is there any other way to activate fglrx, since I cannot start restricted drivers manager?
[04:08] <macogw> fevel: i havent tried though (dont have one of those drives)
[04:08] <BaD_CrC> wtf do i keep seeing a "Launching HTTP Cache Cleaner" down in my taskbar every once in a while?
[04:09] <Nutubuntu> goldbond,  might be easier in the long run to grant rights to a group and add the user(s) to the group ?
[04:09] <Pelo> Justi1,  the ppl in #beryl might be better equip to ansser you,  in #ubuntu-effects to
[04:09] <macogw> Justi1: sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[04:09] <macogw> Justi1: that will install it
[04:09] <macogw> Justi1: then you have to put "fglrx" in the place where it says vesa
[04:10] <imbecile> where do i find clam to run it?
[04:10] <jo3nix> ReMeMBeR, its 128bib MD5 hash... go from there
[04:10] <Justi1> Pelo: I am having trouble starting x window server with my ati mobility radeon
[04:10] <jo3nix> 128bit
[04:10] <Pelo> imbecile,  clamav,  you also want to install clamtk , it's the gui
[04:10] <ReMeMBeR> jo3nix where will i go i don't understand?
[04:10] <darthmarth37> Would it be considered a Bad Idea to use the same /tmp and /var/tmp for more than one distro?
[04:11] <Pelo> !ati | Justi1  try this
[04:11] <ubotu> Justi1  try this: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:11] <macogw> Pelo: it says to use restricted driver manager, and he cant get gui
[04:11] <billy_s> Hallo! Hi I can change screen resolution in Ubuntu? System was installed with CRT and now after upgrade I dont see resolutions high enough. Everything ends at 1024 and 60 Hz!
[04:11] <jo3nix> your obviously on the Internet... use it!  This is just not the place.
[04:11] <Pelo> macogw, like I said earlier , I'm no good with hardware stuff
[04:12] <macogw> Pelo: heh
[04:12] <Nutubuntu> billy_s,  you'll need to (first) back up and (then) edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:12] <fisherhome> someone gave me a handy command to see how much memory is installed in my machine.. anyone know what that is?  i forgot
[04:12] <linuxgx> No Sound in Wolf-ET
[04:12] <macogw> Justi1: sudo apt-get install fglrx-control
[04:12] <darthmarth37> fisherhome: cat /proc/meminfo
[04:12] <billy_s> Nutubuntu: No way for graphical manager to do it?
[04:12] <Pelo> billy_s,   add the extra resolution you need in  xorg.conf         gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:12] <Justi1> Pelo: I am following those steps, but when I have to open restricted drivers manager, but I receive a GTK error
[04:12] <fisherhome> thanks a lot bro!
[04:12] <macogw> Justi1: i'm checking out the directions from edgy since they dont use the restricted driver manager
[04:13] <Pelo> fisherhome, free
[04:13] <macogw> Justi1: the manager is a gui
[04:13] <fisherhome> i'm sorry?
[04:13] <macogw> Justi1: they probably should've made a backend for it, but i guess they consier dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to be that
[04:13] <ormandj> how often are LTS releases released? I don't see the info in the wiki/docs
[04:13] <Pelo> Justi1,  that was the best I can do for you,  try looking up your card model in the forum and ask again here periodicaly
[04:13] <linuxgx> No sound in Wolfenstein ET?
[04:14] <Hitomaro> my computers fans are way too noisy.
[04:14] <ReMeMBeR> jo3nix can you help me?
[04:14] <Nutubuntu> billy_s,  it is straightforward to edit - just keep a backup in case you need it :) You only need to add, at most, a couple of lines, and edit one that is already there.
[04:14] <Justi1> macogw: should i try   sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx    OR     sudo apt-get install fglrx-control
[04:14] <Pelo> fisherhome,  type free in the terminal   the fist number is your total memory
[04:14] <fisherhome> oh thanks!
[04:14] <ormandj> Hitomaro: try .22 kernel, fan control was modified heavily from what i understand
[04:14] <macogw> ormandj: we're all assuming next spring will be the next one since ubuntu was around 2 years before the first LTS and they said some time after this fall
[04:14] <macogw> Justi1: install both of them
[04:14] <Hitomaro> (10:14:20 PM) ormandj: Hitomaro: try .22 kernel, fan control was modified heavily from what i understand
[04:14] <ormandj> macogw: so there's no set LTS release schedule, in other words?
[04:14] <Hitomaro> what?
[04:14] <macogw> ormandj: right
[04:14] <linuxgx> I have no sound in Wolfenstein ET, please help!!!
[04:15] <Justi1> macogw: and i change vesa to fglrx in xorg.conf ?
[04:15] <ormandj> hitomaro: http://lwn.net/Articles/240666/
[04:15] <macogw> ormandj: it's looking to be every 2 years so that there's 1 year of switch-over time, but it's not set in stone that 8.04 will be it
[04:15] <Hitomaro> It was noisy before I installed ubuntu..
[04:15] <macogw> Justi1: yes
[04:15] <ormandj> macogw: ok, thank you!
[04:15] <macogw> Justi1: well not sure if you do it yet
[04:15] <Pelo> linuxgx, do you have any sound ?
[04:15] <macogw> Justi1: lemme check the howto
[04:15] <linuxgx> in genome yes
[04:15] <jnberg> Anyone use a buffalo terastation with ubuntu here?
[04:16] <Pelo> linuxgx, and I assume this version of wolf is a linux one not one you are running on wine ?
[04:16] <linuxgx> yep its the linux port
[04:16] <macogw> Justi1: "sudo nano /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common" and make sure the driver isnt disabled
[04:16] <darthmarth37> What is a good app for video editing?
[04:17] <bruenig> avidemux
[04:17] <Pelo> linuxgx, go to their site see if there is a forum you can searrch for the problem or if they have a support channel,
[04:17] <macogw> Justi1: "sudo depmod -a" to generate a new set of dependencies so that fglrx starts properly (i'm reading straight from the howto for edgy)
[04:17] <osxdude|laptop> I really want QuickTime to work under wine. So far, I just can't get the sound working...
[04:17] <billy_s> Nubuntu: Well I will try but there is really absolutely no graphic way to choose new LCD panel Like Generic LCD Panel 1600x1050??
[04:17] <`Kevin> Is possible for me to install Ubuntu to my hard drive A and use it as my only operating system? I can't figure out how to install it without grub.
[04:17] <macogw> osxdude|laptop: why do you need quicktime? totem plays qt .mov files
[04:17] <Justi1> macogw: i think i read this, but i wasn't sure whether to try it or not, since I have fiesty?
[04:17] <macogw> `Kevin: you need grub
[04:18] <macogw> `Kevin: otherwise, how would it boot?
[04:18] <osxdude|laptop> macogw: I know, but, I just want it :P
[04:18] <`Kevin> macgow: Erm.
[04:18] <Hitomaro> (10:15:16 PM) ormandj: hitomaro: http://lwn.net/Articles/240666/
[04:18] <`Kevin> I dunno. I keep getting errors with GRUB
[04:18] <Pelo> `Kevin,  it needs grub for the other bits,  but you can change the delay so it boot directly to ubuntu with no menu
[04:18] <`Kevin> With my multiboot
[04:18] <osxdude|laptop> I'm gonna get rdy for bed.
[04:18] <Hitomaro> what am I suppose to do with that code?
[04:18] <`Kevin> Ok, thanls.
[04:18] <`Kevin> thanks*
[04:18] <macogw> Justi1: it's probably the same but they just put the gui version because it's easy.  the command line one should be there
[04:18] <maxagaz> refit doesn't boot anymore on my macbook so that I can't run any system, what can I do ?
[04:18] <WaxyFresh> is there a command to apend a portian of text onto a existing file?
[04:19] <macogw> Justi1: well, i mean, it *should* be there but someone decided it'd be scary to have commands be the first thing on the page
[04:19] <mikaragua> hello earthlings!
[04:19] <maxagaz> I tried to reinstall refit, but it didn't change anything
[04:19] <Jordan_U> maxagaz, What happens when you try to boot?
[04:19] <ormandj> Hitomaro: it's a new kernel, which handles fan control differently. in other words, if you have to ask, you probably shouldn't mess with it - just wait for a newer ubuntu release, and it (or something after it) will be included
[04:19] <Nutubuntu> billy_s,  once you have made sure that xorg.conf shows the various resolutions you want to choose from, there's a gui selector in the menus:  System > Preferences > Screen Resolution
[04:19] <mikaragua> how do i disable apache2 to load during boot time?
[04:19] <Pelo> WaxyFresh, man  sed
[04:19] <Hitomaro> hey coz_
[04:19] <macogw> mikaragua: take it out of the init scripts in /etc
[04:20] <billy_s> hmm ok! Will try. Thank you for help!
[04:20] <coz_> Hitomaro, hey guy :)
[04:20] <macogw> mikaragua: i think it's in /etc/init.d/
[04:20] <mikaragua> macogw, so ill remove it at /etc/init.d/apache2
[04:20] <Justi1> macogw: have I done everything necessary, or should i continue in the howto after i enter "sudo depmod -a"
[04:20] <maxagaz> Jordan_U: a grey screen, an apple at the center of the screen, and a small animation showing that it's trying to load something
[04:20] <macogw> mikaragua: if that's where it is, then yes
[04:20] <ahlibyte> can anyone tell me how to make my own Repoitory CD/DVD
[04:20] <Jordan_U> WaxyFresh, You just want to add text to the end?
[04:20] <[Hyarion] > hi, I'm trying to upgrade from Edgy to Fiesty but I'm getting a connection timed out for "..cabspace.com...", what can I replace it with in the sources.list?
[04:20] <macogw> Justi1: continue in the howto
[04:20] <WaxyFresh> Jordan_U:  yea
[04:20] <macogw> [Hyarion] : what repo is that?
[04:20] <Hitomaro> coz_: couldn't get the 7600gs today.. I'll have it by tomorrow morning.
[04:20] <Jordan_U> WaxyFresh, echo " Enter text here " >> file
[04:20] <Pelo> ahlibyte, I belive there are howtos on this in the site in the wiki section
[04:21] <macogw> ahlibyte: aptoncd will let you do it
[04:21] <acidx> mikaragua, update-rc.d -f apache2 remove
[04:21] <[Hyarion] > macogw, dunno, it says "edgy main-all" next to it, this error happens when I try to upgrade from the Ubuntu interface
[04:21] <Jordan_U> maxagaz, Ahh, then it is trying to boot OSx and is failing
[04:21] <ahlibyte> ubuntu.com?
[04:21] <coz_> guys I have a situation I cannot seem to fix   tried installing redhat cluster applicationto no avial and removed it however now I am getting this dpkg error     ""error pricessing clvm ( --configure): subprocess post-instalation script returned error exit status3
[04:21] <macogw> ahlibyte: then to mount it as a repo "sudo apt-cdrom add"
[04:21] <Pelo> [Hyarion] ,  downlad the alternate install cd and upgrade from there
[04:21] <macogw> [Hyarion] : i dont know what that is
[04:21] <coz_> i would like to get rid of this  any clues
[04:21] <SunmanXII> hi - this is a weird question. i bought a new monitor and i tried to plug it in and use it... after i rebooted a few times it finaly started working. however, when i play any movies/video files (in any player) the colors get fucked up. like inverted.
[04:21] <ormandj> [Hyarion] : it sounds like you edited your sources.list file
[04:21] <WaxyFresh> Jordan_U:  echo "XXXXX" >> /etc/X11/xorg.conf? is that right?
[04:21] <Pelo> !upgrade | [Hyarion] 
[04:21] <ubotu> [Hyarion] : For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:21] <[Hyarion] > thanks.
[04:21] <mikaragua> update-rc.d -f apache2 remove  <--is this a one-liner command?
[04:21] <macogw> [Hyarion] : you should just have the regular ubuntu repos
[04:21] <Nutubuntu> !ohmy > SunmanXII
[04:21] <maxagaz> Jordan_U: what should I do ?
[04:22] <macogw> mikaragua: looks like it
[04:22] <Justi1> macogw: when I enter "sudo aticonfig --initial", it says "found fglrx primary device selection Nothing to do, terminating." is this normal?
[04:22] <fotoflo> anyone use scim/skim ? im having problems getting it to work in kubuntu
[04:22] <SunmanXII> my bad.
[04:22] <mikaragua> thanks
[04:22] <macogw> Justi1: idk i dont have a new ati card
[04:22] <Jordan_U> maxagaz, Did OSx shutdown incorrectly ( if it did then by default it will bypass refit and boot OSx, you can configure refit to boot even after OSx is shut down incorrectly though )
[04:22] <Pelo> SunmanXII,  which player ?
[04:23] <ian_wax> Anything better than NetworkManager Applet 0.6.4?? Mine is freezing up
[04:23] <macogw> fotoflo: go to http://del.icio.us/macoafi and i have a link in there to a really good scim howto
[04:23] <Jordan_U> maxagaz, And how did you re-install refit if the system won't boot?
[04:23] <SunmanXII> both
[04:23] <SunmanXII> mplayer, realplayer, vlc
[04:23] <SunmanXII> anything
[04:23] <SunmanXII> but on the desktop colors are fine
[04:23] <fotoflo> macogw: thanks
[04:23] <Pelo> SunmanXII, considering there are about 20  both is not a real answer
[04:23] <maxagaz> Jordan_U: I don't know, it's not my computer actually, I don't know what happend
[04:23] <macogw> fotoflo: i cant paste the direct url in here because i'm using irssi in a virtual terminal, but i know it's in my del.icio.us links
[04:23] <goldbond> well i chmodded a directory to 764 and now cannot ls from my user or with sudo
[04:23] <goldbond> why is this?
[04:23] <SunmanXII> Pelo: the above three are the ones i tried
[04:23] <Nutubuntu> SunmanXII,  this is just a guess, but I'd be looking at codecs - esp if all the players you've tried have the same issue
[04:23] <maxagaz> Jordan_U: I reinstalled it using the LiveCD
[04:23] <Pelo> SunmanXII, in mplayer there is a section for video output  try a few of the xhoices
[04:24] <Pelo> SunmanXII,  and hyou can also try asking in #mplayer #vlc etc
[04:24] <macogw> fotoflo: its under the SCIM tag
[04:24] <Jordan_U> maxagaz, rEFIt or Ubuntu?
[04:24] <maxagaz> Jordan_U: refit
[04:24] <Justi1> macogw: for "sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv" it says "Warning: Option VideoOverlay doesn't affect running session."?
[04:24] <macogw> Justi1: there isnt a running session anyway
[04:24] <Nutubuntu> SunmanXII,  what Pelo said ... the #mplayer folks have been helpful, in my experience
[04:24] <illsci> hey do you know of a ubuntu iso that supports the nvidia 8800 gtx out of the box
[04:24] <SunmanXII> Pelo: I also ran the system update before this - could this be an issue
[04:24] <ian_wax> running networkmanager applet is rather slow
[04:25] <illsci> everytime i go to boot it loads the kernel and then it goes blank... all black
[04:25] <Pelo> SunmanXII, you can also try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , might detect your new monitor
[04:25] <ian_wax> is there anything i can do to change this?
[04:25] <macogw> Justi1: i think that's to warn you that if you try to enable it while you're already in X, it wont work til next time X starts
[04:25] <ian_wax> it freezes up when i change settings
[04:25] <Jordan_U> illsci, Have you tried the alternate install CD?
[04:25] <macogw> illsci: there isnt one
[04:25] <Pelo> !enter | ian_wax
[04:25] <ubotu> ian_wax: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:25] <fotoflo> macogw, ok thanks
[04:25] <macogw> illsci: that needs a binary driver which ubuntu does not ship
[04:25] <ziggy> anyone know anything about wow and ubuntu?
[04:25] <goldbond> well it looks like i broke /var/www/
[04:26] <goldbond> how can i chmod it back so i can read and ls it with sudo?
[04:26] <illsci> macogw: i was asking in here because maybe someone created one
[04:26] <Pelo> ziggy,  we know about wow, but we've never heard of th other thing
[04:26] <macogw> illsci: only open source drivers are shipped. the driver should be available with the restricted driver manager though (it's a gui, don't worry) to get 3D acceleration for beryl
[04:26] <macogw> illsci: oh...maybe mint...maybe
[04:26] <illsci> mint?
[04:26] <ziggy> Pelo: What do you mean?
[04:26] <Darter> I'd like to know the best set of codecs to d/l for simple playing of MP3's, mpg and wmv files...I'm using 6.06
[04:26] <Pelo> goldbond,  sudo chmod 755 /path
[04:26] <Jordan_U> macogw, Actually... There are binary drivers on the LiveCD
[04:26] <Pelo> ziggy,  I was being humorous
[04:27] <illsci> as soon as this boots and it loads the kernel it goes all black... and it sucks because I only have usb keyboard so I cant do a text based install
[04:27] <macogw> illsci: Linux Mint is based on ubuntu and has all the codecs and other junk in it
[04:27] <macogw> Jordan_U: but they dont get installed
[04:27] <ziggy> Pelo: ohh ok
[04:27] <Justi1> macogw: Okay. Now when I enter "gksudogedit/etc/X11/xorg.conf" it doesn't open anything, and says "Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display"
[04:27] <macogw> Jordan_U: they're only there on live, then they go away once it's installed and you hvave to install them
[04:27] <macogw> Justi1: use nano instead of gedit
[04:27] <goldbond> Pelo: i still get ls: .: Permission denied
[04:27] <macogw> Justi1: gedit is a gui text editor
[04:27] <Pelo> ziggy,  google for wow ubuntu you'll get a lot of hits,  one of them is bound to be a howto
[04:27] <fotoflo> macogw, I have a broken copy on my system now
[04:28] <Pelo> goldbond, no / at the end
[04:28] <Justi1> macogw: I receive the same error
[04:28] <macogw> fotoflo: sudo apt-get remove --purge $packages
[04:28] <macogw> fotoflo: --purge deletes their config too
[04:28] <macogw> Justi1: with nano?
[04:28] <chealdo> hi every how can i clean my system from invalid entries am using feisty
[04:28] <goldbond> Pelo: still, i get the same error
[04:28] <macogw> Justi1: nano is command line based
[04:28] <macogw> chealdo: invalid entries?
[04:28] <Justi1> macogw: should i put gksudo or just sudo
[04:28] <thepumpkin_w> what is the default svn repository path?
[04:28] <macogw> Justi1: just sudo
[04:29] <Pelo> goldbond, I'm out of ideas,  man chmod see if you can figure it out
[04:29] <fotoflo> macogw: cool
[04:29] <macogw> Justi1: gksudo is the gui sudo that pops up and asks for your password like in OSX or Vista
[04:29] <mikaragua> should i load acpi daemon even if this is a desktop and not a laptop?
[04:29] <Olgem> How come this isn't a valid command, both the image and the dir exist. "sudo mount -o loop iso9660 AOK.img /dev/vimage0
[04:29] <macogw> Justi1: please note that linux had it before either of them!
[04:29] <fotoflo> sudo apt-get install uim anthy scim-gtk2-immodule scim-uim scim-chinese scim-hangul scim-tables-zh scim-tables-ja scim-tables-ko
[04:29] <Olgem> errrr
[04:29] <fotoflo> im using kde
[04:29] <macogw> mikaragua: if you want to suspend/hibernate, yes
[04:29] <Olgem> oops
[04:29] <Olgem> nevermind
[04:30] <`eric-> !itunes
[04:30] <ubotu> itunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee
[04:30] <macogw> fotoflo: so..? the beginning of the howto goes for both
[04:30] <chealdo> macogw, i mean i have downloaded too many evaluation softwares today and actually been saved in my system like the tar.bz
[04:30] <fotoflo> macogw, so i should install skim, not scim, right?
[04:30] <macogw> fotoflo: at the end it tells you what to add separate for kde apps
[04:30] <chealdo> say leftovers
[04:30] <macogw> fotoflo: or just start reading ahead and see if i remember the page correctly
[04:30] <`eric-> hmm, if i have a brand new ipod, can amarok format it and everything?
[04:30] <[g2] > On a Feisty alternate install for a Intel Santa Rosa laptop (Acer) I've got an X problem "Screen(s) found: but none have a useable configuration" :(
[04:30] <Pelo> `eric-,  you need to mount your ipod ?  try gtkpod, banshee or amarok
[04:30] <fotoflo> what is anthy? and uim?
[04:30] <macogw> chealdo: "sudo apt-get autoclean" clears the excess debs
[04:30] <macogw> fotoflo: anthy is japanese input
[04:30] <macogw> fotoflo: uim is unified input something
[04:31] <`eric-> Pelo: it's just brand new, so i'm not sure how it works.. how do i set the volume label, etc...?
[04:31] <fotoflo> so i dont want japanese or korean
[04:31] <illsci> ill give the alternate cd a shot
[04:31] <Justi1> macogw: ok I am able to edit the file now, and I am suppsosed to add "  Section "Extensions"         Option      "Composite" "disable" EndSection  " to the end of the file. Does spacing of the words matter, and if so, should I use tab?
[04:31] <macogw> fotoflo: anthy is the japanese input where you spell it like konnichi ha. genki desu ka? and it turns it into the proper letters
[04:31] <griberal> Can anyone tell me what the major differences are between CentOS and Ubuntu Server Edition, other than one being based on Redhat and using yum for package management and the other being Debian based and using apt for package management?
[04:31] <chealdo> ya i did previously i uninstalled the clamav but still i see the icon in application-system tools
[04:31] <macogw> Justi1: spacing shouldnt matter
[04:31] <fotoflo> macogw: oh. ok.  i dont use japanese though...
[04:31] <Pelo> `eric-, I'm not all that familiar with ipods but I guess you can probably use gparted to format it  ,
[04:31] <macogw> chealdo: did you add the icon yourself?
[04:31] <macogw> fotoflo: then leave it off
[04:32] <macogw> fotoflo: that howto installs *all* the asian language stuff
[04:32] <macogw> fotoflo: i just set mine to hide chinese and korean since i only need japanese
[04:32] <instabin> i just installed compiz .5 and i do not have window boarders
[04:32] <macogw> instabin: do you mean compiz-fusion?
[04:32] <chealdo> macogw, no i installed it from automatix and removed it through automatix
[04:32] <fotoflo> macogw: you can hide after installation?
[04:32] <instabin> macogw: yes
[04:32] <RoC_MasterMind> griberal, the difference in package management makes a lot of difference.  We here obviously prefer Debian-style package management.
[04:32] <macogw> instabin: this is a #ubuntu-effects question anyway
[04:33] <xTaJMoX> instabin: do the windows wobble?
[04:33] <macogw> fotoflo: yeah just uncheck whatever you dont want to show
[04:33] <macogw> !automatix | chealdo
[04:33] <instabin> xTaJMox: I dont know i cant move them
[04:33] <ubotu> chealdo: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:33] <RoC_MasterMind> centos might be GUI too griberal .
[04:33] <peacho> Hi there. I have a few questions about Firefox in Ubuntu 6.10.
[04:33] <xTaJMoX> instabin - then you probably dont have your video driver card installed correctly or your card doesn't support composite
[04:33] <instabin> xTaJMox: yes they wobble i just alt + left clicked it
[04:33] <macogw> instabin: alt + click to move windows
[04:34] <RoC_MasterMind> !ask | peacho
[04:34] <ubotu> peacho: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:34] <xTaJMoX> instabin ok then it is probably your window manager problem.   try changing theme or re-loading your window manager
[04:34] <macogw> instabin: compiz-fusion isnt quite supported yet i dont think....compiz and beryl are the ones in the repos
[04:34] <peacho> So I've been told. lol.
[04:34] <macogw> instabin: #ubuntu-effects handles the desktop effects though
[04:34] <Robert__> Hello all
[04:34] <instabin> macogw: i have berly it works
[04:34] <peacho> Is there any way to access the Options box in Firefox?
[04:34] <peacho> Or get Updates?
[04:34] <RoC_MasterMind> Edit/Preferences peacho
[04:34] <macogw> instabin: beryl is supported. compiz-fusion isn't supported until gutsy
[04:34] <chealdo> so how will i clean my system...will i reinstall feisty?
[04:34] <macogw> peacho: firefox updates come through the repos automatically
[04:35] <peacho> Ohh
[04:35] <Frogzoo> peacho: options: edit -> preferences
[04:35] <Justi1> macogw: I entered startx // to restart X, but I get the error messages: "(EE) Problem parsing the config file", "(EE) Error parsing the config file", and "Fatal server error: no screens found"
[04:35] <peacho> Never would have thought to look there.
[04:35] <ReMeMBeR> macogw don't write remember mirc is crazy:p
[04:35] <Nutubuntu> peacho,  do you mean set preferences? if so edit > preferences
[04:35] <peacho> Thanks
[04:35] <RoC_MasterMind> peacho, Firefox's Update functionality has been disabled by Ubuntu, because updates for Firefox on Ubuntu already come through Ubuntu's respository channels
[04:35] <macogw> peacho: firefox on ubuntu is slightly modified so the "check for updates" is disabled
[04:35] <macogw> ReMeMBeR: what?
[04:35] <ReMeMBeR> $me :)
[04:35] <peacho> That's kinda what I figured.
[04:35] <instabin> macogw: what does this mean? /usr/bin/compiz.real: decoration: property ignored because version is 20061011 and decoration plugin version is 20070319
[04:35] <griberal> It sounds like the only significant difference between CentOS and Ubuntu Server Edition may be package management.  Thanks for your help.
[04:35] <ReMeMBeR> macogw i said eye light ($me) in mirc:)
[04:36] <RoC_MasterMind> peacho, it's mainly for Windows users and Mac peoples.
[04:36] <macogw> instabin: no idea
[04:36] <macogw> instabin: if you didnt get rid of old compiz stuff that came with ubuntu, it could be confused
[04:36] <Robert__> Can Someone help me. I need to install ubuntu on my pc as a dual boot system but the auto partion doesn't work and i have to do it by hand. Can someone run me through it?
[04:37] <instabin> Well i did what the instructinos said
[04:37] <macogw> Robert__: sure
[04:37] <RoC_MasterMind> !mp3 > Darter
[04:37] <Robert__> so how do we start
[04:37] <macogw> Robert__: do you want to be able to access all your files from both systems or is rebooting to get to some ok (for instance if windows is just for games)?
[04:37] <mikaragua> how do i disable acpi daemon to load from boot time?
[04:38] <macogw> Robert__: and did you defrag your windows at least once?
[04:38] <Justi1> macogw: I entered startx // to restart X, but I get the error messages: "(EE) Problem parsing the config file", "(EE) Error parsing the config file", and "Fatal server error: no screens found"
[04:38] <macogw> Robert__: you should defrag it if you didnt
[04:38] <Robert__> well all my important stuff is on a seporate hdd
[04:38] <macogw> Justi1: O_o ummm
[04:38] <griberal> Speaking of package management, does apt automatically handle dependencies like yum?
[04:38] <macogw> Justi1: seen that recently....
[04:38] <macogw> griberal: yes
[04:38] <Nutubuntu> griberal,  yes it does
[04:38] <RoC_MasterMind> griberal, yes.
[04:38] <macogw> griberal: probably better
[04:39] <Nutubuntu> well - guess we've got *that* covered :)
[04:39] <Robert__> macogw: windows has been defraged.
[04:39] <gsevil> Is build-essential enough to compile a source
[04:39] <griberal> LOL.  Yeah.
[04:39] <macogw> Robert__: the easiest way, IMO to dual boot is to partition first then install windows on one of the partitions, but most people don't like that idea since they dont keep backups
[04:39] <goldbond> does anyone know why i am having a hard time doing *anything* with the /var/www directory with the following permissions?
[04:39] <macogw> Robert__: if you're all defrag'd though, we should be ok on resizing the partition
[04:39] <goldbond> drwxrw-r--  8 root dev   4096 2007-06-25 21:50 www
[04:40] <goldbond> i cannot even change the group back to root
[04:40] <Robert__> sweet are you going to be here. I need to boot to the live cd first
[04:40] <macogw> Robert__: i suggest using GParted (system > admin > Gnome Partitioner)
[04:40] <Robert__> i'll brb
[04:40] <macogw> Robert__: it has a much better gui than the installer and i dont know why they made it stop being the default
[04:40] <Robert__> need to boot to the live cd
[04:41] <Justi1> is there a command to restart the computer?
[04:41] <macogw> Justi1: sudo reboot
[04:41] <Anolis> sudo shutdown -r -t NOW
[04:41] <Anolis> it hink
[04:41] <macogw> Anolis: reboot is shorter to type
[04:41] <Anolis> lol i know
[04:41] <macogw> Anolis: and easier to remember
[04:42] <Jordan_U> Anolis, The -t is not needed
[04:42] <macogw> Anolis: no "i think" involved :p
[04:42] <powergoal> I want to install a more recent version of ndiswrapper than is available in the kubuntu default repositories, how would I do that?
[04:42] <macogw> powergoal: compile it
[04:42] <tinin> Hi, does someone help me to complie a kernel?
[04:42] <macogw> powergoal: first, "sudo apt-get install build-essential" <-- tinin too
[04:42] <tinin> macogw> thanx
[04:42] <Anolis> is there anyway to display messages on a client
[04:42] <Anolis> similar to messenger service on windows
[04:43] <powergoal> macogw: what is the build-essential?
[04:43] <Justi1> oh damn. I spelled extensions "extentions"
[04:43] <macogw> powergoal: compilers, autotools, make...buncha stuff to let you compile
[04:43] <powergoal> macogw: ok
[04:43] <macogw> powergoal: it's just a meta-package that gets all that stuff
[04:43] <macogw> tinin: why do you need to recompile?
[04:44] <tinin> a quick link to a kernel 2.6.22?
[04:44] <macogw> tinin: ah ok
 to get alsa working
[04:44] <powergoal> is there a way to compile it as a package so that its easily removable later, should I desire to do so.  also, is it necessary to remove all current versions of the program through adept, prior to installation?
[04:44] <ReMeMBeR> :/
[04:44] <mikaragua> does apmd have any use for a desktop server? or should i disable this on boot?
[04:44] <tinin>  <macogw>  Is the last thing I try
[04:44] <Jordan_U> !kernel | tinin
[04:44] <ubotu> tinin: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[04:44] <macogw> tinin: um well...its been nearly a year since i compiled a kernel, so i dont know what you do once you get the source
[04:44] <macogw> powergoal: sudo apt-get install checkinstall
[04:45] <tinin> yeah
[04:45] <powergoal> macogw: ok.
[04:45] <bruenig> powergoal, debs are pretty easy format if you take out all the incessant rules, just install it into an empty directory, add a debian directory, put a control file in the debian directory and build it with dpkg
[04:45] <macogw> powergoal: if you use checkinstall wherever directions tell you "make install" it'll create a deb that you can "sudo apt-get remove" later
[04:45] <powergoal> macogw: cool
[04:45] <Hil^Billy> Hi.  I am trying to compile seamonkey under ubuntu.  I get an error that it cannot find gtk+-2.0 in pkgconfig.  I know that ubuntu has gtk+-2.0 installed, but why is there no .pc file for it?
[04:45] <tinin> it creates a deb package esay to use with adept or synaptic
[04:46] <macogw> bruenig: dude, i've been using this for a year, compiled a bunch before, read a few howtos on rolling debs, and i did not understand what you just said
[04:46] <Jordan_U> bruenig, But without those rules it's also a lot like RPM ;)
[04:46] <macogw> s/a year/almost a year
[04:46] <tinin> macogw> but is it complicated to compile the kernel?
[04:46] <bruenig> Jordan_U, it isn't so much the rules that bothered me, it is the insistence that you use their little special scripts
[04:46] <bruenig> debhelper and whatnot
[04:46] <Justi1> macogw: I LOVE YOU
[04:47] <Nutubuntu> awwww : )
[04:47] <macogw> tinin: i followed a howto before and did it within like 2 weeks of starting on ubuntu so i'm gonna go with no
[04:47] <Justi1> THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!
[04:47] <bruenig> macogw, you know how to build a deb?
[04:47] <macogw> Justi1: haha no problem
[04:47] <tinin> ok
[04:47] <macogw> bruenig: nope! those howtos were wayyyy confusing :p
[04:47] <bruenig> macogw, do you know how to build any other package formats?
[04:47] <dan00b> could someone tell me how to know which kernel i have_
[04:47] <dan00b> ?
[04:47] <macogw> tinin: but id say find a howto like i did
[04:47] <Kr00lplatinum> Looking for macogw
[04:47] <macogw> dan00b:  uname -a
[04:48] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: ?
[04:48] <Jordan_U> dan00b, uname -r
[04:48] <macogw> bruenig: nope
[04:48] <munashii> hey, anyone know how to fix the No composite extension error with beryl? i'm using fglrx drivers, direct rendering is on..
[04:48] <dan00b> thanks gonna try that
[04:48] <macogw> bruenig: closest i get is checkinstall
[04:48] <goldbond> hello. i was trying to add permissions to /var/www for a user and it looks like i broke something because i cannot ls or cd into it. here is the situation: http://dpaste.com/14008/
[04:48] <Kr00lplatinum> hey you were helping me out with my ubuntu manual install
[04:48] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: you're robert?
[04:48] <Kr00lplatinum> yes
[04:48] <Jordan_U> munashii, Don't use fglrx or install XGL
[04:48] <bruenig> macogw, oh, well basically you take an empty directory, you put all the files in the empty directory as if the empty directory is root, so if you have a file that you want installed to /usr/bin/foo, you put it in emptydirectory/usr/bin/foo
[04:48] <tinin> macogw, I'll try to find an actual one
[04:49] <dan00b> thanks macogw and everybody
[04:49] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: ok go system > admin > gnome partitioner
[04:49] <munashii> i tried changing xorg.conf to using radeon drivers but that didn't work
[04:49] <macogw> Jordan_U: why do you say that?
[04:49] <powergoal> check install hits an error of permission denied, even when run as root.  and it ultimately causes the compilation to fail.
[04:49] <gangrene> Is there a way to install firefox extensions as non-root user?
[04:49] <powergoal> any idea what I can do to get around it?
[04:49] <macogw> Jordan_U: ohh nevermind i got it
[04:49] <macogw> Jordan_U: i read it as don't do either of those rather than one or the other
[04:49] <macogw> munashii: radeon is only for old cards
[04:49] <Jordan_U> gangrene, Yes, the normal way :)
[04:49] <mhz`> hmm
[04:49] <macogw> munashii: if it's new and fglrx works stick with that
[04:49] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: Ohhhh ahhhh... looks great. Now would should i do
[04:49] <Jordan_U> gangrene, How are you installing them?
[04:49] <RoC_MasterMind> goldbond, in order to enter a directory...you need eXecute permissions..not just read.
[04:49] <munashii> ok
[04:50] <RoC_MasterMind> goldbond, chmod o+x www
[04:50] <gangrene> Jordan_U: using the xpi
[04:50] <munashii> so what could i do to fix this then?
[04:50] <amicrawler> hey guys i did not set my home page  but this dam site keeps comping up
[04:50] <macogw> munashii: as of last check, ubuntu's beryl didn't work with XGL (which is what fglrx needs for beryl) so you need to use the official beryl repos (follow the howto on their wiki) and get rid of ubuntu's universe repos
[04:50] <gangrene> Jordan_U: I can't remember how I did it now.. was a while ago
[04:50] <amicrawler> no matter what i do  even if i set a page still comes up
[04:50] <amicrawler> can any body help
[04:50] <Frogzoo> how to get nohup to NOT create a nohup.out ?
[04:50] <Jordan_U> gangrene, What extension are you trying to install?
[04:50] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: do you want to have a big fat32 partition so that ubuntu and xp can share files so you can open files with whichever you happen to be using?
[04:51] <munashii> alright, i'll check that out, thanks!
[04:51] <RoC_MasterMind> Frogzoo, nohup ./progrsm > /dev/null &
[04:51] <Frogzoo> RoC_MasterMind: thankyou
[04:51] <Kr00lplatinum> That would be great
[04:51] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: sorry, that would be great
[04:51] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: ok first off resize your windows partition
[04:51] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: up to you how small
[04:51] <gangrene> Jordan_U: none at the moment, I'm just asking. I installed one as root a while back because that was the only way I could figure out to do it, however it caused problems later
[04:51] <slavik> ok, enemy territory is driving me crazy, how can I configure dmix properly? aplay -l lists the card I want to use as "card 2" (usb audio)
[04:52] <amicrawler> is there such as browser hi jacking  in linux
[04:52] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: if you just want to throw everything that's not already there into the big fat32 shared part, take it down to not-much-larger-than-currently-filled
[04:52] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: How large would you suggest i make the new partition
[04:52] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: the filled amount being the yellowy part
[04:52] <Jordan_U> slavik, and have you set that as the default card?
[04:52] <goldbond> Roc_MasterMind: ubuntu is not accepting my changes even with sudo. an error is not returned, but no change is made
[04:52] <CineScope> slavik, no sound?
[04:52] <slavik> Jordan_U: where? (it is in "Sound" and in multimedia selector
[04:52] <slavik> CineScope: yes
[04:52] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: thats up to you.  you'll want 5-10gb (10gb if you can spare it so there's more room to install stuff) for ubuntu's system files
[04:52] <slavik> I can do aoss ./et but the sound is really choppy and crappy
[04:53] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: how much ram do you have?
[04:53] <Kr00lplatinum> 2gb
[04:53] <CineScope> i had to add following to my /etc/rc.local to get sound to work
[04:53] <CineScope> echo 'et.x86 0 0 direct' > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
[04:53] <Frogzoo> goldbond: ls -ld /var/www/
[04:53] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: ok i highly doubt you'll be swapping and if you are it wont be 4gb worth
[04:53] <Jordan_U> slavik, I don't game, is enemy territory a native game or are you using wine?
[04:53] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: you can make swap just be like 256mb
[04:53] <CineScope> you could try that and point it at your card
[04:54] <slavik> Jordan_U: native
[04:54] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: put swap near the front as it's faster to read/write to
[04:54] <Jordan_U> slavik, And it only does OSS?
[04:54] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: just behind windows though so you dont need to find a way to move windows
[04:54] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: sorry i just resized the new partition
[04:54] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: yeah i'm just rambling :p
[04:54] <gangrene> Jordan_U: What would you say is the 'easy way' of installing firefox extensions?
[04:54] <RoC_MasterMind> goldbond, that doesn't sound possible..
[04:54] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: the 5-10gb for system files should be ext3 and mounted as /
[04:54] <tama00> i need help - i have just copied over my installation of ubuntu onto my software raid and i wanna set it up so grub will boot off the software raid
[04:54] <Frogzoo> Kr00lplatinum: you can use ramdisk as swap if you have lots of memory
[04:55] <r0dzilla> grrr, I've tried all kinds of things but I can't get X running on nvidia-glx driver, only nv driver.  the nvidia driver complains about not being able to open /dev/nvidia0 (Input/Output Error) and quits
[04:55] <tama00> how can i do this?
[04:55] <jaypro> the set up i have here goes from internet > modem > wireless router > "pc 1".  i have another pc, "pc 2", that i want set up so that it can connect to the net through "pc 1", hardwired.  what do i need to do to "pc 1" in order for that to work?
[04:55] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: Frogzoo meaning dont bother with swap at all?
[04:55] <goldbond> Roc_MasterMind: chmod -R g+x www
[04:55] <goldbond> has no effect
[04:55] <macogw> ah lovely i typed both your names
[04:55] <Jordan_U> gangrene, Going to the extentions page and clicking install :)
[04:55] <macogw> whoops
[04:55] <Frogzoo> macogw: meaning use a swap, but it's on ramdisk, so it's v fast
[04:55] <slavik> CineScope: nope, no sound ... not for card0 not for card2
[04:55] <fungos> what is that tool to see X keycodes?
[04:55] <macogw> Frogzoo: isnt ramdisk just...ram?
[04:55] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: I created a new 40gb partition, now what should i do?
[04:55] <Frogzoo> macogw: it is indeed
[04:55] <slavik> macogw: yes it is
[04:55] <macogw> Frogzoo: how is it currently set up?
[04:56] <Jordan_U> jaypro, Set up internet sharing, it's easy with firestarter
[04:56] <Frogzoo> macogw: swap is usually to a swap partition
[04:56] <macogw> Frogzoo: but if your ram is all in use (2gb...thatll be a while) how can you use swap from it?
[04:56] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: how is it currently set up?
[04:56] <macogw> sorry i sent that message the wrong way
[04:56] <RoC_MasterMind> goldbond, your command is wrong..that adds group permissions.  sudo chmod -R o+rx www
[04:56] <Jordan_U> jaypro, To make things easier install a dhcp server also
[04:56] <Jerome_> anyone know of a .deb package for Pidgin?
[04:57] <macogw> Jerome_: yes!
[04:57] <macogw> Jerome_: i dont know the link
[04:57] <Jordan_U> Jerome_, getdeb.org has one
[04:57] <CineScope> slavik: you'll have to restart for the rc.local to take
[04:57] <macogw> Jerome_: it's linked to on my blog...
[04:57] <macogw> Jerome_: or do what he said
[04:57] <Jerome_> Thanks Joran and macogw
[04:57] <CineScope> slavik: for testing use this -> sudo sh -c 'echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss'
[04:57] <Jerome_> Jordan*
[04:57] <Jordan_U> Jerome_, np
[04:57] <jaypro> Jordan_U> hrmm...  okay...ill try it out
[04:57] <CineScope> it has to be run as root
[04:57] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: i have a /dev/sda1 w/99gb, and a new unallocated 40gb
[04:57] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: ok so 60gb is windows right?
[04:58] <CineScope> and then put it in rc.local if you find one that works
[04:58] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: correct
[04:58] <goldbond> Roc_MasterMind: ls -ld = drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 4096 2006-12-24 00:00
[04:58] <Kavon89> How do I uncompress my 5 gig .rar which is split into 3 parts, totaling 1.5Gb compressed?
[04:58] <goldbond> but i cannot cd
[04:58] <jaypro> Jordan_U> dhcp-relay is the name of the package?
[04:58] <linuxgx> getting rid of default keyring password when using wifi?
[04:58] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: i have to warn you, you may get an error during the actual partitioning about the file system on your ntfs drive. it'll tell you to boot windows and run "chkdsk /f" and reboot twice, do what it says if it tells you that. resizing ntfs is tricky
[04:58] <goldbond> Roc_MasterMind: ls -l = drwxrw-r--  8 root dev   4096 2007-06-25 21:50 www
[04:58] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: if you do what it says it'll be fine
[04:59] <Jordan_U> CineScope, look into tee, it makes using sudo with redirecting output easier
[04:59] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: ok so next you likely dont need swap as...you have a craploaf of ram
[04:59] <macogw> *crapload
[04:59] <Kavon89> !rar
[04:59] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[04:59] <Jordan_U> jaypro, Just dhcp IIRC
[04:59] <RoC_MasterMind> Jerome_, 7.10 has pidgin too...so don't despite.
[04:59] <RoC_MasterMind> *despair
[04:59] <Kavon89> !unrar-free
[04:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unrar-free - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:59] <Jerome_> 7.10?
[04:59] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: so go with 5-10gb ext3 mounting as /
[04:59] <linuxgx> how to get rid of default keyring password when using wifi?
[04:59] <Kavon89> !info unrar-free
[04:59] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[04:59] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: and thats where system stuff is
[04:59] <Jerome_> when is that out?
[04:59] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: " craploaf of ram" what do you mean? i still have to get to windows
[04:59] <slavik> CineScope: any idea how I can find out which dsp my sound card actually is?
[04:59] <jaypro> Jordan_U> iirc? i dont see that in synaptic
[04:59] <jaypro> whats iirc?
[05:00] <Fezzler> Still fighting GNOME lockup/freeze.  Any ideas?
[05:00] <Jordan_U> jaypro, If I Recall Correctly
[05:00] <jaypro> ohhh
[05:00] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: "crapload of ram" is what i meant. 2gb is a lot, so you probably dont need swap. swap is virtual memory...like pagefiles
[05:00] <jaypro> hahahh
[05:00] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: lemme do a quick poll....
[05:00] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: sweet, so i'm still confused i don't know what i have to do can you tell me step by step.
[05:00] <Fezzler> I'm about to copy data files over network and reinstall.  But that doesn't feel right to me.  We can figure this out!  Help!
[05:00] <mhz`> make a swap
[05:01] <macogw> Jerome_, Jordan_U: what do you guys think? make the shared fat32 be /home or make it some /media/stuff and symlink to it in /home/user?
[05:01] <mhz`> swap = 2 * ram
[05:01] <Jordan_U> jaypro, You need to enable Universe ( which is surprising )\
[05:01] <CineScope> slavik: maybe  -> cat /proc/asound/cards
[05:01] <macogw> mhz`: in the 90s
[05:01] <mhz`> ehh, i still do it
[05:01] <John`> what is the command to unrar a specific folder within a rar file but not unrar everything?
[05:01] <Jordan_U> macogw, Shared ext3 as home
[05:01] <John`> using terminal
[05:01] <jaypro> Jordan_U> okay.  i just installed it
[05:01] <linuxgx> how to get rid of default keyring password when using wifi?
[05:01] <macogw> Jordan_U: and have him get the ext2 drivers for windows?
[05:01] <Jordan_U> macogw, Yup
[05:02] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: xp or vista?
[05:02] <mhz`> linuxgx, if you find out..let me know
[05:02] <Kr00lplatinum> xp
[05:02] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: new install of xp
[05:02] <macogw> mhz`: for me thatd mean i had 2gb of swap. i'll never use that much
[05:02] <mylo__> ??tftp
[05:02] <mhz`> i created a 2gb swap
[05:02] <tama00> why does ubuntu use all these UUIDs instead of the devices name in /dev ??
[05:02] <bullium> anyone know of an application that can control totem while it is minimized from the gnome panel?
[05:02] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: ok so you add a new partition
[05:02] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: primary, ext3, /
[05:02] <John`> what is the command to unrar a specific folder within a rar file but not unrar everything withink terminal?
[05:02] <Godchaser> how do i change colors in xchat/ubuntu?
[05:03] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: how large?
[05:03] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: 5-10gb depending on how much stuff you intend to install
[05:03] <Jordan_U> tama00, Because then you can switch things around and they will still mount
[05:03] <linuxgx> how do you get rid of default keyring password when using wifi?  HELP!!!!!!!!!
[05:03] <Fezzler> Is there a command line command that will return my total installed memory?
[05:03] <RoC_MasterMind> Fezzler, free -m...first line
[05:03] <macogw> linuxgx: theres a howto on the forums i think it involves using pam keyring instead
[05:03] <Godchaser> how do i change colors in xchat/ubuntu?
[05:03] <mylo__> !tftp
[05:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tftp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:03] <Raikou`> what's the apt-get file name for flash player for firefox, etc
[05:03] <pike_> Fezzler: cat /proc/meminfo
[05:03] <CineScope> linuxgx: you have to install libpamkeyring or something like that, howto is on the forums
[05:03] <setsukun> Are there drivers for the Radeon 9250?
[05:03] <mneptok> Fezzler: free -m
[05:03] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: so this is the actual Ubuntu system? how am i going to boot back to windows? is that next?
[05:03] <pike_> Fezzler: lots of stuff under proc :)
[05:03] <mhz`> raikou, use synaptics
[05:03] <mhz`> and search
[05:04] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: then the rest can be /home, ext3
[05:04] <Raikou`> where do i find synaptics
[05:04] <tama00> Jordan_U, how can i find out the UUID of my devies?
[05:04] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: this is partitioning
[05:04] <John`> does anyone know?
[05:04] <mhz`> system > administration
[05:04] <Raikou`> k
[05:04] <macogw> setsukun: that uses the open source drivesr
[05:04] <RoC_MasterMind> !nvidia > setsukun
[05:04] <CineScope> linuxgx: but that won't work with autologin, have to actually enter a password during login
[05:04] <macogw> setsukun: they're there by default
[05:04] <Jordan_U> tama00, blkid
[05:04] <tama00> Jordan_U, thanks
[05:04] <Jordan_U> tama00, np
[05:04] <tama00> Jordan_U, wait one last question, can a software raid have a uuid?
[05:04] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: after you get it partitioned, start the installer
[05:04] <mhz`> cine, you can't store the passwd to connect via wifi?
[05:04] <setsukun> macogw, the live CD failed to load when I had it set as my main.
[05:05] <setsukun> Something about X not loading.
[05:05] <RoC_MasterMind> setsukun, also, if you dont' need 3d acceleration...pretty much any card works out of the box fine.
[05:05] <setsukun> I dunno, the window was all screwed up, too.
[05:05] <Jordan_U> !uuid > tama00
[05:05] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: the installer will set up GRUB and show both windows and ubuntu when you turn on the computer
[05:05] <CineScope> mhz`: you can you have to just can't use gnome autologin and have the libpamkeyring thing to work
[05:05] <Jordan_U> setsukun, Did you try safe graphics mode?
[05:05] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: but after you do the partitioning in gparted ill tell you how to set it in the actual installer
[05:05] <Justi1> How do I install a program when I have a tar.bz2 ?
[05:05] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: i just remembered you cant mark mount points in gparted
[05:05] <Fezzler> Free -m reports 630  That can't be right.  I had 128 meg and added a 512 meg for a total of 640 meg
[05:05] <niuq> i've just turn on my computer, and the ntfs partition doesnt appears ...., any idea?
[05:05] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: i miss the old installer :(
[05:06] <Jordan_U> Justi1, What program?
[05:06] <setsukun> Well, I just finished installing Ubuntu, so I haven't tried yet.
[05:06] <macogw> niuq: check /etc/fstab
[05:06] <Justi1> Jordan_U: Pidgin
[05:06] <macogw> Justi1: just go get the deb from getdeb.net
[05:06] <Jordan_U> Justi1, There is a .deb for it at getdeb.net
[05:06] <macogw> Justi1: dont bother compiling it
[05:06] <mhz`> install it from synaptics
[05:06] <mhz`> system > administration
[05:06] <mhz`> do a search for pidgin
[05:06] <rathel> I can't seem to play an ISO in Totem-Xine, I keep getting, "The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?" I'm pretty sure I've got it installed.
[05:06] <norman_> hey how do i setup profile in knetwork manager
[05:07] <macogw> mhz`: its not in the repos dude
[05:07] <niuq> macogw: well there it is
[05:07] <mhz`> its not?
[05:07] <Justi1> Just wondering, how do I compile it?
[05:07] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: ok i made a 37gb primary ext3 what is the next step?
[05:07] <macogw> mhz`: too new
[05:07] <setsukun> Is this channel specifically for Ubunto, or can I ask a question about wine.
[05:07] <Jordan_U> !dvd > rathel
[05:07] <setsukun> Kinda simple, probably.
[05:07] <setsukun> Ubuntu*
[05:07] <macogw> Justi1: you need compilers (build-essential package installs them)
[05:07] <BaD_CrC> grrr, i really hate auto finance companies...  how can i make ubuntu take over citibank and make my account with no negative equity? :] 
[05:07] <niuq> macogw: or at least this # Entry for /dev/sda1 :
[05:07] <niuq> UUID=6AE853D3E8539BDF /media/sda1 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 1
[05:07] <CineScope> ubuntuguide.org has a pidgin walkthrough
[05:07] <Jordan_U> setsukun, You can ask but you may get better help in #winehq
[05:07] <Frogzoo> setsukun: if it's a wine ubuntu question, sure
[05:07] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: so you have windows, something small, and something big of ext3, right?
[05:07] <mhz`> its listed in mine
[05:08] <Fezzler> mnep: could free -m report 630 when 640 is installed?
[05:08] <mhz`> i added the deb sources i think
[05:08] <setsukun> Well, I'm running mIRC in wine. And the treeview has graphic errors in it.
[05:08] <macogw> niuq: then it should be mounted at /media/sda1
[05:08] <setsukun> Is this normal, or can I fix it?
[05:08] <newtubuntu> is there a free equivalent to Acrobat Professional (which allows to edit PDFs, delete pages, add pages, edit text, etc.) rather than just the regular PDF viewer ?
[05:08] <RoC_MasterMind> rathel, it may not be any help, but VLC plays any audio or video I've ever tried to play in it...it's in the repos.
[05:08] <jaypro> Jordan_U> okay how do i enable it?  i started firestarter, then selected wifi0 as the internet connected device.  enable internet connection sharing with eth0, enable dhcp server, then firestarter failed to start
[05:08] <niuq> macogw: it doesnt appears anything in that file
[05:08] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: i have a 99 windows as sda1 and a new partition #1 ext3
[05:08] <cafuego> Fezzler: it could even report 625.
[05:08] <niuq> macogw: it doesnt appears anything in that directory**
[05:08] <macogw> Fezzler: could be a difference between 1000 and 1024 for megabyte counting
[05:08] <Jordan_U> setsukun, Why not use a native app like xchat?
[05:08] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: you need to have 3 partitions
[05:09] <mhz`> mirc is better jordan
[05:09] <mhz`> :)
[05:09] <GMWeezel> what does "http://127.0.0.1/BANNED_DOMAIN" mean?
[05:09] <macogw> niuq: idk...
[05:09] <setsukun> I like mIRC better, I don't feel like learning Perl or Ruby while learning linux/Ubuntu.
[05:09] <Frogzoo> !appdb | setsukun
[05:09] <ubotu> setsukun: Appdb is a database of apps & help for programs that run under wine: see http://appdb.winehq.org
[05:09] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: i only have 2 as of now, what else must i do?
[05:09] <Justi1> should I uninstall the Gaim that came with ubuntu before installing pidgin?
[05:09] <macogw> setsukun: you dont need perl to use xchat
[05:09] <Jordan_U> jaypro, Did it say why it failed to start?
[05:09] <MrElendig> irssi + screen > *
[05:09] <mhz`> yeah justi, use pidgin
[05:09] <RoC_MasterMind> Justi1, sounds like a good idea.
[05:09] <TaJMoX> Justil - i did
[05:09] <macogw> setsukun: you can use irc from gaim/pidgin too while you IM from it
[05:09] <Fezzler> Okay.  My memory is "there."  I ran memtest from boot disk.  Okay.  Boot CD saw two Hard Drives.  Reinstalled xconfig and nvidia.
[05:09] <jaypro> Jordan_U> yeah, unknown wifi0
[05:09] <mhz`> ew, i would not wanna use pidgin for irc
[05:10] <Typwn> Hello everyone.
[05:10] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: you want to have 3 partitions
[05:10] <jaypro> Jordan_U> says unknown, for some reason, but im connected to the net...
[05:10] <Fezzler> Uninstalled troublesome programs.  Why is X or GNOME freezing?
[05:10] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: 1 windows, 1 that's ext3 and 5-10gb, and 1 that's ext3 and the rest of the space
[05:10] <Skrypt> How do I relabel hard drives?
[05:10] <zFliPz> someone can help me i got a problem...
[05:10] <macogw> Fezzler: also, if your graphics card uses shared memory itd take away from it
[05:10] <macogw> Skrypt: you can change the label in /etc/fstab
[05:10] <sdouble> jnot sure zFliPz , we don't know what your problem is
[05:10] <zFliPz> i just installed ubuntu and im getting this after i enter in grub and i select ubuntu...
[05:10] <rathel> RoC_MasterMind, I have VLC but it crashes everytime I load an ISO.
[05:10] <zFliPz> Check root=bootarg cat /proc/cmline
[05:10] <zFliPz> or missing modules, devices: cat/proc/modules ls /dev
[05:10] <zFliPz> ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/ed8e6c38-6385-4810-9b20-8dd597e2a811 does not exist, Dropping to a shell
[05:11] <Fezzler> Graphics card has 256 meg ram
[05:11] <macogw> Skrypt: "sudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[05:11] <Justi1> ok when I try to remove the gaim packages, it is also removing the ubuntu desktop system?
[05:11] <Skrypt> Thank you, macogw.
[05:11] <TaJMoX> Justi1: thats fine
[05:11] <Typwn> I'm trying to use the terminal to get into the Program Files on my windows drive. But for some reason I can't cd to Program Files because of the space. I've tried cd /"Program Files" and cd /'Program Files
[05:11] <macogw> Justi1: shouldnt...
[05:11] <Jordan_U> !ubuntu-desktop | Justi1
[05:11] <ubotu> Justi1: k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[05:11] <macogw> Justi1: might remove ubuntu-desktop but thats a metapackage
[05:11] <Typwn> /'Program Files' but nothing work.
[05:11] <TaJMoX> macogw: its the ubuntu-desktop meta package
[05:11] <macogw> Justi1: if it tries to take the rest, that's bad
[05:11] <Fezzler> Just tried to launch another app on top of gaim.  Frozen again.  Ugh/   What can we do.
[05:11] <TaJMoX> we went over this earlier today with me =] 
[05:11] <macogw> TaJMoX: ive seen it say ubuntu-desktop and list like 200 other things before when it did that
[05:11] <adamonline46> Typwn: program\sfiles?
[05:11] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: i don't get it all i have only made windows partition smaller, created a new partition as ext3 and have 3.12 gb unallocated. How do i actually get the swap partition in so i can boot to win or ubuntu? I know i need 3 partitions how do i set up the last one?
[05:12] <Justi1> how do i tell if it's taking the rest?
[05:12] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: swap isnt for booting
[05:12] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: swap is what we call pagefiles
[05:12] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: you have a lot of ram and won't need a pagefile
[05:12] <Skrypt> macogw, how do I change the name inside of fstab?
[05:12] <TaJMoX> Justi1: ubuntu-desktop is like 200kb
[05:12] <Jordan_U> Justi1, There will be a lot of packages listed to be removed
[05:12] <gsevil> I installed build-essential but I still can't compile program?
[05:12] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: great, now how do i finish the 3rd partition?
[05:12] <Typwn> adamonline46: I'll try that
[05:12] <sdouble> it's Program\ Files
[05:12] <Jordan_U> gsevil, What program?
[05:12] <macogw> Skrypt: the column where things say /home and / and /media/junk is the column where you'll wnat to edit
[05:12] <zFliPz> so no one can help me with my problem ?
[05:13] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: make the 2nd partition smaller
[05:13] <sdouble> you can tab to it anyway.  Prog[hittabhere] 
[05:13] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: make it only 5-10gb
[05:13] <Typwn> adamonline46: No go
[05:13] <Fezzler> Is freezing X server and/or Gnome beyond expertise of this forum?  I'm ready and willing with command line options.
[05:13] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: ok, but why?
[05:13] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: then make a 3rd partition for the unallocated space that's left
[05:13] <adamonline46> Typwn: Alright, sdouble said program\ files
[05:13] <Godchaser> question: is it possible to connect to multi servers using xchat>\?
[05:13] <adamonline46> Typwn: That sounds more like it
[05:13] <mhz`> yes, godchaser
[05:13] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: you can shrink that partition by hitting edit and just grabbing the handle and dragging
[05:13] <Frogzoo> Fezzler: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:13] <Godchaser> how? duK
[05:14] <mhz`> go to xchat > network list
[05:14] <Nutubuntu> Godchaser,  yes  Xchat > Network List ... pick a server, click connect
[05:14] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: this way you can have 1 partition for windows, 1 for ubuntu's system files, and 1 for your files. if you ever have to reinstall, your files are still there and if you ever want to get to your saved pictures or music or whatever while in windows, you can
[05:14] <mhz`> pick whatever and connect
[05:14] <Fezzler> Frog:  Cool.  Crtl Alt F1 and I'll be right back
[05:14] <Typwn> adamonline46: Still no go for some reason
[05:14] <skyfalcon866> is ext4 going to be in gusty gibbon
[05:14] <cafuego> skyfalcon866: unlikely
[05:14] <Godchaser> nutubuntu: even while connected to this server...
[05:14] <Fezzler> Frog: what am I looking for?
[05:14] <Godchaser> ?
[05:14] <sdouble> Typwn: Just type cd Prog[hit your tab key now] 
[05:14] <Skrypt> macogw, so I edit the "/media/sda1" after the UUID to say "/media/whateveriwant"?
[05:14] <Nutubuntu> Godchaser,  yes
[05:14] <Typwn> adamonline46: I got in lol
[05:14] <macogw> dr_willis: who RTFMs these days?
[05:14] <Godchaser> Thanks
[05:15] <macogw> Skrypt: right
[05:15] <skyfalcon866> should i stick to ext3 then or use resiserfs
[05:15] <adamonline46> Typwn: Hmm... I'm out of ideas :/  oh okay cool!
[05:15] <Skrypt> ty
[05:15] <cafuego> skyfalcon866: ext3
[05:15] <Typwn> adamonline46: yeah I had to remove the / before it
[05:15] <Frogzoo> Fezzler: at the end of the file, lines starting EE indicatng a problem
[05:15] <Nutubuntu> Godchaser,  for something nondestructive like that ... where the worst that could happen is you get disconnected for a minute ... hey, just try it :)
[05:15] <dr_willis> skyfalcon866,  depends on your needs.
[05:15] <Typwn> sdouble: Thanks for the help as well ^^
[05:15] <cafuego> skyfalcon866: a filesystem needs to be _stable_ above all else.
[05:15] <Fezzler> Frog: or do you mean literally run "check  /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[05:15] <gsevil> Jordan_U, I installed build-essential but I can't compile dictconv, a software convert babylon glossary to stardict
[05:15] <Frogzoo> Fezzler: nope, 'less /var/log/Xorg.0.log'
[05:15] <skyfalcon866> gneral purpose
[05:15] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: ok i have: 1 windows, 1 10gb ext3, 30gb unallocated
[05:15] <Fezzler> Frog: open it with nano?
[05:15] <cafuego> No amount of perceived speed is useful if it loses your data.
[05:15] <Fezzler> Frog: Less, okay.  BRB
[05:16] <macogw> gsevil: sudo apt-get build-deps $packageYou'reBuilding to get the libraries you need to build
[05:16] <zFliPz> i repeat my question, when i try to boot on my ubuntu im getting this...
[05:16] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: ok now the unallocated, add a partition
[05:16] <zFliPz> Check root=bootarg cat /proc/cmline
[05:16] <zFliPz> or missing modules, devices: cat/proc/modules ls /dev
[05:16] <zFliPz> ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/ed8e6c38-6385-4810-9b20-8dd597e2a811 does not exist, Dropping to a shell
[05:16] <ari_stres1> hello alll :D
[05:16] <Jordan_U> !compile | gsevil You need all of the build dependencies
[05:16] <ubotu> gsevil You need all of the build dependencies: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:16] <sdouble>  /wave ari_stres1
[05:16] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: what do we call it?
[05:16] <mhz`> anyone know how to disable/unlock default keyring
[05:16] <rathel> I can't seem to play an ISO in Totem-Xine, I keep getting, "The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?" I'm pretty sure I've got it installed.
[05:16] <macogw> zFliPz: something's wrong in your /etc/fstab it's looking for a drive that you dont have
[05:16] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: ext? primary?
[05:16] <Jordan_U> zFliPz, What did you do before this started happening if anything?
[05:17] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: you'll name it in the installer's partitioner step anyway
[05:17] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: o that
[05:17] <Raikou`> what's a good partitioning software other than partition magic
[05:17] <ari_stres1> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:17] <ari_stres1>  krb5-user: Depends: libkadm55 (= 1.4.3-5) but 1.4.3-5ubuntu0.4 is to be
[05:17] <ari_stres1> installed E: Broken packages
[05:17] <mhz`> nm, i figured it out
[05:17] <Raikou`> to resize partitions
[05:17] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: ext3 for the file system
[05:17] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: and make it a primary partition
[05:17] <ari_stres1> what's that? Broken packages?
[05:17] <zFliPz> Jordan_U i didnt do anything, i just tryed to boot linux after installing
[05:17] <Typwn> brb
[05:17] <macogw> Raikou`: gparted
[05:17] <Raikou`> ok
[05:17] <tds5016> where is the general ubuntu chat forum?
[05:17] <zFliPz> macogw and what should i do to boot on this linux?
[05:17] <fusheh> zFliPz: grub is pointing to the wrong disc. Going to need to fix that.
[05:17] <tds5016> off topic*
[05:17] <zFliPz> and how i fix it?
[05:17] <macogw> zFliPz: idk. i just know what the error says and what that means in english :p
[05:17] <Frogzoo> !iso | rathel: just a guess, but you probly need to mount the iso on a loopback
[05:17] <ubotu> rathel: just a guess, but you probly need to mount the iso on a loopback: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[05:17] <Nutubuntu> tds5016,  #ubuntu-offtopic I believe :)
[05:18] <osxdude|palmTX> tds5016: It's at the bottom
[05:18] <fusheh> zFliPz: Edit grub from the shell it dropped you into.
[05:18] <tds5016> thanks.
[05:18] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: ok 1 windows dev/sda1, 1 10gb, and one "New Partition #2 30gb ext3
[05:18] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: ok hit apply or ok or whatever button is ther
[05:18] <zFliPz> ill try to get some FAQ how to edit grub in this shell
[05:18] <macogw> zFliPz: you can edit grub when it starts up
[05:18] <zFliPz> u sure?
[05:18] <Jordan_U> zFliPz, Did you do any partitioning after installing Ubuntu?
[05:18] <Raikou`> gparted only runs on linux
[05:18] <macogw> zFliPz: hit esc to enter grub, then e to edit the line you're on
[05:18] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: ok i'm doing that now
[05:18] <Raikou`> i need something that partitions in windows
[05:18] <macogw> zFliPz: make the changes, then b to boot it
[05:19] <palomer> hello
[05:19] <macogw> Raikou`: there's a gparted live cd
[05:19] <MrElendig> Raikou`: partion magic
[05:19] <zFliPz> Jordan_U no, ubuntu partitioned for me my entire disk hdb
[05:19] <palomer> anyone know any alternatives to guichan?
[05:19] <MrElendig> Raikou`: or just use a livecd
[05:19] <Raikou`> other than partition magic?
[05:19] <Raikou`> ok
[05:19] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: AN ERROR OCCURED WHILE APPLYING THE OPERATIONS
[05:19] <macogw> Raikou`: and you dont want to partition while the drive's booted anyway
[05:19] <Raikou`> lol
[05:19] <sdouble> rathel: you cannot install libdvdcss from the ubuntu repositories  Did you follow some online tutorial about how to install it?
[05:19] <fusheh> zFliPz: Just edit menu.lst from your shell.
[05:19] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: is it about ntfs?
[05:19] <zFliPz> fusheh ok thanks
[05:19] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: and telling you to run chkdsk /f in windows?
[05:19] <rathel> sdouble, Which tutorial?
[05:19] <zFliPz> thanks all ill try editing this bitch
[05:19] <zFliPz> :)
[05:19] <Justi1> what does "dependency not satisfiable" mean? I get this when I try to install pidgin
[05:19] <newtubuntu> does Wine have some advantages over VirtualBox or VMWare ?  I installed VirtualBox, ASSUMING that I would be better off with 100% virtualization. Is that a right assumption ?
[05:20] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: says resize /dev/sda1 from 139 to 99
[05:20] <sdouble> rathel: one found when searching for "apt-get install libdvdcss" on google should be sufficient
[05:20] <Jordan_U> zFliPz, Ok, your drive is being incorrectly identified, this can be fixed many ways, the easiest is probably to boot the liveCD
[05:20] <macogw> Justi1: "sudo apt-get build-dep gaim"
[05:20] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: uh huhhh does it say to do chkdsk?
[05:20] <zFliPz> Jordan_U i dont have the CDs
[05:20] <fusheh> newtubuntu: wine has nothing to do with virtualization.
[05:20] <rathel> sdouble, Okay I'll try, I've done https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html and the one on http://ubuntuguide.org
[05:20] <kravlin> either Ubuntu (Dapper Drake) or the AMD Athalon 3000+ don't support the SSE Instruction set. Any idea which one doesnt?
[05:20] <Jordan_U> zFliPz, How did you install Ubuntu?
[05:20] <Fezzler> Frog: Only EE is "EE xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/wacom  no such file or directory"  (I have no wacom device)
[05:20] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: when it does its thing i think a little progress box comes up
[05:20] <sdouble> rathel: just try a simple "sudo apt-get install libdvdcss" right now in your terminal
[05:21] <Justi1> macogw: How do i open up a command promt?
[05:21] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: and you can unfold things with the little arrows on the left
[05:21] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: not that i see but now the windows has a lock on it
[05:21] <macogw> Justi1: ctrl alt f1
[05:21] <Fezzler> Frog: Boy lots of Nvidia settings in there!
[05:21] <zFliPz> i installed wingrub into my boot.ini and ive put linux and initdr.gz into my e:(hdb)
[05:21] <zFliPz> and i booted it
[05:21] <Jordan_U> Justi1, What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[05:21] <zFliPz> for a net install
[05:21] <sdouble> if you haven't disabled the other repositories, it'll tell you if you have it installed already
[05:21] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: if you unfold the little arrows, it should show you what the error is
[05:21] <Justi1> jorday_u: fiesty
[05:21] <Yggdrasil> anyway to play or convert m4a files under ubuntu ?
[05:21] <Jordan_U> Justi1, And do you have universe enabled?
[05:21] <MrElendig> Yggdrasil: yes and yes
[05:22] <Fezzler> Frog: Now what.  PS - GNOME is now frozen as Gaim, Beryl, Network, Volume, Trash still working.
[05:22] <Justi1> jordan_u: i don't know what that is
[05:22] <Justi1> macogw: how do i exit the cmd promt?
[05:22] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: ok i did it again and this time it went through
[05:22] <Jordan_U> !universe | Justi1
[05:22] <ubotu> Justi1: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:22] <macogw> Justi1: check your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:22] <RoC_MasterMind> How do I remove totem multimedia plugin from firefox?  about:plugins says it's called libtotem-basic-plugin.so and there is another, but that file is not in my home directory according to find.
[05:22] <zFliPz> brb soon ill try macogw way to edit grub start menu
[05:22] <macogw> Justi1: ctrl alt f7
[05:22] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: does that mean that it will now boot to windows and ubuntu?
[05:22] <rathel> sdouble, Than I get this: http://pastebin.ca/611928 do I do the -f switch?
[05:22] <Jordan_U> RoC_MasterMind, Remove it from apt
[05:22] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: it hasnt doen install yet
[05:22] <kravlin> either Ubuntu (Dapper Drake) or the AMD Athalon 3000+ don't support the SSE Instruction set. Any idea which one doesnt?
[05:22] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: that was just a partitioner
[05:22] <Jordan_U> RoC_MasterMind, Or Synaptic
[05:23] <darwin81> How will the installer set up my partition table if I have three hard drives and choose "Guided - use largest continuous free space"?
[05:23] <sdouble> it's going to take about 2 minutes for browser to load.
[05:23] <sdouble> heh
[05:23] <RoC_MasterMind> Jordan_U, care to be any more specific?  I don't want to remove totem, just the media plugins, but I guess I can go without totem as well
[05:23] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: now open the installer
[05:23] <Fezzler> Frogzoo: ANy ideas?
[05:23] <dr_willis> darwin81,  i think it just sets up on one hd.. you can manually mount the others where you want.
[05:23] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: and do steps 1-3 then pick manual on 4
[05:23] <Jordan_U> RoC_MasterMind, There is a separate package for the FF plugin
[05:23] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: when you pick manual on 4 i'll tell you what to label everything
[05:23] <Yggdrasil> MrElendig whats the method for converting them into mp3 ?
[05:23] <sdouble> rathel: itjust not loading.  I can't check because there seems to be a problem with my internet.  None of my
[05:24] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: it says that my 8gb is unable to detect file system
[05:24] <sdouble> computers can access the web right now for some reason
[05:24] <Fezzler> What's a simple command line to check how full my two hard drives are?
[05:24] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: your 8gb?
[05:24] <tuotru1> /leave
[05:24] <dr_willis> Fezzler,  df -h
[05:24] <EADG_> sbrath: df -h
[05:24] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: i meant 10
[05:24] <darwin81> With LVM can I have two hard drives and have them show up as one big partition?
[05:24] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: thats ok
[05:24] <Jordan_U> darwin81, It will add two partitions in the currently unpartitioned space, one large one ext3 and a smaller one as swap
[05:24] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: the partitioner is gonna want to format it anyway
[05:24] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: the partitioner that's built into the installer i mean
[05:24] <rathel> sdouble, okay.
[05:24] <dr_willis> darwin81,  ya could.. but ive never risked it. :)
[05:24] <Jordan_U> darwin81, Yes
[05:25] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: i had you  use gparted because it has an easier interface and i can remember what it looks like
[05:25] <Frogzoo> darwin81: yes, that's what LVM does - bit trickier for /
[05:25] <sdouble> yeah, i can't resolve anything currently.  can't even ping a site
[05:25] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: are you on step 4?
[05:25] <sdouble> sdouble@diamond:~$ ping google.com
[05:25] <sdouble> ping: unknown host google.com
[05:25] <Yggdrasil> MrElendig ...
[05:25] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: yes sir
[05:25] <sdouble> yay
[05:25] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: ma'am
[05:25] <Justi1> why can't synaptic find Pidgin?
[05:25] <Vletmix> How can I start the remote desktop server remotely via ssh?
[05:25] <macogw> sdouble: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[05:25] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: lady
[05:25] <macogw> Justi1: because it's not in there
[05:26] <sdouble> macogw: this is my whole network.  Including 1 other linux pc and 2 windows
[05:26] <darwin81> Well I want to use one hard drive as my "/" partition and use LVM to set up the other two as one big "/home" partition
[05:26] <dr_willis> Vletmix,  when i ssh in, i normally just use 'vncserver'
[05:26] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: now i'm on step 4 what should i do?
[05:26] <sdouble> can someone else help rathel with his link?
[05:26] <Vletmix> dr_willis, thankya
[05:26] <Fezzler> Okay.  Memory is there and tested.  Hard drives have plenty of room.  Xserver has been reinstalled.  HMMM.  Why is this freezing up when I use Applications  Places System once?
[05:26] <macogw> sdouble: are you attached to the interwebs?
[05:26] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: choose manual
[05:26] <Jordan_U> Fezzler, Are you using Beryl?
[05:26] <dr_willis> Vletmix,  thats NOT shareing the currently running desktop on the remote box however.
[05:26] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: i'm there
[05:26] <dr_willis> Vletmix,  and vnc might take some setting up. I perfer 'vnc4server'
[05:26] <EADG_> sdouble: Have you powered down your router?
[05:27] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: ok click the 10gb one and the leftmost button under the list
[05:27] <kravlin> so does Ubuntu (Dapper) support the SSE Instruction Set.
[05:27] <Fezzler> Jordan: Installed but off.  Metacity (or whatever) is turned on.
[05:27] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: im sorry i dont know the words on the button..probably edit
[05:27] <dr_willis> kravlin,  i dont see why it wouldent...
[05:27] <sdouble> macogw: I'm not having any problems that can be helped here.  This is my ISP.  No EADG, this JUST started happening while I was helping rathel
[05:27] <macogw> sdouble: ah ok
[05:27] <sdouble> Thank you though.  =] 
[05:27] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: the little thingy that comes up...its going to be / on the bottom box
[05:27] <Fezzler> Funny, when I toggle to command line after freezing and come back with Ctrl Alt F7, all GNOME menus are gone.
[05:28] <EADG_> sdouble: Have your tried a diffrent DNS server? I can dig out a couple if you'de like.
[05:28] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: ok, I selected the 10gb and did edit now it says: use as: mout point
[05:28] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: use as ext3
[05:28] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: mount point /
[05:28] <rathel> sdouble, So it's my fault.
[05:28] <rathel> lol Kidding.
[05:28] <kravlin> dr_willis: #hardware just said that the Processor i have supports SSE and valve said something doesnt. I just want to get my dedicated server running.
[05:28] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: you mean "/"
[05:28] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: hit ok or apply or whatever, then check the little box on the 10gb line that says format
[05:28] <Jordan_U> Fezzler, Do you have the same problem if you create a new user?
[05:28] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: /
[05:28] <sdouble> EADG: I haven't tried anything yet and I'm currently working on something that I'm still connected to, so I don't want to disconnect myself in fear of not being able to get reconnected right away.
[05:28] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: just a slash...it means root
[05:29] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: / is like C:\
[05:29] <darwin81> I have three hard drives. I want to use one as my "/" partition and use LVM to set up the other two as one bit "/home" partition.
[05:29] <Fezzler> Yes.
[05:29] <dr_willis> kravlin,  valve? whats that.
[05:29] <Vletmix> dr_willis, I can't seem to connect... Is there a firewall setting that needs to be made?
[05:29] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: awesome now what should i do?
[05:29] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: did you check format on the 10gb line?
[05:29] <Fezzler> Another clue, time from login to wallpaper loading is long.
[05:29] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: edit the 30gb one now
[05:29] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: also use as ext3
[05:29] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: and the mount point is /home
[05:29] <Frogzoo> darwin81: that'll be fine
[05:30] <kravlin> dr_willis: Creators of Half-life 2 etc. They have dedicated servers under linux
[05:30] <dr_willis> Vletmix,   i normally just install the vnc4server package, run vncserver, and then connect with vncviewer the.ip:sscreen#
[05:30] <Justi1> In ubuntu, are "ctrl + letter" shortcuts the same? like ctrl + c is copy, ctrl+z is undo...?
[05:30] <Justi1> *the same as windows
[05:30] <Nutubuntu> How does LVM handle the loss of a drive, if one of the drives in a logical volume should fail?
[05:30] <dr_willis> kravlin,  no idea on that then.
[05:30] <Fezzler> If I hit Crtl Alt BCSPC now, I'll get login screen again, but if I log in, goes to solid bluescreen with gray rectangle in upper left.
[05:30] <Jordan_U> Justi1, Yes
[05:30] <vinny> can someone check nz.archive.ubuntu.com for me
[05:30] <preaction> Justi1: depends on the application, but for the most part yes
[05:30] <Vletmix> dr_willis, ahh, I wasn't specifying the screen #
[05:30] <Frogzoo> Nutubuntu: lvm is not raid
[05:30] <darwin81> Frogzoo, Can you tell me how to do it from the partition editor on the LiveCD or point me to a guide that does?
[05:30] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: that's liek C:\Users like how it gets default\My Documents and whatever... if your username was rob your stuff would be in /home/rob/
[05:30] <Justi1> ok, cool
[05:31] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: i have 8gb as /dev/sda 2 ext3 / and /dev/sda3 ext 3
[05:31] <Frogzoo> Nutubuntu: if you want raid, you need to either create your lvm on top of a raid device, or raid together separate lvm devices
[05:31] <kravlin> dr_willis: What do you think Program terminated with signal 4, Illegal  instruction means?
[05:31] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: the /dev/sda3 needs to be marked mount point /home
[05:31] <dr_willis> kravlin,  it crashed.. :)
[05:31] <Nutubuntu> Frogzoo,  so far so good ... I understand that. But if I understand LVM -- maybe I don't -- it allows a person to build a big volume out of multiple drives. So what happens if one of them goes blooey?
[05:31] <JoshJ> so, I've got a question. I need to run tesseract on a bunch of files that all start with "dcm1"
[05:32] <JoshJ> they're all in a single folder and i want the output to be flat text in one text file in order
[05:32] <Nutubuntu> Frogzoo,  RAID I understand. LVM, I probably don't
[05:32] <kravlin> dr_willis: W00t. :)
[05:32] <Frogzoo> Nutubuntu: you lose the data from the dead drive
[05:32] <dr_willis> kravlin,  other then that.. no idea. :)
[05:32] <macogw> kravlin: you're going to jail
[05:32] <Fezzler> So answer me this.  If all the menus, desktop toggles, and computer commands are gone, what has crashed? X, GDM, Nautilus?
[05:32] <unagi> E: The package awcommon needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[05:32] <unagi> can anyone help me with that
[05:32] <JoshJ> fezzler: gnome-panel?
[05:32] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: ok i have it the 30 gb as /dev/sda3 ext3 /home
[05:32] <Fezzler> Gaim is humming along as if nothing happened
[05:32] <JoshJ> is there an easy way to run through all those files with one command?
[05:32] <kravlin> macogw: huh?
[05:32] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: ok should be able to hit next now and disregard swap warnings
[05:33] <darwin81> LVM only works from the alternate CD?
[05:33] <macogw> kravlin: illegal instruction joke
[05:33] <tama00> in grubs menu.lst is root= ment to be the root device of the os or the devices of /boot when dealing with software raid?
[05:33] <Frogzoo> darwin81: not sure
[05:33] <Skwid_> is there a tool i can use to recover some data from my fat32 partition under ubuntu ?
[05:33] <kravlin> ah
[05:33] <Fezzler> Would "top" give us any clues at this point?  Should I reinstall gnome-panel?
[05:33] <JoshJ> fezzler try killall gnome-panel
[05:33] <kravlin> macogw: ah. Its not that funny.
[05:33] <JoshJ> it'll restart automatically
[05:33] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: on step 5 do i want to migrate anything?
[05:34] <JoshJ> basically... i need to be able to OCR "dcm1aaa.tif" and "dcm1aab.tif" (and about 60 more along those lines) into one large text file... i'm assuming there's a WAY to do this (xargs or something?) but I don't know how =\
[05:34] <setsukun> Is there a page on how to enable gfx cards?
[05:34] <macogw> kravlin: some windows users in the past thought they'd be arrested and unplugged their comps when they saw that...i dont think its happened much in the last decade though
[05:34] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: no
[05:34] <Fezzler> Joshj: okay, will that kill this instance of Gaim if it works?
[05:34] <Nutubuntu> Skwid_,  is the partition still there?
[05:34] <setsukun> Everytime I try to use my Radeon it says X cannot be started.
[05:34] <JoshJ> fezzler no
[05:34] <unagi> i broke my apt-get =(
[05:34] <Skwid_> Nutubuntu: yeah
[05:34] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: unless you *want* to bring your windows wallpaper with you...
[05:34] <JoshJ> gaim and gnome-panel are not the same thing
[05:34] <Fezzler> BRB
[05:34] <tds5016> how do I get mozilla to use mozilla-mplayer as the media player?
[05:34] <macogw> unagi: mine's broken too i think
[05:34] <Skwid_> Nutubuntu: i think most of the stuff is still there, but i think the boot sector is bunked or something
[05:34] <macogw> unagi: it tells me there's no installation candidate for anything
[05:34] <Typwn> Hmmm. Does anyone know how to go about fixing the following error? "Python C API version mismatch for module gddb_parser: This Python has API version 1013, module gddb_parser has version 1012."
[05:35] <Nutubuntu> But you've got Ubuntu running, then? Skwid_
[05:35] <Fezzler> Joshj: DOne
[05:35] <rathel> I'm still having issues playing a dvd in ISO format, I have GXine, Totem-Xine, and VLC, installed libdvdcss2 libdvdread3...
[05:35] <JoshJ> Fezzler, did they restart and come back up like they're supposed to?
[05:35] <Skwid_> Nutubuntu: yeah, on a different partition
[05:35] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: how do you know so much? do you have my space or anything like that?
[05:35] <tds5016> how do I get mozilla to use mozilla-mplayer as the media player?
[05:35] <techjim> elkbuntu: ping, I have a quick Q about your blog?
[05:35] <Nutubuntu> Yeah, Skwid_ you can mount a vfat (fat32) partition and read from it or write to it.
[05:35] <bruenig> tds5016, sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer && sudo apt-get remove totem-mozilla
[05:35] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: well ive screwed up dual booting enough times to learn what not to do
[05:36] <Skwid_> Nutubuntu: it won't mount
[05:36] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: the reason my computer lacks windows is because i didnt defrag first and got fed up trying to dual boot
[05:36] <Skwid_> gparted says it can't read it either, Nutubuntu
[05:36] <Fezzler> Joshj: No, when I popped back with Ctrl Alt F7, the gray bars that were on the top and bottom of screen where gone now.
[05:36] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: i remembered to defrag when i did my friend's new computer last week though
[05:36] <JoshJ> Fezzler, sorry, then i can't help?
[05:36] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: I only use windows for my games
[05:36] <Fezzler> JoshJ; So I have wallpaper, Beryl Manager Icon, and Gaim humming along.
[05:37] <switchcat> Q: when you install ubuntu 7.04 it gives you the option of transferring accounts (and I assume home directories) from other systems on the same computer.  How can you re-do that if you hook up a drive that wasn't hooked up when you first installed?
[05:37] <Fezzler> Joshj: Thanks for trying.
[05:37] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: why don't you download iobit defrag?
[05:37] <JoshJ> uh, type "gnome-panel &"
[05:37] <JoshJ> so they come back up
[05:37] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: i wouldve used windows to make sure my sites dont look fscked in IE
[05:37] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: i assumed a brand new computer right out of the box wouldn't need to be defrag'd
[05:37] <Fezzler> Joshj: "gnome-panel &"   <----- me?
[05:37] <Nutubuntu> Skwid_,  what is the exact error message?
[05:37] <JoshJ> sure
[05:37] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: i was wrong
[05:37] <witless> hello.  is it possible to remap a keystroke to send a "mouse button down" event?
[05:37] <Skwid_> Nutubuntu: from gparted ?
[05:37] <Fezzler> ok, BRB
[05:37] <Typwn> Hmmm. Does anyone know how to go about fixing the following error? "Python C API version mismatch for module gddb_parser: This Python has API version 1013, module gddb_parser has version 1012."
[05:37] <Nutubuntu> Skwid_,  yes
[05:38] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: lol, yeah unless you built the system it needs a lot of work
[05:38] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: and ntfs didnt like to be resized while fragmented, so i just ditched the windows partition and went with full ubuntu
[05:38] <kravlin> !pastebin
[05:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:38] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: that's great if you don't have any ati or creative products in your computer
[05:38] <Skwid_> Nutubuntu: /dev/sda5: can't read superblock
[05:38] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: all intel graphics and chipsets for me
[05:38] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: perfect support in linux usually
[05:38] <Nutubuntu> Skwid_,  :/    That I don't know how to deal with. Maybe someone here does though.
[05:39] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: is that a laptop?
[05:39] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: unless you have a graphics card that didnt exist when the distro's release happened, like the X3000 users
[05:39] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: yeah
[05:39] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: my lapto and my mom's desktop are all intel stuff
[05:39] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: so they run ubuntu just fine. the ati card in this desktop is being evil about resolution though
[05:40] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: how old are you exactly? you have any degrees in pcs?
[05:40] <Jordan_U> Kr00lplatinum, If you are looking for good hardware support you could always try getting a comp with Linux pre-installed :)
[05:40] <bobsomebody> i c u 124.40.41.31
[05:40] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: 18....59 credits into a BA-IA/CS
[05:40] <RoC_MasterMind> Kr00lplatinum, dell.com/ubuntu....funny enough they charge a little premium
[05:40] <macogw> RoC_MasterMind: dell.com/open
[05:40] <Fezzler> Joshj: gnome-panel & produces...[2]  6373  $prompt: cannot open display   run gnome-pane help for more command options
[05:40] <macogw> RoC_MasterMind: or ubuntu.com/dell
[05:40] <Jordan_U> RoC_MasterMind, What premium?
[05:40] <JoshJ> ugh
[05:40] <JoshJ> no idea what the problem is then
[05:40] <RobFromMO> Anyone here ever have any problems installing the vmware-server package?
[05:40] <JoshJ> can you simply restart?
[05:40] <JoshJ> =\
[05:40] <RoC_MasterMind> Jordan_U, they charge extra money despite no licensing costs
[05:41] <Kr00lplatinum> No i build all my machines but i'm looking for ati tvtuner 650 drivers
[05:41] <Jordan_U> RoC_MasterMind, No they don't
[05:41] <macogw> RoC_MasterMind: no they dont
[05:41] <Fezzler> Joshj or anyone:  X must be running or this instance of Gaim would not be working, correct?
[05:41] <macogw> RoC_MasterMind: it's $500-100 less for ubuntu
[05:41] <adamonline46> !sqlite
[05:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sqlite - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:41] <RoC_MasterMind> Not as of a few days ago.
[05:41] <JoshJ> yeah, that's correct
[05:41] <Fezzler> So have we narrowed this issue to Gnome
[05:41] <Creeture> Hello all. I have a random question and I can't think of a better forum. I'm a long-time Linux geek, and as such I know a lot of stuff about a lot of stuff. Does anybody have any examples of how to make that look good on a resume?
[05:41] <macogw> RoC_MasterMind: $50-100 i mean
[05:41] <ShockValue> is CNR kinda stupid, or should i bother going through the process of signing up?
[05:41] <adamonline46> Is there an SQLite package?
[05:41] <RoC_MasterMind> When I looked at it a few months ago when it debuted they were more expensive too.
[05:41] <Jordan_U> Kr00lplatinum, For Linux support stay away from ati in the future.
[05:42] <macogw> RoC_MasterMind:  and windows costs them only  like $50 because they buy so much
[05:42] <macogw> RoC_MasterMind: no they didnt
[05:42] <JoshJ> basically... i need to be able to OCR "dcm1aaa.tif" and "dcm1aab.tif" (and about 60 more along those lines) into one large text file... i'm assuming there's a WAY to do this (xargs or something?) but I don't know how. can anyone help?
[05:42] <EADG_> ShockValue: CNR is live now?
[05:42] <Justi1> how do I minimize from a fullscreen application?
[05:42] <macogw> RoC_MasterMind: i added it up and the ubuntu ones were all less
[05:42] <macogw> RoC_MasterMind: there was 1 that looked more expensive
[05:42] <RoC_MasterMind> OK.
[05:42] <ShockValue> EADG_ i dont know, i was just reading about it coming along.
[05:42] <Kr00lplatinum> macogw: ok i have to restart, i hope it works i'll be back if it didn't
[05:42] <EADG_> ShockValue: Web site was still down when I checked this morning.
[05:42] <macogw> RoC_MasterMind: but it turned out to have a MUCH better CPU than the windows one
[05:42] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: kk
[05:42] <macogw> Kr00lplatinum: if it doesnt use the cd to get back hered
[05:42] <mikmorg> could someone help explain why doing a 'dpkg --purge --pending', after having done --set-selections so that all dependencies are removed, why it would still break due to dependencies? If I do --force-depends, and then --audit, it shows ok.
[05:43] <adamonline46> What's a TCL Binding?
[05:43] <Creeture> JoshJ: Of course you could do it a hundred different ways. Probably the easiest is a simple script something like for file in *.tif; do ocr $file >> outputfile.txt; done
[05:43] <EADG_> ShockValue: I don't think they will too much more than apt-get already offers. But it looks like a good site to browse programs...
[05:43] <Fezzler> Recap for Ubuntu gurus: Gaim is running.  Wallpaper is up.  GNOME is crashed.  Can't figure out what is wrong.
[05:43] <macogw> RoC_MasterMind: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/macoafi/winbuntu.png for the Inspiron 530 price comparison
[05:44] <JoshJ> doh
[05:44] <JoshJ> i wasn't even thinking about writing a shell script
[05:44] <Fezzler> Hard reboot or command line reboot is only way to reload gnome (that I know of)??
[05:44] <cabomix> hello everybody!
[05:44] <JoshJ> i did figure out that it would involve >> somehow though
[05:44] <woodwizzle> i have a drive i keep all my music on. Nautilus in the status bar says I have 55.5 gigs free, but when I try to create a new folder I get an error saying I'm outta space?!
[05:44] <MrElendig> woodwizzle: df -h
[05:44] <xork> I have a question -- I have two external firewire drives connected which get seen as /dev/sdb1 & /dev/sdc1.. but they get reversed randomly at boot.. little annoying.. can't find a fix!  any ideas?
[05:44] <mhz`> will dell let you go without an os?
[05:45] <JoshJ> mhz`, you can get one with FreeDOS
[05:45] <JoshJ> which has no OS loaded
[05:45] <Creeture> Fezzler: Is Gnome crashed or is the window manager crashed? Try starting metacity, although I can't think of an easy way how.
[05:45] <JoshJ> you can also get stuff from dell with ubuntu
[05:45] <JoshJ> Creeture, metacity is working for him
[05:45] <JoshJ> he's on gaim atm
[05:45] <MrElendig> xork: you can set up a udev rule for that
[05:45] <mhz`> yeah, i saw that people above
[05:45] <setsukun> Are there drivers for the Radeon 9250?
[05:45] <JoshJ> so it's not that, it's a couple menus and stuff that's not working for him
[05:45] <woodwizzle> MrElendig, /dev/sdb1             187G  131G   56G  71% /storage
[05:45] <MrElendig> xork: or mount by uuid instead of device
[05:45] <xork> MrElendig, which would you recommend?
[05:45] <joebob777as7> hey i'm having sound issues... there is no sound... lol can someone help?
[05:46] <macogw> setsukun: that should be the open source ones
[05:46] <AncientPC> hey, I have a problem with my media keys on my laptop (Dell Inspiron 6000).  All keys except for the stop button works.  I tried xev but the stop button doesn't trigger any events.
[05:46] <macogw> setsukun: did you check the cd for errors?
[05:46] <setsukun> Link me, please?
[05:46] <setsukun> macogw, Yes.
[05:46] <setsukun> Didn't find any.
[05:46] <Creeture> joebob777as7: Enjoy the quiet. ;) /me has had a loud, obnoxious kid all day.
[05:46] <setsukun> X just doesn't want to start when I have PCI/my Radeon enabled.
[05:46] <MrElendig> or if you use hal to automount, you can set up a hal rule
[05:47] <mortuis99> if i install wine do i also need to install windows for wine to work?
[05:47] <joebob777as7> thanks Creeture i'll take it under consideration... but i can't listen to any tunes to relax....
[05:47] <MrElendig> you can also mount by label :)
[05:47] <fusheh> mortuis99: No you dont.
[05:47] <fragility> I have been doing battle with getting ubuntu to work pretty much every day for two weeks, could someone PLEASE have a private conversation with me, I have got almost NO help on the forums
[05:47] <cabomix> how can I create an iso file with kb3?
[05:47] <ShockValue> anyway to tell if my cpu has hyperthreading by looking at the cpuinfo (or other?)?  its a p4 that was made right at the boundry when some were and some werent
[05:47] <Fezzler> Creeture: I have no way of loading Metacity, unless there is a command line
[05:47] <xork> MrElendig, too many options! overload
[05:47] <fragility> and have had every problem under the sun and my perforamnce just keeps degrading
[05:47] <xork> MrElendig, which do you recommend i look into first? :P
[05:47] <fragility> I cant get answers to specific questions or general help
[05:48] <joebob777as7> i can't figure it out it all looks good... it used to work and then one day no sound...
[05:48] <setsukun> I'd love to use Ubuntu, but I can't use either my GFX or soundcard. :\
[05:48] <JoshJ> ShockValue, just load up the gnome-system-monitor
[05:48] <MrElendig> if you want them to have the same /devsdsomething every time, then use a udev rule
[05:48] <setsukun> Kinda sucks.
[05:48] <newtubuntu> I understand that Wine and virtualization are 2 completely different animals. But I would like to know if an application WORKS in Wine, do I have advantages to use it in Wine rather than in a fully virtual machine (I've setup an XP VirtualBox on my system).  Also:   is data integrity safe in Wine for applications such as accounting and databases (FileMaker) ?
[05:48] <JoshJ> just load that up and look to see if there's one CPU bar or two
[05:48] <Fezzler> Creeture:  After long time between login and wallpaper/gnome-panel load, one attempt with an app or menu item and system freezes.
[05:48] <xork> MrElendig, thanks.. I'll look into that
[05:48] <MrElendig> newtubuntu: it will probably run faster in wine
[05:48] <AncientPC> newtubuntu: There's less overhead with wine, but it's not guaranteed to work.  Virtualization guarntees it to work with the cost of overhead.
[05:48] <setsukun> I just need links to some drivers.
[05:49] <RobFromMO> I'm trying to remove my previous installation of vmware-PLAYER and trying to install the vmware-SERVER package and it's telling me that I need to completely uninstall the old package...I've uninstalled it through Synaptic, but it still gives the error.....any ideas?
[05:49] <JoshJ> ugh Creeture
[05:49] <JoshJ> tesseract doesn't like that way of doing things
[05:49] <Fezzler> Creeture: This time, I loaded Gaim.  So gaim is humming along.  I have wallpaper and Beryl Manager icon on desktop.  That's it.
[05:49] <setsukun> Or some help editing xorg.conf.
[05:49] <joebob777as7> RobFromMO, delete the install dir
[05:49] <AncientPC> newtubuntu: The only way to know if something works with wine is to use it.
[05:49] <JoshJ> Creeture,  the syntax is tesseract foo.tif bar.txt and it outputs to foo.txt
[05:49] <Jordan_U> setsukun, What GPU and soundcard?
[05:50] <setsukun> Radeon 9250.
[05:50] <setsukun> Creative X-fi Extreme Audio.
[05:50] <Justi1> is there a way to open a command prompt without taking up the whole screen?
[05:50] <JoshJ> so i'm not sure what to do here... maybe cat bar.txt >> result.txt?
[05:50] <mortuis99> i have been trying to use wine but there is no real good directions on HOW
[05:50] <Jordan_U> JoshJ, Is there a .deb of tesseract work for you?
[05:50] <fusheh> Justi1: What do you mean?
[05:50] <JoshJ> Jordan_U, the tesseract program works
[05:50] <JoshJ> the problem is i have 60+ tif's
[05:51] <macogw> setsukun: did you use safe graphics mode at all?
[05:51] <JoshJ> $ for file in dcm1*; do tesseract $file part.txt; cat part.txt >> final.txt; done  <-- i think this is going to work
[05:51] <fusheh> mortuis99: What do you want to do with wine?
[05:51] <Fezzler> Will any command line options or looking at a config or log file tell us anything?
[05:51] <jmchaffie> ok, sorry for the extended delay..
[05:51] <mortuis99> i wanna run a windows app
[05:51] <jmchaffie> macogw: you get set?
[05:51] <Justi1> fusheh: I press ctrl alt F1 to get cmd prompt, but it goes into full screen. Is there a way to put it in a window, like in MS windows?
[05:51] <joebob777as7> mortuis99, look into wine
[05:51] <JoshJ> hm
[05:51] <JoshJ> that doesn't work
[05:51] <woodwizzle> MrElendig, df -h says I have only used  71% of that drive. and that I should have 56g free
[05:51] <setsukun> mortuis99: apt-get install wine
[05:51] <fragility> I use a p3 with 800 mhz on windows xp a work and it runs way more smoothly than my notebook with a 1500 mhz processor and 1024 ram
[05:51] <JoshJ> oh
[05:51] <JoshJ> doh
[05:51] <JoshJ> it adds a .txt of its own
[05:52] <fragility> will someone knowledgable and compassionate PLEASE pm me
[05:52] <fusheh> Justi1: Uhmm you arent in gnome?
[05:52] <Jordan_U> JoshJ, Does it work well? gocr did horribly for me
[05:52] <newtubuntu> all I need to install is the Wine package under Synaptic and related files ?
[05:52] <JoshJ> Jordan_U, it works better than ocrad for me
[05:52] <Jordan_U> !helpme | fragility
[05:52] <mhz`> anyone have experience changing an eggdrop's character set? i need it to join a chan that has ascii characters in the name
[05:52] <JoshJ> but i'm not sure what it's going to come out as
[05:52] <ubotu> fragility: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:52] <JoshJ> i'm trying to get a whole list of the DC Madam phone records in a flat text format
[05:52] <sdouble> fragility: is your 1500 mhz processor a celeron?
[05:52] <Justi1> fusheh: I am in gnome, until I enter the command prompt
[05:52] <RobFromMO> Cool, thanks joebob.....the directory is /etc/vmware for future reference.....
[05:52] <JoshJ> Justi1, use gnome-terminals
[05:52] <fragility> no its a centrino
[05:52] <fusheh> mortuis99: just "wine app.exe" and hope it works ;P
[05:52] <joebob777as7> can someone help me troubleshoot my sound issue? i'm on an x60 laptop
[05:53] <JoshJ> as in the application
[05:53] <JoshJ> application-accessories-gnome terminal
[05:53] <sdouble> hmmm, then that IS a problem
[05:53] <Fezzler> Should I reinstall gdm or gnome-panel
[05:53] <sdouble> if it was a celeron, I would say it was performing as it should be.
[05:53] <JoshJ> $ for file in dcm1*; do tesseract $file part; cat part.txt >> final.txt; done <-- this seems to work
[05:53] <Justi1> joshj: oh ok! thank you
[05:53] <fusheh> Justi1: Then just open up "Applications --> accesories --> Terminal
[05:53] <fragility> the thing is it WAS working, just not well, it and I reformmated hoping a clean install would stop some of the problems it was having and its just running even more slowly
[05:53] <fragility> the comptuer is barely usbale
[05:53] <JoshJ> Jordan_U, you can apt-get install ocrad tesseract
[05:53] <JoshJ> to see how they do
[05:53] <Justi1> sorry I'm really new to this
[05:53] <fragility> I would spend my time doing something else instead of using a compuer so slow
[05:53] <sdouble> are you able to access the memory?
[05:53] <macogw> setsukun: the thing is, you dont install drivers for that card. they're part of ubuntu
[05:53] <JoshJ> so am i :p
[05:53] <jmchaffie> macogw: SOrry about the extended delay... did you get all setup?
[05:53] <newtubuntu> Is Wine reliable or dangerous for data integrity. In other words, would you feel SAFE running an accounting application and database application from Wine ?
[05:53] <Jordan_U> JoshJ, tesseract is only available for Gutsy, no?
[05:54] <macogw> jmchaffie: havent gotten around to it
[05:54] <JoshJ> dunno
[05:54] <JoshJ> i'm in gutsy so maybe
[05:54] <sdouble> if so and there are 2 sticks, remove one and see if it runs better.  If not, remove the other and check
[05:54] <fragility> NO, my computer shows 1024, but refuses to use more than 300 or 400 even when the cpu is at 100% and it is stalling
[05:54] <fragility> and it wont use any of the page file
[05:54] <jmchaffie> macogw: ok that's cool
[05:54] <Fezzler> Joshj or Jordan:  Should I try another channel?  Linux or some other channel?  Where do advanced Linux users hang?
[05:54] <fragility> PLEASE pm me, I cant really follow this conversation and do anything else on the comp with how slow it is going
[05:54] <Jordan_U> JoshJ, Then yes, that is what I am using too though so it's not a problem :)
[05:54] <Creeture> JoshJ: If you were feeling funky, you could make part.txt a fifo and write a little perl quickie to read from the fifo and drop it into a file. Depends on what kind of performance you need.
[05:54] <JoshJ> Creeture, not performance, but repeatability
[05:54] <kr00lplatinum> macogw: you are awesome! it works great!
[05:54] <joebob777as7> sound issues...
[05:55] <mhz`> anyone have experience changing an eggdrop's character set? i need it to join a chan that has ascii characters in the name?
[05:55] <JoshJ> i'm just trying to get the DC Madam stuff in a flat text file so i can regex out some phone numbers and have some fun
[05:55] <JoshJ> :)
[05:55] <Jordan_U> fragility, Did you try creating another user or using safe mode like I asked?
[05:55] <JoshJ> http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=2921315  <-- link in question
[05:55] <Creeture> JoshJ: Ah. Boy, you need a hobby. :)
[05:55] <jmchaffie> 'tis  a sad thing when a 128MB ati 9600 is more stable and smooth , than a 7600GS 256MB nVidia :(
[05:55] <JoshJ> Creeture, i'm a politics junkie
[05:56] <JoshJ> and this is going to be damn funny
[05:56] <JoshJ> to see how many "family value" republicans
[05:56] <JoshJ> are on the list
[05:56] <JoshJ> :D
[05:56] <JoshJ> one's already been found
[05:56] <joebob777as7> can anyone help with a sound problem?
[05:56] <kr00lplatinum> macogw: ???? you around????
[05:57] <Creeture> JoshJ: The funnies part about that link is that it recommends the use of "pkunzip.exe" to open the records. Good old PKWare, I remember ye well.
[05:57] <JoshJ> haha
[05:57] <p1ls> hey what is a good swf player for ubunu
[05:57] <JoshJ> yeah that's lolz
[05:57] <sdouble> p1ls: flash?
[05:57] <Jordan_U> p1ls, Firefox + flashplugin is all there is
[05:57] <unagi> ok weird question does xorg.conf conbtrol all of ubuntu or just a user
[05:57] <JoshJ> shockwave doesn't work on linux
[05:57] <macogw> kr00lplatinum: yeah
[05:57] <macogw> kr00lplatinum: howd it go?
[05:57] <JoshJ> flash and gnash are the best bet for actual flash
[05:58] <Justi1> is there a way to install a large group of beryl plugins all at once, instead of individually?
[05:58] <Jordan_U> p1ls, Unless you count gnash
[05:58] <Creeture> Y'all quit talking about fun stuff. I have a resume to write.
[05:58] <JoshJ> flash being non-free and gnash being free
[05:58] <JoshJ> Creeture, lol
[05:58] <p1ls> i download a file
[05:58] <jmchaffie> macogw: I gotta git. early day tomorrow. email me if you still need help tomorrow... I reinstalled my ati card a bit ago .. lol .. I will also dig up some of my old stuff just in case eh?
[05:58] <p1ls> and its .swf
[05:58] <p1ls> with mplayer and movie player the quality sucks
[05:58] <macogw> jmchaffie: ok thanks
[05:58] <JoshJ> try flashplayer-nonfree then
[05:58] <jmchaffie> later daze all!
[05:58] <kr00lplatinum> macogw: yeah its awesome
[05:58] <macogw> Justi1: you could list them when you download them
[05:58] <Fezzler> Joshj, Creeture, Jordan:  Google item recommends deleting file .recently_used??
[05:58] <unagi> if i have 2 usernames on my ubuntu and i alter the xorg.conf does it alter the settings for both users or just the one
[05:58] <JoshJ> no idea Fezzler
[05:58] <JoshJ> i'm not an expert in GNOME
[05:58] <macogw> kr00lplatinum: yay. also, google for "ext2 driver windows" and install that on windows
[05:58] <macogw> kr00lplatinum: that'll give you access to the /home drive
[05:59] <JoshJ> i just remember menus locking up in the past and "killall gnome-panel" taking care of it for me
[05:59] <JoshJ> though it seems your problem is different
[05:59] <macogw> kr00lplatinum: the reason i had you make it ext3 instead of fat32 even though both see fat32 easily is that fat32 needs to be defragmented and ext3 doesn't
[05:59] <Fezzler> But I think we all think the issue here is GNOME.  So I'll try Googling GNOME crash solutions.
[05:59] <logreeval> how do I start the menu bars in ubuntu
[05:59] <logreeval> what command that is...?
[05:59] <macogw> RoC_MasterMind: i see where the windows ones would be cheaper. there are a few hardware freebies on the windows inspiron 1420 laptop
[06:00] <Justi1> But I am confused where I download the beryl plugins
[06:00] <macogw> RoC_MasterMind: on the desktops, ubuntu is cheaper and as to the other laptop, it no longer exists for windows
[06:00] <pike_> logreeval: menu bars. you mean gnome-panel?
[06:00] <macogw> Justi1: mostly they install when you install beryl
[06:00] <kr00lplatinum> macogw: sweet, i haven't booted into windows yet. Would you know how to run wine? i'm trying to install WarCraft 3
[06:00] <unagi> can anyone help me with xorg.conf?
[06:00] <macogw> Justi1: the unsupported ones are the only ones that dont install automatically
[06:00] <JoshJ> what's a good way to look at text files that are being written to?
[06:00] <logreeval> pike_: yes, apparently its running, but i cant see them ??
[06:00] <Jordan_U> unagi, What problem are you having?
[06:01] <JoshJ> like just to see what's going on with them?
[06:01] <pike_> logreeval: kill it. it should respawn. 'pkill gnome-panel'
[06:01] <macogw> kr00lplatinum: pick wine from the package manager (sytem > admin > synaptic) i assume
[06:01] <macogw> JoshJ: tail -f
[06:01] <macogw> JoshJ: itll output the writes in the terminal as they happen
[06:01] <logreeval> thanks
[06:01] <JoshJ> hm
[06:01] <unagi> Jordan_U:  i had to alter my xorg.conf to disable some options to run maya....but i dont want it to be off all the time....is there a script i can run to change xorg.conf when i run maya or cahow about does xorg.conf apply to all ubuntu or is it user specific
[06:01] <macogw> kr00lplatinum: ubuntuguide.org can tell you i think
[06:01] <Justi1> macogw: are all the plugins listed on their site supported?
[06:02] <macogw> Justi1: there's a package in the ubuntu repos that's called beryl-plugins-unsupported or something
[06:02] <kr00lplatinum> macogw: do you know how to get beryl working so it looks sweet? like the people on youtube.com
[06:02] <macogw> Justi1: it includes snow
[06:02] <Jordan_U> unagi, It applies to all users, and for most things you need to restart X for changes to take effect
[06:02] <macogw> kr00lplatinum: what graphics card do you have?
[06:02] <logreeval> pike_: the reason i ask, is because i JUST added beryl to startup and now i booted up and i couldnt see the menu bars
[06:02] <joebob777as7> can anyone help with a sound problem?
[06:02] <Justi1> macogw: sorry, where do I find the repository?
[06:02] <unagi> hrm maybe ill just have 2 copies of xorg.conf and switch them
[06:02] <slytherin> Which instant messenger supports at least viewing yahoo webcam?
[06:02] <macogw> Justi1: look in add/remove
[06:03] <macogw> slytherin: kopete
[06:03] <kr00lplatinum> macogw: Nvidia 7900gtx
[06:03] <linuxgx> Link to Wine IRC please!!!
[06:03] <slytherin> macogw: Does the version in feisty support it?
[06:03] <lordofthepigs> Hello! Is there a way to search through installed packages with apt-cache?
[06:03] <logreeval> is there a way to delay i startup item?
[06:03] <macogw> kr00lplatinum: go to the system > admin > restricted driver manager and enable the nvidia driver
[06:04] <mhz`> anyone have experience changing an eggdrop's character set? i need it to join a chan that has ascii characters in the name?
[06:04] <linuxgx> Link to Wine IRC please
[06:04] <macogw> kr00lplatinum: then it should just be a matter of checking it off in add/remove
[06:04] <macogw> slytherin: i believe so
[06:04] <macogw> linuxgx: #winehq
[06:04] <youkilldkennedy> Does anyone have a clue as to why Feisty is booting so slow for me?
[06:04] <kr00lplatinum> macogw: would you suggest automatix?
[06:05] <Kavon89> Are these good instructions to follow to update my ATI drivers? How do I check what version I currently have??  http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide
[06:05] <lordofthepigs> Or with any other tool?
[06:05] <joebob777as7> can anyone help with a sound problem?
[06:06] <unagi> !pastebin
[06:06] <JoshJ> now that i've got a text file how do i regex it out...
[06:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:06] <luical> hey i have problems mounting my drives, in my secondary drive i cannot delete files, can someone help me please
[06:06] <Kavon89> Are these good instructions to follow to update my ATI drivers? How do I check what version I currently have??  http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide
[06:06] <youkilldkennedy> luical, is it a windows drive?
[06:07] <luical> is ntfs drive, i already downloaded ntfs 3g and used it
[06:07] <unagi> i broke my apt-get.....http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29316/
[06:07] <unagi> can anyone help me
[06:07] <JoshJ> doh, grep
[06:08] <luical> when i try to delete a file, it pops up a window saying: it is not in the same file system
[06:08] <Justi1> to enable beryl, do I have to select it as my window manager?
[06:08] <unagi> dont use beryl
[06:08] <luical> please help
[06:08] <unagi> just use desktop effects
[06:09] <unagi> did i stump the mighty ubuntu chat?
[06:09] <luical> please help me with my drives issues
[06:09] <logan> I want to add a shortcut to a folder to my desktop, how?
[06:09] <MrElendig> unagi: you killed the channel. YOU BASTARD!
[06:09] <unagi> whatd i do MrElendig
[06:09] <luical> please help
[06:10] <Jordan_U> unagi, awcommon is not an available package, do you know what it is?
[06:10] <unagi> yes its part of the maya package
[06:10] <Jordan_U> unagi, Ahh, that makes perfect sense then
[06:10] <unagi> ?
[06:10] <macogw> logan: right click on the desktop
[06:11] <Kavon89> Are these good instructions to follow to update my ATI drivers? How do I check what version I currently have??  http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide
[06:11] <macogw> logan: and create launcher
[06:11] <Creeture> logan: how 'bout just go to a command line and "ln -s /real/location ~/Desktop/linkname"
[06:11] <Jordan_U> unagi, It needs to be re-installed but apt can't do that because it doesn't know where to get it
[06:11] <macogw> Kavon89: why do you want to update them?
[06:11] <luical> please helppp
[06:11] <mortuis99> i try and run a program in WINE and this is what i get wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\NoClone4.exe": Module not found
[06:11] <r0b-> who said my name
[06:11] <logreeval> How do you add a delay to startup programs in the sessions
[06:11] <Jordan_U> unagi, So find the .deb for it and re-install
[06:11] <logan> I browsed to the folder for command but it wouldnt let me select the folder, only a file
[06:11] <macogw> mortuis99: probably better to ask on #winehq
[06:11] <joebob777as7> can anyone help with a sound problem?
[06:12] <Kavon89> macogw: performance in CS:S under wine is horrid, I think the included driver with fiesty is old... maybe version 8 will help
[06:12] <Jordan_U> logan, try ./whatever
[06:12] <luical> can someone help me with my drives issues pleaseeeeee
[06:12] <unagi> k lemme try that
[06:12] <macogw> Kavon89: someone here is going to ask what sound card you have
[06:12] <macogw> Kavon89: because for some reason sound cards can screw up graphics in games and i dont kow why
[06:12] <Jordan_U> luical, We can't help if you don't actually ask a question
[06:13] <unagi> i get errors when i install it
[06:13] <Kavon89> macogw: thats funny because my sound thing has been causing problems... i posted in the ubuntu forum but no one helped me :/
[06:13] <unagi> how do i get apt-get to not want to reinstall it
[06:13] <zFliPz> hi, someone can help me? im in console on BitchX
[06:13] <luical> i cannot delete files in my second drive, it brings me up a windows saying: it is not the same file system
[06:13] <zFliPz> i just done apt-get install kde
[06:13] <macogw> Kavon89: figure out sound first
[06:13] <xork> anyone got a second to help with those udev rules to help the firewire drives /dev location the same?
[06:13] <zFliPz> and now its done how i start kde?
[06:13] <luical> i dont know what to do
[06:13] <Kavon89> macogw: May I direct you to the post I made in the forum?
[06:13] <Creeture> luical: can you delete them from a shell?
[06:13] <Kavon89> macogw: to help me
[06:13] <macogw> zFliPz: there should be an option on the screen where you log in
[06:14] <luical> what is a shell?
[06:14] <macogw> Kavon89: i cant help
[06:14] <logan> My folder path has a space in the name
[06:14] <xork> i can't seem to come up with a section from udevinfo that has enough identifiable info
[06:14] <Kavon89> ok
[06:14] <macogw> luical: command line
[06:14] <zFliPz> macogw, i dont got options im in console
[06:14] <zFliPz> like [root] :
[06:14] <logan> and it stops at the folder with the space in the name
[06:14] <logan> like
[06:14] <xork> both my firewire drives look the same in udevinfo
[06:14] <macogw> zFliPz: oh then startx
[06:14] <macogw> zFliPz: and go to the login screen
[06:14] <zFliPz> startx dont work
[06:14] <zFliPz> i tryed
[06:14] <macogw> zFliPz: does it give an error?
[06:14] <logan> sda1/documents and settings/, it says cannot find folder "sda`/documents"
[06:14] <zFliPz> it saw /lib/x11 no such directory blabla
[06:14] <Creeture> luical: Ah. Nevermind then. Uh, shift, right click, choose delete. Should bypass the Trash
[06:14] <luical> no, i havent try that, but i need a way to delete my files easily
[06:14] <zFliPz> say*
[06:15] <macogw> zFliPz: do you have X installed?
[06:15] <zFliPz> what dependencies xinit requires?
[06:15] <no_gatez_fan> zFliPz/ whot video card you have>
[06:15] <no_gatez_fan> ?
[06:15] <macogw> luical: rm deletes stuff
[06:15] <zFliPz> i tryed apt-get xinit
[06:15] <youkilldkennedy> Does anyone have a clue as to why Feisty is booting so slow for me?
[06:15] <zFliPz> tells me i got last version installed
[06:15] <zFliPz> i got a nvidia riva tnt2 32megs
[06:15] <macogw> zFliPz: did you just install kde or did you install kubuntu-desktop?
[06:16] <zFliPz> only dke
[06:16] <dr_willis> youkilldkennedy,  disable the splash screen and look/watch what its doing? see if any errors pop up. Check dmesg output also.
[06:16] <zFliPz> kde*
[06:16] <luical> but is there a pblem in my system causing that error?
[06:16] <Justi1> How do I enable beryl?
[06:16] <macogw> zFliPz: try installing kubuntu-desktop then so you have the whole thing
[06:16] <macogw> Justi1: alt + f2
[06:16] <pedro_> primera vez que ingreso
[06:16] <luical> is there something causing it?
[06:16] <Creeture> luical: Let's get it to delete first then we'll figure that out.
[06:16] <macogw> Justi1: type "beryl-manager" with no quotes
[06:16] <zFliPz> so ill type apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[06:16] <zFliPz> ?
[06:16] <youkilldkennedy> dr_willis How do I check dmesg output?
[06:16] <macogw> !es > pedro_
[06:16] <pedro_> si
[06:16] <Justi1> macogw: nothing happened
[06:16] <zFliPz> apt-get install kunbuntu-desktop will work i mean ?
[06:16] <macogw> zFliPz: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:17] <luical> i succeed deleting it with shift delete
[06:17] <macogw> Justi1: did a little gem show up in your panel?
[06:17] <dr_willis> youkilldkennedy,  'dmesg' command :)
[06:17] <Fezzler> macogw: care to take a crack at my crashed gnome issue?  I got wallpaper, Gaim, that's it!
[06:17] <youkilldkennedy> i see
[06:17] <Justi1> macogw: ahh yes
[06:17] <youkilldkennedy> thanks
[06:17] <Creeture> luical: That's good. We now know that we're dealing with a trash problem.
[06:17] <macogw> Fezzler: no idea
[06:17] <pedro_> me la pase instalando ubuntu toda la nche
[06:17] <logan> I am trying to open the folder "media/sd1/Documents and Settings/", but when I run the command it stops at the first space and says cannot find folder "media/sda1/documents", what do I do?
[06:17] <macogw> Justi1: right click it and choose beryl as your wm
[06:17] <luical> and what can i do??
[06:17] <macogw> pedro_: si usted habla espanol, va a #ubuntu-es
[06:18] <kameron> anyone good with dvds, video, etc?
[06:18] <macogw> pedro_: esta channel es solo para ingles
[06:18] <pedro_> desde el terminal
[06:18] <Justi1> macogw: my gui flickers, and then goes back to gnome
[06:18] <joebob777as7> can anyone help with a sound problem?
[06:18] <macogw> Justi1: oh...umm...check wiki.ubuntu.com and see if it says you have to do anything extra
[06:18] <Jordan_U> !sound | joebob777as7
[06:18] <ubotu> joebob777as7: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:18] <macogw> Justi1: and tell me what "glxinfo | grep direct" prints
[06:18] <kameron> i used tovid to create a mpg that's supposedly compliant with standalone dvd players. how do i burn this file? just as data? or do i have to make it a video dvd format or something?
[06:19] <luical> is there a problem with my trash can?
[06:19] <Justi1> macogw: I tried that and it said 'yes'
[06:19] <luical> please help?
[06:19] <macogw> Justi1: ok thats a good sign
[06:19] <Creeture> luical: Yeah. I'm trying to make mine misbehave.
[06:19] <dabaR> The Gargoyle is coming!
[06:19] <macogw> Justi1: try opening a terminal and typing just beryl
[06:19] <Creeture> luical: Have some patience. Some of us have to work here.
[06:19] <macogw> Justi1: see if there's an error maybe
[06:19] <luical> ok, ill wait
[06:19] <logan> I am trying to open the folder "media/sd1/Documents and Settings/", but when I run the command it stops at the first space and says cannot find folder "media/sda1/documents", what do I do?
[06:19] <wmoxam> anyone have any success in getting vimmate to run?
[06:19] <macogw> logan:  put a \ before the space
[06:20] <macogw> logan: you have to escape it
[06:20] <sdouble> kameron: sounds like (s)vcd, just burn it as data and you should be okay
[06:20] <Justi1> macogw: no composite extension?
[06:20] <logan> thanks
[06:20] <Jordan_U> luical, Why do you think that something is wrong with your trash can?
[06:20] <kameron> sdouble, svcd is for CDs, you can't burn them to DVD. SVCD uses 44.1khz audio while dvds use 47khz.
[06:20] <macogw> logan: http://xkcd.com/c234.html :)
[06:20] <macogw> Justi1: check the ubuntu wiki and see what it is you're supposed to add to xorg then
[06:21] <luical> cause i was trying to delete some files in my secondary drive and it brought me an error sayin: it is not the same file system
[06:21] <logan> It still isn't working
[06:21] <logan> Running the command
[06:21] <logan> sda1/Documents\ and\ Settings/Logan/My\ Documents/My\ Music/
[06:22] <sdouble> correct, but mpg that runs on dvd players is generally svcd.  To be honest, I'm not sure of any other format that's mpg
[06:22] <logan> I tried putting media/ infront of that aswell
[06:22] <Creeture> luical: http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=2921315
[06:22] <Creeture> luical: Crap, wrong paste.
[06:22] <Creeture> ignore that
[06:22] <JoshJ> XD
[06:22] <JoshJ> that's a fun thread
[06:22] <JoshJ> :D
[06:22] <Jordan_U> logan, Try tab completion
[06:22] <JoshJ> btw
[06:22] <JoshJ> here's the result of my efforts
[06:22] <JoshJ> and i stopped working from here
[06:22] <JoshJ> http://rafb.net/p/P3ybuE18.html
[06:22] <Creeture> luical: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=309592
[06:22] <logan> tab completion? =(.
[06:22] <Jordan_U> !tab | logan
[06:22] <ubotu> logan: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[06:23] <macogw> logan: you need the /dev/ before sda
[06:23] <macogw> logan: or /media/ ya know..wherever it's mounted...
[06:24] <luical> i dont see anything about my problem there
[06:24] <Justi1> macogw: the wiki doesn't tell me much
[06:24] <luical> or at least, i dont understand
[06:24] <logan> Failed to execute child process "/media/sda1/Documents and Settings/Logan/My Documents/My Music/" (Permission denied)
[06:24] <Creeture> luical: That's exactly your problem. https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-vfs/+bug/26633 is the original reference.
[06:24] <logan> It is an NTFS partition..
[06:24] <changuito> Please; could somebody search for me some public proxys for web browsing working with any port but 80 and 8080. I need them since my gateway port 80 and 8080 died, and it will take a long time since they got them fixed. I would really appreciate if anybody could make me that favor. Thanks.
[06:24] <jamman> logan, pastebin the output of sudo mount -a
[06:25] <Jordan_U> logan, You don't have permission to access the drive.
[06:25] <Jordan_U> logan, How did you mount it?
[06:25] <Creeture> luical: Oh, no wonder it's broken. NTFS is still about as experimental as it gets with write support. ntfs-3g works pretty well, but it's still flaky.
[06:25] <logan> Well I am looking at the folder right now
[06:25] <jamman> logan, with what user?
[06:25] <Jordan_U> Creeture, No, it is perfectly stable
[06:26] <cap> Rhythmbox isn't allowing me to change the artist name on an album. how do I fix this?
[06:26] <Jordan_U> Creeture, And read support has been stable for a long time
[06:26] <logan> sudo mount -a didn't output anything
[06:26] <cescalante> just wanted to come here and confess
[06:26] <Justi1> macogw: the wiki doesn't tell me much
[06:26] <Jordan_U> logan, How did you mount it?
[06:26] <Creeture> Jordan_U: Read support works fine. Try telling my trashed files that write support is perfectly stable. ;)
[06:26] <cescalante> I have sinned, I've tried other linuxes when I should have stayed faithful to ubuntu, I am sorry
[06:26] <jamman> logan, yes, how did you mount t.
[06:26] <macogw> logan, do this in the terminal: ls -l /media
[06:26] <logan> it is the primary hard drive in this computer, it is NTFS and runs windows, it was automatically detected
[06:26] <Jordan_U> Creeture, When did you use ntfs-3g ?
[06:27] <luical> but before i formatted my pc i did not have any problem with ntfs 3g
[06:27] <logan> dr-xr-x---  1 root plugdev 16384 2007-06-29 05:15 sda1
[06:27] <cescalante> all i can say is that dealing with other distros has been punishment enough
[06:27] <macogw> logan: do what i just said and tell us if it's owned by root or your username
[06:27] <luical> so this is too strange for me
[06:27] <macogw> logan: ok thatd be root and that's why
[06:27] <logan> So what do I have to do to make it work?
[06:27] <_Codeman_> How do I list the processes in the console?
[06:27] <logan> File shortcuts are soo much easier in windows >_<
[06:27] <luical> i didnt had that problem deleting
[06:27] <jamman> logan, try sudo chown YOUR_USER_NAME
[06:27] <chohmann> _Codeman_: ps
[06:27] <luical> it work great
[06:28] <_Codeman_> chohmann: thanks
[06:28] <luical> it worked great
[06:28] <Creeture> Jordan_U: last time? about 13 seconds ago. It's only broken because it allows creation of files on an NTFS device that aren't accessible from Windoze. Maybe I should have said it works too well?
[06:28] <Justi1> is there an application that lets me view all hardware components on my system?
[06:28] <Jordan_U> jamman, Won't work on NTFS
[06:28] <bur[n] er> logan: drag/drop using alt modifier
[06:28] <luical> but now it gives me an error
[06:28] <Jordan_U> !ntfs-3g | logan
[06:28] <ubotu> logan: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[06:28] <cescalante> holy frick, nothing comes close to the ease does it?
[06:28] <jamman> Jordan_U, no?
[06:28] <cycom> I heard there was something like Time Machine for ubuntu. What's it called?
[06:28] <cescalante> or if it does the bloat kills you
[06:28] <bur[n] er> cycom: simple backup?
[06:29] <Jordan_U> jamman, AFIK ntfs does not support unix file permissions
[06:29] <cescalante> you want to cry over your keyboard, please try Sabayon
[06:29] <luical> i dont know if there is maybe something wrong in the way it was mounted
[06:29] <cycom> bur[n] er: yeah.
[06:29] <logan> The click + alt thing worked, thanks
[06:29] <jamman> Jordan_U, so how would you go about doing this.
[06:29] <bur[n] er> np
[06:29] <vinneh> anyone in NZ or AUS
[06:29] <vinneh> having issues with apt
[06:29] <vip3rousmango> Anyone know how to install the new wine update??
[06:29] <vinneh> like the repos are stuffed
[06:30] <cescalante> I couldn't even get Zenwalk to boot after install
[06:30] <slicksterr> anyone know how i go about installing my cd-rom drive in ubuntu? my cd-rom drive is listed in "computer", but when i put a cd in, and click on the icon, it says "invalid mount option"
[06:30] <Jordan_U> jamman, Fix his fstab so that he has permission to read it
[06:30] <cescalante> Zen computing my ass
[06:30] <bur[n] er> vip3rousmango: add the winehq.com repos to your sources.list... more info at winehq.com or .org, i forget
[06:30] <luical> can someone tell me plis
[06:30] <jamman> Jordan_U, will do, but he said he got it working.
[06:30] <dr_willis> vinneh,  ive been having some repo issues here in the usa also..  SO may be some servers are having issues.
[06:30] <cescalante> Vector was cool, but seemed sluggish
[06:30] <vip3rousmango> bur[n] er: I'm on the site now, and i get and error when i type their console commands in
[06:30] <cap> Rhythmbox isn't allowing me to change the artist name on an album. how do I fix this?
[06:30] <jamman> logan, what did you do?
[06:30] <cescalante> anyway, glad to be back on Xubuntu
[06:30] <tomd123> cescalante, who are you talking to? is there a ghost :-X
[06:30] <vinneh> :(
[06:30] <luical> now i have to shift delete all the files i want to delete
[06:30] <bur[n] er> cap: file permissions set right?
[06:30] <cescalante> yes
[06:30] <logan> clicked on the folder, pressed and held the alt button, dragged it to my desktop, clicked link to
[06:30] <luical> is there any solution??
[06:31] <macogw> cescalante: you tried to run sabayon on a xubuntu-level computer? are you suicidal?
[06:31] <jamman> logan, and now you can read write?
[06:31] <cescalante> I was just hunting around
[06:31] <logan> I didn't need to write.
[06:31] <luical> please
[06:31] <luical> help
[06:31] <bur[n] er> vip3rousmango: you add the budget dedicated server, run apt-get update and then apt-get install wine
[06:31] <cescalante> trying to find a good fit
[06:31] <logan> I was linking to my music folder =)
[06:31] <jamman> luical, what do you need?
[06:31] <cescalante> didn't realize I already had
[06:31] <dr_willis> luical,  you will have much better luck if you clarify the problem into a single line..  for new people joining.
[06:31] <macogw> jamman: luical cant figure out how to delete stuff
[06:31] <jamman> logan, i see.
[06:31] <cescalante> I love xubuntu
[06:32] <macogw> jamman: says something's busted about trash icon
[06:32] <jamman> luical, whats going on man?
[06:32] <dr_willis> cescalante,  marry it then. :)
[06:32] <vip3rousmango> bur[n] er: when i try to do the wget q- cmd i keep getting pgp: no valid OpenPGP data found
[06:32] <macogw> luical: i wish i could help, but i delete my bottom panel and the trash icon then use rm in the command line for deleting stuff
[06:32] <Jordan_U> Creeture, What do you mean it makes files that windows can't read?
[06:32] <bur[n] er> vip3rousmango: disregard that step then... you don't really 'NEED' the key, but a good idea if it's easily accessible
[06:32] <tomd123> anyone reading The C++ Programming Language (Special 3rd Edition)
[06:33] <dr_willis> bur[n] er,  sure its not  smb:/// and ssh:/// and ftp:/// or was it ////// or was it /  :)
[06:33] <vip3rousmango> bur[n] er: oh, alright then. one sec.. i'll see.
[06:33] <cescalante> bur[n] er:  that is something I hadn't figured out, how do you connect to a remote disk in xubuntu
[06:33] <luical> the problem is that when i try to delete a file in my secondary ntfs drive, it brings up an error saying: it is not the same fyle system. i didnt have that problem before i reinstalled ubuntu
[06:33] <macogw> tomd123: is that supposed to be ripping off the bible?
[06:33] <macogw> boredandblogging: sytem76.com
[06:33] <bur[n] er> !fuse | cescalante
[06:33] <ubotu> cescalante: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[06:33] <luical> the only way i can delete now is by shift delete
[06:33] <BoraBora> macogow: too expensive
[06:33] <bur[n] er> er... it's totally safe
[06:33] <luical> i didnt have that problem before
[06:33] <macogw> boredandblogging: zareason.com ?
[06:33] <slicksterr> so, UDF isn't a recognized filesystem in ubuntu?
[06:33] <bur[n] er> and i meant to say fusesmb
[06:33] <bur[n] er> !info fusesmb
[06:33] <ubotu> fusesmb: filesystem client based on the SMB file transfer protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.5-1 (feisty), package size 26 kB, installed size 140 kB
[06:33] <fastcars_19> >>>>>i have a orinoco usb client gold that i am wondering if will work on ubuntu
[06:33] <Jordan_U> macogw, Dell.com/ubuntu ?
[06:33] <luical> maybe i did something bad while mounting
[06:34] <jamman> luical, and does that not work?
[06:34] <macogw> Jordan_U: its /open
[06:34] <tomd123> macogw, it has been my bible for the past week :-)
[06:34] <macogw> Jordan_U: and for laptops the ubuntu ones are more expensive. i just checked
[06:34] <franky723> hey i'm having problems with fiesty and a toshiba laptop ... randomly usb devices will stop working, and will still show up on lsusb even after unplugged. also wireless networking stops working randomly after a while but restarting the computer temporarily makes it work again
[06:34] <macogw> tomd123: "the bible" means K&R's "The C Programming Language"
[06:34] <Justi1> I am at the dell website getting drivers; for my operating system (ubuntu), should I choose 'linux 8.0' or 'linux 9.0'
[06:34] <Jordan_U> macogw, Same specs?
[06:34] <luical> yeah, shift delete works, but i didnt had to use it before i reinstalled ubuntu
[06:34] <macogw> Jordan_U: identical
[06:34] <bur[n] er> Justi1: neither
[06:34] <Jordan_U> macogw, It's /ubuntu too, I always give that as it's easier to remember :)
[06:34] <macogw> Jordan_U: the windows ones have "free upgrades" and come out $200 cheaper
[06:34] <macogw> Jordan_U: ah didnt know that
[06:34] <bur[n] er> Justi1: what are you tring to get a driver for?
[06:35] <luical> i did not have any problems with my ntfs files
[06:35] <Truman_> Does anyone have experience with apache2, specifically .htaccess?
[06:35] <Justi1> wireless network card
[06:35] <tomd123> macogw, this is definitly better, my God can whip your God any day :)
[06:35] <bur[n] er> macogw: that's FUD
[06:35] <fastcars_19> HELP i have a orinoco usb client gold that i am wondering if will work on ubuntu before i install ubuntu
[06:35] <macogw> Jordan_U: if you pick options that aren't free upgrades, windows is *still* $200 cheaper
[06:35] <bur[n] er> Justi1: broadcom?
[06:35] <macogw> bur[n] er: no it's not. i just did it. the desktops are cheaper with ubuntu. the laptops aren't
[06:35] <bur[n] er> !bcm43xx | Justi1
[06:35] <ubotu> Justi1: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[06:35] <luical> so maybe there is something wrong in my mount
[06:35] <dr_willis> Ive heard that at the DELL site.. it pays to shop around and try the different things.. can find special deals in different sections.
[06:35] <cescalante> good night everyone, I'm going to go to bed and pretend like this night never happened, replace xubuntu HA!
[06:35] <macogw> bur[n] er: one of the laptops is no longer being made (E1505) with windows
[06:35] <luical> what do u think?
[06:35] <Justi1> bur[n] er: no it's a dell brand card
[06:35] <bur[n] er> macogw: aww
[06:36] <macogw> bur[n] er: the other is > $100 cheaper with windows
[06:36] <jamman> hey all, is there an easy way to set up a ubuntu system as NAS (networked attached storage) almost like freeNAS?
[06:36] <bur[n] er> Justi1: run "lspci" at a terminal... and see if you see bcm43 something
[06:36] <MrElendig> dr_willis: you get alot better prices onver the phone than on the web with dell
[06:36] <MrElendig> atleast in norway
[06:36] <macogw> bur[n] er: between $100 and $200....i didnt read the last 2 digits :p just the 19 and 17
[06:36] <MrElendig> over*
[06:36] <fastcars_19> anyone???
[06:36] <n2diy> fastcars_19: orinco (lucent) gold and silver cards are well supported in linux.
[06:36] <jamman> luical, well, i think you do not have ntfs-3g installed, or if you do, you do not have you file permissions set right.
[06:36] <bur[n] er> Justi1: chances are it is the broadcom wireless chipset... to be made easier with the release of gutsy, but for now, follow that wiki link
[06:37] <dr_willis> MrElendig,  thats even scarier.. there was a web site/wiki that detailed how to get the best from dell.. not thati plan on buying anything from dell
[06:37] <fastcars_19> ok i was just wondering the forum had a mix of answer
[06:37] <sn0w> what all do i need to install to get bluetooth to work in gnome, I have installed the packages I thought would be necessary , I can pair the phone and computer, but any file transfers fail
[06:37] <macogw> bur[n] er: $ using the "free upgrades" options on windows its $824 and the identical ubuntu is $1049
[06:38] <luical> i have file permission, and ntfs 3g working well, i can write in my drive, the only problem is that an error pops up trying to delete, and i always have to shift delete
[06:38] <macogw> bur[n] er: picking things that arent the free upgrade options gets ubuntu in the $1900s and windows in the $1700s
[06:38] <bur[n] er> crazy, i'd blog about it, get dugg, and then get dell to change their ways ;)
[06:38] <bur[n] er> or leave comments on the direct2dell blog
[06:38] <_Codeman_> I need to restart xserver but I don't see it's pid, is there another way to restart besides kill and startx?
[06:38] <vinneh> lets all buy shares in vmware
[06:38] <macogw> bur[n] er: i looked into it today because it's being discussed on ubuntuforums.org
[06:38] <jamman> luical, try going to the directory andd i beleive you need to make a .Trash direcotory.
[06:38] <bur[n] er> _Codeman_: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[06:38] <n2diy> fastcars_19: have played with one yet, but I did pick up a orinco silver card, with the intentions of running it on my Thinkpad, but the pcmcia bus on the TP isn't working, so I didn't get any further with it.
[06:38] <MrElendig> anyway, you can always get the cost of teh windows back from MS if you don't want it too
[06:39] <Justi1> bur[n] er: when I used the wireless card in windows, it was displayed as a dell, and I used a dell driver for it
[06:39] <chohmann> _Codeman_: ctrl+alt+backspae
[06:39] <n2diy> have/haven't
[06:39] <bur[n] er> luical: or change the permissions on the current .Trash to allow your username to write to it
[06:39] <bur[n] er> Justi1: did you run "lspci" from a terminal and find out?
[06:40] <Justi1> bur[n] er: it lists my ethernet card as broadcom, but doesn't mention the wireless one
[06:40] <Hausberg> Is there a known issue with mplayer and ac3 in edgy?
[06:40] <franky723> help - i have a toshiba laptop on a wireless network and after a few minutes of use the connection stops working (although the computer still thinks its connected). after rebooting the network works again until a few minutes have passed when it goes down again. help?
[06:40] <bur[n] er> Justi1: you sure, it must reference it
[06:40] <vip3rousmango> bur[n] er: ah its downloading and updating now, thanks.
[06:40] <jamman> hey all, is there an easy way to set up a ubuntu system as NAS (networked attached storage) almost like freeNAS?
[06:41] <luical> and where is the trash directory?
[06:41] <Justi1> bur[n] er: 0b:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Unknown device 4328 (rev 01)
[06:41] <cap> Rhythmbox isn't allowing me to change the artist name on an album. how do I fix this?
[06:41] <vip3rousmango> .trash
[06:41] <Justi1> bur[n] er: is that it?
[06:41] <jamman> luical, the current directory.
[06:41] <luical> and how do i get there?
[06:42] <kelvin> un canal en espaol por favor
[06:42] <n2diy> franky723: and Ubuntu is running on the laptop?
[06:42] <bur[n] er_> Justi1: in any event... i really do bet it's a broadcom... try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty and use method 1.3.1
[06:42] <Jordan_U> Justi1, If you have a broadcom card just install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[06:42] <regeya> jamman: depends on your definition of 'nas'.  if you just want smb filesharing, it's stupid simple on ubuntu (though I don't remember the gnome-friendly procedure in ubuntu proper)
[06:42] <macogw> bur[n] er: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2994463&postcount=57
[06:42] <franky723> n2diy: fiesty is.
[06:42] <luical> i try to change permission of trash can thru desktop, but cant do it
[06:42] <arooni> hey folks!
[06:42] <macogw> kelvin: si usted habla espanol, va a #ubuntu-es
[06:42] <Godchaser> how do you creat your own settings/animations for beryl? anyone know?
[06:42] <chohmann> kelvin: !es
[06:42] <kelvin> alguien k me ayude
[06:43] <Godchaser> how do you creat your own settings/animations for beryl? anyone know?
[06:43] <bur[n] er_> Justi1: that's definitely the place to get your wireless working
[06:43] <franky723> n2diy: it's a toshiba satellite if that helps ...
[06:43] <macogw> Jordan_U: not always true!
[06:43] <regeya> jamman: but keep in mind ubuntu is a DESKTOP distribution primarily ;-)
[06:43] <chohmann> !es | kelvin
[06:43] <ubotu> kelvin: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:43] <arooni> do i need to get a 64bit version of ubuntu if i have this processor: SBB INTEL CORE 2 DUO
[06:43] <bur[n] er_> Godchaser: check out hte compiz website
[06:43] <arooni> ?
[06:43] <macogw> Jordan_U: if you have the broadcom 1390 you the bcm43xx wont work
[06:43] <Hitomaro> Godchaser: bravo for the sick nick. :)
[06:43] <Sonicadvance1> you never "need" a 64bit OS
[06:43] <regeya> if you need freenas capabilities I suggest using freenas
[06:43] <n2diy> franky723: ok, good. First lesson, loose the idea that you have to reboot. That is a windows fix, not a linux one. Do you have a terminal open?
[06:43] <Sonicadvance1> you can run 32bit fine
[06:43] <Jordan_U> macogw, Yes but it can't do anything bad, so it never hurts to try it first
[06:43] <joebob777as7> I still can't get my sound working... alsamixer works fine and it sees my sound card....
[06:43] <Sonicadvance1> lose*
[06:43] <regeya> 640kb of ram should be enough for anyone
[06:43] <arooni> Sonicadvance1: right but does that processor support it?
[06:43] <witless> is there a way to do a read/write surface test of a logical volume?
[06:43] <franky723> n2diy: yes
[06:43] <Sonicadvance1> yes
[06:43] <macogw> Jordan_U: uh wrong
[06:43] <jamman> regeya, this is true. i think ill just go with this freeNAS. i need scsi raid support, etc. want to make a back up machine for 10+ coputers.
[06:43] <Sonicadvance1> It does support it
[06:44] <Hitomaro> hey bur[n] ner
[06:44] <macogw> Jordan_U: the howto for that card says to apt-get remove --purge bcm43xx-fwcutter and then blacklist that module
[06:44] <luical> i dont know where is the .trash directory or file?
[06:44] <arooni> Sonicadvance1: so is it better to run a 32 bit or 64 version of ubuntu w/ that processor
[06:44] <luical> please help
[06:44] <n2diy> franky723: ok, does ifconfig show your wireless card?
[06:44] <Jordan_U> macogw, What problems could having some .fw files in /lib/firmware
[06:44] <dr_willis> luical,  i would use the 'locate' command to find them :)
[06:44] <Godnonbeliever> luical: in your ~/ or home directory as it's known
[06:44] <Godnonbeliever> franky723: better yet, iwconfig
[06:44] <Fezzler> Jordan, Joshj, Creeture, All.  I fixed it after three nights working on it
[06:44] <franky723> n2diy: yes
[06:44] <macogw> Jordan_U: then you have to build a new version of ndiswrapper from source, unzip the the windows drivers, and use those cuz that's how the dell broadcom 1390 goes
[06:44] <Sonicadvance1> I'm not quite sure myself, I tried running a 64bit Ubuntu on mine, wine was being a pain to install so I went back to 32bit
[06:44] <Jordan_U> macogw, That howto is paranoid, blacklisting is all that is needed
[06:45] <regeya> jamman: otoh I use a g4 machine running ubuntu dapper as a fileserver...setting up netatalk was a *bit* more difficult than it really should have been, but it wasn't *that* hard...if you're determined to use a more generic OS, you'll just need to do your homework.
[06:45] <jamman> OH! guess what all... i just set up my very own production server last night.
[06:45] <n2diy> franky723: can you ping it?
[06:45] <arooni> Sonicadvance1: how much performance gain do you get from 64 bit?
[06:45] <macogw> Jordan_U: oh ok well i did what it says because i didnt want to screw up my friend's laptop
[06:45] <Fezzler> I came across this in Google after searching from Ubuntu gnome-panel crash
[06:45] <Hitomaro> Godnonbeliever: why did you change your nick? lol
[06:45] <Fezzler> I thought I'd pass it along.
[06:45] <jamman> regeya, windows, so samba is easiest, but i should get ftp, nfs, etc.
[06:46] <joebob777as7> I still can't get my sound working... alsamixer works fine and it sees my sound card....
[06:46] <Jordan_U> macogw, Literally all that fwcutter does is put firmware files in /lib/firmware, if you use ndiswrapper ( or a different card / driver or anything ) they simply won't be used
[06:46] <jamman> joebob777as7, what card?
[06:46] <macogw> tomd123: what machine god would that be?
[06:46] <Fezzler> I ran "rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd ,metacity
[06:46] <macogw> Jordan_U: oh ok
[06:46] <Jordan_U> macogw, What howto said that you needed to get rid of fwcutter?
[06:46] <franky723> n2diy: ugh. everything just froze. hold on.
[06:46] <Fezzler> then I had to delete a file /tmp/xorg.log
[06:47] <macogw> Jordan_U: the dell broadcom 1390 one. it was either on the wiki or ubuntuforums...i think wiki
[06:47] <screenname92834> hi folks
[06:47] <jamman> hey, what program checks for security on a server/network?
[06:47] <macogw> bur[n] er: did you check that link?
[06:47] <macogw> bur[n] er: it's the post where i put screenshots of the price differences
[06:47] <Fezzler> I then rebooted.  All my Gnome settings were gone and replace with Ubuntu defaults, but I've just reset them (Mac OS X lookalike)
[06:48] <Sonicadvance1> I don't think you would get much arooni
[06:48] <Fezzler> I'm good to go.  I love Linux!  Man, that command line kernal NEVER gave up on me!
[06:48] <Jordan_U> macogw, I am cleaning up the one on wiki.ubuntu.com now, there is a lot of stuff that no longer applies in Feisty
[06:48] <n2diy> franky723: does the computer freeze happen with the network failure?
[06:48] <Fezzler> Thanks for the help people!
[06:48] <joebob777as7> jamman, Intel [HDA Intel] , device 1: AD198x Digital [AD198x Digital] 
[06:48] <arooni> Sonicadvance1: sounds like 32 bit version is advised if i want minimum headaches
[06:48] <Sonicadvance1> Yes
[06:48] <luical> i dont have any .trash in my home directory
[06:49] <jamman> nvm, i found nessus, the one i was looking for.
[06:49] <joebob777as7> jamman, Intel [HDA Intel] , device 0: AD198x Analog [AD198x Analog] 
[06:49] <macogw> luical: how are you looking for it?
[06:49] <bruenig> luical, .Trash
[06:49] <jamman> joebob777as7, that would be your problem.
[06:49] <macogw> luical: if command line, make sure you ls -a
[06:49] <franky723> n2diy: it happens from time to time. i'll lose usb devices too randomly - they will still show up on lsusb but wont function
[06:49] <macogw> luical: if in the file manager, make sure "show hidden folders" is enabled
[06:49] <joebob777as7> jamman, ok so how do i fix it?
[06:49] <jamman> joebob777as7, can you compile/make software yourself?
[06:50] <franky723> n2diy: okay ifconfig says its "ath0" and its connected right now and everything and im browsing the web on it ...
[06:50] <n2diy> franky723: umm, ok. is the box up again, and the network connection working?
[06:50] <sixvoltsystem> hello room
[06:50] <joebob777as7> jamman, uhhh... maybe lol
[06:50] <joebob777as7> what do i need to do?
[06:50] <Fezzler> So, remember, if gnome-panel crashes and disappears often, delete all the gnome setting files in your /home dir
[06:50] <n2diy> franky723: ok, note what ip address ath0 is currently using.
[06:51] <franky723> n2diy: 192.168.0.2
[06:51] <n2diy> franky723: ok, write it down, we may need it later.
[06:52] <solstice`> i have a question about Gaim that I couldn't find on the help site
[06:52] <solstice`> is there a way to delete used away messages :/
[06:52] <regeya> o_O
[06:52] <Truman_> Does anyone have any experience with apache?  I'm having some trouble adding auth.. I put this http://pastebin.ca/612039 in the folder that I wish to password protect (/var/www/web/), and I have a .htpasswd file in there with my username and password spelled out, and I've been lead to believe that that's all I should need to do .. can someone take a look and help me out when they have a moment?
[06:52] <luical> im still having the same problem deleting files
[06:52] <franky723> n2diy: ifconfig > aaa.txt. well i can probably get the network to stop working by using synaptic or something, not sure why, but that usually does it
[06:53] <w116tjb> You mean that temporary away messages?
[06:53] <joebob777as7> jamman, i know how to do some stuff just haven't been in linux too long...
[06:53] <solstice`> yes
[06:53] <luical> it always pops up an error windows when i try to delete a file
[06:53] <luical> please help
[06:53] <franky723> n2diy: oh nevermind. it already stopped working.
[06:53] <w116tjb> The only way to get rid of them, that I know of, is to make new away messages to push them out.
[06:53] <n2diy> franky723: ???? We don't need that.
[06:53] <jamman> joebob777as7, well, you basically need to use oss drivers and not alsa. i have tried to use the alsa and i have failed miserably. check out ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=239995
[06:54] <n2diy> franky723: ok, stop, don't do anything.
[06:54] <tomd123> solstice, try getting the newer version called pidgin, although that probably won't fix your problem :L
[06:54] <w116tjb> Pidgin isn't in the repositories yet.
[06:54] <n2diy> franky723: ok, does ifconfig show your wireless card now?
[06:54] <franky723> n2diy: yes
[06:54] <_6StringKng_> ah, I got pidgin for windows, pretty cool
[06:54] <macogw> solstice`: it just shows the last 3 or so
[06:54] <n2diy> franky723: ok, can you ping it?
[06:54] <solstice`> used pidgin on fedora, it's alright i guess
[06:55] <_6StringKng_> and is anyone running amarok in gnome?
[06:55] <w116tjb> Amarok always freezes on me... I gave up on it.
[06:55] <_6StringKng_> yeah, I was wondering if there would be any problems running it in gnome or not
[06:55] <franky723> n2diy: i can ping 192.168.0.2, but that's me ... i cant ping 192.168.0.1 and i know that's my router/gateway/whatever
[06:55] <w116tjb> It doesn't work for me... That's not to say it won't work for you thouhg.
[06:55] <w116tjb> *though
[06:56] <_6StringKng_> yeah
[06:56] <Alives> why do my ide drives that are connected to a pre-sata mobo show up as /dev/sd ?
[06:56] <franky723> n2diy: ping 192.168.0.1 it says destination host unreachable
[06:56] <bruenig> why not
[06:56] <_6StringKng_> but I'm happy with rhythmbox at the moment
[06:56] <jamman> joebob777as7, that help at all?
[06:57] <joebob777as7> jamman, thee is a lot to look through. i'm still reading it all... it's a huge rabbit hole
[06:57] <n2diy> franky723: ok, good. bring the card down, and up again, with ifdown ath0, and then ifup ath0, does that seem to respond normally, and then can you ping the router?
[06:57] <Bree> Hi. Anyone care to help me with graphics/video lame things?
[06:57] <Alives> Bree: if they care to help, they will answer the question you ask
[06:57] <Alives> NEVER ask to ask a question
[06:57] <Alives> remember that
[06:57] <franky723> n2diy: sudo ifdown ath0 says interface ath0 not configured.
[06:58] <jamman> joebob777as7, yes, yes indeed. i have tried most of the beginning pages, but it seems like there are a lot more pages now.
[06:58] <franky723> n2diy: yet ath0 still shows up on ifconfig just like it did before.
[06:58] <jamman> A LOT!!
[06:58] <joebob777as7> jamman, yeah that's for sure
[06:58] <sixvoltsystem> will I still have to setup smb to access a windows share file?
[06:58] <n2diy> franky723: with the same ip address?
[06:58] <Bree> I attempt to use VLC or whatever else I have to watch videos and it all gives me a black screen. And occasionally if I move and resize the window, itll let me watch and then randomly give out.
[06:58] <Bree> It was fine before, and I dont know what changed. But its been like that for about a week.
[06:58] <Bree> Anyone know what I can do to fix it?
[06:59] <sixvoltsystem> sounds like a codec problem???
[06:59] <n2diy> franky723: and now that the card is down, can you still ping it?
[06:59] <_6StringKng_> and the audio quality isn't that great either when changing volume within VLC
[06:59] <franky723> n2diy: yes. and i just found something ... on the network admin gnome app it just switched to "lo" as the primary network interface? ath0 is still an option though.
[06:59] <RudyValencia> Hi
[06:59] <franky723> n2diy: still cant ping 192.168.0.1
[07:00] <n2diy> franky723: I thought the router was .01, and the card was .02?
[07:00] <RudyValencia> I'm compiling a package which needs OpenSSL libraries (an IRCd), what package(s) do I need for that, and if they are already installed, where do I point the ./configure to?
[07:00] <Bree> sixvoltsystem: Even if it worked fine before?
[07:00] <franky723> n2diy: yes thats correct. i can ping 02, i cannot ping 01
[07:00] <macogw> franky723:  if you do ifconfig whats your ip
[07:00] <Jordan_U> RudyValencia, Have you tried apt-get build-dep ?
[07:01] <Bree> And still lets me watch it if I move and resize it?
[07:01] <franky723> macogw: 192.168.0.1
[07:01] <franky723> macogw: typo
[07:01] <RudyValencia> apt-get install build-dep?
[07:01] <franky723> macogw: .0.2
[07:01] <macogw> franky723: cuz some routers do 192.168.1.1 and some do 192.168.0.1
[07:01] <Jordan_U> Bree, Using desktop effects?
[07:01] <_6StringKng_> yeah mine is 1.1
[07:01] <macogw> franky723: oh ok nevermind
[07:01] <n2diy> franky723: Ok, thought I was going nuts! :) So the question is, why is the system switching the interface to lo, from ath0?!?
[07:01] <Bree> Im not even sure, Jordan_U.
[07:01] <macogw> _6StringKng_: linksys?
[07:01] <Bree> Mind telling me how to turn them off?
[07:01] <sixvoltsystem> I had that happen to me before, I think all I did to fix it was reinstall my media playing app in synoptic
[07:01] <Jordan_U> Bree, Do you have compiz or beryl installed?
[07:01] <_6StringKng_> no, its built into the modem, got form isp
[07:02] <sixvoltsystem> I didn't use vlc I used something else like mplayer
[07:02] <macogw> Br4tpf4nne: are your windows wobbly?
[07:02] <_6StringKng_> but my switch is linksys
[07:02] <Bree> Not that Im aware of, Jordan_U
[07:02] <n2diy> franky723: Is ath0 selected as the default interface?
[07:02] <macogw> _6StringKng_: do switches act like routers?
[07:02] <Br4tpf4nne> macogw: ?
[07:02] <Jordan_U> RudyValencia, apt-get build-dep <package> installs all of that package's dependencies
[07:02] <franky723> n2diy: it wasnt so i switched it back
[07:02] <RudyValencia> oh
[07:02] <_6StringKng_> uh, there' some differences but for the most part no
[07:03] <RudyValencia> Jordan_U: I'm not building OpenSSL, I'm building a program that can use OpenSSL (hybrid IRCd)
[07:03] <n2diy> franky723: Is ath0 selected as the default interface? There may be a check box or something to "fix" it as the default?
[07:03] <macogw> Br4tpf4nne: oh whoops
[07:03] <macogw> Br4tpf4nne: that was for bree
[07:03] <franky723> n2diy: okay now i switched it back and the little applet on the panel bar says that its connected
[07:03] <Bree> Er
[07:03] <Jordan_U> RudyValencia, Ahh, sorry
[07:04] <Bree> Oh. yeah, I think so. macogw
[07:04] <franky723> n2diy: and in network admin theres some checkboxes that are greyed out because i am in "roaming mode"
[07:04] <macogw> Bree:  wobbly windows = desktop effects
[07:04] <n2diy> franky723: And you can ping the router, surf, etc...?
[07:04] <Bree> And to turn them off I would go into?
[07:04] <Br4tpf4nne> Bree no they doesnt
[07:04] <franky723> n2diy: no :(
[07:04] <Jordan_U> RudyValencia, hybrid ircd is available in the repos, why are you compiling from source?
[07:04] <macogw> Bree: is there a gem on your panel?
[07:04] <Bree> Nope
[07:04] <RudyValencia> Jordan_U: Is it v7.x?
[07:04] <n2diy> franky723: But you can still ping the card?
[07:05] <macogw> Bree: system > preferences > desktop effects
[07:05] <franky723> n2diy: yes
[07:05] <Bree> Awesome. Thankies
[07:05] <Jordan_U> RudyValencia, I don't know, if it's not then you can still use build-dep
[07:05] <_6StringKng_> whats it mean when it says composite extension not available when you try to start desktop effects?
[07:05] <n2diy> franky723: Ok, are you roaming, or can we disable that?
[07:05] <franky723> n2diy: i disabled it
[07:06] <franky723> n2diy: but now theres boxes where i would normally fill out my network password and all that
[07:06] <Bree> Aww.Yay
[07:06] <Jordan_U> RudyValencia, Yes it is in fact
[07:06] <Bree> Thanks bunches again. Its all working now. :D
[07:06] <n2diy> franky723: Ok, restart the ath0, and deal with the login password stuff.
[07:06] <Bree> Cna anyone teach me how to mount a partition?
[07:06] <franky723> n2diy: and there's a dropdown list for network name, and normally i would select the name of my router, but the dropdown list is empty ...
[07:07] <RudyValencia> Jordan_U: Actually, I was wanting to use anope with it, but anope isn't in the repository afaik
[07:07] <_6StringKng_> I don't get this, ask.com said this about switches and hubs....
[07:07] <_6StringKng_> In contrast, neither hubs nor switches are capable of joining multiple networks or sharing an Internet connection
[07:07] <macogw> Bree: aside from double clicking it in places > computer?
[07:07] <_6StringKng_> I share a net connection with my switch....
[07:07] <Bree> I was attempting to make a ntfs partion writable, going off of what someone else told me to. And apparently unmounted it. And now I cant find it at all.
[07:07] <Bree> Its not in there, macogw
[07:07] <ferronica_> how to find HDD space remaining ?
[07:07] <Jordan_U> RudyValencia, So what you are actually trying to do is install anope?
[07:08] <RudyValencia> Jordan_U: Allow me to rephrase.
[07:08] <n2diy> franky723: Ok, I have little experience from here on out. But I suspect roaming is our issue?
[07:08] <franky723> n2diy: like, on the first boot, i went in to network admin, clicked properties for ath0, unchcked roam mode, clicked network name and saw a list of wireless networks, chose mine, and entered the passwords, clicked okay, then everything worked. except now the dropdown list is empty
[07:08] <macogw> Bree: dont suppose you know its /dev do you?
[07:08] <franky723> n2diy: yes
[07:08] <Bree> Yeah. /dev/sda1
[07:08] <doyley> so im trying to burn a vcd from an iso file using kb3 but it doesntplay on my dvd player , i have to use devede . is there a quicker way??
[07:08] <ferronica_> how to find HDD space remaining ?
[07:08] <RudyValencia> Jordan_U: I'm setting up a test server for a new IRC net, we've decided on hybrid w/ anope
[07:08] <screenname92834> sorry, folks, someone just unplugged my internet connection
[07:09] <macogw> Bree: ok then "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/drive"
[07:09] <screenname92834> anyway, what are all these users like 'gdm' and 'mail' doing?
[07:09] <Bree> macogw: "mount: mount point /media/drive does not exist"
[07:09] <macogw> ferronica_: the disk manager in applications > accessories can tell ya
[07:09] <n2diy> franky723: You may have to configure an other connection for your card, fixed to your router?
[07:09] <RudyValencia> Jordan_U: I'm trying to compile hybrid with ssl support and it needs openssl libraries, not sure what the openssl libraries are in ubuntu's packages (I know in fedora it's openssl-dev)
[07:09] <macogw> Bree: oh do "sudo mkdir /media/drive" first then
[07:10] <Masticore> I have removed Ubuntu from Windows, but when I restart my computer I have a feeling that it loads GRUB and I get an error and im fucked. How can I fix this?
[07:10] <franky723> n2diy: i dont understand?
[07:10] <macogw> !ohmy | Masticore
[07:10] <ubotu> Masticore: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:10] <ferronica_> macogw: you mean Disk Usage Analyzer ??
[07:10] <Bree> A need to restart, macogw?
[07:10] <macogw> ferronica_: yeah that
[07:10] <someone2005> any easy way to set the roots permission of a folder to write ?
[07:10] <macogw> Bree: no
[07:10] <ferronica_> macogw: okay thanx
[07:10] <n2diy> franky723: You should be able to open your connection manager, and "add" another connection?
[07:11] <Frogzoo> ferret: df -h
[07:11] <Frogzoo> ferronica: df -h
[07:11] <Bree> Am I supposed to do something else, then, macogw? Because that didnt give me anything
[07:11] <sixvoltsystem>  I think its a bug for the in browser plugin for vlc
[07:11] <Jordan_U> RudyValencia, packagename-dev is the convention in debian also, but again, instead of going dependency by dependency why not just use build-dep?
[07:11] <macogw> Bree: "sudo mkdir /media/drive" then "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/drive"
[07:11] <Frogzoo> too many nicks in here...
[07:11] <macogw> Bree: do both of them
[07:11] <franky723> n2diy: hmm no option for "adding" ...
[07:11] <Bree> I did
[07:11] <macogw> Bree: in that order
[07:11] <screenname92834> >:o
[07:11] <Bree> I did
[07:11] <macogw> Bree: your windows stuff should be in /media/drive then
[07:11] <Masticore> macogw?
[07:12] <macogw> Masticore: ?
[07:12] <Masticore> -07:10:13- (macogw) !ohmy | Masticore
[07:12] <macogw> Masticore: read what ubotu said to that
[07:12] <Masticore> I did
[07:12] <Bree> There isnt anything in there, macogw
[07:12] <macogw> Masticore: ok then..
[07:12] <macogw> Bree: :-/ shouldve mounted...
[07:12] <Frogzoo> Masticore: google for 'windows restore mbr'
[07:12] <Bree> Nothing in the sda1 file, either
[07:12] <n2diy> franky723: Ok, I'm on Dapper, so I don't know if I can help further. But i think you want to stop roaming for now, and tell ifconfig to only talk to your router?
[07:12] <RudyValencia> Jordan_U: I tried apt-get build-dep openssl, I saw packages related to making .deb packages, not anything related to openssl
[07:12] <Bree> Which, there is a folder for that
[07:12] <macogw> Bree: whats just plain "mount" say
[07:13] <macogw> Masticore: put in yoru windows disk and type "fixmbr" at its command line
[07:13] <Masticore> macogw, in what way will that respond from ubotu help me?
[07:13] <Frogzoo> macogw: that works for 98 - by xp?
[07:13] <Bree> In the terminal, aye, macogw? Want me to PM you with it?
[07:13] <franky723> n2diy: im going to try rebooting and see if i can uncheck roaming while i'm still connected ...
[07:13] <macogw> Masticore: you said the f word
[07:13] <screenname92834> folks, where does one install a new package so that all users can access it?
[07:13] <n2diy> franky723: Or, maybe it is iwconfig?
[07:13] <calm> noob question: which package(s) should i install in synaptic to get latex and pdflatex?
[07:13] <macogw> Frogzoo: i think so...
[07:13] <Jordan_U> RudyValencia, No, apt-get build-dep ircd-hybrid
[07:13] <Masticore> oh
[07:13] <macogw> Bree: sure
[07:13] <Frogzoo> macogw: I think not..
[07:13] <macogw> Frogzoo: oh
[07:13] <macogw> Frogzoo: when did it quit working?
[07:14] <n2diy> franky723: Ok, I'm hanging out for a while, GL.
[07:14] <macogw> Frogzoo: thats the directions ive always seen
[07:14] <someone2005> yea..
[07:14] <joebob777as7> jamman
[07:14] <macogw> calm: i think the ubuntu repos have tetex instead f latex
[07:14] <franky723> n2diy: well thanks for your help. by the way are you familiar with the problem of usb devices randomly stop working? and lsusb still says they are connected?
[07:14] <RudyValencia> Jordan_U: ok, none of the packages mentioned by build-dep ircd-hybrid appear to be realted to openssl
[07:14] <Bree> ..
[07:14] <Bree1> .. taht so just spammed me because Im not a registered user. One second
[07:14] <macogw> Bree1: hah
[07:15] <macogw> Bree1: or pastebin it
[07:15] <franky723> n2diy: hmm .. i remember i used breezy on this laptop before ... didn't have any of the network problems :S
[07:15] <screenname92834> HOW DO YOU get to be a registered user?
[07:15] <macogw> !register | screenname92834
[07:15] <ubotu> screenname92834: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[07:15] <calm> macogw: ok, cool.
[07:15] <Frogzoo> macogw: oh 'fdisk /mbr for 98' & 'fixmbr' for xp
[07:15] <n2diy> franky723: No, I'm not, but I've "heard" it could be a hotplug issue with USB devices.
[07:15] <macogw> Frogzoo: oh...who still uses 98? :p
[07:15] <Frogzoo> screenname92834: /msg nickserv help
[07:15] <sixvoltsystem> bree if you go into firefox (I assume you use it) edit, preferences, then content tab, then files types ( hit the manage button)
[07:16] <Frogzoo> macogw: or xp ?
[07:16] <sixvoltsystem> you can set the defaults on most of the media played through the browser
[07:16] <Jordan_U> RudyValencia, Oh, my bad of course it wouldn't since the one in the repos doesn't use it. Then yes, you want libssl-dev
[07:16] <RudyValencia> ah
[07:16] <RudyValencia> thx
[07:16] <Bree1> :P Thats not what I needed, but, thank you, sixvoltsystem. That part has been fixed.
[07:16] <n2diy> franky723: That is good to remember, if we can't solve the problem here, hopefully a google search will give up some clues.
[07:16] <Bree1> macogw: I sent it. Did you get it?
[07:16] <Bree1> Oh
[07:16] <Jordan_U> RudyValencia, np, sorry for the confusion :)
[07:16] <Bree1> .. sorry
[07:16] <macogw> Bree1: ye
[07:16] <macogw> Bree1: yes
[07:16] <RudyValencia> yeah, I tried openssl-dev and that didn't work, hehe
[07:17] <macogw> Frogzoo: fixmbr for xp ...why are you going "or xp?"
[07:17] <Frogzoo> macogw: nvm
[07:17] <insomniac190> is it possible to connect a router to an internet connection using only an rj-45 cord?
[07:17] <macogw> Frogzoo: its apparently only in the nt-based windowses
[07:18] <macogw> insomniac190: uh what?
[07:18] <macogw> insomniac190: you need the rj 45 betwen comp and router, and between router and modem
[07:18] <Frogzoo> insomniac190: entirely depends on what you have
[07:18] <danl> I have two machines both running feisty, what would be the easiest way to make the second machine identical to the first. Including files, settings, and installed packages... knowing that the two machines have different hardware
[07:18] <RudyValencia> Jordan_U: thank you
[07:19] <SurfnKid> hi guys
[07:19] <SurfnKid> how is everyone doing?
[07:19] <Jordan_U> RudyValencia, np
[07:19] <caveman> whe updating is there a lot that can go wrong
[07:19] <hatredx> on my way to sig 15
[07:19] <danl> i tried the simple backup utility, but that just didn't cut it
[07:19] <EADG_> insomniac190: dsl or cable co-ax to rj-45, no, not that I'm aware of.
[07:19] <macogw> danl: coy your . files from the home drive of one to the other
[07:19] <insomniac190> i am going to college in august, and they don't have wifi in the rooms.  and i want to have wifi for my laptop with feisty.  but they only give you a wall jack with an rj-45 cable.
[07:19] <macogw> danl: s/coy/copy
[07:19] <hatredx> wireless is bad
[07:20] <danl> macogw didn't even think of that
[07:20] <danl> thanks
[07:20] <Jordan_U> danl, Use dpkg --get-selections and set selections and copy over the home folder for the prefs
[07:20] <macogw> danl: thatll get your person settings
[07:20] <Frogzoo> insomniac190: openwrt & an AP will do it
[07:20] <Frogzoo> insomniac190: or any AP in truth
[07:20] <macogw> danl: other than that, if you have your synaptic set to keep debs after installing (default setting) they're all in /var/cache/apt/
[07:21] <Jordan_U> !cloning | danl
[07:21] <ubotu> danl: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[07:21] <Creeture> insomniac190: I bought myself a little $30 wireless ap/router that's small enough to fit in my laptop bag. Stupid easy.
[07:21] <Frogzoo> insomniac190: or an ubuntu pc with a wifi card
[07:21] <caveman> how hard is it to upgrade from breezy to feisty
[07:22] <Frogzoo> caveman: better to clean install
[07:22] <caveman> ok
[07:22] <Frogzoo> caveman: just be sure to back up your data first
[07:22] <caveman> then i should order the cd then
[07:22] <caveman> im new to linux so im totally lost
[07:22] <SurfnKid> does anyone have any idea if a version of ubuntu will work with the eee pc?
[07:22] <Arch-away> i need to rename xorf.conf.backup to xorg.conf , whats the easiest way ?
[07:23] <Creeture> caveman: breezy -> edgy -> feisty is the only real upgrade path. Don't you have a CD burner?
[07:23] <insomniac190> Creeture: this lets you use the internet connection wirelessly on your laptop and any other devices?
[07:23] <caveman> yes i do
[07:23] <Creeture> insomniac190: Well yeah, that's what it's for.
[07:23] <darwin81> Ubuntu won't detect my Ethernet port.
[07:23] <Creeture> caveman: Go download the .iso and burn it to CD. Save yourself waiting on the mail.
[07:23] <Frogzoo> darwin81: what kind of network card is it?
[07:23] <EADG_> Arch-away: in a term type sudo mv xorg.conf.backup xorg.conf
[07:24] <caveman> ok then is it easy to install
[07:24] <Arch-away> thanks!
[07:24] <Creeture> caveman: So easy, even a caveman could do it.
[07:24] <darwin81> Frogzoo, It's built into the mobo
[07:24] <caveman> lmao
[07:24] <insomniac190> Creeture: awesome, I need something that my wii could be able to go through as well.  would any ap work?  or do you have any recommendations?
[07:24] <Frogzoo> darwin81: sudo lspci will give you a clue
[07:24] <caveman> thanks i feel a little better
[07:24] <caveman> just frusterated
[07:25] <caveman> thank you creeture
[07:25] <Kavon89> Can you guys tell me what command gives a good general computer specification to give to others? Windows has ' dxdiag ', what do I do for Ubuntu?
[07:25] <Creeture> insomniac190: Those things change every 15 minutes. Go out to newegg.com or somewhere and read some reviews. I'm currently using a little WRT54GC by Linksys
[07:25] <Frogzoo> Kavon89: sudo lshw
[07:26] <macogw> guys is the ntfs driver in feisty able to read and write or just read?
[07:26] <insomniac190> Creeture: will do, thanks a bunch!
[07:26] <bruenig> !ntfs-3g
[07:26] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[07:26] <macogw> Bree1:  do what ubotu said
[07:26] <Bree1> Ive went there and followed everything, and it didnt work
[07:27] <bruenig> Bree1, pastebin your /etc/fstab
[07:27] <macogw> bruenig: we've got it mounted at /media/drive
[07:27] <macogw> bruenig: the current permissions are 755
[07:27] <macogw> bruenig: root owns it
[07:27] <Frogzoo> !ntfs-3g | macogw
[07:27] <macogw> bruenig: "sudo chmod -R +w /media/drive" doesnt help and still says read only
[07:27] <macogw> Frogzoo: it was for Bree1
[07:27] <ubotu> macogw: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[07:28] <macogw> ubotu: you're a slowpoke
[07:29] <Zenji> Bak.
[07:29] <Zenji> Is there a way to pass lock folders on Ubuntu?
[07:29] <Zenji> I dont mean setting permissions either.
[07:29] <Zenji> I mean plain ol "No pass no see."
[07:30] <Arch-away> thank god for back ups
[07:30] <Arch-away> you guys rock
[07:30] <bluebanana> how do i know what graphics card is in my computer?
[07:30] <bruenig> macogw, how did you mount it though
[07:30] <macogw> bruenig: "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/drive"
[07:30] <macogw> bluebanana: lspci
[07:30] <Creeture> Zenji: Not on a folder, but that's because a folder is nothing but a special file that merely contains filesystem pointers to other files. If you want to password lock stuff, use gpg and encrypt it.
[07:30] <macogw> bluebanana: in the terminal
[07:30] <EADG_> bluebanana: lspci
[07:31] <bruenig> macogw, sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/drive
[07:31] <macogw> bruenig: ah ok
[07:31] <macogw> Bree1:  "sudo umount /media/drive" then do what bruenig  just said
[07:31] <bluebanana> EADG, macogw Thanks!
[07:31] <danl> !automate
[07:31] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[07:31] <bruenig> that is assuming you have ntfs-3g installed of course
[07:31] <Bree1> .. okay. WHo do I PM in what was the response, macogw?
[07:31] <danl> !clone
[07:31] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[07:32] <macogw> Bree1: scroll up and read bruenig's response
[07:32] <CppIsWeird> where do i go to modify the settings of the icons on my desktop and such?
[07:32] <bruenig> CppIsWeird, gconf-editor unfortunately
[07:32] <doyley_> anyone try to put ubuntu on an xbox??
[07:32] <Bree1> What is ntfs-3g, then?
[07:32] <macogw> bruenig: she said shealready followed that, so i assume ntfs-3g is installed
[07:32] <macogw> Bree1: the good ntfs driver
[07:32] <danl> thats odd... the set selections part doesn't seem to be working
[07:32] <macogw> Bree1: that lets you read and write
[07:32] <bruenig> macogw, right I would think so also, but then again if she followed it, it should be working so...
[07:32] <macogw> Bree1: i didnt know you had to specify file system when mounting
[07:33] <danl> i can cat the package file and all the packages are listed... but it will not install them
[07:33] <screenname92834> how do I install the essential-build package without the install cd folks?
[07:33] <bruenig> Bree1, common problem, restart your computer, boot into windows, restart it again and boot into linux, sometimes windows does some real stuff to ntfs and when you shut it down ntfs-3g can't deal with it
[07:33] <macogw> screenname92834: "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[07:34] <bruenig> weird*
[07:34] <Bree1> I cant boot into windows, bruenig
[07:34] <macogw> Bree1: why?
[07:34] <bruenig> Bree1, uh oh
[07:34] <Bree1> No windows.
[07:34] <bruenig> get rid of ntfs then
[07:34] <macogw> Bree1: just an old hard drive with a crappy file system?
[07:34] <Bree1> Its on a seperate harddrive
[07:34] <Bree1> No.
[07:34] <Bree1> I screwed up when installing Ubuntu
[07:34] <Bree1> And I cant get into Windows
[07:34] <Bree1> So I disconnected the harddrive
[07:34] <macogw> Bree1: oh...crap
[07:34] <Bree1> Heh
[07:35] <macogw> Bree1: what does it do when you try to get to windows?
[07:35] <screenname92834> Can I just ask, why do I have a root user on my system when I can be a superuser myself?
[07:35] <munashii> so, i installed ati drivers through envy and it says that i have direct rendering on... but fglrxinfo says i'm using mesa still.. any idea what to do?
[07:35] <Bree1> It gives me a grub error, that I remember. Its been a few months
[07:35] <Bree1> I was in here asking for help for it.
[07:35] <n2diy> franky723: Ok, I'm hanging out for a while, but not all night!
[07:35] <macogw> screenname92834: you dont on ubuntu
[07:35] <macogw> screenname92834: most systems have it for when you're doing admin stuff only
[07:35] <bruenig> screenname92834, you don't have a root user by default
[07:35] <macogw> screenname92834: ubuntu doesnt
[07:35] <Creeture> screenname92834: Because it forces you to think about the times that you are being a superuser.
[07:35] <borgista> Hello, I have a quick question.  I changed my SaveAs dialog on Firefox to a more KDE friendly version but now I want to rever to the GTK version, anyone know how?
[07:35] <franky723> n2diy: sorry, nothing i do seems to work?
[07:35] <borgista> revert*
[07:36] <macogw> borgista: undo how you did it?
[07:36] <macogw> borgista: just do everything backwards?
[07:36] <screenname92834> but when I go to the users and groups dialog and show all users, there is 'root' and its home directory is /root and he has a password
[07:36] <borgista> Yes. Should I show you a screenshot?
[07:36] <bruenig> sudo is initially meant to allow you to run root stuff as a regular user, which is helpful often times for launching graphical applications that require it, ubuntu and others have taken it to the extreme and had everything use sudo
[07:36] <macogw> screenname92834: yeah but it's locked
[07:36] <franky723> n2diy: the fact that my laptop keeps locking up is slowing down the process
[07:36] <bruenig> most of the distros don't do that I have found
[07:36] <macogw> screenname92834: its just there because all linux systems have it and in case you want to enable it, but its not usable as is
[07:36] <Bree1> macogw, bruenig. So essentially if I log into windows, it may correct itself, eh?
[07:36] <n2diy> franky723: Can you reload Breezy, and see if that fixes things? That would be worth a bug report.
[07:37] <bruenig> Bree1, is this the same partition that windows is on?
[07:37] <macogw> screenname92834: he doesnt have a typable password either, by the way. the password is set to sort of non-existent string which wont make sense, so type "man passwd" and look at the part about locking
[07:37] <Bree1> No, bruenig
[07:37] <Bree1> I did make the partition /using/ windows, though
[07:37] <franky723> n2diy: i would have to download breezy, which i am actually considering.
[07:37] <Creeture> Bree1: If you don't want to go through that hassle, you might be about to boot off of your Windows CDROM, go into recovery console and do a chkdsk on the drive and clear everything up.
[07:38] <screenname92834> I wondered what the password was set to for mr root cos I didn't set it.
[07:38] <bruenig> Bree1, I don't know if that matters or not, I know that that is the fix for that error though, perhaps you had some error in shutdown or maybe the partitioner messed it up somehow
[07:38] <Bree1> A windows CD< Creeture? I have not one
[07:38] <bastid_raZor> windows can make ext3 partitions?
[07:38] <n2diy> franky723: Ok, thought you had a copy handy. But you did say this machine ran Breezy with out trouble right?
[07:38] <CppIsWeird> bruenig you know where a document is to better explain how i accomplish that task? i cant find anything.
[07:38] <Bree1> Dell computer. <3 They didnt send me one
[07:38] <macogw> Creeture: most OEMs dont give people the cds they are due when they buy windows-pre-loaded systems
[07:38] <bruenig> screenname92834, there is no password and the password is deactivated
[07:38] <borgista> macogw: Here's a screenshot : http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1396/766195359_d6aba8aac8_o.png
[07:39] <borgista> macogw: see how it's different from the 'normal' gtk view
[07:39] <Creeture> macogw: That's why we don't buy pre-loaded systems. :)
[07:39] <macogw> Creeture: they then attempt to charge an extra $60 usually to give you the cd that is rightfully yours anyway
[07:39] <macogw> borgista: um im in a terminal
[07:39] <bruenig> CppIsWeird, not sure, I hate gconf, I don't know why anyone in their right mind would create another registry type setup after windows but that is what gconf is
[07:39] <Bree1> I didnt buy the computer. My mother bought it for me. SDo I had no say. :P
[07:39] <macogw> borgista: and lynx cant show pictures
[07:39] <franky723> n2diy: yes. i have a feeling the problem just has to do with the changes in gnome network admin since breezy. i just tried something ... i think it may work. hold on
[07:39] <borgista> macogw: Yeah that'd make it difficult
[07:39] <macogw> bruenig: gconf must die.  or at least get a sensible gui
[07:40] <borgista> Anyone else know how to change this http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1396/766195359_d6aba8aac8_o.png to a normal GTK view?
[07:40] <CppIsWeird> lol
[07:40] <numus> anyone know where i can find the alphaware that people on youtube use to animate the startbar
[07:40] <screenname92834> ok I understand about locking -l now
[07:40] <macogw> numus: linux doesnt have a startbar
[07:40] <bruenig> borgista, what is that
[07:40] <abhi_> hi i want to do an lshw from a C program and i want it to run as sudo
[07:40] <numus> it is a gdesklet
[07:40] <abhi_> any suggestions?
[07:40] <borgista> bruenig: It's a modified firefox SaveAs dialog that I want to change.
[07:41] <CppIsWeird> Bruenig, i like the idea of the tool and xml, but it should be more like a config file, instead of a confusing registry-like system.
[07:41] <nevhood> Hey everyone
[07:41] <macogw> numus: if you mean the pre-alpha kiba dock, google for it
[07:41] <nevhood> quick question
[07:41] <borgista> numus: They're screenlets
[07:41] <numus> is that what animates items?
[07:41] <bruenig> borgista, why did you do that
[07:41] <nevhood> When i installed Ubuntu
[07:41] <Creeture> Bree1: Let's start anew on your problem. You have a 2nd drive, NTFS filesystem. You're trying to write to it?
[07:41] <borgista> bruenig: because it looked nicer in KDE
[07:41] <borgista> but now I use GNOME
[07:41] <Bree1> Uhm. Its a partition, Creeture.
[07:41] <n3rdism> XML >
[07:41] <bruenig> borgista, well just undo whatever you did
[07:41] <macogw> numus: kiba is a dock (like on a mac) with a physics engine. i assume it's what you're talking about.  the icons can fly all over the screen?
[07:41] <Creeture> Bree1: Same thing. Is the rest true?
[07:41] <borgista> bruenig: I forgot what I did. :-|
[07:41] <Bree1> I suppose so. Aye
[07:41] <slavik> macogw: yes
[07:42] <nevhood> When I installed Ubuntu, the Windows MBR was replaced by GRUB.  Now, I'm having trouble recovering the Windows MBR - especially since I do not have the Windows XP CD to run the recovery console.  What can I do?
[07:42] <macogw> slavik: yes?
[07:42] <bruenig> borgista, well, you can always delete your ~/.mozilla and reinstall firefox
[07:42] <n2diy> franky723: Yes, lots of things have changed since Dapper, and none of them I lured me away from Dapper.
[07:42] <bruenig> that is sure to do it
[07:42] <borgista> bruenig: I could. eep.
[07:42] <slavik> macogw: thought it was a question
[07:42] <macogw> slavik: yes to what?
[07:42] <Creeture> Bree1: It's partition /dev/sda1?
[07:42] <macogw> slavik: oh that was me asking numus if i was describing what he saw
[07:42] <Bree1> Yes, Creeture
[07:42] <slavik> nevhood: if you recover the windows mbr, you won't be able to boot ubuntu
[07:42] <franky723> n2diy: okay i think i may have fixed it. at least apt-get works now, which would (no idea why) always cut the network before.
[07:42] <macogw> slavik: to see if it was kiba dock or not
[07:43] <slavik> macogw: k
[07:43] <borgista> I found the answer
[07:43] <Creeture> Bree1: So do this.
[07:43] <borgista> woohoo
[07:43] <screenname92834> folks, what directory do 'general things for everyone' get installed to?
[07:43] <borgista> change ui.allow_platform_file_picke to "true" in "about:config"
[07:43] <Creeture> Bree1: sudo umount /dev/sda1
[07:43] <slavik> screenname92834: /usr usually, or /usr/local if done post initial install
[07:43] <n2diy> franky723: Ok, keep me hanging, or are you going to clue me in? ;)
[07:43] <Bree1> Creeture: umount: /dev/sda1: not mounted
[07:44] <franky723> n2diy: okay nevermind. network was cut in the middle of downloading audio codecs :(
[07:44] <screenname92834> ok!
[07:44] <Creeture> Bree1: dpkg -l ntfs-3g
[07:44] <nevhood> slavik: are you sure?  i've heard people have found ways to use Windows MBR to start Ubuntu
[07:44] <n2diy> franky723: Bummer.
[07:44] <Bree1> ALright, done. Creeture
[07:44] <munashii> i'm still having a bunch of trouble with feisty and my x1700 drivers, i'm not getting hardware acceleration even after installing drivers via envy.. any suggestions?
[07:44] <Creeture> Bree1: What version?
[07:44] <borgista> exit
[07:44] <Bree1> 1.328-1 , Creeture
[07:44] <kelvin> ubunto en espaol donde lo encuentro
[07:45] <Creeture> Bree1: Good. Now sudo dmesg -c
[07:45] <screenname92834> where can I find ubuntu in spanish?
[07:45] <abhi_> anybody can tell me how i can get lshw to work without an sudp?
[07:45] <nevhood> ooh one more question
[07:45] <Creeture> And ignore everything it says.
[07:45] <macogw> kelvin: va a #ubuntu-es
[07:45] <nevhood> When I start Ubuntu
[07:45] <nevhood> I get severe graphical corruption - what can I do?
[07:45] <nevhood> Until the login screen shows
[07:45] <munashii> anyone?
[07:45] <slavik> nevhood: do tell ... because as far as I know, windows mbr thinks that only windows is around ...
[07:45] <nevhood> I see a bunch of random lines
[07:45] <franky723> n2diy: well ifup and ifdown work properly now ...
[07:45] <Bree1> Creeture: [ 9152.972349]  NTFS-fs error (device sda1): ntfs_ucstonls(): Unicode name contains characters that cannot be converted to character set cp437.  You might want to try to use the mount option nls=utf8.
[07:45] <nevhood> slavik: hm...
[07:45] <franky723> n2diy: im trying that
[07:46] <slavik> nevhood: besides, grub has a shell built in in case things get messed up
[07:46] <Creeture> Bree1: So let's do that then.
[07:46] <SurfnKid> does anyone have any idea if a version of ubuntu will work with the eee pc?
[07:46] <Assassin`> whats a good recomendation for an html editor?
[07:46] <franky723> n2diy: says no dhcp offers recieved - sleeping. im going to go do static ip's and see if that works
[07:46] <slavik> Assassin`: bluefish
[07:46] <Bree1> I have no clue how to do that properly, Creeture
[07:46] <Assassin`> the person that wants it didn't like it
[07:46] <Assassin`> any others
[07:46] <nevhood> ah
[07:46] <nevhood> well
[07:47] <nevhood> can anyone help me with the startup issue?
[07:47] <numus> ok something annoying has been happening
[07:47] <numus> i click on something and i have to click again to get the popup that it is suppose to load
[07:47] <numus> any dieas?
[07:47] <numus> ideas
[07:47] <nevhood> When I start Ubuntu I see flickering and a bunch of random lines
[07:47] <slavik> Assassin`: geany, text-editor (gedit)
[07:47] <n2diy> franky723: Ah, so your router is assigning dynamic IPs? That is a good plan.
[07:47] <Assassin`> k
[07:47] <Creeture> Bree1: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o uid=1000,gid=1000,force /dev/sda1 /media/drive
[07:47] <Crnd> nevhood, dualboot thingies are nicely explained in the manual of gentoo if you want to use grub. you can do a dualboot menu with windows mbr thingies too but i'd say it is much easier with grub.
[07:48] <Zrax> Ok, so here's one that's got me:  I decided to be gutsy and try updating to gutsy ;), and now booting is totally screwed up for me...  Grub is still there (and installed properly), but when booting, it will fill half of the first  bar and then freeze indefinately.  When I turn off the graphical splash, it just gives me a completely blank screen (no kernel messages or anything)...  Any ideas?
[07:48] <numus> it is more the windows isn't going ontop of everything ig uess
[07:48] <Zrax> Oh, and attempting to boot the old kernels that worked before produces exactly the same results
[07:48] <nevhood> Zrax: how can i turn off the graphical splash?  Mine does not display properly!
[07:48] <macogw> Zrax: #ubuntu+1
[07:49] <Zrax> oh, didn't realize there was a beta chan, sorry
[07:49] <macogw> Zrax: in this case, alpha :)
[07:49] <Zrax> ah, true :)
[07:49] <stat10> a
[07:49] <stat10> hahahh
[07:49] <slavik> nevhood: boot into recovery mode
[07:49] <stat10> hello ll
[07:49] <Jordan_U> nevhood, Remove the "splash" kernel parameter
[07:49] <mano> Ubuntu is great!!!
[07:49] <slavik> or that
[07:49] <Zrax> oh, wait, now that I typed my probelm, I might have a new idea anyway
[07:50] <abhi_> does anyone know how i can find my hard disk number from command line?
[07:50] <nevhood> Jordan_U: how do i do that?  I'm relatively new at linux
[07:50] <macogw> abhi_: UUID or the /dev thing?
[07:51] <macogw> oh god i get japanese porn spam
[07:51] <Zrax> yep, nevermind...  Yet another case of My Own Stupidity (tm) :P
[07:51] <Zrax> well thanks anyway ;)
[07:51] <screenname92834> slavik: is that /usr/share, /usr/bin, usr/sbin or what???
[07:51] <n2diy> macogw: cool!
[07:51] <Fezzler> should I care that Open Sound System (OSS) is the only driver that produces sound?  Auto Detect, ALSA and my VIA chip drivers lockup Sound configure app
[07:51] <abhi_> macogw: i want to find the hard disk SERIAL NUMBER
[07:52] <macogw> abhi_: take it out and look at the sticker
[07:52] <n2diy> abhi_: have you tried lshw?
[07:52] <abhi_> ok
[07:52] <nevhood> How can I install a driver for my ATI Radeon XPRESS 200?
[07:52] <abhi_> macogw: i tried lshw
[07:52] <macogw> n2diy: i'm checking my email and there's japanese spam that i keep getting and i blacklisted a bunch of words from them already
[07:52] <abhi_> macogw: it gives me the serial number in sudo mode
[07:52] <screenname92834> how would I install a driver for my wifi card?
[07:53] <abhi_> macogw: i need to be able to get the serial number from inside a C program
[07:53] <diazepam> hi all - does anyone know how to get quicktime to play under ubuntu?
[07:53] <oneseventeen> nevhood: I just went to system>administration>restricted drivers manager
[07:53] <screenname92834> rather, where would I get a driver for my wifi card?
[07:53] <Frogzoo> how to add a subdirectory to an already existing svn repository?
[07:53] <n2diy> macogw: you read Japenese too? cool! :)
[07:53] <macogw> n2diy: i had to dictionary them mostly :-/ this one includes the phrase "anata no eria" which would translate as "my area" (no dictionary!)
[07:53] <macogw> diazepam: the files will play in totem with the right codecs
[07:53] <nevhood> onveseventeen: thank you!
[07:53] <abhi_> macogw: what sticker?
[07:53] <macogw> !codecs | diazepam
[07:53] <ubotu> diazepam: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:53] <nevhood> oneseventeen: thank you
[07:54] <macogw> abhi_: on the outside of the hard drive, physically
[07:54] <nevhood> spelling error haha
[07:54] <macogw> abhi_: no idea if you can get it from software. i dont think the drive itself knows it....
[07:54] <abhi_> macogw: it does otherwise how does lshw list it
[07:54] <macogw> abhi_: oh ok
[07:54] <macogw> abhi_: so then use that
[07:54] <abhi_> macogw: i want to hardwire my program to my hard disk
[07:54] <oneseventeen> what is the command to configure compiz?
[07:55] <nevhood> gotta restart
[07:55] <nevhood> bye everyone!
[07:55] <macogw> oneseventeen: install gnome-compiz-manager to get more config options
[07:55] <slavik> there is the model number which can be read from the drive and should be printed somewhere on the outside
[07:56] <oneseventeen> macogw: it is already installed... how do I launch it?
[07:57] <macogw> oneseventeen: just type the name of it i think
[07:57] <macogw> oneseventeen: or it is probably in system > preferences
[07:58] <Godchaser> Razaldazal
[07:58] <tsairox_> anybody have frostwire working with ubuntu 7.04?
[07:58] <l2s> could someone expain to me how to add a group via command line or edit a user in a group
[07:59] <kyle__> sup
[07:59] <macogw> tsairox_: whats the problem? blank window? disable beryl if so
[07:59] <Godchaser> tsairox_: i have the same prob, i try to load program, it does nothing
[07:59] <tsairox_> yeah. it just doesn't load
[07:59] <macogw> try it from the terminal and watch for errors
[08:00] <kyle__> i was wondering how to get my atheros wireless card to work on ubuntu
[08:00] <macogw> !wifi
[08:00] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:00] <tsairox_> it worked fine until i updated my system a week ago.  I was using ubuntu 7.04 then
[08:00] <kyle__> right
[08:00] <macogw> kyle__:  ^^
[08:00] <tsairox_> guess newer isn't always better!
[08:00] <kyle__> can anyone help me
[08:00] <kyle__> lol tru
[08:00] <macogw> tsairox_:any errors at teh terminal
[08:00] <macogw> kyle__: did you check the docs?
[08:00] <tsairox_> where do i find that?
[08:00] <unagi> i LOVE linux
[08:00] <kyle__> yeah
[08:00] <n3rdism> ichigooooooooO!!!!!12312231
[08:01] <unagi> =)
[08:01] <shiester_miester> gday everyone
[08:01] <shiester_miester> unagi, ME TOO
[08:01] <tsairox_> macofw?
[08:01] <shiester_miester> LETS BE FRIENDS
[08:01] <macogw> tsairox_: what
[08:01] <kyle__> linux is the shit but i just can get the card to work
[08:01] <macogw> tsairox_: the terminal?
[08:01] <tsairox_> macgow? where do i find that
[08:01] <macogw> tsairox_: applications > accessories > terminal
[08:01] <n3rdism> ubuntu rapes my soul
[08:01] <tsairox_> what commands?
[08:01] <n2diy> ! ohmy
[08:01] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:01] <macogw> tsairox_: frostwire
[08:01] <shiester_miester> hey macogw
[08:01] <shiester_miester> how you doin
[08:01] <macogw> tsairox_: mostly you just type teh name of the program
[08:02] <macogw> shiester_miester: ok
[08:02] <macogw> shiester_miester: you?
[08:02] <shiester_miester> busy :D
[08:02] <n3rdism> dont !ohmy me
[08:02] <tsairox_> frostwire?
[08:02] <n3rdism> i'd like to meet the parents who let their kids on irc at 2am
[08:02] <macogw> tsairox_: i assume thts hwo you run it
[08:02] <macogw> n3rdism: ever heard of time zones?
[08:02] <tsairox_> let me check?
[08:02] <tsairox_> back in sec
[08:02] <shiester_miester> n3rdism, its 2am where you live?
[08:03] <shiester_miester> are there any free alternatives to photoshop that is on the same level as photoshop and actually works properly on ubuntu?
[08:03] <Creeture> shiester_miester: gimp
[08:03] <shiester_miester> and dont say gimp, that is /not/ on the same level as photoshpo
[08:03] <shiester_miester> damn you
[08:03] <shiester_miester> lol
[08:03] <macogw> shiester_miester: there's nothing on the same level as photoshop
[08:03] <Creeture> :)
[08:03] <shiester_miester> macogw, yeah i thought so
[08:03] <shiester_miester> well, corel painter is
[08:03] <shiester_miester> but it also doesnt work :@
[08:03] <macogw> shiester_miester: well, except i am perfectly happy to argue that Paint Shop Pro is BETTER than photoshop
[08:04] <shiester_miester> does THAT work?
[08:04] <macogw> shiester_miester: its a windows program
[08:04] <kyle__> does anyone know where to find the driver that will get my atheros wifi card working?
[08:04] <Haulin> Sgniteerg
[08:04] <macogw> shiester_miester: its still better than photoshop in my mind though :p
[08:04] <macogw> Haulin: what?
[08:04] <shiester_miester> i dont care if its a windows program, as long as it works
[08:04] <n2diy> franky723: Did you fall in/
[08:04] <LucianIndy> !wifi
[08:04] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:04] <macogw> shiester_miester: on windows it does... idk about on ubuntu
[08:04] <shiester_miester> ah ok
[08:04] <Creeture> If you mean impossible to use unless you do it every day, then nothing is on the same level as photoshop
[08:04] <macogw> shiester_miester: check wine and crossover's db's
[08:04] <shiester_miester> but its not free though, i bet
[08:05] <screenname92834> hee hee!
[08:05] <macogw> Creeture: which is why i say psp is better!
[08:05] <franky723> n2diy: still not working. going to give up and install breezy.
[08:05] <gh0stx> !hal | gh0stx
[08:05] <macogw> Creeture: psp is easy to use but does all the same stuff as photoshop
[08:05] <macogw> shiester_miester: $100
[08:05] <Haulin> playstation portable?
[08:05] <franky723> n2diy: when they say stop support after 6 months, do they mean they remove the repositories as well?
[08:05] <macogw> shiester_miester: intead of the $800 for photoshop
[08:05] <n2diy> franky723: Ok, good luck, I'll cut you loose, and stalk another victim then.
[08:05] <macogw> franky723: no
[08:05] <macogw> franky723: just no updates
[08:05] <shiester_miester> oh ok
[08:05] <Creeture> macogw: I'm not disagreeing with you at all. I think Photoshop is a waste of time.
[08:06] <macogw> franky723: and support is 18 months
[08:06] <gh0stx> just use gimp
[08:06] <franky723> macogw: okay then
[08:06] <screenname92834> folks, how do I search the directory tree for a filename?
[08:06] <macogw> screenname92834: grep
[08:06] <Haulin> google desktop
[08:06] <macogw> screenname92834: nevermind
[08:06] <bruenig> grep?
[08:06] <kyle__> yeah atheros card isnt listed there
[08:06] <macogw> screenname92834: locate
[08:06] <macogw> bruenig: i got mixed up
[08:06] <franky723> n2diy: well, thanks a ton for your help. later
[08:06] <shiester_miester> gh0stx, gimp is great for smaller things, but not for high-end professional stuff
[08:06] <screenname92834> grep is used for searching a file
[08:06] <bruenig> screenname92834, find /path -name whatever
[08:06] <gh0stx> screen*, slocate (insttaled??) find
[08:06] <n2diy> sceenname locate
[08:06] <numus> anyone know why new windows would not be opening ontop of the old ones?
[08:06] <macogw> screenname92834: i said nevermind!
[08:06] <gh0stx> yea yea
[08:06] <macogw> screenname92834: locate
[08:06] <screenname92834> locate it is then
[08:07] <n2diy> franky723: 73
[08:07] <screenname92834> many thanks
[08:07] <kyle__> so do i need to buy another one?
[08:07] <l2s> I did an ubuntu install from the cd lamp stack option
[08:07] <l2s>  <l2s> but the /var/www directory is owned by root root
[08:07] <l2s>  <l2s> is this normal or bad?
[08:07] <bruenig> or find
[08:07] <numus> anyone have any ideas?
[08:07] <macogw> numus: if you change your window manager's settings
[08:07] <shiester_miester> would it be possible to run photoshop in a virtual machine in ubuntu?
[08:07] <l2s> do i need to add myself to the www-data group?
[08:07] <John`> is there a program to clean up ubuntu?
[08:07] <l2s> im very confused
[08:07] <John`> i mean hard drive
[08:07] <Haulin> I think so
[08:08] <macogw> numus: on beyrl there's options of always-centered, normal, or intelligent (i think....) which puts it in wherever's empty
[08:08] <numus> macogw hmm
[08:08] <shiester_miester> John`, do u mean defragment
[08:08] <macogw> shiester_miester:  sure why not
[08:08] <kyle__> so knowone can help me?????/
[08:08] <John`> yeah, like in windows there is ccleaner
[08:08] <Haulin> but don't use the one for orphaned packages unless you know what you are doing
[08:08] <numus> no i mean
[08:08] <macogw> shiester_miester: photoshop 6 works with crossover...
[08:08] <John`> is there a program similar in ubuntu?
[08:08] <numus> say i open repose
[08:08] <mattwj2005> I have an Ubuntu package require.....basically it is just a few small scripts
[08:08] <shiester_miester> photoshop 6...thats a bit too old to be useful :P
[08:08] <numus> hmm not a good example
[08:08] <mattwj2005> we need an install package for folding at home like gentoo has
[08:08] <macogw> John`: deborphan cleans up debs tht were automatically installed by programs that are gone
[08:08] <shiester_miester> John`, that cleaner just deletes files, which is something u could easily do by yourself
[08:08] <numus> basicly if i open something... that requires a popup screen.. like firefox for an encrypted page
[08:08] <macogw> John`: for the most part htough....unnecessary
[08:09] <mattwj2005> it would make my life easier :)
[08:09] <numus> the encryption notice shows up BEHIND firefox
[08:09] <Creeture> *yawn* How the heck did it get to be 2am?
[08:09] <macogw> John`: windows gets fudged because there is a lot of junk left after uninstalls
[08:09] <macogw> John`: on ubuntu, things uninstall cleanly
[08:09] <n2diy> mattwj2005: have you tried the package from the folding page?
[08:09] <shiester_miester> its not necessarily uninstalls
[08:09] <shiester_miester> a lot of programs leave temporary files lying around
[08:09] <shiester_miester> even in ubuntu
[08:09] <John`> ok.
[08:09] <Haulin> that they do
[08:09] <macogw> shiester_miester: those are config files
[08:09] <mattwj2005> yup...it works fine....but what I like with gentoo is you can start it as a service
[08:09] <shiester_miester> macogw, they can be
[08:09] <bruenig> not really
[08:09] <John`> so how do you defragment in ubuntu?
[08:09] <numus> you understand?
[08:10] <bruenig> a directory in the home directory is all
[08:10] <bruenig> clear that out pretty easily
[08:10] <Creeture> John`: You don't. You don't need to.
[08:10] <shiester_miester> John`, if you are using one of the ext filesystems, you dont have to, afaik
[08:10] <mattwj2005> like I said it is pretty small
[08:10] <bruenig> nothing like the registry setup which is designed to fall apart
[08:10] <macogw> John`: if you uninstall things and want the config files to go away with them use "sudo aptitude remove --purge $package"...installing and uninstalling with aptitude makes for cleaner dependency handling
[08:10] <John`> ok
[08:10] <n2diy> John' fsch
[08:10] <shiester_miester> they defragment themselves on the fly or something
[08:10] <Gun_Smoke> I deleted the top panel on my desktop before thinking of how to put everything back.  How do I add the standard stuff ie.  Applications Places System etc. ?
[08:10] <mattwj2005> you do something like /etc/init.d/foldingathome
[08:10] <n2diy> John' fsck
[08:10] <macogw> n2diy: do you really need to defrag ext3?
[08:10] <bruenig> macogw, lies
[08:10] <mattwj2005> */etc/init.d/foldingathome start
[08:10] <shiester_miester> macogw, no you dont...it defrags itself afaik
[08:10] <macogw> bruenig: --purge cleans up the config files
[08:10] <bruenig> the last part
[08:11] <shiester_miester> or rather, doesnt get fragmented in the first place
[08:11] <shiester_miester> or maybe it does...i dunno
[08:11] <screenname92834> I just entered 'man locate' and it gives me the man page for 'slocate' what is going on?
[08:11] <macogw> bruenig: isnt that why aptitude is recommended on the forums all the time?
[08:11] <n2diy> macogw: I don't believe so, but it pacifies the winders folks. Besides, it run as a cron job every 24 hours.
[08:11] <macogw> bruenig: because it removes the dependencies on uninstall while apt-get doesnt remove them on uninstall
[08:11] <John`> do i need to unmount my drive first before using fsck?
[08:11] <shiester_miester> screenname92834, they must be the same thing or something
[08:11] <bruenig> macogw, that is incorrect
[08:11] <kennykix> hey all, when i install ubuntu it wont boot, i get this "Error loading operating system
[08:11] <screenname92834> sheister_m but they aren't
[08:11] <numus>  when i open a new window it goes behind the active window instead of infront
[08:11] <bruenig> macogw, see apt-get autoremove
[08:12] <macogw> bruenig: i know about autoremove
[08:12] <bruenig> macogw, ok so then what are you talking about
[08:12] <shiester_miester> screenname92834, type "locate --help" and "slocate --help" the output is identical
[08:12] <mattwj2005> foldingathome is such an important project too
[08:12] <_notserpe> anyone know how to get 7.04 fb working on macbookpro?
[08:12] <mattwj2005> :)
[08:12] <macogw> bruenig: on the forums ive seen it said basically that aptitude makes it so you dont need autoremove
[08:12] <screenname92834> just one of those things, then.
[08:12] <shiester_miester> so yes, they are EXACTLY the same program, apparently
[08:12] <Haulin> try to download any new kernel files with update manager before you install
[08:12] <Creeture> John`: Is there some sort of problem that makes you want to fsck or are you doing it "just for the hell of it" like in the Windows world?
[08:12] <macogw> bruenig: that it pulls in the not-required-but-good-to-have dependencies, and then does the autoremove stuff automagically
[08:13] <bruenig> macogw, that statement makes no sense, I read on the forums that apt-get autoremove makes it so you don't need aptitude remove
[08:13] <screenname92834> well, they could at least call them the same thing.
[08:13] <bruenig> like how does that mean anything
[08:13] <macogw> bruenig: the last word was autoremove not aptitude remove
[08:13] <tsairox_> macogw you there?  When I run frostwire from the command line this is what i get: http://tsairox.com/frostwire.txt
[08:13] <macogw> bruenig: what?
[08:13] <numus> anyone?
[08:13] <florian> Hey guys, I cannot browse the windows network from feisty, it cannot see any other computers, even though there are about 7 on the same network
[08:13] <bruenig> macogw, no but you just said, using one program to do X means that you don't have to use another program to do X
[08:13] <shiester_miester> florian, yeah i have a similar problem :/
[08:14] <macogw> bruenig: on the forums, i read that aptitude install and aptitude uninstall, when used on the same package, make it so that when you remove the packge it automatically does the remove and the autoremove instead of you having to do them as two steps
[08:14] <Haulin> did you have frostwire running before?
[08:14] <florian> shiester_miester, does anyone have a solution?  it was working fine yesterday
[08:14] <John`> i'm just seeing why i lose more hardrive space than what i put in..
[08:14] <bruenig> macogw, apt-get autoremove package
[08:14] <bruenig> macogw, one step
[08:14] <shiester_miester> oh ok
[08:14] <n2diy> bruenig: I think your using X as a variable? Maybe x is a better choice?
[08:14] <Haulin> try the recovery mode
[08:14] <shiester_miester> florian, mine wasnt working at all...ever :P
[08:14] <bruenig> n2diy, perhaps in this instance
[08:14] <nevhood> Hello!
[08:14] <notserpe> ubuntu install on macbookpro anyone?
[08:15] <macogw> bruenig: didnt know that could go there..ok....so why is aptitude recommended?
[08:15] <goldfingermafia> anyone have any idea why my baatery isnt working
[08:15] <kennykix> hey all, when i install ubuntu it wont boot, i get this "Error loading operating system" i'm not sure what i'm doing wrong - there are no other OS's and i didnt change any options during install. the HDD is SATA and its not the first drive on the controller but it is the first boot device in the BIOS any ideas?
[08:15] <shiester_miester> notserpe, we get a lot of people asking that question
[08:15] <nevhood> I'm still having an issue
[08:15] <n2diy> bruenig: :)
[08:15] <goldfingermafia> notserpe: i am runnin it on a macbook
[08:15] <Haulin> sheister...the latest frostwire dl is in dos format
[08:15] <macogw> goldfingermafia: it needs to be recharged?
[08:15] <Jordan_U> notserpe, What revision, I am using a first gen macbook pro now
[08:15] <numus> W: GPG error: http://download.tuxfamily.org feisty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2D6CFB44DD800CD9
[08:15] <Jordan_U> ?
[08:15] <bruenig> macogw, because people like you keep echoing it and then the people in here read what you said and they say it and so forth and so on
[08:15] <Haulin> see their page on how to fix that
[08:15] <nevhood> When I'm starting up Ubuntu the splash screen does not show - rather, a bunch of random lines flicker.  How can I fix that?
[08:15] <goldfingermafia> macogw: no it is full but it says i have 6 mins left, i can check it by pressing the buttion on the battery
[08:15] <notserpe> Jordan_U: 17 duo not 2... i get messed up fb on graphical boot
[08:16] <macogw> bruenig: ok so how about what purpose does aptitude on the command line serve? i know it can be a gui, but why the command part of it?
[08:16] <goldfingermafia> notserpe: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[08:16] <Creeture> John`: Math error most likely. There's about 147% chance that you're not using more space than you're putting in. Hidden files, partial files, temporaries, etc might make it seem that way.
[08:16] <bruenig> macogw, the only thing that is nice about aptitude is the log from what I can see
[08:16] <macogw> John`: i'm wrong
[08:16] <notserpe> 7.04 desktop I think
[08:17] <goldfingermafia> notserpe: so you cant even boot it as a live cd?
[08:17] <bruenig> I would prefer apt-get though because it doesn't suck in those recommended packages and it doesn't force you to remove dependencies
[08:17] <costas> hello all
[08:17] <John`> i se..
[08:17] <Jordan_U> notserpe, Go to a shell with ctrl+alt+f1 then run this and choose "fglrx" as the driver: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh && sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[08:17] <John`> see*
[08:17] <costas> i am wanting to use gbindadmin but it doesnt seem to work for me out-of-the box
[08:17] <notserpe> switching to a VC results in black screen.
[08:18] <macogw> Jordan_U: what does the -phigh do?
[08:18] <Jordan_U> goldfingermafia, Even vesa won't work on the sh*t ati card it comes with, requires fglrx
[08:18] <nevhood> does anyone have a suggestion?
[08:18] <Jordan_U> macogw, Asks less questiong
[08:18] <goldfingermafia> anyone have any luck running airsnot
[08:18] <Jordan_U> *questions
[08:18] <psYconic> for what?
[08:18] <macogw> Jordan_U: ok wish i new that 5 hours ago
[08:18] <costas> i thinkit is just a case of setting the right directory but as it stands it is set to /var/named -- is there any other settings i must change for it to work
[08:18] <nevhood> I'm trying to fix the splash screen - all I get is a bunch of flickering at startup.
[08:18] <Jordan_U> macogw, :)
[08:18] <goldfingermafia> Jordan_U: ah is that the problem the ati card, im using a macbook so i have integrated graphix lol so i dont have the problem
[08:19] <macogw> Jordan_U: keyboard questions? i just want 1024x768! go away!
[08:19] <Jordan_U> macogw, It just asks driver and resolution
[08:19] <notserpe> fedora boots just fine, btw.
[08:19] <goldfingermafia> is there a prgram like netstubler but for linux? anyone know
[08:20] <macogw> goldfingermafia: whats it do?
[08:20] <goldfingermafia> macogw: it jsut shows all the networks that it picks up, liek for wardriving it will just show all the ones that it can see
[08:20] <florian> ok, I can see the computer using smbclient -NL however no computers are showing up in the Network Places through gnome, I cannot seem to connect to them.  My linux machine is in the same workgroup as the rest of them
[08:20] <Haulin> what exactly is Dvorak layout?
[08:20] <goldfingermafia> macogw: and i think kismet will do that but i cant figure out how to get that to work
[08:20] <Gun_Smoke> I deleted the top panel on my desktop before thinking of how to put everything back.  How do I add the standard stuff ie.  Applications Places System etc. ?
[08:21] <macogw> goldfingermafia: its in the repos if youre trying to compile it
[08:21] <Haulin> add the notification area
[08:21] <Haulin> gunsmoke
[08:21] <ImHopeless> Can someone help me? Firefox keeps randomly shutting down and I think it has something to do with Flash Player. Where do I find FlashPlayer and delete it?
[08:21] <shiester_miester> Gun_Smoke, right click on the panel and click "add to panel"
[08:21] <shiester_miester> and add on whatever you like
[08:21] <goldfingermafia> macogw: the porblem i have with kismet is i dont knwo to set the sever confguration to for my wifi card
[08:21] <Haulin> add the notification area
[08:21] <macogw> goldfingermafia: oh.  howabout airsnort then?
[08:21] <macogw> ImHopeless: tools
[08:22] <nevhood> ImHopless: Flash Player is an add-on for Firefox
[08:22] <macogw> ImHopeless: addons
[08:22] <ImHopeless> I know.
[08:22] <Jordan_U> ImHopeless, if you installed it from the repos apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree ( and yes it causes a lot of crashes )
[08:22] <costas> anyone know about gbindadmin pls?
[08:22] <numus> W: GPG error: http://download.tuxfamily.org feisty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2D6CFB44DD800CD9
[08:22] <Haulin> hello?
[08:22] <goldfingermafia> macogw: airsnort will not work with my card, it shows up as ath0 but it dosent pick up any networks, im new to liunx so i might jsut be doing something wronge
[08:22] <numus> i get that error when i attempt apt-get update
[08:22] <macogw> ImHopeless: i'm wrong again
[08:22] <macogw> ImHopeless: i know i have flashplayer but its not listed in addons
[08:22] <kbrosnan> ImHopeless: flash player tends to crash a lot when more than one flash plugin is installed
[08:22] <bruenig> numus, that is because you added third party repos
[08:22] <macogw> goldfingermafia: could be your card
[08:22] <numus> probably
[08:22] <bruenig> flash player is a plugin
[08:23] <Jordan_U> ImHopeless, konqueror keeps plugins in a separate process so they don't crash it though
[08:23] <bruenig> not an add on
[08:23] <goldfingermafia> macogw: do you run kismet?
[08:23] <ImHopeless> I only have Flash Player, and Firefox won't stay open
[08:23] <Gun_Smoke> shiester_miester: I've put the clock and what not back.  I can't figure out how to add the drop down menus that were there.  Apps, system, places.....
[08:23] <numus> bruenig any fix?
[08:23] <bruenig> numus, so clear the third party repo out of our /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:23] <valehru> hmm....I cannot see any computers on my windows network...frustrating.
[08:23] <Haulin> add main menu
[08:23] <kbrosnan> ImHopeless: type about:plugins in the address bar of firefox and put the text on a pastebin site
[08:23] <shiester_miester> Gun_Smoke, thats called the  "Menu Bar"
[08:23] <nevhood> Sorry to keep asking... but does anyone have any insight on how I can fix my splash screen? All I get is a bunch of random lines and flickers...
[08:23] <macogw> goldfingermafia: ummm well...i got it going on mine at one point by following the directions
[08:23] <Haulin> the main menu
[08:24] <numus> whats the edit command again
[08:24] <Gun_Smoke> shiester_miester: Ah HA.. Thanks.
[08:24] <Haulin> hear me anyone?
[08:24] <shiester_miester> Gun_Smoke, although i recommend you add the "Main Menu" instead of the "Menu Bar", since it's smaller.  It resembes the windows start button more
[08:24] <goldfingermafia> macogw: i set the suiduser, but it will not run, i dont know what to set the sever to
[08:24] <ImHopeless> I typed about:plugins and it crashed.
[08:24] <Jordan_U> Haulin, no
[08:24] <shiester_miester> Haulin, nope :P
[08:24] <Haulin> darn
[08:24] <macogw> goldfingermafia: i dont know
[08:24] <Frogzoo> valehru: have you set the workgroup in /etc/samba/smb.conf ?
[08:24] <numus> anyone.. how do i edit in terminal
[08:24] <shiester_miester> numus, there is a few, "vi", "nano" and "gedit" come to mind
[08:24] <Haulin> wait a sec...
[08:24] <bruenig> ImHopeless, that wouldn't be flash's fault, there is no reason about plugins would crash
[08:24] <Flannel> numus: nano is proably easiest
[08:24] <shiester_miester> gedit isnt for editing in the terminal
[08:24] <goldfingermafia> macogw: im sorry the packet source
[08:24] <bruenig> gedit is not terminal
[08:24] <ImHopeless> :P
[08:24] <Flannel> shiester_miester: gedit wouldn't do it.
[08:24] <Haulin> you guys....
[08:24] <shiester_miester> nano is probably better
[08:24] <ImHopeless> It just quit workin for no reason.
[08:24] <Haulin> ^_^
[08:24] <ImHopeless> I can't download another browser or nothin.
[08:24] <shiester_miester> Flannel, i wrote that before he added "in the terminal" :P
[08:25] <numus> awesome
[08:25] <numus> gedit
[08:25] <shiester_miester> numus, no, not gedit
[08:25] <shiester_miester> gedit is not for editing in the terminal
[08:25] <bruenig> numus, guessing from that error you could probably just do "sudo sed '/tux/d' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:25] <bruenig> "
[08:25] <bruenig> editing with sed is awesome
[08:25] <shiester_miester> numus, gedit is a GUI-based editor sort of like notepad in windows
[08:25] <numus> i just deleted the bottom 2 lines
[08:25] <goldfingermafia> anyone know how to configure the packet source in kismet? im using a macbook
[08:25] <n2diy> no one voted for emacs!?
[08:26] <Jordan_U> n2diy, Why would you when there is vi ;)
[08:26] <shiester_miester> numus, congratulations
[08:26] <macogw> shiester_miester: yeah, on steroids
[08:26] <tsairox_> why would anyone bother using gedit when vim or vi is so much faster?
[08:26] <numus> wtf does apt-get -f install do
[08:26] <numus> i just ran it because it told me to
[08:26] <shiester_miester> i did say "sort of like", macogw :P
[08:26] <Frogzoo> !editor wars
[08:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about editor wars - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:26] <MajorPayne> n2diy: emacs isn't there by default.
[08:26] <bruenig> tsairox_, they probably don't know all the commands and such
[08:26] <numus> ahh crap
[08:26] <shiester_miester> in the same way that photoshop is "sort of like" mspaint
[08:26] <n2diy> Jordan_U: because there hasn't been an emacs/vi war here in a month or so? :>
[08:26] <ImHopeless> My Firefox keeps crashing and my friend can't send me the Opera install file. What do I do?
[08:26] <macogw> shiester_miester: what?
[08:27] <shiester_miester> you heard me :P
[08:27] <screenname92834> how do you get a listing of all the directories? I tried ls -d and it's not very helpful
[08:27] <tsairox_> true.  There is a short audio tutorial at linuxreality.com like 20 min
[08:27] <valehru> Frogzoo, that workgroup is the same.....however I cannot see even my own computer on the windows network.
[08:27] <Jordan_U> n2diy, I know, what is the world coming to?
[08:27] <tsairox_> it is way easier
[08:27] <tsairox_> vi , vim
[08:27] <bruenig> ImHopeless, try to see why, the first thing I would do is mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozillabackup and then restarting it and seeing if you have the same problems, if you don't then it is some personal configuration you have done that has caused it
[08:27] <macogw> shiester_miester: i dont think i said "sort of like"....when did i say that?
[08:28] <shiester_miester> no, i did
[08:28] <n2diy> Jordan_U: nano, sigh.
[08:28] <macogw> shiester_miester: oh nevermind
[08:28] <numus> god i love full update
[08:28] <EADG_> screenname92834: du -h /
[08:28] <shiester_miester> i was quoting myself
[08:28] <numus> with 1 command
[08:28] <bruenig> tsairox_, not if you don't edit much, if all you do is add a line ever so often, there is no reason to listen to a 20 min tutorial when that is more time then you will ever spend editing
[08:28] <ImHopeless> Bruennig: I haven't done anything to it. I just installed Ubuntu earlier.
[08:28] <screenname92834> du -h / ok!
[08:28] <macogw> shiester_miester: yeah i got confused
[08:28] <EADG_> screenname92834: du -h / |less
[08:28] <bruenig> ImHopeless, well try it
[08:28] <goldfingermafia> anyone succesfully set up kismet htat can help me
[08:28] <screenname92834> less is more!
[08:28] <EADG_> screenname92834: yep :)
[08:28] <shiester_miester> screenname92834, amen to that
[08:28] <screenname92834> why can't you get a directory listing with ls then?
[08:29] <bruenig> goldfingermafia, can you use kismet with a no root password setup
[08:29] <bruenig> ?
[08:29] <macogw> screenname92834: so true..why are they named that?
[08:29] <macogw> bruenig: yes
[08:29] <shiester_miester> screenname92834, you can if you add a few command line arguments, i think
[08:29] <goldfingermafia> bruenig: no
[08:29] <bruenig> macogw, how
[08:29] <screenname92834> sm like what?
[08:29] <shiester_miester> no idea
[08:29] <macogw> bruenig: i dont know, but i did before i learned how to set a root password, so i know it's possible
[08:29] <Frogzoo> valehru: browsing with smb4k is easiest
[08:29] <MajorPayne> Is ed still the "standard" editor for the Unix standard?
[08:29] <Jordan_U> macogw, My guess more because it just shows you more, and less to be clever ;)
[08:29] <towlieba> i just installed ubuntu and everything works but i cant increase the resolution above 1024x768. how do i configure x so i can choose a higher resolution
[08:29] <shiester_miester> screenname92834, "ls --help" and figure it out yourself
[08:29] <EADG_> screenname92834: you can, bu du -h was the first that popped into me head... that will list _everything_
[08:29] <tsairox_> i am a newbie and have spent lots of time editing.  I have been using linux for 1/ 1/2 years and it is much easier even as a newbie to use vi, vim.  A few basic commands get you going
[08:29] <Pretor1ab> hello all
[08:29] <Frogzoo> MajorPayne: nope - vi is the admin standard pretty much
[08:30] <notserpe> yep just blank screen on boot with noapic.
[08:30] <shiester_miester> tsairox_, good for you
[08:30] <numus> does anyone else love the fact if something breaks in ubuntu the damn os tells you how to fix it?
[08:30] <bruenig> macogw, must have been patched or something because from the man pages and config files it looks like you would need two separate users
[08:30] <tsairox_> sometimes you have to be root too
[08:30] <Pretor1ab> can anyone pls help to understand why gbindadmin is not working for me
[08:30] <shiester_miester> numus, does it? :/
[08:30] <Ayabara> Hi. I used mkfs.hfsplus in Ubuntu to format an external harddrive so I could access it from both Linux and OS X. Yesterday I got my MB Pro, and the problem is that it won't read the drive. It says "The disk you inserted is not readable" or something like that. I can access it without any problems from Ubuntu.
[08:30] <Ltar> mount.ntfs-3g is sucking down all of my CPU clicks, what's going wrong?
[08:30] <numus> ya
[08:30] <screenname92834> sm well I did acually look at the man page for ls and it says ls -d should be ok but it's not .
[08:30] <Jordan_U> numus, That would be apt :)
[08:30] <shiester_miester> numus, usually when something breaks for me i just use the "IT Crowd" solution
[08:30] <macogw> bruenig: i installed it last august and only got a root password in december when my ex was too lazy to sudo su -
[08:30] <ImHopeless> Bruenig: Thanks alot! It worked :D
[08:30] <kestaz> tip of today: read the fucking manual!!
[08:30] <Ltar> nevermind, I fixed it
[08:30] <Ayabara> anyone skilled at filesystem stuff that have a suggestion to this?
[08:30] <shiester_miester> kestaz, dont swear
[08:30] <shiester_miester> and yes i agree with you, kestaz  :P
[08:30] <Ltar> unplugged the external drive that ntfs-3g couldn't mount
[08:30] <Jordan_U> numus, Debian FTW :)
[08:30] <bruenig> numus, that is true of most linux programs, error messages are custom for most programs period
[08:30] <nevhood> haha
[08:31] <nevhood> Ubuntu just froze on me
[08:31] <macogw> kestaz: say "friendly"
[08:31] <nevhood> That's another issue I've been having
[08:31] <tsairox_> and if you mess up X11 or xorg.conf you are screwed.  Knowing vi, vim , emacs could be crucial
[08:31] <macogw> kestaz: or fscking
[08:31] <shiester_miester> hahaha
[08:31] <nevhood> Ubuntu freezes every 10 minutes!!!
[08:31] <Ltar> thanks for the help, guys. peace.
[08:31] <shiester_miester> fsck = brilliant
[08:31] <numus> god i love kiba
[08:31] <screenname92834> sm I am unimpressed
[08:31] <macogw> tsairox_: nano would work...
[08:31] <Jordan_U> nevhood, Can you get to a virtual terminal?
[08:31] <shiester_miester> numus, kiba-dock?
[08:31] <nevhood> virtual terminal?
[08:31] <numus> ya
[08:31] <towlieba> i just installed ubuntu and everything works but i cant increase the resolution above 1024x768. how do i configure x so i can choose a higher resolution
[08:31] <notserpe> so no one knows how to work around the macbookpro blankscreen/messed up fb problem?
[08:31] <bruenig> ImHopeless, if there is nothing you wish to salvage from your old setup, you can rm -rf ~/.mozillabackup
[08:31] <Pretor1ab> does anyone use gbindadmin ?
[08:31] <shiester_miester> numus, avant-window-navigator is WAY better than kiba-dock, imho
[08:31] <tsairox_> true too, although not as powerful
[08:31] <macogw> shiester_miester: you've never seen the sexual bash commands have you
[08:31] <nevhood> What is a virtual terminal?
[08:31] <Jordan_U> nevhood, ctrl+alt+F1 to get to a terminal ( f7 to get back to X )
[08:31] <shiester_miester> macogw, im guessing "touch" is one of them?
[08:31] <numus> shiester_miester does it do all the animated crap
[08:32] <bruenig> docks suck
[08:32] <shiester_miester> and "finger"
[08:32] <macogw> shiester_miester: yes and yes
[08:32] <macogw> shiester_miester: mount as well
[08:32] <Jordan_U> shiester_miester, Yes :)
[08:32] <shiester_miester> numus, yes but not the stupid useless system-hogging physics
[08:32] <Jordan_U> shiester_miester, And yes :)
[08:32] <macogw> shiester_miester: sleep, unzip
[08:32] <shiester_miester> also, it runs much faster and is more stable
[08:32] <numus> shiester_miester is it in repos?
[08:32] <tsairox_> macogw: did you read my earlier post about frostwire
[08:32] <macogw> tsairox_: didnt see it
[08:32] <shiester_miester> numus, nope
[08:32] <tsairox_> http://tsairox.com/frostwire.txt
[08:32] <numus> how do you install it
[08:32] <shiester_miester> numus, its quite easy to install
[08:32] <tsairox_> check that
[08:32] <shiester_miester> my friend knows how
[08:32] <shiester_miester> he knows everything
[08:33] <macogw> tsairox_: well at least its a txt...i can view those
[08:33] <shiester_miester> he has a website
[08:33] <shiester_miester> www.google.com
[08:33] <macogw> tsairox_: its complaining about java
[08:33] <numus> first let me figure out how to uninstall kiba
[08:33] <Jordan_U> shiester_miester, My fried is a Linux specialist
[08:33] <n2diy> shiester_miester: your buddies with google!? Me too.
[08:33] <goldfingermafia> anyone know a good aim client
[08:33] <tsairox_> right. and i have the latest version installed
[08:33] <shiester_miester> Jordan_U, does he have a website too?
[08:33] <Jordan_U> shiester_miester, google.com/linux
[08:33] <shiester_miester> heheheh
[08:33] <macogw> tsairox_: i dont have java installed and pretty sure lynx wouldnt use it anyway
[08:33] <brazjol> hello
[08:33] <Frogzoo> Jordan_U: deep fried?
[08:34] <macogw> tsairox_: why do i need java for a txt file?
[08:34] <shiester_miester> Jordan_U, my friend knows your friend!
[08:34] <macogw> goldfingermafia: gaim/pidgin
[08:34] <macogw> goldfingermafia: if you need video, kopete
[08:34] <n2diy> goldfingermafia: you might be using it now?
[08:34] <brazjol> can someone help me out? i'm having a little problem with my linux installation
[08:34] <macogw> tsairox_: ooooo
[08:34] <nevhood> what was that i just entered?
[08:34] <shiester_miester> Jordan_U, that google/linux link actually looks to be pretty useful
[08:34] <nevhood> virtual console orw hatever?
[08:34] <macogw> tsairox_: uh i was dumb
[08:34] <shiester_miester> when im looking for ubuntu-related things
[08:34] <Jordan_U> brazjol, Ask and you shall receive ( or not depending :)
[08:34] <nevhood> i pressed the combo and ended up at a dos screen
[08:34] <macogw> tsairox_: "sudo update-alternatives java" i think
[08:34] <Flannel> !anyone | brazjol
[08:34] <ubotu> brazjol: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:34] <macogw> tsairox_: right now it's looking at ubuntu's default java
[08:34] <tsairox_> macogw:  huh? I posted the results as a text file for easier reading
[08:35] <macogw> tsairox_: i got confused
[08:35] <macogw> tsairox_: i thought it was lynx complaining, didnt realize that was it
[08:35] <Layer8> hi!
[08:35] <nevhood> So...
[08:35] <tsairox_> macogw: i'll try your command now
[08:35] <Jordan_U> neverblue, Never call Bash DOS ;)
[08:35] <nevhood> When Ubuntu freezes
[08:35] <macogw> tsairox_: i think thats the syntax...
[08:35] <nevhood> What should you do?
[08:35] <Jordan_U> neverblue, try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[08:35] <shiester_miester> nevhood, you ended up at a terminal, not dos screen :P
[08:36] <nevhood> hah
[08:36] <notserpe> your linux specialist sucks more than he used to.
[08:36] <shiester_miester> Jordan_U, nevhood != neverblue
[08:36] <tsairox_> macogw:  update-alternatives: unknown argument `java'
[08:36] <Layer8> guys, I installed a self compiled kernel...now the restricted modules manager claims that there is a missing package "restricted-modules" for this kerne...how can I solve this?
[08:36] <brazjol> i backed up my xorg.conf, then i added some things based on a tutorial i was reading to set up dual-head for my system, since for some reason linux was only showing up on my secondary monitor, and i'd rather have it on both or on my primary. so i rebooted and then the x-win wouldn't load, and now i have no way of editing xorg.conf and it says the backup i created doesn't exist
[08:36] <macogw> tsairox_: ok
[08:36] <nevhood> Jordan_U: So you type that into the virtual terminal when the computer freezes?
[08:36] <Layer8> guys, I installed a self compiled kernel...now the restricted modules manager claims that there is a missing package "restricted-modules" for this kerne...how can I solve this?
[08:36] <macogw> tsairox_: lemme see how it's *really* supposed to be typed
[08:36] <shiester_miester> brazjol, can you boot in recovery mode?
[08:37] <tsairox_> macogw: ok
[08:37] <Jordan_U> nevhood, If you want to try restarting X, yes
[08:37] <brazjol> yes but it only goes to a console and it won't let me edit the file without an interface
[08:37] <nevhood> Jordan_U: Sorry, I just started Ubuntu today - what's "X"?
[08:37] <Jordan_U> nevhood, You can do whatever you want though, it is a full bash shell ( which is MUCH more powerful than DOS )
[08:37] <macogw> tsairox_: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[08:37] <Jordan_U> nevhood, The graphics subsystem, the GUI basically
[08:38] <tsairox_> macogw: ill try now
[08:38] <nevhood> Jordan_U: alright
[08:38] <shiester_miester> well the GUI is actually gnome/kde
[08:38] <macogw> tsairox_: if you intend to do any java programming, you should do the same thing replacing "java" with javac
[08:38] <shiester_miester> but x controls ALL the graphics
[08:38] <notserpe> btw, searching goog/linux doesn't make you a linux specialist it makes you a linuxmonkey.
[08:38] <nevhood> Jordan_U: and to start the virtual terminal... what was the key combo again?
[08:38] <Jordan_U> nevhood, ctrl+alt+F1
[08:38] <macogw> tsairox_: for the heck of it, do it with jar where you typed java as well so that if you get a java program packaged as a jar you can run it
[08:38] <AfterDeath> Are ubuntu LiveCDs still available?
[08:38] <Jordan_U> AfterDeath, Yes
[08:38] <nevhood> Jordan_U: thanks
[08:38] <macogw> AfterDeath: yes, download from ubuntu.com
[08:38] <Jordan_U> nevhood, np
[08:39] <macogw> AfterDeath: or get one from shipit
[08:39] <AfterDeath> Is it just the regular install cd?
[08:39] <Jordan_U> AfterDeath, Yes
[08:39] <macogw> AfterDeath: desktop cd is the live cd
[08:39] <shiester_miester> nevhood, very useful is this pair of commands: ctrl+alt+f1 and ctrl+alt+f7.  the first takes you to a terminal, the second takes you back to the X server
[08:39] <brazjol> is there any way to edit xorg.conf from the terminal?
[08:39] <macogw> AfterDeath: text installer is alternate
[08:39] <macogw> brazjol: nano
[08:39] <nevhood> thanks shiester_miester!
[08:39] <Godnonbe1iever> brazjol: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:39] <shiester_miester> yeah they are fantastic
[08:39] <Jordan_U> AfterDeath, The text based install CD is now called the "alternate" CD
[08:39] <AfterDeath> oic
[08:39] <nevhood> just pulled it off
[08:39] <nevhood> so....
[08:39] <brazjol> ok thanks
[08:40] <nevhood> i have one last question to ask, my friends
[08:40] <shiester_miester> nevhood, especially when the user interface freezes up and some full-screen app hogs the whole monitor and you cant do anything, you can kill it in that terminal
[08:40] <AfterDeath> so the "normal" one is both install + livecd?
[08:40] <shiester_miester> and then just go right back
[08:40] <macogw> AfterDeath: yes
[08:40] <macogw> tsairox_: news?
[08:40] <AfterDeath> ok, cool
[08:40] <brazjol> how do i set which monitor ubuntu uses? it wants to use my secondary, how do i change it?
[08:40] <AfterDeath> thanks
[08:40] <Jordan_U> nevhood, Though X really shouldn't be crashing, what GPU do you have?
[08:40] <nevhood> shiester_miester: that's great, i'll use that from now on
[08:40] <Fezzler> Firefox freezes when attempting to load and play You Tube clip.  Was working.
[08:40] <shiester_miester> nevhood, yeah also, take a look at these http://www.linuxhowtos.org/Tips%20and%20Tricks/sysrq.htm
[08:40] <nevhood> Jordan_U: ATI Radeon XPRESS 200
[08:41] <bruenig> Fezzler, flash is buggy, happens like that
[08:41] <numus> with the avant one
[08:41] <shiester_miester> nevhood, those are also extremely useful when something breaks severely
[08:41] <numus> how do i remove the task section
[08:41] <Jordan_U> nevhood, That explains it, ATI hates linux
[08:41] <numus> i just want launchers
[08:41] <tsairox_> macogw:  you are beautiful!  It worked this is why i love the linux community so much!  I have been trying for a week. The stars aligned tonight.  Dinner coffe?
[08:41] <nevhood> Jordan_U: haha shoot
[08:41] <macogw> tsairox_: its in the "how to install java" thing
[08:41] <Jordan_U> nevhood, In the future stay with intel and nvidia for good linux drivers
[08:41] <nevhood> Jordan_U: that must explain why the splash screen is a bunch of flickers
[08:41] <shiester_miester> numus, you can't, its meant to be a window navigator :P  if you just want launchers, use the launcher plugin that comes with gdesklets
[08:41] <macogw> tsairox_: on ubuntu wiki and on ubuntuguide
[08:41] <nevhood> Jordan_U: good idea
[08:42] <nevhood> Jordan_U: i'm getting a laptop soon anyway
[08:42] <tsairox_> macogw: oh?
[08:42] <numus> damn
[08:42] <nevhood> Jordan_U: I'll stay away from ATI then
[08:42] <shiester_miester> numus, gdesklets is great softwaer
[08:42] <Jordan_U> nevhood, dell.com/ubuntu :)
[08:42] <brazjol> does anyone know how to change which monitor ubuntu uses? it doesn't seem to recognize my primary
[08:42] <bruenig> adesklets is better than gdesklets I think
[08:42] <numus> ya i liked the funny stuff in kiba though
[08:42] <nevhood> Jordan_U: yes!  i've seen that
[08:42] <macogw> tsairox_: help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[08:42] <nevhood> One final question
[08:42] <tsairox_> macogw:  Thanks again!
[08:42] <nevhood> since the splash screen is giving me so much trouble
[08:42] <collision4> anyone able to help with wifi on a clean install on macbook?
[08:42] <nevhood> how can i disable it?
[08:42] <shiester_miester> numus, but gdesklets is also in the repos, so you can just go "sudo apt-get install gdesklets gdesklets-data"
[08:42] <n2diy> haulin_coal: ??? In EPa?
[08:42] <numus> i have it
[08:43] <shiester_miester> numus, you can use kiba if u want, but imo its inferior to avant + gdesklets
[08:43] <Jordan_U> collision4, Check the wiki, there is a very comprehensive page on macbooks
[08:43] <macogw> nevhood: "sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[08:43] <macogw> nevhood: go to the # defoptions line
[08:43] <collision4> error on making: http://pastie.caboo.se/77575
[08:43] <brazjol> guess nobody knows
[08:43] <bruenig> adesklets are more configurable and cleaner and less memory intensive
[08:43] <macogw> nevhood: delete "splash" and save it
[08:43] <shiester_miester> brazjol, yeah
[08:43] <shiester_miester> brazjol, your video drivers should provide you with a way to do it
[08:43] <collision4> @Jordan_U - have followed instructions to the t, no go
[08:43] <bob_sinclair> what to do when sudo apt-get upgrade returns Segmentation fault (core dumped) ?
[08:44] <shiester_miester> brazjol, what video card?
[08:44] <brazjol> how do i change the video driver settings within ubuntu, then?
[08:44] <brazjol> i have an nvidia geforce 6800
[08:44] <shiester_miester> brazjol, have you installed the nvidia drivers?
[08:44] <macogw> brazjol: do you have a gui at all?
[08:44] <brazjol> not at the moment, no, cause i messed up my xorg.conf and it won't load, and doesn't recognize the backup i created
[08:44] <Jordan_U> brazjol, Have you installed the nvidia drivers with Restricted Manager?
[08:44] <shiester_miester> brazjol, that sucks
[08:45] <brazjol> yes, they were working fine before until i tried to change the settings to do a dual-monitor setup
[08:45] <macogw> brazjol: do you have another computer with internet off of which you can read directions?
[08:45] <numus> k i need to go to bed
[08:45] <m0> is switching screens ( from laptop to secondary device such as TV) easy in ubuntu?
[08:45] <macogw> brazjol: oh
[08:45] <numus> night
[08:45] <brazjol> yes, it's downstairs
[08:45] <brazjol> on this system i have a dualboot with XP and ubuntu though
[08:45] <brazjol> so i'm using XP at the moment
[08:45] <macogw> brazjol: ok dual monitor i have no idea....the edgy directions for nvidia drivers work on feisty is all i was gonna say
[08:45] <Jordan_U> brazjol, gksudo nvidia-settings
[08:46] <nevhood> macogw: so delete splash and leave "quiet"?
[08:46] <macogw> nevhood: yeah
[08:46] <nevhood> macogw: thanks!
[08:46] <Jordan_U> nevhood, That will give you some beutifull geek text at boot :)
[08:46] <brazjol> thanks
[08:46] <brazjol> so if i use sudo nano it will let me change my xorg.conf back?
[08:46] <macogw> brazjol:  yes
[08:46] <nevhood> Jordan_U: haha sweet... just like the old days
[08:47] <macogw> nevhood: if only the text was green
[08:47] <Jordan_U> brazjol, xorg.conf is just a text file, you can back it up like any other file and restore it
[08:47] <nevhood> macogw: haha yup
[08:47] <brazjol> yes i thought i did back it up but apparently not
[08:47] <numus> how come gdesklets aren't showing up on all my workspaces
[08:48] <EADG_> nevhood: I think if you replace "quit' with "verbose" you get even more geek text.
[08:48] <jerkface03> Does anyone know of any online guides or books available that can get me started on linux/ubuntu development?
[08:48] <shiester_miester> numus, not sure, but i have the same thing happening on mine.  they only seem to appear on the first one
[08:48] <brazjol> i did sudo cp /etc/x11/xorg.conf_backup /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[08:48] <ben_> hi all, does anyone know how i can install the latest version of mono on dapper?
[08:48] <shiester_miester> numus, i think thats just how its made :P
[08:48] <macogw> bruenig: is there a way to make the nerdy startup text green when you disable splash?
[08:48] <Flannel> jerkface03: what sort of stuff you looking to do?  (what you trying to make?)
[08:48] <brazjol> and then when it wouldn't work i tried to replace the file with the backup but it couldn't find the file
[08:49] <nevhood> EADG_: haha i think i have enough!
[08:49] <numus> naa it is random
[08:49] <jerkface03> Nothing in particular, just looking to learn about coding stuff on linux. Like stuff specific to linux.
[08:49] <shiester_miester> numus, i think its because the only things that span multiple workspaces are the panels for your UI
[08:49] <shiester_miester> numus, its the same reason why all your other apps only run on one monitor
[08:49] <shiester_miester> *one workspace
[08:49] <m0> jerkface03: make ui's?
[08:49] <bruenig> macogw, I could do that in my current distro, not sure how to do it in ubuntu
[08:49] <macogw> shiester_miester: well you can set a window to show on all
[08:49] <m0> jerkface03: or just console based?
[08:49] <apocalypticunion> does the word moist seem somewhat pornographic to you?
[08:49] <jerkface03> Like win32 is an api set specific to windows, I'm sure linux/ubuntu has an api set specific to linux/ubuntu
[08:49] <macogw> bruenig: whats your current?
[08:49] <Frogzoo> jerkface03: find a project you like, and apt-get source package  - then read the code
[08:49] <bruenig> arch
[08:50] <Flannel> jerkface03: Well, there's really nothing specific to linux.  A good deal (all the langauges, and a good deal of toolkits) are cross platform.
[08:50] <shiester_miester> macogw, you could probably do the same with gdesklets then
[08:50] <brazjol> thanks a lot for the help guys, i'm going to try to fix this
[08:50] <brazjol> later
[08:50] <numus> k
[08:50] <bruenig> macogw, It was white and I needed to make it gray so that I could see it when I did the stuff from the white terminal when I was logged in
[08:50] <numus> it is because SOME gdesklets are showing up in the windowsbar
[08:50] <jerkface03> Flannel: what about things like device drivers?
[08:50] <Flannel> jerkface03: No, there really isn't.  gtk, qt, [more and more]  are all OSS, and as such, most have windows ports.
[08:50] <shiester_miester> apocalypticunion, nope, it could also be used to describe algae or this bowl of grapes i have here
[08:50] <macogw> apocalypticunion: nope, makes me think of an old sponge on the kitchen sink that's turned all funny colored and smelly
[08:50] <numus> the other isnt that is the one that is on all workspaces
[08:50] <numus> oh well
[08:50] <EADG_> macogw: I tried that a few months ago, could only change the "messages & errors" colors, not the system stuff.
[08:50] <macogw> bruenig: white terminal?
[08:50] <bruenig> macogw, white back ground and black text
[08:51] <macogw> bruenig: whyd it get like that?
[08:51] <bruenig> macogw, the text was white and so you couldn't see it
[08:51] <shiester_miester> lol macogw, we have different interpretations of the word
[08:51] <apocalypticunion> shiester_miester, macogw: thats kinda  reepy
[08:51] <shiester_miester> sif it is
[08:51] <m0> is it easy for me to switch from GNOME to KDE?
[08:51] <macogw> apocalypticunion: why?
[08:51] <shiester_miester> apocalypticunion, so its not creepy to think its referring to someones privates?
[08:51] <bruenig> macogw, I set it white because in vim syntax highlight, comments are this really dark blue and I would always not be able to see it
[08:51] <macogw> m0: log out, go to sessions, pick the other
[08:51] <shiester_miester> imho its MORE creepy that you give words an initially sexual meaning :P
[08:51] <fastcars_19> is there an app or code that will start pings and logs those pings to a file
[08:52] <macogw> m0: to install kde, install the kubuntu-desktop package
[08:52] <Flannel> jerkface03: ah, you're looking for kernel hacking stuff, yeah.  That stuff would be linux specific, but even then, you're sort of abstracted away from most of the linux you know.  But yeah, I suppose that would be linux specific
[08:52] <macogw> bruenig: you can :set background=dark
[08:52] <apocalypticunion> macogw: i dunno, im eating astromboli
[08:52] <m0> macogw: aha alright that is what I needed thanks
[08:52] <macogw> bruenig: and then the syntax highlighting will be colored for on dark monitors
[08:52] <apocalypticunion> shiester_miester depends on whos privates
[08:52] <shiester_miester> apocalypticunion, anybodies :P
[08:52] <apocalypticunion> shiester_miester: meh
[08:52] <jerkface03> Flannel: ya exactly. So are there any books or guides out there?
[08:52] <bruenig> macogw, the blue is technically able to be seen, like right now on white, I have the same problem with light yellow
[08:52] <fastcars_19> can someone help
[08:53] <shiester_miester> fastcars_19, maybe
[08:53] <bruenig> so it probably doesn't matter which one you use, there will always be some problem
[08:53] <goldfingermafia> how do i being up a file and edit it in the terminal
[08:53] <fastcars_19> is there an app or code that will start pings and logs those pings to a file
[08:53] <Typwn> Hello all.
[08:53] <shiester_miester> gday Typwn
[08:53] <Flannel> jerkface03: well, you'll need to know C/C++, and yeah, there are plenty of resources on the internet.  I think kernel.org has a hacking howto
[08:53] <shiester_miester> fastcars_19, yes there is
[08:53] <m0> If I switch to KDE would my Beryl Change?
[08:53] <macogw> bruenig: if you set it to say background=dark it uses all light-colored syntax highlighting
[08:53] <bruenig> macogw, ok I will try that
[08:53] <macogw> bruenig: you can change the syntax colors in your .vimrc too
[08:53] <shiester_miester> fastcars_19, you can possibly send the output of "ping" into a file
[08:54] <shiester_miester> hey guys, how do you send the output of one thing as the input of another?
[08:54] <macogw> bruenig: i fiddle with my vimrc a bunch :p i just wanna find a way to make it highlight the variable names though...make it easier to track them when coding
[08:54] <Flannel> jerkface03: http://www.linuxchix.org/content/courses/kernel_hacking/  is the first google result for 'kernel hacking' and looks to be a pretty good intro, from a cursory glance, that is.
[08:54] <fastcars_19> can you provide me a code or a link to how to do that
[08:54] <macogw> shiester_miester: backticks
[08:54] <macogw> shiester_miester: or pipe
[08:54] <shiester_miester> can i do "ping www.asdf.com > /home/me/Desktop"
[08:54] <m0> shiester_miester: as parameters? piping?
[08:54] <Typwn> I'm trying to install Azereus, but I'm not sure how to go about doing it. It's just an executable script thing that I have to run from a folder. Is there a way I can have in in the system and just have a shortcut on the desktop without it asking me what to do with the script when I run it? (Run in Terminal, Display, Run, etc)
[08:54] <shiester_miester> m0, yeah those things
[08:54] <macogw> shiester_miester: ex: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -a`
[08:54] <shiester_miester> but i forgot which operator it is
[08:55] <jerkface03> kk, thanks. I'm pretty new to linux :X
[08:55] <shiester_miester> is it | or > or <
[08:55] <m0> shiester_miester: then use >
[08:56] <shiester_miester> and whats the command to write to a file?
[08:56] <shiester_miester> so i can use ping to write into a file
[08:56] <shiester_miester> was it echo?
[08:56] <towlieba> what does the line vga=790 in the boot commands do exactly ?
[08:56] <EADG_> shiester_miester: you had it.
[08:56] <macogw> shiester_miester: can be
[08:56] <m0> shiester_miester: yes , ping www.google.com > myfile.txt
[08:56] <macogw> shiester_miester: cat works too i think
[08:56] <MajorPayne> When writing an email in nano the line wraps is great.  But if I add text to a previous line it gets out of whak and I have to press ctrl-j to re justify the text.  Is there a way that I can have nano automadicly justify the text for me after making changes to various lines?
[08:56] <goldfingermafia> can someone tell me what i type to bring up a file fomr the terminal and edit it?
[08:56] <Flannel> towlieba: it defines the resolution of your TTYs
[08:56] <macogw> m0: you can do it plain like that?
[08:57] <towlieba> just the terminal ?
[08:57] <fastcars_19> and i want it to log a the time too
[08:57] <Flannel> towlieba: yes, just the TTYs
[08:57] <m0> macogw: yes
[08:57] <m0> macogw: just pipes everythign to a file
[08:57] <macogw> m0: i do that as "echo `ping x.x.x.x` >> file.txt"
[08:57] <Typwn> I'm trying to install Azereus, but I'm not sure how to go about doing it. It's just an executable script thing that I have to run from a folder. Is there a way I can have in in the system and just have a shortcut on the desktop without it asking me what to do with the script when I run it? (Run in Terminal, Display, Run, etc) Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
[08:57] <EADG_> goldfingermafia: sudo nano /path/to/file.txt
[08:57] <shiester_miester> meh i give up
[08:57] <macogw> Typwn: is that just teh installer?
[08:58] <shiester_miester> fastcars_19, its definitely possible
[08:58] <Typwn> macogw: it downloaded as a tarball, then the script is in the extracted folder. That's about it.
[08:58] <m0> macogw: try it :) ls > hey.txt
[08:58] <shiester_miester> fastcars_19, i got up to figuring this part out: "ping www.website.com | /path/to/file"
[08:58] <shiester_miester> but i dunno if it works
[08:58] <shiester_miester> fastcars_19, maybe you use > instead of |
[08:58] <macogw> Typwn: i think thats an installer
[08:58] <m0> shiester_miester: use what I told you ... ping www.google.com > file.txt
[08:58] <shiester_miester> i dunno...im not good at all this terminal stuff :P
[08:59] <shiester_miester> m0, that doesnt appear to work
[08:59] <macogw> Typwn: why the tar though?
[08:59] <macogw> Typwn: its in the repos
[08:59] <shiester_miester> m0, oh wait, yes it does
[08:59] <shiester_miester> you have to be in the directory
[08:59] <m0> if you need help on terminal try the #linux or #bash chans :p
[08:59] <EADG_> shiester_miester: hehe you don't see anything untill you open the txt file.
[08:59] <Typwn> macogw: I'm not that experienced with Ubuntu or Linux in general, so...yeah that would be why I'm trying to tar it. Where would I get it in the repo?
[08:59] <shiester_miester> EADG, thats not what i meant, earlier it was giving me errors
[08:59] <chand|> hi
[08:59] <shiester_miester> but i must have had the syntax wrong
[09:00] <shiester_miester> chand|, gday
[09:00] <fastcars_19> ok now how about by the time with the ping too
[09:00] <macogw> Typwn: go to add/remove and it should be in there
[09:00] <chand|> anyone on gutsy ?
[09:00] <towlieba> ive got a problem. im running ubuntu in a virtual machine (parallels) and when i view the vm in full screen with ubuntu at 1280x800 resolution everything looks fine but when the vm isnt in full screen mode (where its just a window) i cant see anything without scrolling using the scroll bars. does anyone know how to fix this ?
[09:00] <macogw> chand|: #ubuntu+1
[09:00] <chand|> macogw: thx
[09:00] <Typwn> macogw: add/Remove?
[09:00] <macogw> Typwn: in the applications menu
[09:00] <macogw> Typwn: at the end of the list
[09:00] <Typwn> macogw: Doh, stupid me. lol thanks.
[09:01] <brazjol> hey
[09:01] <brazjol> thanks a lot guys, that worked
[09:01] <brazjol> working great now
[09:01] <fastcars_19> i want to log the times with the pings too
[09:01] <EADG_> brazjol: you got duel monitors set up now?
[09:01] <macogw> Typwn: if it's not in there go to system > admin > software sources and enable universe if it's disabled
[09:02] <brazjol> Yeah. i got it to work, but with the way i have my monitors set up it's inconvenient because it opens new windows in the center, and my monitors aren't right next to each other, so it's somewhat annoying
[09:02] <brazjol> so i just disabled it anyway
[09:02] <bruenig|laptop> macogw, appreciate the tip, very nice, I prefer the white on black
[09:02] <shiester_miester> anyone here use skype?
[09:02] <macogw> brazjol: what window manager?
[09:02] <shiester_miester> in ubuntu, obviously
[09:02] <brazjol> i don't know, default
[09:03] <brazjol> i'm pretty new to linux
[09:03] <macogw> bruenig|laptop: np. found it when poking at my vimrc after someone else went and customized it to their likes :P
[09:03] <brazjol> gnome i guess?
[09:03] <fastcars_19> hello i want to log the times with the pings like when they was sent and received back
[09:03] <macogw> brazjol: thatd be metacity
[09:03] <Typwn> macogw: Ah, BitTorrent is already installed. I guess that will work, I'm just used to Azereus.
[09:03] <Typwn> macogw: Thanks though ^^
[09:03] <brazjol> what's metacity?
[09:03] <macogw> brazjol: i dont know if metacity has a window placement setting
[09:03] <macogw> brazjol: its the window manager that is there by default in gnome
[09:03] <brazjol> ah
[09:03] <brazjol> well it's no big deal
[09:04] <brazjol> how do i change the window manager?
[09:04] <bruenig|laptop> it does seem to use a limited number of colors so it isn't as helpful but the only real use syntax highlight has had for me is to make sure I closed my quotes and parenthesis and such and it does that
[09:04] <macogw> bruenig|laptop: showmatch?
[09:04] <shiester_miester> Typwn, you can use azureus in ubuntu
[09:05] <macogw> bruenig|laptop: i noticed showmatch is only good when you type the closing parenthese and it highlights the opening one...but if you cursor back over it, it wont rehighlight the first one. know a trick to make it do that on every cursor-over?
[09:05] <Typwn> shiester_miester: i know, but I'm having trouble setting it up.
[09:05] <macogw> bruenig|laptop: if cursor isnt what you call the thing that shows where you're typing without a mouse, pretend i said the right word
[09:05] <bruenig|laptop> macogw, not show much, just sometimes I won't close a string or something and the fact that I see the color all the way down, I know to go up and close it
[09:05] <bruenig|laptop> showmatch*
[09:05] <macogw> Typwn: go to ubuntuguide.org and follow the directions to enable extra repositories first
[09:05] <fastcars_19> shiester_miester: i want to log the times with the pings too
[09:05] <macogw> Typwn: then itll be in add/remove
[09:06] <bruenig|laptop> extra repos are enabled as of feisty by default
[09:06] <macogw> bruenig|laptop: oh the red highlighting?
[09:06] <cap> Is there a way to play windows games (like WoW) on linux?
[09:06] <Typwn> macogw: Alright
[09:06] <macogw> bruenig|laptop: or whatever color it is on a white background if you leave too many brackets in a row open
[09:06] <bruenig|laptop> macogw, whatever it is, just when i see the same color all the way to the end of the program tends to tip me off
[09:06] <macogw> bruenig|laptop: gotcha
[09:06] <beirut> cap, search the forums. you can use wine
[09:06] <bruenig|laptop> granted all I really do is bash, although some really long bash stuff on occasion
[09:07] <Typwn> Also, would anyone know how I can get write access to my windows drive? I can only read it at the moment. Thanks.
[09:07] <cap> beirut:  does your name come from the city or the band?
[09:07] <macogw> cap: transgaming (.org or .com i forget) makes a program called Cedega to let you do it with a bunch of them
[09:07] <macogw> cap: or the game, dont forget the game
[09:07] <beirut> cap: city and a game
[09:07] <macogw> !ntfs-3g | Typwn
[09:07] <ubotu> Typwn: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[09:07] <cap> beirut:  its a cool band too
[09:08] <Typwn> macogw: You always manage to come through. Thanks =)
[09:08] <beirut> cap: i'll have a listen
[09:08] <cap> macogw:  what's the difference with that and wine?
[09:08] <macogw> cap: cedega is a proprietary cousin to wine that is souped up to handle games better. wine is pretty basic
[09:09] <fastcars_19> hello i need help still
[09:09] <Truman_> fastcars_19: hold on a second
[09:09] <fastcars_19> ok
[09:10] <brazjol> hmm... sounds don't seem to be working for me
[09:10] <zenfool> hmm
[09:10] <sgordon> hello everyone
[09:10] <zenfool> Hey sgordon
[09:10] <zenfool> :)
[09:10] <brazjol> is there something i have to do to install sound drivers?
[09:10] <echosystm> guysssss
[09:10] <macogw> brazjol: depends on your sound card
[09:10] <echosystm> minimal install from alt cd
[09:10] <zenfool> what kind of sound card?
[09:11] <echosystm> i cant remember what i need to install
[09:11] <brazjol> my soundcard is a creative audigy
[09:11] <zenfool> Heh
[09:11] <echosystm> i remember the x core
[09:11] <echosystm> xfce-panel
[09:11] <echosystm> beryl
[09:11] <echosystm> and nvidia kernel/drivers
[09:11] <Truman_> fastcars_19: so you need a timestamp with every ping?
[09:11] <echosystm> thats what i need
[09:11] <echosystm> what would be the apt-get command?
[09:12] <zenfool> apt-get what i need :)
[09:12] <fastcars_19> yes and if they pass or fail too
[09:12] <zenfool> hey jnorris, abhi and wb das
[09:12] <macogw> echosystm: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[09:12] <Truman_> you need the timestamp like in standard time?  like 12:21 and 12 seconds?
[09:12] <macogw> echosystm: i'm guessing...if your card is newish
[09:13] <brazjol> how do i install the drivers for a creative soundblaster audigy card?
[09:13] <fastcars_19> yes
[09:13] <echosystm> ok i think i get something like this
[09:13] <pimp31415> OK
[09:14] <Typwn> macogw: Found Azereus in the Add/Remove app. Just had to change the drop down Show: to All available apps.
[09:14] <pimp31415> an ip hammers the b
[09:14] <pimp31415> box
[09:14] <echosystm> apt-get install x-window-system-core xfce-panel beryl beryl-manager thunar nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-glx
[09:14] <echosystm> sound right?
[09:14] <pimp31415> the box bans that ip accessing it on that ip
[09:14] <pimp31415> where do i find it?
[09:14] <macogw> echosystm: do you not have any X at all right now?
[09:14] <pimp31415> add in emerald-themes echosystm
[09:14] <echosystm> no its an alt install
[09:14] <echosystm> oh yeah!
[09:14] <echosystm> forgot that one
[09:14] <macogw> echosystm: alt-install installs a GUI if you tell it to
[09:14] <pimp31415> thunar? thats a fm?
[09:15] <echosystm> yep
[09:15] <pimp31415> ah
[09:15] <Jordan_U> macogw, I think he wants a minamalist setup
[09:15] <macogw> Jordan_U: minimalist with beryl?
[09:15] <pimp31415> you might go with icewm instead of xfce-panel
[09:15] <pimp31415> and consider rox-filer instead of thunar
[09:15] <pimp31415> ultra light
[09:15] <echosystm> icewm doesnt sit with beryl
[09:15] <pimp31415> but yeah i dont think it worx with beryl
[09:15] <pimp31415> ya
[09:15] <echosystm> and i hate rox :D
[09:15] <pimp31415> me2
[09:15] <pimp31415> i should try thunar
[09:15] <pimp31415> XD
[09:15] <pimp31415> so install xterm
[09:15] <echosystm> ok
[09:15] <echosystm> so
[09:16] <pimp31415> and menu menu-xdg
[09:16] <echosystm> nvidia-kernel-common whatever
[09:16] <echosystm> AND nvidia-glx are both needed
[09:16] <echosystm> ?
[09:16] <Jordan_U> macogw, Don't expect me to understand his logic :)
[09:16] <echosystm> or just nvidia-glx?
[09:16] <pimp31415> nvidia-glx will pull it in
[09:16] <echosystm> oh right
[09:16] <echosystm> cool
[09:16] <echosystm> and then its... um
[09:16] <macogw> echosystm: what are you going for exactly?
[09:16] <pimp31415> just start with that
[09:16] <pimp31415> decide if you want a dm
[09:16] <echosystm> whats the nvidia xconfig thing?
[09:16] <pimp31415> like gdm / kdm etc
[09:16] <echosystm> i forget
[09:16] <macogw> echosystm: because this whole barely anything there thing sounds like "i have a 10 year old box that cant run anything" but then you want beryl...
[09:16] <pimp31415> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:16] <Jordan_U> echosystm, nvidia-settings
[09:16] <Truman_> fastcars_19: Hmm, I know that -T tsonly and -T tsandaddr both add timestamps of a sort, but I don't think it's what you're looking for
[09:17] <pimp31415> nvidia-settings is IN the glx package
[09:17] <pimp31415> they are mutually incompatable
[09:17] <echosystm> nvidia-xconfig
[09:17] <echosystm> thats it right?
[09:17] <echosystm> comes with the driver
[09:17] <goldfingermafia> how do i correctly install my madwifi drivers, my internet is working but it is not reconized by other devices
[09:17] <Jordan_U> echosystm, They both come with nvidia-glx
[09:17] <echosystm> oh right
[09:17] <echosystm> ok
[09:18] <pimp31415> nvidia-bug-report.sh  nvidia-settings
[09:18] <pimp31415> nvidia-glx-config     nvidia-xconfig
[09:18] <macogw> yes i rebutted myself, no one ask
[09:18] <Tama00> Im having trouble making ubuntu install packages off the DVD instead of off the net
[09:18] <pimp31415> all four of em come with it
[09:18] <echosystm> thanks
[09:18] <Tama00> its kinda frustrating lol
[09:18] <echosystm> ok now
[09:18] <echosystm> i will have xfce-panel
[09:18] <Tama00> cause i have such slow internet..
[09:18] <echosystm> and beryl
[09:18] <pimp31415> macogw, the devs for that are a friend of a friend
[09:18] <echosystm> installed
[09:18] <pimp31415> how is it
[09:18] <CyberphaZ> man installing ati is so much more annoying then nvidia :S
[09:18] <fastcars_19> Truman_ is there an app that can do this
[09:18] <echosystm> what do i need to add to make them run when i startx?
[09:18] <pimp31415> os[Linux 2.6.22-7-386 - Debian lenny/sid - Ubuntu DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu ( http://www.ubuntu.com )]  | up[9 minutes]  | cpu[AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+, 1665.280 MHz (3333.6 bogomips) at 40.0C]  | chipset[VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8375 [KM266/KL266]  Host Bridge]  | video[nVidia Corporation NV44A [GeForce 6200]  (rev a1) at 1920x1440 (32 bits)]  | opengl[GeForce 6200/AGP/SSE/3DNOW! powered by NVIDIA Corporation with driver 2.1.0 NVIDIA 96.31]  | xchat[Version: 2.8.2]  | [
[09:18] <pimp31415> sysinfo-dg 1.1-DocTrax_1.46] 
[09:18] <pimp31415> does it compair to this stats?
[09:18] <macogw> pimp31415: i dint get it from the site
[09:18] <pimp31415> echosystm, what wm?
[09:18] <Tama00> i went into software sources and added the dvd but when i install programs it just always seams to get it off the net!
[09:18] <Truman_> fastcars_19: None that I know off of the top of my head, unfortunately  .. you might try google, I guess
[09:18] <Tama00> grrrr
[09:18] <echosystm> beryl
[09:18] <Truman_> fastcars_19: what do you need it for?
[09:18] <macogw> pimp31415: just uninstalled gnome and all then install fluxbox
[09:18] <pimp31415> macogw, ah
[09:19] <echosystm> just beryl and xfce-panel
[09:19] <echosystm> noting else
[09:19] <macogw> pimp31415: i thought maybe it could handle gnome ok
[09:19] <pimp31415> window.manager
[09:19] <pimp31415> just beryl eh
[09:19] <pimp31415> so it should autostart i would think
[09:19] <echosystm> ok
[09:19] <pimp31415> just go for it worst case youll have a cli interface
[09:19] <Jordan_U> pimp31415, Wow, 9 minute uptime :)
[09:19] <pimp31415> lol Jordan_U
[09:19] <macogw> pimp31415: shouldnt he get xdm?
[09:19] <echosystm> and i add xfce-panel how?
[09:19] <pimp31415> i just brought it back from a friends
[09:19] <pimp31415> macogw, first that thing sux
[09:19] <pimp31415> and second no
[09:19] <macogw> pimp31415: or whatever the xubuntu login thing is
[09:19] <macogw> pimp31415: or does that use gdm?
[09:20] <pimp31415> doesnt need it what he;s doing
[09:20] <pimp31415> xdm i think
[09:20] <pimp31415> i just dont like the xdm package
[09:20] <macogw> pimp31415: oh ok
[09:20] <echosystm> nah not runing xdm or dgm
[09:20] <pimp31415> i much prefer gdm actually
[09:21] <fastcars_19> Yruman_ i have an isp that says my internet outages is cause by hardware but not by their hardware so i am going to test my hardware
[09:21] <macogw> a year on linux and i still worry my computer's going to catch something from that whore, MySpace
[09:21] <pimp31415> size1.95GB	uploaded214.44GB	downloaded1.95GB	ratio110.132 <<-- hehe i love torrents lots :D
[09:21] <fastcars_19> Truman_ i have an isp that says my internet outages is cause by hardware but not by their hardware so i am going to test my hardware
[09:21] <pimp31415> macogw, you should be worried
[09:21] <pimp31415> that place is almost as bad as efnet
[09:21] <Anubis> lol
[09:21] <pimp31415> :P
[09:21] <Anubis> myspace
[09:21] <pimp31415> btw
[09:21] <Anubis> easy lay
[09:21] <ferronica> from where i can get AZUREUS for ubuntu Fiesty Fawn ?
[09:21] <pimp31415> for broken places like myspace and youtube try flock
[09:21] <macogw> ferronica: add/remove
[09:22] <pimp31415> ferret, you want to do the manual one
[09:22] <macogw> ferronica: tell it to show all available software
[09:22] <bruenig|laptop> ferronica, haven't the slightest idea why you would want that garbage, but sudo apt-get install azureus
[09:22] <pimp31415> the one from the repos doesnt put its icon in the system tray
[09:22] <ferronica> pimp31415: yes
[09:22] <pimp31415> let me get you the guide link its easy
[09:22] <Gun_Smoke> bruenig|laptop: What client do you use?
[09:23] <macogw> i wish i could torrent
[09:23] <macogw> but it's too slow on wifi
[09:23] <bruenig|laptop> utorrent and now deluge on my laptop
[09:23] <macogw> and wired connection cant handle high throughput
[09:23] <Jordan_U> macogw, I wish wifi were the bottleneck on my net connection :)
[09:23] <uyohm> Hi ! Does anyone know of a program to batch-convert .AIFF sound files to .WAV files ?
[09:23] <fastcars_19> Truman_ that is why i need it
[09:24] <Tama00> how do you get the package manager to download off the DVD not the internet?
[09:24] <macogw> Jordan_U: well, i can torrent in class on wifi just fine, but its slow. if i try to do it wired, i get disconnected constantly because sky2 is a crappy driver
[09:24] <Tama00> i understand this is possible as it was in debian
[09:24] <pimp31415> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_P2P_BitTorrent_Client_.28Azureus.29
[09:24] <pimp31415> use that
[09:24] <bruenig|laptop> Tama00, apt-cdrom I think
[09:24] <pimp31415> the alternative method
[09:24] <pimp31415> works in edgy/feisty/etc
[09:24] <macogw> Jordan_U: "in class" because no wifi in dorm
[09:24] <Truman_> fastcars_19: I gotcha
[09:24] <pimp31415> and btw azureus is fixed in gutsy
[09:24] <pimp31415> XD
[09:24] <macogw> bruenig|laptop: yeah apt-cdrom add
[09:24] <pimp31415> ithink
[09:24] <Tama00> bruenig|laptop, i see.. is there any way to use it in the add/remove programs thing?
[09:24] <pimp31415> o no not tried it in gutsy
[09:24] <bruenig|laptop> Tama00, not sure never used that
[09:25] <EADG_> uyohm: poke around on www.ubuntuessentials.com (or net) I saw a converter there a few days ago.
[09:25] <Tama00> wait i got something going
[09:25] <Jordan_U> pimp31415, I can check, what was broken about it?
[09:25] <pimp31415> Tama00, yeah its possible reenable that line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:25] <ferronica> pimp31415: http://azureus.sourceforge.net/download.php
[09:25] <ferronica> pimp31415: from here ????
[09:25] <pimp31415> Jordan_U, run az and the icon doesnt show in the notice tray
[09:25] <macogw> Tama00: if you disconnect from the net and then after the "sudo apt-cdrom add" you "sudo apt-get update" itll only show stuff that's on the cd/dvd
[09:25] <Tama00> pimp31415, good:)
[09:25] <pimp31415> ferret, yeah
[09:25] <bruenig|laptop> java on the scale of azureus is so frustrating
[09:25] <pimp31415> er ferronica yeah
[09:25] <Gun_Smoke> I can't believe how long this upgrade is taking..  And the time it gives me to compleation is WAY off. It's been at 7 minutes for almost an hour..
[09:25] <Tama00> macogw, yeah thats cool
[09:26] <pimp31415> btw ferronica
[09:26] <pimp31415> youll do better installing wine and utorrent
[09:26] <Tama00> i just wanna use the dvd for all the big stuff cause my internet is really slow
[09:26] <pimp31415> 99% of the time
[09:26] <adamonline47> How would I find out which version of MySQL I'm using?
[09:26] <pimp31415> and the other 1% use bittornado-gui
[09:26] <macogw> bruenig|laptop: why's that? just because java == vm == slow or something else?
[09:26] <oscar> i need some help, hopefully its something quick and simple; trying to get fiesty going with an x800gto the install was done running off the onboard videocard and now i want to add my x800, but i just get black after grub when i try and boot with it installed
[09:26] <ferronica> pimp31415: i did but how to install it in system
[09:26] <bruenig|laptop> it is slow and bloated even on fast computers it is laggy and just crap
[09:27] <ferronica> pimp31415: everytime i have to use ./configure to run it
[09:27] <pimp31415> ok ferronica see the guide where it says alternate install?
[09:27] <pimp31415> ah you got it in? this is the easy bit!!
[09:27] <Jordan_U> macogw, vm==memory hog, poor optimization makes it slow
[09:27] <macogw> bruenig|laptop: please explain to my school's CS department that we need to know more than just java
[09:27] <pimp31415> right click and edit menu [above applications] 
[09:27] <macogw> Jordan_U: when you run out of memory and start swapping, that's slow
[09:27] <pimp31415> on left column click on internet
[09:28] <Jordan_U> macogw, True, didn't realize that it was that bad :)
[09:28] <pimp31415> on right side click in there
[09:28] <ferronica> pimp31415: where ??
[09:28] <bruenig|laptop> macogw, java is great as a concept and is easy to use as a high level language for coding for corporations and such but on gui it just is sad and slow
[09:28] <macogw> Jordan_U: big programs could be i suppose
[09:28] <macogw> bruenig|laptop: 1-language-only, regardless of language, is a bad plan in my mind
[09:28] <RickH> Can anyone help me (or point me to help) for a glib problem?
[09:29] <macogw> bruenig|laptop: some languages are just *better* for some things
[09:29] <Gun_Smoke> I started to read a bit about python today.. Never tried programing before.  Easy to pick up quickly?
[09:29] <bruenig|laptop> macogw, true
[09:29] <macogw> Gun_Smoke: executable pseudocode
[09:29] <bruenig|laptop> just use bash
[09:29] <bruenig|laptop> bash is fun
[09:29] <macogw> Gun_Smoke: python reads like it's english pretending to be code
[09:30] <ferronica> pimp31415: where ??  :(
[09:30] <Gun_Smoke> macogw: So you don't like it.
[09:30] <RickH> I'm getting:  "*** 'pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0' returned 2.13.6, but GLIB (2.12.11)
[09:30] <RickH>  was found!"
[09:30] <fastcars_19> does anyone else have an idea for me
[09:30] <bruenig|laptop> python is still better than java
[09:30] <macogw> Gun_Smoke: nice and easy!
[09:30] <Gun_Smoke> Ah
[09:30] <bruenig|laptop> I would shudder to see a java media player, yet exaile, runs quite nicely
[09:30] <Jordan_U> macd, java is good for teaching oo programming though, and that is the point of most programming courses, not to make you a good programmer
[09:30] <echosystm> can someone explain to me what xgl is?
[09:30] <echosystm> and hwo it is related to beryl?
[09:30] <Anubis> gui
[09:31] <bruenig|laptop> !xgl | echosystm
[09:31] <ubotu> echosystm: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:31] <Jordan_U> echosystm, A hack that is only needed for ATI cards :)
[09:31] <macogw> Gun_Smoke: i'm using it for a backend on a shopping cart thing (just the price totalling part, it hands off to paypal) and didnt know any before i started writing it
[09:31] <echosystm> oh ok
[09:31] <echosystm> so if i just install x-server-core
[09:31] <echosystm> or whatever
[09:31] <echosystm> and nvidia-glx
[09:31] <bruenig|laptop> echosystm, #ubuntu-effects
[09:31] <echosystm> i dont need xgl?
[09:31] <toed> how do I switch from metacity to sawfish?
[09:31] <bruenig|laptop> !enter | echosystm
[09:31] <ubotu> echosystm: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:31] <Typwn> I have my windows drive mounted and I can read the drive, but I can't write to it. How do I change those permissions?
[09:31] <Jordan_U> echosystm, Yes, AIGLX is bult into xorg
[09:31] <macogw> echosystm: xgl is for ati
[09:31] <gerro> anyone know how to only display third party repositories in synaptic?
[09:31] <toed> I don't see the metacity process anywhere
[09:31] <bruenig|laptop> toed, killall metacity && sawfish
[09:31] <echosystm> ok thanks
[09:32] <xoRock> default user & group VS user & group in ADD/Remove, what is the different and better
[09:32] <Gun_Smoke> macogw: wow.. Well I'm going to give it a try here one of these days.
[09:32] <RickH> Typwn:  Google "Ubuntu NTFS writing"
[09:32] <ReK_> im having trouble setting up beryl. it loads, but the windows manager doesnt work
[09:32] <macogw> Typwn: mount it with the ntfs-3g thing
[09:32] <Jordan_U> !ntfs-3g | Typwn
[09:32] <ubotu> Typwn: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[09:32] <macogw> Gun_Smoke: its a very easy first-language
[09:32] <Typwn> macogw: I tried, but it can't find it in the list even after I enabled everything
[09:33] <RickH> Typwn:  Google for it, then install it.
[09:33] <macogw> Gun_Smoke: i mistakenly got "python for absolute beginners" after already knowing a bit of vb and java, so i gave it to a beginner friend and he said it was great
[09:33] <RickH> It's a .deb install and will load itself.
[09:33] <macogw> Typwn: what?
[09:33] <Gun_Smoke> macogw: Whats a good how to?
[09:33] <Jordan_U> Typwn, And I would argue that googleing first is actually a bad idea with all of the horrible ubuntu blogs, always check the official documentation first
[09:33] <macogw> Typwn: you installed it like the directions said, right?
 gah sorry about that
 anyway on left click internet and on right click on any of hte things in there
 then press new menu item
 and browse to it
[09:34] <pimp31415> <-- Poul^Laptop has quit ("Ex-Chat")
 sorry i forgot which nick was asking about azureus but whoever that was gah
[09:34] <pimp31415> ferronica, yeah
[09:34] <pimp31415> you rite?
[09:34] <RickH> Jordan_U:  For newbies, official documentation sources aren't always known.
[09:34] <macogw> Gun_Smoke: well that's a good book according to the kid i gave it to. i use a python reference book instead of that since i just need a syntax reference, but thatd be a good one for beginning to code since it explains how everything works
[09:34] <Typwn> macogw: The directions say to enable universe repo (which I did) and install the ntsf-config pack. Which I can't find
[09:34] <macogw> Typwn: ntfs, not ntsf
[09:34] <macogw> Typwn: try it with the command line maybe
[09:34] <pimp31415> ntfs-3g :D
[09:34] <ferronica> pimp31415: what
[09:34] <macogw> Typwn: it's there
[09:34] <Typwn> macogw: Right, I just typoed there.
[09:34] <macogw> Typwn: sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g ntfs-config
[09:34] <pimp31415> ferronica, you were doing the azureus?
[09:35] <RickH> Can anyone help with this:  "*** 'pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0' returned 2.13.6, but GLIB (2.12.11) was found!" ??
[09:35] <Gun_Smoke> macogw: I was looking for more web content.  I don't really plan on throwing any money at the idea.
[09:35] <pimp31415> needed to make a menu for it?
[09:35] <ferronica> pimp31415: yes
[09:35] <macogw> Gun_Smoke: python.org then
[09:35] <macogw> Gun_Smoke: i think its .org
[09:35] <macogw> Gun_Smoke: there's a ton of online documentation for it
[09:35] <ferronica> pimp31415: everytime i have to use ./configure to run it
[09:35] <xoRock> default user & group VS user & group in ADD/Remove, what is the different and better
[09:35] <pimp31415> ferronica, scroll up
[09:35] <Typwn> macogw: Thanks, that worked.
[09:35] <pimp31415> right click on applications
[09:35] <ferronica> pimp31415: okay
[09:35] <pimp31415> select edit menu
[09:35] <pimp31415> then click on internet
[09:35] <macogw> Gun_Smoke: i noticed c++ has a lot too (good for me as i have one of the rare non-java classes next year...it's non-java because it's not required)
[09:35] <pimp31415> then click on right hand side
[09:36] <pimp31415> then click new item or so
[09:36] <pimp31415> and browse to the executable
[09:36] <pimp31415> :)
[09:36] <pimp31415> its in /opt/azureus/azureus
[09:36] <pimp31415> or so
[09:36] <macogw> bruenig|laptop: sad that at my school you can figure out which classes let you use something other than java by making sure it's not on the required list, eh
[09:36] <macogw> ?
[09:36] <Gun_Smoke> macogw: Yeah, I started reading some stuff there.
[09:37] <macogw> bruenig|laptop: they're almost mutually exclusive
[09:37] <collision4> fixing res on macbook - "sudo software-properties -e universe" gives command not found for software-properties
[09:37] <kraut> moin
[09:37] <macogw> bruenig|laptop: except for a tiiiiiny bit of c in comp archs 1
[09:37] <collision4> way to install it or something?
[09:37] <Gun_Smoke> Configuring mdadm.. What do I want to do here?  I have no idea.
[09:37] <Jordan_U> collision4, System -> Administration -> Software-sources
[09:37] <Gun_Smoke> Just go with all?
[09:38] <collision4> sorry
[09:38] <collision4> net interrupted
[09:38] <collision4> any ideas?
[09:38] <kwtm> How do I downgrade to an earlier version of a program (such as KTorrent) that had been automatically upgraded but now no longer works?
[09:38] <Jordan_U> collision4, They took out the cli interface for it, which I don't like, it was useful for tutorials
[09:38] <ReK_> can anyone help me with getting beryl working? it runs, but the window manager doesnt work
[09:38] <pimp31415> collision4, much better to edit by hand if you ask me
[09:38] <pimp31415> !source-o-matic
[09:38] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:39] <pimp31415> ReK_, right click and cloes the ruby
[09:39] <pimp31415> open a terminal
[09:39] <kwtm> ReK_: I got beryl working.  Maybe I can help.  What happens?
[09:39] <pimp31415> type in: beryl-manager
[09:39] <Jordan_U> pimp31415, You say to edit by hand then you link to source-o-matic ?
[09:39] <pimp31415> thats gonna show what you need to change
[09:39] <collision4> @pimp31415: link for editing by hand?
[09:39] <pimp31415> Jordan_U, of course :)
[09:39] <pimp31415> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:39] <Jordan_U> pimp31415, How is that "by hand" ?
[09:39] <pimp31415> or gedit or kate or or or
[09:39] <macogw> ReK_: beryl IS a window manager, so i'm not sure how one can work and not the other
[09:39] <pimp31415> Jordan_U, because 1.you gotta c/p it
[09:39] <pimp31415> 2. i take all bullcrapolaish out
[09:39] <Jordan_U> pimp31415, And that is better because...
[09:40] <kwtm> ReK_, macogw: I wonder if ReK_ actually means the Window Decorations?
[09:40] <pimp31415> cleaner easier to read == easier to modify and deal with
[09:40] <pimp31415> every one of my installs needs several extra repos and i prefer not to have an ugly conf file
[09:40] <ReK_> macogw: no, window manager. there's no title bar, cant move the windows, etc
[09:40] <Gun_Smoke> is it normal to be hit with  debconf something or other when upgrading?
[09:40] <macogw> pimp31415: why not use the ones on ubuntuguide.org? its just main, universe, multiverse, canonical commercial, backports, and medibuntu
[09:41] <pimp31415> macogw, sure thats a good start :)
[09:41] <n2diy> pimp31415: why, your the only one that will ever see the config file, no?
[09:41] <macogw> ReK_: do the windows have borders?
[09:41] <collision4> pimp31415: is there a tutorial on what i need to fix, or is it just a line?
[09:41] <ReK_> macogw: no
[09:41] <macogw> pimp31415: what do you need other than that?
[09:41] <kwtm> ReK_: When you right-click on the red gem, it should give you a menu including "reload window decorator".  Try that.
[09:41] <pimp31415> !paste
[09:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:41] <macogw> ReK_: if you hold alt and click on a window and drag can you move it?
[09:41] <ReK_> macogw: ive had to switch to the gnome window manager to use the desktop
[09:41] <pimp31415> and macogw dont forget restricted
[09:41] <ReK_> macogw: no
[09:42] <kwtm> ReK_: If that doesn't work, try opening the Emerald Theme Manager.  And, btw, that title bar thing, not being able to move the window, etc. is window decorator.  Window manager is where you actually have windows on your screen.  *That's* working, I'm sure.
[09:42] <macogw> ReK_: gnome is desktop environment. metacity is its window manager. beryl is another window manager that most people run with gnome. dont try to run it alone or you wont have a menu to open up any programs
[09:42] <pimp31415> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29333/ <<-- my sources in gutsy
[09:42] <ReK_> yeah i can see the window contents itself
[09:42] <ferronica> pimp31415: okay done thanx :)
[09:42] <pimp31415> note its CLEAN
[09:42] <macogw> pimp31415: forgot that, but its on there
[09:42] <pimp31415> ferronica, no problem
[09:42] <ReK_> macogw: what do i do in the theme manager
[09:43] <macogw> ReK_: pick one
[09:43] <collision4> @pimp31415: this is for fixing resolution?
[09:43] <pimp31415> macogw, sure and i'm sure its quite nice - does it have the opera stuff? the bleeding edge wine stuff? my alltray stuff? my beryl stuff?
[09:43] <pimp31415> no.
[09:43] <pimp31415> collision4, eh?
[09:43] <collision4> sorry
[09:43] <collision4> did you give a link earlier for resolution?
[09:43] <pimp31415> my edgy list has more stuff and im not digging it out for a sec
[09:43] <macogw> pimp31415: ah ok...source-o-matic is for the nuts people :p
[09:43] <Typwn> Is there a way to change default programs for supported file types?
[09:43] <pimp31415> resolution? no but whats your situation lets get you fixed up collision4
[09:43] <n2diy> pimp31415: ah, your playing with Gutsy, no wonder you want clean configs.
[09:43] <pimp31415> macogw, w/e
[09:43] <ReK_> macogw: nope, still no titlebars
[09:44] <pimp31415> n2diy, i like em clean no matter what
[09:44] <collision4> trying to fix res on macbook, just installed ubuntu
[09:44] <macogw> pimp31415: i thought it listed everything and you said you get rid of crapola so i thought that meant you delete the unnecessary repos
[09:44] <pimp31415> ever look at the default config? its got crap
[09:44] <pimp31415> macogw, no the commented out stuff
[09:44] <kwtm> If no one knows how to downgrade a .deb package to an earlier version (assuming that I have the .deb file stored on the hard drive), can someone point me to a web site where I might find out?
[09:44] <collision4> res is at 1048 * 760 instead of native 1280 * 800
[09:44] <pimp31415> the extra lines for universe and multiverse seperately etc
[09:44] <macogw> pimp31415: the source debs?
[09:44] <dawn`chorus> Typwn, yes.  change "opens with" via File Browser.
[09:44] <pimp31415> kwtm, can you take the other one out first?
[09:44] <ReK_> macogw: wait, how do i select it? i dont see an apply button or anything once i have it selected
[09:44] <macogw> kwtm: "sudo dpkg -i --force-downgrade package.deb"
[09:45] <macogw> ReK_: the ok button is all there is
[09:45] <kwtm> macogw: Thanks!  Will try.
[09:45] <macogw> ReK_: it applies as soon as you select it
[09:45] <pimp31415> kwtm, dpkg --force -i package.deb
[09:45] <pimp31415> try that
[09:45] <Typwn> dawn`chorus: Hmm.. for some reason it can't add Azereus to the Application Database
[09:45] <macogw> kwtm: of course replace package.deb with the proper one
[09:45] <pimp31415> lol gah macogw knowz
[09:45] <ReK_> macogw: i dont see an ok button, just quit
[09:45] <Jordan_U> collision4, Just so you know, a right click is three fingers in Ubuntu by default, not two
[09:45] <macogw> ReK_: ok then that's it
[09:45] <ReK_> macogw: ok then it didnt work
[09:46] <macogw> ReK_: it applies when you pick it and there is no cancel. you could hit the X and thatd do it
[09:46] <collision4> oh
[09:46] <aznpridechinese> can we play games under linux?
[09:46] <macogw> ReK_: what window decorator is selected?
[09:46] <Jordan_U> !games | aznpridechinese
[09:46] <ubotu> aznpridechinese: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[09:46] <macogw> aznpridechinese: depends what game you mean
[09:46] <ReK_> macogw: the only option, standard beryl (emerald)
[09:46] <macogw> aznpridechinese: windows ones? with cedega or wine
[09:46] <macogw> aznpridechinese: linux ones? yes
[09:46] <dawn`chorus> Typwn, rigth click on a file with the filetype you want to reassociate (.torrent?) and choose "+Add" in the "Opens With" tab.
[09:46] <kwtm> aznpridechinese: You're kidding, right?  Of course you can play games.  I just ran across a web page about games on Linux.
[09:46] <aznpridechinese> like the windows games
[09:46] <macogw> ReK_: reload window decorator?
[09:46] <collision4> no
[09:46] <macogw> aznpridechinese: some of them
[09:47] <Jordan_U> aznpridechinese, Some yes, some no
[09:47] <aznpridechinese> which ones?
[09:47] <pimp31415> ok here's my edgy souces: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29334/
[09:47] <n2diy> aznpridechinese: yes, this is the coolest game on earth, right here.
[09:47] <ReK_> macogw: no effect whatsoever
[09:47] <pimp31415> note its nice and clean :D
[09:47] <macogw> aznpridechinese: some of them are available for linux too, like unreal tournament puts them on the same disk
[09:47] <Jordan_U> !appdb | aznpridechinese
[09:47] <ubotu> aznpridechinese: Appdb is a database of apps & help for programs that run under wine: see http://appdb.winehq.org
[09:47] <dawn`chorus> Typwn, i meant, right click > Properties > opens with > +Add
[09:47] <Typwn> dawn`chorus: I understand that, but I'm recieving an error where it can not put Azereus into the app database.
[09:47] <kwtm> aznpridechinese: Try this: http://kahvipapu.com/blog/2007/06/16/linux-gaming-part-one-first-person-shooters/
[09:47] <macogw> aznpridechinese: frets on fire is a good linux "guitar hero,"  battle for wesnoth for a turn-based strategy game
[09:47] <dawn`chorus> Typwn, what error?
[09:48] <kwtm> aznpridechinese: That's a first in a four-part series about Linux games.  I'm not talking about dorky games like Four-In-A-Row, either.  I'm talking first-person shooters, Civilization, Unreal Tournament, massively multiplayer online games, etc.
[09:48] <macogw> aznpridechinese: oh, and because i love Bejeweled and on Windows you have to pay for it, i have to point out that gweled is a free "bejeweled" clone for linux
[09:48] <Typwn> dawn`chorus: "Could not add application" "Could not add application to the application databse."
[09:48] <Tama00> i got the cd going still does alot of software packages over the net but
[09:48] <macogw> aznpridechinese: quake and doom are linux native too
[09:49] <pimp31415> macogw, please never say you HAVE TO just say your supposed to or should
[09:49] <macogw> kwtm: it's doom right?
[09:49] <Jordan_U> aznpridechinese, Though if you like dorky games ( and I do ) try xmoto, it is more addicting then WoW :)
[09:49] <Tama00> i guess this is the best i can do...
[09:49] <macogw> pimp31415: ok fine
[09:49] <pimp31415> consider the number of copys of pirated windows out there
[09:49] <pimp31415> lol its only a request tho :D
[09:49] <Gun_Smoke> I can't believe the upgrade is complete.. Only took 4.5 hours.
[09:49] <macogw> pimp31415: wait whats that have to do with pirated windows?
[09:49] <pimp31415> everything
[09:49] <pimp31415> if theres a lot of copies of that
[09:49] <pimp31415> how many pirated copies of games are there?
[09:49] <pimp31415> zillions?
[09:49] <pimp31415> :D
[09:50] <macogw> pimp31415: cuz the same people that pirate windows will pirate bejeweled off of msn games?
[09:50] <pimp31415> <<--- doesnt game, moot point
[09:50] <pimp31415> macogw, sure why not
[09:50] <kwtm> macogw: It's more than one game.  It's Neverwinter Nights, Warsow, Sauerbraten, Nexuiz, Tremulous, Wolfenstein, and of course, Doom 3, Quake 4, and Unreal Tournament.
[09:50] <Jordan_U> macogw, How they make so much on a game that is so easy to code amazes me
[09:51] <kwtm> Jordan_U: What's xmoto?
[09:51] <pimp31415> bah
[09:51] <pimp31415> a great game is that one for the xbox - ummmmm
[09:51] <Jordan_U> kwtm, A 2D motocross game
[09:51] <pimp31415> which is also on msn games
[09:51] <macogw> kwtm: oh i know there are many
[09:51] <Jordan_U> !info xmoto | kwtm
[09:51] <ubotu> kwtm: xmoto: 2D motocross platform game. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.4-2 (feisty), package size 633 kB, installed size 1684 kB
[09:51] <macogw> kwtm: doom and quake are made by the same company though, right?
[09:51] <macogw> kwtm: i always lump them in my head
[09:51] <pimp31415> ah hexic hd
[09:51] <pimp31415> thats awesome :D
[09:52] <aznpridechinese> i have to say the graphics i saw on that website is terrible....
[09:52] <dawn`chorus> Typwn, $whereis azureus
[09:52] <n2diy> hmmm, looks like the ops are letting us run loose tonight? Cool.
[09:52] <xoRock> what is the best archive manager with GUI?
[09:52] <xoRock> what is the best archive manager with GUI?
[09:52] <Typwn> azereus:
[09:52] <bruenig|laptop> xoRock, calm down
[09:52] <macogw> xoRock: file roller works fine
[09:52] <bruenig|laptop> xoRock, tar unzip unrar ar etc.
[09:53] <Typwn> dawn`chorus: Says azereus:
[09:53] <macogw> bruenig|laptop: those have guis?
[09:53] <bruenig|laptop> Typwn, typo
[09:53] <xoRock> thx
[09:53] <dawn`chorus> Typwn, isn't it spelled "azureus".
[09:53] <bruenig|laptop> macogw, guis are boring'
[09:53] <kwtm> ubotu, you think you know everything, don'cha???  Huh?????? harrumph!
[09:53] <RickH> Jordan_U:  any idea where I can go to get help with my glib problem?  I'm googling... but to no avail.
[09:53] <macogw> bruenig|laptop: he specified with gui
[09:53] <Typwn> dawn`chorus: Ah one sec
[09:53] <Jordan_U> RichardL_, What is the problem?
[09:53] <Typwn> bruenig|laptop: Now you know why I have this name =P
[09:53] <n2diy> hmmm, looks like the ops are playing too, very cool.
[09:54] <Typwn> dawn`chorus: azureus: /usr/bin/azureus /usr/X11R6/bin/azureus /usr/bin/X11/azureus /usr/share/azureus /usr/share/man/man1/azureus.1.gz
[09:54] <bruenig|laptop> wow
[09:54] <Jordan_U> n2diy, ?
[09:54] <xoRock> bruenig|laptop, file roller doen't unrar
[09:54] <bruenig|laptop> that is one hell of a path you got there
[09:54] <n2diy> Jordan_U: game support is OT, no?
[09:54] <xoRock> atlist that what it says in add/remove prog
[09:54] <bruenig|laptop> xoRock, I didn't recommend that, take it up with gui guy
[09:54] <Typwn> Not sure what it means.
[09:54] <RickH> Jordan_U:  Is "RichardL" me?
[09:54] <macogw> bruenig|laptop: there's multiple paths there...
[09:55] <Jordan_U> RichiH, Yes, sorry
[09:55] <RickH> np
[09:55] <bruenig|laptop> macogw, oh he did whereis, I thought he did which
[09:55] <macogw> xoRock: you didnt specify rar, just archives
[09:55] <bruenig|laptop> that would be one bizarre which output
[09:55] <macogw> xoRock: back to the command line with you
[09:55] <RickH> I'm trying to install GTK+-2.10.13, and I get a message that glib 2.13.6 is returned from pkg-config --modversion, but that 2.12.11 is found.
[09:56] <macogw> xoRock: install unrar and to use it, type "unrar thethingyouhave.rar"
[09:56] <RickH> Jordan_U:  I've tried everything I can think of to resolve this, and I have no ideas.
[09:56] <n2diy> Jordan_U: game support is OT, no? But at this time of night, here in NA, I don't care, it's fun.
[09:56] <xoRock> i dont like command too much since im a newbies
[09:56] <xoRock> but thx
[09:56] <macogw> xoRock: thats not a hard command
[09:57] <bruenig|laptop> xoRock, well how do you expect to get out of newbness if you don't use commands
[09:57] <bruenig|laptop> I think it is unrar e by the way
[09:57] <xoRock> it isnt hard, but takes time when file is under heavy subfolder
[09:57] <dawn`chorus> Typwn, when you add, try "Use a custom command" and use /usr/bin/azureus.
[09:57] <macogw> xoRock: unrar <-- what you want it to do - what you want it to do it to --> thing.rar
[09:57] <bruenig|laptop> xoRock, cd
[09:57] <bruenig|laptop> macogw, unrar e
[09:57] <macogw> bruenig|laptop: ?
[09:57] <bruenig|laptop> unrar e file.tar
[09:57] <bruenig|laptop> file.rar
[09:57] <Typwn> dawn`chorus: No dice
[09:58] <lgp> Hi,all
[09:58] <xoRock> macogw, yes i do know how to cd folder in command, but im looking something like 7zip in windows
[09:58] <macogw> bruenig|laptop: whats the e for? i dont recall having to use it...
[09:58] <bruenig|laptop> macogw, extract
[09:58] <xoRock> so its easier to unrar things
[09:58] <Jordan_U> !ops
[09:58] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[09:58] <bruenig|laptop> !that ended so fast
[09:58] <Myrtti> hm
[09:58] <r0b-> lol
[09:58] <fusheh> That looks fun.
[09:58] <bruenig|laptop> the script must have crapped out
[09:58] <bruenig|laptop> oh they are pouring in still
[09:58] <Hobbsee> !staff
[09:58] <ubotu> Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, BearPerson or ompaul! I could use a bit of your time :)
[09:59] <macogw> bruenig|laptop: i think it does that automatically...the difference between rar and unrar
[09:59] <Hobbsee> !staff
[09:59] <yondie> how do i configure my pcmcia wireless device as an access point?
[09:59] <macogw> did they go away?
[09:59] <fusheh> lol =o
[09:59] <Hobbsee> no
[09:59] <kwtm> xoRock: I don't know if anyone's answered your question about archive managers.  I use Ark, which is actually a KDE program.  You can install it on Ubuntu --it
[10:00] <xoRock> kwtm, thx i'll look into it
[10:00] <dawn`chorus> Typwn, seems others are having same issue on the forums.  i'm at a dead end.  try searching through the bugs @ bug.ubuntu.com (should be forwarded)>
[10:00] <macogw> ah!!!
[10:00] <macogw> now are they all gone?
[10:00] <kwtm> xoRock: It's just that it will also install a bunch of KDE libraries, so if that's the only KDE program you're using, it will take up a bunch of space.  But if you have other KDE programs running, then those other programs will use the KDE libraries anyway, so you might as well install them.
[10:00] <fusheh> That was cute.
[10:01] <macogw> ok if it's the troll time of night, it's the mackenzie-goes-to-sleep time of night
[10:01] <Polygon89> i have a question about ntfs-3g, do you think its safe to use the instructions on this page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009&highlight=ntfs-3g%2C+howto      even though its written / the repos are for edgy?
[10:01] <macogw> good night everybody
[10:01] <Deviad> Hello
[10:01] <fusheh> macogw: gnite!
[10:01] <Flannel> !ntfs-3g | Polygon89
[10:01] <ubotu> Polygon89: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[10:01] <xoRock> Kwtm, how about cd dvd burner like nero, is there any like that?
[10:01] <yondie> Polygon89, it`s safe
[10:02] <yondie> most guide are generic
[10:02] <Jordan_U> !ntfs-3g | Polygon89 Always try the wiki first :)
[10:02] <ubotu> Polygon89 Always try the wiki first :): ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[10:02] <Deviad> Can anyone pls tell me how to do act keycode 116 like Mode_switch if pressed along with keycode 115 and Super_L if pressed alone?
[10:02] <kwtm> macogw: Hey, thanks for the advice on downgrading.  How do I "pin" the version so that the updater doesn't keep bugging me that "Hey, you can upgrade to a newer version, you know"?
[10:02] <yondie> meaning they are not version specific
[10:02] <Polygon89> Flannel, i know dont give me what i already know
[10:02] <Deviad> In Xmodmap I mean
[10:02] <kwtm> xoRock: Funny you say that --today I found out that there *is* Nero for burning CD Roms.
[10:02] <Polygon89> i know what it is, dont give me the wiki page if i ask a specific question....
[10:02] <Flannel> Polygon89: As of feisty, ntfs-3g is in universe, it's omst likely that the edgy guides ARE obsolete.
[10:02] <r0b-> lol
[10:02] <r0b-> :)
[10:03] <xoRock> kwtm, lol* i mean open source dud
[10:03] <Flannel> Polygon89: however, that page gives the steps for getting it working in Feisty, which is why I gave it to you
[10:03] <Polygon89> yondie, thx
[10:03] <kwtm> xoRock: Let me find the web site for you.  However, you might as well use K3b, which is the KDE CD burner.  I hear it's better than Gnome-toaster, but I haven't tried Gnome-toaster.
[10:03] <kwtm> xoRock: K3b is one of the programs known for its user friendliness.  (AmaroK is another.)
[10:03] <xoRock> kwtm, dud thx i appreciate tat
[10:03] <brazjol> hey guys, back again
[10:03] <brazjol> still having weird monitor trouble
[10:04] <bruenig|laptop> I like graveman it is a good burner
[10:04] <kwtm> xoRock: But if for some reason you'd rather pay $25 for a program, you can check out http://www.linux.com/feature/115215 which is a review of Nero.
[10:04] <bruenig|laptop> no not nero
[10:04] <kwtm> xoRock: Apparently you can download a working version that asks you for money after 30 days.
[10:04] <bruenig|laptop> why would you want that
[10:05] <TwizzTid> wtf is with ubuntu
[10:05] <Deviad> :\
[10:05] <TwizzTid> and its stupid ass african bullshit
[10:05] <Deviad> Can anyone pls help me?
[10:05] <brazjol> i'm getting this error now: ERROR: Invalid display device DFP-0 specified on line 19 of configuration
[10:05] <brazjol>        file '/root/.nvidia-settings-rc' (the currently enabled display
[10:05] <brazjol>        devices are CRT-1 on anthony-desktop:0.0).
[10:05] <TwizzTid> just get to the fucking point
[10:05] <dawn`chorus> !ops | TwizzTid
[10:05] <bruenig|laptop> !ot | TwizzTid
[10:05] <ubotu> TwizzTid: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[10:05] <ubotu> TwizzTid: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:05] <bruenig|laptop> come on now
[10:05] <bruenig|laptop> give him a change to get to off topic
[10:05] <xoRock> kwtm, na, i stick with open source, kinda love it this way, im d/l ing k3b right now
[10:05] <bruenig|laptop> gees, so quick
[10:05] <dawn`chorus> bruenig, you should've seen what he did in #gentoo.
[10:05] <Burgundavia> Hobbsee: any fun to be had?
[10:05] <Hobbsee> Burgundavia: bots, too.
[10:05] <Burgundavia> ah
[10:05] <Hobbsee> Burgundavia: as you can see, they keep getting klined
[10:06] <RickH> Jordan_U:  I may have figured it out.  You have to download, configure, MAKE and then MAKE UNINSTALL the old version.
[10:06] <RickH> Jordan_U:  I'm testing that theory right now.
[10:06] <Hobbsee> RickH: what are the rules on freenode abuse?
[10:06] <Hobbsee> RickH: i'm getting notice abuse now
[10:06] <bruenig|laptop> notice abuse is fun
[10:06] <RickH> Hobbsee:  abuse?
[10:06] <Hobbsee> RichardL_: [18:06]  [Notice]  -TwizzTid- nice you fucking asshole good job banning people 5 seconds after they join
[10:06] <Jordan_U> RichiH, That should have no effect on apt
[10:07] <Hobbsee> oops, RichiH ^
[10:07] <RickH> Hobbsee:  I have no idea what you're talking about.
[10:07] <bruenig|laptop> !gtfo | Hobbsee
[10:07] <ubotu> Hobbsee: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:07] <bruenig|laptop> that is still the funniest trigger
[10:07] <bruenig|laptop> so contradictory
[10:08] <RickH> Jordan_U:  That was the fix.  If anyone asks, just configure the old version and then MAKE UNINSTALL.  Found it by googling. :)
[10:09] <Flannel> RickH, Jordan_U, that only works for programs with makefiles that include the 'uninstall' target though
[10:09] <kwtm> Well, thanks for the help.  Bye, all!
[10:09] <RickH> Flannel:  That's good to know.  The problem I had was with glib.
[10:10] <bruenig|laptop> worst attack ever
[10:10] <r0b-> ouch
[10:10] <Hobbsee> bruenig|laptop: this is still minor :P
[10:10] <r0b-> how does it know the person is hacking
[10:10] <bruenig|laptop> it is so failed
[10:11] <dobblego> how can I watch a ISO image as a DVD?
[10:11] <Flannel> !iso | dobblego
[10:11] <ubotu> dobblego: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[10:11] <r0b-> how does it know the person is hacking
[10:11] <Flannel> dobblego: once you've mounted it, it should pretend to be a drive, and watch through whatever you want
[10:12] <dobblego> Flannel, I have mounted it and there is a video_ts and audio_ts directory
[10:12] <Deviad> dooglus, mount it somewhere with mount -t iso9660 I guess
[10:12] <saint-takeshi> hey guys
[10:12] <dobblego> Flannel, "pretend to be a drive"?
[10:12] <Deviad> and next use VLC to play it
[10:12] <dobblego> I am using VLC
[10:12] <Jordan_U> !hi | saint-takeshi
[10:12] <ubotu> saint-takeshi: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[10:12] <Flannel> dobblego: in the video_TS is your files.  Uh, the one without the numeral suffixes is the main file.
[10:12] <dobblego> Flannel, I can play a couple of them, without sound
[10:13] <Flannel> dobblego: can you play DVDs normally?
[10:13] <dobblego> no, my DVD drive has buggered up
[10:13] <dobblego> hence I cannot burn it
[10:13] <Deviad> dobblego, I gave you the solution!!!!!
[10:13] <saint-takeshi> how do you add more desktops? i've only got one and i want 3 or 4...using gnome with beryl, linux mint cassandra (which is basically ubunty feisty configured exactl;y the way the developers of mint like it)
[10:14] <dobblego> Deviad, I have mounted it and tried watching it with VLC already, there is no sound
[10:14] <Deviad> Use mount -t iso9660 /dev/yourdevice /path/to/an/empty/directory
[10:14] <dobblego> Deviad, done that
[10:14] <Deviad> dobblego, then you have a problem with your soundcard
[10:14] <dobblego> you mean -o loop /path/to/iso
[10:14] <estepa> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[10:14] <Hobbsee> !es | estepa
[10:14] <ubotu> estepa: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:14] <dobblego> Deviad, I play the file video_ts/vts_01_1.vob and I hear no sound
[10:14] <Hobbsee> okay, who took that banforward out?
[10:14] <estepa> nooooooooo
[10:15] <Deviad> doudoune_76b, can you hear other sound than that?
[10:15] <Deviad> sounds*
[10:15] <dobblego> erm no
[10:15] <dobblego> someone broke it!
[10:15] <dobblego> *loose
[10:15] <RickH> Anyone know where I can get some help with wine?
[10:15] <Jordan_U> RichiH, #winehq
[10:15] <RickH> Danke.
[10:15] <RickH> :)
[10:15] <Deviad> OK, so if you can't play any sound just have a look at alsa website and see if your card is listed there and if it's compatible or not
[10:15] <Deviad> :)
[10:16] <dobblego> aaah sound :)
[10:16] <dobblego> sorry, my mistake
[10:16] <dobblego> someone broke a wire
[10:16] <Jordan_U> How do I turn mouse gestures off?
[10:16] <Myrtti> hmm, mouse gestures
[10:17] <n2diy> Bad mouse!
[10:17] <Jordan_U> saint-takeshi, It's in beryl-settings something like hsize ( poorly named )
[10:18] <dgrant> anyone else have trouble adding google's feisty repository?
[10:18] <Fyda> saint-takeshi: General Options, Horizontal Vertical Size. Set to 3 or 4.
[10:19] <Fyda> saint-takeshi: ... I meant Horizontal Virtual Size, sorry.
[10:19] <Deviad> pls help
[10:20] <RickH> What is beryl?
[10:20] <SlimeyPete> RickH: it provides an accelerated 3D desktop. It's like Compiz (indeed, these days the beryl and compiz teams have merged)
[10:21] <RickH> Does the nv driver support it? Or do I need the true Nvidia driver?
[10:21] <RickH> SlimeyPete, that was for you, btw. :(
[10:22] <SlimeyPete> RickH: you need the true nvidia driver, as far as I know
[10:23] <RickH> SlimeyPete:  Got it.  I'll have to figure out how to install that next.  It says I need "telinit '3'" or something, and when I do that it reboots.
[10:24] <SlimeyPete> O.o
[10:24] <SlimeyPete> how are you installing? Using the restricted hardware manager?
[10:24] <ReK_> is there a package for the abode acrobat reader plugin?
[10:24] <RickH> Beryl looks neat.  How far along is it in development?
[10:24] <ReK_> RickH: get compiz-fusion instead. the two are recombining and its so easy to install
[10:24] <SlimeyPete> RickH: it's fairly stable. Not perfect yet. Compiz Fusion is the new name (beryl and compiz merged)
[10:24] <RickH> SlimeyPete:  I've tried that, but it says the XServer can't initialize and is at a text-based login prompt.
[10:25] <n2diy> ReK_: you should already have the reader.
[10:25] <RickH> SlimeyPete:  The actual Nvidia driver I downloaded has some manual steps to go through.  I tried Edgey??  A util someone wrote to install Nvidia drivers, but that didn't work either.
[10:25] <ReK_> RickH: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[10:25] <RickH> SlimeyPete:  I'm also running a high-end 8800GTX, which is very new... that might also be why.
[10:26] <SlimeyPete> RickH: ah. Yes, sounds likely.
[10:26] <SlimeyPete> cutting-edge graphics hardware rarely works well under Linux
[10:26] <RickH> Rek_:  Got it.  Thanks.
[10:26] <abhi_> SlimeyPete: who said so?
[10:26] <abhi_> SlimeyPete: Blender is cutting edge
[10:26] <SlimeyPete> abhi_: blender isn't hardware.
[10:26] <abhi_> :)
[10:26] <xoRock> ^^;
[10:26] <abhi_> sorry
[10:27] <SlimeyPete> :)
[10:27] <RickH> I have to say one thing:  I love Ubuntu.  I'm only three days into it, but I love it.  I think I'm done with Redmond, WA. :)
[10:27] <n2diy> abhi_: SlimeyPete, 90% of the problems here are video card related.
[10:27] <abhi_> :)
[10:27] <abhi_> well i guess NVIDIA has good Linux support
[10:27] <ReK_> n2diy: i mean the firefox plugin
[10:28] <abhi_> i can't say the same about ATI
[10:28] <n2diy> abhi_: SlimeyPete, or monitors.
[10:28] <ReK_> or wireless
[10:28] <RickH> NVIDIA has their CUDA libraries working extremely well in Linux.  They release the power of parallel GPU into regular apps.
[10:28] <RickH> If you're a developer it's worth checking out.
[10:28] <n2diy> ReK_: ok, not sure about that?
[10:28] <RickH> Approximately 100x speedup for certain parallel apps which do lots of crunching.
[10:29] <ReK_> when i open a pdf link it saves/opens in the program
[10:30] <echosystm> can someone help me with my Attansic LAN driver?
[10:30] <n2diy> ReK_: what version of Ubuntu? I don't have any trouble opening, or saving and then openind PDFs in Dapper?
[10:30] <echosystm> i'm lost :(
[10:31] <ReK_> n2diy: feisty
[10:31] <crolle17> hello does somebody know how to solve a lock-problem?
[10:31] <crolle17> i mean svn
[10:31] <ReK_> n2diy: it opens them fine, but not inside ff, it opens a new program outside the tab/window
[10:33] <atrayo> Hello. I just installed "Ubuntu Restricted Extras" and when I try to watch a wmv file sent in an email, it still tells me that its an unsupported file. How do I get it to work?
[10:33] <ketrox> atrayo install vlc
[10:34] <atrayo> is vlc also from the Install/Remove applications menu (and should I also uninstall Ubuntu Restricted Extras)?
[10:34] <Deviad> keycode 116 = ISO_Level3_Shift NoSymbol Pointer_Button3
[10:34] <crolle17> need an svn-expert.
[10:34] <Deviad> keycode 115 = Mode_Switch
[10:34] <ketrox> vlc works without plugins
[10:34] <ketrox> so just install it
[10:34] <ketrox> from remove/add
[10:35] <n2diy> Lag?
[10:35] <Deviad> How do I bind keycode 115 to Super_L preserving mode_switch?
[10:35] <Deviad> pls help
[10:35] <atrayo> ketrox thanks, I'll go check that out!
[10:35] <ketrox> 2r1
[10:36] <askand> How can I stop updatemanager from keep telling me about an update I dont want to do?
[10:36] <n2diy> askand: I'd love to know, been trying to figure that out for over a year!
[10:38] <RudyValencia> 'lo, how do I go about setting up my own rudyvalencia.com email, hosted on my server (I've got the domain and a static IP)?
[10:38] <anmol> Guys i was planning to buy a Via chpset based mainboard, to be used with COre 2 duo, somewhere i read in wikipedia that in order to use VT technology we need compatible chipset and bios, is it possible that Via chipset may not be compatible with VT technology ?
[10:38] <anmol> Is there anyone using KVM with VT on a Via based mainboard ?
[10:38] <anmol> chipset in question is P4m900
[10:39] <andrea89> hi
[10:41] <askand> n2diy: hmm..check the answer from Xian here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=43631
[10:42] <thomas_> hi all
[10:43] <thomas_> i have a strange problem with java jar's. i run them with sun-java-6 using java -jar. then, the apps seem to run, but i don't see any of the window's content.
[10:43] <RudyValencia> hm, how do I set up email hosted on my server (I've got a domain and a static IP)?
[10:43] <thomas_> any ideas?
[10:44] <shiester_miester> can someone help me configure a microphone in ubuntu
[10:44] <ruizarias> quien eres
[10:44] <aznpridechinese> anyone know of a 3d snowboarding or skateboarding game for linux? that looks relatively decent?
[10:45] <Anubis> download tonyhawks and emulate it
[10:45] <Zenji> Halp my other Ubunt crasheds!
[10:46] <Zenji> I wanna pull my files from it.
[10:46] <Zenji> How do I do so?
[10:46] <MenZa> I'm trying to run sudo do-release-upgrade (after installing update-manager-core), and it tells me 'current dist not found in meta-release file' (I've upgraded from Dapper to Edgy, and I'm updating to Feisty now). Has anyone seen this happen before?
[10:47] <aznpridechinese> how do i emulate it?
[10:47] <Zenji> Excuse ,e?
[10:47] <aznpridechinese> and where do i download it? cuz it's not a free game
[10:47] <Anubis> wow start reading
[10:47] <shiester_miester> aznpridechinese, well, we don't talk about stuff like that on this channel
[10:47] <RudyValencia> hm, get an N64 and a cartridge of Tony Hawk and play it on that :D
[10:48] <shiester_miester> since thats rather illegal, and this channel is also about support for ubuntu not "letting you play pirated games"
[10:48] <Zenji> I have a question.......
[10:48] <Zenji> ....how can I pull files off of another partition?
[10:48] <Zenji> From Ubuntu?
[10:48] <shiester_miester> aznpridechinese, you can go to #winehq and they will help you in getting emulation in wine working
[10:48] <RudyValencia> Zenji: mount it and then you'll have access to the files
[10:49] <shiester_miester> Zenji, can you just plug in the drive? ubuntu should mount it automatically
[10:49] <Zenji> How do I mount it???
[10:49] <Zenji> What?
[10:49] <Zenji> What drive?
[10:49] <Zenji> I have two partitions.
[10:49] <shiester_miester> the drive you want to get files off
[10:49] <Zenji> My ubuintu crashed.
[10:49] <Zenji> My ubuntu crashed.
[10:49] <Zenji> This is another partition.
[10:49] <shiester_miester> so what do you want to put the files on to
[10:49] <shiester_miester> ok, what OS are you running
[10:49] <Zenji> Ok see.
[10:49] <paras_> channel, is there a way to install vmware-server  simply by apt-get install vmware-server in my 6.60?
[10:49] <Zenji> Listen
[10:49] <RudyValencia> I think he wants to get his files back
[10:49] <Zenji> I have two ubuntu partitions.
[10:49] <Zenji> I want my files back.
[10:49] <kane77> hi, anyone uses embeded terminal in gedit? how can I change background/foreground color of this terminal??
[10:49] <Zenji> My other ubuntu is fucked up.
[10:49] <aznpridechinese> emulate mean i can rung a windows base game in linux?
[10:49] <Zenji> I think I messed up the log on screen
[10:49] <Jordan_U> !language | Zenji
[10:49] <ubotu> Zenji: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:50] <shiester_miester> aznpridechinese, yes
[10:50] <shiester_miester> Zenji, the OS screwing up shouldnt affect the integrity of the data, can't you copy/paste it?
[10:50] <Zenji> I know that but I dont know how.
[10:50] <Zenji> thats what im asking how to do.
[10:50] <Zenji> Im sitting here and dont know how to view my partition.
[10:50] <aznpridechinese> any game i want?
[10:50] <shiester_miester> ok, what OS are you running
[10:50] <Zenji> My other one.
[10:50] <shiester_miester> aznpridechinese, no, not ANY
[10:50] <RudyValencia> how do I set up email hosted on my ubuntu feisty server (I've got a domain and a static IP)?
[10:50] <Zenji> I said ubuntu.
[10:50] <Zenji> I have TWO ubuntus.
[10:50] <Zenji> One is broken
[10:50] <Zenji> This one isnt.
[10:50] <shiester_miester> yes, alright
[10:51] <Zenji> So I want to take my files from the broken Ubuntu and put it here.
[10:51] <Zenji> I dont know how to do that.
[10:51] <Zenji> Where or what to I do to view my other partition.
[10:51] <shiester_miester> ok well i know what you have to do, i just dont know how to do it :P
[10:51] <Jordan_U> Zenji, sudo fdisk -l to find the device name, then: sudo mkdir /yaymyfiles && sudo mount /dev/<device name> /yaymyfiles
[10:51] <Zenji> ...
[10:51] <shiester_miester> you have to mount the other partition and copy the files off it
[10:51] <shiester_miester> aznpridechinese, some things work perfectly, like Diablo 2, and some things dont work at all
[10:52] <Jordan_U> Zenji, When you say you think it is having problems loading the login screen, is X crashing?
[10:52] <Zenji> Ok all I know is that..
[10:52] <Zenji> When I log on.
[10:52] <Zenji> The log in screen wont come up.
[10:52] <Zenji> It just stays with the spinning circle.
[10:52] <Zenji> I think I messed the logon screen up.
[10:52] <Zenji> Cus one of the things I did before logging out was changing my theme for the log on screen.
[10:52] <shiester_miester> Zenji, if you press ctrl+alt+f1 when its loading, it will show you what its doing
[10:53] <Zenji> Yeah but that wouldnt help cus I still wouldnt know what im doing.
[10:53] <shiester_miester> please do that and tell us where it stops, and you might be able to fix it
[10:53] <Jordan_U> Zenji, Login in failsafe mode
[10:53] <Zenji> All I know is that I changed my log on screne.
[10:53] <Zenji> Or the theme.
[10:53] <Zenji> Or splash screen.
[10:53] <Zenji> Whatever they call the ubuntu log on thing.
[10:53] <Zenji> I changed it to the blue theme and now it wont load.
[10:53] <shiester_miester> no but if you find out at which point during the boot it crashes, you can tell us that and we might be able to help you fix it
[10:53] <Zenji> I have to work tommorow so not enough time.
[10:53] <Zenji> I have to be up at 8 AM
[10:54] <Zenji> Its 5 AM
[10:54] <shiester_miester> so do it later?
[10:54] <RudyValencia> brb
[10:54] <Zenji> Thats why im doin this now.
[10:54] <Zenji> Ya
[10:54] <shiester_miester> also, its not tomorrow, you start work in 3 hours :P
[10:54] <Jordan_U> Zenji, Or press ctrl+alt+F1 to get to a terminal,  then run: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop && startx
[10:54] <brazjol> hello
[10:54] <shiester_miester> Jordan_U, thats pretty much what i told him
[10:54] <Jordan_U> Zenji, Then change back whatever theme you installed
[10:55] <Zenji> I didnt install a theme.
[10:55] <shiester_miester> change back from whatever you changed TO
[10:55] <Jordan_U> Zenji, Undo whatever broke it
[10:55] <shiester_miester> Zenji, you won't fix anything unless you TRY
[10:55] <FruitLoop> Anyone know how to make sound work in flash in firefox when the  FIREFOX_DSP="aoss" method doesn't work?
[10:56] <shiester_miester> when it boots, press ctrl+alt+f1 and watch the output for error messages,  eventually it should give you a terminal, type in the command that Jordan_U said
[10:56] <saint-takeshi> hmmm, i don't QUITE understand how xorg.conf works in terms of dual-head. anyone know the name of that GUI that comes with (i think) xubuntu that can autoconfigure dual-head?
[10:56] <Zenji> I went to System>Administrationi> Log In Windows> Local
[10:56] <Zenji> I went to System>Administrationi> Log In Windows> Local
[10:56] <Zenji> Then I picked another theme on it.
[10:56] <shiester_miester> saint-takeshi, envy can autoconfigure xorg.conf
[10:56] <Jordan_U> saint-takeshi, For an nvidia card, nvidia-settings
[10:56] <Zenji> Thats the only thing I can think broke it.
[10:56] <Zenji> I dont know if it is tho.
[10:56] <Zenji> But I cant do it now I have work I just want some of the files back now.
[10:56] <Zenji> Meh
[10:56] <shiester_miester> Zenji, maybe, maybe not.  you wont know unless you have a look
[10:56] <Zenji> Im just gonna go to sleep.
[10:56] <saint-takeshi> ATI card, open driver
[10:56] <shiester_miester> yes you CAN do it, dont just give up
[10:57] <Zenji> No im saying.
[10:57] <Zenji> I HAVE to go to sleep.
[10:57] <shiester_miester> saint-takeshi, well then, you won't be using envy :P
[10:57] <Zenji> I have work.
[10:57] <Zenji> Has nothing to do with that.
[10:57] <shiester_miester> so go to sleep and do it later
[10:57] <Zenji> I said that.
[10:57] <Zenji> :-|
[10:57] <shiester_miester> ok, so what are you still doing here
[10:57] <Jordan_U> shiester_miester, I don't think it is a good idea to recommend installing from nvidia.com as it will break when you upgrade the kernel, and therefore also don't suggest envy
[10:57] <shiester_miester> lol what the crap
[10:57] <shiester_miester> really? :/
[10:57] <shiester_miester> what is the probability that it breaks?
[10:58] <Jordan_U> I hope he realizes that I told him how to get his files before I told him how to fix his other install
[10:58] <shiester_miester> yeah he should try and fix it first
[10:59] <anditosan> do you know of a good and cheap domain seller and web hosting in the us?
[10:59] <FruitLoop> My nvidia breaks everytime the kernel upgrades, but it's easy to fix.
[10:59] <FruitLoop> anyway... how do I make sound work in flash?
[10:59] <Alex_001> how can I change log-in background?
[10:59] <Jordan_U> FruitLoop, By why fix it when the Ubuntu drivers work just fine?
[11:00] <FruitLoop> Jordan_U: cos Ubuntu drivers DON'T work just fine.
[11:00] <shiester_miester> Alex_001, in System -> Administration -> Login Window
[11:00] <Jordan_U> FruitLoop, I guess that is a good reason :)
[11:00] <shiester_miester> yeah my nvidia drivers (installed by envy) work perfectly, even after i upgraded the kernel
[11:00] <saint-takeshi> alex_001; depends on your login manager, but you go to (on the login screen) session > configure login manager > background
[11:00] <Alex_001> where can I get other backgrounds?
[11:00] <Jordan_U> FruitLoop, Restricted Manager didn't work for your card?
[11:00] <shiester_miester> although the ones on my other computer didnt, i couldnt start X
[11:00] <saint-takeshi> oh, or what sheister said
[11:00] <shiester_miester> Alex_001, www.google.com
[11:00] <FruitLoop> Jordan_U: I have 2 older Nvidia cards which don't work without stock ubuntu drivers
[11:01] <Jordan_U> FruitLoop, Did you try Restricted Manager, it is not the "stock" drivers
[11:01] <Jordan_U> ?
[11:01] <yellow_chicken> does ubuntu its own version of rar? or i just synaptic the debian rar?
[11:01] <shiester_miester> Jordan_U, i used that and it broke when i updated...strange, eh?
[11:01] <shiester_miester> on my other computer, which, to be fair, is a piece of junkl; everything breaks
[11:01] <FruitLoop> Jordan_U:Yes, I meant to say restricted drivers - nto stock drivers... 1 card will not work at all and the other has limited support but not full support.
[11:02] <FruitLoop> nto=not
[11:02] <andrew-8665> wwwwwwhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[11:02] <yellow_chicken> let me rephrase, does ubuntu have its own approved rar or i have to use the debian rar version?
[11:02] <FruitLoop> Jordan_U: anyway, the nvidia drivers support both cards fuly with no problems
[11:02] <shiester_miester> can someone please help me with configuring a microphone.  i have it plugged in and have the line-in / mic / recording volumes unmuted, but i cant get anything out of it
[11:03] <FruitLoop> I need some help here with getting sound out of flash in firefox....
[11:03] <saint-takeshi> i think, if NVIDIA cards are as well-supported as i keep being told, i'm gonna buy shares in NVIDIA....it annoys me cos ATI make (basically) as-good hardware, MUCH cheaper, but don't release working drivers, and give up support for old chipsets.
[11:03] <Jordan_U> yellow_chicken, Almost everything is pretty much strait from debian, so your question doesn't make much sense to me
[11:03] <aznpridechinese> does anyone know how to install a sound blaster x-fi extreme driver? i got the sound to work once but i don't remember how i did it now.
[11:03] <shiester_miester> aznpridechinese, nope
[11:03] <Goshawk> shiester_miester: right click on the volume control in top right pannel and select "open volume control"
[11:04] <FruitLoop> I think only the more recent Nvidia cards are properly supported by restricted dirvers.
[11:04] <FruitLoop> drivers
[11:04] <shiester_miester> Goshawk, yes?
[11:04] <yellow_chicken> Jordan_U: some apps have an ubuntu icon next to it, inside synaptic
[11:04] <Goshawk> shiester_miester: then Edit --> preferencies
[11:04] <Jordan_U> saint-takeshi, If you don't do gaming, go with intel, open source drivers and they were the first to support AIGLX ( long before Nvidia )
[11:04] <Goshawk> and add a microphone
[11:04] <shiester_miester> yes
[11:04] <shiester_miester> ok
[11:04] <shiester_miester> Goshawk, its already added
[11:04] <Goshawk> shiester_miester: now enable it
[11:04] <aznpridechinese> well actually it's not true, ati doesn't make as good cards
[11:04] <saint-takeshi> i do an awful lot of gaming
[11:04] <aznpridechinese> they make bang for your buck cards
[11:05] <Jordan_U> yellow_chicken, Oh, I don't use synaptic, it's probably to signify what is in main and what isn't
[11:05] <shiester_miester> Goshawk, how can i tell if its working :/
[11:05] <aznpridechinese> so do i
[11:05] <Goshawk> shiester_miester: plug your microphone and it will work (at least, mine works)
[11:05] <kane77> where are gedit plugin's settings stored?
[11:05] <saint-takeshi> more than a married man should.
[11:05] <Jordan_U> kane77, gconf-editor probably
[11:05] <shiester_miester> Goshawk, does it play the sounds it records back through the speakers?
[11:06] <Goshawk> shiester_miester: wait a second, i'll test
[11:06] <kane77> Jordan_U, hey! that's cool.. I didn't know there was such app!
[11:07] <vvlaw> hi.
[11:07] <Goshawk> shiester_miester: sure, i've two microphone, one front in and a label called Microphone, when i enable the last, i can hear my voice on the speakers
[11:07] <revilodraw> 'I have a an Inspiron 6400 with ATI Radeon Mobility X1400 video card... the fiesty livecd gives me an error saying that xorg is confirured incorrectly...after using sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and changing the cards around i get the same problem, 'no screens found'
[11:07] <bruenig> another ati person
[11:07] <Jordan_U> revilodraw, Have you tried using fglrx ?
[11:08] <bruenig> that makes 939,421
[11:08] <bruenig> if my stats are correct
[11:08] <Simplechat> hey ::D
[11:08] <revilodraw> bruenig: yes, it seems that feisty (oopppss) should have nNEVER presented this problem in the first place
[11:08] <Simplechat> i've just set up ubuntu onto my old desktop (this is the first ubunutu install that actually worked :))
[11:08] <gonzzor> Could someone help me understand why my IR remote doesn't generate events to /dev/input/event? but it acts like a normal keyboard?
[11:08] <Simplechat> it seems there have been some driver updates :)
[11:08] <shiester_miester> Goshawk, no matter what settings i pick, it doesnt seem to work :/
[11:08] <revilodraw> jordan u: i think so, actually no.. ill do that... requires a restart etc
[11:09] <Jordan_U> revilodraw, Don't blame Feisty, blame ATI
[11:09] <Simplechat> anyways, i've set up shared folders, what credentials do i need to supply for them?
[11:09] <Simplechat> to access them?
[11:09] <bruenig> revilodraw, it seems like ati should have better hardware support or you shouldn't be stupid enough to buy it and try to run linux on it (oopsss)
[11:09] <revilodraw> Jordan U : Ok i wont blame feisty, but it worked with edgy
[11:09] <Simplechat> ?
[11:09] <shiester_miester> aha! now it works
[11:09] <Goshawk> shiester_miester: are you sure that the volume on your microphone is set correctly? (i mean the hardware wheel that in some cases set teh volume for microphone and headphones)
[11:09] <revilodraw> bruenig: hhah good call, but our beautiful os ubuntu is supposed to work with any computer
[11:09] <RickH> Okay, how do I kill a window that's stopped working properly, but is still responding?
[11:09] <shiester_miester> Goshawk, NEVER rely on colour-coded plugs!
[11:10] <shiester_miester> why, oh why, would they deliberately make the colour codes wrong?!
[11:10] <shiester_miester> ITS NOT FAIR
[11:10] <bruenig> revilodraw, our? if you actually new what was going on the first time instead of just copying and pasting code snippets, you should be able to fix it
[11:10] <FruitLoop> obviously I am not giving enough info or something.... I'm using UbuntuStudio 7.04, I'm running Firefox 2.0.0.4 from the repos, I've got Adobe Flash Player 9 installed (also from the repos). I can't get any sound from flash web pages at all. I have tried the  FIREFOX_DSP="aoss" thing. The sound card is an old Creative SoundBlaster PCI64. What else is left that I can do?
[11:10] <Goshawk> shiester_miester: is ti working?
[11:10] <bruenig> the first time you set it up in edgy that is
[11:10] <shiester_miester> Goshawk, yeah its working fine
[11:10] <shiester_miester> stupid pink plug going in the blue jack...
[11:10] <Goshawk> shiester_miester: what was the problem like?
[11:10] <shiester_miester> well the problem was like this
[11:11] <Goshawk> ah ok
[11:11] <shiester_miester> my headphones have a pink plug
[11:11] <shiester_miester> so i put them in the pink jack
[11:11] <shiester_miester> = not working
[11:11] <Goshawk> shiester_miester: me too
[11:11] <Jordan_U> revilodraw, did you try using fglrx ?
[11:11] <Frogzoo> FruitLoop: does lspci show the card?
[11:11] <shiester_miester> why do they do these things to torment us!?
[11:11] <revilodraw> bruenig; doing that now
[11:11] <Goshawk> shiester_miester: but my sound blaster 5.1 has the correct colours
[11:11] <FruitLoop> Frogzoo: yes
[11:11] <Goshawk> :D
[11:11] <shiester_miester> Goshawk, thats the same card as i have! O_O
[11:11] <Jordan_U> revilodraw, Was that response for me ?
[11:11] <shiester_miester> hax!
[11:12] <saint-takeshi> the pink jack's always mic
[11:12] <Frogzoo> FruitLoop: the sound works otherwise?
[11:12] <Goshawk> shiester_miester: are you sure that the blue plug is not a "standard sound input"?
[11:12] <shiester_miester> i dunno
[11:12] <FruitLoop> Frogzoo: yes, it works in everything except firefox flash webpages. And lspci reports it as "00:07.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1370 [AudioPCI] "
[11:12] <Goshawk> shiester_miester: IMHO you shoud test this configuration with programis like ekiga or skype to test the microphone
[11:13] <Frogzoo> FruitLoop: feisty?
[11:13] <shiester_miester> yeah im configuring it for skype
[11:13] <FruitLoop> Frogzoo: YEs, running UbuntuStudio 7.04
[11:13] <saint-takeshi> afaik pink=mic; blue=line-in; green=headphone/speakers; black=sub out and the other one (can't remember)=rear out
[11:14] <Goshawk> saint-takeshi: thanks
[11:14] <Frogzoo> FruitLoop: system -> prefs -> sound - is esd enabled?
[11:14] <saint-takeshi> but i've not use 5.1 in a couple of years, i could be wrong
[11:14] <FruitLoop> Frogzoo: Enable Software Sound Mixing is ticked, yes.
[11:15] <Frogzoo> FruitLoop: and the alsa device is selected?
[11:15] <yellow_chicken> how to read .chm files in linux?
[11:15] <FruitLoop> Frogzoo: it is currently set to "automatic" but I've also tried selecting asla device before with no success.
[11:16] <Frogzoo> FruitLoop: under devices (1st tab) device should be alsa not OSS
[11:16] <kane77> how can I restart linux without restarting the computer? is it possible?
[11:16] <jatt> no
[11:17] <jatt> it is impossible
[11:17] <fwest> im trying to use sun jdk to remove gcj,  is it possible to set which is the default jvm?
[11:17] <JimQode_> kane77, why do you want to restart it? maybe you just need to restart X
[11:17] <Goshawk> kane77: what are you trying to do?
[11:17] <ketrox__> you can restart x without restarting the computer
[11:17] <kane77> JimQode_, I added new mime type...
[11:17] <ketrox__> you rarely need to restart the computer under linux
[11:17] <JimQode_> kane77,  log out and log back in
[11:18] <FruitLoop> Frogzoo: Yes, that is the setting we were just talking about wasn't it.. And as I said, changing it to Alsa does not work.
[11:18] <kane77> JimQode_, ok I'll try that
[11:18] <FruitLoop> Frogzoo: ...and incase you are wondering.. I just tried changing it again just now and it still does not work.
[11:18] <Frogzoo> FruitLoop: sound -> volume control -> file -> device - alsa ?
[11:18] <jatt> fwest: I set the default jvm using
[11:18] <jatt> export PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH
[11:18] <jatt> but this is only for development not to use the jre...
[11:19] <Kalamansi> hello guys..i have 1 ubuntu server and 10 xp.i want to install ubuntu in 10 xp coz the license are too expensive..Q: if im goin to use ubuntu in 10 pcs workstations, how to run the applications like Adobe,adobe photoshop,dreamweaver,php,zend?i tried to install dreamweaver in ubunto but wont install....
[11:19] <FruitLoop> Frogzoo: what? where?
[11:19] <jatt> Kalamansi: can you use alternatives? Or you *must* run Photoshop
[11:19] <ArchiSilver> 'Lo
[11:19] <fwest> jatt, i found a better way, you can do update-alternatives --config java :)
[11:19] <Frogzoo> FruitLoop: from the main menu: sound -> volume control -> file -> device - alsa ?
[11:19] <jatt> fwest: does it work when you install jdk from the sun package (not from the ubuntu one)?
[11:19] <Kalamansi> alternatives of what jatt?
[11:20] <Goshawk> shiester_miester: how is the test going?
[11:20] <shiester_miester> Goshawk, it works fine, thanks
[11:20] <jatt> Kalamansi: alternatives of the programs. For example instead of Photoshop, Gimp.
[11:20] <shiester_miester> now to try my other mic
[11:20] <Goshawk> shiester_miester: blue plug?
[11:20] <FruitLoop> Frogzoo: there is no such menu item "volume control"
[11:20] <Kalamansi> jatt:havent tried gimp coz im not a developer im just a noob network admin....
[11:20] <fwest> jatt, well no that won't work for something that isn't packages
[11:20] <Frogzoo> FruitLoop: gnome?
[11:20] <FruitLoop> Frogzoo: yes. gnome
[11:21] <shiester_miester> Goshawk, no no, same plug
[11:21] <Goshawk> shiester_miester: is same plug the blue one or the pink one?
[11:21] <shiester_miester> Goshawk, but this mic doesnt appear to work...oh well.  its a fancy stereo mic that i can mount onto a surface so i dont have to have my headset on
[11:21] <kane77> JimQode_, yep it worked...
[11:21] <Frogzoo> FruitLoop: odd, I thought it was there by default..maybe enable it in the menu editor..
[11:21] <JimQode_> kane77, have fun ;)
[11:22] <Kalamansi> i want to run adobe ,adobe photoshop,dreamweaver,php,zend, for web developers here...is that posible?
[11:22] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, you dont need photoshop as a web developer
[11:22] <kane77> JimQode_, I have set up ultimate Ruby on Rails IDE from gedit!! :)
[11:22] <ari_stres1> Kalamansi: sure, we can use crossover
[11:22] <Kalamansi> or other alternatives as long as it is the same as the said application that ive mention ^^
[11:22] <bruenig> right your own code gees
[11:22] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, and you sure as hell dont need dreamweaver :P
[11:22] <bruenig> write*
[11:22] <shiester_miester> if you need dreamweaver, you arent a real web developer ;)
[11:22] <FruitLoop> Frogzoo: OK, it is now enabled in the menu... what was I supposed to be looking at again?
[11:23] <Frogzoo> FruitLoop: from the main menu: sound -> volume control -> file -> device - alsa ?
[11:23] <JimQode_> kane77, RoR is a big hype nowadays but i'm a php guy ;)
[11:23] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, although if you desperately need a WYSIWYG editor, use NVU, it runs fine on linux
[11:23] <Frogzoo> JimQode_: whatever does the job
[11:23] <shiester_miester> JimQode_, RoR is made using PhP, i believe
[11:23] <bruenig> nvu is unmaintained
[11:23] <shiester_miester> yeah i know
[11:23] <shiester_miester> its not as good as dreamweaver
[11:23] <FruitLoop> Frogzoo: Yes, it has the alsa device selected.
[11:23] <shiester_miester> but then, dreamweaver isnt very good either
[11:23] <shiester_miester> just write your own damn code
[11:24] <JimQode_> shiester_miester, nope it's a completely new thing. No connection with php.
[11:24] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester:some web developer here needs a photoshop...
[11:24] <shiester_miester> JimQode_, oh ok, it looks like i was mistaken
[11:24] <Frogzoo> FruitLoop: time to turn to google for your sound card + ubuntu
[11:24] <vip3rousmango> Kalamansi: use Gimp, its better than photoshop
[11:24] <kane77> if only I was able to change the background of the gedit embedded terminal :/
[11:24] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, for pretty much anything you would need for websites, gimp is sufficient
[11:25] <vip3rousmango> yup
[11:25] <FruitLoop> oh crap :(
[11:25] <bruenig> kane77, can you use vim from the gedit terminal?
[11:25] <shiester_miester> vip3rousmango, thats not true, photoshop is at a completely different level when it comes to image editing
[11:25] <shiester_miester> at the present moment, gimp can't even come close
[11:25] <Kalamansi> ari_stres1: how?its my first time to use linux been in windows for ages and windows is very expensive thats why we will change to ubuntu
[11:25] <shiester_miester> gimp is really good for little things though, like graphics on websites, since its faster than photoshop
[11:25] <kane77> vip3rousmango, in some ways it is, but PS is more user friendly (at least for me)
[11:25] <kane77> bruenig, yep you can...
[11:26] <bruenig> oh cool and I thought gedit was useless
[11:26] <vip3rousmango> yes, i know this but its the best eqivliant linux has.. unless you just want him to install photoshop via wine/vmplayer
[11:26] <Frogzoo> FruitLoop: have you tried closing all apps accessing sound & restarting ff?
[11:26] <shiester_miester> bruenig, gedit is cool!
[11:26] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester:okay gimp.how about dream weaver,zend (i know zend will run in linux),php (it will run too), how about css3?
[11:26] <shiester_miester> i use gedit for all my coding
[11:26] <shiester_miester> yeah php works fine
[11:26] <shiester_miester> css?
[11:26] <bruenig> what kind of coding do you do
[11:26] <ari_stres1> Kalamansi: if you use crossover, it means you still have to buy photoshop, dreamweaver, etc
[11:26] <Kalamansi> css3 sir
[11:26] <Goshawk> shiester_miester: try geany
[11:26] <Kalamansi> im not sure about css3 coz im not a web developer but ive seen there application
[11:26] <kane77> bruenig, I thought that gedit was a plain text editor, but now I installed some plugins and it is better than text mate...
[11:26] <shiester_miester> yeah i tried geany its good except it completely ignores all ubuntu's theme stuff
[11:27] <FruitLoop> Frogzoo: yes.. well everything except this chat....
[11:27] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, whats css3?  cascading style sheets? or something else?
[11:27] <Goshawk> shiester_miester: not my version :d
[11:27] <Frogzoo> FruitLoop: annoying..
[11:27] <Goshawk> :D
[11:27] <shiester_miester> Goshawk, what version is that?
[11:27] <shiester_miester> Goshawk, i have version 0.10.2
[11:27] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester:css
[11:27] <FruitLoop> Frogzoo: Shall I try exiting this chat too then?
[11:27] <Kalamansi> cascading style sheet yeah
[11:28] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, you dont "run" css, a web browser interprets it
[11:28] <Frogzoo> FruitLoop: oh are you using gaim?
[11:28] <shiester_miester> you just have to know what it is :P
[11:28] <FruitLoop> yes
[11:28] <shiester_miester> i mean, how it works
[11:28] <shiester_miester> knowing what it is doesnt help much, lol
[11:28] <Frogzoo> FruitLoop: then worth a shot as that accesses sound, then restart ff
[11:28] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester: okay.can i run internet explorer too?
[11:28] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, yes
[11:28] <Kalamansi> okay
[11:28] <Goshawk> shiester_miester: same version here
[11:28] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, although i dont see why you would want to, except for testing
[11:29] <Kalamansi> so ubuntu can run photoshop,adobe,dreamweaver?
[11:29] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, nope
[11:29] <vip3rousmango> no, wine in ubuntu can run them
[11:29] <shiester_miester> it doesn't run photoshop
[11:29] <vip3rousmango> and only if ur system can handle it yeah. - the photoshop
[11:29] <Goshawk> Kalamansi: yep, try wine doors
[11:29] <kane77> shiester_miester, of course for testing (and maybe if you are masochist :) )
[11:29] <shiester_miester> a modern version, at least
[11:29] <askand> Whats a good langame for ubuntu that is in the repositories?
[11:29] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester: the developer want IE coz thats how they test their projects and they will try it in firefox mozilla too
[11:29] <Goshawk> Kalamansi: i saw also word of warcraft running on wine doors
[11:29] <shiester_miester> vip3rousmango, what version of photoshop are you refering to that runs in wine?
[11:29] <kane77> shiester_miester, CS3 cannot be installed...
[11:30] <Goshawk> s/word/world
[11:30] <metbsd> word of warcraft?
[11:30] <shiester_miester> lol
[11:30] <vip3rousmango> shiester_miester: Creative Suite 2
[11:30] <shiester_miester> word of warcraft: thatd be a badass name for a typing tutor software
[11:30] <gordonjcp> is there a nice Ubuntu GUI for samba?
[11:30] <vip3rousmango> CS3 won't work, its too big and a huge pain for wine.. it just freezes
[11:30] <Frogzoo> !appdb | shiester_miester
[11:30] <ubotu> shiester_miester: Appdb is a database of apps & help for programs that run under wine: see http://appdb.winehq.org
[11:30] <metbsd> haahha shiester_miester
[11:30] <shiester_miester> Frogzoo, i know...
[11:30] <JimQode_> why doesn't wine-doors have an ubuntu package?
[11:30] <Frogzoo> gordonjcp: smb4k is nice
[11:30] <Goshawk> gordonjcp: yep System --> administration --> shared folders
[11:30] <kane77> shiester_miester, I'm not sure of CS2, but I've been able to install Photoshop6
[11:31] <shiester_miester> lol version 6
[11:31] <shiester_miester> might as well use gimp
[11:31] <gordonjcp> Goshawk: aha, how did I fail to spot that?
[11:31] <Frogzoo> askand: take a look at tremulous
[11:31] <kane77> :/
[11:31] <vip3rousmango> kane77: CS2 worked for me in wine, along with Flash 8
[11:31] <kane77> shiester_miester, true...
[11:31] <metbsd> wine proves that most of linux users can't live without windows
[11:31] <shiester_miester> metbsd, incorrect
[11:31] <shiester_miester> metbsd, linux users cant live without windows APPLICATIONS
[11:31] <andrew-8665> ...................................
[11:32] <vip3rousmango> we can DEFINATLY live without winblows :D
[11:32] <kane77> vip3rousmango, I havent tried it, because when I need Photoshop I often need Premiere too and I wouldnt run that in wine...
[11:32] <shiester_miester> windows itself can just disappear, but we like its apps until someone makes something natively
[11:32] <andrew-8665> wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[11:32] <metbsd> so we are talking about windows its very operating system, not its very applications
[11:32] <Goshawk> Kalamansi: http://www.wine-doors.org/screens/ss-winedoors-1.png
[11:32] <vip3rousmango> kane77: ahah, yeah true enough, Premiere and wine do not get along
[11:32] <shiester_miester> metbsd, windows = an operating system, nothing more
[11:32] <metbsd> but
[11:32] <shiester_miester> the applications have nothing to do with the OS at all, except that they are designed to run on it
[11:32] <shiester_miester> andrew-8665, do you ever actually say anything
[11:33] <shiester_miester> other than "whee"?
[11:33] <metbsd> there won't be native for linux because software developer thinks linux is not worth the efford
[11:33] <shiester_miester> exactly
[11:33] <shiester_miester> which is why wine is awesome
[11:33] <vip3rousmango> well.. they don't get paid for linux dev..
[11:33] <saint-takeshi> metbsd, apart from the fact that, in the linux community, users ARE software developers
[11:33] <shiester_miester> because if they can see heaps of people struggling to use their apps through wine, they will think "gee, maybe its actually worth it to make software for linux"
[11:33] <saint-takeshi> and vice cers
[11:33] <shiester_miester> not always
[11:33] <shiester_miester> not every linux app is open-source
[11:33] <vip3rousmango> true
[11:33] <shiester_miester> qT, for example
[11:34] <kane77> yeah I guess adobe wont bother porting their creative suite for linux because not much people would buy it...
[11:34] <FruitLoop> Frogzoo: No joy... still no sound
[11:34] <vip3rousmango> not all, but a bunch is
[11:34] <Kalamansi> cool but they use dreamweaver cs3 here
[11:34] <fatbrain> Hello
[11:34] <Frogzoo> metbsd: s/w devs are starting to develop to the wine api as a way of accessing the linux user base
[11:34] <ArchiSilver> Question: Do applications run noticeably slower under WINE?
[11:34] <shiester_miester> ArchiSilver, sometimes yes, sometimes no
[11:34] <metbsd> it's messy, how can user be developer, linux is a toy?
[11:34] <JimQode_> ArchiSilver, depends on the application
[11:34] <Goshawk> shiester_miester: not qt is relased in doulbe licence, gpl for non commercial
[11:34] <Kalamansi> i sleep late because of windows errors
[11:34] <fatbrain> Something's wrong with my feisty install, can I reset it to "default"?
[11:34] <Frogzoo> FruitLoop: yeah, google for a fix, someone must know
[11:34] <shiester_miester> oh ok
[11:34] <vip3rousmango> Don't forget, Macromedia said a linux port for Macromedia Studio's is underway..
[11:34] <ArchiSilver> Photoshop to be precise
[11:34] <fatbrain> like, do a recovery of some sort.
[11:34] <JimQode_> metbsd, look at it from the other side. developers are ALWAYS also users :)
[11:34] <shiester_miester> ArchiSilver, afaik, modern versions of photoshop don't run at all, ever
[11:34] <shiester_miester> lol good point JimQode_
[11:34] <FruitLoop> Frogzoo: sod that... I started at google,, this was my last place to look. ;)
[11:35] <shiester_miester> they wouldnt make software and then not use it
[11:35] <vip3rousmango> agreed.
[11:35] <kane77> ArchiSilver, afaikt startup is somewhat slower
[11:35] <RudyValencia> I use Ubuntu as a server
[11:35] <RudyValencia> :)
[11:35] <metbsd> i use debian
[11:35] <Goshawk> RudyValencia: welcome, you are not the only one :D
[11:35] <RudyValencia> (specifically, the "server" distro)
[11:35] <ArchiSilver> I use Photoshop 7.0, will that run?
[11:35] <Kalamansi> lets finalize this guys please....can i run dreamweaver cs3,zend,php,microsoft word,photoshop,adobe,powerpoint,notepad,IE?
[11:35] <saint-takeshi> archisilver: depends on the application, but not anything i use (couple of games, sony vegas)
[11:35] <shiester_miester> ArchiSilver, maybe
[11:35] <RudyValencia> I like that they have the "server" version :)
[11:35] <andrew-8665> oh, ok. ahem, i am having trouble with my DVD burner [internal toshiba laptop Matshita]  it no longer mounts any cds? can read dvd's, on burn mini dvd [1.4 gig]  cannot boot from any DVD but a couple i burnt before and offical kubuntu cds?
[11:35] <Kalamansi> if theres alternative i would love to
[11:35] <ArchiSilver> Rephrase: Will that run without any noticeable slow-down
[11:35] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, http://appdb.winehq.org
[11:36] <kane77> ArchiSilver, yes PS7 runs
[11:36] <vip3rousmango> ArchiSilver: it should.. i don't see why not as long as it's a stand-alone app..
[11:36] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, check out there, it will tell you
[11:36] <Frogzoo> FruitLoop: you did check PCM isn't muted?
[11:36] <Goshawk> Kalamansi: i'm not sure you can play all these applications but you can try using wine-doors
[11:36] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester: okay thanks alot
[11:36] <Crnd> how much space should i reserve for ubuntu and does it support ntfs disks?
[11:36] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, its a database of lots of windows applications that people have tried to run in wine
[11:36] <Kalamansi> Goshawk:how to install wine ?
[11:36] <saint-takeshi> archisilver: should do, check the wine appdb, or spend a weekend teachingh yourself the GiMP
[11:36] <FruitLoop> Frogzoo: yep.. otherwise it wouldn't be working in everything else....
[11:36] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, "sudo apt-get install wine"
[11:37] <Frogzoo> Crnd: it doesn't support ntfs disks, but they will work
[11:37] <Kalamansi> sorry first time to use linux
[11:37] <Goshawk> Kalamansi: look for wine or wine-doors package
[11:37] <metbsd> why not just run windows
[11:37] <gordonjcp> Goshawk: ah, Shared Folders appears to be for sharing folders on this PC
[11:37] <metbsd> windows is quite stable for me these days
[11:37] <ArchiSilver> I'm too used to using Photoshop 7 for my digital art to just switch to something else, but I'm not sure if my system will cope with running everything at the same time
[11:37] <metbsd> no crash whatsoever
[11:37] <shiester_miester> metbsd, yes, but its WINDOWS
[11:37] <gordonjcp> Goshawk: is there one for mounting remote shares?
[11:37] <fatbrain> I've installed build-essential package but when I try to ./configure I get an error message stating "C compiler cannot create executables." Anyone know how to resolve that?
[11:37] <Goshawk> gordonjcp: no it's a frontend for samba, i'm sure i'm using it
[11:37] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester: :in root?
[11:37] <gordonjcp> Goshawk: ok, let me try again
[11:37] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, with sudo, yes
[11:37] <metbsd> oh right, we linux users supposed to hate windows.. right?
[11:37] <Kalamansi> okay
[11:37] <vip3rousmango> ArchiSilver: try the Gimp 2.2 im a die-hard photoshop person but i found gimp to be quite impressive
[11:37] <shiester_miester> metbsd, its not about hating on windows
[11:37] <VIrUZ__> windows vista is really good looking im in love
[11:37] <Goshawk> gordonjcp: when you first start it, it asks you to install smb support and ntfs support
[11:37] <_6StringKng_> amarok is the shizznit
[11:37] <shiester_miester> metbsd, dont be so billigerent
[11:37] <gordonjcp> Goshawk: I'm either being really thick or it doesn't have a thing to let me mount remote shares
[11:37] <Crnd> Frogzoo, i was just planning on putting my mp3 files to a ntfs drive so i'd be able to access 'em from win and unix. it'll work like a charm?
[11:38] <Kalamansi> ctrl+alt+f1 shiester_miester?
[11:38] <vip3rousmango> Crnd: better to use Fat32
[11:38] <shiester_miester> VIrUZ__, compiz-fusion makes windows vista look old :P
[11:38] <_6StringKng_> VIrUZ__ your in an ubuntu channel and you talk about vista, lmao
[11:38] <Goshawk> gordonjcp: then when you add a "shared folder" unser smb or nfs
[11:38] <fatbrain> bah
[11:38] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, no :/ just run it in a terminal
[11:38] <fatbrain> why am I always in this godforsaken channe1?=
[11:38] <Crnd> I was already hoping I should never touch that filesystem again... :\
[11:38] <Frogzoo> Crnd: dunno, if it was me, I'd go ext3, and use the ext2 driver for windows
[11:38] <_6StringKng_> I also have vista, but compiz-fusion PWNS it
[11:38] <Goshawk> gordonjcp: mount a shared folder?? (are you using smb or nfs)?
[11:38] <ArchiSilver> I'm too used to Photoshop to use Gimp properly, it just irritates me
[11:38] <saint-takeshi> metybsd, it's not that we're **supposed to** as such, just that it's horrible
[11:38] <ArchiSilver> Everything feels different
[11:38] <fatbrain> #ubuntu-unregged !?
[11:38] <_6StringKng_> silver I have the same problems, lmao
[11:38] <metbsd> what's so horrible about windows
[11:38] <VIrUZ__> cant use linux MS fan kids might hack me
[11:38] <shiester_miester> metbsd, we dont /hate/ windows, really, we just all think that ubuntu has sufficient advantages to make it better
[11:39] <metbsd> i use windows everyday, but debian too
[11:39] <vip3rousmango> Cnrd: use Frogzoo's method, much easyer..
[11:39] <vip3rousmango> Frogzoo: nice idea, forgot about ext2 driver for win
[11:39] <_6StringKng_> uh, how can I set amarok to default media playe rinstead of rhythmbox music player?
[11:39] <Goshawk> gordonjcp: because if you are trying to set up samba, just set a shared folder and restat (so samba will execute correctly) and after i wile you will see the samba folder on you windows network
[11:39] <shiester_miester> metbsd, one of the things that I hate about windows is the total integration of the OS and the GUI
[11:39] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester: eversun@ubuntu:~$ i will su root here?
[11:39] <Crnd> Hmm. I'll try that then. Thankies.
[11:39] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, you dont have to do anything like that
[11:39] <gordonjcp> Goshawk: that's not what I want to do
[11:39] <metbsd> that happens to be why i like windows
[11:39] <JimQode_> shouldn't this windows vs linux thing go on at #ubuntu-offtopic?
[11:39] <andrew-8665> anybody elese running 7.04 as a host for virtualbox, when running apt on any debian distro makes crash? [runs stable otherwise.] 
[11:39] <metbsd> so that's not the reason why windows is worse
[11:40] <shiester_miester> metbsd, how can you like it?  it means that if something goes wrong with the GUI then you cant fix it, because you have no other way of using the OS
[11:40] <gordonjcp> Goshawk: I'm already using samba to expose local directories
[11:40] <_6StringKng_> anyone?
[11:40] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, just open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install wine"
[11:40] <Goshawk> gordonjcp: so what are you trying to do?
[11:40] <pr0t0type> hi i got probs with vmware :) i installed the player, but i want the server. Now that i want to install the server, it says vmware ist installed allready. how can i uninstall it ? I removed everything in synaptic... please help
[11:40] <gordonjcp> Goshawk: what I want to do is connect to a Windows server
[11:40] <_6StringKng_> uh, how can I set amarok to default media player instead of rhythmbox music player?
[11:40] <VIrUZ__> OMG i cant leave windows theres no doors !!!
[11:40] <saint-takeshi> metbsd: the bloatware, the reformatting every 6 months (tops) to recover from the inexplicable sluggishness, the constant threat of viral/spyware/hacker activity
[11:40] <gordonjcp> Goshawk: however Gnome-VFS isn't suitable
[11:40] <Frogzoo> gordonjcp: for the 2nd time, smb4k
[11:40] <Goshawk> gordonjcp: ah ok
[11:40] <fatbrain> Hello
[11:40] <gordonjcp> Frogzoo: ok
[11:40] <Frogzoo> gordonjcp: also nautilus
[11:40] <metbsd> i like it because gui integrated with os is better in windows than in linux? hard to understand?
[11:40] <Goshawk> gordonjcp: perfect.. so is the windows server in your subnet mask?
[11:40] <metbsd> because they are together
[11:40] <JimQode_> pr0t0type, apt-get remove --purge vmware-player
[11:41] <Frogzoo> gordonjcp: but i prefer smb4k
[11:41] <shiester_miester> metbsd, but thats a bad thing, because when one breaks, the whole thing breaks
[11:41] <metbsd> so it's both advantage and disadvantage
[11:41] <vip3rousmango> metbsd: linux desided to seperate the gui on purpose..
[11:41] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester: i cant sudo some nutwit agent put a password =/
[11:41] <Goshawk> gordonjcp: if so you can just use nautilus
[11:41] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester:
[11:41] <pr0t0type> thx JimQode_ ill check that
[11:41] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester::how to change the root?
[11:41] <shiester_miester> metbsd, whereas in ubuntu, if the gui screws up then there's nothing you can do
[11:41] <metbsd> but the gui integration is better too
[11:41] <Goshawk> gordonjcp: and you will see the shaerd folders under "net" section
[11:41] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester: i mean the password and the eversun account?
[11:41] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, if someone set a password and you don't know what it is, then good luck using linux
[11:41] <metbsd> and gui starts faster
[11:41] <metbsd> more responsive
[11:41] <metbsd> gui works better with hardware
[11:41] <Goshawk> gordonjcp: if it's not in teh same subnet mask do this: System --> connect to server
[11:42] <shiester_miester> metbsd, you are correct in some ways about it being faster
[11:42] <VIrUZ__> shiester_miester: you are full of craap
[11:42] <gordonjcp> Goshawk: that's gnome-vfs though
[11:42] <vip3rousmango> metbsd: startup time is just configuring.. you can configure any system to start up faster if you know how, like making windows startup only itself and no other apps
[11:42] <metbsd> such as webcam,  bluetooth, gui widget
[11:42] <shiester_miester> thanks for letting me know, VIrUZ__
[11:42] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester:okay ill reinstall ubunto
[11:42] <gordonjcp> Goshawk: so only gnome apps can talk to it
[11:42] <fatbrain> When I run ./configure I get an error stating "C compiler cannot create executables" any idea why !?
[11:42] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, no dont do that
[11:42] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester:why?
[11:42] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, just ask whoever installed it what the password is
[11:42] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester:okay okay
[11:42] <poiu> fatbrain: do you hvae gcc installed?
[11:42] <saint-takeshi> metbsd: therte's also the fact that Microsoft are an evil, aggressive entity. and one of the few people to *BENEFIT* from 9/11 (when the monopolies commission dropped their anti-trust because the economy was knocked on its ass)
[11:42] <VIrUZ__> if some one sets up a root password you can still get it back you dumb f***
[11:43] <metbsd> windiws is made with gui , linux is not, so what, i don't see good and bad about it, it has cons and pros..
[11:43] <Goshawk> gordonjcp: no.. if a program uses the gnome api it will see the resource
[11:43] <JimQode_> fatbrain, apt-get install build-essential
[11:43] <shiester_miester> VIrUZ__, wow you are aggressive, arent you
[11:43] <Goshawk> gordonjcp: if not the program shuld be able to talk with smbclient
[11:43] <shiester_miester> i never meant to imply that its physically impossible to ever do anything
[11:43] <VIrUZ__> just with you
[11:43] <Kalamansi> VIrUZ__:relax man..
[11:43] <fatbrain> JimQode_: I have already installed build-essential
[11:43] <Goshawk> gordonjcp: and you should configure the program to talk with smbclient correctly
[11:43] <fatbrain> poiu: have it installed
[11:43] <shiester_miester> VIrUZ__, i was commenting on the fact that you have to use sudo for lots of things, and not having the password means you can't do those things
[11:43] <Frogzoo> VIrUZ__: easy..
[11:43] <fatbrain> things started to act weird when I did a dpkg --force-overwrite -i pdigin2.0.2.deb :(
[11:44] <metbsd> gui highly integration with os has its pros and cons, seperation of gui and command line also has cons and pros
[11:44] <gordonjcp> Goshawk: command-line tools don't generally use the Gnome API
[11:44] <astro76> !codeofconduct | VIrUZ__
[11:44] <ubotu> VIrUZ__: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[11:44] <JimQode_> fatbrain, it is pretty weird then. try compiling another application. may that package has a problem
[11:44] <VIrUZ__> sudo a shell
[11:44] <Kalamansi> i love ubuntu
[11:44] <metbsd> so i don't see any point being here
[11:44] <Kalamansi> im using studio
[11:44] <shiester_miester> metbsd, agreed, cya
[11:44] <Goshawk> gordonjcp: what application are you trying to run?
[11:44] <fatbrain> JimQode_: I compiled it successfully a few hours ago, before I did the dpkg thing
[11:44] <metbsd> so why did you have to say that linux is better and windows is worse
[11:44] <Kalamansi> well i will wait for the agent and ask for the pass
[11:44] <VIrUZ__> cant you spwn a shell with sudo ?!!!!
[11:44] <Goshawk> gordonjcp: i'm saing that because i never mounted a samba directory?
[11:44] <gordonjcp> Goshawk: some command-line tools
[11:44] <shiester_miester> MetaBot, i thought you agreed that you were going to leave?
[11:44] <shiester_miester> whoops
[11:44] <Goshawk> s/?/!
[11:44] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester:you here for how many hours sir?
[11:45] <fatbrain> JimQode_: Apparently the checkinstall that ships with feisty is fubar, since previous versions have worked without any problm.
[11:45] <pr0t0type> JimQode_,  i did so, but it says it is nothing installed ?????? why ??? i type 'sudo ./vmware-install.pl' and get "A previous installation of VMware software has been detected." what now ??
[11:45] <gordonjcp> Goshawk: thing is, I'm looking for a nice GUI so I can roll it out to end users
[11:45] <shiester_miester> metbsd, i thought you agreed that you were going to leave and stop trolling
[11:45] <Frogzoo> offtopic chit chat -> #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:45] <Frogzoo> !offtopic
[11:45] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:45] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, i dunno :/
[11:45] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester:are you willing to teach me?by the way thanks to the cd
[11:45] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, a while
[11:45] <gordonjcp> I'm not about to recode a bunch of stuff so it talks through gnome-vfs
[11:45] <_6StringKng_> wasn't microsoft trying to patent the sudo command, lmao
[11:45] <poiu> Hi. I run dual boot with grub installed on /boot not in MBR. I had to repartition, an of course the linux partitions have been physically moved on the disc. Now I can't boot into ubuntu. Where do I look for the solution
[11:45] <shiester_miester> umm
[11:45] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester:ok but are you willing sir?
[11:45] <FruitLoop> I've got an ancient massive ISA slot soundblaster pro 2 card here.. and the sad thing is, if I put it in my machine it Flash sound would probably work.. only I got no ISA slot ;)
[11:45] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester:with no pay?im poor sir
[11:45] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, there isnt really a "way", you just install wine...
[11:45] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester:first time to use linux in my life here
[11:45] <JimQode_> pr0t0type, you need to reboot your machine after removal. because vmware installs kernel drivers.
[11:46] <Kalamansi> ok ok
[11:46] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, thats ok
[11:46] <shiester_miester> everyone is a first-time at some point; im not exactly a pro myself
[11:46] <Goshawk> gordonjcp: i can't help you, i don't know it it's possible to mount a windows shared folder with samba (i think that even the protocol doesn't support that). If you want to mount a folder under the network you should use NFS, but it's otehr stuff
[11:46] <pr0t0type> k i see thx JimQode_  brb
[11:46] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester:how to know if i have wine installed?what to type sir?
[11:46] <VIrUZ__> this channel sucks
[11:46] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, did you install ubuntu yourself?
[11:46] <shiester_miester> VIrUZ__, good, cya
[11:46] <FruitLoop> I think the only way for me to get sound in flash is to buy a new card.. hardly seems worth the cost for just one thing which don't work...
[11:46] <VIrUZ__> cant even have a decente convesatyion
[11:46] <gordonjcp> Goshawk: it is, and it has been possible for around 10 years
[11:46] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester:yes sir
[11:46] <shiester_miester> VIrUZ__, oh, do you mean the "decent conversation" where you swear at people?
[11:46] <JimQode_> Kaao, type wine on a terminal
[11:47] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester:i ask a cd in the england country they send me cd studio =)
[11:47] <VIrUZ__> every one talking at the same time what stupid crasap is that
[11:47] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, well then you must have set a password
[11:47] <ale_> how do i change the number of colors in ubuntu?
[11:47] <vip3rousmango> VIrUZ__: this isn't the chan for conversation, its for support #ubuntu-offtopic is for converstation
[11:47] <shiester_miester> VIrUZ__, thats how IRC channels work, you have to learn to read at a speed at which you can keep up ;)
[11:47] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester:yeah i set a password and i tell to my agents not to change the pass but someone change it.
[11:47] <vip3rousmango> shiester_miester: aha yeah, took me a while back in day
[11:47] <VIrUZ__> !BS
[11:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:47] <shiester_miester> lol
[11:48] <revilodraw> ATI X1400 feisty xorg problems..anyone feel like helping lol?
[11:48] <poiu> lol
[11:48] <shiester_miester> bs isnt really a useful trigger in this channel
[11:48] <vip3rousmango> lol
[11:48] <ale_> im using ubuntu 7.04. I know how to change the screen resolution, but i dont know how to change the number of colors displayed.
[11:48] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, im sure its possible to recover the password
[11:48] <FruitLoop> one last thing to try.. is there the possibility that I might not have some alsa or sound related wotsits installed? And that might be causing the "sound in everytyhing except Flash" problem????
[11:48] <shiester_miester> does anyone know how to get the admin password?
[11:48] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester: my password was 123ubuntu123
[11:48] <vip3rousmango> shiester_miester: ask the admin?
[11:48] <poiu> ale_: I guess that it is an option in X11 config file
[11:48] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester: and now its not working
[11:48] <shiester_miester> vip3rousmango, har har
[11:48] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester: even in root and eversun
[11:49] <vip3rousmango> =b
[11:49] <saint-takeshi> viruz__: this is a tech-help channel, decent conversation happen in #off-topic and #linux-rape
[11:49] <shiester_miester> saint-takeshi, don't feed the trolls :P
[11:49] <FruitLoop> Someone give me a list of absolutely everything I need installed for sound to work....
[11:49] <ale_> poiu, but isnt it strange the i have to edit X11 files myself?
[11:49] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester: so some agents here change the pass.soon i will not give them the pass.
[11:49] <shiester_miester> FruitLoop, its impossible to answer that question, it depends on your setup
[11:49] <VIrUZ__> #linux-rape sounds like decenrt
[11:49] <metbsd> i just don't see a strong point of why windows is worse and linux is good
[11:49] <poiu> ale_: maybe. How many colors du you have in ubuntu now?
[11:49] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester: can i run mysql in ubuntu?so that agents can saved their projects to my server
[11:50] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, to change the password, they had to have access to the original password
[11:50] <Kalamansi> im tired of windows error bsod
[11:50] <ale_> poiu, i dont know, but it looks like 65k
[11:50] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester: yes
[11:50] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, you will have to ask them what they changed it to
[11:50] <VIrUZ__> too bad i dont see any tech help conversation
[11:50] <poiu> ale_: maybe try X11 reconfigure through synaptic
[11:50] <FruitLoop> shiester_miester: what other "setup" info would you need?
[11:50] <shiester_miester> VIrUZ__, too bad you dont know how to read, then
[11:50] <JimQode_> !ops
[11:50] <VIrUZ__> only windows fun kids flooding the chat
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[11:50] <Goshawk> gordonjcp: yep, you are right http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/suse-linux-help/31228-samba.html
[11:50] <ale_> poiu, ok lets see
[11:50] <shiester_miester> FruitLoop, like what sound card you are using?
[11:50] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester: can i run mysql in ubuntu?so that agents can saved their projects to my server
[11:50] <Myrtti> hm
[11:50] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, yes you can
[11:51] <Myrtti> JimQode_: que?
[11:51] <FruitLoop> shiester_miester: it's a Sound Blaster PCI64
[11:51] <gordonjcp> Goshawk: I'm just going to edit /etc/fstab on the machines that need to mount things remotely
[11:51] <shiester_miester> FruitLoop, it should work right out of the box, afaik
[11:51] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester: am i right?mysql is a software were your agents can saved their files?
[11:51] <poiu> Any help for grub? I've repartitioned and now I can't boot ubuntu
[11:51] <JimQode_> Myrtti, troll. sorry if it does not need yelling ops
[11:51] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, no, its for running a database
[11:51] <revilodraw> i have the ati radeon x1400 video card in my inspiron 6400 and cant for the life of me get xorg to play nicely..right now im using the edgy liovecd
[11:51] <Goshawk> gordonjcp: yep i got you, maybe this can help https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/fstab-gui
[11:51] <FruitLoop> shiester_miester: it does.. to a point. And that point is no sound in flash web pages.
[11:51] <VIrUZ__> shiester_miester: is a pig
[11:51] <metbsd> ok guys, no troll allowed
[11:51] <Myrtti> VIrUZ__: behave
[11:51] <shiester_miester> ah ok
[11:51] <vip3rousmango> Kalamansi: mySQL is a server-side script for hosting server shells and the like.. its not a program
[11:52] <shiester_miester> VIrUZ__, good to know
[11:52] <metbsd> we can only embrace the glory if ubuntu
[11:52] <vip3rousmango> metbsd: damn straight =b
[11:52] <shiester_miester> actually metbsd you can embrace whatever you want
[11:52] <metbsd> but windows is very bad
[11:52] <shiester_miester> metbsd, except that this is a support channel, not a freedom-of-speech activism channel
[11:52] <metbsd> and linux is very good
[11:52] <VIrUZ__> you cant embrace the world
[11:52] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester:so what is the proper software to use in order for the agents to save their projects to my server for backups?
[11:53] <Myrtti> note: to enhance the usage of !ops use it with the nicks and reason attached same as with other factoids
[11:53] <Kalamansi> i mean vip3rousmango
[11:53] <Myrtti> metbsd: if you'd like to troll more about windows, please take it elsewhere
[11:53] <VIrUZ__> linux is extremlly good
[11:53] <shiester_miester> vip3rousmango, mysql is most definitely a program, you use it for hosting a database.  its also a query language
[11:53] <saint-takeshi> metbsd: every computer i've ever owned has run at basically the same speed with that generation's version of windows....windows 3.1 on a 386, 95 on a pentium 50, 98 on a p2 333, 2000 on a k6-2/500, XP on a P4 and on this box, Athlon XP 2800+ ....a linux CD i downloaded 3 months ago runs at basically the same speed on all those machines.
[11:53] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, if you set up file sharing, they can save the files to folders on your computer
[11:53] <revilodraw> someone pls help me boot into feisty!! xorg will not play nicely with ,my ati radeon x1400 video card
[11:53] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[11:53] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:53] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, or did you mean saving files over the web?
[11:54] <FruitLoop> Sod this.. I'll just find a different sound card on eBay.. any recommendation for something which is known to work with flash web pages?
[11:54] <vip3rousmango> shiester_miester: i know what its for, but i wasn't taught it as a program..
[11:54] <Myrtti> !o4o
[11:54] <ubotu> Some things are inappropriate for #ubuntu-offtopic. It is asked that controversial topics: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) - Thanks.
[11:54] <Goshawk> gordonjcp: maybe i found something: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Utilities/Kouvert-3915.shtml
[11:54] <shiester_miester> vip3rousmango, how do you think mysql databases work?  they get hosted from a program called "mysql server" :P
[11:54] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester:saving files in my server for backups.not in the web coz i dont have plans yet for setuping a web server coz im just using dsl.
[11:54] <askand> Why do I get this? :No DHCPOFFERS received.
[11:55] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, so you want to be able to save files over a network?
[11:55] <metbsd> you finally have a point there, shiester_miester
[11:55] <revilodraw> it is impossible to run feisto on ati video cards
[11:55] <poiu> askand:is your wireless on or are you on cabled network
[11:55] <shiester_miester> metbsd, why thank you
[11:55] <FruitLoop> I bet he's wireless
[11:55] <K99Brain> ntfs to K99Brain
[11:55] <vip3rousmango> revilodraw: feisto? you mean 7.04 Fiesty Fawn?
[11:55] <poiu> recilodraw: No its not! Im on a radeon
[11:55] <metbsd> but i can still use win2k on old computer, they are still fast
[11:55] <K99Brain> !say ntfs to K99Brain
[11:55] <metbsd> although win2k is a bit outdate
[11:55] <zvtral> hlow
[11:55] <Dusk_> can i make a source file to a deb package on terminal or with a program???
[11:55] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester:so that agents can save files to my server if something happen to their pc.
[11:55] <askand> poiu: wireless
[11:56] <shiester_miester> metbsd, you really do need to take all the windows chat elsewhere
[11:56] <dodo> hello all! i tried to install ndiswrapper on my macbook to get wlan-connect - it doesnt work - who can help?
[11:56] <FruitLoop> see. wireless ;) told you so.
[11:56] <revilodraw> vip3rousmango and poiu: then pls pls help me do it
[11:56] <JimQode_> revilodraw, yes it is but performance suffers, no compisiting support for ati.
[11:56] <poiu> askand: and is it on=
[11:56] <Goshawk> gordonjcp: this is more gnomish http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php/PySDM instead
[11:56] <K99Brain> !help
[11:56] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:56] <Myrtti> metbsd: this is a support channel. If you don't have ubuntu support related questions or problems, please take the discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic or some other channel
[11:56] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, you mean save it over a local network, or the internet?
[11:56] <saint-takeshi> revilodraw: then i'm doing the impossible right now
[11:56] <pr0t0type> JimQode_,  i rebooted but still i got some files i find with the search ??? I still cant install. Any clues ?
[11:56] <Myrtti> metbsd: thank you
[11:56] <nomad> hey
[11:56] <K99Brain> !say tt
[11:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about say tt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:56] <shiester_miester> gday nomad
[11:56] <revilodraw> saint-takeshi; i got ur attention though, which is what i ned
[11:57] <metbsd> ok ihave a ubuntu question
[11:57] <FruitLoop> I solved my wireless problem by using a wireless-to-ethernet bridge instead.. no more wireless problems ;)
[11:57] <askand> poiu: yes.. I first do sudo ifdown eth1 nd then sudo ifup eth1
[11:57] <Frogzoo> metbsd: alleluia!
[11:57] <Myrtti> metbsd: ubuntu support?
[11:57] <menisk> I'm a bit of a n00b and was wondering if someone could help me put the latest ATI drivers on rather than the old ones in the ubuntu repository.
[11:57] <K99Brain> !say mp3
[11:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about say mp3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:57] <JimQode_> pr0t0type, hmm can you install vmware-player again?
[11:57] <zvtral> hlow all
[11:57] <metbsd> is ubuntu just debian with different package?
[11:57] <shiester_miester> gday zvtral
[11:57] <saint-takeshi> revilodraw PM me, i know quite a bit about ATIU support in ubuntu/deb/mint
[11:57] <K99Brain> !say paste
[11:57] <Myrtti> metbsd: *sigh*
[11:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about say paste - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:57] <pr0t0type> JimQode_,  ill check
[11:57] <metbsd> cuz i've been running kubuntu for 2 months now
[11:57] <JimQode_> metbsd, ubuntu is a fork of debian
[11:57] <zvtral> i need help for extract dev how to
[11:57] <Myrtti> K99Brain: you may investigate ubotus functions with private messages too
[11:57] <Frogzoo> metbsd: it is the debian packages, but tweaked, and on a different release cycle
[11:57] <metbsd> i find it same as debian, apt-get..
[11:58] <Kalamansi> sorry got dc
[11:58] <K99Brain> Myrtti: sorry
[11:58] <shiester_miester> metbsd, there will be similarities, most linux distros have features in common
[11:58] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, no worries
[11:58] <JimQode_> metbsd, apt is a package management system used on many distros.
[11:58] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, did you want them to save files from a local network or from the internet?
[11:58] <ryanne> hi all
[11:58] <shiester_miester> gday ryanakca
[11:58] <metbsd> nope, apt is only used by debian forks
[11:58] <shiester_miester> oops
[11:58] <ryanne> How do I use bluetooth on Ubuntu?
[11:58] <shiester_miester> gday ryanne
[11:58] <Kalamansi> can someone copy and paste the conversition please?and email to me please the logs?please?
[11:59] <shiester_miester> !wireless | ryanne
[11:59] <ubotu> ryanne: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:59] <SlimeyPete> metbsd: there's a port for Redhat, I believe
[11:59] <dodo> no eth0-connect, no touchpad, no audio after installing ndiswrapper ...
[11:59] <xoRock> ubuntu ROck
[11:59] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, what conversation?
[11:59] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester:first from the local internet since i dont have web server yet.
[11:59] <shiester_miester> ok then
[11:59] <shiester_miester> wait...local internet?
[11:59] <vip3rousmango> huh?
[11:59] <zvtral> any help me for extract file dab
[11:59] <nomad> i want to switch from aptitude to apt-get ... so is that possible ( i read something that its not recommendable)
[11:59] <zvtral> deb i mean?
[11:59] <JimQode_> zvtral, is it a deb file?
[11:59] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester:from i join here where i post my quistion?sorry for my english
[11:59] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, where are your "agents"?  are they in the same building or very close by, or in a completely different location?
[12:00] <JimQode_> zvtral, double click it to install
[12:00] <askand> poiu: do you have an idea?
[12:00] <zvtral> yes
[12:00] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, your english is good :)
[12:00] <zvtral> ooo
[12:00] <zvtral> thanks
[12:00] <zvtral> i will try
[12:00] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, if you have any other questions you just need to ask
[12:00] <scorp123> Hi all ... I am having troubles with sound notification. Can *ANYONE* please just send me a message to my nick? e.g. scorp123: test test test .... or something like that?
[12:00] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester:same office sir.small company with 11 pcs.10 are xppro and i want to change it in ubuntu.1 is ubuntu and 11 them all
[12:00] <ryanne> shiester_miester, I were asking for bluetooth, not WiFi
[12:00] <JimQode_> scorp123, testing
[12:01] <scorp123> JimQode_: ya man .... it's working :)
[12:01] <revilodraw> im not going to sleep tonight until i can b oot into feisty with my ati radeon x1400 video card
[12:01] <scorp123> thanks guys :)
[12:01] <JimQode_> scorp123, have fun ;)
[12:01] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, so you want to change all the computers from using windows to ubuntu?
[12:01] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester:windows cost me trouble blue screen and everything i sleep late because of stupid windows
[12:01] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, yes i agree, i run a small business too and i don't like using windows either
[12:01] <pr0t0type> JimQode_, the player is working fine ...
[12:01] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, also, you don't need to call me "sir" ;)
[12:02] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester:agents do upload files and download so it is frown to virus thats why i want to ubuntu
[12:02] <menisk> Can someone help me install the latest ATI drivers, not the older ones in the repos.
[12:02] <shiester_miester> oh ok
[12:02] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, you could use an FTP server
[12:02] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester:i work here as admin.im like 1995 admin hehehe.you are good admin wow
[12:02] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, im not an admin at all
[12:02] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester:i heard ubuntu can block website.so i want to block website like youtube coz it kills our bandwith
[12:02] <scorp123> JimQode_: stupid "knotify" was crashing on me all the time, now that bugger works again :)  Yippieh.
[12:03] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, you can do that on windows as well
[12:03] <shiester_miester> but you can also do it in ubuntu
[12:03] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester:yeah i use cyber nanny
[12:03] <ryanne> and... how do we recover root passwords?
[12:03] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester:i heard also that ubuntu can creat proxy?no?
[12:03] <VIrUZ__> ryanne: just reinstall
[12:03] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, yes, almost anything you can do in windows you can do in linux
[12:04] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester:coz i want to protect my internet connection so no one can ping flood my server
[12:04] <shiester_miester> VIrUZ__, dont give bad advice like that
[12:04] <shiester_miester> ryanne, you don't have to reinstall ubuntu
[12:04] <revilodraw> kalamansi; y use cyber nanny? just dont look at stuff u dont want to.. and tell ur kids not to look at porn, bombs or drugs and ur sweet
[12:04] <askand> I get "No DHCPOFFERS received" with sudo ifup eth1..why?
[12:04] <Kalamansi> revilodraw:yeah hehehe
[12:04] <shiester_miester> askand, it means that particular NIC isn't being assigned an IP address.  can you access a DHCP server?
[12:04] <VIrUZ__> you should see this dude over at #secutry channel
[12:04] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester:plus i want to monitor what they are downloading and what they are doing
[12:04] <VIrUZ__> #security
[12:05] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, you can do that as well
[12:05] <VIrUZ__> he does nothing but give bad advice
[12:05] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester:agents here are web developer and researchers so they need to download some stuff and upload stuff
[12:05] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester:ok
[12:05] <askand> shiester_miester: can I acess a dhcpserver?
[12:05] <shiester_miester> askand, thats what i asked you
[12:05] <Judg3_Dr34D> .
[12:05] <revilodraw> kalamansi; back in the day i installed a cybernanny to see what it would do... dont remember how i possibly undid the damage lol...getting rid of it wasnt easy thats all i remember
[12:06] <shiester_miester> askand, what ethernet device are you using to connect to the internet? eth0?
[12:06] <Frogzoo> Kalamansi: with linux you can monitor what people download - whether you want to & whether it's legal is a different question
[12:06] <askand> shiester_miester:  eth1 (wireless)
[12:06] <VIrUZ__> ryanne: whats was you need to do ?
[12:06] <shiester_miester> Frogzoo, i believe its legal if you are their employer and you are watching their activities to ensure they stay on task
[12:06] <VIrUZ__> LOL
[12:06] <shiester_miester> although that entirely depends which country you are in :P
[12:06] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester:what i want is to use ubuntu coz its free and fast to connect internet.i want to install dreamweaver cs3,zend,php,microsoftword,flash,notepad,exel, and i guess thats what agents want
[12:06] <revilodraw> who wants to help me with ati video cards and feisty?
[12:07] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, newer versions of photoshop will not work in ubuntu, and most of those other programs you can do the same thing with other software
[12:07] <FruitLoop> askand: I can tell you from experience, if you are using a wireless card with RT61 or RT2500 chipset, and you are trying to use it in a WPA-PSK or WPA2-PSK encryption configuration, you will get limited success and endless connection dropouts. Those wireless chip sets only seem to work with any degree of stability in non-encrypted wireless networks... :(
[12:07] <Frogzoo> ignore Kalamansi
[12:07] <Judg3_Dr34D> Hi, is there a plugin/script in Nautilus that would pop-up a small preview of an image or a text file when I hover over the file? Just like the "File Tip Info" in Konqueror?
[12:07] <VIrUZ__> that dude at #security chann would recomend to sudo rm -f /*
[12:07] <xizdaqrian> I might be able to help revilodraw
[12:07] <xizdaqrian> Maybe
[12:07] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, microsoft office = open office, notepad = gedit, php = php, exel = open office
[12:07] <Myrtti> VIrUZ__: don't EVER say that here
[12:08] <shiester_miester> !ops
[12:08] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[12:08] <Kalamansi> revilodraw:i have ati and i dont have problem installing ubuntu
[12:08] <VIrUZ__> why Myrtti ?
[12:08] <Myrtti> shiester_miester: what now
[12:08] <shiester_miester> VIrUZ__, you saw that
[12:08] <Myrtti> VIrUZ__: because someone might actually try that
[12:08] <shiester_miester> whoops, not u
[12:08] <shiester_miester> Myrtti, thats exactly why
[12:08] <ryanne> VIrUZ__, I fogot my root pass and I need to install stuff
[12:08] <revilodraw> kalamansi; i had no problems until feisty
[12:08] <askand> shiester_miester:internet works on a xpcomputer
[12:08] <Myrtti> shiester_miester: yep
[12:08] <VIrUZ__> ive seen it on the suse foruns
[12:08] <VIrUZ__> and did ti
[12:08] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester:so dreamweavercs3 and flash wont run and photoshop7
[12:09] <Kalamansi> i mean photoshop8
[12:09] <revilodraw>  xizdaqrian: that would be great..can i pm you?
[12:09] <Kalamansi> okay
[12:09] <shiester_miester> Myrtti, he was also advising someone to reinstall ubuntu for some password issue
[12:09] <Kalamansi> thats my problem
[12:09] <VIrUZ__> so why shouldnt i spread the good practices ?
[12:09] <Kalamansi> if all will run i can sleep well not late
[12:09] <xizdaqrian> Yeah, go ahead
[12:09] <Argon> hi
[12:09] <shiester_miester> VIrUZ__, your attitude belies the fact that you KNOW they are not good practices and are just being mischievous
[12:09] <Myrtti> VIrUZ__: it's not a good practice. Reinstall/deleting all the data is NEVER a good practice
[12:09] <Kalamansi> windows is pain in the ass blue screen IRQL
[12:09] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, yes
[12:09] <Argon> I have a question
[12:10] <vip3rousmango> There is a blue-screen screen saver which is really cool
[12:10] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester:thanks alot
[12:10] <vip3rousmango> Argon: just ask it
[12:10] <VIrUZ__> seems like being mischievous is good practice around linux
[12:10] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, dreamweaver doesnt work, apparently
[12:10] <Kalamansi> BIG THANKS Ubuntu! nice ubuntu studio!!
[12:10] <shiester_miester> VIrUZ__, seems not, because people don't like it
[12:10] <VIrUZ__> try the #security channel then
[12:10] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester:i see.agents want it really.
[12:10] <revilodraw>  xizdaqrian: i just im'd you..did ut work?
[12:10] <vip3rousmango> shiester_miester: I have Dreamweaver 8 working fine..
[12:10] <Argon> I have a wirless internet usb adapter how can I install it with ubuntu?
[12:10] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester:and also IE
[12:10] <VIrUZ__> ask oracleDB
[12:11] <Kalamansi> so that they can test their projects
[12:11] <shiester_miester> vip3rousmango, im just going off the appdb
[12:11] <VIrUZ__> i think hes a OP
[12:11] <vip3rousmango> shi
[12:11] <vip3rousmango> shiester_miester: ahh, ok fair enough.
[12:11] <Myrtti> VIrUZ__: this is #ubuntu, not #security. We follow Ubuntu rules and guidelines here, and that's not a good practice by them
[12:11] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, flash doesnt seem to work very well
[12:11] <Myrtti> VIrUZ__: now stop arguing about the issue and live with it.
[12:12] <Ayabara> The search applet in my panel is frozen. I want to remove it, but right clicking on it doesn't work. Is there another way of removing items from a panel?
[12:12] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, although some people seem to be able to get flash 8 working
[12:12] <Kalamansi> ok
[12:12] <vip3rousmango> I have flash 8 working
[12:12] <VIrUZ__> macromerdiaTM owns
[12:12] <vip3rousmango> you need to make sure the install isn't stared by the .swf flash installer on off of a CD
[12:12] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester:i think i will use windows for not working app right?
[12:12] <zoidberg_> hey guys
[12:13] <vip3rousmango> helo
[12:13] <zoidberg_> where can i get help with beryl?
[12:13] <Kalamansi> and those for working app i will use them to ubuntu
[12:13] <Myrtti> !effects | zoidberg_
[12:13] <ubotu> zoidberg_: For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[12:13] <revilodraw> could somebody pls pm me to see if it will work... it seems i cant have a private convo for some reason
[12:13] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, for most things there is other software, like for all microsoft office software you have open office, and gimp should be good enough for most things that you do on websites instead of photoshop
[12:13] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, but if they are professional designers then they probably want photoshop
[12:14] <Kalamansi> hello can someone here copy and paste the logs the time i was asking question when i first join?email is allanmagvil@yahoo.com
[12:14] <revilodraw> thanks vip3rousmango
[12:14] <vip3rousmango> revilodraw: yeah no prob
[12:14] <VIrUZ__> ryanne @ #security :  I fogot my root password...
[12:14] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, you can also run photoshop in a virtual machine which WILL work, although the performance might not be good
[12:14] <AshyIsMe> is there a gcc-3.2 package for feisty somewhere?
[12:14] <AshyIsMe> or does anyone know where i can find one?
[12:14] <shiester_miester> AshyIsMe, have you googled it?
[12:14] <nomad> hey
[12:14] <AshyIsMe> shiester_miester: yes
[12:14] <vip3rousmango> hello
[12:14] <revilodraw> does anyone know anything about xorg and ati video cards?
[12:14] <AshyIsMe> didnt find much
[12:14] <shiester_miester> hey nomad
[12:14] <shiester_miester> oh ok
[12:15] <nomad> shiester_miester ^^
[12:15] <Frogzoo> !ati | revilodraw
[12:15] <ubotu> revilodraw: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:15] <nomad> i have a question
[12:15] <shiester_miester> im sure you do, nomad
[12:15] <crank> I have a question too
[12:15] <shiester_miester> wow, two at once
[12:15] <crank> XD
[12:15] <shiester_miester> someone call guiness
[12:15] <vip3rousmango> lol
[12:15] <nomad> what would you recommend, apt-get or aptitude
[12:15] <revilodraw> frogzoo: ?? can u help me? i havent been able to login to my computer for 3 days
[12:15] <shiester_miester> nomad, apt-get
[12:15] <ryanne> In #security someone adviced me to boot into single user mode and set a new root pass, but how do I boot into single user mode with Ubuntu?
[12:15] <vip3rousmango> apt-get
[12:15] <crank> im installing my ubuntu suing Wubi
[12:15] <crank> using*
[12:15] <shiester_miester> nomad, although aptitude seems to work for some things that apt-get doesnt do, and i have no idea why
[12:16] <crank> and.. how u make sure it doesnt delete all ur windows?
[12:16] <giannino> hi all, New Project Open Source: http://www.openstandardinitiative.org/  with 2 poll - Open Source Development Poll: It is for developers with some experience in this are of expertise.
[12:16] <giannino> Open Source Business Poll: It is for companies and/or people are working within realities that already have open source business models, or will migrate soon.
[12:16] <crank> or isnt that possible with ubuntu?
[12:16] <astro76> ryanne, that's pointless and bad advice
[12:16] <shiester_miester> doesnt the "apt" in "apt-get" stand for "aptitude"
[12:16] <astro76> !sudo | ryanne
[12:16] <ubotu> ryanne: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:16] <crank> or isnt that possible with ubuntu?
[12:16] <skyion> ! why does firefox keep crashing
[12:16] <siti> shiester_miester: another package tool
[12:16] <shiester_miester> crank, what?
[12:16] <shiester_miester> skyion, no idea
[12:17] <shiester_miester> crank, what are you doing?
[12:17] <vip3rousmango> crank, I've never used wubi.. but ubuntu is duel boot friendly
[12:17] <nomad> shiester_miester: i reinstalled my ubuntu 2 hours ago and i used aptitude to install some packages ... now i don't know whether i can switch to apt-get without any 	consequences
[12:17] <shiester_miester> no i dont think they are
[12:17] <Myrtti> nomad: why would you want to switch to apt-get?
[12:17] <giannino> hi all, New Project Open Source: http://www.openstandardinitiative.org/  with 2 poll - Open Source Development Poll: It is for developers with some experience in this are of expertise.
[12:17] <giannino> Open Source Business Poll: It is for companies and/or people are working within realities that already have open source business models, or will migrate soon.
[12:17] <shiester_miester> Myrtti, is it an issue of "switching"?
[12:17] <AshyIsMe> if i install a package from an older version of ubuntu is it likely to fuck a lot of things?
[12:17] <metbsd> cuz apt-get is easier to type than aptitude
[12:17] <shiester_miester> Myrtti, isnt a package a package?
[12:17] <AshyIsMe> the package being gcc-3.2
[12:18] <Myrtti> shiester_miester: his words, not mine
[12:18] <ryanne> ubotu, don' t we need a root password before we can use sudo?
[12:18] <crank> Shiester_Miester i send u a pm
[12:18] <shiester_miester> AshyIsMe, i dont think so, and please dont swear
[12:18] <Myrtti> ryanne: no
[12:18] <AshyIsMe> shiester_miester: oops, sorry
[12:18] <ryanne> astro76, how can I use sudo if I fogot my root pass?
[12:18] <astro76> ryanne, sudo uses the users password (first user is automatically added to sudoers)
[12:18] <shiester_miester> crank, you cant message me if you arent a registered user
[12:18] <Myrtti> ryanne: there is no root pass
[12:19] <Myrtti> ryanne: there shouldn't be
[12:19] <shiester_miester> you need a password, though
[12:19] <shiester_miester> yeah you do :/
[12:19] <crank> o
[12:19] <crank> shiester
[12:19] <shiester_miester> every time i use sudo it asks me for a pw
[12:19] <crank> Do u know Wubi?
[12:19] <shiester_miester> crank, nope
[12:19] <Myrtti> shiester_miester: it's your own, not root's pass
[12:19] <revilodraw> anyone on earth that knows how to make my xorg configured for my ati video card pls help me
[12:19] <crank> aww
[12:19] <shiester_miester> ah ok
[12:19] <shiester_miester> revilodraw, absolutely
[12:19] <shiester_miester> revilodraw, oh sorry, i thought that was a question
[12:19] <revilodraw> shiester_meister: hahah thanks for getting my hopes up
[12:19] <ryanne> Myrtti, oh yes it asks for a password
[12:20] <shiester_miester> revilodraw, why dont you become that person who knows about it
[12:20] <nomad> Myrtti: i used it before and i use it no a long time. furthermore the speed is better, isnt it? but i don'r realy know ... and i don't know if there is a way to avoid any complications with apt-get and aptitude
[12:20] <Myrtti> ryanne: what asks?
[12:20] <aznpridechinese> !sound card
[12:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sound card - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:20] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester:can i have you ym ,msn sir?
[12:20] <ryanne> Myrtti, sudo asks for a password
[12:20] <revilodraw> shiester_mesiter: i will once i have fixed it!!
[12:20] <Kalamansi> if its okay
[12:20] <Myrtti> nomad: basically there's no risk. But aptitude has a bit more features that made me prefer it over apt-get
[12:20] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, if you promise not to annoy the crap out of me :P
[12:20] <Kalamansi> promise sir =)
[12:21] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, go to www.anomalousdevelopment.com.au, and email me your hotmail account and I'll add you
[12:21] <_6StringKng_> k, my media keyboard, the play/pause button worked fine with Rhythmbox music player but doesnt for amarok, anyone know how to fix this?
[12:21] <shiester_miester> i mean, not your hotmail account...your email address for msn
[12:21] <Myrtti> ryanne: did you read the page from the link ubotu gave you?
[12:21] <Kalamansi> ahhh you are also from australia cool
[12:21] <shiester_miester> yep
[12:22] <Myrtti> ryanne: it's not root password the sudo is asking, if you've not enabled root password (and you shouldn't))
[12:22] <revilodraw> 6stringkng: yes, its in the amarok settings... do it two or three times and it worked for me
[12:22] <Lucios> hi
[12:22] <shiester_miester> Myrtti, why not?
[12:22] <shiester_miester> gday Lucios
[12:22] <revilodraw> lucious; hi
[12:22] <revilodraw> shiester_meister: r u form australia too?
[12:22] <Lucios> got this error when to connect my openvpn at my office --> http://pastebin.com/945772
[12:22] <shiester_miester> yup
[12:22] <askand> !paste
[12:22] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:22] <ryanne> Myrtti, this machine is my sisters machine and I installed it a year ago. I have no clue wether I ever enterred a root pass, and If i did what the pass might be
[12:22] <kismet> _6StringKng_, http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Gnome+Multimedia+Keys?content=60910
[12:23] <Lucios> shiester_miester: good day
[12:23] <revilodraw> shiester_meister: do u think daniel johns ever smoked up with bono and the politician?
[12:23] <shiester_miester> what form are the ubuntu passwords stored in?
[12:23] <Myrtti> shiester_miester: because many things in ubuntu are preferred to be done with sudo, most of the graphical tools that require root privileges ask for the password of the user logged in and having admin rights
[12:23] <shiester_miester> revilodraw, no idea
[12:23] <shiester_miester> oh ok
[12:23] <nomad> Myrtti: granted that i would choose apt-get, could i remove packages with their depandance packages which i installed wich aptitude?
[12:23] <shiester_miester> Myrtti, is there a disadvantage to setting a root pw?
[12:24] <Lucios> shiester_miester: u know what wrong?
[12:24] <vip3rousmango> shiester_miester: yeah, when you forget it you're screwed
[12:24] <revilodraw> if i were to send someone my xorg.conf file would they check it for a glaringly obvious error?
[12:24] <Panthe1> Hi all I just wanted to say thanks to every1 earlier for helping me change from Xubuntu to Ubuntu, it is working beautifully. No I just need to get the sound working but thats another problem altogether:)
[12:24] <Kalamansi> shiester_miester: are you a programmer or who created the ubuntu?
[12:24] <Myrtti> !root | shiester_miester
[12:24] <ubotu> shiester_miester: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[12:24] <Myrtti> shiester_miester: yes.
[12:24] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, no way, I'm just a web developer
[12:24] <Kalamansi> cool
[12:25] <Kalamansi> ok done emailing
[12:25] <Kalamansi> thanks again sir
[12:25] <shiester_miester> Myrtti, lol, amusing
[12:25] <Kalamansi> i have to eat
[12:25] <Kalamansi> its late
[12:25] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, ok then
[12:25] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, i added you to my msn, by the way
[12:25] <Myrtti> work -->
[12:25] <Kalamansi> thanks ubuntu studio!!
[12:25] <Kalamansi> its nice
[12:25] <revilodraw> if i were to send someone my xorg.conf file would they check it for a glaringly obvious error?
[12:25] <vip3rousmango> anyone experiance freezing with wine when playing CS?
[12:25] <Lucios> need to seek programming developer of ubuntu
[12:25] <Kalamansi> very fast to connect in the internet
[12:25] <Kalamansi> =)
[12:26] <astro76> !pastebin | revilodraw paste it here
[12:26] <Kalamansi> bye
[12:26] <ubotu> revilodraw paste it here: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:26] <vip3rousmango> Lucios: check the ubuntu forums or the ubuntu dev chan
[12:26] <Kalamansi> dinner time
[12:26] <shiester_miester> Kalamansi, bye
[12:26] <shiester_miester> Lucios, there are a bunch of channels with stuff like that in it
[12:26] <Lucios> dev chan?
[12:26] <shiester_miester> theres the one for the kernel
[12:26] <shiester_miester> but i dont know what it is
[12:26] <Lucios> ok..
[12:26] <Judg3_Dr34D> vip3rousmango: how did you make it to platy cs?
[12:26] <shiester_miester> #ubuntu-kernel or somethin
[12:26] <Lucios> shiester_miester: thank you sir
[12:26] <shiester_miester> apparently thats the right one...a good guess :P
[12:26] <vip3rousmango> Judg3_Dr34D: I installed Steam via Wine..
[12:27] <shiester_miester> and whats with all these people calling me "sir" :/
[12:27] <nomad> Myrtti: granted that i would choose apt-get, could i remove packages with their depandance packages which i installed wich aptitude?
[12:27] <sci3ntist> Hey guys
[12:27] <vip3rousmango> hello
[12:27] <Judg3_Dr34D> vip3rousmango: so install wine through synaptic and then install CS? do you have a link that helps?
[12:27] <shiester_miester> gday sci3ntist
[12:28] <sci3ntist>  Hey shiester
[12:28] <ryanne> Myrtti, Does Xubuntu ever ask to enter a root password?
[12:28] <revilodraw> can someone pls look at my xorg.conf file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29346/
[12:28] <sci3ntist> i got a problem with nfs
[12:28] <vip3rousmango> Judg3_Dr34D: yeah one sec.. let me find it
[12:28] <shiester_miester> the network sharing system?
[12:28] <sci3ntist> yea
[12:28] <Myrtti> ryanne: no
[12:29] <revilodraw> scientist; have u tried automatic
[12:29] <sci3ntist> i got a broken link to an nfs share
[12:29] <vip3rousmango> Judg3_Dr34D: install Wine via: sudo apt-get install wine
[12:29] <shiester_miester> sci3ntist, i have a problem with it too :P i cant use it
[12:29] <sci3ntist> how do i fix it ?
[12:29] <binski> Hello, can anyone tell me how I can run hellanzb (or any program in console) so that it starts at boot and puts it output on /dev/tty7 or an other terminal?
[12:29] <shiester_miester> dunno
[12:29] <sci3ntist> yea
[12:29] <shiester_miester> binski, thats a pretty complex request
[12:29] <shiester_miester> binski, you can probably do that with a script of some kind
[12:29] <shiester_miester> like a shell script
[12:29] <vip3rousmango> Judg3_Dr34D: once you have wine installed people in #winehq can help with the patching of steam so it can install/update correctly
[12:30] <binski> shiester_miester, i tried searching but i cant find any..
[12:30] <ryanne> Myrtti, how do I get into "su -" then?
[12:30] <Judg3_Dr34D> vip3rousmango: ok I'll get on to it once I get home :) mille merci
[12:30] <binski> shiester_miester, i thought it would be easy to do so.. just some command i didnt know about
[12:30] <vip3rousmango> Judg3_Dr34D: no problem :)
[12:30] <shiester_miester> its probably a whole bunch of commands
[12:30] <astro76> nomad, apt-get has an autoremove option for awhile now (apt-get autoremove packagename)
[12:30] <shiester_miester> binski, make a script that runs it and sends the output to a console or something like that
[12:30] <towlieba> i need help configuring x windows. i installed ubuntu under parallels on a macbook pro . xorg.conf says that the device is vesa. how do i create the right xorg.conf file ? ive been searching but havent found aything helpful
[12:31] <astro76> nomad, which will remove no longer needed dependencies, also there is deborphan/gtkorphan
[12:31] <shiester_miester> binski, yeah i think you can just write to tty1-7 just like a file
[12:31] <revilodraw> this is my 4th night in a row trying to fix my xorg configuration to work with my ati video card so i can boot into feisty can someone PLEASE help me? here is my xorg.conf file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29346/
[12:32] <JimQode_> binski, terminal devices are /dev/tty0-8
[12:32] <Judg3_Dr34D> So, isn't there a script for nautilus that will popup a preview of an image or text when I hover over it?
[12:32] <shiester_miester> JimQode_, although im having trouble telling it to write to them
[12:33] <shiester_miester> JimQode_, echo asdf > /bin/tty1 just gives me a "permission denied" error
[12:33] <kismet> Judg3_Dr34D, try asking in ##Gnome
[12:33] <JimQode_> shiester_miester, chmod a+w /dev/tty1
[12:33] <binski> shiester_miester, i tried that using this: 'hellanzb > /dev/tty8' but i got acces denied, even when i tried starting hellanzb with sudo (which i do not want ofcourse)
[12:33] <Judg3_Dr34D> kismet: thanks :)
[12:33] <towlieba> anyone ??
[12:33] <JimQode_> binski, chmod a+w /dev/tty8
[12:33] <shiester_miester> JimQode_, are you sure its ok to change permissions on the consoles :/ or is that just their outputs
[12:33] <shiester_miester> a
[12:33] <shiester_miester> oops
[12:33] <ryanne> Does the alternate install cd of Xubuntu ever ask for a root password?
[12:34] <revilodraw>  this is my 4th night in a row trying to fix my xorg configuration to work with my ati video card so i can boot into feisty can someone PLEASE help me? here is my xorg.conf file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29346/
[12:34] <JimQode_> shiester_miester, I don't think giving write permission to a vs would matter as long as you dont care about users writing to that terminal screen
[12:34] <kanpachi> hello, is there any working apple//c /e emulator for ubuntu? i couldn't get apple2 working :(
[12:34] <shiester_miester> JimQode_, oh ok
[12:34] <kanpachi> and for some strage reason, i can't also see the userlist on the left
[12:34] <NineTeen67Comet> Hi all I just tossed Feisty on this box (After an awesome several moths with Edgy) and I've got zero sound. Followed several fix-it sites, and still silence .. Audigy 1 PCI alsamixer unmuted, and alsa-source redone ..
[12:34] <NineTeen67Comet> help?
[12:34] <menisk> I've attempted to install the latest ATI driver according some instructions I've found on the internet, but it is using Mesa to render OGL stuff which screws up XGL for me, can anyone help?
[12:35] <shiester_miester> menisk, have you tried using AIGLX
[12:35] <ryanne> menisk, maybe try #xorg?
[12:35] <JimQode_> menisk, are you trying to do compositing?
[12:35] <shiester_miester> or was that just for nvidia :/
[12:35] <menisk> Not using AIGLX.
[12:35] <revilodraw> i cant get into feisty because xorg isnt correctly configured... pls help
[12:36] <menisk> Compositing is set to 0 which I assume is disable.
[12:36] <kanpachi> anyone knows any working apple//c /e emulator for ubuntu? except apple2?
[12:36] <shiester_miester> kanpachi, nope
[12:36] <menisk> Same settings as when I had the 8.34.8 drivers
[12:36] <JimQode_> menisk, ok. because ATI drivers don't support compositing
[12:36] <kanpachi> oh :(
[12:36] <binski> JimQode_, shiester_miester: ok so if i want to run hellanzb at boot with the as user mtlife, with output on tty8 -> chmod a+w /dev/tty8 (one time).. but how do i run it at boot for that user?
[12:36] <menisk> Is 0 on or off?
[12:36] <shiester_miester> menisk, off
[12:36] <kanpachi> thanx anyways
[12:37] <revilodraw> jimqode; what is compisiting?
[12:37] <metbsd> anyone know a free web hosting site?
[12:37] <shiester_miester> menisk, dunno
[12:37] <menisk> JimQode_, Compositing is off.
[12:37] <towlieba> can someone please explain how i configure xorg in ubuntu
[12:37] <shiester_miester> metbsd, www.atspace.com
[12:37] <JimQode_> binski, write it to /etc/init.d/rc.local
[12:37] <revilodraw> metbsd; megaupload.com
[12:37] <NineTeen67Comet> metbsd .. can you run your own? I run several small old servers through my slow cable connection and it works well (just can't toss roun' big files)
[12:38] <shiester_miester> metbsd, you can also set up your own computer as a web host and use a dns redirect to give yourself a permanent domain name, that way you can do whatever you want with the web host.  usually the free ones suck
[12:38] <JimQode_> revilodraw, beryil and compiz use compositing extension to draw.
[12:38] <SAndre> hello
[12:38] <menisk> shiester_miester, I tried to install over the top of the 8.34.8 ones from the ubuntu repo using the 8.38.4 drivers
[12:38] <shiester_miester> gday SAndre
[12:38] <JimQode_> menisk, what does glxgears say?
[12:38] <menisk> shiester_miester, Will that screw it up?
[12:38] <shiester_miester> i dont know, menisk
[12:38] <NineTeen67Comet> metbsd:  I use afraid.org to run my dns forward goodies...
[12:38] <revilodraw> jimqode; i am in the livecd...i would like to remove beryl from my startup programs.. which file on my hd do i edit?
[12:39] <shiester_miester> metbsd, i used atspace.com myself a little while ago until i moved on to bigger things
[12:39] <menisk> JimQode_, menisk@RustySpork:~$ glxgears
[12:39] <menisk> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[12:39] <menisk> 2346 frames in 5.2 seconds = 452.597 FPS
[12:39] <menisk> 2368 frames in 5.3 seconds = 444.443 FPS
[12:39] <menisk> 2474 frames in 5.0 seconds = 494.712 FPS
[12:39] <shiester_miester> they dont even spam your site with ads
[12:39] <menisk> JimQode_, glxgears doesn't run smoothly like when the ATI drivers worked.
[12:40] <menisk> JimQode_, menisk@RustySpork:~$ fglrxinfo
[12:40] <menisk> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[12:40] <menisk> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[12:40] <menisk> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[12:40] <menisk> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[12:40] <metbsd> shiester_miester, what do you use now?
[12:40] <menisk> OpenGL version string: 1.4 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.2)
[12:40] <shiester_miester> >400fps is pretty smooth to me :P
[12:40] <JimQode_> menisk, !pastebin
[12:40] <JimQode_> !pastebin | menish
[12:40] <ubotu> menish: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:40] <shiester_miester> metbsd, an actual web host company
[12:40] <JimQode_> !pastebin | menisk
[12:40] <ubotu> menisk: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:40] <revilodraw>  i am in the livecd...i would like to remove beryl from my startup programs.. which file on my hd do i edit?
[12:40] <shiester_miester> metbsd, if you want to try them out, www.studiocoast.com.au
[12:41] <menisk> shiester_miester, It doesn't look like 400... It looks like 3, I think it lies.
[12:41] <shiester_miester> but unless you are running a business website or something, i dont think you will want to pay for it
[12:41] <astro76> revilodraw, you don't have a "Files" section for fonts, not sure if that matters
[12:41] <shiester_miester> metbsd, what sort of thing were you wanting to host?
[12:41] <Judg3_Dr34D> !time
[12:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about time - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:42] <menisk> JimQode_, Any ideas?
[12:42] <revilodraw> astro76; no idea what u r talking about sorry... all i want to do is change the file responsible for making beryl start on startup... i want to stop beryl starting up, but im in the livecd
[12:42] <metbsd> shiester_miester, just simple ads page that talks about my business, one page is enough
[12:42] <JimQode_> menisk, hmm can you paste your xorg.conf to pastebin?
[12:42] <shiester_miester> metbsd, yeah probably use a free one like www.atspace.com
[12:42] <shiester_miester> or you could just host it yourself
[12:42] <menisk> Okay.
[12:42] <metbsd> host is is a bit trouble some
[12:43] <shiester_miester> hosting it yourself would give you much better flexibility
[12:43] <astro76> revilodraw, here's my xorg.conf if you want to compare, I am not using any desktop effects http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29351/
[12:43] <shiester_miester> since you can do whatever you want with it
[12:43] <revilodraw> astro76: THANK YOU
[12:43] <shiester_miester> but the downside is you have to actually maintain it yourself too
[12:43] <Judg3_Dr34D> !xorg
[12:43] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:43] <shiester_miester> revilodraw, your problem was fixed?
[12:43] <NineTeen67Comet> metbsd: hosting is cake for the most part .. The hardest thing I had to setup were ftp (proftpd)
[12:43] <revilodraw> shiester_miester: no, but someone helped me
[12:43] <Judg3_Dr34D> !pastebin
[12:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:44] <metbsd> what ftp for
[12:44] <shiester_miester> ftps can be awkward because of all of the security issues
[12:44] <shiester_miester> metbsd, file transfers
[12:44] <menisk> JimQode_, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29352/
[12:44] <shiester_miester> for accessing the files on the web host from elsewhere on the internet
[12:44] <metbsd> why webserver need ftp
[12:45] <shiester_miester> well, unless you can physically put a disk into it, you need a way to put files on it
[12:45] <don_martino> i found nerd dating rules here http://ubuntuos.com/?p=376. one rule says: no "what did the BIOS say to the RAM" jokes. does anybody know one of those?
[12:45] <BlueStorm> Nitro tha CiMien
[12:45] <shiester_miester> metbsd, if the webserver is located in a different location, you need an ftp server (or something like it) to be able to actually put files on it
[12:45] <menisk> JimQode_, Anything wrong with it?
[12:46] <JimQode_> menisk, is this the default xorg.conf that came with your driver?
[12:46] <metbsd> why not just use ftp client to download files to web server?
[12:46] <shiester_miester> metbsd, and what does the ftp client connect to?
[12:46] <shiester_miester> metbsd, it connects to an ftp server ;)
[12:46] <shiester_miester> if you dont have an ftp server running, ftp clients won't work, ever
[12:46] <rambo3> meh just make php upload and be done quick
[12:47] <metbsd> oh right
[12:47] <metbsd> so you still need ftp server
[12:47] <shiester_miester> rambo3, php uploads use the HTTP protocol which is not as good as FTP imo
[12:47] <shiester_miester> metbsd, you need one on the web server, yes
[12:47] <metbsd> but there's a default ftpd in ubuntu? the one work with inetd
[12:47] <rambo3> shiester_miester, ftp sucks
[12:47] <menisk> JimQode_, I missed your last message, Xchat died.
[12:47] <shiester_miester> rambo3, not for uploading files.  its much better than HTTP for large files, for instance
[12:48] <towlieba> what do i do if i run dpkg -i filename.deb in ubuntu and it doesnt find the file ?
[12:48] <astro76> towlieba, no .deb, just the package name
[12:48] <rambo3> !ot | shiester_miester,
[12:49] <ubotu> shiester_miester,: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:49] <towlieba> astro76, the site i am following says to use .deb
[12:49] <shiester_miester> rambo3, why bring it up if you don't want to talk about it
[12:49] <towlieba> i tried without .deb and i get the same error
[12:49] <JimQode_> menisk, do you have a command called aticonfig?
[12:49] <towlieba> cannot process archive: no such file or diretory
[12:49] <menisk> Yes.
[12:49] <astro76> towlieba, right sorry, you're trying to install a deb you downloaded, what is it?
[12:50] <rambo3> shiester_miester, its ok with 1 or 2 rows of ot . but you are taking it a whole page. still #ubuntu-offtopic . Ftp vs Http has been debated for long time .
[12:50] <menisk> JimQode_, The issue is that it just wants to use Mesa for OGL.
[12:50] <shiester_miester> ok ok, whatever
[12:50] <towlieba> astro76, i am at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=198453 at the video section. theres a command to install a .deb file
[12:50] <menisk> JimQode_, I'm desperate.
[12:50] <JimQode_> menisk, do you have a command called aticonfig?
[12:51] <menisk> JimQode_, Yes.
[12:51] <JimQode_> menisk, try this: aticonfig --initial --input=/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:51] <towlieba> astro76, got any ideas?
[12:51] <astro76> towlieba, double check you got the filename right, tab completion help. and did you use sudo?
[12:51] <towlieba> yes i did use sudo
[12:51] <usu521> ola
[12:52] <towlieba> astro76, i didnt download the file though
[12:52] <astro76> towlieba, yeah you need the file downloaded
[12:52] <towlieba> how ?
[12:52] <towlieba> where do i get it form
[12:52] <towlieba> from
[12:53] <astro76> towlieba, is there a reason you can't use what is in ubuntu's repositories?
[12:53] <towlieba> yea i tried and it doesnt work
[12:53] <menisk> JimQode_, It says it found fglrx n the device section, nothing to do and exited.
[12:53] <astro76> towlieba, how doesn't it work?
[12:54] <astro76> towlieba, for example, you do sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[12:54] <towlieba> when i set the device to fglrx in xorg.conf it says no devices
[12:54] <towlieba> i did that
[12:54] <JimQode_> menisk, hmm out of ideas then. but try restarting X, just in case
[12:55] <menisk> I have 5 or 6 times.
[12:55] <kazim59> If somebody accidentally deletes her panel (gnome-panel) by right clicking -> Delete Panel, what should she do?
[12:55] <menisk> JimQode_, It just doesn't want to play nice.
[12:55] <RainCT> kazim59: create a new one and put the stuff again there. happened to me yesterday :/
[12:56] <towlieba> astro76, i did apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[12:56] <astro76> towlieba, what version Ubuntu are you using?
[12:56] <kazim59> RainCT: How did you create a new one?
[12:56] <JimQode_> kazim59, right click on existing panel
[12:56] <towlieba> astro76, 7.04
[12:56] <berent> on a 256MB RAM and p3 500MHz when I open oracle xe and oracle jdeveloper system becomes slow even though system monitor shows memory used as 72% and swap used as 25%. why why and why? and also swap(1 GB) is placed next to my os
[12:56] <towlieba> astro76, can i pm you
[12:56] <berent> i am on feisty
[12:56] <kazim59> there's no existing panel showing up... !
[12:56] <astro76> towlieba, there's a line (./ati-driver-installer-8.27.10-x86.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/dapper), and you're running feisty, not dapper
[12:56] <towlieba> oh
[12:57] <RainCT> kazim59: oh, then I don't know :(
[12:57] <kazim59> JimQode_: there's no place to right click! Also, gnome-panel (when started from terminal) says "I've detected an already running panel. Will exit now." !?
[12:58] <berent> on a 256MB RAM and p3 500MHz when I open oracle xe and oracle jdeveloper system becomes slow even though system monitor shows memory used as 72% and swap used as 25%. why why and why? and also swap(1 GB) is placed next to my os, i am on feisty
[12:58] <JimQode_> kazim59, you lost both your panels?
[12:58] <Judg3_Dr34D> kazim59: maybe you have enabled auto-hide???
[12:58] <menisk> JimQode_,  When I modprobe fglrx it says it can't be found
[12:59] <JimQode_> menisk, did you restart your computer after installing the driver?
[12:59] <towlieba> astro76, so do i just change dapper to feisty ?
[12:59] <Frogzoo> anyone else notice escape sequences in gnome-terminal are misbehaving in feisty?
[12:59] <astro76> towlieba, not sure, it's worth a try
[12:59] <sysop> G'day, I'm trying to install win98 on my computer which has ubuntu already on it, problem is that the win98 cd gets recongnized as bootable but wont boot (its a scsi cdrom) so im trying to make a floppy boot disk,  how do i format a floppy disk in msdos format and make it bootable ?
[12:59] <RainCT> btw, will I lose something if I do "killall gnome-panel" or will it just reload and continue as before? (I gave Wanda freedom and now it's annoying me lol)
[01:00] <berent> Frogzoo : my login screen appears twice when i start system
[01:00] <shiester_miester> sysop, why on earth would you want to install windows 98 :/
[01:00] <menisk> JimQode_,
[01:00] <Frogzoo> berent: annoying
[01:00] <sysop> games of cvourse
[01:00] <menisk> JimQode_, Yes
[01:00] <shiester_miester> windows 98 is one of the reasons that linux became popular :P
[01:00] <metbsd> must for certain applications
[01:00] <sysop> *course
[01:00] <shiester_miester> sysop, use windows xp for games, its significantly better
[01:00] <berent> Frogzoo : yes
[01:00] <sysop> my comp is p3 500
[01:00] <metbsd> netbsd
[01:01] <sysop> and i want to play dos games
[01:01] <Judg3_Dr34D> sysop: http://www.bootdisk.com/
[01:01] <menisk> sysop, you can run solitaire! Just.
[01:01] <berent> sysop : you want dave?
[01:01] <shiester_miester> until it gives you a BSOD
[01:01] <sysop> lol
[01:01] <berent> sysop : how is speed with feisty
[01:01] <JimQode_> menisk, nothing more I can say. Try going back to free drivers by disabling it from restricted driver manager.
[01:02] <shiester_miester> you still in here, Zlooot? :P
[01:02] <sysop> opening multiple tabs in firefox bogs it down alot
[01:02] <shiester_miester> i thought you had left
[01:02] <menisk> Okay.
[01:02] <berent> on a 256MB RAM and p3 500MHz when I open oracle xe and oracle jdeveloper system becomes slow even though system monitor shows memory used as 72% and swap used as 25%. why why and why? and also swap(1 GB) is placed next to my os, i am on feisty
[01:02] <Frogzoo> sysop: dosemu
[01:03] <shiester_miester> i use dosbox to play dos games, works perfectly
[01:03] <daan> berent: 25% swap is a little much
[01:03] <shiester_miester> Frogzoo, is dosemu linux software?
[01:03] <yalu_> hello... what is a good place to hunt for usplash themes? A windows-like bootsplash theme would be fun :-)
[01:03] <berent> daan : what do you mean
[01:03] <sysop> ive got dosbox but win98 would run most games alot smother
[01:03] <Frogzoo> it might be called dosbox now
[01:03] <Traveler5> can anybody help me?
[01:03] <burnerx> how can i watch rmvb or rm files ?
[01:03] <Traveler5> i'm having a problem
[01:03] <shiester_miester> sysop, why not install DOS? :P
[01:03] <metbsd> mpalyer
[01:03] <daan> berent: it means that your normal memory is full
[01:03] <shiester_miester> you can download the whole OS onto a few floppy disks
[01:03] <rambo3> !restricted | burnerx
[01:03] <ubotu> burnerx: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:03] <sysop> well i have FreeDos
[01:04] <metbsd> what's freedos anyway
[01:04] <sysop> dos but better
[01:04] <berent> daan : you mean always 75% of swap remains unused . my normal memory - meaning RAM?
[01:04] <sysop> no ms
[01:04] <BadRobot> hi there
[01:04] <Traveler5> ANYBODY want to help me?
[01:04] <Traveler5> hello/
[01:04] <shiester_miester> Traveler5, absolutely
[01:04] <shiester_miester> :/
[01:04] <daan> berent: no i mean if 25% of your swap is full then your memory is about 100% full
[01:04] <Frogzoo> shiester_miester: http://dosemu.sourceforge.net/
[01:05] <shiester_miester> ah, im guessing thats a yes
[01:05] <shiester_miester> im not going to use it, i was just curious
[01:05] <sysop> anyway how would i format a floppy in VFAT ?
[01:05] <daan> berent: oracle is probably eating alot
[01:05] <shiester_miester> i dont play dos games...ive played through them all like 10 times each by now, lol
[01:05] <sysop> dune is one of my favs
[01:05] <daan> sysop: mkfs.vfat
[01:05] <gnomefreak> sysop: gparted
[01:05] <JimQode_> sysop, mkfs.vfat /dev/fd0
[01:05] <sysop> cheers
[01:05] <berent> daan : what is "your memory" - ram?
[01:05] <shiester_miester> brb, chocolate
[01:06] <tego> why some times i havent connection and cant find server  now  i open  i get  it?
[01:06] <sysop> gparted doesn't see floppies
[01:06] <daan> berent: yes
[01:06] <BadRobot> I am trying to install Ubuntu from a original LiveCd(the ones that i order from the Ubuntu ship it)but i can't get it to work.I've an ASUS A6000KM.Do you guys which version should i use "i386 or x86_64"?
[01:06] <berent> daan: that is only 70% used i saw it in system monitor
[01:06] <daan> berent: well you could play around with the swappiness setting
[01:06] <BadRobot> please help!!!
[01:07] <berent> daan : how?
[01:07] <aly> hi guys i have some problem after update compiz fusion u guys have 2 ?
[01:07] <rambo3> BadRobot, and error is ?
[01:07] <daan> berent: let me check
[01:07] <rambo3> BadRobot, 64 is for 64 bit processors
[01:08] <daan> berent try sysctrl -w vm.swappiness=0
[01:08] <BadRobot> how do i know if i have 64 bits?
[01:08] <berent> daan : what will that do. and what shud i check after that?
[01:08] <SlimeyPete> BadRobot: google your processor name.
[01:08] <daan> berent try sudo sysctl -w vm.swappiness=0
[01:08] <BadRobot> I've AMD Sempron and Nvidia
[01:08] <SlimeyPete> BadRobot: that's2-bit
[01:08] <SlimeyPete> 32-bit
[01:08] <BadRobot> ok thx
[01:08] <daan> berent: that will use the ram as much as possible
[01:08] <gordonjcp> BadRobot: sempron is 32-bit
[01:08] <asc> Anybody use awstats? I'm trying to remove *.crawl.yahoo.net from the hosts list, and no SkipHosts regex-s seem to work.
[01:08] <sci3ntist> hey
[01:09] <rambo3> BadRobot, 386
[01:09] <daan> berent: restart oracle after that tweak and see if it helps
[01:09] <Deviad> Hello, I have created a keymap for my macbook pro keyboard
[01:09] <BadRobot> ok ,i've have look because i only managed to install PcLinuxOS on it,but i think it sucks,I like more ubuntu,
[01:09] <Deviad> How do I set it as the default keymap?
[01:10] <Deviad> I found nothing about it on google
[01:11] <berent> daan : ok wait
[01:11] <user1_> can anyone see this page? http://bbm.atspace.com/index.html
[01:12] <SlimeyPete> user1_: I can see a holding page about atspace
[01:12] <SlimeyPete> oh wait,500 internal error
[01:12] <Zoosh> Hi, im looking for a tool (graphical UI) to search & replace strings in files (recursive). Any tips?
[01:12] <JimQode_> user1_, internal error
[01:12] <user1_> strange..
[01:12] <user1_> i upgrade the page there
[01:12] <JimQode_> Zoosh, kfilereplace
[01:13] <freeze_> hi
[01:13] <Lucios> user1: internal error
[01:13] <Zoosh> JimQode: for Gnome? :)
[01:13] <asc> Zoosh: You can run kde programs in gnome.
[01:14] <Zoosh> oh .. all right! ill try :)
[01:14] <Genomsaren> hi I have a problem again. And I started to hate linux nowadays
[01:14] <asc> Zoosh: Also, I can give you a really easy recursive replace command for the terminal. :p
[01:14] <Genomsaren> everyday a new problem...
[01:14] <Genomsaren> My ubuntu crashed
[01:14] <Genomsaren> sorry crashes
[01:15] <Genomsaren> it turns back to login screen
[01:15] <Judg3_Dr34D> Genomsaren: Patience my friend
[01:15] <Zoosh> asc: hehe thanks.. ill try kfilereplace first ;)
[01:15] <troopperi_> Genomsaren: have you install something?
[01:15] <Genomsaren> my patience has a limit :)
[01:15] <asc> Zoosh: Real geeks use the command line. *grin*
[01:15] <Judg3_Dr34D> Genomsaren: did you change your graphic cards drivers
[01:15] <Genomsaren> yes I tried to to install nvidia driver and I had to reconfigure my xorg.conf
[01:16] <Lucios> Genomsaren: did u add any hardware?
[01:16] <Genomsaren> and it took my hours
[01:16] <Judg3_Dr34D> Genomsaren: i had the same problem
[01:16] <user1_> i don't know why i need to put domain name in atspace.com
[01:16] <Genomsaren> o very nice :D
[01:16] <pick> is ubuntu linux
[01:16] <KomiaPoika> ubuntu is a linux distribution
[01:16] <Zoosh> asc: hehe g33k! i already HAVE a command ... but its not recursive ;)
[01:16] <brainiac> How can I fix this? /usr/lib/transgaming_cedega/gddb.py:19: RuntimeWarning: Python C API version mismatch for module gddb_parser: This Python has API version 1013, module gddb_parser has version 1012.
[01:16] <Genomsaren> linux is the kernel name ubuntu, suse , debian, redhat are linux distrubtions
[01:16] <pick> thanks komia
[01:16] <Judg3_Dr34D> Genomsaren: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the Driver at the Device section to nv to get GUI again
[01:17] <Zoosh> asc: and a graphical UI (with some reporting) is nice too :)
[01:17] <pick> seem very hard
[01:17] <pick> to use
[01:17] <towlieba> i cant get anything to work
[01:17] <gobbo_> hi
[01:17] <towlieba> on my new install of ubuntu
[01:17] <asc> Zoosh: Bah.
[01:17] <berent> daan : still swap is 20% even when memory used in about 60%
[01:17] <Genomsaren> ok
[01:17] <pick> can i use ubuntu with windows xp
[01:17] <troopperi_> gobbo_: hi
[01:18] <user1_> yes pick
[01:18] <Lucios> pick: yes..
[01:18] <Judg3_Dr34D> Genomsaren: after you make the change Ctrl+x to close the file and say yes to save the changes
[01:18] <brainiac> pick, what's the sence in that?
[01:18] <Judg3_Dr34D> Genomsaren: then reboot
[01:18] <Genomsaren> Judg3_Dr34D: it is already so
[01:18] <KomiaPoika> pick: lol
[01:18] <pick> so if i wanna use xp i use that or if i wonna use ubunto i use that brainiac
[01:18] <Genomsaren> Judg3_Dr34D: during my reconfiguration I did it nv
[01:18] <daan> berent: you can try making it permanent, rebooting and trying again
[01:19] <ZeroGig> Hi all
[01:19] <Judg3_Dr34D> Genomsaren: and you still can't get GUI?
[01:19] <daan> berent: you have to edit /etc/sysctl.conf to do that
[01:19] <Genomsaren> no I can get GUI
[01:19] <berent> daan : ok
[01:19] <pick> how do i do that
[01:19] <towlieba> can anyone help me ? ill pay you if you can help me get this thing working
[01:19] <Judg3_Dr34D> Genomsaren: what's the problem then?
[01:19] <Genomsaren> Judg3_Dr34D: but during openning any software it crashes
[01:19] <daan> berent: just add this line to that file: vm.swappiness=0
[01:19] <Genomsaren> but not always
[01:19] <gobbo_> what is the next release called?
[01:19] <pick> put ubunto on windows xp
[01:19] <Genomsaren> luck :D
[01:20] <berent> daan : ok
[01:20] <brainiac> pick, that's a totally different thing... using them parallel is absolutely possible... ubuntu installation will detect the win partition and include it to its bootmanager... then, when booting, you can select which OS to boot
[01:20] <erUSUL> !helpme | towlieba
[01:20] <ubotu> towlieba: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:20] <Judg3_Dr34D> Genomsaren: I'm a noob too, but maybe if you reinstalled the nvidia drivers and more specifically nvidia-glx?
[01:20] <towlieba> i installed ubuntu on a macbook pro. i can boot when the driver is set to vesa in xorg.conf but i cant figure out how to configure it to use an ati driver
[01:20] <Deviad> Hello, pls. I have to load a keymap of my own for the console on boot. Can anyone pls tell me how to do it?
[01:20] <Deviad> I have found no guide about it
[01:20] <Genomsaren> Judg3_Dr34D: something else happened too if it helps, some icons on my panles has changed thier places
[01:20] <pick> so how do i do that with out losing my xp brainiac
[01:20] <Deviad> I'm not asking for the moon
[01:21] <ZeroGig> Does anyone know anything about Accpac a dos version?
[01:21] <Genomsaren> Judg3_Dr34D: I can send you a screenshot
[01:21] <towlieba> can someone please help me
[01:21] <ZeroGig> My problem its currently running on a novell server I wan to run it on a linux box instead
[01:21] <Judg3_Dr34D> Genomsaren: I don't think this could help as it seems that the problem is deeper
[01:22] <Genomsaren> ok if it doesnt crash Ill try to reinstall :D
[01:22] <Judg3_Dr34D> Genomsaren: which nvidia drivers  do u have installed?
[01:22] <brainiac> pick, just go into XP and free up some disc space (about 5-10 G is way enough) then insert ubuntu cd and reboot... during nstallation ubuntu will prompt you which partition to use... use the free space to create a partition... ubuntu will detect the XP partition as long as you don't accidentaly delete it..
[01:22] <Genomsaren> I have installed envy
[01:22] <brainiac> pick, by freeing uip I mean -> use partition magic or else to decrease your XP partition size
[01:22] <Genomsaren> it is a script which helps to install
[01:23] <troopperi_> !ati | towlieba
[01:23] <ubotu> towlieba: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:23] <Genomsaren> but I tried to to install from NVIDIA website before
[01:23] <brainiac> pick, just freeing up space on a partition won't work
[01:23] <Judg3_Dr34D> Genomsaren: then maybe you could completely uninstall them with envy
[01:23] <Genomsaren> and then I couldnt open ubuntu and reconfigured worg.conf
[01:23] <pick> i got only one drive and that is C brainiac
[01:23] <brainiac> pick ubuntu install will do the rest for you
[01:23] <Jordan_U> Genomsaren, Restricted Manager didn't work?
[01:23] <Genomsaren> but it is in the past
[01:24] <brainiac> pick, that's ok... get yourself partition magic, it's a prog that allows you to change partition size without loosing your data
[01:24] <Judg3_Dr34D> Genomsaren: you tried many things I see, did you uninstall the other drivers before installing with envy?
[01:24] <Genomsaren> no
[01:24] <Genomsaren> :)
[01:24] <Jordan_U> brainiac, So does gparted, and it's Free :)
[01:24] <brainiac> How can I fix this? /usr/lib/transgaming_cedega/gddb.py:19: RuntimeWarning: Python C API version mismatch for module gddb_parser: This Python has API version 1013, module gddb_parser has version 1012.
[01:25] <Judg3_Dr34D> Genomsaren: hmmmm, maybe that;s the problem
[01:25] <Genomsaren> but how can I ununinstall other drivers now I am not sure which drivers do I have
[01:25] <brainiac> Jordan_U, does it work with ntfs?
[01:25] <pick> brainiac will it detect my GFX card and my wireless card
[01:25] <Jordan_U> brainiac, Yes
[01:25] <Genomsaren> but therew asnt any warning about that in NVIDIAs website
[01:25] <brainiac> pick, most likely
[01:25] <brainiac> Jordan_U, kewl never heard of
[01:26] <brainiac> pick, get yourself gparted, it's free
[01:26] <brainiac> and does the same
[01:26] <pick> can i use the live cd to install it brainiac
[01:26] <Jordan_U> pick, It is on the LiveCD
[01:26] <brainiac> pick, that's what the cd is actually for
[01:26] <Genomsaren> Judg3_Dr34D: thanks Ill try what u said...
[01:26] <Judg3_Dr34D> Genomsaren: I don't know because I'm new too, but I think you should uninstall th current drivers that you installed through ENVY with envy.
[01:26] <brainiac> How can I fix this? /usr/lib/transgaming_cedega/gddb.py:19: RuntimeWarning: Python C API version mismatch for module gddb_parser: This Python has API version 1013, module gddb_parser has version 1012.
[01:27] <pick> but when i load it it dont install on my computer brainiac
[01:27] <Judg3_Dr34D> wiat i'll post a link maybe it'll help
[01:27] <pheaver> brainiac: i had that same problem.... google it
[01:27] <brainiac> pheaver, did you solve it?
[01:27] <pheaver> can't remember how i fixed it, but there's a way
[01:27] <brainiac> pick, of course it won't, it's a live CD... once loaded you should see an icon saying "Install"... click that
[01:28] <Jordan_U> brainiac, I thought that cediga was commercially supported?
[01:28] <mireya_pome> kpk
[01:28] <pick> i did
[01:28] <brainiac> pick, you will install ubuntu out of the live cd
[01:28] <towlieba> ubotu, those instructions dont work at the last step for ATI
[01:28] <brainiac> pick, what do you mean you did?
[01:28] <pick> but its on my computer
[01:28] <pick> dont work
[01:28] <Jordan_U> towlieba, ubotu is a bot :)
[01:28] <towlieba> troopperi_, those steos dont work
[01:28] <towlieba> steps
[01:29] <brainiac> pick, dumm question: have you burned the cd?
[01:29] <pick> yes
[01:29] <brainiac> hm..
[01:29] <pick> yep its a live cd
[01:29] <brainiac> what happens when booting from cd?
[01:29] <Jordan_U> pick, What happens when you click install?
[01:29] <pick> it works
[01:29] <troopperi_> towlieba: ati is harder install than nvidia.....thats why im using nvidia...sorry that i cant help more
[01:29] <pick> it installs
[01:29] <brainiac> pick, gratz
[01:30] <Jordan_U> pick, I thought you sad that it didn't
[01:30] <Jordan_U> ?
[01:30] <pick> it dident
[01:30] <Deviad> Hello, pls. I have to load a keymap of my own for the console on boot. Can anyone pls tell me how to do it?
[01:30] <pick> i mean this
[01:30] <thesystem> halloa
[01:30] <pick> i install ubuntu on my computer but its just a file
[01:31] <Jordan_U> pick, What do you mean just a file?
[01:31] <brainiac> pick, just make sure that while installing you don't accidentaly delete you XP partition
[01:31] <thesystem> someone knows the error: "configure: error: *** GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first ***"
[01:31] <brainiac> pick, that would be no good for your XP
[01:31] <pick> ok
[01:31] <Jordan_U> thesystem, When do you get that error?
[01:31] <pick> confuzin goin to start again
[01:31] <pick> i be back
[01:31] <thesystem> i get the error by compiling a programm
[01:31] <variant> thesystem: install glib
[01:31] <Judg3_Dr34D> thesystem: maybe you should install glib?
[01:31] <thesystem> i doesn't work :(
[01:31] <variant> thesystem: apt-cache search glib
[01:32] <Jordan_U> thesystem, What program?
[01:32] <pick> everyone thanks for givin me the help everyone
[01:32] <pick> :)
[01:32] <thesystem> one moment
[01:32] <brainiac> pick, np
[01:32] <thesystem> i downloaded the newest version: glib-2.12.9
[01:32] <thesystem> but i always get a error, moment
[01:33] <Jordan_U> thesystem, What are you trying to do?
[01:33] <variant> thesystem: did you install glib with apt-get or what?
[01:33] <variant> thesystem: you should already have glib
[01:34] <Jordan_U> thesystem, What are you trying to do?
[01:34] <thesystem> yes i know but the glib doesnt work i alway get the error: "configure: error: *** GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first ***"
[01:34] <thesystem> i want to install a player called: xmms-1.2.10
[01:35] <Jordan_U> thesystem, xmms is in the repositories
[01:35] <variant> thesystem: type sudo apt-get install xmms
[01:35] <Jordan_U> thesystem, Why are you compiling it from source?
[01:35] <daan> thesystem: or better sudo apt-get install audacious
[01:35] <theneb_> I'm trying to install mysql-server, however it can't seem to configure it. Just failing saying it can't configure
[01:35] <sk> hi all,
[01:35] <sk> I'm using Dapper as a Mail-Server with amavis-new.
[01:35] <sk> There is a known security issue for the package "file" at www.amavis.org/security.
[01:35] <sk> The solution is to update the file utility at least to Version 4.21.
[01:35] <sk> In Dapper doesn't exist any update for this package (dapper-security dapper-updates).
[01:35] <sk> Does anybody know where if there is another repository for security updates?
[01:35] <theneb_> Package mysql-server-5.0 which provides mysql-server is not configured yet
[01:36] <Jordan_U> sk Are you sure that the fix hasn't been backported?
[01:36] <thesystem> thx, i will try
[01:37] <erUSUL> sk: there is no other official repos. you should file a bug report in launchpad
[01:37] <sk> I didn't find it
[01:37] <erUSUL> !bugs | sk
[01:37] <ubotu> sk: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[01:37] <sk> I searched already the backport
[01:37] <Jordan_U> thesystem, Always check the repositories firs, you should almost never need to install from source
[01:37] <Jordan_U> *first
[01:37] <thesystem> good to know :) i'm a newbie
[01:38] <gnomefreak> sk: if it hasnt been updated yet it should be for next point release for dapper
[01:38] <Jordan_U> sk If it was backported then you wouldn't get a new version, just a patch to the old version
[01:38] <thesystem> if i type: sudo apt-get install xmms , i get the error: "E: Konnte Lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock nicht bekommen - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)"
[01:38] <Cromag_> thesystem: you might have synaptics open.
[01:39] <sk> Jordan_U, What do you mean with a patch? Compile from source?
[01:39] <variant> de | thesystem
[01:39] <variant> !de | thesystem
[01:39] <ubotu> thesystem: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:39] <daan> thesystem: do you have the update manager running?
[01:40] <Judg3_Dr34D> lol my german aren't good these days :D
[01:40] <Jordan_U> sk No, I mean that Ubuntu tries not to upgrade to completely new versions of a package between upgrades, so they would have patched, so just because you have the old version of the program doesn't mean you have the vulnerability
[01:40] <Xblund> Hi, using syslog-ng file statement under destination, what is the way to use 'the hostname' instead of its numeric IP, using $HOST?
[01:40] <the_consul> When I try to play any type of video (avi, mpg, dvd) in totem-xine the audio works but I get a dark blue screen....Most stuff works in mplayer and vlc, but I prefer the totem interface...anyone have any ideas?
[01:40] <thesystem> :D
[01:41] <daan> the_consul: i guess you don't have all xine libs installed
[01:41] <thesystem> thx a lot for helping me, i will get help in ubuntu-de, thx :)
[01:41] <variant> thesystem: are you using beryl?
[01:41] <Jordan_U> the_consul, Or go back to totem-gstreamer :)
[01:41] <variant> thesystem: or desktop effects
[01:41] <variant> the_consul: are you using beryl, or desktop effects?
[01:41] <Judg3_Dr34D> desktop effects = Compiz ???
[01:42] <variant> Judg3_Dr34D: yes
[01:42] <the_consul> variant: desktop effects, but this problem works even if its disabled
[01:42] <sk> Jordan_U, I know it is already the first release.
[01:42] <Judg3_Dr34D> variant: thanks :)
[01:42] <thesystem> no only desktop effects
[01:42] <Jordan_U>  sk I am not sure what you mean
[01:43] <the_consul> daan: I run it from teh command line and I don't see any errors about missing libararies...is there a good way to check if I'm missing some?
[01:43] <variant> thesystem: sorry, ment to ask the_consul
[01:43] <Judg3_Dr34D> variant: in order to install compiz fusion should I first uninstall compiz?
[01:43] <Jordan_U> sk Are you sure that the package you have actually does have this vulnerability?
[01:43] <thesystem> no problem
[01:43] <daan> the_consul: wait a sec
[01:43] <the_consul> Jordan-U: xine works on my laptop and seems to give a better picture quality than gstreamer, but yeah thats an option
[01:43] <variant> Judg3_Dr34D: don't bother with compiz fusion just yet, and compiz fusion is part of compiz (or will be) it is still in a state of flux.
[01:44] <sk> Jordan_U, the actual Version is 4.16-0ubuntu3.2. I think that "-0" is the patch. So the package wasn't updated in dapper
[01:44] <variant> Jordan_U: run gstreamer-properties and change the video output plugin
[01:44] <Jordan_U> the_consul, There is no reason that you would get better picture quality from using a different back end
[01:44] <ilreds> hi to all
[01:44] <Judg3_Dr34D> variant: I know it's just that I can't wait :D
[01:44] <variant> Jordan_U: change it to "X window system (no xv)"
[01:44] <Jordan_U> variant, I think you mean the_consul
[01:44] <variant> Jordan_U: eheh
[01:45] <Pricey> sk, -0 means there is no debian version
[01:45] <variant> Jordan_U: probably :)
[01:45] <daan> the_consul: Try this sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras libxine-extracodecs w32codecs
[01:45] <variant> the_consul: before doing what daan suggests just change the output plugin as i told you
[01:45] <Smotang> hey what is the python channel?
[01:45] <the_consul> variant: I've run that and changed vid to x noxv and the test gives me the bright colors, but xine still doesn't work
[01:45] <Jordan_U> variant, That won't work for totem-xine ( what he is using )
[01:45] <Smotang> I tried python but it did not work
[01:46] <SlimeyPete>  ##python ?
[01:46] <crdlb> Smotang, #python but it's +r
[01:46] <SlimeyPete> or #python
[01:46] <crdlb> so you need to register
[01:46] <variant> the_consul: ok, sorry i thought you were using gstreamer (you should be)
[01:46] <variant> Jordan_U: ok
[01:46] <ilreds> i've got a problem about my processor, an amd athlon64 3200+: the cpu freq applet in gnome show me a full freq in an on-demand way, but i know my procesor can operate at half freq
[01:46] <daan> variant: he shouldn't xine works just fine
[01:46] <ilreds> where can i see to ferify if the applet works wrong?
[01:47] <variant> daan: whatever works for sure, but gstreamer is the one to use where possible and increasingly so
[01:47] <Smotang> Ah got in thanks
[01:47] <ilreds> using centos i see the correct freq
[01:47] <the_consul> daan: that's already the newest version
[01:47] <SlimeyPete> ilreds: cat /proc/cpu
[01:48] <SlimeyPete> ilreds: ory... /proc/cpuinfo
[01:48] <daan> the_consul: then I don't know, why do you want to use xine over gstreamer?
[01:48] <the_consul> Jordan_U: is there a way to change the vid properties (as suggested by variant) for the xine engine.? I believe I had to make similar changes for vlc and mplayer to get those to show video as well...I tackled this quite a while back initially and am revisiting the problem now
[01:49] <Smotang> what is the file you add data to that is mouse?
[01:49] <ilreds> SlimeyPete: cpu MHz         : 2000.000
[01:49] <user1_> how do i add website to the very top of google search?
[01:50] <Jordan_U> the_consul, I am sure there is, but AFIK gstreamer is simply a better architecture and I think that your perception of better video quality is probably a placebo
[01:50] <berent> daan: not much improvement
[01:50] <the_consul> daan: I installed gstreamer initially and it didn't play certain things, vlc doesn't play audio for me on some things, and mplayer won't resize -- on my laptop totem-xine works perfectly for most everything...I may switch to gstreamer if it can't be resolved any other way
[01:50] <ilreds> SlimeyPete: with other distribution i have 1000.000 in idle
[01:50] <ilreds> SlimeyPete: now always 2000.000
[01:51] <lgp_> hi
[01:51] <SlimeyPete> ilreds: sounds like cool-n-quiet isn't working, then. I've never made it work on my AMD either.
[01:51] <Jordan_U> ilreds, Have you tried powernowd instead of ondemand ?
[01:51] <Jordan_U> SlimeyPete, Same question to you.
[01:51] <daan> the_consul: are you sure you installed all gstreamer plugins (you say it didn't play certain things before)
[01:51] <SlimeyPete> I don't think I've tried it, no
[01:51] <the_consul> Jordan_U: I'll give gstreamer a shot...Like I said its been awhile since I played around with it so I don't remember my exact reasoning for disliking it, but I'll give it a shot again
[01:52] <berent> daan : anyways tell me is there if there is any command to check what's maximum memory system can take.
[01:52] <lgp_> have anyone installed the Palace-client linpal?
[01:52] <variant> the_consul: totem-gstreamer and all the gstreamer codecs will play just about anything, and if you select the correct ouptput mode with gstreamer-properties (X Window System (no Xv)) like I suggest then it will work perfectly with compiz/beryl/desktop effects
[01:52] <ilreds> SlimeyPete: ???? i use powernowd, with centos i use powernowd...i think is a config problem
[01:52] <the_consul> daan: yeah, I installed them with automatix initially
[01:52] <daan> the_consul: automatix is evil
[01:53] <the_consul> variant: k, I'll give it shot, thanks for the help all
[01:53] <the_consul> daan: maybe, but its easy
[01:53] <variant> berent: you need to look up your motherboard specifications, it will tell you (on google)
[01:53] <daan> the_consul: this is much better http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs
[01:53] <variant> the_consul: seriously avoid automatix, it's not easy, it's _stupid_
[01:53] <daan> variant: agreed
[01:53] <Jordan_U> !automatix | the_consul
[01:53] <ubotu> the_consul: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:53] <revilodraw> automatix is what god would use if here existed
[01:54] <misha> hi
[01:54] <revilodraw> hi misha
[01:54] <misha> i'm new in freenet
[01:54] <Jordan_U> revilodraw, And he were a masochist
[01:54] <misha> i want to connect
[01:54] <revilodraw> jordan_u... hehe another disbeliever
[01:54] <misha> how can i do it?
[01:55] <berent> variant : why google why not do something with lshw and so
[01:55] <Jordan_U> !automatix > revilodraw
[01:55] <the_consul> For what its worth, I used it when I first moved to linux/ubuntu and haven't used it since then as I've become more comfortable with the command line and generally doing things in a linux environment...
[01:56] <revilodraw> no jordan_u... revilodraw > automatix
[01:56] <variant> berent: as far as i am aware there is no way to reliably see what capacity of ram the mother board supports
[01:56] <daan> berent: what did you mean with your last question
[01:57] <daan> berent: ah i see just google your motherboard
[01:57] <berent> daan : why not a command .
[01:57] <revilodraw> how do i know if my graphics card is working as well as it should?
[01:57] <daan> berent: maybe because there isn't any?
[01:58] <kslat3r> revilodraw try glxinfo | grep direct
[01:58] <variant> revilodraw: if you can play games and get the fps and graphical qualityt hat you would expect then it's working as well as it can
[01:58] <Jordan_U> revilodraw, I can't tell if you are joking so just check the message from ubotu
[01:59] <revilodraw> jordan_u: i wasnt joking about automatix, but if u hate it then thats k with me... kslat and variant: thanks
[01:59] <kslat3r> anyone know of a better IRC client that bitchx and xchat?
[01:59] <revilodraw> kslat3r: direct rendering; no....is this bad?
[02:00] <daan> revilodraw: Automatix dumbs things down that shouldn't
[02:00] <kslat3r> that wud suggest u dont have graphics drivers for your card installed
[02:00] <scoldog_> Anyone up to speed about Amarok/Exaile that I can bounce a few questions off?
[02:00] <kslat3r> what card do u have?
[02:00] <gnomefreak> revilodraw: what graphics card do you have?
[02:00] <revilodraw> ok i have an ati x1400 radeon card so ill have fun trying to get them to worlk
[02:01] <revilodraw> i was on here about an hour ago and ppl r being a lot more helpful now than they were before
[02:01] <the_consul> I installed gstreamer...for this particular wmv file (it's the only format I could find it in, I'm all ears if there's a way to convert it w/o loss of quality) I get video but no sound ....sound worked in xine and in mplayer as well....any suggestions on where to look?
[02:01] <LucianIndy> is ati difficult to obtain functionality on ubuntu?
[02:01] <revilodraw> lucianindy; apparently
[02:01] <stefg> revilodraw: this lies in the nature of irc
[02:01] <LucianIndy> glad i didn't install ubuntu on my g/f's pc
[02:02] <kslat3r> LucianIndy: no not really its just a matter of following a tutorial
[02:02] <gnomefreak> revilodraw: not all ati drivers have direct rendering. did you try to install hte right drivers with restricted-manager?
[02:02] <berent> daan : does lshw provide me my motherboard make
[02:02] <daan> berent: yes
[02:02] <berent> daan : its 82801AA
[02:02] <berent> daan : what's max memory i can use
[02:03] <revilodraw> gnomefreak: i havent yet, this is the first time i have gotten into feisty due to an annoying xorg problem... is the restricted manager easy?
[02:03] <kslat3r> revilodraw: yes
[02:03] <daan> berent: no that's a io controller hub
[02:03] <gnomefreak> revilodraw: yes but give me a minute first.
[02:03] <daan> berent: try sudo lshw | less
[02:03] <returncode> How can I launch gconf from terminal
[02:04] <returncode> I tried GCOnf but not work
[02:04] <moyer> anyone know how can i view what proccess my system is booting at startup?
[02:04] <CPF_> sudo gconf-tool
[02:04] <revilodraw> kslat3r: the restricted drivers manager is saying that my "ati accelerated graphics driver" is "in use"?
[02:04] <CPF_> sudo gconftool
[02:04] <CPF_> **
[02:04] <moyer> sudo gconf-editor
[02:04] <returncode> thx CPF
[02:04] <revilodraw> gnomefreak: k cool just let me know when u r ready
[02:04] <returncode> and moyer
[02:04] <returncode> I try
[02:04] <shadowhywind> i have a odd problem here, Windows can ping the host name of my one of my ubuntu boxs (name:A) but my other ubuntu box (name:b) can't ping it by its host name, it comes up with unkown host
[02:04] <kslat3r> revilodraw: 1 sec
[02:04] <gnomefreak> revilodraw: you need the fglrx driver
[02:05] <stefg> moyer: just look at dmesg. you can also boot without the 'quiet splash' parameters to have a verbose boot process
[02:05] <kslat3r> revilodraw: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=482773&highlight=howto+ati+x1400
[02:06] <returncode> shadowhywind* probably win machine have firewall?
[02:06] <kslat3r> revilodraw: igonre compiz-fusion stuff if u want
[02:06] <loes> ik heb problemen met  skype installeren kan iemand mij helpen
[02:06] <daan> !ubuntu-nl
[02:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-nl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:06] <stefg> !nl | loes
[02:06] <ubotu> loes: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[02:06] <berent> daan : where is that in lshw?
[02:06] <gnomefreak> kslat3r: that would be a great guide if they had what he was looking for ;)
[02:07] <loes> oke ga meteen kijken
[02:07] <daan> berent: somewhere
[02:07] <kslat3r> its an fglrx driver guide aint it?
[02:07] <shadowhywind> returncode windows does have a firewall on, but why can it see ubuntu but one unbutu can't see the other ubuntu
[02:07] <gnomefreak> kslat3r: compiz guide
[02:07] <berent> daan: not there katmai is the make of cpu
[02:07] <kslat3r> my bad
[02:07] <moyer> stefg : thanks i appreciate it. how do i use that quiet splash option?
[02:08] <gnomefreak> !ati | revilodraw  (please install the fglrx drivers
[02:08] <ubotu> revilodraw  (please install the fglrx drivers: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:08] <returncode> shadowhywind* because windows drop icmp packet (ping)
[02:08] <daan> berent: did you run it with sudo?
[02:08] <returncode> disable firewall
[02:08] <berent> daan :  i810-W83627HF . sudo gives more things.
[02:08] <returncode> or enable ICMP
[02:08] <returncode> on windows
[02:08] <returncode> and try
[02:08] <revilodraw> gnomefreak: ok.. thank you very much
[02:09] <stefg> moyer: catch the grub menu at boot, press 'e' on the standard entry. This enables you to edit the boot command line. Just delete the words quiet splash from that line, then press 'b' to boot with that
[02:09] <gnomefreak> revilodraw: yw
[02:09] <moyer> stefg, thanks for your help i appreciate it
[02:09] <nomad> hey
[02:09] <nomad> can anyone help me with gimp?
[02:10] <moyer> im gonna try it now
[02:10] <daan> berent: seems like a rare motherboard can't find too many info on it, do you have the manual that come with it
[02:10] <berent> daan : no
[02:11] <daan> berent: can't help you then I guess
[02:11] <nomad> i want to know how to zoom in an image that the ruler shows intimately how much pixel the image has
[02:11] <JimQode> nomad, i don't quite get your question.
[02:11] <daan> berent: maybe you can borrow some ram from someone and try it
[02:12] <kslat3r> does anyone know of a better IRC client than bitchx and xchat??
[02:12] <berent> daan : is it not itching to know we can't find it
[02:12] <berent> daan : is it not itching to know we can't find it using a command
[02:12] <pppoe_dude> maybe i can sleep on the beach today
[02:12] <_6StringKng_> use konversation
[02:12] <nomad> Jimbob, http://docs.gimp.org/images/using/imagewindow-description.png number 4 ... i need to know how i can zoom into an image that number 4, the ruler, shows exactly how much pixel the image has
[02:12] <daan> kslat3r: konversation
[02:12] <pppoe_dude> oops wrong chan
[02:12] <_6StringKng_> using it now, rocks
[02:12] <hype_> hi there
[02:12] <kslat3r> k cheers
[02:13] <nomad> Jimbob, sorry bad english, i know *g
[02:13] <daan> berent: guess so but i can't help it :)
[02:13] <hype_> anyone usiong mocp music player?
[02:13] <_6StringKng_> nope, amarok
[02:13] <returncode> how can I view mycomputer on the desktop
[02:13] <returncode> there is some option in gconf
[02:13] <scoldog_> Anyone know a music player that can be controlled by PDA and synch with an iPod?
[02:13] <JimQode> nomad, you want to learn the image's width in pixels?
[02:14] <Judg3_Dr34D> scoldog_:i think rhythmbox ?
[02:14] <JimQode> nomad, or do you want to see the individual pixels on the image?
[02:14] <UseLess_> sTarLight
[02:14] <JimQode> !automatix > JimQode
[02:14] <daan> returncode: you can make a launcher to: nautilus computer:///
[02:14] <kajtek> Is there any tool to fast convert Codepages in large amount of files by one command? For example from ISO-8859-1 to UTF-8? And is it in official repos?
[02:15] <stefg> !icons | returncode
[02:15] <ubotu> returncode: Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[02:15] <returncode> daan* I want the icon myComputer on the desktop
[02:15] <scoldog_> Judg3_Dr34D, I would love to get Exaile working via a PDA, but I don't know if it is possible.  I know Amarok can be scripted, and that Exaile uses the Amarok engine.  I'll have a gander at Rythmbox right now
[02:15] <stefg> returncode: see above
[02:16] <nomad> JimQode, i want to learn how i can effect that the ruler shows me the right number of pixels. if the image is 400x658 i want that the rulers show me a allocation from 400 and 658
[02:16] <kslat3r> thanks guys konversation is basically mIRC ;)
[02:16] <kajtek> Is there any tool to fast convert Codepages in large amount of files by one command? For example from ISO-8859-1 to UTF-8? And is it in official repos?
[02:17] <stefg> kajtek: sed ? :-)
[02:17] <nomad> Jimbob, i work with "background-position" in a css file and it requiers accurate pixel numbers
[02:17] <Ajit> how can i install software without internet connection in ubuntu,I am new to linux just installed ubuntu 7.04, suppose I have .deb file at my desktop then what is procedure to install.
[02:17] <JimQode> nomad, you can't it will always snap to multiples of 50. click and drag the ruler to make a guide though. you can see the guides coordinates on the left bottom corner.
[02:18] <kajtek> stefg, can you give me a little howto do this? please? ;)
[02:18] <JimQode> Ajit, double click it
[02:18] <nomad> JimQode, i even saw i wrote another name *g okay, thanks for your help
[02:19] <JimQode> nomad, no problem. have fun ;)
[02:19] <roachmmflhyr_> anyone recommend a good UBUNTU book??
[02:19] <stefg> kajtek: this is a classical job for a bash script, invoking sed with clever parameters. http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/unix/sed.html
[02:19] <Ajit> JimQode: It means this is just like I installed .exe file in windows? i.e. next...accept...next..installed.
[02:19] <JimQode> Ajit, One less step actually you just press OK :)
[02:20] <daan> roachmmflhyr_: no, but you can learn most of the things on the internet
[02:20] <B-777> I am trying to add some things to a panel but I get the following error message: The applet encountered a problem while loading: do you want to delete it from the configuration? Tried rebooting the desktop and the PC itself but no success, still comes up with the same error message. Should I try to reinstall gnome?
[02:20] <stefg> kajtek: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ maybe a prerequisite to understand
[02:20] <roachmmflhyr_> daan: yeah thats what I usually do....just would like to dig deeper
[02:20] <Ajit> JimQode: you mean less step is Accept (due to open source)
[02:21] <kajtek> stefg, okay. thanks! that should be enough :] 
[02:21] <daan> roachmmflhyr_: I don't think a book will help you dig deeper
[02:21] <JimQode> Ajit, yep, just a dialog with an ok/cancel button that is all. no wizard pages.
[02:21] <Jack_Sparrow> If I copy my home to another Ububntu installation will it work and what all will I he copying, just my theme and settings or everything I have done since the livecd installed the os?
[02:21] <daan> roachmmflhyr_: but I guess you could just look around at amazon
[02:21] <peacho> Hey, does anyone know of a site that that has good fonts for Linux that look like Windows ones?
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> mscorefonts comes to mind
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> in the repos
[02:22] <nomad> JimQode, hm just a last question... if i want to create guides, how i can do it? if i drag it, i can't see the coordinates because the mouse is no more in the image
[02:22] <roachmmflhyr_> daan: yeah they have a few i was just wondering if there was anything special about any
[02:22] <daan> peacho: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks
[02:22] <peacho> Okay.
[02:22] <daan> roachmmflhyr_: haven't read any so can't say :)
[02:23] <banlieue> roachmmflhyr_: looking for a good book on ubuntu?
[02:23] <_6StringKng_> yeah its called google
[02:23] <roachmmflhyr_> banlieue: yeah
[02:23] <banlieue> _6StringKng_: it's*
[02:23] <banlieue> roachmmflhyr_: don't bother.. i've read a few of them, they're all fairly basic and will leave you far from satisfied
[02:23] <roachmmflhyr_> banlieue: i pretty much know all the basics i just wanted to get more advanced
[02:23] <_6StringKng_> gee, it's, big mistake
[02:23] <honke> Hi everyone good morning
[02:24] <kslat3r> hello :)
[02:24] <daan> roachmmflhyr_: more advanced is using google not a book
[02:24] <honke> I have a question and I want to know if this is possible.
[02:24] <banlieue> roachmmflhyr_: you're better off reading websites and/or spending time in this channel (and of course messing about with everything you can to see what happens)
[02:24] <roachmmflhyr_> banlieue: hmm thats sad
[02:24] <roachmmflhyr_> banlieue: haha yeah thats what ive been doing for about a year with linux distros
[02:24] <daan> roachmmflhyr_: what do you want to know more about?
[02:24] <roachmmflhyr_> banlieue: i really like this one
[02:24] <banlieue> if you do come by a good book on ubuntu let me know, but i've yet to see one for ubuntu that's good
[02:25] <honke> I have an IBM M-pro with dual 1.7 xeons, 4 double gigabit ethernet cards and an 800GB disk array on SCSI.  I just put feisty server with LAMP and DNS on it
[02:25] <banlieue> which probably makes sense as well
[02:25] <roachmmflhyr_> banlieue: certainly
[02:25] <banlieue> you might want to look for books on linux, rather than ubuntu specifically
[02:25] <NiA> nmn
[02:25] <daan> banlieue: agreed
[02:25] <roachmmflhyr_> banlieue: right
[02:25] <Matthai> hi people, something to read: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto8 (just finished it few minutes ago)
[02:25] <roachmmflhyr_> banlieue: i have a couple already
[02:25] <honke> I want this machine to do all this: DNS, firewall, fileserver, Counterstrike server, SMB... is it possible?
[02:25] <daan> roachmmflhyr_: maybe try install gentoo some day :)
[02:25] <banlieue> heh
[02:26] <roachmmflhyr_> banlieue: i played with the live cd some
[02:26] <banlieue> the first big test on gentoo is seeing if you're even able to install it properly
[02:26] <banlieue> lovely OS, though
[02:26] <kslat3r> honke: dont think u can run counter-strike server in ubuntu ?
[02:26] <honke> balieue: I just followed the instructions word for word and it worked lol
[02:26] <roachmmflhyr_> banlieue: but i kinda just got back into linux now that im settling down over hear in japan
[02:26] <honke> thank you kslater
[02:26] <banlieue> honke: really? lol.. i must've been unlucky then, or I can't read
[02:26] <JimQode> honke, banlieue, counter server is available for linux
[02:27] <banlieue> JimQode: i didn't say anything :o
[02:27] <caseofthemondays> When i uplugged my usb drive it left the icon on my desktop, now when i plug it back in I get a second icon for the same drive.  how can i force the old icon to go away?
[02:27] <Ajit> JimQode: and what about compressed package like zip, rar package installation (i will have to double click on it or first i will have to uncompress this and then install)
[02:27] <stefg> honke: firewall must be a different machine. depending on how much power is left by the CS server you might consider a virtual machine (vmware/xen) to be the firewall
[02:27] <banlieue> caseofthemondays: did you right click the icon and click Eject?
[02:27] <caseofthemondays> banlieue:  yep
[02:27] <roachmmflhyr_> daan: i forget which gentoo i have.....haha i have so many distro cds piling up.....
[02:27] <caseofthemondays> makes the new one disapear but the old one stays there
[02:28] <honke> I should ask a more direct question.... Where can I go to learn about implementing a firewall in this box? Is the firewall something I should learn before I try to learn about turning the box into a router?
[02:28] <honke> It has 5 ethernet ports
[02:28] <banlieue> brb
[02:28] <honke> I want it to be the hub to my home network, and also server files.
[02:28] <JimQode> Ajit, Linux software does not usually come in zip or rar packages
[02:28] <honke> (64 bit 1Gbit dual cards, so good and fast!)
[02:29] <gerro> wow icewm is weird, anyone use it on daily basis? Need to know the basics about how to customize it
[02:29] <caseofthemondays> honke:  thats about 1000x more work than just going and paying 40$ for a router and 20$ for a giga hub
[02:29] <caseofthemondays> switch i should say
[02:29] <Judg3_Dr34D> honke: maybe this will help about CS server http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76483
[02:29] <honke> caseofthemondays: I want to do it through linux because I will get higher throughput and I will learn a great deal about networking
[02:30] <honke> besides I have fiber equipment I can try too
[02:30] <gerro> honke: and its free and runs on any networking device :)
[02:30] <caseofthemondays> honke:  you arent going to get higher throughput ... but it will be a fun experience
[02:30] <stefg> honke: definitely. So i'd run xen, and some specialized firewall distro (or even OpenBSD)in it as the firewall to the outside world. won't require too much resources.
[02:30] <Ajit> JimQode: it comes in .deb package always?
[02:30] <gerro> caseofthemondays: don't know about that higher throughput stuff but usually do get performance boost
[02:30] <honke> but but but all the computers in this room have PCI-X or 64bit PCI gig cards, it should be damn fast
[02:30] <EHLOHIM> Hello
[02:30] <EHLOHIM> how can i do a screen shot with ubuntu?
[02:31] <Judg3_Dr34D> Print Screen
[02:31] <banlieue> EHLOHIM: press the prntscrn button
[02:31] <EHLOHIM> heuu ok
[02:31] <honke> thank you very much for the step in the right direction
[02:31] <EHLOHIM> la banlieue c dangereux
[02:31] <EHLOHIM> thank you
[02:31] <JimQode> Ajit, there are also so called source packages that usually have .tar.gz or .tar.bz2 extention. But average user never needs to use them.
[02:31] <caseofthemondays> this d#$m second automount icon is makin me crazy
[02:31] <gerro> ehlohim: also alt prntscrn to do just one window, and if your ever on a distro that doesn't have print screen options use imagemagick with a script linked to the print key
[02:31] <EHLOHIM> oh ok
[02:31] <EHLOHIM> thank you i will just use printscreen thank you
[02:31] <Myrtti> gerro: scrot ;-)
[02:32] <banlieue> caseofthemondays: the easiest fix would be just rebooting :P
[02:32] <revilodraw> how do i check if ipv6 in disbled?
[02:32] <banlieue> you should also be able to just sudo rmdir it in a terminal
[02:32] <gerro> Myrtti: yo sup?
[02:32] <caseofthemondays> banlieue:  dont you wish .. but that does nothing as well .. icon is still there when i reboot
[02:32] <banlieue> :o
[02:32] <banlieue> did you try sudo rmdir'ing it?
[02:32] <caseofthemondays> yep
[02:32] <banlieue> and, nothing? :/
[02:32] <rolfen> how do i make ubuntu automatically mount new partitions drives so that i dont have to right click on their icon and click mount
[02:32] <caseofthemondays> haha .. the infernal thing is satanspawn or something .. it wont die
[02:33] <banlieue> lol
[02:33] <JimQode> rolfen, you have to write it in /etc/fstab
[02:33] <gerro> caseofthemondays: if it is a device it won't go away unless you edit it to not be shown
[02:33] <honke> For a third question... Should I try to make my box be the router before learning about firewalls?
[02:33] <Myrtti> gerro: scrot is also nice for taking screenshots
[02:33] <kslat3r> honke: look for information on iptables
[02:33] <caseofthemondays> gerro:  its a usb automount device ... but the last unplug depricated its icon on the screen and it wont go away .. repluging just adds a new icon
[02:33] <gerro> Myrtti: does it do the same task with less processing?
[02:33] <honke> ah, thats what the guys at OSDL told me too
[02:34] <JimQode> honke, you can play with packet filtering on your box only. it does not need to a router. But then only your computer will be firewalled.
[02:34] <rolfen> JimQode: what do I write in /etc/fstab ?
[02:34] <revilodraw> how do i check if ipv6 in disbled?
[02:34] <gerro> caseofthemondays: go in as root and force umount upon the device location and directory it was mounted
[02:34] <Myrtti> gerro: prolly yes
[02:34] <Myrtti> gerro: haven't looked into it though
[02:34] <honke> Allright then I will read up on IPtables and packet filtering...
[02:34] <rolfen> JimQode:  can I make ubuntu write them automatically?
[02:34] <JimQode> rolfen, pastebin your /etc/fstab file and tell be the partition name, filesystem and mount point you want.
[02:34] <Ajit> JimQode: I am trying to learn for binary installation I mean which file would I get usually when i will try to download software for ubuntu,  (i am not interested in source packages since I think i will have to compile this for installation which i don't know).
[02:34] <caseofthemondays> gerro:  yeah already tryed that as well ... the device isnt mounted but the icon still persists
[02:35] <honke> You guys would kill me if you knew how little I paid for all these servers
[02:35] <banlieue> caseofthemondays: what happens if you try to mount the usb to the destination of the desktop icon?
[02:35] <gerro> caseofthemondays: umm well then random kill things until everything dies then reboot computer?
[02:35] <honke> dual hyperthreading xeons with 2GB for $50 each
[02:35] <LucianIndy> caseofthemondays, did you reboot
[02:35] <caseofthemondays> banlieue:  it creates a new icon for the same drive
[02:35] <kslat3r> revilodraw: sudo nano /etc/sysctl.conf
[02:35] <JimQode> Ajit, you get .deb packages. But using apt is the usual way. you can use packages cds as a source if you don't have internet
[02:35] <banlieue> caseofthemondays: so you'd have two icons pointing to the same directory?
[02:35] <caseofthemondays> rebooting does nothing ... its there when i reboot even when the drive isnt connected
[02:35] <gerro> caseofthemondays: I know that a crappy answer xD
[02:36] <caseofthemondays> haha
[02:36] <caseofthemondays> its satanspawn
[02:36] <banlieue> it seems to be :/
[02:36] <revilodraw> kslat3r: u would have to be the mopst helpful person i have met today...if not all week
[02:36] <stefg> !software
[02:36] <ubotu> A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[02:36] <gerro> caseofthemondays: if you do killall * as root then you will need to reboot :)
[02:36] <Judg3_Dr34D> honke: that's a killer deal
[02:36] <kslat3r> revilodraw: np :)
[02:36] <banlieue> did you consider putting a sticker over it on your monitor, caseofthemondays?
[02:36] <caseofthemondays> gerro:  i have done everything but dance naked in a fire ... it just wont die
[02:36] <gerro> caseofthemondays: maybe just send a term signal to whichever application handles the icon stuff
[02:37] <gerro> caseofthemondays: are you sure its the device link and not some random icon your friend made?
[02:37] <caseofthemondays> banlieue:  thats funny cause thats just what i was typing ... i have some schotch tape that would take care of it
[02:37] <wimpies> does anybody know how I can tell xine NOT to reset the volume at start ? It always resets it to 50%
[02:37] <banlieue> actually, caseofthemondays
[02:37] <banlieue> disable icons on your desktop altogether
[02:37] <gerro> caseofthemondays: I'm so going to put that on my brothers laptop will bug him to death haha
[02:37] <banlieue> then enable them again, see what happens
[02:37] <caseofthemondays> gerro: im sure .. no one but me has access to this machine
[02:37] <aantn> caseofthemondays: are you using ubuntu se?
[02:37] <caseofthemondays> gerro .. lol
[02:37] <jube> Anyone know a good way to record video from a webcam?
[02:37] <caseofthemondays> aantn:  7.04
[02:37] <banlieue> you can disable the icons altogether in gconf-editor
[02:38] <gerro> jube: webcam program is nice
[02:38] <caseofthemondays> banlieue:  i wonder if i did that and then turned them back on if it would die ... let me see
[02:38] <banlieue> apps > nautilus > desktop
[02:38] <caseofthemondays> yep
[02:38] <Ajit> I have only one cd from ubuntu. which does not have many softwares example like few audio and video codecs(i can't use apt-get since i don't have internet in my ubuntu partition.), Is their any way to download packages only?
[02:38] <banlieue> if that doesn't work, I might just be out of ideas
[02:38] <gerro> caseofthemondays: I remember editing udev and then restarting it for some guide I was following but don't know if that would work
[02:39] <jube> gerro, thanks, I'll check it out. I actually saw that in the apt list but I thought it was only for images from its description
[02:39] <honke> whoever told me about xen... Im reading about it. Are you telling me I shouldn't have a single OS handle all these tasks, but instead run multiple OS's on one machine via virtual machine?
[02:39] <caseofthemondays> gerro:  i could try ... i have done everything else i can think of ... 10 years of unix and i cant figure out a simple x problem .. its pissin me off
[02:39] <banlieue> lol
[02:39] <aantn> caseofthemondays: huh?
[02:39] <banlieue> that's why linux is so much fun
[02:39] <caseofthemondays> aantn:  huh back ?
[02:39] <Dusk_> !WorksForMe
[02:40] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[02:40] <honke> ok I will take that as a yes
[02:40] <gerro> caseofthemondays: finely tuned gamer nerd fatality skillz yo, just hammer delete and all things good :P
[02:40] <user1_> honke, what are you talking about
[02:40] <JimQode> Ajit, you can download the packages from another ubuntu machine. there is an option for it on synaptic
[02:40] <revilodraw> ubotu: very sound advice... thanks...but its no fun if you dont play
[02:40] <stefg> honke: i'm telling you that you can run all of your services on that machine, except the firewall. This needs to be a separate machine. But you don't need a physical machine for the firewall, you have enough horsepower to have s small virtual machine running the firewall
[02:40] <caseofthemondays> i actually wonder if this is all part of my screwy gnome issue that is supposed to be fixed in the next release ... i boot up with the gnome panel in the center of my screen as well
[02:41] <jube> gerro, webcam only seems to handle uploading images to an ftp server
[02:41] <banlieue> did you google for this problem yet, caseofthemondays?
[02:41] <caseofthemondays> ohh yeah
[02:41] <banlieue> wouldnt surprise me if a bug report was to show up
[02:41] <caseofthemondays> first place i went
[02:41] <Dusk_> hi there...i couldn't find where to change my icons size...where's it??
[02:41] <caseofthemondays> after trying 20 things of my own
[02:41] <gerro> jube: you can disable that feature and do localhost instead read the manpage for webcam its very informative
[02:41] <jube> I'm hoping to record mpeg or avi files including sound from my webcam for later upload to youtube
[02:41] <kslat3r> Dusk_: right click menu
[02:41] <banlieue> Dusk_: on your desktop or in nautilus?
[02:41] <honke> thank you stefg! xen would be used for firewall usage.
[02:41] <gerro> jube: there also this program called motion
[02:41] <Dusk_> Desktop
[02:41] <banlieue> Dusk_: right click > stretch icon
[02:41] <Dusk_> all the Icon set
[02:42] <banlieue> and all the icons would be in your nautilus preferences
[02:42] <banlieue> edit > preferences > view > default zoom level
[02:42] <gerro> how would I go about setting up desktop icons on a icewm setup?
[02:42] <stefg> honke: exactly. a specialized router/fw-distro running in xen does the outside communication, the CS and samba server runs on the host (usinf ubuntu)
[02:42] <askand> When I connect to another computer with vncwiever I get connected and see the screen but changes on the other computer doesnt show..e.g I miniize a window no the coomputer I control and it still appears maximized in my computer..why?
[02:43] <Dusk_> banlieue, i stretched and only one icon is oversized..the others are normal
[02:43] <banlieue> Dusk_: try the second method
[02:43] <kslat3r> askand: sounds like the vnc server is not accepting events from the client
[02:43] <gerro> askand: because default settings are to only update the area of screen you are interacting with over vnc I think
[02:43] <caseofthemondays> restarting x ... brb
[02:43] <Judg3_Dr34D> !X
[02:43] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:43] <askand> gerro: how do I change that?
[02:44] <honke> I'm now reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iptables :) yay
[02:44] <askand> kslat3r how do I make it accept that?
[02:44] <LucianIndy> Does anyone know how to set Compiz to allow Button1 and Button2 on the mouse to enable rotating cube? It was set by default in Beryl but I can't figure it out on this
[02:44] <Ajit> JimQode: thanks a lot for info., I am trying to connect my ubuntu with internet using bluetooth (bluez) )and my mobile's GPRS.
[02:44] <kslat3r> askand what OS is the server on?
[02:45] <tola> when I've mounted an ssh filesystem using Places > Connect to Server, can I access that filesystem at the terminal? i.e. does it have an actual file path?
[02:45] <JimQode> Ajit, np, Have fun ;)
[02:45] <askand> kslat3r ubuntu
[02:45] <kslat3r> what prog u using?
[02:45] <Dusk_> !dock
[02:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:46] <pike__> tola: im assuming it uses sshfs if so just type 'mount' to see path
[02:46] <stefg> honke: http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-users/2005-07/msg00558.html
[02:46] <Dusk_> which dock do you prefer???
[02:46] <caseofthemondays> hey hey .. look at that .. no icon now.  clearing the desktop and restarting x fixed it.  thanks
[02:47] <banlieue> well then, congrats:)
[02:47] <tola> pike__:  hmm, it doesn't appear to be there
[02:47] <shirish> guys I am on a friends laptop & he has a usb mouse. I installed it yesterday & it worked but today it isn't. I restarted the system twice but the same result. Anybody has any ideas?
[02:47] <xuxa> I am trying to install Ubuntu on an older HP laptop that has no built-in ethernet.  It has a PCMCIA slot and I've got the well-supported 3Com 3CCFEM556B network card.  But Ubuntu install CD doesn't seem to recognize the card and set it up automatically.  Is there a PCMCIA module that I need to load?  Or perhaps there is a PCMCIA-ready Ubuntu installer?  (I vaguely remember having to use something like this to get Debian installed on the mach
[02:47] <caseofthemondays> if only that would fix my gnome bug ... then i would be really happy
[02:47] <tola> pike__:  it's very annoying because I can't access the files from a lot of applications, including the terminal
[02:47] <banlieue> lol
[02:47] <caseofthemondays> shirish:  is the mouse listed in the fsusb list ?
[02:48] <JimQode> tola, I think it has an internal implementation in nautilus. why don't you try sshfs?
[02:48] <caseofthemondays> sorry .. lsusb
[02:48] <fwest> is it possible to configure windows xp to auth against an openldap server?
[02:48] <rolfen> I dragged my the icon for my USB key from the dektop to the trash... to unmount it... or so i thought... and IT STARTED DELETING MY FILES
[02:48] <shirish> caseofthemonday: lemme check
[02:48] <pike__> tola: the syntax to mount it in cli is something like sudo sshfs 192.168.1.4:/ /mnt/dir/   i think but im not sure offhand
[02:48] <Anlar> tola: the gnome virtual fs is for gnome only
[02:48] <fwest> maybe there is a thirdparty client that can be found?
[02:48] <caseofthemondays> rolfen:  its not macos .. lol
[02:48] <stefg> rolfen: : PEBKAC!
[02:48] <Anlar> tola: but you can mount those in terminal separately as well, in case you love pain
[02:49] <pike__> tola: the 1.4:/ is moutning root you could do 1.4:/home/something  its just the path
[02:49] <tola> JimQode, pike__:  thank you, I'll try sshfs
[02:49] <shirish> caseofthemondays: nope, it just shows 5 buses, device 1ID 0000:0000
[02:49] <fsckr> is there a gui program for formatting in ubuntu?
[02:50] <kslat3r> shirish: try dmesg | grep usb
[02:50] <user1_> is there good free web hosting site?
[02:50] <kslat3r> no lol
[02:50] <fsckr> hee
[02:50] <JimQode> fsckr, gparted does harddisks. for anything else you have to use console.
[02:50] <fsckr> a free hosting site
[02:50] <tola> it's a shame Nautilus doesn't just use sshfs/fuse so that it would "just work". There may be a reason why it doesn't...
[02:50] <aantn> user1_: why would someone do that?
[02:50] <fsckr> what is anything else?
[02:50] <askand> kslat3r: both are ubuntu
[02:51] <fsckr> i have a usb hard drive
[02:51] <JimQode> user1_, free and good don't usually go together outside FOSS
[02:51] <aantn> user1_: and go into #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:51] <shirish> ubotu paste
[02:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:51] <user1_> aantn, i don't care
[02:51] <Anlar> tola: yes, the virtual fs the gnome uses was there years before fuse basically. and you really usually don't need to go outside gnome to do things
[02:51] <kslat3r> askand: what vnc software r u using?
[02:51] <aantn> user1_: what do you need the hosting for?
[02:52] <askand> kslat3r vncviever and the builtin "remote desktop"
[02:52] <honke> Whats faster for running fileserver/firewall/router with a small home network: dual 1.7 Xeons or dual 1.5 Xeon MP HT
[02:52] <user1_> aantn, business use
[02:52] <les_ubuntu> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 7.04 from CD on a new Dell D830 Laptop (4Gb ram, 140gb hd). I see the CD boot screen,  I select install Ubuntu, screen flashes with a couple of " PCI: failed to allocate messages" and I end up in busybox with prompt (initramfs). Any suggestions ?
[02:52] <user1_> aantn, i want to open up a business, and want more people to come to my site
[02:53] <aantn> user1_: you can get good hosting for about $30 a year
[02:53] <magicrobotmonkey> does anyone know how to kill wanda the fish?
[02:53] <magicrobotmonkey> i cant find a process
[02:53] <aantn> user1_: I could design you a site if you'd like  :D
[02:53] <stefg> !boot | les_ubuntu
[02:53] <user1_> aantn, free?
[02:53] <ubotu> les_ubuntu: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[02:53] <kslat3r> askand: on server, System - Preferences - Remote Desktop, make sure "Allow other users to control your desktop" is checked
[02:53] <aantn> user1_: no
[02:53] <fsckr> LOL
[02:53] <MukiEX> Okay, so I'm aware that Ubuntu is in general, more comprehensively designed than Kubuntu is, but I cannot, for the life of me, stand Gnome's "Run Application" (Alt+F2) box. Is there any way to replace it with KDE's?
[02:53] <user1_> aantn, no thanks, i have dreamweaver and alot sample sites
[02:53] <esra_> slm
[02:53] <Ellixis> Hi all
[02:53] <aantn> user1_: well maybe something simple for free if you give me credit
[02:53] <tritonx> can anyone help me by telling what is going on in my syslog ?
[02:54] <aantn> user1_: kk
[02:54] <shirish> caseofthemondays: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29362/
[02:54] <aantn> user1_: I'd recommend godaddy or 1&1 for cheep hosting
[02:54] <askand>  kslat3r that is checked..I can move the mouse and click and stuff..but it doesnt show on my client
[02:54] <fsckr> i use 1&1
[02:54] <fsckr> ;)
[02:54] <fsckr> cheap and good
[02:54] <Ellixis> I have a Feisty server installed, and I've installed the glibc-doc package.... but I still doesn't have : man 3 printf
[02:54] <shirish> caseofthemondays: there is also a printer involved, but that's another story altogether
[02:54] <Pici> MukiEX: Not that I'm aware of.  I'm not fond of that box either, I use the deskbar panel applet to launch apps by name.
[02:54] <Ellixis> How can I solve this ?
[02:54] <pike__> MukiEX: i dont particularly like gnome but there are alternatives to the run box. an applet docked in the panel for instance
[02:54] <fsckr> heck i dont even do anything with it really but use ftp and email
[02:54] <caseofthemondays> shirish:  looking
[02:55] <shirish> caseofthemondays: ok cool :)
[02:55] <kslat3r> askand: r u expecting the client's mouse to be moving when u move the server's mouse?
[02:55] <Ellixis> libc6-doc package doesn't exist anymore in Feisty
[02:55] <MukiEX> pike__ : The concept of the run box is great, but KDE (and not be default, mind you) does a much better job.
[02:55] <JimQode> MukiEX, what do you dislike about it?
[02:55] <tritonx> can anyone look at this and tell if an hacking attemp brought down my server ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29363/
[02:55] <askand> kslat3r:  hrm..I am exepting to see on the client when I open a folder on the server
[02:55] <MukiEX> JimQode : It's an interface thing, and it'll take me a couple of chatting lines to describe.
[02:55] <caseofthemondays> shirish:  can you unplug that mouse / plug it back in and get the lsusb | tail please ?
[02:55] <shirish> caseofthemondays: sure
[02:56] <kslat3r> askand: it seems u have missed the concept of vnc connections
[02:56] <caseofthemondays> shirish:  and the dmesg | tail
[02:56] <MukiEX> In KDE, you can set it to auto-complete based on stuff you've run before. (e.g. executed queries that were valid). As such, the dozen or so apps I use are Super+R and a couple of keystrokes away.
[02:56] <askand> kslat3r: o_o what are they for?
[02:56] <askand> kslat3r: I can control the computer but I have to see the other screen to do it..what us is that :S
[02:57] <Anlar> tritonx: more likely misconfiguration somewhere
[02:57] <MukiEX> Gnome's, in contrast, is horrendously annoying. It "auto-completes", but there's no simple way to access those completions without using the mouse, and even then it's counter-intuitive, to the point where you're just wading through the (swear word)ing menus because it's less hassle than using the run box.
[02:57] <kslat3r> askand: what are you trying to do?
[02:57] <echosystm> i would have thought there would be more decent wysiwyg editors made in linux
[02:57] <MukiEX> And it's "auto-completion" takes the better half of a WEEK to kick in. By the time it suggests anything, you're pretty much done typing the word *anyway*.
[02:57] <MukiEX> *its
[02:57] <honke> My girlfriend liked Ubuntu and wanted to keep using it but I thought she wouldnt want it, and now she has spyware up the butt lol
[02:57] <Anlar> MukiEX: report that on gnome's bugzilla
[02:57] <echosystm> all ive got is kompozer :(
[02:58] <echosystm> anyone know of any good ones, at the level of dreamweaver?
[02:58] <shirish> caseofthemondays: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29364/
[02:58] <tritonx> anlar: even if my uptime have been around a month ?
[02:58] <FirefighterBlu3> i try to keep spyware out of my butt
[02:58] <TexasTaz> Hey guys and gals anyone got the ATI Catalyst Drivers to work in Fiesty Fawn for an ATI x300 PCie card
[02:58] <JimQode> MukiEX, Why don't you file a blueprint on launchpad? maybe someone will implement it if it's a good idea
[02:58] <Anlar> tritonx: yeah
[02:58] <MukiEX> Anlar : But it's not a bug so much as a design flaw (I don't put quotes around flaw because I can't think of ANYONE who benefits from that design) and they're much less likely to address those ^_^
[02:58] <echosystm> anyone at all... ?
[02:58] <echosystm> :P
[02:58] <Anlar> MukiEX: you should report it. you'd be surpised to see something in the bugzilla.
[02:58] <MukiEX> JimQode : If there was a way to call KDE's run box the problem'd be solved ^_^
[02:59] <tritonx> anlar: have any suggestion where to look up for the problem ?
[02:59] <shirish> MukiEX: are you talking about bash-completion or something else altogether
[02:59] <Anlar> tritonx: there's way too little information for that
[02:59] <tritonx> anlar : k
[02:59] <TexasTaz> Anyone ????
[02:59] <MukiEX> shirish : No, it's not tab-completion.
[02:59] <askand> kslat3r: I have two ubuntu laptops, on one of them I have enabled remotedektop. I write vncviewer ipnumber:0 on the other and allows the remote connection on the first computer. I then get the screen from the first laptop in my second laptop and I can move the mouse. The problem is if I open a folder or program or anything in the laptop that has remote dektop enabled and am am connected to I dont see anything on the other 
[02:59] <MukiEX> Which mind you, is a generally cool shell feature =3
[02:59] <shirish> true :)
[02:59] <MukiEX> (which Windows' cmd program has failed miserably in mirroring.)
[03:00] <shirish> again true
[03:00] <shirish> caseofthemondays: any idea?
[03:00] <caseofthemondays> shirish: it really looks like the system isnt detecting the mouse ... and you have some serious problem with that broadcom network card ..
[03:00] <Anlar> MukiEX: in case you give good reasoning against the present implementation why it's counter-intuitive, it will likely be addressed at some point for everyone..
[03:00] <caseofthemondays> shirish:  do you have another usb mouse you can try ?
[03:01] <shirish> caseofthemondays: that I know about, the broadcom network card
[03:01] <kslat3r> askand: can u open programs and folders through the connection on the client computer?
[03:01] <MukiEX> Anlar : Where can I find the bugzilla? :3
[03:01] <shirish> caseofthemondays: not atm no
[03:01] <askand> kslat3r: client=the computer I control?
[03:01] <happytiger>  Help please ---> http://thekewl.pastebin.ca/612474      I have trouble making a cron job run
[03:01] <TexasTaz> ATI Driver help here please it's driving me nuts
[03:01] <Dusk_> !topaz
[03:01] <MukiEX> btw, Compiz-Fusion performance? NICE =3 . I think I can finally permanently switch to a compositor.
[03:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about topaz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:01] <Dusk_> what is topaz brainstrom???
[03:02] <caseofthemondays> shirish: it really looks like a hardware issue, or something wrong in the usb automouting system.  if a reboot doesnt fix it I would lead to a hardware problem.  without getting my hands on it I can't be a lot more help.  sorry
[03:02] <kslat3r> askand: sorry can u open folders using the client laptop on the server?
[03:02] <caseofthemondays> meeting time .. bbl
[03:02] <askand>  kslat3r: I can open folders and programs on the computer I control from the "controlling computer" but they dont show on the "controlling computer"
[03:02] <shirish> caseofthemondays: issue solved, the other usb port seems to have an issue, taking out the printer & using that port for the mouse works
[03:03] <kslat3r> askand: this sounds like a bug
[03:03] <askand>  kslat3r: yeah maybe..
[03:04] <Dusk_> what is topaz brainstrom???
[03:04] <alexIdoia> hi I have installed ubuntu on my toshiba laptop since last xmas. Everything is working as expected but for about 2 months the fan of the cpu is going top speed almost all the time, sensor-applet return a 77degreeC,
[03:05] <alexIdoia> what can I do, is it possible that something went wrong in the cpu management because of a buggy installation of ubuntu
[03:05] <alexIdoia> I don't really know what I should do about it
[03:05] <Anlar> MukiEX: bugs.gnome.org I guess
[03:05] <alexIdoia> but I use a have a quiet laptop
[03:06] <alexIdoia> I used to have*
[03:06] <alexIdoia> anyone ?
[03:06] <gordo> can some1 tell me why ubuntu keeps messing up my usb pendrives and keeps changing permissions on mounting devices?
[03:06] <kslat3r> askand: best advice is to
[03:06] <MukiEX> Cool, now I just need to know exactly what process "Run Application" calls ^_^
[03:06] <kslat3r> *whoops
[03:06] <alexIdoia> gordo what fs are your mounting devices ?
[03:06] <kslat3r> askand: just doing a little looking around
[03:06] <Anlar> alexIdoia: might be just a general hardware failure.. use the warranty..
[03:07] <gordo> alexIdoia fs?
[03:07] <alexIdoia> Anlar: warranty no more
[03:07] <alexIdoia> gordo: filesystem
[03:07] <alexIdoia> Anlar: would a clean install solve it ?
[03:07] <gordo> alexidoia generally fat32, external hd, usb pen and cd rom too
[03:07] <alexIdoia> Anlar: could*
[03:07] <alexIdoia> gordo: here is your answer
[03:08] <alexIdoia> fat32 do not respect nore keep file permissions
[03:08] <Anlar> alexIdoia: it's hardware issue.. I don't really think so
[03:08] <kslat3r> askand: http://www.movingtofreedom.org/2007/02/16/howto-remote-desktop-with-vnc-in-ubuntu-edgy-gnu-linux/ this seems like quite a good tutorial
[03:08] <alexIdoia> Anlar: but is there a way to be sure its an hardware problem ?
[03:08] <cy_`> hello
[03:08] <gordo> alexIodoia how do i fix the permissions now, everything is just messed up
[03:08] <cy_`> is there a package for the latest nvidia binary driver (100.14.11) ?
[03:08] <alexIdoia> Anlar: I had some HD problem lately, might the HD cause a overheat of the CPU ?
[03:09] <alexIdoia> gordo: you can't
[03:09] <MukiEX> Okay, Anlar, the bug report is great, but I have no clue which gnome application affects "Run Application" >_<
[03:09] <MukiEX> And there's no option to file a report without that info =(
[03:09] <gordo> alexIdoia: only optin is to reinstall OS?!?!?!
[03:09] <alexIdoia> gordo: this has nothing to do with the OS, it is the formating of your HD
[03:09] <Anlar> MukiEX: pick something, they will then choose something later :D
[03:10] <MukiEX> Cool =3
[03:10] <MukiEX> Oh crap I guessed right >_<
[03:10] <Anlar> MukiEX: they kinda dislike that.. but it isn't always so obvious :)
[03:10] <gordo> my hd is normal ubuntu fs
[03:10] <alexIdoia> gordo: you told me fat32
[03:10] <Romnous> hi guys
[03:11] <gordo> no fat32 is the pendrives
[03:11] <alexIdoia> and 'normal'ubuntu fs does not mean anything
[03:11] <gordo> my hd is normal ubuntu fs
[03:11] <alexIdoia> gordo: and where have you got permissions problem ?
[03:11] <fsckr> what is another program that is similar to mythtv for ubuntu or is there any?
[03:11] <gordo> nothing mounts on usb, just the mouse works
[03:11] <AutumnCat> gordo: there's not a fs called "normal ubuntu fs" ..
[03:11] <tritonx> fsckr : democracy player
[03:12] <gordo> dude i mean ext com'on
[03:12] <alexIdoia> AutumnCat: I told him that :)
[03:12] <fsckr> tritonx, i dont want a player i want a multimedia sweet
[03:12] <AutumnCat> alexIdoia: and what does it means ?
[03:12] <alexIdoia> hey dude you meant a lot of different things and not are related
[03:12] <honke> Is squid somewhat like a DNS server?
[03:12] <hylje> honke: squid is a proxy
[03:12] <honke> doesnt a DNS server cache webpages too?
[03:13] <hylje> no
[03:13] <tritonx> fsckr : hmm, I have to confess I didn't tried MythTV I thought it was a player
[03:13] <alexIdoia> honke: no
[03:13] <hylje> dns caches just dns
[03:13] <AutumnCat> hylje: no
[03:13] <user1_> is there email proxy?
[03:13] <honke> ok. Proxies do that but not DNS's
[03:13] <Skyrail> I hate my ISPs DNS server, they've cached my domain for too long D:<
[03:13] <fsckr> tritonx, no mythtv is a multimedia sweet ;)
[03:13] <honke> suite
[03:13] <tritonx> suite you mean ;)
[03:13] <Skyrail> suite
[03:13] <Skyrail> :B
[03:13] <tritonx> lol
[03:13] <fsckr> i was just wondering if there ya :P
[03:13] <fsckr> :P
[03:14] <fsckr> suite
[03:14] <Skyrail> lol
[03:14] <alexIdoia> Skyrail: do you need to change it al lthe time ?
[03:14] <fsckr> < still wakin up
[03:14] <zdks> hello
[03:14] <tritonx> What s wrong with MythTv it look quite good
[03:14] <pike__> tritonx: it can be a pain. but its not too bad to get working. might try freevo as well it tends to focus on music as well as video. myth is a better vid only box
[03:14] <fsckr> last time I messed with it it was a pain in the ruckus
[03:15] <fsckr> to set up and get going
[03:15] <ariel_> #ubuntu-es
[03:15] <tritonx> yeah I know thats why I never got to try it ;P
[03:15] <gordonjcp> pike__: and emulators!
[03:15] <fsckr> :)
[03:15] <Skyrail> alexIdoia: nah, I just changed it a few months ago and it's yet to change over from my old server to the new one. It's either I have an ISP that is a pain in the ass or my domain name settings are set so it doesn't check where the domain is pointing, I don't know lol
[03:15] <sagematt> Good day.
[03:15] <zdks> is ubuntu fully supported on nvidia geforce go 6100??
[03:15] <tritonx> zdks : I run it on a 6200, 6100 should be fine
[03:15] <sagematt> I need some help, I installed kubuntu-desktop and it changed my boot splash. I like ubuntu's better, how can I change it back?
[03:16] <Simplechat> adding sources to your repositries list doesn't require a restart?
[03:16] <tritonx> simplechat: no just apt-get update
[03:16] <enviouz> im fairly new to linux. any clues where i should look first as a source to my random net disconnection problem?
[03:16] <SlimeyPete> no. just update synaptic/adept/apt-get/aptitude
[03:16] <Romnous> your cable
[03:16] <anachronik> hey people
[03:17] <Romnous> xD
[03:17] <alexIdoia> Skyrail: it might not only be you ISP that is slow but the DNS server it connects to
[03:17] <Skyrail> sagematt: can't you just download the ubuntu splash and add it using the KDE settings manager?
[03:17] <simon> hello. I run feisty. Is there an addon to open .docx files in Open Office?
[03:17] <anachronik> I keep having the same problem wth ubuntu ver and over... "DSDT not found"
[03:17] <Simplechat> tritonx: i'm trying to get realplayer working for ubuntu.
[03:17] <Ajit> I installed ubuntu 7.04 (if i download gstreamer0.10-plugins-farsight_0.10.2-1ubuntu2_i386.deb and install then would this work to play mp3 files), i have intel celeron 2.4 GHz PC
[03:17] <alexIdoia> simon: .doc files ?
[03:17] <sagematt> Skyrail, I'm using Ubuntu. Do I really have to change it from KDE?
[03:17] <Simplechat> i'm following the instructions, and have added aditional repositries
[03:17] <zdks> wen turn i restricted drivers on, i get after restart black screen with logon page
[03:17] <Simplechat> however it still doesn't seem to want to apt-get
[03:17] <Romnous> sagematt: it's also in gnome?!
[03:17] <alexIdoia> Ajit: !restricted format
[03:18] <alexIdoia> 'restricted format
[03:18] <simon> docx
[03:18] <simon> files
[03:18] <sagematt> Romnous: I mean the boot splash, the one you see when the computer is booting.
[03:18] <Skyrail> alexIdoia: hmm, I've switched my Windoze PC to use OpenDNS but my ubuntu was being annoying and would switch back :( I've yet to try it on kubuntu though which I've recently installed
[03:18] <simon> from microsoft word 2007
[03:18] <alexIdoia> simon what is docx ?
[03:18] <sagematt> Romnous: kubuntu-desktop replaced it for kubuntu's boot splash. I didn't like that.
[03:18] <Romnous> i think he means .doc
[03:18] <pike__> Simplechat: the apt-get way is a simple 'sudo apt-get update' only a kernel update as a rule requires restart
[03:18] <simon> its the new open xml file format from the ne ms word
[03:18] <dimebar> docx is word 2007's default format
[03:18] <Ajit> I can't use apt-get to download and install restricted format (i don't have internet connection in my ubuntu partition)
[03:18] <Skyrail> sagematt: oh you just installed a kubuntu look?
[03:19] <dimebar> using ooxml and other nastiness
[03:19] <alexIdoia> simon: ah yes that shit
[03:19] <tritonx> zdks : you could always try to disable the driver in the drivers apps, and install the package from Nvidia
[03:19] <Simplechat> ok
[03:19] <simon> someone mailed me a document in docx and i heard there is a plugin for open office but cant find it
[03:19] <sagematt> Skyrail: I installed the whole kubuntu-desktop package.
[03:19] <enviouz> the wired network connection just seems to disconnect itself every 30 mins or so. been this way for a few days
[03:19] <Simplechat> thanks pike__
[03:19] <Skyrail> sagematt: including KDE?
[03:19] <alexIdoia> simon: ask your someone to send a standar format
[03:19] <Romnous> simon: like .doc
[03:19] <simon> shes on vacation
[03:19] <tont> hello... I have installed virtualbox after to have restart the session I re-enter and what does not work me l audio has happened? I have tried also ri-compile the alsa driver but the same one does not work
[03:20] <alexIdoia> Romnous: like odt
[03:20] <simon> isn't there a plugin for open office. OO should support it
[03:20] <Romnous> simon: if you can't find it, good chance there isn't one xD
[03:20] <simon> not that i support open xml but we have too
[03:20] <grim76> simon: If I recall correctly Novell has a plug in that works to open the docx files, but it only works with their customized version of OO.
[03:20] <dimebar> simon: i think it may be in the Novell edition of OpenOffice
[03:20] <simon> well i'm not the experienced guys that now where all those things are
[03:20] <alexIdoia> simon: why would OO develop a plugin to read bullshit proprietary format when all its needed is for you to ask for another format
[03:21] <Ajit> alexIdoia: when i try to play then i am getting error of restricted format so that i am asking whether gstreamer0.10-plugins-farsight_0.10.2-1ubuntu2_i386.deb would solve my problem?
[03:21] <alexIdoia> simon: then use standard file
[03:21] <alexIdoia> Ajit: read on ubuntu site about restricted format please
[03:21] <alexIdoia> Ajit: and best use ogg
[03:21] <simon> because. It may be a practical problem... right now i have to work to do and i cant open this document. the sender is on vacation. oops. Should OO have a plugin or should i switch back to windows
[03:22] <alexIdoia> simon: should you be lost ?
[03:22] <melange> can't you install ruby 1.8.6 on feisty?
[03:22] <Romnous> simon: if you have a windows partition, you might ry it on that lol xD
[03:22] <Ajit> alexIdoia: it means I will have to convert all mp3 into ogg?
[03:22] <simon> :P so there is no plugin yet...
[03:22] <aantn_> hello
[03:22] <grim76> The person sending you the document should have sent it in a reasonable format rather than a brand new format that 2/3rds of the world can't read.
[03:22] <Romnous> melange: sure you can
[03:23] <melange> Romnous: how?
[03:23] <Romnous> apt-get install ruby
[03:23] <dimebar> simon: there is a plugin however it is for the novell version of openoffice
[03:23] <Romnous> if it's in the repositories
[03:23] <Romnous> otherwise look for sourcecode on ruby site
[03:23] <pike__> simon: id look at crossover office or vmware to run xp virtually. sometimes you need to emulate windows. vmware-server is a very easy setup or search forums for seamless desktop which uses comb of qemu and rdesktop
[03:23] <alexIdoia> Ajit: that would be smashing but no you can read mp3 on your ubuntu system, please read about restricted format on ubuntu site
[03:23] <Simplechat> uh, has anybody here installed the realplayer .bin?
[03:23] <Romnous> simplechat: .bin for realplayer??? w-t-f
[03:23] <simon> well i'll have to send my file to a third party web client to get it converted. Don't like to. But if you get questions like mine again you can tell them there is a site that converts files for you. But i bet they store them and misuse your information
[03:24] <Simplechat> its from realplayer.com
[03:24] <melange> Romnous: nope - only 1.8.5 . and isn't it a mess to install it from source? I mean - mixing apt-get with manual install
[03:24] <Simplechat> i downlaoded the .bin, chmodded it +x
[03:24] <alexIdoia> Romnous: he meant bean for realplayer
[03:24] <Romnous> melange: not really
[03:24] <simon> http://docx-converter.com/ converts from docx to .doc
[03:24] <Romnous> simon: nice ;)
[03:24] <Simplechat> the installer runs and finishes, but doesn't actually do anything
[03:24] <Simplechat> it makes the setup folder
[03:24] <gangsterlicious> wtf
[03:24] <simon> but we really should get a native linux client, OO plugin to do the same thing
[03:24] <dimebar> simon: http://geekhacks.blogspot.com/2007/05/working-with-word-2007-documentsdocx-in.html
[03:24] <alexIdoia> Romnous: and please stop talking about doc in here
[03:24] <Romnous> simplechat: run the isntaller if it's in that folder
[03:24] <simon> if there are any developpers here that can hear me
[03:25] <Simplechat> ah
[03:25] <Simplechat> ok
[03:25] <Simplechat> it worked, kinda
[03:25] <dimebar> simon: go to that link i pasted; theres a tutorial on how to use the novell plugin in ubuntu
[03:25] <simon> thx
[03:25] <aantn> !botsnack
[03:25] <zdks> i can not find any geforce go 6100 drivers to download
[03:25] <Evolution2> hey guys. i was wondering what "checking sensors" means after a forced disk check on reboot. i have IFS Drives and i transferred a large file from windows to the linux partition. but i had to move it back because it told me that there is an error and that i need to install "apt" which i already have. i would like to know what to do if i want to move large files interpartitions
[03:25] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[03:26] <enviouz> anybody here use a realtek ethernet card?
[03:26] <Romnous> enviouz: i have one but it's not in use :/
[03:26] <sagematt> Help, I installed kubuntu-desktop and it replaced ubuntu's boot splash. I don't like kubuntu's splash, I want to change it back.
[03:26] <Simplechat> hehe, working :)
[03:26] <tritonx> zdks : http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/1.0-9639/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9639-pkg2.run
[03:26] <Romnous> simplechat: good :D
[03:27] <Simplechat> how do i change the default handler for a file format?
[03:27] <Daverocks> enviouz: yeah
[03:27] <Simplechat> oh
[03:27] <Simplechat> this is a problem, its not showing it as installed
[03:27] <enviouz> Daverocks:  do have problems with the net randomly disconnecting?
[03:27] <Simplechat> i can run it through terminal (which i did in the first place), but it isn't on any menu's
[03:27] <Daverocks> enviouz: nope
[03:27] <Romnous> simplechat: what is the problem with that?
[03:28] <enviouz> k
[03:28] <Simplechat> why would it do that?
[03:28] <SlimeyPete> have ou tried restarting gnome, Simplechat? I don't use gnome anymore but I usedto find that restarting helped.
[03:28] <Romnous> simplechat: for the filehandling are you running gnome?
[03:29] <Romnous> if so: http://linuxphile.org/node/16
[03:29] <tritonx> zdks, then login to failsafe session run sudo sh NVIDIA....run , maybe you will have to install the headers and some other stuff to compile it
[03:29] <enviouz> i been trying to figure it out the last week. connection drops almost every 30 mins. first i thought it was a problem with dchp but i realized that cant be it because i dont think it would try to renew my ip that often
[03:30] <Daverocks> enviouz: i assume it works fine on windows?
[03:30] <Simplechat> Romnous: i'm using gnome
[03:30] <user1_> evolution is for gnome or kde?
[03:30] <Romnous> bloody windows -.-
[03:30] <SlimeyPete> user1_: gnome
[03:30] <Simplechat> slimey, killall gnome?
[03:30] <enviouz> it did last i new. i havent used windows in about 6 months
[03:30] <alexIdoia> user1_: gnomefreak
[03:30] <SlimeyPete> user1_: KDE uses kontact by default
[03:30] <user1_> is there kde version of kde
[03:30] <Romnous> simplechat: check here for filehandling: http://linuxphile.org/node/16
[03:30] <user1_> is there kde version of evolution
[03:30] <SlimeyPete> Simplechat: just log out and back in again or hit ctrl-alt-backspace
[03:30] <alexIdoia> user1_: it should check on their website
[03:30] <Simplechat> ok :)
[03:31] <SlimeyPete> user1_: yes. Kontact.
[03:31] <enviouz> id check and make sure but i no longer have a windows partition
[03:32] <zdks> to get failsafe mode, i must ctrl-alt-f2 push? :D
[03:32] <tritonx> zkds , in the login screen, select session, then failsafe
[03:33] <enviouz> everytime it happens i also have to disable and renable networking twice to get back on the net too
[03:33] <Layer8> hi all!
[03:34] <Romnous> hi layer8
[03:34] <Layer8> is someone here familiar with kerberos?
[03:34] <Layer8> under ubuntu?
[03:34] <sagematt> Help, I installed kubuntu-desktop and it replaced ubuntu's boot splash. I don't like kubuntu's splash, I want to change it back.
[03:34] <Romnous> have used it but not under ubuntu
[03:34] <Romnous> and for only 30 minutes
[03:34] <Romnous> xD
[03:34] <Layer8> since I installed feisty i have a strange kinit...it behaves different from the one I knew
[03:35] <Faithful> What are diesel vs petrol prices like in the uk?
[03:35] <Layer8> and I see my password when I try to get a ticket
[03:35] <zdks> but i can not see anything, onlly black screen
[03:35] <Romnous> faithful: they have nothing to do with ubuntu?!
[03:35] <melange> great - I downloaded ruby 1.8.6, compiled and installed it. However - /usr/bin/ruby is still 1.8.5 and for some reason 1.8.6 is located in /usr/local/...
[03:35] <Faithful> Romnous: so...
[03:38] <Romnous> melange: mv it?
[03:38] <melange> Romnous: that's the way you normally do it?
[03:38] <Romnous> melange: no
[03:38] <Romnous> melange: you had install options??
[03:38] <Faithful> Romnous:  ubuntu is about community
[03:38] <erUSUL> melange: that's the standar things compiled on *local* site go to /usr/local
[03:38] <Romnous> faithful:  Topic is 'Official Ubuntu Support Channel
[03:38] <melange> Romnous: perhaps i could have set a prefix option when i ran ./configure
[03:38] <melange> Romnous: but nothing interactive
[03:38] <Romnous> -i
[03:38] <melange> erUSUL: ok - so I should just move it to /usr/bin ?
[03:38] <Romnous> but wait
[03:38] <Romnous> lol nvm
[03:38] <erUSUL> melange: just make /usr/local/bin be the first in your path variable or make the link /usr/bin/ruby point to your compiled version
[03:38] <BigBen> I have ubuntu in, but how can i get xchat, it never wants to open when i download it
[03:38] <gerze5ij> hello, i've got problems installing the ubuntu 7.04 amd64 edition. first i downloaded the livecd, but it didnt boot up, and yes i read the help and tried all options=)
[03:38] <SlimeyPete> BigBen: it's available via synaptic
[03:39] <gerze5ij> then i installed ubuntu thorugh the alternate disc, but now ubuntu doesn't boot
[03:39] <devilsreject> hello everybody
[03:39] <gerze5ij> i'm using a radeon graphic card, any suggesions? and yes i read on the forums, but nothing really helped me
[03:39] <Romnous> gerze5ij: you tried using the i386-disc?
[03:39] <BigBen> Also, the java didnt want to install
[03:39] <gerze5ij> why using the 32bit edition with a 64bit cpu?
[03:39] <grim76> gerze5ij: What kind of ATI Radeon do you have?
[03:40] <gerze5ij> grim76 x800 pro
[03:40] <Romnous> gerze5ij: because the 64bit doesn't work for you?!
[03:40] <khaki> when i turn on my PC with an USB WLAN dongle plugged, GSM does not load up
[03:40] <lamalex> does anyone know if there is an unoffical build of feisty for powerpc?
[03:40] <khaki> withouot the dongle it works fine, also when i plug it after GDM got fully loaded
[03:40] <enviouz> dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/eth0 for sub-path eth0.dbus.get.host_name  <---- could this have anything to do with my random disconnections?
[03:41] <SlimeyPete> BigBen: you are using synaptic or add/re progams, yes? not just downloading from the web (you shouldn't do that - it's always harder)
[03:41] <devilsreject> ive been running ubuntu for a while and the only place that gives me realtime typing is here or in a command prompt.. also my system seems to be running EXTREMEMLY sluggish takes forever for the simplist tasks never had this problem in the past any ideas
[03:41] <khaki> GDM*
[03:41] <erUSUL> BigBen: "wont open" or "didn't want to install" are not very informative msgs. Can you explain the problems a little better
[03:41] <erUSUL> !java | BigBen
[03:41] <ubotu> BigBen: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[03:41] <grim76> gerze5ij: ok does the PC boot to a black screen, but you can hit ctrl-alt-f1 to go to a tty?
[03:41] <khaki> with the dongle it stops loading at "starting common unix printig service:cupsd"
[03:41] <hwcd> is this on a gutsy install gerze5ij?
[03:42] <hwcd> sorry, just came in, sounded like my issue
[03:42] <gerze5ij> grim76 and can't even reset it with ctrl+alt+del, the numpad lights are blinking, but nothing more
[03:43] <grim76> gerze5ij: ok that I am not sure of.  Did you happen to try an i386 install to see if that worked?
[03:43] <gerze5ij> in which log can i find possible errors on my issue? i can login with the rescure shell
[03:43] <gerze5ij> the 32bit worked for me in the past
[03:44] <grim76> gerze5ij: do you even see the bootsplash?
[03:44] <damiano> ciao
[03:44] <erUSUL> gerze5ij: logs are in /var/log/ check out syslog,  messages and Xorg.log
[03:45] <damiano> a tutti
[03:45] <gerze5ij> no, i guess there could be a problem with the framebuffer, but i already tried to boot the livecd with fb=false, but didn't work
[03:45] <damiano> c' qualche italiano?
[03:45] <devilsreject> ive been running ubuntu for a while and the only place that gives me realtime typing is here or in a command prompt.. also my system seems to be running EXTREMEMLY sluggish takes forever for the simplist tasks never had this problem in the past any ideas
[03:45] <gerze5ij> ok and try it again and check out the logs, thanks
[03:45] <SlimeyPete> !italian
[03:45] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:45] <devilsreject> vid card drivers
[03:45] <erUSUL> !it | damiano
[03:45] <ubotu> damiano: please see above
[03:45] <devilsreject> ?
[03:46] <soulcandy> ha ha ha
[03:46] <youkilldkennedy> Can someone help me get FreeNX running?
[03:46] <grim76> gerze5ij: I don't know with that one.  I have not had a problem like that before.
[03:46] <youkilldkennedy> !pastebin
[03:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:46] <erUSUL> devilsreject: have you checked with top or other app if there's some app eating the cpu??
[03:46] <MukiEX> Anlar, you still there?
[03:46] <devilsreject> erUSUL lemme check but i dunt think sooo i mean itss reaaaaall bad like theres a problem with the vid card driver
[03:47] <youkilldkennedy> Error I get when trying to connect to FreeNX: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29368/
[03:47] <MukiEX> Anlar, here's my excessive bug report, I'm not sure if it's written right : http://pastebin.com/m4eb81be2
[03:47] <MukiEX> Hasn't been submitted yet.
[03:48] <BigBen> Oh, when i was checking out live cd, and started to install, and it cept saying: human-icon- theme is mssing final new line
[03:48] <cedric_> salut la foule
[03:48] <BigBen> and it says it when i was opening some things
[03:48] <cedric_> Hi everybody
[03:49] <devilsreject> nautalis looks like whats boggin it down
[03:49] <youkilldkennedy> Hello cedric
[03:49] <devilsreject> what does it do
[03:50] <erUSUL> devilsreject: nautilus is the file manager... whaen you open some location under places etc it even has a burning up
[03:51] <devilsreject> damn man i wounder what the deal is
[03:51] <devilsreject> i guess its just azerous
[03:51] <hwcd> Gutsy Gibbon Tribe 2 live CD: on boot, it loads to a brown/orange Ubuntu background, nothing more. I am able to do a Ctl+Alt+F1 to get to a terminal
[03:51] <hwcd> how can I install it, or how can I boot it into an install mode like Ubuntu used to have?
[03:52] <khaki> when i turn on my PC with an USB WLAN dongle plugged, GDM does not load up
[03:52] <khaki> withouot the dongle it works fine, also when i plug it after GDM got fully loaded
[03:52] <khaki> with the dongle it stops loading at "starting common unix printig service:cupsd"
[03:52] <erUSUL> hwcd: do you really need to install such an alpha release??
[03:52] <devilsreject> erUSUL -- thanks for the help man, one more question i think i have an older version of ubuntu if i go to do an install will i lose everything or will it just install on the current drives leaving my shit??
[03:52] <erUSUL> !gutsy | hwcd
[03:52] <ubotu> hwcd: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[03:53] <erUSUL> devilsreject: if you have home in a separate partition you can do a fresh install without loosing your files if not you have to do a backup
[03:53] <mwe> khaki: you need to check the log files. /var/log/*
[03:53] <sagematt> Help, I installed kubuntu-desktop and it replaced ubuntu's boot splash. I don't like kubuntu's splash, I want to change it back.
[03:54] <mwe> khaki: the error is close to useless unless you provide some logging
[03:54] <BadRobot> hi there .I need urgent help regarding GRUB ERROR 17,does anyone knows if ubuntu has disk rescue for a broken systems and where to get it?
[03:54] <erUSUL> !splash
[03:54] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[03:54] <khaki> okay mwe
[03:54] <BadRobot> i really much appreciate your help
[03:55] <berent> why am I getting the login screen twice everytime i start my system.
[03:55] <erUSUL> BadRobot: the livecd can act as a recovery tool
[03:55] <berent> on feisty
[03:55] <berent> why am I getting the login screen twice everytime i start my system on feisty
[03:55] <mwe> khaki: look for relevant messages in the files in /var/log
[03:55] <BadRobot> i have tried it,but it says it doesn't have it
[03:56] <devilsreject> ill just burn a dvd w all my shat and just reinstall all the aps sigh.. erUSUL -- are there any other versions of linux similar to ubuntu?? ive been usin ubuntu for like 3 and a half years upgrading as new versions come out.. i like the fact that i can get my os the way i want it then never have to mess with it tili want a new os :0)
[03:56] <BadRobot> I've tried to install ubuntu but when i reboot the laptop ,i appears the GRUB ERROR 17
[03:56] <sagematt> ubotu: Thanks.
[03:56] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[03:56] <Genomsaren> hi my friend says that he has downlaoded a game called warzone from synaptic. But I cant see this game in my synaptic. He said that I havent enabled all depos (sources). How can I do that?
[03:57] <Genomsaren> !synaptic
[03:57] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[03:57] <BadRobot> Linux Mint is a good option for Ubuntu
[03:57] <sagematt> erUSUL: Thanks, but it was not what I was looking for.
[03:57] <devilsreject> BadRobot --- what is Linux Mint???
[03:57] <BadRobot> It is a distro based on Ubuntu
[03:57] <erUSUL> BadRobot: what have you tried? http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml <<< see here what the error 17 means
[03:57] <hwcd> ubotu: I fully understand it is an alpha release, and I'm fine with limited support. I need to test some software on it over the next few months, and I have beta-tested the last 3 ubuntu releases
[03:57] <CaptainM> Genomsaren, there called repo's and you can enable more in synaptic package manager
[03:57] <BadRobot> try www.linuxmint.com
[03:58] <WaxyFresh> hi i ran dpkg-reconfigure yesterday,and when it was done i tryed it again to make sure it got everything,it proceded to reconfigure the same stuff all over again,now im running it a third time!why does it just keep going?is it powered by the energizer bunny?
[03:58] <devilsreject> sweet
[03:58] <hwcd> I just am blanking on this: is there a way to boot into just an 'install mode', skipping the live cd bit
[03:58] <TuxProbe> Hello folks, anyone knows how to autorun a cdrom? i dont mean the auto mounting from fstab preferences, but for instance for opening a browser with the TOC or such
[03:58] <hwcd> ?
[03:58] <BadRobot> thx erUSUL
[03:58] <Genomsaren> CaptainM: How can I do that?
[03:58] <mwe> hwcd: no
[03:58] <PriceChild> hwcd, using the alternate cd
[03:58] <mwe> hwcd: not using the desktop cd
[03:59] <hwcd> gotcha
[03:59] <hwcd> thank you
[03:59] <erUSUL> !alternate | hwcd
[03:59] <ubotu> hwcd: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[03:59] <hwcd> thank you very much, i'll do that
[03:59] <CaptainM> Genomsaren, go to system - administration - synaptick package manager from there settings - repositories
[04:00] <erUSUL> hwcd: as i pointed out earlier for gutsy help head to #ubuntu+1 please; TIA
[04:00] <Genomsaren> CaptainM: yeap
[04:00] <BadRobot> The problem is just because i've had the damm PcLinuxOS on this lappy
[04:01] <Nutubuntu> Firefox 2.0.4 seems to be constantly crashing. I think this is associated with the "zombie netstat" issue. Starting Firefox as 'firefox --sync -browser -a' has not resolved the issue. Is there another fix?
[04:01] <BadRobot> PLEASE Do not use PcLinuxOS 2007 because it may harm/destroy your HDD
[04:01] <BadRobot> It did to my
[04:01] <Genomsaren> CaptianM: I think I have to do something in 3rd Party Applications part right?
[04:02] <devilsreject> is LinuxMint its own version of linux>
[04:02] <berent> why am I getting the login screen twice everytime i start my system on feisty
[04:02] <BadRobot> now i am having this annoying GRUB ERRO 17
[04:02] <berent> why am I getting the login screen twice everytime i start my system on feisty .Also somewhere in middle it breaks up saying modules.dep not found
[04:02] <mwe> BadRobot: chances are it's fixable
[04:02] <BadRobot> Linux MInt is a distro based on Ubuntu and GNOME devilsreject
[04:03] <WaxyFresh> hi i ran dpkg-reconfigure yesterday,and when it was done i tryed it again to make sure it got everything,it proceded to reconfigure the same stuff all over again,now im running it a third time!why does it just keep going?is it powered by the energizer bunny?
[04:03] <mwe> BadRobot: that error is when grub cannot mount the selected partition, usually (but not always) because the config file is wrong
[04:04] <CaptainM> Genomsaren, well you can enable all the repositories at the ubuntu software tab. the package you want should be in there
[04:04] <Layer8> how can I configure the name of a symbol on my desktop? I want to have a carriage return if the text is more than X chars
[04:05] <raf256> hello
[04:05] <MrMist> Anyone here tried FreeBob ? I'm trying to make a FireWire sound-card work
[04:05] <raf256> when linux will support audio?
[04:05] <mwe> Layer8: I don't think you can specify it like that. nautilus settings affects it, though.
[04:06] <melange> raf256: what do you mean?
[04:06] <raf256> melange: when it will be possible to in example record sound from Mic on a linux
[04:06] <romboy_> now...
[04:06] <melange> raf256: it is possible
[04:06] <raf256> it doesnt work here
[04:07] <Layer8> mwe, the problem is that the text gets broader than the icon plus space...so it overlaps with other icons' text
[04:07] <raf256> records silence, or white noise, or noise, depending on which PC I try
[04:07] <jhaig> Where can I find a list of wireless network cards that will work with Ubuntu?  Does Ubuntu keep a "compatible hardware" list?
[04:08] <luical> hello, i need help, i cannot move to trash the documents that are in my ntfs disc
[04:08] <mwe> Layer8: I've seen that as well. try playing with the fonts and icon sizes
[04:08] <luical> a can shift delete them, but not move it to trash can
[04:08] <Layer8> mwe, or can I alter the space between the icons?
[04:08] <luical> can somebody help?
[04:09] <mwe> Layer8: I think you can. I'm not sure how, though.
[04:09] <Abhilash> can anybody please tell me how can i give dns server ip in /etc/hosts ?
[04:09] <Abhilash> sorry /etc/network/interfaces
[04:09] <CaptainM> luical, linux can't write to ntfs
[04:10] <thejoe> Abh > you dont do it in interfaces
[04:10] <luical> a know, but i have ntfs.3g
[04:10] <mwe> Layer8: if it's any comfort I can tell you it happens here as well, if I place to icons with long names next to each other
[04:10] <thejoe> you do it in /etc/resolv.conf
[04:10] <CaptainM> luical, weird. I'm afraid I can't help you
[04:11] <BigBen> when i installed xchat, i get this message:
[04:11] <BigBen> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/xchat-gnome-common_1%3a0.16-0ubuntu3_all.deb: files list file for package `human-icon-theme' is missing final newline
[04:11] <luical> i can manage all my ntfs files very well with ntfs 3g, the only think i cannot do is move documents to trash can
[04:11] <Layer8> ok
[04:11] <luical> can somebody help me?
[04:11] <ariel_> #ubuntu-es
[04:12] <Max00> hi ive just got a usb belkin bluetooth dongle. Ive been following the guide on the ubuntu website but when i do lsusb it just sits there. can anyone help?
[04:13] <Layer8> mwe, fixed it
[04:13] <Layer8> mwe, /apps/nautilus/icon_view/default_use_tighter_layout -> true
[04:14] <mwe> jhaig: there is not complete list I think, but !hardware
[04:14] <berent> what is bt_metadata in ~/.opera/
[04:14] <mwe> !hardware | jhaig
[04:14] <ubotu> jhaig: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[04:14] <WaxyFresh> hi i ran dpkg-reconfigure yesterday,and when it was done i tryed it again to make sure it got everything,it proceded to reconfigure the same stuff all over again,now im running it a third time!why does it just keep going?is it powered by the energizer bunny?
[04:14] <SlimeyPete> berent: at a guess, maybe someting to do with opera's bittorrent client?
[04:14] <mwe> Layer8: great
[04:14] <berent> SlimeyPete : sounds perfect
[04:15] <WaxyFresh> how do i change my debconf -p so it wont keep asking me silly questions?
[04:15] <wyggler2> is there a way to monitor my nvidia 6600 gpu temp from the command line?
[04:16] <mwe> Layer8: that makes the text overlap the icons below here
[04:16] <_6StringKng_> how do I get my middle mouse button working for liek scrolling in firefox, you know when you middle click it?
[04:16] <anachronik> I keep having the same problem with ubuntu over and over... "DSDT not found"
[04:16] <Layer8> mwe, right, but ok for me
[04:16] <mwe> Layer8: yeah. you can move the a bit as well
[04:17] <berent> SlimeyPete : where are cookies stored . are they stored unencrypted ?
[04:18] <WaxyFresh> what are my options for debconf -p teh man pages dont say it
[04:18] <WaxyFresh> hi i ran dpkg-reconfigure yesterday,and when it was done i tryed it again to make sure it got everything,it proceded to reconfigure the same stuff all over again,now im running it a third time!why does it just keep going?is it powered by the energizer bunny?
[04:19] <VoX> WaxyFresh: why do you keep running it?
[04:19] <WaxyFresh> VoX: because when i go to install something it says i have to
[04:19] <mwe> WaxyFresh: well sudo dpkg-reconfigure debconf tells you
[04:20] <gbw> hello, how can i "source" the /etc/environment ?
[04:20] <erUSUL> WaxyFresh: you are asking to reconfigure all what else you expect to happen?? (note the *re* before configure)
[04:20] <WaxyFresh> mwe: thanks
[04:20] <Pici> gbw: sudo pico /etc/environment     ? I'm not sure if thats what you're asking
[04:20] <Glave-work> I have a defunct lvm that I'm trying toget rid of, I've done a vgremove, lvremove and pvremove, but its still hanging onto /dev/evms/lvm2/lvm-raid/lvm0: whicis preventing me from disassembling that raid array
[04:21] <Glave-work> is there somethingI'm missing to nuke the lvm?
[04:21] <gbw> Pici, i edited the file, now i want to make the changes effective, how can i do it?
[04:21] <mwe> pico ;)
[04:21] <gbw> for .bashrc or similar, i had to do source .bashrc, but for /etc/environment?
[04:21] <WaxyFresh> erUSUL: lol just went back and looked it did tell me to use configure,for some reason i thought it said reconfigure,god i feel like a moron
[04:21] <honke> honk
[04:21] <dsnyders> Hi all!  I'm having problems mounting a filesystem by UUID.
[04:22] <mwe> isn't pico just a link to nano?
[04:22] <Pici> gbw: If anything, you'd have to log out/log back in
[04:22] <Pici> mwe: yes
[04:22] <erUSUL> WaxyFresh: ;D
[04:22] <gbw> Pici, i believe i can do it without logout, i hate logout :(
[04:22] <Pici> gbw: I'm not sure then.
[04:23] <mwe> Pici: does it act differently when called by the symlink, like some programs?
[04:23] <gbw> Pici, :( i will do a reboot then
[04:23] <berent>  where are cookies stored by opera. are they stored unencrypted ?
[04:24] <Pici> mwe: /usr/bin/pico is linked to /etc/alternatives/pico which is in turn linked to /usr/bin/nano (by default).  AFAIK, it acts the same.
[04:24] <mwe> berent: yes I think so, ~/.opere, IIRC
[04:24] <faraaz> hi all...
[04:24] <mwe> Pici: my pico link points directly to nano
[04:24] <faraaz> um...i was wondering if someone could help me out...having trouble connecting to undernet in IRC
[04:24] <berent> mwe : is it cookies4.dat?
[04:25] <Pici> mwe: Well, I'm running Gutsy here, it might be different.
[04:25] <mwe> Pici: maybe so
[04:25] <mwe> berent: I would think so. I haven't used it for a long time
[04:27] <dsnyders> Hi all!  I'm having problems mounting a filesystem by UUID.  vol_id gives me a number, findfs can find it, but mount (and fstab) canot.
[04:27] <_6StringKng_> could someone give me a link to that script for the media keyboard buttons again?
[04:28] <_6StringKng_> for controlling amarok
[04:28] <dsnyders> !uuid
[04:28] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[04:28] <gbw> Pici, found it, you can use . /etc/environment
[04:29] <WaxyFresh> hi im trying to use vmplayer and i get this error after opening a vmx file:Could not open /dev/vmmon: No such file or directory.
[04:29] <WaxyFresh> Please make sure that the kernel module `vmmon' is loaded. how would i load this?
[04:29] <blubloblu> _6StringKing_ have you tried keyTouch?
[04:30] <tapas> i failed setting up my wlan with graphical ubuntu tools.. three command lines later it ran
[04:30] <_6StringKng_> well someone directed to a page where I downloaded a script for them, it worked, until I restarted, but I deleted the file
[04:30] <Pici> gbw: Ah... that makes sense too.. :)
[04:31] <blubloblu> _6StringKing_ i don't know which one that is, a google search came up with this: http://keytouch.sourceforge.net/
[04:31] <gbw> Pici, but still i dont understand what that "." do
[04:31] <Pici> gbw: it just runs /etc/environment as if it was a script
[04:31] <tapas> what is the normal way in ubuntu to set up the wireless lan?
[04:31] <tapas> e.g. where do i click? :)
[04:32] <gbw> Pici, but the /etc/environment doesnt have +x mode
[04:32] <blubloblu> tapas: network manager in the tray?
[04:32] <derenrich> anyone know if the security.ubuntu mirror is down? I keep timing out
[04:32] <tapas> blubloblu: isn't there
[04:32] <gbw> derenrich, same here
[04:32] <blubloblu> system>admininstration> network <something>
[04:32] <tapas> blubloblu: i can start it manually from the menu. but it fails to connnect even to a non password protected net
[04:32] <derenrich> i think it is just slow, because it gets to about 80 soemthing percent and then dies
[04:33] <derenrich> but it is annoying
[04:33] <dsnyders> Do I have to reboot for UUIDs to take effect?
[04:33] <tapas> only way i could make it work was to use iwconfig and dhclient manually
[04:33] <tapas> (never fails :)
[04:33] <derenrich> in any case, why is OpenOffice stored on security.ubuntu.com, doesn't make any sense
[04:33] <blubloblu> security.ubuntu.com is up for me in ireland
[04:33] <derenrich> hmm, yeah it is working better now
[04:33] <gbw> Pici, running the script in console looks fine, but it doesnt work for update manager, update manager still use the old environment
[04:33] <derenrich> The download just finished
[04:34] <sunami> hi
[04:34] <gbw> seems nothing help except logout
[04:34] <sunami> can some one help me
[04:34] <derenrich> !ask
[04:34] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:34] <sunami> i cant seem to use ubuntu
[04:34] <sunami> i insert the cd
[04:34] <gbw> derenrich, still not for me  :(
[04:34] <sunami> ans it says i did not config the display correctly
[04:34] <derenrich> gbw, it is slow, just keep trying
[04:34] <gbw> still connecting
[04:35] <blubloblu> sunami: what graphics card do you have?
[04:35] <gbw> [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (82.211.81.138)] 
[04:35] <Pici> gbw: I just did an experiment.  It seems it runs each line of the file as if it was a bash command...
[04:35] <Anlar> gnome project's bugzilla just crapped itself
[04:35] <sunami> x1600
[04:35] <sunami> ati
[04:35] <sunami> the laptop version
[04:35] <derenrich> Anlar: what do you mean?
[04:35] <gbw> Pici, where can i find manual for "."? i do "man ." but no manual
[04:35] <Anlar> derenrich: database flipped
[04:35] <derenrich> oh man
[04:36] <Pici> gbw: It might be in the bash manpage
[04:36] <berent> why am I getting the login screen twice everytime i start my system on feisty .Also somewhere in middle it breaks up saying modules.dep not found
[04:36] <Anlar> I think that means.. laundry time :)
[04:36] <berent> why am I getting the login screen twice everytime i start my system on feisty .Also somewhere in middle it breaks up saying modules.dep not found
[04:36] <gbw> Pici, if i do "man bash" how can i skip to "." section?
[04:37] <gbw> Pici, i accidentally skipp to the "." section, and found that "." and "source" are identic
[04:37] <Pici> gbw: interesting
[04:38] <berent> labradors and tobi__ sound like .... no offence though
[04:38] <mirza___> Can you use apt-get to install in ~ on systems where you aren't root?
[04:38] <blubloblu> sunami: press Ctrl-Alt-F1
[04:38] <sunami> ok
[04:38] <sunami> will try it now
[04:38] <blubloblu> sunami: you should get a prompt
[04:38] <erUSUL> !repeat | berent
[04:38] <ubotu> berent: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:38] <sunami> then?
[04:39] <sunami> what do i do after the promp
[04:39] <TheCreationist> I have a very serious problem.  Almost all of my applications are crashing immediately with a "Segmentation Fault" error.  Even the terminal and Firefox.  What can I do?
[04:39] <berent> mirza__ : no
[04:39] <Glave-work> anyone familiar with lvm?
[04:39] <blubloblu> type in nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:39] <mirza___> berent, so I have to conf make make install manually?
[04:39] <stefg> mirza___: apt-get needs root access to the package database anyway... i doubt that'll work, but see !apt for more than a guess
[04:39] <sunami> when i get the error
[04:39] <sunami> or when i get the option to run and install from cd
[04:39] <blubloblu> when you get the error
[04:39] <sunami> ok
[04:40] <mwe> which is the better signal level for wifi, -33 dBm or -46 dBm?
[04:40] <ariel_> alquien habla espaol
[04:40] <blubloblu> that will show you your configuration
[04:40] <Pici> !es | ariel_
[04:40] <sunami> anything else i need to know
[04:40] <ubotu> ariel_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:40] <stefg> !info fakeroot | mirza___
[04:40] <ubotu> mirza___: fakeroot: Gives a fake root environment. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.10ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 97 kB, installed size 388 kB
[04:40] <sunami> before i restart
[04:40] <berent> mirza__ : yes. else you can login in single user mode as root and install without sudo
[04:40] <blubloblu> well, that command will show you your configuration
[04:40] <ariel_> pici
[04:40] <sunami> then i paste here?
[04:40] <berent> mirza__ : stefg is right
[04:40] <blubloblu> it won't actually fix anything but you'll see what's going wrong
[04:41] <sunami> k
[04:41] <Frogzoo> mwe: -33
[04:41] <labradors> SITUATION: A private school in a remote area of a third-world country; no Internet connection on-site (only in the city, where I am now); 60 Windows XP machines to use as clients; want to set up ubuntu as samba server.  QUESTION: For the given situation, is 7.04 better, or is 6.06LTS better?
[04:41] <blubloblu> sunami: pastes http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:41] <ariel_> quiero saber si ubuntu 7.04 se puede restaurar a sus valores originales
[04:41] <blubloblu> !es | ariel_
[04:41] <ubotu> ariel_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:41] <gordonjcp> labradors: tough call
[04:41] <Rienzilla> I'd use 6.06lts, but I doubt it will make a large difference
[04:42] <Pici> ariel_: escribe /j #ubuntu-es
[04:42] <TheCreationist> labradors: 6.06 is a lot more stable than 7.04 and would require updates less often.  So if you don't have internet access, I would recommend 6.06.
[04:42] <gordonjcp> labradors: yeah, I'd tend to agree with Rienzilla
[04:42] <Frogzoo> labradors: 7.04 desktop is superior - eg. gnome is much faster - also, get yourself a point to point wifi feed
[04:42] <gordonjcp> labradors: there's not a lot in it
[04:42] <ariel_> muchas gracias
[04:42] <ariel_> por su ayuda
[04:42] <TheCreationist> !sp | ariel_
[04:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:42] <stefg> labradors: i'd go for 6.06 for no apparent reason. Only if there's hardware which needs a newer kernel 7.04 would be the obvious choice
[04:42] <gordonjcp> labradors: how far from your school to the nearest internet connection?
[04:42] <Frogzoo> labradors: glad we set you straight ;)
[04:43] <gordonjcp> labradors: OpenSolaris!
[04:43] <hoelk> hmm i never had problems with 7.04
[04:43] <slytherin> Anybody here got New1973? :-D
[04:43] <slytherin> Neo1977
[04:43] <labradors> Nearest Internet connection is about nine miles.
[04:43] <hoelk> could think of no reason for 6.06
[04:43] <labradors> Due to terrain and road conditions, that's about a 45-minute drive.
[04:43] <TheCreationist> I have a very serious problem.  Almost all of my applications are crashing immediately with a "Segmentation Fault" error.  Even the terminal and Firefox.  What can I do?  And without Firefox, I can't download an Ubuntu ISO (unless someone could give me a wget command I could Alt-F2 to get it)...
[04:43] <slytherin> Neo1973 (this time right)
[04:43] <Frogzoo> labradors: line of sight ???
[04:43] <berent> labradors : without internet how are u in IRC
[04:44] <labradors> Otherwise, satellite Internet is just to expensive.
[04:44] <MrElendig>  labradors sat-link
[04:44] <TheCreationist> berent: He said he's in the city right now.
[04:44] <MrElendig> radio-link
[04:44] <stefg> hoelk: simply no experimental features as they were introduced in edgy, and haven't stabilized in feistall the wayy
[04:44] <gordonjcp> labradors: hm, nine miles is a bit long for cheap off-the-shelf gear
[04:44] <Frogzoo> labradors: satellite dishes can do wifi at 10miles if you have line of sight & clearance
[04:44] <berent> ok
[04:44] <MrElendig> you can get 400andsomething mb with a radiolink
[04:45] <labradors> If you also have the $$$, Frog.
[04:45] <gordonjcp> labradors: if you've got clearish line-of-site you can get high-end P2P links that will do it no problem
[04:45] <gordonjcp> labradors: aha, yes
[04:45] <mwe> Frogzoo: thanks. I gotta learn about these figures. negative signal levels sounds odd to me
[04:45] <Frogzoo> labradors: you'd be surprised...
[04:45] <gordonjcp> therein lies the rub
[04:45] <SlimG> What CLI tool is used to decode .ape files to .wav files ?
[04:45] <labradors> In addition, the Internet connections in the city are, for example $90/mo for 128k of bandwidth.
[04:45] <berent> labradors : this seems the question of the day . rib tickling
[04:45] <Frogzoo> mwe: dbs are an exponent, so bigger minuses are less
[04:46] <gordonjcp> labradors: Orthogon Gemini Lite, 10Mbps bidirectional, about 6000 GBP
[04:46] <gordonjcp> probably cheaper now
[04:46] <mwe> oh
[04:46] <Frogzoo> labradors: muhahahah
[04:46] <berent> :-))
[04:46] <mwe> now it starts to make some kind of sense to me then
[04:46] <TheCreationist> SlimG: .ape files haven't been supported in LInux yet for some reason.  At least not that I could find through Google or on here.
[04:46] <gordonjcp> labradors: would 9600 baud be any use?
[04:46] <annoia> I have a laptop where I need the madwifi drivers, but I need not to have the binary nvidia drivers (since they are too old). Is this possible through the package system? It seems as if it is all or nothing! :(
[04:47] <labradors> gordo, to compare to the local economy, my monthly rent is only $150.  6000 GBP is astronomical!
[04:47] <labradors> Not sure about 9600, gordon.
[04:47] <SlimG> TheCreationist: ok, thanks for letting me know
[04:47] <TheCreationist> SlimG: Good luck to you, though.
[04:48] <labradors> Will have to get the opinion of the guy who will have to use it.  I live in the city, but am helping out at the school.
[04:48] <gordonjcp> labradors: I don't know how much $150 is
[04:48] <Lounge> need help with a makefile. what command do you use to compile it?
[04:48] <annoia> lounge - make
[04:48] <SlimG> TheCreationist: Never a problem, allways have wine to fall back on :)
[04:48] <mhz`> labradors, what country btw?
[04:48] <Lounge> ok thanks
[04:48] <berent> labradors : a linux server for a windows . which country is that!!
[04:48] <gordonjcp> labradors: we don't have dollars here, we have the metric system
[04:48] <Lounge> do i need any extra libs for it?
[04:48] <Originooo> kennt jemand ein programm fr gnome ala klipper von kde?
[04:49] <annoia> gordonjcp - Metric dollars?
[04:49] <stefg> !de| Originooo
[04:49] <ubotu> Originooo: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:49] <Romnous|BRB> warum sprechen sie deutsch
[04:49] <labradors> gordon, it's about 75 GBP.
[04:49] <Romnous|BRB> ich glaube das es hier ein englischen irc ist
[04:50] <Romnous|BRB> oder wie man das auf deutsch sagt
[04:50] <niru> After installation the system does not reboot
[04:50] <kidko> what takes more RAM (on average), KDE or GNOME?
[04:50] <niru> I gave d-i finish-install/reboot_in_progress note
[04:50] <ererr> gnome.
[04:50] <niru> then also system does not reboot
[04:50] <niru> I am actually building cd
[04:50] <Lounge> the make command responding with "Linux kernel source not found" stop
[04:51] <labradors> The local currency is HNL, but I was referring to USD.
[04:51] <niru> what I need to give for automatic reboot in the seed filer
[04:51] <labradors> Country is Honduras.
[04:51] <stefg> kidko: gnome is slightly more ram hungry, but once you have firefox or openoffice loaded the situation reverses (because you'll have qt /and/ gtk libs un memeory under KDE)
[04:51] <maxagaz> My macbook runs on an grey screen and can't load rEFIT anymore, what can I do ?
[04:51] <pike__> kidko: typically gnome is less effecient than kde. but when a system has 1 gig of ram these days..
[04:52] <labradors> In ubuntu, is samba part of the default installation, or must one add it on afterward?
[04:52] <kidko> stefg: If a system could run Mac OS 7 fine, would it make a major difference which one I picked to use?
[04:52] <Frogzoo> labradors: not default, no
[04:52] <mhz`> i like gnome :(
[04:53] <mhz`> haven't had any probs with it..
[04:53] <berent> labradors : it can be installed easily no probs
[04:53] <labradors> Is the Internet nmecessary for installing it?
[04:53] <berent> labradors : you are already in city right
[04:53] <Lounge> ok downloading linux-source, hopefully that'll help compile this makefile
[04:53] <labradors> (samba, that is)?
[04:53] <anandanbu> How do i start the apache server in ubuntu 7.04
[04:53] <labradors> I am in the city.  the computers are not.
[04:53] <ererr> service httpd start
[04:54] <mhz`> labradors, it might be best to install where you are then do the installs/configuring/updating that is needed then bring the box back
[04:54] <labradors> I must download to CD or DVD and take it out there.
[04:54] <mhz`> that way you do have the access of the internet
[04:54] <dcomsa> anandanbu: /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[04:54] <Frogzoo> labradors: synaptic has a handy option "generate package download script" so you can capture all the needed dependencies
[04:54] <niru> any body can help me?
[04:54] <berent> labradors : make sure you download all dependent packs also
[04:54] <stefg> kidko: lets put it that way: you need 256 MB minimum to run ubuntu/kubuntu. if you have less run xubuntu. if you have less than approx. 96 MB then fluxbuntu is your only real option. So if you have an antique old world mac there (like 32 MB or 64 MB) don't even try KDE or Gnome
[04:54] <labradors> Of course.
[04:54] <BigBen> How can i get ubuntu to take mp3 files?
[04:55] <berent> labradors : best is to get the server and install and then take it back
[04:55] <anandanbu> dcomsa: Thanks
[04:55] <mhz`> anyone know how to get pidgin to accept returns when creating away messages/editing user info?
[04:55] <Frogzoo> !codecs | BigBen
[04:55] <ubotu> BigBen: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:56] <labradors> I could probably TRY to get the server back here for installation, but am not sure how much I would trust it to taking it back up there on a very bumpy school-bus trip.
[04:56] <niru> labradors, any idea
[04:56] <niru> no one is pinging here
[04:56] <kslat3r> ping is turned off for some reason ?
[04:56] <niru> kslat3r, any idea how to solve the booting problem
[04:57] <berent> labradors : pack it up in a cushioned box to resist the bumpy drive. take help of a packer
[04:57] <Thang> please help me, now I cannot use DVD-ROM
[04:57] <Lounge> i have an old sony vaio pcg-f450 laptop with kubuntu installed ~ but the graphics really lag on it. I wonder if it's because the graphics card is yamaha and is there any drivers for that brand?
[04:57] <berent> labradors : i dont think there is any software for that!
[04:57] <berent> !pack
[04:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:57] <devilsreject> hello everybody
[04:58] <labradors> @berent: must find way to get it to fit through a school-bus door once it has been packaged sufficiently.
[04:58] <Lounge> oh what not yamaha that's the sound card
[04:58] <Lounge> nm
[04:58] <devilsreject> i have ubuntu 6.10 and i am attempting to do the distribution upgrade but its giving me an error
[04:58] <berent> labradors : does it open from top!
[04:58] <devilsreject> liek i dont have a correct source or somethin
[04:58] <labradors> LOL!
[04:59] <labradors> Not unless it falls of into the river.
[04:59] <labradors> off
[04:59] <stefg> labradors: i'd get dapper, and a local repo on CD...
[04:59] <Thang> :(
[04:59] <Thang> please help me
[04:59] <Thang> I used it ok yesterday
[04:59] <berent> labradors : try a rescue boat on river
[04:59] <kslat3r> !DVD | Thang
[05:00] <labradors> I MAY be able to enlist the help of someonoe with 4wd.  We'll have to see.
[05:00] <Thang> yeah
[05:00] <ubotu> Thang: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[05:00] <Thang> I use a Samsung laptop
[05:00] <kidko> stefg: all right, thanks
[05:00] <labradors> Did you guys ever reach a consensus of choosing between 7.04 and LTS for this?
[05:01] <labradors> It sounded about as split as the discussions I saw on the forum.
[05:01] <TheCreationist> labradors: Most of us suggested 6.06, I believe.
[05:01] <Thang> my problem is, I can see the DVD Drive, but I cannot open to get the data inside :(
[05:01] <TheCreationist> labradors: But a lot also said it shouldn't matter ;)
[05:01] <ScreaminIke> what is the command to do use the X configuration utility?
[05:01] <labradors> Does the support of the LTS require an Internet connection on-site?
[05:01] <kslat3r> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:01] <TheCreationist> ScreaminIke: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:01] <TheCreationist> Yeah, what kslat3r said faster ;)
[05:01] <kslat3r> muaha
[05:02] <ScreaminIke> thx, all.
[05:02] <labradors> If so, it may be a moot point, or other factors may affect the decision.
[05:02] <sunami> hi i got a screen found but none have a usable configuration. erro
[05:02] <sunami> error*
[05:02] <TheCreationist> labradors: It does, generally.  However, with 6.06, since the updates won't happen as often as 7.04, you could simply download them once a month from the internet and then copy them to the respective systems.
[05:02] <osxdude|laptop> Thang: the DVD is bad.
[05:03] <niru> can i get any developer here around
[05:03] <niru> developers please ping
[05:03] <labradors> Thanks, TC.
[05:03] <niru> urgent help needed
[05:03] <TheCreationist> labradors: Or just don't update them at all.  6.06 is extremely stable and if it all works out-of-the-box, then there is no need to update at all.
[05:03] <stefg> labradors: although newer is better, dapper is now rather well tested and bugs are ironed out. Feisty might give you trouble (because there are new , not so well tested features in it). It's just not wirth it if all you need is a stupid fileserver running samba
[05:03] <Xenocide> is anyone experienced in Rexx?
[05:04] <niru> Xenocide, sorry no I am not
[05:04] <labradors> Well, stefg, maybe that's why they call it "Feisty."  LOL!
[05:04] <sunami> hi i got a screen found but none have a usable configuration. erro
[05:04] <labradors> Okay.  It looks like I'll try 6.06.
[05:04] <fevel> hello
[05:04] <niru> fevel, hi
[05:04] <berent> labradors : normally servers never need to update as they are serving a LAN . so once it works there is no need to update. For a school its more than enuf
[05:05] <kslat3r> thats not necessairily true if there are security holes or bugs found in programs surely?
[05:05] <stiV> hi everyone ... i have a question: i am trying to install multiple machines unattended, which is working pretty good, i have my own mirror and costumized packages (eg. apache2 package w. ssl generation and change config files built in) but i just can't figure out how to tell the "postfix" package to stop asking for configuration. (i changed the package to hold all the configs i need). anyone an idea or a link where i could find inf
[05:05] <labradors> Next question: The download page seems to be FTP-based.  Since there can sometimes be problems with downloads THAT large on the connections we have here, are there any BitTorrent-based downloads for 6.06LTS?
[05:05] <berent> labradors : but yeah you have to cross the river though
[05:05] <TheCreationist> kslat3r: Why would security be a major issue in a non-network environment?
[05:06] <kslat3r> is this not?
[05:06] <ScreaminIke> is there another utility i can use to configure x? or some argument i should be using?
[05:06] <sarthor> Hi, Using ubuntu feisty, how to route add ppp0? my ip is not static, thats Y i want to add my modem as my default route. Sorry for my weak english
[05:06] <Dante123> hi all.....I'm planning on installing ubuntu for my neighbour....he has an HP Media Centre m7250 with Windows XP Media version on it......I notice that there is a small fat32 partition (HP may have some diagnostice stuff on there) and the rest of the drive is ntfs.......when I install....I don't want to wipe out his windows........and the choices are guided (use entire drive).......guided (use largerst continous free space) and manual.......I
[05:06] <osxdude|laptop> niru: I just pinged you. "(10:04:48 AM) PING reply -- Lag: 0 seconds"
[05:06] <OldPink> //join ##mbhoy
[05:06] <fevel> I have a pavilion dv2000 Laptop, does anyone know if I could get things going with Ubuntu on this hardware...I use Vista and im scared to make the switch because of my wificard and lightscribe drive
[05:06] <stefg> !automate | stiV
[05:06] <ubotu> stiV: Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[05:06] <Dante123> want to give him a 20gb partition........but when I go into Manual.....i get confused.......I tried using gparted and resizing the ntfs partition.... but it wouldn't let me....said there were errors or the drive needs to be checked for errors......any suggestions?
[05:06] <niru> osxdude|laptop, do u know the solution of what I asked
[05:07] <sarthor> Hi, Using ubuntu feisty, how to route add ppp0? my ip is not static, thats Y i want to add my modem as my default route. Sorry for my weak english
[05:07] <pandemonium> hez
[05:07] <pandemonium> hez
[05:07] <sadsadsadA> Does anyone know why my cronjob doesnt work?: */5 * * * * root /usr/bin/php /var/www/erage/cron/usersOnline.php
[05:07] <pandemonium> hey....whats up here
[05:07] <berent> labradors : try apt-get . it recovers with any previously cut package
[05:07] <stefg> !dialup | sarthor
[05:07] <W9ZEB> alright,  I had an Edgy computer,  that likely has been updated step by step since warty.
[05:07] <ubotu> sarthor: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[05:07] <osxdude|laptop> niru: no...
[05:08] <labradors> Hmmm...Is that apt-get available for Windoze?  Unfortunately, that's what is on the system where I will need to do the download.
[05:08] <W9ZEB> I replaced my /etc/sources.list with one from Fiesty.  did apt-get update,  apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:08] <hendrixski> :-( I have to chmod something to be -rw-r----- ... but I can't figure out what the number code is for it... and how do I not get the "d" to show up in the front?  Anyone have any helpful words of wisdom?
[05:08] <stefg> !download | labradors
[05:08] <ubotu> labradors: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[05:08] <W9ZEB> and now I'm running into troubles.  It's upset about courier-base.
[05:09] <sarthor> ubotu, Dear I have read, but due to my less knowledge, i am unable to understand that. .i am new, i only want to add my ppp0 as my default
[05:09] <sadsadsadA> Does anyone know why my cronjob doesnt work?: */5 * * * * root /usr/bin/php /var/www/erage/cron/usersOnline.php
[05:09] <W9ZEB> is anyone able to help re cleanly remove/reinstall/repair courier-base and it's deps?
[05:09] <kitche> hendrixski: d is part of the directory you'll have it no matter what
[05:09] <stefg> labradors: download an iso, burn it to CD, or get a free copy from !shipit , if you can't burn
[05:09] <Dante123> hi all.....I'm planning on installing ubuntu for my neighbour....he has an HP Media Centre m7250 with Windows XP Media version on it......I notice that there is a small fat32 partition (HP may have some diagnostice stuff on there) and the rest of the drive is ntfs.......when I install....I don't want to wipe out his windows........and the choices are guided (use entire drive).......guided (use largerst continous free space) and manual..
[05:09] <berent> labradors : why don't you get a  cd shipped
[05:09] <hendrixski> W9ZEB, you know they have a program to do the updates so that you can't mess it up if you do it from command prompt
[05:09] <W9ZEB> hendrixski: that program would have required X be installed wouldn't it.
[05:09] <ScreaminIke> is there another utility i can use to configure x? or some argument i should be using?
[05:09] <kslat3r> !partitioning | Dante123
[05:09] <ubotu> Dante123: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[05:09] <OldPink> Dante123, use manual, resize the largest partition down by minimum 2GB then make a new one
[05:10] <Frogzoo> ScreaminIke: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[05:10] <stiV> ty ubotu - the installation is working very well, and i have a working unattended netboot environment, but because i changed some components on my mirror i can't get the installer to use the packages i want before the first boot, so i made a one-time bootscript (which works as well) where i do an aptitude update and install all the packages i want via aptitude install XY. thing is, postfix asks questions and i wandted to know if i 
[05:10] <labradors> berent, because the postal service is much less reliable.  A post card may take 6-8 weeks, IF it gets there.
[05:10] <hendrixski> kitche, oh... hhmmm... because I hozed my /var/cache/apt/archive directory :-( and I tried recreating it,, but the permissions are all wrong so I can't apt-get
[05:10] <hendrixski> W9ZEB, yes it would
[05:10] <pike__> ScreaminIke: either sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or or guess sudo Xorg -configure though i havent dont that in ubuntu. or just edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf with a text editor
[05:11] <sarthor> using feisty, how to add ppp0 as my default route, like we add an ip as route on the command route add default gw xx.xx.xx.xx
[05:11] <Dante123> OldPink...when I get to the manual section......and it shows me the drives......i.e. the fat32 partition, the ntfs, do I select the ntfs and "edit partition"?
[05:11] <W9ZEB> hendrixski: then it wasn't available for me.....  also a moot point now that I have a half broken machine.
[05:11] <labradors> It also costs a LOT!  Sending a four-page document from here to the States via FedEx, for example, is $40.
[05:11] <hendrixski> kitche, so you're saying d is for directory?  so I shouldn't have created a directory it should be a flat file?
[05:11] <derenrich> i forget, how do I know what version of ubuntu I am running from the terminal?
[05:11] <mghelich> can anybody here help me with my errors on Winecfg?????
[05:11] <labradors> BT would be the most reliable way for this set up.
[05:11] <OldPink> Dante123... Click Resize/Move
[05:11] <berent> labradors : i wonder Honduras is so backward!!! or are you simply crafting out
[05:11] <yurimxpxman2> how can I kick someone with my registered username on IRC?
[05:11] <pike__> labradors: geez. are you on a mountain in tibet or something?
[05:12] <Frogzoo> sarthor: add in /etc/ppp/peers/dsl-provider  "defaultroute"
[05:12] <kitche> hendrixski: it should eb a directory but if you deleted the folder then how do you know what the permissions should be?
[05:12] <hendrixski> W9ZEB, good point.. sorry... I just remember that when I did my upgrade I used it and it was flawless, and some friends who were like "I can do it myself" had issues like you wouldn't believe....
[05:12] <berent> darenrich : lsb_releaste -a
[05:12] <berent> darenrich : lsb_release -a
[05:12] <Frogzoo> sarthor: that should give you a default route when ppp comes up
[05:12] <hendrixski> kitche, I ran ls -l on another computer I have
[05:12] <W9ZEB> hendrixski: nod nod....
[05:12] <labradors> berent, it's an odd mix here.  Some things you would not expect to find are easy to get.  Other things that you WOULD expect can be just about unknown.
[05:12] <kitche> hendrixski: ok what is the octal code I can give you the numeric code for it
[05:12] <sarthor> Frogzoo, Bundles of thanks brother
[05:12] <hendrixski> kitche, I guess I can try to copy it from the other computer :-/ hhhmmmm
[05:12] <Dante123> OldPink...I didn't see those options on the screen as button.....do I click on the ntfs partition and then right click or look for those option under the menu bar....or do they come up after clicking edit partition
[05:13] <W9ZEB> more specifically my problem is....  When doing:  apt-get -f install
[05:13] <mghelich> Problem with aconfigurin audio in wine...anybody can help?
[05:13] <Frogzoo> sarthor: yw
[05:13] <labradors> Remember: this is the second poorest country in the Western hemisphere, after Haiti.
[05:13] <Frogzoo> sarthor: you probly also want "replacedefaultroute"
[05:13] <ChuckyNo1> I love Ubuntu
[05:13] <kitche> hendrixski: but anyways you lost all of the packages that you installed if you deleted the archieve folder they are still installed you just lost the .deb's for them
[05:13] <ChuckyNo1> byebye
[05:13] <derenrich> thanks
[05:13] <OldPink> Dante123. Right click it in the list below, then look for Resize/Move
[05:13] <hendrixski> kitche I would need it to be  -rw-r----- but I've tried a bunch of numbers and can't figure it out
[05:13] <W9ZEB> I get an error saying, dpkg: error processing courier-authdaemon (--remove):  package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal
[05:13] <sarthor> Frogzoo, OK.. am checking that,
[05:13] <Dante123> okay thanks
[05:14] <Jen> can I add specific settings for at "display" when I use VNC to connect remotely to my pc?
[05:14] <berent> labradors : then burn a iso image onto a cd/dvd and take it
[05:14] <hendrixski> kitche, oh... I can re-download them worst comes to worse, right?  in case I'd need to dpkg -reconfigure anything
[05:14] <Jen> ie now I connect to display 0, but the resolution is rather high
[05:14] <OldPink> :) Glad I could help, Dante123
[05:14] <labradors> That's what I will probably do.  Was trying to determin if an ISO were available via BitTorrent.
[05:14] <yurimxpxman2> how can I kick someone using my registered nick in IRC?
[05:15] <berent> !download
[05:15] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[05:15] <kitche> hendrixski: chmod 610 try this
[05:15] <stefg> yurimxpxman2: #freenode is the cahnnel to ask, and /msg nickserv ghost <nick> <pass> is the command
[05:16] <yurimxpxman2> stefg: thanks :)
[05:16] <ScreaminIke> is there some sort of automatic tool i can use to reconfig x? because i, honestly, had everything working fine.... then did something to mess it up. don't know what... but if i could just... reconfigure it... automatically... that'd be awesome
[05:16] <ScreaminIke> like... how did ubuntu do it when i installed the first time?
[05:16] <labradors> releases.ubuntu.com appears to be HTTP, not BT.
[05:16] <ScreaminIke> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969
[05:17] <cosmic303> hiya room, i just bought a hauppauge hvr 100 tv card and i dont get any sound under kubuntu 7.04..any hints?
[05:17] <hendrixski> kitche, close... it's got an x instead of an r... so like 620 or something... I can keep playing around with that
[05:17] <W9ZEB> ok....  How do I repair a package, and all it's deps?
[05:17] <cosmic303> hvr1100 that is
[05:17] <fevel> I just installed ubuntu 7.04 and even though he detected my sound card...I have no sound
[05:18] <fevel> can someone please help me
[05:18] <stefg> !apt
[05:18] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:18] <hendrixski> ScreaminIke, yes,  dpkg -reconfigure can reconfigure x to its orriginal state.... I think that re-installs the package basically
[05:18] <OldPink> fevel, what's the problem?
[05:18] <kitche> hendrixski: just change the second nubmer sicne 6 is right the second number is what's wrong it might be a 4 but not sure
[05:18] <OldPink> !irc
[05:18] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[05:18] <berent> labradors : which is ur processor amd/ intel
[05:18] <labradors> AHA!  Ike, that looks like the ticket.
[05:18] <W9ZEB> wow.....  man apt sucks.
[05:18] <labradors> Intel
[05:18] <fevel> OldPink: I simply have no sound
[05:19] <hendrixski> kitche,  :-) yuppers... that got me closer... because I was doing it one thing at a time and that just wasn't getting me anywhere
[05:19] <nesssy> small problem with anjuta 2.2
[05:19] <fevel> OldPink: It detected my sound card
[05:19] <labradors> Hmmm no sound?  Must be a MIME setting,  LOL!
[05:19] <nesssy> i can compile the programs. but im not able to build anything?
[05:19] <fevel> labradors: I just installed ubuntu for the first time
[05:19] <nesssy> good for ya fevel :)
[05:19] <hendrixski> W9ZEB, apt is supposed to be a programmer tool, and not an average user tool... synaptic may be better for your purposes
[05:20] <fevel> its a HP pavilion notebook
[05:20] <llllllll> The rhythmbox music player - is there a way to set it so when minimised it goes to the system tray (or whatever it's called on ubuntu) rather than on the bar at the bottom of the screen?
[05:20] <W9ZEB> hendrixski: again, with the Requires X :)
[05:20] <ScreaminIke> command didn't work
[05:20] <RamSeize> question is ubuntu like gentoo? can be customized the way you want, add programs etc.?
[05:20] <hendrixski> W9ZEB, nope.... try synaptic from command line
[05:20] <mhz`> same thing here, fevel
[05:20] <nesssy> apt-get rocks :)
[05:20] <W9ZEB> hendrixski: really?  that's a new one for me.
[05:20] <stefg> !ubuntu | RamSeize
[05:20] <ubotu> RamSeize: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[05:20] <cosmic303> hello? did anyone read my message at all? :) need help with my tv card :)
[05:20] <W9ZEB> synaptic command not found
[05:20] <fevel> mhz`: How did you get sound to work??
[05:21] <nesssy> anything with anjuta problems? specifically the build menu being greyed out?
[05:21] <mhz`> mine was auto detected
[05:21] <fevel> mhz`:  it seems muted
[05:21] <nesssy> oops anyone*
[05:21] <mhz`> its an ac contex audio or something
[05:21] <fevel> mine too
[05:21] <hendrixski> W9ZEB,  hmmm.... I know there is a command-line version of it
[05:21] <mhz`> 7.04?
[05:21] <fevel> yes
[05:21] <nesssy> anjuta
[05:22] <ScreaminIke> hendrixski: :( any other suggestions?
[05:22] <hendrixski> W9ZEB, or something similar... but don't quote me on that... I've been an apt-getter all the way
[05:22] <nesssy> hendrixski, wat is the command to list all installed packages on the system?
[05:23] <hendrixski> ScreaminIke, nope... I wish I knew more myself
[05:23] <mhz`> yo fevel, try going to system > sound
[05:23] <mhz`> i have autodetect for sound events, music/movies, playback...
[05:23] <W9ZEB> I guess it's just time to back up my /home and rebuild from bare metal.
[05:23] <rambo3> nesssy, dpkg -L
[05:23] <W9ZEB> that's not a big deal.
[05:24] <rambo3> nesssy, dpkg -l
[05:24] <mhz`> sound capture is ALSA
[05:24] <mhz`> and device is intel ich6
[05:24] <nesssy> thanks rambo
[05:24] <mhz`> ok gtg, dentist
[05:24] <nesssy> have fun mhz
[05:25] <osxdude|laptop> I have intel ich5!
[05:25] <nesssy> i installed anjuta and its build menu is greyed out. I can compile programs but i cant build them. :( any idea?
[05:26] <Anlar> nesssy: you got build-essential installed?
[05:26] <nesssy> yup anlar. i installed that before installing anjuta
[05:26] <ScreaminIke> ok. i'm going to get rid of xserver-xorg and reinstall it. how do i make sure it takes its config files with it?
[05:26] <Anlar> ok, then I have no idea. I just have a faint memory trace of there being some silly simple catch
[05:26] <porkpie_1> hi guy's  how do I false apache to reinstall ...  the install is broken but apt-get will not reinstall correctly
[05:27] <nesssy> oh damn, i thought you were thinking up a solution real fast :)
[05:27] <BoostedSS> where can I browse a list of packages for ubuntu?
[05:27] <W_McL> ScreaminIke, use atpt-get --purge remove or aptitude purge
[05:27] <BoostedSS> Has anyone here ran ubuntu on a tablet?
[05:27] <W_McL> ScreaminIke, *apt-get
[05:27] <nesssy> i just checked. I got build-essential version 11.3
[05:28] <labradors> Thanks for the help, everyone.  I found the torrent for Dapper through torrent.ubuntu.com and it looks like that will work.  I do hope I can get someone with 4wd to cart the computer back and forth.  It would make things a lot easier than doing the install away from any Internet connection.
[05:28] <labradors> For now, time to run.
[05:28] <vox754> labradors, wait
[05:28] <DJ-_-> anyone know of any open source vidoe converters?
[05:29] <DJ-_-> video*
[05:29] <labradors> tsup, vox?
[05:29] <vox754> labradors, if you want a lot of software you may as well download the 3 DVDs of the entire Debian distribution.
[05:29] <pike__> DJ-_-: i sometimes use vlc to convert and stream video.
[05:29] <labradors> I've already done that, but had heard that ubuntu would be particularly suited for the setting I mentioned earlier.
[05:29] <nesssy> ANJUTA sufferer here. any help appreciated!
[05:29] <DJ-_-> pike__: ot can convert?
[05:30] <Frogzoo> BoostedSS: apt-cache search whatever, or visit packages.ubuntu.com
[05:30] <DJ-_-> it*
[05:30] <labradors> In case you weren't here.....
[05:30] <Frogzoo> BoostedSS: or just open synaptic
[05:30] <labradors> SITUATION: A private school in a remote area of a third-world country; no Internet connection on-site (only in the city, where I am now); 60 Windows XP machines to use as clients; want to set up ubuntu as samba server.  QUESTION: For the given situation, is 7.04 better, or is 6.06LTS better?
[05:30] <pike__> DJ-_-: well it converts video to theora for me pretty much on the fly
[05:30] <labradors> That's a recap.
[05:30] <DJ-_-> pike__: ok thx i want to convert HD avi to mpeg-2
[05:30] <vox754> labradors, mmm... yes I read. But still, Ubuntu is based on Debian.
[05:30] <labradors> True,
[05:30] <nesssy> its a pity
[05:30] <porkpie_1> W_Mcl: hmm! that didn't work either ?
[05:31] <vox754> labradors, okay, you are dismissed.
[05:31] <DJ-_-> bbl
[05:31] <BoostedSS> anyone here ran ubuntu on a tablet before?
[05:31] <sysop> how do i copy a floppy image onto a floppy?
[05:31] <Frogzoo> sysop: dd
[05:31] <sysop> and does it need to be formatted first?
[05:31] <ScreaminIke> god, i hope this works
[05:32] <Frogzoo> sysop: not if you dd the image, no
[05:32] <labradors> Okay, vox, consider it THIS way: I am familiar with Linux, but the guy who will be in charge of the system once it's in place has never touched it.  Would ubuntu or straight debian be better for that?
[05:32] <sysop> cheers frogzoo
[05:32] <W_McL> porkpie_1, what didn't work?
[05:32] <porkpie_1> the apt-get --purge remove
[05:32] <ScreaminIke> labradors, i haven't used debian, but i have set up a number of desktops for know-nothings using ubuntu. they seem happy.
[05:32] <labradors> He had a disk of Fedore, but it was kind of ugly.  Even gave us errors during the installation - I thought that only happened with Windoze!
[05:33] <porkpie_1> I still cannot reinstall apache2
[05:33] <labradors> Thanks, Ike, that's how I was reasoning it, as well.
[05:33] <labradors> ...and I have used Debian.
[05:33] <labradors> ...just not ubuntu....yet.
[05:34] <ScreaminIke> have you ever set up debian boxes for know-nothings?
[05:34] <labradors> No.
[05:34] <hendrixski> kitche, cool... I got it to work :-)  "lock" was a file (hence the problem) and now apt-get works again :-)
[05:34] <vox754> labradors, mmm... tough indeed. I would say that since it is a server, most utilities would be the same without regarding the Linux distribution. But yeah, you may be right. I thought that you would need a lot of packages without internet access. And ubuntu is aimed more to desktop users in the city.
[05:34] <Romnous> YAY
[05:34] <labradors> Just my own use, and it has been a while, even for that.
[05:34] <Romnous> :P
[05:34] <ScreaminIke> well... try debian. if they don't like it... switch to ubuntu
[05:34] <kitche> hendrixski: yeah that would have been good to know that you had a lock file :)
[05:35] <lisette_> j #momomo
[05:35] <porkpie_1> W_Mcl:the install is not creating the apache2 folder in etc
[05:35] <porkpie_1> W_Mcl:is there any other way to false an install
[05:35] <labradors> What other, specific points really make ubuntu different from regular debian, in that case?
[05:35] <hendrixski> vox754, you can get DVD's of all the Ubuntu repositories mailed to you in like 2 or 3 business days
[05:35] <hendrixski> vox754, ondisk.com
[05:35] <james> Someone who really knows what their doing, I need a lot of help.
[05:36] <hendrixski> vox754, then you don't need a fast internet connection
[05:36] <james> Is anyone here a Ubuntu genius?
[05:36] <W_McL> porkpie_1, sorry, wasn't talking about an apache2 install at all. probably someone with a similar name?
[05:36] <vox754> hendrixski, well, it would be best to know that before downloading ubuntu. I don't think they mention that in the main download pare.
[05:36] <dr_willis> james,  its best if you ask an actual question......
[05:36] <osxdude|laptop> !dumb
[05:36] <ubotu> dumb is mc44
[05:36] <sysop> dd is confusing
[05:36] <Frogzoo> james: 1100 people in here, but they're all nubs
[05:36] <stefg> !anyone | james
[05:36] <ubotu> james: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:36] <hendrixski> !ask | james
[05:36] <ubotu> james: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:36] <r__> what's the name of the program that let's you access windows folders and vice-versa?
[05:37] <james> i need a way to disable the "saving vesa state" when starting the live cd in 6.06 or 7
[05:37] <stefg> !samba | r__
[05:37] <dr_willis> r__,  samba, install samba, and samba-doc  :) or use smb:// in the file manager
[05:37] <porkpie_1> W_Mcl:can I false an install another way
[05:37] <hendrixski> vox754, no they probably don't, because ondisk is a separate business... though, if you googled it you may find them
[05:37] <ubotu> r__: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:37] <sysop> i have the super grub floppy image and want to put it on a floppy
[05:37] <sysop> dd is confusing me
[05:37] <W_McL> porkpie_1, ok i see now... looks like a problem with the package management
[05:37] <r__> dr_willis: you know where I can get it?
[05:37] <Frogzoo> sysop: google is your friend
[05:37] <dr_willis> dd if=/theInputFile of=/dev/floppy
[05:38] <vox754> hendrixski, that is the point. You can get the whole repositories but it is not clear on which terms.
[05:38] <dr_willis> r__,  samba is inte repositories...
[05:38] <W_McL> porkpie_1, what does apt-get say?
[05:38] <hendrixski> james, oooh... that's a tough one... you're right, needs an expert :-(
[05:38] <r__> dr_willis: thanks
[05:38] <dr_willis> r__,  depending on you rneeds samba mey be over kill.
[05:38] <sysop> cool thanks doc, i would have never figured that out
[05:38] <labradors> Well, guess that's all for now.  bye, again.
[05:38] <james> i need a way to disable the "saving vesa state" when starting the live cd in 6.06 or 7. SOMEONE please help me!
[05:38] <Ayarcy> I'm trying to set up automated installs for a large network of Dapper machines.  What's the best way to do it?
[05:38] <porkpie_1> W_McL:it says it installs ok
[05:39] <stefg> !automate | Ayarcy
[05:39] <ubotu> Ayarcy: Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[05:39] <hendrixski> vox754, the terms are simple... you pay $10 or $20, you get them the next day, and they're all yours to do with as you please
[05:39] <W_McL> porkpie_1 does apache start?
[05:39] <kbrooks> inimyi/
[05:39] <kbrooks> !java
[05:39] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[05:39] <porkpie_1> W_McL:no there isn't a apache2 dir in etc
[05:39] <nesssy> the build menu in anjuta is greyed out. Although i can compile a hello world program, i can't seem to run it cos i cant build it
[05:39] <nesssy> any idea wahts happening
[05:39] <dr_willis> Ayarcy,  theres some way you can set up an OEM type install/customized cd.. but never done so.
[05:39] <Frogzoo> Ayarcy: quickest would be to create a drive image & then spam that out to the disks, just change the hostname
[05:40] <vox754> hendrixski, yes but do you get them to third world countries with lack of roads and the guy (who already left) was asking? (Answer me and then get back to work!)
[05:40] <nesssy> anjuta plz
[05:41] <Ayarcy> stefg: Thanks.
[05:41] <W_McL> porkpie_1, weird. try to reinstall it again, or do a dpkg-reconfigure apache2
[05:41] <hendrixski> vox754, I assume they ship internationally.  if you check the website you may find out
[05:41] <rustalot> how would I go about setting up RAID 1 without any special hardware?
[05:41] <Ayarcy> Frogzoo: Well, it isn't just a one-time thing.  It'll be for a trickle of new machines too.  All different hardware.  University mish-mash.
[05:42] <hendrixski> vox754, I was just relaying something I heard because I read a line you had posted... sorry if I took it out of context.. I was just trying to help
[05:42] <stefg> !raid | rustalot
[05:42] <ubotu> rustalot: Raid and LVM --> very easy guide for alternate CD : http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[05:42] <r__> dr_willis: Are you sure it's samba? Someone here gave me something before that put an icon on  the ubuntu desktop and was very easy to use
[05:42] <vox754> hendrixski, no problem... anyway he left, so no point in arguing now... gotta earn the money
[05:42] <yurimxpxman> an someone help me figure out how to download these videos? -> http://www.purevolume.com/videos/mxpx/sessions
[05:43] <james> i need a way to disable the "saving vesa state" when starting the live cd in 6.06 or 7. SOMEONE please help me!
[05:43] <MukiEX> katapult = win
[05:43] <r__> dr_willis: unless it doesn't work with vista?
[05:43] <dr_willis> r__,  as i said earlier you could use the 'smb://' feature of the file manager.
[05:43] <Abhi123> guys i have two machines in network... one is vista and other is ubuntu server.. when i access apt-get ... it gives E: Couldn't find package
[05:43] <dr_willis> r__,  that MIGHT let you get to your windows shares.. but it wont set up shares for windows to get to on your linux box.
[05:43] <Abhi123> apt-get for any package
[05:43] <r__> dr_willis: I'm a Linux newbie, Can you explain like I was 5?
[05:44] <kitche> Abhi123: well vista has nothing to do with it but how are you trying to apt-get the package?
[05:44] <retour> Hallo! I have a problem with LCD screen + Nvidia 8600 card with digital outputs. When good old CRT is connected to it through DVI/VGA adapter that came with this card everything is OK. When LCD panel is connected to it on VGA or Digital port I see nothing and only info NO SIGNAL (although) when LCD is connected through VGA cable at least I see BIOS POST and initial Ubuntu logo with orange bar under it - but after this part LCD
[05:44] <retour> signal info
[05:44] <Abhi123> kitche, yes
[05:44] <dr_willis> r__,  open up a file manager window.. type in smb:// in the address
[05:44] <dr_willis> or is it smb:/ (i forget)
[05:44] <Abhi123> i tried apt-get install sun-java5-jdk
[05:45] <Frogzoo> Ayarcy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet
[05:45] <AnaGonda> hi!
[05:45] <Abhi123> why is it giving E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-jdk
[05:45] <nesssy> can someone help me with anjuta build menu
[05:45] <Abhi123> what does "E:" mean?
[05:45] <nfi-admi1> is is possible to move from 7.04 desktop to 7.04 server without a fresh install?
[05:45] <kitche> Abhi123: Error
[05:45] <r__> dr_willis: no such file or directorry
[05:45] <dr_willis> nfi-admi1,  a server is just a lot of stuff removed
[05:45] <vox754> nesssy, no! no one will help you ha ha ha. Read the manual and check the forums.
[05:46] <Abhi123> ok
[05:46] <kitche> Abhi123: do you have all your repos enabled?
[05:46] <Abhi123> how can i do that, kitche
[05:46] <nfi-admi1> dr_willis -- sort of, server adds php and mysql and does remove a good many items
[05:46] <dr_willis> r__,  im not using gnome.. theres some gnome icons/remote places/menu stuff that lets you browse the Shared folders on the network.
[05:46] <pike__> nfi-admi1: yeah. just alt-ctrl-f2 then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop then sudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg  i guess. you wont have a gui though afterwards
[05:46] <Abhi123> kitche, how can i verify?
[05:46] <Ayarcy> Frogzoo: That looks _really_ useful.  Thanks!
[05:46] <nesssy> i used the man to install it... and im dead sure the answer for my problem isn't there vox
[05:46] <Frogzoo> Ayarcy: also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[05:46] <nesssy> cos i read it like an owl, jus to install it
[05:46] <kitche> Abhi123: look at /etc/apt/sources.list see if the repos don't have a # in front of it or use synaptic
[05:47] <stu-mc> afternoon, i want to start a daemon at startup, can i create a softlink from init.d to its location, then create a softlink form rc2.d to init.d for the file ?
[05:47] <nfi-admi1> @pike, why would I want to purge gdm?
[05:47] <dr_willis> stu-mc,  thats normally about how it works.
[05:47] <r__> dr_willis: what do I need to search out to find this? Shared folders Linux windows?
[05:47] <dr_willis> stu-mc,  with the proper name for the links.
[05:47] <pike__> nfi-admi1: i thought you were asking about the server install. the server install is basically just a stripped cli only desktop install
[05:47] <cosmic303> i still cant get any sound out of my tv card...any help?
[05:48] <nfi-admi1> doesn't server have LAMP basics as well?
[05:48] <dr_willis> r__,  im not using gnome at the moment. . the address to enter is similer to smb:/ or smb:// or somthing like that Id say start with the gnome  user guide to get the gnome fundamentals down.
[05:48] <luca> ciao...scusate, problemino con l'installazione di kubuntu 64bit qualcuno mi pu aiutare/some problems with kubuntu 64bit installation anyone can give  some help
[05:48] <Frogzoo> !es | luca
[05:48] <pike__> nfi-admi1: yeah but those packages are available anyway for you now
[05:48] <ubotu> luca: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:48] <Frogzoo> !it | luca
[05:48] <ubotu> luca: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:48] <Abhi123> kitche, it is enabled
[05:49] <dr_willis> r__,  or ya can alwyas look in the "GO" menu  - under Network. :)
[05:49] <rambo3> !Forza millan
[05:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about forza millan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:49] <luca> grazie a te vado
[05:49] <Ayarcy> Frogzoo: thx
[05:49] <nfi-admi1> @pike, thanks, you saved me some time, I will just add what I want and leave it as a desktop
[05:49] <r__> dr_willis: I installed GSAMBAD that's the same thing as SAMBA?
[05:49] <derenrich> anyone know if there is a mirror of security.ubuntu.com that is not god awfull slow atm
[05:49] <dr_willis> r__,  never hared of that.. i would guess No...     smb://mshome   is my home network.
[05:49] <dr_willis> !info gsambad
[05:49] <ubotu> gsambad: GTK+ configuration tool for samba. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.4-2 (feisty), package size 87 kB, installed size 336 kB
[05:49] <luca> join #ubuntu -it
[05:50] <r__> dr_willis: than it's not internal
[05:50] <luca> join #ubuntu-it
[05:50] <hendrixski> luca  try /join #ubuntu-it
[05:50] <dr_willis> r__,  Huh?
[05:51] <der0b> I have several cifs mounts defined in fstab, if I go ahead and mount them when I first log in, everything goes as expected.  if I attempt to mount some of them later I get resource temporarily unavailable.  the samba (w2k3) server is up, I can browse to the shares through gnome.  I just can't mount them.  anyone seen this?
[05:51] <Abhi123> kitche, anything else i have to do?
[05:51] <kitche> Abhi123: jusyt installt he packages now if you have all the repos enabled you should have atleast 3
[05:52] <anandanbu> I have installed phpmyadmin in ubuntu 7.04 and now whats the username and password to enter the phpmyadmin
[05:53] <r__> dr_willis: you said it was in the internal repos, no?
[05:53] <kitche> anachronik: have to make one
[05:53] <dr_willis> r__,  samba is in the normal repositories.
[05:53] <sunami> hi
[05:53] <dr_willis> !info samba
[05:53] <ubotu> samba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.24-2ubuntu1.2 (feisty), package size 3262 kB, installed size 7992 kB
[05:54] <dr_willis> r__,  In component main, is optional... its in the main repo.
[05:54] <sunami> can some one guide me to installing ubuntu without deleating my other partition
[05:54] <Abhi123> kitche, it was already commented when i tried earlier
[05:54] <switchcat> Q: when you install ubuntu 7.04 it gives you the option of transferring accounts (and I assume home directories) from other systems on the same computer.  How can you re-do that if you hook up a drive that wasn't hooked up when you first installed?
[05:54] <kitche> Abhi123: well the comment needs to be removed before the deb part
[05:54] <r__> dr_willis: Do you mean the add/remove in ubuntu?
[05:54] <fblade1987> hey can anyone tell me what the program is to make a termnial look like the quake command prompt, the one where  f12 brings it down?
[05:54] <sebaji>  join chanel #montevideolibre
[05:55] <dr_willis> r__,  thats just a front end to the package manager tools. same as if you used synaptic, or adept, or apt-get
[05:55] <mino> ako?
[05:55] <mino> slovak?
[05:55] <stu-mc> dr_willis: i have just tried creating a link from the dir to the init.d but it now fails to start, stating that it cant find certain files (seems to look at the currect dir not the one the link is to) i did this:  sudo ln -s /var/teamspeak/tss2_rc2/teamspeak2-server_startscript teamspeak
[05:55] <dr_willis> r__,  samba will let your Windows machines get to the LINUX machines shared directories
[05:55] <dr_willis> The NAMING of the script is imporntant i think.
[05:55] <r__> dr_willis: Okay so how do I get it? and how do I install it?
[05:55] <kitche> fblade1987: yeah hang on a sec just talked about it yesterday in another channel lol
[05:55] <evri2> Do anyone here play warcraft here?I wanna ask some questions.
[05:56] <evri2> warcraft III
[05:56] <fblade1987> thanks kitche
[05:56] <dr_willis> stu-mc,  you may just want to launch it from the rc.local script
[05:56] <rolfen> r__: applications->system->shared folders
[05:56] <dr_willis> r__,  i always just do a 'sudo apt-get install samba samba-doc'
[05:56] <sunami> can anyone guide me to installing ubuntu on 1 hdd with 2 partition
[05:56] <kitche> fblade1987: yakuake it's needs soem thigns from kde though
[05:56] <dr_willis> I also read the books included in 'samba-doc' every so often as a reminder. :)
[05:57] <estel> has kubuntu and ubuntu the same kernel on the install-cd and if - can you change it?
[05:57] <CaptainM> fblade1987, I believe there is a package called yakuake
[05:57] <sunami> can anyone guide me to installing ubuntu on 1 hdd with 2 partition
[05:57] <nesssy> come on guys... help this poor lass. after all i got as far as getting anjuta installed.
[05:57] <pike__> sunami: youll prob want a small partition for swap as well. so a default ubuntu is one partition for / and one small (around 1.5 times ram at most) swap
[05:58] <vox754> estel, they have the same, after the installation you try to install your own custom kernel.... and break things.
[05:58] <sunami> no
[05:58] <dr_willis> estel,  i always install ubuntu , then just apt-get install the kubuntu stuff.
[05:58] <sunami> pike
[05:58] <sunami> can i pm u>
[05:58] <sunami> pike: can i pm u
[05:58] <estel> but the install-kernel freezes, thats my problem
[05:58] <estel> i want to use my own kernel
[05:58] <pike__> sunami: sure im a little busy but ill respond when i can
[05:58] <vox754> estel, then build your own custom live cd with your kernel...
[05:59] <Abhi123> what does "deb-src http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ fiesty-updates main restricted" mean?
[05:59] <dr_willis> Abhi123,  thats a 'source' repository
[05:59] <dr_willis> !apt
[05:59] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:59] <Abhi123> what does "deb-src http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ fiesty main restricted" mean?
[05:59] <dr_willis>  Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto
[05:59] <Frogzoo> Abhi123: don't spam
[05:59] <Abhi123> dr_willis restricted mean??
[05:59] <stu-mc> dr_willis: ok ive added it to the rc.local (is there a way of testing it without restarting?)
[06:00] <dr_willis> restricted  - is the name of the exact repository.
[06:00] <rolfen> what is the best FTP client for linux?
[06:00] <dr_willis> !repo
[06:00] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:00] <dr_willis> rolfen,  depends on your needs.
[06:00] <rolfen> dr_willis: i want something fast and simple
[06:00] <dr_willis> rolfen,  ftp from the shell. :)
[06:00] <Abhi123> can any please give repository for java install? i think my repository isnot working
[06:00] <rolfen> dr_willis: haha, ... and fancy :)
[06:00] <dr_willis> rolfen,  the file managers support ftp:// addresses, or mc, or.....
[06:01] <dr_willis> rolfen,  so basicially you have NO idea what you need. :)
[06:01] <rolfen> dr_willis: i use thunar and XFCE :)
[06:01] <dr_willis> rolfen,   check the xfce docs/thunar docs and see if it supports ftp then
[06:01] <Ia1> Can someone help me with the following error please? E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[06:01] <Ia1> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[06:01] <dr_willis> if not - install a ftp client or 34 till ya find one ya like. :)(
[06:01] <ibt> if you want multiple environments xfce/kde/gnome, should one install multiple {x,k,}ubuntu-desktop meta packages?
[06:02] <vox754> ibt, yes
[06:02] <Skrypt> How do I make certain programs start up with the computer is started?
[06:02] <rolfen> dr_willis: it doesnt... okay... i will :) just wanted to see if anyone could recommend me one
[06:02] <rolfen> I mostly want something fancy that looks good
[06:02] <dr_willis> rolfen,  dont expect the windows-mentality of where 'cuteftp' rules all.. :)  linux users often have very specific needs that they want things to do.
[06:02] <dr_willis> rolfen,  fire up the package manager, search for 'ftp'  start installing.
[06:03] <rolfen> dr_willis: true... i use filezilla under windows BTW
[06:03] <ibt> vox754: any idea where i can find information on disabling the 'kubuntu' bootsplash looking screens?
[06:03] <Skrypt> roflen, gnome is pretty sweet looking. Though I'm having a hard time with xcompmgr on the AMD64.
[06:03] <Skrypt> oh, wait. nevermind.
[06:03] <Skrypt> you want an FTP client. :D
[06:03] <Skrypt> <3
[06:03] <tego> hi rolfen  from system >admini>servises
[06:03] <vox754> ibt, no sorry. You may need to tinker usplash and things
[06:03] <RoundyT1> where can i find the grub menu?
[06:03] <RoundyT1> /etc/grub?
[06:04] <pike__> sunami: did you have a question?
[06:04] <dr_willis> - /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:04] <sunami> yes
[06:04] <sunami> pike: i pmed you
[06:04] <sunami> can you check it
[06:04] <rolfen> tego: what's that?
[06:04] <rolfen> !xcompmgr
[06:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xcompmgr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:05] <tego> sorry
[06:05] <pike__> sunami: might be best to keep it in the channel
[06:05] <W9ZEB> is there a reason why the performance of my USB keyboard would go to hell randomly while running Fiesty?
[06:05] <rolfen> Skrypt: thanks anyway :D
[06:05] <Skrypt> How can I make the terminal transparent?
[06:06] <Skrypt> !xcompmgr
[06:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xcompmgr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:06] <W9ZEB> IE,  it works fine for a long time, and then it goes into super slow mo.  missing typed characters etc.
[06:06] <CaptainM> Skrypt, edit - profiles
[06:07] <Skrypt> Captain, doesn't exist.
[06:07] <Skrypt> I have profiles, no preferences.
[06:07] <W9ZEB> strange.  the keyboard built into the notebook works fine.
[06:07] <W9ZEB> the one plugged into the USB port SUCKS at the moment.
[06:07] <CaptainM> Skrypt, what do you mean? you can edit the profiles right?
[06:07] <W9ZEB> USB mouse is also in super slow mo.
[06:08] <Skrypt> CaptainM: ... fark me running. :-[ Thanks!
[06:08] <rolfen> W9ZEB: are apps slow to launch?
[06:08] <CaptainM> Skrypt, ;D
[06:08] <W9ZEB> rolfen: not apps....
[06:08] <scrav> hi! got a problem on my pb laptop. reading a guide but i need some manegement :S! replace the original "patch_realtek.c" file in alsa-kernel/pci/hd that i have done
[06:08] <scrav> Then recompile ALSA and load the module with option model=pbv7900 . dont know what this means
[06:08] <W9ZEB> rolfen: mouse and keyboard performance randomly goes to hell in a handbasket
[06:09] <W9ZEB> rolfen: ie, I type around 80wpm,  the keyboard was working fine, and now can't handle more than about 20wpm without dropping characters
[06:09] <rolfen> W9ZEB: but the laptop keyboard keeps working well?
[06:09] <W9ZEB> rolfen: yes,  the laptop built in keyboard, and touchpad work 100%
[06:09] <rolfen> W9ZEB: weird
[06:10] <W9ZEB> rolfen: I don't imagine the noapic nolapic I issued as a kernel perm. at boot time should cause that.
[06:10] <gordonjcp> daft question time - how do I disable the bloody annoying popup "OMG LOL YOU INSERTED A PHOTO CARD" every time I mount an SD card with photos on it?
[06:10] <joe-f> i just erased an important file.. any ideas on how i can get it back?
[06:10] <joe-f> more like a folder
[06:10] <gordonjcp> joe-f: depends how you erased it
[06:11] <rolfen> W9ZEB: I dont think so... but i'm rather newbie here...
[06:11] <benjamindees> scrav, I imagine you'd do something like 'modprobe <module> model=pbv7900'
[06:11] <joe-f> im pretty sure it was just a rm -rf (over ssh)
[06:11] <W9ZEB> anyone have any ideas about my USB Keyboard/mouse?
[06:11] <gordonjcp> joe-f: it's gone
[06:11] <joe-f> nothing else has been written to my hd
[06:11] <megatill> hi works ubuntu 7.04 on this? -> 256 MB RAM 600MHz   i think not
[06:11] <joe-f> gordonjcp: .. :(
[06:11] <rolfen> W9ZEB: is the mouse USB? what if you unplug the mouse does the keyboard get faster? or the other way round?...
[06:11] <joe-f> its not like windows i guess..
[06:11] <gordonjcp> joe-f: because of the way that ext2/ext3 works, there isn't really a way to undelete files
[06:11] <rolfen> W9ZEB: I dont know... that's what I'd had tried myself
[06:12] <W9ZEB> rolfen: the mouse is also usb, and no.  :(
[06:12] <joe-f> gordonjcp: yeah, thats what i thought..  i know it indexes much differently
[06:12] <gordonjcp> joe-f: well, there isn't really a good undelete in NTFS either, hence the recycle bin
[06:12] <travisgriggs> i'm dl'ing ubuntu 6.06 right now... am i going to be able to get this working running under VPC 2007?
[06:12] <rolfen> W9ZEB: so must be something with the USB driver...
[06:12] <joe-f> gordonjcp: ya.. alright thx
[06:12] <gordonjcp> joe-f: we should be using FILES-11 like on VMS ;-)
[06:12] <W9ZEB> rolfen: that's likely.
[06:12] <W9ZEB> rolfen: nVidia nForce controller.
[06:12] <kitche> joe-f: only way to get that file back is to use a forensic program or to extract it yourself if you knw what your looking for
[06:12] <W9ZEB> the 430 +geForce 6150 combo.
[06:13] <loca|host> hello all
[06:13] <W9ZEB> is there a way to reset all usb devices, plus the controller?>
[06:13] <Mikeh> I have a Quickcam chat webcam using the logitech webcam drivers from sourceforge, it never turns off?
[06:13] <Mikeh> I have a Quickcam chat webcam using the logitech webcam drivers from sourceforge, it never turns off? Any way to change that?
[06:14] <loca|host> When i delete som files from an usb stick, files deleted get moved to a .Trash folder on the usb stick, i need to know how to get that trash on my desktop and nothing on the stick
[06:14] <dr_willis> loca|host,  use shift-delete  or right click and delete,
[06:14] <dr_willis> ive noticed that also :)  a bit of an annoyance
[06:15] <dr_willis> Not sure how ya can make it move trash from the stick to the desktops trash
[06:15] <benjamindees> megatill, sure, perhaps slowly
[06:15] <megatill> thx benjamindees :)
[06:15] <CarmenSandiego> ".trash" and ".trash-Carmen" keep getting put in the root directory of my partitions. They're usually empty, but when they're not I find they've got files in them I thought were deleted. Aside from anything else, this means files I thought were gone are still taking up space. How do I stop ubuntu doing this?
[06:17] <vox754> CarmenSandiego, I think files you "delete" always go to the trash, unless you use the "rm" command. I think in nautilus there is an option to override the trash step, and delete them permanently.
[06:17] <dr_willis> CarmenSandiego,   you using the filemanager as root ?
[06:17] <W9ZEB> well rebooting fixes the keyboard performance.
[06:18] <CaptainM> CarmenSandiego, vox754, shift - delete?
[06:18] <rolfen> damn... W9ZEB is gone I had found a fix for him :(
[06:18] <W9ZEB> rolfen: I'm here
[06:18] <rolfen> oh cool
[06:18] <W9ZEB> rolfen: what was the fix
[06:18] <rolfen> i found something
[06:18] <BillyBeans> Hey how to i make a custom message for users when they ssh into my ubuntu box??
[06:18] <rolfen> W9ZEB: try this: sudo modprobe -r ohci_hcd ; sudo modprobe ohci_hcd no_handshake=1
[06:18] <W9ZEB> BillyBeans: um...  /etc/motd  or /etc/nmotd iirc
[06:19] <kitche> BillyBeans: /etc/issue
[06:19] <W9ZEB> rolfen: I added that to a NOTES file for the next time it happens
[06:19] <W9ZEB> rolfen: I rebooted and that resolved it, at least temporarily
[06:19] <rolfen> W9ZEB: okay
[06:19] <BillyBeans> kitche what do u mean?
[06:20] <ariel_> #ubuntu-es
[06:20] <CarmenSandiego> I've found the option in nautilus to put 'delete' in the drop menu, that should do it. Funnily enough, I was shift-deleting all the stuff that went in those trash folders... shift-deleting never did well for me
[06:20] <chump> hey guys i'm having a little issue with cups it asks me for a password and i type in my admin login and password
[06:20] <chump> and yet it just kicks me out
[06:20] <BillyBeans> kitche i dont have that dir
[06:20] <kitche> W9ZEB: BillyBeans well when the system reboots the /etc/motd gets overwritten really /etc/issue is the file you want really it does the same thing at /etc/motd but stays
[06:20] <BillyBeans> W9ZEB i dont have either of those directories
[06:21] <W9ZEB> BillyBeans: you certainly do have a /etc directory
[06:21] <BillyBeans> i know
[06:21] <W9ZEB> BillyBeans: and the file you want to edit is /etc/issue
[06:21] <BillyBeans> i dont have an issue dir
[06:21] <W9ZEB> it's not a directory, it's a file
[06:21] <kitche> BillyBeans: they are not directories they are files
[06:21] <W9ZEB> kitche: good call on /etc/issue  It's been a long time since I edited a motd file :)
[06:22] <W9ZEB> kitche: I'm sure "man motd" would have told me that.
[06:22] <BillyBeans> kitche u there
[06:23] <kitche> BillyBeans: yes waiting for my dvd to authorize but yes
[06:23] <BillyBeans> this is whats in my etc\issue   Ubuntu 7.04 \n \l
[06:23] <retour> Hallo! I have a problem with LCD screen + Nvidia 8600 card with digital outputs. When good old CRT is connected to it through DVI/VGA adapter that came with this card everything is OK. When LCD panel is connected to it on VGA or Digital port I see nothing and only info NO SIGNAL (although) when LCD is connected through VGA cable at least I see BIOS POST and initial Ubuntu logo with orange bar under it - but after this part LCD
[06:23] <retour> signal info
[06:23] <BillyBeans> now should i just put custom msg in there?
[06:23] <Abhi123> has anybody installed jboss on ubuntu?
[06:23] <kitche> BillyBeans: yes usually you can erase what's in /etc/motd also but it gets renewed on each bootup
[06:24] <BillyBeans> how do i make it so that everytime someone ssh in, the msg will appear?
[06:24] <der0b> I have several cifs mounts defined in fstab, if I go ahead and mount them when I first log in, everything goes as expected.  if I attempt to mount some of them later I get a resource temporarily unavailable error.  the samba (w2k3) server is up, (I can browse to the shares using gnome_.  I just can't mount them.  anyone seen this?
[06:24] <Skrypt> How do I get programs to start up with the computer?
[06:25] <switchcat> Q: does anybody here know much about the install process procedure? there are some things that get configured at that point that I'd like to re-do.
[06:25] <kitche> BillyBeans: it should do it automatically
[06:25] <Mikeh> Skrypt, go to system > preferences > sessions
[06:25] <BillyBeans> i mean how do i get it to stick, should i edit issue or the modt ?
[06:25] <BillyBeans> stick on reboot?
[06:25] <kitche> BillyBeans: /etc/issue will stay
[06:25] <vox754> !startup | Skrypt
[06:25] <ubotu> Skrypt: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[06:26] <BillyBeans> kitche: the issue file will overide the modt file?
[06:26] <Abhi123> has anybody installed jboss on ubuntu?
[06:26] <Skrypt> ty <3
[06:26] <kitche> BillyBeans: it should but you can always find out :)
[06:26] <Skrypt> Anyone here familiar with xcompmgr or know if it has issues with AMD64?
[06:27] <Abhi123> `Kevin`, have you tried installing jboss on ubuntu?
[06:27] <Abhi123> kitche, what about you?
[06:27] <Mr_Sonoma>  /join #kubuntu
[06:28] <c|ph3r> i have a problem with murrine engine under feisty, it doesn't use murrine window border, it doesn't show up in the list either
[06:28] <yuck> how do i make a keyboard hotkey to bring up the system monitor?
[06:30] <kitche> Abhi123: never used Jboss
[06:30] <rolfen> yuck: do you have settings->keyboard ?
[06:30] <leku> hey
[06:30] <leku> anyone know when debian/ubuntu will be leveraging some of the new wireless support in the latest 2.6.22 Linux kernel?
[06:31] <tatersalad> I'd guess maybe when gutsy comes out
[06:31] <leku> ah ok
[06:31] <leku> !gutsy
[06:31] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[06:31] <tatersalad> dont quote me on that tho
[06:31] <leku> k
[06:32] <yuck> rolfen: i tried, but it only lets me select certain commands. I want to press like f12 and have the window selector thing come up.
[06:33] <Abhi123> guys how can i get jboss for ubuntu?
[06:33] <dr_willis> !jboss
[06:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jboss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:33] <Abhi123> !tomcat
[06:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tomcat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:33] <Mikeh> !jboss | Abhi123
[06:33] <Seijiro_> yuck: check out this: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/assign-custom-shortcut-keys-on-ubuntu-linux/
[06:33] <mopey> BillyBeans, /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[06:33] <yuck> seijiro: thanks.
[06:33] <Abhi123> guys ubuntu wont support java application servers??
[06:34] <gnychis> does anyone know the package name to install the Tk libraries?
[06:34] <Seijiro_> np
[06:35] <CarmenSandiego> OK, does anybody use Rhythmbox music player? Is there a way to set it so that when minimised, it doesn't sit on the bottom bar but instead you've just got the system tray icon? (you know what I mean by system tray)
[06:35] <mopey> BillyBeans, that's what overwrites motd, doing stuff to /etc/issue won't do anything.
[06:35] <Danny9> hi
[06:35] <yuck> seijiro: whats that called when i click on the top right of the ubuntu desktop? the windows do that osx thing.
[06:35] <Danny9> im new here
[06:35] <Danny9> hello
[06:35] <yuck> danny9: hi
[06:36] <Abhi123> guys it is high time ubuntu should support jboss
[06:36] <Seijiro_> yuck: osx thing? can you elaborate? I have power button in top right of my theme
[06:36] <BadRobot> hi i need help to fix a broken system.Does anyone knows if there is a ubuntu disk rescue
[06:36] <BadRobot> ???
[06:37] <yuck> seijiro: it makes all the open windows go side-by-side and you can select which one you want on top.
[06:37] <finalbeta> BadRobot: The Ubuntu CD.
[06:37] <Danny9> THIS CHAT IS FOR HPV
[06:37] <Danny9> RIGHT
[06:37] <Danny9> ?
[06:37] <finalbeta> Probably not.
[06:37] <BadRobot> no it doesn't have it
[06:37] <Seijiro_> yuck: oh it must be a beryl command
[06:37] <BadRobot> i have tried it alredy
[06:37] <yuck> seijiro: how do i bing that to a key?
[06:37] <yuck> seijiro: *bind
[06:37] <Danny9> NEED
[06:37] <BadRobot> @ list on my liveCD
[06:37] <Danny9> HELP
[06:38] <Danny9> NEED TO KNOW IF THIS CHAT IS FOR HVP
[06:38] <astro76> stop shouting
[06:38] <Abhi123> is there any way i can access a website from ubuntu server?
[06:38] <astro76> what is hvp?
[06:38] <enviouz> whats the equivilent of ipconfig/all?
[06:38] <Danny9> OK
[06:38] <Danny9> IS OK
[06:38] <Seijiro_> yuck: i'm not sure but if it's something you can do in a terminal then its possible to bind it
[06:38] <yuck> danny9: why would a channel called "ubuntu" be for hpv?
[06:38] <Danny9> NO PROBLEM
[06:38] <Danny9> WELL
[06:38] <rolfen> enviouz: ifconfig
[06:38] <Danny9> DO
[06:38] <kitche> !caps | Danny9
[06:38] <ubotu> Danny9: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[06:38] <kitche> !enter | Danny9
[06:38] <ubotu> Danny9: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:38] <Danny9> I WAS LOOKING FOR SOMETHING ELSE
[06:38] <Danny9> AND I DONT HAVE IDEA WHAT THAT HELL IS ABUL
[06:38] <finalbeta> BadRobot: We need more proper info, what's wrong, what did you try to do.
[06:38] <enviouz> rolfen:  ty ill try that
[06:38] <Danny9> HAHAHAHAHA
[06:38] <switchcat> No, this chat is not about Human Pampillona Virus.
[06:39] <Danny9> LOL
[06:39] <yuck> seijiro_: what would you call that? google doesn't like my human-speak.
[06:39] <Danny9> THANKS
[06:39] <finalbeta> Danny9: learn to type without caps.
[06:39] <Danny9> THAT WHAT A NEED TO KNOW
[06:39] <Seijiro_> yuck: lemme see if i can find out, 1 second
[06:39] <dimas__> hello i need to remove a file using the terminal in root...(libflashplayer.so) whats the command to delete this?
[06:39] <darwin81> Is it normal for a partition to automatically have some space filled up when I create it?
[06:40] <yuck> dimas__: do "sudo nautilus" and you can visually delete it. its easier than the terminal
[06:40] <astro76> dimas__, sudo rm
[06:40] <kitche> darwin81: yes 5% actually is for root
[06:40] <wonka_> heello
[06:40] <wonka_> I am a new blind user on ubunt 7.04
[06:40] <dimas__> thank you guys!!!
[06:40] <enviouz> broadcast address is the same as default gateway correct?
[06:40] <rolfen> hello wonka_
[06:41] <wonka_> becaus I can't configure orca yet, I would like to start ubuntu by default withoux x
[06:41] <Seijiro_> yuck: take a look at this: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php?title=Tips/DBUS_Howto&oldid=7017
[06:41] <dimas__> what about hot to delete the whole flash player program to reinstall it ( i would like to use the terminal)
[06:41] <finalbeta> darwin81: Yes, i'ts the partition table, some sort of non visible table that jeeps a record of the files.
[06:42] <finalbeta> keeps*
[06:42] <Dante123> o thanks
[06:42] <andre89> hi
[06:42] <Dante123> Hello
[06:42] <wonka_> I can't find /etc/inittab or some toher file where you can specify this
[06:43] <wonka_> hi andre89
[06:43] <BadRobot> no it just hungs on the starp up
[06:43] <darwin81> kitche: no I mean I took free space on a hard drive and made an empty ext3 partition with gParted
[06:43] <BadRobot> start up
[06:43] <belgatom> quit
[06:43] <kitche> darwin81: yes 5% of partitons is used for the user root
[06:44] <finalbeta> BadRobot: start up... Where?... do cntr-F1 when It's booting and watch the output on the terminal.
[06:44] <zphinx> for some reason my /etc/apache2/httpd.conf just turned up empty now, any clue to why? im trying to install egroupware.
[06:44] <rolfen> wonka_ I dont have no inittab on my system either
[06:44] <wonka_> can soemone give a way to handles runlevels in ubuntu?
[06:44] <finalbeta> !runlevels
[06:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about runlevels - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:45] <finalbeta> !runlevel
[06:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about runlevel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:45] <finalbeta> bah.
[06:45] <wonka_> rolfen: ok but what is the alternavie?
[06:45] <yuck> Seijiro_: im confused about beryl and compiz. which one do i have if i just installed "desktop effects"
[06:45] <wonka_> ok thx
[06:45] <finalbeta> yuck: compiz
[06:46] <dimas__> guys!!! i want to remove the whole flash player from the system cause i having problem with it and re-install it again later but i would like to know how i remove it from the terminal but i dont know where is the file...is someone able to help me?
[06:46] <gilo2> Is there a good command line torrent application I could install?
[06:46] <yuck> finalbeta: ok so when i click at the top right of my screen, it pulls all the windows to the center. what is that called and how can i bind it to a key
[06:46] <stefg> wonka_: ubuntu uses upstart now, so there is no more inittab. You will have to disable gdm to have console only. By which means are you using your box? Telling you in which menu to find the control applet is pretty useless for you, i thonk
[06:47] <rolfen> wonka_ i think you have to disable some service
[06:47] <rolfen> wonka_: maybe x11-common... but i'm not sure
[06:47] <rolfen> wonka_ you know how to disable services?
[06:47] <finalbeta> yuck: that's not in there as far as I know, that's one of the beryl plugins.
[06:47] <finalbeta> !desktop-effects
[06:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about desktop-effects - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:48] <blind> !beryl
[06:48] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:48] <wonka_> rolfen: not exactly , I am new in ubuntu
[06:48] <yuck> finalbeta: but i didnt think i installed beryl. i thought it was just compiz.
[06:48] <kitche> dimas__: if you used a package just uninstall the package if not just rm it it's most likely in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[06:48] <compilerwriter> Now I am in a fix.  I evidently set a password on my DI-524 router and can't remember what it was way back when.
[06:48] <rolfen> wonka_ ok stefg said you have to disable gdm
[06:49] <rolfen> what was it again... chkconf... ?
[06:49] <gilo2> compilerwriter you will have to blow away your config but you can reset it back to original factory config.  go search the dlink site on how to do it.
[06:49] <gilo2> !torrent
[06:49] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt), rTorrent (C++) -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[06:50] <stu-mc> ok, im writing a basic script to access a daemon, i want to be able to send a prarmiter to it so the script i have called ts, i want to be able to type 'ts status' to get the status of the daemon, within the script i have tried %1 and this did not work, what attribute should i use to access the varible ?
[06:50] <compilerwriter> I know I am trying to figure out a way past blowing my configs settings away.
[06:50] <dimas__> kitche i did rm the file already from that directory but i have to delete another one that i dont know where it is so thats why i would like to uninstall the whole package
[06:50] <rolfen> wonka_ on linux I usually use chkconfig but i cant find it under ubuntu....
[06:51] <savetheWorld> stu-mc: command line parameters are accessed as $1 $2 $3   etc.. in bash scripts.  please see the #bash channel for experts in this area. :-)
[06:51] <stefg> wonka_: sudo update-rc.d gdm remove
[06:51] <dimas__> kitche the file name is flashplayer.xpt
[06:51] <kitche> dimas__: it's in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins same spot as the .so
[06:51] <craigbass1976> I'm trying to get apache2 running.  /etc/init.d/apache2 start doesn't seem to do it.
[06:52] <dimas__> kitche no
[06:52] <BadRobot> so,anyone there have any glues?
[06:52] <Enyo> any raid experts here?
[06:52] <craigbass1976> I thought /usr/bin/apachectl start might, but that's starting regular apache
[06:52] <kitche> dimas__: it should be
[06:52] <floppyx> can someone speak german?
[06:52] <stu-mc> savetheworld: thanks
[06:52] <stefg> !raid | Enyo
[06:52] <ubotu> Enyo: Raid and LVM --> very easy guide for alternate CD : http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[06:52] <rolfen> floppyx ein bischen
[06:52] <craigbass1976> Enyo, I used to steal pumpkins before halloween, but that's the only raiding I've ever done
[06:52] <stefg> !de | floppyx
[06:52] <ubotu> floppyx: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:52] <Enyo> not "guides"
[06:53] <floppyx> thank you
[06:53] <dimas__> kitche flashplayer.so was but not the .xpt
[06:53] <Seijiro_> craigbass1976: #apache2
[06:53] <wonka_> aha ok
[06:53] <wonka_> thx
[06:53] <Enyo> stefg do you know much about raid5?
[06:53] <dimas__> kitche anf i am falloinw instruction from adove webpage
[06:54] <savetheWorld> np :-)
[06:55] <Enyo> i have a raid 5 array that got desyncronised by a psu failure and 4 disks got marked as failed.. but it is possible to recover the raid 5 beacuse no data has been lost.. anyone know how?
[06:55] <compilerwriter> gilo2 I finally remembered it.  Thank Heavens
[06:55] <stefg> Enyo: man mdadm
[06:56] <Enyo> i would't be here if i hadn't been through the man pages
[06:57] <DeViLs> what use for open .rar in ubuntu?
[06:57] <misty> Does anyone have advice on the "Too many file descriptors" bugs in cupsys in Feisty and Gutsy?
[06:58] <evri2> devils: search for package called unrar
[06:58] <misty> I have been pulling my hair out over this.  I updated to Gutsy's version to see if it fixed the problem, but no.  I increased the number of max file descriptors, I increased the soft limit for 'cupsys' user, everything I could think of
[06:58] <misty> I have to restart cupsys every couple hours
[06:58] <stefg> Enyo: so what's the problem? mdadm -A , maybe force a 'lil bit and it should work again
[06:59] <craigbass1976> Is there a way in the command line to make sure things don't start up at boot without having to go through all the /etc/rc things?  Something like RedHat's chkconfig blahblah off ?
[06:59] <likmout> need some help ...getting an error saying "unable to view Clamavs' information file    do not appear to have virus definitions...any help!
[06:59] <vox754> misty, what is that? cupsys?
[06:59] <grim76> likmout: Try running freshclam.
[06:59] <rolfen> craigbass1976: man update-rc.d
[07:00] <ilikec0ws> DeViLs You can use the intergrated file roller, or the unrar command
[07:00] <misty> yes vox754 it's the printing daemon
[07:00] <likmout> tried to run freshclam in terminal but no go
[07:00] <grim76> likmout: hang on let me see what the syntax is.
[07:00] <vox754> misty, and when does the error occur?
[07:00] <misty> this is the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cupsys/+bug/112803
[07:00] <herbaliser> hi i there site survey software for linux available like Airmagnet?
[07:00] <misty> vox754: randomly
[07:01] <grim76> likmout: should be sudo freshclam  that should update your defs.
[07:01] <BadRobot> i've run out of ideas
[07:01] <likmout> ok let me give it a try
[07:01] <BadRobot> i don't know how to fix my box
[07:01] <herbaliser> hi i there site survey software for linux available like Airmagnet?
[07:02] <BadRobot> www.distrowatch.com
[07:02] <BadRobot> herbliser
[07:03] <BadRobot> i think you can find anything you want about distros
[07:03] <vox754> misty, mmm... bad luck eh? Talking about printers, which do you recommend? I think HP and Epson are good, but Lexmark for instance is to be avoided.
[07:03] <misty> mostly I recommend laser printers in general
[07:03] <misty> inkjets are a waste of $$
[07:04] <misty> how do I use apt-get to see my version of a package?
[07:04] <switchcat> hmmm okay I have an Audigy 2 ZS which seems to have been recognized by the system.  this is a new 7.04 install, I'm currently running a video but getting no sound and have only just hooked up the speakers for the first time.  Does anybody have any suggestions for testing the system or otherwise diagnosing it?  I am hearing nothing.
[07:04] <Arch-away> hello, i have an argus digital camera, ubuntu detects the cam, but it claims it can not "claim the usb device". does usb have permissions, and if so,m where can i change those at ?
[07:05] <Slart> switchcat: I would try playing something simple.. like a wav file or something
[07:05] <there> stawchict: I would try pinalyg somethnig smilpe.. like a wav flie or smehinotg
[07:05] <Slart> switchcat: then checking the cables.. checking all the volume-thingies
[07:05] <likmout> grim76 u still there
[07:05] <evri2> Guys.With Nvidia Geforce 7200 go, should i use nvidia-new or nvidia(normal ones) driver?
[07:05] <grim76> likmout: yeah I am here
[07:06] <BadRobot> play ogg .It is better Slart
[07:06] <DBO> evri2, you should be able to get away with the normal drivers
[07:06] <likmout> ok seem as if i got that one solved
[07:06] <toed> what's the difference between the "alternative international" and the "international (with dead keys)" keyboard layouts?
[07:06] <PriceChild> misty, apt-cache policy package-name
[07:06] <likmout> but have another for ya
[07:06] <Slart> BadRobot: of course =) I apologize
[07:06] <evri2> i installed new drivers for some reason.I think i couldn't start Gnome with normal drivers.
[07:06] <misty> thanks PriceChild
[07:07] <BadRobot> you don't have to brother
[07:07] <likmout> trying to update and getting tis error E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[07:07] <Slart> toed: might be something with the enter-key.. some keyboards have a larger one.. some have a smaller one.. or it might be the windows keys
[07:07] <ilikec0ws> evri2: I run a 6600 on the newest drivers so you should be fine
[07:07] <toed> Slart: only one way to find out, I guess
[07:07] <kent> is there an easy-to-use program to create video-dvds  from an avi-file?  I tried the program devede  in ubuntu but the sound gets scrambled all the time.. :(
[07:07] <evri2> ilikec0ws u run nvidia-new?
[07:07] <grim76> likmout: did you try running that command?
[07:08] <Slart> toed: I don't think you'll get crippled if you chose the wrong one.. probably just some special keys not working
[07:08] <peacho> Hi. Can anyone please point out some good fonts for Ubuntu that look like Windows fonts (Arial, Tahoma, etc.)?
[07:08] <likmout> yes in the run command mode
[07:08] <ilikec0ws> evri2: Well have done on another distro yes :)
[07:08] <Slart> peacho: there is a windows font package
[07:08] <peacho> What is it?
[07:08] <ilikec0ws> evri2: When I ran ubuntu i just let the restricted drivers manager do its work
[07:08] <Slart> !fonts
[07:08] <stefg> peacho: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[07:08] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[07:08] <switchcat> slart - hmmm yeah good idea.  my friends bands page plays music. that seems to work.  so now I gotta diagnose why this avi file isnt outputting sound
[07:08] <peacho> oh
[07:08] <peacho> that was my problem
[07:08] <peacho> I was just using mscorefonts
[07:09] <Arch-away> how do you claim the usb ports with ubuntu edgy ?
[07:09] <peacho> Thanks.
[07:09] <herbaliser> Badrobot tnx
[07:09] <Slart> switchcat: I would try with vlc player first.. it seems to be the easiest to get going.. if that works you can go hammer on the other players to see why they don't work
[07:09] <stefg> Arch-away: i think this is a driver problem, not a permission problem
[07:10] <Arch-away> edgy detects the cam, says it 's a permissions error
[07:10] <toed> Slart: er, once I've added it in the layout list how do I switch to it?
[07:10] <Slart> toed: hmm..let me check here.. what are you running? gnome?
[07:10] <toed> yeah
[07:11] <stefg> Arch-away: your user needs to be member of group plugdev (but that's the default)
[07:11] <Slart> toed: hmm.. I have no idea really.. try making it the default perhaps?
[07:11] <Slart> toed: perhaps removing any other layouts?
[07:11] <doublehp> after dist-upgrade to dapper, sound is broken: "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device" (only sound is broken; lspci shows hardware) (there seem to be a problem with udev: "ls /dev |grep hd |wc -l" => 168
[07:12] <toed> well ideally I'd be able to switch between them :/
[07:12] <doublehp> any clue ?
[07:12] <davidspart_> hello is the right place to ask for help?
[07:12] <Slart> toed: ah.. there is a keyboard layout indicator applet
[07:12] <Pici> davidspart_: yes. ask away
[07:12] <doublehp> davidspart_: /topic first
[07:12] <toed> Slart: ah great
[07:12] <chump> hey guys i'm having issues adding a printer in cups with ubuntu server because of the root password deal any one know of another way to add the printer?
[07:12] <Slart> toed: from the help file... "To switch between keyboard layouts, use the Keyboard Indicator panel applet."
[07:12] <toed> Slart: thanks
[07:13] <phaidros7> chump: you could try it using the gnome-cups-add dialog
[07:13] <chump> thanks phaidros7 i'lll read into it
[07:13] <phaidros7> (or was it gnome-printer-add?)
[07:14] <chump> it looks like i'm getting hits with the firstone
[07:14] <davidspart_> pici doublehp: well basically, my ubuntu install can no longer connect to my wireless network. i've tried running from the latest LIVE cd iso and it has the same problem. the system can detect that the wireless is there, as it knows when the name changes, but it cant get an ip address or any other ninformation. i also think it gets stuck on validating the security key, as when i add or...
[07:14] <cheesesticks101> pici doblhuep: wlel bsaliacly, my uutnbu iltsanl can no lgeonr ceoncnt to my wlierses nowtrek. i've tried runinng form the ltesat LVIE cd iso and it has the smae pobelrm. the sytsem can dtceet taht the wsielres is terhe, as it konws when the nmae ceahgns, but it cant get an ip asdedrs or any ohetr nriintofoman. i also tihnk it gtes scutk on vtiaainldg the sctuiery key, as wehn i add or...
[07:14] <davidspart_> ...remove a security key it doesnt realise until i restart. ideas?
[07:14] <cheesesticks101> ...roevme a striucey key it desont rlsaeie uintl i resartt. ideas
[07:14] <dfgas> how safe is writing on ntfs?
[07:14] <cheesesticks101> how safe is winritg on nfts?
[07:14] <dfgas> writing
[07:14] <cheesesticks101> wiinrtg
[07:15] <yuck> im having trouble with the "Beryl Settings Manager." I triend to turn on rain but it doesnt work. why?
[07:15] <cheesesticks101> im hnaivg trbuole with the "Byrel Sitentgs Maengar." I tiernd to trun on rian but it densot work. why?
[07:15] <Pici> !ops | cheesesticks101
[07:15] <cheesesticks101> !ops | ciethssceeks
[07:15] <raf256> cheesesticks101: fix your keyboard
[07:15] <cheesesticks101> cestecsiehks101: fix yuor kraybeod
[07:15] <ubotu> cheesesticks101: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[07:15] <cheesesticks101> chsseckeetis101: Help! Mez, LjL, enktbluu, imoardnbn, DBO, gfeoemrank, Hsbeobe, rob, ouampl, Mldpoait, Bduvgruaina, Seaevs, CrlaK, cmuisrn, acjtimh, triiutm, Naoilth, trauuoithpec, aoprkohyps, tsyuysronao, PlCichired, Aamrnath, jirb, jenda, nietrxanl, Mrttyi or meotnpk
[07:15] <dfgas> wtf
[07:15] <cheesesticks101> wtf
[07:15] <ubotu> ciethssceeks: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[07:15] <cheesesticks101> ceeieshtcsks: Help! Mez, LjL, eblukntu, idmobnran, DBO, gafeonrmek, Hbosebe, rob, ouapml, Maildpot, Bruindagvua, Seeavs, ClarK, csmriun, ajmtich, tiiurtm, Ntoliah, trtihupeaouc, ahpoprkyos, tnoauyyssro, PircleiChd, Anraamth, jrib, jedna, ntrixneal, Mrytti or mntpeok
[07:15] <davidspart_> cheesesticks = bot
[07:15] <cheesesticks101> ctecehsesiks = bot
[07:15] <BadRobot> help!BadRobot
[07:15] <cheesesticks101> help!BRdooabt
[07:15] <raf256> !ops cheesesticks101 mass spamming
[07:15] <cheesesticks101> !ops ceeikshscets101 mass sinpammg
[07:16] <davidspart_> l/eave
[07:16] <cheesesticks101> l/eave
[07:16] <davidspart_> l/eave
[07:16] <cheesesticks101> l/evae
[07:16] <zolar> Does any one know how to backup the contact list in evolution....?
[07:16] <cheesesticks101> Does any one know how to bkaucp the ctnaoct list in elituovon....?
[07:16] <BadRobot> l/eave
[07:16] <cheesesticks101> l/evae
[07:16] <raf256> pa/rt
[07:16] <cheesesticks101> pa/rt
[07:16] <misty> does Till Kamppeter come here?
[07:16] <cheesesticks101> does Tlil Keppeamtr come hree?
[07:16] <Pici> Just ignore it until an op gets here.
[07:16] <BadRobot> pa/rt
[07:16] <cheesesticks101> Jsut ionrge it utinl an op gets hree.
[07:16] <davidspart_> pici do you have any ideas
[07:16] <cheesesticks101> pa/rt
[07:16] <yuck> im having trouble with the "Beryl Settings Manager." I triend to turn on rain but it doesnt work. why?
[07:16] <cheesesticks101> pici do you hvae any iedas
[07:16] <raf256> type: /ignore cheesesticks101
[07:16] <cheesesticks101> im hvniag trloube with the "Breyl Seigtnts Mangear." I tinred to turn on rian but it desont work. why?
[07:16] <cheesesticks101> tpye: /irgnoe cicheekssets101
[07:16] <Pici> davidspart_: dont ask me, address the channel.
[07:16] <misty> yay the bot is gone
[07:17] <dissection> Hello, what is the command to start dcop from the terminal?
[07:17] <davidspart_> well basically, my ubuntu install can no longer connect to my wireless network. i've tried running from the latest LIVE cd iso and it has the same problem. the system can detect that the wireless is there, as it knows when the name changes, but it cant get an ip address or any other ninformation. i also think it gets stuck on validating the security key, as when i add or remove a security...
[07:17] <davidspart_> ...key it doesnt realise until i restart. ideas?
[07:17] <denny> evening
[07:17] <IdleOne> hello denny
[07:18] <zorrolero> hi, there was a bug in /etc/event.d/tty* when upgrading to feisty. in my fresh feisty-install, there is a "time"-prob for tty1. the last bootup-messages overwrite the login-prompt of tty1.(
[07:18] <tomaw> denny: he left.
[07:18] <zolar> I just had to restore my evolution contact list....  I have check it out and do not see a way to backup it up.   Does any one know how to back up the contact list in evolution.
[07:18] <xtknight> * cheesesticks101 (n=ParrotBo@12-227-168-104.client.mchsi.com) has left #ubuntu
[07:18] <elekfs> bob you're a silly nigger <3
[07:18] <zorrolero> tried to add a "sleep 4" to /etc/event.d/tty1 before the exec of getty, but this ends in not starting tty1! :(
[07:18] <IdleOne> !ohmy | elekfs
[07:18] <Pici> !ohmy | elekfs
[07:18] <ubotu> elekfs: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:18] <kitche> zorrolero: just type your username and password as nornal it works fine but just the messages go past the login but still works
[07:18] <elekfs> sorry
[07:18] <dissection> What is the command to start dcop from the terminal?
[07:19] <misty> elekfs: not cool
[07:19] <davidspart_> anyone have any ideas about my problem
[07:19] <elekfs> haha bob
[07:19] <bob> keke
[07:19] <IdleOne> elekfs, as a matter of fact you should be banned from this # and k-lined
[07:19] <elekfs> im getting in trouble ;[
[07:19] <zorrolero> kitche: yep, right. but...it looks like shit! ,)
[07:19] <elekfs> no klines, i come in peace
[07:19] <command0-182> Hello agian, where can I get Wine 9.4? I mean...I've been to the page...but I can't find anything for kubuntu
[07:19] <kitche> !language | zorrolero
[07:19] <ubotu> zorrolero: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:20] <zorrolero> uh, ok. sorry parents.
[07:20] <zorrolero> ...and kids.
[07:20] <elekfs> kline him too, if im going down
[07:20] <davidspart_> well basically, my ubuntu install can no longer connect to my wireless network. i've tried running from the latest LIVE cd iso and it has the same problem. the system can detect that the wireless is there, as it knows when the name changes, but it cant get an ip address or any other ninformation. i also think it gets stuck on validating the security key, as when i add or remove a security...
[07:20] <davidspart_> ...key it doesnt realise until i restart. ideas?
[07:20] <darwin81> command0-182, Use the instructions for Ubuntu
[07:20] <herbaliser> zorrolero: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/03/how-to-backup-evolution/
[07:20] <zorrolero> herbaliser: ?
[07:20] <davidspart_> does anyone have any ideas at all
[07:21] <davidspart_> anything
[07:21] <davidspart_> anyone
[07:21] <davidspart_> ?
[07:21] <herbaliser> oh
[07:21] <herbaliser> wrong contact
[07:21] <surviver> how can i record stream audio ? , i got the programs but they cant find my soundcard input for it...
[07:21] <command0-182> Yeah...I know...its says to search for it in the adept manager...but I can't find it there
[07:21] <elekfs> for me to part
[07:21] <darwin81> Ubuntu isn't detecting my ethernet port.
[07:21] <elekfs> force
[07:21] <herbaliser> zolar: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/03/how-to-backup-evolution/
[07:21] <elekfs> please, thats really what im testing
[07:21] <xtknight>  ah one more to the ignore list
[07:21] <elekfs> figured by dropping the N bomb it would happen
[07:21] <baikonur> since ubuntu 7.04 you cannot skip DVD nag screens (this dvd is protected by copyright ...) with totem-xine anymore? why is that?
[07:22] <elekfs> pewbert: =] 
[07:22] <bob> HAI PUBERT
[07:22] <sunspec> what is the command to list mount points?
[07:22] <herbaliser> mount
[07:22] <pewbert> rofl
[07:22] <pewbert> haha
[07:22] <herbaliser> :)
[07:22] <elekfs> these people rawk
[07:22] <sunspec> no to list the possible mount points
[07:22] <pewbert> i rawk with my cawk out
[07:22] <davidspart_> CAN ANYONE EHELP ME WITH MY WIRELESS PROBLEM
[07:22] <herbaliser> no caps and then maybe
[07:22] <herbaliser> :)
[07:22] <pewbert> davidspart_: ez, get something other than ubuntu.
[07:22] <davidspart_> jessus christ ive asked enough times
[07:23] <elekfs> davidspart_: plug it in
[07:23] <bob> ROFL
[07:23] <phaidros7> davidspart_: did you change something on the access point or wireless router?
[07:23] <davidspart_> well basically, my ubuntu install can no longer connect to my wireless network. i've tried running from the latest LIVE cd iso and it has the same problem. the system can detect that the wireless is there, as it knows when the name changes, but it cant get an ip address or any other ninformation. i also think it gets stuck on validating the security key, as when i add or remove a security...
[07:23] <sunspec> mount is not the command to list mount points
[07:23] <davidspart_> ...key it doesnt realise until i restart. ideas?
[07:23] <herbaliser> what is your problem?
[07:23] <phaidros7> davidspart_: did you change something on the access point or wireless router?
[07:23] <davidspart_> phaidros7: i did, i had to hard reset, but it is all back and running and now and other wireless devices can connect to it fine
[07:23] <xtknight> just for reference, correct cmd is "/ignore NICKNAME!*@* ALL"
[07:23] <phaidros7> ...there could be features like limiting access by MAC for example
[07:23] <phaidros7> oic
[07:24] <doublehp> davidspart_: did you /topic ?
[07:24] <pewbert> davidspart_: other distros won't have this problem, even windows won't.
[07:24] <bob> yarly
[07:24] <bob> it works on linspire
[07:24] <elekfs> davidspart_: first step is spin around in circles three times
[07:24] <davidspart_> yes i did topic
[07:24] <elekfs> then type shutdown -r now
[07:24] <MrElendig> http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/comics/irreg0609.jpg
[07:24] <elekfs> you said restarting fixes it, so restart
[07:24] <Pici> !offtopic | elekfs bob
[07:24] <ubotu> elekfs bob: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:24] <BadRobot> I have the same problem with my wifes laptop.davidsprt_
[07:25] <davidspart_> im glad im not alone :)
[07:25] <sunspec> Ooops i meant what is the command to see the devices that are able to be mounted?
[07:25] <bob> why would you pipe it to commands that do not exist
[07:25] <xtknight> sunspec, sudo fdisk -l
[07:25] <bob> shouldnt it be >
[07:25] <slam> can anyone help me compile or whatever I need to do get kismet to work
[07:25] <sunspec> ty
[07:25] <bob> HAI Pezmaker
[07:25] <elekfs> PEZ!
[07:25] <davidspart_> i mean
[07:25] <Pezmaker> hai to you 2
[07:25] <davidspart_> i dont see what has changed on my linux
[07:25] <MSG4> anyone know a good price for dx10 and compatiable with ubuntu glx/ effect
[07:25] <pewbert> slam: yes, use something other than ubuntu since ubuntu steaming pile of elephant crap.
[07:25] <herbaliser> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[07:25] <herbaliser> davidparts: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[07:26] <darwin81> Ubuntu detect my Ethernet controller as an Realtek RTL-8139, but I can't connect to my network.
[07:26] <elekfs> finland, oh shit im smart
[07:26] <elekfs> linus?  is that you
[07:26] <ilikec0ws> !ohmy | elekfs
[07:26] <baikonur> davidspart_: for debugging purposes you should test your wireless connection without encryption first
[07:26] <ubotu> elekfs: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:26] <IdleOne> !ohmy elekfs second warning!
[07:26] <pewbert> darwin81: try using one of the many distros out there that don't suck.
[07:26] <davidspart_> baikonur: i have done and it produces the same results
[07:26] <elekfs> !ohmy elekfs third warning!
[07:26] <phaidros7> davidspart_: when you try dhclient as root (or something like sudo dhlient) - what error appears?
[07:26] <MSG4> anyone know a good video card that have dx10 and compatiable with ubuntu glx/ effect
[07:27] <bob> lmao
[07:27] <Hazler> Hey all i have a problem with my game Savage, could anyone help?
[07:27] <phaidros7> oops, sudo dhclient
[07:27] <{-Billy-}> Is there anyway i can install Ubuntu on my computer without altering my current OS. I believe there is a program.
[07:27] <darwin81> pewbert, that's helpful
[07:27] <davidspart_> its like
[07:27] <davidspart_> the linux computer
[07:27] <Pezmaker> man, this chan moves too fast, how can anyone read anything/help anyone
[07:27] <BadRobot> I've tried everything to make it to work but no luck,i can connect to wifi without any wep or wpa,but if i need to put any password it doesn't work
[07:27] <baikonur> davidspart_: do you use dhcp? did you try setting a static ip address?
[07:27] <pewbert> MSG4: no card is compatible with this elephant crap you refer to as ubuntu.
[07:27] <IdleOne> pewbert, if you want to discuss distros that may or may not be better then Ubuntu please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:27] <bob> yarly
[07:27] <PriceChild> !ohmy | pewbert
[07:27] <ubotu> pewbert: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:27] <vox754> Pezmaker, you would be surprised
[07:27] <compilerwriter> Billy you can do dual boot install yes.
[07:27] <slam>  pewbert: im going to have to agree
[07:27] <kent> Pezmaker: were robots. we can read over 1000 lines per sec.
[07:27] <pewbert> I don't recall using curse words.
[07:28] <PriceChild> !offtopic
[07:28] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:28] <ferronica> Is there any torrent search TOOLBAR for ubuntu Fiesty Fawn?
[07:28] <tapas> {-Billy-}: there is a way to put a linux fs into a directory of a fat32 partition. dunno if ubuntu offers that out of th box
[07:28] <tapas> !umsdos
[07:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about umsdos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:28] <jose__> Could anyone help me to enable my mic in ubuntu? Alsamixer seems to be of little help, I'm afraid.
[07:28] <grim76> likmout: You still there...sorry had to step away from my desk for a minute
[07:28] <pewbert> is elephant a bad word if you're a tree hugging hippy?
[07:28] <doublehp> after upgrade to dapper, udev seem broken, hw to fix it ? "ls /dev |grep hd |wc -l" => 168
[07:28] <magnetron> ferronica: there are some torrent toolbars for firefox.
[07:28] <davidspart_> phaidors7: 1min
[07:28] <davidspart_> baikonur: i am using DHCP on my router
[07:28] <IdleOne> PriceChild, he's a troll..might as well get rid of him noe
[07:28] <ferronica> magnetron: which are those ?
[07:28] <PriceChild> !ohmy | elekfs
[07:28] <ubotu> elekfs: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:28] <tapas> {-Billy-}: oh it's not available in ubuntu
[07:29] <herbaliser> anybody know good WLAN survey tool besides kismet
[07:29] <vox754> {-Billy-}, maybe using a virtual machine within your current OS
[07:29] <Hazler> Hey could someone help with my games Sound, the game is Savage
[07:29] <Jen> I've made a ned "Screen" section in my xorg.conf - how can I use that when I VCN to my Ubuntu pc?
[07:29] <tapas> {-Billy-}: so you will need to have a partition for linux somewhere :)
[07:29] <likmout> yes im here grim
[07:29] <grim76> Ok what was the issue that you are having.
[07:29] <pewbert> family friendly, your entire family uses the same pc at the same time?
[07:29] <tapas> or maybe some dirty hack is possible mounting some flat file in an ntfs filesystem as / via the loopback device
[07:29] <elekfs> is ubuntu affiliated with the commies of n. korea?
[07:30] <fusheh> elekfs: ....?
[07:30] <doublehp> Jen I'd say: you cant :)
[07:30] <jose__> South Africa, actually.
[07:30] <tapas> Jen: VNC doesn't use xorg.conf
[07:30] <elekfs> serious question
[07:30] <pewbert> elekfs: of course they're communists.
[07:30] <baikonur> davidspart_: does the wireless has got an IP address? type ifconfig into a terminal. see if you have a connection with iwconfig or wavemon
[07:30] <ismael_> how  can I install a vivanco Issue webcam in ubuntu?
[07:30] <BadRobot> what is commies?
[07:30] <tapas> Jen: it has its own config file.. check in /etc/ and man vncserver
[07:30] <Hazler> Could anyone help me plz?  My game, Savage, the sound is very laggy but the game itself runs very well
[07:30] <elekfs> BadRobot: good people
[07:30] <likmout> trying an update and getting a errorabout dpgk
[07:30] <BadRobot> ok
[07:30] <magnetron> elekfs is commie?
[07:30] <MSG4> pewbert what video card you have?
[07:30] <surviver> anyone know how i can record stream, i got program but dont know how to set soundinput ??
[07:30] <vox754> viva PriceChild
[07:31] <tapas> surviver: use a mixer program like alsamixer to setup what device to record from
[07:31] <tapas> surviver: then your recording program [e.g. audacity]  should work..
[07:31] <davidspart_> baikonur: doesnt seem to have an ip address but phaidros7: when i run dhclient is says bound to 192.168.1.112
[07:31] <vox754> {-Billy-}, sorry I can't answer private messages. Just browse for VMWare
[07:31] <likmout> here is the error i'm getting : dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[07:31] <likmout> E: _cache->open() failed, please report
[07:31] <BadRobot> how i install skins on XMMS?
[07:31] <dxdemetriou> anybody knows how can I configure wine to use local language? I don't know where to ask
[07:31] <Hazler> Could anyone help me plz?  My game, Savage, the sound is very laggy but the game itself runs very well
[07:32] <tapas> likmout: did you run that command?
[07:32] <vox754> !vmware | {-Billy-}
[07:32] <ubotu> {-Billy-}: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[07:32] <Hazler> Could anyone help me plz?  My game, Savage, the sound is very laggy but the game itself runs very well
[07:32] <MSG4> is there a forum for video cards that Ubuntu able to supports
[07:32] <surviver> tanpas, thx ill try
[07:32] <doublehp> BadRobot: put it in a fodler in ~/.xmms/
[07:32] <gangsterlicious> !fail
[07:32] <Pici> !hardware | MSG4 check this out
[07:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fail - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:32] <ubotu> MSG4 check this out: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[07:32] <likmout> tried it but nothing happen
[07:32] <magnetron> !repeat | Hazler
[07:32] <mhz`> anyone know how to get pidgin to accept returns when creating away messages/editing user info?
[07:32] <slam> wget http://www.kismetwireless.net/code/orinoco-2.6.12-rfmon-dragorn-1.diff
[07:32] <davidspart_> baikonur phaidros7: but in netowkr mananger ir still says 0.0.0.0 for everything except mac address
[07:32] <ubotu> Hazler: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:32] <davidspart_> and driver obv
[07:32] <mhz`> anyone have experience changing an eggdrop's character set? i need it to join a chan that has ascii characters in the name
[07:32] <phaidros7> davidspart_: that looks good. so maybe the wep or wpa key is missing?
[07:33] <grim76> likmout: did you try the command with sudo in front of it?
[07:33] <tapas> Hazler: what kind of game is it? got a link to it?
[07:33] <likmout> yes
[07:33] <phaidros7> davidspart_: oh. looks not so god. mom...
[07:33] <baikonur> davidspart_: can you ping the router? ping 192.168.1.1 (if that is the ip address of your router)
[07:33] <IdleOne> mhz`, try #eggdrop
[07:33] <BigBen_> i'm always getting: human-icon-theme is missing final newline. everytime i do some stuff, like install a package.
[07:33] <compilerwriter> If a person has the live cd and then proceeds to use the install command will it not ask if they want a dual boot system or not?
[07:33] <likmout> here is what i did   sudo dpgk
[07:34] <CaptainM> compilerwriter, it will
[07:34] <likmout> sorry thats dpkg
[07:34] <chump> phairdros7 is gnome-cups-add is it by chance an X app?
[07:34] <baikonur> davidspart_: what's the name of your wireless device?
[07:34] <grim76> likmout: I think the command that it had asked you to do was sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:35] <likmout> ok let me see
[07:35] <baikonur> davidspart_: ifconfig shows the name at the first column
[07:35] <miaka> anyone know how to install grub and can help me?
[07:35] <phaidros7> davidspart_: when you did the dhcielnt, maybe you should log out of gnome, say sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart and log in agagin
[07:35] <davidspart_> phaidros7 baikonur: attempting to ping router, card is belkin f5d7000 thing and router is linksys wrt54gl with DD-wrt
[07:35] <r00tintheb0x> !grub | miaka
[07:35] <ubotu> miaka: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:36] <BigBen_> anyone known why i get human-icon-theme is missing final newline. ?
[07:36] <davidspart_> baikonur: name is ra0
[07:36] <miaka> i lost grub during the ubuntu installaion
[07:36] <rastadmin> witam
[07:36] <likmout> now its telling me unable to get exclusive lock
[07:36] <rastadmin> "_
[07:36] <r00tintheb0x> miaka see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:36] <r00tintheb0x> likmout, you have apt/aptitude/synaptic running. Close them and try again.
[07:36] <baikonur> davidspart_: with dd-wrt you can look which clients are associated with your router. lookup the mac adress via ifconfig of ra0 and see if it shows up in the list on the routers webinterface
[07:36] <davidspart_> phaidros7 baikonur: while pinging, it says Destination Host Unreachable
[07:37] <davidspart_> ok
[07:37] <grim76> likmout: do you have synaptic or adept open?
[07:37] <baikonur> davidspart_: does ifconfig show an IP address for ra0?
[07:37] <karrotx> how do i find out which version im on?
[07:37] <phaidros7> davidspart_: how many interfaces do you get when saying ifconfig?
[07:37] <davidspart_> baikonur: no
[07:37] <likmout> dont appear to but let me close everything
[07:38] <MSG4> Pici i'm planning get GeForce 7600GT 256MB but its not listed on HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsNvidia
[07:38] <stefg> !version
[07:38] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[07:38] <davidspart_> phaidros7: i get 4: eth0, eth0:avah, lo, ra0
[07:38] <likmout> got to run to wendys a min be right back
[07:38] <karrotx> thanks
[07:38] <Pici> MSG4: I'm pretty sure you should be okay... let me check something and get back to you.
[07:39] <davidspart_> baikonur: MAC Address 	Signal 	Noise 	SNR 	Signal Quality
[07:39] <davidspart_> 00:11:50:90:BE:DF	-55	-98	43	
[07:39] <phaidros7> davidspart_: and only ra0 is connected? (except lo)
[07:39] <davidspart_> 48%
[07:39] <baikonur> davidspart_: then you're probably not authenticated correctly if you're actually associated to the access point
[07:39] <miaka> rastadmin, polska?
[07:39] <davidspart_> baikonur: it goes on and off, the association
[07:39] <davidspart_> there is no authentication on the router atm and ubuntu does not ask my correctly
[07:40] <davidspart_> i mean it doesnt ask me for any
[07:40] <dimas__> does someone able to tell me what does a .xpt file?
[07:40] <davidspart_> i think you are probs right but i dont know why not or how to fix it
[07:40] <baikonur> davidspart_: you have no encryption configured on the router? and there is no MAC filter enabled?
[07:41] <davidspart_> baikonur: wireless encryption is currently disabled and MAC filters are disabled also
[07:41] <Hc\\> :o
[07:41] <Pici> MSG4: The linux nvidia driver from nvidia's site supports the 7600gt.  So you should be good.  Good AGP card too, I have it on my window's computer.
[07:41] <davidspart_> phaidros7: yes i tihnk only ra0 is connected, i am certainly not connected via wire to the router
[07:42] <phaidros7> ok
[07:42] <phaidros7> hmmm
[07:42] <MSG4> Pici also does ASUS P5W DH Deluxe motherboard works too?
[07:42] <phaidros7> so you get an IP but can't ping the router... hmmm
[07:42] <davidspart_> well, getting an IP is on and off...
[07:43] <phaidros7> anyone ideas?
[07:43] <davidspart_> i have had an IP before when trying to fix it
[07:43] <davidspart_> but not currently
[07:43] <retour> Community please help with my LCD panel
[07:43] <phaidros7> ohz
[07:43] <davidspart_> and all others (DNS etc ) are always 0.0.0.0
[07:43] <delcoyote> ubuntu translators irc channel? is there anyone?
[07:43] <dissection> How can I find the path to my dcop?
[07:43] <savetheWorld> "type dcop"
[07:43] <savetheWorld> or "which dcop"
[07:44] <CaptainM> !ask | retour
[07:44] <ubotu> retour: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:44] <doublehp> any one can help ? http://rafb.net/p/vvPtPX40.html
[07:44] <doublehp> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ said me : "You appear to be spamming the pastebin. I hate spammers so I won't let you. If you're not attempting to spam, please enable javascript so you can pass the antispam check" while JS is enabled ... is that normal ?
[07:44] <savetheWorld> doublehp: describe problem here, then people will decide if they can help and look at the paste
[07:45] <retour> On my video card NVIDIA 8600 CRT works LCD dont! WHY and how to fix it?
[07:45] <savetheWorld> doublehp: try www.pastebin.ca instead
[07:45] <baikonur> davidspart_: try setting a static ip address for ra0: sudo ifconfig ra0 192.168.1.25 netmask 255.255.255.0 (only if .25 isn't used already) and check your routes with route -n and set your default gw with sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.1 (if not already present)
[07:45] <darwin81> I'm trying to get online. Network Settings says my wired connection is working but I can't get to a website or apt-get update. I have a Realtek RTL-8139 Ethernet controller.
[07:45] <davidspart_> ok i will try htat 1min
[07:45] <command0-182> How do I add a repository key to my systems list of trusted API sources?
[07:46] <doublehp> retour: did you play with modlines ? most LCD only accept 60Hz, a frequency that make you have headicks on CRTs ...
[07:46] <command0-182> How do I add a repository key to my systems list of trusted APT sources?
[07:46] <baikonur> darwin81: can you ping your router or any ip address on the internet?
[07:46] <PriceChild> command0-182, add the line to /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:46] <delcoyote> found it #ubuntu-translators
[07:46] <command0-182> OK
[07:47] <doublehp> savetheWorld: Rafb have always been nice to me :) I was just trying yhe chans one ... and it doenst work.
[07:47] <IdleOne> command0-182, remember to do sudo apt-get update after you add the line
[07:47] <retour> doublehp: I install Ubuntu in 1024 x 768 / 60Hz video mode. Plug CRT (through) DVI VGA adapter - everything works. Plugh LCD panel through VGA or DVI and no go!
[07:48] <darwin81> baikonur, How do I ping a website?
[07:48] <doublehp> savetheWorld I meant: using a restricted bin in the topic looks stupid to me
[07:48] <baikonur> PriceChild: don't you have to get the public key via gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys KEYID first export it via gpg --export KEYID > /etc/apt/name.key and then do apt-key add /etc/apt/name.key?
[07:48] <bwlang> I'd like to make a gnome icon that executes a little java script to start a mini browser window... ideally one that minimized to the notification area... is there some applet to help me with that (like bubbles on windows?)
[07:48] <command0-182> Do I type that in the alt+f2 window?
[07:48] <ElvanorAtWork> How do I load the console in Ubuntu live cd ??
[07:48] <baikonur> darwin81: how do you connect to the internet?
[07:48] <ElvanorAtWork> very easy question
[07:48] <ElvanorAtWork> but I am not familiar with Ubuntu or Gnome
[07:48] <PriceChild> baikonur, you add whatever key you trust with apt-key add
[07:49] <ElvanorAtWork> I just need a console...
[07:49] <doublehp> retour: install != use ... there are 60 and 60 ...
[07:49] <ElvanorAtWork> (graphical)
[07:49] <s3w> buenas alguno tiene el ccna?
[07:49] <IdleOne> !es | s3w
[07:49] <ubotu> s3w: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:49] <baikonur> PriceChild: I was asking because of the answer you gave to command0-182. Maybe I misinterpreted his question. I thought that would be the answer
[07:49] <CyberphaZ> hmm if i use fglrx from ati, do i still need to install a kernel driver for my gfx card before i can use the hardware opengl?
[07:50] <PriceChild> baikonur, whoops yes I'm with you
[07:50] <davidspart_> baikonur: when i run route -n after adding that route, i get
[07:50] <IdleOne> command0-182, in terminal type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:50] <PriceChild> baikonur, you can use System > Administration > Software Sources
[07:50] <ElvanorAtWork> anyone to help me??
[07:50] <darwin81> baikonur, Cable internet through a router.
[07:50] <retour> doublehp: please wait I will boot it again and double check that Screen resolution applet says 1024 and 60 Hz
[07:50] <PriceChild> baikonur, then add the key in the "Authentication" tab
[07:50] <ElvanorAtWork> this must be very easy
[07:50] <ElvanorAtWork> but I cannot find the console...
[07:50] <ElvanorAtWork> in KDE this is so easy to launch Konsole
[07:50] <Pici> ElvanorAtWork: applications>accessories>terminal
[07:50] <PriceChild> ElvanorAtWork, applications > accessories > terminal
[07:50] <doublehp> retour: 1mn ...
[07:50] <IdleOne> ElvanorAtWork, in Applications > Accessories
[07:51] <ElvanorAtWork> is this ok in the live CD ?
[07:51] <WaxyFresh> hi im running a amd64 and need to install 32 bit firefox can anyone talk me thru this without giving me a link somewhere?i dont have a browser installed and would rather not install one
[07:51] <davidspart> sorry my firefox crashed :/
[07:51] <baikonur> PriceChild: ah okay, I didn't asked the question though. I use a terminal to do it :-)
[07:51] <doublehp> retour: I meant, 59,98 or 60,01 may be displayed as "60" on CRT ...
[07:51] <Pici> ElvanorAtWork: Should be the same on any default gnome setup.
[07:51] <PriceChild> baikonur, whoops I'm silly :)
[07:51] <ElvanorAtWork> Pici: is it available on the live CD?
[07:51] <CaptainM> ElvanorAtWork, yup
[07:51] <davidspart> baikonur: i get 3 thnigs in the table
[07:51] <davidspart> 2 for ra0, 1 for eth0
[07:51] <baikonur> darwin81: do you know the IP address of your router?
[07:51] <doublehp> retour: very small differences can prevent LCD working; all depend on modelines
[07:52] <IdleOne> ElvanorAtWork, in kubuntu it is called Konsole in Ubuntu it is called Terminal
[07:52] <PriceChild> baikonur, are he's gone now too :(
[07:52] <ElvanorAtWork> ok, found, thx
[07:52] <doublehp> retour: dont be confuse between console resolution, and X !!!
[07:52] <retour> doublehp: so where should I check for proper modlines?
[07:52] <davidspart> baikonur: the new one that i get is dest: 0.0.0.0 gatwaw: 192.168.1.1 genmask: 0.0.0.0 flags UG
[07:52] <davidspart> and others are 0
[07:53] <agresor> is there any good software for scaning image from scaner /
[07:53] <darwin81> baikonur, yes
[07:53] <agresor>  ?
[07:53] <retour> doublehp: well it says 60!
[07:53] <doublehp> retour: /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:53] <agresor> is there any good software for scaning image from scaner  ?
[07:53] <baikonur> darwin81: open up a terminal and type: ping IP address of your router and see if you get a reply
[07:53] <vox754> !scanner
[07:53] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[07:53] <retour> doublehp: ok will jump into it and check. How long you will be here?
[07:54] <agresor> mercy
[07:54] <doublehp> retour: I can generate either 60.0 or 60.1; some Sun screen confirm this decimal; Iiyama wont.
[07:54] <ElvanorAtWork> what's the root password on the live CD then?
[07:54] <darwin81> baikonur, I get "Destination Host Unreachable"
[07:54] <davidspart> does that make any sense baiknour
[07:54] <kitche> ElvanorAtWork: root is locked so there is no root password
[07:54] <doublehp> retour: hours if you HL me
[07:55] <ElvanorAtWork> kitche: you cannot get root privileges on the Live CD????
[07:55] <kitche> !sudo | ElvanorAtWork
[07:55] <retour> doublehp: thank you I will!
[07:55] <ubotu> ElvanorAtWork: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:55] <vox754> ElvanorAtWork, just "sudo <program>" it doesn't even ask you for a password but you have root privileges
[07:55] <loca|host> i've just installed Feisty on my new PC, and it doesnt slow down the CPU fans when the system starts, it's like if Ubuntu doesnt know if the CPU is cold so it must slow down the fans, and that began to be really very noisy
[07:55] <ElvanorAtWork> ok, so sudo is available
[07:56] <WaxyFresh> can someone walk me thru installing firefox32 on a 64 bit ubuntu machine? id look it up  but no browser.
[07:56] <mrsno__> !ar
[07:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:56] <switchcat> no lynx or links?
[07:56] <mrsno__> arabic = ?
[07:56] <baikonur> darwin81: did you set up an ip address for your wired network device? or did the device get an address via dhcp?
[07:56] <PriceChild> WaxyFresh, back a bit... why do you want to do this?
[07:56] <darwin81> baikonur, DHCP
[07:56] <MSG4> does ubuntu has the hardwaresupports for ASUS P5W DH Deluxe motherboard?
[07:57] <darnir> #videolan
[07:57] <ShockValue> well crap, i broke my first attempt at ubuntu.. i told it to use the fglrx driver (i have an ati x1950) and now it wont boot.. just gives me alittle white blinking cursor and sits there
[07:57] <leszek> hi
[07:57] <IdleOne> Open a terminal and install these fundamental libraries for 32 bit support under 64 bit native Linux:
[07:57] <IdleOne>     *
[07:57] <IdleOne>       sudo apt-get install ia32-libs ia32-libs-gtk linux32 lib32asound2
[07:57] <IdleOne> 
[07:57] <IdleOne> Step 2: Download and Install the 32 Bit Edition of Firefox
[07:57] <WaxyFresh> PriceChild: 64bit firefox dosent support java/flash,so i want to install the 32 bit versoin so i can install all the plugins im used to
[07:57] <IdleOne>    1.
[07:57] <ilikec0ws> ShockValue: thats not 'broke'
[07:57] <IdleOne>       Download Firefox
[07:58] <PriceChild> !flash64 | WaxyFresh
[07:58] <IdleOne>           *
[07:58] <ubotu> WaxyFresh: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[07:58] <IdleOne>             Download the installation gzip from [WWW]  http://www.getfirefox.com. The following link will download the most recent version of firefox as of this writing: [WWW]  http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/products/download.html?product=firefox-2.0.0.2&os=linux&lang=en-US
[07:58] <IdleOne>    2.
[07:58] <IdleOne>       Extract Firefox
[07:58] <IdleOne>           *
[07:58] <IdleOne>             Extract the tarball to your desktop. It should create a directory called  firefox  there. Move this directory to  /usr/local/firefox32 . The following snippet will accomplish this from a terminal:
[07:58] <baikonur> darwin81: and you really got a dhcp lease from the router? type "ifconfig" into a terminal and see if your ethernet device (probably eth0) has an ip address and do "cat /etc/resolv.conf" to see if nameserver are configured
[07:58] <IdleOne>             sudo mv ~/Desktop/firefox /usr/local/firefox32
[07:58] <magnetron> !paste > IdleOne
[07:58] <MSG4> does ubuntu has the hardwaresupports for ASUS P5W DH Deluxe motherboard??
[07:58] <PriceChild> IdleOne, auto-rejoins are BAD!!!
[07:58] <pipatron> Hey folks, how do I safely unmount my USB-connected digital camera in ubuntut
[07:58] <magnetron> !hardware
[07:58] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[07:58] <retour> doublehp: xorg.conf says Generic Monitor , HorizSync: 28-51 VertRefresh 43-60 and below diffrent resolution and color depth modes
[07:58] <PriceChild> pipatron, right click the icon on the desktop and select unmount
[07:59] <pipatron> PriceChild: I've tried - The intelligent gnome-automounter quickly finds it again and remounts it after half a second
[07:59] <yondie> PriceChild, u can disable the gnome-automounter if u wan to
[07:59] <PriceChild> pipatron, how very odd... that's a bug and not usual behaviour...
[07:59] <pipatron> PriceChild: I see
[07:59] <PriceChild> yondie, could you tell pipatron how to do that temporarily?
[07:59] <magnetron> pipatron: try turning the camera off
[07:59] <PriceChild> IdleOne, msg me when ready to be unmuted
[07:59] <pipatron> magnetron: I have, then it whines about unsafe removal
[08:00] <magnetron> pipatron: i am talking about the power button on the camera
[08:00] <pipatron> magnetron: Me too
[08:00] <magnetron> pipatron: i see
[08:00] <AaronMT> wow first time I've had to /clear in a while
[08:00] <pipatron> So where can I control the automounter behaviour?
[08:01] <doublehp> how to configure sound ? card is in lspci, but alsamixer cant find it
[08:01] <pipatron> Ok found it, "Removable Drives and Media"
[08:01] <PriceChild> doublehp, what card?
[08:01] <Skrypt> !terminal
[08:01] <doublehp> PriceChild Intel Corporation 82801AB AC'97 Audio
[08:01] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[08:02] <Skrypt> What's the keyboard shortcut for the terminal?
[08:02] <yondie> pipatron, run gconf-editor ... find gnome-volume-manager
[08:02] <PriceChild> doublehp, that should be working perfectly.. /msg ubotu sound
[08:02] <yondie> or volume-manager
[08:02] <yondie> unthick automount
[08:02] <vox754> Skrypt, Alt+F2 then "gnome-terminal"
[08:03] <herbaliser> i'm having troubles installing rubygems on ubuntu, getting No library stubs found anybody installed rubygems before?
[08:03] <loca|host> anyone ?
[08:03] <loca|host> i've just installed Feisty on my new PC, and it doesnt slow down the CPU fans when the system starts, it's like if Ubuntu doesnt know if the CPU is cold so it must slow down the fans, and that began to be really very noisy
[08:04] <darwin81> baikonur, ifconfig does not list an ip address and it says /etc/resolv.conf does not exist
[08:04] <blue|palm> has anyone tried using the gl/gl2 drivers for running mplayer? Is the performance bad?
[08:05] <WaxyFresh> IdleOne: thanks
[08:05] <baikonur> darwin81: there is something wrong with the configuration of your network card, I'll be back later ask somebody else or search the internet to see how you can configure your network card
[08:05] <gaten> my volume up/down keys no longer affect the volume. i can see the little volume icon come up and it shows the volume going up and down, but it does not affect the system volume. anyone help me with this?
[08:05] <wonka_> quit
[08:06] <CaptainM> gaten, is pcm selected at system > preferences sound?
[08:06] <ShockValue> for an x1950 ati, i do want the fglrx video driver?  or something else?
[08:07] <blue|palm> ShockValue, you do want fglrx
[08:07] <ubuntuEdgy> hi guys i need some help i keep getting , Stopping DHCP server dhcpd3                                           [fail] 
[08:07] <blue|palm> ShockValue, rather use the built-in restricted driver manager
[08:07] <ubuntuEdgy> even when i start it its fails
[08:07] <blue|palm> ShockValue, it 'just works' tm
[08:08] <gaten> CaptainM: yes! thank you so much, i've been going nuts with this
[08:08] <herbaliser> local|host what hardware are u using?
[08:08] <mhz`> anyone have experience changing an eggdrop's character set? i need it to join a chan that has ascii characters in the name
[08:08] <mhz`> anyone know how to get pidgin to accept returns when creating away messages/editing user info?
[08:08] <mhz`> those are my 2 questions :(
[08:09] <cdarocioor> esa canillera
[08:09] <CaptainM> gaten, took me a wile to figure this out too
[08:09] <CyberphaZ> if lspci says its an unknown ati card, i assume its not supported in the current kernel and i somehow have to add a driver for it?
[08:09] <rhys> Hey there. Does anyone know why my windows open off-screen? I think it has something to do with Compiz-Fusion because it works fine when disabled. Not sure why it started doing it, because it worked fine a couple of days ago. Example of what I mean is here, check the terminal: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Rhys120/problem-1.png?t=1184090847
[08:10] <Spark> how do i set how firefox opens a .pdf file, is it a system-wide mime types thing?
[08:10] <mhz`> why would you want that?
[08:10] <Spark> me?
[08:10] <mhz`> yeah
[08:11] <doublehp> PriceChild problem starts way before what tuto proposes ... in fact, tuto assumes drivers are loaded ... and I think the problem happens even before that
[08:11] <Spark> because i want it to use my own pdf reader
[08:11] <Typwn> Spark: If you right click the pdf and go down to properties, click the open with Tab and click +Add. That should allow you to set FireFox to open them.
[08:11] <herbaliser> i'm having troubles installing rubygems on ubuntu, getting No library stubs found anybody installed rubygems before?
[08:11] <Spark> Typwn: right click in firefox?
[08:11] <doublehp> Spark that can be set in your profile
[08:11] <dimas__> does anyone use xawtv?
[08:11] <Spark> are you saying this is a gnome thing?
[08:11] <retour> doublehp: xorg.conf says Generic Monitor , HorizSync: 28-51 VertRefresh 43-60 and below diffrent resolution and color depth modes
[08:11] <vox754> dimas__, I do!
[08:11] <Spark> i'm not running gnome :)
[08:11] <jamesbrose123> Any one know how I would make a public_html file in every home directory?
[08:11] <Spark> so how do i configure it
[08:11] <mhz`> james, you could probably make a bash script
[08:11] <mhz`> to do it
[08:12] <Typwn> Spark: Ah, no idea then lol. (I'm new to Linux, but thought I would try to give back since I've been asking a lot of questions lol)
[08:12] <[Hyarion] > hi guys, I recently upgraded from 6.10 to 7.04 but now my internet isn't working :( the adapter shows up in iwconfig and lspci, but still no luck, any ideas?
[08:12] <mhz`> grab each user's name from the /home then mkdir /home/$user
[08:12] <mhz`> etc
[08:12] <Spark> doublehp: which profile?
[08:12] <doublehp> retour: stupid idear: plug LCD, reboot; if not working, go back console; if console OK, reconfigure compleetely X (backup conf before that )
[08:12] <mhz`> Hyarion, you're online :)
[08:12] <Spark> for i in /home/* ; do mkdir $i/public_html ; done
[08:12] <Spark> with quotes if your users have spaces in them
[08:12] <techjim> elkbuntu: ping
[08:12] <doublehp> Spark your's
[08:12] <mhz`> there ya go, james
[08:12] <soneil> (and chown so it's usable)
[08:13] <kloske> Hi, i'm new. I have a question: I want to burn a VCD in Ubuntu. Do I need any programs for that? (It's an AVI-File)
[08:13] <Typwn> [Hyarion] : I had the same problem. You have to shut off your router and modem so your computer can be assigned new IPs.
[08:13] <Spark> doublehp: what is a "profile", you mean .profile ?
[08:13] <mike4479> Hi guys how you delete a user group with root?
[08:13] <dimas__> vox754 could you explain me a bit about xawtv....i dont understand...is this xawtv could be use to transmit video to another source?
[08:13] <[Hyarion] > Typwn, I like that idea, let me try, thanks!
[08:13] <Typwn> [Hyarion] : Good luck.
[08:13] <jamesbrose123> Could you show me some example? mhz
[08:13] <jamesbrose123> join #linux
[08:13] <doublehp> Spark edit.preferences.Content "file type" => manage
[08:13] <retour> doublehp: what do you mean go back console?? telinit 1?
[08:13] <doublehp> retour: CTRL+ALT+f2
[08:13] <Spark> doublehp: are you talking about gnome? i'm not running gnome...
[08:14] <darwin81> I have a Realtek RTL8139 Ethernet controller. Network Setting detects a wired connection and appears to be connected, but I can't get online or ping my router or a website.
[08:14] <mhz`> hey spark, would you be interested in a free/smaller pdf reader then acrobat?
[08:14] <mhz`> http://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/desklinux/
[08:14] <herbaliser> hmm there is a package for ruby :)
[08:14] <doublehp> spark you were talking about firefox
[08:14] <herbaliser> problem solved
[08:14] <Spark> ah from inside firefox, ok
[08:14] <mike4479> Hi guys how you delete a user group with root please?
[08:14] <vox754> dimas__, mmm... As far as I know it only allows you to watch TV and save clips and pictures, it is not a complete application like MythTV.
[08:14] <dropety> darwin81: are your nic leds lighting?
[08:14] <craigbass1976> mike4479, groupdel
[08:14] <Typwn> darwin81: Darwin I had the same problem lol. You have to shut off your modem and router for 30seconds to get a new IP for your comp.
[08:14] <Spark> doublehp: it's not listed in there, and i can't add or delete any of the ones that are
[08:14] <doublehp> mike4479: groupdel
[08:15] <mike4479> craigbass1976: thanks
[08:15] <Spark> doublehp: there is only stuff for the plugins
[08:15] <Typwn> darwin81: It worked for me anyway.
[08:15] <mike4479> doublehp: thnaks
[08:15] <kloske> How can I burn a VCD
[08:15] <rhys> Guess nobody has a solution to my problem? :P
[08:15] <craigbass1976> mike4479, sho 'nuff
[08:15] <darwin81> dropety, The NIC is built into the mobo and it has no LEDs.
[08:15] <Typwn> rhys: Whats the problem?
[08:16] <rhys> Hey there. Does anyone know why my windows open off-screen? I think it has something to do with Compiz-Fusion because it works fine when disabled. Not sure why it started doing it, because it worked fine a couple of days ago. Example of what I mean is here, check the terminal: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Rhys120/problem-1.png?t=1184090847
[08:16] <doublehp> kloske: cdrecord, or graveman
[08:16] <ziggy> Is there any place where I can download msgsm32.acm?
[08:16] <mike4479> craigbass1976: groupdel: cannot remove user's primary group
[08:16] <mhz`> spark, http://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/desklinux/ ...that's if you want a simplified/smaller version of acrobat
[08:16] <mediahunter> here is a dumb queston
[08:16] <mediahunter> why would ubuntu allow a virus scanner as a add on
[08:16] <Typwn> darwin81: I have the same setup. The way I got it working was shutting down the comp, unplugging the modem and router and letting them power cycle.
[08:16] <lordlucan> I can't seem to get Persistence working with Ubuntu 7.04....can anyone help?
[08:16] <mediahunter> when i thought they did not exist in linux
[08:16] <dropety> darwin81: but where you connect the cable there are leds, right?
[08:16] <dimas__> vox754 how you scan the channels? i only been able to see myself on the screen from my cam and i tought i cam use it to transfer the display to perhaps flash player which i am been having trouble displaying my video...i have ov51x and using ov19
[08:17] <craigbass1976> mike4479, well, you'll have to chage that users primary group forst, or delete them
[08:17] <doublehp> retour: I think you should reconfigure X, but when LCD is on
[08:17] <Spark> mhz`: what i want is to configure how pdf files are opened in firefox
[08:17] <dropety> darwin81: or on the router/switch side there are perhaps leds?
[08:17] <Typwn> rhys: I'm not sure really. In Windows when I had that problem, it was because of Video Card drivers.
[08:17] <javb> any guide or discussion place for asterisk - ubuntu server combination?
[08:17] <Spark> firefox doesn't allow configuration of mime types except those associated with plugins, as far as i can see
[08:17] <Spark> mhz`: i.e., only .swf, .avi, etc
[08:17] <rhys> Ah, right. :P
[08:17] <CaptainM> mediahunter, at the moment there are very litle (or none, not sure) harmfull viruses for linux. There's still the chance of infecting a windows machine though.
[08:18] <rhys> I'll make a post on the forum and see if anyone has anything. Thanks. :)
[08:18] <darwin81> dropety, no there aren't (it's an old PC). I'm gonna try what Typwn said and I'll get back to you.
[08:18] <Spark> /etc/gnome/defaults.list points pdf to evince.desktop, but i don't have evince installed i think
[08:18] <mhz`> Spark, that's a seperate app...in case you needed a different solution then viewing in firefox
[08:18] <mediahunter> i gotcha
[08:18] <Spark> so that's not ther giht place
[08:18] <mediahunter> thanks
[08:18] <Typwn> rhys: Good luck.
[08:18] <mike4479> craigbass1976: ok I see thanks agan is there a command that would list all the user belonging to that group
[08:18] <lordlucan> I can't seem to get Persistence working with my LiveCD....can anyone help :(???
[08:18] <craigbass1976> cat /etc/group
[08:18] <Spark> mhz`: i can always wget it and run it myself, but that's not the solution
[08:18] <craigbass1976> mike4479, cat /etc/group
[08:18] <mike4479> craigbass1976: ok thanks man
[08:19] <vox754> dimas__, well it has a few options, but I'm not sure it can do what you want. Read "man xawtv" you need to get a menu, and then use the tool "scantv" to create a file which contains the channels which you put in /home/user/.xawtv
[08:19] <zphinx> Anyone else running webmin on ubuntu? and have no problem with postfix?
[08:19] <lan1g1r0> hi everyone...
[08:19] <likmout> grim76 u still therte
[08:20] <ToruX> re
[08:20] <retour> doublehp: It works under consoles 1 to 6! BUT only on VGA output still blind on Digital is it normal?
[08:20] <dimas__> vox754 thanks ...let me see the help menu
[08:21] <zphinx> Anyone familiar with postfix + webmin?
[08:21] <vox754> dimas__, xawtv uses the Motif interface with xaw (Athena widgets)  an essentially identical application is "motv" which has GTK1 interface.
[08:21] <doublehp> retour: I never used digital; now, you shall save your xorg.conf, and find the CLI utility of Ubuntu to generate a new one; distro scripts will propose you to re-discover the hardware
[08:21] <dropety> my wallpaper is not auto-loading at restart and I have no right-click menu. Any suggestions where to look?
[08:21] <magnetron> dropety: are you running beryl?
[08:22] <dropety> no, it was a hog, removed it
[08:22] <doublehp> retour: the debian way "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", but, you shall ask for "the Ubuntu way"
[08:22] <dimas__> vox754 so i have to download xaw?
[08:22] <retour> doublehp: Under different distro I simply used xorgconf to do it under console but what magic command I have use in ubuntu?
[08:22] <lan1g1r0> i installed fedore and mandriva after ubuntu and neither of them saw it as an os and thus not available via grub
[08:23] <vox754> dimas__, what?  "sudo aptitude install xawtv" and you have everything
[08:23] <lan1g1r0> not to mention a slew of other problems with their boot options
[08:23] <doublehp> retour: oh, if you have already configured LCD for an other distro, just copy the file :)
[08:23] <dropety> i use xcompmgr butr when i kill it there is still no rightclick. ANyway i don't start in xcompmgr but manually start it after login settles
[08:23] <doublehp> retour: thats why I always backup /etc :)
[08:24] <lan1g1r0> without wiping clean my ubuntu installation, is there a way to install just the grub portion?
[08:24] <lan1g1r0> *reinstall
[08:24] <canen> hello. does ubuntu come with PPC version?
[08:24] <doublehp> retour: ( I backup everything any way, but /etc have been the first thing Iearnt to arch )
[08:24] <vox754> !tv > dimas__
[08:24] <ca1> why is my printer (lexmark x83) not automatically detected when I click add printer?
[08:24] <magnetron> !grub | lan1g1r0
[08:24] <doublehp> canen: dont think so
[08:24] <magnetron> !ppc | canen
[08:24] <retour> doublehp: nah was some time ago! Just example how I did it. So whats the magic word for Ubuntu to get into X11 config?
[08:24] <flagman_css> hello
[08:24] <dimas__> vox754 i guess i have everyting installed then
[08:24] <ubotu> lan1g1r0: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:24] <ubotu> canen: PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[08:24] <canen> ok, thanks
[08:25] <doublehp> retour: (20:22:37) doublehp_f: retour: the debian way "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", but, you shall ask for "the Ubuntu way"
[08:25] <Kjellviz> hi there, i need to backup some stuff from my home folder, so ive connected a external USB harddrive, ubuntu mounts and lets me review and play whats on it, but i cannot copy anything on to it, any ideas ?
[08:25] <dimas__> vox754 but you said i have to have something else?
[08:25] <retour> doublehp: ask here or start googling?
[08:25] <scorp123> Kjellviz: what's the file system on that drive?
[08:25] <ca1> Is there a list of supported printers by ubuntu?
[08:25] <magnetron> Kjellviz: is it a NTFS hard drive?
[08:25] <mhz`> ca1, a lot are supported out of the box
[08:26] <doublehp> retour: up to now, you know console works, what means ... it's possible. Just need to find the right conf. No, ask here to other people !me
[08:26] <Kjellviz> scorp123: i thought it'd be FAT, but im starting to wonder if its NTFS ><
[08:26] <magnetron> !hardware | ca1
[08:26] <ubotu> ca1: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[08:26] <vox754> dimas__, no, I was just saying you need to use the "scantv" tool, to scan and save the channels in a file "man scantv"
[08:26] <Kjellviz> how can i check in ubuntu ?
[08:26] <scorp123> Kjellviz:
[08:26] <scorp123> Kjellviz: type "mount" into a console
[08:26] <ZeldaLink> Hello, someone knows because telnet does not allow me to connect on a serveur example pop3? instead with netcat I do not have problems
[08:26] <Kjellviz> ok
[08:26] <dimas__> vox754 sorry thanks..lol let me check
[08:26] <doublehp> retour: did you try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or similar packages ?
[08:26] <scorp123> Kjellviz: it will spit out a list of all mounted filesytems and then state their type too
[08:27] <retour> People what is the magic word to configure X11 under console?
[08:27] <mhz`> zelda, what's your issue?
[08:27] <Kjellviz> scorp123: its NTFS allrite
[08:27] <scorp123> !ntfs | Kjellviz
[08:27] <ubotu> Kjellviz: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:27] <magnetron> !ntfs-3g > Kjellviz
[08:27] <Kjellviz> !ntfs-3g
[08:27] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[08:27] <Kjellviz> thanks =)
[08:27] <ZeldaLink> mhz`: edgy
[08:27] <scorp123> Kjellviz: I suggest you format that drive
[08:28] <vox754> dimas__, I only use xawtv because I cannot use other programs; for some reason my card doesn't work. So you should try with other tv applications first.
[08:28] <Kjellviz> cannot
[08:28] <Kjellviz> its filled to the rim with datra
[08:28] <Kjellviz> data*
[08:28] <W9ZEB> how would i go abou reseting the USB driver, and all USB defices
[08:28] <W9ZEB> devices
[08:28] <retour> doublehp: xserver-org is not installed. Thats what it gives me
[08:28] <doublehp> Kjellviz: 3g is very nice, but consume very much CPU. It's slow, but efficient. Still, it may fail if FS have been build under Vista. If you can, format under XP or Me.
[08:28] <Hyarion2> hi guys, after upgrading to Fiesty my wireless adapter no longer works, but it does show up in lspci and iwconfig, any ideas?
[08:28] <scorp123> Kjellviz: NTFS has no ideas about Linux-style file permissions, so it's not really useful for backups as all the permissions are likely to get screwed up.
[08:29] <cdaelior> olaaa
[08:29] <W9ZEB> randomly my keyboard goes wonkey.  Where it seems to drop keystroke, and types at about 16wpm or less
[08:29] <magnetron> W9ZEB: tell the channel more about which problem you have
[08:29] <doublehp> retour: try a few names, like xorg* or xserver* (use completion to find them).
[08:29] <dimas__> vox754 i like xawtv
[08:29] <cdaelior> ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy alguien
[08:29] <Kjellviz> scorp123: yeah i know, the disc is pre-linux for me
[08:29] <mhz`> Hyarion, what kind of wlan card?
[08:29] <Hyarion2> mhz` Linksys 54g, Broadcom 4306
[08:30] <vox754> dimas__, ugly!
[08:30] <mhz`> its broadcom, hang on...i have a 4318
[08:30] <mhz`> let's see
[08:30] <mhz`> !bcfwcutter
[08:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bcfwcutter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:30] <darwin81__> dropety and Typwn : I tried what Typwn said and it doesn't seem to have worked.
[08:30] <vox754> Hyarion2, if you were using ndiswrapper you may need to recompile the module.
[08:30] <Typwn> darwin81__: Hmmm...
[08:30] <mhz`> !bcm43xx-fwcutter
[08:31] <mhz`> hyarion, install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[08:31] <Kjellviz> scorp123: will i need to remount the drive after enabling write support ?
[08:31] <dimas__> vox754 lol
[08:31] <magnetron> !botabuse > mhz`
[08:31] <mhz`> system > synaptics > search for bcm43xx-fwcutter
[08:31] <mhz`> bot abuse?
[08:31] <mhz`> um no?
[08:31] <Hyarion2> I think it just worked out of the box with 6.10, I'll try fwcutter, thanks
[08:31] <scorp123> Kjellviz: you should unmount it first before doing any funny manipulations with it.
[08:31] <dimas__> vox754 just like me lol
[08:31] <Kjellviz> ok
[08:31] <Kjellviz> brb
[08:31] <Kjellviz> ^^
[08:31] <mhz`> Hyarion if not there's another link i'm trying to dig up
[08:32] <mhz`> i had to use a combo of both
[08:32] <loca|host> i've just installed Feisty on my new PC, and it doesnt slow down the CPU fans when the system starts, it's like if Ubuntu doesnt know if the CPU is cold so it must slow down the fans, and that began to be really very noisy
[08:32] <Typwn> darwin81__: I might not be able to help then, new to Linux myself just had a similar problem.
[08:32] <sjaakmans> Hello
[08:32] <BillyBeans> which is more stable kde or gnome?
[08:32] <magnetron> mhz`: don't search for factoids in this channel, use the ones you know exist. use a /msg to ubotu to search for new keywoards, please
[08:32] <sjaakmans> When installing nvidia-glx-new drivers i get this error: http://pastebin.com/m5e9ef1ba
[08:32] <zphinx> Anyone here with experience with webmin on a ubuntu system?
[08:32] <W9ZEB> ok...  Notebook computer.  The built in keyboard works 100%  theUSB keyboard usualy works fine after boot....  but at some point afterwards becomes lathargic.  The External USB mouse does the ame,  where The onboard touch pad continues to wo 100%
[08:32] <hendrixski> BillyBeans, they're bot extremely awesome
[08:32] <scorp123> loca|host: is that a laptop?
[08:32] <BillyBeans> which though?
[08:32] <mhz`> um, i thought i spelled it right
[08:32] <mhz`> get a life man, it was 2 statements being sent to it
[08:32] <sjaakmans> Does somebody knows the answer for this?
[08:32] <mhz`> so relax.
[08:32] <dropety> darwin81__: I had exactly the same issue with the RLT8139 and almost gave up. then I booted winxp and it said it was connected at 10mbit. Shortly after it said 100mbit. then I rebooted in ubuntu and it was fine. you can also check if the data it evolving on the lo path iso the eth0.
[08:33] <MSG4> does ubuntu has the hardwaresupports for ASUS P5W DH Deluxe motherboard??
[08:33] <mhz`> Hyarion2, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[08:33] <darwin81___> dropety, the problem with that is that I'm not dual booting
[08:33] <vox754> dimas__, I recommend you to launch xawtv from the terminal, that way you can see warnings and error messages printed to the console. Do it like "xawtv &"
[08:33] <hendrixski> BillyBeans, it's a matter of personal preference.  some people find one to be more stable than the other, but how you use it is probably the biggest factor
[08:33] <mhz`> look at that after trying fwcutter
[08:33] <dropety> darwin81__: i think the win drv re-initiated something in the card that the 8139cp and 8139too don't
[08:33] <magnetron> !hardware > MSG4   (plz read private msg from ubotu)
[08:34] <rockets> Do linksys wifi cards work in linux, without ndiswrapper or using the restricted drive manager?
[08:34] <loca|host> scorp123, it's a barebone PC: http://uk.shopping.com/xPF-MicroStar-MSI-MEGA-865-Deluxe-Barebone-PC-S478-I865G-eith-6in1-Cardreader-and-WLAN
[08:34] <kr00lplatinum> can anyone here help me understand these directions? http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/06/20/logitech-g5-review-under-linux/
[08:34] <hendrixski> does anyone recommend a good tutorial for setting up an schroot?
[08:34] <vox754> rockets, it depends in the "chipset" not the generic brand name
[08:34] <vox754> !chroot
[08:34] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[08:34] <rockets> vox754, ok well can you reccomend one?
[08:35] <darwin81___> dropety, maybe I'll try running the windows driver with Ndiswrapper (I'm not dual booting)
[08:35] <switchcat> whats the command to apt-get the Xfce window manager and all associated packages installed under xubuntu? I'm currently running regular ubuntu, and want to try something that might be a little lighter on the processor
[08:35] <BillyBeans> my next door neighbor told me that Gnome was for pussies is he right??
[08:35] <sjaakmans> No
[08:35] <W9ZEB> switchcat: xubuntu-desktop iirc.
[08:35] <PriceChild> BillyBeans, please don't troll.
[08:35] <W9ZEB> switchcat: it's close to that.
[08:35] <hendrixski> lol... vox754 I messaged ubotu with !schroot and of course I didn't try !chroot ... lol
[08:35] <dropety> darwin81__:..As I said, I almost gave up. But the lights are very important. it shows that the cable-interface is somply not up. there is this ndiswrapper which uses the winxp driver. It was on my list as a last resort.
[08:35] <BillyBeans> im sorry
[08:35] <dimas__> vox754 changing the subject...do you know if there is a patch to have a video display on flash player from a camera using ov51x (ov19)?
[08:35] <vox754> rockets, atheros, intel, broadcom,
[08:35] <CaptainM> kr00lplatinum, what don't you understand?
[08:35] <fusheh> BillyBeans: lmao
[08:35] <hendrixski> BillyBeans, IT'S A PERSONAL PREFERENCE
[08:36] <vox754> hendrixski, hoy hoy hoy
[08:36] <BillyBeans> hendrix what do run?
[08:36] <rockets> vox754, broadcom's NEVER work natively!
[08:36] <scorp123> loca|host: mostly laptops --but desktops and barebones too-- can have a messed-up BIOS or ACPI instruction set, so Linux can't 100% reliably read the status of the CPU, of the fans or the temperature .... so it can happen that the fans run all the time or not at all .... I suggest you Google around, maybe there is an ACPI fix for your particular PC model?
[08:36] <rockets> vox754, they always need ndiswrapper
[08:36] <kr00lplatinum> CaptainM: I don't understand where i find those instructions
[08:36] <darwin81___> dropety, It's an old computer I've had for a while and I'm almost sure it has no LEDs on the NIC
[08:36] <BillyBeans> is anyone in hear running kde?
[08:36] <hendrixski> BillyBeans, I run Gnome most of the time... but XFCE for a lot of my development
[08:36] <CaptainM> kr00lplatinum, what do you mean? I don't get it
[08:36] <PriceChild> BillyBeans, #ubuntu-offtopic please.
[08:37] <switchcat> W9ZEB - thanks, that looks just about right
[08:37] <BillyBeans> PriceChild, stop being so rude,please
[08:37] <vox754> rockets, mmm... no you are wrong. Broadcom work, but not at full 54 Mbps, they may work okay at 11Mbps
[08:37] <kr00lplatinum> CaptainM: I don't understand this: As a USB HID device, it already works in Linux; however, to get the full use out of the mouse (such as being able to use the tilt function correctly) edit your/etc/X11/xorg.confs InputDevice section for your mouse to say:
[08:37] <dropety> darwin81___: but the routerside perhaps does bave leds..?
[08:37] <rockets> vox754, incorrect. I have a bc card. You either need ndiswrapper or you need to use fw-cutter/wl-apasta, which work really poorly
[08:37] <hendrixski> vox754,   :-( ubotu's link on chroots is for dchroot not schroot  :-(
[08:37] <switchcat> although it seems to be getting vim and abiword.. I have no clue why it would go fetch those just for the desktop
[08:37] <BillyBeans> what channel is ubuntu effect?
[08:37] <rockets> vox754, they definitely aren't plug and play
[08:38] <CaptainM> kr00lplatinum, alright. in the terminal type gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:38] <YoMedia> BillyBeans: Ubuntu Desktop Effects channel?
[08:38] <darwin81___> I have three computers connected to that router, two through WLAN and one wired, Including the laptop I'm using right now.
[08:38] <vox754> dimas__, no, I know little about cameras, no help with that.
[08:38] <darwin81___> dropety
[08:38] <MSG4> About this
[08:38] <MSG4> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core_2_Duo_Support
[08:38] <hendrixski> BillyBeans, #ubuntu-effects I think
[08:38] <YoMedia> #ubuntu-effects
[08:38] <CaptainM> kr00lplatinum, that should bring up a dialog asking for your password and a text file
[08:38] <MSG4> Random Freezes on 965P motherboards? Is it fixed?
[08:39] <d4rkmonkey> Hi, the built in Optical drive on my HP Compaq 6710b doesn't work. I've never gotten it to work, and I thought that there was NO trace of it on my computer. With someone's help, I found it in lshw, but it was much different than its supposed to be. its the one IDE interface, but in my lshw it says *-ide UNCLAIMED. Why does it say this, and how can I fix it? I've already checked my BIOS
[08:39] <YoMedia> Sorry, hendrixski: YOu got there first :)
[08:39] <dropety> darwin81___: leds?
[08:39] <dimas__> vox754 thanks anyways...later...take care...thks
[08:39] <kr00lplatinum> CaptainM: ok i'm here
[08:40] <IceLink> Hey there. I've got gnome but i installed kde afterwards, now, when booting, "kubuntu" is displayed and everything is in kubuntu-colors and so on, what could i do for making it more ubuntu-like again?
[08:40] <sjaakmans> Does somebody have experience with ati and nvidia on ubuntu?
[08:40] <hendrixski> YoMedia, nothing wrong with multiple people giving the right answer... with all the join/part trafic on this channel people can miss the first answer
[08:40] <CaptainM> kr00lplatinum, find a section starting with; Section "InputDevice"
[08:40] <magnetron> !ati | sjaakmans
[08:40] <ubotu> sjaakmans: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:40] <sbrath> EADG_: ping
[08:40] <darwin81___> With Ndiswrapper is it usually better to use the WinXP or the Win2k drivers?
[08:40] <zphinx> Anyone here with experience on postfix and webmin?
[08:40] <kr00lplatinum> CaptainM: i see that
[08:40] <zphinx> nder ubuntu 7.04 that is
[08:40] <sjaakmans> I get this error: http://pastebin.com/m5e9ef1ba any suggestions?
[08:41] <CaptainM> kr00lplatinum, copy the text from the article (the big chunk) and replace the section in the texfile with it
[08:41] <vox754> rockets, well I've talked to numerous broadcom users, and there is the bcm43xx module so I recommend it, but I don't own one so I don't know from personal experience.
[08:41] <vox754> darwin81___, XP, but yo may try also 2000
[08:41] <mhz`> rockets, try bcmfw-cutterxx
[08:41] <pol1> hi i am on the live dvd 'ubuntu ultimate he ask me the user name and pasword for change session please help THANKS
[08:41] <mhz`> then if that doesn't work look at:
[08:41] <CaptainM> kr00lplatinum, the text from the article also starts with section "inputdevice"
[08:42] <d4rkmonkey> Can anyone help me with a hardware compatibility issue? I finally found the hardware that doesn't work, in lshw, but it says "*-ide UNCLAIMED" on it, and I looked at the lshw output of someone with the same computer and it was just "*-ide" and then the rest of the information. in lshw mine is also missing LOTS of the information
[08:42] <CaptainM> kr00lplatinum, after that save and exit, that should be it
[08:42] <Abhi123> guys anybody have experience setting up jboss server on ubuntu?
[08:42] <kr00lplatinum> sweet
[08:42] <pol1> hi i am on the live dvd 'ubuntu ultimate he ask me the user name and pasword for change session please help THANKS
[08:43] <mhz`> rockets,  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[08:43] <kr00lplatinum> CaptainM: ok i still can't get the back button to work though
[08:43] <rockets> vox754, yes the bcm43xx module doesnt work without he firmware
[08:43] <mhz`> what kinda broadcom rockets?
[08:43] <rockets> mhz`, I know, but I need one that runs natively. The person who's computer I'm installing it on is in a building who's internet is down.
[08:43] <pol1> hi i am on the live dvd 'ubuntu ultimate he ask me the user name and pasword for change session please help THANKS
[08:44] <mhz`> ahhhhh, touche
[08:44] <CaptainM> kr00lplatinum, alright type gedit in the terminal again
[08:44] <darwin81___> Also, what debs should I download to install Ndiswrapper on a computer that's not online
[08:44] <Abhi123> any guys working on tomcat or jboss on ubuntu server?
[08:44] <kr00lplatinum> CaptainM: i'm there
[08:44] <vox754> rockets, obviously, but that is the point to use both the firmware and the module, so it may not be such a big complication after all.
[08:44] <rockets> vox754, right but the firmware isnt included. i.e. its not just plug it in and it works
[08:44] <CaptainM> kr00lplatinum, copy and paste the pointer = [whole lot off numbers]  part of the article
[08:45] <rockets> I've set it up before.
[08:45] <makaraki> hi there people, I am a newbie ( sorry for probably make waste few minutes of your time)  but I'm having several problems with my wifi connection
[08:45] <julemo> juanilmontoro@hotmail.com
[08:45] <rockets> Uh mine is a Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card but that tells you nothing really
[08:45] <CaptainM> kr00lplatinum, and save it as .Xmodmap in your home folder (don't forget the dot at the beginning, this makes it a hidden file)
[08:45] <mhz`> any luck searching google to download it to your box then burning?
[08:45] <makaraki> first of all I want nto reinstall the network package
[08:45] <gowansu> hi
[08:45] <rockets> since 1390 is a dell model number
[08:46] <mhz`> then going to the box w/ out the inet
[08:46] <mhz`> modprobe bcm43xx
[08:46] <mhz`> ?
[08:46] <kr00lplatinum> CaptainM: I don't know where to put the numbers.
[08:46] <rockets> mhz`, not good enough, no firmware
[08:46] <vox754> rockets, mmm... Is bcm43xx-fwcutter included in the CD?
[08:46] <flavioribeiro> how can i install just grub with ubuntu 6.06 live cd?!
[08:46] <CaptainM> kr00lplatinum, have you opened a new textfile? using gedit or something?
[08:46] <ilikec0ws> !grub | flavioribeiro
[08:46] <ubotu> flavioribeiro: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:46] <m0> hello, I don't know why ubuntu does this, but Whenever I logout or idle for many hours. My wireless connection shuts off...
[08:46] <mhz`> vox, get it from synaptics... system > administration > synaptics
[08:46] <rockets> vox754, for my wifi card? No. Its built into my laptop. And it doesnt matter. This isnt about my card!
[08:46] <W9ZEB> I'm searching for assistance with Ubuntu 7.04 X86...  Notebook computer.  The built in keyboard works 100%  theUSB keyboard usualy works fine after boot....  but at some point afterwards becomes lathargic.  The External USB mouse does the ame,  where The onboard touch pad continues to wo 100%
[08:47] <Pirate_Hunter> how cna i know i im using kde? i know it sounds weird but im making my Feisty more my style and some of the themes require kde and i dont know if im actually using it or not
[08:47] <rockets> This is about a card for somebody else!
[08:47] <mhz`> do a search for bcm43xx-fwcutter
[08:47] <rockets> My card already works great with ndiswrapper
[08:47] <kr00lplatinum> CaptainM: i'm a n00b i don't know anything about ubuntu
[08:47] <rockets> Ok but broadcom is besides the point!
[08:47] <makaraki> mm I had a look using dpkg -l "*network" to have a look if I could find the network packages to reinstall
[08:47] <m0> When my wireless ocnnectoin shuts off, I cannot scan any ranges, and I cannot connect to any Wireless signal. The onyl way for my to fix that i if I restart my laptop.
[08:47] <vox754> rockets, mhz` we are going loony!
[08:47] <mhz`> vox, you in the same boat as him? the box isn't online?
[08:48] <kr00lplatinum> CaptainM: i save it as a "~/.Xmodmap"
[08:48] <younghacker>  the apache server, the error message at  the end of the apt-get process for the LAMP packages is Apache is broken so we will not restart it
[08:48] <younghacker> how can i fix this?
[08:48] <darnir> is there a terminal based system monitor that isn't top?
[08:48] <CaptainM> the "~/" part means in your home folder
[08:48] <CaptainM> so save it as .Xmodmap in your home folder
[08:48] <vox754> mhz`, rockets it doesn't matter, I ust want to know if bcm43xx-fwcutter is included in the CD.
[08:49] <rockets> vox754, the cd for what? My wifi card?
[08:49] <mhz`> vox, not sure..
[08:49] <younghacker> I tried to install apache2 php installed successfully and MySQL also did, Apache2 is broken
[08:49] <younghacker> how do i fix it
[08:49] <rockets> There IS no cd.
[08:49] <mhz`> i just grabbed it from the repos
[08:49] <mhz`> easier for me
[08:49] <vox754> rockets, mhz` the UBUNTU CD aaaargh
[08:49] <rockets> There is a dell driver to download from the website, thats all
[08:49] <rockets> vox754, oh. Not sure but I dont think so
[08:49] <kr00lplatinum> CaptainM: OK i saved it, is there anything else i have to do?
[08:49] <mhz`> i'd say the same as rockets...i don't think its included
[08:49] <Pirate_Hunter> how cna i know i im using kde? i know it sounds weird but im making my Feisty more my style and some of the themes require kde and i dont know if im actually using it or not.. im being serious heer I dont know
[08:49] <YoMedia> I was wondering if anyone here uses Banshee? I like Banshee over Rhythmbox for a number of reasons, mainly because it's what I'm used to, (I am coming from openSUSE) and it's cleaner and has more features that I like. I was wondering everyones opinion.
[08:50] <mhz`> just use synaptics :)
[08:50] <rockets> i think i found a card
[08:50] <younghacker> can someone help me install apache?
[08:50] <CaptainM> kr00lplatinum, yes type xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap in the terminal
[08:51] <kr00lplatinum> CaptainM: great, it now gives me a warning what do i do next
[08:51] <younghacker> anybody familiar with fixing broken packages that are installed i need to have apache working
[08:51] <younghacker> apache is broken
[08:51] <CaptainM> kr00lplatinum, what is the warning
[08:51] <mhz`> younghacker, try completely removing it and reinstalling?
[08:51] <W9ZEB> I'm searching for assistance with Ubuntu 7.04 X86...  Notebook computer.  The built in keyboard works 100% under all cicumstanes,  However  the USB keyboard usualy works fine after boot....  but at some point afterwards becomes lathargic.  The External USB mouse does the same,  where The onboard touch pad like the onboard keyboard works 100%
[08:51] <vox754> Pirate_Hunter, I don't know so I'll just laugh at you... ha ha ha ho ho ho
[08:51] <kr00lplatinum> CaptainM: Warning: Only changing the first 20 of 9 buttons
[08:51] <younghacker> how do i do i remove with apt? (don't laugh at me i'm a windoZe guy)
[08:52] <younghacker> apt-get remove?
[08:52] <mhz`> sudo apt remove apache
[08:52] <Pirate_Hunter> vox754: what kind of answer is that, whats the point of you being here kiddo
[08:52] <younghacker> ohh
[08:52] <scorp123> Pirate_Hunter: oh dear, you again? :-)
[08:52] <Pirate_Hunter> scorp123: lol
[08:52] <younghacker> cool thanks i'll try now
[08:52] <mhz`> might be apt-get remove, lemme check
[08:52] <mhz`> i don't use apt often
[08:52] <magnetron> younghacker: sudo apt-get remove, or you could just use Synaptic, the graphical frontend
[08:52] <fusheh> mhz`: it's apt-get remove
[08:52] <younghacker> cool man
[08:52] <mhz`> there ya go
[08:52] <younghacker> thanks a trillion
[08:52] <younghacker> brb
[08:53] <fusheh> younghacker: If the package broke though, it should have trouble removing it I believe o.o
[08:53] <CaptainM> kr00lplatinum, I'm only following the instructions from the article :P if this doesn't work for you i can't help you. sorry
[08:53] <ruben> Hi, using xterm, what is the way to copy the 'scroll up' text wihtout a mouse?
[08:53] <Pirate_Hunter> here is a simple question when installing Feisty does it install KDE by default? thats simple and easy... yes/no
[08:53] <kr00lplatinum> CaptainM: what should i do next?
[08:53] <mhz`> Pirate, no
[08:53] <mhz`> gnome is default
[08:53] <fusheh> Pirate_Hunter: No it doesnt, gnome by default
[08:53] <mhz`> gnome is sexy
[08:53] <kr00lplatinum> CaptainM: cool
[08:53] <mhz`> i like it
[08:53] <fsckr> I am having an issue with Twinview on Ubuntu here is my xorg http://pastebin.ca/612958 both monitors are able to do 1280x1024 at 75hz.  For the life of me I cannot get the other monitor working at all.  Here is the error I get in Xorg.log http://pastebin.ca/612961
[08:53] <hendrixski> this is really weird.. I'm not finding ANYTHING useful about schroots on google... it's all about dchroots
[08:53] <younghacker> no it actually did remove it,, now i am trying to reinstall apache2
[08:53] <scorp123> Pirate_Hunter: no, Feisty uses GNOME ... obviously
[08:53] <Pirate_Hunter> fusheh: thank you that wasnt so hard
[08:53] <younghacker> hope this works
[08:54] <mhz`> hend, do you mean chroot?
[08:54] <fsckr> any assistance of course will be appreciated
[08:54] <ilikec0ws> Pirate_Hunter: Kubuntu for KDE Xubuntu for XFCE Ubuntu for GNOME
[08:54] <Pirate_Hunter> scorp123 :yet it took you this long to answer that from my previous question, your slacking ;-)
[08:54] <scorp123> Pirate_Hunter: unless of course you installed KDE later on which is possible?
[08:54] <Pirate_Hunter> scorp123: nah i ahvent
[08:54] <YoMedia> What do you guys think of Banshee Music Player, comared to Rhythmbox?
[08:54] <dxdt> yeah you can install it later by installing the metapackage kubuntu-desktop
[08:55] <dxdt> or just kde if you just want the base
[08:55] <scorp123> Pirate_Hunter: yeah, I suck at multi-tasking. I need a CPU upgrade. A second head maybe and three more brains? And eight arms and 80 fingers so I can type more rapidly in multiple channels ... :-)
[08:55] <mhz`> lemme go try and install amarok again
[08:55] <mhz`> anyone ever experience it freezing when compiling the library?
[08:55] <mhz`> it starts and gets up to 57% then stalls
[08:56] <CaptainM> kr00lplatinum, it does change 9 buttons, isn't your back button one of those 9 by any chance?
[08:56] <Pirate_Hunter> scorp123: hmm thats would be  interesting, next thing you know schools will be trying to dissect you
[08:56] <rdv> hi, i'm using 7.04 with Beryl, and when i create additional workspaces and switch to them, the Gnome panels disappear.  is there a setting that prevents this from happening?
[08:56] <pike__> rdv: can you just pkill gnome-panel ? after the respawn id think it would be ok
[08:57] <BrightEyes`> how can i configure my microphone?
[08:57] <scorp123> Pirate_Hunter: ... or I go "Alien" on them and I dissect the schools??? muhahahahaha :-)
[08:57] <mhz`> brb
[08:57] <Pirate_Hunter> scorp123: lol isnt this what were doing considered spam and not allowed here but still lol
[08:57] <yigal> does anyone know if it is possible to easily set up a mail server and use it to send all of the email messages I want to my pda?
[08:57] <kr00lplatinum> CaptainM: you still there?
[08:57] <rdv> pike__: will try
[08:58] <CaptainM> kr00lplatinum, jup
[08:58] <scorp123> Pirate_Hunter: spam? No ... but off-topic, yes :-)  Unfortunately. So please ask something else so we can get back to business again ...
[08:58] <m0> yigal: smtp?
[08:58] <yigal> i have a few email addresses and I want to harvest and crop the emails i don't use and then send/push the ones i want to my pda, a black berry
[08:58] <younghacker> ok it says it's installed now after i do apt-cache policy, does anyone know how to start apache server?
[08:58] <yigal> m0: this would be fine
[08:58] <rdv> pike__: that did the trick, thanks
[08:59] <yigal> m0: is it practically doable?
[08:59] <kr00lplatinum> CaptainM: ok this is really funny, i restarted the OS. The back button doesn't work! however, the tilt button makes web pages go back or forth.
[08:59] <m0> yigal: you could install an smtp server on yout machine
[08:59] <dxdt> younghacker: it usually starts automatically after install, but otherwise you can do /etc/init.d/apache start or apache2 if that is what you have
[08:59] <yigal> m0: sure, is it difficult?
[08:59] <Pirate_Hunter> scorp123: if thats the case how do I access terminal through the ubuntu 7.04 live Cd i need to run fsck on sda2
[08:59] <scorp123> Pirate_Hunter: open it from the menus?
[08:59] <scorp123> Pirate_Hunter: Applications > Accessories > Terminal ...
[08:59] <kr00lplatinum> Anyone know how to set up beryl/emerald?
[09:00] <praveen> heh how to check if my web server is running
[09:00] <mhz`> http://127.0.0.1
[09:00] <younghacker> thanx a million that started it ,,,
[09:00] <yigal> m0: that sounds very nice, exactly.  so i could use procmail to sort my messages and then send them to a "black berry" account i could make
[09:00] <scorp123> praveen: netstat -ln
[09:00] <younghacker> wow u dudes rock
[09:00] <younghacker> =)
[09:00] <mhz`> praveen, http://127.0.0.1
[09:00] <younghacker> brb
[09:00] <CaptainM> kr00lplatinum, well that's as good as it gets with my help :P in the future you can just do ctr - alt - backspace  instead of rebooting (most of the time)
[09:00] <djcabz> Is anyone else experiencing occassional system lockouts running feisty?    I also see messages about being "dazed and confused" (great movie) but recovering...  Ubuntu is running on a Dell Inspiron 6000
[09:00] <TaJMoX> Anyone know why I keep getting UDP requests from 192.168.1.1 port 3278x ?  It says Sun-RPC portmap ... dunno what that is or if I should allow it
[09:00] <djcabz> not lockouts, but lock-ups...
[09:00] <m0> yigal: would sendmail be good?
[09:00] <younghacker> can i use my loop back address in the web browser to configure apache?
[09:00] <PriceChild> TaJMoX, I guess that is your router.
[09:00] <fusheh> TaJMoX: Sounds like your router
[09:00] <scorp123> TaJMoX: 192.168.1.1 is obviously from your own network
[09:01] <PriceChild> TaJMoX, it is on your local network (not the internet)
[09:01] <mhz`> configure apache using httpd.conf
[09:01] <TaJMoX> I know its my router
[09:01] <Pirate_Hunter> scorp123: its amazing how I get the obvious answer which I already know, i cant run from ubuntu itself cause the disk is mounted so I need to run it from the CD
[09:01] <mhz`> should be in /etc
[09:01] <TaJMoX> but Should I allow it to get better security?  or will that make my security worse?
[09:01] <fusheh> TaJMoX: I'd allow it then. And google around to see what it is xP
[09:01] <m0> yigal: there are many smtp, apt-cache search smtp
[09:01] <younghacker> right that is the file that initially gave me problems
[09:01] <younghacker> how do i access this ? Gedit?
[09:01] <yigal> m0: i think this would work
[09:01] <mhz`> that is the configuration file for apache
[09:01] <TaJMoX> fusheh it's a portmap... i think it's being exploited
[09:01] <mhz`> gedit or nano
[09:01] <yaustar> Hiya all, I am currently using ubuntu server 6.06 on VMPlayer but having trouble trying to telnet to the server
[09:01] <yigal> mhz`: vim :)
[09:01] <mhz`> depends if you want the pretty or the pico v2
[09:01] <mhz`> yum
[09:01] <gowansu_> hello~Ms. kim
[09:01] <younghacker> ok so nano and the file name or Gedit and the filename
[09:02] <mhz`> i like pico ;)
[09:02] <younghacker> cool
[09:02] <younghacker> brb
[09:02] <mhz`> nano httpd.conf
[09:02] <derenrich> !emacs
[09:02] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[09:02] <yigal> $EDITOR  httpd.conf ?
[09:02] <praveen> k my apache 1.3.34 is runnin but i hav installed 2.5
[09:02] <mhz`> pico is my homeboy from the fbsd days
[09:02] <m0> yigal: basically sme thing that php will access
[09:02] <praveen> how to stop this
[09:02] <younghacker> nano brings up the file as empty
[09:02] <Pirate_Hunter> scorp123: any suggestions
[09:02] <younghacker> no data
[09:02] <Kazabubu> can anyone tell me please where does ubuntu stores the downloaded packages?which file is that
[09:02] <yigal> m0: why do i need php?
[09:02] <Kazabubu> ?
[09:02] <mhz`> hang on, probably not in the right location
[09:02] <yigal> m0: in this case?
[09:03] <m0> yigal: I meant php uses the sendmail function
[09:03] <younghacker> cool
[09:03] <m0> yigal: you could use teapop for pop3 server
[09:03] <scorp123> Pirate_Hunter: sorry dude, I lost you there. I'm on two channels ... which is too much for me. Just repeat what you need to know please. :)
[09:03] <mhz`> younghacker, cd /etc/httpd
[09:03] <mhz`> dir
[09:03] <mhz`> you should see it there
[09:03] <younghacker> ok
[09:03] <younghacker> brb
[09:03] <younghacker> thanks man
[09:03] <yigal> m0: maybe imap server would be better, then i wouldn't even have to store the messages on my pda.
[09:04] <yigal> m0: but you are saying it is possible and not that difficult to get some system to work
[09:04] <Pirate_Hunter> scorp123: i need to run fsck from the ubuntu 7.04 live cd how do I get a shell open/terminal to do that from the CD
[09:04] <yigal> m0: ?
[09:04] <scorp123> Kazabubu: /var/cache/apt/archives
[09:04] <scorp123> Pirate_Hunter: Applications > Accessories > Terminal ...
[09:04] <jokersmild> #ubuntu-florida
[09:04] <praveen> how to stop this
[09:05] <chump> hey guys i've added my printer in cups and it shows up and all that good stuff but when i do a test page it automatically stops the job the printer is on and is ready to rock and roll
[09:05] <praveen> k my apache 1.3.34 is runnin but i hav installed 2.5
[09:05] <younghacker> wow it's not there either,, would it be hidden?
[09:05] <Kazabubu> is it safe to remove then in order to gain some space??
[09:05] <Pirate_Hunter> scorp123: like I said I cnat run it that way, i need to run fsck from the root HD which is mounted, I need to run from the CD otherwise it cna damage the disk (data)
[09:05] <scorp123> Kazabubu: apt-cache clean
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[09:05] <mhz`> younghacker, if its not there then /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf
[09:05] <Kazabubu> ok thanks men
[09:05] <mhz`> you can do a search... places > search for files..
[09:06] <Hazler> Hi all
[09:06] <dxdt> DO NOT fsck a mounted file system.  I made that mistake a week or so again.  (I ignored the warning it gives you thinking how bad could it be... yeah goodbye filesystem and grub...)
[09:06] <mhz`> make sure you change look in folder.. to filesystem
[09:06] <scorp123> Pirate_Hunter: why don't you just follow my instructions? Boot the damn CD, wait until the GUI comes up, then go to the menu: Applications > Accesories > Terminal ....
[09:06] <dxdt> /s/again/ago
[09:06] <scorp123> Pirate_Hunter: I fail to see what's stopping you
[09:06] <fusheh> dxdt: lol!
[09:06] <Hazler> Could anyone hlep me with my game?
[09:06] <Vlet> Anyone know of a text editor that only loads the portion of the file you have open into memory?.. something good for editing VERY large files
[09:07] <Hazler> I really need help with my game, the sound is messed up
[09:07] <dxdt> Vlet: I've done editing of GIGANTIC files in Vim that things like gedit could not open.  (DNA sequences from the gnome project)
[09:07] <m0> yigal: if you would like IMAP then try courier-imap package
[09:07] <Pirate_Hunter> scorp123: rofl have you seen the live CD for 7.04 its not like dapper, it doesnt have a GUI system and it runs differently I cant do that, at least for my installation CD anyway
[09:07] <vox754> dxdt, file size?
[09:07] <dxdt> I don't remember their exact size, but I remember it crashing Gedit.
[09:07] <yigal> m0: i will check it out
[09:07] <Vlet> shall give it a go dxdt; thanks :)
[09:08] <younghacker> wow i juts don't think it's there
[09:08] <Hazler> Anyone play Savage?
[09:08] <mhz`> what version of apache?
[09:08] <scorp123> Pirate_Hunter: of course I have seen the Live CD. It does have a GUI or why else would it be a *LIVE CD* ??
[09:08] <Abhi123> guys anybody had installed sun jdk5c on ubuntu server?
[09:08] <djcabz> ok, so I have read (via google) I'm not the only one seeing the lockup or freeze issue, anyone have more information on what exactly may be the cause or is this one still a mystery?
[09:08] <m0> yigal: take a look at section 12 here: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06_p5
[09:08] <younghacker> ahhh
[09:08] <grim76> likmout: I am back
[09:08] <mhz`> and did you specify any directives on where to install it?
[09:08] <dimas__> does anyone knows what this file does? flashplayer.xpt notice the extension though
[09:08] <gowansu_> hey~miss kil
[09:08] <scorp123> Pirate_Hunter: chances are you were too long in the sun and are mistaking the "Alternate Install CD" with the Live CD?
[09:08] <dxdt> vox754: ummm I think like 100mb or more of plain text.  The max that vim's docs say it can do is 2 GB
[09:08] <Hazler> Hmmm
[09:08] <mhz`> younghacker, what apache version?
[09:08] <erUSUL> dimas__: it is for mozilla the flash plug-in i guess
[09:08] <vox754> !patience > Hazler
[09:09] <younghacker> apache2 if thats the correct version name
[09:09] <Hazler> aigh
[09:09] <Kazabubu> it returns  invalid operation clean
[09:09] <Hazler> aight*
[09:09] <Pirate_Hunter> scorp123: you havent got the point my version doesnt, it runs on text command lines, it doesnt have a full GUI like dapper unless im using alternate CD
[09:09] <Abhi123> i want to setup JAVA_HOME in ubuntu server
[09:09] <mhz`> younghacker, oh ok, you didn't specify it to install into a special folder correct? just the default stuff?
[09:09] <vox754> dxdt, interesting!
[09:09] <scorp123> Pirate_Hunter: no idea what you are using. The Ubuntu 7.04 Live CD *DOES* definitely have a GUI.
[09:09] <jaro> Hey guys, which program can I use to cam with windows-users ?
[09:09] <mhz`> younghacker, try looking in /usr/local/apache2
[09:09] <younghacker> yea ,,, lol im not even that good on linux so it is definately the default install
[09:09] <younghacker> cool
[09:10] <mhz`> should be a conf folder then httpd.conf should be inside there
[09:10] <Kazabubu> scorp123: it returns invalid operation clean
[09:10] <mhz`> younghacker, we'll eventually find it
[09:10] <mhz`> :)
[09:10] <scorp123> Kazabubu: man apt-cache
[09:10] <gowansu_> i want bboguly
[09:10] <younghacker> cool i appreciate it man
[09:10] <mhz`> check and see if its there
[09:10] <zphinx> There is no qmail in the ubuntu repos?
[09:10] <scorp123> Kazabubu: wait ... maybe it was  sudo apt-get clean
[09:10] <dxdt> vox754: yeah I read somewhere it could do 2GB, I don't that I would want to try that though.  I rmemeber it working but being sorta laggy with the stuff I was doing.(which wasn't too mucb)
[09:10] <younghacker> i don't think it's there i'm on ls-a at the directory im not seeing the file here
[09:10] <dimas__> erUSUL the thing is this...i did installed it but that file doesnt show and i asking cause it spouse to be in plugins but inst and i can have video display from my cam so i trying to find out if this is the problem
[09:11] <Pirate_Hunter> scorp123: anyway going to check afterwards cause i might be using alternate CD which explains why I was presented with a GUI of Feisty
[09:11] <younghacker> would it be under the apache directory that was created at install
[09:11] <mhz`> younghacker, inside conf folder or /usr/local/apache2
[09:11] <Pirate_Hunter> *wasnt
[09:11] <numus> sometimes when i start up programs dont work right
[09:11] <scorp123> Pirate_Hunter: the alternate CD has a text-installer, yes.
[09:11] <erUSUL> !flash | dimas__
[09:11] <mhz`> let me see, did you do sudo apt-get install apache2?
[09:11] <ubotu> dimas__: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[09:11] <Abhi123> i had done apt-get install sun-java5-jdk.. now i want to set the JAVA_HOME to jdk directory.. any help?
[09:11] <Kazabubu> scorp123: i did apt-get clean
[09:12] <Pirate_Hunter> scorp123: yes it does that explains the confusion now I need to get he right one unless you know how to run terminal from that
[09:12] <Abhi123> i am not sure where is that directory
[09:12] <zphinx> Anyone? No packages for qmail under ubuntu 7.04?
[09:12] <mrsno__> Abhi123 i believe you can use sudo update-alternatives java to set the path
[09:12] <Kazabubu> scorp123: bu it didnt clean that folder
[09:12] <scorp123> Kazabubu: the directory should now be empty ... except for a few small files that absolutely need to be there.
[09:12] <mrsno__> or choose which java to use
[09:12] <dimas__> thanks ubotu erUSUL
[09:12] <djcabz> is it possible that the screen saver is the culprit.  Every time the system has "froze" the screen saver was also working.   Did not matter which screen saver, but I would venture that it usually occurred with the more graphically intense screen saves.
[09:12] <mhz`> younghacker, i'm installing it now...apache2 that is, give me a min here
[09:12] <vox754> !thanks | dimas__
[09:12] <ubotu> dimas__: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[09:12] <erUSUL> dimas__: no problem (ubotu is the channel bot :D)
[09:12] <joeamined> hi folks
[09:12] <younghacker> ok lol thanks, i found something pretty cool here it may have something to do with my situation
[09:13] <Abhi123> mrsno_ but jboss server is not finding tools.jar
[09:13] <b^j> the other day i changed my resolution with the screen resolution tool in the Preferences menu, now my Big Desktop isn't working through the fireglcontrol.  It is correct in gdm but when i log in it gets stuck in mirror mode and i can't get it out of mirror mode.  anyone know how to fix this?
[09:13] <dimas__> lol okies!!!
[09:13] <younghacker> i see a port.conf file
[09:13] <mhz`> younghacker, i found it
[09:13] <redbox> is there a version file I can check to see what version of ubuntu I'm running?
[09:13] <younghacker> really
[09:13] <mhz`> /etc/apache2
[09:13] <younghacker> ok
[09:13] <mhz`> sudo nano /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[09:13] <mrsno__> Abhi123 not a clue about jboss sorry
[09:13] <CaptainM> !version | redbox
[09:13] <mhz`> wait
[09:13] <ubotu> redbox: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[09:13] <mhz`> hmm
[09:13] <joeamined> is there a way to change advanced sound settings like bass and treble levels ?
[09:14] <mhz`> younghacker, ha! funny thing is from apache 1.3
[09:14] <mhz`> it's now apache2.conf
[09:14] <mhz`> httpd.conf is the default config file for the older version of apache
[09:14] <Jahman> hi
[09:14] <mhz`> younghacker, so do: sudo nano /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[09:15] <Abhi123> mrsno_ http://pastebin.com/mab97193
[09:16] <b^j> younghacker, did you ever get the autopsy thing figured out?
[09:16] <scorp123> Kazabubu: sudo apt-get clean  <== that should have cleaned it.
[09:16] <younghacker> nah @ b^j
[09:16] <younghacker> i think the disk image was corrupted and autopsy never recognized
[09:16] <b^j> bah
[09:16] <mhz`> younghacker, did you find it?
[09:17] <younghacker> @ mhz.... i am there and looking but i have a slightly different config here
[09:17] <mhz`> oh ok
[09:17] <scorp123> b^j: autopsies?? you people are scary :)
[09:17] <mhz`> i did sudo apt-get apache2 and i let it do its thing
[09:17] <mhz`> that's where mine was
[09:17] <b^j> scorp123, autopsy is a computer forensics program, it is very nice
[09:17] <ryan8403> what would be a good program to try to recover data off a drive that the head crashed on?
[09:17] <younghacker> at /etc/apache2 i have files like port.conf and etc
[09:17] <scorp123> b^j: aaaah, so no cutting up of dead bodies? OK :)
[09:17] <mhz`> yeah, that's fine
[09:17] <numus> i am having a huge problem.. when buuntu loads up now i loose the 3 buttons at the top right of all my screens and i cant clikc on the screen or move it or anything
[09:17] <CaptainM> firefox always crashes when I close a tab with a movie playing in a flash player (youtube or something) any thoughts? This only happens when I close a tab. Not when I close the whole window
[09:17] <b^j> scorp123, not today at least <G>
[09:17] <younghacker> when i open port.conf with nano i see listening port 80
[09:18] <mhz`> younghacker, if you want to run apache on a different port then 80, edit port.conf
[09:18] <craigbass1976> /etc/init.d/apache2 start does NOT work.  Stop does though, and /usr/sbin/apache2/apache2ctl start works too
[09:18] <younghacker> ohhh i see
[09:18] <craigbass1976> What to do?
[09:18] <younghacker> and everything else should be working correctly ?
[09:18] <mhz`> younghacker, if you need to edit the base configuartion file for apache, it's in apache2.conf in that same directory as port.conf
[09:18] <younghacker> what is the command line to start apache manually again ?
[09:18] <siloko> is it worth installing beryl (it being discontinued) or is compiz as good?
[09:18] <younghacker> ok cool
[09:18] <younghacker> thanks man u rock
[09:18] <mhz`>  sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[09:18] <numus> anyone?
[09:18] <TheCreationist> Whenever trying to use apt-get (or the GUI frontends), they crash with this error:  dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 1979 package `language-pack-gnome-ru-base':   `Depends' field, syntax error after reference to package `language-pack-gnome-ru'
[09:19] <younghacker> mhz is the man right now
[09:19] <younghacker> lol
[09:19] <dxdt> siloko: they are being remerged together so it won't be applicable to ask which is better in a little bit of tiem
[09:19] <mhz`> younghacker, to test...open firefox after you start up apache and go to http://127.0.0.1
[09:19] <numus> please
[09:19] <dxdt> mhz`: holy crap good call on the sudo to that command.  I spaced that out.
[09:19] <younghacker> yes im going now ... lol
[09:19] <siloko> dxdt:  you think it is worth waiting until the merge - or just install beryl until the merge is released?
[09:19] <Kazabubu> scorp123: is it possible to have a system that is 14 GB with not to many applications on it????i only have a 732MB of free space on a 15.4GB partition
[09:20] <mhz`> lol dx..i'm used to su
[09:20] <LucianIndy> siloko, i've used beryl and currently, compiz. i would have to say i like compiz better
[09:20] <mhz`> then doing it
[09:20] <m0> Kazabubu: any OS is like that :s
[09:20] <mhz`> but with ubuntu it's a bit different
[09:20] <scorp123> Kazabubu: uhmmmm ... sounds like you installed a lot?
[09:20] <dxdt> siloko: ummmmm  obviously since you are here asking about it, you kinda want to toy with it :-) so I would say go for it and install beryl which at the moment has more fun goodies than compiz.
[09:20] <younghacker> COOL it works mhz
[09:20] <mhz`> :)
[09:20] <younghacker> thanks ,,,
[09:20] <mhz`> there ya go you got apache up & running
[09:20] <siloko> LucianIndy: I never really got much out of compiz in the past - but perhaps I'll give it a go first
[09:20] <mhz`> yup, enjoy
[09:20] <younghacker> wow
[09:20] <b^j> is there anything in the gnome desktop on ubuntu that would be superseding my xorg.conf for dual desktop setup? i can't figure out why i am in clone mode and not big desktop mode
[09:20] <Kazabubu> scorp123: only ordinary stuff
[09:20] <scorp123> Kazabubu: I have Ubuntu 7.04 on a slow and old laptop with only a 12 GB disk and still more than half of the disk is free.
[09:21] <LucianIndy> !compiz
[09:21] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:21] <LucianIndy> follow that tutorial tho (especially the first link where they tell you to uninstall the ubuntu version of compiz)
[09:21] <Kazabubu> scorp123: i have upgated from 6.06
[09:21] <mhz`> are there other effects/addons for compiz out there?
[09:21] <mhz`> i'm using it now, but curious if there's other stuff
[09:21] <dxdt> siloko: also keep in mind the channel #ubuntu-effects which has more expert people on that fancy stuff
[09:21] <ilikec0ws> compiz-fusion :)
[09:21] <scorp123> Kazabubu: oh ... that might be the reason why your disks are so full.
[09:21] <craigbass1976> /etc/init.d/apache2 start does NOT work.  Stop does though, and /usr/sbin/apache2/apache2ctl start works too.  Why won't the init.d apache starting work; the script appears to be pointing in the right direction
[09:22] <LucianIndy> might be something on the compiz site. compiz.org
[09:22] <djcabz> ATI Technologies Inc M22 [Radeon Mobility M300]  - are there known issues with this video and debian based Linux distros?
[09:22] <mhz`> merci
[09:22] <mhz`> craigbass1976, are you putting sudo in front?
[09:22] <mhz`> sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[09:22] <Kazabubu> scorp123: which is??
[09:22] <craigbass1976> mhz`, yes.  I've even done it as root
[09:22] <mhz`> as root?
[09:22] <dxdt> djcabz: I use it, and althought it isn't the best, it works.  (I mean Ubuntu has worked for the last several versions.  It only becomes a problem sometimes when doing the beta cool graphicy beryl effects)
[09:22] <mhz`> there is no root in ubuntu...are you getting an error message at all?
[09:23] <Kazabubu> scorp123: can i do somthing about it??
[09:23] <djcabz> dxdt:  how can I insure that I am not using beryl effects?
[09:23] <siloko> mhz`: there is no root in ubunut :) are you sure ?
[09:23] <ilikec0ws> djcabz: They arent turned on by default
[09:23] <b^j> siloko, you can enable root in ubuntu
[09:23] <dxdt> djcabz: they aren't on by default.  And I don't want to scare you because even if you do use beryl it isn't that bad but you will get some crashes here and there
[09:24] <b^j> siloko, i did
[09:24] <Andeh> Hello. I installed AMSN but can't use it because it can't find TLS.
[09:24] <scorp123> Kazabubu: try the apt* commands to empty the cache ... removing stuff by hand is a bit dangerous.
[09:24] <mhz`> you can enable it
[09:24] <siloko> b^j: i know man i was just offering a heads up :)
[09:24] <mhz`> but by default its disabled
[09:24] <dxdt> dxdt: I mean I use it without the fancy spinning cube and stuff and it works absolutely swell then
[09:24] <CmdrChalupa> Does anyone have any idea how I can get the dvi->rca adapter to display properly with a mac mini?  or are we waiting for an intel driver update
[09:24] <Andeh> I have all the TLS files. Which one does AMSN need me to find in the preferences?
[09:24] <gdb> root isn't disabled
[09:24] <Kazabubu> scorp123: so man apt i guess
[09:24] <ilikec0ws> gdb: The account it....sudo isnt :P
[09:24] <gdb> I wish people would stop propagating this myth.
[09:24] <gdb> The account is not disabled.
[09:24] <scorp123> Kazabubu: man 8 apt
[09:24] <dxdt> I thought root is there, but just with a weird ass password
[09:24] <furenku> Hello! after becoming root with sudo, how can i go back to normal user?
[09:24] <gdb> It has no password, it's locked.
[09:25] <siloko> gdb: indeed - just gove root a password and loging - nothing easier :)
[09:25] <Andeh> gdb: Logging in from the login screen is though.
[09:25] <gdb> No need to give a password or unlock it for a root shell.
[09:25] <Andeh> gdb: That might contribute to the myth :P
[09:25] <djcabz> ilikec0ws:  thanks, dxdt:  so I am getting crashes and I am not using beryl, but I am reading that folks are have had problems...  Since I almost always see the issues when my screensaver is running I assume it must be graphic card related... Assume...
[09:25] <gdb> sudo -i
[09:25] <scorp123> Kazabubu: if you just invoke "man apt" you might get the man page for another command which has nothing to do with the package manager (man 1 apt).
[09:25] <dxdt> djcabz: hmmmm
[09:25] <CaptainM> furenku, sudo only count's for one command
[09:25] <furenku> thanx!
[09:25] <lexus_nexis> hi
[09:25] <AndyR> lo al
[09:25] <AndyR> all
[09:25] <gdb> I just hear things like "there is no root in ubuntu" and I want to start punching people.
[09:26] <gdb> Mostly the people saying that.
[09:26] <gdb> :-P
[09:26] <djcabz> beryl is like project looking glass that frekking rocks..
[09:26] <dxdt> djcabz: that I can't help you with.  I don't usually have problems with it.  However, I don't run the xscreensaver that often either.  I just don't find it useful when I can put the computer to sleep.
[09:26] <siloko> sudo isn't root either - it gives you root-type priveledges for *some* applications/commands
[09:26] <CaptainM> firefox always crashes when I close a tab with a movie playing in a flash player (youtube or something) any thoughts? This only happens when I close a tab. Not when I close the whole window
[09:26] <lexus_nexis> how can I compare two folders so that I the file size reading would be axact
[09:26] <dxdt> gdb: did you name yourself after the gnu debugger?
[09:26] <scorp123> CaptainM: unless of course he did a "sudo su -" (which isn't suggested ... ) ... :-)
[09:26] <gdb> dxdt: yep
[09:27] <lexus_nexis> like as detailed a reading as a MD5 sum
[09:27] <Andeh> gdb :-P
[09:27] <odix> ahhh... so i got ubuntu picking up my trendnet 443 (atheros pci) card, but theres no wifi utils to scan and connect on the default install? I'm on a laptop now running xp
[09:27] <CaptainM> scorp123, I hope he'd said "after becoming root with sudo su.." if he did that
[09:27] <dxdt> gdb: so have you been on freenode forever?  I would have guessed that name would have been taken or something
[09:27] <b^j> anyone know why fireglcontrol is no longer able to put my my system into big desktop mode after i changed the res with the Screen Resolution app in the Preferences menu?
[09:27] <gdb> siloko: sudo -i
[09:27] <gdb> dxdt: yep
[09:27] <odix> do i download madwifi drivers and utils and burn a cd and try and get it to work ?
[09:27] <dxdt> lol that is cool
[09:27] <Andeh> lol
[09:27] <CaptainM> scorp123, otherwise he is busy screwing up his system now :P
[09:27] <scorp123> CaptainM: yes, I hope that too ... oh, well, he will find out soon ..
[09:27] <younghacker> hey b^j familiar with metasploit?
[09:27] <gdb> I've been coming here for about, hrm, 9 years.
[09:28] <Andeh> LOL
[09:28] <b^j> younghacker, yeah, use it all the time, used it this morning in fact
[09:28] <younghacker> <<<--needs help with it ,,, but isn't this the coolest
[09:28] <odix> anyone ?
[09:28] <Andeh> METASPLOIT: The Best a Haxor Can Get
[09:28] <Andeh> :)
[09:28] <younghacker> lol
[09:29] <b^j> younghacker, yeah, its a lot of fun, i really like its payload generator
[09:29] <djcabz> dxdt:  I see this lock-up issues numerous times a day, and it would be one thing if I could CTRL+BACKSPACE then capture some ... hmmm
[09:29] <younghacker> i havn't used the generator as of yet i have been trying to use the built in exploits however im not seeming to work correctly,
[09:29] <younghacker> im going to give it some time though
[09:29] <flame>  ,  audacious        "   "  
[09:30] <b^j> younghacker, you using the 2.7 or 3.0 version?
[09:30] <screenname92834> hi
[09:30] <younghacker> 3.0
[09:30] <ilikec0ws> !ru | flame
[09:30] <ubotu> flame:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[09:30] <younghacker> i have 2 versions installed in BackTrack live distro however
[09:30] <scorp123> flame: English please ...
[09:30] <b^j> younghacker, it took me a while to get that to work, stupid ubuntu not having a working version of gem
[09:30] <djcabz> does this mean something to someone:  PCI: Bus #04 (-#07) is hidden behind transparent bridge #03 (-#04) (try 'pci=assign-busses')
[09:30] <screenname92834> folks, how what do I need to get and install to get started with C++?
[09:30] <younghacker> lol IS THAT IT
[09:30] <younghacker> smh
[09:31] <Andeh> Hey. I installed AMSN and I need help getting it to work. TLS issues. And yes, I have tried #AMSN. It's dead.
[09:31] <mhz`> screenname92834, you can write c++ in gedit
[09:31] <mhz`> :)
[09:31] <Andeh> Anyone?
[09:31] <mhz`> just can't compile it
[09:31] <younghacker> i have gem here and I just used Gem to install rails
[09:31] <monteiro> i've my hp laptop that failed the harddrive test in bios, is there any way to fix this?
[09:31] <younghacker> is it not working correctly?
[09:31] <scorp123> screenname92834: "C++ for Dummies" maybe? Funny book. Well written and entertaining.
[09:31] <b^j> younghacker, maybe they fixed it, haven't tried for a few months
[09:31] <younghacker> ohhh yes try again
[09:32] <Pirate_Hunter> get it from synaptic
[09:32] <screenname92834> what's it called?
[09:32] <younghacker> i believe mines is working but some weird happenings follow like,, i reinstalled rails not to long ago
[09:32] <RkyRaccoon> can someone help me, on my desktop I can no longer boot ubuntu
[09:32] <younghacker> i thought it was working fine until i tried to start the metasploit web interface
[09:32] <Pirate_Hunter> Andeh: get it from synaptic
[09:32] <screenname92834> what's in andeh?
[09:32] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: Any error messages/specifc times it hangs?
[09:32] <younghacker> had to reinstall
[09:32] <b^j> younghacker, try the console, that usually works
[09:32] <davidspart> BAIKONUR FOR PRESIDENT
[09:32] <Pirate_Hunter> anyway he probably wont and im out for now too early from me to be here
[09:33] <mhz`> screenname92834, try: anjuta
[09:33] <Pirate_Hunter> *for
[09:33] <djcabz> why would I see this in /var/log/messages:   Booting paravirtualized kernel on bare hardware
[09:33] <younghacker> and why does the exploit command not work for me
[09:33] <mhz`> screenname92834, that's a gnome ide c/c++
[09:33] <b^j> younghacker, no clue, gtg for a bit
[09:33] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws, after the loading screen it just shows a black screen and wont load the login screen
[09:33] <djcabz> I don't remember choosing to install in xen components...
[09:33] <younghacker> no worries man, take it easy
[09:34] <fsckr> is there a irc channel for claws-mail?
[09:34] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: Get into one of the virtual terminals using ctrl+alt+f1
[09:34] <younghacker> be careful with that msf
[09:34] <younghacker> lol
[09:34] <scorp123> younghacker: you know that "hacking" isn't about pointing and clicking, right? :-)
[09:34] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: And check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors
[09:34] <screenname92834> who is gnome?
[09:34] <younghacker> very aware
[09:34] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws, how?
[09:34] <younghacker> my major is digital forensics
[09:34] <scorp123> screenname92834: you are asking scary questions ....
[09:34] <younghacker> im a newbie and i only hack myself
[09:34] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: When you get this black screen......
[09:34] <screenname92834> why?
[09:34] <younghacker> so consider it learning
[09:34] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: Hit ctrl+alt+f1
[09:35] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: You should get taken to a virtual terminal
[09:35] <odix> how can i get my ipod out of read-only ?
[09:35] <scorp123> screenname92834: aren't you supposed to know what GNOME is when you hang around here??
[09:35] <knix> What's gnome?
[09:35] <younghacker> lol
[09:35] <knix> I think I have one of those on my front lawn
[09:35] <scorp123> younghacker: digital forensics? Sounds interesting.
[09:35] <ilikec0ws> ^^
[09:35] <davidspart> o noes, how do i get out of virtual terminal
[09:35] <dxdt> gdb: You didn't write gdb did you??  Are you actually rms?
[09:35] <scorp123> knix: yes, I ran over one yesterday ....
[09:36] <davidspart> i pressed ctrl f1 just for lulz
[09:36] <ilikec0ws> davidspart: Ctrl+alt+f7
[09:36] <knix> scorp123: That was you?!?!
[09:36] <davidspart> ah ok thnx
[09:36] <ilikec0ws> davidspart: or ctrl f7
[09:36] <younghacker> yes, it is im learning when i got a D in one of my Unix courses i went and picked up a copy of Ubuntu
[09:36] <scorp123> knix: I was actually aiming for you ... sorry about that dead gnome of your's :->
[09:36] <younghacker> and began self education
[09:36] <screenname92834> well I tried  to get anjuta and it asked me to get my install disc, which I don't have so what the flip am I going to do?
[09:36] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: nothings happening
[09:36] <knix> scorp123: Understandable, I'm often mistaken for a gnome given my small stature
[09:36] <younghacker> lol
[09:37] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: i can boot in recovery mode and have a command line
[09:37] <djcabz> anyone can point me to a ubuntu specific log file, that may contain info regarding what is happening with my system during these lock-ups...
[09:37] <kaha> At least tell us it was because you missed the flamingo
[09:37] <scorp123> knix: Yeah, I was already wondering: "WTF is that gnome moving so faaaast ???" :-)
[09:37] <younghacker> this guy has me rofl with this gnome stuff ,, gonna get me fired for chatting on job time
[09:37] <iAtheist> does anyone know when the new Kernel is going to hit the repo's?
[09:37] <younghacker> lol
[09:37] <knix> scorp123: hahaha
[09:37] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: Might as well give it ago, it sounds like an X error to me
[09:37] <CaptainM> firefox always crashes when I close a tab with a movie playing in a flash player (youtube or something) any thoughts? This only happens when I close a tab. Not when I close the whole window
[09:37] <Dave132> Dave123, good handle
[09:37] <knix> iAtheist: in gutsy :P
[09:38] <younghacker> what player are you using i think that happend to me
[09:38] <NukeForeverR> whats a good terminal irc app?
[09:38] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: if it is an "X" error am i gonna need to re-install?
[09:38] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: Probably not
[09:38] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: ive got a command line
[09:38] <mhz`> bitchx, irisi...
[09:38] <mhz`> umm, i spelled that last one wrong
[09:38] <NukeForeverR> ah yea irissi was the one i forgot the name
[09:39] <NukeForeverR> thanks
[09:39] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: try nano /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:39] <mhz`> irissi
[09:39] <scorp123> irssi
[09:39] <mhz`> irssi*
[09:39] <NukeForeverR> damn hard name to spell
[09:39] <iAtheist> knix: you sure? their not going to make it available in an update at all?
[09:39] <NukeForeverR> can I use apt-get to get it?
[09:39] <numus> beryl is causing glitches in ubuntu all fo the suddent.. i loose all the navigation bar with the close, minimum maximize button and all ability to move windows when beryl opens now
[09:39] <numus> all of the sudden out of nowhere it is doing this
[09:39] <scorp123> OK, let's ask the audience .... or anyone wanna use their 50:50 joker? :-)
[09:39] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: ok
[09:39] <The_PitBull> f
[09:39] <The_PitBull> f
[09:39] <The_PitBull> f
[09:39] <The_PitBull> f
[09:39] <The_PitBull> loooooooooooooooooo
[09:39] <knix> iAtheist: no
[09:40] <The_PitBull> fuckers
[09:40] <The_PitBull> fuckers
[09:40] <The_PitBull> fuckers
[09:40] <The_PitBull> fuckers
[09:40] <The_PitBull> you are all fuckers
[09:40] <Kazabubu> scorp123: i dont man.i did apt-get clean but steel averything is the same
[09:40] <mhz`> good one..
[09:40] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: If you go to the bottom their maybe some error messages
[09:40] <numus> anyone?
[09:40] <screenname92834> the pitbull: you're an idiot
[09:40] <scorp123> The_PitBull: sure, or how else are we supposed to reproduce
[09:40] <iAtheist> i got disconnected, can you repeat that?
[09:40] <scorp123> :-)
[09:40] <The_PitBull> f
[09:40] <The_PitBull> f
[09:40] <The_PitBull> f
[09:40] <The_PitBull> f
[09:40] <The_PitBull> f
[09:40] <The_PitBull> f
[09:40] <The_PitBull> f
[09:40] <The_PitBull> f
[09:40] <The_PitBull> f
[09:40] <The_PitBull> f
[09:40] <The_PitBull> f
[09:40] <ilikec0ws> !ops | The_PitBull
[09:40] <ubotu> The_PitBull: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[09:40] <The_PitBull> FUCKERS
[09:40] <Kazabubu> scorp123: is there any other way?
[09:40] <The_PitBull> FUCKERS
[09:40] <Dave132> isnt there a bot in here?
[09:40] <scorp123> ah well, yet another one who wants to get kicked
[09:40] <djcabz> you know freenode is fairly good, channel flooding doesn't cause a problem?
[09:41] <numus> can anyone help me
[09:41] <screenname92834> ok well I solved my problem - I unticked the cd rom repository and now it's getting it from somewhere else.
[09:41] <itrebal> I htink thats also reason for a k-line
[09:41] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: yes there are
[09:41] <scorp123> bye bye PitBull ...  :-)
[09:41] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: Which are?
[09:41] <djcabz> itrebal:  yeah, at least for a month
[09:41] <ilikec0ws> scorp123: I love the ops in this room :)
[09:41] <scorp123> Oh yeah
[09:41] <iAtheist> Knix: i got disconnected could you repeat that?
[09:42] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: should i pastebin it or something so people here dont get pissed?
[09:42] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: That would be good :)
[09:42] <numus> if i uninstall it and reinstall might htat fix the problem?
[09:42] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: Need an addy?
[09:42] <ilikec0ws> !paster | RkyRaccoon
[09:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paster - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:42] <ilikec0ws> !paste | RkyRaccoon
[09:42] <ubotu> RkyRaccoon: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:42] <ilikec0ws> Crap typing sorry guys :(
[09:43] <craigbass1976> /etc/init.d/apache2 start does NOT work.  Stop does though, and /usr/sbin/apache2/apache2ctl start works too.  Why won't the init.d apache starting work; the script appears to be pointing in the right direction
[09:44] <numus> is anyone in this chanel to actually help?
[09:44] <ilikec0ws> !ask | numus
[09:44] <ubotu> numus: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:44] <CaptainM> !ask | numus
[09:44] <numus> well i have been asking for about 20 minutes how to uninstall a program really
[09:44] <vox754> !patience > numus
[09:44] <CaptainM> numus, ask again
[09:44] <iAtheist> numus: pm me
[09:44] <vox754> !repeat > numus
[09:45] <numus> beryl is causing a problem that i loose all my tool bars.. the ability to close windows.. minimize maximize
[09:45] <Hazler> hey all, i need help with my game, the sound is very laggy
[09:45] <numus> and move windows
[09:45] <vox754> !enter > numus
[09:45] <numus> i removed it from repos but when i type beryl in terminal it still runs
[09:45] <ilikec0ws> numus: Thats a nice emerald problem
[09:45] <screenname92834> thx folks
[09:45] <numus> how do i fix it
[09:45] <asdf> I'm a laptop user and when I log in nm-applet requests access to my keyring so I have to enter my password.  Is there a way I can chmod the ownership to avoid this?
[09:45] <ilikec0ws> numus: And what are you aiming to do?
[09:45] <numus> it is a pain in the arse
[09:45] <numus> be able to move windows
[09:45] <vox754> Hazler, you need a faster processor, there I solved your problem
[09:45] <scorp123> numus: you have to try a different "Window decorator".
[09:46] <Hazler> I think its fast enough
[09:46] <ilikec0ws> numus: ask in #ubuntu-effects
[09:46] <Hazler> Alienware
[09:46] <aquarius> If I'd like my laptop to be able to be plugged into a projector while running and then be able to run something to switch output to the projector, do I need gutsy and the new xrandr stuff, or can I do that with feisty somehow?
[09:46] <scorp123> asdf: yes
[09:46] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29401/
[09:46] <scorp123> asdf: .... looking for link ....
[09:46] <iAtheist> ilikec0ws: so pro, sending someone to another room :|
[09:46] <scorp123> asdf: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=f5de5634f4448d733a599c23e4bb0257&p=2776815&postcount=1
[09:47] <vox754> iAtheist, it is the right thing to do. If you want to help him, you should be there.
[09:47] <ilikec0ws> iAtheist: Ermmmmm I think most people would do the same when it comes to beryl....hence why they have a channel specifically about it
[09:47] <asdf> scrop123: I'll give that a try, thank you very much
[09:47] <astroview120mm> # Appears as TONGTYED.
[09:47] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: Do you actually have a touchpad?
[09:47] <numus> ya no one is answering in effects
[09:47] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: no
[09:47] <younghacker> uummm gtg ,,, mhZ thanks again and everyone else who assisted me with my issues today
[09:47] <younghacker> 1
[09:48] <iAtheist> ilikec0ws: oh i thought it was because he wanted help installing something, i thought you were being irrelevant
[09:48] <ilikec0ws> iAtheist: Its an emerald/beryl problem
[09:48] <Shiverz> hey people :)
[09:48] <numus> dude there are no points to those other rooms
[09:48] <numus> they are all full of idlers
[09:48] <numus> they have maybe 100.. this room has 1170 right now
[09:48] <ilikec0ws> numus: If you have everything installed a good way to maybe get some idea of errors is to run beryl --replace
[09:49] <PriceChild> numus, There is point, as this is too crowded. And please don't call people idiots
[09:49] <iAtheist> ilikec0ws: i thought he was wanting to instal beryl not fix it :( sorry
[09:49] <numus> when did i say idiot?
[09:49] <PriceChild> numus, beryl and compiz ni #ubuntu-effects. The people knowledgable in those areas will be there.
[09:49] <ilikec0ws> iAtheist: Its okay =)
[09:49] <astroview120mm> Is this about the Ubuntu OS?
[09:49] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: so any ideas?
[09:49] <numus> i just lost all my workspaces somehow now
[09:49] <Shiverz> when i switch to a virtual console and back to my GUI my screen goes black and all I see is a cursor
[09:49] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: You could just remove it from your xorg.conf
[09:49] <Jack_Sparrow> astroview120mm: YEs we are here to help with Ubuntu
[09:49] <numus> ubuntu is esentially crashing on me
[09:50] <Shiverz> im guessing its compiz fusion whats causing it
[09:50] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: the wacom?
[09:50] <stetran> ubuntu is failing horribly at playing media files :((
[09:50] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: So that would be finding the section to do with Wacom and commenting it out, as well as in the serverlayout section deleting it there too
[09:50] <PriceChild> Shiverz, #ubuntu-effects for compiz please.
[09:50] <iAtheist> ilikec0ws: but you know what i mean right? i had some guy tell me about a month ago to type in the *delete everything* command and told me it would arrange my folders alphabetically
[09:50] <PriceChild> !mp3 | stetran
[09:50] <ubotu> stetran: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:50] <Superkuh> Anyone happen to be aware of any particularly useful resources for learning to use and interpet strace?
[09:50] <stetran> oO
[09:50] <Jack_Sparrow> stetran: what have you done so far to get them working
[09:50] <furenku> does anybody know how to patch wine to rebuild it with a patch i downloaded?
[09:50] <ilikec0ws> iAtheist: Nope havent a clue but thats just unlucky :)
[09:50] <stetran> some guy got me to install libdvd2 or something
[09:50] <stetran> and all the other codecs
[09:50] <numus> is there any way to fix this or no
[09:50] <stetran> was working fine
[09:51] <stetran> but now i watch it for a bit then it just blacks out
[09:51] <iAtheist> ilikec0ws: :P i know right? whats that command again? do you know?
[09:51] <stetran> sorry for all the lines, habit of hitting enter
[09:51] <ilikec0ws> iAtheist: Nope :), havent used ubuntu much really
[09:51] <kaba> is there anybody who has sucessfully connected WLAN Atheros AR5007EG?
[09:51] <Dave132> I get a black screen on logout can anyone please help me?
[09:51] <PriceChild> stetran, the screensaver hitting in, or monitor going to power save?
[09:51] <numus> Does anyone know what is causing this missing toolbar?
[09:51] <stetran> nope, its about 30 seconds after i start the file
[09:51] <iAtheist> ilikec0ws: heh, what distro you use?
[09:51] <Jack_Sparrow> stetran: If it was working fine, what has been installed since then and how was it installed, apt-get, synaptic or ?
[09:51] <numus> if you haven't guessed NO ONE IS AWAKE IN THE EFFECTS ROOM
[09:52] <PriceChild> !Patience > numus
[09:52] <ilikec0ws> iAtheist: Well, Gentoo and for this now LinuxMINT
[09:52] <stetran> could it be because when i installed ubuntu i had 1gb of ram and now i have 512? because when my ram module died beryl stopped working aswell
[09:52] <Jack_Sparrow> numus: and we are not here to deal with Fluff-effects..
[09:52] <ilikec0ws> iAtheist: Its basically ubuntu done up and with a few less packages
[09:52] <vox754> numus, all this is experimental, so if it doesn't work as expected turn it off.
[09:52] <numus> Jack_sparrow then what are you here for
[09:52] <numus> vox754 it worked perfectly untill today
[09:52] <numus> vox754 something caused it to not work anymore
[09:52] <iAtheist> ilikec0ws: what packages? in particular?
[09:52] <stetran> Jack_Sparrow, apt-get
[09:52] <iAtheist> ilikec0ws: nvm ill just google it :0
[09:53] <Jack_Sparrow> numus: To help people with Ubuntu issues NOT somethine else they added that has its own specific room
[09:53] <PriceChild> numus, Please go to #ubuntu-effects for beryl/compiz help.... EOD.
[09:53] <eauxnguyen> hi all. How do I upgrade from 6.06 to 7.04? Isn't it possible?
[09:53] <ilikec0ws> iAtheist: It does still have some useless stuff in it but ahh well
[09:53] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: what should i replace "wacom" with?
[09:53] <PriceChild> !upgrade | eauxnguyen
[09:53] <ubotu> eauxnguyen: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:53] <numus> PriceChild i am in that room.. and like i said.. no one is awake.. all idlers who are idling in this room aswell
[09:53] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: If you have a Mouse and Keyboard section why not just delete/comment it out
[09:53] <iAtheist> ilikec0ws: i was gonna try out gentoo, but i couldnt figure out what makes it so special
[09:53] <Jack_Sparrow> stetran: If it was working fine until you installed beryl right..
[09:53] <mediahunter> can anyone in here tell me if there is a wiki on how to network my printer on my linux box to my wifes xp laptop
[09:54] <stetran> before my ram died, the video files ran fine alongside beryl
[09:54] <stetran> Jack_Sparrow ^
[09:54] <stetran> was all peachy, then i got a kernel panic
[09:54] <ilikec0ws> iAtheist: I pm'd you :) less flood for the channel aye
[09:54] <Karotte> hmmm: http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/11808/
[09:54] <CaptainM> numus, if everyone is idle post in the forum, ask again later or turn beryl off. this stuff is experimental, if it doesn't work though luck
[09:55] <Karotte> angeblich gehts um Ctulluh & Friends
[09:55] <Dave132> mediahunter,http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki
[09:55] <mhz`> once installed ntfs-3g...a reboot required or can i do a ctrl+alt+backspace?
[09:55] <Karotte> oh sorry wrong window
[09:55] <Jack_Sparrow> stetran: by chance did you make any backups.
[09:55] <kronus_> Hi, I'm having odd problems with my wireless connection.  I'm using the network manager applet, which connects normally to my work network (when there's a minimal amount of other wifi in the area)
[09:55] <fsckr> anyone here use claws-mail for their email client, if so are you having issues on sending email?  I get an error of could not queue message for sending.  I have searched google with no luck
[09:55] <stetran> Jack_Sparrow, no :( i never make backups coz im a silly person :xx
[09:55] <kronus_> however, at home, there's about 10 networks detected, and I can't connect to any of them
[09:55] <mediahunter> karrote that does not tell me what the setup is
[09:56] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: How you getting on?
[09:56] <kronus_> also, is there a way to automatically call dhclient eth0 when a network cable is inserted?
[09:56] <Jack_Sparrow> stetran: See what the captain said above
[09:56] <Ghaz> is there anyway of showing the CPU temperature? or do i need to download/install something?
[09:56] <stetran> Jack_Sparrow which bit? the forum?
[09:56] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: fine, in server layout section i wanna get rid of "stylus" "cursor" and "eraser"?
[09:56] <ozer> hey
[09:57] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: Yep,
[09:57] <vox754> Ghaz, type "sensors" and see if you have it installed
[09:57] <vox754> !sensors | Ghaz
[09:57] <ubotu> Ghaz: You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[09:57] <Jack_Sparrow> captainM above.. his response to numus
[09:57] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: done
[09:57] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: Its strange, ubuntu did the same thing to me along time ago, where by it detected my joystick as a wacom
[09:57] <mhz`> once installed ntfs-3g...a reboot required or can i do a ctrl+alt+backspace?
[09:57] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: the worst part was that it happened slowly
[09:57] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: I'd give it a try now then out of recovery mode, good old reboot :)
[09:58] <stetran> Jack_Sparrow, k but is beryl normally random like that?
[09:58] <stetran> coz if it is i won't bother with it
[09:58] <stetran> it just looks nice
[09:58] <Ghaz> vox754, thank you or that :D
[09:59] <ilikec0ws> stetran: Once I got it running Ive never had a problem
[09:59] <stetran> ilikec0ws, yeah mine was running fine, like a dream but then ram went :(
[09:59] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: still nothing but a black screen
[09:59] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: Does the splash come up and all that?
[10:00] <CaptainM> stetran, it is a pain to get running sometimes, but after that it usually is fine. still it is very beta
[10:00] <RkyRaccoon> no, just the Ubuntu with the loading bar, after that it just goes black
[10:00] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: Id reboot into recovery and have another look at that log
[10:00] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: no, just the Ubuntu with the loading bar, after that it just goes black
[10:00] <stetran> CaptainM, i c. guess im just unlucky :(
[10:00] <blubloblu_> hello all, I'm having trouble with my Netgear WG111v2 wireless usb card. It keeps disconnecting every 5 minutes and it is very dodgy trying to get it to reconnect. I've read on lists that the card should work 'out of the box' with Feisty, what could be the problem?
[10:00] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: If its anything to do with wacom you didnt get rid of it all :)
[10:00] <Lordkami> whats the linux equivalent of c:\program files\?
[10:01] <vox754> Lordkami, /usr/share
[10:01] <CaptainM> stetran, wait till October :P gutsy will have compiz fusion by default
[10:01] <Lordkami> thanks
[10:01] <stetran> :o
[10:01] <stetran> everythings happening in october :( workign software, good ps3 games.
[10:01] <stetran> sux!!
[10:01] <CaptainM> Lordkami, type  'man hier' in a terminal
[10:01] <vox754> blubloblu_, you need to give the chipset from "lspci -nv"  do NOT paste here
[10:02] <stetran> lol man, just installed beryl again and i've lost all the tops of my windows, can't move them!
[10:02] <blubloblu_> vox754: it's usb, is it the same command?
[10:02] <vox754> blubloblu_, ah yes, missed it "lsusb -nv"
[10:02] <CaptainM> stetran, google for that. it seems to happen a lot
[10:02] <zerokill88> how do i get firefox to play mpgs?
[10:03] <ilikec0ws> stetran: ight click the beryl logo and change window  manager to metacity
[10:03] <stetran> ilikec0ws no funky effects with that right?
[10:03] <numus> hm,m
[10:03] <ilikec0ws> stetran: No but for now you'll get your window borders back
[10:03] <stetran> yea
[10:04] <Lordkami> it wont let me write to /user/share/xxxx, why not?
[10:04] <stetran> this happened last night, i managed to get my title bars back but thats when my videos started to mess up
[10:04] <CaptainM> Lordkami, you need to use sudo, but what do you want to do?
[10:04] <stetran> like with the beryl effects too
[10:04] <TheCreationist> Could someone please help me here?  Every time I try to run apt-get or any of the GUI Frontends, it crashes with this error:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29408/
[10:04] <Get_A_Fix> Good day, I need a bit of a hand with Grub and please. I have a dual boot system Win2000server/Breezy, and wish to remove the first hard disk, the one with Win and Grub on it, leaving only the hard disk with Breezy on it, and do not know how to tell the machine where to find the OS.
[10:04] <blubloblu_> vox754: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29409/
[10:04] <Lordkami> well, i have a file xxx.txt on desktop, i need to move it to usr/share/xxxx
[10:05] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: Got back into reovery yet mate?
[10:06] <TheCreationist> Get_A_Fix: You could reinstall Grub and tell it to install on the 2nd hard disk's partition.  That should do the trick
[10:06] <Lordkami> whats the command to move files?
[10:06] <ilikec0ws> cp
[10:06] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: i just tried it again and did miss something, but now it gives me the orange screen with the spinning loading wheel thing
[10:06] <CaptainM> Lordkami, in a terminal type: sudo mv /home/[usr name] /Desktop/[file]  /usr/share/xxx
[10:06] <vox754> blubloblu_, mmm.. no clue sorry. I assume you have the forum links to those comments you saw.
[10:06] <praveen> heh my php5 is not working
[10:06] <Lordkami> CaptainM: thanks
[10:06] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: Welll its progress =D
[10:06] <blubloblu_> vox754: no sorry, come again?
[10:06] <praveen> how to configure it
[10:07] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: yea, movin in the right direction
[10:07] <CaptainM> Lordkami, but be carefull with using sudo and changing stuff outside your home folder
[10:07] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: Id check the log again, either that or you could try configuring X again?
[10:07] <Get_A_Fix> TheCreationist: this can be done from the install cd without affecting my Breezy install can it ?
[10:07] <ratkymarcell> hello
[10:07] <blubloblu_> vox754: what comments?
[10:07] <iamlindoro> Hello all... I have just installed a second Ubuntu server at work, but all my users have accounts on the first one (Samba/Mail server)... is there a good way to set the second ubuntu machine up to authenticate all gnome logins against the first?
[10:07] <vox754> blubloblu_, you said you read that this USB worked, I assume you checked ubuntuforums.org
[10:08] <endy_> hi all
[10:08] <gerard> hey guys trying to fiqure out what I should do with firefox browser plugin responsible for divx movies? Im using the mplayer plugin afaik...when I play an embedded video from say stage6 it plays for like a few seconds very happily then stops altogether then starts to re-download/buffer from the begining again everytime
[10:08] <Rienzilla> iamlindoro: you'd need to set up an ldap for that I think
[10:08] <preaction> iamlindoro: the best way is probably LDAP, but it might take a bit to get it to work properly.
[10:08] <endy_> i have a little problem with clip art
[10:08] <Lordkami> how do I add transparency to the terminal window?
[10:08] <Rienzilla> and autenticate both machines against it
[10:08] <stetran> oh, found why the title bar was disappearing. window decoration wasn't ticked
[10:08] <Rienzilla> het
[10:08] <iamlindoro> bummer, I was afraid you would say that... :)
[10:09] <CaptainM> Lordkami, edit > profiles >
[10:09] <CurranH> ubuntu linux rocks
[10:09] <endy_> when i press ctrl+c den close the windows and den press ctrl+v it nothing happen
[10:09] <preaction> iamlindoro: theoretically you could put /etc/passwd and /etc/group under some sort of version control system and do things that way, but it would have to be set up properly
[10:09] <CaptainM> Lordkami, then edit the default profile (or wichever you are using)
[10:09] <Lordkami> ah ok thanks again
[10:09] <gerard> !glipper | endy_
[10:09] <craigbass1976> /etc/init.d/apache2 start does NOT work.  Stop does though, and /usr/sbin/apache2/apache2ctl start works too.  Why won't the init.d apache starting work; the script appears to be pointing in the right direction.  I have a hard time believing I'm the only one having thisproblem with a fresh apache2 install, btu can't see anything in the forums
[10:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glipper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:10] <ratkymarcell> My skype-contact complains that my voice is too deep and rotund. What can I set to resolve this? With alsamixer or anything like that I can only control the s
[10:10] <iamlindoro> Yeah, I suppose so... so no easy way to have it just use samba as its authentication then, huh?
[10:10] <Justi1> what version of dell drivers should I download to use in ubuntu?
[10:10] <gerard> endy_, that was supposed to tell you about glipper or if you use kde klipper
[10:10] <ratkymarcell> ...the volume but not the tune :-(
[10:10] <blubloblu_> vox754: I can't find the link
[10:10] <ratkymarcell> may someone help, please.
[10:10] <endy_> no it gnome
[10:10] <iamlindoro> that is, samba without ldap
[10:10] <ilikec0ws> Justil Chances are you wont need many drivers
[10:10] <blubloblu_> vox754: I've found a few threads though, I'll go look there
[10:10] <Apple> Hazler
[10:10] <vox754> blubloblu_, that's the spirit!
[10:11] <CaptainM> gerard, I use the mediaplayerconnectivity plugin for divx and it works like a charm.
[10:11] <iamlindoro> Justil, dunno which you need but Ubuntu Server installs without addition drivers on all Poweredge machines
[10:11] <endy_> yes it is glipper
[10:11] <endy_> is not be installet
[10:11] <endy_> i install now 10 allot
[10:11] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: it still says the errors about wacom, im gonna try and find it again
[10:11] <endy_> :)
[10:11] <gerard> CaptainM, what is the process in getting this
[10:11] <vox754> ratkymarcell, I suggest becoming an opera singer... seriously, no clue
[10:11] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: Have a good read, I suspect maybe under the ServerLayout section
[10:12] <Justi1> iamlindoro: I have a dell brand network card, and ubuntu can't even detect it
[10:12] <CaptainM> gerard wait one sec
[10:12] <fusion400> Hello i am having serious problem with my Realtek 8139 network card. When i do an lsmod | grep 8139 there seems to be too drivers 8139too which is the one loaded and another one called 8139cp how do i change to the 8139cp one ?
[10:12] <LukeEkblad> yo yo yo
[10:12] <LukeEkblad> S'up?
[10:12] <ratkymarcell> vox754:  the problem is not my voice :DDD but the program distorts it
[10:12] <PriceChild> hi LukeEkblad
[10:12] <ali_tenes> hay
[10:12] <noodles12> Using feisty. WHen going to "places>networks" sometimes it'll show the networked XP computers in the MSHOME workgroup and sometimes it wont' recognize them. What is the reason for this unreliability?
[10:13] <kaktuskatta> Hi! I'm unable to detect my external HDD under Feisty! This used to work, but when I type lsusb in the terminal, nothing happens!
[10:13] <odix> where can i download the new madwifi ubuntu repositorie? I can't get wireless etup on ubuntu, got an atheros chipset card it recognizes it but theres no wireless tools on standard install ? Can someone help me
[10:13] <fusion400> I have tried using the blacklist alternative and typing "blacklist 8139too" does not seem to work i simply want the 8139cp driver to load instead of the 8139too one.
[10:13] <LukeEkblad> PriceChild:    Yo
[10:13] <LukeEkblad> Well, gtg just droping in
[10:14] <Justi1> noodles12: XP will make MSHOME the default workgroup on some windows computers
[10:14] <kaktuskatta> Previously a window used to pop up when I connected the disk to the usb-
[10:14] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: i cant find anything in xorg.conf having to do with wacom but the xorg.0.log still gave me the wacom errors
[10:14] <eauxnguyen> iamlindoro: I'm interested in your existing samba to ldap problem - I need to put an ubuntu server in where I have a samba serving as a pdc
[10:14] <kaktuskatta> Help me please.....
[10:14] <CaptainM> gerard, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/446
[10:14] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: Maybe you should just config a new xorg.conf?
[10:14] <gerard> CaptainM, nice one found it
[10:14] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: ok
[10:14] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: I dont know if you can use xorgcfg
[10:15] <odix> anyone ?
[10:15] <Shiverz> bash can only find program files in your $PATH variable?
[10:15] <noodles12> Justi1: i meant "MSHOME" sorry. what i mean is why does feisty sometimes recognize those computers and sometimes it doesn't? is smb not loading? and which log file do i check to find that out?
[10:15] <eauxnguyen> I thought about creating new machine & user accounts on the ldap and running them parallel until all satisfied. I only have quickbooks an act to contend with though
[10:15] <odix> know why wireless won't work ?
[10:15] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: Try that first if not X -configure, but id check the conf it creates for wacom
[10:15] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: you're gonna need to hold my hand through it though, i tried it once and i had to re-install
[10:15] <kaktuskatta> The disk works fine under Windows, so there's some config problem somewhere
[10:15] <Zxcs> does anyone know if I can use apt-get to get the metasploit framework?
[10:15] <Shiverz> and that's were all your apps are kept always? (unless you specify otherwise)
[10:15] <systemd0wn> using Open Office Draw for like the first time... anyone be able to help me with something?
[10:15] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: xorgcfg is quite self explainatory
[10:16] <systemd0wn> can you make multiple pages in one Open Office Draw file?
[10:16] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: fatal server error:
[10:16] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: What did you run? X -configure?
[10:16] <neverblue> i am finding that my second DB I add in pgAdmin III is not keeping, I have it run as root, but the DB info is not being stored
[10:16] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: what command do i need to run?
[10:17] <neverblue> is there this 'type' of issue with pgAdmin III ?
[10:17] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: first try....xorgcfg (Might not work) Then try X -configure
[10:17] <Justi1> Are there any other linux distributions that use .deb ?
[10:17] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: oh i did both
[10:17] <neverblue> Justi1, debian
[10:17] <neverblue> which is what ubuntu is based on
[10:17] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: X -configure was the one with the server error
[10:18] <fusion400> Is there anyone here who knows how one switches between different drivers in Ubuntu ?
[10:18] <Morrissey> hi, I would like to convert/decode a normal divx file to fit my smartphone with linux (together with shrinking the file size)... my smartphone uses a 320x320 resolution
[10:18] <kaktuskatta> Anyone with disk problem experience that can help me out?!
[10:18] <neverblue> fusion400, for what?
[10:18] <tarzeau> kaktuskatta: sure?
[10:18] <fusion400> neverblue: a realtek 8139 network card.
[10:18] <neverblue> Morrissey, try #tovid?
[10:18] <systemd0wn> please excuse my stupid question...
[10:18] <neverblue> fusion400, switch between drivers?
[10:19] <fusion400> neverblue: i have tried everything to make it switch from the 8139too driver to the 8139cp driver.
[10:19] <Morrissey> neverblue, is that a program, or?
[10:19] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: Id check your logs again see why its giving you fatal error :)
[10:19] <kaktuskatta> tarzeau: I'm unable to mount my ext. HDD in Feisty! This used to work automaticly, but now nothing happens when I type lsusb!
[10:19] <Zxcs> whats a good audio player for linux? im looking for something similar to foobar2k for windows
[10:19] <Zenji> FUCK
[10:19] <tarzeau> kaktuskatta: tried to remove, reinsert it?
[10:19] <neverblue> Morrissey, on irc, channels are designated with a hash (#), so that would mean its a channel on freenode
[10:19] <Morrissey> Zxcs, amarok ... definatly
[10:19] <kaktuskatta> yup
[10:19] <neverblue> !language Zenji
[10:19] <tarzeau> Zxcs: i don't know foobar2k, but i like opencubicplayer a lot
[10:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about language zenji - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:19] <neverblue> !language | Zenji
[10:19] <kaktuskatta> tarzeau: the system hangs
[10:19] <ubotu> Zenji: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:19] <fusion400> neverblue: yes because there seems to be something wrong with 8139too driver i am trying to change it another one thats also included with ubuntu called 8139cp.
[10:19] <tarzeau> kaktuskatta: the whole system? ouch
[10:20] <Zxcs> Morrissey: thanks, Il check it out
[10:20] <neverblue> fusion400, google?
[10:20] <hardwarehank> hey
[10:20] <Zenji> :-|
[10:20] <kaktuskatta> tarzeau: well, only the terminal window
[10:20] <Zenji> Uh no warnings?
[10:20] <tarzeau> kaktuskatta: hehe, that's not the whole system :)
[10:20] <hardwarehank> how can I install ubuntu on a pre-existing ext3 partition
[10:20] <fusion400> neverblue: yes i have googled i have tried to blacklist the 8139too driver from loading but it does not work.
[10:20] <hardwarehank> no formatting
[10:20] <kaktuskatta> tarzeau: and then it loosens up after a while, seems like some sort of timeout
[10:20] <tarzeau> kaktuskatta: does dmesg say something? what happens if you check with file what's on it? does it mount? if not, can you manually mount it?
[10:20] <neverblue> fusion400, i am not capable enough, nor do I have the time to troubleshoot with you, sorry
[10:21] <llllllll> I've got loads of photos organised into folders and subfolders. Is there a program that will allow me to slideshow all the pictures in a folder AND its subfolders? As in, I specify a folder to slideshow, and it doesn't have any photos itself, just subfolders with lots of photos in there, and it plays through all of them?
[10:21] <fusion400> neverblue: ok
[10:21] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: not it has no wacom errors just "Caught signal 11.  Server aborting"
[10:21] <tarzeau> llllllll: yes, feh
[10:21] <Justi1> How do I enable 'Universe'?
[10:21] <Lazureus> my ubuntu blew up
[10:21] <tarzeau> llllllll: just try feh -zZr *
[10:21] <asdf_> Can anyone help me without of control ram I'm at 22% in use by programs and 78% in use as cache?  Can I lower the cache significantly?
[10:21] <neverblue> hardwarehank, be a bit more clear, what do you want to do?
[10:21] <kaktuskatta> tarzeau: device not accepting address 14, error -110
[10:21] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: Check your graphics drivers line inside /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:21] <tarzeau> kaktuskatta: yeah that's a problem
[10:21] <fusion400> neverblue: seems to be really hard to do i was hopeing ubuntu had some kind of list where u could simply edit a list and make it load another driver.
[10:21] <llllllll> tarzeau, is it in the repositories?
[10:21] <craigbass1976> Justi1, I think it's commented out in your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[10:21] <preaction> !repositories | Justi1
[10:21] <neverblue> asdf_, you wouldnt want to
[10:21] <ubotu> Justi1: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:21] <craigbass1976> Justi1, just uncomment it
[10:21] <tarzeau> llllllll: i got debian, most software of debian is also there for ubuntu
[10:21] <Shiverz> justil: System > Admin > Software Sources
[10:21] <hardwarehank> neverblue: i have an ext3 partition with a bunch of data on it in a dir called 'old'.  I want to install ubuntu on that partition.
[10:21] <Lazureus> my old hardware was intel mobo, P4 2.6ghz, onboard soundmax, some onboard NIC and an ATI Radeon 9600 pro,. i moved my HDs into a newer intel mobo, onboard sigmatel sound, another kind of onboard NIC, and onboard intel video
[10:21] <llllllll> OK, thanks
[10:22] <kaktuskatta> tarzeau: what does it mean and how did this happen?
[10:22] <Justi1> I tried searching for it in respetories, but I couldn't find it
[10:22] <Lazureus> i cant get into X, Xorg -configure doesn't work (fatal error: caught signal 11) and i dont know what else to do
[10:22] <Lazureus> i' logged in as root in the text mode console
[10:22] <tarzeau> kaktuskatta: does the disk make funny noise?
[10:22] <knix> tarzeau: except it's broken!
[10:22] <knix> LOL!
[10:22] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: it says "fglrx"
[10:22] <asdf_> neverblue: Why not? my fan is runs like crazy when it's like this
[10:22] <neverblue> hardwarehank, and keep the /old dir?
[10:22] <hardwarehank> neverblue: yes - important data
[10:22] <tarzeau> knix: the ubuntu stuff? definitely :) hi btw
[10:22] <Lazureus> oh and /etc/init.d/gdm restart gives me this log:
[10:22] <kaktuskatta> tarzeau: the disk works fine under windows, and sounds normal
[10:22] <knix> tarzeau: :D
[10:22] <tarzeau> kaktuskatta: *shrug*
[10:22] <Lazureus> http://s77.photobucket.com/albums/j67/Lazureus/Locale/?action=view&current=DSC01631.jpg
[10:22] <Ghaz> how do i edit the contents of a file before i recompile it?
[10:22] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: Try changing it to vesa just for now and starting your X
[10:22] <Shiverz> Lazureus: mixing 1's and l's is evil, evil programmers
[10:23] <neverblue> hardwarehank, to install the OS, you will need to format the partition, I believe
[10:23] <neverblue> but I have been wrong
[10:23] <BigBen_> Everytime i try to install something like xchat, i keep getting an error:
[10:23] <Templar> is there a stable version of fusion for ubuntu fiesty yet
[10:23] <BigBen_> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/ntp_1%3a4.2.2.p4+dfsg-1ubuntu3_i386.deb: files list file for package `human-icon-theme' is missing final newline
[10:23] <hardwarehank> neverblue: isnt that kindof lame when all the other distros let you do that?
[10:23] <Shiverz> Templar: no
[10:23] <neverblue> asdf_, you have reason to believe that your RAM is causing a fan to run your fan faster?
[10:23] <kaktuskatta> tarzeau: very annoying, since it used to work great
[10:23] <Templar> is the version available running ok
[10:23] <neverblue> hardwarehank, now your just asking for an opinion
[10:23] <ilikec0ws> Lazureus: last time i got a signal 11 I had the wrong driver inside xorg.conf
[10:23] <tarzeau> kaktuskatta: tried rebooting?
[10:23] <hardwarehank> neverblue: yes
[10:23] <fusion400> Is there anyone here who knows which file must be edited to switch drivers for an ethernet card ? I have been searching all day for an answer.
[10:24] <asdf_> neverblue: ahh good point
[10:24] <Lazureus> so how do i make it use the right one then?
[10:24] <kaktuskatta> tarzeau: this is a fresh session
[10:24] <tarzeau> kaktuskatta: i've seen some kernels get foobared, and a reboot helped, try another usb slot too
[10:24] <neverblue> hardwarehank, as I said, I maybe wrong
[10:24] <tarzeau> kaktuskatta: yes it happens. usb is useless-serial-bus :)
[10:24] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: i use the driver from ati's site, does that matter?
[10:24] <neverblue> asdf_, use top (in cli)
[10:24] <Justi1> why isn't Universe in my repository? It goes from 'units-filter' to 'unixcw'
[10:24] <Shiverz> Templar: well it runs okay for me but it's still a bit buggy, if you can live with that, then sure give it a go
[10:24] <hardwarehank> neverblue: so where do I go to officially ask for this to be fixed?
[10:24] <neverblue> to see what processes are running
[10:24] <tarzeau> kaktuskatta: you know unix never had removable storage for so long time, then suddenly some funny people invent floppy drives
[10:24] <craigbass1976> /etc/init.d/apache2 start does NOT work.  Stop does though, and /usr/sbin/apache2/apache2ctl start works too.  Why won't the init.d apache starting work; the script appears to be pointing in the right direction.  I have a hard time believing I'm the only one having this problem with a fresh apache2 install, but can't see anything in the forums
[10:24] <Templar> Shiverz cheers will do
[10:24] <neverblue> hardwarehank, no idea, im just like you, looking for answers to my questions
[10:24] <tarzeau> kaktuskatta: and then crazy people invent usb storage
[10:24] <Zxcs> best bittorrent program for linux?
[10:24] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: I dont think it should, try switiching to the open source/vesa driver just for now, lets see if we can get X to start, and i know nothing about ATi im afraid :)
[10:24] <hardwarehank> neverblue: ha ok then - thanks
[10:24] <DjViper> fusion400: you need to uninstall one driver (blacklist) and add an other to the kernel
[10:25] <kaktuskatta> tarzeau: is it possible that the problem is caused by disconnection of the plug?
[10:25] <Shiverz> Templar: if it doesnt work for you you can always uninstall it :)
[10:25] <MrElendig> Zxcs: azureus/rtorrent
[10:25] <preaction> tarzeau: tape drives have been around forever :p
[10:25] <Zxcs> oh azureus works on linux? nice
[10:25] <Templar> yep
[10:25] <oasisfai> quit
[10:25] <MrElendig> tarzeau: pounch cards
[10:25] <MrElendig> :D
[10:25] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: i got a black screen again only now the cursor is an "X"
[10:25] <BigBen_> i've gone to the forums to get support, but i keep being ignored, can i get some support please?
[10:25] <Ominous> is there another way to run sh files than ./file.sh
[10:25] <tarzeau> MrElendig: DIE! :)
[10:25] <Shiverz> Templar: look for the big Fusion thread on Ubunut general forums and follow the guide.
[10:25] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: I feel like killing your pc :), mind?
[10:25] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: only if i can watch
[10:25] <tarzeau> preaction: ick, i know, still used to store masses of new data (VLT and other places)
[10:26] <benjamindees> Ominous, /bin/sh ./file.sh
[10:26] <kaktuskatta> tarzeau: This is supposed to work fine, but you never know about linux...I got this warning once that I should disconnect from software first, but as long as I don't write or read from the disk I ignored the warning.......
[10:26] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: ^^, Which driver did you change too?
[10:26] <tarzeau> kaktuskatta: maybe, the usb interface is not very genious
[10:26] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: vesa
[10:26] <benjamindees> Ominous, /bin/bash ./file.sh
[10:26] <tarzeau> kaktuskatta: indeed, it's pretty poor design
[10:26] <noodles12> is samba installed by default? what does feisty use to access the networked windows computers?
[10:26] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: Id try the open source ATi one shame i dont know the name of it :(
[10:26] <tarzeau> kaktuskatta: i really don't like movable parts
[10:26] <kaktuskatta> tarzeau: so....is there some "log" that might be causing the problems?
[10:26] <PriceChild> noodles12, no and samba.
[10:26] <tarzeau> kaktuskatta: yes, dmesg :)
[10:27] <kaktuskatta> tarzeau: is it possible to reset this one? Is this done automaticly when I reboot?
[10:27] <wastred_> is there any command that i could use to switch off my monitor?
[10:27] <noodles12> PriceChild: I have not installed samba. but sometimes when going to "places>network" feisty will recognize the shared folders from my xp machines and i can access them. If it's not using samba than what's goin on?
[10:27] <ilikec0ws> The default ATi driver line name anyone?
[10:28] <tarzeau> kaktuskatta: yes, really i don't know. usb is cheap
[10:28] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: what would happen if i put "ati" in the line?
[10:28] <tarzeau> kaktuskatta: i prefer 500 gb disks :)
[10:28] <knix> ilikec0ws: catalyst?
[10:28] <askand> Im trying to print on a new printer but it just prints on 1/4 of an A4...why?
[10:28] <tarzeau> kaktuskatta: e-sata if it must be hotpluggable
[10:28] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: Try it you cant really break X, it jsut wont start
[10:28] <knix> eSATA is the shit!
[10:28] <wastred_> is there any command that i could use to switch off my monitor?
[10:28] <PriceChild> noodles12, maybe samba's just for serving, not just being a client
[10:28] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: so we'll be where we are now
[10:28] <knix> esata + zfs = opensolaris>linux
[10:29] <tarzeau> knix: http://sata.istheshit.net/
[10:29] <benjamindees> noodles12, there is a cifs kernel module but I'm not sure if ubuntu uses it
[10:29] <tarzeau> knix: zfs my ass , i hate sun
[10:29] <baikonur> can somebody recommend a PCMCIA (at least) Fast Ethernet card?
[10:29] <knix> tarzeau: hahaha
[10:29] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: Did you get a signal 11 with the frglx drivers?
[10:29] <d4rkmonkey> Hey, I got my optical drive working with "sudo modprobe piix" but when I restarted, it stopped working. How do I permanantly "modprobe" it?
[10:29] <kaktuskatta> tarzeau: -c     Clear the ring buffer contents after printing.
[10:29] <kaktuskatta> (paste from man dmesg)
[10:29] <tarzeau> knix: lol http://ide.istheshit.net/
[10:29] <kaktuskatta> tarzeau: an option
[10:29] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: yea i think so
[10:29] <tarzeau> kaktuskatta: no
[10:29] <knix> I'm not going there at work :'(
[10:29] <tarzeau> kaktuskatta: it just clears the ring buffer :)
[10:29] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: Nice :(
[10:30] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: yea, im getting ready to throw this off the roof of my building
[10:30] <kaktuskatta> tarzeau: so you suggest a reboot, with or without the ext. HDD running?
[10:30] <tarzeau> kaktuskatta: doesn't matter imho
[10:30] <d4rkmonkey> !modprobe
[10:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about modprobe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:30] <d4rkmonkey> hmm
[10:30] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: wait something happened, still not good but different
[10:30] <d4rkmonkey> I'll check man pages...
[10:30] <Pelo> !info modprobe
[10:30] <ubotu> Package modprobe does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[10:30] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: I was hoping maybe the open source drivers would at least give you a GUI
[10:30] <kaktuskatta> tarzeau: I'll give it a shot
[10:30] <kaktuskatta> :)
[10:31] <Justi1> How can I make the "windows" key on my keyboard do stuff? (Like open the applications menu)?
[10:31] <craigbass1976> d4rkmonkey, google for permentantly adding kernel modules.  I can't remember how I did it, but it's how I used to get my wireless card working in the pre 2.6.17 kernels
[10:31] <RkyRaccoon> ilike cows: soft lockup detected on CPU#0
[10:31] <Pelo> Justi1,  menu > system > prefs > keybaord shortcuts
[10:31] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: Never heard of that error ^^
[10:31] <benjamindees> d4rkmonkey, add it to /etc/modules-somethingoranother
[10:31] <gaten> im having real problems w/ feisty on my fujitsu laptop. ethernet and wireless  do not work at all, and neither do usb devices. nothing shows up ion dmesg when i plug in a usb stick. eth0 gives me the error "ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready". anyone wanna help me get networking up at least?
[10:32] <Pelo> gaten,  look up your model in the forum see if there are knowns issues and fixes
[10:32] <nixnoob> hey anyone know how to remove the mounted drive's iconf rom desktop without unmounting it?
[10:32] <CaptainM> firefox always crashes when I close a tab with a movie playing in a flash player (youtube or something) any thoughts? This only happens when I close a tab. Not when I close the whole window
[10:32] <rockets> How can I specify how much video ram I have in xorg.conf, aside from sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:33] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: [38.100000]  BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0
[10:33] <benjamindees> d4rkmonkey, used to be /etc/modules, now it may be something like /etc/modules.d
[10:33] <Zxcs> I want to install the dev kits that will allow me to compile programs written in Ruby, what is the apt-get command to aquire them?
[10:33] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: Where is this showing up? xorg log?
[10:33] <gaten> pel ihave been for weeks. nothing
[10:33] <craigbass1976> OHMYGODTHATWASSTUPID!!!!
[10:33] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: after the loading screen instead of the black screen i get a small log that shows this at the end
[10:33] <craigbass1976> fixed it...
[10:34] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: That I have no ideas about im afraid
[10:34] <ReMeMBeR> hi
[10:34] <craigbass1976> ReMeMBeR, hey there
[10:34] <Justi1> How do I minimize a fullscreen program?
[10:34] <mhz`> Zxcs, go to system > administration > synaptics program manger
[10:35] <geek_pclos> i need some help, is there a support channel
[10:35] <mhz`> use the search feature and type in ruby
[10:35] <geek_pclos> i have tried install ubuntu like 10 times now and it doesn't work lol
[10:35] <odix> k..got my laptop next to my desktop...can someone help me get my wireless card up in ubuntu so i can get rid of this laptop running xp ?
[10:35] <ilikec0ws> geek_pclos: Your in it im afraid
[10:35] <PriceChild> !doesn't work | geek_pclos
[10:35] <mhz`> why kinda install?
[10:35] <ubotu> geek_pclos: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[10:35] <mhz`> odix, what kinda wireless card?
[10:35] <geek_pclos> im trying to install the new
[10:35] <geek_pclos> 7.04
[10:35] <odix> I'm running an atheros pci card, i just downloaded and installed the newest madwifi-ng tools and wifi-radar
[10:35] <mhz`> live or alternative
[10:35] <geek_pclos> live
[10:36] <mhz`> i've never used an atheros...i got broadcom
[10:36] <ilikec0ws> geek_pclos: And what are you going to install it on?
[10:36] <geek_pclos> my 320 gig hard drive
[10:36] <ilikec0ws> geek_pclos: Desktop?
[10:36] <mhz`> using the entire 320gb?
[10:36] <geek_pclos> yea Desktop
[10:36] <Justi1> is there a command that I can use to enable Universe?
[10:36] <odix> in device manager, it says atheros ar5212 802.11abg NIC
[10:36] <ilikec0ws> Okay dokey, any error messages ask around in here :)
[10:37] <odix> device type: uknown capabilities: unknown
[10:37] <stetran> just a quick question, reckon ubuntu would run on a P3 450mhz 1gb RAM?
[10:37] <mhz`> odix, have a look at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38972
[10:37] <ilikec0ws> Justil in terminal type gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list find the universe ones and un comment them then save that document
[10:37] <llllllll> feh is amazing! Thanks to whoever suggested it
[10:37] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: now im back to the good old black screen
[10:37] <CaptainM> Justi1, go to system > administrtion > synaptic
[10:37] <dissection> Hi, the icons on my desktop just disappeared.. Also I'm not able to open any folders.. what do I do?
[10:37] <PriceChild> stetran, yes.
[10:37] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: Honestly............Has it ever worked?
[10:37] <Justi1> CaptainM: I tried that, but Universe isn't listed
[10:37] <vzduch> anyone here already worked w/ IDJC (Internet DJ Console)?  the folks in #ubuntustudio don't even seem to know it
[10:37] <stetran> sweet,
[10:37] <stetran> :D
[10:37] <PriceChild> stetran, might want to go xubuntu though for better perfrmance
[10:38] <noodles12> PriceChild: so it maybe doesn't use samba for as a client to access the shares. Do you happen to know what it does because it seems to kick in and out and i'm trying to find the why i sometimes can or can't access the networked files.
[10:38] <PriceChild> noodles12, haven't a clue sorry
[10:38] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: yes, it worked with all the exact settings i have now, then it started going to the black screen at boot every now and then
[10:38] <stetran> roger
[10:38] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: it kept getting more and more frequent until now every time i boot ubuntu its a black screen
[10:38] <geek_pclos> the installer keeps failing at the end of the install
[10:39] <dissection> Hi, the icons on my desktop just disappeared.. Also I'm not able to open any folders.. what do I do?
[10:39] <stetran> hmm thats weird, that video problem i had, i closed beryl manager and it seems fine, and i still get the funky window effects :D
[10:39] <geek_pclos> with ubiquity or sumthing
[10:39] <CaptainM> Justi1, in a terminal type: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:39] <nixnoob> hey anyone know how to remove the mounted drive's iconf rom desktop without unmounting it?
[10:39] <geek_pclos> is it because of my hard drive?
[10:39] <geek_pclos> should i get the alternative?
[10:39] <agresor> Hello, is there any posible way that i Can connect   my SAMSUNG U900 cell phone to linux ? SAMSUNG PC studio for linux ? or something like that ?
[10:39] <stetran> wine?
[10:39] <numus> ericlieberman@Server:~$ /home/ericlieberman/.themes/Fusions/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:72: Unable to locate image file in pixmap_path: "efefef"
[10:39] <sindile> can one upgrade the kernel (from 2.6.20-16 to latest)
[10:39] <agresor> wine work with
[10:39] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: the same thing happened on a previous install, i fixed it by re-installing, i dont want to have to do that again
[10:39] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: ummm :(, I dont get it anymore, my brain hurts now
[10:39] <agresor> that ?
[10:39] <andreas_> Hi. Can someone plase help me get a working TYPO3 installion locally??
[10:40] <stetran> agresor dunno, is it a windows app?
[10:40] <RkyRaccoon> ilikecows: my computer is gonna start hurting if it doesnt work soon
[10:40] <CaptainM> Justi1, look for a line with 'universe' at the end, remove the '#' and save the file
[10:40] <agresor> stetran,  yes
[10:40] <stetran> guess it might then
[10:40] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: Planning on beating it up ay?
[10:40] <agresor> mhm
[10:40] <odix> hmm
[10:40] <agresor> wine support USB devices ?
[10:40] <stetran> agresor i managed to get a couple undocumented apps running on wine
[10:40] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: oh yea
[10:40] <Zxcs> why cant i do anything if i log in as root?
[10:40] <stetran> agresor, want me to find out? i can try install nokia suite for my phone
[10:40] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: Give it one from me :)
[10:41] <agresor> can you do that please.
[10:41] <agresor> :)
[10:41] <agresor>  ?
[10:41] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: im gonna go office space on this thing
[10:41] <stetran> agresor, trying now
[10:41] <agresor> stetran,  thank you.
[10:41] <Justi1> CaptainM: they are already uncomented. should I uncoment the ones that end in multiverse?
[10:41] <cromo> hi. I was about to install flashplugin today under feisty and couldn't because of md5sum mismatch. this is due to recent flash plugin update (to 0 9.0.47) - the package for feisty is still 9.0.36 IFRC. Any ideas? This is my girlfriend's desktop, I am archlinux guy so don't really know what is going on under ubuntu :)
[10:41] <nixnoob> how can I mount drives without the icon appearing on the desktop?
[10:41] <_odix> what does "ath_hal: module license 'Proprietary' taints kernel."
[10:41] <_odix> ?
[10:41] <CaptainM> Justi1, if you want to enable the multiverse repo's yeah
[10:42] <dissection> Hi, the icons on my desktop just disappeared.. Also I'm not able to open any folders.. what do I do? I'm using GNOME.. Please help
[10:42] <ianm_> what's the easiest way to use 2.6.22 in feisty?  (2.6.20 has broken support for my wifi card)
[10:42] <ilikec0ws> cromo: Just download the .tar.gz off the flash website its simple enough to install pal :)
[10:42] <agresor> dissection,  tryed to restart X ?
[10:42] <cromo> ilikec0ws: I know, but i'd rather use the debianized way
[10:42] <CaptainM> Justi1, if the lines ending in universe are uncommented then those repo's are enabled
[10:42] <dissection> I don't know how to do that, agresor
[10:42] <ilikec0ws> cromo: Unpack it...run ./flash-playerinstaller or something
[10:42] <mhz`> cromo, just use the source
[10:42] <mhz`> :)
[10:42] <agresor> ctrl + alt + backspace
[10:42] <IndyGunFreak> dissection: control alt shift
[10:42] <IndyGunFreak> control alt backspace
[10:42] <IndyGunFreak> sorry
[10:42] <_odix> "wifi%d: unable to attach hardware: 'Hardware didn't respond as expected' (HAL status 3)
[10:42] <ilikec0ws> cromo: Its easy enougha and works
[10:42] <ianm_> dissection: logging out/back in is the easiest.   or try Alt-F2 and type:  nautilus
[10:42] <Justi1> CaptainM: If they are enabled, I don't need to install them?
[10:43] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[10:43] <CaptainM> Justi1, nope that's it :)
[10:43] <IndyGunFreak> guess he decicded to use control alt backspace
[10:43] <ianm_> I guess he chose option 1 heh
[10:43] <mhz`> cromo, you can also do system > administration > synaptics
[10:43] <cromo> ilikec0ws: ok, I'll deal with it
[10:43] <IndyGunFreak> ianm_: lol
[10:43] <mhz`> nm, not listed there
[10:43] <Justi1> CaptainM: cool, thank you!
[10:43] <ilikec0ws> cromo: Want me to link you to the source thing?
[10:43] <agresor> stetran, any progres ?
[10:43] <stetran> downlodaing now
[10:43] <mhz`> cromo, hang on...i have another link for you that might be helpful
[10:43] <agresor> ah oke.
[10:43] <agresor> stetran,  do you think that this app, will run good in vmware  ?
[10:44] <_odix> thats weird ?
[10:44] <astroview120mm> # Appears as TONGTYED.
[10:44] <stetran> no idea agresor, i'm pretty new to this thing
[10:44] <jamman> _odix, what is?
[10:44] <ilikec0ws> cromo: http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&P2_Platform=Linux
[10:44] <stetran> agresor was just throwing ideas into the pot
[10:44] <mhz`> cromo, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[10:44] <_odix> wifi%d: unable to attach hardware: 'Hardware didn't respond as expected' (HAL status 3)
[10:44] <dissection> That didn't work :(
[10:44] <agresor> stetran, ah ok, i'm not sure that vmware support usb 2.0
[10:44] <cromo> ok, thanks
[10:44] <dissection> I'm not able to open any folders
[10:44] <jamman> _odix, yeah it is.
[10:44] <geek> when it asks for device for bootloader
[10:44] <geek> what should i enter?
[10:44] <nixnoob> how can I mount drives without the icon appearing on the desktop?
[10:44] <stetran> pizza brb!
[10:44] <ilikec0ws> mhz`: That doesnt work anymore
[10:45] <IndyGunFreak> dissection: have you tried doing a full restart?
[10:45] <astroview120mm> How do I use a wireless internet connection in ubuntu?
[10:45] <_odix> hardware problem ?
[10:45] <ilikec0ws> mhz`: I just tried it now theres been an update of some sort, md5 errors all day :)
[10:45] <geek> can someone help me
[10:45] <IndyGunFreak> !wireless | astroview120mm
[10:45] <ubotu> astroview120mm: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:45] <dissection> IndyGunFreak: Can't I fix it without restarting? I thought Linux was supposed to be stable :S
[10:45] <jamman> geek, the one you are installing ubuntu on. master is hd(0). I THNK!!!
[10:45] <jamman> somebody correct me.
[10:45] <IndyGunFreak> dissection: it is, but you obvioiusly did something
[10:45] <IndyGunFreak> it can't account for user errors.
[10:45] <dissection> I didn't do anything
[10:45] <ianm_> dissection: can you open a terminal (Applications / Accessories) and type nautilus and tell us what it says?
[10:45] <dissection> I can't restart either..
[10:45] <IndyGunFreak> dissection: thats what they all say
[10:45] <dissection> Nothing's working
[10:46] <Tinned_Tuna> heya, if a package installation has gone badly, what's the best course of action, it keeps on trying to install the package every time apt-get is run
[10:46] <IndyGunFreak> dissection: so youu were able to control alt backspace, but you can't restart?
[10:46] <dissection> ianm_: It doesn't say anything
[10:46] <IndyGunFreak> who's chain are youu pulling?
[10:46] <dissection> IndyGunFreak: Yes, thats right
[10:46] <IndyGunFreak> dissection: well, thats ridiculous.
[10:46] <ianm_> dissection: and no folder opens?
[10:46] <jamman> Tinned_Tuna, try "apt-get --fix-missing" i think
[10:47] <gnomefreak> sounds like X is hanging
[10:47] <dissection> ianm_: Yeah
[10:47] <Dusk_> !kiba-dock
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kiba-dock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <LordDragonSlayer> OK I finally got my computer repaired and, I decided to install ubuntu. But now I can't figure out how to get my Internet to work. I am using a router that goes to my dads windows xp and its all connected to a cabel modem. Please help!
[10:47] <Dusk_> !kiba
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kiba - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <gnomefreak> IndyGunFreak: its very reasonable as it sounds like X is hanging
[10:47] <ianm_> dissection: when you right-click on the desktop is there a menu?
[10:47] <jamman> Tinned_Tuna, try "apt-get install --fix-missing" i think
[10:47] <Tinned_Tuna> thanks jamman, I'll try that
[10:47] <IndyGunFreak> gnomefreak: my point is, if he can restart X, he can restart his PC.
[10:47] <jamman> let me check.
[10:47] <gnomefreak> jamman: sudo apt-get -f install :) its easier
[10:47] <agresor> stetran, still downloading ?
[10:47] <stetran> yup
[10:47] <IndyGunFreak> just choose restart from the login screen
[10:47] <jamman> gnomefreak, oh, good to know.
[10:47] <gnomefreak> IndyGunFreak: not if the menu doesnt load
[10:47] <agresor> stetran,  i think that is not success..
[10:48] <IndyGunFreak> then power down..lol
[10:48] <agresor> becouse u need to installed driver too..
[10:48] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon: Have you killed it yet?
[10:48] <agresor> not just suite
[10:48] <stetran> not trued tio instAll it yet
[10:48] <LordDragonSlayer> hey can someone give me a hand with a wirless usb network card
[10:48] <agresor> ok'e
[10:48] <jamman> LordDragonSlayer, i will try.
[10:48] <jamman> what kind is it?
[10:48] <LordDragonSlayer> I'm using a linksys router model number wrt54g and wusb54g and ubuntu version 7.04
[10:48] <sindile> anyone using the vodafone-mobile-connect-card-driver-for-linux on feisty, not working on my install
[10:49] <ilikec0ws> thats alot of -
[10:49] <jamman> i am having dejuavo
[10:49] <_odix> modprobe ath_pci gives me no errors however ifconfig shows no ath0
[10:49] <geek> in installing again
[10:49] <geek> i hope it works
[10:49] <LordDragonSlayer> huh?
[10:49] <_odix> i am stumped
[10:49] <ianm_> dissection: ?
[10:50] <geek> i change the boot loader from hd0
[10:50] <geek> to hd0,0
[10:50] <bitform> How do I switch between language inputs???
[10:50] <LordDragonSlayer> u dnt know, Jman
[10:50] <jamman> LordDragonSlayer, http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1115416827517&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&lid=2751762965B01
[10:50] <jamman> that the product?
[10:51] <LordDragonSlayer> 1 sec lemme see
[10:51] <stetran> agresor
[10:51] <stetran> whats ur phone
[10:51] <stetran> ?
[10:51] <dissection_> The logout menu showed up 5 minutes after I clicked on it. It didn't restart after I clicked on it... And it wouldn't let me type in irssi after that and won't let me close any windows either.. So I had to restart the computer physically.. What could have caused this?
[10:51] <agresor> samsung U900
[10:51] <agresor> U600
[10:51] <agresor> pardon :)
[10:51] <jamman> stetran, dont even think about it man.
[10:52] <agresor> jamman,  about what ?
[10:52] <sindile> anyone using the vodafone-mobile-connect-card-driver-for-linux on feisty, not working on my install
[10:52] <_odix> is anyone familiar with this
[10:52] <LordDragonSlayer> thats the one,jaman
[10:52] <jamman> LordDragonSlayer, also, what version? (check by the model number plz. it should say something like ver.X)
[10:52] <stetran> just trying to help the guy ;o
[10:52] <CaptainM> firefox always crashes when I close a tab with a movie playing in a flash player (youtube or something) any thoughts? This only happens when I close a tab. Not when I close the whole window.
[10:53] <LordDragonSlayer> um i gotA GO TO THE OTHER ROOM 1 SEC
[10:53] <numus> anyone familiar with gdesklets that can help out
[10:53] <geek> omg i really want ubuntu to work thiis time
[10:53] <jamman> agresor, phone #. duh. j/k
[10:53] <geek> im gonna past the error if i get one ok?
[10:53] <m-lund> Anyone who knows if there will be taken more care of the kolab packages in the Gutsy release? The ones for Feisty hardly works...
[10:53] <Littlegator> So does anyone have a fix to the random freeze problem?
[10:53] <dissection_> The logout menu showed up 5 minutes after I clicked on it. It didn't restart after I clicked on it... And it wouldn't let me type in irssi after that and won't let me close any windows either.. So I had to restart the computer physically.. What could have caused this?
[10:54] <vbabiy> hey where can I find a archive of this IRC Channel
[10:54] <geek> didn't work lol
[10:54] <geek> darn
[10:54] <LordDragonSlayer> jamman, it dosent say but im positive its two becaus the soft ware Has the drivers for 1 and 2
[10:55] <jamman> LordDragonSlayer, okie dokie artichokie.
[10:55] <jamman> hey everybody, what are your recomendations for a router. (wireless preferably.
[10:55] <jamman> )
[10:55] <CaptainM> numus, you'll get more/ faster help if you just state your question (in a concise way) instead of asking for people to focus on you before knowing what the problem is.
[10:55] <bullium> has anyone actually had drag and drop work with file roller...drag a directory or file from an archive to the desktop or home directory?
[10:55] <jamman> LordDragonSlayer, ok. well download the drivers for windows.
[10:55] <numus> the question is why is gdesklets loading into only 1 workspace sometimes
[10:55] <geek> does ubuntu support have like a remote assist or sumthin?
[10:55] <numus> othertimes they load so they aren't in the windows bar and are on all workspaces
[10:55] <jaro> can somebody help me figure out why my webcam-driver won't get loaded anymore ????
[10:56] <LordDragonSlayer> umm how do i do that, jamman
[10:56] <Kajmak> my ubuntu is a piece of shit
[10:56] <LordDragonSlayer> <---total linux nub
[10:56] <jamman> next, LordDragonSlayer, visit ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net and download the latest stable pacakge.
[10:56] <jamman> LordDragonSlayer, just go to the linksys website.
[10:56] <ConstyXIV> geek: system->prefs->remote desktop
[10:56] <Kajmak> it hardly sees any hardweare i own
[10:56] <jamman> http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_CASupport_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1166859843775&packedargs=sku%3D1115416827517&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&lid=4377527517B03&displaypage=download#versiondetail
[10:56] <Kajmak> its useless
[10:56] <Littlegator> !ohmy Kajmak
[10:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ohmy kajmak - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:56] <Kajmak> totaly
[10:56] <Jack_Sparrow> troll
[10:57] <Littlegator> !ohmy | Kajmak
[10:57] <ubotu> Kajmak: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:57] <vbabiy> !archive
[10:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about archive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:57] <vbabiy> !log
[10:57] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[10:57] <CaptainM> numus, I actually can't help you but if you ask questions like that people know what they need to know (if I make sense). I'm not trying to put you down or something but this'll help in the future :P
[10:57] <ConstyXIV> geek: you use any oll VNC client to connect, from anywhere
[10:57] <LordDragonSlayer> umm im not on the computer im trying to dl it on and i dont hAVE a wAYT TO GET IT ON TO THE COMPUTER
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[10:57] <LordDragonSlayer> (KEYBOard is broken
[10:57] <LordDragonSlayer> )
[10:57] <Littlegator> Does anyone have a fix for the random Ubuntu freezing?
[10:57] <Kajmak> FUCK U ALL
[10:57] <jamman> LordDragonSlayer, that could be problematic.
[10:57] <_odix> ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````sorry
[10:57] <_odix> sorry
[10:58] <LordDragonSlayer> yes
[10:58] <jamman> Pricey, wow!
[10:58] <_odix> i was leaning on the button
[10:58] <_odix> sorry.
[10:58] <jamman> i want to be able to do that.
[10:58] <_odix> i got two keyboards on me
[10:58] <stetran> you're wearing keyboards?
[10:58] <LordDragonSlayer> can u use a disk that has stuff on it
[10:58] <Pricey> _odix, Ok we accept your apology, now please cease with the offtopicness :)
[10:58] <uther_zzz> Does anybody have any experience with xubuntu on a sony vario 505 type labtop?
[10:59] <geek> Hey guys i think my hard driver has bad sectors and that's why the installation keeps failing
[10:59] <jamman> LordDragonSlayer, such as a flash drive? yes you should be able to.
[10:59] <geek> how do i clean it up?
[10:59] <ConstyXIV> LordDragonSlayer: define "Stuff"
[10:59] <sindile> kernel panic when using vodafone-mobile-connect-card-driver-for-linux
[10:59] <jamman> geek, try doing a complete format some how.
[10:59] <Jack_Sparrow> geek: where does it fail..
[10:59] <LordDragonSlayer> no flsh drives either >.<,jAMMan
[10:59] <geek> it's about the fail
[10:59] <geek> im installing right now
[10:59] <Jack_Sparrow> geek: does it go into an error loop checking
[10:59] <geek> ill let u know when it gets there
[10:59] <Jack_Sparrow> geek: Is this an older laptop
[11:00] <geek> no
[11:00] <geek> new Desktop
[11:00] <Jack_Sparrow> geek what hardware
[11:00] <LordDragonSlayer> jAMMan: no flsh drives either >.<
[11:00] <geek> amd64 3700+
[11:00] <jamman> LordDragonSlayer, an extra hard drive?
[11:00] <geek> ati x800 xl
[11:00] <geek> and 1gig of ram
[11:00] <LordDragonSlayer> jAMMan: nope
[11:00] <Jack_Sparrow> geek: running sata raid setup?
[11:00] <jamman> LordDragonSlayer, CD-R?
[11:00] <geek> yea
[11:00] <jamman> Internet?
[11:00] <TaJMoX> Hi, I need a program that will stream audio to a shoutcast server, thanks!
[11:00] <Jack_Sparrow> !raid
[11:00] <ubotu> Raid and LVM --> very easy guide for alternate CD : http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[11:01] <agresor> stetran,  i tryed.. no success..
[11:01] <agresor> ;((
[11:01] <stetran> boo :[
[11:01] <gaten> TaJMoX: ive heard good things about icecast
[11:01] <LordDragonSlayer> jAMmAN: ummm ill tAKE a a gAME CD and just wipe it AND GET THE FILE HOOLD ON LEMME GO GETa cd brb
[11:01] <richard> go get em tiger!
[11:02] <jamman> LordDragonSlayer, ok. it is a cd-r one, right?
[11:02] <LordDragonSlayer> jAMMan: cd-r?
[11:03] <TaJMoX> gaten thanks!
[11:03] <jamman> LordDragonSlayer, cd-recordable, or cd-rw, cd-rewriteable.
[11:03] <LordDragonSlayer> i dnt know
[11:03] <jamman> basically, its not a regualr cd, right?
[11:03] <LordDragonSlayer> o yeA
[11:03] <LordDragonSlayer> OF COURSE
[11:03] <odix> ok...heres my dmesg | less output..have to type it out cause its on another comp.. ahh
[11:03] <jamman> k, then go ahead. trust me. many people are... not that bright.
[11:03] <Pricey> !caps | LordDragonSlayer
[11:03] <ubotu> LordDragonSlayer: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:04] <imbecile> what is a good alternative to itunes for linux?
[11:04] <magnetron> imbecile: rhythmbox
[11:04] <jamman> imbecile, amarok!
[11:04] <LordDragonSlayer> my key boARD IS BROKEN EVERY TIME I PRESS a it chANGES ON and off cAPS and not
[11:04] <jamman> LordDragonSlayer, that sucks.
[11:04] <jamman> lol..
[11:04] <darwin81> Would installing a command line system from the Xubuntu Alternate CD do the same as installing a command line system from the Ubuntu Alternate CD?
[11:05] <LordDragonSlayer> yep
[11:05] <IndyGunFreak> darwin81: pretty much
[11:05] <kerik> hey guys...anybody in here know what normal temp. for a Pentium 4 Prescott 3.0 Ghz is?
[11:05] <imbecile> magnetron, jamman , i can control my ipod with it?
[11:05] <numus> whenever firefox opens it keeps going ot the home www.%u.com even though that isn't what home is set to
[11:05] <numus> any ideas?
[11:05] <jamman> imbecile, amarok you can for sure.
[11:05] <kerik> know it's off topic, but I really don't know anywhere else to look..
[11:05] <jamman> be sure to install the extra codecs tho.
[11:06] <odix> ath_hal: module License 'Proprietary' taints kernel. []  ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:02:00.0[a]  -> GSI 21 (level, low) -> IRQ 21 []  ACPI: PCI interrupt for device disabled
[11:06] <Littlegator> My computer freezes randomly, usually sometime after being logged in for 40 minutes. If I have firefox open, it freezes within 15 minutes. If I don't log on, within about 10 minutes it freezes. Ctrl+alt+backspace and Ctrl+alt+f2 don't work at all after the freeze and I have to hard reboot.
[11:06] <Jack_Sparrow> kerik: what are you using to check your temp?
[11:06] <LordDragonSlayer> jaMMan: Can u send me thAT LINK agAIN
[11:06] <jamman> http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_CASupport_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1166859843775&packedargs=sku%3D1115416827517&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&lid=4377527517B03&displaypage=download#versiondetail
[11:06] <mx-zoom> kerik: what temp are you getting?
[11:06] <Jack_Sparrow> kerik: I have the same cpu and I will check mine for you.. but they do run warm
[11:06] <kerik> Jack_Sparrow, Sounds good...thanks
[11:07] <kerik> mx-zoom, I get about 60-70 Celcius
[11:07] <odix> ;[
[11:07] <Jack_Sparrow> kerik: Just want to use the same program just to compare apples to apples etc
[11:07] <odix> are those channel errors ?
[11:07] <odix> anyone know why my wifi card worked when i first put it in
[11:07] <kerik> Jack_Sparrow, I checked in my Bios, but if you know a good app then Im game
[11:07] <odix> and not now ?
[11:07] <Zxcs> what is the apt-get command to get all the ruby packages?
[11:07] <itrebal> odix: try taking it out and putting it in again :P?
[11:08] <Jack_Sparrow> kerik: LEt me look at sensor options
[11:08] <kerik> Jack_Sparrow, however it would be great if it could be a windows based one, as that comp run windows
[11:08] <odix> tried 10 times
[11:08] <kerik> Jack_Sparrow, for sure
[11:08] <odix> well twice
[11:08] <magnetron> odix: impossible to tell why. ask us how to fix it instead.
[11:08] <LordDragonSlayer> jAMMan:whAT EXactley do i nedA DOWNLOad from here?
[11:08] <kerik> mx-zoom, what you think about that kind of temp?
[11:08] <Jack_Sparrow> kerik: NP, I have windows on that box as well
[11:08] <odix> how would i fix ;p ?
[11:08] <mx-zoom> kerik: that should be normal. especially if you are using intel's cooler which sux
[11:08] <kerik> :) cool
[11:08] <Jack_Sparrow> kerik: should be fine
[11:09] <odix> wifi%d: unable to attach hardware...(hal status 3)
[11:09] <LordDragonSlayer> jAMMan:whAT EXactley do i nedA DOWNLOad from here?
[11:09] <jamman> the windows drivers, LordDragonSlayer
[11:09] <jamman> we will be making them work on linux.
[11:09] <kerik> Jack_Sparrow, mx-zoom I'm using Zalman 120 mm copper
[11:09] <itrebal> kerik: your core is probably just really hot
[11:09] <jamman> the windows drivers, LordDragonSlayer
[11:09] <itrebal> kerik: I had one idle around 45 - 50C
[11:09] <XLV> problematic shift key? spasms?
[11:09] <sblack> Hi, what measurement unit is the output of "ps" regarding the quantity of memory used by a process displayed in?
[11:09] <nweaver916> I'm having trouble configuring jumbo frames on my server
[11:09] <kerik> itrebal, yeah...seems that way...even at idle mode it reaches about 55-65 c
[11:09] <magnetron> are everyone repeating themselves?
[11:09] <itrebal> kerik: what core do you have?
[11:09] <Wass|> hi there
[11:10] <Littlegator> My computer freezes randomly, usually sometime after being logged in for 40 minutes. If I have firefox open, it freezes within 15 minutes. If I don't log on, within about 10 minutes it freezes. Ctrl+alt+backspace and Ctrl+alt+f2 don't work at all after the freeze and I have to hard reboot.
[11:10] <kerik> itrebal, Prescott
[11:10] <kerik> Jack_Sparrow, which app should we use?
[11:10] <odix> is it a hardware problem ?
[11:10] <itrebal> kerik: yup, its a hot core
[11:10] <Wass|> Anyone experienced 0.9x burning speed with growisofs ? it's my currect maximum speed on my 16x dvd burner
[11:10] <mx-zoom> kerik: don't know that cooler, but my P4 3.06HT runs at 70+ right from boot. you only should be worried when it gets to 90+. at leats that's what my experience has shown me. mu core duo 2.0 is at 55idle, for example
[11:10] <kerik> itrebal, just need to figure which target temp I should set for my system to get the most silent running...
[11:11] <odix> i just dont understand why it worked before i used it 4 straight ethernet connection then when i took it out now it doedsnt
[11:11] <XLV> mx-zoom, you got to tend to the air circulation of the cases
[11:11] <itrebal> kerik: I dunno, I've never worried about sound; my towers are all in a different room
[11:11] <kerik> mx-zoom, so I could actually set my target temp in BIOS to around 70 without loosing too much?
[11:11] <XLV> mx-zoom, c2d 6320 here, its at 42C idle, and still i want to lower it
[11:11] <kerik> itrebal, yeah ok...
[11:11] <LordDragonSlayer> JAMMan: fuck im hAVING a problem geting it on to the cd
[11:11] <Pricey> !ohmy | LordDragonSlayer
[11:11] <ubotu> LordDragonSlayer: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:12] <Pricey> LordDragonSlayer, and please stop with the caps.
[11:12] <mx-zoom> XLV: the P4 has it's box open. the laptop has a cooling pad underneath
[11:12] <XLV> mx-zoom, intel claims the ambient temperature should be <38C
[11:12] <jamman> !ohmy | LordDragonSlayer
[11:12] <julian> maybe not specific to ubuntu, but everytime i open a webpage with firefox, the fonts are really small. how can i make the text larger by default
[11:12] <nicholai> hi, I installed ubuntu-restricted-extras but flash plugins still don't work in firefox
[11:12] <XLV> mx-zoom, open box means no air circulation
[11:12] <fusheh__> =o
[11:12] <Pricey> nicholai, restart firefox?
[11:12] <nicholai> pricey: I did
[11:12] <mx-zoom> XLV: yes... but it is in a cold place. very cold acting as a server
[11:13] <Littlegator> My computer freezes randomly, usually sometime after being logged in for 40 minutes. If I have firefox open, it freezes within 15 minutes. If I don't log on, within about 10 minutes it freezes. Ctrl+alt+backspace and Ctrl+alt+f2 don't work at all after the freeze and I have to hard reboot.
[11:13] <kerik> XLV, well...in my closed box (Lian-Li) it is over 60 all the time...
[11:13] <LordDragonSlayer> i cant help it with the caps it takes me forever to type with out leaning it as it comes
[11:13] <XLV> mx-zoom, still 55C and 70C idle are a bit too much
[11:13] <XLV> kerik, what cpu?
[11:13] <kerik> XLV, prescott 3,0
[11:13] <Jack_Sparrow> kerik: not ignoring you.. I kvm into my other box to find something to use
[11:13] <XLV> kerik, i have all the fans at 5v, i am moving them to 7v
[11:13] <jamman> julian, a beilive that Ctrl + arrow up or Ctrl+Mouse wheel, or something like that.
[11:13] <itrebal> prescott is actually what made me switch to Intel for good :P
[11:13] <kerik> Jack_Sparrow, :) thanks mate
[11:14] <mx-zoom> XLV: I can't do much abot the laptop. I already have a cooling pad with 3 fans and I can't open it withou voiding the warranty
[11:14] <itrebal> AMD*
[11:14] <r0b-> can xubuntu run beryl?
[11:14] <XLV> kerik, prescotts are hot, though 60C you might want to think getting a better hsf, thermalright ultra 120 eg
[11:14] <jamman> r0b-, yes it can.
[11:14] <itrebal> mx-zoom: my brother's laptop idles at 70C and sometimes go up to 130
[11:14] <itrebal> mx-zoom: 135 or so it shuts off
[11:14] <asdf_> I have a vanilla install of ubuntu and I used recordMyDesktop to record a screeshot into OGG format, the recording is 4.5MB and when I try to play it it only plays for an instant and shuts down, am I missing a codec?
[11:14] <XLV> mx-zoom, the server is the p4, and the laptop is c2d, i assume...
[11:14] <r0b-> will it run faster on xubuntu than on normal ubuntu
[11:14] <mx-zoom> itrebal: hehe that's boiling
[11:14] <kerik> XLV, I'm using a heatsink 120 mm Zalman copper thingy 8800 or something funny
[11:14] <julian> ok il give it a try
[11:15] <jamman> r0b-, it should run a little faster.
[11:15] <mx-zoom> XLV: yes, the server is the p4 and the laptop is the core duo
[11:15] <dfgas> k when i goto switch user the resolution is like 640x480 how do i fix that?
[11:15] <XLV> kerik, ehm, then its air circulation in the cases, how many fans of what dimensions and whats their location on the case?
[11:15] <LordDragonSlayer> jamman: i dnt think i need to  dl them its on the cd i already have them on my other comp
[11:15] <itrebal> mx-zoom: its terrible :P he runs Gentoo, and when he's compiling a lot (ie: installing) he'll set the laptop onto a rig that has aseries of blow-dryers and box-fans setup to force air through faster than the HSF will :P
[11:15] <jnorris> I got my wiblows vesta lovin' friend, installed ubuntu, now he likes it than microshits crapdows.
[11:15] <MariusAZ> Is there a command that will show me the IP address of a Windows machine using Samba or smbclient?
[11:15] <kerik> mx-zoom, just curious..what would you do to the laptop if you opened it?
[11:15] <XLV> kerik, i have a 120mm intake, a 80mm cooling hdds and intake, and a 90mm exaust
[11:16] <web> hi people. how do i find out, which version of gdlib i have?
[11:16] <LordDragonSlayer> jamman: i dnt think i need to  dl them its on the cd i already have them on my other comp
[11:16] <mx-zoom> itrebal: I also got gentoo and I use cpufrequtils when I leave it compiling overnight... that way I can sleep calmly xD
[11:16] <asdf_> I have a vanilla install of ubuntu and I used recordMyDesktop to record a screencast into OGG format, the recording is 4.5MB and when I try to play it it only plays for an instant and shuts down, am I missing a codec?
[11:16] <XLV> mx-zoom, then 55C for the laptop with c2d isnt that much, but you got to do something for the server
[11:16] <jamman> LordDragonSlayer, ok, well then. do you have ndiswrapper? didn't think so. go to ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net
[11:16] <odix> ath_hal: module License 'Proprietary' taints kernel. []  ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:02:00.0[a]  -> GSI 21 (level, low) -> IRQ 21 []  ACPI: PCI interrupt for device disabled
[11:16] <kerik> XLV, I have 2 80mm in front intake and a 90 mm exhaust in the rear top (psu) and then the 120 mm zalman for the CPU...
[11:16] <Littlegator> My computer freezes randomly, usually sometime after being logged in for 40 minutes. If I have firefox open, it freezes within 15 minutes. If I don't log on, within about 10 minutes it freezes. Ctrl+alt+backspace and Ctrl+alt+f2 don't work at all after the freeze and I have to hard reboot.
[11:16] <LordDragonSlayer> Jamman: K
[11:17] <XLV> kerik, install an extra exaust then, if case allows it
[11:17] <kerik> XLV, all running as low as they can though, as I can't stand the daim noizes...
[11:17] <jamman> now, download the latest stable package.
[11:17] <uther_> Does anybody have any experience with xubuntu on a sony vario 505 type labtop? I get a kernel panic when i try to boot the install
[11:17] <XLV> kerik, yeah, but if cpu fries...
[11:17] <kerik> XLV, the thing is that I have room for one 80 mm in the back....but it all ends up in a jet motor!
[11:17] <mx-zoom> kerik: there are tutorials for disassembling my laptops model. i'd see if the fan was clean, etc
[11:17] <jamman> LordDragonSlayer, 1.47
[11:17] <web> hi people. how do i find out, which version of gdlib i have?
[11:17] <kerik> XLV, yeah..I know..
[11:18] <Justi1> How do I use applications with WINE?
[11:18] <itrebal> mx-zoom: :) to each their own, hehe, its quite impressive to see when he's either installing or complining a lot
[11:18] <XLV> kerik, i have mine at 5v, inaudible, but still 42C idle seems too much for me, but at least thats with stock hsf, i am getting that thermalright and will oc it to 2.8
[11:18] <Jack_Sparrow> kerik: nO LUCK IN WHAT i HAVE ON THAT SYSTEM. LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU FIND
[11:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry
[11:18] <XLV> kerik, plus here its very hot atm, 33C in the room, ac is broken ;-)
[11:18] <XLV> kerik, at least i am getting a new ac tomorrow
[11:18] <kerik> Jack_Sparrow, well...sisoft sandra? - does that monitor fans?...hmm
[11:18] <darwin81> kerik, It's fine to ask hardware questions here, but you can also try the ##hardware channel
[11:18] <jamman> hey, just out of curiousity, how does ispconfig work?
[11:18] <SkorpKing> Littlegator: Check your ram and keep your computer running below 70dec C
[11:19] <mx-zoom> itrebal: cpufrqutils is a life saviour... If I scale the cpu from 2.0 to 1.7 I get no thermal problems. of course everything takes longer to compile
[11:19] <phrontist> today I logged in an for some reason I've lost the bars on all of my desktops but one, the first (the taskbar on the bottom and menu on top)
[11:19] <asdf_> I have an OGG that won't play can anyone tell me what codecs I need?
[11:19] <phrontist> this is with Gnome
[11:19] <itrebal> alas
[11:19] <Jack_Sparrow> kerik: hardware channel would work better
[11:19] <kerik> darwin81, I had no idea there was one of that name :) thanks
[11:19] <odix> what is Hal status 3 ?
[11:19] <IndyGunFreak> asdf_: i don't think ogg needs codecs
[11:19] <phrontist> I can switch to the other desktops, but none of them have taskbars
[11:19] <IndyGunFreak> !hal
[11:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:20] <asdf_> IndyGunFreak: I made the recording using recordMyDesktop and it only opens for a second and then closes (crashes) the entire program
[11:20] <Jack_Sparrow> asdf_: you may have a bad ogg if other ogg's play
[11:20] <fage> hi i have a problem here
[11:20] <kerik> Jack_Sparrow, will try thanks :)
[11:20] <Littlegator> skorpking: I'm not sure how to check my temp in the BIOS and I'm not sure what you mean by check my ram
[11:20] <IndyGunFreak> asdf_: hmm, usually a codec issue, you'll get an error, not a crash
[11:21] <m4rk> is there some way of mapping a folder to a remote ftp site?
[11:21] <asdf_> Jack_Sparrow, IndyGunFreak: I can play the "Experience ubuntu.ogg" file that comes on the install, must be something with recordMyDesktop
[11:21] <IndyGunFreak> asdf_: it would see
[11:21] <IndyGunFreak> seem
[11:21] <phrontist> any ideas?
[11:21] <fage> the usb isnt quite correctly working...when connecting a microsoft basic optical mouse eg its slowed down and edgy...solved the problem by adding "acpi=noirq" to /boot/grub/menu.lst in the kernel bootoption
[11:22] <SkorpKing> Littlegator: In some rare cases it could be other hardware like ram and graphics. you'll be able to see the temp in the BIOS under Hardware Monitor or something similar.
[11:22] <Genomsaren> lol I know that it is a ubuntu forum but is there anybody knows java? :)
[11:22] <phrontist> I've gone through the System-Preferences menu a fair bit, and can't seem to figure out how to restore the toolbars
[11:22] <dfgas> how do i set the resoltuion on a second X session?
[11:22] <Genomsaren> ubuntu channle*
[11:22] <Littlegator> skorpking: I've looked in my bios. I can't find anything like hardware monitor. =\
[11:22] <fage> the problem is : by adding the noirq option the MiniPCI WLan Device fails
[11:22] <fage> any ideas/experiences ?
[11:23] <SkorpKing> Littlegator: something that sais Status?
[11:23] <Asathoor> i cannot get channels by xmltv - what should I doP
[11:23] <odix> can someone help me get my ath0 up
[11:23] <odix> been here for 2 hrs man
[11:23] <MajorPoopyPants> Im debating whether to use Debian or Ubuntu - what advantages would Ubuntu have over debian?
[11:23] <Asathoor> ath0 >> try ifconfig
[11:23] <fage> debian is for serving purposes
[11:23] <Littlegator> skorpking: nothing..
[11:23] <MajorPoopyPants> yeah im looking to use it as a server
[11:23] <MajorPoopyPants> should I stick with Debian then?
[11:23] <odix> its not there
[11:23] <h1st0> MajorPoopyPants: usability.  ubuntu is based off of debian.
[11:24] <fage> if you plan on setting up an ftpd, dhcp server or similar id go for debian
[11:24] <odix> modprobe ath_pci gives me no errors
[11:24] <fage> otherwise if youre a private user choose ubuntu
[11:24] <MajorPoopyPants> mostly apache/php stuff
[11:24] <h1st0> MajorPoopyPants: support is another thing thats going to be better with ubuntu.
[11:24] <Asathoor> anybody with knowledge on mythTV and xmltv??
[11:24] <odix> lshw -C network gives me this
[11:24] <MajorPoopyPants> how do you get support with Ubuntu?
[11:24] <odix> *-network:0 UNCLAIMED
[11:24] <odix> description: Ethernet controller
[11:24] <odix> product: AR5212 802.11abg NIC
[11:24] <odix> vendor: Atheros Communications, Inc.
[11:24] <odix> physical id: 9
[11:24] <Asathoor> support >> here or in the online fora
[11:24] <h1st0> MajorPoopyPants: You can come here.  Go to the forums.  Or there is also paid suport availible from cannical
[11:24] <Pricey> !support | MajorPoopyPants
[11:25] <ubotu> MajorPoopyPants: support is The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org
[11:25] <LordDragonSlayer> Jamman: i cant find a cd to right it to
[11:25] <MajorPoopyPants> I'd use Gentoo but the upkeep on it is insane
[11:25] <MajorPoopyPants> nice
[11:25] <itrebal> it is, MajorPayne?
[11:25] <itrebal> MajorPoopyPants: *
[11:25] <h1st0> MajorPoopyPants: Its all volunteers here but there is paid support availible
[11:25] <h1st0> !paste > odix
[11:25] <jamman> LordDragonSlayer, well, then you probly wont get it working. sory.
[11:25] <fage> ubotu could you help me out for a second please ?
[11:25] <SkorpKing> Littlegator: uhm... most computers from P2 up does have an option like that. can you check through the whole BIOS? also if you touch the chip it's not suppose to burn you.
[11:25] <h1st0> fage: ubotu is a bot.
[11:25] <jamman> ubotu is a bot.
[11:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:25] <fage> damn a bot
[11:25] <fage> then who can ?
[11:25] <h1st0> !ask > fage
[11:26] <MajorPoopyPants> itrebal, I dont think it's the distros fault, its my inability to figure out what to update and what not to - plus I want an EASY backup for it
[11:26] <fage> i did ;P
[11:26] <jamman> i can.
[11:26] <Jack_Sparrow> fage: just ask your question
[11:26] <fage> the usb isnt quite correctly working...when connecting a microsoft basic optical mouse eg its slowed down and edgy...solved the problem by adding "acpi=noirq" to /boot/grub/menu.lst in the kernel bootoption
[11:26] <Vriff> Hello, I have a problem with ubuntu, i tried to update the nvidia driver, but oviously did something wrong(im quite new to linux generally) and now i cant load the X desktop
[11:26] <fage> the problem is : by adding the noirq option the MiniPCI WLan Device fails
[11:26] <odix> PCI bridges exist which pose difficulties to Atheros cards (and maybe other hardware too). To get your card working, you first have to find your PCI bridge's PCI ID with lspci. Then you have to set the SUBORDINATE_BUS option for this PCI ID with the setpci tool. .. think this is it ?
[11:26] <jnorris> I got my wiblows vesta lovin' friend, installed ubuntu, now he likes it than microshits crapdows.
[11:26] <rustalot> is there a command that tells me my current shell?
[11:26] <SkorpKing> top
[11:26] <h1st0> fage: hrm.. not sure I don't have that problem with my mouse.  Perhaps some forums searching may help if no one here knows.
[11:27] <bruenig> rustalot, just change to whatever shell you want
[11:27] <LordDragonSlayer> Jamman: im gonna see if i can get my mom to pick me up some blank cds
[11:27] <h1st0> rustalot: current shell?
[11:27] <rustalot> yeah
[11:27] <fage> yeshmno kthx
[11:27] <jabon> #ubuntu-es
[11:27] <praveen> heh how to execute .bin files
[11:28] <Pricey> praveen, /path/to/foo.bin
[11:28] <Littlegator> skorpking: I have looked at every possible option in my BIOS, and there is no option to see any status at all.
[11:28] <LordDragonSlayer> will you still be on?
[11:28] <rustalot> i.e. if I'm using some random machine, how do I tell which shell?
[11:28] <astroview120mm> # Appears as TONGTYED.
[11:28] <h1st0> rustalot: hrm...
[11:28] <praveen> Pricey : k thnks
[11:28] <h1st0> rustalot: well you have cwd
[11:28] <h1st0> rustalot: but that just gives you path I believe.
[11:29] <Justi1> Would it be better to use a windows driver for a network card, through WINE, or to extract the firmware from the driver?
[11:29] <h1st0> rustalot: ps
[11:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Vriff: did you get any help yet
[11:29] <Vriff> no, havent heard anything
[11:29] <h1st0> rustalot: echo $SHELL
[11:29] <t2> hi,  feisty repo comes with libnotify 0.4.3.1 but i need to install 0.4.4.... can i just download this from the net and install it ??  is it safe ?
[11:29] <SkorpKing> Littlegator: that suck! can you feel if the chip is too hot? you should be able to hold your finger on it for about 2 secs. have a graphics card?
[11:29] <annoia> I have a laptop where I need the madwifi drivers, but I need not to have the binary nvidia drivers (since they are too old). Is this possible through the package system? It seems as if it is all or nothing! :(
[11:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Vriff: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Vriff: others may have different opinion..
[11:30] <h1st0> t2: yes if you know what you are doing.
[11:30] <Justi1> Is the root drive for Ubuntu drive C or drive Z?
[11:30] <h1st0> t2: is there a reason you need the newer version?
[11:30] <bruenig> h1st0, that doesn't work
[11:30] <h1st0> Justi1: its neither.
[11:30] <praveen> heh it say command not found
[11:30] <Justi1> h1st0, does it have one?
[11:31] <h1st0> bruenig: what doesn't work
[11:31] <bruenig> h1st0, when I do echo $SHELL from tcsh, it gives me /bin/bash
[11:31] <Littlegator> skorpking: yes I have a graphics card..
[11:31] <h1st0> Justi1: yeah root is /
[11:31] <t2> h1st0:  some deb package has it as a dependency... i don't know what im doing...  i was thinking i can get libnotify in a deb package and just install it
[11:31] <Busata> can you modify the "Places" menu somewhere? Can't change it with the normal menu editor
[11:31] <odix> i give up man
[11:31] <odix> no one can help me
[11:31] <h1st0> t2: isn't it in the repos?
[11:31] <h1st0> !libnotify
[11:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libnotify - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:31] <t2> h1st0:  no
[11:31] <bruenig> the SHELL variable is set by the /etc/profile anyways, and if you change shells it would't also change
[11:32] <SkorpKing> Littlegator: if the grapics card get too hot it might also freez up. had to put a fan on mine.
[11:32] <h1st0> !libnotify1
[11:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libnotify1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:32] <Littlegator> skorpking: my graphics card has a built in fan...
[11:32] <bruenig> !find libnotify
[11:32] <ubotu> Found: libnotify-dev, libnotify-doc, libnotify1, gaim-libnotify, libnotify-bin
[11:32] <astroview120mm> # Appears as TONGTYED.
[11:32] <jnorris> praven, right click on the file, then choose properties, then click permissions , and finally click the check box "Allow executing file as program"
[11:32] <h1st0> t2: its there apt-cache search libnotify
[11:32] <LordDragonSlayer> Jamman: OK im not gonna be able to get a cd till tommarow so thanks alot though
[11:32] <h1st0> bruenig: ps would work
[11:32] <praveen> heh 'foo' command not found --- how to exec bin files
[11:32] <Vriff> Jack_Sparrow: vesa the best to select?
[11:32] <t2> h1st0:  i also want to learn how to do these things as every once in a while i run into such things... im relatively new to linux so still having trouble with such things
[11:32] <Jack_Sparrow> for now yes
[11:32] <astroview120mm> Need help installing ndiswrapper
[11:32] <jnorris> praven, right click on the file, then choose properties, then click permissions , and finally click the check box "Allow executing file as program"
[11:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Vriff: the other option is for you to manually edit your xorg.conf...
[11:33] <t2> h1st0: yes synaptic has an older version 0.4.3.1
[11:33] <h1st0> t2: well first search the repos for the app you are looking for.  fire up synaptic and search for libnotify or you can compile it yourself or use a deb if they have one.  The first place to check is synaptic.
[11:33] <CaptainM> !ask > astroview120mm
[11:33] <h1st0> t2: again is there a reason you need the bleeding edge version?
[11:33] <BlizZvt> hi guys
[11:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Vriff: I had the same problem and just did the reconfigure.
[11:33] <SkorpKing> Littlegator: it really sounds like an overheating problem. other than that - i don't know. have fun. :-)
[11:33] <h1st0> !ndiswrapper | astroview120mm
[11:33] <ubotu> astroview120mm: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:33] <Littlegator> heh, thanks >_>
[11:34] <t2> h1st0: yes im trying to install a program deb package which is not in the repos and that prog needs newer libnotify
[11:34] <h1st0> t2: ahh gotcha
[11:34] <kyle__> I'm streaming a podcast through firefox but I can't hear it - anyone know why that might be?
[11:34] <h1st0> t2: well install the newerd libnotify then from the web.  If they have a deb availible use that.  If you need to compile from source I recomend using checkinstall to create your own deb.
[11:35] <h1st0> !compile
[11:35] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:35] <h1st0> t2: ^^^^^^^^^^
[11:35] <zaphod> hello, is there a way to disable the caching of thumbnails to .thumbnails/normal?
[11:35] <t2> h1st0:  i came across this deb package for gutsy
[11:35] <t2> h1st0: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/libs/libnotify1
[11:35] <h1st0> t2: well you can try that one.
[11:35] <Justi1> is there a "ctrl+alt+delete" in ubuntu?
[11:35] <t2> h1st0: from what i understand deb packages are universal for ubuntus and debian
[11:35] <h1st0> t2: yes
[11:36] <Jack_Sparrow> t2: One word.... Backup...
[11:36] <h1st0> t2: that would be your best bet try that one.
[11:36] <geek> IT WORKED !!!!!!!
[11:36] <geek> IT WORKED !!!!!!!
[11:36] <h1st0> t2: actually the best would be to compile yourself.
[11:36] <geek> yay
[11:36] <areed> justil what are you trying to do?
[11:36] <eauxnguyen> man oh man I did the network install for 6.06 from windows (no cd ibm x30) and it's a long slow road to 7.04
[11:36] <Jack_Sparrow> geek: good work
[11:36] <h1st0> Justi1: sort of.
[11:36] <t2> h1st0:  ohh is that safer ?  ok ill do that instead
[11:37] <xpoint> Justi1, just try it might not work :-=)
[11:37] <Jack_Sparrow> geek: Did that link help
[11:37] <h1st0> t2: compile yourself would be safer it depends on the dependancies though.
[11:37] <Justi1> xpoint: I did, nothing happened
[11:37] <t2> h1st0: should i backup my entire drive or only root and home partitions ?
[11:37] <areed> So are there any ubuntu projects out there that are source based?
[11:37] <xpoint> Justi1, then its disabled in xorg.conf
[11:38] <t2> h1st0: i mean worst case ubuntu won't boot i have to reinstall to same partitions right ?
[11:38] <joshritger> can someone tell me if there is a command to stop rhytmbox
[11:38] <Jack_Sparrow> t2: entire partition with a few excudes
[11:38] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup
 Source based as in the package manager installs packages from source?
[11:38] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[11:38] <h1st0> t2: well yes ultimately but I would use checkinstall and just make your own deb.  If its messed up just remove it.
[11:39] <t2> Jack_Sparrow:  ye ive done backkups before im just trying to understand why is installing a lib file so risky on linux
[11:39] <h1st0> t2: the trickiest part is just going to be meeting all the dependancies.  You really need to check out the link on compiling.
[11:39] <h1st0> t2: he's saying installing a lib from gusty is risky
[11:39] <CaptainM> !ask > astroview120mm
[11:39] <Jack_Sparrow> t2: I tell everyone to backup... nothing personal
[11:39] <CaptainM> firefox always crashes when I close a tab with a movie playing in a flash player (youtube or something) any thoughts? This only happens when I close a tab. Not when I close the whole window.
[11:40] <joshritger> !rhythmbox
[11:40] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[11:40] <h1st0> CaptainM: doesn't close the tab?
[11:40] <Vriff> Jack_Sparrow: thanks, got in to x now
[11:40] <h1st0> CaptainM: s/doesn't/don't
[11:40] <t2> Jack_Sparrow:  ye i know thanks,  it's just a strange process for what seems to me like a small thing.  i guess its not
[11:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Vriff: glad to help
[11:40] <CaptainM> h1st0, when I try to close the tab it hangs and I have to force quit
[11:40] <t2> h1st0:  if only everyone used AutoPackage or some other universtal installer software :)
[11:40] <Justi1> If the text in a windows application is displayed as random symbols, does that mean the font isn't installed?
[11:40] <h1st0> t2: its not strange if it was me I would just try the gusty deb and see what all it wants to update.  If it wants a whole bunch of other stuff I wouldn't do it.
[11:41] <h1st0> t2: Then I would back out and build my own deb from source
[11:41] <kbrooks> !info auto-apt
[11:41] <ubotu> auto-apt: package search by file and on-demand package installation tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.21 (feisty), package size 49 kB, installed size 236 kB
[11:41] <h1st0> t2: thats what debs are the problem is that if the gusty one wants all the other stuff it needs updated it won't be availible in your sources list.
[11:41] <joshritger> is there a command to exit a program that doesn't need root priviledges?
[11:42] <areed> exit
[11:42] <joshritger> ah
[11:42] <h1st0> lol
[11:42] <JayRoe> Evening gents. Can someone help me out with irrecord?
[11:42] <andreas_> Hi. Can someone please help me get a woriking TYPO3 installion locally?
[11:42] <AndyR> does anyone have a link to loading custom dsdt files easily?
[11:42] <t2> h1st0 && Jack_Sparrow:  ok thanks for the help.  ill backup important stuff and start trying this
[11:42] <h1st0> t2: the only thing to backup is your ~
[11:42] <h1st0> t2: if you have it on a seperate partition you ahve nothing to worrry about then.
[11:43] <t2> ok great
[11:43] <paradizelost> hey all, what's the comand to upgrade a server install to the next distro? i've got a 6.06  iwant to upgrade to 7.04
[11:43] <paradizelost> !upgrade
[11:43] <d4rkmonkey> paradizelost, sudo update-manager -c I think
[11:43] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[11:43] <d4rkmonkey> I'm not sure though
[11:43] <h1st0> t2: /home is where its all at.  All you documents settings etc.. unless you are saving stuff elsewhere.
[11:43] <kyle__> Why can't I hear the podcast I'm streaming in firefox?
[11:43] <d4rkmonkey> paradizelost, you have to update to edgy first
[11:43] <Justi1> how do I open up xorg.conf for editing?
[11:43] <h1st0> !codecs | kyle__
[11:43] <ubotu> kyle__: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:43] <XLV> jussi01, editor xorg.conf
[11:43] <andreas_> Paradizelost: Update your sources.list, sudo aptitude update, sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[11:43] <d4rkmonkey> Justi1, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:43] <aneviltrend> Justi1 sudo vim xorg.conf
[11:44] <h1st0> Justi1: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:44] <fizzle> hey im installing ubuntu, after it installs the system, does it need to download any additional packages?
[11:44] <h1st0> fizzle: updates is all if you want to apply them.
[11:44] <paradizelost> thanks all
[11:44] <Jack_Sparrow> kyle__: Do you have any other programs that might be using the sound card.. (not sharing)
[11:44] <AndyR> !dsdt
[11:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dsdt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:44] <andreas_> Can someone please help me install TYPO3 locally?
[11:44] <fizzle> h1st0: ok before i remeber it had to download alot of packages during the installation
[11:44] <AndyR> !acpi
[11:44] <h1st0> fizzle: there shouldn't be much it woul dhave the dl then.
[11:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acpi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:44] <d4rkmonkey> Hey, I just got my optical drive working, and I'm going to test the burning/lightscribe functionalities. Anyone have any suggestion of what to burn onto it?
[11:45] <h1st0> fizzle: dpeends what type of installation you did.
[11:45] <fizzle> h1st0: desktop
[11:45] <kyle__> Jack_Sparrow, no, I don't think so. I'm using the onboard sound on my motherboard, btw.
[11:45] <h1st0> d4rkmonkey: ubuntu.iso
[11:45] <h1st0> d4rkmonkey: or any files for that matter.
[11:45] <Jack_Sparrow> fizzle: do you have another box that has had the updates?  You can copy them over and not dl them again
[11:45] <d4rkmonkey> h1st0, I have plenty of Ubuntu CDs though :( I don't wanna just waste a CD though if it does work, lol
[11:45] <axisys> how do I access remote desktop thru web instead of vncviewer?
[11:45] <fizzle> Jack_Sparrow:  naw, havent used linux in a while, mainly because the GUI runs like crap on my laptop
[11:45] <h1st0> d4rkmonkey: burn whatever you want why would you ask here.
[11:45] <fizzle> brb
[11:46] <h1st0> axisys: rdesktop
[11:46] <d4rkmonkey> h1st0, just looking for suggestions...
[11:46] <Zxcs> anyone here use the metasploit framework?
[11:46] <h1st0> <
[11:46] <andreas_> Is it possible to use the alternate CD to install Ubuntu core system and then manually install the needed programs? With all the meta packages it`s impossible to figure out what`s there and what isn`t
[11:46] <aneviltrend> fizzle: have you tried something light like fluxbox?
[11:46] <h1st0> andreas_: yes
[11:46] <andreas_> Damn this chat moves fast.... My eyes cannot keep up...
[11:46] <h1st0> andreas_: just install ubuntu-desktop on a core system and you would have the same thing as a full install.
[11:47] <Jack_Swallow> welcome to #ubuntu
[11:47] <axisys> h1st0: rdesktop allow web access to my desktop?
[11:47] <geek> I just got a TV TUNER card specifically the WinTV PVR 150 and im wondering whether is gonna work with my ATI X800 card
[11:47] <andreas_> h1st0: Can I use the regular CD as well?
[11:47] <geek> anyone know?
[11:47] <h1st0> axisys: just rdp in.
[11:47] <compilerwriter> Anyone think there would be a problem running ubuntu on an old windows 95 machine?
[11:47] <Justi1> How can I animate .gif's in Image viewer?
[11:47] <d4rkmonkey> compilerwriter, uhh depends on the specs
[11:47] <redbox> compilerwriter: "windows 95" has nothing to do with hardware.
[11:47] <Jack_Sparrow> compilerwriter: Ubuntu dosent care what was installed before,just what hardware it has
[11:47] <andreas_> h1st0: You don`t understand..... I want to install Ubuntu in it`s core... without all that jazz.
[11:48] <h1st0> axisys: there are several options availible besides vncviewer if you look them up.  Windows remote desktop protocol is one of them etc..
[11:48] <CaptainM> compilerwriter, I would look at xubuntu or fluxbuntu
[11:48] <axisys> h1st0: my users are coming from windows environment and they dont have vncviewer
[11:48] <h1st0> andreas_: yes use the alternate iso.
[11:48] <d4rkmonkey> redbox, Jack_Sparrow, I think my saying windows 95 he was just trying to give an approximate age of the computer
[11:48] <h1st0> andreas_: you can install it so you just have prompt
[11:48] <axisys> my server is this ubuntu server
[11:48] <h1st0> andreas_: then add whatever you want.
[11:48] <Jack_Sparrow> compilerwriter: Better to give us the cpu and ram
[11:49] <mneptok> andreas_: you want the -server CD
[11:49] <andreas_> h1st0: Does it prompt me for that option or is it like a secret command i have to enter?
[11:49] <Justi1> what is a .xcf file?
 GIMP image
[11:49] <joshritger> can someone tell me how  to exit rhythmbox from a terminal window
[11:49] <d4rkmonkey> Justi1, I think it might be what gimp uses..
[11:49] <joshritger> exit just closes the terminal
[11:49] <andreas_> josh:killall
[11:50] <aneviltrend> joshritger: killall rhythmbox
[11:50] <joshritger> ok
[11:50] <CaptainM> firefox always crashes when I close a tab with a movie playing in a flash player (youtube or something) any thoughts? This only happens when I close a tab. Not when I close the whole window.
[11:50] <jkr_> there was a power problem in the middle of a pkg installation. Now apt complains of a lock even though no other pkg app is running. Is there a way to manually unlock?
[11:50] <axisys> anyone knows how to setup web acecss to my vncserver? my users coming from windows environment
[11:50] <axisys> my users dont have vncviewer
[11:50] <joshritger> Thanks aneviltrend
 Look into ultr@vnc, I believe it has a web client
[11:51] <fizzle> aneviltrend:  yeah fluxbox is great, its just GNOME, i have a P4 Laptop 2.0GHz 786MB of RAM, w/ NVidia GeForce4 card.
[11:51] <fizzle> how would i go about cleaning my fan on the inside of my laptop?
[11:52] <fizzle> i think that could be the main reason why my laptop has been running like crap
[11:52] <shadocan> carefully
 If you don't want to open it, canned air perhaps
[11:52] <Jack_Sparrow> fizzle... pull the keyboard
[11:52] <compilerwriter> The pc I am looking at as 32meg EDO and a 4.2 gig hard drive.
[11:52] <h1st0> axisys: wait what are you trying to do exactly?
[11:52] <fizzle> the person that bought it before me had it open and installed  a new memory stick
[11:52] <andreas_> Can someone please help me install TYPO3 locally?
[11:52] <fizzle> so i know its possible to open it
[11:52] <Jack_Sparrow> fizzle: No spin those fans with a can of air.. it tears up the bearings
[11:52] <Hypoon> hey guys, quick question. (I'm more of a gentoo user, so I'm not familiar with synaptic, etc...). Should every package I try in install (via "sudo apt-get install links") require virtualbox?
[11:52] <aneviltrend> fizzle: and gnome runs slow on that? sounds like something else might have been causing it, gnome runs fine on my comp with lower specs than that
[11:52] <compilerwriter> I was wondering whether or not we could get ubuntu running on that.
[11:52] <fizzle> right now my laptop is in my lap, and its burning my leg
[11:52] <magicrobotmonkey> ok seriously, does anyone know how to turn off wanda the fish? its driving me slowly insane
[11:52] <h1st0> andreas_: it should be on the menu from what I understand.  If not you may need to use the server iso
[11:52] <Jack_Sparrow> fizzle: If you must use the air.  block the fan from spinning
[11:52] <axisys> h1st0: i want to do a live presentation amd my users are on windows environemt
[11:53] <andreas_> h1st0: Thank you.
[11:53] <h1st0> andreas_: you just want a command prompt install
[11:53] <jumbers> What's a good podcast subscription program for Ubuntu?
[11:53] <fizzle> ok guys, ill brb, rebooting into my new system
[11:53] <aneviltrend> magicrobotmonkey: right click and say remove from panel
[11:53] <axisys> h1st0: they cannot install vncviwer
[11:53] <compilerwriter> The other thing we would have to manage is to get the thing booted up from perhaps the floppy drive
[11:53] <axisys> h1st0: so i like to have them access to vnserver thru web
[11:53] <magicrobotmonkey> aneviltrend: its not on my panel, its swimming all over the screen
[11:53] <h1st0> axisys: hrm...  well I don't know if there is a terminal server option availible but thats what you would need.
[11:53] <nodesert> in my session type menu there is a blank line. how can i fix it ( i think it happened when i was trying to install enlightment windows manager)
[11:53] <magicrobotmonkey> jumbers: rhythmbox works for me
[11:54] <axisys> h1st0: vncserver would do it as well, no?
[11:54] <andreas_> Can someone please help me install TYPO3 locally?
[11:54] <axisys> h1st0: as long as I can get them web access to the vncserver's port
[11:54] <CaptainM> magicrobotmonkey, that's an easter egg right? try killall wanda?
[11:54] <aneviltrend> magicrobotmonkey: hm. you can try seeing if you can find it in system monitor and manually killing it
[11:54] <Hypoon> in what scenario would everything in synaptic require virtualbox? If this is a noob question, please just say so and I'll google more, but all google was showing was ways for installing virtualbox via apt-get.
[11:55] <magicrobotmonkey> CaptainM, aneviltrend: i looked for processes with fish or wanda or f or w to no avail
[11:55] <compilerwriter> So here are the specs intel pentium processor, 32 meg edo ram, and 4.2 gig hard drive.  Plus it won't boot from cd-rom.  How would we get this thing to run ubuntu?
[11:55] <mtx1> have a problem with ubuntu fiesty 64. it wont logon to window server i login at screen with username and pass it goes through then stops and back to login screen...my disk is NOT full any clues on what it could be? i reconfigured xorg to no avail.
[11:55] <aneviltrend> magicrobotmonkey: i guess you could log out and log back in
[11:55] <rustalot> How do I tell apt-get to install the reccomended / suggested packages
[11:55] <CaptainM> magicrobotmonkey, killall gnome-panel
[11:55] <stavunc1> Can any one helm me to setup a d-link dwl-g122 wireless usb network card on MEPIS.  Tragically, I'm a very new newbie
[11:56] <h1st0> axisys: i'm checking hold up
[11:56] <aneviltrend> magicrobotmonkey: if it's not too much trouble
[11:56] <Jack_Sparrow> compilerwriter: Dont bother
[11:56] <magicrobotmonkey> I was trying to avoid drastic action like that
[11:56] <joakim> ScummVM just froze on me, how do I close it?   It does not close when I pres the "x"
[11:56] <CaptainM> magicrobotmonkey, that'll restart it
[11:56] <magicrobotmonkey> i guess ill just live with it till i have to logout for some reason
[11:56] <CaptainM> magicrobotmonkey, nothing drastic
[11:56] <compilerwriter> Jack_Sparrow do you think DSL might be an option?
[11:57] <Pici> stavunc1: This is the Ubuntu support channel, not the Mepis support channel.
[11:57] <magicrobotmonkey> CaptainM: i never have good luck with the systray coming back properly from that
[11:57] <aneviltrend> magicrobotmonkey: sorry mate i've never had it happen to me, i don't really know what else to do
[11:57] <magicrobotmonkey> just don't hit Alt+F2 and type "Free the Fish"
[11:57] <magicrobotmonkey> er, "free the fish"
[11:57] <Jack_Sparrow> compilerwriter: An option for what.. the install... 32 megs and 4 gigs isnt enough to do anything much
[11:57] <MSG4> is there wiki ubuntu on computer hardware
[11:58] <CaptainM> magicrobotmonkey, than you'll have to live with wanda :P clicking on it will make it disappear for a while
[11:58] <magicrobotmonkey> yea
[11:58] <fizzle> ok people im back, now ummmm, how would i go about installing thermal sensors, i need to see what temperature my laptop is running
[11:58] <stavunc1> Is there a MEPIS (ubuntu based) support channel... I didn't see it in the Xchat listing?
[11:58] <MSG4> is there wiki ubuntu on computer hardware?
 lm-sensors
[11:58] <Pici> !hardware | MSG4 (hello again)
[11:58] <ubotu> MSG4 (hello again): For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[11:59] <Zxcs> does anyone know how i can create a postgre database in a directory on my desktop? do i have to install postgre?
[11:59] <aneviltrend> magicrobotmonkey: i did some googling, seems like the only way to kill it without logging out is to kill gnome panel while you have a terminal window open, then start up gnome-panel again
[11:59] <compilerwriter> That is what I was thinking about Jack_Sparrow.  I have run dsl on a 1gig usb stick.  I was just wondering what you thought about it on an old machine like that for a chance to experiment with linux.
[12:00] <mhz`> recommendation for a torrent client?
[12:00] <Pricey> mhz`, rtorrent
[12:00] <Pici> !torrent | mhz`
[12:00] <ubotu> mhz`: Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt), rTorrent (C++) -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[12:00] <MSG4> pici thx
[12:00] <mhz`> merci
[12:00] <CaptainM> aneviltrend, magicrobotmonkey , you don't have to restart it from the terminal. It'll restart automatically (just use alt-f2)
[12:00] <astro76> compilerwriter, something like DSL is your only option really, DSL minimum is around how much ram you have
[12:00] <joakim> an application froze, how do I close it? "Ctrl+Alt+Del"?
[12:00] <fizzle> how do i set up my repositorys, and install from command line, sorry everyone its been a while.
[12:00] <bastid_raZor> i use kTorrent or Transmission
[12:00] <aneviltrend> CaptainM: ah good to know
[12:00] <bastid_raZor> Transmission as of late has been better suited to my needs
[12:00] <compilerwriter> Thanks astro76
[12:00] <Pici> joakim: type xkill in a terminal, then click the window that froze
[12:01] <z999> hi
[12:01] <bastid_raZor> uses less RAM/CPU
[12:01] <CaptainM> mhz you can also take a look at deluge
[12:01] <z999> I need some help
[12:01] <SkorpKing> magicrobotmonkey: i'm not using gnome but can you right click on the panel and select remove aplet from panel?
[12:01] <fizzle> ubotu repository
[12:01] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource