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xivulonHi all12:52
xivulonI have added edubuntu to wubi12:52
xivulonhttp://wubi-installer.org12:52
xivulonplease test it out12:53
xivulonif you have issues please use the forum http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=23412:53
xivulonNote that at the end I used the server image, since the dvd was a bit to heavy. Hence some desktop packages are not installed by default, hope that is acceptable12:53
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sbalneavevening all04:17
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cynicsanyone would like share your edubuntu presentation slide show with me? thanks04:38
sbalneavOn what?04:39
sbalneavI have a short presentation on ltsp within edubuntu.04:40
cynicssbalneav: on a lug's monthly meeting04:44
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Phrozen_Onegood morning everyone, anyone up?07:51
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Burgundaviahello07:52
Phrozen_Onehey everyone07:53
Phrozen_OneI just wanted to talk to you guys about thin clients, whats your arguments for their cost-effectiveness? I can get several workstations for drastically less than gigabit switches and a high end server with RAID07:53
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RichEdPhrozen_One: you still there ?09:36
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LaserJockRichEd: ping09:59
LaserJockRichEd: nvm, just a poke10:09
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pips1hi11:36
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xivulonHi ogra, did you see my message yesterday about wubi?01:07
ograxivulon, nope01:08
xivulonbasically I have added edubuntu to wubi01:09
xivulonso pls try it out when you have a few minutes01:09
xivulonI used the server ISO at the end, since the dvd was too large and would have created other issues01:09
xivulonso some packages need to be installed separately01:10
xivulonI hope it's ok01:10
xivulonogra for any issue please use the forum01:11
ograxivulon, i dont own any windows copy ... and dont have access to any01:12
ogracould you send a call to the edubuntu-users ML =01:13
ogra?01:13
xivulonCan I leave that to you?01:14
xivulonRelevant urls are http://wubi-installer.org/ for wubi and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234 for feedback01:15
xivulonogra I have submitted to the ML01:35
xivulonvia gmane (hope it works)01:36
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RichEd=== edubuntu meeting === in #ubuntu-meeting === in 2 mins ===01:59
RichEd( short meeting ... ogra is on sprint )02:00
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supermananyone know how to get rid of ldm and just use kdm/xdmcp?02:30
RichEdsuperman: ping ogra02:31
supermanspamspamspam.02:32
ograsuperman, add SCREEN_07=startx to your lts.conf file02:33
ograsuperman, but be aware that we dont support XDMCP so none of the features like sound and local device will work02:34
ogra*local devices02:34
supermanoh... hm, might need to rethink that then02:34
supermanproblem is that ldm doesnt give any meaningful feedback when entering wrong password etc02:34
supermanconfusing users02:34
ograthat will change with the next release02:35
ograldm is being rewritten completely atm02:35
supermannice.02:35
supermanbut... can't get it to work with startx. ending up with a gray screen and the mit-magic-cookie stuff.02:35
supermanhave ofcourse changed the kdmrc/xaccess02:35
ograyou need to enable XDMCP support in your display manager02:36
ograKDM always had probs with that in the past02:37
ograi thought that was fixed, but then i dont use KDM at all so i cant really say02:37
supermangot it working on skolelinux/debian so this is weird02:37
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ograsuperman, afaik GDM works fine02:55
supermanhm. can try.02:56
supermanno luck with gdm either. hmpf.03:03
supermannot possible to change backgroundcolour with ldm?03:03
ograsure, just edit the theme file03:10
ograunder /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ldm/themes/03:11
supermanoh. thanks.03:11
supermanlooks like the next version will good :)03:11
ograyeah03:12
supermana bit unsafe to run gutsy now I guess03:12
ograit runs quite stable ...03:12
ogragood enough for testing ...03:12
ograbut i wouldnt give t to normal users :)03:12
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supermanhehe.03:13
supermannoticing its a bit slower than xdmcp, not sure if it will be a problem here though.03:13
supermanusually got around 20 users, but only 2 admins here to test now :)03:13
ogragutsy has a mode to run the X traffic unencrypted03:14
ograbut 20 users shouldnt be a problem03:14
supermanseems like gutsy will be the thing for me. security doesnt matter much here. hehe.03:15
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multikhi guys03:37
multikI've a small problem with my edubuntu server. I'm trying to set up dnsmasq as DHCP and LTSP server. I configured dnsmasq config files. Then I tried starting up dnsmasq (sudo /usr/sbin/dnsmasq) but error messages comes up: dnsmasq: failed to create listening socket: address already in use03:39
ograany special reason not to use the default ?03:40
multikwhich is? I'm very new to this.03:40
multikI tried with DHCP3-server, but it was simply not working.03:40
ograi think we ship an example file for dnsmasq debian added ... but since we dont use dnsmasq anywhere in (ed)ubuntu it was never tested03:40
ogradhcp3-server is the default that gets set up automatically by the ltsp packages03:41
multikHow can I unconfigure dnsmasq stuff and get dhcp3-server back up and running?03:41
multikI uninstalled it completely, but I'll just reinstall it with apt-get.03:41
ograif you installed on a two NIC server it should all be configured and up and runing by default after the installation03:41
ogra(if you installed from the edubuntu server iso indeed)03:42
multikIve 1 NIC laptop as demo edubuntu server.03:42
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multikI did instal from edubuntu .iso03:42
ograah, ok that needs some tweaking indeed03:42
multik? really.03:42
multikHehe, well I'd love to learn.03:42
ogra(single NIC i mean)03:42
multikI read thru Ubuntu docs session DHCP HOW-TO03:43
ograthe NIC needs to have a static IP03:43
multikok let me install dhcp3 back on03:43
multikit does03:43
multik192.168.1.203:43
ograif you choose 192.168.0.xxx for that it should just work with the shipped config file03:43
ograif you have a different range, edit /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf to match that IP range03:44
multikthought so :) let me reconfigure that.03:44
ograwhich version do you have there btw ?03:44
multikwell I did configure that file but I reckon it's easier to have 1 IP changed instead of tweaking config files03:44
multikof edubuntu? 7.0403:44
ograok03:44
ograwith edubuntu .iso you mean the liveCD ?03:45
ograthat doesnt install any ltsp bits, its a plain workstation03:45
ograyou need to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall in this case03:46
ograthe faq mentioned in the channel topic here is also helpful i guess03:46
multikwhat's the command for dhcp3-server install? apt-get install dhcp3-server ...03:47
ograits a dependency of the ltsp-server-standalone package03:47
ograit will get installed alongside03:48
multikdhcp3? ok I'll try ltsp server then.03:48
ograjust follow the quick install howto03:49
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multikgrr, now I can't mount CDROM dev/hdc doesn't exist03:57
multikcds are automounted are they?03:58
ograyup04:01
multikhmm, this one doesn't want to mount. It's working fine on other PC:04:01
ograerr, on the client you mean ?04:01
multikno, on server04:01
ograyes, on the server is should be automounted04:02
ograon thin clients that will only happen if your user is in the fuse group (the user management gui has an option for that)04:02
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sbalneavMorning all04:04
multikmorning04:05
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RichEdhey sbalneav04:07
sbalneavHey there RichEd04:07
sbalneavIs the meeting on today?04:08
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cliebow_Scott:there was a meeting several hoursa ago04:14
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HalcaHii04:49
HalcaI saw your website :-)04:49
sbalneavHello Halca04:51
Halcahi04:52
multikogra: I don't get it, I can boot from edubuntu CD, but I can't mount it while in edubuntu. Any ideas?04:54
HalcaHey err04:55
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ogramultik, thats strange, not eve if you try to access it through the computer place of the filemanager ?05:02
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RickHogra:  Greetings.  I hear you may be interested in being my mentor.05:25
ograyeah, i'm fine heping on anything edubuntu related :)05:26
ogra*helping even05:26
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RickHogra:  Great.  I'll be in touch via email.  Just wanted to say "Hi".05:28
HalcaHey05:28
HalcaWhat's the good word :-)05:28
RickH"The word is 'No'... I am, therefore, going anyway."  Name that quote?05:28
HalcaYou could have just told me to shut up or something05:29
HalcaWhat have i dont to offend you05:29
Halca._.;05:29
RickHThat's right!  It's from Star Trek III, when Kirk wants to take the Enterprise and rescue Spock.05:30
RickH:P05:30
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cliebow_ogra:do ineed to set aside the squashfs to build a shiny new ltspserver??05:47
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LaserJockcan somebody tell me what the blazes is going on in edubuntu-devel?06:09
ograknut being noisy :)06:11
sbalneavWe're being cc'd from debian-edu mailing list.06:11
sbalneavThe whole "kde vs gnome" thing's decided to raise it's ugly head again.06:12
cliebow_yecch06:12
sbalneavLets hope Ollie doesn't get any death threats this time :)06:12
ograi'll keep my fingers off that thread :)06:13
ograi'm in classmate mode this week anyway06:13
LaserJockwell I'm not sure if I'm gonna06:13
LaserJockbeing on "break" and all maybe I have some time for pointless Debian rants06:13
LaserJock;-)06:14
sbalneavGo Laser! Go Laser! Go Laser! WHOOOOO!06:14
ograhehe06:14
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cliebow_seems stalled..ctrl-alt-f1 gets me a login to client (i suppose) but i dont have any pws to use..06:23
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stgraberogra: http://www.genevalogic.com/index.php?id=1264 <-- Some ideas for TCM11:12
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