[12:52] <xivulon> Hi all
[12:52] <xivulon> I have added edubuntu to wubi
[12:52] <xivulon> http://wubi-installer.org
[12:53] <xivulon> please test it out
[12:53] <xivulon> if you have issues please use the forum http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234
[12:53] <xivulon> Note that at the end I used the server image, since the dvd was a bit to heavy. Hence some desktop packages are not installed by default, hope that is acceptable
[04:17] <sbalneav> evening all
[04:38] <cynics> anyone would like share your edubuntu presentation slide show with me? thanks
[04:39] <sbalneav> On what?
[04:40] <sbalneav> I have a short presentation on ltsp within edubuntu.
[04:44] <cynics> sbalneav: on a lug's monthly meeting
[07:51] <Phrozen_One> good morning everyone, anyone up?
[07:52] <Burgundavia> hello
[07:53] <Phrozen_One> hey everyone
[07:53] <Phrozen_One> I just wanted to talk to you guys about thin clients, whats your arguments for their cost-effectiveness? I can get several workstations for drastically less than gigabit switches and a high end server with RAID
[09:36] <RichEd> Phrozen_One: you still there ?
[09:59] <LaserJock> RichEd: ping
[10:09] <LaserJock> RichEd: nvm, just a poke
[11:36] <pips1> hi
[01:07] <xivulon> Hi ogra, did you see my message yesterday about wubi?
[01:08] <ogra> xivulon, nope
[01:09] <xivulon> basically I have added edubuntu to wubi
[01:09] <xivulon> so pls try it out when you have a few minutes
[01:09] <xivulon> I used the server ISO at the end, since the dvd was too large and would have created other issues
[01:10] <xivulon> so some packages need to be installed separately
[01:10] <xivulon> I hope it's ok
[01:11] <xivulon> ogra for any issue please use the forum
[01:12] <ogra> xivulon, i dont own any windows copy ... and dont have access to any
[01:13] <ogra> could you send a call to the edubuntu-users ML =
[01:13] <ogra> ?
[01:14] <xivulon> Can I leave that to you?
[01:15] <xivulon> Relevant urls are http://wubi-installer.org/ for wubi and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234 for feedback
[01:35] <xivulon> ogra I have submitted to the ML
[01:36] <xivulon> via gmane (hope it works)
[01:59] <RichEd> [02:00] <RichEd> ( short meeting ... ogra is on sprint )
[02:30] <superman> anyone know how to get rid of ldm and just use kdm/xdmcp?
[02:31] <RichEd> superman: ping ogra
[02:32] <superman> spamspamspam.
[02:33] <ogra> superman, add SCREEN_07=startx to your lts.conf file
[02:34] <ogra> superman, but be aware that we dont support XDMCP so none of the features like sound and local device will work
[02:34] <ogra> *local devices
[02:34] <superman> oh... hm, might need to rethink that then
[02:34] <superman> problem is that ldm doesnt give any meaningful feedback when entering wrong password etc
[02:34] <superman> confusing users
[02:35] <ogra> that will change with the next release
[02:35] <ogra> ldm is being rewritten completely atm
[02:35] <superman> nice.
[02:35] <superman> but... can't get it to work with startx. ending up with a gray screen and the mit-magic-cookie stuff.
[02:35] <superman> have ofcourse changed the kdmrc/xaccess
[02:36] <ogra> you need to enable XDMCP support in your display manager
[02:37] <ogra> KDM always had probs with that in the past
[02:37] <ogra> i thought that was fixed, but then i dont use KDM at all so i cant really say
[02:37] <superman> got it working on skolelinux/debian so this is weird
[02:55] <ogra> superman, afaik GDM works fine
[02:56] <superman> hm. can try.
[03:03] <superman> no luck with gdm either. hmpf.
[03:03] <superman> not possible to change backgroundcolour with ldm?
[03:10] <ogra> sure, just edit the theme file
[03:11] <ogra> under /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ldm/themes/
[03:11] <superman> oh. thanks.
[03:11] <superman> looks like the next version will good :)
[03:12] <ogra> yeah
[03:12] <superman> a bit unsafe to run gutsy now I guess
[03:12] <ogra> it runs quite stable ...
[03:12] <ogra> good enough for testing ...
[03:12] <ogra> but i wouldnt give t to normal users :)
[03:13] <superman> hehe.
[03:13] <superman> noticing its a bit slower than xdmcp, not sure if it will be a problem here though.
[03:13] <superman> usually got around 20 users, but only 2 admins here to test now :)
[03:14] <ogra> gutsy has a mode to run the X traffic unencrypted
[03:14] <ogra> but 20 users shouldnt be a problem
[03:15] <superman> seems like gutsy will be the thing for me. security doesnt matter much here. hehe.
[03:37] <multik> hi guys
[03:39] <multik> I've a small problem with my edubuntu server. I'm trying to set up dnsmasq as DHCP and LTSP server. I configured dnsmasq config files. Then I tried starting up dnsmasq (sudo /usr/sbin/dnsmasq) but error messages comes up: dnsmasq: failed to create listening socket: address already in use
[03:40] <ogra> any special reason not to use the default ?
[03:40] <multik> which is? I'm very new to this.
[03:40] <multik> I tried with DHCP3-server, but it was simply not working.
[03:40] <ogra> i think we ship an example file for dnsmasq debian added ... but since we dont use dnsmasq anywhere in (ed)ubuntu it was never tested
[03:41] <ogra> dhcp3-server is the default that gets set up automatically by the ltsp packages
[03:41] <multik> How can I unconfigure dnsmasq stuff and get dhcp3-server back up and running?
[03:41] <multik> I uninstalled it completely, but I'll just reinstall it with apt-get.
[03:41] <ogra> if you installed on a two NIC server it should all be configured and up and runing by default after the installation
[03:42] <ogra> (if you installed from the edubuntu server iso indeed)
[03:42] <multik> Ive 1 NIC laptop as demo edubuntu server.
[03:42] <multik> I did instal from edubuntu .iso
[03:42] <ogra> ah, ok that needs some tweaking indeed
[03:42] <multik> ? really.
[03:42] <multik> Hehe, well I'd love to learn.
[03:42] <ogra> (single NIC i mean)
[03:43] <multik> I read thru Ubuntu docs session DHCP HOW-TO
[03:43] <ogra> the NIC needs to have a static IP
[03:43] <multik> ok let me install dhcp3 back on
[03:43] <multik> it does
[03:43] <multik> 192.168.1.2
[03:43] <ogra> if you choose 192.168.0.xxx for that it should just work with the shipped config file
[03:44] <ogra> if you have a different range, edit /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf to match that IP range
[03:44] <multik> thought so :) let me reconfigure that.
[03:44] <ogra> which version do you have there btw ?
[03:44] <multik> well I did configure that file but I reckon it's easier to have 1 IP changed instead of tweaking config files
[03:44] <multik> of edubuntu? 7.04
[03:44] <ogra> ok
[03:45] <ogra> with edubuntu .iso you mean the liveCD ?
[03:45] <ogra> that doesnt install any ltsp bits, its a plain workstation
[03:46] <ogra> you need to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall in this case
[03:46] <ogra> the faq mentioned in the channel topic here is also helpful i guess
[03:47] <multik> what's the command for dhcp3-server install? apt-get install dhcp3-server ...
[03:47] <ogra> its a dependency of the ltsp-server-standalone package
[03:48] <ogra> it will get installed alongside
[03:48] <multik> dhcp3? ok I'll try ltsp server then.
[03:49] <ogra> just follow the quick install howto
[03:57] <multik> grr, now I can't mount CDROM dev/hdc doesn't exist
[03:58] <multik> cds are automounted are they?
[04:01] <ogra> yup
[04:01] <multik> hmm, this one doesn't want to mount. It's working fine on other PC:
[04:01] <ogra> err, on the client you mean ?
[04:01] <multik> no, on server
[04:02] <ogra> yes, on the server is should be automounted
[04:02] <ogra> on thin clients that will only happen if your user is in the fuse group (the user management gui has an option for that)
[04:04] <sbalneav> Morning all
[04:05] <multik> morning
[04:07] <RichEd> hey sbalneav
[04:07] <sbalneav> Hey there RichEd
[04:08] <sbalneav> Is the meeting on today?
[04:14] <cliebow_> Scott:there was a meeting several hoursa ago
[04:49] <Halca> Hii
[04:49] <Halca> I saw your website :-)
[04:51] <sbalneav> Hello Halca
[04:52] <Halca> hi
[04:54] <multik> ogra: I don't get it, I can boot from edubuntu CD, but I can't mount it while in edubuntu. Any ideas?
[04:55] <Halca> Hey err
[05:02] <ogra> multik, thats strange, not eve if you try to access it through the computer place of the filemanager ?
[05:25] <RickH> ogra:  Greetings.  I hear you may be interested in being my mentor.
[05:26] <ogra> yeah, i'm fine heping on anything edubuntu related :)
[05:26] <ogra> *helping even
[05:28] <RickH> ogra:  Great.  I'll be in touch via email.  Just wanted to say "Hi".
[05:28] <Halca> Hey
[05:28] <Halca> What's the good word :-)
[05:28] <RickH> "The word is 'No'... I am, therefore, going anyway."  Name that quote?
[05:29] <Halca> You could have just told me to shut up or something
[05:29] <Halca> What have i dont to offend you
[05:29] <Halca> ._.;
[05:30] <RickH> That's right!  It's from Star Trek III, when Kirk wants to take the Enterprise and rescue Spock.
[05:30] <RickH> :P
[05:47] <cliebow_> ogra:do ineed to set aside the squashfs to build a shiny new ltspserver??
[06:09] <LaserJock> can somebody tell me what the blazes is going on in edubuntu-devel?
[06:11] <ogra> knut being noisy :)
[06:11] <sbalneav> We're being cc'd from debian-edu mailing list.
[06:12] <sbalneav> The whole "kde vs gnome" thing's decided to raise it's ugly head again.
[06:12] <cliebow_> yecch
[06:12] <sbalneav> Lets hope Ollie doesn't get any death threats this time :)
[06:13] <ogra> i'll keep my fingers off that thread :)
[06:13] <ogra> i'm in classmate mode this week anyway
[06:13] <LaserJock> well I'm not sure if I'm gonna
[06:13] <LaserJock> being on "break" and all maybe I have some time for pointless Debian rants
[06:14] <LaserJock> ;-)
[06:14] <sbalneav> Go Laser! Go Laser! Go Laser! WHOOOOO!
[06:14] <ogra> hehe
[06:23] <cliebow_> seems stalled..ctrl-alt-f1 gets me a login to client (i suppose) but i dont have any pws to use..
[11:12] <stgraber> ogra: http://www.genevalogic.com/index.php?id=1264 <-- Some ideas for TCM