[12:14] <adenicio> micha i got probs with kubuntu this my firs time on the net with linux
[12:14] <SkorpKing> then just ask and someone will help
[12:14] <_michael> what are your problems?
[12:16] <adenicio> well mmm on kubuntu i tink tu surf is konqueror right?i type in google space (anyting)and it keep saying Could not connect to host
[12:17] <Dragnslcr> Maybe because "google anything" isn't a domain name?
[12:17] <Dragnslcr> Did you try www.google.com?
[12:18] <adenicio> yeap keep saying cannot coect to host
[12:18] <_michael> did you try 'sudo ifup -a'?
[12:18] <adenicio> conect
[12:19] <Dragnslcr> Try going to something like www.freenode.net
[12:19] <Dragnslcr> Presumably you can get to Freenode, since you're here
[12:20] <BluesKaj> !google-linux
[12:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google-linux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:20] <adenicio> sudo ifup -a it saying No such device
[12:20] <jhutchins_lt> adenicio: try "gg:" (without the quotes).
[12:20] <BluesKaj> !google
[12:20] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[12:21] <adenicio> my connection is a dial up.and my modem is not usb
[12:22] <adenicio>  www.freenode.net doesnt work
[12:22] <jhutchins_lt> adenicio: I use pptp-control start
[12:22] <jhutchins_lt> adenicio: sudo ifconfig should list your connections, including dialup.
[12:22] <adenicio> wa is  www.freenode.net?
[12:23] <adenicio>  sorry
[12:23] <adenicio> pptp-control
[12:24] <eduardo> Ol, algum sabe como instalo  um drive OSS (placa de som C-Media 9739A)? J procurei em todos os lugares e formas e sempre d erro  :(
[12:25] <Hirvinen> !en | eduardo
[12:25] <ubotu> eduardo: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[12:25] <eduardo> sorry
[12:27] <adenicio> i need help i need help i need help i need help i need help i need help i need help i need help i need help i need help i need help i need help i need help i need help i need help i need help i need help i need help i need help i need help i need help i need help i need help i need help i need help i need help i need help i need help i need help i need help i need help i need help i need help i need help i need help
[12:28] <pyrotix__> On edgy was upgrading to feisty but closed it midway, now upgrade button on taskbar is gone. How do I upgrade?
[12:28] <Daisuke_Ido> you need GONE.
[12:28] <adenicio> i cant surf it keep saying could not connect to host
[12:28] <Daisuke_Ido> if you have a question, ask it.
[12:29] <adenicio> GONE?wait u mean ubuntu?
[12:29] <Daisuke_Ido> no
[12:29] <Daisuke_Ido> how did you get "ubuntu" from "gone"?
[12:29] <adenicio> how do i get gone?
[12:30] <Daisuke_Ido> they share one letter, i suppose, but ffs, by that standard i could mistake "christianity" for "sodomy"
[12:30] <Dragnslcr> Swap the 'o' and 'n' and toss in an 'm' and you can get Gnome
[12:30] <adenicio> i got ubuntu,kubuntu and fedora6 on cd
[12:30] <Daisuke_Ido> which i suppose isn't too far off
[12:30] <Daisuke_Ido> adenicio: i said gone.  as in not here.  your little flood up there probably didn't win you any friends.
[12:31] <adenicio> Dragnslcr im not a pro i didnt understand wa u said about the z to the t back to the a
[12:32] <Daisuke_Ido> and since i'm feeling a flood of probably undeserved hostility boiling up, i'm going to sit this one out and go grab a cup of coffee
[12:33] <adenicio> daisuke oh ok sorry it just that i just install kubuntu and i cantn surf,it keep saying coul not connect to host
[12:33] <adenicio> daisuke i dont have friend i jst find this thing where people talkin and i was surprise
[12:34] <adenicio> Daisuke_ido:
[12:36] <adenicio> can anyone help?
[12:47] <jhutchins_lt> !fr | adenicio
[12:47] <ubotu> adenicio: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:48] <jhutchins_lt> adenicio: I think you'll do better without the language barrier.
[12:48] <jhutchins_lt> adenicio: Don't do anything like you did above, repeating yourself obnoxiously, or you'll be kicked.
[12:48] <jhutchins_lt> adenicio: (Which means forced out of the channel.)
[12:50] <Pharsalus> Hey guys, I've just installed Compiz on Kubuntu Feisty, I ran gconf-editor and changed the value of apps/compiz/general/screen0/options/hsize from 1 to 4 on the advice of a forum in an attempt to get the cube plugin working. Then I ended up with 16 desktops...! On restarting I changed the value back to 1, and I end up with 4 desktops. The value in the compiz config file is 1, the value in the Configure-Kdesktop is 1, but I have 4
[12:51] <mneptok> Pharsalus: gconf-editor is for manipulating GNOME settings, not KDE
[12:52] <Pharsalus> mneptok: Right, The G should have gave it away. Thanks.
[12:53] <Pharsalus> mneptok: But I still have the same problem, can anyone offer any assistance?
[12:56] <kerebrus> Hi, Im trying to uninstall a set of drivers through ndiswrapper in the terminal but it keeps listing an error Permission denied at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper-1.9 line 128
[12:56] <mneptok> sudo
[12:56] <kerebrus> ah thank you
[01:07] <drkfce> Has anyone had problems trying to use a wireless and wired connection at the same time?
[01:08] <Mez> always, how does your PC decide which way to send the data
[01:08] <Mez> ?
[01:08] <drkfce> they are on different networks
[01:08] <drkfce> one is a private ip
[01:08] <drkfce> the other is a public ip
[01:09] <jhutchins_lt> drkfce: Tell us what IS happening for  you.
[01:09] <drkfce> I have a laptop that needs to be connected to a cisco switch and the internet at the same time
[01:10] <drkfce> it is wired to the switch, and wireless gives access to the internet
[01:10] <drkfce> but, when I use the wired, the wireless connection craps out
[01:12] <drkfce> Is there a page I can see how to assign IP addresses to interfaces by command line?
[01:12] <drkfce> or is it just a few commands?
[01:14] <melkor> I'm having trouble building a package with dbuild
[01:19] <FSHero> Hi all: I've just installed Kubuntu and Windows Dual boot! :) How do I get Windows to be the default option in the GRUB menu?
[01:20] <garslo> FSHero: you have to edit a file called menu.list
[01:20] <FSHero> garslo: Sure... that sounds familiar. Where is the location?
[01:20] <garslo> FSHero: if you open up aconsole window, type cd /boot/grub
[01:21] <garslo> are you fairly familiar with linux (a bit at least)?
[01:21] <FSHero> garslo: Yes... I've used Knoppix 4.0 to 5.1.1, and a bit of Kubuntu
[01:22] <garslo> FSHero: ok cool. if you're in /boot/grub/, type  "sudo gedit menu.lst"
[01:22] <garslo> ha wait
[01:22] <BluesKaj> FSHero,  or another option is to Alt+f2 then type: kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst ' in the run box , do the edit and then save the file with permission
[01:23] <FSHero> BluesKaj: Yeah, I don't think I have gedit.
[01:23] <FSHero> Okay, I see Kate.
[01:23] <garslo> FSHero: yeah sorry, i just switched from Gnome
[01:23] <FSHero> garslo: np :)
[01:25] <FSHero> I see at the end of the menu.st, some stuff pertaining to Microsoft Windows XP. What next...?
[01:28] <FSHero> Actually... I'll read around/ ask you guys tommorow. It's 00:27 in the UK, so I'm heading off for some sleep!
[01:28] <FSHero> Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!
[01:28] <FSHero> See you tommorow, perhaps
[01:28] <BluesKaj> FSHero, where it shows # in front of title , just below examples uncomment (take out the # from the begining of each line down to and including chainloader
[01:28] <blizzzek> FSHero: i think right at the beginning is "default=0", you should set it to the option nr of windows
[01:28] <blizzzek> too late
[01:29] <BluesKaj> yeah, my typing speed sucks
[01:29] <blizzzek> i read it too late
[01:29] <blizzzek> its fate i guess
[01:30] <BluesKaj> hehe, he'll be ok
[01:30] <melkor> how do I enable the multiverse packages?
[01:31] <K-Ryan> !multiverse
[01:31] <skibobdi_> one wrong move in that menu.lst file and *bam* you'll need your windows disk
[01:31] <K-Ryan> Ubotu broken again?
[01:31] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about broken again? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:31] <K-Ryan> There we go
[01:31] <melkor> is main restricted multiverse the same as multiverse?
[01:31] <K-Ryan> Yep
[01:32] <blizzzek> yes
[01:36] <melkor> I'm trying to install liblame-dev and it says it is not available but refered to.
[01:36] <melkor> When I do a search the package exists and it says its in the multiverse repository, which I have enabled
[01:37] <BluesKaj> !restricted
[01:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:42] <melkor> When it says source package lame, does that mean the package I want liblame-dev is now in the package lame?
[01:46] <ubuntu___> kennt sich hier jemand gut mit M$ Windows XP aus bruchte mal Hilfe
[01:46] <blizzzek> ubuntu___: you're in an english channel, please visit #kubuntu-de
[01:47] <blizzzek> melkor: i think it is
[01:48] <melkor> Its killin me cause I'm certain I'm missing the header files cause it fails when it does an #include lame/lame.h
[01:49] <blizzzek> melkor: are you developing or compiling?
[01:52] <melkor> I'm compiling ffmpeg with mp3 support
[01:55] <blizzzek> well, apt-file tells me the headers are in liblame-dev...
[01:56] <melkor> when I do apt-get install it says ... I cant get it that way.
[01:56] <melkor> but ubuntu website says its in the multiverse
[01:56] <melkor> Which I believe I have enabled
[01:58] <melkor> how do you use apt-files to tell you that?
[01:58] <blizzzek> did you update after enabling the multivers repository?
[01:59] <melkor> yes
[01:59] <melkor> actually its been enabled and I haven't changed anything
[02:00] <blizzzek> apt-file is not installed by default, so you have to install it. then sudo apt-file update, which can take some time. after that you can search for files with spt-file search <filename>
[02:00] <blizzzek> so what is the error message?
[02:01] <melkor> from apt-get install liblame-dev
[02:01] <blizzzek> yes
[02:01] <blizzzek> erm, you have to call it with sudo
[02:01] <melkor> I do
[02:02] <[4K^Javax] > nn all
[02:03] <melkor> Package liblame-dev is not available, but is referred to by another package.  This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source.
[02:04] <blizzzek> melkor: that is kind a weird, cause i installed it this second...
[02:05] <melkor>  deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[02:05] <Daisuke_Ido> blizzzek: do you have additional repos installed?
[02:05] <melkor> is that the multiverse repository or do you have a different line in your sources?
[02:05] <Daisuke_Ido> or rather, specified
[02:05] <Daisuke_Ido> that's multiverse, yes.
[02:05] <Hirvinen> My PPC laptop froze during the upgrade to Feisty, resulting in an unbootable system. It was partitioned on top of LVM with a separate home, so simply installing Feisty on top of it with an alternate CD wouldn't be a big problem, but I'd still like to save some files from the root partition. How would you go about doing that?
[02:05] <blizzzek> Daisuke_Ido: sure, but it is not my problem ;)
[02:05] <blizzzek> melkor: mutliverse
[02:06] <melkor> what do the two lines look like from your sources.list, maybe mine is different somehow
[02:06] <Daisuke_Ido> blizzzek: well jesus, you could possibly offer a little help by letting us know these things.  maybe if we knew what you were running that he wasn't, this might be easier to fix.
[02:07] <Daisuke_Ido> as it stands, you're representative of everything that's wrong with linux.  "fix it yourself", very nice, especially in a distro this community-oriented.  thanks loads.
[02:07] <blizzzek> Daisuke_Ido: ??
[02:07] <melkor> ?
[02:07] <blizzzek> deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main restricted universe multiverse
[02:07] <Daisuke_Ido> i thought i was pretty clear.
[02:08] <Daisuke_Ido> okay, so backports is different
[02:08] <blizzzek> Daisuke_Ido: ah, ok, sry
[02:09] <Daisuke_Ido> blizzzek: it's not entirely you, i've got a lot of free-floating hostility today :\
[02:09] <pepe777> hello
[02:09] <Daisuke_Ido> and i shouldn't, because in three hours and 48 minutes i'll be watching the intro to the new harry potter movie :D
[02:09] <TeraDyne> Daisuke_Ido: That's what FPS games are for.
[02:09] <Daisuke_Ido> TeraDyne: oddly, they don't help :(
[02:10] <TeraDyne> Daisuke_Ido: O_O;
[02:10] <Daisuke_Ido> maybe i just haven't found the right one :D
[02:11] <TeraDyne> Daisuke_Ido: UT2K4, Time Splitters2, and Star Wars Battlefront 2 for me
[02:11] <blizzzek> Daisuke_Ido: i am not a native english speaker and misunderstood your message in first line. :D
[02:12] <Daisuke_Ido> then i apologize
[02:12] <blizzzek> no need to
[02:12] <Daisuke_Ido> i should hunt down my ut2k4 dvd
[02:12] <Daisuke_Ido> that would probably work well
[02:12] <blizzzek> *gg*
[02:12] <Daisuke_Ido> i've been playing nexuiz and quake, which just don't cut it
[02:13] <blizzzek> hm, i never played ut, may be that is way i like nexuiz? ;)
[02:14] <melkor> Thanks, that worked great
[02:14] <Daisuke_Ido> blizzzek: they're similar, but i don't play online, and nexuiz's single player mode just isn't as fulfilling :)
[02:14] <melkor> I think it might solve some other problems I've had too.
[02:14] <melkor> all along I thought I had mutliverse
[02:15] <blizzzek> Daisuke_Ido: right, nexuiz is not made for single player ;)
[02:15] <blizzzek> melkor: you're welcome
[02:16] <Daisuke_Ido> blizzzek: this is true
[02:17] <TeraDyne> What's the grep command to see if Direct Rendering is on in an ATi card?
[02:19] <sweettooth> can anyone play the video news in yahoo using firefox? i have kaffeine plugins installed but it still wouldn't work
[02:20] <TeraDyne> Nevermind. I found it.
[02:20] <isthisnickvalid_> What's the command to build nvidia-legacy-kernel module? I've downloaded all the required files
[02:20] <Daisuke_Ido> isthisnickvalid_: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy
[02:21] <isthisnickvalid_> but that's the command to install it...
[02:21] <Daisuke_Ido> that installs everything you'll need
[02:21] <isthisnickvalid_> but when i try to run with those drivers the log says that there's no kernel module
[02:21] <Daisuke_Ido> what model card?
[02:21] <isthisnickvalid_> nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] 
[02:22] <Daisuke_Ido> ouch
[02:22] <isthisnickvalid_> ouch?
[02:22] <TeraDyne> I have one of those. Never got it to work, though.
[02:22] <Daisuke_Ido> there's a config utility
[02:22] <isthisnickvalid_> automatix...
[02:22] <Daisuke_Ido> but i dunno what it is offhand
[02:22] <Daisuke_Ido> NO
[02:22] <Daisuke_Ido> NO NO a thousand times NO
[02:22] <K-Ryan> !automatix
[02:23] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[02:23] <blizzzek> i had such a card as well, but always used envy
[02:23] <isthisnickvalid_> but I have a 56k connection and have no time to download large things
[02:23] <K-Ryan> NEVER!
[02:23] <isthisnickvalid_> wow... my 56k connection saved me from automatix
[02:23] <isthisnickvalid_> hehe
[02:23] <isthisnickvalid_> !envy
[02:23] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[02:24] <Daisuke_Ido> ooh, i like that factoid
[02:24] <Daisuke_Ido> but the best is still
[02:24] <Daisuke_Ido> !windows
[02:24] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[02:24] <isthisnickvalid_> so does nobody know the command to build modules by hand? with debhelper utility and so
[02:24] <Daisuke_Ido> for that, i have no idea
[02:24] <TeraDyne> Daisuke_Ido: Thanks for mentioning Nexiuz. I'm downloading it now, thanks to your "rec".
[02:24] <K-Ryan> Daisuke_Ido: My personal favorite...
[02:24] <K-Ryan> !love
[02:24] <ubotu> Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[02:25] <isthisnickvalid_> lol mental health institute
[02:25] <Daisuke_Ido> haha
[02:25] <TeraDyne> XD
[02:25] <K-Ryan> !info mordor
[02:25] <ubotu> mordor: Multi User Dungeon game server. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.66a-7 (feisty), package size 1050 kB, installed size 11764 kB
[02:25] <isthisnickvalid_> !OS/2
[02:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about os/2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:25] <K-Ryan> Gah, no help
[02:25] <isthisnickvalid_> !MS-DOS
[02:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ms-dos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:25] <K-Ryan> !dos
[02:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:25] <TeraDyne> XD
[02:25] <isthisnickvalid_> he's very young, lol
[02:25] <TeraDyne> !botabuse
[02:25] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[02:26] <K-Ryan> I was about to
[02:26] <K-Ryan> But I was the last one to use him...
[02:26] <TeraDyne> Investigate... it... O_ol
[02:26] <isthisnickvalid_> damn! so I won't be able to use my card...
[02:27] <stoned> yo
[02:27] <isthisnickvalid_> But I've just seen a blog where the creator says he got it working with.........automatix!! lol
[02:27] <stoned> automatix sucks
[02:27] <K-Ryan> !worksforme
[02:27] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[02:27] <stoned> anything that 'just does it for you' is usually sucky
[02:27] <K-Ryan> Or you got very lucky
[02:28] <K-Ryan> Especially wih automatix..
[02:28] <stoned> yeh
[02:28] <stoned> automatix is garbage
[02:28] <stoned> there is another one that does a good job
[02:28] <stoned> its kinda like automatix, I forgot the name of it
[02:28] <TeraDyne> stoned: EasyUbuntu?
[02:28] <K-Ryan> Envy?
[02:28] <stoned> its much cleaner and nicer
[02:28] <stoned> yes
[02:28] <stoned> thats the one
[02:28] <isthisnickvalid_> I used it once.... to see if I could listen MIDI... it took 2 hours to download the file..and it didn't worked :(
[02:28] <TeraDyne> ?
[02:28] <stoned> easyubuntu
[02:29] <zedQ> Did you know there 's a new Ubuntu
[02:29] <zedQ> Gobuntu
[02:29] <K-Ryan> Gobuntu?
[02:30] <K-Ryan> I know about Fluxbuntu
[02:30] <K-Ryan> Which is awesome
[02:30] <zedQ> Mark Shuttleworth talked about it in his blog today
[02:30] <zedQ> it's an official thing
[02:30] <zedQ> I dont know exactly what it is though
[02:30] <K-Ryan> Fluxbuntu isn't =(
[02:30] <isthisnickvalid_> what's gobuntu?
[02:31] <zedQ> I dont think I dreamed it
[02:31] <zedQ> let me try to find info
[02:31] <K-Ryan> !gobuntu
[02:31] <isthisnickvalid_> Is there a maths channel in the IRC?
[02:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gobuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:31] <K-Ryan> Check
[02:31] <K-Ryan> #math
[02:31] <K-Ryan> #maths
[02:31] <K-Ryan> If there isn't, it will be made when you join
[02:31] <isthisnickvalid_> yes there is!
[02:31] <isthisnickvalid_> well, that was quite offtopic
[02:32] <K-Ryan> The off topic channel for that room is funny
[02:32] <K-Ryan> #not-math
[02:32] <K-Ryan> Hahahah
[02:32] <zedQ> http://markshuttleworth.com/
[02:34] <aaroncampbell> Is there a Java application that prints properly?  I have Zend Studio, and it doesn't print.  They blame my Java install, so I want to test it.  However, apparently Eclipse doesn't print.  Is there anything in the repos that could just be installed via adept that is Java and prints?
[02:34] <isthisnickvalid_> they're kinkda agressive hehe
[02:34] <isthisnickvalid_> *kinda
[02:34] <K-Ryan> #ubuntu can be too
[02:37] <isthisnickvalid_> We will always have kubuntu as home, sweet home :-D
[02:37] <isthisnickvalid_> Is there any big project for the next kubuntu's version?
[02:38] <Biovore> there is aways a next version.. :-P
[02:38] <Shepi> Hi, Can I install Kubuntu desktop i386 without burning it to a cd?
[02:38] <petos_> hello
[02:38] <isthisnickvalid_> I think you can install it via LAN.
[02:39] <isthisnickvalid_> I mean something great like 3d desktop by default, and so.
[02:39] <Shepi> Any ther ethods
[02:41] <TeraDyne> Shepi: I don't think so.
[02:42] <blizzz> i made it once via floppy disk....
[02:43] <Shepi> What is the difference between Alternate and Desktop version?
[02:44] <Dragnslcr> !alternate
[02:44] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[02:44] <blizzz> Shepi: the Desktop is also a live version an graphical, the alternate is just the text installer
[02:44] <Shepi> thank you
[02:45] <Dragnslcr> isthisnickvalid_- there may be a new version of Compiz ready by October, but you can always install the development version from their repository
[02:48] <jhutchins> It's not like the released versions are more stable than CVS/SVN anyway.
[02:49] <namol> evening :)
[02:49] <isthisnickvalid_> bye
[03:07] <krokoach> hi
[03:07] <namol> hi
[03:07] <juhorner25> Hi all
[03:08] <namol> hello
[03:08] <juhorner25> Everybody having a good night I hope
[03:08] <juhorner25> Anybody know how to delete a game demo?
[03:09] <juhorner25> Of course in the gui I can't delete folders
[03:09] <juhorner25> from /etc/local/games/
[03:09] <Biovore> use sudo rm foldername
[03:09] <jtmoney> you have to sudo
[03:09] <juhorner25> rm stands for remove?
[03:10] <namol> juhorner25, sudo rm -R foldername
[03:10] <namol> from the command line
[03:10] <krokoach> hi
[03:10] <krokoach> hello?
[03:10] <krokoach> I was disconnected
[03:10] <namol> -R is the option for removing folders
[03:10] <namol> hi krokoach
[03:10] <krokoach> my question was if pppoe is installed by default in Kubuntu ISO?
[03:10] <krokoach> thanks
[03:11] <krokoach> I am having issues connecting to that crap
[03:11] <juhorner25> Alright, so it would be sudo -r (folder name)
[03:11] <namol> juhorner25, no, sudo rm -R foldernamehere
[03:11] <juhorner25> And I just delete the game folder, it doesn't have any crap in the system elsewhere like Windows correct?
[03:11] <juhorner25> Oh okay
[03:11] <juhorner25> Thanks guys
[03:11] <namol> juhorner25, no, the games have some things that are useful
[03:12] <Biovore> maybe a hidden directory in your home dir..
[03:12] <krokoach> is there a KDE package for PPPoE?
[03:12] <namol> juhorner25, what was the game demo called?
[03:12] <krokoach> thanks
[03:12] <Biovore> ls -alh in your home dir..
[03:12] <krokoach> !pppoe
[03:12] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[03:12] <krokoach> OMG!!!
[03:12] <juhorner25> So how do I just remove the whole game and all of its left overs
[03:12] <juhorner25> It's the Quake 4 demo to be specific
[03:12] <Biovore> delete all its files..
[03:12] <Biovore> oh.. yeah..
[03:12] <namol> where did you install it do?
[03:12] <Biovore> delete the quake folder
[03:13] <Biovore> and delete the hidden file in your home dir.. done..
[03:13] <juhorner25> It installs to /etc/loca/games
[03:13] <juhorner25> Alright, I'll give it a shot, thanks
[03:14] <krokoach> what do I need in order to share m$$$ printer and folder  with Kubuntu?
[03:15] <namol> is the printer on the windows machine?
[03:15] <Biovore> krokoach: add it as a samba printer in the kde print thing..
[03:15] <krokoach> namol: yes
[03:16] <krokoach> kubuntu tells me is not installed
[03:16] <namol> krokoach, use samba to see and use the folder
[03:16] <namol> krokoach, apt-get install samba from the command line :D
[03:16] <krokoach> should I install it ?
[03:16] <krokoach> k
[03:17] <namol> sudo apt-get install samba
[03:17] <krokoach> if the m$$ account doesn't have password am I alright?
[03:17] <namol> sure
[03:17] <krokoach> do I need to set something on the m$$ craPC?
[03:17] <namol> no
[03:18] <namol> well it has to be shared out
[03:18] <krokoach> w00t
[03:18] <namol> that's all
[03:18] <namol> and the security has to be set for it so everyone has control over it
[03:18] <krokoach> namol: it's a shared folder among several computers
[03:19] <namol> otherwise you'll have to enter in some form of credentials to access is
[03:19] <Daisuke_Ido> respect.  you have to give it to get it.  that includes using non-alphanumeric characters in saying MS.  i don't like them either, but still, can you at least TRY to rise above juvenile behaviour?
[03:19] <namol> d00dz
[03:20] <namol> :%s is/it//
[03:20] <namol> i'm having typing troubles tonight, :(
[03:20] <krokoach> how do I find out whether I am using Xinetd or intetd?
[03:20] <krokoach> I know that I've installed Xinetd
[03:21] <krokoach> ok I have a juvenile behaviour cause I say m$$$?
[03:22] <krokoach> pardon sir Daisuke if thy honor dislikes not being politically correct
[03:22] <namol> krokoach, an attitude like that will not get you helped
[03:22] <krokoach> sshheeesh the least thing I expect is someone correcting me how I say m$$$
[03:23] <krokoach> namol: It kinda pisses me ppl who think themselves higher cuase they don't say m$$$
[03:23] <Daisuke_Ido> krokoach: yes, it's juvenile and completely unnecessary
[03:24] <krokoach> and on top of that want to correct and insult ppl saying m$$$
[03:24] <namol> krokoach, i think you're missing the point. He's not higher because he doesn't use some script kiddie slang from back in the 90s
[03:24] <krokoach> I think is unnecesary to say that it's unnecesary to correct how to spell m$$
[03:25] <Daisuke_Ido> it's not "spelling" if you're not using letters.
[03:25] <namol> last time i checked, a dollar sign is not a recognized letter
[03:25] <Daisuke_Ido> it's retarded.
[03:25] <krokoach> windoze, m$$ whatever to refer to m$$
[03:25] <namol> mss?
[03:25] <krokoach> wait I got!!
[03:25] <juhorner25> Alright got that uninstalled, awesome
[03:25] <Daisuke_Ido> it's been done to death, and adding an extra dollar sign doesn't make it "cool", it actually makes it LESS intelligent.
[03:25] <namol> juhorner25, nice work :)
[03:25] <juhorner25> How does Linux run games so much better?
[03:25] <juhorner25> It's amazes me
[03:25] <krokoach> Microsoft Windows XP (TM)
[03:26] <krokoach> happy now?
[03:26] <namol> microsoft has more than one product you know
[03:26] <krokoach> ok then I am less intelligent
[03:26] <juhorner25> Yeah, I try to stay away from them all
[03:26] <juhorner25> lol
[03:26] <juhorner25> ;-D
[03:26] <Daisuke_Ido> krokoach: i've had this debate with you before (you were using a different nick).  i didn't like your attitude then, i like it even less now.
[03:26] <krokoach> in fact I am less intelligent than someone using m$$ too
[03:27] <krokoach> well I really didn't want to get into this discussion
[03:27] <krokoach> I only needed help to share a folder
[03:27] <Daisuke_Ido> krokoach: with your selective "hearing"?  that doesn't make you less intelligent, that makes you a perfect candidate for politics.
[03:27] <krokoach> I didn't start it ;-)
[03:27] <Daisuke_Ido> "I didn't start it"
[03:27] <namol> how old are you? 12?
[03:27] <namol> !samba
[03:27] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:27] <Daisuke_Ido> [21:20]  <krokoach> do I need to set something on the m$$ craPC?
[03:27] <Daisuke_Ido> see, I think you did.
[03:28] <namol> there you go, go read and learn.
[03:28] <krokoach> mm... who the #$^ cares about m$$$?
[03:28] <krokoach> I personally don't
[03:28] <Daisuke_Ido> then stop talking about it
[03:28] <krokoach> namol: thanks
[03:29] <krokoach> then stop goading me into it
[03:29] <Daisuke_Ido> fanaticism works both ways, for and against.  you're so far against MS that you're just as annoying as their corporate shills that offer nothing but glowing praise for their products.
[03:29] <Daisuke_Ido> the fact that you ARE so vocal about this shows that you do care.
[03:30] <Daisuke_Ido> and if you read that as me goading you into MS-bashing, then you really need to grow up.
[03:30] <krokoach> Daisuke_Ido: I can completely tear your argument apart, but that would just continue the OT
[03:31] <namol> so what do you have against microsoft?
[03:31] <Daisuke_Ido> Which I read as "I can completely tear your argument apart, no, wait, no I can't."
[03:31] <namol> so who has some questions about kubuntu
[03:32] <Daisuke_Ido> good cop bad cop?
[03:32] <krokoach> Daisuke_Ido: I do. The logic of the above statements lend itself a lot of room for disparity
[03:33] <krokoach> I do, how do I find out whether I have xinetd or inetd running? I know that I installed xinetd but don't know if it's being used as default or automatically replaces inetd
[03:33] <krokoach> ps aux | grep xinetd <--- is this prove that is running?
[03:35] <krokoach> I guess
[03:35] <krokoach> hello anyone?
[03:35] <K-Ryan> Hi
[03:35] <Daisuke_Ido> actually
[03:35] <Daisuke_Ido> instead of grep xinetd, grep inetd
[03:35] <Daisuke_Ido> that would tell you if there's another one running instead
[03:35] <krokoach> it only shows xinetd
[03:35] <krokoach> grep inetd also returns xinetd
[03:35] <Daisuke_Ido> then xinetd it is
[03:36] <krokoach> ok thanks
[03:36] <Daisuke_Ido> you're welcome
[03:36] <juhorner25> Just to give us something to talk about Kubuntu wise....
[03:37] <juhorner25> What exactly are the limits of Wine?
[03:37] <namol> j00r w31c0m3
[03:37] <krokoach> do I need to install lisa reslisa and kioslaves?
[03:37] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm...  dx9, i think
[03:37] <K-Ryan> #wine
[03:37] <juhorner25> If I have quake4 for PC, could wine get it to Kubuntu?
[03:37] <K-Ryan> !quake
[03:37] <juhorner25> Oh okay, sorry
[03:37] <ubotu> Quake runs natively under Ubuntu - See http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4/ for details
[03:37] <K-Ryan> =)
[03:37] <namol> well i'm limited to about three glasses before the headache sets in
[03:37] <juhorner25> LoL Nice Namol
[03:37] <Daisuke_Ido> isn't there a linux version of q4?
[03:37] <krokoach> namol: oh cmon now you are blowing it outta proportion
[03:37] <juhorner25> yeah there is
[03:37] <K-Ryan> It's okay juhorner25
[03:37] <Daisuke_Ido> i'll even agree with that one.
[03:37] <juhorner25> This is my first time using IRC, I always forget the other sections
[03:38] <Daisuke_Ido> juhorner25: i actually got S.T.A.L.K.E.R. running in wine.  some graphical glitches, but it shows that it's at least possible to run modern windows games under linux
[03:38] <namol> there's a bunch of nice games that run native on linux
[03:39] <namol> I've run bf2 in Wine
[03:39] <krokoach> zsnes
[03:39] <zedQ> anyone know what Gobuntu is exactly?
[03:39] <Daisuke_Ido> now, with DX10, that might take a little time for the wine devs to reverse-engineer, but you know they're already working on it
[03:39] <juhorner25> Well I know that Q4 is for linux, just had to buy it a second time if I don't have to
[03:39] <krokoach> zedQ: prolly a fork?
[03:39] <zedQ> Audacious + extra plugins plays SNES soundtracks
[03:39] <zedQ> krokoach, did you see Mark Shuttleworth's post
[03:39] <Daisuke_Ido> juhorner25: you might be able to get the linux installer from the official site
[03:40] <juhorner25> Daisuke_Ido:  Sweet, I'll look around
[03:40] <zedQ> www.markshuttleworth.com
[03:40] <juhorner25> Daisuke_Ido: I love Open Arena lol, I'm a old Q3 player so to me that is a blast
[03:40] <juhorner25> Daisuke_Ido: I think I have an old version thought because not many people play online, which is a shame
[03:41] <krokoach> wOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!!!
[03:41] <juhorner25> Daisuke_Ido: I shouldn't be talking about games here though, XD
[03:41] <Daisuke_Ido> definitely look around, all of the unreal tournament games have linux versions
[03:41] <krokoach> this is insane
[03:41] <namol> juhorner25, if you like quake, enemy territory is based off the same engine
[03:41] <krokoach> I didn't have to do anything!!
[03:41] <namol> and it runs well in linux
[03:41] <juhorner25> ET is native linux isn't it?
[03:41] <krokoach> and I can see m$$$ craPC stuff!!!
[03:41] <namol> yup
[03:41] <juhorner25> and free :-D
[03:41] <krokoach> wow
[03:41] <krokoach> just like that
[03:42] <Daisuke_Ido> juhorner25: http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4/
[03:42] <krokoach> OMG this is insane
[03:43] <krokoach> anyone using Samba as well?
[03:43] <namol> zedQ, gobuntu is going to be the 7.10 version of ubuntu that doesn't have any packages/drivers/firmware etc that does not include the source
[03:44] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu customized to FSF's vision of "free": free and open
[03:44] <namol> ja
[03:44] <Daisuke_Ido> complete with iceweasel?
[03:45] <namol> probably
[03:45] <krokoach> what's zeroconf?
[03:45] <krokoach> i don't see the m$$ printer
[03:45] <juhorner25> So you can download the whole game for free legally?  (talking about quake 4)
[03:46] <krokoach> where is it supposed to show up?
[03:46] <K-Ryan> juhorner25: I think it would be more along the lines of a linux installer
[03:46] <namol> zero configuration networking
[03:46] <zedQ> namol, ok ty
[03:46] <K-Ryan> I don't know about ID, but it seems to be popular to make people pay for different versions of the game.
[03:46] <namol> krokoach, you have to add it in the printers
[03:46] <Daisuke_Ido> it's just the installer, you have to provide your own windows cd + cd key
[03:47] <krokoach> oh ok
[03:47] <Daisuke_Ido> K-Ryan: id's actually pretty good about that, they provide the linux installer and let you use the version you've already bought :)
[03:47] <K-Ryan> Daisuke_Ido: That's great! If only it were always like that...
[03:48] <juhorner25> Oh okay, awesome
[03:48] <juhorner25> Why don't you guys play some Open Arena with me someday, we can get on teamspeak and just have some fun
[03:48] <Daisuke_Ido> with ubuntu picking up steam, i can see more companies doing something like this, as long as the games use opengl
[03:48] <Daisuke_Ido> or at least, CAN use opengl
[03:48] <krokoach> namol: what is it, "access printer on local network" or "share printer on local network?
[03:49] <juhorner25> ID software seems to be good to Linux, which is great for us
[03:49] <namol> access
[03:49] <juhorner25> I wonder if we will see Quake Wars on Linux?
[03:49] <krokoach> I've converted countless of windoze lusrs
[03:49] <namol> list users?
[03:49] <namol> what
[03:49] <Daisuke_Ido> and that should be "ubuntu picking up momentum" rather than steam, which made it sound like canonical is purchasing valve
[03:50] <juhorner25> The only reason I still have Windows on another partition is for development
[03:50] <krokoach> namol: don't know how to add the printer
[03:50] <juhorner25> At school we have to do the programs on Windows with the software they have at the college
[03:50] <krokoach> namol: there are to many choices to add printers
[03:50] <namol> well what type of printer is it?
[03:50] <Daisuke_Ido> juhorner25: that's why i'm getting a laptop come fall
[03:50] <K-Ryan> Daisuke_Ido: True =P
[03:50] <juhorner25> Even if it is C++, which is what I prefer, but they want to use VB.NET and C#
[03:51] <Daisuke_Ido> ouch, sounds like my school
[03:51] <namol> juhorner25, my school has us use removable rackmount hds
[03:51] <Daisuke_Ido> not VB, but C#
[03:51] <krokoach> "Add Printer/Class" or "Add Special Pseudo Printer"?
[03:51] <juhorner25> C# is interesting, since I am coming from a C++ background
[03:51] <namol> krokoach, what the hell are you in?
[03:51] <juhorner25> It's amazing how Microsoft is trying to take over the developers
[03:51] <juhorner25> Pisses me off a bit
[03:51] <krokoach> namol: in Linux
[03:51] <Daisuke_Ido> and the worst part of the whole thing is the next two semesters i'm taking required classes...  in java programming :(
[03:52] <juhorner25> You don't like Java?
[03:52] <krokoach> you said add it in KDE printer dialog?
[03:52] <Daisuke_Ido> not particularlt
[03:52] <Daisuke_Ido> since we HAVE to use jbuilder
[03:52] <Daisuke_Ido> which means i HAVE to buy it :(
[03:52] <juhorner25> You have used VB though right?
[03:52] <juhorner25> In Visual Studio?
[03:53] <krokoach> namol: is under "Printer Server" that I should look up?
[03:53] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm ashamed to admit it, but yes, before .net
[03:53] <juhorner25> OuCh!!!
[03:53] <juhorner25> I can't imagine
[03:53] <juhorner25> What version of Visual Studio did they give you?
[03:53] <Daisuke_Ido> no, this wasn't through school
[03:53] <Daisuke_Ido> VB isn't required at all
[03:54] <namol> ok i gotcha now krokoach
[03:54] <Daisuke_Ido> it starts at Java
[03:54] <namol> click add printer/class
[03:54] <Daisuke_Ido> which is a base level class for their CS degree
[03:54] <krokoach> namol: k thanks
[03:54] <juhorner25> Oh okay
[03:54] <namol> chose smb shared printer
[03:55] <juhorner25> Well we have VB and Advanced VB
[03:55] <juhorner25> at the same time they have you taking Java as well
[03:55] <juhorner25> Then C++
[03:55] <krokoach> namol: I saw it. Even if the printer is hooked up with USB cable to the PC?
[03:55] <juhorner25> Three classes of Java.....
[03:55] <Daisuke_Ido> which may as well be "Things for Employers to Laugh At" and "More Things for Employers to Laugh At"
[03:56] <Daisuke_Ido> C++ is coming up after Java
[03:56] <namol> krokoach, yea as long as it is shared out on that windows pc
[03:56] <namol> it'll find it
[03:56] <juhorner25> Well, actually a lot of software companies I have come into contact with actually use VB.NET
[03:56] <Daisuke_Ido> actually i think you can go C first then C++
[03:56] <Daisuke_Ido> which i would prefer not to do, personally
[03:56] <juhorner25> Because the database integration is so excellent
[03:56] <Dragnslcr> VB.NET is far more sane than old versions of VB
[03:56] <krokoach> namol: yeah it's shared between several computers
[03:57] <Daisuke_Ido> that's not so bad then
[03:57] <juhorner25> See....
[03:57] <Daisuke_Ido> like i said, i used VB back when...
[03:57] <namol> the last software company i worked for used some proprietary code that was like basic. damn you sage software
[03:57] <Daisuke_Ido> pre-.Net
[03:57] <Dragnslcr> The place I did my internship in college used a language that was a mix of C and Lisp
[03:57] <Dragnslcr> Thankfully I never had to touch it
[03:58] <krokoach> I don't know how to code
[03:58] <namol> where i work now, we use lisp
[03:58] <namol> autocad is all about lisp
[03:58] <juhorner25> VB.NET is well used for businesses and software companies becuase it is very efficent with database and web integration
[03:58] <krokoach> is it hard to code a basic calculator?
[03:59] <namol> depends on what you code it in
[03:59] <juhorner25> if you are developing for windows (typically) you can cut the time down more than half becuase of how well programming and datbases are done in VB.NET
[03:59] <juhorner25> So business can get things done faster, and it is very easy to maintain because you can edit the database and the program will pick up on the change, no source code change in that area
[03:59] <juhorner25> But, still, I hate Visual Studio
[03:59] <juhorner25> lol
[04:00] <namol> if you're new to programming pick up something easy first. Like bash scripting. It helps teach the flow and structure of writing a program
[04:00] <namol> wait, your code is stored in the database?
[04:00] <krokoach> but what can I do with bash?
[04:00] <krokoach> what's a good idea?
[04:01] <namol> krokoach, write scripts to automate things
[04:01] <krokoach> I mean a good beginners practice?
[04:01] <krokoach> oh
[04:01] <juhorner25> The database is integrated, so instead of having the software to update the database, the software just inherits the change because the database it "in" the program
[04:01] <namol> so obviously this program is not interactive with more than one user
[04:02] <namol> because i'm having a hard time envisioning a program with a self contained database being used by everyone as it gets updated
[04:02] <juhorner25> Well thing about a hospital database
[04:02] <namol> ok.
[04:03] <juhorner25> They don't look at the dry database do they? at least Chapil Hill doesn't (that's where I go)
[04:03] <juhorner25> A program runs the database in the background but the program gives it a nice interface
[04:03] <juhorner25> Technically they are looking at a database in an different form
[04:03] <namol> the program calls the database, not run it
[04:03] <namol> there's quite a difference
[04:03] <raptorquest> Is it possible to move the bar on the bottom of the screen to the right side?  It was a simple thing in Debian, But I can't do it with the KDE in Kubunttu.
[04:04] <juhorner25> Yes there is, agreed
[04:04] <juhorner25> I am just trying to demonstrate in words how it has changed
[04:05] <juhorner25> Obviousy do you see any reason for a program to run a database at the same time?  Not in the situation, so yes it is technically being called
[04:05] <Dragnslcr> raptorquest- right click in the panel and go to Configure Panel
[04:05] <Dragnslcr> raptorquest- position should be the first thing you see
[04:06] <juhorner25> Hey Daisuke_Ido, you still here?
[04:07] <juhorner25> Guess not, alright thanks for the previous help
[04:07] <juhorner25> Take it easy guys
[04:07] <juhorner25> Try not to kill the Microsoft bashers lol
[04:08] <krokoach> oh I see, in m$$ the printer is like //foo so samba goes and finds that? pretty smart
[04:08] <raptorquest> did that....did not see any position indicator
[04:08] <Dragnslcr> Are you on the Arrangement tab?
[04:08] <raptorquest> when I did get any type of position indicator all i could do was move some bar to the top
[04:09] <raptorquest> hmmmmm...
[04:10] <krokoach> is //fooo a raw printer or I do need the driver?
[04:10] <namol> krokoach, i dunno
[04:10] <namol> you could use the generic text driver
[04:10] <namol> and have just plain text
[04:10] <namol> but if you want graphics or anything like that you'll need to use the driver
[04:11] <namol> or a compatible driver
[04:11] <krokoach> lexmark has a driver on their website with a .deb package, should I install that one?
[04:11] <namol> is it for your printer?
[04:11] <krokoach> sudo dpkg -i printerdriver.deb
[04:11] <krokoach> yeah
[04:13] <raptorquest> I get "configure kdesktop" on top and Background, Behaviour, Multiple Desktops and Screen Saver along the left side
[04:14] <krokoach> damn is not printing
[04:16] <Dragnslcr> raptorquest- that doesn't sound like the Configure Panel dialog
[04:17] <krokoach> didn't linux start because some guy was fed up with printing drivers? something like that
[04:18] <raptorquest> It's not -- the only choice I have to configure anything is "Configure desktop" after hitting right button
[04:19] <BluesKaj> what's the universal side bar in panel oprions
[04:19] <BluesKaj> err options
[04:20] <krokoach> is not working
[04:21] <krokoach> in the name of the printer I should put the name of the m$$$$$$$$$$$$ path?
[04:21] <krokoach> let's say //computershared/name of printer?
[04:22] <krokoach> wrong, \\computer\name of printer <---- should I use those?
[04:22] <BluesKaj> raptorquest, I suppose you tried dragging the panel ?
[04:22] <Dragnslcr> raptorquest- did you actually right click in the panel? Make sure you see an option "Configure Panel"
[04:23] <krokoach> I have it like this URI \\test\test\lexmark
[04:23] <krokoach> is that wrong?
[04:23] <krokoach> oh no smb://test/test/lexmark
[04:23] <raptorquest> got it -- was clicking in wrong area
[04:23] <krokoach> I don't know what the heck am I doing :S
[04:24] <BluesKaj> krokoach, did you run the add printer wizard in system settings/printer ?
[04:25] <krokoach> yes I am finisehed with that
[04:25] <BluesKaj> did you print the test page ?
[04:25] <krokoach> wait the URI si different
[04:25] <krokoach> yeah didn't print
[04:26] <krokoach> ipp://localhost:631/printers/Lexmark
[04:26] <krokoach> that's the URI
[04:27] <raptorquest> not exactly the same as before but workable
[04:27] <raptorquest> thanks
[04:28] <BluesKaj> TeraDyne, to study ..... ?
[04:28] <TeraDyne> BluesKaj: Web Development
[04:28] <BluesKaj> ahh
[04:29] <TeraDyne> BluesKaj: It even includes "Introduction to Linux\Unix" in the course.
[04:31] <BluesKaj> that oughta be interesting
[04:31] <TeraDyne> http://www.bakercollegeonline.com/index.cfm/degreeonline-program-view-BachelorWebDevelopmentWebDevelopment
[04:31] <TeraDyne> That's the entire course. ^
[04:32] <krokoach> wtf??!! a driver 27.1MB ??!!!
[04:32] <TeraDyne> krokoach: I've seen them bigger on Windows. I had a printer driver that was 37 MB for an old lexmark Z series.
[04:33] <krokoach> is for a lexmark too
[04:33] <krokoach> but I've read an open driver works fine
[04:33] <krokoach> but I am having issues because is SAMBA
[04:34] <BluesKaj> network printer ?
[04:34] <krokoach> yeah
[04:34] <krokoach> is not working
[04:34] <krokoach> is not magic like samba sharing lol
[04:34] <BluesKaj> is it connected to your pc ?
[04:36] <krokoach> BluesKaj: nope, to the m$$ PC through USB
[04:36] <BluesKaj> is the MS pc turned on ?
[04:36] <krokoach> yeah I just printed something
[04:36] <krokoach> form m$$
[04:37] <krokoach> *from
[04:39] <krokoach> when I print from linux the printer icon has a cross sign
[04:39] <BluesKaj> krokoach, you really don't need to install a driver on your pc , cups will see the driver on the MS pc which should should be called MSHOME
[04:39] <Nyle> come on man
[04:39] <Nyle> get with the program
[04:40] <Nyle> network printers. 'nuff said.
[04:40] <BluesKaj> well, it works on my network , i just used the MS driver name as the the printer in cups
[04:41] <krokoach> BluesKaj: the pc is all set up and networked with some other pcs
[04:41] <krokoach> with my linux I can see the shared folders MSHOME as you said, but I can't print
[04:42] <BluesKaj> yes, you have to give the MSHOME printer driver name as the printer name in cups
[04:42] <draik> How do I get apps that are not in my repos, but in the debian repos?
[04:43] <Nyle> use debian
[04:43] <draik> I'm trying to install OpenGoGear to be able to read my friend's Philips GoGear
[04:43] <Nyle> boot with the etch cd
[04:43] <draik> But I seem to be missing some apps
[04:43] <Nyle> or compile packages youself on ubuntu
[04:43] <Nyle> not good to mix distros
[04:43] <Nyle> and I don't think debian packages are supported in kubuntu/ubuntu channels
[04:44] <draik> Nyle: What if I went to the Debian homepage and got the deb packages from the site and installed them on my Kubuntu system?
[04:44] <Nyle> sure you can do that
[04:44] <BluesKaj> draik , especially dependencies as i found out to my chagrin
[04:44] <TeraDyne> Philips GoGear... The little thumbdrive sized player?
[04:44] <krokoach> BluesKaj: mmm... give the name in linux the same as winodeze? meaning this \\printers\Lexmark?
[04:44] <draik> TeraDyne: Somewhat. They are about the size of a dec of cards
[04:45] <BluesKaj> krokoach, check on the MS pc what the printer driver name is
[04:45] <krokoach> oh I see, where do I check that?
[04:46] <TeraDyne> draik: I have the little thumbdrive shaped one. It's a 512MB player.
[04:46] <krokoach> oh I see!! in SMB Printer Settings?
[04:46] <BluesKaj> in the printers in the control panel, properties , i think
[04:46] <krokoach> I wrote test adn test
[04:46] <draik> I don't recall the size of my friend's player, but I know its in the gigs
[04:46] <draik> TeraDyne: How are you able to pull music from the GoGear unit?
[04:46] <draik> That's what I'm trying to do
[04:46] <krokoach> so Workgroup MSHOME
[04:47] <BluesKaj> yup
[04:47] <TeraDyne> draik: I just use mine like a thumbdrive. No special app needed.
[04:47] <draik> TeraDyne: I did that. I plugged in the player and nothing.
[04:47] <draik> Then again, I was using Edgy
[04:47] <draik> BRB
[04:49] <krokoach> BluesKaj: what goes in server?
[04:50] <BluesKaj> the MS pc model name usually , like mine is 'Pavilion'
[04:50] <draik> TeraDyne: Was there a big change from Edgy to Feisty in regards to the read/write of GoGear?
[04:51] <TeraDyne> draik: Nope. Not that I know of.
[04:51] <draik> TeraDyne: And you are able to pull the music OFF the player?
[04:52] <draik> I recall being able to view the folders and files, but I was unable to copy everything over
[04:52] <krokoach> BluesKaj: but it appears as "Mshome"
[04:52] <draik> The folders were copied, but not the music
[04:52] <TeraDyne> Yes. In fact, I'm even using it like a thimbdrive so I can keep important stuff on it, like ndiswrapper.
[04:52] <BluesKaj> in samba on the network
[04:52] <BluesKaj> ?
[04:52] <draik> I guess I will have to try again
[04:52] <TeraDyne> draik: how old is this player?
[04:53] <krokoach> BluesKaj: yeah in Samba I have two "Mshome" and "Workgroup"
[04:53] <draik> TeraDyne: Honestly, I don't know. It's my friend's player.
[04:54] <TeraDyne> Mine is about 2-3 years old.
[04:54] <draik> I would assume his is as well
[04:54] <TeraDyne> draik: There are newer ones out as well that require the special app. His may be one of those.
[04:54] <BluesKaj> don't let samba distract you right now ...if you have samba open , pls close it an run the printer wizard
[04:55] <BluesKaj> when you run the printer wizard again make sure you choose 'SMB shared printer windows'
[04:55] <krokoach> BluesKaj: I am right there
[04:55] <draik> TeraDyne: Would you know where I can find the list?
[04:55] <krokoach> BluesKaj: I am here "SMB Printer Settings"
[04:55] <TeraDyne> draik: Not off hand. Let me do a quick search.
[04:56] <draik> Thank you much
[04:56] <krokoach> with 3 boxes to fill "Workgtoup:   " and  "Server:   " and "Printer:     "
[04:56] <BluesKaj> ok, what did you put in user ID ?
[04:56] <Pollywog> did anyone else update Feisty yesterday and then start having trouble?
[04:56] <krokoach> anonymous
[04:57] <krokoach> wait whose ID?
[04:57] <BluesKaj> use guest acct if you can
[04:58] <krokoach> BluesKaj: ok I changed it to guest, the problem is that it only shows Workgroup and in workgroup it only appears myself the linux computer and not the others
[04:58] <krokoach> when I scan
[04:58] <krokoach> and I don't know what to put in server
[04:59] <BluesKaj> ok , type the computer name like 'Compaq 'or whatever its called on the network, on the bottom space
[05:00] <BluesKaj> server space ather
[05:00] <BluesKaj> rather
[05:00] <krokoach> oh ok! the user of the PC when login in?
[05:01] <krokoach> or the computer name where the printer is hooked up? prolly the latter
[05:01] <BluesKaj> what did you type beside printer ?
[05:02] <TeraDyne> draik: Wikipedia says this> "Newer GoGear devices does not use USB mass storage, but the Media Transfer Protocol." So mine is different.
[05:02] <draik> TeraDyne: Thank you. I will play with it tomorrow
[05:02] <draik> But would you know why I couldn't get the audio on a simple copy
[05:02] <krokoach> in "Workgroup" I put Mshome in server I am looking at the name of the computer right now
[05:03] <TeraDyne> draik: Nope. Sorry. I'm at a loss on that.
[05:03] <TeraDyne> draik: Might find this slightly useful > http://tuxmobil.org/player_linux_survey_philips.html
[05:03] <BluesKaj> krokoach, the name of the printer driver that is in the properties dialog on the MS pc should be in the 'printer' space on the wizard
[05:04] <krokoach> BluesKaj: ok
[05:08] <krokoach> BluesKaj: when you say printer driver is not the same as the printer name?
[05:10] <BluesKaj> krokoach, no it will be in printer properties on the MS pc , right click on the printer in the printer folder and choose properties ...the name of the driver should be listed
[05:10] <krokoach> Lexmark E238
[05:10] <krokoach> that's what appears
[05:10] <BluesKaj> beside driver ?
[05:11] <Nyle> does anyone know of a backport or deb package of ktorrent 2.2rc2 or something
[05:11] <Nyle> latest one that is
[05:11] <krokoach> BluesKaj: it's a the Lexmark dialog not XP's
[05:11] <jhutchins> !info ktorrent
[05:11] <ubotu> ktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1-0ubuntu2.1 (feisty), package size 2347 kB, installed size 8852 kB
[05:11] <Nyle> i mean a source package
[05:11] <dr_willis> proberly need to use source to get a newer ktorrent
[05:12] <Nyle> yes
[05:12] <Nyle> oh nm
[05:12] <dr_willis> or perhaps the 3.5.7  released packages..
[05:12] <jhutchins> !info ktorrent gutsy
[05:12] <Nyle> http://ktorrent.org/index.php?page=downloads
[05:12] <ubotu> ktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 2600 kB, installed size 9716 kB
[05:12] <Nyle> :D
[05:12] <krokoach> BluesKaj: yeah that's the printer driver name
[05:13] <Nyle> what is a fast mirror for nyc
[05:13] <krokoach> it's beside driver
[05:13] <BluesKaj> cool , then type that into the wizard beside "printer"
[05:13] <draik> TeraDyne: Thank you. That was helpful
[05:13] <draik> I will have to wait until tomorrow until I can get the GoGear and pull the audio
[05:13] <krokoach> BluesKaj: server is the name of hte XP computer?
[05:14] <krokoach> and workgroup is MSHOME?
[05:14] <BluesKaj> yes
[05:14] <draik> TeraDyne: Would you happen to know wny I wasn't able to retrieve the mp3 files?
[05:16] <krokoach> BluesKaj: the printer is being shared among several XP and the shared name is "Printer", does this make things different?
[05:17] <BluesKaj> it shouldn't matter to the linux pc
[05:17] <krokoach> ok
[05:18] <BluesKaj> samba and cups work together to talk to the MS printer in commands it knows translating from linux : hence the driver being an MS one
[05:19] <krokoach> ok, I think perhaps with a different driver will work
[05:19] <krokoach> is not printing the test page
[05:19] <TeraDyne> draik: Unfourtunately, I'm not sure. I don't use the newer GoGear players, not while I have my iPod Nano, anyway.
[05:20] <krokoach> I've got a Generic driver reportedly working with this printer
[05:20] <BluesKaj> if the printer wasn't networked and hooked directly to your linux pc , then you'd require a linux driver
[05:20] <BluesKaj> yeah, lotsa generic plugnplays work in linux
[05:22] <krokoach> BluesKaj: the printer is directly connected to the XP pc through a USB cable
[05:22] <BluesKaj> hmm , but sometimes it takes a minute or 2 ...i know ir does on ours.
[05:23] <krokoach> oh
[05:23] <K-Ryan> How can I check what programs are using my sound device?
[05:23] <draik> TeraDyne: I bought my fiance an iPod. How well does it respond with Feisty?
[05:23] <BluesKaj> are both pcs sharing a router , krokoach ?
[05:24] <TeraDyne> draik: Pretty well. Amarok and GTKpod are great for getting your music on it.
[05:24] <krokoach> BluesKaj: yeah
[05:24] <draik> Noob question here: How do I install a tgz file?
[05:25] <TeraDyne> draik: I use RockBox now. Awesome replacement for the standard iPod OS. Even plays oggs.
[05:25] <dr_willis> draik,  in short you 'dont' - you uncompress the thing and then compile the source/install that. :) IF its src.
[05:25] <krokoach> BluesKaj: do you think setting the printer as network instead of USB will be better? I think ip printer
[05:25] <BluesKaj> krokoach, do you still have the linux driver installed on your pc ?
[05:25] <dr_willis> tgz = tar.gz
[05:26] <krokoach> BluesKaj: I am using a generic one, the lexmark driver from the LExmark website I didn't install it yet
[05:26] <BluesKaj> where did you tell it the wizard it was USB
[05:26] <krokoach> BluesKaj: no I didnt
[05:27] <krokoach> I was just thinking that if I set the printer for XP and linux as a IP server printer could be easier
[05:27] <krokoach> dunno
[05:27] <BluesKaj> ok, close the wizard , and open samba client to see what's listed on the network
[05:28] <draik> dr_willis: I'm not sure what it is. It's only the file name and nothing else
[05:28] <draik> No extension
[05:28] <krokoach> BluesKaj: in KDE System Settings?
[05:29] <dr_willis> drik where did it come from then? and why are you messing with it. :)
[05:29] <BluesKaj> krokoach, i thought you had samba installed ?
[05:29] <krokoach> BluesKaj: oh my bad I didn't check in programs :S
[05:29] <draik> dr_willis: golb. I'm trying to install GoGear On Linux Boxes
[05:30] <dr_willis> never heard of it
[05:30] <K-Ryan> Anyone know how I can check what programs are using my sound device?
[05:30] <krokoach> BluesKaj: all I did is this sudo apt-get install samba
[05:31] <krokoach> BluesKaj: do I need something else?
[05:31] <BluesKaj> krokoach, the printer/networking needs samba to connect with the printer using the cups client ...otherwise no printing can take place from you linux pc
[05:31] <draik> Ok
[05:31] <draik> I got the source
[05:31] <draik> How do I install the source?
[05:31] <draik> Do I just "sudo ./makefile"?
[05:32] <krokoach> BluesKaj: do you mean I need to setup this "lisa, reslisa and ioslaves"
[05:32] <TeraDyne> !source
[05:32] <ubotu> You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[05:32] <TeraDyne> !compile
[05:32] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:32] <TeraDyne> the second one.
[05:32] <BluesKaj> ok , krokoach , install asamb aclient called smb4k
[05:32] <krokoach> brb goona get a Starbuck frapp
[05:32] <krokoach> Mocha
[05:32] <K-Ryan> Anyone? =(
[05:32] <BluesKaj> samba client
[05:32] <klobster> get me one too
[05:33] <klobster> K-Ryan: what's up?
[05:33] <krokoach> k
[05:33] <K-Ryan> "Anyone know how I can check what programs are using my sound device?"
[05:35] <ssnyde27> hello all, does anyone here use beryl with kde?
[05:35] <BluesKaj> well, i'm getting pretty tired .... krokoach , just install the samba client , then run the printer wizard again , like before and it should work...sorry but need to sleep now
[05:35] <klobster> hrm...
[05:35] <K-Ryan> Most of us do ssnyde27
[05:35] <K-Ryan> You might want to ask around in #ubuntu-effects
[05:36] <ssnyde27> i'll try that
[05:36] <ssnyde27> my issue is that when i launch beryl manager it changes my desktop background and icons to gnome ones, do you happen to know anything about that?
[05:37] <K-Ryan> That's strange
[05:37] <K-Ryan> Did you upgrade from Ubuntu to Kubuntu
[05:37] <K-Ryan> Or vice versa
[05:37] <K-Ryan> And ran KDE
[05:37] <ssnyde27> its hard to recall, i believe i started with kubuntu
[05:37] <K-Ryan> Hrmm
[05:37] <ssnyde27> actually im sure of it
[05:37] <K-Ryan> You'd have a better chance in #ubuntu-effects
[05:38] <ssnyde27> ok, thanks!
[05:38] <K-Ryan> That sounds like a weird problem
[05:38] <K-Ryan> Good luck!
[05:38] <draik> TeraDyne: How did you compile the source? I can't seem to do anything. I keep getting "Permission Denied". Even with sudo
[05:38] <TeraDyne> draik: I didn't. Like I said, I use mine like a thumbdrive.
[05:38] <draik> Sorry
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[05:41] <jmatti55> Hey guys I just loaded kubuntu on to an older machine. It seems to work fine however when i try to play video the picture is a little slow. Are there any little tweaks to get just a litle bit more efficency out of the system to push it over the edge so I can play video normally?
[05:42] <TeraDyne> jmatti55: What do you mean by "older machine"?
[05:43] <jmatti55> 2002
[05:43] <K-Ryan> jmatti55: Fluxbox
[05:43] <jmatti55> laptop
[05:43] <nixternal> hrmm, I have an older machine than that and I don't have any issues
[05:43] <K-Ryan> Or go all the way with Fluxbuntu
[05:43] <TeraDyne> jmatti55: I mean, what are the specs?
[05:43] <K-Ryan> !fluxbox
[05:43] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[05:43] <jmatti55> one second
[05:44] <K-Ryan> !fluxbuntu
[05:44] <ubotu> fluxbuntu is a LPAE-standard compliant, Ubuntu-based derivative that maintains the goal of running on a wide range of mobile devices and computers (low-end & high-end). It is lightweight, swift and efficient. | Support Channel: #fluxbuntu on freenode | Homepage: http://fluxbuntu.org/
[05:44] <K-Ryan> =)
[05:44] <jmatti55> I forget what they were is there a way to check that from within kde
[05:44] <jmatti55> ?
[05:44] <K-Ryan> You can check in system settings
[05:45] <jmatti55> where in the system settings?
[05:46] <K-Ryan> Ermm, not sure.
[05:46] <K-Ryan> But I know one of the options on the left show your specs.
[05:49] <dr_willis>  LPAE-standard ? what the heck is that...
[05:49] <dr_willis> !find fluxbuntu-desktop
[05:49] <K-Ryan> Dunno
[05:49] <ubotu> Package/file fluxbuntu-desktop does not exist in feisty
[05:49] <K-Ryan> dr_willis: Currently there is only a Dapper install
[05:50] <dr_willis> Bah!
[05:50] <dr_willis> :)
[05:50] <K-Ryan> There were delays and stuff with Feisty and it never made it out and at this point it would be pointless to have Gutsy delayed to put out Feisty.
[05:50] <TeraDyne> fluxbox + fbpager + fbdesk + fluxconf = fluxbox for me
[05:50] <dr_willis> I want a Windowbuuntu also for Windowmaker. :)
[05:50] <K-Ryan> So they're skipping Feisty and going straight for Gutsy.
[05:50] <K-Ryan> I can't wait 'till it gets out.
[05:50] <jmatti55> it's a laptop ille try googling it and see what the manufacturer specs were
[05:51] <K-Ryan> The only thing is Canonical refuses to let it be one of the normal things, like Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and Edubuntu.
[05:51] <dr_willis> gee . seems like they could just make a fluxubntu metapackage. :)
[05:51] <K-Ryan> dr_willis: It's not just fluxbox slapped onto Ubuntu
[05:52] <dr_willis> Everything else seems to work that way. :)
[05:52] <dr_willis> I want a XXXbuntu with xxx themes and icon packs and wallpaper! :0
[05:52] <K-Ryan> If you see Xubuntu as Ubuntu with Xfce, Kubuntu as Ubuntu with KDE, then I don't mind Fluxbuntu being seen as Ubuntu with Fluxbox.
[05:52] <K-Ryan> But it's actually more than that.
[05:53] <dr_willis> Given that i normally install ubuntu (or kubuntu) then install the other desktops also
[05:53] <dr_willis> I get "Lots-of-stuffubuntu"
[05:54] <dr_willis> Getting where it seems to be a "ubuntu-variant of the week' at times.
[05:56] <jmatti55> the stuff im finding on line seem totally wrong, earlier today before i put kubuntu on it i think windows said it had 400 mhz and 90 mb of ram
[05:57] <krokoach> in which scenario is ZeroConf useful?
[05:57] <dr_willis> krokoach,  ive never noticed it used. :) heh
[05:57] <TeraDyne> 90 MB of RAM? You'll want something like fluxbox or WindowMaker on that thing, not KDE.
[05:58] <dr_willis> I think in the future its to be useable to find media-servers and other services..
[05:58] <krokoach> dr_willis: oh, LOL they implemented something that is not yet implemented?
[05:58] <dr_willis> Ive not seen it doing anything.. yet. :)
[05:58] <KrAmMeR> i am having trouble playing .mp4 video
[05:58] <dr_willis> but its one of those  vague areas. heh
[05:58] <jmatti55> it actually runs pretty fast it's just the video that causes the trouble
[06:00] <KrAmMeR> has anyone gotten .mp4 video to work in kaffine?
[06:01] <KrAmMeR> it crashes when i try to play it
[06:02] <krokoach> KrAmMeR: donwload all the codecs
[06:02] <jmatti55> sorry the processor is actually 900 mhz
[06:03] <KrAmMeR> yeah i've downloaded all the ones i could
[06:03] <KrAmMeR> looked them all up
[06:04] <KrAmMeR> and i tried a couple different players too, mplayer, kmplayer, movie player, xine
[06:04] <krokoach> KrAmMeR: maybe your movie is broked
[06:04] <krokoach> borked
[06:05] <KrAmMeR> it could be...
[06:05] <KrAmMeR> but i can get sound to play in mplayer
[06:05] <KrAmMeR> just no video
[06:05] <Dunkelschub> any suggestions? I'm installing kubuntu on a laptop and it starts running through the stuff, then the monitor goes black and nothing happens
[06:06] <jmatti55> to the guy wanting to play .m4v if you don't mind switching to a differnt player try VLC just use apt to get it
[06:07] <KrAmMeR> its mp4
[06:07] <KrAmMeR> but i'll try that
[06:07] <jmatti55> yeah my bad but it should still play it
[06:09] <Kr4t05> Hrm...
[06:09] <Kr4t05> That's strange.
[06:09] <Kr4t05> All of a sudden, I can't change my desktop background.
[06:09] <makuseru> where do i place fonts?
[06:09] <Kr4t05> makuseru: Use the System Settings dialogto install fonts.
[06:09] <makuseru> wheres that at?
[06:10] <KrAmMeR> that works!!!
[06:10] <KrAmMeR> yes!
[06:10] <Kr4t05> KMenu -> System Settings
[06:10] <makuseru> i knew that
[06:10] <Biovore> control panel thing..
[06:10] <makuseru> i mean fonts
[06:10] <KrAmMeR> thanks jmatti
[06:10] <Biovore> kdesu kcontrol
[06:10] <Kr4t05> makuseru:  -> Appearance -> Font Installer
[06:10] <makuseru> hmm, never knew that was there
[06:11] <Kr4t05> makuseru: Wait for me to finish, next time. :P
[06:11] <makuseru> shoulda done it all in one post =P
[06:11] <Kr4t05> Alright... I think I need to restart my session here...
[06:11] <Kr4t05> For some reason, I can't change my wallpaper.
[06:12] <Dunkelschub> When trying to install Kubuntu I get "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw not available or load failed" and then the screen goes blank. Suggestions?
[06:13] <Kr4t05> And another thing that annoys me. ><
[06:13] <Biovore> hmm well bcm43xx is a wifi device.. (not nativily supported on linux by the way)
[06:13] <Biovore> why its going blank.. probably some othere problem..
[06:14] <SpoonThief> Hey everyone
[06:14] <Kr4t05> Whenever I log in, the kicker will wait until all of my tray icons are up, then it will crash, dumping the tray and making me lose those apps. They're still running, but invisible. ><
[06:14] <jmatti55> Is there a way for me to install fluxbox without burning a live cd and completely changing out the os or can i just use apt-get?
[06:14] <Biovore> apt-get install fluxbox
[06:14] <Kr4t05> jmatti55: Use apt-get
[06:14] <jmatti55> thanks
[06:14] <Dunkelschub> is there some way to have it do a text only installation?
[06:14] <SpoonThief> This is probably going to be a really newbish question, but I am a newb, so it does make sense. Is there any way to install new login screens?
[06:15] <Biovore> Dunkelschub: yes.. the alternate install has the option
[06:15] <Dunkelschub> kk, so I gotta grab the other iso
[06:15] <Dunkelschub> 3rd times the charm I suppose
[06:15] <Biovore> rgr
[06:16] <Dunkelschub> and is there any difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu other than the default packages and gui?
[06:16] <Biovore> yup.. thats basicly the differance..
[06:16] <Biovore> you can install ubuntu and install kde by install kubuntu-desktop
[06:20] <Kr4t05> This is weird.
[06:20] <Kr4t05> The wallpaper will not change.
[06:21] <Kr4t05> And... cue the netsplit. ><
[06:24] <sven_oostenbrink> Hi there, I just installed kubuntu, and X put my monitor on 1280x1024, but only on 50Hz, which drives me crazy.. I know my monitor can go up to 65Hz on that resolution, but how do I have to configure the xorg.conf so that I can have that frequency?
[06:25] <Kr4t05> sven_oostenbrink: Look the Section "Monitor"
[06:25] <Kr4t05> The setting should be somewhere there.
[06:25] <sven_oostenbrink> Kr4t05, looking.. there is nothing about frequencies..
[06:25] <Kr4t05> VertRefresh isn't there?
[06:26] <sven_oostenbrink> Kr4t05, nope.. it says Identifier      "SyncMaster" and Option          "DPMS"
[06:26] <Kr4t05> Either HorizSync or VertRefresh... Can't remember which. :S
[06:26] <Kr4t05> What does SyncMaster read?
[06:26] <sven_oostenbrink> Kr4t05, There is a BIG difference between the two, Id better by sure. :)
[06:27] <sven_oostenbrink> Kr4t05, its Identifier "SyncMaster"
[06:27] <Kr4t05> Oh...
[06:27] <Kr4t05> Hrm...
[06:27] <Kr4t05> Okay... I think I need to hand this one off to someone else... Out of my league... And, I don't want to be the one responsible for frying your monitor. ;)
[06:28] <sven_oostenbrink> Kr4t05, Heheheh... well, you got me there I think.. with those keywords, google becomes the needed expert..
[06:31] <Kr4t05> I just wish I knew why the desktop wallpaper refuses to change.
[06:32] <sven_oostenbrink> Kr4t05, er.. that sounds weird.. why would it not want to change?
[06:34] <Kr4t05> sven_oostenbrink: Not a clue... I had beryl running... Then turned it off.
[06:34] <Kr4t05> I've tried restarting X, using kdesu, everything.
[06:35] <Kr4t05> The Desktop Settings dialog acts like it's been changed, but the wallpaper itself doesn't.
[06:35] <outer> Can you boot linux (kubuntu and ubuntu in particular) from an external hardrive?
[06:37] <Kr4t05> outer: If that harddisk has GRUB installed on it, and the computer in question can boot from a USB device, sure.
[06:37] <intelikey> i have a profain question,,, or is that profound... anyway,  is it normal for a drive to take a long time formatting ?
[06:38] <Kr4t05> intelikey: Depends on the size and type.
[06:38] <intelikey> ide small
[06:38] <Kr4t05> A PATA/IDE drive larger than about 40GB could take a good while.
[06:38] <Kr4t05> intelikey: How long are we talking?
[06:38] <Kr4t05> Minutes? Hours?
[06:38] <intelikey> 15 minutes  4 gig
[06:38] <Kr4t05> Hrm...
[06:38] <outer> Depends on what you're doing too I think, if you're installing xp and formatting it takes forever but if you're using partition magic it'll take seconds.
[06:39] <Kr4t05> What RPM
[06:39] <Kr4t05> 7200RPM?
[06:39] <Kr4t05> If it's a regular desktop HDD, I'd bet it's about that fast.
[06:40] <intelikey> probably 20 rpm.   very slow.
[06:40] <intelikey> :)
[06:40] <Kr4t05> 20?
[06:40] <Kr4t05> Dinosaur?
[06:40] <intelikey> heh  well maybe more than 20.   but it's not listed on the sticker anywhere
[06:41] <K-Ryan> 20 rotations per minute?
[06:41] <Kr4t05> Well, if it's an older drive.
[06:41] <outer> I was asking about linux on the hardrive because I'm not quite ready to make it my "primary" os but I would still like to use it. Do you know any good methods in particular for install grub on an external hardrive?
[06:41] <K-Ryan> That's 3 seconds for a rotation!
[06:41] <Kr4t05> outer: Hrm... Wait a second.... Why not just dual-boot?
[06:42] <outer> Well my laptop hardrive isn't that big and I've had duel-boot issues in the past and don't want to deal with a possible re-format again.
[06:42] <intelikey> outer you can put linux on an extended partition and grub/lilo can boot both os's
[06:42] <hitmanWilly> outer: you can set up grub on the mbr of the main hdd to boot nix from the external
[06:42] <hitmanWilly> or win from the main
[06:43] <Kr4t05> outer: I expected that you wanted to make a "mobile" installation that could be migrated between systems.
[06:43] <intelikey> K-Ryan you think i was over rating it.  maybe 10 or 15 rpm  ?     :)))
[06:43] <Kr4t05> But, what hitmanWilly suggests is good, too. :)
[06:43] <K-Ryan> =P
[06:43] <hitmanWilly> grub can boot from usb drives :)
[06:43] <outer> Well not really, I basically want a lay-away linux to play with until I feel I can use it more often.
[06:44] <intelikey> hitmanWilly as long as the bios can boot the usb device it can
[06:44] <Kr4t05> outer: Yeah, that works.
[06:44] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: it should be able to, if its a newer lappy
[06:44] <outer> The problem for me is Linux doesn't support most of my beloved software, even on wine.
[06:44] <intelikey> i agree it should.   just know that some can't so i mentioned it.
[06:44] <outer> But I love the OS itself, so it's a bit of a tradeoff.
[06:44] <Kr4t05> outer: You *might* be able to just use the Install CD, and manually partition it to the USB drive.
[06:45] <jmatti55> If your in the terminal is there a way to cd into a directory with a spave in it's name? like cd stuff folder or do you need to rename it to stuffolder?
[06:45] <Kr4t05> jmatti55: cd This\ Directory
[06:45] <Kr4t05> OR
[06:45] <Kr4t05> cd "This Directory"
[06:45] <hitmanWilly> jmatti55: \ is the escape char for a space
[06:45] <jmatti55> "This Directory"
[06:45] <jmatti55> ah, thanks
[06:46] <intelikey> both work   blah\ blah   'blah blah'   "blah blah"
[06:46] <sven_oostenbrink> How can I become root user in kubuntu?
[06:46] <hitmanWilly> jmatti55: this issue is why most nix files like to use _ vice a space :P
[06:46] <intelikey> simplest way is the tab key
[06:46] <Kr4t05> jmatti55: If you start typing a command or directory in Konsole, you can press TAB to autocomplete it. (Or give a list of matches.)
[06:47] <Kr4t05> !sudo sven_oostenbrink
[06:47] <intelikey> sven_oostenbrink sudo -i
[06:47] <jmatti55> It keeps saying that the directroy or file dose not exist
[06:47] <kboodu> sudo su -
[06:47] <kboodu> That will make you root on the local system.
[06:47] <Kr4t05> Oops... ><
[06:47] <intelikey> jmatti55 use the tab key.    cd blah[tab] 
[06:48] <intelikey> jmatti55 and you can use   ls   to see what is actually there.
[06:48] <jmatti55> ok the dab key thing did it thanks
[06:48] <jmatti55> tab
[06:48] <nullkill> or sudo -s
[06:48] <sven_oostenbrink> okay, thanks!
[06:48] <outer> I'll try manual installation to put in on my hardrive, Thanks for the suggestions.
[06:49] <intelikey> what's that hard drive tuning app ?
[06:49] <outer> One last thing, anyone heard any news of Adobe CS3 suite maybe coming to Wine any time soon?
[06:51] <kboodu> Is there anyone on-line who can help me troubleshoot a sound issue with kdetv (or other TV app)?
[06:52] <klobster> intelikey: hdparm
[06:53] <klobster> intelikey: I don't think it works for ram
[06:53] <sven_oostenbrink> argh! Could anybody give me one easy simple line for in sudo that I can just do "sudo command" without having to give my friggin password every time? Yes, I googled for it and the sudo config file is a nightmare.. I have %admin All - (ALL) ALL, I suppose that line is for me but.. How do I modify it to NOT ask me for a password?
[06:54] <klobster> try doing sudo su
[06:54] <klobster> it will ask for a password to login, and then leave the shell open
[06:55] <sven_oostenbrink> klobster, Well, I really just want to have a sudo command without password.. Its save enough for me, and I dont want an open root shell
[06:56] <klobster> you could make a script that has your password in it, but that isn't safe
[06:56] <sven_oostenbrink> Its just that that sudo file is so over complex..
[06:57] <kboodu> You want to add the following to the sudoers file:
[06:57] <sven_oostenbrink> klobster, well, I should be able to simply modify the /etc/sudoers file to not ask ONLY me for a password.. not?
[06:57] <Fragility> Hey, could someone please help me install opera, I really havnt got down how to install programs on Kubuntu if not through the add/remove programs or apt-get
[06:57] <Fragility> I downloaded it and it opens automatically as a .deb, should I download the tarball?
[06:58] <kboodu> klbobster  "hostname" = NOPASSWD: full/path/command
[06:58] <kboodu> replace "hostname" with the local system name
[06:58] <kboodu> Try man sudo and man sudoers / man visudo for more help.
[06:58] <kboodu> Use visudo to edit the sudoers file.
[06:59] <kboodu> NOTE: This could result in significant vulnerabilities in your system!
[06:59] <klobster> heh a google of disable password sudoers turns up that exact instruction IN THE VERY FIRST HIT
[06:59] <Mr_Sonoma> i have a set of wireless usb sticks, i want to be able to put one in this computer and share the internet connection with another computer i am working on. is there a way to achieve this? a wiki to follow??? suguestions
[07:00] <intelikey> klobster ram ?
[07:01] <sven_oostenbrink> klobster, well I checked the first entry, but its all but simple
[07:01] <Mr_Sonoma> i guess i should state that the dsl modum is connected directly to a wired nic the usb stick would be the second network device on this system.
[07:01] <klobster> intelikey: meaning I am not sure hdparm will work for diskless systems
[07:01] <intelikey> klobster this is not dsikless
[07:02] <klobster> intelikey: new system?
[07:02] <intelikey> why would i be wanting to tune an hd i didn't have ?    i have several boxes
[07:02] <intelikey> this one with a 4g ide   but it's slow.
[07:04] <sven_oostenbrink> klobster, Finally! There we go: admin ALL = NOPASSWD: ALL
[07:04] <kboodu> "admin ALL = NOPASSWD: ALL" is a dangerous command as anyone in the "admin" group will have full access to all commands.
[07:05] <klobster> intelikey: not sure.  you are full of mystery and tricks
[07:05] <intelikey> oooo yuch       IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit)   <<< theres part of it i guess
[07:05] <Kr4t05> Does anyone have any clue what would make my desktop wallpaper lock up?
[07:06] <intelikey>  using_dma    =  0 (off)
[07:06] <klobster> sven_oostenbrink: nice
[07:06] <Kr4t05> I do Right Click -> Configure Desktop -> Picture -> <Picture I Want to Use> -> Apply
[07:06] <Kr4t05> The dialogue acts like it worked.
[07:06] <hitmanWilly> kboodu: with sudo they basically do anyway...
[07:06] <Kr4t05> But, it doesn't update.
[07:06] <Biovore> Kr4t05: it should work..
[07:07] <Kr4t05> Biovore: That's why I'm asking in here.
[07:07] <Kr4t05> Typically, when something should work, but doesn't, that is when the user asks for help.
[07:07] <Kr4t05> Thanks for playing.
[07:07] <yuan> hi
[07:09] <Kr4t05> And, once again, the channel mysteriously goes dead...
[07:09] <Kr4t05> Fine.
[07:09] <Kr4t05> rm -rf ~/.kde
[07:09] <Kr4t05> Happy now?
[07:11] <kboodu> privmsg hitmanwilly Sorry that was supposed to be private....It's been too long since I've IRCd.
[07:12] <hitmanWilly> kboodu: its /msg btw :)
[07:12] <Biovore> hehe
[07:13] <yuan> hello everybody,i'm yuan,i want to ask some questions,can anybody help me?
[07:13] <intelikey> i guess the drive doesn't do dma ....    HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
[07:13] <hitmanWilly> !ask | yuan
[07:13] <ubotu> yuan: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:14] <yuan> ok,thanks
[07:14] <K-Ryan> What would you guys think if I made a script resembling Ubotu? Something you can download, and once you run it, it asks for a topic. You enter in a topic and if the entered topic matches a topic the script has help on, it displays a link to where you can get help for that topic.
[07:14] <K-Ryan> Kind of like Ubotu, but one you don't need to be in the IRC for.
[07:14] <yuan> I've got some problems here when i try to install the scim-1.4.7.tar.gz package and it happens ofen when i do some installation just like libtool1.4_1.4.3-21.tar.gz.
[07:15] <hitmanWilly> yuan: what problems?
[07:15] <yuan> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[07:15] <intelikey> K-Ryan why not just have it run  /usr/bin/x-www-browser $URL
[07:15] <hitmanWilly> yuan: apt-get build-essential
[07:15] <yuan> willy, how to do it?
[07:16] <K-Ryan> intelikey: Because I'm only just learning python =)
[07:16] <K-Ryan> Started last night and haven't gotten too far.
[07:16] <hitmanWilly> yuan: in terminal sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:16] <intelikey> K-Ryan oh  :)
[07:16] <K-Ryan> So right now I'm focusing on the basics, and figured I could write something like that.
[07:16] <K-Ryan> I actually have the code setup for that except right now it's designed for a different purpose.
[07:16] <intelikey> ok sounds like that would be a good learning project for you.
[07:16] <yuan> thanks,but can u explain the problem?
[07:17] <K-Ryan> And something that would be semi-beneficial to the community.
[07:17] <hitmanWilly> yuan: gcc (the C compiler) isn't installed by default on ubuntu systems
[07:17] <yuan> 
[07:17] <hitmanWilly> yuan: however, it is part of the build-essential pkg
[07:17] <K-Ryan> How would I make it into an executable file though? So you wouldn't have to type in python /path/script.py
[07:17] <intelikey> yuan    sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:17] <K-Ryan> If you happened to know...
[07:18] <yuan> thanks,that's better for comprehend the problem
[07:18] <intelikey> K-Ryan first line    #!/usr/bin/python  <-switches if needed>
[07:19] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: not necessary if called with the python cmd :)
[07:19] <intelikey> K-Ryan and chmod 755 filename   so it's executable
[07:19] <intelikey> hitmanWilly read the Q
[07:19] <K-Ryan> I want it to be able to be run without the python cmd ;)
[07:19] <yuan> Q is what?
[07:19] <hitmanWilly> oh, really should do that more often...
[07:19] <K-Ryan> =)
[07:19] <intelikey> :)
[07:20] <K-Ryan> But # would comment the line out
[07:20] <K-Ryan> Remove the #?
[07:20] <K-Ryan> I wasn't lying when I said I was new to this
[07:20] <K-Ryan> =)
[07:20] <intelikey> not the first line.    test this in a terminal.    echo "#!/bin/sh"
[07:20] <yuan> me to
[07:21] <hitmanWilly> K-Ryan: normally, but that's the shebang, its a special type of comment that the system actually reads, to find out which interperter to run the script through
[07:21] <K-Ryan> Oooh, neato
[07:21] <intelikey> or better yet         echo "#!/usr/bin/yes"
[07:21] <K-Ryan> intelikey: event not found
[07:21] <K-Ryan> To both
[07:22] <intelikey> exactly  so what happened ?    if the shell didn't try to start a subshell
[07:22] <K-Ryan> Hold on, let me just try something...
[07:22] <intelikey> you mean my sujestion ?      :)
[07:22] <K-Ryan> No I did that
[07:23] <kboodu> #! is a "magic" identifies that says to the operating system this is a "program"
[07:23] <intelikey> K-Ryan in short.   do not remove the #
[07:23] <K-Ryan> I didn't
[07:23] <kboodu> The remainder of the line "/usr/bin/sh" identifies the interpreter the "program" needs
[07:23] <K-Ryan> So I make the file executable and what else?
[07:23] <Biovore> ./mypythonscript.py
[07:23] <K-Ryan> Nice =)
[07:24] <kboodu> Commonly #! /bin/bash or #! /usr/bin/perl
[07:24] <K-Ryan> Thanks intelikey, kboodu, and Biovore
[07:24] <K-Ryan> hitmanWilly: You too
[07:24] <intelikey> kboodu   #!/usr/bin/python     in his case.
[07:24] <kboodu> For python, that would be correct.
[07:24] <hitmanWilly> K-Ryan: the originating script doesn't even require the .py extension, but if it calls any other files, they have to have it
[07:24] <K-Ryan> It doesn't
[07:25] <K-Ryan> So ./script it is
[07:25] <kboodu> It is a good idea to include the extension from a human readable point of view, tho.
[07:25] <K-Ryan> Well I mean with my script it's optional.
[07:25] <intelikey> K-Ryan the file name could even be #  or  :   hehhe  anything you like
[07:25] <K-Ryan> Now, to make entire script out of what Ubotu knows links to...
[07:25] <kboodu> That is correct K-Ryan
[07:25] <K-Ryan> !ubotu
[07:25] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:26] <kboodu> It's not a "good" idea to use specail cahracters in file names however.  Usually only spaces, and periods and underscores are the sysmbols to use.
[07:26] <tino_> #ubuntu-es
[07:26] <K-Ryan> Wow this is going to be a project.
[07:26] <intelikey> kboodu i wasn't sujesting it, just mentioning that it's possable
[07:27] <K-Ryan> Yeah I would literally be writing Ubotu to a file.
[07:27] <klobster> K-Ryan: no doubt.  I'm doing a similar thing in bash (well not an ubotu script, a changelog for system files) and it gets big fast.
[07:28] <K-Ryan> Sounds like it will keep me busy =)
[07:28] <intelikey> no. just it's infonodes   but  get the list from the website and put in a data file and parse it from your script.
[07:28] <K-Ryan> What?
[07:29] <intelikey> the website ^ has all the infonodes listed.   get that and save it to a data file,  then have your script parse it for the !command
[07:29] <K-Ryan> script parsing?
[07:29] <K-Ryan> What and how?
[07:29] <klobster> K-Ryan: II keep getting hung up on little things; I have 125 lines of code and I havent yet written one that is the actual feature; recording the changes from a system file
[07:30] <K-Ryan> klobster: I haven't topped 15 lines yet so I didn't have to worry about that =P
[07:30] <klobster> K-Ryan: just wait
[07:31] <K-Ryan> I don't suppose you would know how to setup something like.
[07:31] <klobster> K-Ryan: think help file
[07:31] <K-Ryan> If x == a or b or c
[07:31] <K-Ryan> print D
[07:31] <K-Ryan> and more importantly, how would I get a word to be able to be put in?
[07:32] <intelikey> i don't sell snake oil so i can't really help you with python   but a shell script could do it easily enough.    grep -q $var ~/.ubotu-data && do something if it's there.
[07:32] <K-Ryan> int(raw_input) only works with numbers
[07:32] <hitmanWilly> K-Ryan: this is more for #python :)
[07:32] <K-Ryan> Right
[07:32] <K-Ryan> *click*
[07:33] <intelikey> heh then it might even be the wrong language for what you are doing...
[07:33] <klobster> http://bash.org/?400459
[07:33] <K-Ryan> Best? Maybe not. Wrong? Nah
[07:33] <K-Ryan> klobster: Nice find ;)
[07:34] <intelikey> fair enough.
[07:34] <klobster> one of my favs
[07:34] <kboodu> There are also quite a few good reference manuals (pdf and html) available from tldp
[07:34] <kboodu> The Linux Documentation Project (TLDP) - http://www.tldp.org
[07:35] <intelikey> !diveintopython
[07:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about diveintopython - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:35] <intelikey> !info diveintopython
[07:35] <ubotu> diveintopython: free Python book for experienced programmers. In component main, is optional. Version 5.4-2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 340 kB, installed size 4220 kB
[07:35] <klobster> free Python book for experienced programmers.
[07:35] <intelikey> does rute cover python ?
[07:36] <kboodu> no - rute doesn't cover python
[07:36] <intelikey> hmmm one of the few things left out....
[07:38] <intelikey> system looks hung at Creating journal (32768 blocks):
[07:38] <jtong> hi all
[07:38] <intelikey>   obviously it wasn't...
[07:39] <intelikey> took it that long just to write the journal file for a 4g fs
[07:42] <klobster> is there an updated rute in hardcover form? (I saw an xfree86 chapter)
[07:43] <intelikey> xfree86 is not dead is it ?
[07:43] <intelikey> the fork wasn't very long ago...
[07:44] <alex87> my SD card won't mount, "can't read superblock", how do i fix it?
[07:45] <intelikey> is it ext# file system ?
[07:45] <alex87> intelikey: its a fat filesystem, i'm happy to reformat it, but that hasn't helped so far
[07:45] <intelikey> alex87 then you are not hitting the correct device node
[07:46] <alex87> intelikey: ah ok, i've been trying to wipe the partition table with fdisk, and using mkfs to no luck
[07:46] <intelikey> alex87 the error message tells us that mount didn't see any file system and assumed ext
[07:46] <jtong> anyone know how i can check if a driver is missing?
[07:46] <alex87> intelikey: ohhh, so should i add it to fstab?
[07:47] <intelikey> not until you find what device node it is.    "and probably not then"
[07:47] <intelikey> there is one other possability.   modprobe    driver for the device may need inserting.
[07:48] <alex87> intelikey: this is all being done through my mobile, and the old card mounts perfectly if that helps
[07:48] <alex87> intelikey: what should i do?
[07:48] <intelikey> in short.  the mount error is simply telling you that there is no file system at the address you specified.    so from that point on.   i'll let someone with an sd card help you.
[07:49] <K-Ryan> !sd
[07:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:49] <mike__> Greets, everyone...
[07:49] <K-Ryan> !sdcard
[07:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sdcard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:49] <K-Ryan> Guess not =/
[07:49] <K-Ryan> Hi there mike__
[07:49] <alex87> intelikey: oh ok, thanks for your help, any suggestions though?
[07:50] <Fragility> does anyone here have linuxbios on their computer?
[07:50] <Mr_Sonoma> i am trying to share a internet connection with a laptop  i have 2 wireless usb sticks the dsl modum is connected to a NIC on the desktop computer i would like to be able to put one usb wireless network stick on this desktop and the other on the laptop and share the connection. suggestions on how to achieve this or where to look?
[07:50] <intelikey> !patience | alex87 maybe a little...
[07:50] <ubotu> alex87 maybe a little...: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:50] <mike__> I'm trying to install flashplugin-nonfree, but I keep getting this - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29435/ - Any ideas?
[07:52] <jtong> can someone help me? i have a problem connecting my usb mouse
[07:52] <raylu> !question
[07:52] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:52] <hitmanWilly> jtong: what's the issue?
[07:52] <intelikey> mike__ doesn't the instructions cover the rest of the process ?
[07:53] <intelikey> !flash
[07:53] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[07:53] <klobster> so, what is the deal with the cyrillic font?
[07:53] <jtong> hitmanWilly: when i plug in my usb kb/mouse it's not recognized correctly
[07:53] <jtong> only my kb works
[07:53] <intelikey> mike__ i think you just copy the .so file to the correct dir   or something
[07:54] <hitmanWilly> jtong: is the mouse connected seperately or built into the keyboard?
[07:54] <mike__> intelikey: Sorry - I usually get it from Trevino's repository and it "just works" - I'm trying to stick to stuff from the official repos on this install as it's gonna be used by guests and I'm aiming for stability.
[07:54] <Mr_Sonoma> !networking
[07:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about networking - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:54] <jtong> mouse and kb both share a single usb receiver
[07:54] <jtong> i got it working on my laptop but not my desktop
[07:55] <hitmanWilly> jtong: oh, wireless, ok, not sure on that one...
[07:55] <hitmanWilly> jtong: im guessing the system sees the keyboard on the usb port and stops looking after that
[07:56] <intelikey> mike__ k.   i don't do flash but i think you need to look in your   install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz    file and get the instructions from there.
[07:56] <jtong> hitmanWilly: exactly
[07:56] <jtong> and it's not detecting the right driver i think
[07:56] <mike__> Got cha. Thanks.
[07:56] <jtong> hitmanWilly: because i got it working on my laptop with both mouse and kb detected
[07:56] <hitmanWilly> jtong: you MAY be able to set that up under kcontrol
[07:57] <raylu> try "aptitude search flashpl
[07:57] <raylu> "
[07:57] <hitmanWilly> jtong: whats your laptop running for an OS?
[07:58] <hitmanWilly> jtong: same thing?
[07:58] <jtong> kubuntu 6.06
[07:58] <intelikey> raylu he's already got it. downloaded just needs to copy the .so file.
[07:59] <hitmanWilly> jtong: im really not sure on this one other than see if you can set up the correct drivers
[07:59] <tino_> #ubunto-es
[07:59] <jtong> hitmanWilly: ok, can you tell me how i check the drivers because i'm sure that's the problem
[08:00] <jtong> i see usb receiver when i cat /proc/bus/input/devices on my kubuntu 6.06
[08:01] <jtong> but i only see AT Translated Set 2 keyboard when i cat /proc/bus/input/devices on my desktop ubuntu 6.10
[08:02] <mike__> raylu: Thanks anyway
[08:02] <raylu> How can I take over a registered nick that hasn't been used in a long time?  Nicks which are considered expired  are not dropped automatically on a regular basis. We do drop them when we notice them and, if you ask a staffer, we'll be happy to manually drop the one you want so that you can re-register it.
[08:02] <raylu> oops.
[08:02] <raylu> T.T
[08:05] <hitmanWilly> jtong: you may be able to compare modprobe -l from both boxes and see if anything jumps out at you
[08:06] <jtong> hitmanWilly: ok i'll do that thanks
[08:06] <intelikey> i may imagrate sda to hda, and use the slow ide disk on the slow p1 diskless boxen...
[08:07] <hitmanWilly> jtong: if you can transfer files between the boxes, >> both outputs to files and diff them
[08:07] <raylu> boxen =\
[08:08] <intelikey> self contained hardware bundles,,
[08:08] <klobster> intelikey: did you ever set up your friend with the router/firewall?
[08:09] <intelikey> that got moved down the list on the priorities, havent gotten to it yet.   it's comming though.  before school resumes.
[08:10] <Mr_Sonoma> does anyone have a good suggestion on a program to decompress a .iso back into the file structure so i could add/remove files from it then burn the new cd/dvd?
[08:11] <intelikey> Mr_Sonoma iso is not compressed
[08:11] <klobster> can't you just mount it and add/delete files?
[08:11] <intelikey> and growiso ?
[08:12] <klobster> sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 *iso* *mountpoint*
[08:12] <Mr_Sonoma> it was my understanding that a .iso was compressed but then i've been wrong before
[08:13] <Mr_Sonoma> ok thanks i will try it =)
[08:13] <intelikey> only if the compression doesn't make it any smaller...  :)
[08:14] <intelikey> and mount decompresses/recompresses it   heh
[08:14] <klobster> heh
[08:14] <intelikey> sorry.
[08:14] <Mr_Sonoma> hehehehe like i said
[08:14] <Mr_Sonoma> i've been wrong before
[08:15] <intelikey> klobster sure. the boot disk image is accessable.   if you mean dirrectly accessing the first sector of the iso image file then   dd could do it but i don't think that's what you want.....
[08:16] <hitmanWilly> so if iso's aren't compressed, a dd should be able to create one effectively then, hmmmm
[08:16] <intelikey> hitmanWilly so i hear
[08:17] <intelikey> test:  dd if=/dev/cdrom of=filename.iso ;mount -o loop filename.iso /media
[08:18] <intelikey> might need root to do part/all of that
[08:18] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: i am aware of proper dd and loop mounting cmds :P
[08:18] <intelikey> wasn't all for your benifit hitman
[08:19] <hitmanWilly> figured as much
[08:19] <klobster> *benefit
[08:19] <intelikey> that too
[08:19] <intelikey> b a d l y
[08:19] <intelikey> :)
[08:20] <raylu> you winz!
[08:20] <raylu> lol!
[08:22] <klobster> ooc, whats the diff between /dev/random and /dev/urandom?
[08:22] <intelikey> actually i can't speek either of my native languages, so i speek a very confusing form of semi-american english
[08:22] <intelikey> s/semi/quazi/
[08:22] <raylu> i speAk
[08:22] <klobster> intelikey: ?? wha?  you no speak your native tongue?
[08:23] <intelikey> klobster no not affectivly
[08:23] <intelikey> klobster urandom will churn out trash rather than waiting on entropy
[08:23] <klobster> *speaks the good english -_^
[08:23] <hitmanWilly> lol
[08:24] <klobster> intelikey: what is your native? were you born|raised there?
[08:24] <intelikey> come lets not get personal..
[08:25] <tallia1> hello everybody
[08:25] <raylu> !hi
[08:25] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[08:25] <tallia1> security.ubuntu.com is down..... my apt updates are not working :(
[08:26] <raylu> o.0...it was up an hour ago
[08:26] <klobster> sorry intelikey
[08:26] <klobster> !offtopic
[08:26] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[08:27] <tino_> #guadalinex-es
[08:29] <vVryk> Hey...
[08:29] <vVryk> Hello?
[08:29] <hitmanWilly> howdy
[08:30] <vVryk> I need some help with Kubuntu...
[08:30] <TrUsT> hxahaxhxa
[08:30] <hitmanWilly> !ask | vVryk
[08:30] <ubotu> vVryk: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:32] <vVryk> I have a live CD, and I had to start it in safe mode. It loaded up all fine, I installed it, restarted my PC, but it wouldn't load up, it came with an error in the DOS that said this:
[08:32] <vVryk> udevd - event [1937] : run_program:'/5bin/modprobe' Abnormal exit
[08:32] <vVryk> 
[08:32] <vVryk>  Busybox v. 1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.2-3ubuntu3) Built-in Shell (ash)
[08:32] <vVryk> 
[08:32] <vVryk>  Enter 'help' for a list of built in commands
[08:32] <vVryk> 
[08:32] <vVryk>  /bin/Sh: can't access tty; job control turned off (initramfs)
[08:33] <vVryk> So, I popped the CD back in, and it started, I tried to re-do the intsalation, it finished, and the same thing came up... Now when I press the install button, it says loading app. then nothing happens at all.
[08:33] <vVryk> *installation
[08:34] <vVryk> Anyone know what to do?
[08:35] <intelikey> vVryk the busybox shell is running within the initramfs    the reason you are getting that is because it's not mounting the root file system,   the modprobe error will be the cause that it can't mount it.  the driver for the fs or for the device it's on is not getting inserted into the kernel propperly.
[08:36] <vVryk> Yeah, I'm computer codely retarded, so, something that I can understand?
[08:36] <intelikey> vVryk as to "what to do"  at that point you either need a masters dergee in linux or try a different distro or at least a different version.
[08:37] <vVryk> Okay, what version do you think would be good for a first time user?
[08:38] <intelikey> the LTS version of k/ubuntu might work.
[08:38] <intelikey> if not i'd sujest a different distro.  maybe mandriva or suse
[08:38] <intelikey> possably fedora
[08:38] <intelikey> !lts
[08:38] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[08:39] <vVryk> Okay... I'll take that into mind.
[08:39] <intelikey> LTS is dapper drake  6.06
[08:41] <Mr_Sonoma> Feisty has been a little kinder to me about recognising stuff like kodak didgital camera's automatically than dapper was
[08:42] <intelikey> Mr_Sonoma normally you don't boot the camera tho
[08:43] <hitmanWilly> should be doable
[08:43] <Mr_Sonoma> lol funny, no i mean when you plug the cam to the usb port. dapper wouldnt talk to it, would see the cam and tell what it was but wouldnt download the pics. when i upgraded to fiesty when i plug the cam in it will recognise and download pictures without fuss
[08:43] <intelikey> yeah just wonder what cpu they have...
[08:44] <intelikey> Mr_Sonoma oh sorry, i though you were in referance to vVryk's issue.
[08:45] <hitmanWilly> anyway, i need to get some sleep, later all
[08:45] <Mr_Sonoma> well it was a statement in ref to his last line, was adding something to think about
 Okay, what version do you think would be good for a first time user?
[08:47] <intelikey> Mr_Sonoma but the reason for that was that the version he was trying has failed to make a bootable system three installs now...   and i was assuming fiesty,  or possably edgy,  either way was thinking that maybe dapper would at least boot.
[08:48] <vVryk> Yeah, it's fiesty.
[08:48] <Mr_Sonoma> ok true
[08:48] <vVryk> So, I should get dapper version?
[08:49] <intelikey> i would waste the time and resources trying it.  yes.
[08:49] <intelikey> assuming you aren't on dialup internet
[08:49] <vVryk> What?
[08:49] <vVryk> Nope, Cable.
[08:49] <intelikey> yes try dapper.
[08:51] <vVryk> Okay, I'll work on that tomorrow, it's late, see you all.
[08:51] <wnuqui> hi to all
[08:51] <wnuqui> I am a newbie in linux
[08:51] <intelikey> all is not here right now.  can i help you ?
[08:52] <wnuqui> intelikey: thanks
[08:52] <wnuqui> i install thru adept manager some of my favorite games like chess and scrabble
[08:52] <wnuqui> the install seems to be successful for i see the status to be 'installed'
[08:53] <wnuqui> but i can't find the games in start menu
[08:53] <intelikey> maybe install "menu"
[08:53] <wnuqui> what do you mean -> install "menu"?
[08:53] <Mr_Sonoma> did you "apply changes" in adept?
[08:54] <wnuqui> Mr_Sonoma: yup i "apply changes" in adept
[08:54] <pag> wnuqui, try to start the apps you've installed from konsole  (the command is simply the name of the app in lowercase)
[08:54] <intelikey> yes in the adept manager   install   "menu"    that will give you the full "debian" menu system.   adding many things to the menu.
[08:54] <wnuqui> pag: i tried that but of no success
[08:54] <dromer> hi all, I'm having trouble opening these .tiff's I got from a scanner (under windows), anybody know what to do/try ?
[08:54] <intelikey> if you don't like it you can remove it.
[08:55] <intelikey> dromer open in "kfax"
[08:56] <dromer> intelikey: This version can only handle Fax files
[08:56] <pag> dromer, do you have libtiff (or something like that) installed?
[08:56] <dromer> pag: afaik yes
[08:56] <intelikey> oh good lord tell me they didn't drop .tiff support from kfax, the only app that could handle it...
[08:57] <dromer> when I identify the files (imagemagick) I get: Scan07-07-09 1449.tif TIFF 1653x2338 DirectClass 477kb  identify: Old-style JPEG compression support is not configured. `Scan07-07-09 1449.tif'.
[08:57] <dromer> what I found is I need to recompile libtiff to include these?
[08:58] <intelikey> dromer what version is your kfax ?
[08:59] <dromer> intelikey: KFax: 3.3.6
[08:59] <intelikey> k   ty.
[09:01] <sven_oostenbrink> Hi there, how do I change the default application for a certain file type? I could not find it in the  system settings
[09:02] <pag> sven_oostenbrink, try to look in kcontrol
[09:04] <sven_oostenbrink> pag, Thanks!
[09:04] <pag> np :)
[09:45] <kraut> moin
[09:49] <dromer> anybody here experience with SynCE ?
[09:51] <jaaroo> hello there. Does anybody know if there manual page from section 9 (kernel routines) available for ubuntu? I haven't found them yet.
[09:51] <jaaroo> s/if there manpage/if there are manpages/
[09:55] <yuan> anybody here?
[09:56] <yuan> nobody
[09:56] <pag> !ask | yuan
[09:56] <ubotu> yuan: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:56] <yuan> !!!!!!
[09:57] <yuan> rpm: To install rpm packages on Debian systems, use alien. See README.Debian.
[09:57] <yuan> error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - No such file or directory (2)
[09:57] <yuan> error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
[09:57] <yuan> warning: stardict-quick-eng-eng-2.4.2-2mdk.noarch.rpm: Header V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID 70771ff3
[09:57] <yuan> error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
[09:57] <yuan> what's the problem
[09:57] <yeniklasor> How can I see my CPU temprature?
[09:57] <pag> !rpm | yuan
[09:57] <ubotu> yuan: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[09:58] <yuan> but the package is only in .RPM
[09:58] <pag> !lmsensors | yeniklasor
[09:58] <ubotu> yeniklasor: You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[09:58] <yuan> can we transfert it?
[09:59] <pag> yuan, with alien, yes. But it might cause serious damage to your system :-/
[09:59] <yeniklasor> thanks
[09:59] <pag> yuan, that are you trying to install?
[09:59] <pag> *what
[10:00] <yuan> stardict-quick-eng-eng-2.4.2-2mdk.noarch.rpm
[10:00] <pag> !info stardict | yuan
[10:00] <ubotu> yuan: stardict: International dictionary for GNOME 2. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.8-1 (feisty), package size 226 kB, installed size 708 kB
[10:00] <yuan> it's a dictionary english to english
[10:01] <yuan> not the programme stardict
[10:01] <yuan> i want to add this dictionary to stardict
[10:03] <pag> yuan, where have you downloaded it from?
[10:03] <yuan> http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=stardict-dictionary
[10:07] <pag> yuan, http://stardict.sourceforge.net/Dictionaries.php  here are the instructons (and the downloads) for the .tar.bz2
[10:08] <yuan> thanks
[10:10] <pag> yuan, remember, that you'll need to run the 'mv' command with sudo.
[10:11] <yuan> yes,thanks
[10:13] <yuan> where is the a.tar.bz2 in the addresse that you give to me?
[10:13] <yuan> i can't start download there
[10:14] <pag> yuan, there are differend links on top of the site leading to dictionaries
[10:14] <pag> yuan, ie. http://stardict.sourceforge.net/Dictionaries_dictd-www.dict.org.php
[10:14] <yuan> a o ,hh
[10:15] <pag> and that a.tar.bz2 is just an example, yuu'll have to use the right filename
[10:16] <yuan> ok,got it,thanks
[10:35] <tino_> #ubuntu-es
[10:46] <KDEfanboy> is kmail supposed to have an entry in the K menu?
[10:46] <Lynoure> KDEfanboy: Office -> Kontact
[10:47] <KDEfanboy> hmm i only see kontact not one just for kmail
[10:47] <Lynoure> KDEfanboy: try it :)
[10:48] <Lynoure> KDEfanboy: if you want to add one for specifically kmail, you can, but at least my kontact starts fine with kmail view.
[10:48] <KDEfanboy> ya ok.. so then kmail doesn't have its own right.. want to confirm that as long as it's not just me
[10:48] <pag> KDEfanboy, well; if you want just the mail app, then you can launch it via alt+f2
[10:49] <KDEfanboy> kontact is good (except that a crash in a kontact module will take down the entire app, ie if akregator crashes, there goes your calendar, email, etc). launching apps manually is ok. just checking
[10:50] <KDEfanboy> because the package creates /usr/share/applications/kde/KMail.desktop but didnt show up is all
[10:51] <Lynoure> KDEfanboy: I have not had such crashes in kontact ever...
[10:52] <KDEfanboy> ah..i had them all the time with akregator
[10:53] <DjuDjetuuuuuuuuu> ima li nqkoi tuk e
[10:54] <ubuntu> hi
[10:55] <ubuntu> anyone knows i can get a linux driver for lexmark_
[10:57] <krokoach> aight
[11:02] <Ron> hi
[11:04] <rjb> hi, anyone have experience with bcm43xx (feisty)?
[11:05] <rjb> my q: after switching it on, i'm getting a steady stream of "APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)" in my logs
[11:05] <rjb> should I worry? how do i get rid of that?
[11:06] <dvm> I want to print a file from 25th line to till the EOF. How can i use the "head" or "tail" or similar commands?
[11:10] <Genix> if i used a guided partition set up will that make the drive bootable? i keep trying to install and i get past the install go to boot it up and i just get a blinking _ forever
[11:11] <rjb> dvm: something like $(($(wc -l <$FILE)-25))
[11:11] <rjb> oops, again
[11:11] <rjb> tail $(($(wc -l <$FILE)-25))
[11:12] <rjb> or make that -24
[11:12] <rjb> FILE=yourfilename.txt
[11:14] <rjb> ok more precisely:
[11:14] <rjb> FILE=yourfilename.txt
[11:14] <rjb> tail -n $(($(wc -l <$FILE)-24)) $FILE
[11:14] <rjb> this works
[11:15] <rjb> or, you might prefer
[11:16] <rjb> awk 'NR>24' yourfilename.txt
[11:18] <rjb> ok, so no one can help with the APIC error thing?
[11:19] <dvm> rjb,     cat sss.txt | tail -$(echo $((`cat sss.txt| wc -l`-25)))
[11:20] <dvm> rjb,   i got it,  thanks a lot
[11:21] <rjb> dvm: 2 useless calls of cat
[11:21] <rjb> if it's a class assignment (as i suppose), get rid of them
[11:22] <rjb> if it was my class they'd get you penalty points
[11:22] <rjb> otoh if it's not a class assignment, use the awk version
[11:23] <rjb> it's more readable
[11:24] <dvm> rjb, you solution sounds great, thanks
[11:26] <rjb> you never need to do : cat somecrap | somecommand
[11:26] <eth01> hey.. my kubuntu box won't connect to my wireless network any ideas?
[11:26] <rjb> when somecommand < somecrap does the same
[11:27] <eth01> maybe i need to update :/
[11:27] <scopecreep> i have a question but im not sure exactly how to ask it
[11:27] <eth01> don't ask to ask
[11:28] <scopecreep> i have a windows box with all of my songs and such, and i want to share that drive over the network, so i can listen in kubuntu
[11:28] <bomnb>  hi how can i hide direcrory from user in my proftpd server?
[11:28] <scopecreep> what would i use to do that?
[11:28] <eth01> sure, just share those files/folders on your win box, and get kubuntu to look at your win machine
[11:29] <pag> !samba | scopecreep
[11:29] <ubotu> scopecreep: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:30] <scopecreep> do i need to mount it as a disk from the console/
[11:30] <scopecreep> bah thanks i just read
[11:30] <scopecreep> much appreciated kind sir
[11:31] <krokoach> hi I created a new user and is not showing up when i log in
[11:31] <krokoach> oh wait
[11:31] <krokoach> I didn't try
[11:31] <rjb> scopecreep: you know how to switch on filesharing on your windoze box?
[11:31] <krokoach> can a guest account NOT have a passowrd?
[11:32] <scopecreep> rjb: i think so, but its a vista box
[11:32] <rjb> then after you do that, browse to smb:/ in konqueror
[11:33] <scopecreep> will do, im waiting on adept to get me all updated first
[11:33] <rjb> you should see whatever you set your 'wokgroup' to in windows
[11:33] <hangthedj> !windows
[11:33] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[11:33] <scopecreep> haha hey im working on kicking the habit
[11:33] <rjb> like net neighborhood or whatever it's called nowadays
[11:35] <SkorpKing> scopecreep: type smb://ip.of.win.box/ and you should get in if it's shared.
[11:37] <scopecreep> will do, im updating from a clean install so its taking me a moment
[11:37] <scopecreep> cant help but do that first these days
[11:37] <scopecreep> thus far im highly impressed though
[11:37] <eth01> how can i upgrade my kubuntu?
[11:37] <hangthedj> upgrade it to what?
[11:37] <eth01> latest version
[11:38] <pag> !upgrade | eth01
[11:38] <ubotu> eth01: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[11:38] <eth01> oh
[11:38] <eth01> i forgot which version im runnin
[11:38] <scopecreep> can i just install smbfs since i just want client access to the windows box?
[11:38] <hangthedj> change everything in your /etc/apt/sources.list to say feisty, then save, 'sudo apt-get update' then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[11:40] <hangthedj> scopecreep: smbfs is just a fuse type thing to mount windows shares. you need samba and libsambaclient i think, or just sambaclient. there are only like 5 packages for samba.
[11:41] <scopecreep> hangthedj: ah thank you
[11:41] <hangthedj> besides the integrated programming packages, for like python and ruby and stuff.
[11:41] <scopecreep> ive been tinkering in python lately so ill need that anyway
[11:42] <krokoach> can a guest account NOT have a passowrd?
[11:43] <SkorpKing> scopecreep: there is a gui to smbfs called smb4k or something, not sure. very easy to use.
[11:43] <hangthedj> on linux or windows?
[11:44] <scopecreep> the only bump ive had was creative not releasing x-fi drivers, but everything works fine in vmware
[11:44] <scopecreep> it was on linux when i worked at the college
[11:47] <scopecreep> my adept mirror seems kinda sluggish.  does it choose one close, or can i find a closer mirror?
[11:47] <hangthedj> krokoach: windows can have a guest account but its hard to use in my experience. on linux its guest or nobody, or anonymous. but you have to give it access rights in the configuration of samba or nfs
[11:48] <scopecreep> (nevermind it was openoffice)
[11:49] <eth01> unable to lock administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), ??
[11:50] <hangthedj> 'sudo'
[11:50] <hangthedj> !sudo | eth01
[11:50] <ubotu> eth01: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:50] <eth01> im using sudo
[11:50] <krokoach> what are the JPEG thumbnail plug in?
[11:51] <hangthedj> eth01: is synaptic or adept running in the gui?
[11:51] <krokoach> hangthedj: I meant a regular LINUX guest user. Two person will be using this computer
[11:51] <qlr> hello
[11:51] <eth01> it sure was, working now thx
[11:51] <qlr> !mp3
[11:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:52] <hangthedj> krokoach: just make an account for the other person?
[11:53] <aznpridechinese> can someone help me setup my sound card?
[11:53] <t_maus> which one do you have
[11:54] <aznpridechinese> sound blaster x-fi extreme, someone gave me a link that made it worked before although all the threads on google said alsa doesn't support it
[11:55] <krokoach> is there a Konqeror Jpeg thumbnail viewer?
[11:55] <krokoach> htanks
[11:55] <krokoach> thanks
[11:55] <hangthedj> krokoach: i think there is a plugin to integrate kview.
[11:56] <qlr> argh
[11:56] <t_maus> mmh
[11:56] <qlr> how do i enable mp3 support for amarok?
[11:56] <hangthedj> libxine-extracodecs
[11:56] <hangthedj> i thnk in the universe repository
[11:56] <t_maus> mp3 codec ?!
[11:57] <bldzr> Should be in the FAQ
[11:57] <scopecreep> oh any advice if i were going to convert my whole collection to ogg?
[11:57] <t_maus> ffmpeg
[11:58] <qlr> i love you hangthedj
[11:58] <t_maus> look to gentoo wiki there is a very good how you can work tith this tool
[11:58] <hangthedj> ?
[11:58] <hangthedj> thanks
[11:59] <snowstorm> since yesterday my desktop freezes when I want to do a shutdown, does anybody know more about this?
[11:59] <aznpridechinese> t_maus, ??
[11:59] <t_maus> my name
[11:59] <hangthedj> snowstorm: it may just be taking extra time to shut down some programs.
[11:59] <qlr> another question, how about Macromedia Flash for konqueror?
[11:59] <aznpridechinese> yes, did you get what i said?
[11:59] <aznpridechinese> can you help?
[12:00] <t_maus> yeah sry sound blaster i remeber
[12:00] <hangthedj> http://www.flash.com
[12:00] <t_maus> remember
[12:01] <t_maus> which mainboard do you have
[12:01] <t_maus> nforce4 ?
[12:01] <snowstorm> hangthedj, it does not look like that because my monitor goes in standby, my keyboard does not respond anymore, and even after 30mins no change
[12:01] <aznpridechinese> i have ausus extreme striker
[12:01] <aznpridechinese> as my motherboard
[12:01] <hangthedj> qlr: if you enable all the repositories, (universe, multiverse) you should be able to download mozilla-flash something or flash-nonfree
[12:01] <t_maus> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-239981.html
[12:02] <aznpridechinese> yes i've seen that site about a thousand times
[12:02] <t_maus> sry more cant i tell you think so
[12:02] <hangthedj> snowstorm: i have the same problem with my laptop right now... (sometimes). i just turn it off. haven't found a fix yet.
[12:03] <hangthedj> although if i use hibernate, it shuts right off?
[12:04] <snowstorm> hangthedj, first I experienced it with switching users, logging out of a session completely froze my computer. I stopped switching, but now it's even worse when I can't shutdown anymore :-(
[12:05] <hangthedj> although, actually, when i use hibernate, it jumps to a screen saver, then i enter a password, then it hibernates. (feisty)
[12:06] <hangthedj> but i don't mind, thats a small problem, it took me a week to compile the kernel so my wireless and sound worked.
[12:07] <eth01> whats the difference between edgey and feisty?
[12:07] <t_maus> the name
[12:08] <t_maus> and some little version of kde realeses and gnome . also the system start provides xinetdf
[12:08] <t_maus> xinetd
[12:08] <rjb> fukk, bcm43xx seems to hang my machine
[12:08] <hangthedj> edgy is kubuntu 6.10, feisty is kubuntu 7.04
[12:10] <qlr> argh, i installed klash plugin for konqueror and now all i see is black boxes :(
[12:10] <qlr> can anyone help me with my flash problem? :D
[12:11] <SlimeyPete> erm, yeah... don't use klash. It's based on gnash, hich is the incomplete GNU flash interpreter.
[12:12] <SlimeyPete> I've heard that one can simply install flash for firefox and then copy the plugin over to konqueror but I'venever done it myself.
[12:12] <rjb> btw is there still nothing that works for flash on amd64?
[12:12] <qlr> so i sould use firefox?
[12:12] <SlimeyPete> I use firefox, personally. Opera's good too, if you don't mind usin closed-source software.
[12:13] <SlimeyPete> rjb: I think you have to install firefox in a 32-bit chroot jail or something
[12:13] <rjb> no better solution?
[12:13] <eth01> whilst using wireless assistant 0.5.5. to connect to my wireless network (c1) it has the WEP etc correctly, however when i actually connect it says 'Connection Failed'. resolv.conf is correct.?
[12:13] <SlimeyPete> not that I've heard
[12:13] <rjb> blah
[12:13] <pag> qlr, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree konq-plugins
[12:14] <pag> rjb, the current gnash works pretty well, for what I've heard
[12:14] <t_maus> eth01 know problem , some times the wireless assistant does not work fine....
[12:14] <eth01> it's always happening.. what else can i try?
[12:14] <t_maus> you can you the ksettings Network to set your wlan network
[12:14] <eth01> the wireless card works though :/
[12:14] <rjb> pag: would it work with youtube, or pandora?
[12:15] <t_maus> with WEP WPA etc
[12:15] <rjb> last i tried it definitely did not
[12:15] <eth01> hmm wheres that?
[12:15] <t_maus> K > System Settings
[12:15] <pag> rjb, I've heard that it works with Youtube, not sure about pandora - but I guess only the gutsy / svn -vresion works
[12:16] <rjb> pag: the 32bit emulation way sorta works, but has trouble with sound
[12:17] <rjb> so it's not really a fully functional solution
[12:17] <whippy> morning ;)
[12:17] <pag> rjb, to get Youtube working you'll probably need 0.8.0  feisty has 0.7.2
[12:17] <eth01> eh? click the administrator mode button? (Dont see it)
[12:17] <rjb> pag: thx, i'll keep na eye on it
[12:17] <t_maus> scroll down
[12:17] <t_maus> resize your window
[12:17] <rjb> an eye, even
[12:17] <eth01> :P lol
[12:17] <t_maus> make the window bigger etc
[12:19] <eth01> wireless assistant - don't use
[12:19] <t_maus> h ?
[12:19] <qlr> pag: i get an error msg, may i paste it in private? :D
[12:19] <pag> !paste | qlr
[12:19] <ubotu> qlr: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:21] <qlr> pag: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29460/
[12:22] <pag> qlr, are you using 32-bit version?  ( uname -m  can give a hint)
[12:22] <aznpridechinese> !sound
[12:22] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[12:23] <pag> qlr, and do you have Multiverse enabled?
[12:24] <qlr> pag: multiverse is enabled (i think) and it's a 64-bit version
[12:25] <pag> qlr, oh... then you should either use 32bit firefox ( ask ubotu for !flash64 ) or compile the newest version of gnash
[12:26] <qlr> pag: i see
[12:26] <qlr> !flash64
[12:26] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[12:26] <qlr> okay, thx for the help, gtg
[12:29] <rjb> hmm it took about 10 attempts before my wireless came up
[12:29] <eth01> :P
[12:29] <rjb> wireless is weird
[12:29] <eth01> when will a new version of this wireless manager come out?
[12:29] <rjb> usually a device either works or it doesn;t
[12:29] <rjb> while wireless tends to "sorta work"
[12:35] <rjb> how can i prevent the newer "guidance" power manager from starting at login?
[12:35] <rjb> the older powermanagement gadget works better for me
[12:38] <rjb> oh and does anybody else see a big difference with fonts in feisty, as compared to edgy?
[12:42] <rjb> maybe i need to pick a different set of antialiasing options, 'cause the ui fonts have become awfully pale
[12:42] <rjb> but i tried several combinations already, and it doesn't seem to make much difference
[12:46] <rjb> ok, nothing more to learn here - c.u.
[01:04] <zipper> How can i see a list of UUID for my partitions?
[01:05] <zipper> and what should i put in my fstab to allow every user to read/write a FAT32 partition?
[01:06] <dromer> can anyone here help me to set up SynCE for my Acer N10? (#synce is quite empty with no response)
[01:08] <rami> I got a virus in wine, does it affect kubuntu?
[01:08] <zipper> probably not
[01:08] <meuhlol> rami: non :) if it's win32 virus, so don't care about :)
[01:09] <rami> ok:)
[01:09] <rami> i removed it
[01:10] <meuhlol> zipper: dunno for uuid, but for a partitions list it's sudo fdisk -l
[01:11] <zipper> meuhlol, blkid seems to list the partitions with UUID and all, but thx
[01:11] <tapas> ugh.. my desktop icons change positions on every login
[01:11] <tapas> which sucks.
[01:12] <tapas> any hints?
[01:12] <meuhlol> zipper: for read and write on fat32 partition i think you should mount it somewhere (maybe chroot)
[01:13] <zipper> meuhlol, oh, but its already mounted, i just have writing permission
[01:13] <meuhlol> tapas: really? o lol, dunno, me it's changes sometimes desktops xD
[01:13] <tapas> Mentre: sorry, i couldn't parse your sentence
[01:16] <meuhlol> zipper: sudo mkdir /media/fat32
[01:18] <meuhlol> after: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/fat32 #replace sda1 with a hard drive which contains fat32
[01:18] <meuhlol> my fat32 is /dev/sda2 an i mount it like that xD
[01:18] <crube> I have an external HD formatted a FAT (I need it to be FAT becouse it's used as a home network drive with Windows computers aswell). Would it work if I mounted it as /home/username ?
[01:19] <meuhlol> crube: see exemple below that i wrote for zipper :)
[01:19] <zipper> meuhlol, thats a very troublesome way to do it. Then you'll have to do that every time you reboot.
[01:20] <zipper> i want to setup my fstab to give every user Read/write permission
[01:20] <meuhlol> zipper: yes, but dunno other ways :)
[01:21] <crube> meuhlol: I dont have a problem with that. My FAT drive automatically mounts on startup or when plugged in. I was just wondering that if I'd edit fstab to have the mount point at /home/username that would it work without problems
[01:22] <kartal> how can i use restricted devices manager in Kubuntu ? where is it i cant find
[01:22] <crube> !fat32
[01:22] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[01:23] <meuhlol> there is your anwer so :)
[01:24] <pag> kartal, you can't... at least there's no native one. You can install gnomes RDM by typing " sudo apt-get install restricted-manager " but that will install a lot of gnome-depencies
[01:24] <eth01> i like the new GUI for kbuntu, who designed it?
[01:24] <kartal> i installed it
[01:24] <kartal> but i cant find it :D
[01:24] <t_maus> eth01 kde team
[01:25] <eth01> where can we find them
[01:25] <t_maus> kde.org
[01:25] <pag> kartal, try typing " restricted-manager " in alt+f2
[01:25] <t_maus> lock for team on the left side
[01:25] <kartal> i will try
[01:25] <kartal> it says comand not found hmm
[01:26] <pag> kartal, type " which restricted-manager " in konsole
[01:28] <pag> kartal, does it output something?
[01:28] <kartal> i did execute it but it comes with too much error messages
[01:29] <pag> !paste | kartal, please paste the errors here
[01:29] <ubotu> kartal, please paste the errors here: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:30] <kartal> ok thx for help
[01:31] <aznpridechinese> please someone must know how to setup my sound card
[01:34] <zipper> aznpridechinese, if someone does, i'm sure you can find help on ubuntu forums, ubuntu wiki or similar. Soundcards are sometimes a tricky affair
[01:35] <aznpridechinese> i've searched all over google for alsa, sound blaster etc and none of the tutorials actually work
[01:36] <zipper> aznpridechinese, then you might be out of luck
[01:36] <aznpridechinese> no that's not true, cuz someone in here about a week ago gave me a link to a website that actually made my sound card work but i forgot to save the url
[01:37] <zipper> look in your browsers history then?
[01:37] <aznpridechinese> i would if i could but i've reinstall kubuntu about 20 times since then
[01:37] <zipper> then you are out of luck after all :)
[01:37] <aznpridechinese> i have everything working perfectly except my sound card
[01:39] <rami> :( poor you
[01:42] <tapas> meuhlol: sorry i couldn't parse your sentence
[01:44] <meuhlol> what?
[01:51] <DarkWizdom> is there any application to show RSS feeds on desktop? something like gkrellm but for feeds :)
[01:51] <helppc__> witam
[01:51] <helppc__> jest ktos kto mowi po polskiemu
[01:51] <helppc__> ?
[01:51] <Lynoure> !pl
[01:51] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[01:51] <helppc__> !pl
[01:52] <Lynoure> helppc__: /join #ubuntu-pl
[01:54] <eth01> how can i play windows formats?
[01:55] <pag> eth01, hmm? sudo apt-get install w32codecs  maybe?
[01:55] <eth01> yeah
[01:55] <pag> or w64codecs if you're on and64
[01:55] <eth01> i want to play .avi
[01:56] <pag> eth01, then those are the right packages iirc
[01:56] <eth01> and my box says ; couldn't find package w32codecs
[01:56] <whippy> hey pag ;)
[01:56] <whippy> is it possible to send you a pm without beeing registred?
[01:56] <whippy> ;)
[01:56] <eth01> no
[01:57] <pag> eth01, you have to have either medibuntu or seveas enabled
[01:57] <pag> !seveas | eth01
[01:57] <ubotu> eth01: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:58] <pag> whippy, it's not.
[01:58] <eth01> ty
[01:58] <whippy> is it cause of the server? or is this a user setting?
[01:58] <eth01> tmarkey: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:58] <eth01> that was me btw :p
[01:59] <pag> whippy, well.. both; server enables that option by default, but it can be disabled afaik.
[01:59] <whippy> you mean from the user?
[01:59] <pag> whippy, yup.
[01:59] <whippy> its possible for the user, but the change would take affect to all users...
[02:00] <whippy> i see ;)
[02:00] <whippy> yesterday i made a fine party ;) nothing about PC...
[02:00] <whippy> was real fine ;)
[02:00] <whippy> (: i know its a pc channel ;)
[02:00] <whippy> no troubles, only wanted to mention it ;)
[02:01] <whippy> perhaps today or tomorrow i also going to try mediaubuntu
[02:02] <whippy> pag, you know is there a antivirus software for linux?
[02:02] <whippy> clamav or so?
[02:02] <whippy> or is there a better one?
[02:02] <pag> whippy, clamav is one, but since I don't use them I cannot rate them
[02:03] <tmarkey> where can i get mediaubuntu?
[02:03] <tmarkey> sudo apt-get install mediaubuntu?
[02:03] <whippy> so u use no AV on your machine?
[02:03] <pag> tmarkey, what do you mean by mediaubuntu
[02:03] <pag> !virus
[02:03] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[02:03] <whippy> thats about singing packages or?
[02:03] <eth01> :/
[02:03] <whippy> cause every ubuntu package is signed with a hash, or?
[02:04] <pag> whippy, yeah. that and rights-managment create a pretty safe enviroment
[02:04] <eth01> damn.. i need to play .avi files
[02:04] <eth01> what should i use
[02:05] <whippy> is the hash is automatically enabled?
[02:05] <pag> eth01, as I said... w32codecs or w64codecs (depends on your arch)
[02:05] <whippy> and the repositories are automatically trusted?
[02:05] <eth01> im using feisty *
[02:05] <whippy> the few repo-servers?
[02:05] <eth01> and I don't know how to install it
[02:05] <whippy> @eth01 or you try mplayer,
[02:05] <pag> whippy, not sure if I'm following... I guess it is(?)
[02:05] <pag> !medibuntu | eth01
[02:05] <ubotu> eth01: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[02:06] <whippy> cause in other Linux distributions it shows a SHA sum
[02:06] <whippy> or a MD5 and here i can't see any hash on the screen, ask me self if this is checked in the background?
[02:07] <pag> whippy, md5sums are checked automatically, and can be seen via apt-cache show package
[02:07] <whippy> nope,
[02:07] <whippy> i cant see anything
[02:08] <whippy> ah ok
[02:08] <whippy> you mean as "package" the name of it oke
[02:08] <whippy> try again
[02:08] <whippy> yeah right, works
[02:08] <whippy> whow thats really cool
[02:09] <eth01> ive done the 2 commands for mediabuntu, where will i find it
[02:09] <eth01> ?
[02:09] <pag> eth01, sudo apt-get install w**codecs
[02:09] <crube> I want to add my extrenal HD to appear as a normal folder to my home/username directory. If I add a normal link it opens to a new windows and I dont want it that way. Can I make a symbolic link to make this happen? Something like "ls -s /media/myHD /home/username/folder
[02:10] <pag> eth01, substitute ** to 32 or 64
[02:10] <whippy> they wanted to put ubuntu on new notebooks i heard,,,,,
[02:10] <whippy> does someone knew something about that?
[02:10] <eth01> try apt-get -f install
[02:10] <praecox_1> hej guys
[02:10] <whippy> hey praecox
[02:11] <praecox_1> where can I find tutorial on how to set XGL/Compiz on Kubuntu Feisty?
[02:11] <eth01> ah too many packages :)
[02:11] <praecox_1> there's everywhere Ubuntu guides, not Kubuntu ones.
[02:11] <pag> crube, symbolic links should work... or you can change the mountpoin from the fstab... ln -s  is far easier though
[02:11] <pag> praecox_1, they mosty work on both
[02:12] <eth01> im trying to install cpanel on ubuntu haha
[02:12] <praecox_1> pag, and which one is better: compiz or beryl?
[02:12] <whippy> @eth1
[02:12] <praecox_1> pag, afaik beryl is based on compiz.
[02:12] <whippy> i last tried to install kdevelop, the new one,
[02:12] <pag> praecox_1, compiz is more stable, beryl looks nicer
[02:13] <crube> pag: I didn't think of that. Making a symlink didn't work. It just game me a list of the folders so there might be some other option I need to add to make a folder-to-folder symlink.
[02:13] <whippy> i worked with apt-get -f install
[02:13] <whippy> dpkg --install packagename
[02:13] <eth01> yea, that's what I have just done
[02:13] <whippy> and
[02:13] <whippy> apt-get remove packagename
[02:14] <whippy> and you have to keep attention to the responding messages on your screen
[02:14] <whippy> somethimes there is a special library needed,
[02:14] <whippy> with a special version number, than you have to check if the library is there
[02:14] <whippy> if a lower one is there,
[02:14] <whippy> u have to remove it,
[02:14] <whippy> and install the right one,
[02:14] <pag> crube, umm... I've tried " ln -s /media/sda2 /home/pavel/Desktop/Windows " and it worked fine for me
[02:15] <eth01> apt-get -f install, looks like it updates/installs packages needed
[02:15] <praecox_1> pag, ok, will try compiz. has you got any working howto for XGL/Compiz on Kubuntu?
[02:15] <pag> praecox_1, personally I didn'n manage to get either of those to work... ask in #ubuntu-effects
[02:15] <crube> pag:  alright I might have just typed something wrong I'll try again
[02:16] <praecox_1> pag, sounds good, thanks.
[02:16] <crube> pag heh. I typed "ls" instead of "ln" and it gave me a list :D
[02:17] <pag> crube, heh... :D
[02:17] <mikearthur> I'm trying to use debuild to build a dpkg file
[02:17] <dromer> anyone here with experience with Pocket PC's and syncing them on linux?
[02:18] <mikearthur> but it keeps wanting to build amd64 stuff?
[02:18] <mikearthur> on my i386 system
[02:21] <eth01> kaffeine can actually play .avi stuff
[02:22] <crube> Kaffeine is a good video player
[02:24] <eth01> it loads the title stuff, but doesn't play heh
[02:26] <crube> eth01: What file type?
[02:26] <BluesKaj> Howdy All
[02:26] <eth01> www.whatson.com
[02:26] <eth01> im trying to play that
[02:26] <eth01> what does your box use to play it?!
[02:27] <crube> eth01: That's a flash movie.
[02:28] <eth01> part of it is.
[02:28] <eth01> it has music/radio attached
[02:28] <crube> Oh
[02:28] <crube> have you tried mozilla-mplayer package?
[02:29] <eth01> how can i use that?
[02:29] <eth01> apt-get ?
[02:31] <tmarkey> .
[02:33] <mario_> I found grubconf ...but I can't install it
[02:34] <eth01> crube: how can i install mozzila-mplayer?
[02:35] <gnomefreak> eth01: sudo apt-get install mplayer (or mozilla-mplayer)
[02:36] <mario_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29472/
[02:36] <crube> eth01: "sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer"
[02:38] <eth01> :)
[02:38] <eth01> is there anyway to run multiple processes of dkkg?
[02:38] <eth01> dpkg *
[02:39] <_Shade_> !java
[02:39] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[02:52] <drif_> does anyone know if security.ubuntu.com is currently down?
[02:59] <BluesKaj> drif_,yes it appears to be down
[03:11] <ardchoille> Are some of the repos down or is my connection acting bad?
[03:11] <ardchoille> Oh, never mind.
[03:22] <crube> I get stuck for a very long time on "Waiting for headers" every time I apt-get
[03:24] <clau85> hi. i cannot upgrade nexuiz from 2.0 to 2.3(or 2.2.3?), because it breaks. what can i do about it?
[03:27] <BluesKaj> clau85, sometimes upgrading an app isn't such a good idea
[03:27] <r00t_> um my Kmenu bar just randomly decided to disapeer,ive tried rebooting and its still gone
[03:28] <r00t_> whats the menubars package name?or how would i restart it from a CL?
[03:28] <BluesKaj> clau85, you may need to upgrade associated dependencies , but adept or synaptic should tell you that
[03:30] <ardchoille> r00t_: dcop kicker default restart
[03:30] <BluesKaj> r00t_, no k-menu at all ?
[03:30] <ardchoille> That wil restart kicker
[03:31] <r00t_> huh it showed up for a second then vanished again
[03:33] <eth01> ouch, why does feisty look like ubuntu :/
[03:33] <eth01> its changed meh
[03:34] <r00t_> eth01: feisty kubuntu looks like ubuntu?well they are both ubuntu
[03:34] <eth01> graphically.
[03:34] <eth01> the wallpaper/ etc
[03:35] <yotux> Is it possible to install kubuntu without a Internet connect on the alternative cd?
[03:35] <r00t_> are there any other options for a kmenu like thing?kooldock crashes on me so thats out of the question
[03:37] <BluesKaj> uhoh r00t_ , sounds like you have deeper probs
[03:37] <eth01> hmm how can i install libauthen-pam-perl :)
[03:38] <eth01> apt-get doesn't work
[03:39] <r00t_> eth01:what do you mean apt-get dosent work?
[03:39] <r00t_> how so?
[03:39] <r00t_> BluesKaj: kooldock crashed after a fresh install,thats nothing new
[03:39] <eth01> the package doesn't exist.
[03:40] <ardchoille> eth01: Which package?
[03:40] <eth01> its needed for webmin
[03:40] <clau85> BluesKaj: adept just sais "break", but won't say anything
[03:40] <eth01> libauthen-pam-perl :)
[03:40] <ardchoille> !webmin
[03:40] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[03:41] <eth01> urgh.
[03:41] <eth01> managed to get this .deb however.
[03:41] <ardchoille> eth01: That what happens when you install .deb's, you have to hunt down deps manually. Was that .deb built for ubuntu?
[03:42] <eth01> it compiled fine.
[03:42] <eth01> what else do you suggest?
[03:42] <ardchoille> Don't use webmin?
[03:42] <eth01> what else then using webmin
[03:43] <flake> i just played with a gutsy appliance in vmware and it seems to run well, is it ready for prime time
[03:43] <ardchoille> What are you trying to accomplish?
[03:43] <eth01> I want a control panel, with the likes of webmin.
[03:44] <ardchoille> Well, if you want to use webmin, despite it no longer being supported, you'll have to resolve dependencies manually.
[03:45] <ardchoille> eth01: Keep in mind, resolving one dep may require resolving several deps for that one dep.. then you go on to the next dep.
[03:45] <ardchoille> Welcome to dependency hell :)
[03:46] <eth01> :P
[03:47] <eth01> so you don't know of another control panel :P
[03:47] <ardchoille> Control panel for a web host?
[03:47] <eth01> no, server management
[03:47] <ardchoille> PErhaps use ssh and learn how to do things on the command line?
[03:48] <ardchoille> That will solve your deps problem and teach you new things at the same time
[03:49] <eth01> yes
[03:50] <flake> is anyone playing with gutsy
[03:50] <ardchoille> flake: You might want to also join #ubuntu+1 (gutsy support)
[03:50] <flake> ahh thanks
[03:50] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[03:51] <BluesKaj> ardchoille, are you saying apt and aptitude are able to gather the right dependencies from the repos more effectively than adept or synaptic ?
[03:52] <eth01> anyway thanks ardcho
[03:52] <ardchoille> BluesKaj: What do adept and synaptic use as their backends?
[03:54] <BluesKaj> dunno, the repos ? :)
[03:55] <ardchoille> APT
[03:55] <BluesKaj> yeah, that's why i asked
[03:56] <ardchoille> So the answer to your question is?
[03:56] <ardchoille> !info openarena
[03:56] <ubotu> openarena: A fast-paced 3D Ego-Shooter. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-2 (feisty), package size 747 kB, installed size 1652 kB
[03:56] <BluesKaj> so then why isn't dept reporting what dependencies are needed in some cases , unless of course the pkg is a debian deb and not kubuntu
[03:57] <BluesKaj> adept
[03:57] <leileilol> there's a deb package of the new 0.7.0 on getdeb
[03:57] <eth01> meh i installed webmin
[03:57] <eth01> you need 2 perl .debs and your fine
[03:57] <ardchoille> BluesKaj: I don't know, I never use a gui for package management.
[03:57] <eth01> for me it was *
[03:58] <BluesKaj> i do sometimes , with stuff that needs a global install , like java, flash etc
[04:01] <_Iamda> define trolls
[04:01] <BluesKaj> !troll
[04:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about troll - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <_Iamda> when it comes toIRC, what are trolls?
[04:07] <BluesKaj> ardchoille, what browser do you use , I've been trying Konq since it's the safest according to most testing . I'd like to add some bookmarks to the toolbar , but how ?
[04:08] <ardchoille> elinks
[04:09] <ardchoille> BluesKaj: From what I remember, you can set a toolbar for bookmarks
[04:09] <ardchoille> BluesKaj: Settings > Toolbars > Bookmark toolbar
[04:13] <neko__> How i can install cedega ?
[04:14] <neko__>  File "/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega/Point2Play_gui.py", line 37, in <module>
[04:14] <neko__>     raise Point2PlayError(_("Unable to load GTK2 Python bindings") + "(%s)" % str( sys.exc_info()[1]  ) )
[04:14] <neko__> NameError: name '_' is not defined
[04:14] <neko__> Help me
[04:16] <ardchoille> neko__: I think you need python-gtk2  and possibly python-gtk2-dev
[04:16] <ardchoille> may not need the dev package
[04:24] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: Ping
[04:26] <BluesKaj> hey jhutchins , how goes it ?
[04:27] <BluesKaj> finally figured out how to add the bookmark folders to the konq toolbar ...took me some time but it 's working now
[04:27] <jim88> hi all ... I am trying having a problem with the helix-player not updating and I think my archive is corrupted .. does anyone know how I can rebuild my archives?
[04:29] <dr_willis> redownload it?
[04:29] <Minataku> lo, dr_willis
[04:29] <dr_willis> :)
[04:30] <BruceH> Hello everyone, I'm having a bit of difficulty with my xorg configuration. Specifically, I can't get the exact resolution/refresh rates I need.
[04:30] <BruceH> That I know my video card supports
[04:31] <jim88> hi all ... I am trying having a problem with the helix-player not updating and I think my archive is corrupted .. does anyone know how I can rebuild my archives?
[04:31] <Daisuke_Ido> !patience | jim88
[04:31] <ubotu> jim88: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:31] <stefan> !vnc
[04:31] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[04:31] <BluesKaj> BruceH, you also need to use the right drivers for your Monitor ..ppl sometimes forget that
[04:31] <jim88> ty
[04:32] <BluesKaj> BBL
[04:32] <BruceH> got them BluesKaj
[04:32] <Daisuke_Ido> BruceH: claiming 54hz when it should be 60?
[04:32] <BruceH> more like claiming 54 when it should be 87, but yes
[04:32] <tealson> is there a way to controle the cpu frequency through the kde panel (like it is possible in gnome)?
[04:32] <Daisuke_Ido> that's fairly typical.  not fun, but it happens a lot
[04:33] <Daisuke_Ido> and now unfortunately i got suckered into going to work on my day off, those bastards.
[04:33] <BruceH> It's gotta be an xorg config issue, right?
[04:33] <Daisuke_Ido> i would imagine so
[04:34] <BruceH> perhaps someone else can help. Thanks anyway, Daisuke
[04:36] <BruceH> restarting X, will hopefully be back in a moment
[04:38] <tzanger> just a quick question for a debian/kubuntu newb, but veteran Slackware user...  If I've already got an etch install cd, can I "install" kubuntu and obtain the same system as if I were to download a 7.04 CD and install it?
[04:38] <tzanger> I remember reading somewhere that it was trivial to change from ubuntu to kubuntu in that way, but I'm not sure about debian->kubuntu
[04:39] <jhutchins> tzanger: It's possible to transform ubuntu, which uses a Gnome desktop and default programs, to Kubuntu which uses KDE, and to have both Gnome and KDE available.
[04:39] <_4str1> tzanger: i dont think debian -> ubuntu gonna work
[04:39] <jhutchins> tzanger: On the other hand, a lot of people have problems with kubuntu installed on top of gnome..
[04:40] <tzanger> jhutchins: ok, I'd read that, so it's good to have confirmation... :-)
[04:40] <tzanger> _4str1: ok, I'll download the CD then :-)  Thanks
[04:40] <tameekawhite> hey guys got a question
[04:40] <tzanger> I'm gonna try like hell to make kubuntu work instead of fallingback on my old slackware... I love it but I've got zero knowledge to be able to help others using more modern distros
[04:40] <_4str1> !ask
[04:40] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:40] <jhutchins> tzanger: I would recommend that you download the kubuntu feisty fawn 7.04 CD, and install that if you're starting from scratch.
[04:40] <ardchoille> tzanger: If you download the ubuntu cd and install it, getting kde is a matter of  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:40] <tzanger> Juki_: ok, thanks
[04:41] <tzanger> thanks everyone, I appreciate it!
[04:41] <ardchoille> s/download/have/
[04:41] <Lynoure> If you have separate home, and not a complicated install, installing ubuntu instead of debian should not be that painful
[04:41] <tameekawhite> has anyone used unionfs on ubuntu server
[04:41] <dr_willis> I always install Ubuntu, then install Kubuntu-desktop
[04:41] <ardchoille> tzanger: You have the ubuntu cd already
[04:41] <ardchoille> ?
[04:42] <tzanger> I'm planning on doing a xen dom0 kubuntu so I can run winxp as a domu on this laptop
[04:42] <jhutchins> dr_willis: Why?  So you'll be aware of the problems that causes and be able to help?
[04:42] <tzanger> so LVM root
[04:42] <dr_willis> jhutchins,  i use some gnome apps.. and some kde appps.
[04:42] <dr_willis> Wife likes gnome., i perfer kde also..
[04:43] <jhutchins> dr_willis: Ok, you the goto guy now for mixed system problems.
[04:43] <dr_willis> Ive not really seen any problems from the systems being mixed
[04:43] <dr_willis> Its amazing how well one can run kde+gnome apps on the same desktop
[04:43] <dr_willis> I rember years ago there used to be some big issues. but cant think of any at the moment.
[04:44] <jhutchins> dr_willis: I've mostly seen problems with kubuntu on top of ubuntu - other systems, older systems with both worked fine, although there are more dependencies for gnome apps.
[04:44] <jhutchins> dr_willis: I suspect it's 90% user error, but we do get a lot in here.
[04:46] <dr_willis> I do MUCH perfer the gnome-cups-manager interface to add my printers..
[04:46] <dr_willis> i never can seem to get KDE to do it properly.
[04:46] <dr_willis> Plus the kde interface wants tto scan the 127.0.0.* network for networked printers.  Which is... weird.
[04:47] <dr_willis> I need a new printer one of these days
[04:47] <jhutchins> dr_willis: You can get some incredible deals these days.  I got a Brother laser printer for $80.  I think the cartridges for my old HP were pretty close to that.
[04:48] <ainesso> I have a problem with bluefish under kubuntu feisty
[04:49] <ainesso> I can't access my pages on the server using gnome-vfs
[04:49] <jhutchins> dr_willis: Do you see any common error that people who install kubuntu-desktop on top of ubuntu make?
[04:49] <ainesso> even though this worked fine out of the box in dapper
[04:49] <dr_willis> Yea. But how much is the carts for the new printer. :) Seen a few cases where ya get a new printer and they dont even include full Toner Carts/
[04:49] <dr_willis> jhutchins,  other then theyh think that they converted their system to 'kde' when its just the splash/kdm themes that changed. :)
[04:49] <jhutchins> dr_willis: Hasn't run out yet, so we'll see.  (Been about six months).
[04:50] <dr_willis> Ive had my HP laserjet 6L - for 10+ years
[04:50] <dr_willis> average about one toner cart a year.   and i print a lot.
[04:50] <jhutchins> ainesso: You'd probably get get better support for gnome-vfs on #ubuntu.
[04:50] <jhutchins> ainesso: What protocol is it actually using?
[04:50] <ainesso> I know, but it's under kubuntu
[04:51] <dr_willis> Getting where its getting hard to FIND the toner carts locally.
[04:51] <ainesso> ftp over gnome-vfs
[04:51] <dr_willis> gnome maybe starting up some services that it needs. kde isent starting them
[04:51] <ainesso> the thing is
[04:51] <ainesso> this changed from dapper to feisty
[04:51] <jhutchins> ainesso: Hrmn.  My kde apps, and I also use Quanta, don't have any trouble dealing with ftp:// directly as a filesystem.
[04:53] <ainesso> I've allready tried #bluefish, but there's nobody there
[04:54] <dr_willis> start a gnome session in vnc. :) see if it works in kde and the gn0me-vncsession
[04:54] <dr_willis> then see what alls running
[04:54] <dr_willis> IF it works.
[04:54] <jhutchins> ainesso: Give Quanta a shot, I find it pretty useful, and I never did get bluefish to do anything useful for me.
[04:54] <ardchoille> !hardware
[04:54] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[04:55] <nosrednaekim> hello all.
[04:55] <nosrednaekim> I have a request.
[04:55] <ainesso> jhutchins: just moved from quanta to bluefish, guess we have different preferences :)
[04:55] <dr_willis> vi! :)
[04:55] <nosrednaekim> could the default KDE theme be made a little more glitzy?
[04:55] <jhutchins> ainesso: Yeah, part of it just depends on what you figure out first.
[04:56] <nosrednaekim> oh wait... i'll go over to kubuntu-devel
[04:56] <dr_willis> nosrednaekim,  they really dont care about the themes. :)
[04:56] <dr_willis> you can always download/install others.
[04:56] <jhutchins> nosrednaekim: Why don't you come up with something?
[04:56] <dr_willis> the devel's worry about the Core/Foundation of the KDE stuff..
[04:57] <nosrednaekim> I would love to, would they accept it?
[04:57] <dr_willis> I like Plastik.
[04:57] <dr_willis> kde-look.org - will accept anything...
[04:57] <jthomas> good day!  can anyone help me with qpage software setup for Sprint (USA)?
[04:57] <nosrednaekim> I mean a kubuntu default theme
[04:57] <jhutchins> nosrednaekim: It's not "they", it's "us" really.  Why does it have to be the default?
[04:57] <dr_willis> nosrednaekim,  well #2 - kubuntu is not kde' :)  Kubuntu has its own default theme.
[04:57] <jhutchins> nosrednaekim: Do something more appealing to everybody, everybody will like it and start using it.
[04:58] <dr_willis> themes are such a subjectve choice......
[04:58] <dr_willis> I perfer mine simple and clear.
[04:58] <dr_willis> Others want silly OS-X wannabes
[04:58] <nosrednaekim> I don't exactly mean themes, I mean turning on some of the transparency features and stuff.
[04:59] <nosrednaekim> I know that most kubuntu users aren't even aware that KDE's effects rival beryl's
[04:59] <jhutchins> ... or vista imitations that use up all the system resources with eyecandy and can't actually do anything.
[04:59] <dr_willis> problem with turning on ANY of the transperency effects by default - is that it can 'break' systems that were working.
[04:59] <dr_willis> I dont want eye candy. I disable it all. :)
[05:00] <ardchoille> same
[05:00] <hero> they slow me down
[05:00] <dr_willis> I want more panel applets. not more desktop-widgets...
[05:00] <ardchoille> Ditto
[05:00] <dr_willis> Ive yet to see how 'transparency' helps me bee more productive.
[05:00] <gumjo> same here
[05:00] <ardchoille> I have so many windows open that I rarely see my desktop
[05:01] <dr_willis> ardchoille,  i always keep them maxamized myself
[05:01] <nosrednaekim> ok, w/e. I just think the default theme looks crappy and doesn't show off KDE (no offense to the person who made it)
[05:01] <dr_willis> constantly slapping window users in the back of the head.. "Maxamize your *#*&@*&@ window so you are actually USING your 24" wide monitor dude...
[05:01] <dr_willis> :)
[05:01] <ardchoille> hahaha
[05:02] <ardchoille> dr_willis: Is there a seting that makes ALL windows open maximised by default?
[05:02] <ardchoille> That owuld be cool.
[05:02] <dr_willis> ardchoille,  not seen that in KDe. It might be doable.. but that can cause issues.
[05:02] <yotux> why would my download not meet checksum values?
[05:02] <dr_willis> MatchBox is a window manager (and others) that can do that. in a decently smart way.
[05:02] <ardchoille> yotux: Downloads can sometimes be corrupted
[05:03] <dr_willis> It can get annoying when a file save dialog gets forced tobe mazamized.. and screws up the layout
[05:03] <nosrednaekim> beryl can do it too.
[05:03] <yotux> is that a normal thing sometimes
[05:03] <ardchoille> dr_willis: Oh, yeah, didn't think about file save/save as dialogs
[05:03] <ardchoille> yotux: It happens
[05:03] <jthomas> right-click the top and make the Window Settings > Geometry always maximize.  But I think its bad!  if Unix is supposed to have a lot of smaller progs working together, that would include those with windows; why full screen them if you might want to see others?
[05:03] <nosrednaekim> in beryl you can tell it which types of windows to start maximized
[05:05] <yotux> ardchoille:  Learned today why it is important to run md5sum,  I have a bad ISO for kubuntu
[05:05] <ardchoille> yotux: Yeah
[05:05] <yotux> ardchoille:  thanks for the info
[05:06] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[05:06] <germanjew> !mp3
[05:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:08] <ardchoille> Is there a way to make the cursor disappear after a few seconds of typing?
[05:12] <cs5> can anyone help me i did a dist-upgrade from dapper to edgy and now i cant boot my ubuntu. I am broken and desperate for a quick fix.
[05:12] <germanjew> !3g
[05:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:12] <r00t_> cs5: what do you mean you cant boot
[05:12] <zombielion> im trying to install cinelerra im needing to install these files libmpeg3hv libquicktimehvim working on the mpeg one now. im not good at installing tar files this is my first time. it is telling me 22 unexpected operator and 29 unexpected operater when i ./configure what does this mean
[05:13] <cs5> I am running live because it sits frozen after the initialization
[05:13] <cs5> it loads all, then stops
[05:13] <germanjew> how can set up internet (dailup) on my laptop (its a simcard in my pc)
[05:13] <cs5> at kubuntu screen with loading bar
[05:13] <r00t_> im still haveing problems with my K-menu bar not showing up
[05:14] <SlimeyPete> how long have you waited, cs5? networking problems can sometmes make the system hang for several minutes
[05:14] <cs5> 15 minutes
[05:14] <SlimeyPete> ah. that's long enough :)
[05:14] <cs5> i thought so too
[05:14] <cs5> :)
[05:15] <r00t_> any one have a idea of how to geet my menu working again?or could i install a difrent type of k-menu?
[05:15] <cs5> it asked about ntv? all or none or somesuch, i said all and i believe that might be the problem, i am not using raid drives.
[05:15] <cs5> or nvm? sound familiar?
[05:15] <jhutchins_lt> !install
[05:15] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[05:15] <r00t_> !xbox
[05:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xbox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:16] <r00t_> does K/ubuntu have a xbox version?
[05:16] <germanjew> !ppp
[05:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ppp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:16] <germanjew> !pppoe
[05:16] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[05:20] <cs5> has anyone tried the gutsy release?
[05:20] <kamui_> how do I turn on my intel GMA 945's dual headed display in KDE?
[05:20] <ardchoille> cs5: It's still alpha, probably not a good idea unless you're planning to help test
[05:21] <sdlnxgk> how can I move nvidia config box in 800x600?? can't choose apply !!
[05:21] <cs5> i dont mind that, i tried to instal it with nothing good come of it, it didnt like the partitioning in place and it wouldnt make its own
[05:21] <cs5> the tribe 1 release
[05:21] <cs5> havent tried tribe 2 yet
[05:22] <mrEiger> why i can't start my ligitech quickcam pro4000 and avermedia tv studio 305 in kubuntu?
[05:24] <cs5> anyone know why i cant start my kubuntu after an upgrade. I did the updates succesfully, then the upgrade and kaput.
[05:25] <ThePhilosopher> hi
[05:25] <sdlnxgk> I did upgrades last night and having issues with resolution
[05:25] <ThePhilosopher> how to change a user home directory ?
[05:26] <dr_willis> change in what way?
[05:26] <cs5> i think he/she means to physically move it.
[05:26] <WhoaMann> Hi wondering if anyone can help me
[05:26] <ThePhilosopher> dr_willis, it seem that one of my account no longuer as a home directory
[05:26] <dr_willis> ThePhilosopher,  check in /home see if the dir still exists
[05:27] <ThePhilosopher> dr_willis, yea it does
[05:27] <WhoaMann> when I go to the boot of install option on ubuntu it goes for a while then says x  server not found
[05:27] <WhoaMann> Something about screen not found as well
[05:27] <ThePhilosopher> dr_willis, but i get this when i try to log on "No directory,looging with HOME=/
[05:28] <dr_willis> see what the permissions are for  the /home and /home/username
[05:29] <dr_willis> drwxr-xr-x   4 root   root    4096 2007-05-18 22:59 home
[05:29] <ThePhilosopher> rw-r--r--
[05:29] <dr_willis> drwxr-xr-x 55 willis willis 4096 2007-07-11 11:23 willis
[05:29] <dr_willis> looks like your perms are incorrect
[05:29] <ThePhilosopher> dr_willis, yea ...
[05:30] <ThePhilosopher> what the correct ones ?
[05:30] <dr_willis> drwxr-xr-x   - I would GUess. since thats whats on mine. :)
[05:30] <ThePhilosopher> dr_willis, lol k on it
[05:31] <cs5> nevermind, i'll reformat/re-install then i guess
[05:31] <ardchoille> ThePhilosopher: are the perms rw-r--r-- for a directory?
[05:31] <jhutchins_lt> visudo
[05:31] <jhutchins_lt> Er, vipw
[05:32] <login_> Hi guys , i have a question for the developers, I am making an ubuntu deriative but i came into troubles when i compiled my own kernel . My pc needs to do acpi=off to boot but ounce i boot , no usb slots are detected . This happens on every other OS except ubuntu , I wanted to ask what patches are you added t othe kernel or what did you do to it to make it not have to do acpi=off or make it detect my usb 2.0 slots?
[05:32] <ThePhilosopher> ardchoille, yea
[05:32] <ThePhilosopher> dr_willis, thanks probleme solve
[05:32] <ardchoille> ThePhilosopher: If a directory has rw-r--r-- for its perms, then it's wrong. Have you been running recursive chmod as rot?
[05:32] <ardchoille> *root
[05:32] <login_> Hi guys , i have a question for the developers, I am making an ubuntu deriative but i came into troubles when i compiled my own kernel . My pc needs to do acpi=off to boot but ounce i boot , no usb slots are detected . This happens on every other OS except ubuntu , I wanted to ask what patches are you added t othe kernel or what did you do to it to make it not have to do acpi=off or make it detect my usb 2.0 slots?
[05:32] <ThePhilosopher> ardchoille, i think so i did something but i dont really now what lol
[05:32] <ardchoille> ThePhilosopher: most dirs must be a+x
[05:33] <jhutchins_lt> login_: Don't think that's a question for #kubuntu.  You might try #ubuntu-devel, but don't repeat yourself like that, be very patient.
[05:33] <ardchoille> ThePhilosopher: Be careful when you run recursive commands that remove the execute bit. If you mistakenly type a-x  instead of o-x you will discover that you have locked yourself out: chmod removes execute permissions from the parent directory. This will remove access to the affected directories.
[05:33] <login_> ok , thank you jhutchins . I will also wait here to see if the users n othe anwser to my problem
[05:33] <ThePhilosopher> ardchoille,  I see thanks
[05:33] <ardchoille> ThePhilosopher: http://imacgregor.com/Linux/LinuxFilePermissions
[05:34] <ThePhilosopher> ok
[05:34] <ThePhilosopher> i want to change the file /etc/hosts
[05:34] <ThePhilosopher> how do i do it ?
[05:35] <dr_willis> edit it with a text editor , with root permissions.
[05:35] <ardchoille> sudo vim /etc/hosts
[05:35] <ardchoille> or nano
[05:35] <ThePhilosopher> okk great
[05:35] <ardchoille> lol
[05:35] <dr_willis> that hopefully TEACH the person what they need to do.
[05:35] <ThePhilosopher> ardchoille, i come from slackware and this sudo thing really drive me nut
[05:35] <dr_willis> :)
[05:35] <dr_willis> sudo thing?
[05:35] <dr_willis> heh..
[05:35] <ardchoille> !sudo | ThePhilosopher
[05:35] <dr_willis> its not that different.
[05:35] <ubotu> ThePhilosopher: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:36] <jhutchins_lt> !kdesu
[05:36] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[05:36] <dr_willis> !info sux
[05:36] <ubotu> sux: wrapper around su which will transfer your X credentials. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-3.2 (feisty), package size 8 kB, installed size 64 kB
[05:36] <dr_willis> from the shell its about identical. for Shell apps.
[05:36] <ThePhilosopher> ubotu, i know but i just dont find very natural or more secure...
[05:36] <ardchoille> !bot
[05:36] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:37] <ardchoille> ThePhilosopher: can't brute force a locked root account ;)
[05:37] <ThePhilosopher> ardchoille, well you can do it with anoter acount
[05:38] <ardchoille> ThePhilosopher: Yes, but you would need the username
[05:38] <ardchoille> And I don't know the usernames on your box
[05:38] <dr_willis> It  better security Practice...
[05:38] <ThePhilosopher> ardchoille, good point...
[05:38] <dr_willis> thus that makes it more 'secure' in the long run.
[05:39] <ThePhilosopher> ardchoille, but it would simplier to just forbid remote loggin for root
[05:39] <ardchoille> I didn't like sudo at first, but I wouldn't run without it now.
[05:39] <dr_willis> Its hard to be against a 'keep things as  secure as possible' mentality.
[05:39] <tzanger> hmm
[05:39] <login_> anyone have a nanwser to my question?
[05:39] <tzanger> the desktop install CD doesn't know much about LVM... do I need the alternate CD for that?
[05:40] <dr_willis> Unless its done in a STUPID way like MS did with that  'permission dialog' thing.
[05:40] <ardchoille> lol
[05:40] <login_> anyone have an anwser to my question?
[05:40] <ardchoille> !patience
[05:40] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:40] <dr_willis> I dident even see a question.
[05:40] <dr_willis> :)
[05:40] <login_> but the question is lost
[05:40] <jim88> hi again, I need help ... have been having trouble not being able to update for over a month ... I think my archives maybe corrupted ... anyone know if there is there a way to rebuild archives ... my apt-get cannot update
[05:40] <login_> please scroll up
[05:40] <dr_willis> !kernel
[05:40] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[05:40] <login_> the people wont make me repeat but the question will be lost now :(
[05:41] <dr_willis> thats about all i know about kernels under ubuntu. not had to mess with them since ive started using Ubintu. :)
[05:41] <ardchoille> login_: you might try the developers channel
[05:41] <ardchoille> dr_willis: same
[05:41] <login_> i know how to build it but ubuntu added patches to it or something that makes my pc work , for example , my usb slots are detected and i dont have to do acpi=off
[05:48] <sdlnxgk> Grrrrrrrrr
[05:48] <sdlnxgk> can't change my resolution :(
[05:49] <sdlnxgk> everything seems to be ok but it's running in 640x480
[05:49] <istoka> me2 :\
[05:49] <istoka> the same here >.<
[05:49] <sdlnxgk> istoka did you do the update last night?
[05:50] <istoka> well no :P
[05:50] <sdlnxgk> after I did the update last night my resolution was hosed
[05:50] <istoka> i've installed the kubuntu this morning :)
[05:50] <sdlnxgk> oh ok
[05:50] <istoka> but i'll download the updates this night....
[05:50] <sdlnxgk> hmmmmmmmmmm
[05:50] <istoka> but how i can change the resolution ?
[05:50] <istoka> i'm new :P i don't know anything about kubuntu :)
[05:50] <sdlnxgk> start button> system settings
[05:51] <sdlnxgk> then choose monitor
[05:51] <sdlnxgk> great  peeps here for sure
[05:51] <istoka> you mean the console ?
[05:51] <sdlnxgk> I can't figure out how to move the config box around when in 640x480
[05:51] <istoka> i'm just installing codecs yay :D
[05:52] <sdlnxgk> no not console
[05:52] <sdlnxgk> bottom left start button
[05:53] <istoka> ah nevermind
[05:53] <istoka> my kubuntu is in bulgarian ><
[05:53] <sdlnxgk> ahhhhhh
[05:54] <istoka> i thought it will be easier for the first time :D
[05:54] <sdlnxgk> anyone here can tell me how to toggle around or move around in 640x480??
[05:54] <Kr4t05> Is anyone else having lag issues with updating packages.
[05:54] <Kr4t05> ?
[05:54] <sdlnxgk> was really easy for me just install and go
[05:54] <Kr4t05> security.ubuntu.com is really slow for me, today.
[05:55] <ardchoille> That repo is having issues
[05:55] <Kr4t05> Yeah.... I noticed. :P
[05:55] <Kr4t05> I think I might try a mirror, shortly.
[05:56] <ricky_ds> hi, I have around 20 packages in my update list, but it won't update. I tried a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade on the shell and it seems to hang when connecting to security.ubuntu.com (82.211.81.138)
[05:56] <sdlnxgk> ya it's lagging big time
[05:56] <ricky_ds> Kr4t05: ah, I'm not alone in the boat :)
[05:56] <istoka> try a mirror ? :)
[05:56] <ardchoille> Is there a way to make the cursor disappear after a few seconds of typing?
[05:56] <istoka> i've downloaded it without any problems
[05:57] <sdlnxgk> hmmmm not sure why my resolution is hosed for
[05:57] <ardchoille> !fixres
[05:57] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:57] <sdlnxgk> everything seems write and I went back to my config file
[05:57] <Xbehave> i have a very poor internet conection but ive had the same problem today
[05:58] <sdlnxgk> ardchoille, thanks will give that a try since nothing else seems to be working
[05:59] <ardchoille> sdlnxgk: You're welcome :)
[06:02] <jhutchins_lt> !ask
[06:02] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:03] <kamui_> anyone using dual displays?
[06:04] <ardchoille> !dual-head
[06:04] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[06:04] <istoka> bye guys!!!!
[06:04] <dr_willis> On myu Nvidia card - Using a DVI monitor and tv out - right now.
[06:04] <istoka> im going to watch the volleyball match between Bulgaria and Brazil
[06:04] <istoka> it's 1:1 now lol :D
[06:04] <kamui_> I need some advice from an actual successful dual head user
[06:04] <istoka> we'll crush brazil :Pp
[06:04] <istoka> bye !!! :D
[06:04] <kamui_> namely intel chipset
[06:04] <dr_willis> nvidia-xconfg --twinview
[06:04] <dr_willis> :)
[06:04] <kamui_> yea, I know nvidia rocks
[06:04] <kamui_> I have a great working 6800 at home
[06:05] <sdlnxgk> dr_willis, having issues getting back into 1920x1200 res
[06:05] <kamui_> I got dual display working here at work on my GMA 945, the issue Imhaving is that Im not sure if Its possible to have both displays DRI enabled.  So far only display 0 is dri enabled, and I DONT want to span the desktop
[06:05] <styx-tdo> hi my beryl doesn't like me.. no decoration. nvidia 7300 GS. googleing and changing xorg didn't help. dual-screen setup with 2 times 1280*1024
[06:06] <kaic> wich package should i install to compile?
[06:06] <ardchoille> styx-tdo: join #ubuntu-effects
[06:06] <ardchoille> kaic: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:07] <tzanger> this is going ot be quite the change from slackware -> kubuntu
[06:07] <tzanger> I'm gonna try to make it stick though
[06:07] <sdlnxgk> how can you scroll in 640x480
[06:07] <ardchoille> sdlnxgk: Does it help to move the mouse past the screen edge?
[06:07] <ardchoille> It sometimes heolps
[06:08] <sdlnxgk> ardchoille, nope doesn't help can't move box to check resolution then click apply
[06:09] <ardchoille> sdlnxgk: alt+click and drag the dialog?
[06:09] <sdlnxgk> I did this before but can't remember what I did
[06:09] <sdlnxgk> let me try
[06:09] <ardchoille> I use that to move windows instead of using the titlebar
[06:09] <sdlnxgk> dude that was it :)
[06:09] <ardchoille> :)
[06:09] <sdlnxgk> move windows didn't move it far enough but that worked awesome :)
[06:10] <sdlnxgk> i'll have to remember that quick key command :D
[06:10] <dr_willis> yep. :)
[06:10] <dr_willis> handy
[06:10] <dr_willis> I use the 'move' menu item on the task manager all the time also.
[06:11] <dr_willis> when the windows pop up on the wrong display
[06:11] <ardchoille> sdlnxgk: There are lots more key combos and you can make your own:  kcontrol > Regional > Keyboard Shortcuts
[06:12] <ardchoille> I'd be lost without the slt key
[06:12] <ardchoille> s/slt/alt/
[06:13] <sdlnxgk> now I gotta remember how to get my SLI mode back
[06:15] <sdlnxgk> brb
[06:21] <nozkan_> hi
[06:21] <ardchoille> hi
[06:22] <nozkan_> kubuntu limeware and dogguard apps my problem limeware connected but not download file
[06:22] <kaic> when i try to use cmd make [sudo make setup check]  it returns there are no rules for target setup. why?
[06:23] <ardchoille> kaic: Try ./configure
[06:24] <ardchoille> kaic: And you rarely need sudo for the make command
[06:24] <ardchoille> You more likely need sudo for "make install"
[06:24] <nozkan_> Trke konuabilen varm ?
[06:25] <ardchoille> !tk
[06:26] <kaic> ardchoille: i'm a beginner.. who sould i use ./configure?
[06:27] <ardchoille> kaic: Compiling from source?
[06:27] <ardchoille> kaic: Many source packages include a configure script, so the usual compile steps would be: ./configure, make, sudo make install
[06:27] <ardchoille> kaic: But
[06:28] <ardchoille> I would recommend you read any README, INSTALL or NOTES files first.
[06:29] <ardchoille> !limewire
[06:30] <onechard> use frostwire instead
[06:30] <ardchoille> kaic: Also, it's worth checking the repos or docs before compiling from source as many times you'll find the app you want is just an apt-get install away
[06:31] <ardchoille> Oh, the bot is gone :(
[06:31] <ardchoille> onechard: I thought maybe you took over for the bot for a minute
[06:31] <login_> Hi guys , i have a question for the developers, I am making an ubuntu deriative but i came into troubles when i compiled my own kernel . My pc needs to do acpi=off to boot but ounce i boot , no usb slots are detected . This happens on every other OS except ubuntu , I wanted to ask what patches are you added t othe kernel or what did you do to it to make it not have to do acpi=off or make it detect my usb 2.0 slots
[06:32] <sdlnxgk> !sli
[06:32] <ardchoille> sdlnxgk: The bot is gone
[06:33] <sdlnxgk> Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[06:33] <sdlnxgk> lol
[06:33] <sdlnxgk> was like WTF
[06:33] <ardchoille> likely routing issues with the network
[06:33] <jussi01> !netsplit
[06:33] <TeraDyne> jussi01: the bot is gone
[06:33] <sdlnxgk> trying to find out  where to put Option "SLI" "True" at
[06:33] <jussi01> I just noticed...
[06:34] <TeraDyne> login_: Might want to ask in #ubuntu-devel or #kubuntu-devel
[06:34] <ardchoille> TeraDyne: He's there, probably not getting any replies.
[06:35] <ardchoille> Tho, that is a specialised question.
[06:35] <ubuntu> ciao
[06:36] <ubuntu> uuuuuuuuuuuu
[06:37] <MidMark> someone can help me with this cdrom that literaly disappears after installatio?
[06:37] <MidMark> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/124187
[06:38] <TeraDyne> you want to hear somethign really odd? I se the bot in the devel channels...
[06:38] <ardchoille> Maybe they're wroking on it.. upgrading or something
[06:38] <germanjew> !kdm
[06:38] <TeraDyne> ardchoille: probably.
[06:38] <TeraDyne> germanjew: No bot
[06:38] <kilrae> !wheresthebot
[06:39] <germanjew> TeraDyne: :(
[06:39] <TeraDyne> hmmm... I wonder...
[06:39] <germanjew> !whereisthebot
[06:39] <kilrae> !showthyself
[06:39] <kilrae> maybe it's just hiding
[06:40] <kilrae> !ls -a | grep bot
[06:40] <TeraDyne> Well... msging the bot didn't work...
[06:40] <Hobbsee> no bot back at all yet
[06:40] <TeraDyne> Hobbsee: It's in the devel channels.
[06:40] <r00t_> GRRRRR still no k-menu,noone has any idea why my kmenu disapered and how to get it back?
[06:40] <fdoving> we depend on it too heavily.
[06:40] <ardchoille> r00t_: Is kicker working?>
[06:40] <r00t_> anyone know where streamripper saves files to?
[06:40] <Hobbsee> and ubuntu, for some reason
[06:41] <kilrae> r00t_? add it to a panel?
[06:41] <Hobbsee> fdoving: it was worse without it
[06:41] <fdoving> use http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi instead.
[06:41] <fdoving> or temporarily.
[06:41] <r00t_> ardchoille: i belive so,im not sure what kicker is but when i type it in it says its running
[06:41] <ardchoille> r00t_: it's the panel
[06:41] <ardchoille> r00t_: if kicker isn't running: dcop kicker default restart
[06:42] <TeraDyne> Maybe I should hop into #ubuntu and ask them to give the bot back to us...
[06:43] <TeraDyne> err... #ubuntu-devel
[06:43] <r00t_> ardchoille: when i do that the k-menu pops up for s split second and disapeers
[06:43] <r00t_> kilrae: theres no menu,not that the k button is missing its the whole menu bar
[06:43] <jhutchins_lt> TeraDyne: done.
[06:43] <r00t_> ardchoille: i uninstalled kicker and reinstalled it also that didint work
[06:44] <ardchoille> r00t_: Right, kicker is messing up somehow, which is what I suspected
[06:44] <TeraDyne> jhutchins_lt: ?
[06:44] <r00t_> ardchoille: anything i can try?or an alternate menu ?
[06:45] <login_> Hi guys , i have a question for the developers, I am making an ubuntu deriative but i came into troubles when i compiled my own kernel . My pc needs to do acpi=off to boot but ounce i boot , no usb slots are detected . This happens on every other OS except ubuntu , I wanted to ask what patches are you added t othe kernel or what did you do to it to make it not have to do acpi=off or make it detect my usb 2.0 slots
[06:45] <r00t_> wait superkaramba has something like a menu right?
[06:45] <ardchoille> r00t_: You can put the apps menu in the desktop right-click menu until you get the kicker problem sorted
[06:46] <ardchoille> r00t_: kcontrol: Desktop > Behavior and look in the Mouse Button Actions section
[06:46] <ardchoille> But, I don't know how to fix the kicker problem
[06:47] <ardchoille> Actually, my kicker isn't even running, I don't use it.
[06:49] <jhutchins_lt> login_: 1) We very rarely get developers here.  2) Even the devel echos are dead this morning, so the devels are probably busy elsewhere.
[06:50] <jhutchins_lt> login_: You're probably going to do a lot better on the devel forums/mailing lists with a question like that.
[06:51] <r00t_> ardchoille: thanks got the mouse/menu thing setup,but what does kicker do exactly?
[06:51] <r00t_> !kicker
[06:52] <TeraDyne> r00t_: No bot.
[06:52] <r00t_> ! :(
[06:52] <r00t_> TeraDyne: why?
[06:52] <r00t_> upgradeing his circuts?
[06:53] <TeraDyne> r00t_: No idea. It's only in the *-devel channels right now.
[06:53] <TeraDyne> r00t_: Even the guys in #ubuntu are without the bot.
[06:53] <ardchoille> r00t_: kicker is the panel, it holds the kmenu, applets, etc
[06:54] <TeraDyne> fdoving: thanks
[06:54] <fdoving> you're welcome.
[06:54] <r00t_> anyone know where streamtuner saves ripped files?
[06:54] <ardchoille> The fact that ubotu is only in the devel channels leads me to believe that the bot is undergoing maintenance or upgrade
[06:55] <fdoving> ardchoille: no, it's not authenticated to nickserv properly, thus reaches the channel limit. when it's logged in, it's allowed to be in loads of channels.
[06:55] <Soul> does anyone know how to set a veoh channel in democracy player
[06:56] <r00t_> anyone ever use granular OS?
[06:56] <ardchoille> fdoving: Ah, yes, I see.. he isn't id'd
[06:57] <sdlnxgk> who is running in SLI mode???
[06:57] <sdlnxgk> !sli
[06:57] <sdlnxgk> hmmmm bot is still  down
[06:57] <r00t_> whats sli?
[06:57] <Soul> does anyone know how to set a veoh as a channel in democracy player
[06:58] <r00t_> SLI = Sexy Linux user Inspector?
 Sorry, I don't know anything about sli - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cg
[06:59] <TeraDyne> As they said on The GNU\Linux User Show: Linux ISO = an Incredibly Stupid Operator of Linux. XD
[06:59] <TeraDyne> ardchoille: Nice.
[07:00] <ardchoille> :)
[07:02] <sdlnxgk> !sli
[07:02] <sdlnxgk> where is the bot when you need it
[07:02] <sdlnxgk> lol
 Sorry, I don't know anything about sli - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cg
[07:02] <sdlnxgk> lol
[07:04] <TeraDyne> ardchoille: You missed an "i" at the end of the url...
[07:04] <ardchoille> s/cg/cgi/
[07:04] <ubunturos> ardchoille: and Konqueror returned a 404 ;)
[07:04] <ardchoille> ubunturos: due to the missing i
[07:04] <ubunturos> ardchoille: yes :)
[07:06] <germanjew> like eg. hardware appears in /dev where does modems appear?
[07:07] <jhutchins_lt> k, ops have been notified about the bot but nothing can be done right now.
[07:07] <germanjew> i've got a dell latitude d620, i'm bit sure what my modem dev is
[07:08] <jhutchins_lt> germanjew: Modems are generally /dev/ttys#
[07:08] <jhutchins_lt> germanjew: Even if they're soft modems or usb, they need to emulate a serial port, which is how you talk to them,
[07:09] <germanjew> jhutchins_lt: its a internal modem it uses a simcard to connect
[07:10] <germanjew> jhutchins_lt: there is 17 ttys devs should i just go though all of em?
[07:11] <jhutchins_lt> germanjew: Well, that would be one approach.
[07:11] <jhutchins_lt> germanjew: It would logically attach to the first one available, but sometimes there are other factors.
[07:11] <jhutchins_lt> germanjew: You might find information on what it is and what it think it's doing in /var/log/messages or dmesg.
[07:12] <jhutchins_lt> Also googling for the specific card/chipset and linux would probably tell you if there is a driver needed to get it to work.
[07:13] <jhutchins_lt> germanjew: minicom is a pretty common tool to mess with serial port stuff, but there are others as well.
[07:13] <jhutchins_lt> germanjew: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[07:19] <MarcC> can somebody tell me how to install this in Kubuntu?
[07:19] <MarcC> http://wiki.tcl.tk/13404
[07:20] <nalioth> !bot
[07:20] <ubot3> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:22] <jhutchins_lt> !find tkgamepack
[07:22] <ubot3> Package/file tkgamepack does not exist in edgy
[07:22] <TeraDyne> O_O;
[07:22] <TeraDyne> old bot...
[07:22] <jhutchins_lt> MarcC: I think you'll find a lot of the games are available in various *buntu packages, but not that particular bundle.
[07:22] <MarcC> dang, I'm addicted to that Collapse game! :'-/
[07:23] <jhutchins_lt> !find collapse
[07:23] <ubot3> File collapse found in pork, r-cran-nlme
[07:23] <jhutchins_lt> !info pork
[07:23] <ubot3> pork: Console-based AOL Instant Messenger & IRC client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.8.1-1 (edgy), package size 254 kB, installed size 1648 kB
[07:23] <jhutchins_lt> !info r-cran-nlme
[07:23] <ubot3> r-cran-nlme: GNU R package for (non-)linear mixed effects models. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.74-1 (edgy), package size 1172 kB, installed size 6244 kB
[07:23] <MarcC> lol
[07:24] <MarcC> maybe I'll look on softpedia
[07:24] <jhutchins_lt> !build | MarcC: This is about installing from tar.gz (tarballs).
[07:24] <ubot3> MarcC: This is about installing from tar.gz (tarballs).: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:24] <germanjew> thanks for your help jhutchins_lt
[07:24] <jhutchins_lt> germanjew: Did you get anywhere with it?
[07:24] <MarcC> jhutchins, thanks...I'll see where I can get.
[07:25] <MarcC> is there a way to convert dotpups from Puppy Linux to .debs?
[07:25] <germanjew> jhutchins_lt: no, got some thing to eat ;p
[07:25] <sdlnxgk> !info sli
[07:25] <ubot3> Package sli does not exist in edgy
[07:25] <sdlnxgk> !info Fiesty SLi
[07:25] <ubot3> Package fiesty does not exist in edgy
[07:25] <jhutchins_lt> sdlnxgk: What's an sli?
[07:26] <tino097> how to show desktop icons, e.g my computer ?
[07:26] <sdlnxgk> jhutchins, SLI mode is here your running two video cards with on monitor
[07:26] <sdlnxgk> jhutchins, you also have to have a mobo that supports sli mode
[07:26] <MarcC> yesssssss
[07:26] <jhutchins_lt> tino097: Right click, create new link, have it point to ~/
[07:27] <MarcC> you can extract dotpups with Ark!
[07:27] <sdlnxgk> can't figure out where to type the option for SLI mode in my xorg.config  file
[07:27] <MarcC> got the game from here and ran the game file inside
[07:27] <MarcC> http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=14618#14618
[07:27] <MarcC> it worked! :D
[07:28] <fred1599> hello
[07:28] <fred1599> you received me?
[07:28] <MarcC> <robot voice> hello
[07:28] <fred1599> yes
[07:28] <fred1599> goof
[07:29] <fred1599> good
[07:29] <MarcC> <robot voice> am receiving you
[07:29] <fred1599> yes thank
[07:29] <MarcC> no problem fred1599
[07:29] <fred1599> it's the first time, that i use irc
[07:30] <MarcC> fred1599: welcome
[07:30] <fred1599> thanks
[07:30] <tino097> jhutchins_lt: thanks
[07:30] <fred1599> i'm french and you?
[07:30] <MarcC> fred1599: ami
[07:30] <MarcC> btw fred1599, there is also #kubuntu-fr I think.
[07:31] <tameekawhite> has anyone done anything with unionfs and ubuntu
[07:31] <fred1599> des personnes parlent-elles franais?
[07:32] <fred1599> speak french?
[07:32] <fred1599> irc ubuntu french?
[07:32] <MarcC> fred1599: joinez #kubuntu-fr :)
[07:32] <fred1599> thks
[07:32] <fred1599> :)
[07:39] <MarcC> is there a bluetooth client for Kubuntu?
[07:39] <MarcC> !bluetooth
[07:39] <ubot3> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[07:42] <family> whenever I try to play a video in kaffeine, the video is messed up.. it has a bunch of random lines and stuff.. any ideas?
[07:42] <TeraDyne> family: it might be that the video is damaged. Have you troed playing with another video player?
[07:42] <family> TeraDyne: yes, it does this with all videos
[07:42] <family> TeraDyne: other plays can play it all right
[07:42] <TeraDyne> family: It's probably just Kaffeine acting up. Might want to submit a bug report.
[07:42] <TeraDyne> Wow. Server problems...
[07:43] <MarcC> family: just curious - what other players did you try?
[07:44] <family> MarcC: I tried VLC and mplayer.. I'm trying Totem with gstreamer right now..
[07:44] <MarcC> family: try xine
[07:44] <family> MarcC: totem/gstreamer works fine.. I think it's an xine problem
[07:45] <MarcC> family: see if you can fiddle with the xine preferences...sometimes that helps
[07:45] <family> MarcC: how do I get to the xine prefs?
[07:45] <MarcC> you can choose a different output engine, etc.
[07:45] <MarcC> right-click in xine
[07:45] <MarcC> then you have to enable "advanced" mode or something, I think
[07:45] <Lacrymology> how can i stop new windows from stealing focus?
[07:46] <tzanger> woo, kubuntu
[07:46] <tzanger> now to figure out where the hell the stupid-ass bouncy busy cursor setting is
[07:46] <MarcC> Lacrymology: I read this somewhere: "KDE has the handy "Focus stealing prevention level" slider, that you can crank up to make popups less invasive. Unfortunately, GNOME does not have this. And, for various reasons, I need to use GNOME, not KDE."
[07:47] <MarcC> so it would appear KDE has this feature
[07:47] <family> MarcC: for the record, xine-ui has this problem as well
[07:47] <MarcC> family: good, then it's probably a xine problem...as I said, see if you can change the output method in prefs.
[07:47] <MarcC> try OpenGL, etc.
[07:48] <daoudi5> hello
[07:48] <TeraDyne> tzanger: In the KMenu, edit the menu and turn off the "Enable Lauch Feedback" option for each item.
[07:48] <jkmz52> Is there a quick way to find out my current kernel version form the terminal?
[07:48] <TeraDyne> jkmz52: "uname -a"
[07:48] <family> MarcC: I can't find the place to choose the experience level
[07:48] <tzanger> aha yes lkmenu
[07:49] <MarcC> family: it's in there...(i don't have xine-ui installed atm) but you'll find it...keep looking and perhaps resize the window
[07:49] <Rockj> I seem to loose network connection each time my laptopscreen goes black (after inactivity), why is that?
[07:49] <family> MarcC: I found it
[07:49] <jkmz52> thanks
[07:49] <r00t_> so i have kubuntu installed on my usb drive,is there anyway i can transfer it to my laptop?
[07:49] <Rockj> is it knetworkmanager's fault?
[07:50] <MarcC> r00t_: I would just copy the home dir and install Kubuntu as normal on the laptop
[07:50] <MarcC> but I'm a newb at such things
[07:50] <MarcC> at least your kde settings will be the same, anyway
[07:51] <r00t_> MarcC: any other way?i dont have a install cd
[07:52] <daoudi5> place how to translate my kubuntu 7.04 into french language
[07:52] <MarcC> r00t_: well, you're connected to the network, so there's that way, but I don't know how to transfer the entire system over
[07:52] <daoudi5> ?
[07:52] <MarcC> daoudi5: /join #kubuntu-fr
[07:53] <family> MarcC: changing the OpenGL renderer to Image_Pipeline worked. thanks :)
[07:53] <ekim|irc-> Hi
[07:53] <MarcC> family: great :)
[07:53] <daoudi5> how to join kubuntu-fr
[07:53] <ekim|irc-> Has anone tried to resize a compressed ntfs partition in the installer ?
[07:53] <daoudi5> ?
[07:54] <MarcC> daoudi5: inputez "/join #kubuntu-fr"
[07:54] <MarcC> lol, inputez :D
[07:55] <Rockj> is there any setting anywhere in ubuntu which makes it deactivate network connection after idle time?
[07:56] <tzanger> where do I configure the launch notification?  I like luanch notification, I just don want the bouncy cursor
[07:56] <MarcC> daoudi5: entrer la commande /join #kubuntu-fr
[07:56] <MarcC> ah, he made it
[07:58] <TeraDyne> tzanger: Alt + F2 and use "kcontrol" as the command. Search for "launch feedback". It'll be in the results, underneath the Keywors box on the left side.
[07:59] <tzanger> TeraDyne: aha
[07:59] <TeraDyne> tzanger: Choose "No Busy Cursor" in the dropdown box to turn it of.
[07:59] <tzanger> the system settings in the main menu isn the full set
[07:59] <TeraDyne> off*
[07:59] <tzanger> yes I am a longtime kde user, but this generalized setup was throwing me
[07:59] <tzanger> thanks!
[08:00] <TeraDyne> tzanger: Many of us have changed our "System Settings" entry to point to "kcontrol".
[08:00] <tzanger> TeraDyne: sounds like a good idea to me!
[08:00] <daoudi5> please is encarta version for kubuntu?
[08:01] <rjune> encarta? the closest thing to encarto for kubuntu is http://wikipedia.com
[08:01] <rjune> gah, http://wikipedia.org
[08:02] <tzanger> hmm, where do I adjust the keyboard lahyout (not in kde, system-wide) ? my apostrophe isn apostropheing very well
[08:04] <pyrotix_> just use single quotes instead :)
[08:04] <daoudi5> ok
[08:04] <daoudi5> thanks
[08:04] <jhutchins> daoudi5: http://encarta.msn.com/artcenter_/browse.html
[08:04] <daoudi5> but for windows there are encarta which not wikipedia
[08:05] <jhutchins> daoudi5: I don't know of any locally-installable encyclopaedias for linux.  Some of the windows ones work under wine.
[08:06] <daoudi5> ok
[08:07] <tzanger> I need to change the system-wide keyboard layout from us-intl
[08:08] <tzanger> hmm dpkg-reconfigure console-data isn right for kubuntu
[08:09] <Ulrieke> Hallo, ich benutze Kopete und htte da mal eine Frage, kennt sich damit jemand aus?
[08:09] <jhutchins> Ulrieke: Mein deutsch is nicht genau.
[08:09] <jhutchins> !de | Ulrieke
[08:09] <ubot3> Ulrieke: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:10] <Ulrieke> ok
[08:10] <Ulrieke> no problem
[08:10] <tzanger> console-setup for kubuntu
[08:10] <tzanger> hopefully that works better
[08:10] <fatihciroglu> hi , which key-combo must i use for desktop-change ?
[08:11] <Ulrieke> i use kopete and i want to change the style of the mesages
[08:11] <jhutchins> tzanger: Linuix is a bit schizophrenic about whether it's a centrally configured multi-user system or a GUI configured single-user system.
[08:11] <tzanger> :-)
[08:12] <tzanger> yes, I no newbie to linux, just to debian nad kubuntu :-)
[08:13] <ardchoille> fatihciroglu: You can set that up in kcontrol
[08:13] <ardchoille> kcontrol > Region > Keyboard Shortcuts
[08:14] <fatihciroglu> ardchoille: thanks man. i m using ubuntu now. how can i change it in ubuntu ?
[08:14] <vzduch> Ulrieke: it's been a while, but iirc it's in the options.. Appearance or so, it has a number of preconfigured styles to choose from
[08:14] <jhutchins> ardchoille: Tjeu
[08:14] <ardchoille> fatihciroglu: Don't know, I don't use gnome. perhaps ask in #ubuntu
[08:14] <jhutchins> ardchoille: Sorry: They'd probably know in #ubuntu.
[08:16] <gmh33> how do I change the system clock in KDE from reading 24-hour format, to 12-hour
[08:16] <gmh33> ?
[08:16] <fatihciroglu> ardchoille: thanks for support man. good evenings
[08:16] <ardchoille> fatihciroglu: You're welcome :)
[08:17] <gmh33> nvm :)
[08:17] <ardchoille> gmh33: right click the clock, choose Date & Time Format, go to the Times & Dates tab, look at the Time Format box
[08:19] <MarcC> how can I change the icon for a generic executable without changing *all* executables to have that icon?
[08:20] <ardchoille> MarcC: In the kmenu?
[08:20] <MarcC> ardchoille: desktop
[08:20] <javierf> hi there, I'm trying to use twinkle to talk using voip and it works great but microphone volume is too low... I've but it as high as possible in kmix but it doesn't have enough volume. Is there any other way to increase it
[08:20] <ardchoille> Hmm.. never ran into that
[08:21] <tzanger> javierf: check your alsa settings to see if it got any attenuation or other silliness
[08:21] <MarcC> ardchoille: it seems to work at first, but then suddenly something refreshes and all executables pick up the same icon
[08:21] <fatihciroglu> ardchoille: control + alt + arrow keys  ^^
[08:21] <tzanger> man there a lot ot upgrade off of 7.04
[08:22] <sdlnxgk> hmmmm wierd that time install SLI by default
[08:22] <ardchoille> fatihciroglu: :)
[08:22] <sdlnxgk> oh well it's up and running perfect :)
[08:22] <javierf> tzanger: i compiled last alsa version and using alsa mixer microphone seem to be at max
[08:22] <tzanger> hmm
[08:22] <tzanger> maybe something with the hardware then, mine seems to work well
[08:22] <peder_> When I try to install packages with adept or apt-get, I can't connect to the repositories!
[08:23] <javierf> tzanger: Yes i supouse it is hardware problem but now I can't change it and i wonder if it is possible to configure som kind of software extra gain
[08:23] <ardchoille> peder_: Some of the repos were having issues today
[08:24] <tzanger> javierf: sure you can amplify it in software, but that more work :-)
[08:24] <vzduch> and Freenode has issues too today
[08:24] <ardchoille> Yeah routing issues
[08:24] <javierf> tzanger: any idea how to start?
[08:25] <ardchoille> vzduch: Not sure it's just freenode: http://www.internetpulse.com/
[08:25] <tzanger> javierf: not at the moment, no
[08:26] <tzanger> hmm, is there a standard way to get rid of the se the side of the touchpad and get a scrollwheel"with kubuntu?
[08:26] <javierf> tzanger: ok thanks ;)
[08:27] <K`zan> I had to reinstall and lost a dictionary applet you can put in the panel, I can't seem to find it now, any help, pointers or suggestions MOST welcome!
[08:27] <hero> just add it again
[08:27] <ardchoille> K`zan: there's a dict applet in the Add to Panel dialog
[08:27] <K`zan> If I could find it I sure would.
[08:28] <hero> add applet to panel...
[08:28] <hero> and then it's in the applet list
[08:28] <K`zan> ardchoille: That is where I thought I found it, but it isn't there since the reinstall :-(.
[08:28] <ardchoille> hero: Is that a default applet? Or did he install something that included it?
[08:28] <hero> i think it's a default applet
[08:28] <hero> let me check
[08:28] <K`zan> ardchoille: It was in the applet list, I'm almost positive, but not showing in the fresh install :-(.
[08:29] <dhq> can some one help me with grub
[08:29] <ardchoille> K`zan: That makes me think you installed something that included it
[08:29] <hero> or maybe not :\
[08:29] <ardchoille> K`zan: Same set of apps installed now as before?
[08:29] <K`zan> Most of them, yes
[08:29] <K`zan> Looking at the add applet dialog now.
[08:29] <ardchoille> K`zan: kdeutils?
[08:30] <hero> it's not in the default applets. sorry about that.
[08:30] <ardchoille> kdeutils is the only thing I can think of
[08:30] <K`zan> I don't remember installing anything special, I just picked it out of the applets.  Will verify kdeutils are installed, just a sec.
[08:30] <hero> kdict?
[08:30] <ardchoille> that may be it
[08:30] <ardchoille> K`zan: apt-cache policy kdict
[08:31] <K`zan> It wasn't installed, installing now, thanks VERY much.  I'm a lousy speller sometimes and that thing sure helps!
[08:31] <peder_> Does Opera "support" KDE (use KDE libraries)?
[08:31] <dhq> hello guys i am on a kubuntu live cd i need to restore my grub kubuntu is installed on /dev/hda7 so please help me out
[08:31] <ardchoille> !grub
[08:31] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:31] <hero> K`zan: good luck with that. sorry if i confused you at first
[08:31] <hero> hey, is anyone having problems getting apt-get updates from security.ubuntu.com?
[08:32] <ardchoille> hero: that repo has had issues today
[08:32] <K`zan> hero: No problem, I'm pretty confused most of the time, but I stick with it ;-) LOL!
[08:32] <javierf> dhq: check super grub cd it is very easy to recover grub
[08:32] <hero> ardchoille: can you skip it without dinking with sources.list?
[08:32] <hero> er
[08:32] <hero> without
[08:32] <hero> yeah :P
[08:32] <K`zan> Seems to have installed OK, checking now.
[08:32] <hero> cool
[08:32] <ardchoille> hero: You can but security updates are important
[08:33] <ardchoille> So check back often
[08:33] <dhq> javierf, i am on a dialup connection it will take me ages to download it
[08:33] <hero> wonder why it's down
[08:33] <K`zan> Nope, still not in applets, may have to restart
[08:33] <hero> would it be safe to upgrade packages w/o verifying in this case?
[08:33] <ardchoille> K`zan: No, a restart isn't necessary unless you're doing kernel/grub work
[08:33] <K`zan> I should get secutiry updates when they become available, process runs to do it.
[08:34] <K`zan> ardchoille: OK, sigh, still not there, I may have to get the dead tree version out ;-).
[08:34] <hero> K`zan: you might logout/login though
[08:34] <ardchoille> K`zan: Did you install kdict?
[08:34] <K`zan> checking...
[08:34] <K`zan> No, installing now.
[08:34] <javierf> dhq: no way.. check the how to
[08:35] <K`zan> WOnder what I did wrong on the reinstall to miss that?!?
[08:35] <ardchoille> K`zan: I think it's kdict
[08:35] <dhq> !grub
[08:35] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:35] <ardchoille> fdoving: Thank you :)
[08:35] <K`zan> ardchoille: That was it, thank you very VERY much!
[08:35] <hero> yay!
[08:35] <ardchoille> K`zan: Thank hero, it was his idea :)
[08:36] <dhq> fdoving, are you familiar with grub
[08:36] <hero> thank google
[08:36] <ardchoille> hahaha
[08:36] <hero> it was its idea
[08:36] <K`zan> Sometimes google can be your friend if you start after page 10 missing all the paid placements :-/.
[08:36] <fdoving> dhq: depends on your problem, someone here probably is. i'm somewhat busy at the moment.
[08:36] <dhq> fdoving, ok :(
[08:36] <ardchoille> K`zan: and http://www.google.com/linux  can be better at times
[08:37] <hero> there is also a channel called #grub
[08:39] <BluesKaj> K`zan, google-linux works well , most of the time
[08:44] <K`zan> BluesKaj: Not so much, it seems more like a products catalog anymore than an information resource.  I have found that if you skip the first (about?) 10 pages to get past paid placement stuff that it does do a lot better.  Sometimes it depends on what you are looking for and how well you can feed the engine.
[08:44] <family> is there any way to make qemu boot my NTFS partition instead of a hard drive image file?
[08:45] <nosrednaekim> family: no
[08:46] <surgy> what is the package name to enable dvd suport? libdvd?
[08:47] <BluesKaj> libdvdcss2
[08:51] <arun_> is there any way to install .dmg files in ubuntu?
[08:52] <arun_> (might be a stupid question, just wanted to ask)
[08:52] <BluesKaj> dmg ?
[08:53] <arun_> OS X software packages
[08:53] <nosrednaekim> I don't think so.
[08:53] <nosrednaekim> what are you trying to install?
[08:53] <arun_> i was wondering if there was some way to install those on ubuntu, since both OSes are unix based
[08:53] <arun_> again, might be a stupid question, but i was bored and just wondering
[08:54] <arun_> software like coda, etc
[08:54] <nosrednaekim> No I don't think so.
[08:54] <nosrednaekim> But if you are really bored and will be for the rest of the year.,... you can try making something to do so;)
[08:55] <arun_> haha no, i dont think so
[08:56] <nosrednaekim> just a suggestion...
[08:57] <arun_> thanks
[08:57] <k7> hello
[08:58] <k7> can some1 help me?
[08:58] <arun_> hey k7
[08:58] <BluesKaj> !ask
[08:58] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:58] <k7> i have ubuntu
[08:59] <k7> and i want change teh resolution of monitor from 1024x768 to 1280x800
[08:59] <nosrednaekim> k7: ok, do you have an intel graphics card?
[08:59] <arun_> go to system settings
[09:00] <k7> yes intel gma 945
[09:01] <nosrednaekim> k7: ok, install "915resolution"
[09:02] <fdoving> k7: you need to enable the universe repository and get the 915resolution package.
[09:02] <nosrednaekim> !resolution
[09:02] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:02] <k7> i'm not an expert just a moment
[09:02] <k7> !resolution
[09:02] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:05] <arun_> which text editors/IDEs do you guys prefer?
[09:05] <ardchoille> vim for almost everything
[09:05] <ardchoille> kate is quite nice too
[09:06] <fdoving> vim and kdevelop here
[09:07] <arun_> I've been using kate, it's quite nice. It's not as good as this other app i used to use in Windows called Notepad2
[09:07] <arun_> http://www.flos-freeware.ch/notepad2.html
[09:08] <arun_> I was wondering if there was something better than kate
[09:08] <hero> i use kwrite
[09:08] <arun_> to write code?
[09:08] <hero> well, no
[09:08] <BluesKaj> or knotes
[09:09] <Rockj> anyone know what causes my network interface to give up its ip-lease and iwconfig forgets what essid it was connected to even. happends if I close my laptop lid or idle and monitor goes to "black" (after idle)
[09:09] <xoate0100> hello
[09:10] <lucas-r2d2> hi, i've got a little problem while setting up geant4. it tells me that i need "OpenGLXM", but i don't know where to find that. is there any package?
[09:11] <zolar> how do you change your default from gdm to kdm?
[09:13] <ardchoille> !display
[09:13] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:13] <ardchoille> That wasn't it
[09:13] <ardchoille> !dm
[09:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:14] <xoate0100> so.....how would i go to a different channel?
[09:14] <ardchoille> /join #channel_name
[09:14] <xoate0100> aha
[09:14] <xoate0100> ok good wheres that wonderful list to choose from?
[09:15] <ardchoille> a list of static channels?
[09:16] <xoate0100> well how do I know what name to put in
[09:16] <ardchoille> They're usually by project name, #ubuntu, #kubuntu,#linux, etc
[09:16] <xoate0100> oic
[09:16] <xoate0100> but all the ones on this server are going to be like that
[09:16] <ardchoille> but you can make a #xoate0100  simply by joining that channel
[09:17] <xoate0100> ha cool
[09:17] <ardchoille> unregistered channels come and go daily, which is why a channel list wouldn't be any good after an hour or so
[09:17] <Rockj> what is "avahi-autoipd" ?
[09:18] <ardchoille> Rockj: Looks like something used by the avahi daemon
[09:18] <xoate0100> ok that makes sense..
[09:19] <Rockj> but WHAT is it? what does it do?
[09:19] <Rockj> :p
[09:19] <ardchoille> notice xoate0100 If you want to setup and register a channel..  /msh chanserv help register
[09:19] <Rockj> it has a permission denied in my syslog
[09:19] <Rockj> probably what makes my interface drop connection when I close lid or idle
[09:20] <arun_> anyone here use beryl?
[09:20] <ardchoille> autoipd sounds like an automatic IP daemon or some such
[09:21] <xoate0100> hmmm...ok
[09:21] <xoate0100> I'm obviously new at this...lol
[09:22] <ardchoille> xoate0100: http://freenode.net  is your friend :)
[09:23] <arun_> i just installed vim, how do i run it?
[09:23] <jkmz52> Im trying to apt-get packages which I know are on apt and which I have successfully gotten on other computers using apt, but they keep returning E: package couldn't find package, do i need to supdate may local apt repository or something?
[09:23] <jhutchins_lt> xoate0100: You can do /list, but it might flood your connection.
[09:23] <lucas-r2d2> arun: vim file
[09:23] <jhutchins_lt> xoate0100: I think there's a list at http://freenode.org
[09:24] <xoate0100> oh wow...ok
[09:24] <xoate0100> lol it does clog things up a bit
[09:24] <Rockj> btw, with KDE, is there a option for turning off KDE to start up all application you had before reboot?
[09:25] <xoate0100> that helps thats what i was looking for
[09:25] <hero> Rockj: yes, in kcontrol, under session management
[09:25] <jhutchins_lt> Rockj: Well, you can kill all the apps before you log out, and log out instead of killing kde.
[09:25] <jhutchins_lt> Rockj: There might be something in kcontrol that says "start with blank session" or "don't save session".
[09:26] <jhutchins_lt> Rockj: Yeah, what hero said.
[09:26] <Rockj> there was :)
[09:26] <jhutchins_lt> lag
[09:26] <Rockj> I enabled   start up manually saved session , guess I can save sessions if I want, and then it boots up that
[09:26] <xoate0100> thanks for your help
[09:26] <Rockj> mhm :)
[09:27] <hero> no prob! cool, i actually helped someone.
[09:27] <Rockj> im off for reboot to test, and see if my network troubles is better when I've turned of that stupid avahi daemon
[09:27] <ccoffey> is it possible to install onto fakeraid and lvm at the same time, do you think?
[09:37] <Rockj> hmf, what is it that makes my wireless disable when I close my lid? I dont get it
[09:37] <Rockj> and after idle timeout
[09:37] <Rockj> grr
[09:37] <tzanger> hmm
[09:37] <tzanger> is there a kubuntu-approved or debian-approved way to edit your xorg.conf?
[09:40] <Lynoure> tzanger: any text editor will do
[09:40] <shub112004> hi there
[09:40] <Lynoure> tzanger: the ones that do not wrap lines without being told are usually best for configuration files
[09:40] <shub112004> any ont there for helping me out to deal wit hgrub
[09:41] <ardchoille> tzanger: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:42] <ardchoille> tzanger: But, as Lynoure said, you can do it with a text editor too.. just make sure to restart xorg when done editing
[09:44] <tzanger> ardchoille: *nods* I am used to the text editor way, just didn want ot step on any configuration tools toes
[09:44] <tzanger> that my biggest nemesis with working with debian :-)
[09:45] <phoenix_> hi all
[09:46] <Rockj> how can I check what closing the lid on my laptop triggers?
[09:47] <ardchoille> Rockj: Kinda like testing to see if the refrigerator light really goes out when you close the door? lol
[09:49] <Rockj> ardchoille: I wanna know what changes it does to my laptop, because its quite odd that it DISABLES my network connection. it also does it on idle :(
[09:49] <Rockj> which is hillarious.
[09:51] <BluesKaj> I always thought that closing a laptop shuts 'everything' down
[09:51] <Rockj> "so I'm more looking for the secret button in the refrigerator which makes the light go off when you close the door. "
[09:51] <tzanger> 25MB/sec over usb... not too shabby
[09:51] <tzanger> it probably the 5400 rpm drive limiting it
[09:51] <Rockj> BluesKaj: that depends on your configuration. You can make it do nothing, lock screen, goto hibernation and I think power off too. I have do nothing.
[09:51] <Rockj> which is default
[09:52] <Rockj> hum, im trying to close power manager to see if connection gets dropped again. brb
[09:52] <BluesKaj> default ? really? or did you set it as default ?
[09:52] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: Depends on the laptop.
[09:53] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: Mostly it just sends a signal to the apci
[09:53] <BluesKaj> daughter's new toshiba shuts down when the lid goes down...of course she runs windows
[09:54] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: It should suspend or hibernate - probably not set up right.
[09:54] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: There should be a toshiba utility to configure it.
[09:55] <MURDERNERDCLASSM> is anyone gonna help me?
[09:55] <BluesKaj> it doesn't matter it's not used for business where she amy have to hide stuff by closing the lid
[09:56] <MURDERNERDCLASSM> i need help getting my other kubuntu machine
[09:56] <MURDERNERDCLASSM> online
[09:57] <jhutchins> MURDERNERDCLASSM: No, nobody's going to help you, because you haven't told anybody what the problem is.
[09:57] <MURDERNERDCLASSM> i need help getting my 35th computer online
[09:58] <BluesKaj> !ask | MURDERNERDCLASSM
[09:58] <ubotu> MURDERNERDCLASSM: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:58] <jhutchins> Hopeless.
[09:58] <jhutchins> I need to go get a couple of spindle bearings.
[10:00] <drowningB> i have cable internet service
[10:00] <BluesKaj> yeah, jhutchins ..and i have absolutely no experience with ethernet probs , cuz i havent had any yet (knocks on wood)
[10:00] <Daisuke_Ido> that screamed windows user.
[10:01] <Daisuke_Ido> drowningB: your continually switching nicks isn't helping either.
[10:01] <drowningB> how do you make konqueror send and recieve traffic from your cable modem?
[10:01] <waylandbill__> screaming windows user sounds more like it. :-D
[10:02] <BluesKaj> konqueror?
[10:02] <Daisuke_Ido> you show it how and every time it does, you give it a treat
[10:02] <drowningB> when i try and look at configuring the connection manualy, i see that the gateway address is blank
[10:02] <waylandbill__> BluesKaj: I haven't had any ethernet problems since I went to 802.11g.
[10:02] <drowningB> im a screaming windows user, yeah
[10:03] <family> are there any good keyloggers for Linux?
[10:03] <BluesKaj> waylandbill__, I'm behind a seimens router , using cat5 on ethernet connection
[10:03] <Rockj> oki , I'm back. even when I closed the powermanager, it still closes the network connection
[10:04] <tzanger> family: cat /proc/dev/input/xxx?  :-)
[10:04] <BluesKaj> drowningB, are trying to surf the net ,  describe what happens , at least
[10:04] <waylandbill__> BluesKaj: nothing wrong with that. I'm out in the country and when a mouse chewed a wire, I decided the 2 desktops and 1 laptop can all use wireless. :-)
[10:05] <Rockj> trying to shutdown ACPI to see if that helps
[10:05] <waylandbill__> BluesKaj: don't worry... it's just  a different set of challenges.
[10:05] <drowningB> sometimes the network connection comes up on the icon tray, and when i try to configure my internet connection i see that the gateway address is missing
[10:05] <drowningB> and in general i just cant recieve any web pages or use adept
[10:06] <Daisuke_Ido> are you the only computer connected to the modem?
[10:06] <Daisuke_Ido> or going through a router?
[10:06] <drowningB> its just a modem to a computer
[10:06] <waylandbill__> drowningB: of course. you need a gateway. if the router is flawed in it's dhcp, then set the address static.
[10:06] <drowningB> one computer
[10:06] <BluesKaj> yeah waylandbill__ I'm in a small town which has decent DSL and cable internet , so i stayed wired ...wireless is nice and I have the capability but haven't bothered
[10:07] <Daisuke_Ido> this shouldn't be a problem then :\
[10:07] <drowningB> ok im going to go research dhcp
[10:07] <Daisuke_Ido> your modem should assign a dhcp address automatically
[10:07] <Daisuke_Ido> receive*
[10:07] <BluesKaj> drowningB, click on the knetwork manager
[10:08] <tzanger> is there a way to queue up a package install?
[10:08] <tzanger> i.e. adept is busy updating shit so I can install any packages at the moment
[10:08] <waylandbill__> the dhcp protocol requires a gateway being assigned. It doesn't necessarily need to be the dhcp server, but many times is on a lan.
[10:08] <tzanger> but can I say dd this to your pile of things ot do"type of thing?
[10:09] <Daisuke_Ido> tzanger: you wait, there's no queueing.  one instance at a time, unfortunately
[10:09] <waylandbill__> tzanger: if you used aptitude you could queue up things. when you ctrl-c out and go back in, it will remember what it was doing. (When using the ncurses interface)
[10:09] <tzanger> Daisuke_Ido: ok
[10:09] <tzanger> aptitude drives me crazy
[10:10] <waylandbill__> aptitude is the bomb IMHO
[10:10] <arun_> i've heard ubuntu isn't very good with wireless connections
[10:10] <family> tzanger: okay, I've got it saving the input now, but how do I decode it? It's all meaningless bytes.. I need it to be in ASCII
[10:10] <waylandbill__> arun_: maybe is dependent on the wireless card.
[10:10] <tzanger> family: I guessing that not for me
[10:10] <Daisuke_Ido> arun_: there are a few chipsets that aren't well supported, but for the most part, quite lovely
[10:11] <vzduch> tzanger: don't use accents as apostrophe :)
[10:11] <arun_> Daisuke_Ido: can you elaborate on which ones aren't supported? I am considering getting a laptop..
[10:11] <Daisuke_Ido> couldn't tell you right off
[10:11] <waylandbill__> tzanger: if you cancel even in adept, the partial download is still retained, so you can actually stop the download, select more packages and go and it will continue the partials.
[10:11] <Daisuke_Ido> arun_: i never thought i'd recommend this, but have you considered an ubuntu dell?
[10:12] <arun_> hah, nope
[10:12] <tzanger> waylandbill__: didn know that
[10:13] <waylandbill__> tzanger: yup. they are stored in /var/cache/apt/archives/partial
[10:13] <Daisuke_Ido> arun_: just saying...  they're tested with ubuntu so you know the hardware's gonna work out of the box
[10:14] <arun_> Daisuke_Ido: I run a dual-boot system, so I'd like to install things myself
[10:14] <arun_> Is Dell and HP hardware more or less supported?
[10:15] <Daisuke_Ido> arun_: just because you buy a dell with ubuntu preloaded doesn't mean it has to STAY preloaded
[10:15] <Daisuke_Ido> the hardware will still work.
[10:15] <waylandbill__> Dell makes Linux systems and uses Canocical for support don't they?
[10:15] <Daisuke_Ido> wipe it, install windows, and then set up the dual boot
[10:16] <Daisuke_Ido> waylandbill__: yep
[10:16] <BluesKaj> wonder if Dell will ship with Kubuntu instead of gnome in the near future, cuz we're gonna need a laptop when we travel in March of next yr to taiwan to visit our daughter
[10:16] <arun_> Daisuke_Ido: that seems like a good idea, but I'm in India, and I don't think you get Ubuntu Dells here
[10:16] <waylandbill> changing to kubuntu is only a few hundred MB download on a preinstalled.
[10:17] <BluesKaj> i heard if you try to install kde on the Dell that it voids the warranty
[10:17] <waylandbill> BluesKaj: I don't know about that. I imagine they won't give support on added packages though.
[10:18] <MarcC> kde's just a software package...I can't imagine it voiding any warranty...anyway, I installed kubuntu first thing on my Dell ubuntu laptop
[10:18] <Daisuke_Ido> BluesKaj: the same way installing windowblinds on a windows pc voids the warranty :D
[10:19] <Daisuke_Ido> i can't imagine canonical NOT supporting packages from their own main repos
[10:19] <waylandbill> warranty is one thing, support is another. hardware v software.
[10:20] <tzanger> can anyone help me blow away this international keyboard keymap?  I cannot use apostrophe and a few other keys correctly
[10:20] <tzanger> dpkg-reconfigure console-setup has been done but it seems to error out
[10:20] <Daisuke_Ido> okay, the hardware isn't being changed, just a software package that's running on top of it.  in that case, if dell refuses to honor the warranty on that, screw them.
[10:21] <tzanger>  * Saving console font and keymap for next boot...                                                                        /usr/bin/ckbcomp: instead of "#Added for pc105 compatibility<LSGT>=94;<TLDE>=49;" in evdev expected };.
[10:21] <tzanger> is the error it throws out
[10:22] <vadim_> hi 2 all :)
[10:22] <tzanger> aha
[10:22] <tzanger> it an X thing
[10:22] <tzanger> not a debian/system thing
[10:23] <tzanger> now I wonder if it is possible to reload/reconfigure the X keyboard without restarting X
[10:25] <vzduch> tzanger: you're still using accents as apostrophes
[10:25] <waylandbill> tzanger: what's debian got to do with it?
[10:26] <tzanger> vzduch: not htat I can ssee
[10:26] <waylandbill> vadim_: what's going on?
[10:26] <waylandbill> tzanger: yes. you're using accent marks.
[10:26] <tzanger> heh
[10:26] <tzanger> waylandbill: I thought it was the system-wide keyboard map
[10:26] <tzanger> but it not, droping to a vt shows it
[10:27] <vadim_> guys, how can i remotely access my computer? i mean, is there in kubuntu something similar to Remote Desktop in Windows?
[10:27] <vzduch> !ssh
[10:27] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[10:27] <vzduch> !vnc
[10:27] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[10:27] <waylandbill> tzanger: was just wondering how debian falls into the picture.
[10:28] <drif_> which vnc server to use when I want to reach login window? x11vnc stopped working after X mysteriously rebooted itself
[10:28] <waylandbill> vadim_: vnc works if you can get access to 5900 port outside the router (i.e. port forward)
[10:28] <family> how can I find out what my keymap file is stored?
[10:28] <MarcC> vadim_: I use it on my local network to connect to a windows machine...it's pretty easy to use tightVNC with windows, and then type "vnc:/address" in konqueror to get it going.
[10:29] <germanjew> !bot
[10:29] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:29] <vadim_> will VNC let me have a parallel session if there is somebody loged on or it will connect me to the running session?
[10:29] <tzanger> waylandbill: because during the dsetup it asks to get smart about the keyboard config
[10:29] <waylandbill> drif_: login window from the DM? use XDMCP capability of KDM.
[10:29] <germanjew> !ssh
[10:29] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[10:30] <germanjew> what is the ssh server package name?
[10:30] <drif_> waylandbill: in short?
[10:30] <waylandbill> tzanger: but I'm wondering about kubuntu or debian. dsetup isn't in the kubuntu install.
[10:30] <dcorbin_work> I'm trying to get my kmail to send mail throw my localhost/postfix SMTP and relay everything.  As things stand, kmail seems to just hang trying to send it.  Ideas?
[10:31] <drif_> waylandbill: I know I could dig the net for that stuff - but I'm visiting my gf for this week and not really able to 'waste' time there - just want to get things back running again and forget it for rest of the week
[10:31] <MarcC> vadim_: I'm not sure if you can do that (parallel session)...I just see whatever's on the screen, so if somebody logs out, I see the login screen
[10:31] <waylandbill> drif_: research XDMCP. It's just like windows server's remote desktop. One box runs multiple desktop clients.
[10:32] <tzanger> waylandbill: ?  console-setup is
[10:32] <germanjew> Please insert the disc labeled 'Kubuntu 7.04 _Feisty Fawn_ - Release i386 (20070417)' in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
[10:32] <germanjew> whats up with that???
[10:33] <tzanger> hahaha
[10:33] <drif_> germanjew: you need to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:33] <tzanger> germanjew hahahaha
[10:33] <vadim_> MarcC: waylandbill: thx :)
[10:33] <germanjew> lol ;p
[10:33] <waylandbill> drif_: "simple" solution is vnc. Good solution like for classroom computers to connect to server its dmcp.
[10:33] <tzanger> yup
[10:34] <tzanger> vnc is good
[10:34] <drif_> waylandbill: I'm already running x11vnc wihch has worked fine so far
[10:34] <drif_> waylandbill: but somehow the X restarted itself while I've been here and the display :0 is gone..cannot connect anymore
[10:34] <germanjew> so any ideas how my cdrom came in my repostory?
[10:34] <tzanger> germanjew: from the install maybe?
[10:34] <drif_> germanjew: it's there by default
[10:35] <germanjew> lol i've never noticed that, I installed via textbased installer this time though...
[10:35] <drif_> germanjew: just comment out those lines are run 'apt-get update' again
[10:35] <drif_> are=and
[10:35] <germanjew> drif_: ye..
[10:36] <vzduch> I installed from the live CD and I've never seen a repo line for CD or anything
[10:39] <vzduch> only know that from SUSE and Mandrake (back in the days when it still was Mdk)
[10:40] <yeniklasor> With what can I open a chm file?
[10:41] <vzduch> browser, text editor..
[10:42] <vzduch> except it's a Windoze binary chm..
[10:42] <Daisuke_Ido> yeniklasor: xchm
[10:42] <Daisuke_Ido> it's in the repos
[10:42] <Daisuke_Ido> i use it myself for occasional ebooks in chm format
[10:42] <Daisuke_Ido> and he's gone
[10:45] <family> I'm trying Linux Key Logger right now (lkl), but it's not making the file I tell it to make. I'm running it with "sudo lkl -l -k /usr/share/lkl/keymaps/us_km -o keylog.txt"
[10:50] <ubuntu__> saludos a todo
[10:50] <ubuntu__> s
[10:50] <ubuntu__> una pregunta
[10:51] <vzduch> !es | ubuntu__
[10:51] <ubotu> ubuntu__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:51] <ubuntu__> espero que alguien me la pueda reponder
[10:51] <vzduch> ubuntu__: vea arriba
[10:51] <ubuntu__> si he ido a esas paginas
[10:52] <ubuntu__> pero no me resuelven el problema
[10:52] <vzduch> si quieres preguntar algo aqu, en ingles por favor :)
[10:52] <ubuntu__> ok
[10:53] <r00t_> is it possible to use dd to move my os off a usb drive onto my laptops HD? and if so could someone give me a hand so i dont loose everything?i dont have a install cd anymore :( so i dont want to mess this up
[10:54] <vzduch> r00t_: get on the 'net and download the install CD ;)
[10:54] <r00t_> vzduch: no burner
[10:54] <r00t_> vzduch: and i have a ton of custom stuff and had a hell of a time installing
[10:54] <ubuntu__> i have my lap and i like install ubuntu but dont me works video
[10:55] <tzanger> I using vesa right now with the radeon mobile in this t60
[10:55] <tzanger> gonna run with that for a while before trying the binary driver
[10:55] <r00t_> tzanger: which card?im useing xpress 1150 with teh binary
[10:56] <vzduch> r00t_: in theory: 'dd if=/dev/sda1 of=usbkey.img' (assuming your USB drive is plugged in as /dev/sda1 and of course not mounted)
[10:56] <tzanger> r00t_: x1400
[10:56] <r00t_> vzduch: of course its mounted,it what im running off of
[10:57] <vzduch> r00t_: you can't dd a mounted device, to my knowledge
[10:57] <tzanger> vzduch: you can, it just fucks everything up
[10:57] <Nyle> hey there
[10:57] <r00t_> vzduch: ive got another os or two so id go into one of those and type that in and thats it?id have to make a new partition
[10:57] <Nyle> kubuntu doesn't turn on my network card on boot
[10:57] <Nyle> why?
[10:58] <Nyle> I have to sudo ifup eth0 each time i reboot
[10:58] <vzduch> r00t_: no need for a new partition if you have enough space.. the 'of' part saves the image as a file
[10:58] <Nyle> I checked /etc/network/interfaces and I saw eth0 is auto
[10:58] <ubuntu__> ubuntu doesn't works my video ati radeon 200
[10:59] <ubuntu__> nbvmnmn
[10:59] <vzduch> !ati | ubuntu__
[10:59] <ubotu> ubuntu__: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:00] <Tanooki> How do I boot a livecd without starting X?
[11:00] <ubuntu__>  ok
[11:00] <vzduch> Tanooki: by passing an option that tells it not to start X
[11:00] <Tanooki> vzduch: What's the option?
[11:00] <vzduch> not possible w/ *buntu live CDs, to my knowledge
[11:01] <Tanooki> Ok.
[11:01] <Nyle> how do I turn off the kubuntu boosplash
[11:01] <Nyle> I want to use my own image, any ideas?
[11:03] <vzduch> only thing I know is that the bootsplash is stored as a file in /boot.. might be /boot/message, but I don't know exactly.. if you find the right file & replace it w/ something else, it might work
[11:03] <vzduch> (no expert on such questions)
[11:04] <vzduch> I, for one, use none, I turned it off altogether
[11:05] <r00t_> vzduch: what do i do witht the image file after words?
[11:05] <hilary> hey everyone =)
[11:05] <r00t_> just mount it and edit grub?
[11:06] <thinker> good evening
[11:07] <thinker> does anyone have any experience of running a Greenphone SDK on kubuntu? would it install and work "out of the box"?
[11:08] <rojas> hola
[11:08] <vzduch> r00t_: what exactly are you up to?
[11:09] <rojas> espaol
[11:09] <K`zan> english
[11:09] <rojas> no entiendo esto
[11:10] <rojas> alguien me explica
[11:10] <vzduch> !es | rojas
[11:10] <ubotu> rojas: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:10] <K`zan> Thanks, didn't know that :-).
[11:10] <rojas> como
[11:10] <vzduch> rojas: /join #kubuntu-es
[11:11] <vzduch> K`zan: works w/ almost every language :>
[11:11] <K-Ryan> The trick is to know what language they're speaking
[11:11] <vzduch> K-Ryan: mostly unproblematic to find out
[11:12] <K-Ryan> I mix up pt and es kind of
[11:12] <K-Ryan> Even though I speak es...
[11:12] <vzduch> if they're not _very_ short, es and pt are pretty well distinguishable
[11:12] <r00t_> vzduch: i installed my os to a external usb hd,now i want to to move it onto my laptop,i would reinstall but theres a ton of custom stuff/settings and i lack a install cd,also the install proscess took 2 days just to get my xserver running,and 40 hours to figure out how to make my sound card work
[11:12] <K-Ryan> Minor differences the times I've mistaken them
[11:13] <rojas> chaoooooooooooooo
[11:14] <vzduch> r00t_: I never transferred a hdd image to some other place
[11:15] <r00t_> does dd move files or copy them?
[11:15] <vzduch> but if that's what you want, you could try 'dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/hdXY' w/ both partitions not mounted.. adjust devices names if necessary
[11:15] <vzduch> dd neither copies nor moves files, it creates images
[11:16] <vzduch> but, for that matter, it should be sufficient if you just create a blank partition, copy all files and adjust your bootloader accordingly
[11:17] <vzduch> and of course the /boot/grub/menu.lst in the respective installation, it needs to know where it is :)
[11:18] <vzduch> and the /etc/fstab
[11:20] <vzduch> the problem is that you need to copy as root as there are files that are not readable
[11:21] <ninHer> hi all
[11:21] <vzduch> so dd might be easier.. you need to edit some files anyway (/etc/fstab and /boot/grub/menu.lst in any case, dunno if I forgot something)
[11:22] <vzduch> what I don't know if you can just put the img on a partition that is not exactly the same size as the old one
[11:28] <r00t_> vzduch: i have an unmounted ext3 on hda8 can i just cp everything there?
[11:29] <vzduch> r00t_: if you copy stuff you need the drives mounted of course
[11:30] <sam123> how do i setup teamspeak to use alsa or enable my microphone for oss?
[11:32] <r00t_> vzduch: how do i mount it to /media/hda8 ? its a ext3 filesystem
[11:33] <r00t_> mount hda8 ext3 /media/hda8/ ?
[11:33] <r00t_> i have the folder made
[11:33] <vzduch> by creating /media/hda8 if it doesn't exist and mounting w/ 'sudo mount -t ext3 -o defaults /dev/hda8 /media/hda8
[11:34] <vzduch> '
[11:36] <sam123> how do i setup teamspeak to use alsa or enable my microphone for oss?
[11:45] <grzechu> hello
[11:45] <pyrotix_> I cancelled an upgrade to feisty halfway through, how do I resume it?
[11:46] <Daisuke_Ido> do a fresh feisty install?
[11:46] <grzechu> pyrotix_: sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:46] <Rockj> pyrotix_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:47] <adenicio> how do i install firefox on kubuntu?
[11:47] <Rockj> adenicio: sudo apt-get install firefox
[11:47] <velle> Is it in someway "wrong" or "illegal" to start KDE applications from Konsole?
[11:48] <MarcC> velle: there can be errors thrown...there are bugs filed for those, but in my experience the apps work fine
[11:48] <Rockj> velle: nah. I use that often. Probably want to add a & after executable so it runs in background and not foreground
[11:48] <MarcC> if you need to run an app as superuser, I'd do alt+f2 and use kdesu instead of sudo
[11:49] <Rockj> or use alt+f2 or  win+r (if you changed keyboard shortcut layout to windows)
[11:49] <adenicio> rockj:they say i dont have any paquet of firefox
[11:50] <Rockj> paquet? which means? is that english? :S
[11:50] <pyrotix_> Rockj: TY
[11:50] <Rockj> ahh, try   sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[11:50] <vzduch> Rockj: looks like Spanish
[11:50] <Daisuke_Ido> french.
[11:50] <velle> MarcC, Rockj: I get to X errors everytime I start any KDE application (of all the ones I have tried). They look something like this: "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169, Major opcode: 145, Minor opcode: 3, resource id: 0x0"
[11:51] <adenicio> rockj:sorry lol no french.they say no firefox install was found
[11:52] <Rockj> adenicio: apt-cache search firefox | grep firefox
[11:52] <Rockj> do you see anything called firefox or mozilla-firefox ?
[11:53] <Rockj> if not, you probably have to add universe repos or something
[11:54] <adenicio> rockj:this  is my first time on kubuntu on the net.im trying to surf with konqueror but an error keep sayin cant find host
[11:54] <velle> MarcC, Rockj: And it is excactly the same thing happening on my other laptop. Except that the input device has number 168, instead of 169.
[11:54] <Rockj> adenicio: you probably havn't configured your network. Does your router give out ip's via DHCP?
[11:55] <MarcC> velle: does your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file have wacom info in it?
[11:55] <Rockj> velle: I get those device errors tho on my laptop. not sure why, havent bothered looked it up yet.
[11:55] <adenicio> rockj:how do u add universe?i only saw does tings in ubuntu
[11:55] <phoenix_> Hello guys and girls.
[11:55] <adenicio> rockj:i have a modem an it's not usb
[11:56] <phoenix_> Can anyone please give me the link to register to the irc?
[11:58] <MarcC> velle: if you are getting those errors, and you have wacom information in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, and you *don't* have a wacom tablet, remove *all* the wacom info including places where it's referred to elsewhere in the file. Then restart X.
[11:58] <Rockj> adenicio: alt+f2 :  kdesu "kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:58] <MarcC> velle: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1264009&postcount=3
[11:58] <MarcC> be sure to take the advice about the server section
[11:59] <MarcC> *serverlayout
[11:59] <Rockj> adenicio: there you can see what repostery's who are activated. probably want to activate universe and multiverse.
[11:59] <MarcC> I didn't do that and X wouldn't start until I fixed it :)
[11:59] <MarcC> regardless, have IRSSI ready and know how to restore xorg.conf from backups :)
[12:00] <velle> MarcC: So if I dont have a touch screen at all, my comp is definitely not a wacom? (sorry, but never heard wacom before)
[12:00] <MarcC> velle: yes, in this case it thinks you have a pen tablet, which you probably don't - they're used by artists mostly
[12:00] <MarcC> for some reason this gets included in xorg.conf on a lot of setups, and it's ridiculous
[12:01] <command0-182> Can Someone please help me remove the file: /lib/linux-restricted-modules/.nvidia_new_installed
[12:01] <velle> MarcC: cool, I will try removing all the wacom right away.
[12:01] <command0-182> It won't let me do it normaly
[12:01] <MarcC> velle: see also: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/97192
[12:02] <MarcC> anyway, that should be the problem you're seeing.
[12:02] <command0-182> How do you delete the file:/lib/linux-restricted-modules/.nvidia_new_installed
[12:02] <MarcC> and 2x: don't forget to remove the ServerLayout entry, velle :D
[12:02] <Rockj> but anyone had troubles with closing your laptop lid, closes the network connection?
[12:03] <MarcC> Rockj: what does your laptop do (hibernate|suspend|lock|blank) when you close the screen?
[12:03] <Rockj> or after idle?
[12:03] <Rockj> my laptop gets blank after closing lid or idling
[12:03] <Rockj> but it kills network connection for some odd reason
[12:03] <jhutchins_lt> What happened is that the people who packaged the default xorg.conf file included all the wacom drivers just in case, because the xorg installer didn't check for them.  That way they always work, but for the 90+% of systems that don't have them, they throw (harmless) errors.
[12:03] <jhutchins_lt> Other distros have fixed this, but so far not (k)ubuntu.
[12:04] <Rockj> I can't figure out WHERE it tells it todo it. quite annoying when im trying to copy several gb's over network.
[12:04] <MarcC> interesting, jhutchins_lt
[12:04] <Rockj> jhutchins_lt: kubuntu maintainers should just add a question in install, do oyu use pen tablet? yes or no
[12:05] <Rockj> :)
[12:05] <TeraDyne> Rockj: You should add that as a feature request Launchpad.
[12:05] <jhutchins_lt> Rockj: Other distros test for them - they load the drivers, look for an error, if there's none, they add the driver to xorg.conf.
[12:06] <TeraDyne> on* Launchpad
[12:07] <velle> MarcC: Sorry, but I dont know what you mean by "ServerLayout entry"? I could not find anything like that in xorg.conf.
[12:08] <MarcC> velle: did you see the ubuntuforums post I linked to? Just follow the instructions there...if you don't see the reference, no big deal
[12:08] <jhutchins_lt> Rockj: It's probably suspending to ram, which is what's killing the connection.  You might be able to adjust that with the klaptop power manager, which is what provides that little battery meter in the system tray.
[12:09] <Rockj> jhutchins: nono, its not suspending to ram.
[12:09] <MarcC> velle: just make sure you search for "stylus", "cursor", and "eraser" to make sure those refs are all commented out - if they appear once, they're probably in there twice
[12:09] <Rockj> its just like an black screensaver
[12:09] <MarcC> Rockj, maybe it has something to do with /etc/acpi/lid.sh
[12:09] <Rockj> after idle/reopening laptop lid
[12:10] <velle> MarcC: I'm trying to read all of what you wrote (and I sincerely find it great that your answer is this thorough :) ) but since this X stuff is all new to me, it takes a while to read.
[12:11] <MarcC> velle: no problem, if you want to send me your xorg.conf I will check it for you too
[12:12] <MarcC> or velle, just post it to pastebin if you want
[12:12] <MarcC> !pastebin
[12:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:12] <zombielion> im trying to install cinelerra im needing to install these files libmpeg3hv libquicktimehvim working on the mpeg one now. im not good at installing tar files this is my first time. it is telling me 22 unexpected operator and 29 unexpected operater when i ./configure what does this mean