[12:20] New bug: #125147 in malone "ipw2200 intel wireless driver not the latest" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125147 === BFTD [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.221.142.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #launchpad === mwhudson [i=mwh@conference/europython/x-88c871c8f99e2185] has joined #launchpad === mwh [i=mwh@conference/europython/x-ca3d7170f18b6a89] has joined #launchpad === pochu [n=emilio@4.Red-88-3-54.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad [12:55] New bug: #125155 in launchpad-bazaar "code-import-sync script should delete dummy import branches" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125155 === LeeJunFan [i=junfan@adsl-76-204-9-149.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #launchpad === Fujitsu wonders what exactly was wrong with SQLObject. [01:24] Fujitsu, have you ever developed using SQLObject? [01:24] there are so many problems I don't know where to start from :-) [01:24] but really, the two things that storm gives you on top of a better design: [01:25] - support for connecting to multiple databases at once [01:25] - an extensible API that lets you fetch objects and groups of objects in a single database query [01:25] (i.e. aggregate functions side-by-side with instances) [01:26] I have developed small things with it, but nothing biggish. [01:26] it's generally okay [01:26] but the code is not very nice [01:26] By the way, we've got a #storm channel on Freenode now. It's already kicking with activity. [01:26] I suppose you wouldn't be reinventing the wheel without good reason. [01:26] and the API limitations above are a showstopper if you want to connect to multiple DBs [01:26] Ah, nice. [01:27] or if you are performance-constrained [01:27] Anyway, good to see small bits of LP being opened :) [01:27] we're getting there === bac is now known as bac_afk === shawn__ [n=shawn@adsl-68-127-138-203.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #launchpad === kiko is now known as kiko-fud === radhios_ [n=radhios@200-122-52-211.dsl.prima.net.ar] has joined #launchpad === merriam_ [n=merriam@84-12-20-189.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === jml [n=jml@203-113-250-169-static.TAS.netspace.net.au] has joined #launchpad === lionel [n=lionel@ip-211.net-81-220-127.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #launchpad === gianmt [n=gianmt@host49-200-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #launchpad === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #launchpad === jkakar [n=jkakar@c-24-21-131-142.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #launchpad === jml_ [n=jml@ppp121-44-217-216.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === jkakar [n=jkakar@c-24-21-131-142.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #launchpad === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-128-43.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #launchpad === BFTD [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.220.129.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #launchpad === jml_ is now known as jml [05:00] Gooooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders! [05:03] Hi mpt. === kiko-fud is now known as kiko-zzz [05:30] New bug: #125173 in malone "+viewstatus should no longer exist" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125173 === radhios_ [n=radhios@200-122-52-211.dsl.prima.net.ar] has joined #launchpad === niemeyer [i=niemeyer@conference/europython/x-72046f6e682c575e] has joined #launchpad === BFTD [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.220.129.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #launchpad === mwh [i=mwh@conference/europython/x-6daf95b20e3e25ca] has joined #launchpad === mwhudson [i=mwh@conference/europython/x-0fd44be5d17f7e5b] has joined #launchpad === gavinbaker [n=gavin@c-69-143-179-58.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #launchpad [07:50] not to be a jerk, but is there a problem with launchpad.net's servers atm? [07:50] is lp really slow today? [07:50] afc was complaining about timeouts before [07:50] now opening a bug page is taking 20s [07:50] in fact it's now up to nearly a minute [07:51] i think something must be wrong, because i would normally at least get an error message [07:51] i'm getting 100% packet loss, and confirmed by another user. === BFTD [n=thomas@unaffiliated/bftd] has left #launchpad ["Leaving"] === jtv [n=jtv@125-24-218-172.adsl.totbb.net] has joined #launchpad === mwh [i=mwh@conference/europython/x-5faec75c83409cb3] has joined #launchpad [07:58] spiv: can I grab you for a pre-impl call? [08:00] jml: sure === kompressor [n=kompress@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #launchpad [08:02] gavinbaker, our sysadmins are working on the problem [08:02] poolie, thanks for the status update [08:02] spiv: on skype? [08:03] and we were just looking forward to closing some bugs, too :) [08:03] :) === ..[topic/#launchpad:mpt] : Launchpad is down, sysadmins are working on the problem | Next developer meeting: Thu 12 July 2007, 1400UTC (wiki:MeetingAgenda) | launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com (wiki:MailingLists) | Launchpad help: https://help.launchpad.net | Channel logs: http://tinyurl.com/72w39 === lifeless [n=robertc@ppp245-86.static.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === niemeyer [i=niemeyer@conference/europython/x-e7d477d09362975d] has joined #launchpad === paulproteus [i=paulprot@29.145.221.202.bf.2iij.net] has joined #launchpad [08:18] no power in the DC again? [08:18] something like that [08:18] If someone gives me the Launchpad source, I could set up a live mirror service on my network space. [08:19] paulproteus, sneaky way of getting the source ;) [08:19] I know it requires a few machines, but it happens that I do have a few machines. [08:19] i think getting you the database would take a while... [08:20] mwh, Especially if the Ethernet switches aren't powered on. (-; === allenap [n=allenap@212.233.37.186] has joined #launchpad === xerosis [n=kieran@cpc2-shep5-0-0-cust722.lei3.cable.ntl.com] has joined #launchpad [08:41] it's back now [08:43] ah, so it is. thanks poolie === lifeless [n=robertc@ppp245-86.static.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === fabbione [i=fabbione@nat/canonical/x-1979cd1e063d3ff3] has joined #launchpad === carlos [n=carlos@canonical/launchpad/carlos] has joined #launchpad [09:21] morning [09:24] morning === orc_emac [n=orc_emac@centos/admin/orc-orc] has joined #launchpad === bigjools [n=bigjools@canonical/launchpad/bigjools] has joined #launchpad === cprov [n=cprov@canonical/launchpad/cprov] has joined #launchpad [09:32] good morning === zwnj [n=behnam@194.225.70.226] has joined #launchpad === raphink [i=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad === gmb [n=gmb@i-83-67-5-113.freedom2surf.net] has joined #launchpad === mrevell [n=matthew@canonical/launchpad/mrevell] has joined #launchpad === sabdfl [i=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === zwnj [n=behnam@194.225.70.226] has joined #launchpad === schwuk [n=dave@ubuntu/member/schwuk] has joined #launchpad === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.7.20.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad === seb128 [i=seb@nat/canonical/x-07a638d54b80cc6d] has joined #launchpad === shawn__ [n=shawn@adsl-70-231-227-173.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net] has joined #launchpad === dneary [n=dneary@251.9.39-62.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #launchpad === mwhudson [i=mwh@conference/europython/x-c21b22d5a0413d4d] has joined #launchpad === mwh [i=mwh@conference/europython/x-10409b94ecb497a8] has joined #launchpad === pcardune [i=pcardune@conference/europython/x-7f5e948aeac41707] has joined #launchpad === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #launchpad [10:40] Word on the street at EuroPython is that the bzr smart server is now available on LaunchPad as of last thursday? Is this true? and where do I find out how to use it? [10:41] pcardune, i think that's true === poolie tries [10:44] pcardune, you should be able to use it by just changing the sftp to bzr+ssh at the start of your urls [10:44] this may only work for branches that you can write to though? [10:45] no, there's read only access to all branches [10:49] mwh, bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bzr/bzr/trunk/ [10:49] oh i see [10:49] there's no access to mirrored branches? [10:50] that shouldn't make any difference [10:50] well, it works with http and fails with ssh and sftp [10:52] it's working for me [10:55] really [10:56] slowly, because i'm on a choked connection but yes [10:56] you can access that branch i mentioned? bzr.dev? [10:58] yes [11:02] mithril:~/quake/qdp mwh$ bzr info bzr+ssh://mwhudson@bazaar.launchpad.net/~bzr/bzr/trunk/ [11:02] Location: [11:02] branch root: bzr+ssh://mwhudson@bazaar.launchpad.net/~bzr/bzr/trunk/ [11:02] etc [11:04] that fails for me [11:04] even if i take out the mwhudson :) [11:04] bizarre [11:05] that's with 0.15 i think [11:05] i doubt it's a client side thing [11:05] i can see the server saying it doesn't exist === meduxa [n=agustin@213.231.80.16.static.user.ono.com] has joined #launchpad [11:05] with spiv's nice trace feature [11:13] how very strange === mwh has a theory but really hopes it's wrong [11:15] (it is, good) [11:18] the logs from the supermirror are not exactly informative :/ === ..[topic/#launchpad:mpt] : Launchpad - https://launchpad.net/ | Next developer meeting: Thu 12 July 2007, 1400UTC (wiki:MeetingAgenda) | launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com (wiki:MailingLists) | Launchpad help: https://help.launchpad.net | Channel logs: http://tinyurl.com/72w39 === jtv [n=jtv@125-24-241-84.adsl.totbb.net] has joined #launchpad === zwnj [n=behnam@194.225.70.226] has joined #launchpad === sijin [n=sijin@203.212.234.38] has joined #launchpad === Watersevenub [n=Watersev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #launchpad === fabbione [i=fabbione@nat/canonical/x-0397fe20ba07b24d] has joined #launchpad === Lux01 [n=william@user-54412078.l6.c4.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === mwh [i=mwh@conference/europython/x-d4e5ce929a959b0b] has joined #launchpad [12:17] hi. I'm new to Launchpad and I'm having difficulty registering a bzr branch. I don't understand what format it wants the "Branch URL" to be. 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[03:44] bigjools, can you two step into #lm for one sec? === niemeyer [i=niemeyer@conference/europython/x-5005b7d636bc926c] has joined #launchpad === allenap_ is now known as allenap === meduxa [n=agustin@213.231.80.16.static.user.ono.com] has joined #launchpad === kiko is now known as kiko-afk === xerosis [n=kieran@cpc2-shep5-0-0-cust722.lei3.cable.ntl.com] has joined #launchpad === bac tea. brb [04:00] it's time for the non .au Launchpad Reviewers Meeting [04:00] who's here today? [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:01] BjornT send his apology, he's at EuroPython [04:01] bac said he'd be right back, so maybe it's just the 4 of us [04:01] Salgado is somewhere in Scotland [04:01] me [04:02] == Agenda == [04:02] * Roll call [04:02] * Next meeting [04:02] * Queue status. [04:02] * Timely assignment of queue items [04:02] Is July 19th 16:00 UTC a good time for next meeting? [04:02] err, sorry [04:02] July _18th_ [04:03] you mean instead of 1400 utc? [04:03] +1 1400 UTC [04:03] yeah, 1400 UTC [04:03] sorry [04:03] +1 [04:03] +1 === flacoste takes some deep breath to wake up [04:04] queue status: i see a big improvement on the queue from last Friday [04:04] but the queue is still huge [04:05] indeed [04:05] 35 open reviews, 28 over SLA [04:05] huge *and* colorful [04:05] what's worrying me is that we also have a lot of unallocated reviews === xerosis_ [n=kieran@cpc2-shep5-0-0-cust722.lei3.cable.ntl.com] has joined #launchpad [04:05] 16 unallocated [04:06] lifeless said that he would not be allocating reviews while he was away, did someone else take over? [04:06] what worries me is that reviewers also have a limited amount of time to resolve the review comments of their own branches too. there's a real tension there that could end up biting us. [04:06] indeed [04:07] statik: i heard james took the responsibility [04:07] but i never saw that on-list [04:07] flacoste: oh, good to know. right, I never saw an ack on-list [04:07] and i'm sure it wasn't true, otherwise james forgot to do it [04:07] flacoste: i remember the same thing. also, we're allowed to snag items off the general queue if we have some free time. i plan on doing that. [04:07] jamesh agreed to do it on irc [04:08] i'll try to take a couple later this afternoon. [04:08] he did [04:08] ? [04:08] yes [04:08] then he forgot to do it... [04:08] barry: i'll clear my queue today and continue to snag off items afterwards [04:09] i propose to keep things fair, snag branches from the top, unless of course it's your branch [04:09] barry: right [04:10] off topic: i'm pleased though with the new incremental diff support [04:11] should make allocation easier also [04:11] since you'll see the right size of the diff! [04:11] it really helped for one of the reviews i did! [04:11] yes [04:11] statik, bac: what's your availability for reviews this week? [04:12] i'm tied up most of the day. can do some tomorrow. i have an unallocated branch in the queue that will take priority when it gets reviewed. [04:12] flacoste: I have one overdue review, and have a lot of other commitments...I was actually considering rejecting the current review, but I feel too guilty to do that [04:13] I got partway through it yesterday [04:14] ok, anything else to add on queue status? [04:14] 3 [04:14] 2 [04:14] yes [04:14] ? [04:14] i have a review for barry that needs to be mentored [04:14] bac: send it my way [04:14] kiko tentatively accepted it yesterday but i may need to come back today [04:14] thanks flacoste [04:14] anything else? [04:15] moving on: Timely assignment of queue items [04:15] i think this is a follow-up from last week [04:16] do we have something else to say about this? [04:17] i don't ;) [04:17] i have a question: [04:17] anybody noticed that allocation wasn't taking place? [04:17] i did [04:18] my question is what should we do, when we notice this? [04:18] yes === mthaddon [n=mthaddon@canonical/launchpad/mthaddon] has joined #launchpad [04:19] i think prompt response to this event is needed, since the review process becomes an important plan of having a smooth time-based release [04:19] flacoste: several thoughts... [04:20] we should explicitly state who the allocator is on the PendingReviews page, and if that person is away, be explicit about handing it off to someone else (i.e. update the page) [04:20] so at least we're certain who to bug when we notice the constipation [04:20] second... [04:20] perhaps we need a cronjob or something that emails the reviews list when it sees no allocations from the general queue in a day or two, or just send that email to the allocator [04:21] it could probably be done as part of the pending-reviews script [04:21] (over) [04:22] what about spreading out the responsibility? perhaps having a non-AU person help with allocations. [04:22] lifeless: any comments on this ^^^ [04:22] bac: oh that's so low-tech it just might work :) [04:22] barry: i think we definitavely need #1 [04:23] i had a similar idea to your second suggestion, but low-tech [04:23] salgado is doing offset allocations too, but hes on leave right now [04:23] I agree that we should record who is nominated when allocations change hands temporarily [04:23] reviewers noticing a lapse in allocation should mail the person responsible cc launchpad-reviews [04:23] flacoste: +1 [04:23] if you notice constipation, why not just allocate ? [04:24] that's another possibility [04:24] I'm -1 on whinging, just dig in an fix it [04:24] send a mail saying that you ahve done an adhoc allocation sure. [04:24] i like this proposal [04:24] any objections? [04:24] but whatever reason the person allocating hasn't won't be fixed by just amiling - thus the do it and mail combination. [04:25] well, i just want to be careful not to perceive constipation when it's not there [04:25] ideally everything would be allocated always [04:25] there are some concerns [04:25] lifeless: yeah, maybe you could explain how you do the allocation? [04:26] +1, on a wiki page linked from PendingReviews preferrably [04:26] obvious criteria is previous allocation of reviewer [04:28] we also have new reviewer nominations coming up soon, so we should think about that. more reviewers would definitely help [04:29] indeed [04:29] (and graduations of currently mentored reviewers :) [04:29] problem is that if say spiv does his reviews at 9am [04:30] if I allocate at 9am, then I can see his load at the same point in his cycle each day [04:31] if I say 'hes busy, no new reviews', he does his reviews, and then someone comes along at 11am and says 'look spiv has space' this may cause uneven load [04:31] load is really the number of needs-review PLUS the number of needs-reply I think, but needs-reply could maybe be weighted lower or something [04:32] thats my only concern about any reviewer allocating as needed. But I think its better to allocate when it is congested to keep it moving. [04:32] to alleviate the "point-in-time" problem we could track the number of lines reviewed in the last week [04:33] this would give a better idea of the workload that is more independant than the time where people do reviews [04:34] flacoste: something like that might work. it should take into account merge-approved and merge-conditional for the week too, weighted down though. maybe something like lines(needs-review) + lines(merge-*, needs-reply) * 0.5 ? [04:34] I think its good to address that in reviews-in-lp [04:34] but not enough of a win to do today [04:34] congestion should be the exception no tthe rule [04:35] right [04:35] it usually work fine [04:35] I'd add a heuristic to 'its congested' - 10 unassigned is not congested.11 is [04:35] its not uncommon for me to get up and see 10 having turned up overnight/over the weekend [04:35] and we have enough reviewers that thats only a couple each [04:36] sounds good [04:36] to me congested is more two days without allocation [04:36] regardless of number of unallocated [04:36] flacoste: trust me, we can congest instantly at release time :) [04:37] i think this is a different problem [04:37] indeed :) [04:37] anyhow, the huesristic is just to put a feel on it, really use yoru common sense [04:37] the prob lem I'm concerned is that when allocation doesn't happen for two days, the newly allocated review is right over the SLA [04:37] meh, my spellink iz bustificated [04:37] use common sense: +1 on that [04:37] ok, any other comments on this topic? [04:38] 3 [04:38] 2 [04:38] 1 [04:38] I object! [04:38] :p === flacoste looks the other way [04:38] troll! [04:38] Hobbsee: can we start assigning reviews to you? :) [04:38] any other things to discuss? [04:38] 3 [04:38] barry: hah [04:39] 2 [04:39] 1 [04:39] MEETING ENDS [04:39] thanks! [04:39] Thanks everyone for attending [04:39] thanks all [04:39] barry: now i'd find that a little difficult, seeing as i couldnt access the stuff to review :P [04:39] Hobbsee: details, details :) [04:40] barry: haha. nor how to review, etc, etc :P. but mere details, yes. 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RSN. :) [09:09] yet. === orc_emac2 [n=orc_emac@adsl-76-242-0-27.dsl.wotnoh.sbcglobal.net] has joined #launchpad [09:10] RSN? [09:10] i guess i'll just have to bump a new version upload [09:11] (just seems so cluttered after making one versioning mistake :) ) [09:16] I know, right? As soon as I uploaded something to my PPA I felt the need to delete it. [09:17] hehe [09:18] there is some part of my brain incapable of seeing my mistakes until I expose them publicly [09:18] well, i often find that. (although this time it wasn't a mistake, just ignorance) === mwh [i=mwh@conference/europython/x-7100cad8cd6b494c] has joined #launchpad === mwhudson [i=mwh@conference/europython/x-33a3e3bb4f7bce40] has joined #launchpad [09:23] tsmithe! [09:23] Real [09:23] Soon [09:23] Now [09:23] :) [09:23] ahhhha [09:23] (duh! :p) [09:25] how will canonical handle copyright issues in PPAs? what about people distributing "bad" code? [09:27] tsmithe, with a Big Stick :) [09:27] more seriously [09:27] hehe [09:27] when requesting a PPA you'll be asked to accept the TOU [09:28] and we will send chinese ninjas to your home if you violate them [09:28] makes sense [09:28] err, sorry, typo [09:28] haha [09:28] I meant we will be very cross if you violate them [09:28] yes, obviously [09:28] (i don't recall accepting any TOU :p) [09:28] tsmithe, you're special! [09:28] yay! === who_cares [n=cameron@71-12-166-197.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com] has joined #launchpad === tsmithe goes to be evil [09:29] dogfoodin' the evil code [09:29] hehe === meriden_ is now known as merident === merident is now known as meriden [09:55] kiko: http://timhatch.com/projects/pybraces/ === Spads [n=spacehob@unaffiliated/spads] has joined #launchpad [10:03] LarstiQ, stop trying to scare me I'm sensitive [10:03] kiko: but you mentioned evil! [10:05] in the PPA context [10:05] OMG is that going to be in a PPA too!!! === Kmos [n=gothicx@unaffiliated/kmos] has joined #launchpad === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.121.1] has joined #launchpad === dneary [n=dneary@mne69-9-88-163-116-163.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #launchpad === fernando1 [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-c1d6d1ed4aa9486c] has joined #launchpad === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #launchpad [10:47] rargh i want to delete all these packages and start again :'( [10:48] tsmithe, :) just keep uploading and the domination code will get rid of the old ones. [10:49] well, i don't want to break upgrades between repositories, and i just realised, by bumping a version to fix the ftbfs, i already did [10:50] between repositories? [10:50] by bumping version do you mean tacking on -tsmithe2 or something different? [10:50] kiko, that kind of thing :) [10:51] that shouldn't break upgrades [10:51] by between repositories, i mean this is a preliminary package, which i hope to get uploaded to debian [10:51] hmm ok if you say so === fernando1 [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-86db19cc8a6100bb] has joined #launchpad === who_cares [n=cameron@71-12-166-197.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com] has joined #launchpad === kiko is now known as kiko-afk === intellectronica [n=intellec@host81-158-206-148.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #launchpad === xerosis [n=kieran@cpc2-shep5-0-0-cust722.lei3.cable.ntl.com] has joined #launchpad === intellectronica [n=intellec@host81-158-206-148.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #launchpad