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cjwatsonsuperm1: we sync those files from Rosetta periodically10:25
cjwatsonthey're in the debian-installer source package as far as Rosetta is concerned (allows the whole installer to be translated in one place, theoretically)10:25
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xivulonHi all10:26
xivulonI have a few questions re lupin merge10:26
xivulon1. What are the relevant branches to target? For initramfs-tools I found no dedicated branch in launchpad, shall I target the debian one?10:27
xivulonFor the initrd of the alternate/live CD what are the appropriate branches (casper for the live?).10:28
xivulon2. Shall I aim to apply the changes directly in the branches or create a separate package that adds loopmounted functionality to the initrd?10:29
xivulonOut of curiosity what is the role of debian-live in Ubuntu?10:30
cjwatsonif there is no branch, then target the source package rather than working in bzr10:32
cjwatsonsee http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallerDevelopment for alternate installer changes10:32
cjwatsoncasper has most of the interesting bits of the live initrd10:32
cjwatsonI would recommend having the changes integrated directly where possible rather than messing with a separate package10:32
cjwatsonnote that I'm currently attempting to write a partman-auto-loop component that will supersede your partitioning changes; I need to talk with Evan about that here in London though10:33
cjwatsondebian-live> we would like to work with them but aren't at present10:33
xivulonI am in London by the way10:33
xivulonif you want we can have a beer one day10:33
xivulonit's on me10:34
cjwatsonoh, whereabouts?10:34
xivulonVictoria10:34
cjwatsonthe Canonical office is in Millbank Tower, near Pimlico, so very close10:34
xivulonI leave in Pimlico in fact10:34
cjwatsoncool, maybe tomorrow evening?10:34
xivulonWhat time?10:35
cjwatsonuh, dunno, ask me tomorrow ;-)10:35
xivulonwill do10:35
cjwatsonwe tend to finish up around 6:3010:35
xivulonI normally finish a bit later than that, but I'll try to go out at 6:30 tomorrow.10:35
cjwatsonpartman-auto-loop> I was also considering a different approach, but I think it's too much work to get done for gutsy10:35
xivulonpartman changes are most welcome10:36
xivulonthat was the most shameful part of lupin10:36
cjwatsonbasically extending the partman-auto recipe format to be able to handle multiple disks and teaching it about loop-mounting10:36
cjwatsonthe multi-disk work does need to get done eventually10:36
cjwatsonbut it's really hard10:36
cjwatsonso I think for now it would be better to follow the lead of other partman-auto-* components and just hack it into place ...10:37
cjwatsonI'm making progress slowly, hope to have something sketchy to show by the end of the week maybe10:37
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xivulonI was on the slow track myself, new addition to the family...10:40
xivulonDo the live and alternate ISO share the same initrd?10:43
xivulonI wouldn't think so10:44
xivulonLast q for today for all the windows expert among you:10:44
xivulondo you know about a reliable method to map a disk device in windows to a linux device (doing that from windows)?10:45
xivulonAt the moment we use heuristic (we look for a particular filename in all partitions), but it would obviously be better to nail down the hosting device directly.10:45
cjwatsonno, they don't - the alternate ISO's initrd doesn't even use initramfs-tools10:48
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xivulonI though so ;P10:49
xivulonShall I target the alternate ISO or the Live one, or in other words, is it realistic to have the preseeding in ubiquity by gutsy?10:50
cjwatsonthe live initrd *used* to be pretty similar to the alternate initrd in some ways, but that went away with the simplified-live-cd spec in casper 1.19 (dapper)10:50
cjwatsonEvan's reporting good progress with preseeding in ubiquity10:50
cjwatsonI'd stay flexible just for the sake of convenience; partman-auto-loop will work in alternate before it works in live, assuming it works at all :-)10:50
xivulonBasically I am not going to port any code in lupin.postinst (the part that skips partman and does its mkfs and fstab creation)10:52
cjwatsonoh, drat, tomorrow evening isn't going to work10:53
cjwatsonwe're planning to go to see Spamalot then10:53
cjwatsonmaybe this evening will work out; I'll let you know later on10:53
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xivulontoday is fine for me10:53
xivulonthe later, the better10:53
CIA-19ubiquity: evand * r2147 ubiquity/ (10 files in 8 dirs):11:34
CIA-19ubiquity: * Automatic update of included source packages: base-installer11:34
CIA-19ubiquity:  1.80ubuntu2, hw-detect 1.53ubuntu1, silo-installer 1.10ubuntu4.11:34
CIA-19ubiquity: evand * r2148 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.5.512:07
evand\o/12:10
evandcjwatson: http://people.ubuntu.com/~evand/upload/12:10
evandsuperm1: fyi, bug 119562 is fixed, so parts of mythbuntu-drivers might not be relevant anymore.12:13
evandalso, I did merge your changes, I just didn't have CIA set up on this laptop at the time.12:14
CIA-19ubiquity: evand * r2149 ubiquity/ (8 files in 6 dirs): Releasing the real [1.5.5] . Fixes intltool being missing on my system.12:19
cjwatsonuploaded12:25
evandthanks12:29
CIA-19ubiquity: evand * r2150 ubiquity/ (configure configure.ac): bump to 1.5.612:31
CIA-19ubiquity: cjwatson * r2151 ubiquity/autogen.sh: add check for intltool12:33
CIA-19ubiquity: cjwatson * r2152 ubiquity/scripts/mythbuntu/ (4 files): POSIX test syntax12:57
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cjwatsonxivulon: hmm, I think I will be going elsewhere this evening03:07
cjwatsonxivulon: are you permanently based in London? if so, I'm down occasionally and we could meet up some other time03:08
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xivuloncjwatson: yes, I live in London03:14
xivuloncjwatson I'll be away after the 18 for a couple of weeks, but drop me an email if you are around03:16
xivulon the beer invitation is like novell coupons: no expiration date...03:16
xivulonxivulon at gmail.com03:17
xivulonevand, that extends to you as well03:18
cjwatsonxivulon: heh03:36
cjwatsonok, sounds good, is just hectic this week :)03:36
cjwatsonmaybe you and Evan can meet up even if I can't make it03:36
xivulonIt would be nice03:39
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evandxivulon: Thanks!  I'm free any day except tomorrow this week.  After that it's back to the US.05:06
superm1evand, thanks, i did see that bg 119562 was fixed, but haven't determined how i'm going to approach redoing a few consequences of using restricted-manager to do things.  After I sort out the current LIRC related issues, i'll revisit it05:44
xivulonevand do you want to do today around 7pm?05:47
evandsure05:51
xivulonI can come by Millbank Tower, we can meet you downstairs ~7, I have a black jacket and a cycling helmet06:14
evandok, sounds like a plan06:15
xivulonok, see you in a bit06:19
xivulonif anyone else in london wants to join, I'll see you at 706:20
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evandxivulon: still around?07:24
xivulonyep07:26
evandxivulon: going to have to take a rain check on meeting up.  I'm going on a field trip with a few others in the hopes that I can find a travel adapter for the US07:27
evandare you available Friday?07:28
xivulonnp07:28
evandThursday is Monty Python and Saturday I depart.07:28
xivulonyep we can try next friday07:28
xivulonmaybe cjwatson can join too07:29
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