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cjwatson | superm1: we sync those files from Rosetta periodically | 10:25 |
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cjwatson | they're in the debian-installer source package as far as Rosetta is concerned (allows the whole installer to be translated in one place, theoretically) | 10:25 |
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xivulon | Hi all | 10:26 |
xivulon | I have a few questions re lupin merge | 10:26 |
xivulon | 1. What are the relevant branches to target? For initramfs-tools I found no dedicated branch in launchpad, shall I target the debian one? | 10:27 |
xivulon | For the initrd of the alternate/live CD what are the appropriate branches (casper for the live?). | 10:28 |
xivulon | 2. Shall I aim to apply the changes directly in the branches or create a separate package that adds loopmounted functionality to the initrd? | 10:29 |
xivulon | Out of curiosity what is the role of debian-live in Ubuntu? | 10:30 |
cjwatson | if there is no branch, then target the source package rather than working in bzr | 10:32 |
cjwatson | see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallerDevelopment for alternate installer changes | 10:32 |
cjwatson | casper has most of the interesting bits of the live initrd | 10:32 |
cjwatson | I would recommend having the changes integrated directly where possible rather than messing with a separate package | 10:32 |
cjwatson | note that I'm currently attempting to write a partman-auto-loop component that will supersede your partitioning changes; I need to talk with Evan about that here in London though | 10:33 |
cjwatson | debian-live> we would like to work with them but aren't at present | 10:33 |
xivulon | I am in London by the way | 10:33 |
xivulon | if you want we can have a beer one day | 10:33 |
xivulon | it's on me | 10:34 |
cjwatson | oh, whereabouts? | 10:34 |
xivulon | Victoria | 10:34 |
cjwatson | the Canonical office is in Millbank Tower, near Pimlico, so very close | 10:34 |
xivulon | I leave in Pimlico in fact | 10:34 |
cjwatson | cool, maybe tomorrow evening? | 10:34 |
xivulon | What time? | 10:35 |
cjwatson | uh, dunno, ask me tomorrow ;-) | 10:35 |
xivulon | will do | 10:35 |
cjwatson | we tend to finish up around 6:30 | 10:35 |
xivulon | I normally finish a bit later than that, but I'll try to go out at 6:30 tomorrow. | 10:35 |
cjwatson | partman-auto-loop> I was also considering a different approach, but I think it's too much work to get done for gutsy | 10:35 |
xivulon | partman changes are most welcome | 10:36 |
xivulon | that was the most shameful part of lupin | 10:36 |
cjwatson | basically extending the partman-auto recipe format to be able to handle multiple disks and teaching it about loop-mounting | 10:36 |
cjwatson | the multi-disk work does need to get done eventually | 10:36 |
cjwatson | but it's really hard | 10:36 |
cjwatson | so I think for now it would be better to follow the lead of other partman-auto-* components and just hack it into place ... | 10:37 |
cjwatson | I'm making progress slowly, hope to have something sketchy to show by the end of the week maybe | 10:37 |
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xivulon | I was on the slow track myself, new addition to the family... | 10:40 |
xivulon | Do the live and alternate ISO share the same initrd? | 10:43 |
xivulon | I wouldn't think so | 10:44 |
xivulon | Last q for today for all the windows expert among you: | 10:44 |
xivulon | do you know about a reliable method to map a disk device in windows to a linux device (doing that from windows)? | 10:45 |
xivulon | At the moment we use heuristic (we look for a particular filename in all partitions), but it would obviously be better to nail down the hosting device directly. | 10:45 |
cjwatson | no, they don't - the alternate ISO's initrd doesn't even use initramfs-tools | 10:48 |
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xivulon | I though so ;P | 10:49 |
xivulon | Shall I target the alternate ISO or the Live one, or in other words, is it realistic to have the preseeding in ubiquity by gutsy? | 10:50 |
cjwatson | the live initrd *used* to be pretty similar to the alternate initrd in some ways, but that went away with the simplified-live-cd spec in casper 1.19 (dapper) | 10:50 |
cjwatson | Evan's reporting good progress with preseeding in ubiquity | 10:50 |
cjwatson | I'd stay flexible just for the sake of convenience; partman-auto-loop will work in alternate before it works in live, assuming it works at all :-) | 10:50 |
xivulon | Basically I am not going to port any code in lupin.postinst (the part that skips partman and does its mkfs and fstab creation) | 10:52 |
cjwatson | oh, drat, tomorrow evening isn't going to work | 10:53 |
cjwatson | we're planning to go to see Spamalot then | 10:53 |
cjwatson | maybe this evening will work out; I'll let you know later on | 10:53 |
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xivulon | today is fine for me | 10:53 |
xivulon | the later, the better | 10:53 |
CIA-19 | ubiquity: evand * r2147 ubiquity/ (10 files in 8 dirs): | 11:34 |
CIA-19 | ubiquity: * Automatic update of included source packages: base-installer | 11:34 |
CIA-19 | ubiquity: 1.80ubuntu2, hw-detect 1.53ubuntu1, silo-installer 1.10ubuntu4. | 11:34 |
CIA-19 | ubiquity: evand * r2148 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.5.5 | 12:07 |
evand | \o/ | 12:10 |
evand | cjwatson: http://people.ubuntu.com/~evand/upload/ | 12:10 |
evand | superm1: fyi, bug 119562 is fixed, so parts of mythbuntu-drivers might not be relevant anymore. | 12:13 |
evand | also, I did merge your changes, I just didn't have CIA set up on this laptop at the time. | 12:14 |
CIA-19 | ubiquity: evand * r2149 ubiquity/ (8 files in 6 dirs): Releasing the real [1.5.5] . Fixes intltool being missing on my system. | 12:19 |
cjwatson | uploaded | 12:25 |
evand | thanks | 12:29 |
CIA-19 | ubiquity: evand * r2150 ubiquity/ (configure configure.ac): bump to 1.5.6 | 12:31 |
CIA-19 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r2151 ubiquity/autogen.sh: add check for intltool | 12:33 |
CIA-19 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r2152 ubiquity/scripts/mythbuntu/ (4 files): POSIX test syntax | 12:57 |
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cjwatson | xivulon: hmm, I think I will be going elsewhere this evening | 03:07 |
cjwatson | xivulon: are you permanently based in London? if so, I'm down occasionally and we could meet up some other time | 03:08 |
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xivulon | cjwatson: yes, I live in London | 03:14 |
xivulon | cjwatson I'll be away after the 18 for a couple of weeks, but drop me an email if you are around | 03:16 |
xivulon | the beer invitation is like novell coupons: no expiration date... | 03:16 |
xivulon | xivulon at gmail.com | 03:17 |
xivulon | evand, that extends to you as well | 03:18 |
cjwatson | xivulon: heh | 03:36 |
cjwatson | ok, sounds good, is just hectic this week :) | 03:36 |
cjwatson | maybe you and Evan can meet up even if I can't make it | 03:36 |
xivulon | It would be nice | 03:39 |
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evand | xivulon: Thanks! I'm free any day except tomorrow this week. After that it's back to the US. | 05:06 |
superm1 | evand, thanks, i did see that bg 119562 was fixed, but haven't determined how i'm going to approach redoing a few consequences of using restricted-manager to do things. After I sort out the current LIRC related issues, i'll revisit it | 05:44 |
xivulon | evand do you want to do today around 7pm? | 05:47 |
evand | sure | 05:51 |
xivulon | I can come by Millbank Tower, we can meet you downstairs ~7, I have a black jacket and a cycling helmet | 06:14 |
evand | ok, sounds like a plan | 06:15 |
xivulon | ok, see you in a bit | 06:19 |
xivulon | if anyone else in london wants to join, I'll see you at 7 | 06:20 |
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evand | xivulon: still around? | 07:24 |
xivulon | yep | 07:26 |
evand | xivulon: going to have to take a rain check on meeting up. I'm going on a field trip with a few others in the hopes that I can find a travel adapter for the US | 07:27 |
evand | are you available Friday? | 07:28 |
xivulon | np | 07:28 |
evand | Thursday is Monty Python and Saturday I depart. | 07:28 |
xivulon | yep we can try next friday | 07:28 |
xivulon | maybe cjwatson can join too | 07:29 |
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