=== twanj [n=chatzill@c-75-74-146-27.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:25] Q-FUNK: It's unrelated. When you feel you are ready for MOTU, apply. === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Vorian [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:28] I am. Have been since oh... about 2 years now. I'm just wondering if the work I'm doing on my packages at Debian (plus responding to bugs and merging patches at Ubuntu) is sufficient. === anibal [n=anibal@debian/developer/anibal] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:28] I already was on the community agenda about 2 years ago, when application was very informal. === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hggdh [n=hggdh@pool-71-170-39-244.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === luis_lopez [n=luis@ip216-239-73-98.vif.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:40] Q-FUNK: I'd ask the people who've sponsored your work. I know Debian work was scored for nixternal and myself when we applied. === pochu [n=emilio@4.Red-88-3-54.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hggdh [n=hggdh@pool-71-170-39-244.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hggdh [n=hggdh@pool-71-170-39-244.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:41] ScottK: some of my sponsors are ubuntu core-dev. that could work. === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:59] ./c [12:59] ugh === cyberg7358 [n=cyberg73@cpe-72-184-210-189.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cyberg7358 [n=cyberg73@cpe-72-184-210-189.tampabay.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Konversation] === Mordereo [n=A@cpe-75-184-113-40.indy.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mordereo [n=A@cpe-75-184-113-40.indy.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [01:17] Q-FUNK: Sure. Just ask around among your sponsors, put together your application e-mail and cc them (make sure your wiki page is up to date too). [01:26] sounds good. === apacheLAGger [n=me@N710P025.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:32] How do I enable universe in pbuilder? [01:34] (everything on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto is for creating a new pbuilder... not adding a repo) [01:36] ryanakca: You need to modify pbuilderrc, and run pbuilder update with --override-config or similar. [01:36] I haven't used pbuilder in ages. === luis_lopez [n=luis@ip216-239-73-98.vif.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:37] Fujitsu: what do you use? plain old chroot? [01:37] ryanakca: sbuild+schroot === ryanakca is trying to build python-deb822 for dapper :) [01:37] ah === TheMuso couldn't go back to pbuilder after several weeks of using sbuild. === ryanakca googles sbuild === bryce_ [n=bryce@217.207.76.231] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:39] apt-cache show sbuild [01:39] It's non-trivial to setup, but much nicer. [01:39] ryanakca: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SbuildLVMHowto [01:39] Fujitsu: Aint that the truth./ === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:40] TheMuso: I can, easily. [01:40] Does that wiki page work nowadays? [01:40] StevenK: Enlighten me. [01:40] hmmm... LVM... that means reformatting, doesn't it? [01:41] well, repartitioning? [01:41] ryanakca: Not if you have a partition you can do away with, or non-partitioned space. [01:41] ryanakca: Not really. If you have a spare partition, mark it as type 8e. [01:41] Fujitsu, TheMuso: Must I use LVM snapshot with sbuild? [01:41] You don't have to, but it's cleaner to do so [01:41] minghua: No, but it makes things easier. [01:41] I partitioned all my space into /home or / === Fujitsu never uses anything but LVM these days. [01:42] You never know when you'll need it. [01:42] Hmm, maybe another day, then. [01:42] or wait a second... I'm never going to use that 15GB I left for the windows that came on my comp... hmmm === minghua doesn't have a large enough harddrive on this laptop to play with LVM snapshots. [01:42] Fujitsu: Do you use ext3 on LVM? [01:42] TheMuso: Normally yes. === ryanakca would switch the 200GB HD in his webserver with a cheap 40GB one, but... I don't really feel like risking messing up my server === ryanakca spent a couple days getting it setup 'just right'... [01:43] ryanakca: That's trivial if you use LVM. [01:43] Fujitsu: Even /boot is on LVM? [01:43] Ah, no. [01:43] I don't think GRUB likes that much. [01:43] I don't think that's even possible with GRUB. [01:44] Neither. [01:44] Grub is good, yet has so far to go. === Fujitsu looks at Storm. [01:44] hmmm... [01:44] Well, GRUB2 is there. === minghua never used it though. [01:45] Fujitsu: what about my rabbit? :-) [01:45] But Ubuntu doesn't use it for a reason obviously [01:45] Fujitsu: there's also the matter that my LAMP + mail server is also my pbuilder server [01:45] grub2 is getting there. rumor has that lenny might use it by default on triarch-1. === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-8-95.w81-250.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:46] TheMuso: Okay, so pbuilder is a little slow, since it unpacks a base tarball, but you can't log into a sbuild schroot when a build fails. I also find that sbuild fails to make a new snapshot, but if you try it again, it works fine. [01:46] StevenK: cowdancer and cowbuilder. === ryanakca will stick with pbuilder [01:47] cowdancer can't deal with some file modes, due to the LD_PRELOAD hack it uses. [01:47] oh? [01:47] Q-FUNK: What is triarch-1? [01:47] StevenK: I'm sure you can convince sbuild to not destroy the snapshots if the build fails. [01:47] StevenK: Ok. If a build fails with sbuild, you have a log without having to make the effort to get one. Secondly, if you set up a shared aptcache, like what I have done with my sbuild setups, you can easy chroot in, unpack source package, build-dep install deps, and attempt to build by hand if you need to. [01:47] TheMuso: Oh yes, and if your build starts a daemon like dbusd, sbuild won't umount and deactivate the sanpshots. [01:48] StevenK: --purge=successful might be what you want [01:48] Q-FUNK: Read the docs for cowbuilder. [01:48] That was fixed a couple of months ago, StevenK. [01:48] StevenK: There is a patch for the mount script to ensure everything gets killed to unmount the snapshot. [01:48] hmm... any body know of a python-deb822 package on dapper? [01:48] minghua: debian has two netinstall cd that can be used to cover 3 arch. cd#1 can do amd64,i386,powerpc. cd#2 alpha,ia64,hppa. [01:49] Fujitsu: Fixed in sbuild? [01:49] "After this finishes, you must re-log-in!" <-- why will I need that? *reading the SbuildLVMHowto* [01:49] StevenK: Or schroot, I forget. [01:49] It's in the Ubuntu package, anyway. [01:49] StevenK: Its a schroot fix actually. [01:49] Q-FUNK: I see, thanks. That is known to me as "the useful multiarch CD" :-) [01:49] In Feisty? [01:49] Ah, no. [01:49] That's prehistoric. [01:49] Don't think so. I had to manually patch mine. [01:49] Nafallo: It sets your config variables correctly. With a GUI, you only need to start a new shell. === ryanakca kindof needs it to finish his 'send my .dsc to build server, queue it, build it, put the .deb in repo, put build logs on webserver & have libnotify pop up on my desktop telling me my build is done' script :) [01:50] persia: what's wrong with sourceing the file? [01:50] StevenK: afaik the patch is linked to from the URL I gave above. [01:50] Nafallo: That might work as well. [01:51] thought so [01:51] backporting python-deb822 should be as simple as passing it threw a dapper pbuilder? [01:52] ryanakca: I'd say dependencies will have to be adjusted. [01:52] ryanakca: There's been heaps of changes to python policy: you might need to also change the install model. === ryanakca grumbles [01:53] might just be easier to rewrite the script without it :) [01:56] Hah, the Feisty version doesn't have the patch. [01:57] StevenK: You can get the patch from http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=391319 [01:57] Debian bug 391319 in schroot "schroot: leftover processes cause umount to fail" [Normal,Fixed] === Vorian [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:59] persia: Yeah, I'm reading through it now. === etank [n=etank@ubuntu/member/etank] has joined #ubuntu-motu === porthose [n=charliej@24-119-100-168.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:04] lionel: Are you in need of more help in processing the backports queue? === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === radhios_ [n=radhios@200-122-52-211.dsl.prima.net.ar] has joined #ubuntu-motu === CarlF1 [n=carl@216.146.77.157] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jml [n=jml@203-113-250-169-static.TAS.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RickH returns ... see, no flame war ensued! :) === lionel [n=lionel@ip-211.net-81-220-127.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@123.200.138.155] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hggdh [n=hggdh@pool-71-170-39-244.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === luis_lopez [n=luis@ip216-239-73-98.vif.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cynics [n=cynics@211.94.35.200] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkibras1-ff55c300-121.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Vorian_ [n=steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Acksys [n=acksys@cpe-071-070-084-000.sc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Acksys [n=acksys@cpe-071-070-084-000.sc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === alex-weej [n=alex@82.23.188.238] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:34] Regarding REVU procedure: should one send an upload notification email when reuploading something that has been corrected based on comments from the archive-admins? [03:40] are there any debian-devels willing to check http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5961 ? aoeui was rejected on the first round because the copyright file said GPLv2 or later instead of GLPv2 _only_. [03:41] ryanakca: Why limit to debian-devels? Also, if you've adjusted debian/copyright to match COPYING, you should be safe. === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:42] persia: well, anybody else, but a debian devel needs to reupload it, and then I'll have it synced to Ubuntu [03:45] ryanakca: Ah. You might want to force GPL2 in your common-licenses link then :) [03:45] ? === ryanakca grumbles [03:46] ryanakca: http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/aoeui-0707102130/aoeui-1.0.3/debian/copyright shows 1) "or any later version", and 2) points to the GPL symlink, rather than the GPL2 license. [03:47] persia: Yes. I missed something crucial as well [03:49] persia: reuploaded, just a second... I won't say anything more about the copyright file if you've missed it. [03:49] ryanakca: I'm not an expert, so if you know of something else, please fix that as well. [03:50] persia: look who it's copyright to :) [03:50] and where it was downloaded from, and the upstream author :) [03:50] ryanakca: Yes, and when, and all the additional licenses :) [03:51] I had originally packaged 1.0alpha5, and then upstream released 1.0.3, so I thought about multiple binaries since it now included aoeui and asdfg, but, I had forgotten to copy over the old debian/ when I decided to stick to single binary === rexbron [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:55] hmm.. could a debian devel now look at (and hopefully reupload) http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5962 ? [03:56] ryanakca: Separately, you might get better coverage from debian mentors: there are a number of DDs here, but not as many as there are there. [03:57] persia: hmm... on OFTC? 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[05:33] incoming should process in < 24 h anyway [05:33] monotone is currently uninstallable, and I need it [05:35] ajmitch: You need food. Do you really need monotone ;-) [05:35] yes! [05:35] and grabbing that source at 15K/sec is painful [05:35] down to 14K now [05:36] 14K from where? === ScottK is still trying to figure out why his upload showed up on his Debian package overview as incoming and then disappeared, but showed up fine on the package page and at f.d.o. [05:36] Ouch. === StevenK plots and schemes to replace a Debian server at work with Ubuntu. [05:37] StevenK: Heh do it! [05:37] Here's a related question.... [05:37] ScottK: because there's a magic window in which packages disappear [05:37] And then come back? [05:37] yes [05:37] Cool. Thanks. [05:38] there seems to be some mirroring delay at times [05:38] Hmmmm [05:38] or if it's on the mirrors, but not packages.qa.d.o, then maybe that's just not updating properly [05:38] TheMuso: The machine in question is very heavily used. I'm testing a Dapper install to see if it's doable. [05:38] StevenK: Ah ok. [05:38] I have an old Xandros 3 box (based on Debian Sarge). I'm wondering what would happen if I changed sources.list to Ubuntu and apt-get installed kubuntu-desktop? [05:39] StevenK: why do you want to convert it? [05:39] ScottK: pain & suffering [05:39] Cool. I like pain and suffering. I'll trick one of my kids into doing it. It's their computer. [05:39] ScottK: you'll need to pick through & resolve some conflicts & dependency breakage manually [05:39] I did it for sid->hoary [05:40] Right. If that's all, I should be able to manage it. [05:40] ajmitch: The Debian install is held together with sticky tape and sheer force of will. It also has software installed that is not packaged and parts of the configuration are ... interesting. [05:40] It'd be more fun to trick on of the kids into suffering through it though. [05:40] StevenK: ah, one of them [05:40] ajmitch: Yes, exactly. So me and the other sysadmin here want it to go away. [05:41] StevenK needs to have a "Hard drive failure". === ScottK also reads BOFH regularly. [05:41] rubber mallet time? [05:41] Heh, I don't think it will come to that. [05:42] Depends on how sharp the people who might care are. === StevenK is just testing package installation/configuration on a virtual Dapper installation. [05:42] the people who may care can probably find these irc logs on google :) [05:42] And then to see if the bare metal can cope with the Ubuntu kernel. [05:43] That's a good point. [05:43] About Googel. [05:43] err. Google. [05:43] Typing and Scotch don't mix. [05:43] I'm sure this StevenK isn't the one they are looking for. [05:43] but at least the scotch tastes good, I hope [05:44] It does. [05:44] It's a blend, but not bad. One can't have everything. [05:45] ScottK: Re: bug 57951, I agree [05:45] Launchpad bug 57951 in xchat "[SRU] xchat crashes frequently on quit" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/57951 [05:45] StevenK: Thanks. [05:45] ScottK: Backport a fix to -backports, sure. SRU? Nope, I don't think so. [05:46] I disposed of most of the non-emacs part of the UUS queue without uploading anything. [05:46] StevenK: Yep. [05:46] Heh, yay. [05:46] Got one all the way from a debdiff to invalid. === vbabiy [n=vbabiy@pool-71-164-85-238.albyny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ScottK ponders fixing a security issue in libnet-dns-perl. [05:48] Heh. Oops. [05:48] Apache 2 doesn't like it if you don't have any sites in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled... [05:50] (Server in question will be moving from a 2.4 kernel, postgres 7.4, and apache 1 to 2.6, postgres 8.1 and apache 2, hence all the testing) === CarlF1 [n=carl@c-76-29-9-184.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:51] Seems reasonable. === Neonightmar1 [n=neonight@23.121.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:51] StevenK: Care to offer an opinion on the fix proposed here: [05:51] http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.qpsmtpd/2006/12/msg5882.html [05:51] StevenK: That sounds like a nasty migration. Any evil proprietary stuff that isn't likely to work? [05:52] Fujitsu: Nope, it's all open source. :-) [05:52] Does anyone have a good reason to keepo 57951 in queue? Single digits would be nice :) [05:52] Ah, good. One of our clients uses a proprietary timesheeting package, which didn't like me upgrading PostgreSQL at all. [05:52] ScottK: That seems fairly ugly. [05:53] StevenK: That was sort of my response. Before I do anything I'm going to download 0.60 and see what the official fix was. [05:53] Fujitsu: We've had to write a Perl script that munges a database dump so PostgreSQL 8.1 likes it. [05:53] Ouch. [05:53] evil [05:53] Fujitsu: And the database dump is ~ 6Gb [05:53] (this server is Gentoo, so upgrades are most painful) [05:53] Hahah, big. [05:54] Ewww, Gentoo on a server. [05:54] biggest dumps I have to deal with here are 3-400MB [05:54] Have any of you dealt with a Gentoo server that hasn't been upgraded in 2 years? [05:54] Does it have speed stripes and a wing? :-P [05:54] though we have a number of databases to deal with, so the total could be several GB [05:54] StevenK: you forgot the neon glow [05:54] Sounds like billable hours, says the consultant... [05:54] Heh, yes. === man-di_ [n=mkoch@dyndsl-080-228-196-236.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:55] It's being replaced soon, so will hopefully be Etchified. [05:55] Fujitsu: Not Dapper? [05:55] is archive.ubuntu.com horribly slow for others today? [05:55] Oh come on, tar. Move it! [05:55] StevenK: Possibly. I'm yet to decide. === StevenK gets out and pushes. === ajmitch runs etch on everything here [05:56] ajmitch: I see about 300K/s from a.u.c. Perhaps it's local? [05:56] persia: you mean the piece of string from NZ to the world? quite likely === Fujitsu can see them sending data over wet string. === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-7-234.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === persia thinks someone should either pull more fiber to NZ, fix the stupid routing tables regarding traffic through AU, or just move the islands. === Fujitsu thinks AU/NZ should just vanish. [05:59] persia: southern cross cable is getting an upgrade to ~1.2Tbps, I heard [05:59] I can't see us getting any significant bandwidth in the foreseeable future. [05:59] And latency is high. [05:59] someone should increase the speed of light [05:59] Definitely. [06:00] ajmitch: That doesn't help me much, but should be better for you. [06:00] Fujitsu: Nah - just need more cables to singapore - there's decent bandwidth up north. [06:01] more cables, and lower prices per GB on them === radhios_ [n=radhios@200-122-52-211.dsl.prima.net.ar] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:02] ajmitch: That, or inflation. Abundances usually adjust pricing (e.g. cross-Asia routing price changes with FLAG introduction) [06:03] depends if there's a monopoly on the infrastructure [06:03] like telstra & telecom [06:03] ajmitch: Oh. Right. I like to avoid thinking about them :) [06:05] I really don't see how it makes any kind of sense to have the company that holds a monopoly over pretty much all infrastructure also being a consumer ISP, and being privatised. [06:05] The key question is makes sense for who. === Neonightmar1 [n=neonight@23.121.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [06:08] Fujitsu: Being? Is. [06:08] It's not fully privatised yet, is it? [06:08] Sure it is. T3 was the last chunk [06:08] Ah. Fantastic. [06:09] Fujitsu: Depends on the rent that can be collected by the polity. If the license fee for the monopoly is sufficient, it may make sense to policymakers. [06:09] Why do you think iiNet and co have raised prices all of a sudden? [06:09] StevenK: I don't monitor ISP prices much... We're stuck on Optus for the foreseeable future, so there's no point. [06:09] I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Privatising Telstra is a good move, but *only* if the infrastructure isn't there's. [06:10] Right, the infrastructure owner should be the government. [06:10] StevenK: int rand(MAX_ID) and pray for no collision is the upstream solution in 0.60. I guess if it's good enough for upstream, it's good enough for us, right? [06:10] Does Telstra still control the equipment licensing as well, or has that been retained by the government? [06:10] But if they don't have the infrastructure, then they're no different from any other ISP. [06:10] Fujitsu: Exactly. [06:11] persia: Equipment licensing was never Telstra's to begin with. [06:12] It's always been Austel. === ScottK tries out dch -s for the first time... === persia corrects my faulty memory === StevenK idly wonders if anyone has investigated why ghostscript SEGVs on ia64. [06:15] StevenK: this is why the government is forcing separation of telecom here [06:16] ajmitch: Ahh, Telecom NZ is going to be forced to release the infrastructure? [06:17] split into separate retail, wholesale & infrastructure companies, iirc [06:17] the details are being argued out at the moment === Fujitsu moves to NZ. [06:17] Heh heh [06:18] Fujitsu: Sacrificing bandwidth for freedom is brave, but is it wise? [06:18] so we'll finally get local loop unbundling this year [06:18] and maybe even get ADSL2+ this year or next, though I'm not holding my breath [06:18] Fujitsu: Did I read right that Optus is counting uploads? [06:22] Is it just me, or is tiber down? [06:23] TheMuso: Not last time I checked... [06:23] Fujitsu: ah ok, I saw something on whirlpool about it. [06:23] persia: I can ssh to it [06:24] ajmitch: Thanks. It's just me then :( [06:24] Well, I'm not sure about it... It might have changed recently. [06:24] Ah, only their new plans. [06:27] StevenK: You're a core-dev, right? [06:27] Apparently. [06:27] :-P [06:27] Would you please confirm my nominations for Dapper/Edgy in Bug #125180? [06:27] Launchpad bug 125180 in libnet-dns-perl "id sequence is predictable and the same in all child processes" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125180 [06:28] libnet-dns-perl was in Main for those releases. [06:28] The bug affects all of them. [06:28] ScottK: Done. [06:28] Thanks. === ajmitch probably won't be core dev for much longer [06:29] ajmitch: Oh? [06:29] expiry [06:29] Which just means asking the TB nicely, I thought. === ajmitch shrugs [06:30] Or somebody else asking for him so he doesn't escape so easliy. === acm_ [n=acm@p54BC2314.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:39] Heh === iceman [n=iceman@cable-87-244-153-189.upc.chello.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StevenK notes he is now heartily sick of FLAC. [06:45] ScottK: Do you need a hand with that libnet-dns-perl bug? [06:45] StevenK: Is anything left? Do you need a hand? I thought you already fixed it all. [06:46] StevenK: It's just a question of grinding through the three releases. If I get tired before I'm done, I'll let you know. [06:46] StevenK: Thanks for asking. [06:47] persia: Pretty much everything is sorted out. There are a few things still on the NBS list for ia64 since the build failed due to ghostscript SEGV'ing. [06:48] StevenK: Ah. I'm not sure I can help with that. Sorry. [06:49] persia: I'm going to ask pitti about it when he resurfaces. [06:52] Debugging ghostscript on ia64 doesn't really appeal to me, though === persia wants a tool that reviews all the files in a source tree, excerpts the copyright & licensing comments, and makes a nice report. [06:52] StevenK: Do you have ia64? [06:52] Nope. [06:53] I have access to a few, due to my shiny DD badge. [06:53] StevenK: Ah. Does Debian ghostscript also break? Perhaps you could get someone else to help... [06:55] That's a good point. [06:55] If it doesn't, I'm sure persia would gladly help you break it. [06:56] I might ask fabbionne about it, I think he has an ia64 [06:57] ScottK: I don't really know how to break ghostscript. Perhaps using it as a backend for Cocoa or Carbon? [06:57] s/backend/frontend/ === twanj [n=chatzill@c-75-74-146-27.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sindwiller [n=sindwill@84-75-101-114.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-MOTU [07:14] persia: I was just able to decline your nomination of that xchat bug for Edgy, so it works. [07:15] ScottK: Excellent. When I originally nominated that, it wasn't working :) Only 9 to do (with almost 80% waiting on emacs22). [07:16] Did you see I got the bzr-svn one all the way to invalid? [07:18] So if I do all 3 releases and ubuntu-security is subscribed, then I'm done, right? [07:19] keescook: When you wake up, Bug #125180 is ready for you to review/upload... [07:19] Launchpad bug 125180 in libnet-dns-perl "id sequence is predictable and the same in all child processes" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125180 [07:19] Hrm. Last security upload I did, pitti got me to do the upload myself. [07:20] Yes, but you're special. [07:20] That and you actually know Perl (which would be better for this particular one). [07:22] Good night everyone. I'm going to bed now that that's done. [07:24] ScottK: Good night. You're brave for 122073 - I just decided not to touch it :) [07:36] ... [07:36] Hi imbrandon. [07:36] heya persia [07:37] is bugs.launchpad.net having issues for anyone else atm? === zen-afk [i=zenrox@pool-71-115-210-186.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:39] DarkMageZ: It's working here. [07:39] fine here too [07:40] hmm, trippy. everywhere besides launchpad.net is happy. === jikanter [n=jordan@c-24-12-220-77.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jikanter [n=jordan@c-24-12-220-77.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === eagles0513875 [n=jonathan@88.203.73.158] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:49] DarkMageZ: An an update: now it's not working for me as well... [07:50] ubuntu.com is down as well? [07:50] The DC has vanished. [07:50] persia: I am having a problem with security.ubuntu.com, but not us.archive.ubuntu.com for some reason [07:50] Well, a.u.c exists, but the rest doesn't. [07:51] LP is gone, the various machines I know of are gone... [07:52] Fujitsu: Do you want to report it in #canonical-sysadmin? === persia wonders if it's a 6:30 in london thing... === Fujitsu did so. === Fujitsu wonders if he should have pinged The Big 4(tm). === gouki_ [n=gouki@ubuntu/member/gouki] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:53] I just did [07:53] Not directly at the sysadmins, though. [07:55] oops, I don't know which are the sysadmins === Fujitsu runs off home. [08:01] Fujitsu: I would be happy to try and fix it if they would let me in.... It just seems like nobody is home... [08:02] Fujitsu: did you get a response? === crevette [n=crevette@man06-2-88-167-44-76.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:07] The sysadmins are working on the problem now, apparently [08:08] Someone should put it in the topic in #ubuntu === lifeless [n=robertc@ppp245-86.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:18] hrm, is the wiki down? [08:19] sacater, lots of down atm. ubuntu.com launchpad.net [08:19] DarkMageZ: argh [08:19] launchpad is down [08:19] darnit [08:20] downtime is what happens to those who put all their eggs in one basket. === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:21] www.markshuttleworth.com is down! oh noes! [08:22] oh no! anything else :s === ajmitch was just trying to read any flames in comments about gobuntu :) [08:22] what's the point behind gobuntu anyways? don't we already have gnusence? === ajmitch shrugs [08:24] DarkMageZ: gNewSense is a response to a perceived problem in Ubuntu. Gobuntu is a response. Now for the competition for mindshare :) === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch will keep using boring old standard ubuntu === DarkMageZ waits for e18 to hit final release... [08:25] :P [08:28] you may as well wait for duke nukem forever [08:30] e18 has duke nukem forever included [08:30] its on the feature list [08:30] lol === persia suspects e18 will provide 4-D full-realism graphics running on a Altair 4004. [08:32] yeah. only 4d on those lowend systems. 5d will be available with p2 and higher :) === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu === porthose [n=charliej@24-119-100-168.cpe.cableone.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Nightrose [n=lydia@port-87-234-150-228.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:40] <\sh> guys, if there is a binary dep telling me: Depends: libasound2 (>> 1.0.10) means, that it needs at least libasound2 1.0.11, right? not only 1.0.10-2ubuntu4 [08:41] >> is >= [08:41] <\sh> ok...so there is a bug in the calculation of deps here... === CrummyGummy [n=CrummyGu@dsl-242-11-30.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tinkusam [n=tinkusam@202.53.13.106] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lifeless [n=robertc@ppp245-86.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:44] <\sh> btw...did anyone setup a nexuiz 2.3 server on feisty ? === CrummyGummy [n=CrummyGu@dsl-242-11-30.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tinkusam [n=tinkusam@202.53.13.106] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Konversation] === TheMuso returns from a walk. === Monk-e [n=guido-xu@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === crdlb [n=crdlb@unaffiliated/crdlb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=lada@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu === apachelogger [n=me@N710P025.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === apachelogger [n=me@N954P021.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bigon [i=bigon@imladris.bigon.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cassidy [n=cassidy@158.93-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [i=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkSun88 [n=Ma@ubuntu/member/darksun88] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:59] Hi all === damko [n=damko@62.123.202.104] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:08] Hi all [10:08] someone of u remember Cobalt and its products (Cube, Raq etc)? [10:09] damko, yes [10:09] i have two raq's at home [10:09] imbrandon: do u know some other appliance like that? [10:09] it seems that Sun doesn't produce them anymore [10:10] not right off, just webserver appliances? [10:10] mm no better file sharing appliance [10:10] with Pdc support [10:10] I saw some projects in launchpad but they r too new [10:11] imbrandon: I refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEasyFilePrintServer [10:11] you could try freenas [10:11] and related [10:11] http://www.freenas.org/ [10:12] imbrandon: thanks . reading === thekorn [n=thekorn@130.75.237.192] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-102.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === yamal [n=yamal@unaffiliated/yamal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === BugMaN [n=BugMaN@nat.cabi.uniroma1.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [i=zenrox@pool-71-115-210-186.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === NeilW [n=neil@84.13.106.4] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [i=daniel@nat/canonical/x-1011c8cca139efc0] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bryce_ [i=bryce@nat/canonical/x-7b780ef724a11cf5] has joined #ubuntu-motu === blackskad [n=blackska@d54C4A53D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Bassetts [n=Bassetts@unaffiliated/bassetts] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vorlon [i=vorlon@dsl093-039-086.pdx1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === calc [i=ccheney@nat/canonical/x-d34b6439f518e382] has joined #ubuntu-motu === IanC26 [n=IanC26@2002:908b:a533:4:216:6fff:fe39:ff6e] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thekorn_ [n=thekorn@130.75.237.192] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-051-073.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:40] vim-rails upload to REVU (http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5966). Could one of you kind MOTUs take a look. Thanks. === blueCommand [n=bluecomm@unaffiliated/bluecommand] has joined #ubuntu-motu === CrummyGummy [n=CrummyGu@dsl-242-11-30.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkibras1-ff55c300-121.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === guardian_ [n=Guardian@ANantes-252-1-52-48.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nrpil [n=nrpil@s5591f679.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@18-62.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === beuno [n=martin@ubuntu/member/beuno] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rraphink [i=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thekorn_ [n=thekorn@130.75.237.192] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nicke [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RainCT [n=RainCT@77.210.63.250] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mok0 [n=mok@0xc3f966f5.slnxr2.ras.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-102.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:15] ./` ... she was up when the key hit the lock, and the clock looked at me just like the devil in discuise ... ./` ./` === Vorian [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-motu === icf7 [n=icf7@WL-POOL04-47.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:18] yay for glibc 2.6 === DktrKranz [n=Luca@ubuntu/member/dktrkranz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-105-6.auto.rp80.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === BugMa1 [n=BugMaN@nat.cabi.uniroma1.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === yamal [n=yamal@unaffiliated/yamal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tru_`z24 [n=truz_`24@74-129-166-232.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === EtienneG [n=etienne@ubuntu/member/EtienneG] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:47] If there is someone here who's running Gutsy, would you please install clamav and see if you get an error installing. I've got Bug #125169, Bug #125184, and/or Bug #125230 that I suspect are dupes of Bug #124141, but I can't tell for sure. [01:47] Launchpad bug 125169 in clamav "package clamav 0.90.3-2ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125169 [01:47] Launchpad bug 125184 in clamav "package clamav-freshclam 0.90.3-2ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: le sous-processus post-installation script a retourn une erreur de sortie d'tat 139" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125184 [01:47] Launchpad bug 125230 in clamav "package clamav-daemon 0.90.3-2ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: problemas de dependencias - se deja sin configurar" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125230 [01:47] Launchpad bug 124141 in linux-source-2.6.22 "kernel bug when installing clamav-freshclam" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124141 [01:54] ScottK: works for me [01:54] Linux augustine 2.6.22-6-generic #1 SMP Fri Jun 1 00:54:39 GMT 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux [01:54] Flip. [01:54] not the latest 2.6.22, and amd64 [01:55] Hmmm. Since I know there's a kernel issue in there somewhere, it may be architecture specific or in a newer kernel than you've got. Thanks. === ScottK takes notes. [01:55] np === imbrandon yawns [01:56] moins ajmitch ScottK [01:57] Heya imbrandon. How is Kansas City these days? [01:57] hi imbrandon === ajmitch is about to go & sleep [01:57] good good ScottK [01:57] bout to get remarried sometime this month [01:57] heh [01:57] so i guess its good [01:57] Ah. Congrats. [01:58] oh? [01:58] good work [01:58] well we were married for 3 years, split, dident see each other for 8 years , now its back on like donky kong :) [01:58] kinda strange [01:58] haha [01:58] lol [02:01] not every day that happens :) [02:01] got aurora back up & running? [02:01] i looked at it last night, i think i'm just gonna replace the mb and proc , i wanted to add sata ports anyhow [02:01] for the raid [02:01] ok [02:02] <\sh> imbrandon: marriage v2.0? :) [02:02] see django.ajmitch.net.nz/rcbugs/ [02:02] \sh, hehe yea [02:02] I want to stick stuff like that on it [02:02] <\sh> imbrandon: congrats :) lucky man I say :) [02:03] ajmitch, wanna put it on my webserver that hosts ubuntustudio.org and imbrandon.com ? [02:03] maybe [02:03] probably be more reliable [02:03] though I want to be able to hack the code as needed [02:03] as i monitor the uptime on it [02:03] yea i would give you ssh [02:03] DB permissions? [02:04] lemme see if i can get django working on lighttpd , yea you can have as much db space as needed [02:04] it still has 600GB of space [02:04] imbrandon: Thats great to hear. Good luck with it, and I hope things work out better tis time. [02:04] right, will I have db create, table create/delete, etc? [02:04] s/tis/this/ [02:04] yea i'll just give ya full perms on a db named like ajmitch [02:04] k [02:04] TheMuso, thanks [02:05] main thing is makin sure django works on lighttpd , perms i trust you enough to give you sudo etc, and as i'm the only other one with shell access to the webserver it should be cool [02:06] right, I'll try not to break anything [02:06] give me a few to check into the django thing , if its all good i can set it up in moments [02:06] not sure if anyone will use this stuff, but oh well [02:06] django & lighttpd should be simple [02:06] yea should be === ajmitch isn't committed to django either, it just seems to work without too much frustration === yamal [n=yamal@llibertat.guifi.cat] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch sleeps [02:16] ajmitch, one sec [02:17] make it quick :) [02:17] i almost have everything setup lemme give you the info [02:17] you can ssh with your key === dholbach [i=daniel@nat/canonical/x-2caebb8e441561da] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:17] k [02:17] i'll pm the sudo passwd [02:17] and setting up the db now [02:17] send via mail, gpg [02:17] k [02:18] http://ajmitch.ubuntuwire.com/ [02:18] ok, thanks [02:19] that's voyager? 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