[12:31] <geek_> hey guys
[12:32] <geek_> whenever i change a setting in mythtv-setup
[12:32] <geek_> it doesn't show the change
[12:32] <geek_> like when i add a new capture card
[12:32] <geek_> then click finish
[12:32] <geek_> it doesn't show the capture card
[12:32] <geek_> what is the problem?
[12:33] <superm1> geek_, corrupted database?
[12:34] <foxbuntu_> superm1: hows it goin?
[12:34] <superm1> ok
[12:41] <foxbuntu_> hows the code coming along
[12:41] <superm1> i'm still at work
[12:41] <superm1> haven't touched today
[12:42] <foxbuntu_> oh
[12:42] <foxbuntu_> I just hit my chair
[12:42] <foxbuntu_> I think its bad when I left today...I was the last one there..and i am the consultant
[12:44] <superm1> that is bad.
[12:46] <superm1> foxbuntu_, did you get my pm?
[12:46] <superm1> or no
[12:46] <foxbuntu_> yea
[12:46] <superm1> ook
[12:46] <foxbuntu_> I just saw it
[12:47] <foxbuntu_> thats awesome...I will have to check it out
[12:47] <foxbuntu_> this is my windows machine
[12:48] <foxbuntu_> i will look into it
[12:48] <superm1> http://www.silverex.org/news/
[12:48] <foxbuntu_> got it
[12:50] <foxbuntu_> lmao
[12:51] <foxbuntu_> that blender shredded that phone
[12:52] <foxbuntu_> thats awesome
[12:54] <foxbuntu_> brb
[12:57] <foxbuntu> ok superm1 I am on X-chat 2 now
[12:57] <superm1> your registered with nickserv right?
[02:10] <varun0> is mythbuntu 7.10 stable enough for general usage?
[02:12] <geek_> yay i got it to work
[02:12] <geek_> i thought it was gonna be impossible
[02:13] <geek_> got my ati card to work with my tv tuner and mythtv
[02:13] <geek_> finally
[02:13] <varun0> geek_: what version of mythbuntu are you using?
[02:13] <geek_> the newest
[02:13] <varun0> 7.1?
[02:14] <geek_> ya
[02:14] <geek_> had trouble configuring everything because i have ATI card
[02:14] <varun0> ah
[02:14] <varun0> yea
[02:14] <varun0> I've had horrible experiences with ATi
[02:15] <geek_> ATI cards are not recommended at this point in time. ATI currently does not support running MythTV on their hardware, and have no timeline for when this might change.
[02:15] <geek_> after i read that
[02:15] <geek_> i thought there was no hope
[02:15] <geek_> wow, it feels really good when i finally get something to work
[02:16] <varun0> geek_: heh.....yea.......know the feeling. Congratulations! :-)
[02:19] <tgm4883_laptop> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+spec/miguel is this for real?
[02:24] <foxbuntu> thats insane
[02:28] <a5benwillis> can anyone help me whith the commands to repair my eit cache table in mysql?
[02:28] <tgm4883_laptop> thats what I was thinking
[02:29] <foxbuntu> it would be much easier to have phpmyadmin o do it
[02:30] <foxbuntu> sudo apt-get update && apt-get install phpmyadmin
[02:31] <foxbuntu> then you can access your DB with a WebUI with functions to do repairs and such
[02:32] <foxbuntu> with just a web broswer...http://localhost/phpmyadmin or http://you-mythbuntu-ip/phpmyadmin from another machine on your network
[02:40] <a5benwillis> argh
[02:41] <a5benwillis> cant get into phpadmin either
[02:41] <foxbuntu> what userid did you use to login?
[02:41] <foxbuntu> or you cant get into the it at all
[02:41] <foxbuntu> ?
[02:41] <a5benwillis> cant get into it
[02:41] <a5benwillis> cant even see it
[02:42] <foxbuntu> do you get an error when you try to access it?
[02:42] <a5benwillis> its installed though
[02:42] <a5benwillis> cant see the directory
[02:42] <a5benwillis> if I type the path it says not found
[02:42] <foxbuntu> well it should be in /var/www/phpmyadmin
[02:43] <a5benwillis> not there
[02:43] <foxbuntu> is this a frontend or backend or both?
[02:43] <a5benwillis> both
[02:43] <foxbuntu> did you chose to install mythweb when you setup mythbuntu?
[02:43] <a5benwillis> yes
[02:43] <a5benwillis> its there
[02:45] <foxbuntu> and phpmyadmin had no errors after the apt-get?
[02:45] <a5benwillis> none
[02:46] <a5benwillis> how can i remove it completely
[02:46] <foxbuntu> apt-get remove --purge phpmyadmin
[02:47] <foxbuntu> why do you need to reapir the cache table?
[02:47] <a5benwillis> getting an error in mythbackend.log
[02:48] <a5benwillis> Table './mythconverg/eit_cache' is marked as crashed and should be repaired
[02:48] <foxbuntu> ok
[02:51] <a5benwillis> finally!
[02:51] <a5benwillis> had to reinstall
[02:51] <a5benwillis> then purge
[02:51] <foxbuntu> ok
[02:51] <foxbuntu> strange
[02:51] <foxbuntu> did you try before?
[02:51] <a5benwillis> then reinstall it again to get it to create the files in var/www
[02:52] <a5benwillis> now, what do I do in there to repair the table?
[02:52] <foxbuntu> did you get into it?
[02:52] <a5benwillis> yes
[02:52] <foxbuntu> click the drop down for "Databases"
[02:52] <a5benwillis> got the same error on the eit_cache table
[02:53] <foxbuntu> and select mythconverg
[02:53] <a5benwillis> did
[02:53] <foxbuntu> click the check box next to eit_cache
[02:53] <foxbuntu> hen scroll to the bottom...there is a drop down for actions "Repair"
[02:54] <foxbuntu> and it should repair the table and give you a status
[02:54] <a5benwillis> dont see actions
[02:54] <a5benwillis> found it
[02:55] <a5benwillis> all fixed now
[02:55] <foxbuntu> good
[02:55] <a5benwillis> thanks alot man.. wondered why EIT stopped working
[02:55] <foxbuntu> that is a whole lot easier than doing it from the mysql command line
[02:56] <a5benwillis> no kidding
[02:56] <a5benwillis> needed phpmyadmin working anyway
[02:56] <foxbuntu> indeed
[03:08] <foxbuntu> openMedia, how are things with you
[03:08] <foxbuntu> ?
[03:10] <OpenMedia> Hiya.. Busy trying to do "real work"
[03:10] <OpenMedia> Hows the ivtv card these days
[03:12] <foxbuntu> good..has a gitter now and then...but I think that acutally might just be my slack ass cable provider
[03:12] <foxbuntu> thanks for that tip
[03:13] <foxbuntu> i hear ya on real work
[03:13] <OpenMedia> Hey no worries. I've hit that one myself.
[03:18] <foxbuntu> I think we should add a cron job to run db work once a week or something...keep the overhead walking down
[03:19] <foxbuntu> not walking
[03:19] <foxbuntu> lol
[03:19] <foxbuntu> doing too many things at once
[03:19] <OpenMedia> What DB walking are you talking about.
[03:19] <foxbuntu> I just meant to keep the overhead down
[03:19] <foxbuntu> in mythconverg
[03:20] <OpenMedia> I'm surprised at all of the DB errors you guys keep talking about.
[03:20] <foxbuntu> not really an error...but it can cause them
[03:22] <foxbuntu> I want to sit down and try to pull some better performace out of db...but I need to model it and see what I could do about it
[03:22] <OpenMedia> The schema is hardly complex.
[03:22] <foxbuntu> i know
[03:22] <OpenMedia> Have you played with dbvis ?
[03:22] <foxbuntu> no
[03:22] <OpenMedia> Java app, but great for reversing a DB schema
[03:24] <foxbuntu> looks like it
[03:24] <foxbuntu> grabbing a copy now
[03:26] <foxbuntu> thanks for the idea
[03:26] <foxbuntu> again
[03:30] <foxbuntu> strange though it wont connect to my mythbox...and he error is returning like it trying o connect to localhost
[03:42] <foxbuntu> superm1, hey
[03:42] <superm1> good evening
[03:43] <foxbuntu> superm1, I shouldnt have to add my other ip's to access my sql from my windows box should I, since I have other myth boxes on it
[03:43] <superm1> everything on the same subnet should already be able to
[03:43] <superm1> there is a permissions line in the postinst of mythtv-database that should handle it
[03:43] <foxbuntu> thats what I figured
[03:44] <foxbuntu> hmm
[03:44] <foxbuntu> I wonder if its because my root doesnt have a password
[03:45] <superm1> what are you trying to do?
[03:46] <foxbuntu> OpenMedia suggested a tool to do DB modeling...and I was going to try it out
[03:46] <superm1> DB modeling?
[03:46] <superm1> oh to try to find a better way to store the DB?
[03:46] <superm1> for better speed
[03:46] <foxbuntu> yea
[03:47] <superm1> ah that'd be pretty nifty
[03:47] <foxbuntu> indeed
[03:47] <superm1> if you want to give root a password do it like this:
[03:47] <superm1> sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.0
[03:47] <superm1> followed by
[03:47] <superm1> sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database
[03:47] <foxbuntu> another thing we might add is a cron job to run like once every other week to do a db optimize on the backend
[03:48] <superm1> well that is supposed to be automatic in 0.21 i believe
[03:48] <superm1> i thought i overheard that somewhere
[03:48] <superm1> laga,maybe
[03:48] <foxbuntu> that would be great
[03:48] <foxbuntu> I do mine about every three weeks and it seems to keep things smooth
[03:49] <superm1> my box i've not needed to ever
[03:50] <superm1> things appear to be fine as is
[03:50] <foxbuntu> but you run a frontend backend config which helps alot
[03:51] <foxbuntu> but you should check out the db overhead you have
[03:51] <foxbuntu> I bet its huge
[03:51] <foxbuntu> Product:  DbVisualizer Free 6.0
[03:51] <foxbuntu> Build:  #1247 (2007/07/09 19:06)
[03:51] <foxbuntu> Java VM:  Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM
[03:51] <foxbuntu> Java Version:  1.5.0_10-b03
[03:51] <foxbuntu> Java Vendor:  Sun Microsystems Inc.
[03:51] <foxbuntu> OS Name:  Windows XP
[03:51] <foxbuntu> OS Arch:  x86
[03:51] <foxbuntu> OS Version:  5.1
[03:51] <foxbuntu> An error occured while establishing the connection:
[03:51] <foxbuntu>    Type: java.sql.SQLException   Error Code: 1045   SQL State: 28000
[03:51] <foxbuntu> Message:
[03:51] <foxbuntu>    Access denied for user 'root'@'192.168.1.131' (using password: YES)
[03:52] <superm1> !pastebin | foxbuntu
[03:52] <ubotu> foxbuntu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:52] <foxbuntu> there is my error
[03:52] <foxbuntu> ...
[03:52] <foxbuntu> fine
[03:52] <foxbuntu> in the future I will patebin it
[03:52] <superm1> its java based  - why not just run it on a jvm on linux then?
[03:52] <superm1> what user name are you providing for root?
[03:52] <superm1> *password
[03:52] <superm1> none?
[03:52] <foxbuntu> root
[03:52] <superm1> or did yo uhave one set
[03:53] <foxbuntu> with a password
[03:53] <foxbuntu> I set it
[03:53] <foxbuntu> and verfied it with phpmyadmin
[03:53] <superm1> well root might be disabled for anything but 127.0.0.1
[03:53] <foxbuntu> i supposed
[03:53] <superm1> 'mythtv' is accessible otherwise
[03:53] <superm1> elsewhere
[03:53] <superm1> so why not just run it on linux?
[03:53] <superm1> its a java analyzer
[03:53] <superm1> same jvm
[03:54] <foxbuntu> I know...but I dont have the linux lappy booted up
[03:54] <superm1> so do it via ssh?
[03:54] <foxbuntu> meh
[03:54] <foxbuntu> you know me
[03:55] <superm1> okay well you either do it via ssh or add permissions for root access remotely
[03:55] <superm1> your cal
[03:55] <superm1> call
[03:57] <foxbuntu> got it
[03:57] <foxbuntu> root was added as localhost only
[03:57] <foxbuntu> so I added a new user
[03:59] <foxbuntu> OpenMedia you are the man, this tool rocks
[04:00] <foxbuntu> I sould be able to opimize the schema from this
[04:18] <foxbuntu> superm1: the schema of this db seems to be all done as independant tables
[04:18] <superm1> right
[04:19] <foxbuntu> I am still looking at the best way to clean up the use of the db
[04:25] <foxbuntu> superm1, it almost seems to me that spliting some of the tables up or making a syncable backend db for use with mythweb seperate of the usual db
[04:25] <superm1> foxbuntu, you should be directed this at mythtv devs, not me  :)
[04:25] <OpenMedia> foxbuntu: Yeah I've noticed that. There aren't any real hardcoded relationships in the schema.
[04:25] <superm1> i'm not going to change the entire SQL backend, whereas they will :)
[04:26] <OpenMedia> Best bet might be to consider any simple tuning, indexes etc
[04:26] <foxbuntu> well then what good are you superm1?
[04:26] <foxbuntu> :)
[04:27] <foxbuntu> well..I have done some tuning to mine before and not gotten much for result..and after looking deeper into the issue it seems to be a table locking issue causing the speed to slow
[04:27] <foxbuntu> becuase inserts take priority over selects
[04:28] <OpenMedia> What are you finding as the worst offender? I find mythfilldatabase hits my machine hard when its a big update
[04:28] <foxbuntu> so while the DB is being modified it will always be slow pulling info in MythWeb or the recordings
[04:28] <OpenMedia> Wondering if reducing the log level for the SQL db would help
[04:29] <foxbuntu> that would help with performance some
[04:29] <foxbuntu> but the real issue seems to be priority
[04:30] <OpenMedia> Within the database?
[04:30] <foxbuntu> yea
[04:31] <OpenMedia> Have you asked around on the mythtv-users list about optimising it?
[04:31] <foxbuntu> not yet...I wanted to have an idea to go off of first
[04:33] <OpenMedia> Personally a lot of the schema stinks, there are a lot of very obvious relationships. I have a feeling a lot of code would break if they were enforced.
[04:35] <foxbuntu> indeed
[04:36] <OpenMedia> One reason I default to a dual core with myPVR these days is to avoid the impact of some of the bigger DB updates.
[04:36] <foxbuntu> its been slapped in on every version...it doesnt appear to have any real attention to it as long as it works
[04:37] <OpenMedia> They are still considering a move to SQLLite or another system in the future as they don't really need mySQL
[04:40] <foxbuntu> yea...MySQL does have alot more overhead than some others...which would help free up memory, but thats sill more like throwing money at the problem
[05:02] <foxbuntu> ok, heres the scoop
[05:04] <foxbuntu> Mythweb is going to undergo a revamp to ajax in a month or two (the commit to svn at least) and there is some perforamce to be had in tuning the MySQL options. Also SQLLite is out becuase it is tested as being slower than MySQL
[05:06] <foxbuntu> OpenMedia, so my plan is to play with the MySQL options and see if I can improve the overall performace and get superm1 to add it to his favorite part of the MythBuntu install
[05:20] <foxbuntu> superm1,
[05:20] <foxbuntu> you around?
[05:20] <superm1> foxbuntu, i'll be back in 15 min
[05:20] <superm1> or so
[05:20] <foxbuntu> kk
[05:27] <OpenMedia> foxbuntu: If you get anything good let me know and I'll test on my HW.
[05:28] <foxbuntu> I have a good idea lead...I am going to drop it in on my myth and then I will let you know what I did so you can test as well
[05:31] <superm1> foxbuntu, okay back
[05:31] <superm1> your show was meh
[05:31] <superm1> burn notice
[05:32] <OpenMedia> Hmm Watched episode one of that and I wasn't impressed.
[05:32] <foxbuntu> the second was better
[05:32] <OpenMedia> Anyone here watched Meadowlands on Showtime.. Now thats an odd show
[05:32] <foxbuntu> what about Lil' Bush superm1
[05:33] <superm1> that was pretty bad i thought
[05:33] <OpenMedia> foxbuntu: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Optimizing_Performance#MySQL_Tweaks
[05:33] <foxbuntu> give it another show...I didnt really like that last one either
[05:45] <foxbuntu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29432/
[05:45] <foxbuntu> someone tell me what I am missing here
[05:52] <foxbuntu> well that seems to help a good ammount
[05:53] <foxbuntu> not exactly those settings but I figured out hom much ram the db actually needs and all the buffers were too small
[05:58] <foxbuntu> OpenMedia, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29433/, see at the bottom where I added the MythBuntu Tuning section
[06:00] <foxbuntu> it looks like it is making a good bit of difference with Mythweb
[06:00] <foxbuntu> superm1, did you catch that?
[06:08] <OpenMedia> foxbuntu: Whats the impact to the memory use of the mysql db?
[06:08] <superm1> foxbuntu, if you get a good set of parameters that work, they can actually be applied to the regular mythtv packages
[06:08] <superm1> there is an easy architecture to add such things in place now
[06:10] <foxbuntu> MySQL server is using about the same about of ram, but under high usage it will be allowed up to ~40M more than before
[06:11] <foxbuntu> and than has seemed to help MythWeb out alot
[06:13] <foxbuntu> as for MythFrontend...the wife has the TV tied up so I can't test it yet
[06:15] <foxbuntu> Otherwise I am liking this config for it
[06:19] <foxbuntu> get a couple more test backends going on this and see what results everyone else has
[06:20] <foxbuntu> OpenMedia you up to get one of these machines in testing?
[06:21] <foxbuntu> superm1, how would I go about sending a config file change such as this in to the MythTV packages? (After testing has been completed)
[06:22] <superm1> dont worry about the how, its pretty straightforward
[06:22] <OpenMedia> I'll have a try later if I get a chance. Still in "real work" mode, and the test backend is busy running tests.
[06:24] <OpenMedia> I've logged it in my trac system as a todo for the next round of testing.
[06:25] <foxbuntu> ok
[06:26] <foxbuntu> I will play with it alot more over the few days and see how the results are affected by those settings
[06:30] <foxbuntu> my recordings menu does appear faster as well
[06:42] <foxbuntu> superm1, so how many dl's have you seen so far on the iso?
[06:42] <superm1> havent watched
[06:43] <foxbuntu> oh
[06:47] <foxbuntu> your server is slow tonight
[06:47] <foxbuntu> only pull 400k tonight
[06:54] <clarkey>  Hi wondering if anyone could help trying to set up a MythTV box nearly all done all that is left is to get the remote working (some of the buttons work ie. numbers and left right up down but the others don't) I have tried to set up lirc but get errors any one that could help? spent all day trying to work this out i am relatively new to linux so its a hard one and any help would be very appreciated
[06:54] <clarkey> Ps Using Ubuntu Feisty
[06:54] <foxbuntu> have you used the Wiki?
[06:55] <clarkey> on setting up lirc
[06:55] <foxbuntu> yes
[06:55] <clarkey> yea
[06:55] <clarkey> i get down to setting up lircd.conf with irrecord
[06:55] <foxbuntu> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Feisty
[06:55] <foxbuntu> that one?
[06:56] <clarkey> yea
[06:56] <foxbuntu> which remote?
[06:56] <clarkey> Compro
[06:58] <clarkey> the one that comes with the videomate DVB-T300
[06:58] <foxbuntu> ok
[07:00] <foxbuntu> what do you get for errors/results?
[07:00] <clarkey> irrecord gives : irrecord: could not init hardware (lircd running ? --> close it, check permissions)
[07:01] <clarkey> sudo modprobe lirc_gpio gives: irrecord: could not init hardware (lircd running ? --> close it, check permissions)
[07:03] <superm1> clarkey, i doubt that second output
[07:03] <superm1> when you modprobe lirc_gpio
[07:03] <superm1> it should be something different than that
[07:05] <clarkey> and when i look up dmesg it says: [  676.108000]  cx2388x v4l2 driver version 0.0.6 loaded
[07:05] <clarkey> [  681.980000]  lirc_gpio: Unknown symbol bttv_get_cardinfo
[07:05] <clarkey> [  681.980000]  lirc_gpio: Unknown symbol bttv_get_gpio_queue
[07:05] <clarkey> [ 2207.604000]  lirc_gpio: Unknown symbol bttv_get_cardinfo
[07:06] <clarkey> [ 2207.604000]  lirc_gpio: Unknown symbol bttv_get_gpio_queue
[07:06] <clarkey> does that give you any clues
[07:06] <clarkey> copied it straight from the terminal
[07:06] <clarkey> ohh sorry
[07:06] <clarkey> musnt have copied brb
[07:06] <clarkey> FATAL: Error inserting lirc_gpio (/lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/misc/lirc_gpio.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[07:07] <superm1> right
[07:07] <superm1> okay thats what i would have expected
[07:07] <clarkey> sorry used to being able to use CTRL C
[07:07] <superm1> that would mean that a dependency of the driver isn't able to load
[07:07] <superm1> try to rebuild the driver i would say
[07:07] <superm1> per hte directions at the bottom of that wiki page
[07:09] <clarkey> kk ill give it a try
[07:10] <clarkey> am i supposed to remlace 'uname -r' with something
[07:10] <clarkey> ?
[07:11] <superm1> just like this
[07:11] <superm1> `uname -r
[07:11] <superm1> `uname -r`
[07:11] <superm1> with the dash next to your 1 key
[07:12] <clarkey> ahh
[07:17] <clarkey> did that all tried irrecord and got the same error
[07:17] <clarkey> got some message with sudo /etc/init.d/lirc restart saying:
[07:17] <clarkey> Stopping lirc daemon: lircmd lircd.
[07:17] <clarkey> ##################################################
[07:17] <clarkey> ## LIRC IS NOT CONFIGURED                       ##
[07:17] <clarkey> ##                                              ##
[07:17] <clarkey> ## read /usr/share/doc/lirc/html/configure.html ##
[07:17] <clarkey> ##################################################
[07:17] <clarkey> Starting lirc daemon:.
[07:21] <clarkey> any more insights?
[07:22] <superm1> check if the modprobe works now
[07:23] <clarkey> same gpio error
[07:24] <superm1> well i'm not too sure what the cause of that would be offhand then
[07:24] <superm1> you might want to post on the forums
[07:26] <clarkey> thanks for your help
[07:27] <superm1> sorry couldnt be more help.  good luck
[09:28] <superm1> Daviey,
[09:28] <superm1> you here
[09:31] <Daviey> hey superm1, briefly
[09:31] <superm1> okay i'll just send a mail to the mailing list then
[09:32] <superm1> reply at your convenience
[09:32] <Daviey> np
[11:17] <laga> superm1: it was not me who told you that 0.21 might clean the DB automagically. it was someone in #mythtv, AFAIK. it's not implement yet as fasr as i remember
[04:18] <pyron84> hi guys does anyone know how to setup a ic which is built in in a hauppage hvr 900 usb dvb-t stick ?
[07:16] <tafkaz> hi there
[07:16] <tafkaz> i set up mythtv on my new asus pundit ah2
[07:16] <tafkaz> and now i just cant get the tv-card to work
[07:17] <tafkaz> i have a twin-lnb here (astra/Hotbird) and a haupauge Nova S-plus
[07:17] <tafkaz> anyone has some time to help a desperate one ?
[07:18] <tafkaz> i have tv with kaffeine...so i really think its some prolem i have with myth...
[07:19] <laga> join #mythtv-de or #mythtv-users
[07:19] <tafkaz> ok i'll do that !
[07:19] <tafkaz> thanks
[07:30] <tafkaz> hi me again....could you please indicate me to mythtv-de again....i cant seem to find it !
[07:32] <tafkaz> ups found it !
[09:01] <tgm4883> I just had an idea for a feature, but not sure who to pitch it to.  Probably the mythtv guys, anyhow I'd like to know what you think.  Basically it would be a plugin for laptops (although it would run on all mythtv boxes).  This plugin would allow you to select some shows on a frontend, then the shows would download to the laptop.  Then while you were away on a trip, in the car, etc, you could bust open mythtv on your laptop
[09:01] <tgm4883> and watch the shows you downloaded from your backend.  This would probably require some form of fallback and local database since the master backend would be unavailable.
[09:02] <tgm4883> im not sure how feasible this is, but i come up with ideas from time to time
[09:02] <tgm4883> anyway, have an errand to run, back in about an hour
[09:02] <laga> maybe this could be archived with an user job
[09:03] <laga> the mythtv devs probably won't like this kind of thing a lot because it looks a lot file sharing
[09:03] <laga> dunno what they'd say, though
[09:03] <laga> it might be easier to copy the shows and use mplayer
[09:04] <superm1> i've copied shows over and used vlc/totem
[09:04] <superm1> only problem is you have a lack of comm flagging there
[09:04] <laga> hum
[09:04] <superm1> so the most ideal thing to do i think
[09:04] <laga> you could cut them before copying
[09:04] <superm1> is if you could export a sql file
[09:04] <superm1> with all the skippijng and comm flagging info
[09:05] <superm1> and then if you provide mythfrontend those two files
[09:05] <superm1> it is intelligent enough to sort it out
[09:06] <laga> use nuvexport to export that sql file and the recording.
[09:06] <superm1> so it would be a matter of teaching mythfrontend to work without a db if its provided those two files as arguments
[09:09] <laga> sounds like a fun job
[09:16] <superm1> So i'm in the UMC meeting right now, and they had a hard time getting a mailing list too :)
[09:17] <laga> heh
[09:17] <laga> almost forgot we had a mailing list
[09:18] <superm1> laga, no one has responded to my lirc troubles :)
[09:19] <laga> i'm gonna read your email now
[09:29] <laga> i'll reply later, need to clean the kitchen now
[09:29] <laga> but i'd like so say one thing:
[09:29] <laga> thanks for making a mythtv distro that *i* want to use.
[09:32] <superm1> :)
[09:32] <superm1> cya later then~
[12:04] <tgm4883> So for those that saw it, was my idea good or not so much?
[12:06] <superm1> tgm4883, i see it as useful, but likely it would be better implemented upstream
[12:06] <tgm4883> thats what I thought
[12:06] <superm1> because working out the symantics of a local mysql server would become quite a mess
[12:07] <tgm4883> it would work as a plugin, but either way, there would have to be some sort of fallback with the frontend
[12:07] <superm1> at the same time it brings up an idea that i've hoped to see implemented somewhere eventually
[12:07] <superm1> add a myth:// plugin to vlc
[12:07] <superm1> that can learn how to use comm skipping
[12:07] <superm1> and such
[12:08] <superm1> and within that plugin you can either provide a myth server or a sql file
[12:08] <tgm4883> that would be nice
[12:08] <tgm4883> i really should install vnc
[12:09] <superm1> Chadarius, are you here?
[12:09] <superm1> tgm4883, speaking of plugins
[12:09] <superm1> anything regarding unofficial plugins?
[12:11] <tgm4883> :( not yet, i've been slowly working on it, but I really think I will be able to dedicate a large chunk of time to it by friday
[12:11] <superm1> good good
[12:11] <tgm4883> I'll need your input on the licensing and such that I have to put in
[12:12] <superm1> well worry about the initial packaging concerns and getting it to build correctly for gutsy
[12:12] <superm1> i'll help you with licensing once you've got that straightened out
[12:12] <tgm4883> yea thats what I am planning on doing,  I ran through the packaging guide you gave me, ran into a problem here and there, but I think i get it
[12:13] <superm1> the important part will be to make sure it builds in a gutsy pbuilder, because some things have changed between feisty and gutsy
[12:13] <superm1> regarding the naming of myth packages
[12:13] <superm1> and versioning and such
[12:13] <tgm4883> well i think i got that covered, I set it up per the guide, and it downloaded the gutsy stuff that it needed
[12:14] <superm1> another thing you'll want to do is install the newer versions of linda and lintian from gutsy.  they are binary ALL, so you can install them easily on feisty if you grab the gutsy versions from packages.ubuntu.com
[12:15] <tgm4883> will do
[12:15] <superm1> the gutsy versions catch a lot more problems, (as I learned, and have a few things to fix in the myth packages)