[11:51] <ubotu> New bug: #125217 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "beryl freezes when 24bit depth used" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125217
[12:08] <ubotu> New bug: #124761 in xorg (main) "[gutsy alternate tribe2 cd]  Although a 16 Bit resolution is chosen in installer menu, xorg tries to use 24 Bit" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/124761
[12:46] <bryce_> heya tepsipakki, I'm guessing you're still tied up with school and such, but I'd like to chat with you some time about the xorg 7.3 work.  I've been looking at updating the xorg and libx11 packages, so would like to get your thoughts there.
[12:47] <bryce_> tepsipakki, also, I wanted to check on your own plans, since I worry I must be stepping on toes here, and would like to coordinate with you better
[12:52] <tepsipakki> bryce_: hey.. yeah, I'll continue my vacation tomorrow, so it's been quite busy at work for the past week, trying to make sure our feisty-installations work well :)
[12:53] <tepsipakki> besides, I think you don't have to worry about other peoples' toes :)
[12:54] <tepsipakki> but libx11.. on feisty it doesn't use the xcb-stuff at all, because of the problems we hit back then
[12:54] <bryce_> ah yes
[12:54] <tepsipakki> but most of them should be sorted by now
[12:54] <bryce_> ok; I've gone through the libx11 update mostly, and just need to go through patches
[12:55] <bryce_> so any advice on patches would be appreciated
[12:55] <tepsipakki> I think java is the one that breaks without any patches, rest should be fine by now
[12:55] <bryce_> I saw at least one is upstream (the security patch)
[12:56] <tepsipakki> hmm, jcristau is not here now
[12:56] <bryce_> I see he's been busy with lots of new packages, so most of the new things on my todo list 
[12:56] <bryce_> I can just pull from debian :-)
[12:57] <tepsipakki> java apps crashed having an assertion failure, so libx11 was patched because of that (and then later changed not to use xcb at all)
[12:57] <tepsipakki> yeah
[12:58] <tepsipakki> he should know better where debian is with libx11/xcb/java
[12:59] <tepsipakki> the problem is a static library inside java, and the current package in debian should have a script which patches java to not use it or something
[12:59] <tepsipakki> but that can't be done for the user in the package
[12:59] <bryce_> ah
[01:00] <tepsipakki> the current xorg-server in debian has a patch which should fix the vesa-crashes on r5xx hardware
[01:01] <tepsipakki> that and dropping the patch I added for vesa
[01:01] <bryce_> I hear 1.3.99 is coming soon
[01:02] <tepsipakki> which is from fedora (mode-heuristics or something), but it quite doesn't work right. without it should be fine for most
[01:02] <tepsipakki> yes, that's way cool
[01:02] <bryce_> excellent, I'll take a peek at that r5xx patch; I know there's quite a few bug reports on that
[01:02] <tepsipakki> damn, missed lunchtime (crappy selection here during summer.. every place closes at 14)
[01:02] <bryce_> oops
[01:03] <tepsipakki> well, there are two grocer's nearby.. I'll manage :)
[01:04] <bryce_> btw, I started a thread on ubuntuforums.org for xorg testing
[01:04] <bryce_> it attracted some attention, but I think more recruitment is needed
[01:04] <tepsipakki> also, I'm waiting for the x11-xsession-utils to pass NEW, then the x11-* packages are uploaded to unstable, and perhaps in ubuntu too (replacing all the individually package apps)
[01:04] <tepsipakki> yes I noticed
[01:05] <tepsipakki> I haven't used the forums much
[01:05] <tepsipakki> ..at all, to be precise :)
[01:06] <bryce_> yeah I'm not really a forums person myself
[01:06] <bryce_> however it appeared that that's where the audience was, so figured I'd give it a shot
[01:07] <bryce_> do you know if there is already a ubuntu-x mailing list somewhere?
[01:07] <tepsipakki> the "r5xx" patch for the server is the 41_vbe_filter_less.diff, which makes the server not to drop modes too early before they have a chance being validated
[01:07] <tepsipakki> no mailing list, maybe it would be useful
[01:08] <bryce_> I'll plan on looking into setting one up
[01:08] <tepsipakki> nice
[01:10] <bryce_> I'm also planning on learning how to use the new PPA system for posting proposed .debs for folks to test
[01:12] <tepsipakki> PPA? I've missed that one
[01:13] <bryce_> "personal package archives" - it's in beta.  It seems to be like posting debs to your people.ubuntu.com/~name/ space, but more formalized.  It's in beta, but I've had several people suggest using it
[01:13] <tepsipakki> oh, cool
[01:17] <tepsipakki> about my plans; I'll continue pushing the changes (especially in xorg-the-package) to debian, and hopefully starting bugwork again in August..
[01:18] <tepsipakki> but the next three weeks I'll be offline ;)
[01:18] <tepsipakki> err, two actually
[01:42] <bryce_> heya jcristau 
[01:42] <bryce_> tepsipakki, sounds good
[01:44] <bryce_> tepsipakki, this is fine; my plans for coming weeks are to get bulletproof-x implemented and integrated into xorg, and continue getting packages updated
[01:45] <bryce_> I probably won't get much bug work done, but by August when things are frozen I'll definitely be joining you in bug hunting :-)
[02:01] <jcristau> hi bryce_ 
[02:02] <tepsipakki> jcristau: what's the situation with libx11/xcb for unstable atm?
[02:02] <tepsipakki> and hi :)
[02:03] <jcristau> hi tepsipakki 
[02:03] <jcristau> tepsipakki: it needs a fix for https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11390
[02:03] <ubotu> Freedesktop bug 11390 in Lib/Xlib "Locking hooks not called from software built against non-XCB Xlib without XTHREADS" [Blocker,New]  
[02:03] <jcristau> which is what's breaking java
[02:04] <tepsipakki> oh, the ball is on xlib's court again :)
[02:06] <jcristau> it took a long time to get the sun people to react, but once they did the issue was found pretty quickly
[02:07] <tepsipakki> looks like it, yeah
[02:10] <jcristau> the less nice part is that the bug doesn't have a trivial fix, as xlib/xcb assumes that the locking hooks are called
[02:12] <tepsipakki> that's too bad
[02:18] <jcristau> yeah, pretty annoying
[02:19] <bryce_> what/who would it take to get this fixed?
[02:19] <tepsipakki> it's already assigned, so I believe it's being worked on
[02:20] <tepsipakki> since it's a showstopper
[02:21] <bryce_> ok cool.
[02:22] <bryce_> interesting, I didn't realize bart massey was involved in this...  I run into him a lot since we're both in Portland
[02:23] <jcristau> last time i asked josh about this bug, he said this:
[02:23] <jcristau> 20:22:38 < jcristau> JoshTriplett: is there any progress on https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11390 ?
[02:23] <ubotu> Freedesktop bug 11390 in Lib/Xlib "Locking hooks not called from software built against non-XCB Xlib without XTHREADS" [Blocker,New]  
[02:23] <jcristau> 20:23:22 < JoshTriplett> jcristau: Some.  The dent in the nearest wall has become deeper, and my head has become flatter. :)
[02:24] <jcristau> also, jamey got married recently, which didn't help get this fixed ;)
[02:25] <bryce_> is this the correct git?  http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xcb/wiki.git/  If so, looks like the code hasn't been touched in a while
[02:27] <jcristau> it'd probably be in libX11, but yeah, there's nothing new in the repo
[02:27] <bryce_> hmm, looks the same here - http://gitweb.freedesktop.org/?p=xcb.git;a=summary
[02:28] <jcristau> the libxcb repo is http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xcb/libxcb/ not /wiki
[02:28] <jcristau> but xlib/xcb lives in http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/lib/libX11/
[02:29] <bryce_> looks like Jamey Sharp has done some XCB related work recently as well
[02:29] <bryce_> although like you said, nothing within the past month
[02:31] <jcristau> someone needs to find how to fix the bug before pushing code out :)
[02:35] <jcristau> there's also http://bugs.debian.org/429147 which has been reported recently. i've forwarded the patch to the xcb guys, so we'll see
[02:36] <bryce_> ok cool, guess I'll just stay tuned
[03:10] <ubotu> New bug: #122762 in xserver-xorg-video-via (main) "Please provide a 3D driver for Unichrome PRO IGP using "restricted drivers"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122762
[05:16] <ubotu> New bug: #125269 in xorg-server "[PATCH]  Fix Xorg rendering when using a Composite Manager" [Undecided,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125269