[12:01] <z999> can someone help me?
[12:01] <CaptainM> !ask | z999
[12:01] <bastid_raZor> deluge is a nice client .. which i've tested
[12:01] <ubotu> z999: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:01] <magicrobotmonkey> CaptainM: yea i know but often when i do that some stuff doesnt come back right, most notably deskbar and network manager
[12:01] <AaronMT> Hi I am having trouble installing flash nonfree, I get the error in console, "md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
[12:01] <AaronMT> " "The flash plugin is NOT installed"
[12:01] <maddash> z999: no.
[12:01] <z999> ok
[12:01] <magicrobotmonkey> SkorpKing: its the easter egg one that swims all over
[12:02] <Littlegator> Is there any way to find your cpu temp if there's no option in BIOS?
[12:02] <z999>  I have a laptop with a graphic card called S3 Savage/MX Display Driver and I wondered if unbutu will work with this card
[12:02] <llllllll> Sorry to be a noob, but what's the keyboard shortcut for the terminal?
[12:02] <CaptainM> magicrobotmonkey, hmm, don't know about that. that last comment was meant more for the other guy than for you ;)
[12:02] <CaptainM> !hardware | z999
[12:02] <ubotu> z999: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[12:02] <z999> thx
[12:02] <SkorpKing> magicrobotmonkey: uhm...
[12:03] <Pici> llllllll: theres alt-f2, that brings up the 'run dialog'
[12:03] <joakim> Thanks Pici!
[12:03] <ghantoos> llllllll: goto System->preferences->keyboard shortcuts
[12:03] <llllllll> ok, thanks
[12:03] <ghantoos> llllllll: then add whatever you want in there for the terminal
[12:03] <jorge_> hello
[12:04] <arrenlex> I am trying to connect to an ad-hoc network using Feisty. Although networkmanager finds the network and goes through the motions of connecting, the ip address step fails because there is no DHCP server. This is a ipw3945 chipset. How do I connect?
[12:04] <jorge_> can help me? Detected version of X does not have a matching 'x720_64a' directory
[12:04] <jorge_> You may override the detected version using the following syntax:
[12:04] <Littlegator> Is there any way to find your cpu temp if there's no option in BIOS?
[12:04] <AaronMT> !flash
[12:04] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[12:05] <arrenlex> Littlegator: cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature
[12:05] <Littlegator> thank you
[12:05] <Nicke> Littlegator: The command "sensors" works for me here
[12:06] <mtx1_> anyone know how to fix logon screen i cannot login at all, my disk is not full and i have reconfigured xorg and still acts like its going to login then back to login screen
[12:06] <jorge_> I am trying connect a ATi 9250 can help me?
[12:06] <Hypoon> Can somebody please come up with their best idea as to why apt-get wants me to install virtualbox? please?????
[12:06] <CaptainM> Littlegator, you'll have to sudo aptitude install sensoos-lm first though
[12:06] <dark> hi, have a problem with tarjeta ati radeon 9250 with the sound
[12:06] <CaptainM> Littlegator, sensors-lm
[12:06] <z999> I have looked in the hardware compatibility page and it doesn't show my laptop nor the graphic card
[12:07] <jorge_> no I have problem is install driver
[12:07] <CaptainM> z999, google ;) at any rate you should try to use the live cd first
[12:07] <ghantoos> Littlegator: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#How_to_detect_CPU_temperature.2C_fan_speeds_and_voltages_.28lm-sensors.29
[12:07] <jorge_>  ATI Technologies Linux Driver Installer/Packager
[12:07] <jorge_> [12:07] <jorge_> Detected configuration:
[12:07] <jorge_> Architecture: x86_64 (64-bit)
[12:07] <jorge_> X Server: Xorg 7.2.0
[12:07] <jorge_> Detected version of X does not have a matching 'x720_64a' directory
[12:07] <z999> ok
[12:07] <jorge_> You may override the detected version using the following syntax:
[12:08] <jorge_>      X_VERSION=<xdir> ./ati-driver-installer-<ver>-<arch>.run [--install] 
[12:08] <jorge_> The following values may be used for <xdir>:
[12:08] <jorge_>     x430        XFree86 4.3.x
[12:08] <jorge_>     x430_64a    XFree86 4.3.x 64-bit
[12:08] <jorge_>     x680        X.Org 6.8.x
[12:08] <Jack_Swallow> are you nuts
[12:08] <jorge_>     x680_64a    X.Org 6.8.x 64-bit
[12:08] <Jack_Swallow> stop that
[12:08] <Lumiere> there is nothing he can do
[12:08] <fizzle> i cant install lm-sensors in synaptic, anyone?
[12:08] <Lumiere> once he started the paste
[12:08] <Lumiere> he can't stop it
[12:08] <Jack_Swallow> use the fucking pastebin or something
[12:08] <CaptainM> fizzle, why not?
[12:08] <fizzle> CaptainM, it couldnt find it
[12:09] <fizzle> CaptainM, do i need to set up repositorys?
[12:09] <CaptainM> fizzle, probably
[12:09] <Littlegator> fizzle, did you try sudo apt-get install lm-sensors  ?
[12:09] <fizzle> nope, couldnt find a way to open terminal heh
[12:09] <Littlegator> applications>terminal
[12:09] <fizzle> hehe
[12:09] <fizzle> didnt think itd be there :P
[12:10] <Lumiere> I installed dapper-server on a HP DL360 today with the root on a HP smart array card and I can't get it to boot
[12:10] <fizzle> ok its working
[12:10] <fizzle> ty
[12:10] <z999> thx guys
[12:10] <fizzle> do i need to do anything after the apt-get?
[12:10] <geek> hey guys got a quick question
[12:10] <CaptainM> fizzle, nope
[12:10] <Lumiere> I get a "Read Disk Read Error Occurred. Press CTRL+ALT+DEL to restart" message
[12:10] <geek> does ubuntu setup a root account by default?
[12:10] <Lumiere> anyone have any ideas how to deal with that?
[12:10] <fizzle> where will i find lm sensors?
[12:10] <ghantoos> fizzle: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_detect_CPU_temperature.2C_fan_speeds_and_voltages_.28lm-sensors.29
[12:10] <Lumiere> geek: look on the faq for root sudo
[12:10] <CaptainM> fizzle, type sensors at the terminal
[12:11] <fizzle> i need to configure it eh
[12:11] <murak> I cant remember my password for my nic, how do I get it?
[12:11] <CaptainM> fizzle, one sec i'm installing it now
[12:11] <fizzle> captainm, ok thank you
[12:12] <leStat666> hi
[12:12] <leStat666> a lil help
[12:12] <leStat666> i try to run jaymod
[12:12] <leStat666> and get this
[12:12] <leStat666> Starting LOOPER/SERVER server1...
[12:12] <leStat666> trap: 1: SIGHUP: bad trap
[12:13] <mhz`> that's probably not good :)
[12:13] <preaction> !enter | leStat666
[12:13] <meuserj> Ok, I'm getting a weird error that I've never had before and google doesn't seem to be working
[12:13] <ubotu> leStat666: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:13] <arrenlex> I am trying to connect to an ad-hoc network using Feisty. Although networkmanager finds the network and goes through the motions of connecting, the ip address step fails because there is no DHCP server. This is a ipw3945 chipset. How do I connect?
[12:13] <meuserj> Grub is erroring with error 17
[12:13] <Froob> His question - Does ubuntu have signal management disabled?
[12:13] <mhz`> arrenlex, did you try doing a manual setup?
[12:13] <leStat666> thanks Froob
[12:13] <preaction> arrenlex: give yourself an IP address
[12:13] <CaptainM> fizzle, at the terminal type: sensors-detect and follow the prompts. You can accept all the defaults
[12:13] <meuserj> the error means that the partition is there, but can't be read
[12:13] <fizzle> ok
[12:13] <fizzle> ty
[12:13] <kupesoft> Does it make any difference installing feisty with and without the target computer being connected to the Internet?
[12:14] <fizzle> no sensors detected aw :(
[12:14] <meuserj> when I boot to a live CD, and try to mount the /boot partition, it complains that it is an LVM2_member partition.. it is not
[12:14] <quaal> what is euphoria
[12:14] <quaal> process name euphoria
[12:14] <sD6> hi
[12:14] <fizzle> CaptainM, well that sucks eh.
[12:14] <Froob> Anyone know about signal management in Ubuntu?
[12:14] <kyle__> what folder are my applications in?
[12:14] <CaptainM> fizzle, sorry can't help you. try typing man sensors at the terminal
[12:15] <meuserj> if I mount it with -t ext3, it mounts fine... for some reason mount and grub think it is an lvm2 physical partition.... how do I convince them it is not?
[12:15] <fizzle> CaptainM, its ok. i figured it wouldnt work oh well :)
[12:15] <meuserj> my other partitions ARE LVM2
[12:15] <CaptainM> kyle__, type man hier at the terminal
[12:15] <quaal> and why is it using 40% of my cpu
[12:16] <andreas_> do I have to install to ba able to view all different kinds of video formats online?
[12:16] <Gnomish> Quick quesion: is signal management disabled in Ubuntu?
[12:16] <fizzle> how do i install codecs to play DivX, MP3 files, and etc?
[12:16] <Ominous> is there a terminal command to .zip something in ubuntu / a program to install to make a terminal command
[12:16] <andreas_> What do I...
[12:16] <fizzle> ah ok nvm,
[12:16] <fizzle> it works in XMMS, just not Amarok or w/e the hell its called hehe
[12:16] <SkorpKing> !euphoria
[12:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about euphoria - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:16] <preaction> !info euphoria
[12:16] <ubotu> Package euphoria does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[12:17] <leStat666> !signal management
[12:17] <andreas_> !info tyop3
[12:17] <CaptainM> Ominous, tar can do that for you. Type man tar at the terminal for more info
[12:17] <ubotu> Package tyop3 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[12:17] <andreas_> !info typo3
[12:17] <ubotu> typo3: Powerful content management framework (Meta package). In component universe, is optional. Version 4.0.4+debian-2 (feisty), package size 76 kB, installed size 128 kB
[12:17] <andreas_> !info typo3-dummy
[12:17] <ubotu> typo3-dummy: Empty TYPO3 site package for starting a new site from scratch. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.0.3-1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 248 kB
[12:18] <fizzle> is it possible to write to NTFS file systems yet?
[12:18] <preaction> !ntfs-3g | fizzle
[12:18] <ubotu> fizzle: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[12:18] <fizzle> k ty
[12:19] <meuserj> for some reason both grub and mount think my /boot partition is an LVM2_member partition when it is not.. so grub refuses to boot it with an error 17.. any ideas?
[12:19] <meuserj>  when I mount it with -t ext3, it works fine.
[12:19] <meuserj>  is there a flag somewhere I need to clear?
[12:19] <meuserj>  fdisk -l looks fine...
[12:20] <Lumiere> I installed dapper-server on a HP DL360 today with the root on a HP smart array card and I can't get it to boot
[12:20] <leStat666> Anyone know about signal management in Ubuntu?
[12:20] <andreas_> What do I have to install to view videos in Ubuntu?
[12:20] <Lumiere> I get a "Read Disk Read Error Occurred. Press CTRL+ALT+DEL to restart" message
[12:20] <paradizelost> ey all
[12:20] <Hirvinen> !anyone | leStat666
[12:20] <ubotu> leStat666: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:20] <paradizelost> is there an easy way to load vmware-server on 7.04 server install ?
[12:21] <Justi1> How can I use Windows .sys driver files?
[12:21] <fizzle> where do the XMMS skins go?
[12:21] <paradizelost> not finding it in the repo's
[12:21] <leStat666> man u guys are mean!
[12:21] <leStat666> i just want an aswer
[12:21] <DShepherd> !restricted | andreas_
[12:21] <ubotu> andreas_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:21] <CaptainM> fizzle,  ~/.xmms/Skins
[12:22] <fizzle> thank you
[12:22] <leStat666> is signal management in Ubuntu Disabled?
[12:22] <toune> hi everybody
[12:22] <Lumiere> leStat666: it isn't mean as much as it is
[12:22] <Lumiere> there are like 600-700 people here
[12:22] <SkorpKing> andreas_: sudo aptitude installl w32codecs
[12:23] <Dr_Link> Hello.
[12:23] <toune> who's speak french?
[12:23] <leStat666> well ppl are seeing what i am saying and useing !bot commands
[12:23] <ybuntu> Who's speak bulgarian?
[12:23] <CaptainM> !fr | toune
[12:23] <ubotu> toune: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:23] <imbecile> how do i delete a file from my trash that doesnt want to delete?
[12:24] <Lumiere> leStat666: it's a matter of being much more managable that way
[12:24] <leStat666> is signal management in Ubuntu Disabled? <--Just want that answer and if it is how to Enable it
[12:24] <asdf> does anyone know how to graphically see what is taking up a lot of space on your hard drive?
[12:24] <fizzle> is there a different way of installing NVidia drivers on ubuntu? or can i use the drivers on nvidia.com
[12:25] <CaptainM> asdf, I read some good things about an app that does this a while ago, not sure what it was called though
[12:25] <Jack_Sparrow> asdf: Have you deleted things like iso's while root?
[12:25] <Shaddox> Hi everyone.
[12:25] <asdf> Jack_Sparrow: yes
[12:25] <CaptainM> asdf, it used a pie chart interface thingy, i'll try to find it
[12:25] <Shaddox> How do I modify the IDv3 or IDv4 music information tags in an MP3 file?
[12:25] <asdf> CaptainM: Thanks
[12:25] <SkorpKing> imbecile: do you have write permission on the file? delete it as root.
[12:25] <m4rk> is there some way of mapping a folder to a remote ftp site?
[12:25] <littlegator_> !ntfs
[12:25] <Jack_Sparrow> asdf: look in var/cache/apt/archives .. dont delete those but copy them to a cd or dvd..
[12:25] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:25] <Dr_Link> Can anyone point me to a distribution of Ubuntu I can download onto my flash drive just in case of system failure?
[12:25] <littlegator_> !fuse
[12:25] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[12:26] <littlegator_> !ntfs-3g
[12:26] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[12:26] <Jack_Sparrow> asdf: try this.. gksudo nautilus
[12:26] <imbecile> SkorpKing,  how can i empty trash via terminal?
[12:26] <CaptainM> asdf, http://jgoodies.com/freeware/jdiskreport/
[12:26] <asdf> Jack_Sparrow, that directory only takes up like 500MB
[12:26] <Ominous> if you do say ./file.sh arg1 arg2 how do you access the args inside the sh file
[12:26] <asdf> Jack_Sparrow:I "deleted" an 8.0 GB virtual machine, but I never got the space back
[12:26] <Jack_Sparrow> asdf: go up up up look for root FOLDER on the root partition, make sure you can see hidden files look for ./trash
[12:27] <Jack_Sparrow> asdf: try this.. gksudo nautilus
[12:27] <kyle__> I want to tell firefox to subscribe to podcasts in rhythmbox - where do I find the file I need to click on to do that?
[12:27] <SkorpKing> imbecile: sudo rm -r ./trash/*
[12:27] <Jack_Sparrow> asdf: there is a second trash that is not emptied when you delete the desktop trash can
[12:27] <preaction> Ominous: they are $1 and $2 respectively
[12:27] <Dr_Link> I'll ask again, since it's active in here...
[12:27] <Dr_Link> Can anyone point me to a distribution of Ubuntu I can download onto my flash drive just in case of system failure?
[12:28] <Dr_Link> (Must be under 128 MB)
[12:28] <Dr_Link> >_>
[12:28] <Russian> Anyone knows how to reset Beryl settings to standard/
[12:28] <Russian> ?
[12:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Dr_Link: you can put regular Ubuntu on ther
[12:28] <nich0s> Is there anyway that I can launch a bin file with sudo?
[12:28] <asdf> Jack_Sparrow: nothing there
[12:28] <Shaddox> How do I modify the IDv3 or IDv4 music information tags in an MP3 file?
[12:28] <CaptainM> Dr_Link, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[12:28] <Dr_Link> Dumbest question ever, Jack Sparrow: Where to download it?
[12:28] <ubunut> i guess u guys hear this one a lot
[12:28] <ybuntu> Ima li bulgari tuka?!?
[12:28] <Jack_Sparrow> easdare you sure you found the second trash can
[12:28] <ubunut> grub error 18
[12:29] <imbecile> SkorpKing,  no luck with that
[12:29] <ubunut> i just installed ubuntu on my forth machine on a large hdd
[12:29] <nich0s> Is there anyway that I can launch a .bin file with sudo?
[12:29] <ubunut> anyone familiar with this
[12:29] <CaptainM> Dr_Link, the above link is an easy to follow tutorial. You can even save back the changes you make
[12:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Dr_Link: Let me find the tutorial
[12:30] <Dr_Link> OK
[12:30] <travisgriggs> i've got ubuntu (6.06) installed running under VPC 2007, now i want to get network working... the host pc uses a Belkin USB wireless thingie... any pointers on how i get the virtual ubuntu talking to the network?
[12:30] <leStat666> once more : is signal management in Ubuntu Disabled?
[12:30] <preaction> leStat666: what is "signal management"?
[12:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Dr_Link: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/01/25/usb-x-ubuntu-610
[12:31] <SkorpKing> imbecile: ls -l ./trash/ what are the file permisions?
[12:31] <leStat666> Starting LOOPER/SERVER server1...
[12:31] <leStat666> trap: 1: SIGHUP: bad trap
[12:31] <leStat666>  <--?????????/
[12:31] <Dr_Link> Well, the thing is.
[12:31] <Jack_Sparrow> asdf: when you click up, up up do you see a folder named root?
[12:31] <littlegator_> Why is terminal refusing to open?
[12:31] <preaction> leStat666: looks like it was trying to trap sighup but failed to create the handler. what is it?
[12:31] <asdf> Jack_Sparrow: yes
[12:31] <Jack_Sparrow> click on it
[12:31] <Dr_Link> I want to put some more stuff onto the flash drive, such as AdAware Personal SE, Spybot Search and Destroy, and Avira AntiVir, this is my security blanket flash drive.
[12:32] <leStat666> enemy territory mod
[12:32] <leStat666> jaymod
[12:32] <nich0s> Is there anyway to launch a .bin file with root permissions?
[12:32] <Jack_Sparrow> asdf: Sorry but trying to eat lunch and type with one hand
[12:32] <leStat666> its a start script
[12:32] <imbecile> SkorpKing,  no such file or directory it says
[12:32] <preaction> nich0s: sudo ./file.bin
[12:32] <leStat666> and it wont start
[12:32] <preaction> !enter | leStat666
[12:32] <ubotu> leStat666: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:32] <nich0s> preaction: I love you. :p
[12:32] <leStat666> exist with that error
[12:32] <fizzle> hey guys, in my xorg.conf there is "nv" as the video driver, can i install the updated nvidia drivers, then just change it to "nvidia" and it should work right?
[12:32] <Ominous> in a .sh scipt can you make a file with one line?
[12:33] <Dr_Link> So I can't make an ISO image into the flash drive...
[12:33] <preaction> Ominous: echo "line" > filename
[12:33] <rolfen> hey guys with beryl there is this cool plugin... the show desktop that will move all windows to the edge of the screen... well my questiion is can you launch this action from command line?
[12:33] <Dr_Link> I just need to get a dist that can fit on a flash drive along with some more .exe files.
[12:33] <SkorpKing> imbecile: sorry, typo - ls -l .trash/
[12:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Dr_Link: You cant just put the iso onto the flash drive and get it to work.
[12:33] <CaptainM> Dr_Link, or take a look at knoppix
[12:34] <sunboy> Does anyone know how to tell Ubutnu Desktop 7.04 Install CD to install using the "NVIDIA" Pci graphics card instead of the onboard video?  It's already been selected so in the bios, but that doesn't always work for autodetection
[12:34] <preaction> leStat666: did you follow their install guide? what's the command you're running? do NOT private message people without asking.
[12:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Dr_Link: I have it working here.. but it is a 4 gig flash
[12:34] <ubuntuEdgy> hi, im using ssh -X and i keep getting this error /usr/bin/X11/xauth:  timeout in locking authority file /home/user/.Xauthority
[12:35] <Dr_Link> Well I want the other stuff to be accessible, after all, most of my error-overridden computers (belonging to friends because of spyware) are running on Windows. If you plug in the flash drive the installer for Ubuntu will kick in. x.x
[12:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Dr_Link: You can go persistent, and just have home on the flash and boot from the cd
[12:35] <ubuntuEdgy> this started after i created a new user.
[12:35] <RGautier> Any idea if Compiz will ever be supported for VirtualBox
[12:35] <leStat666> Yes i followed the Guide
[12:35] <dsnyders> Hi all!  How do you configure fstab with UUIDs?  My new partition isn't recognised.
[12:35] <Dr_Link> can I just download the installer for 32-bit computers onto the flash drive?
[12:35] <Shaddox> sunboy: You have to install Ubuntu, and then install nvidia restricted drivers manually, as far as I know.
[12:36] <ubuntuEdgy> dsnyders:  you dont really have to do all that
[12:36] <CaptainM> Dr_Link, Jack_Sparrow you can even go persistent with just a flash drive  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[12:36] <preaction> leStat666: you're going to have to ask someone more familiar with that mod, probably someone on their own IRC channel or help forums
[12:36] <ubuntuEdgy> dsnyders:  try gparted to see the partitions
[12:36] <sunboy> Shaddox: Well the problem is the installer isn't taking me to the install program, i'm just getting a blank screen after it appears that it's loaded everything
[12:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Dr_Link: Are you tring to install from the flash or run live from the flash to recover windows data
[12:36] <Dr_Link> ...Neither.
[12:36] <Dr_Link> Listen up.
[12:37] <ubuntuEdgy> can any one  help with ssh -X issue
[12:37] <Jack_Sparrow> CaptainM: Already suggested that..
[12:37] <leStat666> i am on there Channel !! and they Say it is an Ubuntu Issue!
[12:37] <leStat666> Signal Managment disabled or something
[12:37] <CaptainM> Jack_Sparrow, Dr_Link twice i might add :P
[12:37] <RGautier> ...or something?
[12:37] <Shaddox> sunboy: can't help then
[12:37] <Jack_Sparrow> leStat666: you are on what channel?
[12:37] <mhz`> anyone here install rtorrent yet?
[12:38] <sunboy> Shaddox: No prob.
[12:38] <leStat666> jaymod
[12:38] <timewriter> hi
[12:38] <mhz`> newest stable version
[12:38] <sunboy> Can anyone else help me?
[12:38] <Dr_Link> I'm just trying to make a flash drive that contains the Ubuntu installer, some spyware-adware-virus scanners and killers, and some vital Windows programs for multiple purposes, written by myself. And that's all. I was wondering if you have to do anything special for this... or something like that... *hides*
[12:38] <leStat666> !trap
[12:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:38] <Jack_Sparrow> leStat666: Never heard of it.. what is jaymod
[12:39] <Pricey> mhz`, I have.
[12:39] <leStat666> an Wolfenstein Enemy Territory Mod
[12:39] <slashdot> pls tell me what to do
[12:39] <slashdot> sorry for me
[12:39] <preaction> leStat666: you can't disable signal management, signals are core to the entire system. i'd guess incompatible glibc
[12:39] <preaction> !mp3 | slashdot
[12:39] <ubotu> slashdot: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Dr_Link: You need to define something for me..  Having an installer implies you are going to install ubuntu on the hard drive of the problem computer..
[12:39] <mhz`> Pricey, i'm having a bit of trouble with ./configure for libtorrent
[12:39] <andreas_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=497877
[12:39] <numus> !codec
[12:39] <Pricey> mhz`, rtorrent is in the repositories.
[12:40] <numus> hmm
[12:40] <z999> what are compiz minimum system requirements?
[12:40] <mhz`> yeah, not newest version
[12:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Dr_Link: HAving a working install is different
[12:40] <Dr_Link> I just want the installer on there so I can copy it to the offending computer and kill Windows (with all its security holes)
[12:40] <mhz`> i need .0.7.4
[12:40] <numus> !codec | numus
[12:40] <Dr_Link> whenever I need to.
[12:40] <Pricey> mhz`, why do you "need" 0.7.4?
[12:40] <mhz`> hmm, i wonder if i could install libtorrent from repos then source it
[12:40] <preaction> Pricey: known bugs in 0.6.4
[12:40] <z999> what are compiz system requirements?
[12:40] <dsnyders> ubuntuEdgy, I know what the partition is (/dev/sdb1) and what the UUID is (4eb4d359-9a17-4034-8950-41d10b105322), but when I put the UUID in fstab I cannot mount the partition.  Nor can I mount it with mount -U.
[12:40] <slashdot> HI when i try to play some mp3 music look what error i have: You do not have a decoder nistalled to handle this file you might need to install the necessary plugins.
[12:40] <slashdot> pls help me!
[12:41] <preaction> slashdot: you weren't listening when ubotu told you where to go
[12:41] <Pricey> slashdot, it then gives you a button to press to install them
[12:41] <z999> slashdot this even I know
[12:41] <ubuntuEdgy> dsnyders: yeh
[12:41] <Dr_Link> So, Jack_Sparrow, I don't want a working installation, just the standalone installer.
[12:41] <mhz`> Pricey, like preaction said
[12:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Dr_Link: thank you
[12:41] <mhz`> 0.7.4 is the newest, stable version
[12:41] <mapez> Hey trying to install vmware server I get this from the .deb.. "If it was installed through Ubuntu, you must purge (completely remove) the old package." ideas?
[12:41] <ubuntuEdgy> dsnyders: i think you doing it incorrectly , google has great guides
[12:41] <z999> what are compiz system requirements?
[12:41] <Dr_Link> So, anyway...
[12:41] <Pricey> !prevu | mhz`
[12:41] <ubotu> mhz`: prevu is an automated, personal backporting utility. Check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Prevu for more details
[12:41] <slashdot> look
[12:41] <slashdot> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs ogle ogle-gui
[12:42] <slashdot> Password:
[12:42] <slashdot> Reading package lists... Done
[12:42] <slashdot> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:42] <preaction> mhz`: i imagine if you apt-get build-deps libtorrent, you can get the build dependancies of libtorrent
[12:42] <slashdot> eck: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.10-pitfdll
[12:42] <Dr_Link> do I have to do anything special?
[12:42] <slashdot> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[12:42] <mapez> slashdot: www.pastebin.ca
[12:42] <Pricey> !paste > slashdot
[12:42] <CaptainM> Dr_Link, try this one http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-on-usb-bar and make a separate partition for the software
[12:42] <preaction> !repositories | slashdot
[12:42] <z999> what are compiz system requirements?
[12:42] <ubotu> slashdot: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[12:42] <slashdot> sorry
[12:42] <preaction> !repeat | z999
[12:42] <ubotu> z999: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:42] <Dr_Link> CaptainM: <Dr_Link> So, Jack_Sparrow, I don't want a working installation, just the standalone installer.
[12:42] <ubuntuEdgy> dsnyders: place (/dev/sdb1) not the uui
[12:42] <Dr_Link> I don't want a _WORKING INSTALLATION_.
[12:42] <z999> i searched...
[12:42] <slashdot> !EasySource
[12:42] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:42] <z999> oh... just a second did I answer a bot?
[12:43] <geekkit> why are libdvdcss2 and w32codecs not part of the default install of Ubuntu. they are both under the GPL and don't allow the user to break the license agreement of a DVD which is to simply play the movie. anyone know why this is?
[12:43] <slashdot> CAN SOMEBODY help me pLEASE !
[12:43] <CaptainM> Dr_Link, there isn't something like a seperate installer. You need to boot into the live cd (usb drive) or alternate cd.
[12:43] <Pricey> mhz`, or you could get the gutsy sourec and build that
[12:43] <slashdot> i really don't undertand english
[12:43] <Justi1> Are there any settings I can change for the screensavers>
[12:43] <slashdot> pLS serbian
[12:43] <preaction> !caps | slashdot
[12:43] <ubotu> slashdot: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[12:43] <Pricey> !please | slashdot
[12:43] <ubotu> slashdot: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[12:43] <slashdot> ok
[12:43] <Dr_Link> I JUST NEED THE INSTALLER FILES. I DON'T WANT AN ISO IMAGE. *sorry to yell...*
[12:43] <Pricey> Dr_Link, No you aren't sorry.
[12:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Dr_Link: there are no just installer files
[12:43] <bodmerocity> Why can't I hear the podcasts I'm streaming in firefox?
[12:44] <Dr_Link> Then just what do I just do?
[12:44] <slashdot> preaction: dude look can you really help me i dont know what to do, can you give me a link to i download packages that PLS !
[12:44] <Justi1> Are there settings for the screensavers?
[12:44] <Smygis> geekkit, The are ilegal in some countrys
[12:44] <Pricey> Dr_Link, /msg ubotu install, I think that says how to install onto usb disk...
[12:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Dr_Link: You install the live version on a usb
[12:44] <RGautier> I have installed Ubuntu and want to connect to a Windows fileshare on my XP Pro machine.  How do I 'browse' my XP Pro's shares in Ubuntu?
[12:44] <slashdot> look can somebody really help me i dont know what to do, can you give me a link to i download packages that PLS !
[12:45] <Dr_Link> OK, thanks.
[12:45] <preaction> geekkit: and it's illegal to bypass encryption in some countries (which is how dvdcss works)
[12:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Dr_Link: Have you run the live version of ubuntu before?
[12:45] <geekkit> preaction: ahh. as in the americans
[12:45] <dsnyders> ubuntuEdgy, using direct references to the device files in fstab is being phased out.  I know I could do it that way, but that's no longer the way things are done.
[12:45] <SkorpKing> slashdot: go google! might have more luck there!
[12:45] <preaction> geekkit: not just the US
[12:45] <geekkit> preaction: who else?
[12:45] <slashdot> pls some1 help me
[12:45] <slashdot> this is help channel
[12:45] <slashdot> not a idiot chan
[12:45] <slashdot> pls
[12:45] <slashdot> help me
[12:45] <slashdot> dont be nastyppl!
[12:45] <preaction> !enter | slashdot
[12:45] <ubotu> slashdot: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:45] <MSG4> What kind of motherboard you guys use?
[12:46] <slashdot> preaction: stop that bot help me man
[12:46] <Jack_Sparrow> slashdot: Not with your attitude
[12:46] <Pricey> slashdot, that message you got has a button that guides you thruogh the instillation of the packages.
[12:46] <preaction> !sa | slashdot
[12:46] <ubotu> slashdot: For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join     #ubuntu-sa
[12:46] <slashdot> FUCK U IDIOTS !
[12:46] <geekkit> whoa
[12:47] <CaptainM> haha
[12:47] <nich0s> lol
[12:47] <khero> lal
[12:47] <geekkit> thats not very nice
[12:47] <SkorpKing> hehe
[12:47] <Pricey> Lets move on people.
[12:47] <khero> chill out m8 :D
[12:47] <nich0s> End scene.
[12:47] <tck> http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/130
[12:47] <anathematic> no
[12:47] <anathematic> i missed drama
[12:47] <anathematic> keep going
[12:47] <geekkit> anywho
[12:47] <anathematic> :<
[12:47] <tck> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/gobuntu/daily/current/
[12:47] <bodmerocity> I've never felt the text equivalent of an awkward silence, but there it was
[12:47] <RGautier> I answered my own question - Places shows my server
[12:47] <anathematic> I WANT TO SEE DRAMA
[12:47] <geekkit> preaction: I found a good site: http://ubuntucat.wordpress.com/2007/05/28/the-legality-or-illegality-of-w32codecs-and-libdvdcss2/
[12:47] <Littlegator> slashdot gb2/mom/
[12:47] <geekkit> preaction: gonna have a good read of it
[12:48] <SkorpKing> slashdot: type the error you get in www.google.com
[12:49] <Ominous> hmm how do i make it so zip ~/public_html/filename.zip ~/folder creates a zip with the first item as folder as atm it does /home/$USERNAME$/folder
[12:49] <jaro> Is it possible to have a history of what was installed when ?? With apt ? or adept ?
[12:49] <vox754> !apt
[12:49] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[12:49] <bodmerocity> Why might I not be able to hear the podcast I'm trying to stream in Firefox?
[12:50] <ubuntuEdgy> dsnyders:  you use feisty ?
[12:50] <vox754> jaro, you could try looking at the files in /var there are logs somewhere
[12:50] <ubuntuEdgy> dsnyders:  the uuid are for other things i have been told .
[12:50] <jaro> ok thanks
[12:51] <z999> what are compiz system requirements?????
[12:51] <ubuntuEdgy> ssh -X gives me this error -------------->    /usr/bin/X11/xauth:  timeout in locking authority file /home/user/.Xauthority
[12:51] <jaro> hmm
[12:51] <littlegator_> !ntfs-3g
[12:51] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[12:51] <jaro> which logfile would it be ?
[12:52] <ubuntuEdgy> how can i fix it ?
[12:52] <jari> onko suomalaisia
[12:52] <z999> I googled thousands of times in 2 am in the night and I'm getting tired of this
[12:52] <fevel> hey guys...I really need some help
[12:52] <CaptainM> z999, http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=730&num=1
[12:52] <CaptainM> !ask > fevel
[12:52] <fevel> My sound card is detected  But I have no sound
[12:53] <z999> k
[12:53] <fevel> ive tried everything
[12:53] <z999> thx....
[12:53] <El_Burro> if i wanted to remove an entry i had added to system/preferences/sessions, but cant use the X gui at all, how would i go about it
[12:53] <fevel> im almost quitting
[12:53] <dsnyders> ubuntuEdgy, Yes, I'm using fiesty.  UUID is a unique number assigned to a partition.  The theory is that I can move the drive around in the machine and it will always be recognized as the same partition and thus always mounted on the same mount point regardless.
[12:53] <z999> and the other compiz? I read there are two versions
[12:53] <CaptainM> z999, should be about the same
[12:53] <z999> k
[12:54] <bodmerocity> fevel, I yanked my soundcard and just switched to the onboard sound on my motherboard. you could try that :P
[12:54] <z999> well thanks anyway...
[12:54] <Stormx2> Would it be possible to filter outgoing traffic containing a certain string?
[12:54] <CaptainM> z999, why not try, if it doesn't work just remove it again
[12:54] <dsnyders> ubuntuEdgy, It is useful for removable drives, such as pen drives, external SATAs  and USB enclosures.
[12:54] <Jack_Sparrow> El_Burro: you can try nano if you have cli
[12:54] <meuserj> pvremove wiped the LVM data off of the partition.. so I'm all set.. hopefully
[12:54] <bodmerocity> hey, are most of you guys answering questions like... volunteers or do you just like being here or what?
[12:54] <z999> i'll
[12:54] <vlt> Hello. I want to run a SMART self test on my notebook's hd. But  smartctl said "device doesn't support SMART". Is this caused by the drive or the kernel (2.6.20 from 7.0.4)?
[12:54] <El_Burro> nope, cant open a terminal
[12:55] <Vletmix> Anyone know of a utility like the default system monitor that shows graphs of disk activity?
[12:55] <fevel> bodmerocity:  Thats not an option, I have a pavilion dv2000 notebook that comes with vista
[12:55] <El_Burro> all i can do is wave the mouse about
[12:55] <z999> i'll try... the problem is it's my first time w/ linux
[12:55] <Russian> Hi guys, I had Beryl installed, now I removed it and my computer kinda running slow, any idea what I have to do?
[12:55] <RERELOLUWA> I'm new to Ubuntu linux, generally we do I start with the training
[12:55] <CaptainM> bodmerocity, you get paid big bucks answering questions
[12:55] <Jack_Sparrow> bodmerocity: I help where I can and I learn from reading along when I cant help
[12:55] <Vletmix> RERELOLUWA: check out http://www.ubuntuguide.org/
[12:55] <xipi> quit
[12:55] <bodmerocity> CaptainM, pfft... really?
[12:56] <RoundyT1_> wow, noob question, where is the repo file ?
[12:56] <RoundyT1_> repository
[12:56] <RERELOLUWA> vletmix thanks
[12:56] <sn0w> bodmerocity, yes iv never heard that either, but ya i like to be in here to learn and help when i can, i used to be in the same position as alot of the beginners
[12:56] <Jack_Sparrow> CaptainM: Your check is in the mail...
[12:56] <Vletmix> /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:56] <RGautier> Of the 3 Gstreamer options for install, mp3 is only included in the set that has no-encryption DVD - which has the legal warning - is there a Gstreamer set that includes mp3 and not unencrypted DVD?
[12:56] <CaptainM> bodmerocity, nope :P It's just like Jack_Sparrow said. Most people help where they can and learn where they can't
[12:56] <mindframe_> are there any automated utilities for converting avi to dvd?
[12:56] <sysop> is there an easy FTP server with a gui in ubuntu?
[12:57] <bodmerocity> wow, that's really respectable
[12:57] <sn0w> sysop, im a big fan of wu-ftp, then i use just use commandline, or gftp if you want graphical
[12:57] <CaptainM> bodmerocity, that's why linux/ ubuntu rocks ;)
[12:57] <sysop> cheers snow
[12:57] <Jack_Sparrow> sysop: good place to start is synaptic and search for ftp server
[12:57] <Vletmix> sysop: try searching through the synaptic package manager - there are good descriptions of packages
[12:57] <Justi1> In file browser, how do I make a new folder?
[12:57] <sysop> im running xubuntu
[12:57] <sysop> will that make a diff
[12:58] <bodmerocity> CaptainM, it's the people OS. I love it.
[12:58] <Vletmix> sysop: nope
[12:58] <sysop> cool
[12:58] <rolfen> is there any prog that will play movies as a screensaver? i think it a good idea
[12:58] <Justi1> In file browser, how do I make a new folder?
[12:58] <fevel> Anyone run ubuntu on a pavilion laptop?
[12:58] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[12:58] <Jack_Sparrow> fevel: yes
[12:59] <dsnyders> fevel, I was, for a while
[12:59] <fevel> Jack_Sparrow: How did you manage to get sound working??
[12:59] <Vletmix> Justi1: Right click in some empty space, and look at the menu
[12:59] <CaptainM> rolfen, there is, not sure what it's called though. But at least you googling won't be in vain :P
[12:59] <Jack_Sparrow> fevel: It just worked...
[12:59] <pyros_pyrotica_> RGautier: I think that the fluedo gstreamer pack has mp3 but no dvdcss
[12:59] <Justi1> vletmix: its grayed out
[12:59] <pyros_pyrotica_> *fluendo
[12:59] <dsnyders> fevel, sound worked "out of the box" for my machine.
[01:00] <rolfen> CaptainM: thanks
[01:00] <sn0w> rolfen, i have for sure seen people setting screen savers as their wallpaper, so its probably possible
[01:00] <Vletmix> Justi1: That probably means your user account doesn't have privileges to create a directory there... what folder are you in?
[01:00] <fevel> dsnyders: I wish mmine did, but it didnt, it detected it but no sound comes out
[01:00] <fevel> even on full volume
[01:00] <Justi1> vletmix: root
[01:00] <RGautier> Clicking on an mp3 pulled up a player which then asked me to install a codec - unfortunately fluendo didn't present itself - so I took the riskier install choice.
[01:00] <dsnyders> fevel, what machine do you have?
[01:01] <Jack_Sparrow> fevel: I want to say check the mixer but that may be wrong
[01:01] <fevel> Jack_Sparrow: I did
[01:01] <fevel> dsnyders: HP pavilion dv2000
[01:01] <Vletmix> Justi1: ahh... well, you might not want to do that. If you're creating a directory to store 'stuff' you're better off doing so in your home directory
[01:02] <rolfen> dyou guys know any way to control the volume from the command line? or to map the special volume key of the keyboard to the volume control in XFCE ?
[01:02] <fevel> dsnyders: soundcard is detected but no sound comes out
[01:02] <rolfen> i'll ask that in xubuntu too
[01:02] <Justi1> vletmix: ok. is there a way I can access locked folders without logging into a different account?
[01:02] <dsnyders> fevel, I have the same laptop (mine's a dv 2432ca.. sweet little machine, btw)  Are you dual booting?
[01:03] <CaptainM> Justi1, from the command line use sudo [command]  but be careful with that. It's fairly easy to screw something up
[01:03] <sn0w> fevel, not sure if you already did this but goto system -> prefs -> sound, and make sure you have specifically selected your sound card, sometimes the autodetect may not work (like on my desktop)
[01:03] <Vletmix> Justi1: Well, you could use the terminal, but it seems like there should be a way of doing it without having to know commandline stuff... not sure what else to suggest
[01:04] <mneptok> Justi1: are you comfortable in a terminal?
[01:04] <fevel> sn0w: except autodetect did work....but no sound comes out
[01:04] <Justi1> mneptok: lol no
[01:04] <fevel> dsnyders: yes, I dualboot with vista
[01:04] <Justi1> What is the "administrative account" that I should log into?
[01:04] <fevel> dsnyders: works fine in windows
[01:04] <mneptok> Justi1: ALT-F2  >  gksudo nautilus /home
[01:04] <CaptainM> Justi1, you could always do alt-f2 and enter gksudo nautilus
[01:04] <sn0w> fevel, hmm yea sorry, thats all the input i had
[01:04] <mneptok> Justi1: there's your root GUI window
[01:04] <fevel> sn0w: thanks anyway
[01:05] <dsnyders> fevel, Are you getting sound from the earphones?
[01:05] <fevel> dsnyders: let me check
[01:05] <bodmerocity> does ubuntu automatically support RSS feeds?
[01:05] <mneptok> bodmerocity: Fx does
[01:05] <Vletmix> Seems like it MIGHT be a good idea to put a 'browse files as root' menu item in the system tools by default... maybe eh?
[01:05] <bodmerocity> mneptok, Fx?
[01:06] <mneptok> bodmerocity: Firefox
[01:06] <Vletmix> I would imagine questions like this come up often
[01:06] <RERELOLUWA> i have an ntfs formated external hdd, can read files from it but can not save on it wot do i do?
[01:06] <mneptok> Vletmix: not really. it would only confuse most users.
[01:06] <sn0w> Vletmix, yea but that might be too dangerous for the new users, plus the command line is so powerful, they need to learn
[01:07] <bodmerocity> mneptok aye I have Firefox. does that mean I should be able to play them?
[01:07] <CaptainM> !ntfs-3g | RERELOLUWA
[01:07] <ubotu> RERELOLUWA: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[01:07] <mneptok> bodmerocity: yup
[01:07] <fevel> dsnyders: nope, headphones has no sound
[01:07] <mneptok> bodmerocity: well, read, not play. RSS feeds are not media. ;)
[01:08] <dsnyders> fevel, Take a look at http://blog.ifitcangowrong.com/ubuntu/configure-the-hp-dv2000-for-ubuntu-sound
[01:08] <Vletmix> mneptok: yeah, there's danger, but also, for people coming from windows, they might find it very confusing to find that they can not create any files/directories outside of their home. I suppose some general tough love a-la "don't do that" works :)
[01:08] <mneptok> bodmerocity: if you don't like FX's default "live bookmarks" RSS handling, check out the Sage extension
[01:08] <sn0w> anyone know a good way to back out an ubuntu-studio install, i did the audio one and wasnt ready for what was about to happen
[01:08] <Cheyenne> How do I pass my username and password through a ftp protocol?
[01:09] <mneptok> Vletmix: they'll also be surprised that after 3 hours on the 'net they're *still* not a stealth spam relay ;)
[01:09] <sn0w> Cheyenne, just run "ftp" then "open host"
[01:09] <Vletmix> heheh
[01:09] <sn0w> Cheyenne, it will ask u username, then password
[01:09] <Justi1> what does "cd ~/.driver" do when entered in terminal?
[01:10] <mneptok> changes directory
[01:10] <Vletmix> Justi1: That is telling the terminal that you want to go into a folder called .driver in your home directory
[01:10] <CaptainM> Justi1, it changes the directory to the hidden folder 'driver' in your home folder
[01:10] <bodmerocity> mneptok, my problem is that I can't hear podcasts.
[01:10] <Cheyenne> sn0w: Im telneted into a Cisco IOS Box.
[01:10] <Justi1> thank you
[01:10] <mneptok> bodmerocity: that's not RSS
[01:10] <sn0w> Cheyenne, so your logged into a router or something?
[01:10] <Zxcs> anyone here use Nessus?
[01:10] <mneptok> bodmerocity: what format are the audio files?
[01:10] <jumbers> How can I keep Ubuntu from making .Trash folders on other file systems such as USB drives?
[01:10] <bodmerocity> mneptok, I'm not sure
[01:11] <mneptok> bodmerocity: that's Step 1
[01:11] <Cheyenne> sn0w: a switch, yes
[01:11] <bodmerocity> mneptok, I don't know how to find out either...
[01:11] <mneptok> bodmerocity: can you play mp3s?
[01:12] <BigToe7000> I have a question about ubuntu from a friend: <Bender> who was the ******* that decided to hard-code the scroll speed
[01:12] <sn0w> Cheyenne, can you give me a little more detail on what your trying to do? ftp to the switch, from the switch to what?
[01:12] <bronze> Can anyone mention a few linux native games?
[01:12] <bodmerocity> mneptok, I'ma find out in a second
[01:12] <BigToe7000> tuxracer
[01:12] <BigToe7000> gnometrix
[01:12] <BigToe7000> er
[01:12] <BigToe7000> tris*
[01:12] <BigToe7000> and that's all I remember D:
[01:13] <Justi1> does " cd " stand for 'change directory'?
[01:13] <Cheyenne> sn0w: I want ot save my routers configuration onto my ftp on my CentOS box bot I have it usernamed and passworded
[01:13] <BigToe7000> Justi1, yes
[01:13] <bodmerocity> mneptok, yes
[01:13] <bronze> I was thinking of retail games. What games have IG gaming made?
[01:13] <Vletmix> jumbers: By searching google ;) http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/09/13/no-trash-on-external-usb-drives/
[01:13] <CaptainM> bronze, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Native_Games
[01:13] <aneviltrend> kind of off topic, but does anyone know of a channel that's good for discussing setting up networking for about 15 people or so?
[01:13] <mattuk> hey all, do you have to be running 7.04 to use SVN 1.4 and Apache 2.2 from apt-get? I get Apache 2.0.54 and SVN 1.3 with 6.06 Server
[01:14] <mattuk> I tried using the universe repository's too but to no luck
[01:14] <sn0w> Cheyenne, type "copy run ftp?" that should bring up something
[01:14] <dsnyders> Hi all.  How do you rebuild /dev/disk/by-uuid? My new partition is not listed there.
[01:14] <someone2005> any way to unlock an unknown type root file ?
[01:14] <CaptainM> bronze, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Native_Games
[01:14] <CaptainM> firefox always crashes when I close a tab with a movie playing in a flash player (youtube or something) any thoughts? This only happens when I close a tab. Not when I close the whole window.
[01:14] <BigToe7000> I have a question about ubuntu from a friend: <Bender> who was the ******* that decided to hard-code the scroll speed
[01:15] <Cheyenne> sn0w: I use tthe command "copy start ftp" and it asks for host  and destination info
[01:15] <sn0w> Cheyenne, this is not really for this room fyi, this is a cisco thing but ill try to help, happen to have a lil cisco experience
[01:15] <kitche> BigToe7000: what do you mean by scroll speed
[01:15] <nich0s> configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[01:15] <BigToe7000> kitche, in windows when you scroll you can control the number of lines
[01:15] <sn0w> Cheyenne, and after that it never asks for uname/pwd?
[01:15] <Pricey> !build-essential | nich0s
[01:15] <ubotu> nich0s: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:15] <nich0s> Pricey: You. Rock. :P
[01:15] <mattuk> anyone?
[01:16] <kitche> BigToe7000: you can do it also in Linux it's just different :) and no clue on how to do it with gnome
[01:16] <Pricey> mattuk, "yes"
[01:16] <Pricey> mattuk, what's wrong with the versions in dapper?
[01:16] <Cheyenne> sn0w: It says "No Such User"
[01:16] <BigToe7000> oh ok kitche, thanks
[01:16] <BigToe7000> :D
[01:16] <sn0w> Cheyenne, when you put the host try putting "username@host"
[01:16] <mattuk> Pricey: thanks - im trying to replicate my production server, which uses Apache 2.2 on 6.06, so i guess i'll have to install manually heh
[01:17] <kitche> BigToe7000: I m not a very good gui person :) since I just like my gui's to work I don't do very much configuration besides the backgrounds
[01:18] <sn0w> Cheyenne, another thing you might want to try is tftp, make sure you setup a tftp server on where you want the config saved, lots of free ones, check solarwinds, then type "copy run tftp"
[01:18] <Zxcs> guys ive got a problem: ive installed an app called nessus, yet when i type nessus in the terminal it says it cannot find nessus
[01:18] <sn0w> he quit
[01:18] <sn0w> lame
[01:19] <rolfen> Zxcs: do sudo locate -u
[01:19] <rolfen> Zxcs: then when it over type locate nessus
[01:19] <ponicg> Why can't I access any "context" menus in Edgy? It just randomly started about an hour ago
[01:19] <ponicg> IE: I can click my applications menu, but I can't hover over anything - the hover doesn't actually go there
[01:20] <Zxcs> rolfen: thanks il try it
[01:20] <ponicg> I can use the arrow keys though
[01:20] <ponicg> I can't even right click and then left click paste, etc. I have to use the keyboard
[01:20] <ponicg> Well - I mean right click, then arrow down with downarrow to paste, hit enter
[01:20] <Justi1> what does 'sudo shutdown -r now' do?
[01:20] <Pricey> Justi1, reboots immediately
[01:21] <Justi1> pricey: good thing I checked
[01:21] <Zxcs> rolfen: it didnt seem to work :/
[01:22] <Zxcs> i just tried apt-get install nessus but it tells me ive already got the newest version installed
[01:22] <rolfen> you dont get any results when you do locate nessus? then there is no nessus... unless try sudo locate nessus
[01:22] <mneptok> bodmerocity: still there?
[01:22] <Ragle> hello
[01:22] <rolfen> Zxcs: if that dosent work then there is no executable called nessus on your computer!
[01:23] <bodmerocity> mneptok, yessir
[01:23] <rolfen> Zxcs: did you install it through synaptic?
[01:23] <bodmerocity> mneptok, I can play mp3s
[01:23] <Ragle> i have a question regarding deploying Ubuntu on several machines for casual users
[01:23] <Zxcs> rolfen: i dont know what synaptic is, all i did was download the .deb and install it that way
[01:24] <kitche> !ask | Ragle just ask
[01:24] <ubotu> Ragle just ask: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:24] <Russian> Guys is there another messenger like Gaim Internet Messenger?
[01:24] <LucianIndy> Zxcs, you could sudo apt-get remove nessus and then sudo apt-get install nessus
[01:24] <d4rkmonkey> How do I create virtual machiens for VMware Player?
[01:24] <mneptok> bodmerocity: find yourself an mp4 (.m4a) and get support for it installed. your 'casts are probably by Mac users that don't think about codecs.
[01:24] <rolfen> Zxcs: ah ok
[01:24] <LucianIndy> d4rkmonkey, www.easyvmx.com
[01:24] <Zxcs> lucianind: ok il try that thanks
[01:24] <kitche> d4rkmonkey: umm with qemu is one way
[01:24] <bodmerocity> mneptok, ahkyay, thanks
[01:24] <Zxcs> thanks guys, that seemed to work :)
[01:24] <gav616> i haven't been able to get onto my ubuntu forum account since Feisty release who can put this right?
[01:25] <Pricey> gav616, come to #ubuntuforums please :)
[01:25] <LucianIndy> how many ubuntu channels are there?!?
[01:25] <mneptok> Pricey: what have we told you about luring children with candy ... ?
[01:25] <joules> i have a general question very broad for this chat i bet.. but when i play videos on mplayer or totem  .. when i move the window the video seems to stay playing on a specific quadrant of the screen even if i move the window.. then when i let go it refocuses... same thing happens when beryl is running .. any ideas?
[01:26] <Pricey> LucianIndy, lots.
[01:26] <Pricey> mneptok, I'm sorry sir :(
[01:26] <mneptok> "sir?" is my father standing behind me?
[01:26] <LucianIndy> joules, i actually have the same problem with all video players including vnc. . . most of the time the video goes black but audio continues (i have to move the screen around radically to get a picture again )
[01:26] <LucianIndy> so same question for me #ubuntu
[01:27] <mneptok> LucianIndy: disable Compiz if it's enabled
[01:27] <LucianIndy> actually. . . i haven't tried since i stopped using beryl and started using compiz
[01:27] <LucianIndy> ah, ok
[01:27] <mneptok> LucianIndy: same for Beryl
[01:27] <piztek> can anyone here help me with devilspie
[01:27] <piztek> devils pie
[01:27] <LucianIndy> mneptok, curious. . . why is that an issue? is it a bug that can be fixed or what?
[01:27] <Vletmix> I prefer angelfood ;)
[01:28] <Dalgren> simple question...I'm looking for vlm to play videos...where do I find it?
[01:28] <Russian> IS there another Messenger like the standard Ubuntu Internet messenger but better/
[01:28] <Ragle> lol...ok..sorry.....i want to provide users with basic web access like Firefox and Gaim, and that's all.....i don't want them to have access to any other program or function....is this possible?
[01:28] <LucianIndy> Russian, gaim
[01:28] <Justi1> How do I add more workspaces?
[01:28] <dtrump> secret
[01:28] <Russian> Lucian I mean other then Gaim
[01:28] <kitche> LucianIndy: berl and compiz is like it's due to they tend to take over your acceleration and some players don't like it but compiz-fusion I think might have fixed it
[01:28] <LucianIndy> justi1, right-click the workspace part on your panel and goto properties
[01:29] <Vletmix> LucianIndy, I believe the default IS gaim... Russian, you could check out 'ayttm'
[01:29] <d4rkmonkey> Whats a good program to play DVDs in Feisty?
[01:29] <tck> d4rkmonkey, vlc
[01:29] <LucianIndy> Russian, open add/remove programs and search under 'internet'
[01:29] <Vletmix> Russian, http://ayttm.sourceforge.net/
[01:29] <Russian> Oke thank you
[01:29] <joules> oh which brings me to compiz... this whole beryl compiz fusion .. i believe compiz is the one that i should go to... are there any new features that beryl doesnt have? and since its not in the add/rem apps i dont want to mess with synaptic or what not anyone knows the code for terminal?
[01:29] <d4rkmonkey> thanks tck
[01:29] <yallax> heyas guys.. i have a d-link (dwl-510) wireless card in my comp, how can i get this to work with ubuntu? i tried to download ndiswrapper with my winxp install but it didnt go so well i think
[01:30] <dimas__> how do i log out in the terminal?
[01:30] <kitche> dimas__: exit
[01:30] <LucianIndy> kitche, i was wanting to switch to compiz-fusion but i would rather wait until development has been in progress for a while ( after a few 'stable' releases )
[01:30] <LucianIndy> im too new to linux to invite issues to fix
[01:30] <Russian> ? Gaim
[01:30] <Russian> ! Gaim
[01:30] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[01:30] <kitche> LucianIndy: well it'll be a while since compiz isn't stable neither was beryl before it got merged
[01:30] <Hitomaro> Should I get this?
[01:30] <Hitomaro> http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0665000FS10088627&catid=10524&logon=&langid=EN&MSCSProfile=3C79F0C7EA3162B21FF208C41AAB815B6421EF4F20FDA6336E851FF30965597E7C7B2C96D0967C5E153E88C22723052E76806DE28D33E38799E696FB1D6DD9149EB19B0998B1317654A5F8263C13B2298094F768D9278B85578036BE0BF0C2CC17BE2170B24E557BAD8C00F4D4410B6C591DDEF77F9470D697EB4D49F2F1CE0BC83FB7EA541A53D00AAAE1B54BA39FDE3F0DA75BA79E13756DDF6
[01:30] <piztek> !devilspie
[01:30] <mneptok> LucianIndy: Compiz/Fusion/Beryl are not mature products. expect bugs.
[01:30] <ubotu> devilspie is a tool that performs actions on windows in GNOME's metacity such as resizing, positioning, and pinning.  Usage information can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Devilspie
[01:31] <Dusk_> my menu at the bottom disappeared now..how can i get it back??
[01:31] <kitche> !offtopic | Hitomaro thanks for the spam
[01:31] <kitche> hmm ubotu died?
[01:31] <ubotu> Hitomaro thanks for the spam: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:31] <vox754> kitche, maybe it is some strange pastebin?
[01:31] <Dusk_> the one that show workspaces
[01:31] <Dusk_> !menu
[01:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about menu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:31] <kitche> vox754: it's not it's some store url
[01:31] <Ragle> i want to restrict users down to just casual web browsing and chatting....no access to other programs or permissions to install or delete anything....is this possible?
[01:32] <Russian> LucianL How do I set Gaim internet messenger to connect to a specific channel when I log in, are there any options?
[01:32] <syntaxx> anyone knows a site with samba file server using ldap?
[01:32] <LucianIndy> kitche, mneptok, this is true but the very first releases are usually the most buggy and problematic is what i was trying to state
[01:32] <dsnyders> Help.  One third of my drive is missing!
[01:32] <Pelo> dsnyders, this would be a hdd ?
[01:32] <Russian> Lucian?
[01:32] <MajorPoopyPants> ok for a server - is it better to have more CPU mhz or more cache and HT
[01:33] <LucianIndy> dsnyders, you need a partition managing program (search add/remove programs under applications) and merge any 'unallocated space' back to your main partition
[01:33] <LucianIndy> Russian?
[01:33] <vox754> MajorPoopyPants, what is HT
[01:33] <MajorPoopyPants> hyperthreading
[01:33] <Russian> Lucian: How do I set Gaim internet messenger to connect to a specific channel when I log in, are there any options?
[01:33] <rolfen> where do you normally put custom scripts... /usr/bin ? /usr/sbin ? /usr/local/sbin ? /usr/local/bin ? /bin ???
[01:33] <Hitomaro> sorry about that
[01:33] <Vletmix> Russian, install the package gaim-irchelper then restart gaim
[01:33] <dsnyders> pelo, yes, one partition on the drive.  It shows up in /dev/disk/by-label, and in /dev/disk/by-path, but not in /dev/disk/by-uuid.
[01:33] <joules> ... uh.. ok so going back to this beryl compiz.. video playing problem .. i made ubuntu/beryl stop using as a window manager and made metacity ... yet it still shows me that weird blue screen when i move the video
[01:34] <mneptok> joules: did you restart X?
[01:34] <Russian> Vletmix: thank you
[01:34] <vox754> rolfen, use the local directories, you can also use your home folder, and "echo $PATH" to see what else is by default
[01:34] <joules> i should have.. eh brb
[01:34] <LucianIndy> Russian, my preference is to just use a straight up irc client rather than a limited, IM-version of irc
[01:34] <Vletmix> Russian, it allows you to specify some commands to execute after connection, so you can just put in your /join there
[01:34] <Russian> Btw how do you select the name, so it appears in chat when you want to answer to a specific person
[01:34] <Pelo> dsnyders, see the comment by LucianIndy  a few lines up
[01:34] <Russian> Lucian: What IRC client should I use then?
[01:34] <kitche> Russian: type it out or type part of the name and hit tab
[01:35] <Vletmix> Russian, dunoh if you can :) Like LucianIndy said, a 'real' irc client will have better options
[01:35] <Russian> Vletmix: Recommend me one please I am totally new to linux
[01:35] <rolfen> ah i'll just drop it in bin :D linux is a mess anyway
[01:35] <LucianIndy> Russian, i currently use XChat. . . but there are a wide variety of options
[01:35] <dsnyders> Pelo, LucianIndy,  the disk is partitioned properly (using gparted).  I just can't mount it by UUID.
[01:35] <sa3iid> bonsoir  !
[01:36] <vox754> !tab | Russian
[01:36] <ubotu> Russian: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[01:36] <Pelo> dsnyders, uuid is only realy good for mounting using fstab , is that what you are trying to do ?   pastebin your fstab so we can have a look
[01:36] <sa3iid> lol je crois que je me suis tromp de tchat l, c'est en anglais
[01:36] <Pelo> !fr | sa3iid
[01:36] <ubotu> sa3iid: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:36] <Neo1> I just deleted the bottom panel off of my screen.  Is there any way to get it back without having to do anything too major?
[01:36] <Vletmix> Russian, if you open the 'add/remove...' tool, and search for 'irc', it brings up some choices ... Xchat is a popular one, but you can always play with a few
[01:36] <Russian> Thank you Vox
[01:36] <dsnyders> Pelo, stand by for pastebin...
[01:36] <sa3iid> yes pelo !
[01:36] <dsnyders> !pastebin
[01:36] <rolfen> sa3iid !! comment ca va?
[01:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:37] <LucianIndy> bitchx, i believe, is another popular irc client but i have never used it
[01:37] <Dalgren> Russian...try Chazilla
[01:37] <mneptok> anglais seulement ici, STP
[01:37] <Dalgren> Chatzilla, that is
[01:37] <Russian> thanks Dalgren brb
[01:37] <Pretor1ab> anyone know how to use gimp command line
[01:37] <rolfen> mneptok: ok desole
[01:37] <mneptok> rolfen: pas de probleme
[01:37] <Pelo> Pretor1ab,  try asking in #gimp or #gimp-user
[01:37] <joules> uh ahh i still have the same problem
[01:37] <Miles_Prower> Hi there, does anybody know how to make a japanese 109-key keyboard work with Ubuntu 7.04 ?
[01:37] <pony4u> snowflake how pretty
[01:37] <Pretor1ab> i am in gimp but no reply
[01:38] <Miles_Prower> Jj #ubuntu-jp
[01:38] <snowflake> My question?
[01:38] <sa3iid> bien rolfen ! tranquille et toi ? tu es franais aussi ?
[01:38] <LucianIndy> !channels
[01:38] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[01:38] <Pelo> Pretor1ab,  not everychannel are as busy as this one,  repeat your query periodiacly
[01:38] <nich0s> Does any one know where I would be able to go to learn about a package that I just installed. "Jabberd2"
[01:38] <osxdude|laptop> !fr | sa3iid
[01:38] <ubotu> sa3iid: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:38] <MajorPoopyPants> ok so if forced to choose between a p4 2.6 with HT and a p4 3.6 without HT, which would  be the better choice?
[01:38] <LucianIndy> wow
[01:38] <snowflake> I just deleted my bottom panel off of my screen.  How do I restore it?
[01:38] <Pelo> sa3iid,  si tu veux chatter en francais tape    /join #ubuntu-fr
[01:38] <piztek> devilspie anyone
[01:38] <Russian_> This one looks very weird lol
[01:39] <Pretor1ab> Pelo can you help just simple i am sure - how to run a procedure using the commandline
[01:39] <snowflake> I mean the taskbar.
[01:39] <fevel> dsnyders: hey! thanks for the help
[01:39] <dsnyders> Pelo, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29427/
[01:39] <dsnyders> fevel, Did you get it going?
[01:39] <Pelo> snowflake, just right click the top pannel and add new pannel,  then move it to the bottom and right click it to add stuff
[01:39] <xcocox> Hey, I have a machine here that I don't have access to a monitor or a keyboard. I can put the cd in (ubuntu server), and assuming it boots, it'll run. Is there a way I can install it via a connection from another computer on my network?
[01:39] <osxdude|laptop> Pelo speaks more than one language!
[01:39] <LucianIndy> snowflake, if you right click your top panel and goto 'add to panel' you can actually put all the things that were on the bottom panel on the top one
[01:39] <Pelo> dsnyders, hold on
[01:39] <foey> MajourPoopyPants : Deps if your doing alot of multitasking and what you are running software wise.
[01:39] <rolfen> sa3iid: ca va, merci, chuis libanais :) desole je peux pas parler francais ici :) si tu veux on peut se parler dans ubuntu-fr
[01:39] <LucianIndy> snowflake, that is what i did to free up screen space
[01:39] <jnorris> I have a radeon 7000 and a TV Wonder VE but I use ubuntu linux so now I cant use the TV Wonder VE
[01:39] <sa3iid> okay all pipole ! ainde sorry !
[01:39] <mneptok> Pelo: et #ubuntu-qc itou ;)
[01:39] <Pelo> osxdude|laptop,  french , english and gibberish
[01:40] <sa3iid> assalamou 'alaykoum ! rolfen !
[01:40] <mneptok> sa3iid: wa aleykum as-salaam.
[01:40] <rolfen> sa3iid: wa 3alayka al salam! :)
[01:40] <fevel> dsnyders: yes, after I booted without the power cable, one of the last tip on the page
[01:40] <Vletmix> snowflake, If you right click on the top bar, and click 'new panel' it will give you a blank panel. right click on that and open it's properties to move it, etc, then right click on it again and click 'add to panel...' to add your window list
[01:40] <Ragle> how do i completely lock down users on my systems to just the programs and access i want them to have?
[01:40] <dimas__> i tried to install flashplugin from synaptic and the two files on usr/lib/firefox/plugins comes with a red x and doesnt work so i did installed it from the terminal but i only get the lipflashplayer.so and not the flashplayer.xpt and i dont know if this has to be with the fact that i cant have display video from my cam on flash player does anyone knows anything about it?
[01:40] <snowflake> Thanks so much to all of you!
[01:41] <LucianIndy> yw
[01:41] <jokersmild> anybody in here have a PVR-150?
[01:41] <Pelo> dsnyders, which partition is giving you problems ?
[01:41] <mneptok> Ragle: you'll want to become very familiar with chmod and chown
[01:41] <Russian_> Lucian: How to edit the colours and stuff, the Gaim had a bit better look
[01:41] <dsnyders> Pelo, my vol_id for /dev/sdb1 shows ID_FS_UUID=4eb4d359-9a17-4034-8950-41d10b105322
[01:41] <jokersmild> I'm having trouble with MythTv and my pvr-150
[01:41] <xcocox> Anyone? Remote installation of ubuntu?
[01:41] <sa3iid> i am french and after kafir but now muslim , al hamdoulillah (rolfen,mneptok)
[01:42] <gav616> any 1 here having usb mouse issues, i.e. randomly turning off and on
[01:42] <jnorris> I have a radeon 7000 and a TV Wonder VE but I use ubuntu linux so now I cant use the TV Wonder VE
[01:42] <dsnyders> Pelo, It does not appear in /dev/disk/by_uuid.
[01:42] <LucianIndy> Russian_, Settings->Preferences->Colors . . . im assuming your using xchat
[01:42] <Russian_> yes
[01:42] <Ragle> mneptok: i am, somewhat, but i have never had to do it where users are concerned....is there someplace you can point me that would cover user access?
[01:42] <melange> if I want to upgrade dapper to feisty. kan I then just replace dapper with feisty in my sources.list and run dist-upgrade ? or do I need to go dapper->edgy->feisty ?
[01:42] <Pricey> !upgrade | melange
[01:42] <Pelo> dsnyders,  try mounting it using the devtree to see if there is a problem with the uuid or with the partition itself
[01:42] <ubotu> melange: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:42] <rolfen> sa3iid: cool
[01:42] <LucianIndy> Russian_, the option for colors will be in a listbox under preferences. . . its not an actual menu item
[01:42] <phpwner> how2defrag ntfs
[01:42] <Vletmix> xcocox, probably gonna be pretty tricky
[01:43] <sa3iid> yes rolfen , very cool !
[01:43] <Russian_> Lucian: I cannot use the colours, they are blacked out
[01:43] <Justi1> How do I compile and install a .bin file? (more specifically google earth)
[01:43] <dsnyders> Pelo, I can mount it using mount /dev/sda1 /storage
[01:43] <gav616> ./google.bin
[01:43] <mattycoze1> hay can someone help me get a program to start up on boot with a root access.
[01:43] <xcocox> Vletmix: Hmm, would you happen to have a link?
[01:43] <mneptok> Ragle: man chown | man chmod
[01:43] <LucianIndy> Russian_, i have no idea why they are 'blacked-out'. I can see mine just fine. #Ubuntu, any thoughts?
[01:44] <gav616> mattycoze1, dont
[01:44] <mneptok> Ragle: move on from there
[01:44] <dimas__> hello Pelo is feisty doing any good in your hair brother?
[01:44] <jokersmild> Does anybody know anything about MythTv?
[01:44] <Ragle> mneptok: doing that now....thanks for the tip
[01:44] <astro76> Juhaz, cd to the directory, chmod +x GoogleEarthLinux.bin, then sudo ./GoogleEarthLinux.bin
[01:44] <Pelo> dsnyders, then use that in your fstab, problem solved for now,   assume that there is a problem ith the uuid number
[01:44] <mattycoze1> gav616 i need it to run peerguardian
[01:44] <astro76> sorry Justi1 , cd to the directory, chmod +x GoogleEarthLinux.bin, then sudo ./GoogleEarthLinux.bin
[01:44] <mneptok> LucianIndy / Russian_: #ubuntu(+Lcfntz
[01:44] <mattycoze1> gav616 okay so i want to really use the gksudo command
[01:44] <Pelo> dimas__, congradulation, you know one word of spanish,  I am very impressed
[01:44] <mneptok> +c guys
[01:44] <mneptok> no colors
[01:44] <nich0s> Does any one know where I would be able to go to learn about a package that I just installed. "Jabberd2"
[01:44] <dsnyders> Pelo, The point of the exercise is to fix the uuid problem.
[01:45] <Justi1> how do I cd to home directory?
[01:45] <gav616> theres a linux peerguardian?
[01:45] <jokersmild> cd /
[01:45] <astro76> Justi1, just cd
[01:45] <dimas__> Pelo, LOL dont get upset i am jocking dude
[01:45] <gav616> k
[01:45] <Pelo> dsnyders, that is beyond my level,  sorry
[01:45] <Russian_> brb
[01:45] <Pelo> dimas__,  I'm not upset , just snappy
[01:45] <LucianIndy> mneptok, how did you get that info? mirc usually allowed a double-click on chat window to see it
[01:45] <dsnyders> Pelo, No problem.  Thanks for trying.
[01:45] <astro76> jokersmild, that's root
[01:45] <jokersmild> astro?  What is root
[01:45] <jokersmild> ?
[01:45] <astro76> cd /
[01:46] <astro76> he wants user home
[01:46] <jokersmild> oops sorry
[01:46] <mneptok> LucianIndy: i use irssi ;)
[01:46] <mattycoze1> gav616, i just don't want to type in the root password eachtime i log onto my account that's all
[01:46] <sa3iid> now i go because i am poor in english , okay folfen and mneptok
[01:46] <Justi1> what are in the folders "/usr" and "/opt"?
[01:46] <dimas__> pelo do you know if flashplugin is the whole flash player program?
[01:46] <Dusk_> when i try to activate GL Desktop on the menu..it doesn't make any sense...after closing and reopening i see that gl desktop closed again
[01:47] <LucianIndy> mneptok, it let me change my colors
[01:47] <astro76> Justi1, go ahead and pick the defaults, it installs to /opt and puts a shortcut in /usr/local/bin
[01:47] <tinin> Hi, is there an #ubuntu-wireless channel or something like that?
[01:47] <rolfen> any idea how i can create a launcher using the icon of the "show desktop" button?
[01:47] <gav616> mattycoze1 you on about logging into ubuntu
[01:47] <astro76> Justi1, it will show up in your Internet menu too
[01:47] <Dusk_> !compiz
[01:47] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:47] <LucianIndy> locally anyhow
[01:47] <gav616> through gdm
[01:47] <mneptok> sa3iid: araka!
[01:47] <Pelo> dimas__,  no idea,  sorry,  I just good with the basic stuff that gets the newbies frazzled
[01:47] <mattycoze1> gav616 yeag
[01:47] <mattycoze1> *yes
[01:47] <Justi1> astro76: ok
[01:47] <snowflake> May someone tell me how I can get the trash icon to use another icon?
[01:47] <Vletmix> gav616, http://phoenixlabs.org/pglinux/
[01:47] <mneptok> LucianIndy: he's talking about sending colored, styled text to the channel.
[01:47] <gav616> system>admin>login window
[01:48] <snowflake> (Please.)  :)
[01:48] <LucianIndy> ah, ok
[01:48] <mneptok> snowflake: System > Prefs > Theme
[01:48] <kitche> but anyways #ubuntu actually has colors disabled so you can't send them to the channel :)
[01:48] <sa3iid> mneptok beslama ! lol moor marocan in france i think
[01:48] <Pelo> snowflake,  you would have to either change the icon them or copy paste the trashcan icons from another theme
[01:48] <mneptok> sa3iid: no, i'm an American in Canada ;)
[01:48] <nich0s> IRSSI FOR LYFE!
[01:48] <Pelo> snowflake,   /usr/share/icons/ ....
[01:49] <nich0s> sorry.. spasm
[01:49] <Pelo> mneptok,  get out ! get out ! get out !
[01:49] <snowflake> How do I get there?
[01:49] <snowflake> I have other icons that I want . . .
[01:49] <Justi1> astro76: what is the google-googleearth.destop file on the desktop?
[01:49] <gav616> wonder how crappy peerguardian would been running through wine
[01:49] <Pelo> snowflake,  use nautilus as a root,     type  gksu nautilus in the terminal
[01:49] <astro76> Justi1, not sure why it does that, you can delete it
[01:50] <genesis> are you speaking espanish??
[01:50] <Vletmix> gav616, probably wouldn't work.. check out what peerguardian suggests: http://phoenixlabs.org/pglinux/
[01:50] <Shadowpillar> is 65 watts good power consumption?
[01:50] <snowflake> What the?  I really don't understand a thing you're talking about, but I know where the Terminal is.
[01:50] <gav616> fun of *nix, lets try anyway
[01:50] <gav616> :)
[01:50] <genesis> i not understend!
[01:50] <Shadowpillar> when it comes to processors?
[01:50] <Pelo> snowflake,  before you do that , try just playing around with the icon themes in   menu > system > prefs > theme,       you can get new themes and icons in  www.gnome-look.org
[01:50] <Pelo> !es | genesis
[01:50] <ubotu> genesis: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:51] <sa3iid> good I use a translator because if not drops snow, it is hot to follow lol. you are amriquain of origin mneptok ?
[01:51] <Justi1> astro76: google earth isn't opening- it displays the splash screen, and then sits there frozen. did I do something wrong?
[01:52] <snowflake> It says that I'm in root . . . oh, and I have the icons in a folder I created, but the icons are ones that I got off the internet.
[01:52] <snowflake> (Wait, or I see a folder named root, that's all.)
[01:52] <dsnyders> Pelo, I was hoping I wouldn't have to resort to this, but rebooting fixed it.
[01:52] <jokersmild> so nobody in here knows anything about a Hapauge PVR-150 and mythTV
[01:52] <Pelo> Justi1,  google earth is the only instance of a app where I had to restart the computer after the installation,  try that first
[01:52] <jokersmild> ?
[01:53] <gav616> need help with  mouse problem, its turning off then on every 10 - 30 seconds, gets worse when moving fast or lot of things on screen, its a usb mouse that floods log with Jul 11 00:51:32 localhost NetworkManager: <debug info>^I[1184111492.902621]  nm_hal_device_removed (): Device removed (hal udi is '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_1532_101_noserial_if0_logicaldev_input').
[01:53] <genesis> hello!!
[01:53] <Pelo> dsnyders, well you were working in the fstab, that almost went without saying , apparently
[01:53] <genesis> how are you??
[01:53] <Pelo> genesis,  are you paying attentiion ?
[01:53] <genesis> no
[01:53] <RGautier> Russian - I found this helpful - http://wiki.freeculture.org/IRC_with_GAIM
[01:53] <shiester_miester> gday everyone
[01:53] <xcocox> Alright, I have no access to a monitor or keyboard. Is it possible to install ubuntu on the machine from this machine?
[01:53] <dsnyders> Pelo, yes and no.  I still should have been able to mount using mount -U
[01:53] <Pelo> gav616, look up your mouse model number in the forum, there might be a clue
[01:53] <genesis> pelo how are you??
[01:53] <RGautier> xcocox - Do you have rdp into the machine?
[01:54] <russian> RGautier Thanks
[01:54] <Pelo> genesis,  mean and nasty
[01:54] <osxdude|laptop> xcocox: Move the screen and keyboard to the computer
[01:54] <genesis> pelo,we are you from?
[01:54] <gav616> Pelo, can't post atm, my account is temp offline,
[01:55] <Pelo> gav616, donT' post,  search
[01:55] <jokersmild> hello Peter
[01:55] <Peter__> hello
[01:55] <madman91> when a manual says key "^D" how do i do that?
[01:55] <russian> RGautier, There is nothing on that page
[01:55] <gav616> Pelo, i did, and need to bump a thread about the same problem :)
[01:55] <jokersmild> how are you?
[01:55] <syntaxx> 34
[01:55] <Pelo> Mandorallen, crtl+D
[01:55] <kitche> madman91: ctrl+D is ^D
[01:55] <genesis> pelo.i not understend i not speaking ingles
[01:55] <Vletmix> So, back on the topic of irc clients, anyone know how to either block join/leave messages in xchat, or suggest a client that does?
[01:55] <dsnyders> madman91, hold the control key down and press D
[01:55] <madman91> kitche: ahh.. thanks
[01:55] <xcocox> RGautier: No, it's a blank harddrive. I pretty much would be booting from a CD and trying to remote in
[01:56] <madman91> does that apply for all ^ ?
[01:56] <genesis> sorry
[01:56] <Pelo> !es | genesis
[01:56] <ubotu> genesis: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:56] <osxdude|laptop> ctrl+d = Add Bookmark
[01:56] <Justi1> Pelo: I restarted, but earth still isn't loading.. any suggestions?
[01:56] <dsnyders> madman91, pretty much
[01:56] <Peter__> Alright, messing around with compiz
[01:56] <russian> RGautier: The page link is empty
[01:56] <Pelo> Justi1,  not realy
[01:56] <MrElendig> Vletmix: screen + irssi > *
[01:56] <madman91> thanks dsnyders and kitche
[01:56] <astro76> Justi1, what is your graphics card and are you using 3d drivers?
[01:56] <astro76> Justi1, also are you running i386?
[01:56] <genesis> no any suggestions dsnyders!!
[01:57] <Pelo> later folks
[01:57] <russian> RGautier?
[01:57] <dsnyders> madman91, Hey, that's why we're here.  To answer the easy questions :-)
[01:57] <jmodi> I just installed Ubuntu Feisty onto my hard drive. I am running a hardware raid 5 array on an LSI Logic megaraid controller. When I try to boot into Windows vista my computer just restarts itself. Vista was booting fine before installing ubuntu. Any ideas?
[01:57] <snowflake>  What happens to a file after I double click it in the Archive thing?
[01:57] <dsnyders> genesis, I missed your question.
[01:57] <Helpmeplz> help me, my ubuntu is not booting correctly
[01:57] <Justi1> astro76: I have an ATI Mobility Radeon X1400 with 3d drivers. What is i386?
[01:57] <Vletmix> MrElendig, ooh, thanks
[01:57] <dissection> Hello. I have a problem. This is the second time this is happening. My icons in my desktop have disappeared, I am not able to open any folders. Why could this be happening?
[01:58] <madman91> dsnyders: I need to know because I am moving from gui to cli .. completely :-) or almost
[01:58] <astro76> Justi1, intel processor and 32 bit ubuntu, as opposed to amd64 or ppc,etc...
[01:58] <madman91> dsnyders: thats means rtorrent not azureus
[01:58] <ubuntu> hey can someone tell me how to have two computers interlinked with eth
[01:58] <RERELOLUWA> does any one know how to use gcompris administration
[01:58] <Justi1> astro76: yes I have i386
[01:58] <madman91> and irssi not xchat :)
[01:58] <madman91> and bitlbee instead of gaim .. and so on
[01:58] <astro76> ubuntu, you need a switch/hub or a crossover cable
[01:58] <genesis> hola!!a todos jajajaj!!ustedes no saben hablar en espaol y yo si jajajaj!!
[01:58] <RGautier> ubuntu: You'll have to statically assign the IP addresses too
[01:59] <cotyrothery> RGautier: how?
[01:59] <xcocox> RGautier: any ideas?
[01:59] <astro76> Justi1, not sure then, I vaguely remember reading about problems some people had, it just worked for me
[01:59] <pr4bh> what themes do i download that are compatible with themes manager? gtk2 or metacity? :(
[01:59] <genesis> alguien me puede ayudar con el ingles???
[01:59] <genesis> please
[01:59] <bruenig> pr4bh, metacity
[01:59] <bruenig> !es
[01:59] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:59] <pr4bh> cheers :)
[01:59] <Justi1> astro76: can you give me the installation commands again?
[01:59] <MrElendig> astro76: i386 =/= intel
[01:59] <Russian> For some reason, Konversation is crashed, I cannot close the Server List window, it does load every time I start Konversation
[01:59] <dsnyders> !spanish
[02:00] <astro76> yeah I realize
[02:00] <RGautier> how to assign IP address manually in ubuntu?  no idea - I'd dig into the network scripts and track it down myself - but Im not familiar with ubuntu's config tools
[02:00] <MrElendig> it's an architecture
[02:00] <dissection> Hello. I have a problem. This is the second time this is happening. My icons in my desktop have disappeared, I am not able to open any folders. Why could this be happening?
[02:00] <astro76> Justi1, chmod +x file.bin, sudo ./file.bin
[02:00] <RGautier> System/Administration/Networking
[02:00] <dissection> Someone help me please
[02:01] <RGautier> Then Properties for the Wired Connection
[02:01] <Justi1> astro76: thanks for your help
[02:01] <RGautier> dissection: !repeat - we heard you - we just a) dont know or b) havent gotten to you
[02:02] <bruenig> c) are annoyed and refuse to answer
[02:02] <Russian> RGautier I cant close Server List _konversation window
[02:02] <cotyrothery> ok im in network settings
[02:02] <snowflake> Anyone know?
[02:02] <RGautier> Russian - don't ask me - Im an Ubuntu noob
[02:02] <Russian> Lol oke
[02:02] <madman91> wow
[02:02] <madman91> rtorrent isnt that bad :)
[02:03] <n00dl3> madman91: utorrent ftw :o
[02:03] <madman91> n00dl3: rtorrent pwns utorrent
[02:03] <n00dl3> madman91: lies xD
[02:03] <cotyrothery> RGautier: what do i do once in Network Settings
[02:03] <RGautier> Please take it to #religion
[02:03] <banlieue> no way, <insert random name> totally pwnz0rxz both rtorrent and utorrent
[02:03] <bruenig> rtorrent doesn't have rss
[02:03] <BADC> hi there..i need some help please...
[02:03] <bruenig> therefore inferior
[02:03] <RGautier> coty - click on the Wired Connection, then Properties
[02:03] <madman91> bruenig: why would you need rss? lame
[02:03] <madman91> lame
[02:03] <madman91> whatever
[02:04] <cotyrothery> RGautier: ok did that
[02:04] <bruenig> madman91, I do need it, I like to have daily show and colbert waiting for me when I wake up
[02:04] <RGautier> Now set the IP address manually instead of dhcp
[02:04] <RGautier> You need to know a little about networking
[02:04] <bruenig> without having to go online find the torrent download it and then wait
[02:04] <phreck> heh
[02:04] <phreck> is there a wine support chan?
[02:04] <bruenig> #winehq
[02:04] <phreck> or has anyone used wine with uuntu?
[02:04] <cotyrothery> RGautier: what should i set it to
[02:04] <madman91> next question.. can i leave rtorrent running as a process.. thus letting me check it every once in a while
[02:04] <bruenig> !info screen | madman91
[02:04] <ubotu> madman91: screen: a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.3-0.2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 571 kB, installed size 980 kB
[02:04] <RGautier> coty - you need to comprehend what you're doing - it doesnt magically work like USB
[02:05] <madman91> thanks bruenig
[02:05] <snowflake> May someone please tell me how I can change the icon of the trash can to another one in a folder?
[02:05] <RGautier> coty - pm me
[02:05] <cotyrothery> RGautier: yea so what should i do? im not sure
[02:05] <cotyrothery> ok
[02:05] <n00dl3> madman91: screen is hawt
[02:05] <herbaliser> hi i'm trying to monitor my cpu speed,fan,..  with gKrellm.  I'm using Dell laptop and according to ubuntu guide i have to load an extra module.  i8k when i load it i get the error FATAL: Error inserting i8k (/lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/drivers/char/i8k.ko): No such device
[02:05] <Hirvinen> My PPC laptop froze during the upgrade to Feisty, resulting in an unbootable system. It was partitioned on top of LVM with a separate home, so simply installing Feisty on top of it with an alternate CD wouldn't be a big problem, but I'd still like to save some files from the root partition. How would you go about doing that?
[02:05] <osxdude|laptop> X Chat won't stay open! "Segmentation fault (core dumped)" Any help?
[02:05] <madman91> i am going to setup screen to have my irssi and rtorrent :)
[02:06] <madman91> then at school install putty.. and do it all from home
[02:06] <bruenig> osxdude|laptop, segfaults are hard to track
[02:06] <herbaliser> Hirvinen try to boot in recovery mode
[02:06] <herbaliser> hit ESC on bootloader
[02:07] <RGautier> coty - you getting my IMs?
[02:07] <osxdude|laptop> bruenig: then I cant use X-Chat?
[02:07] <Hirvinen> herbaliser: That lets me give options in yaboot?
[02:07] <younghacker> hey anybody know a good ftp server i can download with a really good GUI to go with it?
[02:07] <lore26> alguien k hable espaol?
[02:07] <Pricey> "es | lore26
[02:07] <bruenig> osxdude|laptop, try to reinstall, try to compile from source, there are ways
[02:07] <herbaliser> Hirvinen: you will be able to choos recovery mode
[02:07] <dissection> Can I get some help?
[02:08] <astro76> !es | lore26
[02:08] <ubotu> lore26: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:08] <Hirvinen> herbaliser: Okay, I'll try. However I'm somewhat suspicious of that half-edgy-half-feisty system booting even in that way.
[02:08] <Pricey> thanks astro76 :)
[02:08] <BADC> i need to install some skins in the amsn....i have to go to usr / share / amsn ....but..i can/t paste the skins because they say to me that i'm not the "administrator"...how can i change that to have access to copy / past in the usr folder?
[02:08] <herbaliser> Hirvinen: had the same problem recoverd my files an reinstalled
[02:08] <nich0s> Does anyone know what tools directory would be referenced in a tutorial for setting up a jabber server?
[02:08] <herbaliser> hi i'm trying to monitor my cpu speed,fan,..  with gKrellm.  I'm using Dell laptop and according to ubuntu guide i have to load an extra module.  i8k when i load it i get the error FATAL: Error inserting i8k (/lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/drivers/char/i8k.ko): No such device
[02:08] <bruenig> BADC, sudo cp whatever /usr/share/amsn/whatever
[02:08] <Russian> Anyone can help me with Konversation programme, I cant close the Server List windows, wich shows up when I start Konversation, and the buttons are dissappeared
[02:09] <RGautier> Russian - what is Konversation?
[02:09] <BADC> tkx i will try
[02:09] <younghacker> i need the name of a good ftp server/ and client
[02:09] <Russian> IRC Client
[02:09] <dsnyders> dissection, you do not need to ask for permission.  Just ask your question.  People will either chime in if they know (and aren't busy), or they'll ignore you.
[02:09] <astro76> younghacker, good ftp servers don't have guis
[02:09] <astro76> younghacker, try vsftpd
[02:09] <RGautier> Also, Russian - try #Konversation ??
[02:09] <younghacker> vsftpd,,,cool got it
[02:09] <Russian> Thank you RGautier
[02:09] <younghacker> going to get it now
[02:09] <questans> quick question, is there a way to quicly enter to Ubuntu in a command line interface from boot? even from before I enter the login?
[02:09] <questans> I'm looking for a total CLI look, I've done it before, but it was because of a bad driver, and Ubuntu did it on it's own
[02:10] <geek> yay yay yay
[02:10] <geek> finally got it to work
[02:10] <wifenfeffer> how do I configure samba to allow guests to view my files without needing to enter a username and password ?
[02:10] <bruenig> questans, you can disable gdm
[02:10] <bruenig> questans, I think it is rc.update or something like that, look into it
[02:10] <shiester_miester> questans, yes, alt+ctrl+f1 will get you to a command line
[02:10] <questans> thanks
[02:10] <dsnyders> questans, try <ctrl><alt><f1>
[02:10] <dissection> dsnyders: This is the second time this is happening. My icons in my desktop have disappeared, I am not able to open any folders. When I clicked on restart the last time, the system hung and I had to physically restart it. Why could this be happening? How do I fix this?
[02:10] <bruenig> but that still boots up a gui
[02:11] <bruenig> the ctrl alt f1
[02:11] <RGautier> dissection - maybe your file system is locking up?
[02:11] <RGautier> Which file system are you using?
[02:11] <RGautier> And is there anything special about your disks?
[02:11] <Tama00> okay i got a odd problem right..
[02:11] <Newbuntu> Hello all. I'm trying out Ubuntu for the first time; I want to set it up on a dell D620 laptop and dualboot windows. Is there a write up somewhere for new install/dualboot/D620?
[02:12] <Vletmix> MrElendig: irssi = awesomeness, thanks :)
[02:12] <dissection> RGautier: Not sure how to answer that.. What do you mean special? I got an NTFS partition, and the linux file system whatever its called.. The default one.. I'm new to this
[02:12] <drewu> hey newbuntu
[02:12] <madman91> Newbuntu: the process is usually the same for most laptopts
[02:12] <RGautier> Newbuntu: Is dual-boot necessary?  I'd recommend Virtualizing a box if you have a multicore CPU
[02:12] <questans> thanks, <ctrl><alt><f1> worked, I'll try it while on boot
[02:12] <Hirvinen> herbaliser: Esc does no such thing in yaboot. And the help command it tells me to use first says it's going to load the kernel and then gives a no such file error.
[02:12] <madman91> Newbuntu: so dont look for specific dell d620 instructions
[02:12] <unagi> is there a way that i can make a script or something to where when i start a program ubuntu will rewrite xorg.conf restart x server and then run the program?
[02:12] <dsnyders> dissection, Is it just the icons that are missing?  Do you have a menu/task bar?
[02:13] <bruenig> questans, that still boots a gui, it just keeps it in ctrl alt f7
[02:13] <bruenig> wow he followed what amount to a non solution, weird
[02:13] <Tama00> i was listing to music on a hard drive... then all of a sudden the music stopped and the play list ran through quickly like all the tracks where dead.. then i checked the mount points and it seamed the hard drive has unmounted itself.. then i went into fdisk -l and it somehow magically my 160gig hard drive was gone and a new drive appeard that was 103gb.. wtf is going on?
[02:13] <younghacker> ok so how do i start to configure this file server?
[02:13] <madman91> unagi: why would you do that? ... you could do it.. but are you trying to just hide a problem in a program?
[02:13] <herbaliser> Hirvinen: use a LiveCD then and mount you partition and recover files
[02:13] <Newbuntu> I need to run a bunch of winXP stuff... can't have a dedicated system. :(  I'm trying ubuntu since it seems it's the most user friendly, and easiest to install
[02:13] <Phrozen_One_> whats the keyboard shortcut to kill the x server (and not restart it)
[02:13] <younghacker> i don't have access right now it says i must run as root
[02:13] <younghacker> i did -u root
[02:13] <younghacker> and sudo
[02:13] <LinuxProbie> Heya folks. Someone help me get my Plantronics Gamecom Pro working in feisty?/
[02:14] <dissection> dsnyders: Yes, the menu/task bar is there. But when I clicked on the logout button last time, nothing happened... And then finally the the logout menu showed up after 5 to 10 minutes. When I clicked on reboot, it didn't do anything... And though my irssi was still running, it wouldn't let me type anything into the window
[02:14] <Hirvinen> herbaliser: Okay, then how will I mount an LVM partition on the Feisty LiveCD.
[02:14] <RGautier> Newbuntu - I have a WinXP box - and I use VirtualBox to run Linux's to try them out
[02:14] <unagi> im trying to fix a problem in a program
[02:14] <dirtyhand> whats the command to say yes to all?
[02:14] <RGautier> It lets you run your WinXP stuff and your Linux stuff at the same time
[02:14] <younghacker> me 2 @ RGautier
[02:14] <Tama00> dirtyhand, yes
[02:14] <RGautier> I suggest VirtualBox or VirtualPC
[02:14] <dirtyhand> huh...
[02:15] <younghacker> which one do use i have VMware
[02:15] <dirtyhand> what is it
[02:15] <unagi> madman91: in order for maya to run without crashing i have to disable compositing in ubuntu but its not a practical fix for all the time
[02:15] <RGautier> I am using VirtualBox now
[02:15] <Tama00> dirtyhand, the command that says yes to all is called yes
[02:15] <cotyrother1> can anyone see what im typing
[02:15] <Newbuntu> Rgautier: does it run in the windows, or linux environment? Is it opensource?
[02:15] <rolfen> Tama00: scary what happened to you
[02:15] <RGautier> yes, coty
[02:15] <cotyrother1> ok good
[02:15] <RGautier> It is open source - runs in either
[02:15] <dsnyders> dissection, how much memory/ swap space do you have?  How full are your hard drives?
[02:15] <Tama00> rolfen, did my hard drive die?
[02:15] <RGautier> So you can host it in WinXP
[02:15] <dirtyhand> it keeps asking me for every file
[02:15] <rolfen> Tama00: I dont know...
[02:15] <younghacker> hmm.. i think VMWare is the best, have you guys seen the VMWare ACE environment software?
[02:15] <Tama00> better not of lol
[02:15] <dirtyhand> im trying to delete a folder that has .svn stuff in it with rm -r foldername
[02:15] <dsnyders> dissection, Also, I don't know what irssi is, so I won't be able to help wiht that.
[02:16] <Phrozen_One_> whats the keyboard shortcut to kill the x server (and not restart it)
[02:16] <osxdude|laptop> No luck reinstalling
[02:16] <Tama00> rolfen, i might restart and see if that fixes things
[02:16] <Newbuntu> RGautier: and you recommend virtualbox? I'll give it a try. I assume it's on sourceforge?
[02:16] <dissection> irssi is an IRC client.. I'm using it to chat with you guys
[02:16] <cotyrother1> RGautier: I need to get my computer and my Friend computer connected
[02:16] <RGautier> :shrug: Google is my source for everything
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Tama00: What filesystem are you using to store your music
[02:16] <rolfen> Tama00: yeah good idea... but i hope the hard drive youe talking about doesnt host your OS
[02:16] <LinuxProbie> Feisty recognizes the headset and I can get a head-splitting beep when I test it, but all of the sound is still feeding though my notebook's speakers. Any advice?
[02:16] <RGautier> coty - PM me
[02:16] <Newbuntu> :)
[02:16] <younghacker> smh @ that www.vmware.com
[02:16] <Mocheeze> Is there a photo processing software for Ubuntu that I can use to auto crop single scan of multiple images into separate files?
[02:16] <cotyrother1> RGautier: i did
[02:16] <madman91> unagi: one easy way you can do it is to create 2 xorg.conf's ... and just rename them and then tell x to restart
[02:16] <cotyrother1> you did not anwser back
[02:16] <younghacker> >Free Virtualization Products
[02:16] <RGautier> I didn't get it - did you get mine?
[02:16] <dissection> dsnyders: I have 768MB RAM, 20GB free space on the hard disk.. I don't know how much free space is there in swap.. I can't check it right now
[02:17] <Tama00> Jack_Sparrow, ext3
[02:17] <cotyrother1> RGautier: i got yours
[02:17] <Tama00> rolfen, luckly it doesnt
[02:17] <madman91> unagi: just write the commands into a text file ... just as you would into a terminal ..
[02:17] <osmosis_> how do I start a newly configured eth1 interface?
[02:17] <unagi> even easier madman91 is if i could get a script to do it
[02:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Tama00: Is it the same partition your OS is on?
[02:17] <madman91> unagi: just write the commands into a text file ... just as you would into a terminal ..
[02:17] <madman91> unagi: but at the top write #!/bin/bash
[02:17] <Tama00> Jack_Sparrow,  nope
[02:17] <Russian> !virus
[02:17] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[02:17] <madman91> unagi: and just execute it
[02:17] <cotyrother1> RGautier: did you get my message
[02:17] <Peter__> !dualboot
[02:17] <RGautier> No, did you get mine?
[02:17] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[02:17] <rolfen> Tama00: worst case scenario you can use rstudio's hard disk recovery tools. they scan for ext3 but it's not free
[02:17] <dirtyhand> whats the command to say yes to all the y/n questions in terminal?
[02:18] <Peter__> sweet
[02:18] <cotyrother1> RGautier: i got yours
[02:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Tama00: what does gparted say about the drive
[02:18] <RGautier> Im using GAIM for IRC  but I added you
[02:18] <RGautier> So I don't know why Im not getting yours
[02:18] <cotyrother1> RGautier: im using gaim also
[02:18] <RGautier> coty - IM me with MSN - rgautier@cox.net
[02:18] <Tama00> Jack_Sparrow, damni gotta install gparted.. but fdisk says theres now a new drive and its changed the size 103gig now vs 160 before
[02:18] <genesis> hola!!!
[02:18] <genesis> hola!!!
[02:19] <RGautier> or Yahoo - r_gautier
[02:19] <LinuxProbie> *pokes around* hallo?
[02:19] <unagi> whats the terminal command for rename
[02:19] <Phrozen_One_> dirtyhand, its  COMMAND < yes
[02:19] <dirtyhand> so rm -r folder name < yes
[02:19] <dirtyhand> ?
[02:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Tama00: A new drive not just a smaller drive than you really have.. it all sounds BAD
[02:19] <cotyrother1> RGautier: your added
[02:19] <dsnyders> dissection, next time it happens, click on System->Administration->System Monitor, and see if you can determine if any process is hogging resources.  Other than that (and checking your swap) I don't know what to tell you.
[02:19] <SkippySkip1234> hello ubuntu world!  i cannot for the life of me figure out how to edit my xorg.conf file to work properly with my video card / widescreen monitor.  can someone with good knowledge of this start a private chat with me and hash this out?
[02:19] <unagi> whats the terminal command for rename
[02:19] <Tama00> Jack_Sparrow, yeah like it was sdb now its sde :|
[02:19] <rolfen> unagi: mv
[02:20] <unagi> mv is move is it not?>
[02:20] <madman91> unagi: same
[02:20] <madman91> unagi: mv is rename and move
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Tama00: Is this a dual boot system?
[02:20] <unagi> k
[02:20] <TehRealNexGen> SkippySkip1234: trying to sort out your resolution?
[02:20] <SkippySkip1234> yea
[02:20] <Tama00> Jack_Sparrow, yup
[02:20] <SkippySkip1234> i have a polaroid TV that is not well recongised
[02:20] <dissection> dsnyders: It says 33MB of 1.2GB is used in swap
[02:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Tama00: two physical drives?
[02:21] <Tama00> Jack_Sparrow, yup i have 4 drives in total
[02:21] <unagi> whats the terminal command for ctrl + alt + backspace
[02:21] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[02:21] <TehRealNexGen> SkippySkip1234: sudo gedit etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:21] <TehRealNexGen> i think
[02:21] <Phrozen_One_> unagi, killall gnome-panel?
[02:21] <unagi> gnome-panel and x server are the same thing?
[02:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Tama00: Just for my own curiosity what size power supply are you running?
[02:22] <SkippySkip1234> thanks, but i know how to edit it, but i can't seem to insert the correct parameters
[02:22] <Tama00> Jack_Sparrow, 350watt i think..
[02:22] <SkippySkip1234> i have my monitor specs and what not, i just can't seem to get it working
[02:22] <unagi> does anyone know the command to restart x server?
[02:22] <astro76> unagi, ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:22] <unagi> not the keystroke
[02:22] <Tama00> Jack_Sparrow, actually its probably less than that
[02:22] <unagi> the terminal command
[02:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Tama00: My first impression is that is not big enough to handle your system... let me find a link realy quick.
[02:23] <Tama00> ok:)
[02:23] <TehRealNexGen> SkippySkip1234: you looked at the monitor section? there's a list of resolutions, have you tried inserting your own?
[02:23] <kbrooks> unagi, /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[02:23] <dirtyhand> sigh comon how do I rm folder that has write-protected files without having to y every prompt?
[02:23] <kbrooks> unagi, and no,
[02:23] <kbrooks> er
[02:23] <unagi> no what
[02:23] <dsnyders> dissection, It sounds like a program is grabbing all the resources.  Unfortunately, this sort of problem is hard to diagnose.  You may try looking  through  the /var/log files to see if anything strikes you as odd.
[02:23] <SkippySkip1234> yes, i have been at this a while and nothing seems to work, very frustrating...
[02:24] <kbrooks> unagi, and no, gnome-panel and the X server is different
[02:24] <dissection> Can you resend that message? I cleared the window and missed it :S
[02:24] <unagi> ok i figured
[02:24] <unagi> ty
[02:24] <unagi> ok what do i save the text document as
[02:24] <dirtyhand> ls
[02:24] <dirtyhand> rm -r
[02:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Tama00: See if you can get into this link   http://www.journeysystems.com/?powercalc
[02:24] <jkthecjer> sup everyone: if i type "make modules", how long should this crap take?
[02:24] <bruenig> 10-15 min
[02:24] <SkippySkip1234> im basically beyond what the docs can do, apparently i have one of those "odd" cases
[02:24] <Tama00> Jack_Sparrow, alright thanks:P
[02:24] <jkthecjer> alright cool
[02:25] <unagi> kbrooks what do i save the text file as or how do i execute it
[02:25] <rolfen> jkthecjer: pretty long depending on your PC
[02:25] <dissection> dsnyders: Could you resend that message? I missed it by clearing the window.. :S
[02:25] <LinuxProbie> Plantronics' website is useless. Why does no manufacturer bother to test their stuff in linux, I wonder?
[02:25] <dsnyders> dissection, It sounds like a program is grabbing all the resources.  Unfortunately, this sort of problem is hard to diagnose.  You may try looking  through  the /var/log files to see if anything strikes you as odd.
[02:25] <jkthecjer> rolfen: that makes me a sad panda
[02:25] <TehRealNexGen> then i dont know what to do next sorry
[02:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Tama00: http://www.adecy.com/psu/  may work better
[02:25] <SkippySkip1234> ok thanks anyway
[02:26] <jkthecjer> rolfen: this may sound like a silly question, but is there a way to just rebuild one module?
[02:26] <Tama00> neat thanks Jack_Sparrow
[02:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Tama00: Let me know if you are under or over..ok
[02:26] <weasel> moo
[02:26] <Tama00> ok
[02:26] <rolfen> jkthecjer: i am not sure
[02:26] <dissection> dsnyders: Are you sure? It says 33MB only is USED...
[02:27] <snowflake> Wow, I just changed the icons!  That's what everyone was telling me at first, but I didn't understand . . . thanks so much!
[02:27] <dsnyders> dissection, You're going to have to do it at the time you're having the problem.
[02:27] <dissection> dsnyders: I'm having the problem right now
[02:27] <SkippySkip1234> is there anyone i can send my monitor info and xorg.conf file to and have them send me back an edited file so my monitor works at the correct resolution?
[02:27] <unagi> can anyone tell me how to make a text file executable?
[02:28] <RGautier> SkippySkip - I found that if you monitor works now - you just need to add your resolution into the 4-bit, 8-bit, etc sections
[02:28] <Tama00> Jack_Sparrow, it recommends 220wat
[02:28] <RGautier> Then reboot
[02:28] <Jack_Sparrow> what cpu are you running
[02:28] <Tama00> Jack_Sparrow, wait no 500+
[02:28] <dsnyders> dissection, So, right now, you have no desktop icons, but you have a menu bar?
[02:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Tama00: thats better
[02:28] <Tama00> Jack_Sparrow, 542 watt lol
[02:28] <Tama00> eeek
[02:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Tama00: I see part of the problem
[02:29] <SkippySkip1234> RGautier:  I have tried for about 20  hours to get it to work and it is beyond me...
[02:29] <dissection> dsnyders: Yeah, thats right
[02:29] <RGautier> E.g. If it says "800x600" "640x480" - add  "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[02:29] <RGautier> Add it in each section
[02:29] <Tama00> Jack_Sparrow, why would it only cut out this one hard drive then?
[02:29] <RGautier> and reboot
[02:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Tama00: You will tear up a system running it that short of power
[02:29] <SkippySkip1234> what about the refresh rates?
[02:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Tama00: The one that was in use during a heavy demand on the cpu
[02:29] <SkippySkip1234> i feel like i ran into that problem more than once?
[02:29] <RGautier> Hrmmmm, mine is set to 0
[02:30] <unagi> can anyone tell me how to make a text file executable?
[02:30] <dsnyders> dissection, Hmm...  Do you have a desktop switcher tool running?
[02:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Tama00: ONe had to start first..  they may be soft errors
[02:30] <rolfen> jkthecjer: it seems there is a way
[02:30] <rolfen> to build one module only
[02:30] <SkippySkip1234> 0? huh... would you be able to send me your xorg.conf file so I can compare?  i don't know if that's a security issue...
[02:30] <bruenig> unagi, chmod +x textfile
[02:30] <dissection> dsnyders: I don't think so.. What is that
[02:30] <unagi> ty
[02:31] <Tama00> Jack_Sparrow, i had 3 hard drives going then and i was using very small amounts of cpu cycles
[02:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Tama00: I was not trying to pick apart your system but when I see that many drives I always ask that question
[02:31] <thermodynamics44> hey guys i don't know much about linux, but i have a question: Ubuntu is gentoo? if not, what's the diference?
[02:31] <Tama00> probably is a power supply issue lol..
[02:31] <rolfen> jkthecjer: if you type make help you'll see in "Other generic targets" : "dir/file.ko     - Build module including final link"
[02:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Tama00: The damage could have been done earlier.. there is no way of knowing.  But we do know you dont have the juice for your hardware.
[02:32] <bruenig> thermodynamics44, gentoo is a source based distro and puts more emphasis on user input
[02:32] <darwin81> How can I update Ubuntu on a machine with no internet connection?
[02:32] <dsnyders> dissection, it's an application that displays a number of little windows on your taskbar/menu bar and lets you switch from one desktop to another.
[02:32] <bruenig> darwin81, you have to get a cd
[02:32] <Tama00> Jack_Sparrow, :(
[02:32] <dissection> dsnyders: No I'm not using anything like that
[02:32] <baltier> Jack_Sparrow: have you seen "Epic Movie"?
[02:32] <Jack_Sparrow> darwin81: if you have a machine that has been updated, copy the var/cache/apt/archive folder to a cd
[02:33] <dissection> dsnyders: I'm using AllTray to minimize my apps to tray, thats it
[02:33] <pi3> in what way is linspire "powered by ubuntu"?
[02:33] <bruenig> pi3, who says it is
[02:33] <Justi1> How can I check to see if my video card is using 3d drivers?
[02:33] <SkippySkip1234> RGautier, did you get my last message, you can say no, thats fine too
[02:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Tama00: Sorry I dont have a better answer, but knowing that now may save you more trouble later
[02:33] <rolfen> jkthecjer: so you can locate your module source then type something like "make /path/to/module/module_name.ko" ... dunno how well it works.
[02:33] <pi3> bruenig: http://www.linspire.com/
[02:33] <RGautier> Skippy - didn't get message - repeat
[02:33] <Jack_Sparrow> baltier: No sorry...
[02:34] <SkippySkip1234> RGautier: would you be able to send me your xorg.conf file so I can compare?  i don't know if that's a security issue...
[02:34] <Tama00> Jack_Sparrow, im just checking the log message now could show something interesting
[02:34] <Justi1> How can I check to see if my video card is using 3d drivers?
[02:34] <bruenig> pi3, ubuntu base plus commercial closed stuff on top. bundle it together slap price tag on it and you have linspire
[02:34] <RGautier> Skippy - yes - I can cut/paste - IM me on Yahoo or ICQ or MSN?  (pick one)
[02:35] <dsnyders> dissection, I'm not familiar with alltray either.
[02:35] <bruenig> alltray is nice although buggy when used with wine apps
[02:35] <jkthecjer> roflen: thanks, but i think ill just let it finish, if the damn module still doesnt work (cypress_m8), ill try building it individually while tinkering with it
  i 'm trying to learn linux, do you think to start it's better Ubuntu? or better? Does: more emphasis on user input, means that i have to know programing ?
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Tama00: all you are likely to see are read errors
[02:35] <rolfen> jkthecjer: np
[02:35] <RGautier> Skippy - ? pick an IM service
[02:35] <pi3> bruenig: so it's like ubuntu but paying for the closed drivers.. etc
[02:35] <Justi1> How can I check to see if my video card is using 3d drivers?
[02:35] <RGautier> PMs on IRC dont seem to get to me
[02:36] <SkippySkip1234> oh ok
[02:36] <Russian> bye everyone thanks for help
[02:36] <SkippySkip1234> ummmm
[02:36] <dissection> dsnyders: I closed AllTray.. The problem's still there.. There were no problems till earlier today.
[02:36] <bruenig> thermodynamics44, no linux distribution requires you to know anything about programming. Gentoo is all about you making all the decisions and all the choices about your system. If you don't know what those decisions are or mean, you will be in the dark.
[02:36] <jkthecjer> thermodynamics44: you dont really NEED to know how to program to use linux, it helps for doing things more efficiently later on, but its definitely not required
[02:36] <SkippySkip1234> RGautier can i give you my email?
[02:36] <ScreaminIke> i know that my monitor can support 1280x1024, but when i try to make itdo that through x, it tells me that it's out of range, but then reports back that that IS the maximum range. it was working fine this morning. something got foobar'ed today when messing around with screensaver settings. help?
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Justi1: try running glxgears from terminal
[02:36] <RGautier> Maybe you can help me with that problem ;)
[02:36] <RGautier> Skippy - sure
[02:36] <dsnyders> dissection, I'm not sure what to suggest.  Did you have the problem before today, or was it twice today?
[02:37] <Tama00> Jack_Sparrow, i got a model number mismatch..
[02:37] <rolfen> Justil: may sound silly but you can try to run a 3d game...
[02:37] <dissection> dsnyders: This is the 2nd time today. No problems before this
[02:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Justi1: That cant be good
[02:37] <bruenig> pi3, right, from the about page it is ubuntu, plus codecs, drivers, flash and java and kde
[02:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Tama00: that cant be good
[02:37] <SkippySkip1234> haha sorry im more of an aim fan, i only irc for this forum.  my email is r_buck@hotmail.com
[02:37] <RGautier> Skippy - email me at r_gautier@yahoo.com
[02:37] <FuM-Lapto> Hello
[02:37] <Justi1> I can run 3d screensavers and games, but they (especially the screensavers) seem rather laggy and choppy
[02:37] <SkippySkip1234> i'll email you
[02:37] <havanger> hello everyone
[02:37] <dsnyders> dissection, have you made any changes to your machine lately?  New software installed, perhaps?
[02:38] <rolfen> Justil: do you have an Nvidia card?
[02:38] <dissection> Oh crap, dsnyders I cleared the window again and missed your message. Sorry I'm obsessed with /clear :(
[02:38] <Justi1> rolfen: ati mobility radeon x1400
[02:38] <dsnyders> dissection, how long before today was it running problem free?
[02:38] <dissection> dsnyders: About 4 hours
[02:39] <FuM-Laptop> I need a bit help with the installation of ubuntu cause it seems to not be responding to a partition i created for it.
[02:39] <RGautier> Sent you mine Skippy
[02:39] <havanger> who would like to hold my hand in helping my connect to my wireless network?
[02:39] <dsnyders> dissection, is this a fresh install?
[02:39] <FuM-Laptop> And I really want to dual boot windows and ubuntu.
[02:39] <bruenig> havanger, do iwconfig make sure a card shows up with stuff
[02:39] <havanger> k
[02:39] <Jack_Sparrow> FuM-Laptop: I prefer to leave unallocated space and let the installer partition it.. what error go you get
[02:40] <dissection> dsnyders: I installed it last week
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> FuM-Laptop: I dual boot as well
[02:40] <havanger> i have one on eth1
[02:40] <RGautier> Can anyone tell me why I don't get IRC PMs with GAIM?
[02:40] <bruenig> havanger, ok do sudo iwlist eth1 scan
[02:40] <FuM-Laptop> If I partition a space with the partitioner will it delete my old info on the hdd?
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> RGautier: is your nick registered
[02:40] <RGautier> yes
[02:40] <FuM-Laptop> Cause at this moment I really don't trust it
[02:40] <bruenig> havanger, should see access points
[02:40] <rolfen> Justil: I'm really not sure but I think you must install "linux-restricted-modules" to have the ATI driver... but as I said I'm really not sure
[02:40] <shiester_miester> FuM-Laptop, not if u do it maunally
[02:40] <dsnyders> dissection, So, you installed last week. and it was running problem free until today?
[02:40] <havanger> says: interface doesn't support scaning : no such device
[02:40] <FuM> May you run me through it manually? I don't want to mess up
[02:41] <bruenig> havanger, ask someone else then
[02:41] <rolfen> Justil: I wish someone would confirm that... what ver of ubuntu do you have btw?
[02:41] <dissection> dsnyders: Yes
[02:41] <havanger> bruenig: lol, ok
[02:41] <shiester_miester> FuM, ok.  first you go into the partitioner and select "manual"
[02:41] <cas3> hey, does anyones boot hang on configuring network?
[02:41] <cas3> for like a couple of minutes
[02:41] <FuM> Did, shiester_miester
[02:41] <dsnyders> dissection, did you install anything today or yesterday?
[02:41] <dissection> dsnyders: No, nothing at all
[02:41] <aaroncampbell> Is there a Java application that prints properly?  I have Zend Studio, and it doesn't print.  They blame my Java install, so I want to test it.  However, apparently Eclipse doesn't print.  Is there anything in the repos that could just be installed via adept that is Java and prints?
[02:41] <shiester_miester> FuM, do you have some free, unpartitioned space?
[02:42] <FuM> lots
[02:42] <FuM> 400
[02:42] <shiester_miester> FuM, mb or gb?  im guessing the latter
[02:42] <FuM> Ill give 150 to my ubuntu
[02:42] <FuM> GB
[02:42] <euclid_> hi guys
[02:42] <shiester_miester> you probably don't need that much :P
[02:42] <FuM> I know
[02:42] <shiester_miester> although it depends on what you want to do with it
[02:42] <FuM> =] 
[02:42] <euclid_> Can someone help me with "fdisk" and resizing a partition?
[02:42] <godfather> hi im josh i need some help loading ubuntu
[02:42] <FuM> But I want my ubuntu for movies
[02:42] <FuM> and to use the beryl shit
[02:42] <shiester_miester> i just use my existing NTFS partitions to store data
[02:43] <rolfen> euclid_: why dont you use gparted? I dont know if you can resize in fdisk anyway
[02:43] <shiester_miester> FuM, lol beryl is a few mb, its tiny
[02:43] <FuM> I know
[02:43] <FuM> lol
[02:43] <dissection> dsnyders: Could it be a problem with GNOME?
[02:43] <Pelo> is there a restrction on putting symlinks in FAT32 partitions ?
[02:43] <FuM> But I want to run a movie on each side of the cube for the hell of it
[02:43] <retour> I have problems with my newly installed Video card with dual DVI ports and LCD panel over DVI port. It says not detected - if plugged over DVI + VGA adapter to VGA port of my LCD panle it works. Does it mean my DVI port is bad?
[02:43] <shiester_miester> FuM, what video card do you have?
[02:43] <FuM> Ok im at the menu shiester
[02:43] <rolfen> FuM: is that possible?
[02:43] <godfather> okay. when i load from the 6.10 and the new live cd, it loads n then says x server failed to start. how do i fix it
[02:43] <shiester_miester> rolfen, yes its definitely possible
[02:43] <euclid_> rolfen, my laptop has a hidden partition and I am trying to understand the values that "fdisk -l /dev/sda" prints so that I can save the partition and MBR. Can you help?
[02:43] <FuM> Nvidia, 7900gtx x2
[02:44] <FuM> 4 gigs ram
[02:44] <FuM> =] 
[02:44] <shiester_miester> FuM, ok, you might have some problems with beryl / compiz, but i hope u dont
[02:44] <shiester_miester> the nvidia drivers can be quirky
[02:44] <torhu> how do I get ubuntu to use 800x600 for the startup screen?
[02:44] <Pelo> godfather,  what video card ?  nvidia or ati you will need to use the alternate install cd
[02:44] <shiester_miester> FuM, although i got mine working, at the cost of some alightly lower performance
[02:44] <Justi1> when I install a program (aka google earth), what is the difference between the install path and the binary path?
[02:44] <godfather> nvidia
[02:44] <Pelo> torhu,  remove the extra resolutions from /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:45] <dsnyders> dissection, I'm stumped.  I don't think it's a gnome problem. but I can't say that for sure.  You could try installing KDE and see if you have better luck.  However, check the log files especially dmesg and messages to see if there are any errors reported.
[02:45] <bruenig> Justi1, there is no such thing as an install path
[02:45] <FuM> Shiester, how do i partition it manualy? I'm on the screen
[02:45] <shiester_miester> FuM, oh well, anyway create a partition as big as u want, make sure its set to start at the beginning of the free space and give it a mount point of "/"
[02:45] <dissection> dsnyders: How do I check them?
[02:45] <rolfen> euclid_: i dont know... I'm trying to understand the output myself
[02:45] <Justi1> bruenig: that's what it says in the installer
[02:45] <FuM> How do i go by doing that?
[02:45] <shiester_miester> FuM, oh and i recommend you make it an ext3 partition
[02:45] <godfather> but will that same error occur when i boot after the install. i need to dual boot and im kind of nervous doing it thru text based installer
[02:45] <bruenig> Justi1, what does it say word for word
[02:45] <torhu> Pelo: uh, I just want to set the startup and shutdown resolution, won't xorg.conf affect the whole thing?
[02:45] <dsnyders> dissection, cd /var/log, then less messages
[02:45] <cas3> noone else has had that problem then?
[02:45] <Pelo> godfather,  you'll need to download and use the alternate install cd for your installstion,   it it text based,  it will install a vesa driver for the installtion then you can install the proper driver for the nvidia card
[02:45] <shiester_miester> FuM, right click the free space and click "create partition" i think, or maybe there's a button for it or something
[02:46] <galactus> join #ubuntu-forum-meeting-pt no freenode
[02:46] <FuM> Ya
[02:46] <Pelo> torhu,  sorry I guess I missunderstood what you wanted to do
[02:46] <godfather> i want to dual boot windows and linux
[02:46] <shiester_miester> FuM, yeah i think there is a button for it just under the partition area
[02:46] <FuM> New partition table
[02:46] <godfather> and install linux on a separate HD. will it let me do that?
[02:46] <FuM> IT says
[02:46] <Justi1> bruenig: it has two text boxes. One is labled "Install path:", the other is labeled "Binary path:"
[02:46] <shiester_miester> ok
[02:46] <dsnyders> diss, or System->Administration->System Log if you like things GUI
[02:46] <kbrooks_> hi.
[02:46] <euclid_> Can anyone help with putting Ubuntu 7.04 Desktop i386 on a Lenovo 3000 N100 laptop computer that contains a custom MBR and hidden partition that I seek to record to DVD? THANK YOU. I very much want Ubuntu on my laptop.
[02:46] <Pelo> godfather,  you'll ber able to do that with the alternate install cd as well
[02:46] <godfather> k. thank you
[02:47] <dissection> dsnyders: I think those are errors written there but I don't know what they mean
[02:47] <shiester_miester> FuM, ok make sure the partition doesnt take up ALL of the free space, make it as big as u like but i wouldn't go too big :P
[02:47] <FuM> You have selected an entire device to partition. IF you proceed with creating a new partition table on the device, then all current partitions will be removed.
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> godfatherWhat error do you get trying to install ?
[02:47] <cas3> ok, thanks a lot
[02:47] <shiester_miester> FuM, err no, thats not what you want to do
[02:47] <kbrooks_> !anyone | euclid_
[02:47] <ubotu> euclid_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:47] <FuM> Thats what it says
[02:47] <bruenig> Justi1, that is confusing. There is such a thing as an install prefix, which you would want to set to /usr, generally you set an install prefix and the binary path is understood as /usr/bin. That is the only thing I could think of. that makes any sense. I would just put those in.
[02:47] <shiester_miester> FuM, is there another button that says "create partition in existing free space" or something?
[02:47] <FuM> Noope
[02:47] <euclid_> ubotu, I did ask my question
[02:48] <bruenig> !opsnack | euclid_
[02:48] <ubotu> euclid_: Chocolate!  And Peanuts!
[02:48] <shiester_miester> FuM, is there anything else on the device?
[02:48] <kbrooks_> euclid_, ubotu is a bot
[02:48] <dsnyders> euclid_, you're talking to a robot
[02:48] <bruenig> kbrooks, dsnyders killjoys
[02:48] <FuM> wait
[02:48] <Justi1> bruenig: I am really new to this; what is generally found in the /usr directory?
[02:48] <RGautier> euclid - your problem is going to be your 'custom MBR'
[02:48] <kbrooks_> euclid_, i instructed him to speak to you about a specific topic.
[02:48] <FuM> I got it working with my 50 gig partition that i made for it niw
[02:48] <kitche> euclid_: usually computers come with a program to burn the recovery stuff to a dvd or it's avaiable on the manufactures website
[02:48] <FuM> now*
[02:48] <dsnyders> bruenig, Sorry.  I didn't mean to spoil your fun
[02:48] <bruenig> Justi1, that is where all of the applications are installed
[02:48] <thermodynamics44> hahahahahaha
[02:49] <bruenig> Justi1, outside of real basic utilities which are installed in /
[02:49] <shiester_miester> FuM, do you mean that you already have a 50gb ext3 partition?
[02:49] <FuM> " No root file system is defined. Please correct this from the partitioning menu."
[02:49] <mattycoze1> hay guys can someone take a look at this; something went wrong in sudo apt-get commandhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29428/
[02:49] <FuM> I made a 50 gig partition earlier
[02:49] <Justi1> bruenig: ok; what about the /opt folder? in a previous installation of earth, it installed to /opt/googleearth
[02:49] <FuM> But it wouldnt use it for some reason.
[02:49] <euclid_> kitche, the hidden partition program is needed to run the recovery CD's that would be made. That is why I'd rather make an exact byte-for-byte backup of the hidden partition and the MBR.
[02:49] <n1> whats the easiest way with iptables to forward port 5500 from 192.168.1.2 to 10.0.0.4 regardless of which interfaces are involved? there's masquerading setup on the machine which connects to both subnets
[02:49] <shiester_miester> FuM, yeah you have to set "/" as the mount point
[02:50] <FuM> just "/"
[02:50] <kitche> euclid_: yes you have to get one of the programs that has it it does what you want
[02:50] <FuM> Or "/media/sd5"
[02:50] <kbrooks_> FuM, / == root
[02:50] <FuM> Perfect
[02:50] <havanger> can someone help me with unbunu to recognize my wireless card, please
[02:50] <bruenig> Justi1, /opt is good, I don't know how google installs stuff but /opt could make sense. I know azureus and firefox should generally be installed in /opt. Anything that is just extracted and run goes in /opt
[02:50] <YGingras> are backports dead?  Where can I find Emacs22 for Feisty?
[02:50] <kbrooks_> FuM, do you know what the /etc/fstab file is?
[02:50] <shiester_miester> FuM, yes, just "/".  it it's mounted as something else then i hope it doesn't have any data on it :/
[02:50] <RGautier> euclid - you could use dd and the raw devices
[02:50] <euclid_> kitche, Is it possible to use 'dd' for the exact copy and then burn that to a DVD using "cdrecorder" of the LiveCD?
[02:50] <Jack_Sparrow> euclid_: You can use the dd command to get the mbr and as much else as you need...  it is a powerful tool but anything that powerful can also be dangerous
[02:50] <FuM> How do i assign a swap space?
[02:50] <Bulli_> @FuM you want two videos on two sides of the cube? You can use two different players. Then you have two videos
[02:51] <younghacker> does anybody know how to turn a computer into an air conditioner
[02:51] <mattycoze1> hay guys can someone take a look at this; something went wrong in sudo apt-get commandhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29428/
[02:51] <younghacker> it's hot
[02:51] <shiester_miester> FuM, same way you created your other partition, but instead of selecting "ext3", select "swap"
[02:51] <kitche> euclid_: yes but why would you since you might mess up the hidden partition
[02:51] <osxdude|desktop> I'm using a different IRC client rather than xchat
[02:51] <FuM> How big should it be, Shiester_miester?
[02:51] <shiester_miester> FuM, and as a good rule of thumb, make the swap partition about 1.5x your ram
[02:51] <nano__> hello chat de ubuntu in spanish????
[02:51] <kbrooks_> shiester_miester, bad rule
[02:51] <Justi1> bruenig: how can I delete stuff from /opt? it gives me a privilege error when I try
[02:52] <kbrooks_> shiester_miester, what if he has 2 gb of ram? 4 gb?
[02:52] <shiester_miester> kbrooks_, thats what ive always heard :/ whats bad about it?
[02:52] <euclid_> Jack_Sparrow, I've been reading about "dd", MBR and partitions for 3 days now. I've backed up the MBR and the volume boot loaders for the two partitions. I don't know how to copy the partition to DVD using "dd" though since "dd" can not write to DVD apparently.
[02:52] <FuM> I got 400g to spare Kbrooks
[02:52] <bruenig> Justi1, sudo
[02:52] <kbrooks_> shiester_miester, 8 gb? 16 gb? :-)
[02:52] <shiester_miester> kbrooks_, 2*1.5 = 3
[02:52] <FuM> I dont mind using 10gigs
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> euclid_: yes, or you can compress it as well.. check out the dd command
[02:52] <nano__> algun servidor chat de ubuntu en espaol??
[02:52] <shiester_miester> FuM, you do NOT need that much swap space :P
[02:52] <shiester_miester> ever
[02:52] <mrsno> !es
[02:52] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:52] <shiester_miester> you won't use it unless you are doing some ridiculously insane stuff
[02:52] <Daggra> hello world!
[02:52] <mrsno> nano ^
[02:52] <IndyGunFreak> !es | nano
[02:52] <ubotu> nano: please see above
[02:52] <FuM> So
[02:52] <astro76> Justi1, do you want to delete the google-earth folder in /opt ?
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> euclid_: Let me see if I can find my link for dd
[02:52] <RGautier> euclid >> != << - be careful with dd ;)
[02:52] <RGautier> euclid - you'll have to write the DVD with a program - you cant just write it raw
[02:52] <FuM> For my 4g of ram how much would I need
[02:52] <kbrooks_> fum: using 10 gb is slow :-)
[02:52] <Justi1> astro76: yes
[02:53] <dsnyders> Fum, too large a swap space can cause problems
[02:53] <kbrooks_> FuM, only 128 mb
[02:53] <astro76> Justi1, sudo rm -rf /opt/google-earth
[02:53] <RGautier> If you've dd'd them to files - write the files out to your CD/DVD
[02:53] <kbrooks_> FuM,  (not below!)
[02:53] <Mocheeze> Is there a photo processing solution for Ubuntu that I can use to auto crop single scan of multiple images into separate files?
[02:53] <astro76> Justi1, sudo rm /usr/local/bin/googleearth
[02:53] <shiester_miester> kbrooks_, why so little?
[02:53] <Daggra> i don't have swap partition in my ubuntu
[02:53] <kbrooks_> shiester_miester, 4 gb
[02:53] <astro76> Justi1, and there's a .desktop file somewhere too
[02:53] <Daggra> an d it works fine
[02:53] <kitche> euclid_: it's just eaiser to burn the recovery partition to dvd with the tool that they use it will restore your MBR and everything
[02:53] <shiester_miester> true, not much will use 4gb ram
[02:54] <kbrooks_> FuM, 256 mb is fine too
[02:54] <shiester_miester> FuM, do u know what swap space is for?
[02:54] <euclid_> Jack_Sparrow, I've read "dd" for two days straight. The problem is that Linux can not write to NTFS and since I am using the LiveCD if I attempt to use "dd" to write to file it will write to virtual memory and there isn't enough of it. That means I need a way to use "dd" to write from the partition to DVD directly.
[02:54] <FuM> No
[02:54] <kbrooks_> FuM, 512 too, but not anything above 512
[02:54] <LinuxProbie> Oki, trying again. I can't seem to get audio through my Plantronics Gamecom Pro1. Can anyone help me out, please?
[02:54] <Justi1> astro76; bruenig; should I reinstall googleearth to /usr or /usr/local?
[02:54] <astro76> Justi1, why not /opt ?
[02:54] <shiester_miester> FuM, swap space is for when an application tries to write to your RAM and your RAM is full, it has to put the data somewhere so it puts it in the swap partition
[02:54] <nick_> everytime I open an app I get a bunch of red pixels on my screen
[02:54] <euclid_> kitche, I would use the tool if it worked as you said, but it doesn't.
[02:54] <RGautier> euclid - not gonna happen - I don't know of any raw device for burning DVDs
[02:54] <nick_> can anyone help
[02:54] <astro76> Justi1, /opt is designed just for that type of software package which goes all in one folder
[02:54] <FuM> Can I go without it?
[02:55] <lore26> hola??
[02:55] <dissection> So anybody else has any idea how to fix this problem?
[02:55] <shiester_miester> FuM, nope
[02:55] <lore26> alguien en espaol?
[02:55] <Justi1> astro76: it doesn't seem to work, and I read on a forum to try /usr
[02:55] <younghacker> can you write from from partition to removable media with dd?
[02:55] <shiester_miester> FuM, well you CAN, but its very dangerous because as soon as you use your ram up, your programs will all start to screw up
[02:55] <FuM> Yo se espanol pero no se mucho de ubuntu para ayudarte
[02:55] <euclid_> younghacker, yes, at least to floppy.
[02:55] <kbrooks_> FuM, no, just set between 128 to 512 (not below or above!!!!!) mb of ram
[02:55] <younghacker> right,,,
[02:55] <shiester_miester> yeah i would go with the larger number just to be safe
[02:55] <younghacker> thanks euclid
[02:56] <Daggra> i hope it don't give me problems wito no swap partitions when i'll work with threads
[02:56] <FuM> But if I create another partition for the swap space it will delete all my other partitions
[02:56] <astro76> Justi1, I'd be very suprised if that makes a difference, I guess it wouldn't hurt since it'll all go in /usr/google-earth/
[02:56] <shiester_miester> FuM, no you arent creating a partition table
[02:56] <IndyGunFreak> FuM: just resize the partitioon you made cut a gig or so off, and use it for swap
[02:56] <shiester_miester> FuM, you are creating another partition in the existing free space
[02:56] <nick_> anyone else start getting red pixels on there screen after one of the recent updates
[02:56] <younghacker> humbug im still stuck on configuring vsftpd
[02:56] <younghacker> im in the conf file but wow
[02:56] <RGautier> You'd need the raw device to write to the DVD - but I don't think it will be usable?
[02:56] <shiester_miester> IndyGunFreak, he doesnt need to free up space, he has like 350gb left
[02:56] <younghacker> where do i start
[02:56] <kbrooks_> shiester_miester, my point: 64 mb of swap is useless. 1 gb is useless, since he has 4 gigabytes.
[02:57] <shiester_miester> kbrooks_, not useless if he needs to use 5gb of space :P but then why would he
[02:57] <IndyGunFreak> shiester_miester: yeah, you're right, i jsut caught that, i thought he was saying he installed and didn't have a swap
[02:57] <Jack_Sparrow> euclid_: this one isnt too bad..  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=362506
[02:57] <younghacker> this is why i wanted a GUI FTP server
[02:57] <shiester_miester> its not like 1gb will be missed out of 350, and its not going to slow down the system or anything
[02:57] <shiester_miester> younghacker, there are heaps of them
[02:57] <Justi1> astro76: what is the difference between /usr and /usr/local ?
[02:57] <euclid_> RGautier, I'd like to write directly but apparently dd can not do that for DVD. "cdrecorder" can.
[02:57] <kitche> younghacker: you can install a gui for vsftpd if you wish
[02:57] <shiester_miester> younghacker, google it and you can find lots
[02:57] <astro76> younghacker, may I ask for what use is the ftp server?
[02:57] <younghacker> really
[02:57] <younghacker> personal use
[02:57] <younghacker> =)
[02:57] <shiester_miester> younghacker, yes
[02:57] <LinuxProbie> I must be invisible... >.<
[02:57] <kbrooks_> shiester_miester, too much swap can cause problems, like if it uses all of swap (it won't, but just in case...)
[02:58] <kitche> euclid_: just so you know you won't be able to use the dvd as a bootable one
[02:58] <euclid_> ty Jack
[02:58] <shiester_miester> LinuxProbie, yes you are, nobody can see you
[02:58] <kbrooks_> Linux_Junkie, you are here
[02:58] <LucianIndy> !paste
[02:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:58] <younghacker> so just google vsftpd + GUI
[02:58] <RGautier> Yeah - I don't think /dev/dvd supports raw output
[02:58] <astro76> Justi1, /usr is the system software, i.e. all managed by apt, /usr/local is for locally compiled software
[02:58] <euclid_> kitche, I have the LiveCD to use and then would use that 'dd' to make the partition.
[02:58] <dsnyders> euclid_, use dd to read the partition, and write it to a file.  Then use cdrecord, or k3b to write that file to dvd
[02:58] <younghacker> or brb
[02:58] <younghacker> brb
[02:58] <shiester_miester> kbrooks_, that didnt make sense...having more swap will mean it gets exhausted slower than having less swap
[02:58] <RGautier> He says he cant write the file...
[02:58] <Justi1> astro76: so I should install it to /usr/local ?
[02:58] <astro76> Justi1, it would be better to go for /usr/local/ if you really want to try something besides /opt
[02:59] <Justi1> astro76: okay
[02:59] <dissection> dsnyders: Is there any other channels for ubuntu help?
[02:59] <euclid_> dsnyders, Using the LiveCD and only other NTFS partition for the laptop that isn't possible since "dd" will try to write to memory.
[02:59] <LinuxProbie> Guess that means noone has any idea how to fix the headset...It's terribly frustrating, nothing on the forums worked, except for generating a lout beep that REALLY hurt my ears, I haven't gotten a single sound to issue from the headset.
[02:59] <RGautier> You might've blown the headset?
[02:59] <LucianIndy> i need a yes/no answer for http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29429/
[03:00] <mattycoze1> hay guys can someone take a look at this; something went wrong in sudo apt-get commandhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29428/
[03:00] <shiester_miester> LinuxProbie, when working with headsets its best to leave them off until you get them working :P
[03:00] <lore26> alguien k sepa hblar en espaol?
[03:00] <lore26> fum estas?
[03:00] <astro76> LucianIndy, yes
[03:00] <LucianIndy> astro76, thanks
[03:00] <FuM> Si estoy
[03:00] <euclid_> Jack_Sparrow: I read the entire link you provided today. It doesn't solve my problem.
[03:00] <IndyGunFreak> LucianIndy: yes
[03:00] <LucianIndy> needed to know for session startup
[03:00] <FuM> No se mucho de ubuntu
[03:00] <FuM> perdon
[03:00] <lore26> tu sabes algun canal en espaol??
[03:00] <dsnyders> euclid_, Oh. Right.  Any possibility of mounting a share from another machine? or an external USB drive?
[03:00] <shiester_miester> !es | lore26
[03:00] <LinuxProbie> shiester_miester, Yes...my ears (which still hurt) agree with you. Any ideas for me?
[03:00] <ubotu> lore26: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:00] <LucianIndy> hey IndyGunFreak, thanks
[03:00] <Fuzzyghost> Heya
[03:00] <FuM> !es
[03:01] <leonel> lore26: ubuntu-es
[03:01] <lore26> ok
[03:01] <lore26> gracias
[03:01] <euclid_> dsnyders: I've Ubuntu a networked desktop. Can I send the output from "dd" to a file on it?
[03:01] <FuM> K, Installing
[03:01] <Supaplex> What can I use to be prompted for my ssh password if I run "ssh -nX host app" from a shortcut? I don't need a terminal etc.
[03:01] <retour> I have problems with my newly installed Video card with dual DVI ports and LCD panel over DVI port. It says not detected - if plugged over DVI + VGA adapter to VGA port of my LCD panle it works. Does it mean my DVI port is bad?
[03:01] <shiester_miester> LinuxProbie, mess around with the audio settings, and make sure its in the right plug.  i spent an hour yesterday trying to get a microphone working because it was in the wrong jack
[03:01] <dissection> Is there anyway I can kill the desktop and start it again (not reboot or logout)
[03:01] <Fuzzyghost> I recently downloaded Ubuntu 7.04 Amd 64 edition, and am trying to install it on an AMD 64 athlon.
[03:02] <LinuxProbie> shiester_miester, It's usb...don't think I have it in the wrong plug.
[03:02] <astro76> LucianIndy, wait that's not right
[03:02] <LinuxProbie> dissection, ctrl+alt+backspace
[03:02] <shiester_miester> mattycoze1, nothing went wrong, you just need to install those extra packages, i think
[03:02] <dsnyders> euclid_, if you can mount a drive via samba or nfs, then dd will be able to write to it.
[03:02] <LucianIndy> astro76, ?
[03:02] <Fuzzyghost> Unfortunately, the AMD will not try to boot the CD.
[03:02] <rolfen> dissection: ctl-alt-backspace will log you out
[03:02] <madman91> hey guys
[03:02] <euclid_> dsnyders: What terms should I google to learn how to do that?
[03:02] <shiester_miester> LinuxProbie, im not sure how well ubuntu supports various USB devices :/
[03:02] <madman91> whats a good 1:1 dvd copier?
[03:02] <astro76> LucianIndy, one | is a pipe, you could do && (technically will only run the second item if the first succeeds)
[03:02] <younghacker> ok what are some other names for FTP servers with a GUI other than vsftpd
[03:02] <astro76> LucianIndy, I'm not sure if || works off the top of my head
[03:03] <FuM> Fuzzyghost, make sure your bios is set to boot from CD and that your CD is in the first CD tray.
[03:03] <madman91> i have 9gb dvds and want to copy protected dvds to them.. what is good for that.. k9copy ?
[03:03] <Fuzzyghost> I've went into the boot options, made the CD the priority, but it doesn't work.
[03:03] <shiester_miester> LinuxProbie, you could always get a usb -> audio jack converter and just use it normally
[03:03] <LinuxProbie> shiester_miester, The wierd thing though, is that it recognizes it, it's in my audio control panel, I just can't get sound through it.
[03:03] <dissection> LinuxProbie, rolfen: No, not logout. I need to kill the desktop if thats possible. My desktop icons have disappeared (2nd time today) and I don't want to log out each time this happens.
[03:03] <rolfen> dissection: not sure what exactly you want
[03:03] <LucianIndy> i just want to use one entry in session manager instead of two to keep things tidy
[03:03] <kitche> younghacker: they all might have a gui but not built in by default it's 3rd party
[03:03] <yallax> guys my lspci for my wireless card is: "05:02.0 Ethernet controller [0200] : D-Link System Inc DWL-510 2.4GHz Wireless PCI Adapter [1186:3300]  (rev 20)" but i cant seem to connect to the acess point..i dont even know if this is installed properly
[03:03] <younghacker> i see
[03:03] <dsnyders> euclid_, samba, nfs
[03:03] <euclid_> k
[03:03] <euclid_> thanks
[03:03] <shiester_miester> dissection, to kill the desktop means killing X and/or gnome which means you WILL have to log out and back in
[03:03] <younghacker> so then take any GUI to go with vsftpd?
[03:03] <shiester_miester> dissection, you are logging into your desktop, so killing the desktop means you have to do it again
[03:03] <LinuxProbie> dissection, ctrl+alt+backspace restarts X, and you have to log back in, unfortunately, that's the only way to restart the desktop
[03:03] <Fuzzyghost> I guess I picked a busy time.  I'll wait.
[03:04] <LucianIndy> well, i just did compiz --replace | gtk-window-decorator --replace in alt+f2 and it worked fine but i wanted to reference it here incase i come up with some problems in the future
[03:04] <rolfen> dissection: i know the command for XFCE but not for gnome... sorry :)
[03:04] <pi3> wow, .doc is a *** **** *****
[03:04] <LucianIndy> so i should use && or ||
[03:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Fuzzyghost: It is always busy., what dosent work about the cd booting?
[03:04] <astro76> LucianIndy, yeah it's ||
[03:04] <LinuxProbie> shiester_miester, I suppose Icould try that, just makes more cables >.<
[03:04] <astro76> LucianIndy, || is logical or, && is logical and
[03:04] <nano__> cual es la direccion de un server char en espaol?????
[03:04] <nano__> chat
[03:04] <shiester_miester> LinuxProbie, not more cables, just a little converter, its just like an extra plug that goes on the end
[03:04] <dissection> rolfen, shiester_miester, LinuxProbie: Okay, anyway I can find out whats wrong with it? My desktop icons have disappeared, right click on desktop doesn't work, I can't open any folders
[03:05] <FuM> #ubuntu-es
[03:05] <pi3> !es | nano__
[03:05] <ubotu> nano__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:05] <nano__> thanks
[03:05] <Fuzzyghost> It refuses to try and install/boot from the CD.  It instead, tries to load a dead Windows XP setup, which always hangs.
[03:05] <shiester_miester> dissection, are you running any compositing software?
[03:05] <shiester_miester> like beryl or compiz
[03:05] <LinuxProbie> dissection, I've had that problem in windows before (restarting explorer.exe always fixed that), dunno what it means in ubuntu
[03:05] <dissection> shiester_miester: No
[03:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Fuzzyghost: Have you tried the cd in any other box
[03:05] <shiester_miester> ok
[03:05] <shiester_miester> hmm
[03:05] <LucianIndy> astro76, thanks just changed my sessions entry to ||
[03:05] <Fuzzyghost> Any other machine?  No, I only have the one AMD.
[03:06] <dissection> shiester_miester: No beryl or compiz or anything of that sort
[03:06] <nuked_omen> how do i know which in the /dev directory is my cd?
[03:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Fuzzyghost: Do you know the cd works...   that it dosent just have one *.iso file on it
[03:06] <LucianIndy> since i did alt+f2 as | only will i encounter any problems?
[03:06] <shiester_miester> dissection, does restarting gnome fix the problem?  press ctrl+alt+f1 and type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[03:06] <dissection> LinuxProbie: Yeah something like that was what I was trying to do too (if possible)
[03:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Fuzzyghost: How about this.. where did you get the cd
[03:06] <Fuzzyghost> Unfortunately I don't.  Now that you mention it, I have had problem with some of the live/install CDs I've burned.
[03:06] <astro76> LucianIndy, come again?
[03:06] <LinuxProbie> dissection, There's no way to do that sadly.
[03:06] <shiester_miester> dissection, what i told you to do is pretty much like restarting explorer in windows...gnome is the GUI for linux, essentially
[03:07] <shiester_miester> well, the gui that most people use in ubuntu
[03:07] <kitche> younghacker: there is a webmin module for vsftpd but I don't suggest webmin myself
[03:07] <LucianIndy> i put 'compiz --replace | gtk-window-decorator --replace' in the alt+f2 run dialog
[03:07] <LinuxProbie> dissection, what are you generally doing when everything goes missing?
[03:07] <havanger> looking for instructions on how to install a .tar.bz2 file
[03:07] <Fuzzyghost> I guess I'll order some AMD copies, those should hopefully work.
[03:07] <s25> Hey folks any advice on how i can free up enough space on / to do a dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[03:07] <astro76> LucianIndy, oh, yeah that should be fine
[03:07] <shiester_miester> ok the gui that the people who arent using KDE use
[03:07] <nuked_omen> cds are /dev/hdc right?
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Fuzzyghost: Need to have a known good burn in order to continuw
[03:07] <LucianIndy> k
[03:07] <astro76> LucianIndy, gtk-window-decorator probably doesn't take input anyway
[03:07] <LucianIndy> what is a 'pipe' for?
[03:07] <younghacker> lol thanks,, vsftpd is now offcially off my box im going with a new one
[03:07] <dissection> LinuxProbie: Nothing, I was just browsing and using IRC, nothing else
[03:07] <preaction> nuked_omen: no, it depends on where your cdrom is. usually it makes a symlink to /dev/cdrom
[03:07] <younghacker> with a GUI
[03:07] <astro76> LucianIndy, connecting standard output of first item to standard input of second
[03:07] <younghacker> lol in fact i took the GUI first
[03:07] <LucianIndy> oh
[03:07] <shiester_miester> LinuxProbie, what were you talking about that he was trying to do and you said you cant?
[03:07] <LucianIndy> ok
[03:07] <Fuzzyghost> Yeah, K3B said it was binary equal, but maybe something went wrong in the download.
[03:08] <Fuzzyghost> BRB
[03:08] <LinuxProbie> shiester_miester, restart X without logging out.
[03:08] <shiester_miester> oh, yeah u cant do that :P
[03:08] <LucianIndy> so that's probably why when i put the commands backwards (gtk first, compiz second) i had some issues
[03:08] <Justi1> what is a "symbolic link"?
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Fuzzyghost: wait
[03:08] <nuked_omen> preaction: thanks
[03:08] <shiester_miester> but its not like logging in is a huge problem
[03:08] <astro76> LucianIndy, indeed
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Fuzzyghost: Still here
[03:08] <shiester_miester> dissection, try restarting gnome as i said earlier and then tell us how it goes
[03:08] <shiester_miester> dissection, that should fix the problem temporarily
[03:08] <havanger> need help on installing a *.tar.bz2 file
[03:09] <IndyGunFreak> havanger: what program is it?
[03:09] <LucianIndy> is it possible to do such and such hotkey switches to a gnome desktop and another hotkey switches to KDE? just curious
[03:09] <havanger> fwcutter-006
[03:09] <madman91> hey guys
[03:09] <IndyGunFreak> isn't that in the repos?
[03:09] <FuM> Shiester_meister, may you help me setup beryl to work?
[03:09] <havanger> i don't know
[03:09] <madman91> why does kio_media_umount forcibly remove my dvd movie form its drive?
[03:09] <madman91> FuM: try #ubuntu-effects
[03:09] <retour> Anybody here with LCD panel with DVI port on Ubuntu?
[03:09] <ponicg> I need to install VMWare server on Ubuntu Edgy 6.10. It fails when it compiles the module
[03:09] <madman91> retour: i use dvi
[03:10] <IndyGunFreak> havanger: yes it is.
[03:10] <havanger> indygunfreak: i'll check
[03:10] <IndyGunFreak> go to System/Admin/Synaptic Package manager... do a search for fwcutter
[03:10] <deathspell> Hi, this is dissection. I pressed Ctrl+Alt+F1 and I'm in the command prompt, running irssi... I'm not sure how to go back to GNOME.. I'm stuck here lol
[03:10] <ponicg> the error i get is insmod: error inserting '/tmp/vmware-config3/vmmon.o': -1 Invalid module format
[03:10] <shiester_miester> FuM, if you want to use beryl.  i had problems with it, i think compiz-fusion is better
[03:10] <retour> madman91: I need some info how you panel behaves as I suspect hardware problem. Is it connected exclusively over DVI?
[03:11] <bryan986> Hi all, other than static IP, how can I get my computer to stop switching IP addresses every time it has to renew from the DHCP server? (In windows it keeps the same IP address every time)
[03:11] <madman91> retour: one 22inc widescreen dvi to my video card dvi
[03:11] <astro76> deathspell, try ctrl+alt+f7
[03:11] <IndyGunFreak> havanger: use the synaptic to install, it'll be much easier.
[03:11] <havanger> indy: what's the difference between snyaptic packager manager and add/remove application?
[03:11] <biotrox> want to ask something
[03:11] <biotrox> i don't get it
[03:11] <Justi1> Can I change my user account settings to give me access to /opt and /usr?
[03:11] <biotrox> in my xorg.conf
[03:11] <biotrox> i set to 1280 x 1024
[03:11] <dissection> shiester_miester: Give me the command to restart GNOME, again please.. I lost it when I pressed Ctrl+Alt+F1
[03:12] <biotrox> but sometimes
[03:12] <LinuxProbie> anywho, I'ma go play starcraft (gotta love wine for linux)
[03:12] <astro76> havanger, add/remove is a selected subset of the thousands of packages available
[03:12] <bryan986> dissection, ctrl+alt+backspace
[03:12] <RickH> havanger:  From what I've seen, the synaptic manager can resolve additional conflics Add/Remove cannot, plus it more clearly identifies the multiverse, universe, open-source, etc., categories better.
[03:12] <shiester_miester> bryan986, no that is not the right one
[03:12] <havanger> rickH: thanks
[03:12] <dissection> No, not that.. the one with sudo
[03:12] <shiester_miester> dissection, the command is "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart".  also, you can get back to the desktop after pressing ctrl+alt+f1 by pressing ctrl+alt+f7
[03:13] <shiester_miester> bryan986, ctrl+alt+backspace restarts the X server along with gnome and everything else
[03:13] <havanger> zomg
[03:13] <bryan986> depends on what you are trying to do
[03:13] <shiester_miester> bryan986, in this case we don't want to restart everything, just gnome
[03:13] <bryan986> ok
[03:13] <s25> startx shiester_miester
[03:13] <RickH> shiester_miester:  Does CA+Backspace work after CA+F1?
[03:13] <shiester_miester> RickH, no idea, try it and see, why dont you?
[03:13] <bryan986> i thought it did, but i dont want to try right now lol
[03:14] <dissection> Okay let me try
[03:14] <bryan986> lol
[03:14] <IndyGunFreak> havanger: what hapened
[03:14] <IndyGunFreak> ?
[03:14] <shiester_miester> s25, as i said, we dont want to restart x :P
[03:14] <Fuzzyghost> back
[03:14] <retour> madman91: Exactly what I have! 22 inch Sceptre WD. When plugged into video card with 2 DVI ports over DVI to VGA adapter and VGA input on panel it works. When I use DVI to DVI panel says NO SIGNAL! How yours behaves. Is DVI runs instantly without any video card drivers so you see BIOS POST etc! (dont have drivers for card installed yet)
[03:14] <s25> Oh sorry :p
[03:14] <shiester_miester> wb Fuzzyghost
[03:14] <mattycoze1> shiester_miester do you live in Australia?
[03:14] <Fuzzyghost> Thanks
[03:14] <madman91> retour: i see my BIOS and everything
[03:14] <shiester_miester> mattycoze1, yep
[03:15] <Justi1> How do I log into the root user account?
[03:15] <madman91> retour: in ubuntu i have nvidia-glx-new drivers
[03:15] <shiester_miester> mattycoze1, did you do a /whois?
[03:15] <madman91> Justi1: graphically or with commandline?
[03:15] <FuM> #ubuntu-effects is dead
[03:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Fuzzyghost: Next time.. right click the *.iso and select write to disk
[03:15] <IndyGunFreak> havanger: did it install ok?
[03:15] <Justi1> madman92: graphically
[03:15] <mattycoze1> shiester_miester nah, i think i recognise your name from somewhere else
[03:15] <shiester_miester> Justi1, you shouldnt need to
[03:15] <RickH> Ctrl+Alt+F1, followed by Ctrl+Alt+F7 works.
[03:15] <shiester_miester> mattycoze1, like where?
[03:15] <xFree> hi
[03:15] <loco_aullador> hi, i cant watch youtube videos in firefox, what can i do to what it?
[03:15] <mattycoze1> the griffith university christian club or something like that's website
[03:15] <shiester_miester> loco_aullador, install flash plugin
[03:15] <IndyGunFreak> !flash | loco_aullador
[03:15] <ubotu> loco_aullador: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[03:15] <RickH> loco_alludaor:  Install Macromedia flash.
[03:15] <shiester_miester> mattycoze1, you serious? you go there?
[03:15] <Justi1> shiester_miester: how do I install a program to /opt or /usr from my normal account?
[03:15] <LinuxProbie> can someone remind me of the command to mount a virtual image again?
[03:15] <dissection> shiester_miester: Well that basically restarted everything, and all my applications were closed
[03:16] <astro76> Justi1, sudo
[03:16] <shiester_miester> mattycoze1, i developed their website and have been going to that club for 3 years :D
[03:16] <mattycoze1> shiester_miester yeah, matt isn't it?
[03:16] <loco_aullador> shiester_miester,  IndyGunFreak ok thanxs
[03:16] <astro76> !sudo | Justi1
[03:16] <ubotu> Justi1: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:16] <Littlegator> lef4dead goty lol
[03:16] <IndyGunFreak> loco_aullador: no sweat
[03:16] <shiester_miester> mattycoze1, holy crap, i cant believe i ran into someone that knows me on IRC O_O
[03:16] <astro76> Justi1, sudo ./file.bin
[03:16] <mattycoze1> shiester_miester neither can i!
[03:16] <mattycoze1> i'm doing biomed at Griffith btw
[03:16] <Justi1> astro76: ok I get it
[03:16] <shiester_miester> dissection, yeah, restarting gnome restarts all the applications that need gnome to run
[03:16] <Justi1> astro76: I just run the installer with sudo?
[03:16] <retour> madman91: well so it sounds I have fried DVI port. Thank you for help. My last bet is DVI to HDMI adapter. Have you ever used this one?
[03:17] <shiester_miester> dissection, console-based apps won't restart, but all the GUI-based ones do
[03:17] <mattycoze1> i don't know if it was you but were you sitting next to my group on group sign on day?
[03:17] <mattycoze1> you offered to do my site for the GUAPA
[03:17] <madman91> retour: no.. i dont have an hdmi ports
[03:17] <astro76> Justi1, right, and don't forget the ./
[03:17] <Fuzzyghost> Okay, I'll try that.
[03:17] <shiester_miester> mattycoze1, haha i remember you, you were sitting next to that rather attractive girl
[03:17] <Fuzzyghost> Probably later though.
[03:17] <shiester_miester> well ok i remember her more than you, but what can i say, im a guy :P
[03:17] <Fuzzyghost> Thanks for your help.
[03:17] <DjViper> how do I restart nautilus completely?
[03:17] <dissection> shiester_miester: Okay so how do I fix the problem? Restarting again n again when the problem occurs shouldn't be my only option, should it?
[03:17] <shiester_miester> but i definitely remember you as well
[03:17] <mattycoze1> shiester_miester lol
[03:18] <RickH> What does SUDO stand for?
[03:18] <shiester_miester> dissection, no it shouldnt
[03:18] <Fuzzyghost> Super User Do
[03:18] <CPF_> RickH: Super user do
[03:18] <RickH> SU do?
[03:18] <RickH> Yeah, thought so.
[03:18] <yallax> anyone able to help me get a d-link DWL-510 (1186:3300) to work?
[03:18] <shiester_miester> dissection, but now we have an idea where to look for the problem
[03:18] <shiester_miester> dissection, the problem is either caused by gnome or one of the apps you are running in gnome
[03:18] <ubunt1> can someone tell me how i can interlink two copmuters
[03:18] <Justi1> astro76: what does the ./ do?
[03:18] <shiester_miester> ubunt1, with a crossover cable
[03:18] <mattycoze1> that's awesome :p are you still in that RPG club?
[03:18] <shiester_miester> mattycoze1, yep
[03:19] <RickH> ubunt1:  I'm told one of them needs a network file sharing system (NFS).
[03:19] <astro76> Justi1, you need to specify a path to run executables which aren't in your $PATH, ./ means current directory
[03:19] <Fuzzyghost> ./ Means current directory
[03:19] <dissection> shiester_miester: Ah okay, so does it make sense to reinstall GNOME?
[03:19] <RickH> ubunt1:  I haven't tried to do it yet, but that was what someone told me previously.
[03:19] <mattycoze1> yeah, you dan then right?
[03:19] <Fuzzyghost> At least, in terminal.
[03:19] <astro76> Justi1, it's a safety feature
[03:19] <shiester_miester> dissection, maybe, but not if you can fix it
[03:19] <shiester_miester> dissection, the problem might be caused by something other than gnome
[03:19] <retour> madman91: what video card do you have? My another trouble is ordering Nvidia 8600GT only be be informed by people here that I need lates 100 something driver which is unavailable for Ubuntu yet?
[03:19] <shiester_miester> mattycoze1, so what are you doing in here?
[03:19] <Justi1> astro76: if I type the full directory, do I need the dot?
[03:19] <madman91> retour: i have an older.. 7400 or 7600 .. i forget
[03:20] <astro76> Justi1, no you can specify full path starting at /, i.e. sudo /home/user/file.bin
[03:20] <retour> madman91: so you are lucky! Thank you for help
[03:20] <dissection> shiester_miester: I see, okay. So how do I find the problem?
[03:20] <madman91> retour: no problem
[03:20] <mattycoze1> not much - just trying to get a few things to install ect - but i like to help sometimes too
[03:21] <shiester_miester> dissection, check out what apps are running and see if any of them are causing the problem :P
[03:21] <astro76> Justi1, and it needs executable permissions set
[03:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Fuzzyghost: Dis you make a new cd?
[03:21] <Jack_Sparrow> did
[03:21] <shiester_miester> dissection, for example if you are running gdesklets, avant-window-navigato
[03:21] <Justi1> astro76: how do I set executable permissions?
[03:22] <dissection> shiester_miester: No, neither of them
[03:22] <astro76> Justi1, chmod +x
[03:22] <shiester_miester> dissection, try it without starting any applications except for gnome and just leave it for a while
[03:22] <Fuzzyghost> I can try now.
[03:22] <shiester_miester> dissection, including things that you may have set to automatically start, for example gaim automatically starts on my computer
[03:22] <dissection> shiester_miester: Okay
[03:23] <havanger_> ok, so i have my wireless card recognized, and i connected to my wireless without wep, now how do i connect to it with wep?
[03:23] <shiester_miester> dissection, unfortunately i can't really help you much, you will have to use your own debugging and problem-solving skills :P
[03:23] <fevel> how do I install the nvidia graphics driver for geforce go 6150
[03:23] <dissection> shiester_miester: I don't have any. I'm a newbie ;[
[03:23] <fevel> ??
[03:23] <Fuzzyghost> Okay, it's writing.
[03:23] <shiester_miester> dissection, if it turns out that the problem is still occurring when gnome is running all by itself, then your problem is probably more serious
[03:23] <shiester_miester> dissection, do you have any graphics drivers installed
[03:23] <RickH> fevel:  Try the edgy?? tool.  Search for "Ubuntu Nvidia" and it will point you to the link.
[03:23] <shiester_miester> dissection, they might be causing the problem
[03:24] <shiester_miester> RickH, i think you mean "envy"
[03:24] <dissection> shiester_miester: No, I don't have a graphics card. Just the inbuilt one on the motherboard.
[03:24] <RickH> fevel:  someone wrote a utility which should automatically install Nvidia drivers correctly.  yeah, Envy.
[03:24] <naes> where can i go to learn how to use japanese and arabic in open office on an english install?
[03:24] <shiester_miester> edgy is the last version of ubuntu :P
[03:24] <RickH> You know... :)
[03:24] <shiester_miester> naes, first you have to learn japanese
[03:24] <Justi1> astro76: so do I enter "sudo chmod +x /file.bin", or the same thing on two different lines?
[03:24] <RickH> I thought Feisty Fawn was?
[03:24] <shiester_miester> RickH, feisty fawn is the current version
[03:24] <shiester_miester> edgy eft was the last one
[03:25] <shiester_miester> well, the current supported one
[03:25] <RickH> oh.
[03:25] <fevel> RickH: so did I
[03:25] <astro76> Justi1, don't need sudo for the chmod since you own the file
[03:25] <havanger_> need help on connecting to my wep wireless network
[03:25] <RickH> I see what you mean.
[03:25] <fevel> oh I see
[03:25] <shiester_miester> theres gutsy gibbon, of course, but thats not really supported yet
[03:25] <astro76> Justi1, first chmod +x /home/user/file.bin
[03:25] <shiester_miester> and hoary [whatever it is] 
[03:25] <astro76> Justi1, then run it
[03:25] <shiester_miester> wait a sec..does hoary even exist yet?
[03:25] <RickH> what does "pbuilder create" do?
[03:25] <shiester_miester> RickH, man pbuilder
[03:25] <Simplechat> what sort of command would i be looking at for a window lock
[03:25] <Simplechat> ?
[03:25] <RickH> One of the tutorials says to run it, and it's taking a long time and doing a lot of stuff.
[03:25] <Simplechat> (similar to gnomes normal lock window)
[03:26] <shiester_miester> Simplechat, do you mean a "dock"?
[03:26] <Justi1> astro76: it keeps telling me there is no such file; I entered "chmod +x /home/justin/desktop/googleearthlinux.bin"
[03:26] <shiester_miester> a dock is very different from a lock :P
[03:26] <Simplechat> no, lock.
[03:26] <shiester_miester> err ok
[03:26] <Simplechat> like lock screen after screensavers activated
[03:26] <shiester_miester> oh you mean to lock the computer
[03:26] <RickH> From "man pbuilder":  create Creates a base.tgz for the specified distribution.  Big help. heheeh :)
[03:26] <LucianIndy> is it possible to setup two linux user accounts. one runs the kde desktop environment with only the kde apps available on that machine (in the menu's anyway) and have gnome as the desktop environment on another account with only the gnome apps?
[03:26] <astro76> Justi1, it's case sensitive and I know it's GoogleEarthLinux.bin
[03:26] <Simplechat> yes :)
[03:26] <Justi1> astro76: ah okay
[03:26] <astro76> Justi1, I think it's Desktop too... use tab completion when you're typing
[03:26] <Simplechat> i'm just wondering which command it is
[03:26] <phpwner> how do i defragment ntfs partitions with ubuntu?
[03:27] <shiester_miester> LucianIndy, yes it is, but it won't be very easy
[03:27] <Simplechat> from there i should be able to map it to a keypress
[03:27] <shiester_miester> phpwner, i would seriously avoid doing that
[03:27] <Justi1> astro76: what is tab completion?
[03:27] <quaal> how do you delete a locked file that you sent to trash
[03:27] <fevel> will automatix install the drivers??
[03:27] <biotrox> why does my screen resolution sometimes has the resolution of 1280 x 1024 and sometimes it has the resolution 1024 x 768 ??
[03:27] <IndyGunFreak> !automatix | fevel
[03:27] <ubotu> fevel: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[03:27] <phpwner> shiester_miester i guess it's gg4me
[03:27] <shiester_miester> phpwner, nobody will cry for you if it screws up your ntfs partition
[03:27] <astro76> Justi1, if you type the first letter or letters of a directory or filename and press tab, it will automatically complete
[03:28] <phpwner> so much for switching to linux
[03:28] <shiester_miester> phpwner, the ntfs drivers have no guarantees that they work :P they are provided "as is" in warranty terminology.  that means if they screw up, too bad
[03:28] <phpwner> sticking to windows
[03:28] <shiester_miester> phpwner, dont be ridiculous
[03:28] <Justi1> astro76: cool
[03:28] <IndyGunFreak> phpwner: whats themalfunction?
[03:28] <astro76> Justi1, if there's more than one option it will show you the options
[03:28] <Zxcs> is there any app that can run msn (kinda like gaim) but from the terminal?
[03:28] <phpwner> i can't defragment my existing ntfs
[03:28] <shiester_miester> linux CAN do it, theres just no guarantees that proprietary formats like NTFS are flawlessly supported
[03:28] <RickH> phpwner:  Switch to another file system.
[03:28] <IndyGunFreak> phpwner: well duh
[03:28] <cotyrothery> ok now i just bought a router and i have my computer and my freinds computer next to each other and we want them to interlink
[03:28] <phpwner> no. i'm boycotting linux
[03:28] <shiester_miester> phpwner, you can do it if you want, i never said it was impossible
[03:28] <astro76> Justi1, tab completion works for all sorts of stuff, commands, options to commands, package names
[03:29] <IndyGunFreak> lol, boycotting linux?.lol
[03:29] <Justi1> astro76: that's awesome
[03:29] <shiester_miester> lol ok then
[03:29] <dissection> lol
[03:29] <shiester_miester> i guess he was just a troll
[03:29] <RickH> phpwner:  Why are you using NTFS?
[03:29] <IndyGunFreak> shiester_miester: pleasant fellow, wasn't he?..lol
[03:29] <RickH> oh...
[03:29] <shiester_miester> RickH, hes not around anymore
[03:29] <RickH> didn't see him leave.
[03:29] <RickH> yeah
[03:29] <shiester_miester> nah he was just a troll, i dont think he was even being serious
[03:30] <younghacker> whats the command to move a file from the desktop to my www directory in apache?
[03:30] <IndyGunFreak> shiester_miester: i doubt he evcen had ubuntu installed.
[03:30] <dissection> :}
[03:30] <LucianIndy> what an ignorant person
[03:30] <shiester_miester> like the people that come in here and go off about how we all force them into loving linux and they have no freedom of speech in this channel, then get pissed off when we tell them its a support channel, but they dont leave, they just sit around and whine until an OP kicks them
[03:30] <mattycoze1> haha troll
[03:30] <astro76> younghacker, mv ~/Desktop/file /var/www/
[03:30] <Justi1> astro76: the installer says that it doesn't have write permissions to the /opt directory. do I have to start the installer with sudo?
[03:31] <younghacker> thanks
[03:31] <astro76> Justi1, yes
[03:31] <IndyGunFreak> LucianIndy: well, you know, ignorance is bliss, so he doesn't even know he's stupid.
[03:31] <Fuzzyghost> Hahah, that did it.
[03:31] <shiester_miester> last time i checked, IRC != USA...their precious amendments dont apply in there :P this is more like a communist country
[03:31] <LucianIndy> no doubt
[03:31] <shiester_miester> funny how americans think that the whole world is "a free country"
[03:31] <shiester_miester> no...its not
[03:31] <Fuzzyghost> I guessing I must have missed a "non-bootable option" in K3b, so now it's working on the amd.
[03:32] <cotyrothery> Can anyone tell me how i can get my freinds computer and mine to interlink
[03:32] <Fuzzyghost> I didn't think that.
[03:32] <shiester_miester> LucianIndy, i cant reply to your pm cos i dont have a registered nick
[03:32] <IndyGunFreak> shiester_miester: most americans know better
[03:32] <shiester_miester> RickH, nope
[03:32] <RickH> Allodial title!  We don't have it anymore... :)
[03:32] <shiester_miester> IndyGunFreak, maybe
[03:32] <veenenen> So, I'm trying to work off of a samba share in nvu.  Which means I need to mount a samba share into a directory in the file system.  Now, how do I do that?
[03:32] <Fuzzyghost> I agree with you there RickH.
[03:32] <astro76> cotyrothery, ethernet?
[03:32] <IndyGunFreak> shiester_miester: well, only ones tht believe the world is some peaceful utopia, is stupid american liberals
[03:32] <LucianIndy> msg nickserv shiester_miester password?
[03:32] <shiester_miester> watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCkYfYa8ePI
[03:32] <cotyrothery> astro76: yew
[03:33] <cotyrothery> yes
[03:33] <shiester_miester> aussie show called "the chasers war on everything" - they parody pretty much everything
[03:33] <cotyrothery> astro76: i just bought a router as well
[03:33] <fevel> can someone show me the path to getting my nv drivers installed?? ;}
[03:33] <astro76> cotyrothery, so they're both connected to the router?
[03:33] <shiester_miester> LucianIndy, i know how to do it, i just couldn't be bothered to
[03:33] <cotyrothery> astro76: yes
[03:33] <doctorow> I just installed Beryl on my Feisty Kubuntu machine (with Synaptic) and now my X-server won't start! Help!
[03:33] <astro76> cotyrothery, what do you want to do, share files?
[03:34] <Simplechat> hmmm, this is wierd
[03:34] <Fuzzyghost> Later all.
[03:34] <cotyrothery> astro76: yes
[03:34] <IndyGunFreak> shiester_miester: well, they found the most foolish people on the planet to answer the questions.
[03:34] <mattycoze1> shiester_miester man i love CWOE
[03:34] <IndyGunFreak> shiester_miester: there's not one of those I didn't know, except uK currency
[03:34] <astro76> cotyrothery, you can set up file sharing pretty easy from System -> Administration -> Shared Folders
[03:34] <shiester_miester> IndyGunFreak, of course, its not meant to be a conclusive scientific proof :P its just satire
[03:34] <astro76> cotyrothery, use nfs if you're all unix or samba if you have any windows
[03:34] <shiester_miester> but its still funny as hell
[03:34] <IndyGunFreak> shiester_miester: yeah..
[03:34] <veenenen> So, I'm trying to work off of a samba share in nvu.  Which means I need to mount a samba share into a directory in the file system.  Now, how do I do that?
[03:34] <mattycoze1> haha, they take the piss out of americans so bad
[03:34] <shiester_miester> yeah
[03:34] <alzeih> doctorow: can you boot into recovery mode and restore your old xorg.conf?
[03:35] <shiester_miester> they take the piss out of EVERYTHING
[03:35] <shiester_miester> hence, their title, "chasers war on EVERYTHING"
[03:35] <Simplechat> :)
[03:35] <shiester_miester> most of the things they do are fake and set up anyway, but that doesnt make it any less hilarious
[03:35] <mattycoze1> oh i love the one where they were seeing if we learned from history, in particular the story of helen of troy lol
[03:35] <doctorow> olzeih -- how do I do that?
[03:35] <ponicg> What is the difference between a .ko and a .o file?
[03:35] <shiester_miester> ponicg, a k
[03:35] <cotyrothery> astro76: thanks
[03:35] <mattycoze1> and the parked a wooden horse out side the turkish consolate
[03:35] <RickH> Finally got Brasero to build.  I'm off to bed! :)
[03:35] <ponicg> shiester_miester, gee thanks.
[03:36] <shiester_miester> mattycoze1, yeah, that was hilarious
[03:36] <astro76> cotyrothery, another nice thing to do is install openssh-server on each machine, so you can log remotely
[03:36] <shiester_miester> ponicg, www.filext.com
[03:36] <mattycoze1> "ENTRY DENIED"
[03:36] <alzeih> doctorow ok, are you on irc on a diff computer to the one ubuntu is on?
[03:36] <astro76> cotyrothery, *log in remotely
[03:36] <doctorow> olzeih Yes
[03:37] <doctorow> olzeih I have my broken machine booted up and at a root prompt
[03:37] <younghacker> ok how do i rename a file from the command line?
[03:37] <IndyGunFreak> indonesia and brazi, next middle eastern country to invade?.. where do they find these frickin idiots?
[03:37] <astro76> younghacker, mv oldname newname
[03:37] <shiester_miester> younghacker, "rename" maybe?
[03:37] <shiester_miester> did you even LOOK
[03:37] <younghacker> cool thanks
[03:37] <shiester_miester> jeez man
[03:38] <shiester_miester> at least TRY before asking a question...
[03:38] <alzeih> doctorow: cd /etc/X11/
[03:38] <veenenen> bummer, I seem to have the no fun question.
[03:38] <alzeih> see if there is an xorg.conf~ file in there
[03:38] <shiester_miester> lmao, one of those americans think that mississippi is in the axis of evil
[03:39] <shiester_miester> mosque = an animal
[03:39] <doctorow> alzeih No, but there's a file xorg.conf.20070710180251 which looks like a backup
[03:39] <shiester_miester> how many world wars have their been? "3"
[03:39] <IndyGunFreak> shiester_miester: lol, just heard that one.
[03:39] <Nutubuntu> For whatever reason, Firefox keeps crashing ... and zombie netstat 'ing ... what's a good browser that isn't FF and (if possible) that Greasemonkey will work with?
[03:39] <Zxcs> anyone here use irssi and know how to type in a different window?
[03:39] <cotyrothery> astro76: when adding a shared folder what do i do
[03:40] <IndyGunFreak> shiester_miester: how come people who are even halfway informed never get in front of a camera, they find every idiotin a 10mi radius
[03:40] <mattycoze1> hay shiester_miester you a part of GC Linux Users Group?
[03:40] <shiester_miester> IndyGunFreak, they probably did hundreds of interviews and then just picked the stupidest ones
[03:40] <veenenen> maybe I should personalize the question.  So, your a lovely nvu installation, and you want to talk to you lovely friend samba share.  Now, what command would Mr. Bash have to type in to mount samba share to make it so to its friend nvu.
[03:40] <alzeih> doctorow oo good :) ok rename your current xorg.conf as something else
[03:40] <veenenen> nvu's lonely :(
[03:40] <IndyGunFreak> shiester_miester: probably,
[03:40] <doctorow> alzeih Should I move xorg.conf to xorg.conf.bak, then rename the backup as xorg.conf?
[03:40] <shiester_miester> mattycoze1, not officially...i guess i am because im a linux user on the GC :P
[03:40] <alzeih> doctorow yep good place to start
[03:40] <doctorow> alzeih Then "startx"?
[03:41] <mattycoze1> lol kk
[03:41] <shiester_miester> mattycoze1, i didnt know there was one :/
[03:41] <younghacker> where do i have to put my .html page in the www directory to see it on my loopback in the browser?, i have apache2
[03:41] <shiester_miester> lol "if president bush says it, i believe it"
[03:41] <mattycoze1> shiester miester: check it, http://goldcoastlinux.com
[03:41] <Nutubuntu> shiester_miester,  we should probably take this to -offtopic, but ... what particular idiotic comment on TV were you talking about?
[03:41] <Nutubuntu> Oh.
[03:41] <astro76> cotyrothery, you just add shared folders through the control panel
[03:41] <ponicg> So, how can I install vmware-server on edgy with the 2.6.17-10 kernel?
[03:41] <kitche> younghacker: html or htdocs
[03:41] <alzeih> doctorow sounds good. you may need to restart x insteaD OF JUST STARTING IT
[03:41] <shiester_miester> Nutubuntu, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCkYfYa8ePI
[03:41] <kitche> younghacker: forgot which one ubuntu uses
[03:41] <alzeih> oops
[03:41] <younghacker> let me search
[03:42] <Crosswing> Good night.
[03:42] <veenenen> younnghacker, just put it in the www directory
[03:42] <shiester_miester> mattycoze1, thanks :D
[03:42] <veenenen> that's all you need to do
[03:42] <alzeih> doctorow: any luck?
[03:42] <Nutubuntu> Odds are about 50:50 that'll crash Firefox ...
[03:42] <Nutubuntu> Sorry Indy ... I have a weird script installed ... just turned it off.
[03:42] <sayers> Does AMD64 work well with Ubuntu?
[03:42] <astro76> cotyrothery, you'll have to add the allowed hosts too
[03:43] <mneptok> alzeih: thanks for the help. i got it. :)
[03:43] <doctorow> alzeih I'm about to try restartx -- startx didn't give me what I was lookiing for (I got a random Gnome startup instead of KDE_
[03:43] <Nutubuntu> sayers,  yes :)
[03:43] <younghacker> /var/www/apache2-default this is the end of the string and there are nothing but the default pictures in here and the index .html file
[03:43] <rolfen> I downloaded google earth.. in what folder should i install it? it's asking me....
[03:43] <Flannel> !earth | rolfen
[03:43] <ubotu> rolfen: Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html - A package for Ubuntu is available in the !Medibuntu repository
[03:43] <shiester_miester> sayers, yes, it works fine with ubuntu, but some 3rd party apps may have problems
[03:43] <younghacker> I have the file in here now but i can' t see it
[03:43] <alzeih> doctorow, cool, np. you may need to tweak the xorg.conf file to use the drivers and get the right res, but at least you can do it with a gui :)
[03:43] <shiester_miester> younghacker, what are you trying to do?
[03:44] <astro76> rolfen, I'd recommend the default of /opt and /usr/local/bin for the shortcut
[03:44] <Justi1> How do i run a shell script from terminal?
[03:44] <shiester_miester> Justi1, ./scrit_name
[03:44] <shiester_miester> *script
[03:44] <doctorow> alzeih You're a lifesaver thanks!
[03:44] <younghacker> use one of my web pages for the default page in apache
[03:44] <shiester_miester> doctorow, backup that xorg.conf before you do anything!
[03:44] <astro76> Justi1, same thing as the bin
[03:44] <sayers> shiester_miester, what kinda 3rd party apps and will java work?
[03:44] <alzeih> doctorow, i had similar issues with nvidia and beryl.
[03:44] <cotyrothery> Can someone tell me how to add a new share folder
[03:44] <shiester_miester> younghacker, call it index.htm
[03:44] <Flannel> younghacker: You need to make sure it's readable by www-data
[03:44] <rolfen> !Medibuntu
[03:44] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[03:44] <younghacker> so when i go to 127.0.0.1 i see my page in default folder
[03:44] <doctorow> Alzeih -- thanks a  billion!
[03:44] <rolfen> damn... I downloaded the bin... anyways...
[03:44] <shiester_miester> sayers, you have to do a bit of a hack to get flash working in firefox, for example
[03:44] <younghacker> how do i do that
[03:44] <rolfen> astro76: thanks
[03:44] <Flannel> younghacker: /var/www/index.[extension]  is default
[03:45] <shiester_miester> i have no idea about java
[03:45] <sayers> shiester_miester, oh ;(
[03:45] <shiester_miester> younghacker, just name it that
[03:45] <shiester_miester> sayers, it does work, usually
[03:45] <kitche> Flannel: ah so ubuntu just uses /var/www :)
[03:45] <shiester_miester> sayers, but its not "supported"
[03:45] <younghacker> name it index.html
[03:45] <sayers> shiester_miester,  but it will work yes? Since I'm on Intel ubuntu atm, switching to AMD
[03:45] <rolfen> Flannel: thanks
[03:45] <shiester_miester> kitche, that would be the webserver, not ubuntu
[03:45] <shiester_miester> sayers, it might, it might not
[03:45] <younghacker> is that what your telling me to do?
[03:45] <sayers> shiester_miester, Will it be supported soon?
[03:45] <John`> is there a way to list folder and files in terminal to show it vertically so you can just copy them?
[03:45] <Nutubuntu> sayers,  supposedly it's not too hard to get going ... the one thing I've heard about the 64bit version that I really don't like is that it doesn't support huge filesystems (which the 32bit kernel does)
[03:45] <kitche> shiester_miester: no it's ubuntu since other distros use /var/www/htdocs or /var/www/html
[03:45] <shiester_miester> sayers, until 64bit architecture becomes more popular, a lot of things are still made for 32bit
[03:46] <John`> i want to copy the files in vertically view
[03:46] <shiester_miester> kitche, oh ok
[03:46] <cotyrothery> ok i need someone to tell me how to add a new share folder please
[03:46] <younghacker> ummm im going to rename the file index.html then
[03:46] <shiester_miester> sayers, i would recommend you use 32bit for now, 64bit will come in useful later
[03:46] <sayers> shiester_miester, it's already in the mail... :D
[03:46] <younghacker> and that should make it work?
[03:46] <shiester_miester> younghacker, index.blah. the file extension can be whatever you want, for example on my website its .php
[03:46] <IR7556> Hola todos son usuarios de ubuntu
[03:46] <astro76> cotyrothery, do you have a specific question? there's a help button in the control panel
[03:46] <IR7556> alguien habla espaol?
[03:46] <Nutubuntu> !sp
[03:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:47] <shiester_miester> younghacker, .htm or .html would both work
[03:47] <Justi1> astro76: I am trying to run the gearth uninstall script, but it says "Could not find a usable uninstall program. Aborting."
[03:47] <Nutubuntu> !es
[03:47] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:47] <younghacker> ok i get it
[03:47] <calpe> hola
[03:47] <Flannel> sayers: AMD64 and Intel 64 have the same support.  64bit works (flawlessly), for everything not proprietary (anything we can recompile to 64bit), and even some proprietary things work out of the box.  Things like flash, however, need some extra work to get them to work on 64bit
[03:47] <calpe> quien habla espaol
[03:47] <shiester_miester> it has to be in the root folder too
[03:47] <Flannel> !es | calpe
[03:47] <ubotu> calpe: please see above
[03:47] <cotyrothery> astro76: i just want to be able to read and write from his hard drive
[03:47] <Jordan_U> !es | calpe
[03:47] <ubotu> calpe: please see above
[03:47] <calpe> que es eso?
[03:47] <shiester_miester> hey does anyone know how to get .NET working in ubuntu?
[03:47] <Jordan_U> !es > calpe
[03:47] <calpe> soy deperu
[03:47] <kitche> younghacker: if it's not index.htm/.html you have to put in the name/path when you go to localhost like http://localhost/pics/file.html
[03:47] <astro76> Justi1, the thing is uninstalling it and installing it is going to change nothing
[03:47] <Flannel> kitche: /var/www is the document root by default, yes.
[03:47] <astro76> Justi1, google turned up nothing?
[03:48] <calpe> [Jordan_U]  speek english?
[03:48] <sayers> Flannel, I'm used to extra work, this motherboard has ACPI problems and problems far more than little flash things
[03:48] <fevel> is there a guide like the unoficial starter guide that isnt unoficial??
[03:48] <John`> is there a way to list files in ubuntu in terminal so that it only list the files and not any other info?
[03:48] <rolfen> shiester_miester: I remember there is a way... but my memory is blurry
[03:48] <younghacker> hmm ok
[03:48] <younghacker> i see
[03:48] <astro76> cotyrothery, you can right click on a folder and select share
[03:48] <alzeih> shester_miester: never used it myself, but look up stuff on mono
[03:48] <fevel> that the forum supports?
[03:48] <Jordan_U> calpe, This channel is for English
[03:48] <Jordan_U> calpe, Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:48] <rsteele> hello
[03:48] <dtrump> yo
[03:48] <astro76> cotyrothery, in the file manager
[03:48] <fevel> and you guys
[03:48] <John`> anyone know
[03:48] <John`> ?
[03:48] <shiester_miester> rolfen, getting visual web developer to work would be a triumph of epic proportions, because i cant even get it working in windows :P
[03:48] <kitche> Flannel: ok I'll remember that for ubuntu :) sicne I know slackware and centos(VPS)
[03:48] <Flannel> sayers: Well, the flash thing isn't *that* much extra, it's just not apt-get and go.
[03:48] <calpe> [dtrump]  tu hablas espaol?
[03:48] <cotyrothery> astro76: im add the add new share folder
[03:48] <cotyrothery> at*
[03:49] <Flannel> calpe: /join #ubuntu-es
[03:49] <sayers> Flannel, I doubt its a big deal. I have to go through hours of work to get a fan to work half well. And I don't even get ACPI
[03:49] <shiester_miester> wow, he actually listened that time
[03:49] <Jordan_U> Flannel, Is there a way for the ops to easily foreword someone to the correct channel?
[03:49] <ant-> John`, ls -w 1
[03:49] <younghacker> hmm it's still not there
[03:50] <John`> thank you
[03:50] <david120> I'm looking for a new laptop my toshiba is overheating what do you all think I should buy for AIGLX
[03:50] <astro76> cotyrothery, what part are you confused about?
[03:50] <dtrump> I'll think about it
[03:50] <Jordan_U> david120, dell.com/ubuntu
[03:50] <shiester_miester> whoa, dell has support for ubuntu? thats cool
[03:50] <Nutubuntu> Jordan_U, I'm not an op, but what I recall is, you can force a person to leave, and you can keep them from coming in, but you can't join them somehow to another chan
[03:50] <astro76> cotyrothery, for the allowed hosts you can just add the ip address of the other computer
[03:50] <cotyrothery> I need to know what settings to do
[03:51] <kitche> shiester_miester: dell sells ubuntu laptops lol
[03:51] <cotyrothery> astro76: i did
[03:51] <ponicg> david120, Thinkpad t61p
[03:51] <cotyrothery> but i dont see his disk on my computer
[03:51] <mattycoze1> shiester_miester yeah they're expanding their production line too
[03:51] <Jordan_U> Nutubuntu, Now that I think of it though they already foreword people to #ubuntu-read-topic for DCC exploits
[03:51] <shiester_miester> ah ok
[03:51] <younghacker> ok any suggestions i named it that and i still don't see the page when i refresh the page
[03:52] <shiester_miester> Jordan_U, yes, if you try to join this channel from http://ircatwork.com it sends you elsewhere
[03:52] <BrendanM> hey, so I'm trying to format a new drive with gparted
[03:52] <shiester_miester> also if you join #opencompositing it sends you to #compiz-fusion or something
[03:52] <kitche> Jordan_U: yeah because they ban them to that channel :)_
[03:52] <BrendanM> but for some reason FAT32 is greyed-out as file system choice
[03:52] <ant-> Jordan_U, Nutubuntu, there is a "redirect ban", when people try to enter the ops channel they get sent to another
[03:52] <shiester_miester> BrendanM, why would u want to use a fat32 partition
[03:52] <Nutubuntu> Very cool, ant- I never knew that : )
[03:52] <John`> is there a way to unrar a rar file only a specific folder in this rar file without unraring any other folders using terminal?
[03:52] <imbecile> how do i delete a file from my trash that doesnt want to delete?  i have an old kiba-dock directory  in the trash that i have since uninstalled yet it is still stuck in trash
[03:52] <Nutubuntu> For whatever reason, Firefox keeps crashing ... and zombie netstat 'ing ... what's a good browser that isn't FF and (if possible) that Greasemonkey will work with?
[03:53] <Flannel> !flash64 | sayers
[03:53] <ubotu> sayers: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[03:53] <BrendanM> I need to share the drive with Windows and OSX
[03:53] <shiester_miester> John`, yes
[03:53] <John`> what is the command for it?
[03:53] <veenenen> So, I'm trying to work off of a samba share in nvu.  Which means I need to mount a samba share into a directory in the file system.  Now, how do I do that?
[03:53] <shiester_miester> imbecile, i had the exact same directory stuck
[03:53] <ant-> Nutubuntu, one time i got banned from here for talking about guns, they redirected me to #guns for three days
[03:53] <shiester_miester> imbecile, you have to change the permissions on it
[03:53] <sayers> Thanks Flannel
[03:53] <astro76> cotyrothery, are you using samba or nfs?
[03:53] <BrendanM> The only file system choices available are ext2, ext2 and linux-swap. Are there extra libraries I need to install or something?
[03:53] <MeeKs_> i just installed ubuntu 7 on my macbook but its not seeing the airport card, any idea on what i can do?
[03:53] <shiester_miester> imbecile, cd /home/usrname/.trash;  chmod 777 filename; rm filename
[03:54] <cotyrothery> astro76: im using nfs
[03:54] <shiester_miester> at least i think that works
[03:54] <Jordan_U> BrendanM, The partition needs to be created by OSx for OSx to read it ( because they use a non standard disk label and an incomplete mount command ) It is very annoying IMO
[03:54] <John`> shiester_miester: how do you do it?
[03:54] <shiester_miester> John`, no idea
[03:54] <BrendanM> ok, well I don't care about OSX that much
[03:54] <BrendanM> mostly windows / linux
[03:54] <John`> ok
[03:54] <shiester_miester> imbecile, if the commands i gave are wrong, the steps are: 1) navigate to trash folder, 2) set recursive permissions so u can delete it 3) delete it
[03:54] <Jordan_U> BrendanM, Install the ext2 plugin for windows
[03:55] <shiester_miester> John`, its definitely possible, i just dont know how to do it
[03:55] <Jordan_U> BrendanM, It can also read and write to ext3
[03:55] <ant-> John`, you gotta start reading the manuals for these tools, type "man tar"
[03:55] <shiester_miester> John`, maybe read the manuals on the commands to extract the files
[03:55] <imbecile> shiester_miester, thanks ill give it a go.. i cant change the permissions by listing the properties?
[03:55] <Jordan_U> BrendanM, I suggest making a separate ext3 /home
[03:55] <shiester_miester> imbecile, i dunno
[03:55] <John`> sometimes its difficult to understand
[03:55] <John`> haha
[03:55] <shiester_miester> you can try
[03:55] <John`> i tried
[03:55] <BrendanM> Jordan, really? How good is it? I heard it was really slow/tended to corrupt the file system
[03:56] <ant-> John`, like 'man ls', i just looked real quick at all the options and saw -w controls how many columns and tried it
[03:56] <BrendanM> I'm perfectly willing to use FAT32 even though it sucks. I'll just schedule it to defrag every night or something
[03:57] <Jordan_U> BrendanM, My friend has been using it for over a year with no problems
[03:57] <BrendanM> also, /home is already on a separate drive
[03:57] <astro76> cotyrothery, hmm not sure I haven't used nfs in ubuntu yet
[03:57] <John`> ant-: i know what you saying, but sometimes it takes a while for me to get to that "w" and not to mention sometimes i wouldn't know what to put after that w for example
[03:57] <shiester_miester> BrendanM, you can't use ext3 :/ thats weird
[03:57] <BrendanM> this is just going to be a data drive. The OS is on an ext3 drive
[03:57] <jmw> anyone know of any nagios package repositories for ubuntu?
[03:57] <Jordan_U> BrendanM, http://www.fs-driver.org/
[03:57] <cotyrothery> what should i use then astro76
[03:57] <Oni-Dracula|lapp> what does an asterisk mean next to a file name in ls?
[03:58] <shiester_miester> BrendanM, so use ext2 or something :/ probably still better than ntfs, lol
[03:58] <younghacker> can someone help me put my web pages in Apache so i can browse to them from the index page?
[03:58] <shiester_miester> Oni-Dracula|lapp, man ls
[03:58] <Jordan_U> BrendanM, There are a lot of benefits to having a separate /home
[03:58] <shiester_miester> younghacker, have you put a link to it in the index page
[03:58] <Jordan_U> BrendanM, So if you are going to have a separate data partition you might as well mount it as /home
[03:58] <Jack_Sparrow> the wheel on my mouse keeps dying, I can get it working by sudo modprobe -r psmouse ;sudo modprobe psmouse suggestions as to why it keeps dying
[03:58] <younghacker> smh,,,, are you serious,, should i edit the link page with nano?
[03:59] <younghacker> <<---feels stupid for thinking that was automatically done
[03:59] <GMWeezel> what command could I use to play a WAV with the command line? aplay didn't work; soemthing about PCM encoding
[03:59] <rockets> The restricted drive manager used to recognize that I have an ATI card, and I could use it to install the fglrx driver. I recently removed the driver, and then used envy to reinstall it. I then removed the driver completely and removed envy completely, and now the Restricted Driver manager wont see that I have an ati card.
[03:59] <madman91> GMWeezel: mplayer ?
[03:59] <shiester_miester> younghacker, you are talking about setting up a website, then yes you need to know how to write html :P
[03:59] <ant-> rockets, i thought envy was for nvidia?
[03:59] <younghacker> ummm,,, i can definately make a link, i just never put one in apache
[03:59] <younghacker> thanks though
[03:59] <rockets> ant-, used to be. now its for both
[03:59] <shiester_miester> younghacker, what?
[04:00] <ant-> sweet
[04:00] <rolfen> hey how do i modify my start menu... say i want to add an entry in the "Other" submenu
[04:00] <GMWeezel> madman91: not installed by default
[04:00] <Jordan_U> ant-, Don't use it first
[04:00] <shiester_miester> younghacker, you dont have to put the link "in apache" :/
[04:00] <imbecile> shiester_miester,  cd /home/imbecile/.trash;  chmod 777 kiba-dock; rm kiba-dock ??
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> rockets: The problem is you cant just remove envy..
[04:00] <rockets> That aside, now I have no working fglrx whatsoever
[04:00] <ant-> Jordan_U, thats what she said...
[04:00] <younghacker> smh
[04:00] <Jordan_U> ant-, Try Restricted Manager first, then envy if that doesn't work
[04:00] <rockets> Jack_Sparrow, I did a COMPLETE removal
[04:00] <younghacker> i know i put in the index.html file
[04:00] <rockets> of envy and the drivers it installed
[04:00] <younghacker> correct
[04:00] <logreeval> Hi, I want to get a printer that prints/faxes/scans/ etc...the works, what is the best printer to go with ubuntu?
[04:00] <shiester_miester> imbecile, somethiing like that.  you need to set the chmod to change permissions recursively
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> rockets: How did you find everything the script did while it was on your system
[04:00] <shiester_miester> younghacker, well then the link in that file should point the browser to the other file
[04:00] <dissection> rolfen: type "sudo alacarte"
[04:01] <cotyrothery> what is the terminal command to show what my video card is
[04:01] <rockets> Jack_Sparrow, I didn't. but complete removal is supposed to remove all configuration
[04:01] <Jordan_U> !hardware | logreeval
[04:01] <jo3nix> lspci will
[04:01] <ubotu> logreeval: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[04:01] <madman91> GMWeezel: so install it
[04:01] <rockets> Jack_Sparrow, hmm.
[04:01] <madman91> GMWeezel: oh wait.. sorry you didnt want that
[04:01] <Jack_Sparrow> rockets: That is the problem with it\
[04:01] <Jack_Sparrow> rockets: One of the problems
[04:01] <madman91> GMWeezel: or did you?
[04:01] <jo3nix> cotyrothery, did you get that?
[04:01] <rockets> Jack_Sparrow, ah I see now that envy has a driver uninstall tool. I'll try that
[04:01] <shiester_miester> cotyrothery, the device manager should have it listed
[04:01] <rolfen> dissection: thanks
[04:01] <logreeval> Jordan_U:  thanks
[04:01] <rockets> rockets, thanks for the info
[04:02] <ant-> cotyrothery, try lspci
[04:02] <rockets> Jack_Sparrow, rather
[04:02] <GMWeezel> madman91: no; i need something that will work without a GUI and i was hoping to avoid installing any more packages since i only need it to play WAVs
[04:02] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[04:02] <jo3nix> lspci |grep VGA
[04:02] <cotyrothery> sant-: thanks
[04:02] <Justi1> astro76: how do I delete files from terminal again?
[04:02] <shiester_miester> Justi1, rm
[04:02] <bruenig> GMWeezel, mplayer
[04:02] <astro76> cotyrothery, on the other pc you have to do make a directory to mount a share, and then mount it.... i.e. mkdir ~/otherpc && sudo mount 192.168.1.2:/home/user/sharedfolder ~/otherpc
[04:02] <bruenig> Justi1, rm
[04:03] <cotyrothery> ok astro76 i'll give it a shot
[04:03] <Jordan_U> logreeval, np
[04:03] <Justi1> it says "rm: cannot remove directory `/usr/local/google-earth/': Is a directory"
[04:03] <astro76> cotyrothery, I wonder if samba isn't easier
[04:03] <astro76> Justi1, rm -rf
[04:03] <Justi1> ok
[04:03] <unagi> can anyone help me im having trouble with a text file i made executable in that /etc/init.d/gdm restart isnt completely restarting the x server......it just takes me out to the console....i have to manually start gdm again....any ideas?
[04:03] <Jordan_U> Justi1, Google earth comes with an uninstaller
[04:04] <Justi1> Jordan_you: it doesn't work
[04:04] <numus> is there such thing as a workgroup between ubuntu and windows?
[04:04] <shiester_miester> unagi, what?  gdm restart doesnt restart the x server anyway
[04:04] <jo3nix> unagi, problem with your script?
[04:04] <unagi> so then what command would i need to add to the script...../etc/X11/gdm start?
[04:04] <shiester_miester> numus, nope :P windows people don't like liaising with linux people and vice versa.  its like herding cats
[04:04] <Justi1> astro76: it says "Permission denied"
[04:04] <jo3nix> ya
[04:04] <Oni-Dracula|lapp> shiester_miester, i know you're busy but the manfiles don't describe such specifics as to why an asterisk is next to a file
[04:04] <astro76> Justi1, take a guess
[04:05] <bruenig> unagi, I would't be messing with init scripts unless you know what you are doing
[04:05] <Justi1> astro76: sudo?
[04:05] <finer> what is the best way to set up 2 ssh servers on a router?
[04:05] <numus> shiester_miester so no way of sharing movies between the two
[04:05] <astro76> Justi1, yes!
[04:05] <Jadder> mrblues se me dao el beryl
[04:05] <Justi1> astro76: yay I learned something
[04:05] <unagi> im not messing with an init script
[04:05] <numus> shiester_miester if i could get orb working in wine that would solve the problem.. but that isn't going so well
[04:05] <madman91> me too
[04:05] <unagi> im trying to make my own script....
[04:05] <madman91> unagi: the same one we talked about?
[04:05] <Xago> I need to repair my ubuntu...How shouLd I do?
[04:06] <unagi> yes....ive gotten it to work to a point
[04:06] <jo3nix> unagi, thats a good way to learn.. adding start to the end will work
[04:06] <unagi> ty ill try it
[04:06] <madman91> unagi: how so
[04:06] <madman91> ok
[04:06] <unagi> brb
[04:06] <madman91> Xago: whats broken?
[04:06] <shiester_miester> numus, yes there is definitely a way of sharing things between the two
[04:06] <rockets> Damn it restricted driver manager is still broken.
[04:06] <numus> shiester_miester care to enlighten me
[04:06] <cotyrothery> i put in lspci but i cant figure out what the gfx card is
[04:06] <madman91> Xago: if it cant boot.. then use the livecd.. and join this irc from there
[04:06] <shiester_miester> numus, file sharing?
[04:06] <numus> shiester_miester come again
[04:06] <cotyrothery> hjj
[04:07] <Xago> my keyboard conf is wrong ....when I type L I have to use the shift key to get it
[04:07] <Megatron> hello ubuntu people
[04:07] <Xago> I can't get to repair it
[04:07] <Jordan_U> rockets, Is it restricted manager that is broken or the drivers that it installs?
[04:08] <Megatron> i am a newbie to ubuntu and i need help, i want to share internet with an xp machine...
[04:08] <rockets> Jordan_U, Well restricted manager runs, it just no longer has the option to install fglrx for me
[04:08] <jo3nix> Megatron, you need to setup iptables with a nat rule. its easy
[04:08] <Megatron> jo3nix i am listening
[04:08] <RickH> Anyone know why Nvidia drivers are so hard to install in Ubuntu/Debian?
[04:09] <ponicg> How do I enable my user to access physical partitions(ie: use VMWare on a physical device or to use gparted, etc)
[04:09] <Fuzzyghost> I'm back
[04:09] <shiester_miester> numus, by "share movies", do you mean that the file of the movie should be accessible from both computers
[04:09] <madman91> RickH: they're not?
[04:09] <shiester_miester> wb Fuzzyghost
[04:09] <Megatron> Rickh try envy..
[04:09] <Megatron> jo3nix man?
[04:09] <madman91> RickH: unless your card is super fresh new
[04:09] <jo3nix> Megatron, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/IptablesFirewall
[04:09] <RickH> It's an 8800GTX. :)
[04:09] <banlieue> is there a way to make the "Search" button in Nautilus open the search files window (places > search for files) rather than triggering the obviously inferior search through address bar?
[04:09] <Fuzzyghost> Well, the computer would boot from the CD, but now it's having troubles installing.
[04:09] <Jordan_U> rockets, Did it before?
[04:09] <madman91> RickH: well then.. please retract my comment :)
[04:09] <shiester_miester> RickH, they arent really that hard
[04:09] <numus> shiester_miester yes.. over a network share
[04:09] <rockets> Jordan_U, yes!
[04:09] <jo3nix> Megatron, that will teach you alot.. its how i got it going
[04:10] <milllmannn> what does build-essential mean when i am using apt-get?
[04:10] <Jordan_U> rockets, What have you done since then?
[04:10] <RickH> It works in Ubuntu-default "nv" mode, but not in restricted driver mode.
[04:10] <shiester_miester> numus, share the folder and connect the computers with a crossover cable
[04:10] <RickH> It's scarcely better than VESA, methinkis.
[04:10] <RickH> methinks
[04:10] <logreeval> Jordan_U: is HP the best choice for an allinone printer, do you think?
[04:10] <Jordan_U> !build-essential | milllmannn
[04:10] <ubotu> milllmannn: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:10] <numus> shiester_miester that will work crossplatorm.. and i run on a wireless network
[04:10] <shiester_miester> numus, wireless is a pain to get working atm
[04:10] <Fuzzyghost> I told it to format and use the whole hard drive, and it gives me "The ext3 file system creation in partition #1 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) failed."
[04:10] <rockets> Jordan_U, Removed fglrx using the restricted manager, installed envy, installed fglrx using envy, removed the packages envy installed, removed envy, reinstalled envy, then used the envy driver removal tool that is built into envy
[04:10] <Jordan_U> logreeval, No idea, my hp psc750 all in one works with Ubuntu though
[04:10] <Taco`> How do I delete a local user including the home dir? Or do I have to use root to delete the home dir?
[04:10] <rockets> and rebooted
[04:10] <shiester_miester> numus, also crossplatform is supposed to work but i cant get it functioning :/
[04:10] <dissection> I have a question about writing to NTFS partitions.. It is generally not recommended, but is it a risk to only the paritition being written to, or could it be risky to all NTFS partitions on the hard disk? Because, I was thinking I could make a 5GB partition to which I'll enable read/write access.... And later I can move them to my other partitions, from windows. What do you guys think about that?
[04:11] <milllmannn> no, im not compiling from source, im just trying to get the perfect rails production server setup on ubuntu
[04:11] <numus> shiester_miester looks like i will be idling in xp tonight
[04:11] <shiester_miester> dissection, writing to NTFS partitions is ok usually
[04:11] <logreeval> Jordan_U: ok, thanks
[04:11] <shiester_miester> dissection, sounds like a plan
[04:11] <shiester_miester> dissection, at most i think it would only be a risk to the partition being written to if something screwed up
[04:11] <Jordan_U> dissection, NTFS write is perfectly stable, it wasn't for a long time but it now is
[04:11] <milllmannn> i havent found a good resource for creating a rails stack based on using the apt-get version of apache, they all require it to be compiled
[04:11] <unagi> still didnt work
[04:12] <milllmannn> which is ok with me, but it tends to screw with other stuff that I apt-get later
[04:12] <numus> is the sh command accessibly on ubuntu
[04:12] <Xago> I need to repair my ubuntu...How shouLd I do?
[04:12] <bruenig> unagi, paste your script to pastebin and explain what you are trying to do
[04:12] <nick_> is there a way to hide not mount hdd's that show up in the side bar of nautilas
[04:12] <bruenig> !paste | unagi
[04:12] <ubotu> unagi: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:12] <lite-X> hello to all the Great people here
[04:12] <lite-X> :)
[04:12] <dissection> shiester_miester: So even if there was a problem, it would only effect that 5GB partition, would it? Right now I've enabled read/write access to 1 GB hard disk from my REALLY OLD computer.. And have been moving them later to my bigger drives, from windows.. Cause I could risk the 1GB drive
[04:12] <Fuzzyghost> Hi lite-x
[04:13] <astro76> dissection, with ntfs-3g it's not risky
[04:13] <Jordan_U> rockets, You could grab the package with apt-synaptic and "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh" that is all that restricted manager does anyways
[04:13] <Flannel> milllmannn: How would it require a compiled version of apache?  Isn't it just an apache module?
[04:13] <draeath> Is there any glaring problems I should be aware of when using the *-low-latency kernels?
[04:13] <dissection> astro76: Okay, thats what I was using :)
[04:13] <Jordan_U> !ntfs-3g | dissection
[04:13] <ubotu> dissection: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[04:13] <milllmannn> Flannel: nope
[04:13] <Megatron> jo3nix this is a guide to set up a custom firewall!
[04:13] <astro76> dissection, only risky to enable write with the old driver, and then only to the partition you're writing.. but anyway
[04:13] <RickH> ntfs-3g works wonderfully.
[04:13] <rockets> Jordan_U, Yeah but thats almost besides the point! Its the principle of the thing! Also I don't know the correct monitor frequencies, etc
[04:13] <RickH> I've used it a lot on a 500 GB drive.  No problems in three days. :)
[04:13] <Megatron> jo3nix i need to know how to my internet connection with an xp machine..
[04:13] <milllmannn> Flannel: it requires special stuff
[04:14] <lite-X> ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386
[04:14] <lite-X> is this the cd to burn
[04:14] <Nutubuntu> banlieue,  it's not exactly what you were asking but - you might want to install nautilus-actions and see how close you can get to your desired search functionality
[04:14] <nick_> is there a way to make a volume hidden
[04:14] <ponicg> Jordan_U, Any ideas? how do i enable my user to have physical disk access?
[04:14] <astro76> lite-X, most likely
[04:14] <dissection> Okay, sounds great.. I have it installed already but haven't written to my bigger drives yet
[04:14] <unagi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29431/
[04:14] <Jordan_U> rockets, You don't need to know anything but the driver and the resolution you want
[04:14] <draeath> Anyone know of any problems with the amd64 low-latency kernel, compared to the amd64 generic?
[04:14] <banlieue> Nutubuntu: that sounds like a fun thing to play with whether it'll do that or not ;] 
[04:14] <rockets> Jordan_U, ok. I'll give it a shot, thanks.
[04:14] <Flannel> draeath: why are you looking for the low-latency kernel?
[04:14] <mro1> Megatron:  have you looked at the firestarter program?
[04:14] <unagi> im trying to create a script to exeecut that changes the xorg.conf file to a diffferent version temporarily and restart x server all in one
[04:14] <Xago> I need to repair my ubuntu...How shouLd I do?
[04:14] <Jordan_U> ponicg, To an internal partition? What file system?
[04:14] <systemd0wn> Question,  the last option is the graphical install allows me to change where the boot loader is placed, *under advanced* how do i know its set correctly.
[04:14] <Jordan_U> Xago, What is wrong with it?
[04:15] <ponicg> Jordan_U, I need my user to have access to the partitions with gparted, etc
[04:15] <Xago> my keyboard conf is wrong ....when I type L I have to use the shift key to get it
[04:15] <draeath> Flannel: I intend to do audio work with it
[04:15] <banlieue> uh oh, my update manager just crashed
[04:15] <banlieue> that can't be good, lol
[04:15] <Jordan_U> systemd0wn, The default is the master boot record, which should work fine unless you want to write to a partition for some reason
[04:15] <astro76> lite-X, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GettingUbuntu
[04:15] <bruenig> unagi, ok well first off, you want to take all the sudos out, and just launch the script with sudo whatever
[04:15] <dissection> Okay, I have another question. Recently I installed updates, which updated the kernel as well. So when I boot, it shows my Ubuntu four times (two kernels, and two recovery modes). Would it be a wise idea to remove the older one from the list?
[04:15] <lite-X> astro76 thanks loads
[04:15] <lite-X> :)
[04:16] <draeath> dissection: if the new one loads, go ahead and remove the old kernel with aptitude
[04:16] <RickH> dissection:  That's an excellent question.  Mine does the same thing.  I haven't touched them yet out of fear. :)
[04:16] <Flannel> draeath: Ah, sounds good.  You should be fine.  lowlatency is in universe though, but still gets security
[04:16] <unagi> i was launching the script from the desktop with the icon not the terminal
[04:16] <Jordan_U> ponicg, You need root privileges for physical access, use gksudo gparted
[04:16] <Zeld1> Will someone guide me through an install of fiesty, on a dual boot?
[04:16] <retour> Jordan_U: It was interesting what you wrote here. Does it mean that dpkg-reconfigure is same as xorgconfig in other distros? I'm new to Ubuntu
[04:16] <dissection> RickH: I had been scared of messing around with it too :P
[04:16] <Flannel> dissection: it's usually a good idea t okeep one old version (known good) to fall back on incase you find an issue later
[04:16] <bruenig> unagi, and how you were entering the password
[04:16] <ponicg> Jordan_U, It's for VMware... I don't wanna run vmware under sudo though.
[04:16] <systemd0wn> Jordan_U, well its not working properly... I have 1 IDE drive and 2 SATA drives, its a clean install no dual boot.  I want ubuntu to take the whole IDE drive but when it restarts, i get an error 21 from grub.
[04:16] <RickH> dissection:  I'm going to try it with aptitude
[04:17] <eboyjr> Anyone know what the best IRCd is? irc-hybrid, ircd-irc2, etc...
[04:17] <unagi> it prompts me for it
[04:17] <ponicg> Jordan_U, /dev/sda is in the disk group, how do i add my user to the disk group?
[04:17] <draeath> Flannel: heh, you don't keep a bootable disk with a fallback kernel?
[04:17] <Zeld1> anyone?
[04:17] <banlieue> Nutubuntu: the software doesn't support that, but it's a fun little application to have installed anyway ;)
[04:17] <dissection> RickH: I'll let you be the crash test dummy. Let me know if you faced any problems after doing it, and then I'll do the same :P
[04:17] <Flannel> draeath: I do.  But why when you can just keep a single old kernel in /boot?
[04:17] <RickH> dissection:  will do, we'll both know shortly. :)
[04:17] <astro76> Zeld1, do you have enough free space on your drive? do you have a single c: under windows?
[04:17] <zeld1> yes.
[04:17] <dissection> :D
[04:17] <Xago> PLease heLp,....my keyboard conf is wrong ....when I type L I have to use the shift key to get it
[04:17] <zeld1> I have 160 gb.
[04:17] <draeath> Flannel: another low-latency question. I'll also be gaming a bit, no issues with nvidia driver?
[04:17] <draeath> Flannel: i like tiny /boot partitions :P
[04:17] <zeld1> I have 140 for win
[04:17] <zabin> systemD0wn: perhaps check your jumpers and move them around i had a problem like that before and thats what i did.
[04:17] <Jordan_U> systemd0wn, If you are getting an error from grub then it is installed to the correct place, you are just having a problem with your menu.list most likely
[04:17] <RickH> Zeld1:  What do you need to do?  If you already have an OS Loader, installing Feisty will come before the OS loader, with a new option which says "other OSes"
[04:18] <slackorama> Can anyone help me out with getting \M recognized in my .inputrc.  It seems like only \e works.
[04:18] <zeld1> well Im trying to install it on a 10gb hdd, and its not letting me.
[04:18] <unagi> but the problem im having is x server doesnt start back up
[04:18] <Flannel> draeath: I have no idea re: low-latency and gaming.  You might try #ubuntustudio, they're the champions of -lowlatency
[04:18] <draeath> my xubuntu system here has it's filesystem seperated into 6 partitions :D
[04:18] <bruenig> unagi, start it with init 5
[04:18] <unagi> in fact i have to push ctrl alt f1 to get back to the consoel
[04:18] <rockets> Jordan_U, that did NOT work
[04:18] <kitche> draeath: you mean 4 but one of them in logical
[04:18] <rockets> Jordan_U, glx fails and it falls back to vesa or ati or whatever
[04:18] <zeld1> Ive got win installed on a 140gb hdd, thats partitioned 2x.
[04:18] <astro76> zeld1, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GettingUbuntu
[04:18] <systemd0wn> Jordan_U, the default under advanced is hda but i dont have any hda devices, its sda which im trying to install linux to.
[04:18] <draeath> Flannel: i would imagine it would only hurt in the event of a 'crash' as the kernel would get stuck pre-empted. at least from my poor understanding of it
[04:18] <RickH> zeld1:  Change file system to EX2, and then change mount to "/"
[04:19] <astro76> zeld1, errr  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[04:19] <Jordan_U> rockets, Did you choose fglrx when asked?
[04:19] <systemd0wn> Jordan_U, tried the jumpers..
[04:19] <rockets> Jordan_U, yes
[04:19] <draeath> kitche: correct. Just like I have 1023MB of ram, after the first 640k
[04:19] <retour> draeath: how it helps? I can see /root and /Home and /swap but 6???
[04:19] <rockets> Jordan_U, and I chose the correct resolution
[04:19] <zeld1> rick: that would work?
[04:19] <eboyjr> Anyone know what the best IRCd is? irc-hybrid, ircd-irc2, etc...
[04:19] <Jordan_U> rockets, What happens when you try to run: sudo modprobe fglrx
[04:19] <PurpZeY> !best
[04:19] <draeath> retour: my /var /tmp and /home are seperate, which means I can use different block sizes :D
[04:19] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[04:19] <Flannel> retour: / not /root.  but /var some people have a storage directory, etc, etc.
[04:19] <lite-X> can ubuntun load all software for linux
[04:19] <ebuth> is the package vmware-server supposed to be available in synaptic?
[04:20] <rockets> Jordan_U, no output so i assume it works
[04:20] <Flannel> lite-X: yes.  It is linux
[04:20] <rockets> Jordan_U, hers what i did
[04:20] <RickH> zeld1:  That's waht I did.
[04:20] <Jordan_U> ebuth, It's in ubuntu-commercial
[04:20] <lite-X> lol thanks flannel
[04:20] <Nutubuntu> ebuth yes - but you need to add the commercial repos
[04:20] <zeld1> ok thanks.
[04:20] <rockets> Jordan_U, I ran the commands you told me to, set fglrx and 1280x800
[04:20] <lite-X> new to this
[04:20] <rockets> Jordan_U, logged out
[04:20] <RickH> zeld1:  I can now boot into Vista32, Vista64 or Windows 2K after going through the Feisty loader.
[04:20] <lite-X> learnin
[04:20] <unagi> sudo /etc/init.d/5 restart?
[04:20] <rockets> Jordan_U, went to a regular console and did sudo /etc/init.d/restart gdm
[04:20] <Nutubuntu> Jordan_U,  you're fasssst :)
[04:20] <draeath> RickH: i get freebsd loader, then grub, then windows
[04:20] <draeath> RickH: the freeBSD loader as it will let me boot from any attached removable media without config files. it all fits in MBR
[04:21] <lite-X> so all i do is put it on disk and load it up and it will install on my h/d yes
[04:21] <Xago> I'm sad....:(
[04:21] <retour> draeath: block sizes are different because of different partition sizes or you set them up manually, file system is ext3 or reiser?
[04:21] <draeath> retour: manual setup
[04:21] <unagi> bruenig what command did u say i should use
[04:21] <draeath> retour: ext3
[04:21] <bruenig> init 5
[04:22] <draeath> i havent changed block sizes from default however, but later on when I decide what I want i will boot to a CD to 'convert' it (really just backup, reformat with new params, restore)
[04:22] <Nichod> Hello.
[04:22] <Jordan_U> rockets, Try re-installing fglrx from apt, envy may have screwed it up ( I have seen envy screw up the packaged fglrx before )
[04:22] <retour> draeath: can you give me your values as examples? I was always going with defaults but would be nice to experiment and see if it makes it faster or more space efficient?
[04:22] <rockets> Jordan_U, thats what i did
[04:23] <rockets> Jordan_U, I installed the default ubuntu fglrx package (which I know works for me)
[04:23] <lite-X> is ubuntu best linux
[04:23] <draeath> retour: generally the smaller the block size the more 'efficient', minus the extra overhead for storing the file info. smaller blocks = better for smaller files
[04:23] <Jordan_U> rockets, apt-get install --reinstall ?
[04:23] <Jordan_U> !best | lite-X
[04:23] <rockets> Jordan_U, no i mean i just did it after you told me to do sudo dpkg-reconfigure etc etc
[04:23] <ubotu> lite-X: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[04:23] <bruenig> unagi, also gdm stop and then gdm restart doesn't make sense, all gdm restart does is: gdm stop ; gdm start
[04:23] <bruenig> unagi, so you are essentially doing gdm stop gdm stop gdm start
[04:23] <lite-X> thanks
[04:23] <RustySford> anybody know any good programs to view the temps from an asus board? I tried wine and asus probe but get lots of driver failed messages and it won't work for me.
[04:23] <rockets> bruenig, sure it does. you can stop and start it in one command
[04:24] <draeath> retour: the more useful reason that I seperated was that if I loose a filesystem for some reason, it isn't crippling
[04:24] <unagi> but gdm isnt starting with restart
[04:24] <Nichod> anyone here running Ubuntu on a Gateway?
[04:24] <Nutubuntu> RustySford,  ksensors?
[04:24] <rockets> bruenig, just like /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[04:24] <rockets> which DOES work
[04:24] <Jordan_U> rockets, sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx --reinstall
[04:24] <draeath> retour: and seperate journals for each means move journal coverage overall :P
[04:24] <bruenig> rockets, you misread, read again
[04:24] <nomasteryoda> Nichod, i just setup Kubuntu on a gatewqy laptop
[04:24] <lite-X> is ubuntu better then windows and if it is what makes it better
[04:24] <lite-X> ?
[04:24] <nomasteryoda> works sweet
[04:24] <rockets> lite-X, define better
[04:24] <Jordan_U> lite-X, In some ways it is, in others it isn'te
[04:24] <Jordan_U> *isn't
[04:24] <Nichod> ahh.
[04:24] <draeath> lite-X: everything is 'better' than something else, depends on usage. Even DOS has uses.
[04:25] <lite-X> yes
[04:25] <rockets> draeath, dos has good support for dos games :-D
[04:25] <unagi> bruenig:  what is the command for restarting x server
[04:25] <Jordan_U> lite-X, It all depends on what you like and what you need to do
[04:25] <Nichod> nomasteryoda: any issues?
[04:25] <rockets> unagi, you can use /etc/init.d/gdm restart (or kdm if thats what you have)
[04:25] <lite-X> i like to try out linux to see what s it like
[04:25] <draeath> rockets: low level access, extremely small footprint, etc. Good for legacy embedded crap i imagine.
[04:25] <Frogzoo> lite-X: people in #ubuntu-offtopic will be happy to discuss this at length
[04:25] <unagi> gdm restart doesnt work
[04:25] <banlieue> is there a way to make the "Search" button in Nautilus open the search files window (places > search for files) rather than triggering the obviously inferior search through address bar?
[04:25] <db_> yeah DOS is great for playing gorilla.bas =)
[04:25] <lite-X> lol
[04:25] <unagi> it takes me to the restart text but it doesnt finish it
[04:25] <rockets> draeath, yeah thats basically all freedos is for. that and dos games
[04:25] <Jordan_U> lite-X, You can run Ubuntu from the LiveCD without even installing to try it out
[04:25] <draeath> DOS is good for BIOS flashing :P
[04:25] <Nutubuntu> lite-X,  live CDs are great for trying out the difference .
[04:25] <RickH> Okay, with aptitude how do you remove the old boot options?
[04:26] <unagi> i have to ctrl alt f1 to get to the console to start gdm
[04:26] <lite-X> yes
[04:26] <rockets> RickH, like an old kernel?
[04:26] <lite-X> i try it
[04:26] <Nichod> nomasteryoda? any issues on the Gateway?
[04:26] <retour> draeath: small is relative 1kB file or 100kB is still small? And I'm not guru in journalized files systems so if partition fails data is corrupted hmm dont feel that last one
[04:26] <lite-X> now i want to install it
[04:26] <younghacker> ok i got the web page to show in my directory,, now,, it is not producing my pictures only the alternate text
[04:26] <RickH> rockets:  yeah
[04:26] <RickH> rockets:  I don't see an option
[04:26] <lite-X> but how do i install software
[04:26] <rockets> RickH, im assuming you want to remove 2.6.20-15
[04:26] <rockets> RickH, right?
[04:26] <Phrozen_One> how do I mount partitions to give only particular users access to the partition?
[04:26] <RickH> rockets:  yes.
[04:26] <Jordan_U> lite-X, Applications -> Add/remove
[04:26] <ivancmz> Hello, I've just installed Ubuntu on my Toshiba Sattellite P105, it works great, but I get no sound from the soundcard, and I can't use FN+F5 to swap between internal and external monitors...any clues will be apreciated
[04:26] <younghacker> it does show pictures when i view it in my browser directly from the file
[04:26] <Flannel> !synaptic | lite-X
[04:26] <ubotu> lite-X: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[04:26] <bruenig> you can do killall X ; startx
[04:26] <draeath> retour: generally don't worry about block size. It's one of those things where "If you don't know what it's for, you don't need it"
[04:26] <Frogzoo> Phrozen_One: group permissions
[04:26] <rockets> RickH, ok, open synaptic, click search, change the search to "name" and search for 2.6.20-15
[04:26] <ebuth> is vmware-server the best virtualization software?
[04:26] <rockets> RickH, remove everything thats installed that comes up
[04:27] <Taco`> Can someone help me with the Trash Applet?
[04:27] <unagi> does anyone know why?
[04:27] <rockets> RickH, thats what I do
[04:27] <Nutubuntu> !best
[04:27] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[04:27] <Nichod> hmm.
[04:27] <Phrozen_One> Frogzoo, how can I mount a partition and give particular groups access :)
[04:27] <RickH> rockets:  Makes so much sense. :)
[04:27] <Nichod> dang. maybe I missed him.
[04:27] <lite-X> thanks everyone going to try it out noow i be back cya in abit thanks for everyone one help this is a nice place good people here i like it
[04:27] <lite-X> :)
[04:27] <Pelo> Phrozen_One, you'd probably want to set permissions for the mount point instead of the partition
[04:27] <draeath> retour: as far as journal... the journal on each FS can only store so many 'transactions' (writes, erases, etc) - having a seperate journal for frequently used filesystems (/var) means that more journal is available on /home for instance.
[04:28] <Frogzoo> Phrozen_One: either look at acls or create a group for access to the disk & add everyone to that group
[04:28] <RickH> rockets:  Mark for removal, or complete removal?
[04:28] <Phrozen_One> Pelo, thats a different spin on what I was thinking, so if I grant group X access to /mnt/point it will work when I mount it?
[04:28] <draeath> I also like the windows drive management program to cry when it tries to read all those drives :D
[04:28] <Jordan_U> rockets, still no go?
[04:28] <banlieue> also, isn't there some sort of desktop widget for a terminal? like, sliding out of an icon on click or similar?
[04:28] <retour> draeath: remember dealing with it since first 2GB disks back in DOS times so I know a bit. Just dont know how small/bi file size changed since than
[04:28] <Nichod> Well anyone else on a Gateway?
[04:28] <unagi> so no one knows
[04:28] <rockets> RickH, eh its up to you. complete removal gets rid of config files. either one will remove the boot options. you can also just comment out the boot options in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:28] <unagi> cool ill figure it out
[04:28] <rockets> Jordan_U, yeah. well i dont know what else to try honestly
[04:28] <Pelo> Phrozen_One,  not someting I have ever done, I was just telling you the way I think I would go , I would have to research it more
[04:28] <rockets> Jordan_U, been googling it.
[04:28] <rockets> Jordan_U, emailed the envy dude as well
[04:28] <Justi1> how do I edit xorg.conf from terminal?
[04:29] <Nutubuntu> banlieue,  maybe something like tilda ... ? (which I didn't like, fwiw)
[04:29] <RickH> rockets:  I thought about doing that.  Is it okay to leave everything there for 2.6.20-15?
[04:29] <draeath> retour: poke around with 'ls -lah /directory' to figure out average filesizes
[04:29] <Jordan_U> rockets, I have no idea why it would work at one point and not another
[04:29] <rockets> Justi1, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:29] <rockets> Jordan_U, nor do I
[04:29] <rockets> RickH, sure, just takes up HD space thats all
[04:29] <witless> how do i disable user switching?  every time it's switched it locks up X (or something)
[04:29] <banlieue> Nutubuntu: yea, something like Tilda.. but not Tilda, as I didn't like it either :)
[04:29] <Pelo> Justi1,  sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:29] <Nichod> hmm.
[04:29] <systemd0wn> Question, on the last step of install, you can specify where the boot loader goes, it says "hda0" but i dont have any hda hard drives, only sdc
[04:29] <Nichod> ok. I'll try somewhere else.
[04:29] <draeath> retour: regardless of filesize, a file is stored in whole blocks (so if you have a 64kb file on a system with 16kb blocks, that file uses 4 blocks. a 67 kb file would take 5.)
[04:29] <banlieue> I like the idea of Tilda, not the implementation
[04:29] <RickH> rockets:  Thanks so much :)
[04:30] <rockets> RickH, what i do after i upgrade the kernel is i let it run for a few days. if it seems fine, then i use synaptic to remove the old one
[04:30] <rockets> RickH, np
[04:30] <Justi1> how do I restart x window server?
[04:30] <RickH> rockets:  Agreed.  2.6.20-16 seems stable. :)
[04:30] <rockets> Justi1, /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[04:30] <draeath> Justi1: ctrl-alt-backspace
[04:30] <Pelo> Justi1, crtl + alt + backsdpace
[04:30] <rockets> that too.
[04:30] <Pelo> damn
[04:30] <RickH> rockets:  Freed up 179MB.
[04:30] <Nutubuntu> banlieue,  maybe yakuake (sp?)
[04:30] <draeath> hope he meant to do it RIGHT NOW
[04:30] <rockets> RickH, yeah thats why i remove. theyre large
[04:31] <ivancmz> No sound on toshiba laptop...any ideas??
[04:31] <banlieue> google suggests yakuake :] 
[04:31] <Nutubuntu> lol draeath
[04:31] <banlieue> let me try that, ty
[04:31] <slackorama> any shed some light on a inputrc and readline problem I'm having?
[04:32] <Noobutntu> hllo
[04:32] <banlieue> i like the look of yakuake, but it also seems to show up from the top
[04:32] <Justi1> where do I find and edit startup programs?
[04:32] <LDS_Trooper> How do I use Alacarte and 7Zip?
[04:32] <systemd0wn> Question, on the last step of install, you can specify where the boot loader goes, it says "hda0" but i dont have any hda hard drives, only sdc
[04:32] <banlieue> not sure why they prefer that
[04:32] <LDS_Trooper> I have them installed supposedly...
[04:33] <Nutubuntu> banlieue,  haven't tried yakuake but I remember tilda was configurable (where it appeared on the screen, offset x and y)
[04:33] <unagi> can someone explain to me why whenever i make a script with sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop and start in it it doesnt start
[04:33] <RickH> dissection:  Okay, trying reboot.  Let you know if it worked. :)
[04:33] <retour> draeath: yes this I remember since DOS times hehe. But about lots of transactions - what level of files system usage justifies such trick? server or even single workstation can benefit? And what you think about reiser fs? it supposed to be better and faster than ext(s) is it true?
[04:33] <rockets> yeah. yakuake is good but doesnt play too well with gnome
[04:33] <Noobutntu> My name is the best, dont you guys agree?
[04:33] <LDS_Trooper> How do I use Alacarte and 7Zip?
[04:33] <bruenig> unagi, look at the gdm script and see what it says
[04:33] <LDS_Trooper> I have them installed supposedly...
[04:33] <banlieue> really? I don't remember it having that.. let me reinstall Tilda then, ty Nutubuntu
[04:33] <unagi> what do you mean
[04:34] <banlieue> Noobutntu: would be more clevererer had you written *buntu properly
[04:34] <bruenig> unagi, I don't even think that it is necessary for you to do that, just move your xorgs into place and do killall X, startx
[04:34] <bruenig> unagi, /etc/init.d/gdm is a script
[04:34] <bruenig> unagi, you can read it and see what it does
[04:34] <unagi> lemme try killall X and startx
[04:34] <Noobuntu> that's because someone already owns it
[04:34] <LDS_Trooper> How do I use Alacarte and 7Zip? Please help
[04:35] <RickH> dissection:  It worked.  Ubuntu rocks!
[04:35] <dissection> Yay!
[04:35] <Nutubuntu> *cough*
[04:35] <unagi> killall X says 'no process killed'
[04:35] <RickH> dissection:  Did you see rockets' explanation?
[04:35] <phreck> gah
[04:35] <phreck> i installed beryl
[04:35] <phreck> and my system theme went to something default and shitty looking
[04:35] <phreck> anyone know how to fix that
[04:36] <phreck> im running gnome
[04:36] <systemd0wn> phreck, check the beryl manager
[04:36] <LDS_Trooper> How do I use Alacarte and 7Zip? Please help
[04:36] <unagi> what does ctrl +  alt + backspace do
[04:36] <Justi1> How can I convert a windows driver for a WLAN card into something that will run on ubuntu?
[04:36] <unagi> what is the command issued with that keystroke
[04:36] <Jordan_U> unagi, It stops X
[04:36] <systemd0wn> justil, ndis wrappers,
[04:36] <unagi> what command does it issue
[04:36] <draeath> retour: if you use a modern FS (even NTFS) it journals EVERYTHING
[04:36] <bruenig> unagi, killall X as root
[04:37] <LDS_Trooper> anyone?
[04:37] <david120> phreck: emerald & compiz --replace -c
[04:37] <adamsca1> to LDS_Trooper: 7z x aaa.zip
[04:37] <Justi1> systemd0wn: I installed that, but I am not sure what to do now
[04:37] <LDS_Trooper> adamsca1, what do you mean?
[04:37] <unagi> how do u do it as root
[04:37] <david120> Compiz fusion
[04:37] <Jordan_U> unagi, sudo
[04:37] <unagi> it tells me no process killed
[04:37] <bruenig> sudo killall X I guess
[04:37] <unagi> what command is issued when you press ctrl + alt + backspace
[04:37] <retour> draeath: thank you!
[04:38] <systemd0wn> Justil, go to a terminal window and type "beryl-manager"
[04:38] <Noobuntu> unagi, that isn't funny
[04:38] <systemd0wn> Justil, no quotes
[04:38] <unagi> what isnt funny
[04:38] <unagi> it isnt meant as a joke
[04:38] <Justi1> systemd0wn: for a network card?
[04:38] <banlieue> I still don't like Tilda a lot, but i'll use it for now as it's as close as I'll get probably
[04:38] <banlieue> ty Nutubuntu :)
[04:38] <Jordan_U> unagi, I am not sure that it is a command per-se, I think it is just caught by X and X decides to stop itself
[04:38] <arang> hi
[04:38] <unagi> i want to know the terminal command that is issued for that keystroke
[04:38] <Noobuntu> unagi, it restarts X
[04:38] <unagi> i know WHAT it does
[04:38] <rolfen> what's the best 3d game for ubuntu? besides nexuiz...
[04:38] <unagi> i want to know what COMMAND is issued when its pressed
[04:38] <systemd0wn> Justil, shit sorry wrong person... um. i havent had to use them myself. let me see if i can find a good howto... google with me for a min
[04:39] <Nutubuntu> y/w banlieue - I talked myself into trying it again too :) I didn't realize that one of its best features even existed ...
[04:39] <banlieue> rolfen: frozen bubble of course
[04:39] <Jordan_U> unagi, And I am telling you that that question may not make sense
[04:39] <Shadow_mil> what package is needed to fix
[04:39] <Shadow_mil> checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[04:39] <Noobuntu> unagi, sorry
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[04:39] <unagi> it has to be some sort of command Jordan_U
[04:39] <Jordan_U> unagi, Why?
[04:39] <banlieue> Nutubuntu: which feature would be the best you reckon?
[04:39] <Justi1> rolfen: armagetron advanced
[04:39] <kitche> unagi: there is no command that is issued it kills X
[04:39] <unagi> because everything has an intializing string to it
[04:39] <adamsca1> LDS_Trooper, do u mean how to use 7zip?
[04:39] <kitche> unagi: it's hard coded into the code
[04:39] <LDS_Trooper> I don't even see 7Zip on my menus.. tho it is installed
[04:39] <unagi> that doesnt make sense =(
[04:40] <rolfen> banlieue: frozen bubble is cool but not what i'm looking for
[04:40] <unagi> i just want to create a script to restart X
[04:40] <regfire> hey all, anyone know of a free, decent Cisco IOS emulator to be used in Ubuntu?
[04:40] <unagi> i didnt realize this would be so difficult
[04:40] <banlieue> rolfen: buy World of Warcraft
[04:40] <StoneNote> LDS_Trooper, look for p7zip
[04:40] <banlieue> or Unreal Tournament 2004
[04:40] <adamsca1> u can use 7zip in a shell command window
[04:40] <systemd0wn> Justil, you read this yet?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[04:40] <LDS_Trooper> I need to to open an archive.. one that was 7zipped under windows
[04:40] <Nutubuntu> banlieue,  this'll sound as dumb to you as it felt to me ... I didn't realize it lets me bind it to a keypress ... e.g., press F12 and there's a terminal; press it again and presto! it rolls up
[04:40] <unagi> if i have to ill manually do it myself but im trying to eliminate that process
[04:40] <david120> You can use VMwre Workstation to play games in XP
[04:40] <Jordan_U> unagi, Just because ctrl+alt+backspace does not issue a command does not mean that the equivalent cannot be done with a command.
[04:40] <banlieue> heh Nutubuntu
[04:40] <rolfen> well thanks all for your suggestions :)
[04:40] <LDS_Trooper> I also installed alacarte so I can control what is on the menus.. but I don't see that either
[04:41] <unagi> but no one is able to explain to  me the command to do it or why the commands im using arent working Jordan_U
[04:41] <banlieue> i totally looked over the positioning/placement last time I ran it, Nutubuntu, so we're in the same boat ;P
[04:41] <RickH> Is there a good x86/IA-32 emulator for Ubuntu/Debian?
[04:41] <adamsca1> in the archive dir, you can type "7z x aaa.7z", aaa.7z is your archive file name
[04:41] <Jordan_U> LDS_Trooper, It is ironic I know, but you need to use alacarte to add alacarte to the menu :)
[04:41] <Nutubuntu> banlieue,  now I'm thinking about it in combination with 'screen'
[04:41] <LDS_Trooper> Jordan.. how?
[04:41] <Justi1> how do I install ndisgtk from repositiories?
[04:41] <eboyjr> What is the opposite of "sudo apt-get install moo"? It's not "sudo apt-get uninstall moo"
[04:42] <LDS_Trooper> Jordan_U,  how?
[04:42] <Jordan_U> unagi, Where is this script you are running and is it being run as root?
[04:42] <Jordan_U> LDS_Trooper, By staring it from the run dialog or a terminal
[04:42] <rolfen> eboyjr: type man apt-get :)
[04:42] <Nutubuntu> eboyjr,  remove
[04:42] <eboyjr> k
[04:43] <Flannel> eboyjr: remove, and you probably want --purge too (removes config files as well) apt-get remove --purge moo
[04:43] <unagi> what is the command for executing a script
[04:43] <unagi> csh?
[04:43] <systemd0wn> Justil, ever use synaptic?  At the top of gnome click System --> Administration --> Synaptic package manger
[04:43] <kitche> und3rB3ar: sh or ./file>
[04:43] <neozen> hoallo all
[04:44] <Jordan_U> unagi, If the script is not run as root then it will not be able to get root privileges with sudo, because you won't be there to enter your password :)
[04:44] <unagi> ok even running the script as root
[04:44] <rolfen> unagi: what do you mean "a script csh"?
[04:44] <coopster> If i have a network switch (not router), can I plug two computers and a cable modem into it, and use one computer to share the cable modem with the other?
[04:44] <unagi> it asks me for the password
[04:44] <unagi> ok let me reiterate whats going on
[04:44] <unagi> when i run the script X stops and im taken to the console....but it doesnt restart
[04:44] <systemd0wn> coopster, no
[04:44] <coopster> i.e. have one computer use one interface with 2 ip addresses?
[04:44] <coopster> crap.
[04:44] <Jordan_U> unagi, What script?
[04:44] <Noobuntu> anybody got some tips for talking to girls?
[04:44] <unagi> the script i made
[04:44] <Firebird> lol
[04:45] <coopster> Noobuntu, don't listen to linux guys
[04:45] <milllmannn> has anyone set up a rails stack using the apt-get version of apache2 on dapper?
[04:45] <rolfen> Noobuntu: man girls
[04:45] <Jordan_U> Nutubuntu, sudo apt-get install charisma
[04:45] <systemd0wn> Noobuntu, ever read "The Game" by Neil something or other?
[04:45] <witless> how do i disable user switching?  every time it's switched it locks up X (or something)
[04:45] <Firebird> there better not be a man page :) *checking*
[04:45] <banlieue> well then, I just broke Tilda
[04:45] <rolfen> Noobuntu: segmentation fault
[04:45] <Noobuntu> ive read Enders Game
[04:45] <coopster> Noobuntu, and keep in mind that there are millions of em and no one really will remember what an ass you made of yourself 10 minutes after it happened.
[04:45] <RickH> bochs seems to be the only one.
[04:45] <Nutubuntu> lol Jordan_U ... wrong Nuuub though ;P
[04:45] <Justi1> What is the file that allows me to enable/disable universe and multiverse?
[04:45] <gmu_man> gmu_man
[04:45] <systemd0wn> Noobuntu, ya enders game wont get you their
[04:45] <Havek> i need help installing ubuntu on a fakeRAID can anyone help me out?
[04:45] <rolfen> Noobuntu: systemd0wn It's neill strauss
[04:46] <Jordan_U> Justi1, /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:46] <unagi> im just trying to replace my xorg.conf and restart X server in one script
[04:46] <Nutubuntu> banlieue,  how?
[04:46] <systemd0wn> Rolfen, thanks... im actually reading it right now just didnt want to look :)  Damn its a good book
[04:46] <LDS_Trooper> Jordan_U, thanks.. hmmm still cannot find
[04:46] <LDS_Trooper> ok.. maybe something else..
[04:46] <LDS_Trooper> what else can open zips?
[04:46] <banlieue> Nutubuntu: I set keybindings to ALT+F3, and it freaked out :o
[04:46] <systemd0wn> Justil, go to System-->Administration-->Software sources
[04:46] <banlieue> apparently it doesn't like "ALT"
[04:46] <gmu_man> where do I start to figure out why my system locks up?
[04:47] <banlieue> now it's giving me all sorts of errors, refusing to open the config window (even with tilda -c)
[04:47] <rolfen> systemd0wn: Yeah it's good and entertaining :) i read it pretty fast
[04:47] <unagi> sigh this doesnt make sense
[04:47] <systemd0wn> rolfen, haha. ya. he just got got done stealing his girl back from Andy Dick
[04:47] <Jordan_U> unagi, sudo cp /etc/X11/alternate_xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf && sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[04:47] <unagi> if i run /etc/init.d/gdm restart in the console it will restart......
[04:47] <Jordan_U> unagi, No script needed, just run that command
[04:47] <Nutubuntu> banlieue,  apt-get remove --purge and reinstall ... ?
[04:48] <unagi> what is&&
[04:48] <banlieue> Nutubuntu: that's what im doing right now :)
[04:48] <Havek> can anyone help me with installing on a fakeRAID?
[04:48] <banlieue> I wonder what it wants instead of "ALT" though
[04:48] <rolfen> systemd0wn: :)
[04:48] <kitche> unagi: with sudo it will need human interaction though
[04:48] <systemd0wn> *crosses fingers* god i hope ubuntu install correctly this time
[04:48] <banlieue> it also doesn't accept <ALT> or %
[04:48] <jetscreamer> unagi: do the next after the first is successful
[04:48] <jetscreamer> &&
[04:48] <Jordan_U> unagi, Run the second command after the first command if and only if the first completed successfully
[04:48] <jetscreamer> & is don't wait jsut do it
[04:48] <systemd0wn> havek, you will just have to do a software raid
[04:48] <jetscreamer> what he said
[04:48] <Nutubuntu> banlieue, seems to be fine with "None+<key>" ... that's all I've experimented with so far, and after reading your experience, maybe I'll leave it that way ;P
[04:48] <John`> how is it to paste the same word that you copy multiple time in openoffice writer?
[04:48] <banlieue> lol
[04:49] <banlieue> i don't want None+key though, it'll bug with my keybindings in other applications:)
[04:49] <FuM> Arg, wheres windows support when you need it.
[04:49] <Havek> sysyemd0wn : i ahve tried this i keep on getting the error "Not RAIDs found"
[04:49] <unagi> so i could have ubuntu kill avant window navigator after its done restarting
[04:49] <gmu_man> would any expert be willing to pm me to help figure out why my ubuntu server is crashing?
[04:49] <LDS_Trooper> what else can open zips?
[04:49] <BaD_CrC> peazip
[04:49] <{-Billy-}> How can i dual boot ubuntu?
[04:49] <ant-> gzip
[04:49] <BaD_CrC> http://peazip.sf.net/
[04:49] <BaD_CrC> unzip <file>
[04:50] <ant-> there you go
[04:50] <BaD_CrC> heh
[04:50] <Jordan_U> gmu_man, If this channel is too crowded try #ubuntu-classroom
[04:50] <systemd0wn> havek, ya you have to create a new raid. .. disable the "hardware" one from bios, or wherever you set it up earlier
[04:50] <kitche> ant-: don't think gzip opens up zip files does it? never tried it on a regular zip
[04:50] <unagi> sigh
[04:50] <unagi> that didnt work either
[04:50] <gmu_man> Jordan_U, Thanks...
[04:50] <jetscreamer> {-Billy-}: nano -w /boot/grub/menu.lst there's an example in there, also apt-get install grub-doc and info grub
[04:50] <unagi> it stops X and then it sits at the console till i restart gdm manually
[04:50] <RustySford> hey thanks for the help I just googled it and instaled lm-sensors but ty anyway
[04:50] <Noobuntu> is Xchat one of the best irc progs?
[04:50] <Havek> systemd0wn: well i am trying to do a dual boot, Vista is already installed on this RAID
[04:50] <LDS_Trooper> gonna try Ark
[04:50] <jetscreamer> i think it's grub-doc
[04:50] <Jordan_U> unagi, Just running that command from an xterm didn't work?
[04:50] <LDS_Trooper> brb
[04:50] <J0HN> hello
[04:50] <jetscreamer> file-roller > ark
[04:50] <systemd0wn> Havek, oh shit, i duno never tried that.
[04:50] <banlieue> wow, that was silly, lol.....
[04:51] <unagi> let me recheck if it successfully executes if i type it alone
[04:51] <unagi> brb
[04:51] <systemd0wn> havek, sorry
[04:51] <mneptok> !ohmy > systemd0wn
[04:51] <banlieue> it required "Alt" instead of "ALT" (case sensitive, welcome to linux, banlieue)
[04:51] <J0HN> I'm a Software Engineer major and have been interested in getting into Linux for a while.
[04:51] <ant-> kitche, it does
[04:51] <Havek> systemd0wn : thats ok i just went through the tutorial and it led me no where lol
[04:51] <thinksInCode> hi all
[04:51] <J0HN> I've been hoping on learning how to write applications for linux
[04:51] <systemd0wn> mneptok, wtf?
[04:51] <thinksInCode> anyone feel like helping me out with an annoying usb hard drive issue?
[04:51] <unagi> ok so that brings me closer to the anwer
[04:51] <Nutubuntu> lol banlieue - it figures ... amazing.
[04:51] <J0HN> with the exception of Java, does anybody have any recommendations?
[04:51] <systemd0wn> havek, i hate that STUFF
[04:51] <John`> how do you paste a word multiple times in openoffice writer?
[04:51] <unagi> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart doesnt restart gdm
[04:51] <John`> anyone know?
[04:51] <thinksInCode> J0HN: what's wrong with Java?
[04:51] <unagi> it just stops it
[04:52] <mneptok> systemd0wn: language, dude.
[04:52] <Ryan_Stalets> Hey, I have a question about availible software for Ubuntu
[04:52] <Jordan_U> J0HN, python
[04:52] <Havek> systemd0wn: yea i got to a step that just said post ur problem on the forum......
[04:52] <systemd0wn> mneptok, i have how the world limits my freespeech, jeez even in IRC.
[04:52] <J0HN> Java's nice - i was just wondering if there's a more native solution
[04:52] <TimGroe> http://digg.com/programming/ShareSource_The_new_web_2_0_Sourceforge_alternative
[04:52] <John`> Jordan_U: what do you mean?
[04:52] <unagi> does anyone have any ideas why gdm restart doesnt restart gdm for me?
[04:52] <Jordan_U> John`, That wasn't to you
[04:52] <Nutubuntu> J0HN,  you could check out ruby or python
[04:52] <Spaceman3750> Hey, is there any parental control software for Ubuntu?
[04:52] <John`> sorry
[04:53] <Fuzzyghost> Anyone have advice for installing Ubuntu on an AMD 64bit 3200 athlon?
[04:53] <systemd0wn> havek, well good luck, if it makes you feel better no one has been able to help me with my problem.
[04:53] <Jordan_U> Spaceman3750, Yes, look at what comes with edubuntu
[04:53] <Fuzzyghost> I tried installing Ubuntu 7.04 on it, but when it gets to the partitioner, it just fails.
[04:53] <J0HN> ruby is for web development, isn't it?
[04:53] <mneptok> systemd0wn: try yelling "fire" in a theater
[04:53] <unagi> Jordan_U:  does gdm restart work for you?
[04:53] <preaction> J0HN: no
[04:53] <ant-> !64 | Fuzzyghost
[04:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 64 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:53] <thinksInCode> anyway, I will throw it out there... Why would my external USB 2.0 hard drive work fine up until I format the partition with a filesystem, then not be recognized after that?
[04:53] <Jordan_U> Fuzzyghost, Try the alternate CD
[04:53] <Jordan_U> unagi, Yes
[04:53] <Havek> systemd0wn: well i will keep on trying
[04:53] <Noobuntu> CHAU MIS AMIGOS, JE DOIT PARTIR
[04:53] <Fuzzyghost> Alternate CD?
[04:53] <unagi> meaning it brings X back up?
[04:53] <Jordan_U> unagi, Try running screen then running the command
[04:54] <J0HN> so ruby on rails can be used for creating apps?
[04:54] <unagi> screen?
[04:54] <systemd0wn> mneptok, exactly. i cant even have a conversation about jager bombs on the plane anymore!
[04:54] <Jordan_U> unagi, Yes, but I have only really done it from another virtual terminal
[04:54] <Havek> systemd0wn: do you know how to get the Alternate CD ? the toturial said to get that
[04:54] <Noobuntu> lol
[04:54] <rockets> Jordan_U, screw it. Once my torrents finish, im reinstalling. Its quicker at this point
[04:54] <Noobuntu> jager bombs
[04:54] <Jordan_U> !screen |
[04:54] <preaction> J0HN: rails is not ruby. ruby is a programming language, rails is a development framework
[04:54] <ubotu> : screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[04:54] <banlieue> well then, Tilda will do *takes off todo list*
[04:54] <Spaceman3750> is Edubuntu the same as Ubuntu but with additional software, or what?
[04:54] <LDS_Trooper> sweet... ARK did it!
[04:54] <Jordan_U> !screen | unagi
[04:54] <J0HN> ooh
[04:54] <ubotu> unagiplease see above
[04:54] <J0HN> ok
[04:54] <kitche> J0HN: yes I use it for metaprogramming actually
[04:54] <mneptok> systemd0wn: this channel has rules. sorry.
[04:54] <unagi> see ctrl alt backspace actually restarts it for me
[04:54] <rockets> systemd0wn, #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:54] <unagi> gdm restart doesnt
[04:54] <unagi> !screen
[04:54] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[04:55] <Jordan_U> unagi, sudo apt-get install screen
[04:55] <Nutubuntu> that kuro5hin article is an eye-opener
[04:55] <J0HN> so ultimately, i should look into python and ruby?
[04:55] <systemd0wn> mneptok, rockets, aight im done.
[04:55] <unagi> what does it do
[04:55] <Jordan_U> unagi, Run screen, hit enter to get past the prompt then try the command again
[04:55] <mneptok> systemd0wn: thanks
[04:55] <systemd0wn> havek, hrm. duno. not on the site?
[04:55] <thinksInCode> i can explain the problem in more detail if anyone is interested
[04:56] <banlieue> Nutubuntu: in case you missed it, Alt works fine if you type 'Alt' instead of 'ALT' ;)
[04:56] <Jordan_U> unagi, A lot of things, but what is useful in this case is that it will keep the shell alive even after gnome-terminal exits
[04:56] <Nutubuntu> J0HN,  "ultimately" is a big word :)     They're both actively used in the Linux community, along with PHP, Perl ... C++ of course ... I hear good things about Ruby but I have not worked with it
[04:56] <Havek> systemdown: nope not to in the download section
[04:56] <biotrox> hey
[04:56] <rockets> Jordan_U, I fixed it!
[04:56] <jamman> biotrox, whats up?
[04:56] <rockets> Jordan_U, I should have thought of this before.
[04:56] <biotrox> someone please answer my wuestion :(
[04:56] <Havek> Anyone know how to install on a fakeRAID?
[04:56] <jamman> rockets, what was wrong?
[04:56] <biotrox> question
[04:56] <jetscreamer> !find grub-doc
[04:56] <ubotu> Found: grub-doc
[04:56] <Nutubuntu> banlieue, I caught that when you commented on it ... it figures, doesn't it ? Everything ... that is, "everything" ... is case-sensitive
[04:56] <banlieue> lol
[04:56] <jetscreamer> !owner
[04:56] <ubotu> This bot is owned & operated by Seveas. For questions/requests/comments, join #ubuntu-bots
[04:56] <Jordan_U> rockets, What did it?
[04:56] <rockets> jamman, no idea. But sudo dpkg-reconfigure restricted-manager made it detect that I had an ati card again
[04:57] <banlieue> yea, it just slips my mind at times, because I still find it a bit silly in places ;)
[04:57] <J0HN> now throwing php into that mix is what confuses me - i started coding years ago with php and know that is a web server language
[04:57] <rockets> Jordan_U, like i just told jamman
[04:57] <systemd0wn> havek, ya, its on the ubuntu.com download site
[04:57] <biotrox> jamman, my resolution sometimes big sometime small
[04:57] <unagi> what is a gdm theme.....is gdm the login portion?
[04:57] <biotrox> jamman, can't make it small always
[04:57] <rockets> Jordan_U, sudo dpkg-reconfigure restricted-manager
[04:57] <systemd0wn> havek, its just a little check box under the big image that says "start download"
[04:57] <jetscreamer> yes unagi
[04:57] <J0HN> this sounds kind of silly, but i should've stressed that i perfer creating visual (not command line) applications
[04:57] <Nutubuntu> J0HN,  a scripting language, if you will ... so's Ruby, so's Python ... so? doesn't mean you can't develop apps
[04:57] <kitche> J0HN: well ruby is still small and some people like it others don't while others know perl and python really
[04:57] <Fuzzyghost> I do not see any alt. CD option.
[04:57] <unagi> where can i find good gdm themes?
[04:57] <jetscreamer> !dual boot
[04:57] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[04:57] <J0HN> good point :)
[04:57] <systemd0wn> havek, "Check here if you need the alternate desktop CD."
[04:57] <rockets> unagi, gnome-art
[04:57] <banlieue> be right back, 'puter needs a reboot
[04:57] <darwin81> Can I make Ubuntu remove the configuration files for all packages that aren't installed?
[04:57] <rockets> unagi, apt-cache search gnome-art
[04:57] <jetscreamer> !tell {-Billy-} -about dual boot
[04:58] <thinksInCode> it actually is recognized, but I get this error: usb 4-3: device descriptor read/64, error -71
[04:58] <Jordan_U> rockets, OK... that doesn't seem like a clean solution but if it works...
[04:58] <unagi> apt-cache?
[04:58] <unagi> thats new
[04:58] <rockets> Jordan_U, whats wrong with that solution?
[04:58] <Jordan_U> rockets, I still think you should try screen
[04:58] <jarrod> hi
[04:58] <rockets> Jordan_U, huh? I already use screen. What's that got to do with video
[04:58] <Nutubuntu> J0HN,  take a look at GTK - you can front-end Python and get as gui as you like ;)
[04:58] <biotrox> jamman...?
[04:58] <rockets> Jordan_U, screen is a terminal multiplexer . . .
[04:58] <biotrox> can u help me
[04:59] <unagi> !cairo
[04:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cairo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:59] <Havek> systemd0wn: thanks i am downloading now , maybe this will work
[04:59] <jarrod> do you have to reboot a comp before it can recognize a conection w/ a new SSID?
[04:59] <Jordan_U> rockets, It could have dpkg-reconfigure exit in the middle of reconfiguring, it won't work on anything but Ubuntu, it is not the intended use of the command and may break in future versions...
[04:59] <systemd0wn> havek, psh. maybe I should be installing that version :)  having issues myself
[04:59] <ant-> unagi, did you ever get x restarted?
[04:59] <unagi> !cairo-clock
[04:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cairo-clock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:59] <rockets> Jordan_U, huh. what do you mean its not the intended use
[04:59] <thinksInCode> repeating... anyone feel like helping me out with an annoying usb hard drive issue?
[04:59] <unagi> no ant-
[04:59] <rockets> Jordan_U, isnt that EXACTLEY the intended use of the command
[04:59] <J0HN> i'm sorry, but what is GTK?
[04:59] <unagi> i think im  just going to suffer and manually do it
[05:00] <zho> anybody know how to make apache not start automatically on boot?
[05:00] <Jordan_U> rockets, Do you know what dpkg-reconfigure is?
[05:00] <jarrod> do you have to reboot a comp before it can recognize a connection w/ a new SSID?
[05:00] <systemd0wn> you would think that since i have been installing linux since 98 i wouldnt be having so many darn problems. AUGH!
[05:00] <pavs> vitualbox sucks big time anything better?
[05:00] <rockets> Jordan_U, I always thought it just reconfigured whatever package you point it at
[05:00] <Hyarion2> hi, did anyone have issues with ndiswrapper after upgrading to Fiesty?
[05:00] <[_ulisses_] > anyonde knows a link to install nvidia driver?
[05:00] <ant-> unagi, try killing x with kill -HUP gdm-pid
[05:00] <rockets> Jordan_U, and as the man page says it "Reconfigures an already installed package"
[05:00] <Jordan_U> rockets, Yes, so using it just to restart X is a little strange
[05:00] <ant-> unagi, and see if it restarts
[05:00] <LDS_Trooper> JOHN I believe it is "Gimp Tool Kit"
[05:00] <LDS_Trooper> I could be wrong tho
[05:00] <zho> anybody know how to make apache not start automatically on boot?
[05:01] <rockets> Jordan_U, I don't follow your logic.
[05:01] <J0HN> is it some kind of IDE?
[05:01] <unagi> bash: kill: gdm-pid: arguments must be process or job IDs
[05:01] <Justi1> where can I get more screensavers for ubuntu, and can I change the settings for existing ones?
[05:01] <Havek> anyone know how to install on a fakeRAID?
[05:01] <draeath> just installed xubuntu 7.04 and when I run ncurses programs from a TTY the line-drawing characters are all messed up. 'locale' shows me I'm using en_US.utf8
[05:01] <jarrod> do you have to reboot a comp (or other wise receiver) before it can recognize a connection w/ a new SSID?
[05:01] <rockets> Jordan_U, and even if you find it strange, it still is the intended use of the command. I didnt use it to restart X.
[05:01] <ant-> unagi, do you know how to get the pid of gdm?
[05:01] <draeath> any ideas on how to correct?
[05:01] <jessie> zho, sudo update-rc.d apache remove
[05:01] <jessie> i think.
[05:01] <systemd0wn> jarrod, NO
[05:01] <rockets> Jordan_U, I used it to reset the restricted manager. hasn't touched X.
[05:01] <zho> jessie: thx
[05:01] <unagi> gnome-system-monitor?
[05:02] <jessie> yip, thats right zho.
[05:03] <J0HN> hmm. a quick google search has led me to: http://www.linuxheadquarters.com/howto/programming/gtk_examples/index.shtml - it appears GTK+ is used to create controls (hence the original recommendation for my gui goals...)
[05:03] <unagi> gnome panel?
[05:03] <Jordan_U> rockets, Ahh, so you still need to have a script that restarts X ?
[05:03] <draeath> no ideas on fixing line-drawing characters in TTY? looks like the 'font' is incorrect
[05:03] <unagi> which one am i killing
[05:03] <Spaceman3750> Jordan, in case anyone asks you about parental software again, point them to Dansguardian
[05:03] <systemd0wn> question, I am having issues with a fresh install (no dual boot), the boot loader is acting crazy.
[05:03] <rockets> Jordan_U, huh? why would I need that. just reboot, or hit ctrl-alt-backspace. thats really not worth a script
[05:03] <sacromentus> Ubuntu automatically mounts my NTFS (win xp) partition, but it is read only. How do I make it so I can write to it as well
[05:03] <sacromentus> ?
[05:03] <systemd0wn> anyone be able to help? then i will explain more
[05:03] <rockets> sacromentus, ntfs-3g
[05:04] <J0HN> brb
[05:04] <rockets> !ntfs-3g
[05:04] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:04] <unagi> i couldnt figure out ntfs-3g
[05:04] <sacromentus> thanks!
[05:04] <rockets> unagi, its simple
[05:04] <rockets> unagi, sudo ntfs-3g /dev/device /mountpoint/mountpoint
[05:04] <rockets> just like the mount command
[05:04] <unagi> what is a mountpoint
[05:05] <rockets> unagi, where you mount a hard drive. for example, cdroms are usually placed in /media/cdrom
[05:05] <sacromentus> he left :|
[05:05] <unagi> wow
[05:05] <unagi> ant-:
[05:05] <unagi> youre a life saver =)
[05:05] <Jordan_U> !ntfs-3g | unagi
[05:05] <ubotu> unagi: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:05] <jessie> k, who needs help?
[05:05] <ant-> unagi, you got it?
[05:05] <Jordan_U> unagi, That will set it up automatically
[05:05] <unagi> wait.....ok now theres a problem
[05:05] <thinksInCode> i do
[05:05] <draeath> nvidia card. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia shows me gnome instructions. How do I set this up if I do not have gnome?
[05:06] <unagi> x-session is what restarted X when i killed it........
[05:06] <jessie> thinksInCode, shoot away.
[05:06] <Hyarion2> did anyone have any issues with ndiswrapper after upgrading to Fiesty? I'm dead in the water.
[05:06] <unagi> but....the id changes each time
[05:06] <Justi1> Does anyone know any good places to find screensavers?
[05:06] <thinksInCode> jessie: it might be easier to read my forum post here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2999433#post2999433
[05:06] <ant-> unagi, of course
[05:06] <jessie> thinksInCode, ok.
[05:06] <unagi> sigh.....well see im trying to put this in a script ant-
[05:06] <thinksInCode> but the short version is, I have an external usb hard drive that is not being recognized when I boot up my machine
[05:06] <sacromentus> i have a question, ive installed ubuntu twice on the same machine. One time it only detected max res of 1024x768 however it sucesfully loaded the fglrx drivers for my ati, the second time, no hardware change my max res increased but the loading of the fglrx driver wont work
[05:06] <Justi1> Does anyone know of any similar windows managers similar to beryl?
[05:07] <thinksInCode> before I formatted the partition with a filesystem, it was being recognized just fine, but after formatting it and rebooting, I get the error "usb 4-3: device not accepting address 4, error -71"
[05:07] <unagi> ok lets try killall x-session-manager....hows that sound
[05:07] <ant-> unagi, you can try 'killall -HUP gdm', but i dont think killall supports that option
[05:08] <unagi> what is hup
[05:08] <ant-> 'man kill'
[05:08] <ant-> its a different exit code
[05:08] <ant-> or something
[05:08] <RickH> Anyone use Bochs before?
[05:08] <jessie> thinksInCode, when you say that you created the primary patition, what filesystem?
[05:08] <thinksInCode> jessie: ext3
[05:08] <thinksInCode> mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb
[05:09] <jessie> well, wait. so basically you made the ext3 one twice?
[05:09] <thinksInCode> the weird part is, if I unplug and plug back in the drive, it works fine
[05:09] <J0HN> sorry to cut this short. i have to go.
[05:09] <rockets> Good ol' 3D acceleration.
[05:09] <jdstrand> ant-: killall does accept it, and HUP is a the hangup signal.  It usually causes a program to restart.  Depends on how the program is written
[05:09] <J0HN> thanks for the help. i'll definitely consider python w/ GTK
[05:09] <jessie> thinksInCode, * Create Linux primary partition (320 GB), reboot: Works, /dev/sdb and /dev/sdb1 are there
[05:09] <jessie> * Create ext3 filesystem, reboot: Doesn't work!"
[05:09] <unagi> ok
[05:09] <unagi> im going to try my script brb
[05:09] <Jordan_U> rockets, What got it working?
[05:09] <thinksInCode> right
[05:09] <ant-> jdstrand, good info, thanks
[05:09] <linuxgx_please> #emergencyexit
[05:09] <rockets> Jordan_U, I just told you!
[05:09] <J0HN> last question - any recommended IDEs for that setup (python and GTK)?
[05:09] <jessie> so you made a partition, then made another partition?
[05:09] <rockets> J0HN, gedit :-D
[05:09] <Catoptromancy> I need a shell to make a folder not in /root/  but it makes me use password? Anyone know how to bypass this?
[05:10] <jessie> sdb2?
[05:10] <thinksInCode> no, I created a filesystem on the partition I created
[05:10] <J0HN> i'm used to Visual Studio 2005, how does that compare to gedit?
[05:10] <thinksInCode> i used fdisk to create /dev/sdb1, then did mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb1
[05:10] <rockets> Catoptromancy, lots of system folders are protected. try sudo mkdir
[05:10] <Jordan_U> rockets, Oh, sorry, too many conversations at once :)
[05:10] <jessie> thinksInCode, well, did you happen to make the partition table?
[05:10] <systemd0wn> catoptromancy, /root isnt the only dir. that only ROOT can write to... just use "sudo"
[05:10] <Catoptromancy> rockets,  but I cant add "sudo" into a shell
[05:11] <RickH> quit
[05:11] <{-Billy-}> I'm looking to install Ubuntu on my system with Windows installed, i want to dual boot it. On the install menu in ubuntu, it asks me to partition the disk and it has three options. Which one should i pick?
[05:11] <Catoptromancy> I need to make an easy build script for anyone
[05:11] <jessie> if not, i recommend just using gpart
[05:11] <rockets> Catoptromancy, what do you mean "add it into a shell"
[05:11] <thinksInCode> jessie: yeah, I did "fdisk /dev/sdb", created a primary partition, hit 'w' to write it to disk
[05:11] <jessie> thinksInCode, is the partition table msdos or linux?
[05:11] <Zenji> Ah
[05:11] <jessie> ms dos has better support
[05:11] <thinksInCode> like I said - when the machine starts up, if I disconnect the USB drive and reconnect it, all is well
[05:11] <jdstrand> JOHN: gedit is a fancy text editor.  It is not an IDE.  you can try anjuta, glade or eclipse.  There is a qt one I can't think of too.
[05:11] <systemd0wn> catoptromancy, just have them type "sudo ./scriptname"
[05:11] <Zenji> Question here... Is it possible to voice chat with people using Yahoo?
[05:12] <jessie> thinksInCode, ok, yeah. thats not the problem.
[05:12] <unagi> interesting
[05:12] <biotrox> :(
[05:12] <rockets> systemd0wn, pwned :-D
[05:12] <biotrox> nobody wants to help me
[05:12] <Catoptromancy> systemd0wn, its not just for ubuntu, needs to universal
[05:12] <Justi1> For NDISwrapper, how do I determine the "letter" of my network card?
[05:12] <jessie> thinksInCode, can you post the output of "mount -a" and "cat /etc/fstab" (paste bin them please"
[05:12] <rockets> Justi1, huh?
[05:12] <Catoptromancy> sudo it debian/ubuntu only
[05:12] <Zenji> Biotrox it happens. Im a nub but whas your problem?
[05:12] <Catoptromancy> i think
[05:12] <rockets> Justi1, heres all you do with ndiswrapper
[05:12] <biotrox> aenji
[05:12] <ant-> unagi, did it work?
[05:12] <biotrox> my resolution
[05:12] <J0HN> thanks.
[05:12] <thinksInCode> jessie: I can, but I haven't even gotten as far as trying to mount the file system
[05:12] <thinksInCode> so I didn'
[05:12] <biotrox> sometimes 1280 x 1024
[05:12] <rockets> Justi1, ndiswrapper -i driver.inf
[05:12] <thinksInCode> didn't add anything to fstab
[05:12] <unagi> well x server did restart but i dont think its doing my xorgs right now
[05:12] <rockets> Justi1, ndiswrapper -m
[05:13] <systemd0wn> rockets :P
[05:13] <rockets> Justi1, reboot computer
[05:13] <biotrox> and sometimes 1024 x 768
[05:13] <rockets> Justi1, magic!
[05:13] <Zenji> It switches?
[05:13] <systemd0wn> catoptromancy, i thought the sudo command was universal...
[05:13] <astro76> Catoptromancy, they'll need root priveleges no matter what the distro/method before executing the script, if it has to write to priveleged locations, there's no way around it
[05:13] <unagi> wow
[05:13] <unagi> ok
[05:13] <Justi1> rockets: i don't need to download a driver for my dell card?
[05:13] <unagi> interesting
[05:13] <rockets> Justi1, you DO need to download the driver
[05:13] <reya276_> can someone help me properly install the ATI X1300 Drivers
[05:13] <unagi> apparently it did work but the compositing of ubuntu looks fine which it never does
[05:13] <Hyarion2> rockets, I was using ndiswrapper great on 6.10, but after upgrading to Fiesty it is dead, any ideas?
[05:13] <Catoptromancy> its just needs to make a folder in another folder, not in /root/
[05:13] <Catoptromancy> mkdir works without sudo
[05:13] <Zenji> See, if I were to help I would prolly tell you to edit xorg but I dont wanna be responsible for fucking up your Ubuntu cus im not too knowledgable on that..
[05:13] <rockets> Hyarion2, yeah, remove it, recompile it, and reinstall it
[05:13] <Catoptromancy> but only in bash directly
[05:14] <astro76> Catoptromancy, where?
[05:14] <Justi1> rockets: I am looking at the list of all the drivers, and im not sure what to look for since I'm not sure of the name of my card
[05:14] <rockets> Hyarion2, ndiswrapper creates kernel modues. therefore if you upgrade your kernel you need new kernel modules
[05:14] <Catoptromancy> brb ill pastebin
[05:14] <astro76> Catoptromancy, basically if it's outside of /home/user/, they need root
[05:14] <rockets> Justi1, i can help you with this easily, im going to message you
[05:14] <thinksInCode> jessie: also, mount -a gives no output
[05:14] <Hyarion2> rockets, okay I'll try that, thanks, do I need to use 1.9 or will 1.8 work?
[05:14] <Catoptromancy> astro76, its in /home/someonehome.
[05:14] <rockets> Hyarion2, ndiswrapper 1.8 vs 1.9? just use the newest one from sourceforge
[05:15] <rockets> Hyarion2, BEFORE you do make; make install, do make uninstall a few times
[05:15] <systemd0wn> catoptomancy, but is it the user thats running the script?
[05:15] <rockets> Hyarion2, with sudo of course
[05:15] <Catoptromancy> systemd0wn,  yes
[05:15] <rockets> Justi1, are you getting my message?
[05:15] <Hyarion2> rockets, okay, maybe I'll try 1.8 first, it's on the machine, and as I can't get internet to it 1.9 is tricky.
[05:15] <systemd0wn> catoptromancy, thats strange...
[05:15] <Catoptromancy> i just want it to mkdir from inside script
[05:15] <Justi1> rockets, yes
[05:15] <Zenji> Alright now for my problem. I want to talk to people who are using YAHOO Voice chat. Anyway I can?
[05:15] <astro76> let's see the pstebin
[05:15] <Justi1> rockets: I messeged you back
[05:15] <rockets> Hyarion2, newest ndiswrapper works fine with feisty
[05:15] <rockets> Hyarion2, using it now
[05:15] <astro76> Catoptromancy, let's see the pastebin
[05:15] <rockets> Justi1, well i didnt get it. are you registerd with nickserv?
[05:16] <Justi1> rockets: I don't think so
[05:16] <Catoptromancy> http://odamex.net/pastebin/?page=view&id=1184123765
[05:16] <rockets> Justi1, /msg nickserv register PASSWORDHERE
[05:16] <astro76> !register | Justi1
[05:16] <ubotu> Justi1: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[05:16] <astro76> Catoptromancy, so you want mkdir ~/oasvn/, not mkdir /oasvn/
[05:17] <rockets> Justi1, I'm not going to help you with ndiswrapper in main chat cuz its going to be a LOT of text
[05:17] <Catoptromancy> ohhhh
[05:17] <Catoptromancy> heh
[05:17] <Catoptromancy> tnx!
[05:17] <Zenji> Ok, this is a short problem, prolly can be answered in about 20 seconds.
[05:17] <rockets> Catoptromancy, if sudo ./script doesnt work then do sudo -i then run the script
[05:17] <Catoptromancy> I dont want root
[05:17] <systemd0wn> I am getting an error @ GRUB Loading stage1.5
[05:17] <Justi1> rockets: brb
[05:17] <someone2005> if I cp new software into the correct folders do I get a new version ?
[05:17] <thinksInCode> jessie: did I lose yah?
[05:17] <Catoptromancy> it should need root
[05:17] <rockets> Juhaz, k
[05:17] <systemd0wn> Error 21
[05:17] <Catoptromancy> shount
[05:17] <bruenig> !enter | Zenji
[05:17] <ubotu> Zenji: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:17] <systemd0wn> help?
[05:17] <Zenji> HOW can I talk to people using Yahoo Voice chat on Ubuntu????
[05:17] <rockets> Zenji, i think Kopete can handle that
[05:18] <bruenig> Zenji, you can't
[05:18] <Zenji> Which is right?
[05:18] <bruenig> I don't believe it can
[05:18] <rockets> bruenig, not even with kopete?
[05:18] <arang2> hi anyone would help me? i need to rearrange the GNOME system tray
[05:18] <Zenji> There is NO way?
[05:18] <rockets> Zenji, bruenig miught be right
[05:18] <bruenig> lets see google
[05:18] <rockets> Zenji, who cares. use skype :-P
[05:18] <preaction> Zenji: use skype, that works under linux
[05:18] <Zenji> Ok Rocket
[05:18] <Zenji> But I have friends who dont use that.
[05:18] <{-Billy-}> Im trying to  install ubuntu using the live cd. I would like to dual boot my drive with windows that i already have installed. On the "How do you want to partition your disk" screen, which option should i choose?
[05:18] <systemd0wn> rockets, exactly.
[05:18] <Zenji> I mean..
[05:18] <arang2> hi
[05:18] <preaction> Zenji: get them to start?
[05:18] <Zenji> No
[05:18] <rockets> Zenji, but they easily can.
[05:18] <Zenji> My one friend is stubborn.
[05:18] <Zenji> He talks to most people on Yahoo.
[05:19] <systemd0wn> zenji get new friends.
[05:19] <Zenji> Thats not helping :< Haha.
[05:19] <ubuntuEdgy> can any one help i cant start tftpd-hpa
[05:19] <systemd0wn> :)
[05:19] <rockets> Zenji, yahoo and skype run side by side just fine
[05:19] <greyhat> hi
[05:19] <Zenji> I cant believe no one made a Yahoo Voice Chat port.
[05:19] <ubuntuEdgy> invoke-rc.d: initscript tftpd-hpa, action "restart" failed.
[05:19] <Zenji> Really?
[05:19] <preaction> Zenji: then you're SOL. it's not GNU/Linux's fault that Yahoo refuses to support us. skype made their own software for linux
[05:19] <someone2005> I'd loose software abilitys though ?
[05:19] <rockets> Zenji, yes . . . on windows that is.
[05:19] <systemd0wn> QUESTION, error 21 in GRUB during stage 1.5
[05:19] <Zenji> :-|
[05:19] <arang2> guys anyone could help me with a GNOME problem? please?
[05:19] <rockets> Zenji, on ubuntu, gaim and skype run together just fine
[05:19] <Zenji> Well Preaction, they DO support it a bit.
[05:19] <as> HI
[05:19] <bruenig> google says no voice chat in kopete
[05:20] <Zenji> They have a version of Yahoo for linux but no voice chat.
[05:20] <bruenig> Zenji, it is pretty hard, you should give it a try
[05:20] <xoRock> i love ubuntu
[05:20] <preaction> Zenji: no, they made us hack our own :p then they magically came up with one
[05:20] <ubuntuEdgy> me too
[05:20] <cacophony> yes
[05:20] <cacophony> ubuntu is awesome
[05:20] <Zenji> Ah.
[05:20] <Zenji> Haha.
[05:20] <greyhat> :P
[05:20] <Zenji> I know porting is hard but it seems like something highly in demand (Yahoo Voice Chat)
[05:21] <ziroday> Zenji: not really
[05:21] <{-Billy-}> Im trying to  install ubuntu using the live cd. I would like to dual boot my drive with windows that i already have installed. On the "How do you want to partition your disk" screen, which option should i choose?
[05:21] <bruenig> Zenji, yeah not so much
[05:21] <Zenji> Someone on a forum said that Yahoo Voice chat uses something common..
[05:21] <Zenji> ...for voice chat.
[05:21] <cacophony> {-Billy-}, if that is your real name
[05:21] <Catoptromancy> hmmm
[05:21] <Zenji> Forgot what it was called.
[05:21] <cacophony> you need to resize your windows partition first
[05:21] <Catoptromancy> Wish i could voice in yahoo
[05:21] <bruenig> Zenji, that is nonsense, yahoo would not use something common, in fact they have changed their code on occasion just to screw with third party clients
[05:21] <ziroday> {-Billy-}: you should split it the hard drive in two
[05:21] <cacophony> you aren't supposed to install windows before partitioning
[05:21] <Zenji> But he said it should be easy to get voice chat on Yahoo.
[05:21] <thinksInCode> .........ok, then, anyone else able to help me? i seem to have lost jessie
[05:22] <rockets> Zenji, Who did, your friend? Does your friend run ubuntu? Exactley.
[05:22] <dr_willis> Zenji,   problem is that yahoo may do somthing to puropsly break it  in any clones.
[05:22] <Zenji> Ah I see.
[05:22] <Zenji> Not my friend.
[05:22] <Zenji> Rockets
[05:22] <Zenji> I never said that.
[05:22] <dr_willis> does GAIM support yahoo voice chat? or pidgen..
[05:22] <Zenji> Just on a forum during discussion...
[05:22] <bruenig> dr_willis, no, nothing does
[05:22] <greyhat> where all u guys from?
[05:22] <Zenji> ...so chill.
[05:22] <Zenji> Im looking for it.
[05:22] <dr_willis> bruenig,   personally i hate yahoo chat. :) heh heh...
[05:22] <Zenji> Sorry I keep forgetting to not short hand on this channel. I apologise.
[05:23] <bruenig> dr_willis, I saw something a while back it was some java thing that was probably the ugliest thing I had ever seen that said it did, but I didn't believe it and didn't really mess with it
[05:23] <Zenji> I do too Dr_Willis but my friends use it and wont switch.
[05:23] <dr_willis> Zenji,  just msg them. :) thats what IM is for. :)
[05:23] <thinksInCode> Anyone??
[05:23] <Zenji> They are too lazy too!
[05:23] <bruenig> oh here it is: http://www.phrozensmoke.com/projects/pyvoicechat/
[05:23] <bruenig> that thing says it does
[05:23] <Zenji> Theyll all just voice conference and not type. Ugh.
[05:23] <dr_willis> TeamSpeak is good for voice chatting :)
[05:23] <rockets> Zenji, Chill? Chill!? This is sparta!
[05:24] <loco_aullador> hi i cant what you tube videos in my laptop, i've installed the codecs for mozilla and swiftfox using automatix and i've installed also mozilla-plugin-gnash and swf-player but im still not able to watch youtube, whatelse can i do
[05:24] <Zenji> Lies. This is 21st century fox.
[05:24] <Zenji> !Summon fishbot
[05:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about summon fishbot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:24] <dr_willis> loco_aullador,  you need to install flash. Not the codecs
[05:24] <dr_willis> !flash
[05:24] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[05:24] <RabidWeezle> hey, I'm having an issue where I can access irc and stuff like that, but I can't view websites in firefox or lynx. I am running over a wireless router
[05:24] <greyhat> !spanish
[05:24] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:24] <Zenji> Oh heres a real brain buster for you guys... Ive been here once before and no one can figure it out.
[05:24] <arang2> anyone could help me with a GNOME nautilus program?
[05:25] <bruenig> !enter | Zenji
[05:25] <ubotu> Zenji: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:25] <bruenig> !anyone | arang2
[05:25] <ubotu> arang2: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:25] <tego> wanna know site or link show movies  or vedio for learn for ubuntu
[05:25] <loco_aullador> dr_willis, sorry i meant the pack in the automatix
[05:25] <ziroday> tego: we know thank you
[05:25] <arang2> anyone could help me with a GNOME nautilus problem
[05:25] <ziroday> !automatix | loco_aullador
[05:25] <ubotu> loco_aullador: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:25] <bruenig> !anyone | arang2
[05:25] <ubotu> arang2: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:25] <cacophony> bruenig: thats dumb, though.
[05:25] <dr_willis> loco_aullador,  no idea what automatix does these days.. i dont use it - or suggest using it.
[05:25] <cacophony> bruenig: why ask the question if you're not sure anybody will answer it?
[05:26] <Zenji> Im using a sound card... I have a Dell Dimension E510... Problem is. I can only use the sound for one program only.
[05:26] <arang2> ubotu ok
[05:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:26] <dr_willis> loco_aullador,  but for youtube to work - you need the flash stuff I belive.
[05:26] <bruenig> cacophony, why not?
[05:26] <cacophony> the reason why people ask if anybody is around to help them first is so they can confirm that they will recieve help instead of just talking to nobody
[05:26] <RabidWeezle> Has anyone had this network problem where they can connect to things like irc, and games, but can't access any websites like google???
[05:26] <bruenig> cacophony, if they just throw the problem out then everyone can read it
[05:26] <dr_willis> RabidWeezle,  i see that a few times.. it was a firefox plugin issue.
[05:26] <bruenig> cacophony, it increases their odds
[05:26] <arang2> does anyone know how to fix this problem?: i can access windows shares in other computers copy and paste files, but when i try to open an mp3 file in totem or xmms they just close (they work fine with local hard disks)
[05:26] <bruenig> whereas if they specialize it to one person it doesn't
[05:27] <RabidWeezle> dr_willis, but it does it for me in lynx too
[05:27] <thinksInCode> i guess jessie gave up on me
[05:27] <dr_willis> RabidWeezle,  or so ive gathered from others with the issue.   at leat that helped someone out in htere the other day
[05:27] <Zenji> So does anyone know how to get Ubuntu to stop cutting off sound when something else is using it? I get the error "Sound driver in use.".
[05:27] <mcfisherP> i'd like to install Citrix but it said OpenMotif is required first.. how should i best install that?
[05:27] <neozen> how does one make an application start always on top?
[05:27] <jessie> thinksInCode, nope. just workin on my eagle project for scouts.
[05:27] <jessie> did you pastebin it?
[05:27] <bruenig> Zenji, sounds like you are using oss instead of alsa
[05:27] <RabidWeezle> dr_willis, but firefox has nothing to do with lynx
[05:27] <loco_aullador> dr_willis, but ive installed swf_player and mozzilla-plugin-gnash well and the sun java package with synaptic...i though i could watch youtube with that
[05:27] <thinksInCode> jessie: there's nothing to pastebin
[05:28] <thinksInCode> i don't have anything for this drive in /etc/fstab, and mount -a gives me no output
[05:28] <bruenig> loco_aullador, remove swf player, remove mozilla plugin gnash, and install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:28] <jessie> did you do "cat /etc/fstab"
[05:28] <thinksInCode> it's a problem with even recognizing the drive and making /dev/sdb appear
[05:28] <Zenji> How do I switch bruenig. Someone told me to switch and I did so... but maybe I did it wrong.
[05:28] <jessie> no, no no. you must have something in fstab.
[05:28] <loco_aullador> bruenig, ok thanx
[05:28] <jessie> just pastebin it anyways.
[05:28] <bruenig> !sound | Zenji
[05:28] <ubotu> Zenji: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:28] <thinksInCode> jessie: ok
[05:28] <dr_willis> RabidWeezle,  no idea then.. try opera, or some other browsers.. ive seen several peopl;e having similer issue. bu tnever found a definitive answer for taht.
[05:28] <Zenji> That hasnt helped.
[05:28] <RabidWeezle> I did
[05:28] <Zenji> I google everything before coming here bruenig.
[05:28] <Megatron> i am using gaim messenger, where can i choose a display pic?
[05:28] <RabidWeezle> lynx IS another browser
[05:28] <bruenig> Zenji, what apps are you using
[05:29] <Zenji> Everything does it.
[05:29] <mcfisherP> exit
[05:29] <bruenig> Zenji, ubuntu is poorly documented so it is no surprise that you wouldn't find something
[05:29] <bruenig> !ops |
[05:29] <ubotu> : Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[05:29] <KucfnlXkVu> Rucas - Dongs-Hojrup, Denmark
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[05:29] <fzoGeYdMz> Ten-thousand Freenet User Identities Compromised
[05:29] <DXHxBoIq> Arrests are expected to begin within the week.
[05:29] <ckrHAVXHEH> After DiKKy collapsed in a pool of his own filth, GNAA Security officer supers made the following statement, "Once we were able to trace which IPs had been uploading child pornography to the network (which in the end turned out to be every host that had ever connected to the network,) we were able to remove every IP controlled by our leader, timecop, from our compiled database and submit the remaining information to the Department of Justice. Fags."
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[05:29] <thinksInCode> jessie: http://pastebin.com/m55945f2
[05:29] <nixternal> !staff
[05:29] <ubotu> Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, BearPerson or ompaul! I could use a bit of your time :)
[05:30] <RabidWeezle> oh my
[05:30] <gmu_ninja> can any samba expert help my with my server crashes?  in #ubuntu-classroom, please
[05:30] <gmu_ninja> :-)
[05:30] <Nutubuntu> what was *that*?
[05:31] <bruenig> an attack obviously
[05:31] <RabidWeezle> looks like a bunch of #$@ #*($$#$@
[05:31] <RabidWeezle> I mean, trolls
[05:31] <macogw> bruenig: http://www.garfieldtech.com/blog/your-debian-aptitude
[05:31] <elkbuntu> Nutubuntu, someone with too much time on their hands, and not enough respect for other people
[05:32] <neozen> macogw: so how'd you meet larry?
[05:32] <nixternal> towlieba: you are wasting your time with the bans unfortunately
[05:32] <nixternal> hrmm
[05:32] <macogw> neozen: who?
[05:32] <nixternal> towlieba: sorry about that
[05:32] <RabidWeezle> probly lives in his momma's basement eating hot pockets getting fat, not showering, and wondering why no girl wants him
[05:32] <nixternal> RabidWeezle: how do you know that about me?
[05:32] <RabidWeezle> loll
[05:32] <neozen> macogw: guy who wrote that and owns that site
[05:33] <neozen> macogw: he's in my lug
[05:33] <tonyyarusso> nixternal: Partially at least, certainly.  First ones were gut reaction, now seeing if any might be the sort that could help (or just shouldn't be here anyway)
[05:33] <neozen> macogw: or the lug I went to anyway... (just graduated)
[05:33] <nixternal> tonyyarusso: nalioth just posted klined in ops
[05:33] <Zenji> Testing
[05:33] <Zenji> Alright.
[05:33] <tonyyarusso> nixternal: kk
[05:33] <nixternal> sorry everyone for that!
[05:33] <jessie> thinksInCode, ok, now ill edit it and you copy paste it back in, after making a backup that is.
[05:33] <macogw> neozen: i dont know him. bruenig and i were talking about aptitude v apt-get yesterday
[05:33] <thinksInCode> jessie: ok
[05:33] <neozen> macogw: ah
[05:34] <nixternal> NOTE: If you are not a registered freenode user and want would like to avoid what just happened, I recommend that you register with Freenode at this time. Thank you!
[05:34] <Zenji> So anyway Bruenig. I wouldnt have much of a problem only using sound on one program... But even AFTER I shut down said program, I can not use sound on anything else..
[05:34] <nixternal> !register
[05:34] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[05:34] <neozen> macogw: I happen to like aptitude on the command line over apt-get
[05:34] <numus> anyone used remote desktop on ubuntu and realvnc on a windows machine and were able to get the screen to refresh on realvnc?
[05:34] <bruenig> macogw, ok so he basically likes the names better, that is it
[05:34] <numus> or vnc from windows into linux with any sucess
[05:34] <bruenig> macogw, his dependency claim is flat out wrong
[05:34] <Nutubuntu> nixternal,  how does that help? feel free to msg me; it's probably offtopic
[05:34] <bruenig> macogw, presumably this is the reason: 19 August 2005 - 9:16pm  Larry
[05:34] <neozen> numus: x11vnc
[05:34] <numus> the mouse is moving on realvnc when i move it on linux.. i can see that on the screen but the rest of the screen wont update
[05:34] <Zenji> Now, even if I log out and back on, AND even if I kill the Alsa and restart it, my sound ceases to work.
[05:34] <macogw> bruenig: yeah i thought the names thing was lame too, what's the date to do with it?
[05:34] <RabidWeezle> now since the drama is over, DOES anyone know anything about networking that would cause me to not access websites in *ANY* browser?
[05:34] <lite-X> hello to the great world i have this problem i am new to ubuntu i got window xp on this system but i want 2 O/S on this computer but when i try to install it dont give me my h/d names it gives some other names and also it giv me a root problem
[05:35] <Alives> how do i tell upstart to only do runlevel 3?
[05:35] <neozen> numus: oh wait... you mean connect to a vnc server with a client on linux?
[05:35] <nixternal> Nutubuntu: when I do +rR for the channel, you will still be able to talk, whereas people who aren't registered (aka spambots) aren't allowed to speak or join the channel during that time
[05:35] <bodmerocity> lol, did any of you guys actually read all that spam? it was pretty hilarious
[05:35] <numus> no
[05:35] <numus> other way
[05:35] <numus> linux be the server
[05:35] <bruenig> macogw, names, the search results are justified and in alpha order, those are his advantages
[05:35] <Nutubuntu> Ah, I see ... t/y nixternal
[05:36] <numus> neozen i use hamachi for a vpn.. and i was using remote desktop as the vnc server.. i could log in but it wont update the screen on teh realvnc client on my other computers
[05:36] <neozen> RabidWeezle: all outgoing connections to any server on remote port 80 would be blocked in the firewall perhaps
[05:36] <arang2> does anyone know how to fix this problem?: i can access windows shares in other computers copy and paste files, but when i try to open an mp3 file in totem or xmms they just close (they work fine with local hard disks)
[05:36] <bruenig> macogw, those are cosmetic at best, they certainly don't justify the kind of aptitude schilling we see in here
[05:37] <lite-X> can someone help me with my problem thanks
[05:37] <bruenig> !ops
[05:37] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[05:37] <lite-X> hello to the great world i have this problem i am new to ubuntu i got window xp on this system but i want 2 O/S on this computer but when i try to install it dont give me my h/d names it gives some other names and also it giv me a root problem
[05:37] <nixternal> hehe
[05:37] <RabidWeezle> neozen, it kinda kicks in and out
[05:37] <nixternal> bruenig: great eye on that one!
[05:37] <RabidWeezle> got 3 pc's on the router with only net use being secondlife being run
[05:38] <RabidWeezle> what a bunch of morons
[05:38] <macogw> bruenig: well since i just saw the aptitude thing being said on the forums i replied asking if the person had a reliable (with the phrase "no blogs, official documentation only") source for that assertion since i'm being told it's wrong
[05:38] <RabidWeezle> not you
[05:38] <RickH> lite-X:  Like, instead of making equal partitions of 40GB each, make one of them 39?
[05:38] <numus> neozen it works like th other vnc.. it doesn't update the screen on the client
[05:38] <arunan> hi
[05:38] <pppoe_dude> RabidWeezle, s/bunch of// s/morons/moron :)
[05:38] <lite-X> i have
[05:38] <RabidWeezle> oh
[05:39] <RickH> lite-X:  Then there you go.
[05:39] <RabidWeezle> dialup user?
[05:39] <RickH> lite-X:  What is the problem then?
[05:39] <Alives> my motd displays twice on login... how can i fix this?
[05:39] <bruenig> macogw, 2 years ago or so, aptitude has dependency removal, apt-get did not, that drives people to say it is better even thought it is no longer the case
[05:39] <bruenig> had*
[05:39] <neozen> RabidWeezle: can you ping the remote servers that you're trying to access WHILE you are unable to access the site
[05:39] <lite-X> i get a root problem
[05:39] <RickH> lite-X:  The root problem can be fixed by mounting to "/" rather than "/mount/hda1", etc.
[05:39] <lite-X> i have to set the root or somthing
[05:39] <RabidWeezle> donno, will have to wait for it to conc out again
[05:39] <RabidWeezle> :/
[05:40] <RickH> lite-X:  Also, change it to file type Ext2 or Ext3.
[05:40] <macogw> bruenig: i see
[05:40] <RickH> lite-X:  Or FATxx, but not NTFS.
[05:40] <macogw> bruenig: so at one point it was true, but not anymore?
[05:40] <bruenig> macogw, that's why all the threads and such you see will be dated 2005 generally
[05:40] <lite-X> o
[05:40] <bruenig> macogw, right
[05:40] <lite-X> ok
[05:40] <neozen> bruenig: O.o... apt-get is two-way now..... GOOD
[05:40] <lite-X> what do you mean bout the root problem
[05:40] <panik> Ican't upgrade from 6.1 to 7.04
[05:40] <lite-X> rickh
[05:41] <RickH> Anyone know of a GUI wrapper for Bochs?
[05:41] <Jmax> neozen: two way?
[05:41] <RickH> lite-X:  Are you talking about the root problem during the Feisty Fawn install from the Live CD?
[05:41] <RickH> lite-X:  Or are you talking about a root (superuser) problem?
[05:42] <neozen> Jmax: install A which depends on B ... remove A it removes B as well... as long as nothing else currently depends on B
[05:42] <lite-X> when i press that icon install
[05:42] <lite-X> and then make partion
[05:42] <lite-X> ask for a root
[05:42] <lite-X> but i dont get what it means
[05:42] <RickH> lite-X:  Right.  Okay, when you double-click on the drive you want to install to, one of the input boxes will say "/mount/something".  Change it to "/" and that solves it.
[05:42] <Alives> my motd displays twice on login... how can i fix this?
[05:42] <Jmax> neozen: oh, it removes orphans?
[05:42] <sn4cks> what's the command for uninstalling things? for example, i apt-get'ed beryl but it messed up and i dont want it anymore.
[05:42] <Jmax> Alives: check profile files, login files, and shell's rc files
[05:43] <Alives> sn4cks: apt-get remove
[05:43] <neozen> Jmax: I believe that's what bruenig just said
[05:43] <RickH> lite-X:  I had the same problem.  It seemed weird too.  During install it will add "/target" to your screen.
[05:43] <Alives> sn4cks: man apt-get
[05:43] <Alives> sn4cks: man apt
[05:43] <RabidWeezle> sn4cks, then apt-takeitback!
[05:43] <Jmax> neozen: I see :)
[05:43] <Alives> ah cool
[05:43] <Alives> thanks Jmax
[05:43] <sn4cks> ah, there is an apt-get for it. thanks guys haha
[05:43] <RickH> lite-X:  your dual-boot will work properly because GRUB will load with an "other operating system" option which will then go to your previous OS or boot loader
[05:43] <neozen> Jmax: I could be wrong
[05:43] <Jmax> heh
[05:43] <RickH> lite-X:  BTW, I assume you're doing manual partitioning, right? :)
[05:44] <lite-X> yes
[05:44] <lite-X> yes richkh
[05:44] <sn4cks> ooo, and apt-get autoremove is fun times too
[05:44] <RickH> lite-X:  Try that.  change the "/mount/sda1" or whatever it is to just "/"
[05:44] <Alives> Jmax: how do i find shell's autoremove files?
[05:44] <RickH> That will solve your root problem.
[05:44] <lite-X> ok
[05:44] <RickH> lite-X:  Also, make sure it's not NTFS.
[05:44] <RickH> lite-X:  Also, I did not setup a swap file for my system.  It works just fine without one.
[05:44] <lite-X> also do i install it at the beging or when it starts
[05:44] <Eugene12> Hi guys! is it the right place to ask for a help with suspend  issues on laptop?
[05:45] <lite-X> ok richkh
[05:45] <RickH> lite-X:  I have 2 GB of memory, but Ubuntu has never taken more than a few hundred MB.
[05:45] <lite-X> nice
[05:45] <lite-X> i will try richkh
[05:45] <lite-X> that
[05:45] <lite-X> now
[05:45] <sn4cks> Eugene12: what i can do off-hand is not make you feel alone. i too suffer from suspend issues, but on my desktop
[05:45] <lite-X> thanks loads
[05:45] <RickH> lite-X:  I installed it after it loads fromt he live CD.
[05:45] <lite-X> for helping me
[05:45] <RickH> lite-X:  np
[05:45] <lite-X> out
[05:45] <panik> $ gksu "update-manager -c" Will this update it to the current release?
[05:45] <bruenig> !upgrade | panik
[05:45] <ubotu> panik: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:45] <lite-X> i wos installing it before it loads the lve cd richkh
[05:45] <Eugene12> doesn't sound optimistic ;)
[05:46] <neozen> Eugene12: suspend blows
[05:46] <thinksInCode> jessie: what did you change?
[05:46] <wifenfeffer> why does SSH not show up in the ubuntu avahi zeroconf listing ?
[05:46] <neozen> Eugene12: I never bothered getting it working on my thinkpad
[05:46] <RickH> lite-X:  I haven't tried that way.
[05:46] <jessie> thinksInCode, nothing yet. still working on it. got distracted (girl friend)
[05:46] <sn4cks> Eugene12: I haven't solved it yet, but I'd assume you'd find a solution at the forums. http://ubuntuforums.org
[05:46] <RickH> lite-X:  The GUI for double-clicking the install icon was very straight-forward.
[05:46] <Eugene12> neozen: in my case it wakes up by itself :)
[05:46] <RickH> lite-X:  It might be worth trying it that way.
[05:46] <oga1> I'm currently using Fiesty and have been playing around with my wifi settings to get WPA to work i'm totally stumped anybody with knowledge would be appreciated
[05:47] <neozen> Eugene12: hmmm.....
[05:47] <thinksInCode> jessie: oh ok :)
[05:47] <lite-X> thanks ricckh
[05:47] <sn4cks> ogal: sometimes it just matters what kind of card you have.
[05:47] <lite-X> :)
[05:47] <lite-X> cya in abit
[05:47] <TIRC_1270> hi to all
[05:47] <RickH> lite-X:  np.  Good luck! :)
[05:47] <neozen> Eugene12: does everything come back up ok? no things going boom?
[05:47] <sn4cks> ogal: some of the less-used one don't work properly because of driver issues or what-have-you
[05:47] <RickH> neozen:  Firefly fan? :)
[05:47] <sn4cks> ogal: less used ones**
[05:47] <oga1> sn4cks linksys wmp54g v4.1
[05:48] <syntaxx> i added alias in one of my interface however i cant ping using the alias ip what seems to be the problem?
[05:48] <darwin81> How can I figure out what my IP address is within my own LAN?
[05:48] <TIRC_1270> when i try to log into a session my x server restarts like when i restart it with "ctrl+alt+backspace" what can i do please
[05:48] <sn4cks> ogal: if you were to check out the forums, or with google try a search for 'linksys wmp54g ubuntu'
[05:48] <Eugene12> sn4cks:neozen - First X-server blows but I figured this issue. Still Wifi doesn't comes up
[05:48] <oga1> sn4cks the wifi detects available networks but when i go to connect there is no WPA option just WEP
[05:48] <oga1> sn4cks been trying for an hour or two now
[05:48] <neozen> RickH: indeed... how'd you guess
[05:48] <sn4cks> ogal: that actually sounds like a weird software issue then
[05:48] <numus> has anyone gotten remote desktop to work with a windows client like realvnc?
[05:48] <Spark> why would hd* not be in /dev
[05:49] <jessie> http://pastebin.com/m2bba555f, thinksInCode
[05:49] <sn4cks> ogal: IMO
[05:49] <Jordan_U> TIRC_1270, What if anything did you do before this started happening?
[05:49] <RickH> neozen:  The "boom" reference... classic Jayne. :)
[05:49] <sn4cks> ogal: are you using the included WAP/WEP software to connect? and which one?
[05:49] <nextse7en> I've downloaded and extracted winsetools, when I nav to the dir, and type install.sh, I get a command not found error, how do I install?
[05:49] <Spark> i've just upgraded to feisty from edgy, and on booting to the new kernel fsck is complaining about the lack of /dev/hda1
[05:49] <RabidWeezle> hrm
[05:49] <Spark> it's not there
[05:49] <chadeldridge> Can anyone suggest a temperature and fan speed monitor for ubuntu?
[05:49] <Spark> udev is loaded
[05:49] <Spark> so why wouldn't it be there
[05:49] <RabidWeezle> I can ping google, but I can't goto the site...
[05:49] <RabidWeezle> wtf?!?!?!
[05:49] <Jordan_U> nextse7en, ./install.sh
[05:49] <neozen> RickH: well... classic me... but hey... who knew jayne used it too
[05:49] <nextse7en> Thanks much.
[05:49] <sn4cks> nextse7en: are you typing 'install.sh' or './install.sh'?
[05:49] <dr_willis> RabidWeezle,  try http:// the ip# of google
[05:49] <nextse7en> just install.sh
[05:50] <TIRC_1270> Jordan_U : i installed desktop-effects that i removed now and sabayon for gnome
[05:50] <Spark> the system is unbootable without /dev/hd*, funnily enough
[05:50] <neozen> RickH: I just use it as a general expression for things going wrong .... very very wrong
[05:50] <sn4cks> nextse7en: try ./install.sh
[05:50] <sn4cks> well actually
[05:50] <RabidWeezle> now google loads...
[05:50] <Nutubuntu> darwin81,  I'm not sure what you're asking. 'ifconfig' will display your address ... is that what you meant?
[05:50] <RabidWeezle> wtf is this
[05:50] <sn4cks> do an 'ls'
[05:50] <sn4cks> to see if it's executable
[05:50] <Spark> i don't know how udev decides to populate /dev, and why it would decided not to bother with hda,b,c,d etc
[05:50] <sn4cks> i don't know what .sh's are for
[05:50] <oga1> sn4cks as far as i know i'm using wpasupplicant i've tryed following a few guides online and editing /etc/network/interfaces manually and also using the standard networking tools
[05:50] <Jordan_U> TIRC_1270, What do you mean by " and sbayon for gnome" ?
[05:50] <sn4cks> but usually when trying to execute something you have to actually ./ before the file
[05:50] <RickH> neozen:  Yup.  One of his better lines from Serenity (movie):  "All right, let's move these crates back there for cover.  Make sure they ain't filled with nothing goes boom."
[05:51] <RickH> neozen:  Got it.
[05:51] <sn4cks> ogal: have you tried using a different application for it?
[05:51] <chadeldridge>  Can anyone suggest a temperature and fan speed monitor for ubuntu?
[05:51] <jessie> sn4cks, sh is a shell executable
[05:51] <dmb> is there a text configuration utility for hostname and domain name of a box?
[05:51] <TIRC_1270> Jordan_U : it was a tool i found in synaptic called sabayon. it was for gnome like system settings for kde
[05:51] <sn4cks> ogal: could just be an issue with that program specifically
[05:51] <sn4cks> jessie: ah, answers that questions for me finally! thanks mate
[05:51] <Eugene12> Looks like this still gonna be an issue :(
[05:52] <MajorPoopyPants> does the ubuntu install cd have ssh enabled on it by default?
[05:52] <jessie> sn4cks, if you run sh path/to/.sh it will run/install it too.
[05:52] <Jordan_U> MajorPayne, No
[05:52] <neozen> Eugene12: well.... have you tried bringing networking down then back up on resume from standby?
[05:52] <MajorPoopyPants> wAH
[05:52] <oga1> sn4cks any advise on what to use i'd try anything
[05:52] <sn4cks> jessie: do you have to chmod +x to make it executable or is it automatic?
[05:52] <Jordan_U> MajorPayne, sudo apt-get install ssh
[05:52] <RickH> chadeldridge:  Try xmbmon.  According to Synaptic it "allows you to monitor hardware status using your motherboard's sensors"
[05:52] <thinksInCode> jessie: but my problem is, since the drive isn't recognized right (and I get that error), /dev/sdb does not exist after I reboot!
[05:53] <Jordan_U> MajorPayne, Ubuntu doesn't listen for anything by default, for security reasons
[05:53] <xTaJMoX> I dont understand why anyone needs to use standby or hibernate on a desktop... except for global warming
[05:53] <sn4cks> ogal: i haven't used a whole lot of different ones. lemme see what my default is, i know it works. gimme a sec
[05:53] <jessie> thinksInCode, oh. well then i got nothin.
[05:53] <Spark> i don't see why i don't have any ide devices in /dev
[05:53] <Spark> it's ridiculous
[05:53] <Eugene12> neozen: So far I'm trying to figure out why the PC wakes from suspend - I think it might broke things like WIFI. It happens in second or so after PC suspends
[05:53] <panik> thanx
[05:53] <xTaJMoX> Spark: sda or hda are ide devices
[05:53] <chadeldridge> RickH:  thanks
[05:54] <Spark> xTaJMoX: sda are there, just not hda
[05:54] <neozen> dmb: I just edit /etc/hostname and the correct entry in /etc/hosts
[05:54] <Jordan_U> TIRC_1270, Try logging in in fail safe mode.
[05:54] <neozen> Eugene12: strange.....
[05:54] <ubuntu> can someone please tell me why it is that when i run wow now after setting it to openGL it tells me that it was not able to start 3D acceleration
[05:54] <neozen> Eugene12: something must be waking it up...
[05:54] <RickH> chadeldridge:  Just installed it myself.  Works perfectly.  Run "sudo xmbmon" after install.
[05:54] <Spark> what the fuck, sda1 is the new hda1?
[05:54] <thinksInCode> it just says this at bootup: "device not accepting address 4, error -71"
[05:54] <neozen> Eugene12: your screensaver perhaps?
[05:55] <Eugene12> neozen: Hmm! Idea!
[05:55] <RickH> Spark:  I was told language is something to watch in this channel.
[05:55] <neozen> Eugene12: cron even?
[05:55] <thinksInCode> but if I turn the USB drive off then on again, it comes up and then /dev/sdb is there
[05:55] <neozen> Eugene12: I know that runs every 5 min or so
[05:55] <chadeldridge> RickH:  yeah .. i get "No hardware monitor found"
[05:55] <dr_willis> Spark,  thats  due to the libata changes I think. no more hda/hdb all sd## soon (if not now)
[05:55] <Spark> couldn't they have waited for a major version to break compatibility
[05:55] <Spark> i despair sometimes
[05:55] <RickH> chadeldridge:  (I have a hard time typing your nick)...  How old is your mobo?
[05:55] <thinksInCode> incidentally, this doesn't seem ubuntu specific because it does the same thing with fedora.
[05:56] <numus> figures.. compiz-fusion was causing vnc not to work
[05:56] <Spark> or just keep the old names around to allow an upgrade path
[05:56] <Jordan_U> Spark, That is one of the reasons that they use UUID's now :)
[05:56] <RickH> Spark:  You're free to download the old version, compile it yourself and go from there. :)
[05:56] <dr_willis> Spark,  to be honest with ya.. My systems havent changed... and with uuid's it dosnet matter.. and theres some boot time optionto make it act the old way
[05:56] <asaup> when i try to log into a session my x server restarts like when i restart it with "ctrl+alt+backspace" what can i do please
[05:56] <neozen> Eugene12: but neither of those should be waking up your computer from suspend if it has TRULY gone into suspend mode
[05:56] <cotyrothery> can someone please tell me why it is that when i run wow now after setting it to openGL it tells me that it was not able to start 3D acceleration
[05:56] <chadeldridge> RickH:  less than a year old ... Dell Inspiron XPS Gen2 laptop
[05:56] <Spark> i guess i should be using uuids
[05:56] <neozen> numus: you never mentioned compiz on the box
[05:57] <Jordan_U> asaup, , Try logging in in fail safe mode.
[05:57] <RickH> chadeldridge:  Don't know then.  Mine is ASUS.  It's showing CPU temps that are actually about 5C less than what I was seeing in Windows.
[05:57] <neozen> numus: tends to make many things break
[05:57] <Eugene12> neozen: Looks like it does go into suspend- power led blinks like it's sleeping for a second or so and than boom - wakeup!
[05:57] <chadeldridge> RickH:  i can monitor all the sensors in windows and adjust fan speeds .. so i know they are all there, must just not be able to see the dell sensors
[05:57] <numus> neozen sorry about that.. ya.. that caused vnc visual to break.. but input still worked
[05:57] <thinksInCode> so nobody knows what might be causing this?
[05:57] <chadeldridge> ill keep playing trying to find something
[05:57] <reya276> can someone help me re-install my ATI drivers, I have tried everything but they are all messed up
[05:57] <sn4cks> ogal: i can't find it all of a sudden! it's possible that i didn't re-install after i did the OS re-install
[05:57] <Spark> chadeldridge: play with lm-sensors
[05:57] <cotyrothery> can someone please tell me why it is that when i run wow now after setting it to openGL it tells me that it was not able to start 3D acceleration
[05:57] <RickH> chadeldridge:  Yup.  Most likely it's not reading the right ports.
[05:57] <xTaJMoX> Spark : did you recently install an IDE controller or something?
[05:57] <Spark> chadeldridge: if you can set that up and get sensible values out of it then you're half way there
[05:57] <chadeldridge> Spark:  ill try that
[05:58] <RickH> Search for "fan speed" in Synaptic and see if any of the other ones might work.
[05:58] <Spark> xTaJMoX: i just dist-upgraded that's all
[05:58] <neozen> thinksInCode: I'll bite... what's your issue?
[05:58] <Spark> kernel 2.6.17 to 2.6.20
[05:58] <sn4cks> ogal: the forums might have your answer. thats the best i can tell you dude, sorry
[05:58] <Jordan_U> Spark, Dist-upgraded as in through update-manager?
[05:58] <cotyrothery> God could someone please tell me why i cant get 3d acceleration to work with openGL
[05:58] <thinksInCode> neozen: I have an external USB hard drive that does not get initialized right when my system starts up
[05:58] <Spark> i just did apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:58] <Jordan_U> Spark, That is not the correct way to upgrade
[05:59] <Spark> why does it exist then?
[05:59] <Jordan_U> Spark, And is likely why things are broken
[05:59] <thinksInCode> neozen: instead, I see this in my log: usb 4-3: device not accepting address 14, error -71
[05:59] <numus> neozen you know what the command to turn compizfusion off is in terminal
[05:59] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | Spark
[05:59] <ubotu> Spark: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:59] <cotyrothery> I keep getting an error when i have wow set to openGL that 3D acceleration faild
[05:59] <RickH> What's the linux command to list a text file to the terminal?  Like "type" in DOS?
[05:59] <thinksInCode> and this, before it: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 14
[05:59] <xTaJMoX> RickH Yeah my cpu runs about 7C cooler in Linux
[05:59] <xTaJMoX> RickH - cat
[05:59] <thinksInCode> RickH: cat
[05:59] <RickH> xTaJMoX:  That's awesome. :)
[05:59] <RickH> thanks
[05:59] <cotyrothery> can anyone see what im typing
[05:59] <neozen> RickH: cat
[05:59] <Jordan_U> cotyrothery, No
[05:59] <RickH> cotyrothery:  Nope. :P
[06:00] <neozen> cotyrothery: aye .. we see what you're typing
[06:00] <cotyrothery> LOL
[06:00] <cotyrothery> well then can you anwser my question
[06:00] <xTaJMoX> RickH: also try less - so you can scroll up and down
[06:00] <thinksInCode> neozen: the bizarre thing is, it worked just fine before I created a filesystem on it
[06:00] <thinksInCode> neozen: it was initialized as /dev/sdb
[06:00] <astro76> cotyrothery, maybe no one knows?
[06:00] <RickH> xTaJMoX:  Thanks.
[06:00] <neozen> RickH: or most
[06:00] <xTaJMoX> RickH: Like less /etc/X11/xorg.conf     you can also search with the / key
[06:00] <neozen> RickH: in the repos
[06:00] <Spark> so how do you upgrade if you don't have X installed
[06:00] <thinksInCode> neozen: But once I created a partition sdb1 and did a mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb1, I get those errors now
[06:00] <xTaJMoX> Spark - sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:00] <xTaJMoX> or upgrade
[06:01] <thinksInCode> The problem is described in better detail here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2999433#post2999433
[06:01] <Spark> Jordan_U: i very much doubt using this gnome thing would have prevented the kernel from no-longer providing /dev/hda
[06:01] <kintaro0e> hi guys.need help..if i tried: whichis java it shows java: /usr/bin/java /opt/java/bin/java /opt/jdk1.5.0_12/bin/java /opt/jdk1.5.0_06/bin/java, how can i change it that the the path /opt/jdk1.5.0_12/bin/java will be called 1st?
[06:01] <cotyrothery> i never had problems the last time i had wow installed using opengl
[06:01] <neozen> numus: no idea... I don't run compiz
[06:01] <jrsims> I'm dual booting XP and ubuntu on my laptop. When I run Linux, it feels like it runs a little hot. Can I fix this? Is there a package I should install that makes ubuntu use better power management?
[06:01] <Spark> xTaJMoX: so it is the same as update-manager?
[06:01] <numus> k
[06:01] <Jordan_U> Spark, I think that you are wrong
[06:01] <numus> i manually break it for now
[06:01] <astro76> thinksInCode, try a fsck after it's mounted?
[06:01] <cotyrothery> now it say 3D acceleration has faild
[06:01] <Spark> Jordan_U: why do you think that
[06:01] <neozen> thinksInCode: strange
[06:01] <thinksInCode> kintaro0e: put it first in the path
[06:01] <reya276> Jordan_U: can you help fix this ATI driver issue, the damn thing is not working correctly, I think I need to remove it and then re-install It.
[06:01] <Jordan_U> Spark, I was switched to using UUID's when I upgraded
[06:01] <thinksInCode> astro76: it can't be mounted, because the device doesn't exist
[06:01] <Spark> my /etc/fstab is custom though
[06:01] <neozen> thinksInCode: you've got me
[06:02] <dissection> I have a problem. I used alacarte to add an application to my menu but it doesn't run when I click on it. Why is that? The same application worked on my friend's computer, from the menu, which he too added using alacarte.
[06:02] <Jordan_U> Spark, It is *not* just a GUI front end for apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:02] <thinksInCode> neozen: It gets weirder, if I unplug and replug in my usb drive, then it works
[06:02] <reya276> I tried following a guide in the Ubuntu forums but no luck
[06:02] <astro76> thinksInCode, after you unplug it and plug it
[06:02] <dr_willis> i edit my fstab to use Disk Labels to mount :) more readable then  uuid's
[06:02] <neozen> yeah... what is the deal with /etc/fstab now.... why are there UUIDs in my fstab.... they weren't there in dapper?
[06:02] <RickH> The first project I contribute to Debian development is going to be a Bochs GUI wrapper.
[06:02] <kintaro0e> thinksInCode: what file will i edit?
[06:02] <kintaro0e> to make this changes
[06:02] <BaD_CrC> is it possible to prevent gdm from loading the X GUI interface
[06:02] <neozen> thinksInCode: well.... perhaps somethings just go boom
[06:02] <thinksInCode> also, it seems to work if I remove the ehci_hcd module
[06:02] <neozen> thinksInCode: sometimes I have to replug my drive too
[06:03] <iambob> can u see what i am typing
[06:03] <neozen> thinksInCode: mine takes quite a while to show up on the desktop
[06:03] <hatter> what do i do when my feisty fawn desktop crashes ?  how do i track down error messages or something related to the crash ?
[06:03] <dr_willis> BaD_CrC,  what do you want GDM to load then? - You can stop gdm from running if ya want.
[06:03] <Jordan_U> iambob, no
[06:03] <cotyrothery> yes we all can see what you are typing iambob
[06:03] <RickH> iambob:  Yes, bob. :)
[06:03] <youkilldkennedy> !nvidia
[06:03] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:03] <thinksInCode> neozen: but this is every time, as soon as the machine starts up, and only if it has partitions/filesystems on it
[06:03] <BaD_CrC> iambob: do you spell you name backwards?
[06:03] <dissection> !hardware
[06:03] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[06:03] <iambob> srry im new to ubuntu
[06:03] <towlieba> i have a pc i want to install ubuntu on. if i boot from cd, should i install it before configuring the video , sound and networking ?
[06:03] <neozen> thinksInCode: guess it just doesn't like to mount on boot
[06:03] <RickH> hatter:  Haven't had that happen yet.  But it's no small order.
[06:03] <thinksInCode> neozen: I'm not even trying to mount it
[06:03] <Jordan_U> towlieba, Yes
[06:03] <cotyrothery> iambob: how new?
[06:03] <neozen> thinksInCode: is it always going to be connected on startup?
[06:04] <Spark> Jordan_U: why invent a gui tool when there are already command-line tools for the task?
[06:04] <thinksInCode> The device file /dev/sdb and /dev/sdb1 don't even exist
[06:04] <thinksInCode> neozen: yes
[06:04] <neozen> thinksInCode: stick it in your fstab
[06:04] <RickH> iambob:  Welcome to Ubuntu.  It is awesome.  You'll love it.
[06:04] <RickH> iambob:  We're having "I've left Redmond, WA for good" T-Shirts made.
[06:04] <iambob> umm you should now you told me to join when i saw you at work the other day
[06:04] <Jordan_U> Spark, Because it does *more* than apt-get dist-upgrade does, there is also a cli version for servers
[06:04] <banlieue> what's wrong with GUI?
[06:04] <hatter> RickH, yes.  i am unsure where to start.  i use the desktop extensively and want to find out what to do about these crashes
[06:04] <Spark> Jordan_U: what does it do more?
[06:04] <Jordan_U> Spark, Switch to UUID's for one :)
[06:04] <Spark> Jordan_U: i'm sure all it needs to do can be done in a script
[06:05] <RickH> iambob:  Are you talking to me?
[06:05] <cotyrothery> No he is talking to me
[06:05] <Jordan_U> Spark, I am sure also, what is the difference between a script and a program?
[06:05] <iambob> RickH: how do i get one of the T-Shirts
[06:05] <banlieue> why use command line if you have GUI, Spark?
[06:05] <RickH> cotyrothery:  Oh, didn't see that "how new?" line.  sorry. :)
[06:05] <hatter> is there a ubuntu developers channel ?
[06:05] <Spark> a script is automatic
[06:05] <cotyrothery> RickH: yea he is sitting right next to me
[06:05] <RickH> iambob:  well, we actually aren't having them made yet.  I was only joking. :)  But, it's a good idea.  Maybe someone here will run with it.
[06:05] <Jordan_U> banlieue, Because for many things CLI is faster / easier
[06:06] <arang2> does anyone know how to fix this problem?: i can access windows shares in other computers copy and paste files, but when i try to open an mp3 file in totem or xmms they just close (they work fine with local hard disks)
[06:06] <RickH> cotyrothery:  AH!  Then he can ask you for help. heeheh :)
[06:06] <iambob> LOL
[06:06] <cotyrothery> RickH: XD yea
[06:06] <banlieue> doesn't entirely suit the 'linux for humans' philosophy though
[06:06] <cotyrothery> RickH: but im having problems
[06:06] <RickH> hatter:  There are several.  #ubuntu-desktop is a good place to start.
[06:07] <clop> hi, im using feisty/x86-64 and installed openoffice.org from apt-get; but i have no icons in the program?
[06:07] <RickH> cotyrothery:  We all are... most of them learning-curve problems.  I'm a Windows guy from way-back.  I've always hated Linux... until Ubuntu.
[06:07] <MajorPoopyPants> does the ubuntu server install cd have ssh enabled on it
[06:07] <thinksInCode> is there even a way, through software, to do the same thing that would be done if the device was unplugged and plugged?
[06:07] <neozen> Jordan_U: scripts usually are interpreted while programs are usually compiled first
[06:07] <MajorPoopyPants> im trying to do an install via ssh
[06:07] <reya276> How to remove ATI drivers
[06:07] <[Hyarion] > rockets, thanks for your help earlier, reinstalling ndiswrapper did the trick.
[06:07] <cotyrothery> RickH: well im having problems with wow
[06:07] <Jordan_U> neozen, It was a retorical question
[06:07] <RickH> cotyrothery:  Wil Wheaton (ST:TNG's Wesley Crusher) said how great it was on a digg.com article a short while back.  That's part of the reason I'm here now. :)
[06:07] <thinksInCode> i just don't want to have to physically go to the box and unplug/replug it
[06:07] <rockets> [Hyarion] , great! your welcome!
[06:07] <Jordan_U> neozen, My point was that it didn't matter
[06:07] <iambob> cotyrothery: im installing WoW right now
[06:07] <hatter> rickh. ok, i will try there also.  though i am unsure what the cause is, i end up with mouse but sytem freeze, twice it has been when coming back to openoffice.org
[06:08] <RickH> cotyrothery:  Having problems with "wow" is better than having problems with "ohh!" :)
[06:08] <cotyrothery> na duh
[06:08] <rockets> [Hyarion] , for future reference, you need to do that EVERY time you use a new kernel.
[06:08] <banlieue> lol, RickH
[06:08] <banlieue> that's horrible
[06:08] <RickH> hatter:  WOW!  That's odd.
[06:08] <neozen> big speed difference depending on the implementation
[06:08] <cotyrothery> coty slaps iambob
[06:08] <iambob> how rude
[06:08] <neozen> Jordan_U: but to your average user just trying to get something done.... no.. no real difference
[06:08] <hatter> RickH, odd and painful.
[06:08] <Jordan_U> neozen, Spark complained that what update-manager does could be done in a script, and for this purpose there is really no difference
[06:08] <RickH> iambob:  Your "how rude" comment just reminded me of C3PO
[06:08] <cotyrothery> I really need some help with world of warcraft though
[06:09] <MajorPoopyPants> what is the current kernel version?
[06:09] <hatter> whats worse is i dont end up with any clues
[06:09] <neozen> Jordan_U: got you
[06:09] <iambob> RickH: Star Wars is the best series ever
[06:09] <lor4x> hello, i want to set an option for a module so i was wondering if my method is correct: i added the line "options gspca autoexpo=0" in the file /etc/modprobe.d/options. thanks!
[06:09] <RickH> Latest kernel:  2.6.20-16 I believe
[06:09] <neozen> thinksInCode: understood.... boxes aren't always conveniently nearby
[06:09] <thinksInCode> yeah
[06:09] <neozen> thinksInCode: solution I suppose is never bring down the box
[06:09] <neozen> that's the lazy way out
[06:10] <neozen> but stuff happens when a box is at a residence
[06:10] <thinksInCode> neozen: yeah, exactly :)
[06:10] <neozen> fuses blow... parents unplug it
[06:10] <cotyrothery> I had world of warcraft running just fine before with openGL then i had to reinstall ubuntu and wow and now when i set it to opengl i get a 3d acceleration error
[06:10] <neozen> roommates puke on it
[06:10] <RickH> iambob:  Though it didn't translate quite as well imo to the big screen, Firefly was better.
[06:10] <thinksInCode> neozen: yup! hehehe
[06:10] <neozen> yes... that last one has happened
[06:10] <thinksInCode> ew
[06:10] <Jordan_U> cotyrothery, Do you have 3D acceleration ?
[06:10] <RickH> iambob:  Joss Whiddon:  He da man!
[06:10] <thinksInCode> heh
[06:10] <neozen> ......dratted dorm rooms
[06:10] <cotyrothery> Jordan_U: I did
[06:11] <Jordan_U> cotyrothery, glxinfo | grep direct
[06:11] <thinksInCode> It's just weird that the problem doesn't exhibit itself when there are no partitions on it
[06:11] <iambob> lol
[06:11] <hatter> are most of you in here running feisty fawn desktop daily without reboot ?
[06:11] <RickH> hatter:  I only reboot when I need to shut down.
[06:11] <thinksInCode> also, what is ehci_hcd anyway?
[06:11] <cotyrothery> Jordan_U: It says i dont
[06:11] <hatter> RickH, is that daily ?
[06:11] <thinksInCode> is that the usb 2.0 support?
[06:11] <RickH> hatter:  I haven't had a single failure in Feisty Fawn at all.
[06:11] <RickH> hatter:  Yes.  The only problems I've seen are clipboard related.
[06:11] <Jordan_U> cotyrothery, What GFX card do you have?
[06:11] <smartboyathome> I am having a problem with my GNOME Main Menu. My hard drive became full, and my applications menu dissapeared. When I tried to start the menu editor tool, it didn't work. I rebooted, and it still didn't work. How would I fix this?
[06:11] <iambob> hatter: i just installed ubuntu about a hour ago
[06:11] <cotyrothery> Jordan_U: i810
[06:11] <RickH> hatter:  When I copy something to the clipboard from a window, then close the window, sometimes the clipboard is also cleared.
[06:12] <RickH> hatter:  The only other odd thing I've noticed is that inactive windows with selected text somewhere will suddenly unselect or change color if, in the active window I begin selecting text.
[06:12] <vip3rousmango> Anyone have experiance installing XP Corporate as the secondary OS to Ubuntu?? I need help with the partitioning of Ubuntu drive
[06:12] <cotyrothery> Jordan_U: It can do rendering because i had beryl on it once before
[06:12] <Flannel> !anyone | vip3rousmango
[06:12] <ubotu> vip3rousmango: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:12] <hatter> mine are random freezes that were constant a few months ago, but then some other forums suggested relation to apic, since then it has been rare, but still once every few weeeks
[06:12] <vip3rousmango> Flannel: my question is there
[06:13] <RickH> hatter:  I haven't had a one.  It's been the most stable OS I've used, apart from XP & Vista.
[06:13] <hatter> RickH, yes, i would like to track down what is causing this.  but i have no clues
[06:13] <smartboyathome> would someone help me?
[06:13] <hatter> it just freezes and i need to reboot
[06:13] <RickH> hatter:  Have you tried re-installing a fresh install to another partition?
[06:14] <Flannel> vip3rousmango: unless you literally wanted nothing but a "yes", that's not your question.  Basically now anyone who wants to help has to ask "What do you need help with?" (which I'm asking currently)
[06:14] <RickH> hatter:  Then slowly adding things one at a time until something goes boom?
[06:14] <RickH> smartboyathome:  What's up?
[06:14] <cotyrothery> so how do i get my gfx rendering to work
[06:14] <astro76> thinksInCode, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89266
[06:14] <Jordan_U> cotyrothery, can you pastebin the output of: grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:14] <RickH> smartboyathome:  When your hard drive is full the system cannot operate properly.
[06:15] <vip3rousmango> Flannel: Ok, fair enough. You have me there. What can I use to partition my ubuntu drive (100gb, only drive in my laptop) so that I can put a small 20gig windows install. I still want ubuntu as my main O/S though. Is this possible.. and hopefully not to complicated?
[06:15] <RickH> smartboyathome:  Boot from the Live CD, mount the drive (if it's not automatically recognized), go and delete or more some stuff somewhere else.
[06:15] <smartboyathome> I got rid of a lot of space, but would I have to re-install GNOME itself?
[06:15] <thinksInCode> astro76: That works for me too... but what effect does unloading that module have?
[06:15] <thinksInCode> astro76: Will my drive operate more slowly?
[06:15] <RickH> smartboyathome:  Possibly.  sudo apt-get install gnome
[06:15] <zhang> I got rid of hardware
[06:15] <smartboyathome> it is all ready installed. I am probably going to re-install
[06:15] <smartboyathome> this will reset my theme, correct?
[06:16] <astro76> thinksInCode, according to some comments on that page it's a kernel bug introduced recently
[06:16] <cotyrothery> http://pastebin.com/m6d008fd7
[06:16] <Flannel> vip3rousmango: yeah, it's no big deal.  Windows can be any partition (although primary master is the method to do if you don't want to do any additional configuration), and then just install Ubuntu second.  Or, if you already have Ubuntu and you're installing windows, youll need to reinstall GRUB (no big deal), by following the first URL ubotu is about to give you
[06:16] <astro76> thinksInCode, yes it will run at usb1.1 speed
[06:16] <Flannel> !grub | vip3rousmango
[06:16] <ubotu> vip3rousmango: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:16] <cotyrothery> !botsnack
[06:16] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[06:16] <RickH> smartboyathome:  Doubtful. That would be controlled by a setting you already have, I believe.  It would just re-install the app so it worked properly.
[06:16] <thinksInCode> ugh
[06:16] <panik> is there anything i have to do to get my xbox live to work with ubuntu?
[06:17] <cotyrothery> !rendering
[06:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rendering - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:17] <Jordan_U> cotyrothery, Strange
[06:17] <thinksInCode> how can you tell if something is running at USB 2.0 or USB 1.1 speed? I wonder if the drive is running at the lower speed when I unplug and plug it?
[06:17] <cotyrothery> Jordan_U: should i restart my computer
[06:17] <smartboyathome> ok, thanx, I will try re-installing, and come back if it doesn't work :)
[06:17] <Jordan_U> cotyrothery, That shouldn't make a difference
[06:17] <RickH> smartboyathome:  You're smart... you'll figure something out. :)
[06:18] <smartboyathome> thanx, til then!
[06:18] <cotyrothery> Jordan_U: so how do i turn it back on
[06:18] <Jordan_U> cotyrothery, I don't know, I don't know why it isn't working yet
[06:18] <iambob> man any1 know why World Of Warcraft takes so long to install
[06:19] <panik> its 4 gb
[06:19] <bruenig|laptop> iambob, because that's how long it takes to install
[06:19] <Jordan_U> cotyrothery, Do you get any output from: sudo modprobe i810
[06:19] <RickH> iambob:  Slow CD drive?
[06:19] <cotyrothery> Jordan_U: No output
[06:19] <panik> Does anyone know anything about xbox360 and ubuntu?
[06:19] <vip3rousmango> Flannel: What can I use to partition the space for the windows install?
[06:19] <iambob>  it installed really fast when i installed it on windows xp
[06:19] <thinksInCode> is there anything in the output of 'lsusb -v' that would tell me if it's running at usb 2.0 speeds or the slower usb 1.1 speeds?
[06:20] <RickH> iambob:  Yeah, but it ran slower!  Muahahaha. :)
[06:20] <vip3rousmango> Flannel: And should I make it FAT32 instead of NTFS just so ubuntu can read from it later on? Will FAT32 still allow windows stability?>
[06:20] <iambob> RickH: actually it ran perfect
[06:20] <blizzok> Does anyone know how to troubleshoot ALSA? I'm pretty sure mt ALSA is broken but i don't know how to fix it on a debian system.
[06:20] <RickH> iambob:  Yes.  I was joking.
[06:20] <Jordan_U> cotyrothery, Maybe you could try the intel driver, xserver-xorg-video-intel
[06:20] <iambob> lol
[06:21] <Jordan_U> cotyrothery, Install it from apt/synaptic then dpkg-reconfigure again
[06:21] <cotyrothery> so i should put in terminal ?
[06:21] <Flannel> vip3rousmango: partition the windows as NTFS.  Ubuntu can read nTFS by default, and can write to it too (although not by default)
[06:21] <Justi1> how do I pm someone
[06:21] <Jordan_U> cotyrothery, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel && sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[06:21] <Flannel> vip3rousmango: You can use the windows installer to partition, er, I think it does that still.
[06:21] <blizzok> Justi1, use /query name
[06:21] <RickH> Justil:  Go to synaptic and look for "instant message"
[06:22] <RickH> Justil:  Or do you mean here in IRC?
[06:22] <Gruelius> vip3rousmango: you will want to use ntfs-3g
[06:22] <cotyrothery> Jordan_U: ok its installing
[06:22] <Justi1> in IRC
[06:22] <cotyrothery> Jordan_U: do you think that was the problem
[06:22] <Jordan_U> !ntfs-3g | vip3rousmango
[06:22] <ubotu> vip3rousmango: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[06:22] <Jordan_U> cotyrothery, It should have worked with i810, but it might work with intel
[06:22] <RickH> Jordan_U:  What is the "-phigh" option?
[06:23] <Jordan_U> cotyrothery, Once that command is done restart x
[06:23] <blizzok> so does anyone know how to fix a bad ALSA? is it done via modules in ubuntu?
[06:23] <cotyrothery> ok
[06:23] <Jordan_U> RickH, Asks only high priority questions
[06:23] <Gruelius> bizzonk:whats wrong with alsa?
[06:23] <cotyrothery> brb
[06:23] <cotyrothery> restarting
[06:23] <Jordan_U> RichiH, In this case driver and resolution only
[06:23] <RickH> Jordan_U: OH HOW NICE THAT WOULD'VE BEEN TO KNOW! :)  Us Nvidia driver people would've loved to nkow that! :)
[06:24] <blizzok> Gruelius, mplayer stalls when it tries to use it, and xmms won't even try.
[06:24] <RickH> Jordan_U: I can whip through that dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg now like nobody's business. :)
[06:24] <Gruelius> blizzonk: Does mplayer tell you the device is in use?
[06:24] <thinksInCode> Is there anything in the output of 'lsusb -v' that would tell me if it's running at usb 2.0 speeds or the slower usb 1.1 speeds?
[06:24] <Gruelius> blizzonk: Dmesg | grep alsa
[06:25] <vip3rousmango> Ok thats fine then, so I should be able to pop in my WinXP cd.. partition the drive from it's manager and install windows to that? Then I have to use the LiveCD to put grub back onto what/where?
[06:25] <blizzok> Gruelius, ok one sec
[06:25] <hatter> RickH, no i havent done that recently,  but i did do it when fesity came out
[06:25] <Gruelius> blizzonk: i think that is the command
[06:25] <hatter> i am not wanting to do that now
[06:25] <blizzok> Gruelius, no alsa at al
[06:25] <blizzok> *all
[06:25] <Gruelius> blizzonk: try modprobe alsa
[06:25] <RickH> hatter:  Done what?
[06:25] <hatter> the crashes are inconsistent and sometimes weeks apart
[06:25] <hatter> reinstall
[06:25] <arang2> anyone knows a solution for this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/17590/+viewstatus<------- it's been reported since 2005 and i have the same problem
[06:25] <blizzok> Gruelius, i did that earlier and it said alsa: no module
[06:25] <RickH> hatter:  oh
[06:25] <RickH> hatter:  That would be the way I would track it down.
[06:25] <Jordan_U> !grub | vip3rousmango
[06:25] <ubotu> vip3rousmango: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:26] <RickH> hatter:  Install separately, then add one by one.
[06:26] <arang2> guys?
[06:26] <eboyjr> Can anyone help me with the Totem Movie Player? When I see the flv video in natilus, I can see the thumbnail in color. When I play it, it is black and white, and Movie Player's screenshot thing captures it in color. Why is this happening?
[06:26] <arang2> does anyone know a solution for this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/17590/+viewstatus<------- it's been reported since 2005 and i have the same problem
[06:26] <hatter> rickh, too hard.  its weeks between crashes
[06:26] <hatter> i need some log or something
[06:26] <RickH> hatter:  Then I'd chalk it up to sunspots. :P
[06:26] <|green> just ugraded a long un-upgraded ubuntu box here running beryl and  now X is broken .. getting "no screens found" due to an nvidia kernel module mismatch .. efforts to reinstall the nvidia module are going nowhere
[06:26] <neozen> eboyjr: because mplayer rules...
[06:26] <vip3rousmango> Jordan_U: is super grub loader easy way to correct windows overriding grub? Cuz i still want Ubuntu as my main OS, not windows.
[06:26] <blizzok> eboyjr, try playing with totem's video settings
[06:26] <|green> anyone able to offer any help?
[06:27] <neozen> eboyjr: (sorry... never used totem)
[06:27] <MajorPoopyPants> is there a server specific ubuntu channel
[06:27] <Jordan_U> arang2, I wonder why the status is "invalid"
[06:27] <neozen> MajorPayne: we'll probably be able to help you
[06:27] <neozen> MajorPayne: lots of admins in here
[06:28] <RickH> What is the diff between the server and desktop versions of Feisty Fawn?
[06:28] <thinksInCode> Here's another question for you guys. I am running this Ubuntu box as a home server, so it isn't running X or anything. Is my best bet to run the Server edition and just add what I need, or do the desktop version and remove what I don't need?
[06:28] <arang2> Jordan_U: the status is invalid cos the guy who reported it didnt provide a crash stack to the gnome people, and it was more than a year ago
[06:28] <Jordan_U> vip3rousmango, I have never used super grub before, the instructions on the wiki for restoring grub aren't very hard though
[06:28] <blizzok> RichiH, mostly just what runs
[06:28] <thinksInCode> I notice that it's running a "-server" kernel but I'm not sure what the differences are - although part of my learning is going to be to try to build my own kernel
[06:28] <RickH> blizzok:  You mean by default?
[06:28] <neozen> RickH: a metric ton of packages
[06:28] <RickH> blizzok:  I read that server was LAMP-enabled out of the box... etc.
[06:28] <RickH> neozen:  got it.
[06:29] <neozen> RickH: no gui on the server
[06:29] <Jordan_U> arang2, Maybe you should re-open it and give them a stacktrace then :)
[06:29] <Flannel> thinksInCode: the biggest difference with the -server kernel is that the -server disables PREEMPT.
[06:29] <blizzok> RickH, the desktop has a graphical enviroment, and stuff like that
[06:29] <thinksInCode> Flannel: and what's PREEMPT?
[06:29] <Flannel> The "desktop" and "server" CDs have completelydifferent (and independant of the kernel) differences
[06:29] <vip3rousmango> Jordan_U: ..yes, but it still gets me confused when i deal with hard drive paritioning things.. i don't really know how linux sets up HDD and whatnot
[06:29] <neozen> !preempt
[06:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about preempt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:30] <thinksInCode> also, uname -v gives me "#2 SMP" but I don't have an SMP box.. should I load a regular kernel?
[06:30] <blizzok> so does anyone know how to install alsa? it apears as if i don't have it, even though alsamixer is able to mute my sound card
[06:30] <arang2> Jordan_U: im a noob i can barely install things if u help me i  will but i would like to find out if there's a solution so i dont open something just for nothing
[06:30] <neozen> Flannel: inded... what is preempt?
[06:30] <neozen> *indeed
[06:30] <Jordan_U> vip3rousmango, You don't need to just follow the instructions, they go step by step through it
[06:30] <Flannel> PREEMPT allows processes to run more-uninterrupted.  Of course, it can cause some latency issues with interrupt heavy things (if you run -server, and you have a GUI and mouse, your mouse might appear sluggish sometimes)
[06:30] <thinksInCode> ah, ok
[06:30] <neozen> ahhhhh
[06:30] <RickH> arang2:  What is the problem?
[06:30] <neozen> thankee
[06:30] <Flannel> PREEMPT is a task scheduling thing (one of two major ones currently in use)
[06:30] <kelvin> buenas una sala en espaol
[06:31] <Flannel> the desktop has both enabled, server only has the other
[06:31] <Flannel> !es | kelvin
[06:31] <ubotu> kelvin: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:31] <vbanait> Can you suggest me any revision control system for organising hundreds of docs
[06:31] <thinksInCode> vbanait: subversion is good
[06:31] <ubuntu> ok now i restarted
[06:31] <loco_aullador> hi i cant listen anything in my toshiba lapton, and i've red a solution in a web, in says to add in the menu.list acpi=off, but im not sure what is it, what is acpi?
[06:31] <arang2> RickH: is a bug in nautilus check this link it explains faster https://bugs.launchpad.net/nautilus/+bug/17590
[06:31] <vbanait> is it simple
[06:31] <RickH> arang2:  Oh.
[06:31] <thinksInCode> so should I build a new kernel that isn't SMP? or does this not matter much
[06:31] <cotyrothery> how do i know if im doing direct rendering
[06:31] <neozen> !conary
[06:31] <arang2> RickH: im getting the exact same problem
[06:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about conary - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:31] <RickH> arang2:  I can't help you there... sorry.
[06:32] <arang2> ok
[06:32] <sn0w> exit
[06:32] <arang2> RickH: thanks
[06:32] <vbanait> i have to add hundreds of patient data everyday using templates
[06:32] <RickH> vbanait:  Locally?  Or on a network?
[06:32] <vbanait> so i need something that can organise it
[06:32] <vbanait> locally
[06:33] <thinksInCode> vbanait: Subversion can run inside of Apache.. check out http://svnbook.red-bean.com/
[06:33] <cotyrothery> hey can someone tell me how i can tell if im using direct rendering
[06:33] <RickH> vbanait:  Why not setup some relational databases with OpenOffice?
[06:33] <vbanait> tried but failed
[06:33] <vbanait> i m not a programmer
[06:33] <Jordan_U> cotyrothery, glxinfo | grep direct
[06:34] <RickH> vbanait:  You could write a small front-end which receives the file by its real name, renames it, stores the real name and the renamed name in a database, then puts it someplace standard.
[06:34] <RickH> vbanait:  Oh, I thought you were VB Nate. :)
[06:34] <nextse7en> Could I get a little help, i'm trying to run winetools, but when I try to run it, I get the following. E: Couldn't find package libgtk-1.2.s
[06:34] <nextse7en>  couls someone tell me where to get libgtk-1.2.s?
[06:34] <vbanait> Cool
[06:34] <Gruelius> use winecfg
[06:34] <RickH> nextse7en:  sudo apt-get install libgtk-1.2.s ??
[06:34] <bruenig|laptop> nextse7en, you wouldn't get that error when running winetools
[06:34] <Glave-work> how can I remove a lv completely? I've been trying to get rid of one I had that developed a bad hard drive, but I keep getting errors talking about the previous lvm
[06:35] <cotyrothery> Jordan_U: Nope still not doing direct rendering
[06:35] <bruenig|laptop> do you mean install?
[06:35] <Jordan_U> cotyrothery, Did you restart X?
[06:35] <thinksInCode> hey guys, an update on my bizarre USB HD issue
[06:35] <nextse7en> lol, I would get that error, because thats what error i'm getting.
[06:35] <futnuh> I'm running dapper and my version of scons is 0.96.  I need to install 0.97 (http://packages.debian.org/unstable/devel/scons).  How would I do this?
[06:35] <bruenig|laptop> nextse7en, that is a dpkg error
[06:35] <cotyrothery> Jordan_U: I just restarted the whole computer
[06:35] <thinksInCode> This time, when I did mkfs.ext3, I copied some data to it, so it wasn't empty.. and now it is being recognized and mounted on boot!
[06:35] <thinksInCode> Weird.
[06:35] <bruenig|laptop> nextse7en, what command are you running that causes that error to occur
[06:35] <asaup> nothing happens when i try to loggin into a session and i see that i have no xorg.conf what can i do please
[06:35] <thinksInCode> But is there any way to tell if it's running at USB 2.0 speed?
[06:35] <Ex-Cyber> nextse7en: as far as I know winetools is unmaintained and doesn't work with current Wine versions
[06:36] <vbanait> Can you suggest out of box relational database to store patient record
[06:36] <Jordan_U> cotyrothery, You don't have XGL installed do you?
[06:36] <nextse7en> Oh, your right, sorry, thats what heppens when I try to apt-get it.
[06:36] <cotyrothery> i dont know
[06:36] <RickH> vbanait:  OpenOffice is about as generic as you can get.
[06:36] <bruenig|laptop> !info winetools
[06:36] <ubotu> Package winetools does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:36] <RickH> vbanait:  The table structure would be easy to seutp.
[06:36] <RickH> vbanait:  Do you understand relational tables?
[06:36] <bruenig|laptop> nextse7en, is this a third party repo?
[06:36] <nextse7en> the error I'm geting with wine is.... "/usr/local/winetools/Xdialog: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:36] <nextse7en> "
[06:37] <RickH> vbanait:  OpenOffice also has the advantage of running on any platform (Linux, Windows, Mac, etc.)
[06:37] <blizzok> does anyone know how to test if alsa is working properly?
[06:37] <Jordan_U> cotyrothery, Can you pastebin the output of glxinfo ?
[06:37] <vbanait> but i have to set a query to print present visit of patient. I cannot do it
[06:37] <bruenig|laptop> nextse7en, where did you get winetools?
[06:37] <RickH> vbanait:  I think there are standard forms you could use as templates.
[06:37] <RickH> vbanait:  Just select one of the templates, then rename the fields.
[06:37] <AncientPC> Does anyone know how to send your computer into hibernation / sleep / suspend through command line?
[06:37] <RickH> vbanait:  Let me check.
[06:37] <vbanait> where i will get the standard forms
[06:38] <Jordan_U> AncientPC, pmi action suspend I believe
[06:38] <cotyrothery> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/m7660048d
[06:38] <nextse7en> bruenig: http://www.von-thadden.de/Joachim/WineTools/
[06:38] <asaup> nothing happens when i try to loggin into a session and i see that i have no xorg.conf what can i do please
[06:38] <asaup> ??
[06:38] <RickH> vbanait:  Yeah, it has a built-in wizard.
[06:38] <RickH> vbanait:  I'm going through it now.  You can select some default abilities based on somehting close to your needs.
[06:38] <Jordan_U> cotyrothery, Are you sure you don't have an ATI card?
[06:39] <RickH> vbanait:  It might not be a perfect match, but it would work.  How many fields do you have?
[06:39] <vbanait> to do what
[06:39] <bruenig|laptop> !info wine
[06:39] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.33-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9576 kB, installed size 44452 kB
[06:39] <vbanait> 20
[06:39] <blizzok> asaup, do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[06:39] <nextse7en> Is there a way to get winetools from a better place? ap-get doesn't have it.
[06:39] <RickH> vbanait:  Are you keying them all in?  Or are they in a text file?
[06:39] <banlieue> I did not think I'd ever say this but.. I wish Yahoo! Widgets supported linux ;/
[06:39] <vbanait> the field size is > 250 characters
[06:39] <bruenig|laptop> nextse7en, why do you need it exactly?
[06:39] <vbanait> text files
[06:39] <RickH> vbanait:  No problem.  You can import from text files.
[06:39] <cader> DCC SEND startkeylogger 0 0 0
[06:39] <Jordan_U> !ops
[06:40] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[06:40] <RickH> vbanait:  I would suggest you go through the OpenOffice manuals, or find someone who can sit down with you and go through them.
[06:40] <bruenig|laptop> here come the bans
[06:40] <nextse7en> I need winetools to setup windows fonts, and to install ps 7.
[06:40] <cotyrothery> i dont have an ati card
[06:40] <futnuh> How do you do an apt-get of an unstable package (for which I have the stable version currently installed)?
[06:40] <RickH> vbanait:  OO will do what you want, and it's not that hard.  It's just a distance between that solution and where you are now (learning curve).
[06:40] <bruenig|laptop> nextse7en, I would get the source and deal with that, not a deb probably
[06:40] <Jordan_U> cotyrothery, Your glxinfo seems to say that you do
[06:40] <RickH> vbanait:  Another, more generic solution, would be to create a single memo field of variable length size, and just stick the entire file in there.
[06:41] <bruenig|laptop> futnuh, is the unstable package in your repositories?
[06:41] <blizzok> brb, rebooting this heap of junk
[06:41] <RickH> vbanait:  From there you have the original, and then you can parse out whatever you want later on when you figure out how to write some code to do that.
[06:41] <futnuh> bruenig: how would I check ;-)
[06:41] <banlieue> I wish linux had widgets as pretty as OS X :/
[06:41] <iambob> Jordan_U: CotyRothery says that he doesnt
[06:41] <bruenig|laptop> futnuh, well if it hasn't shown up in the updates, then it isn't in there
[06:41] <RickH> banlieue:  There's nothing stopping you from writing a Widgets package.
[06:41] <wifenfeffer> how can I configure ubuntu to only launch certain daemons (like samba) when connected to a certain network ?
[06:41] <bruenig|laptop> futnuh, unless you added your own third party repos
[06:41] <banlieue> RickH: oh there's many things stopping me :P
[06:42] <neozen> banlieue: then make some.... the world may beat a path to your door
[06:42] <RickH> banlieue:  yeah, but they're self-imposed. :)
[06:42] <futnuh> http://packages.debian.org/unstable/devel/scons is the package I want
[06:42] <vbanait> i have installed gnumed, but could not establish connection on local machine with database
[06:42] <SunmanXII> how does one play .sub or .srt subtitles in mplayer (if that is at all possible)? (i tired asking this in #mplayer but no one responded
[06:42] <banlieue> RickH: oh definitely ;P
[06:42] <thinksInCode> ok I gotta get going, but last call... can anyone tell me how I can tell via the command line if a USB device is running at USB 2.0 speed?
[06:42] <RickH> vbanait:  can't help you there.
[06:42] <Flannel> futnuh: That means no.  Ubuntu only packages stable version (or at least, onyl one version) of software (well, per Ubuntu version).  The newer versions are in newer versions of Ubuntu, if at all
[06:42] <Jordan_U> iambob, I know, but his glxinfo says he does, so somewhere something is wrong
[06:42] <neozen> SunmanXII: name them the same thing as the video file.... only with the .srt or .sub extension
[06:42] <RickH> vbanait:  I have relational databasing experience.  Not much with OO, but I've used Access and it's similar.
[06:42] <iambob> Jordan_U: im just repeating what he said
[06:42] <RickH> vbanait:  I could help you with concept.  If you wanted to use Visual FoxPro I could even write you a simple one.
[06:43] <towlieba> has anyone here used ubuntu under vmware ?
[06:43] <bruenig|laptop> futnuh, this is ubuntu, that is debian
[06:43] <RickH> vbanait:  But, as it is... I wish you well. :)
[06:43] <Jordan_U> cotyrothery, can you pastebin the output of: "grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf" again?
[06:43] <iambob> not trying to be a smart A** but he is siting right next to me
[06:43] <Jordan_U> towlieba, I am running Gutsy in Vmware now
[06:43] <futnuh> bruenig|laptop: Ahh, I just assumed that since I use apt-get, I could access the debian packages ...
[06:43] <towlieba> gutsy ?
[06:43] <thinksInCode> neozen, astro76, jessie: Thanks for trying to help me out, I appreciate it!
[06:43] <futnuh> bruenig: I am using Dapper.
[06:44] <neozen> futnuh: try installing the beast from that deb... I've had good experience installing debian packages in ubuntu
[06:44] <bruenig|laptop> futnuh, no, debian has repositories, ubuntu has repositories
[06:44] <Jordan_U> towlieba, Alpha version of ubuntu
[06:44] <neozen> thinksInCode: you're welcome
[06:44] <cotyrothery> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/m5a4c6871
[06:44] <SunmanXII> neozen: i did this and it gave me an internal data flow error
[06:44] <towlieba> does vmware support 3d acceleration under linux clients ?
[06:44] <RickH> vbanait:  OO has a wonderful forms designer.  You could set it up very easily.  It would take about a day.
[06:44] <RickH> vbanait:  And that's with the learning curve.
[06:44] <vbanait> i actually tried with access. I have to create filter query so that the data printed include "Patient_ID" that i am printing and "Date" (Primary key) to print data of present patient
[06:44] <neozen> SunmanXII: your subs might be corrupted then
[06:44] <AncientPC> Jordan_U: Thanks, that looked like it will work (didn't run in sudo, middle of updating right now so I can't test it).
[06:44] <Flannel> futnuh: debian and ubuntu packages aren't necessarily binary compatable (or dependency compatable).  If you're using dapper, have you considered upgradign to edgy and/or feisty?  You'll get newer versions there
[06:44] <neozen> SunmanXII: I think that's what that means
[06:44] <SunmanXII> also, the subtitles work in VLC however they are enormous (even though i set the relative size to smaller)... maybe some one can help me with that?
[06:45] <Jordan_U> cotyrothery, Did you choose intel as the driver when you ran: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[06:45] <neozen> SunmanXII: not me.... sorry
[06:45] <neozen> SunmanXII: mine just seemed to work... best of luck
[06:45] <RickH> vbanait:  Yes.  But you can setup a form to do that, one which saves your last used values to a table so you don't have to retype everything each time.  There are ways to do what you want... it's not that hard, and it's much more powerful than any off-the-shelf package you'll find.
[06:45] <RickH> vbanait:  because you own it, you can expand it and extend it.
[06:45] <RickH> vbanait:  Just my thoughts. :)
[06:45] <AncientPC> On a side note, how come /etc/acpi/sleep.sh doesn't do anything?
[06:46] <asaup> i just did sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh but didnt resolved my problem
[06:46] <RickH> AncientPC:  It's sleeping. :)
[06:46] <cotyrothery> Jordan_U: no i choose i810
[06:46] <Flannel> futnuh: You can also backport things from newer versions too.  Although depending on what it is, it might be easier/more difficult
[06:46] <bruenig|laptop> AncientPC, check out the code, see what it is supposed to do
[06:46] <futnuh> Flannel: can I upgrade without a full os reinstall?
[06:46] <towlieba> Jordan_U,  does vmware support 3d acceleration under linux clients ?
[06:46] <Jordan_U> cotyrothery, Try intel, that is the new driver I had you install
[06:46] <vbanait> RickH: how do you create filter query
[06:46] <neozen> Jordan_U: no
[06:46] <cotyrothery> Jordan_U: ok i just put intel
[06:46] <clarkey> Hi wondering if anyone could help trying to set up a MythTV box nearly all done all that is left is to get the remote working (some of the buttons work ie. numbers and left right up down but the others don't) I have tried to set up lirc but get errors any one that could help?)
[06:46] <Flannel> futnuh: yeah.  That's why they call it upgrading ;)
[06:46] <Flannel> !upgrade | futnuh
[06:46] <cotyrothery> so i need to restart?
[06:46] <ubotu> futnuh: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:46] <RickH> vbanait:  SQL select statements:  select fields from table where condition...
[06:46] <neozen> Jordan_U: HELL no...
[06:46] <Jordan_U> towlieba, IIRC Yes, but it is Beta
[06:46] <Flannel> futnuh: you need to go dapper > edgy > feisty (can't go straight from dapper to feisty)
[06:46] <Jordan_U> neozen,
[06:46] <Jordan_U> ?
[06:46] <towlieba> Jordan_U, on linux clients ?
[06:47] <futnuh> ubotu: got it, thanks.
[06:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about got it, thanks. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:47] <RickH> vbanait:  That will give you a view of the table for only the criteria you've selected.  Then you can use that subset for reporting.
[06:47] <neozen> Jordan_U: sorry... mean't towlieba
[06:47] <Jordan_U> neozen, :)
[06:47] <RickH> vbanait:  The actual data still exists back in the original table(s), but the view makes a subset appear which can be manipulated as if it were its own file.
[06:47] <towlieba> Jordan_U,  what ?
[06:47] <neozen> towlieba: well.... it can .... for directx .... kindof
[06:47] <Jordan_U> towlieba, If they do it is not stable and I don't use it
[06:48] <AncientPC> bruenig|laptop: heh thx, it was pretty obvious from the line #if gnome-power-manager is running let them handle policy
[06:48] <vbanait> where condition is "Patient_ID"= present patient and date= DATE OF document that is being browsed. how do you set it it
[06:48] <towlieba> neozen thats for windows clients
[06:48] <RickH> vbanait:  select id, name, diagnosis from patients where date >= '07/05/2007'
[06:48] <hortian> hey folks, I'm having trouble getting 1400x1050 resolution working on my laptop
[06:48] <Jordan_U> hortian, What GPU ?
[06:48] <hortian> I installed the 915resolution package, but I still get only 1280x1024 as my resolutions...
[06:48] <RickH> vbanait:  The results from that SQL select command will only have the id, name and diagnosis for the date range specified.
[06:49] <neozen> towlieba: I meant the vm tries to use directx it kind of uses acceleration of the host os.... kindof
[06:49] <hortian> its the intel chipset ... I believe it's using the i810 driver
[06:49] <RickH> vbanait:  Just an example.
[06:49] <vbanait> is it that simple/. I will giive a try.
[06:49] <vbanait> thanks
[06:49] <neozen> towlieba: newbie interpretation.... no... hell no
[06:49] <chirpsalot> ensignchirps: you are relieved of duty
[06:49] <towlieba> neozen, i meant on linux clients
[06:49] <RickH> vbanait:  Yes.  And with forms development the input screens are so easy.
[06:49] <neozen> towlieba: that should clear it up
[06:49] <chirpsalot> sorry bout that
[06:49] <Jordan_U> hortian, Try reconfigureing X and / or using the intel driver
[06:49] <clarkey> Hi wondering if anyone could help trying to set up a MythTV box nearly all done all that is left is to get the remote working (some of the buttons work ie. numbers and left right up down but the others don't) I have tried to set up lirc but get errors any one that could help? spent all day trying to work this out i am relatively new to linux so its a hard one and any help would be very appreciated
[06:49] <neozen> towlieba: no...no.... and no
[06:49] <RickH> vbanait:  The forms allow you to create a way to input data.  If you have text files, you could copy-and-paste manually until you figure out how to code from it.
[06:50] <neozen> towlieba: clear yes?
[06:50] <RickH> vbanait:  It would be tedious, but it would keep errors from coming up.
[06:50] <Jordan_U> !xconfig > hortian
[06:50] <towlieba> are you sure ?  i saw a video on youtube of someone running gentoo in vmware with 3d stuff
[06:50] <Jordan_U> !fixres > hortian
[06:50] <hortian> jordan: I'm not sure what else can be done ... the correct driver is installed, and the xorg.conf file has 1400x1050 as it's only resolution modes, yet I still get 1280x1024 resolution in X
[06:50] <RickH> vbanait:  You can create single-line text edit fields, or multi-line edit box fields, etc.
[06:50] <neozen> towlieba: I've never gotten it to work at a decent speed
[06:50] <hortian> hmm, hang on
[06:50] <neozen> (only an intel card here)
[06:50] <RickH> vbanait:  It really is straight-forward... it just takes some mindset training to figure out what the computer needs you to tell it to do so it can do what you want.
[06:50] <RickH> vbanait:  Best of luck to you though. :)
[06:51] <neozen> towlieba: ask the maker of the youtube video what he was running
[06:51] <vbanait> thanks
[06:51] <youkilldkennedy> I'm using beryl as my window manager, and sometimes it opens windows pitch black until I resize them to a certain size, then I must keep them there. Anyone know why?
[06:51] <echosystm> can someone tell me of a good html editor with preview window?
[06:51] <RickH> vbanait:  np
[06:51] <echosystm> so i can see whats going on when i change the code
[06:51] <alenia_aeronauti> hi
[06:52] <Justi2> !register
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[06:52] <youkilldkennedy> !beryl
[06:52] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:52] <Justi2> how do I register
[06:52] <RickH> You know what would be cool?  A live Linux environment with new code changes which can be applied immediately.  This would be an emulation environment custom developed, which was tied explicitly to a source-code base.  As changes in the source-code are made, the emulated Linux environment is immediately populated with the changes.
[06:52] <RickH> That way you can try things, see their immediate effect on the system.
[06:52] <neozen> echosystm: easiest solution i've seen is to stick an auto-refresh in the header of your page
[06:52] <neozen> echosystm: and save frequently
[06:52] <RickH> LiveLinux.  That might be the second package I develop. :)
[06:53] <preaction> RickH: it's called "./configure && make && make install"
[06:53] <neozen> echosystm: then open the page in your browser while you're editing the page
[06:53] <Justi2> omg!
[06:53] <RickH> preaction:  That is well behind development time.  I'm talking about as you change a line of source code, it does a real-time pseudo-compile via emulation to immediately reflect the changes.
[06:53] <hende07> does anyone know of a good avi to dvd converter for feisty
[06:53] <alenia_aeronauti> "&&" means, execute next command if first command succeed
[06:53] <preaction> RickH: "pseudo-compile"? it has to actually compile.
[06:54] <Jordan_U> RickH, Python being an interpreted language can do that now
[06:54] <RickH> preaction:  In this environment I'm talking about, it would be emulated.
[06:54] <youkilldkennedy> I'm using beryl as my window manager, and sometimes it opens windows pitch black until I resize them to a certain size, then I must keep them there. Anyone know why?
[06:54] <RickH> Jordan_U: I'm talking about emulating the entire Linux install... via source code.
[06:54] <rockets> youkilldkennedy, Yeah, its because you're using a buggy, unstable window manager named beryl.
[06:54] <RickH> Jordan_U: Python can't do that. :)
[06:54] <hende07> does anyone know of a good avi to dvd converter for feisty
[06:54] <rockets> RickH, Sorry I just got here. For what purpose?
[06:55] <rockets> hende07, yeah, devede
[06:55] <youkilldkennedy> rockets, I see... can you recommend a better one?
[06:55] <rockets> youkilldkennedy, thats the only one i know of. why
[06:55] <neozen> rockets: whatever burning application comes with kde
[06:55] <Justi4> rockets
[06:55] <rockets> youkilldkennedy, I think k3b from the medibuntu repository can do it. but k3b from kubuntu default cant.
[06:55] <preaction> rockets: for automagically psudo-compiling of base system source code in order to take immediate effect on the running system
[06:55] <RickH> rockets:  I had the idea of a LiveLinux development environment.  Everything that's running in such an environment is not running off of binaries, but rather source-code level pseudo-compiles of that source-code.  Literally, as source lines are changed the live linux environment is updated.
[06:56] <neozen> rockets: yeah.. that one
[06:56] <hende07> i tried devede it didnt work
[06:56] <rockets> RickH, but the system would crash so often it would be a huge pain.
[06:56] <darwin81> How does the installer calculate how much space is used for swap?
[06:56] <neozen> RickH: that's..... some trippy stuff
[06:56] <RickH> rockets:  You could pause the system at a given time, freeze it at that point as a "go back to" point in case it fails.  Make the changes, try it again, go back again, and so forth.
[06:56] <hende07> i was thinking about putting a windows program on here to do it but i dont know much about wine
[06:56] <Justi4> rockets: IT WORKED! Thank you so much! I can't thank you enough
[06:56] <Jordan_U> RichiH, You can do self modifying code, but it gets pretty ugly :)
[06:56] <rockets> RickH, Besides youd have to have a kernel capable of handling that. Which . . afaik doesn't exist.
[06:56] <hortian> Jordan_U: it looks like one of those links has some info, thanks!
[06:56] <rockets> Justi4, You can thank me by paying it forward.
[06:56] <RickH> rockets:  I know it would work... it's just a matter of getting it setup to correlate the source-code immediately to the actual runtime environment.
[06:57] <preaction> rockets: i think the idea is to have the virtual machine engine handle that
[06:57] <Jordan_U> hortian, np
[06:57] <RickH> rockets:  You could emulate it with something like Bochs.
[06:57] <RickH> rockets:  It would allow you to handle the stop-and-go easily.
[06:57] <rockets> RickH, well. if you get it to work, ill give you a cookie. and ask for the code :-D
[06:57] <Jordan_U> preaction, That does not make sense
[06:57] <RickH> rockets:  Even debugging would be easier. :)
[06:57] <neozen> ...............go to it mon
[06:57] <neozen> sounds like a new form of gentoo
[06:57] <hende07> so devede and k3b
[06:57] <RickH> I'm not familiar with gentoo
[06:57] <rockets> Justi4, look forward to non-crappy wifi in the next release
[06:58] <preaction> it sounds improbable
[06:58] <rockets> hende07, yes, but k3b from the medibuntu repositories. default k3b sucks.
[06:58] <Justi4> rockets: i cant wait
[06:58] <Kpr> Question! Let's say we have a chunk of unpartitioned space in the middle of two partitions...for example a 20 gb partition between a Windows one and Linux root...could we load up the live cd and resize the root and extended partitions (swap/home) to incorporate this space?
[06:58] <RickH> I quote Picard:  "Things are only [impossible]  improbable until they aren't."
[06:58] <rockets> hende07, http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[06:58] <Justi4> rockets: btw, can i delete the folders on my desktop
[06:58] <neozen> RickH: go get familiar with gentoo
[06:58] <Jordan_U> rockets, Justi3 I have had non crappy wireless for a while using intel cards :)
[06:58] <rockets> Justi4, NEVER! Just kdding. yeah, sure.
[06:58] <rockets> Jordan_U, yes but not all of us have that luxury.
[06:59] <rockets> Jordan_U, some of us are stuck with broadcom
[06:59] <RickH> neozen:  Is that an order, sir? :P  What is it about it that's worth me learning?
[06:59] <hende07> rockets dont have me download the files from  website unless they are a deb cause i dont know how to install them
[06:59] <neozen> RickH: closest thing currently existing to what you're proposing
[06:59] <dissection> Crap, my GNOME is messed up again! Third time today.
[06:59] <Jordan_U> rockets, What card are you using?
[06:59] <rockets> hende07, its a repository
[06:59] <RickH> neozen: cool.
[06:59] <bur[n] er> rockets: in gutsy the broadcom will be easy :)
[06:59] <rockets> hende07, you set it up and then use apt-get
[06:59] <Kpr> Question! Let's say we have a chunk of unpartitioned space in the middle of two partitions...for example a 20 gb partition between a Windows one and Linux root...could we load up the live cd and resize the root and extended partitions (swap/home) to incorporate this space?
[06:59] <Justi4> Jordan_u: i had an intel card, but dell sent a replacement computer with a dell card
[06:59] <rockets> bur[n] er, i know.
[06:59] <rockets> hende07, broadcom something or other. its a dell 1390. not sure what the actual bcom chipset is,.
[06:59] <neozen> RickH: recompiles code best for your current platform when you grab a new package
[06:59] <bur[n] er> rockets: i assume you got yours working now though?
[06:59] <Jordan_U> Justi3, Have you tried bcm43xx-fwcutter ?
[06:59] <rockets> bur[n] er, for a long time now, yes, via ndiswrapper
[06:59] <RickH> Gentoo (from Wikipedia) like it was designed to allow the maximum exposure via real-time compiles.
[06:59] <bur[n] er> rockets: i'm sure it's bcm43xx run "lspci"
[07:00] <neozen> RickH: downside is it takes bloody forever to get a system up and running
[07:00] <RickH> But that's not what I have in mind.
[07:00] <Flannel> Kpr: yes.  Except you can (usually, most filesystems) only expand/shrink the tail, can't move the head of the partition
[07:00] <rockets> bur[n] er, yeah its some iteration of bcm43xx
[07:00] <neozen> RickH: I know
[07:00] <bur[n] er> Justi3: use the packages from cafuego's repository
[07:00] <RickH> I might want to write up a proposal for htis.  even if I can't do it, someone might like hte idea.
[07:00] <RickH> I'm getting tired, my typing is going. :)
[07:00] <bur[n] er> !bcm43xx
[07:00] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[07:00] <rockets> bur[n] er, but without firmware the bcm43xx module is useless, and im too lazy to use fw-cutter
[07:00] <Jordan_U> bur[n] er, What package?
[07:00] <bur[n] er> use the repository on that wiki page
[07:00] <rockets> bur[n] er, Thanks but I already have it working.
[07:00] <bur[n] er> rockets: cool.
[07:00] <Jordan_U> bur[n] er, Standard bcm43xx-fwcutter is all you need in feisty
[07:01] <bur[n] er> Jordan_U: Jordan_U yeah
[07:01] <hende07> i have k3b
[07:01] <rockets> bur[n] er, from that page: Note: For some reason I could not scan for networks, the result of iwlist would be "no networks found", but when I entered the access point information manually it worked fine.
[07:01] <hende07> how do i tell if its the right version
[07:01] <rockets> bur[n] er, ndiswrapper lists networks just fine.
[07:01] <Justi4> How do i keep the same name when i log onto nickserv?
[07:01] <rockets> bur[n] er, ill stick with it.
[07:01] <rockets> Justi4, change your options in xchat
[07:02] <Wheatloaf> Flannel: Well, great. =|
[07:02] <RickH> neozen:  What's your favorite linux distro?
[07:02] <Justi4> rockets: can i do it in PIdgin?
[07:02] <rockets> bur[n] er, does fwcutter list networks?
[07:02] <rockets> Justi4, DONT USE PIDGIN FOR IRC
[07:02] <neozen> RickH: I currently live in xubuntu
[07:02] <bur[n] er> rockets: via network manager yes
[07:02] <rockets> Justi4, while techincally possible, its a bad idea.
[07:02] <Jordan_U> rockets, For most cards yes, for some no
[07:02] <rockets> bur[n] er, ok
[07:02] <rockets> bur[n] er, in that case ill try it, thanks
[07:02] <neozen> RickH: but rpath and foresight have caught my attention as of late
[07:02] <hende07> rockets which one is the good one
[07:02] <bur[n] er> Justi4:  you can do it in pidgin
[07:02] <RickH> What is xubuntu?  I've heard of kubuntu...
[07:02] <rockets> Justi4, sudo apt-get install xchat
[07:02] <Justi4> rockets: i should use xchat then..
[07:02] <bruenig|laptop> RickH, xfce
[07:02] <rockets> RickH, ubuntu using XFCE
[07:03] <iambob> me and cotyrothery are both trying to get WoW to work but it says that 3d acceleration is not working
[07:03] <rockets> bur[n] er, pidgin is great. but not for IRC
[07:03] <neozen> RickH: ubuntu-base but has xfce as the desktop environment
[07:03] <iambob> he is reinstalling ubuntu now
[07:03] <Lokes> bur[n] er: pidgin rocks
[07:03] <neozen> RickH: far lighter weight
[07:03] <Jordan_U> rockets, It has gotten a lot better with feisty ( more supported cards ) if you havn't tried it in Feisty you should, it will be even better in Gutsy :)
[07:03] <doms> hi were i can download the 7.10 version of ubuntu
[07:03] <Lokes> believe nothing negative of what they speak
[07:03] <neozen> RickH: and goes like hell on my new thinkpad
[07:03] <Jordan_U> doms, ubuntu.com
[07:03] <rockets> Jordan_U, I know, due to the new kernel. I was just telling Justi4 that
[07:03] <RickH> neozen:  Nice.
[07:03] <rockets> or rather Justi1
[07:03] <Jordan_U> doms, Oh, sorry, thought you said 7.04
[07:03] <neozen> RickH: conary just looks interesting
[07:04] <Jordan_U> doms, #ubuntu+1 for 7.10
[07:04] <rockets> justi* you can use nickserv to kill your old nicknames. /msg nickserv help
[07:04] <nomad> hey
[07:04] <bur[n] er> doms: you can get it in october :)
[07:04] <nomad> i have a problem with gedit
[07:04] <rockets> nomad, i have a problem with crack-cocaine
[07:04] <bur[n] er> nomad: me too.. i hate that it doesn't save to ftp sites
[07:04] <neozen> RickH: (the package manager for foresight and rpath)
[07:04] <bruenig|laptop>  syntax is /ghost nick password
[07:04] <gregorovius> Hi. When opening gparted, it says "Can't have overlapping partitions" and it doesn't show anything, though everything works ok. what could be wrong?
[07:04] <numus> RickH xubuntu is for systems that supposibly cant handle gnome or kde
[07:04] <RickH> ah
[07:04] <iambob> what is the command for finding you graphics card
[07:04] <bur[n] er> iambob: lspci
[07:04] <rockets> iambob, lspci
[07:04] <numus> xde is suppose to run less resources but has less accessibility
[07:05] <rockets> xfce is great for old pcs
[07:05] <neozen> bur[n] er: I think there's a fuse module for mounting an ftp/ssh account on your filesystem
[07:05] <dooglus> nomad: what now?  do you want us to guess what your problem with gedit is?  or how does this work?
[07:05] <bruenig|laptop> xfce is great for new pcs
[07:05] <rockets> yeah.
[07:05] <bur[n] er> neozen: yeah, but kate can do it just fine... I've been using it
[07:05] <numus> does x run xde or xfce
[07:05] <numus> i never can remember
[07:05] <RickH> I'm totally and completely happy with Ubuntu.  I mean, up one side and down the other happy.
[07:05] <rockets> KDE/kate has better network transparency then Gnome/Gedit, but kde is just SO DAMN UGLY
[07:05] <bur[n] er> xfce
[07:05] <bruenig|laptop> I just put it in my new laptop, put beryl on it
[07:05] <rockets> i cant bring myself to use it
[07:05] <bruenig|laptop> very nice
[07:05] <krinns> hey
[07:05] <neozen> numus: ................eh?
[07:05] <numus> ehh i still dualboot windows xp
[07:05] <krinns> guys
[07:05] <rockets> krinns, Hello there, swashbuckler.
[07:05] <iambob>  um i dont understand any of that can some one help
[07:05] <numus> neozen xde is something else that i am to tired to be able to recall what it is do
[07:05] <krinns> i hace added a local user admin in ubuntu
[07:05] <justi4> rockets: from the list of networks, what do i choose
[07:05] <rockets> justi4, huh?
[07:06] <neozen> numus: you mean xubuntu? runs xfce
[07:06] <numus> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... xde is a linux language coded for the xbox
[07:06] <bur[n] er> rockets: i'm with you on the ugliness, but kate's highlighting kicks the crap out of gedit 2.18
[07:06] <rockets> justi4, oh. the ubuntu one at the top. thats probably the one you are
[07:06] <numus> thats where i use it
[07:06] <bruenig|laptop> vim
[07:06] <krinns> when i do ssh -X admin@localhost
[07:06] <rockets> bur[n] er, I agree. But the ugliness pisses me off too much.
[07:06] <krinns> it gives error
[07:06] <krinns> *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0xbfbab550 ***
[07:06] <Jordan_U> bur[n] er, rockets vim > * :)
[07:06] <krinns> what this mean
[07:06] <neozen> I live in vim
[07:06] <justi4> rockets: what server is this though
[07:06] <rockets> Using vim in this day and age is elitism if you ask me.
[07:06] <bur[n] er> vim doens't work with remote files like kate does either
[07:06] <rockets> vim is a relic.
[07:06] <neozen> lol.... or just crack
[07:06] <dooglus> krinns: it means that the pointer passed to free() was invalid
[07:06] <numus> i am having a problem getting my lexmark printer to work.. followed the zcap installation
[07:06] <nomad> i created a file named "calendar.js" which contains javascript but gedit and nautilus handle this file like a .c file (syntax highlighting in gedit is c and under properties is written C-Source (something this way, i transleted it from german) and MIME Type is text/x-csrc
[07:06] <rockets> even on the console, for me, its nano all the way
[07:07] <numus> and it shows as the right model in system-pref-printer but it wont print
[07:07] <krinns> what i do now
[07:07] <rockets> only thing i use vim for is solaris
[07:07] <krinns> i wont know nay pointer passed to free
[07:07] <neozen> lol
[07:07] <bruenig|laptop> how can you code in nano
[07:07] <dooglus> krinns: raise a bug report, I guess, or try fixing it yourself
[07:07] <krinns> doogls
[07:07] <bur[n] er> nomad: file a bug in bugs.gnome or launchpad.net
[07:07] <nomad> dooglus, sorry, i am slow in writing questions *g
[07:07] <Jordan_U> rockets, There are a lot of things that you can do in vim that you cannot in nano, they are not comparable
[07:07] <rockets> bruenig, nano has highlighting
[07:07] <neozen> rockets: I've just gotten used to the myriad of shortcuts in vim
[07:07] <rockets> Jordan_U, probably true. but i dont code on the terminal. i only change configs with nano
[07:07] <bruenig|laptop> yeah but the controls
[07:07] <bur[n] er> nomad: it might be fixed upstream already... gedit 2.19+ uses a new gtksourceview
[07:08] <rockets> and when editing configs i dont need tons of fancy features
[07:08] <numus> http://photos-906.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sctm/v103/219/86/5206906/n5206906_38679959_5396.jpg
[07:08] <RickH> rockets:  My first package developed for Debian is going to be a GUI wrapper for Bochs.
[07:08] <numus> i am very happy with my new setup with compiz-fusion
[07:08] <rockets> RickH, cool
[07:08] <RickH> rockets:  I've pretty much decided that tonight.
[07:08] <krinns> its when i do ssh -X
[07:08] <neozen> rockets: now I get mad when a like doesn't disappear in notepad et al when I hit ESC-d-d
[07:08] <krinns> only ssh works fine
[07:08] <RickH> rockets:  When that is done, maybe LiveLinux will get a chance. :)
[07:08] <krinns> what this mean
[07:08] <neozen> *line
[07:08] <rockets> neozen, then use gvim
[07:08] <nomad> bur[n] er, that means the new version appears in gutsy?
[07:08] <krinns> is this xhost + prb
[07:08] <rockets> neozen, its vim but with, you know, modernity
[07:08] <neozen> rockets: lol.... try that on a server
[07:08] <dooglus> krinns: what about if you use -Y instead of -X?
[07:09] <RickH> Bochs has so much potential to be a usable emulation environment for many OSes, etc.
[07:09] <bur[n] er> nomad: it does... it's there now :)  i'm using 2.19.2 right now
[07:09] <rockets> neozen, yes, and on servers i use vi.
[07:09] <RickH> Bochs:  But its UI is horrible.
[07:09] <numus> Now if only i can get animusic to be my screensaver i will be in great shape
[07:09] <rockets> neozen, unless I'm running an ubuntu server (which I often am), and then I use nano :-P
[07:09] <neozen> lowest common denominator ... vi is on everything...
[07:09] <rockets> neozen, we run a whole host of vmware servers on ubuntu at work
[07:09] <RickH> Anybody have a Zaurus?  And run OpenZaurus?
[07:09] <NoobSauce> I just installed the latest feisty on my comp, and I can only type in all caps. I tried keyboard auto-detect, and it pinned it as us layout (which is correct I'm pretty sure). I tried doing a ctrl-alt-f1 to type in terminal, and there, the keyboard works as expected. Also, the keyboard works fine with other ubuntu boxes running feisty... any ideas what could be wrong with the xserver setup?
[07:10] <rockets> neozen, right thats why its good to know how to do Esc-i
[07:10] <iambob> http://pastebin.com/m52614cd5 can someone translate this for me
[07:10] <rockets> neozen, :-P
[07:10] <rockets> neozen, oh yeah and esc-x
[07:10] <RickH> NoobSauce:  That's interesting.
[07:10] <Justi1> where do I go to change startup programs?
[07:10] <rockets> thats important too :-D
[07:10] <dooglus> neozen: notepad is on more machines that vi is...
[07:10] <RickH> NoobSauce:  Have you tried another keyboard?
[07:10] <numus> NoobSauce is this a regular keyboard or some special gaming keyboard
[07:10] <iambob> i need to know what my graphics card is
[07:10] <bruenig|laptop> Justi1, system>preferences>sessions
[07:10] <neozen> rockets: vim just seems to jump all over vi
[07:10] <rockets> dooglus, thats really not applicable
[07:10] <dooglus> rockets: "wine notepad.exe"
[07:10] <nomad> bur[n] er, ahhh, a gutsy user here :) i await it eagerly.
[07:10] <rockets> neozen, I use vi and vim interchangably
[07:10] <AngryElf> how do I give my normal users the ability to use /sbin/shutdown?
[07:10] <RickH> iambob:  lspci
[07:10] <rockets> dooglus, very funny. Not all linux boxes have wine.
[07:10] <dooglus> rockets: "lowest common denominator" :)
[07:10] <Jordan_U> NoobSauce, Can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:10] <numus> sudo
[07:10] <bur[n] er> iambob: open a terminal and type "lspci"
[07:10] <neozen> rockets: multi-undo alone is worth the jump to vim
[07:10] <bur[n] er> iambob: or get "sysinfo"
[07:10] <iambob> http://pastebin.com/m52614cd5
[07:10] <bur[n] er> !info sysinfo
[07:10] <ubotu> sysinfo: Simple GTK program that shows some UNIX/Linux system information. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 106 kB, installed size 400 kB
[07:10] <iambob> thats it
[07:10] <rockets> dooglus, and even if they did, i wouldnt use notepad
[07:11] <NoobSauce> it's a gaming keyboard (Saitek eclipse). It works in reverse basically, you have to hold shift to type lowercase. Caps lock has no effect
[07:11] <neozen> AngryElf: you don't want to do that
[07:11] <rockets> dooglus, I was just bashing VI a second ago. I use nano and gedit. We're just talking about servers at this point
[07:11] <neozen> AngryElf: only admins should have the right to down the box
[07:11] <numus> NoobSauce you try restarting? that sometimes happens to be if i hold a key down to long and some lock comes on
[07:11] <bur[n] er> iambob: you have an intel 82810
[07:11] <nomad> i interested whether there will be an update for firefox in gutsy... it's the same like last year, but there wasn't any update for firefox
[07:11] <rockets> dooglus, when you get wine notepad.exe to work on a server that has no gui, you let me know.
[07:11] <dooglus> rockets: me neither, but then I wouldn't use vi either.  I was just pointing out that if your reason for chosing an editor is that it's widely available, then notepad is your logical choice.  it's on far more computers than any other editor.
[07:11] <krinns> hey
[07:11] <bur[n] er> iambob: aka i810 driver in feisty
[07:11] <krinns> dooglus
[07:11] <dooglus> krinns: ?
[07:11] <krinns> u work on sudo in debain
[07:11] <NoobSauce> I'm working on the pastebin, have it in a sec. Restarted twice already, tried a reconfiguration of the xserver-xorg as well, just in case I typed something wrong. No effect
[07:11] <neozen> dooglus: lol... you do raise a valid... though despised point
[07:12] <rockets> dooglus, except that I define widely availible as widely availible on servers that have no gui.
[07:12] <numus> NoobSauce also going to sound stupid... have you tried the capslock key?
[07:12] <krinns> i want my loacl admin user to run gone-cups-manager as root
[07:12] <spike724> anyone have a HTC Excalibur?
[07:12] <dooglus> neozen: it's bug #1 in launchpad :)
[07:12] <nomad> i hope this year will change because version three offers nice functions for webdesigner like rgba :)
[07:12] <neozen> krinns: then use sudo
[07:12] <eboyjr> How do you pronounce Ubuntu? Is it You-bun-tu or Ooh-bun-tu
[07:12] <numus> Stupid gaming keyboards... they have more crap then you need
[07:12] <NoobSauce> numus: caps lock has no effect - on, off, no effect except that the light turns on/off
[07:12] <rockets> brb
[07:12] <bur[n] er> eboyjr: according tot he faq, it's oo-BOON-too
[07:12] <onexused> I have some jpeg files that can't be read by gthumb or the gimp.  The versions of gthumb and the gimp that I have on another computer (Fedora 7) can open these files.  This computer can open other jpegs.  What gives?
[07:12] <krinns> noezen i did
[07:13] <dooglus> eboyjr: like ooo-bunt-ooo
[07:13] <numus> NoobSauce sounds like you might have held the shiftkey to long and it setup a sticky key on it... or you might need the correct drivers.. but more then likely the stickykey theory
[07:13] <NoobSauce> the keyboard is actually pretty basic... it's a standard keyboard with only 3 sound and one backlight buttons that are out of the ordinary...
[07:13] <krinns> but as i login to as ssh -X admin@localhost
[07:13] <numus> I get it all the time if my cat jumps on my keyboard (and she does)
[07:13] <krinns> n run gnome-cups-manager
[07:13] <bur[n] er> dooglus: it's more of a "boon" in the middle... look at the examples and see Nelson Mandela say it ;)
[07:13] <krinns> it wont open GUI mode
[07:13] <krinns> its gives display error
[07:13] <RickH> eboyjr:  Look in the examples on the LiveCD.  You'll see Nelson mandella speaking about Ubuntu.
[07:13] <Jordan_U> eboyjr, Look at the video that comes with Ubuntu
[07:13] <dooglus> bur[n] er: right.  I was forgetting
[07:13] <krinns> i did xhost +
[07:14] <neozen> krinns: if you're speaking to someone in particular... its best to put their name in the message
[07:14] <krinns> now it opens but admin can not pause or resume jobs
[07:14] <dooglus> krinns: before the 'ssh -X', can you do things like 'xclock' and have windows appear from commands you run in that terminal?
[07:14] <RickH> eboyjr:  Also in /home/username/Examples
[07:14] <krinns> am talking to u neozen
[07:14] <dooglus> krinns: ie. is your DISPLAY set correctly, etc?
[07:14] <krinns> googlus
[07:14] <krinns> wht
[07:14] <numus> NoobSauce try crtl-alt-backspace that will reboot X
[07:14] <pr4bh> hi guys, how do i make my gnome bar totally transparent? the middle bit is transparent but sides are not :(
[07:14] <numus> See if it works then
[07:14] <krinns> well when i do echo $DISPLAY
[07:15] <krinns> it wont show some tjing
[07:15] <neozen> krinns: it helps to highlight your message in the irc client on their machine (this room moves really fast at times and its very easy for your message to get lost in the shuffle)
[07:15] <dooglus> krinns: and if you do 'xclock'?
[07:15] <bur[n] er> pr4bh: use a different theme that works with transparency
[07:15] <RickH> See you all tomorrow (or later today, rather).
[07:15] <pr4bh> ok :)
[07:15] <NoobSauce> numus: I've already rebooted the comp 3 times
[07:15] <numus> Random shit works and doesn't work in ubuntu.. it is an experience everytime i turn on the computer
[07:15] <krinns> well only gnome-cups-manager will give error
[07:15] <krinns> any idea
[07:15] <krinns> its really odd
[07:15] <NoobSauce> stickeykeys also isn't on. I literally just installed ubuntu on the box and didn't touch anything before it had this behavior
[07:15] <krinns> dooglus
[07:15] <neozen> numus: well... you'd have to read up on your hardware.... some of it just plain isn't compatible
[07:16] <dooglus> numus: that's a feature designed to make ubuntu more familiar to windows users
[07:16] <numus> Noobsauce try system-pref-keyboard
[07:16] <dooglus> krinns: what happens if you run 'xclock' in that same terminal?
[07:16] <neozen> krinns: I missed all the things you said before you used my name
[07:16] <NoobSauce> pastebin = http://pastebin.com/d1f061617
[07:16] <numus> noobsauce layout options and what is the capslock key behavior set to
[07:16] <brisr> hello gang..
[07:17] <neozen> krinns: now you know
[07:17] <brisr> I am new to ubuntu just installed
[07:17] <neozen> brisr: greetings, salutations, and moo
[07:17] <brisr> I love so much..
[07:17] <neozen> brisr: and welcome
[07:17] <brisr> thank you.
[07:17] <NoobSauce> numus: capslock is set to default
[07:18] <neozen> brisr: anything in particular we can help you with today?
[07:18] <numus> neozen naa.. not hardware problems.. i run ubuntu under a virutal disk on an ntfs partition.. that is my problem
[07:18] <brisr> I wanna connect to my MAC
[07:18] <neozen> numus: lol....
[07:18] <brisr> i can see it just when I connect it just spings
[07:18] <brisr> spins rather.
[07:18] <neozen> brisr: lol.....
[07:18] <neozen> brisr: as in connect to shared files on your mac?
[07:19] <numus> neozen well what do you expect.. i still have to run a primary windows server untill some more software gets done for linux.. so the only way to dualboot safely without repartitioning is virtualdisk
[07:19] <brisr> yes.
[07:19] <neozen> how the heck does one share files on a mac?
[07:19] <brisr> i set file sharing on my mac and set that all up..
[07:19] <brisr> share the entire thing
[07:19] <dooglus> neozen: I use bluetooth
[07:19] <brisr> you just start file sharing.
[07:19] <neozen> brisr: yes... but its the implementation that they use to do it that I'm interested in
[07:19] <cafuego> neozen: samba, nfs, appleshare, bluetooth
[07:20] <cafuego> oh, or sftp/scp
[07:20] <neozen> brisr: there you go... see if you can configure _how_ its sharing the files
[07:20] <dooglus> cafuego: or FTP, sftp, http, sneakernet, etc
[07:20] <NoobSauce> neozen: best way is to set up your ubuntu box with an ssh server
[07:20] <numus> Noobsauce type this into terminal sudo xmodmap -e clear Lock
[07:21] <neozen> NoobSauce: indeed
[07:21] <brisr> well I use OS X and Windows all day at work for webprogramming...
[07:21] <NoobSauce> just install the openssh package
[07:21] <brisr> I am in love with UBUNTU
[07:21] <brisr> for the house..
[07:21] <NoobSauce> it will autoconfigure and everything. You don't even have to set anything up
[07:21] <dooglus> brisr: I'm hot for abstract concepts, too
[07:21] <rockets> Jordan_U, THANK YOU. that worked so well.
[07:21] <neozen> NoobSauce: I think you mean openssh-server
[07:21] <rockets> Jordan_U, my only question is, I get that they cant ship the firmware, but why cant the restricted-manager do it
[07:21] <numus> Noobsauce ...
[07:21] <NoobSauce> neozen: yeah
[07:21] <brisr> well I guess I will keep figuring it out..
[07:21] <brisr> thanks guys..
[07:21] <brisr> good night
[07:21] <Jordan_U> rockets, It will in Gutsy :)
[07:22] <neozen> brisr: hey wait.. don't go
[07:22] <brisr> ..?
[07:22] <brisr> whats up.
[07:22] <rockets> Jordan_U, right but it couldnt have been that hard to do for feisty
[07:22] <neozen> brisr: do you want this working tonight?
[07:22] <rockets> Jordan_U, i could probably write a ruby script to do it in about 5 mins
[07:22] <neozen> brisr: or can it wait?
[07:22] <brisr> not really. its midnight in Texas
[07:22] <Nutubuntu> Are there any alternatives to Firefox that are more stable, but still offer extensions similar to FF (esp. greasemonkey)?
[07:22] <brisr> it can wait.
[07:22] <neozen> brisr: ah... ok then
[07:22] <rockets> Nutubuntu, no?
[07:22] <brisr> I just found IRC
[07:22] <rockets> firefox is fairly stable
[07:22] <neozen> brisr: the room will be here when you return
[07:22] <NoobSauce> numus: I'm doing this on another computer, so I have to type it in, that's why this is all taking so long
[07:22] <brisr> never new yall were here.
[07:23] <brisr> yes thank you.
[07:23] <Jordan_U> rockets, The reason it doesn't now is because it is the only restricted thing that they can't include on the liveCD and enable while running, and it seems absurd to have to connect to the internet to get wireless working, but they decided that it was better to have it and be somewhat absurd then to not have it at all
[07:23] <neozen> brisr: here is where you find those most willing to help
[07:23] <Nutubuntu> :/ not terribly stable on my box, rockets - don't know why; it's a new box with Feisty on it ... A64 dual core, maybe that's it - running the 32bit kernel
[07:23] <Jordan_U> rockets, That is just my understanding though
[07:23] <brisr> I see that..
[07:23] <neozen> brisr: aside from ubuntuforums.org of course
[07:23] <brisr> yes. of course.  Thank you again
[07:23] <Haulin_Coal> what happens when I remove the /etc/event.d/tty[3-6] ?
[07:23] <brisr> well goodnight.
[07:23] <rockets> Jordan_U, ok that makes sense. but what about that changes for gutsy? they just changed their minds?
[07:24] <brisr> 5:45 comes to soon.
[07:24] <NoobSauce> numus: It now says 'xmodmap: please release the following keys within 2 seconds: Return (keysym 0xff0d, keycode 36) - Caps_lock (keysym 0xffe5, keycode 66)
[07:24] <rockets> Jordan_U, or do they use wl_apasta
[07:24] <numus> k
[07:24] <neozen> brisr: we're on nearly the same schedule here in chicago
[07:24] <NoobSauce> numus: then, it says 4 seconds, then 8, then 16, then 32, then "unable to set modifier mapping, keyboard problem"... but there is no problem with my keyboard...
[07:24] <krinns> hey neozen
[07:24] <NoobSauce> numus: hold on, let me try with my current comp
[07:24] <neozen> krinns: yes?
[07:24] <krinns> wehn i do ssh -X admin@localhost
[07:25] <krinns> it gives me glibc error
[07:25] <neozen> krinns: ok ::looks up the -X flag for ssh::
[07:25] <krinns> but when i do ssh from another machine
[07:25] <krinns> it gets in
[07:25] <neozen> aw hell.... x11 forwarding
[07:25] <krinns> from my machine i do ssh -X admin@10.71.8.5
[07:25] <neozen> krinns: that's not something I know anything about
[07:25] <krinns> its gets into machine
[07:25] <bluebanana> i'd like to create a website. What programs are there for beginners?
[07:26] <neozen> bluebanana: you want visual or code?
[07:26] <krinns> what the idea then
[07:26] <Flannel> !html | bluebanana
[07:26] <ubotu> bluebanana: html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem, and Nvu. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com
[07:26] <krinns> ?
[07:26] <NoobSauce> numus: yeah, with this comp, the keyboard seems to work just fine... what's the diff then? maybe a motherboard driver issue or something? But then why does text-only terminal work fine, but X11 does not...?
[07:26] <rockets> Quanta+ is probably the best but its too ugly to use
[07:26] <bluebanana> neozen, Visual is best!!! With maybe a code option, too. But visual is what I primarily want, I think.
[07:26] <NoobSauce> it seems Ubuntu is never installed without confuzzlement from one component :P
[07:26] <numus> naa
[07:26] <HHP2K> Hello everyone!
[07:26] <rockets> HELLO!
[07:27] <neozen> krinns: well... my guess is.... you can't forward X to localhost... as you're already running it
[07:27] <bluebanana> rockets, quanta is best but too ugly?
[07:27] <bluebanana> hmm?
[07:27] <numus> Noobsauce it is possible that your keyboard isn't us configure due to those extra keys...
[07:27] <rockets> bluebanana, i mean I like quanta in terms of features. But I can't stand looking at it.
[07:27] <HHP2K> Quick question for y'all: how do you chmod a .sh file to make it executable?
[07:27] <numus> Noobsauce which keyboard is it again
[07:27] <bluebanana> what do you experts recommend from the list: bluefish, quanta, screem, nvu?
[07:27] <neozen> bluebanana: there are limited options for visual-ish editors in linux
[07:27] <Jordan_U> rockets, AFIK they just changed their minds or just hadn't gotten to developing it beforehand
[07:27] <astro76> HHP2K, chmod +x file.sh
[07:27] <rockets> Jordan_U, hmm
[07:27] <bluebanana> neozen, so it's a matter of typing html/code?
[07:27] <neozen> bluebanana: have you considered just using open office and saving in .html?
[07:27] <Haulin_Coal> what happens if I comment out getty(s)
[07:28] <NoobSauce> numus: this is hilarious, but I found out what the problem was. I plugged in my other keyboard's wireless adapter because I was transferring stuff between one comp to another
[07:28] <neozen> bluebanana: works just fine for basic pages
[07:28] <bluebanana> neozen, what about cascading menu stuff?
[07:28] <HHP2K> astro76: Thanks =D
[07:28] <krinns> so
[07:28] <neozen> bluebanana: ......cascading menus....
[07:28] <numus> NoobSauce this is a wireless keyboard?
[07:28] <NoobSauce> numus: anyways, the wireless keyboard is sitting on the floor, and it had some stuff on it, which was pressing down the shift key
[07:28] <krinns> but thats odd
[07:28] <Jordan_U>  !html | bluebanana
[07:28] <ubotu> bluebanana: html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem, and Nvu. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com
[07:28] <rockets> btw Nvu is NOT in feisty as far as i know
[07:28] <bluebanana> and I want my pages to have ... um, what do you call them... navigational paths thingies on every page
[07:28] <numus> NoobSauce LAUGH!
[07:28] <krinns> i am running to 25 machines this is 1 time
[07:28] <neozen> bluebanana: sounds like ajax type stuff
[07:28] <bluebanana> Jordan_U, that's the second time already. 8-)
[07:28] <neozen> bluebanana: plenty on the net to read about that
[07:29] <numus> NoobSauce that command i had you put into terminal was to disable caps lock.. make sure your capslock still works if not you need to reenable it
[07:29] <NoobSauce> numus: so the shift key was being held down on the other keyboard :P So stupid :P and I was so hasty to blame Ubuntu! Ubuntu++ Noobsauce--
[07:29] <Nutubuntu> nvu I guess - bluebanana - if you're trying to do anything fancy, it's unlikely you'll manage it without knowing how HTML is written ... time to crack some virtual books.
[07:29] <bluebanana> neozen, ajax for a simple home / subfolder / 3rdDown thingy on every page?
[07:29] <NoobSauce> numus: the keyboard seems to work fine now... boy was that stupid
[07:29] <Jordan_U> bluebanana, Sorry, it's practically a reflex :)
[07:29] <Haulin_Coal> HEY
[07:29] <rockets> bluebanana, yeah. if you dont learn html, you can do wysiwig editing but it comes out looking horrible
[07:29] <HHP2K> oh oh - another question, where's the "sessions" folder in ubuntu?
[07:29] <numus> NoobSauce naa ubuntu does have some problems.. not many.. compiz-fusion has a ton though i keep running into them :-p
[07:29] <Haulin_Coal> what happens when I comment out/remove getty(s)
[07:29] <HHP2K> I need to access the start programs folder.
[07:29] <bluebanana> ok. I'll check out w3schools.com, as ubotu recommended
[07:29] <Jordan_U> Haulin_Coal, Where ?
[07:30] <neozen> bluebanana: you'd have to be more descriptive as to what you are looking for
[07:30] <Haulin_Coal> such as tty3-6
[07:30] <neozen> bluebanana: those folder listings are usually generated on the fly just so you know
[07:30] <iambob> the graphics card wasnt right
[07:30] <Jordan_U> Haulin_Coal, Why don't you want them?
[07:30] <NoobSauce> numus: I think Beryl is less buggy... I've always had issues with Compiz... I've been running Ubuntu exclusively for about a year on 3 comps. The hardware support is pretty amazing actually considering most of it is reverse-engineered
[07:30] <Haulin_Coal> I was looking at performance hacks online
[07:30] <NoobSauce> numus: anyways, thanks for helping the noob :P
[07:30] <numus> Noobsauce naa beryl is more buggy... compiz-fusion is brand new...
[07:31] <neozen> NoobSauce: lol.. well you've got a good sense of humor
[07:31] <Haulin_Coal> said something about removing those...thought I would look more into it befroe I did anything rash
[07:31] <bluebanana> neozen, this is what i mean. pls check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=414194. See the top part:  Ubuntu Forums > The Ubuntu Forum Community  > Absolute Beginner Talk . that's what i want on every page.
[07:31] <Haulin_Coal> respawn
[07:31] <bluebanana> neozen, something like that
[07:31] <NoobSauce> numus: when did compiz-fusion come out, and how's it different from compiz or beryl?
[07:31] <Jordan_U> NoobSauce, It hasn't "come out" it's still beta
[07:31] <numus> NoobSauce not sure.. but it is a little more stable... has some nicer features and is more streamline
[07:31] <NoobSauce> numus: I guess I could just RTFM, nevermind... but it's less buggy than beryl or compiz you say...? I may have to try that...
[07:32] <Jordan_U> NoobSauce, It may be that it will be more stable, but I doubt that it is now
[07:32] <neozen> bluebanana: ahh...
[07:32] <Haulin_Coal> disabling getty ttyX respawning
[07:32] <Haulin_Coal> I think its to free up memory
[07:32] <numus> Noobsauce http://photos-906.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sctm/v103/219/86/5206906/n5206906_38679959_5396.jpg if you can see that that is
[07:32] <numus> Noobsauce that is my setup right now with compiz-fusion
[07:32] <Jordan_U> Haulin_Coal, All 2k that they take up ;)
[07:32] <random1> ...
[07:32] <Nutubuntu> bluebanana,  that kind of a breadcrumb trail can either be hardcoded for each page or scripted. The first is easy, the second is also easy-ish but only after you've understood how ... if that makes any sense ...
[07:33] <neozen> hey guys... the cascading popup menus that show up in the top right on ubuntu.com's main site are done w/ ajax right?
[07:33] <Haulin_Coal> I suppose...no point in it then?
[07:33] <NoobSauce> Jordan_U: compiz just never worked well for me, it hosed all my xservers. Beryl is pretty good, although running it on integrated intel graphics is pretty taxing for my laptop... it crashes a lot due to heat...
[07:33] <RoC_MasterMind> neozen, either javascript or CSS
[07:33] <RoC_MasterMind> neozen, not ajax.
[07:33] <Flannel> neozen: no, just HTML/CSS
[07:33] <Jordan_U> Haulin_Coal, No point at all, and they can be very useful, I wouldn't trust any guide from somebody who suggests something like that
[07:33] <bluebanana> Nutubuntu, the first means I have to type it for every page? That shouldn't be too hard for now, as our webpage has less than 20 pages
[07:34] <NoobSauce> numus: sweet :) are they working beryl into default ubuntu anytime soon? or is it still just something you can get to if you're 'in the know'?
[07:34] <HHP2K> Hey guys, where's the "Sessions > start programs" folder?
[07:34] <Haulin_Coal> righty-o then...good thing I asked
[07:34] <random1> hey?
[07:34] <neozen> Flannel: ah... ok... bluebanana is wondering how they did it...
[07:34] <oga1> anybody in here having trouble with WPA and feisty?
[07:34] <neozen> Flannel: and I just didn't have time to scope out the code
[07:34] <neozen> oga1: no problems here at all
[07:34] <Jordan_U> HHP2K, System -> Preferences -> Sessions
[07:34] <neozen> oga1: make sure the network is broadcasting its ssid
[07:35] <Flannel> bluebanana: http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/  but, this is more for #css or #html than here.
[07:35] <r0b-> nixternal
[07:35] <neozen> oga1: and network-manager will detect it just fine
[07:35] <NoobSauce> oga1: yeah, I had issues. It won't connect to some networks... WEP seems solid though, but WPA is flaky for me (macbook + internal wireless card)
[07:35] <neozen> ahhhh
[07:35] <neozen> macbook
[07:35] <neozen> ..that explains it
[07:35] <alecwh> How do you install a TFF font in Ubuntu, so it can be available for GIMP?
[07:35] <neozen> alecwh: you mean ttf?
[07:35] <HHP2K> ooh, so I was looking for it wrong. Thanks Jordan_U =D
[07:35] <krinns> neozen any idea
[07:35] <krinns> what to do
[07:35] <alecwh> Yes, sorry.
[07:36] <jtong> hi all, i'm having problem getting my usb mouse/keyboard to work
[07:36] <iambob> can any1 tell me what my graphics card is http://pastebin.com/m13c3ef5b
[07:36] <oga1> neozen i just got it running, took me 3 hours RT61 chipset does not talk to network manager its' all good now... but was hoping i could help somebody before I forget what I did
[07:36] <oga1> night all
[07:36] <Jordan_U> HHP2K, np :)
[07:36] <alecwh> neozen, do you know how?
[07:36] <puff> I'm having problems with my wireless.  "sudo dhclient eth1" says DHCPACK from 192.168.1.1, bound to 192.168.1.117, but then dns gets nothing and "ping 192.168.1.1" gets "destination unreachable."
[07:36] <jtong> what can i do if /proc/bus/input/devices is not showing the correct devices??
[07:36] <neozen> alecwh: well all the basic microsoft fonts can be installed by installing msttcorefonts
[07:36] <NoobSauce> neozen: before you say anything, the laptop at the time was the best bang for the buck. It was like $300 under the closest competition... they don't even care if you install ubuntu on it when doing repairs/maintenance unlike some companies (ahem: dell)
[07:37] <alecwh> Yes, but I want to install custom fonts.
[07:37] <neozen> alecwh: as to how to install any others... no ideas
[07:37] <numus> NoobSauce were you able to see that picture... i managed to freeze ubuntu
[07:37] <Jordan_U> NoobSauce, Did you follow the isntructions @ wiki.com/Macbook ?
[07:37] <neozen> alecwh: I'm sure there's something in the forums about it
[07:37] <alecwh> ok
[07:37] <random1> =/
[07:37] <alecwh> i'll search.
[07:37] <Jordan_U> iambob, intel
[07:37] <NoobSauce> neozen: I think now they're still pretty well priced, but I got a killer deal on it which made it by far cheaper than anything else similarly configured
[07:37] <neozen> alecwh: I'll search as well
[07:37] <NoobSauce> numus: yeah, it's pretty cool
[07:37] <Nutubuntu> alecwh,  neozen - drop fonts into ~/.fonts and they'll be available to GIMP, OO.o, etc.
[07:37] <neozen> NoobSauce: no worries mon
[07:37] <Jordan_U> iambob, Resolution problems?
[07:37] <neozen> NoobSauce: you buy what you can
[07:37] <random1> so like, I've been trying to install ubuntu but it looks like the partitioning keeps freezing up.
[07:38] <lazz0> does the ubuntu server have the same software as the desktop ? or only htpp servers and so on
[07:38] <neozen> NoobSauce: and then if you're lucky ... we help get it up and running
[07:38] <neozen> NoobSauce: same thing happens with all computer manufacturers
[07:38] <NoobSauce> Jordan_U: yeah, that saved my arse!
[07:38] <Nutubuntu> manny, that was fun ... try to see if ubuntu.com is using ajax for those menus and boom. no firefox, no x ... it's nice to be back.
[07:38] <iambob> Jordan_U: i reconfig. for a i810 is that what that is a i810
[07:38] <puff> Hm, "sudo ifdown eth1" followed by "sudo ifup eth1" invokes the usual dhclient stuff, get the usal DHCPACK response, then after that "RTNETLINK answers:  File exists" and then "run-parts: /etc/network/if-up.d/avahi-autoipd exited with return code 2"
[07:38] <b0ne> lazz0: i think it is the same minus the desktop environments with the option to install lamp/etc
[07:39] <Nutubuntu> random1,  had you tried to partition for a RAID, by any chance?
[07:39] <neozen> NoobSauce: I've had good experience with my thinkpad... but others have not...
[07:39] <Jordan_U> iambob, That driver should work
[07:39] <NoobSauce> neozen: apple didn't care actually, which really surprised me... When they saw that I had a modified bootloader to load ubuntu (when they were booting it up to see if it worked), they didn't even react
[07:39] <random1> No?
[07:39] <Flannel> lazz0: They use the same repositories.  So any software is available for either.  The only difference is the default install confgiuration
[07:39] <puff> neozen: I have, up until recently :-).
[07:39] <Jordan_U> iambob, But you may need 915resolution to get full resolution
[07:39] <Haulin_Coal> HAHA...that's two hello, world!s I've gotten to work
[07:39] <NoobSauce> neozen: my first laptop was a thinkpad T21, which was pretty cool. I had no hardware issues whatsoever... even got better battery than windoze :P
[07:40] <iambob> kk thanks
[07:40] <lazz0> oki thank you
[07:40] <Haulin_Coal> one in firefox as a plugin...one in perl
[07:40] <neozen> NoobSauce: good news is... mac has pretty much locked their hardware... whats in a mac now... will be in a mac for a while.... aside from processor, bus, etc... and now that their on a bsd base... support will get better
[07:40] <numus> Hmm when do they update compiz and all those.. i just got a new software update notification
[07:40] <furenku> can  anybody tell me how to add a patch to the wine src so i can build it ?
[07:40] <Flannel> furenku: Why not use the wine repos?
[07:40] <puff> neozen: I've had good luck with my thinkpad, though when I upgraded to feisty, some things (like hibernation) broke.  And last week my fan died, finally got the rpelacement and installed it this afternoon, and  now I'm having problems getting the wireless to work.
[07:40] <Nutubuntu> random1,  it was a guess ... I ran into some partitioning trouble, and it seemed to have been caused by my having started to set up a RAID. Hm ... you could try the Alternative CD instead of the Desktop ... sometimes that works where the D. doesn't
[07:40] <furenku> Flannel: I need to add a special patch to add MIDI compatibility to wine...
[07:40] <neozen> puff: I never used hibernation... made things go boom
[07:41] <daniel_washere> Enabling bluetooth i disabled :)
[07:41] <NoobSauce> neozen: that's actually a big reason I wanted to go with them. If I had an issue, there would be a million other people with the exact same comp having the same issues - no slight hardware differences to throw you off (other than hard drive or ram size differences)... that's a huge plus when getting support.
[07:41] <lazz0> and do u know if swiftfox can use the plugins from firefox?
[07:41] <random1> Is there any good sites on installing the server and issues?
[07:41] <neozen> puff: bringing the box down, then back up again never seemed to take more then a few minutes anyway
[07:41] <furenku> Flannel: I have the patch its like a long text
[07:41] <Jordan_U> neozen, What you said about hardware being locked is not true, the hardware has changed a lot in macbook pro's between revidions
[07:41] <Jordan_U> *revisions
[07:41] <neozen> random1: depends... what are you planning on doing?
[07:42] <b0ne> google.com/search?q=ubuntu+server+guide
[07:42] <puff> neozen: Well, suspend didn't work on, hm, hoary I think, but hibernate did, so I got into the habit.  Plus, hibernate lets me easily dual boot into windows on the rare occasions that I have to.
[07:42] <neozen> Jordan_U: perhaps
[07:42] <NoobSauce> puff: will manual hibernate work? When I upgraded to feisty, for the first couple weeks the lid closing would not hibernate the computer, but you could do it if you manually hibernated
[07:42] <numus> man these updates lag my system
[07:42] <NoobSauce> Jordan_U: I have macbook (not pro). Those systems are basically identical
[07:42] <random1> Thanks.
[07:42] <neozen> numus: yes... updating causes lag.... no real shock there
[07:42] <puff> NoobSauce: Hm, no, haven't gotten hibernate to work since I upgraded.  I'm told this is more common with thinkpads, tho.
[07:42] <random1> I looked around for something like that and couldn't find it.
[07:42] <random1> Guess my google queries weren't good enough either. =P
[07:43] <neozen> numus: tends to max out your processor for a bit
[07:43] <numus> neozen was a sarcastic remark
[07:43] <b0ne> ;o)
[07:43] <random1> Oh
[07:43] <neozen> at least they don't crash halfway through rebooting while applying them
[07:43] <jikanter> can anyone ping security.ubuntu.com at the moment? I can't seem to get through
[07:43] <jmak642> hello all
[07:43] <random1> That doesn't have much help, =/
[07:43] <numus> i really like this theme in emerald... has some nice features like stick and scroll up into titlebar
[07:44] <jmak642> any chance someone can help me with dvd watching?
[07:44] <neozen> jikanter: might not allow ping
[07:44] <NoobSauce> I can't ping, much lag
[07:44] <jmak642> i am having a hard time getting the packages
[07:44] <jikanter> neozen: or even apt-get update
[07:44] <numus> jmak642 totem should work
[07:44] <neozen> jikanter: nope.... same issue here
[07:45] <neozen> jikanter: much lag on security
[07:45] <iambo1> that cant be my graphics card B/C everytime i try to run Beryl my screen whites out
[07:45] <Flannel> furenku: check out the `patch` program
[07:45] <jikanter> glad I'm not the only one. That would have worried me. Thanks neozen
[07:45] <NoobSauce> jikanter: 100% packet loss w/ 76 packets @ 30 seconds
[07:45] <neozen> jikanter: unless some huge hole opened up and they're shoving out updates as fast as possible... that shouldn't be down
[07:45] <numus> jmak642 in Sound and Video do you have Movie Player.. that is totem movie player.. works well with dvds for me
[07:46] <neozen> jikanter: no... its not just you
[07:46] <furenku> Flannel: thanks ill check it our
[07:46] <doyley> hey guys i tryed burning an avi with kb3 but it didnt play in my dvd player..any idea on why???
[07:46] <neozen> any of the repo admins monitor the chat?
[07:46] <Phrozen_One> how come xubuntu is advertised for low resource machines, yet its consuming 470\512 mb after bootup?
[07:46] <doyley> only way it would work is with devede
[07:46] <NoobSauce> jikanter: weird thing is that I'm doing an update from security.ubuntu.com and I'm getting 140Kb/s (which is about max for my connection)
[07:47] <NoobSauce> jikanter: maybe they just disabled ping...?
[07:47] <neozen> Phrozen_One: well.... scope out what top is telling you
[07:47] <numus> Anyone have avant and know what the terminal command for it i s
[07:47] <b0ne> i can't connect to security.ubuntu.com either (co.comast.com)
[07:47] <neozen> Phrozen_One: how much of that used ram is just cached?
[07:47] <jmak642> numus: totem wants me to install some plugin
[07:47] <Flannel> Phrozen_One: unused RAM is wasted RAM.  The linux kernel puts as much stuff as it can in RAM, even if it's not necessarily using it (so it'll be accessed faster when you are using it).  If you need it for oher stuff, it'll swap stuff around all smart-like
[07:47] <numus> !codec
[07:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:48] <neozen> Phrozen_One: indeed
[07:48] <Frogzoo> Phrozen_One: swapon -s ?
[07:48] <Phrozen_One> neozen, your correct, without the cache its much less
[07:48] <Parisi> Wow, dial up from a cell phone, never knew id attempt that :0
[07:48] <numus> Jmak check those pages for information about video issues they are really helpful
[07:48] <jmak642> well i am trying to install the ubuntu restricted packages but i get failures.
[07:48] <Phrozen_One> 416\512 is free
[07:48] <Jordan_U> How do I turn off mouse gestures and or set up my synaptics touchpad to ignore palm hits when typing?
[07:48] <bluebanana> i was given an FTP url and a password in order to do some "webmastering". What program do i use to access this ftp thingie?
[07:48] <Phrozen_One> bluebanana, gftp
[07:48] <jmak642> numus: like it fails to download the packages
[07:48] <rocky_> czesc
[07:48] <neozen> Phrozen_One: well then there you go... and xubuntu questions should usually be directed to the #xubuntu room
[07:48] <numus> which package
[07:49] <Frogzoo> Phrozen_One: nothing to worry about
[07:49] <neozen> Phrozen_One: ..but they might be sleeping now.... so I'll answer any you might have
[07:49] <Parisi> brb
[07:49] <rocky_> jest tu jakis polak
[07:49] <furenku> Flannel: the thing is i got on one hand a tarball, on the other a text file, how do i patch the tarball with the text? ive no idea!!
[07:49] <NoobSauce> Jordan_U: I don't think you can turn it off. You just have to turn the sensitivity of the mouse activating to a lower value (I forget what the setting is)
[07:49] <jmak642> numus: i have been looking at those and i tried to download what it indicated but it says it cant get many of the packages it needs.
[07:49] <Phrozen_One> neozen, you showed me something about memory management, thanks alot lol
[07:49] <Flannel> !compile | furenku
[07:49] <ubotu> furenku: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:49] <neozen> Phrozen_One: no problem
[07:49] <Flannel> !synaptics | Jordan_U
[07:49] <ubotu> Jordan_U: For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[07:49] <Nutubuntu> !pl
[07:49] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[07:50] <Phrozen_One> how come edubuntu doesnt have its own channel
[07:50] <neozen> Phrozen_One: I used to have the same concern ages ago
[07:50] <Jordan_U> Flannel, Thanks
[07:50] <neozen> Phrozen_One: no issues yet perhaps... or not enough users to keep it open all the time
[07:50] <Frogzoo> Jordan_U: To disable the synaptics touchpad while typing, see: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/09/20/disable-touchpad-temporarily-when-typing/
[07:50] <bluebanana> Phrozen_One, thanks for telling me about gftp for accessing my website  via ftp.
[07:50] <neozen> Phrozen_One: or even more possible... you just haven't found the right name yet
[07:50] <Phrozen_One> neozen, so whats the name then?
[07:50] <numus> Jmak642 in terminal type sudo apt-get install mplayer
[07:51] <neozen> Phrozen_One: #edubuntu
[07:51] <puff> Bah, humbug.  I just used the gnome applet:  System/Admin/Network, and enabled the network, ping now works, etc.
[07:51] <Vai_Ro> how do i check my window ID?
[07:51] <neozen> Phrozen_One: 30 users... that's probably it
[07:51] <Phrozen_One> neozen, your a crafty fox, given I can't speeel ryht
[07:51] <NoobSauce> wow... you learn something new everyday... didn't know synaptics could do that :P Jordan_U++
[07:51] <numus> damn avant wont let me add any launchers stupid program is frozen
[07:52] <neozen> puff: lol
[07:52] <puff> neozen: I'd really like to know wtf is going on, I have had bad experiences with GUI wireless tools in the past, so I don't like having to rely on them.
[07:52] <neozen> puff: I've had great experience with network-manager-gnome
[07:53] <neozen> puff: kicks the hell out of everything else imho on ubuntu/xubuntu
[07:53] <alecwh> How do you install TTF fonts onto Ubuntu Linux for use on programs like GIMP?
[07:53] <numus> what up with security.ubuntu.com i have been having an apt-get update problem with taht server
[07:53] <mcgvac> i havent been able to find any Avant window manager amd64 debs for fiesty does anybody know a dl location
[07:53] <jmak642> numus: it hung up, prolly downloading libpulse0 "98% [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (82.211.81.138)]  "
[07:53] <neozen> ...though.. this is an intel pro wireless 3945 card here.... I might be biased
[07:53] <neozen> numus: I can't get one here either
[07:53] <NoobSauce> numus: I'm trying to do updates and security has just gone down for me... I can no longer connect (although I could a minute ago)
[07:53] <numus> jmak the servers seem to be having problems righ tnow
[07:54] <jmak642> numus: which is the one i couldnt get earlier
[07:54] <neozen> numus: probably just getting snowed
[07:54] <numus> neozen you ever use avant?
[07:54] <neozen> numus: lots of people upgrading to some new tribe I suppose
[07:54] <numus> neozen ahh.. i got a compiz-fusion upgrade a few minutes ago
[07:55] <alecwh> What did the update entail, numus?
[07:55] <numus> trying to figure out why avant wont let me edit launchers
[07:55] <b0ne> alecwh: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[07:55] <Nutubuntu> g'night all
[07:55] <jmak642> numus: ok i guess i'll try to get it tomorrow
[07:55] <alecwh> Thank you b0ne.
[07:55] <numus> alecwh i really have no idea lol.. all i know is if i didn't do it it would annoy me in teh taskbar
[07:55] <LuCiFeR|> can't get to any .us based ubuntu site
[07:55] <bobgill> How does one download videos from Youtube / What player is used to watch them ???
[07:55] <neozen> alecwh: there you go..
[07:55] <numus> jmak642 that one i sent you to get is a good media player.. also get vlc video if you can.. taht is a good one too
[07:55] <Sam916> is anyone else having trouble accessing ubuntu.com?
[07:56] <neozen> bobgill: lots of firefox addons for that
[07:56] <jmak642> numus: yah i already have vlc, it seems pretty good
[07:56] <neozen> I'm sure
[07:56] <qnyc> Sam916, yes
[07:56] <alecwh> Sam 916, yes.
[07:56] <embers> Forums down?
[07:56] <NoobSauce> Sam916: ubuntu.com is hosed for me
[07:56] <Sam916> cool, it's not just me
[07:56] <Alives> security.ubuntu.com is down... is there a mirror?
[07:56] <Sam916> even launchpad is down
[07:56] <neozen> wow...
[07:56] <alecwh> :(
[07:56] <alecwh> Hope they fix it soon.
[07:56] <NoobSauce> Alives: I wouldn't trust a mirror for security updates...
[07:56] <numus> hmm... No one in here uses avant navigator
[07:57] <neozen> wow... even ubuntu.com
[07:57] <alecwh> numus, I do.
[07:57] <Sam916> even Canonical
[07:57] <Alives> what ubuntu.com is down?
[07:57] <neozen> that's kind of creepy
[07:57] <Alives> ugh
[07:57] <alecwh> But I don't know how to use it...
[07:57] <Alives> day after i switch
[07:57] <alecwh> It won't allow .desktop icons.
[07:57] <Alives> this is bs
[07:57] <numus> alecwh have you ever had it were you can't edit the launchers?
[07:57] <neozen> Alives: aye... looks that way
[07:57] <Sam916> every Ubuntu-related site is dead
[07:57] <neozen> Alives: fear not... it will be up soon
[07:57] <Assassin`> what was the other program to use instead of wine for games?
[07:57] <NoobSauce> Alives: If it's any consollation, I've never seen ubuntu anything go down
[07:57] <numus> security back up
[07:57] <Alives> oh ok cool
[07:57] <bobgill> Ok I have downloaded the video but what player can be used to watch .flv ???
[07:57] <alecwh> yes numus... don't know why though.
[07:57] <neozen> Alives: perhaps a DDOS
[07:57] <numus> well.. was
[07:57] <NoobSauce> Assassin`: cedega
[07:57] <Alives> yeah me either
[07:57] <b0ne> filext.com
[07:57] <b0ne> :P
[07:57] <neozen> time to wake up an admin
[07:58] <numus> alexcwh how did you fix it.. also how do i take the stupid open tasks off
[07:58] <alecwh> Urg. Why is ubuntu.com down...
[07:58] <Assassin`> thanks NoobSauce
[07:58] <Megaqwerty> bobgill: Totem-xine
[07:58] <alecwh> no idea, i never fixed it. And I don't have a lot of "stupid open tasks"...
[07:58] <numus> alecwh must be update night.. since i have gotten a couple major updates
[07:58] <Mr_Sonoma> i am trying to share a internet connection with a laptop  i have 2 wireless usb sticks the dsl modum is connected to a NIC on the desktop computer i would like to be able to put one usb wireless network stick on this desktop and the other on the laptop and share the connection. suggestions on how to achieve this or where to look?
[07:58] <bobgill> Megaqwerty: thanks
[07:58] <Megaqwerty> bobgill: you're welcome
[07:58] <bobgill> Is there any way to convert .flv to .mpg or .avi or something ??
[07:58] <numus> alecwh it doesn't show you every open program in avant?
[07:58] <Megaqwerty> bobgill: you need to use a program called ffmpeg
[07:58] <alecwh> What did the major update entail? :P
[07:58] <neozen> well... I poked the admins
[07:59] <numus> alecwh i dont read them i just click them :)
[07:59] <alecwh> Numus, it does, but I want it that way...
[07:59] <numus> night everyone
[07:59] <b0ne> bobgill: you're probably better off looking on doom9.org or videohelp.com, both have conversion tutorials, and format information
[07:59] <neozen> that must be some huge network cable someone just tripped over
[07:59] <jmak642> neozen: thanks, maybe that package i need will get working when they fix it
[07:59] <Megaqwerty> bobgill: then you can use it like: ffmpeg -i $file -ab 56 -ar 22050 -b 500 -s 800x600 $output.avi
[07:59] <neozen> ....how does one trip over a t3?
[08:00] <neozen> ....kind of entails climbing over it right?
[08:00] <neozen> ...that's like tripping over a car
[08:00] <bobgill> ok thanks i am checking them out
[08:00] <Megaqwerty> bobgill: where $file is the filename, and $output is what you want to output the file as.
[08:00] <bob301> err...I am sure this has been asked a hundred times, but is Ubuntu.com down?
[08:00] <qnyc> bob301, yes
[08:00] <b0ne> bob301: yea
[08:01] <NoobSauce> bob301: yes, for sure. slashdot.org is not though, so it's not the apocalypse yet
[08:01] <Megaqwerty> NoobSauce: lol
[08:01] <jmak642> yeah, they are working on it i guess
[08:01] <Sp4rKy> rockets: don't use medibuntu.sos-sts.com anymore please
[08:01] <jmak642> someone let them know
[08:01] <Sp4rKy> rockets: replace it by medibuntu.org
[08:02] <alecwh> are the ubuntu forums down too?
[08:02] <rockets> ok
[08:02] <Sp4rKy> thx
[08:02] <bobgill> Megaqwerty: wow amazing it worked perfect
[08:02] <b0ne> i can't get to the forums either
[08:02] <Megaqwerty> bobgill: of course it did! :)
[08:02] <bobgill> Megaqwerty: how can I rip audio from a video to make a .mp3 or .wav ??
[08:02] <bobgill> hehe :)
[08:02] <alecwh> I'm looking at some video editing apps for Linux, and I'm curious, what does "non-linear" mean?
[08:02] <b0ne> google it alec :)
[08:03] <poolie> the ubuntu datacentre is having network problems; our sysadmins are working on it
[08:03] <Billy> !defunct
[08:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about defunct - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:03] <Megaqwerty> bobgill: I haven't tried that...but you could try just making the output extension .mp3 or .wav
[08:03] <qnyc> alecwh, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-linear_editing_system
[08:03] <alecwh> poolie, when can we expect it up?
[08:03] <b0ne> next year
[08:03] <Megaqwerty> bobgill: ffmpeg is pretty smart...it might be able to do it.
[08:03] <neozen> alecwh: if I knew that... I'd tell you
[08:03] <neozen> alecwh: I'd say by 8am
[08:04] <insomniac190> is there a good program in lnux that does the same thing as winrar when dealing with .r01 .r02 etc files?
[08:04] <bobgill> Megaqwerty: damn ffmpeg rules, again perfect
[08:04] <neozen> alecwh: they RARELY go down
[08:04] <Billy> I have a ps -ef  that reads  <defunct>  and I can not kill it using kill pid or pkill defunct,  How can I kill this?
[08:04] <iambob> ok everytime someone tells me a what my graphics card is and i reconfig it my cpu messes up
[08:04] <Megaqwerty> bobgill: what can I say? It's open-source software. That's kinda how it works ;)
[08:04] <neozen> alecwh: usually only get really slow the day of a major release
[08:04] <jikanter> Billy: kill -9
[08:04] <alecwh> Ok, thanks. qnyc, I found that seconds before you posted it. :D
[08:04] <bluebanana> is text editor a good source editor for html pages/website design?
[08:05] <alecwh> neozen, what's the major release?
[08:05] <bobgill> Megaqwerty: this commercial jingle is finally gonna be my ringtone lol, thanks ;)
[08:05] <Billy> jikanter thank you
[08:05] <neozen> alecwh: don't think there is one
[08:05] <alecwh> bluebanana, yes. If you do it a lot, I'd suggest another app like gPHPedit
[08:05] <jikanter> Billy: your welcome
[08:05] <Megaqwerty> bobgill: happy to oblige!
[08:05] <Sakkath> hey . . . why is the site down?
[08:05] <qnyc> !info p7zip-full | insomniac190
[08:05] <bluebanana> alecwh, i see
[08:05] <ubotu> insomniac190: p7zip-full: 7-Zip is a file archiver with high compression ratio. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.43~dfsg.1-1 (feisty), package size 1360 kB, installed size 3576 kB
[08:05] <alecwh> Ok neozen.
[08:05] <sixtyeight> any idea when the new kernel will hit the repos?
[08:05] <neozen> alecwh: poolie just said their datacenter is having network issues
[08:06] <alecwh> bluebanana, if you can't stand WYSIWYG editors (I can't) gphpedit is perfect for me. :D
[08:06] <embers> Anyone else notice the download status bar being lost with 7.04?
[08:06] <Megaqwerty> sixtyeight: I would imagine you would have to wait for Gutsy...
[08:06] <poolie> alecwh, sorry, all i know is that they're working as fast as they can
[08:06] <Megaqwerty> sixtyeight: as for how long till it hits Gutsy's repos...I have no idea.
[08:06] <sixtyeight> i see
[08:06] <poolie> the problem  seems to be with our network provider
[08:06] <b0ne> poolie, can you set topics?
[08:06] <alecwh> !video editing
[08:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about video editing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:06] <poolie> i'm not sure
[08:06] <neozen> poolie: sounds like you guys have some upcoming fun
[08:07] <neozen> poolie: best of luck
[08:07] <bluebanana> alecwh, i'm a newbie, so I can stand wysiwyg editors. 8-)
[08:07] <poolie> a backhoe, maybe :)
[08:07] <poolie> hm i guess none of those links are going to work
[08:07] <neozen> yeah... time to kill off the bot
[08:07] <insomniac190> qnyc: thank you i will check it out in the morning.
[08:07] <Quickxotic> Is there a mirror for security.ubuntu.com?
[08:07] <Sakkath> What is wrong witht he site
[08:07] <alecwh> bluebanana, I still recommend gphpedit. It's good to learn without a wysiwyg. However, bluefish is a good alternative.
[08:08] <poolie> mneptok, ping?
[08:08] <poolie> no, i can't set the topic
[08:08] <bluebanana> alecwh, I agree. Bluebanana using bluefish... what a perfect couple!
[08:08] <ste-foy> ping pong
[08:08] <bluebanana> bluefish is wysiwyg, yes?
[08:08] <neozen> well.. its 1am... here in chicago... which means servers will start updating... and you guys.... will be sad because admins will be calling
[08:08] <Madpilot> bluebanana, no
[08:08] <alecwh> bluebanana, :P
[08:08] <b0ne> jedit is a pretty nice editor too
[08:08] <alecwh> I'm pretty sure, yes.
[08:09] <bluebanana> what should a beginner use?
[08:09] <alecwh> b0ne, how so?
[08:09] <Megaqwerty> bluebanana: another good wysiwyg editor is Kompozer
[08:09] <alecwh> and bluebanana, try Nvu
[08:09] <bluebanana> what's the best?
[08:09] <neozen> !best
[08:09] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[08:09] <alecwh> sudo apt-get install nvu
[08:09] <bluebanana> alecwh, ok. ill try nvu
[08:09] <ste-foy> xchat
[08:09] <b0ne> it works on windows and linux with decent syntax highligting and regex support
[08:09] <Megaqwerty> bluebanana: Kompozer is an updated version of nvu
[08:09] <crackerbox> is ubuntuforums.org down for anyone else?
[08:09] <poolie> Madpilot, can you change the topic to show that there are network  problems please - most .ubuntu.com and launchpad.net machines can't be reached
[08:09] <b0ne> crackerbox: yes
[08:09] <neozen> crackerbox: yes it is
[08:09] <poolie> and that one :)
[08:09] <neozen> crackerbox: they're working on it
[08:09] <alecwh> What's it built for, b0ne?
[08:09] <bluebanana> neozen, ok. let me rephrase the question...  what's not the furthest from the worst? 8-)
[08:09] <Megaqwerty> bluebanana: I'd suggest it over Nvu untill nvu gets a new version cranked out.
[08:10] <Glave-work> I have 2 devices in /dev/mapper that are causing my lvm to go nuts: how can I remove them? lvm2|lvm-raid|lvm0 & Error|lvm2|lvm-raid|pv1
[08:10] <crackerbox> hahaha
[08:10] <neozen> !worst
[08:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about worst - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:10] <alecwh> CSS/XHTML support?
[08:10] <b0ne> built for? it's a generic programmers text editor
[08:10] <bluebanana> Megaqwerty, thanks for telling me of kompozer. If kompozer is the updated version of nvu, i see no reason to use nvu. Do you folks see any reason?
[08:10] <Madpilot> bluebanana, bluefish is an excellent editor, if you're not afraid of actual code. Try Screem too, it's got some nice features.
[08:10] <neozen> dankee madpilot... the newbies will be questioning
[08:10] <crackerbox> anyone using curlFTPfs with feisty?
[08:10] <crackerbox> it sucks hard
[08:10] <bluebanana> neozen, is "dankee" english? what does dankee mean?
[08:11] <tonyyarusso> bluebanana: only that nvu is in the repos for edgy and prior.  If you're running feisty, then no reason at all.
[08:11] <|_ocke>  yesh, real uptime calculators everywhere suffer
[08:11] <alecwh> I don't like Screem's GUI. :P
[08:11] <bluebanana> tonyyarusso, i'm using feisty
[08:11] <poolie> Glave-work, what do you mean "remove them"?
[08:11] <b0ne> danke is dutch for thank you, "americanized" into dankee i think
[08:11] <alecwh> b0ne, sorry, more specifically, does it have syntax highlighting for PHP/CSS/XHTML/SQL?
[08:11] <poolie> do you want to remove the physical devices or the vgs?
[08:11] <b0ne> alecwh: it should
[08:11] <Megaqwerty> bluebanana: I think dankee is dutch for "thank you"
[08:11] <bluebanana> what do guys think of amaya (in repo)?
[08:12] <poolie> Glave-work, you can try vgchange bad_vg --available n
[08:12] <Megaqwerty> bluebanana: I may have gotten the language of origin wrong though...
[08:12] <neozen> Megaqwerty: it might very well be
[08:12] <alecwh> meh, I'm happy with gphpedit. It's got a few bugs, but I really like it.
[08:12] <Megaqwerty> Ah, b0ne beat me to is
[08:12] <Glave-work> poolie: I have tried removing a group that had a hard drive die, but I cannot seem to completely get rid of it. lvdisplay and pvdisplay return nothing, but do generate an input/output error referencing those files
[08:12] <Megaqwerty> *it
[08:12] <alecwh> bluebanana, wouldn't recommend it.
[08:12] <poolie> you want to totally get rid of the vg?
[08:12] <bluebanana> someone recommended i use gphpedit. Is that for html files, or only for PHP files?
[08:12] <Ashton_K> Okay, maybe someone can explain this. I recently switched to Ubuntu from Gentoo (got tired of managing EVERYTHING), and my ethernet cable worked fine. After recently replacing said cable, it will NOT hold a connection. It'll connect at first, but it seems to give out after a while.
[08:13] <poolie> does vgs show it?
[08:13] <alecwh> I don't think a newer web developer would like that.
[08:13] <bluebanana> alecwh, ok. i won't use it
[08:13] <geekkit> whoa ... what's up with ubuntuforums and the update manager web sites? they're all down :-(
[08:13] <Ashton_K> See the topic.
[08:13] <insomniac190> is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ down atm?
[08:13] <neozen> geekkit: see topic
[08:13] <Megaqwerty> yes
[08:13] <alecwh> geekkit, read the title.
[08:13] <alecwh> :P
[08:13] <neozen> insomniac190: yes
[08:13] <insomniac190> haha ohhh
[08:13] <iambob> !graphics card
[08:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about graphics card - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:13] <Glave-work> poolie: the system no longer thinks it has a vg at all, but generates errors on any scans for it
[08:13] <mhz`> /topic #
[08:13] <geekkit> neozen, alecwh: thanks sorry
[08:13] <iambob> !botsnack
[08:13] <neozen> geekkit: no worries
[08:13] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[08:13] <neozen> LOL
[08:13] <neozen> they changed it!
[08:14] <deedee> hi guys
[08:14] <neozen> deedee: hoallo
[08:14] <Glave-work> poolie: like this from the command you suggested: /dev/mapper/lvm2|lvm-raid|lvm0: read failed after 0 of 4096 at 2400555302912: Input/output error
[08:14] <Glave-work> Volume group "lvm-raid" not found
[08:14] <Megaqwerty> lol
[08:14] <poolie> what's the error? what commands give it
[08:14] <alecwh> I'm looking at Cinelerra, is this a good video editing app?
[08:14] <geekkit> neozen: kinda scared me. i have book marks to all kinds of forum posts for how to do all kinds of things so knowing that they're always there is a comfort. but i suppose even now and again google goes down too eh?
[08:14] <deedee> oh yea..raid in linux..is interesting
[08:14] <koshari> i havnt heard of enyone actually getting cinnerella to work!
[08:14] <iambob> what is my graphics card i typed in lspci but what do i do know
[08:14] <bluebanana> bluebanana, !html
[08:15] <alecwh> geekkit, never had google go down...
[08:15] <Ashton_K> Uhh, look up your pc....
[08:15] <Glave-work> poolie: vgs returns nothing but vgs
[08:15] <neozen> geekkit: no worries.... they think its a network problem not a server problem
[08:15] <Ashton_K> Find the stats on it.
[08:15] <Megaqwerty> geekkit: on a related note, you can put cache:website.com into google...it should give you it's version of the page
[08:15] <Glave-work> poolie: err, returns nothing but /dev/mapper/Error|lvm2|lvm-raid|pv1: read failed after 0 of 4096 at 0: Input/output error
[08:15] <geekkit> alecwh: i have. or at least the google mail end of things
[08:15] <poolie> Glave-work, wow, i'd probably try having a look through /etc/lvm to see if there's any reference to it still there
[08:15] <poolie> have you physically removed the disks?
[08:15] <neozen> Megaqwerty: good thinking
[08:15] <biotrox> need software to track down spyware
[08:15] <biotrox> anybody..?
[08:15] <insomniac190> is there issues with ubuntu feisty fawn and the Fn button on laptops?
[08:15] <geekkit> megaqwerty: thanks for that tip, that's a good one :-)
[08:16] <b0ne> define "track down"
[08:16] <neozen> geekkit: and there's always the way back machine @ web.archive.org
[08:16] <Megaqwerty> geekkit: you're welcome
[08:16] <biotrox> to make vanish
[08:16] <bruenig> insomniac190, there is issues with linux and the Fn buttons on laptops
[08:16] <neozen> insomniac190: what kind of issues?
[08:16] <b0ne> on windows?
[08:16] <bluebanana> i can't find Kompozer in add/remove
[08:16] <crackerbox> biotrox: hijackthis, systernals processxp?
[08:16] <biotrox> ubuntu ofcourse
[08:16] <bluebanana> !html
[08:16] <ubotu> html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem, and Nvu. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com
[08:16] <geekkit> neozen: thanks for that link :-) this is a new one to me :-)
[08:16] <crackerbox> ew ... spyware in ubuntu??
[08:16] <bruenig> bluebanana, sudo apt-get install kompozer
[08:16] <bruenig> !info kompozer
[08:16] <Ashton_K> Anyone here used Metisse, is it worth the trouble?
[08:16] <ubotu> Package kompozer does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:16] <bluebanana> bruenig, why isn't it in add/remove?
[08:16] <biotrox> ya spyware in ubuntu
[08:16] <neozen> geekkit: lol... I love the way back machine
[08:17] <bruenig> hmm, what is it called
[08:17] <biotrox> i know it will not effect ubuntu
[08:17] <alecwh> !ccc
[08:17] <bruenig> !find kompozer
[08:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ccc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:17] <crackerbox> how in the world did that happen??
[08:17] <insomniac190> neozen, when I try to use anyof the funtions, none work.  Brighten and dim screen for example.
[08:17] <alecwh> !css
[08:17] <tonyyarusso> !nvu
[08:17] <bruenig> bluebanana, add/remove is garbage
[08:17] <ubotu> Package/file kompozer does not exist in feisty
[08:17] <biotrox> but my environment has heterogen os
[08:17] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[08:17] <ubotu> nvu is a WYSIWYG and code dual-function HTML editor for easily creating web pages.  The original developer is working on a full rewrite; meanwhile, another is doing bugfixes.  It is not in the Ubuntu repos for Feisty Fawn, but add your name to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WaitingForNvuFeisty to be notified when packages are available.  See also !html.
[08:17] <neozen> geekkit: recovered my web page when my provider killed my account
[08:17] <geekkit> neozen: i think im going to love it too :-)
[08:17] <bluebanana> someone in this room told me about kompozer
[08:17] <bluebanana> bruenig, i like using add/remove
[08:17] <bluebanana> I guess that means I like garbage. 8-)
[08:17] <Jordan_U> bruenig, How so ?
[08:17] <crackerbox> dont know exactly what that is
[08:17] <biotrox> so anybody got a solution for removing spyware in ubuntu
[08:17] <biotrox> ....?
[08:17] <b0ne> i don't think spyware really exists on ubuntu
[08:18] <alecwh> !css
[08:18] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[08:18] <bruenig> Jordan_U, limited number of apps, slow waste of time
[08:18] <Megaqwerty> bluebanana: it's in either the multiverse or universe repositories
[08:18] <Jordan_U> biotrox, How did you install spyware in Ubuntu?
[08:18] <neozen> geekkit: they don't have everything though... (usually only text/html files) and they only do a grab every once in a while
[08:18] <geekkit> neozen: wow, hah, it has my old site from like 2004!! haha that's grand
[08:18] <Megaqwerty> bluebanana: can't remember which
[08:18] <bruenig> Megaqwerty, ubuto says it is nowhere
[08:18] <neozen> geekkit: yep
[08:18] <qnyc> biotrox, how can you hide spyware in open source software?
[08:18] <biotrox> i don't know
[08:18] <bluebanana> Megaqwerty, i think i have multi and uni turned on in add/remove (sources.list)
[08:18] <Megaqwerty> bruenig: it is in ther
[08:18] <Megaqwerty> I think
[08:18] <neozen> bionoid: answer is ... you can't
[08:18] <bruenig> !find kompozer | Megaqwerty
[08:18] <cotyrothery> How can i tell what type of graphics card my freind has
[08:18] <b0ne> biotrox: what makes you think you have spyware?
[08:18] <biotrox> i'm affraid my computer has spyware
[08:18] <ubotu> megaqwerty: Package/file kompozer does not exist in feisty
[08:18] <Jordan_U> bruenig, It is nice for new users though, I think the same thing of synaptic minus the limited number of apps
[08:18] <qnyc> biotrox, what's the problem?
[08:18] <Glave-work> poolie: nothing in lvm except the conf file, which doesn't reference it. I can stop lvm, delete everything in /dev/mapper, and then start it, and the 'errored devices' still get recreated
[08:18] <crackerbox> it must have been the proprietary ATI drivers...
[08:18] <LuCiFeR|> are there any mirrors of security.ubuntu.com that aren't in the mnet datacenter?
[08:18] <Megaqwerty> ah, so it doesn't.
[08:18] <biotrox> and i want to know how to detect the spyware in ubuntu
[08:19] <crackerbox> bundled with ad-ware
[08:19] <GoreNuru> hi! Help me someone please. I have no sound problem in ubuntu 7.04 (
[08:19] <neozen> biotrox: whats going on that you think you have spyware?
[08:19] <bruenig> Jordan_U, it is synaptic in python with less apps (synaptic too is a waste but at least you know it has all the apps and isn't slow)
[08:19] <qnyc> biotrox, there are no spyware or viruses in linux
[08:19] <bluebanana> is it worth learning html if there are WYSIWYG? We don't need to learn code when we are using office apps. How come we do when we make websites?
[08:19] <geekkit> biotrox: i dont think you have spyware on your computer
[08:19] <crackerbox> biotrox... basically list processes
[08:19] <Megaqwerty> bluebanana: http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:8cZXij7S__MJ:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kompozer+kompozer+ubuntu&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a
[08:19] <b0ne> qnyc: not really true, there are plenty of rootkits for linux
[08:19] <cotyrothery> I really need to figure my freinds gfx card out
[08:19] <alecwh> bluebanana, if that's your view, then you don't need to be convinced. ;)
[08:19] <Megaqwerty> bluebanana: actually...I think there was an easier way
[08:20] <bluebanana> alecwh, i'm open to reasoning. 8-)
[08:20] <b0ne> biotrox: if you're that concerned about it, download one of the linux based anti-viruses
[08:20] <Megaqwerty> bluebanana: http://www.getdeb.net/app.php?name=Kompozer
[08:20] <Jordan_U> bruenig, If you don't know what you want it is much easier to find interesting apps in Add/Remove than synaptic. Add/Remove is what got my friend hooked on Linux
[08:20] <crackerbox> i think biotrox enabled root login in GDM
[08:20] <bluebanana> Megaqwerty, so you're saying kompozer is not in repo, yes?
[08:20] <neozen> qnyc: indeed.... and there was a virus for vi a long time back
[08:20] <jmak642> wow that must be a pretty serious problem with those web servers
[08:20] <crackerbox> and went to pron sites
[08:20] <bruenig> Jordan_U, apt-cache search
[08:20] <Megaqwerty> bluebanana: it would appear so.
[08:20] <astro76> bluebanana, you might want to just try bluefish
[08:20] <biotrox> i already use bitdefender in my ubuntu
[08:20] <alecwh> bluebanana, I'm going to be honest... you really don't need to know html/css unless you're set on dedicating time to it...
[08:20] <Jordan_U> bruenig, Again, if you don't know what you are looking for
[08:21] <biotrox> is it enough..?
[08:21] <alecwh> I'd suggest w3schools.com if you really want to.
[08:21] <b0ne> biotrox: yes
[08:21] <cotyrothery> Jordan_U: Hey we really can not figure out the gfx card
[08:21] <bruenig> Jordan_U, what do you mean, if I want flash, I do "apt-cache search flash"
[08:21] <neozen> biotrox: linux is secure mon... especially if you don't allow remote users
[08:21] <biotrox> oo no need to worry about other things..?
[08:21] <geekkit> bluebanana: we learn XHTML, CSS, Javascript because no WYSIWYG tool is capable of correctly adhering to all of the rules of that language and how it all renders
[08:21] <bruenig> Jordan_U, if I want a media player I do "apt-cache show media"
[08:21] <astro76> biotrox, what is the problem?
[08:21] <bluebanana> yeah, I'm just developing a website for our small church. i don't see webmastering in my future as a career.
[08:21] <bruenig> search*
[08:21] <b0ne> paranoia is biotrox's problem :/
[08:21] <crackerbox> seems like it
[08:22] <alecwh> geekkit, Microsoft Expression almost has it right.
[08:22] <Megaqwerty> bluebanana: Kompozer is the best wysiwyg I have used. that getdeb link I gave you will give you a file you can download, and double-click to install. easy.
[08:22] <Jordan_U> bruenig, If you are new to Linux and want to find interesting applications that it has what do you search for?
[08:22] <alecwh> But I mostly agree.
[08:22] <bruenig> Jordan_U, like what
[08:22] <neozen> bionoid: keep the beast up to date (do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade) every once in a while... and you'll be just fine
[08:22] <geekkit> alecwh: do they comply with XHTML yet? and CSS 2? and javascript?
[08:22] <cotyrothery> I need to know my gfx card
[08:22] <cotyrothery> actually my freinds gfx card
[08:22] <geekkit> alecwh: last time i checked they were far from compliance
[08:22] <neozen> Jordan_U: I've found linuxappfinder.com to be pretty good
[08:23] <alecwh> Yes, I've used it. (x)HTML is awesomely rendered, even more so than their browsers....
[08:23] <Jordan_U> bruenig, Like my friend went through the entire list of apps in Add/Remove one day and installed the things that he found interesting
[08:23] <alecwh> CSS is also very supported.
[08:23] <neozen> Jordan_U: they've certainly got a bias towards certain apps... but the suggestions they give aren't bad for new users
[08:23] <alecwh> CSS2.
[08:23] <alecwh> I don't think CSS2.1 was implimented...
[08:23] <geekkit> alecwh: exactly ... in their browsers
[08:23] <Megaqwerty> neozen: cool link.
[08:23] <cotyrothery> I need somone to please help me out in figuring out my gfx card
[08:23] <neozen> cotyrothery: is he running linux?
[08:23] <geekkit> alecwh: so not compliant with the rest of the world so basically if you want non-M$ browsers you have to tweak. ergo you need to dip into the code
[08:23] <crackerbox> coty... what brand?
[08:24] <cotyrothery> yes
[08:24] <biotrox> another issue
[08:24] <cotyrothery> neozen: yes he is
[08:24] <crackerbox> and what model?
[08:24] <biotrox> i can't make my resolution to be stable
[08:24] <geekkit> alecwh: sure it was
[08:24] <alecwh> Meh. It's just... better to know HTML/CSS. The web is the future, and if you wanna be apart of it, you gotta follow the rules.
[08:24] <biotrox> sometimes 1024 x 768
[08:24] <crackerbox> im out of here
[08:24] <biotrox> somtimes 1280 x 1-24
[08:24] <biotrox> how to fix this
[08:24] <b0ne> biotrox: do you have integrated video on your motherboard or a seperate video card?
[08:24] <Newbuntu2> Hello all. I'm trying to install the nvidia drivers, but the restricted drivers manager says my hardware doesn't need restricted drivers... help!
[08:24] <neozen> ........strange
[08:24] <biotrox> seperated
[08:24] <neozen> biotrox: what kind of card?
[08:25] <biotrox> riva tnt2
[08:25] <biotrox> old card
[08:25] <alecwh> geekkit, no, they released it before it became a recommendation.
[08:25] <neozen> anyone got one of those in here?
[08:25] <alecwh> ...I think.
[08:25] <crackerbox> someone fix LibCurl please
[08:25] <neozen> crackerbox: lol.....
[08:25] <geekkit> alecwh: oh i c what you mean. ok.
[08:25] <Jordan_U> Newbuntu2, Try sudo dpkg-reconfigure restricted-manager
[08:25] <crackerbox> for the love of god
[08:25] <geekkit> alecwh: yeah, it kind of got ahead of itself ;-)
[08:25] <alecwh> geekkit, join #cssdis
[08:25] <neozen> crackerbox: um... what's wrong w/ it?
[08:26] <biotrox> anybody....?
[08:26] <neozen> crackerbox: is it broken?
[08:26] <bruenig> Jordan_U, I guess that seems weird to me, I think to myself, I need x, so then I look for something that provides it. If you need a list of software to mess with, seems like you can find one online
[08:26] <crackerbox> yes
[08:26] <crackerbox> big time
[08:26] <neozen> bionoid: when the forums come back up
[08:26] <crackerbox> devs know about it
[08:26] <crackerbox> last working one was in edgy
[08:26] <koshari> nv driver should cover rivr tnt cards for 2d,
[08:26] <crackerbox> gusty's will work
[08:26] <biotrox> hello i am expecting answers
[08:26] <neozen> biotrox: when the forums come back up... which will be real soon now.... search for the model there
[08:26] <crackerbox> but feisty is just farked
[08:26] <neozen> biotrox: its 1:30am here in chicago mon
[08:26] <koshari> i wouldnt expect high resolution as its only a 4meg card
[08:27] <neozen> biotrox: you should be patient
[08:27] <crackerbox> the issues occurs when using curlftpfs
[08:27] <b0ne> tnt's have 16 to 32mb
[08:27] <biotrox> so what must i search in the forums..?
[08:27] <crackerbox> that program allows you to mount a ftp server as a local folder
[08:27] <crackerbox> very very cool
[08:27] <neozen> biotrox: forums are down right now
[08:27] <crackerbox> exactly what my project needs
[08:27] <cotyrothery> How can i figure out what my freinds gfx card is PLEASE
[08:27] <Newbuntu2> jordan_u: didn't do anything...
[08:28] <biotrox> neozen.. what forums..? ubuntu forums..?
[08:28] <crackerbox> but in feisty due to a known bug in the version of libcurl... it is very unstable
[08:28] <bluebanana> Megaqwerty, ok. i'm installing kompozer now. thanks.
[08:28] <EADG_> cotyrothery: in a term type lspci
[08:28] <neozen> biotrox: aye.. ubuntuforums.org
[08:28] <koshari> tnt with 32? i recal banshees had 16, i got a riva here with 4
[08:28] <b0ne> biotrox: if you search google for tnt resolution ubuntu
[08:28] <cotyrothery> EADG_: we have done that but we dont understand it
[08:28] <b0ne> it will take you to a ubuntuforums.org link complaining of 1024x768 resolution max
[08:28] <Megaqwerty> bluebanana: You're welcome, and happy Web Designing!
[08:28] <biotrox> ooo oke
[08:28] <crackerbox> i wrote a pretty detailed white up on the forum about it... here let me get you a link...
[08:28] <Jordan_U> Newbuntu2, Ok, it helped someone else with your same problem, do you have only one GFX card ?
[08:28] <neozen> cotyrothery: get to a terminal
[08:28] <crackerbox> damn
[08:28] <biotrox> thanks neozon
[08:28] <neozen> cotyrothery: type lspci
[08:28] <biotrox> ubuntuforums
[08:28] <cotyrothery> yea but what does it all mean
[08:28] <cotyrothery> we get lots of stuff poping up
[08:29] <neozen> cotyrothery: you have to read it
[08:29] <biotrox> searc for tnt resolution ubuntu
[08:29] <b0ne> yep
[08:29] <cotyrothery> neozen: we have
[08:29] <Newbuntu2> jordan_u, yes; windows calls it "quadro NVS 110M"
[08:29] <cotyrothery> neozen: we dont understand it
[08:29] <neozen> cotyrothery: one of the lines in there will be a graphics card
[08:29] <cotyrothery> neozen: can we pastebin it
[08:29] <neozen> cotyrothery: look for nvidia, ati, intel
[08:29] <b0ne> we?
[08:29] <EADG_> cotyrothery: will say something like VGA compatable...
[08:29] <neozen> cotyrothery: if pastebin is up.. yes you can
[08:30] <crackerbox> ahhhh
[08:30] <aditsu> can anybody access ubuntuforums? it seems to be down, is there a mirror?
[08:30] <crackerbox> no
[08:30] <crackerbox> its down
[08:30] <b0ne> aditsu: topic
[08:30] <crackerbox> killing my self
[08:30] <neozen> aditsu: no.. its down... no mirror... try the google cach for your particular page
[08:30] <crackerbox> cause its down
[08:30] <Jordan_U> Newbuntu2, You could install xorg-video-nvidia and sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[08:30] <neozen> *cache
[08:30] <Megaqwerty> aditsu: it's down, but if you put cache:ubuntuforums.org into google.com, it should come up
[08:30] <Newbuntu2> jordan_u: do I use apt-get to install that?
[08:31] <neozen> well... I've got screen set to alert me the second ubuntuforums starts responding to ping
[08:31] <neozen> now we play the waiting game
[08:31] <cotyrothery> EADG_: neozen: http://pastebin.com/m4c9c4948
[08:31] <Jordan_U> Newbuntu2, Yes, I think I have the package name wrong though
[08:31] <neozen> ...what a sad thing to happen
[08:31] <rsteele> ?
[08:31] <biotrox> oke
[08:31] <Jordan_U> Newbuntu2, nvidia-glx is what you need I think
[08:31] <biotrox> another problem
[08:31] <biotrox> my auto-mounting cdrom  doesn't work
[08:32] <cotyrothery> EADG_: neozen: can you guys make any sense of it
[08:32] <biotrox> not ubuntu actually
[08:32] <ghostx> biotrox, r u using gnome ?
[08:32] <biotrox> but kubuntu
[08:32] <biotrox> using kde
[08:32] <EADG_> cotyrothery: your friends vid card is... Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 CGC
[08:32] <ShangWu_> neozen, do u know why ???
[08:32] <neozen> cotyrothery: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller]  (rev 03)
[08:32] <cotyrothery> EADG_: which is
[08:32] <biotrox> ghostx i'm using kde
[08:32] <neozen> ShangWu_: network problem apparently
[08:32] <biotrox> which is kubuntu
[08:33] <neozen> ShangWu_: all data is still intact...
[08:33] <neozen> ShangWu_: just not accessible atm
[08:33] <Jordan_U> bionoid, #kubuntu
[08:33] <neozen> ShangWu_: was the last I heard
[08:33] <biotrox> oke
[08:33] <biotrox> thanks
[08:33] <ShangWu_> neozen, um ....
[08:33] <neozen> biotrox: you're welcome
[08:33] <biotrox> hiks
[08:33] <neozen> biotrox: have patience
[08:33] <biotrox> i'm banned from kubuntu
[08:33] <cotyrothery> EADG_: neozen: what type of gfx card is that so we can configure it
[08:33] <EADG_> cotyrothery: A video chipset made by Intel.
[08:33] <astro76> cotyrothery, which is an Intel 82810E (Intel 810 family)
[08:33] <cotyrothery> what model like mine is i810
[08:33] <neozen> biotrox: remember... we're all here for free
[08:34] <neozen> cotyrothery: yeah... use the i810 driver
[08:34] <biotrox> neozen i've been banned from kubuntu
[08:34] <neozen> biotrox: well... what'd you do
[08:34] <b0ne> rofl
[08:34] <Billy> what is the camand to find out what kind of a file a file is?
[08:34] <cotyrothery> astro76: EADG_; neozen: now we need to get his computer to do 3d acceleration
[08:34] <b0ne> probably demanded attention
[08:34] <neozen> lol
[08:35] <biotrox> forgot
[08:35] <biotrox> already
[08:35] <klassicd> what's the command to watch changes to a file
[08:35] <drago> Billy: file
[08:35] <neozen> biotrox: its true.... you don't get much in linux by demanding it..... unless... you have money
[08:35] <neozen> biotrox: then your stuff gets written
[08:35] <Jordan_U> biotrox, You don't get banned permanently, it can't have been too long ago
[08:35] <neozen> bionoid: or .. you code it yourself
[08:35] <ShangWu_> Ubuntu is BACK !!!!
[08:35] <EADG_> klassicd: tail -f file iirc
[08:36] <biotrox> hiks :(
[08:36] <neozen> WHEE!!!!!!!!!
[08:36] <b0ne> has anyone attempted to create a raid 0 array with mdadm and received an error about one of the devices being busy?
[08:36] <klassicd> thank you EADG_
[08:36] <drago> Billy: mean file some_file_name.ext
[08:36] <Billy> drago thank you
[08:36] <insomniac190> can anyone recommend a good usb wireless optical mouse that will fully function in feisty?  possibly with workin side button?
[08:37] <Jordan_U> !hardware | insomniac190
[08:37] <ubotu> insomniac190: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[08:37] <_markt> what is this about? "E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_feisty-security_universe_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)"?
[08:37] <biotrox> please op in ubuntu
[08:37] <biotrox> don't banned me from kubuntu
[08:37] <biotrox> :(
[08:37] <LukeEkbla1> Hello
[08:37] <LukeEkbla1> I have a question.  Dose anyone know how to get that snow affect?
[08:38] <random1> Okay
[08:38] <random1> So
[08:38] <b0ne> man too much noise
[08:38] <ghostx> !as LukeEkbla1
[08:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about as lukeekbla1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:38] <astro76> _markt, what command produced that?
[08:38] <ghostx> !ask LukeEkbla1
[08:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask lukeekbla1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:38] <_markt> astro76: apt-get build-dep fluxbox
[08:38] <b0ne> wb
[08:38] <ghostx> damit
[08:38] <biotrox> |flux-box
[08:38] <astro76> _markt, probably because ubuntu.com is down currently
[08:38] <biotrox> !flux-box
[08:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flux-box - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:39] <random1> I got ubuntu to install finally.
[08:39] <random1> And it said oh it's done take out the cd.
[08:39] <LukeEkbla1> what?
[08:39] <random1> And it rebooted.
[08:39] <ghostx> LukeEkbla1, its in extras in beryl
[08:40] <random1> And then it said there was no operating system. =(
[08:40] <b0ne> did you tell it to use the whole disk?
[08:40] <random1> Yes.
[08:40] <Jordan_U> random1, Do you have more than one drive?
[08:40] <random1> No.
[08:40] <_markt> oh man, oh man, I can't wait to get out of gnome
[08:40] <neozen> random1: awwwwwwwwwwwwww
[08:41] <b0ne> i'd verify in your bios that your boot configuration is set correctly, like floppys first, cdroms second, then hard drives
[08:41] <LukeEkbla1> ghostx:    Extras?
[08:41] <neozen> _markt: lol.... perhaps you should have installed a different version of ubuntu
[08:41] <Jordan_U> random1, Possibly try re-installing GRUB ?
[08:41] <neozen> _markt: ie ... kubuntu or ubuntu... or even ubuntu-lite
[08:41] <ghostx> LukeEkbla1, yea in your beryl-settings
[08:41] <neozen> *xubuntu
[08:41] <_markt> I tried installing gentoo; I couldn't get the kernel to boot
[08:42] <LukeEkbla1> ghostx:   ok,  i looked and i dont have snow of extras
[08:42] <_markt> I'll probably try again in a week, but I really need this new laptop this weekend
[08:42] <neozen> _markt: lol..... well install one of the ubuntu's .. it will just work
[08:42] <ghostx> LukeEkbla1, you need to install it using ur package manager aka apt-get. umm beryl-extras or something
[08:42] <neozen> _markt: depending on the laptop you might need to tweak a few things
[08:43] <neozen> _markt: but it will WORK
[08:43] <_markt> it is working
[08:43] <neozen> _markt: what kind of laptop?
[08:43] <_markt> dell inspiron 1501
[08:43] <Billy> this file how can I open it the top of it reads in text editor like so.. it was supost to be a pdf?  From: "WEB.DE VoiceBox" <fax@web.de>
[08:43] <Billy> To: <g.stiehler@web.de>
[08:43] <Billy> Subject: Fax-Nachricht von Tel: unbekannt an Tel: 01212-5-13424894
[08:43] <Billy> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 13:36:02 +0200
[08:43] <Billy> Message-ID: <8856630.1184067362486.JavaMail.root@fmfax02.dlan.cinetic.de>
[08:43] <neozen> _markt: btw... welcome to the fold
[08:43] <Billy> MIME-Version: 1.0
[08:43] <Billy> Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
[08:43] <Billy> 	boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001D_01C7C323.BE116070"
[08:43] <Billy> X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11
[08:43] <b0ne> wow billy
[08:43] <Billy> Thread-Index: AcfC5n5DMIpm1GCnTQuNa9OHb1upjA==
[08:43] <Billy> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138
[08:43] <Billy> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
[08:43] <neozen> Billy: no pasting in there
[08:43] <Billy> ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C7C323.BE116070
[08:43] <Billy> Content-Type: text/plain;
[08:43] <Billy> 	charset="iso-8859-15"
[08:43] <Billy> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
[08:43] <Billy> ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C7C323.BE116070
[08:43] <EADG_> Billy: stop
[08:43] <Billy> Content-Type: application/pdf;
[08:43] <Billy> 	name="fax.pdf"
[08:43] <Billy> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
[08:44] <Billy> Content-Disposition: attachment;
[08:44] <b0ne> oh boy, we're gonna get base64
[08:44] <b0ne> lol
[08:44] <Billy> 	filename="fax.pdf"
[08:44] <astro76> !pastebin | Billy
[08:44] <ubotu> Billy: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:44] <neozen> Billy: oh hell.. its a pdf
[08:44] <Billy> O sorry did not know we were not allowed to do that...
[08:44] <neozen> Billy: right up there in the topic
[08:44] <ghostx> lol!!!
[08:44] <b0ne> pasting entire emails is never appropriate on irc
[08:44] <neozen> Billy: really a good idea to read those on freenode
[08:45] <ghostx> neozen, not*
[08:45] <neozen> Billy: and any place else.... failing to do so... might get you rolled
[08:45] <Billy> I thought it was a pdf but I could not open it with my pdf vewer..  "Where is the topic at"?
[08:45] <ste-foy> Bonne nuit tout le monde. Good night every one.
[08:45] <astro76> Billy, it will display when you join or type /topic
[08:45] <ghostx> Billy, use rafb.net/paste or something similar
[08:45] <_markt> hrm, anything that can be done about "package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)"?
[08:45] <EADG_> Billy:  /topic
[08:46] <Billy> awsome thanks
[08:46] <Billy> and sorry I hate looking like a boob.
[08:46] <alecwh> Ubuntu is back up. :D
[08:47] <_markt> well, I still get the universe file error, so that wasn't it
[08:48] <josh_marshall> Hey guys... anyone experiencing almost periodic gnome lags in the new feisty release?
[08:48] <josh_marshall> *newer*
[08:48] <bruenig> use xfce
[08:49] <bruenig> !info wifi-radar
[08:49] <ubotu> wifi-radar: graphical utility for managing Wi-Fi profiles. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.7-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 38 kB, installed size 232 kB
[08:49] <biotrox> can i install ubuntu in UFD..?
[08:49] <bruenig> wifi-radar is nice
[08:49] <josh_marshall> Eh, I use xfce for certain things, but I'm a big fan of Gnome... plus, I'm not totally sure it is Gnome.
[08:49] <bruenig> big fan of gnome, you don't see many of those
[08:49] <bruenig> you see gnome users, but few fans
[08:49] <kr00lplatinum> how do you uninstall a package?
[08:49] <astro76> _markt, you might try sudo apt-get update then try again
[08:50] <josh_marshall> I'm a huge fan of XFCE on resource challenged systems...
[08:50] <bruenig> kr00lplatinum, sudo apt-get remove package
[08:50] <bruenig> I use xfce plus beryl on a very resource endowed system, it is very nice
[08:50] <kr00lplatinum> bruenig: then what?
[08:50] <bruenig> kr00lplatinum, then you're done
[08:50] <josh_marshall> You played with Compiz Fusion much?
[08:50] <bruenig> no
[08:50] <_markt> you guys are making my head hurt
[08:51] <bruenig> I need this system, it is my production system if you will so I don't want to screw with it
[08:51] <kr00lplatinum> bruenig: do i have to state what package?
[08:51] <josh_marshall> I understand.
[08:51] <bruenig> kr00lplatinum, yeah when I said package, I meant for you to put the actual package
[08:51] <astro76> _markt, plus it doesn't appear to be fully back up
[08:51] <josh_marshall> I always say that... then I go off and screw it up anyway. I'm an obsessive re-installer... :)
[08:51] <compengi> kr00lplatinum, you need to type only sudo apt-get remove package-that-you-want-to-remove
[08:52] <alecwh> josh_marshall, no shame in that. ;)
[08:52] <bruenig> xfce keyboard setup is superior to gnome and I am a keyboard nut
[08:52] <neozen> josh_marshall: I'm a huge fan of xfce on NON resource-challenged machines
[08:52] <bruenig> I couldn't stand gnome's nonsense
[08:52] <alecwh> We are alike..
[08:52] <Keyseir> Anyone here play WoW through Wine and just install the new patch I can talk to?
[08:52] <alecwh> neozen, what is xfce?
[08:52] <bruenig> !xfce
[08:52] <josh_marshall> I use WoW through Wine, but I haven't paid for my account this month...
[08:52] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[08:52] <b0ne> alecwh, you and google don't get along so well eh? :)
[08:52] <neozen> alecwh: an alternative desktop environment to gnome or kde
[08:52] <josh_marshall> Has there been a patch in the latest week or so?
[08:53] <Jordan_U> josh_marshall, Try #winehq
[08:53] <_markt> yeah, it still can't connect to security.ubuntu.com
[08:53] <alecwh> and it's good? :P
[08:53] <Keyseir> Josh_marshall, Yes. And while I downloaded it fine, it won't restart and finish installing.
[08:53] <josh_marshall> It was running fine for me over the weekend...
[08:53] <alecwh> I've got a really nice PC, I want to use it's POWER!
[08:53] <neozen> alecwh: ::grins::
[08:53] <bob301> install boinc and folding@home
[08:53] <neozen> alecwh: you want absolute resource utilization ... you use gentoo
[08:53] <alecwh> I'm an eyecandy person....
[08:53] <josh_marshall> Jordan_U: Thanks, I wasn't asking for help, I was trying to helpKeyseir...
[08:54] <kr00lplatinum> Ok so I tired to get my audio working for a creative card. Someone created a .deb I installed it and now no audio works and it can't find anything. How do i remove that it's called "oss-linux_v4.0-1004_i386.deb
[08:54] <neozen> alecwh: you want it to WORK you use one of the ubuntus or perhaps foresight
[08:54] <Keyseir> ubotu, tell alecwh about compiz
[08:54] <neozen> Keyseir: ubotu is a bot
[08:54] <b0ne> lol
[08:54] <neozen> Keyseir: you use it like this
[08:54] <neozen> !compiz
[08:54] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:54] <neozen> and thank it like this
[08:54] <alecwh> lol
[08:54] <gdb> I'm pretty sure "tell soandso about topic" works as well
[08:54] <neozen> !botsnack
[08:54] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[08:54] <Madpilot> neozen, sure, but a bot intelligent enough to understand what Keyseir just said...
[08:54] <Keyseir> It's been a while.
[08:55] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell neozen about yourself
[08:55] <compengi> kr00lplatinum, go to synaptic package manager and search for it there, then remove it
[08:55] <gdb> ubotu then sends the information in a /msg
[08:55] <_markt> I wish I knew what to do with this page: http://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/amd64/pidgin
[08:55] <josh_marshall> Anyone in here had much success with Gnash?
[08:55] <josh_marshall> Yay4pidgin.
[08:55] <neozen> lol
[08:55] <kr00lplatinum> compengi: where would that be located, n00b here
[08:55] <neozen> Madpilot: didn't know it could parse things like that
[08:56] <compengi> kr00lplatinum, system>administration>synaptic package manager
[08:56] <astro76> kr00lplatinum, dpkg --remove or dpkg --purge, synaptic will not work
[08:56] <Madpilot> neozen, there are days I'm convinced the bot is the cleverest critter in this channel. Myself included, naturally. :)
[08:56] <bruenig> kr00lplatinum, just do sudo apt-get remove whateverthepackagewasnamed
[08:56] <neozen> josh_marshall: sadly.. i just use the adobe flash player.... and I hate it so... when firefox goes boom... its generally at fault
[08:56] <kr00lplatinum> bruenig: that didn't work
[08:56] <bruenig> kr00lplatinum, what did it say
[08:56] <neozen> Madpilot: lol
[08:57] <kr00lplatinum> bruenig: couldn't be found
[08:57] <neozen> Madpilot: anywhere else but irc... that could be a bad thing
[08:57] <josh_marshall> neozen: Yeah, I read that Gnash was going to be implemented (is that correct?) in Gutsy, but when I tried the package for Feisty, YouTube threw up all over Firefox.
[08:57] <legacy> #ubuntu-es
[08:57] <josh_marshall> *Er, Swiftfox.
[08:57] <bob301> When I worked at SOE, someone wrote a bot for the internal dev IRC channel that would throw out random Chuck Norris 'info' any time someone used the word 'Chuck' in a sentence.
[08:57] <neozen> ..........that's annoying
[08:58] <bruenig> kr00lplatinum, you did sudo apt-get remove oss-linux
[08:58] <jmak642> hey is there still a problem with the ubuntu websites?  I cant access a package that is supposed to be on security.ubuntu.com
[08:58] <bruenig> right?
[08:58] <neozen> what about upchuck
[08:58] <bruenig> jmak642, they were running on ubuntu so they were having the normal issues
[08:58] <_markt> security.ubuntu.com is still down
[08:58] <_markt> the others seem to be up
[08:58] <Madpilot> bob301, ubotu knows about Chuck too - try @chuck in #ubuntu-offtopic...
[08:58] <kr00lplatinum> bruenig: i found it in the package manager
[08:59] <bruenig> kr00lplatinum, did you run the command I said
[08:59] <neozen> Madpilot: oh bloody hell.... not chuck norris
[08:59] <jmak642> _markt: any idea when they are coming back up or an alternate location i can get the package for libpulse0?
[08:59] <bruenig> or not, what was your exact command
[08:59] <astro76> I guess everyone is trying to grab the openoffice update
[08:59] <bob301> neozen: yes, it was a simple pattern match. upchuck, woodchuck, any kind of chuck.
[08:59] <kr00lplatinum> bruenig: "E: oss-linux: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 2"
[08:59] <Madpilot> neozen, only in -offtopic. ubotu has some manners...
[09:00] <Pretor1ab> anyone know how to use GIMP?
[09:00] <bruenig> kr00lplatinum, oh, prerm script, there is a way but I am super tired and it is involved
[09:00] <ghostx> Pretor1ab, umm to do what ?
[09:00] <bruenig> Pretor1ab, click on it in the menus and just sort of click around
[09:00] <kr00lplatinum> bruenig: what do you suggest i do to get rid of it?
[09:00] <ghostx> LOL
[09:00] <Pretor1ab> anyone know how to use GIMP ---> by using the command line
[09:00] <jmak642> Pretor1ab: there is a channel #gimp
[09:00] <Vletmix> jmak642: I've been using http://mirrors.ccs.neu.edu/archive.ubuntu.com instead of security.ubuntu.com and it seems to work fine
[09:00] <Pretor1ab> come on over jmak642 you are most welcome
[09:00] <_markt> Pretor1ab: that doesn't seem to make any sense
[09:01] <Pretor1ab> anyone know how to use GIMP ---> by using the command line batch commands
[09:01] <jmak642> Vletmix: how can i tell apt-get to use that for its sources?
[09:01] <ghostx> Pretor1ab, gimp --help
[09:01] <Billou62_> bonjour ;)
[09:01] <Pretor1ab> ghostx, i already thought of that :)
[09:01] <bruenig> kr00lplatinum, in /var somewhere, there is a file called oss-linux.prerm, delete it, I don't know where it is as I am not using ubuntu any longer but I know it is in that directory somewhere
[09:02] <josh_marshall> Pretorlab: man gimp?
[09:02] <RoC_MasterMind> I have my hard drive configured as a IDE slave...if I switch it to master, will Ubuntu still boot properly and work...or will it be confused with thte device name changes?
[09:02] <kr00lplatinum> does anyone know where a n00b to Ubuntu and linux for that matter would be located. I would like a paperback if you could suggest any, websites are good too!
[09:03] <Vletmix> jmak642: Here's my sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29442/plain/
[09:03] <captbaritone> I originaly installed Ubuntu server addition and then installed Gnome on top. Now when I run things like emacs in a terminal window they open their own window. Is there a standard way to have things just run in the terminal?
[09:03] <Vletmix> jmak642: You could just: sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.original
[09:03] <_markt> kr00lplatinum: I'm a noob to ubuntu but not linux; does that count?
[09:04] <poolie> Pretor1ab, i think you need to feed it a list of SIOD lisp commands
[09:04] <Pretor1ab> sounds like what i need poolie
[09:04] <ghostx> _markt, if your not new to linux, im pretty sure ur not a noob to ubuntu :)
[09:04] <Pretor1ab> i have a hard time understanding how to write the procedure syntax commands poolie
[09:04] <poolie> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Basic_Batch/
[09:05] <_markt> oh yes I am
[09:05] <poolie> what are you trying to do?
[09:05] <LukeEkbla1> I neeed help
[09:05] <_markt> I haven't figured out how to install (or uninstall for that matter) much of anything yet
[09:05] <Pretor1ab> poolie, been there since last night re-reading the same text
[09:05] <LukeEkbla1> Is there a way to do like a system restore?
[09:05] <Pretor1ab> poolie, just trying to run a batch auto-levels command
[09:05] <ghostx> !ask LukeEbla1
[09:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask lukeebla1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:05] <poolie> across a series of images or something?
[09:06] <ghostx> dammit x 2
[09:06] <poolie> i assume you don't know Scheme?
[09:06] <LukeEkbla1> ok
[09:06] <LukeEkbla1> um
[09:06] <Pretor1ab> poolie, yes
[09:06] <astro76> captbaritone, emacs -nw
[09:06] <poolie> how about perl or python?
[09:06] <Pretor1ab> poolie, no i dont know scheme or perl or python but i am a good at picking things up
[09:06] <jmak642> Vletmix: thanks for that ubuntu backup link, did the trick
[09:06] <captbaritone> astro, Thanks, will that work with other programs? or do they each have their own switch?
[09:07] <Pretor1ab> poolie, i thought it was just something like this #gimp -b (gimp-levels-stretch \"my-image.jpg\")
[09:07] <astro76> captbaritone, that's emacs specific
[09:07] <jamesdell> wow more users
[09:07] <poolie> close but not quite
[09:07] <biotrox> hiks
[09:07] <poolie> it needs a reference to an image that's already loaded into memory
[09:07] <_markt> hooray, security.ubuntu.com is back up, and that fixed the build-dep problem
[09:07] <captbaritone> astro, so I should hunt through the man pages to find out how its done for each program?
[09:08] <biotrox> i'm still banned from #kubuntu
[09:08] <kurtti> I'm trying to install python-qt4 from a .deb, but it says Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libc6
[09:08] <Pretor1ab> poolie, so how can i load that into memory, by using a load procedure
[09:08] <astro76> _markt, good to hear, still trickling in over here
[09:08] <_markt> heh, I just got that error, too
[09:08] <kr00lplatinum> any WAR DRIVERS out there?
[09:08] <poolie> well check out the "processing several files" section
[09:08] <poolie> basically something like that, but substitute your command fro plug-in-unsharp-mask
[09:09] <kaushal> Hi
[09:09] <Pretor1ab> poolie, where is this section ?
[09:09] <poolie> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Basic_Batch/
[09:09] <poolie> near the bottom
[09:09] <astro76> captbaritone, isn't this only an emacs problem?
[09:09] <astro76> captbaritone, it behaves that way out of the box on feisty, btw
[09:09] <kaushal> We would like to extract the un-signed SSL certificate used by our application and its keystore password. Could you please provide us with the steps do this specially the keystore password?
[09:09] <jmak642> well that didnt help, mplayer wont work either
[09:10] <Pretor1ab> so poolie using the goal of auto-levels can you tell me the syntax using your example ?
[09:10] <Vletmix> jmak642: It sounds like it may not be the repos that are broken, but your package db
[09:10] <poolie> Pretor1ab, i believe it would just be
[09:10] <captbaritone> astro, Well, the same thing happened with synaptic
[09:10] <jmak642> Vletmix: nah i got it to install, but i cant play a dvd
[09:11] <poolie> (gimp-levels-stretch RUN-NONINTERACTIVE drawable)
[09:11] <Vletmix> ahh
[09:11] <captbaritone> astro, it happens which way out of the box in fiestey
[09:11] <Pretor1ab> poolie, ahh yes what is this drawable about ?
[09:11] <Vletmix> jmak642: vlc? ;)
[09:11] <captbaritone> fiesty*
[09:11] <poolie> note that this will overwrite your existing files
[09:11] <neozen> kaushal: well... I assume you're on the machine that issues the certificate yes?
[09:11] <jmak642> Vletmix: i tried totem, and that didnt work, vlc doesnt work, and now mplayer doesnt work.
[09:11] <poolie> so you might want to make a copy first :)
[09:11] <Pretor1ab> poolie, i see it keeps coming up but have no idea what drawable means?
[09:11] <jmak642> Vletmix: do i need to definate a region or something?
[09:11] <poolie> or change the file-save command to save them elsewhere, but that might be tricky
[09:12] <_markt> dang, no svn installed yet
[09:12] <Lelaki_Malam> xxx
[09:12] <astro76> captbaritone, emacs opens gui without the -nw option on feisty. Also, synaptic is gui only
[09:12] <poolie> Pretor1ab, well, it's a variable that references an object that can be drawn to
[09:12] <Lelaki_Malam> halo
[09:12] <jmak642> Vletmix: s/definate/define
[09:12] <poolie> in this case it's set in the line above to be the active layer of the image
[09:12] <captbaritone> astro, Oh! I see
[09:12] <neozen> kaushal: what you're looking for should be somewhere in /etc/ssl
[09:12] <Pretor1ab> poolie, so how does this look - #gimp -b (gimp-levels-auto "" "my-pic.png")
[09:12] <Vletmix> jmak642: don't know :-/ ... maybe google your dvd drive model and see if other linux users have had issues
[09:12] <bruenig> that was not terminated
[09:13] <captbaritone> astro, I thought my brother told me that there was a terminal gui for it
[09:13] <astro76> jmak642, what is the problem?
[09:13] <jmak642> hmm, lemme make this easier, i have 2 dvd drives...
[09:13] <astro76> captbaritone, maybe he meant aptitude
[09:13] <jmak642> astro76: i cant watch dvd's
[09:13] <poolie> Pretor1ab, no, you need to follow all the instructions there - make a script, save it in your plugins directory, etc
[09:13] <captbaritone> astro, Thats it!
[09:13] <poolie> i'm sorry but it's a lower-level interface than you think it is
[09:13] <astro76> jmak642, do you have libdvdcss2 installed?
[09:14] <jmak642> astro76: no i dont think so
[09:14] <astro76> !medibuntu | jmak642
[09:14] <ubotu> jmak642: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[09:14] <Pretor1ab> ok thanks poolie - can you help with that ? I just want to run auto-levels on a load of images
[09:14] <neozen> jmak642: you should install that
[09:14] <josh_marshall> jmak642: You in America?
[09:14] <Skrypt> Is tops the only command to view running processes?
[09:14] <neozen> josh_marshall: don't complicate things mon
[09:14] <astro76> jmak642, you need that
[09:14] <josh_marshall> :)
[09:14] <Pretor1ab> poolie, thats cool just trying to understand it enough to do what i want, not bothered about getting into it
[09:14] <_markt> Skrypt: ps aux
[09:14] <josh_marshall> Automatix FTW.
[09:14] <b0ne> top is much nicer though
[09:14] <gdb> Pretor1ab: Have you considered ImageMagick?
[09:15] <Skrypt> what's the command to then kill a program? "kill PROGRAM" ?
[09:15] <neozen> josh_marshall: if he is an american... he's pissed like all the rest of us that he can't watch something he paid for on his computer
[09:15] <poolie> Pretor1ab, how about if you read that document starting from 'a simple example' and then tell me which bit you have trouble with
[09:15] <gdb> Pretor1ab: It's designed for this sort of thing, scripted manipulations of images.
[09:15] <_markt> Skrypt: killall program or pkill program
[09:15] <poolie> there's no point in me just repeating it to you
[09:15] <b0ne> kill -9 process_id
[09:15] <_markt> Skrypt: or kill `pgrep program`
[09:15] <Skrypt> <3 thanks
[09:15] <josh_marshall> Oh, I completely agree, and "stick it to the man" is a motto of mine, it's just nice to 'warn' with an encouraging push.
[09:15] <poolie> actually maybe someone's already written a script to make this easier?
[09:16] <csj> hello, I use xrandr to list supported resolutions, max = 800x480, but some window larger than 800x480, how to set X to 800x600 and compressed vertical resolution?
[09:16] <Pretor1ab> gdb is it command  line?
[09:16] <gdb> Pretor1ab: Yes, all of the ImageMagick modules are CLI.
[09:16] <poolie> yes, it is
[09:16] <neozen> !automatix | josh_marshall
[09:16] <ubotu> josh_marshall: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[09:16] <poolie> i don't know if it does this exact operation though
[09:17] <Pretor1ab> will have to have a look at that then - does it do batch processing ?
[09:17] <gdb> I'm not certain of that, either.
[09:17] <poolie> Pretor1ab, so, here's what you need to do:
[09:17] <gdb> Yes, or you can simply wrap the relavent commands in a for loop.
[09:17] <_markt> hey, I use you for debugging
[09:17] <poolie> copy the block that begins
[09:17] <josh_marshall> neozen: Seriously? I've been using Automatix for... like, forever. Never really had a problem with it.
[09:17] <poolie>  (define (batch-unsharp-mask pattern
[09:17] <poolie> mm
[09:17] <poolie> actually this is going to be kind of slow
[09:17] <josh_marshall> neozen: Now I'm aware -- that's the official stance from Ubuntu?
[09:17] <neozen> josh_marshall: ever tried doing a distribution upgrade after installing things with automatix?
[09:18] <jmak642> astro76: ok i installed it, now just apt-get libdvdcss2?
[09:18] <josh_marshall> Oh -- BLECH. Distribution upgrades have been hell since Warty.
[09:18] <arn_> hi, can anyon tell me how can i change my password?
[09:18] <neozen> josh_marshall: yes... that's the official stance
[09:18] <_markt> arn_: passwd
[09:18] <astro76> jmak642, if you followed there instructions to add the repository, yes, sudo apt-get libdvdcss2
[09:18] <astro76> *their
[09:18] <arn_> i tried "sudo passwd" but seems its not changing my password
[09:18] <jmak642> astro76: right on
[09:18] <_markt> that will change your root password
[09:18] <neozen> but you're using linux.. there are choices
[09:18] <n00dl3> arn_: lol
[09:18] <josh_marshall> neozen: I've never had a dist-upgrade work on Ubuntu, Automatix or not.
[09:18] <Skrypt> How do I get shadows on GNOME? xcompmgr?
[09:18] <Pretor1ab> sudo passwd user
[09:19] <neozen> ...whether you used what's suggested or not is completely up to you
[09:19] <_markt> Skrypt: yes, or a window manager that supports them internally
[09:19] <josh_marshall> neozen: Well, now I know that is the official stance, I'll definitely keep it in mind.
[09:19] <neozen> josh_marshall: I've just backed up home, installed, and blown it out after install of the newest
[09:19] <Skrypt> _markt: do you know if there are known issues / workarounds for AMD64?
[09:19] <josh_marshall> neozen: I try to stay aware of the trends and recommendations.
[09:19] <neozen> josh_marshall: ::nods::
[09:20] <neozen> josh_marshall: well you are now aware
[09:20] <_markt> Skrypt: I don't know; I've been on amd64 for about 45 minutes
[09:20] <Skrypt> :P
[09:20] <_markt> I'm still trying to get rid of gnome
[09:20] <jmak642> josh_marshall: dont worry, I understand the yappity yap, but after all until in isntalled ubuntu i had been pirating windows with the best of them, never did pay for a single seat, even got vista ultimate cracked, and just plain hated it so much i had to find a new way
[09:20] <Skrypt> What for?
[09:20] <neozen> _markt: ......you installed ubuntu... don't get rid of gnome
[09:20] <_markt> fluxbox, of course
[09:20] <josh_marshall> Skrypt: I had interesting troubles with an AMD64 install, so I popped back to the normal install.
[09:20] <Skrypt> Fluxbox? hmm. google here I come.
[09:20] <neozen> _markt: use fluxbuntu
[09:20] <_markt> oh, it's going away
[09:21] <_markt> Skrypt: don't bother
[09:21] <tim__> hi
[09:21] <kurtti> How to upgrade libc6 to 2.6, when the .deb says it conflicts with the package tzdata?
[09:21] <Skrypt> josh_marshall: with xcompmgr?
[09:21] <neozen> _markt: that's the ubuntu-base with fluxbox properly installed
[09:21] <josh_marshall> Skrypt: With EVERYTHING.
[09:21] <_markt> I don't want to download and install another os
[09:21] <Skrypt> LOL.
[09:21] <_markt> I don't want a binary package of fluxbox
[09:21] <neozen> _markt: ok.... well have fun keeping gnome gone
[09:21] <_markt> I'm installing the unstable svn branch
[09:21] <Pretor1ab> gdb, can imagemagick do auto-levels?
[09:21] <neozen> _markt: it could get rough
[09:21] <josh_marshall> Skrypt: Especially anything I couldn't grab the source for.
[09:21] <gdb> Pretor1ab: That I can't answer.
[09:21] <_markt> if I can't keep gnome gone, I'll switch distros
[09:21] <Flannel> neozen: fluxbuntu is not ubuntu+fluxbox, it's different.
[09:22] <astro76> kurtti, changing your libc6 will cause serious system breakage
[09:22] <EdLin> _markt: apt-get build-dep fluxbox, see if that helps you compile it...
[09:22] <Skrypt> _markt: holy hell. fluxbox looks hot.
[09:22] <_markt> EdLin: already done that
[09:22] <Pretor1ab> ahh so back to gimp then
[09:22] <neozen> Flannel: is it?
[09:22] <_markt> Skrypt: thanks
[09:22] <EdLin> _markt: sorry, I just /joined
[09:22] <_markt> Skrypt: it's not for noobs, though
[09:22] <Skrypt> _markt: I figured as much.
[09:22] <b0ne> is it kind of the norm to tell people to switch versions rather than just installing a new WM and editing a few conf files?
[09:23] <gdb> Pretor1ab: http://www.imagemagick.org/script/index.php -- list of features there on the front page
[09:23] <neozen> b0ne: depends on how much they like the new one
[09:23] <Skrypt> It looks bloody amazing though. I wish I could get gnome to do a lot of things i'm seeing in these screen shots.
[09:23] <josh_marshall> b0ne: I wonder with the more mainstream Ubuntu gets, if the fear of conf files is going to get extreme.
[09:23] <tim__> i am trying to open kommander editor in kde as root can open as normal user but not as root ?
[09:23] <_markt> I know I like the new one; I'm a developer
[09:23] <Pretor1ab> thanks gdb very handy!
[09:23] <neozen> b0ne: if they get really attached to it and want the space back..... yeah sure... go with the one without gnome
[09:23] <kurtti> astro76, I'm trying to install python-qt, but it requires libc6 2.5 or higher. I have 2.4
[09:23] <EdLin> _markt: what are the new fluxbox features?
[09:23] <astro76> tim__, try kdesu kommander
[09:23] <Skrypt> Oo. :) Appreciate your entertaining of newbish questions then, mate.
[09:23] <_markt> EdLin: since when?
[09:23] <neozen> b0ne: that's always the stance I've taken
[09:23] <b0ne> thats why i install ubuntu server instead
[09:23] <jmak642> astro76: you are my hero, totem now plays dvd's, like Lucky Number Sleven
[09:24] <EdLin> _markt: since the svn release, I've used it in the recent past.
[09:24] <josh_marshall> jmak642: Great flick, btw.
[09:24] <neozen> b0ne: ah.. but server has a few things missing that a desktop user might want
[09:24] <tim__> astro76; thanks I will give it a go
[09:24] <b0ne> you can't apt-get those?
[09:24] <astro76> kurtti, python-qt3 and python-qt4 are in ubuntu's repositories and will work with the installed libc6
[09:24] <neozen> b0ne: don't think so
[09:24] <astro76> kurtti, what are you running?
[09:24] <neozen> b0ne: whole other kernel
[09:24] <josh_marshall> b0ne: Actually, feisty was the first time since (Dapper?) the first server edition that I didn't grab the server and apt-get ubuntu-desktop ...
[09:24] <jmak642> josh_marshall: now if i could only figure out how to rip it just to piss off the mpaa
[09:25] <josh_marshall> Aha.
[09:25] <kurtti> trying to install a program called Anki on this Edgy
[09:25] <jonta> Hmm, is there a problem with security.ubuntu.com?
[09:25] <josh_marshall> jmak642: There are several DVD rippers...
[09:25] <_markt> nothing really in main svn -- we're keeping it stable for 1.0 release; pre-devel svn has some new stuff -- regular expressions for just about every keybinding, so you can apply them to groups of windows; a feature that doesn't let new windows steal the focus while typing
[09:25] <py_geek> hi everybody
[09:25] <neozen> jonta: perhaps they're still down
[09:25] <astro76> jmak642, dvdrip is one
[09:25] <kurtti> or run it
[09:25] <lucky> hi, i get this message, Parse error on line 134 of section Screen in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf "1024x768" is not a valid keyword in this section.
[09:25] <jmak642> josh_marshall: i'm sure, i'll look for it, got any recommendations? oooh thanks astro
[09:25] <lucky> i cant start x
[09:25] <jonta> neozen: ok, so there was a problem. good to know =)
[09:25] <biotrox> people
[09:25] <biotrox> one question
[09:26] <neozen> biotrox: yes?
[09:26] <EdLin> _markt: 1.0 release... that's a pretty good new feature. ;-)
[09:26] <DFM> Hello, I am having a problem with random CRC error's when attempting to boot. This has happened from 6.06 through 7.04 on different hardware which I feel eliminaes my pc
[09:26] <biotrox> i want to make a video screen shot in ubuntu
[09:26] <biotrox> how how..?
[09:26] <neozen> DFM: well.. your hd might be going kaboom
[09:26] <_markt> EdLin: yeah, I think we'll release it in the next couple of weeks
[09:26] <DFM> I have searched the forums and I feel like I am chasing my tail
[09:26] <astro76> kurtti, well you might want to try edgy's python-qt
[09:26] <Pretor1ab> poolie, ??
[09:26] <neozen> biotrox: easiest way I've found is with vnc2swf
[09:26] <josh_marshall> jmak642: dvdrip is what I've used (or VLC for 'interesting' rips) and dvdrip is in the repositories, I believe.
[09:26] <neozen> biotrox: google for it
[09:26] <biotrox> vnc2swf..?
[09:27] <biotrox> oke
[09:27] <biotrox> thanks
[09:27] <neozen> biotrox: yep
[09:27] <DFM> Thought of that however I have one ide and two sata's and will get this on all
[09:27] <jmak642> jonta: if u need a package someone gave me http://mirrors.ccs.neu.edu/archive.ubuntu.com/ as a nice alternate location
[09:27] <b0ne> biotrox: google.com?q=record+desktop+ubuntu
[09:27] <DFM> also have gotten this on completely diff hardware
[09:27] <jonta> jmak642: ah, nice, i'm gonna write that down :)
[09:27] <b0ne> first link is to ubuntuforums for "record your desktop with recordmydesktop"
[09:28] <kurtti> astro76, I have python-qt 4.0 installed, but the program needs 4.2
[09:28] <jmak642> jonta: just grab it and dump it in /var/cache/apt/archives
[09:28] <DFM> What baffles me is that it tells me it's a kernel panic VFS: Unable to mount root on FS on unknown block 0,0
[09:28] <neozen> biotrox: you'll have to install a vnc server (I personally recommend x11vnc for ease) and your clients will need a flash player of some sort.... but it's done just fine for my purposes
[09:28] <jmak642> jonta: then apt-get it
[09:28] <bob301> DFM: CRC's are errors that occur when reading data. you usually see this on failing CD  or DVD drives on the media themselves.
[09:28] <jonta> jmak642: thanks =)
[09:28] <random1> Oay
[09:28] <random1> Okay
[09:28] <random1> So making progress
[09:28] <DFM> That's what I was reading which is why I am confused
[09:28] <neozen> biotrox: a note... keep your recordings under 20 minutes or so... the swf's start getting very sketchy after that period of time... this is apparently a known issue with flash
[09:29] <random1> I boot and it just says GRUB _ and sits there.
[09:29] <bob301> DFM: You get this when booting from a LiveCD?
[09:29] <neozen> b0ne: recordmydesktop eh?
[09:29] <DFM> Whats more I can boot into recovery console just fine and if I drop down 1 kernel I can boot to desktop with out incident
[09:29] <abhi> how do i convince my clients to use Ubuntu Server over RHEL?
[09:29] <DFM> no from HD
[09:29] <poolie> Pretor1ab, sorry, i don't have time to develop it for you
[09:29] <Pretor1ab> no worries
[09:29] <abhi> is Ubuntu server as capable?
[09:29] <Pretor1ab> poolie,
[09:29] <poolie> if you try to work through that tutorial and have trouble you can ask here
[09:29] <neozen> abhi: get them to use apt
[09:29] <poolie> or in #gimp i guess
[09:30] <b0ne> neozen: *shrug* thats what the forum topic was... exercizing web search skills is always a positive thing right? :)
[09:30] <neozen> abhi: or aptitude
[09:30] <Pretor1ab> cool thanks poolie
[09:30] <neozen> abhi: that's what sold me
[09:30] <neozen> abhi: it just works soooooo much better
[09:30] <neozen> b0ne: absolutely
[09:30] <tim__> astro76; what is the url of the pastebin I want to show you the result
[09:30] <bob301> DFM: I'm not an expert, but it sounds like a kernel upgrade did not work properly.
[09:30] <b0ne> aptitude is pretty nice on server w/o synaptic
[09:30] <kurtti> astro76, upgrading python-qt to 4.2 won't work from the repos, and the .deb won't work because it expects libc6 version 2.5 or higher
[09:30] <DFM> If I reboot over and over sometimes it will boot, sometimes I have to boot into recovery and then reboot again and all is well.
[09:30] <abhi> neozen: ok
[09:31] <Brandooo> anyone know how to fix bugs with sound after coming out of suspend?
[09:31] <josh_marshall> abhi: I've never really used RHEL, but depending on what sort of server you're building (web, svn, media, flash, combination) I've done most all of those with Ubuntu and NEVER had a box come down -- except when I forget to pay the power.
[09:31] <josh_marshall> :)
[09:31] <abhi> neozen: but they think that it cannot handle as much load as RHEL AS
[09:31] <bob301> DFM: Are the two entries in GRUB the same,(except the bootable one has the word Recovery in it)? Or are they different kernel versions?
[09:31] <DFM> That makes sense but it has been working fine for over two weeks and now I can't boot into 2.6.20-16
[09:31] <b0ne> it's the same kernel
[09:31] <DFM> same kernel
[09:31] <rockets> Jordan_U, hey, still there?
[09:31] <abhi> abhi: here in INdia they feel more comfortable if MS RH or Novell certifies something
[09:31] <neozen> abhi: I'm sure someone has done some study on it
[09:32] <rockets> Jordan_U, the wifi wont operate at more then 11MB now :-P
[09:32] <neozen> abhi: I don't have one in front of me right now (as I've never needed to care)
[09:32] <b0ne> apache + kernel tends to behave the same regardless of distro heh
[09:32] <josh_marshall> abhi: Ugh, you mean the MS 'make money off of linux' scare scheme?
[09:32] <DFM> bob301:Right now I am running kernel 20-15 with out any problem
[09:32] <abhi> josh_marshall:
[09:32] <abhi> josh_marshall: yea
[09:32] <abhi> josh_marshall: they believe MS and Novell and RH
[09:32] <abhi> josh_marshall: not debian or ubuntu
[09:32] <tim__> astro76: here is the paste bin result http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29445/
[09:33] <Jordan_U> rockets, The drivers are better on some cards then others, you might want to go back to ndiswrapper until they get better
[09:33] <neozen> abhi: well..... there's always apt -rpm
[09:33] <DFM> bob301:I don't mind running this kernel but I have been unable to resolve this random issue and usually have to reload
[09:33] <LukeEkblad> HElp!  I just installed a cupple beryl packeges then after i installed them all the settings i put into beryl where erased!  pluss, now i cant download anything anymore.  I cant even open the Add/Remove thing
[09:33] <Jordan_U> rockets, I doubt that it is something "fixable"
[09:33] <rockets> Jordan_U, never mind, i was able to force 54mb by doing iwconfig eth1 rate 54M
[09:33] <astro76> kurtti, are you trying to install the pyton-qt4 from here? http://www.pvv.org/~haraldhv/anki-deb/
[09:33] <b0ne> i just started using arch linux, pacman is nice
[09:33] <Jordan_U> rockets, Maybe it is :)
[09:33] <josh_marshall> abhi: Well, power to the corporations, I suppose. :( You can pay for support from Canonical, if they need the corporate handholding.
[09:33] <rockets> Jordan_U, still, that's annoying
[09:33] <josh_marshall> abhi: I would rather pay for support from Canonical than rent my server.
[09:33] <rockets> for all I know, it only THINKS its going at 54MB now
[09:33] <kurtti> astro76, from there and from here http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/python/python-qt4
[09:34] <DFM> From my understanding reloading is absolutely the last thing you want to do.
[09:34] <neozen> abhi: well... there you go
[09:34] <abhi> good idea
[09:34] <neozen> abhi: there's your certified support
[09:34] <LukeEkblad> Pleas help?
[09:34] <neozen> time for me to sleep
[09:34] <astro76> tim__, it's probably kommander
[09:34] <DFM> I am not new to Linux but I am not a guru either
[09:34] <bob301> DFM This does sound like there are some bad sectors on the HDD, probably where the new kernel is written. You can usually get a bootable floppy or CDROm image from the manufacturer of the hard drive, which should contain a utility for checking (and hopefully repairing) bad sectors.
[09:34] <neozen> LukeEkblad: seek help in #ubuntu-effects for help w/ beryl/compiz/compiz-fusion etc
[09:34] <kurtti> astro76, sorry that was the 4.0 version
[09:35] <LukeEkblad> I just need help with getting my install thing back
[09:35] <LukeEkblad> I cant even get updates now :(
[09:35] <josh_marshall> abhi: I think DEVELOPMENT on Ubuntu or Debian (or even Fedora) is better because of the things like this IRC channel -- it's so much quicker to get help.
[09:35] <rockets> Jordan_U, yeah, it goes SLOWER in 54M.
[09:35] <neozen> LukeEkblad: sounds like you've killled your sources.list
[09:35] <neozen> !sources
[09:35] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:35] <LukeEkblad> ok
[09:35] <rockets> Jordan_U, 11M is fine for the net, cuz I only have a 3 megabit connection. but not for network transfer
[09:35] <josh_marshall> abhi: But that doesn't necessarily convice a client, just developers.
[09:36] <neozen> !easysource
[09:36] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:36] <LukeEkblad> how do i reserect it?
[09:36] <DFM> bob301:That's what I thought and have run the utility and found no error's. I even reloaded onto a new sata and got the same problem after about a week.
[09:36] <neozen> !easysource | LukeEkblad
[09:36] <ubotu> LukeEkblad: please see above
[09:36] <b0ne> well it isn't always easy to get help, there's a lot of "noise" from people who won't search for answers at all
[09:36] <abhi> josh_marshall: we use Ubuntu for development
[09:36] <neozen> LukeEkblad: you want the source-o-matic
[09:36] <abhi> josh_marshall: but during deployment
[09:36] <n00dl3> b0ne: How true
[09:36] <LukeEkblad> ok
[09:36] <josh_marshall> What sort of services are you providing? Base LAMP stuff or something else?
[09:36] <neozen> farewell
[09:37] <DFM> bob301:That's when I figured it was something in my hardware and loaded on a completely different system with diff MB and HD and Ram. Same issue after short period.
[09:37] <abhi> josh_marshall: they want SuSE or RHEL
[09:37] <neozen> the rest of the room can help you from there
[09:37] <abhi> josh_marshall: we do LAP not M :) we use O instead or PG
[09:37] <b0ne> postgres, ew
[09:37] <b0ne> lol
[09:37] <DFM> bob301:usually happens after kernel upgrades which I just accept when it tells me there is an upgrade. I think I am doing something to it but I have no clue what.
[09:38] <abhi> b0ne: well pg is better than mysql
[09:38] <bob301> DFM; Intermittent problems like this are usually hardware related, but difficult to track. by chaning HDD's, you can usually eliminate the drive itself as a problem (not always though).  However, if you plugged the drive into the same cable, or into the same controller, then either of those could be to blame. Alternatively, it could be the RAM, or an underlying problem with the chipset and bus that the data is traveling over.
[09:38] <datakid23_> newbie question: how can I tell what type of cpu I have: i686 or pentium4? it's an intel core duo...?
[09:38] <abhi> b0ne:  i find it more advanced
[09:38] <astro76> kurtti, there's really no easy way to do it
[09:38] <bob301> DFM: usually though, that wouldn't affect just one kernel, it would crop up randomly for all versions.
[09:38] <LukeEkblad> What do i do with all that code?
[09:38] <abhi> josh_marshall: it's such a pain to migrate to SuSE or RHEL
[09:38] <_markt> datakid23_: it's certainly an i686, but it might also be a pentium4
[09:38] <astro76> kurtti, gutsy has all the right versions
[09:38] <kurtti> datakid23_, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:38] <b0ne> i'm just kidding, i think you're right, i saw some recently upgraded postgres benchmarks which put the hurt on mysql
[09:38] <abhi> josh_marshall: SuSE has to be the most painful
[09:39] <kurtti> astro76, ok thanks
[09:39] <datakid23_> kurtti, _markt have done the cat /proc./cpuinfo but it doesn't distinguish, it only says "Intel Core 2 CPU) with lots of TMs in there
[09:39] <bob301> DFM: Hmm...Do you know the arcitecture of the chip, and which kernel you are running? For instance, it's possible the new kernel is for an AMD64, but will nto work on a Core2.
[09:39] <josh_marshall> abhi: Kay kay. Well, as long as you aren't doing WAP, I'll be okay. :) Windows + PHP +  Apache = Aneurysm
[09:40] <LukeEkblad> neozen: what do i do with all that code?
[09:40] <DFM> I have seen this in every kernel since I started with Ubuntu. Keep figuring it's my hardware but I have 3 friends running 7.04 and they have seen it also except after 2 or 3 reboot theirs starts working.
[09:40] <josh_marshall> abhi: I've actually not done much with Suse -- once you go APT, you never go back.
[09:40] <tim__> astro76: here is result  for  kommander http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29446/
[09:40] <DFM> I am running AMD 64 3200 and the kernel was installed automatically through updates and it is 2.6.20-16 generic
[09:41] <LukeEkblad> ubotu:   what do i do with all this code?
[09:41] <RudyValencia> 'lo
[09:41] <b0ne> mmm pizza
[09:41] <RudyValencia> Why are my fonts rendering so ugly? I've even tried that little snippet of XML that's supposed to fix it.
[09:42] <josh_marshall> b0ne: Crap, now I'm jonesin.
[09:42] <DFM> bob301:I am not familiar with removing updates. Is there a way to run the update and remove this? I know I can remove through apt if I know exactly what to remove.
[09:42] <astro76> tim__, I don't use kde
[09:42] <astro76> tim__, dpkg -L kommander | grep bin
[09:43] <astro76> tim__, that will show you the commands for that package
[09:43] <RudyValencia> I hope that they fix font rendering :/
[09:43] <jmak642> astro76: so i grabbed that program dvdrip and it works well, but in the preferences it says i need rar-2.80 and i dont have it.   i apt-get rar but that didnt help
[09:44] <DarthShrine> Is it possible to get a 1280x800 framebuffer with the Intel 945GM chipset?
[09:45] <Jordan_U> RudyValencia, I personally think fonts look fine, it's mostly subjective
[09:45] <josh_marshall> DarthShrine: You on a Intel Core Duo system?
[09:45] <astro76> jmak642, I haven't used it in awhile, I don't remember it needing rar and have no idea why it would
[09:45] <DarthShrine> josh_marshall, Yeah.
[09:45] <astro76> jmak642, maybe it just works without it?
[09:45] <LukeEkblad>  HElp!  I just installed a cupple beryl packeges then after i installed them all the settings i put into beryl where erased!  pluss, now i cant download anything anymore.  I cant even open the Add/Remove thing
[09:45] <kraut> moin
[09:45] <josh_marshall> DarthShrine: You having any ... systematic but non-fatal lag issues?
[09:45] <RudyValencia> Jordan_U: Then again, you're probably used to Freetype's implementation of hinting
[09:45] <jmak642> astro76: maybe, it says i need it for vobsub compression
[09:45] <DarthShrine> josh_marshall, In which areas?
[09:46] <bob301> DFM: I have never removed a kernel, but these instructions may help: http://occy.net/node/142
[09:47] <josh_marshall> DarthShrine: I've got the same (but custom) system as the System76 Darter, and I installed a vanilla Feisty Desktop install, and random processes just bog down -- everything from Firefox to Pidgin to Inkscape.
[09:47] <LukeEkblad> Somebody help pleazzzz
[09:47] <RudyValencia> is there a package for Freetype that uses the bytecode interpreter?
[09:47] <nrik> hello, help please how to rollup backups from images on Ubuntu 6.10 Livecd
[09:47] <josh_marshall> DarthShrine: I've been using Ubuntu since Warty, and I've installed it on pretty much anything with a BIOS and a hard drive, and this is the first time I've see this particular issue.
[09:47] <DarthShrine> josh_marshall, Odd... I've got no problems on this computer.
[09:47] <josh_marshall> DarthShrine: I've got Feisty on two AMD64 systems and one Athlon 1GHz...
[09:48] <DFM> bob301:thanks I will check into it. I thought of just disabling it in grub but then I wouldn't be learning anything except how to bypass it.
[09:48] <josh_marshall> DarthShrine: No problems on them.
[09:48] <Jordan_U> RudyValencia, Gutsy's fonts look different, whether they are "better" or not I can't say, but try the tribe2 liveCD ( and help with bugfixing too :)
[09:48] <LukeEkblad> Will somebody help me?
[09:48] <nrik> --- from /media/sdb1/image-sda3.00* to /media/sda3
[09:48] <josh_marshall> DarthShrine: Good -- that means there's hope. :)
[09:48] <DarthShrine> josh_marshall, Hehe :)
[09:48] <josh_marshall> DarthShrine: You running Beryl?
[09:48] <RudyValencia> I don't want to use any more CDs.
[09:48] <astro76> jmak642, probably just uncheck vobsub compression then, a quick google search shows people having to compile the right version of rar
[09:48] <DarthShrine> josh_marshall, Yeah.
[09:48] <josh_marshall> DarthShrine: On Gnome?
[09:48] <Flannel> LukeEkblad: beryl support is in #ubuntu-effects, thanks.
[09:48] <LukeEkblad> ...
[09:48] <DarthShrine> josh_marshall, Yup.
[09:48] <bob301> DMF: I know what you mean. I have (unfortunately) trashed many a system in that learning curve, and no doubt will add a few more to the list as time goes on.
[09:49] <DarthShrine> !patience | LukeEkblad
[09:49] <ubotu> LukeEkblad: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:49] <b0ne> LukeEkblad: read what neozen was saying about easy source
[09:49] <LukeEkblad> fI just need to know how i can download stuff again
[09:49] <josh_marshall> DarthShrine: Sorry to keep hassling you -- what chipset is your wireless? (I'm wondering if it's network related...)
[09:49] <LukeEkblad>  i cant even updaye
[09:49] <LukeEkblad> update*
[09:50] <nrik> please tell witch program to use for backuping system?
[09:50] <Jordan_U> LukeEkblad, The repos have been flakey recently
[09:50] <Flannel> !backup | nrik
[09:50] <ubotu> nrik: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[09:50] <RudyValencia> I think that Ubuntu doesn't have the bytecode interpreter enabled in freetype and I think it's what I need in order for fonts to look right
[09:50] <nrik> or making images from disks
[09:50] <DarthShrine> josh_marshall, Erm.."Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)" according to lspci...
[09:50] <LukeEkblad> Jordan_U:   ok,
[09:50] <nrik> o... senx
[09:50] <LukeEkblad> Jordan_U:   can you help me fix the download thing?
[09:50] <dromer> anybody here experience with SynCE ?
[09:50] <astro76> RudyValencia, I think I read something about the bytecode interpreter being patent encumbered
[09:51] <astro76> RudyValencia, and not being enabled
[09:51] <Jordan_U> LukeEkblad, Try a different mirror ?
[09:51] <RudyValencia> yeah, and that's why my fonts are looking sucky huh?
[09:51] <LukeEkblad> Jordan_U:   No, i cant even get to my Add/remove thing
[09:51] <josh_marshall> DarthShrine: Okay, so as far as I can tell, we're running identical setups... :)
[09:51] <b0ne> bbl
[09:51] <LukeEkblad> the message pops up
[09:51] <DarthShrine> josh_marshall, Okies :)
[09:51] <josh_marshall> DarthShrine: Did you use Automatix? I've just been warned about that tonight...
[09:52] <DarthShrine> josh_marshall, Nope. Never will either :)
[09:52] <Jordan_U> LukeEkblad, No, I mean try changing what mirror you are getting your packages from
[09:52] <astro76> RudyValencia, guess you could get the apt-get the source package and compile it (after making the appropriate change)
[09:52] <RudyValencia> well, I know nothing about that
[09:52] <josh_marshall> DarthShrine: Kay -- maybe there's something in that...
[09:52] <DarthShrine> josh_marshall, Maybe.
[09:52] <LukeEkblad> Jordan_U:  i know, thats not my problem tho
[09:52] <astro76> RudyValencia, see if google knows
[09:52] <LukeEkblad> Jordan_U:  nvm' :(
[09:52] <josh_marshall> DarthShrine: Thanks for allowing me to interrogate you. :)
[09:53] <DarthShrine> josh_marshall, Not a problem.
[09:53] <nomic> i have instlaled ubuntu on an advent laptop ok but the sound doesn't work
[09:53] <josh_marshall> DarthShrine: Oh! One more thing -- are you running the generic kernel?
[09:53] <nomic> anyone got any pointers
[09:53] <Jordan_U> LukeEkblad, What is the problem?
[09:53] <LukeEkblad> I just need help.   This message pops up whenever i try to update my system or go to the add/remove thing
[09:53] <DarthShrine> josh_marshall, Yeah.
[09:53] <josh_marshall> LukeEkblad: What message?
[09:53] <Jordan_U> LukeEkblad, This message...
[09:54] <_markt> lol
[09:54] <Lounge> kernel issue: i just installed linux-kernel-image-2.6.22-7-generic, but then i forgot that  there's no nvida-glx for that kernel yet. any advice on what to do would nice
[09:54] <LukeEkblad> what?
[09:54] <astro76> LukeEkblad, what message?
[09:54] <holycow> DFM, i don't have your original question in the buffer, what issue are you running into?
[09:54] <holycow> it almost sounds like mine
[09:54] <bob301> LukeEkblad, what message pops up?
[09:54] <nomic> and also more of an obscure question I have a package from IBM (u2) it says that it will run on redhat enterprise edition and suse enterprise addition (both not free software) does this software if it works on those stand any chance of working on ubuntu? (xubuntu)
[09:54] <LukeEkblad> hold on
[09:55] <Lounge> right now i'm running the new kernel but with no 3d support
[09:55] <Lounge> tips?
[09:55] <nomic> whats a decent sound or media package on ubuntu or available through apt-get?
[09:55] <Jordan_U> !rpm | nomic
[09:55] <nomic> pls
[09:55] <ubotu> nomic: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[09:55] <nomic> right
[09:55] <nomic> ubotu stuff is so silly now can't even find the ibm install instructions for linux on their website
[09:55] <Jordan_U> nomic, Playing? Editing?
[09:56] <nomic> playing or editing?
[09:56] <nomic> i am not trolling
[09:56] <Jordan_U> nomic, Multimedia package
[09:56] <nomic> ah ok
[09:56] <nomic> playing please
[09:56] <DFM> holycow:crc error kernel panic VFS:unable to mount root FS on unknown block 0,0...... when booting from HD. Can boot into recovery kernel and drop down one kernel and boot just fine to desktop.
[09:56] <Jordan_U> !codecs | nomic
[09:56] <ubotu> nomic: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:56] <nomic> thnx jordan
[09:56] <bob301> holycow: DFM is getting CRC errors when trying to load a specfic kernel, one of the options from the GRUB menu. This occurs across multiple hardware configurations, and usually pops up shortly after installing a new kernel.
[09:56] <Jordan_U> nomic, np
[09:57] <nomic> VIVA UBUNTU!
[09:59] <josh_marshall> nomic: Viva Ubuntu indeed.
[09:59] <nomic> (:
[09:59] <Simplechat> quite so?
[09:59] <juggernaut> all:hi
[10:00] <Simplechat> hey juggernaut!
[10:00] <Simplechat> how are you?
[10:00] <Simplechat> :)
[10:00] <LukeEkblad> http://lukeekblad.googlepages.com/grrrr   ok, theres the error message
[10:00] <Jordan_U> LukeEkblad, And what happens when you run those commands?
[10:01] <astro76> LukeEkblad, well if you had updated before, it could be screwy because the servers have been up and down
[10:01] <sx66> how do you undo changes of a ntfs parition that has been changed to fat32 back to ntfs (windows in on that)
[10:01] <gholm> hey all, just updated nvidia-glx-new and now I can't startX (just get a black screen)  - did a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg several times and no luck
[10:01] <juggernaut> *Juggernaut smiles
[10:01] <LukeEkblad> Jordan_U:   Um, it dosent let me
[10:01] <astro76> LukeEkblad, try sudo apt-get update again
[10:01] <juggernaut> Simplechat: hey simplechat
[10:01] <juggernaut> Simplechat: i am fine
[10:01] <astro76> LukeEkblad, you can't do sudo apt-get update ?
[10:01] <Jordan_U> LukeEkblad, In what way does it not let you?
[10:02] <LukeEkblad> I can do that
[10:02] <LukeEkblad> I'm doing it now
[10:02] <josh_marshall> Gholm: It should have backed up your Xorg -- did you check in the /etc/X11/ folder?
[10:02] <josh_marshall> *Xorg.conf
[10:02] <gholm> josh_marshall: yeah I back it up manually, and when I use the orig it still don't work...wtf?
[10:02] <astro76> xorg.conf
[10:02] <josh_marshall> Gholm: Hmm... That's fun.
[10:02] <bob301> sx66, WindowsXp has a utility to convert a filesystem from FAT32 to NTFS. http://www.aumha.org/win5/a/ntfscvt.php Or were youlooking to go back to FAT32 from NTFS?
[10:02] <jmak642> has anyone messed with lightscribe?
[10:02] <RudyValencia> well, I found a third-party repository with bytecode-interpreter-enabled freetype and cairo and xft
[10:03] <gholm> josh_marshall: yeah you said it
[10:03] <astro76> RudyValencia, link?
[10:03] <Jordan_U> RudyValencia, Does it look better?
[10:03] <RudyValencia> sure
[10:03] <LukeEkblad> Jordan_U:   nvm
[10:03] <RudyValencia> I don't know about appearance yet, but I will provide a link
[10:03] <josh_marshall> gholm: Do you know if when it installed the new glx deb it automatically removed the previous one?
[10:03] <gholm> I'd use the xorg.conf from the liveCD but I can't figure out how to copy it as root into etc/X11
[10:03] <RudyValencia> http://menzonius.wordpress.com/2007/07/01/how-to-get-microsoft-truetype-fonts-in-ubuntu-704-and-make-them-look-good/
[10:04] <LukeEkblad> Jordan_U:  i was thinking of somthing elce, sorry, i'm tired
[10:04] <gholm> josh_marshall: don't know
[10:04] <gumjo> hello, for some reason my windows partition isnt mounting
[10:04] <_markt> gumjo: congratulations!
[10:04] <jmak642> _markt: haha
[10:04] <drafael_> Hey, anyone know how to figure out what the mousebuttons are called when entering in as a shortcut (beryl)? I have an extra two buttons on my mouse which I wish to assign..
[10:05] <josh_marshall> gholm: When you boot up from the live CD, you should be able to copy the live CD xorg.conf into a folder...
[10:05] <Jordan_U> !ntfs-3g | gumjo
[10:05] <ubotu> gumjo: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[10:05] <sx66> bob301: I have winxphome on a 40gb hdd, I wanted to make a partiton, when I did it re-righted the ntfs to a fat32. How do I recover windows? I have clicked the undo button a lot.
[10:05] <josh_marshall> gholm: But if it removed what you were using originally (or from the Live CD) then you'll have the same issue, I think.
[10:05] <_markt> drafael_: run xev from a terminal, then press them on the window
[10:05] <gholm> josh_marshall: yeah
[10:05] <intelikey> oops.   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38067    what i did wrong ?
[10:05] <drafael_> _markt: thanks ^^
[10:05] <jmak642> does anyone know a good primer on ext3?
[10:06] <_markt> I have no idea if beryl actually supports mouse button events, but that's how to find out the button number
[10:06] <jmak642> like what can it do? do i need to defrag ever?
[10:06] <_markt> jmak642: no
[10:06] <LukeEkblad> Are people still helping me?
[10:06] <jmak642> _markt: thats what i heard
[10:06] <Jordan_U> !defrag | jmak642
[10:06] <ubotu> jmak642: defragmentation is not needed for Ext3 and ReiserFS filesystems. They are much more efficient in their allocation of storage units.
[10:06] <gholm> maybe I should resintall X altogether
[10:06] <bob301> sx66 You told the Ubuntu installer to change the size the size of your existing NTFS partition, and to take the new space and make it FAT32?
[10:06] <jmak642> you guys got some nice robots
[10:06] <Simplechat> i've got a stupid question to ask
[10:06] <Simplechat> i've installed truecrypt
[10:07] <biotrox> i have a problem installing python-gnome2-extras
[10:07] <josh_marshall> gholm: As much as a pain as that would be, it definitely helps to wipe and start over.
[10:07] <Simplechat> it said that it installed correctly
[10:07] <Simplechat> where abouts does it install it to?
[10:07] <biotrox> this is the error that i get http://pastebin.com/d5f0c343f
[10:07] <intelikey> oops.   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38067    what did i do wrong ?       here is the dmesg http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38068       someone ?
[10:07] <LukeEkblad> Jordan_U: astro76: you guys still helping me?
[10:07] <josh_marshall> !apt
[10:07] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[10:08] <drafael_> That's odd... It shows two of my mouse buttons as being identical to two of the others (middle-click=left extra button & right click = right extra button)
[10:08] <astro76> LukeEkblad, what was the result of sudo apt-get update?
[10:08] <LukeEkblad> um
[10:08] <LukeEkblad> nothing happened
[10:08] <Zta> Can I configure Ubuntu (ie. the standard Ubuntu 7.04 installation with its standard window manager) to move windows when I hold Alt and drag the window with my right mouse button pressed?
[10:08] <Zta> I used to have this when I ran fluxbox, and I really miss it.
[10:09] <Jordan_U> LukeEkblad, No output at all?
[10:09] <biotrox> anybody..?
[10:09] <LukeEkblad> putput?
[10:09] <Zta> Instead a menu appears
[10:09] <sx66> bob301: yes, I told ubuntu installer to make the 40gb ntfs a 10gb fat32 partition, as a result it made it fat32 40gb partition. I just wanted 10gb of free space for ubuntu off of the ntfs 40gb.
[10:09] <LukeEkblad> output*
[10:09] <jmak642> !ext3
[10:09] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[10:09] <Jordan_U> Zta, That is the default
[10:09] <astro76> LukeEkblad, nothing printed in the terminal after you typed the command??
[10:09] <biotrox> neozon..?
[10:09] <biotrox> help...?
[10:09] <LukeEkblad> astro76:   yes, it did, hold on
[10:09] <Zta> ack.. I need alt + right mouse button + drag to resize!  that's what I ment.
[10:10] <vlt> Hello. I installed 7.04 on my notebook. After ~2 minutes of inactivity the creen goes black. Wheere can I set this value and how can I force it to "dpms off"?
[10:10] <jmak642> so as long as i am waiting for this rip, anyone interested in helping me with my mice?
[10:10] <vlt> screen*
[10:10] <Zta> Jordan_U, alt + left + drag i move, yes.
[10:10] <jmak642> i've got 2 usb mice from logitech
[10:10] <LukeEkblad> It just showes a bunch of options
[10:10] <darwin81> Is it not smart to split a Coaxial cable for TV and internet?
[10:10] <jmak642> one has 10 buttons, the other has 5
[10:11] <jmak642> and both work
[10:11] <astro76> vlt, System -> Preferences -> Screensaver
[10:11] <Jordan_U> LukeEkblad, The two commands that the error message says to run, did you run them?
[10:11] <zango> i have free time, what's a gui linux application i could build?
[10:11] <bob301> sx66 It sounds like the changes have already been made. your partition was removed, and a new one, with a new filesystem, have overwritten it. At this point, it sounds like you will need to use a data recovery utility or take the HDD to a local computer shop for recovery, if it is possible. Data cannot always be recovered, and rarely 100% of the data is restored when retrieval is possible.
[10:11] <DFM> darwin81:Why is that? I did and I get 14 meg down and 768 up and tv looks perfect.
[10:11] <Zta> How do I change the window manager and still keep all the desktop stuff, ie. Nautilus and friends?
[10:11] <Jordan_U> zango, Look at the Ubuntu bounties
[10:11] <jmak642> i've tried hacking my xorg.conf file according to the forum posts i see, but always i have to replace the original xorg.conf to get x to start
[10:12] <zango> Jordan_U, didn't know about that, thanks
[10:12] <LukeEkblad> he first one i run says this: luke@luke-laptop:~$ /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:12] <LukeEkblad> bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
[10:12] <LukeEkblad> luke@luke-laptop:~$
[10:12] <LukeEkblad> luke@luke-laptop:~$
[10:12] <biotrox> yuhuuuuu need help
[10:12] <Jordan_U> zango, http://www.ubuntu.com/community/developerzone/bounties np
[10:12] <biotrox> http://pastebin.com/d5f0c343f
[10:12] <josh_marshall> Did you run 'sudo apt-get update' ?
[10:12] <bob301> LukeEkblad you need to type 'sudo apt-get upgrade' in that window.
[10:12] <LukeEkblad> yes
[10:12] <intelikey> so why are you trying ot execute the sources.list file ?
[10:12] <astro76> NOT upgrade
[10:13] <bob301> err
[10:13] <naranha> is there a good free serif font which is suited for printing (similar to Times new Roman)
[10:13] <bob301> right...'sudo apt-get update'
[10:13] <josh_marshall> astro76: Sorry, type.
[10:13] <josh_marshall> astro76: typo*
[10:13] <intelikey> biotrox sources.list problem
[10:13] <astro76> LukeEkblad, type sudo apt-get update
[10:13] <sx66> bob301: how do you resize a ntfs to make a 10gb free space for ubuntu?
[10:13] <LukeEkblad> sudo apt-get update   thats what it says
[10:13] <LukeEkblad> wow
[10:13] <LukeEkblad> woops
[10:14] <LukeEkblad> W: GPG error: http://download.tuxfamily.org feisty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 576856718434D43A
[10:14] <biotrox> itelikey, how to fix this..?
[10:14] <LukeEkblad> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[10:14] <vip3rousmango> LukeEkblad: are you trying to update wine?
[10:14] <Jordan_U> LukeEkblad, Have you added extra repositories?
[10:14] <LukeEkblad> uhm
[10:14] <LukeEkblad> What?
[10:14] <LukeEkblad> i think
[10:14] <biotrox> intelikey,...... ?
[10:15] <bob301> sx66: The Ubuntu LiveCD has a graphical program that can do this for you. In fact, you seem to have gone through it once already. however, you need to be careful when choosing the options. You need to tell it to do three things: Resize the existing partition, to make it smaller. 2. Create a new partition for the unused space. 3. install Ubuntu in the new, unformatted partition.
[10:16] <jmak642> has anyone ever set up ubuntu server as an iscsi san server? is it hard?
[10:16] <LukeEkblad> Jordan_U:   yes
[10:16] <sx66> bob301, yes, how do you resize an ntfs of 40gb windows hdd to a 10 gb free space for linux?
[10:17] <chalcedony> does anyone have a kvirc for ubuntu ?
[10:17] <josh_marshall> sx66: Boot up off the LiveCD, run 'sudo gparted'...
[10:17] <Jordan_U> LukeEkblad, You need to get the pgp key for tuxfamily.org
[10:17] <josh_marshall> sx66: But DEFRAG FIRST.
[10:17] <Jordan_U> josh_marshall, gksudo
[10:17] <LukeEkblad> Jordan_U:  what?
[10:17] <vip3rousmango> Jordan_U: why gksudo gparted?
[10:18] <Jordan_U> !gksudo | vip3rousmango
[10:18] <jmak642> sx66: have you tried gparted? i'm a noob so listening to me might be a bad idea.  i used sudo apt-get gparted and it is nice for me
[10:18] <ubotu> vip3rousmango: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application>  See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo for more info
[10:18] <vip3rousmango> ahh ok. didn't know that, thanks :)
[10:18] <josh_marshall> Jordan_U: You know, I've always run sudo out of habit instead of gksudo -- I know thats correct, but I've never had any issues.
[10:18] <josh_marshall> Jordan_U: Probably if it broke more, I'd have learned it by now. :) Bad habits.
[10:18] <jmak642> sx66: but i do agree, defrag from windows first
[10:18] <EdLin> josh_marshall: sometimes that can leave behind root-privledged temporary files that mess things up.
[10:19] <Jordan_U> josh_marshall, Most times you won't but the one time you will will keep you from being able to log in again
[10:19] <q_a_z_steve> Just a quick question, can I make it so the user cannot highlight, and therefore try and select a title column, like "Better Operating Systems" in my triple boot menu?
[10:19] <josh_marshall> Jordan_U: Hahaha...
[10:19] <josh_marshall> Jordan_U: Speaking from bad experiences? :)
[10:19] <LukeEkblad> Jordan_U:   What do i do?
[10:19] <chalcedony> i want to download kvirc on ubuntu edgy, how can i do that?
[10:20] <Jordan_U> josh_marshall, No, speaking from other people's bad experiences :)
[10:20] <EdLin> josh_marshall: most online experts do. ;-)
[10:20] <intelikey> anyone know what this is ?  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38069      dmesg is at  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38070    ?
[10:21] <josh_marshall> Jordan_U: I should probably spend more time in IRC -- I've been using Ubuntu since Warty, but this is the first time I've ever spent any amount of time in here, and I've already learned that I've developed lots of bad habits -- Automatix, sudo GUI, etc...
[10:21] <intelikey> chalcedony enable the universe repository and use the package manager of your choice
[10:21] <yellow_chicken> "man 3 time" did not give me the manual for time.h?  but "man 3 ctime" give me something.  how to get manpage for time?
[10:21] <LukeEkblad> Can someone elce help me?  here's my problem http://lukeekblad.googlepages.com/grrrr
[10:21] <chalcedony> Intcom: is there a command line way to do that?
[10:21] <intelikey> chalcedony and long time no see  :)   ol'  friend  :)
[10:21] <Jordan_U> LukeEkblad, You should be able to install things again once you run sudo apt-get -f install
[10:21] <chalcedony> intelikey: *hugs* good to see yo
[10:21] <chalcedony> you
[10:22] <bob301> LukeEkblad: You may want to try backing up your existin sources.list file (just copy it and give it a new name) and then generate a new one from here: http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/ and use it to replace the old one
[10:22] <ari_stress> hi guys, my friend said that we can "activate" root account by: sudo -s ?
[10:22] <chalcedony> intelikey: i'm really not a gui user much
[10:22] <intelikey> chalcedony yes there it.    sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list    &&  sudo apt-get install kvirc
[10:22] <Jordan_U> ari_stress, That will get you a root shell, so yes, sort of
[10:22] <LukeEkblad> bob301:   ok, how odi get to my sources file?
[10:22] <chalcedony> kewl :)
[10:23] <_markt> ari_stress: sudo su -
[10:23] <Jordan_U> LukeEkblad, Have you run sudo apt-get -f install yet?
[10:23] <ari_stress> thanks Jordan_U. _markt
[10:23] <ari_stress> cool
[10:23] <intelikey> chalcedony errr need an sudo apt-get update between the two commands...   sorry.     i'm disoriented by my own issue.
[10:23] <LukeEkblad> Jordan_U:  yes
[10:23] <LukeEkblad> Jordan_U:  i duno what to do from there tho
[10:23] <bob301> LukeEkblad, you willw ant to back up the file: sudo cp -p /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_backup
[10:23] <Jordan_U> _markt, sudo -s is the "official" way, though it doesn't really matter
[10:24] <MrMist> anyone here experienced with freebob
[10:24] <MrMist> ?
[10:24] <Jordan_U> LukeEkblad, Does Add/Remove work now?
[10:24] <MrMist> I can't get it to work with my FireWire sound card
[10:24] <jmak642> well, i'm gonna leave this thing to its work and go to sleep
[10:24] <jmak642> gnight everyone
[10:24] <_markt> it doesn't matter; I'll be adding myself to wheel soon, anyway
[10:24] <LukeEkblad> Jordan_U:  nooo
[10:24] <intelikey> chalcedony that's #   sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kvirc   <<<<   sorry for the miscue on the first one.
[10:25] <Jordan_U> LukeEkblad, But sudo apt-get -f install didn't give you any errors?
[10:25] <intelikey> anyone know what this is ?  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38069      dmesg is at  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38070    ?
[10:25] <LukeEkblad> bob301:  ok, but how do i  get to my sources list?
[10:25] <Jordan_U> LukeEkblad, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:25] <LukeEkblad> Jordan_U:  i typed that in, and a bunch of stuff came up, i duno what to do from there
[10:26] <bob301> then generate a new file from the link I sent. You can then use 'gksudo /etc/apt/sources.list' and paste the data into this file, after removing the existing stuff.
[10:26] <bob301> err...yeah, what jordan_U said
[10:26] <Jordan_U> LukeEkblad, Did you say yes when it asked if you wanted to let it do whatever it wants to do?
[10:26] <intelikey> bob301 !  'gksudo /etc/apt/sources.list'
[10:26] <chalcedony> intelikey: wow thanks .. discovering new stuff, i appreciate it :)
[10:27] <intelikey> chalcedony welcome.
[10:27] <bob301> intelikey...err...yeah, what jordan_U said: Jordan_U> LukeEkblad, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:27] <LukeEkblad> Jordan_U:  it never said that
[10:28] <Jordan_U> LukeEkblad, Can you pastebin what it did say?
[10:28] <josh_marshall> So, is there any sort of official movement to the sources.list.d?
[10:28] <josh_marshall> Or is that just for convenience?
[10:28] <LukeEkblad> bob301:   So, i just deleat everthing in that folder and replace it with the code i got from that website?
[10:28] <josh_marshall> !!
[10:29] <intelikey> so let me try this one more time.      anyone know what this is ?  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38069      dmesg is at  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38070    ?
[10:29] <chalcedony> intelikey: that last command string you gave me, with the # doesn't seem to be doing anything?
[10:29] <Jordan_U> LukeEkblad, Move, never delete important config files :)
[10:29] <LukeEkblad> Jordan_U:  ok, whats the paistbin url again?
[10:29] <Jordan_U> !paste > LukeEkblad
[10:30] <intelikey> chalcedony it doesn't contain #    that was just to  denote the beginning of the string.    # is a comment marker to the shell   i.e. do nothing after this #  :)
[10:30] <LukeEkblad> Jordan_U:  but replace them?
[10:30] <astro76> I wonder if you can get ubotu's msg without a registered ick
[10:30] <astro76> !paste | LukeEkblad
[10:30] <ubotu> LukeEkblad: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:30] <chalcedony> intelikey: oh!
[10:30] <intelikey> :)
[10:31] <Jordan_U> LukeEkblad, Move the old config, put the new one in its place
[10:31] <Jordan_U> astro76, Yes, it only doesn't work the other way around
[10:31] <LukeEkblad> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29453/
[10:31] <astro76> oh, nice
[10:31] <Jordan_U> astro76, And I think that ubotu is set to unfiltered on anyways
[10:32] <Jordan_U> LukeEkblad, sudo apt-get -f install
[10:32] <chalcedony> intelikey: i get a list of urls ?
[10:32] <Jordan_U> LukeEkblad, You forgot the "install"
[10:32] <gypsymauro> hi, there are binaries images of kernel with vserver patch applied for feisty?
[10:33] <Jordan_U> LukeEkblad, Don't do anything with your sources.list until you have actually run the two commands the error told you too
[10:33] <intelikey> chalcedony yes on the first line with   deb *     at the end of the line with main restricted   add  'universe' as a single word     save and exit
[10:33] <LukeEkblad> Jordan_U:
[10:33] <LukeEkblad> Jordan_U:  what ones?
[10:33] <ajimenez> ke pasa
[10:33] <Jordan_U> LukeEkblad, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install
[10:33] <Jordan_U> LukeEkblad, You ran sudo apt-get -f
[10:34] <Jordan_U> LukeEkblad, Read carefully
[10:34] <LukeEkblad> k
[10:34] <intelikey> or popy and caste
[10:34] <ajimenez> I'm Not inglis
[10:34] <intelikey> !es | ajimenez
[10:34] <ubotu> ajimenez: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:35] <chalcedony> intelikey: this one?:  deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted multiverse
[10:35] <intelikey> yes
[10:35] <intelikey> chalcedony yes
[10:35] <chalcedony> ok
[10:35] <LukeEkblad> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install
[10:35] <LukeEkblad> woops
[10:35] <ajimenez> como te llamas
[10:35] <towlieba> has anyone here run ubuntu under vmware fusion ?
[10:35] <LukeEkblad> ttp://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/universe Sources
[10:35] <LukeEkblad> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/multiverse Packages
[10:35] <LukeEkblad> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/multiverse Sources
[10:35] <LukeEkblad> 99% [Waiting for headers] 
[10:35] <LukeEkblad> 99% [Waiting for headers] 
[10:35] <LukeEkblad> Thats what it says
[10:35] <Jordan_U> !paste | LukeEkblad
[10:35] <ubotu> LukeEkblad: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:35] <_markt> LukeEkblad: that's because the servers are down; just wait a while and try again
[10:36] <chalcedony> intelikey: done
[10:36] <random1> oh
[10:36] <random1> oh
[10:36] <LukeEkblad> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29454/
[10:36] <random1> So I've got a dumb question
[10:37] <Simplechat> i think i have a dumber question
[10:37] <random1> can you use a gui on a server?  or just on the desktop?
[10:37] <random1> =(
[10:37] <intelikey> chalcedony if it gives errors fetching,  note the message  """_markt> LukeEkblad: that's because the servers are down; just wait a while and try again"""    <<< could be the cause.
[10:37] <Simplechat> ok then, mines slightly less dumb
[10:37] <hatter> is it ok to put entries in the fstab as per the old method ?  now UUID is used,  for some reason /dev/sdb1 is not being mounted at boot
[10:37] <Simplechat> how do you use a device?
[10:37] <Simplechat> i've mapped a truecrypt drive, its /dev/mapper/truecrypt0
[10:37] <Simplechat> but how exactly to i use that?
[10:37] <LukeEkblad> Crap, its 1:37 here and i'm soooooooooooo tired Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.ghjkhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[10:37] <Jordan_U> hatter, Yes, you can still use device names
[10:38] <random1> So is that a yes?
[10:38] <Simplechat> yes, you can use gnome/kde on a server
[10:38] <Simplechat> iirc
[10:38] <Simplechat> :(
[10:38] <bobsomebody> crap its 4:37am here, im so wired....
[10:38] <Jordan_U> LukeEkblad, Go to sleep, the servers will probably be back when you wake up
[10:38] <random1> Okay
[10:38] <random1> So then
[10:38] <Simplechat> any ideas on where i would find info on devices?
[10:39] <LukeEkblad> Jordan_U:   so, what do i do when i wake up?
[10:39] <Jordan_U> LukeEkblad, Run the commands that the error tells you to run
[10:39] <random1> How would I put kde on that machine? =/
[10:39] <hatter> I Jordan_U , thx
[10:39] <chalcedony> well.. it's getting kvirc
[10:39] <Jordan_U> random1, install kubuntu-desktop
[10:39] <LukeEkblad> Jordan_U:  ok, and that willfix it?
[10:39] <Jordan_U> LukeEkblad, It should
[10:40] <astro76> Simplechat, lshw
[10:40] <bob301> random1: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop  (sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop)
[10:40] <LukeEkblad> ok
[10:40] <Simplechat> lshw?
[10:40] <LukeEkblad> Jordan_U:  thanks alot
[10:40] <Sontax`lap> hey
[10:40] <Jordan_U> LukeEkblad, np
[10:40] <Sontax`lap> can some 1 help me here ?
[10:40] <Sontax`lap> i have an problem
[10:40] <vip3rousmango> Sontax`lap: just ask the question
[10:40] <bobsomebody> usually the problem first
[10:40] <Jordan_U> Sontax`lap, Just ask, if anyone can help they will
[10:40] <bobsomebody> then ask
[10:40] <Simplechat> ok, its /mnt
[10:40] <LukeEkblad> I think..i'm um.. Sleep
[10:41] <Simplechat> can i symlink that to /home?
[10:41] <random1> Okay
[10:41] <random1> So that would have worked if the intenrt was configured I guess?
[10:41] <LukeEkblad> Goonight all you penguins, sweet dreamszzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[10:41] <random1> Which was my other problem.
[10:41] <_markt> I'm not a penguin, you're a turkey
[10:42] <Keefu> I agree.
[10:42] <astro76> Simplechat, you could make a symlink in /home or /home/user, not /home directly
[10:42] <bob301> !ask
[10:42] <LukeEkblad> What r u then?
[10:42] <Simplechat> astro, i'm thinking /home/tc
[10:42] <Simplechat> but i'm wondering how to make the link itself
[10:42] <bobsomebody> i simply am
[10:42] <Simplechat> symlink doesn't seem to work
[10:42] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:42] <LukeEkblad> Wtever
[10:42] <random1> So how does one configure the internet in this? =/
[10:42] <Sontax`lap> i wanna connect with quakenet but it says something with an e-mail adres which im not
[10:42] <Sontax`lap> i have just installed xchat
[10:42] <Sontax`lap> * Connect with your real username, in lowercase.
[10:42] <Sontax`lap> * If your mail address were foo@bar.com, your username would be foo.
[10:42] <Sontax`lap> * Closing Link: Sontax`lap by underworld2.no.quakenet.org (USER: Bad username)
[10:42] <Sontax`lap> * Disconnected (Remote host closed socket).
[10:42] <astro76> ln -s /mnt /home/tc
[10:42] <astro76> Simplechat, ln -s /mnt /home/tc
[10:43] <Simplechat> ok
[10:43] <LukeEkblad> I'm gana caatch tuf Zeeeeees  :-/
[10:43] <Simplechat> now if i wanted to make this into a script
[10:43] <Simplechat> i would make a file with the mount command and the ln, (will the link survive restart?)
[10:43] <towlieba> when i do fglrxinfo it says Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". ive  search for this error in google but i dont understand how to fix it. can anyone help me out
[10:43] <Simplechat> make it .sh, chmod +x it, and then set it up to run from the dashboard?
[10:43] <bobsomebody> lol, my gf was on my linux desktop yesterday, so i started espeaking through the ssh i had to it from my laptop
[10:44] <jonta> bobsomebody: :)
[10:44] <astro76> Simplechat, the link will remain
[10:44] <bobsomebody> shes like "baby, you computer just said 'self destruct sequence initiated' and its counting down from 20"
[10:44] <ant30> Has somebody installed the Oracle client on Ubuntu Feisty?
[10:44] <jonta> bobsomebody: ;DD
[10:44] <astro76> Simplechat, make the first line #!/bin/bash
[10:44] <Jordan_U> bobsomebody, I did that with say on my sister's mac, she caught on though :)\
[10:44] <bobsomebody> i laughed so hard i pissed myself
[10:44] <Sontax`lap> lol
[10:44] <bobsomebody> she was hook line and sinker
[10:45] <Simplechat> astro, once the device is dismounted, what will happen to the link?
[10:45] <bobsomebody> she thought it was some security shit i rigged
[10:45] <astro76> Simplechat, it doesn't have to have .sh
[10:45] <Simplechat> will it simply not work?
[10:45] <Simplechat> ah, ok
[10:45] <DBLue> Hi, i installed Python 2.5 version, and then i got message broken packages, 500 packages are now corupted, what to do with Pytnon?
[10:45] <predaeus> !offtopic
[10:45] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:45] <Jordan_U> bobsomebody, You are supposed to have it ask her questions then respond to her answers, that is what really freaks people out :)
[10:45] <astro76> Simplechat, it will navigate to the empty /mnt directory
[10:45] <bobsomebody> Jordan_U, i did that for a bit
[10:45] <bobsomebody> Jordan_U, it talks anyways, so she didnt catch it at first
[10:46] <DBLue> Please help
[10:46] <jonta> Jordan_U: how would you know what she answered
[10:46] <bobsomebody> Jordan_U, i have a tail | espeak on my log files :)
[10:46] <_markt> man, what in the world are those things?
[10:46] <vip3rousmango> bobsomebody: if you have a pc/mac you can get a fake blue-screen of death screensaver, takes the info off the comp its installed on.. looks flawless. Made by Sysinternals. Fooled a whole bunch of NT Developers at my friends workplace.. one of the guys almost cryed
[10:46] <Jordan_U> jonta, microphone, or just hearing if she is only in the other room
[10:47] <pipix> ciao
[10:47] <pipix> !list
[10:47] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:47] <bobsomebody> vip3rousmango, eh, been there done that, i have other windows toys, like a CD-Rom remote eject
[10:47] <Simplechat> uh
[10:47] <predaeus> !offtopic
[10:47] <Simplechat> this is wierd
[10:47] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:47] <Simplechat> i dismount the drive
[10:47] <Simplechat> but the files remain in /mnt
[10:47] <jonta> Jordan_U: i was thinking how to get the sound frn the mic remote to another computer :)
[10:47] <_markt> Simplechat: then you probably copied them while the drive wasn't mounted
[10:48] <DBLue> Hey, help me with teh Python!
[10:48] <bobsomebody> Simplechat, like you can see them all? or just the root?
[10:48] <Simplechat> i see everything i added to the drive
[10:48] <Simplechat> while the drive was mounted
[10:48] <Jordan_U> jonta, arecord piped to your computer piped to aplay :)
[10:48] <vip3rousmango> bobsomebody: ahaha yeah, that is jokes. "Place coffee here.." | Theres also the simple screenshot of dsktop, disable icons, set screenshot as new desktop bkgrnd.
[10:48] <astro76> Simplechat, sounds like it wasn't mounted/working
[10:48] <bobsomebody> Simplechat, just start over
[10:48] <jonta> Jordan_U: :P
[10:48] <random1> Hey
[10:48] <DBLue> Comeon i need to fix the program, so i can finnish programming my program
[10:49] <random1> Okay
[10:49] <bobsomebody> vip3rousmango, i actually have a CD-Rom (4x) rigged up for a up holder
[10:49] <Simplechat> ok
[10:49] <random1> I need to configure the internet on that machine without a gui.
[10:49] <Simplechat> i'm going to delete the fiels
[10:49] <Simplechat> *files
[10:49] <random1> Is there anyone willing to help me with the task?
[10:49] <random1> =/
[10:49] <LeiraHua> hi, i got my feisty hibernate successfully, only one problem left, the power light was when resumed from hibernate~
[10:49] <Simplechat> then try again
[10:49] <bobsomebody> i cut the plastic tray a little so it fits 44oz cups
[10:49] <towlieba> can someone please help me out
[10:49] <Jordan_U> random1, Wired?
[10:49] <towlieba> when i do fglrxinfo it says Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". ive  search for this error in google but i dont understand how to fix it. can anyone help me out
[10:49] <random1> No =/
[10:49] <random1> Wireless.
[10:49] <Jordan_U> random1, iwconfig
[10:50] <ibob63> I was trying to upgrade to Thunderbird 2 as per  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ThunderbirdNewVersion it won't start. Can anyone help?
[10:50] <predaeus> !offtopic | bobsomebody
[10:50] <ubotu> bobsomebody: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:50] <astro76> DBLue, what distro version are you running?
[10:50] <random1> Cool
[10:50] <random1> Thanks
[10:50] <DBLue> Feisty
[10:50] <bobsomebody> predaeus, awwww, u didnt need to do that
[10:50] <LeiraHua> towlieba: i got this problem too, but seems the 3d acceleration still works, at least my compiz works smoothly
[10:50] <Jordan_U> random1, sudo iwconfig < device name > essid < name of network to connect to > && sudo dhclient <device name>
[10:51] <astro76> DBLue, did you install python from the repos, i.e. sudo apt-get install python ?
[10:51] <ibob63> When I try the command mozilla-thunderbird I get the error message: run-mozilla.sh: Cannot execute /opt/thunderbird/mozilla-thunderbird-bin.
[10:51] <LeiraHua> towlieba: and glxgears got a 2xxx points
[10:51] <DBLue> astro76, i did by double-click
[10:51] <DBLue> on the package
[10:51] <Simplechat> one question, why did this happen
[10:51] <astro76> DBLue, where did you download it from then?
[10:51] <Simplechat>  rm -d -f *
[10:51] <Simplechat> rm: cannot remove `other': Is a directory
[10:51] <Simplechat> rm: cannot remove `teset': Is a directory
[10:51] <random1> I hate to sound dumber, but device name?
[10:52] <Goshawk> astro76: if i'm not wrong, python is installed by default in desktop systems
[10:52] <DBLue> i have the package on the hard disk
[10:52] <Simplechat> shouldn't -d make it remove the directory?
[10:52] <Jordan_U> Simplechat, Not if there are files in it
[10:52] <Simplechat> there shouldn't be files in them
[10:52] <Jordan_U> Simplechat, -R to remove directories recursively
[10:52] <Simplechat> ok, that worked
[10:53] <Simplechat> now t/mnt is empty
[10:53] <astro76> DBLue, well you had to get it from somewhere, Goshawk is right, it should already be installed
[10:53] <DBLue> I install another version, maybe that caused the problem, maybe i must upgrade the program?
[10:53] <Simplechat> there are no volumnes mappedf
[10:53] <Goshawk> DBLue: do you have a standard ubuntu feisty desktop system?
[10:53] <astro76> DBLue, you need to stick with packages for ubuntu feisty only, preferably from official repos
[10:53] <Goshawk> DBLue: is yes, just open a shell and type "python" you will have a python2.5 shell
[10:53] <astro76> DBLue, or expect serious breakage
[10:53] <DBLue> But what is done is done, now how can i restore the damage?
[10:54] <Simplechat> ok
[10:54] <Simplechat> truecrypt is mounted
[10:54] <Goshawk> DBLue: double click on the corrupted package (the one that you have downloaded)
[10:54] <Jordan_U> DBLue, Depends on what you installed and how
[10:54] <Goshawk> and "remove it
[10:54] <Simplechat> on /dev/mapper/truecrypt0
[10:54] <Simplechat> that is /mnt, correct?
[10:54] <random1> oh wait
[10:54] <Goshawk> DBLue: then check that the "ubuntu-desktop" package is isntalled
[10:55] <Simplechat> or else?
[10:55] <Goshawk> DBLue: and try running python from the shell
[10:55] <astro76> Simplechat, um..... you would mount /dev/mapper/truecrypt0 on /mnt
[10:55] <DBLue> Hello
[10:55] <_markt> why does ls list all of my files in one column?
[10:55] <Simplechat> how do you map that?
[10:55] <Goshawk> DBLue: hello?
[10:55] <Simplechat> mount?
[10:56] <_markt> oh, there are some really long ones at the top (off the page)
[10:57] <astro76> Simplechat, yes mount, I have no idea how to do it with truecrypt though
[10:57] <astro76> have yet to try that
[10:57] <DBLue> Yes i selected the package, and synaptic says, you have to remove other packages, that packages are all packets that depend on Python, half Linux
[10:57] <Simplechat> hmmm.
[10:57] <Simplechat> its a normal device tho (or appears to be)
[10:57] <Simplechat> mount /mountpoint?
[10:57] <Goshawk> DBLue: ok don't do it
[10:57] <Simplechat> its not in fstab
[10:57] <DBLue> I know
[10:58] <Simplechat> mount: can't find /dev/mapper/truecrypt0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[10:58] <DBLue> From the cd, is there i way to restore the default packages
[10:58] <_markt> Simplechat: did you give it a mount point?
[10:58] <Simplechat> ?
[10:58] <_markt> actually, never mind
[10:58] <_markt> it's 2am  8)
[10:58] <Simplechat> when i "mounted" the tc partition, it gave me that device
[10:59] <random1> Kickass
[10:59] <Simplechat> and then i'm trying to mount it from that device
[10:59] <_markt> well, now to find out if removing /etc/rc5.d/S13gdm is the dumbest thing I've done in a while
[10:59] <Simplechat> does that make sense?
[10:59] <DBLue> Goshawk, can i use the Ubuntu Feisty Fawn cd to get the default packages?
[10:59] <random1> Using neighbors wireless to download things
[11:00] <random1> Since I have no idea how to get to my own network. =D
[11:00] <random1> KICKASS!
[11:00] <random1> Thanks btw.
[11:00] <DBLue> Goshawk, please help me?
[11:01] <Simplechat> so how would i mount the volume?
[11:01] <_markt> dang, it still came up
[11:01] <astro76> DBLue, try dpkg --remove
[11:01] <DBLue> I did
[11:01] <astro76> DBLue, for the python package
[11:01] <DBLue> Same thing, you have to remove other packets
[11:02] <Simplechat> what type would it be?
[11:02] <Simplechat> for mounting?
[11:02] <DBLue> Yes for Python package
[11:02] <predaeus> Simplechat, try "sudo mkdir /mnt/mycrypt" "sudo mount /dev/mapper/truecrypt0 /mnt/mycrypt" and see what it says
[11:03] <_Carlo_> hi, why there is no apache2 mod security for ubuntu feisty?
[11:03] <DBLue> astro76 do you have any other suggestions?
[11:03] <predaeus> Simplechat, but mind that I am not familiar with truecrypt setup.
[11:03] <Simplechat> mount: mount point /mnt/mycrypt does not exist
[11:03] <Simplechat> ah, sorry
[11:03] <predaeus> just chose the name you want
[11:04] <astro76> DBLue, dpkg --remove --force-depends
[11:04] <Simplechat> ok this seems to be working
[11:04] <neenaoffline> can I use matchbox on the desktop at all ?
[11:04] <astro76> DBLue, that will remove it without removing the other packages, which is dangerous
[11:04] <DBLue> Then i will install Python again
[11:05] <astro76> DBLue, yes
[11:05] <DBLue> But which version was the deafault
[11:05] <astro76> DBLue, what do you mean?
[11:05] <Simplechat> ok
[11:05] <Simplechat> predaeus,  it worked
[11:06] <Simplechat> but i (as my user) currently have no rights to it
[11:06] <DBLue> I mean with the Feisty what version comes
[11:06] <Simplechat> i chmodded it 777
[11:06] <astro76> DBLue, 2.5.1
[11:06] <Simplechat> after doing the symlink
[11:06] <Simplechat> ln -s /mnt /home/tc
[11:06] <dvm> I want to print a file from 25th line to till the EOF. How can i use the "head" or "tail" or similar commands?
[11:06] <Simplechat> actually, one sec
[11:06] <astro76> DBLue, to be exact 2.5.1~rc1-0ubuntu3
[11:06] <Simplechat> how do you unsymlink?
[11:07] <astro76> !info python
[11:07] <ubotu> python: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.5.1-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 137 kB, installed size 600 kB
[11:07] <DBLue> astro76, thanks.
[11:07] <predaeus> Simplechat, just remove the symlink
[11:07] <Nuktar> hello
[11:07] <josh_marshall> So what's everyone's take on Ubuntu Mobile vs. things like OpenMoko and Gnome Mobile?
[11:07] <josh_marshall> Or is there another channel for that?
[11:08] <Simplechat> predaeus, rm?
[11:08] <SlimeyPete> #ubuntu-offtopic  is for that kind of discussion
[11:08] <predaeus> Simplechat, yes
[11:08] <SlimeyPete> thisis a support channel :)
[11:08] <Simplechat> ok, thanks :)
[11:08] <Simplechat> ln: `/mnt/mycrypt': hard link not allowed for directory
[11:09] <predaeus> Simplechat, you forgot the -s
[11:09] <predaeus> option
[11:09] <Nuktar> helP! how can I update to gutsy gibbon?
[11:09] <Simplechat> ok
[11:09] <Nuktar> ... from feisty fawn
[11:09] <CaptainM> Nuktar, there are a couple of ways. But you know that gutsy will crash right?
[11:09] <predaeus> Simplechat, read "man ln" and also the manpages for other commands. like "man mount" "man rm" ....
[11:10] <Simplechat> ok :)
[11:10] <Nuktar> no problem for me, i install ubuntu dozens of times a month!
[11:10] <Nuktar> I just wanna try it
[11:10] <Simplechat> they are rather hard to use tho
[11:10] <BlueD> How to get the packages from the Feisty Fawn cd?
[11:10] <Simplechat> and i've still got my problem with access
[11:11] <Simplechat> brb
[11:12] <CaptainM> Nuktar, ok ;) you can change alll the entry's saying feisty to gutsy in /etc/apt/sources.list, you can do a clean install of gutsy or you can do apt-get dist-ufrade
[11:12] <CaptainM> upgrade
[11:13] <Nuktar> ok. thanks ill try now
[11:13] <LeiraHua> hi, i got my feisty hibernate successfully, only one problem left, the power light was when resumed from hibernate~
[11:13] <LeiraHua> hi, i got my feisty hibernate successfully, only one problem left, the power light was off when resumed from hibernate~
[11:14] <LeiraHua> it's strange to see a running system  with power light off~
[11:14] <BlueD> How the hibernate work in Ubuntu?
[11:15] <Jordan_U> BlueD, Depends on the hardware, it works perfectly for me
[11:15] <LeiraHua> BlueD: fine to me, excpet the power light~
[11:17] <BlueD> But, when i hibernate my pc, then on next boot there is lines of text that say's falled and some commands.
[11:17] <BlueD> And then blank screen
[11:19] <random1> gnight thanks for the help
[11:19] <random1> I will probably be back tomorrow =d
[11:19] <random1> =D
[11:20] <rjb> hi, after enabling my bcm43xx wifi card, i'm getting a steady stream of ' APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)' in my logs
[11:20] <rjb> about one per second or so
[11:20] <PG> hi, how do i mount the other hdds from the begining
[11:20] <rjb> how do i get rid of that (and should i be worried)?
[11:21] <LeiraHua> PG: u can edit /etc/fstab file
[11:21] <PG> how do i edit it
[11:21] <LeiraHua> sudo gedit /etc/fstab , it's format is very easy~
[11:22] <LeiraHua> or u can "man fstab" to read more~
[11:22] <BlueD> Why there aren't any drivers for intel 537 modem for 2.6.0.15 kernel?
[11:22] <PG> LeiryHua: what must be written
[11:23] <_markt> why are you using an ancient kernel?
[11:24] <BlueD> Who me?
[11:24] <defrysk> 2.6.0.15 kernel?
[11:24] <defrysk> very old
[11:24] <PG> in my fstab it is that : # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[11:24] <PG> #
[11:24] <PG> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[11:24] <PG> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[11:24] <PG> # /dev/hdb1
[11:24] <PG> UUID=d5eaf56b-5fe0-47dc-8f94-8b0fb7a68dea /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[11:24] <_markt> if not nonexistent
[11:24] <PG> # /dev/hdb5
[11:24] <PG> UUID=c460fc93-60d2-4c83-a226-83a195c5d2f4 none            swap    sw              0       0
[11:24] <PG> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[11:24] <PG> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[11:24] <BlueD> wait, it is the default Feisty Kernel
[11:24] <_markt> oh dear
[11:24] <defrysk> must be a russian make ;p
[11:25] <_markt> BlueD: there's probably not a 0 in it
[11:25] <_markt> then it's merely "old"
[11:25] <maherr> ola
[11:26] <PG> no help??????????
[11:26] <LeiraHua> PG: kind of: /dev/hdb /mnt/hdb ext3 default 0 0
[11:26] <_markt> man, I'm confused; I can run startx from the tty, but I get "X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting." when I run "startx -- :1" from inside it
[11:26] <PG> LeiraHua: that is the thing that i must write in this fstab
[11:27] <LeiraHua> PG: yes~
[11:27] <LeiraHua> PG: as u just pasted, there r 6 parts: # <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
[11:27] <PG> i am scary. what is when it crash and my system is broken
[11:28] <bomnb>  hi how can i hide direcrory from user in my proftpd server?
[11:28] <rjb> ok, is there a better channel to ask about that APIC error shit?
[11:28] <LeiraHua> PG: first u should know your new hd's device name, it may be /dev/hda1
[11:28] <askand> I have problems with my new canon pixma mp510...ubuntu prints on only 1/4 of the paper?
[11:28] <xtreon> Need help! I want to record Mp3 as audio cd and somehow I can't do that in K3b anymore? Do I need a new codec or something? please!
[11:28] <LeiraHua> PG: no, it won't crash your system, it just cannot mount your new HD
[11:29] <_markt> lol
[11:29] <LeiraHua> PG: second, your should create a mount point for your HD, /mnt/hdb for example~
[11:29] <PG> LeiraHua: 1. Do you are a girl. 2. does it exist a another esealy try.
[11:30] <Simplechat> hmmm.
[11:30] <PG> LeiraHua: iam to silly for thaht^^ sorry
[11:30] <LeiraHua> PG: ... 1. no.  2. maybe there is a GUI tool, but i don't know~
[11:30] <Simplechat> i'm going to restart and hope that it can destroy the device this time
[11:30] <PG> but thanks a lot
[11:30] <PG> for the good help^^
[11:30] <LeiraHua> PG: ... well, it's OK~
[11:30] <SkorpKing> PG: after you changed the fstab file you can test it by typing 'sudo mount /mnt/hdb' it will give an error if something is wrong.
[11:32] <PG> does it change because i have splitt my hdd into three ones
[11:32] <xtreon> please? what do I need to record mp3 as an audio cd whit k3b??
[11:32] <_markt> why does my user have sbin stuff in his path?
[11:33] <LeiraHua> PG: then u should add 3 new entries in fstab
[11:33] <PG> aha
[11:34] <Perun> is there somewhere a repository with current kernels for feisty? (2.6.22 at the time)
[11:34] <BlueD> How to add to grub a picture?
[11:34] <Frogzoo> !grubsplash
[11:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grubsplash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:35] <BlueD> Who is the best DVD player program for Ubuntu?
[11:35] <defrysk> Perun, nope and if there is its not supported
[11:35] <_markt> I'd say xine
[11:35] <defrysk> !info gxine
[11:35] <ubotu> gxine: the xine video player, GTK+/Gnome user interface. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.11-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 278 kB, installed size 1300 kB
[11:36] <Perun> defrysk:  :/
[11:37] <SkorpKing> BlueD: ever tried vlc? plays anything.
[11:37] <BlueD> where to get it?
[11:37] <Simplechat> hey
[11:37] <BlueD> Does it support DVD menus?
[11:37] <Simplechat> does mount need to be root?
[11:37] <SkorpKing> !vlc
[11:37] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[11:38] <Simplechat> how do i let a normal user have rights to a mounted volume?
[11:38] <SkorpKing> BlueD: www.videolan.org or sudo aptitude install vlc
[11:38] <Simplechat> only root can mount
[11:39] <Zta> metacity is the default windowmanager?
[11:39] <SkorpKing> Simplechat: add the 'user' option in fstab
[11:39] <CaptainM> Zta, in gnome, yes
[11:39] <Simplechat> ok
[11:39] <Simplechat> i'll google that now
[11:39] <Zta> Where can I replace that with fluxbox?
[11:39] <_markt> hey, a fan!
[11:39] <Zta> I _only_ want to change the wm
[11:40] <Zta> ln -s /usr/bin/fluxbox /usr/bin/metacity  ?  =)
[11:41] <PG> its says i dont have mpoint
[11:41] <CaptainM> Zta, sudo aptitude install fluxbox
[11:42] <PG> its shit but i dont have nervs for the mount problems thanks
[11:42] <DBLue> What is it?
[11:42] <_markt> Zta: good idea, lol  8)
[11:42] <askand> Can someone recoomend a good scanningprogram for ubuntu?
[11:42] <PG> i have a another problem
[11:42] <PG> everytime when i will update beagle it comes a error
[11:43] <krokoach> can a guest account NOT have a passowrd?
[11:43] <PG> i copy it
[11:43] <lixus> I am using dapper but I installed some edgy packages. How can I  downgrade my system to dapper again ? Is there a way to verify that there are no packages installed newer than dapper ?
[11:43] <PG> Here is my beagle update problem :   E: /var/cache/apt/archives/beagle_0.2.17-schmidtke1_i386.deb: Versuche, /usr/lib/libbeagle.so.0.0.0 zu berschreiben, welches auch in Paket libbeagle0 ist
[11:44] <lixus> askand: xsane
[11:45] <PG> its says that it will copy the new one above the old one but what happnes
[11:45] <ancient1> Hi. I need to teach FireFox to open "irc://irc..." link
[11:45] <DBLue> What packages do i need for vlc, i mean if i download all depends, i could download some that comes with the Ubuntu, now which packages i have to download?
[11:45] <PG> download all vlcs
[11:46] <PG> its the best solution
[11:46] <ancient1> DBLue: Synaptic should take care of that
[11:46] <DBLue> but the lib
[11:46] <PG> DBlue: Downloade it in synaptic
[11:47] <jatt> DBLue: sudo apt-get install vlc
[11:47] <ancient1> DBLue:  did for me
[11:47] <DBLue> Yes, i don't have modem drivers for Ubuntu
[11:47] <ancient1> DBLue:  or use automatix2
[11:47] <askand> lixus: doesnt seem to find my scanner..
[11:47] <jatt> !automatix
[11:47] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[11:47] <PG> DBlue: click only on vlc and the other things installed (inlcude, libs and codecs i hope)
[11:47] <jatt> -----> don't use automatix
[11:47] <lixus> askand: RTFM
[11:48] <ancient1> www.getautomatix.com or so
[11:48] <PG> what about my beagle update problem
[11:48] <jatt> no, automatix is bad
[11:48] <lixus> askand: sane-utils contains sane-find-scanner
[11:48] <ancient1> than easyubuntu ?
[11:48] <josh_marshall> !automatix
[11:48] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[11:48] <PG> why is automatix bad????????
[11:49] <josh_marshall> !easyubuntu
[11:49] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[11:49] <defrysk> !worksforme | PG
[11:49] <ubotu> PG: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[11:49] <Frogzoo> keyring manager doesn't show any keyrings - how do you import them?
[11:49] <ancient1> Hi. I need to teach FireFox to open "irc://irc..." link
[11:49] <skankarar> HI GUYZ
[11:49] <ancient1> Hi. I need to teach FireFox to open "irc://irc..."
[11:49] <skankarar> IM AN AVID UBUNTU UNIX USER
[11:49] <skankarar> BUT
[11:49] <DBLue> Get some plugin
[11:49] <CrackRockSteady> one that doesn't know how to use a Caps lock
[11:50] <jatt> skankarar: no caps, thanks
[11:50] <ancient1> hehe
[11:50] <skankarar> IM NOT LIKING THIS MIRC CLIENT
[11:50] <PG> Ubotu: i dont understand write some easily things i speak three languages
[11:50] <jatt> skankarar: turn the caps off, thanks
[11:50] <skankarar> HOW CAN I GET MIRC 6.17 ON UBUNTU UNIX?
[11:50] <krokoach> what are the JPEG thumbnail plug in?
[11:50] <CrackRockSteady> you use wine
[11:50] <ancient1> skankarar:  see kbd setting ?
[11:50] <krokoach> I wanna see JPEG thumbnails
[11:50] <krokoach> thanks
[11:50] <skankarar> WOW IS THAT A JOKE CRACKROCK IDIOT?
[11:50] <jatt> skankarar: fix your keyboard first
[11:50] <CrackRockSteady> geez mate I'm trying to help you
[11:50] <jatt> skankarar: no, is no joke
[11:50] <skankarar> HOW IS ALCOHOL GONNA HELP ME GET A BETTER UNIX IRC MIRC CLIENT
[11:50] <Hor|zon> PG, learn english and then you'll speak 4
[11:50] <CrackRockSteady> Use Wine
[11:50] <Hor|zon> _
[11:50] <skankarar> HEY
[11:50] <CrackRockSteady> its an application
[11:51] <skankarar> YOU GUYS THINK YOU ARE SO FUNNY
[11:51] <skankarar> WELL
[11:51] <skankarar> GUESS WHAT
[11:51] <skankarar> YOU ARE
[11:51] <skankarar> NOT
[11:51] <DBLue> How can i connect to internet using my modem from wine?
[11:51] <skankarar> HA HA HA
[11:51] <skankarar> HOO HAA
[11:51] <jatt> ignore skankarkar
[11:51] <skankarar> HOO HAA
[11:51] <PG> Horzon: heheheh but it isnt funny
[11:51] <skankarar> HOO HAA
[11:51] <Frogzoo> skankarar: ok - be quiet now
[11:51] <oroboro> HEY did something just happen to the repository
[11:51] <skankarar> HOO HAA
[11:51] <jatt> could someone ban him?
[11:51] <skankarar> HOO HAA
[11:51] <skankarar> HOO HAA
[11:51] <skankarar> HOO HAA
[11:51] <skankarar> HOO HAA
[11:51] <CrackRockSteady> apt-cache search wine
[11:51] <skankarar> HOO HAA
[11:51] <jhaig> skankarar: First, turn off your caps lock.  Secondly, you should know that Wine is the name of an application.
[11:51] <skankarar> WAT DA FUK IS DAT
[11:51] <Frogzoo> jatt: yes, if he keeps it up, someone will
[11:51] <Frogzoo> !ops
[11:51] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[11:52] <skankarar> !aOP
[11:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:52] <CrackRockSteady> I think this is just troll bait
[11:52] <PG> how do i change this channel into a german channel
[11:52] <skankarar> OP ME RIGHT NOW
[11:52] <Frogzoo> skankarar: needs some help finding the door
[11:52] <kleuter> ppls, how feasable is apache 2.x with MS AD integration? is it very complex to configure?
[11:52] <skankarar> MIRC UNIX DONT HAVE A DOOR
[11:52] <ancient1> DBLue: make it use Linux connection (no dial needed)
[11:52] <skankarar> ONE FOR ME
[11:52] <skankarar> NONE FOR U
[11:52] <_markt> why is he still here?
[11:52] <oroboro> DID SOMETHING HAPPEN TO THE REPOSITORIES OR IS IT JUST ME
[11:52] <skankarar> CAUSE U FUCK UR MAMMA
[11:52] <skankarar> AHAHHA
[11:52] <jatt> don't know, normally he should be already banned
[11:52] <Hor|zon> PG, go to #ubuntu-de
[11:52] <t00na> /msg skankarar AK!!
[11:52] <t00na> /msg skankarar AK!!
[11:52] <t00na> /msg skankarar AK!!
[11:52] <t00na> /msg skankarar AK!!
[11:52] <CrackRockSteady> lol
[11:52] <skankarar> WAT DA FUK?
[11:52] <t00na> oops
[11:52] <CrackRockSteady> someone trys to spam him
[11:52] <skankarar> WATS DIS BINGIN
[11:52] <skankarar> I HEAR A PININ NOISE
[11:52] <Ilokaasu> oroboro: slow as **** ?
[11:52] <PG> horzon: thanks and ban skankrar
[11:53] <skankarar> WHOZ DOIN DAT
[11:53] <skankarar> U HAKIN ME?
[11:53] <oroboro> what?
[11:53] <skankarar> WHO DA FUK IS HAKIN ME
[11:53] <DBLue> No i need windows driver, to use with wine in order to dial to the iinternet
[11:53] <skankarar> STOP HAKIN ME RIGHT NOW
[11:53] <skankarar> IMA CAL DA FBI
[11:53] <ancient1> skankarar:  stop using whatever shit u'r using
[11:53] <Ilokaasu> oroboro: repositories...what about them ?
[11:53] <defrysk> !ops | skankarar
[11:53] <ubotu> skankarar: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[11:53] <CrackRockSteady> he took my suggestion of Wine literally
[11:53] <PG> iam call the fbi wahhhhhhhhhhh
[11:53] <jatt> "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity"
[11:53] <PG> what a crazy MotherF
[11:53] <m1r> delete his C:\ drive
[11:53] <CrackRockSteady> lol
[11:54] <ancient1> Hi. I need to teach FireFox to open "irc://irc..."  . anyone ?
[11:54] <elkbuntu> PG, please behave
[11:54] <PG> ok
[11:54] <xenouser> Don't know who you snatched the quote from, jatt, but I do know that you shouldn't have... it sucked
[11:54] <CrackRockSteady> I have a question regarding the nm applet invovling the pptp plugin for it. anybody able to give me a hand?
[11:54] <oroboro> ancient use the chatzilla add on for firefox
[11:54] <oroboro> to be able to use irc://irc...
[11:55] <ancient1> oroboro: thx , but i need seperate client
[11:55] <Hor|zon> oroboro, irc:// works fine with xchat installed
[11:55] <ancient1> its something in SwiftFox
[11:55] <m1r> ancient1 , use xchat or gaim irc client
[11:55] <ancient1> it doesn't for me ..
[11:55] <djavolo> hi
[11:56] <oroboro> ok now can someone tell me if something happened to the repositories or is it just me?
[11:56] <DBLue> How can dial the modem from wine, and use the connection on Ubuntu
[11:56] <bohdan> i have 7 400gb hard disks in a dynamic ntfs partition (roughly 2.5tb formatted) will gutsy be able to mount the dynamic spanned volume?
[11:56] <ancient1> I have just installed XChat-Gnome . but the link doesn't work
[11:56] <djavolo> help please with compiz fusion
[11:56] <ancient1> DBLue: thats something u set within the VM
[11:56] <xenouser> djavolo: I recommend the ubuntuforums.org
[11:56] <erUSUL> !effects | djavolo
[11:56] <ubotu> djavolo: For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[11:57] <ancient1> DBLue: in VMware its a setting of the Virtual Machine u set up
[11:57] <Hor|zon> ancient1, get the real xchat not the gnome one
[11:57] <nico_> hi, does ubuntu support installing .rpm's ?
[11:57] <m1r> vsftpd problem: mount --bind /var/www /home/ivan/h15 dont work after restart, any tips ?
[11:57] <jatt> nico_: yes
[11:57] <oroboro> if you use alien
[11:57] <ancient1> Hor|zon: any special reason ?
[11:57] <Hor|zon> ancient1, the xchat package
[11:57] <nico_> jatt, thanx
[11:57] <Hor|zon> ancient1, gnome fucked it up
[11:57] <Hor|zon> >.>
[11:57] <ancient1> nico - NO . *.deb
[11:57] <ancient1> AFAIK ...
[11:58] <CrackRockSteady> I was having some issues getting pptp working with the network manager, but I worked out what I was doing wrong. But now I have all the test pptp connections I had setup and I can't delete them from my Network Manager Menu using nm-vpn-properties. Is any one able to tell me which configuration file NM uses to store this lis?
[11:58] <CrackRockSteady> list?
[11:58] <nico_> well, does it support RPM or not
[11:58] <jatt> you can install rpms bypassing the debian packaging system but that's not a good idea (rpm is in the repos). Better use alien to convert your rpm to deb format first.
[11:58] <ancient1> Hor|zon: I don't want any problems from a version that doesn't like Gnome
[11:58] <DBLue> What is betther Bochs or VMware
[11:58] <nico_> ok
[11:58] <Hor|zon> jatt, alien is messy too
[11:58] <erUSUL> !virtualbox | DBLue
[11:58] <ubotu> DBLue: VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[11:58] <nico_> and i can get alien with APT?
[11:58] <Hor|zon> ancient1, it likes gnome fine....it's a gtk app
[11:59] <jatt> Hor|zon: I know but sometimes there is software where only rpm is available
[11:59] <ancient1> DBLue: VMware  is good. no idea 'bout the othere
[11:59] <erUSUL> !alien | nico_
[11:59] <ubotu> nico_: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[11:59] <DBLue> Can it run windows, cause i need windows, to make some virus
[11:59] <ancient1> Hor|zon: ok. uninstalling
[11:59] <DBLue> for it
[11:59] <CrackRockSteady> I guess nobody knows then... Anyone able to point me in the right direction of were too look?
[11:59] <erUSUL> DBLue: yes
[11:59] <nico_> ok
[12:00] <oroboro> why would anyone want to help you create a virus
[12:00] <erUSUL> CrackRockSteady: ubuntuforums or the wiki
[12:00] <nico_> well perhap's there's a better way, i have the same problem as DBLue
[12:00] <xenouser> anybody know the command that allows me to check for "Direct Rendering?"
[12:00] <nico_> im trying to install a vmware kind of program
[12:00] <DBLue> I will help
[12:00] <_markt> xenouser: glxinfo?
[12:01] <nico_> aticonfig --info for ati xenouser
[12:01] <nico_> ?
[12:01] <erUSUL> xenouser: glxinfo
[12:01] <CrackRockSteady> oroboro : Havn't had much luck there mate. Is there any where I can look to see all the configuration files that an aplication installed through APT uses?
[12:01] <ancient1> There is a linux version of VMware
[12:01] <erUSUL> nico_: what program?
[12:01] <nico_> yeah but i like open source :D
[12:01] <nico_> im trying the linux version of vmware but there must be a license somewhere
[12:01] <DBLue> nico_, if u wanna make one, tell me your email, and we will make
[12:02] <DBLue> try torrents
[12:02] <erUSUL> !vmware | nico_
[12:02] <ubotu> nico_: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[12:02] <nico_> there must be a free vmware wannabe tool for linu somewhere
[12:02] <erUSUL> DBLue: no warez here please
[12:02] <ancient1> There is a FREE VMware PLAYER
[12:02] <erUSUL> nico_: virtualbox is gpl
[12:03] <ancient1> it cannot create any VM tho
[12:03] <erUSUL> !virtualbox > nico_
[12:03] <nico_> is it in the repostery's?
[12:03] <erUSUL> nico_: read the ubotu msg
[12:03] <web> hi people. we have an ubuntu server here, that often does not respond to http or samba requests. when it hangs and you PING it, it responds to the hanging http or samba request immediately. any ideas?
[12:04] <erUSUL> web: have you checked the logs for errors?? something menaingfull in /var/log/messages or /var/log/syslog ??
[12:04] <nico_> downloading virtualbox now erUSUL
[12:05] <DBLue> is it Vmplayer 113 mb
[12:05] <nico_> since i'm already running Linux, i might as well get rid of all the illegal software
[12:05] <erUSUL> nico_: good luck with it (i use qemu/kvm myself but it needs support from the cpu)
[12:05] <nico_> ok
[12:06] <web> erUSUL: moment, i check it
[12:06] <ancient1> DBLue: seems size is right
[12:07] <DBLue> But that is inposible with my internet connection
[12:07] <m1r> how to keep mounted folder after restart ?
[12:07] <polarheat> hello everyone.
[12:07] <ancient1> DBLue: ah
[12:07] <web> erUSUL: this is in /var/log/messages:
[12:07] <m1r> i used : mount --bind /var/www /home/user/h15
[12:07] <web> Jul 11 12:03:24 localhost -- MARK --
[12:07] <DBLue> 102,83 minutes
[12:08] <m1r> but after restart that is gone
[12:08] <_Iamda> hey,polarheat
[12:08] <web> the other entries are from hours ago
[12:08] <DBLue> if the connection is const.
[12:08] <ancient1> DBLue:  large files are a problem with DialUp
[12:08] <DBLue> Yes
[12:08] <DBLue> But tommorow i will add ADSL
[12:09] <ancient1> :)
[12:09] <web> m1r: put it in a shellscript that you execute on every start
[12:09] <DBLue> 512 KB/S
[12:09] <ancient1> mine is bigger :P
[12:09] <polarheat> _Iamda, cool someone replied to me. how ya don?
[12:09] <mattycoze1_> hay is there a weblog of this chat room?
[12:09] <nico_> ok sometimes linux is perthatic
[12:09] <polarheat> _Iamda, I mean, how are you doin.
[12:09] <Slump> Hello, using syslog-ng, what is the way to write a file as $TAG passed via logger -t mycustomtag ? this line does not work file("/var/log/syslog-ng/$YEAR.$MONTH.$DAY/$HOST/$TAG);
[12:10] <djavolo> Help with compiz fusion please :(((
[12:10] <_Iamda> good,you?
[12:10] <nico_> now i cant install a package because package A is missing and i cant install that because package B is missing, and i cant install package B because package A is missing
[12:10] <polarheat> question: what's a good tutorial if i want to setup a local ubuntu repository hosting both i386 and x86-64bit packages?
[12:10] <polarheat> url's please. thanks.
[12:10] <t00na> go to #compiz-fusion for such help
[12:10] <ancient1> polarheat: search ubuntu.com
[12:11] <djavolo> ok
[12:11] <ancient1> certain I saw areference to that
[12:11] <polarheat> ancient1: okay thanks.
[12:11] <LucianIndy> !||
[12:11] <ancient1> np
[12:11] <erUSUL> web: Jul 11 12:03:24 localhost -- MARK -- <<<< that's normal a mark is written to the log every 20min or so
[12:11] <LucianIndy> !operators
[12:11] <himera> hallo
[12:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about operators - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:11] <LucianIndy> where can i learn more about what ||, |, &, &&, etc are used for
[12:12] <ancient1> google for them all ?
[12:12] <erUSUL> LucianIndy: in bash (or sh) ??
[12:12] <LucianIndy> bash
[12:12] <m1r> web , any tips how to put it in shell script ?
[12:12] <_markt> || = or, && = and, | = pipe, & = nice
[12:12] <jatt> man bash
[12:12] <web> erUSUL: one of the older entries looks like this:
[12:12] <web> localhost kernel: IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling driver
[12:12] <UbuntuUser> I am running Ubuntu 6.10 Live CD and I cannot get IPv4 working on my main and only ethernet interface eth0, DHCP and static ip addresses do not work. Is there any way I can get this to work?
[12:12] <LucianIndy> i googled this' ||, |, &, && for linux' and it returned a bunch of garbage pages
[12:12] <b0ha> what is the command to reconnect internet connection?
[12:13] <erUSUL> _markt: & is for run a task in background afaics
[12:13] <_markt> LucianIndy: google "bash intro"
[12:13] <_markt> erUSUL: yes, it does that
[12:13] <LucianIndy> k, thnx
[12:13] <jatt> b0ha: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[12:13] <web> m1r: there are scripts somewhere in /etc/init.d/ that get startet on startup
[12:13] <b0ha> jatt, tnx
[12:13] <erUSUL> LucianIndy: look for advanced bash scripting guide and/or shell user guides tutorials
[12:13] <erUSUL> !cli | LucianIndy
[12:13] <ubotu> LucianIndy: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[12:14] <askand> Do I have to buy turboprint to get rid of the logo? :(:(
[12:14] <polarheat> another question: what's the name of the ubuntu package that installs the networking capability on servers? I initially installed a dapper server, i don't want to manually edit /etc/network/interfaces to change ip address.. i'd like a more cleaner way of modifying it using dpkg-reconfigure "network package".
[12:14] <UbuntuUser> How do I force my eth0 interface to use IPv4 without a reboot?
[12:14] <bolt> !bot
[12:14] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:15] <nico_> ok now ubuntu is getting on my nerves
[12:15] <mattycoze1_> hay is there a weblog of this chat room?
[12:15] <nico_> i cant get the program installed and i cant install the missing packages
[12:15] <erUSUL> mattycoze1_: yes, there is search in google
[12:15] <nico_> how stupid is that
[12:15] <mattycoze1_> how up to date is it?
[12:15] <polarheat> what's the name of the networking package on ubuntu server?
[12:16] <jatt> UbuntuUser: per default IPv4 is used. What are you using now IPv6?
[12:16] <mattycoze1_> i wanted to find somebody's screen name I was talking to today
[12:16] <erUSUL> !logs | mattycoze1_
[12:16] <ubotu> mattycoze1_: Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[12:16] <lkthomas> guys, does ubuntu support jail ?
[12:16] <UbuntuUser> polarheat: yes, it does not receive DHCP nor does static addresses work. Hardware connection is fine and router picks up the machine
[12:16] <jatt> polarheat: network-manager ?
[12:17] <ancient1> why Beagle don't find an executable I'm looking at ??
[12:17] <bolt> what's so special about the lowlatency kernel? optimized for network performance?
[12:17] <DjViper> ancient1: not indexed?
[12:18] <UbuntuUser> I think the problem might be the DHCP fails (Timesout no offers) but I don't understand why it would fail other than IPv6
[12:18] <UbuntuUser> but still why would that stop a static address from working?
[12:18] <ancient1> should be !  marked
[12:19] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[12:19] <raddy> When i suspend my computer
[12:19] <nico_> hello raddy
[12:19] <polarheat> jatt: "network-manager " is not installed... should i install it?
[12:19] <raddy> mouse is not working upon resuming
[12:19] <askand> Is there no other way to get my my printer work in "free" ubuntu than to buy a driver from turboprint for 30$?! :(
[12:19] <nico_> raddy, does it work when you reconnect the mouse?
[12:20] <mattycoze1_> erUSUL i can't find the right log
[12:20] <erUSUL> askand: check in linuxprinting.com what driver do you need for your model
[12:20] <mattycoze1_> which one is this one being logged into?
[12:20] <raddy> nico_: i didn't try
[12:20] <erUSUL> mattycoze1_: date ?
[12:20] <nico_> hm ok
[12:20] <polarheat> my own opinion only (disregard if it's stupid): they shouldn't have removed system v init tools from edgy and beyond.
[12:21] <mattycoze1_> erUSUL there's heaps of different chats
[12:21] <UbuntuUser> How do I force eth0 interface to use IPv4 instead of IPv6 without a reboot? (ubuntu 6.10 Live disc)
[12:21] <erUSUL> mattycoze1_: which date are you looking for?
[12:22] <ieee802> can i reset in some ways the options i saved with beryl manager
[12:22] <ieee802> ?
[12:22] <askand> erUSUL: from openprinting.org :(: "Only works properly with proprietary Turboprint driver ($USD37.00)"
[12:22] <ieee802> because there's something wrong
[12:22] <mattycoze1_> today's this exact chat room
[12:22] <ieee802> and when i start it it gives problems
[12:22] <ieee802> i have to reset beryl-manager / beryl configurations
[12:22] <jatt> polarheat: probably not maybe I didn't get your question correctly, you say you want some package for networking capabilities in servers, but network-manager is intended for laptops so....
[12:22] <ieee802> someone know how?
[12:22] <erUSUL> UbuntuUser: it should be able to use both
[12:23] <erUSUL> mattycoze1_: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ubuntu+1-current.html
[12:23] <polarheat> jatt: yay. my apologies. i'll try to be clearer.
[12:23] <UbuntuUser> erUSUL: what it should and what it does are different :P
[12:24] <UbuntuUser> erUSUL: DHCP and static addresses fails
[12:24] <erUSUL> mattycoze1_: wrong channel sorry; it seems that there is only till 07-10-2007
[12:24] <erUSUL> mattycoze1_: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ubuntu-2007-07-10.html
[12:24] <polarheat> jatt: i installed a dapper server and the installer program configured it using DHCP. now i want to change it from DHCP to using static networking. i can modify /etc/network/interfaces to do it but i believe there's a more "right" way to do it using "dpkg-reconfigure".
[12:25] <polarheat> jatt: now "man dpkg-reconfigure" says that i must know the name of the package i want to modify using that tool, but i didn't know which package installed the networking for ubuntu servers.
[12:26] <Slump> Hi, it is possible to create a custom facility using syslog? how?
[12:26] <ramseize> hello
[12:26] <jatt> polarheat: dpkg-reconfigure etherconf
[12:26] <jatt> "Etherconf is a debconf-based interface for configuring Ethernet devices ..."
[12:26] <erUSUL> mattycoze1_: i found this http://irc-archive.com/read/FreeNode/ubuntu/2007-07-11/0
[12:26] <ieee802> someone know where are stored beryl configurations?
[12:26] <ieee802> plz
[12:27] <polarheat> jatt: oh it's that simple? cool. i have to jot it down.
[12:27] <mattycoze1_> erUSUL yeah that looks better thanks dude for the tip off :p
[12:28] <mike__> alo
[12:28] <erUSUL> mattycoze1_: no problem
[12:28] <Honey_bee> Hello
[12:28] <mike__> hello
[12:29] <Honey_bee> has any one had any problems with todays Ubuntu updates?
[12:29] <Honey_bee> They seem to have killed Nautilus for me.
[12:29] <polarheat> jatt: what document should i read so that i can be familiar with details like these?
[12:29] <LadyBug> Honey_bee: I literally just updated two minutes ago and Nautilus works for me.
[12:30] <_markt> I have problems with today's ubuntu updates, but they're the only versions I've ever had  8)
[12:30] <Honey_bee> Hum. I can't do anything, as I can't browse any folders now. Nautilus just hangs up as soon as I try
[12:30] <Honey_bee> no error message, it just stops responding and the icons vanish off the desktop
[12:30] <_markt> never learned to use a terminal?
[12:31] <Honey_bee> I am using the terminal now :)
[12:31] <Honey_bee> but i'd quite like my desktop to work too!
[12:31] <_markt> then it seems you can do anything you want  8)
[12:31] <sung> hi
[12:31] <sung> hi
[12:31] <LadyBug> Honey_bee: Works for me, sorry.  I'm using Feisty.
[12:32] <sung> emmm
[12:32] <sung> how r u
[12:33] <sung> Honey_bee
[12:33] <sung> ok
[12:33] <sung> bye
[12:33] <polarheat> jatt: it's strange:  when i did "root@xvs302:/etc/apt# dpkg-reconfigure etherconf", i got this error message "Package `etherconf' is not installed and no info is available.
[12:33] <polarheat> Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
[12:33] <polarheat> and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
[12:33] <polarheat> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: etherconf is not installed
[12:33] <polarheat> "
[12:33] <sung> quit
[12:34] <sung> hi
[12:34] <sung> quit
[12:35] <mister> les na mpika?
[12:35] <Slump> rakeyry: nope, like /log/vhost1 /log/vhost2 changing the facility name
[12:35] <polarheat> jatt: then i did "root@xvs302:/etc/apt# apt-get install etherconf" and i got "E: Couldn't find package etherconf"
[12:35] <jatt> polarheat: that's indeed strange. I've just tested and I get the debconf screen (blue background). I am using Dapper.
[12:35] <PG> i have a bad problem everytime i change the session the screen gets black and a error say some things about the Hz
[12:35] <evo_>  /join #beryl
[12:35] <evo_> ops
[12:35] <evo_> sorry
[12:36] <mattycoze1_> shiester_miester are you here?
[12:36] <jhaig> I have installed Crossover Office on Ubuntu Feisty and now "apt-get upgrade" returns the message "The package crossover-pro needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it."  The version of cxoffice I have is quite old as my subscription ran out a while ago, so maybe it has detected that there is a new version available but I don't want it to try to upgrade it.  Is there a way to tell it to ignore this package?
[12:36] <jatt> polarheat: what does dpkg -l | grep etherconf say? Here it does say:
[12:36] <jatt> ii  etherconf 1.17-0.1 debconf interface to Ethernet device configuration
[12:37] <polarheat> jatt: mine has no output nor error message.
[12:37] <jatt> polarheat: then etherconf was not correctly installed on your system
[12:37] <abo0> hello, is orinoco wlancard driver so bad or is it just me, 80% of the time my wireless does not work ?
[12:37] <polarheat> jatt: oh ooo...
[12:37] <polarheat> jatt: i'm dead.
[12:38] <polarheat> jatt: but i can lease IP address from the DHCP server.
[12:39] <PG> how do i reconf my conf.file
[12:39] <polarheat> jatt: anyway, i'll try to troubleshoot again. thanks for your help.
[12:39] <jatt> polarheat: well probably your network configuration files are alright. etherconf just provides an interface to setup the network configuration files (the same files could be changed manually to have the same results)
[12:39] <PG> How do i RECONFIGUR MY xorg.conf
[12:40] <Michelle80xx> Really nice website vote and revenge people, feelings, faliure, the intelligent way of revenge: www.revengebay.com
[12:40] <polarheat> jatt: maybe i need to change my sources.list to that in "Unofficial Ubuntu Dapper Starter Guide" and try to install etherconf again.
[12:40] <jatt> polarheat: forgot to mention etherconf is in the universe repositories
[12:40] <polarheat> Michelle80xx: that's interesting.
[12:41] <polarheat> jatt: can you point me to a nice tutorial about setting up a local repository that serves both 32bit and 64bit packages?
[12:41] <PG> NO Helppppppppppppppp
[12:41] <Honey_bee> Anyone have any idea how I can fix Nautilus then?
[12:41] <PG>  How do i RECONFIGUR MY xorg.conf
[12:41] <polarheat> PG: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:42] <stefg> !offtopic
[12:42] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:42] <PG> thanks a lot
[12:42] <LadyBug> jhaig: you can mark it "hold in present state"  with = or H in dselect but it seems Synaptic does not have that functionality.
[12:42] <polarheat> PG: don't forget to install 3d card drivers first (ATI or NVIDIA) before doing "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg".
[12:42] <jatt> polarheat: you mean a ubuntu mirror? Sorry I don't have a clue how that could be done :)
[12:43] <Frogzoo> does gnome-keyring-manager manage any keys other than wifi atm ?
[12:43] <polarheat> jatt: yep ubuntu mirror.
[12:43] <polarheat> jatt: no problem, buddy. you've helped me a lot already. :)
[12:43] <Sevk> /set
[12:43] <Frogzoo> I'd like to have gnome-keyring-manager remember website passwords if possible?
[12:43] <Sevk> :)
[12:43] <jatt> polarheat: but I was curious and found a nice wiki page about it:
[12:43] <jatt> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors?action=show&redirect=Archive
[12:43] <feh> When I turn ubuntu on the splash/loading screen does not show up. my system remains blank until the gdm login comes on, can anyone point me to a fix?
[12:44] <berent> i have a processor which has a speed of 500MHz but its capacity is 667 MHz . how can i switch to max speed
[12:44] <feh> berent, overclock
[12:44] <berent> feh : how
[12:44] <stefg> feh: this indicates problems with the framebuffer. what video card do you have?
[12:44] <nomic> whats a good torrent client that installs well on ubuntu?
[12:44] <feh> berent,  google overclocking for your cpu
[12:44] <nomic> pls
[12:44] <feh> bittornado
[12:45] <nomic> ty feh
[12:45] <feh> np
[12:45] <CaptainM> nomic, deluge, ktorrent, azareus
[12:46] <feh> so yeah, I have no clue why Usplash isn't working
[12:46] <nomic> cool
[12:46] <feh> It has worked on every other machine I have
[12:46] <stefg> feh: uspalsh doesn't work, because your framebuffer doesn't work, i guess
[12:46] <feh> it seems that it doesn't like this dell for some reason
[12:47] <feh> i'm pretty sure that's not it
[12:47] <Ominous> how come when using network i cant copy a whole folder accross to my laptop
[12:48] <feh> Ominous, permissions maybe?
[12:48] <jatt> disk full
[12:48] <Ominous> feh: the other computer is windows so i dont think so
[12:48] <polarheat> berent: read the manual for your motherboard.
[12:49] <jhaig> LadyBug: I'm happy editing a config file.  Do you know where I need to set it?
[12:49] <polarheat> berent: you have to adjust fsb speed multiplier.
[12:50] <sheek> hello. if the mantainer of the amarok package is around I'd like to request him to build the new version 1.4.6 and put it in the repositories
[12:50] <nomic> what bit torrent client is available using apt-get?
[12:50] <nomic> pls
[12:50] <jatt> sheek: file a bug report with your request
[12:50] <feh> nomic, any of the ones mentioned
[12:50] <LucianIndy> sudo apt-get install azureus
[12:50] <defrysk> nomic, apt-cache search torrent
[12:51] <nomic> oh theres a search on it cool
[12:51] <nomic> thnx
[12:51] <feh> so um yeha, dumping usplash on this machine
[12:51] <Lounge> what are some other things we can do with the terminal besides install, irc, and updates?
[12:51] <berent> polarheat : they say it reduces life of processor
[12:52] <jatt> Lounge: you can run emacs in a terminal and program, read mail, write your documents, etc. with it
[12:52] <Lounge> awsome
[12:52] <sheek> jatt where?
[12:52] <dimon08> Lounge, almost everything)
[12:53] <jatt> !launchpad
[12:53] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[12:53] <Lounge> can we use it to stop wars?
[12:53] <raddy> 
[12:53] <polarheat> berent: if your processor's actual speed is really 667 MHz, it won't reduce it's normal life. but if your processor speed is really 500Mhz and you always run it overclocked (that is on 667MHz) it will reduce the processor lifel
[12:54] <LadyBug> jhaig: Just open "sudo dselect", browse to "Select", find your package and press = on it. It should mark the package in hold and it won't be processed.
[12:55] <berent> polarheat : what do u mean by actual speed . i got this information from sudo lshw - capacity:667MHz clock :100MHz
[12:55] <PG> waht doe it means " out of range"
[12:56] <PG> Thats says my screen when i logoff
[12:56] <Dralid> Hey, are there other visualizations besides GOOM? If so, is there a Synaptic Package to install them?
[12:57] <SlimeyPete> PG: that's a message given by your monitor, rather than your PC. It just means that it's lost the signal momentarily. Nothing to worry about unless the pictue doesn't come back.
[12:57] <askand> How do I make myself owner of an debfile?
[12:57] <berent> !lshw
[12:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lshw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:57] <SlimeyPete> askand: chown. Type "man chown" to get the manual.
[12:58] <PG> yahhhhhh thats right but i cant see anymore and i must type my name and the password blind^^ But i will logoff from gnome and go to looking glass
[12:58] <berent> also my processor width is 32bit but RAM width is 64 bit. I don;t know how it's working
[12:58] <defrysk> sudo chown <username> <file>
[12:59] <PG> SlymmyPete: How did this sh problem diapeard
[01:00] <SlimeyPete> pg: might be a graphics driver problem, perhaps.
[01:01] <PG> no i changed something in my config
[01:01] <PG> a i forgot to restart
[01:01] <SlimeyPete> ah
[01:01] <PG> i restart and i look
[01:01] <crofty> my ubuntu 6.06 machine does not the MSHOME network with a two XP laptops on this wireless network? can any1 help please
[01:01] <jhaig> LadyBug: Thanks, I've found it.  Now I see that it is marked for reinstall because it is broken (apparently).  It works, so maybe I'll just leave it, or reinstall with the tarball instead of the .deb file.
[01:03] <LucianIndy> i've noticed when i do ls -l for my Desktop directory, there were two files that ended in a tilda(~) that i did not see on my desktop via gui. what are those files?
[01:03] <LadyBug> jhaig: I'd go with the tarball route, juggling status flags with dselect is PITA, because you can hit all kind of dependency issues.
[01:03] <Glave-work> how can you see what kernel you're using?
[01:03] <nitebirdz> they tend to be backup files created by an app while the originals are being edited, LucianIndy
[01:04] <erUSUL> LucianIndy: they usually are backup files made by some text editors
[01:04] <erUSUL> Gasten: uname -a
[01:04] <nomic> somebody i have a network printer which was set up using 'cups' the printer has disappeared it no longer appears as an option .. why is this? (was ok yesterday)
[01:04] <erUSUL> Linux Varda 2.6.22-cfs-v19-dirty #3 SMP PREEMPT Mon Jul 9 12:08:15 CEST 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[01:04] <LucianIndy> nitebirdz, cool. thanks for the info. i was wondering because at one point i did have those files on my desktop by they are long gone. just wanted to know if i should or should not delete them
[01:04] <nomic> ah i know
[01:05] <nomic> the machine printer is plugged into is turned off
[01:05] <nomic> bye
[01:05] <towlieban> what program can i use to record streaming video from my web cam
[01:05] <Gasten> Glave-work: uname -a, as erUSUL said.
[01:05] <Frogzoo> anyone know a way to extract passwords from firefox?
[01:05] <towlieban> Frogzoo, if theres no master password set you can view then
[01:05] <towlieban> them
[01:06] <berent> sudo lshw - capacity:667MHz clock :100MHz
[01:06] <berent> also my processor width is 32bit but RAM width is 64 bit. I don;t know how it's working
[01:06] <dromer> can anyone here help me to set up SynCE for my Acer N10? (#synce is quite empty with no response)
[01:06] <zipper> How can i see a list of UUID for my partitions? and what should i put in my fstab to allow every user to read/write a FAT32 partition?
[01:06] <Frogzoo> towlieban: neat thanks :)
[01:07] <towlieban> what program can i use to record streaming video from my web cam
[01:08] <Frogzoo> towlieban: apt-cache search video |grep -i record
[01:08] <towlieban> thanks
[01:08] <gsuveg> re
[01:09] <gsuveg> what package part is the "lua.h " ?
[01:09] <Frogzoo> zipper: blkid
[01:10] <zipper> Frogzoo, thx... You know about the fstab issue? Right now i dont have write permission
[01:11] <LucianIndy> im using firefox and when i maximize the window the firefox screen goes completely black (would this be a compiz issue?)
[01:11] <sci3ntist> Hey there
[01:11] <sci3ntist> Guys i got a question in perl
[01:12] <stefg> LucianIndy: compiz issue, probably
[01:12] <sci3ntist> how to share an array, using threads::shared
[01:12] <sci3ntist> ?
[01:12] <SlimeyPete> sci3ntist: #perl
[01:12] <sci3ntist> yea
[01:12] <LucianIndy> stefg, thanks!
[01:12] <Frogzoo> sci3ntist: -> #perl
[01:12] <sci3ntist> yea perl
[01:12] <SlimeyPete> sci3ntist: I mean "ask your question in #perl, not here"
[01:13] <SlimeyPete> this is not a perl channel, it is for ubuntu support.
[01:13] <sci3ntist> It dosnt matter as long as all about linux and scripting
[01:13] <roachmmflhyr_> gsuveg: i believe its lua50
[01:13] <Gasten> sci3ntist: but is it about ubuntu or perl?
[01:14] <Gasten> sci3ntist: ask away.
[01:14] <manurespreader> hi 4 all where is "wine" files?
[01:14] <roachmmflhyr_> apt-get install wine
[01:14] <Ominous> ~/.wine
[01:14] <ilikec0ws> manurespreader, If youve installed they are in .wine inside your home folder
[01:14] <Gasten> manurespreader: in ~/.wine ?
[01:14] <manurespreader> Thanks for all
[01:15] <gsuveg> roachmmflhyr_: dont :(
[01:15] <sci3ntist>  i know that
[01:16] <manurespreader> maybe there is software than may install php+mysql+apache in 1 step?
[01:19] <sarthor> Hi, When i try to start /etc/init.d/shaper , so i got the message.. RTNETLINK answers: No such file or directory... help please.
[01:20] <roachmmflhyr_> manurespreader: Dapper's server cd has LAMP option in the beginning of the installation other than that I dont know of any
[01:20] <sarthor> Hi, When i try to start /etc/init.d/shaper , so i got the message.. RTNETLINK answers: No such file or directory... help please....I Read this but unable to understand ,,http://svana.org/kleptog/Packet-Shaping-HOWTO.html
[01:20] <Andy80> where can I find the Qt4 tools/designer/assistant ecc...ICONS in Ubuntu 7.04 ?
[01:21] <rhacktive> ciao
[01:23] <sarthor> Hi, When i try to start /etc/init.d/shaper , so i got the message.. RTNETLINK answers: No such file or directory... help please....I Read this but unable to understand ,,http://svana.org/kleptog/Packet-Shaping-HOWTO.html
[01:25] <berent> if cpu is 32 bit and ram is 64 bit wide is there any problem
[01:25] <PG> #ubuntu.de
[01:25] <stefg> sarthor: this is an ancient howto. Things changed a lot. Try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25911 instead
[01:26] <sarthor> stefg, thanks
[01:27] <berent> if cpu is 32 bit and ram is 64 bit wide is there any problem
[01:27] <xoRock> how to reinstall synaptic?
[01:27] <xoRock> i just update my system, and it feels slower
[01:28] <PG> helpt me, can someone tell me how do i restart the gdm without a newstart
[01:28] <PG> without a reboot
[01:28] <zipper> newstart ?
[01:28] <zipper> ah
[01:28] <zipper> PG, "/etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[01:28] <SlimeyPete> PG: press ctrl-alt-backspace. Or go to a terminal (ctrl-alt-f1) and run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm/restart")
[01:29] <PG> but then the wohole system reboot
[01:29] <zipper> ctrl-alt-backspace is generally considered bad practice
[01:29] <SlimeyPete> sorry, "gdm restart"
[01:29] <SlimeyPete> zipper: indeed, but it works ;)
[01:29] <zipper> PG, no it wont.
[01:29] <PG> ok thanks
[01:29] <SlimeyPete> PG: doing these things shouldot make your system reboot.
[01:29] <SlimeyPete> *should not
[01:29] <askand> ANyone know why i get this status on my printer: /usr/lib/cups/filter/pstocanonij failed
[01:29] <zipper> PG, ctrl+alt+backspace is _NOT_ the same as ctrl+alt+del
[01:29] <berent> if cpu is 32 bit and ram is 64 bit wide is there any problem
[01:29] <berent> if cpu is 32 bit and ram is 64 bit wide is there any problem
[01:29] <jared> I"m int he manual ubuntu partitioner...and, i have a primary partition, how do i setu p a swap?
[01:30] <zipper> berent, stop spamming, we heard you already.
[01:30] <nuno_nunes> plz help to work this sound mp3...
[01:30] <polarheat> berent: your questions are not related to ubuntu.
[01:30] <nuno_nunes> plz help
[01:30] <zipper> !mp3 > nuno_nunes
[01:30] <berent> then zip out ur answer zipper
[01:30] <zipper> berent, i dont have one.
[01:30] <berent> sad
[01:30] <nuno_nunes> download apt-get
[01:31] <roachmmflhyr_> berent: find another channel
[01:31] <nuno_nunes> plz
[01:31] <zipper> berent, if someone does, i'm sure they'll answer you if they can/have the time.
[01:31] <roachmmflhyr_> berent: try........
[01:31] <polarheat> berent: i recommend you to try to study about PC's first.
[01:31] <nuno_nunes> plz
[01:31] <roachmmflhyr_> berent:  searching http://www.google.com
[01:31] <berent> ah
[01:31] <QueenCat> I just installed Ubuntu on this machine, then I did sudo apt#get install kubuntu-desktop. Ubuntu-Install found the GForce4 and installed driver that worked perfectly... I was wondering why the NVidea splash screen didn't show up on boot, so I went in to system configuration and selected the NVidea GForce4 (Generic) which I found out doesn't work at all (max. 640x480) and now I dunno how to get the standard driver back... can someone help?
[01:31] <zipper> nuno_nunes, plz what? You've already gotten your answer.
[01:32] <polarheat> nuno_nunes: install xmms.
[01:32] <dimon08> !mp3
[01:32] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:32] <ilikec0ws> QueenCat, What standard driver? The Nvidia one or the nv open source one?
[01:32] <polarheat> nuno_nunes: install codecs.
[01:32] <polarheat> nuno_nunes: or if you want, install easyubuntu.
[01:32] <zipper> QueenCat, you can replace "nvidia" with "nv" in /etc/xorg.conf to get back your old driver.
[01:32] <ilikec0ws> zipper, /etc/X11/x
[01:32] <QueenCat> ilikeC0ws, the one that I just replaced, which I believe was nv
[01:32] <ilikec0ws> zipper, /etc/X11/xorg.conf :)
[01:33] <zipper> ilikec0ws, ah ofc, my bad
[01:33] <QueenCat> zipper, thx I'll try
[01:33] <ilikec0ws> QueenCat, Sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf ...find the nvidia driver line change whats in the @ to nv
[01:33] <ilikec0ws> QueenCat, "***
[01:33] <ilikec0ws> QueenCat, Stupid american keyboard layout :(
[01:34] <xoRock> how to reinstall synaptic?
[01:35] <QueenCat> hm, xorg.con says nv is the selected driver...
[01:35] <troopperi_> xoRock: type in console  sudo apt-get install synaptic
[01:36] <ilikec0ws> QueenCat, If you look down, You'll see lines like this Depth 24 then below it Modes with screen reoslutions inside "" like "640x480"
[01:36] <xoRock> troopperi_, thx
[01:36] <Russian> Good evening everyone :)
[01:37] <troopperi_> xoRock: np :)
[01:37] <QueenCat> ilikeC0ws, yes
[01:37] <berent> Good evening Russian
[01:37] <ilikec0ws> QueenCat, Under the depth 24, add your desired screen reolution on that modes line in the same format as the rest
[01:37] <ilikec0ws> QueenCat, So it will be Modes "YourxResolution" "640x480"
[01:39] <ilikec0ws> QueenCat, Then ctrl+x then press y when asked and enter again, then start x again
[01:39] <QueenCat> ilikec0ws the <Device> Monitor also shows modeline  "640x480@60" 25.2 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -vsync -hsync | should I change that, too?
[01:40] <ainesso> Hello, my first time here and got a question about bluefish on kubuntu feisty
[01:40] <ainesso> Is this the place to ask?
[01:40] <Russian> Is there an option in "Konversation" to turn off all these message, like when someone is leaving or joining the irc channel?
[01:40] <RGautier> yes
[01:40] <ilikec0ws> QueenCat, Never seen a line like that before, try it yeahg :)
[01:40] <RGautier> no
[01:41] <daniel_washere> Hi, how do i enable my bluetooth adapter?
[01:41] <RGautier> You might try specific product channels for specific questions
[01:41] <daniel_washere> It said it switched into 'off-mode'
[01:41] <ainesso> ok thanks
[01:41] <RGautier> that are unrelated to ubuntu itself
[01:41] <RGautier> For example #Konversation
[01:41] <zipper> QueenCat, all those numbers (beside 640x480) describe the refresh rate. It shouldn't be necessary, but i guess it couldn't hurt to have them there.
[01:41] <pyro> Hey guys, how to burn an IMG to DVD in ubuntu? I used "growisofs -Z" and it just burn te img file into the disk and didnt create the full disk
[01:41] <ainesso> it's kinda related to ubuntu
[01:41] <ainesso> related to gnome-VFS functionality.....
[01:42] <RGautier> The just ask
[01:42] <kismet> pyro, gnome has gbaker for kde there is k3b
[01:42] <RGautier> The = then
[01:42] <ilikec0ws> ainesso, Just ask away mate :)
[01:42] <zipper> QueenCat, usually the gfx card gets the needed info from the screen itself
[01:42] <pyro> gbaker doesnt do IMG does it?
[01:42] <pyro> havent used ubuntu in yrs and im on a lame LiveCD
[01:42] <warriorforgod> I have just followed a guide on the forums for freenx.  When I run the nxclient I authenticate and establish a disply just fine, however the display immediately closes.  Any suggestions?
[01:42] <ainesso> I can't edit my pages on the server with bluefish on feisty.
[01:42] <ainesso> Even though this was possible under dappet
[01:42] <ainesso> *dappet
[01:42] <ainesso> r
[01:43] <Russian> What is a good IRC client?
[01:43] <Lukemob> Is there anyone who knows squirrelmail ?
[01:43] <zipper> Russian, i like xchat
[01:43] <ilikec0ws> Russian, Xchat for GNOME, Konversation for KDE, BitchX/Irssi for terminal
[01:43] <Data_> chatzilla Russian
[01:43] <QueenCat> ilikec0ws, thank you so much... it's working again!
[01:43] <zipper> ilikec0ws, i use xchat in kde :)
[01:44] <Russian> hmm I am currently using Konversation
[01:44] <ilikec0ws> QueenCat, Good good, just download yourself the proper nvidia drivers,
[01:44] <Frogzoo> pyro: you should be able to just right click the iso & burn image
[01:44] <Russian> But I cant find the option to turn of the channel messages, when someone joins or leaves
[01:44] <ilikec0ws> !nvidia > QueenCat  Check the PM
[01:44] <pyro> frogzoo im talking about IMG
[01:44] <QueenCat> ilikec0ws, would that be the nvidia-xgl package? I wanna use beryl
[01:44] <RGautier> Russian - I use GAIM for IRC
[01:44] <pyro> apparently sometimes you can just change the extention. reckon tht'll work on Windows PE image?
[01:44] <ilikec0ws> QueenCat, You can do it through the restricted drivers manager if you want,
[01:45] <zipper> RGautier, it's called pidgin now :)
[01:45] <ilikec0ws> QueenCat, Lemme guess you made the switch for the eye candy aye? :P
[01:45] <Russian> yeah zipper what about pidgin
[01:45] <Russian> How do I install it
[01:45] <QueenCat> jupp
[01:45] <zipper> Russian, dunno, i dont use pidgin
[01:45] <Data_> QueenCat envy can do it too
[01:45] <RGautier> zipper - not on my Ubuntu install ;)
[01:45] <Russian> hmm
[01:45] <merce> ola?
[01:45] <ilikec0ws> QueenCat, Quite a few people do at first, then reliase what they were missing out on overall :P
[01:45] <zipper> RGautier, sure it is. It just means your Ubuntu installation is out-of-date
[01:45] <Russian> Anyone uses Konversation in here?
[01:45] <merce> no hay ni el tato no?
[01:46] <zipper> !es
[01:46] <QueenCat> ilikec0ws, ^^
[01:46] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:46] <merce> hay alguiem?
[01:46] <RGautier> zipper - I downloaded Feisty Fawn last month and installed it - it says GAIM - when did it change?
[01:46] <ilikec0ws> RGautier, It still is gaim by default
[01:46] <QueenCat> ilikec0ws just wan to show every once in a while...
[01:46] <gerro> I don't see system icons on desktop..
[01:47] <zipper> RGautier, dunno, its not that long ago
[01:47] <Grnsgrf> hi all
[01:47] <ilikec0ws> QueenCat, If you use ubuntu/any linux distro for a few weeks you probably wont want to be switching back
[01:47] <gerro> that is odd wonder what triggers it
[01:47] <Russian> RGautier, when you type in google Gaim, you get automatically searchresult with Pidgin
[01:47] <Grnsgrf> has anybody made experiences with a creative "zen vision m" and gnomad/kzenexplorer?
[01:48] <ilikec0ws> RGautier, You can get a 3rd party pidgin.deb I believe, but first Id try sudo apt-get install pidgin ....just check its not hidden away in the repos
[01:48] <RGautier> I use Application Add/Remove
[01:48] <ilikec0ws> RGautier, You wont find it in there :)
[01:48] <Russian> You can't find it there RGautier
[01:48] <RGautier> I already installed it - and it installed as GAIM
[01:48] <Russian> ^^
[01:48] <RGautier> I did
[01:48] <pyro> help plese, how to burn an img file in 5.04 liveCD?
[01:48] <QueenCat> ilikec0ws, I've been using Ubuntu at work, lately and must say, that I am absolutely amazed by the compability and the community sites in germany
[01:48] <Russian> RGautier: http://pidgin.im/pidgin/home/
[01:48] <Grnsgrf> my zen stucks everytime, if i try to mtp-detect, for example
[01:49] <RGautier> Dude - I already HAVE it - am using it :)
[01:49] <ilikec0ws> QueenCat, Id be more amazed by the stability/speed/reliablity :P, but the community support is something windows will never be able to compete with
[01:49] <Russian> K
[01:49] <RGautier> Don't need help installing it - I was suggesting it to you as IRC client
[01:49] <nicodrummer> ola
[01:49] <Grnsgrf> with gnomad, im able to upload mp3s, but after quitting gnomad, i must reset my zen :-/
[01:50] <ilikec0ws> !es | nicodrummer
[01:50] <ubotu> nicodrummer: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:50] <QueenCat> ilikec0ws, well i've been using linux for quite some time now (SuSE) so I'm allready used to stability
[01:50] <capiira> hmmmm hi i cant install the flash player becuase of md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz anyone know why?
[01:51] <Reivaj> .
[01:51] <Grnsgrf> capiira: bad download?
[01:51] <gnomefreak> capiira: its known problem someone will be working on it.
[01:51] <capiira> thx
[01:51] <QueenCat> ilikec0ws, nevertheless, ubuntu has become my absolut favourite linux dist right next to fli4l
[01:51] <jared> OMG I fee good, I just chunked windows and installed linux on my other pc for good
[01:51] <Reivaj> hi
[01:51] <ilikec0ws> QueenCat, Never been a fan of Suse, like distrowatch says its a bit demanding all the gui configs etc...
[01:51] <gerro> how do I force a floppy to umount?
[01:52] <ilikec0ws> capiira, There has been an update to flash player...
[01:52] <gnomefreak> capiira: flash is grabbing the linux_9_bleh.tar.gz but adobe moved the newest flash tar using the same name so our script is downloading what it thinks is the right version
[01:52] <Reivaj> hi
[01:52] <Voltazeger> hey morons
[01:52] <Russian> Reivaj: Hi
[01:52] <Reivaj> zorra tu morro
[01:52] <Russian> ?
[01:52] <capiira> ahh ok
[01:53] <Reivaj> a chiki chiki pelo pig yuey
[01:53] <gnomefreak> capiira: waiting to find out if all the showstopping regressions are gone before we make the change to the script
[01:53] <QueenCat> ilikec0ws, before ubuntu, SuSe was supposed to be the easiest distro for noobs, so that's what I got..
[01:53] <Reivaj> aspaoles
[01:53] <ilikec0ws> QueenCat, :)
[01:53] <Reivaj> espaoles
[01:53] <Russian> !spanish
[01:53] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:53] <gerro> I hate floppies they so unpredictable :(
[01:53] <QueenCat> ilikec0ws, but now I know Ubuntu ^^
[01:53] <capiira> then let me manually install it into my home dir till ubuntu fix it
[01:53] <Russian> Anyone using Compiz here ?
[01:53] <joshritger> can I log in to the computer as root?
[01:54] <ilikec0ws> Russian, ask in #ubuntu-effects :)
[01:54] <gnomefreak> !root > joshritger  (read the pm from ubotu)
[01:54] <Russian> Thanks
[01:54] <QueenCat> !root > QueenCat
[01:54] <RGautier> josh - root pass is same as first user pass
[01:55] <togr> sudo su -
[01:55] <Glave-work> I just tried updating edgy to feisty and I got this error at the end: SystemError from cache.commit(): installArchives() failed
[01:55] <joshritger> gnomefreak: I am having trouble adding stuff to the my startup items under sessions. anything I add is gone the next time i start up.
[01:55] <joshritger> RGautier: do i type root for the user then the password?
[01:56] <joshritger> I have tried that and it doesn't want to let me log in
[01:56] <gnomefreak> joshritger: that doesnt have anything to do with root. you can edit it without root.
[01:56] <pyro> hello, im on a live cd. if i uprade to dapper will i have to restart?
[01:56] <joshritger> gnomefreak: I can't seem to get the changes to stay though
[01:56] <gnomefreak> pyro: you have to install first
[01:57] <aegean> try to check "save current session"
[01:57] <pyro> im just tryin to find baker, but its not on my livecd
[01:57] <gnomefreak> joshritger: that sounds like a problem with the package that handles that. what version of ubuntu
[01:57] <gnomefreak> poygnomebake?
[01:57] <joshritger> 7.04
[01:57] <pyro> nor is it in the breezy repositries
[01:57] <gnomefreak> gnomebaker?
[01:57] <RGautier> josh - Why do you want to log in as root?
[01:57] <gerro> I'm using this command "dd if=/home/user/Desktop/boot.img of=/dev/fd0" after mounting a floppy in order to make a boot disk but it always says there is error when I umount afterwards
[01:57] <PriceChild> pyro, you know the breezy repos aren't online anymore...?
[01:57] <pyro> inded. ,y keyboard is broke on this machine, cant use many letters
[01:57] <gnomefreak> pyro: there is no package named baker
[01:58] <phpwner> how do i install acrobat reader onto my pocket pc through ubuntu?
[01:58] <RGautier> josh - use sudo instead
[01:58] <joshritger> I had this problem with beryl but when I followed some instructions i got it to work by entering somethign intoa terminal
[01:58] <pyro> lol i know i can use "g"'s
[01:58] <pyro> how do i et baker on breezy live CD
[01:59] <gnomefreak> pyro: apt-get install gnomebaker
[01:59] <pyro> erf, i have updated the repositries to dapper and usin packet manaer to download it
[01:59] <gerro> pyro PriceChild: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/
[01:59] <pyro> that seemed to work better than expected, thanks
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> gerro: dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/home/sam/floppy.image bs=2x80x18b conv=notrunc
[02:00] <gerro> Jack_Sparrow: what is difference in that command?
[02:00] <Jack_Sparrow> gerro: I found that here.. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=362506
[02:00] <Russian> What is a good music player for ubuntu?
[02:00] <gerro> Russian: totem is what I use
[02:00] <RGautier> Isn't there one installed by default, Russian?
[02:01] <RGautier> Double click an mp3 and see what pops up
[02:01] <pyro> amarok is cool
[02:01] <joshritger> gnomefreak: I had this problem with beryl when I tried to add it to start up but on the beryl help page it gave me a command to enter into a terminal to get it to work. nothing else I try to put in start up seems to work.
[02:01] <Pici> !players | Russian
[02:01] <ubotu> Russian: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[02:01] <xoRock> is there alternative other than synaptic for ubuntu 7.04?
[02:01] <Jack_Sparrow> gerro: I just woke up.. sorry if that wasnt right.. coffee will be ready i a sec and I will look it over
[02:01] <sD6> hi
[02:01] <Russian> Pici: Thanks
[02:01] <gerro> Jack_Sparrow: just little confused
[02:01] <RGautier> !codecs | RGautier
[02:02] <gnomefreak> joshritger: they might not be staying there because you may be using wrong command, or its a bug and needs to be filied if not done already
[02:02] <gerro> Jack_Sparrow: should I be root when I execute that command?
[02:02] <Jack_Sparrow> gerro: You dont want to be confused when it comes to dd... it dosent forgive a mistake
[02:02] <dvd__> hi
[02:02] <joshritger> gnomefreak: ok, do you know what the command should be to start kalarm?
[02:02] <Jack_Sparrow> gerro: yes
[02:02] <PG> hey i write i my xorg.conf the screen resolution "1280x1024" and i delet the others ike 800x600 and 640x400 but when i will change the resolution to 1280x1024, the resolution iption doest exist only 1024x768 and 800x600 and 640x400 but ive deletd them wehy thy are still alive^^hellllllllppppppppppppppp me please
[02:03] <gnomefreak> joshritger: no but maybe users in #kubuntu might ;)
[02:03] <dvd__> I have a problem with installing graphics card drivers
[02:03] <dvd__> can someone help me
[02:03] <xoRock> Jack_Sparrow, is there alternative something like synaptic?
[02:03] <askand>  ANyone know why i get this status on my printer: /usr/lib/cups/filter/pstocanonij failed
[02:03] <askand> ?
[02:03] <gnomefreak> dvd__: not without the problem being known
[02:03] <joshritger> gnomefreak: ok, I guess kalarm really isn't the best to use with gnome, but I couldnt find another alarm program
[02:03] <RGautier> PG, did you change it for all color densities?
[02:03] <dvd__> ok
[02:03] <xoRock> Jack_Sparrow, better maybe?
[02:03] <dvd__> so
[02:03] <Frogzoo> how do I start the keyring daemon?
[02:03] <PG> RGautier: Yes
[02:03] <dvd__> I have an integrated via k8m890
[02:04] <dvd__> and I am unable to get the 3d to work
[02:04] <dvd__> I have followed several guides I found on the internet with no success
[02:04] <Russian> !resolution | PG
[02:04] <ubotu> PG: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:05] <dvd__> My distribution is Ubuntu 7.04
[02:05] <aegean> help!everytime I scan my whole system ( 2 windows partitions + 2 linux partitions ) with AEGIS virus scanner it always finds a huge amount of infected .dll files on my windows partitions..Is there any case for this  to be a wrong result?
[02:05] <Russian> Windows is one big virus ^^
[02:05] <ilikec0ws> PG, Instead of trying to change it in that  dialog, change it in your xorg, then restart x using ctrl+alt+backspace :)
[02:05] <aegean> yed ...
[02:05] <aegean> i know..
[02:05] <PG> Russian: What do you mean wits resolution ive change it
[02:05] <aegean> :)
[02:05] <Jack_Sparrow> xoRock: alternative for what.. sorry but still sleepy
[02:05] <aroo> aegean: this isn't the windows support channel
[02:05] <gnomefreak> aegean: join ##windows and ask
[02:06] <togr> REINSTALL and REBOOT
[02:06] <aegean> i know arroo...im not asking about windows problems....
[02:06] <PG> IlikecWs; i did it thousend times
[02:06] <xoRock> Jack_Sparrow, package manager
[02:06] <aroo> aegean: yes you are, you just said "on my windows partition"
[02:06] <aegean> i just want to know if its a true result
[02:06] <ilikec0ws> PG, Ummmm strange...... can you pastebin your xorg.conf?
[02:06] <aroo> aegean: go to ##windows
[02:06] <ilikec0ws> !paste > PG
[02:06] <PG> ok
[02:06] <gnomefreak> aegean: infected dlls on your win partition is a windows support question
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> xoRock: I use synaptic for most everything.. why dont you like it
[02:07] <Russian> PG: you have ATI or Nvidia?
[02:07] <PG> Ati
[02:07] <Russian> Oke hold ojne
[02:07] <Russian> you have same problem I had
[02:07] <Jack_Sparrow> xoRock: a better question might be what are you having trouble doing with it
[02:07] <PG> my conf. : # /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
[02:07] <PG> #
[02:07] <PG> # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
[02:07] <PG> # values from the debconf database.
[02:07] <PG> #
[02:07] <PG> # Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf(5) manual page.
[02:07] <PG> # (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
[02:07] <PG> #
[02:07] <xoRock> just updated my ubuntu today, synaptic crashed a lot
[02:07] <aroo> !paste | PG
[02:07] <ubotu> PG: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:08] <xoRock> Jack_Sparrow,  just updated my ubuntu today, synaptic crashed a lot
[02:08] <ilikec0ws> gnomefreak, Unban him please, he simply didnt get the paste link cause i pm'd it instead of displaying
[02:08] <xoRock> Jack_Sparrow, my system is bit lagging
[02:08] <gnomefreak> ilikec0ws: hes not banned
[02:08] <Glave-work> should I be worried when upgrading from edgy to feisty and I get SystemError from cache.commit(): installArchives() failed
[02:08] <ilikec0ws> gnomefreak, Didnt read it all sorry =)
[02:09] <aegean> ok guys..i thought that understanding the way a particular software works is a matter of software engineering and NOT a windows question  I hate win anyway..
[02:09] <ilikec0ws> aegean, They are on your WINDOWS partition though
[02:09] <dvd__> HELP!!! I have a via K8M890 integrated vga and I can't get the 3d to work on Ubutu 7.04! Can someone help me?
[02:09] <aroo> aegean: do you have a specific ubuntu question?
[02:09] <Russian> PG: just execute these commands in your terminal, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29469/
[02:09] <ilikec0ws> dvd__, Compiz nor Beryl support VIA
[02:09] <Jack_Sparrow> xoRock: I have not had synaptic crash.. but I am sure that dosent help you..  HAs it crashed since you upgraded
[02:09] <pyro> ffs cant install gnomebaker on my breezy liveCD
[02:10] <ilikec0ws> aegean, making it a windows problem therefore #windows
[02:10] <pyro> nor can i get my 704 livecd to work... help
[02:10] <PG> hello
[02:10] <ilikec0ws> PG, You need to pastebin it....
[02:10] <Jack_Sparrow> pyro: what error do you get on 7.04
[02:10] <PG> i have paste it and iwas kicked
[02:10] <ilikec0ws> !paste | PG
[02:10] <ubotu> PG: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:10] <gnomefreak> PG: use pastebin
[02:10] <ilikec0ws> PG, Read that from ubotu
[02:10] <xoRock> Jack_Sparrow, yes
[02:10] <pyro> cant remember, somethin about jjb job control
[02:11] <PG> how iam a newby
[02:11] <xoRock> Jack_Sparrow, right now im reinstalling it
[02:11] <ilikec0ws> PG, Open that website, copy everything into the text box, submit, then copy us the link you get
[02:11] <Russian> PG: just execute these commands in your terminal, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29469/
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> xoRock: what is your current system/os and have you every used automatix or envy.. .. even if you have removed them completly we need to know that
[02:11] <Russian> PG: just do what I said and you'll see after you reboot your screen resolution will be 1280x1024, or you will be able to change it to that
[02:12] <invisiblepinkuni> !gobuntu
[02:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gobuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:12] <PG> thats the link
[02:12] <PG> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29470/
[02:12] <RGautier> aegean - If the virus scanner finds virii it is because it found a virus signature - doesn't matter what kind of partition they're on
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> xoRock: What version are you installing now.
[02:13] <Russian> PG: Just execute those commands and you'll be fine :)
[02:13] <xoRock> Jack_Sparrow, im reinstalling synaptic, im using feist 7.04
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> xoRock: ok
[02:13] <PG> Russian: thats the link ;http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29470/
[02:13] <invisiblepinkuni> anyone know the homepage for gobuntu?
[02:13] <gnomefreak> invisiblepinkuni: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:13] <xoRock> have you every used automatix or envy.. . --> and may i know what is that? ^^;
[02:13] <invisiblepinkuni> thanks gnomefreak
[02:14] <ilikec0ws> invisiblepinkuni, You can find it on the technology-->linux/unix seciton of digg
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> xoRock: No
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> xoRock: The long answer is they mess up your system
[02:14] <invisiblepinkuni> ilikec0ws: thanks....
[02:14] <RGautier> !repeat
[02:14] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:14] <invisiblepinkuni> ilikec0ws: i like unicorns :)
[02:14] <ilikec0ws> invisiblepinkuni, tutu tut
[02:15] <ilikec0ws> tutu = tut*
[02:15] <xoRock> Jack_Sparrow, ic
[02:15] <xoRock> Jack_Sparrow, never use both
[02:15] <PG> ilikecOws: did you have the link
[02:15] <Jack_Sparrow> xoRock: dont use either
[02:15] <pyro> anyone know how to convert and/or burn a .img file in breezy lvecd?
[02:15] <Russian> PG: You are not reading what I said
[02:16] <ilikec0ws> PG, You linked me to the commands Russian recommended you should run, and for now Id try running them
[02:16] <ilikec0ws> PG, Where are you from? maybe we can get you some local support
[02:16] <Russian> PG: Again for the fourth time, just do this : PG: just execute these commands in your terminal, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29469/
[02:16] <ilikec0ws> !de | PG
[02:16] <ubotu> PG: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:16] <PG> Russian: ah in the terminal ahhhhhhhhhh
[02:17] <Russian> PG Yes, after that restart ubuntu, and all be good
[02:17] <Jack_Sparrow> xoRock: Have you done much while/as root user?
[02:17] <dromer> anyone here with experience with Pocket PC's and syncing them on linux?
[02:18] <PG> Russian: Nothing happenz its says : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29470/
[02:18] <xoRock> Jack_Sparrow,  not for a while
[02:18] <Lukemob> Guys, please check that: http://mysql.gamesdesign.org/ --- Where could be prob?
[02:18] <PG> Russian: No such file or directory
[02:18] <erUSUL> !iso | pyro
[02:18] <ubotu> pyro: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[02:19] <erUSUL> pyro: but you need tmp disk space to do the conversion... not easy from a livecd
[02:19] <xoRock> Jack_Sparrow, is it because i installed quite many new software, graphic and video software
[02:19] <pyro> ot my hd's mounted
[02:19] <pyro> thanks
[02:19] <PG> Russian: what did i must doooo
[02:21] <dvd__> !!!HELP!!! I can't get vga drivers to work on Ubuntu 7.04 with integrated vga via k8m890, no 3d. System freezes when I try to execute  glxgears -info
[02:21] <OldPink> Hey. Thinking of buying a new laptop, 256Mb of RAM, 700-1000Mhz processor. Will the LiveCD run/install on that, or should I download the alternate installer? Aim is to install Ubuntu, see what it's like and if it's to slow just sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop - chances are it'll be fine, it's ran well on this system for almost a year now
[02:21] <chade> OldPink:  that should run ubuntu with no issue ... although more ram would be better
[02:21] <Pici> OldPink: You should be fine, you might need a bit more ram, but xubuntu would be good.
[02:21] <Jack_Sparrow> xoRock: Testing everything out there can cause problems.. make a backup of your system especially after a fresh install so you can quickly restore it if needed.
[02:22] <PG> And i forgot to say but i came a message : would you like to set the settings gnome like or system.
[02:22] <PG> i decided system
[02:22] <xoRock> Jack_Sparrow, how do i make backup? is it something like imaging partition?
[02:22] <chade> Is the openoffice.org updates coming down at a crawl speed for anyone else ?
[02:22] <Frogzoo> OldPink: really consider getting 1gig ram
[02:22] <Russian> PG Hold on
[02:22] <OldPink> chade, Pici - I've got a friend installing Ubuntu on his laptop now, and he's going to see how much RAM it uses just running a base install. It's hard to get an idea here, as I have apache, firefox, google desktop, multiple background processes etc. That should help me choose
[02:23] <Jack_Sparrow> xoRock: I use the dd command three lines in a terminal and you can do it right now while we talk..
[02:23] <Russian> !ati
[02:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:23] <OldPink> Frogzoo: I'm buying a 256 laptop for a reason. If I could afford a 1gig laptop, you know I would.
[02:23] <chade> OldPink:  i would suggest 512 - 1gb ... but if you arent running much you might get away with 256 ...will be kinda slow at times though
[02:23] <ilikec0ws> dvd__, I dont think VIAs support 3D, as in the fancy eye candy stuff etc..
[02:24] <xoRock> Jack_Sparrow, i typed "dd" enter it stuck, or is it?
[02:24] <Jerome_> updates are taking forever to download
[02:24] <pim> Hello, i'm looking for a program that will help me resize large amount of pictures at the same time. saving me the effort of going over them one by one.
[02:24] <chade> jerome_:  join the crowd the openoffice site is deadly slow
[02:24] <PG> Russian: we can speak in a private chat look on the left hand side
[02:24] <OldPink> chade it's not going to be a primary system. I already have a 3Ghz 1GB desktop, it's just for browsing/pidgin :)
[02:24] <Jerome_> yeah
[02:24] <ilikec0ws> chade, Are they new updates?
[02:24] <havar> pim: imagemagick
[02:24] <Jack_Sparrow> xoRock: open a terminal...  type sudo su  enter... cd space / enter
[02:24] <Russian> PG Its better to talk in here, other people may use the info also
[02:25] <chade> ilikec0ws:  yeah .. new patches for openoffice
[02:25] <PG> yes alright
[02:25] <Russian> !resolution
[02:25] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:25] <Russian> PG sec I am working on it
[02:25] <pim> havar. i'll look into that one. thanks
[02:25] <ilikec0ws> chade, Imagine the amount of people donwloading them then ;)
[02:25] <PG> Russian: do you have seen my conf
[02:25] <xoRock> Jack_Sparrow, then?
[02:25] <Jack_Sparrow> xoRock: tar cvpzf backupxorock.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backupxorock.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys --exclude=/media -- /
[02:26] <Jack_Sparrow> xoRock: that is a mouthfull
[02:26] <OldPink> And I'll be using Firefox 3 Alpha 6 (http://www.mbhoy.com/05-07-2007/gran-paradiso-alpha-6) as my experiences with that are excellent, and it dramatically cuts RAM usage. As you can see in the article. So really chade hopefully with a 512Mb Swap and very little running, I should be OK, but Xubuntu is always there to save me, or Fluxubuntu if I'm really cutting down
[02:26] <xoRock> Jack_Sparrow, haha
[02:26] <PG> Hellllllllllppppppppp
[02:26] <Pici> !ask | PG
[02:26] <ubotu> PG: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:26] <AnRkey> PG what card do you have?
[02:27] <Jack_Sparrow> xoRock: You should then see all your files bing compressed into a file in /
[02:27] <chade> OldPink:  i think you will be just fine
[02:27] <PG> I have a ati (radeon 9700)
[02:27] <pyro> unlucky
[02:27] <AnRkey> yeah
[02:27] <Russian> PG yes I have
[02:27] <AnRkey> nvidia forever
[02:27] <m1r> PG ; google > envy
[02:27] <Russian> PG Open synapic package manger
[02:27] <PG> OK
[02:27] <xoRock> Jack_Sparrow, yes and how do i restore the system?
[02:28] <Russian> PG search ATI
[02:28] <PG> I dont want a ati driver
[02:28] <PG> i have it
[02:28] <Jack_Sparrow> xoRock: to restore  sudo su... cd /   ...tar xvpfz backupxorock.tgz -C /
[02:28] <LucianIndy> is there a way to create a launcher that will allow you to drag and drop a file or directory and it would chmod it 700 and change group/user to root?
[02:28] <Russian> then you should just run the command I gave you and it should work
[02:28] <ilikec0ws> PG, my advice would be join #ubuntu-de and ask in german
[02:28] <PG> Russian: And what
[02:29] <PG> Russian: And then
[02:29] <xoRock> Jack_Sparrow, ic, its quite handy ^^
[02:29] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup
[02:29] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[02:29] <Russian> PG Try this
[02:29] <Russian> sudo apt-get update
[02:29] <Russian> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic restricted-manager
[02:29] <OldPink> Thanks chade.
[02:29] <Jack_Sparrow> xoRock: there is more info on that for you, it explains the excludes
[02:30] <OldPink> Glad that means I can just use one of my shipit CDs, no need to download 700Mb on this 576 connection :P
[02:30] <Nephelauxetic> hi
[02:30] <xoRock> Jack_Sparrow, thx ^^
[02:31] <Jack_Sparrow> xoRock: My other suggestion is to copy your /var/cache/apt/archive folder to a cd ...  that way if you need to reinstall 7.04 for some reason.. you will not need to download all the updates again...
[02:31] <wolverine> anyone know how to setup ftpd from apt? there is no man page nor app called ftpd :P
[02:31] <PG> Russian: on the second code (from you) it says E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[02:31] <grim76> wolverine: try vsftpd
[02:31] <OldPink> PG, you can only run one installation based program at once
[02:31] <Jack_Sparrow> xoRock: just copy them from the cd back to that folder or add the cd to your repo
[02:31] <Russian> PG try to restart ubunu
[02:31] <OldPink> PG, close synaptic/update manager
[02:31] <PG> ok
[02:32] <Nephelauxetic> I'm having problems with my hald (on Feisty, several machines/different hardware). When I use nautilus hald hangs and causes the system to freeze. Also vmware is making trouble
[02:32] <wolverine> grim76: ill, thx ;] 
[02:32] <PG> Russian: and then
[02:32] <xoRock> Jack_Sparrow, ok
[02:32] <Jack_Sparrow> xoRock: any questions on that
[02:32] <Russian> Try the codes again
[02:32] <Russian> did it update?
[02:33] <xoRock> Jack_Sparrow, thax that would be all 4 now
[02:33] <sarthor> Hi, When i try to start /etc/init.d/shaper , so i got the message.. RTNETLINK answers: No such file or directory... help please....
[02:33] <Jack_Sparrow> xoRock: np
[02:33] <xoRock> Jack_Sparrow, maybe one more question
[02:33] <RickH> Does anyone work with OpenZaurus?
[02:33] <xoRock> Jack_Sparrow, my flash disk got corrupted quite often since use ubuntu
[02:34] <Nephelauxetic> the messages are: http://pastebin.ca/614198
[02:34] <xoRock> Jack_Sparrow, i just want to know if others are having same problem like me
[02:34] <Jack_Sparrow> xoRock: Really need to make sure you unmount/eject it and wait for the light to stop before unplugging
[02:34] <dvd__> !!!HELP!!! I can't get vga drivers to work on Ubuntu 7.04 with integrated vga via k8m890, no 3d. System freezes when I try to execute  glxgears -info
[02:34] <PG> Russian: ant
[02:34] <dvd__> !!!PLEASE, HELP!!!
[02:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about please, help!!! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:35] <xoRock> Jack_Sparrow, yes i did, and it still happen
[02:35] <ilikec0ws> dvd__, I told you VIS doesnt support 3D I dont think, unless you get the openchrome drivers, if your card supports them
[02:35] <xoRock> Jack_Sparrow, also do u know how to format flash disk from ubuntu?
[02:35] <sarthor> Hi, When i try to start /etc/init.d/shaper , so i get the message.. RTNETLINK answers: No such file or directory... help please....
[02:35] <PG> can some one helpt me about my screen resolution
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> xoRock: what do you use the flash for?
[02:36] <xoRock> Jack_Sparrow, copying data? i have 2 gig Adata
[02:36] <dawn`chorus> PG, what's wrong with your screen res?  what're you trying to do?
[02:36] <Nephelauxetic> I'm having problems with my hald (on Feisty, several machines/different hardware). When I use nautilus hald hangs and causes the system to freeze. Also vmware is making trouble. See messages: http://pastebin.ca/614198 which is repeated till I cold boot
[02:37] <pyro> lol? linux thinks docx is a zip?
[02:37] <Jack_Sparrow> xoRock: I have never doe it but I assume gparted would format the flash.. Id have to google it .. I have not had that problem but I dont plug or unplug my flash drive with the system on.
[02:37] <Frogzoo> Jack_Sparrow: that works fine
[02:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Frogzoo: Hi, what works fine
[02:37] <dvd__> ilikec0ws: OK, 10x, anyway
[02:37] <Frogzoo> Jack_Sparrow: just unmount before you unplug
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Frogzoo: I assumed it would.. I just dont have the need
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Frogzoo: That is where I store my dd backup file
[02:38] <Russian> For some reason, available updates arent downloading?
[02:38] <Frogzoo> grr.. these OO updates aren't gonna happen anytime soon...
[02:39] <xoRock> Frogzoo, i wait till the light is absolutely off and eject it
[02:39] <chade> haha .. mine have been going for an hour Frogzoo
[02:39] <PG> i wrote 1280x1024 in the xorg.conf (on  all colors) and when i restart my pc and then i will change it but the normaly resolution like 1024x768 nad 800x600 but i delet the resolution in my conf
[02:39] <xoRock> Frogzoo, is it different, eject vs unmount?
[02:39] <Frogzoo> xoRock: just as long as you unmount first
[02:39] <Frogzoo> xoRock: oh yes..
[02:40] <sarthor> Hi, When i try to start /etc/init.d/shaper , so i get the message.. RTNETLINK answers: No such file or directory... help please....
[02:40] <xoRock> Jack_Sparrow, o well maybe its why
[02:40] <Frogzoo> xoRock: easiest way is to put the Disk Mounter applet in your taskbar & use that to unmount
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Frogzoo: good idea
[02:40] <xoRock> Jack_Sparrow, do i need to unmount it or eject on the first place??
[02:41] <PG> dawn"chorus : i think it sets the screen resolution everytime at defaults
[02:41] <aznpridechinese> anyone know why when i try to install the latest alsa driver 1.0.14 it gives me some kind of permission error during installation?
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> xoRock: unmount
[02:41] <xoRock> Frogzoo, ok i added it
[02:41] <dawn`chorus> PG, pastebin your xorg.conf for us.
[02:42] <PG> ok at the site
[02:42] <xoRock> Jack_Sparrow, Frogzoo, thanx ill see how it work ^^ cheers
[02:43] <mythrage> anybody using ipw2100
[02:43] <jabon> #ubuntu-es
[02:43] <Frogzoo> !anyone | mythrage
[02:43] <ubotu> mythrage: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:43] <PG> See my conf : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29474/
[02:43] <aznpridechinese> anyone?
[02:43] <LucianIndy> i want to create a launcher that will allow you to drag and drop a file to it, enter your sudo pw, then it would chmod the item to 700, change ownership to root and change the group to root. is this possible?
[02:44] <PG> my config : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29474/
[02:44] <Frogzoo> LucianIndy: you can drop onto launchers?
[02:45] <LucianIndy> yeah, i have one that is             gksudo "gnome-open %u"
[02:45] <RickH> LucianIndy:  I like the idea.
[02:45] <LucianIndy> drop a file onto that and enter sudo, then it opens as sudo
[02:45] <mythrage> Does anyone using ipw2100 on ubuntu
[02:46] <RickH> LucianLindy:  That would be very nice.  Right now there are many apps that I have to start in terminal for that reason.
[02:46] <LucianIndy> the value of %u when you drop something is file:///whatever/whatever/etc
[02:46] <dawn`chorus> PG, i don't know why you can't get your desired resolution.
[02:46] <LucianIndy> i need one that doesn't do file:/// because chmod,chgrp, and chown wont allow it
[02:46] <RickH> LucianIndy:  Is that a desktop change as well?
[02:46] <dawn`chorus> PG, try reading on this page: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:46] <LucianIndy> RickH, desktop change?
[02:47] <Pici> LucianIndy: you could write a script to pull off the first part of the path and then run that through the commands you want.
[02:47] <RickH> LucianIndy:  Something like modifying drag-and-drop behavior?
[02:47] <dawn`chorus> PG, here's the ATI part: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto#head-42bafbcee7a10ed50f2d9016555557b9874be252
[02:47] <LucianIndy> no, it works without any mods
[02:47] <RickH> nice
[02:47] <LucianIndy> just make a launcher with 'gksudo "gnome-open %u" ' (minus the single ')
[02:47] <Nephelauxetic> I'm having problems with my hald (on Feisty, several machines/different hardware). When I use nautilus hald hangs and causes the system to freeze. Also vmware is making trouble. See messages: http://pastebin.ca/614198 which is repeated till I cold boot
[02:48] <PG> dawn" chorus: ive made a reconfigure and then when ubuntu started a message pop uped and it asked me with wich options the settings will load (system or gmone desktop) i decided system and that is why the shi doeant workkkkkkkk
[02:48] <LucianIndy> and you can drag/drop anything that needs to be opened via sudo
[02:48] <LucianIndy> Pici, i'll try that
[02:48] <SAndre> hello
[02:48] <LucianIndy> i'll have to use perl or something wont i?
[02:48] <Jerome_> 16 of 18 updates downloaded, woohooo
[02:49] <RickH> Jerome:  Slow going, eh? :)
[02:49] <Jerome_> Yeah
[02:49] <portal> is security.ubuntu.com down?
[02:49] <RickH> Jerome:  I only got about 36kB/s this morning.
[02:49] <Jerome_> RichH: my cable uploads faster atm.
[02:49] <Jerome_> yeah, thats what I'm getting
[02:49] <Jerome_> :P
[02:49] <RickH> Jerome_:  :)
[02:49] <FunnyLookinHat> portal, no, it's just hella slow because everyone is downloading a 63MB security patch
[02:50] <portal> thanks for the info
[02:50] <FunnyLookinHat> n/p
[02:50] <FunnyLookinHat> :)
[02:50] <PG> dawn`chorus: do you understand
[02:51] <dawn`chorus> PG, no.  i didn't understand your last message.
[02:51] <Jerome_> DVD::rip is a command line interface isn't it?
[02:51] <PG> i cant speak english ver well
[02:51] <Jerome_> or "has a command line interface"
[02:51] <dawn`chorus> PG, have you tried the ubuntu channel for your locale?
[02:51] <PG> dawn`chorus: but its apeard a message window and it asked me with some settings
[02:52] <MTecknology> a
[02:52] <dawn`chorus> PG, it did this once you added the resolution to xorg.conf?
[02:53] <jetscreamer> dvd:rip is a perl front end, but it sucks
[02:53] <jetscreamer> to transcode, iirc
[02:53] <PG> also i reconfigured my conf bcause a 60 Hz problem
[02:53] <PG> and then it came a message
[02:53] <PG> and then i wrote the resolution
[02:53] <jetscreamer> try avidemux if you want easy & fun to use
[02:53] <jetscreamer> !iinfo hwinfo
[02:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about iinfo hwinfo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:54] <jetscreamer> !info hwinfo
[02:54] <ubotu> hwinfo: Hardware identification system. In component universe, is optional. Version 13.11-3 (feisty), package size 40 kB, installed size 108 kB
[02:54] <jetscreamer> run that get your v&h rates
[02:54] <jetscreamer> put them in
[02:54] <jetscreamer> pg
[02:54] <jetscreamer> hwinfo --monitor
[02:54] <PG> jetstreamer: what??
[02:54] <dawn`chorus> PG, you haven't restarted X since you added the new resolution?
[02:54] <PG> ive restarted it so many times
[02:55] <jetscreamer> sudo aptitude install hwinfo && sudo hwinfo --monitor to get the v&h rates to put in xorg.conf for your monitor
[02:55] <jetscreamer> grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log also
[02:55] <jetscreamer> to see why
[02:55] <PG> wait a second it installed all
[02:57] <PG> jetscreamer: and when i look at these things
[02:58] <jetscreamer> pg at the very bottom
[02:58] <jetscreamer> it should say vertical and horiz rates
[02:58] <PG> jetscreamer: What did i do now
[02:58] <shirish> ubotu dial-up
[02:58] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[02:58] <jetscreamer> those are what you put in xorg.conf, either when you edit or run dpkg-reconfigure
[02:59] <jetscreamer> pg what does grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log return
[02:59] <PG> jetscreamer: What for things, the resolution or waht?????????
[03:00] <Alkhouli> hi guys . i am having a problem with a pre-installed proxy "tinyproxy" and it denys me from connecting to some sites ... i tried uninstalling it but i lost all the sites access then , i don't know wut to do ? can anyone help ?
[03:00] <jetscreamer> PG: when it asks you about your monitors refresh rates, in the advanced section of the dpkg-reconfigure... it gives you a choice between simple medium and advanced...
[03:00] <PG> jetscreamer:  grep EE says can not open device
[03:00] <Alkhouli> "tinyproxy"  denys me from connecting to some sites ... i tried uninstalling it but i lost all the sites access then , i don't know wut to do ? can anyone help ?
[03:00] <jetscreamer> pg grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log gave you that?
[03:00] <PG> jetscreamer:  Yes
[03:01] <jetscreamer> does it say which device, pg?
[03:01] <Alkhouli> jetscreamer, can u help me with removing tinyproxy ?
[03:01] <PG> jetscreamer:  wacom but wacom isnt a screen
[03:01] <jetscreamer> aptitude remove --purge tinyproxy ?
[03:02] <jetscreamer> pg so do you have a wacom? (i know nothing about wacom tablets)
[03:02] <PG> NO i dont have that
[03:02] <jetscreamer> ok
[03:02] <PG> I asked about my shit screen
[03:02] <PG> i go crazyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[03:02] <jetscreamer> pg so what vid card/gpu is it
[03:02] <PG> a ati 9700
[03:02] <jetscreamer> what driver are you using
[03:03] <PG> the normal oone
[03:03] <jetscreamer> ati? radeon? for xorg i mean
[03:03] <PG> not the fglrx
[03:03] <jetscreamer> ya
[03:03] <Frogzoo> LucianIndy: I think you want "gksu  "/bin/chown root %F" && gksu "/bin/chmod 700 %F"
[03:03] <RickH> Has anyone had any problems with ntfs-3g?
[03:03] <jetscreamer> works just fine here rickh
[03:04] <Alkhouli> jetscreamer, i dd the aptitude remove , but i can't connect to HTTP sites anymore now !!
[03:04] <RickH> I ask because I've seen several people (and read several blogs) indicating you should not use it on NTFS disks.  As if it were still buggy and could cause corruption.
[03:04] <jetscreamer> pg i'm not sure what to tell you then.  can you paste your xorg.conf in a pastebin?
[03:05] <RickH> I haven't had any problem so far.
[03:05] <jetscreamer> RickH: all i know is i've used it a few times and checked with chkdsk in windows everytime... no problems
[03:05] <jetscreamer> so far
[03:05] <PG> ive made that pastbin thing
[03:05] <RGautier> Whats the link, PG
[03:05] <jetscreamer> you should not use the ntfs write in the regular ntfs support
[03:05] <PG> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29474/
[03:06] <Alkhouli> jetscreamer, it seems that the system can not go out to HTTP sites without that proxy ! How can i reconfigure it ?!
[03:06] <Russian> Restricted Driver manager says Ati accelerated graphics drive is not in use, how to put it in use?
[03:06] <RickH> jetscreamer:  I'm not sure what you mean.
[03:07] <Alkhouli> Alfred0, can u help ?
[03:07] <Alkhouli> ak_ ? can u help ?
[03:07] <tallman> Russian: ?  
[03:07] <jetscreamer> Alkhouli: not sure, try ifdown && ifup maybe... ifdown eth0, ifup eth0...
[03:07] <PriceChild> !ru | tallman
[03:07] <ubotu> tallman:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[03:07] <jetscreamer> RickH: ntfs-3g != the ntfsprogs/etal support that comes in the kernel
[03:08] <jetscreamer> the ntfsprogs one is not to be used
[03:08] <tallman> PriceChild: i didn't ask him for help
[03:08] <Fiercirous> hi all, i wish to find out if there is a generic webcam driver for ubuntu? i have got a free webcam as a sign up gift but this free webcam is a tailored product, and therefore no liunx drivers are provided. appreciate any leads onto this.
[03:08] <PG> jetscreamer: And waht is it
[03:08] <RickH> jetscreamer:  Do I have to undo something after installing ntfs-3g?
[03:08] <RickH> jetscreamer:  Undo something in the kernel?
[03:09] <Fiercirous> hi all, i wish to find out if there is a generic webcam driver for ubuntu? i have got a free webcam as a sign up gift but this free webcam is a tailored product, and therefore no liunx drivers are provided. appreciate any leads onto this. btw, there is no model number for the webcam. i have got it working in windows though. but not ubuntu; ubuntu failed to detect it (usb connection).
[03:09] <jetscreamer> PG: when you did hwinfo, did it return the values of HorizSync	28-51 & VertRefresh	43-60 ?
[03:09] <Russian> Tallman da ruski
[03:09] <jetscreamer> pg also it seems to indicate you have 3 wacoms
[03:09] <PG> wait
[03:09] <jetscreamer> RickH: no you don't, you just have to mount the hd with -t ntfs-3g instead of -t ntfs
[03:09] <jetscreamer> s/hd/partition/
[03:10] <RickH> jetscreamer:  Where do I check that that is happening?  Does the ntfs-3g install package do that automatically?
[03:10] <tallman> Russian: why don't you ask at the russian channel then?)
[03:10] <jetscreamer> RickH: if you installed ntfs-3g all required files 'should' have been installed at the same time (if you didn't have them)
[03:10] <Russian> tallman Caues I have an english keyboard
[03:10] <RickH> jetscreamer:  Okay... I figured as much.  You were beginning to make me nervous. :)
[03:11] <jetscreamer> RickH: no you would just need to amend your fstab or the mount command you use
[03:11] <tallman> Russian: that makes it clear.
[03:11] <askand> someone here has a canon MP* printer?
[03:11] <PG> oh mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
[03:11] <inflex-lap> Hi there - I'm trying to get a RaLink RT2400 PCI wifi card working on Ubuntu 7.04, it sees the card, I can configure it - but it won't connect to the network.  On the other hand, this laptop with a different wifi card -does- connect with the same settings
[03:11] <PG>  igo
[03:11] <inflex-lap> Anyone got any suggestions
[03:12] <jetscreamer> gah i hate helping ppl who bail
[03:12] <RickH> jetscreamer:  I'm still here. :P
[03:12] <Russian> When I try to register my name, it says already registered
[03:12] <Russian> Can I retrieve password ?
[03:13] <jetscreamer> Russian: if it's your name
[03:13] <Russian> jetscreamer how to do that then?
[03:13] <jetscreamer> Russian: find out how long it's been unused, then ask in #freenode
[03:13] <jetscreamer> somebody already has the nick probably
[03:13] <Russian> jetscreamer how can I find that out
[03:13] <jetscreamer> Russian: http://freenode.org/
[03:13] <jetscreamer> should be instructions there
[03:13] <jetscreamer> or at least clues
[03:14] <Frogzoo> Russian: /msg nickserv info nick
[03:14] <jetscreamer> ah ^^
[03:14] <Russian> tjaml upi
[03:14] <Russian> Tjamls
[03:14] <Russian> Thanks
[03:14] <jetscreamer> thanks
[03:14] <PriceChild> Russian, staff can drop the nick so you can use it... type "/stats p" and message a staffer that that shows.
[03:15] <tallman> I'm trying to register a gpg key at launchpad, I've created the key , but what about the key-id ?
[03:15] <tallman> #  Ensure the key has been uploaded to a keyserver. To do this:
[03:15] <tallman> gpg --send-key key-id
[03:15] <Russian> PriceChild Thanks
[03:17] <Frogzoo> tallman: key-id is the mail address for that key
[03:17] <tallman> Frogzoo: thanks
[03:17] <flagg> hello everyone
[03:17] <elyunque> hello flagg
[03:18] <MrTsunami> 'lo flagg
[03:18] <flagg> during test my ubuntu cd i got "itco .... no reboot flag caused by hardware"
[03:18] <flagg> or something like tht..
[03:18] <flagg> should i b worried?!
[03:18] <Russian> Wohoo registered thanks for helping
[03:22] <Russian> How to install themes downloaded from http://www.gnome-look.org/
[03:22] <Frogzoo> Russian: sys -> prefs -> themes
[03:23] <Russian> Frogzoo I know that but what extention is the theme file
[03:23] <pyron84> hallo
[03:23] <Frogzoo> Russian: just install the .tgz
[03:24] <pyron84> hi together does anyone know how to konfigure a rc from a dvb-tv-usb-tuner ?
[03:24] <Russian> Frogzoo its like this : 48213-Relaxing_Water-0.1.tar.bz2
[03:24] <Frogzoo> Russian: same deal
[03:24] <Alkhouli> i need help in resetting my browser after tinyproxy removal !!
[03:25] <Russian> Frogzoo: The file format is invalid.
[03:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Russian: Just drop the tar onto the open theme manager
[03:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Russian: Not all themes work on all systems
[03:25] <Russian> Oh :(
[03:26] <Alkhouli> axisys, ?
[03:26] <Alkhouli> Ayarcy, American-Tech amki ?
[03:26] <Russian> What about the GDM theme?
[03:27] <Russian> Jack_Sparrow for example: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Doe+GDM?content=52791
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Russian: You can make most work, by adding gtk2 if it is a gtk2 theme etc.. metacity etc..  but still not all will work. or will work as you expect
[03:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Russian: that one is invalid on my system too
[03:28] <Russian> =/
[03:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Russian: also note that many of the screenshots dont include wallpaper etc that is shown...
[03:29] <ubuntuEdgy> Russian: i have the gdm too
[03:29] <shendy> hi knln donk?
[03:29] <Russian> ubuntuEdgy you have that link theme?
[03:30] <ubuntuEdgy> looks nice, but i have had it for too long so im going to change it now
[03:30] <ubuntuEdgy> Russian:  i have it installed
[03:30] <Skwid_> what filesystem should i use if i want to share files between ubuntu and vista ? fat32 ?
[03:30] <Russian> ubuntuEdgy can you help me install it please?
[03:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Russian: try one of the gtk2 themes
[03:30] <W8TAH> i need some help getting freenx or equivalent running
[03:30] <rob_> I use FAT32 because you can write to it, yes.
[03:30] <shendy> hi knln donk?
[03:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Skwid_: I have a fat32 as well
[03:31] <Skwid_> Jack_Sparrow: ok
[03:31] <Skwid_> thank you !
[03:31] <Nicke> Skwid_: I use ntfs (ntfs-3g) to share between Ubuntu and Windows XP
[03:31] <Nicke> Skwid_: But fat32 should work too ;)
[03:31] <ubuntuEdgy> Russian: it easy
[03:31] <Skwid_> Nicke: can you write with ubuntu with no problem ?
[03:31] <ubuntuEdgy> you can figure it out ;)
[03:32] <rob_> Anyone know where the desktop icons for mounted devices live? They're not in ~/Desktop
[03:32] <Nicke> Skwid_: Yep, it has worked flawlessly (both write and read)
[03:32] <Russian> ubuntuEdgy I get error every time
[03:32] <rustalot> I'm getting a new computer, and I'm going to put Kubuntu on it; but I want to wipe my current one and install a different distro on it. I want one that's a bit more challenging that Kubuntu, but not really obscure. What distro should I choose?
[03:32] <pyron84> hi together does anyone know how to konfigure a rc from a dvb-tv-usb-tuner ?
[03:32] <ubuntuEdgy> Russian: what it it ?
[03:32] <Skwid_> Nicke: ok, maybe i'll do that then, because fat32 is a bit outdated
[03:32] <ubuntuEdgy> is*
[03:32] <Nicke> Skwid_: (Just have to make sure to not hibernate Windows XP, otherwise Ubuntu won't have access to the partitions)
[03:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Skwid_: I dont let ubuntu write to the XP partition nor do I let XP write to Ubuntu partition.
[03:33] <Russian> ubuntuEdgy The file format is invalid.
[03:33] <rob_> what is NTFS-3g ? Can I use that to RW to an existing NTFS partition?
[03:33] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[03:33] <Skwid_> Jack_Sparrow: yeah, that's fine, i just want to write on the 'data' partition
[03:33] <rob_> ah, right. worth knowing.
[03:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Skwid_: If you have a spare ntfs use ntfs-3g
[03:34] <Nicke> Skwid_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions/ThirdPartyNTFS3G
[03:34] <el_kabrilla> aki no hay nadie ke hable spanish
[03:34] <el_kabrilla> ?
[03:34] <Skwid_> Skwid_: right now it's not formatted, i'm going to format my extra partition, that'S why im asking
[03:34] <rob_> Nicke: thanks
[03:34] <ubuntuEdgy> Russian:go to system>administration>log in window
[03:35] <Nicke> np
[03:35] <Russian> ubuntuedgy done
[03:35] <ubuntuEdgy> the click local
[03:35] <ubuntuEdgy> click*
[03:36] <ubuntuEdgy> Russian: can u see all the gdm themes ?
[03:36] <Russian> ubuntuedgy yes
[03:36] <ubuntuEdgy> click add
[03:36] <juggernaut> all: Whenever i open synaptic, the system hangs and i m required either to force quit or to relogin
[03:36] <KIRTAN> my cd drive is not working and i want to install Ubuntu feisty from usb pen drive to my HDD
[03:37] <juggernaut> all"
[03:37] <Russian> ubuntuedgy Got it thanks a lot
[03:37] <juggernaut> all : help
[03:37] <ubuntuEdgy> np
[03:37] <beni> Hello, I got a piped input like this "1 2 3 4 5" how can i extract only the "4" ?
[03:37] <togr> Beni, what language?
[03:37] <beni> togr: sorry, bash
[03:37] <multik> hi guys
[03:37] <beni> I forgot the command
[03:37] <juggernaut> all: Whenever i open synaptic, the system hangs and i m required either to force quit or to relogin
[03:38] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntuEdgy: Thanks.. I just learned something as well.
[03:38] <togr> echo "1 2 3 4 5" | cut -d" " -f4
[03:38] <KIRTAN> hello install Ubuntu feisty from usb pen drive to my HDD
[03:38] <Russian> ubuntuedgy I need to restart before its active?
[03:39] <KIRTAN> some one help me please
[03:39] <askand> someone here has a canon MP* printer?
[03:40] <pyron84> hi together does anyone know how to konfigure a rc from a dvb-tv-usb-tuner ?
[03:42] <ChIP83> hi
[03:42] <pyron84> hi together does anyone know how to konfigure a rc from a dvb-tv-usb-tuner ?
[03:42] <togr> Beni, did that help?
[03:42] <ChIP83> guy how i can rotate my desktop *cube function* with compiz ?
[03:43] <beni> togr: works like a charm, thank you :)
[03:43] <rolfen> ChIP83: you mean Ctrl-Alt Left arrow ?
[03:43] <flake>  i just played with a gutsy appliance in vmware and it seems to run well, is it ready for prime time?
[03:44] <juggernaut> all: Whenever i open synaptic, the system hangs and i m required either to force quit or to relogin
[03:44] <ChIP83> but don-t work...
[03:44] <juggernaut> all : help
[03:44] <ChIP83> i can change the desktop but i don-t see the cube effect
[03:45] <togr> rolfen, I think chip wants the rotating cube effect like what MacOSX uses to switch between users
[03:45] <flake> is anyone playing with gutsy yet
[03:45] <Russian> ubuntuedgy, I dont have the theme working when I logged in ubuntu, am I doing something wrong?
[03:45] <juggernaut> all: Whenever i open synaptic, the system hangs and i m required either to force quit or to relogin
[03:45] <juggernaut> all: Whenever i open synaptic, the system hangs and i m required either to force quit or to relogin
[03:45] <juggernaut> all : help
[03:45] <ChIP83> yes torg
[03:46] <rolfen> ChIP83: weird, i guess you need to enable the cube plugin
[03:46] <ChIP83> *togr sry
[03:46] <pyron84> hi together does anyone know how to konfigure a rc from a dvb-tv-usb-tuner ?
[03:46] <pyron84> hi together does anyone know how to konfigure a rc from a dvb-tv-usb-tuner ?
[03:46] <pyron84> hi together does anyone know how to konfigure a rc from a dvb-tv-usb-tuner ?
[03:46] <pyron84> hi together does anyone know how to konfigure a rc from a dvb-tv-usb-tuner ?
[03:46] <ubuntuEdgy> Russian: did you remmber to select it
[03:46] <juggernaut> all: Whenever i open synaptic, the system hangs and i m required either to force quit or to relogin
[03:46] <juggernaut> all: Whenever i open synaptic, the system hangs and i m required either to force quit or to relogin
[03:46] <Lumiere> pyron84: stop repeating yourself
[03:46] <juggernaut> all: Whenever i open synaptic, the system hangs and i m required either to force quit or to relogin
[03:46] <juggernaut> all: Whenever i open synaptic, the system hangs and i m required either to force quit or to relogin
[03:46] <Lumiere> wtf...
[03:46] <juggernaut> all: Whenever i open synaptic, the system hangs and i m required either to force quit or to relogin
[03:46] <flake> juggernaut - I'm guessing one of the repo's are down ?
[03:46] <juggernaut> all: Whenever i open synaptic, the system hangs and i m required either to force quit or to relogin
[03:46] <gilo2> has anyone used IPMI on ubuntu?
[03:46] <juggernaut> all: Whenever i open synaptic, the system hangs and i m required either to force quit or to relogin
[03:46] <juggernaut> all: Whenever i open synaptic, the system hangs and i m required either to force quit or to relogin
[03:46] <juggernaut> all: Whenever i open synaptic, the system hangs and i m required either to force quit or to relogin
[03:46] <flake> juggernaut please don't spam
[03:46] <ChIP83> rolfen i have enable the cube plug in in the system bar > desktop effect
[03:46] <rolfen> !spam
[03:46] <ubotu> Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[03:46] <preem> Boooooooooom!
[03:46] <juggernaut> all: Whenever i open synaptic, the system hangs and i m required either to force quit or to relogin
[03:46] <juggernaut> all: like?
[03:46] <RickH> juggernaut:  What are you trying to say? :P
[03:47] <juggernaut> ok
[03:47] <Lumiere> anyone want to ban him
[03:47] <adrian_> hi
[03:47] <rolfen> !Repeat | juggernaut
[03:47] <ubotu> juggernaut: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:47] <adrian_> could i ask anyone here a q?
[03:47] <flake> nah he just needs to learn how this works
[03:47] <RickH> rolfen:  I think that was pretty clear:  repeat your question one time.
[03:47] <M-> adrian_: It's an open channel, please go ahead. :)
[03:48] <flake> juggernaut, usually no one knows or people are afk, if someone knows and is available usually help out
[03:48] <isojussi> anyone familiar how to get NIC with rtl8139d chip to boot with boot floppy?
[03:48] <ChIP83> rolfen i have enable the cube plug in in the system bar > preferences > desktop effect, and i have check workspaces on a cube, but still not work...
[03:48] <flake> my adept updater is waiting as well for headers, I think it's that dumb repo I had to add for SSH support
[03:48] <flake> sevenseas..
[03:49] <rolfen> juggernaut: try this: gksudo ls
[03:49] <rolfen> I's to see if gksudo is causing the trouble
[03:49] <LeiraHua> hi~  when i inserted a CD, it did mounted, but it was not shown in places sidebar of nautilus, and there was not a convinient place in GUI to umount/eject it, i have to eject it in console every time~
[03:50] <gilo2> Is installing using IPMI for lights out managment?
[03:50] <gilo2> oops let me reword that
[03:50] <ubuntuEdgy> Russian: it should look like this http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/5069/rusna8.png
[03:50] <LeiraHua> how can i add CD-Rom to places, and umount it from there, just like USB disks?
[03:50] <gilo2> is anyone using IPMI for lights out management?
[03:50] <adrian_> so, i have this transportable harddisc, and i have linked it to my computer. but whenever i try to write anything on it i get the message that i don't have the permission to do so. so i looked at the properties and permission, and it said i was not the owner, and could not change the permissions. could this might be because i got it before i got ubuntu?
[03:50] <SpaceBass> anyone have problems with Amarok crashing in Feisty?
[03:50] <adrian_> what can i do?
[03:51] <Russian> guys how to create a xorg.conf file I am missing one
[03:51] <Russian> !xorg.conf
[03:51] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:52] <ubuntuEdgy> LeiraHua: sudo mount /dev/drive name* /whatever directory
[03:52] <pconda> hey guys
[03:52] <rolfen> ChIP83: I dont know... I have beryl so I can help a lot...
[03:52] <pconda> i am a complete neub
[03:52] <pconda> but i have some coding experience
[03:52] <rolfen> ChIP83: you have compiz-fusion?
[03:52] <ubuntuEdgy> hope that makes sense
[03:52] <ubuntuEdgy> :-P
[03:52] <ChIP83> i thinks yes
[03:52] <pconda> and i would like to make a modification to a plugin
[03:52] <pconda> is there any way i can do that
[03:52] <tobi_> i've got a short question: is it possible to automatically mount hard drives with ubuntu studio?
[03:52] <LeiraHua> ubuntuEdgy: what i asked is to avoid umounting from console everytime~
[03:52] <ChIP83> how i cna check it ?
[03:52] <Russian> What to do if you are missing the file xorg.conf
[03:52] <rolfen> ChIP83: I meant i cannot help a lot
[03:53] <LeiraHua> i think there should be a GUI way to umount it~
[03:53] <adrian_> could anyone please help me?
[03:53] <adrian_> so, i have this transportable harddisc, and i have linked it to my computer. but whenever i try to write anything on it i get the message that i don't have the permission to do so. so i looked at the properties and permission, and it said i was not the owner, and could not change the permissions. could this might be because i got it before i got ubuntu?
[03:53] <togr> hmm, enabling desktop effects efficiently logged me out :-P
[03:53] <QueenCat> rolfen, I have a beryl question for you: Do you know how to grap several windows at once and how to group them up into one window?
[03:53] <tobi_> without editing the /etc/fstab ? i don't get it. there is no possibility to configure it over the gui
[03:54] <flake> office updates, think everyone is hitting it at once, the download is going slow
[03:54] <rolfen> tobi_: yeah hold on one second
[03:54] <LeiraHua> adrian_: what''s the output when u run "mount" in  a console?
[03:54] <rolfen> tobi_: oops wrong person
[03:54] <adrian_> you mean like a terminal?
[03:54] <LeiraHua> hi~  when i inserted a CD, it did mounted, but it was not shown in places sidebar of nautilus, and there was not a convinient place in GUI to umount/eject it, i have to eject it in console every time~
[03:54] <LeiraHua> how can i add CD-Rom to places, and umount it from there, just like USB disks?
[03:54] <viden> is there a graphical way to change what windows manager you start up with, for some reason mine is starting up incorrectly every time i start X and i have to do a sudo metacity --replace to fix it.
[03:55] <LeiraHua> adrian_: yep~
[03:55] <flake> viden - from the login screen ?
[03:55] <adrian_> so should i tupe mount ???
[03:55] <adrian_> type*
[03:55] <viden> flake:  i get all the way into my desktop but my windows are missing their title bar / min / max all those items and i cant move them
[03:56] <LeiraHua> adrian_: open a teminal window, and type mount
[03:56] <rolfen> QueenCat: in beryl manager, go to window management -> group and tab windows  -> shortcuts
[03:56] <viden> seems that metacity is either not loading or not loading correctlyu
[03:56] <rolfen> QueenCat: and try out the shortcuts
[03:56] <adrian_> sould i just copy paste it in here?
[03:56] <LeiraHua> adrian_: of couse u shoud have your USB disck inserted~
[03:56] <adrian_> i have
[03:56] <LeiraHua> adrian_: if it's short enough~
[03:57] <flake> viden - sounds like you need to change your themes within?  find out for sure if you have metacity loaded
[03:57] <flake> first
[03:57] <adrian_> i have no trouble reading from it
[03:57] <viden> flake:  i am using the default human theme
[03:58] <vmlemon> Hi, I've just installed a PCI FireWire card, and lspci doesn't display it, do I need any kernel modules enabling to display it in lspci? Or is my card bad?
[03:58] <viden> flake:  how do you tell it to load metacity by default, i think this is a leftover issue from a beryl uninstall
[03:58] <SpaceBass> anyone have problems with Amarok crashing in Feisty? I'm using the one from the multiverse ... tried compiling and it fails
[03:58] <LeiraHua> adrian_: what's the output?
[03:58] <adrian_> /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[03:58] <adrian_> proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[03:58] <adrian_> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755)
[03:58] <adrian_> varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777)
[03:58] <adrian_> procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[03:58] <adrian_> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[03:58] <adrian_> devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[03:59] <adrian_> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[03:59] <adrian_> lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/volatile type tmpfs (rw)
[03:59] <adrian_> binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)
[03:59] <adrian_> /dev/scd0 on /media/cdrom0 type iso9660 (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,user=adrian)
[03:59] <adrian_> /dev/sdb1 on /media/disk type ntfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,umask=222,utf8)
[03:59] <adrian_> this is
[03:59] <SpaceBass> pastebin.ca
[04:00] <viden> Anyone know how to set the default window manager  ?
[04:00] <rolfen> QueenCat: the default it super-mouse button 1 to select
[04:00] <flake> viden - right-click on kmenu icon and do about metacity or about kde ?
[04:00] <viden> flake:  not using kde .. using gnome
[04:00] <rolfen> QueenCat: super-t to group
[04:01] <flake> sorry, I don't know enough but you should be able to find it in the ubuntu forum
[04:01] <jetsaredim> can someone help me enable the commercial repos?
[04:01] <Frogzoo> any ideas why F10 in Midnight Commander doesn't work? the other Fn keys do..
[04:01] <Chris___> can someone help me make my wlan/madwifi working?
[04:02] <jetsaredim> I added commercial after the multiverse and universe entries in my sources.list, but apt-get just errors out every time
[04:02] <QueenCat> rolfen, I do not have a Group module in Window management...
[04:02] <LeiraHua> adrian_: whitch one is your USB disk? /dev/sdb1?
[04:02] <_Iamda> define troll,please...
[04:03] <JimQode_> viden, use the menu on gdm login screen to choose a wm. it will ask if you want it to be default. say yes.
[04:03] <adrian_> i dont know
[04:03] <adrian_> one moment
[04:04] <LeiraHua> where will u access your disk?  /media/disk?
[04:04] <pyron84> hi together does anyone know how to konfigure a rc from a dvb-tv-usb-tuner ?
[04:05] <LeiraHua> i think that's it, i am not sure if it's because of NTFS, i have never tried ntfs USB disks b4~
[04:05] <viden> JimQode_ :  thanks
[04:05] <LeiraHua> hey guys, how did u umount a CDROM? from terminal or use a GUI way?
[04:06] <JimQode_> LeiraHua, just presing the eject button on cdrom works on feisty
[04:06] <SpaceBass> anyone have problems with Amarok crashing in Feisty? I'm using the one from the multiverse ... tried compiling and it fails
[04:06] <_Iamda> when on IRC, what are trolls?
[04:07] <adrian_> /dev/sdb1 on /media/disk type ntfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,umask=222,utf8)
[04:07] <adrian_>  is my disc
[04:07] <adrian_> i just checked
[04:07] <LeiraHua> adrian_: i think that's it, i am not sure if it's because of NTFS, i have never tried ntfs USB disks b4~
[04:07] <Viden> JimQode_:  on the Ubuntu login screen i click options, but there is no place to specify the windows manager used
[04:08] <rustalot> can you guys help me pick a distro? I want to put something more challenging than my current (Kubuntu) on my other computer to learn more about Linux.
[04:08] <madman91> rustalot: install gentoo
[04:08] <madman91> rustalot: you will learn quite a bit :)
[04:08] <adrian_> do you have any idea of what i should do?
[04:08] <JimQode_> Viden, I can't logout now to tell you what that options is but there is. It must be the second option from the top
[04:08] <madman91> rustalot: it is very complex
[04:09] <M-> rustalot: You could try debian. You'll learn a lot more about the underlying tech in Ubuntu.
[04:09] <komei> good evening
[04:09] <vlt> Hello. Do I have to restart any daemons after a change of /etc/logrotate.conf?
[04:10] <dr_willis> vlt,  proberly should.
[04:10] <rustalot> Thanks. I think I'll go for Debian, b/c it's kinda in between. Does it come as a bare CLI ?
[04:10] <Riot777> hi, is there a way to make virtual terminal fonts less ugly, some dpi change for tty or something (in feisty) ?
[04:10] <dr_willis> Riot777,  you can change the console fonts, or change the res with the various framebuffer tools
[04:10] <preem> hello...ubuntuforums....signature...cant get it to show up. i've enabled it, set it and it still wont show up :s whats up?
[04:10] <pyron84> hi together does anyone know how to konfigure a rc from a dvb-tv-usb-tuner ?
[04:10] <dr_willis> 'consolechars -f somthingoranother'
[04:10] <Riot777> thx
[04:11] <Riot777> I will look on that
[04:11] <LeiraHua> adrian_: do u have a fat32 USB disk? if u have, have a try if u can write on it~
[04:11] <dr_willis> Riot777,  the fonts are in  /usr/share/consolefonts
[04:11] <hendrixski> aaaarrrrgggg... GPG needs to be more user friendly :'-(
[04:11] <Frogzoo> Riot777: on a lappie/lcd - enable sub pixel threshold
[04:11] <Viden> JimQode:  the option is there to select the session .. i force it back to Gnome or use the xconfig session and both do the same thing, i still have to metacity --replace to fix my titlebars ... is it stored in a conf file somewhere to load metacity?
[04:11] <QueenCat> can anybody tell me hwo to group windows in beryl?
[04:11] <Riot777> kk, I got hires framebuffer tho but default sux, yes I got lcd
[04:12] <M-> rustalot: sure, it can - You just need to select the appropriate option (used to be either "minimal" (for the absolute minimal set of packages) or "no X" (for a more usable console environment))
[04:12] <adrian_> still can't
[04:12] <dr_willis> I tend to disable the framebuffer totally.
[04:12] <Frogzoo> Riot777: sys -> prefs -> sub pixel
[04:12] <M-> (in the installer, I mean)
[04:12] <Frogzoo> Riot777: sys -> prefs -> fonts -> sub pixel
[04:12] <QueenCat> can anybody tell me hwo to group windows in beryl?
[04:12] <dr_willis> !beryl
[04:12] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:13] <adrian_> permissions says that the owner is root, if that helps
[04:13] <numus> Anyone using avant navigation and know why the bottom of my screen is now black?
[04:13] <silvernode> where would I go if i wanted to change the menu bar and/or main menu to an image of my choice?
[04:13] <rustalot> M- : If I set it to no X, can I then install kde by doing su -c apt-get install kde or something like that?
[04:13] <LeiraHua> adrian_: i know it, from the mount output
[04:14] <LeiraHua> adrian_: the owner should be u, just like the cdrom line: /dev/scd0 on /media/cdrom0 type iso9660 (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,user=adrian)
[04:14] <m1r> silvernode , try /usr/share/pixmaps
[04:14] <rolfen> how do i create a thumbnail of an image using the gimp GUI - ie how do i "change image size"?
[04:14] <silvernode> thanks
[04:14] <adrian_> i have a maxtor disc, 300 GB
[04:14] <jabon> #ubuntu-es
[04:14] <LeiraHua> adaptr: maybe it's because of ntfs, so u can have a try with a fat32 disk~
[04:14] <M-> rustalot: Yeah, something along those lines. I'm a gnome user, and it's been a long time, but there are certainly meta-packages that pull in a full desktop environment if you run "su -c apt-get install gnome-desktop"
[04:15] <polarheat> are ubuntu servers down?
[04:15] <LeiraHua> adrian_: ... i c, u cannot have such a huge fat32 partition
[04:15] <rolfen> oh never mind i found it... feel dumb now
[04:15] <adrian_> ok
[04:15] <M-> so presumably there are KDE equivalents :)
[04:16] <Bogaurd> can anybody suggest a utility that I can run on my router which will tell me the network used by particular hosts on a daily basis?
[04:16] <PetarM> hi
[04:16] <vlt> dr_willis: What do you mean "proberly should"?
[04:17] <eauxnguyen> rolfen: use image drop down menu scale image
[04:17] <LeiraHua> JimQode_: i just tried, i found if it's a data disc, it would be shown in the places sidebar, and can be eject from there. if it's a DVD video disc, it will be autoplay by totem, and no places entry in nautilus. and neither of them can be eject by pressing the eject button here~
[04:17] <adrian_> maybe if i send a mail to maxtor for help
[04:17] <LeiraHua> adrian_: ... good idea~
[04:18] <PetarM> i have some problems with my Dell Inspirion 1501 notebook: Unlike on Windows (Vista), i can on Ubuntu 7.04 change only between 2 brightness steps (very bright/dark); The "WiFi"-lamp doesn't light when I come into a WiFi zone; How can I solve this problems?
[04:18] <silvernode> Ok i went into pixmaps but i need to know the exact path of the start menu icon. I can't seem to find it. I know i changed the splash pic with a manager but all that is in the folder is the image which leads me to believe the same is true for the start menu folder
[04:18] <rolfen> eauxnguyen: thanks
[04:19] <silvernode> i remember there was a way to change the slash and the start menu manually but i forgot how
[04:19] <silvernode> splash*
[04:20] <danl> !clone
[04:20] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[04:20] <dr_willis> vlt,  some demons dont need it.. many (most) do.
[04:20] <numus> anyone know how to perform a monitor reset on a dell monitor
[04:20] <danl> !automate
[04:20] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[04:21] <eauxnguyen> upgraded my thinkpad x30 to 7.04 and it now thinks wlan0 is a wired connection
[04:21] <silvernode> How exactly do i manually change the start menu icon?
[04:22] <eauxnguyen>  !wireless
[04:22] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:23] <silvernode> how exactly do i change the start menu icon in ubuntu?
[04:24] <jetscreamer> you could always figure out what icon it's using and edit/switch the icon, rename the one you want it to use to whatever it uses
[04:24] <jetscreamer> not sure how to do it normally
[04:25] <jetscreamer> :)
[04:25] <silvernode> jetscreamer: how would i check the icon?
[04:25] <jetscreamer> i cp'd /usr/share/icons to ~
[04:25] <jetscreamer> silvernode: i dunno, just do it
[04:25] <jetscreamer> examine the theme, see where it resides
[04:25] <ainesso> silvernode, maybe the answer can be found at http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=22x27&PHPSESSID=4a69323fd70d68aae397315ca4fe5a51
[04:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Has persistent mode on usb stick been fixed for fiesty and do you have a link?
[04:26] <jetscreamer> usually under /usr/share/themes i think but i forget
[04:26] <ainesso> or are you using gnomw?
[04:26] <ainesso> *gnome
[04:26] <silvernode> ainesso:all i want to do is change the menu icon which i have seen ppl do. And i want to do this in gnome
[04:27] <portal> why?
[04:27] <jetscreamer> yep there they are
[04:27] <nomad> is there anybody who would help me with a javascript problem?
[04:27] <danl> I have a question, I bought a keyboard while I was in japan last month. IT has keys for switching between the english alphabet, hiragana, and katakana. This is the standard Japanese keyboard layout. Is there any way to make linux detect it as such so I can type in japanese without the scim?
[04:28] <LeiraHua> JimQode_: i just tried, i found if it's a data disc, it would be shown in the places sidebar, and can be eject from there. if it's a DVD video disc, it will be autoplay by totem, and no places entry in nautilus. and neither of them can be eject by pressing the eject button here~
[04:28] <joshgent> hi
[04:28] <joshgent> can someone help me update to Fx 2?
[04:28] <kbrooks> !firefox
[04:28] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[04:28] <silvernode> ainesso:yes gnome
[04:28] <rolfen> nomad: i can try... did some javascript a long time ago
[04:28] <joshgent> i unmounted it
[04:28] <kbrooks> joshgent, see the link i gave you
[04:28] <joshgent> because i was trying to upgrade
[04:29] <nomad> rolfen: do you know how i can make a constructor in an object?
[04:29] <kbrooks> joshgent, *** see the link i gave you ***
[04:29] <kbrooks> !firefox | joshgent
[04:29] <ubotu> joshgent: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[04:29] <doublehp> !tell joshgent about firefox
[04:29] <rolfen> nomad: um uh sorry that is way over my head :)
[04:29] <joshgent> !firefox | joshgent
[04:30] <pyron84> hi together does anyone know how to konfigure a rc from a dvb-tv-usb-tuner ?
[04:30] <danl> !clone
[04:30] <kbrooks> joshgent, dont abuse the bot
[04:30] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[04:30] <joshgent> what bot?
[04:30] <dehabu> hi
[04:30] <kbrooks> joshgent, ubotu
[04:31] <joshgent> all i am trying to do is just install fx2 onto the unit
[04:31] <kbrooks> joshgent:
[04:31] <kbrooks> !firefox | joshgent
[04:31] <ubotu> joshgent: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[04:31] <kbrooks> joshgent, pls follow that link.
[04:31] <nomad> rolfen, okay, i will try it in another chanel ^^
[04:31] <pyron84> hi together does anyone know how to konfigure a rc from a dvb-tv-usb-tuner ?
[04:31] <kbrooks> joshgent, thank you.
[04:32] <joshgent> what happens if you have already removed 1.5?
[04:32] <kbrooks> joshgent, nothing that bad
[04:32] <kbrooks> joshgent, i will not help you any further on that broad subject. if you have specific questions about the wiki page, do feel free to ask
[04:33] <gumpish> Halp! I pulled the DVD ROM drive from my system, it froze, and now when I've restarted it, it isn't finding the drive. :(
[04:33] <kbrooks> "<joshgent> what happens if you have already removed 1.5?": joshgent, nothing that bad
[04:33] <SlimeyPete> gumpish: he pulled it out whilst the system was on?
[04:33] <silvernode> So no one knows how to change the main menu icon?
[04:33] <SlimeyPete> *you
[04:33] <rolfen> pyron84: is it seing the drive in the bios?
[04:33] <gumpish> Yeah, it's a modular drive...
[04:33] <rolfen> oops pyron84 wrong person
[04:33] <rolfen> sorry
[04:34] <SlimeyPete> gumpish: does the bios find the drive?
[04:34] <rolfen> gumpish: is it seing the drive in the bios
[04:34] <gumpish> rolfen:  that's a good question...
[04:34] <danl> dpkg --set-selections < packagelist && apt-get dselect-upgrade       is not working... any ideas why?
[04:34] <numus> is there a way in avant to only have launchers and not taskbar
[04:34] <kbrooks> danl,
[04:34] <silvernode> actually does anyone know where the main menu icon is located cuz then i could just rename my new image to what the current one is
[04:34] <joshgent> kbrooks, when i try to use the Xserver to open firefox it says that the directory isnt found.... but than when i use apt-get install firefox it tells me i have the current version ?
[04:34] <kbrooks> danl, copy and paste the exact command
[04:34] <askand> When I write /usr/sbin/lpadmin -p MP510 -m canonmp510.ppd -v cnij_usb:/dev/usb/lp0 -E it tells me it vant find the ppd file..where should I place it?
[04:34] <kbrooks> danl, including the sudo
[04:35] <kbrooks> danl, into terminal
[04:35] <danl> im in su
[04:35] <danl> so sudo isn't needed
[04:35] <kbrooks> danl, use sudo
[04:35] <kbrooks> danl, stop using su
[04:35] <danl> i was using su, because it wasn't working in sudo
[04:36] <pachu> hi
[04:36] <pyron84> hi together does anyone know how to konfigure a rc from a dvb-tv-usb-tuner ?
[04:36] <kbrooks> danl: the first part of the command before the && works with sudo. you need to add sudo before "apt-get" for it to fully work.
[04:36] <Knowledge> Could someone here shed some light on installing ubuntu on a PS3?
[04:37] <handy> ciao
[04:37] <danl> tried that :-)... it ran through and grabbed updates for currently installed packages and ignore the loaded selections... same as its doing no
[04:37] <danl> *now
[04:38] <kbrooks> danl: are you sure?
[04:38] <danl> yes
[04:38] <danl> and the packagelist file is not empty
[04:38] <handy> ciao
[04:38] <danl> and yes, i am using the same sources.list file
[04:41] <jetscreamer> loaded selections?
[04:41] <MrFeeti1> how do i change my splash screen?
[04:42] <joshgent> i just tried to do apt-get install firefox and it is saying that its already installed? what is the command to make it viewable to the x server?
[04:42] <Russian> Compiz is suddenly not working, what can be the problem
[04:42] <Warden> 
[04:42] <numus> anyone know how to remove taskmanager in avant navigation window
[04:42] <dr_willis> joshgent,  you mean have an icon show up in the menus?
[04:42] <loca|host> hello all
[04:42] <kbrooks> !clone
[04:42] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[04:42] <MrFeeti1> its an applet
[04:42] <loca|host> is there any usb-stick ubuntu installer ?
[04:42] <mangojambo> hi there ... what is the best cluster program to use with ubuntu ? Have something better the openmosix?
[04:43] <onats> hello, what does APIC error on CPU0 mean?
[04:43] <joshgent> no i mean be able to use it in the first place... when i use the menu it says its not found, but if i use the apt-get install firefox it says i have current version
[04:43] <numus> there has to be a way.. i can see other interfaces without it
[04:43] <Warden> RUS help me plz here: http://forum.ubuntu.ru/index.php?board=27.0
[04:43] <loca|host> is there any usb-stick ubuntu installer ?
[04:43] <rolfen> !ru | Warden
[04:43] <ubotu> Warden:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[04:43] <danl> kbrooks: thanks for your help... it seems to be grabbing some OOo stuff right now, so it may be working (even though I only pressed up and enter in the terminal /shrug)
 no i mean be able to use it in the first place... when i use the menu it says its not found, but if i use the apt-get install firefox it says i have current version # yes ...
[04:44] <kbrooks> joshgent, again, for the final time, please read
[04:44] <kbrooks> !firefox | joshgent
[04:44] <ubotu> joshgent: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[04:45] <numus> what is affinity
[04:45] <danl> with the default install firefox should have an icon on the top panel (not even in a menu) in addition to the icon on the internet menu
[04:46] <lexus_nexis> hi
[04:47] <lexus_nexis> I need alittle bit of help deciding something
[04:48] <lexus_nexis> I read on a few websites that the best two casual programming language are python and perl
[04:48] <loca|host> why there's no more wiki on the new ubuntu site ?
[04:48] <PriceChild> !best | lexus_nexis
[04:48] <ubotu> lexus_nexis: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[04:48] <PriceChild> lexus_nexis, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[04:48] <pike__> lexus_nexis: ruby is nice also. if youre just learning id recommend playing with bash and c/c++
[04:48] <lexus_nexis> well for what I want to do I would like to know what language I should pick
[04:49] <qwehnce> is there a list of mirrors available security.ubuntu?
[04:49] <morphir> if you wanna encode a .ogg video to mpeg, what program can I use?
[04:49] <lexus_nexis> I mucked around with bash so I have a fundimental understanding of bash
[04:49] <lexus_nexis> I also dove straight into c
[04:50] <lexus_nexis> but I came out with a splitin headache
[04:50] <vox754> !enter | lexus_nexis
[04:50] <ubotu> lexus_nexis: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:50] <lexus_nexis> sorry
[04:52] <danl> kbrooks:  I think I figured out why it wasn't working, I am an idio
[04:52] <danl> *idiot
[04:53] <danl> rebooting that system now, Does Simple Backup restore all the installed packages and such?
[04:54] <cr4a> hi all, what's up with the ttf-opensymbol update? i'm not an authentication error
[04:54] <cr4a> *i'm getting an authentication error
[04:54] <lexus_nexis> the reason I would like to program is, I would like to really like to have my computer trully under my control. I would like to be able to trully modify things on my desktop that I don't like as much or would like to make better. Sometimes I have some great ideas but there lost to me because I don't know how to implement them.
[04:55] <cr4a> lexus_nexis: same here
[04:55] <lexus_nexis> what would be best situated language I should use
[04:55] <lexus_nexis> ?
[04:56] <vox754> lexus_nexis, go with python. Also you can ask the guys in #ubuntu-offtopic for a more relaxed conversation. Thanks.
[04:56] <Russian> emerald
[04:56] <lexus_nexis> thanks
[04:56] <Russian> !emerald
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emerald - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <onats> !emerald-manager
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emerald-manager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <danl> lexus_nexis: programming is not as difficult as one would imagine. If you are good at logic go out and grab a C++ book (make sure its a *nix one) and give it a go.
[04:56] <uberushaximus> !abuse | onats
[04:56] <ubotu> onats: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:57] <uberushaximus> er..
[04:57] <uberushaximus> !botabuse | onats
[04:57] <ubotu> onats: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[04:57] <onats> me abuse???
[04:57] <uberushaximus> hah
[04:57] <schorsch> hallo wie geht es euch ich bin neu brauche hilfe
[04:57] <cr4a> anyone else having trouble with the ttf-opensymbol update?
[04:57] <onats> are you sure??
[04:57] <fevel> hello
[04:57] <r00tintheb0x> Is anyone else getting GCONFd errors in their /var/log/messages ?
[04:57] <r00tintheb0x> It keeps complaining about permissions on .xml files.
[04:57] <r00tintheb0x> ?
[04:58] <vox754> !enter | r00tintheb0x
[04:58] <ubotu> r00tintheb0x: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:58] <kbrooks> lexus_nexis:
[04:58] <r00tintheb0x> sorry vox754.
[04:58] <cr4a> r00tintheb0x: i see some gconfd chatter, but no errors
[04:58] <kbrooks> lexus_nexis, if i may...
[04:58] <Jack_Sparrow> lexus_nexis: Spend a couple minutes here..  http://www.cs.usfca.edu/~afedosov/qttut/
[04:58] <slimz> whats the desktop effects channel?
[04:58] <r00tintheb0x> strange cr4a , let me pastebin my errors....brb.
[04:58] <onats> too much policing, not giving enough answers
[04:58] <danl> cr4a: my update ran flawlessly
[04:59] <schorsch> speak german
[04:59] <kbrooks> lexus_nexis, the installer on the livecd is written in python
[04:59] <cr4a> danl: no authentication warnings?
[04:59] <danl> none
[04:59] <kbrooks> !de | schorsch
[04:59] <ubotu> schorsch: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:59] <lexus_nexis> ubuntu offtopic is sorta dead
[04:59] <kbrooks> lexus_nexis, ill go in
[04:59] <schorsch> danke
[04:59] <pike__> lexus_nexis: have you considered envy in a bash script?
[05:00] <r00tintheb0x> cr4a, here's the pastebin. Anyone else that'd take a look @ it would be greatly appreciated. http://pastebin.ca/raw/614388
[05:00] <kbrooks> schorsch, np :-)
[05:00] <ChIP83> cambio os, a dopo, ciau
[05:00] <vox754> lexus_nexis, no! It is a fun place. Please be patient.
[05:00] <kbrooks> lexus_nexis, #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:00] <Krisser50> can anyone tell me how i chance my languege from french to danish or english in Ubuntu V6.06?
[05:00] <kbrooks> vox754, too many  ppl are impatient
[05:00] <vox754> kbrooks, thanks for the support
[05:00] <Pici> !locale | Krisser50
[05:00] <ubotu> Krisser50: To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[05:00] <dr_willis> Hurry Up and Learn Patience!!
[05:01] <dr_willis> :)
[05:01] <lexus_nexis> hey PriceChild your in ubuntu forums! You have something like 3000 post or more
[05:01] <kbrooks> vox754, way too many. i am still learning patience :-)
[05:01] <Russian> !resolution
[05:01] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:01] <kitche> kbrooks: hehe work on a distro and you learn patience pretty fast :)
[05:02] <danl> kbrooks:  I may have found part of the problem
[05:02] <kbrooks> kitche, is that a hint to a 16 yr old? :-)
[05:02] <r00tintheb0x> cr4a, you think those may be notifications instead of errors?
[05:02] <Jack_Sparrow> What all is transfered to a different computer when you copy /home from one 7.04 install to another 7.04 install on a second computer.  Wallpapers, menu settings ?
[05:02] <pike__> Jack_Sparrow: yes
[05:02] <danl> if i try to run the command: mysql     it says the package needs to be installed... if i run sudo apt-get install mysql-client-5.0     it says its at the newest version
[05:02] <ProN00b> uhm, i wonder, will the next ubuntu release come with root disk encryption ?
[05:02] <kbrooks> Jack_Sparrow, (your english seems good, but partly awkward...) um, yeah
[05:03] <lexus_nexis> thank you jack_sparrow but I would prefer to design guis for gtk even though I know that QT is more flexable
[05:03] <kbrooks> ProN00b, "come with" meaning?
[05:03] <kduboi1> does anyone know of a command line benchmarking utility for linux?
[05:03] <ProN00b> kbrooks, so i can specify it in the installer and it will be set up for me
[05:03] <Jack_Sparrow> lexus_nexis: Just trying to show you yet another one of the options
[05:04] <onats> danl, i think you should try installing the server?
[05:04] <danl> its installed
[05:04] <Jack_Sparrow> lexus_nexis: No one choice will suit all people... despite what MS says
[05:04] <kbrooks> ProN00b, i don't know. it would be interesting, but the problem with encryption in the installer is very simple (ignoring laws).
[05:04] <danl> well according to apt and synaptic
[05:04] <cr4a> danl: i reloaded the repos and now it's working
[05:04] <kitche> kduboi1: there is couple of ways I just usually use couple of commands together
[05:05] <pike__> lexus_nexis: lol just looked at my post sorry i was in the middle of something. i mean zenity and bash
[05:05] <danl> cr4a: ok
[05:05] <cr4a> r00tintheb0x: oh yeah, those are the same as what i have
[05:05] <kbrooks> ProN00b, users *will* use it to protect too much of their data. and they *will* forget the password.
[05:05] <ProN00b> kbrooks, yeah, but the ones that do deserve it
[05:05] <danl> but i can seem to find the executable
[05:05] <danl> hrmm
[05:05] <Dashmi> I can't get my 2 gig Sd card to fill up to capacity, it stops at roughly half full and won't accept any more files... what's up with that?
[05:05] <bobbob1016> can anyone recommend an alternative to beagle?  preferably one that will integrate with gnome/ubuntu the same way beagle does
[05:06] <fevel> I installed ubuntu on a 6 gb partition and like it, but now I have little room, I would like to resize ntfs partition with vista installed and add space to my ubuntu. I that possible??
[05:06] <kbrooks> bobbob1016, hang on
[05:06] <cyzie> when a vm suspend in vmware, is the memory allocated for the vm temperary free for other resources?
[05:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Dashmi: By chance are there deleted files in the .trash
[05:06] <Dashmi> nope, checked that
[05:06] <r00tintheb0x> Okay cr4a so no need for worry. cr4a could you give me the permissions on your /var/lib/gconf/debian.defaults and /var/lib/gconf/debian.defaults/* please?
[05:07] <danl> is there an apt-get option to reinstall all packages?
[05:07] <kbrooks> cyzie: yes.
[05:07] <z999> I'm using a live CD now... how do I change language? I put the hebrew keyboard layout but I don't know how to change language
[05:07] <cyzie> kbrooks, but when you setup the vm, you predefined an amount of memory for the VM.
[05:07] <cr4a> r00tintheb0x: debian-defaults is drwsr-xr-x root root
[05:08] <Samplex> apt-update takes ages now
[05:08] <cr4a> r00tintheb0x: %gconf-tree.xml is -rw-r--r-- root root
[05:08] <cr4a> r00tintheb0x: gotta go for now, good luck
[05:08] <r00tintheb0x> 644 eh.
[05:08] <SAndre> hi
[05:08] <r00tintheb0x> rws?
[05:08] <r00tintheb0x> thanks
[05:08] <bobbob1016> fevel, it is a little risky, not sure if Vista did anything special to NTFS, XP NTFS can be resized more or less safely.
[05:08] <z999> I'm using a live CD now... how do I change language? I put the hebrew keyboard layout but I don't know how to change language
[05:09] <cotyrothery> Is there a program for ubuntu like daemon
[05:09] <kbrooks> bobbob1016, http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/blogs/desktop_search_beagle_part_1
[05:09] <mdmkolbe> Does ubuntu have any support for connecting to a MS IPSec/L2TP VPN?  (Last time I tried switch to Linux that was the main show stopper.  I hate MS's IPSec just as much as the next guy but having to use it is out of my hands.)
[05:09] <pike__> cotyrothery: daemon tools?
[05:09] <cotyrothery> were do i get them?
[05:09] <pike__> cotyrothery: you dont need it you can mount iso files with one command
[05:09] <bobbob1016> fevel, I haven't tried it, so I don't know anything, I've done it with XP, Vista might say it has a virus or something
[05:09] <pike__> !iso
[05:09] <insomniac190> I am trying to get the Fn button to work on my laptop, but I cant figure it out.
[05:09] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[05:09] <z999> wasn't daemon tools originaly for linuxes?
[05:09] <cotyrothery> pike_: what's the command
[05:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Friends... While I am usually here helping people, I sometimes have a noob in my chair to show them how to get on IRC to ask questions and get answers.  So if you see Me/them post a dumb question.. Please be understanding.. Thanks.
[05:10] <z999> I'm using a live CD now... how do I change language? I put the hebrew keyboard layout but I don't know how to change language
[05:10] <Samplex> is there a mirror that replaces the security.ubuntu.com because is so slow at the moment
[05:10] <kbrooks> Jack_Sparrow, no question is dumb unless not asked,
[05:10] <z999> this is a wise sentence....
[05:10] <z999> deep.......................................
[05:11] <Jack_Sparrow> kbrooks: Agreed, but some I have seen here, make me wonder... Thanks
[05:11] <fevel> is there a tool for resizing ntfs partitions?
[05:11] <Dashmi> Actually the question: "do you think this is a dumb question?" would almost qualify as one then
[05:11] <pike__> fevel: gparted
[05:11] <cotyrothery> pike_: how do i mount a image
[05:11] <bderrly> ntfsresize
[05:12] <bderrly> cotyrothery, what type of image, iso?
[05:12] <cotyrothery> yes
[05:12] <insomniac190> Can anyone help me get the function button on my laptop working?
[05:12] <fevel> pike__: can I do it from my ubuntu
[05:12] <cotyrothery> and i want to be able install the image
[05:12] <bobbob1016> kbrooks, that is about beagle, I want an alternative to beagle
[05:12] <pike__> cotyrothery: sudo sudo mkdir /mnt/something; sudo mount -o loop file.iso /mnt/something
[05:12] <fevel> pike__: or do I have to boot from cd or something
[05:12] <cotyrothery> ok i'll give it a try
[05:12] <pike__> fevel: yes but make sure you unmount it first
[05:12] <kbrooks> bobbob1016, it is not about beagle
[05:13] <bderrly> pike_, that's not right
[05:13] <kbrooks> bobbob1016, you are reading too early
[05:13] <z999> i'm trying to install ubuntu (7.04) on an old laptop but after I click start/install and the logo shows it stops working, just a black screen.... how can I install it?
[05:13] <bobbob1016> kbrooks, they list alternative front-ends
[05:13] <Traveler4> z999: try the alternate cd
[05:13] <urbanehuang> try the alternate cd
[05:13] <polarheat> anyone here ever tried installing Xen hypervisor to an ubuntu OS?
[05:13] <z999> what's the difference?
[05:13] <bderrly> cotyrothery, mount -t iso9660 -o loop file.iso /mnt/
[05:14] <Traveler4> z99: it's text only so it runs better on older hardware
[05:14] <kbrooks> bobbob1016, not so
[05:14] <polarheat> z999: the alternate cd does not automatically assume that you're not using an ancient computer.
[05:14] <pike__> bderrly: type is usually auto in linux these days
[05:14] <bobbob1016> kbrooks, where then?
[05:14] <bderrly> pike_, hmm, guess i'm just verbose then :-P
[05:14] <z999> but I was told that because of the (pretty exotic) hardware on it I should try first the live CD...
[05:14] <helllp> hi, i'm having problems finding certain applications with the default sources.list, i selected the multiverse option in the add/remove programs gui. I'm looking for sunbird  and seamonkey, the mozilla apps.
[05:15] <kbrooks> bobbob1016, read the entire page
[05:15] <kbrooks> bobbob1016, if you have no time for that:
[05:15] <bobbob1016> kbrooks, I did, and the next
[05:15] <danl> i think i am doing something stupid
[05:15] <kbrooks> bobbob1016, type ctrl+f, tracker
[05:15] <insomniac190> does anyone know how to get my function button on my laptop to function.
[05:15] <Jack_Sparrow> z999: what boot options have you tried so far on the 7.04 livecd
[05:15] <polarheat> hi, has anyone here ever tried installing Xen hypervisor to an ubuntu OS?
[05:15] <urbanehuang> ^_^,Bye
[05:16] <Dashmi> I can't get my 2 gig SD card to fill up to capacity, it slows and stops at roughly half full and won't accept any more files... what's up with that?
[05:16] <urbanehuang> exit
[05:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Dashmi: what does gparted say about the flash drive
[05:16] <grim76> Dashmi: look for a .trash directory on the SD card and make sure that is empty.
[05:17] <Dashmi> gparted shows the devise ?dev/sdb as half full
[05:17] <Dashmi> oops
[05:17] <bobbob1016> kbrooks, so I'd have to know what tracker is, since it says "Audio (.mp3, .ogg, .flac, .ape, .mpc, .m4a, .aac, tracker, amiga audio, .wma)" and "However, Fiesty Fawn ships with Tracker, a Meta search tool and I have heard that that it might scrap with Beagle like a pitbull unless you disable the Beagle daemon first. As I am not running that version of Ubuntu yet, can anyone comment on this?"
[05:17] <Dashmi> /dev/sbd
[05:17] <danl> kbrooks:  how bad would this be: cat packages | awk '{print $1}' |  xargs aptitude reinstall
[05:18] <madmax04> hello
[05:19] <Dashmi> so it has stopped at about 700 mb and it won't even accept an empty file
[05:19] <rrr> good morning.
[05:19] <madmax04> just thought i would try this out
[05:19] <rrr> i want to run nautilus as a different user, but "su USERNAME nautilus" doesn't work
[05:19] <rrr> any other way of doing it
[05:19] <Lumiere> can anyone help me with a fresh dapper install on a DL360 that now just boots to "A disk read error occured"
[05:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Dashmi: have you deleted many files on that flash drive that may equal what you now cannot access?
[05:19] <Traveler4> mr: try gku USERNAME nautilus
[05:19] <dr_willis> gksu would be the proper way - not 'su'
[05:19] <dr_willis> i think
[05:19] <Traveler4> sorry gksu
[05:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Lumiere: did you have the cd do a self test for errors
[05:20] <Dashmi> not that I know of... I even used gparted to reformat it
[05:20] <Lumiere> yes, passed
[05:20] <Lumiere> I also checked the md5 before burning said CD
[05:20] <kbrooks> danl: not that bad, but use "install" not reinstall
[05:20] <rrr> so, gksu USERNAME APPLICATION?
[05:20] <dr_willis> of course you may need to use the 'xhost' command to allow oters to get access to your desktop.
[05:20] <Traveler4> yep
[05:20] <insomniac190> xev event tester wont bring up the codes for any of my buttons, anyone know what the problem might be?
[05:20] <dr_willis> rrr,  try gksu --help
[05:20] <Lumiere> Jack_Sparrow: the / of the install is on a HP/Compaq Smart Array 6i raid mirrored
[05:20] <danl> install does nothing
[05:21] <danl> it says they are already installed
[05:21] <madmax04> v
[05:21] <danl> i think it has something to do with my use of Simple Backup
[05:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Lumiere: I would suspect the drive is dirty, You can try burning a new cd at a very slow speed, that sometimes helps
[05:21] <rrr> it does NOT recognize my password
[05:21] <dr_willis> Usage: gksudo [-u <user>]  [options]  <command>
[05:21] <Lumiere> Jack_Sparrow: which drive is dirty?
[05:21] <Jack_Sparrow> !raid | Lumiere
[05:21] <ubotu> Lumiere: Raid and LVM --> very easy guide for alternate CD : http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[05:22] <Lumiere> Jack_Sparrow: ty *reads*
[05:22] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[05:22] <rrr> dr_willis: nor gksu neither gksudo works
[05:22] <dr_willis> rrr,  care to give an actual error message if any?
[05:23] <rrr> GNOME_SUDO_PASS
[05:23] <rrr> sudo: 1 incorrect password attempt
[05:23] <Lumiere> Jack_Sparrow: this is not software raid... it's hardware... the devices are /dev/cciss/c1d0 and /dev/cciss/c0d0
[05:23] <danl> this is going to take a REALLY long time isn't it
[05:24] <dr_willis> rrr,  may want to try using 'sux'   sounds to me like you are entering the wrong password. however.
[05:24] <Traveler4> rrr: you definitely sure you entered the other users password correctly?
[05:24] <brizi> can someone help me with a networking issue?
[05:24] <rrr> dr_willis: i am entering the right pass
[05:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Lumiere: SImple install will not work.. you need to look in the archives for Hardware raid..
[05:24] <pike__> brizi: ask away
[05:25] <brizi> pike...i am trying to get some files off of my desktop which is running winxp...any suggestions?
[05:25] <dr_willis> rrr,  try sshing (ssh -Y localhost ) in as that user then and see if that password works for them
[05:25] <hendrixski> is gnupg a piece of crap or what?  I set up a new key using seahorse and it doesn't seem to work with anything!!!
[05:25] <Traveler4> brizi: how many files? how big?
[05:25] <Jack_Sparrow> brizi: are you running livecd at the moment
[05:25] <brizi> no jack i am on my laptop running dapper
[05:25] <brizi> its about 5g worth of stuff
[05:25] <Traveler4> brizi: do you have an external hard drive?
[05:26] <brizi> i installed samba from synaptic but im not sure how to use it
[05:26] <Jack_Sparrow> brizi: dual boot...  np... how much free hard drive space do you have to work with
[05:26] <brizi> yes i have an external...oh wait duh hahaha
[05:26] <brizi> sorry to have bothered u guys
[05:26] <Jack_Sparrow> ok
[05:26] <Jack_Sparrow> never a bother
[05:27] <tinin> Hi, could someone recommend me a cheap pci graffic card to run compiz?
[05:27] <dr_willis> tinin,  pci? egads....
[05:27] <tinin> ?
[05:27] <SlimeyPete> tinin: any geforce (geforce 5s came in PCI edition IIRC)
[05:27] <dr_willis> I cant even rember the last time i saw a new pci gfx card.
[05:27] <dr_willis> but i havent been looking lately. :)
[05:27] <rrr> dr_willis: one question. if i am logged in as a regular user (no privileges) and i try to run say "sudo apt-get install",,, i cannot even if i enter the password of the first user i created when i installed ubuntu, right
[05:27] <tinin> PCI EXPRESS
[05:28] <Jack_Sparrow> dr_willis: I ran across an isa video card yesterday
[05:28] <SlimeyPete> tinin: oh. You should've said ;p
[05:28] <dr_willis> Jack_Sparrow,  *shudder*
[05:28] <SlimeyPete> tinin: just get the cheapest nvidia you can find.
[05:28] <Jack_Sparrow> dr_willis: and a cyrix processor
[05:28] <tinin> I'm not sure to buy an ATI or Nvidia
[05:28] <dr_willis> tinin,  heh - OK that makes it easier... :) about any of the nvidia cards can handle it..
[05:28] <tinin> ok
[05:28] <dr_willis> tinin,  DONT go with ati
[05:28] <SlimeyPete> tinin: don't buy ATI. The drivers suck.
[05:28] <Jack_Sparrow> tinin: nvidia all the way
[05:28] <younes> who can send me ubuntu 7.04 plzz
[05:29] <rrr> younes: download it from the site
[05:29] <SlimeyPete> the website can.
[05:29] <tinin> what about this one? SVGA 128A512MB XFX 7100GS TC PCX
[05:29] <pike__> tinin: cheap onboard. intel is fine. but for 3d nvidia
[05:29] <Traveler4> younes: download it or request free cds from http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu
[05:29] <vox754> dr_willis, Smygis_ Jack_Sparrow I hope the ati guys are around here so they can take your comments in consideration.
[05:29] <SlimeyPete> tinin: should work. Try googling "7100GS linux" just to be sure.
[05:29] <tinin> I've done
[05:29] <dr_willis> vox754,  they dont care. :) that seems to be the whole issue.
[05:30] <tinin> but if there are results it means there are problems
[05:30] <younes> i have the 5.
[05:30] <younes> i have the 5.04 version
[05:30] <Jack_Sparrow> younes: Big improvements since then
[05:30] <vox754> dr_willis, they will care if they start loosing money. And your comments towards potential buyers should affect them.
[05:30] <Traveler4> younes: you can either upgrade or do a clean install
[05:31] <Smygis_> vox754, w00t?
[05:31] <younes> how?:)
[05:31] <tinin> And about sound, will be enough with the on-board chipset?
[05:31] <mase> does ubuntu 64 support AMD64?
[05:31] <SlimeyPete> mase: yes
[05:31] <Dashmi> well, you're looking at a market that is a fraction of a fraction
[05:31] <vox754> Smygis_, I am terrible sorry. It was a mistake. Go back to sleep.
[05:31] <Traveler4> younes: although I think you have to upgrade progressivly up each version, dont quote me on that
[05:31] <Smygis_> :)
[05:31] <mase> athlon 64?
[05:31] <SlimeyPete> mase: yep
[05:31] <Traveler4> younes: go into the update manager
[05:31] <Frogzoo> Traveler4: it's true
[05:31] <mase> really?
[05:31] <younes> ok
[05:31] <dr_willis> vox754,  it hasent affected them over the last 5+ years....
[05:31] <pike__> mase: no
[05:31] <Lumiere> does anyone know where I could find see BugID: 1374 or using Lilo
[05:32] <mase> pike_: thats what i thought
[05:32] <dr_willis> vox754,  therew the promise that  now that amd owns ati. it will get better.. but so far.. not happening.
[05:32] <Lumiere> the bugid...
[05:32] <rolfen> anyone knows if such a directory entry in the media directory is normal:
[05:32] <rolfen> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-07-08 18:00 floppy0
[05:32] <rolfen> ?--------- ? ?    ?       ?                ? network
[05:32] <rolfen> drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8192 2007-07-10 21:00 sda1
[05:32] <younes> then??
[05:32] <vox754> dr_willis, I don't recall Ubuntu and Compiz and Beryl being around for the last 5 years...
[05:32] <rrr> dr_willis: i can connect to localhost via ssh with the -Y option
[05:32] <pike__> mase: any of the amd chips should work. sempron whatever
[05:32] <pike__> mase: 64 bit ones i mean :)
[05:32] <rrr> dr_willis: what shall i do now. but i noticed i cannot run "nautilus"
[05:33] <mase> ok cool
[05:33] <dr_willis> vox754,  im refering to the general 'level' of ati driver support under linux. I dont give a poo about copwiz and beryl.
[05:33] <Traveler4> younes: is there some kind of option for distribution upgrade?
[05:33] <mase> so whats the advantage of using ubuntu 64 compared to normal 32 bit?
[05:33] <SlimeyPete> not a lot.
[05:33] <younes> it doesnt support it anymore
[05:33] <rolfen> what the hell does this directory entry mean in ls -l :
[05:33] <rolfen> ?--------- ? ?    ?       ?                ? network
[05:33] <Traveler4> mase: it's slightly faster on 64 bit machines
[05:33] <SlimeyPete> mase: it allows you to use a metric ton of RAM
[05:33] <rolfen> (sorry for spamming)
[05:33] <dr_willis> rrr,  so the users password works for ssh but not for sudo, or gksu?
[05:33] <rrr> yes
[05:33] <Jack_Sparrow> dr_willis: glad to see we share the same view on CowPize
[05:34] <dr_willis> Jack_Sparrow,  CowWiz. :)
[05:34] <mase> i dont have much ram..
[05:34] <mase> so that cant be good
[05:34] <rrr> dr_willis: well, i don't think gksudo or sudo will work since i am runningn it from un unprivileged user
[05:34] <dr_willis> rrr,  ahh... not running them as the first user you made?
[05:35] <rrr> yep
[05:35] <brapse> why would syslogd, klogd and dd be consistantly using up a large portion of cpu (40% of a powerfull machine) ?
[05:35] <Traveler4> mase: tbh the advantages arent that much and there are a few things that are buggy in 64bit, you're probably better off with 32bit
[05:35] <rrr> i have created a guest user account and i want to run a command as the main user.. and i cannot
[05:35] <mase> whats buggy
[05:35] <[selfsearcher] > i made a "Gnome with XGL" session but after the reboot it seem it launches Gnome without XGL (and Compiz)
[05:35] <pike__> mase: if you are relatively new to linux id recommend 32 bit. the only real need for 64 bit is if you have single processes that require more that 4 gigs ram
[05:36] <[selfsearcher] > !xgl
[05:36] <bderrly> mase, the main thing you'll notice about 64bit is the lack of flash support
[05:36] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:36] <Russian> Hi guys
[05:36] <pike__> mase: im on a sempron 64 and like most people choose 32 bit
[05:36] <Russian> Cant get emerald working, any help?
[05:36] <chuck> ##free-speech
[05:36] <levander> Does 64 bit also support larger files on the filesystem?
[05:36] <younes> its to old to update
[05:36] <mase> so
[05:36] <mase> on ubuntu can u use flash drives as ram?
[05:36] <Jack_Sparrow> no
[05:37] <dr_willis> rrr,   when it asks for the password. it wants the first users password. I do belive. BUt if your guest account is not in the sudo-ers list/group - then it cant do it.
[05:37] <pike__> mase: yeah as swap or temp but id expect it to crap the drive out pretty fast
[05:37] <Frogzoo> mase: you shouldn't use flash as ram ever tbh
[05:37] <Traveler4> younes: you could mount your /home directory onto a new partition then install a fresh copy of 7.04
[05:37] <mase> i see
[05:37] <mase> so
[05:37] <mase> go with 32bit..
[05:37] <dr_willis> pike_,  at work we were wonderng how harsh Vista is on the flash-drives with its readyboost stuff. :)
[05:37] <Lumiere> Jack_Sparrow: can you help me find the BugID on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesServersHp
[05:38] <younes> i cant download it
[05:38] <Lumiere> I am not sure what 1374 refers to
[05:38] <Traveler4> younes: why not?
[05:38] <levander> dr_willis: There's a group you can add users to to give them sudo priveleges
[05:38] <rrr> dr_willis: but, why can't i run "gksu -u MAINUSER " ?
[05:38] <levander> ?
[05:38] <younes> my internet is to slow for now
[05:38] <Traveler4> younes: where do you live?
[05:38] <younes> belgium
[05:38] <levander> rrr: that has you login as MAINUSER if that's what you want
[05:38] <Frogzoo> suggestions to how to set mount options for removable media ?
[05:38] <paradizelost> hey all. is security.ubuntu.com down?
[05:39] <paradizelost> i can't get the latest kernel headers for dapper server
[05:39] <Frogzoo> paradizelost: ^ topic
[05:39] <Traveler4> younes: you can request free cds off canonical, no shipping charges even https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[05:39] <paradizelost> and as such can't install the headers for vmware
[05:39] <radioman> hey
[05:39] <younes> ok thanks
[05:39] <fevel> how can I unmount mu hd for editing in gparted??
[05:39] <Traveler4> younes: they come from switzerland so they will take a few weeks to deliver
[05:39] <rrr> levander: i don't get you
[05:39] <dr_willis> levander,  yea. i forget the details on that.. since ive rarelymessed with it.
[05:39] <younes> wwhat version do you have?
[05:39] <paradizelost> is there any way to get linux-headers-server-2.6.15-26 ?
[05:39] <Traveler4> younes: 7.04
[05:40] <fevel> it says disagrees with fstab
[05:40] <levander> rrr: "su -u MAINUSER" has you login as MAINUSER, if that's what you want to do
[05:40] <younes> did you download it on a cd or dvd?
[05:40] <paradizelost> i have an install in 2 hours, and need the headers
[05:40] <Traveler4> younes: although right now I am using the evil OS that is w*****s
[05:40] <levander> rrr: but, the user who runs that command has to have the privileges to run su
[05:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Lumiere: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/1374
[05:40] <Traveler4> younes: its a cd
[05:40] <rrr> levander: the user is unprivilege
[05:41] <younes> but its 714 mb and a cd has only a capacity of 700mb
[05:41] <levander> rrr: if it doesn't have the privileges to run su, then it can't run su
[05:41] <younes> i think
[05:41] <rrr> levander: so technically speaking, it is not possible to run a command as another user if you are logged in as an unprivileged user
[05:41] <Traveler4> younes: i'll check that, brb
[05:41] <Jack_Sparrow> younes: the iso will fit
[05:41] <levander> rrr: I think so, yes.  I'm pretty sure.
[05:41] <vox754> younes, millions of people have downloaded and installed it, you do not have to worry about it.
[05:42] <levander> rrr: At least not with sudo or su, you have to have specific privileges to run those.
[05:42] <Jack_Sparrow> younes: PArt of creating the archive an iso adds some overhead which is only used to recreate the cd
[05:42] <rrr> levander: thanks a lot then. and thanks a log dr_willis
[05:42] <younes> i having it really hard with ubuntu its the first time i use it
[05:42] <rrr> levander: any alternative option?
[05:42] <Traveler4> younes: 697 mb
[05:42] <younes> normally i use microsoft
[05:42] <dr_willis> rrr,  you could add that user to the sudo-ers list/group..
[05:42] <younes> that i hate
[05:42] <levander> rrr: I don't think so.  It's kind of the point of the whole user/permissions thing that users can't just run around acting like whoever they want.
[05:42] <dr_willis> rrr,  but whats the point of running one app as another user?
[05:42] <Traveler4> younes: what problems are you having?
[05:42] <levander> rrr: The idea is they have to be themselves.
[05:43] <dr_willis> rrr,  also you 'should' be able to 'ssh -Y localhost THEOTHERUSER' and then run the app.
[05:43] <younes> im not usual with this os
[05:43] <dr_willis> rrr,  what are you trying to run anyway?
[05:43] <rrr> dr_willis: i could login, but i cannot run commands
[05:43] <rrr> nautilus
[05:43] <Traveler4> younes: it takes a while to learn, but it is very easy after a couple of weeks
[05:43] <younes> i dont know nothing about it:d
[05:43] <dr_willis> rrr,  you aint tryiong to run nautilus as root are you?
[05:43] <Jack_Sparrow> younes: Are you in an older Ubuntu trying to burn a newer version?
[05:44] <rrr> i get this error in ssh: X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
[05:44] <rrr> The application 'nautilus' lost its connection to the display localhost:10.0;
[05:44] <rrr> most likely the X server was shut down or you killed/destroyed
[05:44] <rrr> the application.
[05:44] <younes> yip
[05:44] <flame>    rc.local  
[05:44] <rrr> but i was already logged in
[05:44] <levander> younes: Did you get Ubuntu successfully installed?  If so, what is it that you want to do with Ubuntu?
[05:44] <Traveler4> !ru | flame
[05:44] <ubotu> flame:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[05:44] <fevel> I have an error I cant resolve, umount : /media/sda1 mount disagrees with fstab. Can anyone help me?
[05:44] <younes> i cant update the software
[05:44] <levander> rrr: Did you use the -Y option to ssh?
[05:44] <rrr> yep
[05:44] <brizi> how would i get a terminal window to go to a usb drive?
[05:44] <younes> because its an to old version
[05:44] <dr_willis> rrr,  ssh -Y localhost  -l THEOTHERUSER
[05:45] <rrr> let me try that one
[05:45] <Jack_Sparrow> younes: If you have the iso on your pc and you right click it do you have the option of writing it to disk
[05:45] <dr_willis> it works for me here...
[05:45] <younes> yes
[05:45] <dr_willis> Note that it wants the other users password
[05:45] <pike__> dr_willis: i wasnt aware of the readyboost with vista. seems like more ram would be almost as cheap
[05:45] <dr_willis> pike_,  its all about the boot times it seems...
[05:45] <DJ-_-> hi, how can i run the truecrypt gui?
[05:45] <dr_willis> pike_,  take a flash drive some how set it up just for reading at boot.. (sort of a waste seems like)
[05:46] <CVirus> Where can I download the universe packages from .. if I'm not using Ubuntu ?
[05:46] <rrr> dr_willis: same error
[05:46] <levander> CVirus: you can open the same URL's with a web browser that you can open with apt in sources.list.
[05:46] <rolfen> readyboost doesnt make any sense
[05:46] <furenku>  I tried to patch Wine with a midi patch supplied by Drumfix... I got the message "3 out of 7 hunks FAILED" does anybody know if this means the patch will not work, even if 4 Hunks were successful?
[05:46] <dr_willis> rrr,  what error?
[05:47] <levander> CVirus: just use the same URL's that are in sources.list
[05:47] <CVirus> levander: will you give me one as I'm not using ubuntu right now
[05:47] <younes> biggest ubuntu noob ever :)
[05:47] <boguh> hi, with which tool can i test my webcam?
[05:47] <rrr> X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
[05:47] <rrr> The application 'nautilus' lost its connection to the display localhost:10.0;
[05:47] <rrr> most likely the X server was shut down or you killed/destroyed
[05:47] <Traveler4> younes: trust me, there has been much worse!
[05:47] <genesis> hello!!!
[05:47] <levander> CVirus: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[05:47] <perlmonkey> y'ello
[05:47] <dr_willis> rrr,  you sure you used -Y  (try -X) also ,
[05:47] <rrr> in addition, when i log in, i get this error: "/usr/bin/X11/xauth:  error in locking authority file /home/THEUSERNAME/.Xauthority"
[05:47] <younes> im trying to download the iso file now
[05:47] <genesis> alguien habla espaol?
[05:48] <Traveler4> !es | genesis
[05:48] <ubotu> genesis: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:48] <dr_willis> rrr,  thats X security errors kicking in.. as they should. :)  ssh -Y should be getting past those. I thought.
[05:48] <rrr> dr_willis: same error
[05:48] <perlmonkey> hi
[05:48] <CVirus> levander: I can't find libxine1-ffmpeg !
[05:48] <dr_willis> rrr,  for an unsafe 'fix' ya could try 'xhost +' then try the ssh -Y stuff...
[05:48] <brizi> can anyone tell me how i would navigate to a removable drive in a terminal window?
[05:48] <dr_willis> Or it could bge your ssh is set to disable X forwarding by default
[05:49] <dr_willis> brizi,  if its mounted - its in /media somewhere
[05:49] <Borzo> hello
[05:49] <brizi> thanks
[05:49] <rrr> dr_willis: what do i need to run, ididn't get that
[05:49] <levander> CVirus: try this: pool/universe/x/xine-lib/libxine1-ffmpeg_1.1.4-2ubuntu3_i386.deb
[05:49] <brapse> how do i disable bandwidth monotoring via syslog?
[05:49] <dr_willis> rrr,   'xhost +' then  'ssh -Y stuff... '
[05:50] <rrr> same error
[05:50] <dr_willis> rrr,  you alwo realize you can start a 2nd login/screen/X session as a different user. and switch btween them with alt-ctrl-F7 and alt-ctrl-F8 ?
[05:50] <CVirus> levander: thanks alot
[05:50] <Samplex> how long are those servers down?
[05:50] <younes> how do i get a file of 714.6mb on a cd with 700mb:)
[05:50] <genesis> hello traveler4
[05:50] <Traveler4> younes: i think you're download may have been corrupted
[05:50] <agentnoob> anyone whom has used ndiswrapper on compaq presario v6000 care to show me where .inf and .sys are at?
[05:51] <lazz0> younes, just burn it
[05:51] <Traveler4> genesis: hi
[05:51] <rrr> i knew that , but i didn't know i could swtich with alt-ctrl-f7 and 8
[05:51] <levander> younes: it's called overburning, i don't know that basic tools like nautilus have that feature
[05:51] <agentnoob> rrr: ctrl alt backspace is useful too
[05:51] <genesis> whas your name?
[05:51] <genesis> what your name?
[05:51] <rrr> agentnoob: yes, but not in this case
[05:51] <levander> rrr: Ctrl Alt Backspace kills your X-Server
[05:51] <perlmonkey> michael coleoni
[05:52] <agentnoob> levander: yeah but it respawns if configurations are default
[05:52] <ubuntu> hello
[05:52] <younes> its gonna take a day or 2 to download it :)
[05:52] <agentnoob> ubuntu: hiya
[05:52] <ubuntu> this is my first time to use this software
[05:52] <Traveler4> genesis: this channel is for support only
[05:52] <levander> agentnoob: I just don't want him hitting that and being surprised as hell when all his windows disappear.
[05:52] <agentnoob> ubuntu: do /nick name plz
[05:52] <ubuntu> anyone one want to help me?
[05:52] <genesis> i not understed
[05:53] <beatnik> do you know how can i burn any *.iso files?
[05:53] <younes> now it says 49h
[05:53] <rrr> levander: i already knew that. you restart gnome
[05:53] <levander> ubuntu: type this "/nick <a nick>"
[05:53] <younes> lol
[05:53] <agentnoob> levander: so just relogin :)
[05:53] <Traveler4> genesis: this is only for people who need help using ubuntu
[05:53] <radioman> ..it is posible to change background color in xchat where is channels and nick lists?
[05:53] <piksi> can someone explain what on earth can be the problem with wpa_supplicant: http://pastebin.com/m602e48d9, i've struggled with this for some time already
[05:53] <jian> OK  I change my nick
[05:53] <dr_willis> radioman,  yes. I have a black background for my Channel Window.
[05:53] <hendrixski> !pinentry
[05:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pinentry - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:53] <draeath> What was up with security.ubuntu.com last night? The domain hosting the wiki was having issues too
[05:53] <beatnik> do you know how can i burn any *.iso files?
[05:54] <agentnoob> radioman: grab the sides and drag them open if your on 6.06 (dapper) then all settings are up top
[05:54] <levander> jian: What is it you wanna do with Ubuntu?  Do you have a goal in mind?
[05:54] <Traveler4> beatnik: what OS are you using?
[05:54] <piksi> radioman: yes, switch to irssi ;-)
[05:54] <dr_willis> beatnik,  i use k3b. theres other iso burning programs for linux also.
[05:54] <vox754> draeath, read the topic
[05:54] <Pici> !burn | beatnik
[05:54] <ubotu> beatnik: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[05:54] <jian> I don't know anything about ubuntu
[05:54] <beatnik> isnt k3b for KDE?
[05:54] <beatnik> i use gnome
[05:54] <jian> this is first time
[05:54] <rrr> dr_willis and levander, thanks a log for your help.
[05:54] <yrth> hello, I need some help installing something on wine (RipIt4Me)
[05:54] <dr_willis> beatnik,  you can install kde apps under gnome.. and visa-versa
[05:54] <rrr> a lot!
[05:54] <agentnoob> hey ubotu forgot xfburn!
[05:54] <dr_willis> !info xfburn
[05:55] <ubotu> xfburn: CD burning tool for Xfce. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.0-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 81 kB, installed size 528 kB
[05:55] <levander> jian: Ubuntu isn't really anything, it's just another operating system like Windows.  Only Ubuntu is free.
[05:55] <Traveler4> jian: what do you need help doing?
[05:55] <starz> xfburn?
[05:55] <starz> no we've not forgotten about oit
[05:55] <radioman> ..what to drag exactly? ;/
[05:55] <starz> its not good enough for a production line burn tool
[05:55] <levander> jian: If you don't know what to do, just use Ubuntu like you would Windows.  Stuff will come up later that interests you.
[05:55] <jian> are you American?
[05:55] <starz> k3b is the only real linux option besides neroforlinux
[05:55] <draeath> vox754: lol, perfect timing, I just installed and <need> the packages :P
[05:55] <jian> thank you
[05:55] <rolfen> I think GNU is not good for the future of Linux
[05:55] <dr_willis> ive found k3b better then the nerolinux stuff. :)
[05:55] <jian> my English is not very well
[05:55] <piksi> no, you've forgotten cdrtools ;->
[05:56] <starz> jian: you dont need good english
[05:56] <piksi> rolfen: why is that?
[05:56] <rolfen> There needs to be some minimal revenue for linux developpers
[05:56] <levander> rolfen: This isn't a religion channel.
[05:56] <draeath> vox754: do we know anything specific? failure or malicious?
[05:56] <starz> the thing you need the most in this deal is good patience
[05:56] <yrth> problems installing ripit4me on wine, can anybody help?
[05:56] <Traveler4> rolfen: well, the GNU project has done great things for FOSS
[05:56] <starz> curiosity and google.com and ubuntuforums.org and these channels
[05:56] <piksi> rolfen: minimal revenue, oh come on.
[05:56] <vox754> draeath, these things happen... maintenance?
[05:56] <levander> rolfen: It's starting to look like you're trolling.
[05:56] <starz> yrth: dont install that
[05:56] <dr_willis> rolfen,   there are companies that pay developers for such things...    google for it. :)
[05:56] <starz> google for the dvddecryptor guide
[05:56] <jian> without good English ,how I can express my opinion accurately
[05:56] <younes> doesnt there exist a smaller version then 714.6mb like a zip file or something
[05:56] <yrth> starz, why is that?
[05:56] <starz> jian: you do the best you can
[05:57] <vox754> !english | jian
[05:57] <ubotu> jian: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[05:57] <rolfen> well i was just thinking out loud
[05:57] <starz> yrth: most of those programs arnt worth using
[05:57] <dr_willis> younes,  i have no propblems burning that 714mb iso file to my 700mb cd's
[05:57] <jian> thanks
[05:57] <agentnoob> jian: what opinion?
[05:57] <piksi> and once again in a while:
[05:57] <younes> ok then ill give it a try
[05:57] <piksi> can someone explain what on earth can be the problem with wpa_supplicant: http://pastebin.com/m602e48d9, i've struggled with this for some time already..
[05:57] <rolfen> but I think that linux based oses need some revenue to be competitive
[05:57] <starz> jian: so what do you normally do with your computer?
[05:57] <starz> besides surf porn :P
[05:57] <dr_willis> younes,  thats what people have been saying for the last few min.. i belive. :)
[05:57] <yrth> starz, I don't know how to use anything else... been using that for a long time (on windows)
[05:57] <Xbehave> and better
[05:57] <Traveler4> rolfen: what do you mean competitive?
[05:57] <jian> chatting
[05:57] <younes> how long does it take to download it?
[05:57] <kitche> !offtopic
[05:57] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:57] <jian> programming
[05:58] <starz> yrth: i gotcha you can also go to the wine webby
[05:58] <agentnoob> rolfen:try ubuntu-offtopic
[05:58] <dr_willis> rolfen,  i dont think they do..  the OS is the 'road' open to all. :) the $$ is made by using the road.
[05:58] <starz> or #winehq
[05:58] <starz> gotcha jian
[05:58] <starz> what do you program in?
[05:58] <rolfen> Traveler4: i mean to iron out all the bugs... there are so many bugs
[05:58] <Traveler4> rolfen: things are going pretty well as they are
[05:58] <jian> I majoring in Software Engineering
[05:58] <starz> kvirc,xchat,gaim/pidgin,amsn,skype
[05:58] <yrth> starz, if you know any other software that is fairly easy to use and does the same thing, I am more than happy to try something new
[05:58] <starz> and as for programming
[05:59] <Traveler4> rolfen: you should continue your thoughts in the #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[05:59] <starz> theres like a billion tools
[05:59] <levander> jian: There are lots of development tools on Ubuntu.  What language are you writing in for school?
[05:59] <dr_willis> a Bug can exist in windows.. and stay around for ages.. because all the  programers are working on new eyecandy...  -
[05:59] <starz> yrth: just to rip dvds?
[05:59] <dr_willis> :)
[05:59] <rolfen> Traveler4: ok :)
[05:59] <younes> who has a good burner for me plzz
[05:59] <starz> http://www.mrbass.org/dvdrip/
[05:59] <jian> C++ and java
[05:59] <vox754> jian, since you aren't asking for help, go to #ubuntu-offtopic you can chat there about anything you want.
[05:59] <starz> younes: sudo aptitude install k3b
[05:59] <starz> :)
[05:59] <jian> I don't konw how to ask
[06:00] <starz> !ask
[06:00] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:00] <younes> do you have a link
[06:00] <yrth> starz, I'd like to get rid of those unreferenced vobs as well, that's why I like ripit4me
[06:00] <levander> jian: There's g++ (front end for gcc) for C++ and Sun's JDK in the Canonical repositories.
[06:00] <starz> younes: open a terminal
[06:00] <jian> there are so many problems I need to solve
[06:00] <younes> ok
[06:00] <levander> jian: I'd start reading about those two.
[06:00] <starz> sudo aptitude install k3b
[06:00] <hendrixski> !paste
[06:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:00] <levander> jian: Does your school use UNIX machines for you to program on?  Is their a compiler your programs have to compile with for school?
[06:00] <jian> thanks levander
[06:01] <jian> no
[06:01] <starz> jian the way we do it for the most part is when things dont work we look at the errors and make notes of them
[06:01] <Thang> hi, please help me
[06:01] <jian> next year may be
[06:01] <starz> in linux the errors are very specific - and you can usually google a good answer
[06:01] <Traveler4> !ask | Thang
[06:01] <ubotu> Thang: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:01] <hendrixski> hmm... it's actually telling me I have no pinentry ... umm.. here  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29484/
[06:01] <levander> jian: Well, what do you urn in as programs at school?
[06:01] <Thang> I am using ATI. it works really great
[06:01] <vox754> levander, if you want to help jian with programming stuff, you may move to #ubuntu-programming , a less flooded channel.
[06:01] <Thang> but after installing Compiz
[06:01] <Thang> for a day
[06:01] <younes> then?
[06:01] <hendrixski> oops
[06:01] <fevel> how do I check a ntfs partition for errors
[06:01] <fevel> or defrag
[06:01] <starz> !ntfstools
[06:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfstools - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:01] <Thang> now the picture and text are not good
[06:01] <starz> !ntfsutils
[06:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfsutils - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:01] <jian> what do you urn in as programs at school?
[06:01] <starz> gah
[06:01] <jian> ????
[06:02] <Traveler4> Thang, in what way? resolution too low, colors wrong?
[06:02] <rolfen> dr_willis: IMHO bugs will exist in Linux because there is nobody free to fix them... because there is not enough monetary incentive... just my humble opinion... and sorry i'm off to ubuntu-offtopic :)
[06:02] <starz> i think its ntfsutils fevel
[06:02] <starz> and fsck or so
[06:02] <mavsman4457> I'm trying to compile something but
[06:02] <levander> vox754: you need to chill out, are you a mod?
[06:02] <Thang> too low?
[06:02] <mavsman4457> I got errors
[06:02] <mavsman4457> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29485/
[06:02] <starz> mavsman4457: lets look
[06:02] <Traveler4> Thang: text and icons look too big
[06:02] <fevel> starz: im trying to resize a ntfs partition of windows vista from ubuntu
[06:02] <Thang> but it worked really good
[06:02] <fevel> starz: I want more space for ubuntu
[06:02] <Thang> now I see many texts at the same line :(
[06:02] <starz> fevel try google: resize vista partition
[06:02] <mavsman4457> I just need some clarification on where to look in the text to see what i need
[06:03] <yrth> starz, I want also to remove the unreferenced material from the dvd
[06:03] <starz> but i think the installer can do it :)
[06:03] <jian> I can't print Chinese char in this system
[06:03] <Pici> mavsman4457: You need the dev packages for gtk+-2
[06:03] <CVirus> levander: sorry but where is libmad0 ?
[06:03] <starz> yrth: you can edit what to put in - take out extras and whatnot
[06:03] <younes> need a burner here for ubuntu 5.04
[06:03] <Traveler4> Thang: can you take a screenshot? Application>Accessories>Screenshot
[06:03] <mavsman4457> Pici: I tried typing in GTK at the terminal but it didn't do anything
[06:03] <Thang> yes I did
[06:03] <starz> ah mavsman4457 its actually quite clear
[06:03] <levander> CVirus: MPEG Audio Decoder, apparently
[06:03] <vox754> levander, It is quite crowded to be talking about random subjects. I hope you understand.
[06:04] <jian> so interesting
[06:04] <Thang> how can I send you?
[06:04] <levander> vox754: Are you a mod or not?
[06:04] <Pici> mavsman4457: libgtk2.0-dev
[06:04] <mavsman4457> Pici: should I do gtk+-2?
[06:04] <Traveler4> Thang upload it to imageshack.us
[06:04] <CVirus> levander: huh ?
[06:04] <perlmonkey> my nvidia card is showing black & white only on TV out ;-(
[06:04] <Thang> ok
[06:04] <jian> an oppotunity to improve my English
[06:04] <anachronik> hey jian
[06:04] <CVirus> levander: in which component that is ?
[06:04] <younes> need help over here
[06:04] <starz> mavsman4457 - first your on a ps3? sweet!
[06:04] <jian> hey anachronik
[06:04] <vox754> levander, ah, no, of course I'm not a moderator. But don't ignore me because of that! he he
[06:04] <anachronik> if you want to improve languages just get skype
[06:04] <starz> younes: with?
[06:04] <Thang> please wait a minute
[06:04] <younes> a burner
[06:04] <mavsman4457> starz: haha yah it's awesome
[06:04] <levander> CVirus: That's what "apt-cache show" says about libmad
[06:04] <younes> i need one
[06:05] <jian> here is ok
[06:05] <younes> for the 7.04 version
[06:05] <mavsman4457> Pici: that gave me command not found
[06:05] <starz> build-essential autoconf automake1.4
[06:05] <starz> put those in mavsman4457
[06:05] <yrth> hm... starz, I tried to do it once- manually - and messed up the entire dvd... wouldn't play anymore lol... so what do you suggest other than ripti4me with dvdDecrypter and DVDshrink
[06:05] <SAndre> back
[06:05] <CVirus> levander: which component does it say ?
[06:05] <starz> younes:
[06:05] <Pici> mavsman4457: its not a command, its a package.
[06:05] <perlmonkey> black and white
[06:05] <levander> CVirus: it says main
[06:05] <younes> yes
[06:05] <starz> look i put the command for a burner.
[06:05] <starz> you need k3b
[06:05] <starz> bad.
[06:05] <starz> sudo aptitude install k3b
[06:05] <mavsman4457> starz: I already have build-essential
[06:05] <younes> whats that
[06:05] <levander> jian: I'd try to use whatever development tools you use at school on your new Ubuntu box.
[06:06] <levander> jian: Or, just browse the web and get used to your new box.
[06:06] <starz> then when its installed it will show up in sound + multimedia
[06:06] <jian> where are you from?
[06:06] <Thang> uploading...
[06:06] <Pici> mavsman4457: Also, snes9express is in the ubuntu software repositories, there shouldnt be a need to compile it...
[06:06] <Pici> !offtopic | jian
[06:06] <ubotu> jian: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:06] <starz> younes: if you ask for a burner and someone recommends a package directly to you you can be assured its a burner
[06:06] <vox754> !zh
[06:06] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[06:06] <starz> in fact its the only decent burner in linux
[06:06] <younes> ok
[06:06] <Lumiere> can anyone here help me with this wiki page? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesServersHp
[06:06] <younes> what do i have to do
[06:06] <starz> i promise you i'm steering you proper :)
[06:06] <mavsman4457> Pici I thought I would need to compile since I am on a PPC
[06:06] <starz> sudo aptitude install k3b    <<---- type that in a terminal
[06:06] <Lumiere> I am trying to figure out where that bugid comes from
[06:06] <younes> ok
[06:06] <starz> applications > accessories > terminal
[06:06] <starz> :)
[06:07] <viden>  I just loaded beryl through the ubuntu repository and now i have no title bars on any window, also if i do a sudo metacity --replace my machine locks up.  please help
[06:07] <starz> mavsman4457: btw is that package not in the repo alreadh?
[06:07] <starz> viden: gotcha
[06:07] <gutano> younes: I'm no fan of kde, but k3b is pretty well known to be one of the best (if not the best) burning softwares for linux
[06:07] <starz> are you in gnome?
[06:07] <Thang> here you are http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotle5.png
[06:07] <pike__> younes: turn your sound all the way up when its burning there is a very faint sound upon completion.
[06:07] <Pici> viden: 1) try it without sudo. 2) the beryl channel is #ubuntu-effects
[06:07] <perlmonkey> no colours
[06:07] <yrth> did you see what I wrote starz?
[06:07] <kitche> viden: you probably loaded beryl wrong to start beryl it's beryl-manager
[06:07] <starz> gutano: i dont run kde either - just k3b is the best burning soft for nix i know
[06:07] <starz> yrth: no say again??
[06:08] <lazz0> any idea how to correct the contrast in ubuntu, or do i have to play with the monitor
[06:08] <Thang> @Traveler4, can you see my pix_
[06:08] <mavsman4457> starz: I think it is but I didn't check
[06:08] <perlmonkey> wheres me colours
[06:08] <starz> mavsman4457: always check repo first
[06:08] <starz> :P
[06:08] <yrth> hm... starz, I tried to do it once- manually - and messed up the entire dvd... wouldn't play anymore lol... so what do you suggest other than ripti4me with dvdDecrypter and DVDshrink
[06:08] <Traveler4> Thang: yeah, thats messed up
[06:08] <Thang> i don't know why
[06:08] <Thang> i just happen :(
[06:08] <Traveler4> Thang: does it do that in every app?
[06:08] <mavsman4457> starz: you mean just by typing in what I want at the terminal?
[06:08] <starz> dvd shrink is a pos
[06:08] <Thang> yeah in every app
[06:08] <mhz`> anyone know what codecs should be installed to watch the typical movies? avi/mpg/mpeg/etc
[06:08] <mhz`> ?
[06:08] <CVirus> levander: still can't find it
[06:08] <levander> CVirus: can't find what?
[06:09] <jian> What's OP means?
[06:09] <starz> if your gonna shrink dvds stick to windows for that particular activity and i cant tell you to steal css but its the only thing worth using.
[06:09] <vox754> !mp3 | mhz`
[06:09] <CVirus> levander: libmad0
[06:09] <ubotu> mhz`: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:09] <dr_willis> mhz`,  there is no typical movie. :)
[06:09] <levander> CVirus: oh, try pool/main/libm/libmad/libmad0_0.15.1b-2.1_i386.deb
[06:09] <younes> nothing has installed
[06:09] <mhz`> heh
[06:09] <starz> jian: that means powerful person
[06:09] <viden> pico:  no one there knows how to fix it so asking a broader audience, and without sudo i get an error message.  Kitche:  it is loaded correctly and beryl-manager is already running in my bar
[06:09] <Ulteo> Hello! Can anyone tell me if I fried my motherboard?
[06:09] <kitche> mhz`: nothing for .avi since it's just a container the video in the avi needs a codec though which is hard to find out
[06:09] <starz> also means that they can and are required to keep order
[06:09] <perlmonkey> (nvidia-settings:5181): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[06:09] <dr_willis> mhz`,  theres the cocec packs that install most all the neded codecs. :) however.
[06:09] <CVirus> levander: thanks
[06:09] <starz> perhaves vox754 can show u :P
[06:09] <yrth> thanks starz
[06:09] <pike__> lazz0: xgamma might be a command to look at though i admit im not really sure.  xgamma -rgamma 4 is very pretty ;p
[06:09] <mhz`> got a name for that, willis?
[06:09] <mhz`> yeah, i'm having trouble watching mpg
[06:09] <levander> CVirus: I'm taking off.  This channel has people in here asking stupid questions, then bitching about others asking stupid questions.  Not my scene.
[06:09] <starz> viden:
[06:09] <mhz`> sound but no video
[06:09] <cotyrothery> ok i have a iso on my desktop that i need mounted it is called mw.iso so what do i put in command to mount this iso
[06:09] <Traveler4> Thang:i've never seen a problem like that before. I'm going to guess that it's a driver issue
[06:09] <perlmonkey> (nvidia-settings:5181): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[06:09] <Thang> what should I do traveler4
[06:09] <gutano> starz: was just supporting your recomendation =D
[06:09] <starz> kill beryl 100%
[06:09] <dr_willis> !w32codecs
[06:10] <Ulteo> Hello! Can anyone tell me if I fried my motherboard?
[06:10] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[06:10] <starz> then start that beryl-manager in a terminal
[06:10] <mhz`> word
[06:10] <mhz`> merci
[06:10] <starz> then tell it to go to beryl with the manager
[06:10] <perlmonkey> (nvidia-settings:5181): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[06:10] <_markt> wow, this room is a zoo during the day
[06:10] <Traveler4> Ulteo: from here even I can smell it
[06:10] <starz> that will tell us what we need to know to fix it ^^
[06:10] <starz> gutano: yey!
[06:10] <Ulteo> Hello! Can anyone tell me if I fried my motherboard? It starts up, the hard drive light goes on for <1 second, and there is no video. But it starts up!
[06:10] <sn0> perlmonkey its a gui app, if you are running it from the terminal
[06:10] <jian> I know kick, ban,ignore , but I don't know Op
[06:10] <viden> starz:  trying ... this will probably lock my machine up, but here geos
[06:10] <younes> crap
[06:10] <perlmonkey> sn0: many thanks
[06:10] <starz> seveas is doing for ubuntu now too?
[06:10] <sn0> perlmonkey please do not repeat yourself over and over
[06:10] <starz> viden: carefully :P
[06:10] <perlmonkey> sn0: sorry, I was desperate
[06:10] <younes> im getting a headake
[06:10] <Thang> @Traveler4: are you still there?
[06:11] <viden> starz:  so just sodo killall beryl-manager ?
[06:11] <starz> remember you can do control+alt+f1 etc to get to terminal
[06:11] <cotyrothery> I need to mount a iso image on my desktop its called mw.iso how would i mount it
[06:11] <pike__> starz: too? what distro was his contribing to before?
[06:11] <dr_willis> !iso
[06:11] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[06:11] <sn0> perlmonkey your attitude to how you approach getting help can decide how well you get helped
[06:11] <starz> viden: no just close that beryl manager and open from terminal
[06:11] <starz> :)
[06:11] <viden> k
[06:11] <Ulteo> Anyone?
[06:11] <Traveler4> I don;t know what to do tbh, try asking on www.ubuntuforums.org
[06:11] <starz> pike_: ?
[06:11] <gus3> Is something up with security.ubuntu.com?  I'm trying to apt get for samba and I"m getting timeouts.
[06:11] <Pici> !anyone | Ulteo
[06:11] <ubotu> Ulteo: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:11] <Thang> ok thanks :(
[06:11] <starz> ah debian pure
[06:11] <sn0> tea \o>
[06:11] <Ulteo> Hello! Can anyone tell me if I fried my motherboard? It starts up, the hard drive light goes on for <1 second, and there is no video. But it starts up!
[06:11] <viden> starz:  it opens back up, no errors and still no title bars
[06:11] <dr_willis> gus3,  seems to be some server issues the last few days
[06:12] <gus3> thanks DR.
[06:12] <starz> ok
[06:12] <starz> now open another terminal
[06:12] <dr_willis> Ulteo,  check your monitor cables yet? does it 'post'/beep?
[06:12] <Traveler4> Ulteo: i think everone has seen your question!
[06:12] <starz> first your using ati card right? what card?
[06:12] <gus3> Guess I'll mount the CD back in. :)
[06:12] <tonyo> hi. i installed iSecondLife a month ago... now, i want to remove it... anyone knoww to to remove it?
[06:12] <vox754> Ulteo, the short answer is yes. The long answer is "how do we know?, we don't have your motherboard."
[06:12] <dr_willis> tonyo,  and how did you install it?
[06:12] <starz> second right click on the ruby and see if the window decorations are on emerald
[06:12] <viden> starz:  using an nvidia quadro fx550 .. newest drivers installed
[06:12] <starz> if not: sudo apt-get install emerald-themes
[06:12] <starz> nvidia ooooooo nice
[06:12] <dr_willis> tonyo,  last i tried SecondLive - it i installed it for my single user. in his home dir.
[06:13] <starz> one sec then
[06:13] <Ulteo> vox754, is there any way to fix it?
[06:13] <cotyrothery> so to mount this iso i need to put in sudo mount -o loop mw.iso /home/cotyrothery/Desktop/mw.iso
[06:13] <tonyo> dr_willis, i installed it on my desktop
[06:13] <Ulteo> vox754, I don't see any burn marks.
[06:13] <dr_willis> cotyrothery,  not quite...
[06:13] <starz> yeah on this box i didnt need anything special
[06:13] <dr_willis> tonyo,  specific.. yet vague... well done...
[06:13] <pike__> cotyrothery: you need to mount it to a directory the last arg should be some dir
[06:13] <viden> starz:  seems my windows decorator is still set to metacity with no other options
[06:13] <starz> bingo
[06:13] <PietSheep> hi @all - looking for a hint using alpine with password-file ..... anyone to help ?
[06:14] <cotyrothery> pike_: ?
[06:14] <starz> viden: then you need emerald-themes package
[06:14] <starz> :)
[06:14] <dr_willis> tonyo,  you downloaded the secondlife file , and uncompressed it to a directory on the desktop? or what.
[06:14] <vox754> Ulteo, that was a sarcasm. What I really meant is that is not an Ubuntu-related question. Please ask your local computer guy.
[06:14] <pike__> cotyrothery: mount thisfile.iso thisdirectory/
[06:14] <starz> beryl: No GLXFBConfig for depth 32 <<-- oya i got this error b/c i didnt enable something let me get it
[06:14] <tonyo> dr_willis, wait... i got the installation files from the isecondlife website and unpacked them on my laptop desktop... the files were installed on my desktop
[06:14] <Glave2> is it possible to add to an existing raid5 array in newer kernels now?
[06:14] <viden> trying now
[06:14] <dr_willis> tonyo,  since your user installed them to their own home dir.. youjust delete the installed dir/files.
[06:15] <cotyrothery> pike_: the image is mw.iso on my desktop
[06:15] <jughead> what's the easiest way to see how much free hard drive space I have in kubuntu?
[06:15] <dr_willis> jughead,  df -h
[06:15] <dr_willis> :)
[06:15] <tonyo> dr_willis, when i do that, there's an error message sayijng i have no permission to do so... that i am not the owner or something
[06:15] <younes> startz: what whas that name again
[06:15] <pike__> cotyrothery: regardless of where the image is.  you can mount it to /mnt or any directory you create
[06:15] <cotyrothery> can somone juet give me an exact thing to put in terminal
[06:15] <jughead> thanks dr_willis
[06:15] <dr_willis> for fun use 'watch df -h' and put it in a little terminal window to the side.. for autoupdating sizes. :)
[06:15] <valeria> hola
[06:16] <starz> youlmouth: of what?
[06:16] <dr_willis> tonyo,  then either you did some ofthe work as root. and have root permissions on files. or some other user permissions.
[06:16] <younes> that burner
[06:16] <starz> k3b
[06:16] <starz> its in now if you installed how i told you to
[06:16] <tonyo> dr_willis, how do i do that?
[06:16] <dr_willis> tonyo,  use the shell, and check out the permissions, and if needed remove the files with root priiviliges
[06:16] <younes> i forgot the name
[06:16] <pike__> cotyrothery: sudo mount -o loop ~/Desktop/mw.iso /media/cdrom
[06:16] <Yaakov> Hello!  I installed fiesty on an IBM T30 with an Intersil chipset on it.  The machine had been running Kubuntu with no issues, however, I know have two wireless interfaces (wlan1 and wifi0) and unless I manually run dhclient I cannot get an address.  Does anyone revognize this problem?
[06:17] <tonyo> dr_willis, i'm sorry but i don't know how to do that
[06:17] <pike__> !mount | cotyrothery read this itll help
[06:17] <ubotu> cotyrothery read this itll help: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[06:17] <dr_willis> tonyo,  easy way.. install 'mc' use 'sudo mc' and see what files are where.. and delte the things.
[06:17] <jabon> #ubuntu-es
[06:17] <starz> viden:Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True" ////     Option "DisableGLXRootClipping" "True"
[06:17] <starz>   <<-- add those two options to xorg.conf
[06:18] <dthom> how can i list group permissions?
[06:18] <dr_willis> tonyo,  or spend a hr or so learnign the shell basics at the various tutorial sites.
[06:18] <starz> ls -l /path/to/dir/or/file dthom
[06:18] <tonyo> thanks dr_willis !
[06:18] <dr_willis> !info mc
[06:18] <cotyrothery> pike_: i got an error saying that mw.iso no such directory
[06:18] <ubotu> mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-7ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2057 kB, installed size 5944 kB
[06:18] <starz> or -la if you want hidden or lah if you want hidden and human readable sizes
[06:18] <dr_willis> bbl ya all
[06:19] <vox754> Yaakov, read "man interfaces" in case you need to edit the rules in /etc/network/interfaces file
[06:19] <pike__> cotyrothery: paste your exact command you typed
[06:19] <starz> ok brb gonna go get be berylified :>
[06:19] <Yaakov> vox754: I will look, thanks.
[06:19] <dthom> I need to find the permissions for the group www-data
[06:19] <cotyrothery> pike_: same one you gave me
[06:19] <dthom> not sure how to us ls with tah
[06:20] <viden> so after installing emerald themes i got a lockup and had to reboot again ... any help ?
[06:20] <radioman> does Cinelerra work on ubuntu 7.04 ?
[06:20] <Yaakov> vox754: Do you know of a way I can "uninstall" the wireless hardware driver and have it re-detect?
[06:20] <cotyrothery> pike_: nevermind i got it to mount
[06:21] <kbrooks> !test
[06:21] <ubotu> failed
[06:21] <Yaakov> vox754: If I plug in a PC Card NIC, it works like a charm.
[06:21] <starz> yey!
[06:21] <starz> beryl working flawlessly as per usual :>
[06:21] <vox754> Yaakov, the hardware drivers are kernel modules, so check out the "lsmod | less" listings.
[06:21] <jabon> #ubuntu-es
[06:22] <vox754> !blacklist | Yaakov you can blacklist it.
[06:22] <vide1> this is getting really old ...
[06:22] <dthom> so what would be the command to list the group permissions for www-data?
[06:24] <lee_p> if im building a deb package is there a way to package a file structure without building any thing. like i want to put a wallpaper in the wallpaper directory with a deb package???
[06:25] <agentnoob> how do I get applications>system>network to list wireless?
[06:25] <vide1> can someone please help me, after installing beryl my machine has just gone to crap.  My title bars are gone and any change i make through beryl-manager seems to hard lock my machine.  I am running an nvidia quadro fx550 with the newest drivers.  please help
[06:25] <vox754> dthom, "ls -l <directory or file name>"
[06:26] <dan_> !list
[06:26] <Pici> !netsplit
[06:26] <dthom> ok, i did that and it listed the permissions for all the files in the dir
[06:26] <dan_> !netsplit
[06:26] <Pici> :/ ubotu is on the other side of the netsplit.
[06:27] <vide1> ha
[06:27] <neztiti> hi guys- how 2 get bin files to work
[06:27] <sokol_88> hi there~!
[06:27] <Pici> neztiti: chmod +x filename.bin then ./filename.bin
[06:27] <sokol_88> just wanna sk some questions!
[06:28] <dthom> I added a user to www-data group, and they cannot write to /var/www
[06:28] <vox754> sokol_88, wait, there is a netsplit
[06:28] <sokol_88> about setupping ADSL connection on ubuntu 7.04 beta!
[06:28] <Sneakyfox> Install problems: Get the boot menu, select Install, and wait. The Ubuntu logo pops up with the progress bar. Suddenly the install exits and I'm left at a CLI with the following text: "cant access tty; job control turned off". Checked /casper.log and it says "mounting /dev/sda1 on /cdrom failed: no such device" over and over. What to do?
[06:28] <pike__> sokol_88: ask away
[06:29] <josh____> anybody know when security.ubuntu.com will be up again?
[06:29] <sokol_88> i'm a windows user, but wanna to install ubuntu!
[06:29] <dthom> I thought any user in the www-data group had full access to /var/www    is this not true?
[06:30] <Yaakov> vox754: *sigh*  Got dumped.
[06:30] <sokol_88> how to set up connection  with ADSL modem on ubuntu?
[06:30] <vox754> Yaakov, yep, funny
[06:30] <pike__> sokol_88: normally you just login to the dsl router but if all you have is a modem..
[06:30] <pike__> !pppoe | sokol_88
[06:30] <Traveler4> aww christel, thank you
[06:30] <Pici> sokol_88: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[06:30] <sokol_88> i have a USB modem )
[06:31] <sokol_88> those manual is about ethernet modem...
[06:31] <pike__> sokol_88: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EasyUsbAdsl?highlight=%28adsl%29
[06:31] <sokol_88> i need manual about USB...
[06:32] <sokol_88> thanks!
[06:32] <dogmeat> folks, given 'vi' how do i find which package it belongs to?
[06:32] <sokol_88> i'll read it!
[06:32] <Pici> dogmeat: probably vim
[06:32] <sokol_88> hello from russia!
[06:32] <linuxgeekery> dogmeat: vim
[06:32] <sokol_88> ;)
[06:32] <Sneakyfox> anyone know why my install is failing? what can i do?
[06:32] <Yaakov> vox754: This is very frustrating... :(
[06:32] <dogmeat> looking for a dpkg command to tell me
[06:33] <Lounged> man oh man
[06:33] <pike__> sokol_88: welcome to ubuntu :)
[06:33] <bobgill> what's the command to completely remove KDE ??
[06:33] <Linguist22> does anyone know how to load or find verb files for Kverbos?
[06:33] <PriceChild> !netsplit
[06:33] <Pici> dogmeat: dpkg -S /usr/bin/vi
[06:34] <mpalma> hola
[06:34] <Pici> PriceChild: ubotu is on the other side of the split
[06:34] <agentnoob> bobgill: apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[06:34] <Lounged> guts///exit
[06:34] <mavsman4457> When I play snes9x through snes9express and I try to use my joystick, it says that the driver has to be version 1.0 or later to use, does that mean the joystick driver or does that mean I need to download a new thing for snes9express to recognize it?
[06:34] <neztiti> pici : again pls
[06:35] <Pici> neztiti: eh?
[06:35] <cap> Can you upload songs from your ipod to your computer with ryhthmbox?
[06:35] <Pici> neztiti: oh. chmod +x filename.bin then ./filename.bin
[06:35] <neztiti> pici again pls .... not works for me
[06:35] <Anlar> cap: if it fails, just switch to banshee or exaile, they are both way better in all areas
[06:36] <neztiti> pici togother ??
[06:36] <Pici> neztiti: no, They are separate commands
[06:36] <pike__> cap: backing up the ipod is pretty trivial i dont know about pulling songs though
[06:36] <bobgill> says "Package kubuntu-desktop is not installed"
[06:36] <bobgill> but I logged into KDE hour ago
[06:36] <bobgill> i have it
[06:36] <Linguist22> is it possible to use package manager to pickup on tar packages in your home folder?
[06:36] <neztiti> pici here the name of the file gboxpmt.bin
[06:37] <cap> How do I back all the songs from my ipod to my computer?
[06:38] <Linguist22> guess not
[06:38] <Pici> neztiti: What is your native language, I'm having issues understanding you, and vise versa
[06:39] <oksi> hola
[06:40] <Russian> !resolution
[06:40] <HiZaM> i need help instaling
[06:41] <Yaakov> Oh well... I guess I will try a different distribution.  Thanks for the help vox754.
[06:41] <Russian> !resolution
[06:41] <Russian> Whats wron gwith the bot
[06:41] <vox754> Yaakov, aah you traitor
[06:41] <cyberphaz> there any desklet type like google desktop for linux which has so many apps? weather, rss, converting apps etc?
[06:41] <m1r> yaakov, what is problem ?
[06:41] <cyberphaz> gdesklets seems somewhat limited in differnt apps
[06:41] <cyberphaz> :s
[06:42] <Pici> Russian: its not here, lost in the netsplit.
[06:42] <HiZaM> i need help installing ubuntu please
[06:42] <Yaakov> m1r: I went from kubuntu to ubuntu fiesty on my T30 and the wireless is hosed.
[06:42] <EADG> I'm movinging large files between hdd's which is pegging my cpu @ 100% and load avg. of 2.20, how can I drop the cpu usage to say... 40-60%?
[06:42] <taxman> HiZaM: what do you need?
[06:42] <m1r> yaakov , what wlan card u have ?
[06:42] <Russian> Pici you know the link for fixing the resolution?
[06:42] <perlmonkey>  hi
[06:42] <HiZaM> what is error 21
[06:43] <Yaakov> m1r: It gets two interfaces instead of one and I can't use the network manager bit to make it work, I have to do it manually.   I have an Intersil card, it uses the Orinoco driver.
[06:43] <taxman> EADG: run another process with a higher priority :)
[06:43] <perlmonkey> my fx5200 nvidiahas no colour on TV out
[06:43] <Pici> Russian: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:43] <m1r> yaakov, maybe try wicd ?
[06:43] <Yaakov> m1r: It also wont go into monitor mode so kismet won't run.  (It all worked under Kubuntu edgy)
[06:43] <m1r> yaakov, u upgraded or install fresh ?
[06:44] <Pici> Russian: fyi, everythings on http://bot.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <EADG> taxman: play an mp3 at -19 for example?
[06:44] <HiZaM> help please
[06:44] <Yaakov> m1r: I just don't have time, really.  I need to make this work.  I really expected it to work out of the box, so to speak.  Completely clean installation.
[06:44] <m1r> i c
[06:44] <Russian> Pici tnx
[06:44] <m1r> yaakov, few min please
[06:44] <taxman> EADG: sure, if that's what you want to do. I think most processes will take 100% if nothing else needs the time
[06:44] <Yaakov> m1r: I think I will try Debian, on the principle that I won't be worse off even if I have to reinstall *buntu of some sort.
[06:45] <Yaakov> m1r: OK.
[06:45] <HiZaM> m1r can you help me
[06:45] <_nightw0lf> hey guys, can you tell me good things about ubuntu?
[06:45] <agentnoob> help ndiswrapper ate my eth1!
[06:45] <_nightw0lf> lol
[06:46] <_nightw0lf> HiZaM: what is the problem?
[06:46] <taxman> HiZaM: in general try google first. google for ubuntu error 21
[06:46] <HiZaM> already did that and it said it was a livecd error
[06:46] <HiZaM> and i wasnt using a livecd
[06:47] <soho> about error 21, google is a good friend
[06:47] <taxman> HiZaM: try the alternate install image
[06:47] <soho> here it is solved
[06:47] <soho> http://www.ubuntu-forum.de/archive/21945/thread.html
[06:47] <_nightw0lf> someone can tell me amm good things about ubuntu? like how is it?
[06:47] <GodSyn_> #myth-users
[06:47] <GodSyn_> mt
[06:47] <agentnoob> anyone know how to create another eth1?
[06:47] <vox754> _nightw0lf, go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:47] <EADG> taxman: hmm, so, even though mp3 needs 5% cpu after that the remaining cpu can be used for file xfer?
[06:47] <m1r> yaakov, did u try use wicd ?
[06:48] <soho> _nightw0lf; its good but this depends on what do you think good is
[06:48] <soho> test it by yourself
[06:48] <HiZaM> rechecked it is grub 21 error
[06:48] <Yaakov> m1r: No, I installed and expected it to work.
[06:48] <taxman> EADG: yeah, that's generally how process allocation works, then it's allocated based on priority
[06:48] <sepht> Ah,
[06:48] <sepht> I need help!
[06:48] <agentnoob> _nightw0lf: if your not used to linux then try xubuntu before you get a huge window manager you have no clue how to use
[06:48] <sepht> Ubuntu is not just working!
[06:48] <josh____> Does anybody know when security.ubuntu.com will be up again so that security updates can be downloaded?
[06:48] <sepht> It should "just work"
[06:48] <sepht> but it doesn't!
[06:49] <co_tajir> rr
[06:49] <taxman> sepht: what error are you having?
[06:49] <Yaakov> m1r: I think the problems are deeper than the interface.
[06:49] <vox754> !doesnt work | sepht
[06:49] <_nightw0lf> agentnoob: amm no I came from gentoo..
[06:49] <sepht> taxman: it's ignoring me
[06:49] <EADG> taxman: hehe, gottcha.
[06:49] <sepht> it's very clearly ignoring what I'm telling it to do
[06:49] <sepht> and I'm quite frankly insulted
[06:49] <agentnoob> _nightw0lf: what do you prefer then?
[06:49] <polarheat> sepht: don't tell it to "sit" next time.
[06:49] <sepht> I set up my aterm config
[06:49] <sepht> in .Xdefaults
[06:49] <HiZaM> going to reboot tell you later
[06:49] <sepht> and it's completely ignoring what I put in
[06:50] <sepht> just
[06:50] <sepht> utterly ignoring it
[06:50] <_nightw0lf> agentnoob: I don't know.. gentoo works really nice, but the thing with the use flags and all that, confusing me..
[06:50] <Yaakov> vox754: Not a traitor, a person who needs to get stuff done.  Thanks again for the help, you too m1r.
[06:50] <sepht> _nightw0lf: USE flags are overhyped and gentoo is slow!
[06:50] <sepht> anyone who tells you gentoo is speed or slim
[06:50] <cyberphaz> pfft
[06:50] <sepht> is lying to you
[06:50] <sepht> it's as bloated and slow as ubuntu
[06:50] <vox754> Yaakov, actually you didn't explain the problem to me as you did to m1r. But that's fine, no problem.
[06:50] <m1r> yaakov
[06:50] <cyberphaz> i run both ubuntu and gentoo...
[06:50] <Krisser50> Hey
[06:50] <jhutchins_lt> !bot
[06:51] <m1r> yaakov , try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=446010&highlight=orinoco+intersil
[06:51] <sepht> Now someone, tell me why ubuntu aterm is ignoring what I put in Xdefaults
[06:51] <_nightw0lf> sepht: what is the meaning of the word 'overhyped', and why you think gentoo is slow?
[06:51] <sepht> _nightw0lf: because I benchmarked it as such
[06:51] <_nightw0lf> cyberphaz: and what you have to say about them?
[06:51] <sepht> it's not why I think it's slow
[06:51] <sepht> it's that I KNOW it's slow
[06:51] <jhutchins_lt> bot is dead/missing here too...
[06:51] <Yaakov> m1r: apt doesn't know about wicd
[06:51] <vox754> PriceChild, we need your assistance
[06:51] <_nightw0lf> sepht: O_O
[06:51] <cyberphaz> gentoo is better to configure down to the smallest bits, ubuntu is easier to use
[06:52] <sepht> cyberphaz: keep telling yourself that
[06:52] <adaminla> just loged on and have notification re: updates. tried to get them and cant fetch sites. any one else had problems with this today?
[06:52] <m1r> yaakov, do u get connection to see in iwlist scan ?
[06:52] <sepht> probably helps you sleep at night
[06:52] <Jurgentje> Hey... I've got an MP3-player for listening to podcasts... but it has the stubborn habit of putting all deleted podcasts into the trashcan. Is there a way to disable the trashcan (only for this player)?
[06:52] <mist3r0> join #palmi
[06:52] <helene_> pi
[06:52] <PriceChild> vox754, ?
[06:52] <cyberphaz> well if you benchmarked it, being the linux god himself you must be right of course septh
[06:52] <cyberphaz> :P
[06:52] <agentnoob> sepht _nightw0lf: default setups don't mean crap, turn off the extra services then benchmark plz
[06:52] <Yaakov> m1r: I can make the wireless work, if I manually handle the interface myself.
[06:52] <gnomefreak> sepht and cyberphaz please feel free to continue that topic in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:52] <PriceChild> !offtopic | cyberphaz
[06:52] <cyberphaz> shrug
[06:52] <sepht> agentnoob: I know what I'm doing
[06:52] <sepht> lol
[06:52] <m1r> yaakov, google for wicd
[06:53] <_nightw0lf> cyberphaz: the problem is that I'm not sure if I want to get to the smallest bits..
[06:53] <sepht> gnomefreak: I'm in here asking a question
[06:53] <cyberphaz> well then i doubt you need gentoo nightwolf
[06:53] <sepht> that no one can seem to answer
[06:53] <tlsarles> My apt is broken :-( Take a look : http://pastebin.com/m759c02c9 . Is there any way to reset apt-get so it quits trying to install a package that won't install properly?
[06:53] <gnomefreak> sepht: the gentoo vs ubuntu is not needed and that is what i was refering to
[06:53] <sepht> cyberphaz: I doubt most gentoo users need gentoo, it's good for massive testing of gcc and just about nothing more
[06:53] <sepht> okay
[06:53] <sepht> okay
[06:53] <sepht> I'm done
[06:53] <sepht> anyways
[06:54] <vox754> gnomefreak, thanks
[06:54] <_nightw0lf> cyberphaz: when you say deep to the smallest bits, give me example
[06:54] <cyberphaz> nah i have no desire to be banned
[06:54] <cyberphaz> :P
[06:54] <gnomefreak> tlsarles: your using unofficial repos please see #ubuntu-effects for more help
[06:55] <gnomefreak> sepht: you will be unmuted in 10 minutes
[06:55] <tlsarles> Yes. At this point I really don't care about getting the package installed, I just want apt back the way it was
[06:55] <ag0g0girl> hello everyone
[06:55] <co_tajir> 5y54yeru5k
[06:55] <ag0g0girl> any powerbook users here?
[06:55] <gnomefreak> tlsarles: remove your compiz packages remove the repos and apt-get update
[06:55] <r00t_> where dose streamtuner save ripped files to?
[06:56] <shirish> ubotu dial-up
[06:56] <nothingssomethin> does anyone know how i can get bluetooth to create a port
[06:56] <vox754> shirish, the bot is down
[06:56] <darwin81> Can anyone connect to "security.ubuntu.com" when they "apt-get update"?
[06:57] <gnomefreak> darwin81: yes
[06:57] <shirish> vox754: thanx & drats
[06:57] <ag0g0girl> hello, any mac users here?
[06:57] <samwize> can you determine whether a system is x86 or amd 64 just by looking at the proccessor type?
[06:57] <josh____> darwin81: nope
[06:57] <ag0g0girl> powerpc
[06:57] <gnomefreak> darwin81: are you using the us mirror?
[06:58] <samwize> or is it the OS that uses x86 / amd64?
[06:58] <ag0g0girl> I'm looking for someone to help me with a new kernel for the sound fix
[06:58] <erUSUL> samwize: the later
[06:58] <nothingssomethin> i need some help makeing a blue tooth sereial port
[06:58] <tapas> ag0g0girl: just tell us what the prob is
[06:58] <gnomefreak> darwin81: the security repos follow the lead of the CC.archive.ubuntu repos
[06:58] <tapas> !ask
[06:59] <gnomefreak> tapas: bot is in netsplit
[06:59] <gnomefreak> or was
[06:59] <vox754> samwize, the processor is x86 and possibly also amd64 , but better read a bit on wikipedia to undestand it.
[06:59] <r00t_> samwize: whats your cpu?
[06:59] <samwize> AMD 64 X2
[06:59] <tlsarles> apt-get remove no work http://pastebin.com/m68353e47
[07:00] <vox754> samwize, that is x86 but also amd64, you can use either version of ubuntu, but for desktop users i386 is probably best.
[07:00] <samwize> my OS is 32 bit
[07:01] <samwize> vox754: ok, thank you, i have 2 ubuntu CD's with both, i just wasnt sure which one to go with when i find the time to install
[07:01] <nothingssomethin> is there any bluetooth gui controls
[07:01] <samwize> 1 cd with x86 other has 64
[07:01] <samwize> since i have dual proccessors i think i might have to compile a kernel for that
[07:01] <random1> I need help configuring my wireless.
[07:01] <random1> =/
[07:02] <m_tadeu> hi everyone
[07:02] <FordCortina> anybody know how to get the expose/scale effect without beryl?
[07:02] <erUSUL> samwize: no need to do that, the generic kernel is smp capable
[07:02] <ag0g0girl> I have a powerbook G4 titanium...see bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/87652
[07:02] <vox754> samwize, no. The generic kernel offers SMP, symmetric multi processors.
[07:02] <m_tadeu> which is the driver version used with the nvidia-glx?
[07:02] <erUSUL> FordCortina: with compiz ;) (but it is almost the same)
[07:02] <ag0g0girl> anyone game to help?
[07:03] <tont> 
[07:03] <tont> my audio card does not come more recognized in fact in /proc not is the folder asound. .se makes to leave one live the card works as I make in order to make to recognize it?
[07:03] <FordCortina> erUSUL: heh
[07:03] <samwize> vox754: oh. well thats a relief. :)
[07:03] <erUSUL> m_tadeu: apt-cache show nvidia-glx
[07:03] <FordCortina> no i found something that could do it once
[07:03] <ieee802> i've changed my preferred terminal with xterm
[07:03] <FordCortina> cant remember what its called
[07:03] <ieee802> but when i press
[07:03] <FordCortina> so annoying
[07:03] <ieee802> the combination to open the terminal it continue to open gnome terminal
[07:04] <ieee802> is there a way to make xterm the predefinite terminal
[07:04] <ieee802> ?
[07:04] <_markt> what is the first thing the kernel runs in my / partition?
[07:04] <vox754> samwize, now, having multiple cores doesn't guarantee better speed. Applications need to be compiled specially for it. But you do not have to worry about it, unless you really want to have every single piece of software optimized.
[07:04] <m1r> ieee802 , system > preferences > programs
[07:04] <samwize> i heard ubuntu 7.04 doesnt support SMP is that because 7.04 isnt stable?
[07:05] <gnomefreak> samwize: it does
[07:05] <kduboi1> 7.04 works find with my smp kernel
[07:05] <samwize> ok
[07:05] <tlsarles> Mark - initrd?
[07:05] <samwize> ubuntu needs to update its docs x.X
[07:06] <_markt> tlsarles: yeah, what does that do? I'm trying to figure out what I need to keep in place to use your kernel with gentoo  8)
[07:06] <m_tadeu> erUSUL: but it should be related to a nvidia driver version, like 100.14.11, or something like that
[07:06] <erUSUL> ag0g0girl: it seems that you will have to wait until is fixed or use and old edgy kernel...
[07:07] <viden> When i do CTRL/ALT/BS my machine locks up and i have to hard reboot ... any clues ?
[07:07] <tlsarles> basically copy the whole contents of /boot
[07:07] <erUSUL> m_tadeu: there is a newer driver aviable nvidia-glx-new
[07:07] <tlsarles> But.... that seems like a risky opperation
[07:07] <_markt> I know
[07:08] <Layer8> hi!
[07:08] <erUSUL> ag0g0girl: if you are brave enough you can try to use the gutsy kernel or compile one on your own
[07:08] <m_tadeu> erUSUL: for a GF 8600 GT which one should I install? Can you tell me that detail?
[07:08] <_markt> so, it copies /boot and then... runs /sbin/init?
[07:08] <Layer8> guys I have a mp3 and a cue file...how can I get this oncd
[07:08] <mzanfardino> is it a fair bet that security.ubuntu.com is down/over used atm?
[07:09] <_markt> mzanfardino: it's been having trouble for quite some time
[07:09] <mzanfardino> _markt: ok, thanks.  just wanted to be sure it wasn't me
[07:09] <oxigen> hi guys, how can i disable menu which popup when press alt + right mouse button?
[07:09] <tlsarles> well
[07:09] <erUSUL> m_tadeu: the newer one iirc
[07:10] <mavsman4457> I tried to compile gtk so I could get something else to compile but it keeps asking me for glib which I don't know where to find, it looks like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29496/
[07:10] <viden> When i do CTRL/ALT/BS my machine locks up and i have to hard reboot ... any clues ?
[07:10] <ag0g0girl> erUSUL: are you sure that gutsy kernel has the fix for titanium?  Most people are compiling from dapper
[07:10] <tlsarles> Grub runs the kernel, as well as the initrd or inital ramdisk which loads basic drivers to get basic funcationality like mounting your filesystem and stuff
[07:11] <ilikec0ws> mavsman4457, Try installing them? glib. atk, pango and cairo
[07:11] <vox754> mavsman4457, search any package with "apt-cache search <file>" or "aptitude search <file>" read their usage info with "man apt-cache" and "man aptitude"
[07:11] <neztiti> pici: thank u man itworks 4 me
[07:11] <iAtheist> hey are some of the repos down for anyone else in here?
[07:11] <_markt> yes
[07:11] <mavsman4457> i tried installing some of them but they kept asking for glib
[07:11] <Yaakov> m1r: Just for the record, wicd acts *differently* but not much better.  I either need to figure out how to nuke the network configuration and re-detect the hardware (and hope for the best) or give Debian a shot.
[07:11] <_markt> read the topic
[07:11] <iAtheist> im trying to download a bcm cutter firmware and the repo is down for it :(
[07:12] <m_tadeu> erUSUL: thanks
[07:12] <erUSUL> ag0g0girl: someone in launchpad said "Sound is back in 2.6.22-7-powerpc64-smp!"
[07:12] <_markt> iAtheist: read the topic
[07:12] <Layer8> guys I have a mp3 and a cue file...how can I get this oncd?
[07:12] <ilikec0ws> mavsman4457, You might have compile the required version of glib, as it might require newer than what is in ubuntus repos
[07:12] <iAtheist> _markt: thanks :|
[07:12] <erUSUL> ag0g0girl: in the bug link you posted
[07:12] <mavsman4457> ilikec0ws: so should I try to compile a newer version of glib?
[07:13] <ag0g0girl> oh, very cool, thank you...I've never done a kernel before tho...what is the procedure
[07:13] <tlsarles> How do I reset the state of apt so it forgets pending opperations?!?!! Details  : <vox754> samwize, now, having multiple cores doesn't guarantee better speed. Applications need to be compiled specially for it. But you do not have to worry about it, unless
[07:13] <tlsarles>           you really want to have every single piece of software optimized.
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[07:13] <tlsarles> -:- SignOff rgb: #ubuntu (Client Quit)
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[07:13] <tlsarles> [#ubuntu] 
[07:13] <tlsarles> F, sorry
[07:13] <ilikec0ws> !ops | tlsarles
[07:13] <HiZaM> i am back and it didnt work
[07:13] <PriceChild> ilikec0ws, he's stopped :)
[07:13] <r00t_> has anyone suucsedded in putting ubuntu on a xbox?
[07:13] <ilikec0ws> PriceChild, I reliased :)
[07:13] <tlsarles> Thought I still had a link on the clipboard
[07:13] <_markt> hmmm, no inittab
[07:14] <ilikec0ws> mavsman4457, Its just a suggestion mate, but as a guess, it will probably be something along them lines
[07:14] <erUSUL> ag0g0girl: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=linux-image&searchon=names&subword=1&version=gutsy&release=all
[07:14] <HiZaM> the same error 21 grub
[07:14] <erUSUL> ag0g0girl: there you can dl the deb of the kernel a try to install it on feisty
[07:14] <_markt> I think I might be better off just trying to get a working gentoo kernel
[07:14] <tlsarles> Yep
[07:15] <tlsarles> Or run ubuntu in the first place
[07:15] <HiZaM> any help again
[07:15] <_markt> I've tried that several times already; no, ubuntu isn't going to do
[07:15] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: you around man?
[07:15] <ieee802> system > preferences > programs
[07:15] <ieee802> isn't worknig
[07:15] <viden> When i do CTRL/ALT/BS my machine locks up and i have to hard reboot ... any clues ?
[07:15] <ieee802> *working
[07:15] <w00t> anyone have any suggestions as to how i can get jack to work with my laptop's crappy hda intel sound? i really need this one...
[07:15] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon, right here!
[07:15] <ieee802> viden you use compiz/beryl
[07:16] <ieee802> ?
[07:16] <salami> hi
[07:16] <r00t_> viden: thats the key combo to restart your xserver
[07:16] <ilikec0ws> HiZaM, Well from a post i read ages ago it says,,,21 : Selected disk does not exist. This error is returned if the device part of a device- or full file name refers to a disk or BIOS device that is not present or not recognized by the BIOS in the system.
[07:16] <tlsarles> Anyhow, is it possable to reset the status of apt so it forgets pending jobs?!?! Problem pasted to : http://pastebin.com/m68353e47
[07:16] <salami> you tell me ;)
[07:16] <viden> ieee802:  beryl yes
[07:16] <iAtheist> can anyone help me on getting my intergrated camera working on my laptop?
[07:16] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: good morning, im still messing with my desktop trying to get it to work
[07:16] <HiZaM> and how do i get the BIOS to recognize it
[07:16] <viden> r00t_: yeah i know what it does .. it just doesnt work .. lol
[07:16] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: its definately a graphics driver problem
[07:16] <ieee802> probably there's something wrong with beryl or xorg conf
[07:16] <r00t_> viden: it shouldent freeze up it should just bring you back to the login screen
[07:16] <r00t_> viden: oh
[07:16] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon, I wish it was morning instead its quater past 6 at night!
[07:16] <ieee802> viden : it appened to me another time
[07:16] <erUSUL> ag0g0girl: if that fails you can compile a custom kernel
[07:16] <r00t_> viden: no  idea
[07:16] <viden> r00t_: haha "should" being the operative word in that sentance
[07:17] <erUSUL> !kernel | ag0g0girl
[07:17] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: where are you?
[07:17] <ieee802> i solved restoring xorg.conf
[07:17] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon, Manchester UK
[07:17] <viden> let me try
[07:17] <ieee802> viden : and resetting every beryl conf
[07:17] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: oh, got it
[07:17] <viden> already reset the beryl conf files
[07:17] <ieee802> you
[07:17] <darwin81> I'm trying to set up an FTP server and when I run "/etc/init.d/proftpd restart" I get the error "- Fatal: <Directory>: missing arguments on line 98 of '/etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf'". Can anyone tell me what I need to do?
[07:17] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: its not realy morning here either, its like 1 but i just woke up
[07:17] <ieee802> have also to reset
[07:17] <ieee802> beryl manager
[07:17] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon, lazy tbh? :P
[07:17] <ieee802> have you reset only beryl or also beryl manager?
[07:18] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: no, just a late night last night
[07:18] <viden> all of it .. full settings gone and set to default
[07:18] <ieee802> "To completely reset all beryl settings:  rm ~/.beryl-managerrc; mv ~/.beryl ~/.beryl.save; mv ~/.emerald ~/.emerald.save "
[07:18] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon, Well, I'd give one try to the open source ati drivers pacakge......but i dont know there name ^^
[07:18] <iAtheist> can anyone help me on getting my integrated camera working on my laptop?
[07:18] <ag0g0girl> !kernel
[07:18] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: where could i find that?
[07:18] <erUSUL> darwin81: check line 98 of /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf
[07:18] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon, It would be the one that comes with xorg
[07:18] <HiZaM> how do i make the bios to recognize my hd
[07:19] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon, That you used before you installed your ones from ati
[07:19] <RkyRaccoon> oh the default is fglrx
[07:19] <ag0g0girl> darn.  thanks for the info tho erUSUL
[07:19] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon, Try that then?
[07:19] <RkyRaccoon> yea
[07:19] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon, You have? Same error?
[07:19] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: yea, im gonna do that now
[07:19] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon, Ohh okay :)
[07:19] <RkyRaccoon> !ati
[07:19] <erUSUL> ag0g0girl: no problem... good luck with whatever you try :)
[07:19] <ponch_> .event {
[07:19] <ponch_>     display: none;
[07:19] <ponch_> }
[07:19] <oxff> anyone else having problems with security.ubuntu.com?
[07:19] <darwin81> erSUL, How do I go to a specific line in nano?
[07:20] <erUSUL> darwin81: nano +98 /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf
[07:20] <ekim|irc> Hi
[07:20] <oxff> anyone else having problems with security.ubuntu.com? anyone know a working mirror?
[07:20] <darwin81> oxff, I am, I just switched to a different server
[07:20] <HiZaM> help please
[07:20] <gegenki> yea i did
[07:20] <gegenki> it didnt update
[07:21] <oxff> can you share the sources.list line darwin81?
[07:21] <iAtheist> anyone know about setting up integrated webcams?
[07:21] <ilikec0ws> ubotu not ill agains is he?
[07:22] <bicky> hey, followed the howto on how to play WoW on ubuntu from the forum. Now when I start it I can't use my keyboard
[07:22] <Pelo> iAtheist, the best thing you can do is search for your hardware in the forum
[07:22] <Pelo> bicky, is this a wine installation ?
[07:23] <Pelo> bicky, ?
[07:23] <bicky> pelo, well the only thing about wine is updating the version, and then install it trough synpatic
[07:23] <bicky> pelo, or apt-get
[07:24] <Pelo> bicky, I'm asking if you are running  WOW on wine ?  if so asking in #winehq is probably the best place
[07:24] <bicky> bicky, ah ok
[07:24] <bicky> lol
[07:24] <ilikec0ws> Nice going ^^
[07:24] <iAtheist> pelo: thats last resort...
[07:24] <buhnici> ola
[07:24] <bicky> Pelo, ah ok.. I'll check it out there then
[07:24] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon, You get anywhere mate?
[07:25] <random1> Hey
[07:25] <Pelo> iAtheist, actualy that should be the first  place you look ,  the forum contains a lot of info on how to run specific hardware,  specialy embeded ones
[07:25] <RkyRaccoon> ilikec0ws: its downloading, my internet is kinda messed up so its gonna take some tiem
[07:25] <random1> So I've been trying to get kde installed on this machine.
[07:25] <random1> But can't manage to do it.
[07:25] <W1Z> does any1 know of any good working media centers for linux that will not have a problem findign my windows machine on a network? like wirelessly?
[07:25] <iAtheist> Pelo: oh, but i did look? nothing there on it. Actually im the only person who posts about this specific laptop....
[07:26] <ilikec0ws> RkyRaccoon, What exactly are you downloading?
[07:26] <ChaoticMind> hey, newbie here. For a reason or another, Ubuntu is using the system beep to do some sounds. for example in the terminal when i ctrl+z or backspace too much. or even in firefox when a find doesn't get a hit. is there a way to convert that sound effect from an internal beep to some sort of normal sound file?
[07:26] <Pelo> random1,  installing kde on ubuntu or installing kubuntu on a clean machine ?
[07:26] <random1> ubuntu
[07:26] <BoostedSS> does the wireless in ubuntu support wpa or just wep?
[07:26] <ieee802> kubuntu on a clean machine
[07:26] <ieee802> i prefer ubuntu with gnome though
[07:26] <ilikec0ws> BoostedSS, It does aye
[07:26] <Pelo> ChaoticMind,  try looking in menu > system > prefs > sounds
[07:26] <PriceChild> BoostedSS, both depending on the card
[07:26] <ag0g0gir1> hey erUSUL what is the difference between powerpc-smp and powerpc please?
[07:26] <rustalot> !pastebin
[07:26] <ChaoticMind> thanks Pelo
[07:26] <bobdrakken> everytime you enter a channel.. it says your ip address.. can you stop this
[07:26] <ieee802> BoostedSS, i use wpa on mine
[07:27] <iAtheist> Pelo: thanks anyways
[07:27] <bobdrakken> anyway to stop that from happening
[07:27] <ilikec0ws> !wireless | BoostedSS
[07:27] <Pelo> random1,   sudo apt-get install  kubuntu-desktop
[07:27] <random1> I do that
[07:27] <ilikec0ws> Poor ubotu is ill again!
[07:27] <BoostedSS> Ok, it doesn't give me the option in the gui for wpa, is it something that I have to use the command line for?
[07:27] <random1> And it says it couldn't find any package with that name
[07:27] <random1> well
[07:27] <random1> sec
[07:27] <BoostedSS> I'm a noob with linux and wireless
[07:27] <rustalot> where is the pastebin site?
[07:27] <Pelo> bobdrakken,  ask in #xchat
[07:27] <random1> Yeah
[07:27] <bobdrakken> Pelo: thanks
[07:27] <vox754> ATTENTION: the beloved ubotu is down. Wait until he respawns.
[07:27] <ilikec0ws> rustalot, http://pastebin.ca/
[07:28] <samwize> lol
[07:28] <Pelo> random1, you'll need to be connected to the internet then sudo apt-get update && apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:28] <m11> *ubotu will spawn in 30 seconds*
[07:29] <random1> It should be though.
[07:29] <ag0g0gir1> anyone know the difference between powerpc-smp and powerpc?
[07:29] <Layer8> guys I have a mp3 and a cue file...how can I get this oncd?
[07:29] <samwize> zaggynl: no i was making a NetHack reference
[07:29] <Pici> ag0g0gir1: smp = multiprocessor
[07:29] <Pelo> random1, did you mess with sources.list ?
[07:29] <random1> fuck
[07:29] <samwize> WoW < NetHack
[07:29] <ag0g0gir1> ahhh,. thanks Pici
[07:29] <zaggynl> oh, pardon me
[07:29] <random1> No
[07:29] <Pelo> random1, watch your language
[07:29] <erUSUL> ag0g0gir1: smp is for machines with more than one procesor or a multicore procesor
[07:29] <zaggynl> * > grinding mmo's
[07:29] <m11> layer8 - gnome baker ?
[07:29] <random1> See I'm stuck
[07:29] <random1> Cause I can't seem to configure my wireless properly
[07:30] <random1> And I can't get a gui.
[07:30] <LukeEkblad> hey
[07:30] <random1> And it seems either would make the other task simpler.
[07:30] <Pelo> random1, might be a better idea to dl the kubuntu cd and install it clean if you prefer kde
[07:30] <Layer8> m11, does it do this? there are the track infos in the cue file
[07:31] <ChaoticMind> Pelo, regarding the beep thing, It got disabled, but I can't find a way to replace it with another sound effect. Is there a way you can think of? In any case, visual flash seems to be a fine alternative, so not that big of a deal....
[07:31] <m11> layer8 , didnt used it , but i think it reads *.cue
[07:31] <ekim|irc-> Hi
[07:31] <LukeEkblad> I need help, i get this http://lukeekblad.googlepages.com/grrrr whenever i open the Add?Remove thing
[07:32] <ekim|irc-> I have a windows xp pc , with 2 hd's my boot drivwe with is 40 gigs and my data drive with is 120 gigs , my data drive is formatted with *Compressed* ntfs , will the ubuntu installer be able to resize this partition without problems ?
[07:32] <ekim|irc-> is the ubuntu installer aware of *Compressed* ntfs
[07:32] <Pelo> ChaoticMind, I haven'T readly messed with the sound but as everything in linux can be customized it can probably be done,  easily is another thing ,   maybe you can have a look in gconf-editor, that would be my next area of investigation
[07:32] <toni_> hi
[07:32] <ekim|irc-> I dont want to turn my pc into a glorified doorstop
[07:33] <Almighty_Henaro> Guys I'm having trouble updating :-(
[07:33] <ChaoticMind> Thank you Pelo.
[07:33] <ekim|irc-> so ?
[07:33] <mon^rch> an applet says there are 2 users online... I am the only user at my console. how do I find out the other user, please?
[07:33] <ilikec0ws> Almighty_Henaro, Other people been complaining that updates are slow/down
[07:33] <LukeEkblad> Pleas help me! I need help, i get this http://lukeekblad.googlepages.com/grrrr whenever i open the Add/Remove thing
[07:33] <Almighty_Henaro> ilikec0ws, Oh I see
[07:34] <Pici> mon^rch: type `who` at a terminal. Its probably just a tty/terminal using a user login.
[07:34] <random1> How does one keep it from scrolling so fast you can't read the output of a command?
[07:34] <ilikec0ws> Almighty_Henaro, That was hours ago so I dont know about now
[07:34] <mon^rch> Pici: ty
[07:34] <ekim|irc-> does anyone know the answer to my question
[07:34] <Pici> random1: pipe the output into less:  ls | less
[07:34] <ekim|irc-> I wouldreally like it answered ....
[07:34] <ekim|irc-> I want to install ubuntu right now :)
[07:34] <Pici> !patience | ekim|irc-
[07:34] <random1> =/
[07:34] <Pici> arg
[07:34] <LukeEkblad> Yay
[07:34] <ekim|irc-> I know :( ... a trait that I lack
[07:34] <LukeEkblad> good 4 u man!
[07:34] <Pelo> LukeEkblad, you see the command in the last line of the error msg, run those in the terminal
[07:34] <r00t_> where does streamtuner save music to?
[07:34] <neverblue> how do you mark a dir your currently in, that you would like to go back into?
[07:35] <Pici> ekim|irc-: If we dont know, we dont know.  The people in this channel are all volunteers.
[07:35] <cntrlx> for some reason i cannot apt-get build-dep pidgin  within fiesty..  It wont find source package for pidgin.
[07:35] <ekim|irc-> I just dont want my question to get lost in the scrollback
[07:35] <Almighty_Henaro> ilikec0ws it still seems slow for me Iget this: W: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[07:35] <ekim|irc-> is this a known issue ?
[07:35] <ekim|irc-> or maybe a non-issue
[07:35] <ekim|irc-> Hopefully
[07:35] <toni_> I'm having some problems with make command on feisty
[07:35] <toni_> it doesn't seem to work
[07:35] <ilikec0ws> ekim|irc, Why not resize it inside windows, then get installer to use free space?
[07:35] <ekim|irc-> is ubuntu a cd or a dvd ?
[07:35] <Pici> toni_: do you have build-essential installed? you need that to compile.
[07:35] <Pelo> toni_,  did you install  build-essential ?
[07:36] <ilikec0ws> ekim|irc, either
[07:36] <Pici> ekim|irc-: depends on what you download.
[07:36] <toni_> yes
[07:36] <ekim|irc-> I dont have a dvd burner
[07:36] <ekim|irc-> is that ok ?
[07:36] <toni_> i have the make command
[07:36] <toni_> but it does nothing
[07:36] <cntrlx> for some reason i cannot apt-get build-dep pidgin  within fiesty..  It wont find source package for pidgin.
[07:36] <Pelo> toni_,  did you run ./configure first ?
[07:36] <LukeEkblad> Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:36] <ilikec0ws> ekim|irc, Get the cd then :)
[07:36] <Sim1> I am a developer, how can i submit my .deb package to MOTUs?
[07:36] <LukeEkblad>  /var/cache/apt/archives/beryl-plugins-unsupported_0.2.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[07:36] <LukeEkblad> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[07:36] <toni_> Pelo, it's the kernel
[07:36] <toni_> i amdoing make menuconfig
[07:36] <toni_> and it does nothing
[07:36] <Pici> cntrlx: pidgin isnt in the feisty repositories.
[07:36] <toni_> well it's sudo make menuconfig
[07:36] <neverblue> how do you mark a dir your currently in, that you would like to go back into?
[07:36] <cntrlx> ok
[07:37] <Pelo> toni_,  then you are more apt at this then I , I've never compiled a kernel
[07:37] <Pelo> later folks
[07:37] <toni_> Pelo, ok
[07:37] <ilikec0ws> ekim|irc, Did you get what i said just before that?
[07:37] <Pici> toni_: can you pastebin the error you are getting?
[07:37] <erUSUL> toni_: you may need to install lincurses
[07:37] <ekim|irc-> has anyone here tried to resize a compressed ntfs partition with the ubuntu installer
[07:37] <cntrlx> can i get the repo's so they work when i configure pidgin.  repos from synaptic i mean.
[07:37] <ekim|irc-> I can't be the only one...can i ?
[07:37] <toni_> Pici,  that's what's weird, there is no erros
[07:37] <ilikec0ws> ekim|irc, Do it under windows, then get the installer to use the free space?
[07:37] <r00t_> if noone knows where streamripper saves ripped files to,does anyone know how i can find out?
[07:37] <toni_> erUSUL, yes, i have
[07:38] <erUSUL> toni_: paste the output of the command
[07:38] <toni_> ok
[07:38] <vox754> ekim|irc-, I guess not many people compress their file systems.
[07:38] <erUSUL> toni_: paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:38] <ekim|irc-> :(
[07:38] <ekim|irc-> The installer uses gparted correct ?
[07:38] <toni_> :/usr/src/linux$ sudo make menuconfig
[07:38] <toni_> Password:
[07:38] <toni_> and then nothing
[07:38] <toni_> no error
[07:39] <Pici> tux2005: usually that means it worked.
[07:42] <toni_> i have compiled kernels many times...
[07:42] <LukeEkblad> I need help!   This http://lukeekblad.googlepages.com/grrrr comes up whenever I click the add/remove thing
[07:42] <mavsman4457> toni_:just type your password, it's not supposed to show up
[07:42] <erUSUL> toni_: and have you tyyped your password? i assume yes
[07:42] <Pici> LukeEkblad: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:42] <toni_> erUSUL, yes
[07:42] <LukeEkblad> Pici:   ok
[07:42] <toni_> i have compiled kernels before
[07:42] <toni_> in debian
[07:42] <erUSUL> toni_: i have compiled them meny times too and worked allways...
[07:42] <toni_> and sometimes you get errors
[07:42] <erUSUL> Linux Varda 2.6.22-cfs-v19-dirty #3 SMP PREEMPT Mon Jul 9 12:08:15 CEST 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:42] <LukeEkblad> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29499/  there you go Pici:
[07:42] <gegenki> hi
[07:42] <LukeEkblad> gegenki:   hi
[07:42] <erUSUL> toni_: without any error msgs i do not know what maight it be the problem... the usual build process msgs doesn't show up it's a mistery...
[07:42] <toni_> I have googled around and seen nothing similar
[07:42] <Almighty_Henaro> Hello :)
[07:42] <ekim|irc-> The installer uses gparted for resizing partitions right ?
[07:42] <toni_> erUSUL, yes, that's weird
[07:42] <Sim1> I am a developer, how can i submit my .deb package?
[07:42] <erUSUL> toni_: do sudo make mrproper and do make menuconfig as normal user
[07:42] <LuitvD_> hi there
[07:42] <random2> Well then
[07:42] <toni_> erUSUL, the same: no error
[07:42] <random2> How do you find out what your internal network settings are?
[07:42] <random2> And how to change them?
[07:42] <erUSUL> toni_: without sudo (thats the recomended way, only use sudo in make install and make modules_install)
[07:42] <random2> Sorry
[07:42] <random2> =/
[07:42] <toni_> erUSUL, and doesn't work
[07:43] <LuitvD> anybody had ubuntu freezing before? I have... right now...
[07:43] <Cinderella_> 5555555
[07:43] <LukeEkblad> Pici:   there WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I PUT THAT IN
[07:43] <LukeEkblad> WOOPS
[07:43] <erUSUL> toni_: o_O!
[07:43] <Pici> LukeEkblad: looking
[07:43] <toni_> erUSUL, it doesn't matter if you do: make gibberish
[07:43] <toni_> still no error
[07:43] <toni_> ????
[07:43] <ekim|irc-> What partitioner does the ubuntu instalelr use ??!?!
[07:44] <PriceChild> ekim|irc-, ubiquity
[07:44] <gnomefreak> ekim|irc-: parted
[07:44] <PriceChild> ah
[07:44] <PriceChild> grr
[07:44] <gnomefreak> :)
[07:44] <ekim|irc-> which one ?
[07:44] <PriceChild> isn't it qtparted ?
[07:44] <TooR4u> i lost my samba passwd ... I tried to change the password by typing smbpasswd as root ... But i am not able to do that .. how can i change the passwd??
[07:44] <gnomefreak> ekim|irc-: parted.
[07:44] <PriceChild> qparted...
[07:44] <vox754> ekim|irc-, gparted. You may also download Knoppix cd and try to partition with it.
[07:44] <ekim|irc-> which one :)
[07:44] <PriceChild> meh :)
[07:44] <gnomefreak> PriceChild: gparted or qtparted
[07:44] <ekim|irc-> OK
[07:44] <DjViper> whats wrong when I get: 'The Composite extention is not available.' when I try to enable desktop effects?
[07:44] <erUSUL> toni_: ?????? indeed... i can only recomend reinstalling gnu make and related utilities...
[07:44] <TooR4u> i lost my samba passwd ... I tried to change the password by typing smbpasswd as root ... But i am not able to do that .. how can i change the passwd??
[07:44] <ekim|irc-> I am worried that resizing my ntfs partition will kill my hard drive
[07:44] <ekim|irc-> or at least the data
[07:44] <gnomefreak> ekim|irc-: depends on the cd (if ubuntu gparted most likely but i think its ran through partman)
[07:45] <w00t> okay well how about this one: is the alsa driverset in the "realtime" kernel as new as the newest ones from the alsa site? and if im hacving problems, will that porbably help with running jack?
[07:45] <erUSUL> DjViper: maybe your vga driver do not support it?
[07:45] <toni_> erUSUL, I have already done a apt-get install --reinstall make
[07:45] <DjViper> erUSUL: I dont know
[07:45] <toni_> i'll try the same with build-essential
[07:45] <Pici> LukeEkblad: I'd join #ubuntu effects and ask again. Specifiy that you're having a problem with a beryl package.  I'm not sure what to do in this instance.
[07:45] <cavalierprime> DjViper you need to install beryl
[07:45] <LukeEkblad> ok...
[07:45] <LukeEkblad> Pici:  thanks
[07:45] <w00t> for beryl join #beryl or #opencompositing
[07:46] <gnomefreak> ekim|irc-: and i still think its parted see following message
[07:46] <gnomefreak> ekim|irc-: parted - The GNU Parted disk partition resizing program
[07:46] <ilikec0ws> DjViper, Do you know what graphics card you have?
[07:46] <cavalierprime> desktop effects are done with beryl extensions
[07:46] <ekim|irc-> I am really worried that its gonna foobar my drive
[07:46] <LuitvD> I need help... wireless doesn't work on my fresh Ubuntu installation... it freezes as soon as I let it try our WEP key...
[07:46] <DjViper> ilikec0ws: ati card, 3d gfx is enabled
[07:46] <ekim|irc-> This is a legitimate concern , right ?
[07:46] <LuitvD> trying to find out why right now...
[07:46] <cavalierprime> LuitvD you may need an ndis wrapper
[07:47] <gnomefreak> ekim|irc-: if you mess up its possible. hint back up
[07:47] <cavalierprime> my Dell laptop did the same thing
[07:47] <gnomefreak> ekim|irc-: even if you dont its still possible
[07:47] <ekim|irc-> :(
[07:47] <vox754> ekim|irc-, yes. Better not using compressed data, and also defragment as much as you can in Windows.
[07:47] <ekim|irc-> I have nothing to backup to
[07:47] <LuitvD> cavalierprime: that's the weird thing, there's a driver...
[07:47] <gnomefreak> ekim|irc-: than you have nothing to lose :)
[07:47] <LuitvD> cavalierprime: you mean i need the original driver (through ndiswrapper)  to get it working properly?
[07:48] <ilikec0ws> ekim|irc-, Did you just blacnk out my suggestion i guess?
[07:48] <cavalierprime> LuitvD I had to use my proprietary driver with an ndis wrapper to get it to work
[07:48] <ekim|irc-> vox754, I compressed the entire drive when I formatted it
[07:48] <ekim|irc-> There is no way decompress it
[07:48] <LuitvD> cavalierprime: damn, that sucks
[07:48] <cavalierprime> ya
[07:48] <ekim|irc-> gnomefreak, I said I had nothing to backup ONTO not that I had nothing to backup
[07:48] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[07:48] <ekim|irc-> I guess I could get all the stuff back in the event of a total drive failure
[07:48] <LuitvD> cavalierprime: did it completely freeze when you tried the supplied driver?
[07:48] <ekim|irc-> I guess I can backup my photos onto a portable hdd I have
[07:48] <cavalierprime> yeah
[07:48] <cotyrothery> Ok i would like to recover windows but i think after having ubuntu on my harddrive it will not let me it keeps saying that user partion cant be created
[07:49] <Almighty_Henaro> Hey guys I keep getting this error when trying to reinstall a package ->E: ircd-hybrid: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[07:49] <LuitvD> cavalierprime: was it a RaLink chipset?
[07:49] <wydd> I have an eps file that opens correctly in almost any other distro, except in ubuntu 7.04.  gs freezes after trying to query some fonts (Times).
[07:49] <vox754> ekim|irc-, obviously an external HD is the way to go.
[07:49] <LuitvD> cavalierprime: mine is ...
[07:49] <hendrixski> !paste
[07:49] <ubot3> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:49] <wydd> any hints?
[07:49] <cavalierprime> LuitvD:  no, something with a b...
[07:49] <war_inside_my_he> quit
[07:50] <cotyrothery> Can someone tell me what i need to do to get my drive ready for windows to be installed
[07:50] <m11> > #windows
[07:50] <toni_> erUSUL, solved: gcc was but a dummy package; installed the real one and now it works. Thnaks for your time anyway ;-)
[07:50] <cotyrothery> it seems i cant get installed after i have had linux on the hard drive
[07:50] <vox754> wydd, try "evince <file>"
[07:50] <Pici> !windows | cotyrothery
[07:50] <ubot3> cotyrothery: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[07:51] <cavalierprime> cotyrothery:  you need to reformat in ntfs or FAT
[07:51] <LuitvD> cavalierprime: thanks for your help :)
[07:51] <cavalierprime> LuitvD:  np
[07:51] <erUSUL> toni_: but... why did make not complined about missing gcc??? o_O! ???
[07:51] <wydd> vox754, already did. It freezes. I tried gs file.eps and it hangs on "querying operating system for font files"
[07:51] <cotyrothery> cavalierprime: and then it should work?
[07:51] <Squip> hey everyone.. can anyone tell me how i can get Beryl to run on startup?
[07:51] <cavalierprime> yup
[07:51] <toni_> erUSUL, no idea
[07:51] <cotyrothery> cavalierprime: well i did that before and it didn't
[07:51] <ImLukeEkblad> Pici:  i whent to ubuntu affects and noone was there
[07:52] <cavalierprime> cotyrothery:  you may have to fdisk then and make new partitions
[07:52] <erUSUL> Squip: add it in System>Preferences>Sessions
[07:52] <ekim|irc-> does the partition editor support compressed ntfs ?
[07:52] <cotyrothery> cavalierprime: ok
[07:52] <Pici> ImLukeEkblad: #ubuntu-effects or #beryl
[07:52] <Squip> thanks
[07:52] <cotyrothery> cavalierprime: How should i make them then
[07:52] <ImLukeEkblad> ok
[07:52] <vox754> wydd, have you tried "gsview"? I feel like the fonts are not installed. No experience with that.
[07:53] <r00t_> im running ubutnu off a usb drive conected to my laptop,is there anyway i can move it onto my laptop harddrive?
[07:53] <cavalierprime> cotyrothery:  if you aren't gonna dual boot, just make one large one
[07:53] <rUiSu> hi people :] 
[07:53] <rUiSu> I would like to know if reiserfs 4 is included (supported) in ubuntu 7.04 :] 
[07:53] <wydd> vox754, already tried gimp, ggv, and so.... do you know anyone who can help. I have installed a lot of fonts....
[07:53] <cotyrothery> cavalierprime: no i plan on dual boot the only reason i need windows is so that i can have wow running full fps
[07:53] <r00t_> anyone know where the default save directory is for streamripper/tuner?
[07:53] <erUSUL> rUiSu: nope
[07:54] <cavalierprime> cotyrothery: just go halfs or something then
[07:54] <rUiSu> oh u.u   i sure would like it to, it seems so promissing.
[07:54] <wydd> Has anyone experienced problems with gv fonts? Unable to render an eps file?
[07:54] <Ash13> Hey, can someone help me?
[07:54] <JKtheCJer> hey everyone: so, i finally got my wardriving setup working...under windows :-(
[07:55] <vox754> wydd, check out launchpad if it is a known bug
[07:55] <JKtheCJer> it appears that Fesity broke support for the Earthmate LT-20
[07:55] <Pici> !ask | Ash13
[07:55] <ubot3> Ash13: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:55] <cavalierprime> cotyrothery: you can use the GNOME partition manager to resize the partition
[07:55] <rUiSu> is there any way reiserfs 4 can be implanted before installing ubuntu?
[07:55] <cotyrothery> alright
[07:55] <newbuntu3> Hello all. I'm trying to customize a new ubuntu (running on virtualbox); I have 2 problems: 1) How do I make checkgmail run on startup, and add it's icon to the applications tab? 2) How do I make the fonts smaller/windows-like?
[07:56] <Bsims> Any one willing to accept a dcc I am testing some settings in irssi
[07:56] <Ash13> Okay, so my aMSN is having this weird problem where I can view cameras, they work... relatively well and I don't have any plugin's, but I can't accept audio because I need an Audio/Video Plugin that doesn't exist, whats up?
[07:56] <vox754> Bsims, #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:56] <Pici> newbuntu3: 1) add it to the startup programs, preferences>session 1a) use the alacarte menu editor to add it to a menu 2) under preferences>fonts theres an advanced button, you can change the font dpi globally there.
[07:57] <osxdude|desktop> I got xchat to work
[07:57] <kduboi1> /commands
[07:57] <osxdude|desktop> using it now
[07:57] <r00t_> ARRGGGGGHHHH why cant i figure out where streamripper is hidding my files!!!!
[07:57] <samwize> Ash13: it might be a driver issue
[07:57] <Pici> r00t_: maybe in ~/.streamripper?
[07:58] <rUiSu> r00t_, you may be downloading to a non existant directory?
[07:58] <Almighty_Henaro> Hey guys I'm getting this error when trying to reinstall ircd-hybrid -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29509/
[07:58] <Squip> hey guys, whats the best MSN client for Ubuntu?
[07:58] <wydd> Why an eps file that renders ok in Debian Etch, would freeze gv and family in ubunto feisty?
[07:58] <Ash13> But why does it now allow me to view cameras? I thought that aMSN was completely bugged out on those problems? And Kubuntu wouldn't let me use both.
[07:58] <PriceChild> !best | Squip
[07:58] <ubot3> Squip: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[07:58] <LuitvD> my wired LAN is being even stranger... Why is my HwAddr two times the normal length?
[07:58] <erUSUL> Squip: amsn or gaim
[07:58] <Ash13> aMSn in my opionion Squip, but that's all I use.
[07:58] <Pici> Squip: amsn is what I've ehard
[07:58] <Ash13> aMSN *
[07:58] <toni_> bye
[07:58] <kduboi1> r00t_: check hidden files. i always use streamtuner, which is a gui and it lets you specify in its options where streamripper will save the files to....
[07:58] <Squip> ok thanks guys :)
[07:58] <samwize> Ash13: hmm. im stuck too.
[07:58] <fsckr> can someone pls try http://ivtvdriver.org/ and tell me if you can get there or do you get a permissions problem?
[07:58] <Syntux> guys, I'm not able to set ALSA for sound playback getting this erro raudiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Could not open resource for writing.
[07:59] <samwize> i cant say ive ever used kubuntu or aMSN
[07:59] <kduboi1> /root
[07:59] <r00t_> kduboi1: thats what im useing also but i never specified a dir,is there a default one?
[07:59] <kduboi1> i honestly have to stop guessing at irc commands.... sorry :-)
[07:59] <rob19> how different is ubuntu from debian in terms of the actual operating system (i.e: directory structure, ubuntu does this instead of that, etc)?
[07:59] <mcp_> is there a volume meter installed? whats its name?
[07:59] <Ash13> Me mcp?
[07:59] <Pici> Almighty_Henaro: that usually means that theres some sort of configuration that you need to do before the process to start up.
[08:00] <erUSUL> fsckr: Forbbiden for me
[08:00] <dxdt> hi everybody!
[08:00] <Ash13> Hey dxd.
[08:00] <wydd> #gwyddion
[08:00] <Anlar> rob19: ubuntu == debian with non-ancient software, mostly.
[08:00] <Almighty_Henaro> Pici: Oh well I can't seem to update, would that effect it?
[08:00] <Zxcs> Whats a better IM app than gaim?
[08:00] <r00t_> kduboi1: never mind i found it!
[08:00] <nickrud> mcp, vumeter
[08:00] <mcp_> I got no sound on the right speaker. I want to know if something with them mixer settings messed up or headphone defect
[08:01] <Pici> Almighty_Henaro: Shoudlnt.
[08:01] <hylje> Anlar: ubuntu bases off debian testing
[08:01] <kduboi1> r00t_ specify it in directory>general>musicfolder
[08:01] <kduboi1> haha, alright
[08:01] <fsckr> ok thx erUSUL now i need to find out how to d/l the utilities for ivtv somewheres else LOL
[08:01] <Almighty_Henaro> Oh :(
[08:01] <rUiSu> mcp_  do you have that HD Audio?
[08:01] <r00t_> kduboi1: /opt/ripped
[08:01] <DJ-_-> anyone know of any open source dreamweaver like tools for ubuntu?
[08:01] <mcp_> no, 2 channel headphone
[08:01] <hawk> Are there mirrors for security.ubuntu.com?
[08:01] <PriceChild> hawk, not official mirrors
[08:01] <ianmcorvidae> DJ-_-: NVU is a good one, from what I've heard.
[08:01] <r00t_> anyone know if its possible to move my OS from a usb drive onto my laptop drive?
[08:01] <mwe> AFAIK most ubuntu packages are based on debian unstable packages
[08:01] <hawk> PriceChild: Ok, thanks
[08:01] <Almighty_Henaro> DJ-_-: Bluefish is what I use
[08:02] <rUiSu> lol
[08:02] <DJ-_-> ianmcorviadae and Almighty_Henaro: tx
[08:02] <random2> So
[08:02] <osxdude|desktop> mcp_: I am having the same problem. I was playing with the cable ten the right speaker started going out, then it died. Try the headphones whith another peice of equipment.
[08:02] <hawk> mwe: I think that's true for universal, but not necessarily for the main set of packages...
[08:02] <angel>  possible to install windows media player on ubuntu?
[08:02] <ilikec0ws> mwe, thats right, with the shot been taken every 6 months
[08:02] <angel> is it?
[08:02] <Prez_> hello
[08:02] <Anlar> angel: no.
[08:02] <angel> even in wine?
[08:02] <Anlar> angel: just install proper codecs for gstreamer, and totem etc wil start working
[08:02] <LuitvD> my Wired LAN doesn't work... how the hell is that possible? is Realtek 8168B unsupported?
[08:02] <PriceChild> angel, other players can play all the wmp codecs
[08:02] <DJ-_-> anyone given aptana a try?
[08:03] <PriceChild> !doesn't work
[08:03] <ubot3> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[08:03] <PriceChild> LuitvD, ^
[08:03] <Anlar> angel: wmp will likely never work. ever. not in any way.
[08:03] <PriceChild> LuitvD, what doesn't work?
[08:03] <angel> where can i find this codecs
[08:03] <PriceChild> !mp3 > angel (see the pm from ubotu)
[08:03] <LuitvD> PriceChild: it's not too strong for this one... Something's really weard
[08:03] <rUiSu> I just downloaded Ubuntu 7.04 and today I see reiserfs 4 is released u.u
[08:03] <LuitvD> PriceChild: It doesn't seem to handshake with my LAN switch even...
[08:03] <Ind[y] > I 've noticed that "Update Manager" does not automatically run at boot. I don't think I have changed something that could affect that, though. Anyway, I can see that "Update Notifier" is set at startup. Any help, please?
[08:04] <LuitvD> so practically it doesn't work at all
[08:04] <Prez_> let's see if someone can give me a pointer... I am running laterst ubuntu stable... when running default latest Ubuntu kernel I can suspend to disk, Fn + F12 on my thinkpad X60s.  Fn + F4 (Suspend to RAM) does nothing.  Now I am running 2.6.22 kernel and I can sleep but, suspend to disk now does nothing!  any ideas?
[08:04] <PriceChild> Ind[y] , system > admin > software sources
[08:04] <LuitvD> PriceChild: linux (ifconfig) does see it though...
[08:04] <PriceChild> LuitvD, well then its working...?
[08:04] <jkmz52> I was having a debait with a friend of mine, do you or do you not pronounce the G in Gnome?
[08:04] <PriceChild> LuitvD, what doesn't work?
[08:04] <PriceChild> jkmz52, personal preference.
[08:04] <LuitvD> PriceChild: it doesn't connect
[08:04] <ianmcorvidae> Ind[y] : Update manager will be run by Update notifier when it detects an update is available.
[08:04] <newbuntu3> pici, thanks, it did the trick
[08:04] <samwize> jkmz52: i dont
[08:04] <PriceChild> LuitvD, what bit doesn't connect?
[08:04] <Ind[y] > ianmcorvidae: ok
[08:04] <ianmcorvidae> Ind[y] : Don't worry about it, it'll work :)
[08:04] <Pici> newbuntu3: sure thing.
[08:04] <Ind[y] > PriceChild: ok. then?
[08:05] <LuitvD> PriceChild: I plug in my cables and the switch tells me it's not a LAN device that's connected...
[08:05] <Anlar> jkmz52: yes, because if you pronounce gnome properly, it is audible
[08:05] <itbhp> hi
[08:05] <PriceChild> LuitvD, I'm confused...?
[08:05] <Ind[y] > ianmcorvidae: I don't think so, because it has many days to update, and today that I did update manually it found a lot of updates :/
[08:05] <LuitvD> PriceChild: (not sure about that last part, but it blinks orange, which it normally doesn't)
[08:05] <Pici> jkmz52:
[08:05] <Pici> jkmz52: The official pronunciation of the name is /gnom/ with a hard G, although /nom/ (as in the English word "gnome") is also in common usage.
[08:05] <ianmcorvidae> Ind[y] : That is odd. I have no idea, then. (That's what it's supposed to to. heh)
[08:05] <r00t_> PriceChild: is it possible to move a copy of ubuntu off my usb drive which is whats running my laptop right now onto the laptop hd itself?
[08:06] <PriceChild> r00t_, I don't know, don't recommend it..
[08:06] <Ind[y] > ok :(
[08:06] <LuitvD> PriceChild: I can setup whatever I want, and connect cables, and tell ubuntu to ifup, but it's not connecting
[08:06] <crackerbox> like Gee-nome
[08:06] <Anlar> jkmz52: it comes from "gnu this and that" and that has hard g
[08:06] <PriceChild> LuitvD, what does it say in terminal?
[08:06] <crackerbox> or like G-unit
[08:06] <LuitvD> PriceChild: by the way: it shows "eth0:avah" too when I do ifconfig
[08:07] <LuitvD> PriceChild: what is that?
[08:07] <crackerbox> there should be an app called gunit
[08:07] <Anlar> avahi
[08:07] <LuitvD> Anlar: I know, but what does it do
[08:07] <erUSUL> LuitvD: wrong cables? maybe using a crossover ethernet cable?
[08:07] <LuitvD> erUSUL: I'm not
[08:07] <erUSUL> LuitvD: that's an alias (i suspect avahi the zeroconf daemon in ubuntu)
[08:07] <fbc> I heard Mark Shuttleworth just announce gobuntu?? What's the diff guys?
[08:08] <LuitvD> erUSUL: I'm really sure of that (tried all cables I could find)
[08:08] <Anlar> LuitvD: upnp. announces services to network neighborhood, and listens for them.. stuff like banshee file sharing etc use it
[08:08] <BoostedSS> ok, I have a fresh install of ubuntu on a laptop, I cant get it to connect to wireless.  I click the network icon my the time and join a new wireless network.  It never connects, I have a laptop right next to it and it is connected.  The wireless setup is a cisco ap with wpa-psk.  anyone have a clue
[08:08] <BoostedSS> I want to get rid of my windows box :)
[08:08] <dxdt> fbc: gobuntu is going to have no controversial semifree stuffs.
[08:08] <crackerbox> BoostedSS: configure Key ring
[08:08] <dxdt> fbc: in short
[08:08] <LuitvD> right, but avahi isn't the thing making it not work then, is it?
[08:08] <HYPOKRIT> do it
[08:08] <BoostedSS> crackerbox: how do I do that?
[08:08] <fbc> dxdt: any the purpose of that is?
[08:09] <fbc> dxdt: Any = and
[08:09] <Anlar> yeah, gobuntu will be the absolutely worst working distro in existence :D I'm glad they make, I love those projects
[08:09] <erUSUL> LuitvD: do not think so,
[08:09] <crackerbox> Boosted: System > Administration > Key Ring Manager
[08:09] <crackerbox> then you left click on the network icon and should be able to select your wireless access point
[08:09] <fbc> dxdt: Is someone going to crack down on ubuntu? if not, what's the point?
[08:10] <crackerbox> boosted: what type of security is it using WEP WPA WPA2?
[08:10] <dxdt> fbc: well it depends on your philosophy of software.  If you are one that really would prefer everything to be free as in completely open and such then gobuntu would be for you.  For example, the founder of GNU would not use Ubuntu as it is today because it isn't free enough.  It uses some restricted drivers and what not.  He and many others would not be ok with that.
[08:10] <LuitvD> in Debian, my HwAddr was twice the normal length by the way... no idea how that happened
[08:10] <Anlar> dxdt/fbc: yes. however he doesn't have anything fun in his live either.
[08:11] <BoostedSS> crackerbox: on the windows box I set it to wpa with preshared key and tkip and it connects
[08:11] <neogeo> hi. ich bin komplett neu in ubuntu. hab eben versucht zsnes zu installieren aus synaptic. ging auch aber der ton ist sehr schlecht. lann mir da jemand vielleicht helfen?
[08:11] <crackerbox> ok
[08:11] <BoostedSS> crackerbox: the ssid is not broadcasted
[08:11] <BoostedSS> ...
[08:12] <crackerbox> hmmm
[08:12] <dxdt> it is simply a matter of choice.  I mean if you want to know more visit gnu.org and also visit Mark's actual blog post about it.  It has been something they were considering for a while.  Now it is just happening.
[08:12] <crackerbox> basically, left click on the network icon... what are your options?
[08:12] <erUSUL> LuitvD: try rmmodding the driver and modprobing it again
[08:12] <rUiSu> how long should it take ubuntu to support reiserfs(released one, tested no bugs)?
[08:12] <fbc> dxdt: hmm.. I just want a computer that works... I could really give a rats a$$ whether some of the components where restricted, or not.  Who know's, maybe some day I might switch to gobuntu, after I verify that it''l play all my videos, and stuff.
[08:13] <LuitvD> erUSUL: and the driver is... r8168?
[08:13] <BoostedSS> crackerbox: well if I left click it, it will say wireless networks with my network in there, then below that it has connect to other, creat new, and manual config
[08:14] <KI4IKL> How do I force mount my external HD?
[08:14] <erUSUL> rUiSu: reiserfs is a dead fs with reiser heading to prison reiser4 is dire straits (good band btw) and noone wants to maintain reiserfs3.x anymore (suse dropped it)
[08:14] <LuitvD> stupid split
[08:14] <LuitvD> why does the server I connect to always split :(
[08:14] <crackerbox> boosted: so "my network in there" means it is showing your access point/router?
[08:14] <erUSUL> LuitvD: i guess us 'lsmod | less'
[08:15] <BoostedSS> crackerbox: no, it shows my ssid
[08:15] <LuitvD> erUSUL: i tried rmmod, and it worked... but now eth0 is gone :P
[08:15] <LuitvD> erUSUL: so now nothing works
[08:15] <crackerbox> boosted: ok very good... click on your SSID
[08:15] <oxigen> hi guys, how can i disable menu which popup when press alt + right mouse button?
[08:15] <erUSUL> LuitvD: modprobe it again
[08:15] <rUiSu> damn :P so i should try xfs... its anoter option, any reccomendations? other fs?
[08:15] <neogeo> can somebody help me fix sound in zsnes
[08:15] <LuitvD> erUSUL: and my switch still tells me it's a faulty device
[08:15] <erUSUL> LuitvD: that's the expected behaviour you uloaded the driver
[08:15] <erUSUL> unloaded*
[08:15] <crackerbox> boosted: it should prompt for your WPA key
[08:16] <erUSUL> rUiSu: xfs is a far better bet
[08:16] <BoostedSS> crackerbox: it doesn't
[08:16] <erUSUL> LuitvD: after modprobing it?
[08:16] <rUiSu> ok :) thnks erUSUL
[08:16] <ZoOl007> I just installed a vmware workstation 6 demo and it works flawlessly cool...
[08:16] <LuitvD> erUSUL: OMG, it works :D
[08:16] <ferronica> Can any one please tell me what is GTK 1 and GTK 2 ? :(
[08:16] <LuitvD> erUSUL: it does blink normally now anyways...
[08:16] <fatihciroglu>  hi , which key-combo must i use for desktop-change ?
[08:16] <rolfen> !xfs
[08:16] <ubot3> xfs is a high-performance journaling filesystem originally developped by Silicon Graphics for their IRIX OS. It is now fully supported by Linux so you can install Ubuntu on it if you wish. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFS
[08:16] <erUSUL> ferronica: UI widget libs used in gnome
[08:17] <BoostedSS> aahh
[08:17] <BoostedSS> what the
[08:17] <erUSUL> LuitvD: ;)
[08:17] <BoostedSS> This is the last thing I need to work before I can scrap windows :)
[08:17] <dxdt> fatihciroglu: usually ctrl+alt+arrow key by default
[08:17] <ferronica> erUSUL: please elaborate
[08:17] <LuitvD> erUSUL: YES, it works baby
[08:18] <LuitvD> erUSUL: thank you very much
[08:18] <LuitvD> erUSUL: but how the hell can reloading the module be helpful? :S
[08:18] <fatihciroglu> dxdt: thanks man. good evenings
[08:18] <LuitvD> erUSUL: doesn't make any sense at all
[08:18] <erUSUL> ferronica: they are the libs that draws the buttons the menus etc programers use them just as kde uses qt libs or in windows you use MFC or delphi or whatever....
[08:19] <NeXtDaY> i need a good audio convertor? from .rm to mp3s. any one, please
[08:19] <KI4IKL> what the hell?
[08:19] <LuitvD> and it's unsplit :)
[08:19] <kdean06> Is there anywhere I can get more information on Gobuntu?
[08:19] <crackerbox> boosted: did you already run keyring manager (System > Administration > Keyring Manager) and setup a new keyring (from the keyring manager GUI: Keyring > New Keyring... Keyring Name: "Default", Enter a Password, Confirm that Password, Click Create Key ring)
[08:19] <erUSUL> LuitvD: sometimes the hardware is not fully initializaded (by bios) when the machine is booting
[08:19] <LuitvD> KI4IKL: that's called "netsplit"
[08:19] <KI4IKL> heh.
[08:19] <rolfen> yeah what was that
[08:19] <KI4IKL> rolfen, netsplit
[08:20] <erUSUL> LuitvD: btw your wellcome XD
[08:20] <crackerbox> !netsplit
[08:20] <ubot3> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[08:20] <BoostedSS> crackerbox: no I named it something else
[08:20] <LuitvD> rolfen: that happens when one of the irc nodes splits from the other servers
[08:20] <BoostedSS> do I need the quotes around it?
[08:20] <crackerbox> no
[08:20] <Ghaz> this may sound a really noob question, but if i install some stuff with the package manager, how do i find where its installed to? :(
[08:20] <BoostedSS> k let me try :)
[08:20] <ferronica> erUSUL: okay ,can i make my own theme etc. ?
[08:21] <nalioth> Ghaz: everying installs into /usr/bin
[08:21] <NeXtDaY> i need a good audio convertor? from .rm to mp3s. any one, please
[08:21] <erUSUL> ferronica: yes you can. dunno how though ;)
[08:21] <nalioth> Ghaz: but you don't need to mess around in any dir outside of your homedir
[08:21] <LuitvD> erUSUL: only thing I'll need to fix now is bluetooth XD
[08:21] <Ghaz> so if i go look there they will be there?
[08:21] <Anlar> NeXtDaY: rm is perhaps the most problematic format of them all.. I'd attempt myself with vlc
[08:21] <rolfen> netsplit... ok
[08:21] <nalioth> Ghaz: why are you asking?
[08:21] <kdean06> Ghaz, You can find out which files are in which package by doing "dpkg -L packagename"
[08:22] <NeXtDaY> Anlar: how do i convert .rm to mp3s?
[08:22] <Ghaz> i installed some things to help me monitor cpu temp etc, and dunno where they are or how to run them :(
[08:22] <gnychis> I have ubuntu installed, but LPR is not working, whenever I try 'lpr file' nothing happens, i get the prompt back and nothing prints, anyone know how to begin debugging this?
[08:22] <nalioth> Ghaz: open a terminal and type their names
[08:22] <erUSUL> !sensors | Ghaz
[08:22] <ubot3> Ghaz: You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[08:22] <StoneNewt> hum so I guess that the security package server is having problems
[08:22] <dxdt> Ghaz: if they are the applet thingies then just click on the panel and add an applet and there is some stuffs.
[08:22] <LeJean> hey
[08:22] <ibt> NeXtDaY: i think mplayer can output a .rm to .wav and then you can just run your favorite encoder
[08:22] <nalioth> Ghaz: open a terminal and type 'man $appname'
[08:23] <ubotu> Ghaz: You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[08:23] <BoostedSS> Just says attempting to join, but never does crackerbox
[08:23] <mhz`> for setting dcc ports in xchat...do you gotta go above the 1024 range b/c of how linux is?
[08:23] <younghacker> anyone know where i can get games for ZSNES at?
[08:23] <erUSUL> LuitvD: never used bluetooth in linux myself...
[08:23] <NeXtDaY> ibt: :) good idea but what a waste of time.. why i can't convert them to mp3 directly?
[08:23] <mhz`> ahh, screw it..i'll just pick a higher range
[08:23] <Ghaz> right, will have a play, thank you
[08:23] <LuitvD> erUSUL: I have... but not with a device that can be shut down power-level ;)
[08:24] <LuitvD> erUSUL: (laptop... gah)
[08:24] <younghacker> anyone know where i can download games for ZSNES ?
[08:24] <ibt> NeXtDaY: because realaudio doesn't want you to. write a simple bash script
[08:24] <Anlar> younghacker: ask google, not here. that may not be legal.
[08:25] <Ghaz> lol, turns out there are no sensors on my MB, or ive bodged it
[08:25] <erUSUL> younghacker: no warez here
[08:25] <younghacker> =@
[08:25] <mhz`> ugh, stupid wireless
[08:25] <mhz`> that shit disappeared
[08:25] <NeXtDaY> ibt:i see. ok thanks :)
[08:25] <mongo> i've been having unusually slow download speeds, am i to assume that's a result of server issues?
[08:25] <younghacker> smh
[08:25] <ferronica> Could not download all repository indexes.   The repository might be no longer available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and the correct writing of the repository address in the preferences.
[08:25] <mongo> download speeds for updates that is
[08:25] <younghacker> ok i have another question then
[08:25] <ianmcorvidae> What's the command for counting the lines in a file?
[08:25] <PriceChild> ferronica, try it again
[08:25] <ibt> erUSUL: he probably meant homebrew
[08:26] <younghacker> lets say i have the ROMS already right,, but there on windows,,, does it matter,, ZSNES should still play them regardless right?
[08:26] <FruitieX> younghacker: SNES Roms are legal if you own the real cartidge
[08:26] <ferronica> PriceChild: okay
[08:26] <erUSUL> ferronica: security servers are heavy loaded today try again tomorrow
[08:26] <tempspace> I'm using the networkmanager pptp client, and in the syslog, I get this when I connect
[08:26] <tempspace> Jul 11 14:23:36 will-laptop NetworkManager: <WARNING>^I nm_vpn_manager_activate_vpn_connection (): nm_vpn_manager_activate_vpn_connection(): no currently active network device, won't activate VPN.
[08:26] <younghacker> i know,, I have the software on XP but i want it on my Linux
[08:26] <PriceChild> FruitieX, either way, not a discussion for thsi channel sorry.
[08:26] <FruitieX> younghacker: no it doesn't matter if you can access the files from windows
[08:26] <crackerbox> ok here comes a hard question: while trying to get curl-FTP-fs (curlftpfs) to work in feisty, I am being effected by the well known bug in feisty's version of libcurl.  According to this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=423899&highlight=curlftpfs you can compile the new version of libcurl (from gusty repo) and then link some other lib... can some one help me out?
[08:26] <FruitieX> PriceChild: Yes, I know
[08:26] <tempspace> any ideas on how to make network manager use an interface that is manually configured
[08:27] <younghacker> no thats not what i mean,,, can i like upload them from my windows box and should they work in my ZSNES installation on linux
[08:27] <younghacker> just the games
[08:27] <mhz`> hmm, anyone familiar with the network manager...before it used to list Wired Netowrk and Wireless Network
[08:27] <ibt> younghacker: yeah, it should play them. also, this has nothing to do with ubuntu
[08:27] <mhz`> now it just lists wired..any ideas?
[08:27] <younghacker> exactly,,, but zsnes is a program on ubuntu
[08:27] <younghacker> =)
[08:27] <younghacker> brb
[08:27] <FruitieX> younghacker: yes they will work...
[08:27] <younghacker> thank you Fruitie
[08:27] <FruitieX> np ;)
[08:27] <BoostedSS> Anything anyone else can think of?  (wpa-psk not broadcasting the ssid?)
[08:28] <crackerbox> specifically the part that is giving me problems is the post: " PS Dont forget to enable gnutls while configuring curl, and to update libcurl-gnutls links in your /usr/lib"
[08:28] <crackerbox> boosted: tell your router to broadcast its SSID
[08:28] <Anlar> BoostedSS: is the ap hidden or is it broadcasting? I have noticed sometimes connecting hidden aps is problematic for some unknown reason
[08:28] <FruitieX> Any ideas why ddclient can't read my IP?
[08:28] <ibt> younghacker: that doesn't make #ubuntu support for all applications installable by ubuntu
[08:28] <BoostedSS> Anlar:  it is hidden :(
[08:29] <NeXtDaY> !gimp
[08:29] <ubot3> gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[08:29] <ubotu> gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[08:29] <younghacker> what is that a delayed reaction
[08:29] <younghacker> i was helped already thank you
[08:29] <Anlar> BoostedSS: okay.. well, the fact that it is hidden does not improve the real security at all, so..
[08:29] <FruitieX> lol
[08:29] <BoostedSS> Anlar: I know, but my boss thinks it does lol
[08:30] <BoostedSS> I am going to make it broadcast for a bit
[08:30] <rolfen> anyone ever encountered this:
[08:30] <rolfen> rolf@ubuntu:/media$ ls -l|grep network
[08:30] <rolfen> drwxr-xr-x 3 rolf rolf 4096 2007-07-11 18:30 network
[08:30] <rolfen> rolf@ubuntu:/media$ sudo ls -l|grep network
[08:30] <rolfen> ?--------- ? ?    ?       ?                ? network
[08:30] <FruitieX> lol no
[08:30] <erUSUL> !paste > rolfen
[08:30] <fevel> when I installed ubuntu it found my vista partition but mounted readonly, can someone explain to me how to change this issue?
[08:30] <Anlar> BoostedSS: it seems like the wpa_supplicant couldn't detect something properly if it is not broadcasting, but I never really quite understood that
[08:31] <Anlar> fevel: install ntfs-3g and read up a little bit on it and ubuntu
[08:31] <BoostedSS> Anlar: thanks, I'm going to try to broadcast it
[08:31] <gnychis> does anyone know what package i can find lpr-cups in?  Its not in cupsys
[08:31] <FruitieX> what about this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29515/
[08:31] <fevel> Anlar: I thought 7.04 came with ntfs support
[08:31] <thiru> quit
[08:31] <crackerbox> fevel: it has read support
[08:31] <ojeda> kkkkkk
[08:31] <Anlar> fevel: it's the old driver, not the 3rd generation one that can really write as well
[08:32] <Anlar> fevel: you CAN enable write support on that shipped one as well, but it will sometimes fail the operations
[08:32] <LuitvD> erUSUL: so for WiFi I just rmmod the current driver, and then ndiswrapper the proprietary one?
[08:32] <mzanfardino> !lamp
[08:32] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[08:32] <fevel> Anlar: I see...is it possible to defrag the partition from within ubuntu? so I can resize it with gparted
[08:33] <erUSUL> LuitvD: if you want to use ndis instead of the native driver you must rmmod the driver and blacklist it so it is no loaded again across reboots
[08:33] <Anlar> fevel: ntfs-tools, ntfsutils or something like that has afaik a defrag utility
[08:33] <mzanfardino> fevel: depends on your fs, but most here would suggest that you needn't defrag a proper fs
[08:33] <peder_> How do I run a .deb in terminal?
[08:33] <erUSUL> LuitvD: add it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[08:33] <mzanfardino> peder_: dpkg -i <debfile>.deb
[08:34] <erUSUL> peder_: dpkg -i (other question is if you should)
[08:34] <LuitvD> erUSUL: as soon as I can find which one ;) thanks mate
[08:34] <erUSUL> LuitvD: no problem
[08:34] <fevel> mzanfardino: I get an error when trying to resize it with gparted
[08:34] <LuitvD> erUSUL: add to blacklist and reboot you mean right?
[08:34] <LuitvD> erUSUL: because just rmmodding it doesn't work :P
[08:35] <fevel> mzanfardino: it told me to check the filesystem for errors and if posible fix them
[08:35] <Vletmix> How do I get php to show 'compile' errors? my error_reporting is E_ALL at the moment, but I just get a blank page when there's a syntax error
[08:35] <LuitvD> erUSUL: (module in use notification)
[08:35] <mzanfardino> fevel: what is the file system you are trying to resize?
[08:35] <ibt> peder_: what do you mean by 'run'?
[08:35] <Asad2005> nvidia go 7200 problem starting xserver no matching device section for pci:0:10:03 error while lspci shows busid as 05:00.0 any help
[08:35] <peder_> ibt: execute, but I have already done it.
[08:36] <ibt> peder_: it isn't executable.
[08:36] <Vletmix> oh, wtf am I asking php questions in #ubuntu :) duuuh
[08:36] <NigelS_> peder_: a .deb is an installation file
[08:36] <gilo2> has anyone used IPMI for lights out management?
[08:36] <erUSUL> LuitvD: add to blacklist and reboot you mean right? yes modules have interdependencies and sometimes you have to rrmod them in the correct order
[08:36] <rolfen> Vletmix you can ask that in ##php (but i think you need to be registered to go there). I know what you're talking about, i had this prob long time ago, i think it's something in php.ini
[08:36] <gilo2> !ipmi
[08:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipmi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:36] <Anlar> fevel: you can mount a dirty partition, just use force tag (-f or something) in the commands.. it's mostly aok, but if the partition editor tells you that you better obey
[08:36] <mzanfardino> fevel: are you talking about resizing an NTFS, FAT, FAT32, ext2, ext3, ReiserFS, what?
[08:37] <Vletmix> rolfen: yeah, just had the wrong tab open :)
[08:38] <kbrooks> ping
[08:38] <kbrooks> um
[08:38] <kbrooks> need to ask
[08:38] <Prez_> let's see if someone can give me a pointer... I am running laterst ubuntu stable... when running default latest Ubuntu kernel I can suspend to disk, Fn + F12 on my thinkpad X60s.  Fn + F4 (Suspend to RAM) does nothing.  Now I am running 2.6.22 kernel and I can sleep but, suspend to disk now does nothing!  any ideas?
[08:39] <rolfen> Vletmix: php.ini : display_errors = On
[08:39] <kbrooks> how do u fix the progress bar prob in 7.04
[08:39] <sung> hi
[08:39] <kbrooks> whereby the orange isnt shown
[08:39] <sung> glasgow
[08:39] <sung> UK
[08:40] <erUSUL> Prez_: sadly that's the state of suspend/power managment in linux it is a question of luck that depends on your specific hardware/kernel combination... :S
[08:40] <sung> emmm
[08:40] <sung> any one in room
[08:41] <Grifer> hi! how do I make fd0 show itself as A: in WINE?
[08:41] <LakuZ> lol
[08:41] <mzanfardino> !ask sung
[08:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask sung - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:41] <erUSUL> !ask | sung
[08:41] <ubotu> sung: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:41] <shwouchk> For some reason I can't connect via ndiswrapper to a wpa2 network - only to open ones... why?
[08:41] <NigelS_> sung: at least 1144 people and one bot in fact
[08:41] <Grifer> duh.. I need to make a Win98SE bootdisk if anyone wonders
[08:42] <mhz`-> i wish they made mirc into *nix:/
[08:42] <mhz`-> i miss it and it sucks with wine
[08:42] <erUSUL> Grifer: download one from internet and use 'dd'
[08:42] <mhz`-> a win98se bootdisk..sheesh
[08:42] <mhz`-> that's going back
[08:43] <shwouchk> For some reason I can't connect via ndiswrapper to a wpa2 network - only to open ones... why?
[08:43] <gnychis> anyone familiar with this error try to print using lpr?  lpr: cannot open /var/spool/lpd/hplj4l/.seq: No such file or directory
[08:43] <Superjew9020> just recently everytime i run su it returns setuid:operation not permitted what does that meen and how do i fix it??
[08:43] <Grifer> erUSUL they're .exe files
[08:44] <Borzo> bbl
[08:44] <Grifer> afaik they need to be driven from C: and then they install themselves in A:
[08:44] <NigelS> shwouchk: possibly that function isn't supported with the ndiswrapper/driver combination you're using - ndiswrapper does not give full control of the hardware in every case
[08:44] <NigelS> shwouchk: eliminate that first as a possibility
[08:44] <family> is there any way to make qemu boot my NTFS partition instead of a hard drive image file?
[08:44] <osxdude|desktop> brb
[08:45] <timtux> does anyone got a pkg for flock 0.9.0?
[08:45] <Anlar> family: yes.
[08:45] <shwouchk> NigelS: how? the stock bcm43xx driver doesnt connect even to open networks
[08:45] <family> Anlar: do you know how?
[08:45] <NigelS> shwouchk: check out the info page for your hardware and ndiswrapper
[08:45] <Anlar> family: just give the correct command line parameter I guess.. I don't know the specifics, but it should be doable
[08:45] <Anlar> family: give the partition device as the image file
[08:45] <Superjew9020>  just recently everytime i run su it returns setuid:operation not permitted what does that meen and how do i fix it??
[08:46] <fevel> Anlar: thanks for the help...ntfs-3g works fine
[08:46] <fevel> Anlar: all I have to do know is learn how to resize
[08:46] <vanisher_> guestion, my fresh ubuntu installations freezes sometimes with this message: Uhhuh. NMI received for unknown reason a0 on CPU 0.
[08:47] <Shiverz> could anyone tell me what bash exactly is?
[08:48] <compengi> !bash
[08:48] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[08:48] <KI4IKL> now can I force mount my external hd?
[08:48] <palomer> hello
[08:48] <Shiverz> sorry, let me rephrase
[08:48] <sung> emmm
[08:48] <capiira_> something like command prompt from windows
[08:48] <palomer> I keep getting these errors when compiling something:
[08:48] <alexIdoia> hi I would a keyboard shortcut to close the tray of my CD player, is that possible ?
[08:48] <palomer> error: 'snd_seq_create_simple_port' was not declared in this scope
[08:48] <jamman> KI4IKL, yes, should be a -f option
[08:48] <Grifer> erUSUL what about dd?
[08:48] <palomer> I think I need the alsa midi headers
[08:48] <KI4IKL> umm...as in fstab?
[08:49] <compengi> Shiverz, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bash <--- this could help
[08:49] <KI4IKL> sorry, i'm not knowledgable inmounting
[08:49] <jamman> KI4IKL, no, but maybe. from terminal.
[08:49] <Shiverz> Bash is a C interpreter that let's users run executables and pipes those results in a text-only window?
[08:49] <mhz`-> how's the sex life then KI4IKL :)
[08:49] <mhz`-> /dev/null
[08:49] <kbrooks> Shiverz, no
[08:49] <mhz`-> ?
[08:49] <KI4IKL> lmfao mhz`-
[08:49] <NigelS> Shiverz: bash is not a c interpreter no
[08:49] <KI4IKL> not what I mean...
[08:50] <NigelS> Shiverz: bash is a shell, the bourne again shell
[08:50] <alesan> hi
[08:50] <r00tintheb0x> anyone else getting this in their logs?
[08:50] <r00tintheb0x> Jul 11 11:34:44 mkinglinux gconfd (root-6093): GConf server is not in use, shutting down.
[08:50] <alesan> I have this system with 4GB ram but I can only see 3GB
[08:50] <alexIdoia> hi do anyone know what would be the command to close the tray of my CD drive ?
[08:50] <Shiverz> yeah, well that shell was written in some programming language yes?
[08:50] <Shiverz> it interprets commands
[08:50] <r00tintheb0x> alexIdoia, there isnt one.
[08:50] <alesan> what should I do in your opinion? it's a dual "dual" xeon
[08:50] <alexIdoia> r00tintheb0x: really that is not possible to do it ?
[08:51] <capiira_> bash is a text based text field (aka. terminal) where you can type commands and execute them
[08:51] <r00tintheb0x> alexIdoia, not that i know of. I know "eject cdrom" will open the tray. You can reboot the system and it'll probably close it.
[08:51] <strider> how are you gentlemen , all your base are belong to us
[08:51] <jamman> KI4IKL, more like, "mount -f ext3 --force /dev/hda2 /media/place/to/mount"
[08:51] <NigelS> Shiverz: your terminology is errant; an interpreter of a language interprets a language without that language needing to be the one it was written in yes?  a shell is an interpretive environment but if you want to test this by writing a c program and see if it executes the text file be my guest :)
[08:51] <shwouchk> NigelS: on the ubuntu site?
[08:52] <NigelS> shwouchk: I would suggest ndiswrapper and google
[08:52] <mhz`-> Shiverz, you can create bash scripts by putting in numerous commands that you'd input manually
[08:52] <miscma1> I lost my connection.     Was my previous question sent?
[08:52] <erUSUL> Grifer: are you trying to use images from www.bootdisk.com?
[08:52] <mhz`-> into 1 script for execution
[08:52] <dv_> hello
[08:52] <shwouchk> NigelS: well, I saw no mention of wpa, so it could be both ways
[08:52] <NigelS> miscma1: no
[08:52] <dv_> how is it possible to install fonts in ubuntu?
[08:52] <dv_> I downloaded some truetype fonts, but cannot install them
[08:52] <miscma1> ok I'll ask again
[08:52] <mhz`-> windows fonts, dv?
[08:52] <NigelS> shwouchk: what's your chipset?
[08:53] <dv_> no
[08:53] <strider> i'd like to write a script that kills compiz , launches an app (given as an argument) and when it quits restarts compiz
[08:53] <alexIdoia> r00tintheb0x: no there is actually a way: eject -t
[08:53] <mhz`-> why you wanna kill compiz? it's sexy
[08:53] <miscma1> I have lost my cube.  I went to lunch and when I came back, I unlocked my screen and my cube was gone.  Is there somewhere I can look for errors?  some common problem feisty users are experiencing?
[08:53] <alexIdoia> but how would I do to put in on a key ?
[08:53] <NigelS> dv_: copy to the fonts folder /usr/share/fonts etc and run fc-cache
[08:53] <strider> openGL apps runs badly when compiz i on
[08:54] <strider> i only have a ATI mobility 9000 ;)
[08:54] <jo3nix> having a problem w/ nslookup, anyone seen this mesg: nslookup: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libisc.so.11: invalid ELF header
[08:54] <Shiverz> NigelS: Well, C can read input strings and display output strings from other programs. It seems I'm slightly confused here :)
[08:54] <shwouchk> NigelS: bcm43xx
[08:54] <palomer> hey guys
[08:54] <strider> well anyway here's what i've done for Quake3
[08:54] <palomer> I have an app which needs asoundlib
[08:54] <strider> killall compiz.real
[08:54] <strider> /home/strider/Games/ioquake3/ioquake3
[08:54] <strider> compiz --replace
[08:54] <mhz`-> Shiverz, are you trying to use them together or figure out which would be best for a partiticular task?
[08:55] <strider> works fine
[08:55] <palomer> asoundlib.h isn't on my system
[08:55] <palomer> what gives?
[08:55] <Shiverz> NigelS: Since bash commands are programs in itself from what I understand.
[08:55] <NigelS> Shiverz: look up what an interpreter is and then what a compiler does; C is not an interpreted language in the sense of java,c# etc
[08:55] <mhz`-> most are, awk, grep..etc
[08:55] <jo3nix> having a problem w/ nslookup, anyone seen this mesg: nslookup: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libisc.so.11: invalid ELF header
[08:55] <mase> jesus christ, the updating is going at 10-30kb/s MAX, whats wrong with UBUNTU?
[08:55] <strider> but how do i replace the second line with an argument ?
[08:55] <NigelS> Shiverz: the execution of a binary is not the same as interpretation
[08:55] <mhz`-> yeah, i'm updating to mase :/
[08:55] <jamman> same.
[08:55] <mase> its killing me
[08:55] <miscma1> mase: the servers are having issues... read the channel topic
[08:55] <mhz`-> strider, like $2?
[08:56] <mase> oic.
[08:56] <beni> Hey I want to install U:Server on a former win95 box, but it doesnt start from the cd (Yes i changed the boot order). Is there any way to "kill" win95 so my disk will start? The win95 bootup always interrupts the start from cd
[08:56] <strider> hum yeah i'm going to try this
[08:56] <Shiverz> NigelS: Like for instance, a LISP interpreter was written in C, it interprets LISP syntax.
[08:56] <mhz`-> you can declare the other option as a variable
[08:56] <mhz`-> then call it
[08:56] <amidaniel> beni: Go into your bios and disable booting from hd
[08:56] <NigelS> Shiverz: yes, bash interprets bash syntax; it's like that
[08:56] <mon^rch> is there some way I can map my multimedia keys (taht currently do nothing) to work with amarok... ie: I want my play/pause ffwd buttons to work
[08:57] <NigelS> Shiverz: it's only one of many shells, like tsh and plain old sh but has more functionality and has become the one most use
[08:57] <NigelS> shwouchk: and which driver is ndiswrapper loading?
[08:57] <Shiverz> NigelS: Bash isn't a language.
[08:57] <mhz`-> strider, homedir="`cd`"
[08:57] <shwouchk> NigelS: the driver available from dell.com
[08:58] <Shiverz> NigelS: Take for example the command "ls -lh", ok?
[08:58] <dxdt> beni: that isn't the problem.  I mean think about it, if it is already starting windows, it is already reading the hard drive which means that it isn't booting off of the cd.  For whatever reason.  What happens if you change the boot order such that it only boots off of cd and not hard drive at all?  That should be able to be done in the bios.  I would recheck those settings and see what happens then.  I guess what I'm saying is, you don't wa
[08:58] <gnychis> how can i regenerate /etc/cups/cups.conf ? I deleted /etc/cups and want to rebuilt it, which is not done after doing another apt-get on cupsys
[08:58] <mhz`-> Shiverz, i'm still trying to figure out what you're trying to accomplish
[08:58] <Shiverz> NigelS: The Bash commands ls is in itself a program.
[08:58] <NigelS> Shiverz: a moment ago you thought bash was a C interpreter so please don't try to lecture me on what it does :) checkout bash.org and the wikipedia page
[08:59] <JasonF> Are the "server issues" the reason why breezy sources are 404'ing?
[08:59] <dxdt> lol what bash.org is a quote site NigelS
[08:59] <beni> dxdt: it first shows that the cd is loaded then "Starting Win95" .. I'll burn it again i think its some File System error, the CD is kinda damaged
[08:59] <strider> gr8 it works ;)
[08:59] <JasonF> Or has support been dropped?
[08:59] <Shiverz> NigelS: Sorry, I'm merely to understand what it is exactly ;)
[08:59] <Shiverz> *trying
[08:59] <beni> amidaniel: thanks, i did it, helped to located the problem
[08:59] <EchoBinary> i think bash.org would be perfect for learning
[08:59] <NigelS> dxdt: ;)
[09:00] <dxdt> beni: well there you go.  If you think the cd is damaged then it is probably damaged so it can't boot from it and then it goes to the next thing which is your hd
[09:00] <dxdt> I'm soooo sleepy
[09:00] <beni> dxdt: ;)
[09:00] <mhz`-> finally done updating
[09:00] <Oxx1> Can someone help me please ? i reciently installed ubuntu Feisty Fawn on my Toshiba p105 s9337 Laptop and cant get the sound card to sound xD.... i tried all the instructions all over the web but still no sound at all !!!
[09:00] <Easy_Frag> necesito ayuda para un novato en esto del ubuntu-linux
[09:00] <NigelS> shwouchk: if you've got the driver loaded now could you dmesg | grep ndiswrapper driver: for me
[09:00] <Oxx1> para ayuda en espanol anda a #ubuntu-es
[09:00] <gnychis> how am i supposed to install and run cups when it says this:  chown: cannot access `/etc/cups/cupsd.conf': No such file or directory
[09:01] <gnychis> isn't cupsys supposed to install that file for me?
[09:01] <mhz`-> are you doing sudo, gnychis
[09:01] <mhz`-> ?
[09:01] <Easy_Frag> gracias
[09:01] <mhz`-> sudo apt-get install cups
[09:01] <Shiverz> Wikipedia says Unix shells are considered scripting languages.
[09:01] <Oxx1> de nada! :P
[09:01] <gnychis> mhz`-: yes i am
[09:01] <NigelS> Shiverz: yep
[09:01] <gnychis> mhz`-: there is no such thing, its cupsys
[09:01] <mhz`-> how about completely removing it using synaptics then reinstalling?
[09:01] <Oxx1> Can someone help me please ? i reciently installed ubuntu Feisty Fawn on my Toshiba p105 s9337 Laptop and cant get the sound card to sound xD.... i tried all the instructions all over the web but still no sound at all !!!
[09:02] <deCon> help please: I keep having interlaced problems between amarok and firefox media extentions...for some reason the ALSA mixer isn't sharing/switching and causes some specific effects depending on which app is opened first into the session
[09:02] <kbrooks> how do i refresh GTK?
[09:02] <erUSUL> Shiverz: yes unix shells come with scripting languages built in
[09:02] <Nalleman> Hejsan. Hur gr jag fr att att ta bort en katalog?
[09:02] <deCon> kbrooks, ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:02] <gnychis> mhz`-: i tried that, still same thing
[09:02] <Nalleman> mha terminal allts..
[09:02] <Oxx1> Nalleman, in english please.... xD
[09:02] <deCon> can someone please help me with an audio issue
[09:02] <kbrooks> deCon, GTK, not X11
[09:02] <Oxx1> pa engelska! xD
[09:02] <shwouchk> NigelS: I can't exactly do this since it's on another machince which isn't on the net
[09:03] <Nalleman> Oxxl  oh... sorry
[09:03] <Ex-Cyber> kbrooks: what do you mean by "refresh GTK"?
[09:03] <mhz`-> hmm, new version of utorrent that lets you control it over the web :/
[09:03] <Oxx1> haha its ok
[09:03] <kbrooks> Ex-Cyber, the themes
[09:03] <Grifer> format in fat... have to format floppy in fat... which program?
[09:03] <beni> deCon: ever tried rythmbox instead of amarok? I had trouble with amarok, too and then i discovered this one ;)
[09:03] <kbrooks> Ex-Cyber, i want to refresh the themes.
[09:03] <Nalleman> How can I remove a directory from the terminal?
[09:03] <olegb> rm -r dir
[09:03] <mhz`-> rm -rf <dir>
[09:03] <erUSUL> Grifer: mkfs.vfat?? mformat from mtools??
[09:03] <Nalleman> ok, thanx
[09:03] <deCon> kbrooks, sorry...no idea.Google..
[09:04] <Grifer> erUSUL ok
[09:04] <deCon> beni, similar issues? I love the app, but it just doesn't seem to play nice
[09:04] <Shiverz> NigelS: I openly admit that you are right and I was wrong ^^
[09:04] <kbrooks> ah
[09:04] <kbrooks> i switched to another theme
[09:04] <kbrooks> then went back to human
[09:05] <dxdt> kbrooks: that is weird, it should just happen. try logging out or restarting. but yeah it should just happen with noo need to refresh
[09:05] <Oxx1> Can someone help me please ? i reciently installed ubuntu Feisty Fawn on my Toshiba p105 s9337 Laptop and cant get the sound card to sound xD.... i tried all the instructions all over the web but still no sound at all !!!
[09:05] <Marotte_> Hello all
[09:05] <dxdt> Oxx1: is your volume up?  Is the pcm volume up?
[09:05] <deCon> does anyone know why I may be having ALSA sharing issues? I can't seem to get audio in more than 1 app (at a time, or in linear order)
[09:05] <Oxx1> yup
[09:05] <Oxx1> dxdt, yes it is
[09:05] <NigelS> shwouchk: do you know the card in the machine? bcm43xx is the driver but which exactly?
[09:06] <Grifer> erUSUL there we go, you've been great
[09:06] <Marotte_> I have a bug in ubuntu feisty... want to know if someone else has the same...
[09:06] <dxdt> hrm.  see if dmesg has any info for you.  try piping it to less os you can read it with dmesg | less at the terminal.
[09:06] <mase> 90 updates at 15kb/s
[09:06] <erUSUL> Grifer: no problem ;)
[09:06] <osxdude|laptop> Marotte: What's wrong
[09:06] <Grifer> mmm... PSP is redesigned
[09:07] <LuitvD> I'm outta here
[09:07] <mase> is there a beryl package for ubuntu?
[09:07] <LuitvD> once more, thanks erUSUL  ;)
[09:07] <Marotte_> Alsamodularsynth (ams) works fine with the jack driver but the sound is simply awful with alsa..
[09:07] <capiira> sure mase
[09:07] <Grifer> mkfs.vfat: bad blocks before data-area: cannot make fs
[09:07] <Grifer> mkfs.vfat: bad blocks before data-area: cannot make fs
[09:07] <Grifer> oops
[09:07] <Grifer> :(
[09:07] <Marotte_> I tried killall esd but same result
[09:07] <dxdt> mase: follow http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu
[09:08] <mase> dxdt, thanks buddy
[09:08] <capiira> just type "sudo aptitude install beryl" if you have feisty
[09:08] <squee> How do I send a net messege to a windows machine from linux?
[09:08] <Marotte_> /exec apt-cache show beryl
[09:08] <Marotte_> I forgot I was in gaim :)
[09:08] <osxdude|laptop> Marotte: turn down the volume
[09:08] <Marotte_> let me try
[09:08] <dxdt> squee: with samba.  The command with samba installed is something like smb -M machinename or something
[09:08] <gnychis> is cupsys suppsoed to install /etc/cups/cupsd.conf ???
[09:09] <dxdt> the rest you can probably find with google.com/linux
[09:09] <mroc> has anyone else had trouble connecting to security.ubuntu.com (82.211.81.138) today for updates?  it been hanging on that all day for me.
[09:09] <dxdt> mroc: I've seen other people mention it earlier.  unless that was you lol.
[09:09] <GeekMaster1> Does ANYONE here use EasyBCD?
[09:09] <kbrooks> squee, um
[09:10] <kbrooks> squee, it's some magic. let me look
[09:10] <ianmcorvidae> mroc: Yes, everyone's trying to update, it's very bogged down.
[09:10] <Turbooster> hi there
[09:10] <ianmcorvidae> mroc: Try again later if you don't desperately need the updates.
[09:10] <mroc> wasn't me.  thanks for the info.  i'll try later.
[09:10] <Turbooster> how can I measure the wlanspeed of my USB stick?
[09:10] <Marotte_> same issue, I set the sound in alsamixer, even with 10% I get a lot of click
[09:10] <GeekMaster1> Does ANYONE here use EasyBCD?
[09:11] <Marotte_> when I say a lot, it's many, many, many
[09:11] <deCon> does anyone know why I may be having ALSA sharing issues? I can't seem to get audio in more than 1 app (at a time, or in linear order)
[09:11] <compengi> mroc, oh.. there is an update?
[09:11] <somenoob> whats the console command for deleting a file?
[09:11] <erUSUL> !dmix
[09:11] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[09:11] <compengi> somafm, rm
[09:11] <capiira> did you set the default audio output to alsa?
[09:11] <Marotte_> deCon: I think alsa cannot share audio, you have to use jack for this no ?
[09:11] <ianmcorvidae> somenoob: rm
[09:12] <Turbooster> !wlan
[09:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wlan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:12] <kbrooks> squee, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=267067
[09:12] <compengi> somenoob, rm
[09:12] <compengi> somafm, sorry :)
[09:12] <shwouchk> NigelS: I apologize for taking a long time responding... anyway, Im not sure exactly which - I know its a dell card - the windows driver is bcm5something... I can copy and write the lines or the important parts if you want
[09:12] <r00tintheb0x> oh alexIdoia i didnt know that.
[09:12] <somenoob> ianmcorvidae: ty
[09:12] <GeekMaster1> Does ANYONE here use EasyBCD?
[09:12] <perlmonkey> hello
[09:12] <deCon> marotte_, i didn't know this....isn't alsa better? Or should i not be using that if i like using lots of multimedia?
[09:12] <shwouchk> NigelS: oh, wait, lemme lspci
[09:12] <lucas-r2d2> hi, i've got a little problem while setting up geant4. it tells me that i need "OpenGLXM", but i don't know where to find that. is there any package?
[09:12] <Marotte_> yeah alsa is selected
[09:12] <r00tintheb0x> alexIdoia, "Not all devices support this command."
[09:12] <capiira> dmix is buildin alsa now
[09:12] <Marotte_> I have no problem with other apps
[09:12] <perlmonkey> is it possible to forward an X session from one system to another?
[09:12] <somenoob> compengi: ty too =)
[09:12] <compengi> GeekMaster1, i don't think, but just have some patience :)
[09:13] <kbrooks> squee, :-)
[09:13] <Marotte_> can someone simply install ams and tst a demo project with jack and alsa ?
 Thanks
[09:13] <cotyrothery> Ok im trying to install windows after having ubuntu on the hard drive and i just now got to the part of the install were it trys to create the user partion but now it tells me this " Cannot create user partition ! System Recovery cannot continue ! " why is that?
[09:13] <perlmonkey> example..I want to access X on my media center PC from my workstation PC, is that something can be done with remote X session?
[09:13] <dv_> :O feisty seems to be incompatible with nvidia 8800 cards
[09:13] <Zee1ot> hello
[09:13] <squee> kbrooks: thanks :p
[09:13] <kbrooks> squee, np
[09:13] <dv_> that is, when one wants 3d acceleration (= cs drivers)
[09:13] <perlmonkey> how does remote X session work?
[09:14] <kbrooks> perlmonkey, through SSH?
[09:14] <Turbo> how can I measure wlanspeed
[09:14] <perlmonkey> kbrooks: ya I have SSH, is that an easy process?
[09:14] <kbrooks> perlmonkey, does the server have sshd?
[09:14] <perlmonkey> kbrooks: ya
[09:14] <gus> vmware question, how do i switch from host-only networking to bridged
[09:14] <shwouchk> NigelS: lspci reports it as bcm4318 - [airforce one 54g] ... I know it's not an airforce card, but I guess you were interested in the other part
[09:15] <lite-X> hi need help
[09:15] <perlmonkey> I need X
[09:15] <lite-X> cant do this
[09:15] <kbrooks> perlmonkey, ssh -X server, but be sure you enable X forwarding on the server and/or client
[09:15] <lite-X> i cant install buntu
[09:15] <kbrooks> perlmonkey, HOWEVER!!!
[09:15] <perlmonkey> kbrooks: how do you enable X forwarding?
[09:15] <perlmonkey> ok
[09:15] <kbrooks> perlmonkey, there is a catch to this.
[09:15] <askand> If I release a wallpaper on gnomelook.org what license should I release it under?
[09:15] <perlmonkey> :-/
[09:15] <cotyrothery>  im trying to install windows after having ubuntu on the hard drive and i just now got to the part of the install were it trys to create the user partion but now it tells me this " Cannot create user partition ! System Recovery cannot continue ! " why is that?
[09:16] <kbrooks> perlmonkey, it forwards from the server to the client
[09:16] <Upsal> apt-get says that i have to insert data into /cdrom, but i have no cd-drive, and i want to use a mounted ISO image, how can i do that?
[09:16] <deCon> marotte_, i dont have that option, esd, my regular sound card..but not that one
[09:16] <perlmonkey> ok
[09:16] <kbrooks> perlmonkey, it does not run X11 on the server, only on the client. so no 3D
[09:16] <lite-X> always try to install ubunto and it say somthing like root
[09:16] <lite-X> i need to set up a root
[09:16] <perlmonkey> thats ok
[09:16] <lite-X> dont no how to do it
[09:16] <lite-X> any help
[09:16] <lite-X> ?
[09:17] <kbrooks> perlmonkey, you have to enable X11 forwarding in the configuration
[09:17] <perlmonkey> kbrooks: when you say "server" do I need to install/run something on the remote system I am connecting to?
[09:17] <kbrooks> perlmonkey, yes.
[09:17] <erUSUL> !root | lite-X
[09:17] <ubotu> lite-X: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[09:17] <Pici> lite-X: root is just the base location where it is installed.
[09:17] <perlmonkey> kbrooks: what is it I need to install?
[09:17] <dxdt> lite-X: you are annoying the channel.  Ask a question, a good question and then be patient.  Furthermore, you don't need root, you have sudo, but if you still really want root you can change it.  Listen to the bot ubotu
[09:17] <kbrooks> perlmonkey, openssh-server
[09:17] <osxdude|desktop> I changed my root password. (evil laugh)
[09:17] <perlmonkey> I have sshd installed
[09:17] <perlmonkey> so I'm good to go?
[09:18] <dxdt> perlmonkey: I believe in the sshd config file there is awesome a setting that you need to change to a "yes" or somethignl ike that
[09:18] <lite-X> dam confuz
[09:18] <kbrooks> dxdt, the change to root was removed from the wiki page, so please dont endorse that here.
[09:18] <perlmonkey> I just do ssh -X 192.168.1.5 (server IP) ?
[09:18] <Carleton91> How do I check what version of Ubuntu I have?
[09:18] <kbrooks> dxdt, tthank you
[09:18] <perlmonkey> hehe ok
[09:18] <Pici> Carleton91: lsb_release -a
[09:18] <dxdt> kbrooks: do you have access to update the bot?
[09:18] <perlmonkey> thanks guys
[09:19] <kbrooks> dxdt, you can ask for it to be updated.
[09:19] <Pici> dxdt: you can request things be changed on the bot.  Just msg it with something like: no fact is something else. it will be forwared to the ops for moderation.
[09:19] <kbrooks> dxdt, only the ops have access to the bot.
[09:19] <Zee1ot> what is the best way to mount a remote drive?
[09:19] <dxdt> was it removed by choice or does someone just need to write a small blurb about it.  Cause I can do that.  I got spare time right now.
[09:19] <Pici> dxdt: ie: !no root is <reply> blah blah blah blah
[09:19] <lite-X> i mean when i install ubunto on my harddrive it tells me somthing like root like i have to install it on root and i dont no what you mean by sudo
[09:19] <perlmonkey> X11Forwarding yes
[09:19] <Sonic11> Ubunto xD
[09:20] <kbrooks> dxdt, no, it was removed by choice and for good reason.
[09:20] <kbrooks> dxdt, only sudo is supported on ubuntu.
[09:20] <perlmonkey> so now, to get the X forwarding, can I just open a shell on the client side during an existing X session or must I exit X first on client?
[09:20] <Pici> lite-X: What version are you trying to install?
[09:20] <kbrooks> perlmonkey, former
[09:20] <perlmonkey> ok
[09:20] <perlmonkey> thanks
[09:20] <dxdt> I was just curious.  A lot of people hate the sudo thing that is why it seems to me like they should keep it or even better keep it up but explain their mysterious good reasons letting the user make the choice.
[09:21] <kbrooks> perlmonkey, if the client has 3D hardware, then 3D is okay
[09:21] <kbrooks> perlmonkey, and will work, but with significant lag unless done over a LAN
[09:21] <Pici> dxdt: the information about root/sudo is in the sudo factoid.
[09:21] <capiira> hmm anyone know if there is a way to configure the solarwinds screensaver by editing a config ?
[09:21] <dxdt> oh.  so it all just needs relinked and stuffs?
[09:22] <magnetron> !sudo > dxdt
[09:22] <kbrooks> dxdt, they shoul not do root, because it makes things hard for the user.
[09:22] <perlmonkey> kbrooks: it didnt work :( I did "ssh -X 192.168.1.1.5" and it connected to the server machine but just returned the shell prompt on server, no X session
[09:22] <kbrooks> perlmonkey, confused.
[09:22] <Zee1ot> I am trying to mount a drive with sshfs but it asks for a password and I dont know which
[09:22] <Carleton91> lite-X, one way to log in as root is to go to System > Administration > Users and Groups, then click root, properties and set a password.  Next you have to go to System > Administration > Login Window > Security then check the box that says allow local administrator to login
[09:22] <dxdt> kbrooks: I disagree with you.  You should inform the user and let them choose.  Not just remove the page because you think it is better for them.
[09:22] <kbrooks> perlmonkey, echo DISPLAY
[09:22] <Pici> perlmonkey: fyi, you have a few too many octets in that ip address.
[09:22] <perlmonkey> ok
[09:22] <kbrooks> dxdt, really?
[09:22] <magnetron> perlmonkey: it will return a shell prompt, but let you run X apps. try running gaim
[09:22] <Pici> !offtopic  | dxdt
[09:22] <ubotu> dxdt: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:23] <dxdt> absolutely.  it is all about choice in the gnu world
[09:23] <root__> someone explain this to me http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/2761/screenshotmq1.png
[09:23] <beni> Hello guys, My old 200Mhz box is just too old to install Ubuntu-Server / Desktop (It doesnt like the cd's filesystem). Is there any other linux distro which could maybe run on this PC? It is still running Win95..
[09:23] <capiira> i would like to change the solarwinds screensaver from random to a fixed version
[09:23] <kbrooks> dxdt, not for new users.
[09:23] <perlmonkey> oh right I see
[09:23] <root__> beni: gentoo
[09:23] <kbrooks> dxdt, new users shouldn't have too much choice. it is very confusing for them
[09:23] <gnomefreak> kbrooks and dv_ please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:23] <gnomefreak> dxdt: ^^
[09:23] <perlmonkey> I misunderstood
[09:24] <ccoffey> I'm not looking for some to walk me through this, but before i begin, is it possible to install ubuntu onto Fakeraid, and lvm?
[09:24] <perlmonkey> I thought it would make the present X session on the server appear on my screen here, all the existing open windows etc
[09:24] <beni> root__: why gentoo?
[09:24] <Pici> capiira: Unfortunately, gnome-screensaver doesnt allow you to change its settings at this time.  I dont agree with the decision to remove configuring so dont complain ;)
[09:24] <kbrooks> perlmonkey, summarised: 3D will work (with significant lag unless done over a LAN) if the client has a 3D card.
[09:24] <magnetron> perlmonkey: unfortunately not. but try to run nautilus
[09:24] <mateiru> hello
[09:25] <capiira> pici there is sure a config somewhere
[09:25] <mateiru> could somebody help me with setting up my wireless conection
[09:25] <kbrooks> dxdt, go to #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to debate further
[09:25] <mateiru> ?
[09:26] <magnetron> mateiru: welcome. feel free to ask any questions about wireless in Ubuntu.
[09:26] <fevel> can someone help me with my locale settings? in Brazil there is a letter c with a coma under it but in my ubuntu it appears over it ''
[09:26] <capiira> i know solarwinds have different themes and i would lkike to set a different theme
[09:26] <fevel> can someone help me fix this issue?
[09:26] <mateiru> thanks
[09:26] <ubuntu> are you real
[09:26] <ubuntu> ??
[09:26] <ubuntu> or bots
[09:26] <vox754> fevel, you probably have the wrong keyboard setting.
[09:26] <PriceChild> ubuntu, most are real.
[09:26] <dxdt> all bots.  But very smart bots.
[09:26] <kbrooks> magnetron, are you in #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[09:26] <beni> we're bots
[09:26] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: little bit of both
[09:26] <magnetron> ubuntu, we are real allright
[09:26] <magnetron> kbrooks: yes
[09:27] <imbecile> where in my filesystem would i find my external drives? im trying to add them to amarok
[09:27] <erUSUL> fevel: Sistema>Soporte de idiomas (linguaxe) ?? System>Language support
[09:27] <shwouchk> NigelS: any ideas?
[09:27] <mateiru> i have a laptop and i can connect to my router through the wireless connection. However i have no internet connection. When i check in the network settings a wireless connection is listed how ever when i did a ifconfig i saw no wlan
[09:27] <erUSUL> fevel: System>Preferences>keyboard
[09:27] <NigelS> ubuntu: I'm strictly speaking an ajunct of unimatrix 0x5A but retain some humanity
[09:28] <ubuntu> can you speak german too?
[09:28] <root__> beni: its small
[09:28] <root__> debian too
[09:28] <mateiru> ?
[09:29] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: did you try #ubuntu-de for german
[09:29] <Upsal> apt-get says that i have to insert data into /cdrom, but i have no cd-drive, and i want to use a mounted ISO image, how can i do that?
[09:29] <gnomefreak> Upsal: disable the cdrom repo in /etc/apt/sources.list and enable the internet repos
[09:30] <ubuntu> thx
[09:30] <Carleton91> how do I make it so I don't see when people leave or join the room?
[09:30] <ubuntu> and bye
[09:30] <Carleton91> I'm using Gaim
[09:30] <dxdt> Upsal: if you have an internet connection, the easiest way is to do sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the cdrom repo with a # sign.  Then it should use the itnernet.
[09:30] <MegaUbuntuNoob> does someone know a good burner
[09:30] <Upsal> ok thx
[09:30] <beni> I'm assuming my system is no i386, how can i determine which chipset it is?
[09:30] <ccoffey> MegaUbuntuNoob: software?
[09:30] <dxdt> MegaUbuntuNoob: I like k3b personally.  Other people liek Gnome Baker
[09:30] <ianmcorvidae> beni: uname -a
[09:30] <gnomefreak> Carleton91: it depends on the client most of the time /help will help you or ask in #freenode
[09:30] <dxdt> beni: what processor you have?
[09:30] <MegaUbuntuNoob> kb3
[09:30] <beni> dxdt: I dunno Pentium 1 200Mhz
[09:31] <dxdt> beni: that is above i386
[09:31] <dxdt> you should be fien
[09:31] <Luca> hi all
[09:31] <jkmz52> is there a channel for apt?
[09:31] <MegaUbuntuNoob> k3b plz
[09:31] <Luca> how can i access my ubuntu files from windows vista ?
[09:31] <gnomefreak> jkmz52: not really what do you need
[09:31] <ianmcorvidae> Luca: You'll need to find an ext3 extension for windows.
[09:31] <gnomefreak> Luca: ask in ##windows
[09:31] <ianmcorvidae> But yes.
[09:31] <ccoffey> Luca: if it's ext3, you can use the driver from www.fs-driver.org
[09:32] <MegaUbuntuNoob> whats k3b code?
[09:32] <Luca> ccoffey tried but it doesnt work with the 500 gb disk i have
[09:32] <dxdt> MegaUbuntuNoob: no, k3b is the name of a burning program
[09:32] <MegaUbuntuNoob> yeah i know
[09:32] <b0ne> Luca: http://google.com/search?q=file+sharing+windows+ubuntu
[09:32] <MegaUbuntuNoob> but you got to istall it by a code
[09:32] <Carleton91> How do I enable universe repos?
[09:32] <gnomefreak> !universe | Carleton91
[09:32] <ubotu> Carleton91: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:33] <jkmz52> I jsut installed ubuntu form a live cd that is about six months old and i'm trying to apt-get packages which i know are on apt since i have used apt to get them on other computers and i get this E: couldn't find package
[09:33] <ccoffey> Luca: yeah, it's hit and miss a bit, works fine on a 30gb portable i use, but not my / or /home dir. you'll just have to make a shared fat32 partition or something
[09:33] <dxdt> MegaUbuntuNoob: oh.  then I don't know what you are asking then for sure?  How to get it?  Oh.  You can install programs either using the command line or by using synaptic.(which is a gui with buttons and mouse and stuffs)  from the command line it would be sudo aptitude install k3b
[09:33] <gnychis> how do you print with lpr? i keep getting lpr: Error - no default destination available.
[09:33] <cyberphaz> there anything like gdesklets with more apps?
[09:33] <Luca> ccoffey it did work with xp ... now on vista doesnt :)
[09:33] <peterD> I am with an uncle here and I have installed ubuntu but I dont have the option to set the resolution higher than 800x600 in the gnome panel, but I see 1024 in the xorg.conf
[09:33] <Luca> b0ne wtf is that ?
[09:33] <DK> hi all
[09:33] <ccoffey> Luca: ah, ok, i've not tried it from vista.
[09:34] <gnomefreak> Luca: go  ask in ##windows they would know
[09:34] <b0ne> a search query for how to share files between ubuntu and vista
[09:34] <DK> I'm having a problem with openoffice packages... they seem to have broken since the last update
[09:34] <dxdt> peterD: check to make sure you have the right refresh rates in xorg.conf in my experience that is the problem if xorg says a higher res but gnome won't let you.
[09:34] <b0ne> er windows*
[09:34] <DK> can anybody please help?
[09:34] <mateiru> i have a laptop and i can connect to my router through the wireless connection. However i have no internet connection. When i check in the network settings a wireless connection is listed how ever when i did a ifconfig i saw no wlan
[09:34] <nussgipfel> hi
[09:34] <Luca> b0ne i dont want no " share " .... i want to browser the files
[09:34] <b0ne> are you dual booted?
[09:35] <DK> this is my broken file: /var/cache/apt/archives/openoffice.org-common_2.2.0-1ubuntu4_all.deb
[09:35] <DK> i've removed this, and synaptic has downloaded it again and again, always broken
[09:35] <gnomefreak> Luca: ask in ##windows since you need a windows app for this.
[09:35] <gnomefreak> unop
[09:35] <Luca> yeah but they dont know
[09:35] <user__> euhm, guys, sry for little off topic, but have a little question, is here someone of old ut goty fans?:)
[09:36] <capiira> pici http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Gnomescreensaver_tweaks#Adjust_screensaver_settings_in_gnome-screensaver
[09:36] <gnomefreak> Luca: this is not a windows support channel
[09:36] <vox754> Luca, the driver is mostly for XP and Windows 2000, so it may not work for Vista anymore. You may be out of luck.
[09:36] <capiira> that is what i was looking for
[09:36] <gnomefreak> Luca: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:36] <Anlar> luca: www.sf.net and search for ext2 and ext3, that will give you correct software.. and don't mind the asshole zealots here
[09:36] <peterD> dxdt: where do I set the refresh rate in xorg.conf?
[09:36] <b0ne> Luca: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[09:36] <bulmer> mateiru: how do you know you are connected to your AP/router?
[09:36] <b0ne> ext2/ext3 fs driver for windows
[09:36] <baconbacon> Hi, i'm looking for a way to tell ubuntu to use the hostname received from dhcp and not look at /etc/hostname
[09:36] <Luca> Anlar thank you
[09:36] <freewilly> you must find out the refreshrate capabilties of your monitor
[09:36] <ccoffey> b0ne: that was suggest by me ages ago, it doesn't work in vista
[09:36] <Luca> b0ne tried
[09:37] <dxdt> peterD: ummm  I can't really say exactly off the top of my head and I'm not at my computer.  Usually they are commented and in there.  you can then either read the specs for your monitor or just guess some ranges and try with trial and error
[09:37] <b0ne> well, perhaps you could create a different partition that is something windows can understand like fat32
[09:37] <mateiru> i got it to work, thanks anyways
[09:37] <Grifer> wtf??? I had to set Wine to be windows 98 to be able to make windows 98 boot floppy! FYI, win95 didn't work. GG, microshit!
[09:37] <gnomefreak> Luca: you are muted for 10 minutes now for not moving it to a differnet channel
[09:37] <PriceChild> !ohmy | Grifer
[09:37] <ubotu> Grifer: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:37] <jimmygoodboy> sorry to bother, but ubuntu newb here, installing ubuntu dapper on a machine at work for some development.... and when i do a sudo apt-get update i get a tone of connection failed messages, followed by some ips, and the http:// addresses..... what am i missing..and yes, i do know i'm in the internet, because i'm sitting on the machine right now....
[09:37] <freewilly> if you have a satisfying screen/resolution in windows ,you can copy the nvidia/ati timing from the driver
[09:38] <freewilly> in a modeline in your xorg.conf
[09:38] <DK> hi i'm having a problem with this broken file: /var/cache/apt/archives/openoffice.org-common_2.2.0-1ubuntu4_all.deb
[09:38] <gnomefreak> DK: todays update on feisty?
[09:38] <jeff_> why is there no passivetex package in Ubuntu Feisty?
[09:38] <DK> yes
[09:38] <DK> gnome: yes
[09:38] <gnomefreak> DK: its a known problem its being worked on
[09:39] <gnomefreak> well it was an hour ago :)
[09:39] <NigelS> shwouchk: I can't see that anyone has said that wpa2 can't work with that card; this guide suggests particular drivers: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190177 other than that, what steps have you followed to enable wpa2?
[09:39] <DK> gnome: oh... can i revert it to the previous open office version somehow?
[09:40] <freewilly> no matter how nice the gnome-displa setiings is
[09:40] <DK> otherwise, i have no open office to use and I was writing a cv
[09:40] <gnomefreak> DK: if the other version is in apt-cache show openoffice.org you can sudo apt-get install openoffice.org=fullversionhere
[09:40] <freewilly> it will with some monitors not give you a nice filling screen
[09:41] <DK> gnome: oh, thank you
[09:41] <Holty101> i have installed c++ just wondering how do i run the program to create my own code
[09:41] <ccoffey> I'm not looking for some to walk me through this, but before i begin, is it possible to install ubuntu onto Fakeraid, and lvm?
[09:42] <gnychis> does anyone know of a good way to print source code?  whenever I just 'lpr' a .c or .cc file, the font is huge and it ends up using like 40 pages
[09:42] <magnetron> !lvm | ccoffey
[09:42] <ubotu> ccoffey: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[09:42] <dv_> security.ubuntu.com is slow as hell. many users upgrading?
[09:42] <vox754> Holty101, go to ubuntuforums.org there is a subforums dedicated to programming, read the guides.
[09:42] <Holty101> cheers
[09:42] <KI4IKL> I typed metacity, it said it had to replace my current window manager...does that mean i'm not running gnome anymore?
[09:42] <stefg> ccoffey: you need an alternate install CD for that
[09:42] <erUSUL> gnychis: usa some beatifier like a2ps or highlight
[09:43] <MegaUbuntuNoob> dxdt: doesnt work
[09:43] <erUSUL> use*
[09:43] <lesshaste> anyone got a good solution for converting svg to pdf?
[09:43] <ccoffey> stefg: to do both at once, the fakeraid has to be done from the live, and the lvm has to be done from alt
[09:43] <b0ne> first link on google by searching svg and pdf returns a kevlindev, converting svg's to pdf's
[09:44] <MegaUbuntuNoob> am i the only one with only ubuntu as OS
[09:44] <stefg> ccoffey: the desktop installer can neither handle raid, nor lvm.
[09:44] <vox754> MegaUbuntuNoob, indeed
[09:44] <jimmygoodboy> anyone here have a clue why apt-get update won't work in my dapper install?
[09:44] <ccoffey> stefg: it's fake raid, using dmraid,
[09:44] <aceofbytes> Good day ladies and gentlemen. How's everyone tonight?
[09:44] <tarzeau> MegaUbuntuNoob: i'm a UltraUbuntuNoob (UltraSPARC)
[09:45] <pyron84> hello guys
[09:45] <imbecile> where in my filesystem would i find my external drives? im trying to add music from them to amarok
[09:45] <magnetron> !support
[09:45] <ubotu> support is The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org
[09:45] <MegaUbuntuNoob> does nobody has only ubuntu as OS
[09:45] <Hor|zon> MegaUbuntuNoob, a lot of people need windows for their jobs and a vm isn't always a solution
[09:45] <stefg> !alternate | ccoffey, i thought that
[09:45] <ubotu> ccoffey, i thought that: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[09:45] <ccoffey> stefg: you can apt-get it form the liove disc, which i don't see how you can do that with the alt disc
[09:45] <magnetron> MegaUbuntuNoob: a lot of use here use Ubuntu as our OS
[09:45] <MegaUbuntuNoob> i see
[09:45] <Ominous_> anyidea why when i run a .sh script from command line ssh the sh file works and the svn and lua bat files work but when i run it from a cron job it dosent work and errors the command lua dosent exist etc
[09:45] <vox754> jimmygoodboy, maybe you have the latest updates. Also, the servers are down.
[09:45] <pyron84> @ imbecile you can mount them directly by plugin it in
[09:45] <pyron84> than right click on it
[09:45] <xst> In a shell script I need to store the output of a command into a variable. Also I need to check the exit status. How can I do that?
[09:46] <MegaUbuntuNoob> magnetron: form wich country are you
[09:46] <Hor|zon> MegaUbuntuNoob, yeah ubuntu is the main OS but it doesn't mean we don't have any other OS...including other unix
[09:46] <jimmygoodboy> vox: no, it's a fresh install, just finished it...how long will the servers be down?
[09:46] <gnomefreak> !no support is <reply> the official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org
[09:46] <ubotu> I'll remember that gnomefreak
[09:46] <stefg> ccoffey: the desktop installer does not allow any lvm-setup, and can't handle raid-boots. ALternate is a completly different install procedure
[09:46] <vox754> jimmygoodboy, nobody knows. Just be patient.
[09:46] <MegaUbuntuNoob> can you everything with ubuntu just like microsoft?
[09:46] <imbecile> pyron84,  its already mounted.. i need to find it though
[09:46] <jimmygoodboy> vox: thank you
[09:46] <MegaUbuntuNoob> do*
[09:46] <pyron84> Can anybody help me, my Remote doesn throw events and i don know why
[09:46] <lesshaste> how do I get acroread ?
[09:47] <magnetron> MegaUbuntuNoob: this channel is for support, join #ubuntu-offtopic for some social chatter
[09:47] <chadeldridg1> I just uninstalled beryl and now all my windows are missing title bars.  I was able to manually start metacity, but i get this message in the terminal:  Window manager warning: "" found in configuration database is not a valid value for keybinding "toggle_shaded"
[09:47] <gnomefreak> jimmygoodboy: are you using us.archive.ubuntu mirrors?
[09:47] <lesshaste> it isn't in any of my repos listed it seems
[09:47] <b0ne> MegaUbuntuNoob: not everything no, there are things that both platforms can do that the other cannot
[09:47] <ccoffey> stefg: i know the differecne between them, you setup dmraid first in the live environment. I don't see how you can add an extra package to the alt disc.
[09:47] <lite-X> i dont think no ones no what i mean when i go to install ubunto on my hardrive it say somthinkk like i need to fix root or make a root or partion a root
[09:47] <jimmygoodboy> gnome: i'm trying to use whatever the default mirrors are in the install.....are they different now? been awhile since i've installed...
[09:47] <pyron84> @ imbecile /media/ than the name of it
[09:47] <MegaUbuntuNoob> i have a old computer can i have 2 OS?
[09:47] <jimmygoodboy> gnome: one sec and i'll tell you what they are
[09:47] <gnomefreak> jimmygoodboy: us mirrors are not as good as others.
[09:48] <shwouchk> NigelS: I set up wpa_supplicant
[09:48] <magnetron> MegaUbuntuNoob: yes, if you have enough space for them
[09:48] <stefg> ccoffey: no extra package... it's a completly different installer
[09:48] <gnomefreak> jimmygoodboy: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and pastebin the file
[09:48] <shwouchk> NigelS: and also tried with networkmanager
[09:48] <MegaUbuntuNoob> ok
[09:48] <jimmygoodboy> jimmygoodboy: sorry, i'm a newb...pastebin?
[09:48] <imbecile> pyron84,  thanks
[09:48] <gnomefreak> !pastebin | jimmygoodboy
[09:48] <ubotu> jimmygoodboy: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:48] <Rakdos> wheres the graphics channel?
[09:48] <jimmygoodboy> rofl...i'm a moron
[09:49] <IndyGunFreak> Rakdos: graphics channel?
[09:49] <baconbacon> I have such an entry in dhcp.conf and the client gets 10.1.1.8 correctly but doesn't update its hostname : host node8 { option host-name "node8"; hardware ethernet 00:04:76:e3:xx:xx; fixed-address 10.1.1.8;}. Can anybody help me set the hostname via dhcp? (this is a shared nfs setup so no /etc/hostname)
[09:49] <gnomefreak> Rakdos: here or in #ubuntu-effects
[09:49] <Rakdos> for compiz
[09:49] <MegaUbuntuNoob> ubuntu is kinda weird if you always worked with microsoft
[09:49] <Rakdos> ahh
[09:49] <gnomefreak> Rakdos: #ubuntu-effect
[09:49] <gnomefreak> s
[09:49] <IndyGunFreak> !compiz
[09:49] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:49] <ccoffey> stefg: yes, i know, that's what i've been saying, dmraid you've to do through live, and lvm trhough alt. remember dmraid is fakeraid, and it's not part of the alt disc. my question was is it possible to install onto a lvm on a fakeraid/dmraid
[09:49] <LinfortheWi1> is there a way to change the default dimentions of the icons that are shown on the desktop?
[09:49] <b0ne> stefg: why not use regular soft-raid?
[09:50] <b0ne> i'm using it on a new box i set up, and there is seemingly no difference other than the much easier setup
[09:50] <LucianIndy> this works for a drag and drop effect in a launcher: gksudo "gnome-open %u" so why doesn't this gksudo || "chown root %u" || "chmod 700 %u" || "chgrp root %u"
[09:50] <ccoffey> b0ne: dual boot
[09:50] <Hor|zon> LinfortheWi1, change the nautilus zoom
[09:50] <chadeldridg1> LinfortheWi1:  i think you can do it in gconf-editor
[09:50] <b0ne> windows supports software raid as well
[09:50] <b0ne> at least with 2k+ i think
[09:50] <ccoffey> yes, but that'll be messy, seeing as their a dmraid driver out there
[09:50] <jimmygoodboy> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29528/
[09:50] <pyron84> 20cm sind in wirklichkeit viel grer
[09:50] <stefg> guys, is it so hard to accept that ubiquity (the live installer) is simply too stupid for setting up mdadm, lvm and stuff? YOU NEED ALTERNATE...
[09:50] <Upsal> i'm having a problem when running ./configure: "configure: error: No curses header-files found", how can i solve it?
[09:51] <gnomefreak> !headers | Upsal
[09:51] <ubotu> Upsal: To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[09:51] <Upsal> thx _o_
[09:51] <gnomefreak> jimmygoodboy: you see all the lines with us.archive?
[09:51] <jimmygoodboy> yeah
[09:51] <gnomefreak> replace us. with gb.
[09:51] <chadeldridg1> Upsal:  try to sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic
[09:51] <baconbacon> MegaUbuntuNoob: After using almost exclusively Ubuntu since 5.04 is out, I now struggle to be productive on Windows. the adaptation goes both ways
[09:52] <blizzow> Does the latest ubuntu offer the option encrypting the / and swap filesystems during installation?
[09:52] <jimmygoodboy> what is gb?
[09:52] <gnomefreak> jimmygoodboy: save than close it let me know when done
[09:52] <pyron84> CAN anybody help me setting up a remote control ?
[09:52] <DK> how do i check for updates from synaptic? using the "reload" button?
[09:52] <gnomefreak> great britin
[09:52] <jimmygoodboy> mk
[09:52] <gnomefreak> (sp) :(
[09:52] <MegaUbuntuNoob> i see
[09:52] <NigelS> shwouchk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsBroadcom <-- it seems not to work so well according to the hardware db.  It might be down to the particular windows driver you're using, the .inf etc but that's just speculation I'm afraid
[09:52] <baconbacon> blizzow: I think so but you'll need the alternate install cd for these features
[09:52] <chadeldridg1>  I just uninstalled beryl and now all my windows are missing title bars.  I was able to manually start metacity, but i get this message in the terminal:  Window manager warning: "" found in configuration database is not a valid value for keybinding "toggle_shaded"
[09:52] <LinfortheWi1> Hor|zon: how can i change the nautilus zoom?
[09:52] <gnomefreak> jimmygoodboy: they are the first to get updated and 99% of time are online where as us is online 50% of time
[09:53] <shwouchk> NigelS: I see :(
[09:53] <gnomefreak> uk and gb are first
[09:53] <Stanislav25sf> ..
[09:53] <MegaUbuntuNoob> but ive i install 2 OS how can i choose with one im gone to use?
[09:53] <gnomefreak> jimmygoodboy: dont close it yet
[09:53] <gnomefreak> jimmygoodboy: are you on 32bit?
[09:53] <NigelS> shwouchk: try out a different one - the one from broadcom. not dell perhaps.  Otherwise follow some of the guides you can see by googling for your chipset and wpa2 that people have made on hte net
[09:53] <jimmygoodboy> gnomefreak: hmm..maybe i just have a problem with the internal network..same errors
[09:53] <jimmygoodboy> yes, i am
[09:54] <gnomefreak> jimmygoodboy: you got same errors after saving and running sudo apt-get update?
[09:54] <KWhat> do apt based distro's have a method of listing all installed packages ?
[09:54] <shwouchk> NigelS: that was already done... I guess Ill return to the hunt. Thanks!
[09:54] <jimmygoodboy> gnome: one sec, i'll pastebin for ya
[09:54] <gnomefreak> KWhat: yes dpkg -l iirc
[09:55] <blizzow> baconbacon: what cd or dvd should I download?
[09:55] <gnomefreak> KWhat: you might want to pipe that less
[09:55] <jimmygoodboy> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29532/
[09:55] <jokersmild> howdy y'all
[09:55] <EADG_> set theme evilday
[09:55] <joga> hi, does anyone else get an md5sum mismatch for flashplugin-nonfree?
[09:55] <pyron84> CAN anybody help me setting up a remote control ?
[09:55] <EADG_> opps
[09:55] <gnomefreak> jimmygoodboy: that would be the issue
[09:55] <pyron84> CAN anybody help me setting up a remote control ?
[09:55] <chadeldridg1> Anyone know how to fix this: Window manager warning: "" found in configuration database is not a valid value for keybinding "toggle_shaded"
[09:55] <gnomefreak> jimmygoodboy: restart and see if it helps
[09:55] <KWhat> gnomefreak: can you pastie me some sample output so i can figure out how to parse it with out installing one of the distros =)
[09:56] <jimmygoodboy> gnomefreak: mk, sorry to have wasted your time...
[09:56] <jokersmild> is there anybody here that has gotten a pvr-150 to work with mythTV?
[09:56] <gnomefreak> KWhat: ii ==installed
[09:56] <jimmygoodboy> thanks for all the help
[09:56] <MegaUbuntuNoob> if i have 2 OS how can i choose with one im gon to use??
[09:56] <Hor|zon> LinfortheWi1, in nautilus preferences, change the default icon view zoom
[09:56] <pyron84> CAN anybody help me setting up a remote control ?
[09:56] <EADG_> MegaUbuntuNoob: Grub
[09:56] <gnomefreak> KWhat: you might want to open synaptic and view installed packages
[09:56] <chadeldridg1> !grub | MegaUbuntuNoob
[09:56] <ubotu> MegaUbuntuNoob: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:56] <gnomefreak> KWhat: easier to read ;)
[09:57] <stefg> jokersmild: that's a pretty common setup. check the mythtv-wiki, or join #mythtv-users
[09:57] <pyron84> @MegaUbuntuNoob if you first installed windows, and then ubuntu, you can automaticly choose it @ boottime via a boot manager named grub
[09:57] <KWhat> gnomefreak: i really just need to run something like rpm -qa or equery -Ciop list | awk -F/ '{print $2}' | uniq for apt based distros =)
[09:57] <MegaUbuntuNoob> ok but now i only have ubuntu
[09:57] <Rhynri> hey, how do you change backlight brightness on a macbook?
[09:57] <pyron84> than i got no idea
[09:58] <stefg> !grub | MegaUbuntuNoob
[09:58] <ubotu> MegaUbuntuNoob: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:58] <MegaUbuntuNoob> im going to instal windows
[09:58] <MegaUbuntuNoob> not for now
[09:58] <MegaUbuntuNoob> first 7.04 update
[09:58] <gnomefreak> !enter | MegaUbuntuNoob
[09:58] <ubotu> MegaUbuntuNoob: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:59] <KWhat> lol
[09:59] <Rhynri> is it just me or are the package servers REALLY slow today
[09:59] <baconbacon> Rhynri: I noticed security.ubuntu.com has a slowdown
[10:00] <LucianIndy> my first machine did an update today very slow but my second was really fast for the other machine
[10:00] <Rhynri> baconbacon - yeah, i'm getting like 10kb/sec if i actually connect
[10:00] <NigelS> Rhynri: yeah, I time out trying to get to security
[10:00] <Rhynri> not to mention this fruiting backlight problem is driving me nuts
[10:00] <Tired_1> I haven't been able to connect to security.ubuntu.com for a couple of days now
[10:00] <albreche> Hi, is there a package that install imap-2006 src ?
[10:01] <Rhynri> people are like (in the wiki) "you don't have to install macbacklight in 7.04" and then neglect to tell you how you do change it.
[10:01] <LucianIndy> !question | ubotu
[10:01] <ubotu> ubotu: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:01] <LucianIndy> heh
[10:02] <IndyGunFreak> !botabuse | LucianIndy
[10:02] <ubotu> LucianIndy: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[10:02] <IndyGunFreak> :)
[10:02] <Rhynri> so, anyone know how to enlighten me? (turn the backlight up?)
[10:02] <LucianIndy> !
[10:02] <LinfortheWi1> Hor|zon: thank you. could you tell me where i find nautilus preferences also? (sorry, i'm new to linux)
[10:03] <IndyGunFreak> Rhynri: have you tried your monitor settings?
[10:03] <MegaUbuntuNoob> how do i instal gnomebaker??
[10:03] <Ghaz> does ubuntu support .rar archives?
[10:03] <LucianIndy> MegaUbuntuNoob, in terminal: sudo apt-get install gnomebaker
[10:03] <Rhynri> IndyGunFreak: on a macbook?
[10:03] <IndyGunFreak> !rar | Ghaz
[10:03] <ubotu> Ghaz: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[10:03] <angel> Help how can i install skype-1.4.0.74.deb in ubuntu
[10:03] <family> are there any good keyloggers for Linux?
[10:03] <jkmz52> is there a reason why the universe mirror in apt is not enabled by default in ubuntu?
[10:03] <MegaUbuntuNoob> thx
[10:03] <IndyGunFreak> Rhynri: i know nothing about macs, is thereno way to adjust screen brightness?
[10:04] <Ghaz> thank you
[10:04] <joga> apparently adobe has altered its flashplugin package...apt-get wouldn't install it, and when tried manually the installer had an obvious bug with install path input, so I just copied the plugin.so manually
[10:04] <IndyGunFreak> jkmz52: to make you think i guess....
[10:04] <IndyGunFreak> probably non-free stuff there
[10:04] <Hor|zon> LinfortheWi1, open a folder and click edit and preferences is in that menu
[10:04] <Rhynri> IndyGunFreak - acpi compatable monitors... something about not needing a macbacklight package in 7.04, but no one says how to do it without the package.
[10:04] <dxdt> angel: first google hit http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/
[10:04] <jkmz52> I know that universe is the default on debian
[10:04] <gnomefreak> joga: its being looked into
[10:04] <IndyGunFreak> Rhynri: sorry, i really don't know.
[10:05] <ccoffey> family: cat /dev/<keyboard? ?
[10:05] <SlimG> How to make this automatically create needed DIRs: rsync file ./nonexistingdirectory/file
[10:05] <Rhynri> IndyGunFreak: no problem
[10:05] <joga> gnomefreak  ok
[10:05] <jkmz52> ok, thanks
[10:05] <IndyGunFreak> jkmz52: well, you can always add whatever repository it is you want to your sources list
[10:05] <Rakdos> i have a resolution question  when i "sudo nvidia-settings" and set the resolution and save to xconfig and restart and it doesnt save any way to fix this?
[10:05] <pyron84> hihi
[10:05] <LinfortheWi1> Hor|zon: thanx! =)
[10:05] <Rhynri> is there a macbuntu channel?
[10:05] <angel> i have that now dxdt
[10:05] <gnomefreak> joga: let me rephrase that i let the devels know whats wrong one of the flash guys need to fix it (im not good with the scripts we use for flash)
[10:06] <family> ccoffey: how do I find out what the file name for my keyboard is?
[10:06] <Hor|zon> LinfortheWi1, you can also right-click the desktop icons and choose "stretch icon" if you don't want normal folder icons to be affected too
[10:06] <baconbacon> blizzow: You need to use the alternate desktop cd and configure your partitions manually with LVM. in the LVM setup there are options for encryption (sorry for the delay)
[10:06] <MegaUbuntuNoob> it doesnt work its say it doesnt go on 5.04
[10:07] <MegaUbuntuNoob> because there no updates for hoary.........
[10:07] <joga> gnomefreak I think ubuntu script is ok, but adobe, for some reason, has replaced the package; the MD5 sums mismatch, and the adobe installer script adds a redundant space to the install path string and refuses to install
[10:07] <ccoffey> family: xorg or something, if you want to keylog, i'll leave that to you
[10:07] <gnomefreak> joga: no its not
[10:07] <angel>  hellow
[10:07] <angel>  how to i install skypes
[10:07] <angel>  i already downloaded the file with a file ext of .deb
[10:07] <MegaUbuntuNoob> how can i install 7.04 without a burner???
[10:07] <gnomefreak> joga: flash packaged the new one with the same named tar as older one
[10:08] <mwe> !install | MegaUbuntuNoob
[10:08] <ubotu> MegaUbuntuNoob: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[10:08] <gnomefreak> joga: the script needs to be changed to use the new one
[10:08] <joga> gnomefreak well, yeah, but the contents aren't the same since the md5sums are not the same, right?
[10:08] <gnomefreak> joga: right
[10:08] <LinfortheWi1> Hor|zon: yes, i wanted to change all icons tho, :)
[10:08] <mwe> MegaUbuntuNoob, you have a few options
[10:08] <gnomefreak> same name differnet release
[10:08] <Rakdos> i have a resolution question  when i "sudo nvidia-settings" and set the resolution and save to xconfig and restart and it doesnt save any way to fix this?
[10:08] <angel>  hello how do I  install skypes i already downloaded the file with a file ext of .deb
[10:08] <joga> gnomefreak well, yes, in that respect the ubuntu script is out of date
[10:09] <kaje> I'm trying to install 7.04 on a server that has a bum CD... It boots off the CD and I'm given the various options like install, mem test, and so on... However, whenever it does anything even remotely intense with the CD, it locks up. So, is there some way to install via HTTP or something? I really don't want to go the TFTP route...
[10:09] <joga> though it doesn't really do things wrong
[10:09] <gnomefreak> joga: i spent 4+ hours fiddling with that last night trying to find _best_ way to solve it
[10:09] <ccoffey> angel: dpkg -i
[10:09] <dxdt> angel: you should just be able to double click it and gdebi should open and install it.  If not using the command line sudo dpkg -i filename
[10:09] <MegaUbuntuNoob> i have only the iso file i cant install without burning
[10:09] <aarcane> will the next official release of ubuntu include ipv6 support ?
[10:09] <joga> gnomefreak heh :)
[10:09] <mwe> angel, sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[10:09] <zerogx> hello, how can i disabled the graphical start up?
[10:09] <dxdt> aarcane: current release does and has for a while
[10:09] <kaje> zerogx: I think you can just hit escape when it comes up and it will switch to text mode
[10:09] <dxdt> aarcane: check your /etc/hosts file and I think there will even be left over stuff about it inside.
[10:09] <aarcane> dxdt, it seems to be unaware of my radvd broadcaster, and says no ipv6 routers present
[10:09] <angel> thx
[10:10] <mwe> zerogx, bum or rcconf might be easiest
[10:10] <gnomefreak> joga: no its doing it correctly but adobe isnt gonna change so we have to and there were ALOT of regressions in the new version is why we didnt update it yet. we need to find out if the regressions were fixed before we update it or flash is broken anyway
[10:10] <mwe> zerogx, disable gdm
[10:10] <dxdt> aarcane: unfortunately I can't really specifically help as I ahven't touched ipv6 that much
[10:10] <Upsal> i've installed both linux-headers-$(uname -r) and linux-headers-generic, but when i run ./configure i'm still getting: "configure: error: No curses header-files found"
[10:10] <family> ccoffey: okay, I've got it saving the input now, but how do I decode it? It's all meaningless bytes.. I need it to be in ASCII
[10:10] <kaje> zerogx: nm, I misread your question
[10:10] <zerogx> mwe: if i disable gdm will it load into X automatically on start up though?
[10:10] <gnomefreak> zerogx: no
[10:10] <mwe> Upsal, sudo apt-get install ncurses5-dev
[10:11] <zerogx> kaje: haha k
[10:11] <aarcane> dxdt, thanks anyway.  I know it's a bug with several kernels, and the version in ubuntu matches one of the known broken kernels
[10:11] <gnomefreak> gdm == login screen for most part
[10:11] <ccoffey> family: write a sed script, or some perl or something
[10:11] <joga> gnomefreak ah, ok...so now one of my puters has poopy flash ;)
[10:11] <dxdt> aarcane: ahh
[10:11] <mwe> Upsal, err libncurses5-dev, I think. sorry
[10:11] <family> ccoffey: there isn't a program that does this stuff already?
[10:11] <kaje> anyone have any suggestions on how to install 7.04 via a network or some other method? I have a USB cd drive that's working, but I think I'd have to find a boot floppy...
[10:12] <ccoffey> family: i've no idea, i can't see why you'd need a keylogger
[10:12] <ibt> family: this isn't the place to ask those sort of questions
[10:12] <gnomefreak> joga: you can try to use the .deb in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[10:12] <mwe> kaje installing over the network is described on the wiki. I did it a few times
[10:12] <gnomefreak> see if that will help :) sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[10:12] <Upsal> thx mwe
[10:12] <family> ccoffey: it's for my mom's computer. She always used one in Windows because she used it to retreive information if she loses something
[10:12] <mwe> Upsal, uw
[10:12] <joga> gnomefreak thanks for the info
[10:13] <kaje> mwe: did you have to set up a TFTP server and all that jazz?
[10:13] <pliz> SUSPEND QUESTION: I use ubuntu feisty. Suspend works, but after a couple of suspends the machine does not resume. Does anyone have a similar problem?
[10:13] <mwe> kaje, yeah, but it was really easy following the guide. do you plan installing from windows or linux?
[10:13] <Rhynri> What is the usual method of changing the backlight via console?
[10:14] <pablo_>  hi, i am on a live cd, how can i mount my hd (it has ext3 partitions)
[10:14] <kaje> I can do either, which would you recommend mwe?
[10:14] <ccoffey> family: I could think of far better ways of doing that
[10:14] <pliz> pablo_, go to System->Disks
[10:14] <family> ccoffey: like what?
[10:15] <ccoffey> family: decent backups. there's be so much crap just logging keys
[10:15] <pliz> Pablo, find you hard drive and the partition you need, specify mount point and press mount
[10:15] <mwe> kaje, either, but doing it from windows is probably easiest
[10:15] <pablo_> pliz: ok, and then_
[10:15] <mwe> kaje, it's pretty much a point and click procedure
[10:16] <gnomefreak> family: we have backup tools that allows you to choice the partition the files the folders ect.. :) see !backup
[10:16] <pliz> pablo_, sorry, system->administration->disks
[10:16] <kaje> sorry to be a pain, can you give me a link? I'm not having luck googling it
[10:16] <pliz> pablo_,  find you hard drive and the partition you need, specify mount point and press mount
[10:16] <mwe> !install | kaje
[10:16] <ubotu> kaje: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[10:16] <family> gnomefreak: yes, I realise this. But that's not the way she wants to do it :P
[10:16] <IndyGunFreak> Rhynri: use at your own risk... don't know if it works or not.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149539
[10:16] <mwe> kaje, I think the first link from ubotu has the link
[10:16] <pliz> pablo_, then just open nautilus at the mount point you have specified
[10:17] <Rakdos> i have a resolution question  when i "sudo nvidia-settings" and set the resolution and save to xconfig and restart and it doesnt save any way to fix this?
[10:17] <pliz> Anyone with suspend problem?
[10:17] <cerda> i need some help
[10:17] <pablo_> pliz: and how do i open nautilus once i am there_
[10:18] <mwe> kaje, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot
[10:18] <gnomefreak> !ask | cerda
[10:18] <ubotu> cerda: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:18] <jabon> #ubuntu-es
[10:18] <pablo_> pliz: found it, thanks
[10:18] <pliz> pablo_, have you mounted your hard drive? then just go Places->Computer
[10:18] <cerda> airight, well im trying to install i know the cd is good, i go into it and it gets to the Ubuntu logo with the bar going back and forth and just stays like that
[10:19] <pliz> pablo_, no problem
[10:19] <aarcane> cerda, if you need some help, you should contact your local psychologists office.  if you feel it's an emergency, please disconnect from IRC immediately, and call 911
[10:19] <aarcane> cerda, everything is going to be okay.  the men in white lab coats are on their way :)
[10:19] <gnomefreak> cerda: are you sure the md5sum is correct and did you burn it on lowest speed possible
[10:20] <MegaNoobUbuntu> need a burning program plss
[10:20] <gnomefreak> cerda: your issue sounds like a bad iso or bad burn
[10:20] <pliz> guys, since no one can help me with my suspend problem here, can anyone recommend another channel?
[10:20] <cables> !burn | MegaNoobUbuntu
[10:20] <gnomefreak> MegaNoobUbuntu: gnomebaker
[10:20] <ubotu> MegaNoobUbuntu: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[10:20] <pliz> where I can ask I mean
[10:20] <cables> MegaNoobUbuntu, for Windows or for Ubuntu?
[10:20] <MegaNoobUbuntu> ubuntu
[10:20] <stefg> !support | pliz
[10:20] <ubotu> pliz: the official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org
[10:20] <cerda_> sorry, i disconected did somone answer my question
[10:20] <cables> MegaNoobUbuntu, well, Ubuntu has one built in, but a better one is Brasero, which you can install via Add/Remove.
[10:21] <cables> MegaNoobUbuntu, There's also GnomeBaker, but I find Brasero much nicer.
[10:21] <IndyGunFreak> MegaNoobUbuntu: what do you want to do?..
[10:21] <gnomefreak> cerda: check md5sum than if good reburn iso on lowest possible speed
[10:21] <pliz> ubotu, I am not on #ubuntu?
[10:21] <IndyGunFreak> I really like Gnomebaker
[10:21] <cables> IndyGunFreak, have you tried Brasero?
[10:21] <IndyGunFreak> cables: negative
[10:21] <IndyGunFreak> pretty good?
[10:21] <cerda_> so does anyone know wats wrong
[10:21] <pliz> stefg, thanks
[10:21] <MegaNoobUbuntu> look
[10:21] <gnomefreak> pliz: a bot can care less where you are :) read the rest of it
[10:21] <cables> MegaNoobUbuntu, if all you want to do is burn some files, an ISO, copy a disc, or burn an audio CD, Ubuntu has all the necessary stuff built in. To erase a disc or do more advanced things, I recommend Brasero.
[10:22] <cables> IndyGunFreak, the UI is really nice
[10:22] <gnomefreak> cerda: i answere dyou 2 times already hint scroll upa  bit
[10:22] <MegaNoobUbuntu> im downloading the 7.04version of ubuntu and its an iso file
[10:22] <pliz> gnomefreak, I got it from a private message already ;) thanks
[10:22] <stefg> pliz: and as a hint: read the guide on asking questions as found in /topic
[10:22] <cables> MegaNoobUbuntu, you can just right click the ISO and hit Burn To Disc
[10:22] <IndyGunFreak> cables: hmm, ok, i'll check it out as soon as I'm done with these freakin updates that are taking forever.
[10:22] <cerda_> gnomefreak, yea sorry i got disconnected just before you did
[10:22] <gnomefreak> cerda_: you were back for second time hold on ill get it
[10:22] <cables> MegaNoobUbuntu, so you're using Ubuntu right now, but want to burn an Ubuntu disc?
[10:23] <gnomefreak> 16:21 <      gnomefreak > cerda: check md5sum than if good reburn iso on lowest  possible speed
[10:23] <cerda_> wats check md5sum
[10:23] <MegaNoobUbuntu> yes
[10:23] <cables> MegaNoobUbuntu, one thing about the built-in software is that sometimes it can be unreliable without some tweaking, which is why you should probably use GnomeBaker or Brasero.
[10:24] <gnomefreak> cerda_: if you verify that than its more than likely a graphics issue. cerda_ where you downloaded the iso from should have a folder with md5sums
[10:24] <gnomefreak> cerda_: to check file on pc for md5sum match in linus open terminal type md5sum /path/to/file.iso
[10:24] <gnomefreak> !verify | cerda_
[10:24] <aceofbytes> Who do I talk to about starting a new Ubuntu based project?
[10:24] <ubotu> cerda_: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[10:25] <ImLukeEkblad> I need help
[10:25] <CarmenSandiego> Can anybody point me to a HowTo for encrypting one's entire hard drive? Or at least the /home and swap partitions. dm-crypt looks like a good way to go
[10:25] <peter__> ik heb een andere monitor op deze pc gezet maar ik heb nog steeds alleen de keuze tussen 800x600 en 640x480
[10:25] <cables> !ask | ImLukeEkblad
[10:25] <ubotu> ImLukeEkblad: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:25] <MegaNoobUbuntu> i have gnomebaker but not yet installed i had problems with it installing him
[10:25] <citronio> i am having problems with my cd-dvd drive. who should I talk to?
[10:25] <cables> MegaNoobUbuntu, did you install it through Add/Remove? To install software in Ubuntu, just go to Applications>Add/Remove and select GnomeBaker.
[10:26] <cables> citronio, just ask your question or describe your problem here.
[10:26] <aceofbytes> Where do I find information about starting a new Ubuntu based project?
[10:26] <MegaNoobUbuntu> also if you have the 5.04 version of ubuntu?
[10:26] <ianmcorvidae> Random, does anyone else find it amusing that Corvinis-V's quit message had 'typos' spelled incorrectly?
[10:26] <ImLukeEkblad> http://lukeekblad.googlepages.com/grrrr  error message comes up when i click the add/remove thing
[10:26] <gnomefreak> aceofbytes: try #ubuntu-offtopic maybe? dont really know ;)
[10:27] <cables> MegaNoobUbuntu, hmm, I'm not sure if 5.04 has Add/Remove. Try opening a terminal (Applications>Accessories>Terminal) and typing < sudo apt-get install gnomebaker >
[10:27] <citronio> ok, i am unable to mount my cd-dvd drive. I get "mount: special device /dev/hda does not exist" every time I try
[10:27] <aceofbytes> gnomefreak: Thanks, I'll ask there.
[10:27] <MegaNoobUbuntu> i tried that it says that 5.04 cant update anymore
[10:28] <gnomefreak> MegaNoobUbuntu: you can use gksudo update-manager -c -d to bring you to 6.06 but if you want 7.04 reburn iso
[10:28] <ImLukeEkblad> I need help pleas.   http://lukeekblad.googlepages.com/grrrr  < that error message comes up when i click the add/remove thing
[10:28] <James> If I am running a ./configure --help is there a command I can type into shell to be able to scroll the various options in the document?
[10:28] <family> how can I find out what my keymap file is stored?
[10:28] <cables> ImLukeEkblad, open a terminal (go to Applications>Accessories>Terminal)
[10:28] <Rakdos> i have a resolution question  when i "sudo nvidia-settings" and set the resolution and save to xconfig and restart and it doesnt save any way to fix this? PM with response
[10:28] <troopperi_> !ntfs
[10:28] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[10:29] <troopperi_> !ntfs-3g
[10:29] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[10:29] <ImLukeEkblad> cables
[10:29] <MegaNoobUbuntu> and how do i use gksudo update manager??
[10:29] <cables> troopperi_, to access and write to NTFS drives from Ubuntu, go to Applications>Add/Remove, search for NTFS Configuration Tool, and install it.
[10:29] <ImLukeEkblad> ok
[10:29] <cables> ImLukeEkblad, run sudo apt-get update
[10:29] <cables> ImLukeEkblad, and tell me what happens
[10:30] <RoTerDrache> Why doesn't Ubuntu find external harddisk ?
[10:30] <gnomefreak> MegaNoobUbuntu: i just gave you command but you will have to update to dapper than edgy than feisty to get 7.04
[10:30] <cables> gnomefreak, I think he wants to just install from scratch
[10:30] <RoTerDrache> Why doesn't Ubuntu find external harddisk ?
[10:30] <gnomefreak> cables: he asked about update manager
[10:31] <cables> gnomefreak, I think his APT is broken, I told him to do sudo apt-get install gnomebaker but it doesn't seem to have worked. He said something about updates not working.
[10:31] <vox754> cables, this guys has been around for quite sometime, and the truth is not even he knows what he wants.
[10:31] <cables> vox754, well, I'll try to help him for a few more minutes, then I'll have to give up.
[10:31] <RoTerDrache> Why doesn't Ubuntu find external harddisk ?
[10:31] <gnomefreak> cables: he cant on breezy iirc
[10:31] <johnjjjj> Hello alll
[10:31] <johnjjjj> am new to this
[10:32] <johnjjjj> can anybody explain how to connect to UNDERNET ?
[10:32] <Limbeaux> is there an ubuntu app that will scan my network and give me a list of active tcp/ip addresses?
[10:32] <James> If I am running a ./configure --help is there a command I can type into shell to be able to scroll the various options in the document?
[10:32] <gnomefreak> !repeat | James
[10:32] <ubotu> James: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:32] <cables> gnomefreak, so the breezy repos have been entirely shut down? I thought they just weren't updated any more.
[10:32] <Marotte_> James: | less
[10:32] <cables> johnjjjj, type /server irc.undernet.org
[10:32] <gnomefreak> cables: thats what i heard this morning
[10:32] <stefg> Limbeaux: man netstat
[10:33] <Marotte_> ./configure --help | less
[10:33] <jurquijo> Limbeaux: look into nmap also
[10:33] <James> Thanks Marotte_ I appreciate it...I knew about less just wasn't sure how to attach to a ./configure command, thanks!
[10:33] <citronio> i am unable to mount my cd-dvd drive. I get "mount: special device /dev/hda does not exist" every time I try
[10:33] <Marotte_> does someone knows how to avoid printting of "join/unjoin" messages in gaim ? :)
[10:33] <[GABRI] > hi people anyone have jailkit?
[10:33] <Rakdos> i have a resolution question  when i "sudo nvidia-settings" and set the resolution and save to xconfig and restart and it doesnt save any way to fix this? PM with response
[10:34] <Limbeaux> ok,  i was hoping there was something like angryIP for linux
[10:34] <cables> Marotte_, I'm not sure, but try using Xchat. It's much better for IRC.
[10:34] <Marotte_> James you can attach (pipe) just about everything ;)
[10:34] <Limbeaux> i just give it a range and it resolves active adresses w/ hostnames
[10:34] <Marotte_> but sometime it's just useless :)
[10:34] <Limbeaux> in windows anyway
[10:35] <josh_____> Hi, does anybody know if (or when) security.ubuntu.com will be up again so that updates can be done?
[10:35] <GigaClon> !pm | Rakdos
[10:35] <ubotu> Rakdos: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[10:35] <Marotte_> cables: Yes I know for xchat2 ;)
[10:35] <jurquijo> Limbeaux: nmap has many gui front ends - nmapfe & knmap
[10:35] <cerda_> dam i dont get it, but the cd is all good cus i used it in another pc
[10:36] <Marotte_> but gaim (what's the new name already ?) is interesting so I test on my girlfriend's laptop :)
[10:36] <family> Marotte_: pidgin
[10:36] <family> Marotte_: http://www.pidgin.im/
[10:36] <Marotte_> Interesting for the multiprotocol
[10:36] <puff> Bah, humbug.  My wireless is flaking out again.  It seems to work, I get dhcpack, get an IP assigned, etc, but I can't ping the gateway, I get "Destination Host Unreachable"
[10:37] <Marotte_> thx family
[10:37] <johnjjjj> hello again
[10:37] <Spartanb292> cheers
[10:37] <Marotte_> puff, route issue ?
[10:37] <puff> Before, I got it working (I thought) when I tried the gnome network applet, but that may have just been an accident of timing, because now that's not helping.
[10:37] <puff> Help?
[10:37] <cerda_> uboto, i know the cd is good because i used it in another pc, but my pc just gets stuck, wat should i do
[10:37] <Spartanb292> could someone help me??
[10:37] <cerda_> '
[10:37] <mhz`-> cerda, just check it anyways
[10:38] <mhz`-> when you boot up, it'll give you the option to check the cd
[10:38] <cerda_> yea, but i dont get it at all
[10:38] <Spartanb292> ???
[10:38] <mhz`-> reburn another copy?
[10:38] <Marotte_> what's Spartanb292, no if you don't ask anything ...
[10:38] <cerda_> o, yea i do that too, but it gets stuck at one bar
[10:38] <stefg> !faq | cerda
[10:38] <ubotu> cerda: A list of common questions and answers about Ubuntu: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions - Official documentation: http://help.ubuntu.com - IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[10:38] <Marotte_> don't ask to ask...
[10:38] <Spartanb292> ok first of all I am from Germany so excuse my mistakes ;)
[10:39] <grim76> cerda_: did you try the alternate install cd?  Some machines have problems booting to the livecd
[10:39] <stefg> !de | Spartanb292
[10:39] <ubotu> Spartanb292: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:39] <jamman> hello all.
[10:39] <Marotte_> I can't understand why being a German can excuse mistakes :)
[10:39] <cerda_> grim, no i will try that, thx
[10:39] <Spartanb292> ok I have a problem with installing Ubuntu Version 7.04
[10:39] <IndyGunFreak> Marotte_: lol,
[10:39] <Spartanb292> :p
[10:39] <johnjjjj> Hello again
[10:39] <IndyGunFreak> Spartanb292: well, by all means, share your problem with us.
[10:40] <citronio> i am unable to mount my cd-dvd drive. I get "mount: special device /dev/hda does not exist" every time I try
[10:40] <johnjjjj> it does not seem to be able to connect to undernet...ANY IDEA ?
[10:40] <jamman> citronio, i doubt that your cd drive is hda.
[10:40] <matteo> hi
[10:40] <Marotte_> citronio: you dvd drive is not /dev/hda :)
[10:40] <jamman> citronio, post the output (if any) of sudo mount -a
[10:40] <matteo> who wants to try my nvidia packages? http://teknoraver.campuslife.it/software/nvidia/
[10:40] <cables> !offtopic | johnjjjj
[10:40] <ubotu> johnjjjj: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:40] <jamman> citronio, if nothing, pastebin /etc/fstab.
[10:40] <yeniklasor> With what can I open a chm file?
[10:40] <broedje> citronio: you tried mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom or else on the command line? because for example "hda" is merely the Hard disk thn the cdrom?
[10:40] <broedje> er cd9660
[10:41] <citronio> thanks guys, on the way...
[10:41] <broedje> i mean.... and /dev/cd0??? what was the cdrom device again? dmesg | grep ROM may find this out
[10:41] <broedje> er rom... uh no idea
[10:41] <Spartanb292> I boot from the disk I, choose Start ore install ubuntu than the window Loading Linux Kernell appears and than it just stops???
[10:41] <Lamego> yell8w, go to the package manager, and search for chm
[10:41] <Lamego> there are several options
[10:41] <johnjjjj> i did not know guys..just when i run the irc under ubuntu..connects me directly to this server
[10:41] <Spartanb292> what could be the problem???
[10:41] <Marotte_> Spartanb292: strange...
[10:41] <palune> hi
[10:41] <cerda_> so the alternative one is just the installation thing, meening i cant check it out first?
[10:41] <citronio> jamman, there's no output when mount -a--- :(
[10:41] <jamman> Spartanb292, possibly a bad burn or download.
[10:42] <IndyGunFreak> Spartanb292: have you tried starting with apci disabled?
[10:42] <IndyGunFreak> but i'd think a bad burn
[10:42] <yeniklasor> thanks
[10:42] <jamman> cerda_, that is right.
[10:42] <Marotte_> you should try booting another kernel I think it's possible with ubuntu
[10:42] <johnjjjj> Anyone tried mybooks financial software under ubuntu ?
[10:42] <Marotte_> acpi, yes good ideau
[10:42] <cerda_> alright, thx
[10:42] <Spartanb292> mmh ok but I tried it with several CD's and it's allway the same problem
[10:42] <jamman> citronio, can you pastebin /etc/fstab
[10:42] <etarip> Linux for ever
[10:43] <IndyGunFreak> Spartanb292: how fast do you burn the cds?.. burn them around 2-4x, don't burn them at full speed
[10:43] <puff> Can anybody help me troubleshoot a wireless problem?
[10:43] <Marotte_> Spartanb292: rather than just hit "enter" edit the line (boot: ) before..
[10:43] <jamman> Spartanb292, try adding the option at startup (additional options or something like that) "acpi=off"
[10:43] <jamman> puff, shoot away.
[10:43] <saxin> what is acpi?
[10:43] <Marotte_> a F? should give help as far as I remember
[10:43] <Spartanb292> mmh ok I burned it with 8x I'll try it with 2x
[10:43] <LukeEkbla2> Hi
[10:43] <jamman> !acpi | saxin
[10:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acpi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:44] <johnjjjj> bye all :)
[10:44] <puff> I get dhcpack, IP assigned and all, but when I ping the gateway, I get "Destination Host Unreachable".  The network's working fine (I'm typing this on an adjacent machine through the same network).
[10:44] <Marotte_> :)
[10:44] <jamman> saxin, acpi is a service that suspends and hibernates your laptop, tell temperature, etc.
[10:44] <Marotte_> What's the bots/humans quota here ? :)
[10:44] <jamman> puff, sure you have the wifi network set up right?
[10:45] <jamman> Marotte_, im a human.
[10:45] <family> I'm trying Linux Key Logger right now (lkl), but it's not making the file I tell it to make. I'm running it with "sudo lkl -l -k /usr/share/lkl/keymaps/us_km -o keylog.txt"
[10:45] <PetarM> is here anybody, who wants help me, to install beryl? i have a tutorial (optimized for my notebook type; dell dimension 1501) but there are some problems ... :(
[10:45] <Warbo> Hi, I'm making a package which adds lines to the sources.list file as a newbie-friendly way of adding a repository, but I can't think of a way to run apt-get update automatically, since only one apt system can be run at once. There is the postpone utility in Debian, but that isn't in any stable Ubuntus yet, and the point of this package is that installing one thing will configure it all for the user (so making them install ot
[10:45] <jamman> PetarM, put the problems plz.
[10:46] <saxin> jamman: I see.. thanks :)
[10:46] <puff> jamman: Obviously *something* isn't right :-(.
[10:46] <Warbo> PetarM: A Dell 1501? I have one of them, with an ATI graphics card. Can you get 3D working at all?
[10:46] <Takuya> Hey guys
[10:46] <stefg> !beryl | petarM
[10:46] <ubotu> petarM: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:46] <jamman> puff, double check passwords, etc.
[10:46] <Takuya> I just successfully installed Ubuntu onto my iMac G5..
[10:46] <magnetron> congratulations, Takuya
[10:46] <Takuya> however.... OS X boots from yaboot and complains of no root device
[10:46] <Takuya> D:
[10:47] <Takuya> so now I can't boot OS X. lol
[10:47] <jamman> puff, also duble check that you can ping local machines. thirdly, if you're using wpa, i recommend turning it off for the moment for testing purposes.
[10:47] <PetarM> ubotu: no body wants to help me! - stefg: it's not just for beryl. - warbon: i don't really know.
[10:47] <puff> jamman: I can't ping local machines either.
[10:47] <Gerrit> How do I tell firefox to treat a certain file as a text-file and open it in firefox?
[10:47] <Gerrit> If I say "open with... firefox", then the question what to open it with is repeated after downloading.
[10:47] <citronio> jamman, ok, did it: http://pastebin.com/d5192a27c
[10:48] <PetarM> jamman, do you have experience in ati cards? privat chat?
[10:48] <jamman> puff, well then. turn off wpa or wep protection for the moment.
[10:48] <puff> jamman: I'm not using wpa/wep.  I'm using ssh.
[10:48] <siloko> how do you disable the gnome splash screen in feisty?
[10:48] <jamman> PetarM, i have an ati card. private chat wont do you any good. im not very experianced with bery/compiz.
[10:49] <IPGHOST> hi
[10:49] <jamman> puff, ssh how? wireless, right?
[10:49] <puff> jamman: Yah.  I'm not using wpa/wep.  I'm relying on application level encryption.
[10:49] <jamman> citronio, try, "sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0"
[10:49] <jamman> puff, got it.
[10:50] <IPGHOST> i have 256MB RAM , my ubuntu 7.4 instaler hangs uo after a very slow slow start any idea to direct install ?
[10:50] <Marotte_> using openGL capabilities to display a windows/desktop environment just sounds silly to me...
[10:50] <jamman> puff, well, do, "ifconfig" and look for a wlan0 or an ra0 or something like that. the lo you can ignore.
[10:50] <stefg> PetarM: !alternat | IPGHOST
[10:50] <PetarM> okay. i'll put my problem here. look at the tutorial (http://ubuntu1501.blogspot.com/2007/01/beryl-with-xgl-on-ubuntu-610.html). after putting the command "sudo depmod -ae" the "sudo aticonfig --initial" comes. and after putting this command, an error comes and my xorg.conf file is empty.
[10:50] <stefg> !alternatw | IPGHOST
[10:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alternatw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:50] <citronio> jamman: mount: special device /dev/cdrom does not exist
[10:50] <stefg> !alternate | IPGHOST
[10:50] <ubotu> IPGHOST: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[10:50] <Chousuke> Marotte_: It's not at all silly. It saves CPU
[10:50] <jamman> puff, once you do that, you need to look for an ip addres there.
[10:51] <citronio> jamman, thanks a lot, btw
[10:51] <jamman> citronio, try the same but replace /dev/cdrom with /dev/cdrom0
[10:51] <Chousuke> Marotte_: In fact, using the GPU to draw windows/desktop is how things *should* be done :)
[10:51] <jamman> citronio, or is it a dvd/cd-rw?
[10:51] <Marotte_> Chousuke: you mean using openGL to display some simple 2D graphics save CPU ?
[10:51] <siloko> does anyone know how to remove the horrible brown splashscreen after login?
[10:52] <citronio> jamman, it is a dvd/cd, yes...
[10:52] <Chousuke> Marotte_: yes, because you don't have to render the desktop with the CPU
[10:52] <Warbo> Marotte_: Look at most technology in PCs today and it probably looks ridiculous to people from 10 years ago. Webpages with embedded videos made in Flash?!
[10:52] <Marotte_> yes ok, once more time when I would have stop hitting the keyboard ;)
[10:52] <stefg> PetarM: and still beryl support is in #ubuntu-effects, NOT HERE
[10:52] <puff> jamman: It's eth1.
[10:52] <Chousuke> Marotte_: modern computers have awesome 3d acceleration, and it sits mostly unused.
[10:52] <jamman> ok, well then in a terminal type, "ls -l /dev/*ro*"
[10:52] <uffe_> HI, I'm a newbee to ubuntu and linux world: I have a notebook ASUS A3H where everything works fine with Ubuntu 7.04 .. EXEPT sound in external speakers ... anyone have an idea ?
[10:52] <Chousuke> Marotte_: So 3d desktop is putting it to good use :)
[10:52] <jamman> puff, is there an ip address for it?
[10:53] <Chousuke> Marotte_: And you get eye-candy too
[10:53] <Marotte_> yes used only when needed :)
[10:53] <magnetron> !sound | uffe_
[10:53] <ubotu> uffe_: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:53] <Shadow_Warrior> Is there a posibility to boot other operating systems from within *buntu?
[10:53] <Shadow_Warrior> or linux? :)
[10:53] <citronio> jamman, crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 1, 5 2007-07-11 22:19 /dev/zero
[10:53] <Marotte_> That is the "eye-candy" part of the thing I found to be the silliest :)
[10:53] <jamman> Shadow_mil, try vmware.
[10:54] <jamman> citronio, ok, now "ls -l /dev/hd*"
[10:54] <Warbo> Shadow_Warrior: That's virtualisation. There are a few ways: KVM, VMWare, VirtualBox to name a few
[10:54] <unix4me> hi. is there some visualbasic-like program for linux?
[10:54] <jamman> Shadow_mil, qemu
[10:54] <puff> jamman: Yeah.
[10:54] <Warbo> unix4me: Take a look at Gambas
[10:54] <kbrooks> um
[10:54] <danfg> if i was installing eclipse by unpacking a .tar.gz file, where would i put it to be available to every user, /usr/local/eclipse? /usr/share/eclipse?
[10:54] <LukeEkbla2> I need help. this http://lukeekblad.googlepages.com/grrrr pops up whenever I open Add/Remove
[10:54] <magnetron> Marotte_: you could enable the system and turn off the eyecandy, gaining the speedup
[10:54] <Warbo> !info gambas
[10:54] <citronio> jamman, no such file... :(
[10:54] <ubotu> gambas: Visual development environment for the Gambas programming language. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.15-1.2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 954 kB, installed size 2228 kB
[10:54] <PetarM> damn stefg, dont bundle me away. in #ubuntu-effects nobody's activ (no body wants to help me) and it istnt only a beryl problem: i want the 3d support :(
[10:54] <Shadow_Warrior> Warbo: VmWare isn't only for virtual machines or something like that.
[10:54] <puff> jamman: Yes, there's an ip address for eth1.
[10:55] <jamman> puff, well try "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" just to double check.
[10:55] <Shadow_Warrior> jamman: if youre talking to me, thanks I'll try that
[10:55] <unix4me> LukeEkbla2: the first ubuntu virus!
[10:55] <puff> jamman: It's not responding to outside pings, either.
[10:55] <magnetron> LukeEkbla2: did you edit your sources.list?
[10:55] <puff> jamman: Doh.. I really hsould have thought of trying /etc/init.d.
[10:55] <jamman> puff, also are you using a static ip?
[10:55] <unix4me> Lukeekbla2: i'm kidding
[10:55] <puff> No, dhcp.
[10:55] <Marotte_> danfg: this is not the pb..
[10:55] <Gerrit> I am trying to view a file from textfiles.com. Firefox reads the content-type, and does not recognise 'image/x-jg'. Hence, it asks for an application to use. When I select 'firefox', it downloads the file, opens a new tab, and asks what application to use. That process is repeated in a loop. How do I tell firefox to view this file raw?
[10:55] <jamman> puff, its a handy little tool.
[10:55] <unix4me> hi. is there some visualbasic-like program for linux?
[10:55] <LukeEkbla2> magnetron:   i think
[10:55] <Marotte_> it is related to user's right..
[10:55] <danfg> Marotte_: good to know, what is a pb?
[10:55] <Warbo> unix4me: I said, install Gmabas
[10:55] <stefg> !patience | PetarM
[10:55] <Warbo> *Gambas
[10:55] <ubotu> PetarM: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:56] <magnetron> !info gambas | unix4me
[10:56] <ubotu> unix4me: gambas: Visual development environment for the Gambas programming language. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.15-1.2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 954 kB, installed size 2228 kB
[10:56] <jamman> citronio, ok. so now "ls -l /dev" and pastebin that plz.
[10:56] <unix4me> Warbo: thanks
[10:56] <Warbo> unix4me: Gambas isn't compatible with VB, but it works in a very similar way
[10:56] <Shadow_Warrior> Thanks Warbo  :) Thanks jamman
[10:56] <Marotte_> danfg: /usr/share is not a place where software accessible for all users are stored...
[10:56] <jamman> Shadow_Warrior, no prob.
[10:56] <jamman> glad to help when possible.
[10:56] <Shadow_Warrior> :D
[10:56] <captbaritone> Can anyone lead me to a resource where I can learn about how ubuntu handels extended characters (letters with accents) in filenames?
[10:56] <Marotte_> this is the place where files shared by some software will go
[10:57] <jamman> WOW! just noticed something amazing about ls and /dev/
[10:57] <jamman> it will tell you what the devices are!
[10:57] <jamman> disk, disk, cdrom, usb, etc.
[10:57] <jamman> cool!
[10:57] <Ltar> does anybody know of a good citation/bibliography program, such as EndNote for Windows?
[10:57] <danfg> Marotte_: interesting, i'm actually looking into man hier right now. where do you suggest i unpack eclipse?
[10:58] <raffytaffy> can someone recommend a sound card under 100 dollars which works with *buntu out of the box, as i rescently bought a creative sound blaster audiogy se 7.1 and it does not work
[10:58] <pheanix> dose any one know of a Mime unpacker?
[10:58] <magnetron> !easysource > LukeEkbla2
[10:58] <unix4me> is there such thing as free software you have to pay for?
[10:58] <IndyGunFreak> unix4me: i imagine there is.
[10:58] <jamman> unix4me, free as in beer or free as in speech?
[10:58] <lns> ahh.. topic answered my question. =)
[10:58] <IndyGunFreak> unix4me: free as in speech, doesn't mean free as in beer
[10:59] <Shadow_mil> you know
[10:59] <unix4me> IndyGunfreak: ok. i understand.
[10:59] <Shadow_mil> I use to go by the name shadow warrior
[10:59] <citronio> jamman, done: http://pastebin.com/d5b8f52a4
[10:59] <citronio> (man, thanks a lot for your time!)
[10:59] <CarmenSandiego> I've created an empty file - /media/pendrive - onto which my pendrive is mounted. Can I store a file in there, in that place on the filesystem (without the pendrive in), and still safely mount my pendrive to that location? Preferably, with the pendrive mounted there when I opened the place in Nautilus I'd see both the files stored there and those on my pendrive.
[10:59] <jamman> Shadow_mil stares at Shadow_Warrior, what the H does that mean?
[10:59] <uffe_> magnetron: Changing to "Intel HDA (ALSA-mixer) did not do the trick :-( ... unless I need a restart ? ... but that just Microsoft .. ?
[10:59] <jabon> #ubuntu-es
[10:59] <Marotte_> danfg: if you install "from source" from a source that is external to your distribution (you're not just installing a package with synaptic...) it usally goes to /usr/local
[10:59] <EchoBinary> where in the world?
[11:00] <fsckr> hey guys how are you doing
[11:00] <magnetron> uffe_: i don't know, ask the channel please. gtg
[11:00] <dxdt> q
[11:00] <dxdt> whoops
[11:00] <Marotte_> you have a .tar.gz with the source of your program, you unpack it in /usr/local/src
[11:00] <magnetron> !support
[11:00] <ubotu> the official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org
[11:00] <danfg> Marotte_: i tried with synaptic, but it installs eclipse with an older version of java than the one i have, which is wierd
[11:00] <Shadow_Warrior> Shadow_mil: :) I liked the game :D
[11:00] <danfg> Marotte_: i'll go with /usr/local then, thanks a lot :)
[11:00] <fsckr> is it possible to create a script to disable twinview when a game is executed?
[11:00] <Shadow_mil> what game?
[11:00] <Marotte_> when you install and compile, binary will go to /usr/local/bin   /usr/local/lib    etc
[11:00] <LukeEkblad> yuo still there man?
[11:00] <Shadow_Warrior> I'd still play it if I had the oportunity :)
[11:01] <jamman> citronio, is it a sata drive?
[11:01] <Shadow_Warrior> Shadow_mil: Shadow Warrior :)
[11:01] <Desolator> hello
[11:01] <Justi2> How do I enable both the Wired connection and wireless connection at the same time?
[11:01] <Shadow_Warrior> Le,,e get a link
[11:01] <Shadow_Warrior> (Lemme)
[11:01] <jabon> un  canal en espaol
[11:01] <Nitrogen> I liek to wank
[11:01] <Desolator> I have a few questions before installing ubuntu, can anyone help?
[11:01] <Shadow_mil> that's quite alright
[11:01] <Marotte_> it won't be mixed with programs from the distro whiche are in /usr/bin  /usr/share...
[11:01] <stefg> !es | jabon
[11:01] <ubotu> jabon: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:01] <Anlar> Justi2: they are, but one if preferred.. for which you have to setup "trunking" if you want to balance traffic between them
[11:02] <Shadow_mil> Nitrogen, please don't do that
[11:02] <Nitrogen> oops wrong button
[11:02] <Nitrogen> sorry
[11:02] <SkorpKing> haha
[11:02] <citronio> jamman: i am not sure... i can't seem to find the hardware anywhere, nor in hp website nor using the hardware info tools I downloaded... any suggestion?
[11:02] <Shadow_Warrior> http://www.3drealms.com/sw/
[11:02] <danfg> !br | danfg
[11:02] <Warbo> Desolator: Ask away, we'll see
[11:02] <ubuntu___> hi, what distro does debian uses on its mirrors? it says (unix)
[11:02] <jamman> citronio, open up the case and double check its plugged in.
[11:02] <Justi2> Anlar: so even if the radio button is selected on one of them, if the traffic level increases it will use both connections?
[11:03] <stefg> !pt | danfg
[11:03] <ubotu> danfg: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[11:03] <Shadow_Warrior> So how did you think of the nick Shadow Warrior if not from the game Shadow_mil :)
[11:03] <danfg> :)
[11:03] <fsckr> Shadow_mil: the game im playing is quake 3
[11:03] <citronio> jamman, it is plugged it. it is the drive I used to install ubuntu... and if I restart the computer with the ubuntu installation dvd it reads it no prob...
[11:03] <Shadow_mil> I got the name from a Yu-Gi-Oh card
[11:04] <fsckr> it seems quite a few people have the same problem as i
[11:04] <Shadow_mil> it was my favorite card
[11:04] <jamman> citronio, ok. well...
[11:04] <matteo> ctcp rape?
[11:04] <Shadow_Warrior> Oooo :) OK :)
[11:04] <jamman> citronio, one moment well i check out google.
[11:04] <citronio> jamman,  cheers man...
[11:04] <gumpish> How do I disable the graphical OS loading/shuttingdown screens?
[11:04] <Shadow_mil> that was a long time ago though
[11:04] <Shadow_mil> like 5 years lol
[11:05] <Marotte_> gumpish: why would you do that ?
[11:05] <jamman> ok, citronio, do dmesg |more and look for a cdrom or dvd rom drive there.
[11:05] <citronio> jamman, do you think it may be a faulty installation?
[11:05] <jrib> gumpish: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and remove the "quiet" and "splash"
[11:05] <gumpish> SO I can see the system messages as they fly by
[11:05] <shwouchk> NigelS: if you care to know, I skipped the ndiswrapper way - the guide I first read about bcm43xx said nothing regarding fwcutter - now wpa2 works flawlessly with the native driver
[11:05] <captbaritone> Sorry to ask again, but I got no response. Can anyone help me with accented characters in filenames under Ubuntu?
[11:05] <danfg> i don't like the fact that variants of ubuntu distributions are called *buntu, they should stick with ubuntu and add a word to it, like ubuntu KDE, ubuntu X, ubuntu GNU, etc. helps keep the ubuntu brand recognizable
[11:05] <Warbo> gumpish: Edit the file /boot/grub/menu.lst as a superuser (like "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst") then delete any reference to "splash" on lines starting with "kernel"
[11:06] <danfg> now there's Gobuntu, *sigh*
[11:06] <jamman> citronio, mine is quite a ways down. press space to scroll and q to quit.
[11:06] <Justi2> !trunking
[11:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trunking - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:06] <EADG_> gumpish: replace "quit" with "verbose", you'lle see tons o'text fly by.
[11:06] <Marotte_> gumpish: hit Ctrl+F2 or F? while booting ?
[11:06] <Marotte_> ctrl+fN switch between virtual console
[11:06] <Warbo> gumpish: By default quiet and splash are on. That gives a graphical screen with no messages. Turning off quiet
[11:07] <Desolator> can anyone tell me what to pick between ext3 and xfs, provided that I have a windows installation on ntfs and want to read & write to it (I'm using 6.06)
[11:07] <Marotte_> you can see the messages on one of these vconsole
[11:07] <Warbo> gumpish: will bring up messages on the graphics. Disabling splash will turn off graphics
[11:07] <bruenig> Desolator, ext3
[11:07] <jrib> !ext3 > Desolator
[11:07] <Desolator> thanks
[11:07] <jrib> Desolator: ext3 and see ubotu's message for info on getting a driver for windows so you can read and write to it
[11:07] <gumpish> ok, thanks
[11:07] <tschaka> lowbee merc avi
[11:07] <Spartanb292> ok I've burned it with 2x speed..I'm going to try it with this cd ;)
[11:08] <Marotte_> Warbo: where do you putting it to "off" ?
[11:08] <Desolator> is there any way of making ubuntu able to write to ntfs?
[11:08] <Justi2> How do I enable both the Wired connection and wireless connection at the same time?
[11:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Desolator: yes ntfs-3g
[11:08] <Warbo> Marotte_: "off" meaning delete it from the line
[11:08] <Marotte_> Desolator: yes but don't ask me how
[11:08] <Marotte_> :)
[11:08] <Marotte_> menu.lst ?
[11:08] <Warbo> Marotte_: Yeah
[11:08] <Desolator> well I heard there's a beta driver included but I'd like not to touch beta drivers
[11:08] <Marotte_> you should be more precise no ?
[11:08] <Marotte_> ;)
[11:09] <Jack_Sparrow> !ntfs-3g
[11:09] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[11:09] <Desolator> and I can't wait 'till my Ubuntu 7 CD arrives
[11:09] <Shadow_Warrior> :) Shadow_mil, if I'm not being impertinent could I ask for your age?
[11:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Desolator: Wait for that..
[11:09] <Shadow_mil> 18
[11:09] <Warbo> Marotte_: Well this laptop keyboard is makin me type slow and imprecisely, and I like to get out answers before anyone else, so "off" is quicker :P
[11:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Desolator: One click ntfs write
[11:09] <noob> irc.fullnetwork.org
[11:09] <Shadow_Warrior> OK :) Thank you :)
[11:09] <Justi2> How do I enable both the Wired connection and wireless connection at the same time?
[11:09] <Desolator> Jack_Sparrow: thank you
[11:09] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[11:10] <jamman>  puff, get it workin?
[11:10] <Shadow_Warrior> jamman: Can you tell me how do I run the /dev/sda1 boot with qemu?
[11:10] <Desolator> good bye guys, thanks for help
[11:10] <raa> Hi anybody! Do somebody knows something about ssh2?
[11:10] <jamman> well, im not sure Shadow_Warrior. just one second.
[11:10] <Warbo> Shadow_Warrior: "qemu -hda /dev/sda"
[11:10] <Shadow_Warrior> It says something about needing a hard disk image :)
[11:10] <Shadow_Warrior> aa...
[11:10] <Shadow_Warrior> OK ...
[11:11] <Shadow_Warrior> lemme see :)
[11:11] <LukeEkblad> I have a problem, when i open add/remove. i get thishttp://lukeekblad.googlepages.com/grrrr message and then i have to exit
[11:11] <Lamego> raa, like, it is the most commonly used protocol to access to unix/linux systems :) ?
[11:11] <citronio> [    3.202000]  uhci_hcd 0000:00:1a.1: UHCI Host Controller
[11:11] <citronio> [    3.202000]  uhci_hcd 0000:00:1a.1: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2
[11:11] <citronio> [    3.202000]  uhci_hcd 0000:00:1a.1: irq 20, io base 0x00001860
[11:11] <Warbo> Shadow_Warrior: Be careful not to run the same filesystem twice (like running Ubuntu inside Ubuntu) since everything goes weird and read-only :P
[11:11] <citronio> jamman, that's the only cd i find... :(
[11:11] <jamman> Warbo, try "qemu -hda /dev/sda1"
[11:11] <jamman> citronio, which one. i didnt catch that post.
[11:12] <Warbo> jamman: sda1 is a partition not a drive though, so there will be no bootloader, etc.
[11:12] <citronio> jamman sorry...
[11:12] <citronio> [    3.202000]  uhci_hcd 0000:00:1a.1: UHCI Host Controller
[11:12] <citronio> [    3.202000]  uhci_hcd 0000:00:1a.1: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2
[11:12] <citronio> [    3.202000]  uhci_hcd 0000:00:1a.1: irq 20, io base 0x00001860
[11:12] <Shadow_Warrior> qemu: could not open hard disk image '/dev/sda' Warbo
[11:12] <raa> Lamego: But i have openssh only. It seems it is not ssh2
[11:12] <jamman> Warbo, good point.
[11:12] <Shadow_Warrior> jamman: Oh... :| so sda1
[11:12] <raa> Lamego: Where do I get ssh2?
[11:12] <Lamego> raa, openssh supports both ssh1 and ssh2
[11:12] <pablo_> hi, when i enter distrowatch, firefox closes, somebody knows why this may happen?
[11:12] <Lamego> the default is ssh2
[11:12] <Lamego> so you do have ssh2
[11:12] <Lamego> the client at least
[11:12] <Lamego> are you looking for the ssh2 server ?
[11:12] <Warbo> Shadow_Warrior: Try running it with sudo, "sudo qemu -hda /dev/sda" since maybe you aren't allowed to as a normal user
[11:12] <Shadow_Warrior> same thingy can't find sda1 :| And I'm sure it's normal
[11:13] <Shadow_Warrior> x_X How did I let that slip? :|
[11:13] <family> I'm trying to use lkl, but it doesn't create any files.. any ideas?
[11:13] <jamman> citronio, well, try "dmesg | grep cd"
[11:13] <NigelS> shwouchk: cool :) - consider updating the driver wiki since it pretty much says the opposite atm
[11:13] <puff> jamman: No, still no joy.  /etc/init.d didn't help.
[11:13] <jamman> i take that back citronio,
[11:13] <pablo_> hi, when i enter distrowatch, firefox closes, somebody knows why this may happen?
[11:13] <stp2007> Hi, how can I automatically answer yes when deleting a directory with a large number of files?
[11:14] <shwouchk> NigelS: I will
[11:14] <Warbo> pablo_: Mozilla censorship
[11:14] <Warbo> (only kidding :P )
[11:14] <Lamego> pablo_, crashing ?
[11:14] <shwouchk> NigelS: anyway, thanks and bye!
[11:14] <raa> Lamego: ok, thank you very much
[11:14] <pablo_> Lamego: yes
[11:14] <NigelS> shwouchk: bye bye
[11:14] <Lamego> have you installed some addon recently ?
[11:14] <Shadow_Warrior> WOw... you were right about going crazy... I barely had time to kill qemu before it was loading linux again
[11:14] <jrib> stp2007: probably easier to just use rm -rf   but you might be interested in the "yes" command
[11:14] <EADG_> stp2007: sudo rm -r dirname
[11:14] <citronio> jamman, http://pastebin.com/d2cc2366c
[11:15] <pablo_> Lamego: nope
[11:15] <NigelS> stp2007: rm -r though also there is an app called yes :) which you can pipe ;)
[11:15] <Tlink> stp2007: sudo rm -rf dirname
[11:15] <Shadow_Warrior> Would there be a issue if I were to start qemu from a screen Warbo ?
[11:15] <Warbo> Shadow_Warrior: As far as I can tell from messing around doing that, it doesn't do any damage because everyhting panics and goes read-only, but it means I need to reboot
[11:15] <pheanix> Ltar:  yWriter   you have to use wine...
[11:15] <citronio> jamman, you were asking about the cd being sata, my hard drive is, don't know if it helps...
[11:15] <NigelS> stp2007: -rf*
[11:15] <stp2007> jrib, thanks that worked
[11:15] <pheanix> good night.
[11:15] <Warbo> Shadow_Warrior: You mean the command screen? I dunno, never used it
[11:15] <Shadow_Warrior> Ah, I see...
[11:15] <Shadow_Warrior> yeah
[11:15] <stp2007> I am interested in the 'yes' command
[11:16] <dxdt> :wq
[11:16] <jamman> citronio, well, i dont know of many sata cdroms, so i doubt it is.
[11:16] <Spartanb292> It doesnt works :( :(
[11:16] <Shadow_Warrior> I might have to assign a new tty no? Warbo
[11:16] <stp2007> do I just piple yes into the rm -r dir ?
[11:16] <NigelS> stp2007: I would just use f :) but yes spits out lots of "y"s
[11:16] <citronio> jamman, sorry but i am not sure about what you mean with "i take that back" (i am from barcelona, you know? i learnt my english from a book...)
[11:16] <Warbo> Shadow_Warrior: Are you wanting to run it without graphics, ie. run a server in there or something?
[11:17] <jamman> citronio, dont do that.
[11:17] <Shadow_Warrior> can two X'es run on the same linux
[11:17] <Shadow_Warrior> With graphics :)
[11:17] <Warbo> Shadow_Warrior: Easily
[11:17] <jamman> citronio, thats what "i take that back" basically i take the sentence back.
[11:17] <Shadow_Warrior> -- :1 ?
[11:17] <Warbo> Shadow_Warrior: Yup
[11:17] <stp2007> NigelS,  thx, I'm just remembering WAY back that there was some way to pipe 'y's' into commands guess thats it.
[11:17] <Shadow_Warrior> Thanks :)
[11:17] <citronio> jamman.. ok. what shouldn't i do? sorry, a bit lost here now..
[11:18] <Warbo> Shadow_Warrior: you'll need to export DISPLAY=localhost:1 to some stuff though
[11:18] <jamman> citronio, basically dont do the grep thingy.
[11:18] <jamman> citronio, you already did tho, wont hurt anything, so itll all be alright.
[11:18] <Shadow_Warrior> fHmm Warbo I think I'll kill the current X and not make a big fuss :))
[11:18] <captbaritone> Anyone want a Pownce invite?
[11:18] <captbaritone> oh
[11:18] <captbaritone> offtopic, sorry
[11:19] <citronio> jamman, ah! ok, got it now...
[11:19] <jamman> citronio, try "dmesg | grep hd*"
[11:19] <jamman> citronio, and browse through that for a cd drive.
[11:20] <jamman> citronio, towards the top.
[11:20] <citronio> jamman found 2 sda and 2 sdb...
[11:20] <Drk_Gu1> Hy guys
[11:20] <bgarrant> Hi all
[11:20] <PirateLeChuck> puff, well that certainly enabled me to connect but it did not start automatically, maybe because i installed it as root via apt-get
[11:20] <Shadow_Warrior> Warbo: it is running but it says something about qemu acceleration not being in there? there are special packages here?
[11:20] <Drk_Gu1> I am (no that) proud to anounce i moved on from Ubuntu
[11:20] <jamman> citronio, do you have two hard drives?
[11:21] <hot_boy> voc appppppppp
[11:21] <bgarrant> anyone have good experience using dreamweaver 8 on ubuntu?
[11:21] <jamman> Drk_Gu1, cool.
[11:21] <Drk_Gu1> I moved on to PuppyLinux
[11:21] <citronio> nope... i have 1 hard drive partitioned in two... does it make any sense?
[11:21] <raa> Lamego: do you know something about ssh-keygen2 ? And also my hosting provider tells me to use ~/.ssh2 directory both on client and server for configuration
[11:21] <Warbo> Shadow_Warrior: There is, called kqemu, which makes it faster. It is complicated to run, and I haven't done it recently since they changed it round
[11:21] <Drk_Gu1> 7 times lighter than Ubuntu
[11:21] <citronio> jamman nope... i have 1 hard drive partitioned in two... does it make any s
[11:21] <Warbo> Shadow_Warrior: I need to get my laptop charger, the light is blinking at me. Back in a sec
[11:22] <Lamego> raa, just ignore the "2" on those instructions
[11:22] <jamman> citronio, ok, well then your drive may be sata.
[11:22] <Lamego> you have ssh-keygen and "~./ssh"
[11:22] <jamman> citronio, do you have a cd in there first?
[11:22] <citronio> jamman does a dvd do the trick?
[11:22] <jamman> citronio, should.
[11:22] <ubuntu> hi, i am using livecd, can i take out the cd to burn an iso image?
[11:22] <unix4me> how do I convert data types in gambas?
[11:22] <jamman> ubuntu, nope.
[11:23] <bgarrant> anyone know if dreamweaver and photoshop be made to work on ubuntu?
[11:23] <citronio> jamman ok, i just inserted the installation dvd
[11:23] <Lamego> unix4me, try #gambas :)
[11:23] <unix4me> !Wine | bgarrant
[11:23] <ubotu> bgarrant: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:23] <ubuntu> jamman: damm
[11:23] <jamman> bgarrant, try the appdb.winehq.com
[11:23] <raa> Lamego: ok, I'll try. Thank you very much again
[11:23] <unix4me> Lamego: they're extremely quiet over there.
[11:23] <bgarrant> thanks for win
[11:23] <amidaniel> hah .. cool bot :)
[11:23] <bgarrant> wine
[11:23] <Lamego> unix4me, this is not a gambas devs channel ;)
[11:23] <bgarrant> is crossoveroffice better than wine?
[11:23] <jamman> citronio, ok, now try to mount it with "mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0
[11:23] <jamman> "
[11:23] <unix4me> bgarrant:yeah, but it costs money
[11:24] <bgarrant> I could use trial I guess
[11:24] <Slike> i'm having some volume keys on my dell inspiron laptop. until the moment i connected my microphone, these were bound to the master output channel, now they're bound to the microphone channel. how do i change this again?
[11:24] <bgarrant> unix...you used both before?
[11:24] <Lamego> openoffice is a better option :P
[11:24] <amidaniel> bgarrant: Why not give the gimp a try? It has pretty much all the functionality of photoshop and works on unix
[11:24] <Shadow_Warrior> That was totally not expected
[11:24] <citronio> jamman, mount: special device /dev/cdrom does not exist
[11:24] <ripper> anybody know how i can display the current song w/ xsys on xchat & xmms
[11:24] <unix4me> bgarrant: yes, and I have to say that crossover is much better ;)
[11:24] <jamman> citronio, ok, now try to mount it with a different dev "mount /dev/sdb /media/cdrom0
[11:24] <ripper> because the /playing command dont work :|
[11:25] <bgarrant> what about a good dreamweave ralternative for non coders
[11:25] <ibt> what's the recommended way to set up a firewall in ubuntu?
[11:25] <jamman> ibt, try firestarter.
[11:25] <Warbo> bgarrant: Nvu
[11:25] <amidaniel> bgarrant: That I'm not sure about
[11:25] <LeChacal> hey i have a question what is the best burning software for Linux that can burn and save .iso?
[11:25] <NigelS> ibt: either read about iptables or use a graphical tool like firestarter
[11:25] <amidaniel> I'm sure there's something though
[11:25] <ubuntu> how do i burn a cd from command line?
[11:25] <Jack_Sparrow> ibt: firewall/iptables are inplace as default
[11:25] <bgarrant> Nvu doe snot do ASP, PHP and CFM I thought
[11:25] <jamman> LeChacal, k3b
[11:25] <unix4me> LeChacal: ubuntu.
[11:25] <ibt> firestarter was too simple for my needs
[11:25] <amidaniel> LeChacal: k3b seems decent
[11:25] <NigelS> LeChacal: k3b has most votes on that front
[11:25] <unix4me> LeChacal: you can burn iso's by right-clicking and selecting "burn to disc"
[11:25] <Warbo> bgarrant: My websites all use tables and I upload the files manually :P
[11:25] <LeChacal> thanks
[11:25] <Jack_Sparrow> ibt: You can install a firewall/iptable manager like guarddog or firestarter
[11:26] <bgarrant> thx warbo
[11:26] <citronio> jamman mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[11:26] <jamman> citronio, k, i must go. i should be back in 15-20 minutes.
[11:26] <IndyGunFreak> unix4me: that never works for me for some reason, so i've just gotten in the habit of using Gnomebaker
[11:26] <citronio> jamman, you're a star
[11:26] <citronio> jamman thanks a lot
[11:26] <bgarrant> this channel rocks!  I am new to linux and ubuntu.  First day leaving windows. :)
[11:26] <unix4me> bgarrant: congrats :D
[11:26] <bgarrant> i only have 2 programs I need in windows and trying to make work in Ubuntu
[11:27] <bgarrant> QUickbooks and Dreamweaver
[11:27] <Jack_Sparrow> bgarrant: what are they
[11:27] <bgarrant> Quickbooks 2006 Pro
[11:27] <unix4me> bgarrant: you can partition your drive with one partition in windows.
[11:27] <bgarrant> anyoen know how to get QB 2006 working?
[11:27] <Jack_Sparrow> bgarrant: I have quicken working well
[11:27] <unix4me> bgarrant: win programs work better in win than linux
[11:27] <bgarrant> quicken may work I guess
[11:27] <bgarrant> yeah
[11:27] <ibt> Jack_Sparrow: what do you mean they are in place by default? it doesn't seem that way to me
[11:27] <unix4me> bgarrant: but i'm not sure dreamweaver would work so well... :S
[11:27] <bgarrant> I just have 10 years of data in QB already
[11:28] <Jack_Sparrow> bgarrant: QB will probably need some IE pieces (not IE installed
[11:28] <unix4me> bgarrant: the problem w/ wine is that it sometimes takes sound away
[11:28] <Jack_Sparrow> ibt: default install is locked down
[11:28] <unix4me> bgarrant: i would reccommend keeping a windows partition
[11:28] <bgarrant> what is best accounting package for small busines son linux?
[11:28] <Jack_Sparrow> ibt: go to grc.com and test your ports
[11:28] <ilu> Hello Ubuntu folk, Question. How do i install java? i have tried going to synaptic and add some packages and that did not work and i have downloaded a *.bin file from javas website but that does not seem to work to install.... so any tips?
[11:28] <ltibor65> Hi! How can I set different background pictures for 4 desktops?
[11:28] <bgarrant> unix. i can do that
[11:29] <ibt> Jack_Sparrow: iptables wasn't even installed by default and of course i know whether my ports are exposed or not
[11:29] <Warbo> ilu: install sun-java6-bin package
[11:29] <Jack_Sparrow> bgarrant: many do dual boot and works fine
[11:29] <Harbl> Can I safely mount a partition, or a memory stick (or anything mountable) to a directory that's already got files in it?
[11:29] <puppe> ilu: try automatix
[11:29] <Warbo> ilu: Use the command "sudo aptitude install sun-java6-bin"
[11:29] <Jack_Sparrow> puppe: NO automatix
[11:29] <FunnyLookinHat> Harbl, no, best to use an empty directory
[11:29] <horseplops> ahoy, matey! m'thinks it's time to shove off!
[11:29] <bgarrant> what is advantage of dual boot if you want to drop windows ;)
[11:29] <FunnyLookinHat> DON'T USE AUTOMATIX!   LoL
[11:29] <amidaniel> Alright, I'm seriously considering a switch on my laptops from SuSE to Ubuntu but was wondering if someone could answer a couple of questions for me. One: Has anyone had success (preferably on a VAIO FE-series) with the sonypi driver? I've been unable to get this to work under SuSE, and it's a pain in the ass. 2) How is Ubuntu's ntfs support? I really need to be able to write to ntfs partitions and have been unsuccessful with SuSE's ntfs tools (th
[11:29] <jamman> nvm citronio. i am back now.
[11:29] <Jack_Sparrow> ibt: How did you install that iptables were not in place.
[11:30] <Vulk> Good afternoon
[11:30] <unix4me> !language | amidaniel
[11:30] <ubotu> amidaniel: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:30] <citronio> jamman cool
[11:30] <puppe> jack_sparrow: ok, sorry then
[11:30] <ibt> Jack_Sparrow: do me a favor and stop trying to help me
[11:30] <FunnyLookinHat> amidaniel, for starters...   NTFS support is very easy to enale and works great with the ntfs-3g package
[11:30] <amidaniel> unix4me: Oh, sorry :)
[11:30] <jamman> anywho, try "mount /dev/sdb -t iso9660 /media/cdrom
[11:30] <jamman> "
[11:30] <unix4me> amidaniel: it's ok.
[11:30] <Jack_Sparrow> ibt.. sure thing.. but they are in place with the default install
[11:30] <FunnyLookinHat> amidaniel, secondly, i would suggest searching ubuntuforums.org for that sonypi driver to see what other experiences have been with it   : )
[11:31] <vox754> amidaniel, you can browse ubuntuforums.org for your hardware and read what other users think about it.
[11:31] <unix4me> amidaniel: it's just that (quoting the #fedora channel) "some kid may be at the computer with their grandma watching over them" ;)
[11:31] <amidaniel> FunnyLookinHat: Okay :) I've grepped through the forums a bit and have seen mixed stories
[11:31] <unix4me> how do I convert data types in gambas?
[11:31] <Vulk> Anybody knows how to works with MSSQL Server in linux?
[11:31] <jamman> unix4me, try the export functions.
[11:31] <Harbl> FunnyLookinHat: That's a pain because I want to use Truecrypt to encrypt my /home folder. In order to have it automatically mount (& therefore decrypt) at startup, I need to use an edited .profile file - which is stored in /home!
[11:31] <jamman> Vulk, try phpmyadmin. very easy.
[11:31] <amidaniel> Generally, though, laptop (sony in particular) support better/worse in ubuntu?
[11:31] <unix4me> jamman: how do I do that?
[11:32] <ibt> Jack_Sparrow: i don't see any init.d scripts that load firewall stuff
[11:32] <daan> i want to enable compiz in ubuntu but it's giving me some problems. everything works great in mandriva one btw. in ubuntu i get black boxes all over the place like firefox and the applications menu. can anyone help me?
[11:32] <ilu> warbo thank you sir , your solution worked very fine... :)
[11:32] <unix4me> info sony | amidaniel
[11:32] <jamman> unix4me, try file -> export?
[11:32] <Vulk> phpmyadmin? for administer MSSQL?
[11:32] <sam123> how do i setup teamspeak to use alsa or enable my microphone for oss?
[11:32] <jamman> unix4me, im not 100% sure, just guessing.
[11:32] <unix4me> jamman: no... i mean, like from string to integer
[11:32] <Jack_Sparrow> ibt.. You dont want my help... dont ask question..
[11:32] <Warbo> ilu: No prob (although I hate using Java for my course :P )
[11:32] <Drk_Guy> Hy guys
[11:32] <PG> i installed the compiz fusion and all is very fine no problems
[11:32] <unix4me> jamman: but thanks for trying :)
[11:32] <FunnyLookinHat> Harbl, then just move the .profile file to /home/ instead of /home/user   it's not the greatest practice but it works
[11:32] <jamman> oh, no idea.
[11:32] <citronio> jamman I get the help from mount 8)
[11:32] <Drk_Guy> I need help with X
[11:32] <amidaniel> unix4me: Hmm .. no info? :)
[11:32] <Drk_Guy> X is beign so rebel
[11:32] <jamman> citronio, ok.
[11:32] <ilu> warbo yeah i dont like java either its just that i use hushmail and that system use java
[11:32] <horseplops> Jack_Sparrow: looked like more of a statement than a question.
[11:32] <amidaniel> mwuhahaha .. the bot doesn't know everything :)
[11:32] <unix4me> amidaniel : guess not ;)
[11:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !Iptables
[11:32] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[11:32] <FunnyLookinHat> amidaniel, hmmm...  well I'd really suggest trying Ubuntu.  I gave suse a good hard look and ended up going with Ubuntu for both the community and hardware support in the end   : )
[11:33] <unix4me> !sony
[11:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sony - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:33] <Harbl> FunnyLookinHat: will the .profile folder still be effective if I change its location?
[11:33] <unix4me> info sony
[11:33] <sam123> !teamspeak
[11:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about teamspeak - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:33] <unix4me> ubotu doesn't know anything about sony :(
[11:33] <ibt> Jack_Sparrow: you're so helpful
[11:33] <PG> but who can tell me what this plugin is (expo)
[11:33] <FunnyLookinHat> Harbl, so long as you make sure that it's loading it from where you place it in your system, yes.
[11:33] <jamman> citronio, ok, now try to mount it with a different dev "sudo mount /dev/sdb -t iso9660 /media/cdrom0"
[11:33] <amidaniel> FunnyLookinHat: Alright, well, I think I may give it a try. I'm gonna first stick it on an old desktop of mine and see how it runs there. If I like it, I'll prolly make the switch.
[11:33] <jamman> forgot the sudo
[11:33] <Shadow_Warrior> Lol Warbo it works but all the keys are about 16 values up I mean q is somewhere on p and w on [
[11:33] <FunnyLookinHat> Harbl, for some reason though it seems to me that you're over complicating this...  encrypting a home drive isn't hard to do at all
[11:33] <FunnyLookinHat> amidaniel, awesome!  good luck!  : )
[11:34] <unix4me> how do I convert data types in gambas (string > integer)?
[11:34] <blue42> exit
[11:34] <jamman> Harbl, you should be able to do this in the alternitive installer very easily.
[11:34] <amidaniel> In the past, I've generally stuck to debian for desktops, suse for laptops, and fedora for servers -- but it can't hurt to give these ubuntu stuff a try for once :)
[11:34] <libervisco> Why isn't a device node created for my USB ir dongle?
[11:34] <Warbo> Shadow_Warrior: Hmm, I thought it handled keymap detection and things. I'm not sure though.
[11:34] <libervisco> like /dev/ttyUSB0 here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=206896&highlight=irda
[11:34] <amidaniel> FunnyLookinHat: Thanks :)
[11:34] <PG> no help i get it^^
[11:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !firewall
[11:34] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[11:34] <unix4me> info gambas
[11:34] <citronio> jamman mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb,
[11:34] <citronio>        missing codepage or other error
[11:34] <citronio>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[11:34] <citronio>        dmesg | tail  or so
[11:34] <corevette> what does the -s in 'ln -s' do?
[11:34] <unix4me> !pastebin
[11:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:35] <unix4me> !pastebin | citronio
[11:35] <ubotu> citronio: please see above
[11:35] <jamman> citronio, well, then sdb isn't your device.
[11:35] <jamman> hmm...
[11:35] <jamman> citronio, try, "sudo mount /dev/hda /media/cdrom0"
[11:36] <jamman> citronio, try, "sudo mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0"
[11:36] <jamman> not hda
[11:36] <Harbl> FunnyLookinHat: So I heard, I'm complicating it by wanting to use truecrypt as the encrypting program I think, rather than having to manage my encrypted partitions and volumes with several different programs
[11:36] <jamman> my bad.
[11:36] <Vulk> jamman: but phpmyadmin is for MySQL
[11:36] <citronio> jamman none of them exist...
[11:36] <Drk_Guy> C-mon guys
[11:36] <jamman> Vulk, isn't that what you want?
[11:36] <Drk_Guy> I need help with X
[11:36] <jamman> citronio, that may have been because you had no cd in there.
[11:36] <Harbl> jammman: using the alternative installer implies that I would have to reinstall though... out of interest what about it makes it easy?
[11:37] <Shadow_Warrior> Warbo: no biggie :) What were options KVM ? VMware and what other?
[11:37] <FunnyLookinHat> Harbl, hmm...  have you looked through the wiki or ubuntuforums.org for a tutorial to help you do this
[11:37] <SkorpKing> Harbl: i use a loopback encrypted filesystem and it works great.
[11:37] <citronio> jamman there is one... sorry...
[11:37] <Vulk> jamman: no, I want to administer and design in Microsoft SQLServer
[11:37] <BaD_CrC> good day peeps
[11:37] <jamman> citronio, good!
[11:37] <jamman> Vulk, oh! i feel sorry for you.
[11:37] <jamman> j/k
[11:38] <citronio> jamman no... it is no good!!! ;)
[11:38] <jamman> citronio, how so?
[11:38] <Vulk> :'(
[11:38] <Warbo> Shadow_Warrior: KVM is a faster Qemu but only works on new hardware with special instructions in the CPU or something (my AMD Turion64 can use it). VMWare is non-free (boo) but popular and VirtualBox is the other one I mentioned.
[11:38] <citronio> jamman, just kidding... it just doesn't work...
[11:38] <jamman> citronio, errors?
[11:38] <Justi2> Can someone give me the directory where they have installed Google Earth to?
[11:39] <Harbl> FunnyLookinHat: I've found a tutorial that tells me about truecrypt. It says to get a truecrypt partition to mount automatically on boot you need to edit the .profile file - but this is in the /home/[user]  directory and that's the one I want encrypted.
[11:39] <citronio> jamman do you think if I try to reinstall ubuntu may help at all?
[11:39] <Vulk> I found SQLUniform, but since some days ago I get a strange error
[11:39] <unix4me> justi2: open up the terminal and type in googleearth or google-earth
[11:39] <Drk_Guy> Justi2, it depends
[11:39] <jamman> citronio, it should.
[11:39] <Harbl> SkorpKing: What encrypting program did you use to set that up?
[11:39] <citronio> jamman yes, it sais that hda and hdc didn't exist, none of them...
[11:39] <darkposeiden> Warbo: vmware server is free
[11:39] <citronio> jamman, ok, i don't bother you any more... i'll try that then...
[11:39] <Warbo> darkposeiden: Well, I still use KVM :)
[11:39] <Justi2> I have tried several installations of google earth (none have worked), and I am just wondering where others have installed it to
[11:39] <jamman> citronio, check out this page (my reference, maybe my explinathttp://www.linuxfocus.org/English/September1999/article106.html#lfindex5ion didn't make sense so...)
[11:40] <citronio> jamman, thanks a lot for your help, man, you have been great!
[11:40] <FunnyLookinHat> Harbl, sounds like you should create a sub folder in your home for all encrypted data...   like /home/[user] /safe
[11:40] <[ZmaX] > citronio: what is your problem ?
[11:41] <citronio> [ZmaX]  I cannot mount my cd-dvd drive
[11:41] <Puppy_> Is this a problem when adding kde as a windows manager: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29563/
[11:41] <Shadow_Warrior> Warbo: would KVM work on a 1.6 GHz 64-bit Celeron ?
[11:41] <SkorpKing> Harbl: just the tools available on the default install. google a bit to get an idea on which way will be the best for you.
[11:41] <[ZmaX] > citronio: did you mean using vmware ?
[11:41] <Chousuke> Shadow_Warrior: no.
[11:42] <BaD_CrC> http://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/
[11:42] <Shadow_Warrior> Shoot!
[11:42] <Chousuke> well, unless that thing has the VT extensions
[11:42] <Shadow_Warrior> :) OK Thanks Chousuke :)
[11:42] <BaD_CrC> that one hasn't failed me yet
[11:42] <Chousuke> and I doubt it does.
[11:42] <Shadow_Warrior> Chousuke: the PC is 3 weeks old.
[11:42] <jamman> Shadow_Warrior, HOLY CRAP!!!
[11:42] <citronio> [ZmaX]  no... I am on ubuntu studio and cannot see the drive at all...
[11:42] <Shadow_Warrior> Don't know how to see if it has the VT extension
[11:42] <Chousuke> Shadow_Warrior: It depends on the processor.
[11:42] <Warbo> There is a command to run to see if the CPU supports KVM... Hang on
[11:42] <jamman> Shadow_Warrior, dual core or dual core extreme or what?
[11:43] <Justi2> what do I type in terminal to install a .bin?
[11:43] <[ZmaX] > citronio: ok...
[11:43] <Chousuke> core (2) duos support it, but I don't know about other.
[11:43] <Shadow_Warrior> Lol jamman I bought it 3 weeks ago :))
[11:43] <Chousuke> core solo too, I guess.
[11:43] <citronio> [ZmaX]  thx anyway...
[11:43] <Chousuke> and some Xeons.
[11:43] <Shadow_Warrior> I think it's solo :)
[11:43] <jamman> Justi2, ./filename.bin or /path/to/.bin
[11:43] <Warbo> Shadow_Warrior: Run this "egrep '^flags.*(vmx|svm)' /proc/cpuinfo"
[11:43] <[ZmaX] > citronio: nothing :)
[11:43] <ssorg> who had this bright little idea http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/5289/nowco2.jpg . i think its a ig insult to the mother of ubuntu. how can i fix it :\ if you would like to know i installed debian from within a ubuntu livecd
[11:44] <jamman> Shadow_Warrior, oh, so your not THAT lucky.
[11:44] <Warbo> Shadow_Warrior: If you get output then you can run KVM
[11:44] <Shadow_Warrior> wow lemme copy it first.
[11:44] <Harbl> FunnyLookinHat: The problem with having all my stuff going in a non-default location is just that: by default all installed programs and the 'settings' style files they create go to the /home/[user]  folder. Having to reconfigure every aspect of ubuntu and the programs therein (as well as ones I've subsequently installed) to go to a location other than /home/[user]  would be pretty hellish. My /home/ is already a separate partition
[11:44] <Shadow_Warrior> jamman: I guess I'm not :)
[11:44] <joakim> how do I install quake4 demo?
[11:45] <CineScope> the E4XXX have it disabled, need a 6XXX or better
[11:45] <FunnyLookinHat> Harbl, oooh.  sorry to hear that.  Well you can give it a try but be warned, you may hurt the data
[11:45] <jamman> Shadow_Warrior, its ok. im on a 500mhz p3
[11:45] <kbrooks> jamman, oh, i'm on much faster p3
[11:45] <LukeEkblad>  I have a problem, when i open add/remove. i get thishttp://lukeekblad.googlepages.com/grrrr message and then i have to exit
[11:45] <jamman> kbrooks, such as?
[11:45] <jamman> 1ghz??
[11:46] <Shadow_Warrior> Hmm Warbo, no output..
[11:46] <m1r> jamman p3 500 rocks :)
[11:46] <Shadow_Warrior> :|
[11:46] <jamman> and is p3 better than celaron?
[11:46] <Shadow_Warrior> jamman: I was on that before I changed it :)
[11:46] <kbrooks> jamman, 997 mhz
[11:46] <kbrooks> jamman, (rounded)
[11:46] <Warbo> Shadow_Warrior: Bad luck. The others should still work. VMWare is the most popular, so there'll be the most guides available
[11:46] <jamman> m1r, amen. fairly fast too!
[11:46] <Shadow_Warrior> lol the other was a celeron too :) imagine a celeron at 500 MHz
[11:46] <kbrooks> jamman, i did a cat /proc/cpuinfo
[11:46] <sexything014> haha whats up people
[11:46] <m1r> jamman, my best lappy :D
[11:47] <sexything014> this is sexything014 and im 19 lol
[11:47] <Shadow_Warrior> Thanks for the help Warbo  :)
[11:47] <Harbl> FunnyLookinHat: It's looking like I'll use dm-crypt and a couple of connected programs to do the job, as that program does have a better mechanism for mounting encrypted volumes (like /home) on boot. As I say, I was trying to avoid a situation where I had multiple encryption programs on the go, but that looks like the best way
[11:47] <CineScope> vmx flag?
[11:47] <joakim> How do I install quake4 demo?
[11:47] <kbrooks> sexything014, #ubuntu-offtopic please.
[11:47] <jamman> kbrooks, yeah... i have a server with two p3 xeons, that thing is FAST!!!
[11:47] <kbrooks> sexything014, thank you.
[11:47] <Shadow_Warrior> Thanks jamman for the help :)
[11:47] <sexything014> for what
[11:47] <raffytaffy> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables  :( please help someone
[11:47] <jamman> so is a celaron better than a p3
[11:47] <Greyscale> Does anyone have anything that can change my background every few minuites based on the content of a directory?
[11:47] <kbrooks> sexything014, type /join #ubuntu-offtopic and press enter
[11:47] <jamman> Shadow_Warrior, what help?
[11:47] <Shadow_Warrior> I don't really know if it is... :)
[11:47] <jamman> Greyscale, kde!
[11:47] <FunnyLookinHat> Harbl, seems to be...   be sure to post in the forum about your success or failure so that people can help you or learn from you   : )    You seem to put  alot of effort into planning
[11:48] <kbrooks> sexything014, #ubuntu is not a chatting channel.
[11:48] <Shadow_Warrior> jamman: the qemu hint :)
[11:48] <m1r> is our dear ubotu back ?
[11:48] <jamman> oh no! about to run out of battery!
[11:48] <Marotte_> sexything014: it's a help channel, not a pavement...
[11:48] <jamman> Shadow_Warrior, oh, ok.
[11:48] <mario> How can I determine if I am running 32 bit or 64 bit ubuntu?
[11:48] <sexything014> lol o
[11:48] <kbrooks> sexything014, #ubuntu-offtopic is one of the chatting channels.
[11:48] <joakim> How do I install a .run file?
[11:48] <jamman> so is a p3 better than a celaron? quickly plz!
[11:48] <kbrooks> sexything014, that you can chat in.
[11:48] <Marotte_> :)
[11:48] <jamman> same mhz btw.
[11:48] <Greyscale> jamman, take your kde and get away from me before you start a destop war
[11:48] <Justi2> Can someone help me setup Beryl?
[11:48] <Harbl> FunnyLookinHat: I simultaneously value the privacy of my data, while not wanting to accidentally destroy it :) Cheers
[11:48] <who_cares> how do I force a package to be removed?
[11:49] <jamman> Greyscale, just saying it does this out of the box.
[11:49] <joakim> @jamman, a new celeron is better than a P3
[11:49] <m1r> jamman, yes if u get p3 for celeron
[11:49] <sexything014> there
[11:49] <who_cares> when I try to remove avg I get this: "E: avg75fld: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 150"
[11:49] <ssorg> gay ubuntu team
[11:49] <SlimeyPete> mario: do a "uname -a" in a terminal. 32-bit will say i386 or i686.
[11:49] <freebse> sexything014: go to #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[11:49] <jamman> m1r, cool.
[11:49] <SkorpKing> vmware can simulate almost any os and its real easy to get it running. http://www.virtualization.info/2005/12/guide-to-create-vmx-files-for-vmware.html
[11:49] <kbrooks> sexything014, so, please type "/join #ubuntu-offtopic" without the quotes and press enter.
[11:49] <jamman> old celaron, btw.
[11:49] <jamman> about the same time as the p3's
[11:49] <Greyscale> jamman, feh.
[11:49] <kbrooks> sexything014, and thank you again, for the last time.
[11:49] <joakim> @jamman, then the celeron is worse
[11:50] <jamman> for gnome, Greyscale, i don't know.
[11:50] <jamman> joakim, kool.
[11:50] <jamman> joakim, good to know.
[11:50] <sexything014> kbrooks fuck that i dont no what to do i new on this fucking computer
[11:50] <jamman> i like p3's to begin with, the dell ones are easy to oc.
[11:50] <joakim> But how do I install the quake4 demo?
[11:50] <kbrooks> sexything014, please don't swear.
[11:50] <jamman> !ohmy | sexything014
[11:50] <ubotu> sexything014: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:50] <jamman> joakim, what file format?
[11:50] <liberion> ubotu, hello
[11:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hello - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:51] <liberion> hello everyone
[11:51] <joakim> .run
[11:51] <kbrooks> sexything014, and are you sure you don't "no" what to do because you're new on your computer?
[11:51] <benje> hello
[11:51] <Justi2> 1) How do I enable both the Wired connection and wireless connection at the same time? 2) Can someone help me setup Beryl?
[11:51] <freebse> does everybody has his Kernel updated :) it is quite important, but the pakages are old, when I checked yesterday
[11:51] <Shadow_Warrior> Lol qemu can't boot XP, it just shows the BSOD after a few seconds and reboots :)
[11:51] <LukeEkblad> I have a problem, and i'v been trying to get help since last night!  Pleas somebody help me fix this.  ok, when I open the Add/Remove thing this error pops up http://lukeekblad.googlepages.com/grrrr then i have to exit it.  Pleas heeeeelp
[11:51] <jamman> joakim, ./quake-installer-name.run
[11:51] <ilu> whats the aptitude command to install java?
[11:51] <kbrooks> Shadow_Warrior, #qemu has a simple and foolproof (almost) solution
[11:51] <m1r> lukeekblad, did u try all options that screen gave you ?
[11:52] <joakim> @jamman, ok, Ill try!
[11:52] <Harbl> Shadow_Warrior, I'm of little help here but did you alter the partitions on your boot hdd? (Assuming you boot ubuntu and winxp from the same one)
[11:52] <bastid_raZor> apt-get install java_library_name
[11:52] <kbrooks> Shadow_Warrior, create a window hardware profile
[11:52] <kbrooks> Shadow_mil, then boot using it.
[11:52] <jamman> joakim, that is if you are in the same directory as the file.
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[11:52] <SkorpKing> Shadow_Warrior: qemu does run xp but only in save mode.
[11:52] <LukeEkblad> m1r: yes
[11:52] <bastid_raZor> ilu that is how i installed it.
[11:52] <kbrooks> SkorpKing, not true
[11:52] <kbrooks> everyone:
[11:52] <joakim> @jamman, ok
[11:52] <bastid_raZor> ilu are you running that as root?
[11:52] <Shadow_Warrior> SkorpKing: not even that ... if reboots after mup.sys
 ok
[11:52] <jamman> joakim, if not, "/home/user_name/name-of.run" should work.
[11:53] <kbrooks> qemu is offtopic here, please join #qemu
 what is the full name of the java file?
[11:53] <benje> i have a problem with ati driver all is good configured but it seems to not use the agp module for the motherboard even it's add in the modules file
[11:53] <CaptainM> LukeEkblad, did you try 'sudo apt-get install -f' (without the quotes)?
[11:53] <Marotte_> bye
[11:53] <LukeEkblad> Yes
[11:53] <bastid_raZor> ilu goto ubuntu.packages.com search there
[11:53] <kbrooks> i repeat: qemu is offtopic here, please join #qemu . thank you.
[11:53] <ilu> k
[11:53] <SkorpKing> Shadow_Warrior: i somehow got mine installed and working on qemu. i now use vmware for xp and vista.
[11:53] <benje> config file is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29552/
[11:53] <Justi2> 1) How do I enable both the Wired connection and wireless connection at the same time? 2) Can someone help me setup Beryl?
[11:53] <liberion> how many woman do we have using ubuntu on this channel ?
 1) How do I enable both the Wired connection and wireless connection at the same time? 2) Can someone help me setup Beryl?
 site is down
[11:54] <Shadow_Warrior> kbrooks: what do you mean? I have to install if from qemu?
[11:54] <kbrooks> jussi01, 1) you don't. 2) #ubuntu-effects
[11:54] <Shadow_Warrior> SkorpKing: Would I have to install XP from qemU?
[11:54] <Anlar> Justi2: google for "trunking"
[11:54] <CaptainM> LukeEkblad, what about your sources.list? is there maybe an error in there?
[11:54] <bastid_raZor> ilu it is working for me
[11:54] <kbrooks> Justi2, 1) you don't. 2) #ubuntu-effects
[11:54] <jhaig> I have installed crossover office via a .deb file using dpkg.  Now every time I try to do something with apt-get I get a message to say that it needs to be reinstalled and I cannot do anything *including* uninstalling the offending package.  Can anyone help me please?
 oh its packages.ubuntu.com
[11:54] <kbrooks> jhaig, what is the actual message please.
[11:55] <kootaphor> Does anyone know of a good mouseless client (or media system, a la elisa) that supports either DAAP or MPD? (It's for a home media center on my TV, mouseless. Music collection is HUGE, computer is old.)
[11:55] <SkorpKing> Shadow_Warrior: if you are on a linux box yes, but as i said - vmware is much easier. http://www.virtualization.info/2005/12/guide-to-create-vmx-files-for-vmware.html
[11:55] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38082 <error  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38083 <dmesg
[11:55] <bastid_raZor> ilu: heh, oh my bad
[11:55] <LukeEkblad> CaptainM  yes, there might, but i dont know how to fix it.   I'm kinda new to linux
[11:55] <kbrooks> jhaig, a summary of the message is NOT the actual message.
[11:55] <intelikey> anyone know what is causing this odd output ?
[11:55] <phisher1> hello
 ;)
[11:55] <Shadow_Warrior> SkorpKing: Thank you but if it's not free how do I get it installed?
[11:55] <Anlar> kbrooks: he can enable "both", all he has to do is to use trunking (from the perspective of his system)
[11:55] <phisher1> how can I install tcl/tk on ubuntu ?
[11:55] <Shadow_Warrior> With apt-get?
[11:55] <CaptainM> LukeEkblad, past it somewhere and give me the link
[11:55] <kbrooks> jhaig, what exactly does apt-get say?
[11:55] <KennethP> h
[11:55] <CaptainM> !paste | LukeEkblad
[11:55] <ubotu> LukeEkblad: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:55] <jhaig> "sudo dpkg --remove crossover-pro" gives "Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal." and anything else gives " and (for example) "sudo apt-get install k3b" gives "E: The package crossover-pro needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it."
[11:56] <SkorpKing> Shadow_Warrior: sudo aptitude install vmplayer
[11:56] <intelikey> phisher1 pckage manager
[11:56] <bastid_raZor> ilu: you probably need sun-java6-bin
[11:56] <phisher1> intelikey pardon ?
[11:56] <benje> non idee it's said where i found information that to resolve the agp xf86_ENODEV i must load the agp module for the chipset but that doesn't resolv the problem
[11:56] <kbrooks> jhaig, all right, reinstall it then.
 yuh thats the name
[11:56] <intelikey> phisher1 how to install .... package manager
[11:56] <CaptainM> LukeEkblad, It's located at /etc/apt/sources.list (if you didn't know that already)
[11:56] <LukeEkblad> CaptainM: paist what?
[11:56] <kbrooks> jhaig, and remove.
[11:56] <jhaig> kbrooks: Sorry for my odd English grammar.  :-)
[11:56] <Shadow_Warrior> Thanks SkorpKing
[11:56] <phisher1> that's an answer?  "package manager" ?
[11:56] <Spaceman3750> I have an installation question
[11:56] <SkorpKing> Shadow_Warrior: np
[11:57] <phisher1> can you give me the package name? I've been searching for a while.. not finding the answer
[11:57] <Spaceman3750> This thing will leave Windows intact, won't it?
[11:57] <LukeEkblad> CaptainM luke@luke-laptop:~$  /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:57] <LukeEkblad> bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
[11:57] <LukeEkblad> luke@luke-laptop:~$
[11:57] <LukeEkblad> luke@luke-laptop:~$
[11:57] <intelikey> phisher1 yes.   what?  you need me to do it for you?
[11:57] <liberion> intelikey, so is it working alright?
[11:57] <puff> Gah, my wireless is still fscked.
[11:57] <Spaceman3750> It says it's going to destroy some data
[11:57] <phisher1> intelikey, no, but if you know the package name, that would be great
[11:57] <CaptainM> LukeEkblad, in a terminal type gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list past that text at pastbin and give me the link
[11:57] <intelikey> liberion yeah as far as i can tell
[11:57] <phisher1> feisty fawn
[11:57] <bastid_raZor> ilu: apt-get is great about letting you know what else you need, i normally do the recommended packages as well
[11:57] <Spaceman3750> Help...
[11:58] <Spaceman3750> Guys, the Feisty installation leaves Windows intact, right?
[11:58] <intelikey> phisher1 all the package manager frontends have search features     apt-cache search tcl | less
[11:58] <CaptainM> Spaceman3750, yes
[11:58] <Shadow_Warrior> SkorpKing: is it vmware-player ?
 apt-get did not work so i did sude aptitude install sun-blabla
[11:58] <ptn107> Spaceman3750: yes, if you don't choose to format the windows partition
[11:58] <SkorpKing> Shadow_Warrior: yes
[11:58] <hekar> Spaceman3750: as long as you install it correctly
[11:58] <phisher1> only thing that finds is ruby
[11:58] <Shadow_Warrior> OK Thanks :D
[11:58] <Spaceman3750> OK, I'm using the automated installer
[11:58] <bastid_raZor> ilu: yeah apt-get needs to be run as root
[11:58] <LukeEkblad> CaptainM ok, hold on
[11:58] <Justi2> #ubuntu-effects is unwilling to assist me with beryl
[11:59] <satan> I just have been working on my first debian package and everythings going well, there's a man page menus pixmaps etc, but in the control file I'm not sure what to put in the "depends" field. The program uses python. How would I know if a certain python-dev package is required?
[11:59] <Shadow_Warrior> Justi2: what problem do you have with beryl?
[11:59] <Shadow_Warrior> I might be able to help
[11:59] <bastid_raZor> ilu: if you want to have a terminal open as root, which i normally have atleast one, do sudo bash  .. this will make your user root for that entire session
[11:59] <b0ha> why do torrents in rtorrent disappear when i close it?
[11:59] <jhaig> kbrooks: That seems to have worked, thanks.  Erm, I'm sure I tried it before.  :-/
[11:59] <CaptainM> Justi2, unfortunately beryl is experimental and we can't really help you with that here. Try posting in the forum.
[11:59] <intelikey> !find tcl8 > phisher1
[11:59] <liberion> intelikey, so what is there to fix then?
[11:59] <bastid_raZor> ilu: but i tend to do a lot of things via CLI
[11:59] <pastorn> b0ha: you need a good config file
[11:59] <LukeEkblad> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29564/   CaptainM
[12:00] <Justi2> shadow_warrior: when I try to enable beryl as my windows manager, the screen flickers and it goes back to GNOME
[12:00] <pastorn> let me send you mine....
[12:00] <phisher1> hmmm..old versions of tcl
[12:00] <CaptainM> LukeEkblad, I'll check it out
[12:00] <intelikey> liberion the error messages at boot time.
[12:00] <Shadow_Warrior> Justi2: OK... open a terminal and type beryl-manager
[12:00] <EADG_> b0ha: Thats the way it works, it doesn't save sessions, as far as I know.
[12:00] <pastorn> b0ha: this requires that there is a directory ~/torrent/
[12:00] <freebse> bastid_raZor: I kind of dislike working with sudo, but this is an old conflict in here :)
[12:00] <Shadow_Warrior> Justi2: have you installed beryl-manager?
 yeah... i just installed linux btw so i am totaly new to all this... but i have gotten mp3s and movies etc to work... i even installed luxury icons http://www.everaldo.com/
[12:00] <Shadow_Warrior> if not sudo apt-get install beryl-manager
[12:00] <b0ha> pastorn what is ~for?
[12:00] <LukeEkblad> CaptainM ok
[12:01] <Justi2> shadow_warrior: yes and its running