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[09:20] morning cprov! === bigjools [n=bigjools@canonical/launchpad/bigjools] has joined #launchpad === fabbione [i=fabbione@nat/canonical/x-b792111838113025] has joined #launchpad === carlos [n=carlos@canonical/launchpad/carlos] has joined #launchpad [09:58] morning [09:59] Hi carlos. === gmb [n=gmb@i-83-67-5-113.freedom2surf.net] has joined #launchpad === dneary_ [n=dneary@mne69-9-88-163-116-163.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #launchpad === schwuk [n=dave@ubuntu/member/schwuk] has joined #launchpad === mrevell [n=matthew@canonical/launchpad/mrevell] has joined #launchpad [10:12] Morning all! [10:12] morning mrevell! [10:12] hey Hobbsee - what were your impressions of Edge, then? [10:12] mrevell: slower, but were OK :) [10:13] the 12 dupes i marked just then were quick. opened them in tabs, did them that way, etc [10:13] Hobbsee: Ah, so the slowness persisted? That's a shame [10:13] ah, whcih is production [10:13] not sure. i mean, it's slow anyway [10:14] i wonder if i can search for things with /'s in them... [10:14] nope === BjornT [n=bjorn@canonical/launchpad/BjornT] has joined #launchpad [10:14] Hobbsee: Search for apostrophes? [10:15] mrevell: for slashes [10:15] oh right [10:15] Hobbsee: Got an example? === seb128 [i=seb@nat/canonical/x-7aad4b86991a7648] has joined #launchpad [10:15] mrevell: searching for /usr/share/icons/locolor [10:15] should bring up https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/125400 [10:15] Launchpad bug 125400 in openoffice.org "[MASTER] package openoffice.org-common 2.2.1-5ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Chris Cheney (ccheney) [10:16] Hobbsee: Ah, I see. [10:16] Hobbsee: Have you spoken to BjornT about that? [10:16] Malone search sucks. Surely you've learnt that by now, Hobbsee? [10:16] mrevell: nope. just tried it today [10:16] Fujitsu: i did know that. anything that's not a-z is a bit hit and miss === Fujitsu has a bug open about `[can-not-install] ' being unsearchable too. === seb128_ [i=seb@nat/canonical/x-9490123838c2c3e4] has joined #launchpad === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #launchpad [10:23] Hobbsee: fixing searching is not something that is simple to do. the best thing you can do is to file bugs about what doesn't work, even though it might take quite a while for the bug to be fixed. [10:24] BjornT: i figured that, from when i wrote a search engine thing, for uni :P [10:24] BjornT: it seems to be just anything with a symbol, i suspect, but i'll have to test more before filing === gmb is now known as gmb-afk === babarhaq [n=babarhaq@203.215.161.166] has joined #launchpad [10:40] Hi all, i submitted a bug some time back. how can i follow it up since i lost the bug # and launchpad doesent seem to offer something like "my submitted bugs" [10:41] babarhaq: https://launchpad.net/people/+me/+reportedbugs [10:41] Fujitsu: thnax [10:41] babarhaq: np [10:42] isnt it ~me/+reportedbugs [10:44] gnomefreak: Not unless your username is `me' [10:45] Fujitsu: you used +me thought it should be ~ instead [10:45] gnomefreak: people/+me, not +me [10:46] https://launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/ is my homepage no people and its ~nick [10:47] gnomefreak: That's the same as /people/gnomefreak. === zwnj [n=behnam@213.207.210.231] has joined #launchpad [10:47] ah ok === kompressor [n=kompress@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #launchpad === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #launchpad === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.4.74] has joined #launchpad [11:06] can somebody look at bug 125472 [11:06] Launchpad bug 125472 in launchpad "mail bounced sent to launchpad" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125472 === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.121.1] has joined #launchpad === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.4.74] has left #launchpad [] [11:16] New bug: #125472 in launchpad "mail bounced sent to launchpad" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125472 === meduxa [n=agustin@213.231.80.16.static.user.ono.com] has joined #launchpad === Watersevenub [n=Watersev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #launchpad === gmb-afk is now known as gmb === intellectronica [i=intellec@nat/canonical/x-b0354bb99963cfb2] has joined #launchpad === jtv [n=jtv@125-24-218-19.adsl.totbb.net] has joined #launchpad === kiko [n=kiko@canonical/launchpad/pdpc.supporter.active.kiko] has joined #launchpad === schwuk [n=dave@ubuntu/member/schwuk] has joined #launchpad === zwnj [n=behnam@193.189.122.196] has joined #launchpad === kiko is now known as kiko-afk === Spads [n=spacehob@unaffiliated/spads] has joined #launchpad === kompressor [n=kompress@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #launchpad === siretart [i=siretart@tauware.de] has joined #launchpad === Spads [n=spacehob@unaffiliated/spads] has joined #launchpad === Adri2000_ is now known as Adri2000 === danilos [n=danilo@adsl-236-193.eunet.yu] has joined #launchpad === Pricey [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #launchpad === ddaa [n=david@canonical/launchpad/ddaa] has joined #launchpad === mranostay|work [n=mranosta@cpe-088197.static.wadsnet.net] has joined #launchpad === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.106.1] has joined #launchpad === xerosis [n=kieran@cpc2-shep5-0-0-cust722.lei3.cable.ntl.com] has joined #launchpad === matsubara [n=matsubar@canonical/launchpad/matsubara] has joined #launchpad === mrevell is now known as mrevell-lunch [02:26] New bug: #125505 in launchpad "Person.addMember() does not properly invalidate the person's _inTeam_cache" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125505 === radhios [n=radhios@96-208-126-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #launchpad === pcardune [i=pcardune@conference/europython/x-160eb546481a11cd] has joined #launchpad === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #launchpad === cprov is now known as cprov-lunch === kompressor [n=kompress@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #launchpad === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #launchpad === gmb is now known as gmb-afk === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #launchpad === mrevell-lunch is now known as mrevell === kompressor [n=kompress@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #launchpad === gmb-afk is now known as gmb === flacoste [n=francis@canonical/launchpad/flacoste] has joined #launchpad === schwuk [n=dave@ubuntu/member/schwuk] has joined #launchpad [03:36] /nick barry === Hobbsee confiscates barry's spacebar === barry doesn't need it anyway! he uses xemacs and has esc ctrl meta hyper 9 bound to space [03:38] haha [03:38] oh dear === jtv [n=jtv@125-24-218-19.adsl.totbb.net] has joined #launchpad === kompressor [n=kompress@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #launchpad === Rinchen [n=joey@canonical/launchpad/rinchen] has joined #launchpad === OgMaciel [n=omaciel@foresight/developer/OgMaciel] has joined #launchpad === adeuring [n=abel@Fc1ab.f.ppp-pool.de] has joined #launchpad === doko [i=doko@nat/canonical/x-00e4581c25f2afcb] has joined #launchpad === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #launchpad [03:52] barry: dude! [03:52] barry: I learned just the other day you joined canonical [03:52] jordi: hello! good to hear from you again! [03:53] this is convenient, because this way I can tell you via IRC I should become (again!) the Catalan Champion for mm [03:53] yes, i joined in feb [03:53] barry: I had no idea [03:53] barry: I'm currently fixing up the templates for the current stable version; should I focus on CVS? [03:53] jordi: that would be excellent. maybe we can talk about some of my short term ideas for improving translation (short of moving to rosetta, which may still happen). === Spads_ [i=spacehob@nat/canonical/x-3aa29bc06f7adc88] has joined #launchpad [03:54] barry: yeah, sure! [03:54] jordi: we're on bzr+lp now :) [03:54] oh, okay :) [03:54] I haven't tried downloading in a while, you see ;) [03:54] http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/MailmanBranches [03:55] that's okay. hope all has been well with you! === fernando1 [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-92798786608679fc] has joined #launchpad [03:55] yeah [03:55] we didn't meet here by just one month [03:55] ah, moved on June 22. [03:56] I wasn't *that* out of datye === sinzu2 [n=sinzui@pool-70-17-109-83.res.east.verizon.net] has joined #launchpad [03:56] nope. bzr so rocks better than svn [03:56] yeah [03:57] "svn rocks" just prints an error === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #launchpad [03:57] okay, I wasout of date. I think the last time I downloaded bleeding edge mailman, it was on cvs, not svn :P === cprov-lunch is now known as cprov [03:58] jordi, yeah, that /is/ pretty old. i don't remember how long since we moved to svn, but it's been a while [03:58] jamesh: :) === Spads [i=spacehob@unaffiliated/spads] has joined #launchpad [04:00] me === mpt spears Rinchen's bot [04:00] hehe [04:00] anyway [04:00] MEETING TIME [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:00] me === sinzu2 is now known as sinzui [04:00] me [04:00] For the next half hour or so, we'll be discussing Launchpad development. [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:00] Who is here today? [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:00] me [04:01] me [04:01] me [04:01] meme [04:01] me [04:01] me [04:01] me [04:01] me [04:01] me [04:01] Team leaders, please check that all your colleagues who should be here are [04:02] Who is representing the lp-bazaar team today? [04:02] me [04:02] jtv: ping [04:02] mh === mthaddon [n=mthaddon@canonical/launchpad/mthaddon] has joined #launchpad [04:02] stub, SteveA and mthaddon are not here === barry pokes barry [04:02] danilos: pong [04:02] errr [04:02] ddaa, ok [04:02] hi mthaddon [04:02] jtv: :) [04:02] here [04:02] I guess that should be me, but I have not done my homework. [04:02] == Agenda == [04:03] * Next meeting [04:03] * Actions from last meeting [04:03] * Oops report (Matsubara) [04:03] * Bug report ([wiki:JoeyStanford/topweeklybugs Current Top Items] ) [04:03] * Bug tags [04:03] me [04:03] * Operations report (mthaddon) === kiko-afk is now known as kiko [04:03] * DBA report (stub) [04:03] * Sysadmin requests [04:03] * A top user-affecting issue (mrevell) [04:03] * Changes to security.cfg, edge.launchpad.net and you (kiko) [04:03] jsk_: ping [04:03] intellectronica: ping [04:03] * Pre-release QA (matsubara) [04:03] * Blockers [04:03] me [04:03] BjornT, hi [04:03] mpt: stub said he'd be late [04:03] BjornT: pong [04:03] ok [04:03] mpt: I think you forgot the question about who will not be in next meeting [04:04] jsk_, intellectronica: i was pinging you for the meeting [04:04] carlos, I have not forgotten [04:04] me [04:04] ok :-P [04:04] BjornT, thanks! [04:04] BjornT:cheers! [04:04] mwh is at at post-EuroPython PyPy sprint [04:04] Any other apologies? [04:04] thanks jtv [04:05] == Next meeting == [04:05] mpt: hmm, I didn't see 'Next meeting' entry in the agenda, sorry [04:05] Who will be unable to attend same time next week? === carlos will be at GUADEC next week [04:06] I will make a special effort [04:06] though I will be at planning [04:06] danilo? === Watersevenub [n=Watersev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #launchpad [04:06] == Actions from last meeting == [04:06] * jamesh to follow up on bug 58220 [04:06] Launchpad bug 58220 in launchpad "When an error occurs processing a request another oops is recorded because there's no interaction set up." [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58220 - Assigned to James Henstridge (jamesh) === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@mail.foredil.it] has joined #launchpad [04:06] Well, given that danilos seems like is not around [04:07] mpt: danilos will be at GUADEC too [04:07] carlos, ok [04:07] danilos, wake up! [04:07] did jamesh look at that? [04:07] jamesh? [04:07] no I didn't. === jamesh makes a note of it [04:08] ok, thanks === niemeyer [i=niemeyer@conference/europython/x-4a83c21519074b6a] has joined #launchpad [04:08] I will be at GUADEC next week, along with carlos, then off to sprint with jtv and carlos week after that [04:08] == Oops report (Matsubara) == [04:08] That bug is targeted for 1.1.7 btw. Kiko? [04:08] hum, is my text making it through? [04:08] mpt: No new oops to report [04:08] danilos, yes, thanks [04:08] danilos: yes [04:09] Rinchen, I guess not any longer :-( retarget. [04:09] matsubara, really? wow [04:09] top timeout OOPSes are still translate and filebug [04:09] thanks anyway :-) [04:09] kiko, ok, that's what I was after. thx. [04:09] == Bug report == [04:09] mpt: nothing new. the ones we have are known and people are working on it. [04:09] ok [04:09] There are two in progress critical bugs this week: Bug 125126 and Bug 125423. [04:09] Both are in progress and targeting 1.1.7. For the future, I've changed the meeting agenda to reference this as "critical bugs" and removed the ugly wiki link seen each week on paste. Any comments? [04:09] Launchpad bug 125126 in blueprint "Broken "register a blueprint" link on certain blueprint listing pages." [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125126 - Assigned to Jonathan Knowles (jsk) [04:09] Bug 125423 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/125423 is private [04:10] ok, thanks [04:10] 3 [04:10] 2 [04:10] mpt, back to you [04:10] jsk: I'm working on that one right now. [04:10] Rinchen, I will mail you about the bug report in the next few days. Please nag me if you notice that I haven't. [04:10] jsk_, I know. Saw the branch :-) [04:11] thanks Joey [04:11] mpt, will do [04:11] == Bug tags == [04:11] There are currently no proposed tags [04:12] == Operations report (mthaddon) == [04:12] Discovered a staging DB update that was slowing things down yesterday, but I think stub has fixed this? [04:12] Working on app server reconfig, and PQM duration graphing [04:12] Edge redirects seemed to work okay [04:12] that's it from me [04:12] mthaddon, do all the edge subdomains have correct certificates now? [04:13] mthaddon, when we do the app server reconfig edge will start being able to send email, right? [04:13] mpt: certificates ordered, and setup in process [04:13] great [04:13] kiko: I believe that will happen as part of the app server reconfig [04:13] rock on! [04:13] I happen to know that that will make life more bearable for Safari users, who currently have no CSS at all on edge subdomains :-) [04:13] Launchpad mail is a wondrous thing. [04:14] really, for both of them? :) [04:14] == DBA report (stub) == [04:14] stub's not here [04:14] he says nothing to report [04:14] so he isn't [04:14] thanks jtv [04:14] and everyone, please land your changes by... [04:14] ...whatever deadline kiko & joey say. [04:14] EOF [04:15] == Sysadmin requests == [04:15] We've had a number of RT requests close this week including the final PPA setup ticket. Is anyone blocked on an RT request? [04:15] I have [04:15] RT 28515 === Rinchen copies that down. [04:15] "Rewrite rule for http://bazaar.launchpad.net/robots.txt" [04:15] blocking one of my 1.1.7 bugs [04:15] ddaa, ok, I kick up it's priority [04:16] Rinchen: yes, germanium seems to be ready (although, I haven't messed with production DB yet) [04:16] ddaa, if this happens again (and this is a general statement to everyone) please don't wait until Thursday to contact me. Email or ping me ASAP. [04:16] Rinchen: I sent the RT yesterday [04:16] I thought that could wait till the meeting :) [04:16] ddaa, then it's likely your bug will not make 1.1.7. [04:17] ddaa, thanks. :-) [04:17] ? [04:17] kiko: closing the RT fixes the bug [04:17] no code involved [04:17] ddaa, week 3 is not the week to be discovering anything. [04:18] kiko, ddaa reported on Monday that this was a config change. [04:18] kiko, I didn't realize it was an RT request but I'm happy to deal with that. It may not make it for 1.1.7 though. [04:19] Rinchen, why wasn't the RT filed on Monday then? anyway... [04:19] Anyone else blocked on RT? [04:19] kiko, yes the timing is a bit later than desired. [04:19] mpt, back to you [04:19] thank you Rinchen [04:19] == Sysadmin requests == [04:19] whoops, already done that [04:19] interate [04:19] iterate === Rinchen chuckles. [04:19] == A top user-affecting issue (mrevell) == [04:20] A quick one today! [04:20] font colors!!! === kiko winks [04:20] People filed a large number of duplicate bugs following today's OpenOffice.org updates in Ubuntu. [04:20] This required a lot of manual work from the bug squad. [04:20] Hobbsee has asked if we can introduce better bug duplicate checking intro Launchpad. [04:20] I was pleased to direct her to edge, where she was able to see our new approach to bug dupe warning. [04:20] Thanks mpt, back to you. [04:20] As I say, a quick one. [04:20] rock on launchpad! [04:20] kiko: No, not font colours :) [04:20] I'll take this opportunity to pimp the duplicate-bug-handling spec, which would make duplicates quicker to mark :-) [04:21] thanks mrevell [04:21] == Pre-release QA (matsubara) == [04:21] How's the testing going? Did you guys prepared a plan to tackle all thespecs and bugs to be tested? I know that Translations team have one(wiki:TranslationsTestPlan). Other teams have something similar? [04:21] no, not yet [04:22] flacoste? thumper? jsk_? [04:22] flacoste: no test plan in place yet [04:23] kiko: no formal test plan in place. Though have been conducting informal testing. [04:23] no, i don't have a plan, but my landing work is fundamental, with no external exposure yet. [04:23] Those plans can get pretty big, so don't wait too long! [04:23] what jtv said. but land your patches. :) [04:23] ...and brush your teeth. [04:23] and let me know if you need help testing [04:24] I think the format jtv used for the Translations test plan is pretty good. you guys can follow that one [04:24] or improve on it. [04:24] remember that you need to deliver a sign-off email [04:24] in the format we specified [04:25] matsubara will be collecting them [04:25] mthaddon, matsubara's QA sign-off is a release blocker, btw! [04:25] gotcha === Rinchen points out that matsubara will be collecting them, not Rin. [04:25] This smells like something that could be handled with tags and bug comments [04:25] mpt, what could? [04:25] testing and sign-off [04:25] As for testing, my hat is also in the ring. If you want help, I'm also available. [04:25] mpt: could, but harder to edit! [04:26] I don't think so [04:26] I think mpt has a point [04:26] but let me think about it [04:26] anyway [04:26] That's probably a subject for another day [04:26] right. [04:26] Thank you matsubara [04:26] ok. thanks mpt [04:26] == Changes to security.cfg, edge.launchpad.net and you (kiko) == [04:27] Okay [04:27] this is a quick topic [04:27] edge as you run runs against the production database [04:27] now, there's a slight loophole in the DB freeze [04:27] and that is that changes to security.cfg can be made even during freeze [04:28] this runs the risk of causing edge oopses, however, if edge requires a permission that has not been granted to the production DB [04:28] so if you are landing a security.cfg change while the database is frozen [04:28] you need to email stub, mthaddon CC: launchpad asking them to apply the manual change to jubany as well [04:29] reviewers, please note this when you see a security.cfg change. [04:29] any questions? if not, EOT [04:29] kiko, is this written up on a wiki page that will be more visible than a meeting log? [04:29] no. [04:30] and I don't know what wiki page to write it on TBH. [04:30] ok [04:30] kiko: I'll volunteer to add a note about this to the reviewers page [04:30] statik, thanks! [04:30] thanks statik [04:30] ok [04:30] == Week 3 reviews (kiko) == [04:31] I'm looking at the reviews page [04:31] statik: perhaps also DatabaseSchemaChanges [04:31] there are a few things I'm a bit concerned with [04:31] barry: ack [04:31] a) jml has put up two branches that weren't signed off on yesterday. [04:31] is anyone not familiar with the no-new-branches-unless-signed-off-by-me rule? [04:31] kiko: after friday of week 2? [04:32] correct. [04:32] kiko, I was unfamiliar with that, and there's a branch like that of mine there too [04:32] mpt, your branch is not targeted at 1.1.7. [04:32] that's fine. [04:32] kiko: Me - I've seen dribs and drabs but never saw the original email. === kiko forwards email to gmb [04:32] Ta. [04:32] okay [04:32] Original Email from kiko has the subject of: "Read this: 2007-06 (1.1.7) process updates" [04:33] kiko, the what-next branch is. [04:33] mpt, it's reviewed anyway [04:33] yes :-) [04:33] b) I'm concerned that reviewers haven't done their reviews in advance, which is quite unfortunate [04:33] please finish all your review replies now [04:33] I mean -- at the end of the meeting, start, and don't finish until you're replied to all your pending reviews [04:33] or decided to give up [04:33] will do. I've been particularly bad at this [04:33] I don't want a PQM trainwreck tomorrow. [04:34] kiko: of course reviewers have their own branches they're trying to get through review, so there's a tension there [04:34] barry, monday-wednesday should really have been a review priority, in hindsight.. [04:34] but anyway, let's make sure we finish replies today, because otherwise it will really be too late. [04:35] is anyone interested in working late friday? [04:35] kiko: i think we need to find some time to talk about this in more detail. not now tho. +1 on cranking through reviews [04:35] yeah. === carlos is tired to do that [04:35] carlos, that's okay -- I just want to know if anyone /is/ interested [04:35] in lieu of having branches dropped off 1.1.7 [04:36] kiko: I'm just pointing that is not something good to do :-) [04:36] I will, but I'm crazy [04:36] kiko: i can help if needed [04:36] Kiko: I always work late Fridays. [04:36] well, reason I'm asking is that we could freeze PQM saturday morning my time instead [04:36] given that so many people are late [04:36] kiko: i can work late on reviews if necessary [04:36] kiko: I'll be here. [04:36] kiko: sure [04:37] bac, it's not so much reviews as it is landings -- reviews should be finished today, really [04:37] okay, let's see how today went and I'll decide tonight [04:37] let me know, kiko [04:37] mthaddon, thanks :) I wasn't asking you to work sat, though -- I would have requested perms to do the change myself [04:37] kiko: true, but there will be follow-ups. [04:37] kiko: unless everyone gets merge-conditional, reviews are needed as well. [04:38] at this point it's either merge-conditional or 1.1.8 I feel. [04:38] kiko: I can do a one line change on Sat if need be (that's all it requires) [04:38] mthaddon, okay. thanks so much. [04:38] I think I've made myself impopular enough now! let the meeting proceed. [04:38] Thank you kiko [04:39] == Blockers == [04:39] tomorrow is going to be a loooong day [04:39] TEAM: infrastructure BLOCKED: no [04:39] TEAM: answers BLOCKED: no [04:39] TEAM: mailing lists BLOCKED: no [04:39] TEAM: commercialization BLOCKED: no [04:39] TEAM: bug tracker BLOCKED: no [04:39] TEAM: translations BLOCKED: no [04:39] TEAM: hwdb BLOCKED: no [04:39] TEAM: bazaar BLOCKED: no (not that I know) [04:39] TEAM: Soyuz, BLOCKED: 1.1.7 reviews (does that count as a block?) [04:39] TEAM: blueprints BLOCKED: no [04:40] 1.1.7 reviews of course, goes w/o saying IMO [04:40] TEAM: UI BLOCKED: lack of iconographers [04:40] right [04:40] TEAM: management BLOCKED: review replies, PPA TOS (statik) [04:40] mpt, what's up with brilliant? [04:40] kiko, their icon artist is on holiday, Usman's trying to find a new one [04:40] gotcha. [04:40] one thing about reviews [04:41] or a stand-in [04:41] you should be proactive about seeking a reviewer [04:41] in particular for week 3 [04:41] if you go into week 3 without a reviewer that has agreed to work with you on your branches, you're relying on luck to get your branches through [04:41] secure a reviewer for your branches early [04:41] don't let it linger for 24h in the general queue [04:42] EOT [04:42] all righty then [04:42] Thank you everyone [04:42] MEETING ENDS [04:42] thanks mpt! [04:42] mpt: thanks [04:42] best chair ever! [04:42] thanks [04:43] Remember to get on to your review replies now [04:43] even if it happens to be 2.43am where you are === mpt scowls [04:43] mpt, CORRECT [04:44] kiko: talking about reviews, can you review my 'ppa-ui' ? === ddaa goes to feed pqm [04:45]