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sbalneavEvening all02:07
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AlduskHello, I have a slight problem. I installed Axle, and now my root password is changed and I am no longer available as a sudo user04:29
BurgundaviaAldusk: what is axle?04:33
jsgotangcogreat Dapper has VERY OLD FUSE05:01
sbalneav:05:03
sbalneav:)05:03
jsgotangcosbalneav: i'm trying to build something in ec2 that requires fuse so i can do gluster05:04
jsgotangcobut it seems it wants fuse 2.6.x up05:04
jsgotangcoheh05:04
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AthanasiusI just installed edubuntu and I cannot get the thin client to boot.  I will get to the splash screen but then the progress bar doesn't move and then the screen goes blank with a blinking cursor at the top left,05:09
AthanasiusCan somebody help me out?05:11
sbalneavAthanasius: What version of Edubuntu are you using?05:12
Athanasius7.0405:13
sbalneavtake a look at the file /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default05:14
sbalneavcreate a backup of this file somewhere, and then remove the keywords "quiet" and "splash"05:14
sbalneavThat way, you'll see all the messages as it comes up, hopefully that will tell us more05:15
Athanasiusuuh, I can't find it.  I have to look05:15
sbalneavFound it?05:18
Athanasiusok, so do I just restart the thin client?05:18
Athanasiusyes, i found it05:18
sbalneavyep05:18
Athanasiusthere is still a splash screen05:19
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Athanasiusperhaps restart the dhcp server?05:20
sbalneavNo05:21
sbalneavShouldn't need to.05:21
sbalneavcan you paste the file /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default to the pastebin?05:21
sbalneav!pastebin05:21
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:21
Athanasiusok, I will try again05:22
Athanasiusactually, all it says is: DEFAULT vmlinuz ro initrd=initrd.img05:23
Athanasiusthere is nothing else05:23
sbalneavYou shouldn't have any splash then.05:24
Athanasiusis there another way to see what is being loaded?05:26
sbalneavThis the only edubuntu server you've got?05:26
Athanasiuslet me see....05:26
AthanasiusI also have KDE desktop installed as the default and the splash that is coming up is Kubuntu05:27
Athanasiusbut when I had edubuntu as default the problem was the same05:28
sbalneavPaste your /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf file to the pastebin05:31
Athanasiusthere is also a file named: vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-386  - does that mean that I should be booting into the 2.6.20-15 kernel instead of the 20-16 that I am currently using?05:31
Athanasiusok05:31
sbalneavSo, this isn't a fresh install of edubuntu?05:31
Athanasiushttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29748/05:32
AthanasiusIt is still set to the default05:33
sbalneavMaybe you can tell me a little about your network? i.e. if theres another dhcp server, what the ip addresses of the edubuntu server are, what kind of internet connection you've got, etc?05:34
AthanasiusI have the two network cards that is recommended for edubuntu. eth0 goes to the router which is set for a static ip05:36
sbalneavWHat are the ip addresses of the two cards?05:37
Athanasiuseth0 is set at 192.168.1.1 as the router and 192...101 as the server.05:37
Athanasiuseth1 goes to the thin client with a default ip of 192.168.0.10105:38
Athanasiuseth1 is also static05:39
sbalneavAthanasius: well, that's within the range that the dhcp server hands out addresses in.05:39
Athanasiusit all sounds right to me as well05:39
sbalneavbest to make it either .1 or .25405:39
Athanasiuseth1 as 192.168.0.1 ?05:40
sbalneavPersonally, I prefer to make it .254 myself, but .1 is fine.05:40
Athanasiuswhat is the difference?05:41
sbalneavNothing, only usually debian/ubuntu defaults assume .1 is a router, so I usually try to avoid putting a server on .105:42
sbalneavbut it's purely a matter of taste.05:42
sbalneavBut the point is, the dhcp server will hand out addresses between .20 and .25005:42
sbalneavso you'll want to make sure the static IP address isn't within that range.05:43
Athanasiusi see05:43
sbalneavSo, change the IP address of the static eth1, then try restarting your dhcpd server with invoke-rc.d dhcp3-server restart05:43
Athanasiusok, I will try it05:45
Athanasiuswhat should the broadcast ip be if I change it to 192.168.0.254?05:46
sbalneav192.168.0.25505:47
sbalneavsame as before05:47
Athanasiusok05:47
Athanasiushow about default gateway?05:48
sbalneavDon't need one.  Your thin clients only talk to the server, not to the outside world.05:48
Athanasiusok05:49
Athanasiusi will see how it boots now05:51
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Athanasiusagain, just a splash screen then nothing05:52
Athanasiuscan I also use: sudo /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server restart ?05:53
sbalneavWhat files have you got in the /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg dir?05:53
sbalneavjust the default?05:53
sbalneavor did you copy the backup there too?05:53
sbalneavthe way you restarted it is fine as well.05:53
Athanasiusthe backups are there with the default file05:54
sbalneavheh05:54
sbalneavok, move the backup out of there, JUST have the default file.05:54
Athanasiusok05:54
Athanasiusdone05:55
sbalneavrestart the TC05:56
Athanasiusok05:57
Athanasiusno dice... I will look for something here for a minute05:58
AthanasiusI am trying something06:02
Athanasiussbalneav - actually it seems to be hanging up with a USB issue, the keyboard is USB06:04
sbalneavTry a ps/2 keyboard then06:05
Athanasiusi am06:05
Athanasiusit doesn't like the usb mouse either06:06
Athanasiusnow it is hanging up on the eth0 card.  It is not booting from that card (it is not bootable) but from eth106:08
Athanasiusmaybe I can turn the card off from the bios06:09
Athanasiusdisabling the lan06:11
Athanasiusok, now I see the ubuntu login on the thin client06:13
Athanasiushow do I add users?  Is it just like adding one on the desktop or is there a different way?06:13
sbalneavJust add them like you normally would06:18
AthanasiusI cannot logon to another user in the thin client, I can log on myself, is there a certain user group that the new account has to be a memeber of?06:23
sbalneavNope06:25
sbalneavIf they want to be able to use localdevs, they'll nned to belong to fuse, but other than that, no.06:25
sbalneavCan this other user log in on the console?06:25
Athanasiusok, well you have helped me immensly06:25
Athanasiusthank you very much06:26
sbalneavNo problem.06:26
kgoetzapart from .edu.au and .gov.au, can anyone think of some sure-to-be-safe TLD's that [c,sh] ould be whitelisted in dans?06:26
sbalneavheh06:28
sbalneavDunno much about DG.06:28
kgoetzok.06:45
kgoetzany thoughts on apps/suits to install on a computer for a 5 year old?06:45
kgoetzwould there be stuff on the wiki?06:45
sbalneavStuff that comes with edubuntu's pretty good.06:46
sbalneavgCompris is great for little kids06:46
kgoetzits a work ubuntu computer, so i dont want to edubuntu it, but i could probably pull some stuff out of the meta package06:46
kgoetzthanks for the ideas :)06:46
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multikgood morning everyone :)07:35
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multikgood morning ogra :)08:44
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pips1good morning09:27
kgoetzhi09:28
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multikogra: you in here mate?10:08
multikguys, I still can't get that thin client to open TFTP session from edubuntu server10:14
multik:) any help will be greatly appreciated :)10:14
RichEdmultik: ogra is on a dev sprint in london ... you can also ask in #ltsp10:21
RichEdmultik: ogra is on a dev sprint in london ... you can also ask in #ltspaway10:23
RichEdsorry ...10:23
multikno worries. I can wait :)11:06
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pips1hi meduxa11:55
meduxahi11:56
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RichEdping pips112:20
RichEddid you get my /msg ... my adsl is up and down today ... not sure if I was getting through to you12:20
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JonNoobHELP- I am installing edubuntu on my school and having problems with NFS. I use both 100mb and Gigabit equipment. This is a problem because of the packets sizes. I need to change NFS to use tcp instead of udp. How do i do it???01:44
Kamping_Kaiseryou need to provide some more details - whats using gigabit? whats 100mb? what version of ubuntu?01:46
Kamping_Kaiseretc01:46
JonNoobEdubuntu feisty. Servers NIC is gigabit, first switch is gigabit, second switch is 100 mb, client is 100 mb01:47
JonNoobI found a fix for it here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntultsp/troubleshooting. but the directory /etc/mkinitramfs/ does not exits.01:49
Kamping_Kaiserjust looking01:51
JonNoobthanks01:52
Kamping_KaiserJonNoob, sure your looking in yoru chroot?01:54
Kamping_Kaiser` ls /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/mkinitramfs/` return anything?01:55
JonNoobpretty sure01:55
JonNoobchecking01:55
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JonNoobit is not returning anything01:56
Kamping_Kaiserhm.01:56
JonNoobi use i38601:56
JonNoobbut the server is amd6401:56
JonNoobi created the i386 with ltsp-build-client --arch=i38601:57
Kamping_Kaiserthat looks correct.01:57
JonNoobthe client can boot... sometimes...01:57
Kamping_Kaiserits possable the directory no longer exists in feisty, in which casei cant help. dapper is my only real ,ltsp experiance01:57
JonNoobok... to bad :-(01:57
JonNoobThanks anyway01:58
Kamping_Kaiserhang around, someone may be able to help01:58
Kamping_Kaisergl01:58
JonNoobgotta go... But will return another day...01:59
RichEdKamping_Kaiser: next time ask him to post to the mail list if he has to duck out02:27
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Kamping_KaiserRichEd, ok02:46
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sbalneavMorning all04:20
jsgotangcohi04:20
Kamping_Kaiserhi04:21
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Belutzhi all07:39
Belutzwhere can i get the theme from www.edubuntu.org for our website at www.edubuntu.or.id ?07:40
stgraberBelutz: I don't know where you can get this one but it'll be changed very soon by a new one based on the ubuntu.com/canonical.com one07:50
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Belutzstgraber, ah i see, is it possible that they share the theme?07:51
stgraberYou can find the one used by ubuntu.com somewhere on the wiki IIRC or maybe in a bzr branch, then it'll just be some color change07:52
Belutzstgraber, ok, thanks for the info :)07:52
stgraberI can't find where I downloaded the theme from (for isotesting.stgraber.org), but you may want to ping Matthew Nuzum (newz2000 on freenode), he's the one in charge of both ubuntu.com and canonical.com development08:01
Belutzstgraber, thanks :)08:03
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srimaljhi all09:43
srimaljedubunutu is really cool09:43
srimalja couple of us at Sri Lanka09:43
srimaljare interesting in localising it into the Sinhala Language09:43
srimaljany clues on how we should get started?09:44
srimaljdoes edubuntu have any tools for localisation?09:44
srimaljthanks09:44
sbalneavsrimalj: Yes!09:49
sbalneavLaunchpad has translation tools09:49
sbalneavWhat's the language code for Sinhala?09:50
sbalneavIs Sinhala Sinhalese?  If so, it's already been begun:09:52
sbalneavhttps://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+lang/si09:52
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bobbob1016I'm thinking of selling a few PC's at a garage sale, and I was thinking of edubuntu (I run ubuntu on my main machine and laptop), does it have parental controls built in or anything?10:35
sbalneavNot by default, but you can install something like dans guardian.10:38
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