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[02:07] <sbalneav> Evening all
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[04:29] <Aldusk> Hello, I have a slight problem. I installed Axle, and now my root password is changed and I am no longer available as a sudo user
[04:33] <Burgundavia> Aldusk: what is axle?
[05:01] <jsgotangco> great Dapper has VERY OLD FUSE
[05:03] <sbalneav> :
[05:03] <sbalneav> :)
[05:04] <jsgotangco> sbalneav: i'm trying to build something in ec2 that requires fuse so i can do gluster
[05:04] <jsgotangco> but it seems it wants fuse 2.6.x up
[05:04] <jsgotangco> heh
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[05:09] <Athanasius> I just installed edubuntu and I cannot get the thin client to boot.  I will get to the splash screen but then the progress bar doesn't move and then the screen goes blank with a blinking cursor at the top left,
[05:11] <Athanasius> Can somebody help me out?
[05:12] <sbalneav> Athanasius: What version of Edubuntu are you using?
[05:13] <Athanasius> 7.04
[05:14] <sbalneav> take a look at the file /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default
[05:14] <sbalneav> create a backup of this file somewhere, and then remove the keywords "quiet" and "splash"
[05:15] <sbalneav> That way, you'll see all the messages as it comes up, hopefully that will tell us more
[05:15] <Athanasius> uuh, I can't find it.  I have to look
[05:18] <sbalneav> Found it?
[05:18] <Athanasius> ok, so do I just restart the thin client?
[05:18] <Athanasius> yes, i found it
[05:18] <sbalneav> yep
[05:19] <Athanasius> there is still a splash screen
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[05:20] <Athanasius> perhaps restart the dhcp server?
[05:21] <sbalneav> No
[05:21] <sbalneav> Shouldn't need to.
[05:21] <sbalneav> can you paste the file /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default to the pastebin?
[05:21] <sbalneav> !pastebin
[05:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:22] <Athanasius> ok, I will try again
[05:23] <Athanasius> actually, all it says is: DEFAULT vmlinuz ro initrd=initrd.img
[05:23] <Athanasius> there is nothing else
[05:24] <sbalneav> You shouldn't have any splash then.
[05:26] <Athanasius> is there another way to see what is being loaded?
[05:26] <sbalneav> This the only edubuntu server you've got?
[05:26] <Athanasius> let me see....
[05:27] <Athanasius> I also have KDE desktop installed as the default and the splash that is coming up is Kubuntu
[05:28] <Athanasius> but when I had edubuntu as default the problem was the same
[05:31] <sbalneav> Paste your /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf file to the pastebin
[05:31] <Athanasius> there is also a file named: vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-386  - does that mean that I should be booting into the 2.6.20-15 kernel instead of the 20-16 that I am currently using?
[05:31] <Athanasius> ok
[05:31] <sbalneav> So, this isn't a fresh install of edubuntu?
[05:32] <Athanasius> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29748/
[05:33] <Athanasius> It is still set to the default
[05:34] <sbalneav> Maybe you can tell me a little about your network? i.e. if theres another dhcp server, what the ip addresses of the edubuntu server are, what kind of internet connection you've got, etc?
[05:36] <Athanasius> I have the two network cards that is recommended for edubuntu. eth0 goes to the router which is set for a static ip
[05:37] <sbalneav> WHat are the ip addresses of the two cards?
[05:37] <Athanasius> eth0 is set at 192.168.1.1 as the router and 192...101 as the server.
[05:38] <Athanasius> eth1 goes to the thin client with a default ip of 192.168.0.101
[05:39] <Athanasius> eth1 is also static
[05:39] <sbalneav> Athanasius: well, that's within the range that the dhcp server hands out addresses in.
[05:39] <Athanasius> it all sounds right to me as well
[05:39] <sbalneav> best to make it either .1 or .254
[05:40] <Athanasius> eth1 as 192.168.0.1 ?
[05:40] <sbalneav> Personally, I prefer to make it .254 myself, but .1 is fine.
[05:41] <Athanasius> what is the difference?
[05:42] <sbalneav> Nothing, only usually debian/ubuntu defaults assume .1 is a router, so I usually try to avoid putting a server on .1
[05:42] <sbalneav> but it's purely a matter of taste.
[05:42] <sbalneav> But the point is, the dhcp server will hand out addresses between .20 and .250
[05:43] <sbalneav> so you'll want to make sure the static IP address isn't within that range.
[05:43] <Athanasius> i see
[05:43] <sbalneav> So, change the IP address of the static eth1, then try restarting your dhcpd server with invoke-rc.d dhcp3-server restart
[05:45] <Athanasius> ok, I will try it
[05:46] <Athanasius> what should the broadcast ip be if I change it to 192.168.0.254?
[05:47] <sbalneav> 192.168.0.255
[05:47] <sbalneav> same as before
[05:47] <Athanasius> ok
[05:48] <Athanasius> how about default gateway?
[05:48] <sbalneav> Don't need one.  Your thin clients only talk to the server, not to the outside world.
[05:49] <Athanasius> ok
[05:51] <Athanasius> i will see how it boots now
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[05:52] <Athanasius> again, just a splash screen then nothing
[05:53] <Athanasius> can I also use: sudo /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server restart ?
[05:53] <sbalneav> What files have you got in the /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg dir?
[05:53] <sbalneav> just the default?
[05:53] <sbalneav> or did you copy the backup there too?
[05:53] <sbalneav> the way you restarted it is fine as well.
[05:54] <Athanasius> the backups are there with the default file
[05:54] <sbalneav> heh
[05:54] <sbalneav> ok, move the backup out of there, JUST have the default file.
[05:54] <Athanasius> ok
[05:55] <Athanasius> done
[05:56] <sbalneav> restart the TC
[05:57] <Athanasius> ok
[05:58] <Athanasius> no dice... I will look for something here for a minute
[06:02] <Athanasius> I am trying something
[06:04] <Athanasius> sbalneav - actually it seems to be hanging up with a USB issue, the keyboard is USB
[06:05] <sbalneav> Try a ps/2 keyboard then
[06:05] <Athanasius> i am
[06:06] <Athanasius> it doesn't like the usb mouse either
[06:08] <Athanasius> now it is hanging up on the eth0 card.  It is not booting from that card (it is not bootable) but from eth1
[06:09] <Athanasius> maybe I can turn the card off from the bios
[06:11] <Athanasius> disabling the lan
[06:13] <Athanasius> ok, now I see the ubuntu login on the thin client
[06:13] <Athanasius> how do I add users?  Is it just like adding one on the desktop or is there a different way?
[06:18] <sbalneav> Just add them like you normally would
[06:23] <Athanasius> I cannot logon to another user in the thin client, I can log on myself, is there a certain user group that the new account has to be a memeber of?
[06:25] <sbalneav> Nope
[06:25] <sbalneav> If they want to be able to use localdevs, they'll nned to belong to fuse, but other than that, no.
[06:25] <sbalneav> Can this other user log in on the console?
[06:25] <Athanasius> ok, well you have helped me immensly
[06:26] <Athanasius> thank you very much
[06:26] <sbalneav> No problem.
[06:26] <kgoetz> apart from .edu.au and .gov.au, can anyone think of some sure-to-be-safe TLD's that [c,sh] ould be whitelisted in dans?
[06:28] <sbalneav> heh
[06:28] <sbalneav> Dunno much about DG.
[06:45] <kgoetz> ok.
[06:45] <kgoetz> any thoughts on apps/suits to install on a computer for a 5 year old?
[06:45] <kgoetz> would there be stuff on the wiki?
[06:46] <sbalneav> Stuff that comes with edubuntu's pretty good.
[06:46] <sbalneav> gCompris is great for little kids
[06:46] <kgoetz> its a work ubuntu computer, so i dont want to edubuntu it, but i could probably pull some stuff out of the meta package
[06:46] <kgoetz> thanks for the ideas :)
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[07:35] <multik> good morning everyone :)
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[08:44] <multik> good morning ogra :)
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[09:27] <pips1> good morning
[09:28] <kgoetz> hi
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[10:08] <multik> ogra: you in here mate?
[10:14] <multik> guys, I still can't get that thin client to open TFTP session from edubuntu server
[10:14] <multik> :) any help will be greatly appreciated :)
[10:21] <RichEd> multik: ogra is on a dev sprint in london ... you can also ask in #ltsp
[10:23] <RichEd> multik: ogra is on a dev sprint in london ... you can also ask in #ltspaway
[10:23] <RichEd> sorry ...
[11:06] <multik> no worries. I can wait :)
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[11:55] <pips1> hi meduxa
[11:56] <meduxa> hi
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[12:20] <RichEd> ping pips1
[12:20] <RichEd> did you get my /msg ... my adsl is up and down today ... not sure if I was getting through to you
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[01:44] <JonNoob> HELP- I am installing edubuntu on my school and having problems with NFS. I use both 100mb and Gigabit equipment. This is a problem because of the packets sizes. I need to change NFS to use tcp instead of udp. How do i do it???
[01:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> you need to provide some more details - whats using gigabit? whats 100mb? what version of ubuntu?
[01:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> etc
[01:47] <JonNoob> Edubuntu feisty. Servers NIC is gigabit, first switch is gigabit, second switch is 100 mb, client is 100 mb
[01:49] <JonNoob> I found a fix for it here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntultsp/troubleshooting. but the directory /etc/mkinitramfs/ does not exits.
[01:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> just looking
[01:52] <JonNoob> thanks
[01:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> JonNoob, sure your looking in yoru chroot?
[01:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> ` ls /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/mkinitramfs/` return anything?
[01:55] <JonNoob> pretty sure
[01:55] <JonNoob> checking
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[01:56] <JonNoob> it is not returning anything
[01:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm.
[01:56] <JonNoob> i use i386
[01:56] <JonNoob> but the server is amd64
[01:57] <JonNoob> i created the i386 with ltsp-build-client --arch=i386
[01:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> that looks correct.
[01:57] <JonNoob> the client can boot... sometimes...
[01:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> its possable the directory no longer exists in feisty, in which casei cant help. dapper is my only real ,ltsp experiance
[01:57] <JonNoob> ok... to bad :-(
[01:58] <JonNoob> Thanks anyway
[01:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> hang around, someone may be able to help
[01:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> gl
[01:59] <JonNoob> gotta go... But will return another day...
[02:27] <RichEd> Kamping_Kaiser: next time ask him to post to the mail list if he has to duck out
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[02:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> RichEd, ok
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[04:20] <sbalneav> Morning all
[04:20] <jsgotangco> hi
[04:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
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[07:39] <Belutz> hi all
[07:40] <Belutz> where can i get the theme from www.edubuntu.org for our website at www.edubuntu.or.id ?
[07:50] <stgraber> Belutz: I don't know where you can get this one but it'll be changed very soon by a new one based on the ubuntu.com/canonical.com one
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[07:51] <Belutz> stgraber, ah i see, is it possible that they share the theme?
[07:52] <stgraber> You can find the one used by ubuntu.com somewhere on the wiki IIRC or maybe in a bzr branch, then it'll just be some color change
[07:52] <Belutz> stgraber, ok, thanks for the info :)
[08:01] <stgraber> I can't find where I downloaded the theme from (for isotesting.stgraber.org), but you may want to ping Matthew Nuzum (newz2000 on freenode), he's the one in charge of both ubuntu.com and canonical.com development
[08:03] <Belutz> stgraber, thanks :)
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[09:43] <srimalj> hi all
[09:43] <srimalj> edubunutu is really cool
[09:43] <srimalj> a couple of us at Sri Lanka
[09:43] <srimalj> are interesting in localising it into the Sinhala Language
[09:44] <srimalj> any clues on how we should get started?
[09:44] <srimalj> does edubuntu have any tools for localisation?
[09:44] <srimalj> thanks
[09:49] <sbalneav> srimalj: Yes!
[09:49] <sbalneav> Launchpad has translation tools
[09:50] <sbalneav> What's the language code for Sinhala?
[09:52] <sbalneav> Is Sinhala Sinhalese?  If so, it's already been begun:
[09:52] <sbalneav> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+lang/si
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[10:35] <bobbob1016> I'm thinking of selling a few PC's at a garage sale, and I was thinking of edubuntu (I run ubuntu on my main machine and laptop), does it have parental controls built in or anything?
[10:38] <sbalneav> Not by default, but you can install something like dans guardian.
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