[12:26] Well that'll have to be fixed then. We want them KDE3/4 to both be installable. === jjesse [n=jjesse@ip-66-80-88-195.iad.megapath.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apacheLAGger [n=me@N807P016.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:54] evening [02:04] hey jjesse [02:04] hello ryanakca === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@124.64.105.7] has joined #kubuntu-devel === IanC26 [n=IanC26@2002:908b:a567:4:216:6fff:fe39:ff6e] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@ip-66-80-88-195.iad.megapath.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:12] i'm sooo bored === maniacmusician_ [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-004.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-50-126.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:58] me too === nosrednaekim [n=michael@01-041.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:07] ok, not to be a nag or anything. but are there package for KDE4 alpha two yet? [04:11] !info kde4base gutsy [04:11] kde4base: core applications for KDE 4 testing. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.80.3-0ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 61924 kB, installed size 178776 kB [04:11] hrmm, they haven't been fully built out yet, but they are there [04:11] 3.91.0-0ubuntu1 are the alpha 2 packages [04:12] I just deleted my kde4 package from my server [04:12] on purpose? [04:13] only kde4artwork is in NEW. [04:13] yup [04:14] crimsun: the rest should be updates [04:14] the others are available [04:14] so they are on the mirrors, but not officially released? [04:14] 3.80.3 is KDE 4 Alpha 1 [04:14] nosrednaekim: correct [04:14] Riddell is working on them [04:14] ok, great. [04:14] so its in the same KDe4 mirror? [04:15] *repository [04:16] the KDE4 packages are/will be in the Ubuntu Universe repositories [04:16] for Gutsy [04:16] just the libraries or actual kde4? [04:17] I mean in fiesty. [04:17] actual KDE 4 [04:17] but kde3 will still be default [04:17] ? [04:17] you will have to wait a long time for that one..would be quicker to anon svn checkout the branches and build it locally [04:17] jjesse: yes, for 2 more releases [04:17] ah.. ok [04:17] Gutsy and Gutsy+1 will be KDE 3.5.x [04:17] oooo tigers winning :) [04:18] now the indians just have to loose [04:18] nosrednaekim: actually, it would be best to check with Riddell when he is around [04:18] nixternal: AND gutsy+1? wow... [04:18] he could very well be working on them now and I just don't know about it [04:18] Gutsy+1 == next LTS [04:19] that doesn't mean we aren't going to have KDE 4 images though [04:19] right.... and they can't have anything the least bit unstable in that. [04:19] we will have the main LTS support images, and more than likely a KDE 4 image as well [04:19] nixternal: are you going to uds boston? [04:19] jjesse: I put in for my off time, so as of right now, very likely [04:19] me as well [04:20] but, the tough thing is...it falls right before my thesis is due, and right before finals [04:20] ouch [04:20] so if anything, I just might fly up with a buddy for a day or two and fly back [04:20] make it for the doc day :) [04:20] he has his own personal jet :) [04:20] wow [04:20] well, he flies it for people [04:20] hehe [04:21] rich is big time. [04:21] so actually, I have my own personal jet [04:21] hey, I see here on the Kubuntu future ideas an idea for making a grub recoverer. [04:21] anyone working on that? [04:21] would you like to start :) [04:21] www.kde-apps.org [04:21] there is already a Grub GUI [04:22] yeah.i'm looking around for a little project. [04:23] nosrednaekim: that would be a good project to work on...at least make it easier for a new user if the trouble ever arises [04:24] ever? haha, i'd make it just to spare myself the trouble of helping people do it every day. [04:24] hehe [04:25] those are the same people who just started using LInux and the first thing they want to do is change their splash :) [04:25] or load windows again. [04:25] ;) [04:25] I think new users need to learn the hard way...I think a majority of us did. [04:26] rm -rf / ? yeah.... that was SOOOO hard. [04:26] like right now, I am in sitting in ASP.NET class trying to stay awake...this teacher is killing me [04:26] actually never did that. [04:26] WINDOWS! YA! [04:26] rm -rf will at least allow you to boot on most systems [04:26] it is the deadly * * that will hurt you [04:26] can you do most of your stuff in mono? [04:26] if you stop it soon enough [04:26] jjesse: mono is absolutely horrible [04:26] I don't see a grub gui on kde-apps [04:27] I have tried, and the simple answer is, not quiet yet [04:27] nosrednaekim: it is there somehwere, it has received high ratings as well [04:27] it is recent, like in the past month and has been updated with new features a few times [04:28] hmm.. any clue at all to the name? [04:28] grubalicious [04:28] haha, no I can't remember [04:28] mmmm [04:28] just search grub [04:29] err, just search for grub [04:29] I did.... nothing good. [04:29] ayeayaye! US education providers are the worst I have ever seen [04:30] eh, I resemble that comment! [04:30] http://www.qt-apps.org/content/show.php/QGRUBEditor?content=60391&PHPSESSID=f24de8d23df6517b95f876a20e83126c [04:30] crimsun: well it is true [04:31] in many instances but certainly not all. I don't suck _that_ bad. [04:31] I am sure however you don't fall into that opinion :) [04:31] hahaha, that bad? [04:31] ah.... thanks. [04:31] man your students told me all about you :) [04:31] heh [04:32] I will say, the Linux/UNIX, C/C++, and Java instructors at this campus are actually pretty good [04:32] where do you go? [04:32] College of Dummies just outside of Chicago [04:33] but University of Maryland was just as bad in the 90s [04:33] my dad went there... albeit in the 70's [04:33] Northwestern is a good school, well at least the Kellogg Business school is [04:33] Maryland? [04:33] yeah [04:33] that is where I got my BA....GO TERPS!!!! [04:34] heh, the only one in my family that went to college, and it wasn't University of Michigan === tmske_ [n=thomas@dD5763506.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:35] everyone else got to graduate as a Wolverine, the greatest college evah! [04:35] hurrah [04:36] I wish I hadn't been so hard headed and just did the Naval Academy when I had the chance..but I was so gung ho on blowing stuff up, that I started to not like officers :) [04:36] hmmph... its written in C++. [04:36] nosrednaekim: ya, seeing it is a Qt app...ya, I said kde-apps, I forgot about Qt-apps [04:36] actually, pyqt, java jambi, ruby with korundrum or whatever it is called [04:37] Qt is binding everything! FTW! [04:37] yeah, I do the pyton stuff. [04:37] never bothered to learn C++ [04:38] interestingly enough, UMD-CP is pretty good nowadays [04:38] I'm only about 15 minutes away from there [04:38] I am learning the Python now...thanks to crimsun and his little project for asoundconf I have a great understanding on just how messed up it really is :) [04:38] but it is kind of fun [04:38] what is "it"? [04:38] crimsun: that is where I was...College Park! [04:38] god that place is horrible [04:38] Python [04:38] oh [04:38] I love Python [04:38] I love C and C++, too [04:39] Python is a very nice scripting language w/o a doubt [04:39] I like it better than Perl! [04:39] hey... that was a great little app crimsun made! === nixternal waits for manchicken|away to flip out [04:40] oh this gruub editor is sweet [04:40] never date a girl that is in the same class as you...it really makes trying to learn awkward [04:40] we ought to integrate it into guidance [04:40] oh hell, it really makes trying to chat on IRC difficult [04:41] oh thanks for the colleg wisdom, i'll try to remember that [04:41] hehe [04:41] pfft. Just query her on IRC. [04:41] she is sitting next to me now [04:41] she follows me around [04:41] just dump her after the class is over [04:41] hahaha [04:41] dude, it is the first time someone has cheated off of me for a test! [04:41] haha [04:41] it makes me feel good :) [04:42] wow... she must be dumb. [04:42] the only way i passed my basic biology class is from my wife's notes === nosrednaekim hopes she saw that [04:42] the teacher is so clueless, we are both getting 28/30 on every exam and half the time we ditch the class to go out for drinks [04:42] we ere dating then [04:42] nixternal: you are SO not setting a good example ;-] [04:42] and the worst thing, she is a White Sox fan [04:42] d'oh that wrecks the whole relationship [04:42] crimsun: that is a great example [04:42] only problem with this app is it doesn't do what I originally wanted. [04:43] she is older than me, so she isn't setting a good example [04:43] wow older then nixternal? she must be really old [04:43] hah [04:43] yeah, like 98. [04:43] gahahaha [04:43] crimsun: just my speed [04:43] argh [04:43] didn't mean to say that one out loud, but... [04:44] this program can't actually reinstall the grub.... [04:44] which makes it useless for my task. [04:44] I need food bad [04:45] i need sleep bad [04:45] which means *YAY* I get to write it! [04:46] OK, it is time to go home! I gotta get out to my truck before she wants to go out...I need laptop time tonight [04:46] haha [04:47] I have to go, bye all! [04:47] these people are trying to smtp mail from one machine to another w/o having an smtp server...using the IIS crap...my lord I need a bullet and a beer [04:47] later nosrednaekim === nixternal leaves [04:47] out for drinks? [04:48] no way...I am running home === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-50-126.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === maniacmusician [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-004.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-50-126.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-90156.0x5734b54a.naenxx14.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _marseillais [n=marseill@195.200.176.77] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Longfield [n=valentin@lsa1pc7.epfl.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Stecchino [n=bart@fireext.wenk.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@124.64.105.7] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apacheLAGger is now known as apachelogger === apacheLAGger [n=me@N823P031.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:46] too many early mornings === apacheLAGger is now known as apachelogger === raphink [i=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === IanC26 [n=IanC26@2002:908b:a54a:4:216:6fff:fe39:ff6e] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:00] Riddell: heh [10:00] Riddell: live in au, then [10:00] Riddell: or somewhere like that === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:05] too many late nights? [10:07] Riddell: yeah, well. === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-252-218.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:07] yop [10:08] hi Tonio_ [10:08] Riddell, Hobbsee: is it just me or is guidance-power-manager broken since yesterday afternoon [10:08] Tonio_: define broken? [10:11] dunno, but the mouse cursor theme works from kdm now, I wonder how that fixed itself === jjesse_ [n=jjesse@ip-66-80-88-195.iad.megapath.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:13] and katapult shows up at startup too [10:13] however guidance is working fine [10:13] power manager that is [10:14] yes, i note that katapult is starting on startup now, too [10:14] Hobbsee: doesn't see the battery level [10:14] starting is fine, showing itself is a bit random [10:14] Riddell: yup noticed that too [10:14] Tonio_: probably a linux issue rather than guidance specifically [10:14] Riddell: can be a macbook specific issue [10:15] no macbooks here to test I'm afraid [10:15] oki [10:16] seems OK here, but i'll have to awit for my battery to drop [10:16] Riddell: I'll ping cjwatson, he uses a macbook pro afaik [10:17] he uses a powerpc [10:17] he's also still at breakfast [10:18] bah, breakfast. [10:18] Riddell: oki, I'll investigate this we then :) [10:23] Hobbsee: I'll publish kdelibs toonight, I may not have time today on that point [10:24] Tonio_: right. i'm awake nwo, so can look soonish [10:24] Hobbsee: well did you commit your changes ? [10:25] Tonio_: not yet :) [10:25] oki ;) === Stecchino [n=bart@fireext.wenk.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _Paleo [n=paleo@admin.kollide.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii [i=kwwii@nat/canonical/x-0dfcf0483dda9a59] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:25] nixternal: no more Biostar boards for you, then? :) === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-037-101.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === stdin [i=stdin@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #kubuntu-devel === meduxa [n=agustin@213.231.80.16.static.user.ono.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === arun [n=arun@nadeem2.my7star.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:49] Hello people [11:50] I was wondering.. would it be possible to obtain high res vector files of the standard icons that come with kubuntu? crystalsvg, if i'm not mistaken [11:51] arun: er...you'd have to contact everaldo who made the icons for that, i assume [11:51] arun: unless they're in the sources currently, which i doubt [11:52] Hobbsee: thank you [11:55] no problem [11:56] arun: no, he will not give you any vector sources, trust me [11:56] kwwii: you have asked? [11:56] arun: I used to be his boss :-) [11:57] he might do it if he thinks he can get something out of it, but otherwise not [11:58] aren't they licensed under GPL? [11:59] LGPL === Hobbsee wonders if the kde4 packages are any good to try and use, at the moment [12:01] apparently, gentoo has the SVGs of the CrystalSVG set [12:01] not just pngs [12:05] Hobbsee: good enough, although slow (presumably due to debugging) [12:05] thanks Hobbsee, kwwii, and Riddell [12:05] Riddell: right [12:05] arunkale: apt-get source kdelibs has the SVGs for the ones which we have [12:05] there's some more in kdebase [12:05] thanks === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@p508F1EB2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:09] i saw this other set called crystal clear.. they are really good as well. everaldo is clearly very gifted [12:10] yes, he is that [12:11] i dont know if this is off topic, but would one be allowed to use GPL/LGPL icons on a web site? [12:13] of course [12:14] just mention somewhere the licence and link to the author [12:14] alright [12:14] is it imperative to put up the link to the author? i'm not going to be using the icons, just curious :) [12:16] Riddell: are you jonathan riddell? [12:17] it's not imperative, but it's polite, and you would need to include the copyright notice (so a quick link will probably keep everyone happy and be less onerous) [12:17] I am [12:17] wow, very pleased to meet you [12:17] I'm even mentioned in wikipaedia I notice, I must be famous === pgquiles [n=pgquiles@62.43.226.52.static.user.ono.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:17] haha [12:18] i was just downloading inkscape through adept [12:18] and i saw your name [12:18] ScottK: worked out why kmail wasn't installing on the CDs, it needed gnupg-agent which of course needed promoted to main. done that now [12:18] moi? have I touched inkscape? [12:18] i think there was some problem with adept [12:19] or some problem with the inkscape definitions [12:19] Riddell: clearly while you were asleep [12:19] in the description, it gave the description for kaudiocreator, and you were mentioned as the author [12:19] yeah, I do packaging in my sleep :) [12:19] of inkscape [12:19] that sounds messed up [12:19] yup [12:19] i can show you a screenshot :) [12:19] sure [12:22] Riddell: is actually an imposter of the real jonathan riddell === _Paleo is now known as Paleo [12:27] Riddell: it's back to normal now [12:28] Now it lists the maintainer as 'ubuntu core developers' [12:28] quite right [12:28] damn, i shoulda taken a screenshot when i could :) [12:34] Riddell: I just ran 'apt-get source kdelibs' [12:34] where will everything get stored to? [12:39] ? === jpetso [n=jpetso@chello062178070021.24.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:02] arunkale: current directory [01:03] got it [01:04] when I try to open a password protected website it always asks for the username and login even though I select "keep password" every time...anyone know what is wrong? [01:04] nixternal: You should be ashamed for your Perl comment. [01:04] nixternal: Let the shame begin. [01:07] whee, compiz-kde working [01:08] Riddell: Do you know what's up with this weird libungif4g dependency in all of the KDE4 packages? [01:09] manchicken: should go away with the kde4libs I uploaded this morning [01:09] Sweet. [01:09] Is that still in new, or do you expect that it's in the repo already? [01:10] "Currently building" === kwwii [i=kwwii@nat/canonical/x-0dfcf0483dda9a59] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] [01:24] can everything please stop failing to compile [01:30] Riddell: Good (I'm glad you got it fixed). Sorry about that. My understanding was it was automatic once it was a depends of a Main package. Sounds like it was "automatic" from my perspective because only you had to do something. === tvo [n=tobi@katapult/developer/tvo] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo_ [n=tobi@5356A6E4.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:36] So when are we going to get apport bulit into the KDE crash handler for gutsy? [01:36] manchicken: why would we want to? [01:36] Because things keep crashing mysteriously, and apport is so sweet in how it automatically collects information and puts it on LP. [01:36] Whoops the hell out of manually posting bug reports. [01:37] but most crashes are upstream bugs, filing bugs on launchpad won't help [01:37] No? Aren't most of the bugs I've fixed in Adept this time around been upstream? [01:38] I think two out of four have been [01:38] (which in all fairness is half) [01:38] well adept is rare in that it's as much our app as any upstreams [01:38] Too true. [01:38] but the rest of KDE is 99% upstream [01:39] if we could somehow have apport for adept only that might make sense [01:39] We could modify apport to know if it's a KDE upstream program, and if it is then send the bug report to bugs.kde.org :) [01:39] I bet the KDE folks would LOVE that :) [01:39] and it might make sense if apport could report KDE crashes to bugs.kde.org [01:40] Beat you to it. === rouzic [n=rouzic@212.145.63.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:40] but really the problem of where to report bugs doesn't have an answer because only developers know what's upstream and what's us [01:42] Yeah, I have a reproducible crash in konqueror. [01:46] Do you know the g++ version that was used to compile gutsy's kdenetwork? [01:46] I'm guessing it'd be the same as gutsy itself. [01:47] But since that's version has recently changed, I suppose I will be off. [01:51] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147842 [01:51] KDE bug 147842 in general "Reproducible konqueror crash on bestbuy.com's store locator" [Crash,Unconfirmed] [01:51] There ya go. [02:05] Riddell: compiz-kde is actually testable now? neat! [02:05] Hobbsee: if you manually install compiz-plugins [02:06] Riddell: right. [02:06] as in, it doesnt kill the system, or something? [02:06] neat [02:06] doesn't seem to [02:13] Riddell: is there more plugins than that, or just them? [02:19] Riddell: i thought you said this *wasnt* supposed to kill my system === LongPointyStick is now known as Hobbsee [02:22] what happened? [02:22] Riddell: my window decorations are gone, i lost keyboard input, you cant unroll the kicker with compiz, you cant seem to move things onto other workplaces [02:22] no configuration thing [02:26] grrrr...who really needs keyboard input anyway? [02:35] ah. i forgot about the not being able to kill compiz with ctrl+c === Hobbsee is now known as LongPointyStick === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === xRaich[o] 2x [n=raichoo@i5387E79A.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@174-229-dsl.kielnet.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:22] Did 3.5.7 get officially backported to feisty, or is 3.5.6 still the default KDE for feisty? [03:23] manchicken: the default wont be changed by the backport, anyway [03:23] both? [03:23] I'm troubleshooting a kpilot problem with the folks over there and I need the versions of kpilot and pilot link that we were using in the KDE 3.5.6 on feisty. [03:23] Where might I find this information? [03:25] manchicken: Launchpad info on the package? [03:25] That's a good idea. [03:25] Except that I think those would be in kdepim === mbiebl [n=michael@e180070027.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:26] That doesn't seem to be as helpful... [03:26] Ah. [03:27] apt-cache or dpkg should be able to help. [03:27] I'm trying to find the version that is on the feisty ISO [04:02] fabo: strigi can drop the wv dependency, it has native OLE parsing now === Hobbsee seriously ponders trying kde4 [04:04] Riddell: ah, thanks. [04:05] Hobbsee: too much "alpha", i don't think it will be ready for next release ... [04:05] fabo: darn [04:06] you can use kde four live cd to see it in action [04:08] Hobbsee: the packages should install fine [04:08] hmmm [04:14] strigi 0.5.3 must be released tuesday [04:15] really? I'm using strigi from svn and it seems quite unstable [04:16] what happened to 0.5.2? [04:16] 0.5.2 was tagged but no tarballs created. === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@p508F0853.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:26] Any KDE apps that need to be packaged, or shall I just browse kde-apps? === rouzic [n=rouzic@212.145.63.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:28] kde4sdk ? [04:31] Riddell: update it? === manchicken_ [n=manchkn@74-134-231-37.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:33] ryanakca: yes [04:33] ryanakca: use debian/cdbs from kde4base [04:33] Riddell: ok [04:33] and change debian/rules to use debian/cdbs/kde.mk [04:33] as the only include [04:34] use debian/cdbs from kde4base as debian/cdbs for kde4sdk or debian/rules? [04:35] as debian/cdbs [04:35] it's a directory [04:37] ah, ok [04:38] Riddell: umm. And I presume I'm supposed to pull from SVN? [04:40] ryanakca: no [04:41] ryanakca: kde 4 alpha 2 [04:42] ah, ok, thanks [04:49] Riddell: do we still need to comment out 'add_subdirectory(kioslave)' in CMakeLists.txt, as well as 'if(HAVE_FLEXLEXER_H)' 'add_subdirectory(kbabel)' 'endif(HAVE_FLEXLEXER_H)' ? [04:51] I've no idea, try not doing so and seeing if it compiled [04:51] compiles === rbrunhuber [n=rbrunhub@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:52] ok === ryanakca just thought there was a reason for it :) [04:56] it didn't compile last time round [04:56] oh, you'll need to build-dep on quilt too [04:57] ok [04:58] standards version 3.7.2.2 this time? === Paleo [n=paleo@admin.kollide.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:25] Riddell: in build-deps, should I stick in kdepimlibs4 3.80.3 or 3.91.0 (I don't think 3.91.0 has been built yet) [05:26] 3.91.0 [05:27] kdepimlibs seems to be getting on ok https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepimlibs/3.91.0-0ubuntu4 [05:28] ah, good, I guess packages.ubuntu.com just hasn't had time to update :) [05:29] Riddell: hmm. Has James Troup talked to you at all about RT 27573 ? === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:29] ryanakca: no, what is it? [05:31] Riddell: a month and a half ago, elmo said he'd try to get groupware.kubuntu.org for the groupware server, and that he'd have to check various canonical people & you before getting the permission to create it... === manchicken_ [n=manchkn@74-134-231-37.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ryanakca hasn't heard back from him yet [05:33] oh, no idea [05:33] I'd use another domain === apachelogger [n=me@N860P010.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:34] although I'm not entirely convinced we need a groupware server === ryanakca nods [05:34] ah? === Paleo [n=paleo@admin.kollide.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:34] hmm... [05:34] should I mail kubuntu-devel see if there's still interest? [05:34] sure === Paleo [n=paleo@admin.kollide.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nosrednaekim [n=michael@02-057.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180070027.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:03] ryanakca: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/kdepimlibs/ has fixed kdepimlibs [06:03] I've uploaded that as ubuntu5 so build-dep on that before uploading kdesdk [06:04] ok [06:04] Riddell: are there kde4 aplpha2 packages yet? not to be a nag or anything. === Paleo [n=paleo@admin.kollide.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:05] Riddell: pbuilder can't seem to find kdelibs5 or kdelibs5-dev [06:05] -> Considering kdelibs5 (>= 3.91.0-0ubuntu3) [06:05] W: Unable to locate package kdelibs5 === ryanakca has tried both [06:06] oh, thats what you guys are working on :) [06:07] ryanakca: gusty with universe enabled? [06:07] nosrednaekim: yes, in gutsy [06:07] ok, great. [06:07] how about fiesty, or are you not bothering with that? [06:07] Riddell: should be, after running `pbuilder-gutsy update --override-config --othermirror "deb http://archives.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy universe"` [06:08] I don't know enough about pbuilder to confirm that [06:08] but it's definately there [06:09] ok [06:09] should it be kdelibs5 or kdelibs5-dev? === rbrunhuber [n=Miranda@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:11] kdelibs5-dev for a build-dep [06:12] ok === Paleo [n=paleo@admin.kollide.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:12] ryanakca: why arent you using a .pbuilderrc file? [06:13] Hobbsee: http://pastebin.ca/617923 , except it doesn't update with universe/multiverse/etc [06:13] Hobbsee: unless I should just rm the base .tgz and run pbuilder-gutsy create again... [06:14] ryanakca: shouldnt need to [06:14] oh okay, so you're not running an aptconfigdir [06:14]