shadowhywindi wont, i will let qtparted handle it, after i backup all the data. i will probabley just reformat it12:15
runleveltenmuch safer to back up your stuff and reinstall, to be painfully honest12:15
Whiz2_i use ntfs-3g on a daily basis with my linux server12:15
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shadowhywindthanks for all the info12:17
runleveltennp =)12:17
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runleveltenGreetings, Dark Lord :)12:18
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runleveltenhello ijul12:20
ijulhey there, I'm looking for help with ndiswrapper12:21
melkorI just stuck on a usb 2.0 hub, and anything I jook to it gets power, but my computer wont create the appropriate device.12:21
ijulcan you help me?12:21
ijulI have just plugged in a USB wifi network interface and successfully installed the windows driver with ndiswrapper, so far so good12:21
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ijulbut I must miss a step somewhere. It's plugged and detected, now what do I do to actually use it?12:22
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TeraDyneijul: "sudo ndiswrapper -m && sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" Will activate ndiswrapper. It should show up in knetworkmanager.12:23
melkorijul do you know the device name for it.12:23
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juhorner25Just a quick question to the Linux programmers12:24
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TeraDyneijul: That will have to be entered in a Konsole window12:24
juhorner25What IDE or program do you prefer for C++ or Java?12:24
juhorner25Somebody recommended Anjuta IDE, what do you think?12:24
ijulok, let me try, the first command (ndiswrapper -m) gives output: adding alias wlan0 ndiswrapper to /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper12:25
TeraDynejuhorner25: Wrong channel. That's better suited for the developer channels. #ubuntu-devel or #kubuntu-devel12:25
juhorner25Oh okay12:25
runleveltenanjuta is very good and simple for small projects12:25
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r00t_cd ui12:25
ed__i need some help.  my kubuntu 6.10 kde 3.5.5 xserver is coming up stuck in 640x480 mode.  System Settings->Monitor & Display says "Monitor & Display module could not be loaded". Possible reasons listed are that an error occurred during the last KDE upgrade leaving an "orphaned control module", or that I have an "old third party module lying around".  I didn't upgrade KDE but I had used Adept to install a few things since last reboot.12:25
runleveltenkdevelop is good, so is emacs12:25
juhorner25Thanks a lot runlevelten12:25
juhorner25Saved me a channel jump12:25
runlevelteneclipse and netbeans for java12:25
ed__anyone have any clues?12:25
runleveltennetbeans now is really coming into its own12:26
runleveltendefinitely give that a shot12:26
juhorner25Is that java exclusive?12:26
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BluesKajed__, sudo dpkg --configure -a,  in the konsole12:26
BluesKajthen relogin12:26
runleveltenwell, not "exclusive" per se, but I only use it for java12:27
juhorner25Oh okay12:27
runleveltenit's much better than most now. Really quite good12:27
mneptokjuhorner25: jEdit is in any smart Java dev's utility belt ;)12:27
ed__sweet, i will try that, thx blueskaj.12:27
juhorner25Well right now I use C++ and C#12:28
juhorner25I am taking 3 Java classes this year though12:28
runleveltenWell I use emacs which is great if you know it, and anjuta, and  kdevelop is quite good.12:28
mneptokjuhorner25: http://jedit.sf.net12:28
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runleveltenhave you tried the mono IDE?12:28
runleveltenfor C#12:28
juhorner25I'm just now making the jump to Linux and trying to bring over my programming with me12:29
juhorner25I really don't know any of the compilers or IDEs in Linux yet12:29
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juhorner25I just heard about Anjuta12:29
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runleveltenYeah I figured from the question, which is why I would say anjuta's a good start12:29
TeraDyneJEdit... The only real GUI editor I use in windows. Well, unless you count GVim.12:29
juhorner25I used Visual Studio for my C# and Dev C++ for my C++ stuff12:30
runleveltendoesn't get in the way12:30
ijul_TeraDyne: it works12:30
ijul_thank you :)12:30
runleveltenanjuta is more like devc++12:30
TeraDyneijul: No problem.12:30
ijul_I have another question, though...12:30
TeraDyneijul_: go ahead.12:30
runleveltenkdevelop isn't really like vs, but it does have more tools integrated than most IDEs12:30
juhorner25In the long run the most important thing for me is having a stable and reliable C++ compiler or IDE12:31
juhorner25Since that is what I will be doing the most12:31
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ijul_I have two graphic cards sitting on my desk: an Nvidia quadro, which is quite old, but has good results on Beryl and Kubuntu in general12:31
juhorner25I will check out the ones you guys mentioned12:31
juhorner25Thanks a lot for the suggestions12:31
runleveltenand if you use Qt, the Qt GUI designer is as good as the vs one once you're used to Qt12:31
ijul_and an ATI radeon 7200, which is fairly recent in comparison, but it runs kinda slow with beryl, and even with KDE :s12:31
runleveltenstable reliable easy to get into = anjuta12:31
runleveltennp man - good luck12:31
ijul_so I would like to make clear once and for all, which do you think is best?12:32
juhorner25But will anjuta be able to handle larger programs?12:32
ed__BluesKaj:  no joy, totally rebooted but still stuck in 640x480 with same error message12:32
juhorner25As far as some game development?12:32
TeraDyneijul_: I usually suggest the one that works best. In your situation, the Nvidia quadro.12:33
BluesKajed__, ok then try this ; sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a12:33
runleveltenwell, define handle, heh12:33
ijul_TeraDyne: ok. Thanks :)12:33
runleveltenYou won't get any massive problems, however if you want lots of integration for testing tools and stuff, kdevelop might be more up your street12:33
juhorner25lol well you did say it was for good for small projects12:34
juhorner25I'll test both of them out12:34
ed__ok, done,rebooting...12:34
juhorner25Thanks, take care every one12:35
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TeraDynerunlevelten: You said you use emacs. Is it hard to learn?12:37
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Timmmcan anyone help me with ubuntu?12:38
ed__BluesKaj:  no joy12:38
TeraDyneTimmm: Ubuntu help is in #ubuntu12:39
TeraDyneTimmm: This is for Kubuntu12:39
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Timmmah thx12:39
ed__still stuck in 640x48012:39
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runleveltenTeraDyne: not really12:40
dave__what does fiesty fawn mean? :o12:40
runleveltenyou just need a cheat sheet. Also if you're a vi fan there are vi modes for it :)12:41
TeraDynerunlevelten: Ok. I'll give it a shot, then. I use VIM, so how hard could it be?12:41
runleveltenI think it's called "viper-mode"12:41
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Impy^ahh :)12:41
TeraDynerunlevelten: Ok. Thanks.12:42
runleveltenTeraDyne: it's a nice fun editor, IDE, kitchen sink etc12:42
Impy^is kopete the best for msn?12:42
runleveltenI do have zile installed for "just plain text editing" though12:42
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runleveltenZile Is Lossy Emacs ;)12:42
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TeraDynerunlevelten: I don't need a kitchen sink. I've got one only two rooms away that works good enough. ;)12:42
ADiCT3DHey guys!12:42
dustin_i mix a whiskey drink12:43
dustin_i mix a vodka drink, and when i have to puke, i use the kitchen sink ;)12:43
ADiCT3DCan someone point me in the direction to convert mp3's to ringtones?12:43
darkcrashmerda,,ma tutti inglesi?12:43
runleveltenTeraDyne: just don't type M-x tetris if you have anything to do, heh12:43
TeraDyneTubthumper... I almost forgot that song...12:43
darkcrashitalian ?12:43
TeraDynerunlevelten: Will do.12:43
runleveltenADiCT3D: send them to your phone using bluetooth.12:43
ADiCT3Drunlevelten: No i need to convert the mp3's into amr/mxff or sumtin format12:44
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runleveltendepends on the phone. These days, try the mp3 first, heh.12:46
ADiCT3Di have and ogg and m4a and a ton others only wav works but i know amr does but wav makes MASSIVE huge files12:46
ADiCT3Dit plays mp3's and m4a's and all that but it wont work for ringtones12:46
runleveltenwow, that's harsh12:47
BluesKajADiCT3D, use soundkonvertor for mp3 conversion from wav12:47
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runleveltenwhat phone is that then?12:47
ADiCT3DBluesKaj: No, I need to convert FROM an mp3 file TO an AMR file, Nokia 613312:47
BluesKajwhy don't upu ask in the nokia chat?12:48
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bronze-IMPORTANT: Is is safe to delete all folders in home directory starting with . ? The hidden configuration folders. I'm going to install another distro, so I'm just going to shut down the PC right after I delete the folders.12:48
ADiCT3DBluesKaj: This is linux...I need help with doing it in Linux..not a phone issue haha i could install winblows and buy an app to convert but i wanna do it on nix12:49
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Chousukebronze-: should be safe, if you want to lose all your settings12:49
BluesKajmp3s are mp3s , whether they're in windows or linux12:50
ed__back for more clues... display still stuck in 640x480, System Settings -> Monitor & Display still says module Monitor & Display could not be loaded.12:50
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ChousukeBluesKaj: he doesn't want mp3s12:50
ChousukeI wonder what those AMR files are.12:50
flakecan i create another user on my box and cut down on all the services I don't need in order to make it a gaming rig, or are the services universal no matter who is logged in?12:51
ADiCT3DBluesKaj: Dude...i dont care about the input format i need to convert an mp3/wav INTO an amr file..and i need help doing so..cause i tried several things and i cant find an app that will do it12:51
ChousukeADiCT3D: do you have any amr files at hand?12:51
BluesKajed__, looks like you may need to reconfigure you xorg.conf file12:51
ADiCT3DChousuke: Only on my phone i cant send em12:51
ChousukeADiCT3D: could you move them to your computer?12:52
ed__BluesKaj, how?12:52
ChousukeSo that you could run the "file" utility on one of them12:52
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Chousuketo know what format they are12:52
ADiCT3DChousuke: Dont think so its in phones memory12:52
Chousukehmm :/12:52
ADiCT3DChousuke: http://rudd-o.com/archives/2006/09/18/convert-wav-mp3-files-to-amr-in-linux-using-gstreamer/ That wont work12:52
BluesKajADiCT3D, tha's why i suggested you goto a chat theat has something to do with the destination file..like perhaps your phone ..nokia ..get it ?12:52
ChousukeADiCT3D: how does it fail?12:53
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BluesKajed__, in the terminal : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:53
ADiCT3DChousuke: Cant find the amrnbenc cmd12:53
ed__i'll try that, thx!12:54
ChousukeADiCT3D: did tyou install gstreamer-plugins-ugly?12:54
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Impy^how do i know which version of kubuntu i'm using? :o12:55
ADiCT3DChousuke: Yes12:55
ChousukeADiCT3D: or rather, gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse12:55
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Chousukeget that one and try again12:56
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ADiCT3Dgoing to reinstall12:57
ADiCT3Di had both gstreamer .8 and .10 installed12:57
K-Ryan!version | impy^12:57
ubotuimpy^: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell12:57
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ChousukeADiCT3D: shouldn't matter.12:57
Impy^shell = konsole?12:57
tino097how to install PES 6 ? link to guide or something12:57
facugaichtino097: PES 6 works in linux?12:58
Impy^feisty :)12:58
ADiCT3DChousuke: WARNING: erroneous pipeline: no element "amrnbenc"12:58
BluesKajImpy^, yes12:58
Impy^is fiesty the latest?12:58
Impy^cheers for that btw :)12:58
ChousukeADiCT3D: hmm12:58
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K-RyanYes Impy^, it is12:58
K-RyanYou're welcome ;)12:58
Impy^ahh k cheer s:)12:58
BluesKajImpy^, offical release , yes12:58
tino097<facugaich> i think so, iread on ubuntu forums that some guys managed to install12:59
ChousukeADiCT3D: Then I don't know12:59
Goldysomeone how speak french?12:59
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:59
runlevelten_ffmpeg -i blablah.mp3  -ac 1 -f amr -acodec amr myoutputfile12:59
ADiCT3Drunlevelten_: Unknown input or output format: amr01:00
tino097<facugaich> i try with cedega but i think i have some premision isue problems with DVD rom01:00
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MidNight_SunRayhi ppl01:00
MidNight_SunRaydoes anyone know how i can force KDE to mount my portable hd always on /media/LACIE, instead of sda1 or sdb1 ???01:00
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions01:01
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MidNight_SunRayADiCT3D, ok01:02
MidNight_SunRaybut what if it's sometimes called sda1 and some other sdb1 ?01:02
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ADiCT3DMidNight_SunRay: you dont need that you need the /dev adress if it changes that just means another drive is in i do believe but can someone double check?01:03
BluesKajtino097, do you have libdvdcss2 installed ? it may help01:03
MidNight_SunRayi gues you're right ADiCT3D01:04
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MidNight_SunRayso do i just need to plug it in for first?01:04
ADiCT3DMidNight_SunRay: best way to find out is to open like gparted yes you need it plugged in but fstab should be used for drives that dont move imo01:04
ADiCT3DMidNight_SunRay: If you unplug it sometimes i'd just create a mount script01:05
MidNight_SunRayADiCT3D, which kind of script?01:05
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ADiCT3DMidNight_SunRay: a bash script dot sh file..im a noob when it comes to scripts :P01:06
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tino097<BluesKaj> i dont have that libary, where to found?01:08
runleveltenright, I must go to bed.01:08
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs01:08
runleveltenADiCT3D: there was something wrong with the command I gave you. It should work if you fix it up, no time to play with it now though01:08
runleveltensorry about that man01:09
ADiCT3Drunlevelten: i dont know how haha im searching ubuntu forums01:09
runleveltennight all01:09
BluesKajtino097, hope it helps01:09
runleveltenI'd love to help more, but there comes a time to spend time with the missus :)01:10
runleveltennight all... again, ha01:10
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Impy^aha finally got windows files showing :D01:16
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biawie komm ich zum deutschen kanal?01:18
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ed__BluesKaj:  I reconfigured xorg.conf.  Monitor & Display dialog returned, allowed 1024x768 selection, but res reverted to 640x480 on X restart...01:20
biawie  komm ich zum deutschen chat?01:20
AmyRose!de | bia01:21
ubotubia: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de01:21
biai need help in german  langues01:21
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biadanke, thanks, mercy01:21
AmyRosebia: You're welcome, but you're always welcome to try here too in English :)01:21
Impy^is there a better alternative to kopete for msn on kubuntu?01:22
AmyRoseImpy^: amsn01:22
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Impy^is that better? :)01:22
AmyRoseImpy^: Yeah, it's better than Kopete at MSN :)01:23
Impy^ahh k wicked will have a look for it now :D01:23
Impy^thanks :D01:23
AmyRoseyou're welcome, Impy^01:23
AmyRoseIt does custom smileys, voice clips, and webcams now too01:23
Impy^ahh class :)01:23
Impy^thanks :)01:23
AmyRoseYeah, I would use it more but I prefer Kopete because my friends are about evenly distributed among AIM, Yahoo, and MSN, so having a universal client is more suitable to me01:24
Impy^i love opensource fairplay :D01:24
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Impy^it's sooo brilliant :)01:24
Impy^people working together for better and free software :D01:25
BluesKajed__, now you have to go into system settings/monitor and display/ admin mode/hardware drivers and find the drivers applicablke to your card and monitor and then you should be able to change you resolution.01:25
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r00t_AHHHHH!!!!  a virus has infected my MBR can someone help me defeat this vile foe?01:27
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto01:28
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AmyRoseImpy^: Yeah, it's great :D01:28
MinatakuThat was a joke, BTW... I'm assuming you installed Windows after Kubuntu and the NTLDR chainloader is the virus XD01:28
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TeraDyneImpy^: I found a KDE based MSN client. http://www.kmess.org/01:29
sandro__is there any italian?01:29
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AmyRoseMinataku: Yeah, Windows is a virus :P01:29
r00t_Minataku: yes windows was the virus i was refering to.01:29
mneptok!it > sandro__01:29
AmyRoseTeraDyne: It doesn't do as much as amsn though.01:29
MinatakuCool :301:29
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!01:29
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AmyRoseTeraDyne: It's actually worse than Kopete01:29
TeraDyneAmyRose: It's still an alternative, though. It's best to know what choices you have. ;)01:30
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cs5Is there anyone around that can help me setup dapper to use big desktop?01:30
MarcCcs5: big desktop?01:30
MinatakuDapper is OLD :o01:30
AmyRoseTeraDyne: True...01:30
MinatakuAnd do you mean Xinerama?01:30
MinatakuTo stretch one X11 desktop across two (or more) displays?01:31
AmyRosecs5: If you want to use Kubuntu as a desktop OS, you should try Feisty instead01:31
TeraDyneMinataku: Old isn't the term I'd use. Too lenient. XD01:31
cs5i cant install or upgrade to it.01:32
MinatakuTeraDyne: Perhaps... "ass-old"01:32
TeraDyneMinataku: Better. XD01:32
MarcCdapper's still supported, right?01:32
cs5or i would be, three days of trying and multiple installs. They all freeze, and upgrading breaks my system BAD01:32
TeraDyneMarcC: Yes. I think it's 3 years of support after release date for Dapper.01:33
Impy^teradyne what's a kde based msn client?01:33
cs5ATI has me bangin my head off a wall as someone so elequently stated01:33
TeraDyneImpy^: http://www.kmess.org/01:33
MarcCcs5: tried any howtos?01:34
Impy^is that better than amsn?01:34
cs5All of them I think01:34
TeraDyneImpy^: No, but it's an option if you ever want to try it.01:34
cs5Nothing seems to go right. Maybe I am to new to this. I have been trying to deal with my video issues and upgrades at the same time.01:34
Impy^ahh k cheers i'll check it out01:35
Impy^amsn is very ugly :o01:35
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MarcCcs5, can you get it working ok with *one* monitor?01:35
r00t_see you guys ive got a virus to defeat01:35
cs5Oh yes, beautifully.01:35
cs5i just need help setting up the multiple heads01:35
cs5thats to marcc01:36
MarcCcs5: I'm afraid I can't be of much help...I use large screens instead of dual-screen right now01:37
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cs5np, ty for tryin01:37
cs5I guess i'll suffer with the virtual desktops01:37
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cs5how bout a camera issue....anyone, anyone?01:41
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cs5says my port settings may be wrong, but it is a usb that is supposed to be no config neccesary01:42
Biovoreusb (still picture) camera?01:43
cs5well still and video01:43
MarcCcs5: is this on first-use or have you tried it multiple times?01:43
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cs5no, today is the first day on linux, works well on windows01:43
cs5linux finds it but wont lock it01:43
nosrednaekimwhats the problem?01:43
Biovorecs5: is it a Mass Storage device or something custom?01:44
cs5naw, just a concord eye-q mini.Unable to initialize camera. Check your port settings and camera connectivity and try again.01:44
cs5just takes like 30 pics and some video01:44
MarcCah, one of those little guys01:45
MarcCmight want to look up the hardware ID inside (not branding) and google that with linux as part of the query01:45
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BluesKajcs5, is your camera more than 4 yrs old ?01:46
cs5mmmmm, no bout 3 though01:46
cs5Kubuntu picks it up ok like i said, but for some reason wont access it01:46
nosrednaekimcs5: did you try digiKam?01:47
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nosrednaekimsometimes that will do it when konqueror won't01:47
cs5just the kubuntu dapper digital camera interface and tried to goto it camera:\01:47
Biovorecs5: http://www.teaser.fr/~hfiguiere/linux/digicam.html01:47
BluesKajhmm...my old samsung camera smartcard couldn't be read by kubuntu or windows on this pc01:47
nosrednaekimcs5: oh... dapper.01:47
cs5lol....i know old....01:48
nosrednaekimyeah, but it should still work. Do you have digiKam installed?01:48
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cs5nosrednaekim: nope, going to get it. Is it in the repositories?01:50
nosrednaekimcs5: should be.01:50
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nosrednaekimyep, it is.01:51
nosrednaekimif you have universe enabled01:52
cs5in the teaser.fr it says i should use digikam201:52
meuhlolcs5 a propos?01:52
nosrednaekimcs5: doesn't matter.01:53
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TeraDyneHere's a slightly stupid question... Why don't the include the digikam docs by DEFAULT?01:56
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nosrednaekimyeah, I think they should include all docs by default01:56
MarcCdevelopers like to separate packages to give them a better chance at improvement01:57
MarcCSven is talking about doing that with certain parts of GIMP that are now integrated.01:57
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TeraDyneMarcC: True, but I have to go out and install the docs. They should be in the release versions of the distro by default.01:58
MarcCit's a little bit of a pain for users, but that could probably be fixed by improving the usability of e.g. synaptic01:58
SanneTeraDyne: Debian based distros mostly have very modular packages. I think it's ok, you can download only those packages you need.01:58
cs5thats ok, it isn't in my repositories that i can see01:59
TeraDyneSanne: ?01:59
TeraDyneI mean that it's a pain to go out and get what should be in the distro by default. I don't mind it, but it's a PITA to be recording something and find out that the docs to the app you're talking about aren't there,02:00
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SanneTeraDyne: yes, that's annoying. But it would be very annoying to have to get the docs with no possibility *not* to install them. They can be very large.02:01
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AmyRoseHello, Biteyni02:02
TeraDyneSanne: While true, if Kubuntu is going to be marketed to the other OS users, it needs to have the needed docs and help manuals. Otherwise, it's just going to anger those people.02:02
Biteynihi, i was wondering if you could help me02:02
AmyRose!ask | Biteyni02:02
ubotuBiteyni: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)02:02
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SanneTeraDyne: I agree, but, as always, it's a matter of priorities. Make most things easy for new users and annoy the others, or vice versa :).02:04
Biteynialright, I have tried installing ubuntu. i booted from cd and i chose the option "start ubuntu in safe graphics mode"02:04
cs5digikam sight only has repositories for edgy and feisty, does that mean im S.O.L.?02:04
Biteynithe screen stays black and doesn't load the desktop where the install icon is at02:04
TeraDyne!info digikam dapper02:04
ubotudigikam: digital photo management application for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.2~rc1-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 4077 kB, installed size 9724 kB02:05
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AmyRoseBiteyni: I'm assuming you tried the normal mode first; am I right?02:05
cs5ty teradyne02:05
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TeraDynecs5:  No problem02:05
Biteyniwell this is my first time im following this: http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu and im following the install to keep my windows partition02:06
Biteyniit told me to do "Start Ubuntu in safe graphics mode"02:06
AmyRoseBiteyni: Well, that should only be used if the "Start or Install Ubuntu" option didn't work02:07
Biteynio ok thankyou02:07
AmyRoseyou're welcome02:07
Biteyniso the regular option first02:07
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AmyRoseyeah, Biteyni, and let us know if you have any trouble with that mode :)02:07
Biteyniim new at this02:07
Biteyniso all the help i can get is good :)02:08
AmyRoseBiteyni: I understand. I remember when I was a newbie too :)02:08
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intelikeyok i'm ignorant, what is sdl ?02:08
Doug_Hey I'm a noob to Linux, tried a couple distros, but right now I'm downloading feisty fawn and was wondering where i could get tutorials and things like that on how to access the power of linux02:08
Biteynithanks amyrose! thanks for helping me.. I tried searching the net for this answer! thanks sooo much! i will go and see if it works ill be back!02:08
AmyRoseBiteyni: You're welcome02:09
intelikeyCould not initialize SDL - exiting02:09
AmyRoseintelikey: SDL is the most common library for writing games on Linuix02:09
AmyRoseintelikey: It's sort of Linux's equivalent to DirectX02:09
intelikeyso why would qemu care about that ?02:10
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AmyRoseintelikey: Because Qemu uses SDL for input, video, and audio02:10
ADiCT3DUS Supreme Court Rules No Free Speech for Students !!!!02:10
_4strODoug_: all the ubuntu websites, wiki, forum, ...02:10
Doug_ok, thanks _4strO02:11
intelikeyAmyRose then let me "assume" that qemu only works inside of X  ???02:11
AmyRoseintelikey: It stands for Simple Directmedia Layer02:11
AmyRoseintelikey: Not necessarily, if you have the svgalib support compiled in :P02:11
AmyRoseintelikey: But Ubuntu's SDL packages do not have that02:12
AmyRoseso you do need X unless you plan on recompiling SDL02:13
intelikeyright.  so like i said...02:13
AmyRoseintelikey: Sorry; I get overly technical sometimes :P02:13
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intelikeybochs also requires X ....  hmmmm02:16
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TeraDynegrr.. need "libkdcraw 0.1.1" to compile digikam 0.9.2... Anyone know if there's a package in the repos?02:17
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TeraDyneIf there is, I can't find it...02:17
AmyRoseintelikey: Bochs is also painfully slow02:17
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intelikeyTeraDyne /msg ubotu find libkdcraw02:18
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TeraDyne[19:18]  <ubotu> Package/file libkdcraw does not exist in feisty02:18
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TeraDyneI guess that's a no. Time to get to work, then.02:19
SanneTeraDyne: I can only find it for Gutsy (at packages.ubuntu.com)02:19
TeraDynethink I'd break anything if I installed it on my fiesty machine?02:19
MarcCif anything it wouldn't work because of lib versions02:20
TeraDyneWell... Worth a shot...02:21
intelikeyheh it's just a package, what can it hurt   :)))02:22
DragnslcrFamous last words02:22
TeraDyneintelikey: that's what I said last time, and I ended up having to do a complete reinstall.02:22
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BiteyniHello amy?02:23
intelikeyTeraDyne so what did it "hurt"?   hehhe02:23
SanneTeraDyne: if it wants to pull dependencies from Gutsy, I wouldn't install it.02:23
BiteyniAmyRose both options don't load the livecd desktop install thingy02:23
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intelikeyah come on upgrade to the pre-alpha-planned release02:24
TeraDyneintelikey: No. Not when I have 3D accel working for once.02:24
intelikeyBiteyni trubble with the installer ?02:24
intelikeyTeraDyne yeah i was 'josh'n'02:25
intelikeyBiteyni old or new hardware ?02:25
Biteynii tried first the option that: http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/ told me02:25
Biteyniabout 3-4 year old hardware02:25
TeraDyneII think I'll try to compile the lib from source...02:25
TeraDyneMaybe checkinstall will work with it.02:26
Biteyniim trying to keep current windows partition02:26
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Biteyniand that link told me to do the start ubunutu in graphics mode option but loads to the black screen02:27
Biteyniit loads linux kernel and then takes me to a black screen and thats it..02:27
Biteyninothing else loads02:27
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intelikeyBiteyni you should probably first boot windows and do a full scandisk and defrag   then you should be able to resize the partition02:27
intelikeyBiteyni oh wait.02:27
Biteynithe desktop where install doesnt load..02:28
intelikeyBiteyni you are not getting to the installer....   i see02:28
Biteyniyeah thats the prob02:28
intelikeymore than one vidio card ?02:29
Biteyniall i get is options of Start or install ubuntu and Start Ubuntu in safe graphics mode02:29
Biteynino just one card02:29
Biteynithis one has an intel graphics card02:29
intelikeyyou tried safe graphics mode   same thing ?02:29
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TeraDyneIT COMPILED! I have a package for it, too.02:29
SanneTeraDyne: congrats!02:29
Biteynii first tried safe graphics mode then i tried regular mode and same thing02:30
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Biteyniat one point i did get something about graphics02:30
Biteynibut i dunno what to do.02:30
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intelikeyBiteyni you can probably install from the alternet install cd.    it's got a text mode installer.      you might try configuring the x server on the live cd to make sure you can get it working02:31
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TeraDyneNow I need the new version of libkexiv2... Time to compile again.02:31
Biteyniyeah thats the error i got02:32
Biteynisomething about x server02:32
Biteyniim new to all of this so i dunnow what the x server is02:32
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Biteyniwhere is x server on load?02:32
intelikeyBiteyni yeah the x server "xorg" is the "window system" of the linux world.02:32
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TeraDyneAnyone know if it might be a wise idea to remove the libkexiv2 packages before I compile and run checkinstall for the new version?02:32
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intelikeyBiteyni how much ram is in that box ?02:33
Biteynii know but i didn't get options for that i got something about press f4 for vga and f6 for more options02:33
Biteynion that box is 25602:33
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Biteynirest of computers are fine and running ubuntu02:33
intelikeyBiteyni no there wont be "options" you'll have to enter a console and issue the command     sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:34
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ubotuThe graphical user interface (GUI) in Ubuntu is composed of many elements, including the !X server, a window manager, and a desktop environment such as !GNOME or !KDE (which themselves use the !GTK and !Qt toolkits respectively)02:34
Biteynibut it doesnt have termanal02:34
Biteynii only get to the selction of what to do first02:34
Biteynithat screen when you first boot from cd02:35
Biteyniand you chose what option to do02:35
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Biteyniand thats it02:35
Biteynii dont ever get to that desktop or the install link or anything02:35
intelikeyyes it does.      after it boots up  and the screen goes blank.   hit [alt] +[ctrl] +[f2] 02:35
cs5anyone know why dapper and feisty are the only two downloads on the first ubuntu downloads page, what about edgy?02:35
Biteynialright ill try that02:36
intelikeyBiteyni i can't promice that you'll see it but there is a console there02:36
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Biteyniand when i configure the xserver what is it that i have to configure?02:36
Biteynior i'll know when i see it?02:36
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intelikeyif you can access a console,  issue   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg     and answer the questions it asks02:37
drowningAndGradeis byteyni installing a new graphics card?02:37
Biteynino trying to install ubuntu02:38
intelikeydrowningAndGrade no a new linux02:38
Biteynibrb then02:38
Sannecs5: I guess because feisty is current, and dapper is LTS.02:38
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intelikeydrowningAndGrade its the ole liveCD boots to a blank screen    issue.02:38
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drowningAndGradei know i have no idea when that heppened to me when i tried to install one base02:39
TeraDyneYou know, I now have more respect for the packagers than ever before. This is torture, trying to find the needed dependencies.02:39
drowningAndGradei feel that when you use adept, tha packages get installed well02:40
sergiusz_just installed kubuntu - anyone knows how to make the use of "flag" keys?02:40
intelikeyTeraDyne that's why so many distros "base on..."  rather than actually building a distro02:40
TeraDynedrowningAndGrade: I'm trying to compile a newer version of digiKam, and the dependencies are only in gutsy. I'm using Fiesty.02:41
intelikeysergiusz_ khotkeys02:41
TeraDyneintelikey: I can see why...02:41
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intelikeyit's also one reason i still like the idea of static/stand-alone apps02:42
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TeraDyneintelikey: Like the ones they use for Klik?02:42
intelikeyi'm not familear with klik02:43
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sergiusz_thx & cu02:43
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drowningAndGradeif you rob people your breaking the bible02:43
TeraDyneintelikey: http://klik.atekon.de/02:43
TeraDynedrowningAndGrade: What?02:44
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drowningAndGradeim sorry nothng, i got paranoid of master evil;02:45
Dragnslcr!info khotkeys02:45
ubotuPackage khotkeys does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas02:45
TeraDyne!info khotkeys edgy02:45
ubotuPackage khotkeys does not exist in edgy02:45
intelikey!find khotkeys02:46
ubotuFile khotkeys found in kde4base, kde4base-data, kdebase-bin, kdebase-dbg, python-poker2d02:46
drowningAndGradeis there a file that governs the keyboard input in the konsole?02:46
drowningAndGradeis there just one?02:46
DragnslcrHm, interesting02:46
DragnslcrI wonder if khotkeys is any better than keytouch02:47
intelikeydrowningAndGrade you might be able to adjust konsole input within konsole's menu  not sure.02:47
draikDoes Photoshop CS2 work on Wine?02:47
intelikeyDragnslcr you have kde installed ?02:47
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drowningAndGradehave you tried krita draik?02:48
BluesKajwhat about Gimp ?02:48
ubotugimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.02:48
drowningAndGradethe gimp is pretty too02:48
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TeraDynedraik: I've heard of the older ones working, but nothing on CS2. Idn't there a list of what works and doesn't work in wine?02:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ps2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:48
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.02:49
draikI ask because there is an icon for Tux Photoshop CS02:49
BaziI've run CS2 in wine02:49
drowningAndGradehow do i find my portable hard drive enclosure?02:50
Dragnslcrintelikey- 3.5.7, yeah02:50
drowningAndGradei want to put some3d levels on the internet before i apply anywhere and i cant find my usb portable hard drive any where in kubuntu02:51
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intelikeyDragnslcr and konsole command  khotkeys   does what there ?02:51
Dragnslcrintelikey- I dunno, haven't tried it. I've been using keytouch, and it works well enough for me02:52
mneptokdraik: do you need CMYK and separations?02:52
drowningAndGradedoesnt krita do cmyk?02:52
DragnslcrWas just wondering aloud if khotkeys was any different/better02:52
draikBazi: How? I usually get a crash02:53
draikIf it even loads at all02:53
draikmneptok: I just want something to edit pictures as I did with PS CS202:53
SloikSpeaking of Hard Drive enclosures, are there specific kinds I should look for to maximize compatibility with Linux?02:53
mneptokdraik: Krita or GIMP02:53
draikGIMP and I didn't get along very well02:54
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Bazidraik: It's been awhile since I last did it02:54
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BaziI ended up just moving to gimp or using my desktop for CS02:54
mneptokdraik: only bxecause you want it to wear a Photoshop costume. women don't like it when you ask them to wear a full-head latex mask of your on the first date. ;)02:54
mneptok*of your ex02:55
draikThey don't like latex? Well that explains so much... Sorry. If anyone's offended, my apologies.02:55
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drowningAndGradewhats jlldo mean?02:56
drowningAndGradeexcuse me02:56
mneptokdraik: spend some time with the GIMP and try to approach it with a clear set of expectations.02:56
TeraDyneDependencies... getto daze! Now to compile Digikam 0.9.202:56
phoenixzI want to umount a directory, but umount says the directory is busy.. lsof | grep dirname shows me nothing though.. How can I see who / what is keeping that dir busy?02:56
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draikBazi: Where do I find CS2 with WINE?02:58
mneptokphoenixz: lsof +D /path/to/mount02:58
drowningAndGradephoenix,can you do it with the jobs command?02:58
phoenixzmneptok, thanks!02:58
Bazidraik: What do you mean?02:58
draikBazi: When you used WINE, how did you access CS2?02:59
drowningAndGradei cant find my usb portable hard drive anywhere02:59
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SloikdrowningAndGrade: What is the HD formatted in?02:59
drowningAndGradeits a windows format02:59
drowningAndGradethe ntfs i think02:59
drowningAndGradeif thats it02:59
SloikdrowningAndGrade: OK, if it's in NTFS you may have to get an NTFS configuration tool. Try searching Adept. K Menu> Add/Remove Software.03:00
sinequanon777Hello Everybody!!!!!03:00
BaziI forget how exactly I had it set up03:00
drowningAndGradewhats that tool called?03:00
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse03:00
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SloikI've got one and it was just called "NTFS Configuration Tool".03:00
K-Ryanntfs-3g or fuse03:00
drowningAndGradethank you03:00
Sloikntfs-3g was a dependency.03:00
SloikTry searching Adept for NTFS and see what you find.03:01
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LidoI upgraded to Feisty and now my USB mouse is all wonky.  I lose mouse control when A) I come out of suspend and B) I disconnect my USB hard drive (sometimes)03:01
Lidounplugging the mouse and plugging it back in fixes it.03:01
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Lidountil the next time03:01
SloikDoes anybody know a good Video Editor for Linux?03:02
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SloikI use Adobe Premiere now.03:02
Lidohelp, please?03:03
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BaziSloik: http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php03:03
klobsterwhat is the hotkey combonation to pull up the current process list?03:03
SloikBazi: Thanks.03:03
Bazino prob03:03
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Sloikklobster: Ctrl+Esc.03:04
SloikAny time.03:04
intelikeywhat do you do to remove the listing for a package that isn't installed ?03:04
klobsterI kept doing the windows equivalent, Ctrl+Shift+Esc03:04
intelikeyexample: dpkg -l | cut -d' ' -f-3 | grep -v ii03:05
zipperAnyone knows when a new version of KDE is comming in the repositories?03:05
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Dragnslcr3.5.7 is available03:06
DragnslcrDunno if there'll be a 3.5.8 or if they'll just wait until 4.003:06
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zipperthought 4.0 was out, but hadn't got into the rep..03:06
DragnslcrNo, 4.0 is still in alpha03:06
LidoDid something change with udev in feisty?03:06
zipperso i dont suppose there is a release date yet?03:06
DragnslcrI think they're aiming for October for a release03:07
SloikHow come I can't get 3D acceleration with the ati display driver that came pre-installed? Apparently my video card is too old for fglrx...03:07
DragnslcrI don't think that would be soon enough for Ubuntu 7.10 though03:07
TeraDyneWhat repo is KDE 3.5.7 in?03:07
DragnslcrTeraDyne- special one that they set up03:07
intelikeyLido something changed with the kernel, they started using 'scsi emulation'03:07
klobsterkde is stable or beta?03:07
zipperSloik, i think there is a special driver for legacy cards03:07
DragnslcrTeraDyne- http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php03:08
Lidohmm...  That might explain the problems I'm seeing.. maybe.03:08
TeraDyneDragnslcr: Riddell said no Gutsy KDE4 due to it not being out in time, and no Gutsy+1 because it's a Long-Term Support release.03:08
intelikeyLido or more specificly with the initramfs.img   older kernels could be set up that way too03:08
TeraDyneDragnslcr: Thanks,03:08
Dragnslcrklobster- you mean 3.5.7?03:08
klobsteroops 4:3.5.703:08
LidoIs the scsi emulation for IDE or USB drives?03:08
DragnslcrYeah, 3.5.7 is an official release03:08
intelikeyLido ide   usb was already using it03:08
zipperSloik, i think its called fglrx-legacy, you have to download it and in stall it. Just like the normal driver i believe.03:09
DragnslcrTeraDyne- that'd kinda suck if it isn't in 8.06, even if it isn't the default03:09
Sloikzipper: Cool, thanks, I'll look for it.03:09
TeraDyneDragnslcr: Something tells me it'll be in a special repo soon after it's released03:09
Lidointelikey  what's initramfs.img?  Is that what's used to come out of suspend?03:10
DragnslcrTeraDyne- yeah, I would think so. If they did it for 3.5.7, they can obviously do it for 4.003:10
intelikeyLido  less /boot/grub/menu.lst       hit /     and type init03:11
intelikeyLido or read all about it on the web.    or   man mkinitramfs03:11
HirvinenTeraDyne: Riddell said that there wouldn't be KDE 4 even in Gutsy+1?03:11
TeraDyneHirvinen: Not by default. It's in his talk at aKademy.03:12
intelikeyHirvinen sounds right03:12
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DragnslcrI can understand the default being 3.5.x, but I would imagine they'd at least have 4.0 in the main repository03:12
intelikeywhy in main ?03:13
TeraDynehttp://akademy.kde.org/conference/programme.php < You can download the talks there. It's towards the bottom. Just use the "video icon" button.03:13
Lidointelikey All I have in my grub menu is initrd.03:13
intelikeyshould be in universe until it's stable   no?03:13
DragnslcrJust so it's easier to install, instead of users needing to add a repository03:13
HirvinenYup, would be pretty weird not providing it. Even not having it as the default sounds weird, assuming 4.0 is released this year.03:13
intelikeyLido it's an initramfs image reguardless the name03:13
DragnslcrEr, sorry. Didn't mean the 'main' repository. Meant the standard repositories03:14
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TeraDyneHirvinen: It makes more sense than you think. Gutsy+1 is a Long Term Support release. They'll want something more stable for it.03:14
DragnslcrAs opposed to 3.5.7, which is in a repository that you have to add manually03:14
intelikeyDragnslcr ah yes.03:14
Biteyniinteli couldn't setup the xserver but i did write down the errors03:15
intelikeyBiteyni ok03:15
Biteynifirst was Buffer I/O error on device sr003:15
Biteynithen was SQUASHFS error03:15
intelikeyok that's scsi error not vidio03:16
Biovoredisk failure..03:16
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intelikeythat's filesystem  on the live CD03:16
Biteyniand unable to read sb_bread03:16
intelikeyso you burned a frisby/coster03:16
Biovoreanother scsi thing..03:16
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HirvinenTeraDyne: Well, yes. But also one would think that 3 years after it's release, they'd rather be supporting KDE 4 than 3.03:16
Biovoresounds like a dead disk.. burn slower..03:16
Biteynii burned on hp cd's03:16
Biteynii burned on 16x on an hp cd03:17
Biovoreand check md5 sum after03:17
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Biteyniso i'll burn at 8x and ill first check the md5 sun03:17
Biteynibut when i insert the cd it loads the free software thingy on windows03:17
intelikeyBiovore should always burn installagion disks as slow as fiesablely possably and then run the disk test on the cd itsel03:17
Biteyniso doesn't that mean its ok?03:17
intelikeyBiteyni no that doesn't mean it's ok.  that means one file is ok03:18
intelikeyBiteyni SQUASHFS error <<<< means the disk is faulty03:18
Biovoreif the diskcheck (md5sum of the disk) match whats on ubuntu's site.. then its burnt good..03:19
Biovoreelse its bad..03:19
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Biovoresince you probably didn't select the verify option.. you can't tell if it was good or not..03:19
draikWhere do I put icon images?03:19
intelikeywhere ever you want them ?03:20
heroanywhere you want.03:20
Biovore~/.icons ussualy03:20
heroor /usr/share/icons03:20
Biovore^ or there03:20
intelikey /usr/share/something/something/03:20
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Biteynifor nero i did verify data on cd03:21
intelikeybut i would caution that any file not in your home dir should only be writable by root or special groups in some cases,       exception being /tmp03:21
herowhat intelikey said03:22
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Biovorehmm /tmp is my favorite dumping ground.. :-P03:22
facugaichHow can I configure Kopete to automatically log-in?03:22
Linracoonany kubuntu kdebase developer around?03:22
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intelikeyLinracoon more likely to find them in #ubuntu+1  or #kde03:23
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drowningAndGradewhat is the utility that mounts usb portable ntfs hard drives03:24
intelikeyif you don't want it or don't know what it is just put it in /dev/null for safe keeping...03:24
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse03:25
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singinmatt13I'm using a BCM4318 that's completely set up and working, but it recently has had trouble connecting to my WPA protected network.03:25
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singinmatt13oops, i'm still here03:26
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intelikeywe enjoy updates and news flashes like that singinmatt1303:26
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singinmatt13ok...well that was sort of a general prod for help03:26
singinmatt13typically people say "don't ask to ask"03:27
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singinmatt13that was an accident.  ha. i understand why it looks weird03:28
intelikeyi just found it ammusing.  no offence03:28
herosinginmatt13: don't worry about it. lots of wifi questions asked here03:28
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SloikOK, I've installed LAMP, but apache doesn't seem to be using PHP.03:29
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ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)03:30
intelikeythere was a node on that at one time...   i'll look03:30
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intelikeySloik check the "trubble shooting" sections of that page03:31
Biteyniintelikey so i burn at slowest at possible?03:31
intelikeyBiteyni yes.03:31
ritznixquicky question for the ultimate newbie how do i mount the dvd to play a movie03:32
intelikeyBiteyni and when you first boot the cd select the test this cd option03:32
Biteynialright i will03:32
Sloikintelikey: OK, thanks.03:32
Biteynibecause on the cd ive been using that wouldn't even load03:32
Biteynithe test thing didn't load it just went to blank hehehe03:32
intelikeyBiteyni that should be an indicator that something is wrong03:33
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Biteyniwell biteyni is slow :P03:33
BluesKajritznix, install libdvdcss203:33
Biovore(which is illegal :-P )03:33
BluesKaj!libdvdss2 | ritznix03:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libdvdss2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:33
intelikey!dvd > ritznix03:33
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BluesKaj!libdvdcss2 | ritznix03:34
uboturitznix: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs03:34
MarcC!dvd | ritznix03:34
intelikey!dvd > MarcC03:34
MarcC!dvd | intellikey03:34
ritznixi installed a totem player03:34
MarcC!dvd | intelikey03:34
ubotuintellikey: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs03:34
ubotuintelikey: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs03:34
r00t_how do i get feisty to read a sansdisk card form a digi cam?03:34
BluesKaj!codecs | everyone03:35
ubotueveryone: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:35
ritznixand i just had to open a location and i was going to like i belive mount the dvd drive ?03:35
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r00t_i only have a few mins before my friend has to leave with her cam and really need the pics,so any advice would be great!03:35
BluesKajI couldn't resist a bit of bot abuse this fine evening03:35
Biteyniintelli the slowest i can burn is at 8x is that good?03:36
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sansdisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:36
r00t_sorry i had some bot abuse to do also03:36
intelikeyr00t_ something like    sudo mount /dev/sda /media ;cp /media/* ~/Desktop03:36
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Biteyniburning iso at 8x good?03:37
Biovorethats what I burn at..03:37
intelikeyBiteyni wouldn't be on this 8x burner   1x would be  :)03:37
facugaich8x = 11mb/s03:38
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Biteynithe thing doesnt give option to go lower than 1x03:38
Biteynilower than 8x i mean03:38
Biteyni8x = 1.2 MB /s03:38
intelikeyyeah but probably goes up to 56x or something03:38
facugaichBiteyni: CD or DVD?03:38
Biteyniburning on cd03:39
facugaichMy mistake then03:39
Biteynithats what this is no? a cd iso?03:39
Biteyniah k03:39
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heroif i want to install a postgres server, which pkg can i install that will trigger the rest of the depends?03:40
herothere's a bunch!03:40
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Biteyniwe cant check the md5 hash of a cd can we?03:42
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nosrednaekimyeah, you can03:43
nosrednaekimI'm pretty sure.03:43
HirvinenBiteyni: I think md5sum /dev/cdrom would do it.03:43
Biteynibut i mean in windows?03:44
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ritznixmount -t auto /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom03:44
ritznixbut would that count as the cd / dvd drive if i have a movie in there and the software to play it03:45
hero'mount' would be a good nick03:45
heroof course, it's owned already03:45
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intelikeyritznix check for /dev/dvd     also -t auto is redundant if you dont specify -t then it's auto...03:47
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herocan you get ubotu to msg someone with a factoid?03:51
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heroubotu, tell hero about nvidia03:51
Biteynihero, tell biteyni about hero03:52
ardchoillehero: yes03:52
_Iamdawhen I'm on an IRC channel every few minutes while looking at the screen, there's an micro flash that's undetinguishable on right hand quadrant of screen.03:52
_IamdaHas anyone else had this same thing?03:53
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ardchoille_Iamda: Might be your irc client. Which one?03:53
ritznixi have the file03:54
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intelikeyBiteyni if the cd test is successful and you still have problems   come back and we'll see what we can do.03:54
ritznixohy ohy03:55
Biteynialright thnks03:55
kamui_is there something Im missing to playing MIDI's in kde?  I tried kmid, but Im getting no sound output03:55
ritznixjjust somethin simple haha do i have to actually mount the dvd itself03:55
kamui_my sound definately works cause I canplay mp3s03:55
kamui_all my mixer settings are maxed out too03:55
ritznixi do have a /dev/dvd03:55
intelikey!midi > kamui03:56
intelikey!midi > kamui_03:56
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intelikeyritznix did you install the needed "NON_FREE" software?     you can't decode dvd without it03:58
intelikey/j #blah03:58
pollofankhi there04:00
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juhorner25Does anybody know where I can find the Linux client for Q3 so I can install it from my PC disk?04:01
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Ze_Mwhere can i get latest gutsy cd?04:02
nineoneoneZe_M gutsy is not released04:02
LidoI figured some stuff out about the problem I've been having with my USB mouse not working after resuming from suspend to RAM.04:03
Ze_Mthere are gutsy snapshots04:03
Ze_Mnineoneone:  take a good look http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/gutsy/tribe-1/04:03
Lidohappens only when the mouse is plugged into a USB hub.04:03
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nineoneoneZe_M at what.  the release date is 7 1004:03
Lidoany hunches on why that might be?04:04
BluesKajthe latest http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/gutsy/tribe-2/04:04
Ze_MBluesKaj: thanks04:04
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ritznixumm umm non free software .. is there like a apt -get i need to get will all the approtiate plugins and such to be able to play dvds.04:04
Ze_MBluesKaj: whats this? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/current/04:05
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages04:05
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ardchoilleritznix: ^^04:05
CaBlGuYritznix:  look at this..04:05
Lidofrom the bug reports, sounds like quite a few people have similar problems, but no reports about whether people are using USB hubs or not.04:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mediabuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:05
CaBlGuYerr  hang on..04:05
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org04:05
ritznixhaha thankkkks ;)04:05
CaBlGuYritznix:    here..  read this..04:05
CaBlGuYNp   ;)04:06
ritznix this compiz is soooo coool04:06
Lidostrangely my wacom tablet works fine after a suspend through the hub everytime.04:06
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nosrednaekimritznix: lol... it is isn't it?04:08
drowningAndGradecan i run an application that i compiled in windows that uses windows directx dlls on kubuntu at all?04:08
Lidoam I in the wrong place with these kinds of questions?04:08
nosrednaekimritznix: you doing compiz fusion or just plain compiz?04:08
Ze_MBluesKaj: whats the difference from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/gutsy/tribe-2/   to  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/04:08
nosrednaekimdrowningAndGrade: wine?04:08
drowningAndGradedo i h ave to buy winbe?04:08
ardchoilleLido: If it's support for kubuntu, you're in the right place.04:08
nosrednaekimdrowningAndGrade: no04:09
nosrednaekim!wine| drowningAndGrade04:09
ubotudrowningAndGrade: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.04:09
BluesKajZe_M,the live current is a daily build which constantly updates your version with upgrades as they re released...mainly for testing04:10
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juhorner25Does anybody know where I can find the Linux client for Q3 so I can install it from my PC disk?04:10
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nineoneoneBluesKaj released ?   you mean introduced ?04:10
ritznixthe compiz fusion04:10
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ritznixhave a few little issues but eh get to it later at least its much better then beryl04:11
BluesKajyeah ok introduced for teating ...if you wish04:11
ardchoillejuhorner25: Any of these help? http://www.google.com/linux?hl=en&q=Q3&btnG=Search04:11
nosrednaekimritznix: I found it slower, but nicer04:11
evilmmis there a reaosn why my system idle at able 75% mem usg?04:12
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ritznixhmmmm the beryl was slower for me it must be like the config or video cards04:12
evilmmno beryl04:12
nineoneoneevilmm yeah you aren't reading the actual memory usage just the allocated04:13
BluesKajthe cache evilmm04:13
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evilmmno, the physical04:13
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nineoneoneevilmm  i.e. in konsole type  free -m         and read the   -/+ buffers/cache:   line04:14
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juhorner25Standalone Q3 will only let me play mod servers though, right?04:14
evilmm             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached04:14
evilmmMem:       1033940     778312     255628          0      67604     47549204:14
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nosrednaekimevilmm: do "free -m"04:15
nosrednaekimto show it in MB04:15
nosrednaekimeasier to read04:15
evilmmlol i did free m04:15
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nineoneoneany you didn't show the    -/+ buffers/cache:04:16
evilmmso +/-  is what i care bout?04:16
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nineoneonewhich is the actual memory usage04:16
ritznixthe weird thing is that when i activate the compiz there are like 16 desktops and my desktop 1 wallpaper is on all 16 and i only had 4 to begin04:16
nineoneonefeel better ?04:16
evilmmok thanks for solving that04:16
evilmmi was about to be like wtf04:17
Dragnslcrritznix- that's because Compiz turns each desktop into a cube04:17
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ritznixoh geesh wtf do i just have 1 cube then04:17
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mneptokBianchi: please don't use public /away messages on Ubuntu channels04:18
DragnslcrYou probably want to set your number of desktops in KDE to 104:18
nosrednaekimritznix: probably change your kde setting to have 1 desktop04:18
rayludoes compiz give you the top and bottom faces?04:18
Biovoreraylu: beryl you mean?04:18
nosrednaekimyeah. i've always wanted to use them for something04:18
raylucompiz; i have beryl04:19
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DragnslcrThe term "cube" is kinda misleading04:19
rayluor were you referring to beryl when you said compiz04:19
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DragnslcrYou can have as many faces as you want04:19
raylubut only cubes have quadrilateral faces04:19
Dragnslcrraylu- Beryl is being retired and merged back into Compiz04:19
ritznixsnazzy my compiz is much faster04:19
nosrednaekimDragnslcr: how do you add them?04:19
rayluo.0? when?04:19
ritznixi have the compiz fusion04:19
ritznixremoved beryl04:19
rayluo.0? fusion?04:19
ritznixnice features04:19
rayluwhat is all this stuff04:19
DragnslcrThe new official name is Compiz Fusion04:19
rayluis it worth switching now?04:20
ritznixam i able to have both installed at the same time04:20
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nosrednaekimraylu: not yet04:20
rayluyes, but not both running04:20
Dragnslcrnosrednaekim- the number of horizontal and vertical faces is in the settings04:20
raylunosrednaekim, is cf unstable?04:20
DragnslcrI'm running Fusion now, and it works fine04:20
nosrednaekimraylu: very04:20
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DragnslcrIt's no more unstable than Beryl04:21
CaBlGuYanyone know what I can use to burn m4a files??  Lossless audio..04:21
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects04:21
rayluanyone else's opinion?04:21
NickPrestaCaBlGuY, I would assume K3B can handle all your burning needs04:21
crimsunCaBlGuY: ALAC?04:21
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nineoneone!mp3 | CaBlGuY or is it !codecs04:22
ubotuCaBlGuY or is it !codecs: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:22
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BluesKajCaBlGuY, SoundKonvertor will convert m4a files04:23
herowhich MTA is basically secure out of the box? postfix?04:23
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:23
CaBlGuYyea, done already got all the codecs installed..  but k3b can't "handle" the lossless files..04:23
BluesKajCaBlGuY, SoundKonvertor !04:23
nineoneoneCaBlGuY ^ ><BluesKaj> CaBlGuY, SoundKonvertor will convert m4a files04:23
crimsunif it's m4a lossless, then you can't use faad-based ones.  You need to recompile ffmpeg with ALAC support.04:24
BluesKajtoo many cooks here again04:24
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raffytaffycould someone please recomend a sound card that works with 7.1 in feisty?04:25
nineoneoneBluesKaj ok. i'll hush.  cause i know crimsun's da sound guy...04:25
BluesKajgetting late anyway ...nite all, take care04:25
Biovorecreative audigy2 value SB040004:25
Biovoreworks out of the box04:25
Dragnslcrhero- I like Postfix, mainly because it isn't the complete pain to configure that sendmail can be04:25
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trakinasI have some doubts with grub config... for example: if my gentoo kernel is on device sda4, for example, the root paramter would be "root (0,4)"?04:26
Biovoresendmail is confusing to setup.. but man.. it can do anything..04:26
Biovoreemail by donky.. (send mail can do it)04:26
nineoneonesendmail + fetchmail  full server.04:26
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raffytaffywill it work with 7.,1 speakers Biovore?04:27
trakinasraffytaffy: my onboard works great. usually, soundboards does not gives too much troubles04:27
Biovorenot sure.. It should.. but I can't say for sure..04:27
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nineoneonetrakinas "root (hd0,3)"    would be more like it04:27
trakinasnineoneone: hmmm. thanks!04:27
Biovoreit has PCM side, LFE, Front, Surround mixer lines..  I don't have 7.1 speakers.. just Headphones..04:28
heroDragnslcr: thanks04:28
DragnslcrThe onboard sound I have does 5.1 quite well04:28
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DragnslcrWhich was nice, not having to buy another $150 sound card04:28
Biovorethe advantage to the creative cards that work in alsa is they have hardware mixing..04:28
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BiovoreA must for legicy OSS apps..04:29
raffytaffymy current card Creative sound blaster audigy se 7.1 doesnt work with feisty04:30
DragnslcrI even got the motherboard with optical and coaxial outputs so that it would work with my old Cambridge Soundworks speakers04:30
raffytaffyi tried all the guides and nothing04:30
trakinasnineoneone: root=UUID=31ae020d-e9e3-4085-9e6e-05bf04f7d58c --> how do I discover that?04:31
raffytaffyonly 2 speakers work04:31
BigMacHey, is there a way to get rid of those black things ( http://img.waffleimages.com/d79c571a9c3b99e488681a5de2cbd47a69247dfb/Screenshot%20(copy).png ) in KATE ?04:31
BiovoreBigMac: thats line wrap04:32
Biovoreturn of line wrap..04:32
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ses59_could some one please send me the link for the channels that are available for freenode04:34
BigMacIsn't line wrap "when you reach th end of the line start back over on the next line, not keep going"04:34
BigMacI am talking about those black and white checkered things that mark tabs04:34
Dragnslcrses59_- checked http://www.freenode.net?04:34
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Dragnslcrses59_- or using the channel listing ability of your IRC client?04:35
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ses59_that is the thing that i do not know is how to make the irc client list channesl04:35
hitmanWillyses59_: /list should do it IIRC04:36
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trakinasshould do on almost every client04:36
Dragnslcrses59_- depends on your client04:36
facugaichHow can I set Kopete to login automatically?04:36
DragnslcrSettings -> Configure -> Behavior04:37
ses59_is my client04:37
kamui_I need some more midi advice, I want to convert a ton of midis' to mp3's is there any software that would make that easier to do in say a batch operation?  if not, is there any recommended software that I can use to directly record wave output from my mixer to mp3 format?04:37
hitmanWillyses59_: should work then04:37
DaSkreechMidi -> Mp3?04:38
DaSkreechfascinating :)04:38
hitmanWillykamui_: ffmpeg should handle that, i would think04:38
nineoneonemidi != mp304:38
MasterEvilAceThat's... not worth doing04:38
kamui_it actually is quite worth doing04:38
MasterEvilAceMidis are TINY.. and sounds are generated by the soundcard or w/e04:38
MasterEvilAceconverting to an mp3.. file size becomes a lot larger.. you're not hearing any better quality, etc.04:39
kamui_there are a few great songs I have composed in midi format that the timidity and drumsets in linux sound amazing04:39
nineoneoneand most sound cards don't support midi  so you have to have a ton of software to play them04:39
kamui_I want to capture the audio to mp3 because the midis sound aweful in windows with its default drumkits04:39
DaSkreechI have a solution to that ! :)04:40
kamui_additionally my car stereo does not play midi :)04:40
DaSkreechDon't use Windows04:40
facugaichAudacity can record wave output04:40
kamui_thats a good idea, I can always convert the wavs to mp3s04:40
facugaichbut getting it to work with ALSA is tricky04:40
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Biovoreaudio recording04:41
nineoneonelets see take a 5k midi and record the output as wave=90+M   hmmm that should work....04:41
hitmanWillykamui_: solution: plug a patch cable into your speaker out jack and your mike in jack, presto!04:41
kamui_thought of that too, that was my fall back04:42
evilmmanyone know a good prog for joining video files together?04:42
trakinasanyone able to help me with grub?04:42
kamui_didn't want to detangle about 10,000 wires to free a patch cable from my boxOcables in the closet04:42
nineoneonehitmanWilly heh why not just slect the psm as the recording input04:42
hitmanWillythat works too04:42
nineoneonetrakinas what's the issue ?04:43
trakinasnineoneone: how do I conigure the hex id? (i.e: UUID=31ae020d-e9e3-4085-9e6e-05bf04f7d58c)04:44
nineoneoneeeeek.  i haven't actually used block id's in grub.  better ask someone that has04:45
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hitmanWillytrakinas: why do you want to do that, anyway04:46
nineoneoneremovable media i would assume04:47
hitmanWillyahhh, ok04:47
hitmanWillyfdisk -l should give you the UUID of any plugged devices IIRC04:47
trakinasI just want to include gentoo and be able to boot it04:47
WhtWolfTeraDynegrr... I got Digikam compiled, but now it's SIGABRTing on me...04:47
evilmmanyone know a good prog for joining video files together?04:48
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Biovoreevilmm: ogm mkv and avi's can be done using some different command line tools.. but they must the exact same format to cat videos together..04:49
hitmanWillytrakinas: is it a internal drive you want to boot?04:50
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evilmmanything for wmv?04:50
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Biovorenope.. propriatary.. have to use windows..04:50
yurimxpxmanis there any particular mail server any of you would recommend?04:50
Biovore^ smtp or receiving mail (pop/ imap?)04:50
evilmmarent the codecs propietart to begin with? lol04:50
hitmanWillyevilmm: absolutely04:51
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Biovorexvid,mpeg4,x264 arn't04:51
hitmanWillyevilmm: at least wmv is :(04:51
Biovorejust transcode all you video to xvid or x264 and then paste them together..04:52
Biovorekino is a video editing program.. but it won't do wmv04:52
Biovorethere is stuff that can play it back04:52
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hitmanWillyfor split videos, i usually just save an m3u playlist and activate that04:53
trakinashitmanWilly: yes it is04:54
xerxes31415hello all, could someone PM me, I have some basic questions about ubuntu/kubuntu/linux04:54
trakinashitmanWilly: sorry for taking too long,04:54
hitmanWillytrakinas: just use the device names for the system you are booting then04:54
nineoneoneanyone know how to remove packages in the database marked  rc  or  pc   ???04:54
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trakinaswhat you mean? sorry...04:55
hitmanWillytrakinas: once you set the root drive, grub pulls all of its data off of that drive04:55
nineoneoneany someone ?04:55
trakinashmmmm... so i only need to put root (hd0,3)?04:55
DaSkreechxerxes31415: ask them here. It may help others04:56
hitmanWillytrakinas: and the path to the kernel using that drive as root04:56
hitmanWillytrakinas: for example:04:56
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hitmanWillyroot (hd0,0)04:57
hitmanWilly kernel /boot/linux-2.6.22-generic-1 root=/dev/sdb104:57
hitmanWillyis how my gentoo grub.conf is set up04:57
nineoneoneor you can copy the kernel to your other /boot and just specify the kernel and the root=/dev/sda4    and it should boot04:57
trakinashmmmmmm... intersting. i was really confused about those options.04:57
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hitmanWillytrakinas: substitute in your own options where applicable :)04:57
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trakinashitmanWilly: of course! ;] 04:58
MarkGEllos, Anybody had any luck with the LinuxMCE 1.1 Beta 2 Installation?04:58
nineoneonedid update-grub   not automatically find the other installation04:58
xerxes31415I'm actually running ubuntu with konversation installed, and I was wondering what exactly is KDE and gnome, and how am I able to run a KDE app while not running the general KDE environment?04:59
hitmanWillytrakinas: yeah, for some reason my system calls hd0,0 sdb104:59
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nineoneonehitmanWilly cause its in /boot/grub/devices.map04:59
kamui_damn, audacity was a great idea, but it crashes every minute or so05:00
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hitmanWillyyeah, its cause i swapped around the bios boot order post install05:00
hitmanWillyand never changed devices.map05:00
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nineoneonei can play musical boot loaders on this box  has three boot loaders working atm.    can't get ide disk primary slave "hdb" to accept a boot loader correctly tho05:02
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hitmanWillygranted, that is a few steps above the typical ubuntu user ;)05:02
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nineoneoneif crossing the channel is a few brest strokes  that's a few steps.05:03
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hitmanWillyi grew up on slack, so tweaking config files doesn't scare me05:04
nineoneoneanyone know how to remove packages in the database marked  rc  or  pc   ???05:04
hitmanWillynineoneone: you could --force it i believe05:05
hitmanWilly nineoneone with dpkg05:05
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nineoneonehere's what i'm looking at  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3810905:07
nineoneoneand that's one example of many05:07
nineoneonei don't think that paste has the force  but i did with   dpkg -P --force-all apmd    same error same end result05:08
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nineoneoneall apt will do is    Package apmd is not installed, so not removed05:09
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hitmanWillynineoneone: ok, try a reinstall via apt, then the -P with dpkg05:09
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nineoneonei have several packages that are not installed but the dpkg database says they are05:09
hitmanWillynineoneone: probably all residual config files i would guess05:10
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nineoneoneyes    but i just want the data base cleand up.   so searching  dpkg -l  doesn't hit things that arent there05:11
hitmanWillynineoneone: hold on, im gonna man dpkg real quick see if anything pops up05:11
nineoneonehitmanWilly reinstalling apmd then removing same error.   Errors were encountered while processing:05:12
nineoneone apmd05:12
nineoneonei got it.   i'll remove the postrm script and then run the purge05:13
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hitmanWillynineoneone: yeah, that should work05:14
nineoneonenow to script that on 96 packages05:16
hitmanWillynineoneone: fun times....05:17
hitmanWillyi would think there'd be a way to fix that without having to revert to brute force methods05:18
vbgunzI cannot access any tty (1 through 6) switching to one, just shows the top 1/3 of the screen in black and the bottom 2/3 of what ever X screen I was currently at. Can anyone help me get my tty access back?05:20
nineoneoneme too but the brute is at work now.05:20
hitmanWillyoh well, its a hack, but it works :)05:21
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nineoneonevbgunz frame buffer05:22
vbgunznineoneone: not sure how to fix that, I don't wish to reboot to fix it :(05:22
hitmanWillyvbgunz: you may just try restarting X05:23
vbgunzhitmanWilly: I've done that several times. through the loging option and Ctrl+Alt+Backspace :(05:23
hitmanWillyhmmmm, not really sure on that one then....05:24
vbgunzit's frustrating, I lost access to those tty and not sure how in the world to get them back :(05:24
nineoneonevbgunz not likely that you will fix that without rebooting...    "if it is a frame buffer problem"    basicly what has happened is the kernel doesn't remember the exact state of the display to restore it too.05:25
vbgunzwell, I logged into the terminal a while ago. a couple days ago. I remember logging out but if I go to the K menu, and go to switch user, the user I was logged in as, under the terminal I was logged in at (1), is still logged in. How can I kick him? maybe that'll work?05:26
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nineoneonethat's one reason i don't like frame buffering for the boot splash     about a third of the time it's a trade off  you get a few seconds of boot splash for loss of access to the console.05:26
vbgunznineoneone: my box has been up for 15 days. this problem only started several days ago :/05:27
nineoneonevbgunz kill05:27
vbgunzyeah, but how do I kill OR killall a users session on terminal 1?05:27
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hitmanWillyvbgunz: killall -u05:28
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vbgunzyeah, I just man kill and didn't find it, I see --user under killall05:29
NickPrestaI like slay05:29
vbgunzthe thing is, I logged into the terminal under the name I am logged in as now using X :/05:29
raylukill is a bit annoying to use05:29
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vbgunznineoneone: doesn't that kill everything you can kill?05:29
WhtWolfTeraDyneYES! DigiKam 0.9.2 is finally working. I had to recompile all of the Kipi dependancies as well as Kipi-Plugins itself, but it's working.05:30
nineoneoneerr actually kills everything that root can kill05:30
nineoneonetrust me the user is not there after you run that05:30
hitmanWillywhat i like to call a system kamikaze :)05:31
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nineoneonekill init ?05:31
nineoneoneif i type exit it kill init...05:31
WhtWolfTeraDyneI have a whole lot of respect for the packaging team. Just tryign to get the new digiKam was heck...05:31
drowningAndGradewhats kamikaze? is that terrifying sounding company in need of helpful developers?05:32
WhtWolfTeraDynedrowningAndGrade: Kamikaze = Suicide run. See also "Installing Windows"05:32
vbgunznineoneone: If I ran sudo kill -9 -1 how do I get all my system services back up? probably can't especially if I cannot access the terminal huh?05:32
drowningAndGradeor running windows05:32
nineoneoneah nice everything in the dpkg -l   now is ii  :)05:33
nineoneoneim a crappy hamper again05:33
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vbgunzwell, what do I have to lose, I need my terminal :)05:34
hitmanWillyah hah, intelikey, trying to hide on me :)05:34
drowningAndGradeis there a way to keep programming in a direct x game engine i was using on windows on kubuntu?05:34
intelikeyvbgunz you run   init 305:35
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vbgunzintelikey: thank you, was just about to give it a try :)05:35
intelikeyhitmanWilly you know someone else that would be brute forcing dpkg ?05:35
vbgunzintelikey: sudo or no sudo05:35
vbgunzok, got it05:35
intelikeyvbgunz if you can't see anything   ctrl alt del05:36
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WhtWolfTeraDyneI... don't... beleive it...05:36
hitmanWillyi shoulda guessed on that one05:36
vbgunzgot it05:36
drowningAndGradeis there a way to keep programming in a direct x game engine i was using on windows on kubuntu?05:36
WhtWolfTeraDynethere was a digikam 3rd party repo all this time...05:36
BiovoredrowningAndGrade: wine?05:36
drowningAndGradewhat ide would i use?05:36
BiovoredrowningAndGrade: switch to SDL05:37
hitmanWillydrowningAndGrade: you can program anything you want, it just won't compile sice the libs aren't there :)05:37
drowningAndGradebut with vb.net all i had to include were the dlls05:37
Biovoremost pro on linux use vi or emacs..05:37
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Biovoregui's are for noobs05:37
hitmanWillydrowningAndGrade: those ARE the libs05:38
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drowningAndGradei have the dlls05:38
Biovoredosn't help you on linux..05:38
Biovoredlls are for windows05:38
hitmanWillydrowningAndGrade: not relly sure if dlls can be used a nix libs...don't think so05:38
BiovoreOn all platforms (other then windows) you have to use OpenGL05:39
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hitmanWillydrowningAndGrade: you may want to see if vb will work under wine if you're really bound and determined to use dx05:39
drowningAndGradei just had this game going in windows and vb.net and this realy great game engine, and then i got tired of buying crashy windows05:40
hitmanWillydrowningAndGrade: since there's no vb compiler for nix either, at least that I know of...05:40
intelikeyBiovore i'll never make pro...05:40
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hitmanWillyeither that or vim05:40
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Biovorecolumb edit mode rules!!!05:41
Biovoreepecialy for VHDL05:41
hitmanWillyanjuta is nice for really large projects05:41
drowningAndGradeif i put up a website with this start of a game, then im going to have to explain to employers on the site that i had to ditch windows because it crashes on me all the time05:41
drowningAndGradewas there a vb.net ide on linux?05:42
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Biovorehmm.. well you can go the road epic and ID went..  They develop on linux and then port to windows and platforms05:42
hitmanWillydrowningAndGrade: lol05:42
drowningAndGradewindows is realy super annoying05:43
hitmanWillydrowningAndGrade: i doubt you'll EVER see one of those :)05:43
Biovorewell using VB isn't going to fix that problem..05:43
Biovorethat and VB is slow..05:43
hitmanWillydrowningAndGrade: learn C/C++ and opengl05:43
Biovore^ yeah.. thats the way to go..05:43
drowningAndGradeit works well with 3d engines that are made for it05:43
drowningAndGradeit realy cool with 3d engines that are put well together for it05:43
Biovoreyou can get the hot specs off nvidia/ati developers and can use all the fancy direct X10 stuff under opengl under custom calls that are not yet part of any standard..05:44
BiovoreOpenGL stand is under going some masive changes in the next year05:44
drowningAndGradeim going to have a small crisis05:44
hitmanWillydrowningAndGrade: that's probably the best way to do that, plus the apps will be portable to most any other platform05:44
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Biovore<drowningAndGrade> im going to have a small crisis  <-- Thank you for using Microsoft.. Can we create another desaster for you to day.05:45
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hitmanWillywindows does not play well with other platforms05:45
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Biovoreyeah.. even apple plays nice with gnu..05:46
Biovoreand wun05:46
hitmanWillyoh, btw the ps3 runs opengl as well :)05:46
evilmmis an int14 when booting a live cd always the video card?05:46
BiovoreUT3 will run on linux mac and PS3  and will be network portable between them05:46
Biovoreevilmm: depends whats using interrupt 1405:47
hitmanWillyso personnally, i don't see why the big games for the ps3 couldn't be ported05:47
BiovorehitmanWilly: well the good news it they peobably will.. alot of the are being based on the UT3 engine05:47
hitmanWillythereby ending the "hardcore gamer" windows lock-in :)05:48
hitmanWillyhopefully, anyway05:48
Biovorewell.. microsoft backed games will always be windows locked-in05:48
hitmanWillyyeah, but there aren't THAT many of those...yet05:48
evilmmgoing to bed05:48
evilmmnight all05:49
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raghuim soo frustrated with this flash problem05:51
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raghuevery time i load a page that has flash like youtube it crashes when i click a link05:51
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raghuthere is no fix anywhere on the web05:51
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash05:52
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WhtWolfTeraDyneI'm off to bed. Later all. *sets away*05:54
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raghuthanks for all the help05:59
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:59
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raghuevery time i load a page that has flash like youtube it crashes when i click a link05:59
raghuflash crashes05:59
raghui mean the web browser crashes06:00
raghuwhats intelikey06:00
Biteynino im asking if hes at his computer :p06:00
Biteyniupdate flash?06:00
raghui did06:00
Biteyniand check settings06:00
raghui did06:00
raghuits a huge problem06:01
hitmanWillyraghu: what browser?06:01
raghukonqueror and firefox06:01
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raghuif theres too much flash it just seems to stop working and then the kde thing comes up and says terminate or keep running06:01
hitmanWillysounds like the flash plugin is corrupted somehow, try a remove and reinstall06:01
raghuthe flash works tho06:01
Biteyniremove and reinstall06:02
raghuhow do i do that06:02
raghuhow do i uninstall the flash06:02
hitmanWillyraghu: sudo dpkg -P flashplugin-nonfree; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree06:03
Biteynigrowl could not install ubuntu06:05
raghuit says download complete06:05
raghumd5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz06:05
raghuThe Flash plugin is NOT installed.06:06
hitmanWillywell, there's the problem, the download is corrupted06:06
raghuso what do i do06:07
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hitmanWillyraghu: did you get it with apt?06:07
raghui checked the about:plugins in mozilla06:07
raghu libflashplayer.so is the name of the file being used to output flv's06:08
hitmanWillyraghu: its uninstalled right now, try restarting firefox06:08
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raghustill there06:09
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hitmanWillyraghu: hmm, well, the .so file should be gone with the uninstall, i doubt flash would open06:10
hitmanWillyraghu: for some reason, the download is getting corrupted06:12
hitmanWillyraghu: i would suggest trying again later06:12
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joelhello everyone06:13
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eazye2008alright people so i installed beryl how do i get the cube thingy running06:16
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wolferineeazye2008, in the beryl manager06:22
intelikeyhmm looks like i pinged out.   did i miss anything important while gone ?06:24
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intelikeyi guess not.06:25
kurymy friend screwed up his xorg.conf on his knew kubuntu system.... and I was going to help him make a new one... but he doesn't have xorgconfig or anything to generate a new one...  and he doesn't seem to have network access.. any ideas?06:26
intelikeykury cause ubuntu never has used xorgconfig06:27
kuryintelikey, is their a similiar xorg.conf generator program??06:27
intelikeykury sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:27
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kuryintelikey, will do.. I'll check that out.. thx06:28
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trakinasdoes anyone knows an cd-audio burner who imports playlists?06:32
trakinask3b doesnt. :/06:33
trakinas(no problems if it is gtk. )06:33
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intelikeytrakinas  !i06:33
trakinasintelikey: sup!06:33
intelikeyoh that's  not eye    !i06:34
trakinasIm confused06:35
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intelikeynot I == !i    i don't know of a burner that imports playlists   and now by using shell code shorthand i have liengthened my post by 800%06:37
trakinasi see now06:37
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intelikeyand i can't use !i as a single string cause the bot gets confused06:38
intelikeywhat bot ????06:38
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intelikeyubotu wake up06:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about i - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wake up - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:38
intelikeythat bot06:38
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ijulhey guys06:41
ijulI think I really need help, here :s06:41
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:41
ijulthank you06:42
ijulok, I've installed kubuntu, and I had to change my graphic card, from ATI to NVIDIA06:42
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ijulI just managed to trick the driver into having a better resolution than 320x240@3006:42
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:42
ubotuA Modeline is a config line in the X server configuration file that gives info about a connected display and how to drive it at a specified display resolution. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFree86_Modeline for more details. Here are 2 links to generate modelines which fit your monitor: http://bohne-lang.de/spec/linux/modeline/ and http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl06:43
K-RyanThat one06:43
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intelikeyijul so recofigure it.06:43
ijulnow, I m getting some REALLY weird result with beryl, not to mention, I cant boot emerald and Kiba dock also fucks up :s06:43
ijulno, now I got 1024x76806:43
intelikey!nv | ijul06:43
ubotuijul: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:43
ijulits installed06:43
ijulthe problem is I can't boot emerald :s06:44
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intelikeyoh emerald06:44
ijulyeah :s06:44
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects06:44
ijulnow I think there is an alternative, Heliodor, right?06:44
bones_If I were to get ubuntu installed on a laptop would I be able to compleatly migrate over to Kubuntu with no gnome left?06:45
intelikeybones_ yeah if you strip it before you add the desktop06:45
K-Ryanbones_: It would be better to just install Kubuntu06:45
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intelikeybones_ there are docs on the net about libs that gnome depends on06:46
intelikeyor SRN906:46
SRN9I see06:46
intelikeymy openion is, install then install kde     then  for Q in `dpkg -l | cut -d' ' -f3` ;do apt-get remove $Q ;done ;apt-get install kubuntu-desktop06:48
SRN9and that takes GDM out of the picture?06:49
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intelikeyor better to -y that first apt get06:49
intelikeyit does06:49
intelikeyit takes all non-essentials out06:49
intelikeyand the gui is definitly non-essential06:49
SRN9ok so none of the bloat just the basics to ensure a working system?06:49
intelikeydefine working ?06:50
SRN9GUI and works well enough after all changes:P06:50
intelikeysee above posts ^06:50
intelikey<intelikey> it takes all non-essentials out06:50
intelikey<intelikey> and the gui is definitly non-essential06:50
SRN9Ok I see now.06:51
intelikeySRN9 sounds like you want to just get the ubuntu CD06:51
intelikeyerrr kubuntu06:51
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intelikeyK'ubuntu CD06:52
intelikeySRN9 then don't run my command string.06:53
SRN9yeah I may just need to fresh install06:53
intelikeySRN9 one quick Q   why does it matter if gnome is installed or not, if you don't use it ?06:53
trakinasintelikey: k3b can import via amarok playlist.06:53
intelikeyyou can have many desktop environments06:54
intelikeytrakinas ok.   i'll remember that until i log off, so if anyone asks again i can tell them06:54
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intelikeyhmm looks like gnome eats about     After unpacking 710MB of additional disk space will be used.06:55
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trakinasintelikey: you create a new playlist in amarok, save it with any given name. the just drag and drop it into k3b cd audio dialog.06:56
SRN9ok well never mind then:P I thought it was more.06:56
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SRN9I dont use it so I did not know :P06:56
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deathweaveranyone got a minute to help a kubuntu newbie?06:57
intelikeyheres one for kde  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3811106:57
intelikeyAfter unpacking 764MB of additional disk space will be used.06:58
SRN9so if im correct all together 1.4gb? together06:58
SRN9or am I just a bit off06:58
trakinasjust a few packs06:59
intelikeySRN9 no less.  cause many repetes in the two lists06:59
intelikeySRN9 those are the meta packages for  gnome  and  kde   not ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop  which will inclued several non-*de* apps07:00
intelikeyi can run the other meta packages throught if you like07:00
SRN9no thats great07:01
SRN9that was all the assistance I needed on that.07:01
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dvmhow can i run the glade-3 after adding all the widgets?07:01
intelikeyhere are the other two anyway   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38112    "inline"07:02
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intelikey1402MB for ubuntu-desktop and 1195MB for kubuntu-desktop     i may have a few of the things kubuntu-desktop depends on already installed.07:04
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intelikeydvm i'm totally clue-by-four'less07:04
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intelikeyi just fired up a gui,  somebody call that nine one one number what ever it is...07:07
intelikeyi may be sick07:07
klobsterintelikey: do you even have a mouse?07:12
intelikey!info gpm07:13
ubotugpm: General Purpose Mouse Interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.19.6-23build1 (feisty), package size 340 kB, installed size 660 kB07:13
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intelikeyleft button copy right button    * Starting mouse interface server: gpm                                  [ ok ] 07:13
klobsteroh yeah, I remember that07:14
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intelikeythe console seems kinda bare without it...07:14
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rayluwhat does gpm do?07:16
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intelikeyconsole mouse07:17
intelikeylets you copy and paste in the console, also some apps have mouse support like elinks and mc  but i disable them so they don't get in the way of copy and paste...07:17
raylubut you already have that...07:18
klobsterand it's installed.  thanks intelikey07:18
intelikeyklobster welcome07:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about klobster - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:19
raylu!find klobster07:19
ubotuPackage/file klobster does not exist in feisty07:19
rayluapt can't find it either07:19
clouder_How do I make columns slide over when I'm adjusting their width rather than shrinking the next one over, speciically in Amarok (the playlist column information), but would be helpful in any app?07:19
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klobsterI am not a package i am a free man!07:21
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intelikeyget all your klobsterZ at
intelikeykinda like warez ya know.07:22
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klobster!info gpm07:23
ubotugpm: General Purpose Mouse Interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.19.6-23build1 (feisty), package size 340 kB, installed size 660 kB07:23
klobsterraylu ^^07:23
sfirewill a 256MB ATI Radeon X1300 Pro work easily with feisty?07:23
raylulol =\07:23
raylusorry, klobster07:23
raylui remember seeing you too07:24
rayluwhich is why i vaguely remembered the name07:24
intelikeysfire ati  yuch07:24
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:24
sfireintelikey: its a system on dell I'm looking to buy07:24
sfireI've always gone nvidia07:24
intelikeyor even intel07:24
intelikeyi810 works well07:25
intelikeythe best i can say about "ATI" is that some idiot seems to buy a lot of them07:25
sfirewell the computer is a steal.. is the ATI a deal breaker?07:26
intelikey"every hour some idiot buys another ATI card"   :)))07:26
sfireit will work right?07:26
intelikeysfire some people get them to yes.   some dont.07:26
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intelikeyand when he sleeps.07:28
intelikeynever mind.07:28
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sfireok... I'm going to buy it07:29
sfirehopefully I'll get lucky07:29
intelikey"every 47 minutes someone gets ran over in LA"07:29
intelikeyboy you need to watch out for that guy...  he's a real driving hazard07:30
klobsterman, maybe you should stick with the cli; your jokes were better07:31
raylu[21:01:33.734]  <SaM[i] @USEast> When i try  to connect it, i get this message: Invalid Password [21:01:36.562]  <SaM[i] @USEast> whats that mean?07:31
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raylu[12:48:13.281]  <Sixen@Lordaeron> Hello, I am a BOT. I have tons of information. To find out what I know whisper '.help' to me. All commands are prefixed with a period. [12:48:24.484]  <ptheb> .help to me07:32
raylulol, since intelli is telling jokes :P07:33
intelikeywhat network is that on ?07:34
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kurymy friend runs kubunutu and has uninstalled knetworkmanager do to some problems with it... but now it says we can't reinstall it because it can't commit the changes because it would break packages...07:36
kuryhow can I help him fix this??07:36
rayluare you using adept?07:36
raylusudo dpkg --configure -a07:36
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kuryyes he uses adept..07:37
raylurun that07:37
intelikeykury you can   sudo apt-get install knetworkmanager     to see what it conflicts07:37
rayluor what intelikey said07:37
intelikeykury it's possably a ligitimate conflict,  in which case you would need to uninstall the conflicting package to install that.07:38
intelikeyligitimiti   i cint spill viry will07:39
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josephCan anyone help me I just updated ubuntu and added kde somewhere in the process I managed to somehow make it so the grub loader has a background and the scroll bar is black on black how can I change the scroll bar to another color?07:42
vzduchjoseph: punctuation marks exist for a reason..07:43
wolferinehe has a question mark07:43
vzduchhe should have 2.. and 2 full stops07:44
vzduchand perhaps an occasional comma07:44
josephIt's one question and I was trying to be detailed07:44
intelikeyquestion mark is not a full stop ?07:44
intelikey!usplash | joseph07:45
ubotujoseph: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork07:45
wolferinedetailed has nothing to do with it07:45
intelikeywe don't really care how you punctuate your grammer   as long as it's not with the enter key.07:46
rayluis there a way to get loading screen text to show? (loading screen = before login, after grub, during kubuntu blue progress bar)07:46
kuryraylu, intelikey, that worked guys... thanks07:46
rayluo.0...that was slow :P07:46
intelikeykury welcome07:47
vzduchraylu: /boot/grub/menu.lst -> delete 'splash' from the kernel line and replace it w/ a VGA mode07:47
rayluactually, you can have both ^^07:48
rayluand i think you have to take out quiet too07:48
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vzduchother distros use 'splash=verbose' for that07:48
vzduchdunno if it works in *buntu07:48
raylubut my previous config was07:48
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rayluroot=UUID=e9c1db5e-e47d-47d7-ae80-8eba676259a1 ro splash vga=79207:48
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raylui didn't notice the change till you pointed it out07:49
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arunIs it possible to change the look of KMail?07:49
rayluyes. thunderbird ^^07:49
arunTweak some of the css07:49
intelikeykmail....  mut07:49
rayluyou can try tweaking kontact, but i stopped using it and haven't touched it in a while; brb07:49
intelikey!find Mail07:50
aruni dont like the way thunderbird looks in kde (or gnome, for that matter)07:50
ubotuFound: emacs, emacs21, emacs21-nox, evolution, exim4-daemon-heavy (and 250 others)07:50
intelikeyi don't like the disk space it takes up07:51
vzduchI don't like some of its behaviour.. at least the way it was till I stopped using it (1.0.7 or so)07:51
arunintelikey: thunderbird? or kmail07:51
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arunevolution isn't free, is it07:52
rayluit is07:52
arunany good kde mail clients apart from kmail?07:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about evolution - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:52
raylu!find evolution07:52
ubotuFound: evolution, evolution-common, evolution-dbg, evolution-dev, evolution-exchange (and 18 others)07:52
vzduch!info evolution07:52
ubotuevolution: groupware suite with mail client and organizer. In component main, is optional. Version 2.10.1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 2478 kB, installed size 7704 kB07:52
intelikeyarun tbird07:52
rayluand my bootscreen is perfect now ^^07:52
arunoh evolution is different from novell evolution07:52
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intelikeyarun ff tbird mozilla in general07:52
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rayluwhat does the ro option do, though?07:53
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intelikeyraylu read only07:53
raylui see07:53
rayluthe only diff in safemode is "single"07:53
rayluwhat's that?07:53
arunso kmail is the only good kde mail client?07:53
rayluarun, tbird!07:53
intelikeyraylu because fs checking on a read/write fs is bad.07:53
rayluand evolution works on kde too07:53
intelikeyraylu single user mode.   runlevel 107:54
vzduchraylu: single-user mode, I'd say, equivalent to runlevel 1 in traditional terms07:54
rayluawesome. now, if only my touchpad scrolled...07:54
aruni know it works on kde, but it doesn't look good07:54
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rayluevolution is gtk, right?07:55
arunsilly stuff like that is important to me :p07:55
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raylubut you can change the gtk theme07:55
raylui don't know...yet :P07:55
intelikeydefault = the starting point on the very long road to "right"07:55
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aruni'm using a theme for firefox.. so my firefox looks and works great07:55
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aruni couldn't find any good theme for thunderbird07:56
arunall the good themes are for 1.5.x07:56
rayluno...for gtk, default = burns your eyes out, making it impossible to get to "acceptable"07:56
arunnot for 2.0+07:56
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FriHI all,07:56
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intelikeyis all back ?07:56
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allnow he is'07:57
allhi fri07:57
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rayluah ha!07:57
arunwhat email clients do you use (that look decent)07:57
raylualt+f1 > system settings > appearance > [bottom] , arun07:57
Frido you know a good firewall for kubuntu07:58
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).07:58
raylu(don't use guarddog)07:58
arunraylu: i know how to do it, i mean where cani get good gtk styles07:58
alliptables is the linux firewall07:58
rayluarun, no idea :P07:59
allalthough ipchains has been used in the past...07:59
rayluwhat's so bad about thunderbird?07:59
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Friso you're telling me that installing a firewall is not necessary07:59
rayluwell, its actually never neccessary07:59
raylujust make sure nothing is daemon-ing on your system07:59
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allFri do you have anti-virus setup   :)))07:59
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ubotuA/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2108:00
Friyes I use KlamAV08:00
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rayluarun, http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/923/08:00
dotzhow do i make apt-get such that when i type apt-get install lib<tab> then it will list all the matching packages?08:00
allFri heh ok.   you should probably read that anyway &08:00
alldotz you don't....    but apt-get install lib*   will get them all...    you don't want that tho.08:01
alldotz bash completion    see /etc/bash_completion08:02
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allor rather    . /etc/bash_completion       will enable it for that shell08:02
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arunraylu: thanks08:02
dotzcompletion let me try08:02
rayludotz, aptitude search lib08:03
arunraylu: is there any css file i can tweak to customise kmail?08:03
vzduchthe city council of Rotterdam, the Netherlands, is going to close down 27 coffeeshops because they're located too close to schools08:03
all. /etc/bash_completion08:03
rayluarun, again, haven't used it in forever; never got that deep08:03
raylubut i doubt it reads colors and whatnot from a css file...08:03
allraylu he did specify apt  so   apt-cache search blah08:03
dotzall: do i have to make it executable? its not now08:03
raylumore likely xml or something similar08:03
all. /etc/bash_completion08:03
rayluall: i know...which is why i said aptitude :P08:04
alldotz just like that08:04
all. /etc/bash_completion08:04
allwith the dot08:04
dotz-bash: ./etc/bash_completion: No such file or directory08:04
allyou didn't use the dot08:04
rayluyou mean no dot08:04
dotzi used08:04
all. /etc/bash_completion08:04
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alltty3 [greg$~]  . /etc/bash_completion08:05
alltty3 [greg$~] 08:05
alljust like that.....     come on  you can do it.08:05
rayluwhat does that do?08:05
dotzmdserver3:~# ./etc/bash_completion08:06
dotz-bash: ./etc/bash_completion: No such file or directory08:06
rayludotz, with a space08:06
dotz-rw-r--r-- 1 root   root   211K 2006-12-12 05:20 bash_completion08:06
dotzgot it!08:06
alldotz    so if you can't copy and paste a single line,  or even type it correctly i'm finished helping08:06
dotzthx alot08:06
rayluall, what does that do?08:06
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allraylu enables bash_completion on that shell.08:07
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rayluexplain the command please?08:07
allraylu man it.08:07
dotzall: do i have to do that all the time or its a once-only thing?08:07
rayluNo manual entry for bash_completion08:07
makuseruhi, i have a question about mplayer, when you do 'mplayer -dumpaudio video.avi' it dumps the audio stram out for you, is there anyway to dump only a portion of it out? just like point a to point b, instead of dumping the entire stream?08:09
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alldotz for all the time you need to put it in a startup file   i,e,  ~/.bash_bashrc08:09
allif you put the exact same command in there    it will run it for you each time you open a shell08:10
allerrr login to a shell   or how ever you understand it08:10
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klobstershout out: http:/firewater.tv best band ever.  give em your ears, then give em your money08:11
raylumakuseru, i'm looking at http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/man/en/mplayer.1.html08:11
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raylumakuseru, you may want to try man mplayer08:11
makuserualready did08:12
makuseruklobster: stop spamming08:12
rayluaudio-delay option08:12
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rayluoh =\ that's probably not what you want08:13
rayluthere's also a -delay for video, which does the same thing as -audio-delay [negative number] 08:13
makuseruhaha, no08:13
makuseruheres what im trying to do08:14
makuserui have an anime with a song in it i want, i want to just dump the audio from that one portion out08:14
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raylu...get an ost?08:15
vzduchdump it all, fire up Audacity & cut the song out (or rather everything else; you can invert the marking08:15
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makuseruraylu: there isnt an ost for it08:16
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rayluname of the anime/song?08:16
vzduchah, the city cleanup company & their sweeping machine.. you can adjust your watch after its appearance ;)08:16
makuseruvzduch: i can never get audacity to work08:16
makuseruraylu: its Beck: Mongolian Chop Squad, they have a ost for the japanese version, but i want a song from the english dub08:17
forceholas :)08:17
rayluew. that's disgusting.08:17
rayluan english dub :P08:17
makuserui usually have the same opnion about that08:17
forcetodos hablan ingles ?08:18
forceninguno espaol ?08:18
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makuserubut the japanese version, they try to speak english, so it ends up being engrigh and horrible08:18
vzduch!es | force_08:18
ubotuforce_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.08:18
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vzduchde nada08:19
rayluactually...those just happen to be either08:19
rayluwords that they have incorporated into their language08:19
rayluor words in english that don't translate08:19
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makuseruit is them trying to sing in all english08:19
rayluor...that =\08:19
makuseruits horrible08:19
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makuseruyou would just have to hear it to see what i mean08:20
rayluok, agreed =\08:20
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raylui know what you're talking about08:20
makuseruthat and FLCL are the only dubbed animes worth watching08:20
rayluflcl scares me; are you going to use vzduch's solution?08:20
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makuseruraylu: im going to try to get audacity to work again, but i doubt it will08:22
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qlrhello, how do i install wine?08:29
raylusudo aptitude install wine08:29
qlrcant finde it in Adept Manager, also tryed sudo apt-get install wine08:29
qlrraylu: will try, thx08:29
rayluer...then it won't work08:29
rayluand you need to update your repositories08:30
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sources.lst - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:30
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu08:30
qlri have all Repositories (multiverse too) enabled in Adept08:30
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org08:31
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qlrvzduch: will try thx08:31
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vzduchwine is in Universe though08:31
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)08:32
qlrokay, how do i add a repository?08:33
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vzduchthere are several ways.. one is editing /etc/apt/sources.list08:33
dotzhi how do i find out which are the repository are available for etch, sg servers?08:34
vzduchdotz: try in ##debian08:34
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aznpridechineseneed help, trying to play the harry potter dvd but kaffine is giving me an error08:36
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs08:36
qlrvzduch: i belive i installed the medibuntu repositoryes, but still no wine :(08:36
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vzduchqlr: as I said, it's in Universe08:37
aznpridechinesei already have libdvdcss2 installed08:37
qlrvzduch: universe is enabled08:37
vzduchthen it should be there08:37
vzduch<-- gotta run to work.. wish you a peaceful Friday the 13th :)08:37
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qlri get: libwine, libwine-dev and winefish nothing else :(08:38
qlranyone here would like to help me to install wine?08:38
aznpridechinesewill gxine work in kde?08:39
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dotzhow do u monitor a file's size growing? is there a command to do that.. i remember its watch or something but forgot08:41
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rayluwatch --help08:42
phoenixzHi there! I have a kubuntu installation with 3 audio devices: one onboard audio (not using it, cable cant reach there yet :) ), one usb audio stick (using that one for my stereo) and one usb phone.. Im using amarok with ALSA, but I have no sound! :( Who can help me to fix this?08:43
qlrneed help getting wine...08:43
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rayluqlr, pastebin your sources.list?08:44
raylui g2g =\08:44
SyntuxI'm using ubuntu and would like to try kubuntu, is it safe just to apt-get kubuntu-desktop ? try it out and then remove it ?08:44
qlrraylu: argh08:44
qlrhave a nice day08:44
aruni just figured out how to import from thunderbird to kmail and vice versa.. linux is so cool08:44
qlrANYONE wanna08:44
qlr(sorry, bad enter usage) help me to get wine running?08:45
arunit's so easy to import and export emails without losing things, across platforms and applications08:45
arunusing open formats08:45
phoenixzarun, about kmail, its kind of unstable here.. in 3 days using it I have had like 5 crashes.. is that normal for kmail?08:45
arunphoenixz: i haven't used it a lot, man.. just playing around with it08:46
phoenixzMe too so far, got tired of the quirks of thunderbird but now it seems that kmail isnt 100% ok either :(08:47
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arunha, i know what you mean08:47
arunwhat can you do08:47
phoenixzAnyway, if anybody could please help me with Amarok, thats my big problem right now :)08:47
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arunWhat's up?08:48
phoenixzardchoille, I could put up some music.. if my sound would work :)08:48
phoenixzarun, just that.. I have no sound.. firefox gives no sound (youtube for example), amarok nothing, etc..08:48
phoenixzso actually, its not amarok.. its more the entire sound system08:48
arunwas your sound working before?08:48
aruni mean was it working before and suddenly stopped working? or did it never work?08:49
solid_liqanyone know if there are packages I can install for the latest kde 4 alpha on feisty?08:50
phoenixzarun, dunno... installed kubuntu like 3 days ago and never had time to check sound yet until now.. so no it never worked yet08:50
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KevInAlaskaHowdy Folks... Might I ask a question on how to get that weather applet I use to have in KDE.  That was another install that I had it but same kubuntu feisty version though.08:51
solid_liqKevInAlaska: right click on kicker, Add applet to panel, then click get new stuff08:52
solid_liqKevInAlaska: or uh, apt-get install kweather maybe08:52
solid_liqKevInAlaska: I thought they'd integrated get new stuff into the applet menu already, sorry08:53
KevInAlaskaahhh.. the add button is greyed out, must be why missed it when I was looking for it.  why would it be grayed out, any ideas?08:53
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KevInAlaskaand thank you for the good feed back08:53
arunphoenixz: did you check if the sound was working when you booted the livecd?08:54
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arunAnyone using VMWare here?08:54
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solid_liqKevInAlaska: it's greyed out just because you don't have anything selectec08:56
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solid_liqKevInAlaska: er, selected08:57
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KevInAlaskaahhh.. okay thank you solid_liq .. cheers mate. :)08:58
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whippydoes someone know "dvb-utils"?09:04
whippyi cant use it...09:04
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phoenixzarun, nope, haven't checked.. I had fedora installed before and though problematic, sound worked.. I heard kubuntu sound should be better but its very quiet here09:05
phoenixzarun,  I have used vmware, but on fedora09:05
phoenixzAnybody who could help me with sound problems in kubuntu? The problem being.. eh.. that there is none, its quiet..09:07
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about time - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:08
dotzwhat's that thing that auto update time09:08
phoenixzdotz, ntp services you mean?09:09
dotzAHHH thx09:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ntpdate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:09
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phoenixzdotz, Id say, use the adept manager to search for ntp09:11
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dotzi have ntpdate but i don't know how to add a time server or let it auto update every time..hmm09:13
whippydoes someone know, how to run dvb-s uncomplicatedly?09:13
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dotz13 Jul 23:13:09 ntpdate[4141] : no servers can be used, exiting09:13
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ubotuFor information on KDE 4 (not to be released for quite some time yet), see: http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html. Also worth checking are: appeal/phonon/plasma/solid.kde.org09:17
rohanis there some problem with the "Kubuntu Hardware Database" program ? all hdb's that i send using that program are listed as interim .. e.g. http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/?xml=95fa009ef390709fc17a743cc38d5942 and http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/?xml=4eebe92a8e973ae9122d74f6e476d5eb09:17
ninHerhi all09:17
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phoenixzHey all, how do I specify that a certain ALSA device must be used in for example amarok?09:19
arunif i find any GPL artwork, can i use it on a web site?09:19
AmyRosephoenixz: You could try creating a .asoundrc09:19
rohanarun: yes. and this is not the place to ask this question ..09:21
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arunalright, sorry09:21
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phoenixzAmyRose, with what in it?09:31
phoenixzAmyRose, Should sound not work out of the box? I have 4 audio devices and no sound..09:31
rohancan someone please give me the output of "ls /etc/init.d/hal*" on an up-to-date feisty system ? thanks ..09:31
rohani am trying to debug a problem that is occuring on my system ..09:32
phoenixzrohan, /etc/init.d/halt09:32
rohanphoenixz: that's all ?09:32
phoenixzrohan, yeah, sorry to disappoint you :)09:33
rohanthanks phoenixz .. then it's surprising that there is no entry listed for hal09:33
rohanhow would one control hal on a ubuntu feisty system, then ?09:33
rohanand i think it's a problem in the updated packages09:33
phoenixzrohan, not sure.. I do remember toying with HAL on Fedora, still having nightmares..09:33
phoenixzspecially when it finally worked on FC5.. then FC6 came and hal was completely different :)09:34
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waylandbillphoenixz: put the name of the device in the sound system's, hardware tab under Override Device Location in system settings09:36
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rohanphoenixz: the live cd has scripts to control hal. the updated packages remove it.09:37
rohanthe updated packages in -backports09:37
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phoenixzwaylandbill,what name would I put there? hw=3,0?09:37
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snipexwhere can i set that kde doesnt restore my previous session ?09:38
waylandbillphoenixz: /dev/dsp or one of the other dsp devices.09:38
clouder_system setting -> advanced -> sessions I think09:38
snipexok ty09:38
phoenixzsimpul, helly to you too09:39
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ttfhi.. where can I find documentation for kubuntu-feisty? on http://kubuntu.org/documentation.php I can only see the docs for edgy09:39
waylandbillphoenixz: device location refers to a device node in /dev.09:39
ttfI am looking for the docs preferably in german09:39
imoI want to install Adobe Acrobatreader in kde. Anybody knows if there is a kubuntu package for it so I can install using Adept Manager?09:40
snipexclouder_ i dont see any 'Advanced' icon09:40
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clouder_snipex: it's a tab09:40
phoenixzId just like to take a peek at the new kde4.. Could I simply install it with adept, take a look, and then remove it again later?09:41
snipexi dont see it09:41
phoenixzWITHOUT risk of breaking my machine?09:41
clouder_snipex: up top there aren't two tabs one that says General and another that says Advanced?09:42
snipexStart > System Settings > ?09:42
snipexno there arent09:42
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clouder_anyone know the console command to pull up the session settings dialog?09:44
imoIs anybody using Adobe Acrobatreader in kubuntu here? If so, how did you install it?09:45
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phoenixzwaylandbill, Just configured that.. nothing happens09:45
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phoenixzwaylandbill, the devices are there, they are not muted (checked that with alsamixer), but there is no sound09:46
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waylandbillphoenixz: did the sound system restart when you configured that?09:46
phoenixzI think it did.. let me try that again to be sure09:47
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ubotucron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm09:48
phoenixzwaylandbill, sound system restarted (or it said so) when I pressed apply in sound system system, settings, hardware.. Then I went to General, pressed "Test sound" and heard nothing again09:48
dotzwhy is it crontab -l gives me no crontab for root .. when /etc/crontab have some things?09:49
imook, question asked in a different way. How do I setup Adept Manager to find proprietary software as well? (such as adobe acroread and opera)09:49
Lynouredotz: because you have no crontab for root but do have stuff in /etc/crontab :)09:49
phoenixzwaylandbill, hey, the "test sound" works! Hah!09:50
Lynouredotz: quite normal situation, that.09:50
phoenixzwaylandbill, but amarok is still quiet..09:50
dotzLynoure: so will those things in /etc/crontab be running?09:50
phoenixzgetting closer..09:50
phoenixzand closer...09:50
dotzi'm abit confused now.. the guides ask me to add the commands in crontab -e09:50
phoenixzwaylandbill, kde is also giving sound now09:50
waylandbillphoenixz: try closing amarok all the way down?09:50
Lynouredotz: yes.09:51
dotzbut i realise /etc/crontab is there.. wouldn't that be double job09:51
Lynouredotz: not really, because the systemwide crontab can take the user parameter09:51
dotzlet's say i used crontab -e and add something.. where is this file?09:52
Lynouredotz: root's own crontab is just that user's crontab. But, yeah, for clarity's sake many people use just the systemwide one.09:52
phoenixzwaylandbill, I set amarok to auto detect and now there is sound!09:52
phoenixzgreat! thanks!09:52
waylandbillnot a problem09:53
waylandbillanother satisfied customer. ;-)09:53
arunis there any app that opens ico files09:53
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phoenixzwaylandbill, errr.. same problem still persists with firefox.. :) youtube does not give audio.. would you happen to know.. ?09:53
snipexChoose K-Menu->System Settings->User Account from the Desktop Menu System. Click the Session Manager button on the left. Ensure that the Restore manually saved session checkbox is enabled.09:54
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snipexand i found session manager in KDE Components !!!!09:54
Lynouredotz: /var/spool/cron/crontabs09:55
phoenixzwaylandbill, I am VERY satisfied with kubuntu.. :) ex-fedora, but very much not complaining about it :) Its just that linux audio really could/should be a bit better.. its always so complex, and not really out of the box09:55
Lynouredotz: see   man crontab  for more fun info09:55
dotzLynoure: let's say i want to add a new task daily like ntpdate , i create a +x file in /etc/cron.daily ?09:55
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waylandbillphoenixz: I don't know where flash reads it's sound configuration from. Once you find that, you'll be home free.09:55
Lynouredotz: that's how I'd do it :)09:55
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waylandbillphoenixz: I couldn't bring myself to like FC, but it was at 3 or 4 when I last tried. As for the audio, it's hard when you have more than one device. It doesn't really know which one you want.09:56
waylandbillphoenixz: most of the time /dev/dsp is sufficient since most laptops and desktops only have one output device.09:57
phoenixzwaylandbill, it would be nice if there was like this standard audio card selector that programs could implement.. then for each sound enabled program you could just select "card 3 for this one" and card 2 for that one09:58
phoenixzwaylandbill, I have 4 :) disaster strikes!09:58
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phoenixzAnybody who could help me with fixing audio on Firefox?10:01
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waylandbillphoenixz: I'm not sure windows programs have a 'standard' way. Every program has it's own special way to select a mixer device there too.10:02
arunis there any app that opens .ico files?10:03
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phoenixzwaylandbill, does windows even support multiple audio devices? :)10:04
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waylandbillphoenixz: sure it does. I used to record multiple audio conversations to hard drive using multiple devices under windows.10:05
waylandbillphoenixz: flash uses Enlightened or OSS. You'll have to configure one (or both) of those.10:06
phoenixzwaylandbill, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20402210:07
phoenixzbless the day that flash will start using ALSA.. ESD is not even supported anymore, is it?10:07
waylandbillphoenixz: you're lucky flash is even supported under linux. Adobe didn't seem to care for the longest time.10:08
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phoenixzwaylandbill, I know... But I think linux is not to be ignored anymore.. it was about time too10:08
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LopinOkay...  Not that urgent, but I am getting mad...10:15
rohanLopin: what is the problem /10:15
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LopinKay...  I want to install Kubuntu, but can't boot off of my cd drive, cause it's busted up.  Can't boot off of the external, cause it's usb.  Can't get any boot floppies, or grub to work right...10:16
LopinI'm still new to linux, so I might just be too much of a n00b to get this right...10:17
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SlimeyPeteLopin: to be honest, it sounds like you're out of options. Getting hold of a replacement drive would probably be your best bet.10:18
LopinTried...  My computer manufacturer, Medion, used a proprietary drive, that they don't manufacture anymore...10:19
waylandbillLopin: CD drives are rather cheap. Pop in a new one if you have an IDE channel open.10:19
LopinI'd like some help with the idea of boot floppies, cause all I've found instruction-wise, just confuses me, so I just probably didn't make them right...10:19
ColdNunyamy question is about detecting newly plugged in USB-HDD's.10:19
ColdNunyain ubuntu\kubuntu10:19
waylandbillLopin: ah. :-)10:20
ColdNunyai've tried the dmesg | last10:20
ColdNunyaand sudo /etc/init.d/udev restart10:20
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LopinDoes anyone know how to make a boot floppy?10:20
waylandbillLopin: anything you find on booting from floppies is so outdated that it wouldn't be of much use.10:21
ColdNunyai've got a [/]  a [swap]  and 2x NTFS partitions10:21
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LopinOkay...  I did find something, that put GRUB on my windows partition, and had me modify my boot.ini file to launch it...  But when I went' to select it off of the boot menu, windows said that it needed to be reinstalled...10:22
LopinCould I have done something wrong?10:22
ColdNunyaanyone have a suggestion on mounting usb devices, or at least know the naming scheme10:22
waylandbillLopin: if you know someone with a desktop, you can get a 2.5->3.5 adapter for a couple dollars and use their desktop to get the system installed.10:22
ColdNunyafor the device10:22
ColdNunyamount -t vfat /dev/? /media/external10:23
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SlimeyPeteColdNunya: usually /dev/sd* for usb stuff,I think10:23
LopinWould that make it look like a standard IDE drive?  So, i could just install to the linux partition I've had sitting here for a few days?10:23
ColdNunyathats what i thought, but it detected my internal as sda110:23
SlimeyPeteColdNunya: yeah, that's normal10:24
SlimeyPetepretty much everything seems to be sd* these days10:24
LopinWhen I use Knoppix (or used, I should say) it called all my usb stuff usb(x)10:24
waylandbillLopin. Right. It would just look like another drive in the desktop.10:24
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LopinOkay guys...  Thanks for the help...10:26
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gunix[even|morn] ing10:33
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ColdNunyai have to restart to get it to get it to recognize10:34
gunixI have a question about sound / line-input10:34
ColdNunyai've tried mounting every sda* n DEV10:34
gunixor getting stereo sound to work with mic input ?10:35
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yeniklasorHow can I connect internet with Zoom ADSL USB Modem?10:35
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dotzi keep getting dpkg: error processing apache (--configure): in apt-get install apache10:36
dotzwhat should i do to clean it up? tried apt-get clean and apt-get autoclean10:36
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gunixI cannot get any sound when plugging a jack into line-input, mic works but is mono only.10:37
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clouderHow do I keep my monitors from turning off after 30 minutes?  guidance power-manager crashes at kde start so I can't access displaymanager.  Is there any config file I can edit or something just to make kde not turn my monitors off?10:42
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ColdNunyamount /media/EXTERNAL10:43
ColdNunyamount: according to mtab, /dev/sdb1 is already mounted on /media/EXTERNAL10:43
ColdNunyamount failed10:43
ColdNunyai rebooted it and it ended up being on sdB110:43
ColdNunyai'm sure i can mount it manualy now.10:44
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dotzCannot load /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so into server: /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory <-- why do i keep getting this while installing apache?10:49
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LopinAnyone heard of Wubi?10:53
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kuukkeliHello, i'm a linux newb. =) And i got few questions. :D10:57
kuukkelihow to update nvidia drivers and how to update my soundcards drivers10:59
kuukkeliCould somebody be helpful and tell me the answers or answer =D10:59
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kuukkelido you know how to update videocard and soundcard? =D11:03
kuukkelidrivers i mean11:03
kuukkelicould you help me? =)11:04
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FriKuukkeli: you could download ENVY from http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html11:08
kuukkeliFri, Thanks!11:09
kuukkeliFri, do you know anything about updating soundcard driver? =)11:09
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evekubuntuanyone here play eve online11:13
evekubuntuvia kubuntu11:13
evekubuntui have it all going well except the sound11:13
FriKuukkeli: which soundcar are u using?11:14
evekubuntui set winecfg to use OSS .. and it works fine, till it crashes11:14
evekubuntu(the audio starts putting out pure static11:14
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Lynoureevekubuntu: heh, I even had that in Windows when I tried eve11:15
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evekubuntuLynoure: Brutal11:15
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evekubuntuI'm about to follow this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4475311:16
qlrnoob question: how do i change the resolutin?11:16
evekubuntuqlr kubuntu ? k menu / system settings11:16
evekubuntuor are you using nvidia drivers11:17
qlrevekubuntu: yep, it's kubuntu, i tryied that but i'm STILL in 1024x76811:17
evekubuntudid you install video drivers./11:17
qlrsort of......11:17
qlri installed it via the adept manager11:18
evekubuntualt-f2 run nvidia-settings11:18
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qlrit's nvidia yep11:18
evekubuntuyou will have to use the nvidia control panel to change resolution now11:18
evekubuntuonce installing driver11:18
evekubuntuto save it11:18
evekubunturun from terminal11:18
evekubuntusudo nvidia-settings11:18
xstI have a problem with the simpleviewer export plugin in gwenview: EXIF-rotated images are displayed correctly in both konqueror and gwenview but when I export them to simpleviewer they loose their rotation. It is like simpeviewer ignores exif rotation. Is that correct?11:19
evekubuntui can neither confirm or deny those acusations11:19
evekubuntugl to you sir11:20
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about luddite - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:22
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qlrthx for the help with the resolution :)11:27
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arunCan anyone tell me where the images for amarok (or any other app) are stored? icons, etc11:30
danyaapt-get -f install ? what does it stand for ?11:31
Ilokaasudanya: man apt-get11:32
Ilokaasu-f stands for fix install11:32
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solid_liqhey, check this out:  http://freshmeat.net/projects/konsoledcopscheme/11:32
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danyathank u :)11:32
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pagarun, /usr/share/apps/amarok/images/  <- amarok has its default icon-scheme there11:35
arunpag: thanks a lot11:35
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pagarun, dpkg -L nameoftheapp | grep whatever  can really be a friend ;)11:35
arunpag: thank you!11:36
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arunif i wanted to use the cdcover image on a website, would i be allowed to do so? i know this is offtopic, but just asking11:37
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pagarun, read about Fair Use  on Wikipedia11:39
arunalright, thanks11:39
arunalso, could you give me parameters for grep 'whatever'11:39
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pagarun, ie.  grep png   or grep -i driver   depends really on what you need11:40
arunalright, thanks11:41
pagnp :)11:41
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arunthis may be off topic as well, but would it be possible to obtain high res vector files of the standard icons that come with ubuntu?11:45
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sscotteverything is great, suspend/hibernate work now11:46
sscottbut my power button doesn't bring up a menu11:46
stdinarun: kubuntu uses (mostly) the standard KDE icons, called crystalsvg. You can ask in #kde where these are from, or in #kubuntu-devel . they should point you in the right direction11:47
sscottmy acpi scripts in /etc look okay..11:47
arunthank you stdin11:47
sscottsame with the events in /etc/acpi11:47
sscottpowebtn.sh looks okay11:47
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sscottthis is the last thing i need to get working :(11:48
dvmWhen i use the libmtp functions in glade2 , it shows "undefined reference to `LIBMTP_Get_Connected_Devices'", Is there anything to specify in linker options?11:49
sscottokay first off you should be able to help me. secondly that is not a kubuntu question11:50
sscottcan i somehow link _buttonpressed_ to "logoutmenu"11:50
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sscottdvm: do you have libmtp-dev11:51
sscottprolly need libmtp*11:52
sscottprolly need libmtp*whatnot11:52
dvmsscott, ya, i have installed11:52
sscott;] 11:52
sscottsounds crashing on me in wine11:53
sscotton one computer11:53
sscottpower button on this laptop doesn't do anything11:53
sscotti'm about to switch distros again11:53
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sscottwhat command activates the shutdown menu12:04
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RivaeAeryawhere do i download additional extensions and viewing profiles for Konqueror?12:13
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pagRivaeAerya, umm... kde-look.org / kde-apps.org  maybe?12:16
RivaeAeryapag: nope.12:17
RivaeAeryaat least not kde-look12:17
pagRivaeAerya, yeah.. probably not it, but kde-apps might be the one...12:18
RivaeAeryapag: noper12:18
pagRivaeAerya, hmm... could you be more specific on what you're looking for?12:18
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RivaeAeryapag: Viewing profiles, like pre-set profiles for splitted browsing. for example the Midnight Commander profile etc etc.12:20
RivaeAeryaKonqueror -> Settings -> Profiles12:20
paghmm... I don't know where to get them, but they're quite easy to add / customise manually12:23
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losinmemy power button doesn't do anything anymore12:30
losinmehow do i get it to bring the logout/shutdown menu12:30
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crazy_busa program in fullscreen crashed and now the resolution is suddley huge and I have to pan across the screen with my mouse.  Is there anyway to fix this problem without restarting since I'm currently downloading a file that can't be resumed12:33
pagcrazy_bus, ctrl+alt+"+" or ctrl+alt+"-"  might work...12:33
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fotoflohey, i got a question, every time KDE starts up, it runs a bunch of programs... how do i configure the startup process?12:37
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crazy_busI tried ctrl+alt+ + that but unfortunalty but unfortunatly it froze the computer12:40
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pagcrazy_bus, sorry to hear that :(12:41
losinmecrazy_bus:  you running nvidia12:41
losinmecrazy_bus: alt-f2  nvidia-settings12:42
crazy_busIs ctrl+alt+f7 the correct way to get back to gui mode after using ctrl+alt+f1 to get to the terminal to kill a frozen process12:43
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fotoflohey, im running kubuntu and every time i start kde, a certain group of processes start - how do i configure this?12:44
arunkalego to system settings12:45
losinmecrazy_bus:  if it works, yep12:46
arunkalesystem settings > advanced tab > services12:46
arunkalesorry service manager12:46
fotofloarunkale, ok, i am there already12:46
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fotoflobut there is some stuff happening thats not going on there12:46
arunkalelike what12:47
fotoflokde is starting konversation, 2 konsole's and firefox12:47
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fotoflodo i need dbus?12:47
fotoflowhat does dbus do?12:47
losinmemy powerbutton isn't showing up as a key. it's keyboard identifier is 22212:48
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losinmehow can i link keyboard id # 222 to a key12:48
losinmeor specifically to the shutdown/logout menu12:48
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arunkalefotoflo: were those windows open the lsat time you shut down?12:48
fotofloeven if they were, i dont want them open next time i restart12:48
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arunkalefotoflo: go to system settings > advanced > session manager12:50
arunkalein the 'on login' section, choose the appropriate setting you want12:50
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fotofloin the kde control center?12:51
arunkalefotoflo: system settings > advanced tab > session manager12:51
adrian_any1 had any luck running berylwith ATI drivers?12:52
fotofloarunkale, cool thanks!12:52
arunkalefotoflo: anytime12:53
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adrian_can some1help me out a bit with beryl?12:54
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arunkaleadrian_: i just installed it w/ nvidia yesterday12:55
adrian_i got ATI12:55
SlimeyPeteI'm running it with ATI12:55
SlimeyPetehad to replace the X server.12:55
adrian_i installed  XGL created XGL session and whenever i run beryl-manager screen just goes black and all i  see is mouse pointer12:56
SlimeyPeteyou're using the fglrx drivers, yes?12:56
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arunkaleadrian_: check this out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beryl/ATI/Feisty?highlight=%28beryl%2912:56
arunkalethat should do it12:57
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adrian_see i followed those.12:58
fotoflohttp://pastebin.com/m3367a73    <  my ps aux after a fresh reboot12:58
adrian_it seems everything is working except that the screen is all black12:58
fotofloits about a mile long... why?12:58
fotofloafter a fresh reboot i am using 497000k ram12:59
SlimeyPetethat's a bit nuts12:59
fotoflohow can i fix that?12:59
fotofloim not really running any software either12:59
stdinfotoflo: how much is cached?01:00
fotofloMem:    767552k total,   496852k used,   270700k free,    14692k buffers01:00
fotofloSwap:  1614492k total,        0k used,  1614492k free,   267640k cached01:00
stdinfotoflo: and 101 processes isn't much, I have 135 atm01:00
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stdinAt The Moment01:01
kuukkelihow to make C: and D: ?01:01
kuukkelineed those for Wine01:01
stdinkuukkeli: this isn't windoes01:01
fotoflostdin: are you doing anything right now? cause im not01:01
kuukkelistdin, i know. :D01:01
SlimeyPetekuukkeli: your C drive is in ~/.wine/drie_c01:01
SlimeyPeteit's just a folder01:01
kuukkelistdin, could you help me how to install wine properly?01:01
fotoflostdin: ive got xirc, console and firefox open, thats it01:01
SlimeyPetewhich Wine pretends is drive C01:01
stdinkuukkeli:  run winecfg to set up wine01:02
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kuukkelistdin, and that's in wine folder where i extracted it?01:02
stdinkuukkeli: No! don't compile wine, install the package01:02
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SlimeyPetewhy did you extract it? Wine is available via Adept or apt-get.01:02
stdinfotoflo: I have a few apps running, but ~100 is normal for these days01:03
kuukkeliwell, i used the pack manager to DL it01:03
kuukkeliit's installed01:03
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.01:03
SlimeyPetekuukkeli: ok. So go to a terminal and type winecfg01:03
fotoflostdin: so i shouldnt worry about it?01:03
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fotoflowhy am i running kblluetoothd01:04
stdinfotoflo: no, it all looks like normal stuff in your ps output01:04
stdinfotoflo: because it's installed by default01:04
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fotofloill kill bluetoothd, but most of the stuff is ok?01:05
kuukkeliSlimeypete, can i just use run command? =D01:05
nathanhi people01:06
stdinfotoflo: yeah, if you want to get more advanced, you can look in System Settings -> System Services (and Service Manager) to set what starts and what doesn't01:06
fotoflodoing that right now01:07
fotoflowhat file does that program edit?01:07
SlimeyPetekuukkeli: yes01:07
NickPrestaYou may also want to install BUM (Boot Up Manager) and disable specific things from starting up (I like BUM more than System Services in KControl)01:07
kuukkelistdin, okay, i've done the configuration01:07
kuukkeliwhat now?01:07
stdinfotoflo: several, mostly links in /etc/rc?.d/01:07
stdinkuukkeli: start a windows application and see if it works, like winebrowser for a test01:08
kuukkelistdin, the command is wine winebrowser.exe?01:08
stdinfotoflo: but be careful in there, if you don't know what it is, don't disable it01:08
wepihahow can I get stereo input from my line-in or mic?01:08
stdinkuukkeli: no, just winebrowser01:08
kuukkelii just type winebrowser01:09
nathanOk, is  anyone good with DVD or TV cards?01:09
stdinkuukkeli: yeah01:09
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kuukkelinothing happened01:09
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kuukkelishall i check more the winecfg? =)01:09
stdinkuukkeli: heh, 'winefile' not 'winebrowser', I haven't used wine in a while01:10
kuukkelioh. :o01:10
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kuukkeliokay, it opened01:11
kuukkeliwhat next? XD01:11
kuukkelihelp the noob to upgrade to novice (will take a while as usual)01:11
stdinkuukkeli: if that works then you can try running a windows application, with: wine WinApp.exe01:11
stdinkuukkeli: where WinApp.exe is a real exe file01:11
nathanis  anyone good with DVD or TV cards?01:11
kuukkelistdin, so i download some .exe and launch it?01:12
kuukkeliand if it works then i'm off to go?01:12
stdinkuukkeli: yeah, but some will work and some won't01:12
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stdinkuukkeli: it's a bit hit and miss with wine01:12
kuukkelii'll start by trying steam. =D01:12
fotoflowhats atd?01:13
fotofloerr nevermind01:14
fotoflothanks man atd01:14
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kuukkelistdin, works. :P01:15
kuukkelitried wih foobar ;D01:15
nathanhello there nosred01:15
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_Shade_hi there01:16
_Shade_does anyone know any good c64 emulator for ubuntu?01:16
nosrednaekimhello nathan01:17
nosrednaekimnathan: you the RC guy?01:17
nathannos how i register so i can PM you? yeah I am01:17
pag!register | nathan01:17
ubotunathan: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration01:17
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nathanty pag01:17
nosrednaekimnathan: any luck with any RC sims in Linux?01:17
nosrednaekimI tryedFMS, that doesn't work.01:17
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nathanquite honestly I still dont have DVD and tv card working properly yet... llo01:18
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nathanI left it for a while, I've came back on today to give it another shot01:18
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nosrednaekimah.... ok01:19
nathan1 min01:19
nosrednaekimnathan: ok, so you can'tplay DVD's....do you have libdvdcss2?01:19
fotoflois there a good OSS video editor that can put subtitles and write output files in premier or FCP format?01:19
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webbhostthink iv registered it.. but its diferent name now, im nathan01:21
webbhostnosred can ya goto pvt chat?01:21
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nosrednaekimfotoflo: kino maybe?01:22
nosrednaekimIDK,never looked01:22
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=== eboxnet hello ppl
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fotoflonosrednaekim, ill check it out, thanks01:24
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wepiha_sound issue: line-input is not working, I have checked volume, muting,  and record source but still no sound...01:32
wepiha_I created the file /etc/modules.d/sound   and added the line    options snd_ymfpci rear_switch=(bool)0|1 with no success01:33
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nosrednaekimhow about line-in boost?01:33
wepiha_there is an option for mic boost but that works only for the mic01:34
nosrednaekimwebbhost: ah.01:34
Lucifer   ??? ))01:34
wepiha_I have tried most of the switches available in kmix, including adjusting every input/output01:34
nosrednaekimI've never done recording by line-in, I just do MIC-in01:35
nosrednaekimwepiha_: make sure you have all the channels being deisplayed, right click on kmix-> channels01:35
wepiha_17 output options, 18 input options and 13 switches01:35
wepiha_I have toggled, unmuted, remuted, set record sources and tried almost many combinations in the switches area01:36
wepiha_*almost ALL01:36
nosrednaekimone thing I have found is that a channel isn't always named sorrectly.01:36
stdin!ru | Lucifer01:37
ubotuLucifer:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke01:37
wepiha_indeed, as above I have tried FM legacy, Line, CD, Mic, Video, Phone, IEC985x2, Aux, Capture, ADCx2, Digitalx201:37
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wepiha_and the various 3d controls01:37
wepiha_my best guess is that it is assuming surround sound (5.1 maybe) and using the line-input as the rear surround speakers01:38
wepiha_however the module option did not appear to fix anything01:38
wepiha_root@pointfivezero:~# modinfo snd_ymfpci01:39
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs01:39
wepiha_filename:       /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/sound/pci/ymfpci/snd-ymfpci.ko01:39
wepiha_license:        GPL01:39
wepiha_description:    Yamaha DS-1 PCI01:39
wepiha_author:         Jaroslav Kysela <perex@suse.cz>01:39
wepiha_srcversion:     48E659DB7AAB2E2A793620501:39
wepiha_alias:          pci:v00001073d00000012sv*sd*bc*sc*i*01:39
wepiha_alias:          pci:v00001073d00000010sv*sd*bc*sc*i*01:39
stdin!paste | wepiha_01:39
ubotuwepiha_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:39
wepiha_alias:          pci:v00001073d0000000Csv*sd*bc*sc*i*01:39
wepiha_alias:          pci:v00001073d0000000Asv*sd*bc*sc*i*01:39
wepiha_alias:          pci:v00001073d0000000Dsv*sd*bc*sc*i*01:40
wepiha_alias:          pci:v00001073d00000004sv*sd*bc*sc*i*01:40
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wepiha_depends:        snd-pcm,snd-page-alloc,snd-opl3-lib,snd-mpu401-uart,snd,snd-timer,gameport,snd-ac97-codec01:40
wepiha_vermagic:       2.6.20-16-generic SMP mod_unload01:40
wepiha_parm:           index:Index value for the Yamaha DS-1 PCI soundcard. (array of int)01:40
wepiha_parm:           id:ID string for the Yamaha DS-1 PCI soundcard. (array of charp)01:40
wepiha_parm:           enable:Enable Yamaha DS-1 soundcard. (array of bool)01:40
wepiha_parm:           mpu_port:MPU-401 Port. (array of long)01:40
wepiha_parm:           fm_port:FM OPL-3 Port. (array of long)01:40
wepiha_parm:           joystick_port:Joystick port address (array of long)01:40
wepiha_parm:           rear_switch:Enable shared rear/line-in switch (array of bool)01:40
wepiha_*** SORRY! ***01:40
wepiha_noted :)01:40
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Lucifer   ???01:46
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snowdonkeyHi.  How do I type accented characters?01:49
kuukkelihow to make ventrilo work properly?01:50
kuukkelidont got codecs to talk. :|01:50
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solid_liqhey, check this out:  http://freshmeat.net/projects/konsoledcopscheme/01:51
wepihawhere can I find log files for modprobe ?01:52
wepihaor log files for update-modules?01:52
nosrednaekimin /var/log/messages01:52
stdinsolid_liq: stop spamming the channel01:52
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ubotu   #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke01:54
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Lucifer   !!!01:54
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kuukkeliENGLISH PLEASE01:54
Luciferwho change01:55
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LynoureLucifer: just ask your question.01:57
wepihais it possible to enable stereo input from mic?01:57
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stdinmics are mono by nature01:57
wepihahmm if only line-input would work :(01:58
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wepiha<-- going to prove its operation windows xp :(01:59
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rodrigo_someone knows a better server in Brazil after Brasnet?02:01
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D-O-Cund was gibts hier so ???02:02
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NastXi need your help with the nvidia driver and glx in kubuntu02:07
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chipshey anyone from nz here?02:12
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arunkalehey danya02:18
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danyaumm I got a problem when updating ,. I got the update icon adn when I run it i get this :software index is broken02:18
danyaI run install -f and also got a problem02:18
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arunkaledayna: looking into your problem02:21
arunkalehold on02:22
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arunkalewhat were you trying to update02:22
arunkalejust the regular software updates?02:22
danyasince I can't install anything untill I get the updates02:23
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stefan_feilmeierHello. I'm running a Ubuntu Feisy server with kernel linux-image-2.6.20-16-server but I cannot find a restricted-modules package for it.02:23
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stefan_feilmeierIs it possible that there are no restricted-modules available for the server kernels?02:24
AmyRosestefan_feilmeier: I'll look and see for you02:25
arunkaledanya: can you paste what you get when you install -f02:25
stefan_feilmeierthanks... :)02:25
arunkaledayna: paste it at http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org02:25
stdinstefan_feilmeier: yeah, only for -generic -386 and -lolatency02:25
AmyRoseok, never mind02:25
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stefan_feilmeierso what can i do? Either install a generic kernel or build the needed module myself?!02:26
AmyRosestefan_feilmeier: What module do you need?02:26
arunkaledayna: you there?02:26
danyaarunkale .. It's installing now lol02:26
arunkalestarted working?02:26
stefan_feilmeierfcpci for my Fritz!Card02:27
danyaarunkale : yea where it stopped .. I think a connection time out or something02:27
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arunkaleah ok02:27
danyaarunkale : thank u :)02:27
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arunkaleno problem02:28
stdinstefan_feilmeier: if you compile the module yourself then you'll need to recompile it for every kernel update too. So it's up to you to if you want to install the -generic one or not02:28
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stefan_feilmeierAmyRose: yes i know, that i would have to recompile all the time. Isn't it a bug that there is no restricted modules package for kernels? Shall i file a bug in Launchpad?02:29
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stdinstefan_feilmeier: it may or may not be a bug, you can ask on answers.launchpad.net or in the #ubuntu-kernel channel02:30
stefan_feilmeierAmyRose: ok, i'll do that. Thanks a lot!02:31
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AmyRosestefan_feilmeier: It was stdin who helped you02:31
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AmyRosestefan_feilmeier: You might also want to try out module-assistant though02:31
stefan_feilmeieroh... ;)02:32
AmyRoseI use it to build my TI calculator link cable drivers and the GSPCA webcam driver :)02:32
stefan_feilmeierSorry, still not really comfortable with IRC02:32
AmyRosestefan_feilmeier: Stick around. It's fun :)02:32
stefan_feilmeieri haven't found fcpci in m-a02:32
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stefan_feilmeierAmyRose: You connected your TI-calculator to your linux box?! ;)02:33
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AmyRosestefan_feilmeier: Yup. :)02:35
AmyRoseIt's the only way to get the games I need for math class on it :P02:35
AmyRosesince I do not have Windows=02:35
AmyRoseTiLP is nice :D02:36
stefan_feilmeierAmyRose: I guess i should have a look...02:36
stefan_feilmeierAmyRose: (un)fortunately I'm out of school... :)02:36
AmyRosestefan_feilmeier: Well, I'm going to be a teacher, so it is kinda important to me.02:37
AmyRoseYeah, a Linux user who is not going into IT or CS! =O02:37
stefan_feilmeierAmyRose: oh, so you're gonna be a math's teacher? Same as my sister...02:38
kuukkelihow to get microphone working? =D (Need GSM codecs and such for ventrilo. ;D )02:38
AmyRosestefan_feilmeier: Actually a special ed teacher.02:38
AmyRoseYou have to be good with multiple subjects to be one of those ;)02:39
stefan_feilmeierAmyRose: ok i see. BTW: I'm in IT of course02:39
AmyRoseI *was* in IT, but I hated it.02:40
AmyRoseToo much Windows.02:40
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stefan_feilmeierActually I just came home one week ago from a half year long internship in a free software company in bangalore, india02:41
AmyRose99% of what I do on my computer is non-geeky stuff though, and I find Linux to be easier to use than Windows for most things, to be honest.02:41
kuukkeliAmyRose, windows is easy. :D and there is no job what you love02:41
kuukkeliexpect scripting job if you love to make scripts02:41
AmyRosekuukkeli: Not really. On Linux, I do not have to use antivirus, no defragging, fsck only occasionally, don't need anti-spyware, don't need to worry about untrustworthy crap...02:42
kuukkeliAmyRose, true. :P02:42
AmyRoseand I really have fallen in love with the "run unprivileged" security model in Linux02:42
kuukkelibut to make all shit work is bit frustrating, after you get it work, then it's again Partytime :D02:42
kuukkeli1 thing i hate02:43
kuukkeliusually asks password for everything what i do ;P02:43
kuukkelilike adept manager02:43
AmyRoseSeriously, when trying to fix my mom's PC, I wanted so badly to just install Kubuntu on it02:43
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kuukkelibut then your mom is like "wut is tiz?!"02:44
AmyRosekuukkeli: Would you rather have it make you cancel or allow everything you do?02:44
stefan_feilmeierI'm always annoyed when I boot up my mom's PC. Everytime i start it I have to update firewall, antivirus, java, firefox,...02:44
germanjewhow do i register again?02:44
kuukkeliAmyRose, allow, yes, cancel, no!02:44
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AmyRosekuukkeli: If the password dialog pops up and I did not do anything that should cause it, I know I can safely cancel02:45
AmyRosekuukkeli: It does not prompt nearly as much as Vista does02:45
AmyRoseI heard Vista heckles you out of deleting your personal files even02:45
AmyRosestefan_feilmeier: I pretend to be ignorant when my family asks about Windows problems. Actually, for the most part, I really don't have an answer since I haven't used Windows in almost 3 years02:46
germanjewwhat is the command to register?02:47
stefan_feilmeierAmyRose: I wished I could do the same but as I am the "sysop" in my parents company... :(02:47
AmyRosestefan_feilmeier: The only thing I am tech support for is the Internet because I am the keeper of the router passwords and keys ;)02:48
AmyRoseand we have a WRT54G v3.0 that runs DD-WRT02:48
AmyRosestefan_feilmeier: Being tech support for that is not a big deal since it's just a Linux box :D02:49
stefan_feilmeierstefan_feilmeier: lucky you.02:49
AmyRosestefan_feilmeier: Do you like to talk to yourself?02:49
stefan_feilmeierAmyRose: oh... ehm... sometimes. But this one was by accident02:50
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AmyRosestefan_feilmeier: The only thing I help with on my mom's computer is total reinstallations... Everything else she handles.02:50
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stefan_feilmeierAmyRose: Problem is my mom doesn't know anything about computers. I really want to install ubuntu on her machine.02:51
AmyRoseAnd the only reason is that my stepdad unplugs the router, voip box, and cable modem when it's not working because he thinks it's going to blow up02:51
AmyRose(I'm not joking...)02:51
AmyRoseHe did that twice in the last month and it's not a trivial task to plug it all back in correctly02:52
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stefan_feilmeierAmyRose: hehe... these things seem to happen everywhere02:52
buzglue together the rj45 cables02:52
AmyRosestefan_feilmeier: That is why I do not want to go into IT02:52
AmyRosebuz: That might work...02:52
buzreally, superglue helps against the dumbest of users02:52
stefan_feilmeierAmyRose: I wouldn't want to be a support guy either02:52
AmyRoseI don't mind helping Linux users out02:53
buzyeah they are friendly02:53
buzand generally eager to learn02:53
AmyRoseLinux is a relatively easy OS to fix too02:53
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buznot always ;)02:53
stefan_feilmeierbuz: At least you have access to all log files and everything02:53
AmyRosebuz: It's not like Windows where 80% of the time the answer is to start over.02:53
buzthats true02:54
SlimeyPeteo/~ every OS waits your time, from the desktop to the lap... everything since the abacus is such a load of c***02:54
SlimeyPete^^ true02:54
stefan_feilmeierAmyRose: hmm... if you read howtos nowadays you'll find "reboot" quite often02:54
AmyRoseSlimeyPete: Huh?02:54
SlimeyPeteAmyRose: it's a lyric. I'm bored, and  thought it was vaguely pertinent to the convation ;)02:54
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AmyRosestefan_feilmeier: My Windows friends are often surprised that my uptime is often measured in weeks02:54
SlimeyPeteerm, conversation02:54
AmyRoseSlimeyPete: Konversation*02:55
SlimeyPetedon't swear ;p02:55
buzheck even on windows my uptime was measured in weeks02:55
AmyRosebuz: My friends normally have to reboot on a daily basis02:55
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buzin the hands of someone with a clue, win is ok02:55
buzbut the whole gui irrates me the longer, the more02:55
stefan_feilmeierAmyRose: So thanks to a missing restricted modules package for servers and therefor installing a generic kernel I have to restart my router now...02:56
AmyRosestefan_feilmeier: Sorry :(02:56
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stefan_feilmeierAmyRose: not your fault02:56
AmyRosebuz: The biggest problem I have with Windows is that I cannot trust Microsoft02:56
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stefan_feilmeierAmyRose: just wanted to say that I have to go offline... ;)02:56
runleveltenI always laugh when people claim lengthy uptime on windows machines.02:56
ksivajihi guys02:56
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buz(i would get a thinkpad if they came with international warranty, but alas, they dont)02:57
AmyRoserunlevelten: Don't some versions of Windows have epoch and timer wraparound problems?02:57
buzAmyRose: win98 yes02:57
runleveltenThey are either lying or not applying updates, haha.02:57
buz2K doesnt, for all i know02:57
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AmyRoseBut you're not supposed to know, buz. It's illegal to know. >:)02:58
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vzduchwth are you talking about? o002:58
AmyRoseWindows XP's EULA was what prompted me to change OSes02:58
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buzEULA basically arent valid in most places of the world02:59
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AmyRosebuz: But the thing that scares me is that the things the EULA makes you agree to would require Microsoft to have more power than the police and FBI. And I can't trust an OS that's supposed to let Microsoft spy on you.03:00
runleveltenOf course they're not, but the fact they try that makes it bad enough.03:00
buzwell given the choice, i dont use windows03:00
buzbut i dont always have the choice03:00
AmyRoseI never use Windows on my own equipment, and I take my laptop with me whenever possible.03:00
buz(technically my boss wouldnt mind if i installed linux on the work laptop, someone already did, but interfacing with the network would be kinda painful)03:01
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buzAmyRose: i usually have work laptop and personal laptop side by side at work03:01
AmyRoseWell, that's kinda the reason I do not want to go into IT.03:01
buzbut then again, i work at my uni so there's kinda special rules anyhow03:01
AmyRoseor CS03:01
buzCS has nothing at all to do with windows03:02
AmyRoseWell, I suck at programming.03:02
AmyRoseHow's that for a reason? :P03:02
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webbhostanyone know what i put into console to find out what tv card I have03:03
AmyRosewebbhost: If you need more info, you can do lspci -vvvv :D03:03
buztruth to be told, i didnt like what CS was about, not at all03:04
buzif you got any other interests that could make a career, it's probably better not to go into it03:04
buzmost it guys i know are electronic janitors more than anything else03:04
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buzboy i have bad lag03:04
webbhostits ok i got what i was after03:04
danya_have anyone here installed ubuntustudio ?03:05
webbhostPhilips Semiconductors SAA7133/SAA7135 Video Broadcaster - I got that and it displays TV in tv-time but theres no sound, I haven't tried installing proper drivers cause i dont know where to get them from... can anyone help?03:05
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webbhostty vzduch and amyrose btw03:06
AmyRosewebbhost: You're welcome03:07
vzduchdanya_: yes, why?03:07
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danya_vzduch : can't I just add the repos to ubuntu .. ?03:14
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vzduchthere's no repos to add, it's all in the repos you already have03:15
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danya_vzduch : so to get it I have to download and burn dvd ?03:16
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ksivaji !source-o-matic03:16
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic03:16
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ksivajidanya_ vzduch03:17
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vzduchdanya_: sudo aptitude install ubuntustudio-{addYourFavouriteFlavourHere} <-- for a list see aptitude search ubuntustudio03:18
vzduchksivaji: don't throw factoids in the room if you don't know what the talk is about ;)03:18
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eduardonice environment to talk03:27
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eduardoI'm really becoming a Ubuntu fan.03:27
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eduardoJust installed some unbelievable packages03:27
eduardothe desktop is amazing03:28
eduardothe editors are beautiful03:28
eduardoUbuntu rules03:28
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tzangerI'm still trying to figure out how Kubuntu-ified kontact cna be configured to leave my cursor at the TOP of the email when I reply -- I edit the quoted email to trim and it's a royal pain in the ass to go tothe top all the time03:29
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runleveltenarg... the default ffmpeg has no proper amr support03:31
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BluesKajMorning All :)03:32
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vzduchtzanger: you're not supposed to reply at the top of an email even though it's customary in today's business life03:33
tzangervzduch: oh I NEVER top post03:34
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tzangeras I said, I have the quoted text, and I trim the crap out of it, replying to each trimmed section03:34
tzangerI am a STRONG proponent of properly trimmed and quoted emails03:34
kuukkelihow do i get cedega work? =P03:34
vzduchah.. but what's the pain of going to the top? it's the press of 2 keys03:34
tzangervzduch: for the volume of email I work with, it's a pain in the ass03:35
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tzangerKontact/Kmail used to have the option03:35
tzangermaybe it's still there, just not brought out into the GUI configuration03:35
tzangerI'll ask on #kde03:35
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vzduchI don't find it either03:38
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kuukkeliHow to open .deb files?03:47
kuukkeliis it dpkg if it is, then guide me a bit03:47
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t2you install them with the package manager03:47
vzduchread 'man dpkg' :)03:47
kuukkelit2, oh.03:47
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kuukkeliThanks. =)03:48
t2i think you can do dpkg -i ".deb name" to install03:48
kuukkelit2, so i dont put .deb on the end?03:49
t2you do yes03:49
kuukkeliand do i have to put sudo on start?03:49
kuukkelisudo get me a sandwhich03:49
t2but first make sure you have all required dependecies03:49
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pagkuukkeli, either right-click on file and choose to install or command " sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb "03:49
kuukkelipag,i'll try the easy way first XD03:50
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pagand you can take care of depencies afterwards by typing " sudo apt-get install -f "03:51
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tiolajoin #caratinga04:01
snipexwhen im on specific site(http://www.avast.com/eng/avast-for-linux-workstation.html and some others) i see squares with letters in them on the page, whys that, i use konqueror and i got gnome and kde desktops, im using kde now04:02
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snipexanyone knows solution to that ?04:03
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snipexits solved by pressing ctrl again04:05
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AmyRosesnipex: That's Konqueror's AccessKey feature04:09
=== eboxnet hello..
AmyRosesnipex: There is a way to turn it off04:10
snipexhow ?04:10
snipexwhat is this acesskey ???04:10
snipexhow do i disable it ?04:11
AmyRosesnipex: Let me look it up, OK?04:11
AmyRosesnipex: ok, paste the following command into the Run dialog and hit OK: kwriteconfig --file khtmlrc --group "Access Keys" --key Enabled --type bool false04:12
AmyRoseOnce you do that, start Konqueror again and they should be turned off04:12
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snipexty very much04:13
AmyRoseI use Konqueror as my browser and so, yeah...04:13
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snipexi useD firefox04:13
AmyRosesnipex: Other hidden settings are available here: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Hidden%20configuration04:13
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AmyRoseBookmark that page :D04:13
snipexi got both kde and gnome but i used FF in win04:13
AmyRosesnipex: I prefer Konqueror because it's a lot faster than Firefox04:14
snipexthere is a way to speed up FF04:14
snipexi tried it but then i remembered im using konqueror04:15
AmyRoseI like Konqueror's built-in adblocker04:15
AmyRoseOh, another browser I recommend trying, if you don't mind closed-source software, is Opera04:15
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snipexi dont mind closed software04:15
AmyRoseIt's also lightning-fast but with better javascript support04:15
snipexbut i think i get some ads in konqueror04:16
snipexbut it might be FF not konqueror04:16
AmyRoseWell, Konqueror has an adblocker included, but you need to load a filterset04:16
snipexdont u think FF is more... hm.... stable04:17
AmyRoseActually, Opera went from being adware to including an adblocker :P04:17
snipexi mean04:17
snipextry going to www.armorgames.com04:17
snipexand try playing 1 game04:17
snipexand makin few other tabs04:17
snipexOpera was adware ?04:18
AmyRoseI often have over 20 tabs open04:18
AmyRoseyeah, Opera used to show ads unless you paid for it04:18
snipexi got just 512 mb ram so04:18
AmyRoseNow it's completely free as in beer now, so you don't have to worry about ads.04:18
snipexthat might be reasom04:18
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AmyRoseand it now includes a full-fledged adblocker04:18
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snipexwhat is 'kicker' ?04:19
AmyRoseyour panel04:19
AmyRosethe thing at the bottom of the screen if you didn't move it04:19
snipexK Menu ?04:19
AmyRoseIt contains the K menu04:19
snipexi get it04:19
AmyRoseYeah, Kicker is the panel04:19
snipexwhy is it called kicker ???04:20
AmyRoseMy favorite feature of Opera, besides its adblocker, is the "Create Search" feature. Just right-click in the search box on any site, and click Create Search to add it to your search menu04:20
snipexwhat are u using ? opera or konqueror ?04:20
AmyRosesnipex: I don't know why it's called Kicker. I didn't write it04:21
AmyRosesnipex: I switch between the two, and I also use Firefox 3.0a604:21
AmyRoseIn my opinion, Firefox 3.0a6 is better than 2.0 by leaps and bounds04:21
AmyRosein the areas of stability and speed04:21
snipex3.0 and 2.004:21
snipex3.0 is newer04:22
AmyRose3.0 is not released yet.04:22
AmyRoseI'm using the 6th alpha test version04:22
snipexwell yes04:22
snipexso it kinda is released04:22
AmyRose2.0 is what Edgy and Feisty have04:22
snipexi got dapper04:22
AmyRoseWhoa, Dapper?!04:22
snipexwhat do u have ?04:22
AmyRoseMy gosh, that's old!04:22
AmyRoseI am using Feisty with the latest KDE--3.5.704:23
snipexbut its LTS04:23
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AmyRoseWell, that doesn't matter. Linux development is FAST.04:23
snipexif im honest04:24
AmyRoseKonqueror in KDE 3.5.7 is a lot better than the one in Dapper04:24
snipexubuntu is my first distribution04:24
snipexwhen i selected it i didnt know exactly what all that means04:24
AmyRoseI typically recommend to newcomers to use Feisty04:24
snipexand i chose LTS04:24
snipexim usin dapper for a while now04:25
AmyRosewell, if you're happy with it, there's nothing wrong with that...04:25
snipexi am happy04:25
AmyRoseI don't mind upgrading every 6 months04:25
snipexbecause i dont know whats feisty like04:25
AmyRoseactually I upgrade a month early so I can beta test04:25
snipexi tough when u upgrade u have to reformat hard disk04:25
BluesKajAmyRose, what's the setting for konq to open my homwe page rather than a blank ? ...can't seem to find how to set it04:25
pagsnipex, dapper is stable and polished, feisty has all the new and shiny stuff, but it might be a little buggy sometimes :)04:25
AmyRosesnipex: No you don't need to reformat to upgrade.04:26
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AmyRoseSome people insist on doing it anyway, but it's not necessary04:26
pagBluesKaj, just go to the page you want and save the web-profile?04:26
snipexAmyRose : can i upgrade from dapper to feisty ?04:26
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snipexi didnt know04:26
AmyRosesnipex: Yes, but I think you have to upgrade to Edgy, then to Feisty.04:26
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pagBluesKaj, I'm not 100% sure on that, but it might work04:27
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AmyRoseI don't know if the next LTS release will let you upgrade to it from Dapper04:27
AmyRoseI would hope so04:27
pagAmyRose, it's *supposed* to allow it04:27
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AmyRosepag: It would suck to have to do like a 6 step upgrade or so :P04:27
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snipexAmyRose : how can i then upgrade to edgy and then feisty ?04:28
snipexand my programs will be ok ?04:28
pagAmyRose, indeed :) that's why I also hope, that 'shortcut'-upgrade would be possible04:28
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RivaeAerya In ktorrent, what should i set the UDP tracker port to? right now its 4444 but the main port is 6531204:29
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AmyRosesnipex: They should. I've done both upgrades myself.04:29
AmyRoseno ill effects.04:29
pagsnipex, do you have seperate /home ?04:29
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ubuntuhey people i need your help!!!! please !!!!!!!!!04:29
ubuntui tried to install windows xp04:29
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pagsnipex, have you set /home to mount on a different partition than /04:30
SlimeyPete!ask | ubuntu04:30
ubotuubuntu: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:30
ubuntuafter having already installed kubuntu on a different partition04:30
snipexhow can i check it ???04:30
SlimeyPeteoh... sorry04:30
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cerberoxwhen you install ubuntu and chose guided partition of you hard disk you can't define where is the home04:30
BluesKajok thx pag, that worked :)04:30
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cerberoxto check it.. $ sudo fdisk -l04:30
ubuntuyes.. it is only login in windows04:30
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:30
AmyRosestdin: Where are stdout and stderr?04:31
ubuntuexcept if i try from the installation cd04:31
ubuntuof kubuntu04:31
stdinubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows04:31
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ubuntuotherwise i cant even see kubuntu anywhere04:31
ubuntuwhat should i do ?????????????04:31
stdinAmyRose: stdout has gone out and stderr isn't feeling well :p04:31
ubuntuthank youuuuuuuu !!!!!!!!!04:31
ubuntui'll be back in a sec04:31
AmyRosestdin: ROFL04:32
cerberoxOne question for all..04:32
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AmyRosestdin: That was a clever reply :D04:32
snipexcerberox : $ sudo fdisk -l wont work, do i try sudo fdisk -|04:32
AmyRose!ask | ceros04:32
RivaeAerya In ktorrent, what should i set the UDP tracker port to? right now its 4444 but the main port is 6531204:32
stdinAmyRose: off the top of my head too, I'm feeling quite proud now :)04:32
ubotuceros: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:32
adam_I like to play iso's using kaffeine, it works quite well except i have to click open url, type "dvd://[iso filename] " which is quite long. I wanted to make it into a command so i can right click an iso and click play in kaffeine but i can't seem to work out the commdan. kaffeine dvd://%f just gives me errors saying it can't find the file or something even though the error has the correct filename in it?04:32
AmyRosewrong name04:32
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AmyRoseoh no wonder... cerberox left04:33
BluesKajubuntu , another option is to download and burn Supergrub BootDisk Live CD. it can resolve a whole host of Grub and boot problems04:33
snipexhow can i upgrade from dapper to edgy and then feisty ???04:34
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)04:35
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stdinsnipex: that link also tells you how to upgrade dapper -> edgy and edgy -> feisty04:35
snipexi got dapper, both kde and gnome04:35
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BluesKajRivaeAerya, are you behind a router ?04:36
stdinadam_: try  instead of %f04:36
stdin\ instead of %f04:36
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stdinarg, % U with no space04:36
Yorokobihehe, BluesKaj. _Everyone_ is behind a router.04:37
kuukkeliubuntu, what was your problem? =P04:37
BluesKajnot necessarily Yorokobi , some are just using a modem04:37
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stdinkuukkeli: installed kubuntu, then XP and XP overwrote the MBR04:38
YorokobiBluesKaj, the modem's default gateway is a router04:38
snipexstdin, will it upgrade both my ubuntu and kubuntu ?04:38
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snipextold ya i got ubuntu but i installed kde too04:38
qlrhow do i change my workgroup in kubuntu?04:38
ubuntuthanky ou i'll try it and come back !!!04:38
ubuntuthank youuuuuuu04:38
stdinsnipex: yeah, there is no distinction between them as far as updates go04:38
AmyRosesnipex: Yes.04:38
stdinqlr: in samba?04:39
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qlrstdin: yep in samba04:39
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Adam2stdin: so "kaffeine dvd://\" then?04:40
stdinqlr: under [global]  put "workgroup = YourWorkgroup"04:41
tzangerI can move the cursor wherever I want now in kmail04:41
stdinAdam2: no, use % U, but without the space04:41
tzangerit's done through templates now04:41
bejayhi! a question: with "dcop kicker kicker popupKMenu 0" i can open kmenu. is there a similar way to access a submenu of kmenu (same effect as add app to panel/add this menu)?04:41
kuukkelisomething's wrong with my OpenGL or it doesnt exist, what should i do?04:41
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leandrodo you know if there is a way to make a script excute as root?04:43
Yorokobibejay, open the KMenu, right click on the sub menu and add it to the main panel04:43
stdinleandro: run it with sudo04:43
leandroI know04:43
Yorokobibejay, nm, I re-read your question. :)04:43
qlrstdin: where do i find that [global]  thingy? :D04:43
SlimeyPeteleandro: chmod +s <script file name>04:43
Adam2stdin: i just get "The source can't be read." and dvd:[filename] , is it misstacking the kio for a filename?04:44
SlimeyPetebut that's potentially a bit dangerous04:44
bejaythx, yorokobi :)04:44
BluesKajif you want to split hairs about gateway definions Yorokobi , go ahead..but in ordinary english a router has gateways for several computers and acts as a hardware firewall for theat network...where I come that kind of equipment is called a router ,not a modem04:44
leandrobut I mean if there is an automatic way so I don't have to enter the pwd everytime04:44
stdinqlr: ahh, sorry, in /etc/samba/smb.conf04:44
RivaeAeryaBluesKaj: ja04:44
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RivaeAeryaBluesKaj: yes04:44
leandroSlimeyPete: does chmod +s asks for my user pwd?04:44
runleveltenOh, shut up......04:44
BluesKajok RivaeAerya , can yo access the router port mapping ?04:44
stdinAdam2: hmm, not sure04:45
SlimeyPeteleandro: nope04:45
RivaeAeryaBluesKaj: yes. And the port I mentioned, the main one, has already been forwarded04:45
SlimeyPeteleandro: chmod +s will set the file suid root04:45
RivaeAeryaBluesKaj: also, i noticed that Deluge (a GNOME bittorrent client) is faster than ktorrent... how come?04:45
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SlimeyPeteleandro: from then on, whenever you run the script it'll n as root04:45
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qlrstdin: do i need to reload it or something?04:45
SlimeyPeteleandro: but be aware that it might make your system insecure so don't go using it on a server04:46
stdinqlr: yeah, sudo /etc/init.d/samba reload04:46
SlimeyPeteleandro: sorry I should have said "sudo chmod +s" btw04:46
leandroah ok04:46
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BluesKajok  good do you have Upnp enabled . RivaeAerya?04:46
ARM7How would I go on about switching to kubuntu from ubuntu the easiest way??04:46
RivaeAeryaBluesKaj: in the router? yes. In ktorrent? no. In deluge? don't know04:47
runleveltenjust install kde04:47
SlimeyPeteuse synaptic to install kubuntu-desktop04:47
stdinARM7: install kubuntu-desktop from your package manager04:47
ARM7And I mean like if I reinstalled kubuntu over ubuntu04:47
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BluesKajcheck in ktorrent configure -settings04:47
SlimeyPeterunlevelten: that's not a complete solution - it won't install some things eg adept and the slplash screen04:47
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RivaeAeryaBluesKaj: yes UpnP is on in ktorrent04:47
RivaeAeryaBluesKaj: but will that improve speed?04:47
stdinARM7: that will let you have both kde and gnome installed, if you want to remove ubuntu, you can also try "sudo apt-get autoremove ubuntu-desktop"04:47
leandroyay, it seems to work :)04:48
runleveltenSlimeyPete: Yes, I would have given kubuntu-desktop as the package with which to do it =)04:48
SlimeyPeterunlevelten: ah04:48
BluesKajok, RivaeAerya , better sources will improve speed .AFAIK  ktorrent is fast as it gets ...never used deluge so i can't say04:48
RivaeAeryaBluesKaj: as fast as azureus?04:49
ARM9changed nick04:49
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Impy^what's the best software for playing dvds on kubuntu?04:49
ARM9But I heard that if I sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop that will remove quite a lot?04:49
stdinRivaeAerya: Azureus is slower that KTorrent, as it has to load java04:49
RivaeAeryaBluesKaj: alright, one more question. How can i move my files to another directory, but then keep it seeding the files, while in another directory?04:50
ARM9What exactly would it remove?04:50
qlrstdin: okay, let me rephrase... how do i set up samba?04:50
RivaeAeryastdin: i mean in download speed04:50
stdin!best | Impy^04:50
ubotuImpy^: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.04:50
runleveltenoog, yay gaffa tape.04:50
stdinImpy^: but VLC is what I use04:50
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runleveltenmy gaffa-taped finger hasn't dropped off xD04:50
Impy^kaffeine won't play dvd :(04:50
stdinqlr: ahh, you haven't set it up yet?04:50
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs04:50
runleveltenkaffeine can play dvds04:51
BluesKajheh, azureus are you kidding ,, that bloated thing ..yes absolutely ...ppl thinkl the client is reponsible for speed of DLs but it can help a small amount ...the source of the DL is the major determining factor speedwise in my experience04:51
runleveltenI used to do it on suse all the time, with libdvdcss and xine installed :)04:51
qlrstdin: i do not know.....04:51
icecruncherARM9: nothing but the package, it is basically a help, getting the rest (something like that)04:51
Impy^says source can't be read04:51
stdinqlr: do you want to install the samba server or just the client04:51
runleveltenhaven't ever tried it on kubuntu04:51
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ARM9So it would only remove the GNOME desktop environment, nothing else (like programs, libs, users etc??)04:51
RivaeAeryaBluesKaj: alright04:52
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runleveltenI have both installed, never hurt anything :)04:52
snipexupdate manager says that it cant fetch 1 file04:52
stdinARM9: it would remove the GTK apps, but it won't mess with your user/system settings. you can always just have both kde and gnome installed. or just install some of the GTK apps you like in kubuntu04:53
qlrstdin: dunno, i want to connect to some xp pcs via file and printer share, also there are 2 printers on xp pcs that i would like to use.....so.....client i guess......?04:53
RivaeAeryaBluesKaj: alright, one more question. How can i move my files to another directory, but then keep it seeding the files, while in another directory?04:53
pagRivaeAerya, you want to move files and continue seeding in ktorrent, right?04:53
RivaeAeryapag: yes04:53
pagRivaeAerya, right click on the torrent and choose "set download location"04:53
ARM9stdin: So it would remove everything GTK related or just the default applications?04:54
stdinqlr: ok, well you already have that installed, and you don't need to set a workgroup for it. Samba will just scan all the workgroups it can find04:54
RivaeAeryapag: but i don't want the folder moved, i want only the files moved, as i keep my files in a category, in a flat hierarchy04:54
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BluesKajRivaeAerya, you have to set the seed sourcefile in ktorrent or deluge under  General -" automatically save downloads to: "04:55
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stdinARM9: it will probably remove most the GTK stuff (including the GTK libs)04:55
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ARM9Ok, that's cool.04:55
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runleveltenI don't bother removing it myself. Space is cheap, why not keep choices?04:56
qlrstdin: okay....how do i install a samba printer?04:56
ARM9sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop now...04:56
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pagRivaeAerya, hmm... I might be wrong on that, but torrens don't like, if you break their inner folder hierarchy...04:56
RivaeAeryapag: hmm... why is that?04:56
stdinqlr: with the printer setup wizard, in system settings04:56
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ARM9Btw, how would I switch between kubuntu and ubuntu desktop later??04:56
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runleveltenstop seeding for a second, move files, create symbolic links to them, start seeding again04:57
runleveltenI do that daily with ktorrent and it works perfectly04:57
RivaeAeryarunlevelten: ah, ok :D04:57
BluesKajRivaeAerya, you can change the location after stopping a seed , then begin reseeding04:57
qlrstdin: the printer setup wizard can't findt the printers.......cant findt the workgroup too....04:58
runleveltenso you just replace the directory/file with a symbolic link, while the torrent's stopped04:58
RivaeAeryarunlevelten: what do you mean with creating symbolic links to em?04:58
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RivaeAeryarunlevelten: to where?04:58
runleveltenwell I'll do like this:04:58
stdinARM9: you can choose at login. there is a menu, before you login where you can choose kde or gnome04:58
pagRivaeAerya, I'm not even sure if that's true, so I can't really tell the reasons. I've just have a feeling that the things are that way :-/04:58
ARM9Okay. =)04:58
BluesKajhehe symbolic links aren't so easy sometimes04:58
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pagRivaeAerya, but well; you've got the solution, so nevermind :)04:59
RivaeAeryapag: heh04:59
imagineis it normal autocompletion doesn't work on konsole?04:59
runleveltenmv Downloads/myTorrent Storage/myTorrent && ln -s Storage/myTorrent Downloads/myTorrent04:59
stdinqlr: make sure that the windows firewall isn't blocking it04:59
runleveltenor do the same thing with konqueror by drag and drop04:59
Vuendf -h04:59
Vuenoops wrong window04:59
stdinqlr: I can detect my samba printer on this laptop, and I haven't even set any samba stuff up04:59
RivaeAeryarunlevelten: But if i don't want the files to be in a folder, but in my folder, for example, some music files in /home/robin/Music, and i don't want them to be in that folder that's specified in the torrent.. how?04:59
qlrstdin: windows firewall is off on both pcs, also i CANT ping anything with his "computer name" only with his ip.....05:00
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runleveltenyou stop the torrent, then:05:00
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ubuntu__i have managed to have to boot menu but can not mount my hard disk partition05:00
runlevelten1. Move the stuff to your folder05:00
ubuntu__for no reason..05:00
ubuntu__i do not know why?05:00
ubuntu__can anybody help please?05:00
RivaeAeryaubuntu__: #ubuntu05:00
runlevelten2. Where the file was, replace it with a link to the new file *with the same name*05:00
stdinqlr: that's normal, as you aren't running a DNS server. you can ping by name if you add the IP/name to /etc/hosts, but that's nothing to do with samba05:01
ubuntu__i am trying these..05:01
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ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)05:01
ubuntu__anybody please?05:01
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runleveltenso instead of Download/music.mp3, you now have a link called Download/music.mp305:01
Vuenrunlevelten, RivaeAerya: yeah, that'll work, but why not just leave it where it is and simlink to it from your music folder? that's what i do. then you just move it for real when you stop seeding.05:01
runleveltenthat goes to /home/robin/Music/music.mp305:01
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imagineis it normal autocompletion doesn't work on konsole?05:02
stdinimagine: no05:02
Vuenimagine: nope. autocomplete should work05:02
SlimeyPetebut autocomplete is a bash thing, not a konsole thing05:02
RivaeAeryaVuen: yeah, but how do i move multiple files in that torrent, to /home/robin/Music? i mean, i have several mp3s, and they're packaged in the torrent, in a folder. But, i want only the seperate mp3 files to move to /home/robin/Music. That's my actual question, how do i do THAT.05:02
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SlimeyPetecheck that bash is installed and set as your default shell05:03
runleveltenwell firstly that depends where you want the files05:03
imagineweird... it works on one user but doesn't on the other one..05:03
runleveltenRivaeAerya wants to do exactly what I do05:03
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VuenRivaeAerya: well, do what runlevelten says. i was just suggesting an easier alternative.05:03
runleveltenmove the files to the music folder, etc05:03
icecruncheranyone considering of trying "opensolaris"?05:03
qlrstdin: okay, so how do i set up the printer? it is located on a windows xp pc, in the AMIGO workgroup, i can get it's shared files, but dont know what to do to get the printer running...05:03
RivaeAeryaVuen: alright, but that makes a link to the folder... not the music files, multiple music files05:03
VuenRivaeAerya: stop the torrent, move them, link them back, resume the torrent. it's just a pain for no reason.05:03
RivaeAeryaVuen: oh, just link the multiple files? aye..05:04
stdinimagine: make sure that the users .bashrc sources /etc/bash_completion05:04
VuenRivaeAerya: you can make multiple simlinks, one for each file...05:04
qlrstdin: (i don't have a clue in what workgroup i am)05:04
RivaeAeryaVuen: how do i do that in konqueror?05:04
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runleveltenif you want to do it for each file, not for the folder, then it has to be done for each file... kind of a rod for your own back really, heh05:04
VuenRivaeAerya: first stop the torrent, then open a konq window05:04
VuenRivaeAerya: click View->Split View->Left Right05:05
SlimeyPeteimagine: you need to figure out how to set the users shell to bash (I forget how)05:05
malik__hi ......i am trying to install mldonkey from the repos, apart from mlkdonkey-server package, which gui package should i install? kmldonkey or mldonkey-gui?.......any help is welcome05:05
VuenRivaeAerya: browse one side to where the music files are in the torrent, browse the other to your music folder05:05
BluesKajheh , I just copy the file to it's final destination , once i think my ratio is high enuff I stop seeding , I delete the original , RivaeAerya ...no worries05:05
stdinqlr: does the command "smbtree -N" show the printer?05:05
VuenRivaeAerya: ctrl+click all the music files you want, then drag them over to your music folder. it'll ask you what you want, choose Move05:05
RivaeAeryaBluesKaj: my disk space is kind of limited05:06
VuenRivaeAerya: then ctrl+click reselect all the music files you just moved, then drag them back to the torrent folder. it'll ask you what you want, choose Link05:06
runleveltenthen keep them selected, and drag them back - this time choose Link05:06
VuenRivaeAerya: that's it. then just resume the torrent.05:06
RivaeAeryaVuen: thanks!05:06
imaginewell it's weird.. if I create a user on konsole using useradd -m I can't get autocompletion.. but if I create it using the control center.. it works..05:06
qlrstdin: the command showd some information about my pc, about 3 lines, nothing more05:06
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bronze-I'm using KDE, and I want to uninstall alot of applications, e.g. all applications under "games". What's the fastest way to do this?05:07
VuenRivaeAerya: this whole procedure is kindof silly though. you'd be better off to just link them directly in the music folder and move them later, or just not seed at all. it's not a big deal if you don't seed sometimes; there are other people (i.e. me) who don't mind seeding05:07
stdinqlr: about YOUR computer?05:07
BluesKajRivaeAerya, try the symbolic link thing , but then see if you can play the file while it's still seeding05:07
RivaeAeryaVuen: it worked!05:07
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qlrstdin: yep, mine05:08
stdinqlr: what does it say?05:08
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ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:08
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse05:09
qlrstdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29795/05:09
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions05:09
ARM9Okay now I set KDM as default...05:10
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ARM9Still downloading packages. :P05:10
imagineanother bug: if I use vi.. when I use arrows while inserting text.. it writes letter (B for up arrow, etc)05:10
stdinqlr: so you do have the samba server installed then :p05:10
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RivaeAeryaVuen: what happens if you don't stop the seeding?05:10
Vuenimagine: yeah, something's wrong there...05:10
VuenRivaeAerya: what do you mean?05:11
vltHello. I've installes Kubuntu 7.0.4, and sometimes Konqueror can't access some sites (or localhost) while curl or elinks works fine? What could be a reason for this behavior?05:11
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RivaeAeryaVuen: if you don't pause the seeding, and move the files05:11
RivaeAeryaVuen: by the way, nice trick, the split-view05:11
VuenRivaeAerya: a few things can happen, the main danger is that the client will think the data went missing before you make the symlinks and restart the download05:11
RivaeAeryaVuen: alright05:12
VuenRivaeAerya: if it already had the files open, it will continue happily working (because the linux kernel is so nice :D, don't try that on windows)05:12
azzcoMy boot time is really really long, does anyone know something that could fasten it a bit?05:12
VuenRivaeAerya: anyway if you forgot to stop the torrent when you moved the files, just stop it now and hit resume. this will make it reopen the files from the symlinks05:12
stdinqlr: do you have a firewall running on your pc, or are you behind a router?05:12
RivaeAeryaVuen: alright, that will still fix it?05:12
VuenRivaeAerya: yeah. probably nothing's broken anyway.05:13
RivaeAeryaVuen: didn't happen yet. but just in case05:13
imagineVuen: do you think it's VI related? or Ubuntu related? (it's not  doing that on SuSE on my other compuTer)05:13
ubuntu__nobody wont help me05:13
ubuntu__is there anyone that knows05:13
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Vuenimagine: my first guess would be xorg related. some codepage is wrong or something. unfortunately i don't know anything about that :(05:13
ubuntu__how i can mount this freaking partition05:13
qlrstdin: nope05:14
ubuntu__ so that i can log in to my kubuntu?05:14
Vuenimagine: go to a vt and try vi, see if it works05:14
RivaeAeryaVuen: what's the default UDP port of ktorrent?05:14
Vuenimagine: like the arrow keys and all05:14
pagubuntu__, sudo mount /dev/sdXY /mount/point ?05:14
imaginevt= virtual terminal?05:14
ubuntu__pag what was that?05:14
VuenRivaeAerya: afaik 6881, same as every other torrent client (except recent releases of Azureus, which uses a random port)05:14
qlrstdin: i can acces the shared files on both pcs but not the printers......05:14
Vuenimagine: yeah05:14
stdinqlr: strange...05:15
ubuntu__i have done that already05:15
ubuntu__but when i restatt05:15
ubuntu__i get05:15
RivaeAeryaVuen: thanks05:15
ubuntu__the menu05:15
ubuntu__the boot menu05:15
ubuntu__but afterwards05:15
jhutchins!enter | ubuntu__05:15
ubotuubuntu__: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!05:15
ubuntu__i can not login to the partition05:15
stdinubuntu__: add it to /etc/fstab to have it mount automatically05:15
pag!grub | ubuntu__05:16
ubotuubuntu__: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto05:16
ubuntu__ok..sorry/../  how can i do that please ?05:16
stdinqlr: have you tried putting in the information manually?05:16
ubuntu__ok i will try it and come back. thank you..05:16
jhutchinsubuntu__: You may need to set the fmask and dmask to allow regular users to access the drive.05:16
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stdinubuntu__: by adding a line like "/dev/sda2 /home ext3 defaults"05:17
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jhutchinsstdin: Will defaults cover the problem of partitions mounting root-only?  Do you know where the default values are set?05:18
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stdinjhutchins: for ext3 the permissions are stored on the filesystem, so umask/dmask don't really apply05:19
ubuntu__i am really confused05:19
jhutchinsAh, that's why it's a problem with other filesystems then.05:19
kamuianyone with intel GMA chipset manage to get dual screens working BOTH with DRI?05:19
stdinjhutchins: and "defaults" is a keyword in mount05:19
ubuntu__i need somebody that can help me out !!! seriously !! i ahev all my files in there!!!05:20
apmarinsomebody have compiz fusion in a laptop with intel graphic card?05:20
kamuiI can only seem to get dri enabled on my right (screen 0) display05:20
jhutchinsHe wasn't clear what kind of a partition it was or what problems he was having.05:20
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Vuenubuntu__: i use ntfs-3g to access my windows drive. want to see my fstab?05:20
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ubuntu__i am running my live cd now.. is that possible ?? otherwise i can not loggin05:20
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ubuntu__it's madness !!!05:21
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Vuenubuntu__: you're running off a livecd? it's a lot of work to configure ntfs-3g for something that will go away when you restart your computer...05:21
RivaeAeryaVuen: ktorrent's download speed is REALLY slow in comparison with deluge05:22
jhutchinsLet's not go throwing in assumptions here.05:22
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ubuntu__tha'ts what i mean.. i can not login to my kubuntu.. i installed windows in another partition end afterthat i could never login again kubuntu05:22
RivaeAeryaVuen: and i'm talking about a torrent with thousands of seeds here05:22
jhutchinsubuntu__: Tell us what happend and what's happening now.05:22
ubuntu__i don't know what to do05:22
apmarinsomebody have compiz fusion in a laptop with intel graphic card?05:22
RivaeAeryaVuen: the download speed goes from 1kb/s to 10kb/s and back to 1kb/s05:22
jhutchinsubuntu__: Do you have a kubuntu installation that you can't log in to?05:22
ubuntu__yes !!!05:22
ubuntu__yes !!!05:22
VuenRivaeAerya: it's possible that something is configured wrong. with such huge torrents i often get speeds >300kb/s05:23
SlimeyPeteubuntu__: you mean you don't get the option to boot kubuntu?05:23
jhutchinsubuntu__: What happens when you try to log in?05:23
jhutchinsSlimeyPete: No, he said he can't log in.05:23
RivaeAeryaVuen: yeah, in Deluge, the same for me05:23
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jhutchinsSlimeyPete: Not that it won't boot.05:23
ubuntu__now i get the option since i tried the recoveringubuntuafterinstallingwindows site05:23
SlimeyPetejhutchins: I know what he said. But what people say is not always what they mean ;)05:23
RivaeAeryaVuen: this port: 65312 <-- is forwarded in my router05:23
VuenRivaeAerya: try changing the port to something else (mine is set to 61240), and make sure you configure your router and firewall to open that port05:23
ubuntu__now i get the login menu05:23
VuenRivaeAerya: ah05:23
VuenRivaeAerya: ok then tell ktorrent to use that port05:23
RivaeAeryaVuen: already does05:23
ubuntu__but it says that the partition is not mounted or something like that05:23
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VuenRivaeAerya: oh. um, maybe restart ktorrent?05:24
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jhutchinsubuntu__: What happens when you try to log in?05:24
SlimeyPetea newbie might say "log in" when they mean "boot", though not in this case it would seem :)05:24
RivaeAeryaVuen: but the UDP tracker port is 4444, and i already restarted.05:24
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jhutchinsubuntu__: Ok, we need what it actually says.05:24
jhutchinsubuntu__: I'm guessing that one of your partitions isn't correct.05:24
ubuntu__the thing is that i get confused withe boot partition file or directory or whatever.. i do not know if it is the same with the partition that has my kubuntu on it05:24
VuenRivaeAerya: UDP tracker port should say 4444. i assume you're not tracking anything, so you don't need to worry about that05:24
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jhutchinsubuntu__: We can figure that out, can you get the exact error message for us?05:24
ubuntu__ok i will restart and come back to you05:25
ubuntu__ok ?05:25
qlrstdin: haven't tryed it, could you help me how to do that?05:25
jhutchinsok, I am going to get coffee and some food and will be back.05:25
ubuntu__ok thank you.. byeee05:25
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stdinqlr: you just put in the workgroup of the computer with the printer on, the computer name and the printer name (share name)05:26
stdinqlr: all in the printer wizard dialog05:26
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qlrcomputer name or ip address?05:27
qlrstdin: ^^05:27
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:28
stdinqlr: name05:28
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wepihano luck getting line-input working here... any suggestions/links/howtos etc? kernel module is snd-ymfpci...05:29
VuenRivaeAerya: right now i'm downloading a torrent with ktorrent that has 246 seeds and 261 peers total05:29
VuenRivaeAerya: i'm getting 310kb/s consistently05:29
VuenRivaeAerya: ktorrent works quite well for me. it's probably just a configuration problem somewhere. try enabling the upnp plugin05:30
RivaeAeryaVuen:  523 seeds, 654 leechers, so says the website page, but my client says 52 seeds05:30
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VuenRivaeAerya: also, are you using kubuntu 7.04?05:30
RivaeAeryaVuen: yes05:30
RivaeAeryaVuen: and UpnP is enabled05:30
VuenRivaeAerya: yes, that's because it's only connected to 52 seeds. if you click the info box you'll see how many you're connected to and how many total.05:30
stdinRivaeAerya: the site could be out-of-date05:30
dr_willisI have ktorrent working very well for me most of the time also.05:30
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stdinRivaeAerya: some only update every few hours05:30
RivaeAeryaVuen: and... the name is KtorrentGibbon in the titlebar cause i have kde 3.5.705:30
kamuiAnyone working with the Intel GMA chipset at all05:31
Dou1hi, I'm trying to instal feisty fawn on my vista laptop.  I have 2 partitions free, but when i get to the kubuntu install do i select Guided - use entire disk or manual?05:31
RivaeAeryaVuen: download speed is around 50kb/s now05:31
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VuenRivaeAerya: ah. i have kde 3.5.6. should still work though, i highly doubt that's a new bug in ktorrent.05:31
RivaeAeryaVuen: me too05:31
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stdinDou1: choose manual if you have already partitioned05:31
RivaeAeryaVuen: only a few peers show download speed05:31
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Daisuke_Idoyay for MS releasing patches that break more than they fix!05:32
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jerramhowdy guys and girls05:32
Dou1ok, then i delete the partitions and make an ext partition and a swap partition, but it won't let me continue05:32
Dou1it says "no root file system is defined"05:32
VuenRivaeAerya: it sounds like it's working fine. just give it some time, it'll speed up.05:32
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RivaeAeryaVuen: i started it up a half hour ago.05:32
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VuenRivaeAerya: in any case not all torrents will go fast. it depends what you're downloading. people who share "300-DVDRip" are more likely to seed fast than people who share "Dancing With The Stars Season 1"05:33
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qlrstdin: doesn't work :(05:33
jerramim fresh to my ubuntu install, and cant work out where my cd is mounting to - is it automounting, and if so where is it mounting to?05:33
dr_willisDou1,  you must assign one of the partitiosn to be mounted to '/'05:33
jhutchins_ltubuntu__: I'm back, what did I miss?05:33
Dou1the ext partition then?05:34
dr_willisDou1,  '/ ' is called  the 'root' filesystem,05:34
smylanakisi was previously ubuntu_ but now had to change my nickname.. i am the one with log in problem after installing windows05:34
nosrednaekimjerram: probably /media/cdrom05:34
smylanakisis there anybody that i was talking before05:34
smylanakishere ?05:34
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jhutchins_ltsmylanakis: That would be me.05:34
jerramnosrednaekim: ill check that again05:34
VuenRivaeAerya: torrents with commercial backing are likely to go fastest of all, for example the new ubuntu cd. i only download legal torrents, so maybe that's why i get good speeds.05:34
smylanakisvery nice.. well my friend it says cannot mount selected partition05:34
RivaeAeryaVuen: check out your private message05:35
Dou1thanks dr_willis would i make the ext3 mounted to '/' then?05:35
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stdinqlr: I don't know then, for me it just works.05:35
jhutchins_ltsmylanakis: Anything clue what it's trying to mount?  This is after the login screen, correct?05:35
dr_willisRivaeAerya,  ive had amazing speeds on the newese iso releases. :)  I though my network cables would over heat.05:35
dr_willisDou1,  yes.05:35
stdinqlr: maybe try asking in #samba ?05:35
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Dou1thank you very much05:35
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qlrstdin: thx will try05:35
dr_willisDou1,  unless you can think of anything ELSE  to do.. heh. Its the logical thing to do.05:35
Dou1yeah haha05:36
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dr_willisDou1,  dont 'mount' the swap partition anywere - its 'type' should be swap. , it dosent ahve a mount point05:36
smylanakisthis is after exatly that.. one sec..05:36
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RivaeAeryadr_willis: what amount of KB/s?05:36
smylanakisthere must be something that i did wrong.. i dont know.. the log in menu come up but when i choose which one to log in i just can't05:36
smylanakisthis message comes up05:37
dr_willisRivaeAerya,  i forget.. was like 600+ i dident think my connection could do that fast.05:37
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dr_willisof coruse when ya get 3000+ seeders on an iso file.. it helps05:37
smylanakisthat means that i did something right (since before no log in menu would came up just logged in to windows without asking anything) but from the other hand now it says that it cannot mount tha selected partition05:38
RivaeAeryadr_willis: lol05:38
smylanakiswhatever i am very confused05:38
RivaeAeryadr_willis: where do i get that torrent?05:38
jhutchins_ltsmylanakis: Ok, my login screen just has blanks for username and password.  What choices do you have?05:38
nosrednaekimsmylanakis: is your /home on a different partition?05:38
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smylanakiswhat do you mean home ?05:38
boguhis there a restricted driver tool in kubuntu like under gnome?05:38
smylanakismy kubuntu ?05:39
nosrednaekimsmylanakis: do you have a separate partition for your /home05:39
dr_willisRivaeAerya,  it was one of the Ubuntu torrents. I belive. Been a while. Some Linux Iso just released i torrent'ed it 2 days later.. and got great speeds. :)05:39
nosrednaekimboguh: not yet, but you can just get the ubuntu one05:39
RivaeAeryadr_willis: i'll try it out05:39
jhutchins_ltsmylanakis: /home/<user> is where all your personal stuff is stored, some people make a seperate partition for it.05:39
dr_willis - /home - the directory where ALL users  home dirs are located.. Often mounted to a seperate partition/filesystem/drive05:39
smylanakisyes that is in sda3 ok ? just to make a start05:40
jhutchins_ltsmylanakis: We're jumping ahead a little here and guessing that that's what the system is trying to mount, and it's not working.05:40
jhutchins_ltsmylanakis: and "/" is a different partition?05:40
smylanakisshould i show you what exactly i did ?05:41
jhutchins_ltsmylanakis: We can probably go from here.05:41
nosrednaekimsmylanakis: lets put it this way, did you just do the guided, standard partitioning in the installer?05:41
Sinistral_Is it possible to force a process to use the swap space instead of physical memory?05:41
jhutchins_ltsmylanakis: But whatever.  If it's more than a line or two, use pastebin.05:41
smylanakisthat's what i did..05:41
nosrednaekimsmylanakis: then you probably don't have a separate /home05:41
dr_willisSinistral_,  not sure...  now why would you want to.. i dont know.. :)05:42
smylanakisi dont know whatever i am having ok ? lol  i am a newby05:42
nosrednaekimdo a "mount" and see if it mentions a /home anywhere in there.05:42
jhutchins_ltnosrednaekim: He's on the live CD.05:42
smylanakisdo mount where and how ?05:42
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nosrednaekimoh.... my bad05:42
jhutchins_ltsmylanakis: Right?05:42
nosrednaekimnever mind05:42
jhutchins_ltsmylanakis: Live CD?05:42
smylanakislive cd05:42
jerramBack again. cdrom is set to cable select on the end cable plug, only ide plug. system disk is sda1 - cant load this mofo cdrom -im doing something wrong, what is it?05:42
jhutchins_ltCause he can't get on-line with the installation.05:42
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stdinSinistral_:  don't think so, swap is only used when physcal memory is full05:43
jhutchins_ltsmylanakis: Ok, let's start with sudo fdisk -l in a console, and post the output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/05:43
Sinistral_dr_willis: Im running low on phys mem and I want this to move applications that I new often running (eg. firefox) while running a game. The game should have as much as possible phys mem to run smooth.05:43
smylanakisok.. thanx.. that's the right way.. :D05:43
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Sinistral_oups "new often running" > "need running to swap)05:44
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stdinSinistral_: are you sure you're running low, it may just be cached05:44
dr_willisSinistral_,  every time ive seen some duscissions about forceing the memory manager to do one thing or the other... the threads always basicially conclude. its best to let Linux handle it.    The memorymanager should automaticially move the unneeded stuff to swap05:44
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dr_willisused mem as cache is like the first to get released isent it.05:45
smylanakisok i posted it !05:45
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Sinistral_stdin: ksysguard reports about 15.000 KB free phys mem05:45
jerramI worked it out: you guys will love this.05:46
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stdinSinistral_: eg: i see my mem is 90% used, but 483MB is in cache05:46
smylanakishello anybody there ?05:46
jerrami was ssh'ed to my other box05:46
nosrednaekimsmylanakis: link please?05:46
dr_williscached  747452 , here05:46
jerramdamn I suk05:46
Sinistral_Where do you see how much is in cache?05:46
nosrednaekimthank you05:46
stdinSinistral_: yeah, but it may just be cache. use the command "free" to see05:46
Sinistral_ok, trying05:47
weshey people somebody knows how can i get metisse or someone else desktop 3D, cuz i'm using kubuntu and i didnt got find any by now... =/05:47
weshey people somebody knows how can i get metisse or someone else desktop 3D, cuz i'm using kubuntu and i didnt got find any by now... =/05:47
dr_willisIve only seen metisse on that Mandriva live cd.05:47
nosrednaekimsmylanakis: ok, so no separate /home05:47
dr_willisIt seems tobe a  neat thing (tm) that no one ever looks at. :(05:47
nosrednaekimsabayon has it now.05:47
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smylanakiswhatever i do not know what you mean.. but if you say so :D:D05:48
Sinistral_stdin: 539096 chached-05:48
nosrednaekimsmylanakis: lol05:48
nosrednaekimyou'll learn05:48
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wesah thanks... and about someone else desktop 3D to kubuntu, what can i use?05:48
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dr_williswhat other ones are there?05:48
stdinSinistral_: so you have plenty of mem left :)05:48
Dannilionbah. It looks like I can either play games, or have my laptop screen at the correct resolution, but not both.05:49
smylanakisyou mean that the operating system is not devided in two parts or something ? lol05:49
nosrednaekimsmylanakis: now, do a "sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda3 /mnt" in the terminal05:49
Sinistral_ok didn't know that, thank you!05:49
nosrednaekimsmylanakis: precisely05:49
smylanakiswell whatever,, what do we do next please ?:D05:49
jhutchins_ltsmylanakis: Sorry, having to deal with physicians on the phone here.05:49
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westo say the truth i dunno, i wanted to know if has someone without to be metisse them...05:49
stdinSinistral_: trust linux, it's not evil like windows :p05:49
jhutchins_ltsmylanakis: This is going to look a lot like what you did following the recovery instructions.05:50
smylanakisok no problem i'll be waiting! i am not going anywhre now !!  :D by the way i gave the command :D05:50
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smylanakisok..  !!! interesting!! i am listening !05:50
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nosrednaekimsmylanakis: ok, now run "kdesu konqueror" and browse to /mnt05:50
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Sinistral_stdin: hehe, so true! I just got a worse than earlier performance even on a older game and though it might be an memory issue05:51
smylanakisok i did that but in the konsole this came up..05:52
smylanakisX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16705:52
smylanakis  Major opcode:  14405:52
smylanakis  Minor opcode:  305:52
smylanakis  Resource id:  0x005:52
smylanakisFailed to open device05:52
dr_willis!bad device05:52
ubotuIf you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors05:52
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nosrednaekimyeah. don't worry about that05:52
dr_willisthats just a warning/annoying messae05:52
stdindr_willis: not on a live cd tho05:52
vzduch!paste | smylanakis05:52
smylanakisis that a command ?05:53
dr_willishes got 167 also. not a 168. Odd...05:53
ubotusmylanakis: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:53
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jhutchins_ltsmylanakis: He's complaining about posting so many lines of the error here.05:53
dr_willisis what a command.. :)05:53
jhutchins_ltsmylanakis: Generally more than a couple lines should always go to pastebin.05:53
smylanakisok sorry about that.. wont happen again..05:53
vzduch31 seconds reaction time.. not bad.. o005:53
nosrednaekimsmylanakis: ok, you in /mnt now?05:53
smylanakisyes i am my friend05:54
smylanakiswhat now ? :D lol..05:54
nosrednaekimthat is your linux installation in case you didn't know. Now, go to the home folder, and then your directory.05:55
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guest_hello may I join with you05:56
smylanakisok what now guys ??05:56
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nosrednaekimso everything looks fine in there?05:56
guest_may I ask abount kubuntu in tihis firum05:57
guest_may I ask abount kubuntu in tihis forum05:57
smylanakiswhat do you mean in there ?05:57
dr_willisguest_,  you just did... care to asn another?05:57
dr_willisand another.. :)05:57
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:57
smylanakiseverything looks fine ??05:57
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Daisuke_Idothat's annoying05:58
nosrednaekimsmylanakis: please calm down. Are all your files there?05:58
jhutchins_ltnosrednaekim: ownership/permissions05:58
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smylanakisooooooooohhhhhhhhhh.. ok.. just a minute to heck please..05:58
Minatakulo, dr_willis05:58
nosrednaekimindeed, that would be a problem as well.05:58
smylanakisyes!!! they are here !!!05:58
smylanakisyes!!! they are here !!!05:59
Daisuke_Idojesus dude, take a valium.05:59
Daisuke_Idolittle too excited05:59
smylanakislol.. if you just knew what i have in that partition.. it's my whole life saved in there ...05:59
nosrednaekimsmylanakis: ok, right click on your base directory in /home (/home/<your user name>) and select "properties"06:00
dr_willisThat sounds like stuff thats worth BACKING UP....06:00
smylanakisyes but i don't know the way !@!! :D lol06:00
nosrednaekimmaybe he doesn't like his life ;)06:00
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nosrednaekimsmylanakis: burn it on a DVD or CD,06:00
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smylanakiskust a minute you teasing fellows06:00
MarcCis there a way to force my current session to save over the old one that opens every time I start KDE?06:01
Daisuke_Idodr_willis: iLife?06:01
smylanakishow could i imagine that microsft would make it so bad even in these way ??06:01
dr_willisIf you have IMPORNTANT stuff on a hard drive.. it  is not 'safe' the hard drive could die at any time.. right now!... or Now.. or tommorw...06:01
nosrednaekimsmylanakis: what? MS has nothing to do with this.06:01
dr_willisIf its that impornatant.. at least get a 2nd hd.. and mirror the stuff to it...06:01
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dr_willisbetter yet.. get 2 :)06:01
smylanakiswhat is it then ?06:01
nosrednaekimsmylanakis: any way... did you do that think I told you to?06:01
Daisuke_Idotape backup!06:02
smylanakiswhy did that happen ?06:02
stdinget a full RAID + backup servers :)06:02
smylanakisi just installed windows and all this happened06:02
smylanakisi went to properties .. should i change the permissions tab or something ?06:02
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nosrednaekimsmylanakis: yea, go to that tab.06:03
Daisuke_Idoyou installed windows...  after kubuntu?06:03
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nosrednaekimsmylanakis: does it say the owner can view and modify content?06:03
smylanakisyes windows after kubuntu.. in a different partition of course.. but afdterthat kubuntu dissapeared06:03
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nosrednaekimand the user is your user-name?06:03
smylanakisit says that06:03
smylanakisjust a minute06:04
smylanakisno it says root06:04
Daisuke_Idowell yeah kubuntu disappeared.06:04
Daisuke_Idooy vey06:04
jhutchins_ltMarcC: Yeah.06:04
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JumpyLinuxIs there some one here who has a Samsung SyncMaster 245B_06:04
smylanakisshould i change the permissions only for the owner or the group together as well ?06:04
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nosrednaekimsmylanakis: I don't think you need to change anything06:05
nosrednaekimsmylanakis: under ownership in that tab, is your user name YOUR username?06:05
nosrednaekim*the username YOUR username06:05
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smylanakisno man it says root..06:05
jhutchins_ltTHat's the problem.06:05
smylanakismy nickname when i was running kubuntu before the installation06:06
smylanakiswas smylanakis06:06
smylanakisnot root06:06
nosrednaekimwe have found the problem.06:06
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jhutchins_ltMakes sense now.06:06
smylanakisshould i change that?? and the group too ?06:06
jhutchins_ltDaisuke_Ido: No.06:06
smylanakisok let me change it then guys06:06
Daisuke_Idoroot access screwing things up06:06
nosrednaekimsmylanakis: wait wait...06:06
jhutchins_ltDaisuke_Ido: During the recovery process, he did something as root that changed that.  Yes, an error, but not really pebkac.06:07
Daisuke_Idoi'm only half-paying attention :P06:07
jhutchins_ltDaisuke_Ido: He's been quite clear in following instructions to recover.06:07
Daisuke_Idoah ha06:07
Daisuke_Idowell that's a plus06:07
smylanakisi changed it but it wont save it06:07
smylanakisok sorry.. i am waiting..06:07
nosrednaekimsmylanakis: ok, just checking something. OK go ahead and change it06:08
MarcCdcop ksmserver default saveCurrentSession06:08
smylanakisi tried but it wont save it..06:08
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nosrednaekimand make sure you check the box that says apply changes to subfolders06:08
smylanakiswhen i save it and go to permissions again the name is root again06:08
nosrednaekimsmylanakis: what?06:08
nosrednaekimdid you apply to all sub-olders?06:08
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smylanakisok ok now i am doing it06:09
smylanakisbut it takes time. !!06:09
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nosrednaekimyeah.... it does take a bit06:10
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jhutchins_ltThat's usually a sign that it's working.06:11
smylanakiswell i did and went to properties again and permissions and it is the same06:11
smylanakisroot again !06:11
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nosrednaekimthis is your /home/smylanakis folder?06:12
smylanakisno man.. my home folder.. is that the problem ?06:13
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nosrednaekimyou were trying to set ALL of home to be like that? or just home/smylankis?06:13
smylanakisfirst i did the stupid mistake for the home folder06:14
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smylanakisbut now i did the smylanakis folder in home folder  /home/smylanakis06:15
smylanakisand it is not working again..06:15
nosrednaekimmake sure you chack the box saying apply to subfolders.06:15
nosrednaekimtheea: hey06:15
smylanakisi did06:15
smylanakis i did !!!06:15
theeai want to install irfanview via wine on my ubuntu and it doesent work06:15
jhutchins_ltDid we mount the partition r/w?06:15
nosrednaekimjhutchins_lt: isn't that the default?06:16
dr_willistheea,  ive had it work befor.. ages ago.. not tried lately.06:16
jhutchins_lttheea: Is it listed on the winehq page a sa program that' s known to work?06:16
jhutchins_ltnosrednaekim: Dunno, looks like maybe not.06:16
jhutchins_ltsmylanakis: Do we have a console open?06:16
dr_willisA lot can depend on the version of wine.. and the version of the programs06:16
theeayep jhutchins_lt06:16
smylanakisyes we have..06:17
smylanakiso (KIOConnection): ERROR: Could not write data06:17
smylanakiskfile (kdelibs): ERROR:  ERROR: No user smylanakis06:17
jhutchins_ltsmylanakis: Type "mount" there, pastebin the oputput if it's more than ... Eh?06:17
smylanakiskfile (kdelibs): ERROR:  ERROR: No user smylanakis06:17
smylanakiskio (KIOConnection): ERROR: Could not write data06:17
smylanakiskio (KIOConnection): ERROR: Could not write data06:17
smylanakiskio (KIOConnection): ERROR: Could not write data06:17
smylanakiskio (KIOConnection): ERROR: Could not write data06:17
smylanakiskio (KIOConnection): ERROR: Could not write data06:17
theeaand also on irfanview site is written to use wine jhutchins_lt06:17
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jhutchins_ltsmylanakis: Remember, only one or two lines of paste here.06:17
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:17
smylanakisok wait06:17
smylanakisok ok sorry ..06:17
theeaplease do help i need badly irfanview06:18
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nosrednaekimoh... I see the problem. it has to be solved from a chroot.06:18
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smylanakishere you are06:18
jhutchins_lttheea: Ok, you might check in @wine, or if irfanview has a help channel, or just wait a bit.06:18
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theeaok i wait06:18
dr_williswine iview400_setup.exe06:18
dr_williserr:module:import_dll Library MFC42.DLL (which is needed by L"Z:\\home\\willis\\iview400_setup.exe") not found06:18
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jhutchins_ltsmylanakis: Ok, we need a new pastebin with just the output of mount.06:19
theeafor me nothing get activated after cliking on open with wine06:19
boguhhow to install mp3 support? amarok always crashes when clicking on a mp306:19
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nosrednaekimboguh: install "libxine-extracodecs"06:20
jhutchins_lttheea: We are assuming that you have wine installed and configured.  Do you?06:20
dr_willisyep thats a known bug. :()06:20
theeabough you have codecs on add remove06:20
theeayes i have jhutchins_lt06:20
jhutchins_lttheea: Does minesweeper work?06:20
theea] yep06:20
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theeayep j06:21
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theeasure i payed on it also jhutchins_lt06:21
jhutchins_lttheea: If trying to run something in the gui doesn't work, it's a good idea to try it in a console to see what errors you might be getting.06:21
dr_willisminesweeper  :0 now move up to sol.exe :)06:21
persen_Does kubuntu have a "server" edition as ubuntu has?06:21
jhutchins_ltpersen_: Since a server usually doesn't use desktop stuff, no.06:21
smylanakisok this the one!06:21
jhutchins_ltsmylanakis: No, the X errors aren't going to help.06:22
smylanakisit says no user smylanakis.. but the folder is also called smylanakis.. so..06:22
nosrednaekimsmylanakis: no no... run "mount" and pastebin THAT output.06:22
smylanakisjust a sec06:22
jhutchins_ltsmylanakis: What we need you to do is to open a console and type "mount" <return> then paste that.  DON'T paste the X errors.06:22
smylanakishere it is06:23
jhutchins_ltnosrednaekim: There is no smylankis user on the live CD, that's what's happening.06:23
nosrednaekimjhutchins_lt: yeah I know... we are going to have to chroot, right?06:24
jhutchins_ltnosrednaekim: Possibly he needs to try numeric UID, and probably do this from the console.06:24
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jhutchins_ltnosrednaekim: He should be able to do numeric uid from the console without chroot.06:24
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nosrednaekimjust assume a 1001?06:24
dr_willisI agree...06:24
dr_willis1001 should be the first user.06:24
jhutchins_ltnosrednaekim: Is that standard?  Good, I'm not positive of that.06:24
illriginalhow do you kill all firefox?06:24
dr_willisOh wait.. 1000 - is the first user here.06:25
jhutchins_ltnosrednaekim: Check yours?06:25
nosrednaekimwill do06:25
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nosrednaekimok.... yeah, its 100006:25
nosrednaekimmay bad06:25
jhutchins_lt1000 on mine too.06:25
nosrednaekimsmylanakis: don't worry :D06:25
nosrednaekimok great.06:26
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nosrednaekimI forget how to use chmod though.06:26
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smylanakisit looks like i should start to though :P06:26
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jhutchins_ltsmylanakis: So try this:  in the console, chown -R 1000:1000 /home/smylanakis06:26
nosrednaekimprefix sudo....06:26
jhutchins_ltArgh, no, that won't work!06:26
jhutchins_ltsudo chown -R 1000:1000 /mnt/home/smylankis06:27
theeajhutchins_lt: what i do if on terminal is written err:module:import_dll Library MFC42.DLL (which is needed by L"Z:\\home\\css\\Desktop\\iview_s.exe") not found06:27
nosrednaekimtheea: grab it from windows?06:27
jhutchins_lttheea: Do you have a windows install on that box?06:27
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theeawhat do you mea a windows install on that box06:28
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smylanakischown: cannot access `/home/smylanakis': No such file or directory06:28
jhutchins_lttheea: Is this a dual boot box with windows installed on it?06:28
jhutchins_ltsmylanakis: sudo chown -R 1000:1000 /mnt/home/smylankis06:29
nosrednaekimsmylanakis:run "sudo chown -R 1000:1000 /mnt/home/smylankis"06:29
smylanakischown: cannot access `/mnt/home/smylankis': No such file or directory06:29
theea:(( i dont know in english the meaning of queation sorry06:29
nosrednaekimjhutchins_lt: what if his whole install has messed up permissions?06:29
smylanakisyeah ok06:29
smylanakisit got it !06:29
jhutchins_ltsmylanakis: Ok, I guess reboot and try agian, and make sure you come back and let us know.06:30
smylanakisok whatever happens i'll be back !!!06:30
jhutchins_lttheea: Do you have a computer with MS Windows installeed on it somewhere?06:30
nosrednaekimjhutchins_lt: what if his whole install is messed up?06:30
jhutchins_ltnosrednaekim: We'll be teaching "backup under the live CD" I guess.06:30
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theeayes on a second partition on same computer jhutchins_lt06:31
jhutchins_lttheea: Excellent.06:32
jhutchins_lttheea: Do you have it set up to automaticaly mount in Linux?06:32
jhutchins_lttheea: (Mine mounts as just /windows.)06:32
theeai can see that partition on linux but is only readonly jhutchins_lt06:32
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jhutchins_lttheea: In that case, search for MFC42.DLL on it.06:33
theeaand then...06:33
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jhutchins_lttheea: Copy it into where wine keeps it's .dll's.06:33
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jhutchins_lttheea: The other thing to do is make /windows read/write, then have wine point to /windows as C:06:34
jhutchins_lttheea: In which case, if you already have the program installed, you don't need to install it in linux.06:34
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theeahow to make windows read write06:34
jhutchins_lt!ntfs | thea06:34
ubotuthea: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse06:34
jhutchins_lt!ntfs-3g | thea06:35
ubotuthea: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions06:35
jhutchins_lttheea: Sorry, it's taht second one you need.06:35
theeai got it and i jump on it06:35
theeato do it06:35
jhutchins_ltGo get 'er!06:35
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smylanakissorry guys06:40
smylanakisit just did not work06:40
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nosrednaekimjhutchins_lt:  you were saying something about backing up on liveCD? :P06:41
smylanakisso the game is lost? nothing can be done about it?06:41
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nosrednaekimsmylanakis: thats one of the things you can never recover LInux from. Messed up permissions in / (which is what it seems like happened)06:43
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smylanakisare you serius now?06:44
smylanakisnoyhing can be done about it?06:44
nosrednaekimpretty much nothing.06:44
nosrednaekimas far as I know.06:44
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nosrednaekimyou could go hand edit all the permissions back, but that would take forever.06:45
artabrahaoHi, if I remove syslog it the ubuntu will create a new one?06:45
nosrednaekimyeah, I think so06:45
jhutchins_ltartabrahao: Why do you want to do that?06:45
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artabrahaoin the console, How Can I see the system time?06:45
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smylanakisso we leave it like that know ? nothing else can be done ? anybody else please?? anyone ?06:46
nosrednaekimsmylanakis: back up your home folder.06:46
nosrednaekimfor starters.06:46
artabrahao<nosrednaekim> nice, and how can I change it?06:46
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nosrednaekimartabrahao: "man date" will tell you06:47
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wepihawhere do I put kernel module options for a specific module, ie: options snd_ymfpci rear_switch=106:47
Nukedis kubuntu supposed to mount partitions RO?06:47
stdinwepiha: in /etc/modprobe.d/options06:48
zoohousehello eveyone06:48
stdinNuked: what do you mean?06:48
nosrednaekimNuked: NTFS partitions, yes06:48
dave_is there a way of ending process like alt+ctrl+delete does in windows?06:48
zoohousedave_ yes. ctrl esc06:49
nosrednaekimsorry, "ctrl+esc"06:49
Nukedstdin when I look at the grub entry, the kernel is booted with ro, quiet and splash...is that normal06:49
Nukedstdin its a  linux partition06:49
stdinNuked: yeah, it is06:49
dave_aha brilliant cheers for that :D06:49
theeanosrednaekim: i installed ntfs config but i only may check the option enable support write on external device and that does not enable read write on windos06:49
wepihastdin: thanks. after editing will update-modules use that or is a different command required?06:49
Nukedbut if it is ro stdin, how does it make changes to the disk06:49
stdinNuked: it's a security/safety thing, because fsck checks the filesystem at boot, and it needs to be ro06:49
jhutchinssmylanakis: I think the first thing you want to do is make a copy of that essential information somewhere - NOW.06:50
jhutchinssmylanakis: From here on out, anything you do to recover risks wiping that out.06:50
stdinNuked: mount will remount it after, during boot06:50
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Nukedstdin, I have an issue, if you can help, when booting sometimes my computer hangs, and again when it shuts down06:50
theeajhutchins:  i installed ntfs config but i only may check the option enable support write on external device and that does not enable read write on windos06:50
stdinwepiha: it may do, but a reboot is probably better06:51
Nukedis there any chance I could forward you some logs and maybe you could help me come to a conclusion06:51
nosrednaekimNuked: sure, pastebin them.06:51
gumjoI want to compile somthing and it says I need a package called  libstdc++-dev, I've installed it from synaptic but I still get this message06:51
stdinNuked: best thing to do is disable the spashscreen and see what's going on06:51
jhutchinstheea: That's ok, I think that just installing it makes it enabled by default on internal devices, but now you have to set the mount options for your windows partition.06:51
Nukednosrednaekim: the issue is which should I paste?06:51
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jhutchinstheea: What I would do is kdesu kate /etc/fstab06:52
jhutchinstheea: Find the windows mount, and change ro to rw.06:52
stdinNuked: where are the logs from?06:52
nosrednaekimNuked: if it failed on last boot, the try /var/log/messages.006:52
theeajhutchins: kdesu... is a comandline for terminal?06:52
jhutchinssmylanakis: Where do you have space to store those files besides where they are now?06:52
stdintheea: you can run it from the run dialog: Alt+F206:53
jhutchinssmylanakis: And what kinds of files are they - will we need to preserve full ext file details like permissions?06:53
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jhutchinstheea: terminal, or if you are comfortable with a console editor you can use that with sudo, or kate in Alt-F2 as well.06:53
Dou1hey again, I've got kubuntu installed and running and when i go into the package updater, do i really want to upgrade all 80 packages?06:54
stdinjhutchins, theea: DO NOT use sudo with graphical apps06:54
Dou1and how do i make my mouse move faster, acceleration didn't work06:54
stdinDou1: yes, yes you do06:54
nosrednaekimDou1: I never upgrade personally... but yeah, its ussually ok06:54
wepihanosrednaekim: personally, I look forward to them ;)06:55
theeajhutchins: it says that it fdoes not found the file06:55
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nosrednaekimI mean 'update' duh...06:55
Nukednosrednaekim: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29812/06:55
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wepihaespecially compiz-fusion06:55
jhutchinsstdin: right, I said she could use sudo with a console text editor.06:55
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Dou1how do i make my laptop mouse move faster? the acceleration thing didn't work06:56
jhutchinstheea: Which did you do?06:56
nosrednaekimwepiha: ah... indeed06:56
theeai managet it i install it now06:56
jhutchinstheea: You may need to remount the drive...06:57
theeait was kdesu06:57
gumjoI want to compile somthing and it says I need a package called libstdc++-dev, I've installed it but I still get this message06:57
wepihaDou1: settings:/Peripherals/Mouse06:57
Nukedstdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29812/06:58
jhutchinsYea Bucharest!06:58
theeajhutchins are u from bucharest?06:58
stdinNuked: that is MASSIVE, it almost killed my firefox :p06:58
Nukedmy apologies!06:58
wepihagumjo: depending on your needs libstdc++6-4.1-dev should work06:58
mzanfardinoI'm working on a 101-keyboard and want to remap my "super" (win) key to something like caps-lock.  Where do I go to do this?06:58
Nukedstdin: im using bit06:58
jhutchinstheea: No, just cheering you on.06:58
theeai'm from there jhutchins06:59
Nuked64 bit feisty stdin06:59
gumjowepiha, it says it is already installed and newest version06:59
Dou1wepiha: i know that's where i change mouse settings but i don't see a menu like that first of all06:59
Dou1i see system settings06:59
Dou1then keyboard & mouse07:00
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smylanakisi have to store them jhutchins07:00
smylanakisthat it not the matter actually07:00
smylanakisi want to save them ofcourse07:00
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smylanakisbut i had made all those graphics etc settings to work07:01
CapaHDoes anyone here know why I am unable to change my laptop screen resolution to ANYTHING other than 1280x800 and 1024x768 ? I edited xorg.conf, I downloaded and tried using 915resolution, I even deleted all of the display sections in xorg.conf except one to the specific resolution I am trying to achieve (640x480) which 915resolution -l says I support --- and STILL it is identical, no change of any kind --- anyone?07:01
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stdinNuked: It's hard to see what would make it hang. What I think it probably would be is a script that takes a while to finish. To see which one it is, when you turn your computer on, you press Esc and go to the grub menu, then press E and move down to the line starting with "kernel" and press E again, then move to the end of the line remove the word "splash", then press enter and then B07:01
jhutchinssmylanakis: If you tell me more about what the files are, I can help you come up with a strategy to save them, but we're talking about probably deleting everything and re-installing Linux.07:02
Nukedstdin I have done that, and had the computer start normally07:02
jhutchinsCapaH: You have an LCD monitor?07:02
Nukedthen hang on shutdown07:02
CapaHjhutchins: Yes07:03
CapaHlaptop LCD monitor07:03
stdinNuked: you should see what it hangs on when it shuts down tho07:03
theeajhutchins - sudo apt-get install kdebase-bin..........X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16907:03
TheOneRinghi i#m trieing to install kubuntu but the installation seems to hang on step 407:03
jhutchinsCapaH: Very common for those to only support one or two resolutions.07:03
theeajhutchins - kdesu kate /etc/fsta..........X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16907:03
jhutchins!baddevice | thea07:03
ubotuthea: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors07:03
CapaHjhutchins: When I type: 915resolution -l --- it lists plenty of resolutions, and I cannot seem to actually USE any of them07:03
Nukedoh really stdin?07:03
stdintheea: you can ignore all the "BadDevice" errors07:03
theeaFailed to open device07:04
theeakate: not found07:04
jhutchinsI thought kate was installed by default07:04
Nukedhow do I get it to do that stdin? (I booted using your advice...)07:04
jhutchinstheea: sudo apt-get install kate07:04
stdinNuked: if you see something like "Stopping ....." then it hangs you can see what's hanging.07:04
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Nukedjust a black screen stdin07:04
stdinNuked: do you see any messages on shutdown?07:05
Nukednothing but a black screen.. it hangs there stdin07:05
stdinNuked: hmm, what version of kubuntu do you have ?07:05
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Nukedfeisty 64 bit stdin07:06
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stdinNuked: how long does it hang for?07:06
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Nukedindefinitely... I have to manually restart it stdin07:06
theeajhutchins - now is opend default sesion kate what i do07:07
Nukedstdin its only when I login or logout07:07
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jhutchinstheea: Do you see where it defines where your windows partition is?07:07
Nukedor related operations07:07
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theeajhutchins - no07:08
fakhrijhow from indonesia07:08
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Nukedstdin I thought it was the kde login screens fault and gnomes07:08
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fakhriji can't speak english07:08
stdinNuked: hmm, sounds strange07:08
jhutchinstheea: Ah, click "Open session".07:08
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Nukedstdin they both froze badly.. so I tried engage and I experience less login hangs but the same amount of logout hangs07:09
stdin!id | fakhrij07:09
ubotufakhrij: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia07:09
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fakhrijmakasih mas....07:09
theeajhutchins - next step?07:09
jhutchinsNow find that line where the ntfs partition mounts.07:10
stdinNuked: I don't know what would cause that07:10
Nukedstdin I appreciate the help07:11
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theeajhutchins - line or folder?07:12
jhutchinstheea: If you are editing /etc/fstab with kate, you should have a number of lines listing devices and where and how they are to mount.07:13
theeajhutchins - on right side i have the tree with media folder and on right the line area is empty07:14
jhutchinstheea: If you have a filesystem browser button on the left, click that and browse to /etc/fstab07:15
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theeajhutchins - done07:18
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jhutchinstheea: Procede as above, the goal being to change the ntfs partition from ro to rw.07:19
theeajhutchins - you ment the fstab file yes?07:21
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jhutchinstheea: You are editing the fstab to change the line that defines the ntfs partiton.07:21
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CapaHIs there anyone here who can tell me how I can get a 640x480 resolution to work on my LCD laptop monitor? Before I had ubuntu installed, I had windows, and it *worked fine* --- anyone?07:22
CapaHNo matter what I do it *ALWAYS* goes to the native 1280x800 resolution07:23
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spawn57CapaH: what have you tried so far?07:23
MarcCCapaH: can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?07:23
MarcC!pastebin > CapaH07:24
Dou1hmm background images confuse kubuntu i guess?07:24
MarcCDou1: no, they don't07:24
theeajhutchins - if i edit the fstab file then what i should write in it because is empty07:25
Dou1i had an image in home/desktop made it my background, then moved it to home and selected it, and it doesn't work any more07:25
CapaHnm I got it --- all is set07:25
jhutchinstheea: You've made at least one mistake along the way then.  Just close kate - do not save anything.07:25
spawn57CapH: lol happy to help07:26
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jhutchinstheea: Then try kdesu kate /etc/fstab again.07:26
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CapaHWhat do I hit in order to type in the name of a program -- its like ctrl+alt+f1 or something... anyone?07:27
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MarcCCapaH: depends on your keybindings...my system uses WinKey+R07:27
Dou1what do i do to get what i typed above with my background not registering fixed?07:27
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MarcCCapaH: you mean to run a program?07:28
BluesKajCapaH, alt+f207:28
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theeajhutchins - what means this ...UUID=53a756f5-385c-46d6-b6cf-0c101b70f0b2 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 107:28
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patrick__Does anyone know irc server of ubuntustudio, please07:29
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MarcCpatrick__: /join #ubuntustudio?07:29
MarcCwithout the question mark, lol07:29
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jhutchinstheea: That is your main linux partition.07:31
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theeajhutchins - on fstab i found info about floppy and cd only07:32
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pawelHejo polacy07:33
jhutchinstheea: You said your windows partition mounts automatically but is read-only.  Where did you set that up?07:33
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jhutchinsardchoille: One would think so.07:34
theeajhutchins - in media i opend the partition and see the files and folders and when i tried to do something it said that it is readonly07:34
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jhutchinsardchoille: So it looks like it's this whole automount thing.07:34
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ardchoillejhutchins: Does his fstab have ro?07:35
theeajhutchins - when i try right click on that disk it say only unmount option07:35
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jhutchinsardchoille: Says fstab only has cd & floppy.07:35
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jhutchinstheea: Try that, unmount it.07:35
ardchoilletheea: Can you pastebn your /etc/fstab file?07:35
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ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:36
theeaproc /proc proc defaults 0 007:36
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theea# Entry for /dev/hda2 :07:36
theeaUUID=53a756f5-385c-46d6-b6cf-0c101b70f0b2 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 107:36
theea# Entry for /dev/hda5 :07:36
theeaUUID=0494644e-27e0-4251-87bc-73196b6a9068 none swap sw 0 007:36
theea/dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 007:36
theea/dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 007:36
CS5I just wanted to say ty to all the people who helped me here in the last week, I am finally under a beautiful install with everything running beautifully. TY to anyone who is willing to help anyone with our sometimes simple, and some times very advanced troubleshooting and problem solving07:37
ardchoilletheea: is it the /dev/hda2 entry?07:37
jhutchinstheea: When you ran the ntfs-3g tool, did it list your windows partition and where it was mounted?07:37
ardchoillejhutchins: I'm thinking it's /de/hda207:38
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ardchoilleand it hit an error somewhere so remounted ro07:38
theeajhutchins - no just to ckeck that it will work for external device07:38
theeathe hda2 is the linux area for folders hda1 is windows07:38
jhutchinsardchoille: No, we're looking for a windows partition, which I suddenly suspect isn't NTFS after all.07:38
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ardchoilleAh, ok07:39
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ardchoille/dev/hda1 isn't in fstab?07:39
jhutchinstheea: do sudo fdisl -l and paste the output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/07:39
jhutchinstheea: do sudo fdisk -l and paste the output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/07:39
jhutchinsnot fdisl.07:40
wonko_do not use fdisl!!!07:40
wonko_it is dangerous07:40
ardchoillejhutchins: What happens if you run an NTFS tool on a non NTFS part?07:40
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jhutchinsardchoille: Nothin.07:41
theeafdisk is not only for ntfs07:41
CS5wonko_ why is dangerous?07:41
theeais also for fat3207:41
theeait manages partitions07:41
ardchoilleI was referring to the ntfs-3g tool07:41
jhutchinsardchoille: It won't even show a non-ntfs partition.07:41
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CS5wonko_: why is dangerous?07:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fdisl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:42
theeaquestion if win syustem crushed and i dont know oit may appears like it does?07:42
wonko_CS5: it stands for dislocate07:42
jhutchinsActually, fdisl is pretty safe - seeing as it does't do anything.07:42
jhutchinstheea: do sudo fdisk -l and paste the output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/07:42
CS5ic, ty07:42
jhutchinsI think wonko is just trying to have some fun with us.07:43
wonko_sry, i thought i was in #nethack... it was of course a bad attempt at a joke07:44
wonko_didn't mean to confuse you07:44
CS5no worries, without you saying it, I wouldnt have questioned it.07:44
CS5Learn something everywhere.07:45
theeajhutchins - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29818/07:45
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ardchoillewonko_: lol07:46
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ardchoillejhutchins: his /dev/hda1 is present and is NTFS, but it doesn't seem to be in fstab so I'm wondering how it gets automounted07:47
theeaard god knows07:47
jhutchinsardchoille: All this fuse/hotplug/udev stuff probably.07:47
ardchoilleoh, grrr07:48
jhutchinstheea: I'm going to suggest that you reboot, then run the ntfs tool again and see if it sees the drive.07:48
theeaok see u after reboot. i must add that i may use windows using grub at startup07:48
jhutchinstheea: You can't do anything to the linux system with windows, but that's fine with me, whatever.07:49
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sunmenkto nibyd zdes po russki govorit07:54
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theeajhutchins: now it opens i check hda1 but is asking <Click here to set a mount point>07:54
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term1n4lLinux vaio 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Thu Jun 7 20:19:32 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux07:55
jhutchinstheea: It's your computer, you decide where to mount it.  That was the problem.07:55
sunmenzdes kto nibud po russki govorit07:55
theeagimmie again where i can paste you the error message jhutchins07:56
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:57
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meuhlolsunmen: da, no07:58
meuhlol!ru | sunmen07:58
ubotusunmen:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke07:58
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theeai must shut down clean windows then to mount that07:58
theeaso brb07:58
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jlalguien me puede ayudar por favor08:04
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ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.08:04
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term1n4lHello all, this is my first time here on this server. Is this a live support channel, or a canned response bot support channel?08:05
tsdgeosterm1n4l: this is not a support channel per se08:05
tsdgeosit's a user channel08:05
tsdgeosand maybe someone wants to help you08:05
term1n4loh ok cool08:06
term1n4lI was a bit currious. I'm kind of new to Linux and Ubuntu so I'm trying everything out.08:06
jhutchins_lttsdgeos: Good answer.08:06
tsdgeosjhutchins_lt: ;-)08:07
vzduchcurrious?  what do you taste like? :D08:08
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term1n4lare there any ongoing user channel discussions at the moment?08:09
vzduchabout what?08:09
term1n4lI don't know, thats why I'm asking. =P08:09
jhutchins_ltterm1n4l: Well, theea is working on getting a windows program installed, just got the windows partition to mount read/write.08:09
jhutchins_ltterm1n4l: 'Cause right now it looks dead.08:10
term1n4lOh, ok then, was wine not an option?08:10
jhutchins_ltAn hour ago, there were five different discussions happening at once.08:10
vzduchI think I have read somewhere that it's not recommended to use files off a 'real' Windows installation in Wine08:10
jhutchins_ltterm1n4l: Missing a DLL, so we got the windows partition mounted and are going to piont the wine config at that.08:10
term1n4loh ok cool, so if i stick around, things can change rather abruptly?08:10
term1n4loh, d/ling the dll wasn't working either?08:11
CS5Oh yes...08:11
CS5ask and someone shall answer08:11
ubotu   #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke08:12
jhutchins_ltvzduch: I have an old Windows 95 partition, and had Quicken installed on the server through that.  It won't boot any more - current hardware not supported - but I can still run that installation of quicken if I make /windows = C: in wine.08:12
CS5you can do that with wine?08:12
jhutchins_ltCS5: Well, clearly _I_ can...08:13
CS5I guess....lol08:13
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term1n4lI was surprised at how much wine has evolved. I am now able to use macromedia flash on my linux machines.08:13
jhutchins_ltCS5: That was originally how you had to set it up.08:13
jhutchins_ltterm1n4l: Yeah, but we have native flash in linux now too.08:13
CS5jhutchins_it: I still haven't used it.08:13
term1n4lsysfig right?08:14
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term1n4lor synfig or something08:14
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CS5jhutchins_it: I've read alot about it, but I use linux for everything now, except my 3d games.08:14
CS5windows suffices for that08:14
jhutchins_ltor cfg.sys08:14
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term1n4li meant the 2d vector animation program in linux08:14
RugCS5: lots of good games08:15
jhutchins_ltYeah, I've just never transferred all the old data from Quicken.  I should probably just start from scratch, but I don't like gnucash.08:15
vzduchjhutchins_lt: how about KMyMoney?08:15
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CS5rug: for linux you mean?08:15
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RugCS5: yupp08:15
jhutchins_lthaven't put the time in.08:15
CS5rug: any links to starting places for some?08:15
CS5rug: good ones....08:16
RugCS5: funny.  It's all opinion.08:16
sunmenmojno vsego odin vopros v ubuntu-ru nikto ne znaet pochemo Konqueror otkazivaetsa zagrujat stranitsi08:16
jhutchins_ltHello sunmen, do you speak english?08:16
vzduchsunmen: speak English here man08:16
CS5Yeah, true, like driver, first person shooters or anything?08:17
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RugCS5: start here - http://gaming.gwos.org/news.php08:17
CS5rug: ty08:17
sunmenhello people08:17
CS5there are language specific channels aren't there?08:18
CS5ah he speaks....08:18
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RugCS5: what you need?08:18
theeathank you jhutchins08:18
vzduchmy Russian is a but rusty, to say the least.. looks like he wants to say that nobody in #ubuntu-ru was able to help him..08:19
theeaand also to all others i finally made it08:19
jhutchins_lttheea: A fine little adventure.08:19
CS5rug: nothing specific at the moment, just checking out that site.08:19
RugCS5: Enemy Territory, Padman, Nexuis, tremulous are all excellent FPS08:20
tsdgeosPenumbra looked cool here before it took my machine down :D08:21
CS5wow this thunder and lightning looks wicked08:21
vzduch!cs > vzduch08:21
CS5Rug: ty, nice start.08:21
RugQuake Ware will rock08:21
term1n4lRug: thanks man, that is an awsome site.08:21
sunmenpeople who know why konqueror refuse load web-page?08:22
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vzduchsunmen: what page?08:23
CS5Rug: I dont even need wine for these, eh?08:23
RugCS5: nope08:23
CS5Rug: Ty so much.08:24
RugYou are welcome.  I didn't create the page.08:24
CS5no but you enlightened me.08:24
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RugCS5: a fast d'load link for some of those is my mirror:   o2kewl.net08:24
theeajhutchins: there is a chanel for romanians that use ubuntu?08:24
ubotuDaca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro08:25
CS5rug: i didnt think linux had much in the way of 'games', i was misinformed, big time08:25
theeathankx folks08:25
RugCS5: It's getting better bery quickly08:25
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RugI can type better whne I am not watching a movie08:26
nosrednaekimCS5: yeah, I love flightgear... its amazing08:26
CS5rug: np, i am reading tons of these and downloading like a madman08:26
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RugCS5: enjoy.   What kind of game do you enjoy the most?08:27
vzduchsunmen: which webpage are you trying to load w/ Konqueror?08:27
CS5rug: i was really into Halo for a while.08:28
CS5rug: need for speed and such, i Love helicopter sims.08:28
CS5i have some good ones for apache sims on win.08:28
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nosrednaekimwine can run some of those...08:28
vltHello. I've installed Kubuntu 7.0.4, and sometimes Konqueror can't access some sites (or even localhost) while curl or elinks work fine. What could be a reason for this behavior?08:28
nosrednaekimI've heard things about comache3 I think its called08:29
CS5i can mount them where they sit and run them in wine?08:29
RugCS5: Then ET is the game for you.  If you like RPGs' I suggest you play NeverWinterNights You can buy it in the bargin bins for like $5 and it plays better on Linux then it ever did on Windows.08:29
nosrednaekimvlt: knetowrkmanager is probably telling it you are not connected08:29
CS5rug: nice....08:29
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CS5:) da da da dah dah, im lovin it08:29
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SloikOh Wait08:29
DaSkreechDoes Kubuntu ship with Support for UPS?08:29
SloikDo all USB Hard Drive enclosures work with Linux fairly well?08:30
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