[12:15] <shadowhywind> i wont, i will let qtparted handle it, after i backup all the data. i will probabley just reformat it
[12:15] <runlevelten> much safer to back up your stuff and reinstall, to be painfully honest
[12:15] <Whiz2_> i use ntfs-3g on a daily basis with my linux server
[12:17] <shadowhywind> thanks for all the info
[12:17] <runlevelten> np =)
[12:18] <runlevelten> Greetings, Dark Lord :)
[12:20] <ijul> hello?
[12:20] <runlevelten> hello ijul
[12:21] <ijul> hey there, I'm looking for help with ndiswrapper
[12:21] <melkor> I just stuck on a usb 2.0 hub, and anything I jook to it gets power, but my computer wont create the appropriate device.
[12:21] <ijul> can you help me?
[12:21] <ijul> I have just plugged in a USB wifi network interface and successfully installed the windows driver with ndiswrapper, so far so good
[12:22] <ijul> but I must miss a step somewhere. It's plugged and detected, now what do I do to actually use it?
[12:23] <TeraDyne> ijul: "sudo ndiswrapper -m && sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" Will activate ndiswrapper. It should show up in knetworkmanager.
[12:23] <melkor> ijul do you know the device name for it.
[12:24] <juhorner25> Just a quick question to the Linux programmers
[12:24] <TeraDyne> ijul: That will have to be entered in a Konsole window
[12:24] <juhorner25> What IDE or program do you prefer for C++ or Java?
[12:24] <juhorner25> Somebody recommended Anjuta IDE, what do you think?
[12:25] <ijul> ok, let me try, the first command (ndiswrapper -m) gives output: adding alias wlan0 ndiswrapper to /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper
[12:25] <TeraDyne> juhorner25: Wrong channel. That's better suited for the developer channels. #ubuntu-devel or #kubuntu-devel
[12:25] <juhorner25> Oh okay
[12:25] <juhorner25> Sorry
[12:25] <runlevelten> anjuta is very good and simple for small projects
[12:25] <juhorner25> Thanks
[12:25] <r00t_> cd ui
[12:25] <r00t_> ls
[12:25] <ed__> i need some help.  my kubuntu 6.10 kde 3.5.5 xserver is coming up stuck in 640x480 mode.  System Settings->Monitor & Display says "Monitor & Display module could not be loaded". Possible reasons listed are that an error occurred during the last KDE upgrade leaving an "orphaned control module", or that I have an "old third party module lying around".  I didn't upgrade KDE but I had used Adept to install a few things since last reboot.
[12:25] <runlevelten> kdevelop is good, so is emacs
[12:25] <juhorner25> Thanks a lot runlevelten
[12:25] <juhorner25> Saved me a channel jump
[12:25] <juhorner25> :-D
[12:25] <runlevelten> eclipse and netbeans for java
[12:25] <ed__> anyone have any clues?
[12:26] <runlevelten> netbeans now is really coming into its own
[12:26] <runlevelten> definitely give that a shot
[12:26] <juhorner25> Is that java exclusive?
[12:26] <BluesKaj> ed__, sudo dpkg --configure -a,  in the konsole
[12:26] <BluesKaj> then relogin
[12:27] <runlevelten> well, not "exclusive" per se, but I only use it for java
[12:27] <juhorner25> Oh okay
[12:27] <runlevelten> it's much better than most now. Really quite good
[12:27] <mneptok> juhorner25: jEdit is in any smart Java dev's utility belt ;)
[12:27] <ed__> sweet, i will try that, thx blueskaj.
[12:28] <juhorner25> Well right now I use C++ and C#
[12:28] <juhorner25> I am taking 3 Java classes this year though
[12:28] <runlevelten> Well I use emacs which is great if you know it, and anjuta, and  kdevelop is quite good.
[12:28] <mneptok> juhorner25: http://jedit.sf.net
[12:28] <runlevelten> have you tried the mono IDE?
[12:28] <runlevelten> for C#
[12:29] <juhorner25> I'm just now making the jump to Linux and trying to bring over my programming with me
[12:29] <juhorner25> I really don't know any of the compilers or IDEs in Linux yet
[12:29] <juhorner25> I just heard about Anjuta
[12:29] <runlevelten> Yeah I figured from the question, which is why I would say anjuta's a good start
[12:29] <TeraDyne> JEdit... The only real GUI editor I use in windows. Well, unless you count GVim.
[12:30] <juhorner25> I used Visual Studio for my C# and Dev C++ for my C++ stuff
[12:30] <runlevelten> doesn't get in the way
[12:30] <ijul_> TeraDyne: it works
[12:30] <ijul_> thank you :)
[12:30] <runlevelten> anjuta is more like devc++
[12:30] <TeraDyne> ijul: No problem.
[12:30] <juhorner25> Sweet
[12:30] <ijul_> I have another question, though...
[12:30] <TeraDyne> ijul_: go ahead.
[12:30] <runlevelten> kdevelop isn't really like vs, but it does have more tools integrated than most IDEs
[12:31] <juhorner25> In the long run the most important thing for me is having a stable and reliable C++ compiler or IDE
[12:31] <juhorner25> Since that is what I will be doing the most
[12:31] <ijul_> I have two graphic cards sitting on my desk: an Nvidia quadro, which is quite old, but has good results on Beryl and Kubuntu in general
[12:31] <juhorner25> I will check out the ones you guys mentioned
[12:31] <juhorner25> Thanks a lot for the suggestions
[12:31] <runlevelten> and if you use Qt, the Qt GUI designer is as good as the vs one once you're used to Qt
[12:31] <ijul_> and an ATI radeon 7200, which is fairly recent in comparison, but it runs kinda slow with beryl, and even with KDE :s
[12:31] <runlevelten> stable reliable easy to get into = anjuta
[12:31] <runlevelten> np man - good luck
[12:32] <ijul_> so I would like to make clear once and for all, which do you think is best?
[12:32] <juhorner25> But will anjuta be able to handle larger programs?
[12:32] <ed__> BluesKaj:  no joy, totally rebooted but still stuck in 640x480 with same error message
[12:32] <juhorner25> As far as some game development?
[12:33] <TeraDyne> ijul_: I usually suggest the one that works best. In your situation, the Nvidia quadro.
[12:33] <BluesKaj> ed__, ok then try this ; sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:33] <runlevelten> well, define handle, heh
[12:33] <ijul_> TeraDyne: ok. Thanks :)
[12:33] <runlevelten> You won't get any massive problems, however if you want lots of integration for testing tools and stuff, kdevelop might be more up your street
[12:34] <juhorner25> lol well you did say it was for good for small projects
[12:34] <juhorner25> I'll test both of them out
[12:34] <ed__> ok, done,rebooting...
[12:34] <runlevelten> glhf
[12:35] <juhorner25> Thanks, take care every one
[12:37] <mido> hhh
[12:37] <TeraDyne> runlevelten: You said you use emacs. Is it hard to learn?
[12:38] <Timmm> yo?
[12:38] <Timmm> can anyone help me with ubuntu?
[12:38] <ed__> BluesKaj:  no joy
[12:39] <TeraDyne> Timmm: Ubuntu help is in #ubuntu
[12:39] <TeraDyne> Timmm: This is for Kubuntu
[12:39] <Timmm> ah thx
[12:39] <ed__> still stuck in 640x480
[12:40] <runlevelten> TeraDyne: not really
[12:40] <dave__> what does fiesty fawn mean? :o
[12:41] <runlevelten> you just need a cheat sheet. Also if you're a vi fan there are vi modes for it :)
[12:41] <TeraDyne> runlevelten: Ok. I'll give it a shot, then. I use VIM, so how hard could it be?
[12:41] <runlevelten> I think it's called "viper-mode"
[12:41] <TeraDyne> dave__: It's just a code name for the release.
[12:41] <Impy^> ahh :)
[12:41] <Impy^> k
[12:42] <TeraDyne> runlevelten: Ok. Thanks.
[12:42] <runlevelten> TeraDyne: it's a nice fun editor, IDE, kitchen sink etc
[12:42] <Impy^> is kopete the best for msn?
[12:42] <runlevelten> I do have zile installed for "just plain text editing" though
[12:42] <runlevelten> Zile Is Lossy Emacs ;)
[12:42] <TeraDyne> runlevelten: I don't need a kitchen sink. I've got one only two rooms away that works good enough. ;)
[12:42] <ADiCT3D> Hey guys!
[12:42] <darkcrash> bellaaaa
[12:43] <dustin_> i mix a whiskey drink
[12:43] <dustin_> i mix a vodka drink, and when i have to puke, i use the kitchen sink ;)
[12:43] <ADiCT3D> Can someone point me in the direction to convert mp3's to ringtones?
[12:43] <darkcrash> merda,,ma tutti inglesi?
[12:43] <runlevelten> TeraDyne: just don't type M-x tetris if you have anything to do, heh
[12:43] <TeraDyne> Tubthumper... I almost forgot that song...
[12:43] <darkcrash> italian ?
[12:43] <TeraDyne> runlevelten: Will do.
[12:43] <runlevelten> ADiCT3D: send them to your phone using bluetooth.
[12:44] <ADiCT3D> runlevelten: No i need to convert the mp3's into amr/mxff or sumtin format
[12:46] <runlevelten> depends on the phone. These days, try the mp3 first, heh.
[12:46] <ADiCT3D> i have and ogg and m4a and a ton others only wav works but i know amr does but wav makes MASSIVE huge files
[12:46] <ADiCT3D> it plays mp3's and m4a's and all that but it wont work for ringtones
[12:47] <runlevelten> wow, that's harsh
[12:47] <BluesKaj> ADiCT3D, use soundkonvertor for mp3 conversion from wav
[12:47] <runlevelten> what phone is that then?
[12:47] <ADiCT3D> BluesKaj: No, I need to convert FROM an mp3 file TO an AMR file, Nokia 6133
[12:48] <BluesKaj> why don't upu ask in the nokia chat?
[12:48] <bronze-> IMPORTANT: Is is safe to delete all folders in home directory starting with . ? The hidden configuration folders. I'm going to install another distro, so I'm just going to shut down the PC right after I delete the folders.
[12:49] <ADiCT3D> BluesKaj: This is linux...I need help with doing it in Linux..not a phone issue haha i could install winblows and buy an app to convert but i wanna do it on nix
[12:49] <Chousuke> bronze-: should be safe, if you want to lose all your settings
[12:50] <BluesKaj> mp3s are mp3s , whether they're in windows or linux
[12:50] <ed__> back for more clues... display still stuck in 640x480, System Settings -> Monitor & Display still says module Monitor & Display could not be loaded.
[12:50] <Chousuke> BluesKaj: he doesn't want mp3s
[12:50] <Chousuke> I wonder what those AMR files are.
[12:51] <flake> can i create another user on my box and cut down on all the services I don't need in order to make it a gaming rig, or are the services universal no matter who is logged in?
[12:51] <ADiCT3D> BluesKaj: Dude...i dont care about the input format i need to convert an mp3/wav INTO an amr file..and i need help doing so..cause i tried several things and i cant find an app that will do it
[12:51] <Chousuke> ADiCT3D: do you have any amr files at hand?
[12:51] <BluesKaj> ed__, looks like you may need to reconfigure you xorg.conf file
[12:51] <ADiCT3D> Chousuke: Only on my phone i cant send em
[12:52] <Chousuke> ADiCT3D: could you move them to your computer?
[12:52] <ed__> BluesKaj, how?
[12:52] <Chousuke> So that you could run the "file" utility on one of them
[12:52] <Chousuke> to know what format they are
[12:52] <ADiCT3D> Chousuke: Dont think so its in phones memory
[12:52] <Chousuke> hmm :/
[12:52] <ADiCT3D> Chousuke: http://rudd-o.com/archives/2006/09/18/convert-wav-mp3-files-to-amr-in-linux-using-gstreamer/ That wont work
[12:52] <BluesKaj> ADiCT3D, tha's why i suggested you goto a chat theat has something to do with the destination file..like perhaps your phone ..nokia ..get it ?
[12:53] <Chousuke> ADiCT3D: how does it fail?
[12:53] <BluesKaj> ed__, in the terminal : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:53] <ADiCT3D> Chousuke: Cant find the amrnbenc cmd
[12:54] <ed__> i'll try that, thx!
[12:54] <Chousuke> ADiCT3D: did tyou install gstreamer-plugins-ugly?
[12:55] <Impy^> how do i know which version of kubuntu i'm using? :o
[12:55] <ADiCT3D> Ch
[12:55] <ADiCT3D> Chousuke: Yes
[12:55] <Chousuke> ADiCT3D: or rather, gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse
[12:56] <Chousuke> get that one and try again
[12:57] <ADiCT3D> going to reinstall
[12:57] <ADiCT3D> i had both gstreamer .8 and .10 installed
[12:57] <K-Ryan> !version | impy^
[12:57] <ubotu> impy^: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[12:57] <Chousuke> ADiCT3D: shouldn't matter.
[12:57] <Impy^> shell = konsole?
[12:57] <K-Ryan> Correct
[12:57] <Goldy> hi
[12:57] <tino097> how to install PES 6 ? link to guide or something
[12:58] <facugaich> tino097: PES 6 works in linux?
[12:58] <Impy^> feisty :)
[12:58] <ADiCT3D> Chousuke: WARNING: erroneous pipeline: no element "amrnbenc"
[12:58] <BluesKaj> Impy^, yes
[12:58] <Impy^> is fiesty the latest?
[12:58] <Impy^> cheers for that btw :)
[12:58] <Chousuke> ADiCT3D: hmm
[12:58] <Impy^> 7.04
[12:58] <K-Ryan> Yes Impy^, it is
[12:58] <K-Ryan> You're welcome ;)
[12:58] <Impy^> ahh k cheer s:)
[12:58] <BluesKaj> Impy^, offical release , yes
[12:59] <Impy^> :D
 i think so, iread on ubuntu forums that some guys managed to install
[12:59] <Chousuke> ADiCT3D: Then I don't know
[12:59] <Goldy> someone how speak french?
[12:59] <K-Ryan> !fr
[12:59] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:59] <runlevelten_> ffmpeg -i blablah.mp3  -ac 1 -f amr -acodec amr myoutputfile
[01:00] <ADiCT3D> runlevelten_: Unknown input or output format: amr
 i try with cedega but i think i have some premision isue problems with DVD rom
[01:00] <MidNight_SunRay> hi ppl
[01:00] <MidNight_SunRay> does anyone know how i can force KDE to mount my portable hd always on /media/LACIE, instead of sda1 or sdb1 ???
[01:01] <ADiCT3D> !fstab
[01:01] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[01:02] <MidNight_SunRay> ADiCT3D, ok
[01:02] <MidNight_SunRay> but what if it's sometimes called sda1 and some other sdb1 ?
[01:03] <ADiCT3D> MidNight_SunRay: you dont need that you need the /dev adress if it changes that just means another drive is in i do believe but can someone double check?
[01:03] <BluesKaj> tino097, do you have libdvdcss2 installed ? it may help
[01:04] <MidNight_SunRay> i gues you're right ADiCT3D
[01:04] <MidNight_SunRay> so do i just need to plug it in for first?
[01:04] <ADiCT3D> MidNight_SunRay: best way to find out is to open like gparted yes you need it plugged in but fstab should be used for drives that dont move imo
[01:05] <ADiCT3D> MidNight_SunRay: If you unplug it sometimes i'd just create a mount script
[01:05] <MidNight_SunRay> ADiCT3D, which kind of script?
[01:06] <ADiCT3D> MidNight_SunRay: a bash script dot sh file..im a noob when it comes to scripts :P
 i dont have that libary, where to found?
[01:08] <runlevelten> right, I must go to bed.
[01:08] <BluesKaj> !libdvdcss2
[01:08] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[01:08] <runlevelten> ADiCT3D: there was something wrong with the command I gave you. It should work if you fix it up, no time to play with it now though
[01:09] <runlevelten> sorry about that man
[01:09] <ADiCT3D> runlevelten: i dont know how haha im searching ubuntu forums
[01:09] <runlevelten> night all
thanks
[01:09] <BluesKaj> tino097, hope it helps
[01:10] <runlevelten> I'd love to help more, but there comes a time to spend time with the missus :)
[01:10] <runlevelten> night all... again, ha
[01:16] <Impy^> aha finally got windows files showing :D
[01:18] <bia> wie komm ich zum deutschen kanal?
[01:20] <ed__> BluesKaj:  I reconfigured xorg.conf.  Monitor & Display dialog returned, allowed 1024x768 selection, but res reverted to 640x480 on X restart...
[01:20] <bia> wie  komm ich zum deutschen chat?
[01:21] <AmyRose> !de | bia
[01:21] <ubotu> bia: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:21] <bia> i need help in german  langues
[01:21] <bia> danke, thanks, mercy
[01:21] <vzduch> s/mercy/merci/
[01:21] <AmyRose> bia: You're welcome, but you're always welcome to try here too in English :)
[01:22] <Impy^> is there a better alternative to kopete for msn on kubuntu?
[01:22] <AmyRose> Impy^: amsn
[01:22] <Impy^> is that better? :)
[01:23] <AmyRose> Impy^: Yeah, it's better than Kopete at MSN :)
[01:23] <Impy^> ahh k wicked will have a look for it now :D
[01:23] <Impy^> thanks :D
[01:23] <AmyRose> you're welcome, Impy^
[01:23] <AmyRose> It does custom smileys, voice clips, and webcams now too
[01:23] <Impy^> ahh class :)
[01:23] <Impy^> thanks :)
[01:24] <AmyRose> Yeah, I would use it more but I prefer Kopete because my friends are about evenly distributed among AIM, Yahoo, and MSN, so having a universal client is more suitable to me
[01:24] <Impy^> :)
[01:24] <Impy^> i love opensource fairplay :D
[01:24] <Impy^> it's sooo brilliant :)
[01:25] <Impy^> people working together for better and free software :D
[01:25] <BluesKaj> ed__, now you have to go into system settings/monitor and display/ admin mode/hardware drivers and find the drivers applicablke to your card and monitor and then you should be able to change you resolution.
[01:27] <r00t_> AHHHHH!!!!  a virus has infected my MBR can someone help me defeat this vile foe?
[01:28] <Minataku> !grub
[01:28] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:28] <r00t_> thanks
[01:28] <AmyRose> Impy^: Yeah, it's great :D
[01:28] <Minataku> That was a joke, BTW... I'm assuming you installed Windows after Kubuntu and the NTLDR chainloader is the virus XD
[01:28] <sandro__> salve
[01:29] <TeraDyne> Impy^: I found a KDE based MSN client. http://www.kmess.org/
[01:29] <sandro__> is there any italian?
[01:29] <AmyRose> Minataku: Yeah, Windows is a virus :P
[01:29] <r00t_> Minataku: yes windows was the virus i was refering to.
[01:29] <mneptok> !it > sandro__
[01:29] <Minataku> Ah
[01:29] <AmyRose> TeraDyne: It doesn't do as much as amsn though.
[01:29] <Minataku> Cool :3
[01:29] <sandro__> !it
[01:29] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:29] <AmyRose> TeraDyne: It's actually worse than Kopete
[01:30] <TeraDyne> AmyRose: It's still an alternative, though. It's best to know what choices you have. ;)
[01:30] <cs5> Is there anyone around that can help me setup dapper to use big desktop?
[01:30] <MarcC> cs5: big desktop?
[01:30] <Minataku> Dapper is OLD :o
[01:30] <AmyRose> TeraDyne: True...
[01:30] <Minataku> And do you mean Xinerama?
[01:31] <Minataku> To stretch one X11 desktop across two (or more) displays?
[01:31] <AmyRose> cs5: If you want to use Kubuntu as a desktop OS, you should try Feisty instead
[01:31] <TeraDyne> Minataku: Old isn't the term I'd use. Too lenient. XD
[01:32] <cs5> i cant install or upgrade to it.
[01:32] <Minataku> TeraDyne: Perhaps... "ass-old"
[01:32] <Minataku> :D
[01:32] <TeraDyne> Minataku: Better. XD
[01:32] <MarcC> dapper's still supported, right?
[01:32] <cs5> or i would be, three days of trying and multiple installs. They all freeze, and upgrading breaks my system BAD
[01:33] <TeraDyne> MarcC: Yes. I think it's 3 years of support after release date for Dapper.
[01:33] <Impy^> teradyne what's a kde based msn client?
[01:33] <cs5> ATI has me bangin my head off a wall as someone so elequently stated
[01:33] <TeraDyne> Impy^: http://www.kmess.org/
[01:34] <MarcC> cs5: tried any howtos?
[01:34] <Impy^> is that better than amsn?
[01:34] <cs5> All of them I think
[01:34] <TeraDyne> Impy^: No, but it's an option if you ever want to try it.
[01:34] <cs5> Nothing seems to go right. Maybe I am to new to this. I have been trying to deal with my video issues and upgrades at the same time.
[01:35] <Impy^> ahh k cheers i'll check it out
[01:35] <Impy^> amsn is very ugly :o
[01:35] <MarcC> cs5, can you get it working ok with *one* monitor?
[01:35] <r00t_> see you guys ive got a virus to defeat
[01:35] <cs5> Oh yes, beautifully.
[01:35] <cs5> i just need help setting up the multiple heads
[01:36] <cs5> thats to marcc
[01:37] <MarcC> cs5: I'm afraid I can't be of much help...I use large screens instead of dual-screen right now
[01:37] <cs5> np, ty for tryin
[01:37] <cs5> I guess i'll suffer with the virtual desktops
[01:37] <cs5> :(
[01:41] <cs5> how bout a camera issue....anyone, anyone?
[01:42] <cs5> says my port settings may be wrong, but it is a usb that is supposed to be no config neccesary
[01:43] <Biovore> usb (still picture) camera?
[01:43] <cs5> well still and video
[01:43] <MarcC> cs5: is this on first-use or have you tried it multiple times?
[01:43] <cs5> no, today is the first day on linux, works well on windows
[01:43] <cs5> linux finds it but wont lock it
[01:43] <nosrednaekim> whats the problem?
[01:44] <Biovore> cs5: is it a Mass Storage device or something custom?
[01:44] <cs5> naw, just a concord eye-q mini.Unable to initialize camera. Check your port settings and camera connectivity and try again.
[01:44] <cs5> just takes like 30 pics and some video
[01:45] <MarcC> ah, one of those little guys
[01:45] <cs5> yep
[01:45] <MarcC> might want to look up the hardware ID inside (not branding) and google that with linux as part of the query
[01:46] <cs5> alright
[01:46] <BluesKaj> cs5, is your camera more than 4 yrs old ?
[01:46] <cs5> mmmmm, no bout 3 though
[01:46] <cs5> Kubuntu picks it up ok like i said, but for some reason wont access it
[01:47] <nosrednaekim> cs5: did you try digiKam?
[01:47] <nosrednaekim> sometimes that will do it when konqueror won't
[01:47] <cs5> just the kubuntu dapper digital camera interface and tried to goto it camera:\
[01:47] <Biovore> cs5: http://www.teaser.fr/~hfiguiere/linux/digicam.html
[01:47] <BluesKaj> hmm...my old samsung camera smartcard couldn't be read by kubuntu or windows on this pc
[01:47] <nosrednaekim> cs5: oh... dapper.
[01:48] <cs5> lol....i know old....
[01:48] <cs5> :|
[01:48] <nosrednaekim> yeah, but it should still work. Do you have digiKam installed?
[01:50] <cs5> nosrednaekim: nope, going to get it. Is it in the repositories?
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> cs5: should be.
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> yep, it is.
[01:52] <nosrednaekim> if you have universe enabled
[01:52] <cs5> in the teaser.fr it says i should use digikam2
[01:52] <meuhlol> cs5 a propos?
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> cs5: doesn't matter.
[01:53] <cs5> ok
[01:56] <TeraDyne> Here's a slightly stupid question... Why don't the include the digikam docs by DEFAULT?
[01:56] <nosrednaekim> yeah, I think they should include all docs by default
[01:57] <MarcC> developers like to separate packages to give them a better chance at improvement
[01:57] <MarcC> Sven is talking about doing that with certain parts of GIMP that are now integrated.
[01:58] <TeraDyne> MarcC: True, but I have to go out and install the docs. They should be in the release versions of the distro by default.
[01:58] <MarcC> it's a little bit of a pain for users, but that could probably be fixed by improving the usability of e.g. synaptic
[01:58] <Sanne> TeraDyne: Debian based distros mostly have very modular packages. I think it's ok, you can download only those packages you need.
[01:59] <cs5> thats ok, it isn't in my repositories that i can see
[01:59] <cs5> lol
[01:59] <TeraDyne> Sanne: ?
[01:59] <Sanne> yes?
[02:00] <TeraDyne> I mean that it's a pain to go out and get what should be in the distro by default. I don't mind it, but it's a PITA to be recording something and find out that the docs to the app you're talking about aren't there,
[02:01] <Sanne> TeraDyne: yes, that's annoying. But it would be very annoying to have to get the docs with no possibility *not* to install them. They can be very large.
[02:02] <Biteyni> hellO?
[02:02] <AmyRose> Hello, Biteyni
[02:02] <TeraDyne> Sanne: While true, if Kubuntu is going to be marketed to the other OS users, it needs to have the needed docs and help manuals. Otherwise, it's just going to anger those people.
[02:02] <Biteyni> hi, i was wondering if you could help me
[02:02] <AmyRose> !ask | Biteyni
[02:02] <ubotu> Biteyni: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:04] <Sanne> TeraDyne: I agree, but, as always, it's a matter of priorities. Make most things easy for new users and annoy the others, or vice versa :).
[02:04] <Biteyni> alright, I have tried installing ubuntu. i booted from cd and i chose the option "start ubuntu in safe graphics mode"
[02:04] <cs5> digikam sight only has repositories for edgy and feisty, does that mean im S.O.L.?
[02:04] <Biteyni> the screen stays black and doesn't load the desktop where the install icon is at
[02:04] <cs5> site*
[02:04] <TeraDyne> !info digikam dapper
[02:05] <ubotu> digikam: digital photo management application for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.2~rc1-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 4077 kB, installed size 9724 kB
[02:05] <AmyRose> Biteyni: I'm assuming you tried the normal mode first; am I right?
[02:05] <cs5> ty teradyne
[02:05] <TeraDyne> cs5:  No problem
[02:06] <Biteyni> well this is my first time im following this: http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu and im following the install to keep my windows partition
[02:06] <Biteyni> it told me to do "Start Ubuntu in safe graphics mode"
[02:07] <AmyRose> Biteyni: Well, that should only be used if the "Start or Install Ubuntu" option didn't work
[02:07] <Biteyni> o ok thankyou
[02:07] <AmyRose> you're welcome
[02:07] <Biteyni> so the regular option first
[02:07] <AmyRose> yeah, Biteyni, and let us know if you have any trouble with that mode :)
[02:07] <Biteyni> im new at this
[02:08] <Biteyni> so all the help i can get is good :)
[02:08] <AmyRose> Biteyni: I understand. I remember when I was a newbie too :)
[02:08] <intelikey> ok i'm ignorant, what is sdl ?
[02:08] <Doug_> Hey I'm a noob to Linux, tried a couple distros, but right now I'm downloading feisty fawn and was wondering where i could get tutorials and things like that on how to access the power of linux
[02:08] <Biteyni> thanks amyrose! thanks for helping me.. I tried searching the net for this answer! thanks sooo much! i will go and see if it works ill be back!
[02:09] <AmyRose> Biteyni: You're welcome
[02:09] <intelikey> Could not initialize SDL - exiting
[02:09] <intelikey> ?
[02:09] <AmyRose> intelikey: SDL is the most common library for writing games on Linuix
[02:09] <AmyRose> Linux*
[02:09] <AmyRose> intelikey: It's sort of Linux's equivalent to DirectX
[02:10] <intelikey> so why would qemu care about that ?
[02:10] <AmyRose> intelikey: Because Qemu uses SDL for input, video, and audio
[02:10] <ADiCT3D> US Supreme Court Rules No Free Speech for Students !!!!
[02:10] <_4strO> Doug_: all the ubuntu websites, wiki, forum, ...
[02:11] <Doug_> ok, thanks _4strO
[02:11] <intelikey> AmyRose then let me "assume" that qemu only works inside of X  ???
[02:11] <AmyRose> intelikey: It stands for Simple Directmedia Layer
[02:11] <AmyRose> intelikey: Not necessarily, if you have the svgalib support compiled in :P
[02:12] <AmyRose> intelikey: But Ubuntu's SDL packages do not have that
[02:13] <AmyRose> so you do need X unless you plan on recompiling SDL
[02:13] <intelikey> right.  so like i said...
[02:13] <AmyRose> intelikey: Sorry; I get overly technical sometimes :P
[02:16] <intelikey> bochs also requires X ....  hmmmm
[02:17] <TeraDyne> grr.. need "libkdcraw 0.1.1" to compile digikam 0.9.2... Anyone know if there's a package in the repos?
[02:17] <TeraDyne> If there is, I can't find it...
[02:17] <AmyRose> intelikey: Bochs is also painfully slow
[02:18] <intelikey> TeraDyne /msg ubotu find libkdcraw
[02:18] <TeraDyne> [19:18]  <ubotu> Package/file libkdcraw does not exist in feisty
[02:19] <TeraDyne> I guess that's a no. Time to get to work, then.
[02:19] <Sanne> TeraDyne: I can only find it for Gutsy (at packages.ubuntu.com)
[02:19] <TeraDyne> think I'd break anything if I installed it on my fiesty machine?
[02:20] <MarcC> if anything it wouldn't work because of lib versions
[02:21] <TeraDyne> Well... Worth a shot...
[02:22] <intelikey> heh it's just a package, what can it hurt   :)))
[02:22] <Dragnslcr> Famous last words
[02:22] <TeraDyne> intelikey: that's what I said last time, and I ended up having to do a complete reinstall.
[02:23] <Biteyni> Hello amy?
[02:23] <intelikey> TeraDyne so what did it "hurt"?   hehhe
[02:23] <Sanne> TeraDyne: if it wants to pull dependencies from Gutsy, I wouldn't install it.
[02:23] <Biteyni> AmyRose both options don't load the livecd desktop install thingy
[02:24] <intelikey> ah come on upgrade to the pre-alpha-planned release
[02:24] <TeraDyne> intelikey: No. Not when I have 3D accel working for once.
[02:24] <intelikey> Biteyni trubble with the installer ?
[02:24] <Biteyni> yes
[02:25] <intelikey> TeraDyne yeah i was 'josh'n'
[02:25] <intelikey> Biteyni old or new hardware ?
[02:25] <Biteyni> i tried first the option that: http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/ told me
[02:25] <Biteyni> about 3-4 year old hardware
[02:25] <TeraDyne> II think I'll try to compile the lib from source...
[02:26] <TeraDyne> Maybe checkinstall will work with it.
[02:26] <Biteyni> im trying to keep current windows partition
[02:27] <Biteyni> and that link told me to do the start ubunutu in graphics mode option but loads to the black screen
[02:27] <Biteyni> it loads linux kernel and then takes me to a black screen and thats it..
[02:27] <Biteyni> nothing else loads
[02:27] <intelikey> Biteyni you should probably first boot windows and do a full scandisk and defrag   then you should be able to resize the partition
[02:27] <intelikey> Biteyni oh wait.
[02:28] <Biteyni> the desktop where install doesnt load..
[02:28] <intelikey> Biteyni you are not getting to the installer....   i see
[02:28] <Biteyni> yeah thats the prob
[02:29] <intelikey> more than one vidio card ?
[02:29] <Biteyni> all i get is options of Start or install ubuntu and Start Ubuntu in safe graphics mode
[02:29] <Biteyni> no just one card
[02:29] <Biteyni> this one has an intel graphics card
[02:29] <intelikey> you tried safe graphics mode   same thing ?
[02:29] <Biteyni> yup
[02:29] <TeraDyne> IT COMPILED! I have a package for it, too.
[02:29] <Sanne> TeraDyne: congrats!
[02:30] <Biteyni> i first tried safe graphics mode then i tried regular mode and same thing
[02:30] <Biteyni> at one point i did get something about graphics
[02:30] <Biteyni> but i dunno what to do.
[02:31] <intelikey> Biteyni you can probably install from the alternet install cd.    it's got a text mode installer.      you might try configuring the x server on the live cd to make sure you can get it working
[02:31] <TeraDyne> Now I need the new version of libkexiv2... Time to compile again.
[02:32] <Biteyni> yeah thats the error i got
[02:32] <Biteyni> something about x server
[02:32] <Biteyni> im new to all of this so i dunnow what the x server is
[02:32] <Biteyni> where is x server on load?
[02:32] <intelikey> Biteyni yeah the x server "xorg" is the "window system" of the linux world.
[02:32] <TeraDyne> Anyone know if it might be a wise idea to remove the libkexiv2 packages before I compile and run checkinstall for the new version?
[02:33] <intelikey> Biteyni how much ram is in that box ?
[02:33] <Biteyni> i know but i didn't get options for that i got something about press f4 for vga and f6 for more options
[02:33] <Biteyni> on that box is 256
[02:33] <Biteyni> rest of computers are fine and running ubuntu
[02:34] <intelikey> Biteyni no there wont be "options" you'll have to enter a console and issue the command     sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:34] <intelikey> !gui
[02:34] <ubotu> The graphical user interface (GUI) in Ubuntu is composed of many elements, including the !X server, a window manager, and a desktop environment such as !GNOME or !KDE (which themselves use the !GTK and !Qt toolkits respectively)
[02:34] <Biteyni> but it doesnt have termanal
[02:34] <Biteyni> i only get to the selction of what to do first
[02:35] <Biteyni> that screen when you first boot from cd
[02:35] <Biteyni> and you chose what option to do
[02:35] <Biteyni> and thats it
[02:35] <Biteyni> i dont ever get to that desktop or the install link or anything
[02:35] <intelikey> yes it does.      after it boots up  and the screen goes blank.   hit [alt] +[ctrl] +[f2] 
[02:35] <cs5> anyone know why dapper and feisty are the only two downloads on the first ubuntu downloads page, what about edgy?
[02:36] <Biteyni> alright ill try that
[02:36] <Biteyni> brb
[02:36] <intelikey> Biteyni i can't promice that you'll see it but there is a console there
[02:36] <Biteyni> and when i configure the xserver what is it that i have to configure?
[02:36] <Biteyni> or i'll know when i see it?
[02:37] <intelikey> if you can access a console,  issue   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg     and answer the questions it asks
[02:37] <Biteyni> k
[02:37] <Biteyni> brb
[02:37] <drowningAndGrade> is byteyni installing a new graphics card?
[02:38] <Biteyni> no trying to install ubuntu
[02:38] <intelikey> drowningAndGrade no a new linux
[02:38] <Biteyni> brb then
[02:38] <Sanne> cs5: I guess because feisty is current, and dapper is LTS.
[02:38] <intelikey> drowningAndGrade its the ole liveCD boots to a blank screen    issue.
[02:39] <drowningAndGrade> i know i have no idea when that heppened to me when i tried to install one base
[02:39] <sergiusz_> hi
[02:39] <TeraDyne> You know, I now have more respect for the packagers than ever before. This is torture, trying to find the needed dependencies.
[02:40] <drowningAndGrade> i feel that when you use adept, tha packages get installed well
[02:40] <sergiusz_> just installed kubuntu - anyone knows how to make the use of "flag" keys?
[02:40] <intelikey> TeraDyne that's why so many distros "base on..."  rather than actually building a distro
[02:41] <TeraDyne> drowningAndGrade: I'm trying to compile a newer version of digiKam, and the dependencies are only in gutsy. I'm using Fiesty.
[02:41] <intelikey> sergiusz_ khotkeys
[02:41] <TeraDyne> intelikey: I can see why...
[02:42] <sergiusz_> thx
[02:42] <intelikey> it's also one reason i still like the idea of static/stand-alone apps
[02:42] <TeraDyne> intelikey: Like the ones they use for Klik?
[02:43] <intelikey> i'm not familear with klik
[02:43] <sergiusz_> thx & cu
[02:43] <drowningAndGrade> if you rob people your breaking the bible
[02:43] <TeraDyne> intelikey: http://klik.atekon.de/
[02:44] <TeraDyne> drowningAndGrade: What?
[02:45] <drowningAndGrade> im sorry nothng, i got paranoid of master evil;
[02:45] <Dragnslcr> !info khotkeys
[02:45] <ubotu> Package khotkeys does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:45] <TeraDyne> XD
[02:45] <TeraDyne> !info khotkeys edgy
[02:45] <ubotu> Package khotkeys does not exist in edgy
[02:45] <TeraDyne> O_O;
[02:46] <intelikey> !find khotkeys
[02:46] <ubotu> File khotkeys found in kde4base, kde4base-data, kdebase-bin, kdebase-dbg, python-poker2d
[02:46] <drowningAndGrade> is there a file that governs the keyboard input in the konsole?
[02:46] <drowningAndGrade> is there just one?
[02:46] <Dragnslcr> Hm, interesting
[02:47] <Dragnslcr> I wonder if khotkeys is any better than keytouch
[02:47] <intelikey> drowningAndGrade you might be able to adjust konsole input within konsole's menu  not sure.
[02:47] <draik> Does Photoshop CS2 work on Wine?
[02:47] <intelikey> Dragnslcr you have kde installed ?
[02:48] <drowningAndGrade> have you tried krita draik?
[02:48] <BluesKaj> what about Gimp ?
[02:48] <BluesKaj> !gimp
[02:48] <ubotu> gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[02:48] <drowningAndGrade> the gimp is pretty too
[02:48] <TeraDyne> draik: I've heard of the older ones working, but nothing on CS2. Idn't there a list of what works and doesn't work in wine?
[02:48] <intelikey> !ps2
[02:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ps2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:49] <draik> !wine
[02:49] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:49] <draik> I ask because there is an icon for Tux Photoshop CS
[02:49] <Bazi> I've run CS2 in wine
[02:50] <drowningAndGrade> how do i find my portable hard drive enclosure?
[02:50] <Dragnslcr> intelikey- 3.5.7, yeah
[02:51] <drowningAndGrade> i want to put some3d levels on the internet before i apply anywhere and i cant find my usb portable hard drive any where in kubuntu
[02:51] <intelikey> Dragnslcr and konsole command  khotkeys   does what there ?
[02:52] <Dragnslcr> intelikey- I dunno, haven't tried it. I've been using keytouch, and it works well enough for me
[02:52] <mneptok> draik: do you need CMYK and separations?
[02:52] <drowningAndGrade> doesnt krita do cmyk?
[02:52] <Dragnslcr> Was just wondering aloud if khotkeys was any different/better
[02:53] <draik> Bazi: How? I usually get a crash
[02:53] <draik> If it even loads at all
[02:53] <draik> mneptok: I just want something to edit pictures as I did with PS CS2
[02:53] <Sloik> Speaking of Hard Drive enclosures, are there specific kinds I should look for to maximize compatibility with Linux?
[02:53] <mneptok> draik: Krita or GIMP
[02:54] <draik> GIMP and I didn't get along very well
[02:54] <Bazi> draik: It's been awhile since I last did it
[02:54] <Bazi> I ended up just moving to gimp or using my desktop for CS
[02:54] <mneptok> draik: only bxecause you want it to wear a Photoshop costume. women don't like it when you ask them to wear a full-head latex mask of your on the first date. ;)
[02:55] <mneptok> *of your ex
[02:55] <draik> They don't like latex? Well that explains so much... Sorry. If anyone's offended, my apologies.
[02:56] <TeraDyne> XD
[02:56] <drowningAndGrade> whats jlldo mean?
[02:56] <drowningAndGrade> excuse me
[02:56] <mneptok> draik: spend some time with the GIMP and try to approach it with a clear set of expectations.
[02:56] <TeraDyne> Dependencies... getto daze! Now to compile Digikam 0.9.2
[02:56] <phoenixz> I want to umount a directory, but umount says the directory is busy.. lsof | grep dirname shows me nothing though.. How can I see who / what is keeping that dir busy?
[02:58] <draik> Bazi: Where do I find CS2 with WINE?
[02:58] <mneptok> phoenixz: lsof +D /path/to/mount
[02:58] <drowningAndGrade> phoenix,can you do it with the jobs command?
[02:58] <phoenixz> mneptok, thanks!
[02:58] <Bazi> draik: What do you mean?
[02:58] <osiris76> irc://irc.abjects.net/045
[02:59] <draik> Bazi: When you used WINE, how did you access CS2?
[02:59] <drowningAndGrade> i cant find my usb portable hard drive anywhere
[02:59] <Sloik> drowningAndGrade: What is the HD formatted in?
[02:59] <drowningAndGrade> its a windows format
[02:59] <drowningAndGrade> the ntfs i think
[02:59] <drowningAndGrade> if thats it
[03:00] <Sloik> drowningAndGrade: OK, if it's in NTFS you may have to get an NTFS configuration tool. Try searching Adept. K Menu> Add/Remove Software.
[03:00] <sinequanon777> Hello Everybody!!!!!
[03:00] <Bazi> I forget how exactly I had it set up
[03:00] <drowningAndGrade> whats that tool called?
[03:00] <K-Ryan> !ntfs
[03:00] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:00] <Sloik> I've got one and it was just called "NTFS Configuration Tool".
[03:00] <K-Ryan> ntfs-3g or fuse
[03:00] <drowningAndGrade> thank you
[03:00] <Sloik> ntfs-3g was a dependency.
[03:01] <Sloik> Try searching Adept for NTFS and see what you find.
[03:01] <Lido> I upgraded to Feisty and now my USB mouse is all wonky.  I lose mouse control when A) I come out of suspend and B) I disconnect my USB hard drive (sometimes)
[03:01] <Lido> unplugging the mouse and plugging it back in fixes it.
[03:01] <Lido> until the next time
[03:02] <Sloik> Does anybody know a good Video Editor for Linux?
[03:02] <Sloik> I use Adobe Premiere now.
[03:03] <Lido> help, please?
[03:03] <Bazi> Sloik: http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php
[03:03] <klobster> what is the hotkey combonation to pull up the current process list?
[03:03] <Sloik> Bazi: Thanks.
[03:03] <Bazi> no prob
[03:04] <Sloik> klobster: Ctrl+Esc.
[03:04] <klobster> ty
[03:04] <Sloik> Any time.
[03:04] <intelikey> what do you do to remove the listing for a package that isn't installed ?
[03:04] <klobster> I kept doing the windows equivalent, Ctrl+Shift+Esc
[03:04] <Sloik> Yeah.
[03:05] <intelikey> example: dpkg -l | cut -d' ' -f-3 | grep -v ii
[03:05] <intelikey> ?
[03:05] <zipper> Anyone knows when a new version of KDE is comming in the repositories?
[03:06] <Dragnslcr> 3.5.7 is available
[03:06] <Dragnslcr> Dunno if there'll be a 3.5.8 or if they'll just wait until 4.0
[03:06] <zipper> thought 4.0 was out, but hadn't got into the rep..
[03:06] <Dragnslcr> No, 4.0 is still in alpha
[03:06] <zipper> ah
[03:06] <Lido> Did something change with udev in feisty?
[03:06] <zipper> so i dont suppose there is a release date yet?
[03:07] <Dragnslcr> I think they're aiming for October for a release
[03:07] <zipper> k
[03:07] <Sloik> How come I can't get 3D acceleration with the ati display driver that came pre-installed? Apparently my video card is too old for fglrx...
[03:07] <Dragnslcr> I don't think that would be soon enough for Ubuntu 7.10 though
[03:07] <TeraDyne> What repo is KDE 3.5.7 in?
[03:07] <Dragnslcr> TeraDyne- special one that they set up
[03:07] <intelikey> Lido something changed with the kernel, they started using 'scsi emulation'
[03:07] <klobster> kde 4.3.5.7 is stable or beta?
[03:07] <zipper> Sloik, i think there is a special driver for legacy cards
[03:08] <Dragnslcr> TeraDyne- http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php
[03:08] <Lido> hmm...  That might explain the problems I'm seeing.. maybe.
[03:08] <TeraDyne> Dragnslcr: Riddell said no Gutsy KDE4 due to it not being out in time, and no Gutsy+1 because it's a Long-Term Support release.
[03:08] <intelikey> Lido or more specificly with the initramfs.img   older kernels could be set up that way too
[03:08] <TeraDyne> Dragnslcr: Thanks,
[03:08] <Dragnslcr> klobster- you mean 3.5.7?
[03:08] <klobster> oops 4:3.5.7
[03:08] <Lido> Is the scsi emulation for IDE or USB drives?
[03:08] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, 3.5.7 is an official release
[03:08] <klobster> ty
[03:08] <intelikey> Lido ide   usb was already using it
[03:09] <zipper> Sloik, i think its called fglrx-legacy, you have to download it and in stall it. Just like the normal driver i believe.
[03:09] <Dragnslcr> TeraDyne- that'd kinda suck if it isn't in 8.06, even if it isn't the default
[03:09] <Sloik> zipper: Cool, thanks, I'll look for it.
[03:09] <zipper> np
[03:09] <zipper> install*
[03:09] <TeraDyne> Dragnslcr: Something tells me it'll be in a special repo soon after it's released
[03:10] <Lido> intelikey  what's initramfs.img?  Is that what's used to come out of suspend?
[03:10] <Dragnslcr> TeraDyne- yeah, I would think so. If they did it for 3.5.7, they can obviously do it for 4.0
[03:11] <intelikey> Lido  less /boot/grub/menu.lst       hit /     and type init
[03:11] <intelikey> Lido or read all about it on the web.    or   man mkinitramfs
[03:11] <Hirvinen> TeraDyne: Riddell said that there wouldn't be KDE 4 even in Gutsy+1?
[03:12] <TeraDyne> Hirvinen: Not by default. It's in his talk at aKademy.
[03:12] <intelikey> Hirvinen sounds right
[03:12] <Dragnslcr> I can understand the default being 3.5.x, but I would imagine they'd at least have 4.0 in the main repository
[03:13] <intelikey> why in main ?
[03:13] <TeraDyne> http://akademy.kde.org/conference/programme.php < You can download the talks there. It's towards the bottom. Just use the "video icon" button.
[03:13] <Lido> intelikey All I have in my grub menu is initrd.
[03:13] <intelikey> should be in universe until it's stable   no?
[03:13] <Dragnslcr> Just so it's easier to install, instead of users needing to add a repository
[03:13] <Hirvinen> Yup, would be pretty weird not providing it. Even not having it as the default sounds weird, assuming 4.0 is released this year.
[03:13] <intelikey> Lido it's an initramfs image reguardless the name
[03:14] <Dragnslcr> Er, sorry. Didn't mean the 'main' repository. Meant the standard repositories
[03:14] <TeraDyne> Hirvinen: It makes more sense than you think. Gutsy+1 is a Long Term Support release. They'll want something more stable for it.
[03:14] <Dragnslcr> As opposed to 3.5.7, which is in a repository that you have to add manually
[03:14] <intelikey> Dragnslcr ah yes.
[03:15] <Biteyni> inteli couldn't setup the xserver but i did write down the errors
[03:15] <intelikey> Biteyni ok
[03:15] <Biteyni> first was Buffer I/O error on device sr0
[03:15] <Biteyni> then was SQUASHFS error
[03:16] <intelikey> ok that's scsi error not vidio
[03:16] <Biovore> disk failure..
[03:16] <intelikey> that's filesystem  on the live CD
[03:16] <Biteyni> and unable to read sb_bread
[03:16] <intelikey> so you burned a frisby/coster
[03:16] <Biovore> another scsi thing..
[03:16] <Hirvinen> TeraDyne: Well, yes. But also one would think that 3 years after it's release, they'd rather be supporting KDE 4 than 3.
[03:16] <Biovore> sounds like a dead disk.. burn slower..
[03:16] <Biteyni> i burned on hp cd's
[03:17] <Biteyni> i burned on 16x on an hp cd
[03:17] <Biovore> and check md5 sum after
[03:17] <Biteyni> so i'll burn at 8x and ill first check the md5 sun
[03:17] <Biteyni> but when i insert the cd it loads the free software thingy on windows
[03:17] <intelikey> Biovore should always burn installagion disks as slow as fiesablely possably and then run the disk test on the cd itsel
[03:17] <intelikey> f
[03:17] <Biteyni> so doesn't that mean its ok?
[03:18] <intelikey> Biteyni no that doesn't mean it's ok.  that means one file is ok
[03:18] <intelikey> Biteyni SQUASHFS error <<<< means the disk is faulty
[03:19] <Biovore> if the diskcheck (md5sum of the disk) match whats on ubuntu's site.. then its burnt good..
[03:19] <Biovore> else its bad..
[03:19] <Biovore> since you probably didn't select the verify option.. you can't tell if it was good or not..
[03:19] <draik> Where do I put icon images?
[03:20] <intelikey> where ever you want them ?
[03:20] <hero> anywhere you want.
[03:20] <Biovore> ~/.icons ussualy
[03:20] <hero> or /usr/share/icons
[03:20] <Biovore> ^ or there
[03:20] <hero> :D
[03:20] <intelikey>  /usr/share/something/something/
[03:21] <Biteyni> for nero i did verify data on cd
[03:21] <intelikey> but i would caution that any file not in your home dir should only be writable by root or special groups in some cases,       exception being /tmp
[03:22] <hero> what intelikey said
[03:22] <Biovore> hmm /tmp is my favorite dumping ground.. :-P
[03:22] <facugaich> How can I configure Kopete to automatically log-in?
[03:22] <Linracoon> any kubuntu kdebase developer around?
[03:23] <intelikey> Linracoon more likely to find them in #ubuntu+1  or #kde
[03:24] <drowningAndGrade> what is the utility that mounts usb portable ntfs hard drives
[03:24] <intelikey> if you don't want it or don't know what it is just put it in /dev/null for safe keeping...
[03:25] <intelikey> !ntfs
[03:25] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:25] <singinmatt13> I'm using a BCM4318 that's completely set up and working, but it recently has had trouble connecting to my WPA protected network.
[03:26] <singinmatt13> oops, i'm still here
[03:26] <intelikey> we enjoy updates and news flashes like that singinmatt13
[03:26] <intelikey> :)
[03:26] <singinmatt13> ok...well that was sort of a general prod for help
[03:27] <singinmatt13> typically people say "don't ask to ask"
[03:28] <singinmatt13> that was an accident.  ha. i understand why it looks weird
[03:28] <intelikey> i just found it ammusing.  no offence
[03:28] <hero> singinmatt13: don't worry about it. lots of wifi questions asked here
[03:29] <Sloik> OK, I've installed LAMP, but apache doesn't seem to be using PHP.
[03:30] <intelikey> !php
[03:30] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[03:30] <intelikey> there was a node on that at one time...   i'll look
[03:31] <Sloik> Thanks
[03:31] <intelikey> Sloik check the "trubble shooting" sections of that page
[03:31] <Biteyni> intelikey so i burn at slowest at possible?
[03:31] <intelikey> Biteyni yes.
[03:32] <ritznix> quicky question for the ultimate newbie how do i mount the dvd to play a movie
[03:32] <intelikey> Biteyni and when you first boot the cd select the test this cd option
[03:32] <Biteyni> alright i will
[03:32] <Sloik> intelikey: OK, thanks.
[03:32] <Biteyni> because on the cd ive been using that wouldn't even load
[03:32] <Biteyni> the test thing didn't load it just went to blank hehehe
[03:33] <intelikey> Biteyni that should be an indicator that something is wrong
[03:33] <Biteyni> well biteyni is slow :P
[03:33] <BluesKaj> ritznix, install libdvdcss2
[03:33] <Biovore> (which is illegal :-P )
[03:33] <BluesKaj> !libdvdss2 | ritznix
[03:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libdvdss2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:33] <intelikey> !dvd > ritznix
[03:34] <BluesKaj> !libdvdcss2 | ritznix
[03:34] <ubotu> ritznix: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[03:34] <MarcC> !dvd | ritznix
[03:34] <intelikey> !dvd > MarcC
[03:34] <MarcC> !dvd | intellikey
[03:34] <ritznix> i installed a totem player
[03:34] <MarcC> !dvd | intelikey
[03:34] <ubotu> intellikey: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[03:34] <ubotu> intelikey: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[03:34] <r00t_> how do i get feisty to read a sansdisk card form a digi cam?
[03:35] <BluesKaj> !codecs | everyone
[03:35] <ubotu> everyone: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:35] <MarcC> lol
[03:35] <ritznix> and i just had to open a location and i was going to like i belive mount the dvd drive ?
[03:35] <r00t_> i only have a few mins before my friend has to leave with her cam and really need the pics,so any advice would be great!
[03:35] <BluesKaj> I couldn't resist a bit of bot abuse this fine evening
[03:36] <Biteyni> intelli the slowest i can burn is at 8x is that good?
[03:36] <r00t_> !grub
[03:36] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:36] <r00t_> !sansdisk
[03:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sansdisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:36] <r00t_> !sd
[03:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:36] <r00t_> sorry i had some bot abuse to do also
[03:36] <intelikey> r00t_ something like    sudo mount /dev/sda /media ;cp /media/* ~/Desktop
[03:37] <Biteyni> burning iso at 8x good?
[03:37] <Biovore> thats what I burn at..
[03:37] <intelikey> Biteyni wouldn't be on this 8x burner   1x would be  :)
[03:38] <facugaich> 8x = 11mb/s
[03:38] <Biteyni> the thing doesnt give option to go lower than 1x
[03:38] <Biteyni> lower than 8x i mean
[03:38] <Biteyni> 8x = 1.2 MB /s
[03:38] <intelikey> yeah but probably goes up to 56x or something
[03:38] <facugaich> Biteyni: CD or DVD?
[03:39] <Biteyni> burning on cd
[03:39] <facugaich> My mistake then
[03:39] <Biteyni> thats what this is no? a cd iso?
[03:39] <Biteyni> ah k
[03:40] <hero> if i want to install a postgres server, which pkg can i install that will trigger the rest of the depends?
[03:40] <hero> there's a bunch!
[03:42] <Biteyni> we cant check the md5 hash of a cd can we?
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> yeah, you can
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> I'm pretty sure.
[03:43] <Biteyni> with?
[03:43] <Hirvinen> Biteyni: I think md5sum /dev/cdrom would do it.
[03:44] <Biteyni> but i mean in windows?
[03:44] <ritznix> mount -t auto /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
[03:45] <hero> heh
[03:45] <ritznix> but would that count as the cd / dvd drive if i have a movie in there and the software to play it
[03:45] <hero> 'mount' would be a good nick
[03:45] <hero> of course, it's owned already
[03:46] <CaBlGuY> !m4a
[03:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:47] <intelikey> ritznix check for /dev/dvd     also -t auto is redundant if you dont specify -t then it's auto...
[03:51] <hero> can you get ubotu to msg someone with a factoid?
[03:51] <hero> ubotu, tell hero about nvidia
[03:52] <Biteyni> hero, tell biteyni about hero
[03:52] <ardchoille> hero: yes
[03:52] <_Iamda> when I'm on an IRC channel every few minutes while looking at the screen, there's an micro flash that's undetinguishable on right hand quadrant of screen.
[03:53] <_Iamda> Has anyone else had this same thing?
[03:53] <ardchoille> _Iamda: Might be your irc client. Which one?
[03:54] <ritznix> i have the file
[03:54] <_Iamda> lonversation
[03:54] <intelikey> Biteyni if the cd test is successful and you still have problems   come back and we'll see what we can do.
[03:54] <_Iamda> konversation
[03:55] <_Iamda> ok,ty
[03:55] <ritznix> ohy ohy
[03:55] <Biteyni> alright thnks
[03:55] <Biteyni> brb
[03:55] <kamui_> is there something Im missing to playing MIDI's in kde?  I tried kmid, but Im getting no sound output
[03:55] <ritznix> jjust somethin simple haha do i have to actually mount the dvd itself
[03:55] <kamui_> my sound definately works cause I canplay mp3s
[03:55] <kamui_> all my mixer settings are maxed out too
[03:55] <ritznix> i do have a /dev/dvd
[03:56] <intelikey> !midi > kamui
[03:56] <intelikey> !midi > kamui_
[03:58] <yan> j
[03:58] <intelikey> ritznix did you install the needed "NON_FREE" software?     you can't decode dvd without it
[03:58] <intelikey> /j #blah
[04:00] <pollofank> hi there
[04:01] <juhorner25> Does anybody know where I can find the Linux client for Q3 so I can install it from my PC disk?
[04:02] <Ze_M> where can i get latest gutsy cd?
[04:02] <nineoneone> Ze_M gutsy is not released
[04:03] <Lido> I figured some stuff out about the problem I've been having with my USB mouse not working after resuming from suspend to RAM.
[04:03] <Ze_M> there are gutsy snapshots
[04:03] <Ze_M> nineoneone:  take a good look http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/gutsy/tribe-1/
[04:03] <Lido> happens only when the mouse is plugged into a USB hub.
[04:03] <nineoneone> Ze_M at what.  the release date is 7 10
[04:04] <Lido> any hunches on why that might be?
[04:04] <BluesKaj> the latest http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/gutsy/tribe-2/
[04:04] <Ze_M> BluesKaj: thanks
[04:04] <ritznix> umm umm non free software .. is there like a apt -get i need to get will all the approtiate plugins and such to be able to play dvds.
[04:04] <ritznix> thanks
[04:05] <Ze_M> BluesKaj: whats this? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/current/
[04:05] <ardchoille> !seveas
[04:05] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:05] <ardchoille> ritznix: ^^
[04:05] <CaBlGuY> ritznix:  look at this..
[04:05] <Lido> from the bug reports, sounds like quite a few people have similar problems, but no reports about whether people are using USB hubs or not.
[04:05] <CaBlGuY> !mediabuntu
[04:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mediabuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <CaBlGuY> err  hang on..
[04:05] <ardchoille> !medibuntu
[04:05] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[04:05] <ritznix> haha thankkkks ;)
[04:05] <ardchoille> :)
[04:05] <CaBlGuY> ritznix:    here..  read this..
[04:05] <CaBlGuY> http://www.medibuntu.org/index.php
[04:06] <ritznix> thannks
[04:06] <CaBlGuY> Np   ;)
[04:06] <ritznix>  this compiz is soooo coool
[04:06] <Lido> strangely my wacom tablet works fine after a suspend through the hub everytime.
[04:08] <nosrednaekim> ritznix: lol... it is isn't it?
[04:08] <drowningAndGrade> can i run an application that i compiled in windows that uses windows directx dlls on kubuntu at all?
[04:08] <Lido> am I in the wrong place with these kinds of questions?
[04:08] <nosrednaekim> ritznix: you doing compiz fusion or just plain compiz?
[04:08] <Ze_M> BluesKaj: whats the difference from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/gutsy/tribe-2/   to  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/
[04:08] <nosrednaekim> drowningAndGrade: wine?
[04:08] <drowningAndGrade> do i h ave to buy winbe?
[04:08] <drowningAndGrade> wine
[04:08] <ardchoille> Lido: If it's support for kubuntu, you're in the right place.
[04:09] <nosrednaekim> drowningAndGrade: no
[04:09] <nosrednaekim> !wine| drowningAndGrade
[04:09] <ubotu> drowningAndGrade: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:10] <BluesKaj> Ze_M,the live current is a daily build which constantly updates your version with upgrades as they re released...mainly for testing
[04:10] <juhorner25> Does anybody know where I can find the Linux client for Q3 so I can install it from my PC disk?
[04:10] <nineoneone> BluesKaj released ?   you mean introduced ?
[04:10] <ritznix> the compiz fusion
[04:11] <ritznix> have a few little issues but eh get to it later at least its much better then beryl
[04:11] <BluesKaj> yeah ok introduced for teating ...if you wish
[04:11] <ardchoille> juhorner25: Any of these help? http://www.google.com/linux?hl=en&q=Q3&btnG=Search
[04:11] <BluesKaj> testing
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> ritznix: I found it slower, but nicer
[04:12] <evilmm> is there a reaosn why my system idle at able 75% mem usg?
[04:12] <ritznix> hmmmm the beryl was slower for me it must be like the config or video cards
[04:12] <evilmm> at*
[04:12] <evilmm> no beryl
[04:13] <nineoneone> evilmm yeah you aren't reading the actual memory usage just the allocated
[04:13] <BluesKaj> the cache evilmm
[04:13] <evilmm> no, the physical
[04:14] <nineoneone> evilmm  i.e. in konsole type  free -m         and read the   -/+ buffers/cache:   line
[04:14] <juhorner25> Standalone Q3 will only let me play mod servers though, right?
[04:14] <BluesKaj> :)
[04:14] <evilmm>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[04:14] <evilmm> Mem:       1033940     778312     255628          0      67604     475492
[04:15] <nosrednaekim> evilmm: do "free -m"
[04:15] <nosrednaekim> to show it in MB
[04:15] <nosrednaekim> easier to read
[04:15] <evilmm> lol i did free m
[04:16] <nineoneone> any you didn't show the    -/+ buffers/cache:
[04:16] <evilmm> so +/-  is what i care bout?
[04:16] <nineoneone> which is the actual memory usage
[04:16] <ritznix> the weird thing is that when i activate the compiz there are like 16 desktops and my desktop 1 wallpaper is on all 16 and i only had 4 to begin
[04:16] <evilmm> lol
[04:16] <nineoneone> feel better ?
[04:16] <evilmm> ok thanks for solving that
[04:17] <evilmm> i was about to be like wtf
[04:17] <Dragnslcr> ritznix- that's because Compiz turns each desktop into a cube
[04:17] <ritznix> oh geesh wtf do i just have 1 cube then
[04:17] <ritznix> haah
[04:18] <mneptok> Bianchi: please don't use public /away messages on Ubuntu channels
[04:18] <Dragnslcr> You probably want to set your number of desktops in KDE to 1
[04:18] <nosrednaekim> ritznix: probably change your kde setting to have 1 desktop
[04:18] <ritznix> ahh
[04:18] <raylu> does compiz give you the top and bottom faces?
[04:18] <Biovore> raylu: beryl you mean?
[04:18] <nosrednaekim> yeah. i've always wanted to use them for something
[04:19] <raylu> compiz; i have beryl
[04:19] <Dragnslcr> The term "cube" is kinda misleading
[04:19] <raylu> or were you referring to beryl when you said compiz
[04:19] <Dragnslcr> You can have as many faces as you want
[04:19] <raylu> but only cubes have quadrilateral faces
[04:19] <Dragnslcr> raylu- Beryl is being retired and merged back into Compiz
[04:19] <ritznix> snazzy my compiz is much faster
[04:19] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: how do you add them?
[04:19] <raylu> o.0? when?
[04:19] <ritznix> i have the compiz fusion
[04:19] <ritznix> removed beryl
[04:19] <raylu> o.0? fusion?
[04:19] <ritznix> nice features
[04:19] <raylu> what is all this stuff
[04:19] <Dragnslcr> The new official name is Compiz Fusion
[04:20] <raylu> is it worth switching now?
[04:20] <ritznix> am i able to have both installed at the same time
[04:20] <nosrednaekim> raylu: not yet
[04:20] <raylu> yes, but not both running
[04:20] <Dragnslcr> nosrednaekim- the number of horizontal and vertical faces is in the settings
[04:20] <raylu> nosrednaekim, is cf unstable?
[04:20] <Dragnslcr> I'm running Fusion now, and it works fine
[04:20] <nosrednaekim> raylu: very
[04:20] <raylu> lol...
[04:21] <Dragnslcr> It's no more unstable than Beryl
[04:21] <CaBlGuY> anyone know what I can use to burn m4a files??  Lossless audio..
[04:21] <nineoneone> !beryl
[04:21] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:21] <raylu> anyone else's opinion?
[04:21] <NickPresta> CaBlGuY, I would assume K3B can handle all your burning needs
[04:21] <crimsun> CaBlGuY: ALAC?
[04:22] <nineoneone> !mp3 | CaBlGuY or is it !codecs
[04:22] <ubotu> CaBlGuY or is it !codecs: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:23] <BluesKaj> CaBlGuY, SoundKonvertor will convert m4a files
[04:23] <hero> which MTA is basically secure out of the box? postfix?
[04:23] <trakinas> !grub
[04:23] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:23] <CaBlGuY> yea, done already got all the codecs installed..  but k3b can't "handle" the lossless files..
[04:23] <BluesKaj> CaBlGuY, SoundKonvertor !
[04:23] <nineoneone> CaBlGuY ^ ><BluesKaj> CaBlGuY, SoundKonvertor will convert m4a files
[04:24] <CaBlGuY> k..
[04:24] <crimsun> if it's m4a lossless, then you can't use faad-based ones.  You need to recompile ffmpeg with ALAC support.
[04:24] <BluesKaj> too many cooks here again
[04:25] <raffytaffy> could someone please recomend a sound card that works with 7.1 in feisty?
[04:25] <raffytaffy> :(
[04:25] <nineoneone> BluesKaj ok. i'll hush.  cause i know crimsun's da sound guy...
[04:25] <BluesKaj> getting late anyway ...nite all, take care
[04:25] <Biovore> creative audigy2 value SB0400
[04:25] <Biovore> works out of the box
[04:25] <Dragnslcr> hero- I like Postfix, mainly because it isn't the complete pain to configure that sendmail can be
[04:26] <trakinas> I have some doubts with grub config... for example: if my gentoo kernel is on device sda4, for example, the root paramter would be "root (0,4)"?
[04:26] <Biovore> sendmail is confusing to setup.. but man.. it can do anything..
[04:26] <Biovore> email by donky.. (send mail can do it)
[04:26] <nineoneone> sendmail + fetchmail  full server.
[04:26] <Biovore> yup
[04:27] <raffytaffy> will it work with 7.,1 speakers Biovore?
[04:27] <trakinas> raffytaffy: my onboard works great. usually, soundboards does not gives too much troubles
[04:27] <Biovore> not sure.. It should.. but I can't say for sure..
[04:27] <nineoneone> trakinas "root (hd0,3)"    would be more like it
[04:27] <trakinas> nineoneone: hmmm. thanks!
[04:28] <Biovore> it has PCM side, LFE, Front, Surround mixer lines..  I don't have 7.1 speakers.. just Headphones..
[04:28] <hero> Dragnslcr: thanks
[04:28] <Dragnslcr> The onboard sound I have does 5.1 quite well
[04:28] <Dragnslcr> Which was nice, not having to buy another $150 sound card
[04:28] <Biovore> the advantage to the creative cards that work in alsa is they have hardware mixing..
[04:29] <Biovore> A must for legicy OSS apps..
[04:30] <raffytaffy> my current card Creative sound blaster audigy se 7.1 doesnt work with feisty
[04:30] <Dragnslcr> I even got the motherboard with optical and coaxial outputs so that it would work with my old Cambridge Soundworks speakers
[04:30] <raffytaffy> i tried all the guides and nothing
[04:31] <trakinas> nineoneone: root=UUID=31ae020d-e9e3-4085-9e6e-05bf04f7d58c --> how do I discover that?
[04:31] <raffytaffy> only 2 speakers work
[04:31] <BigMac> Hey, is there a way to get rid of those black things ( http://img.waffleimages.com/d79c571a9c3b99e488681a5de2cbd47a69247dfb/Screenshot%20(copy).png ) in KATE ?
[04:32] <Biovore> BigMac: thats line wrap
[04:32] <Biovore> turn of line wrap..
[04:33] <BigMac> ...?
[04:34] <ses59_> could some one please send me the link for the channels that are available for freenode
[04:34] <BigMac> Isn't line wrap "when you reach th end of the line start back over on the next line, not keep going"
[04:34] <BigMac> I am talking about those black and white checkered things that mark tabs
[04:34] <Dragnslcr> ses59_- checked http://www.freenode.net?
[04:35] <Dragnslcr> ses59_- or using the channel listing ability of your IRC client?
[04:35] <ses59_> that is the thing that i do not know is how to make the irc client list channesl
[04:35] <ses59_> channels
[04:36] <hitmanWilly> ses59_: /list should do it IIRC
[04:36] <trakinas> should do on almost every client
[04:36] <Dragnslcr> ses59_- depends on your client
[04:36] <facugaich> How can I set Kopete to login automatically?
[04:37] <ses59_> konversation
[04:37] <Dragnslcr> Settings -> Configure -> Behavior
[04:37] <ses59_> is my client
[04:37] <kamui_> I need some more midi advice, I want to convert a ton of midis' to mp3's is there any software that would make that easier to do in say a batch operation?  if not, is there any recommended software that I can use to directly record wave output from my mixer to mp3 format?
[04:37] <hitmanWilly> ses59_: should work then
[04:38] <DaSkreech> Midi -> Mp3?
[04:38] <kamui_> yes
[04:38] <DaSkreech> fascinating :)
[04:38] <kamui_> quite
[04:38] <kamui_> :)
[04:38] <hitmanWilly> kamui_: ffmpeg should handle that, i would think
[04:38] <nineoneone> midi != mp3
[04:38] <MasterEvilAce> yeah.
[04:38] <MasterEvilAce> That's... not worth doing
[04:38] <kamui_> it actually is quite worth doing
[04:38] <MasterEvilAce> Midis are TINY.. and sounds are generated by the soundcard or w/e
[04:39] <MasterEvilAce> converting to an mp3.. file size becomes a lot larger.. you're not hearing any better quality, etc.
[04:39] <kamui_> there are a few great songs I have composed in midi format that the timidity and drumsets in linux sound amazing
[04:39] <nineoneone> and most sound cards don't support midi  so you have to have a ton of software to play them
[04:39] <kamui_> I want to capture the audio to mp3 because the midis sound aweful in windows with its default drumkits
[04:40] <DaSkreech> I have a solution to that ! :)
[04:40] <kamui_> additionally my car stereo does not play midi :)
[04:40] <DaSkreech> Don't use Windows
[04:40] <facugaich> Audacity can record wave output
[04:40] <kamui_> thats a good idea, I can always convert the wavs to mp3s
[04:40] <facugaich> but getting it to work with ALSA is tricky
[04:41] <Biovore> audio recording
[04:41] <nineoneone> lets see take a 5k midi and record the output as wave=90+M   hmmm that should work....
[04:41] <hitmanWilly> kamui_: solution: plug a patch cable into your speaker out jack and your mike in jack, presto!
[04:42] <hitmanWilly> :)
[04:42] <kamui_> thought of that too, that was my fall back
[04:42] <evilmm> anyone know a good prog for joining video files together?
[04:42] <trakinas> anyone able to help me with grub?
[04:42] <kamui_> didn't want to detangle about 10,000 wires to free a patch cable from my boxOcables in the closet
[04:42] <nineoneone> hitmanWilly heh why not just slect the psm as the recording input
[04:42] <hitmanWilly> that works too
[04:43] <nineoneone> trakinas what's the issue ?
[04:44] <trakinas> nineoneone: how do I conigure the hex id? (i.e: UUID=31ae020d-e9e3-4085-9e6e-05bf04f7d58c)
[04:45] <nineoneone> eeeek.  i haven't actually used block id's in grub.  better ask someone that has
[04:46] <hitmanWilly> trakinas: why do you want to do that, anyway
[04:47] <nineoneone> removable media i would assume
[04:47] <hitmanWilly> ahhh, ok
[04:47] <hitmanWilly> fdisk -l should give you the UUID of any plugged devices IIRC
[04:47] <trakinas> I just want to include gentoo and be able to boot it
[04:47] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> grr... I got Digikam compiled, but now it's SIGABRTing on me...
[04:47] <nineoneone> blkid
[04:48] <evilmm> anyone know a good prog for joining video files together?
[04:49] <Biovore> evilmm: ogm mkv and avi's can be done using some different command line tools.. but they must the exact same format to cat videos together..
[04:50] <hitmanWilly> trakinas: is it a internal drive you want to boot?
[04:50] <evilmm> anything for wmv?
[04:50] <Biovore> nope.. propriatary.. have to use windows..
[04:50] <yurimxpxman> is there any particular mail server any of you would recommend?
[04:50] <Biovore> ^ smtp or receiving mail (pop/ imap?)
[04:50] <evilmm> arent the codecs propietart to begin with? lol
[04:51] <hitmanWilly> evilmm: absolutely
[04:51] <Biovore> xvid,mpeg4,x264 arn't
[04:51] <hitmanWilly> evilmm: at least wmv is :(
[04:52] <Biovore> just transcode all you video to xvid or x264 and then paste them together..
[04:52] <Biovore> kino is a video editing program.. but it won't do wmv
[04:52] <Biovore> there is stuff that can play it back
[04:52] <Biovore> (wmv)
[04:53] <hitmanWilly> for split videos, i usually just save an m3u playlist and activate that
[04:54] <trakinas> hitmanWilly: yes it is
[04:54] <xerxes31415> hello all, could someone PM me, I have some basic questions about ubuntu/kubuntu/linux
[04:54] <trakinas> hitmanWilly: sorry for taking too long,
[04:54] <hitmanWilly> trakinas: just use the device names for the system you are booting then
[04:54] <nineoneone> anyone know how to remove packages in the database marked  rc  or  pc   ???
[04:55] <trakinas> what you mean? sorry...
[04:55] <hitmanWilly> trakinas: once you set the root drive, grub pulls all of its data off of that drive
[04:55] <nineoneone> any someone ?
[04:55] <trakinas> hmmmm... so i only need to put root (hd0,3)?
[04:56] <DaSkreech> xerxes31415: ask them here. It may help others
[04:56] <hitmanWilly> trakinas: and the path to the kernel using that drive as root
[04:56] <xerxes31415> k
[04:56] <hitmanWilly> trakinas: for example:
[04:57] <hitmanWilly> root (hd0,0)
[04:57] <hitmanWilly>  kernel /boot/linux-2.6.22-generic-1 root=/dev/sdb1
[04:57] <hitmanWilly> is how my gentoo grub.conf is set up
[04:57] <nineoneone> or you can copy the kernel to your other /boot and just specify the kernel and the root=/dev/sda4    and it should boot
[04:57] <trakinas> hmmmmmm... intersting. i was really confused about those options.
[04:57] <hitmanWilly> trakinas: substitute in your own options where applicable :)
[04:58] <trakinas> hitmanWilly: of course! ;] 
[04:58] <MarkG> Ellos, Anybody had any luck with the LinuxMCE 1.1 Beta 2 Installation?
[04:58] <nineoneone> did update-grub   not automatically find the other installation
[04:59] <xerxes31415> I'm actually running ubuntu with konversation installed, and I was wondering what exactly is KDE and gnome, and how am I able to run a KDE app while not running the general KDE environment?
[04:59] <hitmanWilly> trakinas: yeah, for some reason my system calls hd0,0 sdb1
[04:59] <nineoneone> hitmanWilly cause its in /boot/grub/devices.map
[05:00] <kamui_> damn, audacity was a great idea, but it crashes every minute or so
[05:00] <hitmanWilly> yeah, its cause i swapped around the bios boot order post install
[05:00] <nineoneone> yah
[05:00] <hitmanWilly> and never changed devices.map
[05:02] <nineoneone> i can play musical boot loaders on this box  has three boot loaders working atm.    can't get ide disk primary slave "hdb" to accept a boot loader correctly tho
[05:02] <hitmanWilly> granted, that is a few steps above the typical ubuntu user ;)
[05:02] <nineoneone> :)
[05:03] <nineoneone> if crossing the channel is a few brest strokes  that's a few steps.
[05:03] <hitmanWilly> lol
[05:04] <hitmanWilly> i grew up on slack, so tweaking config files doesn't scare me
[05:04] <nineoneone> anyone know how to remove packages in the database marked  rc  or  pc   ???
[05:05] <hitmanWilly> nineoneone: you could --force it i believe
[05:05] <hitmanWilly>  nineoneone with dpkg
[05:06] <nineoneone> nope
[05:06] <hitmanWilly> hmmm
[05:07] <nineoneone> here's what i'm looking at  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38109
[05:07] <nineoneone> and that's one example of many
[05:08] <nineoneone> i don't think that paste has the force  but i did with   dpkg -P --force-all apmd    same error same end result
[05:09] <nineoneone> all apt will do is    Package apmd is not installed, so not removed
[05:09] <hitmanWilly> nineoneone: ok, try a reinstall via apt, then the -P with dpkg
[05:09] <nineoneone> i have several packages that are not installed but the dpkg database says they are
[05:10] <hitmanWilly> nineoneone: probably all residual config files i would guess
[05:11] <nineoneone> yes    but i just want the data base cleand up.   so searching  dpkg -l  doesn't hit things that arent there
[05:11] <hitmanWilly> nineoneone: hold on, im gonna man dpkg real quick see if anything pops up
[05:12] <nineoneone> hitmanWilly reinstalling apmd then removing same error.   Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:12] <nineoneone>  apmd
[05:13] <hitmanWilly> ugh
[05:13] <nineoneone> i got it.   i'll remove the postrm script and then run the purge
[05:14] <hitmanWilly> nineoneone: yeah, that should work
[05:16] <nineoneone> now to script that on 96 packages
[05:16] <nineoneone> :/
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> nineoneone: fun times....
[05:18] <hitmanWilly> i would think there'd be a way to fix that without having to revert to brute force methods
[05:20] <vbgunz> I cannot access any tty (1 through 6) switching to one, just shows the top 1/3 of the screen in black and the bottom 2/3 of what ever X screen I was currently at. Can anyone help me get my tty access back?
[05:20] <nineoneone> me too but the brute is at work now.
[05:21] <nineoneone> :)
[05:21] <hitmanWilly> lol
[05:21] <hitmanWilly> oh well, its a hack, but it works :)
[05:22] <nineoneone> vbgunz frame buffer
[05:22] <vbgunz> nineoneone: not sure how to fix that, I don't wish to reboot to fix it :(
[05:23] <hitmanWilly> vbgunz: you may just try restarting X
[05:23] <vbgunz> hitmanWilly: I've done that several times. through the loging option and Ctrl+Alt+Backspace :(
[05:24] <hitmanWilly> hmmmm, not really sure on that one then....
[05:24] <vbgunz> it's frustrating, I lost access to those tty and not sure how in the world to get them back :(
[05:25] <nineoneone> vbgunz not likely that you will fix that without rebooting...    "if it is a frame buffer problem"    basicly what has happened is the kernel doesn't remember the exact state of the display to restore it too.
[05:26] <vbgunz> well, I logged into the terminal a while ago. a couple days ago. I remember logging out but if I go to the K menu, and go to switch user, the user I was logged in as, under the terminal I was logged in at (1), is still logged in. How can I kick him? maybe that'll work?
[05:26] <nineoneone> that's one reason i don't like frame buffering for the boot splash     about a third of the time it's a trade off  you get a few seconds of boot splash for loss of access to the console.
[05:27] <vbgunz> nineoneone: my box has been up for 15 days. this problem only started several days ago :/
[05:27] <nineoneone> vbgunz kill
[05:27] <nineoneone> killall
[05:27] <vbgunz> yeah, but how do I kill OR killall a users session on terminal 1?
[05:28] <hitmanWilly> vbgunz: killall -u
[05:29] <vbgunz> yeah, I just man kill and didn't find it, I see --user under killall
[05:29] <NickPresta> I like slay
[05:29] <vbgunz> the thing is, I logged into the terminal under the name I am logged in as now using X :/
[05:29] <raylu> kill is a bit annoying to use
[05:29] <vbgunz> nineoneone: doesn't that kill everything you can kill?
[05:29] <nineoneone> yep
[05:30] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> YES! DigiKam 0.9.2 is finally working. I had to recompile all of the Kipi dependancies as well as Kipi-Plugins itself, but it's working.
[05:30] <nineoneone> err actually kills everything that root can kill
[05:30] <NickPresta> heh
[05:30] <nineoneone> trust me the user is not there after you run that
[05:31] <nineoneone> :)
[05:31] <hitmanWilly> what i like to call a system kamikaze :)
[05:31] <nineoneone> kill init ?
[05:31] <nineoneone> if i type exit it kill init...
[05:31] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> I have a whole lot of respect for the packaging team. Just tryign to get the new digiKam was heck...
[05:32] <drowningAndGrade> whats kamikaze? is that terrifying sounding company in need of helpful developers?
[05:32] <drowningAndGrade> sorry
[05:32] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> drowningAndGrade: Kamikaze = Suicide run. See also "Installing Windows"
[05:32] <vbgunz> nineoneone: If I ran sudo kill -9 -1 how do I get all my system services back up? probably can't especially if I cannot access the terminal huh?
[05:32] <drowningAndGrade> or running windows
[05:33] <nineoneone> ah nice everything in the dpkg -l   now is ii  :)
[05:33] <hitmanWilly> :)
[05:33] <nineoneone> im a crappy hamper again
[05:33] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> XD
[05:34] <vbgunz> well, what do I have to lose, I need my terminal :)
[05:34] <hitmanWilly> ah hah, intelikey, trying to hide on me :)
[05:34] <drowningAndGrade> is there a way to keep programming in a direct x game engine i was using on windows on kubuntu?
[05:35] <intelikey> vbgunz you run   init 3
[05:35] <vbgunz> intelikey: thank you, was just about to give it a try :)
[05:35] <intelikey> hitmanWilly you know someone else that would be brute forcing dpkg ?
[05:35] <vbgunz> intelikey: sudo or no sudo
[05:35] <intelikey> sudo
[05:35] <hitmanWilly> lol
[05:35] <vbgunz> ok, got it
[05:35] <vbgunz> brb
[05:35] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> ...
[05:36] <intelikey> vbgunz if you can't see anything   ctrl alt del
[05:36] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> I... don't... beleive it...
[05:36] <hitmanWilly> i shoulda guessed on that one
[05:36] <vbgunz> got it
[05:36] <drowningAndGrade> is there a way to keep programming in a direct x game engine i was using on windows on kubuntu?
[05:36] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> there was a digikam 3rd party repo all this time...
[05:36] <Biovore> drowningAndGrade: wine?
[05:36] <drowningAndGrade> what ide would i use?
[05:37] <Biovore> drowningAndGrade: switch to SDL
[05:37] <hitmanWilly> drowningAndGrade: you can program anything you want, it just won't compile sice the libs aren't there :)
[05:37] <drowningAndGrade> yip
[05:37] <drowningAndGrade> but with vb.net all i had to include were the dlls
[05:37] <Biovore> most pro on linux use vi or emacs..
[05:37] <Biovore> gui's are for noobs
[05:38] <hitmanWilly> drowningAndGrade: those ARE the libs
[05:38] <drowningAndGrade> i have the dlls
[05:38] <Biovore> dosn't help you on linux..
[05:38] <Biovore> dlls are for windows
[05:38] <hitmanWilly> drowningAndGrade: not relly sure if dlls can be used a nix libs...don't think so
[05:39] <Biovore> On all platforms (other then windows) you have to use OpenGL
[05:39] <hitmanWilly> drowningAndGrade: you may want to see if vb will work under wine if you're really bound and determined to use dx
[05:40] <drowningAndGrade> i just had this game going in windows and vb.net and this realy great game engine, and then i got tired of buying crashy windows
[05:40] <hitmanWilly> drowningAndGrade: since there's no vb compiler for nix either, at least that I know of...
[05:40] <intelikey> Biovore i'll never make pro...
[05:40] <Biovore> ouch
[05:40] <Biovore> lol
[05:40] <hitmanWilly> either that or vim
[05:41] <Biovore> columb edit mode rules!!!
[05:41] <Biovore> epecialy for VHDL
[05:41] <hitmanWilly> anjuta is nice for really large projects
[05:41] <drowningAndGrade> if i put up a website with this start of a game, then im going to have to explain to employers on the site that i had to ditch windows because it crashes on me all the time
[05:42] <drowningAndGrade> was there a vb.net ide on linux?
[05:42] <Biovore> hmm.. well you can go the road epic and ID went..  They develop on linux and then port to windows and platforms
[05:42] <hitmanWilly> drowningAndGrade: lol
[05:43] <drowningAndGrade> windows is realy super annoying
[05:43] <intelikey> ^5
[05:43] <hitmanWilly> drowningAndGrade: i doubt you'll EVER see one of those :)
[05:43] <Biovore> well using VB isn't going to fix that problem..
[05:43] <drowningAndGrade> great
[05:43] <Biovore> that and VB is slow..
[05:43] <drowningAndGrade> daarn
[05:43] <hitmanWilly> drowningAndGrade: learn C/C++ and opengl
[05:43] <Biovore> ^ yeah.. thats the way to go..
[05:43] <drowningAndGrade> it works well with 3d engines that are made for it
[05:43] <drowningAndGrade> it realy cool with 3d engines that are put well together for it
[05:44] <drowningAndGrade> daarn
[05:44] <Biovore> you can get the hot specs off nvidia/ati developers and can use all the fancy direct X10 stuff under opengl under custom calls that are not yet part of any standard..
[05:44] <Biovore> OpenGL stand is under going some masive changes in the next year
[05:44] <drowningAndGrade> im going to have a small crisis
[05:44] <hitmanWilly> drowningAndGrade: that's probably the best way to do that, plus the apps will be portable to most any other platform
 im going to have a small crisis  <-- Thank you for using Microsoft.. Can we create another desaster for you to day.
[05:45] <hitmanWilly> windows does not play well with other platforms
[05:46] <Biovore> yeah.. even apple plays nice with gnu..
[05:46] <Biovore> and wun
[05:46] <Biovore> (sun)
[05:46] <hitmanWilly> oh, btw the ps3 runs opengl as well :)
[05:46] <Biovore> yup
[05:46] <evilmm> is an int14 when booting a live cd always the video card?
[05:46] <Biovore> UT3 will run on linux mac and PS3  and will be network portable between them
[05:47] <Biovore> evilmm: depends whats using interrupt 14
[05:47] <hitmanWilly> so personnally, i don't see why the big games for the ps3 couldn't be ported
[05:47] <Biovore> hitmanWilly: well the good news it they peobably will.. alot of the are being based on the UT3 engine
[05:48] <hitmanWilly> thereby ending the "hardcore gamer" windows lock-in :)
[05:48] <hitmanWilly> hopefully, anyway
[05:48] <Biovore> well.. microsoft backed games will always be windows locked-in
[05:48] <hitmanWilly> yeah, but there aren't THAT many of those...yet
[05:48] <evilmm> going to bed
[05:49] <evilmm> night all
[05:49] <hitmanWilly> night
[05:51] <raghu> im soo frustrated with this flash problem
[05:51] <raghu> every time i load a page that has flash like youtube it crashes when i click a link
[05:51] <raghu> there is no fix anywhere on the web
[05:52] <raghu> !flash
[05:52] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[05:54] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> I'm off to bed. Later all. *sets away*
[05:59] <raghu> thanks for all the help
[05:59] <raghu> !question
[05:59] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:59] <raghu> lol
[05:59] <Biteyni> intelli?
[05:59] <raghu> every time i load a page that has flash like youtube it crashes when i click a link
[05:59] <Biteyni> intelikey?
[05:59] <raghu> flash crashes
[06:00] <raghu> i mean the web browser crashes
[06:00] <raghu> whats intelikey
[06:00] <Biteyni> no im asking if hes at his computer :p
[06:00] <Biteyni> update flash?
[06:00] <raghu> i did
[06:00] <Biteyni> and check settings
[06:00] <raghu> i did
[06:01] <raghu> its a huge problem
[06:01] <hitmanWilly> raghu: what browser?
[06:01] <raghu> konqueror and firefox
[06:01] <hitmanWilly> both?
[06:01] <raghu> yeah
[06:01] <raghu> if theres too much flash it just seems to stop working and then the kde thing comes up and says terminate or keep running
[06:01] <hitmanWilly> sounds like the flash plugin is corrupted somehow, try a remove and reinstall
[06:01] <raghu> the flash works tho
[06:02] <Biteyni> remove and reinstall
[06:02] <raghu> how do i do that
[06:02] <raghu> how do i uninstall the flash
[06:03] <hitmanWilly> raghu: sudo dpkg -P flashplugin-nonfree; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:05] <raghu> k
[06:05] <Biteyni> growl could not install ubuntu
[06:05] <raghu> it says download complete
[06:05] <raghu> md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
[06:06] <raghu> The Flash plugin is NOT installed.
[06:06] <hitmanWilly> well, there's the problem, the download is corrupted
[06:07] <raghu> hmm
[06:07] <raghu> so what do i do
[06:07] <hitmanWilly> raghu: did you get it with apt?
[06:07] <raghu> i checked the about:plugins in mozilla
[06:08] <raghu>  libflashplayer.so is the name of the file being used to output flv's
[06:08] <hitmanWilly> raghu: its uninstalled right now, try restarting firefox
[06:09] <raghu> k
[06:09] <raghu> still there
[06:10] <hitmanWilly> raghu: hmm, well, the .so file should be gone with the uninstall, i doubt flash would open
[06:12] <hitmanWilly> raghu: for some reason, the download is getting corrupted
[06:12] <hitmanWilly> raghu: i would suggest trying again later
[06:13] <joel> hello everyone
[06:14] <joel> exit
[06:16] <eazye2008> alright people so i installed beryl how do i get the cube thingy running
[06:22] <wolferine> eazye2008, in the beryl manager
[06:24] <intelikey> hmm looks like i pinged out.   did i miss anything important while gone ?
[06:25] <intelikey> i guess not.
[06:26] <kury> my friend screwed up his xorg.conf on his knew kubuntu system.... and I was going to help him make a new one... but he doesn't have xorgconfig or anything to generate a new one...  and he doesn't seem to have network access.. any ideas?
[06:27] <intelikey> kury cause ubuntu never has used xorgconfig
[06:27] <kury> intelikey, is their a similiar xorg.conf generator program??
[06:27] <intelikey> kury sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:28] <kury> intelikey, will do.. I'll check that out.. thx
[06:32] <trakinas> does anyone knows an cd-audio burner who imports playlists?
[06:33] <trakinas> k3b doesnt. :/
[06:33] <trakinas> (no problems if it is gtk. )
[06:33] <intelikey> trakinas  !i
[06:33] <trakinas> intelikey: sup!
[06:34] <intelikey> oh that's  not eye    !i
[06:35] <trakinas> ?
[06:35] <trakinas> Im confused
[06:37] <intelikey> not I == !i    i don't know of a burner that imports playlists   and now by using shell code shorthand i have liengthened my post by 800%
[06:37] <trakinas> ahhh
[06:37] <trakinas> i see now
[06:37] <intelikey> :)
[06:38] <intelikey> and i can't use !i as a single string cause the bot gets confused
[06:38] <intelikey> !i
[06:38] <intelikey> what bot ????
[06:38] <intelikey> ubotu wake up
[06:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wake up - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:38] <intelikey> that bot
[06:41] <ijul> hey guys
[06:41] <ijul> I think I really need help, here :s
[06:41] <raylu> !question
[06:41] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:42] <ijul> thank you
[06:42] <ijul> ok, I've installed kubuntu, and I had to change my graphic card, from ATI to NVIDIA
[06:42] <ijul> I just managed to trick the driver into having a better resolution than 320x240@30
[06:42] <K-Ryan> !resolution
[06:42] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:43] <K-Ryan> !modeline
[06:43] <ubotu> A Modeline is a config line in the X server configuration file that gives info about a connected display and how to drive it at a specified display resolution. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFree86_Modeline for more details. Here are 2 links to generate modelines which fit your monitor: http://bohne-lang.de/spec/linux/modeline/ and http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl
[06:43] <K-Ryan> That one
[06:43] <intelikey> ijul so recofigure it.
[06:43] <ijul> now, I m getting some REALLY weird result with beryl, not to mention, I cant boot emerald and Kiba dock also fucks up :s
[06:43] <ijul> no, now I got 1024x768
[06:43] <intelikey> !nv | ijul
[06:43] <ubotu> ijul: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:43] <ijul> its installed
[06:44] <ijul> the problem is I can't boot emerald :s
[06:44] <intelikey> oh emerald
[06:44] <ijul> yeah :s
[06:44] <intelikey> !beryl
[06:44] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:44] <ijul> now I think there is an alternative, Heliodor, right?
[06:45] <bones_> If I were to get ubuntu installed on a laptop would I be able to compleatly migrate over to Kubuntu with no gnome left?
[06:45] <intelikey> bones_ yeah if you strip it before you add the desktop
[06:45] <K-Ryan> bones_: It would be better to just install Kubuntu
[06:46] <intelikey> bones_ there are docs on the net about libs that gnome depends on
[06:46] <intelikey> or SRN9
[06:46] <SRN9> :P
[06:46] <SRN9> I see
[06:48] <intelikey> my openion is, install then install kde     then  for Q in `dpkg -l | cut -d' ' -f3` ;do apt-get remove $Q ;done ;apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:49] <SRN9> and that takes GDM out of the picture?
[06:49] <intelikey> or better to -y that first apt get
[06:49] <intelikey> it does
[06:49] <intelikey> it takes all non-essentials out
[06:49] <intelikey> and the gui is definitly non-essential
[06:49] <SRN9> ok so none of the bloat just the basics to ensure a working system?
[06:50] <intelikey> define working ?
[06:50] <intelikey> :)
[06:50] <SRN9> GUI and works well enough after all changes:P
[06:50] <intelikey> see above posts ^
 it takes all non-essentials out
 and the gui is definitly non-essential
[06:51] <SRN9> Ok I see now.
[06:51] <intelikey> SRN9 sounds like you want to just get the ubuntu CD
[06:51] <intelikey> errr kubuntu
[06:52] <intelikey> K'ubuntu CD
[06:53] <intelikey> SRN9 then don't run my command string.
[06:53] <SRN9> yeah I may just need to fresh install
[06:53] <intelikey> SRN9 one quick Q   why does it matter if gnome is installed or not, if you don't use it ?
[06:53] <trakinas> intelikey: k3b can import via amarok playlist.
[06:54] <intelikey> you can have many desktop environments
[06:54] <intelikey> trakinas ok.   i'll remember that until i log off, so if anyone asks again i can tell them
[06:55] <intelikey> hmm looks like gnome eats about     After unpacking 710MB of additional disk space will be used.
[06:56] <trakinas> intelikey: you create a new playlist in amarok, save it with any given name. the just drag and drop it into k3b cd audio dialog.
[06:56] <SRN9> ok well never mind then:P I thought it was more.
[06:56] <SRN9> I dont use it so I did not know :P
[06:57] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38110
[06:57] <deathweaver> anyone got a minute to help a kubuntu newbie?
[06:57] <intelikey> heres one for kde  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38111
[06:58] <intelikey> After unpacking 764MB of additional disk space will be used.
[06:58] <SRN9> so if im correct all together 1.4gb? together
[06:58] <SRN9> or am I just a bit off
[06:59] <trakinas> just a few packs
[06:59] <intelikey> SRN9 no less.  cause many repetes in the two lists
[07:00] <intelikey> SRN9 those are the meta packages for  gnome  and  kde   not ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop  which will inclued several non-*de* apps
[07:00] <intelikey> i can run the other meta packages throught if you like
[07:01] <SRN9> no thats great
[07:01] <SRN9> that was all the assistance I needed on that.
[07:01] <dvm> how can i run the glade-3 after adding all the widgets?
[07:02] <intelikey> here are the other two anyway   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38112    "inline"
[07:04] <intelikey> 1402MB for ubuntu-desktop and 1195MB for kubuntu-desktop     i may have a few of the things kubuntu-desktop depends on already installed.
[07:04] <intelikey> dvm i'm totally clue-by-four'less
[07:07] <intelikey> i just fired up a gui,  somebody call that nine one one number what ever it is...
[07:07] <intelikey> i may be sick
[07:12] <klobster> intelikey: do you even have a mouse?
[07:13] <intelikey> always
[07:13] <intelikey> gpm
[07:13] <intelikey> !info gpm
[07:13] <ubotu> gpm: General Purpose Mouse Interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.19.6-23build1 (feisty), package size 340 kB, installed size 660 kB
[07:13] <intelikey> left button copy right button    * Starting mouse interface server: gpm                                  [ ok ] 
[07:13] <intelikey> paste
[07:14] <klobster> oh yeah, I remember that
[07:14] <intelikey> the console seems kinda bare without it...
[07:16] <raylu> what does gpm do?
[07:17] <intelikey> console mouse
[07:17] <intelikey> lets you copy and paste in the console, also some apps have mouse support like elinks and mc  but i disable them so they don't get in the way of copy and paste...
[07:18] <raylu> ...
[07:18] <raylu> but you already have that...
[07:18] <intelikey> explain
[07:18] <klobster> and it's installed.  thanks intelikey
[07:18] <intelikey> klobster welcome
[07:19] <raylu> !klobster
[07:19] <raylu> :(
[07:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about klobster - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:19] <raylu> !find klobster
[07:19] <ubotu> Package/file klobster does not exist in feisty
[07:19] <raylu> apt can't find it either
[07:19] <clouder_> How do I make columns slide over when I'm adjusting their width rather than shrinking the next one over, speciically in Amarok (the playlist column information), but would be helpful in any app?
[07:21] <klobster> I am not a package i am a free man!
[07:22] <intelikey> get all your klobsterZ at 127.0.0.1
[07:22] <intelikey> kinda like warez ya know.
[07:22] <intelikey> :)
[07:23] <klobster> !info gpm
[07:23] <ubotu> gpm: General Purpose Mouse Interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.19.6-23build1 (feisty), package size 340 kB, installed size 660 kB
[07:23] <klobster> raylu ^^
[07:23] <sfire> will a 256MB ATI Radeon X1300 Pro work easily with feisty?
[07:23] <raylu> OH
[07:23] <raylu> lol =\
[07:23] <raylu> sorry, klobster
[07:24] <raylu> i remember seeing you too
[07:24] <raylu> which is why i vaguely remembered the name
[07:24] <intelikey> sfire ati  yuch
[07:24] <intelikey> !ati
[07:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:24] <sfire> intelikey: its a system on dell I'm looking to buy
[07:24] <sfire> I've always gone nvidia
[07:24] <intelikey> or even intel
[07:25] <intelikey> i810 works well
[07:25] <intelikey> the best i can say about "ATI" is that some idiot seems to buy a lot of them
[07:26] <sfire> well the computer is a steal.. is the ATI a deal breaker?
[07:26] <intelikey> "every hour some idiot buys another ATI card"   :)))
[07:26] <sfire> it will work right?
[07:26] <intelikey> sfire some people get them to yes.   some dont.
[07:28] <intelikey> and when he sleeps.
[07:28] <intelikey> never mind.
[07:29] <sfire> ok... I'm going to buy it
[07:29] <sfire> hopefully I'll get lucky
[07:29] <intelikey> "every 47 minutes someone gets ran over in LA"
[07:30] <intelikey> boy you need to watch out for that guy...  he's a real driving hazard
[07:31] <klobster> man, maybe you should stick with the cli; your jokes were better
[07:31] <raylu> [21:01:33.734]  <SaM[i] @USEast> When i try  to connect it, i get this message: Invalid Password [21:01:36.562]  <SaM[i] @USEast> whats that mean?
[07:32] <raylu> [12:48:13.281]  <Sixen@Lordaeron> Hello, I am a BOT. I have tons of information. To find out what I know whisper '.help' to me. All commands are prefixed with a period. [12:48:24.484]  <ptheb> .help to me
[07:32] <vzduch> wtf?
[07:33] <raylu> lol, since intelli is telling jokes :P
[07:33] <intelikey> :)
[07:34] <intelikey> what network is that on ?
[07:34] <raylu> battle.net
[07:34] <intelikey> :)
[07:34] <raylu> ?
[07:34] <intelikey> ok.
[07:36] <kury> my friend runs kubunutu and has uninstalled knetworkmanager do to some problems with it... but now it says we can't reinstall it because it can't commit the changes because it would break packages...
[07:36] <kury> how can I help him fix this??
[07:36] <raylu> are you using adept?
[07:36] <raylu> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:37] <kury> yes he uses adept..
[07:37] <raylu> run that
[07:37] <intelikey> kury you can   sudo apt-get install knetworkmanager     to see what it conflicts
[07:37] <raylu> ^
[07:37] <raylu> or what intelikey said
[07:38] <intelikey> kury it's possably a ligitimate conflict,  in which case you would need to uninstall the conflicting package to install that.
[07:39] <intelikey> ligitimiti   i cint spill viry will
[07:42] <joseph> Can anyone help me I just updated ubuntu and added kde somewhere in the process I managed to somehow make it so the grub loader has a background and the scroll bar is black on black how can I change the scroll bar to another color?
[07:43] <vzduch> joseph: punctuation marks exist for a reason..
[07:43] <wolferine> he has a question mark
[07:44] <vzduch> he should have 2.. and 2 full stops
[07:44] <vzduch> and perhaps an occasional comma
[07:44] <joseph> It's one question and I was trying to be detailed
[07:44] <intelikey> question mark is not a full stop ?
[07:45] <intelikey> !usplash | joseph
[07:45] <ubotu> joseph: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[07:45] <wolferine> detailed has nothing to do with it
[07:45] <raylu> ooh
[07:46] <intelikey> we don't really care how you punctuate your grammer   as long as it's not with the enter key.
[07:46] <raylu> is there a way to get loading screen text to show? (loading screen = before login, after grub, during kubuntu blue progress bar)
[07:46] <kury> raylu, intelikey, that worked guys... thanks
[07:46] <raylu> o.0...that was slow :P
[07:47] <intelikey> kury welcome
[07:47] <vzduch> raylu: /boot/grub/menu.lst -> delete 'splash' from the kernel line and replace it w/ a VGA mode
[07:48] <raylu> actually, you can have both ^^
[07:48] <raylu> and i think you have to take out quiet too
[07:48] <vzduch> other distros use 'splash=verbose' for that
[07:48] <vzduch> dunno if it works in *buntu
[07:48] <raylu> but my previous config was
[07:48] <raylu> root=UUID=e9c1db5e-e47d-47d7-ae80-8eba676259a1 ro splash vga=792
[07:49] <raylu> i didn't notice the change till you pointed it out
[07:49] <arun> Is it possible to change the look of KMail?
[07:49] <raylu> yes. thunderbird ^^
[07:49] <arun> Tweak some of the css
[07:49] <arun> haha
[07:49] <intelikey> kmail....  mut
[07:49] <raylu> you can try tweaking kontact, but i stopped using it and haven't touched it in a while; brb
[07:49] <intelikey> t
[07:50] <intelikey> !find Mail
[07:50] <arun> i dont like the way thunderbird looks in kde (or gnome, for that matter)
[07:50] <ubotu> Found: emacs, emacs21, emacs21-nox, evolution, exim4-daemon-heavy (and 250 others)
[07:51] <intelikey> i don't like the disk space it takes up
[07:51] <vzduch> I don't like some of its behaviour.. at least the way it was till I stopped using it (1.0.7 or so)
[07:51] <arun> intelikey: thunderbird? or kmail
[07:52] <arun> evolution isn't free, is it
[07:52] <raylu> it is
[07:52] <arun> any good kde mail clients apart from kmail?
[07:52] <raylu> !evolution
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about evolution - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <raylu> o.0
[07:52] <raylu> !find evolution
[07:52] <ubotu> Found: evolution, evolution-common, evolution-dbg, evolution-dev, evolution-exchange (and 18 others)
[07:52] <raylu> yay.
[07:52] <vzduch> !info evolution
[07:52] <ubotu> evolution: groupware suite with mail client and organizer. In component main, is optional. Version 2.10.1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 2478 kB, installed size 7704 kB
[07:52] <intelikey> arun tbird
[07:52] <raylu> and my bootscreen is perfect now ^^
[07:52] <arun> oh evolution is different from novell evolution
[07:52] <intelikey> arun ff tbird mozilla in general
[07:53] <raylu> what does the ro option do, though?
[07:53] <intelikey> raylu read only
[07:53] <raylu> i see
[07:53] <raylu> the only diff in safemode is "single"
[07:53] <raylu> what's that?
[07:53] <arun> so kmail is the only good kde mail client?
[07:53] <raylu> arun, tbird!
[07:53] <intelikey> raylu because fs checking on a read/write fs is bad.
[07:53] <raylu> and evolution works on kde too
[07:54] <intelikey> raylu single user mode.   runlevel 1
[07:54] <vzduch> raylu: single-user mode, I'd say, equivalent to runlevel 1 in traditional terms
[07:54] <raylu> lol
[07:54] <raylu> awesome. now, if only my touchpad scrolled...
[07:54] <arun> i know it works on kde, but it doesn't look good
[07:55] <raylu> evolution is gtk, right?
[07:55] <arun> silly stuff like that is important to me :p
[07:55] <raylu> but you can change the gtk theme
[07:55] <arun> ?
[07:55] <arun> how
[07:55] <raylu> i don't know...yet :P
[07:55] <arun> haha
[07:55] <intelikey> default = the starting point on the very long road to "right"
[07:55] <arun> i'm using a theme for firefox.. so my firefox looks and works great
[07:56] <arun> i couldn't find any good theme for thunderbird
[07:56] <arun> all the good themes are for 1.5.x
[07:56] <raylu> no...for gtk, default = burns your eyes out, making it impossible to get to "acceptable"
[07:56] <arun> not for 2.0+
[07:56] <Fri> HI all,
[07:56] <intelikey> is all back ?
[07:56] <vzduch> lol
[07:57] <all> now he is'
[07:57] <all> hi fri
[07:57] <raylu> ah ha!
[07:57] <Fri> Hi
[07:57] <arun> what email clients do you use (that look decent)
[07:57] <raylu> alt+f1 > system settings > appearance > [bottom] , arun
[07:58] <Fri> do you know a good firewall for kubuntu
[07:58] <all> iptabels
[07:58] <raylu> !firewall
[07:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[07:58] <raylu> (don't use guarddog)
[07:58] <arun> raylu: i know how to do it, i mean where cani get good gtk styles
[07:58] <all> iptables is the linux firewall
[07:59] <raylu> arun, no idea :P
[07:59] <all> although ipchains has been used in the past...
[07:59] <raylu> what's so bad about thunderbird?
[07:59] <Fri> so you're telling me that installing a firewall is not necessary
[07:59] <raylu> well, its actually never neccessary
[07:59] <raylu> just make sure nothing is daemon-ing on your system
[07:59] <all> Fri do you have anti-virus setup   :)))
[08:00] <raylu> lol...
[08:00] <all> !virus
[08:00] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[08:00] <Fri> yes I use KlamAV
[08:00] <raylu> arun, http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/923/
[08:00] <dotz> how do i make apt-get such that when i type apt-get install lib<tab> then it will list all the matching packages?
[08:00] <all> Fri heh ok.   you should probably read that anyway &
[08:01] <all> dotz you don't....    but apt-get install lib*   will get them all...    you don't want that tho.
[08:02] <all> dotz bash completion    see /etc/bash_completion
[08:02] <all> or rather    . /etc/bash_completion       will enable it for that shell
[08:02] <dotz> oh
[08:02] <arun> raylu: thanks
[08:02] <dotz> completion let me try
[08:03] <raylu> ...
[08:03] <raylu> dotz, aptitude search lib
[08:03] <arun> raylu: is there any css file i can tweak to customise kmail?
[08:03] <vzduch> the city council of Rotterdam, the Netherlands, is going to close down 27 coffeeshops because they're located too close to schools
[08:03] <all> . /etc/bash_completion
[08:03] <raylu> arun, again, haven't used it in forever; never got that deep
[08:03] <raylu> but i doubt it reads colors and whatnot from a css file...
[08:03] <all> raylu he did specify apt  so   apt-cache search blah
[08:03] <dotz> all: do i have to make it executable? its not now
[08:03] <raylu> more likely xml or something similar
[08:03] <all> . /etc/bash_completion
[08:04] <raylu> all: i know...which is why i said aptitude :P
[08:04] <all> dotz just like that
[08:04] <all> . /etc/bash_completion
[08:04] <all> with the dot
[08:04] <dotz> -bash: ./etc/bash_completion: No such file or directory
[08:04] <all> you didn't use the dot
[08:04] <raylu> ...
[08:04] <vzduch> /etc/bash-completion
[08:04] <raylu> you mean no dot
[08:04] <dotz> i used
[08:04] <all> . /etc/bash_completion
[08:05] <all> tty3 [greg$~]  . /etc/bash_completion
[08:05] <all> tty3 [greg$~] 
[08:05] <all> just like that.....     come on  you can do it.
[08:05] <raylu> o.0?
[08:05] <raylu> what does that do?
[08:06] <dotz> mdserver3:~# ./etc/bash_completion
[08:06] <dotz> -bash: ./etc/bash_completion: No such file or directory
[08:06] <raylu> dotz, with a space
[08:06] <dotz> -rw-r--r-- 1 root   root   211K 2006-12-12 05:20 bash_completion
[08:06] <dotz> oh
[08:06] <dotz> ok
[08:06] <dotz> got it!
[08:06] <all> dotz    so if you can't copy and paste a single line,  or even type it correctly i'm finished helping
[08:06] <dotz> thx alot
[08:06] <raylu> all, what does that do?
[08:07] <all> raylu enables bash_completion on that shell.
[08:07] <raylu> o.0
[08:07] <raylu> explain the command please?
[08:07] <all> raylu man it.
[08:07] <dotz> all: do i have to do that all the time or its a once-only thing?
[08:07] <raylu> No manual entry for bash_completion
[08:09] <makuseru> hi, i have a question about mplayer, when you do 'mplayer -dumpaudio video.avi' it dumps the audio stram out for you, is there anyway to dump only a portion of it out? just like point a to point b, instead of dumping the entire stream?
[08:09] <all> dotz for all the time you need to put it in a startup file   i,e,  ~/.bash_bashrc
[08:10] <all> if you put the exact same command in there    it will run it for you each time you open a shell
[08:10] <all> errr login to a shell   or how ever you understand it
[08:11] <klobster> shout out: http:/firewater.tv best band ever.  give em your ears, then give em your money
[08:11] <raylu> makuseru, i'm looking at http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/man/en/mplayer.1.html
[08:11] <raylu> makuseru, you may want to try man mplayer
[08:12] <makuseru> already did
[08:12] <makuseru> klobster: stop spamming
[08:12] <raylu> audio-delay option
[08:13] <raylu> oh =\ that's probably not what you want
[08:13] <raylu> there's also a -delay for video, which does the same thing as -audio-delay [negative number] 
[08:13] <makuseru> haha, no
[08:14] <makuseru> heres what im trying to do
[08:14] <makuseru> i have an anime with a song in it i want, i want to just dump the audio from that one portion out
[08:15] <raylu> ...get an ost?
[08:15] <vzduch> dump it all, fire up Audacity & cut the song out (or rather everything else; you can invert the marking
[08:16] <makuseru> raylu: there isnt an ost for it
[08:16] <raylu> name of the anime/song?
[08:16] <vzduch> ah, the city cleanup company & their sweeping machine.. you can adjust your watch after its appearance ;)
[08:16] <makuseru> vzduch: i can never get audacity to work
[08:17] <makuseru> raylu: its Beck: Mongolian Chop Squad, they have a ost for the japanese version, but i want a song from the english dub
[08:17] <force> holas :)
[08:17] <raylu> ew. that's disgusting.
[08:17] <makuseru> what
[08:17] <raylu> an english dub :P
[08:17] <makuseru> ha
[08:17] <makuseru> i usually have the same opnion about that
[08:18] <force> todos hablan ingles ?
[08:18] <force> ninguno espaol ?
[08:18] <makuseru> but the japanese version, they try to speak english, so it ends up being engrigh and horrible
[08:18] <vzduch> !es | force_
[08:18] <ubotu> force_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:19] <force> gracias
[08:19] <vzduch> de nada
[08:19] <raylu> actually...those just happen to be either
[08:19] <raylu> words that they have incorporated into their language
[08:19] <makuseru> no
[08:19] <raylu> or words in english that don't translate
[08:19] <makuseru> it is them trying to sing in all english
[08:19] <raylu> or...that =\
[08:19] <makuseru> its horrible
[08:20] <makuseru> you would just have to hear it to see what i mean
[08:20] <raylu> ok, agreed =\
[08:20] <raylu> i know what you're talking about
[08:20] <makuseru> that and FLCL are the only dubbed animes worth watching
[08:20] <raylu> flcl scares me; are you going to use vzduch's solution?
[08:21] <tino_> #kubuntu-es
[08:22] <makuseru> raylu: im going to try to get audacity to work again, but i doubt it will
[08:29] <qlr> hello, how do i install wine?
[08:29] <raylu> sudo aptitude install wine
[08:29] <qlr> cant finde it in Adept Manager, also tryed sudo apt-get install wine
[08:29] <qlr> raylu: will try, thx
[08:29] <raylu> er...then it won't work
[08:30] <raylu> and you need to update your repositories
[08:30] <raylu> !sources.lst
[08:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sources.lst - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:30] <raylu> !sources.list
[08:30] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:30] <qlr> i have all Repositories (multiverse too) enabled in Adept
[08:31] <vzduch> !medibuntu
[08:31] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[08:31] <raylu> o.0
[08:31] <qlr> vzduch: will try thx
[08:31] <vzduch> wine is in Universe though
[08:32] <dotz> !apt-get
[08:32] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[08:33] <qlr> okay, how do i add a repository?
[08:33] <vzduch> there are several ways.. one is editing /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:34] <dotz> hi how do i find out which are the repository are available for etch, sg servers?
[08:34] <vzduch> dotz: try in ##debian
[08:36] <aznpridechinese> need help, trying to play the harry potter dvd but kaffine is giving me an error
[08:36] <vzduch> !css
[08:36] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[08:36] <qlr> vzduch: i belive i installed the medibuntu repositoryes, but still no wine :(
[08:37] <vzduch> qlr: as I said, it's in Universe
[08:37] <aznpridechinese> i already have libdvdcss2 installed
[08:37] <qlr> vzduch: universe is enabled
[08:37] <vzduch> then it should be there
[08:37] <vzduch> <-- gotta run to work.. wish you a peaceful Friday the 13th :)
[08:38] <qlr> i get: libwine, libwine-dev and winefish nothing else :(
[08:38] <qlr> argh
[08:38] <qlr> anyone here would like to help me to install wine?
[08:39] <aznpridechinese> will gxine work in kde?
[08:41] <dotz> how do u monitor a file's size growing? is there a command to do that.. i remember its watch or something but forgot
[08:42] <raylu> watch --help
[08:43] <phoenixz> Hi there! I have a kubuntu installation with 3 audio devices: one onboard audio (not using it, cable cant reach there yet :) ), one usb audio stick (using that one for my stereo) and one usb phone.. Im using amarok with ALSA, but I have no sound! :( Who can help me to fix this?
[08:43] <qlr> need help getting wine...
[08:43] <Syntux> Hi
[08:44] <raylu> qlr, pastebin your sources.list?
[08:44] <raylu> i g2g =\
[08:44] <Syntux> I'm using ubuntu and would like to try kubuntu, is it safe just to apt-get kubuntu-desktop ? try it out and then remove it ?
[08:44] <qlr> raylu: argh
[08:44] <qlr> have a nice day
[08:44] <arun> i just figured out how to import from thunderbird to kmail and vice versa.. linux is so cool
[08:44] <qlr> ANYONE wanna
[08:45] <qlr> (sorry, bad enter usage) help me to get wine running?
[08:45] <arun> it's so easy to import and export emails without losing things, across platforms and applications
[08:45] <arun> using open formats
[08:45] <phoenixz> arun, about kmail, its kind of unstable here.. in 3 days using it I have had like 5 crashes.. is that normal for kmail?
[08:46] <arun> phoenixz: i haven't used it a lot, man.. just playing around with it
[08:47] <phoenixz> Me too so far, got tired of the quirks of thunderbird but now it seems that kmail isnt 100% ok either :(
[08:47] <arun> ha, i know what you mean
[08:47] <arun> what can you do
[08:47] <phoenixz> Anyway, if anybody could please help me with Amarok, thats my big problem right now :)
[08:48] <arun> What's up?
[08:48] <phoenixz> ardchoille, I could put up some music.. if my sound would work :)
[08:48] <phoenixz> arun, just that.. I have no sound.. firefox gives no sound (youtube for example), amarok nothing, etc..
[08:48] <phoenixz> so actually, its not amarok.. its more the entire sound system
[08:48] <arun> was your sound working before?
[08:49] <arun> i mean was it working before and suddenly stopped working? or did it never work?
[08:50] <solid_liq> anyone know if there are packages I can install for the latest kde 4 alpha on feisty?
[08:50] <phoenixz> arun, dunno... installed kubuntu like 3 days ago and never had time to check sound yet until now.. so no it never worked yet
[08:51] <KevInAlaska> Howdy Folks... Might I ask a question on how to get that weather applet I use to have in KDE.  That was another install that I had it but same kubuntu feisty version though.
[08:51] <whippy> morning
[08:52] <solid_liq> KevInAlaska: right click on kicker, Add applet to panel, then click get new stuff
[08:52] <solid_liq> KevInAlaska: or uh, apt-get install kweather maybe
[08:53] <solid_liq> KevInAlaska: I thought they'd integrated get new stuff into the applet menu already, sorry
[08:53] <KevInAlaska> ahhh.. the add button is greyed out, must be why missed it when I was looking for it.  why would it be grayed out, any ideas?
[08:53] <KevInAlaska> and thank you for the good feed back
[08:54] <arun> phoenixz: did you check if the sound was working when you booted the livecd?
[08:54] <arun> Anyone using VMWare here?
[08:56] <solid_liq> KevInAlaska: it's greyed out just because you don't have anything selectec
[08:57] <solid_liq> KevInAlaska: er, selected
[08:58] <KevInAlaska> ahhh.. okay thank you solid_liq .. cheers mate. :)
[09:04] <whippy> does someone know "dvb-utils"?
[09:04] <whippy> i cant use it...
[09:05] <kraut> moin
[09:05] <phoenixz> arun, nope, haven't checked.. I had fedora installed before and though problematic, sound worked.. I heard kubuntu sound should be better but its very quiet here
[09:05] <phoenixz> arun,  I have used vmware, but on fedora
[09:07] <phoenixz> Anybody who could help me with sound problems in kubuntu? The problem being.. eh.. that there is none, its quiet..
[09:08] <dotz> !time
[09:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about time - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:08] <dotz> what's that thing that auto update time
[09:09] <phoenixz> dotz, ntp services you mean?
[09:09] <dotz> AHHH thx
[09:09] <dotz> !ntpdate
[09:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntpdate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:11] <phoenixz> dotz, Id say, use the adept manager to search for ntp
[09:13] <dotz> i have ntpdate but i don't know how to add a time server or let it auto update every time..hmm
[09:13] <dotz> ntp.conf?
[09:13] <whippy> does someone know, how to run dvb-s uncomplicatedly?
[09:13] <dotz> 13 Jul 23:13:09 ntpdate[4141] : no servers can be used, exiting
[09:17] <solid_liq> !kde4
[09:17] <ubotu> For information on KDE 4 (not to be released for quite some time yet), see: http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html. Also worth checking are: appeal/phonon/plasma/solid.kde.org
[09:17] <rohan> is there some problem with the "Kubuntu Hardware Database" program ? all hdb's that i send using that program are listed as interim .. e.g. http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/?xml=95fa009ef390709fc17a743cc38d5942 and http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/?xml=4eebe92a8e973ae9122d74f6e476d5eb
[09:17] <ninHer> hi all
[09:19] <phoenixz> Hey all, how do I specify that a certain ALSA device must be used in for example amarok?
[09:19] <arun> if i find any GPL artwork, can i use it on a web site?
[09:19] <AmyRose> phoenixz: You could try creating a .asoundrc
[09:21] <rohan> arun: yes. and this is not the place to ask this question ..
[09:21] <arun> alright, sorry
[09:31] <phoenixz> AmyRose, with what in it?
[09:31] <phoenixz> AmyRose, Should sound not work out of the box? I have 4 audio devices and no sound..
[09:31] <rohan> can someone please give me the output of "ls /etc/init.d/hal*" on an up-to-date feisty system ? thanks ..
[09:32] <rohan> i am trying to debug a problem that is occuring on my system ..
[09:32] <phoenixz> rohan, /etc/init.d/halt
[09:32] <rohan> phoenixz: that's all ?
[09:33] <phoenixz> rohan, yeah, sorry to disappoint you :)
[09:33] <rohan> thanks phoenixz .. then it's surprising that there is no entry listed for hal
[09:33] <rohan> how would one control hal on a ubuntu feisty system, then ?
[09:33] <rohan> and i think it's a problem in the updated packages
[09:33] <phoenixz> rohan, not sure.. I do remember toying with HAL on Fedora, still having nightmares..
[09:34] <phoenixz> specially when it finally worked on FC5.. then FC6 came and hal was completely different :)
[09:36] <waylandbill> phoenixz: put the name of the device in the sound system's, hardware tab under Override Device Location in system settings
[09:37] <rohan> phoenixz: the live cd has scripts to control hal. the updated packages remove it.
[09:37] <rohan> the updated packages in -backports
[09:37] <phoenixz> waylandbill,what name would I put there? hw=3,0?
[09:38] <snipex> where can i set that kde doesnt restore my previous session ?
[09:38] <waylandbill> phoenixz: /dev/dsp or one of the other dsp devices.
[09:38] <simpul> helllooooooooooooooo
[09:38] <clouder_> system setting -> advanced -> sessions I think
[09:38] <snipex> ok ty
[09:39] <phoenixz> simpul, helly to you too
[09:39] <simpul> thnksu
[09:39] <ttf> hi.. where can I find documentation for kubuntu-feisty? on http://kubuntu.org/documentation.php I can only see the docs for edgy
[09:39] <waylandbill> phoenixz: device location refers to a device node in /dev.
[09:39] <ttf> I am looking for the docs preferably in german
[09:40] <imo> I want to install Adobe Acrobatreader in kde. Anybody knows if there is a kubuntu package for it so I can install using Adept Manager?
[09:40] <snipex> clouder_ i dont see any 'Advanced' icon
[09:40] <clouder_> snipex: it's a tab
[09:41] <phoenixz> Id just like to take a peek at the new kde4.. Could I simply install it with adept, take a look, and then remove it again later?
[09:41] <snipex> i dont see it
[09:41] <phoenixz> WITHOUT risk of breaking my machine?
[09:42] <clouder_> snipex: up top there aren't two tabs one that says General and another that says Advanced?
[09:42] <snipex> Start > System Settings > ?
[09:42] <snipex> no there arent
[09:42] <clouder_> hmm
[09:44] <clouder_> anyone know the console command to pull up the session settings dialog?
[09:45] <imo> Is anybody using Adobe Acrobatreader in kubuntu here? If so, how did you install it?
[09:45] <phoenixz> waylandbill, Just configured that.. nothing happens
[09:46] <phoenixz> waylandbill, the devices are there, they are not muted (checked that with alsamixer), but there is no sound
[09:46] <waylandbill> phoenixz: did the sound system restart when you configured that?
[09:47] <phoenixz> I think it did.. let me try that again to be sure
[09:48] <dotz> !cron
[09:48] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[09:48] <phoenixz> waylandbill, sound system restarted (or it said so) when I pressed apply in sound system system, settings, hardware.. Then I went to General, pressed "Test sound" and heard nothing again
[09:49] <dotz> why is it crontab -l gives me no crontab for root .. when /etc/crontab have some things?
[09:49] <imo> ok, question asked in a different way. How do I setup Adept Manager to find proprietary software as well? (such as adobe acroread and opera)
[09:49] <Lynoure> dotz: because you have no crontab for root but do have stuff in /etc/crontab :)
[09:50] <phoenixz> waylandbill, hey, the "test sound" works! Hah!
[09:50] <Lynoure> dotz: quite normal situation, that.
[09:50] <phoenixz> waylandbill, but amarok is still quiet..
[09:50] <dotz> Lynoure: so will those things in /etc/crontab be running?
[09:50] <phoenixz> getting closer..
[09:50] <phoenixz> and closer...
[09:50] <dotz> i'm abit confused now.. the guides ask me to add the commands in crontab -e
[09:50] <phoenixz> waylandbill, kde is also giving sound now
[09:50] <waylandbill> phoenixz: try closing amarok all the way down?
[09:51] <Lynoure> dotz: yes.
[09:51] <dotz> but i realise /etc/crontab is there.. wouldn't that be double job
[09:51] <Lynoure> dotz: not really, because the systemwide crontab can take the user parameter
[09:52] <dotz> let's say i used crontab -e and add something.. where is this file?
[09:52] <Lynoure> dotz: root's own crontab is just that user's crontab. But, yeah, for clarity's sake many people use just the systemwide one.
[09:52] <phoenixz> waylandbill, I set amarok to auto detect and now there is sound!
[09:52] <phoenixz> great! thanks!
[09:53] <waylandbill> not a problem
[09:53] <waylandbill> another satisfied customer. ;-)
[09:53] <arun> is there any app that opens ico files
[09:53] <phoenixz> waylandbill, errr.. same problem still persists with firefox.. :) youtube does not give audio.. would you happen to know.. ?
[09:54] <snipex> Choose K-Menu->System Settings->User Account from the Desktop Menu System. Click the Session Manager button on the left. Ensure that the Restore manually saved session checkbox is enabled.
[09:54] <snipex> and i found session manager in KDE Components !!!!
[09:54] <snipex> :@
[09:55] <Lynoure> dotz: /var/spool/cron/crontabs
[09:55] <phoenixz> waylandbill, I am VERY satisfied with kubuntu.. :) ex-fedora, but very much not complaining about it :) Its just that linux audio really could/should be a bit better.. its always so complex, and not really out of the box
[09:55] <Lynoure> dotz: see   man crontab  for more fun info
[09:55] <dotz> Lynoure: let's say i want to add a new task daily like ntpdate , i create a +x file in /etc/cron.daily ?
[09:55] <waylandbill> phoenixz: I don't know where flash reads it's sound configuration from. Once you find that, you'll be home free.
[09:55] <dotz> ok
[09:55] <Lynoure> dotz: that's how I'd do it :)
[09:56] <waylandbill> phoenixz: I couldn't bring myself to like FC, but it was at 3 or 4 when I last tried. As for the audio, it's hard when you have more than one device. It doesn't really know which one you want.
[09:57] <waylandbill> phoenixz: most of the time /dev/dsp is sufficient since most laptops and desktops only have one output device.
[09:58] <phoenixz> waylandbill, it would be nice if there was like this standard audio card selector that programs could implement.. then for each sound enabled program you could just select "card 3 for this one" and card 2 for that one
[09:58] <phoenixz> waylandbill, I have 4 :) disaster strikes!
[10:01] <phoenixz> Anybody who could help me with fixing audio on Firefox?
[10:02] <waylandbill> phoenixz: I'm not sure windows programs have a 'standard' way. Every program has it's own special way to select a mixer device there too.
[10:03] <arun> is there any app that opens .ico files?
[10:04] <phoenixz> waylandbill, does windows even support multiple audio devices? :)
[10:05] <waylandbill> phoenixz: sure it does. I used to record multiple audio conversations to hard drive using multiple devices under windows.
[10:06] <waylandbill> phoenixz: flash uses Enlightened or OSS. You'll have to configure one (or both) of those.
[10:07] <phoenixz> waylandbill, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204022
[10:07] <phoenixz> bless the day that flash will start using ALSA.. ESD is not even supported anymore, is it?
[10:08] <waylandbill> phoenixz: you're lucky flash is even supported under linux. Adobe didn't seem to care for the longest time.
[10:08] <phoenixz> waylandbill, I know... But I think linux is not to be ignored anymore.. it was about time too
[10:15] <Lopin> HELP!
[10:15] <Lopin> Okay...  Not that urgent, but I am getting mad...
[10:15] <rohan> Lopin: what is the problem /
[10:16] <Lopin> Kay...  I want to install Kubuntu, but can't boot off of my cd drive, cause it's busted up.  Can't boot off of the external, cause it's usb.  Can't get any boot floppies, or grub to work right...
[10:17] <Lopin> I'm still new to linux, so I might just be too much of a n00b to get this right...
[10:18] <ColdNunya> hello
[10:18] <SlimeyPete> Lopin: to be honest, it sounds like you're out of options. Getting hold of a replacement drive would probably be your best bet.
[10:18] <SlimeyPete> hi.
[10:19] <Lopin> Tried...  My computer manufacturer, Medion, used a proprietary drive, that they don't manufacture anymore...
[10:19] <waylandbill> Lopin: CD drives are rather cheap. Pop in a new one if you have an IDE channel open.
[10:19] <Lopin> I'd like some help with the idea of boot floppies, cause all I've found instruction-wise, just confuses me, so I just probably didn't make them right...
[10:19] <ColdNunya> my question is about detecting newly plugged in USB-HDD's.
[10:19] <Lopin> Laptop...
[10:19] <ColdNunya> in ubuntu\kubuntu
[10:20] <waylandbill> Lopin: ah. :-)
[10:20] <ColdNunya> i've tried the dmesg | last
[10:20] <ColdNunya> and sudo /etc/init.d/udev restart
[10:20] <Lopin> Does anyone know how to make a boot floppy?
[10:21] <waylandbill> Lopin: anything you find on booting from floppies is so outdated that it wouldn't be of much use.
[10:21] <ColdNunya> i've got a [/]  a [swap]  and 2x NTFS partitions
[10:22] <Lopin> Okay...  I did find something, that put GRUB on my windows partition, and had me modify my boot.ini file to launch it...  But when I went' to select it off of the boot menu, windows said that it needed to be reinstalled...
[10:22] <Lopin> Could I have done something wrong?
[10:22] <ColdNunya> anyone have a suggestion on mounting usb devices, or at least know the naming scheme
[10:22] <waylandbill> Lopin: if you know someone with a desktop, you can get a 2.5->3.5 adapter for a couple dollars and use their desktop to get the system installed.
[10:22] <ColdNunya> for the device
[10:23] <ColdNunya> mount -t vfat /dev/? /media/external
[10:23] <SlimeyPete> ColdNunya: usually /dev/sd* for usb stuff,I think
[10:23] <Lopin> Would that make it look like a standard IDE drive?  So, i could just install to the linux partition I've had sitting here for a few days?
[10:23] <ColdNunya> thats what i thought, but it detected my internal as sda1
[10:24] <SlimeyPete> ColdNunya: yeah, that's normal
[10:24] <SlimeyPete> pretty much everything seems to be sd* these days
[10:24] <Lopin> When I use Knoppix (or used, I should say) it called all my usb stuff usb(x)
[10:24] <waylandbill> Lopin. Right. It would just look like another drive in the desktop.
[10:26] <Lopin> Okay guys...  Thanks for the help...
[10:33] <gunix> [even|morn] ing
[10:34] <ColdNunya> i have to restart to get it to get it to recognize
[10:34] <gunix> I have a question about sound / line-input
[10:34] <ColdNunya> i've tried mounting every sda* n DEV
[10:35] <gunix> or getting stereo sound to work with mic input ?
[10:35] <yeniklasor> How can I connect internet with Zoom ADSL USB Modem?
[10:36] <dotz> i keep getting dpkg: error processing apache (--configure): in apt-get install apache
[10:36] <dotz> what should i do to clean it up? tried apt-get clean and apt-get autoclean
[10:37] <gunix> I cannot get any sound when plugging a jack into line-input, mic works but is mono only.
[10:42] <clouder> How do I keep my monitors from turning off after 30 minutes?  guidance power-manager crashes at kde start so I can't access displaymanager.  Is there any config file I can edit or something just to make kde not turn my monitors off?
[10:43] <ColdNunya> mount /media/EXTERNAL
[10:43] <ColdNunya> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdb1 is already mounted on /media/EXTERNAL
[10:43] <ColdNunya> mount failed
[10:43] <ColdNunya> i rebooted it and it ended up being on sdB1
[10:44] <ColdNunya> i'm sure i can mount it manualy now.
[10:44] <ColdNunya> caio
[10:49] <dotz> Cannot load /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so into server: /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory <-- why do i keep getting this while installing apache?
[10:53] <Lopin> Anyone heard of Wubi?
[10:55] <simpul> Hello
[10:57] <kuukkeli> Hello, i'm a linux newb. =) And i got few questions. :D
[10:59] <kuukkeli> how to update nvidia drivers and how to update my soundcards drivers
[10:59] <kuukkeli> Could somebody be helpful and tell me the answers or answer =D
[11:01] <kuukkeli> nikita
[11:02] <nikita> ?
[11:03] <kuukkeli> do you know how to update videocard and soundcard? =D
[11:03] <kuukkeli> drivers i mean
[11:04] <nikita> yes
[11:04] <kuukkeli> could you help me? =)
[11:04] <nikita> no
[11:05] <kuukkeli> okay.
[11:08] <Fri> Kuukkeli: you could download ENVY from http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[11:09] <kuukkeli> Fri, Thanks!
[11:09] <kuukkeli> Fri, do you know anything about updating soundcard driver? =)
[11:13] <evekubuntu> anyone here play eve online
[11:13] <evekubuntu> via kubuntu
[11:13] <evekubuntu> i have it all going well except the sound
[11:14] <Fri> Kuukkeli: which soundcar are u using?
[11:14] <evekubuntu> i set winecfg to use OSS .. and it works fine, till it crashes
[11:14] <evekubuntu> (the audio starts putting out pure static
[11:15] <Lynoure> evekubuntu: heh, I even had that in Windows when I tried eve
[11:15] <evekubuntu> Lynoure: Brutal
[11:16] <evekubuntu> I'm about to follow this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44753
[11:16] <qlr> noob question: how do i change the resolutin?
[11:16] <evekubuntu> qlr kubuntu ? k menu / system settings
[11:17] <evekubuntu> Monitor/Display
[11:17] <evekubuntu> or are you using nvidia drivers
[11:17] <qlr> evekubuntu: yep, it's kubuntu, i tryied that but i'm STILL in 1024x768
[11:17] <evekubuntu> did you install video drivers./
[11:17] <qlr> sort of......
[11:17] <evekubuntu> nvidia?
[11:18] <qlr> i installed it via the adept manager
[11:18] <evekubuntu> alt-f2 run nvidia-settings
[11:18] <qlr> it's nvidia yep
[11:18] <evekubuntu> you will have to use the nvidia control panel to change resolution now
[11:18] <evekubuntu> once installing driver
[11:18] <evekubuntu> to save it
[11:18] <evekubuntu> run from terminal
[11:18] <evekubuntu> sudo nvidia-settings
[11:19] <xst> I have a problem with the simpleviewer export plugin in gwenview: EXIF-rotated images are displayed correctly in both konqueror and gwenview but when I export them to simpleviewer they loose their rotation. It is like simpeviewer ignores exif rotation. Is that correct?
[11:19] <evekubuntu> i can neither confirm or deny those acusations
[11:20] <evekubuntu> gl to you sir
[11:22] <solid_liq> !luddite
[11:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about luddite - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:27] <qlr> thx for the help with the resolution :)
[11:30] <arun> Can anyone tell me where the images for amarok (or any other app) are stored? icons, etc
[11:31] <danya> apt-get -f install ? what does it stand for ?
[11:32] <Ilokaasu> danya: man apt-get
[11:32] <Ilokaasu> -f stands for fix install
[11:32] <solid_liq> hey, check this out:  http://freshmeat.net/projects/konsoledcopscheme/
[11:32] <danya> thank u :)
[11:35] <pag> arun, /usr/share/apps/amarok/images/  <- amarok has its default icon-scheme there
[11:35] <arun> pag: thanks a lot
[11:35] <pag> arun, dpkg -L nameoftheapp | grep whatever  can really be a friend ;)
[11:36] <arun> pag: thank you!
[11:37] <arun> question
[11:37] <arun> if i wanted to use the cdcover image on a website, would i be allowed to do so? i know this is offtopic, but just asking
[11:39] <pag> arun, read about Fair Use  on Wikipedia
[11:39] <arun> alright, thanks
[11:39] <arun> also, could you give me parameters for grep 'whatever'
[11:40] <pag> arun, ie.  grep png   or grep -i driver   depends really on what you need
[11:41] <arun> alright, thanks
[11:41] <pag> np :)
[11:45] <arun> this may be off topic as well, but would it be possible to obtain high res vector files of the standard icons that come with ubuntu?
[11:46] <sscott> HI
[11:46] <sscott> everything is great, suspend/hibernate work now
[11:46] <sscott> but my power button doesn't bring up a menu
[11:47] <stdin> arun: kubuntu uses (mostly) the standard KDE icons, called crystalsvg. You can ask in #kde where these are from, or in #kubuntu-devel . they should point you in the right direction
[11:47] <sscott> my acpi scripts in /etc look okay..
[11:47] <arun> thank you stdin
[11:47] <sscott> same with the events in /etc/acpi
[11:47] <sscott> powebtn.sh looks okay
[11:47] <sscott> :(
[11:48] <sscott> this is the last thing i need to get working :(
[11:49] <dvm> When i use the libmtp functions in glade2 , it shows "undefined reference to `LIBMTP_Get_Connected_Devices'", Is there anything to specify in linker options?
[11:50] <sscott> okay first off you should be able to help me. secondly that is not a kubuntu question
[11:50] <sscott> :P
[11:50] <sscott> can i somehow link _buttonpressed_ to "logoutmenu"
[11:51] <sscott> dvm: do you have libmtp-dev
[11:52] <sscott> prolly need libmtp*
[11:52] <sscott> prolly need libmtp*whatnot
[11:52] <dvm> sscott, ya, i have installed
[11:52] <sscott> brutal
[11:52] <sscott> ;] 
[11:53] <sscott> sounds crashing on me in wine
[11:53] <sscott> on one computer
[11:53] <sscott> power button on this laptop doesn't do anything
[11:53] <sscott> i'm about to switch distros again
[11:53] <sscott> ahahaahah
[12:04] <sscott> what command activates the shutdown menu
[12:13] <RivaeAerya> where do i download additional extensions and viewing profiles for Konqueror?
[12:16] <pag> RivaeAerya, umm... kde-look.org / kde-apps.org  maybe?
[12:17] <RivaeAerya> pag: nope.
[12:17] <RivaeAerya> at least not kde-look
[12:18] <pag> RivaeAerya, yeah.. probably not it, but kde-apps might be the one...
[12:18] <RivaeAerya> pag: noper
[12:18] <RivaeAerya> nope*
[12:18] <pag> RivaeAerya, hmm... could you be more specific on what you're looking for?
[12:20] <RivaeAerya> pag: Viewing profiles, like pre-set profiles for splitted browsing. for example the Midnight Commander profile etc etc.
[12:20] <RivaeAerya> Konqueror -> Settings -> Profiles
[12:23] <pag> hmm... I don't know where to get them, but they're quite easy to add / customise manually
[12:27] <RivaeAerya> true
[12:30] <losinme> my power button doesn't do anything anymore
[12:30] <losinme> how do i get it to bring the logout/shutdown menu
[12:33] <crazy_bus> a program in fullscreen crashed and now the resolution is suddley huge and I have to pan across the screen with my mouse.  Is there anyway to fix this problem without restarting since I'm currently downloading a file that can't be resumed
[12:33] <pag> crazy_bus, ctrl+alt+"+" or ctrl+alt+"-"  might work...
[12:37] <fotoflo> hey, i got a question, every time KDE starts up, it runs a bunch of programs... how do i configure the startup process?
[12:40] <crazy_bus> I tried ctrl+alt+ + that but unfortunalty but unfortunatly it froze the computer
[12:41] <pag> crazy_bus, sorry to hear that :(
[12:41] <losinme> crazy_bus:  you running nvidia
[12:42] <losinme> crazy_bus: alt-f2  nvidia-settings
[12:43] <crazy_bus> Is ctrl+alt+f7 the correct way to get back to gui mode after using ctrl+alt+f1 to get to the terminal to kill a frozen process
[12:44] <fotoflo> hey, im running kubuntu and every time i start kde, a certain group of processes start - how do i configure this?
[12:45] <arunkale> fotoflo
[12:45] <arunkale> go to system settings
[12:46] <losinme> crazy_bus:  if it works, yep
[12:46] <arunkale> system settings > advanced tab > services
[12:46] <arunkale> sorry service manager
[12:46] <fotoflo> arunkale, ok, i am there already
[12:46] <fotoflo> but there is some stuff happening thats not going on there
[12:47] <arunkale> like what
[12:47] <fotoflo> kde is starting konversation, 2 konsole's and firefox
[12:47] <fotoflo> do i need dbus?
[12:47] <fotoflo> what does dbus do?
[12:48] <losinme> my powerbutton isn't showing up as a key. it's keyboard identifier is 222
[12:48] <losinme> how can i link keyboard id # 222 to a key
[12:48] <losinme> or specifically to the shutdown/logout menu
[12:48] <arunkale> fotoflo: were those windows open the lsat time you shut down?
[12:48] <fotoflo> no
[12:48] <fotoflo> even if they were, i dont want them open next time i restart
[12:50] <arunkale> fotoflo: go to system settings > advanced > session manager
[12:50] <arunkale> in the 'on login' section, choose the appropriate setting you want
[12:51] <fotoflo> in the kde control center?
[12:51] <adrian_> hi
[12:51] <arunkale> fotoflo: system settings > advanced tab > session manager
[12:52] <fotoflo> ahh
[12:52] <adrian_> any1 had any luck running berylwith ATI drivers?
[12:52] <fotoflo> arunkale, cool thanks!
[12:53] <arunkale> fotoflo: anytime
[12:53] <fotoflo> rebooting
[12:54] <adrian_> can some1help me out a bit with beryl?
[12:55] <arunkale> adrian_: i just installed it w/ nvidia yesterday
[12:55] <adrian_> i got ATI
[12:55] <SlimeyPete> I'm running it with ATI
[12:55] <SlimeyPete> had to replace the X server.
[12:56] <adrian_> i installed  XGL created XGL session and whenever i run beryl-manager screen just goes black and all i  see is mouse pointer
[12:56] <SlimeyPete> you're using the fglrx drivers, yes?
[12:56] <adrian_> yes
[12:56] <arunkale> adrian_: check this out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beryl/ATI/Feisty?highlight=%28beryl%29
[12:56] <adrian_> ok
[12:57] <arunkale> that should do it
[12:57] <fotoflo> so...
[12:58] <adrian_> see i followed those.
[12:58] <fotoflo> http://pastebin.com/m3367a73    <  my ps aux after a fresh reboot
[12:58] <adrian_> it seems everything is working except that the screen is all black
[12:58] <fotoflo> its about a mile long... why?
[12:59] <fotoflo> after a fresh reboot i am using 497000k ram
[12:59] <SlimeyPete> that's a bit nuts
[12:59] <fotoflo> yeah
[12:59] <fotoflo> how can i fix that?
[12:59] <fotoflo> im not really running any software either
[01:00] <stdin> fotoflo: how much is cached?
[01:00] <fotoflo> Mem:    767552k total,   496852k used,   270700k free,    14692k buffers
[01:00] <fotoflo> Swap:  1614492k total,        0k used,  1614492k free,   267640k cached
[01:00] <stdin> fotoflo: and 101 processes isn't much, I have 135 atm
[01:00] <fotoflo> atm?
[01:01] <stdin> At The Moment
[01:01] <kuukkeli> how to make C: and D: ?
[01:01] <kuukkeli> need those for Wine
[01:01] <stdin> kuukkeli: this isn't windoes
[01:01] <fotoflo> stdin: are you doing anything right now? cause im not
[01:01] <kuukkeli> stdin, i know. :D
[01:01] <SlimeyPete> kuukkeli: your C drive is in ~/.wine/drie_c
[01:01] <SlimeyPete> *drive
[01:01] <SlimeyPete> it's just a folder
[01:01] <kuukkeli> stdin, could you help me how to install wine properly?
[01:01] <fotoflo> stdin: ive got xirc, console and firefox open, thats it
[01:01] <SlimeyPete> which Wine pretends is drive C
[01:02] <stdin> kuukkeli:  run winecfg to set up wine
[01:02] <kuukkeli> stdin, and that's in wine folder where i extracted it?
[01:02] <stdin> kuukkeli: No! don't compile wine, install the package
[01:02] <kuukkeli> X_x
[01:02] <SlimeyPete> why did you extract it? Wine is available via Adept or apt-get.
[01:03] <stdin> fotoflo: I have a few apps running, but ~100 is normal for these days
[01:03] <kuukkeli> well, i used the pack manager to DL it
[01:03] <kuukkeli> ;p
[01:03] <kuukkeli> it's installed
[01:03] <stdin> !wine
[01:03] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:03] <SlimeyPete> kuukkeli: ok. So go to a terminal and type winecfg
[01:03] <fotoflo> stdin: so i shouldnt worry about it?
[01:04] <fotoflo> why am i running kblluetoothd
[01:04] <fotoflo> arg
[01:04] <stdin> fotoflo: no, it all looks like normal stuff in your ps output
[01:04] <stdin> fotoflo: because it's installed by default
[01:05] <fotoflo> k
[01:05] <fotoflo> ill kill bluetoothd, but most of the stuff is ok?
[01:05] <kuukkeli> Slimeypete, can i just use run command? =D
[01:06] <nathan> hi people
[01:06] <stdin> fotoflo: yeah, if you want to get more advanced, you can look in System Settings -> System Services (and Service Manager) to set what starts and what doesn't
[01:07] <fotoflo> doing that right now
[01:07] <fotoflo> what file does that program edit?
[01:07] <SlimeyPete> kuukkeli: yes
[01:07] <NickPresta> You may also want to install BUM (Boot Up Manager) and disable specific things from starting up (I like BUM more than System Services in KControl)
[01:07] <kuukkeli> stdin, okay, i've done the configuration
[01:07] <kuukkeli> what now?
[01:07] <stdin> fotoflo: several, mostly links in /etc/rc?.d/
[01:08] <stdin> kuukkeli: start a windows application and see if it works, like winebrowser for a test
[01:08] <kuukkeli> stdin, the command is wine winebrowser.exe?
[01:08] <stdin> fotoflo: but be careful in there, if you don't know what it is, don't disable it
[01:08] <wepiha> how can I get stereo input from my line-in or mic?
[01:08] <stdin> kuukkeli: no, just winebrowser
[01:09] <kuukkeli> i just type winebrowser
[01:09] <nathan> Ok, is  anyone good with DVD or TV cards?
[01:09] <kuukkeli> okay?
[01:09] <stdin> kuukkeli: yeah
[01:09] <fotoflo> k
[01:09] <kuukkeli> okay...
[01:09] <kuukkeli> nothing happened
[01:09] <kuukkeli> :D
[01:09] <kuukkeli> shall i check more the winecfg? =)
[01:10] <stdin> kuukkeli: heh, 'winefile' not 'winebrowser', I haven't used wine in a while
[01:10] <kuukkeli> oh. :o
[01:11] <kuukkeli> okay, it opened
[01:11] <kuukkeli> what next? XD
[01:11] <kuukkeli> help the noob to upgrade to novice (will take a while as usual)
[01:11] <stdin> kuukkeli: if that works then you can try running a windows application, with: wine WinApp.exe
[01:11] <stdin> kuukkeli: where WinApp.exe is a real exe file
[01:11] <nathan> is  anyone good with DVD or TV cards?
[01:12] <kuukkeli> stdin, so i download some .exe and launch it?
[01:12] <kuukkeli> and if it works then i'm off to go?
[01:12] <stdin> kuukkeli: yeah, but some will work and some won't
[01:12] <kuukkeli> =P
[01:12] <stdin> kuukkeli: it's a bit hit and miss with wine
[01:12] <kuukkeli> i'll start by trying steam. =D
[01:13] <fotoflo> whats atd?
[01:14] <fotoflo> err nevermind
[01:14] <fotoflo> thanks man atd
[01:15] <kuukkeli> stdin, works. :P
[01:15] <kuukkeli> tried wih foobar ;D
[01:15] <nathan> hello there nosred
[01:16] <_Shade_> hi there
[01:16] <_Shade_> does anyone know any good c64 emulator for ubuntu?
[01:17] <nosrednaekim> hello nathan
[01:17] <nosrednaekim> nathan: you the RC guy?
[01:17] <nathan> nos how i register so i can PM you? yeah I am
[01:17] <pag> !register | nathan
[01:17] <ubotu> nathan: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[01:17] <nathan> ty pag
[01:17] <nosrednaekim> nathan: any luck with any RC sims in Linux?
[01:17] <nosrednaekim> I tryedFMS, that doesn't work.
[01:18] <nathan> quite honestly I still dont have DVD and tv card working properly yet... llo
[01:18] <nathan> I left it for a while, I've came back on today to give it another shot
[01:19] <nosrednaekim> ah.... ok
[01:19] <nathan> 1 min
[01:19] <nosrednaekim> nathan: ok, so you can'tplay DVD's....do you have libdvdcss2?
[01:19] <fotoflo> is there a good OSS video editor that can put subtitles and write output files in premier or FCP format?
[01:21] <webbhost> think iv registered it.. but its diferent name now, im nathan
[01:21] <webbhost> nosred can ya goto pvt chat?
[01:22] <nosrednaekim> fotoflo: kino maybe?
[01:22] <nosrednaekim> IDK,never looked
[01:24] <fotoflo> nosrednaekim, ill check it out, thanks
[01:25] <nosrednaekim> ok
[01:32] <wepiha_> sound issue: line-input is not working, I have checked volume, muting,  and record source but still no sound...
[01:33] <wepiha_> I created the file /etc/modules.d/sound   and added the line    options snd_ymfpci rear_switch=(bool)0|1 with no success
[01:33] <nosrednaekim> how about line-in boost?
[01:34] <wepiha_> there is an option for mic boost but that works only for the mic
[01:34] <nosrednaekim> webbhost: ah.
[01:34] <Lucifer>    ??? ))
[01:34] <wepiha_> I have tried most of the switches available in kmix, including adjusting every input/output
[01:35] <nosrednaekim> I've never done recording by line-in, I just do MIC-in
[01:35] <nosrednaekim> wepiha_: make sure you have all the channels being deisplayed, right click on kmix-> channels
[01:35] <wepiha_> 17 output options, 18 input options and 13 switches
[01:36] <wepiha_> I have toggled, unmuted, remuted, set record sources and tried almost many combinations in the switches area
[01:36] <nosrednaekim> whew!
[01:36] <wepiha_> *almost ALL
[01:36] <nosrednaekim> one thing I have found is that a channel isn't always named sorrectly.
[01:36] <nosrednaekim> *correctly
[01:37] <stdin> !ru | Lucifer
[01:37] <ubotu> Lucifer:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[01:37] <Lucifer> spsb!!!
[01:37] <wepiha_> indeed, as above I have tried FM legacy, Line, CD, Mic, Video, Phone, IEC985x2, Aux, Capture, ADCx2, Digitalx2
[01:37] <wepiha_> and the various 3d controls
[01:38] <wepiha_> my best guess is that it is assuming surround sound (5.1 maybe) and using the line-input as the rear surround speakers
[01:38] <wepiha_> however the module option did not appear to fix anything
[01:39] <nosrednaekim> 1dvd
[01:39] <wepiha_> root@pointfivezero:~# modinfo snd_ymfpci
[01:39] <nosrednaekim> !dvd
[01:39] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[01:39] <wepiha_> filename:       /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/sound/pci/ymfpci/snd-ymfpci.ko
[01:39] <wepiha_> license:        GPL
[01:39] <wepiha_> description:    Yamaha DS-1 PCI
[01:39] <wepiha_> author:         Jaroslav Kysela <perex@suse.cz>
[01:39] <wepiha_> srcversion:     48E659DB7AAB2E2A7936205
[01:39] <wepiha_> alias:          pci:v00001073d00000012sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
[01:39] <wepiha_> alias:          pci:v00001073d00000010sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
[01:39] <stdin> !paste | wepiha_
[01:39] <ubotu> wepiha_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:39] <wepiha_> alias:          pci:v00001073d0000000Csv*sd*bc*sc*i*
[01:39] <wepiha_> alias:          pci:v00001073d0000000Asv*sd*bc*sc*i*
[01:40] <wepiha_> alias:          pci:v00001073d0000000Dsv*sd*bc*sc*i*
[01:40] <wepiha_> alias:          pci:v00001073d00000004sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
[01:40] <wepiha_> depends:        snd-pcm,snd-page-alloc,snd-opl3-lib,snd-mpu401-uart,snd,snd-timer,gameport,snd-ac97-codec
[01:40] <wepiha_> vermagic:       2.6.20-16-generic SMP mod_unload
[01:40] <wepiha_> parm:           index:Index value for the Yamaha DS-1 PCI soundcard. (array of int)
[01:40] <wepiha_> parm:           id:ID string for the Yamaha DS-1 PCI soundcard. (array of charp)
[01:40] <wepiha_> parm:           enable:Enable Yamaha DS-1 soundcard. (array of bool)
[01:40] <wepiha_> parm:           mpu_port:MPU-401 Port. (array of long)
[01:40] <wepiha_> parm:           fm_port:FM OPL-3 Port. (array of long)
[01:40] <wepiha_> parm:           joystick_port:Joystick port address (array of long)
[01:40] <wepiha_> parm:           rear_switch:Enable shared rear/line-in switch (array of bool)
[01:40] <wepiha_> *** SORRY! ***
[01:40] <wepiha_> noted :)
[01:46] <Lucifer>    ???
[01:49] <snowdonkey> Hi.  How do I type accented characters?
[01:50] <kuukkeli> how to make ventrilo work properly?
[01:50] <kuukkeli> dont got codecs to talk. :|
[01:51] <solid_liq> hey, check this out:  http://freshmeat.net/projects/konsoledcopscheme/
[01:52] <wepiha> where can I find log files for modprobe ?
[01:52] <wepiha> or log files for update-modules?
[01:52] <nosrednaekim> in /var/log/messages
[01:52] <stdin> solid_liq: stop spamming the channel
[01:53] <Lucifer> !!!!!!
[01:54] <Lucifer> !!!
[01:54] <Lucifer> sos
[01:54] <Lucifer> sos
[01:54] <Lucifer> sos
[01:54] <Lucifer> sos
[01:54] <Lucifer> sos
[01:54] <stdin> !ru
[01:54] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[01:54] <kuukkeli> :|
[01:54] <Lucifer>    !!!
[01:54] <kuukkeli> ENGLISH PLEASE
[01:55] <Lucifer> who change
[01:57] <Lynoure> Lucifer: just ask your question.
[01:57] <wepiha> is it possible to enable stereo input from mic?
[01:57] <stdin> mics are mono by nature
[01:58] <wepiha> surer
[01:58] <wepiha> hmm if only line-input would work :(
[01:59] <wepiha> <-- going to prove its operation windows xp :(
[02:01] <rodrigo_> someone knows a better server in Brazil after Brasnet?
[02:02] <D-O-C> cool
[02:02] <D-O-C> und was gibts hier so ???
[02:03] <D-O-C> cu
[02:03] <NastX> hi
[02:07] <NastX> i need your help with the nvidia driver and glx in kubuntu
[02:08] <NastX> ...
[02:12] <chips> hey anyone from nz here?
[02:17] <danya> hello
[02:18] <arunkale> hey danya
[02:18] <danya> umm I got a problem when updating ,. I got the update icon adn when I run it i get this :software index is broken
[02:18] <danya> I run install -f and also got a problem
[02:21] <arunkale> dayna: looking into your problem
[02:22] <arunkale> hold on
[02:22] <arunkale> what were you trying to update
[02:22] <arunkale> just the regular software updates?
[02:23] <danya> yea
[02:23] <danya> since I can't install anything untill I get the updates
[02:23] <stefan_feilmeier> Hello. I'm running a Ubuntu Feisy server with kernel linux-image-2.6.20-16-server but I cannot find a restricted-modules package for it.
[02:24] <stefan_feilmeier> Is it possible that there are no restricted-modules available for the server kernels?
[02:25] <AmyRose> stefan_feilmeier: I'll look and see for you
[02:25] <arunkale> danya: can you paste what you get when you install -f
[02:25] <stefan_feilmeier> thanks... :)
[02:25] <arunkale> dayna: paste it at http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:25] <stdin> stefan_feilmeier: yeah, only for -generic -386 and -lolatency
[02:25] <stdin> *-lowlatency
[02:25] <AmyRose> ok, never mind
[02:26] <stefan_feilmeier> so what can i do? Either install a generic kernel or build the needed module myself?!
[02:26] <AmyRose> stefan_feilmeier: What module do you need?
[02:26] <arunkale> dayna: you there?
[02:26] <danya> arunkale .. It's installing now lol
[02:26] <arunkale> started working?
[02:27] <stefan_feilmeier> fcpci for my Fritz!Card
[02:27] <danya> arunkale : yea where it stopped .. I think a connection time out or something
[02:27] <arunkale> ah ok
[02:27] <arunkale> great
[02:27] <danya> arunkale : thank u :)
[02:28] <arunkale> no problem
[02:28] <stdin> stefan_feilmeier: if you compile the module yourself then you'll need to recompile it for every kernel update too. So it's up to you to if you want to install the -generic one or not
[02:29] <stefan_feilmeier> AmyRose: yes i know, that i would have to recompile all the time. Isn't it a bug that there is no restricted modules package for kernels? Shall i file a bug in Launchpad?
[02:30] <stdin> stefan_feilmeier: it may or may not be a bug, you can ask on answers.launchpad.net or in the #ubuntu-kernel channel
[02:31] <stefan_feilmeier> AmyRose: ok, i'll do that. Thanks a lot!
[02:31] <AmyRose> stefan_feilmeier: It was stdin who helped you
[02:31] <AmyRose> stefan_feilmeier: You might also want to try out module-assistant though
[02:32] <stefan_feilmeier> oh... ;)
[02:32] <AmyRose> I use it to build my TI calculator link cable drivers and the GSPCA webcam driver :)
[02:32] <stefan_feilmeier> Sorry, still not really comfortable with IRC
[02:32] <AmyRose> stefan_feilmeier: Stick around. It's fun :)
[02:32] <stefan_feilmeier> i haven't found fcpci in m-a
[02:32] <AmyRose> ok
[02:33] <stefan_feilmeier> AmyRose: You connected your TI-calculator to your linux box?! ;)
[02:35] <AmyRose> stefan_feilmeier: Yup. :)
[02:35] <AmyRose> It's the only way to get the games I need for math class on it :P
[02:35] <AmyRose> since I do not have Windows=
[02:36] <AmyRose> TiLP is nice :D
[02:36] <stefan_feilmeier> AmyRose: I guess i should have a look...
[02:36] <stefan_feilmeier> AmyRose: (un)fortunately I'm out of school... :)
[02:37] <AmyRose> stefan_feilmeier: Well, I'm going to be a teacher, so it is kinda important to me.
[02:37] <AmyRose> Yeah, a Linux user who is not going into IT or CS! =O
[02:38] <stefan_feilmeier> AmyRose: oh, so you're gonna be a math's teacher? Same as my sister...
[02:38] <kuukkeli> how to get microphone working? =D (Need GSM codecs and such for ventrilo. ;D )
[02:38] <AmyRose> stefan_feilmeier: Actually a special ed teacher.
[02:39] <AmyRose> You have to be good with multiple subjects to be one of those ;)
[02:39] <stefan_feilmeier> AmyRose: ok i see. BTW: I'm in IT of course
[02:40] <AmyRose> hahaha
[02:40] <AmyRose> I *was* in IT, but I hated it.
[02:40] <AmyRose> Too much Windows.
[02:41] <stefan_feilmeier> Actually I just came home one week ago from a half year long internship in a free software company in bangalore, india
[02:41] <AmyRose> 99% of what I do on my computer is non-geeky stuff though, and I find Linux to be easier to use than Windows for most things, to be honest.
[02:41] <kuukkeli> AmyRose, windows is easy. :D and there is no job what you love
[02:41] <kuukkeli> expect scripting job if you love to make scripts
[02:42] <AmyRose> kuukkeli: Not really. On Linux, I do not have to use antivirus, no defragging, fsck only occasionally, don't need anti-spyware, don't need to worry about untrustworthy crap...
[02:42] <kuukkeli> AmyRose, true. :P
[02:42] <AmyRose> and I really have fallen in love with the "run unprivileged" security model in Linux
[02:42] <kuukkeli> but to make all shit work is bit frustrating, after you get it work, then it's again Partytime :D
[02:43] <kuukkeli> 1 thing i hate
[02:43] <kuukkeli> usually asks password for everything what i do ;P
[02:43] <kuukkeli> like adept manager
[02:43] <kuukkeli> x_x
[02:43] <AmyRose> Seriously, when trying to fix my mom's PC, I wanted so badly to just install Kubuntu on it
[02:44] <kuukkeli> xD
[02:44] <kuukkeli> but then your mom is like "wut is tiz?!"
[02:44] <AmyRose> kuukkeli: Would you rather have it make you cancel or allow everything you do?
[02:44] <stefan_feilmeier> I'm always annoyed when I boot up my mom's PC. Everytime i start it I have to update firewall, antivirus, java, firefox,...
[02:44] <germanjew> how do i register again?
[02:44] <kuukkeli> AmyRose, allow, yes, cancel, no!
[02:45] <AmyRose> kuukkeli: If the password dialog pops up and I did not do anything that should cause it, I know I can safely cancel
[02:45] <AmyRose> kuukkeli: It does not prompt nearly as much as Vista does
[02:45] <AmyRose> I heard Vista heckles you out of deleting your personal files even
[02:46] <AmyRose> stefan_feilmeier: I pretend to be ignorant when my family asks about Windows problems. Actually, for the most part, I really don't have an answer since I haven't used Windows in almost 3 years
[02:47] <germanjew> what is the command to register?
[02:47] <stefan_feilmeier> AmyRose: I wished I could do the same but as I am the "sysop" in my parents company... :(
[02:48] <AmyRose> stefan_feilmeier: The only thing I am tech support for is the Internet because I am the keeper of the router passwords and keys ;)
[02:48] <AmyRose> and we have a WRT54G v3.0 that runs DD-WRT
[02:49] <AmyRose> stefan_feilmeier: Being tech support for that is not a big deal since it's just a Linux box :D
[02:49] <stefan_feilmeier> stefan_feilmeier: lucky you.
[02:49] <AmyRose> stefan_feilmeier: Do you like to talk to yourself?
[02:50] <stefan_feilmeier> AmyRose: oh... ehm... sometimes. But this one was by accident
[02:50] <AmyRose> hahaha
[02:50] <AmyRose> stefan_feilmeier: The only thing I help with on my mom's computer is total reinstallations... Everything else she handles.
[02:51] <stefan_feilmeier> AmyRose: Problem is my mom doesn't know anything about computers. I really want to install ubuntu on her machine.
[02:51] <AmyRose> And the only reason is that my stepdad unplugs the router, voip box, and cable modem when it's not working because he thinks it's going to blow up
[02:51] <AmyRose> (I'm not joking...)
[02:52] <AmyRose> He did that twice in the last month and it's not a trivial task to plug it all back in correctly
[02:52] <stefan_feilmeier> AmyRose: hehe... these things seem to happen everywhere
[02:52] <buz> glue together the rj45 cables
[02:52] <AmyRose> stefan_feilmeier: That is why I do not want to go into IT
[02:52] <AmyRose> buz: That might work...
[02:52] <buz> really, superglue helps against the dumbest of users
[02:52] <stefan_feilmeier> AmyRose: I wouldn't want to be a support guy either
[02:52] <AmyRose> hahaha
[02:53] <AmyRose> I don't mind helping Linux users out
[02:53] <buz> yeah they are friendly
[02:53] <buz> and generally eager to learn
[02:53] <AmyRose> Linux is a relatively easy OS to fix too
[02:53] <buz> not always ;)
[02:53] <stefan_feilmeier> buz: At least you have access to all log files and everything
[02:53] <AmyRose> buz: It's not like Windows where 80% of the time the answer is to start over.
[02:54] <buz> thats true
[02:54] <SlimeyPete> o/~ every OS waits your time, from the desktop to the lap... everything since the abacus is such a load of c***
[02:54] <SlimeyPete> ^^ true
[02:54] <stefan_feilmeier> AmyRose: hmm... if you read howtos nowadays you'll find "reboot" quite often
[02:54] <AmyRose> SlimeyPete: Huh?
[02:54] <SlimeyPete> AmyRose: it's a lyric. I'm bored, and  thought it was vaguely pertinent to the convation ;)
[02:54] <AmyRose> stefan_feilmeier: My Windows friends are often surprised that my uptime is often measured in weeks
[02:54] <SlimeyPete> erm, conversation
[02:55] <AmyRose> SlimeyPete: Konversation*
[02:55] <AmyRose> =P
[02:55] <SlimeyPete> don't swear ;p
[02:55] <buz> heck even on windows my uptime was measured in weeks
[02:55] <AmyRose> buz: My friends normally have to reboot on a daily basis
[02:55] <buz> in the hands of someone with a clue, win is ok
[02:55] <buz> but the whole gui irrates me the longer, the more
[02:56] <stefan_feilmeier> AmyRose: So thanks to a missing restricted modules package for servers and therefor installing a generic kernel I have to restart my router now...
[02:56] <AmyRose> stefan_feilmeier: Sorry :(
[02:56] <stefan_feilmeier> AmyRose: not your fault
[02:56] <AmyRose> buz: The biggest problem I have with Windows is that I cannot trust Microsoft
[02:56] <stefan_feilmeier> AmyRose: just wanted to say that I have to go offline... ;)
[02:56] <runlevelten> I always laugh when people claim lengthy uptime on windows machines.
[02:56] <AmyRose> ok
[02:56] <ksivaji> hi guys
[02:57] <buz> (i would get a thinkpad if they came with international warranty, but alas, they dont)
[02:57] <AmyRose> runlevelten: Don't some versions of Windows have epoch and timer wraparound problems?
[02:57] <buz> AmyRose: win98 yes
[02:57] <runlevelten> They are either lying or not applying updates, haha.
[02:57] <buz> 2K doesnt, for all i know
[02:57] <AmyRose> ok
[02:58] <AmyRose> But you're not supposed to know, buz. It's illegal to know. >:)
[02:58] <vzduch> ?
[02:58] <vzduch> wth are you talking about? o0
[02:58] <AmyRose> Windows XP's EULA was what prompted me to change OSes
[02:59] <buz> EULA basically arent valid in most places of the world
[03:00] <AmyRose> buz: But the thing that scares me is that the things the EULA makes you agree to would require Microsoft to have more power than the police and FBI. And I can't trust an OS that's supposed to let Microsoft spy on you.
[03:00] <runlevelten> Of course they're not, but the fact they try that makes it bad enough.
[03:00] <buz> well given the choice, i dont use windows
[03:00] <buz> but i dont always have the choice
[03:00] <AmyRose> I never use Windows on my own equipment, and I take my laptop with me whenever possible.
[03:01] <buz> (technically my boss wouldnt mind if i installed linux on the work laptop, someone already did, but interfacing with the network would be kinda painful)
[03:01] <buz> AmyRose: i usually have work laptop and personal laptop side by side at work
[03:01] <AmyRose> Well, that's kinda the reason I do not want to go into IT.
[03:01] <buz> but then again, i work at my uni so there's kinda special rules anyhow
[03:01] <AmyRose> or CS
[03:02] <buz> CS has nothing at all to do with windows
[03:02] <AmyRose> Well, I suck at programming.
[03:02] <AmyRose> How's that for a reason? :P
[03:03] <webbhost> anyone know what i put into console to find out what tv card I have
[03:03] <vzduch> lspci
[03:03] <AmyRose> webbhost: If you need more info, you can do lspci -vvvv :D
[03:04] <buz> truth to be told, i didnt like what CS was about, not at all
[03:04] <buz> if you got any other interests that could make a career, it's probably better not to go into it
[03:04] <buz> most it guys i know are electronic janitors more than anything else
[03:04] <buz> boy i have bad lag
[03:04] <webbhost> its ok i got what i was after
[03:05] <danya_> have anyone here installed ubuntustudio ?
[03:05] <webbhost> Philips Semiconductors SAA7133/SAA7135 Video Broadcaster - I got that and it displays TV in tv-time but theres no sound, I haven't tried installing proper drivers cause i dont know where to get them from... can anyone help?
[03:06] <webbhost> ty vzduch and amyrose btw
[03:07] <AmyRose> webbhost: You're welcome
[03:07] <vzduch> danya_: yes, why?
[03:14] <danya_> vzduch : can't I just add the repos to ubuntu .. ?
[03:15] <vzduch> there's no repos to add, it's all in the repos you already have
[03:16] <danya_> vzduch : so to get it I have to download and burn dvd ?
[03:16] <ksivaji>  !source-o-matic
[03:16] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:17] <ksivaji> danya_ vzduch
[03:18] <vzduch> danya_: sudo aptitude install ubuntustudio-{addYourFavouriteFlavourHere} <-- for a list see aptitude search ubuntustudio
[03:18] <vzduch> ksivaji: don't throw factoids in the room if you don't know what the talk is about ;)
[03:27] <eduardo> nice environment to talk
[03:27] <eduardo> I'm really becoming a Ubuntu fan.
[03:27] <SlimeyPete> :)
[03:27] <eduardo> Just installed some unbelievable packages
[03:28] <eduardo> the desktop is amazing
[03:28] <eduardo> the editors are beautiful
[03:28] <eduardo> Ubuntu rules
[03:29] <tzanger> I'm still trying to figure out how Kubuntu-ified kontact cna be configured to leave my cursor at the TOP of the email when I reply -- I edit the quoted email to trim and it's a royal pain in the ass to go tothe top all the time
[03:31] <runlevelten> arg... the default ffmpeg has no proper amr support
[03:32] <BluesKaj> Morning All :)
[03:33] <vzduch> tzanger: you're not supposed to reply at the top of an email even though it's customary in today's business life
[03:34] <tzanger> vzduch: oh I NEVER top post
[03:34] <tzanger> as I said, I have the quoted text, and I trim the crap out of it, replying to each trimmed section
[03:34] <tzanger> I am a STRONG proponent of properly trimmed and quoted emails
[03:34] <kuukkeli> how do i get cedega work? =P
[03:34] <vzduch> ah.. but what's the pain of going to the top? it's the press of 2 keys
[03:35] <tzanger> vzduch: for the volume of email I work with, it's a pain in the ass
[03:35] <tzanger> Kontact/Kmail used to have the option
[03:35] <tzanger> maybe it's still there, just not brought out into the GUI configuration
[03:35] <tzanger> I'll ask on #kde
[03:38] <vzduch> I don't find it either
[03:47] <kuukkeli> How to open .deb files?
[03:47] <kuukkeli> is it dpkg if it is, then guide me a bit
[03:47] <t2> you install them with the package manager
[03:47] <vzduch> read 'man dpkg' :)
[03:47] <kuukkeli> t2, oh.
[03:48] <kuukkeli> Thanks. =)
[03:48] <t2> i think you can do dpkg -i ".deb name" to install
[03:49] <kuukkeli> t2, so i dont put .deb on the end?
[03:49] <t2> you do yes
[03:49] <kuukkeli> and do i have to put sudo on start?
[03:49] <t2> yes
[03:49] <kuukkeli> :P
[03:49] <kuukkeli> sudo get me a sandwhich
[03:49] <t2> but first make sure you have all required dependecies
[03:49] <pag> kuukkeli, either right-click on file and choose to install or command " sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb "
[03:50] <kuukkeli> pag,i'll try the easy way first XD
[03:51] <pag> and you can take care of depencies afterwards by typing " sudo apt-get install -f "
[04:01] <tiola> join #caratinga
[04:02] <snipex> when im on specific site(http://www.avast.com/eng/avast-for-linux-workstation.html and some others) i see squares with letters in them on the page, whys that, i use konqueror and i got gnome and kde desktops, im using kde now
[04:02] <snipex> sites*
[04:03] <snipex> anyone knows solution to that ?
[04:05] <snipex> oh
[04:05] <snipex> its solved by pressing ctrl again
[04:05] <snipex> lol
[04:09] <AmyRose> snipex: That's Konqueror's AccessKey feature
[04:10] <AmyRose> snipex: There is a way to turn it off
[04:10] <snipex> how ?
[04:10] <snipex> what is this acesskey ???
[04:11] <snipex> accesskey*
[04:11] <snipex> how do i disable it ?
[04:11] <AmyRose> snipex: Let me look it up, OK?
[04:11] <snipex> ok
[04:12] <AmyRose> snipex: ok, paste the following command into the Run dialog and hit OK: kwriteconfig --file khtmlrc --group "Access Keys" --key Enabled --type bool false
[04:12] <snipex> did
[04:12] <AmyRose> Once you do that, start Konqueror again and they should be turned off
[04:13] <snipex> yep
[04:13] <snipex> works
[04:13] <snipex> ty very much
[04:13] <AmyRose> :D
[04:13] <AmyRose> I use Konqueror as my browser and so, yeah...
[04:13] <AmyRose> :D
[04:13] <snipex> i useD firefox
[04:13] <AmyRose> snipex: Other hidden settings are available here: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Hidden%20configuration
[04:13] <AmyRose> Bookmark that page :D
[04:13] <snipex> i got both kde and gnome but i used FF in win
[04:14] <AmyRose> snipex: I prefer Konqueror because it's a lot faster than Firefox
[04:14] <snipex> yes
[04:14] <snipex> there is a way to speed up FF
[04:15] <snipex> i tried it but then i remembered im using konqueror
[04:15] <AmyRose> hehehe
[04:15] <AmyRose> I like Konqueror's built-in adblocker
[04:15] <snipex> hm
[04:15] <AmyRose> Oh, another browser I recommend trying, if you don't mind closed-source software, is Opera
[04:15] <snipex> i dont mind closed software
[04:15] <AmyRose> It's also lightning-fast but with better javascript support
[04:16] <snipex> but i think i get some ads in konqueror
[04:16] <snipex> but it might be FF not konqueror
[04:16] <AmyRose> Well, Konqueror has an adblocker included, but you need to load a filterset
[04:16] <snipex> but
[04:17] <snipex> dont u think FF is more... hm.... stable
[04:17] <AmyRose> Actually, Opera went from being adware to including an adblocker :P
[04:17] <snipex> i mean
[04:17] <snipex> try going to www.armorgames.com
[04:17] <snipex> and try playing 1 game
[04:17] <snipex> and makin few other tabs
[04:18] <snipex> Opera was adware ?
[04:18] <AmyRose> I often have over 20 tabs open
[04:18] <snipex> hm
[04:18] <AmyRose> yeah, Opera used to show ads unless you paid for it
[04:18] <snipex> well
[04:18] <snipex> i got just 512 mb ram so
[04:18] <AmyRose> Now it's completely free as in beer now, so you don't have to worry about ads.
[04:18] <snipex> that might be reasom
[04:18] <AmyRose> and it now includes a full-fledged adblocker
[04:18] <snipex> reason*
[04:19] <snipex> yo
[04:19] <snipex> what is 'kicker' ?
[04:19] <AmyRose> your panel
[04:19] <AmyRose> the thing at the bottom of the screen if you didn't move it
[04:19] <snipex> K Menu ?
[04:19] <AmyRose> It contains the K menu
[04:19] <snipex> oh
[04:19] <snipex> i get it
[04:19] <AmyRose> Yeah, Kicker is the panel
[04:20] <snipex> why is it called kicker ???
[04:20] <AmyRose> My favorite feature of Opera, besides its adblocker, is the "Create Search" feature. Just right-click in the search box on any site, and click Create Search to add it to your search menu
[04:20] <snipex> what are u using ? opera or konqueror ?
[04:21] <AmyRose> snipex: I don't know why it's called Kicker. I didn't write it
[04:21] <AmyRose> snipex: I switch between the two, and I also use Firefox 3.0a6
[04:21] <AmyRose> In my opinion, Firefox 3.0a6 is better than 2.0 by leaps and bounds
[04:21] <AmyRose> in the areas of stability and speed
[04:21] <snipex> but
[04:21] <snipex> 3.0 and 2.0
[04:22] <snipex> 3.0 is newer
[04:22] <AmyRose> 3.0 is not released yet.
[04:22] <AmyRose> I'm using the 6th alpha test version
[04:22] <snipex> well yes
[04:22] <snipex> so it kinda is released
[04:22] <AmyRose> 2.0 is what Edgy and Feisty have
[04:22] <snipex> i got dapper
[04:22] <AmyRose> Whoa, Dapper?!
[04:22] <snipex> what do u have ?
[04:22] <snipex> yep
[04:22] <AmyRose> My gosh, that's old!
[04:22] <snipex> LTS
[04:23] <AmyRose> I am using Feisty with the latest KDE--3.5.7
[04:23] <snipex> but its LTS
[04:23] <AmyRose> Well, that doesn't matter. Linux development is FAST.
[04:24] <snipex> well
[04:24] <snipex> if im honest
[04:24] <AmyRose> Konqueror in KDE 3.5.7 is a lot better than the one in Dapper
[04:24] <snipex> ubuntu is my first distribution
[04:24] <snipex> when i selected it i didnt know exactly what all that means
[04:24] <AmyRose> I typically recommend to newcomers to use Feisty
[04:24] <snipex> and i chose LTS
[04:25] <snipex> im usin dapper for a while now
[04:25] <AmyRose> well, if you're happy with it, there's nothing wrong with that...
[04:25] <snipex> well
[04:25] <snipex> i am happy
[04:25] <AmyRose> I don't mind upgrading every 6 months
[04:25] <snipex> because i dont know whats feisty like
[04:25] <snipex> hey
[04:25] <AmyRose> actually I upgrade a month early so I can beta test
[04:25] <snipex> look
[04:25] <snipex> i tough when u upgrade u have to reformat hard disk
[04:25] <BluesKaj> AmyRose, what's the setting for konq to open my homwe page rather than a blank ? ...can't seem to find how to set it
[04:25] <pag> snipex, dapper is stable and polished, feisty has all the new and shiny stuff, but it might be a little buggy sometimes :)
[04:26] <AmyRose> snipex: No you don't need to reformat to upgrade.
[04:26] <AmyRose> Some people insist on doing it anyway, but it's not necessary
[04:26] <pag> BluesKaj, just go to the page you want and save the web-profile?
[04:26] <snipex> AmyRose : can i upgrade from dapper to feisty ?
[04:26] <snipex> oh
[04:26] <snipex> i didnt know
[04:26] <AmyRose> snipex: Yes, but I think you have to upgrade to Edgy, then to Feisty.
[04:27] <pag> BluesKaj, I'm not 100% sure on that, but it might work
[04:27] <AmyRose> I don't know if the next LTS release will let you upgrade to it from Dapper
[04:27] <AmyRose> I would hope so
[04:27] <pag> AmyRose, it's *supposed* to allow it
[04:27] <AmyRose> pag: It would suck to have to do like a 6 step upgrade or so :P
[04:28] <snipex> AmyRose : how can i then upgrade to edgy and then feisty ?
[04:28] <snipex> and my programs will be ok ?
[04:28] <pag> AmyRose, indeed :) that's why I also hope, that 'shortcut'-upgrade would be possible
[04:29] <RivaeAerya>  In ktorrent, what should i set the UDP tracker port to? right now its 4444 but the main port is 65312
[04:29] <AmyRose> snipex: They should. I've done both upgrades myself.
[04:29] <AmyRose> no ill effects.
[04:29] <pag> snipex, do you have seperate /home ?
[04:29] <snipex> ???
[04:29] <snipex> what
[04:29] <ubuntu> hey people i need your help!!!! please !!!!!!!!!
[04:29] <ARM7> Okay.
[04:29] <ubuntu> i tried to install windows xp
[04:30] <pag> snipex, have you set /home to mount on a different partition than /
[04:30] <SlimeyPete> !ask | ubuntu
[04:30] <ubotu> ubuntu: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:30] <snipex> dunno
[04:30] <ubuntu> after having already installed kubuntu on a different partition
[04:30] <snipex> how can i check it ???
[04:30] <SlimeyPete> oh... sorry
[04:30] <cerberox> when you install ubuntu and chose guided partition of you hard disk you can't define where is the home
[04:30] <BluesKaj> ok thx pag, that worked :)
[04:30] <cerberox> to check it.. $ sudo fdisk -l
[04:30] <ubuntu> yes.. it is only login in windows
[04:30] <stdin> !grub
[04:30] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:31] <AmyRose> stdin: Where are stdout and stderr?
[04:31] <ubuntu> except if i try from the installation cd
[04:31] <ubuntu> of kubuntu
[04:31] <stdin> ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[04:31] <ubuntu> otherwise i cant even see kubuntu anywhere
[04:31] <ubuntu> what should i do ?????????????
[04:31] <stdin> AmyRose: stdout has gone out and stderr isn't feeling well :p
[04:31] <ubuntu> thank youuuuuuuu !!!!!!!!!
[04:31] <ubuntu> i'll be back in a sec
[04:32] <AmyRose> stdin: ROFL
[04:32] <cerberox> One question for all..
[04:32] <AmyRose> stdin: That was a clever reply :D
[04:32] <snipex> cerberox : $ sudo fdisk -l wont work, do i try sudo fdisk -|
[04:32] <AmyRose> !ask | ceros
[04:32] <RivaeAerya>  In ktorrent, what should i set the UDP tracker port to? right now its 4444 but the main port is 65312
[04:32] <stdin> AmyRose: off the top of my head too, I'm feeling quite proud now :)
[04:32] <ubotu> ceros: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:32] <adam_> I like to play iso's using kaffeine, it works quite well except i have to click open url, type "dvd://[iso filename] " which is quite long. I wanted to make it into a command so i can right click an iso and click play in kaffeine but i can't seem to work out the commdan. kaffeine dvd://%f just gives me errors saying it can't find the file or something even though the error has the correct filename in it?
[04:32] <AmyRose> oops
[04:32] <AmyRose> wrong name
[04:33] <AmyRose> oh no wonder... cerberox left
[04:33] <BluesKaj> ubuntu , another option is to download and burn Supergrub BootDisk Live CD. it can resolve a whole host of Grub and boot problems
[04:34] <snipex> how can i upgrade from dapper to edgy and then feisty ???
[04:35] <stdin> !upgrade
[04:35] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[04:35] <stdin> snipex: that link also tells you how to upgrade dapper -> edgy and edgy -> feisty
[04:35] <snipex> i got dapper, both kde and gnome
[04:36] <BluesKaj> RivaeAerya, are you behind a router ?
[04:36] <stdin> adam_: try  instead of %f
[04:36] <stdin> \ instead of %f
[04:36] <stdin> arg, % U with no space
[04:37] <Yorokobi> hehe, BluesKaj. _Everyone_ is behind a router.
[04:37] <kuukkeli> ubuntu, what was your problem? =P
[04:37] <BluesKaj> not necessarily Yorokobi , some are just using a modem
[04:38] <stdin> kuukkeli: installed kubuntu, then XP and XP overwrote the MBR
[04:38] <Yorokobi> BluesKaj, the modem's default gateway is a router
[04:38] <snipex> stdin, will it upgrade both my ubuntu and kubuntu ?
[04:38] <qlr> hello
[04:38] <snipex> told ya i got ubuntu but i installed kde too
[04:38] <qlr> how do i change my workgroup in kubuntu?
[04:38] <ubuntu> thanky ou i'll try it and come back !!!
[04:38] <ubuntu> thank youuuuuuu
[04:38] <stdin> snipex: yeah, there is no distinction between them as far as updates go
[04:38] <AmyRose> snipex: Yes.
[04:39] <snipex> ok
[04:39] <stdin> qlr: in samba?
[04:39] <snipex> updating...
[04:39] <qlr> stdin: yep in samba
[04:40] <Adam2> stdin: so "kaffeine dvd://\" then?
[04:41] <stdin> qlr: under [global]  put "workgroup = YourWorkgroup"
[04:41] <tzanger> aha
[04:41] <tzanger> I can move the cursor wherever I want now in kmail
[04:41] <stdin> Adam2: no, use % U, but without the space
[04:41] <tzanger> it's done through templates now
[04:41] <bejay> hi! a question: with "dcop kicker kicker popupKMenu 0" i can open kmenu. is there a similar way to access a submenu of kmenu (same effect as add app to panel/add this menu)?
[04:41] <kuukkeli> something's wrong with my OpenGL or it doesnt exist, what should i do?
[04:42] <leandro> hi
[04:43] <leandro> do you know if there is a way to make a script excute as root?
[04:43] <Yorokobi> bejay, open the KMenu, right click on the sub menu and add it to the main panel
[04:43] <stdin> leandro: run it with sudo
[04:43] <leandro> I know
[04:43] <Yorokobi> bejay, nm, I re-read your question. :)
[04:43] <qlr> stdin: where do i find that [global]  thingy? :D
[04:43] <SlimeyPete> leandro: chmod +s <script file name>
[04:44] <Adam2> stdin: i just get "The source can't be read." and dvd:[filename] , is it misstacking the kio for a filename?
[04:44] <SlimeyPete> but that's potentially a bit dangerous
[04:44] <bejay> thx, yorokobi :)
[04:44] <BluesKaj> if you want to split hairs about gateway definions Yorokobi , go ahead..but in ordinary english a router has gateways for several computers and acts as a hardware firewall for theat network...where I come that kind of equipment is called a router ,not a modem
[04:44] <leandro> but I mean if there is an automatic way so I don't have to enter the pwd everytime
[04:44] <stdin> qlr: ahh, sorry, in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[04:44] <RivaeAerya> BluesKaj: ja
[04:44] <RivaeAerya> BluesKaj: yes
[04:44] <leandro> SlimeyPete: does chmod +s asks for my user pwd?
[04:44] <runlevelten> Oh, shut up......
[04:44] <BluesKaj> ok RivaeAerya , can yo access the router port mapping ?
[04:45] <stdin> Adam2: hmm, not sure
[04:45] <SlimeyPete> leandro: nope
[04:45] <RivaeAerya> BluesKaj: yes. And the port I mentioned, the main one, has already been forwarded
[04:45] <SlimeyPete> leandro: chmod +s will set the file suid root
[04:45] <RivaeAerya> BluesKaj: also, i noticed that Deluge (a GNOME bittorrent client) is faster than ktorrent... how come?
[04:45] <SlimeyPete> leandro: from then on, whenever you run the script it'll n as root
[04:45] <qlr> stdin: do i need to reload it or something?
[04:46] <SlimeyPete> leandro: but be aware that it might make your system insecure so don't go using it on a server
[04:46] <stdin> qlr: yeah, sudo /etc/init.d/samba reload
[04:46] <SlimeyPete> leandro: sorry I should have said "sudo chmod +s" btw
[04:46] <leandro> ah ok
[04:46] <leandro> :)
[04:46] <BluesKaj> ok  good do you have Upnp enabled . RivaeAerya?
[04:46] <ARM7> How would I go on about switching to kubuntu from ubuntu the easiest way??
[04:47] <RivaeAerya> BluesKaj: in the router? yes. In ktorrent? no. In deluge? don't know
[04:47] <runlevelten> just install kde
[04:47] <SlimeyPete> use synaptic to install kubuntu-desktop
[04:47] <stdin> ARM7: install kubuntu-desktop from your package manager
[04:47] <ARM7> And I mean like if I reinstalled kubuntu over ubuntu
[04:47] <runlevelten> yep
[04:47] <BluesKaj> check in ktorrent configure -settings
[04:47] <SlimeyPete> runlevelten: that's not a complete solution - it won't install some things eg adept and the slplash screen
[04:47] <RivaeAerya> BluesKaj: yes UpnP is on in ktorrent
[04:47] <RivaeAerya> BluesKaj: but will that improve speed?
[04:47] <stdin> ARM7: that will let you have both kde and gnome installed, if you want to remove ubuntu, you can also try "sudo apt-get autoremove ubuntu-desktop"
[04:48] <leandro> yay, it seems to work :)
[04:48] <runlevelten> SlimeyPete: Yes, I would have given kubuntu-desktop as the package with which to do it =)
[04:48] <SlimeyPete> runlevelten: ah
[04:48] <BluesKaj> ok, RivaeAerya , better sources will improve speed .AFAIK  ktorrent is fast as it gets ...never used deluge so i can't say
[04:49] <RivaeAerya> BluesKaj: as fast as azureus?
[04:49] <ARM9> changed nick
[04:49] <Impy^> what's the best software for playing dvds on kubuntu?
[04:49] <ARM9> But I heard that if I sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop that will remove quite a lot?
[04:49] <stdin> RivaeAerya: Azureus is slower that KTorrent, as it has to load java
[04:50] <RivaeAerya> BluesKaj: alright, one more question. How can i move my files to another directory, but then keep it seeding the files, while in another directory?
[04:50] <ARM9> What exactly would it remove?
[04:50] <qlr> stdin: okay, let me rephrase... how do i set up samba?
[04:50] <RivaeAerya> stdin: i mean in download speed
[04:50] <stdin> !best | Impy^
[04:50] <ubotu> Impy^: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[04:50] <runlevelten> oog, yay gaffa tape.
[04:50] <stdin> Impy^: but VLC is what I use
[04:50] <runlevelten> my gaffa-taped finger hasn't dropped off xD
[04:50] <Impy^> kaffeine won't play dvd :(
[04:50] <stdin> qlr: ahh, you haven't set it up yet?
[04:50] <stdin> !dvd
[04:50] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[04:51] <runlevelten> kaffeine can play dvds
[04:51] <BluesKaj> heh, azureus are you kidding ,, that bloated thing ..yes absolutely ...ppl thinkl the client is reponsible for speed of DLs but it can help a small amount ...the source of the DL is the major determining factor speedwise in my experience
[04:51] <runlevelten> I used to do it on suse all the time, with libdvdcss and xine installed :)
[04:51] <qlr> stdin: i do not know.....
[04:51] <icecruncher> ARM9: nothing but the package, it is basically a help, getting the rest (something like that)
[04:51] <Impy^> says source can't be read
[04:51] <stdin> qlr: do you want to install the samba server or just the client
[04:51] <stdin> ?
[04:51] <runlevelten> haven't ever tried it on kubuntu
[04:51] <ARM9> So it would only remove the GNOME desktop environment, nothing else (like programs, libs, users etc??)
[04:52] <RivaeAerya> BluesKaj: alright
[04:52] <runlevelten> I have both installed, never hurt anything :)
[04:52] <snipex> grrr
[04:52] <snipex> update manager says that it cant fetch 1 file
[04:53] <stdin> ARM9: it would remove the GTK apps, but it won't mess with your user/system settings. you can always just have both kde and gnome installed. or just install some of the GTK apps you like in kubuntu
[04:53] <qlr> stdin: dunno, i want to connect to some xp pcs via file and printer share, also there are 2 printers on xp pcs that i would like to use.....so.....client i guess......?
[04:53] <RivaeAerya> BluesKaj: alright, one more question. How can i move my files to another directory, but then keep it seeding the files, while in another directory?
[04:53] <pag> RivaeAerya, you want to move files and continue seeding in ktorrent, right?
[04:53] <RivaeAerya> pag: yes
[04:53] <pag> RivaeAerya, right click on the torrent and choose "set download location"
[04:54] <ARM9> stdin: So it would remove everything GTK related or just the default applications?
[04:54] <stdin> qlr: ok, well you already have that installed, and you don't need to set a workgroup for it. Samba will just scan all the workgroups it can find
[04:54] <RivaeAerya> pag: but i don't want the folder moved, i want only the files moved, as i keep my files in a category, in a flat hierarchy
[04:55] <BluesKaj> RivaeAerya, you have to set the seed sourcefile in ktorrent or deluge under  General -" automatically save downloads to: "
[04:55] <stdin> ARM9: it will probably remove most the GTK stuff (including the GTK libs)
[04:55] <ARM9> Ok, that's cool.
[04:56] <runlevelten> I don't bother removing it myself. Space is cheap, why not keep choices?
[04:56] <qlr> stdin: okay....how do i install a samba printer?
[04:56] <ARM9> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop now...
[04:56] <pag> RivaeAerya, hmm... I might be wrong on that, but torrens don't like, if you break their inner folder hierarchy...
[04:56] <RivaeAerya> pag: hmm... why is that?
[04:56] <stdin> qlr: with the printer setup wizard, in system settings
[04:56] <ARM9> Btw, how would I switch between kubuntu and ubuntu desktop later??
[04:57] <runlevelten> stop seeding for a second, move files, create symbolic links to them, start seeding again
[04:57] <runlevelten> I do that daily with ktorrent and it works perfectly
[04:57] <RivaeAerya> runlevelten: ah, ok :D
[04:57] <BluesKaj> RivaeAerya, you can change the location after stopping a seed , then begin reseeding
[04:58] <qlr> stdin: the printer setup wizard can't findt the printers.......cant findt the workgroup too....
[04:58] <runlevelten> so you just replace the directory/file with a symbolic link, while the torrent's stopped
[04:58] <RivaeAerya> runlevelten: what do you mean with creating symbolic links to em?
[04:58] <RivaeAerya> runlevelten: to where?
[04:58] <runlevelten> well I'll do like this:
[04:58] <stdin> ARM9: you can choose at login. there is a menu, before you login where you can choose kde or gnome
[04:58] <pag> RivaeAerya, I'm not even sure if that's true, so I can't really tell the reasons. I've just have a feeling that the things are that way :-/
[04:58] <ARM9> Okay. =)
[04:58] <BluesKaj> hehe symbolic links aren't so easy sometimes
[04:59] <pag> RivaeAerya, but well; you've got the solution, so nevermind :)
[04:59] <RivaeAerya> pag: heh
[04:59] <imagine> is it normal autocompletion doesn't work on konsole?
[04:59] <runlevelten> mv Downloads/myTorrent Storage/myTorrent && ln -s Storage/myTorrent Downloads/myTorrent
[04:59] <stdin> qlr: make sure that the windows firewall isn't blocking it
[04:59] <runlevelten> or do the same thing with konqueror by drag and drop
[04:59] <Vuen> df -h
[04:59] <Vuen> oops wrong window
[04:59] <stdin> qlr: I can detect my samba printer on this laptop, and I haven't even set any samba stuff up
[04:59] <RivaeAerya> runlevelten: But if i don't want the files to be in a folder, but in my folder, for example, some music files in /home/robin/Music, and i don't want them to be in that folder that's specified in the torrent.. how?
[05:00] <qlr> stdin: windows firewall is off on both pcs, also i CANT ping anything with his "computer name" only with his ip.....
[05:00] <runlevelten> you stop the torrent, then:
[05:00] <ubuntu__> i have managed to have to boot menu but can not mount my hard disk partition
[05:00] <runlevelten> 1. Move the stuff to your folder
[05:00] <ubuntu__> for no reason..
[05:00] <ubuntu__> i do not know why?
[05:00] <ubuntu__> can anybody help please?
[05:00] <RivaeAerya> ubuntu__: #ubuntu
[05:00] <runlevelten> 2. Where the file was, replace it with a link to the new file *with the same name*
[05:01] <stdin> qlr: that's normal, as you aren't running a DNS server. you can ping by name if you add the IP/name to /etc/hosts, but that's nothing to do with samba
[05:01] <ubuntu__> i am trying these..
[05:01] <ubuntu__> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:01] <snipex> !upgrading
[05:01] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[05:01] <ubuntu__> anybody please?
[05:01] <ubuntu__> ?????????????????
[05:01] <runlevelten> so instead of Download/music.mp3, you now have a link called Download/music.mp3
[05:01] <Vuen> runlevelten, RivaeAerya: yeah, that'll work, but why not just leave it where it is and simlink to it from your music folder? that's what i do. then you just move it for real when you stop seeding.
[05:01] <runlevelten> that goes to /home/robin/Music/music.mp3
[05:02] <imagine> is it normal autocompletion doesn't work on konsole?
[05:02] <stdin> imagine: no
[05:02] <SlimeyPete> no
[05:02] <Vuen> imagine: nope. autocomplete should work
[05:02] <SlimeyPete> but autocomplete is a bash thing, not a konsole thing
[05:02] <RivaeAerya> Vuen: yeah, but how do i move multiple files in that torrent, to /home/robin/Music? i mean, i have several mp3s, and they're packaged in the torrent, in a folder. But, i want only the seperate mp3 files to move to /home/robin/Music. That's my actual question, how do i do THAT.
[05:03] <SlimeyPete> check that bash is installed and set as your default shell
[05:03] <runlevelten> well firstly that depends where you want the files
[05:03] <imagine> weird... it works on one user but doesn't on the other one..
[05:03] <runlevelten> RivaeAerya wants to do exactly what I do
[05:03] <Vuen> RivaeAerya: well, do what runlevelten says. i was just suggesting an easier alternative.
[05:03] <runlevelten> move the files to the music folder, etc
[05:03] <icecruncher> anyone considering of trying "opensolaris"?
[05:03] <qlr> stdin: okay, so how do i set up the printer? it is located on a windows xp pc, in the AMIGO workgroup, i can get it's shared files, but dont know what to do to get the printer running...
[05:03] <RivaeAerya> Vuen: alright, but that makes a link to the folder... not the music files, multiple music files
[05:03] <Vuen> RivaeAerya: stop the torrent, move them, link them back, resume the torrent. it's just a pain for no reason.
[05:04] <RivaeAerya> Vuen: oh, just link the multiple files? aye..
[05:04] <stdin> imagine: make sure that the users .bashrc sources /etc/bash_completion
[05:04] <Vuen> RivaeAerya: you can make multiple simlinks, one for each file...
[05:04] <qlr> stdin: (i don't have a clue in what workgroup i am)
[05:04] <RivaeAerya> Vuen: how do i do that in konqueror?
[05:04] <runlevelten> if you want to do it for each file, not for the folder, then it has to be done for each file... kind of a rod for your own back really, heh
[05:04] <Vuen> RivaeAerya: first stop the torrent, then open a konq window
[05:05] <Vuen> RivaeAerya: click View->Split View->Left Right
[05:05] <SlimeyPete> imagine: you need to figure out how to set the users shell to bash (I forget how)
[05:05] <malik__> hi ......i am trying to install mldonkey from the repos, apart from mlkdonkey-server package, which gui package should i install? kmldonkey or mldonkey-gui?.......any help is welcome
[05:05] <Vuen> RivaeAerya: browse one side to where the music files are in the torrent, browse the other to your music folder
[05:05] <BluesKaj> heh , I just copy the file to it's final destination , once i think my ratio is high enuff I stop seeding , I delete the original , RivaeAerya ...no worries
[05:05] <stdin> qlr: does the command "smbtree -N" show the printer?
[05:05] <Vuen> RivaeAerya: ctrl+click all the music files you want, then drag them over to your music folder. it'll ask you what you want, choose Move
[05:06] <RivaeAerya> BluesKaj: my disk space is kind of limited
[05:06] <Vuen> RivaeAerya: then ctrl+click reselect all the music files you just moved, then drag them back to the torrent folder. it'll ask you what you want, choose Link
[05:06] <runlevelten> then keep them selected, and drag them back - this time choose Link
[05:06] <Vuen> RivaeAerya: that's it. then just resume the torrent.
[05:06] <RivaeAerya> Vuen: thanks!
[05:06] <imagine> well it's weird.. if I create a user on konsole using useradd -m I can't get autocompletion.. but if I create it using the control center.. it works..
[05:06] <qlr> stdin: the command showd some information about my pc, about 3 lines, nothing more
[05:07] <bronze-> I'm using KDE, and I want to uninstall alot of applications, e.g. all applications under "games". What's the fastest way to do this?
[05:07] <Vuen> RivaeAerya: this whole procedure is kindof silly though. you'd be better off to just link them directly in the music folder and move them later, or just not seed at all. it's not a big deal if you don't seed sometimes; there are other people (i.e. me) who don't mind seeding
[05:07] <stdin> qlr: about YOUR computer?
[05:07] <BluesKaj> RivaeAerya, try the symbolic link thing , but then see if you can play the file while it's still seeding
[05:07] <RivaeAerya> Vuen: it worked!
[05:08] <qlr> stdin: yep, mine
[05:08] <stdin> qlr: what does it say?
[05:08] <qlr> !paste
[05:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:09] <kamui> !ntfs
[05:09] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:09] <qlr> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29795/
[05:09] <kamui> !ntfs-3g
[05:09] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:10] <ARM9> Okay now I set KDM as default...
[05:10] <ARM9> Still downloading packages. :P
[05:10] <imagine> another bug: if I use vi.. when I use arrows while inserting text.. it writes letter (B for up arrow, etc)
[05:10] <stdin> qlr: so you do have the samba server installed then :p
[05:10] <RivaeAerya> Vuen: what happens if you don't stop the seeding?
[05:10] <Vuen> imagine: yeah, something's wrong there...
[05:11] <Vuen> RivaeAerya: what do you mean?
[05:11] <vlt> Hello. I've installes Kubuntu 7.0.4, and sometimes Konqueror can't access some sites (or localhost) while curl or elinks works fine? What could be a reason for this behavior?
[05:11] <RivaeAerya> Vuen: if you don't pause the seeding, and move the files
[05:11] <habib_> salut
[05:11] <RivaeAerya> Vuen: by the way, nice trick, the split-view
[05:11] <Vuen> RivaeAerya: a few things can happen, the main danger is that the client will think the data went missing before you make the symlinks and restart the download
[05:12] <RivaeAerya> Vuen: alright
[05:12] <Vuen> RivaeAerya: if it already had the files open, it will continue happily working (because the linux kernel is so nice :D, don't try that on windows)
[05:12] <azzco> My boot time is really really long, does anyone know something that could fasten it a bit?
[05:12] <Vuen> RivaeAerya: anyway if you forgot to stop the torrent when you moved the files, just stop it now and hit resume. this will make it reopen the files from the symlinks
[05:12] <stdin> qlr: do you have a firewall running on your pc, or are you behind a router?
[05:12] <RivaeAerya> Vuen: alright, that will still fix it?
[05:13] <Vuen> RivaeAerya: yeah. probably nothing's broken anyway.
[05:13] <RivaeAerya> Vuen: didn't happen yet. but just in case
[05:13] <imagine> Vuen: do you think it's VI related? or Ubuntu related? (it's not  doing that on SuSE on my other compuTer)
[05:13] <ubuntu__> hello
[05:13] <ubuntu__> nobody wont help me
[05:13] <ubuntu__> is there anyone that knows
[05:13] <Vuen> imagine: my first guess would be xorg related. some codepage is wrong or something. unfortunately i don't know anything about that :(
[05:13] <ubuntu__> how i can mount this freaking partition
[05:14] <qlr> stdin: nope
[05:14] <ubuntu__>  so that i can log in to my kubuntu?
[05:14] <Vuen> imagine: go to a vt and try vi, see if it works
[05:14] <RivaeAerya> Vuen: what's the default UDP port of ktorrent?
[05:14] <Vuen> imagine: like the arrow keys and all
[05:14] <pag> ubuntu__, sudo mount /dev/sdXY /mount/point ?
[05:14] <imagine> vt= virtual terminal?
[05:14] <ubuntu__> pag what was that?
[05:14] <Vuen> RivaeAerya: afaik 6881, same as every other torrent client (except recent releases of Azureus, which uses a random port)
[05:14] <qlr> stdin: i can acces the shared files on both pcs but not the printers......
[05:14] <Vuen> imagine: yeah
[05:15] <stdin> qlr: strange...
[05:15] <ubuntu__> i have done that already
[05:15] <ubuntu__> but when i restatt
[05:15] <ubuntu__> restart
[05:15] <ubuntu__> i get
[05:15] <RivaeAerya> Vuen: thanks
[05:15] <ubuntu__> the menu
[05:15] <ubuntu__> the boot menu
[05:15] <ubuntu__> but afterwards
[05:15] <jhutchins> !enter | ubuntu__
[05:15] <ubotu> ubuntu__: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:15] <ubuntu__> i can not login to the partition
[05:15] <stdin> ubuntu__: add it to /etc/fstab to have it mount automatically
[05:16] <pag> !grub | ubuntu__
[05:16] <ubotu> ubuntu__: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:16] <ubuntu__> ok..sorry/../  how can i do that please ?
[05:16] <stdin> qlr: have you tried putting in the information manually?
[05:16] <ubuntu__> ok i will try it and come back. thank you..
[05:16] <jhutchins> ubuntu__: You may need to set the fmask and dmask to allow regular users to access the drive.
[05:17] <stdin> ubuntu__: by adding a line like "/dev/sda2 /home ext3 defaults"
[05:18] <jhutchins> stdin: Will defaults cover the problem of partitions mounting root-only?  Do you know where the default values are set?
[05:19] <stdin> jhutchins: for ext3 the permissions are stored on the filesystem, so umask/dmask don't really apply
[05:19] <ubuntu__> i am really confused
[05:19] <apmarin> Hi!
[05:19] <jhutchins> Ah, that's why it's a problem with other filesystems then.
[05:19] <kamui> anyone with intel GMA chipset manage to get dual screens working BOTH with DRI?
[05:19] <stdin> jhutchins: and "defaults" is a keyword in mount
[05:20] <ubuntu__> i need somebody that can help me out !!! seriously !! i ahev all my files in there!!!
[05:20] <apmarin> somebody have compiz fusion in a laptop with intel graphic card?
[05:20] <kamui> I can only seem to get dri enabled on my right (screen 0) display
[05:20] <jhutchins> He wasn't clear what kind of a partition it was or what problems he was having.
[05:20] <Vuen> ubuntu__: i use ntfs-3g to access my windows drive. want to see my fstab?
[05:20] <ubuntu__> i am running my live cd now.. is that possible ?? otherwise i can not loggin
[05:21] <ubuntu__> it's madness !!!
[05:21] <Vuen> ubuntu__: you're running off a livecd? it's a lot of work to configure ntfs-3g for something that will go away when you restart your computer...
[05:22] <RivaeAerya> Vuen: ktorrent's download speed is REALLY slow in comparison with deluge
[05:22] <jhutchins> Let's not go throwing in assumptions here.
[05:22] <ubuntu__> tha'ts what i mean.. i can not login to my kubuntu.. i installed windows in another partition end afterthat i could never login again kubuntu
[05:22] <RivaeAerya> Vuen: and i'm talking about a torrent with thousands of seeds here
[05:22] <jhutchins> ubuntu__: Tell us what happend and what's happening now.
[05:22] <ubuntu__> i don't know what to do
[05:22] <apmarin> somebody have compiz fusion in a laptop with intel graphic card?
[05:22] <RivaeAerya> Vuen: the download speed goes from 1kb/s to 10kb/s and back to 1kb/s
[05:22] <jhutchins> ubuntu__: Do you have a kubuntu installation that you can't log in to?
[05:22] <ubuntu__> yes !!!
[05:22] <ubuntu__> yes !!!
[05:23] <Vuen> RivaeAerya: it's possible that something is configured wrong. with such huge torrents i often get speeds >300kb/s
[05:23] <SlimeyPete> ubuntu__: you mean you don't get the option to boot kubuntu?
[05:23] <jhutchins> ubuntu__: What happens when you try to log in?
[05:23] <jhutchins> SlimeyPete: No, he said he can't log in.
[05:23] <RivaeAerya> Vuen: yeah, in Deluge, the same for me
[05:23] <jhutchins> SlimeyPete: Not that it won't boot.
[05:23] <ubuntu__> now i get the option since i tried the recoveringubuntuafterinstallingwindows site
[05:23] <SlimeyPete> jhutchins: I know what he said. But what people say is not always what they mean ;)
[05:23] <RivaeAerya> Vuen: this port: 65312 <-- is forwarded in my router
[05:23] <Vuen> RivaeAerya: try changing the port to something else (mine is set to 61240), and make sure you configure your router and firewall to open that port
[05:23] <ubuntu__> now i get the login menu
[05:23] <Vuen> RivaeAerya: ah
[05:23] <Vuen> RivaeAerya: ok then tell ktorrent to use that port
[05:23] <RivaeAerya> Vuen: already does
[05:23] <ubuntu__> but it says that the partition is not mounted or something like that
[05:24] <Vuen> RivaeAerya: oh. um, maybe restart ktorrent?
[05:24] <jhutchins> ubuntu__: What happens when you try to log in?
[05:24] <SlimeyPete> a newbie might say "log in" when they mean "boot", though not in this case it would seem :)
[05:24] <RivaeAerya> Vuen: but the UDP tracker port is 4444, and i already restarted.
[05:24] <jhutchins> ubuntu__: Ok, we need what it actually says.
[05:24] <jhutchins> ubuntu__: I'm guessing that one of your partitions isn't correct.
[05:24] <ubuntu__> the thing is that i get confused withe boot partition file or directory or whatever.. i do not know if it is the same with the partition that has my kubuntu on it
[05:24] <Vuen> RivaeAerya: UDP tracker port should say 4444. i assume you're not tracking anything, so you don't need to worry about that
[05:24] <ubuntu__> probably
[05:24] <jhutchins> ubuntu__: We can figure that out, can you get the exact error message for us?
[05:25] <ubuntu__> ok i will restart and come back to you
[05:25] <ubuntu__> ok ?
[05:25] <qlr> stdin: haven't tryed it, could you help me how to do that?
[05:25] <jhutchins> ok, I am going to get coffee and some food and will be back.
[05:25] <ubuntu__> ok thank you.. byeee
[05:26] <stdin> qlr: you just put in the workgroup of the computer with the printer on, the computer name and the printer name (share name)
[05:26] <stdin> qlr: all in the printer wizard dialog
[05:27] <qlr> computer name or ip address?
[05:27] <qlr> stdin: ^^
[05:28] <kamui> !mp3
[05:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:28] <stdin> qlr: name
[05:29] <wepiha> no luck getting line-input working here... any suggestions/links/howtos etc? kernel module is snd-ymfpci...
[05:29] <Vuen> RivaeAerya: right now i'm downloading a torrent with ktorrent that has 246 seeds and 261 peers total
[05:29] <Vuen> RivaeAerya: i'm getting 310kb/s consistently
[05:30] <Vuen> RivaeAerya: ktorrent works quite well for me. it's probably just a configuration problem somewhere. try enabling the upnp plugin
[05:30] <RivaeAerya> Vuen:  523 seeds, 654 leechers, so says the website page, but my client says 52 seeds
[05:30] <Vuen> RivaeAerya: also, are you using kubuntu 7.04?
[05:30] <RivaeAerya> Vuen: yes
[05:30] <RivaeAerya> Vuen: and UpnP is enabled
[05:30] <Vuen> RivaeAerya: yes, that's because it's only connected to 52 seeds. if you click the info box you'll see how many you're connected to and how many total.
[05:30] <stdin> RivaeAerya: the site could be out-of-date
[05:30] <dr_willis> I have ktorrent working very well for me most of the time also.
[05:30] <stdin> RivaeAerya: some only update every few hours
[05:30] <RivaeAerya> Vuen: and... the name is KtorrentGibbon in the titlebar cause i have kde 3.5.7
[05:31] <kamui> Anyone working with the Intel GMA chipset at all
[05:31] <Dou1> hi, I'm trying to instal feisty fawn on my vista laptop.  I have 2 partitions free, but when i get to the kubuntu install do i select Guided - use entire disk or manual?
[05:31] <RivaeAerya> Vuen: download speed is around 50kb/s now
[05:31] <Vuen> RivaeAerya: ah. i have kde 3.5.6. should still work though, i highly doubt that's a new bug in ktorrent.
[05:31] <RivaeAerya> Vuen: me too
[05:31] <stdin> Dou1: choose manual if you have already partitioned
[05:31] <RivaeAerya> Vuen: only a few peers show download speed
[05:32] <Daisuke_Ido> yay for MS releasing patches that break more than they fix!
[05:32] <jerram> howdy guys and girls
[05:32] <Dou1> ok, then i delete the partitions and make an ext partition and a swap partition, but it won't let me continue
[05:32] <Dou1> it says "no root file system is defined"
[05:32] <Vuen> RivaeAerya: it sounds like it's working fine. just give it some time, it'll speed up.
[05:32] <RivaeAerya> Vuen: i started it up a half hour ago.
[05:33] <Vuen> RivaeAerya: in any case not all torrents will go fast. it depends what you're downloading. people who share "300-DVDRip" are more likely to seed fast than people who share "Dancing With The Stars Season 1"
[05:33] <smylanakis> hello
[05:33] <qlr> stdin: doesn't work :(
[05:33] <jerram> im fresh to my ubuntu install, and cant work out where my cd is mounting to - is it automounting, and if so where is it mounting to?
[05:33] <dr_willis> Dou1,  you must assign one of the partitiosn to be mounted to '/'
[05:33] <jhutchins_lt> ubuntu__: I'm back, what did I miss?
[05:34] <Dou1> the ext partition then?
[05:34] <dr_willis> Dou1,  '/ ' is called  the 'root' filesystem,
[05:34] <smylanakis> i was previously ubuntu_ but now had to change my nickname.. i am the one with log in problem after installing windows
[05:34] <nosrednaekim> jerram: probably /media/cdrom
[05:34] <jhutchins_lt> K.
[05:34] <smylanakis> is there anybody that i was talking before
[05:34] <smylanakis> here ?
[05:34] <jhutchins_lt> smylanakis: That would be me.
[05:34] <jerram> nosrednaekim: ill check that again
[05:34] <smylanakis> nice
[05:34] <Vuen> RivaeAerya: torrents with commercial backing are likely to go fastest of all, for example the new ubuntu cd. i only download legal torrents, so maybe that's why i get good speeds.
[05:34] <smylanakis> very nice.. well my friend it says cannot mount selected partition
[05:35] <RivaeAerya> Vuen: check out your private message
[05:35] <Dou1> thanks dr_willis would i make the ext3 mounted to '/' then?
[05:35] <stdin> qlr: I don't know then, for me it just works.
[05:35] <jhutchins_lt> smylanakis: Anything clue what it's trying to mount?  This is after the login screen, correct?
[05:35] <dr_willis> RivaeAerya,  ive had amazing speeds on the newese iso releases. :)  I though my network cables would over heat.
[05:35] <dr_willis> Dou1,  yes.
[05:35] <stdin> qlr: maybe try asking in #samba ?
[05:35] <Dou1> thank you very much
[05:35] <qlr> :)
[05:35] <qlr> stdin: thx will try
[05:35] <dr_willis> Dou1,  unless you can think of anything ELSE  to do.. heh. Its the logical thing to do.
[05:36] <Dou1> yeah haha
[05:36] <dr_willis> Dou1,  dont 'mount' the swap partition anywere - its 'type' should be swap. , it dosent ahve a mount point
[05:36] <smylanakis> this is after exatly that.. one sec..
[05:36] <smylanakis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:36] <Dou1> ok
[05:36] <RivaeAerya> dr_willis: what amount of KB/s?
[05:36] <smylanakis> there must be something that i did wrong.. i dont know.. the log in menu come up but when i choose which one to log in i just can't
[05:37] <smylanakis> this message comes up
[05:37] <dr_willis> RivaeAerya,  i forget.. was like 600+ i dident think my connection could do that fast.
[05:37] <dr_willis> of coruse when ya get 3000+ seeders on an iso file.. it helps
[05:38] <smylanakis> that means that i did something right (since before no log in menu would came up just logged in to windows without asking anything) but from the other hand now it says that it cannot mount tha selected partition
[05:38] <RivaeAerya> dr_willis: lol
[05:38] <smylanakis> whatever i am very confused
[05:38] <RivaeAerya> dr_willis: where do i get that torrent?
[05:38] <jhutchins_lt> smylanakis: Ok, my login screen just has blanks for username and password.  What choices do you have?
[05:38] <nosrednaekim> smylanakis: is your /home on a different partition?
[05:38] <smylanakis> what do you mean home ?
[05:38] <boguh> is there a restricted driver tool in kubuntu like under gnome?
[05:39] <smylanakis> my kubuntu ?
[05:39] <nosrednaekim> smylanakis: do you have a separate partition for your /home
[05:39] <dr_willis> RivaeAerya,  it was one of the Ubuntu torrents. I belive. Been a while. Some Linux Iso just released i torrent'ed it 2 days later.. and got great speeds. :)
[05:39] <nosrednaekim> boguh: not yet, but you can just get the ubuntu one
[05:39] <RivaeAerya> dr_willis: i'll try it out
[05:39] <jhutchins_lt> smylanakis: /home/<user> is where all your personal stuff is stored, some people make a seperate partition for it.
[05:39] <dr_willis>  - /home - the directory where ALL users  home dirs are located.. Often mounted to a seperate partition/filesystem/drive
[05:40] <smylanakis> yes that is in sda3 ok ? just to make a start
[05:40] <jhutchins_lt> smylanakis: We're jumping ahead a little here and guessing that that's what the system is trying to mount, and it's not working.
[05:40] <smylanakis> ok
[05:40] <jhutchins_lt> smylanakis: and "/" is a different partition?
[05:41] <smylanakis> should i show you what exactly i did ?
[05:41] <jhutchins_lt> smylanakis: We can probably go from here.
[05:41] <nosrednaekim> smylanakis: lets put it this way, did you just do the guided, standard partitioning in the installer?
[05:41] <Sinistral_> Is it possible to force a process to use the swap space instead of physical memory?
[05:41] <smylanakis> yes
[05:41] <jhutchins_lt> smylanakis: But whatever.  If it's more than a line or two, use pastebin.
[05:41] <smylanakis> that's what i did..
[05:41] <nosrednaekim> smylanakis: then you probably don't have a separate /home
[05:42] <dr_willis> Sinistral_,  not sure...  now why would you want to.. i dont know.. :)
[05:42] <smylanakis> i dont know whatever i am having ok ? lol  i am a newby
[05:42] <nosrednaekim> do a "mount" and see if it mentions a /home anywhere in there.
[05:42] <jhutchins_lt> nosrednaekim: He's on the live CD.
[05:42] <smylanakis> do mount where and how ?
[05:42] <nosrednaekim> oh.... my bad
[05:42] <jhutchins_lt> smylanakis: Right?
[05:42] <nosrednaekim> never mind
[05:42] <jhutchins_lt> smylanakis: Live CD?
[05:42] <smylanakis> yes
[05:42] <smylanakis> live cd
[05:42] <jerram> Back again. cdrom is set to cable select on the end cable plug, only ide plug. system disk is sda1 - cant load this mofo cdrom -im doing something wrong, what is it?
[05:42] <jhutchins_lt> Cause he can't get on-line with the installation.
[05:43] <stdin> Sinistral_:  don't think so, swap is only used when physcal memory is full
[05:43] <jhutchins_lt> smylanakis: Ok, let's start with sudo fdisk -l in a console, and post the output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[05:43] <Sinistral_> dr_willis: Im running low on phys mem and I want this to move applications that I new often running (eg. firefox) while running a game. The game should have as much as possible phys mem to run smooth.
[05:43] <smylanakis> ok.. thanx.. that's the right way.. :D
[05:44] <Sinistral_> oups "new often running" > "need running to swap)
[05:44] <stdin> Sinistral_: are you sure you're running low, it may just be cached
[05:44] <dr_willis> Sinistral_,  every time ive seen some duscissions about forceing the memory manager to do one thing or the other... the threads always basicially conclude. its best to let Linux handle it.    The memorymanager should automaticially move the unneeded stuff to swap
[05:45] <dr_willis> used mem as cache is like the first to get released isent it.
[05:45] <smylanakis> ok i posted it !
[05:45] <Sinistral_> stdin: ksysguard reports about 15.000 KB free phys mem
[05:46] <jerram> I worked it out: you guys will love this.
[05:46] <stdin> Sinistral_: eg: i see my mem is 90% used, but 483MB is in cache
[05:46] <smylanakis> hello anybody there ?
[05:46] <jerram> i was ssh'ed to my other box
[05:46] <jerram> BWWHHHAH!!
[05:46] <nosrednaekim> smylanakis: link please?
[05:46] <dr_willis> cached  747452 , here
[05:46] <smylanakis> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29801/
[05:46] <jerram> damn I suk
[05:46] <Sinistral_> Where do you see how much is in cache?
[05:46] <nosrednaekim> thank you
[05:46] <stdin> Sinistral_: yeah, but it may just be cache. use the command "free" to see
[05:47] <Sinistral_> ok, trying
[05:47] <wes> hey people somebody knows how can i get metisse or someone else desktop 3D, cuz i'm using kubuntu and i didnt got find any by now... =/
[05:47] <wes> hey people somebody knows how can i get metisse or someone else desktop 3D, cuz i'm using kubuntu and i didnt got find any by now... =/
[05:47] <dr_willis> Ive only seen metisse on that Mandriva live cd.
[05:47] <nosrednaekim> smylanakis: ok, so no separate /home
[05:47] <dr_willis> It seems tobe a  neat thing (tm) that no one ever looks at. :(
[05:47] <nosrednaekim> sabayon has it now.
[05:48] <smylanakis> whatever i do not know what you mean.. but if you say so :D:D
[05:48] <Sinistral_> stdin: 539096 chached-
[05:48] <nosrednaekim> smylanakis: lol
[05:48] <nosrednaekim> you'll learn
[05:48] <wes> ah thanks... and about someone else desktop 3D to kubuntu, what can i use?
[05:48] <dr_willis> what other ones are there?
[05:48] <stdin> Sinistral_: so you have plenty of mem left :)
[05:49] <Dannilion> bah. It looks like I can either play games, or have my laptop screen at the correct resolution, but not both.
[05:49] <smylanakis> you mean that the operating system is not devided in two parts or something ? lol
[05:49] <nosrednaekim> smylanakis: now, do a "sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda3 /mnt" in the terminal
[05:49] <Sinistral_> ok didn't know that, thank you!
[05:49] <nosrednaekim> smylanakis: precisely
[05:49] <smylanakis> well whatever,, what do we do next please ?:D
[05:49] <smylanakis> ok
[05:49] <jhutchins_lt> smylanakis: Sorry, having to deal with physicians on the phone here.
[05:49] <wes> to say the truth i dunno, i wanted to know if has someone without to be metisse them...
[05:49] <stdin> Sinistral_: trust linux, it's not evil like windows :p
[05:50] <jhutchins_lt> smylanakis: This is going to look a lot like what you did following the recovery instructions.
[05:50] <smylanakis> ok no problem i'll be waiting! i am not going anywhre now !!  :D by the way i gave the command :D
[05:50] <smylanakis> ok..  !!! interesting!! i am listening !
[05:50] <nosrednaekim> smylanakis: ok, now run "kdesu konqueror" and browse to /mnt
[05:51] <Sinistral_> stdin: hehe, so true! I just got a worse than earlier performance even on a older game and though it might be an memory issue
[05:52] <smylanakis> ok i did that but in the konsole this came up..
[05:52] <smylanakis> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 167
[05:52] <smylanakis>   Major opcode:  144
[05:52] <smylanakis>   Minor opcode:  3
[05:52] <smylanakis>   Resource id:  0x0
[05:52] <smylanakis> Failed to open device
[05:52] <dr_willis> !bad device
[05:52] <ubotu> If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[05:52] <nosrednaekim> yeah. don't worry about that
[05:52] <dr_willis> thats just a warning/annoying messae
[05:52] <stdin> dr_willis: not on a live cd tho
[05:52] <vzduch> !paste | smylanakis
[05:53] <smylanakis> ?
[05:53] <smylanakis> is that a command ?
[05:53] <dr_willis> hes got 167 also. not a 168. Odd...
[05:53] <ubotu> smylanakis: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:53] <jhutchins_lt> smylanakis: He's complaining about posting so many lines of the error here.
[05:53] <dr_willis> is what a command.. :)
[05:53] <Sloik> Greetings.
[05:53] <jhutchins_lt> smylanakis: Generally more than a couple lines should always go to pastebin.
[05:53] <smylanakis> ok sorry about that.. wont happen again..
[05:53] <vzduch> 31 seconds reaction time.. not bad.. o0
[05:53] <nosrednaekim> smylanakis: ok, you in /mnt now?
[05:53] <smylanakis> ok
[05:54] <smylanakis> yes i am my friend
[05:54] <smylanakis> what now ? :D lol..
[05:55] <nosrednaekim> that is your linux installation in case you didn't know. Now, go to the home folder, and then your directory.
[05:56] <guest_> hello may I join with you
[05:56] <smylanakis> ok what now guys ??
[05:56] <smylanakis> ??????????????????
[05:56] <nosrednaekim> so everything looks fine in there?
[05:57] <guest_> may I ask abount kubuntu in tihis firum
[05:57] <guest_> may I ask abount kubuntu in tihis forum
[05:57] <smylanakis> what do you mean in there ?
[05:57] <dr_willis> guest_,  you just did... care to asn another?
[05:57] <dr_willis> and another.. :)
[05:57] <dr_willis> !ask
[05:57] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:57] <smylanakis> everything looks fine ??
[05:57] <smylanakis> ??????????????????????
[05:58] <Daisuke_Ido> that's annoying
[05:58] <nosrednaekim> smylanakis: please calm down. Are all your files there?
[05:58] <jhutchins_lt> nosrednaekim: ownership/permissions
[05:58] <smylanakis> ooooooooohhhhhhhhhh.. ok.. just a minute to heck please..
[05:58] <Minataku> lo, dr_willis
[05:58] <nosrednaekim> indeed, that would be a problem as well.
[05:58] <smylanakis> yes!!! they are here !!!
[05:59] <smylanakis> yes!!! they are here !!!
[05:59] <Daisuke_Ido> jesus dude, take a valium.
[05:59] <Daisuke_Ido> little too excited
[05:59] <smylanakis> lol.. if you just knew what i have in that partition.. it's my whole life saved in there ...
[06:00] <nosrednaekim> smylanakis: ok, right click on your base directory in /home (/home/<your user name>) and select "properties"
[06:00] <dr_willis> That sounds like stuff thats worth BACKING UP....
[06:00] <dr_willis> :)
[06:00] <smylanakis> yes but i don't know the way !@!! :D lol
[06:00] <nosrednaekim> maybe he doesn't like his life ;)
[06:00] <nosrednaekim> smylanakis: burn it on a DVD or CD,
[06:00] <smylanakis> kust a minute you teasing fellows
[06:01] <MarcC> is there a way to force my current session to save over the old one that opens every time I start KDE?
[06:01] <Daisuke_Ido> dr_willis: iLife?
[06:01] <Daisuke_Ido> :D
[06:01] <smylanakis> how could i imagine that microsft would make it so bad even in these way ??
[06:01] <dr_willis> If you have IMPORNTANT stuff on a hard drive.. it  is not 'safe' the hard drive could die at any time.. right now!... or Now.. or tommorw...
[06:01] <nosrednaekim> smylanakis: what? MS has nothing to do with this.
[06:01] <dr_willis> If its that impornatant.. at least get a 2nd hd.. and mirror the stuff to it...
[06:01] <dr_willis> better yet.. get 2 :)
[06:01] <smylanakis> what is it then ?
[06:01] <nosrednaekim> smylanakis: any way... did you do that think I told you to?
[06:02] <Daisuke_Ido> tape backup!
[06:02] <smylanakis> why did that happen ?
[06:02] <stdin> get a full RAID + backup servers :)
[06:02] <nosrednaekim> *thing
[06:02] <smylanakis> i just installed windows and all this happened
[06:02] <smylanakis> i went to properties .. should i change the permissions tab or something ?
[06:03] <nosrednaekim> smylanakis: yea, go to that tab.
[06:03] <Daisuke_Ido> you installed windows...  after kubuntu?
[06:03] <nosrednaekim> smylanakis: does it say the owner can view and modify content?
[06:03] <smylanakis> yes windows after kubuntu.. in a different partition of course.. but afdterthat kubuntu dissapeared
[06:03] <smylanakis> yes
[06:03] <nosrednaekim> and the user is your user-name?
[06:03] <smylanakis> it says that
[06:04] <smylanakis> just a minute
[06:04] <smylanakis> no it says root
[06:04] <Daisuke_Ido> well yeah kubuntu disappeared.
[06:04] <Daisuke_Ido> oy vey
[06:04] <jhutchins_lt> MarcC: Yeah.
[06:04] <JumpyLinux> Is there some one here who has a Samsung SyncMaster 245B_
[06:04] <smylanakis> should i change the permissions only for the owner or the group together as well ?
[06:05] <nosrednaekim> smylanakis: I don't think you need to change anything
[06:05] <nosrednaekim> smylanakis: under ownership in that tab, is your user name YOUR username?
[06:05] <nosrednaekim> *the username YOUR username
[06:05] <smylanakis> no man it says root..
[06:05] <jhutchins_lt> THat's the problem.
[06:06] <smylanakis> my nickname when i was running kubuntu before the installation
[06:06] <smylanakis> was smylanakis
[06:06] <smylanakis> not root
[06:06] <nosrednaekim> OK!
[06:06] <nosrednaekim> we have found the problem.
[06:06] <jhutchins_lt> Makes sense now.
[06:06] <Daisuke_Ido> PEBKAC?
[06:06] <smylanakis> should i change that?? and the group too ?
[06:06] <jhutchins_lt> Daisuke_Ido: No.
[06:06] <smylanakis> ok let me change it then guys
[06:06] <Daisuke_Ido> root access screwing things up
[06:06] <nosrednaekim> smylanakis: wait wait...
[06:07] <jhutchins_lt> Daisuke_Ido: During the recovery process, he did something as root that changed that.  Yes, an error, but not really pebkac.
[06:07] <MarcC> jhutchins_lt:
[06:07] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm only half-paying attention :P
[06:07] <MarcC> lol
[06:07] <jhutchins_lt> Daisuke_Ido: He's been quite clear in following instructions to recover.
[06:07] <Daisuke_Ido> ah ha
[06:07] <Daisuke_Ido> well that's a plus
[06:07] <smylanakis> i changed it but it wont save it
[06:07] <smylanakis> ok sorry.. i am waiting..
[06:08] <nosrednaekim> smylanakis: ok, just checking something. OK go ahead and change it
[06:08] <MarcC> ah!
[06:08] <MarcC> dcop ksmserver default saveCurrentSession
[06:08] <MarcC> wham
[06:08] <smylanakis> i tried but it wont save it..
[06:08] <nosrednaekim> and make sure you check the box that says apply changes to subfolders
[06:08] <smylanakis> when i save it and go to permissions again the name is root again
[06:08] <nosrednaekim> smylanakis: what?
[06:08] <smylanakis> wait
[06:08] <smylanakis> .........
[06:08] <nosrednaekim> did you apply to all sub-olders?
[06:09] <nosrednaekim> *folders
[06:09] <smylanakis> ok ok now i am doing it
[06:09] <smylanakis> but it takes time. !!
[06:10] <nosrednaekim> yeah.... it does take a bit
[06:11] <jhutchins_lt> That's usually a sign that it's working.
[06:11] <smylanakis> well i did and went to properties again and permissions and it is the same
[06:11] <smylanakis> root again !
[06:12] <nosrednaekim> this is your /home/smylanakis folder?
[06:13] <smylanakis> no man.. my home folder.. is that the problem ?
[06:13] <smylanakis> wait
[06:13] <nosrednaekim> you were trying to set ALL of home to be like that? or just home/smylankis?
[06:14] <smylanakis> first i did the stupid mistake for the home folder
[06:14] <theea> hello
[06:15] <smylanakis> but now i did the smylanakis folder in home folder  /home/smylanakis
[06:15] <smylanakis> and it is not working again..
[06:15] <nosrednaekim> make sure you chack the box saying apply to subfolders.
[06:15] <nosrednaekim> theea: hey
[06:15] <smylanakis> i did
[06:15] <smylanakis>  i did !!!
[06:15] <theea> i want to install irfanview via wine on my ubuntu and it doesent work
[06:15] <jhutchins_lt> Did we mount the partition r/w?
[06:16] <nosrednaekim> jhutchins_lt: isn't that the default?
[06:16] <dr_willis> theea,  ive had it work befor.. ages ago.. not tried lately.
[06:16] <jhutchins_lt> theea: Is it listed on the winehq page a sa program that' s known to work?
[06:16] <jhutchins_lt> nosrednaekim: Dunno, looks like maybe not.
[06:16] <jhutchins_lt> smylanakis: Do we have a console open?
[06:16] <dr_willis> A lot can depend on the version of wine.. and the version of the programs
[06:16] <theea> yep jhutchins_lt
[06:17] <smylanakis> yes we have..
[06:17] <smylanakis> o (KIOConnection): ERROR: Could not write data
[06:17] <smylanakis> kfile (kdelibs): ERROR:  ERROR: No user smylanakis
[06:17] <jhutchins_lt> smylanakis: Type "mount" there, pastebin the oputput if it's more than ... Eh?
[06:17] <smylanakis> kfile (kdelibs): ERROR:  ERROR: No user smylanakis
[06:17] <smylanakis> kio (KIOConnection): ERROR: Could not write data
[06:17] <smylanakis> kio (KIOConnection): ERROR: Could not write data
[06:17] <smylanakis> kio (KIOConnection): ERROR: Could not write data
[06:17] <smylanakis> kio (KIOConnection): ERROR: Could not write data
[06:17] <smylanakis> kio (KIOConnection): ERROR: Could not write data
[06:17] <theea> and also on irfanview site is written to use wine jhutchins_lt
[06:17] <jhutchins_lt> smylanakis: Remember, only one or two lines of paste here.
[06:17] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin
[06:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:17] <smylanakis> ok wait
[06:17] <smylanakis> ok ok sorry ..
[06:18] <theea> please do help i need badly irfanview
[06:18] <nosrednaekim> oh... I see the problem. it has to be solved from a chroot.
[06:18] <smylanakis> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29805/
[06:18] <smylanakis> here you are
[06:18] <smylanakis> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29805/
[06:18] <jhutchins_lt> theea: Ok, you might check in @wine, or if irfanview has a help channel, or just wait a bit.
[06:18] <theea> ok i wait
[06:18] <dr_willis> wine iview400_setup.exe
[06:18] <dr_willis> err:module:import_dll Library MFC42.DLL (which is needed by L"Z:\\home\\willis\\iview400_setup.exe") not found
[06:19] <dr_willis> :(
[06:19] <jhutchins_lt> smylanakis: Ok, we need a new pastebin with just the output of mount.
[06:19] <theea> for me nothing get activated after cliking on open with wine
[06:19] <boguh> how to install mp3 support? amarok always crashes when clicking on a mp3
[06:20] <nosrednaekim> boguh: install "libxine-extracodecs"
[06:20] <jhutchins_lt> theea: We are assuming that you have wine installed and configured.  Do you?
[06:20] <dr_willis> yep thats a known bug. :()
[06:20] <theea> bough you have codecs on add remove
[06:20] <theea> yes i have jhutchins_lt
[06:20] <jhutchins_lt> theea: Does minesweeper work?
[06:20] <theea> ] yep
[06:21] <theea> yep j
[06:21] <theea> sure i payed on it also jhutchins_lt
[06:21] <jhutchins_lt> theea: If trying to run something in the gui doesn't work, it's a good idea to try it in a console to see what errors you might be getting.
[06:21] <dr_willis> minesweeper  :0 now move up to sol.exe :)
[06:21] <persen_> Does kubuntu have a "server" edition as ubuntu has?
[06:21] <jhutchins_lt> persen_: Since a server usually doesn't use desktop stuff, no.
[06:21] <smylanakis> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29806/
[06:21] <smylanakis> ok this the one!
[06:22] <jhutchins_lt> smylanakis: No, the X errors aren't going to help.
[06:22] <smylanakis> it says no user smylanakis.. but the folder is also called smylanakis.. so..
[06:22] <nosrednaekim> smylanakis: no no... run "mount" and pastebin THAT output.
[06:22] <smylanakis> ok
[06:22] <smylanakis> sorry
[06:22] <smylanakis> just a sec
[06:22] <jhutchins_lt> smylanakis: What we need you to do is to open a console and type "mount" <return> then paste that.  DON'T paste the X errors.
[06:23] <smylanakis> here it is
[06:23] <smylanakis> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29807/
[06:23] <jhutchins_lt> nosrednaekim: There is no smylankis user on the live CD, that's what's happening.
[06:24] <nosrednaekim> jhutchins_lt: yeah I know... we are going to have to chroot, right?
[06:24] <jhutchins_lt> nosrednaekim: Possibly he needs to try numeric UID, and probably do this from the console.
[06:24] <jhutchins_lt> nosrednaekim: He should be able to do numeric uid from the console without chroot.
[06:24] <nosrednaekim> just assume a 1001?
[06:24] <dr_willis> I agree...
[06:24] <dr_willis> 1001 should be the first user.
[06:24] <jhutchins_lt> nosrednaekim: Is that standard?  Good, I'm not positive of that.
[06:24] <illriginal> how do you kill all firefox?
[06:25] <dr_willis> Oh wait.. 1000 - is the first user here.
[06:25] <jhutchins_lt> nosrednaekim: Check yours?
[06:25] <nosrednaekim> will do
[06:25] <nosrednaekim> ok.... yeah, its 1000
[06:25] <nosrednaekim> may bad
[06:25] <smylanakis> ???????????
[06:25] <jhutchins_lt> 1000 on mine too.
[06:25] <nosrednaekim> smylanakis: don't worry :D
[06:26] <nosrednaekim> ok great.
[06:26] <nosrednaekim> I forget how to use chmod though.
[06:26] <smylanakis> it looks like i should start to though :P
[06:26] <jhutchins_lt> smylanakis: So try this:  in the console, chown -R 1000:1000 /home/smylanakis
[06:26] <nosrednaekim> prefix sudo....
[06:26] <jhutchins_lt> Argh, no, that won't work!
[06:27] <jhutchins_lt> sudo chown -R 1000:1000 /mnt/home/smylankis
[06:27] <theea> jhutchins_lt: what i do if on terminal is written err:module:import_dll Library MFC42.DLL (which is needed by L"Z:\\home\\css\\Desktop\\iview_s.exe") not found
[06:27] <nosrednaekim> theea: grab it from windows?
[06:27] <jhutchins_lt> theea: Do you have a windows install on that box?
[06:28] <theea> what do you mea a windows install on that box
[06:28] <smylanakis> chown: cannot access `/home/smylanakis': No such file or directory
[06:28] <jhutchins_lt> theea: Is this a dual boot box with windows installed on it?
[06:29] <jhutchins_lt> smylanakis: sudo chown -R 1000:1000 /mnt/home/smylankis
[06:29] <nosrednaekim> smylanakis:run "sudo chown -R 1000:1000 /mnt/home/smylankis"
[06:29] <smylanakis> chown: cannot access `/mnt/home/smylankis': No such file or directory
[06:29] <theea> :(( i dont know in english the meaning of queation sorry
[06:29] <nosrednaekim> jhutchins_lt: what if his whole install has messed up permissions?
[06:29] <smylanakis> yeah ok
[06:29] <smylanakis> it got it !
[06:30] <jhutchins_lt> smylanakis: Ok, I guess reboot and try agian, and make sure you come back and let us know.
[06:30] <smylanakis> lol
[06:30] <smylanakis> ok whatever happens i'll be back !!!
[06:30] <jhutchins_lt> theea: Do you have a computer with MS Windows installeed on it somewhere?
[06:30] <nosrednaekim> jhutchins_lt: what if his whole install is messed up?
[06:30] <jhutchins_lt> nosrednaekim: We'll be teaching "backup under the live CD" I guess.
[06:31] <nosrednaekim> lol
[06:31] <theea> yes on a second partition on same computer jhutchins_lt
[06:32] <jhutchins_lt> theea: Excellent.
[06:32] <jhutchins_lt> theea: Do you have it set up to automaticaly mount in Linux?
[06:32] <jhutchins_lt> theea: (Mine mounts as just /windows.)
[06:32] <theea> i can see that partition on linux but is only readonly jhutchins_lt
[06:33] <jhutchins_lt> theea: In that case, search for MFC42.DLL on it.
[06:33] <theea> and then...
[06:33] <jhutchins_lt> theea: Copy it into where wine keeps it's .dll's.
[06:34] <jhutchins_lt> theea: The other thing to do is make /windows read/write, then have wine point to /windows as C:
[06:34] <jhutchins_lt> theea: In which case, if you already have the program installed, you don't need to install it in linux.
[06:34] <theea> how to make windows read write
[06:34] <jhutchins_lt> !ntfs | thea
[06:34] <vzduch> !ntfs
[06:34] <ubotu> thea: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:35] <jhutchins_lt> !ntfs-3g | thea
[06:35] <ubotu> thea: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[06:35] <jhutchins_lt> theea: Sorry, it's taht second one you need.
[06:35] <theea> ok
[06:35] <theea> i got it and i jump on it
[06:35] <theea> to do it
[06:35] <jhutchins_lt> Go get 'er!
[06:40] <smylanakis> sorry guys
[06:40] <smylanakis> it just did not work
[06:40] <smylanakis> :(:(:(
[06:41] <smylanakis> :(((((((((((((
[06:41] <nosrednaekim> jhutchins_lt:  you were saying something about backing up on liveCD? :P
[06:41] <smylanakis> so the game is lost? nothing can be done about it?
[06:41] <smylanakis> :((
[06:43] <nosrednaekim> smylanakis: thats one of the things you can never recover LInux from. Messed up permissions in / (which is what it seems like happened)
[06:44] <smylanakis> are you serius now?
[06:44] <smylanakis> noyhing can be done about it?
[06:44] <nosrednaekim> pretty much nothing.
[06:44] <nosrednaekim> as far as I know.
[06:45] <nosrednaekim> you could go hand edit all the permissions back, but that would take forever.
[06:45] <artabrahao> Hi, if I remove syslog it the ubuntu will create a new one?
[06:45] <nosrednaekim> yeah, I think so
[06:45] <jhutchins_lt> artabrahao: Why do you want to do that?
[06:45] <artabrahao> in the console, How Can I see the system time?
[06:46] <nosrednaekim> "date"
[06:46] <smylanakis> so we leave it like that know ? nothing else can be done ? anybody else please?? anyone ?
[06:46] <nosrednaekim> smylanakis: back up your home folder.
[06:46] <nosrednaekim> for starters.
 nice, and how can I change it?
[06:47] <nosrednaekim> artabrahao: "man date" will tell you
[06:47] <wepiha> where do I put kernel module options for a specific module, ie: options snd_ymfpci rear_switch=1
[06:47] <wepiha> ?
[06:47] <Nuked> is kubuntu supposed to mount partitions RO?
[06:47] <artabrahao> thanks
[06:48] <stdin> wepiha: in /etc/modprobe.d/options
[06:48] <zoohouse> hello eveyone
[06:48] <stdin> Nuked: what do you mean?
[06:48] <nosrednaekim> Nuked: NTFS partitions, yes
[06:48] <dave_> is there a way of ending process like alt+ctrl+delete does in windows?
[06:48] <nosrednaekim> alt+esc
[06:49] <zoohouse> dave_ yes. ctrl esc
[06:49] <nosrednaekim> sorry, "ctrl+esc"
[06:49] <Nuked> stdin when I look at the grub entry, the kernel is booted with ro, quiet and splash...is that normal
[06:49] <Nuked> stdin its a  linux partition
[06:49] <zoohouse> quit
[06:49] <stdin> Nuked: yeah, it is
[06:49] <dave_> aha brilliant cheers for that :D
[06:49] <theea> nosrednaekim: i installed ntfs config but i only may check the option enable support write on external device and that does not enable read write on windos
[06:49] <wepiha> stdin: thanks. after editing will update-modules use that or is a different command required?
[06:49] <Nuked> but if it is ro stdin, how does it make changes to the disk
[06:49] <stdin> Nuked: it's a security/safety thing, because fsck checks the filesystem at boot, and it needs to be ro
[06:50] <jhutchins> smylanakis: I think the first thing you want to do is make a copy of that essential information somewhere - NOW.
[06:50] <jhutchins> smylanakis: From here on out, anything you do to recover risks wiping that out.
[06:50] <stdin> Nuked: mount will remount it after, during boot
[06:50] <Nuked> stdin, I have an issue, if you can help, when booting sometimes my computer hangs, and again when it shuts down
[06:50] <theea> jhutchins:  i installed ntfs config but i only may check the option enable support write on external device and that does not enable read write on windos
[06:51] <stdin> wepiha: it may do, but a reboot is probably better
[06:51] <Nuked> is there any chance I could forward you some logs and maybe you could help me come to a conclusion
[06:51] <wepiha> roger
[06:51] <nosrednaekim> Nuked: sure, pastebin them.
[06:51] <gumjo> I want to compile somthing and it says I need a package called  libstdc++-dev, I've installed it from synaptic but I still get this message
[06:51] <stdin> Nuked: best thing to do is disable the spashscreen and see what's going on
[06:51] <jhutchins> theea: That's ok, I think that just installing it makes it enabled by default on internal devices, but now you have to set the mount options for your windows partition.
[06:51] <Nuked> nosrednaekim: the issue is which should I paste?
[06:52] <jhutchins> theea: What I would do is kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[06:52] <jhutchins> theea: Find the windows mount, and change ro to rw.
[06:52] <stdin> Nuked: where are the logs from?
[06:52] <nosrednaekim> Nuked: if it failed on last boot, the try /var/log/messages.0
[06:52] <theea> jhutchins: kdesu... is a comandline for terminal?
[06:52] <jhutchins> smylanakis: Where do you have space to store those files besides where they are now?
[06:53] <stdin> theea: you can run it from the run dialog: Alt+F2
[06:53] <jhutchins> smylanakis: And what kinds of files are they - will we need to preserve full ext file details like permissions?
[06:53] <jhutchins> theea: terminal, or if you are comfortable with a console editor you can use that with sudo, or kate in Alt-F2 as well.
[06:54] <Dou1> hey again, I've got kubuntu installed and running and when i go into the package updater, do i really want to upgrade all 80 packages?
[06:54] <stdin> jhutchins, theea: DO NOT use sudo with graphical apps
[06:54] <Dou1> and how do i make my mouse move faster, acceleration didn't work
[06:54] <stdin> Dou1: yes, yes you do
[06:54] <nosrednaekim> Dou1: I never upgrade personally... but yeah, its ussually ok
[06:55] <wepiha> nosrednaekim: personally, I look forward to them ;)
[06:55] <theea> jhutchins: it says that it fdoes not found the file
[06:55] <nosrednaekim> I mean 'update' duh...
[06:55] <nosrednaekim> ll
[06:55] <nosrednaekim> lol
[06:55] <Nuked> nosrednaekim: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29812/
[06:55] <wepiha> especially compiz-fusion
[06:55] <jhutchins> stdin: right, I said she could use sudo with a console text editor.
[06:56] <Dou1> how do i make my laptop mouse move faster? the acceleration thing didn't work
[06:56] <jhutchins> theea: Which did you do?
[06:56] <nosrednaekim> wepiha: ah... indeed
[06:56] <theea> i managet it i install it now
[06:57] <jhutchins> theea: You may need to remount the drive...
[06:57] <theea> it was kdesu
[06:57] <gumjo> I want to compile somthing and it says I need a package called libstdc++-dev, I've installed it but I still get this message
[06:57] <wepiha> Dou1: settings:/Peripherals/Mouse
[06:58] <Nuked> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29812/
[06:58] <jhutchins> Yea Bucharest!
[06:58] <theea> jhutchins are u from bucharest?
[06:58] <stdin> Nuked: that is MASSIVE, it almost killed my firefox :p
[06:58] <Nuked> my apologies!
[06:58] <wepiha> gumjo: depending on your needs libstdc++6-4.1-dev should work
[06:58] <mzanfardino> I'm working on a 101-keyboard and want to remap my "super" (win) key to something like caps-lock.  Where do I go to do this?
[06:58] <Nuked> stdin: im using bit
[06:58] <jhutchins> theea: No, just cheering you on.
[06:59] <theea> i'm from there jhutchins
[06:59] <Nuked> 64 bit feisty stdin
[06:59] <gumjo> wepiha, it says it is already installed and newest version
[06:59] <Dou1> wepiha: i know that's where i change mouse settings but i don't see a menu like that first of all
[06:59] <Dou1> i see system settings
[07:00] <Dou1> then keyboard & mouse
[07:00] <smylanakis> i have to store them jhutchins
[07:00] <smylanakis> but
[07:00] <smylanakis> that it not the matter actually
[07:00] <smylanakis> i want to save them ofcourse
[07:01] <smylanakis> but i had made all those graphics etc settings to work
[07:01] <CapaH> Does anyone here know why I am unable to change my laptop screen resolution to ANYTHING other than 1280x800 and 1024x768 ? I edited xorg.conf, I downloaded and tried using 915resolution, I even deleted all of the display sections in xorg.conf except one to the specific resolution I am trying to achieve (640x480) which 915resolution -l says I support --- and STILL it is identical, no change of any kind --- anyone?
[07:01] <stdin> Nuked: It's hard to see what would make it hang. What I think it probably would be is a script that takes a while to finish. To see which one it is, when you turn your computer on, you press Esc and go to the grub menu, then press E and move down to the line starting with "kernel" and press E again, then move to the end of the line remove the word "splash", then press enter and then B
[07:02] <jhutchins> smylanakis: If you tell me more about what the files are, I can help you come up with a strategy to save them, but we're talking about probably deleting everything and re-installing Linux.
[07:02] <Nuked> stdin I have done that, and had the computer start normally
[07:02] <jhutchins> CapaH: You have an LCD monitor?
[07:02] <Nuked> then hang on shutdown
[07:03] <CapaH> jhutchins: Yes
[07:03] <CapaH> laptop LCD monitor
[07:03] <stdin> Nuked: you should see what it hangs on when it shuts down tho
[07:03] <theea> jhutchins - sudo apt-get install kdebase-bin..........X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[07:03] <TheOneRing> hi i#m trieing to install kubuntu but the installation seems to hang on step 4
[07:03] <jhutchins> CapaH: Very common for those to only support one or two resolutions.
[07:03] <theea> jhutchins - kdesu kate /etc/fsta..........X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[07:03] <jhutchins> !baddevice | thea
[07:03] <ubotu> thea: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[07:03] <CapaH> jhutchins: When I type: 915resolution -l --- it lists plenty of resolutions, and I cannot seem to actually USE any of them
[07:03] <Nuked> oh really stdin?
[07:03] <stdin> theea: you can ignore all the "BadDevice" errors
[07:04] <theea> Failed to open device
[07:04] <theea> sh:
[07:04] <theea> kate: not found
[07:04] <jhutchins> I thought kate was installed by default
[07:04] <Nuked> how do I get it to do that stdin? (I booted using your advice...)
[07:04] <jhutchins> theea: sudo apt-get install kate
[07:04] <stdin> Nuked: if you see something like "Stopping ....." then it hangs you can see what's hanging.
[07:04] <Nuked> no
[07:04] <Nuked> just a black screen stdin
[07:05] <stdin> Nuked: do you see any messages on shutdown?
[07:05] <Nuked> nothing but a black screen.. it hangs there stdin
[07:05] <stdin> Nuked: hmm, what version of kubuntu do you have ?
[07:06] <Nuked> feisty 64 bit stdin
[07:06] <stdin> Nuked: how long does it hang for?
[07:06] <Nuked> indefinitely... I have to manually restart it stdin
[07:07] <theea> jhutchins - now is opend default sesion kate what i do
[07:07] <Nuked> stdin its only when I login or logout
[07:07] <jhutchins> theea: Do you see where it defines where your windows partition is?
[07:07] <Nuked> or related operations
[07:08] <theea> jhutchins - no
[07:08] <fakhrij> how from indonesia
[07:08] <Nuked> stdin I thought it was the kde login screens fault and gnomes
[07:08] <fakhrij> i can't speak english
[07:08] <stdin> Nuked: hmm, sounds strange
[07:08] <jhutchins> theea: Ah, click "Open session".
[07:08] <theea> ok
[07:09] <Nuked> stdin they both froze badly.. so I tried engage and I experience less login hangs but the same amount of logout hangs
[07:09] <stdin> !id | fakhrij
[07:09] <ubotu> fakhrij: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[07:09] <fakhrij> makasih mas....
[07:09] <theea> jhutchins - next step?
[07:10] <jhutchins> Now find that line where the ntfs partition mounts.
[07:10] <stdin> Nuked: I don't know what would cause that
[07:11] <Nuked> stdin I appreciate the help
[07:12] <theea> jhutchins - line or folder?
[07:13] <jhutchins> theea: If you are editing /etc/fstab with kate, you should have a number of lines listing devices and where and how they are to mount.
[07:14] <theea> jhutchins - on right side i have the tree with media folder and on right the line area is empty
[07:15] <jhutchins> theea: If you have a filesystem browser button on the left, click that and browse to /etc/fstab
[07:18] <theea> jhutchins - done
[07:19] <jhutchins> theea: Procede as above, the goal being to change the ntfs partition from ro to rw.
[07:21] <theea> jhutchins - you ment the fstab file yes?
[07:21] <jhutchins> theea: You are editing the fstab to change the line that defines the ntfs partiton.
[07:22] <CapaH> Is there anyone here who can tell me how I can get a 640x480 resolution to work on my LCD laptop monitor? Before I had ubuntu installed, I had windows, and it *worked fine* --- anyone?
[07:23] <CapaH> No matter what I do it *ALWAYS* goes to the native 1280x800 resolution
[07:23] <spawn57> CapaH: what have you tried so far?
[07:23] <MarcC> CapaH: can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[07:24] <MarcC> !pastebin > CapaH
[07:24] <Dou1> hmm background images confuse kubuntu i guess?
[07:24] <MarcC> Dou1: no, they don't
[07:25] <theea> jhutchins - if i edit the fstab file then what i should write in it because is empty
[07:25] <MarcC> 0_o
[07:25] <Dou1> i had an image in home/desktop made it my background, then moved it to home and selected it, and it doesn't work any more
[07:25] <CapaH> nm I got it --- all is set
[07:25] <jhutchins> theea: You've made at least one mistake along the way then.  Just close kate - do not save anything.
[07:26] <spawn57> CapH: lol happy to help
[07:26] <jhutchins> theea: Then try kdesu kate /etc/fstab again.
[07:27] <CapaH> What do I hit in order to type in the name of a program -- its like ctrl+alt+f1 or something... anyone?
[07:27] <MarcC> CapaH: depends on your keybindings...my system uses WinKey+R
[07:27] <Dou1> what do i do to get what i typed above with my background not registering fixed?
[07:28] <MarcC> CapaH: you mean to run a program?
[07:28] <BluesKaj> CapaH, alt+f2
[07:28] <theea> jhutchins - what means this ...UUID=53a756f5-385c-46d6-b6cf-0c101b70f0b2 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1
[07:28] <Dou1> ...
[07:29] <patrick__> Does anyone know irc server of ubuntustudio, please
[07:29] <MarcC> patrick__: /join #ubuntustudio?
[07:29] <MarcC> without the question mark, lol
[07:31] <jhutchins> theea: That is your main linux partition.
[07:32] <theea> jhutchins - on fstab i found info about floppy and cd only
[07:33] <pawel> Hejo polacy
[07:33] <jhutchins> theea: You said your windows partition mounts automatically but is read-only.  Where did you set that up?
[07:33] <ardchoille> fstab?
[07:34] <jhutchins> ardchoille: One would think so.
[07:34] <theea> jhutchins - in media i opend the partition and see the files and folders and when i tried to do something it said that it is readonly
[07:34] <jhutchins> ardchoille: So it looks like it's this whole automount thing.
[07:35] <ardchoille> jhutchins: Does his fstab have ro?
[07:35] <theea> jhutchins - when i try right click on that disk it say only unmount option
[07:35] <jhutchins> ardchoille: Says fstab only has cd & floppy.
[07:35] <jhutchins> theea: Try that, unmount it.
[07:35] <ardchoille> theea: Can you pastebn your /etc/fstab file?
[07:36] <ardchoille> !paste
[07:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:36] <theea> proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
[07:36] <theea> # Entry for /dev/hda2 :
[07:36] <theea> UUID=53a756f5-385c-46d6-b6cf-0c101b70f0b2 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1
[07:36] <theea> # Entry for /dev/hda5 :
[07:36] <theea> UUID=0494644e-27e0-4251-87bc-73196b6a9068 none swap sw 0 0
[07:36] <theea> /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
[07:36] <theea> /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0
[07:37] <CS5> I just wanted to say ty to all the people who helped me here in the last week, I am finally under a beautiful install with everything running beautifully. TY to anyone who is willing to help anyone with our sometimes simple, and some times very advanced troubleshooting and problem solving
[07:37] <ardchoille> theea: is it the /dev/hda2 entry?
[07:37] <jhutchins> theea: When you ran the ntfs-3g tool, did it list your windows partition and where it was mounted?
[07:38] <ardchoille> jhutchins: I'm thinking it's /de/hda2
[07:38] <ardchoille> and it hit an error somewhere so remounted ro
[07:38] <theea> jhutchins - no just to ckeck that it will work for external device
[07:38] <theea> the hda2 is the linux area for folders hda1 is windows
[07:38] <jhutchins> ardchoille: No, we're looking for a windows partition, which I suddenly suspect isn't NTFS after all.
[07:39] <ardchoille> Ah, ok
[07:39] <ardchoille> /dev/hda1 isn't in fstab?
[07:39] <theea> no
[07:39] <theea> :((
[07:39] <jhutchins> theea: do sudo fdisl -l and paste the output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[07:39] <jhutchins> theea: do sudo fdisk -l and paste the output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[07:40] <wonko_> huhu
[07:40] <jhutchins> not fdisl.
[07:40] <wonko_> do not use fdisl!!!
[07:40] <wonko_> it is dangerous
[07:40] <ardchoille> jhutchins: What happens if you run an NTFS tool on a non NTFS part?
[07:41] <jhutchins> ardchoille: Nothin.
[07:41] <theea> fdisk is not only for ntfs
[07:41] <CS5> wonko_ why is dangerous?
[07:41] <theea> is also for fat32
[07:41] <theea> it manages partitions
[07:41] <ardchoille> I was referring to the ntfs-3g tool
[07:41] <jhutchins> ardchoille: It won't even show a non-ntfs partition.
[07:42] <ardchoille> ok
[07:42] <CS5> wonko_: why is dangerous?
[07:42] <CS5> !fdisl
[07:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fdisl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:42] <theea> question if win syustem crushed and i dont know oit may appears like it does?
[07:42] <wonko_> CS5: it stands for dislocate
[07:42] <jhutchins> Actually, fdisl is pretty safe - seeing as it does't do anything.
[07:42] <jhutchins> theea: do sudo fdisk -l and paste the output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[07:42] <CS5> ic, ty
[07:43] <jhutchins> I think wonko is just trying to have some fun with us.
[07:43] <wonko_> oops
[07:44] <theea> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29818/
[07:44] <wonko_> sry, i thought i was in #nethack... it was of course a bad attempt at a joke
[07:44] <wonko_> didn't mean to confuse you
[07:44] <CS5> no worries, without you saying it, I wouldnt have questioned it.
[07:45] <CS5> Learn something everywhere.
[07:45] <theea> jhutchins - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29818/
[07:46] <ardchoille> wonko_: lol
[07:47] <ardchoille> jhutchins: his /dev/hda1 is present and is NTFS, but it doesn't seem to be in fstab so I'm wondering how it gets automounted
[07:47] <theea> ard god knows
[07:47] <jhutchins> ardchoille: All this fuse/hotplug/udev stuff probably.
[07:48] <ardchoille> oh, grrr
[07:48] <jhutchins> theea: I'm going to suggest that you reboot, then run the ntfs tool again and see if it sees the drive.
[07:48] <theea> ok see u after reboot. i must add that i may use windows using grub at startup
[07:49] <jhutchins> theea: You can't do anything to the linux system with windows, but that's fine with me, whatever.
[07:54] <sunmen> kto nibyd zdes po russki govorit
[07:54] <theea> jhutchins: now it opens i check hda1 but is asking <Click here to set a mount point>
[07:55] <term1n4l> Linux vaio 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Thu Jun 7 20:19:32 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:55] <jhutchins> theea: It's your computer, you decide where to mount it.  That was the problem.
[07:55] <sunmen> zdes kto nibud po russki govorit
[07:56] <theea> gimmie again where i can paste you the error message jhutchins
[07:57] <jhutchins> !pastebin
[07:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:58] <meuhlol> sunmen: da, no
[07:58] <meuhlol> !ru | sunmen
[07:58] <ubotu> sunmen:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[07:58] <theea> i must shut down clean windows then to mount that
[07:58] <theea> so brb
[08:04] <jl> g
[08:04] <jl> hola
[08:04] <jl> alguien me puede ayudar por favor
[08:04] <tsdgeos> !es
[08:04] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:04] <jl> gracias
[08:05] <term1n4l> Hello all, this is my first time here on this server. Is this a live support channel, or a canned response bot support channel?
[08:05] <tsdgeos> term1n4l: this is not a support channel per se
[08:05] <tsdgeos> it's a user channel
[08:05] <tsdgeos> and maybe someone wants to help you
[08:06] <term1n4l> oh ok cool
[08:06] <term1n4l> I was a bit currious. I'm kind of new to Linux and Ubuntu so I'm trying everything out.
[08:06] <jhutchins_lt> tsdgeos: Good answer.
[08:07] <tsdgeos> jhutchins_lt: ;-)
[08:08] <vzduch> currious?  what do you taste like? :D
[08:09] <term1n4l> are there any ongoing user channel discussions at the moment?
[08:09] <vzduch> about what?
[08:09] <term1n4l> I don't know, thats why I'm asking. =P
[08:09] <jhutchins_lt> term1n4l: Well, theea is working on getting a windows program installed, just got the windows partition to mount read/write.
[08:10] <jhutchins_lt> term1n4l: 'Cause right now it looks dead.
[08:10] <term1n4l> Oh, ok then, was wine not an option?
[08:10] <jhutchins_lt> An hour ago, there were five different discussions happening at once.
[08:10] <vzduch> I think I have read somewhere that it's not recommended to use files off a 'real' Windows installation in Wine
[08:10] <jhutchins_lt> term1n4l: Missing a DLL, so we got the windows partition mounted and are going to piont the wine config at that.
[08:10] <term1n4l> oh ok cool, so if i stick around, things can change rather abruptly?
[08:11] <term1n4l> oh, d/ling the dll wasn't working either?
[08:11] <jhutchins_lt> Yep
[08:11] <CS5> Oh yes...
[08:11] <CS5> ask and someone shall answer
[08:12] <sunmen> !??
[08:12] <sunmen> !ru
[08:12] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[08:12] <jhutchins_lt> vzduch: I have an old Windows 95 partition, and had Quicken installed on the server through that.  It won't boot any more - current hardware not supported - but I can still run that installation of quicken if I make /windows = C: in wine.
[08:12] <CS5> you can do that with wine?
[08:13] <jhutchins_lt> CS5: Well, clearly _I_ can...
[08:13] <CS5> I guess....lol
[08:13] <term1n4l> I was surprised at how much wine has evolved. I am now able to use macromedia flash on my linux machines.
[08:13] <jhutchins_lt> CS5: That was originally how you had to set it up.
[08:13] <jhutchins_lt> term1n4l: Yeah, but we have native flash in linux now too.
[08:13] <CS5> jhutchins_it: I still haven't used it.
[08:14] <term1n4l> sysfig right?
[08:14] <term1n4l> or synfig or something
[08:14] <jhutchins_lt> sysconfig
[08:14] <CS5> jhutchins_it: I've read alot about it, but I use linux for everything now, except my 3d games.
[08:14] <CS5> windows suffices for that
[08:14] <jhutchins_lt> or cfg.sys
[08:14] <jhutchins_lt> config.sys
[08:14] <term1n4l> i meant the 2d vector animation program in linux
[08:15] <Rug> CS5: lots of good games
[08:15] <jhutchins_lt> Yeah, I've just never transferred all the old data from Quicken.  I should probably just start from scratch, but I don't like gnucash.
[08:15] <vzduch> jhutchins_lt: how about KMyMoney?
[08:15] <CS5> rug: for linux you mean?
[08:15] <Rug> CS5: yupp
[08:15] <jhutchins_lt> haven't put the time in.
[08:15] <CS5> rug: any links to starting places for some?
[08:16] <CS5> rug: good ones....
[08:16] <Rug> CS5: funny.  It's all opinion.
[08:16] <sunmen> mojno vsego odin vopros v ubuntu-ru nikto ne znaet pochemo Konqueror otkazivaetsa zagrujat stranitsi
[08:16] <jhutchins_lt> Hello sunmen, do you speak english?
[08:16] <vzduch> sunmen: speak English here man
[08:17] <CS5> Yeah, true, like driver, first person shooters or anything?
[08:17] <sunmen> normal
[08:17] <Rug> CS5: start here - http://gaming.gwos.org/news.php
[08:17] <CS5> rug: ty
[08:17] <sunmen> hello people
[08:18] <CS5> there are language specific channels aren't there?
[08:18] <CS5> ah he speaks....
[08:18] <Rug> CS5: what you need?
[08:18] <theea> thank you jhutchins
[08:19] <vzduch> my Russian is a but rusty, to say the least.. looks like he wants to say that nobody in #ubuntu-ru was able to help him..
[08:19] <theea> and also to all others i finally made it
[08:19] <jhutchins_lt> theea: A fine little adventure.
[08:19] <CS5> rug: nothing specific at the moment, just checking out that site.
[08:20] <Rug> CS5: Enemy Territory, Padman, Nexuis, tremulous are all excellent FPS
[08:21] <tsdgeos> Penumbra looked cool here before it took my machine down :D
[08:21] <CS5> wow this thunder and lightning looks wicked
[08:21] <vzduch> !cs > vzduch
[08:21] <CS5> Rug: ty, nice start.
[08:21] <Rug> Quake Ware will rock
[08:21] <Rug> wars
[08:21] <term1n4l> Rug: thanks man, that is an awsome site.
[08:21] <Rug> np
[08:22] <sunmen> people who know why konqueror refuse load web-page?
[08:23] <vzduch> sunmen: what page?
[08:23] <CS5> Rug: I dont even need wine for these, eh?
[08:23] <CS5> Wicked
[08:23] <Rug> CS5: nope
[08:24] <CS5> Rug: Ty so much.
[08:24] <CS5> BYE BYE WINDOWS......HAHAHAHAHAHAH
[08:24] <Rug> You are welcome.  I didn't create the page.
[08:24] <CS5> no but you enlightened me.
[08:24] <sunmen> web-page
[08:24] <Rug> CS5: a fast d'load link for some of those is my mirror:   o2kewl.net
[08:24] <theea> jhutchins: there is a chanel for romanians that use ubuntu?
[08:25] <vzduch> !ro
[08:25] <ubotu> Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro
[08:25] <CS5> rug: i didnt think linux had much in the way of 'games', i was misinformed, big time
[08:25] <theea> thankx folks
[08:25] <Rug> CS5: It's getting better bery quickly
[08:25] <Rug> very*
[08:25] <jl> f
[08:26] <Rug> I can type better whne I am not watching a movie
[08:26] <nosrednaekim> CS5: yeah, I love flightgear... its amazing
[08:26] <CS5> rug: np, i am reading tons of these and downloading like a madman
[08:27] <Rug> CS5: enjoy.   What kind of game do you enjoy the most?
[08:27] <vzduch> sunmen: which webpage are you trying to load w/ Konqueror?
[08:28] <CS5> rug: i was really into Halo for a while.
[08:28] <CS5> rug: need for speed and such, i Love helicopter sims.
[08:28] <CS5> i have some good ones for apache sims on win.
[08:28] <nosrednaekim> wine can run some of those...
[08:28] <vlt> Hello. I've installed Kubuntu 7.0.4, and sometimes Konqueror can't access some sites (or even localhost) while curl or elinks work fine. What could be a reason for this behavior?
[08:29] <nosrednaekim> I've heard things about comache3 I think its called
[08:29] <CS5> i can mount them where they sit and run them in wine?
[08:29] <Rug> CS5: Then ET is the game for you.  If you like RPGs' I suggest you play NeverWinterNights You can buy it in the bargin bins for like $5 and it plays better on Linux then it ever did on Windows.
[08:29] <nosrednaekim> vlt: knetowrkmanager is probably telling it you are not connected
[08:29] <CS5> rug: nice....
[08:29] <CS5> :) da da da dah dah, im lovin it
[08:29] <Sloik> Goodbye.
[08:29] <Sloik> Oh Wait
[08:29] <DaSkreech> Does Kubuntu ship with Support for UPS?
[08:30] <Sloik> Do all USB Hard Drive enclosures work with Linux fairly well?
[08:30] <DaSkreech> The enclosures?
[08:30] <DaSkreech> Yeah I 'd guess so
[08:30] <term1n4l> sloik: I have had a problem with a patriot usb 1 gig stick i have, but thats the only one
[08:30] <DaSkreech>  I haven't heard of a case that Linux won't run om
[08:31] <Sloik> OK, cool.
[08:31] <Sloik> I'm thinking about buying one later today.
[08:31] <Sloik> Putting a Fat32 HD in it, so it should work alright?
[08:31] <hero> yeah
[08:31] <vlt> nosrednaekim: hmmm, yes, knetworkmanager is running and in offline mode. How can I use Konqueror even then?
[08:32] <nosrednaekim> I forget... do you ever use knetworkmanager?
[08:32] <nosrednaekim> DaSkreech: yes, it does
[08:32] <DaSkreech> nosrednaekim: Ok I think that mine is screwing up
[08:33] <DaSkreech> `When the UPS kicks in My computer shuts down
[08:33] <vlt> nosrednaekim: Yes, for connecting to wifi.
[08:33] <nosrednaekim> vlt: put it in ethernet mode.
[08:33] <Sloik> Goodbye.
[08:33] <nosrednaekim> DaSkreech: hmm.... I forget how to change that setting.
[08:33] <sunmen> vzduch: /usr/share/apps/gwenview
[08:33] <nosrednaekim> its a config tool...
[08:34] <vlt> nosrednaekim: I'll try ... thank you.
[08:34] <DaSkreech> Well I guess I need to learn how to interrupt shutdown
[08:35] <vzduch> sunmen: there's no website in there
[08:35] <nosrednaekim> DaSkreech: did you get "apcupsd"?
[08:36] <Anarch> My kubuntu has no ssh-askpass.
[08:36] <malik__> which p2p client is better?
[08:36] <Anarch> What command can I use to query the location of an uninstalled executable like ssh-askpass?
[08:36] <vzduch> malik__: you haven't named any yet, so we can't tell
[08:37] <stdin> Anarch: apt-cache search
[08:37] <Anarch> stdin: Thanks, trying it.
[08:37] <malik__> vzduch: mldonkey, emule, edonkey, imesh etc
[08:37] <stdin> Anarch: or search in apt:/ in konqueror, or even in http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[08:38] <imran> how do i install nvidia drivers on my kubuntu system? There doesn't seem to be that restricted drivers application...
[08:38] <vzduch> malik__: no idea.. I don't use mule clients
[08:39] <vzduch> imran: sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx (or -glx-new for top-notch cards (see aptitude show nvidia-glx-new for clues as to which cards run on that one) or -glx-legacy for old cards)
[08:39] <malik__> vzduch: what abt azureus?....is it just bittorent o it can get stuff from other networks?
[08:40] <imran> vzduch: thanks, is there no restricted drivers manager?
[08:40] <vzduch> the Azureus homepage should be able to tell you that.. for torrents I use KTorrent
[08:40] <vzduch> imran: don't know, never used a manager for that
[08:40] <nosrednaekim> imran: in kubutnu you can install the restricted drivers app
[08:41] <imran> nosrednaekim: ah ok, i was just wondering if it came installed...
[08:41] <nosrednaekim> imran: they are working on a KDE version.
[08:43] <persen_> I get Grub loading, please wait... \n Error 18
[08:44] <persen_> Think it has to do with my board doesnt handle my large disk (250 gb). Any clues?
[08:44] <vzduch> persen_: Grub has problems booting from partitions that are behind the 128 GB limit
[08:45] <persen_> ok, i partitioned a 50gb partition i used to install it on.
[08:45] <vzduch> at least it had when I last tried
[08:45] <persen_> What can i do now? Reinstall ?
[08:46] <vzduch> persen_: it's not about the size, it's about the position on the disk
[08:46] <persen_> ok
[08:46] <vzduch> you can either reformat so that the partition starts before the 128 GB mark or use LILO, which reportedly can boot partitions in the back of a HDD
[08:47] <persen_> Is the switch to LILO easy ?
[08:48] <vzduch> no idea.. the times I tried to use LILO back in those days it wouldn't boot from my 2nd HDD (2003)
[08:48] <vzduch> never tried LILO again
[08:48] <vzduch> !lilo
[08:48] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[08:51] <persen_> "The easiset way is to create a small 'boot' partition (only a few meg needed) at the beginning of the disk. " '
[08:51] <persen_> Think ill just test that first
[08:52] <vzduch> "a few meg" is a little bit of an understatement.. in my experience you need at least 160-something MB
[08:53] <ARM9> Now I have my Kubuntu-desktop pretty much set up as I want it. :)
[08:54] <persen_> ARM9, goodluck
[08:55] <PhinnFort> how can I burn an .img file created with iDVD in OS X?
[08:55] <persen_> as soon as you deviate from factory settings youre on your own ;)
[08:55] <PhinnFort> according to file: ".img: UDF filesystem data (version 1.5)"
[08:55] <ARM9> But there's still one thing I'm bothered about.. Nothing major, but I have KDM as default and I still have the GNOME skins and backgrounds etc.
[08:56] <PhinnFort> I'll just try with k3b
[08:56] <CS5> !autopackage
[08:57] <PhinnFort> autopackage = evul d00my p4in
[08:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about autopackage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:57] <vzduch> wth is autopackage?
[08:57] <vzduch> !info autopackage
[08:57] <ubotu> Package autopackage does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:58] <PhinnFort> vzduch: it's s stupid thing they tried to imitate setup files on windows
[08:58] <PhinnFort> vzduch: some quite smart, but the concept is really crappy, imho
[08:58] <vzduch> *omfg*
[08:58] <PhinnFort> when we already have superior package management
[08:58] <CS5> I just got some games and the first one i run across is in an Autopackage, i am confused too
[08:58] <CS5> lol
[08:58] <PhinnFort> CS5: which game?
[08:59] <PhinnFort> CS5: rather try to find a .deb somewhere, or file a bug asking for one
[08:59] <CS5> Thunder and lightning
[09:00] <PhinnFort> I can even whip up a .deb for you if it's a standard ./configure&&make&&make install
[09:01] <CS5> phinnfort: if i get the tar and unpack it do you know how i could start it?
[09:01] <CS5> they have no documentation at all that helps me.
[09:02] <PhinnFort> CS5: if it's already compiled, look for a gear-iconed file, and double click on it
[09:02] <PhinnFort> brb, just running down with a dvd
[09:02] <CS5> phinfort: ty
[09:03] <CS5> Phinnfort, found it, a text file executable..
[09:03] <CS5> brb, too
[09:08] <vzduch> CS5: looks like you just unpack & run it
[09:10] <pokemonchyk-1>     ?
[09:10] <vzduch> !ru | pokemonchyk-1
[09:10] <ubotu> pokemonchyk-1:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[09:10] <CS5> yes, it didn't work though it returned 0 and closed, i must be missing something.
[09:10] <waylandbill> CS5 maybe some prerequisite library
[09:11] <CS5> yes, i think so, there is 1 that it said i need but I cannot find it in the repositories.
[09:11] <vzduch> the page says it requires OpenAL.. whatever that is
[09:11] <CS5> i hear ya....
[09:12] <CS5> or open gl i think would work.
[09:12] <CS5> says al is statically linked....
[09:13] <vzduch> Open Audio Library
[09:13] <vzduch> looks like you'd need libopenal0a and/or libopenal-dev
[09:14] <ARM9> What the hell
[09:14] <vzduch> ARM9: ?
[09:14] <ARM9> Wait.. Maybe javascript is turned off...
[09:14] <ARM9> ehhh
[09:15] <ARM9> Javascript is on, but still it doesn't do anything in konqueror. :S
[09:15] <CS5> arm9, do you need konqueror, can you not use opera? or firefox?
[09:16] <ARM9> No I don't need konqueror but I still find it strange that it doesn't even support the simplest of javascript. :S
[09:16] <CS5> yes, same with torrents, it just doesnt handle things well ive found
[09:16] <ARM9> Ye...
[09:17] <CS5> vzduch: so i instal libopenal0a and i should be good?
[09:17] <vzduch> at least it wouldn't hurt to try :>
[09:18] <CS5> true
[09:23] <CS5> anyone ever hear of libsigc++
[09:27] <CS5> vzduch: do you know how i can use the .package instead?
[09:27] <CS5> or anyone really....
[09:27] <vzduch> CS5: I have no idea
[09:28] <CS5> vzduch: ty anyway. I am still reading faq's so i'll get it, eventually....lol
[09:28] <michael__> what is a good image editor?
[09:28] <michael__> besiders gimp
[09:29] <dictator> krita
[09:31] <jan__> hi! in the gutsy-repos are kde4 3.91 packages. how can i install these alpha2-packages? or which packages should i install?
[09:31] <jan__> or compile from svn?
[09:33] <RoEn_> moin
[09:33] <novice> hi RoEn
[09:34] <bjwebb> hi
[09:34] <novice> hi bjwebb
[09:34] <bjwebb> can someone helop with a problem im having with my internet
[09:35] <novice> what is it?
[09:35] <bjwebb> well i put in on lq a while ago
[09:35] <bjwebb> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=562951
[09:35] <bjwebb> save me explaining again
[09:35] <bjwebb> eciadsl doesn't set up the route table properly i think - some applications work but others don't
[09:37] <d1kt4t0r> @bjwebb : you have to disable KNetworkManager
[09:37] <bjwebb> oh rite
[09:37] <bjwebb> d1kt4t0r: thanx, but how do i do that?
[09:37] <d1kt4t0r> in your system tray, right click on the network manager icon, exit it
[09:37] <d1kt4t0r> and say not to start the next time
[09:38] <d1kt4t0r> konqueror and kde apps work then. i had the same problem with it not picking up dial up
[09:38] <bjwebb> ah rite
[09:38] <flake> I have a couple of mounted harddrives displaying on my desktop, but I don't see them in the terminal when doing ls.  can I make a 'mount point' to them so I can read them from a remote connection?
[09:38] <bjwebb> i thought it would be sometyhing quite simple, i just didn't know what
[09:39] <d1kt4t0r> @flake, there is a mount point... it's probably in /media/
[09:39] <bjwebb> hey it works!
[09:39] <bjwebb> thanks
[09:39] <d1kt4t0r> you can have it appear in your home directory, the one which comes up when you do 'ls' the first thing in the terminal
[09:39] <d1kt4t0r> sure thing bjwebb
[09:41] <novice> @d1kt4t0r r  u 0n3 0f th3m |_33t guy5 ?
[09:42] <d1kt4t0r> lol. no way. just fond of haxxor
[09:42] <novice> ic
[09:42] <novice> funny nick though
[09:46] <persen_> vzduch, so i should add a 160 mb boot partition in the first sectors of the disk then?
[09:46] <persen_> about to reinstall now.
[09:46] <vzduch> persen_: at least.. I have 256, I thought it can't hurt to have a little more :)
[09:47] <persen_> yeah :)
[09:47] <vzduch> persen_: and while you're at it, make a separate /home partition.. easier for backup/reinstall
[09:47] <persen_> clever
[09:47] <persen_> and a partition for music/movies
[09:48] <persen_> should the boot partition be: ext3 primary?
[09:50] <vzduch> ext3 is never wrong, primary makes sense for a boot partition
[09:50] <persen_> what about mount point? Leave it empty?
[09:51] <fdoving>      that would be /boot for the boot partition
[09:51] <stdin> persen_: if it's just the boot partition, then /boot, if it's the root partition then /
[09:53] <Timppa> I'm randomly losing internet connection, anyone have any clues what could be the reason?
[09:55] <Timppa> it's very annoying when trying to use some apps that need internet connection
[09:55] <Timppa> they won't even start or hang
[09:56] <persen_> Timppa, probably your ISP or some bad wireless router/accesspoint if youre using that.
[09:56] <persen_> had my share of those problems
[09:57] <Timppa> this problem has appeared after I installed Kubuntu yesterday, before that no problems and my sis is on another computer using win xp so I doubt it
[09:57] <CS5> vzduch: here's the autopackage stuff if your interested. http://autopackage.org/docs/howto-install/?PHPSESSID=8b0ecbe808b40b3fc660c13810280887
[10:02] <DJFC> hi@all
[10:02] <DJFC> kann mir jmd helfen? mein kubuntu startet nich mehr richtig
[10:04] <hero> !de > DJFC
[10:04] <CS5> hero: that send a botlink to someone specific when you do that?
[10:05] <PhinnFort> Timppa: can you paste dmesg or something?
[10:05] <hero> yes, but don't abuse it!
[10:05] <PhinnFort> CS5: ubotu sends a private msg, without displaying it in a channel
[10:05] <hero> and it looks like it worked
[10:05] <hero> cool
[10:06] <CS5> kewl
[10:06] <CS5> yes
[10:06] <PhinnFort> !botsnack > CS5
[10:06] <PhinnFort> that was typical abuse, don't do that;)
[10:07] <CS5> What was abuse?
[10:07] <CS5> lol
[10:07] <CS5> I see it....
[10:07] <PhinnFort> CS5: spamming others with useless info;)
[10:08] <CS5> That is true, I am well versed in IRC, been using it for years
[10:08] <CS5> I love it.
[10:09] <PhinnFort> I tried using netcat once
[10:09] <PhinnFort> no good
[10:09] <Anarch> o
[10:09] <Timppa> PhinnFort: http://pastebin.com/d228da474
[10:09] <PhinnFort> it was mainly for writing an irc bot to temporary replace ubotu, but oh well
[10:10] <CS5> I have a nice one on windows, winbot. he is VERY cutomizable.
[10:10] <vlt> Hello. How can i stop knetworkmanager from deleting eth0's ip address when plugging a network cable in/out?
[10:10] <CS5> I'd like to find a good one for linux.
[10:10] <CS5> or maybe use wine for him or something
[10:10] <PhinnFort> Timppa: wired?
[10:10] <waylandbill> PhinnFort: all you need to do is make a straight tcp client that parses commands. IRC is line based. That's too easy to implement :-)
[10:10] <PhinnFort> CS5: try to find out what ubotu is, it's a rather versatile bot customized for ubuntu
[10:11] <PhinnFort> waylandbill: I know that now;)
[10:11] <CS5> Oh yes? I thought it was just his nick
[10:11] <Timppa> yep
[10:11] <PhinnFort> CS5: it's just a nick, but his name is something else
[10:11] <Timppa> I haven't configured wireless yet
[10:11] <PhinnFort> waylandbill: but channel handling isn't straight forward
[10:12] <PhinnFort> Timppa: it seems somehow the media link goes down
[10:12] <PhinnFort> Timppa: is the cable secured properly?
[10:12] <waylandbill> PhinnFort: I thought it was since the channel was the first argument.
[10:13] <PhinnFort> waylandbill: let me rephrase, it wasn't so straightforward I could make a bot without trying to chat manually with netcat
[10:14] <PhinnFort> !version
[10:14] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[10:14] <PhinnFort> !owner
[10:14] <ubotu> This bot is owned & operated by Seveas. For questions/requests/comments, join #ubuntu-bots
[10:14] <waylandbill> PhinnFort: oh. I just followed the RFC, but I guess whe're going off topic a touch. :-)
[10:14] <PhinnFort> yeah;)
[10:14] <persen_> vzduch, yay, that worked!
[10:14] <PhinnFort> waylandbill: I looked at the rfc, afterwards
[10:15] <vzduch> persen_: glad to hear :)
[10:15] <waylandbill> !shell
[10:15] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[10:16] <PhinnFort> CS5: ubotu is supybot
[10:16] <PhinnFort> http://supybot.com/
[10:16] <PhinnFort> btw
[10:18] <gareth> anyone know why i can open normal CD's but not CDR's on my laptop??
[10:18] <kristjan_> aren't cdr's empty?
[10:18] <gareth> its a CD R/W / DVD drive
[10:19] <gareth> and no the CDR's have music on them
[10:19] <gareth> and i can use them on my windows pc
[10:19] <PhinnFort> gareth: not all cd-rom drives support cd-r's
[10:20] <kristjan_> create a bug report in launchpad then? (since it's hardware issue)
[10:20] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> gareth: How old is the laptop?
[10:20] <gareth> about 2 years
[10:20] <PhinnFort> kristjan_: if it's a problem with his hardware, he shouldn't file a bug
[10:20] <PhinnFort> gareth: have you tried opening in windows on the same machine?
[10:20] <gareth> well i can open noraml CD's ok
[10:21] <gareth> so its probably not hardware
[10:21] <kristjan_> PhinnFort: why not?
[10:21] <PhinnFort> [22:19]  <PhinnFort> gareth: not all cd-rom drives support cd-r's
[10:21] <gareth> this laptop does not have windows on it
[10:21] <PhinnFort> kristjan_: because it's nothing the ubuntu devs can do about faulty hardware (in this case, at least)
[10:21] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> If it's only 2 years old, then I'd suspect that CD-R\Ws would work. Anything older than 4 years might not, but 2...
[10:21] <gareth> this one can phinn, its a CD R/W / DVD R combo drive
[10:22] <PhinnFort> gareth: can you try inserting a cd-r, and mounting, and then paste the output of "dmesg" in a console?
[10:22] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !pastebin
[10:22] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:22] <waylandbill> cd's could be written with different methods SAO, TAO, DAO, can be left open for appending... not all drives support all modes.
[10:22] <PhinnFort> *paste the output from running "dmesg" in a console on a pastebin
[10:23] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> ^ before PhinnFort
[10:23] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> forgets*
[10:23] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Stupid keyboard. If only I could find my USB board...
[10:23] <PhinnFort> hehe
[10:23] <PhinnFort> I can't find my mouse after I moved...
[10:24] <waylandbill> make a 1:1 copy of a "normal" cd on a cd-r and see if that works just fine and if it does, note all the details used to create the cd.
[10:24] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> PhinnFort: That's why I keep mine in my laptop case when I'm not using it.
[10:24] <PhinnFort> so now a I have a ball-tracking ps2-mouse
[10:24] <PhinnFort> it kind of sucks
[10:24] <PhinnFort> WhtWolfTeraDyne: it's a stationary
[10:24] <PhinnFort> (planning to buy a laptop really soon)
[10:25] <ADiCT3D> Ball mice need to be outlawed
[10:25] <PhinnFort> yeah;)
[10:25] <PhinnFort> it isn't all that bad, just _very_ annoying when it doesn't work
[10:25] <PhinnFort> ;D
[10:26] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> ADiCT3D: I have a trackball here somewhere. Useful for small spaces.
[10:26] <ADiCT3D> I use a trackball Logitech Wireless one lovin' it.
[10:26] <gareth> hmm maybe it is my drive :( dmesg is frowing up a bunch of errors
[10:26] <PhinnFort> gareth: pasty?
[10:26] <gareth> [10053.940000]  sr0: CDROM (ioctl) error, command: <6>Read TOC/PMA/ATIP 43 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0c 00
[10:26] <gareth> [10053.940000]  sr: Current: sense key: Hardware Error
[10:26] <gareth> [10053.940000]      Additional sense: Focus servo failure
[10:26] <gareth> [10053.956000]  sr0: CDROM (ioctl) error, command: <6>Test Unit Ready 00 00 00 00
[10:27] <PhinnFort> gareth: ouch
[10:27] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> frowing? It's putting up afros?
[10:27] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Drive is dying...
[10:27] <jthomas> !automatix
[10:27] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:27] <PhinnFort> gareth: looks like the drive might be trying to die
[10:27] <gareth> boo
[10:27] <ARM9> Why isn't Kwrite showing up in any menu and not even in the menu manager??
[10:27] <PhinnFort> jthomas: what do you want installed?
[10:27] <PhinnFort> ARM9: because the maintainers found it useless
[10:27] <PhinnFort> ARM9: I don't think it's installed anymore
[10:28] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> ARM9: Kwrite doesn't show up in any menu. It's only accessable via the Run Command or terminal
[10:28] <gareth> well i have 6GB of music on a windows PC i want transfered over
[10:29] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> PhinnFort: It's installed, but only useable via Run or a term.
[10:29] <PhinnFort> oh ,ok
[10:29] <PhinnFort> like kcontrol, then
[10:29] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> PhinnFort: Essentially.
[10:43] <Timppa> ok.. let's assume I have a broken cable and that is causing my internet to randomly disconnect
[10:43] <Rug> ok I can play the assumtion game
[10:44] <Timppa> now if I try to connect to my wireless router, the progress bar stops at 20% "configuring device" and nothing else happens
[10:44] <Timppa> 28%
[10:45] <Rug> Do you just have 1 PC?
[10:45] <Timppa> I have another one which is plugged to the router with a cable
[10:46] <Rug> swap the cable around to find out if one is bad.   You could also have them start pinging each other, once one gets a longer or no reply you found tha bad cable
[10:47] <Rug> PhinnFort: why do you want t tablet?  what is the big-deal with them?
[10:49] <Timppa> obviously if something is wrong with the cable it's with the one connected to this computer, there is no porblems whatsoever with the other computer.
[10:50] <Timppa> but if I wanted to use the wireless connection, what could I do to get it work?
[10:56] <sam123> what is the total installed size of ubuntu feisty fawn?
[10:57] <sam123> and amount of maintainers
[10:57] <sam123> and compressed size
[10:57] <sam123> and amount of packages
[11:00] <Dannilion> why can I use the internet for everything except for browsing? This makes no sense!
[11:03] <Dannilion> Okay, I can browse using w3m. It's just Konqueror that won't let me. Typical.
[11:03] <sam123> Dannilion make sure that your firewall isnt blocking outbound connections on port 80
[11:03] <sam123> Dannilion ok nvm my last message
[11:03] <sam123> Dannilion why not use firefox or iceweasel?
[11:03] <Dannilion> What firewall? :p
[11:03] <runlevelten> what problem is konqy giving you that w3m isn't Dannilion?
[11:04] <Dannilion> konqueror is saying "Could not connect to host http://www.google.co.uk"
[11:05] <runlevelten> and other browsers can, yeah?
[11:05] <Dannilion> IRC, ping, wget, w3m, and everything else internet related I could think of trying is working
[11:05] <Dannilion> I haven't installed Firefox yet
[11:05] <sam123> sudo apt-get install firefox
[11:05] <sam123> problem solved
[11:05] <runlevelten> ...and everything resolves hostnames I assume, so it's not DNS
[11:05] <Dannilion> I know how, but that takes a while :p
[11:06] <Dannilion> yup
[11:06] <runlevelten> sam123: problem not even vaguely addressed :)
[11:06] <runlevelten> heh
[11:06] <sam123> why would anybody use konqueror anyway?
[11:06] <Dannilion> Because it comes as default? This is a clean install of feisty :p
[11:07] <sam123> surely feisty should have firefox with it?
[11:07] <sam123> everybody is used to firefox
[11:07] <Dannilion> not on Kubuntu
[11:07] <Dannilion> about 9 minutes until it's downloaded
[11:07] <sam123> thats just silly
[11:07] <runlevelten> konqueror is excellent. flaming konqueror instead of looking at the problem is completely counter-productive
[11:07] <Dannilion> I'm actually used to Konqueror
[11:08] <sam123> konqueror dosent have the features that keep up my productivity
[11:08] <runlevelten> I like konqueror also. Best font rendering on Linux imo
[11:08] <persen_> to administer my kubuntu box remotely grapchically, what programs do you recommend?
[11:08] <Dannilion> I use sftp a lot, Konqueror can handle it, without having to open another program
[11:08] <persen_> vpn comes in  alot of flavours iirc
[11:08] <runlevelten> anyway, have you checked proxy settings aren't set, and tried disabling caching?
[11:08] <Dannilion> Checked proxy, will try disabling caching now
[11:09] <axos88_> Hi! can anyone help me set up a 4965 wless card?
[11:09] <Dannilion> thanks- looks like it was the cache :)
[11:09] <sam123> I cant wait for Gutsy. Compiz fusion is going to be great. ive tried it out on feisty but now i want to reinstall ubuntu because i changed my sources.list and now ive got lots of unofficial and possibly malicious packages :(
[11:10] <runlevelten> Excellent stuff :)
[11:10] <Dannilion> I have Gutsy on my desktop. I haven't tried Compiz fusion on it yet though
[11:10] <sam123> i may try gutsy tonight
[11:11] <sam123> Dannilion noticed any bugs?
[11:11] <Dannilion> apt broke, xine broke for a bit, a couple of other things...
[11:11] <Dannilion> not sure how much is fixed yet- not booted into it for a couple of days
[11:11] <sam123> omg apt broke? wouldnt that make the system useless?
[11:12] <Dannilion> funnily enough, not quite
[11:12] <Dannilion> aptitude stopped working totally, apt-get was just very fussy
[11:13] <Dannilion> now I just have the graphics problem to fix. I can either have it so games are playable, or I can have it at the correct resolution. I don't seem to be able to do both on this laptop.
[11:14] <runlevelten> I've had some freaking amazing apt breakages on Debian Unstable :)
[11:14] <Dannilion> :)
[11:14] <sam123> dont use debian unstable then!
[11:14] <Dannilion> I bet
[11:14] <vamp898> from where can i get the Standart Kubuntu Design?
[11:14] <runlevelten> sam123: why not? Debian Unstable is teh rox0r.
[11:14] <Dannilion> Some of us like fixing broken stuff
[11:15] <sam123> Debian is meant to be a stable system for people who want a stable os
[11:15] <runlevelten> sam123: That's a common misconception.
[11:15] <Dannilion> except when we've downloaded a stable version of the OS because we don't want to be fixing broken stuff on two PCs :p
[11:15] <runlevelten> The "Stable" and "Unstable" don't refer to the stability of the OS, they refer to how settled the packages on the platform are
[11:16] <vamp898> when you install Kubuntu 7.04 fresh you have an preinstalled Style. i want them back, from where can i get him?
[11:17] <sam123> sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-default-settings and then sudo apt-get install kubuntu-default-settings
[11:17] <sam123> that should reinstall the kubuntu default settings
[11:17] <sam123> unless its a useless meta package
[11:18] <runlevelten> vamp898: you want to reset your look and feel?
[11:19] <Dannilion> understandable. He left rather quickly.
[11:19] <sam-brb> lol
[11:19] <sam123> /leave slowly
[11:20] <runlevelten> ah
[11:20] <runlevelten> vamp898: you want to reset your look and feel?
[11:20] <sam123> i was expecting my command to actually do something
[11:20] <vamp898> what do you mean?
[11:21] <sam123> i thought /leave makes me leave
[11:21] <sam123> but it does not
[11:21] <Dannilion> nope
[11:21] <sam123> /leave
[11:21] <sam123> damnit
[11:21] <Dannilion> I think /quit does though
[11:21] <vamp898> i installed an stupid design and wanted the old kubuntu design back
[11:22] <sam123> vamp898 type kwin--replace to bring back your kwin window manager
[11:22] <sam123> kwin --replace*
[11:22] <runlevelten> if you wanted to, you could just put back everything manually.
[11:22] <sam123> starting with your window manager
[11:23] <runlevelten> or, you can move your .kde folder which will return it to default
[11:23] <sam123> ive just terminated kwin and noq im not using a window manager!
[11:23] <runlevelten> then copy your app stuff (kmail, etc.) back into it.
[11:24] <vamp898> does anyone of you uses the standart Kubuntu theme right now?
[11:24] <Dannilion> It's always the largest update to download
[11:25] <runlevelten> OOo = blessing/curse
[11:25] <Dannilion> yeah
[11:26] <Dannilion> I do use OOo on Windoze though
[11:26] <vamp898> is nobody here using the standart theme of Kubuntu?
[11:27] <vamp898> http://pastebin.ca/618280
[11:28] <Dannilion> I am until for now
[11:28] <Dannilion> soon it will be purple again, with Tux instead of the blue L
[11:28] <Dannilion> *K
[11:28] <sam123> is there anyway to do a base installation (without gui and all the other apps)
[11:29] <vamp898> yes there is one way
[11:29] <vamp898> debian
[11:29] <vamp898> net install
[11:29] <sam123> vamp898 so there isnt a way to do it for ubuntu?
[11:29] <vamp898> ubuntu = preconfigured debian
[11:30] <sam123> i guess im going to have to leave ubuntu behind :(
[11:30] <sam123> but i dont want to
[11:30] <sam123> but i dont want installed most of the stuff that gets installed. such as amarok and openoffice
[11:31] <vamp898> whats wrong with the gui?
[11:31] <sam123> vamp898 nothing i suppose but i allways prefer to build from scratch
[11:31] <sam123> so i only have what i need
[11:32] <vamp898> remove the packages that you dont want
[11:32] <Sanne> sam123: you should find this helpful: http://jucato.org/kde/kde-core.html
[11:32] <sam123> alternate cd should do the job then?
[11:33] <Sanne> sam123: I guess so, it has more options
[11:34] <vamp898> with the design manager of KDE you can export your aktual design. When somebody uses the standart Kubuntu Design and export the theme, i would be thankfully^^
[11:34] <sam123> Sanne this is perfect thanks!
[11:34] <Sanne> sam123: you're welcome :)
[11:35] <sam123> instructions to installing kubuntu the right way
[11:35] <vamp898> in which file is saved which theme im using atm?
[11:35] <Sanne> sam123: this is also nice: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde-core
[11:38] <ubuntu__> 
[11:38] <vamp898> it should be somwhere in ~/.kde
[11:38] <ubuntu__>       ,)
[11:38] <ubuntu__>    
[11:38] <vamp898> english please
[11:38] <ubuntu__>   
[11:38] <vamp898> !ger
[11:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ger - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:39] <vamp898> !deutsch
[11:39] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:39] <Sanne> !ru
[11:39] <mac_> heya i have a probelm, i have an ibook g4 with an ATI video... some one have the driver ??
[11:39] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[11:39] <vamp898> yes
[11:39] <ubuntu__> no
[11:39] <ubuntu__> gg
[11:39] <vamp898> Adept have the driver
[11:39] <Sanne> vamp898: what makes you think it's german? heh
[11:39] <mac_> can u send me a link ?
[11:39] <runlevelten> alt F2 and type restricted-manager
[11:39] <ubuntu__> i am dummer
[11:39] <runlevelten> that will let you install the closed source ati drivers
[11:39] <vamp898> no im german and want the german kubuntu rooom^^
[11:40] <mac_> thanke i will see
[11:40] <Sanne> vamp898: ah! I thought you told ubuntu__ where to go hehe
[11:41] <vamp898> ^^
[11:41] <kubuntu> Hallo
[11:41] <mac_> heya... says your haRDWARE dont need privative controlers
[11:42] <mac_> its looking for nvidia drivers i think ...
[11:42] <keitare> i am having trobule getting my wifi card to work
[11:42] <vamp898> do you have the windows driver of you card?
[11:42] <kubuntu> who can i enter a german channel?
[11:42] <vamp898> !deutsch
[11:42] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:42] <mac_> heya... says your haRDWARE dont need privative controlers
[11:42] <vamp898> da kannst du in den deutschen channel ;)
[11:42] <keitare> i followed this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/LinksysWPC54GS-UK
[11:43] <keitare> and now the wireless networks show up
[11:43] <kubuntu> thank you
[11:43] <vamp898> do you have the windows driver of your wifi card?
[11:43] <keitare> it just never goes past determining the ip
[11:43] <keitare> no
[11:43] <runlevelten> privative controlers?
[11:43] <Dannilion> do you have DHCP available?
[11:44] <Dannilion> I don't, and it means that I need to manually set the IP address of my wireless connection
[11:44] <keitare> yes
[11:44] <mac_> how i install an .run
[11:44] <runlevelten> DHCP is pointless frivolity for a small network, heh
[11:44] <keitare> i didn't have to set an ip in xp
[11:45] <runlevelten> mac_: don't use the .run
[11:45] <Dannilion> It can make things easier though
[11:45] <mac_> what i need to use_
[11:45] <mac_> ??
[11:46] <raylu> to do what?
[11:46] <runlevelten> Do you have a ppc machine mac_?
[11:46] <mac_> yes
[11:46] <mac_> yes i have a ppc
[11:48] <[KaMuii] > i need the ati drivers for a MAC PPC ibook G4
[11:48] <[KaMuii] > someone can helpme_??
[11:48] <runlevelten> the proprietary ati drivers for linux are not built for PPC as far as I'm aware
[11:48] <[KaMuii] > i need to configure the XORG.CONF then
[11:48] <[KaMuii] > someone have one working ??
[11:49] <runlevelten> Someone correct me if I'm wrong on this one, but as far as I'm aware the closest drivers are Linux x86, Linux x86_64 or OS X
[11:49] <runlevelten> obviously a ppc isn't an x86 or an x86_64 :)
[11:49] <[KaMuii] > YeS thats right i know that... .but some ppc...runs 3d acceleration
[11:50] <[KaMuii] > i have ubuntu... now i want BERYL xD
[11:50] <runlevelten> with the open source drivers I believe
[11:50] <[KaMuii] > helpme ... how i install the open source drivers??
[11:50] <runlevelten> I use the open source radeon drivers for beryl, ymmv
[11:50] <[KaMuii] > have a res ??
[11:50] <[KaMuii] > where i found it?
[11:50] <BluesKaj> never heard of the fglrx drivers on a mac
[11:51] <[KaMuii] > come on!! help me xD i need this one
[11:51] <runlevelten> Are you not getting to a graphical desktop then [KaMuii] ?
[11:51] <runlevelten> [KaMuii] : Remember some of us are also working ;)
[11:52] <[KaMuii] > yep/ i have graph... but no accelerated
[11:52] <runlevelten> I may be a little slow, sorry
[11:52] <[KaMuii] > kk
[11:52] <runlevelten> have you tried to switch on desktop effects anyway?
[11:52] <[KaMuii] > yep... i have no desktop ef..
[11:53] <[KaMuii] > i can use linux very well ... i need 3D
[11:53] <[KaMuii] > im a graphic designer... xD
[11:53] <[KaMuii] > jaja
[11:54] <keitare> even doing manual configure i can't get it to connect
[11:54] <[KaMuii] > i need the drivers... and i need a way to use FLASH PLAYER ON LINUx too
[11:54] <keitare> it gets to the stage of trying find the ip
[11:55] <stdin> [KaMuii] : flash is in the repos, it's called flashplugin-nonfree
[11:59] <runlevelten> [KaMuii] : you should be using the open source radeon drivers as far as I'm aware, I don't think there is any driver you should be downloading
[11:59] <runlevelten> So as you say, it may be a matter of playing with xorg if 3d acceleration really is crapping out
[11:59] <[KaMuii] > yes...
[12:00] <[KaMuii] > i need to play whit... but .. HOW ??
[12:00] <keitare> can anyone help me my wifi card
[12:00] <runlevelten> can you pastebin it?
[12:00] <runlevelten> your xorg.conf?
[12:00] <[KaMuii] > pastebin ?
[12:01] <runlevelten> !pastebin
[12:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:02] <[KaMuii] > paste.ubuntu-nl.org rehus la conexin.
[12:02] <[KaMuii] > not working
[12:03] <runlevelten> wfm, I'd try it again
[12:03] <runlevelten> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[12:04] <keitare> i need help installing ndiswrapper
[12:04] <runlevelten> is it working now?
[12:04] <[KaMuii] > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29863/
[12:04] <[KaMuii] > yes
[12:07] <x_link> Hi
[12:07] <x_link> I will proberly install Kubuntu now, how is it with nvidia driver?
[12:07] <x_link> Is the latest driver in the repo or what?
[12:07] <x_link> Or is there a "Kubuntu way" to install the latest nvidia driver?
[12:08] <stdin> x_link: the best one will be in the repos
[12:08] <raylu> !nvidia
[12:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:08] <x_link> Okej.
[12:09] <x_link> I have 7.04 on CD, is it good?
[12:09] <x_link> Or should I get another version maybe?
[12:09] <x_link> And just one more thing, 7.04 that I have is a  Live CD. I ran the Live CD and when it was done I pressed the Install icon, but when I rebooted it wasn't installed.
[12:09] <raylu> ...
[12:09] <x_link> Is there no version where you install right away?
[12:10] <raylu> no, there isn't
[12:10] <x_link> hmm ok
[12:10] <raylu> and when you press the insatll icon...
[12:10] <raylu> there is a huge install process...
[12:10] <raylu> you can't miss it
[12:10] <raylu> so...you probably screwed something up...like not installing
[12:10] <x_link> I know.. but it wasn't installed when I rebooted.
[12:10] <x_link> ok
[12:10] <x_link> I will give it another shot then =)
[12:10] <raylu> how long was it between clicking install and restarting?
[12:11] <x_link> I pressed Install --> did the things it wanted/asked for --> when it said it was done I rebooted but Debian booted instead.
[12:11] <x_link> So I proberly did something wrong.
[12:11] <raylu> what partition did you install to?
[12:12] <stdin> x_link: maybe a silly question, but you did take the install cd out when you rebooted?
[12:12] <x_link> stdin: of course.
[12:12] <x_link> =)
[12:12] <ARM9> Nah, this was lame... Still have the same problems with KDevelop
[12:12] <x_link> raylu: I honestly don't remember, it was a while ago.
[12:12] <[KaMuii] > how i can modify the xorg.conf (sudo gedit /etc/x11/xorg.conf?????)
[12:12] <x_link> But I will try again, be back when everything is done and set right.
[12:12] <x_link> Bye
[12:12] <ARM9> I'm restoring standard ubuntu (sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop)
[12:13] <stdin> [KaMuii] : kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:13] <raylu> kamuii is a ddr song o.0
[12:13] <runlevelten> [KaMuii] : looking through there, I'm frankly stumped.
[12:13] <raylu> whats the difference between apt remove and apt purge?
[12:13] <runlevelten> It should be working
[12:13] <ARM9> bbl when I got kubunut-desktop removed
[12:14] <stdin> raylu: purge removes configuration files in /etc
[12:14] <[KaMuii] > kate not found
[12:14] <stdin> then you don't have kubuntu
[12:14] <[KaMuii] > OKJ ... I dont have composite ENABLED... line 296
[12:14] <[KaMuii] > i HAVE UBUntu
[12:14] <raylu> ...
[12:14] <[KaMuii] > on ubuntu how i do it?