[04:56] <terlmann> has anyone started on a gutsy plan yet ?
[04:56] <kwwii> terlmann: several people have talked about including their own community theme in gutsy if that is what you mean
[04:57] <terlmann> no. But in edgy we had a plan
[04:57] <terlmann> to make a new theme
[04:57] <terlmann> is there a team working on a theme for gutsy yet?
[05:00] <kwwii> no, things have changed since then
[05:00] <kwwii> did you do any work on the edgy artwork?
[05:00] <terlmann> I think it was better back then
[05:00] <terlmann> no
[05:00] <kwwii> hehe, so you thought it was better but you did not contribute and/or experience the situation at the time
[05:01] <terlmann> I was 16 at that time
[05:01] <kwwii> I hope that eventually we can get back to doing something more community based but at this time there is no plan to do gutsy as such
[05:01] <terlmann> I looked around and things seemed organized. now no one cares about "cool".
[05:02] <kwwii> if things seemed organized to you then, you did not follow the whole process all the way through
[05:03] <kwwii> hopefully one day we can do something like that again but for now it is simply impossible
[05:04] <kwwii> I would like to see people step up and help in any case
[05:04] <kwwii> but for gutsy the process will not be the same as edgy
[05:04] <terlmann> canonical should make a team for artwork and stick with it - we need to keep our art looking good. I recall some rules that were put out about how to lay out background elements in wallpapers and where not to put details, like in the corners.
[05:05] <kwwii> well, those things still apply anyway...those are general artwork rules and have nothing to do with the specific release nor the process of creating artwork for it
[05:06] <kwwii> canonical is a company which supports the creation of ubuntu and not the community itself
[05:06] <terlmann> well there needs to be more such rules. like only svg files and no pngs.
[05:06] <kwwii> so the community should step up and create some great artwork...that would help get the trust back
[05:07] <kwwii> I am not positive that making a rule for desktop wallpapers to only use svg is a good idea
[05:07] <kwwii> the dapper bg was great and it was pixmap based
[05:07] <terlmann> well it results in far smaller files... and sometimes better art.
[05:07] <kwwii> it just depends on what you are doing
[05:07] <kwwii> oh, I love svg, trust me
[05:07] <kwwii> almost everything I personally do is in svg
[05:08] <kwwii> time for a smoke, brb
[05:08] <terlmann> its an argument over the differences between files of bits and files of instructions...
[05:08] <terlmann> instructions being smaller
[05:08] <terlmann> lol , why not all just use .bmp .... hahahah
[07:20] <lapo> hi
[10:04] <lapo> re