[12:06] <ubotu> New bug: #125656 in openoffice.org (main) "package openoffice.org-base 2.2.1-5ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125656
[12:06] <ubotu> New bug: #125657 in openoffice.org (main) "package openoffice.org 2.2.1-5ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125657
[12:06] <ubotu> New bug: #125658 in openexr (main) "please update openexr version" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125658
[12:10] <ubotu> New bug: #125659 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "e1000-ich9 doesn't work without turning off tx checksum offload" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125659
[01:00] <ubotu> New bug: #125662 in network-manager (main) "Loss of DNS shortly after startup because /etc/init.d/networks isn't ignoring interfaces marked as roaming" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125662
[01:00] <ubotu> New bug: #125663 in Ubuntu "Truncated filename in error dialog for file copy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125663
[01:45] <ubotu> New bug: #125666 in gnome-terminal (main) "lowercase 'e' won't type into terminal at all" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125666
[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #125667 in update-manager (main) "package update-manager failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: SystemError in cache.commit(): E:Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125667
[02:25] <ubotu> New bug: #125668 in update-manager (main) "package update-manager failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: SystemError in cache.commit(): E:Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125668
[02:30] <ubotu> New bug: #125669 in Ubuntu "xfce screensaver configurer doesn't run/exist" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125669
[02:30] <ubotu> New bug: #125670 in xorg-driver-synaptics (main) "Scroll of synaptics touchpad stop working suddenly" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125670
[02:40] <ubotu> New bug: #125671 in autoinstall-i386 (universe) "Duplicate edit partition dialog hang the installer" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125671
[02:45] <ubotu> New bug: #125672 in Ubuntu "installer crashed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125672
[02:50] <ubotu> New bug: #125673 in Ubuntu "D-Link not recognized in Gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125673
[03:30] <ubotu> New bug: #125676 in Ubuntu "easy and fast TAP network bridges " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125676
[05:00] <ubotu> New bug: #125679 in Ubuntu "ATI Proprietary Driver Proplems" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125679
[05:31] <ubotu> New bug: #125680 in libavg (universe) "Please sync libavg (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125680
[05:31] <ubotu> New bug: #125681 in nspluginwrapper (multiverse) "nspluginwrapper in Gutsy 64-bit nonfunctional" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125681
[06:20] <ubotu> New bug: #125682 in ubuntustudio-meta (universe) "ubuntustudio-audio should depend on audacious instead of xmms" [Wishlist,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125682
[06:25] <ubotu> New bug: #125684 in synaptic (main) "bad image index" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125684
[06:26] <ubotu> New bug: #125683 in ubuntustudio-meta (universe) "ubuntustudio-audio should not recommend qsampler" [Wishlist,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125683
[06:31] <ubotu> New bug: #125685 in mythtv (multiverse) "Cleanup linda/lintian errors present in new upload" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125685
[06:31] <ubotu> New bug: #125686 in xprint (universe) "xprint has broken dependency on x11-common" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125686
[06:31] <ubotu> New bug: #125687 in samba (main) "Samba does not start on boot." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125687
[07:11] <ubotu> New bug: #125690 in usplash (main) "(Widescreen) 16:9 themes not being selected" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125690
[07:15] <ubotu> New bug: #125692 in openoffice.org (main) "package openoffice.org-common failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125692
[07:16] <ubotu> New bug: #125691 in firefox (main) "firefox can't print in landscape mode" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125691
[07:35] <ubotu> New bug: #125693 in compiz (main) "After installing desktop effects, totem dosen't display" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125693
[08:25] <ubotu> New bug: #125701 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "CPU ondemand governor keeps low freq" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125701
[08:30] <ubotu> New bug: #125702 in Ubuntu "failure to umount local filesystems - gutsy tribe 2" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125702
[08:55] <ubotu> New bug: #125703 in update-manager (main) "package update-manager failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: SystemError in cache.commit(): E:Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125703
[09:15] <ubotu> New bug: #125706 in openoffice.org (main) "package openoffice.org-java-common 2.2.1-5ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125706
[09:50] <ubotu> New bug: #125710 in sysvinit (main) "bootlogd not working (sysvinit)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125710
[10:00] <ubotu> New bug: #125712 in compiz (main) "Workspace keyboard shortcuts don't appear in keyboard shortcuts capplet when default compiz setup enabled" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125712
[10:00] <ubotu> New bug: #125713 in bonobo-activation (main) "bonobo activation server doesn't work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125713
[10:16] <ubotu> New bug: #125714 in compcomm-plugins-main (universe) "compcomm-plugins-main should be removed from the repositories" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125714
[10:21] <ubotu> New bug: #125715 in compiz (main) "Cube needs Ubuntu logo on top by default in gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125715
[10:21] <ubotu> New bug: #125716 in deskbar-applet (main) "Deskbar-applet pop-up too short" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125716
[10:28] <calc> Hobbsee: thanks for all the help with the bugs :
[10:28] <calc> :)
[10:29] <calc> gnomefreak: and you too :)
[10:29] <gnomefreak> :) anytime
[10:31] <Hobbsee> calc: no problem
[10:31] <Hobbsee> calc: there still seems to be heaps more coming in though
[10:51] <ubotu> New bug: #125721 in ntp (main) "/etc/network/if-up.d/ntp is confilt with /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125721
[11:05] <ubotu> New bug: #125723 in audiere (universe) "Please sync audiere (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125723
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #125722 in gnome-control-center (main) "gnome-at-properties - 'Accessible Login' button broken" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125722
[11:10] <ubotu> New bug: #125724 in openoffice.org (main) "open office don't verify with dictionary" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125724
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #125725 in cdebootstrap (universe) "cdebootstrap unable to bootstrap ubuntu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125725
[11:20] <ubotu> New bug: #125726 in openoffice.org (main) "package openoffice.org-common failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125726
[11:25] <ubotu> New bug: #125727 in lxml (universe) "new version 1.3.2 available" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125727
[12:05] <ubotu> New bug: #125730 in base-installer (main) "vfat partition fscked on every boot" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125730
[12:05] <ubotu> New bug: #125732 in qt4-x11 (main) "Qt4 "assistant" cannot be launched through QAssistantClient" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125732
[12:05] <ubotu> New bug: #125733 in apt (main) "apt-get doesn't support the purge operation, but is documented." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125733
[12:06] <calc> Hobbsee: should work now, feisty apparently was fighting over who had control of dhcp
[12:07] <Hobbsee> calc: oh fun
[12:10] <ubotu> New bug: #125734 in firefox (main) "Firefox scrollbar doesn't use the "infinite size" usability effect" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125734
[12:11] <calc> hopefully i won't bounce any more after editting /etc/network/interfaces
[12:11] <Hobbsee> heh
[12:11] <Hobbsee> calc: well, as long as you dont want ot read IRC or antyhing, you're OK
[12:20] <ubotu> New bug: #125737 in lilo (main) "Default /etc/lilo.conf options not optimal" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125737
[12:20] <ubotu> New bug: #125738 in xmame (multiverse) "Please update xmame-sdl to version 0.117" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125738
[12:45] <ubotu> New bug: #125739 in mpg321 (multiverse) "mpg123 and mpg321 won't play audio preview in Nautilus (Gutsy)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125739
[12:47] <calc> Hobbsee: i'm about to break ooo again in a few days so you'll have plenty of fun :)
[12:47] <calc> Hobbsee: going to be uploading ooo 2.3 soon
[12:49] <persia> calc: But this transition will be smooth, and we won't notice, right? :)
[12:50] <calc> persia: yes, but it is alpha version of ooo
[12:50] <calc> 2.3 final doesn't come out for several months still
[12:51] <persia> calc: Excellent then :)  One hopes we'll get useful feedback in bug reports.
[12:51] <calc> we are going to try to get 2.3.0 into gutsy and 2.3.1 into gutsy+1 and 3.0 into gutsy+2
[12:52] <calc> 2.4 will be skipped so it won't destablize gutsy+1 (LTS)
[12:53] <persia> calc: Nice!  I like roadmaps.
[12:54] <calc> yep it is nice that ooo has clearly defined roadmaps
[12:54] <calc> so ubuntu knows what it can ship in time
[12:55] <calc> it just happens that their releases line up almost exactly with ours so we can't test the final release much before the release of a new version of ubuntu :\
[12:55] <calc> so we upload beta versions to try to catch all the bugs early
[12:55] <ubotu> New bug: #125741 in emacs21 (main) "please sync package emacs from debian unstable" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125741
[12:55] <ubotu> New bug: #125742 in texlive-lang (main) "Upgrade to Gutsy takes long time due to ridiculous upgrades in tex" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125742
[01:16] <ubotu> New bug: #125744 in linux-meta (main) "Add more device IDs to support ATI SB700 SATA controller completely" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125744
[01:16] <ubotu> New bug: #125747 in gnome-panel (main) "Laptop white on white title bar on maximised screens" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125747
[01:16] <ubotu> New bug: #125748 in compiz (main) "compiz-{kde,gnome} does not depend on compiz-plugins" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125748
[01:25] <ubotu> New bug: #125749 in apt-cacher (universe) "apt-cacher clear obsolete deb packages error" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125749
[01:25] <ubotu> New bug: #125750 in pulseaudio (main) "PulseAudio is started before HAL, module-hal-detect fails" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125750
[01:51] <ubotu> New bug: #125754 in azureus (universe) "please-sync Azureus 2.5.0.4-1 from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125754
[01:55] <PriceChild> ?
[02:00] <Hobbsee> bug #64940
[02:00] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 64940 in kdeartwork "triplegears.jpg.desktop has mistranslated line (I think)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/64940
[02:01] <ubotu> New bug: #125756 in xserver-xorg-input-evdev (main) "When using evdev keyboard shortcuts go to vt and kill the Xserver" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125756
[02:01] <Hobbsee> calc: urgh.  please break X while you're at it.
[02:02] <Hobbsee> calc: please actually request testers or something, instead of uploading it to the archive?
[02:06] <ubotu> New bug: #125757 in qt4-x11 (main) "qt4 systray transparency broken" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125757
[02:10] <ubotu> New bug: #125758 in xine-lib (main) "Unable to play rtsp URL embedded in rm file" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125758
[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #125759 in xserver-xorg-video-amd (universe) "Please sync xserver-xorg-video-amd (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125759
[02:25] <ubotu> New bug: #125761 in evolution (main) "constant problems communicating with exchange backend process" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125761
[02:55] <ubotu> New bug: #125766 in wysihtml (universe) "Please merge wysihtml 0.13 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125766
[03:09] <calc> Hobbsee: hmm perhaps i will do that, sounds like a good idea
[03:09] <Hobbsee> calc: :)
[03:10] <ubotu> New bug: #125767 in knetworkmanager (main) "KNetworkManager Can't Set "Roaming Mode"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125767
[03:10] <ubotu> New bug: #125768 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "fix async queue behaviour" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125768
[03:10] <ubotu> New bug: #125769 in Ubuntu "logjam causes critical error in libsoup" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125769
[03:14] <calc> Hobbsee: i'll let you test it and then upload it, eh? ;)
[03:15] <Hobbsee> calc: set up a repo on people, or use the ppa's.
[03:15] <Hobbsee> calc: i'd prefer nto to download it billions of times, but why not
[03:16] <calc> Hobbsee: oh yea are the ppa's available for use yet on LP?
[03:16] <Hobbsee> calc: of course
[03:16] <Hobbsee> calc: there's a link on the canonical wiki about it
[03:17] <Hobbsee> calc: https://wiki.canonical.com/MOTUPPARecipe
[03:17] <Hobbsee> calc: erm...i dont :P
[03:18] <Hobbsee> calc: i just have the link to it, and know what's on that page...
[03:18] <Hobbsee> calc: you'll see the warnings on that page, so keep them in consideration
[03:18] <calc> Hobbsee: oh ok
[03:19] <Hobbsee> not that you'll need to worry about the overrides section, etc
[03:19] <Hobbsee> more just the part about the links being able to change, etc
[03:19] <Hobbsee> calc: i believe it's because it's still an alpha, and they dont want lots of people using it, and not expecting ti to change
[03:19] <Hobbsee> ScottK: :)
[03:20] <calc> oh ok
[03:21] <calc> ScottK: if i am reading it correctly its not on the main lp site yet
[03:21] <calc> its on a test server (i think)
[03:21] <Hobbsee> calc: it's got a gui now.
[03:22] <ScottK> Hobbsee: Do you know if I could get access to ppa?  It'd be a huge help.
[03:22] <Hobbsee> ScottK: quite likely.  /query cprov about it, when he comes back
[03:22] <Hobbsee> ScottK: i'm not sure how much of the info we're allowed to give out, etc
[03:23] <ScottK> Hobbsee: Thanks and understand.  I don't want to get you in trouble.
[03:31] <ubotu> New bug: #125772 in ecj (main) "sync request & promotion to main" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125772
[03:40] <ubotu> New bug: #125775 in firefox (main) "Firefow Crash AGAIN" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125775
[03:40] <ubotu> New bug: #125777 in openoffice.org (main) "package openoffice.org-base failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125777
[03:40] <ubotu> New bug: #125778 in icu (main) "sync request" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125778
[03:41] <ubotu> New bug: #125774 in freetype (main) "sync request" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125774
[03:45] <ubotu> New bug: #125779 in pidgin (main) "[gutsy]  MSN: cannot start a chat with an invisible contact" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125779
[03:48] <Hobbsee> ScottK: the answer is "wait until tomorrow"
[03:49] <ScottK> Hobbsee: Thanks.
[03:49] <Hobbsee> ScottK: no problems
[04:00] <ubotu> New bug: #125781 in check (main) "missing .so in check" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125781
[04:00] <ubotu> New bug: #125782 in avahi (main) "[gutsy]  avahi adds a route with priority even if the dhcp answered" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125782
[04:05] <ubotu> New bug: #125678 in gtk+2.0 (main) "[GUTSY]  firefox crashed [@file_model_node_get_info]  [@get_list_file_info]  [@list_icon_data_func]  (gtk+2.0-2.11.5)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125678
[04:21] <ubotu> New bug: #125787 in nautilus (main) "starting nautilus as root does not show mounted partitions" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125787
[04:30] <ubotu> New bug: #125789 in gnome-panel (main) "mi ubuntu desk bar dessapears when i change of workspaces. " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125789
[04:40] <ubotu> New bug: #125790 in alsa-driver (main) "no suitable alsa driver for siemens c1410 laptop" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125790
[04:45] <ubotu> New bug: #125792 in gnumeric (main) "gnumeric spreadsheet functions missing for AMD64 packages" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125792
[04:50] <ubotu> New bug: #125793 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu 7.04 will not start after powercut" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125793
[04:56] <ubotu> New bug: #125794 in mediawiki1.7 (universe) "403 Forbidden after install" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125794
[04:56] <ubotu> New bug: #125795 in mysql-query-browser (universe) "MySQL query browser crash" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125795
[04:56] <ubotu> New bug: #125796 in update-manager (main) "Update Manger did not update correctly" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125796
[05:06] <ubotu> New bug: #125798 in dcraw (main) "dcraw fails to convert Panasonic FZ8 RAW images" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125798
[05:28] <shirish> ubotu paste
[05:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:51] <ubotu> New bug: #125805 in openssh (main) "build against Heimdal Kerberos libraries" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125805
[05:53] <Hobbsee> daniel_: are you busy, atm?
[05:54] <dholbach> Hobbsee: how can I help you?
[05:55] <Hobbsee> dholbach: on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/ there are a whole lot of KDElibs bugs.  i'd hazard a guess that most of them are dupes.
[05:55] <dholbach> right
[05:55] <ubotu> New bug: #125806 in libarchive (universe) "[Sync request]  Sync libarchive (2.2.4-1) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125806
[05:55] <Hobbsee> dholbach: how can i use bughelper, or whatever other tools, to find out which are?
[05:57] <dholbach> I have a small description at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Diaries/dholbach
[05:58] <dholbach> malloc_consolidate() <- ask for a valgrind log
[05:58] <dholbach> but as the bug is 3 months old, I'd guess that you'd not get much out of it
[05:58] <Hobbsee> true
[05:59] <Hobbsee> everyone's ignoring them, as they contain backtraces
[05:59] <dholbach> hrm
[05:59] <dholbach> HRM!
[05:59] <Hobbsee> hm?
[06:00] <dholbach> I mean they are crashers - ignoring them is ... :-/
[06:00] <ubotu> New bug: #125807 in evolution-data-server (main) "build against Heimdal Kerberos libraries" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125807
[06:00] <ubotu> New bug: #125808 in bughelper (universe) "bughelper's use of python-launchpad-bugs util.py apt_pkg.GetPkgSrcRecords() may be incorrect" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125808
[06:00] <Hobbsee> dholbach: okay, well, i wont tell you about the state of kde bugs, for the most part, then.
[06:00] <bdmurray> dholbach: what do you mean by malloc_consolidate?
[06:01] <dholbach> bdmurray: it turns up in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/104408
[06:01] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 104408 in kdelibs "[apport]  kdeinit crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Confirmed] 
[06:01] <dholbach> sorry, I should have mentioned which of those bugs I'm looking at
[06:01] <Hobbsee> dholbach: okay, in truth, *i* ignore them, because i dont understand backtraces much, and there are only a few looking at the buglists, and i doubt that they do either
[06:01] <dholbach> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valgrind has instructions for bugs like that
[06:01] <dholbach> right
[06:01] <Hobbsee> you know about stuff being on the perpetual todo list, but never getting done?
[06:02] <dholbach> absolutely
[06:02] <bdmurray> dholbach: right but when should you run valgrind?  what criteria do you use?
[06:02] <dholbach> bdmurray: when a crash happens in *malloc*, it's usually some kind of memory corruption
[06:03] <dholbach> and valgrind will help you figuring out what goes wrong
[06:03] <bdmurray> so this seems like a good case for a generic clue file then?
[06:03] <dholbach> maybe, yes
[06:03] <dholbach> good idea
[06:04] <dholbach> go bdmurray! :-)
[06:04] <dholbach> rock on
[06:04] <Hobbsee> dholbach: i dont suppose there's a stock response for running valgrind currently, is there?
[06:04] <dholbach> I think there is
[06:04] <dholbach> maybe that's just in seb128's script
[06:04] <dholbach> hang on
[06:05] <Hobbsee> i've only got some of them in the script
[06:05] <ubotu> New bug: #125809 in Ubuntu "Xubuntu installer endless loop during disk preparation" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125809
[06:06] <Hobbsee> dholbach: is there some form of bzr repository that's auto-updated for cluefiles, or something
[06:06] <Hobbsee> ?
[06:06] <dholbach> Hobbsee: yes
[06:06] <dholbach> Hobbsee: bughelper makes use of that internally
[06:06] <Hobbsee> it wouldnt happen to be linked into bughelper by deafult, would it?
[06:07] <Hobbsee> oh that's right, it was giving me an error the last time i tried bughelper, so i left it in hte big "i dont understand this" corner.
[06:07] <bdmurray> heh
[06:07] <dholbach> hope it worksnicely now
[06:07] <seb128> dholbach: I've added the valgrind stock reply on the wiki some time ago
[06:07] <dholbach> rock
[06:09] <Hobbsee> dholbach: oh wow!
[06:09] <bdmurray> Hobbsee: Do you know what handles multimedia keys in Kubuntu?
[06:09] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: kmilo
[06:09] <dholbach> rock and roll
[06:10] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: whcih i believe is a part of....one of the kde metapackages
[06:10] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: poke lure over them - he does them
[06:10] <ubotu> New bug: #125811 in postgresql (universe) "build against Heimdal Kerberos libraries" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125811
[06:10] <ubotu> New bug: #125812 in udev (main) "package volumeid 113-0ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: il sottoprocesso post-installation script ha restituito un codice di errore 1" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125812
[06:11] <bdmurray> Hobbsee: is there a gui to configure them?
[06:11] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: nope
[06:11] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: they should "just work"
[06:11] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: well, depends exactly what you mean
[06:12] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: is this "my $multimedia key isnt recognised"?
[06:12] <Hobbsee> or is this "i want to change the global shortcut of this key, in KDE"?
[06:12] <bdmurray> my key isn't recognized but it does show up as a scan code
[06:12] <Hobbsee> which is it?
[06:13] <Hobbsee> and which does it come up in in xev?
[06:13] <bdmurray> bug 118254
[06:13] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 118254 in kdeutils "XF86AudioMute does not trigger shortcuts" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118254
[06:15] <ubotu> New bug: #125813 in udev (main) "package udev 113-0ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: problemi con le dipendenze - lasciato non configurato" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125813
[06:20] <Hobbsee_> bdmurray: erk.  what'd i miss?
[06:20] <Hobbsee> it appears that the mute button on my old laptop is now the standby button.  which doesnt work, on this laptop
[06:23] <bdmurray> that's an unpleasant surprise
[06:23] <Hobbsee> yes
[06:23] <Hobbsee> so my macghine crashed on resume
[06:25] <ubotu> New bug: #125814 in gnome-vfs2 (main) "build against Heimdal Kerberos libraries" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125814
[06:26] <ubotu> New bug: #125815 in busybox (main) "kubuntu can't access tty during live-cd / installation" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125815
[06:26] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: uh, that's fixed.
[06:27] <Hobbsee> since reporting the bug, I have tried putting in a live cd for feisty (the install cd) and under that it works. I installed feisty from the last beta before it was released. I tried gutsy as well and it works too.
[06:27] <Hobbsee> The good news is that it is probably not an issue that will come up again. I still would like to get this sorted out without a reinstall.
[06:27] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: as for how to fix it manually.....iirc, it uses a particular file, depending on the manufacturer of the laptop, so you'd have to take the correct file, and recompile it for edgy/dapper, i guess.
[06:28] <Hobbsee> wait, no, you should also be able to map that with global shortcuts, under kde, iirc
[06:30] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: okay, you can change it by changing the global shortcuts in amarok, with the "mute volume", clicking on "custom" or the thing next to it, and pressing the mute button.
[06:30] <ubotu> New bug: #125816 in redfish "linux-image postinst matches header_postinst_hook for postinst_hook incorrectly" [High,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125816
[06:31] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: or do you want me to say that in the bug report?
[06:36] <joumetal> Printing of pictures with firefox eog and gthumb fails. Size of print job is really big. Printer of my friend is laserjet 1200.
[06:36] <joumetal> Openoffice and evince does job well. Dapper.
[06:38] <joumetal> If I file a bug. What is right package?
[06:40] <Hobbsee> !responses
[06:40] <ubotu> response is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses
[07:05] <ubotu> New bug: #125822 in cyrus-sasl2 (main) "build against Heimdal Kerberos libraries missing" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125822
[07:05] <ubotu> New bug: #125823 in Ubuntu "Camorama upgrade bug" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125823
[07:40] <ubotu> New bug: #125827 in Ubuntu "Mouse flags for a second or two on AMD64" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125827
[07:40] <ubotu> New bug: #125829 in openttd (multiverse) "Doesn't show or have a menu item" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125829
[07:50] <ubotu> New bug: #125832 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "[gutsy]  orinoco_cs.ko missing" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125832
[07:55] <ubotu> New bug: #125833 in oooqs2-kde (universe) "bad text encoding" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125833
[08:17] <ubotu> New bug: #125835 in kaffeine (main) "cannot play audio on .3gp movies" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125835
[08:35] <ubotu> New bug: #125837 in neon26 (main) "build against Heimdal Kerberos libraries" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125837
[08:35] <ubotu> New bug: #125838 in icecc (universe) "/etc/init.d/icecc  reports wrong starting actions" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125838
[08:40] <ubotu> New bug: #125764 in Ubuntu "No Video Card Detection" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125764
[08:40] <ubotu> New bug: #125839 in kdepim (main) "dragging attachment from kmail sets wrong umask" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125839
[09:06] <ubotu> New bug: #125846 in Ubuntu "no bug" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125846
[09:14] <Kmos> bdmurray: ping
[09:20] <ubotu> New bug: #125848 in cupsys (main) "Printing via ipp to Minolta Magicolor 2430DL fails, client-error-document-format-not-supported" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125848
[09:39] <mkrufky> hi guys... i am a kernel driver developer, and i've filed a few bugs against ubuntu-kernel many months ago... firmware dependencies by the kernel.  can i get some action on launchpad bugs  90723 and 99107 ?
[09:39] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 90723 in linux-source-2.6.20 "Please include bluebird firmware for dvb-usb devices" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90723
[09:39] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 99107 in linux-source-2.6.20 "Feisty ships with OLD cx2341x mpeg encoder firmware" [Low,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/99107
[09:39] <mkrufky> awesome :-)  nice bot
[09:40] <mkrufky> 99107 is starting to cause some tech support nightmares for us in #v4l :-/
[09:42] <ScottK> Not all of it is relevant to your situation, but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeamBugPolicies is something you should be familiar with if you are not.
[09:43] <ScottK> mkrufky: The guy that responded to your dvd-usb bug is the head of the Ubuntu kernel team, so you've got the attention of the right person.
[09:44] <ScottK> mkrufky: And the person to whom the other one is assigned is a member of the kernel team, so that likely means he is working on fixing it.
[09:44] <mkrufky> i'm friendly with benc ... i dont know what the hold up is on the bluebird firmware.....
[09:44] <ScottK> What I'd suggest you do is see if there
[09:44] <ScottK> Argh.
[09:44] <mkrufky> and as per the cx2341x firmware, kyle seems to have marked it "in progress" immediately, then nothing ever happened :-/
[09:45] <ScottK> What I'd suggest is hang out in #ubuntu-kernel and ask nicely.  Not this week though as there is a developer sprint.
[09:45] <mkrufky> that cx2341x firmware issue will break pvrusb2, cx88-blackbird, and ivtv for feisty and later
[09:45] <ScottK> Also, keep in mind that we are developing Gutsy now.
[09:45] <mkrufky> ah, that explains why i got no response today when i asked in #ubuntu-kernel
[09:45] <mkrufky> this all also applies to gutsy
[09:45] <mkrufky> (should i mark that somehow inside the bug? "
[09:45] <mkrufky> )
[09:46] <ScottK> So focus your initial contact with them on Gutsy.  Get it fixed there.  THEN talk about backfitting the change.
[09:46] <ScottK> Maybe add a comment.
[09:46] <mkrufky> heh... i reported these before fiesty was released :-(
[09:46] <ScottK> Or edit the description if you think it's unclear.
[09:46] <ScottK> Sure.
[09:46] <mkrufky> ok, well... i guess i will try again in a week or so
[09:46] <mkrufky> but i WROTE the drivers... i can only do so much ;-)
[09:47] <mkrufky> thanks ScottK ...  at least you confirmed for me that asking in #ubuntu-kernel is in fact the right place :-)
[09:47] <ScottK> Understand.
[09:48] <ScottK> Are you working on getting them into the upstream kernel too?
[09:48] <mkrufky> upstream has had this code since 2.6.15
[09:49] <ScottK> But not integrated yet?
[09:49] <mkrufky> totally integrated
[09:49] <ScottK> And Ubuntu drops it?
[09:49] <mkrufky> only ubuntu is broken
[09:49] <mkrufky> i think we have a misunderstanding.....
[09:49] <mkrufky> im talking about the FIRMWARE
[09:49] <mkrufky> ubuntu ships broken cx2341x firmware
[09:49] <ScottK> Ah.
[09:50] <mkrufky> official firmware has since been released by hauppauge
[09:50] <mkrufky> hauppauge knows that ubuntu is shipping this firmware
[09:50] <ScottK> So the actual kernel code is inline already, it's just updating the firmware version.
[09:50] <mkrufky> but hauppauge doesn't know that ubuntu is shipping the old, broken version
[09:50] <mkrufky> yes
[09:50] <mkrufky> and also, ubuntu has never shipped the bluebird firmware
[09:51] <ScottK> OK.
[09:51] <mkrufky> *I* released this bluebird firmware ....  it is 100% fine for redistribution
[09:51] <ScottK> OK.  That sounds good.
[09:52] <mkrufky> the cx2341x firmware is a major problem, though.... because the new kernel drivers will reject the old firmware, and users are left clueless (because they dont think to read the error message in dmesg)
[09:52] <ScottK> I don't know much about packaging firmware.  Can it go in a separate package or does it have to be in the kernel package?
[09:52] <mkrufky> that i dont know
[09:52] <mkrufky> i believe that ubuntu does it all in the kernel package
[09:52] <ScottK> OK.
[09:52] <mkrufky> fedora ships it separately
[09:52] <mkrufky> each distro does it different
[09:52] <ScottK> If you could get the dmesg output of such a failure and attach it to the bug, that would likely help it get attention.
[09:54] <ScottK> mkrufky: If you can get that added to the bug, ping me and I'll bump it to medium to see if that get's their notice.
[09:54] <mkrufky> ok
[09:54] <mkrufky> hmm... i had a user give me that output earlier, but i already walked him thru the fix and closed my pastebin window
[09:54] <mkrufky> lol
[09:55] <ScottK> That's an example of why I pointed you at the wiki page.  That's one of the things they want.
[09:57] <mkrufky> ok, i just updated launchpad bug 99107
[09:57] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 99107 in linux-source-2.6.20 "Feisty ships with OLD cx2341x mpeg encoder firmware" [Low,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/99107
[09:59] <mkrufky> requiring dmesg is reasonable.....  i just didnt think it was necessary, since my name is in the MODULE_AUTHOR field ...  but i understand
[10:02] <ScottK> OK.  I bumped it to medium.  I'll probably get my wrist slapped for that since it's already assigned to someone.  We'll see.
[10:03] <mkrufky> ...and im looking for a dmesg output complaining about missing bluebird firmware on google now
[10:03] <ScottK> OK.
[10:03] <mkrufky> so far, i think most users just googled the firmware name and then used the script to retrieve it
[10:05] <ubotu> New bug: #125852 in nautilus (main) "nautilus crashed with signal 25" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125852
[10:10] <ScottK> mkrufky meet superm1_
[10:10] <ubotu> New bug: #125853 in libgnomedb (main) "merge libgnomedb3-4 3.0.0-1 from debian unstable" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125853
[10:10] <superm1_> hi mkrufky
[10:10] <ScottK> superm1_ meet mkrufky
[10:11] <ScottK> mkrufky: superm1_ knows something about packaging firmware.
[10:11] <ScottK> superm1_: mkrufky is the author of the dvd-usb firmware.
[10:11] <ScottK> Have a nice conversation please.
[10:11] <superm1_> dvb-usb i'd think, not dvd-usb :)
[10:11] <mkrufky> ... ok, and i just added the dmesg output to launchpad bug #90723
[10:11] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 90723 in linux-source-2.6.20 "Please include bluebird firmware for dvb-usb devices" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90723
[10:11] <superm1_> mkrufky, I was actually going to say this likely needs to be added to linux-ubuntu-modules
[10:12] <mkrufky> hi, superm1_
[10:12] <ScottK> OK.  I'll look at that one.
[10:12] <superm1_> looking at that bug it looks like BenC commented on it, but it'likely a bit low in his queue of things to work on
[10:12] <mkrufky> that's up to you ....  afaikm all other dvb-usb firmwares are packaged with the kernel
[10:12] <superm1_> right
[10:13] <pochu> hey asac! There's finally a fix for listen's crash! I've uploaded a debdiff to bug 116687, could you please check it? Thanks!
[10:13] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 116687 in listen "[gutsy]  Listen crashes with segfault" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116687
[10:13] <mkrufky> yeah, i know he "confirmed" the bug.... but that was ages ago
[10:13] <superm1_> mkrufky, the best thing to do is to post to kernel-team@lists.ubuntu.com
[10:13] <superm1_> to ask them where they would like it included
[10:13] <mkrufky> okay, thanks
[10:13] <superm1_> you can then do it as a git patch
[10:13] <superm1_> and they will apply it for you
[10:13] <ScottK> mkrufky: Since it's a new device, wishlist is the appropriate priority.  I
[10:14] <ScottK> Yeah.  Feed them a patch and your odds go way up.
[10:14] <mkrufky> heh... .this was a new device, for DAPPER
[10:14] <superm1_> Feed them a patch and its in within a day or two, as lirc just got added by me yesterday :)
[10:14] <mkrufky> dapper, edgy, feisty and gutsy are all affected by this one :-(
[10:14] <ScottK> mkrufky: Fix Gutsy and then discuss a backport.
[10:14] <mkrufky> actually... no patch required... the kernel code is fine as-is ... only missing firmware
[10:15] <mkrufky> umm, then can i get this bug re-spun towards gutsy?
[10:15] <superm1_> well it is a "patch" in the sense that files are added
[10:15] <superm1_> even if they are binary pieces
[10:16] <superm1_> the kernel team will point you in the exact right direction though how they'd like it
[10:17] <mkrufky> ok .... so, basically... i did all i can do, and the next step is to email the kernel-team list and ask what's next?
[10:17] <superm1_> well it will likely get taken care of through that list
[10:18] <mkrufky> ok, great
[10:19] <mkrufky> thanks ScottK & superm1_
[10:19] <superm1_> mkrufky, i reclassed your bug to linux-source-2.6.22 also, so it should be back in their queues for this current kernel, but good luck on the ML either way :)
[10:20] <mkrufky> ah, thanks
[10:20] <mkrufky> superm1_: can you do that for both of them?
[10:20] <superm1_> both? there are two bugs?
[10:20] <mkrufky> 90723 and 99107
[10:20] <mkrufky> hmm that didnt trigger the bot
[10:20] <mkrufky> launchpad bugs 90723 and 99107
[10:20] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 90723 in linux-source-2.6.22 "Please include bluebird firmware for dvb-usb devices" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90723
[10:20] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 99107 in linux-source-2.6.20 "Feisty ships with OLD cx2341x mpeg encoder firmware" [Medium,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/99107
[10:20] <mkrufky> :-D
[10:21] <superm1_> sure.  just did
[10:21] <mkrufky> thanks
[10:45] <ubotu> New bug: #125854 in mcelog (universe) "mcelog needs to be updated in order to decode MCEs from modern CPU's" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125854
[10:45] <ubotu> New bug: #125855 in linux-meta (main) "[PATCH]  closing laptop lid doesn't suspend system" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125855
[11:20] <ubotu> New bug: #125865 in libqt4-ruby (universe) "error when installing libqt0-ruby1.8-qt4 and libqt4-ruby at the same time" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125865
[11:21] <ubotu> New bug: #124471 in evolution (main) "evolution crashed with SIGSEGV in html_object_get_left_margin() (dup-of: 85159)" [Medium,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/124471
[11:21] <ubotu> New bug: #125776 in evolution (main) "evolution crashed with SIGSEGV in html_object_get_left_margin() (dup-of: 85159)" [Medium,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125776
[11:25] <ubotu> New bug: #125866 in evolution-exchange (main) "package evolution-exchange 2.11.5-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125866
[11:35] <ubotu> New bug: #125869 in firefox (main) "problem z firefox" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125869
[11:40] <ubotu> New bug: #125870 in firefox (main) "unespected crash of firefox" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125870