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| jsgotangco | good morning | 02:34 |
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| mneptok | commit the damned Evo patch, ya bastards! | 03:11 |
| mneptok | raar. sorry. | 03:11 |
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| RAOF | bug #123664 is annoying me :). I pushed it upstream, and there's a (fairly small) patch to fix it which will be in 2.19.6. Should I prepare a debdiff against our current g-p-m, or just wait for 2.19.6 to be released & (help) package that? | 03:18 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 123664 in gnome-power-manager "Should not count time suspended in battery profile" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/123664 | 03:18 |
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| minghua | I say don't bother patching. gnome-power-manager should be included in the final GNOME 2.20 release, shouldn't it? | 03:25 |
| RAOF | I believe so | 03:26 |
| Fujitsu | 2.19.6 should come in with the rest of GNOME 2.19.6. | 03:26 |
| Fujitsu | That shouldn't be far off. | 03:27 |
| RAOF | Fair enough. I'll see if I can help package the new uv then. | 03:28 |
| minghua | Well, 2.19.5 was released yesterday, so maybe a while. | 03:28 |
| zul | hey mneptok | 03:30 |
| === minghua wants to thank RAOF for fixing that bug. It annoys me as well. | ||
| === RAOF didn't fix it. Just report it upstream | ||
| minghua | RAOF: Thank you for reporting, then. :-) | 03:32 |
| RAOF | That I'll lay claim to :) | 03:32 |
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| mneptok | zul: heya | 04:15 |
| mneptok | There is no Dana. Only Zul. | 04:15 |
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| Pici | mneptok: http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul | 04:20 |
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| sbalneav | Mithrandir: Hey, did you ever get a sql representation of ical going? | 06:20 |
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| elpargo_ | hi anyone here knows how can I call the "open with" functionality in the content menu of nautilus? | 07:19 |
| Burgundavia | elpargo_: what do you want to do? | 07:21 |
| elpargo_ | Burgundavia, I want to call the correct program to handle a file from code. | 07:22 |
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| Burgundavia | you want to open a file with an external app? | 07:23 |
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| elpargo_ | Burgundavia, no no from my code I want to execute the same function. | 07:23 |
| Burgundavia | try in #gnome-hackers on gimp.net | 07:24 |
| elpargo_ | Burgundavia, yes but I'll like to delegate that to the nautilus system, i find it very good, and there is no need to redo the wheel | 07:24 |
| Burgundavia | no, I am saying talk with the GNOME developers on that channel | 07:25 |
| Burgundavia | they will tell you how and that is a better channel for that | 07:25 |
| elpargo_ | ok thanks | 07:25 |
| Burgundavia | no worries | 07:26 |
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| superm1 | Hobbsee, would you be able to look over another lirc upload (promise this one is smaller than the request the other night)? | 09:21 |
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| Sp4rKy | fabbione: ping | 10:03 |
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| Sp4rKy | fabbione: i just merged afbinit, can you check the final debdiff at http://paste.dunnewind.net/256 and say me if you're agree with it | 10:05 |
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| fabbione | Sp4rKy: looking | 10:16 |
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| fabbione | Sp4rKy: looks ok, can you please make sure to send our diff to the debian maintainer? at least the include stuff... he can?t really merge the section | 10:18 |
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| Sp4rKy | fabbione: ok | 10:18 |
| Sp4rKy | so i request a merge on lp and mail the debdiff to the debian maint ? | 10:19 |
| fabbione | hm? just send a mail to the maintainer with the diff for the includes | 10:19 |
| fabbione | and upload the package to ubuntu | 10:19 |
| fabbione | i don?t see the need to open an lp request | 10:19 |
| Sp4rKy | hu ? | 10:19 |
| Sp4rKy | i don't understand well ^^ | 10:20 |
| Sp4rKy | it should be a merge process, no ? | 10:20 |
| fabbione | yes but a merge process does not require an LP request | 10:20 |
| fabbione | just upload it to the archive | 10:20 |
| Sp4rKy | i can't upload myself :) | 10:21 |
| fabbione | ok, then ask for a sponsorship... or give me a few minutes and I will do it | 10:21 |
| gnomefreak | do all backports have to be pushed by a core-dev? | 10:21 |
| fabbione | just need to power up my sparc to test it | 10:21 |
| Sp4rKy | fabbione: ok :) | 10:21 |
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| Sp4rKy | i wait your test | 10:21 |
| Sp4rKy | and then i'll mail the debian maint | 10:21 |
| Fujitsu | gnomefreak: core-dev can upload directly to backports, but most are requested as sync are. | 10:21 |
| Fujitsu | *syncs | 10:21 |
| Fujitsu | (ie. archive admins do them) | 10:21 |
| gnomefreak | someone backported hal and i thought that was one of the no no packages to backport | 10:22 |
| gnomefreak | its borked anyway in feisty backports | 10:22 |
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| Fujitsu | Hi pitti. | 10:22 |
| pitti | Hi Fujitsu | 10:22 |
| gnomefreak | morning pitti | 10:23 |
| fabbione | Sp4rKy: can you put the debdiff somewhere wget?able? | 10:23 |
| Hobbsee | morning pitti | 10:23 |
| Sp4rKy | fabbione: of course | 10:24 |
| === StevenK waves to pitti | ||
| === gnomefreak kind of worries about that backport TBH | ||
| gnomefreak | ill keep looking to see who did it | 10:24 |
| pitti | hey Hobbsee, hi StevenK | 10:24 |
| Sp4rKy | fabbione: http://people.dunnewind.net/maxence/afbinit_debdiff | 10:24 |
| === pitti kills the NBS list, now that the kernel bits built | ||
| StevenK | Yay! | 10:24 |
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| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: blame pitti | 10:25 |
| StevenK | pitti: NBS everything out of the archive that's zero size, plus you can probably kill libcegui-mk2-0c2a. | 10:25 |
| gnomefreak | Hobbsee: i would but he was removed from maintainer feild | 10:25 |
| gnomefreak | field | 10:25 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: he's uploaded it | 10:25 |
| fabbione | Sp4rKy: thanks | 10:25 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: | 10:25 |
| Hobbsee | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/0.5.9-1ubuntu2~feisty1 | 10:25 |
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| gnomefreak | pitti: isnt hal one of those packages that shouldnt be backported? | 10:26 |
| StevenK | pitti: And can you puhlease kick glew, parrot and libgeda out of NEW? | 10:26 |
| pitti | StevenK: seb128 is looking at NEW | 10:26 |
| Sp4rKy | fabbione: np | 10:26 |
| pitti | gnomefreak: why? | 10:26 |
| StevenK | pitti: Fair enough. | 10:27 |
| pitti | gnomefreak: I did backport a gutsy hal to feisty, because it fixes stuff for quite a lot of people | 10:27 |
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| StevenK | pitti: Okay, will you regenerate the list after you kill everything zero-sized? | 10:27 |
| pitti | StevenK: yep | 10:27 |
| StevenK | pitti: Cool, thanks. | 10:27 |
| pitti | StevenK: in an hour, after next publisher run | 10:27 |
| StevenK | Sounds fine. | 10:27 |
| gnomefreak | pitti: i thought due to depends it shouldnt have been. btw its broken in feisty | 10:28 |
| gnomefreak | pitti: bug 125717 | 10:28 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 125717 in feisty-backports "No initscript in hal 0.5.9" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125717 | 10:28 |
| pitti | gnomefreak: --verbose, please | 10:28 |
| pitti | gnomefreak: that's weird | 10:28 |
| pitti | gnomefreak: oh, it is not supposed to have one | 10:28 |
| gnomefreak | pitti: im not running it in feisty i am hearing about this | 10:28 |
| pitti | gnomefreak: /etc/dbus/event.d/20hal | 10:29 |
| pitti | hal *never* had an init script until recent gutsy | 10:29 |
| simira | speaking of which, where can I get a gutsy-cd in this office? | 10:32 |
| Hobbsee | simira! | 10:32 |
| gnomefreak | pitti: hes gonna comment on bug i hope | 10:33 |
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| simira | Hobbsee :) | 10:35 |
| === simira waves from London | ||
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| Hobbsee | simira: your'e in london now, hey? nice! | 10:35 |
| Riddell | simira: how's the view? | 10:35 |
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| elmo | simira: download it? the net connection doesn't suck, especially not to *.u.c | 10:36 |
| fabbione | Sp4rKy: uploaded | 10:36 |
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| Sp4rKy | fabbione: ok thx | 10:36 |
| Sp4rKy | so i mail the dd | 10:36 |
| fabbione | Sp4rKy: np.. | 10:36 |
| Riddell | Mithrandir: could you give back kde4graphics and kde4network? | 10:36 |
| Mithrandir | Riddell: backgegibt | 10:37 |
| Riddell | Mithrandir: pardon? | 10:37 |
| Mithrandir | Riddell: given-back | 10:38 |
| Riddell | thanks | 10:38 |
| Mithrandir | cjwatson: you were right last night, your fix works and I am a muppet. | 10:38 |
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| simira | elmo: true. Then I just need to find someone nice person to give/lend me a cd :) | 10:39 |
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| Hobbsee | guten morgen, mvo | 10:54 |
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| mvo | hey Hobbsee | 10:56 |
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| Mithrandir | cjwatson: http://err.no/tmp/mobile/mobile-dev ; it looks fairly sane to me, what do you think? | 11:00 |
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| StevenK | pitti: Poke, regenerate NBS. :-) | 11:09 |
| StevenK | seb128_: Can you puhlease kick glew, parrot and libgeda out of NEW, so the older libraries can be NBS'd when they have no rdepends? | 11:12 |
| pitti | StevenK: as I said, I need to wait for the publisher to finish | 11:12 |
| StevenK | Oh duh, it isn't instant. | 11:12 |
| StevenK | Sorry | 11:12 |
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| seb128_ | StevenK: looking | 11:26 |
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| StevenK | seb128_: Thanks. | 11:26 |
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| seb128_ | StevenK: parrot didn't build on ia64 | 11:29 |
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| StevenK | Wierd. No idea why, or how to fix it. | 11:33 |
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| StevenK | It fails the same way on Debian, so I'm comforted by that. | 11:34 |
| seb128_ | well we try to NEW on all the arches in the same time | 11:36 |
| StevenK | I can file a nastygram in Debian, but I doubt I know enough about Parrot internals to attempt to fix it. | 11:37 |
| StevenK | Or have access to an ia64 | 11:37 |
| Mithrandir | seb128_: as long as it FTBFS, it should be fine. | 11:37 |
| seb128_ | Mithrandir: ok | 11:38 |
| StevenK | Mithrandir: It runs itself during the build and blows up. So it's impressive. | 11:38 |
| infinity | mvo: Your custom apt works perfectly for me. You're a rock star. | 11:39 |
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| StevenK | seb128_: And if you process bug 125586, we can kill rt3.6-apache off the NBS list. | 11:40 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 125586 in request-tracker3.6 "[Sync request] Sync request-tracker3.6 (3.6.4-1) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125586 | 11:40 |
| infinity | mvo: Although, it took me about 5 minutes of confusion and a diff of the source to realise you'd renamed the variable. :P | 11:41 |
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| pygi | fabbione, around by any chance? | 11:41 |
| cjwatson_ | Mithrandir: germinate 0.31 synced for the next publisher run | 11:42 |
| fabbione | pygi: yes? | 11:43 |
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| pygi | fabbione, brasero built properly on sparc & ppc now ;) | 11:43 |
| fabbione | pygi: ok cool | 11:43 |
| seb128_ | StevenK: synced | 11:46 |
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| fabbione | whops | 11:47 |
| StevenK | seb128: Thanks! | 11:47 |
| seb128 | StevenK: thank you for doing most of the work ;) | 11:48 |
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| pitti | 'k, time to crank NBS | 11:49 |
| StevenK | pitti: Hurrah! | 11:49 |
| StevenK | pitti: Ping me when it's finished smashing drescher? | 11:49 |
| pitti | sure | 11:50 |
| mvo | infinity: uhhh, sorry for that, I thought I had told you about it | 11:51 |
| Hobbsee | mvo: got any current plans for fixing the metapackages from any component cant install recommends bug? | 11:52 |
| infinity | mvo: No one tells me anything. | 11:52 |
| seb128 | infinity: or maybe you just don't listen what people say? ;) | 11:52 |
| StevenK | Could be both. | 11:53 |
| Hobbsee | mvo: what would the fix be? just hardcode the universe/metapackages, and multiverse/metapackages, in there too, like you have with multiverse? | 11:53 |
| mvo | Hobbsee: yes, but I have no timeline yet, please keep naging me about it so that I get to it eventually | 11:53 |
| mvo | Hobbsee: I think the fix would be either to suppoer regexp there or to allow a list of sections | 11:53 |
| infinity | seb128: I suspect it's a bit of both. :) | 11:53 |
| Hobbsee | mvo: right. more things are missing this, now, not just *-r-e | 11:53 |
| Hobbsee | mvo: how often do you wish to be nagged? :P | 11:54 |
| simira | infinity: no one ever tells you anything so you don't bother to listen? :p | 11:54 |
| infinity | simira: Did you say something? | 11:55 |
| mvo | Hobbsee: once a day is enough ;) | 11:55 |
| Hobbsee | mvo: :D | 11:55 |
| simira | infinity: nothing important | 11:55 |
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| pitti | StevenK: NBS updated | 12:07 |
| simira | seb128: how do I reduce the font size in the gutsy gnome menus? (I managed to reduce all other in Appearance-settings) | 12:14 |
| simira | &j ubuntu-gnome | 12:14 |
| simira | uh | 12:14 |
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| Fujitsu | simira: You probably want to change the DPI setting in Appearance->Fonts->Details | 12:16 |
| seb128 | Fujitsu: it's not going to be menu specific | 12:16 |
| simira | Fujitsu: we (Scott) tried.... no effect | 12:16 |
| seb128 | simira: it should follow the applications font | 12:16 |
| simira | who changed and blew up the fonts anyway... | 12:16 |
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| simira | seb128: it definitely doesn't | 12:17 |
| seb128 | simira: no idea then, looks like a bug | 12:18 |
| seb128 | works fine on my laptop | 12:18 |
| simira | seb128: a gnome- og x.org-bug? | 12:20 |
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| seb128 | simira: would need to be debugged to say, but it's only the gnome-panel not changing I would say a GNOMEish bug | 12:21 |
| seb128 | s/it's/if it's | 12:21 |
| simira | seb128: yes, seems to me like it is | 12:21 |
| seb128 | does restarting it makes a difference? | 12:21 |
| Mithrandir | cjwatson: thanks; committed | 12:22 |
| simira | seb128: logout/login seemed to fix it. Should I still report a bug for it, or does it have to be that way? | 12:25 |
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| seb128 | simira: you can open a bug but since it doesn't happen on my box it's likely to stay open until somebody getting the bug look at it | 12:27 |
| simira | seb128: ok | 12:29 |
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| simira | mjg59: you have absolutely nothing to do today, have you? | 12:53 |
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| Arcer | hi all | 12:55 |
| Arcer | excuse me for my english | 12:55 |
| Arcer | someone known a gui kde-like for developing in C | 12:56 |
| Arcer | ? | 12:56 |
| Arcer | like devc in Windoes | 12:56 |
| pitti | Arcer: kdevelop is fairly good | 12:56 |
| Arcer | oh thank :D | 12:56 |
| Arcer | i'll install see later :D | 12:57 |
| calc | maybe eclipse also | 12:57 |
| Arcer | I use eclipse for java programming in Windows | 01:00 |
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| asac | crimsun: ping | 01:05 |
| asac | crimsun: unping | 01:05 |
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| Riddell | seb128: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/125748 | 01:09 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 125748 in compiz "compiz-{kde,gnome} does not depend on compiz-plugins" [Undecided,New] | 01:09 |
| StevenK | Riddell: Why are kde4libs-data, kdepimlibs4 and kdepimlibs4-dev all marked as NBS? What replaces them? | 01:13 |
| Riddell | StevenK: where is that listed? | 01:13 |
| Riddell | StevenK: kde4libs-data -> kdelibs5-data | 01:13 |
| StevenK | http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS/ | 01:13 |
| Riddell | kdepimlibs4 -> kdepimlibs5 | 01:14 |
| Riddell | kdepimlibs4-dev -> kdepimlibs5-dev | 01:14 |
| Riddell | I may well have forgotten to put in Replaces: on various of those | 01:14 |
| persia | pitti: Thank you ever so much for the binary removals. | 01:14 |
| simira | Hobbsee: are you asleep yet? | 01:15 |
| StevenK | simira: She is probably dinner'ing | 01:15 |
| simira | oh | 01:15 |
| calc | simira: kylem does a pretty good hiding act | 01:16 |
| pitti | persia: no problem :) | 01:16 |
| simira | calc: he might be busy then.... | 01:16 |
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| Fujitsu | StevenK: Why? | 01:22 |
| Fujitsu | Oh, NBS? | 01:22 |
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| StevenK | No, it's fine. It's 5 packages, and I | 01:26 |
| StevenK | 'm just about half-way through it. | 01:26 |
| StevenK | And it all scripted/scriptable. | 01:26 |
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| Fujitsu | Thanks. | 01:26 |
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| StevenK | pitti: I'm unclear why nic-firmware, scsi-firmware and ubuntu-modules are listed in NBS. I'm probably missing something. | 01:30 |
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| pitti | StevenK: I'll have a look later | 01:33 |
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| StevenK | Hrm. Been a while since I heard this. | 01:40 |
| StevenK | Frame# 38870 [118037] , Time: 00:13.66 [68:05.14] | 01:40 |
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| StevenK | Typical. Out of the five builds, one failed, and it's one with Ubuntu changes. | 01:45 |
| === StevenK blames Fujitsu. | ||
| === Fujitsu is blamed. | ||
| Fujitsu | Which? | 01:46 |
| Fujitsu | geda-gschem? | 01:46 |
| StevenK | Yup | 01:46 |
| Fujitsu | StevenK: The rest of geda is in DEPWAIT at the moment. | 01:46 |
| Fujitsu | And I haven't merged that yet. | 01:46 |
| StevenK | So I just uploaded four rebuilds for nothing? | 01:46 |
| Fujitsu | Um, possibly. | 01:47 |
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| StevenK | geda-gattrib built. | 01:48 |
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| StevenK | As did geda-utils. | 01:48 |
| === StevenK suspects the four rebuilds are completly pointless. | ||
| StevenK | Yup. | 01:49 |
| StevenK | pitti, Mithrandir: Can you reject geda-* please? | 01:50 |
| Fujitsu | Yay, unaccepting. | 01:50 |
| === StevenK plots against Fujitsu. | ||
| === Fujitsu apologises for not making the connection. | ||
| StevenK | If they do or don't, it isn't too important, just pointless and a waste of buildd time. | 01:51 |
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| Fujitsu | Right. | 01:52 |
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| Fujitsu | Hah. | 01:53 |
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| StevenK | :-P | 01:53 |
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| Keybuk | why can I find no OpenOffice documentation on creating presentation templates? | 01:56 |
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| Hobbsee | simira: nope, was at dinner. | 02:01 |
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| jordi | fabbione: ping ping | 02:05 |
| Hobbsee | Keybuk: does anyone actually create presentation templates in ooo anyway? | 02:07 |
| ijuz_ | i'm always using the "empty presentation" template it's great stuff ;) | 02:11 |
| ijuz_ | Keybuk: looks like it's nothing special such a template http://openoffice.blogs.com/openoffice/2006/03/templates_makin.html | 02:16 |
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| pitti | doko: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArchiveCleanupStatus | 02:44 |
| siretart | is there currently some congestion in the (source) NEW queue? | 02:45 |
| seb128 | no | 02:46 |
| seb128 | why? | 02:46 |
| seb128 | it was empty like one week ago | 02:46 |
| siretart | I wonder if there is a problem with the emacs22 package, it was uploaded on 07/07 | 02:46 |
| seb128 | pitti wants to use the debian version | 02:47 |
| ScottK | pitti: I got a reject notification for my evolution-python sync, but no reason. Do you have time to discuss or should I e-mail you? | 02:47 |
| seb128 | we just discussed it briefly though | 02:47 |
| siretart | pitti: why? mwolson is doing a great job on the package! | 02:47 |
| seb128 | ScottK: I did already synced it yesterday | 02:48 |
| pitti | siretart: I don't see why we should have two parallel packagers? | 02:48 |
| ScottK | Ah. That'll do it. Thanks seb128. | 02:48 |
| pitti | siretart: we should just sync Debian's and put the doc in main | 02:48 |
| siretart | pitti: because debian strips off documentation and such. there is no need for this in ubuntu | 02:48 |
| siretart | pitti: emacs without the manual is close to worthless | 02:48 |
| siretart | seriously | 02:48 |
| seb128 | siretart: there is a package with documentation though | 02:48 |
| seb128 | siretart: we can just make emacs22 depends on the other package | 02:48 |
| siretart | seb128: in non-free. we don't want documentation to be seperate in ubuntu | 02:49 |
| pitti | siretart: Depends: -doc :) | 02:49 |
| pitti | siretart: Recommends:, though | 02:49 |
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| siretart | pitti: so you want to tell mwholson that all his work on https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-elisp/emacs/ubuntu was for nothing? | 02:50 |
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| seb128 | siretart: why should be work to divert from Debian when not required? | 02:50 |
| seb128 | siretart: we tend to sync when we can | 02:50 |
| siretart | seb128: have you looked at the branch history? please do | 02:51 |
| siretart | anyways, it would be really nice if some archive admins could reposond to Michaels verbose emails to his emacs22 plans in ubuntu he posted to the mailing list | 02:52 |
| siretart | we shouldn't let him in the dark with these decisions | 02:52 |
| siretart | s/let/leave/ | 02:53 |
| pitti | (later, presentation here) | 02:53 |
| seb128 | siretart: will do, quite busy at distro sprint this week though | 02:57 |
| seb128 | siretart: and emacs22 is not easy to review, would be easier for everybody to base on Debian | 02:57 |
| siretart | and therefore we reject very good and enthusiastic contributions to ubuntu? :/ | 02:59 |
| seb128 | we said we reject anything? | 03:00 |
| siretart | well, in some ways you said so before | 03:00 |
| seb128 | you want to stop syncing only to not drop work done aside from Debian? | 03:00 |
| seb128 | every time we sync we drop some Ubuntu contribution | 03:01 |
| seb128 | I agree we should not discourage contributions so might want to accept the emacs22 from NEW and sync from Debian later | 03:01 |
| siretart | that's what I'm basically suggesting | 03:02 |
| siretart | we of course want to regularily merge with debian | 03:02 |
| seb128 | so it's going to takes sometime because emacs22 is not trivial to review | 03:02 |
| siretart | I know | 03:03 |
| pitti | siretart: hm, I didn't see anything on ubuntu-devel@; which ML was it on? | 03:07 |
| seb128 | ScottK: evolution-python is not distributable btw, not sure if we will accept it | 03:08 |
| seb128 | ScottK: you might want to open a bug on Debian saying they should ship the GPL text in the tarball | 03:08 |
| siretart | pitti: ubuntu-motu for sure, not that sure for ubuntu-devel | 03:08 |
| ScottK | Ah. I will do so. | 03:08 |
| ScottK | Thanks seb128. | 03:08 |
| seb128 | np | 03:08 |
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| ScottK | Interesting. debian/copyright says: "License (note that upstream accidentally ships the LPGL, but the files say GPL)" | 03:11 |
| seb128 | right | 03:11 |
| seb128 | so it's GPL | 03:11 |
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| seb128 | and the license text should be in the tarball | 03:12 |
| ScottK | Yes. | 03:12 |
| ScottK | ...Debian's NEW reviews. | 03:12 |
| azeem | ScottK: Debian's NEW review actually looks at the copyright boilerplate in the various source files rather than COPYING, I think | 03:13 |
| asac_the_2nd | pitti: high latency ... yes the mirrors should after all be updated now or really soon | 03:13 |
| asac_the_2nd | pitti: i was not sure if the main bug means: gutsy task | 03:14 |
| seb128 | azeem: still the tarball should ship a copy of the license | 03:15 |
| azeem | sure | 03:15 |
| seb128 | it doesn' in this case | 03:15 |
| pitti | asac_the_2nd: 'development release'; I closed it now, thanks | 03:15 |
| asac_the_2nd | ok cool | 03:15 |
| seb128 | brb | 03:16 |
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| Riddell | doko, pitti: kdebindings uploaded without gtk1.2 | 03:31 |
| === pitti hugs Riddell | ||
| doko | nice! | 03:31 |
| pitti | calc: do you prepare an oo.o-l10n upload as well? that one still b-deps on the old portaudio (18), but that's in universe now in favour of 19 | 03:33 |
| calc | pitti: hmm yea i probably should do that | 03:34 |
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| pitti | zul: libvirt is uninstallable because it depends on xen 3.0; can you please have a look at this? | 03:44 |
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| pitti | fabbione: ^ actually, that's your baby, isn't it? | 03:45 |
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| fabbione | pitti: it?s one of my B-D but i didn?t package it | 03:45 |
| zul | pitti: sure | 03:45 |
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| fabbione | pitti: would be nice if somebody could update it... with Xen knowledge even better | 03:46 |
| fabbione | zul: thanks | 03:46 |
| pitti | fabbione: ok; seems that zul is at it | 03:46 |
| pitti | zul: cheers! | 03:46 |
| fabbione | pitti: yeps.. thatnks | 03:46 |
| zul | no probs | 03:46 |
| pitti | that also explains cman uninstallability and such | 03:46 |
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| fabbione | pitti: yes.. it?s all connected.. | 03:47 |
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| persia | pitti: Regarding REVU packages rejected during NEW processing: Do you have any objections to using REVU for communication between sponsorees and sponsors? | 03:48 |
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| Hobbsee | persia: if revu actually had the same login as lp... | 03:49 |
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| pitti | persia: no, I don't, and I'm not familiar with the revu procedures | 03:49 |
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| Hobbsee | persia: and if it actually kept cookies... | 03:49 |
| persia | pitti: OK. Thanks. There was just some confusion. | 03:49 |
| pitti | persia: it just seems to me that a package which just had a license problem which got fixed needs to be REVUed again | 03:49 |
| pitti | persia: erm, needs *not* | 03:49 |
| persia | Hobbsee: Yeah - those would be neat, but it's still a handy dget'able place. | 03:49 |
| Hobbsee | true | 03:49 |
| pitti | persia: if that's common practice, it should be done, of course :) | 03:50 |
| persia | pitti: I totally agree. In that case, I only think REVU is a handy place to upload, and that a single advocate (probably the original sponsor, but perhaps anyone else) should be able to upload after checking. | 03:50 |
| pitti | ok | 03:50 |
| persia | pitti: Thanks for the feedback. | 03:50 |
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| pitti | F**K | 04:13 |
| pitti | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/2.2.1-5ubuntu3/+build/357598 | 04:13 |
| pitti | I hate hate hate OO.o | 04:13 |
| StevenK | Hrm. Why did glew get demoted 8 minutes ago? | 04:13 |
| pitti | StevenK: it does not have any reverse dependencies and the library was already in universe | 04:14 |
| Hobbsee | pitti: it probably hates you too | 04:14 |
| StevenK | pitti: It has reverse Build-depends in main: rss-glx | 04:14 |
| pitti | infinity: is adare maybe the wrong buildd to build OO.o? It failed three times in a row now with a timeout error | 04:14 |
| pitti | StevenK: hmm, then checkrdepends is stupid | 04:15 |
| infinity | pitti: I may have the technology to fix that. | 04:15 |
| Mithrandir | infinity: and appropriately-sized hammer? | 04:16 |
| pitti | infinity: cover it with your special buildd admin magic hat? | 04:16 |
| StevenK | pitti: Actually, maybe not. glew builds libglew1.4-dev which provides libglew-dev, which is what rss-glx wants. | 04:16 |
| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: you and hammering poor objects.... | 04:16 |
| Mithrandir | Hobbsee: buildds are not poor objects. They _like_ being hammered. | 04:17 |
| Hobbsee | heh, right then | 04:17 |
| StevenK | No, I agree with Mithrandir. | 04:17 |
| === Hobbsee concludes that Mithrandir might be a buildd as well, and therefore hammers Mithrandir | ||
| StevenK | They *liked* it when I threw 62 rebuilds at them. | 04:17 |
| pitti | *munch* *munch* | 04:17 |
| === StevenK mutters "Bloody curl" under his breath. | ||
| Hobbsee | StevenK: does this mean you'll never touch curl again? | 04:18 |
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| StevenK | Hopefully. | 04:18 |
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| === persia gleefully imagines a migration to a new libcurl4 next week | ||
| === StevenK hangs persia up by his hair | ||
| pitti | StevenK: I cleaned gutsy_probs, anastacia, and NBS a bit harder, next publisher run should have some light | 04:20 |
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| StevenK | pitti: Which hopefully isn't an on-coming train. :-) | 04:20 |
| StevenK | pitti: So what do we do about rss-glx? | 04:20 |
| Hobbsee | what's wrong with rss-glx? | 04:20 |
| StevenK | glew was demoted | 04:21 |
| pitti | StevenK: oh, I moved glew back to main | 04:21 |
| StevenK | Ah, right. | 04:21 |
| ogra | StevenK, huh ? | 04:21 |
| pitti | StevenK: it was just due to my stupidity, after all | 04:21 |
| === ogra wasnt aware | ||
| calc | pitti: dumb ooo failed on ppc again :( | 04:21 |
| pitti | checkrdepends <- does not know about virtual packages | 04:21 |
| pitti | calc: I just noticed, and asked infinity to treat it with some special love | 04:21 |
| calc | pitti: for the same reason too, sig 15 after 149mi | 04:22 |
| pitti | calc: adare is apparently unsuitable | 04:22 |
| calc | pitti: ok thanks! :) | 04:22 |
| calc | hmm ooo reminds me of NKOTB song ;) | 04:22 |
| StevenK | Oh good God | 04:22 |
| === StevenK kills calc | ||
| calc | lol | 04:23 |
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| === calc wishes for play music over irc function, so he could torture everyone with the same song ;) | ||
| StevenK | For those who can't expand NKOTB, consider yourself lucky. | 04:24 |
| === Hobbsee wishes for a stab people through their computers function, to use on calc | ||
| jsgotangco | haha | 04:24 |
| infinity | pitti: Should be fixed. | 04:24 |
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| Hobbsee | hi spam | 04:24 |
| === StevenK kills calc again, *harder* | ||
| jsgotangco | hey | 04:24 |
| pitti | infinity: yay you | 04:24 |
| calc | StevenK: hehe | 04:24 |
| calc | for anyone who doesn't know what i was talking about, here you go, if you look don't blame me for gouging your eyes out later ;) http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/You-Got-It-The-Right-Stuff-lyrics-New-Kids-On-The-Block/9CD3256205EB3F62482568B90022130B | 04:25 |
| === StevenK plans a trip to London. | ||
| StevenK | Evidently, killing over IRC isn't giving the right impression. | 04:26 |
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| calc | hehe i leave tomorrow, i'm safe for now ;) | 04:26 |
| calc | you can get me in Boston at UDS | 04:26 |
| StevenK | Is that a promise? | 04:26 |
| === Hobbsee suspects that this might be a fun song to add to her myspace page.... | ||
| === StevenK grins evilly | ||
| calc | Hobbsee: lol yea | 04:26 |
| StevenK | Hobbsee: Your myspace page is already evil enough without a pre-boy band boy band polluting it. | 04:27 |
| calc | i'm pretty sure you would have to be a teen in the early 90s to get the full torture part of the joke ;) | 04:27 |
| StevenK | I was a teen in the early 90s | 04:27 |
| calc | StevenK: i'm sorry ;) | 04:27 |
| StevenK | Yes, so I am. | 04:27 |
| StevenK | am I, even | 04:28 |
| StevenK | See, I'm so cut up! | 04:28 |
| calc | as was i, hence the constant reminder of that song anytime i see reference of ooo | 04:28 |
| StevenK | I had managed to all but forget about NKOTB ... | 04:28 |
| StevenK | calc: So, eat flaming death! :-P | 04:28 |
| calc | StevenK: muhahaha >:-) | 04:29 |
| Hobbsee | StevenK: now, i dont know about that... | 04:29 |
| thom | StevenK: it could be worse, it could be kris kross | 04:29 |
| StevenK | AAAAAAAARRRGGH! | 04:29 |
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| infinity | Don't talk smack about Kriss Kross. | 04:29 |
| Mithrandir | I think we should all stab calc for starting this conversation. | 04:29 |
| thom | or salt'n'pepa | 04:30 |
| StevenK | Agreed | 04:30 |
| StevenK | GAAH | 04:30 |
| infinity | thom: Zofia and I were dancing to SnP, no less than two weeks ago... | 04:30 |
| thom | Mithrandir: defenestration from the 27th floor would do the job admirably | 04:30 |
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| infinity | (At a metal club, no less...) | 04:30 |
| thom | infinity: post-ironic! | 04:30 |
| seb128 | doko: new ant doesn't want to build on amd64 | 04:30 |
| === StevenK convulses | ||
| Mithrandir | thom: true. | 04:31 |
| StevenK | (While Slayer plays) | 04:31 |
| doko | seb128: seen, but builds in debian unstable :-/ | 04:31 |
| calc | Jump! Jump! ;) | 04:31 |
| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: no, i suggest just locking him in a basement indefinetly, so the only thing he can do is fix ooo | 04:31 |
| thom | jump up jump up and get down | 04:31 |
| StevenK | calc: GAH! DIE! | 04:31 |
| calc | Hobbsee: hmm i'm glad Mithrandir is leaving tonight then ;) | 04:32 |
| Hobbsee | calc: he can still harm you before then. | 04:32 |
| seb128 | doko, pitti: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8471718/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-amd64.ant_1.7.0-1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 04:32 |
| calc | thom: hmm thats another group, that i forgot who it is | 04:32 |
| thom | calc: house of pain? | 04:32 |
| seb128 | "GC Warning: Out of Memory! Returning NIL!" | 04:32 |
| calc | thom: hmm probably so | 04:32 |
| thom | hey, bad 90s rap | 04:32 |
| thom | hammertime! | 04:32 |
| StevenK | /part | 04:33 |
| calc | wasn't that 80s | 04:33 |
| StevenK | Hammer was early 90s | 04:33 |
| StevenK | And I don't know how or why I remember that. | 04:33 |
| === StevenK bashes calc's and thom's heads together. Now shush! | ||
| calc | hmm right at 1990 | 04:34 |
| calc | thats why i thought it was in 80s | 04:34 |
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| thom | mvo: afternoon | 04:38 |
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| nny | Hello, I am interested in hosting a repository for a specific set of packages. I plan on doing this in combination with re-authoring a live cd stripped down specifically with a particular purpose in mind. I also think it would be wise to allow others to use the version of ubuntu I have created. I know about naming conventions that are not allowed, but want to make sure I am going about this the correct way. Any advice is a | 05:04 |
| nny | ppreciated. I can be specific if asked | 05:04 |
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| geser | pitti: Hi, do you have an idea why the crash bug team for universe is subscribed to a crash report for a package in main? | 05:07 |
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| pitti | infinity: I just kicked ubuntu livefs builds; on king it works, but on terranova it failed due to obsolete apt (failure to install tasks); is that just a mirroring race condition? BuildLove.out is not very helpful since it does not show any versions | 05:08 |
| pitti | infinity: s/Love/Log/ (erk) | 05:10 |
| zul | pitti: fixed | 05:10 |
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| pitti | zul: thanks | 05:10 |
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| infinity | pitti: I'd assume the chroot auto-updating hasn't/hadn't happened yet. It's daily. | 05:25 |
| infinity | pitti: I can do it manually, if you need to test. | 05:25 |
| pitti | infinity: ah, ok; I just wondered why it was done on amd64 already (current live images should be good) | 05:26 |
| pitti | infinity: nevermind, it'll settle over the weekend | 05:26 |
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| seb128 | hi ScislaC | 05:33 |
| bryyce | seb128: http://pastebin.ca/617871 | 05:33 |
| ScislaC | hi seb128 | 05:33 |
| ScislaC | note that all updates are generally done via synaptic on my system | 05:34 |
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| ScislaC | but dpkg with forcing or purging don't scare me if you need me to do it | 05:34 |
| ScislaC | don't = doesn't ;) | 05:35 |
| seb128 | ScislaC: do you get the same error if you run sudo gtk-update-icon-cache /usr/share/icons/hicolor? | 05:36 |
| ScislaC | seb128: yes... the "bad image index" and "The generated cache was invalid." | 05:37 |
| seb128 | ScislaC: does it work if you move /usr/share/icons/hicolor/icon-theme.cache somewhere else and then retry? | 05:38 |
| ScislaC | seb128: same error | 05:40 |
| seb128 | weird | 05:40 |
| ScislaC | heh... that's not to reassuring :) | 05:41 |
| seb128 | you likely have something installed there that confuse the cache | 05:41 |
| shirish | seb128: I have similar issue but with openoffice stuff. please see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29798/ & if there is a specific bug no. associated with it , the icon theme stuff it would be nice. | 05:41 |
| seb128 | shirish: this one is an openoffice bug and fixed version has been uploaded yesterday | 05:41 |
| ScislaC | to=too (damn fingers) | 05:41 |
| seb128 | that's due to the lack of index.theme | 05:41 |
| shirish | seb128: I just updated to the fixed version now. | 05:41 |
| seb128 | ScislaC: for some reason your cache seems to be corrupted, dunno why | 05:41 |
| ScislaC | seb128: any way to clean it out and make it happy? | 05:42 |
| simira | desrt: are you in London? | 05:42 |
| seb128 | ScislaC: maybe you have installed a package which put a broken image to /usr/share/icons/hicolor, not sure how to figure if that's the case and which one though | 05:42 |
| ScislaC | seb128: the thing is, this all started with official updates... as I haven't installed anything "new" in at least a month (by new I mean other than what ubuntu-desktop adds itself) | 05:44 |
| seb128 | ScislaC: when did it start? | 05:45 |
| ScislaC | seb128: roughly a week ago | 05:45 |
| seb128 | ScislaC: did you open a bug? | 05:46 |
| ScislaC | but I figured it was all part of the normal testing/upgrade woes | 05:46 |
| azeem | W 2 | 05:46 |
| ScislaC | seb128: it started with packages that there were known issues with, so I didn't file anything new | 05:46 |
| azeem | oops, sorry | 05:46 |
| seb128 | ScislaC: ls /usr/share/icons/hicolor ? | 05:46 |
| ScislaC | but it spread from there | 05:46 |
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| seb128 | ScislaC: well, you icon cache gets corrupted for some reason, there is one bug about somebody else getting similar problems but lot changed in a week and it's better to report issues when they start | 05:47 |
| ScislaC | seb128: http://pastebin.ca/617889 | 05:48 |
| seb128 | ScislaC: dpkg -S /usr/share/icons/hicolor/autopackage-installer.png ? | 05:48 |
| seb128 | ScislaC: does it work better if you remove that file | 05:48 |
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| shirish | -S is for show? | 05:49 |
| ScislaC | seb128: if it hadn't have started with packages that others said they had issues with, I would have... given that I work with bryyce on Inkscape, I hate going through the tracker and dealing with closing tons of dupe reports. | 05:49 |
| Hobbsee | shirish: search. man dpkg | 05:49 |
| ScislaC | seb128: said not found on that dpkg line | 05:50 |
| seb128 | ScislaC: yeah, looking at open bugs and try to not send a duplicate is a good idea usually ;) | 05:50 |
| seb128 | ScislaC: does removing it makes things better? | 05:50 |
| ScislaC | seb128: hmmm... that seemed to help it... it generated the cache successfully | 05:51 |
| shirish | Hobbsee: thanx :) | 05:51 |
| seb128 | ScislaC: ok, so you installed something out of the packaging system | 05:51 |
| seb128 | which installed this icons at the wrong place | 05:51 |
| seb128 | and break the cache generation | 05:51 |
| seb128 | might be some autopackage crack | 05:52 |
| seb128 | not an Ubuntu bug ;) | 05:52 |
| seb128 | though GTK+ should deal better with those | 05:52 |
| ScislaC | seb128: I haven't touched my autopackage stuff in over 6 months though | 05:52 |
| ScislaC | so this just surfaced due to other things getting better and seeing the issue? | 05:52 |
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| bryyce | scislac, could that bad icon have come from an inkscape build? | 05:53 |
| seb128 | ScislaC: maybe GTK+ was not so sensitive about it | 05:53 |
| shirish | Hobbsee: the lo color KDE1 (icon stuff) is also part of 125400 or is there a different bug filed for that? I ask as I have only GNOME & XFCE so that icon stuff should not be there. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29798/ for reference | 05:54 |
| Hobbsee | shirish: i believe calc answered that? | 05:54 |
| ScislaC | bryyce: I would sure hope not... I compile myself and the AP was for something from forever ago | 05:54 |
| === ScottK wonders about maybe another package being corrupted by the same debconf (was it debconf) problem that bit OOO? | ||
| shirish | Hobbsee: he said that upstream should remove it, If somebody has filed a bug in launchpad about it giving some reference to a bug filed upstream, I would like to subscribe to it. | 05:55 |
| Hobbsee | shirish: then i suggest you search for said bug. | 05:55 |
| === Hobbsee is not the walking dictionary, particularly on bugs that are not in kde* packages | ||
| seb128 | ScislaC: thanks for the bug report and the help debugging it ;) | 05:56 |
| shirish | Hobbsee: I'm not trying to be difficult, I dunno what to search for, is there a package named locolor or what? | 05:56 |
| Hobbsee | shirish: apt-cache search locolor will tell you that, apt-cache madison will show you what the source package is. | 05:56 |
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| shirish | oh ok, I need to get a hang of both this things | 05:57 |
| Hobbsee | i dont know much about locolor, iconcache, and the like | 05:57 |
| ScislaC | seb128: hey, thank YOU for helping solve that :) | 05:57 |
| shirish | Hobbsee: both things returned empty :( | 05:58 |
| Hobbsee | shirish: then it's not a package | 05:58 |
| ScislaC | maybe I'll finally be able to get back into Gnome once the packages get right... | 05:58 |
| === ScislaC crosses fingers | ||
| Hobbsee | shirish: as in, the first will find the binary packages, and the latter will tell you the source package, among other things | 05:58 |
| simira | where's the nearest place to get smoe chocolate here? | 05:59 |
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| Hobbsee | simira: haha | 06:00 |
| Hobbsee | simira: no chocolate for you! | 06:00 |
| simira | Hobbsee: oh, yes. I'll just have to wait until after dinner ;) And that's in an hours time. | 06:01 |
| Hobbsee | simira: awwww | 06:02 |
| Hobbsee | simira: darn you. i'm wanting some chocolate now! | 06:02 |
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| simira | can someone push Tollef in my direction? | 06:37 |
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| mikmorg | cjwatson: Hello | 06:39 |
| ubuntuEdgy | helooo | 06:42 |
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| simira | Hobbsee: yihaa! | 06:43 |
| Hobbsee | simira: :) | 06:43 |
| Hobbsee | simira: now, i'll need that back, before i next have to go into work | 06:43 |
| simira | Hobbsee: sure, here you go. Hope I won't need it in Birmingham | 06:48 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 06:48 |
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| jcole | anyone here own a gps device and use it on linux? is there any drive by turn gps software in ubuntu? | 07:13 |
| mjr | this is not the channel you're looking for | 07:15 |
| mjr | you may go about your business | 07:16 |
| jcole | ya, sorry, i posted in #ubuntu | 07:16 |
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| ScislaC | seb128: I hate to bug you... so now that I can finally get back in Gnome (yay!), it doesn't looks like gtk themes are working... no matter what I choose it doesn't change anything... any command-line way to debug this? | 07:29 |
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| jcole | ScislaC: try running gnome-settings-daemon | 07:30 |
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| ScislaC | jcole: whoa... that got everything back to normal... any ideas as to why that didn't start? (going to check my sessions now) | 07:32 |
| jcole | ScislaC: are you running something funky like XGL | 07:32 |
| ScislaC | jcole: yes... but this didn't happen before | 07:32 |
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| jcole | ScislaC: there you go... gnome-settings-daemon needs to run on the same DISPLAY as gnome is running on | 07:33 |
| jcole | ScislaC: XGL is an evil hack that does not work well | 07:33 |
| jcole | ScislaC: if you are using ati, use the open source driver with aiglx and regain sanity | 07:34 |
| ScislaC | jcole: agreed... and ATI sucks for not letting me use AIGLX ;) | 07:34 |
| ScislaC | my current card isn't supported by the radeon driver | 07:34 |
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| ScislaC | jcole: but I'm curious as to why this changed... seems weird because as of last week gnome-settings-daemon launched on the correct display. Eh, either way... thank you for clearing that up for me :) | 07:35 |
| jcole | ScislaC: maybe check your gdm script | 07:36 |
| jcole | ScislaC: an ubuntu update might have set it "back" | 07:36 |
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| wasabi | hmm, do we have a prefered inetd? | 09:46 |
| geser | does Ubuntu install a inetd at all by default? | 09:47 |
| wasabi | don't think so | 09:47 |
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| Rod | Hi | 10:01 |
| Rod | i read the topic. ... but still :p You people have the knowledge to help me here | 10:02 |
| Rod | wireless network works under 7.07, under gutsy it doesnt. I copied over the old interfaces file but that isnt enough. Module is the same. What else do i have to copy over to have the exact same network settings ? | 10:03 |
| ScottK | Rod: Try #ubuntu+1 | 10:03 |
| Rod | thanks ScottK , wasnt aware of that one :) Goodday' | 10:04 |
| munckfish | slomo: have you got time to chat about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/service-discovery-applet/+bug/96433? | 10:09 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 96433 in service-discovery-applet "[apport] service-discovery-applet crashed with GError in connect()" [Undecided,Fix released] | 10:09 |
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| mikmor1 | cjwaston: ping | 11:09 |
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| cjwatson | mikmor1: offline until Monday in about one minute | 11:20 |
| cjwatson | got your mail though | 11:20 |
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| mikmor1 | cjwatson: Thanks | 11:22 |
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| cjwatson | mikmor1: ... and you have mail now. I hope it works :-) | 11:34 |
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