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[03:11] raar. sorry. === nnonix [n=brad@bkjohnson.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:18] bug #123664 is annoying me :). I pushed it upstream, and there's a (fairly small) patch to fix it which will be in 2.19.6. Should I prepare a debdiff against our current g-p-m, or just wait for 2.19.6 to be released & (help) package that? [03:18] Launchpad bug 123664 in gnome-power-manager "Should not count time suspended in battery profile" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/123664 === nnonix [n=brad@bkjohnson.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === alex-weej [n=alex@82.23.188.238] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ryu [n=chris@unaffiliated/ryu] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Gone] === maniacmusician_ [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-004.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:25] I say don't bother patching. gnome-power-manager should be included in the final GNOME 2.20 release, shouldn't it? [03:26] I believe so [03:26] 2.19.6 should come in with the rest of GNOME 2.19.6. [03:27] That shouldn't be far off. [03:28] Fair enough. I'll see if I can help package the new uv then. [03:28] Well, 2.19.5 was released yesterday, so maybe a while. [03:30] hey mneptok === minghua wants to thank RAOF for fixing that bug. It annoys me as well. === RAOF didn't fix it. Just report it upstream [03:32] RAOF: Thank you for reporting, then. :-) [03:32] That I'll lay claim to :) === nnonix [n=brad@bkjohnson.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === luisbg [n=luisbg@190.Red-88-24-23.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nnonix [n=brad@bkjohnson.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nnonix [n=brad@bkjohnson.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:15] zul: heya [04:15] There is no Dana. 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[07:21] elpargo_: what do you want to do? [07:22] Burgundavia, I want to call the correct program to handle a file from code. === hggdh [n=hggdh@pool-71-170-39-244.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:23] you want to open a file with an external app? === hggdh [n=hggdh@pool-71-170-39-244.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [07:23] Burgundavia, no no from my code I want to execute the same function. [07:24] try in #gnome-hackers on gimp.net [07:24] Burgundavia, yes but I'll like to delegate that to the nautilus system, i find it very good, and there is no need to redo the wheel [07:25] no, I am saying talk with the GNOME developers on that channel [07:25] they will tell you how and that is a better channel for that [07:25] ok thanks [07:26] no worries === desrt [n=desrt@dhcp-0-20-af-d2-7c-3.cpe.mountaincable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nnonix [n=brad@bkjohnson.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.9.235.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nnonix [n=brad@bkjohnson.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mthaddon [n=mthaddon@canonical/launchpad/mthaddon] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nnonix [n=brad@bkjohnson.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === iwj [n=ian@xenophobe.extern.relativity.greenend.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nnonix [n=brad@bkjohnson.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gman [i=gman@nat/sun/x-ccd9ae1781f1b1fc] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nnonix [n=brad@bkjohnson.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nnonix [n=brad@bkjohnson.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sid [n=unstable@tor/regular/sid] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@124.64.105.7] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Czubek [n=Damian@dns.pwr.wroc.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nnonix [n=brad@bkjohnson.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gman_ [i=gman@nat/sun/x-f07a96f2809ebfbf] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:21] Hobbsee, would you be able to look over another lirc upload (promise this one is smaller than the request the other night)? === sid [n=unstable@tor/regular/sid] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === andrea__ [n=andrea@host185-175.pool8250.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nnonix [n=brad@bkjohnson.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nnonix [n=brad@bkjohnson.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === oni [n=oni@p548321B8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === BenC [i=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel === elpargo__ [n=elpargo@200samana81.codetel.net.do] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pbn [i=pbn@wopr.geekshells.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel === raphink [i=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel === carlos [n=carlos@canonical/launchpad/carlos] has joined #ubuntu-devel === IanC26 [n=IanC26@2002:908b:a54a:4:216:6fff:fe39:ff6e] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cprov [n=cprov@canonical/launchpad/cprov] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fabbione [i=fabbione@nat/canonical/x-cea5cbb6e531e3b0] has joined #ubuntu-devel === desrt [n=desrt@dhcp-0-20-af-d2-7c-3.cpe.mountaincable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mathiaz [i=mathiaz@nat/canonical/x-cf6ec242f5667825] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:03] fabbione: ping === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nnonix [n=brad@bkjohnson.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:05] fabbione: i just merged afbinit, can you check the final debdiff at http://paste.dunnewind.net/256 and say me if you're agree with it === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-252-218.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seb128 [i=seb@nat/canonical/x-d60767e7e131af8c] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:16] Sp4rKy: looking === chand| [n=rsamson@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:18] Sp4rKy: looks ok, can you please make sure to send our diff to the debian maintainer? at least the include stuff... he can?t really merge the section === nnonix [n=brad@bkjohnson.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:18] fabbione: ok [10:19] so i request a merge on lp and mail the debdiff to the debian maint ? [10:19] hm? just send a mail to the maintainer with the diff for the includes [10:19] and upload the package to ubuntu [10:19] i don?t see the need to open an lp request [10:19] hu ? [10:20] i don't understand well ^^ [10:20] it should be a merge process, no ? [10:20] yes but a merge process does not require an LP request [10:20] just upload it to the archive [10:21] i can't upload myself :) [10:21] ok, then ask for a sponsorship... or give me a few minutes and I will do it [10:21] do all backports have to be pushed by a core-dev? [10:21] just need to power up my sparc to test it [10:21] fabbione: ok :) === BenC_ [i=bcollins@nat/canonical/x-d752942d68e56008] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:21] i wait your test [10:21] and then i'll mail the debian maint [10:21] gnomefreak: core-dev can upload directly to backports, but most are requested as sync are. [10:21] *syncs [10:21] (ie. archive admins do them) [10:22] someone backported hal and i thought that was one of the no no packages to backport [10:22] its borked anyway in feisty backports === pitti [i=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:22] Hi pitti. [10:22] Hi Fujitsu [10:23] morning pitti [10:23] Sp4rKy: can you put the debdiff somewhere wget?able? [10:23] morning pitti [10:24] fabbione: of course === StevenK waves to pitti === gnomefreak kind of worries about that backport TBH [10:24] ill keep looking to see who did it [10:24] hey Hobbsee, hi StevenK [10:24] fabbione: http://people.dunnewind.net/maxence/afbinit_debdiff === pitti kills the NBS list, now that the kernel bits built [10:24] Yay! === calc [i=ccheney@nat/canonical/x-eb48d7c6456cc1af] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:25] gnomefreak: blame pitti [10:25] pitti: NBS everything out of the archive that's zero size, plus you can probably kill libcegui-mk2-0c2a. [10:25] Hobbsee: i would but he was removed from maintainer feild [10:25] field [10:25] gnomefreak: he's uploaded it [10:25] Sp4rKy: thanks [10:25] gnomefreak: [10:25] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/0.5.9-1ubuntu2~feisty1 === nnonix [n=brad@bkjohnson.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:26] pitti: isnt hal one of those packages that shouldnt be backported? [10:26] pitti: And can you puhlease kick glew, parrot and libgeda out of NEW? [10:26] StevenK: seb128 is looking at NEW [10:26] fabbione: np [10:26] gnomefreak: why? [10:27] pitti: Fair enough. [10:27] gnomefreak: I did backport a gutsy hal to feisty, because it fixes stuff for quite a lot of people === calc_ [i=ccheney@nat/canonical/x-b4edfb66c5e0a4ed] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:27] pitti: Okay, will you regenerate the list after you kill everything zero-sized? [10:27] StevenK: yep [10:27] pitti: Cool, thanks. [10:27] StevenK: in an hour, after next publisher run [10:27] Sounds fine. [10:28] pitti: i thought due to depends it shouldnt have been. btw its broken in feisty [10:28] pitti: bug 125717 [10:28] Launchpad bug 125717 in feisty-backports "No initscript in hal 0.5.9" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125717 [10:28] gnomefreak: --verbose, please [10:28] gnomefreak: that's weird [10:28] gnomefreak: oh, it is not supposed to have one [10:28] pitti: im not running it in feisty i am hearing about this [10:29] gnomefreak: /etc/dbus/event.d/20hal [10:29] hal *never* had an init script until recent gutsy [10:32] speaking of which, where can I get a gutsy-cd in this office? [10:32] simira! [10:33] pitti: hes gonna comment on bug i hope === nnonix [n=brad@bkjohnson.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:35] Hobbsee :) === simira waves from London === agoliveira [i=adilson@nat/canonical/x-2967742f1de0c159] has joined #ubuntu-devel === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-252-237-96.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:35] simira: your'e in london now, hey? nice! [10:35] simira: how's the view? === dholbach [i=daniel@nat/canonical/x-8edba17882819bdb] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:36] simira: download it? the net connection doesn't suck, especially not to *.u.c [10:36] Sp4rKy: uploaded === calc_ [i=ccheney@nat/canonical/x-9f4f8e182f971634] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:36] fabbione: ok thx [10:36] so i mail the dd [10:36] Sp4rKy: np.. [10:36] Mithrandir: could you give back kde4graphics and kde4network? [10:37] Riddell: backgegibt [10:37] Mithrandir: pardon? [10:38] Riddell: given-back [10:38] thanks [10:38] cjwatson: you were right last night, your fix works and I am a muppet. === Hobbsee waits for /nick MithrandirMuppet [10:39] elmo: true. Then I just need to find someone nice person to give/lend me a cd :) === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-devel === calc [i=ccheney@nat/canonical/x-3526ca2462ca4a56] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Keybuk [i=scott@nat/canonical/x-9a77aa98bf3302ba] has joined #ubuntu-devel === calc_ [i=ccheney@nat/canonical/x-93d9525b22b96b13] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nnonix [n=brad@bkjohnson.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fabbione_ [i=fabbione@nat/canonical/x-c9d5b97726e8f960] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mvo [i=egon@nat/canonical/x-0777e5e27957adaf] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:54] guten morgen, mvo === Zdra [n=zdra@10.162-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:56] hey Hobbsee === calc [i=ccheney@nat/canonical/x-a6fd50eddbc11eb3] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:00] cjwatson: http://err.no/tmp/mobile/mobile-dev ; it looks fairly sane to me, what do you think? === nags [n=nags@125.16.129.16] has joined #ubuntu-devel === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-devel === calc_ [i=ccheney@nat/canonical/x-35ccb8b44e421fb3] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seb128_ [i=seb@nat/canonical/x-c47976fd7043e5b0] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:09] pitti: Poke, regenerate NBS. :-) [11:12] seb128_: Can you puhlease kick glew, parrot and libgeda out of NEW, so the older libraries can be NBS'd when they have no rdepends? [11:12] StevenK: as I said, I need to wait for the publisher to finish [11:12] Oh duh, it isn't instant. [11:12] Sorry === jono [i=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nnonix [n=brad@bkjohnson.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === calc [i=ccheney@nat/canonical/x-b7273c8d46103dc7] has joined #ubuntu-devel === asac_the_2nd [i=asac@nat/canonical/x-13e20a105fe8c2e9] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:26] StevenK: looking === nnonix [n=brad@bkjohnson.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:26] seb128_: Thanks. === stdin [i=stdin@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bryce_ [i=bryce@nat/canonical/x-51938541ef1e09d9] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cjwatson_ [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === calc_ [i=ccheney@nat/canonical/x-01342946469cd438] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:29] StevenK: parrot didn't build on ia64 === zerbero__2 [n=jga@pD9E63E8B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:33] Wierd. No idea why, or how to fix it. === calc [i=ccheney@nat/canonical/x-7d8c5043d25b295a] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nnonix [n=brad@bkjohnson.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:34] It fails the same way on Debian, so I'm comforted by that. [11:36] well we try to NEW on all the arches in the same time [11:37] I can file a nastygram in Debian, but I doubt I know enough about Parrot internals to attempt to fix it. [11:37] Or have access to an ia64 [11:37] seb128_: as long as it FTBFS, it should be fine. [11:38] Mithrandir: ok [11:38] Mithrandir: It runs itself during the build and blows up. So it's impressive. [11:39] mvo: Your custom apt works perfectly for me. You're a rock star. === mvo hugs infinity [11:40] seb128_: And if you process bug 125586, we can kill rt3.6-apache off the NBS list. [11:40] Launchpad bug 125586 in request-tracker3.6 "[Sync request] Sync request-tracker3.6 (3.6.4-1) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125586 [11:41] mvo: Although, it took me about 5 minutes of confusion and a diff of the source to realise you'd renamed the variable. :P === pygi [n=mario@152-101.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:41] fabbione, around by any chance? [11:42] Mithrandir: germinate 0.31 synced for the next publisher run [11:43] pygi: yes? === anibal [n=anibal@debian/developer/anibal] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:43] fabbione, brasero built properly on sparc & ppc now ;) [11:43] pygi: ok cool [11:46] StevenK: synced === fabbione [i=fabbione@nat/canonical/x-c9d5b97726e8f960] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === fabbione [i=fabbione@nat/canonical/x-c9d5b97726e8f960] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:47] whops [11:47] seb128: Thanks! [11:48] StevenK: thank you for doing most of the work ;) === alex-weej [n=alex@82.23.188.238] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nnonix [n=brad@bkjohnson.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:49] 'k, time to crank NBS [11:49] pitti: Hurrah! [11:49] pitti: Ping me when it's finished smashing drescher? [11:50] sure [11:51] infinity: uhhh, sorry for that, I thought I had told you about it [11:52] mvo: got any current plans for fixing the metapackages from any component cant install recommends bug? [11:52] mvo: No one tells me anything. [11:52] infinity: or maybe you just don't listen what people say? ;) [11:53] Could be both. [11:53] mvo: what would the fix be? just hardcode the universe/metapackages, and multiverse/metapackages, in there too, like you have with multiverse? [11:53] Hobbsee: yes, but I have no timeline yet, please keep naging me about it so that I get to it eventually [11:53] Hobbsee: I think the fix would be either to suppoer regexp there or to allow a list of sections [11:53] seb128: I suspect it's a bit of both. :) [11:53] mvo: right. more things are missing this, now, not just *-r-e [11:54] mvo: how often do you wish to be nagged? :P [11:54] infinity: no one ever tells you anything so you don't bother to listen? :p [11:55] simira: Did you say something? [11:55] Hobbsee: once a day is enough ;) [11:55] mvo: :D [11:55] infinity: nothing important === Havis [n=Havis@adsl-dyn246.91-127-75.t-com.sk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === calc [i=ccheney@nat/canonical/x-b6cdc8cbb6bf68e0] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:07] StevenK: NBS updated [12:14] seb128: how do I reduce the font size in the gutsy gnome menus? (I managed to reduce all other in Appearance-settings) [12:14] &j ubuntu-gnome [12:14] uh === Gman [i=gman@nat/sun/x-0a03d26588555fa9] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:16] simira: You probably want to change the DPI setting in Appearance->Fonts->Details [12:16] Fujitsu: it's not going to be menu specific [12:16] Fujitsu: we (Scott) tried.... no effect [12:16] simira: it should follow the applications font [12:16] who changed and blew up the fonts anyway... === iwj [n=ian@xenophobe.extern.relativity.greenend.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:17] seb128: it definitely doesn't [12:18] simira: no idea then, looks like a bug [12:18] works fine on my laptop [12:20] seb128: a gnome- og x.org-bug? === Spads [i=spacehob@unaffiliated/spads] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:21] simira: would need to be debugged to say, but it's only the gnome-panel not changing I would say a GNOMEish bug [12:21] s/it's/if it's [12:21] seb128: yes, seems to me like it is [12:21] does restarting it makes a difference? [12:22] cjwatson: thanks; committed [12:25] seb128: logout/login seemed to fix it. Should I still report a bug for it, or does it have to be that way? === nnonix [n=brad@bkjohnson.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:27] simira: you can open a bug but since it doesn't happen on my box it's likely to stay open until somebody getting the bug look at it [12:29] seb128: ok === nnonix [n=brad@bkjohnson.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-25-229.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gman [i=gman@nat/sun/x-f3ad4598b96f87bd] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Watersevenub [n=Watersev@242-17.dial.nortenet.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shiyee [n=Shiyee@0x503e9557.abnxx4.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nnonix [n=brad@bkjohnson.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:53] mjg59: you have absolutely nothing to do today, have you? === Arcer [n=arcer@host182-155-static.104-80-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:55] hi all [12:55] excuse me for my english [12:56] someone known a gui kde-like for developing in C [12:56] ? [12:56] like devc in Windoes [12:56] Arcer: kdevelop is fairly good [12:56] oh thank :D [12:57] i'll install see later :D [12:57] maybe eclipse also [01:00] I use eclipse for java programming in Windows === amitk [i=amit@nat/canonical/x-dd286ef88abbfbd8] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nnonix [n=brad@bkjohnson.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:05] crimsun: ping [01:05] crimsun: unping === doko [i=doko@nat/canonical/x-ddd2f987f7fa27a8] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fnordus [n=dnall@24.84.160.227] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:09] seb128: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/125748 [01:09] Launchpad bug 125748 in compiz "compiz-{kde,gnome} does not depend on compiz-plugins" [Undecided,New] [01:13] Riddell: Why are kde4libs-data, kdepimlibs4 and kdepimlibs4-dev all marked as NBS? What replaces them? [01:13] StevenK: where is that listed? [01:13] StevenK: kde4libs-data -> kdelibs5-data [01:13] http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS/ [01:14] kdepimlibs4 -> kdepimlibs5 [01:14] kdepimlibs4-dev -> kdepimlibs5-dev [01:14] I may well have forgotten to put in Replaces: on various of those [01:14] pitti: Thank you ever so much for the binary removals. [01:15] Hobbsee: are you asleep yet? [01:15] simira: She is probably dinner'ing [01:15] oh [01:16] simira: kylem does a pretty good hiding act [01:16] persia: no problem :) [01:16] calc: he might be busy then.... === StevenK prepares to rip binaries off libgeda20. === nnonix [n=brad@bkjohnson.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === EtienneG [n=etienne@ubuntu/member/EtienneG] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:22] StevenK: Why? [01:22] Oh, NBS? === StevenK nods. libgeda20 is NBS. === nnonix [n=brad@bkjohnson.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Fujitsu is guilty of having that synced. Want me to handle it? [01:26] No, it's fine. It's 5 packages, and I [01:26] 'm just about half-way through it. [01:26] And it all scripted/scriptable. === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:26] Thanks. === StevenK fires off 5 builds. [01:30] pitti: I'm unclear why nic-firmware, scsi-firmware and ubuntu-modules are listed in NBS. I'm probably missing something. === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nags [n=nags@125.16.129.16] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:33] StevenK: I'll have a look later === asac_the_2nd [i=asac@nat/canonical/x-13e20a105fe8c2e9] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === ryu [n=chris@unaffiliated/ryu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:40] Hrm. Been a while since I heard this. [01:40] Frame# 38870 [118037] , Time: 00:13.66 [68:05.14] === mruiz [n=mruiz@220.101.186.67] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Demitar_ [n=demitar@c-212-031-190-120.cust.broadway.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:45] Typical. Out of the five builds, one failed, and it's one with Ubuntu changes. === StevenK blames Fujitsu. === Fujitsu is blamed. [01:46] Which? [01:46] geda-gschem? [01:46] Yup [01:46] StevenK: The rest of geda is in DEPWAIT at the moment. [01:46] And I haven't merged that yet. [01:46] So I just uploaded four rebuilds for nothing? [01:47] Um, possibly. === hggdh [n=hggdh@pool-71-170-39-244.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === blackskad [n=blackska@d54C4A53D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:48] geda-gattrib built. === nnonix [n=brad@bkjohnson.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:48] As did geda-utils. === StevenK suspects the four rebuilds are completly pointless. [01:49] Yup. [01:50] pitti, Mithrandir: Can you reject geda-* please? [01:50] Yay, unaccepting. === StevenK plots against Fujitsu. === Fujitsu apologises for not making the connection. [01:51] If they do or don't, it isn't too important, just pointless and a waste of buildd time. === chand| [n=rsamson@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:52] Right. === StevenK moves onto silc, and plotting a short trip to Melbourne. [01:53] Hah. === mruiz [n=mruiz@ubuntu/member/mruiz] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Bye!"] [01:53] :-P === Fujitsu runs. === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jordi [n=jordi@115.Red-213-96-69.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nnonix [n=brad@bkjohnson.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:56] why can I find no OpenOffice documentation on creating presentation templates? === daniel_ [i=daniel@nat/canonical/x-385caf388544ce49] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:01] simira: nope, was at dinner. === nnonix [n=brad@bkjohnson.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:05] fabbione: ping ping [02:07] Keybuk: does anyone actually create presentation templates in ooo anyway? [02:11] i'm always using the "empty presentation" template it's great stuff ;) [02:16] Keybuk: looks like it's nothing special such a template http://openoffice.blogs.com/openoffice/2006/03/templates_makin.html === seb128 [i=seb@nat/canonical/x-029293c0dcf070ef] has joined #ubuntu-devel === asac_the_2nd [i=asac@nat/canonical/x-c41cbca30dffe39e] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nnonix [n=brad@bkjohnson.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-devel === xxxxx1 [n=xxxxx1@44125.static.fln.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mvo [i=egon@nat/canonical/x-6da2dffb26949956] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:44] doko: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArchiveCleanupStatus [02:45] is there currently some congestion in the (source) NEW queue? [02:46] no [02:46] why? [02:46] it was empty like one week ago [02:46] I wonder if there is a problem with the emacs22 package, it was uploaded on 07/07 [02:47] pitti wants to use the debian version [02:47] pitti: I got a reject notification for my evolution-python sync, but no reason. Do you have time to discuss or should I e-mail you? [02:47] we just discussed it briefly though [02:47] pitti: why? mwolson is doing a great job on the package! [02:48] ScottK: I did already synced it yesterday [02:48] siretart: I don't see why we should have two parallel packagers? [02:48] Ah. That'll do it. Thanks seb128. [02:48] siretart: we should just sync Debian's and put the doc in main [02:48] pitti: because debian strips off documentation and such. there is no need for this in ubuntu [02:48] pitti: emacs without the manual is close to worthless [02:48] seriously [02:48] siretart: there is a package with documentation though [02:48] siretart: we can just make emacs22 depends on the other package [02:49] seb128: in non-free. we don't want documentation to be seperate in ubuntu [02:49] siretart: Depends: -doc :) [02:49] siretart: Recommends:, though === nnonix [n=brad@bkjohnson.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:50] pitti: so you want to tell mwholson that all his work on https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-elisp/emacs/ubuntu was for nothing? === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:50] siretart: why should be work to divert from Debian when not required? [02:50] siretart: we tend to sync when we can [02:51] seb128: have you looked at the branch history? please do [02:52] anyways, it would be really nice if some archive admins could reposond to Michaels verbose emails to his emacs22 plans in ubuntu he posted to the mailing list [02:52] we shouldn't let him in the dark with these decisions [02:53] s/let/leave/ [02:53] (later, presentation here) [02:57] siretart: will do, quite busy at distro sprint this week though [02:57] siretart: and emacs22 is not easy to review, would be easier for everybody to base on Debian [02:59] and therefore we reject very good and enthusiastic contributions to ubuntu? :/ [03:00] we said we reject anything? [03:00] well, in some ways you said so before [03:00] you want to stop syncing only to not drop work done aside from Debian? [03:01] every time we sync we drop some Ubuntu contribution [03:01] I agree we should not discourage contributions so might want to accept the emacs22 from NEW and sync from Debian later [03:02] that's what I'm basically suggesting [03:02] we of course want to regularily merge with debian [03:02] so it's going to takes sometime because emacs22 is not trivial to review [03:03] I know [03:07] siretart: hm, I didn't see anything on ubuntu-devel@; which ML was it on? [03:08] ScottK: evolution-python is not distributable btw, not sure if we will accept it [03:08] ScottK: you might want to open a bug on Debian saying they should ship the GPL text in the tarball [03:08] pitti: ubuntu-motu for sure, not that sure for ubuntu-devel [03:08] Ah. I will do so. [03:08] Thanks seb128. [03:08] np === agoliveira [i=adilson@nat/canonical/x-fe90021815ad586f] has joined #ubuntu-devel === iwj [n=ian@xenophobe.extern.relativity.greenend.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:11] Interesting. debian/copyright says: "License (note that upstream accidentally ships the LPGL, but the files say GPL)" [03:11] right [03:11] so it's GPL === ScottK makes a note to make fewer assumptions about the thoroughness of Debian [03:12] and the license text should be in the tarball [03:12] Yes. [03:12] ...Debian's NEW reviews. [03:13] ScottK: Debian's NEW review actually looks at the copyright boilerplate in the various source files rather than COPYING, I think [03:13] pitti: high latency ... yes the mirrors should after all be updated now or really soon [03:14] pitti: i was not sure if the main bug means: gutsy task [03:15] azeem: still the tarball should ship a copy of the license [03:15] sure [03:15] it doesn' in this case [03:15] asac_the_2nd: 'development release'; I closed it now, thanks [03:15] ok cool [03:16] brb === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seb128 [i=seb@nat/canonical/x-a7eb74ee42ecb977] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nnonix [n=brad@bkjohnson.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180070027.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [i=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:31] doko, pitti: kdebindings uploaded without gtk1.2 === pitti hugs Riddell [03:31] nice! [03:33] calc: do you prepare an oo.o-l10n upload as well? that one still b-deps on the old portaudio (18), but that's in universe now in favour of 19 [03:34] pitti: hmm yea i probably should do that === nnonix [n=brad@bkjohnson.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === chand|_ [n=rsamson@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:44] zul: libvirt is uninstallable because it depends on xen 3.0; can you please have a look at this? === cprov [i=cprov@canonical/launchpad/cprov] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ion_ [i=ion@heh.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:45] fabbione: ^ actually, that's your baby, isn't it? === chand| [n=rsamson@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:45] pitti: it?s one of my B-D but i didn?t package it [03:45] pitti: sure === iwj [n=ian@xenophobe.extern.relativity.greenend.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:46] pitti: would be nice if somebody could update it... with Xen knowledge even better [03:46] zul: thanks [03:46] fabbione: ok; seems that zul is at it [03:46] zul: cheers! [03:46] pitti: yeps.. thatnks [03:46] no probs [03:46] that also explains cman uninstallability and such === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:47] pitti: yes.. it?s all connected.. === zakame [n=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cr3 [n=marc@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:48] pitti: Regarding REVU packages rejected during NEW processing: Do you have any objections to using REVU for communication between sponsorees and sponsors? === Czubek [n=Damian@k133d.ac.pwr.wroc.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:49] persia: if revu actually had the same login as lp... === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:49] persia: no, I don't, and I'm not familiar with the revu procedures === nnonix [n=brad@bkjohnson.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:49] persia: and if it actually kept cookies... [03:49] pitti: OK. Thanks. There was just some confusion. [03:49] persia: it just seems to me that a package which just had a license problem which got fixed needs to be REVUed again [03:49] persia: erm, needs *not* [03:49] Hobbsee: Yeah - those would be neat, but it's still a handy dget'able place. [03:49] true [03:50] persia: if that's common practice, it should be done, of course :) [03:50] pitti: I totally agree. In that case, I only think REVU is a handy place to upload, and that a single advocate (probably the original sponsor, but perhaps anyone else) should be able to upload after checking. [03:50] ok [03:50] pitti: Thanks for the feedback. === chand| [n=rsamson@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndyP [n=andy@ubuntu/member/welshbyte] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=j_ack@p508D82D7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === carlos_ [n=carlos@163.pool85-48-166.static.orange.es] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Nicke [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nnonix [n=brad@bkjohnson.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hjmf_ [n=hjmf@186.Red-81-32-9.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:13] F**K [04:13] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/2.2.1-5ubuntu3/+build/357598 [04:13] I hate hate hate OO.o [04:13] Hrm. Why did glew get demoted 8 minutes ago? [04:14] StevenK: it does not have any reverse dependencies and the library was already in universe [04:14] pitti: it probably hates you too [04:14] pitti: It has reverse Build-depends in main: rss-glx [04:14] infinity: is adare maybe the wrong buildd to build OO.o? It failed three times in a row now with a timeout error [04:15] StevenK: hmm, then checkrdepends is stupid [04:15] pitti: I may have the technology to fix that. [04:16] infinity: and appropriately-sized hammer? [04:16] infinity: cover it with your special buildd admin magic hat? [04:16] pitti: Actually, maybe not. glew builds libglew1.4-dev which provides libglew-dev, which is what rss-glx wants. [04:16] Mithrandir: you and hammering poor objects.... [04:17] Hobbsee: buildds are not poor objects. They _like_ being hammered. [04:17] heh, right then [04:17] No, I agree with Mithrandir. === Hobbsee concludes that Mithrandir might be a buildd as well, and therefore hammers Mithrandir [04:17] They *liked* it when I threw 62 rebuilds at them. [04:17] *munch* *munch* === StevenK mutters "Bloody curl" under his breath. [04:18] StevenK: does this mean you'll never touch curl again? === nnonix [n=brad@bkjohnson.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:18] Hopefully. === calc [i=ccheney@nat/canonical/x-08e57c92a4196542] has joined #ubuntu-devel === persia gleefully imagines a migration to a new libcurl4 next week === StevenK hangs persia up by his hair [04:20] StevenK: I cleaned gutsy_probs, anastacia, and NBS a bit harder, next publisher run should have some light === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@mail.legalaid.mb.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:20] pitti: Which hopefully isn't an on-coming train. :-) [04:20] pitti: So what do we do about rss-glx? [04:20] what's wrong with rss-glx? [04:21] glew was demoted [04:21] StevenK: oh, I moved glew back to main [04:21] Ah, right. [04:21] StevenK, huh ? [04:21] StevenK: it was just due to my stupidity, after all === ogra wasnt aware [04:21] pitti: dumb ooo failed on ppc again :( [04:21] checkrdepends <- does not know about virtual packages [04:21] calc: I just noticed, and asked infinity to treat it with some special love [04:22] pitti: for the same reason too, sig 15 after 149mi [04:22] calc: adare is apparently unsuitable [04:22] pitti: ok thanks! :) [04:22] hmm ooo reminds me of NKOTB song ;) [04:22] Oh good God === StevenK kills calc [04:23] lol === zch [n=manuel@chello084114173141.4.15.vie.surfer.at] has joined #ubuntu-devel === calc wishes for play music over irc function, so he could torture everyone with the same song ;) [04:24] For those who can't expand NKOTB, consider yourself lucky. === Hobbsee wishes for a stab people through their computers function, to use on calc [04:24] haha [04:24] pitti: Should be fixed. === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:24] hi spam === StevenK kills calc again, *harder* [04:24] hey [04:24] infinity: yay you [04:24] StevenK: hehe [04:25] for anyone who doesn't know what i was talking about, here you go, if you look don't blame me for gouging your eyes out later ;) http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/You-Got-It-The-Right-Stuff-lyrics-New-Kids-On-The-Block/9CD3256205EB3F62482568B90022130B === StevenK plans a trip to London. [04:26] Evidently, killing over IRC isn't giving the right impression. === nnonix [n=brad@bkjohnson.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:26] hehe i leave tomorrow, i'm safe for now ;) [04:26] you can get me in Boston at UDS [04:26] Is that a promise? === Hobbsee suspects that this might be a fun song to add to her myspace page.... === StevenK grins evilly [04:26] Hobbsee: lol yea [04:27] Hobbsee: Your myspace page is already evil enough without a pre-boy band boy band polluting it. [04:27] i'm pretty sure you would have to be a teen in the early 90s to get the full torture part of the joke ;) [04:27] I was a teen in the early 90s [04:27] StevenK: i'm sorry ;) [04:27] Yes, so I am. [04:28] am I, even [04:28] See, I'm so cut up! [04:28]