[01:49] <bronson> I have a Thinkpad T61 tablet with Intel WiFi Link 4965 AGN ...
[01:49] <bronson> Anyone know if the Gutsy kernel should work with this?
[01:49] <crimsun> yes, it should.
[01:50] <bronson> That's what I thought...   I'm getting no love.
[01:50] <bronson> scanning dmesg...
[01:51] <Nafallo> baah. and I bought the earlier since I didn't thought it would :-P
[01:51] <Nafallo> I should have asked.
[01:52] <Nafallo> but then again... DRAFT-N ;-)
[01:53] <bronson> Right...  I was hoping to get lucky since the Intel guys had already released working code.
[01:53] <bronson> Guess I'm not THAT lucky....
[02:00] <bronson> Overall, I'm pretty impressed with how well Gutsy works on this 2 week old laptop.
[02:00] <bronson> Just the pesky wireless...  and the backlight.
[02:01] <crimsun> oh, sorry, misparsed that~
[02:01] <crimsun> actually I have no idea how I misparsed that as 3945, but whatever.
[02:02] <bronson> Yeah, quite different.
[02:02] <bronson> Intel apparently released a working driver though.
[02:02] <mjg59> iwlwifi /should/ drive 4965
[02:02] <mjg59> With luck I'll have test hardware in a couple of weeks
[02:02] <bronson> OK, I scoured dmesg.  It doesn't look like the kernel tries to even probe the card.
[02:03] <mjg59> bronson: It's quite possible we don't have a recent enough iwlwifi available
[02:03] <mjg59> (If we have it at all yet)
[02:03] <bronson> Module iwlwifi not found?
[02:04] <mjg59> Do you have linux-ubuntu-modules installed?
[02:04] <bronson> Couldn't find package linux-ubuntu-modules
[02:05] <mjg59> linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-7-generic
[02:05] <bronson> sorry, I see.
[02:05] <bronson> right.  :)
[02:05] <mjg59> We seem to be lacking a metapackage :)
[02:05] <bronson> Yes, I do.
[02:06] <bronson> mjg59: pretty late where you are?
[02:06] <mjg59> bronson: 1AM
[02:06] <bronson> oh, not that bad.
[02:06] <mjg59> Supposed to be in an office at 9:30, though
[02:06] <mjg59> So should really sleep soon :)
[02:06] <bronson> doh.  That's suboptimal.
[02:07] <bronson> At Canonical?
[02:07] <bronson> hm, why don't the arrows and tab key work in Gutsy's root shell?  (just idly wondering)
[02:07] <mjg59> bronson: How have you got to the root shell?
[02:08] <mjg59> Yeah, I'm visiting the London office this week
[02:08] <bronson> sudo sh
[02:08] <bronson> Ah, plain old su works.
[02:08] <crimsun> apparently the microcode for 4965AGN isn't in the l-u-m tree yet.
[02:08] <mjg59> Yeah, sh is dash
[02:08] <bronson> Surprised there's a difference. 
[02:08] <bronson> Oooooh.  Yeah, that makes sense.
[02:09] <mjg59> su runs root's shell, which isbash
[02:09] <mjg59> (sorry, dodgy space bar)
[02:11] <bronson> I'll have to get in the habit of 'sudo bash'
[02:13] <mjg59> sudo -s is the best bet
[02:13] <mjg59> Or alternatively, sudo su
[02:14] <bronson> erm, what's the l-u-m tree?
[02:14] <mjg59> It's linked off kernel.ubuntu.com/git
[02:14] <bronson> Think it's worth my time to try to add Intel's code and send a patch?
[02:14] <bronson> Or are they going to get to it next week...?
[02:14] <bronson> (or soon)  do you suppose?
[02:15] <mjg59> Should be merged at some point soon
[02:15] <mjg59> Like I said, I should have test hardware soon :)
[02:15] <bronson> OK, I'll be patient.
[02:15] <bronson> What test hardware?
[02:15] <mjg59> HP 2510p
[02:17] <bronson> 2.8 lib wxga?  groovy.
[02:18] <bronson> mjg59: thanks for your help.  Hope you get the device soon.  :)
[02:19] <mjg59> crimsun: Looks like we need an alsa update for new Thinkpads :(
[02:20] <crimsun> ok, right.
[02:20] <crimsun> I'll look tonight when I get home.
[02:21] <mjg59> Thanks!
[02:21] <mjg59> How much longer do we have you for?
[02:43] <zul_> crimsun: leaving?
 sudo -s is the best bet
[03:10] <JanC> sudo -i  :)
[09:05] <kraut> moin
[11:17] <abogani> lamont: May i disturb you?
[11:19] <abogani> BenC_: ping
[11:24] <BenC_> abogani: yes?
[11:25] <abogani> BenC: No way to send a msg to kernel-team list. It is over-sized. May i send you this directly?
[11:26] <BenC> abogani: can you put it somewhere to download from and send the email with the URL to kernel-team?
[11:30] <abogani> BenC: Sure! I'm stupid... :-)
[11:31] <xivulon> mjg59: re wubi hibernation issues, I was reading http://kerneltrap.org/node/11756 , am I right that if that is implemented it may fix the issue in coming releases?
[11:32] <BenC> abogani: nah, you're good :)
[11:37] <mjg59> xivulon: In the long run, yeah
[11:37] <xivulon> cool
[11:41] <xivulon> mjg59: is it realistic to have suspend-to-ram working with fuse root fs in gutsy?
[11:58] <mjg59> xivulon: I'll look into it
[11:58] <mjg59> It /might/ be
[12:04] <xivulon> mjg59: thx a lot, since we loose suspend-to-disk while we wait for kexec, it would be nice to keep suspend-to-ram at least
[06:47] <mkrufky> again... i dont want to be a pest....  but this bug that i files months ago is causing a tech support nightmare for v4l
[06:47] <mkrufky> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/99107
[06:48] <mkrufky> s/files/fileD
[06:48] <mkrufky> is there a different place i should go to get some attention on this?
[06:49] <mkrufky> i am aware that ubuntu folks spoke to hauppauge to get these licensed firmwares.... but ubuntu is using the OLD firmware, and it causes problems with the current drivers, which use the *official* firmware
[06:49] <mkrufky> hauppauge did not license the old fw that ubuntu is shipping
[07:05] <apt_get> Hi people
[08:24] <lamont> amitk: out of curiosity, eta for -8.17?
[09:13] <amitk> lamont: next week
[09:13] <mikmorg> hello.
[09:14] <tsmithe> i just tested http://people.ubuntu.com/~bcollins/kernels/linux-image-2.6.22-8-rt_2.6.22-8.18_i386.deb, and it works quite well (apart from the lack of lum). however, i did have an issue with my i915
[09:14] <tsmithe> lots of unknown symbols for drm: "[  118.858742]  i915: Unknown symbol drm_release" and suchlike in dmesg
[09:14] <lamont> amitk: next week == monday, or friday?
[09:28] <mikmorg> hello all
[09:28] <mikmorg> Does anyone know when the 20-16.30 kernel is coming out?