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BobSapphi thar12:56
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BobSapphttp://secunia.com/advisories/26037/ this affected me in xubuntu12:59
BobSapphttp://secunia.com/advisories/26037/$(xterm) this affected me in xubuntu01:00
BobSappwhen i open the second link in xfce4-terminal, a xterm session pops up01:00
BobSapp http://foo.bar/$(xterm)01:01
BobSapphmm now its not working01:01
BobSapp http://foo.bar/$(xterm)/01:02
BobSappyeah that one will do it01:02
BobSapplet me know if u guys have the same01:04
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BobSapptonige you dine in shell :)01:26
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about undelete - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:27
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TaJMoXbobsapp what irc client you running?01:29
BobSappin a command line01:30
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BobSappwhich is xfce4-terminal01:30
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TaJMoXbobsapp - will it do something like if you click "http://foo.bar/$(rm /etc/filename)/   ?02:20
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italianninja2hello ubuntu not loading gui02:49
vidd_laptopubuntu or xubuntu?02:49
totalwormage(hdd full? :P) (df -h)02:51
vidd_laptoptry sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart02:55
italianninja2it doesnt work says command not found02:55
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vidd_laptopthen sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop02:58
vidd_laptop*wave* cellofel1ow02:58
italianninja2ok something is happening !!! =)03:00
italianninja2its worked thank u03:08
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ToastMasterHey guys03:13
ToastMasterI'm extremely new to Ubuntu03:13
ToastMasterI need some help installing. Can some one give me a couple minutes to ask basic install quesions?03:13
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vidd_laptopsure....even though this is Xubuntu and not Ubuntu....03:14
ToastMasterWhat's the difference?03:14
vidd_laptopask away03:14
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vidd_laptopxubuntu uses the xfce desktop environment, and ubuntu uses gnome03:14
ToastMasterWell I sent to Ubuntu.com and downloaded a ISO, burned it, and tried booting03:15
ToastMasterokay.. well I just want something unix based03:15
vidd_laptoplive or alt cd?03:15
ToastMasterSomething I downloaded03:15
ToastMasterI get this error03:15
vidd_laptoplive cd or alt cd?03:15
ToastMastersh: can't access tty: job control turned off03:15
ToastMasterI found this post talking about this error03:15
ToastMasterI can't even begin to understand what they are talking about03:16
ToastMasterI'm installing this as a dual boot03:16
ToastMasterany ideas what questions I should be asking right now03:17
ToastMasterI have a standard Intel HP machine running XP03:17
ToastMasterI'm extremely new,03:17
ToastMasterany ideas?03:19
ToastMasteryes? what?03:19
vidd_laptopbasicly you need to set it up so that your grub is on the master boot record03:22
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ToastMasterwhat does that mean?03:23
ToastMastersomething that I download?03:23
vidd_laptopgrub is the bootloader03:23
vidd_laptopit is installed by default03:24
ToastMasterIs it on my CD?03:24
ToastMasterSo I do something in the BIOS?03:24
ToastMasterOr do I get the GRUB from windows03:27
ToastMasterand install it first03:27
vidd_laptopcheck your bios to make sure there is no option "protecting" the MBR (master boot record)03:28
vidd_laptopgrub gets installed from your linux install03:28
ToastMasterlol... do I need to install something else before i install ubuntu?03:29
ToastMasterpartition my drive....03:29
ToastMastermight not be a bad idea?03:29
vidd_laptopjust make sure that the bios is not "protecting" the MBR03:30
vidd_laptopMaster Boot Record03:30
ToastMastermaster boot record03:30
ToastMasterthat's in the Bios on starup right?03:30
vidd_laptopno...Master Boot Record is the first section of your primary hard drive03:31
ToastMasterwhere do I find that?03:31
ToastMasterF2 on startup on In Windows?03:31
vidd_laptopthere are bios settings on some motherboards that "protect" it by not letting anything change it03:32
ToastMasterso do I open my computer?03:34
ToastMasterget another computer?03:35
vidd_laptopgo in your bios03:35
ToastMasterIn it right now03:35
ToastMastermain, advanced, security, boot, power, exit03:36
vidd_laptopis there a setting that says something like virus protection?03:36
ToastMaster1 sec03:36
ToastMasterthanks for your time btw03:41
ToastMasterI'm about outt'a here. I found a Wiki for common installation problems03:42
vidd_laptopToastMaster, try getting the alt cd and installing the base only03:42
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orbisvicis_i try to open xfce-terminal, but then get logged out ... anyone know a fix ?06:17
Jester45orbisvicis_, its a bug, i dont remeber the number but you can use an alternative terminal such as xterm or Alt+Ctrl+F1 (Alt+F7 to get back to desktop) or installing a diffrent one ie gnome's terminal or KDE's06:19
orbisvicis_ok xterm it is06:20
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Jester45!bug 9184906:25
ubotuLaunchpad bug 91849 in xfce "i810 + xorg = xfce crashes when opening terminal" [Unknown,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9184906:25
j1mcgood call, Jester4506:26
j1mcthat one pops up a lot06:26
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j1mcthere's an upstream bug about it, too.06:26
orbisvicisthat sucks06:26
orbisvicisthat happened in the middle of synaptic06:27
orbisvicisnow I see blank blue screen06:27
Jester45orbisvicis, do you have a i81006:27
orbisvicisceleron 46606:27
Jester45orbisvicis, cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver06:29
Jester45run that06:29
orbisvicisyeah i81006:30
Jester45yep thats your bug06:30
orbisvicisplus some unneeded wacom drivers06:30
orbisvicisyeah it has 1 mb video ram06:31
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orbisvicisxubuntu lags when drawing windows ... and its not the cpu .. or the ram06:33
orbisvicisinstalled 2 hr ago, already broken06:33
j1mcorbisvicis: which version of xubuntu are you using?06:33
orbisvicishmm i need a faster distro06:33
Jester45orbisvicis, why not try a lighter wm06:34
j1mcdoes just the terminal lag, or all windows?06:34
orbisvicisjust windows06:34
Jester45orbisvicis, have you tried fluxbox06:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:35
j1mcno, i mean, does just the terminal's window lag, or do all windows for all apps lag?06:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about windowmanager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:35
ubotufluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox06:35
orbisvicisum yeah fluxbuntu herd 2 comes out in 5 days06:35
Jester45whats the one where it shows a small list of them06:35
Jester45i would use it if could get it to work/look like DSL's06:36
Jester45but i cant use it for more than 10 mins unless its on DSL06:36
orbisvicisi chose xubuntu b/c fluxbuntu wont have file associations set up till 5 days06:36
orbisvicismaybe arch linux w/ e17 or fluxbox06:39
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discord_the printer menu disappered from applications > settings anyone know how i can get it back?07:58
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damikeis there a deb package from acrobat 7 out there?08:23
BFTDdamike not sure, but there is acrobat fro linux somewhere08:24
damikeBFTD, yes - but only a RPM :(08:24
BFTDdamike then install alien08:25
damikeBFTD, ah - its in media buntu :)08:34
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BlenderUser42can a C app be compiled when running the livecd?09:39
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Merchelowhats the craic?10:23
bitformcraic? I'm sorry. What is that?10:28
Mercheloit's an irish word for "how's it going dude"10:46
bitformAh 10:49
bitformThat's Chinese for "I'm good, how are you?"10:50
TheSheepMahalo nui loa10:54
bitformhehe. you saw where I was from?10:57
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fistfullofroseshow the heck can i change the cursor in xfce4?01:26
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gerroguess he found out how to change the cursor01:38
gerrowbadger: hiya01:38
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artabrahaoHi, if I remove syslog it the ubuntu will create a new one?06:44
maxamillionartabrahao: i would imagine it would, but why do you want to remove it?06:47
hyper_chnetscape does still exist as browser???06:49
TheSheephyper_ch: seamonkey06:49
hyper_chTheSheep: netscape 9 beta 2 available... is that seamonkey?06:50
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TheSheepno idea06:51
hyper_chok :)06:51
hyper_chis seamonkey based on FF?06:52
gnomefreakseamonkey is 1.1.2 latest version06:52
gnomefreakits built on the 1.8.0 gecko which is lower than what ff is built on06:52
maxamillionhyper_ch: well, i believe technically no but they are both based off mozilla06:53
gnomefreakmozilla is based off netscape06:53
hyper_chin the Heise article they say netscape 9 beta 2 is based on FF
gnomefreakthey may backward base it now but netscape was released long before ff 1 was06:54
artabrahao<maxamillion> it is too bif06:54
artabrahao<maxamillion> it is too big06:54
hyper_chnetscape goes back to a time before MSIE ^^06:55
hyper_chartabrahao: what is the problem?06:55
artabrahaothe syslog is too big, I removed it but was not recreated06:57
hyper_chartabrahao: then recreate it yourself :)06:58
maxamillionartabrahao: don't delete it, just clear it06:58
maxamillionecho " " > /path/to/syslog06:58
maxamillionwell ... sudo06:58
maxamillionbut yeah06:58
artabrahaonice, works07:01
artabrahaoCan you help me change the date time via tty?07:01
hyper_chwohoo, now I did something for Xubuntu :)07:03
hyper_chthe alternate-cd is now seeded more by me than I had to download ;)07:04
hyper_ch686MB Download and 732MB Upload so far :)07:05
hyper_ch(and 3.8 GB of Season 1 B5 uploaded)07:07
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exwmy bother has a windows machine with 3 drives ( two with data ) will xubuntu install give him a choice to wipe and install on one drive while keeping the data ( not touching ) the other two?07:28
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exwonce installed will the other two drives be automatically mounted?07:30
wbadgerwell, yeah, but you should install the package ntfs-3g if you want to be able to write to them too.07:31
TheSheepexw: they should, if for some reason they are not, you can add them manually07:31
wbadgerexw, otherwise they will be read-only07:31
exwok thanks for your help07:32
wbadgerexw, np07:32
hyper_chexw: and before altering partition and stuff and installing xubuntu:   BACKUP YOUR ESSENTIAL DATA07:34
exw:-) ok07:34
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exwi was thinking of having my brother remove the two data disks before install, and have him put them back after install... but i'm thinking that ubuntu might not automatically recognize and mount the new disks... if i'm wrong i quess that would be the best way to go, eh? ( so he does not have to backup 2gb of data )07:37
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hyper_chexw: yes, that would be a good option.... ubuntu will not auto-recognize it but to manually mount them is not difficult either07:37
cellofellowAnybody have a knowledge of Xinerama? I know there is the Wiki but I have a little question that the Wiki doesn't answer.07:37
hyper_chcellofellow: what does it do? Xinerama?07:38
cellofellowauto-recognize what?07:38
cellofellowhyper_ch: multi-screen displays.07:38
hyper_chcellofellow: auto-recognizing HDs07:38
cellofellowoh, yeah.07:38
hyper_chcellofellow: hmmm, you might have better luck in #ubuntu with that07:38
cellofellowI think that works for hot-pluggable SCSI disks, but that's it.07:38
exwhyper_ch: ok07:38
cellofellowhyper_ch: ok.07:38
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hyper_chexw: mounting is really simple :)07:38
hyper_ch(if you know how)07:39
cellofellowset up fstab and forget about it.07:39
cellofellowuse !uuid07:39
cellofellow!uuid | ewx07:39
ubotuewx: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)07:39
cellofellowexw ^ oops07:39
hyper_chI have a tough decision to make :(07:39
cellofellowwhat tough decision?07:40
hyper_chDner Kebab or pizza or chinese food?07:40
hyper_chwhat am I going to eat for dinner ^^07:40
cellofellowChinese kebabs with pepperoni.07:40
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hyper_chcellofellow: trying to get someone in here who may help with xinerama07:47
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jihihyper_ch: ?07:48
hyper_chjihi: cellofellow has some problems with multi-screens and xinerama07:48
hyper_chthx for coming07:48
cellofellowno problems (yet), just a question.07:48
jihiask ^^07:49
cellofellowCan I do it with one AGP nvidia card and one pci non-nvidia (most likely S3) card?07:49
hyper_chproblem... question... what's the difference anyway07:49
cellofellowOr do the cards have to match?07:49
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jihihm, i dont know :/07:50
sx66what is a good app for adjusting sound for xubuntu?07:50
jihii have both screens connectet to one nvidia card07:50
vzduchsx66: alsamixer?07:50
hyper_chcellofellow: now we have to convert jihi to the dark side of ubuntu using: Xfce ^^07:51
jihihaha xD07:51
cellofellowsx66: alsamixer, or the included xfce4-mixer07:51
cellofellowhyper_ch: wince when was xfce the dark side?07:52
hyper_chnot "was" ... "is" :) don't you have that dark bootup splash with the cool xfce mouse in the ubuntu logo?07:52
cellofellowjihi: yeah, there are instruction on the wiki (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo) but it only documents for TwinView Nvidia, ATI, and Intel laptop chips that have the projector output.07:53
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jihicellofellow: but i think it will work, because xinerama uses two seperated Xserver07:54
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cellofellowlet me look at these xorg.conf samples07:55
sx66vzduch: in kubuntu they have one that controls headphone input by clicking the icon, is there one for xfce that can be controlled via my keyboard like KDE?07:55
cellofellowsx66: you can set up some custom keystrokes maybe.07:55
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cellofellowMy keyboard has volume buttons and they work.07:56
wbadgerhey guys what bittorrent clients do you use on xubuntu?07:56
cellofellownot in repos (used to be though) get it from getdeb.net07:56
cellofellowPyGTK, simple interface (like uTorrent).07:56
wbadgerwhy don't they want it in the repositories?07:57
cellofellowno idea07:57
sx66cellofellow: yes so do mine, but it only defaults to the main source, not headphones when I plug in headphones...KDE notices that and switches the input volume. I have kmix but it does not work in xfce.07:57
kebrtorrent is great07:57
cellofellowI have only one audio output.07:58
wbadgerkeb, is rtorrent ncurses based?07:58
cellofellowBut if the headphone and speakers are on different ALSA devices, then you can set up something so that you control the volume of one with a a different set of keys.07:58
cellofellowrtorrent sounds nice for an ssh-based download session, or for seeding something continuously.07:59
kebi find rtorrent lean and efficient08:00
wbadgercellofellow, do you think the getdeb version of deluge-torrent is different than the one in their site?08:00
cellofellowit may be a little backdated.08:00
cellofellowBut last I checked I couldn't find their package on their sight.08:01
wbadgercellofellow, ok, thanks I'll try it (they have a package here.. http://deluge-torrent.org/downloads) and thanks keb too.08:01
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sx66how do you find a good torrent, all of them stall...08:12
hyper_chsx66: http://www.thepiratebay.org08:13
hyper_chsx66: use those with lots of seeders ;)08:13
sx66what are seeders?08:13
hyper_chsx66: what do you think seeders are?08:15
sx66I downloaded rtorrent from syn. and i can not find it on the app menu I searched for it also08:16
kebrtorrent is a text app, you start it by typing rtorrent in a terminal08:17
hyper_chgoogle for "torrent seeder"08:17
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sx66my volumes (thumbdrive can not mount) how do I fix that?08:26
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wbadgerwhat volumes08:28
wbadgeroh he left :S08:28
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kebhmm looks like the default install does not put postfix in, or at least nothing is listening on port 2508:30
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exwits nice to see a lot of xfce4 commits from different people .  when i first read about xfce4 i thought it was still one person project08:39
hyper_chafter having tested gnome and kde and xfce it was no question what I'm going to use08:40
ubotuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell08:40
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newcoventryfor the basic install of xubuntu, is there a vnc or remote desktop functionality built in, or should I install from Synaptic?08:50
kalikiananewcoventry, There is not built-in remote functionality.08:51
newcoventrykalikiana: thank you08:51
kalikianayw :)08:51
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hyper_chcan someone review my cron-code?09:08
hyper_chwhat does this code do?   00 23 19 07 * php -f /var/www/rs8.php >/dev/null 2>&1     ?09:09
kebruns a script at 00:23 on the 19th of july09:13
hyper_chnot at 23:00?09:13
kebyeah at 23:0009:14
hyper_chgood.. just wanted to make sure it's setup do to its task when I'm on vacation :)09:14
kebare you sure you dont want to see the error output?09:15
hyper_chkeb: yeah, I tested the script already by calling it in the browser and it works fine09:15
kebhmmm. looks like it might put that in an email09:16
hyper_chput in an email?09:16
hyper_chkeb: I made it like that because I don't want any email :)09:16
kebthe cron logs09:16
kebi forgot i setup my crons to send me email years ago09:17
kebbut its not normally that way09:17
hyper_chI know09:17
hyper_chbtw, if you don't have set a specific email address, where does cron save the output data to?09:18
wbadgerhyper_ch, doesn't it send it to your mail in /var/mail/ ?09:19
hyper_chthat's empty :)09:19
kebi have a .forward in my account in remote servers to send it to my home machine09:19
wbadgerthen it won't be after you get mail..09:19
hyper_chI thought it does always save the output when no mail-to address is given in the cron09:21
kebif you are root, it might save output in /var/log/cron09:21
hyper_chno cron in /var/log09:23
kebhmm me neither.  i must be thinking of fedora :(09:24
hyper_chhehehe :)09:25
hyper_chhaven't tried fc sind fc409:25
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pi3hi, on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstalandoXubuntu_ES, where it says "Gracias a OSDir por su exelente galera de capturas!", it should say "exCelente"09:28
hyper_chhola pi309:28
pi3hola hyper_ch09:29
hyper_chpi3: it's a wiki... you can register yourself and correct it :)09:29
hyper_chpi3: at least I think you can09:29
pi3does xubuntu come with xfce?09:29
pi3oh, well I'll see09:29
pi3I mean from factory09:30
hyper_chpi3: yes, Xubuntu comes with Xfce... Ubuntu with Gnome and Kubuntu with KDE09:30
pi3because I'm reading how to install it and they talk about a command line09:30
hyper_chpi3: where?09:31
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hyper_chpi3: well, did you download already a cd-image?09:31
hyper_chpi3: and text installer is not the same as command line install09:31
pi3It's not for me, I use ubuntu. But a friend of mine wants to install xubuntu and he's not a command line friend09:31
hyper_chpi3: it's all the same09:31
hyper_chpi3: if you use the desktop cd it will first boot the whole system09:32
pi3he's just coming to this world09:32
pi3ok, better09:32
hyper_chpi3: if you use the alternate install cd... you will have a text-based installer... but it's not a command line installer09:32
pi3he is downloading the full system, not the alternate.. so that won't be a probem09:32
hyper_chwell, the desktop cd can sometimes cause problems09:32
wbadgerpi3, it doesn't mean you don't have a graphical interface.. only that they want you to perform a command in a terminal emulator (like gnome's Terminal)09:33
pi3and excelente has been corrected :)09:33
hyper_chpi3: for installation the alternate cd is generally recommended09:33
hyper_chpi3: thx for the correction :)09:33
pi3hyper_ch: yes, I know, but this will be his first time, I don't think that starting with a text install would be the best way09:34
hyper_chpi3: the text-based installer looks something like this:   http://knolinux.com/images/35596-33125/Elive6.PNG09:34
hyper_chpi3: you don't have fancy graphics and stuff... just text09:34
pi3hyper_ch: like debian09:34
hyper_chpi3: yes09:35
hyper_chpi3: as said, the desktop cd may cause problems upon booting or installation... because of that the alternate cd is recommende for doing an install :)09:35
hyper_chpi3: but it might be that the desktop cd works like a charm for your friend09:35
hyper_chpi3: and after you have downloaded the cd-image, don't forget to check it's md5 sum and when burning it to cd, do not burn it quicker than 4x09:36
hyper_chpi3: with that, you should be fine :)09:36
hyper_ch(except if your friend has incompatible hardware)09:36
pi3hyper_ch: I hope so, if he has a problem, we'll try with the alternate... for now I think graphical is better09:36
hyper_chpi3: you're not also tempted at using xubuntu instead of ubuntu?09:36
pi3hyper_ch: heh, not really.. I like GNOME, do you use xubuntu?09:37
hyper_chpi3: yes I use it09:37
pi3are you a developer or something?09:38
hyper_chpi3: nah, just an ordinary user...09:38
pi3the important ones, the ones that collaborate with the community?09:38
pi3however, I'm trying to persuade my school to adopt linux09:39
hyper_chpi3: just an oridnary user... I help people here on irc and in the forums if I can...09:39
hyper_chpi3: well, linux has no licence fees ;) that should be reason enough09:40
pi3they are like microsoft slaves09:40
pi3we use visual basic, access, win xp..09:40
hyper_chpi3: they are... but times are changing09:40
pi3yep, for the final project we are using MySQL and probably c++09:41
pi3so that is better09:41
hyper_chpi3: what project?09:41
hyper_chpi3: I don't know any c++... just sql/html/php09:41
hyper_chpi3: and a bit of java and Lotus Script09:41
pi3a hardware device to identify yourself at a computer and open doors, activate a car...09:42
pi3may sound stupid, but we are just in the middle of the high school09:42
wbadgerpi3, you're lucky... at my school we learn Prolog, have you ever even heard of it?09:42
hyper_chpi3: hmm, we didn't program at all :)09:42
wbadgerpi3, see... there's a reason... it sucks09:42
hyper_chpi3: computer science was basic introduction to windows and M$ word and m$ excel09:43
pi3what are you doing, wbadger?09:43
wbadgerpi3, I'm in high school too..09:43
pi3how old are you?09:43
pi3I'm 1509:43
wbadgerpi3, nearly 1709:43
hyper_chstill so young and already geeks? ^^09:43
pi3and 09:44
pi3you hyper?09:44
wbadgergeeks is such an ugly word09:44
hyper_chyou prefer nerd?09:44
pi3geek was a fancy alternative for nerd09:44
wbadgerhyper_ch, nope.. it's another ugly word.09:44
pi3but it is now basically the same09:45
hyper_chI tend to think that nerd more of a negativ connotation than geek09:45
pi3geek sounds more like a computer guy, and nerd math/freak09:45
pi3don't you think so'09:46
wbadgerhyper_ch, I tend to think both have very negative connotations ..09:46
pi3where are you from wbadger?09:46
hyper_chI don't think geek is that negative... but then I'm not a native english speaker09:46
wbadgerpi3, Israel, and you?09:46
pi3do you know ORT?09:47
wbadgerit's a school..09:47
pi3well, I'm attending the local ORT09:47
wbadgerpi3, amm.. means you're juish? or is ORT kinda global?09:48
wbadgeris it hard over there?09:49
pi3I have nothing to compare with09:49
pi3we don't have homework09:50
wbadgeroh right :P09:50
pi3that's great09:50
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pi3what city of israel?09:51
wbadgersounds great :\ do you stay a lot of hours in school instead?09:51
wbadgerquiet city of herzliya  :)09:51
pi3from 8 till 2:30, 4 or 5 depending on the day09:51
pi3and you?09:51
wbadgerI'm quite the same, just I do get homework... and we have "Bagruyot" tests.. finals in every subject09:52
pi3do you use xubuntu09:52
wbadgeryeah :)09:53
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pi3have you ever been here? in buenos aires?09:53
pi3wbadger: can you write "the shofar" in hebrew? i need it for a work09:55
wbadgerpi3, are you going to be visiting Israel next year? or Poland?09:55
wbadgerlol... 09:55
pi3no, at least it is not in my plans, why?09:55
wbadgernp :P09:55
kebhmm   "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"09:55
TheSheepkeb: install build-essential09:56
kebah ok09:56
hyper_chthe-all-knowing-Sheep :)09:56
wbadgerpi3, in Israel, many kids are sent to poland during their 11th school year...09:56
pi3wbadger: there's a trip to poland and then to israel, the "marcha por la vida" in en would be "march for the life"09:58
pi3do you know it?09:58
wbadgerpi3, yeah that's kinda what I meant, only we don't all travel in time for the march, since there are a lot of students sent from Israel so they are spread over the year.09:59
pi3is herzliya north or south?10:02
wbadgerit is near the sea, just a bit norther than Tel Aviv (kinda middle :P )10:03
pi3hyper_ch is that running linux?10:04
hyper_chyes, kubuntu10:04
hyper_chpi3: you'll see it10:04
hyper_chit's about the mpx10:04
pi3wow that's amazing10:04
pi3reminds me what billy introduce a time ago10:05
hyper_chyou mean that  20k table?10:06
pi3i think so10:06
hyper_chI mean that ugly desk for $ 20k or something like that10:06
hyper_chbut then... somehow I don't think I can get used to touch a screen...10:07
pi3wbadger: prolog is weird10:08
wbadgerpi3, try programming prolog in Hebrew.. so many bugs in software, so useless..10:08
pi3do you use the same keyboard for the 2 languages?10:08
wbadgerpi3, yeah of course.. it is not hard at all10:09
TheSheephyper_ch: you've seen their ipod? :)10:13
hyper_chTheSheep: whose IP?10:13
TheSheephyper_ch: Zune10:14
hyper_chTheSheep: nope10:14
hyper_chTheSheep: I don't even have an iPod :) I just use my cell phone10:14
TheSheepcreativity at Microsoft's best ;)10:14
hyper_chTheSheep: I thought copying is what microsoft's best at10:14
kebembrace and extend ;)10:15
TheSheephyper_ch: nah, you even had to use a separate program, not a shell command, to copy a directory10:15
hyper_chTheSheep: lol10:15
hyper_chkeb: embrace ^^ reminds me of a movie ;)10:16
kebhyper_ch what movie is that?10:16
TheSheeppr0n ;)10:16
hyper_chkeb: Embrace of the Vampire (with Alyssa Milano)10:16
hyper_chnot Pr0n but Alyssa is... 2open-minded" there10:17
kebgood to hear10:17
hyper_chshitty story but hey, it's Alyssa10:18
kebmy desktop resolution is 800x600, but before i reinstalled it was 1024x76810:20
kebis there another display setting somewhere?10:20
hyper_chkeb: had a look at your Xorg.conf?10:20
kebnot recently10:21
hyper_chis 1024x786 enabled in there?10:21
TheSheepI'd rather check the monitor sync settings10:21
hyper_chkeb: do what the-all-knowing-sheep says :)10:22
TheSheepor the graphics aperture in bios if it's intel10:22
kebyeah (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (hsync out of range)10:22
kebweird, it was working yesterday before i reinstalled10:23
TheSheepdiffernet versions of graphics drivers autodetect monitors differently10:24
TheSheepit's a pita10:24
wbadgerhave to sleep.. good night everybody10:24
TheSheepbye wbadger10:24
keb(**) |   |-->Monitor "Generic Monitor"10:24
TheSheepdpkg-reconfigure xfserver-xorg10:25
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anywhereI want to add applications to the xfce menu, but ~/.config/xfce4/desktop/menu.xml seems to include an external file: "<include type="system" style="simple" unique="true" legacy="true"/>" (i have no clue). where is this file stored || how can i simply add applications?10:39
kebthanks TheSheep10:40
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TaJMoXWhere exactly are all the menu files located?  I want to remove some entries but can't find them in /etc/xdg/menus/* or in ~/.config/menus   there's another spot i should look?10:46
TaJMoXSpecifically its the Others menu - where installed wine apps go10:47
TaJMoXin my applications.menu the Others part is empty10:47
anywherei asked more or less the same question three minutes ago10:47
PumpernickelParts of the menu are autogenerated from *.desktop files.10:47
TaJMoXso i'll just find |grep .desktop10:48
anywhereis there a tool to generate .desktop files?10:48
TaJMoXanywhere - make a launcher10:48
anywhereoh yes, you're right... and is there a directory where one is assumed to store desktop files? (espacially for applications in /opt and my own programs)10:50
TaJMoXfound a bunch in ~/.local/share10:51
anywherestill it is strange... alacarte for example shows KDevelop (i know its gnome), but xfce doesnt...10:54
TaJMoXif you want to add if you can just open up a menu file in /etc/xdg/menus10:58
TaJMoXand add a line like this:  <app name="Tilda" cmd="tilda" icon="apport.png"/>10:59
TaJMoXanywhere - that would be better than using a .desktop file11:00
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sint_holoi have added some modules to /etc/modules.d/blacklist but they still load anyway any ideas?11:17
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cellofelloware Xorg 7 and XFree86 configurations compatible? Or at least almost compatible?11:42
cellofellowThat's X.Org 7 and XFree86 411:42
maxamillioncellofellow: i believe so, yes11:44
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cellofellowOK. I'm thinking I can make a dual head with one AGP TNT2 and a PCI S3 Virge.11:44
cellofellowBut this HowTo is for XFree86 4.11:44
cellofellowSo, I was just making sure.11:44
cellofellowc'mon dumb bot12:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about inittab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about init.d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:02
ubotuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto12:02
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cellofellowI'd like to do two things I thought only inittab did: change my number of tty's, and change my default runlevel.12:02
Jester45if you want to lower the tty you can just remove the script12:04
Jester45each one has its own script12:04
cellofellowwhich script?12:04
cellofellowI'd be happy with only two or three. six is overkill.12:04
Jester45and i guess that if you wanted to add one you could just copy one and make a new one modifiying it a bit12:04
cellofellowthe scripts in /etc/event.d/?12:06
cellofellowhehe, I found the stuff I'm looking for.12:07
Jester45anyone know if gusty wil have ff312:08
cellofellowIt's scheduled for September right?12:09
cellofellowGutsy for October.12:09
Jester45and it will probably get backported12:09
vidd_laptophow do you set it up so you can have 2 (or more) xsessions?12:09
cellofellowIs FF2 backported to Dapper?12:09
Jester45its a pretty major app12:09
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cellofellowvidd_laptop: like two logins at once on one screen? That's gdmflexiserver.12:10
cellofellowJester45: which do you prefer?12:10
Jester45vidd_laptop, you can start a 2ns xserver12:10
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Jester45cellofellow, feisty :) i wasnt talking about browser12:10
vidd_laptopno....like on [ctrl] [alt] [f7]  and [ctrl] [alt] [f8] 12:10
Jester45i use firefox12:11
Jester45vidd_laptop, thats a 2nd xserver12:11
cellofellowvidd_laptop: yes, that's gdmflexiserver, if you're using GDM.12:11
cellofellowjust try it in the run dialog.12:11
Jester45START A 2ND XSERVER12:11
cellofellowThis does it all easy for you.12:11
Jester45so much easier12:12
cellofellowIf you push New Login when XscreenSaver asks for your password, it runs gdmflexiserver.12:12
cellofellow(nice trick: if you have xnest installed, gdmflexiserver --xnest runs a nested X session.)12:12
cellofellowAn X server in an X window.12:13
Jester45i got it auto login and i just start a new server wait a few seconds and switch over12:13
Jester45can you full screen it?12:13
cellofellowgdmflexiserver will autologin if you have that setup. It's GDM.12:13
cellofellowJester45: I don't know. I thjnk that's beyond it's mission.12:13
cellofellowJester45: It's like being able to use a full-login embedded su.12:14
vidd_laptopcellofellow, it either didnt work or it crashed12:14
cellofellowtry in a terminal, it may tell you why.12:14
Jester45but wouldnt it be cool if you could fullscreen it12:14
Jester45that way you get a full desktop12:15
Jester45... what about dual moniters12:15
Jester45you might beable to get 4 differnt destops12:15
cellofellowvidd_laptop: gdmflexiserver works here.12:15
vidd_laptopno dice12:17
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cellofellowwell, maybe startx -- :1 will get you going12:19
cellofellowstartx only works in a tty though.12:19
vidd_laptopno go there either......12:20
cellofellowwhat video card are you running on?12:21
vidd_laptopis there someplace you set how many desktops you can run12:22
vidd_laptop video[Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device] 12:23
cellofellowyou can have as many X servers running as you want.12:23
cellofellowDunno why this ain12:23
cellofellow't working12:23
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cellofellowis there a kernel option to boot in a specific runlevel?12:25
cellofellowrunlevel=3 for example12:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about runlevel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rc.local - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:25

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