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| calc | raf256: alsa doesn't suck, its lack of drivers generally | 12:35 |
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| crimsun | people love blaming stuff they don't understand. | 12:36 |
| Pricey | people love blaming devs over stuff they don't understand | 12:37 |
| cps1966 | crimsun: well jump in and fix this then | 12:37 |
| crimsun | cps1966: well, give me more details. | 12:37 |
| cps1966 | i know its not skype because it work with same kernel in mandriva | 12:38 |
| crimsun | you might also note that I've led ALSA maintenance in Ubuntu for the past 2 years. | 12:38 |
| phr0stbyte | cps1966: Did you loose your sound after updates? | 12:38 |
| cps1966 | no i have sound its just the mic output is null | 12:38 |
| phr0stbyte | Ah | 12:38 |
| phr0stbyte | cps1966: Check the mic with alsamixer? | 12:39 |
| cps1966 | its all the way up and with boost on full | 12:39 |
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| SeveredCross | Woot woot. | 12:39 |
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| crimsun | "If you are filing a bug report pertaining to ALSA, please read http://www.linux-sound.info/alsa/index.php?task=support, and attach output (a URL) from the paste generated by the alsa-info.sh script linked from that page." | 12:40 |
| crimsun | right on my LP page. | 12:40 |
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| cps1966 | crimsun: that url isn't working | 12:41 |
| Peaker | Gutsy is pronounced the way it is written? | 12:41 |
| SeveredCross | I would believe so, yes. | 12:41 |
| SeveredCross | Gut-see | 12:41 |
| crimsun | cps1966: then use the output from ``lspci -nv && tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat'' | 12:42 |
| Peaker | thanks | 12:42 |
| phr0stbyte | I would shy away from updating to kernel 2.6.22-8 - at least if you are running an nvidia card | 12:42 |
| cps1966 | !pastebin | 12:43 |
| ubotu | pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) | 12:43 |
| SeveredCross | ATI works fine. :) | 12:44 |
| SeveredCross | For once. | 12:44 |
| phr0stbyte | heh | 12:44 |
| cps1966 | crimsun: here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29869/ | 12:44 |
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| SeveredCross | I just wish the ATI driver supported compositing OOTB. | 12:44 |
| SeveredCross | I hear AMD is commited to making it open-source though. | 12:45 |
| SeveredCross | Err, committed. | 12:45 |
| phr0stbyte | SeveredCross: I had to remove the kernel entry out of grub to even boot up into graphical mode | 12:45 |
| crimsun | cps1966: now, ``cat /proc/asound/cards /proc/interrupts && amixer -c2'' | 12:45 |
| cps1966 | err they should have committed themselves to nuthouse | 12:45 |
| phr0stbyte | SeveredCross: Have you seen their new card? the PowerColor Radeon HD 2900 XT | 12:49 |
| SeveredCross | Nope, haven't.. | 12:49 |
| phr0stbyte | Looks like it sucks some crazy power | 12:49 |
| SeveredCross | I've been out of the loop for a few days, haven't checked Liferea to see what's new in the world of tech. | 12:49 |
| SeveredCross | I'm probably gonna have a thousand bloody unread articles. | 12:49 |
| crimsun | cps1966: still awaiting the URL. | 12:50 |
| SeveredCross | 655. | 12:50 |
| phr0stbyte | SeveredCross: core clock speed = 743MHz | 12:50 |
| cps1966 | crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/618380 | 12:51 |
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| crimsun | cps1966: so where's the output from amixer -c2 in that paste? | 12:52 |
| cps1966 | crimsun: where is it hiding | 12:54 |
| crimsun | you didn't paste it. I have no idea. | 12:54 |
| cps1966 | 0 [ICH5 ] : ICH4 - Intel ICH5 | 12:55 |
| crimsun | no, amixer -c2 | 12:55 |
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| crimsun | not cat /proc/asound/cards | 12:55 |
| cps1966 | thats what i got | 12:56 |
| crimsun | amixer does not output that. | 12:56 |
| cps1966 | no output at all | 12:57 |
| cps1966 | just returns prompt | 12:57 |
| crimsun | `amixer -c2;echo $?` returns nothing? | 12:57 |
| cps1966 | 0 | 12:58 |
| crimsun | ah | 12:58 |
| crimsun | different output. | 12:58 |
| crimsun | you need amixer -c0 | 12:59 |
| SeveredCross | 743 Mhz! | 12:59 |
| SeveredCross | Jesus christ! | 12:59 |
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| cps1966 | crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29870/ | 01:01 |
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| crimsun | Simple mixer control 'Capture',0 | 01:02 |
| crimsun | Capabilities: cvolume cswitch | 01:02 |
| crimsun | Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right | 01:02 |
| crimsun | Limits: Capture 0 - 15 | 01:02 |
| crimsun | Front Left: Capture 0 [0%] [0.00dB] [on] | 01:02 |
| crimsun | Front Right: Capture 0 [0%] [0.00dB] [on] | 01:02 |
| crimsun | see how Capture is zeroed? | 01:02 |
| soc | hi | 01:03 |
| cps1966 | yeah so how do i change it | 01:03 |
| soc | does somebody plan to sync avivo with upstream? | 01:03 |
| crimsun | cps1966: use the mixer applet. | 01:03 |
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| crimsun | cps1966: or alsamixer or amixer or aumix or ... | 01:04 |
| soc | 0.1.0 should be out shortly,, suppoting 68 r500 gpus ... | 01:04 |
| cps1966 | alsamixer says its set at 97% | 01:05 |
| crimsun | it's not. | 01:05 |
| soc | are there plans to update avivo, so testers can get their hands on it? | 01:05 |
| crimsun | it's very, very clearly 0% | 01:05 |
| cps1966 | hmm | 01:06 |
| crimsun | cps1966: note: I'm talking about CAPTURE, not MIC. | 01:06 |
| crimsun | very, very different. | 01:06 |
| crimsun | on most AC'97 hardware, you need both Capture and Mic unmuted and non-zero | 01:06 |
| cps1966 | doesn't show capture | 01:07 |
| crimsun | so add it. | 01:07 |
| crimsun | Open Volume Control> Edit> Preferences | 01:07 |
| cps1966 | i'm using kde | 01:08 |
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| soc | does aynone know something about the avivo driver? | 01:08 |
| crimsun | so use KMix. | 01:08 |
| cps1966 | ok capture is set at 30 | 01:09 |
| cps1966 | top level | 01:09 |
| crimsun | now capture something via arecord | 01:09 |
| cps1966 | nothing | 01:11 |
| cps1966 | silence | 01:11 |
| crimsun | are you using Mic1 or Mic2 physically? | 01:12 |
| crimsun | (sometimes "front mic jack" or "rear mic jack") | 01:12 |
| cps1966 | theres only one input | 01:12 |
| crimsun | so switch the control to Mic2 | 01:13 |
| cps1966 | still nada | 01:14 |
| crimsun | play with your Surround elements. | 01:17 |
| crimsun | this includes downmixing and # channel selections | 01:17 |
| cps1966 | hmm nothing | 01:20 |
| crimsun | there are a _lot_ of combinations. | 01:20 |
| crimsun | read the ALSA wiki under Capture/Recording | 01:21 |
| crimsun | alsa.opensrc.org | 01:21 |
| cps1966 | Capture exclusive group: 0 | 01:22 |
| cps1966 | Playback channels: Mono | 01:22 |
| cps1966 | Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right | 01:22 |
| cps1966 | Limits: Playback 0 - 31 | 01:22 |
| cps1966 | Mono: Playback 30 [97%] [10.50dB] [on] | 01:22 |
| cps1966 | Front Left: Capture [on] | 01:22 |
| cps1966 | Front Right: Capture [on] | 01:22 |
| crimsun | you have additional codec quirks; the wiki mentions them. | 01:23 |
| crimsun | I'm away for the evening. | 01:23 |
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| martoss | hi folks | 02:14 |
| martoss | i am trying to get a virtualized opensuse or redhat running. | 02:14 |
| martoss | i need gutsy and the 2.6.22 kernel, due to santa rosa. | 02:14 |
| martoss | any chances to get vmware, xen or whatever running? | 02:14 |
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| soc | does someone know when a new version of the avivo driver will get into gutsy? | 02:20 |
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| justdave | I'm running gutsy, and I just installed the openvpn plugin for NetworkManager, and the Configure VPN... option shows up in the network manager menu, but when I pick it, nothing happens. Anyone know where to start troubleshooting? | 02:27 |
| justdave | found a thread on the same symptoms in the forums, but it's from Jan 2005, and whatever the issue was there was supposedly solved a long time ago. | 02:28 |
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| r00tintheb0x | Hey guys, is there any way to switch a Fedora server to an Ubuntu server remotely? Should I just SCP all the directories over and reinstall grub? | 03:09 |
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| r00tintheb0x | brb | 03:11 |
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| CharlesEdwardPax | The gutsy daily-live iso image has not been updated in quite some time now. The dail iso image, however, has. For example; the daily iso has restricted-manager 0.23 while the daily-live has only restricted-manager 0.20. | 03:37 |
| CharlesEdwardPax | Does anyone know what is going on? When can I expect to see a daily-live iso image with the current packages. I would like a current build to test on my PowerBook. Thanks... | 03:37 |
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| MrFeetio | i just installed alot of updates (kernel 22-7 to 22-8) | 03:52 |
| MrFeetio | and now my laptop is running 10 degrees(Celsius) cooler | 03:52 |
| MrFeetio | which is alot | 03:53 |
| MrFeetio | does anyone know why this may have happened(im not complaining) | 03:54 |
| Jordan_U | MrFeetio, What kind of laptop is it? | 03:55 |
| MugginsM | there was some stuff in the newer kernels that is a lot more power efficient, maybe ubuntu enabled it? | 03:55 |
| MrFeetio | its a HP dv6000t | 03:55 |
| MrFeetio | core 2 duo | 03:55 |
| MrFeetio | it used to run at 39 degrees(a few months ago) then i noticed it started running at 50(i didnt change anything) so i upgraded to 7.10(tickless kernel, and i love bleeding edge) | 03:56 |
| MrFeetio | still 50, then 15 min a updated upgraded, restarted 39-49 again | 03:57 |
| MrFeetio | *15 min ago | 03:57 |
| MrFeetio | s/a/ago | 03:57 |
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| conn | hi, has anyone tried compiz with exa on an intel graphics chipset? does it work for you? | 04:39 |
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| arooni_ | hey folks | 04:49 |
| arooni_ | can someone take a look at http://pastie.caboo.se/78772 | 04:49 |
| arooni_ | i'm having trouble getting just the intel video driver from gutsy | 04:49 |
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| shirish | ubotu mobile | 05:09 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about mobile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 05:09 |
| shirish | ubotu embedded | 05:09 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about embedded - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 05:09 |
| DanaG | !ubuntumobile | 05:09 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntumobile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 05:09 |
| shirish | DanaG: any idea about the ubuntumobile distro./stuff . I just have the mail which says it gonna happen https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-May/000289.htm nothing else | 05:10 |
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| DanaG | !hildon | 05:10 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about hildon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 05:10 |
| DanaG | !hildon-desktop | 05:10 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about hildon-desktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 05:10 |
| shirish | perhaps there is a spelling mistake or something, for I can't find aptitude show hildon :( | 05:11 |
| DanaG | Try to search, instead. | 05:12 |
| shirish | I tried just that, hildon-desktop is there as well as some libraries, but curiously no mention of any web-site although the mailing list is given. | 05:13 |
| shirish | DanaG: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded any idea how to add this link to the factoid? I went to the factoids.cgi but couldn't find a way to add it. | 05:16 |
| Amaranth | shirish: it's more 'get hildon in the archive' | 05:16 |
| Amaranth | i don't think there is going to be a distro released from it | 05:16 |
| Amaranth | !mobile is <reply>Learn more about Ubuntu Mobile at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded | 05:17 |
| Amaranth | !mobile is <reply> Learn more about Ubuntu Mobile at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded | 05:17 |
| Amaranth | stupid bot | 05:17 |
| shirish | Amaranth: I did see the mail so know its going to be an early release, I just wanted to know some stuff, btw did you just add it to the factoid like that? | 05:18 |
| Amaranth | !mobile > shirish | 05:18 |
| Amaranth | gah, wrong modifier | 05:18 |
| Amaranth | i just added it, yes | 05:18 |
| Amaranth | but you can't | 05:18 |
| shirish | I guess only ops or somebody like that can only add stuff | 05:19 |
| shirish | ubotu mobile | 05:19 |
| ubotu | Learn more about Ubuntu Mobile at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded | 05:19 |
| Amaranth | something like that | 05:19 |
| shirish | ah good :) | 05:19 |
| Amaranth | /msg ubotu %editors | 05:19 |
| Amaranth | doing it here will pretty much be the same as calling the ops | 05:19 |
| shirish | ok cool, I don't like to call anybody unless it really is necessary ;) | 05:20 |
| shirish | thanx all the same though :) | 05:20 |
| Amaranth | well, it just gives you an idea of who can add stuff | 05:21 |
| Amaranth | or you can attempt to add it and ubotu will tell us in #ubuntu-ops | 05:22 |
| shirish | that's cool :) | 05:22 |
| Amaranth | and we can review it and such | 05:22 |
| shirish | that's cool also :) | 05:22 |
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| shirish | sorry for that abrupt going off, gnash decided that it didn't like a flash file & rebooted me in the session. | 05:30 |
| shirish | its proving to be much too much pain rather than any fun with it :( | 05:30 |
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| mdurham | /leave | 05:37 |
| shirish | ubotu mobile | 05:39 |
| ubotu | Learn more about Ubuntu Mobile at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded | 05:39 |
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| Perdente | to save my life, can a swap partition be part of an extension and still work? | 05:42 |
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| DanaG | aah, it's so wonderful booting back into Gutsy after a long time in WinXP. | 06:23 |
| MugginsM | heh | 06:23 |
| DanaG | If I read text in XP for a long time, I end up with bloodshot eyes. | 06:23 |
| MugginsM | yeah, there's something up with Windows fonts | 06:23 |
| MugginsM | don't know what because they initially look ok, but they're not good | 06:23 |
| DanaG | If I do the same in Gutsy, I have no (or at least less severe) problems. | 06:23 |
| DanaG | It may be because Windows fails at DPI scaling. | 06:24 |
| MugginsM | I've noticed that | 06:24 |
| DanaG | It's "my way or the highway" -- where "my way" is Microsoft's way -- 96DPI. | 06:24 |
| DanaG | aaaaaah, soooooo much better. | 06:28 |
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| Nergar | hello | 06:59 |
| Nergar | i did the "partial upgrade" and now my system is broken | 07:05 |
| Hobbsee | then...fix it? | 07:05 |
| Hobbsee | please see the /topic | 07:05 |
| Hobbsee | and file a bug, if one is not already filed | 07:05 |
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| SeveredCross | Yes yes very cool but will it make me a midnight snack? | 07:15 |
| SeveredCross | Oops, wrong window. ^_^ | 07:15 |
| Nergar | i know, but i need help with filing the bug, i don't know which package is broken | 07:16 |
| SeveredCross | Uh.... | 07:16 |
| SeveredCross | What about your system is busted? | 07:16 |
| Hobbsee | does the upgrade output help you? | 07:16 |
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| CharlesEdwardPax | Anyone know what's causing the PPC daily-live builds to not be updating? Every day the regular daily iso has updated packages, but the daily-live one does not. | 08:27 |
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| Hobbsee | CharlesEdwardPax: yeah. they're screwed atm. | 08:33 |
| === SeveredCross cries. | ||
| SeveredCross | I just finished a full kernel configuration. | 08:33 |
| Hobbsee | CharlesEdwardPax: the livefs not building, is the actual answer | 08:33 |
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| SeveredCross | Then realized I needed kernel-package...I installed it and for some reason it decided to remove linux-headers-blah-blah....And there went my .config | 08:34 |
| Hobbsee | CharlesEdwardPax: and the livefs is not actually building, due to the dependancies not satisfiable | 08:34 |
| SeveredCross | I didn't even realize what happened until it finished. | 08:34 |
| CharlesEdwardPax | Hobbsee: Thanks for the answer. It's been bugging me for the last few days. Have you heard anything indicating when this might be fixed? Maybe for Tribe 3 on the 19th. | 08:42 |
| Hobbsee | CharlesEdwardPax: monday, probably | 08:42 |
| Hobbsee | CharlesEdwardPax: you didnt tell me which flavour | 08:42 |
| Hobbsee | CharlesEdwardPax: it'll be fixed before tribe 3, definetly | 08:42 |
| CharlesEdwardPax | Ubuntu on PPC | 08:42 |
| CharlesEdwardPax | Not Kubuntu or anything | 08:43 |
| Hobbsee | right, yeah | 08:43 |
| CharlesEdwardPax | Hobbsee: Thanks again. I'm off to sleep... | 08:44 |
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| Infecto | hello | 11:08 |
| Infecto | can some one tell me why suspend to ram don`t work ? i use ati card and gutsy. | 11:08 |
| Infecto | Linux sraptok 2.6.22-8-generic #1 SMP Thu Jul 12 15:59:45 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux | 11:09 |
| Infecto | http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide | 11:09 |
| Infecto | i do like it saids but :( | 11:09 |
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| gnomefreak | Infecto: https://launchpad.net/bugs/125946 | 11:33 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 125946 in linux-source-2.6.22 "No suspend to disk with 2.6.22 on Thinkpad Z61m" [Undecided,New] | 11:33 |
| === gnomefreak gone now :) | ||
| Infecto | gnomefreak: i use suspend to ram | 11:35 |
| Infecto | not to disk | 11:35 |
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| kingrayray | anybody got a helio ocean? hehe | 12:43 |
| kingrayray | need to figure out how to mount it as mass storage ^^ | 12:43 |
| eagles0513875 | !dpkg | 12:56 |
| ubotu | dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. | 12:56 |
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| ZeroX | i need help about customizing & rebranding ubuntu | 01:13 |
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| eagles0513875 | ZeroX: u working on creating ur own distro | 01:20 |
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| ZeroX | yep | 01:38 |
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| ZeroX | <eagles0513875> where r u | 01:39 |
| eagles0513875 | here | 01:39 |
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| eagles0513875 | im going to lunch though | 01:39 |
| ZeroX | Ok | 01:39 |
| eagles0513875 | we need to talk when i get back | 01:40 |
| eagles0513875 | im looking to creat my own distro too | 01:40 |
| eagles0513875 | brb | 01:40 |
| ZeroX | jusk one question dude | 01:40 |
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| Hobbsee | oh yay, more subdistros... | 02:01 |
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| ZeroX | yes why not | 02:02 |
| === Hobbsee wishes people would actually get their ideas into the flavours of the parent distro, and not duplicate work | ||
| ZeroX | ya ya | 02:02 |
| Hobbsee | ZeroX: because if the ideas that you have are not on crack, then we probably want them in main ubuntut. | 02:02 |
| Hobbsee | *ubuntu | 02:02 |
| Hobbsee | oh dear, i cant spell tonight | 02:02 |
| ZeroX | Oops | 02:02 |
| Hobbsee | of course, if they're a complete spinoff, then go ahead | 02:03 |
| Hobbsee | but there's limited point in getting stuff implemented in a subdistribution, if it's also good for the main one | 02:04 |
| Hobbsee | imo | 02:04 |
| ZeroX | without hesitations | 02:04 |
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| shirish | does anybody know the source package that history is part of , I tried apt-cache search history (nothing) , apt-cache madison history (nothing), aptitude show history (nothing), does anybody have any other idea? | 02:20 |
| Hobbsee | shirish: i'd guess part of bash | 02:20 |
| shirish | Hobbsee: oh ok thanx | 02:21 |
| shirish | any idea how would I find in the history all the commands which I have started or had 'dpkg' as its starting , I know 'find' or 'grep' would be used somehow. | 02:23 |
| shirish | correcting dpkg as its starting string | 02:23 |
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| Hobbsee | shirish: history | grep dpkg | 02:25 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 02:25 |
| shirish | drats lol, never thought it would be that easy, always was thinking it would be something like history find 'dpkg - *' or something complicated like that lol | 02:26 |
| Hobbsee | hehe, nope | 02:29 |
| Hobbsee | although the file that the history is stored in is ~/.bash_history | 02:30 |
| Hobbsee | so you can also do grep dpkg ~/.bash_history | 02:30 |
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| shirish | oh ok cool :) | 02:34 |
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| soc | hi | 03:33 |
| soc | my kde 4 alpha 2 chrashes because it tries to find files in /usr/lib/kde4/usr/lib/kde4 ... | 03:34 |
| soc | someone knows a fix for that? | 03:34 |
| soc | i already tried the instructions on kubuntu.org | 03:34 |
| astinus | Fix? Use KDE 3.5.x ;) | 03:34 |
| === astinus hides | ||
| soc | c'mon ... | 03:35 |
| soc | i tried kde4 because i hope i don't dislike it as much as kde3 ... | 03:35 |
| astinus | As the eminent Mr. Torvalds suggested, GNOME must be the way forward :) | 03:35 |
| Hobbsee | it's an alpha.... | 03:36 |
| astinus | well that didn't take long | 03:37 |
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| ShackJack | Hi - just wondering if any Gutsy/Compiz/XGL/fglrx users are experiencing general "wonkiness" lately... XGL on notebook not starting up right lately, desktop panel locking up, wireless stack issues... Just curious... | 04:07 |
| ShackJack | Gutsy/Nvidia/Compiz setup on 5-year old desktop is flawless ;) | 04:07 |
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| ccoffey | would the patch from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/106887 be implemented in http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/admin/grub ? | 04:33 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 106887 in grub ""ALERT! does not exist" at boot with ICH7" [Medium,Fix released] | 04:33 |
| Hobbsee | ccoffey: msot likely | 04:34 |
| ccoffey | I'm not sure how to read diff's, but it says "+grub (0.97-20ubuntu7) gutsy; urgency=low" so is that line changed to 0.97-20ubuntu7, or has that to be changed? | 04:35 |
| Hobbsee | ccoffey: yes it has been applied | 04:36 |
| Hobbsee | huh? | 04:36 |
| Hobbsee | you dont need to apply that in gutsy | 04:36 |
| Hobbsee | unless someones' pulled the patch, for some unkonwn reason | 04:36 |
| ccoffey | Hobbsee: ok, thanks. I'm not too up on diffs and so on | 04:36 |
| Hobbsee | ccoffey: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/106887/comments/51 | 04:37 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 106887 in grub ""ALERT! does not exist" at boot with ICH7" [Medium,Fix released] | 04:37 |
| ccoffey | Hobbsee: ok, makes sense now, I'm not quite down with the lingo, but I know now :) | 04:39 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 04:39 |
| Hobbsee | ccoffey: no problem | 04:39 |
| eagles0513875 | i dont know whether anyone can help me but i just upgraded to kde 3.5.7 and for some reason when i listen to any of my music (which is in flac format) in amarok throughout all the audio it cuts out intermittently | 04:40 |
| SeveredCross | Dumdedum | 04:46 |
| SeveredCross | People say you shouldn't use Alpha software. | 04:46 |
| SeveredCross | Gutsy is stable as all hell. | 04:46 |
| SeveredCross | Though one thing is bugging me--is there a bug where Gutsy doesn't lock X sessions when you close the screen on a laptop or did I miss a setting. | 04:46 |
| eagles0513875 | agreed found a few bugs and im having one with amarok and kde 3.5.7 and i found a nasty one after a dist-upgrade | 04:46 |
| eagles0513875 | missed a setting | 04:46 |
| eagles0513875 | lol | 04:46 |
| SeveredCross | The only bugs I've ran into were the apt and libcurl* issues. | 04:47 |
| eagles0513875 | open up power manager | 04:47 |
| SeveredCross | Well, the setting was all set up in Feisty heh. | 04:47 |
| ilikec0ws | My gutsy attempt didnt like me ^^ | 04:47 |
| eagles0513875 | what was ur apt issue | 04:47 |
| Hobbsee | SeveredCross: amarok != kde4 | 04:47 |
| SeveredCross | Couldn't satisfy a libapt-inst dependency for a long time. | 04:47 |
| === SeveredCross wasn't talking about KDE or Amarok.... | ||
| ilikec0ws | Lots of problems booting up, yet when I ran feisty ages ago i never had a problem | 04:47 |
| eagles0513875 | i had a nasty one with apport when i did a dist upgrade after adept notifier would crash and spawn alot of apport processes until i had no more swap space and my comp was bogged down like crazy | 04:47 |
| SeveredCross | Er, no option in power manager eagles0513875. | 04:48 |
| ilikec0ws | ie. Unconsistent booting from the livecd, then installer failed to create an ext3 partition in my HDD | 04:48 |
| SeveredCross | Weird. | 04:48 |
| eagles0513875 | SeveredCross: on the bottom | 04:48 |
| SeveredCross | I had no issues, but then I dist-upgraded from Feisty. | 04:48 |
| eagles0513875 | it says when laptop lid is closed what do u want it to do | 04:48 |
| SeveredCross | . | 04:48 |
| SeveredCross | Lock The Screen is not there. | 04:48 |
| eagles0513875 | for me it is | 04:48 |
| eagles0513875 | wait | 04:49 |
| SeveredCross | KDE has it I think, GNOME doesn't | 04:49 |
| SeveredCross | GNOME automatically locks. | 04:49 |
| eagles0513875 | r u on ubuntu or kubuntu | 04:49 |
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| eagles0513875 | im on kde and i just set it to lock | 04:49 |
| SeveredCross | GNOME usually does it without me having to tell it to, except not in Gutsy. | 04:49 |
| SeveredCross | I think I may have seen that as a reported bug. | 04:50 |
| SeveredCross | But I'm not 100%. | 04:50 |
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| eagles0513875 | severed lol that will get worked out before release | 04:50 |
| eagles0513875 | im running the x64 version of it and i love it | 04:50 |
| eagles0513875 | best 64bit os out there | 04:50 |
| SeveredCross | I know it'll get worked out, it's just a mite annoying--I've gotten used to locking the workstation by hand and just hitting Ctrl-Alt-L | 04:51 |
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| eagles0513875 | how do a move a folder from one place into another folder | 04:55 |
| eagles0513875 | i cant just drag and drop it cuz i need root privs | 04:55 |
| SeveredCross | kdesu konqueror? | 04:55 |
| SeveredCross | I know that's a bit of bad form for some reason or another that I can't remember right now but it seems like a good idea. | 04:56 |
| SeveredCross | Either that or sudo mv should do too | 04:56 |
| Hobbsee | SeveredCross: no, that's correct usage | 04:56 |
| SeveredCross | Is it? I must be mixed up. | 04:56 |
| SeveredCross | Very possible.. | 04:56 |
| Hobbsee | !sudo | 04:57 |
| ubotu | sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information. | 04:57 |
| Hobbsee | !kdesu | 04:57 |
| ubotu | In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo | 04:57 |
| eagles0513875 | Hobbsee: i knwo that already i just need to move a folder that i cant just drag and drop | 04:58 |
| Hobbsee | eagles0513875: use kdesu konqueror | 04:58 |
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| SeveredCross | jOh, righttt. | 05:01 |
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| SeveredCross | Woot! | 05:04 |
| SeveredCross | The new "blank screen when idle" is cool. | 05:04 |
| SeveredCross | And very smooth. | 05:04 |
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| Disablez | Anyone has probs purging old linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22.x? | 05:09 |
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| SeveredCross | Does anyone happen to know if the problem with vesa not being able to start X on an ATI card without fglrx has been fixed? | 05:16 |
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| ilikec0ws | Anyone know where ubuntu keeps its equivalent to /etc/rc.conf? | 05:21 |
| crimsun | ilikec0ws: there is none. | 05:22 |
| crimsun | (upstart currently provides sysvinit compatibility) | 05:22 |
| ilikec0ws | crimsun, upstart? | 05:22 |
| crimsun | upstart handles the scripts in the traditional sysvinit boot sequence | 05:23 |
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| ilikec0ws | If I have removed something from my run levels like GDM, how would I go about adding it back? | 05:24 |
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| crimsun | use update-rc.d | 05:24 |
| crimsun | see gdm's postinst file | 05:25 |
| crimsun | /var/lib/dpkg/info/gdm.postinst:101: update-rc.d gdm defaults 13 01 >/dev/null 2>&1 | 05:25 |
| ilikec0ws | Which would i run in terminal | 05:26 |
| ilikec0ws | ? | 05:26 |
| crimsun | the update-rc.d command | 05:26 |
| crimsun | see everything that follows the colon | 05:26 |
| crimsun | the second colon, that is. | 05:26 |
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| lontra | is the orinoco_cs module not included in the tribe+2 cd? i can't seem to modprobe it and it's a very common module. i use it with my orinoco card and i've never had a distro not support it | 05:57 |
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| SeveredCross | Meh, having trouble publishing my gpg key. | 05:58 |
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| mendred | hi just updated to gutsy... feels more responsive...i am trying to run compiz fusion, when i run kde-window-decorator i am getting a thick border around stuff like panels, menus etc..any idea how to remove this? | 06:10 |
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| Karti | Hi all, just trying to install 7.10 32 bit onto a 64 bit PC....having no luck, is this to be expected? | 07:21 |
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| SeveredCross | Well. | 07:22 |
| SeveredCross | In some ways, yes, Gutsy is still Tribe 2, which is alpha. | 07:22 |
| SeveredCross | But, 32bit onto 64bit should have no issues--there's no pure 64-bit processor in existence, all of them should run 32-bit no problem. | 07:23 |
| SeveredCross | What's the problem you're having | 07:23 |
| Karti | I just keep getting errors and it suggests that I try it with noapic but the same error. I thought it was my hard drive but as its a live disk it should still boot | 07:24 |
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| SeveredCross | What boot errors? | 07:24 |
| SeveredCross | Be more specific. :) | 07:24 |
| Karti | SeveredCross: brb, just switching pcs | 07:24 |
| SeveredCross | Okay. | 07:25 |
| Karti | SeveredCross: My error is ; MP-BIOS bug 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC | 07:28 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 8254 in slang "countrychooser: db_go fails when choosing Arabic as language (dup-of: 8253)" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/8254 | 07:28 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 8253 in slang "crash displaying main menu in arabic" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/8253 | 07:28 |
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| Karti | followed by Kernal panic - not syncing:IO-APIC + timer doesn't work! | 07:28 |
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| SeveredCross | Hmm. | 07:30 |
| SeveredCross | Yeah, sounds like you need noapic...Do you still get the same error with noapic? | 07:31 |
| SeveredCross | Err, you already answered that, you do. | 07:31 |
| SeveredCross | Weird. | 07:31 |
| Karti | It lets me go further, but after a few minutes of what looks like a good load, it goes to pages of errors with no access | 07:31 |
| SeveredCross | Try noapic nolapic | 07:32 |
| Karti | I got the same result | 07:32 |
| SeveredCross | Weird. | 07:32 |
| Karti | I just added it to the end of the boot list, | 07:32 |
| SeveredCross | Sounds like the kernel really hates your PC. | 07:32 |
| SeveredCross | What kind of setup do you have? | 07:32 |
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| Karti | SeveredCross: I have an ASUS M2N4-SLI motherboard with an AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 3800+, I managed to get Fedora 6 running on it, but that was just to play with, my main PC is Kubuntu | 07:36 |
| Karti | so I wanted to try out the latest version on my test one | 07:36 |
| SeveredCross | Hmmm. | 07:37 |
| SeveredCross | Interesting. | 07:37 |
| SeveredCross | Did you try the 64-bit version? | 07:37 |
| Karti | Downloading it as we speak | 07:38 |
| Karti | The only issues I have with that is the lck of drivers and I don't have the skills yet to amend them | 07:38 |
| Karti | lack of drivers rather | 07:38 |
| SeveredCross | Hmm. | 07:38 |
| SeveredCross | Yeah. | 07:38 |
| SeveredCross | What drivers do you need that aren't available? | 07:39 |
| Karti | Wifes not forgiven me for updating her to win xp 64 bit lol | 07:39 |
| SeveredCross | LOL, yeah, 64bit drivers for XP are far and few between. | 07:40 |
| Karti | I used to use VMWare on Windows which used a wireless connection but I could fool it into using it as an ethernet, as I have not got the hang of using wireless on linux yet, so my first trial into Kubuntu picked up my usb wireless straight away which pleased me no end | 07:41 |
| Karti | but wireless is my main issue | 07:41 |
| SeveredCross | Hmm. | 07:42 |
| SeveredCross | Wireless is much improved since 6.06. | 07:42 |
| SeveredCross | The biggest improvement was the jump from Edgy to Feisty, with the new NetworkManager. | 07:43 |
| Karti | to be honest once I got the hang of the manager it was easy | 07:43 |
| SeveredCross | Yeah, NetworkManager is great. | 07:43 |
| Karti | and a main reason I moved from windows to ubuntu | 07:43 |
| SeveredCross | I switched because I got sick of Windows. | 07:44 |
| SeveredCross | It always bogs down after a few months no matter how clean you keep your system. | 07:44 |
| SeveredCross | Because it accumulates cruft that you can't clean out lest you risk breaking installers and stuff. | 07:44 |
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| SeveredCross | I had accumulated almost 5 GB of installer files in Windows--but I can't delete them, otherwise the bloody uninstallers fail. | 07:44 |
| SeveredCross | Whereas apt and dpkg just know exactly what every piece of software installs and how to remove it. | 07:45 |
| Karti | I have dipped into linux for a while and the support on the irc channels swung me, some of them can quite overwhealming | 07:45 |
| SeveredCross | Yeah, #ubuntu can be a beast to follow. | 07:45 |
| Karti | I can only do it on my PCs though as the wife refuses to change......ah well | 07:47 |
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| SeveredCross | Why's she refuse? | 07:48 |
| Karti | Microsoft Chick... | 07:48 |
| SeveredCross | Argh. :-P | 07:48 |
| Karti | I actual;ly get the MS Action Pack that I use for work and the like so she has all the software available, so is unlikely to change | 07:49 |
| SeveredCross | Ah, okay. | 07:49 |
| Karti | though as I said she hates me for moxing to the 64 bit xp as her phone, webcam and ITUNES dont work that well | 07:49 |
| SeveredCross | Yeah, iTunes is busted. | 07:50 |
| SeveredCross | Dumdedum.. | 07:50 |
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| Karti | All the music she buys I can't even burn as it doesnt recognise her cdrom......had to install it on another pc just to get the stuff off! | 07:50 |
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| SeveredCross | It doesn't recognize the CD drive? WTH?? | 07:51 |
| Karti | YEAH THERE ARE LOTS OF ISSUES oops with it | 07:52 |
| Karti | if I could be bothered I would change it..... | 07:52 |
| Karti | SeveredCross: Many thanks for the help, I will try the 64 bit to see if it makes a difference after tea. I will mention it if I am sucessful....cheers | 07:55 |
| gnomefreak | guys for non gutsy topics please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic | 07:58 |
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| XVampireX | Hi | 08:34 |
| XVampireX | Can anyone please help me? xorg says that nvidia.ko doesn't exist when I do startx ... | 08:34 |
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| ccoffey | is there much work going on with dmraid and initramfs, or was most if resolved for feisty? | 08:34 |
| XVampireX | and I have linux-restricted-modules for the correct kernel and I have nvidia-kernel-common but I don't see one for the kernel I'm using (Or I'm just not aware of the one) | 08:35 |
| XVampireX | Please? | 08:36 |
| XVampireX | Or do I really need to just use feisty, cause even with feisty.... the nvidia-glx-new package is broken (lacking libwfb) | 08:36 |
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| XVampireX | And I thought the new xorg was supposed to fix this problem, too... | 08:38 |
| XVampireX | No one is available here to help me? | 08:38 |
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| XVampireX | ???????????????????????????????????? | 08:41 |
| XVampireX | !help | 08:41 |
| ubotu | I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots | 08:41 |
| XVampireX | !nvidia | 08:42 |
| ubotu | To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto | 08:42 |
| XVampireX | meh, brb | 08:42 |
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| XVampireX | cannot open /lib/modules/2.6.22-8-generic/volatile/nvidia.ko | 08:46 |
| gnomefreak | XVampireX: you ever install the drivers from nvidia.com? | 08:48 |
| gnomefreak | XVampireX: i see that happens alot when the user doesnt get rid of all traces of the upstream drivers | 08:48 |
| XVampireX | Yes I did | 08:49 |
| XVampireX | what do I do then? | 08:49 |
| gnomefreak | XVampireX: use the nvidia script that you use to install it and uninstall it (there should be a flag to pass for that | 08:50 |
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| XVampireX | Yeah but envy doesn't want to help me with gutsy | 08:50 |
| gnomefreak | XVampireX: envy == bad | 08:51 |
| XVampireX | I know | 08:51 |
| XVampireX | so what do I do then? :P | 08:51 |
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| gnomefreak | if you used envy to install it good luck. iirc there is no uninstall options with envy | 08:51 |
| XVampireX | There is | 08:51 |
| gnomefreak | uninstall the drivers and l-r-m that it builds | 08:51 |
| XVampireX | just that it doesn't work on gutsy anymore | 08:51 |
| XVampireX | l-r-m? | 08:51 |
| gnomefreak | XVampireX: all it does it removes envy not ht econfig | 08:52 |
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| gnomefreak | l-r-m linux-restricted-modules | 08:52 |
| gnomefreak | XVampireX: upstream package makes its own l-r-m and that is where you are running into issues | 08:52 |
| gnomefreak | XVampireX: nvidia.....run or sh script can uninstall everything that the script installs but envy cant (makes it worse than the upstream drivers) | 08:53 |
| XVampireX | I removed all linux-restricted-modules | 08:54 |
| XVampireX | should I remove all nvidia stuff from those places too, manually? | 08:55 |
| XVampireX | serge@serge-desktop:/usr/lib$ locate 100.14.12 | 08:58 |
| XVampireX | /var/cache/modass/_usr_src_nvidia-kernel-2.6.20-16-generic_100.14.12+2.6.20-16.29_i386.deb.txt | 08:58 |
| XVampireX | /var/cache/modass/_usr_src_nvidia-kernel-2.6.22-8-generic_100.14.12+2.6.22-8.18_i386.deb.txt | 08:58 |
| XVampireX | /usr/src/nvidia-kernel-2.6.20-16-generic_100.14.12+2.6.20-16.29_i386.deb | 08:58 |
| XVampireX | /usr/src/nvidia-kernel-2.6.22-8-generic_100.14.12+2.6.22-8.18_i386.deb | 08:58 |
| XVampireX | See, that's all I have of the version I installed | 08:59 |
| gnomefreak | get rid of it all and start over and hope all is ok | 08:59 |
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| gnomefreak | you can leave the nvidia-kernel i think | 08:59 |
| gnomefreak | XVampireX: there is more you didnt find iirc | 09:00 |
| XVampireX | such as? | 09:00 |
| gnomefreak | XVampireX: with envy its hard to tell. | 09:01 |
| XVampireX | I looked in directories too | 09:01 |
| gnomefreak | if you just used the nvidia script i could look for it but i dont know exactly what envy does when it installs it other than builds the restricted-modules for your running kenrel | 09:01 |
| XVampireX | what nvidia script? | 09:02 |
| gnomefreak | than try removing those | 09:02 |
| gnomefreak | XVampireX: envy uses the script you get from nvidia.com to install the packages | 09:02 |
| gnomefreak | s/packages/drivers | 09:02 |
| gnomefreak | XVampireX: but envy's config is not the same (how it builds than im not sure) why they didnt make a remove restricted-modules flag is beyond me | 09:03 |
| XVampireX | They... hehe :P | 09:03 |
| XVampireX | He's supposed to be here somewhere actually | 09:04 |
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| XVampireX | runtime Qt4.3 stuff is also buggy, the systray icon has some problems... | 09:09 |
| XVampireX | gnomefreak: Package nvidia-kernel-2.6.22-8-generic has no available version, but exists in the database | 09:13 |
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| XVampireX | By the way, m-a ignores nvidia-new-kernel-source .... | 09:17 |
| gnomefreak | m-a? | 09:18 |
| XVampireX | module assistant | 09:18 |
| XVampireX | So what do I do now? | 09:21 |
| XVampireX | that linux-kernel thing doesn't want to install for some reason | 09:21 |
| gnomefreak | XVampireX: you should beable to remove everything nvidia related and install nvidia-glx(-new)(legacy) and make sure if restricted-manager gets removed install it again | 09:21 |
| gnomefreak | XVampireX: it wont install because its already there just not the one from ubuntu | 09:21 |
| XVampireX | ah okye | 09:21 |
| XVampireX | okey^ | 09:21 |
| XVampireX | So what's the ubuntu version? | 09:22 |
| gnomefreak | dpkg -l nvidia should list everything, and have at it but normally its a pain to get rid of the n-r-m package thats why nvidia added an --uninstall flag | 09:23 |
| XVampireX | serge@serge-desktop:~$ dpkg -l nvidia | 09:23 |
| XVampireX | No packages found matching nvidia. | 09:23 |
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| gnomefreak | nvidia-kernel-common maybe? | 09:24 |
| XVampireX | I saw that it's a very old version... | 09:24 |
| gnomefreak | XVampireX: damn thats because its not installed as a package | 09:24 |
| gnomefreak | maybe find or locate |less | 09:24 |
| XVampireX | /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia-kernel-2.6.22-8-generic.postrm | 09:25 |
| XVampireX | /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia-kernel-2.6.20-16-generic.list | 09:25 |
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| XVampireX | I installed it... | 09:25 |
| XVampireX | I mean I installed linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-8-generic | 09:25 |
| gnomefreak | XVampireX: and you are getting that error? | 09:26 |
| XVampireX | yes | 09:26 |
| gnomefreak | XVampireX: try removing --purgeing it | 09:26 |
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| XVampireX | I tried it several times... | 09:26 |
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| gnomefreak | XVampireX: due you have envy source? | 09:27 |
| XVampireX | Not really | 09:27 |
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| gnomefreak | do they give you source freely? | 09:27 |
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| XVampireX | who's they? | 09:28 |
| XVampireX | I know this guy made it: http://albertomilone.com | 09:28 |
| gnomefreak | the envy people | 09:28 |
| gnomefreak | hmmm i think i know him atleeast that name brb | 09:28 |
| XVampireX | only one | 09:28 |
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| XVampireX | hmm, brb, myself | 09:30 |
| gnomefreak | NOTE: Envy does NOT REMOVE your RESTRICTED MODULES ANY MORE. | 09:30 |
| gnomefreak | thats bad | 09:30 |
| crdlb | err I thought it did the DISABLED_MODULES="nv" thing | 09:31 |
| gnomefreak | i havent found source yet | 09:31 |
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| crdlb | gnomefreak, as in source code? | 09:33 |
| crdlb | it's python iirc | 09:33 |
| gnomefreak | yes | 09:33 |
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| gnomefreak | might not have to | 09:33 |
| gnomefreak | i found it but may not need to look at it :) | 09:33 |
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| gnomefreak | https://bugs.launchpad.net/envy/+bug/119568 | 09:35 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 119568 in envy "envy collides with nvidia-new-kernel-source " [Undecided,New] | 09:35 |
| XVampireX | I got it to work :P | 09:35 |
| gnomefreak | XVampireX: theres a bug on the exact issue | 09:35 |
| gnomefreak | please comment on bug on how you got it to work ill ping him monday if i still have a pc up and running and ask him to find a way to flag --uninstall back to it | 09:36 |
| XVampireX | Just freaked out and it worked, really... :) Nah, Well, I don't really know how I got it to work but I did reinstall nvidia stuff several times | 09:37 |
| gnomefreak | ok out for a while still packaing | 09:38 |
| gnomefreak | packing | 09:38 |
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| nysosym | hi there | 09:44 |
| nysosym | has anyone tested one of the last gutsy dailies on a macbook ? | 09:44 |
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| XVampireX | http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/7713/qt44bughr4.png | 09:56 |
| XVampireX | notice the star (It's psi) I compiled with Qt4.3 in gutsy | 09:56 |
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| burner_ | anyone else super super thankful for evolution email that kicks major arse as of 2.11.5 :) | 09:58 |
| burner_ | it is sooooooo much faster when used with exchange servers now | 09:58 |
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| Karti | SeveredCross: Just to get back to you, the 64 bit AMD iso worked perfectly! | 10:05 |
| Karti | SeveredCross: and it picked up my wireless perfectly | 10:06 |
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| sn0 | nice Karti :) | 10:12 |
| DanaG | Is anybody else here using compiz (-fusion) ? | 10:12 |
| DanaG | I've found the official version to be very slow, for some reason. | 10:13 |
| thully | I want to run gutsy on my machine (actually, already am) but want to take a few precautions to make it easier to recover from breakage... What would be suggested? I thought of using LVM snapshots, but I'm unsure how to get started with that... | 10:13 |
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| sn0 | thully virtual machine? its not quite the same as a physical install, but its one option | 10:15 |
| mon^rch | is gutsy using compiz fusion yet? | 10:15 |
| sn0 | if its for testing, then you could just keep the /home partition on another physical partition than / and do backups regularly | 10:15 |
| sn0 | did you read that snapshots_backup link ? :) | 10:16 |
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| thully | sn0: I'd prefer testing on the bare metal - there's some hardware-specific issues I'd like to work on - and I'd like to use Compiz Fusion... | 10:16 |
| sn0 | thully indeed :) | 10:16 |
| thully | It's for testing, but I'd probably use it 80% of the time or so... I may actually want to help fix some of these bugs and maybe even do MOTU down the road... | 10:19 |
| thully | yes - I did - I'd just prefer not to have to make the actual backup and just use the snapshots as-is (make one, and revert to it with a few commands) | 10:20 |
| sn0 | thully have you heard of 'unionfs' before? | 10:20 |
| thully | that's what is used on the live CD... | 10:20 |
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| sn0 | yep, its another option you could use | 10:20 |
| sn0 | personally i just back up the list of installed packages with dpkg and my configs, everything else backed up on another partition | 10:21 |
| sn0 | haven't really tried snapshots yet | 10:21 |
| sn0 | lvm does sound like the thing you require :) | 10:21 |
| thully | I just have to figure out how to use it - I know you can create a snapshot and boot it, but not how to directly revert the main partition to the snapshot | 10:22 |
| sn0 | howtoforge have a 'guide' on setting it up and so on | 10:23 |
| thully | I will search - I'm actually messing around with LVM to find the right way of doing this... | 10:23 |
| sn0 | includes how to restore from a backup (from lvm beginner guide), it does mention debian but it could be used for gutsy too | 10:23 |
| sn0 | http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_lvm_snapshots | 10:23 |
| thully | I even thought of doing a chroot from feisty, but gutsy supports my hardware (a MacBook) much better than Feisty | 10:24 |
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| thully | works better than Windows (even with Apple's Boot Camp drivers) and second only to Mac OS X | 10:25 |
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| akos | s there a way to do something like this: copy the installation ISO to an empty hdd partition, boot from it and install? i'd do the usb-install, but i don't have enought space on it to copy the whole cd, and i don't have internet during install due to the fact that i need the atl1 drivers... | 10:28 |
| DanaG | One big reason for me using Linux more than Windows: | 10:28 |
| akos | DanaG, 10x more responsive? | 10:28 |
| DanaG | The font rendering in Windows makes my eyes become bloodshot after a short time. | 10:29 |
| akos | Is there a way to do something like this: copy the installation ISO to an empty hdd partition, boot from it and install? i'd do the usb-install, but i don't have enought space on it to copy the whole cd, and i don't have internet during install due to the fact that i need the atl1 drivers... | 10:29 |
| DanaG | In Linux, it takes a reeeeeeeeeeally long time for that to happen -- in other words, the font rendering is much better. | 10:29 |
| DanaG | akos: The alternate CD may let you use the ISO as the "Detect and mount CD" | 10:29 |
| DanaG | but I don't remember how. | 10:30 |
| akos | DanaG, huh? | 10:30 |
| akos | oh.. :| | 10:30 |
| sn0 | akos yes | 10:31 |
| sn0 | search the ubuntu wiki/forums for hd install | 10:31 |
| akos | ok | 10:31 |
| akos | sn0, i cant find it... i tried searching hd install and ubuntu hdd install, but nothing relevant | 10:34 |
| sn0 | akos something like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromHardDriveWithFloppies (uses floppies to start) | 10:36 |
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| XVampireX | my other 3 cpu's disappeared :P | 10:49 |
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| DanaG | Eeek, I found an instantly reproducible X crash: | 10:52 |
| DanaG | Have caca-utils installed, and run CACA_DRIVER=gl cacafire -- and watch X die At least with NVIDIA, that is. | 10:52 |
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| vinny | so, anyone else had their system rendered basicly usless from the latest update | 11:04 |
| vinny | no sound, oss alsa, both broken. window manager is b | 11:05 |
| vinny | borked, have to use metacity | 11:05 |
| vinny | something in there is wrong anyway :) | 11:06 |
| vinny | wireless network still works tho! | 11:06 |
| vinny | heheheh | 11:06 |
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| xarus | did any of you experience some strange problems with compiz-fusion since last dist-upgrade @ gutsy? | 11:09 |
| xarus | segmentation faults ? | 11:09 |
| xarus | unable to start? [driver: nvidia-glx] | 11:09 |
| xarus | beryl works fine | 11:10 |
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| vinny | compiz fusion is completely butchered for me | 11:19 |
| vinny | as is sound | 11:19 |
| vinny | trying to fix it all now | 11:20 |
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| xarus | ;) | 11:20 |
| vinny | xarus you t | 11:22 |
| vinny | rying to | 11:22 |
| vinny | use emerald with compiz fusion | 11:22 |
| xarus | yes | 11:22 |
| vinny | sorry it appears my keymap has been buggered up too | 11:22 |
| xarus | and it worked till yesterday | 11:22 |
| vinny | :$ | 11:22 |
| vinny | i was jsut installing jack audio routing | 11:23 |
| vinny | and i triggered an update | 11:23 |
| vinny | and let it run | 11:23 |
| vinny | and poof | 11:23 |
| vinny | byebye audio, byebye emerald | 11:23 |
| vinny | :( | 11:23 |
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| xarus | gutsy - deveoper's release | 11:23 |
| vinny | new kermelversion is prolly part of the issue | 11:23 |
| vinny | i think i saw a kernelupgrade in there | 11:23 |
| xarus | you should've been expecting that | 11:23 |
| vinny | well yes but theres hardly any point in having a discussion chanel if someones going to say that everytime anyone encounters a problem | 11:24 |
| DanaG | A bunch of my panel applets have broken, somehow. | 11:25 |
| vinny | i mean hey, look at me, im in ubuntuplus1 "oh well its a dev release, of coiurse its broken" | 11:25 |
| vinny | .... | 11:25 |
| xarus | yeah, you have a point here | 11:25 |
| DanaG | They work, until when I have to kill X for various reasons. | 11:25 |
| thully | does anyone know how to get the Cube working on Compiz Fusion in Gutsy? | 11:25 |
| vinny | yes | 11:26 |
| vinny | ill tell you<DanaG> They work, until when I have to kill X for various reasons. | 11:26 |
| xarus | thully: enable 'cube' plugin? | 11:26 |
| vinny | when i figure out how to get compiz-fusion working again | 11:26 |
| xarus | and when you figure out that please share with me. | 11:26 |
| xarus | ] ;-> | 11:26 |
| vinny | ok looks like fuision basic works | 11:26 |
| vinny | without emerald | 11:26 |
| thully | how do you do that? it's not enabled by default... | 11:26 |
| DanaG | I've just reverted to the 3v1n0 feisty repo, but I have to forbid newer official versions. | 11:26 |
| xarus | vinny: let's try it | 11:27 |
| xarus | /usr/bin/compiz: line 252: 6666 Segmentation fault /usr/bin/compiz.real $COMPIZ_OPTIONS "$@" $COMPIZ_PLUGINS | 11:27 |
| vinny | hmm | 11:27 |
| vinny | dana | 11:28 |
| vinny | you/usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: Plugin 'cube' can't be activated because plugin 'plane' is already providing feature 'largedesktop' | 11:28 |
| vinny | Initializing scale options...done | 11:28 |
| vinny | Initializing switcher options...done | 11:28 |
| vinny | Active Plugin List update | 11:28 |
| vinny | running latest | 11:29 |
| vinny | ? | 11:29 |
| vinny | damm my keymap | 11:29 |
| vinny | sorry | 11:29 |
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| vinny | wb | 11:30 |
| xarus | re | 11:30 |
| vinny | im tempted to | 11:30 |
| vinny | try tervinos feisty | 11:31 |
| xarus | what's that? | 11:31 |
| vinny | but i suspect some plugins wont work | 11:31 |
| crdlb | that's a bad idea | 11:31 |
| vinny | yeah. | 11:31 |
| vinny | i know :) | 11:31 |
| vinny | lol | 11:31 |
| crdlb | vinny, uncheck plane? | 11:31 |
| crdlb | in ccsm | 11:31 |
| vinny | lol i dont have ccsm any more | 11:32 |
| vinny | *trying gnome-compiz-manager | 11:33 |
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| vinny | *crash | 11:34 |
| vinny | i think ill just go away and play and come back when i have figured it o<xarus> what's that? | 11:34 |
| vinny | ut | 11:34 |
| xarus | gn8 | 11:34 |
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| vinny | ok so im sick of things breaking all the time | 11:50 |
| vinny | if i change my apt-sources to feisty and dist-upgreade | 11:50 |
| vinny | will it revert me to feisty? | 11:50 |
| thully | you don't want to do it - downgrades aren't a supported feature... There isn't a "dist-downgrade" command, and trying to do it manually will result in more breakage than gutsy had in the first place | 11:52 |
| thully | I've been going back and forth myself - I need some gutsy features for my MacBook (suspend-to-RAM and better power management, among others) | 11:56 |
| vinny | yeah | 11:56 |
| vinny | i to am on a macbook | 11:56 |
| thully | I've tried running in a virtual machine (actually VMware Fusion on OS X), but then you don't get the 3D-ness... | 11:58 |
| vinny | so | 11:58 |
| vinny | noob question here | 11:58 |
| vinny | i chacn | 11:58 |
| vinny | changed my apt-sources to feisty, but a dist-upgrade does nothing | 11:59 |
| vinny | i want to downgrade from gutsy | 11:59 |
| vinny | what am i doing wrong? | 11:59 |
| vinny | i did a apt-get -f update | 11:59 |
| thully | that's because you can't downgrade with apt - the only way is back up, format, restore | 11:59 |
| vinny | oh | 11:59 |
| vinny | :( | 11:59 |
| vinny | *goes to download feisty iso | 12:00 |
| vinny | linux is tempermental enough without with apt - the only way is back | 12:00 |
| vinny | up, format, restore | 12:00 |
| vinny | wtf | 12:00 |
| vinny | i dont understand why it keeps doing that | 12:00 |
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| arpu | hi @all | 12:02 |
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| arpu | i have aproblem with gutsy and wlan on my new macbook | 12:03 |
| arpu | how can i install wlan ? | 12:03 |
| thully | OK - you probably need the latest svn release of madwifi | 12:03 |
| arpu | thully : ok the included driver do not work ? | 12:04 |
| thully | yes - it's too old... | 12:04 |
| thully | I think even on Gutsy, as I don't know if they're pulling the SVN or the release | 12:05 |
| thully | I dunno myself, because I have an older MacBook that works out of the box (it only has the chipset with b/g, and not n) | 12:05 |
| thully | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook | 12:06 |
| arpu | thx thully i give it a try | 12:08 |
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| arpu | thully, thx with svn madwifi all works fine | 12:18 |
| arpu | bye | 12:18 |
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| Vorbote | /who buckaroobanzai | 12:32 |
| Vorbote | /w | 12:32 |
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