/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2007/07/14/#ubuntu+1.txt

=== Jordan_U [n=Jordan_U@h-68-164-86-118.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== raf256 [n=raf256@bru192.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== phr0stbyte [n=phr0stby@ip68-100-169-217.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
calcraf256: alsa doesn't suck, its lack of drivers generally12:35
crimsunpeople love blaming stuff they don't understand.12:36
Priceypeople love blaming devs over stuff they don't understand12:37
cps1966crimsun:  well jump in and fix this then12:37
crimsuncps1966: well, give me more details.12:37
cps1966i know its not skype because it work with same kernel in mandriva12:38
crimsunyou might also note that I've led ALSA maintenance in Ubuntu for the past 2 years.12:38
phr0stbytecps1966: Did you loose your sound after updates?12:38
cps1966no i have sound its just the mic output is null12:38
phr0stbyteAh12:38
phr0stbytecps1966: Check the mic with alsamixer?12:39
cps1966its all the way up and with boost on full12:39
=== SeveredCross [n=bojan@c-24-60-139-195.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
SeveredCrossWoot woot.12:39
=== DeepB [n=Joe@unaffiliated/deepb] has joined #ubuntu+1
crimsun"If you are filing a bug report pertaining to ALSA, please read http://www.linux-sound.info/alsa/index.php?task=support, and attach output (a URL) from the paste generated by the alsa-info.sh script linked from that page."12:40
crimsunright on my LP page.12:40
=== Peaker [n=Peaker@84.94.108.87.cable.012.net.il] has joined #ubuntu+1
cps1966crimsun:  that url isn't working12:41
PeakerGutsy is pronounced the way it is written?12:41
SeveredCrossI would believe so, yes.12:41
SeveredCrossGut-see12:41
crimsuncps1966: then use the output from ``lspci -nv && tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat''12:42
Peakerthanks12:42
phr0stbyteI would shy away from updating to kernel 2.6.22-8 - at least if you are running an nvidia card12:42
cps1966!pastebin12:43
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)12:43
SeveredCrossATI works fine. :)12:44
SeveredCrossFor once.12:44
phr0stbyteheh12:44
cps1966crimsun:  here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29869/12:44
=== raf256 [n=raf256@bru192.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu+1
SeveredCrossI just wish the ATI driver supported compositing OOTB.12:44
SeveredCrossI hear AMD is commited to making it open-source though.12:45
SeveredCrossErr, committed.12:45
phr0stbyteSeveredCross: I had to remove the kernel entry out of grub to even boot up into graphical mode12:45
crimsuncps1966: now, ``cat /proc/asound/cards /proc/interrupts && amixer -c2''12:45
cps1966err they should have committed themselves to nuthouse12:45
phr0stbyteSeveredCross: Have you seen their new card? the PowerColor Radeon HD 2900 XT12:49
SeveredCrossNope, haven't..12:49
phr0stbyteLooks like it sucks some crazy power12:49
SeveredCrossI've been out of the loop for a few days, haven't checked Liferea to see what's new in the world of tech.12:49
SeveredCrossI'm probably gonna have a thousand bloody unread articles.12:49
crimsuncps1966: still awaiting the URL.12:50
SeveredCross655.12:50
phr0stbyteSeveredCross: core clock speed = 743MHz12:50
cps1966crimsun:  http://pastebin.ca/61838012:51
=== raf256 [n=raf256@bru192.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Peaker [n=Peaker@84.94.108.87.cable.012.net.il] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Konversation]
=== voidmage-away [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
crimsuncps1966: so where's the output from amixer -c2 in that paste?12:52
cps1966crimsun:  where is it hiding12:54
crimsunyou didn't paste it.  I have no idea.12:54
cps19660 [ICH5           ] : ICH4 - Intel ICH512:55
crimsunno, amixer -c212:55
=== Whelpo [n=daniel@c-24-8-54-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
crimsunnot cat /proc/asound/cards12:55
cps1966thats what i got12:56
crimsunamixer does not output that.12:56
cps1966no output at all12:57
cps1966just returns prompt12:57
crimsun`amixer -c2;echo $?` returns nothing?12:57
cps1966012:58
crimsunah12:58
crimsundifferent output.12:58
crimsunyou need amixer -c012:59
SeveredCross743 Mhz!12:59
SeveredCrossJesus christ!12:59
=== mo0osah [n=mo0osah@cpe-70-116-21-77.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== soc [n=soc@p54ADFB17.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
cps1966crimsun:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29870/01:01
=== soc [n=soc@p54ADFB17.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Kopete]
=== soc [n=soc@p54ADFB17.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
crimsunSimple mixer control 'Capture',001:02
crimsun  Capabilities: cvolume cswitch01:02
crimsun  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right01:02
crimsun  Limits: Capture 0 - 1501:02
crimsun  Front Left: Capture 0 [0%]  [0.00dB]  [on] 01:02
crimsun  Front Right: Capture 0 [0%]  [0.00dB]  [on] 01:02
crimsunsee how Capture is zeroed?01:02
sochi01:03
cps1966yeah so how do i change it01:03
socdoes somebody plan to sync avivo with upstream?01:03
crimsuncps1966: use the mixer applet.01:03
=== wfarr [n=wfarr@adsl-224-111-29.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
crimsuncps1966: or alsamixer or amixer or aumix or ...01:04
soc0.1.0 should be out shortly,, suppoting 68 r500 gpus ...01:04
cps1966alsamixer says its set at 97%01:05
crimsunit's not.01:05
socare there plans to update avivo, so testers can get their hands on it?01:05
crimsunit's very, very clearly 0%01:05
cps1966hmm01:06
crimsuncps1966: note: I'm talking about CAPTURE, not MIC.01:06
crimsunvery, very different.01:06
crimsunon most AC'97 hardware, you need both Capture and Mic unmuted and non-zero01:06
cps1966doesn't show capture01:07
crimsunso add it.01:07
crimsunOpen Volume Control> Edit> Preferences01:07
cps1966i'm using kde01:08
=== ajmorris_ [n=ajmorris@220-253-62-106.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1
socdoes aynone know something about the avivo driver?01:08
crimsunso use KMix.01:08
cps1966ok capture is set at 3001:09
cps1966top level01:09
crimsunnow capture something via arecord01:09
cps1966nothing01:11
cps1966silence01:11
crimsunare you using Mic1 or Mic2 physically?01:12
crimsun(sometimes "front mic jack" or "rear mic jack")01:12
cps1966theres only one input01:12
crimsunso switch the control to Mic201:13
cps1966still nada01:14
crimsunplay with your Surround elements.01:17
crimsunthis includes downmixing and # channel selections01:17
cps1966hmm nothing01:20
crimsunthere are a _lot_ of combinations.01:20
crimsunread the ALSA wiki under Capture/Recording01:21
crimsunalsa.opensrc.org01:21
cps1966 Capture exclusive group: 001:22
cps1966  Playback channels: Mono01:22
cps1966  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right01:22
cps1966  Limits: Playback 0 - 3101:22
cps1966  Mono: Playback 30 [97%]  [10.50dB]  [on] 01:22
cps1966  Front Left: Capture [on] 01:22
cps1966  Front Right: Capture [on] 01:22
crimsunyou have additional codec quirks; the wiki mentions them.01:23
crimsunI'm away for the evening.01:23
=== cps1966 [n=kane@204.183.116.161] has left #ubuntu+1 []
=== Stormx2 [n=Stormx2@host-87-240-137-127.hi-velocity.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Stormx2 [n=Stormx2@host-87-240-137-127.hi-velocity.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== voidmage [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== DanaG [n=DanaG@76.209.222.176] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== bipolar [n=bflong@70.44.53.89] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== MugginsM [n=jennyj@69.55.232.10] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== DeepB [n=Joe@unaffiliated/deepb] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== _4strO [n=cedric@AStrasbourg-253-1-21-174.w86-204.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== martoss [n=martin@p549611F9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1
martosshi folks02:14
martossi am trying to get a virtualized opensuse or redhat running.02:14
martossi need gutsy and the 2.6.22 kernel, due to santa rosa.02:14
martossany chances to get vmware, xen or whatever running?02:14
=== soc [n=soc@p54ADCEDC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
socdoes someone know when a new version of the avivo driver will get into gutsy?02:20
=== Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Stormx2 [n=Stormx2@host-87-240-137-127.hi-velocity.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== justdave [n=dave@unaffiliated/justdave] has joined #ubuntu+1
justdaveI'm running gutsy, and I just installed the openvpn plugin for NetworkManager, and the Configure VPN... option shows up in the network manager menu, but when I pick it, nothing happens.  Anyone know where to start troubleshooting?02:27
justdavefound a thread on the same symptoms in the forums, but it's from Jan 2005, and whatever the issue was there was supposedly solved a long time ago.02:28
=== soc [n=soc@p54ADCEDC.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Kopete]
=== Dannilion [n=danni@149.254.192.195] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== voidmage-away [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== snax [n=snax@c-24-17-210-137.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== RAOF [n=chris@123-243-65-41.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Stormx2 [n=Stormx2@host-87-240-137-127.hi-velocity.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== DeepB [n=Joe@unaffiliated/deepb] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== r00tintheb0x [n=mking213@cpe-24-175-105-194.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1
r00tintheb0xHey guys, is there any way to switch a Fedora server to an Ubuntu server remotely? Should I just SCP all the directories over and reinstall grub?03:09
=== Stormx2 [n=Stormx2@host-87-240-137-127.hi-velocity.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
r00tintheb0xbrb03:11
=== Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== maniacmusician [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-004.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== bsheep [n=bsheep@ANantes-252-1-58-151.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== eobanb [n=eoban@cpe-76-88-26-197.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Jordan_U [n=Jordan_U@h-68-164-86-118.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== CharlesEdwardPax [n=charles@c-68-38-214-81.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
CharlesEdwardPaxThe gutsy daily-live iso image has not been updated in quite some time now. The dail iso image, however, has. For example; the daily iso has restricted-manager 0.23 while the daily-live has only restricted-manager 0.20.03:37
CharlesEdwardPaxDoes anyone know what is going on? When can I expect to see a daily-live iso image with the current packages. I would like a current build to test on my PowerBook. Thanks...03:37
=== bipolar [n=bflong@70.44.53.89] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== CharlesEdwardPax [n=charles@c-68-38-214-81.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu+1 []
=== MrFeetio [n=david@c-71-230-5-247.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== maniacmusician_ [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-004.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1
MrFeetioi just installed alot of updates (kernel 22-7 to 22-8)03:52
MrFeetioand now my laptop is running 10 degrees(Celsius) cooler03:52
MrFeetiowhich is alot03:53
MrFeetiodoes anyone know why this may have happened(im not complaining)03:54
Jordan_UMrFeetio, What kind of laptop is it?03:55
MugginsMthere was some stuff in the newer kernels that is a lot more power efficient, maybe ubuntu enabled it?03:55
MrFeetioits a HP dv6000t03:55
MrFeetiocore 2 duo03:55
MrFeetioit used to run at 39 degrees(a few months ago) then i noticed it started running at 50(i didnt change anything) so i upgraded to 7.10(tickless kernel, and i love bleeding edge)03:56
MrFeetiostill 50, then 15 min a updated upgraded, restarted 39-49 again03:57
MrFeetio*15 min ago03:57
MrFeetios/a/ago03:57
=== claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-58-153.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== tretle [n=tretle@212.2.176.184] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== DarkX [n=DarkX@r74-195-223-154.sem1cmtc01.smnlok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== conn [n=conn@83.141.127.50] has joined #ubuntu+1
connhi, has anyone tried compiz with exa on an intel graphics chipset? does it work for you?04:39
=== MrFeetio is now known as MrFeetio_away
=== masterloki [n=mloki@75.80.8.88] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== arooni_ [n=arooni@c-67-183-136-186.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== bullgard4 [n=detlef@p54BF2C69.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1
arooni_hey folks04:49
arooni_can someone take a look at http://pastie.caboo.se/7877204:49
arooni_i'm having trouble getting just the intel video driver from gutsy04:49
=== Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== MrFeetio_away [n=david@c-71-230-5-247.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu+1 []
=== hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-cccc9926b8ada579] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== shirish [n=shirish@59.95.12.114] has joined #ubuntu+1
shirishubotu mobile05:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mobile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:09
shirishubotu embedded05:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about embedded - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:09
DanaG!ubuntumobile05:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntumobile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:09
shirishDanaG: any idea about the ubuntumobile distro./stuff . I just have the mail which says it gonna happen https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-May/000289.htm nothing else05:10
=== DanaG doesn't have any more info, either.
DanaG!hildon05:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hildon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:10
DanaG!hildon-desktop05:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hildon-desktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:10
shirishperhaps there is a spelling mistake or something, for I can't find aptitude show hildon :(05:11
DanaGTry to search, instead.05:12
shirishI tried just that, hildon-desktop is there as well as some libraries, but curiously no mention of any web-site although the mailing list is given.05:13
shirishDanaG: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded any idea how to add this link to the factoid? I went to the factoids.cgi but couldn't find a way to add it.05:16
Amaranthshirish: it's more 'get hildon in the archive'05:16
Amaranthi don't think there is going to be a distro released from it05:16
Amaranth!mobile is <reply>Learn more about Ubuntu Mobile at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded05:17
Amaranth!mobile is <reply> Learn more about Ubuntu Mobile at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded05:17
Amaranthstupid bot05:17
shirishAmaranth: I did see the mail so know its going to be an early release, I just wanted to know some stuff, btw did you just add it to the factoid like that?05:18
Amaranth!mobile > shirish05:18
Amaranthgah, wrong modifier05:18
Amaranthi just added it, yes05:18
Amaranthbut you can't05:18
shirishI guess only ops or somebody like that can only add stuff05:19
shirishubotu mobile05:19
ubotuLearn more about Ubuntu Mobile at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded05:19
Amaranthsomething like that05:19
shirishah good :)05:19
Amaranth/msg ubotu %editors05:19
Amaranthdoing it here will pretty much be the same as calling the ops05:19
shirishok cool, I don't like to call anybody unless it really is necessary ;)05:20
shirishthanx all the same though :)05:20
Amaranthwell, it just gives you an idea of who can add stuff05:21
Amaranthor you can attempt to add it and ubotu will tell us in #ubuntu-ops05:22
shirishthat's cool :)05:22
Amaranthand we can review it and such05:22
shirishthat's cool also :)05:22
=== linxeh [n=linx@88-96-202-38.dsl.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== voidmage [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== shirish [n=shirish@59.95.12.114] has joined #ubuntu+1
shirishsorry for that abrupt going off, gnash decided that it didn't like a flash file & rebooted me in the session.05:30
shirishits proving to be much too much pain rather than any fun with it :(05:30
=== mdurham [n=mdurham@218-215-73-122.people.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1
mdurham/leave05:37
shirishubotu mobile05:39
ubotuLearn more about Ubuntu Mobile at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded05:39
=== mdurham [n=mdurham@218-215-73-122.people.net.au] has left #ubuntu+1 []
=== Perdente [n=Perdente@75-132-33-28.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1
Perdenteto save my life, can a swap partition be part of an extension and still work?05:42
=== manchicken [n=manchkn@74-134-231-37.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== poningru [n=poningru@ip72-209-65-174.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Tomcat_` [n=Tomcat@p5B15C999.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== theoros [n=theoros@unaffiliated/theoros] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Toxicity999 [n=bryan@unaffiliated/Toxicity999] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Fujitsu_ [n=Fujitsu@c58-107-52-79.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1
DanaGaah, it's so wonderful booting back into Gutsy after a long time in WinXP.06:23
MugginsMheh06:23
DanaGIf I read text in XP for a long time, I end up with bloodshot eyes.06:23
MugginsMyeah, there's something up with Windows fonts06:23
MugginsMdon't know what because they initially look ok, but they're not good06:23
DanaGIf I do the same in Gutsy, I have no (or at least less severe) problems.06:23
DanaGIt may be because Windows fails at DPI scaling.06:24
MugginsMI've noticed that06:24
DanaGIt's "my way or the highway" -- where "my way" is Microsoft's way -- 96DPI.06:24
DanaGaaaaaah, soooooo much better.06:28
=== wfarr [n=wfarr@adsl-224-111-29.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== mrigns__ [n=mrigns@ACB23E0B.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== wfarr [n=wfarr@adsl-224-111-29.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== wfarr [n=wfarr@adsl-224-111-29.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== wfarr [n=wfarr@adsl-224-111-29.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== wfarr [n=wfarr@adsl-224-111-29.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Nergar [n=Nergar@189.141.189.134] has joined #ubuntu+1
Nergarhello06:59
Nergari did the "partial upgrade" and now my system is broken07:05
Hobbseethen...fix it?07:05
Hobbseeplease see the /topic07:05
Hobbseeand file a bug, if one is not already filed07:05
=== blenderhead001 [n=blenderh@adsl-068-209-133-121.sip.jax.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Whelpo [n=daniel@c-24-8-54-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu+1 []
=== BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu+1
SeveredCrossYes yes very cool but will it make me a midnight snack?07:15
SeveredCrossOops, wrong window. ^_^07:15
Nergari know, but i need help with filing the bug, i don't know which package is broken07:16
SeveredCrossUh....07:16
SeveredCrossWhat about your system is busted?07:16
Hobbseedoes the upgrade output help you?07:16
=== varka [n=varkatop@p54A5E08C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== wfarr [n=wfarr@adsl-224-111-29.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Zdra [n=zdra@75.204-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== alex-weej [n=alex@cpc2-darl3-0-0-cust237.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== tritium_ [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== macd [n=d@adsl-150-25-222.aby.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== macd [n=d@cl-116.atl-01.us.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== CharlesEdwardPax [n=charles@c-68-38-214-81.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #Ubuntu+1
CharlesEdwardPaxAnyone know what's causing the PPC daily-live builds to not be updating? Every day the regular daily iso has updated packages, but the daily-live one does not.08:27
=== `23meg [n=m@ubuntu/member/-23meg] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== vicox [n=vicox@p54984F3A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
HobbseeCharlesEdwardPax: yeah.  they're screwed atm.08:33
=== SeveredCross cries.
SeveredCrossI just finished a full kernel configuration.08:33
HobbseeCharlesEdwardPax: the livefs not building, is the actual answer08:33
=== ke- [n=kenneth@port272.ds1-aboes.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu+1
SeveredCrossThen realized I needed kernel-package...I installed it and for some reason it decided to remove linux-headers-blah-blah....And there went my .config08:34
HobbseeCharlesEdwardPax: and the livefs is not actually building, due to the dependancies not satisfiable08:34
SeveredCrossI didn't even realize what happened until it finished.08:34
CharlesEdwardPaxHobbsee: Thanks for the answer. It's been bugging me for the last few days. Have you heard anything indicating when this might be fixed? Maybe for Tribe 3 on the 19th.08:42
HobbseeCharlesEdwardPax: monday, probably08:42
HobbseeCharlesEdwardPax: you didnt tell me which flavour08:42
HobbseeCharlesEdwardPax: it'll be fixed before tribe 3, definetly08:42
CharlesEdwardPaxUbuntu on PPC08:42
CharlesEdwardPaxNot Kubuntu or anything08:43
Hobbseeright, yeah08:43
CharlesEdwardPaxHobbsee: Thanks again. I'm off to sleep...08:44
=== CharlesEdwardPax [n=charles@c-68-38-214-81.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has left #Ubuntu+1 []
=== obsethryl [n=cball@unaffiliated/obsethryl] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Toma- [n=e17@203-217-0-119.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Sebastian [n=sb@p50884810.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== acuster [n=acuster@pro75-1-82-67-202-232.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Zdra_ [n=zdra@75.204-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Zdra_ [n=zdra@75.204-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== fraco [n=fraco@213.219.165.163.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has left #ubuntu+1 []
=== Frost^ [n=sweiss@89-139-179-146.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Zdra [n=zdra@75.204-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== nysosym [n=nysosym@p54B7BE2F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Toma- [n=e17@203-217-0-119.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Frost^ [n=sweiss@89-139-179-146.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Zdra [n=zdra@75.204-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== sen3 [n=sen@82.165-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-6-127.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Sebastian [n=sb@p50884810.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== tretle_ [n=tretle@194.125.97.248] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Ronald [n=Ronald@ip51-232-58-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Nicke [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu+1
Infectohello11:08
Infectocan some one tell me why suspend to ram don`t work ? i use ati card and gutsy.11:08
InfectoLinux sraptok 2.6.22-8-generic #1 SMP Thu Jul 12 15:59:45 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux11:09
Infectohttp://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide11:09
Infectoi do like it saids but :(11:09
=== pvandewyngaerde [n=pvandewy@219.64-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== teethdood [n=philip@adsl-69-230-218-113.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== CodeImp [n=dont@s55910c2b.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-102.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== borg_ [n=olaf@80.149.17.21] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== teethdood [n=philip@adsl-69-230-218-113.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Leaving"]
gnomefreakInfecto: https://launchpad.net/bugs/12594611:33
ubotuLaunchpad bug 125946 in linux-source-2.6.22 "No suspend to disk with 2.6.22 on Thinkpad Z61m" [Undecided,New] 11:33
=== gnomefreak gone now :)
Infectognomefreak: i use suspend to ram11:35
Infectonot to disk11:35
=== bipolar [n=bflong@70.44.53.89] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== astinus [n=alex@gentoo/developer/astinus] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== PsyberOne [n=PsyberOn@c-71-201-237-39.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== calc [n=ccheney@194.42.125.16] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Dannilionz [n=danni@149.254.192.195] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== dr_evil [n=dslflat@f048241055.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Toma- [n=e17@203-217-0-119.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== obsethryl [n=cball@unaffiliated/obsethryl] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== finalbeta [n=gggggggg@d54C6865D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== BHSPitMonkey_ [n=stephen@adsl-65-69-154-198.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== eagles0513875 [n=jonathan@88.203.73.158] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== kingrayray [n=kingrayr@pool-71-112-152-244.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
kingrayrayanybody got a helio ocean? hehe12:43
kingrayrayneed to figure out how to mount it as mass storage ^^12:43
eagles0513875!dpkg12:56
ubotudpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.12:56
=== dr_evil [n=dslflat@f048241055.adsl.alicedsl.de] has left #ubuntu+1 []
=== ZeroX [n=root@81.10.126.2] has joined #ubuntu+1
ZeroXi need help about customizing  & rebranding ubuntu01:13
=== ph8 [i=henri@85.234.155.91] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== RAOF [n=chris@123-243-65-41.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu+1
eagles0513875ZeroX: u working on creating ur own distro01:20
=== limetang [n=ircwhore@80-45-90-17.static.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu+1
ZeroXyep01:38
=== Dannilion [n=danni@149.254.192.192] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== voidmage [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
ZeroX<eagles0513875> where r u01:39
eagles0513875here01:39
=== SourceContact [n=SourceCo@ip24-252-111-89.no.no.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
eagles0513875im going to lunch though01:39
ZeroXOk01:39
eagles0513875we need to talk when i get back01:40
eagles0513875im looking to creat my own distro too01:40
eagles0513875brb01:40
ZeroXjusk one question dude01:40
=== Dannilion [n=danni@149.254.192.192] has joined #ubuntu+1
Hobbseeoh yay, more subdistros...02:01
=== karmue [n=karli@e178179217.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== linxeh [n=linx@88-96-202-38.dsl.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1
ZeroXyes why not02:02
=== Hobbsee wishes people would actually get their ideas into the flavours of the parent distro, and not duplicate work
ZeroXya ya02:02
HobbseeZeroX: because if the ideas that you have are not on crack, then we probably want them in main ubuntut.02:02
Hobbsee*ubuntu02:02
Hobbseeoh dear, i cant spell tonight02:02
ZeroXOops02:02
Hobbseeof course, if they're a complete spinoff, then go ahead02:03
Hobbseebut there's limited point in getting stuff implemented in a subdistribution, if it's also good for the main one02:04
Hobbseeimo02:04
ZeroX without hesitations02:04
=== FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@208.68.49.110] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Toma- [n=e17@203-217-0-119.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== shirish [n=shirish@59.95.20.225] has joined #ubuntu+1
shirishdoes anybody know the source package that history is part of , I tried apt-cache search history (nothing) , apt-cache madison history (nothing), aptitude show history (nothing), does anybody have any other idea?02:20
Hobbseeshirish: i'd guess part of bash02:20
shirishHobbsee: oh ok thanx02:21
shirishany idea how would I find in the history all the commands which I have started or had 'dpkg' as its starting , I know 'find' or 'grep' would be used somehow.02:23
shirishcorrecting  dpkg as its starting string02:23
=== stdin [i=stdin@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #ubuntu+1
Hobbseeshirish: history | grep dpkg02:25
Hobbsee:)02:25
shirishdrats lol, never thought it would be that easy, always was thinking it would be something like history find 'dpkg - *' or something complicated like that lol02:26
Hobbseehehe, nope02:29
Hobbseealthough the file that the history is stored in is ~/.bash_history02:30
Hobbseeso you can also do grep dpkg ~/.bash_history02:30
=== obsethryl [n=cball@unaffiliated/obsethryl] has joined #ubuntu+1
shirishoh ok cool :)02:34
=== Dannilion [n=danni@149.254.192.192] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== mon^rch [n=anonymou@S0106000fea33f1bb.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Tm_T [i=tm_travo@xob.kapsi.fi] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== zaggynl [n=zaggynl@dsl-083-247-110-137.solcon.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== shirish [n=shirish@59.95.20.225] has left #ubuntu+1 []
=== Tm_T [i=tm_travo@kde/developer/jkekkonen] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@208.68.51.86] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== soc [n=soc@p54ADF2CC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
sochi03:33
socmy kde 4 alpha 2 chrashes because it tries to find files in /usr/lib/kde4/usr/lib/kde4 ...03:34
socsomeone knows a fix for that?03:34
soci already tried the instructions on kubuntu.org03:34
astinusFix? Use KDE 3.5.x ;)03:34
=== astinus hides
socc'mon ...03:35
soci tried kde4 because i hope i don't dislike it as much as kde3 ...03:35
astinusAs the eminent Mr. Torvalds suggested, GNOME must be the way forward :)03:35
Hobbseeit's an alpha....03:36
astinuswell that didn't take long03:37
=== nysosym [n=nysosym@p54B7BE2F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== voidmage [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Dannilion [n=danni@149.254.192.192] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== ptn107 [n=phil@68.63.160.79] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== ShackJack [n=ShackJac@c-65-96-48-74.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
ShackJackHi - just wondering if any Gutsy/Compiz/XGL/fglrx users are experiencing general "wonkiness" lately...  XGL on notebook not starting up right lately, desktop panel locking up, wireless stack issues... Just curious...04:07
ShackJackGutsy/Nvidia/Compiz setup on 5-year old desktop is flawless ;)04:07
=== Dannilionz [n=danni@149.254.192.192] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== MacSlow [n=mirco@unaffiliated/macslow] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== ShackJack [n=ShackJac@c-65-96-48-74.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== wfarr [n=wfarr@adsl-61-114-239.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== zrg [n=andrey@85.234.187.157] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== ilikec0ws [n=chris@cpc2-oldh6-0-0-cust827.manc.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== ccoffey [n=ccoffey@83.245.76.56] has joined #ubuntu+1
ccoffeywould the patch from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/106887 be implemented in http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/admin/grub ?04:33
ubotuLaunchpad bug 106887 in grub ""ALERT! does not exist" at boot with ICH7" [Medium,Fix released] 04:33
Hobbseeccoffey: msot likely04:34
ccoffeyI'm not sure how to read diff's, but it says "+grub (0.97-20ubuntu7) gutsy; urgency=low" so is that line changed to 0.97-20ubuntu7, or has that to be changed?04:35
Hobbseeccoffey: yes it has been applied04:36
Hobbseehuh?04:36
Hobbseeyou dont need to apply that in gutsy04:36
Hobbseeunless someones' pulled the patch, for some unkonwn reason04:36
ccoffeyHobbsee: ok, thanks. I'm not too up on diffs and so on04:36
Hobbseeccoffey: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/106887/comments/5104:37
ubotuLaunchpad bug 106887 in grub ""ALERT! does not exist" at boot with ICH7" [Medium,Fix released] 04:37
ccoffeyHobbsee: ok, makes sense now, I'm not quite down with the lingo, but I know now :)04:39
Hobbsee:)04:39
Hobbseeccoffey: no problem04:39
eagles0513875i dont know whether anyone can help me but i just upgraded to kde 3.5.7 and for some reason when i listen to any of my music (which is in flac format) in amarok throughout all the audio it cuts out intermittently04:40
SeveredCrossDumdedum04:46
SeveredCrossPeople say you shouldn't use Alpha software.04:46
SeveredCrossGutsy is stable as all hell.04:46
SeveredCrossThough one thing is bugging me--is there a bug where Gutsy doesn't lock X sessions when you close the screen on a laptop or did I miss a setting.04:46
eagles0513875agreed found a few bugs and im having one with amarok and kde 3.5.7 and i found a nasty one after a dist-upgrade04:46
eagles0513875missed a setting04:46
eagles0513875lol04:46
SeveredCrossThe only bugs I've ran into were the apt and libcurl* issues.04:47
eagles0513875open up power manager04:47
SeveredCrossWell, the setting was all set up in Feisty heh.04:47
ilikec0wsMy gutsy attempt didnt like me ^^04:47
eagles0513875what was ur apt issue04:47
HobbseeSeveredCross: amarok != kde404:47
SeveredCrossCouldn't satisfy a libapt-inst dependency for a long time.04:47
=== SeveredCross wasn't talking about KDE or Amarok....
ilikec0wsLots of problems booting up, yet when I ran feisty ages ago i never had a problem04:47
eagles0513875i had a nasty one with apport when i did a dist upgrade after adept notifier would crash and spawn alot of apport processes until i had no more swap space and my comp was bogged down like crazy04:47
SeveredCrossEr, no option in power manager eagles0513875.04:48
ilikec0wsie. Unconsistent booting from the livecd, then installer failed to create an ext3  partition in my HDD04:48
SeveredCrossWeird.04:48
eagles0513875SeveredCross: on the bottom04:48
SeveredCrossI had no issues, but then I dist-upgraded from Feisty.04:48
eagles0513875it says when laptop lid is closed what do u want it to do04:48
SeveredCross.04:48
SeveredCrossLock The Screen is not there.04:48
eagles0513875for me it is04:48
eagles0513875wait04:49
SeveredCrossKDE has it I think, GNOME doesn't04:49
SeveredCrossGNOME automatically locks.04:49
eagles0513875r u on ubuntu or kubuntu04:49
=== johnnybuoy [n=johnny@unaffiliated/johnnybuoy] has joined #ubuntu+1
eagles0513875im on kde and i just set it to lock04:49
SeveredCrossGNOME usually does it without me having to tell it to, except not in Gutsy.04:49
SeveredCrossI think I may have seen that as a reported bug.04:50
SeveredCrossBut I'm not 100%.04:50
=== SourceContact [n=SourceCo@ip24-252-111-89.no.no.cox.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Leaving"]
eagles0513875severed lol that will get worked out before release04:50
eagles0513875im running the x64 version of it and i love it04:50
eagles0513875best 64bit os out there04:50
SeveredCrossI know it'll get worked out, it's just a mite annoying--I've gotten used to locking the workstation by hand and just hitting Ctrl-Alt-L04:51
=== Nicke [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu+1
eagles0513875how do a move a folder from one place into another folder04:55
eagles0513875i cant just drag and drop it cuz i need root privs04:55
SeveredCrosskdesu konqueror?04:55
SeveredCrossI know that's a bit of bad form for some reason or another that I can't remember right now but it seems like a good idea.04:56
SeveredCrossEither that or sudo mv should do too04:56
HobbseeSeveredCross: no, that's correct usage04:56
SeveredCrossIs it? I must be mixed up.04:56
SeveredCrossVery possible..04:56
Hobbsee!sudo04:57
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.04:57
Hobbsee!kdesu04:57
ubotuIn KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo04:57
eagles0513875Hobbsee: i knwo that already i just need to move a folder that i cant just drag and drop04:58
Hobbseeeagles0513875: use kdesu konqueror04:58
=== Toma- [n=e17@203-217-0-119.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1
SeveredCrossjOh, righttt.05:01
=== zewey [n=zanglang@123-51-4-15.static-dsl.qld.aussiewholesale.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
SeveredCrossWoot!05:04
SeveredCrossThe new "blank screen when idle" is cool.05:04
SeveredCrossAnd very smooth.05:04
=== Disablez [n=lorddisa@87.119.153.240] has joined #ubuntu+1
DisablezAnyone has probs purging old linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22.x?05:09
=== ShackJack [n=ShackJac@c-65-96-48-74.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu+1 []
=== adam [n=adam18@metarb3-pool1-26.mtco.com] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== adam [n=adam18@metarb3-pool1-26.mtco.com] has left #ubuntu+1 ["..."]
SeveredCrossDoes anyone happen to know if the problem with vesa not being able to start X on an ATI card without fglrx has been fixed?05:16
=== compwiz18 [n=adam18@metarb3-pool1-26.mtco.com] has joined #ubuntu+1
ilikec0wsAnyone know where ubuntu keeps its equivalent to /etc/rc.conf?05:21
crimsunilikec0ws: there is none.05:22
crimsun(upstart currently provides sysvinit compatibility)05:22
ilikec0wscrimsun, upstart?05:22
crimsunupstart handles the scripts in the traditional sysvinit boot sequence05:23
=== Frost^ [n=sweiss@89-139-179-146.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu+1
ilikec0wsIf I have removed something from my run levels like GDM, how would I go about adding it back?05:24
=== ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #ubuntu+1
crimsunuse update-rc.d05:24
crimsunsee gdm's postinst file05:25
crimsun/var/lib/dpkg/info/gdm.postinst:101:  update-rc.d gdm defaults 13 01 >/dev/null 2>&105:25
ilikec0wsWhich would i run in terminal05:26
ilikec0ws?05:26
crimsunthe update-rc.d command05:26
crimsunsee everything that follows the colon05:26
crimsunthe second colon, that is.05:26
=== pvandewyngaerde [n=pvandewy@252.214-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Sebast1an [n=sb@p508842D2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Sebast1an is now known as Sebastian
=== lontra [n=lontra@c-75-72-235-37.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
lontrais the orinoco_cs module not included in the tribe+2 cd?  i can't seem to modprobe it and it's a very common module.  i use it with my orinoco card and i've never had a distro not support it05:57
=== acuster [n=acuster@pro75-1-82-67-202-232.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["we]
=== SeveredCross [n=bojan@c-24-60-139-195.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-102.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
SeveredCrossMeh, having trouble publishing my gpg key.05:58
=== poningru [n=poningru@ip72-209-65-174.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== SourceContact [n=SourceCo@ip24-252-111-89.no.no.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== mendred [n=mendred@59.93.88.108] has joined #ubuntu+1
mendredhi just updated to gutsy... feels more responsive...i am trying to run compiz fusion, when i run kde-window-decorator i am getting a thick border around stuff like panels, menus etc..any idea how to remove this?06:10
=== Frost^ [n=sweiss@89-139-179-146.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== voidmage [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== comzip99 [n=christop@216.94.119.38] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== johnny__ [n=johnny@dra13-2-82-237-247-14.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
comzip99connect #ubuntu06:23
=== johnny__ is now known as johnnybuoy
=== comzip99 [n=christop@216.94.119.38] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Leaving"]
=== Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Jurgeni [i=jurgeni@kapsi.fi] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== johnnybuoy [n=johnny@unaffiliated/johnnybuoy] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== pecisk [n=pecisk@purvc-69-54.maksinets.lv] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Frost^ [n=sweiss@89-139-179-146.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-102.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== zrg [n=andrey@85.234.187.157] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== SeveredCross [n=bojan@c-24-60-139-195.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== kalpik [n=kalpik@122.162.161.220] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-58-76.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== SourceContact [n=SourceCo@ip24-252-111-89.no.no.cox.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Leaving"]
=== kylem [n=kyle@amnesiac.heapspace.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Dannilion [n=danni@149.254.192.195] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== kalpik [n=kalpik@122.162.161.220] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== pricechild [i=522f229e@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== kalpik [n=kalpik@122.162.161.220] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Karti [n=Karti@host217-42-42-158.range217-42.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu+1
KartiHi all, just trying to install 7.10 32 bit onto a 64 bit PC....having no luck, is this to be expected?07:21
=== Happu [n=Ilkka@165-76.adsl.lpoy.dnainternet.fi] has joined #ubuntu+1
SeveredCrossWell.07:22
SeveredCrossIn some ways, yes, Gutsy is still Tribe 2, which is alpha.07:22
SeveredCrossBut, 32bit onto 64bit should have no issues--there's no pure 64-bit processor in existence, all of them should run 32-bit no problem.07:23
SeveredCrossWhat's the problem you're having07:23
KartiI just keep getting errors and it suggests that I try it with noapic but the same error. I thought it was my hard drive but as its a live disk it should still boot07:24
=== stdin_ [i=stdin@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #ubuntu+1
SeveredCrossWhat boot errors?07:24
SeveredCrossBe more specific. :)07:24
KartiSeveredCross: brb, just switching pcs07:24
SeveredCrossOkay.07:25
KartiSeveredCross: My error is ; MP-BIOS bug 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC07:28
ubotuLaunchpad bug 8254 in slang "countrychooser: db_go fails when choosing Arabic as language (dup-of: 8253)" [Unknown,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/825407:28
ubotuLaunchpad bug 8253 in slang "crash displaying main menu in arabic" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/825307:28
=== ptn107 [n=phil@68.63.160.79] has joined #ubuntu+1
Kartifollowed by Kernal panic - not syncing:IO-APIC + timer doesn't work!07:28
=== eobanb [n=eoban@cpe-76-88-26-197.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1
SeveredCrossHmm.07:30
SeveredCrossYeah, sounds like you need noapic...Do you still get the same error with noapic?07:31
SeveredCrossErr, you already answered that, you do.07:31
SeveredCrossWeird.07:31
KartiIt lets me go further, but after a few minutes of what looks like a good load, it goes to pages of errors with no access07:31
SeveredCrossTry noapic nolapic07:32
KartiI got the same result07:32
SeveredCrossWeird.07:32
KartiI just added it to the end of the boot list,07:32
SeveredCrossSounds like the kernel really hates your PC.07:32
SeveredCrossWhat kind of setup do you have?07:32
=== \x6e\x65\x72\x64 [n=gaucho@201-66-137-34.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #ubuntu+1
KartiSeveredCross: I have an ASUS M2N4-SLI motherboard with an AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 3800+, I managed to get Fedora 6 running on it, but that was just to play with, my main PC is Kubuntu07:36
Kartiso I wanted to try out the latest version on my test one07:36
SeveredCrossHmmm.07:37
SeveredCrossInteresting.07:37
SeveredCrossDid you try the 64-bit version?07:37
KartiDownloading it as we speak07:38
KartiThe only issues I have with that is the lck of drivers and I don't have the skills yet to amend them07:38
Kartilack of drivers rather07:38
SeveredCrossHmm.07:38
SeveredCrossYeah.07:38
SeveredCrossWhat drivers do you need that aren't available?07:39
KartiWifes not forgiven me for updating her to win xp 64 bit lol07:39
SeveredCrossLOL, yeah, 64bit drivers for XP are far and few between.07:40
KartiI used to use VMWare on Windows which used a wireless connection but I could fool it into using it as an ethernet, as I have not got the hang of using wireless on linux yet, so my first trial into Kubuntu picked up my usb wireless straight away which pleased me no end07:41
Kartibut wireless is my main issue07:41
SeveredCrossHmm.07:42
SeveredCrossWireless is much improved since 6.06.07:42
SeveredCrossThe biggest improvement was the jump from Edgy to Feisty, with the new NetworkManager.07:43
Kartito be honest once I got the hang of the manager it was easy07:43
SeveredCrossYeah, NetworkManager is great.07:43
Kartiand a main reason I moved from windows to ubuntu07:43
SeveredCrossI switched because I got sick of Windows.07:44
SeveredCrossIt always bogs down after a few months no matter how clean you keep your system.07:44
SeveredCrossBecause it accumulates cruft that you can't clean out lest you risk breaking installers and stuff.07:44
=== linxeh [n=linx@88-96-202-38.dsl.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1
SeveredCrossI had accumulated almost 5 GB of installer files in Windows--but I can't delete them, otherwise the bloody uninstallers fail.07:44
SeveredCrossWhereas apt and dpkg just know exactly what every piece of software installs and how to remove it.07:45
KartiI have dipped into linux for a while and the support on the irc channels swung me, some of them can quite overwhealming07:45
SeveredCrossYeah, #ubuntu can be a beast to follow.07:45
KartiI can only do it on my PCs though as the wife refuses to change......ah well07:47
=== Talaman72 [i=kris@66-215-57-61.dhcp.gvrb.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1
SeveredCrossWhy's she refuse?07:48
KartiMicrosoft Chick...07:48
SeveredCrossArgh. :-P07:48
KartiI actual;ly get the MS Action Pack that I use for work and the like so she has all the software available, so is unlikely to change07:49
SeveredCrossAh, okay.07:49
Kartithough as I said she hates me for moxing to the 64 bit xp as her phone, webcam and ITUNES dont work that well07:49
SeveredCrossYeah, iTunes is busted.07:50
SeveredCrossDumdedum..07:50
=== SeveredCross twiddles his thumbs while tetex gets installed.
KartiAll the music she buys I can't even burn as it doesnt recognise her cdrom......had to install it on another pc just to get the stuff off!07:50
=== Lynx- [n=andrey@85.234.187.165] has joined #ubuntu+1
SeveredCrossIt doesn't recognize the CD drive? WTH??07:51
KartiYEAH THERE ARE LOTS OF ISSUES oops with it07:52
Kartiif I could be bothered I would change it.....07:52
KartiSeveredCross: Many thanks for the help, I will try the 64 bit to see if it makes a difference after tea. I will mention it if I am sucessful....cheers07:55
gnomefreakguys for non gutsy topics please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic07:58
=== akos [n=akos@86.123.180.80] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Lynx-- [n=andrey@85.234.187.165] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== vicox [n=vicox@p54985C85.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-7-140.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== soothsayer [n=user@bas16-montreal02-1242356765.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== soothsayer [n=user@bas16-montreal02-1242356765.dsl.bell.ca] has left #ubuntu+1 ["ERC]
=== XVampireX [n=serge@unaffiliated/xvampirex] has joined #ubuntu+1
XVampireXHi08:34
XVampireXCan anyone please help me? xorg says that nvidia.ko doesn't exist when I do startx ...08:34
=== wfarr [n=wfarr@adsl-61-114-239.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
ccoffeyis there much work going on with dmraid and initramfs, or was most if resolved for feisty?08:34
XVampireXand I have linux-restricted-modules for the correct kernel and I have nvidia-kernel-common but I don't see one for the kernel I'm using (Or I'm just not aware of the one)08:35
XVampireXPlease?08:36
XVampireXOr do I really need to just use feisty, cause even with feisty.... the nvidia-glx-new package is broken (lacking libwfb)08:36
=== poningru [n=poningru@ip72-209-65-174.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
XVampireXAnd I thought the new xorg was supposed to fix this problem, too...08:38
XVampireXNo one is available here to help me?08:38
=== Frost^ [n=sweiss@89-139-179-146.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu+1
XVampireX????????????????????????????????????08:41
XVampireX!help08:41
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots08:41
XVampireX!nvidia08:42
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:42
XVampireXmeh, brb08:42
=== pvandewyngaerde [n=pvandewy@158.22-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== XVampire1 [n=serge@82.166.24.88] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== XVampireX [n=serge@unaffiliated/xvampirex] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== masterloki [n=mloki@75.80.8.88] has joined #ubuntu+1
XVampireXcannot open /lib/modules/2.6.22-8-generic/volatile/nvidia.ko08:46
gnomefreakXVampireX: you ever install the drivers from nvidia.com?08:48
gnomefreakXVampireX: i see that happens alot when the user doesnt get rid of all traces of the upstream drivers08:48
XVampireXYes I did08:49
XVampireXwhat do I do then?08:49
gnomefreakXVampireX: use the nvidia script that you use to install it and uninstall it (there should be a flag to pass for that08:50
=== gnomefreak doesnt remember exactly how to do it
XVampireXYeah but envy doesn't want to help me with gutsy08:50
gnomefreakXVampireX: envy == bad08:51
XVampireXI know08:51
XVampireXso what do I do then? :P08:51
=== mloki_ [n=mloki@75.80.8.88] has joined #ubuntu+1
gnomefreakif you used envy to install it good luck. iirc there is no uninstall options with envy08:51
XVampireXThere is08:51
gnomefreakuninstall the drivers and l-r-m that it builds08:51
XVampireXjust that it doesn't work on gutsy anymore08:51
XVampireXl-r-m?08:51
gnomefreakXVampireX: all it does it removes envy not ht econfig08:52
=== mloki_ [n=mloki@75.80.8.88] has joined #ubuntu+1
gnomefreakl-r-m linux-restricted-modules08:52
gnomefreakXVampireX: upstream package makes its own l-r-m and that is where you are running into issues08:52
gnomefreakXVampireX: nvidia.....run or sh script can uninstall everything that the script installs but envy cant (makes it worse than the upstream drivers)08:53
XVampireXI removed all linux-restricted-modules08:54
XVampireXshould I remove all nvidia stuff from those places too, manually?08:55
XVampireXserge@serge-desktop:/usr/lib$ locate 100.14.1208:58
XVampireX/var/cache/modass/_usr_src_nvidia-kernel-2.6.20-16-generic_100.14.12+2.6.20-16.29_i386.deb.txt08:58
XVampireX/var/cache/modass/_usr_src_nvidia-kernel-2.6.22-8-generic_100.14.12+2.6.22-8.18_i386.deb.txt08:58
XVampireX/usr/src/nvidia-kernel-2.6.20-16-generic_100.14.12+2.6.20-16.29_i386.deb08:58
XVampireX/usr/src/nvidia-kernel-2.6.22-8-generic_100.14.12+2.6.22-8.18_i386.deb08:58
XVampireXSee, that's all I have of the version I installed08:59
gnomefreakget rid of it all and start over and hope all is ok08:59
=== compengi back
gnomefreakyou can leave the nvidia-kernel i think08:59
gnomefreakXVampireX: there is more you didnt find iirc09:00
XVampireXsuch as?09:00
gnomefreakXVampireX: with envy its hard to tell.09:01
XVampireXI looked in directories too09:01
gnomefreakif you just used the nvidia script i could look for it but i dont know exactly what envy does when it installs it other than builds the restricted-modules for your running kenrel09:01
XVampireXwhat nvidia script?09:02
gnomefreakthan try removing those09:02
gnomefreakXVampireX: envy uses the script you get from nvidia.com to install the packages09:02
gnomefreaks/packages/drivers09:02
gnomefreakXVampireX: but envy's config is not the same (how it builds than im not sure) why they didnt make a remove restricted-modules flag is beyond me09:03
XVampireXThey... hehe :P09:03
XVampireXHe's supposed to be here somewhere actually09:04
=== joumetal [n=joumetal@laku34.adsl.netsonic.fi] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== johnnybuoy [n=johnny@unaffiliated/johnnybuoy] has joined #ubuntu+1
XVampireXruntime Qt4.3 stuff is also buggy, the systray icon has some problems...09:09
XVampireXgnomefreak: Package nvidia-kernel-2.6.22-8-generic has no available version, but exists in the database09:13
=== bur[n] e1 [n=burner@c-71-56-237-100.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== bur[n] e1 is now known as burner
=== zrg [n=andrey@85.234.187.157] has joined #ubuntu+1
XVampireXBy the way, m-a ignores nvidia-new-kernel-source ....09:17
gnomefreakm-a?09:18
XVampireXmodule assistant09:18
XVampireXSo what do I do now?09:21
XVampireXthat linux-kernel thing doesn't want to install for some reason09:21
gnomefreakXVampireX: you should beable to remove everything nvidia related and install nvidia-glx(-new)(legacy) and make sure if restricted-manager gets removed install it again09:21
gnomefreakXVampireX: it wont install because its already there just not the one from ubuntu09:21
XVampireXah okye09:21
XVampireXokey^09:21
XVampireXSo what's the ubuntu version?09:22
gnomefreakdpkg -l nvidia should list everything, and have at it but normally its a pain to get rid of the n-r-m package thats why nvidia added an --uninstall flag09:23
XVampireXserge@serge-desktop:~$ dpkg -l nvidia09:23
XVampireXNo packages found matching nvidia.09:23
=== burner [n=burner@c-71-56-237-100.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu+1 []
gnomefreaknvidia-kernel-common maybe?09:24
XVampireXI saw that it's a very old version...09:24
gnomefreakXVampireX: damn thats because its not installed as a package09:24
gnomefreakmaybe find or locate |less09:24
XVampireX/var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia-kernel-2.6.22-8-generic.postrm09:25
XVampireX/var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia-kernel-2.6.20-16-generic.list09:25
=== gnomefreak wonders if forcing linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-8-generic would work (yes i know force is bad and im not suggesting you do it)
XVampireXI installed it...09:25
XVampireXI mean I installed linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-8-generic09:25
gnomefreakXVampireX: and you are getting that error?09:26
XVampireXyes09:26
gnomefreakXVampireX: try removing --purgeing it09:26
=== jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-102.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
XVampireXI tried it several times...09:26
=== gnomefreak wants to say i fixed it that way once but dont hold me to that
gnomefreakXVampireX: due you have envy source?09:27
XVampireXNot really09:27
=== chrisbudden14 [n=chrisbud@dsl-dp-81-140-108-130.in-addr.broadbandscope.com] has joined #ubuntu+1
gnomefreakdo they give you source freely?09:27
=== claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-58-76.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
XVampireXwho's they?09:28
XVampireXI know this guy made it: http://albertomilone.com09:28
gnomefreakthe envy people09:28
gnomefreakhmmm i think i know him atleeast that name brb09:28
XVampireXonly one09:28
=== compengi [n=compengi@85.112.67.128] has joined #ubuntu+1
XVampireXhmm, brb, myself09:30
gnomefreakNOTE: Envy does NOT REMOVE your RESTRICTED MODULES ANY MORE.09:30
gnomefreakthats bad09:30
crdlberr I thought it did the DISABLED_MODULES="nv" thing09:31
gnomefreaki havent found source yet09:31
=== johnnybuoy_ [n=johnny@dra13-2-82-237-247-14.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
crdlbgnomefreak, as in source code?09:33
crdlbit's python iirc09:33
gnomefreakyes09:33
=== johnnybuoy_ is now known as johnnybuoy
gnomefreakmight not have to09:33
gnomefreaki found it but may not need to look at it :)09:33
=== BHSPitMonkey_ is now known as BHSPitMonkey
=== XVampireX [n=serge@unaffiliated/xvampirex] has joined #ubuntu+1
gnomefreakhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/envy/+bug/11956809:35
ubotuLaunchpad bug 119568 in envy "envy collides with nvidia-new-kernel-source " [Undecided,New] 09:35
XVampireXI got it to work :P09:35
gnomefreakXVampireX: theres a bug on the exact issue09:35
gnomefreakplease comment on bug on how you got it to work ill ping him monday if i still have a pc up and running and ask him to find a way to flag --uninstall back to it09:36
XVampireXJust freaked out and it worked, really... :) Nah, Well, I don't really know how I got it to work but I did reinstall nvidia stuff several times09:37
gnomefreakok out for a while still packaing09:38
gnomefreakpacking09:38
=== nysosym [n=nysosym@p54B7BE2F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1
nysosymhi there09:44
nysosymhas anyone tested one of the last gutsy dailies on a macbook ?09:44
=== eobanb [n=eoban@cpe-76-88-26-197.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== xtknight [n=xtknight@c-68-43-120-159.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-15-9.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Zdra [n=zdra@75.204-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Zdra_ [n=zdra@75.204-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Ilokaasu [n=matti@dsl-aur-ff27c000-33.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu+1
XVampireXhttp://img526.imageshack.us/img526/7713/qt44bughr4.png09:56
XVampireXnotice the star (It's psi) I compiled with Qt4.3 in gutsy09:56
=== Ronald [n=Ronald@ip51-232-58-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== burner_ [n=burner@c-71-56-237-100.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
burner_anyone else super super thankful for evolution email that kicks major arse as of 2.11.5 :)09:58
burner_it is sooooooo much faster when used with exchange servers now09:58
=== thully [n=thully@dpc6746164142.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== johnnybuoy [n=johnny@unaffiliated/johnnybuoy] has joined #ubuntu+1
KartiSeveredCross: Just to get back to you, the 64 bit AMD iso worked perfectly!10:05
KartiSeveredCross: and it picked up my wireless perfectly10:06
=== BHSPitMonkey [n=stephen@adsl-65-69-154-198.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
sn0nice Karti :)10:12
DanaGIs anybody else here using compiz (-fusion) ?10:12
DanaGI've found the official version to be very slow, for some reason.10:13
thullyI want to run gutsy on my machine (actually, already am) but want to take a few precautions to make it easier to recover from breakage...  What would be suggested?  I thought of using LVM snapshots, but I'm unsure how to get started with that...10:13
=== mo0osah [n=mo0osah@cpe-70-116-21-77.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1
sn0thully virtual machine? its not quite the same as a physical install, but its one option10:15
mon^rchis gutsy using compiz fusion yet?10:15
sn0if its for testing, then you could just keep the /home partition on another physical partition than / and do backups regularly10:15
sn0did you read that snapshots_backup link ? :)10:16
=== snax [n=snax@c-24-17-210-137.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
thullysn0: I'd prefer testing on the bare metal - there's some hardware-specific issues I'd like to work on - and I'd like to use Compiz Fusion...10:16
sn0thully indeed :)10:16
thullyIt's for testing, but I'd probably use it 80% of the time or so... I may actually want to help fix some of these bugs and maybe even do MOTU down the road...10:19
thullyyes - I did - I'd just prefer not to have to make the actual backup and just use the snapshots as-is (make one, and revert to it with a few commands)10:20
sn0thully have you heard of 'unionfs' before?10:20
thullythat's what is used on the live CD...10:20
=== nysosym [n=nysosym@p54B7BE2F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1
sn0yep, its another option you could use10:20
sn0personally i just back up the list of installed packages with dpkg and my configs, everything else backed up on another partition10:21
sn0haven't really tried snapshots yet10:21
sn0lvm does sound like the thing you require :)10:21
thullyI just have to figure out how to use it - I know you can create a snapshot and boot it, but not how to directly revert the main partition to the snapshot10:22
sn0howtoforge have a 'guide' on setting it up and so on10:23
thullyI will search - I'm actually messing around with LVM to find the right way of doing this...10:23
sn0includes how to restore from a backup (from lvm beginner guide), it does mention debian but it could be used for gutsy too10:23
sn0http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_lvm_snapshots10:23
thullyI even thought of doing a chroot from feisty, but gutsy supports my hardware (a MacBook) much better than Feisty10:24
=== zaggynl [n=zaggynl@dsl-083-247-110-137.solcon.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1
thullyworks better than Windows (even with Apple's Boot Camp drivers) and second only to Mac OS X10:25
=== thully [n=thully@dpc6746164142.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== akos [n=akos@86.123.188.101] has joined #ubuntu+1
akoss there a way to do something like this: copy the installation ISO to an empty hdd partition, boot from it and install? i'd do the usb-install, but i don't have enought space on it to copy the whole cd, and i don't have internet during install due to the fact that i need the atl1 drivers...10:28
DanaGOne big reason for me using Linux more than Windows:10:28
akosDanaG, 10x more responsive?10:28
DanaGThe font rendering in Windows makes my eyes become bloodshot after a short time.10:29
akosIs there a way to do something like this: copy the installation ISO to an empty hdd partition, boot from it and install? i'd do the usb-install, but i don't have enought space on it to copy the whole cd, and i don't have internet during install due to the fact that i need the atl1 drivers...10:29
DanaGIn Linux, it takes a reeeeeeeeeeally long time for that to happen -- in other words, the font rendering is much better.10:29
DanaGakos: The alternate CD may let you use the ISO as the "Detect and mount CD"10:29
DanaGbut I don't remember how.10:30
akosDanaG, huh?10:30
akosoh.. :|10:30
sn0akos yes10:31
sn0search the ubuntu wiki/forums for hd install10:31
akosok10:31
akossn0, i cant find it... i tried searching hd install and ubuntu hdd install, but nothing relevant10:34
sn0akos something like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromHardDriveWithFloppies (uses floppies to start)10:36
=== FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@208.69.214.65] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== otix [n=otis@dsl081-234-005.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Ex-Chat"]
=== DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Nicke [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Kill_X [i=kill_x@p54A15F32.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== XVampireX [n=serge@unaffiliated/xvampirex] has joined #ubuntu+1
XVampireXmy other 3 cpu's disappeared :P10:49
=== XVampireX lols
=== Pumpernickle [n=Pumperni@about/essy/bacon/PuMpErNiCkLe] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== thully [n=thully@dpc6746164142.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu+1
DanaGEeek, I found an instantly reproducible X crash:10:52
DanaGHave caca-utils installed, and run CACA_DRIVER=gl cacafire -- and watch X die   At least with NVIDIA, that is.10:52
=== DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== vinny [n=vinny@203-109-245-124.static.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu+1
vinnyso, anyone else had their system rendered basicly usless from the latest update11:04
vinnyno sound, oss alsa, both broken. window manager is b11:05
vinnyborked, have to use metacity11:05
vinnysomething in there is wrong anyway :)11:06
vinnywireless network still works tho!11:06
vinnyheheheh11:06
=== Pumpernickel [n=Pumperni@about/essy/bacon/PuMpErNiCkLe] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== xarus [i=xardas@xardas.pl] has joined #ubuntu+1
xarusdid any of you experience some strange problems with compiz-fusion since last dist-upgrade @ gutsy?11:09
xarussegmentation faults ?11:09
xarusunable to start? [driver: nvidia-glx] 11:09
xarusberyl works fine11:10
=== Pumperni1kle [n=Pumperni@CPE0016b6c9fba4-CM0012c9a9a6dc.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== XVampireX [n=serge@unaffiliated/xvampirex] has joined #ubuntu+1
vinnycompiz fusion is completely butchered for me11:19
vinnyas is sound11:19
vinnytrying to fix it all now11:20
=== blenderhead001 [n=blenderh@adsl-068-209-133-121.sip.jax.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
xarus;)11:20
vinnyxarus you t11:22
vinnyrying to11:22
vinnyuse emerald with compiz fusion11:22
xarusyes11:22
vinnysorry it appears my keymap has been buggered up too11:22
xarusand it worked till yesterday11:22
vinny:$11:22
vinnyi was jsut installing jack audio routing11:23
vinnyand i triggered an update11:23
vinnyand let it run11:23
vinnyand poof11:23
vinnybyebye audio, byebye emerald11:23
vinny:(11:23
=== thully [n=thully@dpc6746164142.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu+1
xarusgutsy - deveoper's release11:23
vinnynew kermelversion is prolly part of the issue11:23
vinnyi think i saw a kernelupgrade in there11:23
xarusyou should've been expecting that11:23
vinnywell yes but theres hardly any point in having a discussion chanel if someones going to say that everytime anyone encounters a problem11:24
DanaGA bunch of my panel applets have broken, somehow.11:25
vinnyi mean hey, look at me, im in ubuntuplus1 "oh well its a dev release, of coiurse its broken"11:25
vinny....11:25
xarusyeah, you have a point here11:25
DanaGThey work, until when I have to kill X for various reasons.11:25
thullydoes anyone know how to get the Cube working on Compiz Fusion in Gutsy?11:25
vinnyyes11:26
vinnyill tell you<DanaG> They work, until when I have to kill X for various reasons.11:26
xarusthully: enable 'cube' plugin?11:26
vinny when i figure out how to get compiz-fusion working again11:26
xarusand when you figure out that please share with me.11:26
xarus ] ;->11:26
vinnyok looks like fuision basic works11:26
vinnywithout emerald11:26
thullyhow do you do that?  it's not enabled by default...11:26
DanaGI've just reverted to the 3v1n0 feisty repo, but I have to forbid newer official versions.11:26
xarusvinny: let's try it11:27
xarus/usr/bin/compiz: line 252:  6666 Segmentation fault      /usr/bin/compiz.real $COMPIZ_OPTIONS "$@" $COMPIZ_PLUGINS11:27
vinnyhmm11:27
vinnydana11:28
vinnyyou/usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: Plugin 'cube' can't be activated because plugin 'plane' is already providing feature 'largedesktop'11:28
vinnyInitializing scale options...done11:28
vinnyInitializing switcher options...done11:28
vinnyActive Plugin List update11:28
vinny running latest11:29
vinny?11:29
vinnydamm my keymap11:29
vinnysorry11:29
=== xarus [i=xardas@xardas.pl] has joined #ubuntu+1
vinnywb11:30
xarusre11:30
vinnyim tempted to11:30
vinnytry tervinos feisty11:31
xaruswhat's that?11:31
vinnybut i suspect some plugins wont work11:31
crdlbthat's a bad idea11:31
vinnyyeah.11:31
vinnyi know :)11:31
vinnylol11:31
crdlbvinny, uncheck plane?11:31
crdlbin ccsm11:31
vinnylol i dont have ccsm any more11:32
vinny*trying gnome-compiz-manager11:33
=== cypherdelic [n=cypherde@e182027236.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has left #ubuntu+1 []
vinny*crash11:34
vinnyi think ill just go away and play and come back when i have figured it o<xarus> what's that?11:34
vinnyut11:34
xarusgn811:34
=== obsethryl [n=cball@unaffiliated/obsethryl] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Zdra_ [n=zdra@75.204-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== vinny [n=vinny@203-109-245-124.static.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu+1
vinnyok so im sick of things breaking all the time11:50
vinnyif i change my apt-sources to feisty and dist-upgreade11:50
vinnywill it revert me to feisty?11:50
thullyyou don't want to do it - downgrades aren't a supported feature...  There isn't a "dist-downgrade" command, and trying to do it manually will result in more breakage than gutsy had in the first place11:52
thullyI've been going back and forth myself - I need some gutsy features for my MacBook (suspend-to-RAM and better power management, among others)11:56
vinnyyeah11:56
vinnyi to am on a macbook11:56
thullyI've tried running in a virtual machine (actually VMware Fusion on OS X), but then you don't get the 3D-ness...11:58
vinnyso11:58
vinnynoob question here11:58
vinnyi chacn11:58
vinnychanged my apt-sources to feisty, but a dist-upgrade does nothing11:59
vinnyi want to downgrade from gutsy11:59
vinnywhat am i doing wrong?11:59
vinnyi did a apt-get -f update11:59
thullythat's because you can't downgrade with apt - the only way is back up, format, restore11:59
vinnyoh11:59
vinny:(11:59
vinny*goes to download feisty iso12:00
vinnylinux is tempermental enough without with apt - the only way is back12:00
vinny          up, format, restore12:00
vinnywtf12:00
vinnyi dont understand why it keeps doing that12:00
=== vinny [n=vinny@203-109-245-124.static.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has left #ubuntu+1 []
=== arpu [n=arpu@p54BFC72E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1
arpuhi @all12:02
=== Dannilion [n=danni@149.254.200.222] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== ahuman [n=oem@ool-18b8b7f4.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu+1
arpu i have aproblem with gutsy and wlan on my new macbook12:03
arpuhow can i install wlan ?12:03
thullyOK - you probably need the latest svn release of madwifi12:03
arputhully : ok the included driver do not   work ?12:04
thullyyes - it's too old...12:04
thullyI think even on Gutsy, as I don't know if they're pulling the SVN or the release12:05
thullyI dunno myself, because I have an older MacBook that works out of the box (it only has the chipset with b/g, and not n)12:05
thullyhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook12:06
arputhx thully i give it a try12:08
=== arpu [n=arpu@p54BFC72E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1
arputhully, thx with svn madwifi all works fine12:18
arpubye12:18
=== stdin [i=stdin@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== squire [n=squire@82.153.99.54] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Subhuman [n=jack@host86-143-235-27.range86-143.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== MugginsM [n=jennyj@69.55.232.10] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== stdin [i=stdin@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== _4str1 [n=cedric@AStrasbourg-253-1-47-191.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1
=== Vorbote [n=vorbote@unaffiliated/vorbote] has joined #ubuntu+1
Vorbote/who buckaroobanzai12:32
Vorbote/w12:32
=== Pumpernickel [n=Pumperni@about/essy/bacon/PuMpErNiCkLe] has joined #ubuntu+1

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!