=== Jordan_U [n=Jordan_U@h-68-164-86-118.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === raf256 [n=raf256@bru192.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === phr0stbyte [n=phr0stby@ip68-100-169-217.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:35] raf256: alsa doesn't suck, its lack of drivers generally [12:36] people love blaming stuff they don't understand. [12:37] people love blaming devs over stuff they don't understand [12:37] crimsun: well jump in and fix this then [12:37] cps1966: well, give me more details. [12:38] i know its not skype because it work with same kernel in mandriva [12:38] you might also note that I've led ALSA maintenance in Ubuntu for the past 2 years. [12:38] cps1966: Did you loose your sound after updates? [12:38] no i have sound its just the mic output is null [12:38] Ah [12:39] cps1966: Check the mic with alsamixer? [12:39] its all the way up and with boost on full === SeveredCross [n=bojan@c-24-60-139-195.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:39] Woot woot. === DeepB [n=Joe@unaffiliated/deepb] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:40] "If you are filing a bug report pertaining to ALSA, please read http://www.linux-sound.info/alsa/index.php?task=support, and attach output (a URL) from the paste generated by the alsa-info.sh script linked from that page." [12:40] right on my LP page. === Peaker [n=Peaker@84.94.108.87.cable.012.net.il] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:41] crimsun: that url isn't working [12:41] Gutsy is pronounced the way it is written? [12:41] I would believe so, yes. [12:41] Gut-see [12:42] cps1966: then use the output from ``lspci -nv && tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat'' [12:42] thanks [12:42] I would shy away from updating to kernel 2.6.22-8 - at least if you are running an nvidia card [12:43] !pastebin [12:43] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [12:44] ATI works fine. :) [12:44] For once. [12:44] heh [12:44] crimsun: here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29869/ === raf256 [n=raf256@bru192.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:44] I just wish the ATI driver supported compositing OOTB. [12:45] I hear AMD is commited to making it open-source though. [12:45] Err, committed. [12:45] SeveredCross: I had to remove the kernel entry out of grub to even boot up into graphical mode [12:45] cps1966: now, ``cat /proc/asound/cards /proc/interrupts && amixer -c2'' [12:45] err they should have committed themselves to nuthouse [12:49] SeveredCross: Have you seen their new card? the PowerColor Radeon HD 2900 XT [12:49] Nope, haven't.. [12:49] Looks like it sucks some crazy power [12:49] I've been out of the loop for a few days, haven't checked Liferea to see what's new in the world of tech. [12:49] I'm probably gonna have a thousand bloody unread articles. [12:50] cps1966: still awaiting the URL. [12:50] 655. [12:50] SeveredCross: core clock speed = 743MHz [12:51] crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/618380 === raf256 [n=raf256@bru192.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Peaker [n=Peaker@84.94.108.87.cable.012.net.il] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Konversation] === voidmage-away [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:52] cps1966: so where's the output from amixer -c2 in that paste? [12:54] crimsun: where is it hiding [12:54] you didn't paste it. I have no idea. [12:55] 0 [ICH5 ] : ICH4 - Intel ICH5 [12:55] no, amixer -c2 === Whelpo [n=daniel@c-24-8-54-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:55] not cat /proc/asound/cards [12:56] thats what i got [12:56] amixer does not output that. [12:57] no output at all [12:57] just returns prompt [12:57] `amixer -c2;echo $?` returns nothing? [12:58] 0 [12:58] ah [12:58] different output. [12:59] you need amixer -c0 [12:59] 743 Mhz! [12:59] Jesus christ! === mo0osah [n=mo0osah@cpe-70-116-21-77.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === soc [n=soc@p54ADFB17.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:01] crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29870/ === soc [n=soc@p54ADFB17.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Kopete] === soc [n=soc@p54ADFB17.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:02] Simple mixer control 'Capture',0 [01:02] Capabilities: cvolume cswitch [01:02] Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right [01:02] Limits: Capture 0 - 15 [01:02] Front Left: Capture 0 [0%] [0.00dB] [on] [01:02] Front Right: Capture 0 [0%] [0.00dB] [on] [01:02] see how Capture is zeroed? [01:03] hi [01:03] yeah so how do i change it [01:03] does somebody plan to sync avivo with upstream? [01:03] cps1966: use the mixer applet. === wfarr [n=wfarr@adsl-224-111-29.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:04] cps1966: or alsamixer or amixer or aumix or ... [01:04] 0.1.0 should be out shortly,, suppoting 68 r500 gpus ... [01:05] alsamixer says its set at 97% [01:05] it's not. [01:05] are there plans to update avivo, so testers can get their hands on it? [01:05] it's very, very clearly 0% [01:06] hmm [01:06] cps1966: note: I'm talking about CAPTURE, not MIC. [01:06] very, very different. [01:06] on most AC'97 hardware, you need both Capture and Mic unmuted and non-zero [01:07] doesn't show capture [01:07] so add it. [01:07] Open Volume Control> Edit> Preferences [01:08] i'm using kde === ajmorris_ [n=ajmorris@220-253-62-106.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:08] does aynone know something about the avivo driver? [01:08] so use KMix. [01:09] ok capture is set at 30 [01:09] top level [01:09] now capture something via arecord [01:11] nothing [01:11] silence [01:12] are you using Mic1 or Mic2 physically? [01:12] (sometimes "front mic jack" or "rear mic jack") [01:12] theres only one input [01:13] so switch the control to Mic2 [01:14] still nada [01:17] play with your Surround elements. [01:17] this includes downmixing and # channel selections [01:20] hmm nothing [01:20] there are a _lot_ of combinations. [01:21] read the ALSA wiki under Capture/Recording [01:21] alsa.opensrc.org [01:22] Capture exclusive group: 0 [01:22] Playback channels: Mono [01:22] Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right [01:22] Limits: Playback 0 - 31 [01:22] Mono: Playback 30 [97%] [10.50dB] [on] [01:22] Front Left: Capture [on] [01:22] Front Right: Capture [on] [01:23] you have additional codec quirks; the wiki mentions them. [01:23] I'm away for the evening. === cps1966 [n=kane@204.183.116.161] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === Stormx2 [n=Stormx2@host-87-240-137-127.hi-velocity.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Stormx2 [n=Stormx2@host-87-240-137-127.hi-velocity.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === voidmage [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=DanaG@76.209.222.176] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bipolar [n=bflong@70.44.53.89] has joined #ubuntu+1 === MugginsM [n=jennyj@69.55.232.10] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DeepB [n=Joe@unaffiliated/deepb] has joined #ubuntu+1 === _4strO [n=cedric@AStrasbourg-253-1-21-174.w86-204.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1 === martoss [n=martin@p549611F9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:14] hi folks [02:14] i am trying to get a virtualized opensuse or redhat running. [02:14] i need gutsy and the 2.6.22 kernel, due to santa rosa. [02:14] any chances to get vmware, xen or whatever running? === soc [n=soc@p54ADCEDC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:20] does someone know when a new version of the avivo driver will get into gutsy? === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Stormx2 [n=Stormx2@host-87-240-137-127.hi-velocity.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === justdave [n=dave@unaffiliated/justdave] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:27] I'm running gutsy, and I just installed the openvpn plugin for NetworkManager, and the Configure VPN... option shows up in the network manager menu, but when I pick it, nothing happens. Anyone know where to start troubleshooting? [02:28] found a thread on the same symptoms in the forums, but it's from Jan 2005, and whatever the issue was there was supposedly solved a long time ago. === soc [n=soc@p54ADCEDC.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Kopete] === Dannilion [n=danni@149.254.192.195] has joined #ubuntu+1 === voidmage-away [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === snax [n=snax@c-24-17-210-137.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === RAOF [n=chris@123-243-65-41.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Stormx2 [n=Stormx2@host-87-240-137-127.hi-velocity.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DeepB [n=Joe@unaffiliated/deepb] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === r00tintheb0x [n=mking213@cpe-24-175-105-194.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:09] Hey guys, is there any way to switch a Fedora server to an Ubuntu server remotely? Should I just SCP all the directories over and reinstall grub? === Stormx2 [n=Stormx2@host-87-240-137-127.hi-velocity.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:11] brb === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu+1 === maniacmusician [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-004.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bsheep [n=bsheep@ANantes-252-1-58-151.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1 === eobanb [n=eoban@cpe-76-88-26-197.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Jordan_U [n=Jordan_U@h-68-164-86-118.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === CharlesEdwardPax [n=charles@c-68-38-214-81.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:37] The gutsy daily-live iso image has not been updated in quite some time now. The dail iso image, however, has. For example; the daily iso has restricted-manager 0.23 while the daily-live has only restricted-manager 0.20. [03:37] Does anyone know what is going on? When can I expect to see a daily-live iso image with the current packages. I would like a current build to test on my PowerBook. Thanks... === bipolar [n=bflong@70.44.53.89] has joined #ubuntu+1 === CharlesEdwardPax [n=charles@c-68-38-214-81.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === MrFeetio [n=david@c-71-230-5-247.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === maniacmusician_ [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-004.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:52] i just installed alot of updates (kernel 22-7 to 22-8) [03:52] and now my laptop is running 10 degrees(Celsius) cooler [03:53] which is alot [03:54] does anyone know why this may have happened(im not complaining) [03:55] MrFeetio, What kind of laptop is it? [03:55] there was some stuff in the newer kernels that is a lot more power efficient, maybe ubuntu enabled it? [03:55] its a HP dv6000t [03:55] core 2 duo [03:56] it used to run at 39 degrees(a few months ago) then i noticed it started running at 50(i didnt change anything) so i upgraded to 7.10(tickless kernel, and i love bleeding edge) [03:57] still 50, then 15 min a updated upgraded, restarted 39-49 again [03:57] *15 min ago [03:57] s/a/ago === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-58-153.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu+1 === tretle [n=tretle@212.2.176.184] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DarkX [n=DarkX@r74-195-223-154.sem1cmtc01.smnlok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu+1 === conn [n=conn@83.141.127.50] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:39] hi, has anyone tried compiz with exa on an intel graphics chipset? does it work for you? === MrFeetio is now known as MrFeetio_away === masterloki [n=mloki@75.80.8.88] has joined #ubuntu+1 === arooni_ [n=arooni@c-67-183-136-186.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bullgard4 [n=detlef@p54BF2C69.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:49] hey folks [04:49] can someone take a look at http://pastie.caboo.se/78772 [04:49] i'm having trouble getting just the intel video driver from gutsy === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu+1 === MrFeetio_away [n=david@c-71-230-5-247.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-cccc9926b8ada579] has joined #ubuntu+1 === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.12.114] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:09] ubotu mobile [05:09] Sorry, I don't know anything about mobile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [05:09] ubotu embedded [05:09] Sorry, I don't know anything about embedded - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [05:09] !ubuntumobile [05:09] Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntumobile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [05:10] DanaG: any idea about the ubuntumobile distro./stuff . I just have the mail which says it gonna happen https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-May/000289.htm nothing else === DanaG doesn't have any more info, either. [05:10] !hildon [05:10] Sorry, I don't know anything about hildon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [05:10] !hildon-desktop [05:10] Sorry, I don't know anything about hildon-desktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [05:11] perhaps there is a spelling mistake or something, for I can't find aptitude show hildon :( [05:12] Try to search, instead. [05:13] I tried just that, hildon-desktop is there as well as some libraries, but curiously no mention of any web-site although the mailing list is given. [05:16] DanaG: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded any idea how to add this link to the factoid? I went to the factoids.cgi but couldn't find a way to add it. [05:16] shirish: it's more 'get hildon in the archive' [05:16] i don't think there is going to be a distro released from it [05:17] !mobile is Learn more about Ubuntu Mobile at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded [05:17] !mobile is Learn more about Ubuntu Mobile at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded [05:17] stupid bot [05:18] Amaranth: I did see the mail so know its going to be an early release, I just wanted to know some stuff, btw did you just add it to the factoid like that? [05:18] !mobile > shirish [05:18] gah, wrong modifier [05:18] i just added it, yes [05:18] but you can't [05:19] I guess only ops or somebody like that can only add stuff [05:19] ubotu mobile [05:19] Learn more about Ubuntu Mobile at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded [05:19] something like that [05:19] ah good :) [05:19] /msg ubotu %editors [05:19] doing it here will pretty much be the same as calling the ops [05:20] ok cool, I don't like to call anybody unless it really is necessary ;) [05:20] thanx all the same though :) [05:21] well, it just gives you an idea of who can add stuff [05:22] or you can attempt to add it and ubotu will tell us in #ubuntu-ops [05:22] that's cool :) [05:22] and we can review it and such [05:22] that's cool also :) === linxeh [n=linx@88-96-202-38.dsl.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === voidmage [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.12.114] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:30] sorry for that abrupt going off, gnash decided that it didn't like a flash file & rebooted me in the session. [05:30] its proving to be much too much pain rather than any fun with it :( === mdurham [n=mdurham@218-215-73-122.people.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:37] /leave [05:39] ubotu mobile [05:39] Learn more about Ubuntu Mobile at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded === mdurham [n=mdurham@218-215-73-122.people.net.au] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === Perdente [n=Perdente@75-132-33-28.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:42] to save my life, can a swap partition be part of an extension and still work? === manchicken [n=manchkn@74-134-231-37.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === poningru [n=poningru@ip72-209-65-174.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Tomcat_` [n=Tomcat@p5B15C999.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === theoros [n=theoros@unaffiliated/theoros] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Toxicity999 [n=bryan@unaffiliated/Toxicity999] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Fujitsu_ [n=Fujitsu@c58-107-52-79.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:23] aah, it's so wonderful booting back into Gutsy after a long time in WinXP. [06:23] heh [06:23] If I read text in XP for a long time, I end up with bloodshot eyes. [06:23] yeah, there's something up with Windows fonts [06:23] don't know what because they initially look ok, but they're not good [06:23] If I do the same in Gutsy, I have no (or at least less severe) problems. [06:24] It may be because Windows fails at DPI scaling. [06:24] I've noticed that [06:24] It's "my way or the highway" -- where "my way" is Microsoft's way -- 96DPI. [06:28] aaaaaah, soooooo much better. === wfarr [n=wfarr@adsl-224-111-29.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mrigns__ [n=mrigns@ACB23E0B.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === wfarr [n=wfarr@adsl-224-111-29.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === wfarr [n=wfarr@adsl-224-111-29.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #ubuntu+1 === wfarr [n=wfarr@adsl-224-111-29.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === wfarr [n=wfarr@adsl-224-111-29.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Nergar [n=Nergar@189.141.189.134] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:59] hello [07:05] i did the "partial upgrade" and now my system is broken [07:05] then...fix it? [07:05] please see the /topic [07:05] and file a bug, if one is not already filed === blenderhead001 [n=blenderh@adsl-068-209-133-121.sip.jax.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Whelpo [n=daniel@c-24-8-54-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:15] Yes yes very cool but will it make me a midnight snack? [07:15] Oops, wrong window. ^_^ [07:16] i know, but i need help with filing the bug, i don't know which package is broken [07:16] Uh.... [07:16] What about your system is busted? [07:16] does the upgrade output help you? === varka [n=varkatop@p54A5E08C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === wfarr [n=wfarr@adsl-224-111-29.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Zdra [n=zdra@75.204-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === alex-weej [n=alex@cpc2-darl3-0-0-cust237.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === tritium_ [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu+1 === macd [n=d@adsl-150-25-222.aby.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === macd [n=d@cl-116.atl-01.us.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === CharlesEdwardPax [n=charles@c-68-38-214-81.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #Ubuntu+1 [08:27] Anyone know what's causing the PPC daily-live builds to not be updating? Every day the regular daily iso has updated packages, but the daily-live one does not. === `23meg [n=m@ubuntu/member/-23meg] has joined #ubuntu+1 === vicox [n=vicox@p54984F3A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:33] CharlesEdwardPax: yeah. they're screwed atm. === SeveredCross cries. [08:33] I just finished a full kernel configuration. [08:33] CharlesEdwardPax: the livefs not building, is the actual answer === ke- [n=kenneth@port272.ds1-aboes.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:34] Then realized I needed kernel-package...I installed it and for some reason it decided to remove linux-headers-blah-blah....And there went my .config [08:34] CharlesEdwardPax: and the livefs is not actually building, due to the dependancies not satisfiable [08:34] I didn't even realize what happened until it finished. [08:42] Hobbsee: Thanks for the answer. It's been bugging me for the last few days. Have you heard anything indicating when this might be fixed? Maybe for Tribe 3 on the 19th. [08:42] CharlesEdwardPax: monday, probably [08:42] CharlesEdwardPax: you didnt tell me which flavour [08:42] CharlesEdwardPax: it'll be fixed before tribe 3, definetly [08:42] Ubuntu on PPC [08:43] Not Kubuntu or anything [08:43] right, yeah [08:44] Hobbsee: Thanks again. 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[11:09] Linux sraptok 2.6.22-8-generic #1 SMP Thu Jul 12 15:59:45 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux [11:09] http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide [11:09] i do like it saids but :( === pvandewyngaerde [n=pvandewy@219.64-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === teethdood [n=philip@adsl-69-230-218-113.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === CodeImp [n=dont@s55910c2b.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-102.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === borg_ [n=olaf@80.149.17.21] has joined #ubuntu+1 === teethdood [n=philip@adsl-69-230-218-113.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Leaving"] [11:33] Infecto: https://launchpad.net/bugs/125946 [11:33] Launchpad bug 125946 in linux-source-2.6.22 "No suspend to disk with 2.6.22 on Thinkpad Z61m" [Undecided,New] === gnomefreak gone now :) [11:35] gnomefreak: i use suspend to ram [11:35] not to disk === bipolar [n=bflong@70.44.53.89] has joined #ubuntu+1 === astinus [n=alex@gentoo/developer/astinus] has joined #ubuntu+1 === PsyberOne [n=PsyberOn@c-71-201-237-39.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === calc [n=ccheney@194.42.125.16] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Dannilionz [n=danni@149.254.192.195] has joined #ubuntu+1 === dr_evil [n=dslflat@f048241055.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Toma- [n=e17@203-217-0-119.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === obsethryl [n=cball@unaffiliated/obsethryl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === finalbeta [n=gggggggg@d54C6865D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === BHSPitMonkey_ [n=stephen@adsl-65-69-154-198.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === eagles0513875 [n=jonathan@88.203.73.158] has joined #ubuntu+1 === kingrayray [n=kingrayr@pool-71-112-152-244.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:43] anybody got a helio ocean? hehe [12:43] need to figure out how to mount it as mass storage ^^ [12:56] !dpkg [12:56] dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. === dr_evil [n=dslflat@f048241055.adsl.alicedsl.de] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === ZeroX [n=root@81.10.126.2] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:13] i need help about customizing & rebranding ubuntu === ph8 [i=henri@85.234.155.91] has joined #ubuntu+1 === RAOF [n=chris@123-243-65-41.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:20] ZeroX: u working on creating ur own distro === limetang [n=ircwhore@80-45-90-17.static.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:38] yep === Dannilion [n=danni@149.254.192.192] has joined #ubuntu+1 === voidmage [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:39] where r u [01:39] here === SourceContact [n=SourceCo@ip24-252-111-89.no.no.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:39] im going to lunch though [01:39] Ok [01:40] we need to talk when i get back [01:40] im looking to creat my own distro too [01:40] brb [01:40] jusk one question dude === Dannilion [n=danni@149.254.192.192] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:01] oh yay, more subdistros... === karmue [n=karli@e178179217.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === linxeh [n=linx@88-96-202-38.dsl.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:02] yes why not === Hobbsee wishes people would actually get their ideas into the flavours of the parent distro, and not duplicate work [02:02] ya ya [02:02] ZeroX: because if the ideas that you have are not on crack, then we probably want them in main ubuntut. [02:02] *ubuntu [02:02] oh dear, i cant spell tonight [02:02] Oops [02:03] of course, if they're a complete spinoff, then go ahead [02:04] but there's limited point in getting stuff implemented in a subdistribution, if it's also good for the main one [02:04] imo [02:04] without hesitations === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@208.68.49.110] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Toma- [n=e17@203-217-0-119.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.20.225] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:20] does anybody know the source package that history is part of , I tried apt-cache search history (nothing) , apt-cache madison history (nothing), aptitude show history (nothing), does anybody have any other idea? [02:20] shirish: i'd guess part of bash [02:21] Hobbsee: oh ok thanx [02:23] any idea how would I find in the history all the commands which I have started or had 'dpkg' as its starting , I know 'find' or 'grep' would be used somehow. [02:23] correcting dpkg as its starting string === stdin [i=stdin@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:25] shirish: history | grep dpkg [02:25] :) [02:26] drats lol, never thought it would be that easy, always was thinking it would be something like history find 'dpkg - *' or something complicated like that lol [02:29] hehe, nope [02:30] although the file that the history is stored in is ~/.bash_history [02:30] so you can also do grep dpkg ~/.bash_history === obsethryl [n=cball@unaffiliated/obsethryl] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:34] oh ok cool :) === Dannilion [n=danni@149.254.192.192] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mon^rch [n=anonymou@S0106000fea33f1bb.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Tm_T [i=tm_travo@xob.kapsi.fi] has joined #ubuntu+1 === zaggynl [n=zaggynl@dsl-083-247-110-137.solcon.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.20.225] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === Tm_T [i=tm_travo@kde/developer/jkekkonen] has joined #ubuntu+1 === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@208.68.51.86] has joined #ubuntu+1 === soc [n=soc@p54ADF2CC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:33] hi [03:34] my kde 4 alpha 2 chrashes because it tries to find files in /usr/lib/kde4/usr/lib/kde4 ... [03:34] someone knows a fix for that? [03:34] i already tried the instructions on kubuntu.org [03:34] Fix? Use KDE 3.5.x ;) === astinus hides [03:35] c'mon ... [03:35] i tried kde4 because i hope i don't dislike it as much as kde3 ... [03:35] As the eminent Mr. Torvalds suggested, GNOME must be the way forward :) [03:36] it's an alpha.... [03:37] well that didn't take long === nysosym [n=nysosym@p54B7BE2F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === voidmage [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Dannilion [n=danni@149.254.192.192] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ptn107 [n=phil@68.63.160.79] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ShackJack [n=ShackJac@c-65-96-48-74.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:07] Hi - just wondering if any Gutsy/Compiz/XGL/fglrx users are experiencing general "wonkiness" lately... XGL on notebook not starting up right lately, desktop panel locking up, wireless stack issues... Just curious... [04:07] Gutsy/Nvidia/Compiz setup on 5-year old desktop is flawless ;) === Dannilionz [n=danni@149.254.192.192] has joined #ubuntu+1 === MacSlow [n=mirco@unaffiliated/macslow] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ShackJack [n=ShackJac@c-65-96-48-74.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === wfarr [n=wfarr@adsl-61-114-239.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === zrg [n=andrey@85.234.187.157] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ilikec0ws [n=chris@cpc2-oldh6-0-0-cust827.manc.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ccoffey [n=ccoffey@83.245.76.56] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:33] would the patch from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/106887 be implemented in http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/admin/grub ? [04:33] Launchpad bug 106887 in grub ""ALERT! does not exist" at boot with ICH7" [Medium,Fix released] [04:34] ccoffey: msot likely [04:35] I'm not sure how to read diff's, but it says "+grub (0.97-20ubuntu7) gutsy; urgency=low" so is that line changed to 0.97-20ubuntu7, or has that to be changed? [04:36] ccoffey: yes it has been applied [04:36] huh? [04:36] you dont need to apply that in gutsy [04:36] unless someones' pulled the patch, for some unkonwn reason [04:36] Hobbsee: ok, thanks. I'm not too up on diffs and so on [04:37] ccoffey: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/106887/comments/51 [04:37] Launchpad bug 106887 in grub ""ALERT! does not exist" at boot with ICH7" [Medium,Fix released] [04:39] Hobbsee: ok, makes sense now, I'm not quite down with the lingo, but I know now :) [04:39] :) [04:39] ccoffey: no problem [04:40] i dont know whether anyone can help me but i just upgraded to kde 3.5.7 and for some reason when i listen to any of my music (which is in flac format) in amarok throughout all the audio it cuts out intermittently [04:46] Dumdedum [04:46] People say you shouldn't use Alpha software. [04:46] Gutsy is stable as all hell. [04:46] Though one thing is bugging me--is there a bug where Gutsy doesn't lock X sessions when you close the screen on a laptop or did I miss a setting. [04:46] agreed found a few bugs and im having one with amarok and kde 3.5.7 and i found a nasty one after a dist-upgrade [04:46] missed a setting [04:46] lol [04:47] The only bugs I've ran into were the apt and libcurl* issues. [04:47] open up power manager [04:47] Well, the setting was all set up in Feisty heh. [04:47] My gutsy attempt didnt like me ^^ [04:47] what was ur apt issue [04:47] SeveredCross: amarok != kde4 [04:47] Couldn't satisfy a libapt-inst dependency for a long time. === SeveredCross wasn't talking about KDE or Amarok.... [04:47] Lots of problems booting up, yet when I ran feisty ages ago i never had a problem [04:47] i had a nasty one with apport when i did a dist upgrade after adept notifier would crash and spawn alot of apport processes until i had no more swap space and my comp was bogged down like crazy [04:48] Er, no option in power manager eagles0513875. [04:48] ie. Unconsistent booting from the livecd, then installer failed to create an ext3 partition in my HDD [04:48] Weird. [04:48] SeveredCross: on the bottom [04:48] I had no issues, but then I dist-upgraded from Feisty. [04:48] it says when laptop lid is closed what do u want it to do [04:48] . [04:48] Lock The Screen is not there. [04:48] for me it is [04:49] wait [04:49] KDE has it I think, GNOME doesn't [04:49] GNOME automatically locks. [04:49] r u on ubuntu or kubuntu === johnnybuoy [n=johnny@unaffiliated/johnnybuoy] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:49] im on kde and i just set it to lock [04:49] GNOME usually does it without me having to tell it to, except not in Gutsy. [04:50] I think I may have seen that as a reported bug. [04:50] But I'm not 100%. === SourceContact [n=SourceCo@ip24-252-111-89.no.no.cox.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Leaving"] [04:50] severed lol that will get worked out before release [04:50] im running the x64 version of it and i love it [04:50] best 64bit os out there [04:51] I know it'll get worked out, it's just a mite annoying--I've gotten used to locking the workstation by hand and just hitting Ctrl-Alt-L === Nicke [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:55] how do a move a folder from one place into another folder [04:55] i cant just drag and drop it cuz i need root privs [04:55] kdesu konqueror? [04:56] I know that's a bit of bad form for some reason or another that I can't remember right now but it seems like a good idea. [04:56] Either that or sudo mv should do too [04:56] SeveredCross: no, that's correct usage [04:56] Is it? I must be mixed up. [04:56] Very possible.. [04:57] !sudo [04:57] sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information. [04:57] !kdesu [04:57] In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use sudo ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo [04:58] Hobbsee: i knwo that already i just need to move a folder that i cant just drag and drop [04:58] eagles0513875: use kdesu konqueror === Toma- [n=e17@203-217-0-119.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:01] jOh, righttt. === zewey [n=zanglang@123-51-4-15.static-dsl.qld.aussiewholesale.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:04] Woot! [05:04] The new "blank screen when idle" is cool. [05:04] And very smooth. === Disablez [n=lorddisa@87.119.153.240] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:09] Anyone has probs purging old linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22.x? === ShackJack [n=ShackJac@c-65-96-48-74.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === adam [n=adam18@metarb3-pool1-26.mtco.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === adam [n=adam18@metarb3-pool1-26.mtco.com] has left #ubuntu+1 ["..."] [05:16] Does anyone happen to know if the problem with vesa not being able to start X on an ATI card without fglrx has been fixed? === compwiz18 [n=adam18@metarb3-pool1-26.mtco.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:21] Anyone know where ubuntu keeps its equivalent to /etc/rc.conf? [05:22] ilikec0ws: there is none. [05:22] (upstart currently provides sysvinit compatibility) [05:22] crimsun, upstart? [05:23] upstart handles the scripts in the traditional sysvinit boot sequence === Frost^ [n=sweiss@89-139-179-146.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:24] If I have removed something from my run levels like GDM, how would I go about adding it back? === ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:24] use update-rc.d [05:25] see gdm's postinst file [05:25] /var/lib/dpkg/info/gdm.postinst:101: update-rc.d gdm defaults 13 01 >/dev/null 2>&1 [05:26] Which would i run in terminal [05:26] ? [05:26] the update-rc.d command [05:26] see everything that follows the colon [05:26] the second colon, that is. === pvandewyngaerde [n=pvandewy@252.214-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Sebast1an [n=sb@p508842D2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Sebast1an is now known as Sebastian === lontra [n=lontra@c-75-72-235-37.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:57] is the orinoco_cs module not included in the tribe+2 cd? i can't seem to modprobe it and it's a very common module. i use it with my orinoco card and i've never had a distro not support it === acuster [n=acuster@pro75-1-82-67-202-232.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["we] === SeveredCross [n=bojan@c-24-60-139-195.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-102.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:58] Meh, having trouble publishing my gpg key. === poningru [n=poningru@ip72-209-65-174.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === SourceContact [n=SourceCo@ip24-252-111-89.no.no.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mendred [n=mendred@59.93.88.108] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:10] hi just updated to gutsy... feels more responsive...i am trying to run compiz fusion, when i run kde-window-decorator i am getting a thick border around stuff like panels, menus etc..any idea how to remove this? === Frost^ [n=sweiss@89-139-179-146.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === voidmage [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === comzip99 [n=christop@216.94.119.38] has joined #ubuntu+1 === johnny__ [n=johnny@dra13-2-82-237-247-14.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:23] connect #ubuntu === johnny__ is now known as johnnybuoy === comzip99 [n=christop@216.94.119.38] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Leaving"] === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Jurgeni [i=jurgeni@kapsi.fi] has joined #ubuntu+1 === johnnybuoy [n=johnny@unaffiliated/johnnybuoy] has joined #ubuntu+1 === pecisk [n=pecisk@purvc-69-54.maksinets.lv] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Frost^ [n=sweiss@89-139-179-146.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-102.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === zrg [n=andrey@85.234.187.157] has joined #ubuntu+1 === SeveredCross [n=bojan@c-24-60-139-195.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === kalpik [n=kalpik@122.162.161.220] has joined #ubuntu+1 === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-58-76.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === SourceContact [n=SourceCo@ip24-252-111-89.no.no.cox.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Leaving"] === kylem [n=kyle@amnesiac.heapspace.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Dannilion [n=danni@149.254.192.195] has joined #ubuntu+1 === kalpik [n=kalpik@122.162.161.220] has joined #ubuntu+1 === pricechild [i=522f229e@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu+1 === kalpik [n=kalpik@122.162.161.220] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Karti [n=Karti@host217-42-42-158.range217-42.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:21] Hi all, just trying to install 7.10 32 bit onto a 64 bit PC....having no luck, is this to be expected? === Happu [n=Ilkka@165-76.adsl.lpoy.dnainternet.fi] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:22] Well. [07:22] In some ways, yes, Gutsy is still Tribe 2, which is alpha. [07:23] But, 32bit onto 64bit should have no issues--there's no pure 64-bit processor in existence, all of them should run 32-bit no problem. [07:23] What's the problem you're having [07:24] I just keep getting errors and it suggests that I try it with noapic but the same error. I thought it was my hard drive but as its a live disk it should still boot === stdin_ [i=stdin@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:24] What boot errors? [07:24] Be more specific. :) [07:24] SeveredCross: brb, just switching pcs [07:25] Okay. [07:28] SeveredCross: My error is ; MP-BIOS bug 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC [07:28] Launchpad bug 8254 in slang "countrychooser: db_go fails when choosing Arabic as language (dup-of: 8253)" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/8254 [07:28] Launchpad bug 8253 in slang "crash displaying main menu in arabic" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/8253 === ptn107 [n=phil@68.63.160.79] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:28] followed by Kernal panic - not syncing:IO-APIC + timer doesn't work! === eobanb [n=eoban@cpe-76-88-26-197.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:30] Hmm. [07:31] Yeah, sounds like you need noapic...Do you still get the same error with noapic? [07:31] Err, you already answered that, you do. [07:31] Weird. [07:31] It lets me go further, but after a few minutes of what looks like a good load, it goes to pages of errors with no access [07:32] Try noapic nolapic [07:32] I got the same result [07:32] Weird. [07:32] I just added it to the end of the boot list, [07:32] Sounds like the kernel really hates your PC. [07:32] What kind of setup do you have? === \x6e\x65\x72\x64 [n=gaucho@201-66-137-34.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:36] SeveredCross: I have an ASUS M2N4-SLI motherboard with an AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 3800+, I managed to get Fedora 6 running on it, but that was just to play with, my main PC is Kubuntu [07:36] so I wanted to try out the latest version on my test one [07:37] Hmmm. [07:37] Interesting. [07:37] Did you try the 64-bit version? [07:38] Downloading it as we speak [07:38] The only issues I have with that is the lck of drivers and I don't have the skills yet to amend them [07:38] lack of drivers rather [07:38] Hmm. [07:38] Yeah. [07:39] What drivers do you need that aren't available? [07:39] Wifes not forgiven me for updating her to win xp 64 bit lol [07:40] LOL, yeah, 64bit drivers for XP are far and few between. [07:41] I used to use VMWare on Windows which used a wireless connection but I could fool it into using it as an ethernet, as I have not got the hang of using wireless on linux yet, so my first trial into Kubuntu picked up my usb wireless straight away which pleased me no end [07:41] but wireless is my main issue [07:42] Hmm. [07:42] Wireless is much improved since 6.06. [07:43] The biggest improvement was the jump from Edgy to Feisty, with the new NetworkManager. [07:43] to be honest once I got the hang of the manager it was easy [07:43] Yeah, NetworkManager is great. [07:43] and a main reason I moved from windows to ubuntu [07:44] I switched because I got sick of Windows. [07:44] It always bogs down after a few months no matter how clean you keep your system. [07:44] Because it accumulates cruft that you can't clean out lest you risk breaking installers and stuff. === linxeh [n=linx@88-96-202-38.dsl.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:44] I had accumulated almost 5 GB of installer files in Windows--but I can't delete them, otherwise the bloody uninstallers fail. [07:45] Whereas apt and dpkg just know exactly what every piece of software installs and how to remove it. [07:45] I have dipped into linux for a while and the support on the irc channels swung me, some of them can quite overwhealming [07:45] Yeah, #ubuntu can be a beast to follow. [07:47] I can only do it on my PCs though as the wife refuses to change......ah well === Talaman72 [i=kris@66-215-57-61.dhcp.gvrb.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:48] Why's she refuse? [07:48] Microsoft Chick... [07:48] Argh. :-P [07:49] I actual;ly get the MS Action Pack that I use for work and the like so she has all the software available, so is unlikely to change [07:49] Ah, okay. [07:49] though as I said she hates me for moxing to the 64 bit xp as her phone, webcam and ITUNES dont work that well [07:50] Yeah, iTunes is busted. [07:50] Dumdedum.. === SeveredCross twiddles his thumbs while tetex gets installed. [07:50] All the music she buys I can't even burn as it doesnt recognise her cdrom......had to install it on another pc just to get the stuff off! === Lynx- [n=andrey@85.234.187.165] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:51] It doesn't recognize the CD drive? WTH?? [07:52] YEAH THERE ARE LOTS OF ISSUES oops with it [07:52] if I could be bothered I would change it..... [07:55] SeveredCross: Many thanks for the help, I will try the 64 bit to see if it makes a difference after tea. I will mention it if I am sucessful....cheers [07:58] guys for non gutsy topics please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic === akos [n=akos@86.123.180.80] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Lynx-- [n=andrey@85.234.187.165] has joined #ubuntu+1 === vicox [n=vicox@p54985C85.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #ubuntu+1 === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-7-140.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === soothsayer [n=user@bas16-montreal02-1242356765.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu+1 === soothsayer [n=user@bas16-montreal02-1242356765.dsl.bell.ca] has left #ubuntu+1 ["ERC] === XVampireX [n=serge@unaffiliated/xvampirex] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:34] Hi [08:34] Can anyone please help me? xorg says that nvidia.ko doesn't exist when I do startx ... === wfarr [n=wfarr@adsl-61-114-239.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:34] is there much work going on with dmraid and initramfs, or was most if resolved for feisty? [08:35] and I have linux-restricted-modules for the correct kernel and I have nvidia-kernel-common but I don't see one for the kernel I'm using (Or I'm just not aware of the one) [08:36] Please? [08:36] Or do I really need to just use feisty, cause even with feisty.... the nvidia-glx-new package is broken (lacking libwfb) === poningru [n=poningru@ip72-209-65-174.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:38] And I thought the new xorg was supposed to fix this problem, too... [08:38] No one is available here to help me? === Frost^ [n=sweiss@89-139-179-146.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:41] ???????????????????????????????????? [08:41] !help [08:41] I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots [08:42] !nvidia [08:42] To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [08:42] meh, brb === pvandewyngaerde [n=pvandewy@158.22-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === XVampire1 [n=serge@82.166.24.88] has joined #ubuntu+1 === XVampireX [n=serge@unaffiliated/xvampirex] has joined #ubuntu+1 === masterloki [n=mloki@75.80.8.88] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:46] cannot open /lib/modules/2.6.22-8-generic/volatile/nvidia.ko [08:48] XVampireX: you ever install the drivers from nvidia.com? [08:48] XVampireX: i see that happens alot when the user doesnt get rid of all traces of the upstream drivers [08:49] Yes I did [08:49] what do I do then? [08:50] XVampireX: use the nvidia script that you use to install it and uninstall it (there should be a flag to pass for that === gnomefreak doesnt remember exactly how to do it [08:50] Yeah but envy doesn't want to help me with gutsy [08:51] XVampireX: envy == bad [08:51] I know [08:51] so what do I do then? :P === mloki_ [n=mloki@75.80.8.88] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:51] if you used envy to install it good luck. iirc there is no uninstall options with envy [08:51] There is [08:51] uninstall the drivers and l-r-m that it builds [08:51] just that it doesn't work on gutsy anymore [08:51] l-r-m? [08:52] XVampireX: all it does it removes envy not ht econfig === mloki_ [n=mloki@75.80.8.88] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:52] l-r-m linux-restricted-modules [08:52] XVampireX: upstream package makes its own l-r-m and that is where you are running into issues [08:53] XVampireX: nvidia.....run or sh script can uninstall everything that the script installs but envy cant (makes it worse than the upstream drivers) [08:54] I removed all linux-restricted-modules [08:55] should I remove all nvidia stuff from those places too, manually? [08:58] serge@serge-desktop:/usr/lib$ locate 100.14.12 [08:58] /var/cache/modass/_usr_src_nvidia-kernel-2.6.20-16-generic_100.14.12+2.6.20-16.29_i386.deb.txt [08:58] /var/cache/modass/_usr_src_nvidia-kernel-2.6.22-8-generic_100.14.12+2.6.22-8.18_i386.deb.txt [08:58] /usr/src/nvidia-kernel-2.6.20-16-generic_100.14.12+2.6.20-16.29_i386.deb [08:58] /usr/src/nvidia-kernel-2.6.22-8-generic_100.14.12+2.6.22-8.18_i386.deb [08:59] See, that's all I have of the version I installed [08:59] get rid of it all and start over and hope all is ok === compengi back [08:59] you can leave the nvidia-kernel i think [09:00] XVampireX: there is more you didnt find iirc [09:00] such as? [09:01] XVampireX: with envy its hard to tell. [09:01] I looked in directories too [09:01] if you just used the nvidia script i could look for it but i dont know exactly what envy does when it installs it other than builds the restricted-modules for your running kenrel [09:02] what nvidia script? [09:02] than try removing those [09:02] XVampireX: envy uses the script you get from nvidia.com to install the packages [09:02] s/packages/drivers [09:03] XVampireX: but envy's config is not the same (how it builds than im not sure) why they didnt make a remove restricted-modules flag is beyond me [09:03] They... hehe :P [09:04] He's supposed to be here somewhere actually === joumetal [n=joumetal@laku34.adsl.netsonic.fi] has joined #ubuntu+1 === johnnybuoy [n=johnny@unaffiliated/johnnybuoy] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:09] runtime Qt4.3 stuff is also buggy, the systray icon has some problems... [09:13] gnomefreak: Package nvidia-kernel-2.6.22-8-generic has no available version, but exists in the database === bur[n] e1 [n=burner@c-71-56-237-100.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bur[n] e1 is now known as burner === zrg [n=andrey@85.234.187.157] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:17] By the way, m-a ignores nvidia-new-kernel-source .... [09:18] m-a? [09:18] module assistant [09:21] So what do I do now? [09:21] that linux-kernel thing doesn't want to install for some reason [09:21] XVampireX: you should beable to remove everything nvidia related and install nvidia-glx(-new)(legacy) and make sure if restricted-manager gets removed install it again [09:21] XVampireX: it wont install because its already there just not the one from ubuntu [09:21] ah okye [09:21] okey^ [09:22] So what's the ubuntu version? [09:23] dpkg -l nvidia should list everything, and have at it but normally its a pain to get rid of the n-r-m package thats why nvidia added an --uninstall flag [09:23] serge@serge-desktop:~$ dpkg -l nvidia [09:23] No packages found matching nvidia. === burner [n=burner@c-71-56-237-100.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [09:24] nvidia-kernel-common maybe? [09:24] I saw that it's a very old version... [09:24] XVampireX: damn thats because its not installed as a package [09:24] maybe find or locate |less [09:25] /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia-kernel-2.6.22-8-generic.postrm [09:25] /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia-kernel-2.6.20-16-generic.list === gnomefreak wonders if forcing linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-8-generic would work (yes i know force is bad and im not suggesting you do it) [09:25] I installed it... [09:25] I mean I installed linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-8-generic [09:26] XVampireX: and you are getting that error? [09:26] yes [09:26] XVampireX: try removing --purgeing it === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-102.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:26] I tried it several times... === gnomefreak wants to say i fixed it that way once but dont hold me to that [09:27] XVampireX: due you have envy source? [09:27] Not really === chrisbudden14 [n=chrisbud@dsl-dp-81-140-108-130.in-addr.broadbandscope.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:27] do they give you source freely? === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-58-76.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:28] who's they? [09:28] I know this guy made it: http://albertomilone.com [09:28] the envy people [09:28] hmmm i think i know him atleeast that name brb [09:28] only one === compengi [n=compengi@85.112.67.128] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:30] hmm, brb, myself [09:30] NOTE: Envy does NOT REMOVE your RESTRICTED MODULES ANY MORE. [09:30] thats bad [09:31] err I thought it did the DISABLED_MODULES="nv" thing [09:31] i havent found source yet === johnnybuoy_ [n=johnny@dra13-2-82-237-247-14.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:33] gnomefreak, as in source code? [09:33] it's python iirc [09:33] yes === johnnybuoy_ is now known as johnnybuoy [09:33] might not have to [09:33] i found it but may not need to look at it :) === BHSPitMonkey_ is now known as BHSPitMonkey === XVampireX [n=serge@unaffiliated/xvampirex] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:35] https://bugs.launchpad.net/envy/+bug/119568 [09:35] Launchpad bug 119568 in envy "envy collides with nvidia-new-kernel-source " [Undecided,New] [09:35] I got it to work :P [09:35] XVampireX: theres a bug on the exact issue [09:36] please comment on bug on how you got it to work ill ping him monday if i still have a pc up and running and ask him to find a way to flag --uninstall back to it [09:37] Just freaked out and it worked, really... :) Nah, Well, I don't really know how I got it to work but I did reinstall nvidia stuff several times [09:38] ok out for a while still packaing [09:38] packing === nysosym [n=nysosym@p54B7BE2F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:44] hi there [09:44] has anyone tested one of the last gutsy dailies on a macbook ? === eobanb [n=eoban@cpe-76-88-26-197.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === xtknight [n=xtknight@c-68-43-120-159.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-15-9.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Zdra [n=zdra@75.204-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Zdra_ [n=zdra@75.204-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Ilokaasu [n=matti@dsl-aur-ff27c000-33.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:56] http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/7713/qt44bughr4.png [09:56] notice the star (It's psi) I compiled with Qt4.3 in gutsy === Ronald [n=Ronald@ip51-232-58-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === burner_ [n=burner@c-71-56-237-100.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:58] anyone else super super thankful for evolution email that kicks major arse as of 2.11.5 :) [09:58] it is sooooooo much faster when used with exchange servers now === thully [n=thully@dpc6746164142.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === johnnybuoy [n=johnny@unaffiliated/johnnybuoy] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:05] SeveredCross: Just to get back to you, the 64 bit AMD iso worked perfectly! [10:06] SeveredCross: and it picked up my wireless perfectly === BHSPitMonkey [n=stephen@adsl-65-69-154-198.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:12] nice Karti :) [10:12] Is anybody else here using compiz (-fusion) ? [10:13] I've found the official version to be very slow, for some reason. [10:13] I want to run gutsy on my machine (actually, already am) but want to take a few precautions to make it easier to recover from breakage... What would be suggested? I thought of using LVM snapshots, but I'm unsure how to get started with that... === mo0osah [n=mo0osah@cpe-70-116-21-77.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:15] thully virtual machine? its not quite the same as a physical install, but its one option [10:15] is gutsy using compiz fusion yet? [10:15] if its for testing, then you could just keep the /home partition on another physical partition than / and do backups regularly [10:16] did you read that snapshots_backup link ? :) === snax [n=snax@c-24-17-210-137.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:16] sn0: I'd prefer testing on the bare metal - there's some hardware-specific issues I'd like to work on - and I'd like to use Compiz Fusion... [10:16] thully indeed :) [10:19] It's for testing, but I'd probably use it 80% of the time or so... I may actually want to help fix some of these bugs and maybe even do MOTU down the road... [10:20] yes - I did - I'd just prefer not to have to make the actual backup and just use the snapshots as-is (make one, and revert to it with a few commands) [10:20] thully have you heard of 'unionfs' before? [10:20] that's what is used on the live CD... === nysosym [n=nysosym@p54B7BE2F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:20] yep, its another option you could use [10:21] personally i just back up the list of installed packages with dpkg and my configs, everything else backed up on another partition [10:21] haven't really tried snapshots yet [10:21] lvm does sound like the thing you require :) [10:22] I just have to figure out how to use it - I know you can create a snapshot and boot it, but not how to directly revert the main partition to the snapshot [10:23] howtoforge have a 'guide' on setting it up and so on [10:23] I will search - I'm actually messing around with LVM to find the right way of doing this... [10:23] includes how to restore from a backup (from lvm beginner guide), it does mention debian but it could be used for gutsy too [10:23] http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_lvm_snapshots [10:24] I even thought of doing a chroot from feisty, but gutsy supports my hardware (a MacBook) much better than Feisty === zaggynl [n=zaggynl@dsl-083-247-110-137.solcon.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:25] works better than Windows (even with Apple's Boot Camp drivers) and second only to Mac OS X === thully [n=thully@dpc6746164142.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === akos [n=akos@86.123.188.101] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:28] s there a way to do something like this: copy the installation ISO to an empty hdd partition, boot from it and install? i'd do the usb-install, but i don't have enought space on it to copy the whole cd, and i don't have internet during install due to the fact that i need the atl1 drivers... [10:28] One big reason for me using Linux more than Windows: [10:28] DanaG, 10x more responsive? [10:29] The font rendering in Windows makes my eyes become bloodshot after a short time. [10:29] Is there a way to do something like this: copy the installation ISO to an empty hdd partition, boot from it and install? i'd do the usb-install, but i don't have enought space on it to copy the whole cd, and i don't have internet during install due to the fact that i need the atl1 drivers... [10:29] In Linux, it takes a reeeeeeeeeeally long time for that to happen -- in other words, the font rendering is much better. [10:29] akos: The alternate CD may let you use the ISO as the "Detect and mount CD" [10:30] but I don't remember how. [10:30] DanaG, huh? [10:30] oh.. :| [10:31] akos yes [10:31] search the ubuntu wiki/forums for hd install [10:31] ok [10:34] sn0, i cant find it... i tried searching hd install and ubuntu hdd install, but nothing relevant [10:36] akos something like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromHardDriveWithFloppies (uses floppies to start) === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@208.69.214.65] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === otix [n=otis@dsl081-234-005.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Ex-Chat"] === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Nicke [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Kill_X [i=kill_x@p54A15F32.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === XVampireX [n=serge@unaffiliated/xvampirex] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:49] my other 3 cpu's disappeared :P === XVampireX lols === Pumpernickle [n=Pumperni@about/essy/bacon/PuMpErNiCkLe] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === thully [n=thully@dpc6746164142.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:52] Eeek, I found an instantly reproducible X crash: [10:52] Have caca-utils installed, and run CACA_DRIVER=gl cacafire -- and watch X die At least with NVIDIA, that is. === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === vinny [n=vinny@203-109-245-124.static.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:04] so, anyone else had their system rendered basicly usless from the latest update [11:05] no sound, oss alsa, both broken. window manager is b [11:05] borked, have to use metacity [11:06] something in there is wrong anyway :) [11:06] wireless network still works tho! [11:06] heheheh === Pumpernickel [n=Pumperni@about/essy/bacon/PuMpErNiCkLe] has joined #ubuntu+1 === xarus [i=xardas@xardas.pl] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:09] did any of you experience some strange problems with compiz-fusion since last dist-upgrade @ gutsy? [11:09] segmentation faults ? [11:09] unable to start? [driver: nvidia-glx] [11:10] beryl works fine === Pumperni1kle [n=Pumperni@CPE0016b6c9fba4-CM0012c9a9a6dc.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === XVampireX [n=serge@unaffiliated/xvampirex] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:19] compiz fusion is completely butchered for me [11:19] as is sound [11:20] trying to fix it all now === blenderhead001 [n=blenderh@adsl-068-209-133-121.sip.jax.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:20] ;) [11:22] xarus you t [11:22] rying to [11:22] use emerald with compiz fusion [11:22] yes [11:22] sorry it appears my keymap has been buggered up too [11:22] and it worked till yesterday [11:22] :$ [11:23] i was jsut installing jack audio routing [11:23] and i triggered an update [11:23] and let it run [11:23] and poof [11:23] byebye audio, byebye emerald [11:23] :( === thully [n=thully@dpc6746164142.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:23] gutsy - deveoper's release [11:23] new kermelversion is prolly part of the issue [11:23] i think i saw a kernelupgrade in there [11:23] you should've been expecting that [11:24] well yes but theres hardly any point in having a discussion chanel if someones going to say that everytime anyone encounters a problem [11:25] A bunch of my panel applets have broken, somehow. [11:25] i mean hey, look at me, im in ubuntuplus1 "oh well its a dev release, of coiurse its broken" [11:25] .... [11:25] yeah, you have a point here [11:25] They work, until when I have to kill X for various reasons. [11:25] does anyone know how to get the Cube working on Compiz Fusion in Gutsy? [11:26] yes [11:26] ill tell you They work, until when I have to kill X for various reasons. [11:26] thully: enable 'cube' plugin? [11:26] when i figure out how to get compiz-fusion working again [11:26] and when you figure out that please share with me. [11:26] ] ;-> [11:26] ok looks like fuision basic works [11:26] without emerald [11:26] how do you do that? it's not enabled by default... [11:26] I've just reverted to the 3v1n0 feisty repo, but I have to forbid newer official versions. [11:27] vinny: let's try it [11:27] /usr/bin/compiz: line 252: 6666 Segmentation fault /usr/bin/compiz.real $COMPIZ_OPTIONS "$@" $COMPIZ_PLUGINS [11:27] hmm [11:28] dana [11:28] you/usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: Plugin 'cube' can't be activated because plugin 'plane' is already providing feature 'largedesktop' [11:28] Initializing scale options...done [11:28] Initializing switcher options...done [11:28] Active Plugin List update [11:29] running latest [11:29] ? [11:29] damm my keymap [11:29] sorry === xarus [i=xardas@xardas.pl] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:30] wb [11:30] re [11:30] im tempted to [11:31] try tervinos feisty [11:31] what's that? [11:31] but i suspect some plugins wont work [11:31] that's a bad idea [11:31] yeah. [11:31] i know :) [11:31] lol [11:31] vinny, uncheck plane? [11:31] in ccsm [11:32] lol i dont have ccsm any more [11:33] *trying gnome-compiz-manager === cypherdelic [n=cypherde@e182027236.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [11:34] *crash [11:34] i think ill just go away and play and come back when i have figured it o what's that? [11:34] ut [11:34] gn8 === obsethryl [n=cball@unaffiliated/obsethryl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Zdra_ [n=zdra@75.204-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu+1 === vinny [n=vinny@203-109-245-124.static.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:50] ok so im sick of things breaking all the time [11:50] if i change my apt-sources to feisty and dist-upgreade [11:50] will it revert me to feisty? [11:52] you don't want to do it - downgrades aren't a supported feature... There isn't a "dist-downgrade" command, and trying to do it manually will result in more breakage than gutsy had in the first place [11:56] I've been going back and forth myself - I need some gutsy features for my MacBook (suspend-to-RAM and better power management, among others) [11:56] yeah [11:56] i to am on a macbook [11:58] I've tried running in a virtual machine (actually VMware Fusion on OS X), but then you don't get the 3D-ness... [11:58] so [11:58] noob question here [11:58] i chacn [11:59] changed my apt-sources to feisty, but a dist-upgrade does nothing [11:59] i want to downgrade from gutsy [11:59] what am i doing wrong? [11:59] i did a apt-get -f update [11:59] that's because you can't downgrade with apt - the only way is back up, format, restore [11:59] oh [11:59] :( [12:00] *goes to download feisty iso [12:00] linux is tempermental enough without with apt - the only way is back [12:00] up, format, restore [12:00] wtf [12:00] i dont understand why it keeps doing that === vinny [n=vinny@203-109-245-124.static.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === arpu [n=arpu@p54BFC72E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:02] hi @all === Dannilion [n=danni@149.254.200.222] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ahuman [n=oem@ool-18b8b7f4.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:03] i have aproblem with gutsy and wlan on my new macbook [12:03] how can i install wlan ? [12:03] OK - you probably need the latest svn release of madwifi [12:04] thully : ok the included driver do not work ? [12:04] yes - it's too old... [12:05] I think even on Gutsy, as I don't know if they're pulling the SVN or the release [12:05] I dunno myself, because I have an older MacBook that works out of the box (it only has the chipset with b/g, and not n) [12:06] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook [12:08] thx thully i give it a try === arpu [n=arpu@p54BFC72E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:18] thully, thx with svn madwifi all works fine [12:18] bye === stdin [i=stdin@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #ubuntu+1 === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu+1 === squire [n=squire@82.153.99.54] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Subhuman [n=jack@host86-143-235-27.range86-143.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === MugginsM [n=jennyj@69.55.232.10] has joined #ubuntu+1 === stdin [i=stdin@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #ubuntu+1 === _4str1 [n=cedric@AStrasbourg-253-1-47-191.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Vorbote [n=vorbote@unaffiliated/vorbote] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:32] /who buckaroobanzai [12:32] /w === Pumpernickel [n=Pumperni@about/essy/bacon/PuMpErNiCkLe] has joined #ubuntu+1