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| nysosym | hi there | 12:16 |
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| nysosym | does gutsy use the madwifi driver from svn out of the box actually? | 12:16 |
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| okaratas | hello | 12:29 |
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| crimsun | pong. I saw your update for flashplugin-nonfree (please remember to update debian/config, too), thanks! | 12:29 |
| crimsun | err, asac ^ | 12:29 |
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| Nafallo | :-) | 12:30 |
| okaratas | hello | 12:30 |
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| Arcer | hi al is there someone? | 01:17 |
| Arcer | *all | 01:17 |
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| geser | !weekend | 01:19 |
| ubotu | It's a weekend. Often on weekends, the paid developers, and a lot of the community, may not be around to answer your question. Please be patient, wait longer than you normally would, or try again during the working week. | 01:19 |
| Arcer | :) | 01:19 |
| Arcer | i work every day also in the weekend | 01:20 |
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| ion_ | I wonder whether it would be feasible to use the graphics card memory as swap space? | 01:26 |
| Nafallo | haha | 01:27 |
| persia | ion_: http://hedera.linuxnews.pl/_news/2002/09/03/_long/1445.html (and many others) | 01:27 |
| Nafallo | :-) | 01:27 |
| ion_ | persia: Thanks :-) | 01:28 |
| minghua | Wow, I thought it's just a crazy idea. | 01:30 |
| ion_ | Well, the video RAM is obviously faster than HDDs. | 01:30 |
| ion_ | And with recent GPUs, theres a *lot* of it. | 01:31 |
| persia | minghua: It's arguably not very useful, as there's only a little VRAM, but with the right priority settings for swap, and limited texture usage, it can certainly improve performance for low-memory situations. | 01:31 |
| minghua | persia: I am not expecting it to be very userful. I just appreciate the hack value. :-) | 01:33 |
| minghua | I'll by more RAM (or a new computer, for that matter) if I really encounter low-memory situations too frequently. | 01:34 |
| ion_ | For instance, i only have 384 MiB of memory in my desktop box, and rather than buying expensive DIMM, ill try to save for a completely new computer. However, my GPU has 128 MiB of memory. I could envision using 64 MiB of that as fast swap space, which would already make a nice difference. | 01:34 |
| persia | ion_: Just don't try for a full immersive 3D environment while you've got the swap on :) | 01:34 |
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| jetole | hey guys, I know this is may not be the right room but developers always know more, I myself am I light weight C guy, and typical #ubuntu room seems full of simple questions and no one who has answered yet, I have two ubuntu feisty x86_64 machines, I am trying to do luks based encryption on my laptop and after many errors + wen searching + trial and error I found that /dev/.static/dev was empty where on my other ubuntu box it had 1962 entries, r | 03:42 |
| jetole | ight now I only need /dev/.static/dev/mapper but as a tmpfs file system I know it will be gone after each reboot, is there a package I need to install or an error I need to file because this has seemed a little difficult to google | 03:42 |
| jetole | also if there is a man page I sure as hell don't know where it is | 03:44 |
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| AggieSawDust | can anyone point me to some good docs on setting up a cross-compiling env in Ubuntu? | 04:51 |
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| Hobbsee | ***anyone who is bored, please fix stuff on http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/gutsy_probs.html - there are various main people around who can sponsor changes *** | 06:20 |
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| jetole_ | hey guys, I hate to ask, but I asked a question earlier that no one responded to, long story short I solved it to the next level but I am a little confused, /dev/.static/dev didn't exist on my computer because basically I have traced it down to mount --move was failing with the "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock" etc error, now I have tried it with several different test directories and I cannot get --move to work howev | 06:33 |
| jetole_ | er I tested it with test directories on another computer, bith x64, both 7.04 and it works fine, does anyone know what cause mount --move to fail or how I may be able to fix it? | 06:33 |
| jetole_ | again, I don't typically ask questions in this room and rarely in any room but #ubuntu seldom seems to have any answers and I seldom seem to have any questions | 06:34 |
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| Hobbsee | hi seb128 | 10:37 |
| seb128 | hey Hobbsee | 10:38 |
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| StevenK | seb128: Back home again? | 10:43 |
| seb128 | StevenK: no, going to GUADEC today, still in London | 10:43 |
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| Hobbsee | seb128: i suppose it's technically the weekend, but do you have a list of highlights for ubuntu, for tribe 3? | 10:51 |
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| seb128 | Hobbsee: "highlights"? you mean what's new since tribe-2? | 10:53 |
| Hobbsee | seb128: yes | 10:54 |
| Hobbsee | seb128: i dont really follow ubuntu that much, you see :) | 10:54 |
| seb128 | GNOME 2.19.5 | 10:54 |
| === Hobbsee has just been asked to go pick up dinner, but will read the scrollbakc | ||
| seb128 | I don't think so much changed this week | 10:55 |
| seb128 | there is the new GNOME | 10:55 |
| seb128 | Hobbsee: enjoy | 10:55 |
| Hobbsee | right | 10:57 |
| Hobbsee | will do :) | 10:57 |
| Hobbsee | new kde packages, too | 10:57 |
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| Hobbsee | seb128: thanks :) | 10:58 |
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| calc | i'm stuck in gatwick, flight delayed 2.5hr :( | 12:04 |
| Hobbsee | calc: oh dear :( | 12:06 |
| Hobbsee | calc: you didnt want to go anywhere, did you? | 12:06 |
| wolfeon | ugh | 12:06 |
| === Hobbsee --> Dr Who | ||
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| calc | Hobbsee: heh, home would be nice | 12:11 |
| calc | by the time i get home i will have been up ~ 19hr | 12:12 |
| calc | on ~ 5hr sleep, not enough for me :\ | 12:12 |
| calc | i wish i knew the flight was delayed before i went to the airport | 12:13 |
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| ion_ | Using video RAM as swap space seems to work fine. :-) | 01:07 |
| persia | ion_: Now launch vegastrike :) | 01:09 |
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| TheMuso | Video ram as swap space? Never thought that could be done. | 01:27 |
| persia | TheMuso: It's been an experimental feature for a few years now, but it requires careful balance, and a good reason (VRAM is typically more expensive than DRAM) | 01:28 |
| TheMuso | Ah. | 01:29 |
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| ion_ | My servers VRAM only gives FFFFFFFF, even if i try to write stuff there. | 01:46 |
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| mjr | bah, there were old, old patches to swap onto a gravis ultrasound in circulation in the mid-90s already, similar stuff :] | 01:52 |
| ion_ | The nice thing is that this worked with the default Ubuntu kernel image+modules. :-) | 01:52 |
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| jbailey | Where is the Ubuntu package policy kept? I remember that I'm supposed to twiddle the maintainer field when uploading a -ubuntu version, but I can't for the life of me remember what I'm supposed to do. | 03:53 |
| Hobbsee | jbailey: w.u.c/DebianMaintainerField? looking | 03:53 |
| jbailey | Is there some sort of a unified policy document like Debian's where I can find all the things that I'm supposed to remember in one place? | 03:55 |
| Hobbsee | jbailey: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebianMaintainerField | 03:58 |
| Hobbsee | but the mailing list post says it more clearly than that, i'll have to find it | 03:58 |
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| Hobbsee | jbailey: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-February/000249.html | 04:06 |
| jbailey | Hobbsee: Thanks! | 04:09 |
| Hobbsee | jbailey: no problem :) | 04:10 |
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| Mithrandir | desrt: you at guadec yet? | 05:26 |
| pitti | hi Mithrandir | 05:26 |
| Mithrandir | hiya Martin | 05:27 |
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| === Hobbsee waves to Mithrandir and pitti | ||
| === pitti hugs Hobbsee | ||
| === Hobbsee hugs pitti | ||
| === simira waves from Birmingham | ||
| pitti | simira: have fun at guadec! | 05:38 |
| Hobbsee | hi simira | 05:39 |
| simira | pitti: I won't attend guadec, actually, just dropping by here as well :) | 05:39 |
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| Hobbsee | i dont suppose anyone around here has moderation rights to ubuntu-devel-announce? | 06:22 |
| Mithrandir | Hobbsee: you're wrong. :-P | 06:23 |
| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: oh good. please approve my post then | 06:23 |
| === Hobbsee was vaguely hoping that she was wrong | ||
| Mithrandir | done | 06:24 |
| Hobbsee | thanks :) | 06:24 |
| === Hobbsee hugs Mithrandir | ||
| Mithrandir | np :-P | 06:25 |
| Mithrandir | s/P/)/ | 06:25 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 06:25 |
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| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-devel:Hobbsee] : Development of Ubuntu (not support, even with gutsy; not application development on Ubuntu) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for dapper/edgy/feisty, #ubuntu+1 for gutsy support | #ubuntu-motu for getting involved in development | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | Main will freeze on Tuesday for Tribe 3 | ||
| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-devel:Hobbsee] : Development of Ubuntu (not support, even with gutsy; not application development on Ubuntu) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for dapper/edgy/feisty, #ubuntu+1 for gutsy support | #ubuntu-motu for getting involved in development | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | Main will freeze on Tuesday for Tribe 3 preparations | ||
| Hobbsee | oh $%&&* | 06:31 |
| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: okay, can you approve the new mail please? | 06:34 |
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| === Hobbsee notes that writing important mailing list posts at 2.30am isnt the smartest idea in the world! | ||
| Mithrandir | Hobbsee: *cough*. :-P Will do | 06:38 |
| Mithrandir | would you care to strip out the bits you're not correcting there? | 06:38 |
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| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: was wondering about that. figured people would want to read the entire mail in one hit. *shrugs | 06:41 |
| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: and :P back to you. | 06:41 |
| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: not sure on mailing list protocol there - i just went on the basis that i'd find it helpful to have the entire mail in one place, so that people could use it for reference | 06:42 |
| Hobbsee | er, *and* so that.... | 06:42 |
| Hobbsee | ze brain is gone. who stole my brain! | 06:43 |
| === Mithrandir munches on Hobbsee's brain | ||
| === Hobbsee goes on a hunt for the brainstealer. | ||
| Hobbsee | YOU!!!! | 06:43 |
| === Hobbsee pokes Mithrandir | ||
| Mithrandir | I'm innocent! | 06:43 |
| Hobbsee | no you're not. | 06:43 |
| Mithrandir | I found it lying about, all by itself | 06:43 |
| Hobbsee | why dont i beleive you? | 06:43 |
| Hobbsee | sure sure... | 06:43 |
| Mithrandir | people have traditionally done otherwise, but *shrug*; since you want it that way. :-P | 06:44 |
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| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: next time i'll get the link right, first time :P | 06:45 |
| Mithrandir | Hobbsee: sure, no worries. | 06:46 |
| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: thankyou again. i hope to find no more errors in them :) | 06:46 |
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| kylem | is dh_iconcache/dh_icons still broken? | 07:10 |
| ScottK | It's supposed to be fixed. | 07:24 |
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| ion_ | Why was dh_iconcache replaced with dh_icons? | 07:30 |
| tritium | The recent upgrade on flashplugin-nonfree (9.0.48.0.0ubuntu1~7.04.0) actually _removed_ flash support for me, as an md5sum mismatch occurred, the plugin did not install. | 07:35 |
| ScottK | tritium: Known issue that's being worked. | 07:36 |
| tritium | ScottK: okay, thanks | 07:38 |
| tritium | Didn't see indication on that on Launchpad, but good. | 07:38 |
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| gnomefreak | tritium: i have it fixed | 07:47 |
| gnomefreak | tritium: should be in feisty soon | 07:48 |
| gnomefreak | i hope | 07:48 |
| gnomefreak | tritium: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/125986 | 07:49 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 125986 in firefox "No flash after update of flashplugin-nonfree" [Undecided,In progress] | 07:49 |
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| aquo | hi | 08:09 |
| aquo | i use feisty and have a question | 08:10 |
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| aquo | my syslogd has a pid of over 4000 | 08:10 |
| aquo | i am just asking myself if everthing is right with the boot process of my machine, or if any of the inital scripts eats my pids | 08:11 |
| mjg59 | A lot of processes get run in the initramfs | 08:14 |
| aquo | more than 3000? i think kernel reserves pid under 1000, but and then they go up step by step ... | 08:18 |
| mjg59 | Why's it a problem? | 08:19 |
| tritium | nice, gnomefreak ;) | 08:20 |
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| gnomefreak | tritium: :) | 08:20 |
| aquo | mjg59: it is no problem, i'm just analyzing the bootup process | 08:35 |
| aquo | mjg59: i am curious which process are getting started | 08:35 |
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| ijuz__ | there is some tool that can produce graphs of the boot process and shows what process runs when | 08:38 |
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| aquo | ijuz__: i know, i am consultant for embedded linux and and used that for performance analysis | 08:44 |
| aquo | ijuz__: it is bootchart | 08:44 |
| ijuz__ | good | 08:45 |
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