[02:33] <j1mc> hi all... in the about-ubuntu section, should that remain unmodified for all versions of ubuntu?
[02:34] <j1mc> e.g., should it not say "kubuntu" for kubuntu, and just use ubuntu instead.
[02:35] <j1mc> nnonix: what's up w/ your connectoin?
[02:35] <j1mc> s/connectoin/connection
[02:35] <j1mc> ok, lurkers... :)  pls get back to me at your leisure.  :)
[02:42] <Liz> its been like that since the day before yesterday
[02:42] <Liz> and whats it say in the kubuntu about ubuntu section?
[02:46] <j1mc> thanks, Liz.  Kubuntu is kubuntu-specific.  I'll proceed with making ours specific to Xubuntu.
[02:50] <Liz> to anyone, is there an option to switch between desktop managers now? ie. if i install xubuntu, is there an option to switch between xubuntu and gnome?
[02:50] <j1mc> Liz, yes, you'd just select an xfce session when logging in at gdm.
[02:51] <j1mc> if you install the xubuntu-desktop metapackage on top of your ubuntu installation, you'd have both sets of applications, though.  (e.g., both gedit and mousepad, two basic text editors)
[02:51] <Liz> cool. installing now then
[02:52] <Liz> im not fussed with that
[02:52] <j1mc> :)
[02:52] <Liz> i use gedit the most anyway
[02:52] <Liz> ive never used mousepad, but would be nice to have a play with that one too
[02:58] <Liz> restart of x
[03:01] <Liz> ooh..pretty
[03:02] <j1mc> i like xfce, too.  it is a bit more lightweight than kde or gnome
[03:02] <j1mc> a bit less functionality, though
[03:04] <Liz> its just a tad cleaner i guess to look at
[03:05] <Liz> but everything can be customized normally
[03:05] <Liz> cant it?
[03:05] <Liz> ive never used xcfe before
[03:05] <j1mc> customized normally?
[03:05] <j1mc> it is freedesktop.org compliant, if that's what you mean.
[03:07] <Liz> i meant customized, normally. its not too bad. i think ill put kde on my sons machine.
[03:08] <Liz> does enlightment work well on ubuntu?
[03:16] <Liz> takes fiddling,b ut can work
[03:19] <Liz> i see what you mean about functionality
[03:20] <Liz> ok brb
[11:43] <mdke> nnonix: can you quit the channel until your connection is fixed please?
[10:46] <mdke> mpt: interesting, I'd like to hear more about your distributed version control idea. would it be possible for us to maintain a tree with Ubuntu's changes and keep merging any Gnome upstream changes that weren't incompatible with that?
[10:50] <mdke> mpt: if so we could at least try an import of the Gnome docs to bzr and see if it works
[10:51] <jjesse> would we then switch to bzr from svn?
[10:52] <mdke> jjesse: if we were going to try using a distributed version control system for a Gnome branch, it would make sense to use bzr for that branch, certainly
[10:52] <mdke> switching the rest of the repo to bzr is a separate question, I think
[10:52] <jjesse> cause i would love to move towards bzr in the ubuntu-docs section of things
[10:52] <mdke> yes, I know you would
[10:53] <mdke> but that's just cause of your preference for remembering your ssh password over your svn password
[10:53] <mdke> :)
[10:53] <jjesse> :)
[10:53] <jjesse> ok you caught me
[10:54] <jjesse> acutally i'm enjoying bzr a lot
[10:54] <mdke> if we move, we should move for the right reasons
[10:54] <mdke> when we arrange the next meeting, we'll talk about it. Matthew Revell is going to come along with one of his bzr cronies to help us discuss it
[10:54] <jjesse> oh cool, i'll have to make arragnements to come
[10:54] <jjesse> i'm defintely interested
[10:56] <jjesse> my biggest question is what other ubuntu teams/projects use svn
[10:56] <mdke> how do you mean?
[10:57] <jjesse> are we the only project that doesn't use bzr to manage code/packages to upload into ubuntu?
[10:59] <mdke> I don't really know what you are getting at
[10:59] <jjesse> let me rephrase it: it seems like most packages that are uploaded into ubuntu are managed through bzr is that a correct thought or am i wrong?
[10:59] <jjesse> or tottaly thinking wrong?
[11:00] <mdke> some are. Most aren't, afaik
[11:00] <mdke> but I think there are plans to have the whole archive managed in bzr, I don't know much about it
[11:04] <jjesse> i know there is talk to upload kde into bzr into launchpad or something like that