[02:01] lamont: ping? [02:02] lamont: Now that we're blocked on Carlos ack'ing the patch, tausq commiting gdb patch, benc/amit uploading a new kernel, the world answering how to deal with missing kernel headers, the result of which might be somewhat easily debugging of gij, do you have any other tasks that I should be hacking on? =) [02:02] Otherwise I might spend the evening playing with 64 bit user space. [03:01] well, we could put together a slightly tweaked 8.16 tree with our patch in it, and maybe call it 8.16hppa1 :-) [03:02] that way we could have SMP support before monday === lamont also notes that "next week" is not very specific. [03:04] gmp is also holding up some stuff [03:04] and then there's perl [03:43] lamont: That might do. [03:43] Actually, do you mind playing with the kernel and seeing if a known configuration will boot? [03:43] I don't know if the non-bootingness of it is code or config. [03:44] I can take a look at perl this WE, though. [04:04] non-bootingness? [04:05] my evening involves finishing the reorg of my office, before mitzi gets back home and wants to reclaim her kitchen (currently my overflow area for organizing...) [04:06] and then there are other honey-do items [04:32] devel/ecj_3.3~M7-2: Dep-Wait-Removed by buildd-hppa+bld-4 [optional:uncompiled] [04:32] why does it hate me? [04:33] amusingly, ecj is not in PaS.. how did it get removed, I wonder... === lamont shrugs [04:34] lamont: You reproduced the build failure with perl, yes? [04:35] using dpkg-buildpackage -B ? [04:35] well, it builds just fine on hppa [04:35] it's everywhere else that's broken [04:35] 'k. [04:35] It's working its way through the testsuite on my ppc box. [04:35] OTOH, it fails to build on a feisty kernel on my i386, with a completely diff failure than the buildds [04:36] thread tests fail on the feisty i386 kernel, at least for me. [04:37] I'm disinclined to annoy people by having the buildds retry on all 5 architectures... making perl uninstallable would tend to annoy people. I know it annoys me.. :-( [04:37] Hey, do you have a Debian box handy? [04:37] Can you try building it there? [04:37] checking if krita should be compiled... no [04:37] ... [04:37] dh_install -pkrita [04:37] cp: cannot stat `./debian/tmp/usr/bin/krita': No such file or directory [04:37] go koffice!!! [04:37] I'm curious if it will fail now that they're on a current glibc. [04:37] I have a debian chroot... [04:38] Should be close enough. [04:38] Debian boxes don't run Debian kernels anyway. [04:38] lol [04:39] for the moment, I want to pause and finish moving /home to its new, uh, home. [04:39] Sure, no worries. [04:39] I have a perl build in one window and abinutils build in the other. =) [04:39] Tomorrow I'll probably spend the day studying, and hack in the evening. [04:40] But I'm hoping we can magic together enough answers for getting gdb to work. [04:40] I wonder if the DC x86 box would be a good one to test-build on [04:40] working GDB would rock [04:40] do you have a gdb with the patch, and does that work? [04:40] or is the jury still out? [04:41] It works for tausq. [04:41] It's unbuildable on Ubuntu because we don't export the kernel header needed for gdb. [04:41] oh. right. sigh [04:41] Which is to say, upstream doesn't either. [04:41] So I started a thread on the list for solving that. [04:41] "the list"? [04:41] parisc-linux [04:41] ah, ok === lamont should really re-subscribe to that [04:41] Oh, also, mjw and doko helped find a gij hacker who will help us. [04:42] But he's going to need gdb anyway. [04:42] ROCK! [04:42] anyway, about a cubic meter of crap to sort through so I can move things out of the kitchen before my wife gets home and kills me. [04:42] laggy, but still here [04:45] Death by mitzi sounds probably spectacular. [04:46] irish redhead. [04:46] very spectacular [04:47] oh. uic3 glibc corruption-detected thing would be useful for you to figure out/fix too. [04:49] I can reproduce the build failure for perl./ [04:50] tulip_2.0.6-5_20070713-1305:*** glibc detected *** /usr/bin/uic3: free(): invalid pointer: 0x00124098 *** [04:51] gdb it, see what is being freed. [04:51] If it's not threaded, gdb ought to work. [04:51] ah, ok [04:51] I've been being distracted by AT [04:52] Automated Tests? [04:52] Or your modem singing away to you? [04:53] Trying obvious solution to perl build failure. [04:53] SHELL = /bin/bash =) [05:51] assigned taskes === jbailey [n=jbailey@modemcable169.10-56-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-ports [06:28] wow. floor === lamont disappears to really do the whole home-switching thing === jbailey [n=jbailey@modemcable169.10-56-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-ports [02:16] lamont: I've confirmed that the perl problem is a dash/bash thing. [02:16] I'm guessing your chroot still has /bin/sh -> /bin/bash === shinmen [n=alvaro@200.122.166.130] has joined #ubuntu-ports [03:00] shinmen: Heya [03:12] lamont: Looks like bingo! Trying. [03:43] jbailey: updating the hppa chroots to use dash instead of bash. thanks [03:44] Just checking to make sure these lintian warnings aren't my fault and then I'll upload perl to gutsy. [03:48] It's not, but I built it -B, feh. Rebuilding to make sure I can do an install test. [04:06] jbailey: Hey. [04:11] lamont: I keep having this vague thought that the compiler should be written in something interpreter but hotspot optimised. [04:11] Java's the logical choice for existing technology, but LISP or something could do as well once Parrot is real. [04:12] And then we could have a massive distributed.net farm for all of our compilation. [04:24] lamont: putting perl 5.8.8-7ubuntu2 now. Please build it when you see it, kthxbye [04:24] I should probably study for the rest of the day. I'll be back when my brain can't handle more Unified Process. [06:52] lamont: Bah, your buildd is being lazy =) [06:52] But it's built succesfully on i386, amd64 and ppc now. =) [08:23] jbailey: rock [08:24] fwiw, cron.hourly actually runs hourly now on hppa... [08:24] perl is building as of 30 min ago === lamont switched root filesystems on his desktop. oh the pain [08:24] Lovely. [08:25] perl-modules has hit the archive. [08:25] After that are we debootstrappable? [08:25] and gutsy-stage0 archive, too. [08:26] I expect so [08:26] gonna have to reboot again... [08:26] randomly overwriting /etc/group with the "right" file is kinda fraught with pain [08:32] this is a fun experiment... apt-get remove --purge hal dbus-1; apt-get install ubuntu-desktop [08:32] hope it works. [08:42] how do I tell the system to rescan for disks? [08:42] "reboot" seems kinda invasive. [08:43] It should do it automatically. [08:43] Assuming it's a pluggable bus. [08:43] that was what I was afraid of [08:43] It should have sent an event. [08:43] SATA [08:43] Right. [08:43] Sata should send an event. [08:44] mind you, I did screw up everything's permissions [08:46] brb (I hope...) [10:08] lamont: This lag isn't promising... === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-ports === jbailey [n=jbailey@modemcable169.10-56-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-ports