[12:29] <TaJMoX> cellofellow: ubuntu doesnt really have runlevels
[12:30] <TaJMoX> runlevel 1 = normal boot   runlevel 2 = gdm boot
[12:30] <TaJMoX> not normal i mean single user
[12:30] <TaJMoX> !init
[12:30] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[12:30] <ryan__> how can you take back your nick
[12:31] <vidd_laptop>  /msg nickserv ghost [username]  [password] 
[12:32] <ryan__> humm
[12:32] <ryan__> i tried that but it said The nickname [Jester45]  is not being enforced
[12:33] <cellofellow> TaJMoX: I just set up 3 for Multiuser COnsole Login.
[12:34] <cellofellow> TaJMoX: Now I just need the boot option for doing that.
[01:02] <mo0osah> if i use live cd to make ubuntu partition smaller and windows partition bigger would it mess up my boot loader?
[01:05] <vidd_laptop> it shouldnt
[01:21] <vidd> i tried to go to tty6 to startx but it says there is already a server running....
[01:21] <vidd> what am i doing wrong?
[01:29] <vidd> i got it
[01:31] <keb> yay
[01:33] <keb> why is xubuntu released with OSS as default sound interface? i thought ALSA was in the kernel and better quality
[01:38] <keb> hmm ... it seems to have ALSA, just gotta get some dev libs
[02:19] <Pumpernickel> It does have ALSA, and it uses it as default if it's supported.
[02:19] <keb> yeah i must have installed the dev libs for oss first
[02:20] <Pumpernickel> The -dev libs are used for development.  That's about it.
[02:20] <keb> yep
[02:21] <Pumpernickel> More likely, you changed some configuration option.
[02:21] <keb> i was compiling mplayer and it said ALSA support was not there
[02:22] <Pumpernickel> There you go.  Compiling with alsa support is different from using a pre-compiled, packaged, and shipped alsa.
[02:24] <keb> ok
[04:27] <keb> whatis the name of that ssh-agent replacement ?
[04:31] <keb> ah found it.  seahorse wasnt installed this time, but gnome-keyring was
[04:31] <keb> which one is better in xubuntu?
[04:48] <nikolaj_sd> hi, does anyone know how to disable the system beep on the login in feisty fawn?
[05:42] <Jamesinator> How can I edit the applications menu? When I click "Edit Menu" there's just a "system" option where the menus should be. I've just switched over from Gnome to Xfce.
[05:43] <Pumpernickel> Parts of the menu are autogenerated from *.desktop files.
[05:43] <Jamesinator> How can I edit it, then?
[05:43] <Pumpernickel> Edit the .desktop files.
[05:44] <Jamesinator> Why bother having an "Edit Menu" button if it isn't even usable. I just spent the last half hour looking through .desktop files and googling fixes but nothing has worked. Why should XFCE force me to manually find and edit these if it knows where they are already as it's building the menu from them?
[05:45] <gladier> hi guys, have an issue with ndiswrapper and a usb stick - ndiswrapper recognizes the device - but when i goto do an iwconfig/ifconfig the terminal freezes
[05:46] <Pumpernickel> Does it completely freeze, or is it just waiting for output from ifconfig that never arrives?
[05:47] <gladier> waits for an output that never arrives - ive checked the syslog and the kernel hasnt crashed
[05:48] <Pumpernickel> What device is it?  (Brand, model, etc.)
[05:51] <gladier> its a rebadged broadbom device - same chip as the really common linksys adaptor. this one is an asus wl-169gE
[05:54] <Pumpernickel> hm
[05:55] <gladier> i thought it was interesting
[05:55] <gladier> i have had it set up before - i just cant figure out why it isnt now
[05:57] <gladier> if i use any different drivers the kernel does crash
[06:01] <Pumpernickel> The ndiswrapper site has some very specific instructions for it, but that's about all I can find.
[06:01] <Pumpernickel> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/index.php?/component/option,com_openwiki/Itemid,33/id,list_a/
[06:01] <gladier> yep .. written by me lol
[06:02] <Pumpernickel> Well, then - you're way ahead of me, here.
[06:03] <gladier> actually .. i just thought - that was on edgy - i wonder what theyve changed with feisty
[06:51] <cellofellow> I have a problem.
[06:52] <gladier> and we have a solution - but we need to know the problem
[06:52] <cellofellow> ok
[06:52] <cellofellow> I have this video card, and another,
[06:52] <cellofellow> 00:0d.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. 86c325 [ViRGE]  (rev 06) (prog-if 00 [VGA] ) Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 11 Memory at f0000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]  [size=64M]  [virtual]  Expansion ROM at 20020000 [disabled]  [size=64K] 
[06:52] <cellofellow> It doesn't run.
[06:52] <gladier> what do you mean by it doesnt run??
[06:53] <cellofellow> just a sec
[06:53] <cellofellow> here is the xorg.conf section
[06:53] <cellofellow> Section "Device" Identifier      "Virge" Driver          "s3virge" BusID           "PCI:00:0d.0" Option          "UseFBDev"              "true"
[06:53] <cellofellow> EndSection
[06:53] <cellofellow> oops
[06:53] <cellofellow> one more second, I'll get the error message.
[06:54] <gladier> im assuming that where each of those gaps are is supposed to be a new line?
[06:54] <cimon> hi all
[06:54] <cellofellow> (WW) S3VIRGE: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:13:0) found
[06:55] <cellofellow> gladier: yes
[06:55] <gladier> okidoke
[06:55] <cellofellow> that is error message from X. The video card just dies.
[06:55] <gladier> hold on .. you have two video cards?
[06:56] <cellofellow> I have an AGP TNT2 and this thing I just put in. I'm trying Xinerama.
[06:56] <gladier> so you currently have one or two video cards in the machine
[06:57] <cellofellow> two
[06:58] <cellofellow> It did the same thing with the VGA driver. (WW) VGA: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:13:0) found
[06:59] <cellofellow> This error says PCI:0:13:0, but lspci says 00:0d.0
[06:59] <cellofellow> should I use what the X server wants?
[06:59] <cellofellow> that may work
[07:00] <cellofellow> hey, that did work.
[07:00] <cellofellow> thanks for letting me brainstorm on you
[07:01] <gladier> lol
[07:27] <gladier> okidoke pumpernickel - ive got wireless working (no idea what i did .. kept on trying different drivers) and i have security running .. are there any apps for xfce to manage wireless???
[07:28] <gladier> (im a gnome user normally)
[07:28] <Jester45> yea
[07:28] <Jester45> the network manager
[07:28] <Jester45> on the menu -> system
[07:29] <gladier> hmm .. only allows wep????
[07:31] <gladier> what about wpa(1)-psk
[07:31] <Jester45> dont know
[07:31] <Jester45> im an wired kinda guy
[07:32] <gladier> i can do all of this in windows with my eyes shut - linux ... is slightly more complex
[07:33] <Jester45> maybe not more complex but unknown
[07:33] <Jester45> im sure people that have used linux for a while say the same about windows
[07:34] <Jester45> i do it now. when trying to find something i say why should i have to use search program or click around in folders when find / | grep  is so much faster and easier (i guess it a search but way faster than windows)
[07:35] <gladier> locate is faster imho - but requires updating every few days
[07:36] <Jester45> yea.... find is quick
[07:37] <Jester45> acourse knowing where you put your files is better
[07:37] <gladier> either way were off track and playing symantecs
[07:38] <gladier> can you put multiple configurations in your /etc/network/interfaces file??
[07:38] <gladier> or do i need to point the wpa config at a supplicant config file
[07:40] <Jester45> you could ask in #ubuntu and see how you can config it. as there is nobody here
[07:41] <Jester45> wb
[07:41] <Jester45> wb
[07:41] <gladier> more issues?
[07:54] <cellofel1ow> My screen has lines that run up and down the monitor whenever something on it gets updated.
[07:55] <cellofel1ow> Does this mean I should raise or lower the refresh rate?
[08:01] <cellofellow> gladier: sorry got confused with myself
[08:02] <cellofellow> gladier: If my screen flickers a lot with horizonal lines jumping across the screen, what do I do?
[08:54] <cellofellow> are there any known bugs with the s3virge X driver?
[08:55] <cellofellow> !s3virge
[08:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about s3virge - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:55] <maxamillion> cellofellow: not any that are known by me personally :)
[08:56] <cellofellow> With two non-identical S3 Virge video cards, with several monitors, I get wacky scrolling lines all over the screen.
[08:57] <maxamillion> cellofellow: your sync rates might just be off
[08:57] <cellofellow> They start at the top and move to the bottom. They are only there when the screen updates.
[08:57] <maxamillion> cellofellow: does vesa work?
[08:57] <cellofellow> maxamillion: tried the sync rates, but don't know enough about them. Should they be higher or lower?
[08:57] <cellofellow> Vesa, maybe.
[09:05] <maxamillion> cellofellow: lowers is generally safer
[09:05] <maxamillion> lower*
[09:05] <maxamillion> brb
[09:24] <cellofellow> maxamillion: The card won't even attempt to display at above 65.
[09:24] <cellofellow> I set the H and V refresh rates in the Monitor section in xorg.conf to 60-65 60-65
[09:24] <cellofellow> Now everything looks great, till it starts to go nuts.
[09:25] <maxamillion> :(
[09:25] <maxamillion> crt monitor?
[09:25] <cellofellow> Yes
[09:26] <cellofellow> But still, doesn't matter what monitor I use, it's the video ard that does it.
[09:26] <maxamillion> oh
[09:26] <maxamillion> hmmm... not sure my friend
[09:26] <maxamillion> what'd vesa do?
[09:26] <cellofellow> Not sure. I didn't try it thoughoughly.
[09:27] <cellofellow> thoroughly
[09:27] <maxamillion> vesa is generally my failsafe fallback ... if i can't get vesa to work, then i generally consider it a lost cause
[09:28] <cellofellow> things display, it just does something weird.
[09:29] <cellofellow> now, this stuff only shows when there is some detail on the desktop. In the plain X (I've been using that command X to test some of this stuff) it doesn't show. Add a window and it does though.
[09:30] <maxamillion> yeah, its possible there is just an issue with the card and linux ... maybe when it tries to start drawing buffers or blitting images to the screen, the card does weird things
[09:30] <cellofellow> I was just testing stuff, and it only reacts like this to the mouse, and some random unseen event.
[09:31] <cellofellow> now and again
[09:31] <cellofellow> never mind, some activity in a terminal makes it react too.
[09:31] <maxamillion> hrmmm...
[09:31] <cellofellow> brb, trying vesa
[09:35] <cellofellow> All I get is a "EE) VESA(1): No matching modes
[09:35] <cellofellow> " error
[09:36] <maxamillion> :(
[09:36] <maxamillion> yeah, my vote is that either the card isn't supported correctly or that the card is boke
[09:39] <cellofellow> ok
[09:39] <maxamillion> i sorry :(
[09:39] <cellofellow> Wish I could find a better PCI video card. (I've only one AGP slot, like most people.)
[09:40] <maxamillion> what's taking up the agp slot?
[09:40] <cellofellow> My main video card.
[09:41] <cellofellow> This is Xinerama. I've got my TNT2 in there, and I've trying some older PCI cards to do dual-head.
[09:42] <maxamillion> i thought you had to have a dual-head card
[09:42] <cellofellow> nah
[09:42] <Jester45> on windows you do
[09:42] <Jester45> this one guy has 16 moniters on one computer
[09:43] <cellofellow> Section "ServerLayout" Identifier      "Default Layout" Screen          "Screen 1" Screen          "Screen 2"      RightOf "Screen 1" Option          "Xinerama"      "on" InputDevice     "Generic Keyboard" InputDevice     "Configured Mouse" InputDevice     "stylus"        "SendCoreEvents" InputDevice     "cursor"        "SendCoreEvents" InputDevice     "eraser"        "SendCoreEvents"
[09:43] <cellofellow> EndSection
[09:43] <cellofellow> well, you get the idea
[09:43] <cellofellow> oops
[09:44] <cellofellow> Set up two Screens each with a different Device (card) and Monitor, and put them both in the same layout, say what order they are in (that's the RightOf stuff) and turn on Xinerama. Presto.
[09:44] <maxamillion> Jester45: that's wayyyy overkill
[09:44] <cellofellow> It works great.
[09:44] <maxamillion> cellofellow: nice ...
[09:44] <maxamillion> ok, its bed time for me ... be back tomorrow
[09:44] <maxamillion> night all
[09:44] <cellofellow> allrighty
[09:45] <cellofellow> there is one more video card I haven't tried yet.
[09:45] <cellofellow> Jester45: do you think I could hotplug the PCI? Remove and install while the bos is on and running?
[09:45] <cellofellow> Or would that be somewhat suicidal?
[10:17] <Jester45> cello is crasy
[10:17] <Jester45> you cant just unplug things
[10:26] <Jester45> i guess you could
[10:27] <Jester45> like i did with my hard drive
[10:27] <Jester45> and have to buy a new one
[01:45] <hak5fan> Hi I'm running xubuntu 7.04 and I've setup my printer using the cups webinterface everything seems fine, but nothing can be printed.....
[01:58] <hak5fan> Hmmm I deleted my printer and tried setting it up again lpt #1 is not in the device list what's wrong
[03:39] <czarny> hello
[03:39] <czarny> I'd like to share my experience with installing xubuntu on my hd
[03:40] <czarny> 1. I can't seem to be able to pass ide=nodma @ boot and my dvd drive will have like 10 probes of dma before it gives up
[03:40] <czarny> 2. automounter screws the job and mounts devices before installer does which poses problem later on
[03:41] <czarny> 3. xfs is as much unsupported as possible -- I can make a xfs partition, but I'll ge warned like 2-3 times it's bad for me and later on grub install wil fail
[03:41] <czarny> 4. when trying to make an xfs partiion in the naprtitioning tool I can't choose from the dropdown box any location to mount (like /, /boot, /home in case of ext3 in example)
[03:42] <TheSheep> !bugs | czarny
[03:42] <ubotu> czarny: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[03:42] <czarny> I think I'll do that
[03:43] <TheSheep> czarny: thank you :)
[03:45] <TheSheep> !wifi | czarny
[03:45] <ubotu> czarny: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:01] <TheSheep> !easysource
[04:01] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:36] <cellofellow> How do I set up a game controller that's plugged into the onboard game port?
[08:36] <TheSheep> cellofellow: 'set up'?
[08:37] <TheSheep> it's not a trap, you know...
[08:37] <vidd_laptop> lol
[08:37] <TheSheep> cellofellow: what would you like to do with it?
[08:37] <cellofellow> TheSheep: well, I don't know what device it's supposed to be.
[08:38] <cellofellow> Just use it.
[08:38] <TheSheep> cellofellow: good question, I'd look into /dev/input
[08:41] <cellofellow> what is a ts?
[08:41] <cellofellow> In /dev/input I have ts0 and ts1
[08:43] <cellofellow> !gameport
[08:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gameport - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:43] <cellofellow> !game controller
[08:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about game controller - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:43] <vidd_laptop> !midi
[08:43] <ubotu> Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[08:44] <vidd_laptop> =\
[08:44] <cellofellow> It's not a MIDI gameport.
[08:45] <vidd_laptop> what kind of gameport is it?
[08:45] <cellofellow> well, are all gameports MIDI?
[08:46] <cellofellow> It doesn't show as  a MIDI controller in ALSA though.
[08:47] <vidd_laptop> joystick or controlpad?
[08:47] <cellofellow> joystick
[08:48] <vidd_laptop> http://linux.die.net/man/3/joystick_init
[08:48] <cellofellow> now, the port is right next to the PCM audio ports.
[08:50] <cellofellow> that's about a C and SVGAlib library.
[08:53] <vidd_laptop> cellofellow, this might help: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Joystick_Setup
[08:54] <cellofellow> I need a game that uses one.
[08:54] <cellofellow> A flight simulator would be nice.
[08:56] <cellofellow> one with low 3D Accel. requirements.
[08:57] <cellofellow> Most of them I've tried have been too powerful.
[09:05] <gerro> hello
[09:06] <vidd_laptop> HELLO
[09:06] <vidd_laptop> dang caplocks
[09:08] <vidd_laptop> gee....looks like the caps lock shot back =] 
[09:08] <gerro> shot his poor compy again :/
[09:08] <gerro> speaking of shooting things might sound like I'm shooting myself in foot by doing this but
[09:09] <gerro> know how to completely erase a hard drive including grub and mbr etc?
[09:09] <gerro> I got some distro goob on my pc that need wiping :(
[09:10] <cellofellow> gerro: try dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hda
[09:10] <vidd_laptop> if you are doing a clean install.....gparted should do it all for you
[09:10] <cellofellow> you may have to set some sort of repeat so it wipes the whole disk.
[09:10] <gerro> thanks cellofellow
[09:10] <gerro> what you mean by that?
[09:11] <cellofellow> well, /dev/null is only so big. actually, use /dev/zero
[09:11] <cellofellow> you can set something in dd that makes /dev/zero look bigger.
[09:11] <gerro> so dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda
[09:11] <cellofellow> or smaller.
[09:11] <gerro> umm?
[09:11] <cellofellow> yeah, try it from livecd and see what it does.
[09:11] <gerro> okay thanks
[09:12] <cellofellow> it will at least erase the partition table and part of the MBR.
[09:12] <gerro> part?
[09:13] <gerro> thx a lot, I was confused kept getting grub error 17
[09:14] <vidd_laptop> cellofellow, did you look at that link to gentoo? and did it help you any?
[09:14] <cellofellow> I'm still working on it, but it looks like it'll work
[09:14] <vidd_laptop> ok
[09:14] <cellofellow> what's the opposite of modprobe? I need to start over and remove a module.
[09:15] <gerro> rmmod or modprobe -r
[09:16] <cellofellow> ok
[09:21] <Chadarius> TheSheep: Hey there... Chadarius here. I'm going to be helping out with the Drupal site.
[09:21] <gerro> drupal site?
[09:22] <anderodriguex> hi
[09:22] <gerro> anderodriguex: what up homie! :)
[09:22] <Chadarius> yeah for xubuntu.org
[09:22] <anderodriguex> i can't mount an audio cd :S
[09:22] <anderodriguex> can you help me?
[09:22] <TheSheep> Chadarius: great
[09:22] <gerro> Chadarius: is drupal a xubuntu version?
[09:23] <gerro> anderodriguex: it should appear on your desktop then you just click it, are you having trouble with a specific application?
[09:23] <Chadarius> gerro: not sure what you mean exactly... is there a drupal package? Yeah there is one in the repos
[09:23] <TheSheep> Chadarius: you can get the thing I checked out from the ubuntu repos and recolored at http://atos.wmid.amu.edu.pl/~sheep/website2007.tar.gz
[09:23] <Chadarius> TheSheep: Yep... Jim sent me an email with all the details
[09:23] <gerro> !drupal
[09:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drupal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:23] <TheSheep> anderodriguex: you can't mount an audio cd, it doesn't have any filesystem on it
[09:24] <Chadarius> TheSheep: I just wanted to ping you before I ssh'd in or anthing to let you know I was going to start messing around tonight
[09:24] <gerro> ohhh its an audio cd...
[09:24] <anderodriguex> TheSheep: so, i can't play it
[09:24] <TheSheep> Chadarius: ah, gread, the host is vidd's though :)
[09:24] <gerro> anderodriguex: use a media player to play it
[09:24] <TheSheep> anderodriguex: you can play it with an audio player
[09:24] <anderodriguex> gerro: no, don't plays because an mounting error
[09:24] <TheSheep> anderodriguex: they have a separate option to play a cd, you don't mount it for playing
[09:24] <Chadarius> TheSheep: OK... are you also going to work on it, or are you just supplying the graphics?
[09:25] <anderodriguex> ok, so how can i reproduce an audio cd?
[09:25] <gerro> Chadarius: it has graphics too?
[09:25] <Chadarius> anderodriguex: cdrecord would work
[09:25] <gerro> I would just use k3b
[09:25] <TheSheep> Chadarius: this is something I started doing for feisty, but never had time to finish -- I'm even shorter on time now, but I will gladly answer any questions and help with anything hard
[09:26] <cellofellow> vidd_laptop: those gentoo instructions aren't working.
[09:26] <anderodriguex> Chadarius: sudo apt-get install cdrecord?
[09:26] <gerro> anderodriguex: or open synaptic and search for it :)
[09:26] <Chadarius> anderodriguex: if it isn't already there yeah
[09:26] <TheSheep> anderodriguex: k3b is for recording cds
[09:26] <Chadarius> anderodriguex: I've never had to install cdrecord directly
[09:27] <TheSheep> anderodriguex: same with cdrecord
[09:27] <Chadarius> crap its not cdrecord
[09:27] <TheSheep> anderodriguex: I use audacious for playing cds, but you can use mostly anything
[09:28] <TheSheep> anderodriguex: xmms, bmp and audacious look like winamp and can even use its skins
[09:28] <cellofellow> audacious > bmp > xmms
[09:29] <TheSheep> cellofellow: if you're comparing age...
[09:29] <cellofellow> yes
[09:29] <cellofellow> But I like Audacious the best.
[09:29] <TheSheep> cellofellow: only reverse the signs
[09:30] <Chadarius> anderodriguex: Its cdparanoia that is the command line ripper
[09:30] <TheSheep> Chadarius: but he only wants to *play* it :)
[09:30] <cellofellow> use abcde to rip and encode and tag in one command.
[09:30] <Chadarius> oh well heck why play it when you can rip it :)
[09:30] <Chadarius> and then play it and play it and play it
[09:31] <anderodriguex> i can't examine the cd contain :S
[09:31] <Chadarius> TheSheep: Hey thanks for the info man. I'll check in with you if I have questions on anything
[09:32] <TheSheep> Chadarius: I'm sorry I can't finish what I started
[09:32] <TheSheep> Chadarius: you can also checkout the original theme from svn on launchpad somehwere
[09:32] <TheSheep> Chadarius: but I can't remember the adress
[09:32] <Chadarius> TheSheep: Believe me... I know how you feel. :) I have a 4 month old boy
[09:33] <Chadarius> TheSheep: Lots of priority resetting going on for me too
[09:33] <TheSheep> ouch
[09:33] <TheSheep> Chadarius: on the other hand, congratulations
[09:34] <anderodriguex> ok, thank you very much!
[09:34] <anderodriguex> bye
[09:35] <Chadarius> TheSheep: Thanks! Its the best thing I've ever done. My son is a blast. He's just started to crawl/scoot around now. Its hilarious
[09:36] <vidd_laptop> Chadarius, as an FYI, the ~xubuntu has access to php, MySQL (no database set up yet) and if you need anything else....just let me know
[09:36] <Chadarius> vidd_laptop: Ah thanks man!
[09:37] <Chadarius> vidd_laptop: TheSheep: Should we be looking to use launchpad/bazaar or something for this going forward?
[09:37] <TheSheep> Chadarius: not sure, I think we can set it up when it's needed
[09:38] <Chadarius> vidd_laptop: TheSheep: I can start up a project for it. OK... as long as its just me working on it I'll hold off. If we get more interest than I setup up
[09:38] <vidd_laptop> Chadarius, drupel, wordpress and phpBB are already on the machine, and is just a cp away from use....if ya need/want them
[09:38] <Chadarius> vidd_laptop: TheSheep: When its complete I'll check the whole thing up there though just to make sure its available to everyone later on
[09:39] <Chadarius> vidd_laptop: TheSheep: Is there a spec or anything I should be following?
[09:46] <TheSheep> Chadarius: look for 'xubuntu artwork' on the wiki
[09:47] <TheSheep> Chadarius: these are loose things though
[09:47] <TheSheep> Chadarius: practically all that is blue and has a xubuntu logo is acceptable ;)
[09:47] <Chadarius> TheSheep: Cool thanks. I'll look at that and the existing site for some guidance
[09:47] <TheSheep> Chadarius: we don't have a precise policy or target audience
[10:02] <Jester45> Chadarius, if you need anything from vidd_laptop i can also get it for you
[10:03] <Chadarius> Jester45: Thanks
[10:03] <vidd_laptop> Chadarius, yes.... Jester45 has admin rights on that server
[10:03] <Jester45> im here more often than vidd
[10:04] <vidd_laptop> the pitfalls of having a job!
[10:04] <Jester45> but i dont pay attion that much when im here
[10:04] <vidd_laptop> Chadarius, you may also see me online as vidd
[10:05] <Chadarius> Yeah Jobs! Can't pay for a house without them.
[10:05] <vidd_laptop> (jobs...but houses would be nice too!)
[10:06] <Chadarius> The house is a job in itself somethings
[10:07] <Chadarius> Was out this morning at 7:30 am to fix the air conditioner pipe's insulation
[10:07] <vidd_laptop> oh! joy
[10:07] <Chadarius> My dogs like to chew on it sometimes. Its their little pratical joke on me in the Summer
[10:08] <Chadarius> I'm tie wrapping rabbit fencing around it this time
[10:08] <vidd_laptop> Chadarius, rub pepper and garlic on it...the dogs will leave it alone
[10:09] <cheeseboy> whats the live cds user password?
[10:09] <Chadarius> Yeah not so much with my oldest dog Riddick
[10:09] <Jester45> doesnt have one
[10:09] <vidd_laptop> cheeseboy, it doesnt have one
[10:09] <cheeseboy> why cant i ssh then?
[10:09] <Chadarius> Did that and sour apple
[10:09] <Jester45> the user would be root i think
[10:10] <vidd_laptop> you cant ssh into the live cd because it does not have opensshd installed by default....
[10:10] <vidd_laptop> you should be able to ssh out without issue
[10:11] <vidd_laptop> as long as it has a functional network connection
[10:12] <vidd_laptop> Chadarius, did you see my comment on your ssh terminal?
[10:12] <Chadarius> vidd_laptop: yeah
[10:13] <vidd_laptop> in case you are not aware.....you would respond by using the command write [username] 
[10:14] <vidd_laptop> and [ctrl] [c]  to stop the write command
[10:22] <discord_> the printer menu disappered from applications > settings anyone know how i can get it back?
[10:58] <discord_> the printer menu disappered from applications > settings anyone know how i can get it back?
[11:04] <TheSheep> discord_: just like that or did you do something?
[12:09] <Jester45> whats some good realtime network moniters
[12:09] <Jester45> cli ony
[12:11] <Jester45> nevermind that i found a good list of them
[12:25] <cheeseboy> will someone help me with qemu here?
[12:25] <cheeseboy> #qemu no help
[12:25] <Jester45> whats your problem
[12:25] <cheeseboy> i would like to install windows using it then dual boot
[12:25] <cheeseboy> is that possible?
[12:26] <Jester45> umm
[12:26] <Jester45> should
[12:26] <cheeseboy> what do i have to do
[12:27] <cheeseboy> just make partition?
[12:27] <Jester45> no
[12:27] <Jester45> im not sure but this is how i would do it
[12:28] <cheeseboy>  :/
[12:28] <Jester45> make an iso and write the stuff to that then deflate it into a partition
[12:28] <Jester45> then edit grub to include a entry for it
[12:28] <Jester45> but idk how you can do that with qemu or if it will even boot
[12:28] <Jester45> it will have settings or a diffrent computer
[12:29] <Jester45> for*
[12:29] <cheeseboy> Jester45, would you try walk through that with me?