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maverickguys, i was so happy feisty did easily support NTFS....wohooo12:16
maverickwithout the previous bugs that used to occure in edgy12:17
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Daisuke_Idomaverick: using feisty, you know universe is enabled from the start, the end user doesn't have to enable it, therefore not having the repo added/enabled is not the issue with Jemidon's codec installation problem12:18
BluesKajyes vzduch , it's going to be more difficult here in Canada as well. The US movie industry is threatening to delay distribution of some movie releases here... as if most ppl care , some of the crap Hollywood is putting out isn't worth copying12:18
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Daisuke_IdoBluesKaj: one word: transformers :D12:18
BluesKajyeah, i heard12:18
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maverickDaisuke_Ido: What do you think it could be then?!12:19
Daisuke_Idomaverick: i have no clue.  but i do know what it's not.12:19
Daisuke_Idoperhaps using another mirror?12:19
maverickwell, i dunno if he's even using feisty12:20
maverickjemidon: are you using feisty?12:20
Daisuke_Idofrom helping him last night, i know that whether or not he's using feisty, he does have universe enabled.12:21
chaoticdo any of u use firefox12:21
Jemidonshoot, transformers was awesome12:21
Daisuke_Idochaotic: no, just Internet Explorer12:21
chaoticrofl12:21
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Daisuke_IdoJemidon: of course, heading out to see it again shortly :P12:21
chaoticum  its just thathow do i associate .torrents with ktorrent on firefox12:22
vzduchDaisuke_Ido: yes, universe is enabled by default, but multiverse is not12:22
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Daisuke_Idogood point12:23
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chaoticdoes anyone kno12:24
wepihaI am having a problem getting 'Shared Rear/Line-In' working12:24
Daisuke_Ido!info libmad012:24
ubotulibmad0: MPEG audio decoder library. In component main, is optional. Version 0.15.1b-2.1 (feisty), package size 75 kB, installed size 160 kB12:24
maverickjemidon: try downloading it manually from ubuntu packages website...12:25
ardchoille!news12:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about news - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:25
phoenixzk3b under kubuntu does not detect my DVD writer which k3b under Fedora did detect.. Anything to solve this one?12:25
Daisuke_IdoJemidon: sudo apt-get install libmad012:25
ardchoilleI need an rss feed for Ubuntu. Any ideas?12:25
Daisuke_Idolibxine-extracodecs depends on libmad012:25
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boudewijnchaotic: i was having that same problem with firefox. i could not get it to open torrents in ktorrent. now i simply use konqueror to open torrent sites.12:25
wepihaardchoille: since this is the kubuntu channel. could I recommend akgregator!12:25
ardchoilleJemidon: Still having probs with libxine-extracodecs?12:26
ardchoillewepiha: I need an rss feed, not a reader.. I already use akregator12:26
chaotictheres no executable  file for ktorrent12:26
wepihaardchoille: ok. I missunderstood ;)12:26
ardchoillewepiha: np :)12:26
chaotic?12:27
boudewijn?12:27
boudewijn..   /usr/bin/ktorrent12:27
ardchoillechaotic: In a term, type: which ktorrent12:28
JemidonArdchoille: yep lol Dai: just running the command now12:28
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Jemidonit is finished setting it up12:28
ardchoilleJemidon: Can you pastebin your sources.list? I'd be interested in seeing it.12:28
Daisuke_IdoJemidon: now try playing an mp3.  can't promise anything, but hey :P12:29
ardchoilleJemidon: Also, xmms plays mp3's out of the box.12:29
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JemidonDaisuke: still says no mp3 support12:29
chaoticwhat about the ubuntu equipped firefox12:30
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JemidonArdchoille: let me try to install xmms and see if that works, if all else fails, i could do itunes under wine? would that be a solution?12:30
intelikeyi want a good shell,   not this modern bash.   something like dash with $RANDOM and command line editing.   is there any such thing ?12:30
ardchoilleJemidon: No idea, I haven't touched a Windows app in 7 years, lol12:31
ardchoille!info xmms12:31
wepiha!xmms | ardchoille12:31
ubotuxmms: Versatile X audio player. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.2.10+20061201-1ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 794 kB, installed size 6304 kB12:31
ubotuardchoille: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs12:31
ardchoilleubotu: Glad you could join us12:31
maverickjemidon..if amarok doesn't play mp3 none will12:32
maverickit's not in amarok it's in the codecs itself12:32
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boudewijnjust install xmms or audacious12:32
Jemidonactually, xmms is playing perfectly12:32
ardchoille:)12:33
Jemidonnow the next question lol12:33
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maverick0.o12:33
benhgrrr12:33
ardchoilleJemidon: http://xmms.org/skins.php12:33
benhso kubuntu.org doesn't have kde 3.5.7 ppc packages12:33
ardchoillexmms doesn't seem to need the mp3 codecs12:33
maverickhmm...why would amarok not play then!!12:33
maverickreally?12:33
maverickxmms independent from that...!!12:33
benhgrrr12:34
ardchoilleor may be it has it already compiled in12:34
Jemidonhmm interesting12:34
boudewijni never use amarok so i wouldnt now. i started it once (with dapper)  and it noticed i had no mp3 support and automaticly downloaded the codec12:34
wepihaafaik, you need amarok-xine and libmad0 to play mp3s12:34
vzduchmaverick: XMMS has its own MP3 decoder12:34
phoenixzAny reason why k3b (or Kubuntu) may not detect my DVD writer as a write, but as a reader only????12:34
ardchoillevzduch: I thought so12:34
ardchoillephoenixz: Dumb question, are you sure it's a writer? I accidentally bought a dvd reader and coudln't figure out why it wouldn't write.12:35
vzduchwepiha: indeed, you need libmad012:36
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vzduchwepiha: as for the sound engine, you could as well use amarok-helix or amarok-gstreamer (don't know the exact names; I think these were the names in openSUSE)12:36
phoenixzardchoille, Hahahah.. that would have been cool, but no, it can write.. I used to have Fedora and it worked all ok, also used k3b to write CD's and DVD;s12:37
wepihavzduch: ok. I perfer xine, although I know little about the differences!12:37
ardchoillephoenixz: Ah, ok.. just checking12:37
Jemidonard: well that solves that problem, i reckon i'll just use xmms from now on, as long as it has a playlist i can use12:37
vzduchwepiha: Xine is in many respects superior to the others afaik12:37
ardchoilleJemidon: It does, and there are some cool skins for it.12:38
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vzduchphoenixz: is the DVD drive detected at all?12:38
maverickjemidon: xmms is like winamp in lots of aspects...12:38
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vzduchphoenixz: i.e. can you read discs w/ it?12:38
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wepihaI remember a while ago there used to be a sudo command to setup k3b?12:39
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maverickwepiha: sudo apt-get install k3b12:39
maverickwepiha: that's what you mean?12:39
wepihamaverick: no, i mean it was a setup-k3b-devices or something to that effect12:40
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maverickooh i c..12:40
ardchoillewepiha: I think the devs took that setup and made it per-suer now.. I haven't seen that root setup in a while.12:40
vzduchmaverick: I guess not.. there was a k3bsetup a while ago, but it's not there any more.. to my knowledge it's not needed any more12:40
ardchoille*per-user12:40
wepihaardchoille: indeed. hmmm I wonder what phoenixzs' /etc/fstab says12:41
ardchoillewepiha: Now you're thiking :)12:41
mavericki don't like k3b much, i don't know why but it just don't go easy with me burning cds sometimes it just fails12:41
ardchoille*thinking12:41
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wepihamy entry for /etc/fstab contains       /dev/hda /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 012:41
wepihamost importantly, it has RW12:42
intelikeynobody know of a "dash like shell" that supports command line editing ?12:42
phoenixzvzduch, Yeah, I can open files from it, no problem12:42
wepihaardchoille: haha it takes a while in the morning :)12:42
ardchoillelol12:42
vzduchI remember having had such an issue w/ my DVD drive in another OS.. don't remember how I solved it though12:43
Existzhey, does talking about your personal lives make you sad?12:43
intelikeyExistz i don't have a personal life so NO.12:44
Jemidonlol nope doesn't make me sad12:45
wepihaphoenixz: what is the output from `cat /etc/fstab | grep /dev/hda` if you replace /dev/hda with your dvd burner ?12:45
vzduchphoenixz: try from the menu --> Tools | Settings --> the 2nd item (probably 'Devices') lists your drives; it also has two buttons: 'Add device' and 'Refresh'12:46
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Existzany of you married?12:46
wepihaExistz: nope12:46
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Existzhow old are you peeps?12:46
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wepihai'm 1712:46
wepihalol12:46
maverick1912:46
Existzah you're young12:46
wepihais this a survey?12:46
vzduch<-- 3012:46
Existzsurprisingly12:46
Existzfor myself I guess12:47
SlimeyPetedon't answer!12:47
wepihaactually i'm 25 :p12:47
Existzjust curious12:47
Existzi'm 25 myself12:47
SlimeyPetehe's trying to steal your identities!12:47
vzduchlol12:47
Existzare you really?12:47
wepihareally12:47
Jemidoni'm 19 and married12:47
Existz17 seemed young12:47
Existzhaha12:47
phoenixzvzduch, I already checked that, and it does not list my dvd burner12:47
Existzyou're full of shit12:47
Existzhaha12:47
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Existzanyone dating?12:47
PriceChild!offtopic | Existz12:47
ubotuExistz: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!12:47
Existzyeah12:47
Existzbeen there12:47
maverick19 and married?!12:47
Existzit's dead12:47
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maverickseriously?!!12:48
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Existzhe must live in some remote state12:48
Existzlike utah12:48
Existzkentucky12:48
Existzsomething12:48
wepihaphoenixz: what is the output from `cat /etc/fstab | grep /dev/hda` if you replace /dev/hda with your dvd burner ?12:48
Jemidonmaveric: yea12:48
Existzjemido, where do you live?12:48
phoenixzwepiha,  /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       012:48
Existzjemidon12:48
maverickwell, can i come where you live  :D12:48
PriceChildExistz, please stop the offtopic chat.12:48
Existzwho's prince?12:49
MinatakuAnd the swearing12:49
MinatakuPriceChild: He was doing this yesterday, too12:49
Existzah some random guy12:49
MinatakuIn fact12:49
Minataku!ops12:49
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!12:49
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wepihaExistz: http://becomeaplayer.com/index.htm12:49
Minatakulol12:49
MinatakuI forgot you were one, PriceChild XD12:49
wepihaphoenixz: try add rw into it, like;12:50
wepihaphoenixz:  /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,rw,iso9660 user,noauto     0       012:50
wepihaarrgg12:50
wepiha /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,rw,noauto     0       012:50
wepiha:p12:50
Jemidonlol well that fixes the problem12:50
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phoenixzwepiha, How do I remount the DVD drive then?12:51
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Existzwth12:51
Existzwhat's with this family orientated crap12:51
wepihaphoenixz: `sudo umount /media/cdrom0`12:51
wepihaphoenixz: then `sudo mount -a`12:51
JemidonArchoille are you still there?12:51
Existzhey who the hell is mina?12:51
ardchoilleyes12:51
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ardchoilleJemidon: Pastebin your sources.list12:52
MinatakuNice work, gnomefreak12:52
ardchoille!paste12:52
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:52
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Jemidonardchoille: ok12:52
vzduchPriceChild: on a technical note.. how do you 'request' users to leave?  is that a ChanServ feature?12:52
MinatakuIt is12:52
PriceChildvzduch, its a freenode feature12:52
Whiz2__stdin: you around?12:52
vzduchah12:52
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stdinWhiz2__: for a while12:53
MinatakuUsually forced actions are the realm of Services Administrators12:53
PriceChildvzduch, from see the bottom of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/OperatorGuidelines12:53
MinatakuWhich is a very high level of IRC Operator12:53
JemidonArdchoille: do i find my source.list?12:53
Jemidon!source.list12:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about source.list - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:53
Jemidon!sourcelist12:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sourcelist - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:53
MinatakuHere, they have it set up to allow Channel Operators to do it in their channels12:53
vzduch!sources.list12:53
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu12:53
MinatakuIt's done to defeat clients utilizing "Autorejoin on kick"12:54
ardchoilleJemidon: /etc/apt/sources.list12:54
vzduchinteresting12:54
Whiz2__stdin: i managed to get it working earlier... but it screwed up the rest of my wireless network when i told router 2 to transmit router 1's infomration... i had to set it back & switch off & back on router 2 when i was done12:54
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phoenixzwepiha, did it, but didnt work12:54
MinatakuBTW, gnomefreak, IINM, Roadrunner has full DHCP, so keep an eye out in case he swaps his IP12:54
Jemidonsays permission denied, am i going to have to do it under root shell?12:55
gnomefreakMinataku: im not worried12:55
Minatakugnomefreak: Didn't say you should be, just saying that he might be back12:55
MinatakuSo don't go too far ;312:55
stdinWhiz2__: strange12:55
Whiz2__stdin: when i was trying without DHCP, i was plugged directly into router 112:55
PriceChildMinataku, btw many have rejoin on remove as well as kick 8-)12:55
wepihaphoenixz: hmmm12:55
MinatakuPriceChild: Heh, I haven't seen that yet12:55
maverickjemidon: sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list12:56
PriceChildMinataku, join me in #pricechild12:56
MinatakuOkay12:56
intelikeystdin you might know.   is there a dash like (posix compliant) shell that supports command line editing ?12:56
phoenixzwepiha, exactly my thoughts..12:56
richardinglishey guys12:56
richardinglisi ejected a dvd while it was playing12:57
richardinglisand now i canne watch dvds any more12:57
richardinglisi get the message 'the source can't be read'12:57
richardinglisand no plugin found to handle this resource12:57
stdinintelikey: umm, I haven't found one12:57
richardinglisi have reinstalled the kaffeine and xine packages12:57
richardinglisany ideas?12:57
Whiz2__stdin: thing is, i shouldn't have to go through all that... in the dapper release of kubuntu (which my server runs now) all i have to do is set the manual stuff, and the wired connected no matter which router it was plugged into12:57
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JemidonArdchoille: there's my source.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29962/12:58
ardchoilleJemidon: just do cp /etc/apt/sources.list ~/Desktop/sources.list and then copy paste it into pastebin. No need for root.12:58
stdinintelikey: I know (da)sh doesn't, and there aren't that many pure posix shells that I've used12:58
Jemidonardchoille: i suspect that's how it's supposed to be?12:58
ardchoilleJemidon: oh, ok, hold on will look.12:58
intelikeystdin k,  thanks for the intel12:58
[EgO] Hi all. Help me, plz: I install software for my sinaptics touchpad, but it doesnt work=(12:58
stdinWhiz2__: not sure what would have changed12:58
ardchoilleJemidon: You are using the us repos, I had lots of problems until I used diff repos. Want me to help with that?12:59
wepihaphoenixz: try commenting that line out and adding /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 012:59
wepihaphoenixz: I said comment so you can restore it later if need be ;)12:59
vzduchardchoille: do you think the US repos are crippled on purpose?01:00
JemidonArdchoille: sure, if you don't mind, just so I can update, cause i've noticed that alot of my options for programs are greyed out in my package manager like i can't access them or they are non-existant01:00
vzduchnot that that'd bother me personally, I don't live in the US01:00
[EgO] When i click "keyboard and mouse" in Control center, it says me : "add option SHMConfig 'on'" I do it,but touchpad doesnt work01:00
ardchoillevzduch: No idea01:00
phoenixzwepiha, I have a backup of fstab :)01:00
ardchoilleJemidon: Ok, open a terminal and I'll give you two commands to run.01:00
tams[EgO] : restarted X?01:00
intelikeywepiha specifying dev,exec,suid ???     it will default to those settings anyway wont it ?01:00
Whiz2__[EgO] : touchpad should work by default in kubuntu. what version are you using?01:01
[EgO] tams, of course01:01
Jemidonardchoille: already got terminal open01:01
intelikeyoh and atime01:01
ardchoilleJemidon: The first command makes a backup just in case:  sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.backup01:01
[EgO] Whiz2, Kubuntu 7.0401:01
Whiz2__[EgO] : what version of kubuntu? ;-)01:01
Whiz2__feisty?01:02
[EgO] ya01:02
phoenixzwepiha, didnt work either.. I checked  settings / programs: vcdxbild, vcdxminfo and vcdxrip are not installed.. those could not cause this problem?01:02
Whiz2__i was in liveCD mode earlier today on a laptop (this laptop in fact) and i have no troubles01:02
Minataku!repos01:02
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu01:02
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tams[EgO] : my first try failed because I didn't put quotes around "SHMConfig"01:02
Whiz2__with the touchpad anyway lol01:02
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tamsso the line should read as option "SHMConfig" "on" ... after changing it worked01:03
ardchoilleJemidon: the second command removes the "us" from the repos that have it:  sudo sed -i 's/us.archive/archive/g' /etc/apt/sources.list01:03
ardchoilleJemidon: Now update your sources: sudo apt-get update01:03
Whiz2__[EgO] : did the touchpad ever work in kubuntu?01:03
wepihaphoenixz: idk, ask around :(01:03
[EgO] Whiz, my touch work on Ubunru 6.04, but on Kubuntu its doesnt work01:04
Jemidonardchoille: it's working on getting the packages and all01:04
ardchoilleJemidon: yes, it should be updating sources01:04
intelikeyphoenixz for iso9660 and udf  uid=value gid=value and umask=01:04
ardchoilleJemidon: If all goes well, you can either save or delete /etc/apt/sources.list.backup  it's up to you01:05
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Jemidonardchoille: so i basically just allowed it to access the world repositories?01:05
ardchoilleJemidon: right01:05
phoenixzintelikey, what what what? uid=value  what value? and umask=? where do I put that?01:05
Whiz2__[EgO] : how odd... not sure what would cause that. maybe they forgot the drivers for it in kubuntu **shrugs** i'm not really familliar with mouse issues in linux01:05
[EgO] tams, How can i put quotes around SHMConfig?01:05
Jemidonard: reason i'm learning all this, is because i'm going to be a computer systems operator in the military, best to go in with as much knowledge as I can seeing as the govt. uses linux01:06
Jemidonard: :)01:06
ardchoilleJemidon: Good idea :)01:06
phoenixz[EgO] , like this? 'SHMConfig'01:06
intelikeyphoenixz your users uid   echo $UID01:06
Jemidonardchoille: ok it's done, now do I try to get a random program and it should work?01:06
ardchoilleJemidon: It should be fine now01:06
[EgO] Whiz2, i install drivers01:06
tams[EgO] : "SHMConfig"... I just said that because at first I took the error message literally and option SHMConfig "on" is not a valid line, it should read az option "SHMConfig" "on"01:06
intelikeyphoenixz default is 1000 in ubuntu01:06
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ardchoilleJemidon: Keep in mind, sometimes certan repos are down at times, can't be helped.01:07
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intelikeymine's eleven01:07
JemidonArdchoille: well hot damn, that works01:07
ardchoillelol01:07
JemidonArdchoille: yes, i remember from last night's conversation01:07
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Whiz2__[EgO] : those drivers were linux drivers???01:07
JemidonArdchoille: I feel like i've been released to the world...:) lol01:07
ardchoillehahaha01:08
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intelikeyphoenixz and the umask=  is the octal deduction form the permissions of 77701:08
Whiz2__aka read, write, execute01:08
intelikeyso a umask of umask=000   will yeld permissions of  777 fs wide01:08
tams[EgO] : and it's all a blur now but I think I first succeeded getting the touchpad working on Feisty when I fist reconfigured xserver-xorg and then edited the fresh xorg.conf01:08
[EgO] Whiz2: Of course, i download it from repositary01:08
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[EgO] tams : thanks=)01:09
Minatakuumask is 8's complement01:09
intelikeyphoenixz need more info just whistel01:09
[EgO] tams : i try it=)01:09
Jemidonardchoille: now the fun part, getting libdvdcss01:09
tams[EgO] : np, good luck then :)01:10
Whiz2__[EgO] : that's really odd... if they are the linux drivers designed for that mouse, then it makes no sense that the mouse would not work.01:10
Minataku!seveas01:10
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages01:10
ardchoilleJemidon: sed and awk are pretty powerful, it would be good to learn them.01:10
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ardchoille!libdvdcss01:10
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs01:10
K-Ryan!sound01:10
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP301:10
phoenixzintelikey, honestly, I don't understand what you are talking about.. you mean to say I should modify the fstab or something?01:10
tamsWhiz2__: the synaptic drivers need the shared memory option to work and you need to enable that manually. After that it works like a charm.01:10
Jemidoni was waiting on the seveas packages lol01:10
ardchoilleJemidon: The seveas repo is quite nice01:10
[EgO] Whiz2: whats Odd? I bad speak english=)01:11
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Whiz2__tams: if you know how to fix the mouse problem, then tell them, not me ;-)01:11
Minataku[EgO] : If English isn't your primary language, we do have localized channels01:11
Whiz2__[EgO] : odd = strange01:11
[EgO] ok01:11
MinatakuWhat language is your primary?01:12
ardchoille[EgO] : What is your native language?01:12
[EgO] russian01:12
ardchoille!ru01:12
Minataku!ru01:12
intelikeyphoenixz yes and use the uid umask settings  here's an example;   /dev/dvd /media/dvd udf,iso9660 noauto,uid=1000,umask=015 0 001:12
ubotu   #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke01:12
tamsWhiz2__: I just tell the symptoms. :D It's pretty darn confusing to see an utility telling you to do a thing that could be automated. Must be some good reasoning behind that.01:12
ardchoillebot is slow today01:12
MinatakuToday? :P01:12
ardchoillehahaha01:12
phoenixzintelikey, wepiha, k9copy also does not see the writer...01:12
[EgO] !ru01:12
phoenixzintelikey, okay, what is the umask01:13
Minataku[EgO] : Look under where we typed it01:13
MinatakuYou should see Cyrillic01:13
intelikeyphoenixz octal deduction form the full permission 77701:13
chaotichey wheres kmail01:13
Whiz2__so anyone here know why manual settings would fail to connect me to my router in feisty, but work perfectly fine in dapper?01:13
chaotici kno  it comes preloaded01:13
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ardchoillechaotic: You can run it my typing kmail or it's also part of kontact01:14
chaoticah ok no wonder lol01:14
MinatakuConsidering shared memory is pretty much the norm on every "Not Windows" OS...01:14
JemidonArdchoille: downloading the packages now01:14
vzduchchaotic: K-Menu >> Internet >> KMail01:14
MinatakuIt's surprising that it wouldn't be the obvious default :P01:14
bart_please can somebody tell me the RIGHT way to install nvidia drivers ???01:15
Minataku!nv01:15
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:15
K-Ryanaplay -l01:15
K-Ryanoops01:15
bart_that doesn' t work in kubuntu...01:15
K-RyanMeant to click my other shell >.>01:15
bart_Minataku..01:15
K-Ryanbart_ Yeah it does01:15
ardchoillebart_: What doesn't work in kubuntu?01:15
Minatakubart_: It's worked for everyone before you01:15
tamsMinataku: Feisty is really a box of (often dark) entetainment :)01:15
Minatakulol01:15
bart_System  Administration  Restricted Devices Manager.01:16
MinatakuI wouldn't know, I use Gentoo01:16
bart_where can I find that in kde?01:16
tamshehe :D01:16
clouderbart_: type restricted-manager in console01:16
Minataku:301:16
bart_must install it first... ok01:16
MinatakuThat would certainly help01:17
tams:DDDDDD01:17
Jemidontams: yea, Feisty is a box of dark entertainment, i'm finding that out the hard way01:17
intelikeyphoenixz octal premissions are read  like binary counting    111_2 == 7_8   i.e.  read,write,execute or 111_2  is octal prem 7       and the three digits are   owner,group,world(or other)          thus  umask=027     will yeld a fs wide permission on the disk of 750   owner rwx   group r_x   other ___01:17
Whiz2__i'm thinking of putting feisty on one of the computers on my network... but if i can't get the manual network settings to connect me to the internet even in liveCD mode, then i'm not even gonna bother... not after what the DHCP stuff did to my network eaarlier01:17
wepihaWhiz2__: what happened with your dhcp?01:19
Whiz2__i have 2 routers... 1 connected to the other router 1 is the gateway, and router 2 is the wireless transmitter for my wireless client...01:19
phoenixzintelikey, I think I have the answer. I am not a member of the group cdrom.. :)01:19
Whiz2__i switched DHCP on, and told it to transmit router 1's IP as the gate way, annd every wireless client went down... i had to switch everything back, and power cycle router 2 to get my wireless networks back01:20
intelikeyphoenixz all file systems that don't have permissions bits in the fs  use a psuido permission for the whole mount,   among them are iso9660 udf vfat ntfs msdos   and possably others    linux file systems have the permissions on the fs  i.e. each file has it's own perms.     so setting a umask when mounting will set the fs wide permission01:20
wepihaWhiz2__: and dhclient screwed it royally?01:21
intelikeyphoenixz ok    class dismissed01:21
wepihalol01:21
wepihaha wouldn't that be nice ;)01:21
Whiz2__wepiha: dhclient?01:21
wepihaWhiz2__: its the command used for a dhcp connect, like `sudo dhclient eth0`01:22
Whiz2__i don't use DHCP because i use port forwarding all across my network01:22
Jemidonardchoille:  HELL YEA!!! i got my dvd player working through kaffine with audio!!!101:22
tamsWhiz2__: not UPnP-compatible routers you have?01:22
JemidonRoom: now i feel special ed01:22
Whiz2__UPnP is turned off on the routers01:22
wepihaJemidon: I thought this *was* the spec ed room01:23
ardchoilleJemidon: \o/01:23
Jemidonwepiha: lol...possibly is01:23
wepihahmmm if not where am I supposed to be then??01:23
tamshmm... I found UPnP to ease most port-forwarding frustration. In fact, I don't have a single port forwarded manually and stuff work fine01:23
Jemidonhee hee01:23
ardchoillewepiha: lol01:23
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wepihaofftopic I know ;)01:24
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Whiz2__tams: I turned off UPnP, because it interferes with my forwarded ports... those ports are with progs that are not UPnP compatible ;-)01:24
tamsOh I see.01:24
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tamsI suppose using (eq buying) a simple AP instead of the wireless router is not an option01:25
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Whiz2__tams: nope01:25
tamss/on/over/01:25
Whiz2__tams: the UPnP is on the wired router anyway :-p01:26
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MinatakuI have a two-in-one01:26
MinatakuIt's a wired router + AP01:26
MinatakuExtremely convienent01:26
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tamsI suppose Whiz2__ has one of those too01:27
MinatakuNo, he said he has two01:27
tamsyea right01:27
Whiz2__Minataku: i don't have that option... my wireless router is meant to be an AP, but it's designed as a DSL router... i have it networked to router 1, because i use Cable :-p01:27
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MinatakuMine's an ethernet router, DSL or Cable01:27
Whiz2__so yea i have one too lol01:27
MinatakuI have it connected to my cable modem01:28
tamsMinataku: I have one, spen a s-notniceword-load money on and turns out the signal is weak at my main spot of the house :D01:28
Whiz2__so is my wired router... but that's wrired01:28
draikI can't seem to get VMware server to read my HDD's partition of winxp01:28
draikAny clues?01:28
Minatakutams: Mine was nice and cheap01:28
intelikeyman.    first liar ain't never got a chance...01:28
tamsgood for you :] 01:28
MinatakuD-Link DI-614+01:28
tamsdraik: symptoms01:28
draikNo OS found01:28
intelikey@jemidon01:29
Whiz2__Minataku: i don't have the money to replace my wired router with a spiffy new  one01:29
draikI go Local Host01:29
MinatakuHeh01:29
tamsno idea o.O01:29
MinatakuThe DI-614+ has actually been EOL for a couple years now01:29
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tamsdraik: wait, aren't you choosing partitions, etc?01:29
Jemidonintelikey: hee hee...i did ride on top of a short bus through the rain and sun, but it wasn't a daily occurance01:29
MinatakuI've even got the old version of it, no less01:29
draikThen I click on Create A New Virtual Machine...01:29
draikYeah01:29
MinatakuThe one with the ARM7 and two antennas01:29
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Minatakutams: You can get high-gain antennas01:29
intelikeyJemidon i did ride a short bus    but not to school   :)01:30
MinatakuIf it lets you switch antennas, I had to do that with mine01:30
tamsMinataku: last time I checked they cost more than a separate AP01:30
Minatakutams: Mine was pretty cheap, too01:30
draiknosrednaekim stated that I should choose Bridged Network, which I do01:30
MinatakuWho you buying from, Cisco?01:30
tamsgod knows who :)01:30
Jemidonyea, high gain annennas will hhelp alot01:30
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chaotici think i removed kontact  when i removed kmail01:31
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intelikeychaotic probably01:31
intelikeyi think it's  a dep01:31
edsonhow to modify of kdm for gdm?01:31
Whiz2__here are the symptom: when using the wireless adapter, kubuntu doesn't even configure the device... just gets stuck... so forget that option... when i connect to the wired router directly, and try to set manual IP, netmask, gateway, and DNS, i get nothing at all...01:31
tamsAnd this antenna is just for my router, right? What about the poor little latop? I don't know the physics of this but do the clients need some sort of enhancement?01:31
MinatakuYeah, sounds like a case of retarded dependencies, chaotic01:31
Minatakutams: Negative01:31
intelikeyedson you mean switch from kdm to using gdm ?01:31
tamsnice01:32
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tamsWhiz2__: what does the syslog say?01:32
Jemidontams: all the high gain does is amplify your signal strenth01:32
Jemidontams: i have replaced mine on my linksys router01:32
tamsneat. I'll do my homework on that01:32
MinatakuAntennas always have a dB gain associated with them01:32
Whiz2__tams: i dunno i'm not in it anymore.. but i can be on my other comp if ya gimme a few?01:32
Jemidontams: and it works like a charm :)01:32
edsonintelikey, yes01:32
MinatakuSome antenna designs have a higher gain01:32
intelikeyedson if so:   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow gdm01:32
Whiz2__who knows... it might just work on the other one lol01:32
draiktams: Yeah. It's all on the same HDD01:32
MinatakuAnywhere along the line you can boost the dB increases it for the whole system01:33
tamsWhiz2__: I didn't mean I can help, but when KNetworkManager hates me the syslog usually helps01:33
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Whiz2__lol01:33
tamsdraik: no idea, sorry :(01:33
tams:)01:33
Whiz2__Minataku: you talkin to me?01:33
MinatakuNo01:33
Whiz2__ok01:33
JemidonMinataku: i may not know much about linux, but we got plenty of introduction to high gain antennas at college :) lol01:33
edsonintelikey, thank you. ;)01:33
intelikeyfor a fellow that doesn't even have sudo installed   i sure type sudo a lot.01:33
MinatakuJemidon: Heh01:33
intelikeyedson welcome01:34
tamsMinataku: thanks for the info01:34
MinatakuI'm a computer engineering technology student01:34
MinatakuWe did a little on antennas/transmission systems01:34
Whiz2__Minataku: wish i was lol01:34
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tamsWhiz2__: oh, one thing I have learned about the Feisty networking. turning the adapter on and off actually helps. no comment on this one01:34
MinatakuWires and air always a dB loss, antennas and gear a dB gain01:35
Whiz2__tams: tried that ;-)01:35
JemidonMinataku: i was an IT specialist for my old college, now i'm going into the USAF to work on database security01:35
MinatakuJemidon: Cool01:35
Jemidonand general networking sercurity :)01:35
tamsyou make me feel like a script kiddie01:35
wepihaI can't get any sound in from Line-input. argh!01:37
Jemidonsorry :->01:37
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edsonintelikey, I was I installed kubuntu-desktop in ubuntu, the screen of splashscreen I moved of "ubuntu" for "kubuntu" as to modify again for "ubuntu"?01:37
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intelikey!usplash | edson the later portion of this is how to regenerate the initramfs image01:38
ubotuedson the later portion of this is how to regenerate the initramfs image: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork01:38
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intelikeyand if you use lilo you already know that you will have to re-run lilo for the system to be bootable01:40
tamsif I have both ubuntu-desktop installed on kubuntu is there a way to avoid gnome creeping into my desktop? I haven't been able to identify the sources but after using the system for more than a few hours gtk applications start to use the gnome desktop's widgets, the volume osd gets replaced, etc.01:40
aaroncampbellHow do I add/remove fonts?01:41
intelikey!fonts | aaroncampbell01:41
ubotuaaroncampbell: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer01:41
aaroncampbellthanks01:42
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intelikeytams that shouldn't be time related but rather app related.  i.e.  if you boot the box and walk away, a month later it should still be the same; but if you open gnome apps in ked it starts several gtk services...01:43
intelikeykde even01:43
intelikeyi know that's not the answer you want...   jsut thinking out loud01:44
tamsright. I use tomboy a lot, but when I start it looks like the standard butt ugly gtk up. Then a few vague operations later it is ubuntu-studio black&blue. I know it's not time-related, I just don't know which apps mess up the place01:44
tams:)01:44
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tamss/up/app/ ... pardon01:44
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edsonintelikey, where if it finds the screens of usplash?01:45
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wepihasomeone must know how to enable 'Shared Rear/Line-In' switch in kmix?01:45
intelikeyedson you know,  i don't know...     sorry.01:45
meuhlolhi all01:46
intelikeywepiha crimsun's the man01:46
wepihaintelikey: thanks aye!01:46
wepihacrimsun: home?01:46
tamsis there a way to issue a command that is effectively "please remove all packages that ubuntu-desktop depends on but please keep ones that are dependencies and I'd also like tomboy left on the system"? :)01:46
intelikeytams don't ask much, do ya...01:47
Jemidonlol never,01:47
tams:P01:48
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intelikeytams   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3818801:48
intelikeyhave fun01:48
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tamsyeeeah :D01:49
tamsthx01:49
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intelikeytams you can compair that with kubuntu-desktop's deps and see what "not to remove"   :)))01:50
intelikeyhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3818901:50
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intelikeyjust in case you are interested .01:50
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tamsrighty, thanks01:51
intelikeyof course if i wasn't so lazy i could script that for you in about the time it would take to paste both of those ....01:53
intelikeybut i don't want to think today...01:54
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tamshacked up a script for that, but thanks01:56
tamsso I just remove the diffs with apt-get now?01:56
VerWolF ?01:56
VerWolFHi all01:57
tamsoh, its some manual editing :\01:57
tamstoo01:57
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tamsintelikey: http://tams.hu/rem.html <- these are the diff minus the packages I'd like to keep. But when I issue the command apt-get tells me it will remove a whole lot of k-packages, so I think it wants my whole kde, the house and the car too02:03
intelikeytams something like.      for P in `cat ubuntu-desktop.deps` ;do cat kubuntu-desktop.deps |02:03
intelikeygrep -q $P || echo $P ;done02:03
intelikeyerr one line.02:03
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intelikeysudo apt-get remove $(for P in `cat ubuntu-desktop.deps` ;do cat kubuntu-desktop.deps | grep -q $P || echo $P ;done)    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<02:06
tamsyeah, same result as the one I've got02:06
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tamsAnd it still wants to kill my kde02:06
intelikeydid you install kubuntu-desktop   or   kde  ?02:07
intelikeythe deps are different02:07
tamswell, this system started as kubuntu, so kubuntu-desktop02:08
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tamsand if I isse an apt-get remove with the packages that one-liner gives apt-get says it will remove all adept, etc.02:08
intelikeytam try this...        for P in `cat ubuntu-desktop.deps` ;do cat kubuntu-desktop.deps | grep -q $P || sudo apt-get remove $P ;done02:08
[EgO] tams and Whiz2__ : I do it! =)02:08
tamsk02:08
intelikeyback later maybe.02:09
tams[EgO] : congrats!02:09
[EgO] tams and Whiz2__ : I do it myself =)02:09
tamsk bye02:09
tamsoops02:09
Whiz2__[EgO] : congratulations glad you got it02:10
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aaroncampbellIs anyone else having problems with Thunderbird shutting down randomly (when I'm not even using it)?  It's REALLY frustrating, especially when it happens while I'm not home, because mail doesn't get sorted into folders, so ALL my mail is retrieved by my Moto Q.02:10
[EgO] Im going sleep. 04 am on my clock. Bye all:)02:12
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chaoticwhen u install a game with  wine where  does it put the exe at02:13
tams~/.wine/drive_c ...02:15
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chaoticso that   would  be usr/bin/02:15
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tamsrather /home/chaotic/.wine/drive_c/...02:16
tamsi suppose02:16
chaoticthnx02:17
tamsnp02:17
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chaotictheresno wine folder in home/chaotic02:18
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tamsdot wine, ergo ".wine"02:18
naught101does anyone know how to stop "guidance-power-manager" from starting on boot02:19
naught101?02:19
robotpokewhat would i use to remap the caps lock to the control key?02:19
tamsls -la /home/chaotic|grep .wine02:19
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tamsrobotpoke: this tells you exactly that: http://www.columbia.edu/~djv/docs/keyremap.html02:20
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robotpoketams: thanks02:23
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cloudernaught101: you could try stopping kde-guidance service from sarting at boot, but I don't know what kind of side effects that might have02:24
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ShockValueany other news binary leeachers besides klibido work well in KDE?  klibido is kinda not doing it for me02:25
intelikeyback eariler maybe...02:26
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dcossoni installed kubuntu with the "alternate installer"... and i get no boot screen;  i get grub's "loading" message, then black screen for about 15-20 seconds then KDM... does anyone know, does the alternate installer not install whatever makes the boot screen happen?02:27
naught101clouder: I think I found it in /usr/share/autostart/02:27
naught101just removed the .desktop02:27
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intelikey!usplash02:27
ubotuTo select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork02:27
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Stantonis it possible to run two os's at one time on same screen with out Virulaiztion?02:30
csatlose_hello, can anyone see my messages?02:30
Stantonyes csatlose_02:30
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csatlose_I'm looking for help on starting external hd with linux cd02:30
chaoticineed to be root so i can install  nvidia drivers  how can i do that02:31
intelikeyStanton i dont see how02:31
ExpectoStanton: I doubt that02:31
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chaoticcan anyone tell me how to be root02:31
csatlose_chaotic type sudo -s02:31
intelikey!sudo02:31
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.02:31
ryanakcaWhy can I only have one reiserfs partition in my LVM? After create one, all the free space afterwards becomes 'unusable'...02:31
chaoticno because after i run sudo nvidia.run  it needs root admin also02:32
chaoticnot jjust a one line thing02:33
intelikeyryanakca primary limit ?02:33
csatlose_hi, do you know if it is possible to startup kubuntu on an external hd from a cdrom02:33
intelikeyryanakca i think linux only allows 4 primary partitions pre disk02:33
tamschaotic: sudo bash ;)02:33
intelikeyper02:34
Expectocsatlose_ i think it's possible w/o a cdrom02:34
intelikeytams no sudo -i02:34
ryanakcaintelikey: it's the only partition in the LVM, and I can create 3 ext3 patitions other wise02:34
tams'kay, one more thing I learned :)02:34
intelikeyryanakca then sounds like a bug02:34
csatlose_expecto: my pc won't boot USB, so I thought I would be able to give a startup parameter in cd boot02:34
Expectocsatlose_ I know that DamnSmallLinux has that option...but on an HD I guess that isn't quite what you're going for02:35
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MarcCis there a "character map" equivalent in Kubuntu?02:36
MarcCoh...character map...heh02:36
MarcC:P nvm02:36
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intelikeygrub; whether it's on hd cd or thumb drive is still just grub and is as weak as the bios... if bios can't boot it, then grub can't boot it piriod02:37
rayluafter pressing start or install Kubuntu on the livecd, I get a blinking cursor and two lines at the bottom fo my screen02:37
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rayluInt 14: CR2 cf800000  err 00000000 EIP c020c384...etc02:38
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intelikeynow if you make a place for the kernel  "a boot partition maybe"   the linux once booted can mount just about any fs02:38
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Whiz2___ok well umm... that was just interesting02:38
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tamsWhiz2___: you're maturing. I see you're growing underscores.02:39
intelikeyheh02:39
Whiz2___ran the LiveCD for feisty on the computer I'm thinking of installing it on, and tried the manual settings...  my ENTIRE network went down til i renewed my ISP IP address02:39
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Stantonhow would i reinstall linux with out unpartitioning and then installing on emty partition for i dont know my Vista partition name02:39
Whiz2I just got shorter ;-)02:39
ExpectoWhiz2, don't install it...obviously02:39
Whiz2or not02:39
Stantoni just used guaded most free thingy02:39
tamsFirst shave. :)02:39
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Whiz2but but but i LIKE it!02:40
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tamsWhiz2: I suppose that you can't blame that on Kubuntu :)02:40
ExpectoWhiz2...and if it kills your network?02:40
Whiz2well as you can see the network is back, buti still have no access02:40
ExpectoStanton, I have no clue what you just said02:40
Whiz2on that comp anyway02:40
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Stantoni never do allso!02:41
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Expectowow02:41
intelikeyStanton "manually setup the partitions"   option in the installer02:41
Stantonguess i ask my friend whom likes linux02:41
Stantonok what would i do i nthere?02:41
raylumanually set up the partitions :P02:42
Stantonis there instructions on internet?02:42
rayluyou should be able to identify your vista drive02:42
rayluby the size and the fact that it's ntfs02:42
Stantonhow?02:42
Stantonoh02:42
ExpectoStanton: if you know the sizes of your partitions you can figure out which is which and which you need to format02:42
Expectothat too02:42
Expectoforgot about ntfs02:42
Stantoni have two 10gbs02:42
Stantonand one 230gb02:42
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Stanton...02:42
Stantonand two 5gb02:42
intelikeyStanton your windows fs will be makred  NTFS  ...02:43
Expectois the 230 your vista one?02:43
Stantonyes02:43
Expectojust don't mess w/ that one02:43
Stantoni just let linux acesses it02:43
Stantonwell to run programs02:43
Stantonlol02:43
Stantonok02:43
Stantonsoo basicly install on et3?02:43
Stantonw/e02:43
Expectoindeed02:44
Stantonok sounds easy02:44
rewolfawe02:44
rewolfawe02:44
rewolfawe02:44
aaroncampbellIs anyone else having problems with Thunderbird shutting down randomly (when I'm not even using it)?  It's REALLY frustrating, especially when it happens while I'm not home, because mail doesn't get sorted into folders, so ALL my mail is retrieved by my Moto Q.02:44
Stantoni should be back on linux then02:44
rayluafter pressing start or install Kubuntu on the livecd, I get a blinking cursor and two lines at the bottom fo my screen; if I turn acpi off, it works but is painfully slow02:44
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aaroncampbellThe last thing I remember doing to my system is installing Google Desktop.  Does anyone know of any problems with Google Desktop and Thunderbird?02:44
Stantonand its 64bit ^^02:44
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rayluo.0?? google desktop for nix?02:44
Expectoraylu, i'm thinking the same thing02:44
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tamsyes, it's true :)02:45
aaroncampbellraylu: yep02:45
rayluhttp://desktop.google.com/linux/index.html02:45
rayluomg. wtf!02:45
chaotichow do i exit xserver02:45
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rayluchaotic, why?02:45
aaroncampbellDoesn't have the sidebar and widgets, but it DOES do all the searching, etc02:45
chaoticNVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run02:45
chaoticnvidia installer asking me to02:45
rayluchaotic, ctrl+alt+f102:46
raylulogin, sudo killall kdm02:46
rayluthen ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run02:46
raylubut i dont recommend doing that02:46
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rayluas it's better to install nvidia drivers from the repos02:46
tamsaaroncampbell: beagle does the same, doesn't it?02:46
Expectoaaroncampbell, that's a bore then02:46
rayluso basically...its locate with a google gui02:47
aaroncampbelltams: yes, this is very similar, but Google seems to be simpler, and more powerful02:47
tamsi see02:47
raylu!beagle02:47
ubotuServices to index files for fast searching include: Beagle (front-ends: beagle, catfish, gnome-main-menu, mozilla-beagle for !GNOME; kerry, kio-beagle for !KDE; beaglefs for !CLI) - Tracker (tracker-search-tool, libdeskbar-tracker for GNOME; tracker-utils for CLI) - Strigi (strigi-applet, strigi-client for KDE, strigi-utils for CLI) - Kat (for KDE) - Pinot (and pinot-applet for GNOME) - Doodle (for CLI)02:47
aaroncampbellraylu: if locate could search your imap E-Mail accounts, etc ;)02:47
rayluo.0...02:48
raylui suppose it'd be useful if I had more files on my nix drive02:48
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rayluso, can anoyone answer my question/help me?02:48
Stantonoh02:49
intelikeyraylu repete it for me02:49
Stantonis it possible to install linux while in virual os and install on the real hd?02:49
raylu[19:44:20]  <raylu> after pressing start or install Kubuntu on the livecd, I get a blinking cursor and two lines at the bottom fo my screen; if I turn acpi off, it works but is painfully slow02:49
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intelikeyraylu sounds like the cd is hosed,  or possably out of ram condition but you probably have more than 192m ram02:50
tamsStanton: if by virtual os you mean live cd then of course02:50
aaroncampbellintelikey: it also searches your web history, your gmail if you want, and cab combine your local results into a standard Google search (so you get Web and Local results together)02:51
intelikeyaaroncampbell i don't have web history02:51
Stantonby with out booting up into cd and staying in os and useing virualiztion02:51
Stantonlike microsoft virual pc02:51
Stantonand installl on the real hd and partition02:51
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tamsI can't really folow you02:52
Stanton..02:52
Stantonok02:52
intelikeyaaroncampbell and what you are describing sound like "bloat" gone to seed again...  :)02:52
chaoticsome reason was still  saying i had xserver on02:52
Stantonlets say i start linux into virual pc and tell it to install on to the REAL harddrive with out even rebooting and booting into the os it self02:52
rayluactually...it seems to be fine now...02:52
Stantonkinda02:52
tamsthe thought of google stuff always wakes the paraniod in me02:52
raylunow I need to get a DLink G-120 USB wireless adapter running02:53
tamsbut nowadays you just can't escape using the services of thos guys02:53
Stantonindeed.02:53
Stantonlike microsoft.02:53
Stantoncant play good games with out em02:53
Whiz2__well the DHCP worked for the wired router without screwing up the network... YAY!02:53
Stantononly good game that i was able to play on linux was half life 2 and flightgear.. soo guess be "games"02:54
tamsWhiz2__: congrats :)02:54
ExpectoStanton, the only game worth playing is Neverwinter Nights, and that's linux-capable02:54
tamswow, that was religious :D02:54
Stantonit is?02:54
Stanton1 or two02:54
Stantoni only have 102:54
Stanton..02:54
tamsum, that was for nwn02:55
Stantonsoo 102:55
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Stanton..02:55
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tamsbut I always thought Chicken Invaders 2 iz da shit02:55
Whiz2__now the question is whether or not i can resize my NTFS partition without losing/corrupting any of the data on it...02:55
Stantonlol02:55
phoenixzHi there, I am using SVK and whenever I use svk status /usr and then I press <TAB>, I get this error: "bash: /usr/bin/svk-completion.pl: No such file or directory" What is this about? I just want auto completion, thats it..02:55
tamsWhiz2__: only pqmagic does that well02:55
intelikey!language02:55
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.02:55
Stantondefine "family"02:56
Stanton...02:56
Stantonfor my family any thing gose.. o.o02:56
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tamsStanton: words that MTV doesn't censor02:56
Stantongo'se02:56
Stantonohh02:56
Stanton...02:56
Stantonneat02:56
tamsintelikey: sorry if _that_ was offensive :)02:56
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Whiz2__tams: where can i install that from?02:57
tamsum, IsoHunt :(02:57
rasa$50 via paypal, if someone can help me get Kubuntu to use 1920x1200 on my inspiron 1705(9400) (I've spent *HOURS* and am ready to give up!)02:57
Starn_meh02:57
Starn_my comp kicked me off02:58
Starn_o.o02:58
Starn_see why i want linux?02:58
intelikeyStanton if you need a better descriptive term.  how about, "don't say anything that would imbaress a sunday school teacher"  then you got it covered.02:58
Starn_...02:58
herokubuntu seems to have an issue with my media keys (inspiron 1200).  when i hit page down it turns down the volume sometimes instead of paging down. anyone have a link to where i might fix that once and for all?02:58
Starn_oh..02:58
Starn_well shoot..02:58
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Starn_that be every thing that procceses in my mind..02:58
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hero!keyboard02:59
ubotuTo find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts02:59
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Starn_gah dangit.. i dont remmber were my comp installed my os's02:59
Whiz2__Why don't i just use Partition magic for windows? ;-)03:00
herohmm, that wasn't helpful03:00
hero!mediakeys03:00
ubotuKeyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net03:00
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tamsWhiz2__: that's pqmagic afaik :)03:01
wepihahero: you may want to run `xev` and press the offending keys03:01
intelikeyhero find what you want ?03:01
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herointelikey: i'll try what i've found and see what happens03:01
runleveltennight all.03:01
herothanks03:01
herowepiha: k03:01
intelikeyrunlevelten03:02
wepihahero: you can read what 'keysym:' they provide and remap accordingly03:02
herowepiha: it doesn't do anything03:02
Starn_ookay heres my question03:02
wepihahero: run in konsole ;)03:02
herooh03:02
heroright, i knew that03:02
Starn_if i was to start linux into an virual pc program and try to install it from there would that work?03:02
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wepihapage up and page down produce 'next' and 'prior' on my system03:03
Starn_nvm dosnt work sys i am installing is 6403:03
Starn_...03:03
mileshello?03:03
milescan yall hear me03:03
intelikeyStarn_ you have waited long enough you could have tested to see by now....03:03
Starn_ and sys the vpc is on is 3203:03
tamsmiles: pong03:03
Starn_lol03:03
rayluhow would i get to smb://foor from the konsole?03:03
mileshey this is my first time using irc03:04
heroyeah, i don't get output like that at all03:04
Starn_kinda03:04
milesthis shit is tight!03:04
Starn_i was installing microsoft virual pc03:04
Starn_when i first asked.03:04
heroor wait, yes i do.03:04
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wepihams viral pc (reg) (tm)03:04
heroget the same thing as you, wepiha03:04
runleveltenmiles: consider roughage.03:04
runlevelten(or prunes)03:04
wepihahero: ok. now consider the offending keys03:04
milesi dont get it03:04
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milesyo yo yo wassup?!03:05
phoenixzI want to modify some partitions.. What program is best used for that? I heard that gparted is good but its gnome, is there a KDE version for it?03:05
tamsrunlevelten: :D03:05
milesqparted03:05
runlevelten;)03:05
Starn_would you guys recumind 64bit linux or 32bit linux? i can run ether one03:05
tamsphoenixz: stick with gparted :)03:05
milesim runnin 64bit right now, no difference noticed03:05
runleveltenStarn_: what you using the machine for?03:05
Starn_stuff03:05
Starn_some games03:05
mileslaff03:06
Starn_work sorta03:06
Starn_and python programing03:06
intelikeyrunlevelten i'm jelous  my system only has runlevels 0 through 903:06
wepihaStarn_: personally, I use 64 bit for a minor performance increase. although it can be tricky getting some 32 bit apps running (eg: wine, flash etc)03:06
runleveltenI'd stick with 32bit, tbh.03:06
tamsStarn_: 32bit and you won't have problems with flash, etc03:06
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milesflash doesnt work for 64bit linux?03:06
phoenixztams, Isnt it possible to rewrite gparted so it also works under KDE? Like.. kparted? I mean, all it needs to change is that it should use the Qt libraries.. and obviously I am thinking too simple here :)03:06
Starn_how long untell flash gets 64bit?03:06
Starn_nope it dosnt03:06
wepihamiles: it does03:06
Starn_i did have worken linux03:06
Starn_it dose!?03:06
Starn_how?03:06
milespheonix: its called qparted03:07
Starn_wait ill ask when i get linux worken agen03:07
Whiz2__how good is qtparted as resizing NTFS partitions?03:07
wepihausing nspluginwrapper03:07
wepiha!flash03:07
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash03:07
tamsphoenixz: yeah, qparted it is, but gparted is definitely better03:07
miles!flash03:07
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runleveltenintelikey: mine actually goes up to eleven03:08
milesirc is crazy03:08
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runleveltenhaving fun miles?03:08
Starn_ god i am loveing google bookmarks for this stuff03:08
milesyea its aight03:08
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runleveltengood stuff :)03:08
milesi never got my wireless working with kubunutu03:08
phoenixztams, meaning they are NOT the same project then?03:09
tamsphoenixz: yepp03:09
milesso instead, i bought a wrt54gs router, flashed it with dd-wrt, and now i have a wireless bridge03:09
runleveltenright, sleep for me. I am just all partied out with spending my saturday night in IRC xD03:09
intelikeyrunlevelten heh  i just added 10 11 12  so i have  bakers dozen now  :)03:09
mileso shoot, i just installed eclipse03:09
runleveltenYou can't go up to twelve - it'll never take the strain!03:10
mileseclipse > jbuilder03:10
tamsrunlevelten: yeah, fuel my depression for staying home working... deadlines are wonderful03:10
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runleveltentams: gotta love em03:10
runleveltenmiles, for java?03:10
milesyea03:11
heroso where do i configure the type of keyboard in k?03:11
rayluo.003:11
runleveltenHow are you feeling about netbeans at the moment?03:11
milesi prefer eclipse03:11
raylui can't access a windows share witih smb://03:11
runleveltenIt's getting amazing these days - a real turnaround03:11
mileso really?03:11
raylui see the files but it won't let me copy/use them03:11
Starn_how would i trick virtual pc to think its running on 64bit so i can install on 64bit.. for i have 64bit proccesor but os running virtual pc is 32bit and i dont know how to update vista to 64bit03:11
runleveltenyeah03:11
raylunor do i know how to get to smb:// in the konsole03:11
phoenixzI have another problem.. I had a harddrive mounted, and I was removing all its contents with rm -rf.. halfway, rm suddenly suddenly throws in a number of "permission denied" and then "Input / Output" error.. then an ls of the mounted directory gives me this: "?--------- ? ?    ?       ?                ? VolGroup00-home"03:12
milesthats cool, ill check it out, ive been doing a lot of java development at work03:12
milespwnd03:12
phoenixzDies anybody knows what this means?03:12
phoenixzDies = Does03:12
tamsraylu: thos are kioslaves, if I remember correctly they dont work in console03:12
runleveltenAn eclipse guy myself for the Java - so give it a shot, you might come to the same sort of conclusion03:12
rayluphoenixz, fs type?03:12
herook, so which of the dell layouts would be for a laptop?03:12
raylutams, in that case, how do I mount a network share? there's a smbfs, right?03:12
tamsraylu: make a separate account with a password just for accessing the shares and enter that credentials at the prompt03:12
phoenixzraylu, ext3.. the drive was LVM volume, mounted from /dev/mapper/VolGroup0003:13
raylumake a seperate account and...what prompt?03:13
milesraylu: you need smbclient to access smb shares03:13
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runleveltenright, sleep sleep sleep. later folks03:13
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rayluphoenixz, I think you removed the equivalent of the master file table03:13
tamsraylu: I mean, on the win box, make an smb or whatever account with the pass. Weird, but this was the solution over here.03:13
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phoenixzraylu, you mean superblock?03:13
Starn_i lost my self with my question..03:14
phoenixzraylu, How could I remove that?03:14
raylusure; i dont know ext3 :P03:14
raylutams, ...so I have to install samba?03:14
tamsraylu: when you click on files do you get a password prompt?03:14
rayluactually, i had a password prompt from something03:14
gumjohello, is there some app that will recognize multiple copies of same pictures and delete them?03:14
tamsyeah, there's some weridness around passwords03:14
miles.......03:14
mileso jeez, starn left03:15
herothere's got to be a way to make it so the page down doesn't trip the function key.03:15
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tamsmake an account on the win box, like smb, add a pass and enter that user+pass at the prompt03:15
heroi tried to change the kb layout to dell dimension laptop03:15
herobut that didn't do any good03:15
raylutams, why can't I just use my raylu account?03:15
intelikeyhero try 101 key lyout03:16
heroyeah, i did03:16
heroit still tries to make volume go down with the page down key03:16
tamsraylu: no clue. I've lost a few hair at home until I tried this stupid solution and it worked.03:16
rayluo.003:16
heroi'm not as interested in enabling the media keys as i am getting page down to do its job03:16
rayluimma try mounting it as smbfs03:16
milesdoes anyone here play any good FPS's on kubuntu?03:16
intelikeyhero hmmm check the kde hotkeys, see that volume control is not bound to pgdn03:16
herointelikey: in shortcut schemes?03:17
intelikeymiles is there such a thing as a "good FPS"  ?03:17
tamsintelikey: some define that as suicide03:18
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milescounter-strike source03:18
intelikeyhero i don't have kde  i thought it was kcontrol03:18
milescounter-strike source = best fps03:18
heroyou're in kubuntu and you don't have kde?03:18
milesme? i have kde03:18
tamsmiles: that was a statement, not a question there :)03:18
intelikeytams killing a pig ?03:18
tamsthat was rude!03:19
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milestams: do you play any games on linux?03:19
intelikeysui cide ???03:19
intelikeyoh  never mind.03:19
erovwolfenstein: enemy territory, open arena03:19
leileilolaka best game ever03:19
leileiloler i mean03:19
milesopen arena, im a google it real quick03:19
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tamsmiles: no, at one time I've got a life and only work with computers. (pretend that I'm not on IRC)03:19
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erovits quake 3 arena.. open source maps03:20
heroso someone who is using kde... is there a volume up/down shortcut place?03:20
milestams: hate life?03:20
tamstams: ow, c'mon, I love it03:21
milesdude, im so new to irc right now, i have no clue whats going on03:21
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intelikeymiles it is hard to read the inflection in the typing at first isn't it03:22
tamsmiles: well, it's always this chaotic but you'll get used to it03:22
mileshello03:22
mileswoops03:22
milessweet03:23
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phoenixzWhenever I press <TAB> in bash while using svk, I get this error: "bash: /usr/bin/svk-completion.pl: No such file or directory"  How do I fix this?03:23
milesmake the file03:23
intelikeylooks like a perl script to me03:24
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tamsmaybe reinstall the package?03:24
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vzduchquick question: after adding an entry to Grub by hand, is it necessary to run 'update-grub' or something?03:24
intelikeyis  libvcp-dest-svk-perl   installed ?03:24
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tamsvzduch: yeah03:24
vzduchok03:24
vzduchsudo?03:24
tamsit helps :)03:25
intelikeyvzduch huh ?   no if you add an entry it's there.03:25
tamsi think he meant editing the .conf03:25
vzduchno, the menu.lst03:25
intelikeyvzduch yeah it's there.03:26
phoenixzintelikey, actually, no.. if I were to install SVK from aptget, I would get the very old 1.08 version, and I need 2.01, so I installed it manually with perl.. Now, I will install that package but that will also install the old SVK again.. Is there a way to install libvcp-dest-svk-perl without the svk package it depends on?03:26
intelikeyvzduch you don't need to do anything to activate it03:26
vzduchok03:26
intelikeyphoenixz but installing the package along with it will probably solve your probalm03:26
intelikeyproblem03:27
intelikeybalm  heh03:27
phoenixzintelikey, yeah, it would fix it I think.. only I do NOT want to have the old svk 1.08 again, it has a number of problems I can not work with03:27
intelikey"is there no balm in kubuntu"03:27
phoenixzintelikey, so could I install a package without its dependancy?03:28
milesis it better to install nvidia driver from their site or through apt-get03:28
miles?03:28
phoenixzmiles, you have to use the restricted-manager to do this actually03:28
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intelikeyphoenixz then build that package too.   and  libuuid-data-perl libvcp-perl also i guess03:28
milesare you guys going to hate on me if i use non-free drivers?03:28
ardchoillemiles: You can do it from the command line03:28
ardchoille!nvidia | miles03:29
ubotumiles: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:29
phoenixzmiles, do NOT try to install the driver using apt-get, it will install a package that leaves a file behind that later on when you do use restricted-manager, you can not install the driver anymore until you remove that file manulally03:29
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chaotici think i got myself  into a problem03:29
tamsmiles: Stallmans going to slaughter you with an axe, but currently his list is very long so no worries03:29
milesok good03:29
milesi hear that guy loves freedom03:29
intelikeyphoenixz if you install without the deps it will totally hose the package manager until you remove it or install the deps.03:29
phoenixzintelikey, that sounds sweet!03:29
herooh great03:30
heronow i can't use ctrl-alt-arrow to move between desktops03:30
intelikeyphoenixz so build the source like you did with svk03:30
phoenixzintelikey, is there also a way to disable that <TAB> thing for program options?03:30
milesmy stomach hurts03:30
herothis is obviously worse than page down not working03:30
intelikeyummmm  within svk   idk03:30
herodoes anyone know how to fix this?03:30
phoenixzintelikey, well, this looks like an kubuntu option actually.. svk could never do this03:31
heroall i did was change the keyboard type03:31
heroand i changed it back03:31
phoenixzspecially since I type svk <tab> and then it tries to get the svk options..03:31
phoenixzhero, and then.. ?03:31
chaoticmy computer wont  go back  to 1024  by 768 its stuck at 640  by 48003:31
rayluso, i understand that ndiswrapper-common's "ndiswrapper" is just a wrapper script to call ndw versions...but how do i get these versions? currently, running ndiswrapper gives me "no versions of ndiswrapper found!"03:31
chaoticwhat can i do03:31
herophoenixz: and then i can't use the keyboard to move between virtual desktops03:31
intelikeyphoenixz not *ubuntu  but  bash   and there is a #bash if you want to ask there03:31
phoenixzintelikey, I didnt know that was a bash option.. well, learning something new every day03:32
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phoenixzintelikey, found it, I think.. the apt-get left a file behind in a bash-autocompletion.d dir..03:33
intelikeyok.  makes sense03:33
phoenixzhero, thats crap yeah.. do you know what keys exactly don't work?03:34
heronah, i got it03:34
heropage down still screwed though03:34
heroif i could just find some docs on how to assign-reassign keys03:35
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herothat is, without running a debug tool03:35
phoenixzintelikey, worsk!03:35
intelikeyworks03:35
tamshero: klineaconfig if I remember correcly but I couldn't get that working03:35
intelikeynever seen a typo before ?03:35
phoenixzhero, keymapper package maybe?03:36
herotams: don't have any program by that name03:36
tamssorry, klineakconfig03:37
erovkeymapper does exist... ?03:37
erovhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/utils/keymapper03:37
herotams: yeah i don't have that03:37
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herowhat is yapps2-runtime?03:37
tamsi't in the standard reps..03:37
tams*it's in the standard reps03:38
erov"Yet Another Python Parser System" runtime?03:38
herorepos, you mean? :D03:38
herook erov03:38
tamswhatever...03:38
erovi dont know if thats quite it but it's called 'keymapper'03:38
chaoticis there any way to completely exit xserver03:40
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chaoticand  go to root03:40
intelikeychaotic sure sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop03:40
intelikeychaotic login and   sudo -i03:40
herook keymapper is installed but i can't seem to find it anywhere03:42
herois it a gui tool?03:42
heroor cli?03:42
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nzk|irssiI'm about to restart X03:43
nzk|irssiWish me luck03:43
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intelikeygood luck to me03:43
herothere's no keymapper manpage, infopage03:44
chaoticit took me out of  xserver but didnt  give me a prompt03:44
intelikeychaotic then you have frame buffering issues03:44
chaotichow do i get out of xserver and get a prompt03:45
intelikeychaotic alt+ctrl+f103:45
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chaoticyeah but that doesnt close xserver definetely03:45
raylulogin and use "sudo killall kdm"03:45
intelikeywell put the two togather03:45
chaoticnvidia   wants me to completely close it03:45
intelikeyor can you not do that ?03:45
rayluwait a sec chaotic...didn't I mention installing nvidia drivers from the repos?03:46
heroi guess i'm out of luck on this problem03:46
chaoticdidnt work03:46
tamshero: what about lineak?03:46
herolooks like you have to install a bunch of programs and a daemon for that03:47
herofsck it03:48
intelikeytams still kinda sounds like kmix is binding to pgdn   check within kmix menu of config options03:48
tamscorrect03:48
wepihahero: is this the changing desktop hotkey not working or keyboard layout from before?03:48
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intelikeyerr sorry hero03:48
tamsintelikey: ?03:48
tams:)03:48
herowepiha: the problem is that the page down key, when used in conjunction with the function key is supposed to turn the volume down. in windows, that is.03:48
intelikeywell your names are the same shortness03:48
intelikeyyou're both four letter words03:49
heroin kde/gnome/xfce, if i hit the pagedown it intermittently turns down the volume, and if i just hit the function key, it turns down the volume03:49
tamsI'm flattered03:49
wepihahero: have you tried changing your keyboard layout in system settings?03:49
heroyes, i have done that03:50
heroit makes no difference03:50
wepihahero: ah03:50
intelikeyhero is that ati chip sets  ?      i know that issue...03:50
heroit's an intel video card03:50
heroi don't see what the video card has to do with the keyboard layout03:50
intelikeyno the mobo    is it ati ?03:50
heroi dunno03:51
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intelikeylshw | less03:51
herobut when this laptop had windows on it, the function keys were not buggy03:51
wepihadoes anyone know if you need to restart xorg after changing your xkb layout?03:51
intelikeyhero heh i didn't run windows to see if it worked...  first hour  it got  cat /dev/zero > /dev/hda03:51
wepihathat may be another setp03:52
wepihas/setp/step/03:52
intelikeywepiha i think it can hot swap  but it's not a bad idea to reset X03:52
herointelikey: that doesn't help. there aren't any ati products on this machine03:52
heroso it's not hardware related03:53
intelikeyhero ok    that's not it then03:53
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herothe type of keyboard isn't specified in the kernel config, right?03:53
wepihahero: its setup in /etc/init.d/xorg.conf03:53
herooh god03:54
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herothis shouldn't be this difficult, heh03:54
intelikeyhey some times your house burns up, and; some times your house burns down.03:54
wepihalol @ intelikey03:54
chaoticyeah  didnt get a prompt after killall kdm03:54
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herowepiha: xorg.conf isn't stored there on this machine03:55
herousr/lib?03:55
wepihain /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:55
intelikeychaotic i told you after you kill ?dm    hit  alt+ctrl+f103:55
chaotici did03:55
intelikeytry f203:55
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heroit's just pc104 in xorg, wepiha03:56
intelikeyif there is no login prompt in tty1 or tty2 you have frame buffer issues to add to your list of things wrong with the system03:56
wepihahero: ok, what brand/model laptop are you using?03:56
herodell inspiron 120003:56
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herowepiha: i have a feeling there's no code for that keyboard03:58
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ZombieHello?03:58
tamsZombie: yes, you can.03:59
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ZombieHm?03:59
tamshai03:59
ZombieI need to speak to some package maintainers.03:59
ZombieParticularly, with Vavoom.03:59
wepihahero: ok. add a new line and comment out the old Driver. change it to Driver "xkb"04:00
Biovorehero: you tring to get the special keys like the play button to work in X?04:00
Zombieer04:00
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ZombieParticularly, with PrBoom.04:00
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herowepiha: it is that driver already04:00
hermanhi04:00
heroer04:00
heroxkb, not kb?04:00
heroer kbd04:00
wepihaopps typo04:01
heroi don't want to screw myself out of a working x configuration, ya know04:01
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wepihacp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.working ;)04:01
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ZombieI'm getting a Xorg Lockup under PrBoom04:02
herowepiha: so what driver do you want me to use?04:02
intelikeyZombie  PrBoom ?04:02
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ZombieThe Doom Port.04:02
ZombiePrboom is locking up X04:02
chaoticthis thing is so frustrating04:02
Zombie(and KDE)04:03
wersdo you think that kde-core is better than Kubuntu?04:03
intelikeyhmmm oh.   ok.04:03
ZombieI need a maintainer to rebuild a deb for prboom 2.4.704:03
wepihahero: make sure your using kbd under section "InputDevice" where the Indentifier is something like "Keyboard0"04:03
intelikeywers kubuntu installs kde-core04:03
wersI mean, vanilla kde04:03
herothere is no keyboard004:03
wersthe kde-core without kubuntu packages04:04
heroare you sure you know what you're doing?04:04
intelikeywers   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3819304:04
intelikeywers i'd install kde rather than kde-core  but that's just me.   actually i wouldn't install kde* at all....  seeing that it's not installed04:05
wersyeah.. I know that already.. I just heard that slackware's kde is better than kubuntu's and that slackware is more of vanilla kde04:05
chaoticctnrl alt  f1 then sudo killall  kdm04:06
chaoticscreen  goes black after that04:06
chaoticno more prompt04:06
wersI guess, for less-advanced users, kubuntu would be the best choice04:06
chaoticyeah like me04:06
intelikeyhero there is probably something like     Section "InputDevice"04:07
intelikey        Identifier      "Generic Keyboard"04:07
intelikeyif i had to guess04:07
vzduchZombie: mail Ubuntu MOTU Developers <ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com>04:07
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darhoHola a todos.04:08
chaoticim searching repos04:09
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mileshow do you find the restricted drivers manager in kde?04:09
chaoticwhich drive shoulld a geforce4   mx 4000  have04:09
heroyes, there is04:09
herothe file is here in front of me04:09
vzduchmiles: Run Command -> restricted-manager04:09
intelikeymiles use the konsole ?04:09
herowhere's a list of drivers?04:09
intelikeyhero did you make a backup of the config ?04:10
heroof course i will04:10
heroi'm just not going to do anything until i get more info04:10
vzduchchaotic: iirc, GF4 MX* is not supported by the current driver, so you'll want nvidia-glx-legacy04:10
intelikeyhero the list is displayed for you to choose from if you      sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg04:10
redshadowherocould anyone help me set up a printer?04:11
herowhat does the -plow switch mean?04:11
intelikeymean p low04:11
intelikeyas opposed to p high04:12
manowarp=priority04:12
vzduchthe opposite of -phigh, I guess.. CAUTION: this might mess up your keyboard configuration if you use anything other than en_US04:12
heroyeah, i'm not going to touch the file04:12
heroif someone could help me find docs on this, maybe04:12
herobut i'm not going to just screw with it04:12
wepihahero: look in /etc/X11/xkb/rules/xorg.lst04:13
herothank you04:13
milesxorg is mad crazy04:13
tamsredshadowhero: ask the actual question, it draws more attention04:13
intelikeysimple as XFree86 imo04:13
milesi dont like xfree86, not sure why04:13
heroyeah, there's no driver for this inspiron04:14
herojust the 6xxx/8xxx models04:14
heromaybe they are similar, but there is no way to know04:14
chaotichow  do i know whats my identifier04:14
intelikeytest it04:15
chaotichow04:15
redshadowheroalright, I'm trying to set up a xerox workcentre m940 so that the scanner and printer work04:15
wepihaits a good change its a nearer match than pc104 though04:15
herohm04:15
wersguys, synce-kde does not work in feisty but it works in edgy.. are there feisty packages that I can edit to make synce-kde work?04:15
werssynce-kde is one of the most important apps for me.. I tend to use gnome because of gnome's synce04:16
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starnhow do i find out what monitor i use by command line?04:16
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tamsredshadowhero: http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting/Database/XeroxFAQ04:16
starnallso why when i update kubuntu it makes a nother os in boot menu with 16 at end and not 1504:16
milesquestion -- i thought you only had to restart linux after you recompiled the kernel...how come restricted-manager is making me restart after installing nvidia driver?  whats up with that?04:16
starn!nvidia04:17
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:17
starnwoot04:17
redshadowherotams: thanks, I'll have a read.04:17
intelikeystarn updated the kernel04:17
wepihamiles: because your xorg driver needs to be recompiled to match your kernel revision04:17
starnlol i wanted to read that to04:17
starnohh04:17
starnwas testing to see if command would work :D04:17
herofunny how the drivers in that file *closely* match the drivers in kde's layout choices, but the inspiron one is not in the kde layout choices04:17
miles!nvidia04:18
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:18
mileso that is sick04:18
herogosh, i'm just real squeamish about messing with xorg.conf04:18
milessorry, first time in irc <-------------04:18
milesone more question -- are you guys all using konversation?04:18
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intelikeymiles nope04:18
wepihahero: its listed near laptop in system settings04:18
sayersKubuntu supports dual core right?04:18
starnhow do i see what monitor is connected to pc when it dosnt say on the monitor it self04:18
starnyes04:18
starni beleave so04:19
starni run dual04:19
starn...04:19
sayersCould've said all that in one line :)04:19
mileslinux supports as many cores as u can physically build into ur pc04:19
NickPrestamiles, I'm using XChat04:19
milesxchat > konversation??04:19
wepiha!imho04:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about imho - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:20
herowepiha: when you hit apply on that, does it really apply? or do i have to restart x?04:20
sayersmiles: not really :s, in some ways yes , but Konversation runs better in KDE and feels better04:20
herobecause i don't see any difference04:20
mileslike... make -j2 will compile with 2 cores, if u have them04:20
milesoic04:20
milesyea, konversation is aight, its the only irc client ive ever used04:20
wepihahero: well as intelikey put it, its not a bad idea to restart X04:20
heromiles: try the other programs, see what is right for YOU04:20
milesthanks for the advice!04:21
herowepiha: yeah, but it might not work at that point. ugh.04:21
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intelikeymiles irssi  bitchx  xchat  kirc kvirx and many other irc clients04:21
herocan you still restart the xserver with ctrl alt backspace?04:21
sayersWhy can I not play Amarok's Radio Stations it provides?04:21
intelikeyooops kvirv04:21
intelikeyooops kvirc04:21
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wepihahero: its a kde setting at that point!04:21
intelikeyi'll get that right in a minute04:22
herosayers: try #amarok04:22
herowepiha: what do you mean?04:22
Biovoresayers: I think its because kubuntus defaults are out of date and those stations are alive anymore are at a different address/port04:22
herokde writes to xorg.conf?04:22
wepihahero: when you changed the setting in system settings, this is a per-user setting and not system-wide.04:22
herowepiha: well, it doesn't make any difference. page down is still screwed up04:22
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intelikeyhero did you reset X ?04:23
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intelikeyhero changes in xorg.conf only affect new xsessions04:23
herointelikey: well, if i did that, i would have /quit here04:24
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herofine04:24
wepihaha good luck ;)04:24
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heroi almost don't even care, except it's so stressful04:24
intelikeyhero i didn't ask if you were talking on the same box you were working on...04:24
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mileshello?04:25
starnhow do i find out wich video card i use?04:25
wepihahero: hmm that sucks to be stressed...04:25
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intelikeyso no way to know if you reset X or not except ask.04:25
KprHow can I disable alt+ click move? I tried window behavior and guess what? NO CIGAR04:25
herointelikey: alright, fair enough. you never answered why you hang out in kubuntu if you don't even use kde.04:25
starni know its nvidia 6150 but i dont know if its 6150 le.. or not04:25
mileslaff04:25
milesis anyone here running a kde4 build?04:25
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chaoticthank u guys so much04:25
intelikeyhero i'll answer that with a question.   are you sjuesting that i shouldn't ?04:26
NickPrestahero, perhaps he can offer his help to things that aren't disto. specific?04:26
chaoticthat xorg config did it for u04:26
heroNickPresta: the channel is called kubuntu.04:26
chaoticfor me04:26
Sydwould anybody know how to downgrade to 6.10 after a partially failed 7.04 upgrade?04:26
heronevermind04:26
SydI'm having troubles doing it with apt-get04:26
chaoticim  at 1280 by 102404:26
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Sydit seems to be satisfied by all the packages already present04:26
NickPrestahero, so? People that use Debian with XFCE can still help in Kubuntu, for example. Perhaps he likes this channel and the people here?04:26
Kpr?04:26
chaotic4 hrs of troubleshooting finally payed off04:26
draikHow do I make all of the KDE apps default instead of those from GNOME?04:27
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intelikeyNickPresta yeah maybe that's it...04:27
NickPrestalol04:27
intelikeyerr good answer04:27
draikchaotic: After the 1st hour, it better be worth it or for a VERY good cause04:27
NickPrestahey, I don't know why you're here but I'm happy to have you here. =)04:27
heroNickPresta: well, i've asked gnome-related questions in here and was asked to go to #ubuntu or #gnome. it's obvious that the *community* here wants some uniformity.  also, it's pretty frustrating when you have a kde-specific question and the person that answers says "try this, but i don't know because i don't use kde"04:28
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mileshow do u do that04:29
intelikeyNickPresta you don't want to know why i'm here.04:29
milespwn04:29
KprHow can I disable alt+ click move? I tried window behavior and guess what? NO CIGAR04:29
Sydhow comes the link to the know problems page in the topic brings to a site with a certificate mismatch?04:29
intelikey/me04:29
NickPrestahero, without getting into a war with you, I'll just say that this channel and most support channels are filled with people who offer their time and effort free-of-charge because they like to contribute back to a community (sometimes general communities, sometimes specific communities). You don't have to listen to anyone's answers here and as long as people aren't giving you incorrect answers, I see no probl04:30
NickPrestaem with general help04:30
intelikeyKpr hmmm that's an x thang  not a kde thang    i've never tried to disable it, cause it's really useful sometimes04:30
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intelikeyKpr are you sure you want to disable it ?04:31
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KprIt's pretty annoying when I'm using wine programs04:31
milesi am trying to look for 1280 by 1280 image size at google04:31
KprSo yes04:32
intelikeyah wine.   wine might be able to over ride it specificly04:32
KprHow might I go around doing that? Any points in the right direction would be appreciated04:33
KprI have about a thousand bugs now to solve specifically04:33
wepihahero: ctrl-alt-backspace'd your way to success?04:33
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elknof3hi every body04:34
NickPrestahello04:34
mileshello04:34
elknof3i have a question 4 u04:34
milesirc r0x!04:34
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milesok go on04:34
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NickPresta!ask | elknof304:34
ubotuelknof3: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:34
elknof3what works better and faster aiglx or xgl??04:34
Sydhi all04:35
NickPrestaelknof3, which drivers do you use?04:36
milesquestion -- how come beryl kills vista aero04:36
miles?04:36
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werswhat version of ubuntu mepis based on?04:36
Sydyou mean it kills it because it is best?04:37
NickPrestamiles, what do you mean?04:37
Biovoremiles: It does alot more then aero04:37
mileskills = its better then04:37
elknof3wers: 6.06  dapper drake04:37
milesi got vista on my work laptop...weaksauce04:37
elknof3NickPresta: i81004:37
elknof3intel04:37
Sydit would have been fun if installing beryl on a linux on a pc with vista around made aero stop working...04:38
wersokay thanks04:38
elknof3but im working whit aiglx and beryl04:38
elknof3it works perfectly04:38
wersis 6.5 the latest version of mepis?04:39
tamsbye04:39
elknof3wers: i ve downloaded yesterday 6.504:39
vzduchgood night folks :)04:40
elknof3i think its the laste version04:40
elknof3sorry for my english04:40
wersdo you think mepis is somewhat better than kubuntu?04:40
elknof3its just than is not my native language04:40
wersI am a kubuntu user but synce-kde does not work with feisty so I'm thinking of trying another distro04:40
elknof3wers: i dont know i hevent istalled jet04:41
milesxubuntu is aight04:41
elknof3wers: im working whit kubuntu 7.04 feisty04:41
NickPrestamiles, I believe it is a matter of opinion but if I had to pick one reason, I would probably pin Beryl/Compiz/Compiz-Fusion's success on it's open-source philosophy that anyone can write plugins and contribute to changes, etc. I find this helps rapid development more than closing yourself off to the world. What do I know? I don't own a company, let alone Microsoft and I haven't written anything like Compiz.04:41
NickPresta;)04:41
milesi can tell you thought about that one04:42
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milesi feel that beryl really does increase productivity..aero just kinda looks cool04:42
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milesi never find myself using aero features04:42
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NickPrestaWell, I cannot live without the 'transparent-window when your mouse moves onto another window behind it' feature. That and the mini-window display that shows everything on my virtual desktop really helps.04:43
milesi think the cube and the expose-like feature help the most04:44
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theeahelo there04:45
pimpster_mcgeehi04:45
theeaquestion do you know a software that can use yahoo mess features and to use yahoo acounts?04:46
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milesgaim04:47
mileskopete04:47
theeakopete offer only webcam not also voice04:47
theeaand skype ofers only voice04:47
NickPrestaPidgin lacks video conferencing and voice chat, sadly. However, you can still use your Yahoo account. You may consider a Skype + Kopete solution..04:48
theeaso i should search after pidgin soft?04:49
milesskype for linux doesnt do video conf?04:49
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starnhow do i change my device's04:49
theeaskype +kopete i use now but is silly04:49
theeano miles04:49
starnlike in ubuntus gnome's devices manager thingy04:49
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milesinteresting...04:50
NickPrestatheea, I agree that it is a little silly but it's the only solution available at this time, IIRC04:50
theeaok thanks04:50
starnbetter ye after installing gnomes device manger how do i open it for it dose not appare in menu04:51
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K-RyanHi everyone, I'm on my laptop and I'm having trouble with sound.04:52
K-RyanI've checked the stuff in alsamixer, I've even made sure that the sound card is enabled.04:52
milestype "lspci" in konsole04:52
K-RyanThe thing is, when I was running Fluxbuntu, sound worked perfectly.04:52
K-Ryan0000:00:08.0 Multimedia audio controller: ESS Technology ES1978 Maestro 2E (rev 10)04:53
K-RyanBut now in Kubuntu, it refuses to play.04:53
K-RyanLike Amarok and XMMS "play" the file04:53
K-RyanBut I hear nothing04:53
mileshave you checked to make sure its compatible04:54
mileswith kubuntu?04:54
K-RyanWhere would I check that?04:54
K-RyanAnd if it's compatible with Fluxbuntu, it should be compatible with all *buntus shouldn't it?04:54
starn!nvidia04:55
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:55
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starnhow come this is not in menu04:56
starnSystem  Administration  Restricted Devices Manager04:56
K-RyanBecause this is Kubuntu04:56
mileswould google "<<your device name>> <<your ubuntu version..say  7.04>>"04:57
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K-RyanI'm on 6.06, not that it would really make a difference.04:58
starnwell how would i use an restricted device manger?04:58
starnfor i need to enable..04:58
starnam on 7..04:58
K-Ryanstarn: I think you can download it from the repos, but I dunno04:58
K-Ryan7.0404:58
starnyea i did04:58
starnbut it well not list in menu04:58
starnand i dont know how to run04:58
milesopen terminal type "restricted-manager"04:58
K-RyanType the package name into the terminal04:58
starnand am realy new to linux and currently hyper..04:58
milesyou might need to be root04:58
hitmanWillystarn: try kdesu restricted-manager in konsole04:59
starncommand not found04:59
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K-RyanhitmanWilly: You're not experienced with sound issues are you?04:59
starnmaybe i missed type04:59
starnyea not found04:59
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: not really, aside from compiling alsa into the kernel :)04:59
K-RyanhitmanWilly: My sound won't work in Kubuntu =/05:00
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hitmanWillyK-Ryan: do you know the kernel driver for the card?05:00
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: oh, wait, its unmuted right?05:00
K-RyanhitmanWilly: Nope, but I know it's in here because when I use Fluxbuntu, it works05:00
erovyeah it should work k-ryan honestly.. dont know what to tell you.. does it bomb out with errors or does it act like it's playing you just hear nothing05:00
K-RyanhitmanWilly: Right, just no sound plays05:01
K-Ryanerov: The latter05:01
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hitmanWillyK-Ryan: you unmuted it in kmix or alsamixer, right?05:01
erovand you are postive.. on the mixer/mute settings05:01
K-RyanPositively05:01
K-RyanI've tried unmuting everything that is muted05:01
hitmanWillyok, just checking :)05:01
erovis the "led" that you click to mute.. lit or unlit05:02
starnfound my prob05:02
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: and your speakers/headphones are plugged in, right?05:02
erovthat can be confusing..05:02
starnty guys05:02
erovhehe05:02
K-RyanhitmanWilly: It's a laptop05:02
erovKMix05:02
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: k :) just checking everything05:02
K-RyanhitmanWilly: I know, I'm just letting you know05:03
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hitmanWillyK-Ryan: try disabling the kde sound system and see if that helps05:03
K-RyanhitmanWilly: How so?05:03
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hitmanWillyK-Ryan: it won't affect any apps, just the kde system sounds05:04
milesdid you guys know that  wu-tang is making a new cd?05:04
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: its in kcontrol05:04
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trakinashi!05:04
trakinaswhere can I find old kubuntu kernels?05:04
K-RyanHi trakinas!05:04
trakinas2.6.17, for instance05:04
milesk-ryan - go to youtube and see if you can get any sound off a video there05:04
milesi noticed i was able to do that, but i couldnt play a cd05:04
K-Ryanmiles: Don't have flash working >.>05:04
milesoic05:04
milesthats ruff05:04
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: under sound & multimedia05:04
K-RyanYeah, been working on that too05:04
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: uncheck 'enable sound system'05:05
K-RyanI've got a whole lot of nothin'05:05
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: you applied it right?05:05
K-RyanYep05:05
Biovoreyeah.. alot of comerical apps try to use the old OSS interface.. if the KDE arts thing is running.. it locks up the OSS interface to applications can't access it to play sound..05:06
DaSkreechtrakinas: packages.ubuntu.com05:06
hitmanWillysometimes arts likes to grab the sound system for itself05:06
trakinasI LOST THE GAME! (damn)05:06
DaSkreechtrakinas: So I won?05:06
mileshey yall05:06
Biovorewell its a problem with alsa/oss emulation.. and the fact most soundcards dont do hardware mixing..05:06
Biovorecreative cards don't have a problem with this locking..05:07
K-RyanI don't have the luxury of changing and or buying a new card05:07
K-RyanAnd what's worse, Fluxbuntu won't boot from the Live CD..05:07
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: ok, pastebin dmesg05:07
trakinasDaSkreech: thanks!05:08
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trakinasDaSkreech: www.losethegame.com05:08
starnhow do i make kubutu selecte monitor automaticaly?05:08
K-RyanhitmanWilly: It's a lot of I/O errors05:08
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: see if alsa is even initializing, it may have incorrectly id'd the card on install05:09
K-RyanhitmanWilly: How?05:09
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starndo i type sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.orig ?05:11
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: do you have bootsplash setup or are you booting with scrolling text?05:11
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K-RyanhitmanWilly: Boot splash05:12
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: as in do you see the pretty kubuntu logo on startup?05:12
K-Ryanwoo, got flash working05:13
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K-Ryanstill no sound05:13
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: one down05:13
K-RyanIt's a tad laggy watching videos though =/05:13
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: can you pastebin the output of dmesg?05:13
K-RyanYeah hold on, lemme just plug in my charger..05:14
hitmanWillyk05:14
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K-RyanI can't even get the whole thing05:16
K-RyanHow can I dump it to a file?05:16
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: dmesg > <name_of_file>05:16
Biovoredmesg | less05:16
Biovoreto go to a pager..05:16
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hitmanWillyK-Ryan: the > redirects stdout to whatever comes after it05:17
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: or >> to append to a file05:17
K-RyanhitmanWilly: Right05:17
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: bash 101 :)05:18
K-RyanI haven't learned all the tricks to bash05:18
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: that puts you with about 99% of folks out there :P05:18
K-RyanhitmanWilly: Yeah..05:18
K-RyanI'm working on python though05:19
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DaSkreech!commands05:19
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal05:19
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K-Ryanhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m12ab4dc905:19
K-RyanI was recommended against learning C as my first language05:20
K-RyanOr one of the C languages...05:20
K-RyanAnd they said to try python, so python it is05:20
nzkHell no05:22
nzkPython sucks05:22
nzkIt's crap, and it's useless05:22
nzkGo with Perl at least.05:22
nzkI "started" with Python. Biggest mistake of my life.05:22
K-RyanI heard python was better05:22
nzkNow that I am learning C I have to unlearn all these stupid habits.05:22
K-RyanSo obviously it's personal choice05:22
hitmanWillynzk: i started on basic...try unlearning THOSE habits sometime :)05:23
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starn!monitor05:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about monitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:23
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: ok, check if lspci even has it listed05:24
K-RyanIt does05:24
K-Ryan0000:00:08.0 Multimedia audio controller: ESS Technology ES1978 Maestro 2E (rev 10)05:24
starn?05:24
nzkK-Ryan, I heard that the moon is made of cheese, the earth is flat, and that oceans are a conspiracy to make you swim.05:24
K-Ryannzk: I've "heard" from you perl is better05:25
K-Ryan=)05:25
starndose lspci allso list monitor?05:25
starnbrand and model?05:25
hitmanWillystarn: nope, everything on the pci bus05:25
hitmanWillystarn: should list the vid card, tho :)05:25
starnhow do i view what monitor i have?05:25
K-RyanhitmanWilly: At the very end of that, see that logical block error?05:25
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: that's hd issues05:25
K-RyanThis is a laptop05:26
K-RyanThere's nothing above hda05:26
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starnfor its not writen on back of monitor05:27
starnall i know is its dell05:27
K-RyanCheck in System Settings?05:27
hitmanWillyK-Ryan: try modprobe -l and see if anything comes up that looks like drivers for the card05:27
K-RyanOut of all that I did see a media section05:27
milesbye05:27
starnon back i see REV AO3 is that the model its under a small barcode a very small one05:27
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K-Ryanstarn: Most likely05:28
hitmanWillystarn: if it has a serial no., you may be able to google that05:28
starnok05:28
jhutchinsstarn: Go with VESA/Plug-and-play.05:29
jhutchinshitmanWilly: Google wouldn't hit _his_ serial number.05:30
starnwhat do i do when the monitor and display settings thingy says05:30
jhutchinshitmanWilly: Wouldn't distinguish it from any other N-digit number.05:30
starnthe module monitor and display could not be loaded05:30
starnthe diagnostics is: possible reason: an error accured during yyour last kde upgrade leaving an orphaned control module   you have old third part modules lying around05:31
jhutchinsstarn: You can see what the settings are when it's runnign Windows; or you can just force whatever resolution you want on a generic monitor.05:31
starnand how would i know if it dose05:31
jhutchins!fixres | starn05:32
ubotustarn: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:32
jhutchinsstarn: Read taht.05:32
jhutchinsthat even.05:32
jhutchinsI really need a new keyboard.05:32
starnthe site?05:32
redshadowherohey, does anyone know where I can find drivers for a printer?05:32
Biovorewhat printer?05:33
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jhutchins!cups redshadowhero05:33
jhutchins!cups | redshadowhero05:33
uboturedshadowhero: Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows05:33
DaSkreechBrought to you by apple05:33
jhutchinsComputers are such literal beasts.05:33
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Biovorewell there machines..05:33
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mememecan anyone tell me how to enable apport?05:36
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starnwhat was that site agen?05:37
mememe....ive got a crashing application and was hoping to send in the crash report from apport05:37
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redshadowheroubotu: It appears as if my specific printer isn't on any of that list; I'm trying to get the printer (a xerox workcentre m940, by the by) to work, and its additional scanner to work as well.05:38
starn!monitor05:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about monitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:38
chaoticdude i gotta tell u guys i enjoy kubuntu 10   times more than windows05:38
erov!fixres | starn05:38
ubotustarn: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:38
starnthanks!05:38
starnneed to book mark that05:38
DaSkreechchaotic: Welcome05:38
chaoticthanks05:39
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chaotici was kinda surprised when i found out u can run all windows apps and games05:40
DaSkreechNearly all05:40
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chaoticwith like wine and cedega05:40
jhutchinsstarn: It's not guaranteed to have your answer, it's just got more answers than I do.05:40
K-RyanThere are some kinks05:40
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hitmanWillychaotic: i would say some...05:40
starnyea05:40
jhutchinschaotic: Certainly not all.05:40
K-Ryanjhutchins: Well I'm sure you can run them all05:40
hitmanWillychaotic: wine and cedega don't always work that well05:40
chaoticyeah i know u get errors here and there05:40
starni am trying to figer out how to fix monitor and display thingy soo i can change em!05:40
chaoticbut theres always work arounds05:41
K-RyanThe success of the program is what's in question...05:41
DaSkreechK-Ryan: Want to put something of value on that?05:41
jhutchinschaotic: The more the apps take advantage of glitches, bugs, errors, and back doors, the less likely the app will work, but...05:41
hitmanWillyjhutchins: which is most every game out there :)05:41
K-RyanDaSkreech: No I'm saying that you can run the program, but it working well is not promised05:41
wepihahow do I start knemo?05:41
K-RyanOr even expected05:41
starnwell found my monitor05:41
jhutchinsFrom some recent crow pie I have eaten, I know that cedega doesn't do much good unless you have an Nvidia card.05:41
starnDELL E197FP05:41
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DaSkreechI've had games crash out instantly05:42
DaSkreechBut that's beside the point :)05:42
DaSkreechWhat's important is that Winamp works05:42
jhutchinsGfh!&%&$%(#@%^!~!~~!!!!!05:42
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jhutchinsWinamp!?!?!05:42
starnin xorg what do i edit to make res higher?05:43
DaSkreech:-D05:43
jhutchinsYou would run WINAMP on a LINUX system?05:43
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jhutchinsstarn: You might edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but try krandrtray fist.05:43
DaSkreechLinAmp?05:43
jhutchinsfirst.05:43
jhutchinsDaSkreech: AMAROK!05:44
starnkrandtray?05:44
DaSkreechDoesn't have NSV05:44
jhutchinsWinamp was nice - in the ninetys.05:44
chaoticoh snap i think  if im not mistaken did an error free ao tinstall05:44
DaSkreechFirst app that adds support for nsv I'll highlight and walk behind it with a horn05:44
chaoticanarchy online05:44
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chaoticbeen trying to get that all day05:45
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starnwell i might need to download it..05:45
jhutchinsI am way too worn out from running a skidloader for 2 hours to deal with this worn out keyboard.05:45
jhutchinsG'Night all.05:45
DaSkreechNight05:45
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chaoticsubuntu sudo some times conflicts with  wines05:45
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starnadept manager aint loading05:46
jhutchinsDaSkreech: mplayer or vlc dude.05:46
DaSkreechthey have nsv support05:46
DaSkreech?05:46
starntype this? apt-get install krandrtray05:46
DaSkreechSweet :005:46
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starnnvm05:47
starnbut dint find it05:47
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DaSkreechnow I just need an aggregator05:47
DaSkreech!info kranrtray05:47
ubotuPackage kranrtray does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas05:47
DaSkreech!info krandrtray05:47
ubotuPackage krandrtray does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas05:47
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starnhow come every thing i try to run dosnt?05:48
starnthat uses kde05:48
starnlike krandrtray and apedt manager w.e05:49
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starnnvm fixed05:49
starnjust some thing about it it wasnt runing05:49
starnmaybe i needed to log in as root05:49
starnunno05:49
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starnoh neat i have krandrtray on here already05:51
wepihadoes anyone know of a media sharing tool for Linux that can stream to an xbox360?05:51
starnwonder if it well start.05:51
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chaotichey guys how do u install programs with makefiles like winrar05:53
chaoticark  for somereason  doesnt recognize r01r02r0305:54
Biovorewell rar is close source.. so there is no make file for it..05:54
chaoticyeah   theres a make  file    in it05:55
erovark wont open r01 r00 .. only rar and then the others in succession05:55
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erovif it still wont open it.. use winrar in wine..05:55
DaSkreech!info unrar05:55
DaSkreech!info unrar-free05:55
ubotuunrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.7.3-1 (feisty), package size 94 kB, installed size 228 kB05:55
ubotuunrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB05:55
Biovoreyou tring to extract multipul file archive?05:56
erovthe unrar-free sometimes doesnt work.. i dont know why05:56
erovvery particular archives05:56
DaSkreechcause it's a version behind05:56
Biovoreencryption sometimes breaks things..05:56
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chaotictellsmmmme the utility  unrar is not in ur PATH05:57
K-RyanI hate this -.-05:57
K-RyanMy sound doesn't work >.>05:57
nzkHmm05:57
nzkGive it a raise, maybe it will get back to work05:57
K-RyanIt's on vacation05:57
K-RyanI'm not giving it a raise05:58
chaoticwhat should i do to unrar  these05:58
chaoticis there another program05:58
K-Ryan!rar05:58
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free05:58
K-Ryan!info unrar-free05:58
ubotuunrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB05:59
starnwhat do i edit in xorg to config res?05:59
starni want 1280x102405:59
Linux_Galorethere used to be a free solution called notrar05:59
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chaotici installed unrar  free   where would be at06:03
wepihachaotic: ark should be able to handle rar files now06:03
chaoticsame thing06:03
wepihahave you installed unrar and unrar-free?06:04
wepihaand / or06:04
chaotici installed unrar free06:05
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ShockValuecan someone tell me what the line is supposed to look like at: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Feisty_with_nVidia#Kubuntu06:06
wepihahmm depending on the rar-file version, unrar-free looks to provide extract for files less than version 3.006:06
ShockValuethe one that starts :  echo deb "http....." feisty main06:06
ShockValuethe auto-link feature screwed up the synta06:06
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yasirhi, I'm having trouble installing themes on Ubuntu Fiesty fawn , can some one give me a step by step installation guide?06:10
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mileshello?06:10
yasirhi06:10
mileshey can i say something real noob real quick?06:10
Daisuke-Idoyou can't possibly say anything we haven't heard before :P06:10
miles"fck windoze!"06:11
Daisuke-Idogo right ahead06:11
mileswas that pretty good?06:11
Daisuke-Idookay, that was inappropriate, but i understand the sentiment06:11
milessry06:11
milesdone with that06:11
milesdoes anyone here play ET?06:11
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edsonsomebody knows an alternator of wallpapers?06:13
ShockValueok, how about this newb question.. what /should/ this line look like?    the beryl wiki screwed up the syntax:  echo "deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org feisty main06:13
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ShockValuealternator?  like acdc?06:13
ShockValueor like deviantart.com ? :)06:13
mileswhoa what?06:13
yasircan someone tell me hoew to install the domino theme?06:13
milesET?06:13
mileslaff06:14
ShockValuethe 2600 arari game ET was awesome~! :)06:14
edsonShockValue, alternator wallpaper random...06:14
Daisuke-IdoShockValue06:14
Daisuke-Idoare you trying to just install regular old beryl?06:14
hitmanWillymiles: you mean evercrack? (EQ)06:14
ShockValueDaisuke-Ido: i dunno, ive just been reading up on some of the fancy new window graphics stuff.. is beryl what I want?06:14
Daisuke-Idoprobably06:15
Daisuke-Idoare you running feisty?06:15
ShockValuei want beryl in KDE.. yes feisty06:15
Daisuke-Idographics carD?06:15
ShockValuenvidia 7600gs06:15
Daisuke-Idoah, same as mine :D06:15
hitmanWillyShockValue: actually, beryl is dead, compiz-fusion is probably what you want :)06:15
ShockValueoh well then, i dont want to bother trying out a dead fork.06:15
Daisuke-IdohitmanWilly: i'm sticking with beryl until compiz-fusion works06:16
hitmanWilly:P06:16
milesno Enemy Territory RTCW06:16
Daisuke-Idocube enabled?  yes.  rotation enabled?  yes.  can i use either of these?  no!06:16
milesi have never used compiz, is it sick?06:16
ShockValuei just re-installed fiesty this evening.. i fought with my ATI card for a week and figured i'd slap in this nvidia card before i broke my computer (with my boot)06:16
hitmanWillymiles: ive got the new one on reserve at gamestop :)06:16
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milesthats cool..but i mean, do you have it on linux?...basically, does anyone know if the ET package exists in the ubuntu repos?06:17
milesstraight up06:17
milesi cant find a real answer06:17
hitmanWillymiles: it was released free, so probably06:17
K-Ryanmiles: I don't know if they're in the repos, but I know you can get it for linux06:19
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milesok thank you06:19
hitmanWillymiles: its in the gentoo repos, so it probably is in the ubuntu ones :)06:19
milesbut i already knew that :-{P06:19
mileso06:19
milesso, do yall wanna scrim sometime...?06:20
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miles...?06:20
miles:(06:20
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hitmanWillymiles: sorry, more of a UT player lately :)06:21
Biovoresame06:21
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BiovoreI think we get UT editor now as well :-)06:21
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=== hitmanWilly just wants to pwn some c0ns0l3 n00bs :P
milesUT...is it open?06:22
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BiovoreUnreal Tournamate 2k406:22
hitmanWillymiles: no, but it does have a nix client, on the install cd even :)06:22
milesis it worth it?06:22
milescuz i love css06:23
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mileslove it06:23
hitmanWillymiles: absolutely06:23
BiovoreUT has a native port for linux06:23
K-RyanYeah, it was fun06:23
mileslaff out loud06:23
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rayluwow...this kubuntu install is taking forever...06:23
K-RyanEven though it's '0706:23
milesi know it does, but is it better then css?06:23
K-RyanI loved playing the demo06:23
BiovoreI play TAM.. its like CSS but with ut weapons..06:23
milesand remember, i love css06:23
raylucs:s < *06:23
K-Ryanmiles: They're different06:23
rayluplease don't call it css :P06:23
Biovoreyeah.. its quake with dodging..06:23
milessteam needs to get on it06:23
hitmanWillyUT is FAST...06:23
rayluno! steam is terrible06:24
K-Ryan2k4 isn't as fast06:24
rayluthe less games that get steam-ified, the better06:24
K-RyanIn the larger levels anyway06:24
Biovorevalue actualy has the ablility to port to linux.. they just don't want to..06:24
milesthats why im sayin they need to get on it06:24
hitmanWillywell, not that fast, but its old-school DM fast06:24
K-RyanBiovore: Of course they CAN06:24
milesthey love bill gates too much06:24
Biovorethere engine can do OpenGL on PS3..  not much work is needed..06:25
milesOpenGL on PS3?06:25
Biovorewell I think it come back to support..06:25
Biovoreyeah.. PS3 is all opengl06:25
mileswow06:25
hitmanWillymiles: that's the rendering engine ps3 uses06:25
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milesand we could run the same engine on linux..right?06:25
=== hitmanWilly thinks the ps3 will do a lot for linux/mac gaming
milesso if your hardware was fast enough...we could run ps3 off our box?06:26
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Biovoreeveryone dose OpenGL..  Microsoft has a interface layer called Direct X that uses the same hardware calls, just under a different name.. (Direct is more updated then OpenGL.. )06:26
mileso yea....wait now i remember, ps3 actually has some kind of dist. on it06:26
hitmanWillymiles: not exactly the same but directx vs opengl is what keeps most games from being ported06:26
Biovoreyeah.. you can install linux on it..06:26
milesloves it06:26
khaije1bbwhere does sdl come into all this?06:28
milessdl?06:28
hitmanWillysdl is just software rendering06:28
hitmanWillyIIRC06:29
Biovoresdl can do OpenGL06:29
BiovoreUT2k4 is done in it..06:29
mileswtf06:29
surgyhow do i fix this?: /usr/lib/transgaming_cedega/gddb.py:24: RuntimeWarning: Python C API version mismatch for module gddb_parser: This Python has API version 1013, module gddb_parser has version 1012.06:29
hitmanWilly!sdl06:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sdl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:29
Biovoresurgy: complain to transgamming..06:29
miles!enemy territory06:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about enemy territory - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:29
miles!et06:29
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org06:29
khaije1bbI thought it was a simplified platform-independent api for opengl...?06:30
hitmanWilly!find enemy-territory06:30
Biovoresurgy: probably need python 4 or 5 (there are 2 version out there)06:30
ubotuPackage/file enemy-territory does not exist in feisty06:30
mileshates it!06:30
hitmanWilly!find et06:30
ubotuFound: aspell-et, console-setup, contact-lookup-applet, cricket, deskbar-applet (and 913 others)06:30
milessee i already checked that06:30
milesjust sometimes, it is under a name i wouldnt  think of06:30
mileslike the java 6 jdk06:30
hitmanWillymiles: adept search it :)06:30
mileso06:30
milessun-java-jdk606:30
milesor somethin crazy06:31
Daisuke-Idonot there06:31
milessorry guys, this is my first day using irc06:31
Daisuke-Idodon't stress it06:31
milesthis is so crazy!06:31
Daisuke-Idoi don't think ET is in the repos though06:31
Daisuke-Idomaybe straight from iD?06:31
milesyea ive come to that conclusion also06:31
hitmanWillythere's probably a deb out there for it somewhere06:31
milesno its cool, i got it, ive installed it before, just not from an ubunto reps06:31
surgyBiovore: can i ju8st installl thew package "python-all" to fix this?06:32
KprI like my SPICY SPICY chicken06:32
milesu silly!06:32
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Biovoreyeah.. most comerical software you have to use there installer06:32
mileset is sick tho06:32
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milesi used to play that in school..smoked all my class mates06:32
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hitmanWillymiles: ive actually never tried, will have to give it a go06:32
milesits like bf2 kind of06:33
KprET?06:33
Kpr..Oh that ain't workin o here06:33
Kpr*on06:33
mileser..bf2 is kind of like et06:33
milesno ive seen it!06:33
Kpr?06:33
K-RyanAnyone have any recommendations on what to do when your sound doesn't work?06:33
KprThat's what I mean06:33
K-RyanMedia is played, but I can't hear it06:33
miles!alien06:33
ubotuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)06:33
K-RyanOH!06:34
KprOh, your sound just doesn't work, Ryan?06:34
K-RyanI GET IT NOW!06:34
K-Ryan!botsnack06:34
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!06:34
K-RyanHaha06:34
milesyour welcome k-ryan06:34
K-RyanKpr: Correct06:34
K-RyanThanks miles, that was half the equation06:34
mileshaha06:34
milesi was just messing06:34
KprHmm...well06:35
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KprI'm off to do something...06:35
KprWho knows what06:35
mileso rly?06:35
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K-Ryan!sound06:35
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP306:35
miles!mp306:35
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:35
milesthis is so crazy06:35
mileswhoa06:35
milesi just typed06:35
K-RyanHmm?06:35
miles"/clear"06:36
K-RyanAnd?06:36
milesthat is so useful!06:36
hitmanWillylol06:36
milesseriously, first time in IRC..06:36
K-RyanYeah >.>06:36
miles!?06:36
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mileshow do u do that06:36
hitmanWillymiles: the /me tag06:37
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milesclear06:37
mileso man06:37
miles"/me"?06:37
hitmanWillymiles: try it :)06:38
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milesdoesnt work06:39
=== miles hi
mileso06:39
=== miles flexes
milesthere we go06:39
hitmanWillymiles: everything in irc can be done with / cmds06:39
jbbarnesCan someone help me with setting passwords in Kubuntu 7.04?06:39
milesyea i somehow knew that06:39
milesit just..makes sense06:39
hitmanWillymiles: i use irssi so ive kinda had to learn them :)06:40
hitmanWillyjbbarnes: what passwords are you trying to set, your current user?06:40
jbbarnesHas anyone else had problems with the graphical "System Settings" app not setting passwords correctly?06:41
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hitmanWillyjbbarnes: just use passwd in konsole06:41
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jbbarnesYes, I can get that to work fine. I want to set this up so a client can administer it. It would be nice to get the GUI app working.06:42
jbbarnesThe passwd definitely works.06:42
milesim not sure but...06:42
miles!qt06:42
ubotuQt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt applications06:42
jbbarnesHe's capable, but not good on the command line.06:42
milesyou know..one time at my job, i was researching something, and i called TrollTech, the people who make QT06:43
hitmanWillyjbbarnes: set up a shortcut to run passwd for him :)06:43
milesi was so honored06:43
jbbarneshitmanWilly: To answer your question, I can create users in the gui, but it will not successfully set a password. So the new user cannot login until I run sudo passwd username.06:44
hitmanWillyjbbarnes: seriously tho, what does the graphical tool screw up?06:44
jbbarnesIt just won't set passwords successfully.06:44
hitmanWillyjbbarnes: are you running in admin mode?06:44
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hitmanWillyjbbarnes: oh, nm, it wouldn't add users if you weren't :P06:44
jbbarnesI am logged in as "kubunto" then start the "System Settings" app, then click the "Administrator" button before creating users.06:45
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mileshey i know06:45
milesjbb: i got your solution06:45
jbbarnesMiles, Really?06:45
milesi think06:45
hitmanWillyjbbarnes: you could try running kdesu kcontrol06:45
jbbarnesLet me try...06:45
mileswrite a small qt based app, place in /usr/bin, and have a script make a new user, and they must run that program at login for first time06:46
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milesor is that plain non-sense?06:46
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miles!/06:46
hitmanWillymiles: no, makes sense, but quite a few people aren't adept at coding :)06:47
mileso06:47
milessee..i always think about things like that.  I dont know anyone that knows anything about linux, so i never know if thats really how its done06:47
jbbarnesLooks like it will let me change the current user's password. Looking for a place to add/modify users.06:47
hitmanWillymiles: however, a bash script could do the same thing, and those are much easier to write06:47
surgywhat will cause this error:?06:47
mileso yea, but he said gui06:47
surgy[ERROR]    - Mouse Wheel supported = TRUE06:47
surgymmtime pid=6154 tid=616306:47
surgywine: Unhandled exception, starting debugger...06:47
hitmanWillysurgy: try in #wine, maybe some devs are around :)06:48
hitmanWillyjbbarnes: ive always found kcontrol to be easier to use than the new system settings app06:49
jbbarneshitman, does it allow you to create/modify other users' accounts, or just your own?06:50
hitmanWillyjbbarnes: actually, i think taht's another app06:51
hitmanWillyjbbarnes: there is a gui tool for it somewhere tho :)06:51
jbbarnesOkay, for instance, I just created a new user with webmin, assigning a password. Works fine. Same with the command line tools.06:51
miles!dd-wrt06:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dd-wrt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:52
milesdd-wrt is frickin nasty!06:52
jbbarnesIt makes me wonder about the GUI. This is a Windows guy, interested in Linux, and I hate to start off by saying that the add user program doesn't even work.06:52
jbbarnesNot confidence inspiring....06:52
milesif the dude already is in love with bill gates, you cant do much06:53
jbbarnesHe's a willing convert, though...06:53
milesthey all are /me looks away in shame06:53
mileso dang, it didnt work06:53
hitmanWillyjbbarnes: the power of bash is actually what got me off of windoze06:53
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milesthe power of bash, this man is brilliant!06:54
jbbarnesYeah, BASH is great.06:54
hitmanWillymiles: / cmds only work at the beginning of a line06:54
milesquestion -- does anyone here develop java on linux?06:54
milesthank you06:54
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milesthat is so sweet06:54
milesguys, so sorry06:54
hitmanWillyi hated how redmond seemed to be trying to bury its DOS roots, and when they actually got rid of the true cmd line altogether, i simply gave up on them, among other reasons06:55
jbbarnesYeah, it's pretty doggoned hard to automate a GUI06:56
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jbbarnesNicer to use scripts.06:56
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hitmanWillyjbbarnes: but anyway, usually the graphical tools work reasonably well, it may just be an error somewhere06:57
jbbarnesThat's good to know. I'm actually new to Kubuntu, so I was hoping this was just a fluke.06:58
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miles!flash06:58
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash06:58
jbbarnesIt's running in vmware, and the vmware image came from the Kubuntu site. Maybe I should just make my own and try again.06:58
miles!gnash06:58
ubotuAn open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/06:58
hitmanWillyjbbarnes: ah, that's probably the issue, vmware images can be buggy07:00
jbbarnesHe wants an ftp server at his office but can't find any good ftp programs for Windows. I told him he could run vsftpd under Linux in a vmware machine, so that's what I was trying to set up.07:01
hitmanWillyjbbarnes: but the user managment  GUI thing works fine on this end, so it's probably just a local issue07:01
jbbarnesI'm going to try again, by creating my own vmware machine rather than the one I downloaded.07:01
hitmanWillyjbbarnes: yeah, you may want to try building your own07:02
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jbbarnesI have to say I really like these debs as opposed to rpms. apt-get is nice.07:03
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Nylewell guys, I gave ubuntu a fair shot didn't like it, debian amd64 here i come07:04
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mileso07:05
HyperCity!pastebin07:05
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:05
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milesirc07:10
K-RyanSo, none of the 288 people here can help me figure out what's wrong with my sound07:10
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nzkK-Ryan, PEBKAC virus07:11
K-RyanPEBKAC?07:12
jbbarnesYeah, probably PEBKAC07:12
K-RyanWhat's PEBKAC07:12
K-RyanAnd virus?07:12
NickPrestaK-Ryan, problem exists between keyboard and chair07:12
K-RyanIt hasn't worked since install07:12
NickPrestahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pebkac07:12
K-RyanOh, got it >.>07:12
jbbarnesWhat type of sound card?07:13
K-RyanI'll get you the lspci line07:13
K-RyanBut the thing is07:13
K-RyanIn Fluxbuntu07:13
K-RyanIt worked fine07:13
jbbarnesIs that stable yet?07:13
K-RyanYes07:13
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jbbarnesI thought it wasn't officially released yet. Huh.07:13
jbbarnesGood to hear.07:13
K-RyanIt won't be07:13
K-RyanNot under Canonical anyway07:14
jbbarnesI thought they said they got into the development cycle late and were going to wait until the next cycle to be in sync.07:14
K-RyanThey got into Feisty late07:14
uadeverhi everybody07:14
K-RyanSo they skipped it07:15
K-RyanStraight to Gutsy07:15
K-RyanHi there uadever07:15
jbbarnesAh.07:15
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uadeverI'm looking for help with feisty07:15
K-Ryan!ask07:15
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:15
uadeversince I upgraded I can't seem to mount and read a ntfs partition on external usb hard disk07:15
K-RyanIs it in fstab?07:16
uadeverlet me try to find out07:16
hitmanWillyok, i need to get some sleep, c y'all later07:16
K-RyanBye hitmanWilly07:16
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uadeverK-ryan: would it help if I pasted in here the actual content of my fstab?07:18
K-Ryan!pastebin | uadever07:19
ubotuuadever: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:19
milesdoes anyone here know about emulators? for ps1 or ps2?07:19
miles!emulator07:19
uadeverit's not large07:19
uadeverthing is07:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about emulator - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:19
miles?07:19
K-RyanYou would be better off doing that07:19
skolliemiles: do a search in synaptic07:20
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K-Ryanuadever: People tend to complain about pastes in here more than 3 lines07:21
uadeverhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29982/07:21
milesno, i mean does anyone know how they work? is it legal?07:21
jbbarnesEmulators are legal...07:21
K-Ryanmiles: The legality is questionable07:21
uadeverthat's the link I think I should paste07:21
jbbarnesBut you often need ROM images...07:22
K-Ryanuadever: Yep07:22
jbbarnesand they are copyrighted.07:22
K-Ryanjbbarnes: Good point07:22
uadeverphew07:22
K-RyanThe emulators are legal07:22
K-RyanThe ROMs are the questionable part07:22
arunhello people07:22
milesstallman loves emulators?07:23
jbbarnesYou can emulate just about everything from a TRS-80 to a Playstation. But you have to look for ROMS in questionable areas.07:23
uadeverK-Ryan, before the upgrade, when I plugged the external usb hd, both partitions, fat32 and ntfs would automatically be mounted and opened in konqueror07:23
K-RyanWhat happened to hda2-4?07:24
arunis there anywhere i can set a keyboard shortcut to minimise all windows? i know i can click on the icon next to the quicklauncher, but is there a keyboard shortcut?07:24
uadeverwhat would hda2-4 be?07:24
K-Ryanarun: There's an applet you can put in your taskbar07:25
K-RyanAnd if you click it everything get's minimized07:25
arunK-Ryan: I know about the applet, I was looking for a keyboard shortcut07:25
K-RyanShortcut to the applet maybe?07:25
milesyou could make an icon file, place it in your Desktop folder, have it perform action to close all windows07:25
milesyea07:25
arunmiles: keyboard shortcut?07:26
uadeversuch a shortcut can't be created with kcontrol?07:26
milesi meant yea, i was agreeing with k-ryan07:26
uadever(I only managed to find out about alt+f3 after one week of searching)07:26
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uadeverwhat would hda2-4 have been, I only have a main and a swap partition on this laptop?07:28
uadevermisplaced question mark, sorry07:28
K-Ryanuadever: Okay, but then why do you have an hda5?07:28
K-Ryanuadever: It's okay =P07:29
uadeverI have no idea07:29
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K-RyanYou could probably remove the line then07:29
miles!knoppix07:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about knoppix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:30
mileswhat do i type to see all the / commands?07:30
K-Ryan!distributions07:30
ubotuOther !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)07:30
raylumiles, tab-tab07:30
milestab-tab07:30
milesno07:30
mileswhat?07:30
raylupress tab twice07:30
milesnothin07:30
rayluo.007:30
K-Ryanlol07:31
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milesi dont get it07:31
raylurun this command: . /etc/bash_completion07:31
K-Ryan"display all 1947 entires?"07:31
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rayluthen press tab twice in the konsole again07:31
uadeverif I remove the line, do I risk anything?07:31
raylu(or did you not do it in the console the first time?)07:31
mileswait what?07:31
K-Ryanuadever: Just make a backup of the file, just in case07:31
raylumiles, you want to see everything you can use in the konsole, right?07:31
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milesno, everything i can use in konversation using /07:31
K-Ryan /help07:32
mileso07:32
K-RyanStart there07:32
K-Ryan=P07:32
milesi was trying /?07:32
virajcan anyone help me with wifi?07:32
milesyea i got a solution07:32
viraji get message 'no dhcp offers recieved'07:32
mileswhat are you using? desktop or laptop?07:32
virajlaptop07:32
mileso..i might not be able to help you then.  I just did a brilliant work around for desktop wifi07:33
milesyou could still do it, but it might detract from laptop usability07:33
viraji could try!07:33
milesok07:33
milesi assume you already have 1 ap07:33
milesright?07:33
viraji didn't understand (newbie here)07:34
milesaccess point?07:34
virajyes07:34
uadeverk-ryan, wait a minute, in the line below hda5 it says "swap"07:34
milesok, see, i have my access point upstairs, and my wireless pci card in my desktop downstairs07:34
K-RyanYes but the partitions should be hda1 and hda207:34
K-RyanOh right, you don't have an hda207:34
K-RyanIt might just be misnamed, leave it07:34
milesthe card couldnt work under linux, so the work around i did...07:34
K-RyanGood call uadever!07:34
arunis there no way to minimise everything to the desktop with a keyboard shortcut? seems absurd.. i think you can do it with beryl and metacity, but how come you can't set a shortcut using kwin?07:35
milesi bought another linksys router, i had 2 now, and flashed it with dd-wrt07:35
milesdd-wrt is able to turn a linksys router into a wireless bridge, so i did that, plugged it in downstairs with my linux box07:35
milesand now i can even play my ps2 online downstairs07:35
uadeverthing is, I'd like to see and manage, if possible, the options for automounting of filesystems07:35
milesit can mount samba shares07:35
uadeverto check if somehow ntfs has been taken off the list07:36
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milesdd-wrt can mount samba shares07:37
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K-Ryanuadever: Those are them07:37
Biovorekonqueror can do samba07:37
uadeverfrom the graphic system settings menu I can't seem to gain root access to the disk&partitions section07:37
Biovoretry smb://<computer_name>07:37
mileskonqueror > firefox?07:38
Biovorein some cases yes..07:38
milesin web browsing no07:38
milesbut everything else..yea sure07:38
uadeverif those are them can you tell from what I pasted if ntfs read is enabled07:38
milesntfs is read enabled and nothing else07:38
K-Ryan!ntfs-3g07:38
K-Ryan!fuse07:38
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions07:38
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse07:38
Biovoreyeah.. write is disabled by default on ntfs07:38
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raylu=\07:39
raylui mounted an ntfs drive as07:39
raylu*with07:39
uadeverthing is, read doesn't work for me07:39
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raylusudo mount /dev/sda2 sda207:39
rayluand it's owned by root :(07:39
raylui can't read without using su07:39
uadeverI'm sure that's not my case07:39
uadeverbefore the upgrade I did not need root to read from the removable hd07:40
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evsophomore2009Hey just wondering...I know its kinda a stupid question...Is Kubuntu able to get Virus's?07:40
dsmithin short yes07:40
dsmithkubuntu, meaning Linux07:40
rayluits not removable07:41
rayluand it's not automatically mounted either07:41
uadeverthe one I'm having troubles is removable07:41
milesa virus is kind of a broad term07:41
uadeverand upon plugging it I'd see a konqueror dialog asking me what I wanted to be done07:41
milesdont you think raylu?07:41
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evsophomore2009So is a virus protecter a good option than?07:41
mileslaser mouse crushes an optical mouse any day07:42
Guilty_as_Sinit may help the people you talk to to more so than it helps you..07:42
uadeverafter the upgrade the dialog would still show up, but upon choosing "open in window" I'd get nothing07:42
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milesdid you try ctl+alt+del ?07:42
milesomg rofl!07:42
milessorry07:42
milesguys dont hate me for that07:42
arunhahaha07:42
uadeverand I would not find it in the /media directory07:43
uadeverwhere the other partition regularly did show up07:43
evsophomore2009Any good free virus Protecters with Kubuntu?07:43
milesavg07:43
K-Ryan!virus07:43
ubotuA/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2107:43
milesavg is for linux i beleive07:43
milesbelieve07:43
milesyea07:43
uadeverthing is, on a different computer with ubuntu 6.06 I have no trouble mounting either partition07:44
Guilty_as_Sinthere is a windows avg on cnet07:44
K-RyanThat's because avg is for Windows07:44
K-RyanDunno if they have a linux client07:44
Guilty_as_Sinah'07:44
mileshey guys i gotta go mug someone for their dreamcast gear07:44
milesbrb07:44
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klobsterraylu: man mount, and edit fstabs.07:45
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klobsterraylu: from man mount: NTFS "By default, the files are owned by root and not readable by somebody else."07:46
klobsterline 83107:47
rayluo.007:47
rayluthere's no way to do it with an option; it must be changed in fstab?07:47
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klobsteruid=value, gid=value and umask=value07:48
klobsterline 829, mount manpage; mount options for ntfs07:49
klobsterin other words, no it doesn't need fstabs07:49
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rayluhm...i'm kinda group-retarded07:52
raylui would want to set the gid to my user, right?07:52
rayluand leave it owned by root?07:52
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Biovoreraylu: or a group your user is in..07:54
klobstergid as your users group, yes07:54
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rayluwhat's  :avah?08:05
raylui have eth0:avah and wlan0:avah08:05
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crimsunavahi.08:07
klobster!avahi08:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about avahi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:07
klobster!info avahi08:07
ubotuPackage avahi does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas08:07
crimsunapt-cache show avahi-autoipd08:07
crimsunread the Description.08:07
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miltosmy usb stick is not recognised anymore when attached to usb port...what can I do?08:11
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rayluanyway to disable it? and what causes feisty to enable it?08:11
raylumiltos, are you on the original account?08:11
miltosraylu, original account?08:12
rayluas in the first feisty account08:12
rayluif you created another account and are logged into that, you may not have permission to access usb devices08:12
klobsters/account/user/08:13
miltosraylu, then i am on the origianl account08:13
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miltosanyone help?08:15
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LeandroArgentinoHello08:28
klobsterolleh08:28
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thunderboltFresh install, hehe.08:29
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thunderboltAnyone here ever use the w3c validator tools?08:31
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LeandroArgentinoHelp. I ve intalled Kubuntu. Then I've intalled Genome_desktop and I like this.08:33
LeandroArgentinocan I unistall Kde? How08:34
skolliemiltos: is your problem resolved?08:34
LeandroArgentino(sorry, my English is Dramatic!)08:34
klobsterhow do I add a new splash theme?  theme.rc isn't recognized :(08:34
klobsterLeandroArgentino: sudo apt-get remove kubuntu_desktop08:36
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[1] raylu*kubuntu-desktop08:43
[1] raylui just used08:43
[1] raylusudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "2WIRE668"08:43
[1] rayluand doing iwconfig eth0 again still shows "off/any"08:43
[1] rayluiwconfig wlan0 essid on tells me invalid argument08:44
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milesok08:47
milesso whats new08:47
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ksivajii got this message when i tried to change resolution "the module for monitor and display cant be loaded" now i cant change resolution what to do ?08:56
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eagles0513875!aptfix09:14
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 09:14
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miltosthe usb icon doesn't appear on my desktop when i hook my external hd usb drive...any solutions???09:21
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josephI have that same problem using KDE miltos but it works fine in Gnome09:28
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mileshello09:30
mileswhere my doggs at09:30
mileswoof woof09:30
milesmeow09:30
josephHello miles09:30
milessorry im tired09:30
milesill talk to yall lata09:30
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sx66How do you get USB devices working under kubuntu, only 1 out of 3 usb(s) mount.09:36
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ksivajisx66 have you tried manual mount09:50
sx66how?09:51
ksivajisudo mount /dev/sda /mnt09:52
ksivajisx66 have you tried ?09:54
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sx66sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt09:56
sx66mount: you must specify the filesystem type09:56
ksivajiyes09:56
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KjellviZcan someone explain to me the biggest difference between say pclinux os and kubuntu?09:57
KjellviZdifferences*09:57
pagKjellviZ, different repos, different communities...  iirc they're both debian -based, so to too big differences between them...09:58
ksivajisx66   sudo mount udf  /dev/sda /mnt09:58
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KjellviZpag: ok, cos im currently using pclos, but considering kubuntu instead09:59
therni want to remove openoffice (since i never use it anyway), but it depends on language-pack-xx, a meta package.. can i safely remove that one ? (seing other things seemingly depend on it as well..)10:00
KjellviZpag: mainly due to community10:00
pagKjellviZ, great choise :D10:00
KjellviZpag: but i see on this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/DellXPSM1710 that feisty doesent support my monitor in the correct resolution10:01
KjellviZpag: does that mean out of the box, its possible to fix, or not at all ?10:01
ksivaji!kubuntu10:01
ubotuKubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE10:01
pagthern, hmm? I managed to remove OOo without any problems yesterday :-/10:01
ksivaji!edubuntu10:01
ubotuEdubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org10:01
thernwell apt says.. the following packages will be removed: etc.. etc.. language-support-en etc etc...10:02
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ksivajiis the any way to  quick reboot10:02
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ksivajido*10:02
pagKjellviZ, to be honest I don't know... never used a laptop myself10:03
pagthern, please pastebin the output of command "sudo apt-get remove openoffice-data"10:03
KjellviZpag: ok, im just wondering if that means i should go with Edgy instead10:04
thernmeh.. don't have openoffice-data.. openoffice-core i do have:) will paste that10:04
pagoh sorry... s/ openoffice-data / openoffice.org-base10:04
aznpridechinesei don't think linux would be very suited for school, especially elementary/junior/high school. since most of the teachers there don't know jack about computers in the first place.10:04
pagthern, oh yeah... sorry.. -core that is :D10:05
thernpag: it's localized output though10:05
pagthern, I'll try to undestand :)10:05
thernpag: http://pastebin.com/d1ab7828e10:06
pagaznpridechinese, we had about 60/40 per cent rate of Windows' and Ubuntus in our school, and we did just fine :)10:06
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pagthern, language-support-xx is just a meta-package, so it can be safely removed..  I'm more worried about thunderbird-locale-en-gb as it shouldn't depend on OOo10:08
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thernpag: don't have thunderbird installed anyway.. maybe the locale just was left behind..10:10
pagthern, probably yes.. then you shouldn't worry at all :)10:11
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Dragon_1212yo10:15
Dragon_1212how is everyone doing10:15
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Dragon_1212lol10:16
trakinaslosiung the game10:16
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trakinascheers all10:16
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theeahello10:21
theeai have a question: i used wine to install yahoo messenger everithing is ok but when i want to start aplication i use the comand open with wine and nothing happend10:23
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chipshello10:28
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ubuntuhi there10:33
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Kjellviz&msg nickserv identify jalla10:33
Kjellvizzomg10:33
Kjellvizlol10:33
Kjellvizanyways10:33
Kjellvizim running kubuntu livecd10:34
Kjellvizand wondering if it doesent mount my HDD by default ?10:34
pagKjellviz, it doesn't, so the partitioning would be easier10:34
Kjellvizok10:34
Kjellvizbut when installed10:34
Kjellvizwill it mount them automatically _10:35
Kjellvizand even my windows partitions ?10:35
pagKjellviz, well it should..10:35
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Kjellvizsounds like its fishy business :P10:35
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Kjellvizbut if it doesent10:36
Kjellvizi guess its not very hard to fix it so it will mount them at boot _10:36
Kjellviz?10:36
Kjellviz(damn foreign keyboard setup)10:36
pagKjellviz, then somebody will quickly quide you how to make them mount ;)10:37
Kjellvizsaweet10:37
Kjellvizthats the kind of answer which is the reason why im now moving from PCLinuxOS to Kubuntu!10:37
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pag:D10:37
Kjellvizyesterday i got yelled at in their support channel for "telling people to install mandrake packages which was not supported"10:38
Kjellvizwhen all i was doing was asking what packages that COULD be installed10:38
Kjellviz><10:38
pagKjellviz, well don't worry, we don't yell.. we just tell our dear ubotu to inform someone, if (s)he's doing something wrong :)10:39
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arunhttp://themasterplan.in/2007/07/15/sexy-smooth-fonts-on-kubuntu/   <-- if anyone is interested10:42
Darkrift411where do i chnage the color of the text on each task button on the kicker?10:43
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pagDarkrift411, if I understood you right, that setting is only available in 3.5.710:44
Darkrift411hrmmmmm10:44
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Darkrift411i think ive changed it before10:44
Darkrift411right now, the text is black10:44
Darkrift411and i have a black taskbar10:44
Kjellvizpag: i know, been a ubuntu user before, thats why im changing back !! :)10:45
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pagDarkrift411, in earlier versions it can be changed only with the whole theme. 3.5.7 provides a custom option for taskbar only10:45
Darkrift411i c10:46
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Darkrift411whats the easiest way to upgrade kde?10:46
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Darkrift411im down with newer versions :)10:47
sx66hey10:47
pagDarkrift411, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php10:47
VI_LeninHi people! Can you please tell me how to get  log of kernel-stage boot? For troubleshooting.10:47
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sx66my usb does not mount off of the hdd, it does off of the live cd...what is the deal?10:48
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pagVI_Lenin, logfiles are located in /var/log/ you might be intrested in syslog and boot... I'm not sure about those though10:50
sx66how do I mount usb drives?10:50
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pagsx66, sudo mount /dev/sdXY /mount/point10:50
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sx66mount: mount point /mount/point does not exist pag10:52
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pagsx66, the command I gave was an example :)  you'll have to kreate your mountpoint  ie. sudo mkdir /mount/myusb10:53
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evilmmrofl10:53
VI_LeninUnfortunately, syslog is empty, boot stores just "(Nothing has been logged yet.)". Can I turn kernel messages logging on?10:53
sx66how do I create a mount point?10:54
Darkrift411ok, i did what the page said10:54
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Darkrift411but "kde" doesnt show as upgradeable10:54
Darkrift411lots of kde apps do, and some of the libs and themes have upgrades, but kde itself doesnt10:54
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pagsx66, sudo mkdir /mount/myusb  or sudo mkdit /mount/point10:55
VI_LeninMy Feisty didn't boot completely yet10:55
pagDarkrift411, it's how it should be :)10:55
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Darkrift411ok10:55
Darkrift411just making sure10:55
pagDarkrift411, kde itself is just a metapackage that isn't even istalled by default10:55
Darkrift411i c10:55
Darkrift411so kde just installs all the other crap that make up kde itself?10:56
Darkrift411that what you mean?10:56
MarnerDarkrift411, yes10:56
pagDarkrift411, 'kde' installs lots of apps that are more or less controlled by KDE -project... most of them are useless, since Kubuntu provides better alternatives10:57
Darkrift411i c10:58
Darkrift411i wonder what all kde 3.90 has thats different10:58
pagDarkrift411, kde as in desktop-enviroment is mostly installed by kdebase -package10:58
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pagDarkrift411, kde 3.90 is alpha version of upcoming KDE410:59
Darkrift411oh really?10:59
Darkrift411cause they both have diff pages10:59
Darkrift411diff packages too10:59
Tron04Hello, is it possible to use the hardware capabilities of the SBlive sound card also in Kubuntu/Linux. I searched the available mixer applications, but did not find a suitable one. Especially I want to fiddle around with the hardware effects the emu10k1 processor provides (like parametric eq, reverb, chorus, distortion etc.). In Win there is the Creative Surround Mixer application or the kx project. Any tipps where to start to find my sol11:00
Tron04Linux?11:00
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pagDarkrift411, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha1.php  notice the " kde4-3.90.1 "11:00
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Darkrift411i c11:01
Darkrift411good to know11:01
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Darkrift411i heard kde4 is way off from useable11:01
Darkrift411and i was about to try 3.9011:01
Darkrift411this kde upgrade is boggin gmy system down bad11:01
pagDarkrift411, don't... KDE4 *is* far from usable... really really far11:02
Darkrift411yeah11:02
ggarlicmaybe11:03
Darkrift411i like betas, but not alphas11:03
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Darkrift411is there by any chance a way to restart kde without having certain apps close?11:03
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arunDarkrift411: you can save your session11:03
arunand once it restarts, it will load those apps again in the same state11:04
Darkrift411but xchat would still disconnect11:04
manu_hi i installed timidity, put snd-seq in /etc/modules, made modprobe of it, started timidty as server, but kmid gives me the following error11:04
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manu_is this a ubuntu specific bug?11:04
Darkrift411i wrote some scripts that do channel/server maintenance elsewhere that i hate to stop if i dont have to11:04
manu_Cannot connect to 20:011:04
manu_Player :: Couldn't play !11:04
Darkrift411which is why i hate rebooting11:04
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manu_pmid and timidity play the midi files well11:05
manu_but i want the graphical karaoke feature of kmid ...11:05
ggarlicsorry to interrupt you,i'm a rookie using linux.who can tell me what's the difference between kde and gnome.just make a simple explanation.thank you11:05
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arunhey ggarlic11:06
ggarlicyeah,i'm here11:07
Tron04Kde: more configuration options for various settings, Gnome: More focused configuration options. KDE uses QT, Gnome uses GTK libs11:07
ggarlicthank you Tron04.11:08
arunKDE is nicer overall, but again that depends on your personal preferences11:08
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ggarlicand also thank you arun.i'm student from china.and i'm doing all my best to study linux.11:11
Darkriftthx guys11:11
Darkriftmy upgrade seems to have went well11:11
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Darkrifti see where to change the text color, but is there a way to change the font or font size?11:12
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Tron04Arun: The niceness is a fading thing. First you think: wow, these windows anymate nicely when opening and closing them. But after some usage you just want to a windows to open immediately with no fancy effects. I have not found my favorite Windowmanager yet, but I think xfce will do it...11:13
arunI don't use any fancy effects11:13
arunEverything works pretty fast for me11:13
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arunDarkrift: font size of what11:14
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pagDarkrift, kcontrol -> Appearance.. -> Fonts -> taskbar font11:16
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Darkriftnice11:18
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Dikibananas11:22
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Dimitry|hi11:33
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Dimitry|wie mach ich das beryl der standard wm ist?11:33
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Darkriftim soo damned tired of seeing these badass screenshots of other users linux desktops and never being able to get anywhere near the same look11:43
monziecan someone please tell me how to generate rmd160 for a file?11:44
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vzduch!language | Darkrift11:44
ubotuDarkrift: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.11:44
_gtt_dang11:44
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_gtt_obutu's strict11:44
Kjellvizahh how good this fresh install of kubuntu feels11:45
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Darkriftvzduch, daytime television is allowed to say a lot worse then that word, and i fail to see how that combination of those 2 words are un family friendly11:46
Darkriftb**** a** p**** are all allowed on "family" tv these days11:46
Darkriftnot trying to start an arguement, just stating an opinion11:47
Darkrift!broadcom11:48
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs11:48
vzduchwell, if it were for me, I hadn't said anything.. us Europeans are much more relaxed in this respect than those Americans.. :>11:48
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Darkriftheh11:49
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Darkrifttell me about it11:49
Darkriftafter seeing some european tv shows i no longer feel i have a "potty mouth"11:49
Darkriftbut its all in the context11:50
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Darkriftsomeone in here told me about a bcm43xx driver that was new that i should try, but i wasnt able to that day'11:50
Darkriftwish i could find it again11:50
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vzduchif I just recall an interview of a Dutch radio DJ w/ the member of an American band some years ago, where the DJ said, "He doesn't believe we can say 'f*ck' on the radio.." *gg*11:50
Darkriftheh11:51
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Darkriftthe word i hear in british tv shows that doesnt fly in the us is c**t11:51
Darkriftits every 4th word in some of thier shows11:52
Darkriftbut if you say it in the us, you get slapped by any female in a 40ft radius11:52
vzduchhehe11:52
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Darkriftthats the word i say when i really want to piss off a female11:53
kuukkelihow i install the damn tahoma font? :E11:53
Darkriftive used it twice (very sparingly)11:53
kuukkeliI need tahoma font for steam11:53
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LynoureDarkrift: Do you have a support question about that?11:53
bart_Can somebody help me, I installed my nvidia driver and now I only have a blinking cursor thing...11:53
Darkriftabout what?11:53
vzduchkuukkeli: you either have it or you don't, it's nowhere to be found on the 'net11:53
LynoureDarkrift: indeed...11:54
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Darkriftexactly.....11:54
kuukkelivzduch, how so?11:54
vzduchkuukkeli: comes w/ M$ Office e.g.11:54
bart_Can someone help me please :)11:55
Dragon_1212wtf11:55
Dragon_1212omg wtf is up with beryl11:55
Dragon_1212it keep f****g up11:55
Darkrifthow do i find out what driver im using for my wifi?11:55
Darkriftdont remember if im using the "native" driver or ndiswrapper11:56
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runleveltenberyl = experimental.11:57
kuukkelivzduch, then how some people who uses linux has Tahoma? =D11:57
kclauwanyone else ever had a problem with fmtutil.cnf and tetex?11:57
LynoureDarkrift: you could possibly see it with lsmod as a loaded module.11:58
vzduchkuukkeli: I think you can answer that question yourself. :>11:58
runleveltenMicrosoft released those fonts to the general public some time ago.11:58
vzduchkclauw: tetex is deprecated, use TeXLive :)11:59
Darkriftieee80211              34760  2 bcm43xx,ieee80211softmac11:59
Darkrifti see that11:59
vzduchrunlevelten: Tahoma is not part of the M$ TrueType Core fonts11:59
Darkriftbut how do i fidn out if its ndiswrapper or the native driver11:59
kclauwvzduch: I tried that, but then I still need tetex-base according to Adept11:59
vzduchkclauw: possible, I didn't get around using LaTeX yet :(12:00
vzduchmy aptitude installed it as a dependency for ubuntustudio12:01
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kclauwvzduch: thx anyway12:02
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runleveltenvzduch: You're right, I'm thinking of Trebuchet12:03
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kuukkelivzduch, i found the font12:04
kuukkelibut where are the linux's font folder?12:05
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pagkuukkeli, just a guess: /usr/share/fonts ?12:06
vzduchkuukkeli: try 'fonts:/' in your favourite file manager (personal fonts) or use the font installation function in the Control Center in sysadmin mode for system-wide fonts12:06
runleveltenyeah, kcontrol's fonts section ftw12:07
runleveltenToo many icky font problems over the years to feel guilty about using the gui too.12:07
arunusr/share/fonts is correct12:07
runleveltenheh12:07
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vzduchthe actual directories are ~/.fonts/ (personal) and /usr/share/fonts/ (system-wide; nicely divided into subdirectories)12:08
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kuukkelivzduch, you mean Adept manager?12:09
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vzduchkuukkeli: no, Konqueror, Krusader, whatever12:11
kuukkeliOh12:11
TrunkkisIs it possible to re-istall kubuntu without deleting your files from harddriwe?12:11
kuukkelii think so yes12:12
vzduchTrunkkis: depends on what you want to keep12:12
vzduchand on your partition layout12:12
kuukkeli"MAH PORN!"12:12
vzduchsure :D12:12
Trunkkis:P I'd like to save my music12:13
kuukkeliand porn12:13
Trunkkisno... no porn12:13
kuukkeli:O12:13
kuukkeliyou fag? =o12:13
Trunkkisnope12:13
TrunkkisI've got a girlfriend ^^12:13
vzduchit's always adviseable to have a separate partition for /home, then you can keep your user and all the settings and files12:13
kuukkeliand i'm santaclaus ^_____________________________________^12:13
Trunkkis>.<12:14
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vzduchif not, you should back up /home/yourUserName/12:14
LynoureThese Ubuntu channels are not what they used to be...12:14
vzduchLynoure: why?12:14
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kuukkeliBeware of the raper Bears filled with viagra and rabid bunnies and CANNIBAL DUCKS! real threat of humankind12:14
Lynourevzduch: 'why' I don't know. Will 'how' suffice?12:14
Trunkkisvzduch: and how can I do that and where?12:14
arunhello Lynoure12:15
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DikiIs there a way to have a sound play when you receive a PM in Konversation?12:15
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vzduchTrunkkis: there's a number of possibilities.. possibly the easiest way is to just tar /home/yourUserName/ together & put the resulting .tar archive on another partition or burn to DVD12:16
runleveltendiki: settings>configure notifications12:16
Lynourevzduch: this used to be a support channel quite suitable for even 10 year old kubuntu users... But nowadays there is a lot of stuff not that suitable, and no one seems to care.12:16
pagDiki, yup. Settings -> Configure Notifications12:16
Trunkkisok12:16
Lynourehi arunkale12:16
runleveltenLynoure: not generally there isn't. There's the odd exception, of course.12:16
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Trunkkiswell i've only one partition and my dvd-burning is not working12:17
Kjellvizwhen ive installed Nvidia drivers, it says im supposed to run this "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"12:17
Kjellvizis that ok ?12:17
Kjellvizi remember that caused me some headache in ubuntu last time12:17
Kjellvizcould not start x afterwards ><12:18
aznpridechineseare you trying to install nvidia driver kjell?12:18
Kjellvizyes12:18
aznpridechinesei can help12:18
Kjellvizfrom the repos12:18
aznpridechinesei've mastered it12:18
pagLynoure, so you'd prefer tougher moderation here?12:18
Kjellvizsweet thank you12:18
aznpridechinesewhat card do you have?12:18
Kjellviz7900 GS12:18
aznpridechinesewell... mastered my 8800gtx that is12:18
Kjellvizlaptop version12:18
Lynourepag: or dropping the CoC pretense, either or.12:18
aznpridechineseare you able to use the version from nvidia.com?12:18
Kjellvizbut its a PCIe card nevertheless12:18
aznpridechineseso is mine12:18
Kjellvizno idea12:18
aznpridechineseok try this12:19
aznpridechinesegonna take me a min to type up all the info12:19
Kjellviznp ill wait ^^12:19
vzduchaznpridechinese: use the provided packages if you can12:19
aznpridechineseprovided packages dont' work12:19
Kjellvizthey dont ?12:19
vzduchfor the 8800 you can't afaik, but the 7900 should run on these12:19
aznpridechinesewell if you know better than you give him the instructions... i'll just go back to watching my movies12:20
Kjellvizi had it running on my 6600gt using provided packages12:20
Kjellvizbut i had some issues with that "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" rendering my X useless ><12:20
Kjellvizhad to manually reconfigre xorg.conf afterwards12:21
Kjellvizbuuut12:21
Kjellvizaznpridechinese: please continue12:21
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pagKjellviz, installing nvidia-glx-new  should work...12:22
aznpridechineseok before anything, type this, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg12:22
aznpridechinesethen enable all the resolutions you want xserver to use, it'll default to the highest resolution possible12:22
vzduchaznpridechinese: the -phigh option causes some other settings in xorg.conf to get lost12:22
aznpridechinesethen you'll want to download the driver from nvidia.com12:22
pagaznpridechinese, that command isn't really reccomended for those, that don't use en_US kb-layout12:23
aznpridechinesehe doesn't?12:23
Kjellviznope12:23
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aznpridechineseok nvm that options then12:23
aznpridechineseoption12:23
Kjellvizlol ok12:23
Kjellvizpag: is that the driver in Adept ?12:23
pagKjellviz, yup.12:23
Kjellvizwell ok12:23
aznpridechinesebut do the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:23
aznpridechinesethen type sudo apt-get install build-essential12:24
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aznpridechinesethen sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-dev12:24
aznpridechinesethen sudo nano /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules*12:24
jpatrickhi Hobbsee12:24
vzduchaznpridechinese: hold on a sec, we're trying to install from the repo.. if that fails, you can come up w/ your variant :)12:24
Kjellvizholy mother of....12:24
Kjellvizlol12:24
Kjellvizwell i can try repos first12:25
Kjellvizn12:25
aznpridechineseand then there should be a line that says DISABLED_MODULES=""to DISABLED_MODULES="" type nv in between the last ""12:25
Kjellviznp*12:25
aznpridechineseok12:25
Kjellvizbut12:25
Kjellvizas i said12:25
Kjellvizsudo nvidia-glx-config enable12:25
aznpridechinesei'll go watch my movie then12:25
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Kjellvizwill it fubar my xorg again ?12:25
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pagKjellviz, it might... but reconfiguring it shouldn't be a great problem12:25
Hobbseehi jpatrick!12:26
Hobbseejpatrick: LTNS12:26
Kjellvizpag: it can be for someone who aint to comfy editing xorg.conf in nano etc12:26
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jpatrickHobbsee: yep, been doing things12:26
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Kjellvizas mentioned, last time i couldnt start X after running that command and restarting X12:27
Hobbsee:)12:27
song-birdie:-P12:27
pagKjellviz, that sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg should work... it will mess your kb-layout, but it's easy to repair afterwards12:27
Kjellvizyou mean now, or if sudo nvidia-glx-config enable messes up my xorg.conf ?12:28
kuukkeliis kubuntu and ubuntu debian linuxes?12:28
vzduchKjellviz: no need to edit xorg.conf normally.. that's what 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' is for.. but if you care for some custom settings you might want to back up your xorg.conf first12:28
pagKjellviz, it might, it might not... I won't promise anything12:28
Kjellvizkuukkeli: yes they where initially based on debian, and you have access to all debian repos as an option (non supported i think)12:28
vzduchpag: I prefer a full reconfigure.. the driver didn't identify my monitor modes correctly.. when reconfiguring you can specify your monitor frequencies which will result in an optimal picture :)12:29
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Kjellvizpag: no what i mean is: WHEN do i use that command ?12:29
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Kjellvizafter using sudo nvidia-glx-config enable12:29
Kjellvizbefore ?12:30
Kjellvizif things mess up ?12:30
Kjellviz><12:30
vzduchKjellviz: after, I'd say12:30
pagvzduch, sure. But automatic on is just far easier, and it works in 60% of the cases12:30
Kjellvizok after, but still before i restart X ?12:30
pagKjellviz, after... you don't have to use it, if all goes well :)12:30
Kjellvizaha ok12:30
Kjellvizthanks12:30
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pagKjellviz, nope... try restartin X first, because it might as well work as expected12:31
Kjellvizok thanks =D12:31
song-birdiehello!!!  can anybody help me?  im just new here.  i have been having problems on how to install kde into my ubuntu system.  i also have kubuntu live cd.  but how and where should i start?  now that i want to install it into my machine without internet access.  i tried aptoncd, but it doesn't work on all packages.  can somebody share some knowledge regarding this?12:31
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kuukkeliKjellviz, your linux crashes after you enable the driver and reboot rite?12:33
Kjellviznot sure yet, im gonna try now12:34
Kjellvizit didnt crash last time i tried12:34
kuukkeliif that's the problem, just take the power off from pc and take the  power cable off12:34
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Kjellvizbut that was another PC12:34
kuukkeliand then just check the wire on your graphics card12:34
Kjellvizits a laptop ><12:34
kuukkelixD12:34
Kjellviz=P12:34
kuukkeliowie12:34
kuukkeli;p12:34
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Kjellvizbut thanks anyway hehe12:35
rohhyhi12:35
rohhyI can't find the "boost 20 db" option in my KMix in kubuntu12:35
Kjellvizbrb, gotta try restarting X now12:35
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rohhycould you help me please?12:35
pagrohhy, should be found in Swiches-tab12:36
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rohhyI can't find it, where exactly?12:37
pagrohhy, kmix -> Switches I have it as 1. option from left12:38
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rohhypag: :"( I have only Headphone and EIC95812:39
pagrohhy, well... you could try installing alsaconfig and see from there12:40
rohhypag: maybe I have incorrect souncard setings... because the option is present in my fedora-gnome12:41
rohhypag" ok12:41
aznpridechineseeveryting turn out ok?12:41
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pagrohhy, seems I've remembered the package wrong, and I can't find the right one :(12:41
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rohhypag: which package? the kmix or some sound card driver?12:44
pagrohhy, alsaconf12:44
pag!alsa12:44
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP312:44
pagalsamixer is the name!12:45
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rohhypag, good , so i will install it, thx12:45
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Kjellvizallrite12:47
aznpridechinesedid it work?12:47
Kjellvizyour command saved me hehe12:47
Kjellvizbut now my ext bluetooth keyboard aint working12:48
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vzduchKjellviz: hopefully you have a backup of your old xorg.conf, then you can copy the keyboard section12:48
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Kjellvizi do12:49
dennis_hi there, i have this problem that amarok and kaffeine crash after a couple of seconds, but rhythmbox works, anyone with a solution?12:49
Kjellvizbut i suspect its as easy as pairing the devices again12:49
Kjellvizcos it said it could not connect12:49
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Kjellvizbrb12:51
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dennis_hi there, i have this problem that amarok and kaffeine crash after a couple of seconds, but rhythmbox works, anyone with a solution?12:53
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pagdennis_, launch either of them via konsole and see, if they output some error messages12:54
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Kjellvizthe keyboard settings in xorg.conf are almost identical to the backup12:59
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Kjellvizonly difference is the language12:59
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Kjellvizproblem is i cant connect to it via bluetooth, the keyb just keeps searching01:00
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stevo111hi01:00
stevo111i need help01:00
stevo111im new to linux01:00
pag!ask | stevo11101:00
ubotustevo111: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:00
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vzduchhow about the Device and Files sections?01:01
vzduch!enter | stevo11101:01
ubotustevo111: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!01:01
stevo111and i cant install stuff01:01
Dragon_1212hi stevo01:01
stevo111hello01:01
Dragon_1212are u on live CD???01:01
Dragon_1212or installed the OS???01:01
stevo111nope01:01
Dragon_1212hmmm01:01
stevo111i installed linux01:01
Dragon_1212interesting01:01
stevo111i installd linux fine01:02
Dragon_1212well sorry cant help u neither ive only used linux for quite umm 3 days lol01:02
stevo111lol01:02
pagstevo111, what do you mean by "I can't install stuff"01:02
stevo111i just installed it last night01:02
Dragon_1212like apps01:02
stevo111yea01:02
stevo111brb01:02
Dragon_1212thts wht he means01:02
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vzduchDragon_1212: it's still a meta question01:02
Dragon_1212true01:03
Dragon_1212now gimme ur AIM lo jk01:03
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Dragon_1212wht u mean i got AIM on my ubuntu01:03
Kjellvizvzduch: im checking the entire xorg.conf now for differences01:03
Dragon_1212 yo01:04
Dragon_1212  ok01:04
vzduchstevo111: how about you asking your specific question?01:04
Dragon_1212 ok01:05
Dragon_1212 ok01:05
Dragon_1212 l01:05
Dragon_1212 l01:05
stevo111back01:05
vzduchDragon_1212: stop it.01:05
Dragon_1212 whtat01:05
Dragon_1212what01:05
Dragon_1212 just trying things out01:05
pag!coc | Dragon_121201:05
ubotuDragon_1212: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/01:05
stevo111right how do i install rar01:05
vzduchnot here in the channel please01:05
vzduchstevo111: search for it in Adept or use 'sudo aptitude install rar'01:06
pagstevo111, enable multiverse and install unrar ;)01:06
Dragon_1212 nah its got cookies dont trust it01:06
Kjellvizvzduch: nope, there are nothing in xorg.conf that differs except from the video part (which makes sense since thats whats been changed due to installing driver)01:06
vzduchpag: you can actually install rar01:06
stevo111wtf is multiverse?01:06
pag!multiverse | stevo11101:06
ubotustevo111: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu01:06
vzduch!multiverse01:06
stevo111ok\01:07
stevo111thx01:07
pagvzduch, yeah. sorry. I misread the question01:07
Dragon_1212 HEY EVERYONE go to youtube and look up GOLDEN BOY!!!!01:07
Kjellvizhmmm brb gotta test something01:07
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Dragon_1212 :)01:07
aznpridechinesehow goes the nvidia driver kjell?01:07
stevo111he left01:07
vzduchI'll go take a bath, bbl :)01:07
stevo111lol01:07
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Dragon_1212 dam finally ive downloaded 800 updates lol01:08
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stevo111lol01:08
stevo111i just updated mine01:08
pcliphi01:08
Dragon_1212 yea well beleive me ur going to love u buntu01:09
Dragon_1212ubuntu*01:09
pcliphehe - i'm downloading the updates too :)01:09
Dragon_1212hi01:09
Dragon_1212lol01:09
stevo111its cleaner01:09
pcliphow do i start apache and php?01:09
Dragon_1212yea01:09
stevo111and not much viruses01:10
Dragon_1212and no viruses on ubuntu or spyware01:10
pagpclip, hmm.. sudo /etc/init.d/apache start  ?01:10
pag!lamp | pclip01:10
ubotupclip: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)01:10
Dragon_1212well i got antivirus and spyware software just incase lol01:10
pclipwell, ok. i've just downloaded xampp - for local development, and am trying to make a shortcut for the desktop to start the server01:10
Dragon_1212yo stevo u got AIM?01:11
pclipahh - xampp seems much easier to install :)01:11
Dragon_1212wht is xampp?01:12
Dragon_1212might i add01:12
pclipapachefriends.org/en/xampp.html01:12
pclipwww.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html01:12
Dragon_1212yea but what is it tell me01:12
pclipi've used it for a while now01:12
Dragon_1212is it for games?01:12
pclipit's a lampp server01:12
Dragon_1212and???01:12
Dragon_1212used for?01:12
pclipphp/perl development01:13
Dragon_1212oh isee01:13
Dragon_1212well i cant my beryl software to get to work right idk why01:13
Dragon_1212it keeps screwing up01:14
stevo111lol i need a dual boot :(01:14
pclipi've put the command i want to issue for this shortcut in the shortcut command linle - but it doesn't seem to actually work. the command works if i issue it from konsole01:14
Dragon_1212lol i dont have dual boot lol01:14
Dragon_1212i hate WINBLOWS01:14
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stevo111its easier to use01:14
stevo111lol01:14
Dragon_1212well im a technican so yea lol01:15
stevo111i mean i cant even install java01:15
Dragon_1212nothings too hard for me01:15
Dragon_1212unless i cant fix it lol01:15
pagstevo111, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras01:15
Dragon_1212lol01:15
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pagstevo111, remember to enable all repos before issuing that command01:16
Dragon_1212so it can screw up ur computer lol01:16
stevo111i dunno how01:16
pclipwhat's in the extras?01:16
stevo111:(01:16
pag!repos | stevo11101:16
ubotustevo111: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu01:16
pagstevo111, see that link, there are the instructions :)01:17
pagpclip, codecs, java, flash etc. (iirc)01:17
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stevo111i gtg01:18
stevo111bye01:18
pagpclip, "Depends on: gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly, gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse, msttcorefonts, flashplugin-nonfree, sun-java6-plugin"01:18
Kjellvizhmm this is getting annoying ><01:18
Kjellvizit says the keyboard is connected, but i cannot use it01:18
Dragon_1212lol01:18
Kjellvizi just tried in Vista. and the keyboard works fine there01:18
Dragon_1212i thought u meant i was getting annoying lol01:19
pclipmhh01:19
Kjellvizaaaand. the bluetooth icon keeps disappearing and popping up again in systray01:19
pclipcan i issue the password along with a sudo command?01:19
Dragon_1212well what kind of keyboard is it01:19
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Kjellvizhehe no Dragon_121201:19
Dragon_1212lol01:19
Kjellvizmicrosoft wireless entertainment desktop01:19
Dragon_1212thts ur problem01:20
Dragon_1212lol01:20
Dragon_1212MICROSOFT01:20
pcliphaha01:20
Kjellvizbluetooth keyb that was working fine until i installed nvidia drivers01:20
Dragon_1212well it is screwing with it01:20
Dragon_1212maybe01:20
Dragon_1212or consisitency01:20
pclipi want to run a command that has to be run as root from a shortcut on hte desktop01:20
Kjellvizdunno01:20
pclipis this possible without the shortcut asking for a pw?01:21
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Kjellvizim gonna try restoring my backup xorg.conf01:21
Kjellvizbrb01:21
Dragon_1212i am never going back to WINDOWS again it took my dad almost a day to install vista01:21
Dragon_1212on his comp01:21
Dragon_1212lol01:21
Kjellvizive just got myself a brand new comp01:21
Kjellvizwith vista preinstalled01:22
Dragon_1212with ubuntu?01:22
Kjellvizthats why im here01:22
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Dragon_1212well good luck playing video games lol01:22
GrahamAHey people.01:22
Dragon_1212unless u got wine01:22
Kjellviznp ive been running WoW in wine for 4 months01:22
Dragon_1212hi01:22
Dragon_1212well i get bad fps in wine01:22
Kjellvizive got np01:23
Dragon_1212hate it01:23
Dragon_1212ill just wait till quake wars comes out01:23
Dragon_1212for linux01:23
Dragon_1212or valve steam01:23
GrahamAYou can replace some of the wine .dll files with the windows ones I think.01:23
GrahamAI reckon that'd make it run better.01:23
Dragon_1212meh....im to lazy takes to much time01:23
Kjellvizive got a steady 30-35 dps in wow running in wine01:23
Kjellvizat 1920-1200 reso01:24
Dragon_1212no me i get like 1001:24
Dragon_1212or 901:24
Kjellvizand all effects on max01:24
Kjellvizso im satisfied :)01:24
GrahamAActually, while I'm here, how can I find the make/model of my motherboard and cpu?01:24
Dragon_1212umm01:24
Dragon_1212is it intel01:24
Dragon_1212or amd01:24
GrahamAamd01:24
Dragon_1212go to amd.com01:24
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Dragon_1212and get the checker01:24
Dragon_1212for it01:25
Dragon_1212to see01:25
GrahamAWill that work on Linux?01:25
Dragon_1212umm thts going to be a problem01:25
Kjellvizbrb restarting x01:25
Dragon_1212u can always got to system01:25
GrahamAI mean, the computer has windows, it's just I imagine it requires some active x thing, and I'm sure we all know what that's like.01:25
GrahamALike rape, only a bit different.01:26
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Dragon_1212lol01:27
Dragon_1212i know what u mean01:27
GrahamAI had a Dell, but the otherday my brother gave me an old box he has that seems to be faster than it, windows things it's an amd athlon xp +1600 1.47ghz, mobo things it's +180001:27
Dragon_1212i cant say that linux doesnt have problems too01:27
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Dragon_1212some of the things wont work for it01:28
Kjellvizi get an errormessage stating "failed to connect to the SDP server" when i restart bluetooth services01:29
Kjellvizany idea ?01:29
Dragon_1212ummm01:29
Dragon_1212dont use it?01:29
Dragon_1212:)01:29
Kjellvizdont use my keyboard ?01:29
Dragon_1212yes01:29
Dragon_1212lol01:29
Dragon_1212or get the drivers01:29
Dragon_1212either way01:30
Kjellvizwell it works fine under live cd01:30
Kjellvizit worked fine after install01:30
Kjellvizthen when i installed the nvidia drivers01:30
dennis_hi there, i have this problem that amarok and kaffeine crash after a couple of seconds, but rhythmbox works, anyone with a solution? This is in general the output of the konsole: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16901:30
Kjellvizand ran "sudo dkgp-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" it stopped working01:31
GrahamAKjellviz: Check /etc/X11 for any backups to xorg.conf01:31
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GrahamAI belive it will of made one.01:32
GrahamAIn future, never run that command.01:32
Kjellvizive already restored the backup01:32
GrahamAYou're fucked.01:32
Kjellvizive got my keyboard back to norwegian01:33
Kjellvizok ?01:33
GrahamAWait, does it work?01:33
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Kjellvizno01:33
GrahamA...01:34
kuukkeliyay01:34
kuukkeliSteam works :D01:34
GrahamAsudo dkgp-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:34
GrahamATry that.01:34
GrahamAReconfigure everything.01:34
GrahamAkuukkeli: No it doesn't.01:35
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Kjellvizhmmmk, thats basically what messed it up in the first place ><01:36
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GrahamANo, it'll reconfigure ALL of xorg01:36
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GrahamAKjellviz: Wait, do you still get the SDP error?01:37
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nuxilhi all..01:38
kuukkeliGrahamA, how so? =D01:38
KjellvizGrahamA: yep01:38
Kjellvizits the SDPD server that aint running if im not mistaken01:39
Kjellviztrying to find a solution using google ><01:39
GrahamAYeah, fix that before fucking xorg over again.01:40
Kjellvizmy thought exacly01:40
Kjellviz+t01:40
nuxilim running out of diskspace. and i was checking what dirs that are huge.. i noticed that /var/lib is 26.3 GB why is that dir so big ? and can i safely delete it?01:40
Kjellvizbut im not figuring out how to start the server ><01:40
GrahamAnuxil: Have a look in it.01:40
vzduchnuxil: you probably want to run 'sudo apt-get clean' and/or 'sudo aptitude clean'01:41
nuxilhehe.. mythtv with recording of 25.6 GB01:42
nuxilin that dir..01:42
nuxilvzduch, yea.. i know.01:42
nuxilvzduch, but my /var/cache is only 119 MB01:42
vzduchnuxil: then you want to either move or remove the mythtv recordings :)01:43
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nuxilindeed i want to01:43
Kjellvizanyone got a clue to what SDP server is and how to start it ?01:44
GrahamAnuxil: How big is your hard drive?01:44
camillaciao01:44
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GrahamACould anybody tell me why I'm getting a bounty of I/O errors when trying to loda a kubuntu livecd?01:45
vzduchbad burn probably.. I have a similar problem w/ another live CD01:45
GrahamARight.01:46
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GrahamAThe incredible edible dvd isn't as incredible... but just as edible...01:46
nuxilGrahamA, my / is only 75 GB01:46
GrahamABuy a bigger one, they make 1TB hard drives now :P01:47
GrahamAbrb01:47
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tapasi kinda dislike how kmail crashes when changing expiration settings01:54
tapasgrrr01:54
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tapasin a folder01:54
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wepihaGrahamA: had you checked the md5sum before burning your live-cd ISO?01:58
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luke83hi there, i would like to set up a mirror for kubuntu to use it for installation in a network without internet connection. does anyone know how to do that?02:01
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Ace2016luke83: are you after this kind of thing? http://www.howtoforge.com/local_debian_ubuntu_mirror_p202:06
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vzduch!grub02:25
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto02:25
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kjellvizhi again02:26
kjellvizthat nvidia driver from the repos kills my bluetooth server for some reason02:27
kjellvizi reinstalled kubuntu02:27
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kjellvizand the reboot after installing and enabling nvidia driver in xorg.conf (manually this time by adding nvidia istead of nv under device) i loose the functionality of my keyboard02:28
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kjellvizgonna try uninstall the driver and see if i get my keyboard back02:30
kjellvizor if i need to reinstall again02:30
kjellvizso brb02:30
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BluesKaj'Morning All :)02:34
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vzduchafternoon BluesKaj02:36
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rami_i need help02:40
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rami_i removed the k-menu on accident02:40
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sadhello all:)02:40
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rami_i need to get it back02:41
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sadanyone know how to install GKISMET? i cant find on snaptics02:41
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sadanyone knows GKISMET here???02:45
rami_can i get help?(desperate)02:45
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sadrami whats your prob?02:45
BluesKajrami_, sudo apt-get --fix-broken install02:45
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rami_ty02:46
pagBluesKaj, why not sudo apt-get -f install  ? :)02:46
rami_didnd work!02:47
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rami_pag yourdidnt work either02:47
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pagrami_, it's the same command ;)02:47
luke83hey, thanks, that's what i was looking for.02:47
rami_-.-02:47
wepihasad: have you tried the #gtk, #gnome or #perl channels?02:48
pagrami_, what's your problem?  I missed it02:48
rami_i removed the K-menu02:48
sadwepiha: thx i will try02:48
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pagrami_, from the panel? well right click on panel and "add aplett to panel" -> "kmenu"02:49
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BluesKajrami, did you relogin ?02:50
BluesKajctrl+alt+backspace02:51
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Schuenemann!mad02:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:52
Schuenemann!libmad02:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libmad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:52
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ramididnt work. my whole taskbar is gone now...02:52
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Schuenemannwhere can I get this MAD plugin for K3b?02:53
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ramiluckily i enabled the kasbar02:53
wepiha!libmad0 | Schuenemann02:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libmad0 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:54
wepihaodd02:54
pag!info libmad002:54
ubotulibmad0: MPEG audio decoder library. In component main, is optional. Version 0.15.1b-2.1 (feisty), package size 75 kB, installed size 160 kB02:54
Schuenemannwepiha, I already have that package02:54
SchuenemannI have libmad002:54
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wepihafor mp3 -> audio support?02:55
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wepiha!info libk3b2-mp302:55
ubotulibk3b2-mp3: The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 39 kB, installed size 104 kB02:55
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SchuenemannTo enable mp3 support, please install the MAD library for mp3 decoding and also the k3b MAD plugin for mp3 decoding.02:55
ramiI FIXED IT!*jumps up and down*02:56
SchuenemannI get this error when I start k3b02:56
BluesKajrami, do what pag suggested  :click on panel and "add aplet to panel" -> "kmenu"02:56
ramiits fixed now02:56
titanix88hey blueskaj?02:56
BluesKajgood02:56
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BluesKajhi titanix8802:56
Schuenemannwepiha, is that for k3bb?02:56
ramity for you help:)02:56
Schuenemannk3b*02:56
titanix88i tried compiz fusion. it's great.02:57
wepihaSchuenemann: yes, as per !info libk3b2-mp3 above02:57
Schuenemannlet me try02:57
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Schuenemannwepiha, thanks02:59
wepihanp02:59
titanix88blueskaj how r u going & others? Long time no see as i'm off home for my graduation.02:59
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BluesKajcongrats , titanix ...I'm fine thx03:01
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|titanix|blueskaj: Thx but no big deal it's not abt linux(or at least computers:( it's boring mechanical engineering:((((((((((((03:03
BluesKajmechanical engineering isn't boring03:04
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|titanix|Blueskaj: let's go offtopic or they will come and get us(u know i what i mean:)))03:05
ramiit almost got right03:05
kjellvizhi again, ive found some very important info regarding my issue03:05
ramii realized now03:05
kjellvizits not related to the nvidia driver at all03:05
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raminow i have an annoying thing calles kasbar and not the original taskbar03:06
kjellviztheres something in the updates that messes up my bluetooth keyboard03:06
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ramii need the original taskbar03:07
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|titanix|hey Blueskaj come on...i can show u thousand reasons for why i dislike it ;)03:08
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Schuenemannhey, how do I create a video DVD using k3b? I create a DVD video project, then there are 2 folders: AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS? What do I have to do?03:10
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BluesKajSchuenemann, choose dvd video project, open file navigate to the VideoTS, and click open03:12
Schuenemannand I put the video file there?03:12
SchuenemannI have an AVI03:13
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SchuenemannI want my dvd player to open it03:13
BluesKajnope avi won't work03:13
SchuenemannMPEG?03:13
BluesKajuse the VIDEO_TS03:13
|titanix|hey am i in #kubuntu when i am using a xp pc(but with gpl irc client kvirc) :?!!??03:13
Schuenemannwhat do you mean by 'use'?03:13
BluesKajitwill take the audio with it , or it should03:14
SchuenemannI just have to copy the mpeg there?03:14
BluesKaj!VIDEO_TS03:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about video_ts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:14
BluesKajSchuenemann, do you have a RW dvd ?03:15
Schuenemannyes03:15
Schuenemannbut I don't have any mpeg... sigh03:15
BluesKajtry  VIDEO_TS on it , you'll see03:15
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SchuenemannI copied the AVI there, nothing happened03:15
BluesKajdon't worry about mpeg , VIDEO_TS is the file you want to burn03:16
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|titanix|Blueskaj: VIDEO_TS contains some .ifo and some .vob03:16
SchuenemannI don't get it03:16
SchuenemannVIDEO_TS is just a folder, how am I supposed to 'use' it?03:16
BluesKaj|titanix|, k3b will ignore the files it doesn't need03:17
kjellvizis it possible to rollback updates i installed some minutes ago ?03:17
BluesKajthe info inside the folder will be burned as a video03:17
Schuenemannlet me explain: I have a video file and I want it on my dvd player03:17
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Schuenemannmy ordinary DVD player03:17
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BluesKajbeleive me Schuenemann , it should wor , ive burned VIDEO_TS files many times03:18
BluesKajwork03:18
Schuenemannwhat should work?03:18
Schuenemannwhat is a VIDEO_TS file?03:18
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|titanix|Schuenemann: u got an ordinary video not a .vob right?03:19
Schuenemannyes, an AVI03:19
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BluesKajit's a file ready for burning, usually converted from avi03:19
Briareos1does anyone know if the joystick "hotas cougar" from thrustmaster works in linux - and if: how well? maybe somebody knows a source where i can check that ....03:20
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SchuenemannI just have the avi03:20
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BluesKajoh I see what he did , he created an empty VIDEO_TS file starting a new project...start over Schuenemann ...you have to use the mpeg03:21
Schuenemannheh... that was my first message03:21
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Schuenemannok, let's start over03:22
|titanix|Blueskaj: remember u said once that u overlook the obvious ...he he he:)03:22
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BluesKajsorry Schuenemann, i thought you had a converted file which is VIDEO_TS03:22
Schuenemannk03:23
BluesKajk3b won't burn avi files , they have to be converted to mpeg with devede or tovid03:23
Schuenemanndo they have a GUI?03:24
BluesKajdevede does03:24
Schuenemannk03:24
Schuenemannwell, I found an mpeg here03:24
SchuenemannI can try on it03:24
BluesKaji beleive tovid has one now as well03:24
|titanix|Blueskaj:don't mind...just jokes(i like your helpful attitude anyway). Good bye...(looks like my roomate is coming & i'm using his pc:)03:25
BluesKajit's always best to experiment with dvdrw first Schuenemann then one learns how to deal with various files03:25
Schuenemannsure03:25
ramimy taskbas still isnt original03:26
raminow i have to browse things via alt+tab03:26
Schuenemannrami, open kcontrol and then desktop > taskbar03:27
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ubunturosI'm a stuck up and not able to understand the manual. How do I create an executable if I have compiled a C file that generates a .o (object code)?03:28
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SchuenemannBluesKaj, huh... so, I got the mpeg. How to convert it to that video_TS?03:29
ramithen?03:29
Schuenemannrami, hmmm... I actually don't know your problem. I only know you want to do something with your taskbar03:30
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ramii need to have the windows in the taskbar03:30
flakewhy is my trash icon not showing anything moved to my .Trash folder?03:30
aaronjsis the local wireless expert online at the moment.  :S  I'm trying to get an install to go down on a laptop.  Having issues.03:31
flakeit only shows any desktop items deleted03:31
Schuenemannrami, and what do you have now?03:31
ramithe kmenu the system menu show desktop and the quickstart thing03:32
BluesKajSchuenemann, don't worry about VIDEO_TS for the moment , it's not the only filetype that k3b can handle , just get devede or tovid to convert the avi file for you03:32
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BluesKajdevede or tovid will convert the file and burn it as well if you wish ...no need to worry about k3b03:33
SchuenemannBluesKaj, I already have devede... how to convert it?03:33
Schuenemannrami, right-click it, then add new panel03:33
ramithen?03:34
Schuenemannthen taskbar?03:34
ramiits only external03:34
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BluesKajopen devede and click on file , navigate to the avi file , the rest should be easy , altho i haven't used devede in a while03:35
SchuenemannBluesKaj, there is no 'file', only 4 options: video dvd, VCD, SVCD and CVD03:36
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BluesKajSchuenemann, there is a manual03:36
Schuenemannwhere?03:37
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BluesKajman devede , in the konsole03:37
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xexu1974hola03:38
ramii'm starting to get angreehhh!03:38
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SchuenemannBluesKaj, heh... the manual has only 1 page03:38
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kuukkeliBEWARE OF THE VIAGRABEARS WHAT WILL RAPE YOU!03:41
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Gotegerman03:41
pag!de | Gote03:41
ubotuGote: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de03:41
Timsenhi, I am looking for the gethostip command for ubuntu, can somebody tell me the package name?03:41
ramii still dont have the original taskbar03:41
SchuenemannBluesKaj, can we just convert my mpeg to VIDEO_TS? I'll figure out avi>mpeg later03:41
pag!CoC | kuukkeli03:42
ubotukuukkeli: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/03:42
pagTimsen, sudo apt-get install syslinux03:42
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BluesKajk3b will burn mpeg , VIDEO_TS is just a carrier for burnable files that reside inside it03:43
ramihelp!!!!!!!!03:43
kouroshHello room, does anybody know how to install Moneydance on Kubuntu?03:43
Schuenemannand how to create the dvd? What project is it?03:43
BluesKajyou have to open k3b  and navigate to the mpeg file from there03:44
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Schuenemannthen just burn?03:45
BluesKajis it in the k3b list?03:46
Schuenemannyes03:46
BluesKajthen jus burn it03:46
SchuenemannI opened it and a project was created03:46
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Timsenthanks pag!03:46
Schuenemannthis is not SVCD, is it?03:46
ramiI NEED THE ORIGINAL TASKBAR!!(DESPERATE)03:46
pclipcan i have a blank root password as i have ubuntu on a virtual machine?03:48
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starn!mouse03:49
ubotuEnabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto03:49
chaoticdo u guys kno how to extract multirars  files ark woont  work  and unrar-free is installed03:49
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starn!invisable mouse03:49
starndang03:49
starni changed my res and now my mouse well nto show03:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about invisable mouse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:50
starnits there but it well not show :(03:50
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rami!taskbar03:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about taskbar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:51
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Kjellvizaight03:51
starnhmm maybe that fixed03:51
Kjellvizthere was something in the updates that broke the connection to my bluetooth keyboard03:51
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Kjellvizdoes anyone have a idea for a solution, or maybe can tell me how to rollback the update03:51
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Kjellvizthere where some 80 updates applied (fresh install of kubuntu)03:52
Schuenemannrami, right-click > add mini-application03:52
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starn!xorg03:56
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto03:56
ramiTYTYTYTYTYTYTYTY!03:56
waylandbillKjellviz: /var/log/dpkg.log may be of help. It'll at least tell what you need to rollback.03:58
Kjellvizok, how do i identify what needs to be rolled back ?03:58
waylandbillKjellviz: if you used aptitude it would've given more info in the log like what version was replaced and stuff, but I'm figuring you used adept or apt-get.03:59
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waylandbillAs for what to roll back, look at the time stamps. You know when you upgraded I'm assuming04:00
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chaotichow do i change the kubuntu     them  its all blue and white04:01
k31thhas anyone had any luck with KVpnc ?04:01
chaotici wanna make it black04:01
Kjellvizwaylandbill: well dunno what i used, there was an icon in systray telling me there where updates avail, thats what i used04:02
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Kjellvizwaylandbill: also, all updates where done at the same time today, its a fresh installation of kubuntu04:02
Kjellvizand, there where 80 updates04:02
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BluesKajKjellviz, you used the adept updater04:03
Kjellvizok04:03
Kjellvizso not aptitude anyways04:04
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BluesKajno04:04
Kjellvizok im reinstalling all bluetooth packages04:05
BluesKajaptitude doesn't reside in the panel by default04:05
Kjellvizso i need to restart to be sure they are unloaded etc, will be back in a min or so04:05
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starnwhen it says to put this Option "UseEdidFreqs" "false" by screen what dose it mean?04:06
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arunhello people04:07
Raulhi... since a week and two days I'm having problems with fresh install of Kubuntu feisty in a Asus M2N-MX. currently I have an unstable ethernet connection, no sound, no dev created for the keyUSB pendrive. The M2N-MX use Nvidia MCP61 chipset. The modprobe shows that for the eth0 the module forcedeth is loaded (as in Nvidia web page indicates) and for sound the hda_intel. But still no sound (just the PCspeaker)04:07
arunIs anyone here Alex el Julio?04:08
kuukkelifly to spain and ask there04:09
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arunhaha04:10
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kuukkeliBEWARE OF THE VIAGRABEARS WHAT WILL RAPE YOU!04:10
runlevelten!prat | kuukkeli04:10
chaoticdo u3 flash drives work with linux04:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about prat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:10
arunFirefox is very sluggish today for me, for some reason..04:10
arunI have to refresh pages twice to get them to open04:10
kuukkeliTry Konqueror04:10
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arunyeah i did.. funny thing is firefox was working fine till yesterday04:11
arunwhat could have happened suddenly?04:11
BluesKajarun, did yo do an update or add a plugin ?04:11
runleveltenarun: delete your cache...04:12
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BluesKajI used FF for many yrs ...now I'm trying Konq , slowly getting used to it's quirks but , i kinda like it04:12
starn!video res04:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about video res - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:13
starn!res04:13
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto04:13
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runleveltenType is rendered better by konqueror04:14
arunI deleted my cache, and I don't think I updated anything.04:14
starndose this look right???04:16
starnSection "Screen"04:16
starn        Identifier      "Default Screen"04:16
starn        Device          "nVidia Corporation C51 [GeForce 6150 LE] "04:16
starn        Monitor         "DELL E197FP"04:16
starn        Defaultdepth    2404:16
starn        Option "UseEdidFreqs" "false"04:16
starn        SubSection "Display"04:16
waylandbill!paste04:16
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:16
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starnwaylandbill, should i repast? or not?04:17
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starnanways dose it look right?04:17
chaotichow do u get  avast antivirus to run in tray04:18
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arunOpera is working slow as well, don't know what's going on04:18
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chaoticin terminal when i type avast it just starts scanning04:18
arunKonqueror opens pages fune04:18
arunfine*04:18
BluesKajwhy worry about antivirus , chaotic04:19
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BluesKaj!antivirus04:19
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ubotuantivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus04:19
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chaoticavast  is pretty good04:19
starn!useedidfreqs04:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about useedidfreqs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:19
chaoticiits free too04:19
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chaoticu mean theres not many viruses on linux04:20
runleveltenklamav if you want a "graphical AV app"04:20
carloshello04:20
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carloslenguage spanish04:20
chaoticguess  ill just stick with avast04:20
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runleveltenyou have much more chance of a repo compromise than a "virus"04:21
carloshola a todos soy nuevo en esto04:21
chaoticits just something i was used to in windows always having antivirus04:21
t_mausyou can also look for rootkits ^^04:21
BluesKajchaotic , unless your running a windows partition and you are writing to it you don't need an antivirus04:21
carlosde que hablan04:21
chaoticdoes linux get spyware04:21
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t_mausno04:21
chaoticah ok04:22
carlosmmmmmmmmmmm NOD32 is use04:22
runleveltenchaotic, I can write you a program that just sits in your system tray and wastes CPU and memory and thrashes the disk for you, if you want...04:22
runleveltenyou can even pay me 20 bucks for it if you want xD04:22
chaoticlol04:22
carloschaotic hablas espaol por lo que veo04:22
Kjellvizwaylandbill: ok, ive tried reinstalling the bluetooth packages, and no resolution so far04:22
chaoticsi04:22
BluesKajI'l try one more time ...maybe this time he'll get the message04:23
carlosque bueno mis conocimientos de ingles son escasos me se los codigos por que debo saberlos04:23
BluesKaj!antivirus | chaotic04:23
ubotuchaotic: antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus04:23
runleveltendon't need antivirus, don't need anti spyware, don't need defrag04:23
jhutchins!es | carlos04:23
ubotucarlos: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:23
runleveltenDO NEED to avoid installing untrusted apps or adding untrusted repositories.04:23
waylandbillchaotic: keep in mind that if you use packages or programs from untrusted sources as root, you could still run into trouble, but you shouldn't need to worry about viruses as long as you keep security in mind.04:23
runleveltenThose are worse than anything.04:23
carlosmuchas gracias ubotu te agradezco la info04:23
waylandbillKjellviz: you probably want to go back a version, not reinstall the current version.04:24
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chaotici got avast  from .deb04:24
chaoticfrom avast.com04:24
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carlosbye04:24
Kjellvizwaylandbill: hmm ok.04:24
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Kjellvizwell i could just reinstall kubuntu again, and NOT run updates ^^04:25
Kjellvizbut seeing there is 80 updates04:25
Kjellvizand 1 making trouble (probably)04:25
Kjellviztheres 79 updates id like to have =\04:25
runleveltendid you find a bug?04:25
jhutchins!pin | Kjellviz04:25
ubotuKjellviz: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto04:25
BluesKajKjellviz, updates aren't necessarily better .. :P04:26
jhutchinsKjellviz: You can roll back that one package.04:26
Kjellvizi have no idea what package caused the issue04:26
waylandbillaptitude and synaptic support going back in versions rather easily.04:26
jhutchinsKjellviz: Which is what, you updated and bluetooth stopped working?04:26
Kjellvizand i was using adept ><04:26
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Kjellvizjhutchins: exactly04:27
arunok now my internet speed is slow for all browsers, gah04:27
Kjellviza fresh install of kubuntu04:27
Kjellvizran the updates04:27
jhutchinsk, probably the bluetooth modules then.04:27
Kjellvizand my bluetooth keyboard stopped working04:27
jhutchinsarun: ipv6 enabled?04:27
waylandbillKjellviz: it's possible that then next update may fix it. You might want to submit a bug report.04:27
Kjellvizwhen i restart bluetooth i get this error:04:27
Kjellvizfailed to connecto to the SDP server04:27
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chaoticis  there anyway to hide programs  u have open on desktop1 when u r on desktop 204:28
SchuenemannBluesKaj, hey, I tried what you suggested... open the mpeg inside k3b, but that generates a CD project04:28
Kjellvizwaylandbill: submit a bug report, where how but not why04:28
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waylandbill!bug04:29
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ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots04:29
starn!nvidia04:29
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:29
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starn!.run04:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about run - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:30
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starn:\04:30
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chaotici heard linux has a built in firewall04:30
Kjellvizchaotic: yes, rightclick the taskbar and choose Configure Panel04:30
chaotici dont have router04:30
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arunjhutchins: i don't know04:30
Kjellvizchoose taskbar on the left, and unclick the "show windows from all desktops"04:30
tapaschaotic: well, do you have any services running which ar visible from the otside?04:30
waylandbillchaotic: just a cable/dsl modem without a built in firewall?04:30
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carloshello please help spanish what not ubuntu.es, kubuntu.es04:30
tapaschaotic: if not, you don't need a firewall04:30
tapas!spanish04:31
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:31
runlevelten!klingon04:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about klingon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:31
carlosno hay nadien04:31
Schuenemann /join #kubuntu-es04:31
waylandbillthere are sites to check if you have open server ports if you are not sure.04:31
tapascarlos: or just run nmap localhost :)04:32
carlosok04:32
simon_hello, i just buyed a sound system "ex-d5e jvc" this micro system can directly connect to the pc wireless via usb stick. in win xp you do not have to isntall any driver. does anybody know how to use this usb stick via linux.04:32
Kjellvizok so i can submit a bug report04:32
BluesKajSchuenemann, you can always open k3b and choose dvd project04:32
Kjellvizbut how do i solve my problem ?04:32
tapascarlos: but to answer your original question: yes linux comes with "built in" firewall04:32
BluesKajif you want04:33
arunjhutchins: how do i check if i have ipv6 enabled?04:33
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simon_i looked for any clues in the kernel configuration file, and "lsusb" lists the usb stick04:33
tapascarlos: have a look at the iptables docmentation.. most distros also come with a script to setup a simple firewall04:33
jhutchins!ipv6 | arun04:33
ubotuarun: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv404:33
SchuenemannBluesKaj, but data or video one? As video, I'll have those VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS folders again04:33
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carlosbye gracias tapas04:33
runleveltenplug it in and see....04:33
jhutchinsarun: If you do sudo ifconfig in a console and it lists an IPv6 address, it's enabled.  That will cause slow DNS lookups when browsing04:34
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tapascarlos: erm oops, some of those were meant for chaotic04:34
tapaschaotic: did yu read my last messages to carlos?04:34
davfWhen I plug in my bluetooth dongle I get a KDE Bluetooth Framework error "Failed to connect to the SDP server" can anyone help me please?04:34
Kjellvizdavf: ive got the same issue04:34
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runleveltendid you upgrade bluetooth?04:35
Kjellvizit started after i downloaded updates04:35
BluesKajdon't worry , just choose the mpeg file you want burn Schuenemann04:35
davfI'm using Feisty.04:35
arunjhutchins: i see an inet6 address. i just typed ip a | grep inet6, it outputs some stuff04:35
davfrunlevelten Any ideas?04:35
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chaotichow do i know if im using fiesty or what04:36
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SchuenemannBluesKaj, sorry for sounding dumb, but this isn't very clear for me. Is it data or video project?04:36
jhutchinsarun: Follow the directions at that URL then.04:36
runleveltenyeah. Kbluetoothd has issues sometimes after new releases - you need to report it as a bug04:36
BluesKajvideo04:36
Kjellvizrunlevelten: but reporting it as a bug does not fix it today04:36
davfrunlevelten hmmm.... Any OTHER ideas ;)04:36
Kjellvizrunlevelten: how do i rollback the update ?04:36
SchuenemannBluesKaj, and I copy the mpeg to the root of the project? or to VIDEO_TS?04:37
runleveltenNo, you can fix it today after you've reported the bug, potentially saving lots of other people suffering it -  OBVIOUSLY.04:37
BluesKajmpeg=video04:37
arunjhutchins: it was working fine some time ago, my ISP says they havent changed anything04:37
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Kjellvizyes, of course04:37
arunjhutchins: can disabling ipv6 cause any problems?04:37
Kjellvizbut as long as i still have a problem04:37
Kjellvizi focus my time on fixing the problem04:37
runleveltenKjellviz: to roll back the update - do you know which package it was?04:37
davfIf I open a terminal and run sudo hcid -s that brings up the device but then I have a problem with pairing.04:37
jhutchinsarun: Not unless you know you are on an ipv6 network - and you would know.04:38
Kjellvizinstead of reporting a bug04:38
runleveltendid you have a bluez update or a kbluetooth update?04:38
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davfjust for grins Kjellviz. Try that. from cmd line type sudo hcid -s04:38
Kjellvizrunlevelten: no not exactly what package, the updater downloaded 80 packages in total04:38
davfThen try pairing04:38
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arunjhutchins: can i enable it later if need be? why would it suddenly cause problems?04:38
k31thyo.04:38
davfKjellviz ,I want to know if you get the same problem I do. An error from kbluetooth saying pairing not allowed.04:39
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Kjellvizwhat do you use to pair ?04:39
runleveltenKjellviz: let me have a look and see then :)04:39
jhutchinsarun: Yes, of course, just reverse what you did to disable it.04:39
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jhutchinsarun: It causes problems because the DNS lookups see that it is available and try it first, they don't try ipv4 until it times out.04:40
davfKjellviz, your mobile phone?04:40
Kjellvizno im using a bluetooth keyboard04:40
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arunjhutchins: but is this kind of behaviour usual? it was working fine some time ago04:40
arun(sorry if i'm asking too many questions)04:40
jhutchinsarun: If your system was running04:40
davfOk... well see if that command allows you to use your kbd.04:40
jhutchinsarun: Sorry.  It may be that something else went wrong, but having it enabled will slow down web browsing.04:41
Kjellvizthe command runs without errors04:41
Kjellvizbut still cant use keyboard04:41
arunjhutchins: thanks, i'll disable it. do i need to restart the computer, or will restarting x do?04:41
davfIs the dongle flashing like it came alive?04:41
Kjellvizhave no dongle04:41
Kjellvizits builtin04:41
k31thanyone VPN from KDE to work using PPTP ?04:41
Kjellvizim on a laptop04:41
davfmmmm.04:41
jhutchinsarun: The page will tell you to disable a couple of modules. I don't recall if removing them works, you can try sudo rmmod ipv604:42
jhutchinsarun: If not, you will have to restart.04:42
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davfdon't you get a flashing blue light on your laptop when the bt is enabled?04:42
chaoticu guys have no idea how many times installed a distro of linux for a day then went back to windows  it was always somnething04:42
Kjellvizi get a solid blue light when its enabled04:43
chaotici couldnt use a belkin wifi  card04:43
Kjellvizand its been shining all along04:43
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Kjellvizchaotic: been there, done that04:43
runleveltenchaotic: same, other way around - Last time was when I got oblivion.04:43
Kjellvizchaotic: now try go use Vista, and youll be back here in less than 2 weeks04:44
davfchaotic, that's because you need the firmware.04:44
dr_willisVista is....well..i have yet to find anything good about vista.. :)04:44
dr_willisheh04:44
ardchoillelol04:44
MaTiAzdr_willis: Aero?04:44
Kjellvizit looks nice04:44
MaTiAzBut of course Beryl beats it :)04:44
Kjellvizthats bout it ><04:44
Kjellvizindeed04:44
dr_willisKjellviz,  i dont even find it looking that nice.04:44
runleveltenI couldn't stand how much trouble it was to install stuff, and having to get all the drivers from CDs or the internet, and not  having an office suite and stuff, then spending 20-80% of my system resources04:44
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davfchaotic, problem is usually related to the megga money hungry, greedy patent pigs!!04:44
chaotichow much ram do u need to run beryl04:44
runleveltenon spyware, viruses, the heavily latent slow firewall, etc.04:45
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Kjellvizive seen it run on 512 without hickups04:45
starnin kunbuntu how do i chang display settings when monitor and display manager stop working or how do i make it work agen?04:45
chaoticbelkin doesnt release linux drivers04:45
runleveltenSo I came back to GNU/Linux, which isn't broken and crap \o/04:45
davfWhat do you install when you can't get something to work in Windows! Oh yea, go and buy other hardware. True isn't it.!04:45
MaTiAzI love the repository concept of GNU/Linux :)04:45
runleveltenyep.04:45
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Kjellvizrunlevelten: i think ill just reinstall kubuntu and NOT install the updates04:45
davfchaotic, you need to use firmware cutter.04:45
MaTiAzSo much easier than tracking down stuff in the internet :P04:45
Kjellvizseems to be the fastest and easiest way around this problem atm04:46
chaoticndiswrapper  dowks sometimes but mostly not04:46
runleveltenKjellviz: it's the slowest and hardest way around the problem04:46
chaoticmt works04:46
SchuenemannBluesKaj, it says 'the project does not have the necessary files to create a DVD video'04:46
runleveltenand will give you 100x more problems04:46
davftrue04:46
ardchoilleI like the fact that I have a PII, 128mb ram and I run a live cd on it to surf the web and do email :)04:46
Kjellvizwhy is that ?04:46
BluesKajKjellviz, once reinstalled just delete the adept updater ,it's a PITA for most ppl anyway04:46
Kjellvizhehe sounds like a good idea ><04:47
davfyou just need the firmway from the windows driver because it's licensed.04:47
runleveltenerm, because you will get rooted very quickly if you don't install updates to stuff like graphics libs04:47
chaotici rather use apt-cache search than the add/remove programs04:47
runleveltenthat's one of the most popular ways to crack nix desktops at the moment.04:47
waylandbillwhen I first converted to linux, I kept jumping back to windows because I thought I couldn't do something in linux. It was just that I needed to do the task a different way, and once I learned that new way, it ended up being a better way to do it. Eventually, I didn't need to use windows at all.04:47
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runleveltenanyway, what you need to do is this:04:47
BluesKajSchuenemann, then you have to transcode that mpeg file too04:47
Schuenemanntranscode to VIDEO_TS?04:47
Dragon_1212yo04:48
Dragon_1212hi all04:48
runleveltenfind out what package you updates that stuffed up pairing (bluepin? bluetooth? kdebluetooth?), then choose to install the last version04:48
runleveltenthen pin it04:48
davfpin it?04:48
dr_willis'learning to ask the proper question, is step 1 in the zen of linux' :)04:48
runlevelten!pin04:48
MaTiAz:)04:48
ubotupinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto04:48
chaoticwhats better ace  or 7zip04:48
waylandbillor tell aptitude to put a hold on it.04:48
chaoticcan 7zip do multirars04:49
BluesKajno, Schuenemann , that'll be automatic when you transcode to dvd video aak mpeg or xml depending which utility you use04:49
davfthx04:49
Kjellvizrunlevelten: sounds real easy04:49
BluesKajaka mpeg04:49
starnin kunbuntu how do i chang display settings when monitor and display manager stop working or how do i make it work agen?04:49
SchuenemannBluesKaj, I converted using devede, it outputted a mpeg and xml04:49
Kjellvizrunlevelten: except i havent got a slightest idea on where to find out what package caused the issue04:49
Kjellvizrunlevelten: not even where to find out what packages where installed04:50
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davfKjellviz what v of Kubuntu?04:50
mendredstarn: can u clairfy.. are u saying that X crashes?04:50
waylandbillstarn: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  (I think I have that right  ;)04:51
BluesKajSchuenemann, use devede to burn it as well then , it may default to k3b as it's burning utility ...not quite sure04:51
chaotic# scanned files:        3087304:51
chaotic# scanned directories:  154704:51
chaotic# infected files:       004:51
chaotic# total file size:      10.9 GB04:51
chaotic# virus database:       000714-0 15.02.200704:51
chaotic# test elapsed:         22m:40s 360ms04:51
chaoticavast gave me that04:51
runlevelten!pastebin | chaotic04:51
ubotuchaotic: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:51
BluesKaj!pastebin | chaotic04:51
BluesKajoops04:51
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waylandbillchaotic: it's saying it wasted 22m of your time?  :-D04:51
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arunjhutchins: internet speed is much better now, thanks04:51
starnno x dont crash just that monitor and display manager well not work04:51
BluesKajLOL waylandbill :)04:52
mendredstarn04:52
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chaoticwell not really i didnt even notice it scanning didnt even notice resources it took up04:52
starn?04:52
Schuenemann!windows | chaotic04:52
ubotuchaotic: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents04:52
runleveltenAn even better virus scanner for your linux desktop is cappucino04:52
mendredstarn: waylandbill's suggestion then..run it witha sudo04:52
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arunhaha nearest mental health institute04:52
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starnok04:53
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waylandbillchaotic: I'm sure your hard drive noticed.04:53
panigrchello can anyone help me with mesa installation ?04:53
chaoticall it did was scan it thru terminal04:53
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Kjellvizdavf: fiesty04:53
panigrci am getting this error mach64_ioctl.c:190: error: drm_mach64_blit_t has no member named idx04:53
panigrcand don't know what to do04:53
chaotici had to put konsole on my desktop i hated having to go thru thhhe start menu04:54
chaoticum what do linux people call the startmenu04:54
jpatrickchaotic: k-menu?04:55
starnok i did the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg now what do i do in here?04:55
chaotick menu   ah04:55
SchuenemannBluesKaj, oh great... devede crashed and my mpeg is gone04:55
davfchaotic that's the beauty of linux. It can be whatever app you want! kmenu gnome other wm etc!!!04:55
dr_willisThe LunchMenu04:55
dr_willisand the Desktop is the COunterTop.04:55
BluesKajSchuenemann, bummer ...but that's why i use tovid04:55
dr_willisTHe Cd burner is the 'stove' :)04:55
davfdr_willis or BreakfastMenu?04:55
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davf;)04:56
SchuenemannBluesKaj, which repository has tovid?04:56
dr_willisTHe CounterTop is where you store stuff.. the "little box's are where you keep your recipes"04:56
dr_willis:)04:56
dr_willisTools are kept in the /Silverware/ drawer04:56
Schuenemann!tovid04:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tovid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:57
dr_willisTo delete things you drag them to the Dishwasher. ;)04:57
BluesKajSchuenemann, for help jion #tovid..the guys there are very helpful there04:57
BluesKajerr repeat ...old age is setting in04:57
chaoticman i hate this i have to install xp04:57
chaoticfor my sis04:58
starnshould i use kernal fram buffer?04:58
Schuenemannchaotic, why?04:58
chaoticy cant people just learn linux04:58
dr_willisstarn,  I always disable the Framebuffer.04:58
chaoticcuzz  thats all she knows04:58
dr_willisInstall Kubuntu, tell her its the new "Visata2.0"04:58
Schuenemannwho is she?04:58
panigrchas anyone installed mesa before ?04:59
chaotica low end   windows user imagine linux lol04:59
dr_willispanigrc,  ive not ahd to mess with mesa in years. :)04:59
starnshould i enable DBE and RECORD and  V4L?04:59
starnor leave dissabled?04:59
arunthat Linux is not Windows article is quite nice, actually05:00
dr_willisstarn,  are you going down the whole kernel options list? when in doubt.. keep the defaults.05:00
runleveltenKjellviz: did you find out what packages yet?05:00
starnok05:00
dr_willisstarn,  that will save a LOT of time in here.. :) with us getting asked about every *#$&@&@ oddball kernel optuion. :)05:00
dr_willisive not had to mess with the kernel since ive started using Kubuntu05:00
dr_willis!kernel05:00
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild05:00
erovand remove the obvious stuff like HAM Radio support (unless you use that!!)05:00
davf!fix my bluetooth problems.05:01
chaoticwell i got windows xp  performance edition to use less resources05:01
Kjellvizrunlevelten: as i said, i dont know where too look05:01
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starnnow i just restart xserver?05:01
Schuenemannxp performance edition == brand new installation?05:01
starnif so how?05:01
runleveltenKjellviz: paste this in a console and pastebin the output05:01
runleveltenfor i in `dpkg --get-selections | grep blue`; do echo $i `sudo apt-cache show $i 2>/dev/null | grep Version`;done05:02
celestewhoa05:02
erovstarn.. a kernel must be compiled, installed and configured as well05:02
starn...05:02
erovdid you read anything on doing this? the xserver doesnt have much to do with the kernel..05:02
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starnok now i am lost..05:02
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chaotichey how do iset an image on the internet as wallpaper05:03
erov"You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild"05:03
starnan bew to linux..05:03
starnam new*05:03
erovare you trying to custom compile a kernel?05:03
Schuenemannchaotic, right-click the desktop and configure desktop05:03
starnno05:03
erovoh i misunderstood05:03
starntrying to config screen res.05:03
Kjellvizrunlevelten: it only shows that i tried reinstalling bluetooth after i got the problem05:03
erovim so sorry05:03
starnlol np05:03
erovthats my fault i misread the whole thing05:03
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runleveltenNo, it doesn't show that. Can you pastebin it please?05:04
davfhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30011/05:04
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Kjellvizhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30012/05:05
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runleveltenI had no updates today. the only thing you both have that I don't is bluez-gnome..05:06
davfOnly from something else I read of someone else. Didn't make the diff.05:07
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davfI had the problem b4 that.05:07
davfrunlevelten, versions are all the same?05:07
runleveltenokey dokey. Did you both have reasonably fresh installs, or only install bluetooth support recently?05:08
runleveltenyep, versions the same05:08
chaoticman these  admin   restrictions get annoying05:08
davfrunlevelten, I originally had bt removed as I never used it. Just reinstalled about 1/2hr ago.05:08
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davfchaotic, you sure do know the right button to push don't you lol.05:09
chaotici cant put an img into wallpapers05:09
runleveltenlemme find a bluetooth device05:09
runlevelten:)05:09
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Kjellvizrunlevelten: my installaiton is all fresh05:09
panigrccan someone help me to find out to understand what this error means mach64_ioctl.c:190: error: drm_mach64_blit_t has no member named idx05:09
Kjellvizrunlevelten: only thing ever done on it is running the updates05:10
runleveltenso that explains why you would both have 'updated' to current versions05:10
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celestechaotic, view the image using image viewer, then click on VIEW or one of the file menus and see, set as desktop05:12
runleveltenbeen a while since I used bluetooth on this machine, lemme try to get a worksforme05:12
llp78Is it possible to mount 2 locations to the same mount point?05:12
davfk05:12
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davfbrb05:12
runleveltenok05:13
dr_willisSame Mount point NO...05:13
dr_willisthere is that Overlay feature I recall.. but  cant rember how it works.05:13
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dr_willisso that may be a 'posibially'  :)05:13
celestefor some reason my pics from images previously stored on windows dont show up when i right click on the desktop either05:13
Kjellvizrunlevelten so how long you reckon one can run without updating ? :P05:13
llp78i have 2 folders on 2 harddrives i want merged into 105:13
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celesteuse the partitioner05:13
runleveltenKjellviz: I wouldn't do it at all.05:13
dr_willisllp78,  could just link one to be a subdir or an nother.05:14
dr_willisof another.05:14
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dr_willisunless you want them truely merged.05:14
llp78nah i want the contents of both folder to show up in one directory05:14
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erovchaotic: right click the desktop, go to Desktop Icon, select picture radio button.. then notice the blue folder to the right of the listbox? click it. then select the IMG you want as background05:14
runleveltenKjellviz: can you right click kbluetoothd and tell me what rules you have there?05:15
arunI'm thinking of getting a Dell laptop soon. I was wondering if wifi works 'out of the box', or if I have to configure anything for it to work...05:15
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erovif you want to put one into the "root" owned wallpaper directory.. just sudo cp whatever.jpg /whatever/dir/permissions/doenst/allow05:15
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runleveltenConfigure - > Services > Confirmation05:15
dr_willis!find union05:15
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ubotuFound: unionfs-source, unionfs-tools, unionfs-utils05:15
davfbak05:15
runleveltenhi davf05:16
dr_willisaha. "Union" not overlay. is the name of the feature ive seen live cd's use05:16
erovim sorry, chaotic, right click then configure desktop, then desktop icon, then picture radio button... then blue folder to the right :)05:16
dr_willis!info unionfs-utils05:16
ubotuunionfs-utils: Transition package for unionfs-tools rename. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4+debian-3 (feisty), package size 40 kB, installed size 72 kB05:16
Kjellvizrunlevelten: where am i supposed to find that ? in systray, menu etc ?05:16
dr_willis!info unionfs-tools05:16
ubotuunionfs-tools: Tools to manage unionfs filesystems. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4+debian-3 (feisty), package size 66 kB, installed size 152 kB05:16
dr_willis!unionfs05:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about unionfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:16
runleveltencan you guys right cick the kbluetoothd icon, select configure -> configure services -> confirmation and tell me what rules are there?05:16
davfrunlevelten, I think I missed something.05:16
runleveltenKjellviz: system tray05:16
Kjellvizits not there05:17
dr_willisllp78,  check out the Unionfs stuff..  theres a 'fuse' module or 2 to use it also. i just noticed :)05:17
runleveltenif you don't have it, press ALT+F2 and type kbluetoothd05:17
dr_willisFunionFS is the aggregation of two filesystems: a read-only and a read-write one.05:17
runleveltenRight, it wouldn't pair but now it is.05:17
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k31thGuys im having some trouble here getting my ressolution correct no my PC>05:18
Kjellvizkbemusedsrv05:18
Kjellvizsry wait05:18
davfWhat are we looking for in the systray?05:18
k31thI have a Nvidia Card and a Dell LCD panel 19"05:18
runleveltendavf, first you want to be running kbluetoothd05:18
k31thand my ress is stuck in 64005:18
k31thI can't up the ress any more.05:18
runleveltenrun it through alt-f205:18
Kjellvizkbemusedsrv, kbtobexsrv, kbtserialchat,   all 3 enabled05:19
davfsays it runinng but I get this sdc error when I plug in the dongle.05:19
k31thIt works fine in gnome using default ubuntu install.05:19
runleveltenyeah. you see the icon in the system tray?05:19
runleveltenright cick the kbluetoothd icon, select configure -> configure services -> confirmation and tell me what rules are there05:19
Kjellvizrunlevelten: kbemusedsrv, kbtobexsrv, kbtserialchat,   all 3 enabled05:19
davfsame05:20
runleveltenthat's in the "Confirmation" tab, right05:20
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llp78dr_willis: thanks for the tip on Unionfs..05:20
runleveltennot "Local services"05:20
davfI have nothing in the confirmation tab05:21
runleveltenexcellent.05:21
runleveltenright, create a rule05:21
Kjellvizrunlevelten: same here05:21
runleveltenleave it at              *         *          00:00:00:00:00     allow05:21
davfwhat should it say? default is * * ask05:21
chaotichow do i associate torrents  with ktorrent05:21
runleveltenchange it to allow05:21
k31thCan anyone help at all ?05:21
runleveltennow click apply05:21
Kjellvizdone05:22
chaoticwhere is exec at05:22
davfsame05:22
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runleveltenlet's ok out of that and click the icon to open our bluetooth kioslave.05:22
runleveltenthe kbtd icon05:22
davfkioslave?05:22
runleveltenfolder05:22
chaoticneed  to associate .torrent  to ktorrent05:22
davfgot it.05:22
runleveltenright. See your device by name?05:23
dr_willis'which ktorrent'05:23
Kjellvizyeps05:23
runleveltenie not te dongle, the thing you're tryinf to connect to05:23
davfmac address and localhost.05:23
runleveltenclick on that, you get05:23
runleveltenservices listed on the device, yeah?05:23
Kjellvizretreving services05:23
davfgetting an error pairing not allowed.05:23
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Kjellvizyep got the services05:24
starnthank you every one whom was in part of helping me fix my res05:24
runleveltenright, first Kjellviz, you can probably pair now - you need to expect the KDE pin dialog to disappear beneath the other ones05:24
runleveltenjust click on obex file transfer or whatever05:24
starni i finaly am at my max monitors res and do not have to endure 800x60005:25
Kjellvizits a keyboard ><05:25
k31thIll just put ubuntu back on then.05:25
starni shale part now05:25
runleveltendavf: if you close out of that folder, can you delete any paired devices from kbluetoothd>paired devices, replug the dongle and try again?05:25
davfI don't have any paired devs.05:26
runleveltenkbluetoothd>configuration>paired05:26
runleveltenyou don't?05:26
runleveltenwhat device is it?05:26
davfyes empty.05:26
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dr_willisubuntu and kubuntu use the  same X setup... Hmm..05:26
davfpda and a mobile phone.05:26
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dr_willisk31th,  it may be your monitor is set wrong not the card.05:26
runleveltenhave you deleted the paired devices from the phone/pda?05:26
SchuenemannBluesKaj, now I got it working with devede, but it had no colors on tv05:26
Kjellvizrunlevelten: i cant seem to pair, but im not 100% sure on how to do it05:26
runleveltenfor the computer..05:26
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dr_willisk31th,  could load the live cd see if it gets the res right, then copy its xorg.conf over to your home to compare to the other xorg.conf file05:27
Schuenemannweird... I set it to PAL/SECAM05:27
davfyes nothing paired, actually this is the first time I have tried this.05:27
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chaoticnice associate firefox  torrents with ktorrent05:28
davfI don't have a link_key file on my hd anywhere.05:28
chaoticdid it05:28
chaotica little elbow grease and everything will be fine05:28
BluesKajSchuenemann, maybe the file was a black and white05:28
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SchuenemannBluesKaj, lol, nope05:29
krautmoin05:29
BluesKajsorry, no idea05:29
chaotici know someone yesterday said they couldnt associate fire torrents with ktorrnet05:29
Schuenemannand on the computer it has colors05:29
SchuenemannBluesKaj, I'll try with NTSC... but I'm very sure the tv is PAL-N05:29
dr_willisi always just save my torrents to a Torrents dir. and set up ktorrent to auto/scan/load them05:29
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SchuenemannPAL-M05:29
runleveltenargh bugger, I have to go. Sorry folks05:30
Kjellvizrunlevelten: ok05:30
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Kjellvizrunlevelten: thanks for trying anyways05:30
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runleveltennp, good luck with it :(05:30
davfk cya05:30
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davfkjellviz I thought you were working now?05:31
k31thdr_willis: fixed it reconfgured xorg by hand05:31
davfYou see the kbd?05:31
Kjellvizdavf: no im not working yet05:31
dr_willisk31th,  :) A+05:32
Kjellvizi got the list with the device services05:32
Kjellvizbut have no idea on how to pair ><05:32
dr_willisk31th,  i always keep archives of my old/working/otherdisrto xorg.conf files05:32
davfjust click the kbd05:32
dr_willisits amazing how much different disrtos differ in their xorg.conf layouts05:32
Kjellvizi did05:32
Kjellvizand got the list of services05:32
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Kjellvizbut still not paired05:32
Kjellvizno errors either05:32
davfhmm...05:32
k31thdr_willis:  :D05:32
Kjellvizdavf: dunno bout you, but im gonna reinstall kubuntu and just not download the updates until its been fixed05:33
Kjellvizdavf: ill prob post a bugreport on it05:33
Kjellvizor try to scan through all the updates to see if i can find one thats likely to have caused it05:33
davfok... good luck. but this should work.05:33
Kjellvizyou got it working ?05:33
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davfnot yet05:34
Kjellvizok05:34
Kjellvizwell im new to linux05:34
Kjellvizive got a brand new comp i havent gotten to use for real for almost a week05:34
Kjellvizand im puking on this problem atm ><05:34
Kjellvizso im picking the easy solution for now05:34
davfA piece of info. There has been a change in the way bt is handled has something to do with hcid.05:34
Kjellvizok ?05:35
davfI am not versed in bt yet but I'm sure I will be once I get through this.05:35
Kjellvizhehe05:35
Kjellvizwell i aint got time to tinker any longer05:35
davfyou should be working though.05:35
davfok cya.05:35
Kjellvizhave a exam to study for ><05:35
davfgood luk05:35
Kjellvizwell i have no idea on how to pair devices even05:35
Kjellvizi followed runlevelten up to the part where we clicked the device05:36
Kjellvizgot the services listed05:36
Kjellvizand there i am now05:36
davfyou try clicking a service?05:36
davfI may have a cheap and dirty fix for you but it isn't secure.05:37
Kjellvizyep, it tries to save it like im downloading a file05:37
Kjellvizsecure as in others might access my comp via blth ?05:38
davfin /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf05:38
davfif they are close enough.05:38
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Kjellvizthats not gonna be a issue, its a stationary laptop ^^05:38
davfjust as a test though. maybe try setting security auto to security none.05:38
davfin that file.05:38
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Kjellvizyep?05:40
KjellvizAHA OK05:40
Kjellvizlol ill test05:40
davfjust a thought really, anyway, I'm gonna run.05:40
arunI'm thinking of getting a Dell laptop soon. I was wondering if wifi works 'out of the box', or if I have to configure anything for it to work...05:40
davfcay kjellviz05:40
davfcya05:40
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Kjellvizyou leaving ?05:40
davfyup05:41
Kjellvizok05:41
Kjellvizthanks for the tip05:41
tom_Hi, im having some trouble with apt. It crashed installing a java plugin for firefox and now whenever i run it it thinks theres another pt proces running. How can i fix this?05:41
Kjellvizand good luck yourself =)05:41
davf;)05:41
Kjellvizarun: that depends heavily on what model you choose and what wifi card it comes with05:41
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arunKjellviz: any recommended models?05:42
arunor wifi cards?05:42
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Kjellvizarun: some models have the option of choosing wifi card, so try looking for one that has support05:42
Kjellvizarun: dunno, havent really looked into wireless cards on linux05:42
Kjellvizarun: i chose the XPS M1710 for other reasons than mobility :P05:43
arun:)05:43
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Kjellvizhavent tried the wifi yet05:43
aruni just want to know if it's easy to set up wifi on laptops05:43
Kjellvizinfact ive even disabled it cos it gave me issues starting the livecd05:44
Kjellvizbut thats a known issue with fiesty fawn, not the card itself ><05:44
aruni will be using different connections.. wifi at a client's office and ethernet at home05:44
arunso how easy is it to switch, etc05:44
Kjellvizi had no problems setting up xubuntu on my C610 using a pcmcia linksys card05:44
Kjellvizbut i was in luck that my card worked05:44
Kjellvizhave had other cards that made me wanna pull out every hair and nail on my body05:45
Kjellvizrather than trying to get them to work ><05:45
Kjellvizbut im off05:47
Kjellvizcya later05:47
Kjellviz=)05:47
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melkorI had a question about html aethstetics05:53
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fairesHello, I've just installed a dapper drake version, and want to upgrade it to Feisty.05:57
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fairesI readed at www.kubuntu.org that I should first upgrade to Edgy, and it recommended me to use update manager05:58
BluesKajfaires, you'll have to upgrade to edfgy first then from edgy to feisty ...think i'd just DL feisty and reinstall, but that's your choice05:59
BluesKajerr edgy05:59
fairesBut update manager opens, say to me that there's an Edgy available, but when it starts to see if it's available, it simply close...05:59
BluesKajyes, cuz there's no way to upgrade to feisty from dapper06:00
BluesKajdirectly06:00
t_mauschange your sources.list06:00
t_mausand type in the console apt-get dist-upgrade06:01
t_mausnormally there should be no problem06:01
t_mauswhy do you want do upgrade von drapper to feisty06:01
fairesBluesKaj: but is there any way to update to edgy using update manager06:01
BluesKajt-maus that may break some apps ...it's not that easy06:01
t_mauswhich apps06:01
erovBluesKaj: it may break it initially.. but its never broken.. have done that since 5.10.. im now running gutsy current ;)06:02
erov100% i might add..06:02
erovi wouldnt recommend it.. but it does work and is never totally irrecoverable06:02
fairest_maus: I want feisty because of KDE3.506:03
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BluesKaj too many cooks here ...if you guys think he can jump a distro be my guest and help him do it ...i want no part in that kind of update06:03
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t_mausdoes anybody know when the next realese of a long term support will come06:03
aubadet_maus: 8.0406:04
wsjuniorwhere knetworkconf settings are stored?06:04
aubadeSupposedly, it isn't concrete.06:04
fairest_maus: and I'm not used to work with debian-like linuxes, so I'm afraid to crap it out, and lose my last night's job... :)06:04
t_mausthx :)06:04
fairesBluesKaj: is there any way of upgrading from dapper to edgy using Update Manager?06:05
t_maus@faires, ok is there no special line for sources.list that you can add so that drapper drake also have the new kde06:05
BluesKajfaires, not that i know of06:05
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fairesoh ... :(06:05
fairest_maus: sorry, I don't think I understood your phrase... :(06:06
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t_maus@faires  wait a second06:06
BluesKajthere maybe one in update manager ..I ve just never done it, faires06:06
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vviz\lappyHaving some problems. Bought myself a Vaio laptop with a blu-ray writer. The install recognizes the drive, and lets me install the system. But after install, the system does not recognize my cdrom anymore (/dev/hda). Anyone with similiar problems?06:07
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vviz\lappyWorked fine with Gentoo06:07
yotuxare the md5sums different for torrents compared to downloads?06:07
vviz\lappyIt's the only pata-drive in the sytem. All SATA (internal and external) is recognized fine.06:08
erovok.. wanna update? "cd /etc/apt ; sudo nano sources.list ; ^W ^R dapper with edgy ^X Y ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"  that's erov's way but i also stay barefoot, take baths every other day and drive till my cars on E, play the bango and permantly missing one tooth with more to follow.. :) j/k thats if you want to grow hair on your chest, faires06:08
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faireserov: hehehehe, thanks, but I still prefer to try first the chicken's way... :)06:10
wsjuniorwhere knetworkconf settings are stored?06:11
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stephenyo06:13
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Jack_SparrowHello All... HOw do I change themes in Kubuntu..06:15
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stephen_thats easy06:16
stephen_i only got linux last night06:16
stephen_and i know06:16
stephen_go to the start menu06:17
stephen_and system setting06:17
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stephen_then click on appearance06:17
Jack_SparrowDo I just drop the tar file onto the manager linke in ubuntu?06:18
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stephen_i dunno bout that06:18
stephen_i dunno what a tar is06:18
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Jack_Sparrownp06:18
Jack_SparrowI wanted to add a theme I got from kde-look.org06:18
faireserov BluesKaj t_maus: thanks a lot for the help. I'll try something else here, and, if it all fails, I'll try the [nice|toughe] r way... :)06:19
stephen_look on that site for a tutorial06:20
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stephen_do you knoow how to install apps?06:20
Jack_SparrowYes06:20
stephen_if you help me06:20
stephen_i will search with you06:20
stephen_i need to install rar06:20
Jack_SparrowNot necessary...06:20
stephen_lol06:20
stephen_:(06:20
Jack_SparrowLEt me get you going on installing apps06:21
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stephen_ill help you too06:21
Jack_Sparrowclick on add remove progs..06:21
Jack_Sparrowenter your password06:21
stephen_done06:21
Jack_Sparrowadept will come up06:22
stephen_yes ^^06:22
Jack_Sparrowin search try ksudoku06:22
Jack_Sparrowjust as an example06:22
stephen_no results :(06:23
Jack_Sparrowactually that is already installed06:23
Jack_Sparrowcheck your spelling06:23
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Jack_Sparrowit came up here06:23
stephen_says applications/games06:24
Jack_Sparrowyou might need to enable some repositories06:24
stephen_i dunno how :(06:24
Jack_Sparrowsearch for chess06:24
Jack_Sparrowsee what comes up..06:24
Jack_SparrowI dont use KDE wm much.. I am more of a gnome person06:24
stephen_xboard06:24
stephen_but its greyed out06:25
Jack_Sparrowevery other line is a different color.. try to select it06:25
stephen_it keeps crashing06:26
stephen_lol06:26
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Jack_Sparrowsorry I cant be more help.. like I said I use Ubuntu.. aka Gnome..06:26
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stephen_im using kubuntu06:27
Jack_SparrowI was just looking at KDE to show my niece something with the theme06:27
stephen_hmmm06:28
stephen_i just updated my kubuntu06:28
Jack_Sparrowsomeone will be around that can help you06:28
stephen_but it still crashes in some apps06:28
stephen_:(06:28
stephen_ok06:28
stephen_thx for trying mate06:28
Jack_SparrowI prefer fresh installs to upgrades..06:28
stephen_is ubuntu easier?06:28
k31thhum kde feels less complete than gnome ?06:29
Jack_SparrowI use apt-get or synaptic for most of my software changes06:29
Jack_SparrowKDE feels more like windows..06:29
stephen_lol06:29
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k31th?06:29
stephen_ill download ubuntu then06:29
Jack_SparrowIt took a little bit longer for me to get comfortable with gnome.. but now I love it06:29
Jack_Sparrowone sec..06:29
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k31thhow on earth does kde feel like windows06:30
stephen_i dont like the kde font06:30
Jack_Sparrowyou can add ubuntu-desktop06:30
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Jack_Sparrowand switch between window managers at your login prompt06:30
BluesKajJack_Sparrow, go promote gnome elsewhere , this is KDE country :)06:30
stephen_is there a windows emulator?06:30
Jack_Sparrowyou can try in terminal  apt-get install ubuntu-desktop06:30
Jack_Sparrowblue... then help him.06:31
BluesKajjust got back from errands06:31
stephen_you can help me ?06:31
Jack_SparrowI wantn't looking to promote either..06:31
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Jack_SparrowDosent sound like it06:32
BluesKajthe guy comes into the expecting help with Kubuntu not ubuntu...what's the trouble stephen_ ?06:32
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stephen_i need to install rar and java06:33
stephen_im not sure about how to since i only installed kubuntu yesterday night06:33
runleveltenKDE feels more like windows?! Are you smoking drugs?06:33
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stephen_be nice to him lol he tryed to help06:33
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stephen_can someone direct me to a tutorial to install java and rar06:35
stephen_please06:35
WhtWolfTeraDyne!java06:35
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.06:35
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BluesKajopen adept and type unrar, stephen_06:35
WhtWolfTeraDyne!info unrar06:36
ubotuunrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.7.3-1 (feisty), package size 94 kB, installed size 228 kB06:36
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WhtWolfTeraDyneBluesKaj: That won't help if he doesn't have multiverse enabled.06:36
stephen_no results for unrar06:36
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BluesKajright06:36
stephen_i need to enable multiverse06:37
WhtWolfTeraDyne!multiverse06:37
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:37
stephen_but dunno how06:37
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WhtWolfTeraDynewhat ubotu just put up will help.06:37
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stephen_i looked at that earlier06:37
stephen_and was confused06:38
stephen_lol06:38
BluesKajok , best way is to edit the sources.list stephen_ .alt+f2 type 'kdesu /etc/apt/sources.list'06:38
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chaotichey06:39
WhtWolfTeraDynehey chaotic.06:39
runleveltenhi chaotic :)06:39
chaoticyyeah    i   just installed xp  on a free  partition06:39
chaotichmmmm06:39
WhtWolfTeraDyne...06:39
Ace2016BluesKaj: sure about that?06:39
BluesKajnow we are going to delete the # infront of lines the begin with .deb06:40
runleveltenchaotic: Oh, I'm sorry, my condolences.06:40
chaotici cant boot linux06:40
stephen_i typed that and it asked for for the password06:40
stephen_and i entered it06:40
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stephen_and nothing happened06:40
chaoticntldr06:40
WhtWolfTeraDyne!grub | chaotic06:40
ubotuchaotic: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:40
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Ace2016kdesu kwrite  then file > open and find the file open and edit06:40
stephen_is ubotu a bot?06:40
BluesKajstephen , try again sometimes it takes a fe tries06:40
BluesKajfew06:40
Ace2016stephen_: http://ace2016.net/tutorials/linux/run-windows-xp-applications-seamlessly-on-your-linux-desktop06:41
Ace2016wait nevermind06:41
Ace2016forget that06:41
WhtWolfTeraDynestephen_: "kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list06:41
Ace2016it was in my shift+inset06:41
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Ace2016what i wanted was shift+delete06:41
Ace2016:(06:41
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BluesKajok , Ace2016 do want to help ...then take over if you wish ..toomany cooks confuses06:41
stephen_IM INTO THE FILE WOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!06:41
Ace2016nope you carry on, i just wanted to let you know since you might not have realised yet06:42
BluesKajWhtWolfTeraDyne, ok , best way is to edit the sources.list stephen_ .alt+f2 type 'kdesu /etc/apt/sources.list'06:42
stephen_so what do i edit now in this file?06:42
Ace2016!easysource06:42
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic06:42
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stephen_ive opened the file already06:42
moonshine!codecs06:42
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:42
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WhtWolfTeraDyneBluesKaj: You missed it again...06:42
stephen_so im in the file........now what?06:43
BluesKajdelete the # in front of source lines that start with .deb06:43
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BluesKajthere are prolly just 2 or 306:43
stephen_source lines?06:43
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BluesKajlines then06:44
stephen_im confused :S06:44
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WhtWolfTeraDynestephen_: the lines that start with "# deb". Remove the #06:44
stephen_oh06:44
stephen_i see06:44
stephen_thx06:44
stephen_ok06:44
stephen_done06:44
WhtWolfTeraDynestephen_: now save it.06:44
WhtWolfTeraDyneand close out06:44
stephen_ok06:45
stephen_done06:45
BluesKajclick on save , then in the konsole do 'sudo aptitude update'06:45
apkppl hi06:45
stephen_the terminal program?06:45
BluesKajyes06:45
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apkany body there?06:46
WhtWolfTeraDynestephen_: If you want a graphical option, you can use the "Fetch Updates" button in Adept to do the same thing.06:46
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stephen_its installing06:46
stephen_thanks a lot guys06:46
WhtWolfTeraDyneapk: There's people here. What do you need help with?06:46
stephen_i think its finished installing06:47
apkyes, I need help with amarok, how to see non utf symbols in tags?06:47
BluesKajstephen_, check this out as well, it will open up your options to other apps06:47
BluesKaj!sourc-omatic06:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sourc-omatic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:48
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BluesKaj!sourco-matic06:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sourco-matic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:48
WhtWolfTeraDyneapk: That might be better asked in #amarok .06:48
BluesKajgeezus06:48
WhtWolfTeraDyne!source-o-matic06:48
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic06:48
apkthx06:48
chaotichttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30022/06:48
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chaoticwhich one do i mount06:48
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BluesKajthx WhtWolfTeraDyne06:49
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WhtWolfTeraDyne!grub > WhtWolfTeraDyne06:50
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BluesKajstephen_, did you get that source-o-matic suggestion /06:50
chaotic!grub06:50
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:50
chaoticcan i make a grub cdr06:50
stephen_ok i ran that source-omatic thing06:51
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chaoticmkdir /mnt/root06:51
chaoticmkdir: cannot create directory `/mnt/root': File exists06:51
K-RyanAnyone know what to do if your computer "plays" sounds, but you can't hear them? I don't have anything muted unless it's something hidden very well.06:52
BluesKajstephen_, now you'll have more sources available in the sources.list  which is a vehicle that adept and synaptic use to navigate to the repositories that have the apps that you may want06:52
stephen_lol i cant hear anything either06:52
stephen_ok06:53
stephen_so do i do that thing again?06:53
BluesKajwell apt and aptitude as well06:53
stephen_delete the #06:53
K-RyanI don't hear anything, but I don't get errors, I hate it.06:53
BluesKajno, they are already done for you06:53
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stephen_ok06:53
stephen_and this will allow me to install java and rar?06:54
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BluesKajstephen_, just check your souces list like you did earlier06:54
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stephen_ok06:55
stephen_now some more updates are available :)06:55
BluesKajit depends on how you answered the questions in the source-o-matic page ...it generates the repository adresses to look at for the apps you want06:55
stephen_i ticked all the boxes lol06:56
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stephen_ill brb im updating the system06:57
BluesKajok, so you have a completely updated list ...you just have to activate it bu doing sudo aptitude update in the terminal ... I normally ignore the adept updater cuz it's buggy06:57
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pclipyay! i just got samba set up and working with windows :)06:57
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pclipall in vmware as well ;)06:58
BluesKajcongrats pclip06:58
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pclipnow i need to figure out how to install pgsql06:58
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dave_how do i go about installing nethack? it's a tgz file :o06:59
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K-RyanDoes anyone see anything wrong in this? I'm trying to figure out why my sound isn't working, http://pastebin.com/m38ad199e06:59
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dave_i've tried lots of commands :(06:59
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pclipohh - how can i stop firefox beeping when i do a search and it doesn't find the word on the page?07:00
stephen:O 20 minutes rmain on update07:00
dave_yeah that's annoying i wnana know how to change that too :)07:00
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BluesKajstephen, I hope it works for you , after done i recommend dumping adept updater cuz it's buggy and can cause probs with some apps ...best way is to update with aptitude or apt07:02
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iggzhey guys07:02
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stevo111lol07:02
stevo111im on my ds now07:02
stevo111irc on nds :O07:03
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iggzi had a question, if you don't mind, what's the difference between wifi0 and ath0 interfaces07:03
iggzfor wireless cards07:03
stephen_oooh07:04
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stephen_i need to get my wifi max working on linux07:04
K-RyanMine worked out of the box =)07:04
jhutchinsiggz: It's essentially two different layers of driver.07:04
K-RyanD-Link WNA-233007:04
jhutchinsiggz: One loads the firmware for the card, the other talks to it.07:05
iggzi want to monitor my up and download speeds, with knetstat, which should i monitor?07:05
jhutchinsiggz: Well, I don't have mine up right now, but I'd just have to try one, if that didn't show anything try the other.07:06
iggzthe problem is that they both show stuff, it's alittle different though07:06
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stephen_juan...07:06
stephen_you was on dsorganize07:06
iggzi'll just monitor wifi, thanks alot07:07
iggzfor your help07:07
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stephen_hmmm07:08
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juani have a small question07:08
K-Ryan!ask07:09
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:09
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chaotic!grub07:09
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto07:09
stephen_stfu ubotu07:09
juanhow do i clean my hp printer07:09
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K-RyanClean?07:09
juando maintentenance07:09
stephen_lol07:09
K-RyanPhysical?07:09
moonshinecan anyone explain why kaffeine will play an .avi but VLC won't?07:09
WhtWolfTeraDynejuan: Not exactly the best place to ask...07:09
juanprinting is not idle anymore07:09
stephen_take it to the shop07:09
jhutchinsK-Ryan: There's a 'clean' cycle most inkjets need to run periodically.07:10
K-Ryanmoonshine: Codecs probably07:10
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K-Ryanjhutchins: Never heard of it07:10
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WhtWolfTeraDynejhutchins: Nor have I...07:10
jhutchinsmoonshine: Try mplayer or vlc.07:10
moonshineK-Ryan: that's what i'm thinking .. got all the xine ones ..07:10
juanthere was a package por hp that enabled this07:10
K-Ryanmoonshine: Maybe VLC has certain codec packages just for it07:11
moonshinejhutchins: vlc won't play, kaffeine *will*07:11
jhutchinsjuan: Is there a sequence of buttons you can press or hold while you power on to do it?07:11
moonshinethis only happened after the feisty upgrade as well :/07:11
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MidMark!paste07:11
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:11
jhutchinsmoonshine: Oh.  My bad.07:11
moonshinebizarre07:11
juannot that i know of07:11
jhutchinsmoonshine: Try mplayer then.07:11
moonshinesame error07:11
K-Ryanmoonshine: Why not just use Kaffeine?07:11
K-Ryan=)07:11
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stephen_y is linux so complex :(07:12
moonshine"illegal instruction"07:12
BluesKajmoonshine, uninstall, then reinstall VLC07:12
K-RyanIt's not that complex07:12
K-RyanIt just let's you do what Windows won't07:12
stephen_it is too install apps lol07:12
jhutchinsjuan: There are a number of HP utilities available in kubuntu, one of those would probably do it.  There's a package called mtink that handles many printers.07:12
K-Ryanstephen_: That's easy, sudo apt-get install <package>07:12
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WhtWolfTeraDynestephen_: Because Linux isn't Windows. It actually lets you do what you want instead of doing what it will let you.07:12
jhutchins!find mtink07:12
ubotuFound: mtink, mtink-doc07:12
K-RyanRather than searching the net, downloading an installer, installing the program07:12
stephen_package?07:13
jhutchins!info mtink07:13
ubotumtink: Status monitor and configuration tool for Epson inkjet printers. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.0.14-2 (feisty), package size 154 kB, installed size 608 kB07:13
stephen_is package the name of the file?07:13
jhutchinsjuan: I know it says epson, but it works for other brands too.07:13
BluesKaj!package | stephen_07:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about package - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:13
K-Ryan!app07:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about app - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:13
WhtWolfTeraDyneDumb bot...07:13
KjellvizHi, does kernel .16 change anything related to bluetooth compared to .15 ?07:13
juanok, thanks, i'm running it07:14
BluesKaj!dpkg07:14
K-RyanYou killed him!07:14
ubotudpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.07:14
K-RyanGuess not,,07:14
K-Ryan*...07:14
jhutchins!find hplip07:14
ubotuFound: hplip, hplip-data, hplip-dbg, hplip-doc, hpijs-ppds07:14
BluesKajhe's abit slow today ...poor bot :)07:14
stephen_!oooh07:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about oooh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:14
jhutchins!info hplip07:14
ubotuhplip: HP Linux Printing and Imaging System (HPLIP). In component main, is optional. Version 1.7.3-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 605 kB, installed size 2776 kB07:14
stephen_!your mum07:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about your mum - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:15
stephen_looool07:15
K-Ryan!botabuse07:15
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ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...07:15
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WhtWolfTeraDyneLAG...07:15
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Kjellvizplease stop spamming bullshit07:15
K-Ryan!ohmy07:15
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.07:15
stephen_im on my ds lol using irc its great07:15
moonshineso i'm assuming an apt-upgrade to feisty doesn't include multiverse or universe repos?07:15
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WhtWolfTeraDynestephen_: there's an IRC app for the DS?07:16
K-RyanApparantly07:16
stephen_yes im on it lol07:16
Kjellvizdoes kernel .16 change anything related to bluetooth compared to .15 ?07:16
K-Ryan!bluetooth07:16
ubotuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup07:16
K-RyanKjellviz: That's your best bet until you get an answer in here07:16
stephen_there is 2 apps for irc on ds07:16
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K-Ryanstephen_: #kubuntu-offtopic07:16
stephen_ircd and dsorganize irc07:16
stephen_wtf ryan07:17
WhtWolfTeraDynestephen_: Thanks. K-Ryan: he was answering my question.07:17
KjellvizK-Ryan: thats a guide on how to install, not wether the kernel has updates or not ?07:17
jhutchinsKjellviz: Try booting back to the previous kernel and see what it does.07:17
K-RyanWhtWolfTeraDyne: I know, but this isn't the place07:17
stephen_shush lol07:17
WhtWolfTeraDyneWhatever...07:17
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K-RyanKjellviz: I wasn't sure if it would help at all, so I just threw it out there07:17
Kjellvizjhutchins: have not updated yet07:17
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K-Ryanstephen_: They are strict about keeping on topic in here07:18
jhutchinsKjellviz: Didn't you say an update had knocked out your bluetooth?07:18
Kjellvizjhutchins: because i know that in between those 80 updates, there is one that messes up my bluetooth07:18
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Kjellvizjhutchins: yes, but ive reinstalled07:18
jhutchinsAh.07:18
WhtWolfTeraDyneK-Ryan: In my two weeks here, that has yet to truely be seen.07:18
Tm_Tstephen_: better behave, thanks07:18
gnomefreakTm_T: all we have to do is op up :)07:18
Kjellvizand now im scanning the updatelist for a possible reason07:18
K-RyanWhtWolfTeraDyne: Then you're lucky07:19
K-RyanOr have bad timing07:19
Kjellvizmy best guess so far is kernel upgrade07:19
stephen_im installing 7.04 so thats why im on my ds07:19
jhutchinsKjellviz: Well, that's easy, because if it _is_ the kernel, just use the grub menu to choose the earlier one.07:19
Tm_Tgnomefreak: yeah, I'm scary old hermit07:19
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gnomefreak;)07:19
K-Ryanstephen_: You can run stuff while upgrading you know07:19
WhtWolfTeraDyneK-Ryan: I've seen quite a bit of offopic here. By various regulars, even.07:19
stephen_i know but just in case07:20
Kjellvizjhutchins: yes, but if thats not the issue then im back at reinstalling (the 5th time today or so)07:20
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Kjellvizjhutchins: so i just wanted to check if someone knew what the kernel upgrade contained07:20
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K-RyanWhtWolfTeraDyne: Doesn't make it right07:20
jhutchinsKjellviz: Hah!  Well, maybe it's time you figured out how to do rollbacks of specific packages!07:20
stephen_i like the facts that linux has almost no viruses and the free apps07:20
Kjellvizyes, that would be nice ><07:20
jhutchinsKjellviz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto07:21
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stephen_i just need to learn how to use linux lol07:21
Kjellvizjhutchins: but, if i install the updates, and it IS infact the kernel, if i boot .15 from grub will all the other updates be gone or is it like booting before ALL those updates ?07:21
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jhutchinsWhtWolfTeraDyne: When I moderate a channel, my rule is generally that offtopic is ok when there's nothing else going on, but it has to be polite and friendly, and it has to shut up if there's real traffic or anybody objects.07:22
Kjellvizjhutchins: with that, are you saying i should update using apt-get instead of adept updater ?07:22
chaoticichey i installed   grub still no loader what should i do07:22
chaoticic!grub07:22
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto07:22
WhtWolfTeraDynejhutchins: Now that's a rule I can agree with...07:22
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Tm_Tjhutchins: that's what I think rest of us think too07:22
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jhutchinsKjellviz: That would probably be a good idea, useing apt-get.07:22
jhutchinsKjellviz: Gives you a bit more control over what's happening.07:22
jhutchinsKjellviz: Also, that's the tool you would use to update.07:23
Kjellvizso, basically apt-get update will suffice ?07:23
jhutchinsKjellviz: As far as grub and the kernel go, grub allows you to select which kernel you boot to, but the rest of the updates stay in place.07:23
stephen_so whats the command to install apps?07:23
K-Ryansudo apt-get install07:23
Kjellvizi just used the autoupdater that is iin my systray nagging that theres updates availiable07:23
K-Ryanor sudo aptitude install07:23
jhutchinsKjellviz: The kernel is an exception to most packages, it is never actually upgraded, the new one is installed beside the old.07:24
Tm_Tor sudo wajig install07:24
stephen_thx ryan07:24
Kjellvizjhutchins: ok thanks a lot07:24
Tm_Tor <your apt ui>07:24
K-Ryanstephen_: Np07:24
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WhtWolfTeraDyneOk. Quick question. Is there anyway to make a Live-CD that can read off of a partition at boot and use user settings that are stored there by logging in wuth that UN\Pass?07:24
stephen_this is one of the friendliest channels ive been on07:24
WhtWolfTeraDyneso that*, with*07:25
Kjellvizjhutchins: so basically i just apt-get update then apt-get upgrade ?07:25
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lowsix2hey07:25
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jhutchinsWhtWolfTeraDyne: Yes, knoppix will do that.  I would look at how they do it, there's nothing automatic to do it in *buntu.07:25
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jhutchinsKjellviz: Yes, exactly.07:25
Kjellvizand then if something messes up i can use apt-get remove to uninstall spesific packages07:25
lowsix2can someone help me with an upgrade to feisty fawn?07:25
Kjellvizok sweet07:26
Kjellvizive been using apt-get before07:26
Kjellvizim just in the habit of windows update ^^07:26
jhutchinsKjellviz: Having that howto as a "cheat sheet" comes in pretty handy.07:26
stephen_ive never installed an app before07:26
gnomefreaklowsix2: put the errors on pastebin please07:26
Kjellviz"ohh a shiny popup telling me to install" "click ok"07:26
stephen_firefox just ran lol07:26
lowsix2where is pastebin?07:26
jhutchinsKjellviz: Ah!  That would explain why so many people rely on it!07:26
gnomefreak!pastebin07:26
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:26
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K-Ryanstephen_: It's actually nice and easy07:26
gnomefreak;p^^^07:26
gnomefreaklowsix2: ^^^07:26
jhutchinsKjellviz: It's been so long since I actually ran windows, I don't think of stuff like that.07:26
Kjellvizhehe07:27
lowsix2ubotu ... willdo07:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about willdo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:27
sercanHow can I mount my Philips GoGear?07:27
WhtWolfTeraDynejhutchins: Ok. I'll try creating my own Kubuntu LiveCD with that feature... if I can figure out how they did it.07:27
K-Ryan!ubotu07:27
lowsix2lol, looks like a bot07:27
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots07:27
stephen_iit is07:27
K-Ryan=)07:27
lowsix2cool07:27
gnomefreaklowsix2: it is a bot07:27
pclipon a shortcut for the desktop, can i run 2 / 3 commands from one lnk?07:27
vbgunzamarok refuses to start up :(07:27
K-RyanIt's always funny when people think he's a real person07:27
lowsix2well, the error isn't much larger than a url07:27
gnomefreakpclip: yes if you make a script and launch the script07:28
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lowsix2so should I use pastebin?07:28
pclipgnomefreak - is a script just a normal text file made executable?07:28
Kjellvizman im crossing my fingers on this one !!!07:28
K-Ryanvbgunz: Lucky you, mine plays whatever I tell it to, except I hear nothing, I don't even get an error07:28
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gnomefreaklowsix2: go to the pastebin url and paste the error and as much of it as you can to the pastebin link07:28
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vbgunzL/07:28
vbgunz:/07:28
Kjellvizive spent far to much time on trying to fix it already =(07:28
gnomefreaklowsix2: than click send and give us the new link07:28
lowsix2k gnome .. tx07:28
stephen_im bored07:28
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K-Ryanpclip: Kind of07:29
Kjellvizjhutchins: how can i uninstall that autoupdater, so its icon wont tempt me to update soon again ? :P07:29
pclipkind of?07:29
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jhutchinsK-Ryan: Have you configured the sound interface for it?07:29
K-Ryanjhutchins: I've done everything that I can think of for it, that doesn't sound familiar though. Where's it?07:30
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stephen_linux makes youtube sexy07:30
jhutchinsKjellviz: Heh.  Um, not sure, but I think you can right click on it and configure it not to start, or use kcontrol to remove it from the list of autostart programs.07:30
jhutchins!autostart | Kjellviz07:30
ubotuKjellviz: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.07:30
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vbgunzdamn, I don't have any plugins. not sure why amarok won't start up :(07:31
stephen_i just need java07:31
Kjellvizjhutchins: heh, that one ive already got ^^  i guess ill live =)07:31
simon_does anybody know how to configure an usb stick, that transfers sound to a hifi07:31
Kjellvizallrite07:31
Kjellvizwish me luck07:31
Kjellvizhehe07:31
stephen_oooh usb to hifi sounds sexy07:32
jhutchinsvbgunz: Try starting it from a console, see what you get.  (Oh, and watch the language, children present.)07:32
simon_lsusb lists the usb stick called "jvc usb wireless transmitter" without any problems07:32
sercanKubuntu did't auto mount my Philips GoGear player when plug in. How can I get work it?07:32
vbgunzjhutchins: nothing, it just never returns when launched from console :/07:32
stephen_woa too many questions lol07:32
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pclipwhere is 'd***' considered a swear word07:33
jhutchinspclip: Here.07:33
wordOwned.07:33
stephen_language was the word used lol07:33
pclipwhere's here?07:33
jhutchinspclip: iirc it's one of the "Seven nasty words" - see George Carlin.07:33
K-Ryan#kubuntu07:33
stephen_in my head07:33
gnomefreaklowsix2: you have the link ready07:33
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jhutchinsvbgunz: Hm.07:34
jhutchinsvbgunz: Try un-installing it with the --purge option, then reinstalling it.07:34
vbgunz:O07:34
jhutchinsvbgunz: I've never had it just hang for me, it even handles when the collection drive is off-line.07:34
vbgunzI guess it may be worth a try07:34
stephen_is their a gui for installing apps?07:35
K-RyanAdept or Synaptic07:35
jhutchinsvbgunz: Also make sure you give it plenty of time if you've configured it to scan a large collection - like several minutes.07:35
K-RyanThey're in the "System" menu under your K Menu07:35
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vbgunzhmm07:35
stephen_i mean ones not on their list07:35
K-RyanSynaptic and Adept_manager are the only ones I've heard of07:36
pclipi'm sure i can think of many more nasty words than seven ;)07:36
K-RyanDunno about any others07:36
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stephen_and i dont have synaptix07:36
pclipok, so a script is an executable text file right?07:36
K-Ryanstephen_ then go to your shell and type in sudo apt-get install synaptic07:36
gnomefreakpclip: for non support related topics join #kubuntu-offtopic07:36
stephen_maybe iit will be there after i install 7.0407:36
pclipthat's a support question right?07:37
vbgunzjhutchins: it wants to remove kubuntu-desktop07:37
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gnomefreakpclip: thats not support related07:37
jhutchinsvbgunz: Don't worry about that.  kubuntu-desktop is just a container that pulls all the rest of the stuff in.07:37
BigLhey i have a q07:37
BigLi have a few internal hard disks lying around, for now nad for future use, is there some cable/etc i can get that can lets say hookup to my laptop via usb or something while other side can connect to internal hard disk and kinda make a drive i can go browse in the internal?07:37
gnomefreak13:36 <           pclip > i'm sure i can think of many more nasty words than  seven ;)07:37
jhutchinsvbgunz: It's like the cardboard box your system came in, you don't need it once you have the system.07:37
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gnomefreakthat is not suport related07:37
vbgunzjhutchins: do I need it for any future upgrades or anything?07:37
lowsix2can I use the ubuntu gui tool to upgrade kubuntu?07:37
pclipwell, i'm asking how to make a script - that support?07:38
jhutchinsvbgunz: No, the individual packages will install their own updates.07:38
gnomefreaklowsix2: you can but the errors is still gonna be there07:38
pclipahh i see :)07:38
vbgunzok07:38
gumjoI'm trying to format my drive with osx on it, but both gparted and qtparted say that the partition table is damaged and it cant be formatted...is the drive irrepairable?07:38
K-Ryanpclip: That's not really Kubuntu support though07:38
vbgunzi'll try07:38
lowsix2gnome ... that was what I first tried, I was wondering if it couldn't be used and thats why I had the errors.  obviously not07:38
gnomefreakpclip: see #bash or #perl or #python or whatever you want the script to be in07:38
pclipwell, i'd like a shortcut for the desktop07:39
gnomefreaklowsix2: it can but i need to see error to find out what is stopping it07:39
K-RyanRight click, create new, link to application07:39
jhutchinspclip: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html has some basics.07:39
gnomefreakpclip: doesnt really matter i use bash but some perfer other languages07:39
lowsix2heres my error trying to use the gui to upgrade from edgy to feisty fawn http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/30024/07:39
stephen_can you run live cd on school computers?07:39
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K-Ryanstephen_: Of course you "can", whether or not you get in trouble though...07:40
lowsix2any help is appreciated, I may try command line07:40
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gnomefreaklowsix2: one minute07:40
lowsix2tx07:40
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vbgunzjhutchins: ok, I purged it, am reinstalling it now07:40
gnomefreaklowsix2: sudo apt-get update07:40
gnomefreaklowsix2: let me know if it errors07:40
jhutchinshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes07:40
pclipthe teacher prolly wouldn't even know what you're doing07:40
K-RyanBut I'm sure they'd flip07:40
vbgunzwow, amarok still don't start :(07:41
stephen_lol theyd kill me07:41
lowsix2gnome .. it does, let me fix that first07:41
K-Ryanstephen_: There's your answer then =)07:41
jhutchinsvbgunz: Ok, you might ask in #amarok, although they'll probably say it's a kubuntu problem.  Sorry, no idea what it could be.07:41
stephen_update tool crashed :O07:41
chaoticicThe file /mnt/root/boot/grub/stage2 not read correctly.07:41
chaoticici got that what should i do07:41
jhutchinsstephen_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes07:41
vbgunzno problem07:41
gnomefreaklowsix2: apt-get update gave you errors?07:42
jhutchinschaoticic: What did you do before that happened?07:42
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chaoticicgrub-install --root-directory=/mnt/root /dev/hda07:42
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stephen_lol the update only crashed when deleting obsolete software, will my system be updated?07:43
jhutchinsstephen_: Sorry, too many threads, I've lost track of who's doing what.07:43
stephen_it was right at the last minute07:43
gnomefreakstephen_: when it finishes it will tell you07:43
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chaoticicwhat should i do07:44
gnomefreakchaoticic: maybe try hda0,0 or however it is named see !grub for more info07:44
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gnomefreakjhutchins: install grub07:45
gnomefreakthe grub-install command gave that away07:45
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gnomefreaklowsix2: anyway if they are the only errors sudo apt-get update or closing update-manager and restarting it or refresh it(i think there is an option for refresh) should fix your errors07:46
Krist007hello07:47
chaoticici get a stage 2 error trying to install grub what can i do07:47
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intelikeypop Quiz:  who can propperly diagnose this error message ?      .bash_profile: line 5: .: command not found07:47
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gnomefreakintelikey: what is on lines 4-6 of ~/.bashrc07:48
gnomefreakintelikey: most likely you have a stray mark07:48
stephen_where do i find the games i installed from adept?07:48
graham_Hey, I have a soundcard and onboard sound, I'd like to output sound through my soundcard, how can I do that?07:48
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intelikeygnomefreak it's irrelivant   the error message tells the exct error07:48
lowsix2gnome ... I've tried that, actually the error was because I hadn't closed the gui and it was on feisty, so I closed it and there was another error duplicate so I'm fixing that now07:48
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ZolarDoes any know of a book on KDE that they would recommend?07:49
intelikeygnomefreak this is the line       [ -f ~/.bashrc ]  && . ~/.bashrc07:49
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intelikeygnomefreak so what is the problem there ?07:49
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gnomefreakintelikey: and when did -f become a command? what are you trying to do?07:49
gnomefreakthis is assuming you didnt define [ -f ~/.bashrc] 07:50
lowsix2-f tests whether file exists07:50
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gnomefreakintelikey: its easier to add simple things and write scripts for more complex things07:51
intelikeygnomefreak the answer is,     enable -n .      has been issued.   thus  .  is nolonger a command.07:51
intelikeyno longer07:51
lowsix2gnome ... fixing the upgrade did the trick07:51
lowsix2update07:51
stephen_lol07:51
stephen_i glitched kolf07:51
intelikeyreposting the error message:   .bash_profile: line 5: .: command not found07:52
gnomefreakintelikey: im gonna guess that bash cant parse that line weather it be due to bash being limited or the file not allowing it07:52
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gnomefreakintelikey: you see the .?07:52
intelikeygnomefreak the answer is,     enable -n .      has been issued.   thus  .  is no longer a command.07:52
intelikeyreposting the error message:   .bash_profile: line 5: .: command not found07:52
intelikey.: command not found07:52
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gnomefreaknotice the && . ~/.bashrc the . should not be there07:53
intelikeyyes it should07:53
gnomefreak. ~/.bashrc means nothing07:53
intelikeywrong07:53
gnomefreakif you are trying to go back a dir it need to be different07:53
intelikeymeans source the file07:53
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lowsix2gnome ... tnx ... uploading now07:54
intelikeygnomefreak you are talking through your hat07:54
gnomefreaklowsix2: yw07:54
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gnomefreakintelikey: first off you are the one with the error. second you dont weant help fine but your best place to get help with it would be #bash07:55
gnomefreakwant*07:55
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gnomefreakintelikey: and for the record . means nothing unless defined in the way you used it something should be infront of it or it will count it as a stray mark07:55
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gnomefreakintelikey: error being bashrc doesnt know what to do with the .07:56
intelikeygnomefreak sorry you are mistaken about .     help .    for info07:56
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chaoticicive  only had kubuntu for a day07:57
K-RyanAnyone know how to check an md5sum in Windows? I'm trying to burn a live cd and the other ones keep breaking07:57
intelikeygnomefreak as i said eariler  . blah   means  source blah07:57
intelikeygnomefreak it's a shell built in07:57
gnomefreakintelikey: your bashrc file disagrees with you07:58
gnomefreakor it would work07:58
Kjellvizjhutchins: hi again =)07:58
Kjellvizjhutchins: ive done apt-get update07:58
stephen_i gtg07:58
stephen_bbl07:58
Kjellvizjhutchins: and its all working great07:58
Kjellvizjhutchins: there's a couple of updates still in the adept updater list that apt-get does not download07:59
intelikeygnomefreak wrong again,  i explained that.  if you would have read my posts rather than thinking you know something you already have learned07:59
intelikeyyou would ^07:59
lowsix2gnome ... actually , I think I'm closer to the real problem now...ipw2200 ... http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/30027/07:59
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BluesKajKjellviz: don't DL them , they could be broken pkges that are better off staying off your system08:00
lowsix2ipw2200 was why I was trying the upgrade and it looks like its flakiness is now preventing the file uploads08:00
lowsix2gonna try again and see if same thing happens08:00
gnomefreakintelikey: did you label where it should be saved?08:00
intelikeygnomefreak  "saved" ?    what are you talking about now ?08:00
KjellvizBluesKaj: evidently, since when i downloaded them last time i ran into problems08:00
gnomefreakintelikey: nothing you same was of help other than the error and you enable -n .08:01
BluesKajthat blasted adept updater should be deleted ...it causes nothing but problems after a couple of updates08:01
KjellvizBluesKaj: you know how to uninstall the adept updater, and if its "ok" (if it wont affect my ability to install other programs etc)08:01
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BluesKajKjellviz:  deleting the updater won't hurt , you can still use adept for pkges you really want08:02
Kjellvizgood08:02
gnomefreakintelikey: the . is still a command enbale -n . is wrong iirc or you didnt save file and restart bash08:02
gnomefreakbut its parsing it as a command08:02
gnomefreakso it still IS08:03
lowsix2yep ... during the downloads my ipw bit it again08:03
KjellvizBluesKaj: cant find it as an individual package though08:03
intelikeygnomefreak when you catch up we'll talk some more about it   :)08:03
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gnomefreaklowsix2: try using gb.archive instead of the archive repos08:03
gnomefreakintelikey: im caught up08:03
intelikeygnomefreak then you are confused, sorry.08:04
BluesKajKjellviz: it's not a pkg , just delete it from the panel or in kcontrol08:04
gnomefreakintelikey: if enabe -n . caused it to no loger be a command why is it parsing the . as a command08:04
Kjellvizi chose quit from the popup menu, it asked me if it shhould start next logon08:04
Kjellvizguess my answer ><08:04
BluesKajKjellviz:  choose no08:04
Kjellvizhehe08:04
intelikeygnomefreak  man bash   has the answers you need.08:04
Kjellvizalready done08:04
BluesKajcool :)08:04
gnomefreakintelikey: something you did is not right either 1 enable -n . should have more or be written differnetly.08:05
KjellvizBluesKaj: thanks for the help/tip!08:05
BluesKajNP, :)08:05
gnomefreakintelikey: jopin #bash than see what they say08:05
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BluesKajbbiab08:06
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intelikeygnomefreak people in #bash understand what i've been trying to teach you, so there is no need in going there.    let me explain it one more time for you.    1.   i disabled the bash builtin '.'   2. i didn't remove it's usage in some runtime comfiguration files   3. thus it generates an error message that the command  .  is not found,   4. i thought that a good teaching point that some might benifit from and posted the  "p08:08
intelikeypop Quiz:  who can propperly diagnose this error message ?      .bash_profile: line 5: .: command not found   <<<<  sorry for the confusion.08:09
savetheWorldintelikey: stop trying to teach people valuable things.  It wastes your time and annoys the pig.   :-)08:09
gnomefreakintelikey: btw just a hint but -enable -n  is not in man bash or bash --help so maybe look for another alternative to -enable -n08:09
intelikeysavetheWorld noted.08:10
intelikeygnomefreak but it's in     enable help   :)08:10
chaoticichad to reinstall kubuntu have to go thru the nvidia deal all over again08:10
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gnomefreakintelikey: im not seeing an enable arg in it08:11
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intelikeytty1 [root@~]  help enable08:11
intelikeyenable: enable [-pnds]  [-a]  [-f filename]  [name ...] 08:11
intelikeytty1 [root@~]  type enable08:12
intelikeyenable is a shell builtin08:12
intelikeytty1 [root@~]  type .08:12
intelikey. is a shell builtin08:12
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intelikeythus enable -n .     disables .08:12
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intelikeynext08:12
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chaoticic!grub08:14
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto08:14
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gnomefreakintelikey: isnt tty in feisty (assuming your in feisty) now dash? tty is the system terminal default == dash unless you use bash in tty08:17
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intelikeygnomefreak your login shell is defined in /etc/passwd reguardless the version08:19
ShockValuehrm.. just followed the howto on installing compiz-fusion.  its working, but for some reason i dont have any window buttons/titlebars/etc.. what did I miss? :)08:19
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intelikeygnomefreak you are probably thinking about  /bin/sh    /bin/sh is normally a symlink to some shell   dash or bash or even csh08:20
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intelikeyShockValue if no one answers try in #ubuntu-effects  the official channel for that08:21
intelikey!beryl08:22
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects08:22
ShockValueah, thanks intel08:22
intelikeywelcome08:23
gnomefreakintelikey: you are having dash read a bash file the enable -n . is bash what if it does something differnet if typed in a dash  term.08:23
intelikeygnomefreak wrong.08:23
gnomefreaksince bashrc is not  ascript08:23
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intelikey<gnomefreak> intelikey: you are having dash...<<<< wrong.  it's bash reding it.   please stop trying to prove that you know more about this than i do.     here if it helps i'll just admit that you do.08:25
intelikeygnomefreak knows bash better than intelikey08:25
gnomefreakintelikey: im not trying to prove anything08:25
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intelikeywell i gave you the answer why do you keep trying to change it ?08:25
gnomefreakintelikey: im not here to prove anything you want help if you typed enable -n . in dash its not the same as in bash08:25
stephenim back08:25
stephen:)08:25
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gnomefreakintelikey: you gave me the problem not the answer. if you had the answer your topic is mute and offtopic. where did you give the answer?08:26
intelikey<intelikey> gnomefreak people in #bash understand what i've been trying to08:27
intelikey            teach you, so there is no need in going there.    let me explain08:27
intelikey            it one more time for you.    1.   i disabled the bash builtin '.'08:27
intelikey             2. i didn't remove it's usage in some runtime comfiguration files08:27
intelikey              3. thus it generates an error message that the command  .  is08:27
intelikey            not found,   4. i thought that a good teaching point that some08:27
intelikey            might benifit from and posted the  "pop Quiz" question that08:27
intelikey            confused you.08:27
intelikeythere ^08:27
stephenO_O08:27
stephenhow did you do that08:27
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intelikeyyeah i did think about it seperating each line.... sorry.08:27
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gnomefreakintelikey: it confused me since its in a support channel next time i will ignore you after i remove you08:27
stephen:O08:28
stephengnome can you tell me how to install java please08:28
intelikeydidn't08:28
gnomefreakstephen: feisty?08:28
stephenstop arguing and help me08:28
stephenlol08:28
stephenwhats fiesty?08:28
stephenif thats the kubuntu then yes08:28
gnomefreakstephen: what ubuntu version?08:28
stephenkubuntu08:28
Kjellviz!kde08:28
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.08:28
arunstephen: which version of kubuntu08:29
stepheni think it is fiesty yes08:29
gnomefreakstephen: 7.04? 6.10? 6.06?08:29
stephenhow do i check?08:29
gnomefreakstephen: lsb_release -a08:29
ardchoillestephen: lsb_release -a08:29
stephenoooh08:29
gnomefreakstephen: you also need to enable multiverse repos08:29
stepheni think i did08:30
gnomefreakstephen: what did lsb_release -a say your version was08:30
stephenit didnt say anything08:30
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gnomefreakdid you type it in temrinal?08:30
stephenoops08:31
gnomefreakterminal08:31
pyrotix__I'm having a problem in windows: my computer won't recognize/doesn't have drivers for my ethernet port, so I cannot connect to the internet. How can I find what my ethernet port is and how would I get drivers for it? I presume I could find the former with linux which can connect to the internet. Help plz.08:31
gnomefreakstephen: look for line like Release:        7.1008:31
pyrotix__Heh I have hardware that works on linux but not windows. Go figure08:31
stephen7.0408:31
RaulHi, I have no sound in my fresh install feisty. I follow all the Comprehensive Sound Problem Solutions Guide v0.5e and everything seems to be Ok... except that I follow with no sound08:31
gnomefreakstephen: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin08:31
stephenthx mate08:31
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gnomefreakstephen: let me know if it says it cant be found08:31
stepheni really like this irc everyone is so helpful08:32
stephenooooh08:32
stephenits done08:32
stepheni think08:32
stephenoops08:32
stephencouldnt find package08:32
gnomefreakstephen: did it say setting up: ....08:32
Zolarare there any good books on KDE?08:32
stephennope08:33
gnomefreakstephen: what did it say?08:33
gnomefreakshort version please08:33
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stephencouldnt find package sun-java6-plugin08:33
gnomefreakstephen: you need to enable multiverse and universe repos08:33
stephen:O08:33
stepheni dunno how08:34
arunstephen: open adept08:34
gnomefreakstephen: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list08:34
stepheni deleted the # already08:34
stephenit must have come back08:34
arunstephen: don't try and do it manually, i think you'll be more comfortable using a GUI08:34
gnomefreakstephen: did you add the word multiverse to the end of all the lines ending in universe?08:34
stephennope08:34
arunstephen: open adept, i'll tell you how to proceed08:34
stephenlol08:34
stephenok08:34
stephenopen08:34
arunalright08:35
arunnow08:35
arungo to Adept > Manage repositories08:35
arunon the top menu08:35
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stephenit dun say manage thing08:35
gnomefreakif feisty didnt have the issue of corrupting the /etc/apt/sources.list.d file i would say use GUI too08:35
arunstephen: there is an option called adept on the top menu08:35
gnomefreakbut that issue was never fixed08:35
arunclick on it08:35
arunand select 'manage repositories'08:36
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stephenok08:36
stephen1 sec08:36
e1merhi08:36
stephenadept manager is not opening08:36
arunstephen: you just said you opened it :)08:37
aruntry opening it again08:37
stepheni opened the add/remove08:37
gnomefreakstephen: did you close kate first?08:37
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arunno, dont open the add remove08:37
arunclose kate if you have it open08:37
arunand then go to kmenu > system > adept08:37
stephenbrb08:37
stepheni gotta restart08:37
stepheneverythings mucking up08:37
gnomefreakwhy you on windows?08:37
stephennope08:37
stephenim on kubuntu08:38
gnomefreakoh ok08:38
arun:\08:38
arunwhy did he restart08:38
stephen_lol08:39
stephen_im on ds08:39
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stephen_aswell08:39
stephen_so i can see what your saying08:40
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stephenright08:40
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stephenback on pc08:40
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BluesKajwhat's ds , stephen ?08:41
dave_nintendo ds =] 08:41
stephenlol08:41
stephenwhy has everyone got errors08:41
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arun???08:42
chaotichey when  installing kubuntu  as dual boot my linux drive is set to mount /media/hda1 do i leave it there or mount to /08:42
BluesKaj<--not a gamer , don't unnerstand them inside jokes :)08:42
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stephenok08:42
stepheni opened adept08:42
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arunok go to adept > manage repositories08:43
stephenok08:43
stephenone08:43
stephendone08:43
chaotichey when  installing kubuntu  as dual boot my linux drive is set to mount /media/hda1 do i leave it there or mount to /08:43
BluesKaj!patience | chaotic08:44
ubotuchaotic: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines08:44
arunok stephen08:44
arundo you see the dialog box?08:44
chaoticheh08:44
stephenyes08:44
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stephenSTFU UBOTO08:44
stephenlol08:44
stephenjk08:44
arunmake sure all the check boxes are selected in the first tab08:44
scotthi08:44
arunin the 'kubuntu software' tab08:44
arunhey scott08:44
chaotici know its a very basic ?08:45
stephenFFS08:45
stephenit crashed again08:45
arunwhat crashed08:45
stephenadept manager08:45
arunwhat exactly happened08:46
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BluesKajchaotic, are you also installing windows ?08:46
stepheni closed it08:46
stephentried to reload it08:46
ninixhi, anyone know the package for allow k3b to burn mp3 audio cd ?08:46
stephenand it didnt08:46
BluesKaj!mp308:46
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:46
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BluesKaj!k3b08:46
ubotuk3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto08:47
stephenwell its installing 6 updates so that might be why lol08:47
BluesKajok stephen yer turn to answer a quaestion.. what's ds ?08:48
stephenok i installed the updates08:48
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stephennintendo ds lite08:48
stephenits a gaming system08:48
BluesKajso he wasn't kidding08:48
stephenits teh coolest handheld ever08:48
BluesKajok :)08:48
chaoticwindows is already installed08:49
stephen_this is me on ds08:49
stephen_lol08:49
stephenme on pc08:49
BluesKaj>--- bah to handhelds08:49
stephen_ds08:49
Impy^:)08:49
chaotici got all the partitions made just trying to figure out the correct mount point08:49
ninixBluesKaj: thx08:49
stephenok so what do i do now that i have enabled multiverse08:49
Impy^i don't suppose anyone know how to install nethack i've tried everything and have had no luck :(08:50
chaoticis mutiverse another repository08:50
WhtWolfTeraDyne!info nethack08:50
chaotic!multiverse08:50
ubotuPackage nethack does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas08:50
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu08:50
BluesKajchaotic, if you are installinqg windows , it should go on the first partition08:50
chaoticits installed already on the 3rd08:51
BluesKajuhoh08:51
chaotic2nd is swap08:51
Impy^does that mean i can't play it? :o08:51
WhtWolfTeraDyneImpy^: It's there, there are several packages.08:51
Impy^yeah when i try and load them08:51
Impy^i get to the character selection thing then it all disapppears08:51
Impy^:(08:51
stephenso now i have enabled multiverse what do i do now please?08:52
stephento get java08:52
WhtWolfTeraDynenethack-console, nethack-gnome. nethack-qt, nethack-x11...08:52
WhtWolfTeraDyneImpy^: Which one are you using08:52
Impy^i tri08:52
milesquestion -- is anyone here using kde4 test build?08:52
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Impy^i tried qt one and gnome one08:53
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mileso rly08:53
WhtWolfTeraDyneImpy^: Let me try installing the QT one.08:53
milesi talked to the people that created qt once08:53
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jesus_is there anyway i can set up ddclient to use my webip instead of my router (internal) ip ?08:54
NickPrestaI used to get an error with Nethack that would cause a segfault when I selected my character08:54
milestrolltech, what a bunch of nice guys08:54
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milesquestion - which is the default kde media player? kaffiene or amarok?08:54
mileswait nevermind08:54
Daisuke-Idodepends on what you're playing...08:54
mileskaffiene = media, amarok = audio08:54
milesright?08:55
Daisuke-Idopretty much, yeah08:55
stephenI HAVE ENABLED MULTIVERSE HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!08:55
Daisuke-Idoturn off the caps08:55
NickPresta!caps | stephen08:55
ubotustephen: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.08:55
stephenshush ubotu08:55
miles!caps | miles08:55
wolferinehow do I pull a movie off a DVD?08:56
stephen:O08:56
Daisuke-Idoif this is not an epic troll, i weep for the people that birthed a human being so willfully ignorant: http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2006/04/20/linux-a-european-threat-to-our-computers-by-tristan.aspx08:56
stephenpirate08:56
miles!rip08:56
WhtWolfTeraDyneImpy^: Well, the QT one worked for me. Unfourtunatly I can't help. Maybe you should file a bug report on Launchpad...08:56
ubotuTo rip an Audio CD in KDE, put it in and then put audiocd:// in the Konqueror URL bar; it's configurable in system settings. Also see http://tinyurl.com/2x7qsh08:56
Daisuke-Idostephen: you want to quit being a little troll and actually ask a question?08:56
Impy^ahh okie dokie cheers for trying whtwolf :D08:56
BluesKajwolferine, k9copy08:56
stephentard i asked a question ages ago08:56
stephenand someone was helping08:56
Impy^brb08:57
wolferineBluesKaj thanks08:57
Daisuke-Idoi just got here08:57
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stepheni enabled multiverse daisuke and now i have to do something to install java?08:57
Daisuke-Idoand what you do after enabling multiverse is the same thing you do after you add any new repository.  you update08:57
Daisuke-Idosudo apt-get update08:57
stepheni did that08:57
Daisuke-Idoapt-cache search java08:58
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Daisuke-Idoyou're looking for one of the JREs08:58
wolferinestephen, consult the 'ubuntu guide' (find it with gogle)08:58
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wolferinegoogle*08:58
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miles!amarok08:58
ubotuAmarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok08:58
WhtWolfTeraDynestephen: "sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre"08:58
wolferinehe probably doesnt want the jre08:59
wolferineor she*08:59
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BluesKajactually the latest amarok is 1.4.608:59
stephenthanks people for helping it dfinally installed lol08:59
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stepheni love you all08:59
stephenxx08:59
wolferinestephen, coder?08:59
seelenpuzzlehow can i install beryl under kubuntu08:59
stephenno wolferine09:00
WhtWolfTeraDyne!beryl | seelenpuzzle09:00
ubotuseelenpuzzle: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects09:00
NickPrestaseelenpuzzle, http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Feisty_with_XGL09:00
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stephencan someone point me to a tutorial on installing apps09:01
WhtWolfTeraDyneSome one should change that to say "You can get help in #ubuntu-effects ". It sounds like it's telling you to go help them, rather than saying you can get help there.09:01
KrAmMeRdoes anyone know how to make or would know where to find out how to make a "asoundconf" script to switch default sound cards?09:01
wolferinestephen, google 'ubuntu guide'09:01
BluesKajWhtWolfTeraDyne, those ppl at 'effects' are rude and unhelpful , make fun of your pc if you don't have the latest graphics stuff09:01
stephenOMG it says configuring sun java and has a ok button09:02
stephenbut i cant press it09:02
Daisuke-Idowolferine: jre = runtime, jdk = development09:02
Daisuke-Idohe wants the jre if he's NOT a coder09:02
wolferineDaisuke-Ido, i know09:02
WhtWolfTeraDyneBluesKaj: Sounds like another channel I know.09:02
BluesKajstephen you have to agree to their licence09:02
Daisuke-Idostephen: hit tab and it should highlight09:02
stephenok09:03
stephendone thx09:03
milesjdk is mad sick crazy09:03
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milesjdk 1.6 ftw09:03
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SchuenemannBluesKaj, hey, NTSC worked with colours09:03
mileshey im just letting yall know, kubuntu is killin windows09:03
Schuenemannthanks09:03
milesi just wish i could get flash cookin on an amd09:04
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milesgnash isnt that good yet09:04
Daisuke-Idomiles: flash-plugin-nonfree?09:04
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stephenthanks09:04
Daisuke-Idoflashplugin-nonfree that is09:04
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milesyou see, i went to the adobe site and dl'd the linux tar09:05
Daisuke-Idothat's a workable solution as well09:05
milesbut you need an x86, im on x86_6409:05
Daisuke-Idoooh09:05
milesyea09:05
Daisuke-Idoyou're using the 64 bit version of ubuntu?09:05
milesi was reading some kind of work around with nsplugin, but i wasnt up for it09:05
milesyea i am09:05
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Schuenemanncan't the 64bit run the 32bit?09:06
Daisuke-Idonot that i'm challenging the wisdom of your choice, but why?09:06
mileswhy i picked x86_64?09:06
Daisuke-IdoSchuenemann: 32 bit what?  flash?  ubuntu?09:06
Daisuke-Idowhy you picked the 64 bit version of ubuntu rather than the 32 bit09:06
SchuenemannDaisuke-Ido, flash, in this case09:06
BluesKajWhtWolfTeraDyne, when I tried suse a couple of yrs ago ppl there were a mixed bag, some were great and really helped , others sneered cuz i was running a really old pc i had built from diff parts ...I managed to make it work ok on suse but the repos system sucks09:06
Daisuke-IdoSchuenemann: nspluginwrapper09:07
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Schuenemannso, why he's having problems with flash?09:07
milesi read an article about the state of 64bit linux, i never tried 64 bit linux, i figured, why not?09:07
Daisuke-Idomiles: that's a good reason09:07
milesnot much of an upgrade imo09:07
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WhtWolfTeraDyneBluesKaj: ?09:07
milesi guess the only real benefit is for large numbers in programming09:07
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SchuenemannI thought 64bits would be a lot faster09:07
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Daisuke-Idoi have to admit i thought i'd get the typical answer to that: "i have a 64 bit processor, i HAVE to use the 64 bit version!11!!!"09:08
Schuenemannwell, of course09:08
Schuenemannwhy would be buy a 64bit processor if he will be running 32 bits programs?09:08
Schuenemannhe buy*09:08
Daisuke-IdoSchuenemann: because all AMD makes is 64 bit processors now?09:08
BluesKajWhtWolfTeraDyne, just remembering how some ppl can be so rude , like in the 'effects' chat09:08
Daisuke-Idoand intel's really close to that?09:09
Schuenemannit's like having a powerful computer to play solitaire on windows =)09:09
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ardchoillelol09:09
Daisuke-IdoSchuenemann: 32 vs 64 isn't really a measure of "power"09:09
milesyea09:09
Schuenemannyeah, it wasn't a very nice example09:09
milesit has more to do with the width of the highway09:09
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Daisuke-Idobut right now, all of the most compatible software is 32 bit09:09
WhtWolfTeraDyneBluesKaj: Ah. I was thinking of the Firefox chatroom, when I had problems with it bringing down a dual-core Pentium D with 1GB of RAM.09:10
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BluesKajheh , wife plays solitaire on her 366mhz HP ...she's quite happy with it ;009:10
milesi wish i had an AMD with dual cores...i like how linux lets you specify how many cores you want to use to compile something09:10
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milesthey have some decent x2 AMDs out now for pretty cheap, i might cop one09:11
zorglu_q. there is a kindof script which is launched each time i run a command, the stuff supposed to detect which package i need to install to launch a given command, that i dont have available, what is the name of this feature/script ?09:11
SchuenemannAlways use the best: Linux for servers, Mac for graphics, Palm for mobility and Windows for solitaire09:11
zorglu_sorry poorly ex[plained09:11
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BluesKajmiles  , I tried the 64bit kubuntu , had hardware driver probs ...switched back to 3209:11
mileslaff @ schuenemann09:11
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milesyea, i couldnt get my wireless nic pci card to work09:11
WhtWolfTeraDyneSchuenemann: I use Linux for desktop, and Windows for storage. >_>;09:11
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Schuenemannstorage?09:12
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milesat work, we always want to do everything on a linux box, but when its crunch time we are always like "fuck it, throw it on windowS"09:12
WhtWolfTeraDyneSchuenemann: My desktop has Windows on it for my grandfather's poker game. I use it to store my files.09:12
WhtWolfTeraDyne!ohmy | miles09:13
ubotumiles: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.09:13
rayluyou should use the linux for storage09:13
milesomg sorry09:13
raylusince windows has drivers to read/write ext09:13
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Schuenemannaren't you afraid of viruses destroying your files, WhtWolfTeraDyne?09:13
milesvirus is a broad term09:13
Daisuke-Idodrivers i've never been able to get working :\09:13
raylueh? i got the ifs stuff going on the first try09:13
BluesKajsolitaire runs nicely on linux too ...why switch ? :)09:13
WhtWolfTeraDyneSchuenemann: Yes, but the only other choice right now is to let him use my laptop for the game...09:13
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raylusell, second, because it didn't quite have a drive letter that i wanted09:13
Daisuke-IdoBluesKaj: patience :D09:13
Jeroenlabasshi all someone uses Rubytk?09:14
WhtWolfTeraDyne!someone09:14
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?09:14
rayluWhtWolfTeraDyne, can your linux write to your windows drive?09:14
Jeroenlabasslol09:14
BluesKajheh' patience'is the name for solitaire in swedish09:14
raylu!rubytk09:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rubytk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:14
SchuenemannBluesKaj, I don't know, maybe there wasn't when they invented that phrase09:14
Schuenemannnot only swedish09:14
raylu!info rubytk09:14
WhtWolfTeraDyneraylu: It's on another machine, so yes, it can via Samba.09:14
ubotuPackage rubytk does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas09:14
BluesKajhehe m Schuenemann09:14
zorglu_q. there is a kindof script which is launched each time i run a command, the stuff supposed to detect which package i need to install to launch a given command, that i dont have available, what is the name of this feature/script ?  like if i type 'vlc' it tells me 'install videolan'09:15
Jeroenlabasswell i get rubytk started but with an syntax error near token "("09:15
SchuenemannI think it's because it requires a lot of patience for shuffling and setting the game up, not really for playing09:15
rayluzorglu_, are you running these commands in a konsole?09:15
zorglu_raylu: yes09:15
SchuenemannWhtWolfTeraDyne, why not a small partition for his patience and the rest for your files (on linux)09:15
rayluand you're on feisty?09:15
zorglu_raylu: ys09:15
zorglu_raylu: yes09:15
Schuenemannhis solitaire*09:15
milesfeisty pwnz teh no0b hax0rz09:15
rayluo.0 =\09:16
zorglu_raylu: i just need the name of the feature. to disable it09:16
rayluteh noob hax0rz get pwned by windows too; nobody cares about them :P09:16
rayluzorglu_, to disable or to enable it?09:16
mileso jeez!09:16
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WhtWolfTeraDyneSchuenemann: On my laptop?09:16
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zorglu_raylu: disable it. this is a python script which is bugged and display bad stuff on terminal when i do 'ctrl-c'09:16
miles09:17
mileswoops09:17
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stephenhmmm09:17
SchuenemannWhtWolfTeraDyne, ahh, the desktop has windows only?09:17
stephenwhats the command line to install rar?09:17
raylusudo aptitude install rar?09:18
Schuenemannsudo apt-get install unrar09:18
rayluwhat are the advantages of apt-get over aptitude? everyone seems to like apt-get better09:18
WhtWolfTeraDyneSchuenemann: Yup. I'd love to give that desktop to him and get me a Dellbuntu. Which is probably what I'll end up doing...09:18
zorglu_it is hard to disable a feature when even the name is unknown :)09:18
novicewhy would you want to use rar?09:18
SchuenemannI think aptitude has advantages09:18
Daisuke-Idoaptitude handles dependencies a little better09:18
stephenwoot09:18
stephenits installed09:18
stephenthx09:18
raylunovice, i think he just has some rar files...09:18
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rayluthat's what i thought; so why do people uses apt-get?09:19
novicepoor him09:19
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stephenive only just installed linux you tard09:19
Daisuke-Idofor instance, if you're installing, say, ubuntu-desktop, use aptitude, because if you choose to remove it, aptitude will remove dependencies that are no longer needed09:19
Schuenemannnovice, what's wrong with rar?09:19
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WhtWolfTeraDyne!ohmy | stephen09:19
ubotustephen: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.09:19
novicewhat are its benefits?09:19
stephenubotu stfu for one09:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about stfu for one - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:19
stephenonce*09:19
ardchoilleraylu: Because apt-get is fast and I don't need a pseudo-gui09:19
Daisuke-Idostephen: it's a bot09:19
zorglu_stephen: stay polite09:19
stepheni know09:19
SchuenemannI don't know... what are the benefits of non-rar?09:20
stephenits an annoying bot09:20
Daisuke-Idoit's a necessary bot09:20
rayluardchoille, apt-get isn't faster than aptitude, as far as i can tell09:20
andreahi, is there anyone can help me with compiz, i installed it with adept, but then?09:20
ardchoilleraylu: Personal preference I suppose09:20
milesthen you launch it09:21
ardchoilleandrea: You might wanna join #ubuntu-effects09:21
raylubut, afaik, aptitude does everything apt-get does...just some things better09:21
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andrealaunch it from where?09:21
novice@ubotu what is your purpose?09:21
milesapt-get is only 7 chars, whereas aptitude is 809:21
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raylulol...09:21
Schuenemannnot really an issue with tab completion09:22
rayluapti -tab is easier to hit than apt- -tab09:22
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BluesKajstephen , a lot of ppl have helped and tried to help you today so pls show a little patience and civilty ...ppl here are volunteers09:22
Schuenemannbrb09:22
milesoic, i didnt know about -tab09:22
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zorglu_stephen: stay polite09:23
milessee, i knew you could do that with files and dirs, i didnt know you could do that for commands...i guess it makes sense as long as they are in your PATH09:23
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novicerar is proprietary - that's what i dislike about it09:23
zorglu_raylu: for info, the feature name was "command-not-found'09:23
ardchoillestephen: It does little good to get mad at the bot, perhaps you should talk to the person(s) using the bot triggers. fwiw, I'd be lost without the bot.09:23
zorglu_sudo apt-get remove command-not-found command-not-found-data <- raylu and this is th ecommand to remove it09:23
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milesQt: 3.3.709:25
milesKDE: 3.5.609:25
mileskde-config: 1.009:25
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milescool09:25
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milesUptime: 1 hours and 5 minutes09:26
GrahamAIt's awesome when everything works... I'm so smug right now House is envious :)09:26
mileshow do you leave a message liek that when you leave?09:27
milesSysinfo for 'nzxt': Linux 2.6.20-15-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: AMDAthlon643800+ at 1000 MHz (2016 bogomips), , RAM: 1202/2012MB, 107 proc's, 1.6h up09:27
Schuenemann /quit message?09:27
GrahamA/quit Message here09:27
milesthat is so sick09:27
zorglu_bogomips is what matter :)09:27
Schuenemannhow do you output that sysinfo?09:27
miles"/exec sysinfo"09:27
milesSysinfo for 'nzxt': Linux 2.6.20-15-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: AMDAthlon643800+ at 1000 MHz (2016 bogomips), , RAM: 1202/2012MB, 106 proc's, 1.6h up09:27
GrahamAmiles: You using Konversation?09:28
milesyea09:28
GrahamAPress F809:28
Schuenemannjust /sysinfo will do09:28
milesi got beryl running, f8 does the expose09:28
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stephenlol09:28
stephenoops09:28
SchuenemannSysinfo for 'otto-desktop': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running KDE 3.5.7, CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1500MHz at 1500 MHz (3004 bogomips), HD: 25/97GB, RAM: 338/376MB, 92 proc's, 1.52h up09:28
stepheni thought it set a message09:28
GrahamASettings > Identities09:28
GrahamABeryl is fun :)09:29
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DarkWizzardtry Compiz-fusion09:29
DarkWizzardeven more fun :D09:29
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DarkWizzardand a lot more stable :D09:29
milesyea...i used to think it just looked cool, but it really does increase productivity like they say09:29
Schuenemann!bogomips09:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bogomips - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:29
meatwad64hi anyone know a good way to troubleshoot why sound is non-existant in kde?09:29
GrahamACompiz-fusion is awesome, I like it more, mostly because beryl didn't work for me :)09:29
Tm_T!sound | meatwad6409:29
ubotumeatwad64: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP309:29
stephenyes i have the same problem mate09:29
milestype /sysinfo09:29
milesSysinfo for 'nzxt': Linux 2.6.20-15-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: AMDAthlon643800+ at 1000 MHz (2016 bogomips), , RAM: 1202/2012MB, 107 proc's, 1.8h up09:29
milesthat is so sweet09:29
milesso new to IRC <----------09:30
DarkWizzardby the chance did anyone here use clamav ?09:30
Schuenemannwhat are bogomips? The 'BOGO' part?09:30
GrahamASysinfo for 'sparta': Linux 2.6.20-16-386 running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: AMDAthlonXP1800+ at 1573 MHz (3149 bogomips), , RAM: 617/757MB, 101 proc's, 47.5min up09:30
zorglu_miles: hehe :) it shows09:30
DarkWizzardfor checking mails09:30
GrahamAHeh, my computer is called sparta09:30
Tm_TSchuenemann: wikipedia helps, it's long story09:30
DarkWizzardSysinfo for 'DarkNet': Linux 2.6.20-15-generic running KDE 3.5.7, CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.66GHz at 2679 MHz (5363 bogomips), HD: 1/1GB, RAM: 490/503MB, 159 proc's, 1.12h up09:30
zorglu_Schuenemann: some invalid way to estimate cpu speed09:30
Tm_Tplease, stop that spamming09:30
zorglu_!offtopic09:30
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!09:30
Schuenemannyeah, I know what are mips09:31
zorglu_the /exec stuff being offtopic :)09:31
GrahamATm_T: DON'T RUN OVER THOSE CHILDREN!09:31
Tm_TGrahamA:09:31
SchuenemannBogoMips (from "bogus" and MIPS)09:31
Schuenemannhehe09:31
stephenwhats the other gui installer apart from adept09:31
stephenand whats the command to install09:31
milessynaptic09:31
milesapt-get install <<package>>09:31
stephenlol09:31
stephenim a dumbass09:31
WhtWolfTeraDyneHow do you change your local domain name? Like "user@domain:~$", the"domain" part.09:31
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zorglu_stephen: stay polite09:32
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milesdomain part is the hostname for your computer09:32
stephensorry09:32
WhtWolfTeraDynemiles: Ok, how do you change the hostname?09:32
Tm_TWhtWolfTeraDyne: /etc/ has files related to it, can't remember which without checking09:32
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milesnot sure, i beleive its in /etc/hostname09:32
Tm_Tthat and some other yes09:32
WhtWolfTeraDyneTm_T: Ok. miles: Ok, thanks.09:32
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GrahamAGo to network settings in control centre, it's in there09:33
DarkWizzardWhtWolfTeraDyne: man hostname09:33
milesyea you could do it that way to09:33
GrahamASystem settings even09:33
max__y des francais?09:33
Tm_T!fr | max__09:33
ubotumax__: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.09:33
WhtWolfTeraDyneGrahamA: Ok, thanks.09:33
Tm_Tmax__: here english only09:33
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milesnon parlez vous l'anglais09:34
novicevraiment?09:34
zorglu_the channel is in a chatting mood :)09:35
WhtWolfTeraDyneFound it! System Setitngs > Network Settings > Network Connections > Domain Name System . Thanks GrahamA.09:35
GrahamAmiles: You do speak enlgish!09:35
GrahamAWhtWolfTeraDyne: Have fun09:35
radioaktivstormhello, so can anyone tell me why kde is completely ignorant of the demensions of my screen? T_T09:35
mileswait09:35
milesyea, i said that worng haha09:35
BluesKajDaisuke-Ido, that blog http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2006/04/20/linux-a-european-threat-to-our-computers-by-tristan.aspx is hilarious ...it actually sounds like something that icebitch Ann Coulter might write in her column :)09:35
milesits not kde, its x1109:35
milesare you using a laptop?09:35
radioaktivstormyes09:35
GrahamARun xrandr09:35
milesis it intel based chipset?09:35
DarkWizzardradioaktivstorm: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:35
noviceest-qu'il y a des francaises ici?09:35
zorglu_!fr | novice09:36
ubotunovice: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.09:36
Tm_T!fr | novice09:36
Tm_Tbah09:36
zorglu_:)09:36
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radioaktivstormDarkWizzard and that wll fix the problem where i open dialogs and they are longer than my screen?09:36
novicepourquoi non?09:36
DarkWizzardhmm09:36
DarkWizzardwhat kde version ?09:36
DarkWizzardno it wont09:37
radioaktivstormoh.09:37
DarkWizzardand what resolution09:37
meatwad64weird that sound works fine in gnome but not in kde09:37
Schuenemann!fr | novice09:37
milestype /exec kdeversion09:37
meatwad64anyone seen that?09:37
ubotunovice: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.09:37
milestype "/exec kdeversion"09:37
Tm_Tnovice: please use english here09:37
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novicemerci beaucoup  les bots09:37
milesQt: 3.3.709:37
novicei'm gonna speak english again09:37
milesKDE: 3.5.609:37
mileskde-config: 1.009:37
zorglu_!resolution | radioaktivstorm09:37
uboturadioaktivstorm: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:37
Tm_Tnovice: you really should09:37
zorglu_radioaktivstorm: you can try this url09:37
stephenbonjour j'emapple stephen ca va?09:37
novicejust checking ;-)09:37
stephenlol09:37
Schuenemannnovice, you asked the bots for mercy09:38
DarkWizzardhmm radioaktivstorm: what resolution ?09:38
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radioaktivstormi was trying out 3.5  on 1280x800 resolution09:38
DarkWizzardah09:38
novicei hope it will be granted09:38
milesradio: i had the same problem09:38
GrahamAradioaktivstorm: Run xrandr09:38
DarkWizzardand the dialogs were longer than the screen ?09:38
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milesthere is something with the intel chipset that doesnt allow it to display natively, it actually has to be hacked09:38
radioaktivstormits not currently installed right now but i am interested in playing with kde some more09:38
milesthere is a bios fix for it radio, i cant think of what its called right now though09:38
stepheni cant change the desktop size09:38
stepheni dunno how09:38
xeroanyone here got experience with agere modems?09:39
radioaktivstormi could just never get things to work out nicely everytime the windows were about a million pixels bigger than the screen09:39
miles915resolution09:39
milesradio - apt-get install 915resolution09:39
ardchoillestephen: Desktop size? Wouldn't that be the screen resolution?09:39
destynovai caint ad nuthin in ad/remove programs09:39
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novicemy desktop is never big enough09:39
radioaktivstormhmmm ok09:39
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stephenyes the resolution :D09:40
Tm_Tjust to remind you fellows09:40
Tm_T!offtopic09:40
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!09:40
destynovaok yay there it goes09:40
destynovawonder why09:40
stephenbecause someone invoked it09:40
Tm_Tdestynova: have you tried apt-get or other commandline tools?09:41
stephen!sound09:42
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP309:42
radioaktivstorm915resolution is nott compatible with my chipset09:42
destynovawhen i went to ad/remove programs for some reason all the apps were greyed out and i couldnt click any to add09:42
xeroanyone here have any experience with agere modems?09:42
destynovabut for some reason on my third try they were availible09:42
meatwad64yeah i looked through that and its enabled and sound works fine in gnome but isn't in kde09:42
Tm_Tdestynova: heh, I'd blame moon or mars09:43
stephendestynova update09:44
destynovai hope that i didnt do anything stupid on accident that's gonna give me problems latter09:44
destynovathis is a 1 day one kubuntu box09:44
destynovaer i mean i'm a 1 day old kubuntu user09:44
stephenwhats that mean?09:44
stephensame09:44
destynovaits been on my box for a day09:44
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stepheni learnt a few things today09:44
rayluand you've been using it for the last 24 hours straight?09:44
Tm_Tstephen: I recommend you to join #kubuntu-offtopic ;)09:44
stepheni dint09:45
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stephendont*09:45
st1ckly78i need some help09:45
novicekubuntu-offtopic is boring09:45
mileshello09:45
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milesim about to spark a black n mild09:45
Tm_Tnovice: but might save from kick or ban ;)09:45
destynovawhat are some kewl programs i can get for kde09:45
Schuenemann!threats | Tm_T09:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about threats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:46
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Schuenemanndestynova, what for?09:46
Tm_TSchuenemann: ?09:46
raylulol09:46
Schuenemannnvm09:46
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stephenhow long is a ban?09:46
rayludestynova, apache, mysql, php, phpmyadmin09:46
novice:|09:46
Tm_Tstephen: it depends, from hours to years09:46
Schuenemannforever09:46
stephen:P09:46
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st1ckly78how do i set up broadband with kubuntu 6.1009:47
raylu...that question made no sense09:47
stephenwtf it should be automatic09:47
st1ckly78thats what i thought but nothing09:47
GrahamAIs it a wireless connection09:47
st1ckly78no its09:47
st1ckly78wired09:47
stepheni couldnt use my wifi but ethernet worked straight away09:48
stephenjust plug it in and restart09:48
raylust1ckly78, ifconfig09:48
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st1ckly78it shows i am good but when i open up say google in konqueror nothing but an error occured09:49
raylust1ckly78, could you pastebin the output?09:50
st1ckly78give me a sec09:50
rayluaw :( there's no kubuntu server edition XD09:50
rayluwhat's LTS?09:51
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Tm_Traylu: Long Time Support09:51
GrahamATerm09:51
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rayluoh =\09:52
rayluok, 7.04 it is09:52
stepheni have 7.0409:52
stephenmuch better09:52
stephenallt he apps i want install09:52
GrahamAraylu: First of all, there is a kubuntu server edition, but why do you want it?09:52
raylueh??09:52
rayluhow can there be? why would you have a kubuntu server when the server is text-only?09:52
milesyou could technically still install kde on it though..09:53
mileswouldnt do much good...09:53
Tm_T?09:53
GrahamAOk, there USED to be one.09:53
rayluhttp://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/feisty/09:53
raylui see no server09:53
stephenhow do i change the resolution of linux?09:53
raylu!modeline | stephen09:53
milesxorg.conf09:53
ubotustephen: A Modeline is a config line in the X server configuration file that gives info about a connected display and how to drive it at a specified display resolution. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFree86_Modeline for more details. Here are 2 links to generate modelines which fit your monitor: http://bohne-lang.de/spec/linux/modeline/ and http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl09:53
rayluholy poop that's a lot of text =\09:53
GrahamAstephen: xrandr09:53
destynovacan i update my kubuntu withoug having to nuke the   whole drive, aka windows style?09:54
Tm_Traylu: you called me?09:54
mileseth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:17:31:17:DA:3C09:54
miles          inet addr:192.168.1.2  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.009:54
miles          inet6 addr: fe80::217:31ff:fe17:da3c/64 Scope:Link09:54
miles          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:109:54
miles          RX packets:96665 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:009:54
miles          TX packets:55737 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:009:54
stephenyes09:54
miles          collisions:0 txqueuelen:100009:54
rayludestynova, update the whole drive? huh?09:54
stephenyou run update09:54
miles          RX bytes:142945411 (136.3 MiB)  TX bytes:3998496 (3.8 MiB)09:54
GrahamAHow do ou mean update?09:54
miles          Interrupt:2309:54
raylu!pastebin  | miles09:54
ubotumiles: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)09:54
mileslo        Link encap:Local Loopback09:54
miles          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.009:54
destynovathe os09:54
miles          inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host09:54
ardchoille!paste09:54
miles          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:109:54
miles          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:009:54
miles          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:009:54
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stephenit updated mine to 7.0409:54
ardchoilleTm_T: thank you09:54
destynovacan i update the os without having to format09:54
stephenyes09:54
stepheni said yes lol09:54
destynovaie, lose all my data09:54
rayludestynova, yes, from edgy to feisty is safe09:54
Tm_Tardchoille: sorry for my slowness09:54
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milesi said sorry09:55
milesjeez09:55
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ardchoilleTm_T: np :)09:55
rayludestynova, and very safe if your /home is mounted on its own partition09:55
st1ckly78!pastebin09:55
Tm_Tmiles: pastebin is your friend (:09:55
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)09:55
raylumiles, your thing queued your "sorry" and you were still on the lo device when he kicked you09:55
Tm_Tmiles: and yes, I stopped the flood, nothing against you personally09:55
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mileso, i was just figuring out how /exec cmd <<cmd>> works09:56
milesnow i know09:56
rayluso, after i install ubuntu server, can i get kde/gnome on it by just installing the respective desktop package?09:56
Tm_Tmiles: you should try that stuff in some private channel09:56
milesi dont know about private channels09:56
milesirc is all new to me09:56
st1ckly78raylu, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30033/09:56
raylujust /join any channel09:56
Tm_Tmiles: /join #miles-is-king09:56
Tm_T;-P09:56
milesno kidding....hold on09:56
raylust1ckly78, what error do you get when trying to open a webpage?09:57
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milescan you guys join #miles-is-king?09:57
st1ckly78an error occured while loading http://www.google.com09:57
st1ckly78unknown host www.google.com09:57
Tm_Tmiles: for what?09:57
stephenlol09:57
raylust1ckly78, http://64.233.187.99/09:57
milesi mean..could you actually join it?09:57
raylutry that09:57
milesif you wanted it09:57
Tm_Tmiles: sure09:58
mileso09:58
raylumiles, yes09:58
milesok, just wondering09:58
Tm_Tmiles: unless someone stop with some rule09:58
novicei thought servers should be installed in text mode only09:58
raylunovice, they should... they never need a gui09:58
st1ckly78what the hell09:58
miles!prof09:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about prof - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:59
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raylust1ckly78, ?09:59
xianten@#$% this im goin to play oblivion.09:59
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miles!stallman09:59
uboturms is Richard Matthew Stallman, founder of the GNU project. See !gnu and also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman09:59
st1ckly78i am good09:59
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raylu?09:59
hero!linus09:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about linus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:59
chaoticyeah whats the command  to reconfigure xorg09:59
raylu!trovalds09:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about trovalds - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:59
Tm_T!botabuse09:59
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...09:59
miles!torvalds09:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about torvalds - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:59
miles!linus torvalds10:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about linus torvalds - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:00
Tm_Tstop fishing10:00
rayludpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver, i think10:00
stephenOMG10:00
noviceso why does raylu want to install kde or gnome on his server?10:00
rayluchaotic, but i wouldn't trust a script to configure my xorg10:00
raylunovice, because my server is going to be a worthless server anyway :P10:00
heroperhaps they should consider disabling ubotu pasting to pub10:00
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Tm_Tnovice: I do have X and all in my server, so not?10:01
rayluis there a text-based music player?10:01
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heroraylu: mpg12310:01
Tm_Traylu: many, like mp3blaster banshee mpg123 etc etc10:01
rayluo.0, sweet10:02
noviceTm_T: i was only wondering, because everybody tells you *never* to install a desktop environment on a server - but apparently it isn't that dangerous10:02
rayluLOL10:02
Tm_Tnovice: well it depends what kind of server it is10:02
raylu[4K^Javax] ,http://mp3blaster.sourceforge.net/#screenshots10:02
rayluoops =\10:02
raylunovice, it's stupid, but my server is stupid, so =\10:02
noviceyeah, sorry for asking...10:03
rayluput it another way, i'm sticking it on a 20gb hd and it's running on a dlink wireless card10:03
Daisuke-IdoBluesKaj: i'm still trying to figure out if that's even real.10:03
stepheni cant get sound to work :S10:04
stephen!sound10:04
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP310:04
novice!snd-sb1610:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about snd-sb16 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:04
novice!soundblaster10:04
ubotusoundblaster is If you need help with setting up your soundblaster card, then visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundcardsWithHardwareSynth10:04
rayluThere was a (at the time) very popular command-line based mp3 player though, called 'splay'.10:04
rayludoes that still exist?10:04
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stephenOMG10:05
stephenno soundcards found10:05
xerodoes anyone know how to hide a shell window?10:05
Tm_Txero: what you mean?10:05
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chaotichey is fiesty the latest kubuntu10:05
stepheni think so10:05
stephenits the version that my system got updated to10:06
rayluchaotic, yes10:06
Daisuke-Idothe latest released version10:06
rayluxero, where is htis window?10:06
xerolike i run a command to use my modem... but need to hide the window after i execute10:06
chaoticwhen a new comes out can i just update or do i have to reinstall10:06
Daisuke-Idoin six years we'll have Ubuntu Vista!10:06
Daisuke-Ido...10:06
stephennoooooooooo10:06
stephenvista = nazis10:06
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chaoticwe already do its called beryl lol10:06
Daisuke-Idochaotic: when gutsy coems out in october, they should have really refined the upgrade process10:06
Daisuke-Idoso upgrading should be relatively painless10:07
Tm_Txero: how about running that command from krundialog, hit alt-f210:07
Daisuke-Idoit's gotten better every release so far :D10:07
stephenmine failed in deleteing obsolete programs10:07
stephen:(10:07
heroany other major improvements in gutsy?10:08
xerowhat i have now is a shortcut to run the command. is it possible to do thatwith krundialog?10:08
Daisuke-Idocompiz-fusion10:08
herocool10:08
BluesKajDaisuke-Ido, luuv that troll site you posted earlier ...thought it was real for a minute ,the rhetoric was so convincing ...right off Fox news :)10:08
herowhat are they calling it now?10:08
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Tm_Txero: it's just like shell, just enter command and done10:09
Daisuke-Idothat's what they're calling it now :)10:09
Daisuke-Idofor now at least10:09
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herooh, i thought there was a different name to beryl-compiz fusion10:09
xerobut can i run it from the desktop? its for my parents...10:09
Daisuke-Idoi hope they adopt beryl's control panel though10:09
Daisuke-Idocompiz's, well...  sucks10:09
Daisuke-Idohard10:09
stephenwhats the most common soundcard?10:10
BluesKajusually soundblaster10:10
Daisuke-Idonot really10:10
Daisuke-Idorealtek10:10
stephenthats the one10:10
stephenthanks10:10
Daisuke-Idoac'97 chipsets10:10
chaoticrealtek comes built in soundblaster is usually an upgrade10:11
Impy^how can i solve this when i try open add/remove adept installer i get a message saying another process is using the packaging system database please close the other application before using this one10:11
stephenso is realteck compatible with kubuntu?10:11
heroif i can't get the menu for konsole to come up, is there another way to disable the audible bell?10:11
rayluyes10:11
chaoticnot too many people care much about their  audio10:11
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stepheni need audio for naruto10:11
skollieImpy^: its telling you to close any other package manager you have open...10:11
rayluImpy^, are any other adepts running?10:11
stephenhow do i enable the sound for my soundcard?10:11
Impy^i don't think :o10:12
skollieImpy^: or synaptic?10:12
rayluImpy^, open a konsole and use "ps -a"10:12
rayluor Ctrl+Esc10:12
BluesKajchaotic, there are alot of audio questions in here , most ppl care aboput their audio setup10:12
LopinDoes anyone know how to boot off of something other than a CD...10:12
rayluLopin, like a hard drive? :P10:12
LopinThat'll work!10:12
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raylu^^10:12
rayluit's possible on a usb disk10:13
LopinV.V10:13
rayluand some recovery methods use a floppy to boot a cd10:13
Impy^k will try that now raylu cheers =] 10:13
heroyeah, like disabling the bell10:13
LopinI can do floppy, but my computer won't boot off of a usb device...10:13
PhinnFortAHAHAHA! Suck on this, bash killers and Dash promoters: "It has a real bash shell, because bash's built-ins reduce process loading (forking) at boot time, for faster start-up."10:13
PhinnForthttp://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS5060055175.html10:13
Impy^5808 pts/1  00.00.00ps10:13
rayluLopin, why can't you boot off of a cd? doesn't your bios let you hit keys to do various things?10:13
LopinIf that was the case, I could use my external cd drive...10:13
LopinI have a laptop, and my internal drive is all busted...10:14
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LopinJust hardware failure...10:14
rayluLopin, so...look around your bios screen10:14
LopinIt tries to boot...  But can't read the disk...10:14
Impy^raylu when i type ps -a i get 5808 pts/1  00.00.00ps10:14
Impy^:o10:14
stephenhttp://www.realtek.com.tw/downloadAs/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=23&PFid=23&Level=4&Conn=3&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false#AC can someone look at that page and tell me what driver i would need for kubuntu10:14
stephenthere are multiple linux drivers :S10:15
rayluImpy^, ctrl+esc?10:15
rayluLopin, maybe you didn't burn it as bootable?10:15
LopinI know that Kubunu is a debian derivative, and that page don't exist!  ^.^!10:15
dopezanyone ever heard of this problem? when i suspend my laptop (sleep mode) it usually goes okay, but sometimes when i open the lid and it resumes it directly goes back to sleep again, once in a while it even doesnt come up again10:16
LopinI know it's not the disk, becuase of two reasons...  1) the computer won't read ANY disks, even when in windows, and 2) I've had all four of my linux disks running on other computers...10:16
raylui've heard of lots of suspend problems10:16
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rayluLopin, I meant in the external10:16
LopinWait, what?10:17
rayluwhy can't you boot off the external cd drive?10:17
LopinBIOS doesn't support USB devices...10:17
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raylumine does10:18
LopinFour year old Medion Laptop...10:18
raylu:(10:18
LopinI know...10:18
raylumy computer is at least that old and it found my usb drive :P10:18
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LopinWell, where would it be in the bios, cause when I have the boot list it only has, Floppy CD and Hard Disk...  Even when there are usb devices plugged in...10:19
rayluis there a boot menu?10:19
LopinI've tried to use a Knoppix Floppy set, but they seem to be a bit volatile...10:19
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rayluas in not a configuration one; just a one-time thing10:19
chaotichey python all pkg includes python glk210:19
LopinYeah...  F12 as I boot...  Only pulls up those devices though, but I've not tried it with my external attached...10:20
raylui think it's worth a shot10:20
LopinEver heard of Wubi?10:21
rayluno10:21
LopinIt's supposed to install (k)ubuntu from inside windows, and I've heard lots of praise for it...10:21
chaoticu said  no to my ?10:21
rayluno @ lopin10:21
rayluchaotic, your question makes no sense10:21
LopinBut, when I go to boot, I get an error about RAID...10:22
LopinI don't even HAVE raid!10:22
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rayluLopin, does wubi install ubuntu in its own partition?10:23
Impy^hmm raylu what should i be looking for when i press ctrl+esc? :o10:23
LopinNo, you have to do that after you install it...  I'm pretty sure it uses a disk image, that you convert to the partition later...10:23
chaoticits telling me xorg xserver  is not installed10:23
chaoticthat cant be10:23
LopinI already have a partition...10:24
rayluImpy^, adept, aptitude, apt-get10:24
rayluImpy^, and dpkg10:24
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kuukkelihow to change sensitivity10:24
Impy^should i close adept_notifier?10:24
kuukkelion kubuntu :P10:24
chaotichow i  reconfigure xorg10:24
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raylukuukkeli, kmenu>system settings>mouse10:25
rayluchaotic, why?10:25
kuukkelisudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:25
rayluImpy^, probably won't make a difference, go ahead10:25
level1what is it in kubuntu that configures multimedia keys automatically?10:25
kuukkelichaotic10:25
kuukkelisudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:25
level1like play and pause10:25
raylulevel1, i think that's an installer sdript10:25
raylu*script10:25
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level1raylu: what does it actually do?10:25
LopinI'm going to try the one time, and then I'm going to try to use wubi again, and if it doesn't work, I'll be back...10:26
Impy^nothing there :o10:26
Impy^what's getty?10:26
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faireserov BluesKaj: FYI: I did the erov suggestion, but with aptitude instead of apt-get10:26
fairesIt worked flawlessly...10:27
fairesThanks a lot...10:27
kuukkeliraylu, system settings?10:27
kuukkelitheres settings and system10:27
Novellweird.. konqueror is refusing to work as browser.. not resolving hosts10:27
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faires(I'm the guy who was trying to update from dapper to edgy)10:27
KrAmMeRhow would i make a shell script executable? so i would just have to double click it...10:27
KrAmMeRi cant seem to get it to run10:27
Novellor something like that.. Firefox works fine and host, ping, ssh, etc10:27
KrAmMeRi can run it from the terminal10:27
KrAmMeRsh filename10:27
KrAmMeRbut i just want to double click it10:28
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kuukkeliraylu, nothing, found it10:28
skollieKrAmMeR: : it is called shell script for a reason10:29
kuukkelihow to change mouse sensitivity10:30
raylukuukkeli...i thought you found it?10:30
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dodiad yg pk bhsa jawa/yg lain.10:31
raylu...it takes 60 minutes to burn a ubuntu server iso???10:31
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jesus005fd10:32
kuukkeliraylu, no it was the same as kcontrol but theres no sensitivity10:32
KrAmMeRskollie:  ok, can you help me with this?10:32
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jesus005any one can help me10:32
jesus005with10:32
jesus005a10:32
jesus005problem10:32
kuukkeliraylu, found ;D10:32
skollieKrAmMeR: shell scripts are intended to run in a shell or terminal. You can create a desltop shortcut to double-click, but you still have to have it open in a terminal10:33
WhtWolfTeraDyne!ask | jesus00510:33
ubotujesus005: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)10:33
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raylu!id10:34
ubotujoin ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia10:34
jesus005can anyone help me i install ubuntu 7.04 on my dell latitude c840but the laptops monitor anit working with it i have to use and external monitor10:34
KrAmMeRskollie: i've read about people being able to do it...10:34
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jesus005no but mine is10:34
skollieKrAmMeR: yes, it can be done, but you usually have to set it up to run in a terminal.10:34
jesus005c84010:34
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jesus005but how can i make it work again10:35
jesus005it does boot10:35
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jesus005any one have a solution to my poblem the screen works at boot but when it boots ubuntu it anit work10:36
jesus005what10:36
jesus005?10:37
jesus005im a bigginer in ubunu10:37
jesus005ubuntu10:37
stephenyou have noobuntu yet?10:37
jesus005what10:38
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Impy^how do i get superuser privilege?10:41
ardchoille!sudo | Impy^10:41
ubotuImpy^: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.10:41
Impy^ahh k cheers ardchoille :)10:42
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miles hey10:42
milesubuntu mobile embedded isnt going to be on smartphones10:43
milesthat makes me cry10:43
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ardchoille:)10:43
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Impy^ace that sorted my problem out cheers for the help everyone :)10:44
KrAmMeRskollie: figured it out, I had to make an application link, and tell it to run in terminal10:44
skollieKrAmMeR: That's what I said...10:46
KrAmMeRyeah but i didn't know how...10:46
skollieKrAmMeR: you should have asked. I could have told you ;)10:47
stephenhmmm10:47
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stepheni have downloaded realtek drivers for linux10:47
stephenbut now i need to install them...10:48
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Biovorestephen: what realtek card..  most of there stuff is alread in the linux kernel..10:49
rayluo.010:49
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KrAmMeRstollie: its all good, I learn better by figuring it out10:57
KrAmMeR: p10:57
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fredrik_Hi all. I have destoyed my partition table. But not rebooted yet. Some distributions (eg. suse) record partition information in a file. Does anyone know if there is such file in Kubuntu?11:01
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skollieKrAmMeR: that's why I did not say anything. I was waiting to see if you would ask...11:03
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chaotici thgink i finally got ubuntu running just how i like it11:12
chaoticshowuld i say just like i want it11:12
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chaoticthat reinstall was my best friend11:12
chaoticbtw i meant kubuntu11:12
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chaoticwow its  quiet now11:13
chaoticusually theres 4 or 5 questions running thru11:14
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chaoticwhats the best mp3 player that has a library like amarok11:17
chaoticshould i say    other than amarok11:18
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najibhey guys how do install new themes?11:19
t_mausnajib: what for themes kdm / kde / firefox ?!11:20
Biovorenajib: www.kde-look.org11:20
najibyes i already found a theme but how do i install it?11:20
skolliechaotic: apparently rhythmbox does, but since I've never used it, I cannot confirm11:20
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t_mausthere is a package kdmthememanger oder something11:21
chaoticim just trying to find something like windows media player11:21
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t_mausmplayer ?!11:22
najibdoes anybody know how to install themes?11:22
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Biovorenajib: you installing a new color scheme or a widget scheme?11:23
najibBiovore: an icon theme11:23
Biovoremost icon themes are tarballs..11:23
najibBiovore: meaning?11:23
Biovoreyou have to expand them to ~/.icons11:23
Biovoreussualy..11:23
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martijnhello11:24
najibBiovore: ok how do i do that11:24
Biovorehttp://www.kde-look.org/help/index.php?type=2711:25
Biovore^ instructions :-)11:25
t_mausn8 guys11:25
martijni was wondering, i'd like to have a tool in konqueror that shows me translates a word for me in the context menu, so; i select a word, and translations in a predefined language should appear when i right click it. Does anyone knows whether something alike exists?11:25
Biovoreif the icons you downloaded are just images.. you have to manual install them your self.. no automation..11:25
chaoticdownloading mplayer  im checking it out11:25
najibBiovore: where is the control center?11:26
Biovorerun kcontrol11:26
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BiovoreI think on ubuntu they hide it from you in favor of the mac looking thing..11:26
najibBiovore: i am new to this kubntu but exactly where do i type that in?11:27
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najibBiovore: can i access the control center from the KDE menu?11:30
LattyHey all, trying to upgrade to gutsy and getting an error on trying to install a few packages11:30
Biovorenajib: No.. it not on there..  type kcontrol in a bash shell11:31
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najibBiovore: lol what is a bashshell11:31
pedro_hello11:31
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Biovorenajib: konsole..  the command line interface11:32
Lattydpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libkdepim1a_4%3a3.5.7-1ubuntu5_i386.deb (--unpack):11:32
Latty trying to overwrite `/usr/share/apps/kdepim/icons/crystalsvg/22x22/actions/checkedbox.png', which is also in package korganizer11:32
LattyBeing the error11:32
chaotichey where can i get more themes for theme manager11:32
stephencan someone help me install the realtek drivers please?11:32
Biovorechaotic: www.kde-look.org11:32
stephenfor audio :D11:32
Biovorestephen: what realtek device is it?11:33
chaoticthats def getting bookmarked11:33
Biovoreit should work..11:33
najibBiovore: where is it?11:33
martijnnajib: Konsole11:33
martijnis a bashshell normally11:33
vecinaGreat. I ran an upgrade and now all my graphics are slow11:33
Biovoreor you can do the run command option and type kcontrol in it..11:33
najibmartijn: i know but where is it?11:34
Biovorevecina: using a ATI/NVidia card and upgraded your kernel I guess..11:34
stephenits a audio one biovore11:34
stepheni think ac 9711:34
Biovorestephen: type lspci into a console..11:34
vecinaBiovore: Huh?11:34
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Biovorevecina: you using a ATI or nvidia card?11:35
najibBiovore: where is konsole?11:35
vecinaBiovore: ATI11:35
stephenrealtek semiconductor11:35
BiovoreI can't really tell you.. I have my menus all different here..11:35
Biovorestephen: Need a chip number..11:35
chaoticwhich kde  does kubuntu have11:35
Biovorechaotic: 3.5 I think11:35
Biovore(feisty)11:36
chaoticanyhow to verify that11:36
stephenRTL-8139/8139C/8139 i think thats it11:36
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marco__can anyone help me to install the ubuntu 7.04 ?11:36
Biovorestephen: those should work out of the box..11:36
chaoticyeah i got fiesty11:36
stephenjust run the update marcus11:36
stephenthey dont biovore :(11:36
stephenit says no sound cards installed11:36
stephenand there is an X over the sound icon11:37
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Biovorehmm RTL-8139 is a network card..11:37
WhtWolfTeraDynechaotic: 3.5.6 is the latest version of KDE in Kubuntu. You can add repos for 3.5.7, though.11:37
stepheni tohught so11:37
vecinableeh11:37
stephenlol11:37
Biovorestephen: And those do work.. I have one..11:37
najibok now the question is what version of KDE do i have?11:37
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stephenMultimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 AC'97 Audio   Controller (rev 80)11:38
WhtWolfTeraDynenajib: Alt+F2 and use "kcontrol" as the command. It should say on the first screen.11:38
Biovorenajib: go up to "run command" and type kcontrol11:38
Biovoreis all in there..11:38
nagyvhello I would like to help my brother to switch from XP to Ubuntu, I use Kubuntu. Could someone give me step-by-step instructions (or a link), how to set-up remote access to his desktop? (remote desktop, not just ssh, to show him what I do)11:38
LattyI have this bug, can anyone tell me how to work around it? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/119664/11:39
Biovorestephen: hmm ATI audio might be a pain.. all propritary.. I am not sure if they do work in linux..11:39
stephen:(11:39
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najibWhtWolfTeraDyne: can i get an update to 4.011:39
WhtWolfTeraDynenajib: I'm sure there are repos for that somewhere.11:39
WhtWolfTeraDyne!kde411:39
ubotuFor information on KDE 4 (not to be released for quite some time yet), see: http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html. Also worth checking are: appeal/phonon/plasma/solid.kde.org11:39
nagyvvpn11:39
nagyv!vpn11:39
ubotuFrom more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD11:39
nagyv!factoids11:40
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots11:40
BiovoreLatty: gutsy is beta ware and no one supports it..  Its a dependency problem they will probably fix as it gets closer to release..11:40
stephenso biovore is there anyway to get sound?11:40
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LattyBiovore: Yeah, but is there any way I can get this to go through?11:40
Biovorestephen: no clue..  I have never messed with that card.11:40
stephen!sound11:40
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP311:40
BiovoreLatty: try a apt-get install -f11:41
LattyBiovore: Done, that's what gives me the output11:41
Biovoreyou try unstalling the conflicting package using dpkg?11:41
WhtWolfTeraDyneLatty: If you're having problems with Gutsy, you could ask in #ubuntu+1. They might have more info about it.11:42
LattyWhtWolfTeraDyne: Thanks, I'll try that11:43
BiovoreLatty: The other option is to download the .deb package and force install using dpkg and tell it ignore all deps.11:43
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LattyBiovore: I'll look into that11:44
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assaurioshi men11:45
assauriosthere are any channel of spanish support?11:45
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Biovore!es11:45
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.11:45
assauriosBiovore: gracias :)11:45
Biovoreno problemo11:46
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chaotichow do i get the mp3 plugin for amarok11:49
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WhtWolfTeraDynechaotic: "sudo aptitude install libxine1-ffmpg"11:50
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chaoticCouldn't find any package whose name or description matched "libxine1-ffmpg"11:51
WhtWolfTeraDynesorry. It's "sudo aptitude install libxine1-ffmpeg"11:52
WhtWolfTeraDyneI don't know why I always forget the "e"11:52
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chaoticthankyou so much11:54
WhtWolfTeraDynechaotic: No problem.11:54
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chaoticthats the reason i went to xmms last time11:54
nagyvcould someone help me with a vnc connection? I would like to administer a machine in Hungary from Ireland, my brother will set up the server, but we need some help.11:55
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skollienagyv: what help do you need?12:00
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nagyvI don't know what client program to use, is vncviewver the preferred option under KDE?12:01
Darkrifti used to use putty to do that, but it was command line only12:01
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waylandbillnagyv: krdc12:02
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waylandbillnagyv: works with not only vnc but windows terminal services if you have a need to connect to one of those.12:02
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Darkriftnice12:02
skollienagyv: which is under Menu-->Internet12:02
nagyvI have found it, but no idea what to write in it :\12:03
livejackcan someone help me out with a problem for ubuntu on PPC?12:03
waylandbillthe terminal services requires rdesktop to be installed too.12:03
skollienagyv: the address of the server you want to connect to, to begin with12:04
waylandbillnagyv: you need to use the ip address for the LAN unless you are going over the internet in which case you need the WAN address of your router.12:04
waylandbillnagyv: additionally you need an open port.12:05
skolliewaylandbill: in nagyv's case remote is really remote - Hungary and Ireland12:05
skollienagyv: is it correct that you will be the client and not the server?12:06
nagyvskollie: yes12:06
skollienagyv: do you know the address of the server that you want to connect to?12:07
nagyvI am just trying vncviewer -via ser.ver.ips.dress server-name:012:07
nagyvyes, but I think my brother is just setting up port forwarding12:08
nagyvis it port 22?12:08
SlimeyPeteport 22 is ssh12:08
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skollienagyv: What is your brother running, a VNC server?12:08
nagyvvino12:08
Alethescan somebody give me an idea of what module needs to be loaded to suport an NEC usb controller pci card?12:08
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nagyvjust the basic ubuntu thingy12:09
chaotichey guys i forgot how to install deb packages is  it sudo dpg1 -i name.deb12:09
SlimeyPetesudo dpkg -i name.deb12:09
chaotici think im missing something12:09
skollienagyv: it will definetelly not be 22 - for VNC server it 5 something, but cannot remember12:09
nagyvactually vncviewer talks about port 2212:09
nagyv!paste12:10
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:10
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skollienagyv: if you tunnel through ssh, yes12:10
vzduchskollie, nagyv: http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers12:10
felipe_algum br ai pode me dar umas dicas por favor?12:10
felipe_:)12:10
vzduchVNC server is 590012:11
vzduch!br | felipe_12:11
ubotufelipe_: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.12:11
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nagyvvzduch: thx12:11
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