[12:16] <maverick> guys, i was so happy feisty did easily support NTFS....wohooo
[12:17] <maverick> without the previous bugs that used to occure in edgy
[12:18] <Daisuke_Ido> maverick: using feisty, you know universe is enabled from the start, the end user doesn't have to enable it, therefore not having the repo added/enabled is not the issue with Jemidon's codec installation problem
[12:18] <BluesKaj> yes vzduch , it's going to be more difficult here in Canada as well. The US movie industry is threatening to delay distribution of some movie releases here... as if most ppl care , some of the crap Hollywood is putting out isn't worth copying
[12:18] <Daisuke_Ido> BluesKaj: one word: transformers :D
[12:18] <BluesKaj> yeah, i heard
[12:19] <maverick> Daisuke_Ido: What do you think it could be then?!
[12:19] <Daisuke_Ido> maverick: i have no clue.  but i do know what it's not.
[12:19] <Daisuke_Ido> perhaps using another mirror?
[12:20] <maverick> well, i dunno if he's even using feisty
[12:20] <maverick> jemidon: are you using feisty?
[12:21] <Daisuke_Ido> from helping him last night, i know that whether or not he's using feisty, he does have universe enabled.
[12:21] <chaotic> do any of u use firefox
[12:21] <Jemidon> shoot, transformers was awesome
[12:21] <Daisuke_Ido> chaotic: no, just Internet Explorer
[12:21] <chaotic> rofl
[12:21] <Daisuke_Ido> Jemidon: of course, heading out to see it again shortly :P
[12:22] <chaotic> um  its just thathow do i associate .torrents with ktorrent on firefox
[12:22] <vzduch> Daisuke_Ido: yes, universe is enabled by default, but multiverse is not
[12:23] <Daisuke_Ido> good point
[12:24] <chaotic> does anyone kno
[12:24] <wepiha> I am having a problem getting 'Shared Rear/Line-In' working
[12:24] <Daisuke_Ido> !info libmad0
[12:24] <ubotu> libmad0: MPEG audio decoder library. In component main, is optional. Version 0.15.1b-2.1 (feisty), package size 75 kB, installed size 160 kB
[12:25] <maverick> jemidon: try downloading it manually from ubuntu packages website...
[12:25] <ardchoille> !news
[12:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about news - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:25] <phoenixz> k3b under kubuntu does not detect my DVD writer which k3b under Fedora did detect.. Anything to solve this one?
[12:25] <Daisuke_Ido> Jemidon: sudo apt-get install libmad0
[12:25] <ardchoille> I need an rss feed for Ubuntu. Any ideas?
[12:25] <Daisuke_Ido> libxine-extracodecs depends on libmad0
[12:25] <boudewijn> chaotic: i was having that same problem with firefox. i could not get it to open torrents in ktorrent. now i simply use konqueror to open torrent sites.
[12:25] <wepiha> ardchoille: since this is the kubuntu channel. could I recommend akgregator!
[12:26] <ardchoille> Jemidon: Still having probs with libxine-extracodecs?
[12:26] <ardchoille> wepiha: I need an rss feed, not a reader.. I already use akregator
[12:26] <chaotic> theres no executable  file for ktorrent
[12:26] <wepiha> ardchoille: ok. I missunderstood ;)
[12:26] <ardchoille> wepiha: np :)
[12:27] <chaotic> ?
[12:27] <boudewijn> ?
[12:27] <boudewijn> ..   /usr/bin/ktorrent
[12:28] <ardchoille> chaotic: In a term, type: which ktorrent
[12:28] <Jemidon> Ardchoille: yep lol Dai: just running the command now
[12:28] <Jemidon> it is finished setting it up
[12:28] <ardchoille> Jemidon: Can you pastebin your sources.list? I'd be interested in seeing it.
[12:29] <Daisuke_Ido> Jemidon: now try playing an mp3.  can't promise anything, but hey :P
[12:29] <ardchoille> Jemidon: Also, xmms plays mp3's out of the box.
[12:29] <Jemidon> Daisuke: still says no mp3 support
[12:30] <chaotic> what about the ubuntu equipped firefox
[12:30] <Jemidon> Ardchoille: let me try to install xmms and see if that works, if all else fails, i could do itunes under wine? would that be a solution?
[12:30] <intelikey> i want a good shell,   not this modern bash.   something like dash with $RANDOM and command line editing.   is there any such thing ?
[12:31] <ardchoille> Jemidon: No idea, I haven't touched a Windows app in 7 years, lol
[12:31] <ardchoille> !info xmms
[12:31] <wepiha> !xmms | ardchoille
[12:31] <ubotu> xmms: Versatile X audio player. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.2.10+20061201-1ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 794 kB, installed size 6304 kB
[12:31] <ubotu> ardchoille: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[12:31] <ardchoille> ubotu: Glad you could join us
[12:32] <maverick> jemidon..if amarok doesn't play mp3 none will
[12:32] <maverick> it's not in amarok it's in the codecs itself
[12:32] <boudewijn> just install xmms or audacious
[12:32] <Jemidon> actually, xmms is playing perfectly
[12:33] <ardchoille> :)
[12:33] <Jemidon> now the next question lol
[12:33] <maverick> 0.o
[12:33] <benh> grrr
[12:33] <ardchoille> Jemidon: http://xmms.org/skins.php
[12:33] <benh> so kubuntu.org doesn't have kde 3.5.7 ppc packages
[12:33] <ardchoille> xmms doesn't seem to need the mp3 codecs
[12:33] <maverick> hmm...why would amarok not play then!!
[12:33] <maverick> really?
[12:33] <maverick> xmms independent from that...!!
[12:34] <benh> grrr
[12:34] <ardchoille> or may be it has it already compiled in
[12:34] <Jemidon> hmm interesting
[12:34] <boudewijn> i never use amarok so i wouldnt now. i started it once (with dapper)  and it noticed i had no mp3 support and automaticly downloaded the codec
[12:34] <wepiha> afaik, you need amarok-xine and libmad0 to play mp3s
[12:34] <vzduch> maverick: XMMS has its own MP3 decoder
[12:34] <phoenixz> Any reason why k3b (or Kubuntu) may not detect my DVD writer as a write, but as a reader only????
[12:34] <ardchoille> vzduch: I thought so
[12:35] <ardchoille> phoenixz: Dumb question, are you sure it's a writer? I accidentally bought a dvd reader and coudln't figure out why it wouldn't write.
[12:36] <vzduch> wepiha: indeed, you need libmad0
[12:36] <vzduch> wepiha: as for the sound engine, you could as well use amarok-helix or amarok-gstreamer (don't know the exact names; I think these were the names in openSUSE)
[12:37] <phoenixz> ardchoille, Hahahah.. that would have been cool, but no, it can write.. I used to have Fedora and it worked all ok, also used k3b to write CD's and DVD;s
[12:37] <wepiha> vzduch: ok. I perfer xine, although I know little about the differences!
[12:37] <ardchoille> phoenixz: Ah, ok.. just checking
[12:37] <Jemidon> ard: well that solves that problem, i reckon i'll just use xmms from now on, as long as it has a playlist i can use
[12:37] <vzduch> wepiha: Xine is in many respects superior to the others afaik
[12:38] <ardchoille> Jemidon: It does, and there are some cool skins for it.
[12:38] <vzduch> phoenixz: is the DVD drive detected at all?
[12:38] <maverick> jemidon: xmms is like winamp in lots of aspects...
[12:38] <vzduch> phoenixz: i.e. can you read discs w/ it?
[12:39] <wepiha> I remember a while ago there used to be a sudo command to setup k3b?
[12:39] <maverick> wepiha: sudo apt-get install k3b
[12:39] <maverick> wepiha: that's what you mean?
[12:40] <wepiha> maverick: no, i mean it was a setup-k3b-devices or something to that effect
[12:40] <maverick> ooh i c..
[12:40] <ardchoille> wepiha: I think the devs took that setup and made it per-suer now.. I haven't seen that root setup in a while.
[12:40] <vzduch> maverick: I guess not.. there was a k3bsetup a while ago, but it's not there any more.. to my knowledge it's not needed any more
[12:40] <ardchoille> *per-user
[12:41] <wepiha> ardchoille: indeed. hmmm I wonder what phoenixzs' /etc/fstab says
[12:41] <ardchoille> wepiha: Now you're thiking :)
[12:41] <maverick> i don't like k3b much, i don't know why but it just don't go easy with me burning cds sometimes it just fails
[12:41] <ardchoille> *thinking
[12:41] <wepiha> my entry for /etc/fstab contains       /dev/hda /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
[12:42] <wepiha> most importantly, it has RW
[12:42] <intelikey> nobody know of a "dash like shell" that supports command line editing ?
[12:42] <phoenixz> vzduch, Yeah, I can open files from it, no problem
[12:42] <wepiha> ardchoille: haha it takes a while in the morning :)
[12:42] <ardchoille> lol
[12:43] <vzduch> I remember having had such an issue w/ my DVD drive in another OS.. don't remember how I solved it though
[12:43] <Existz> hey, does talking about your personal lives make you sad?
[12:44] <intelikey> Existz i don't have a personal life so NO.
[12:45] <Jemidon> lol nope doesn't make me sad
[12:45] <wepiha> phoenixz: what is the output from `cat /etc/fstab | grep /dev/hda` if you replace /dev/hda with your dvd burner ?
[12:46] <vzduch> phoenixz: try from the menu --> Tools | Settings --> the 2nd item (probably 'Devices') lists your drives; it also has two buttons: 'Add device' and 'Refresh'
[12:46] <Existz> any of you married?
[12:46] <wepiha> Existz: nope
[12:46] <Existz> how old are you peeps?
[12:46] <wepiha> i'm 17
[12:46] <wepiha> lol
[12:46] <maverick> 19
[12:46] <Existz> ah you're young
[12:46] <wepiha> is this a survey?
[12:46] <vzduch> <-- 30
[12:46] <Existz> surprisingly
[12:47] <Existz> for myself I guess
[12:47] <SlimeyPete> don't answer!
[12:47] <wepiha> actually i'm 25 :p
[12:47] <Existz> just curious
[12:47] <Existz> i'm 25 myself
[12:47] <SlimeyPete> he's trying to steal your identities!
[12:47] <vzduch> lol
[12:47] <Existz> are you really?
[12:47] <wepiha> really
[12:47] <Jemidon> i'm 19 and married
[12:47] <Existz> 17 seemed young
[12:47] <Existz> haha
[12:47] <phoenixz> vzduch, I already checked that, and it does not list my dvd burner
[12:47] <Existz> you're full of shit
[12:47] <Existz> haha
[12:47] <Existz> anyone dating?
[12:47] <PriceChild> !offtopic | Existz
[12:47] <ubotu> Existz: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[12:47] <Existz> yeah
[12:47] <Existz> been there
[12:47] <maverick> 19 and married?!
[12:47] <Existz> it's dead
[12:48] <maverick> seriously?!!
[12:48] <Existz> he must live in some remote state
[12:48] <Existz> like utah
[12:48] <Existz> kentucky
[12:48] <Existz> something
[12:48] <wepiha> phoenixz: what is the output from `cat /etc/fstab | grep /dev/hda` if you replace /dev/hda with your dvd burner ?
[12:48] <Jemidon> maveric: yea
[12:48] <Existz> jemido, where do you live?
[12:48] <phoenixz> wepiha,  /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[12:48] <Existz> jemidon
[12:48] <maverick> well, can i come where you live  :D
[12:48] <PriceChild> Existz, please stop the offtopic chat.
[12:49] <Existz> who's prince?
[12:49] <Minataku> And the swearing
[12:49] <Minataku> PriceChild: He was doing this yesterday, too
[12:49] <Existz> ah some random guy
[12:49] <Minataku> In fact
[12:49] <Minataku> !ops
[12:49] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!
[12:49] <wepiha> Existz: http://becomeaplayer.com/index.htm
[12:49] <Minataku> lol
[12:49] <Minataku> I forgot you were one, PriceChild XD
[12:50] <wepiha> phoenixz: try add rw into it, like;
[12:50] <wepiha> phoenixz:  /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,rw,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[12:50] <wepiha> arrgg
[12:50] <wepiha>  /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,rw,noauto     0       0
[12:50] <wepiha> :p
[12:50] <Jemidon> lol well that fixes the problem
[12:51] <phoenixz> wepiha, How do I remount the DVD drive then?
[12:51] <Existz> wth
[12:51] <Existz> what's with this family orientated crap
[12:51] <wepiha> phoenixz: `sudo umount /media/cdrom0`
[12:51] <wepiha> phoenixz: then `sudo mount -a`
[12:51] <Jemidon> Archoille are you still there?
[12:51] <Existz> hey who the hell is mina?
[12:51] <ardchoille> yes
[12:52] <ardchoille> Jemidon: Pastebin your sources.list
[12:52] <Minataku> Nice work, gnomefreak
[12:52] <ardchoille> !paste
[12:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:52] <Jemidon> ardchoille: ok
[12:52] <vzduch> PriceChild: on a technical note.. how do you 'request' users to leave?  is that a ChanServ feature?
[12:52] <Minataku> It is
[12:52] <PriceChild> vzduch, its a freenode feature
[12:52] <Whiz2__> stdin: you around?
[12:52] <vzduch> ah
[12:53] <stdin> Whiz2__: for a while
[12:53] <Minataku> Usually forced actions are the realm of Services Administrators
[12:53] <PriceChild> vzduch, from see the bottom of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/OperatorGuidelines
[12:53] <Minataku> Which is a very high level of IRC Operator
[12:53] <Jemidon> Ardchoille: do i find my source.list?
[12:53] <Jemidon> !source.list
[12:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about source.list - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:53] <Jemidon> !sourcelist
[12:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sourcelist - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:53] <Minataku> Here, they have it set up to allow Channel Operators to do it in their channels
[12:53] <vzduch> !sources.list
[12:53] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:54] <Minataku> It's done to defeat clients utilizing "Autorejoin on kick"
[12:54] <ardchoille> Jemidon: /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:54] <vzduch> interesting
[12:54] <Whiz2__> stdin: i managed to get it working earlier... but it screwed up the rest of my wireless network when i told router 2 to transmit router 1's infomration... i had to set it back & switch off & back on router 2 when i was done
[12:54] <phoenixz> wepiha, did it, but didnt work
[12:54] <Minataku> BTW, gnomefreak, IINM, Roadrunner has full DHCP, so keep an eye out in case he swaps his IP
[12:55] <Jemidon> says permission denied, am i going to have to do it under root shell?
[12:55] <gnomefreak> Minataku: im not worried
[12:55] <Minataku> gnomefreak: Didn't say you should be, just saying that he might be back
[12:55] <Minataku> So don't go too far ;3
[12:55] <stdin> Whiz2__: strange
[12:55] <Whiz2__> stdin: when i was trying without DHCP, i was plugged directly into router 1
[12:55] <PriceChild> Minataku, btw many have rejoin on remove as well as kick 8-)
[12:55] <wepiha> phoenixz: hmmm
[12:55] <Minataku> PriceChild: Heh, I haven't seen that yet
[12:56] <maverick> jemidon: sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:56] <PriceChild> Minataku, join me in #pricechild
[12:56] <Minataku> Okay
[12:56] <intelikey> stdin you might know.   is there a dash like (posix compliant) shell that supports command line editing ?
[12:56] <phoenixz> wepiha, exactly my thoughts..
[12:56] <richardinglis> hey guys
[12:57] <richardinglis> i ejected a dvd while it was playing
[12:57] <richardinglis> and now i canne watch dvds any more
[12:57] <richardinglis> i get the message 'the source can't be read'
[12:57] <richardinglis> and no plugin found to handle this resource
[12:57] <stdin> intelikey: umm, I haven't found one
[12:57] <richardinglis> i have reinstalled the kaffeine and xine packages
[12:57] <richardinglis> any ideas?
[12:57] <Whiz2__> stdin: thing is, i shouldn't have to go through all that... in the dapper release of kubuntu (which my server runs now) all i have to do is set the manual stuff, and the wired connected no matter which router it was plugged into
[12:58] <Jemidon> Ardchoille: there's my source.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29962/
[12:58] <ardchoille> Jemidon: just do cp /etc/apt/sources.list ~/Desktop/sources.list and then copy paste it into pastebin. No need for root.
[12:58] <stdin> intelikey: I know (da)sh doesn't, and there aren't that many pure posix shells that I've used
[12:58] <Jemidon> ardchoille: i suspect that's how it's supposed to be?
[12:58] <ardchoille> Jemidon: oh, ok, hold on will look.
[12:58] <intelikey> stdin k,  thanks for the intel
[12:58] <[EgO] > Hi all. Help me, plz: I install software for my sinaptics touchpad, but it doesnt work=(
[12:58] <stdin> Whiz2__: not sure what would have changed
[12:59] <ardchoille> Jemidon: You are using the us repos, I had lots of problems until I used diff repos. Want me to help with that?
[12:59] <wepiha> phoenixz: try commenting that line out and adding /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
[12:59] <wepiha> phoenixz: I said comment so you can restore it later if need be ;)
[01:00] <vzduch> ardchoille: do you think the US repos are crippled on purpose?
[01:00] <Jemidon> Ardchoille: sure, if you don't mind, just so I can update, cause i've noticed that alot of my options for programs are greyed out in my package manager like i can't access them or they are non-existant
[01:00] <vzduch> not that that'd bother me personally, I don't live in the US
[01:00] <[EgO] > When i click "keyboard and mouse" in Control center, it says me : "add option SHMConfig 'on'" I do it,but touchpad doesnt work
[01:00] <ardchoille> vzduch: No idea
[01:00] <phoenixz> wepiha, I have a backup of fstab :)
[01:00] <ardchoille> Jemidon: Ok, open a terminal and I'll give you two commands to run.
[01:00] <tams> [EgO] : restarted X?
[01:00] <intelikey> wepiha specifying dev,exec,suid ???     it will default to those settings anyway wont it ?
[01:01] <Whiz2__> [EgO] : touchpad should work by default in kubuntu. what version are you using?
[01:01] <[EgO] > tams, of course
[01:01] <Jemidon> ardchoille: already got terminal open
[01:01] <intelikey> oh and atime
[01:01] <ardchoille> Jemidon: The first command makes a backup just in case:  sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.backup
[01:01] <[EgO] > Whiz2, Kubuntu 7.04
[01:01] <Whiz2__> [EgO] : what version of kubuntu? ;-)
[01:02] <Whiz2__> feisty?
[01:02] <[EgO] > ya
[01:02] <phoenixz> wepiha, didnt work either.. I checked  settings / programs: vcdxbild, vcdxminfo and vcdxrip are not installed.. those could not cause this problem?
[01:02] <Whiz2__> i was in liveCD mode earlier today on a laptop (this laptop in fact) and i have no troubles
[01:02] <Minataku> !repos
[01:02] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:02] <tams> [EgO] : my first try failed because I didn't put quotes around "SHMConfig"
[01:02] <Whiz2__> with the touchpad anyway lol
[01:03] <tams> so the line should read as option "SHMConfig" "on" ... after changing it worked
[01:03] <ardchoille> Jemidon: the second command removes the "us" from the repos that have it:  sudo sed -i 's/us.archive/archive/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:03] <ardchoille> Jemidon: Now update your sources: sudo apt-get update
[01:03] <Whiz2__> [EgO] : did the touchpad ever work in kubuntu?
[01:03] <wepiha> phoenixz: idk, ask around :(
[01:04] <[EgO] > Whiz, my touch work on Ubunru 6.04, but on Kubuntu its doesnt work
[01:04] <Jemidon> ardchoille: it's working on getting the packages and all
[01:04] <ardchoille> Jemidon: yes, it should be updating sources
[01:04] <intelikey> phoenixz for iso9660 and udf  uid=value gid=value and umask=
[01:05] <ardchoille> Jemidon: If all goes well, you can either save or delete /etc/apt/sources.list.backup  it's up to you
[01:05] <Jemidon> ardchoille: so i basically just allowed it to access the world repositories?
[01:05] <ardchoille> Jemidon: right
[01:05] <phoenixz> intelikey, what what what? uid=value  what value? and umask=? where do I put that?
[01:05] <Whiz2__> [EgO] : how odd... not sure what would cause that. maybe they forgot the drivers for it in kubuntu **shrugs** i'm not really familliar with mouse issues in linux
[01:05] <[EgO] > tams, How can i put quotes around SHMConfig?
[01:06] <Jemidon> ard: reason i'm learning all this, is because i'm going to be a computer systems operator in the military, best to go in with as much knowledge as I can seeing as the govt. uses linux
[01:06] <Jemidon> ard: :)
[01:06] <ardchoille> Jemidon: Good idea :)
[01:06] <phoenixz> [EgO] , like this? 'SHMConfig'
[01:06] <intelikey> phoenixz your users uid   echo $UID
[01:06] <Jemidon> ardchoille: ok it's done, now do I try to get a random program and it should work?
[01:06] <ardchoille> Jemidon: It should be fine now
[01:06] <[EgO] > Whiz2, i install drivers
[01:06] <tams> [EgO] : "SHMConfig"... I just said that because at first I took the error message literally and option SHMConfig "on" is not a valid line, it should read az option "SHMConfig" "on"
[01:06] <intelikey> phoenixz default is 1000 in ubuntu
[01:07] <ardchoille> Jemidon: Keep in mind, sometimes certan repos are down at times, can't be helped.
[01:07] <intelikey> mine's eleven
[01:07] <Jemidon> Ardchoille: well hot damn, that works
[01:07] <ardchoille> lol
[01:07] <Jemidon> Ardchoille: yes, i remember from last night's conversation
[01:07] <Whiz2__> [EgO] : those drivers were linux drivers???
[01:07] <Jemidon> Ardchoille: I feel like i've been released to the world...:) lol
[01:08] <ardchoille> hahaha
[01:08] <intelikey> phoenixz and the umask=  is the octal deduction form the permissions of 777
[01:08] <Whiz2__> aka read, write, execute
[01:08] <intelikey> so a umask of umask=000   will yeld permissions of  777 fs wide
[01:08] <tams> [EgO] : and it's all a blur now but I think I first succeeded getting the touchpad working on Feisty when I fist reconfigured xserver-xorg and then edited the fresh xorg.conf
[01:08] <[EgO] > Whiz2: Of course, i download it from repositary
[01:09] <[EgO] > tams : thanks=)
[01:09] <Minataku> umask is 8's complement
[01:09] <intelikey> phoenixz need more info just whistel
[01:09] <[EgO] > tams : i try it=)
[01:09] <Jemidon> ardchoille: now the fun part, getting libdvdcss
[01:10] <tams> [EgO] : np, good luck then :)
[01:10] <Whiz2__> [EgO] : that's really odd... if they are the linux drivers designed for that mouse, then it makes no sense that the mouse would not work.
[01:10] <Minataku> !seveas
[01:10] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:10] <ardchoille> Jemidon: sed and awk are pretty powerful, it would be good to learn them.
[01:10] <ardchoille> !libdvdcss
[01:10] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[01:10] <K-Ryan> !sound
[01:10] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:10] <phoenixz> intelikey, honestly, I don't understand what you are talking about.. you mean to say I should modify the fstab or something?
[01:10] <tams> Whiz2__: the synaptic drivers need the shared memory option to work and you need to enable that manually. After that it works like a charm.
[01:10] <Jemidon> i was waiting on the seveas packages lol
[01:10] <ardchoille> Jemidon: The seveas repo is quite nice
[01:11] <[EgO] > Whiz2: whats Odd? I bad speak english=)
[01:11] <Whiz2__> tams: if you know how to fix the mouse problem, then tell them, not me ;-)
[01:11] <Minataku> [EgO] : If English isn't your primary language, we do have localized channels
[01:11] <Whiz2__> [EgO] : odd = strange
[01:11] <[EgO] > ok
[01:12] <Minataku> What language is your primary?
[01:12] <ardchoille> [EgO] : What is your native language?
[01:12] <[EgO] > russian
[01:12] <ardchoille> !ru
[01:12] <Minataku> !ru
[01:12] <intelikey> phoenixz yes and use the uid umask settings  here's an example;   /dev/dvd /media/dvd udf,iso9660 noauto,uid=1000,umask=015 0 0
[01:12] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[01:12] <tams> Whiz2__: I just tell the symptoms. :D It's pretty darn confusing to see an utility telling you to do a thing that could be automated. Must be some good reasoning behind that.
[01:12] <ardchoille> bot is slow today
[01:12] <Minataku> Today? :P
[01:12] <ardchoille> hahaha
[01:12] <phoenixz> intelikey, wepiha, k9copy also does not see the writer...
[01:12] <[EgO] > !ru
[01:13] <phoenixz> intelikey, okay, what is the umask
[01:13] <Minataku> [EgO] : Look under where we typed it
[01:13] <Minataku> You should see Cyrillic
[01:13] <intelikey> phoenixz octal deduction form the full permission 777
[01:13] <chaotic> hey wheres kmail
[01:13] <Whiz2__> so anyone here know why manual settings would fail to connect me to my router in feisty, but work perfectly fine in dapper?
[01:13] <chaotic> i kno  it comes preloaded
[01:14] <ardchoille> chaotic: You can run it my typing kmail or it's also part of kontact
[01:14] <chaotic> ah ok no wonder lol
[01:14] <Minataku> Considering shared memory is pretty much the norm on every "Not Windows" OS...
[01:14] <Jemidon> Ardchoille: downloading the packages now
[01:14] <vzduch> chaotic: K-Menu >> Internet >> KMail
[01:14] <Minataku> It's surprising that it wouldn't be the obvious default :P
[01:15] <bart_> please can somebody tell me the RIGHT way to install nvidia drivers ???
[01:15] <Minataku> !nv
[01:15] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:15] <K-Ryan> aplay -l
[01:15] <K-Ryan> oops
[01:15] <bart_> that doesn' t work in kubuntu...
[01:15] <K-Ryan> Meant to click my other shell >.>
[01:15] <bart_> Minataku..
[01:15] <K-Ryan> bart_ Yeah it does
[01:15] <ardchoille> bart_: What doesn't work in kubuntu?
[01:15] <Minataku> bart_: It's worked for everyone before you
[01:15] <tams> Minataku: Feisty is really a box of (often dark) entetainment :)
[01:15] <Minataku> lol
[01:16] <bart_> System  Administration  Restricted Devices Manager.
[01:16] <Minataku> I wouldn't know, I use Gentoo
[01:16] <bart_> where can I find that in kde?
[01:16] <tams> hehe :D
[01:16] <clouder> bart_: type restricted-manager in console
[01:16] <Minataku> :3
[01:16] <bart_> must install it first... ok
[01:17] <Minataku> That would certainly help
[01:17] <tams> :DDDDDD
[01:17] <Jemidon> tams: yea, Feisty is a box of dark entertainment, i'm finding that out the hard way
[01:17] <intelikey> phoenixz octal premissions are read  like binary counting    111_2 == 7_8   i.e.  read,write,execute or 111_2  is octal prem 7       and the three digits are   owner,group,world(or other)          thus  umask=027     will yeld a fs wide permission on the disk of 750   owner rwx   group r_x   other ___
[01:17] <Whiz2__> i'm thinking of putting feisty on one of the computers on my network... but if i can't get the manual network settings to connect me to the internet even in liveCD mode, then i'm not even gonna bother... not after what the DHCP stuff did to my network eaarlier
[01:19] <wepiha> Whiz2__: what happened with your dhcp?
[01:19] <Whiz2__> i have 2 routers... 1 connected to the other router 1 is the gateway, and router 2 is the wireless transmitter for my wireless client...
[01:19] <phoenixz> intelikey, I think I have the answer. I am not a member of the group cdrom.. :)
[01:20] <Whiz2__> i switched DHCP on, and told it to transmit router 1's IP as the gate way, annd every wireless client went down... i had to switch everything back, and power cycle router 2 to get my wireless networks back
[01:20] <intelikey> phoenixz all file systems that don't have permissions bits in the fs  use a psuido permission for the whole mount,   among them are iso9660 udf vfat ntfs msdos   and possably others    linux file systems have the permissions on the fs  i.e. each file has it's own perms.     so setting a umask when mounting will set the fs wide permission
[01:21] <wepiha> Whiz2__: and dhclient screwed it royally?
[01:21] <intelikey> phoenixz ok    class dismissed
[01:21] <wepiha> lol
[01:21] <wepiha> ha wouldn't that be nice ;)
[01:21] <Whiz2__> wepiha: dhclient?
[01:22] <wepiha> Whiz2__: its the command used for a dhcp connect, like `sudo dhclient eth0`
[01:22] <Whiz2__> i don't use DHCP because i use port forwarding all across my network
[01:22] <Jemidon> ardchoille:  HELL YEA!!! i got my dvd player working through kaffine with audio!!!1
[01:22] <tams> Whiz2__: not UPnP-compatible routers you have?
[01:22] <Jemidon> Room: now i feel special ed
[01:22] <Whiz2__> UPnP is turned off on the routers
[01:23] <wepiha> Jemidon: I thought this *was* the spec ed room
[01:23] <ardchoille> Jemidon: \o/
[01:23] <Jemidon> wepiha: lol...possibly is
[01:23] <wepiha> hmmm if not where am I supposed to be then??
[01:23] <tams> hmm... I found UPnP to ease most port-forwarding frustration. In fact, I don't have a single port forwarded manually and stuff work fine
[01:23] <Jemidon> hee hee
[01:23] <ardchoille> wepiha: lol
[01:24] <wepiha> offtopic I know ;)
[01:24] <Whiz2__> tams: I turned off UPnP, because it interferes with my forwarded ports... those ports are with progs that are not UPnP compatible ;-)
[01:24] <tams> Oh I see.
[01:25] <tams> I suppose using (eq buying) a simple AP instead of the wireless router is not an option
[01:25] <Whiz2__> tams: nope
[01:25] <tams> s/on/over/
[01:26] <Whiz2__> tams: the UPnP is on the wired router anyway :-p
[01:26] <Minataku> I have a two-in-one
[01:26] <Minataku> It's a wired router + AP
[01:26] <Minataku> Extremely convienent
[01:27] <tams> I suppose Whiz2__ has one of those too
[01:27] <Minataku> No, he said he has two
[01:27] <tams> yea right
[01:27] <Whiz2__> Minataku: i don't have that option... my wireless router is meant to be an AP, but it's designed as a DSL router... i have it networked to router 1, because i use Cable :-p
[01:27] <Minataku> Mine's an ethernet router, DSL or Cable
[01:27] <Whiz2__> so yea i have one too lol
[01:28] <Minataku> I have it connected to my cable modem
[01:28] <tams> Minataku: I have one, spen a s-notniceword-load money on and turns out the signal is weak at my main spot of the house :D
[01:28] <Whiz2__> so is my wired router... but that's wrired
[01:28] <draik> I can't seem to get VMware server to read my HDD's partition of winxp
[01:28] <draik> Any clues?
[01:28] <Minataku> tams: Mine was nice and cheap
[01:28] <intelikey> man.    first liar ain't never got a chance...
[01:28] <tams> good for you :] 
[01:28] <Minataku> D-Link DI-614+
[01:28] <tams> draik: symptoms
[01:28] <draik> No OS found
[01:29] <intelikey> @jemidon
[01:29] <Whiz2__> Minataku: i don't have the money to replace my wired router with a spiffy new  one
[01:29] <draik> I go Local Host
[01:29] <Minataku> Heh
[01:29] <tams> no idea o.O
[01:29] <Minataku> The DI-614+ has actually been EOL for a couple years now
[01:29] <tams> draik: wait, aren't you choosing partitions, etc?
[01:29] <Jemidon> intelikey: hee hee...i did ride on top of a short bus through the rain and sun, but it wasn't a daily occurance
[01:29] <Minataku> I've even got the old version of it, no less
[01:29] <draik> Then I click on Create A New Virtual Machine...
[01:29] <draik> Yeah
[01:29] <Minataku> The one with the ARM7 and two antennas
[01:29] <Minataku> tams: You can get high-gain antennas
[01:30] <intelikey> Jemidon i did ride a short bus    but not to school   :)
[01:30] <Minataku> If it lets you switch antennas, I had to do that with mine
[01:30] <tams> Minataku: last time I checked they cost more than a separate AP
[01:30] <Minataku> tams: Mine was pretty cheap, too
[01:30] <draik> nosrednaekim stated that I should choose Bridged Network, which I do
[01:30] <Minataku> Who you buying from, Cisco?
[01:30] <tams> god knows who :)
[01:30] <Jemidon> yea, high gain annennas will hhelp alot
[01:31] <chaotic> i think i removed kontact  when i removed kmail
[01:31] <intelikey> chaotic probably
[01:31] <intelikey> i think it's  a dep
[01:31] <edson> how to modify of kdm for gdm?
[01:31] <Whiz2__> here are the symptom: when using the wireless adapter, kubuntu doesn't even configure the device... just gets stuck... so forget that option... when i connect to the wired router directly, and try to set manual IP, netmask, gateway, and DNS, i get nothing at all...
[01:31] <tams> And this antenna is just for my router, right? What about the poor little latop? I don't know the physics of this but do the clients need some sort of enhancement?
[01:31] <Minataku> Yeah, sounds like a case of retarded dependencies, chaotic
[01:31] <Minataku> tams: Negative
[01:31] <intelikey> edson you mean switch from kdm to using gdm ?
[01:32] <tams> nice
[01:32] <tams> Whiz2__: what does the syslog say?
[01:32] <Jemidon> tams: all the high gain does is amplify your signal strenth
[01:32] <Jemidon> tams: i have replaced mine on my linksys router
[01:32] <tams> neat. I'll do my homework on that
[01:32] <Minataku> Antennas always have a dB gain associated with them
[01:32] <Whiz2__> tams: i dunno i'm not in it anymore.. but i can be on my other comp if ya gimme a few?
[01:32] <Jemidon> tams: and it works like a charm :)
[01:32] <edson> intelikey, yes
[01:32] <Minataku> Some antenna designs have a higher gain
[01:32] <intelikey> edson if so:   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow gdm
[01:32] <Whiz2__> who knows... it might just work on the other one lol
[01:32] <draik> tams: Yeah. It's all on the same HDD
[01:33] <Minataku> Anywhere along the line you can boost the dB increases it for the whole system
[01:33] <tams> Whiz2__: I didn't mean I can help, but when KNetworkManager hates me the syslog usually helps
[01:33] <Whiz2__> lol
[01:33] <tams> draik: no idea, sorry :(
[01:33] <tams> :)
[01:33] <Whiz2__> Minataku: you talkin to me?
[01:33] <Minataku> No
[01:33] <Whiz2__> ok
[01:33] <Jemidon> Minataku: i may not know much about linux, but we got plenty of introduction to high gain antennas at college :) lol
[01:33] <edson> intelikey, thank you. ;)
[01:33] <intelikey> for a fellow that doesn't even have sudo installed   i sure type sudo a lot.
[01:33] <Minataku> Jemidon: Heh
[01:34] <intelikey> edson welcome
[01:34] <tams> Minataku: thanks for the info
[01:34] <Minataku> I'm a computer engineering technology student
[01:34] <Minataku> We did a little on antennas/transmission systems
[01:34] <Whiz2__> Minataku: wish i was lol
[01:34] <tams> Whiz2__: oh, one thing I have learned about the Feisty networking. turning the adapter on and off actually helps. no comment on this one
[01:35] <Minataku> Wires and air always a dB loss, antennas and gear a dB gain
[01:35] <Whiz2__> tams: tried that ;-)
[01:35] <Jemidon> Minataku: i was an IT specialist for my old college, now i'm going into the USAF to work on database security
[01:35] <Minataku> Jemidon: Cool
[01:35] <Jemidon> and general networking sercurity :)
[01:35] <tams> you make me feel like a script kiddie
[01:37] <wepiha> I can't get any sound in from Line-input. argh!
[01:37] <Jemidon> sorry :->
[01:37] <edson> intelikey, I was I installed kubuntu-desktop in ubuntu, the screen of splashscreen I moved of "ubuntu" for "kubuntu" as to modify again for "ubuntu"?
[01:38] <intelikey> !usplash | edson the later portion of this is how to regenerate the initramfs image
[01:38] <ubotu> edson the later portion of this is how to regenerate the initramfs image: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[01:40] <intelikey> and if you use lilo you already know that you will have to re-run lilo for the system to be bootable
[01:40] <tams> if I have both ubuntu-desktop installed on kubuntu is there a way to avoid gnome creeping into my desktop? I haven't been able to identify the sources but after using the system for more than a few hours gtk applications start to use the gnome desktop's widgets, the volume osd gets replaced, etc.
[01:41] <aaroncampbell> How do I add/remove fonts?
[01:41] <intelikey> !fonts | aaroncampbell
[01:41] <ubotu> aaroncampbell: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[01:42] <aaroncampbell> thanks
[01:43] <intelikey> tams that shouldn't be time related but rather app related.  i.e.  if you boot the box and walk away, a month later it should still be the same; but if you open gnome apps in ked it starts several gtk services...
[01:43] <intelikey> kde even
[01:44] <intelikey> i know that's not the answer you want...   jsut thinking out loud
[01:44] <tams> right. I use tomboy a lot, but when I start it looks like the standard butt ugly gtk up. Then a few vague operations later it is ubuntu-studio black&blue. I know it's not time-related, I just don't know which apps mess up the place
[01:44] <tams> :)
[01:44] <tams> s/up/app/ ... pardon
[01:45] <edson> intelikey, where if it finds the screens of usplash?
[01:45] <wepiha> someone must know how to enable 'Shared Rear/Line-In' switch in kmix?
[01:45] <intelikey> edson you know,  i don't know...     sorry.
[01:46] <meuhlol> hi all
[01:46] <intelikey> wepiha crimsun's the man
[01:46] <wepiha> intelikey: thanks aye!
[01:46] <wepiha> crimsun: home?
[01:46] <tams> is there a way to issue a command that is effectively "please remove all packages that ubuntu-desktop depends on but please keep ones that are dependencies and I'd also like tomboy left on the system"? :)
[01:47] <intelikey> tams don't ask much, do ya...
[01:47] <Jemidon> lol never,
[01:48] <tams> :P
[01:48] <intelikey> tams   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38188
[01:48] <intelikey> have fun
[01:49] <tams> yeeeah :D
[01:49] <tams> thx
[01:50] <intelikey> tams you can compair that with kubuntu-desktop's deps and see what "not to remove"   :)))
[01:50] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38189
[01:50] <intelikey> just in case you are interested .
[01:51] <tams> righty, thanks
[01:53] <intelikey> of course if i wasn't so lazy i could script that for you in about the time it would take to paste both of those ....
[01:54] <intelikey> but i don't want to think today...
[01:56] <tams> hacked up a script for that, but thanks
[01:56] <tams> so I just remove the diffs with apt-get now?
[01:56] <VerWolF>  ?
[01:57] <VerWolF> Hi all
[01:57] <tams> oh, its some manual editing :\
[01:57] <tams> too
[02:03] <tams> intelikey: http://tams.hu/rem.html <- these are the diff minus the packages I'd like to keep. But when I issue the command apt-get tells me it will remove a whole lot of k-packages, so I think it wants my whole kde, the house and the car too
[02:03] <intelikey> tams something like.      for P in `cat ubuntu-desktop.deps` ;do cat kubuntu-desktop.deps |
[02:03] <intelikey> grep -q $P || echo $P ;done
[02:03] <intelikey> err one line.
[02:06] <intelikey> sudo apt-get remove $(for P in `cat ubuntu-desktop.deps` ;do cat kubuntu-desktop.deps | grep -q $P || echo $P ;done)    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
[02:06] <tams> yeah, same result as the one I've got
[02:06] <tams> And it still wants to kill my kde
[02:07] <intelikey> did you install kubuntu-desktop   or   kde  ?
[02:07] <intelikey> the deps are different
[02:08] <tams> well, this system started as kubuntu, so kubuntu-desktop
[02:08] <tams> and if I isse an apt-get remove with the packages that one-liner gives apt-get says it will remove all adept, etc.
[02:08] <intelikey> tam try this...        for P in `cat ubuntu-desktop.deps` ;do cat kubuntu-desktop.deps | grep -q $P || sudo apt-get remove $P ;done
[02:08] <[EgO] > tams and Whiz2__ : I do it! =)
[02:08] <tams> k
[02:09] <intelikey> back later maybe.
[02:09] <tams> [EgO] : congrats!
[02:09] <[EgO] > tams and Whiz2__ : I do it myself =)
[02:09] <tams> k bye
[02:09] <tams> oops
[02:10] <Whiz2__> [EgO] : congratulations glad you got it
[02:10] <aaroncampbell> Is anyone else having problems with Thunderbird shutting down randomly (when I'm not even using it)?  It's REALLY frustrating, especially when it happens while I'm not home, because mail doesn't get sorted into folders, so ALL my mail is retrieved by my Moto Q.
[02:12] <[EgO] > Im going sleep. 04 am on my clock. Bye all:)
[02:13] <chaotic> when u install a game with  wine where  does it put the exe at
[02:15] <tams> ~/.wine/drive_c ...
[02:15] <chaotic> so that   would  be usr/bin/
[02:16] <tams> rather /home/chaotic/.wine/drive_c/...
[02:16] <tams> i suppose
[02:17] <chaotic> thnx
[02:17] <tams> np
[02:18] <chaotic> theresno wine folder in home/chaotic
[02:18] <tams> dot wine, ergo ".wine"
[02:19] <naught101> does anyone know how to stop "guidance-power-manager" from starting on boot
[02:19] <naught101> ?
[02:19] <robotpoke> what would i use to remap the caps lock to the control key?
[02:19] <tams> ls -la /home/chaotic|grep .wine
[02:20] <tams> robotpoke: this tells you exactly that: http://www.columbia.edu/~djv/docs/keyremap.html
[02:23] <robotpoke> tams: thanks
[02:24] <clouder> naught101: you could try stopping kde-guidance service from sarting at boot, but I don't know what kind of side effects that might have
[02:25] <ShockValue> any other news binary leeachers besides klibido work well in KDE?  klibido is kinda not doing it for me
[02:26] <intelikey> back eariler maybe...
[02:27] <dcosson> i installed kubuntu with the "alternate installer"... and i get no boot screen;  i get grub's "loading" message, then black screen for about 15-20 seconds then KDM... does anyone know, does the alternate installer not install whatever makes the boot screen happen?
[02:27] <naught101> clouder: I think I found it in /usr/share/autostart/
[02:27] <naught101> just removed the .desktop
[02:27] <intelikey> !usplash
[02:27] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[02:30] <Stanton> is it possible to run two os's at one time on same screen with out Virulaiztion?
[02:30] <csatlose_> hello, can anyone see my messages?
[02:30] <Stanton> yes csatlose_
[02:30] <csatlose_> I'm looking for help on starting external hd with linux cd
[02:31] <chaotic> ineed to be root so i can install  nvidia drivers  how can i do that
[02:31] <intelikey> Stanton i dont see how
[02:31] <Expecto> Stanton: I doubt that
[02:31] <chaotic> can anyone tell me how to be root
[02:31] <csatlose_> chaotic type sudo -s
[02:31] <intelikey> !sudo
[02:31] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:31] <ryanakca> Why can I only have one reiserfs partition in my LVM? After create one, all the free space afterwards becomes 'unusable'...
[02:32] <chaotic> no because after i run sudo nvidia.run  it needs root admin also
[02:33] <chaotic> not jjust a one line thing
[02:33] <intelikey> ryanakca primary limit ?
[02:33] <csatlose_> hi, do you know if it is possible to startup kubuntu on an external hd from a cdrom
[02:33] <intelikey> ryanakca i think linux only allows 4 primary partitions pre disk
[02:33] <tams> chaotic: sudo bash ;)
[02:34] <intelikey> per
[02:34] <Expecto> csatlose_ i think it's possible w/o a cdrom
[02:34] <intelikey> tams no sudo -i
[02:34] <ryanakca> intelikey: it's the only partition in the LVM, and I can create 3 ext3 patitions other wise
[02:34] <tams> 'kay, one more thing I learned :)
[02:34] <intelikey> ryanakca then sounds like a bug
[02:34] <csatlose_> expecto: my pc won't boot USB, so I thought I would be able to give a startup parameter in cd boot
[02:35] <Expecto> csatlose_ I know that DamnSmallLinux has that option...but on an HD I guess that isn't quite what you're going for
[02:36] <MarcC> is there a "character map" equivalent in Kubuntu?
[02:36] <MarcC> oh...character map...heh
[02:36] <MarcC> :P nvm
[02:37] <intelikey> grub; whether it's on hd cd or thumb drive is still just grub and is as weak as the bios... if bios can't boot it, then grub can't boot it piriod
[02:37] <raylu> after pressing start or install Kubuntu on the livecd, I get a blinking cursor and two lines at the bottom fo my screen
[02:38] <raylu> Int 14: CR2 cf800000  err 00000000 EIP c020c384...etc
[02:38] <intelikey> now if you make a place for the kernel  "a boot partition maybe"   the linux once booted can mount just about any fs
[02:38] <Whiz2___> ok well umm... that was just interesting
[02:39] <tams> Whiz2___: you're maturing. I see you're growing underscores.
[02:39] <intelikey> heh
[02:39] <Whiz2___> ran the LiveCD for feisty on the computer I'm thinking of installing it on, and tried the manual settings...  my ENTIRE network went down til i renewed my ISP IP address
[02:39] <Stanton> how would i reinstall linux with out unpartitioning and then installing on emty partition for i dont know my Vista partition name
[02:39] <Whiz2> I just got shorter ;-)
[02:39] <Expecto> Whiz2, don't install it...obviously
[02:39] <Whiz2> or not
[02:39] <Stanton> i just used guaded most free thingy
[02:39] <tams> First shave. :)
[02:40] <Whiz2> but but but i LIKE it!
[02:40] <tams> Whiz2: I suppose that you can't blame that on Kubuntu :)
[02:40] <Expecto> Whiz2...and if it kills your network?
[02:40] <Whiz2> well as you can see the network is back, buti still have no access
[02:40] <Expecto> Stanton, I have no clue what you just said
[02:40] <Whiz2> on that comp anyway
[02:41] <Stanton> i never do allso!
[02:41] <Expecto> wow
[02:41] <intelikey> Stanton "manually setup the partitions"   option in the installer
[02:41] <Stanton> guess i ask my friend whom likes linux
[02:41] <Stanton> ok what would i do i nthere?
[02:42] <raylu> manually set up the partitions :P
[02:42] <Stanton> is there instructions on internet?
[02:42] <raylu> you should be able to identify your vista drive
[02:42] <raylu> by the size and the fact that it's ntfs
[02:42] <Stanton> how?
[02:42] <Stanton> oh
[02:42] <Expecto> Stanton: if you know the sizes of your partitions you can figure out which is which and which you need to format
[02:42] <Expecto> that too
[02:42] <Expecto> forgot about ntfs
[02:42] <Stanton> i have two 10gbs
[02:42] <Stanton> and one 230gb
[02:42] <Stanton> ...
[02:42] <Stanton> and two 5gb
[02:43] <intelikey> Stanton your windows fs will be makred  NTFS  ...
[02:43] <Expecto> is the 230 your vista one?
[02:43] <Stanton> yes
[02:43] <Expecto> just don't mess w/ that one
[02:43] <Stanton> i just let linux acesses it
[02:43] <Stanton> well to run programs
[02:43] <Stanton> lol
[02:43] <Stanton> ok
[02:43] <Stanton> soo basicly install on et3?
[02:43] <Stanton> w/e
[02:44] <Expecto> indeed
[02:44] <Stanton> ok sounds easy
[02:44] <rewolf> awe
[02:44] <rewolf> awe
[02:44] <rewolf> awe
[02:44] <aaroncampbell> Is anyone else having problems with Thunderbird shutting down randomly (when I'm not even using it)?  It's REALLY frustrating, especially when it happens while I'm not home, because mail doesn't get sorted into folders, so ALL my mail is retrieved by my Moto Q.
[02:44] <Stanton> i should be back on linux then
[02:44] <raylu> after pressing start or install Kubuntu on the livecd, I get a blinking cursor and two lines at the bottom fo my screen; if I turn acpi off, it works but is painfully slow
[02:44] <aaroncampbell> The last thing I remember doing to my system is installing Google Desktop.  Does anyone know of any problems with Google Desktop and Thunderbird?
[02:44] <Stanton> and its 64bit ^^
[02:44] <raylu> o.0?? google desktop for nix?
[02:44] <Expecto> raylu, i'm thinking the same thing
[02:45] <tams> yes, it's true :)
[02:45] <aaroncampbell> raylu: yep
[02:45] <raylu> http://desktop.google.com/linux/index.html
[02:45] <raylu> omg. wtf!
[02:45] <chaotic> how do i exit xserver
[02:45] <raylu> chaotic, why?
[02:45] <aaroncampbell> Doesn't have the sidebar and widgets, but it DOES do all the searching, etc
[02:45] <chaotic> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run
[02:45] <chaotic> nvidia installer asking me to
[02:46] <raylu> chaotic, ctrl+alt+f1
[02:46] <raylu> login, sudo killall kdm
[02:46] <raylu> then ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run
[02:46] <raylu> but i dont recommend doing that
[02:46] <raylu> as it's better to install nvidia drivers from the repos
[02:46] <tams> aaroncampbell: beagle does the same, doesn't it?
[02:46] <Expecto> aaroncampbell, that's a bore then
[02:47] <raylu> so basically...its locate with a google gui
[02:47] <aaroncampbell> tams: yes, this is very similar, but Google seems to be simpler, and more powerful
[02:47] <tams> i see
[02:47] <raylu> !beagle
[02:47] <ubotu> Services to index files for fast searching include: Beagle (front-ends: beagle, catfish, gnome-main-menu, mozilla-beagle for !GNOME; kerry, kio-beagle for !KDE; beaglefs for !CLI) - Tracker (tracker-search-tool, libdeskbar-tracker for GNOME; tracker-utils for CLI) - Strigi (strigi-applet, strigi-client for KDE, strigi-utils for CLI) - Kat (for KDE) - Pinot (and pinot-applet for GNOME) - Doodle (for CLI)
[02:47] <aaroncampbell> raylu: if locate could search your imap E-Mail accounts, etc ;)
[02:48] <raylu> o.0...
[02:48] <raylu> i suppose it'd be useful if I had more files on my nix drive
[02:48] <raylu> so, can anoyone answer my question/help me?
[02:49] <Stanton> oh
[02:49] <intelikey> raylu repete it for me
[02:49] <Stanton> is it possible to install linux while in virual os and install on the real hd?
[02:49] <raylu> [19:44:20]  <raylu> after pressing start or install Kubuntu on the livecd, I get a blinking cursor and two lines at the bottom fo my screen; if I turn acpi off, it works but is painfully slow
[02:50] <intelikey> raylu sounds like the cd is hosed,  or possably out of ram condition but you probably have more than 192m ram
[02:50] <tams> Stanton: if by virtual os you mean live cd then of course
[02:51] <aaroncampbell> intelikey: it also searches your web history, your gmail if you want, and cab combine your local results into a standard Google search (so you get Web and Local results together)
[02:51] <intelikey> aaroncampbell i don't have web history
[02:51] <Stanton> by with out booting up into cd and staying in os and useing virualiztion
[02:51] <Stanton> like microsoft virual pc
[02:51] <Stanton> and installl on the real hd and partition
[02:52] <tams> I can't really folow you
[02:52] <Stanton> ..
[02:52] <Stanton> ok
[02:52] <intelikey> aaroncampbell and what you are describing sound like "bloat" gone to seed again...  :)
[02:52] <chaotic> some reason was still  saying i had xserver on
[02:52] <Stanton> lets say i start linux into virual pc and tell it to install on to the REAL harddrive with out even rebooting and booting into the os it self
[02:52] <raylu> actually...it seems to be fine now...
[02:52] <Stanton> kinda
[02:52] <tams> the thought of google stuff always wakes the paraniod in me
[02:53] <raylu> now I need to get a DLink G-120 USB wireless adapter running
[02:53] <tams> but nowadays you just can't escape using the services of thos guys
[02:53] <Stanton> indeed.
[02:53] <Stanton> like microsoft.
[02:53] <Stanton> cant play good games with out em
[02:53] <Whiz2__> well the DHCP worked for the wired router without screwing up the network... YAY!
[02:54] <Stanton> only good game that i was able to play on linux was half life 2 and flightgear.. soo guess be "games"
[02:54] <tams> Whiz2__: congrats :)
[02:54] <Expecto> Stanton, the only game worth playing is Neverwinter Nights, and that's linux-capable
[02:54] <tams> wow, that was religious :D
[02:54] <Stanton> it is?
[02:54] <Stanton> 1 or two
[02:54] <Stanton> i only have 1
[02:54] <Stanton> ..
[02:55] <tams> um, that was for nwn
[02:55] <Stanton> soo 1
[02:55] <Stanton> ..
[02:55] <tams> but I always thought Chicken Invaders 2 iz da shit
[02:55] <Whiz2__> now the question is whether or not i can resize my NTFS partition without losing/corrupting any of the data on it...
[02:55] <Stanton> lol
[02:55] <phoenixz> Hi there, I am using SVK and whenever I use svk status /usr and then I press <TAB>, I get this error: "bash: /usr/bin/svk-completion.pl: No such file or directory" What is this about? I just want auto completion, thats it..
[02:55] <tams> Whiz2__: only pqmagic does that well
[02:55] <intelikey> !language
[02:55] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:56] <Stanton> define "family"
[02:56] <Stanton> ...
[02:56] <Stanton> for my family any thing gose.. o.o
[02:56] <tams> Stanton: words that MTV doesn't censor
[02:56] <Stanton> go'se
[02:56] <Stanton> ohh
[02:56] <Stanton> ...
[02:56] <Stanton> neat
[02:56] <tams> intelikey: sorry if _that_ was offensive :)
[02:57] <Whiz2__> tams: where can i install that from?
[02:57] <tams> um, IsoHunt :(
[02:57] <rasa> $50 via paypal, if someone can help me get Kubuntu to use 1920x1200 on my inspiron 1705(9400) (I've spent *HOURS* and am ready to give up!)
[02:57] <Starn_> meh
[02:58] <Starn_> my comp kicked me off
[02:58] <Starn_> o.o
[02:58] <Starn_> see why i want linux?
[02:58] <intelikey> Stanton if you need a better descriptive term.  how about, "don't say anything that would imbaress a sunday school teacher"  then you got it covered.
[02:58] <Starn_> ...
[02:58] <hero> kubuntu seems to have an issue with my media keys (inspiron 1200).  when i hit page down it turns down the volume sometimes instead of paging down. anyone have a link to where i might fix that once and for all?
[02:58] <Starn_> oh..
[02:58] <Starn_> well shoot..
[02:58] <Starn_> that be every thing that procceses in my mind..
[02:59] <hero> !keyboard
[02:59] <ubotu> To find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[02:59] <Starn_> gah dangit.. i dont remmber were my comp installed my os's
[03:00] <Whiz2__> Why don't i just use Partition magic for windows? ;-)
[03:00] <hero> hmm, that wasn't helpful
[03:00] <hero> !mediakeys
[03:00] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[03:01] <tams> Whiz2__: that's pqmagic afaik :)
[03:01] <wepiha> hero: you may want to run `xev` and press the offending keys
[03:01] <intelikey> hero find what you want ?
[03:01] <hero> intelikey: i'll try what i've found and see what happens
[03:01] <runlevelten> night all.
[03:01] <hero> thanks
[03:01] <hero> wepiha: k
[03:02] <intelikey> runlevelten
[03:02] <wepiha> hero: you can read what 'keysym:' they provide and remap accordingly
[03:02] <hero> wepiha: it doesn't do anything
[03:02] <Starn_> ookay heres my question
[03:02] <wepiha> hero: run in konsole ;)
[03:02] <hero> oh
[03:02] <hero> right, i knew that
[03:02] <Starn_> if i was to start linux into an virual pc program and try to install it from there would that work?
[03:03] <wepiha> page up and page down produce 'next' and 'prior' on my system
[03:03] <Starn_> nvm dosnt work sys i am installing is 64
[03:03] <Starn_> ...
[03:03] <miles> hello?
[03:03] <miles> can yall hear me
[03:03] <intelikey> Starn_ you have waited long enough you could have tested to see by now....
[03:03] <Starn_>  and sys the vpc is on is 32
[03:03] <tams> miles: pong
[03:03] <Starn_> lol
[03:03] <raylu> how would i get to smb://foor from the konsole?
[03:04] <miles> hey this is my first time using irc
[03:04] <hero> yeah, i don't get output like that at all
[03:04] <Starn_> kinda
[03:04] <miles> this shit is tight!
[03:04] <Starn_> i was installing microsoft virual pc
[03:04] <Starn_> when i first asked.
[03:04] <hero> or wait, yes i do.
[03:04] <wepiha> ms viral pc (reg) (tm)
[03:04] <hero> get the same thing as you, wepiha
[03:04] <runlevelten> miles: consider roughage.
[03:04] <runlevelten> (or prunes)
[03:04] <wepiha> hero: ok. now consider the offending keys
[03:04] <miles> i dont get it
[03:05] <miles> yo yo yo wassup?!
[03:05] <phoenixz> I want to modify some partitions.. What program is best used for that? I heard that gparted is good but its gnome, is there a KDE version for it?
[03:05] <tams> runlevelten: :D
[03:05] <miles> qparted
[03:05] <runlevelten> ;)
[03:05] <Starn_> would you guys recumind 64bit linux or 32bit linux? i can run ether one
[03:05] <tams> phoenixz: stick with gparted :)
[03:05] <miles> im runnin 64bit right now, no difference noticed
[03:05] <runlevelten> Starn_: what you using the machine for?
[03:05] <Starn_> stuff
[03:05] <Starn_> some games
[03:06] <miles> laff
[03:06] <Starn_> work sorta
[03:06] <Starn_> and python programing
[03:06] <intelikey> runlevelten i'm jelous  my system only has runlevels 0 through 9
[03:06] <wepiha> Starn_: personally, I use 64 bit for a minor performance increase. although it can be tricky getting some 32 bit apps running (eg: wine, flash etc)
[03:06] <runlevelten> I'd stick with 32bit, tbh.
[03:06] <tams> Starn_: 32bit and you won't have problems with flash, etc
[03:06] <miles> flash doesnt work for 64bit linux?
[03:06] <phoenixz> tams, Isnt it possible to rewrite gparted so it also works under KDE? Like.. kparted? I mean, all it needs to change is that it should use the Qt libraries.. and obviously I am thinking too simple here :)
[03:06] <Starn_> how long untell flash gets 64bit?
[03:06] <Starn_> nope it dosnt
[03:06] <wepiha> miles: it does
[03:06] <Starn_> i did have worken linux
[03:06] <Starn_> it dose!?
[03:06] <Starn_> how?
[03:07] <miles> pheonix: its called qparted
[03:07] <Starn_> wait ill ask when i get linux worken agen
[03:07] <Whiz2__> how good is qtparted as resizing NTFS partitions?
[03:07] <wepiha> using nspluginwrapper
[03:07] <wepiha> !flash
[03:07] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[03:07] <tams> phoenixz: yeah, qparted it is, but gparted is definitely better
[03:07] <miles> !flash
[03:08] <runlevelten> intelikey: mine actually goes up to eleven
[03:08] <miles> irc is crazy
[03:08] <runlevelten> having fun miles?
[03:08] <Starn_>  god i am loveing google bookmarks for this stuff
[03:08] <miles> yea its aight
[03:08] <runlevelten> good stuff :)
[03:08] <miles> i never got my wireless working with kubunutu
[03:09] <phoenixz> tams, meaning they are NOT the same project then?
[03:09] <tams> phoenixz: yepp
[03:09] <miles> so instead, i bought a wrt54gs router, flashed it with dd-wrt, and now i have a wireless bridge
[03:09] <runlevelten> right, sleep for me. I am just all partied out with spending my saturday night in IRC xD
[03:09] <intelikey> runlevelten heh  i just added 10 11 12  so i have  bakers dozen now  :)
[03:09] <miles> o shoot, i just installed eclipse
[03:10] <runlevelten> You can't go up to twelve - it'll never take the strain!
[03:10] <miles> eclipse > jbuilder
[03:10] <tams> runlevelten: yeah, fuel my depression for staying home working... deadlines are wonderful
[03:10] <runlevelten> tams: gotta love em
[03:10] <runlevelten> miles, for java?
[03:11] <miles> yea
[03:11] <hero> so where do i configure the type of keyboard in k?
[03:11] <raylu> o.0
[03:11] <runlevelten> How are you feeling about netbeans at the moment?
[03:11] <miles> i prefer eclipse
[03:11] <raylu> i can't access a windows share witih smb://
[03:11] <runlevelten> It's getting amazing these days - a real turnaround
[03:11] <miles> o really?
[03:11] <raylu> i see the files but it won't let me copy/use them
[03:11] <Starn_> how would i trick virtual pc to think its running on 64bit so i can install on 64bit.. for i have 64bit proccesor but os running virtual pc is 32bit and i dont know how to update vista to 64bit
[03:11] <runlevelten> yeah
[03:11] <raylu> nor do i know how to get to smb:// in the konsole
[03:12] <phoenixz> I have another problem.. I had a harddrive mounted, and I was removing all its contents with rm -rf.. halfway, rm suddenly suddenly throws in a number of "permission denied" and then "Input / Output" error.. then an ls of the mounted directory gives me this: "?--------- ? ?    ?       ?                ? VolGroup00-home"
[03:12] <miles> thats cool, ill check it out, ive been doing a lot of java development at work
[03:12] <miles> pwnd
[03:12] <phoenixz> Dies anybody knows what this means?
[03:12] <phoenixz> Dies = Does
[03:12] <tams> raylu: thos are kioslaves, if I remember correctly they dont work in console
[03:12] <runlevelten> An eclipse guy myself for the Java - so give it a shot, you might come to the same sort of conclusion
[03:12] <raylu> phoenixz, fs type?
[03:12] <hero> ok, so which of the dell layouts would be for a laptop?
[03:12] <raylu> tams, in that case, how do I mount a network share? there's a smbfs, right?
[03:12] <tams> raylu: make a separate account with a password just for accessing the shares and enter that credentials at the prompt
[03:13] <phoenixz> raylu, ext3.. the drive was LVM volume, mounted from /dev/mapper/VolGroup00
[03:13] <raylu> make a seperate account and...what prompt?
[03:13] <miles> raylu: you need smbclient to access smb shares
[03:13] <runlevelten> right, sleep sleep sleep. later folks
[03:13] <raylu> phoenixz, I think you removed the equivalent of the master file table
[03:13] <tams> raylu: I mean, on the win box, make an smb or whatever account with the pass. Weird, but this was the solution over here.
[03:13] <phoenixz> raylu, you mean superblock?
[03:14] <Starn_> i lost my self with my question..
[03:14] <phoenixz> raylu, How could I remove that?
[03:14] <raylu> sure; i dont know ext3 :P
[03:14] <raylu> tams, ...so I have to install samba?
[03:14] <tams> raylu: when you click on files do you get a password prompt?
[03:14] <raylu> actually, i had a password prompt from something
[03:14] <gumjo> hello, is there some app that will recognize multiple copies of same pictures and delete them?
[03:14] <tams> yeah, there's some weridness around passwords
[03:14] <miles> .......
[03:15] <miles> o jeez, starn left
[03:15] <hero> there's got to be a way to make it so the page down doesn't trip the function key.
[03:15] <tams> make an account on the win box, like smb, add a pass and enter that user+pass at the prompt
[03:15] <hero> i tried to change the kb layout to dell dimension laptop
[03:15] <hero> but that didn't do any good
[03:15] <raylu> tams, why can't I just use my raylu account?
[03:16] <intelikey> hero try 101 key lyout
[03:16] <hero> yeah, i did
[03:16] <hero> it still tries to make volume go down with the page down key
[03:16] <tams> raylu: no clue. I've lost a few hair at home until I tried this stupid solution and it worked.
[03:16] <raylu> o.0
[03:16] <hero> i'm not as interested in enabling the media keys as i am getting page down to do its job
[03:16] <raylu> imma try mounting it as smbfs
[03:16] <miles> does anyone here play any good FPS's on kubuntu?
[03:16] <intelikey> hero hmmm check the kde hotkeys, see that volume control is not bound to pgdn
[03:17] <hero> intelikey: in shortcut schemes?
[03:17] <intelikey> miles is there such a thing as a "good FPS"  ?
[03:18] <tams> intelikey: some define that as suicide
[03:18] <miles> counter-strike source
[03:18] <intelikey> hero i don't have kde  i thought it was kcontrol
[03:18] <miles> counter-strike source = best fps
[03:18] <hero> you're in kubuntu and you don't have kde?
[03:18] <miles> me? i have kde
[03:18] <tams> miles: that was a statement, not a question there :)
[03:18] <intelikey> tams killing a pig ?
[03:19] <tams> that was rude!
[03:19] <miles> tams: do you play any games on linux?
[03:19] <intelikey> sui cide ???
[03:19] <intelikey> oh  never mind.
[03:19] <erov> wolfenstein: enemy territory, open arena
[03:19] <leileilol> aka best game ever
[03:19] <leileilol> er i mean
[03:19] <miles> open arena, im a google it real quick
[03:19] <tams> miles: no, at one time I've got a life and only work with computers. (pretend that I'm not on IRC)
[03:20] <erov> its quake 3 arena.. open source maps
[03:20] <hero> so someone who is using kde... is there a volume up/down shortcut place?
[03:20] <miles> tams: hate life?
[03:21] <tams> tams: ow, c'mon, I love it
[03:21] <miles> dude, im so new to irc right now, i have no clue whats going on
[03:22] <intelikey> miles it is hard to read the inflection in the typing at first isn't it
[03:22] <tams> miles: well, it's always this chaotic but you'll get used to it
[03:22] <miles> hello
[03:22] <miles> woops
[03:23] <miles> sweet
[03:23] <phoenixz> Whenever I press <TAB> in bash while using svk, I get this error: "bash: /usr/bin/svk-completion.pl: No such file or directory"  How do I fix this?
[03:23] <miles> make the file
[03:24] <intelikey> looks like a perl script to me
[03:24] <tams> maybe reinstall the package?
[03:24] <vzduch> quick question: after adding an entry to Grub by hand, is it necessary to run 'update-grub' or something?
[03:24] <intelikey> is  libvcp-dest-svk-perl   installed ?
[03:24] <tams> vzduch: yeah
[03:24] <vzduch> ok
[03:24] <vzduch> sudo?
[03:25] <tams> it helps :)
[03:25] <intelikey> vzduch huh ?   no if you add an entry it's there.
[03:25] <tams> i think he meant editing the .conf
[03:25] <vzduch> no, the menu.lst
[03:26] <intelikey> vzduch yeah it's there.
[03:26] <phoenixz> intelikey, actually, no.. if I were to install SVK from aptget, I would get the very old 1.08 version, and I need 2.01, so I installed it manually with perl.. Now, I will install that package but that will also install the old SVK again.. Is there a way to install libvcp-dest-svk-perl without the svk package it depends on?
[03:26] <intelikey> vzduch you don't need to do anything to activate it
[03:26] <vzduch> ok
[03:26] <intelikey> phoenixz but installing the package along with it will probably solve your probalm
[03:27] <intelikey> problem
[03:27] <intelikey> balm  heh
[03:27] <phoenixz> intelikey, yeah, it would fix it I think.. only I do NOT want to have the old svk 1.08 again, it has a number of problems I can not work with
[03:27] <intelikey> "is there no balm in kubuntu"
[03:28] <phoenixz> intelikey, so could I install a package without its dependancy?
[03:28] <miles> is it better to install nvidia driver from their site or through apt-get
[03:28] <miles> ?
[03:28] <phoenixz> miles, you have to use the restricted-manager to do this actually
[03:28] <intelikey> phoenixz then build that package too.   and  libuuid-data-perl libvcp-perl also i guess
[03:28] <miles> are you guys going to hate on me if i use non-free drivers?
[03:28] <ardchoille> miles: You can do it from the command line
[03:29] <ardchoille> !nvidia | miles
[03:29] <ubotu> miles: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:29] <phoenixz> miles, do NOT try to install the driver using apt-get, it will install a package that leaves a file behind that later on when you do use restricted-manager, you can not install the driver anymore until you remove that file manulally
[03:29] <chaotic> i think i got myself  into a problem
[03:29] <tams> miles: Stallmans going to slaughter you with an axe, but currently his list is very long so no worries
[03:29] <miles> ok good
[03:29] <miles> i hear that guy loves freedom
[03:29] <intelikey> phoenixz if you install without the deps it will totally hose the package manager until you remove it or install the deps.
[03:29] <phoenixz> intelikey, that sounds sweet!
[03:30] <hero> oh great
[03:30] <hero> now i can't use ctrl-alt-arrow to move between desktops
[03:30] <intelikey> phoenixz so build the source like you did with svk
[03:30] <phoenixz> intelikey, is there also a way to disable that <TAB> thing for program options?
[03:30] <miles> my stomach hurts
[03:30] <hero> this is obviously worse than page down not working
[03:30] <intelikey> ummmm  within svk   idk
[03:30] <hero> does anyone know how to fix this?
[03:31] <phoenixz> intelikey, well, this looks like an kubuntu option actually.. svk could never do this
[03:31] <hero> all i did was change the keyboard type
[03:31] <hero> and i changed it back
[03:31] <phoenixz> specially since I type svk <tab> and then it tries to get the svk options..
[03:31] <phoenixz> hero, and then.. ?
[03:31] <chaotic> my computer wont  go back  to 1024  by 768 its stuck at 640  by 480
[03:31] <raylu> so, i understand that ndiswrapper-common's "ndiswrapper" is just a wrapper script to call ndw versions...but how do i get these versions? currently, running ndiswrapper gives me "no versions of ndiswrapper found!"
[03:31] <chaotic> what can i do
[03:31] <hero> phoenixz: and then i can't use the keyboard to move between virtual desktops
[03:31] <intelikey> phoenixz not *ubuntu  but  bash   and there is a #bash if you want to ask there
[03:32] <phoenixz> intelikey, I didnt know that was a bash option.. well, learning something new every day
[03:33] <phoenixz> intelikey, found it, I think.. the apt-get left a file behind in a bash-autocompletion.d dir..
[03:33] <intelikey> ok.  makes sense
[03:34] <phoenixz> hero, thats crap yeah.. do you know what keys exactly don't work?
[03:34] <hero> nah, i got it
[03:34] <hero> page down still screwed though
[03:35] <hero> if i could just find some docs on how to assign-reassign keys
[03:35] <hero> that is, without running a debug tool
[03:35] <phoenixz> intelikey, worsk!
[03:35] <intelikey> works
[03:35] <tams> hero: klineaconfig if I remember correcly but I couldn't get that working
[03:35] <intelikey> never seen a typo before ?
[03:36] <phoenixz> hero, keymapper package maybe?
[03:36] <hero> tams: don't have any program by that name
[03:37] <tams> sorry, klineakconfig
[03:37] <erov> keymapper does exist... ?
[03:37] <erov> http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/utils/keymapper
[03:37] <hero> tams: yeah i don't have that
[03:37] <hero> what is yapps2-runtime?
[03:37] <tams> i't in the standard reps..
[03:38] <tams> *it's in the standard reps
[03:38] <erov> "Yet Another Python Parser System" runtime?
[03:38] <hero> repos, you mean? :D
[03:38] <hero> ok erov
[03:38] <tams> whatever...
[03:38] <erov> i dont know if thats quite it but it's called 'keymapper'
[03:40] <chaotic> is there any way to completely exit xserver
[03:40] <chaotic> and  go to root
[03:40] <intelikey> chaotic sure sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop
[03:40] <intelikey> chaotic login and   sudo -i
[03:42] <hero> ok keymapper is installed but i can't seem to find it anywhere
[03:42] <hero> is it a gui tool?
[03:42] <hero> or cli?
[03:43] <nzk|irssi> I'm about to restart X
[03:43] <nzk|irssi> Wish me luck
[03:43] <intelikey> good luck to me
[03:44] <hero> there's no keymapper manpage, infopage
[03:44] <chaotic> it took me out of  xserver but didnt  give me a prompt
[03:44] <intelikey> chaotic then you have frame buffering issues
[03:45] <chaotic> how do i get out of xserver and get a prompt
[03:45] <intelikey> chaotic alt+ctrl+f1
[03:45] <chaotic> yeah but that doesnt close xserver definetely
[03:45] <raylu> login and use "sudo killall kdm"
[03:45] <intelikey> well put the two togather
[03:45] <chaotic> nvidia   wants me to completely close it
[03:45] <intelikey> or can you not do that ?
[03:46] <raylu> wait a sec chaotic...didn't I mention installing nvidia drivers from the repos?
[03:46] <hero> i guess i'm out of luck on this problem
[03:46] <chaotic> didnt work
[03:46] <tams> hero: what about lineak?
[03:47] <hero> looks like you have to install a bunch of programs and a daemon for that
[03:48] <hero> fsck it
[03:48] <intelikey> tams still kinda sounds like kmix is binding to pgdn   check within kmix menu of config options
[03:48] <tams> correct
[03:48] <wepiha> hero: is this the changing desktop hotkey not working or keyboard layout from before?
[03:48] <intelikey> err sorry hero
[03:48] <tams> intelikey: ?
[03:48] <tams> :)
[03:48] <hero> wepiha: the problem is that the page down key, when used in conjunction with the function key is supposed to turn the volume down. in windows, that is.
[03:48] <intelikey> well your names are the same shortness
[03:49] <intelikey> you're both four letter words
[03:49] <hero> in kde/gnome/xfce, if i hit the pagedown it intermittently turns down the volume, and if i just hit the function key, it turns down the volume
[03:49] <tams> I'm flattered
[03:49] <wepiha> hero: have you tried changing your keyboard layout in system settings?
[03:50] <hero> yes, i have done that
[03:50] <hero> it makes no difference
[03:50] <wepiha> hero: ah
[03:50] <intelikey> hero is that ati chip sets  ?      i know that issue...
[03:50] <hero> it's an intel video card
[03:50] <hero> i don't see what the video card has to do with the keyboard layout
[03:50] <intelikey> no the mobo    is it ati ?
[03:51] <hero> i dunno
[03:51] <intelikey> lshw | less
[03:51] <hero> but when this laptop had windows on it, the function keys were not buggy
[03:51] <wepiha> does anyone know if you need to restart xorg after changing your xkb layout?
[03:51] <intelikey> hero heh i didn't run windows to see if it worked...  first hour  it got  cat /dev/zero > /dev/hda
[03:52] <wepiha> that may be another setp
[03:52] <wepiha> s/setp/step/
[03:52] <intelikey> wepiha i think it can hot swap  but it's not a bad idea to reset X
[03:52] <hero> intelikey: that doesn't help. there aren't any ati products on this machine
[03:53] <hero> so it's not hardware related
[03:53] <intelikey> hero ok    that's not it then
[03:53] <hero> the type of keyboard isn't specified in the kernel config, right?
[03:53] <wepiha> hero: its setup in /etc/init.d/xorg.conf
[03:54] <hero> oh god
[03:54] <hero> this shouldn't be this difficult, heh
[03:54] <intelikey> hey some times your house burns up, and; some times your house burns down.
[03:54] <wepiha> lol @ intelikey
[03:54] <chaotic> yeah  didnt get a prompt after killall kdm
[03:55] <hero> wepiha: xorg.conf isn't stored there on this machine
[03:55] <hero> usr/lib?
[03:55] <wepiha> in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:55] <intelikey> chaotic i told you after you kill ?dm    hit  alt+ctrl+f1
[03:55] <chaotic> i did
[03:55] <intelikey> try f2
[03:56] <hero> it's just pc104 in xorg, wepiha
[03:56] <intelikey> if there is no login prompt in tty1 or tty2 you have frame buffer issues to add to your list of things wrong with the system
[03:56] <wepiha> hero: ok, what brand/model laptop are you using?
[03:56] <hero> dell inspiron 1200
[03:58] <hero> wepiha: i have a feeling there's no code for that keyboard
[03:58] <Zombie> Hello?
[03:59] <tams> Zombie: yes, you can.
[03:59] <Zombie> Hm?
[03:59] <tams> hai
[03:59] <Zombie> I need to speak to some package maintainers.
[03:59] <Zombie> Particularly, with Vavoom.
[04:00] <wepiha> hero: ok. add a new line and comment out the old Driver. change it to Driver "xkb"
[04:00] <Biovore> hero: you tring to get the special keys like the play button to work in X?
[04:00] <Zombie> er
[04:00] <Zombie> Particularly, with PrBoom.
[04:00] <hero> wepiha: it is that driver already
[04:00] <herman> hi
[04:00] <hero> er
[04:00] <hero> xkb, not kb?
[04:00] <hero> er kbd
[04:01] <wepiha> opps typo
[04:01] <hero> i don't want to screw myself out of a working x configuration, ya know
[04:01] <wepiha> cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.working ;)
[04:02] <Zombie> I'm getting a Xorg Lockup under PrBoom
[04:02] <hero> wepiha: so what driver do you want me to use?
[04:02] <intelikey> Zombie  PrBoom ?
[04:02] <Zombie> The Doom Port.
[04:02] <Zombie> Prboom is locking up X
[04:02] <chaotic> this thing is so frustrating
[04:03] <Zombie> (and KDE)
[04:03] <wers> do you think that kde-core is better than Kubuntu?
[04:03] <intelikey> hmmm oh.   ok.
[04:03] <Zombie> I need a maintainer to rebuild a deb for prboom 2.4.7
[04:03] <wepiha> hero: make sure your using kbd under section "InputDevice" where the Indentifier is something like "Keyboard0"
[04:03] <intelikey> wers kubuntu installs kde-core
[04:03] <wers> I mean, vanilla kde
[04:03] <hero> there is no keyboard0
[04:04] <wers> the kde-core without kubuntu packages
[04:04] <hero> are you sure you know what you're doing?
[04:04] <intelikey> wers   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38193
[04:05] <intelikey> wers i'd install kde rather than kde-core  but that's just me.   actually i wouldn't install kde* at all....  seeing that it's not installed
[04:05] <wers> yeah.. I know that already.. I just heard that slackware's kde is better than kubuntu's and that slackware is more of vanilla kde
[04:06] <chaotic> ctnrl alt  f1 then sudo killall  kdm
[04:06] <chaotic> screen  goes black after that
[04:06] <chaotic> no more prompt
[04:06] <wers> I guess, for less-advanced users, kubuntu would be the best choice
[04:06] <chaotic> yeah like me
[04:07] <intelikey> hero there is probably something like     Section "InputDevice"
[04:07] <intelikey>         Identifier      "Generic Keyboard"
[04:07] <intelikey> if i had to guess
[04:07] <vzduch> Zombie: mail Ubuntu MOTU Developers <ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com>
[04:08] <darho> Hola a todos.
[04:09] <chaotic> im searching repos
[04:09] <miles> how do you find the restricted drivers manager in kde?
[04:09] <chaotic> which drive shoulld a geforce4   mx 4000  have
[04:09] <hero> yes, there is
[04:09] <hero> the file is here in front of me
[04:09] <vzduch> miles: Run Command -> restricted-manager
[04:09] <intelikey> miles use the konsole ?
[04:09] <hero> where's a list of drivers?
[04:10] <intelikey> hero did you make a backup of the config ?
[04:10] <hero> of course i will
[04:10] <hero> i'm just not going to do anything until i get more info
[04:10] <vzduch> chaotic: iirc, GF4 MX* is not supported by the current driver, so you'll want nvidia-glx-legacy
[04:10] <intelikey> hero the list is displayed for you to choose from if you      sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg
[04:11] <redshadowhero> could anyone help me set up a printer?
[04:11] <hero> what does the -plow switch mean?
[04:11] <intelikey> mean p low
[04:12] <intelikey> as opposed to p high
[04:12] <manowar> p=priority
[04:12] <vzduch> the opposite of -phigh, I guess.. CAUTION: this might mess up your keyboard configuration if you use anything other than en_US
[04:12] <hero> yeah, i'm not going to touch the file
[04:12] <hero> if someone could help me find docs on this, maybe
[04:12] <hero> but i'm not going to just screw with it
[04:13] <wepiha> hero: look in /etc/X11/xkb/rules/xorg.lst
[04:13] <hero> thank you
[04:13] <miles> xorg is mad crazy
[04:13] <tams> redshadowhero: ask the actual question, it draws more attention
[04:13] <intelikey> simple as XFree86 imo
[04:13] <miles> i dont like xfree86, not sure why
[04:14] <hero> yeah, there's no driver for this inspiron
[04:14] <hero> just the 6xxx/8xxx models
[04:14] <hero> maybe they are similar, but there is no way to know
[04:14] <chaotic> how  do i know whats my identifier
[04:15] <intelikey> test it
[04:15] <chaotic> how
[04:15] <redshadowhero> alright, I'm trying to set up a xerox workcentre m940 so that the scanner and printer work
[04:15] <wepiha> its a good change its a nearer match than pc104 though
[04:15] <hero> hm
[04:15] <wers> guys, synce-kde does not work in feisty but it works in edgy.. are there feisty packages that I can edit to make synce-kde work?
[04:16] <wers> synce-kde is one of the most important apps for me.. I tend to use gnome because of gnome's synce
[04:16] <starn> how do i find out what monitor i use by command line?
[04:16] <tams> redshadowhero: http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting/Database/XeroxFAQ
[04:16] <starn> allso why when i update kubuntu it makes a nother os in boot menu with 16 at end and not 15
[04:16] <miles> question -- i thought you only had to restart linux after you recompiled the kernel...how come restricted-manager is making me restart after installing nvidia driver?  whats up with that?
[04:17] <starn> !nvidia
[04:17] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:17] <starn> woot
[04:17] <redshadowhero> tams: thanks, I'll have a read.
[04:17] <intelikey> starn updated the kernel
[04:17] <wepiha> miles: because your xorg driver needs to be recompiled to match your kernel revision
[04:17] <starn> lol i wanted to read that to
[04:17] <starn> ohh
[04:17] <starn> was testing to see if command would work :D
[04:17] <hero> funny how the drivers in that file *closely* match the drivers in kde's layout choices, but the inspiron one is not in the kde layout choices
[04:18] <miles> !nvidia
[04:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:18] <miles> o that is sick
[04:18] <hero> gosh, i'm just real squeamish about messing with xorg.conf
[04:18] <miles> sorry, first time in irc <-------------
[04:18] <miles> one more question -- are you guys all using konversation?
[04:18] <intelikey> miles nope
[04:18] <wepiha> hero: its listed near laptop in system settings
[04:18] <sayers> Kubuntu supports dual core right?
[04:18] <starn> how do i see what monitor is connected to pc when it dosnt say on the monitor it self
[04:18] <starn> yes
[04:19] <starn> i beleave so
[04:19] <starn> i run dual
[04:19] <starn> ...
[04:19] <sayers> Could've said all that in one line :)
[04:19] <miles> linux supports as many cores as u can physically build into ur pc
[04:19] <NickPresta> miles, I'm using XChat
[04:19] <miles> xchat > konversation??
[04:20] <wepiha> !imho
[04:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about imho - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:20] <hero> wepiha: when you hit apply on that, does it really apply? or do i have to restart x?
[04:20] <sayers> miles: not really :s, in some ways yes , but Konversation runs better in KDE and feels better
[04:20] <hero> because i don't see any difference
[04:20] <miles> like... make -j2 will compile with 2 cores, if u have them
[04:20] <miles> oic
[04:20] <miles> yea, konversation is aight, its the only irc client ive ever used
[04:20] <wepiha> hero: well as intelikey put it, its not a bad idea to restart X
[04:20] <hero> miles: try the other programs, see what is right for YOU
[04:21] <miles> thanks for the advice!
[04:21] <hero> wepiha: yeah, but it might not work at that point. ugh.
[04:21] <intelikey> miles irssi  bitchx  xchat  kirc kvirx and many other irc clients
[04:21] <hero> can you still restart the xserver with ctrl alt backspace?
[04:21] <sayers> Why can I not play Amarok's Radio Stations it provides?
[04:21] <intelikey> ooops kvirv
[04:21] <intelikey> ooops kvirc
[04:21] <wepiha> hero: its a kde setting at that point!
[04:22] <intelikey> i'll get that right in a minute
[04:22] <hero> sayers: try #amarok
[04:22] <hero> wepiha: what do you mean?
[04:22] <Biovore> sayers: I think its because kubuntus defaults are out of date and those stations are alive anymore are at a different address/port
[04:22] <hero> kde writes to xorg.conf?
[04:22] <wepiha> hero: when you changed the setting in system settings, this is a per-user setting and not system-wide.
[04:22] <hero> wepiha: well, it doesn't make any difference. page down is still screwed up
[04:23] <intelikey> hero did you reset X ?
[04:23] <intelikey> hero changes in xorg.conf only affect new xsessions
[04:24] <hero> intelikey: well, if i did that, i would have /quit here
[04:24] <hero> fine
[04:24] <wepiha> ha good luck ;)
[04:24] <hero> i almost don't even care, except it's so stressful
[04:24] <intelikey> hero i didn't ask if you were talking on the same box you were working on...
[04:25] <miles> hello?
[04:25] <starn> how do i find out wich video card i use?
[04:25] <wepiha> hero: hmm that sucks to be stressed...
[04:25] <intelikey> so no way to know if you reset X or not except ask.
[04:25] <Kpr> How can I disable alt+ click move? I tried window behavior and guess what? NO CIGAR
[04:25] <hero> intelikey: alright, fair enough. you never answered why you hang out in kubuntu if you don't even use kde.
[04:25] <starn> i know its nvidia 6150 but i dont know if its 6150 le.. or not
[04:25] <miles> laff
[04:25] <miles> is anyone here running a kde4 build?
[04:25] <chaotic> thank u guys so much
[04:26] <intelikey> hero i'll answer that with a question.   are you sjuesting that i shouldn't ?
[04:26] <NickPresta> hero, perhaps he can offer his help to things that aren't disto. specific?
[04:26] <chaotic> that xorg config did it for u
[04:26] <hero> NickPresta: the channel is called kubuntu.
[04:26] <chaotic> for me
[04:26] <Syd> would anybody know how to downgrade to 6.10 after a partially failed 7.04 upgrade?
[04:26] <hero> nevermind
[04:26] <Syd> I'm having troubles doing it with apt-get
[04:26] <chaotic> im  at 1280 by 1024
[04:26] <Syd> it seems to be satisfied by all the packages already present
[04:26] <NickPresta> hero, so? People that use Debian with XFCE can still help in Kubuntu, for example. Perhaps he likes this channel and the people here?
[04:26] <Kpr> ?
[04:26] <chaotic> 4 hrs of troubleshooting finally payed off
[04:27] <draik> How do I make all of the KDE apps default instead of those from GNOME?
[04:27] <intelikey> NickPresta yeah maybe that's it...
[04:27] <NickPresta> lol
[04:27] <intelikey> err good answer
[04:27] <draik> chaotic: After the 1st hour, it better be worth it or for a VERY good cause
[04:27] <NickPresta> hey, I don't know why you're here but I'm happy to have you here. =)
[04:28] <hero> NickPresta: well, i've asked gnome-related questions in here and was asked to go to #ubuntu or #gnome. it's obvious that the *community* here wants some uniformity.  also, it's pretty frustrating when you have a kde-specific question and the person that answers says "try this, but i don't know because i don't use kde"
[04:29] <miles> how do u do that
[04:29] <intelikey> NickPresta you don't want to know why i'm here.
[04:29] <miles> pwn
[04:29] <Kpr> How can I disable alt+ click move? I tried window behavior and guess what? NO CIGAR
[04:29] <Syd> how comes the link to the know problems page in the topic brings to a site with a certificate mismatch?
[04:29] <intelikey> /me
[04:30] <NickPresta> hero, without getting into a war with you, I'll just say that this channel and most support channels are filled with people who offer their time and effort free-of-charge because they like to contribute back to a community (sometimes general communities, sometimes specific communities). You don't have to listen to anyone's answers here and as long as people aren't giving you incorrect answers, I see no probl
[04:30] <NickPresta> em with general help
[04:30] <intelikey> Kpr hmmm that's an x thang  not a kde thang    i've never tried to disable it, cause it's really useful sometimes
[04:31] <intelikey> Kpr are you sure you want to disable it ?
[04:31] <Kpr> It's pretty annoying when I'm using wine programs
[04:31] <miles> i am trying to look for 1280 by 1280 image size at google
[04:32] <Kpr> So yes
[04:32] <intelikey> ah wine.   wine might be able to over ride it specificly
[04:33] <Kpr> How might I go around doing that? Any points in the right direction would be appreciated
[04:33] <Kpr> I have about a thousand bugs now to solve specifically
[04:33] <wepiha> hero: ctrl-alt-backspace'd your way to success?
[04:34] <elknof3> hi every body
[04:34] <NickPresta> hello
[04:34] <miles> hello
[04:34] <elknof3> i have a question 4 u
[04:34] <miles> irc r0x!
[04:34] <miles> ok go on
[04:34] <NickPresta> !ask | elknof3
[04:34] <ubotu> elknof3: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:34] <elknof3> what works better and faster aiglx or xgl??
[04:35] <Syd> hi all
[04:36] <NickPresta> elknof3, which drivers do you use?
[04:36] <miles> question -- how come beryl kills vista aero
[04:36] <miles> ?
[04:36] <wers> what version of ubuntu mepis based on?
[04:37] <Syd> you mean it kills it because it is best?
[04:37] <NickPresta> miles, what do you mean?
[04:37] <Biovore> miles: It does alot more then aero
[04:37] <miles> kills = its better then
[04:37] <elknof3> wers: 6.06  dapper drake
[04:37] <miles> i got vista on my work laptop...weaksauce
[04:37] <elknof3> NickPresta: i810
[04:37] <elknof3> intel
[04:38] <Syd> it would have been fun if installing beryl on a linux on a pc with vista around made aero stop working...
[04:38] <wers> okay thanks
[04:38] <elknof3> but im working whit aiglx and beryl
[04:38] <elknof3> it works perfectly
[04:39] <wers> is 6.5 the latest version of mepis?
[04:39] <tams> bye
[04:39] <elknof3> wers: i ve downloaded yesterday 6.5
[04:40] <vzduch> good night folks :)
[04:40] <elknof3> i think its the laste version
[04:40] <elknof3> sorry for my english
[04:40] <wers> do you think mepis is somewhat better than kubuntu?
[04:40] <elknof3> its just than is not my native language
[04:40] <wers> I am a kubuntu user but synce-kde does not work with feisty so I'm thinking of trying another distro
[04:41] <elknof3> wers: i dont know i hevent istalled jet
[04:41] <miles> xubuntu is aight
[04:41] <elknof3> wers: im working whit kubuntu 7.04 feisty
[04:41] <NickPresta> miles, I believe it is a matter of opinion but if I had to pick one reason, I would probably pin Beryl/Compiz/Compiz-Fusion's success on it's open-source philosophy that anyone can write plugins and contribute to changes, etc. I find this helps rapid development more than closing yourself off to the world. What do I know? I don't own a company, let alone Microsoft and I haven't written anything like Compiz.
[04:41] <NickPresta> ;)
[04:42] <miles> i can tell you thought about that one
[04:42] <miles> i feel that beryl really does increase productivity..aero just kinda looks cool
[04:42] <miles> i never find myself using aero features
[04:43] <NickPresta> Well, I cannot live without the 'transparent-window when your mouse moves onto another window behind it' feature. That and the mini-window display that shows everything on my virtual desktop really helps.
[04:44] <miles> i think the cube and the expose-like feature help the most
[04:45] <theea> helo there
[04:45] <pimpster_mcgee> hi
[04:46] <theea> question do you know a software that can use yahoo mess features and to use yahoo acounts?
[04:47] <miles> gaim
[04:47] <miles> kopete
[04:47] <theea> kopete offer only webcam not also voice
[04:47] <theea> and skype ofers only voice
[04:48] <NickPresta> Pidgin lacks video conferencing and voice chat, sadly. However, you can still use your Yahoo account. You may consider a Skype + Kopete solution..
[04:49] <theea> so i should search after pidgin soft?
[04:49] <miles> skype for linux doesnt do video conf?
[04:49] <starn> how do i change my device's
[04:49] <theea> skype +kopete i use now but is silly
[04:49] <theea> no miles
[04:49] <starn> like in ubuntus gnome's devices manager thingy
[04:50] <miles> interesting...
[04:50] <NickPresta> theea, I agree that it is a little silly but it's the only solution available at this time, IIRC
[04:50] <theea> ok thanks
[04:51] <starn> better ye after installing gnomes device manger how do i open it for it dose not appare in menu
[04:52] <K-Ryan> Hi everyone, I'm on my laptop and I'm having trouble with sound.
[04:52] <K-Ryan> I've checked the stuff in alsamixer, I've even made sure that the sound card is enabled.
[04:52] <miles> type "lspci" in konsole
[04:52] <K-Ryan> The thing is, when I was running Fluxbuntu, sound worked perfectly.
[04:53] <K-Ryan> 0000:00:08.0 Multimedia audio controller: ESS Technology ES1978 Maestro 2E (rev 10)
[04:53] <K-Ryan> But now in Kubuntu, it refuses to play.
[04:53] <K-Ryan> Like Amarok and XMMS "play" the file
[04:53] <K-Ryan> But I hear nothing
[04:54] <miles> have you checked to make sure its compatible
[04:54] <miles> with kubuntu?
[04:54] <K-Ryan> Where would I check that?
[04:54] <K-Ryan> And if it's compatible with Fluxbuntu, it should be compatible with all *buntus shouldn't it?
[04:55] <starn> !nvidia
[04:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:56] <starn> how come this is not in menu
[04:56] <starn> System  Administration  Restricted Devices Manager
[04:56] <K-Ryan> Because this is Kubuntu
[04:57] <miles> would google "<<your device name>> <<your ubuntu version..say  7.04>>"
[04:58] <K-Ryan> I'm on 6.06, not that it would really make a difference.
[04:58] <starn> well how would i use an restricted device manger?
[04:58] <starn> for i need to enable..
[04:58] <starn> am on 7..
[04:58] <K-Ryan> starn: I think you can download it from the repos, but I dunno
[04:58] <K-Ryan> 7.04
[04:58] <starn> yea i did
[04:58] <starn> but it well not list in menu
[04:58] <starn> and i dont know how to run
[04:58] <miles> open terminal type "restricted-manager"
[04:58] <K-Ryan> Type the package name into the terminal
[04:58] <starn> and am realy new to linux and currently hyper..
[04:58] <miles> you might need to be root
[04:59] <hitmanWilly> starn: try kdesu restricted-manager in konsole
[04:59] <starn> command not found
[04:59] <K-Ryan> hitmanWilly: You're not experienced with sound issues are you?
[04:59] <starn> maybe i missed type
[04:59] <starn> yea not found
[04:59] <hitmanWilly> K-Ryan: not really, aside from compiling alsa into the kernel :)
[05:00] <K-Ryan> hitmanWilly: My sound won't work in Kubuntu =/
[05:00] <hitmanWilly> K-Ryan: do you know the kernel driver for the card?
[05:00] <hitmanWilly> K-Ryan: oh, wait, its unmuted right?
[05:00] <K-Ryan> hitmanWilly: Nope, but I know it's in here because when I use Fluxbuntu, it works
[05:00] <erov> yeah it should work k-ryan honestly.. dont know what to tell you.. does it bomb out with errors or does it act like it's playing you just hear nothing
[05:01] <K-Ryan> hitmanWilly: Right, just no sound plays
[05:01] <K-Ryan> erov: The latter
[05:01] <hitmanWilly> K-Ryan: you unmuted it in kmix or alsamixer, right?
[05:01] <erov> and you are postive.. on the mixer/mute settings
[05:01] <K-Ryan> Positively
[05:01] <K-Ryan> I've tried unmuting everything that is muted
[05:01] <hitmanWilly> ok, just checking :)
[05:02] <erov> is the "led" that you click to mute.. lit or unlit
[05:02] <starn> found my prob
[05:02] <hitmanWilly> K-Ryan: and your speakers/headphones are plugged in, right?
[05:02] <erov> that can be confusing..
[05:02] <starn> ty guys
[05:02] <erov> hehe
[05:02] <K-Ryan> hitmanWilly: It's a laptop
[05:02] <erov> KMix
[05:02] <hitmanWilly> K-Ryan: k :) just checking everything
[05:03] <K-Ryan> hitmanWilly: I know, I'm just letting you know
[05:03] <hitmanWilly> K-Ryan: try disabling the kde sound system and see if that helps
[05:03] <K-Ryan> hitmanWilly: How so?
[05:04] <hitmanWilly> K-Ryan: it won't affect any apps, just the kde system sounds
[05:04] <miles> did you guys know that  wu-tang is making a new cd?
[05:04] <hitmanWilly> K-Ryan: its in kcontrol
[05:04] <trakinas> hi!
[05:04] <trakinas> where can I find old kubuntu kernels?
[05:04] <K-Ryan> Hi trakinas!
[05:04] <trakinas> 2.6.17, for instance
[05:04] <miles> k-ryan - go to youtube and see if you can get any sound off a video there
[05:04] <miles> i noticed i was able to do that, but i couldnt play a cd
[05:04] <K-Ryan> miles: Don't have flash working >.>
[05:04] <miles> oic
[05:04] <miles> thats ruff
[05:04] <hitmanWilly> K-Ryan: under sound & multimedia
[05:04] <K-Ryan> Yeah, been working on that too
[05:05] <hitmanWilly> K-Ryan: uncheck 'enable sound system'
[05:05] <K-Ryan> I've got a whole lot of nothin'
[05:05] <hitmanWilly> K-Ryan: you applied it right?
[05:05] <K-Ryan> Yep
[05:06] <Biovore> yeah.. alot of comerical apps try to use the old OSS interface.. if the KDE arts thing is running.. it locks up the OSS interface to applications can't access it to play sound..
[05:06] <DaSkreech> trakinas: packages.ubuntu.com
[05:06] <hitmanWilly> sometimes arts likes to grab the sound system for itself
[05:06] <trakinas> I LOST THE GAME! (damn)
[05:06] <DaSkreech> trakinas: So I won?
[05:06] <miles> hey yall
[05:06] <Biovore> well its a problem with alsa/oss emulation.. and the fact most soundcards dont do hardware mixing..
[05:07] <Biovore> creative cards don't have a problem with this locking..
[05:07] <K-Ryan> I don't have the luxury of changing and or buying a new card
[05:07] <K-Ryan> And what's worse, Fluxbuntu won't boot from the Live CD..
[05:07] <hitmanWilly> K-Ryan: ok, pastebin dmesg
[05:08] <trakinas> DaSkreech: thanks!
[05:08] <trakinas> DaSkreech: www.losethegame.com
[05:08] <starn> how do i make kubutu selecte monitor automaticaly?
[05:08] <K-Ryan> hitmanWilly: It's a lot of I/O errors
[05:09] <hitmanWilly> K-Ryan: see if alsa is even initializing, it may have incorrectly id'd the card on install
[05:09] <K-Ryan> hitmanWilly: How?
[05:11] <starn> do i type sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.orig ?
[05:11] <hitmanWilly> K-Ryan: do you have bootsplash setup or are you booting with scrolling text?
[05:12] <K-Ryan> hitmanWilly: Boot splash
[05:12] <hitmanWilly> K-Ryan: as in do you see the pretty kubuntu logo on startup?
[05:13] <K-Ryan> woo, got flash working
[05:13] <K-Ryan> still no sound
[05:13] <hitmanWilly> K-Ryan: one down
[05:13] <K-Ryan> It's a tad laggy watching videos though =/
[05:13] <hitmanWilly> K-Ryan: can you pastebin the output of dmesg?
[05:14] <K-Ryan> Yeah hold on, lemme just plug in my charger..
[05:14] <hitmanWilly> k
[05:16] <K-Ryan> I can't even get the whole thing
[05:16] <K-Ryan> How can I dump it to a file?
[05:16] <hitmanWilly> K-Ryan: dmesg > <name_of_file>
[05:16] <Biovore> dmesg | less
[05:16] <Biovore> to go to a pager..
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> K-Ryan: the > redirects stdout to whatever comes after it
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> K-Ryan: or >> to append to a file
[05:17] <K-Ryan> hitmanWilly: Right
[05:18] <hitmanWilly> K-Ryan: bash 101 :)
[05:18] <K-Ryan> I haven't learned all the tricks to bash
[05:18] <hitmanWilly> K-Ryan: that puts you with about 99% of folks out there :P
[05:18] <K-Ryan> hitmanWilly: Yeah..
[05:19] <K-Ryan> I'm working on python though
[05:19] <DaSkreech> !commands
[05:19] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[05:19] <K-Ryan> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m12ab4dc9
[05:20] <K-Ryan> I was recommended against learning C as my first language
[05:20] <K-Ryan> Or one of the C languages...
[05:20] <K-Ryan> And they said to try python, so python it is
[05:22] <nzk> Hell no
[05:22] <nzk> Python sucks
[05:22] <nzk> It's crap, and it's useless
[05:22] <nzk> Go with Perl at least.
[05:22] <nzk> I "started" with Python. Biggest mistake of my life.
[05:22] <K-Ryan> I heard python was better
[05:22] <nzk> Now that I am learning C I have to unlearn all these stupid habits.
[05:22] <K-Ryan> So obviously it's personal choice
[05:23] <hitmanWilly> nzk: i started on basic...try unlearning THOSE habits sometime :)
[05:23] <starn> !monitor
[05:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about monitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:24] <hitmanWilly> K-Ryan: ok, check if lspci even has it listed
[05:24] <K-Ryan> It does
[05:24] <K-Ryan> 0000:00:08.0 Multimedia audio controller: ESS Technology ES1978 Maestro 2E (rev 10)
[05:24] <starn> ?
[05:24] <nzk> K-Ryan, I heard that the moon is made of cheese, the earth is flat, and that oceans are a conspiracy to make you swim.
[05:25] <K-Ryan> nzk: I've "heard" from you perl is better
[05:25] <K-Ryan> =)
[05:25] <starn> dose lspci allso list monitor?
[05:25] <starn> brand and model?
[05:25] <hitmanWilly> starn: nope, everything on the pci bus
[05:25] <hitmanWilly> starn: should list the vid card, tho :)
[05:25] <starn> how do i view what monitor i have?
[05:25] <K-Ryan> hitmanWilly: At the very end of that, see that logical block error?
[05:25] <hitmanWilly> K-Ryan: that's hd issues
[05:26] <K-Ryan> This is a laptop
[05:26] <K-Ryan> There's nothing above hda
[05:27] <starn> for its not writen on back of monitor
[05:27] <starn> all i know is its dell
[05:27] <K-Ryan> Check in System Settings?
[05:27] <hitmanWilly> K-Ryan: try modprobe -l and see if anything comes up that looks like drivers for the card
[05:27] <K-Ryan> Out of all that I did see a media section
[05:27] <miles> bye
[05:27] <starn> on back i see REV AO3 is that the model its under a small barcode a very small one
[05:28] <K-Ryan> starn: Most likely
[05:28] <hitmanWilly> starn: if it has a serial no., you may be able to google that
[05:28] <starn> ok
[05:29] <jhutchins> starn: Go with VESA/Plug-and-play.
[05:30] <jhutchins> hitmanWilly: Google wouldn't hit _his_ serial number.
[05:30] <starn> what do i do when the monitor and display settings thingy says
[05:30] <jhutchins> hitmanWilly: Wouldn't distinguish it from any other N-digit number.
[05:30] <starn> the module monitor and display could not be loaded
[05:31] <starn> the diagnostics is: possible reason: an error accured during yyour last kde upgrade leaving an orphaned control module   you have old third part modules lying around
[05:31] <jhutchins> starn: You can see what the settings are when it's runnign Windows; or you can just force whatever resolution you want on a generic monitor.
[05:31] <starn> and how would i know if it dose
[05:32] <jhutchins> !fixres | starn
[05:32] <ubotu> starn: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:32] <jhutchins> starn: Read taht.
[05:32] <jhutchins> that even.
[05:32] <jhutchins> I really need a new keyboard.
[05:32] <starn> the site?
[05:32] <redshadowhero> hey, does anyone know where I can find drivers for a printer?
[05:33] <Biovore> what printer?
[05:33] <jhutchins> !cups redshadowhero
[05:33] <jhutchins> !cups | redshadowhero
[05:33] <ubotu> redshadowhero: Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[05:33] <DaSkreech> Brought to you by apple
[05:33] <jhutchins> Computers are such literal beasts.
[05:33] <Biovore> well there machines..
[05:36] <mememe> can anyone tell me how to enable apport?
[05:37] <starn> what was that site agen?
[05:37] <mememe> ....ive got a crashing application and was hoping to send in the crash report from apport
[05:38] <redshadowhero> ubotu: It appears as if my specific printer isn't on any of that list; I'm trying to get the printer (a xerox workcentre m940, by the by) to work, and its additional scanner to work as well.
[05:38] <starn> !monitor
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about monitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:38] <chaotic> dude i gotta tell u guys i enjoy kubuntu 10   times more than windows
[05:38] <erov> !fixres | starn
[05:38] <ubotu> starn: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:38] <starn> thanks!
[05:38] <starn> need to book mark that
[05:38] <DaSkreech> chaotic: Welcome
[05:39] <chaotic> thanks
[05:40] <chaotic> i was kinda surprised when i found out u can run all windows apps and games
[05:40] <DaSkreech> Nearly all
[05:40] <chaotic> with like wine and cedega
[05:40] <jhutchins> starn: It's not guaranteed to have your answer, it's just got more answers than I do.
[05:40] <K-Ryan> There are some kinks
[05:40] <hitmanWilly> chaotic: i would say some...
[05:40] <starn> yea
[05:40] <jhutchins> chaotic: Certainly not all.
[05:40] <K-Ryan> jhutchins: Well I'm sure you can run them all
[05:40] <hitmanWilly> chaotic: wine and cedega don't always work that well
[05:40] <chaotic> yeah i know u get errors here and there
[05:40] <starn> i am trying to figer out how to fix monitor and display thingy soo i can change em!
[05:41] <chaotic> but theres always work arounds
[05:41] <K-Ryan> The success of the program is what's in question...
[05:41] <DaSkreech> K-Ryan: Want to put something of value on that?
[05:41] <jhutchins> chaotic: The more the apps take advantage of glitches, bugs, errors, and back doors, the less likely the app will work, but...
[05:41] <hitmanWilly> jhutchins: which is most every game out there :)
[05:41] <K-Ryan> DaSkreech: No I'm saying that you can run the program, but it working well is not promised
[05:41] <wepiha> how do I start knemo?
[05:41] <K-Ryan> Or even expected
[05:41] <starn> well found my monitor
[05:41] <jhutchins> From some recent crow pie I have eaten, I know that cedega doesn't do much good unless you have an Nvidia card.
[05:41] <starn> DELL E197FP
[05:42] <DaSkreech> I've had games crash out instantly
[05:42] <DaSkreech> But that's beside the point :)
[05:42] <DaSkreech> What's important is that Winamp works
[05:42] <jhutchins> Gfh!&%&$%(#@%^!~!~~!!!!!
[05:42] <jhutchins> Winamp!?!?!
[05:43] <starn> in xorg what do i edit to make res higher?
[05:43] <DaSkreech> :-D
[05:43] <jhutchins> You would run WINAMP on a LINUX system?
[05:43] <jhutchins> starn: You might edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but try krandrtray fist.
[05:43] <DaSkreech> LinAmp?
[05:43] <jhutchins> first.
[05:44] <jhutchins> DaSkreech: AMAROK!
[05:44] <starn> krandtray?
[05:44] <DaSkreech> Doesn't have NSV
[05:44] <jhutchins> Winamp was nice - in the ninetys.
[05:44] <chaotic> oh snap i think  if im not mistaken did an error free ao tinstall
[05:44] <DaSkreech> First app that adds support for nsv I'll highlight and walk behind it with a horn
[05:44] <chaotic> anarchy online
[05:45] <chaotic> been trying to get that all day
[05:45] <starn> well i might need to download it..
[05:45] <jhutchins> I am way too worn out from running a skidloader for 2 hours to deal with this worn out keyboard.
[05:45] <jhutchins> G'Night all.
[05:45] <DaSkreech> Night
[05:45] <chaotic> subuntu sudo some times conflicts with  wines
[05:46] <starn> adept manager aint loading
[05:46] <jhutchins> DaSkreech: mplayer or vlc dude.
[05:46] <DaSkreech> they have nsv support
[05:46] <DaSkreech> ?
[05:46] <starn> type this? apt-get install krandrtray
[05:46] <DaSkreech> Sweet :0
[05:47] <starn> nvm
[05:47] <starn> but dint find it
[05:47] <DaSkreech> now I just need an aggregator
[05:47] <DaSkreech> !info kranrtray
[05:47] <ubotu> Package kranrtray does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:47] <DaSkreech> !info krandrtray
[05:47] <ubotu> Package krandrtray does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:48] <starn> how come every thing i try to run dosnt?
[05:48] <starn> that uses kde
[05:49] <starn> like krandrtray and apedt manager w.e
[05:49] <starn> nvm fixed
[05:49] <starn> just some thing about it it wasnt runing
[05:49] <starn> maybe i needed to log in as root
[05:49] <starn> unno
[05:51] <starn> oh neat i have krandrtray on here already
[05:51] <wepiha> does anyone know of a media sharing tool for Linux that can stream to an xbox360?
[05:51] <starn> wonder if it well start.
[05:53] <chaotic> hey guys how do u install programs with makefiles like winrar
[05:54] <chaotic> ark  for somereason  doesnt recognize r01r02r03
[05:54] <Biovore> well rar is close source.. so there is no make file for it..
[05:55] <chaotic> yeah   theres a make  file    in it
[05:55] <erov> ark wont open r01 r00 .. only rar and then the others in succession
[05:55] <erov> if it still wont open it.. use winrar in wine..
[05:55] <DaSkreech> !info unrar
[05:55] <DaSkreech> !info unrar-free
[05:55] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.7.3-1 (feisty), package size 94 kB, installed size 228 kB
[05:55] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[05:56] <Biovore> you tring to extract multipul file archive?
[05:56] <erov> the unrar-free sometimes doesnt work.. i dont know why
[05:56] <erov> very particular archives
[05:56] <DaSkreech> cause it's a version behind
[05:56] <Biovore> encryption sometimes breaks things..
[05:57] <chaotic> tellsmmmme the utility  unrar is not in ur PATH
[05:57] <K-Ryan> I hate this -.-
[05:57] <K-Ryan> My sound doesn't work >.>
[05:57] <nzk> Hmm
[05:57] <nzk> Give it a raise, maybe it will get back to work
[05:57] <K-Ryan> It's on vacation
[05:58] <K-Ryan> I'm not giving it a raise
[05:58] <chaotic> what should i do to unrar  these
[05:58] <chaotic> is there another program
[05:58] <K-Ryan> !rar
[05:58] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[05:58] <K-Ryan> !info unrar-free
[05:59] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[05:59] <starn> what do i edit in xorg to config res?
[05:59] <starn> i want 1280x1024
[05:59] <Linux_Galore> there used to be a free solution called notrar
[06:03] <chaotic> i installed unrar  free   where would be at
[06:03] <wepiha> chaotic: ark should be able to handle rar files now
[06:03] <chaotic> same thing
[06:04] <wepiha> have you installed unrar and unrar-free?
[06:04] <wepiha> and / or
[06:05] <chaotic> i installed unrar free
[06:06] <ShockValue> can someone tell me what the line is supposed to look like at: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Feisty_with_nVidia#Kubuntu
[06:06] <wepiha> hmm depending on the rar-file version, unrar-free looks to provide extract for files less than version 3.0
[06:06] <ShockValue> the one that starts :  echo deb "http....." feisty main
[06:06] <ShockValue> the auto-link feature screwed up the synta
[06:10] <yasir> hi, I'm having trouble installing themes on Ubuntu Fiesty fawn , can some one give me a step by step installation guide?
[06:10] <miles> hello?
[06:10] <yasir> hi
[06:10] <miles> hey can i say something real noob real quick?
[06:10] <Daisuke-Ido> you can't possibly say anything we haven't heard before :P
[06:11] <miles> "fck windoze!"
[06:11] <Daisuke-Ido> go right ahead
[06:11] <miles> was that pretty good?
[06:11] <Daisuke-Ido> okay, that was inappropriate, but i understand the sentiment
[06:11] <miles> sry
[06:11] <miles> done with that
[06:11] <miles> does anyone here play ET?
[06:13] <edson> somebody knows an alternator of wallpapers?
[06:13] <ShockValue> ok, how about this newb question.. what /should/ this line look like?    the beryl wiki screwed up the syntax:  echo "deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org feisty main
[06:13] <ShockValue> alternator?  like acdc?
[06:13] <ShockValue> or like deviantart.com ? :)
[06:13] <miles> whoa what?
[06:13] <yasir> can someone tell me hoew to install the domino theme?
[06:13] <miles> ET?
[06:14] <miles> laff
[06:14] <ShockValue> the 2600 arari game ET was awesome~! :)
[06:14] <edson> ShockValue, alternator wallpaper random...
[06:14] <Daisuke-Ido> ShockValue
[06:14] <Daisuke-Ido> are you trying to just install regular old beryl?
[06:14] <hitmanWilly> miles: you mean evercrack? (EQ)
[06:14] <ShockValue> Daisuke-Ido: i dunno, ive just been reading up on some of the fancy new window graphics stuff.. is beryl what I want?
[06:15] <Daisuke-Ido> probably
[06:15] <Daisuke-Ido> are you running feisty?
[06:15] <ShockValue> i want beryl in KDE.. yes feisty
[06:15] <Daisuke-Ido> graphics carD?
[06:15] <ShockValue> nvidia 7600gs
[06:15] <Daisuke-Ido> ah, same as mine :D
[06:15] <hitmanWilly> ShockValue: actually, beryl is dead, compiz-fusion is probably what you want :)
[06:15] <ShockValue> oh well then, i dont want to bother trying out a dead fork.
[06:16] <Daisuke-Ido> hitmanWilly: i'm sticking with beryl until compiz-fusion works
[06:16] <hitmanWilly> :P
[06:16] <miles> no Enemy Territory RTCW
[06:16] <Daisuke-Ido> cube enabled?  yes.  rotation enabled?  yes.  can i use either of these?  no!
[06:16] <miles> i have never used compiz, is it sick?
[06:16] <ShockValue> i just re-installed fiesty this evening.. i fought with my ATI card for a week and figured i'd slap in this nvidia card before i broke my computer (with my boot)
[06:16] <hitmanWilly> miles: ive got the new one on reserve at gamestop :)
[06:17] <miles> thats cool..but i mean, do you have it on linux?...basically, does anyone know if the ET package exists in the ubuntu repos?
[06:17] <miles> straight up
[06:17] <miles> i cant find a real answer
[06:17] <hitmanWilly> miles: it was released free, so probably
[06:19] <K-Ryan> miles: I don't know if they're in the repos, but I know you can get it for linux
[06:19] <miles> ok thank you
[06:19] <hitmanWilly> miles: its in the gentoo repos, so it probably is in the ubuntu ones :)
[06:19] <miles> but i already knew that :-{P
[06:19] <miles> o
[06:20] <miles> so, do yall wanna scrim sometime...?
[06:20] <miles> ...?
[06:20] <miles> :(
[06:21] <hitmanWilly> miles: sorry, more of a UT player lately :)
[06:21] <Biovore> same
[06:21] <Biovore> I think we get UT editor now as well :-)
[06:22] <miles> UT...is it open?
[06:22] <Biovore> Unreal Tournamate 2k4
[06:22] <hitmanWilly> miles: no, but it does have a nix client, on the install cd even :)
[06:22] <miles> is it worth it?
[06:23] <miles> cuz i love css
[06:23] <miles> love it
[06:23] <hitmanWilly> miles: absolutely
[06:23] <Biovore> UT has a native port for linux
[06:23] <K-Ryan> Yeah, it was fun
[06:23] <miles> laff out loud
[06:23] <raylu> wow...this kubuntu install is taking forever...
[06:23] <K-Ryan> Even though it's '07
[06:23] <miles> i know it does, but is it better then css?
[06:23] <K-Ryan> I loved playing the demo
[06:23] <Biovore> I play TAM.. its like CSS but with ut weapons..
[06:23] <miles> and remember, i love css
[06:23] <raylu> cs:s < *
[06:23] <K-Ryan> miles: They're different
[06:23] <raylu> please don't call it css :P
[06:23] <Biovore> yeah.. its quake with dodging..
[06:23] <miles> steam needs to get on it
[06:23] <hitmanWilly> UT is FAST...
[06:24] <raylu> no! steam is terrible
[06:24] <K-Ryan> 2k4 isn't as fast
[06:24] <raylu> the less games that get steam-ified, the better
[06:24] <K-Ryan> In the larger levels anyway
[06:24] <Biovore> value actualy has the ablility to port to linux.. they just don't want to..
[06:24] <miles> thats why im sayin they need to get on it
[06:24] <hitmanWilly> well, not that fast, but its old-school DM fast
[06:24] <K-Ryan> Biovore: Of course they CAN
[06:24] <miles> they love bill gates too much
[06:25] <Biovore> there engine can do OpenGL on PS3..  not much work is needed..
[06:25] <miles> OpenGL on PS3?
[06:25] <Biovore> well I think it come back to support..
[06:25] <Biovore> yeah.. PS3 is all opengl
[06:25] <miles> wow
[06:25] <hitmanWilly> miles: that's the rendering engine ps3 uses
[06:25] <miles> and we could run the same engine on linux..right?
[06:26] <miles> so if your hardware was fast enough...we could run ps3 off our box?
[06:26] <Biovore> everyone dose OpenGL..  Microsoft has a interface layer called Direct X that uses the same hardware calls, just under a different name.. (Direct is more updated then OpenGL.. )
[06:26] <miles> o yea....wait now i remember, ps3 actually has some kind of dist. on it
[06:26] <hitmanWilly> miles: not exactly the same but directx vs opengl is what keeps most games from being ported
[06:26] <Biovore> yeah.. you can install linux on it..
[06:26] <miles> loves it
[06:28] <khaije1bb> where does sdl come into all this?
[06:28] <miles> sdl?
[06:28] <hitmanWilly> sdl is just software rendering
[06:29] <hitmanWilly> IIRC
[06:29] <Biovore> sdl can do OpenGL
[06:29] <Biovore> UT2k4 is done in it..
[06:29] <miles> wtf
[06:29] <surgy> how do i fix this?: /usr/lib/transgaming_cedega/gddb.py:24: RuntimeWarning: Python C API version mismatch for module gddb_parser: This Python has API version 1013, module gddb_parser has version 1012.
[06:29] <hitmanWilly> !sdl
[06:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sdl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:29] <Biovore> surgy: complain to transgamming..
[06:29] <miles> !enemy territory
[06:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about enemy territory - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:29] <miles> !et
[06:29] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[06:30] <khaije1bb> I thought it was a simplified platform-independent api for opengl...?
[06:30] <hitmanWilly> !find enemy-territory
[06:30] <Biovore> surgy: probably need python 4 or 5 (there are 2 version out there)
[06:30] <ubotu> Package/file enemy-territory does not exist in feisty
[06:30] <miles> hates it!
[06:30] <hitmanWilly> !find et
[06:30] <ubotu> Found: aspell-et, console-setup, contact-lookup-applet, cricket, deskbar-applet (and 913 others)
[06:30] <miles> see i already checked that
[06:30] <miles> just sometimes, it is under a name i wouldnt  think of
[06:30] <miles> like the java 6 jdk
[06:30] <hitmanWilly> miles: adept search it :)
[06:30] <miles> o
[06:30] <miles> sun-java-jdk6
[06:31] <miles> or somethin crazy
[06:31] <Daisuke-Ido> not there
[06:31] <miles> sorry guys, this is my first day using irc
[06:31] <Daisuke-Ido> don't stress it
[06:31] <miles> this is so crazy!
[06:31] <Daisuke-Ido> i don't think ET is in the repos though
[06:31] <Daisuke-Ido> maybe straight from iD?
[06:31] <miles> yea ive come to that conclusion also
[06:31] <hitmanWilly> there's probably a deb out there for it somewhere
[06:31] <miles> no its cool, i got it, ive installed it before, just not from an ubunto reps
[06:32] <surgy> Biovore: can i ju8st installl thew package "python-all" to fix this?
[06:32] <Kpr> I like my SPICY SPICY chicken
[06:32] <miles> u silly!
[06:32] <Biovore> yeah.. most comerical software you have to use there installer
[06:32] <miles> et is sick tho
[06:32] <miles> i used to play that in school..smoked all my class mates
[06:32] <hitmanWilly> miles: ive actually never tried, will have to give it a go
[06:33] <miles> its like bf2 kind of
[06:33] <Kpr> ET?
[06:33] <Kpr> ..Oh that ain't workin o here
[06:33] <Kpr> *on
[06:33] <miles> er..bf2 is kind of like et
[06:33] <miles> no ive seen it!
[06:33] <Kpr> ?
[06:33] <K-Ryan> Anyone have any recommendations on what to do when your sound doesn't work?
[06:33] <Kpr> That's what I mean
[06:33] <K-Ryan> Media is played, but I can't hear it
[06:33] <miles> !alien
[06:33] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[06:34] <K-Ryan> OH!
[06:34] <Kpr> Oh, your sound just doesn't work, Ryan?
[06:34] <K-Ryan> I GET IT NOW!
[06:34] <K-Ryan> !botsnack
[06:34] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[06:34] <K-Ryan> Haha
[06:34] <miles> your welcome k-ryan
[06:34] <K-Ryan> Kpr: Correct
[06:34] <K-Ryan> Thanks miles, that was half the equation
[06:34] <miles> haha
[06:34] <miles> i was just messing
[06:35] <Kpr> Hmm...well
[06:35] <Kpr> I'm off to do something...
[06:35] <Kpr> Who knows what
[06:35] <miles> o rly?
[06:35] <K-Ryan> !sound
[06:35] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:35] <miles> !mp3
[06:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:35] <miles> this is so crazy
[06:35] <miles> whoa
[06:35] <miles> i just typed
[06:35] <K-Ryan> Hmm?
[06:36] <miles> "/clear"
[06:36] <K-Ryan> And?
[06:36] <miles> that is so useful!
[06:36] <hitmanWilly> lol
[06:36] <miles> seriously, first time in IRC..
[06:36] <K-Ryan> Yeah >.>
[06:36] <miles> !?
[06:36] <miles> how do u do that
[06:37] <hitmanWilly> miles: the /me tag
[06:37] <miles> clear
[06:37] <miles> o man
[06:37] <miles> "/me"?
[06:38] <hitmanWilly> miles: try it :)
[06:39] <miles> doesnt work
[06:39] <miles> o
[06:39] <miles> there we go
[06:39] <hitmanWilly> miles: everything in irc can be done with / cmds
[06:39] <jbbarnes> Can someone help me with setting passwords in Kubuntu 7.04?
[06:39] <miles> yea i somehow knew that
[06:39] <miles> it just..makes sense
[06:40] <hitmanWilly> miles: i use irssi so ive kinda had to learn them :)
[06:40] <hitmanWilly> jbbarnes: what passwords are you trying to set, your current user?
[06:41] <jbbarnes> Has anyone else had problems with the graphical "System Settings" app not setting passwords correctly?
[06:41] <hitmanWilly> jbbarnes: just use passwd in konsole
[06:42] <jbbarnes> Yes, I can get that to work fine. I want to set this up so a client can administer it. It would be nice to get the GUI app working.
[06:42] <jbbarnes> The passwd definitely works.
[06:42] <miles> im not sure but...
[06:42] <miles> !qt
[06:42] <ubotu> Qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt applications
[06:42] <jbbarnes> He's capable, but not good on the command line.
[06:43] <miles> you know..one time at my job, i was researching something, and i called TrollTech, the people who make QT
[06:43] <hitmanWilly> jbbarnes: set up a shortcut to run passwd for him :)
[06:43] <miles> i was so honored
[06:44] <jbbarnes> hitmanWilly: To answer your question, I can create users in the gui, but it will not successfully set a password. So the new user cannot login until I run sudo passwd username.
[06:44] <hitmanWilly> jbbarnes: seriously tho, what does the graphical tool screw up?
[06:44] <jbbarnes> It just won't set passwords successfully.
[06:44] <hitmanWilly> jbbarnes: are you running in admin mode?
[06:44] <hitmanWilly> jbbarnes: oh, nm, it wouldn't add users if you weren't :P
[06:45] <jbbarnes> I am logged in as "kubunto" then start the "System Settings" app, then click the "Administrator" button before creating users.
[06:45] <miles> hey i know
[06:45] <miles> jbb: i got your solution
[06:45] <jbbarnes> Miles, Really?
[06:45] <miles> i think
[06:45] <hitmanWilly> jbbarnes: you could try running kdesu kcontrol
[06:45] <jbbarnes> Let me try...
[06:46] <miles> write a small qt based app, place in /usr/bin, and have a script make a new user, and they must run that program at login for first time
[06:46] <miles> or is that plain non-sense?
[06:46] <miles> !/
[06:47] <hitmanWilly> miles: no, makes sense, but quite a few people aren't adept at coding :)
[06:47] <miles> o
[06:47] <miles> see..i always think about things like that.  I dont know anyone that knows anything about linux, so i never know if thats really how its done
[06:47] <jbbarnes> Looks like it will let me change the current user's password. Looking for a place to add/modify users.
[06:47] <hitmanWilly> miles: however, a bash script could do the same thing, and those are much easier to write
[06:47] <surgy> what will cause this error:?
[06:47] <miles> o yea, but he said gui
[06:47] <surgy> [ERROR]    - Mouse Wheel supported = TRUE
[06:47] <surgy> mmtime pid=6154 tid=6163
[06:47] <surgy> wine: Unhandled exception, starting debugger...
[06:48] <hitmanWilly> surgy: try in #wine, maybe some devs are around :)
[06:49] <hitmanWilly> jbbarnes: ive always found kcontrol to be easier to use than the new system settings app
[06:50] <jbbarnes> hitman, does it allow you to create/modify other users' accounts, or just your own?
[06:51] <hitmanWilly> jbbarnes: actually, i think taht's another app
[06:51] <hitmanWilly> jbbarnes: there is a gui tool for it somewhere tho :)
[06:51] <jbbarnes> Okay, for instance, I just created a new user with webmin, assigning a password. Works fine. Same with the command line tools.
[06:52] <miles> !dd-wrt
[06:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dd-wrt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:52] <miles> dd-wrt is frickin nasty!
[06:52] <jbbarnes> It makes me wonder about the GUI. This is a Windows guy, interested in Linux, and I hate to start off by saying that the add user program doesn't even work.
[06:52] <jbbarnes> Not confidence inspiring....
[06:53] <miles> if the dude already is in love with bill gates, you cant do much
[06:53] <jbbarnes> He's a willing convert, though...
[06:53] <miles> they all are /me looks away in shame
[06:53] <miles> o dang, it didnt work
[06:53] <hitmanWilly> jbbarnes: the power of bash is actually what got me off of windoze
[06:54] <miles> the power of bash, this man is brilliant!
[06:54] <jbbarnes> Yeah, BASH is great.
[06:54] <hitmanWilly> miles: / cmds only work at the beginning of a line
[06:54] <miles> question -- does anyone here develop java on linux?
[06:54] <miles> thank you
[06:54] <miles> that is so sweet
[06:54] <miles> guys, so sorry
[06:55] <hitmanWilly> i hated how redmond seemed to be trying to bury its DOS roots, and when they actually got rid of the true cmd line altogether, i simply gave up on them, among other reasons
[06:56] <jbbarnes> Yeah, it's pretty doggoned hard to automate a GUI
[06:56] <jbbarnes> Nicer to use scripts.
[06:57] <hitmanWilly> jbbarnes: but anyway, usually the graphical tools work reasonably well, it may just be an error somewhere
[06:58] <jbbarnes> That's good to know. I'm actually new to Kubuntu, so I was hoping this was just a fluke.
[06:58] <miles> !flash
[06:58] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[06:58] <jbbarnes> It's running in vmware, and the vmware image came from the Kubuntu site. Maybe I should just make my own and try again.
[06:58] <miles> !gnash
[06:58] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[07:00] <hitmanWilly> jbbarnes: ah, that's probably the issue, vmware images can be buggy
[07:01] <jbbarnes> He wants an ftp server at his office but can't find any good ftp programs for Windows. I told him he could run vsftpd under Linux in a vmware machine, so that's what I was trying to set up.
[07:01] <hitmanWilly> jbbarnes: but the user managment  GUI thing works fine on this end, so it's probably just a local issue
[07:01] <jbbarnes> I'm going to try again, by creating my own vmware machine rather than the one I downloaded.
[07:02] <hitmanWilly> jbbarnes: yeah, you may want to try building your own
[07:03] <jbbarnes> I have to say I really like these debs as opposed to rpms. apt-get is nice.
[07:04] <Nyle> well guys, I gave ubuntu a fair shot didn't like it, debian amd64 here i come
[07:05] <miles> o
[07:05] <HyperCity> !pastebin
[07:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:10] <miles> irc
[07:10] <K-Ryan> So, none of the 288 people here can help me figure out what's wrong with my sound
[07:11] <nzk> K-Ryan, PEBKAC virus
[07:12] <K-Ryan> PEBKAC?
[07:12] <jbbarnes> Yeah, probably PEBKAC
[07:12] <K-Ryan> What's PEBKAC
[07:12] <K-Ryan> And virus?
[07:12] <NickPresta> K-Ryan, problem exists between keyboard and chair
[07:12] <K-Ryan> It hasn't worked since install
[07:12] <NickPresta> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pebkac
[07:12] <K-Ryan> Oh, got it >.>
[07:13] <jbbarnes> What type of sound card?
[07:13] <K-Ryan> I'll get you the lspci line
[07:13] <K-Ryan> But the thing is
[07:13] <K-Ryan> In Fluxbuntu
[07:13] <K-Ryan> It worked fine
[07:13] <jbbarnes> Is that stable yet?
[07:13] <K-Ryan> Yes
[07:13] <jbbarnes> I thought it wasn't officially released yet. Huh.
[07:13] <jbbarnes> Good to hear.
[07:13] <K-Ryan> It won't be
[07:14] <K-Ryan> Not under Canonical anyway
[07:14] <jbbarnes> I thought they said they got into the development cycle late and were going to wait until the next cycle to be in sync.
[07:14] <K-Ryan> They got into Feisty late
[07:14] <uadever> hi everybody
[07:15] <K-Ryan> So they skipped it
[07:15] <K-Ryan> Straight to Gutsy
[07:15] <K-Ryan> Hi there uadever
[07:15] <jbbarnes> Ah.
[07:15] <uadever> I'm looking for help with feisty
[07:15] <K-Ryan> !ask
[07:15] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:15] <uadever> since I upgraded I can't seem to mount and read a ntfs partition on external usb hard disk
[07:16] <K-Ryan> Is it in fstab?
[07:16] <uadever> let me try to find out
[07:16] <hitmanWilly> ok, i need to get some sleep, c y'all later
[07:16] <K-Ryan> Bye hitmanWilly
[07:18] <uadever> K-ryan: would it help if I pasted in here the actual content of my fstab?
[07:19] <K-Ryan> !pastebin | uadever
[07:19] <ubotu> uadever: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:19] <miles> does anyone here know about emulators? for ps1 or ps2?
[07:19] <miles> !emulator
[07:19] <uadever> it's not large
[07:19] <uadever> thing is
[07:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emulator - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:19] <miles> ?
[07:19] <K-Ryan> You would be better off doing that
[07:20] <skollie> miles: do a search in synaptic
[07:21] <K-Ryan> uadever: People tend to complain about pastes in here more than 3 lines
[07:21] <uadever> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29982/
[07:21] <miles> no, i mean does anyone know how they work? is it legal?
[07:21] <jbbarnes> Emulators are legal...
[07:21] <K-Ryan> miles: The legality is questionable
[07:21] <uadever> that's the link I think I should paste
[07:22] <jbbarnes> But you often need ROM images...
[07:22] <K-Ryan> uadever: Yep
[07:22] <jbbarnes> and they are copyrighted.
[07:22] <K-Ryan> jbbarnes: Good point
[07:22] <uadever> phew
[07:22] <K-Ryan> The emulators are legal
[07:22] <K-Ryan> The ROMs are the questionable part
[07:22] <arun> hello people
[07:23] <miles> stallman loves emulators?
[07:23] <jbbarnes> You can emulate just about everything from a TRS-80 to a Playstation. But you have to look for ROMS in questionable areas.
[07:23] <uadever> K-Ryan, before the upgrade, when I plugged the external usb hd, both partitions, fat32 and ntfs would automatically be mounted and opened in konqueror
[07:24] <K-Ryan> What happened to hda2-4?
[07:24] <arun> is there anywhere i can set a keyboard shortcut to minimise all windows? i know i can click on the icon next to the quicklauncher, but is there a keyboard shortcut?
[07:24] <uadever> what would hda2-4 be?
[07:25] <K-Ryan> arun: There's an applet you can put in your taskbar
[07:25] <K-Ryan> And if you click it everything get's minimized
[07:25] <arun> K-Ryan: I know about the applet, I was looking for a keyboard shortcut
[07:25] <K-Ryan> Shortcut to the applet maybe?
[07:25] <miles> you could make an icon file, place it in your Desktop folder, have it perform action to close all windows
[07:25] <miles> yea
[07:26] <arun> miles: keyboard shortcut?
[07:26] <uadever> such a shortcut can't be created with kcontrol?
[07:26] <miles> i meant yea, i was agreeing with k-ryan
[07:26] <uadever> (I only managed to find out about alt+f3 after one week of searching)
[07:28] <uadever> what would hda2-4 have been, I only have a main and a swap partition on this laptop?
[07:28] <uadever> misplaced question mark, sorry
[07:28] <K-Ryan> uadever: Okay, but then why do you have an hda5?
[07:29] <K-Ryan> uadever: It's okay =P
[07:29] <uadever> I have no idea
[07:29] <K-Ryan> You could probably remove the line then
[07:30] <miles> !knoppix
[07:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about knoppix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:30] <miles> what do i type to see all the / commands?
[07:30] <K-Ryan> !distributions
[07:30] <ubotu> Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)
[07:30] <raylu> miles, tab-tab
[07:30] <miles> tab-tab
[07:30] <miles> no
[07:30] <miles> what?
[07:30] <raylu> press tab twice
[07:30] <miles> nothin
[07:30] <raylu> o.0
[07:31] <K-Ryan> lol
[07:31] <miles> i dont get it
[07:31] <raylu> run this command: . /etc/bash_completion
[07:31] <K-Ryan> "display all 1947 entires?"
[07:31] <raylu> then press tab twice in the konsole again
[07:31] <uadever> if I remove the line, do I risk anything?
[07:31] <raylu> (or did you not do it in the console the first time?)
[07:31] <miles> wait what?
[07:31] <K-Ryan> uadever: Just make a backup of the file, just in case
[07:31] <raylu> miles, you want to see everything you can use in the konsole, right?
[07:31] <miles> no, everything i can use in konversation using /
[07:32] <K-Ryan>  /help
[07:32] <miles> o
[07:32] <K-Ryan> Start there
[07:32] <K-Ryan> =P
[07:32] <miles> i was trying /?
[07:32] <viraj> can anyone help me with wifi?
[07:32] <miles> yea i got a solution
[07:32] <viraj> i get message 'no dhcp offers recieved'
[07:32] <miles> what are you using? desktop or laptop?
[07:32] <viraj> laptop
[07:33] <miles> o..i might not be able to help you then.  I just did a brilliant work around for desktop wifi
[07:33] <miles> you could still do it, but it might detract from laptop usability
[07:33] <viraj> i could try!
[07:33] <miles> ok
[07:33] <miles> i assume you already have 1 ap
[07:33] <miles> right?
[07:34] <viraj> i didn't understand (newbie here)
[07:34] <miles> access point?
[07:34] <viraj> yes
[07:34] <uadever> k-ryan, wait a minute, in the line below hda5 it says "swap"
[07:34] <miles> ok, see, i have my access point upstairs, and my wireless pci card in my desktop downstairs
[07:34] <K-Ryan> Yes but the partitions should be hda1 and hda2
[07:34] <K-Ryan> Oh right, you don't have an hda2
[07:34] <K-Ryan> It might just be misnamed, leave it
[07:34] <miles> the card couldnt work under linux, so the work around i did...
[07:34] <K-Ryan> Good call uadever!
[07:35] <arun> is there no way to minimise everything to the desktop with a keyboard shortcut? seems absurd.. i think you can do it with beryl and metacity, but how come you can't set a shortcut using kwin?
[07:35] <miles> i bought another linksys router, i had 2 now, and flashed it with dd-wrt
[07:35] <miles> dd-wrt is able to turn a linksys router into a wireless bridge, so i did that, plugged it in downstairs with my linux box
[07:35] <miles> and now i can even play my ps2 online downstairs
[07:35] <uadever> thing is, I'd like to see and manage, if possible, the options for automounting of filesystems
[07:35] <miles> it can mount samba shares
[07:36] <uadever> to check if somehow ntfs has been taken off the list
[07:37] <miles> dd-wrt can mount samba shares
[07:37] <K-Ryan> uadever: Those are them
[07:37] <Biovore> konqueror can do samba
[07:37] <uadever> from the graphic system settings menu I can't seem to gain root access to the disk&partitions section
[07:37] <Biovore> try smb://<computer_name>
[07:38] <miles> konqueror > firefox?
[07:38] <Biovore> in some cases yes..
[07:38] <miles> in web browsing no
[07:38] <miles> but everything else..yea sure
[07:38] <uadever> if those are them can you tell from what I pasted if ntfs read is enabled
[07:38] <miles> ntfs is read enabled and nothing else
[07:38] <K-Ryan> !ntfs-3g
[07:38] <K-Ryan> !fuse
[07:38] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[07:38] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[07:38] <Biovore> yeah.. write is disabled by default on ntfs
[07:39] <raylu> =\
[07:39] <raylu> i mounted an ntfs drive as
[07:39] <raylu> *with
[07:39] <uadever> thing is, read doesn't work for me
[07:39] <raylu> sudo mount /dev/sda2 sda2
[07:39] <raylu> and it's owned by root :(
[07:39] <raylu> i can't read without using su
[07:39] <uadever> I'm sure that's not my case
[07:40] <uadever> before the upgrade I did not need root to read from the removable hd
[07:40] <evsophomore2009> Hey just wondering...I know its kinda a stupid question...Is Kubuntu able to get Virus's?
[07:40] <dsmith> in short yes
[07:40] <dsmith> kubuntu, meaning Linux
[07:41] <raylu> its not removable
[07:41] <raylu> and it's not automatically mounted either
[07:41] <uadever> the one I'm having troubles is removable
[07:41] <miles> a virus is kind of a broad term
[07:41] <uadever> and upon plugging it I'd see a konqueror dialog asking me what I wanted to be done
[07:41] <miles> dont you think raylu?
[07:41] <evsophomore2009> So is a virus protecter a good option than?
[07:42] <miles> laser mouse crushes an optical mouse any day
[07:42] <Guilty_as_Sin> it may help the people you talk to to more so than it helps you..
[07:42] <uadever> after the upgrade the dialog would still show up, but upon choosing "open in window" I'd get nothing
[07:42] <miles> did you try ctl+alt+del ?
[07:42] <miles> omg rofl!
[07:42] <miles> sorry
[07:42] <miles> guys dont hate me for that
[07:42] <arun> hahaha
[07:43] <uadever> and I would not find it in the /media directory
[07:43] <uadever> where the other partition regularly did show up
[07:43] <evsophomore2009> Any good free virus Protecters with Kubuntu?
[07:43] <miles> avg
[07:43] <K-Ryan> !virus
[07:43] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[07:43] <miles> avg is for linux i beleive
[07:43] <miles> believe
[07:43] <miles> yea
[07:44] <uadever> thing is, on a different computer with ubuntu 6.06 I have no trouble mounting either partition
[07:44] <Guilty_as_Sin> there is a windows avg on cnet
[07:44] <K-Ryan> That's because avg is for Windows
[07:44] <K-Ryan> Dunno if they have a linux client
[07:44] <Guilty_as_Sin> ah'
[07:44] <miles> hey guys i gotta go mug someone for their dreamcast gear
[07:44] <miles> brb
[07:45] <klobster> raylu: man mount, and edit fstabs.
[07:46] <klobster> raylu: from man mount: NTFS "By default, the files are owned by root and not readable by somebody else."
[07:47] <klobster> line 831
[07:47] <raylu> o.0
[07:47] <raylu> there's no way to do it with an option; it must be changed in fstab?
[07:48] <klobster> uid=value, gid=value and umask=value
[07:49] <klobster> line 829, mount manpage; mount options for ntfs
[07:49] <klobster> in other words, no it doesn't need fstabs
[07:52] <raylu> hm...i'm kinda group-retarded
[07:52] <raylu> i would want to set the gid to my user, right?
[07:52] <raylu> and leave it owned by root?
[07:54] <Biovore> raylu: or a group your user is in..
[07:54] <klobster> gid as your users group, yes
[08:05] <raylu> what's  :avah?
[08:05] <raylu> i have eth0:avah and wlan0:avah
[08:07] <crimsun> avahi.
[08:07] <klobster> !avahi
[08:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avahi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:07] <klobster> !info avahi
[08:07] <ubotu> Package avahi does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:07] <crimsun> apt-cache show avahi-autoipd
[08:07] <crimsun> read the Description.
[08:11] <miltos> my usb stick is not recognised anymore when attached to usb port...what can I do?
[08:11] <raylu> anyway to disable it? and what causes feisty to enable it?
[08:11] <raylu> miltos, are you on the original account?
[08:12] <miltos> raylu, original account?
[08:12] <raylu> as in the first feisty account
[08:12] <raylu> if you created another account and are logged into that, you may not have permission to access usb devices
[08:13] <klobster> s/account/user/
[08:13] <miltos> raylu, then i am on the origianl account
[08:15] <miltos> anyone help?
[08:28] <LeandroArgentino> Hello
[08:28] <klobster> olleh
[08:29] <thunderbolt> Fresh install, hehe.
[08:31] <thunderbolt> Anyone here ever use the w3c validator tools?
[08:33] <LeandroArgentino> Help. I ve intalled Kubuntu. Then I've intalled Genome_desktop and I like this.
[08:34] <LeandroArgentino> can I unistall Kde? How
[08:34] <skollie> miltos: is your problem resolved?
[08:34] <LeandroArgentino> (sorry, my English is Dramatic!)
[08:34] <klobster> how do I add a new splash theme?  theme.rc isn't recognized :(
[08:36] <klobster> LeandroArgentino: sudo apt-get remove kubuntu_desktop
[08:43] <[1] raylu> *kubuntu-desktop
[08:43] <[1] raylu> i just used
[08:43] <[1] raylu> sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "2WIRE668"
[08:43] <[1] raylu> and doing iwconfig eth0 again still shows "off/any"
[08:44] <[1] raylu> iwconfig wlan0 essid on tells me invalid argument
[08:47] <miles> ok
[08:47] <miles> so whats new
[08:56] <ksivaji> i got this message when i tried to change resolution "the module for monitor and display cant be loaded" now i cant change resolution what to do ?
[09:14] <eagles0513875> !aptfix
[09:14] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[09:21] <miltos> the usb icon doesn't appear on my desktop when i hook my external hd usb drive...any solutions???
[09:28] <joseph> I have that same problem using KDE miltos but it works fine in Gnome
[09:30] <miles> hello
[09:30] <miles> where my doggs at
[09:30] <miles> woof woof
[09:30] <miles> meow
[09:30] <joseph> Hello miles
[09:30] <miles> sorry im tired
[09:30] <miles> ill talk to yall lata
[09:36] <sx66> How do you get USB devices working under kubuntu, only 1 out of 3 usb(s) mount.
[09:50] <ksivaji> sx66 have you tried manual mount
[09:51] <sx66> how?
[09:52] <ksivaji> sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt
[09:54] <ksivaji> sx66 have you tried ?
[09:56] <sx66> sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt
[09:56] <sx66> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[09:56] <ksivaji> yes
[09:57] <KjellviZ> can someone explain to me the biggest difference between say pclinux os and kubuntu?
[09:57] <KjellviZ> differences*
[09:58] <pag> KjellviZ, different repos, different communities...  iirc they're both debian -based, so to too big differences between them...
[09:58] <ksivaji> sx66   sudo mount udf  /dev/sda /mnt
[09:59] <KjellviZ> pag: ok, cos im currently using pclos, but considering kubuntu instead
[10:00] <thern> i want to remove openoffice (since i never use it anyway), but it depends on language-pack-xx, a meta package.. can i safely remove that one ? (seing other things seemingly depend on it as well..)
[10:00] <KjellviZ> pag: mainly due to community
[10:00] <pag> KjellviZ, great choise :D
[10:01] <KjellviZ> pag: but i see on this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/DellXPSM1710 that feisty doesent support my monitor in the correct resolution
[10:01] <KjellviZ> pag: does that mean out of the box, its possible to fix, or not at all ?
[10:01] <ksivaji> !kubuntu
[10:01] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[10:01] <pag> thern, hmm? I managed to remove OOo without any problems yesterday :-/
[10:01] <ksivaji> !edubuntu
[10:01] <ubotu> Edubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org
[10:02] <thern> well apt says.. the following packages will be removed: etc.. etc.. language-support-en etc etc...
[10:02] <ksivaji> is the any way to  quick reboot
[10:02] <ksivaji> do*
[10:03] <pag> KjellviZ, to be honest I don't know... never used a laptop myself
[10:03] <pag> thern, please pastebin the output of command "sudo apt-get remove openoffice-data"
[10:04] <KjellviZ> pag: ok, im just wondering if that means i should go with Edgy instead
[10:04] <thern> meh.. don't have openoffice-data.. openoffice-core i do have:) will paste that
[10:04] <pag> oh sorry... s/ openoffice-data / openoffice.org-base
[10:04] <aznpridechinese> i don't think linux would be very suited for school, especially elementary/junior/high school. since most of the teachers there don't know jack about computers in the first place.
[10:05] <pag> thern, oh yeah... sorry.. -core that is :D
[10:05] <thern> pag: it's localized output though
[10:05] <pag> thern, I'll try to undestand :)
[10:06] <thern> pag: http://pastebin.com/d1ab7828e
[10:06] <pag> aznpridechinese, we had about 60/40 per cent rate of Windows' and Ubuntus in our school, and we did just fine :)
[10:08] <pag> thern, language-support-xx is just a meta-package, so it can be safely removed..  I'm more worried about thunderbird-locale-en-gb as it shouldn't depend on OOo
[10:10] <thern> pag: don't have thunderbird installed anyway.. maybe the locale just was left behind..
[10:11] <pag> thern, probably yes.. then you shouldn't worry at all :)
[10:15] <Dragon_1212> yo
[10:15] <Dragon_1212> how is everyone doing
[10:16] <trakinas> leaving
[10:16] <trakinas> ired
[10:16] <trakinas> *tired
[10:16] <trakinas> frustrated
[10:16] <Dragon_1212> lol
[10:16] <trakinas> losiung the game
[10:16] <trakinas> *losing
[10:16] <trakinas> cheers all
[10:21] <theea> hello
[10:23] <theea> i have a question: i used wine to install yahoo messenger everithing is ok but when i want to start aplication i use the comand open with wine and nothing happend
[10:28] <chips> hello
[10:33] <ubuntu> hi there
[10:33] <Kjellviz> &msg nickserv identify jalla
[10:33] <Kjellviz> zomg
[10:33] <Kjellviz> lol
[10:33] <Kjellviz> anyways
[10:34] <Kjellviz> im running kubuntu livecd
[10:34] <Kjellviz> and wondering if it doesent mount my HDD by default ?
[10:34] <pag> Kjellviz, it doesn't, so the partitioning would be easier
[10:34] <Kjellviz> ok
[10:34] <Kjellviz> but when installed
[10:35] <Kjellviz> will it mount them automatically _
[10:35] <Kjellviz> and even my windows partitions ?
[10:35] <pag> Kjellviz, well it should..
[10:35] <Kjellviz> sounds like its fishy business :P
[10:36] <Kjellviz> but if it doesent
[10:36] <Kjellviz> i guess its not very hard to fix it so it will mount them at boot _
[10:36] <Kjellviz> ?
[10:36] <Kjellviz> (damn foreign keyboard setup)
[10:37] <pag> Kjellviz, then somebody will quickly quide you how to make them mount ;)
[10:37] <Kjellviz> saweet
[10:37] <Kjellviz> thats the kind of answer which is the reason why im now moving from PCLinuxOS to Kubuntu!
[10:37] <pag> :D
[10:38] <Kjellviz> yesterday i got yelled at in their support channel for "telling people to install mandrake packages which was not supported"
[10:38] <Kjellviz> when all i was doing was asking what packages that COULD be installed
[10:38] <Kjellviz> ><
[10:39] <pag> Kjellviz, well don't worry, we don't yell.. we just tell our dear ubotu to inform someone, if (s)he's doing something wrong :)
[10:42] <arun> http://themasterplan.in/2007/07/15/sexy-smooth-fonts-on-kubuntu/   <-- if anyone is interested
[10:43] <Darkrift411> where do i chnage the color of the text on each task button on the kicker?
[10:44] <pag> Darkrift411, if I understood you right, that setting is only available in 3.5.7
[10:44] <Darkrift411> hrmmmmm
[10:44] <Darkrift411> i think ive changed it before
[10:44] <Darkrift411> right now, the text is black
[10:44] <Darkrift411> and i have a black taskbar
[10:45] <Kjellviz> pag: i know, been a ubuntu user before, thats why im changing back !! :)
[10:45] <pag> Darkrift411, in earlier versions it can be changed only with the whole theme. 3.5.7 provides a custom option for taskbar only
[10:46] <Darkrift411> i c
[10:46] <Darkrift411> whats the easiest way to upgrade kde?
[10:47] <Darkrift411> im down with newer versions :)
[10:47] <sx66> hey
[10:47] <pag> Darkrift411, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php
[10:47] <VI_Lenin> Hi people! Can you please tell me how to get  log of kernel-stage boot? For troubleshooting.
[10:48] <sx66> my usb does not mount off of the hdd, it does off of the live cd...what is the deal?
[10:50] <pag> VI_Lenin, logfiles are located in /var/log/ you might be intrested in syslog and boot... I'm not sure about those though
[10:50] <sx66> how do I mount usb drives?
[10:50] <pag> sx66, sudo mount /dev/sdXY /mount/point
[10:52] <sx66> mount: mount point /mount/point does not exist pag
[10:53] <pag> sx66, the command I gave was an example :)  you'll have to kreate your mountpoint  ie. sudo mkdir /mount/myusb
[10:53] <evilmm> rofl
[10:53] <VI_Lenin> Unfortunately, syslog is empty, boot stores just "(Nothing has been logged yet.)". Can I turn kernel messages logging on?
[10:54] <sx66> how do I create a mount point?
[10:54] <Darkrift411> ok, i did what the page said
[10:54] <Darkrift411> but "kde" doesnt show as upgradeable
[10:54] <Darkrift411> lots of kde apps do, and some of the libs and themes have upgrades, but kde itself doesnt
[10:55] <pag> sx66, sudo mkdir /mount/myusb  or sudo mkdit /mount/point
[10:55] <VI_Lenin> My Feisty didn't boot completely yet
[10:55] <pag> Darkrift411, it's how it should be :)
[10:55] <Darkrift411> ok
[10:55] <Darkrift411> just making sure
[10:55] <pag> Darkrift411, kde itself is just a metapackage that isn't even istalled by default
[10:55] <Darkrift411> i c
[10:56] <Darkrift411> so kde just installs all the other crap that make up kde itself?
[10:56] <Darkrift411> that what you mean?
[10:56] <Marner> Darkrift411, yes
[10:57] <pag> Darkrift411, 'kde' installs lots of apps that are more or less controlled by KDE -project... most of them are useless, since Kubuntu provides better alternatives
[10:58] <Darkrift411> i c
[10:58] <Darkrift411> i wonder what all kde 3.90 has thats different
[10:58] <pag> Darkrift411, kde as in desktop-enviroment is mostly installed by kdebase -package
[10:59] <pag> Darkrift411, kde 3.90 is alpha version of upcoming KDE4
[10:59] <Darkrift411> oh really?
[10:59] <Darkrift411> cause they both have diff pages
[10:59] <Darkrift411> diff packages too
[11:00] <Tron04> Hello, is it possible to use the hardware capabilities of the SBlive sound card also in Kubuntu/Linux. I searched the available mixer applications, but did not find a suitable one. Especially I want to fiddle around with the hardware effects the emu10k1 processor provides (like parametric eq, reverb, chorus, distortion etc.). In Win there is the Creative Surround Mixer application or the kx project. Any tipps where to start to find my sol
[11:00] <Tron04> Linux?
[11:00] <pag> Darkrift411, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha1.php  notice the " kde4-3.90.1 "
[11:01] <Darkrift411> i c
[11:01] <Darkrift411> good to know
[11:01] <Darkrift411> i heard kde4 is way off from useable
[11:01] <Darkrift411> and i was about to try 3.90
[11:01] <Darkrift411> this kde upgrade is boggin gmy system down bad
[11:02] <pag> Darkrift411, don't... KDE4 *is* far from usable... really really far
[11:02] <Darkrift411> yeah
[11:03] <ggarlic> maybe
[11:03] <Darkrift411> i like betas, but not alphas
[11:03] <Darkrift411> is there by any chance a way to restart kde without having certain apps close?
[11:03] <arun> Darkrift411: you can save your session
[11:04] <arun> and once it restarts, it will load those apps again in the same state
[11:04] <Darkrift411> but xchat would still disconnect
[11:04] <manu_> hi i installed timidity, put snd-seq in /etc/modules, made modprobe of it, started timidty as server, but kmid gives me the following error
[11:04] <manu_> is this a ubuntu specific bug?
[11:04] <Darkrift411> i wrote some scripts that do channel/server maintenance elsewhere that i hate to stop if i dont have to
[11:04] <manu_> Cannot connect to 20:0
[11:04] <manu_> Player :: Couldn't play !
[11:04] <Darkrift411> which is why i hate rebooting
[11:05] <manu_> pmid and timidity play the midi files well
[11:05] <manu_> but i want the graphical karaoke feature of kmid ...
[11:05] <ggarlic> sorry to interrupt you,i'm a rookie using linux.who can tell me what's the difference between kde and gnome.just make a simple explanation.thank you
[11:06] <arun> hey ggarlic
[11:07] <ggarlic> yeah,i'm here
[11:07] <Tron04> Kde: more configuration options for various settings, Gnome: More focused configuration options. KDE uses QT, Gnome uses GTK libs
[11:08] <ggarlic> thank you Tron04.
[11:08] <arun> KDE is nicer overall, but again that depends on your personal preferences
[11:11] <ggarlic> and also thank you arun.i'm student from china.and i'm doing all my best to study linux.
[11:11] <Darkrift> thx guys
[11:11] <Darkrift> my upgrade seems to have went well
[11:12] <Darkrift> i see where to change the text color, but is there a way to change the font or font size?
[11:13] <Tron04> Arun: The niceness is a fading thing. First you think: wow, these windows anymate nicely when opening and closing them. But after some usage you just want to a windows to open immediately with no fancy effects. I have not found my favorite Windowmanager yet, but I think xfce will do it...
[11:13] <arun> I don't use any fancy effects
[11:13] <arun> Everything works pretty fast for me
[11:14] <arun> Darkrift: font size of what
[11:16] <pag> Darkrift, kcontrol -> Appearance.. -> Fonts -> taskbar font
[11:18] <Darkrift> nice
[11:22] <Diki> bananas
[11:33] <Dimitry|> hi
[11:33] <Dimitry|> wie mach ich das beryl der standard wm ist?
[11:42] <_gtt_> right
[11:43] <Darkrift> im soo damned tired of seeing these badass screenshots of other users linux desktops and never being able to get anywhere near the same look
[11:44] <monzie> can someone please tell me how to generate rmd160 for a file?
[11:44] <vzduch> !language | Darkrift
[11:44] <ubotu> Darkrift: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:44] <_gtt_> dang
[11:44] <_gtt_> obutu's strict
[11:45] <Kjellviz> ahh how good this fresh install of kubuntu feels
[11:46] <Darkrift> vzduch, daytime television is allowed to say a lot worse then that word, and i fail to see how that combination of those 2 words are un family friendly
[11:46] <Darkrift> b**** a** p**** are all allowed on "family" tv these days
[11:47] <Darkrift> not trying to start an arguement, just stating an opinion
[11:48] <Darkrift> !broadcom
[11:48] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:48] <vzduch> well, if it were for me, I hadn't said anything.. us Europeans are much more relaxed in this respect than those Americans.. :>
[11:49] <Darkrift> heh
[11:49] <Darkrift> tell me about it
[11:49] <Darkrift> after seeing some european tv shows i no longer feel i have a "potty mouth"
[11:50] <Darkrift> but its all in the context
[11:50] <Darkrift> someone in here told me about a bcm43xx driver that was new that i should try, but i wasnt able to that day'
[11:50] <Darkrift> wish i could find it again
[11:50] <vzduch> if I just recall an interview of a Dutch radio DJ w/ the member of an American band some years ago, where the DJ said, "He doesn't believe we can say 'f*ck' on the radio.." *gg*
[11:51] <Darkrift> heh
[11:51] <Darkrift> the word i hear in british tv shows that doesnt fly in the us is c**t
[11:52] <Darkrift> its every 4th word in some of thier shows
[11:52] <Darkrift> but if you say it in the us, you get slapped by any female in a 40ft radius
[11:52] <vzduch> hehe
[11:53] <Darkrift> thats the word i say when i really want to piss off a female
[11:53] <kuukkeli> how i install the damn tahoma font? :E
[11:53] <Darkrift> ive used it twice (very sparingly)
[11:53] <kuukkeli> I need tahoma font for steam
[11:53] <Lynoure> Darkrift: Do you have a support question about that?
[11:53] <bart_> Can somebody help me, I installed my nvidia driver and now I only have a blinking cursor thing...
[11:53] <Darkrift> about what?
[11:53] <vzduch> kuukkeli: you either have it or you don't, it's nowhere to be found on the 'net
[11:54] <Lynoure> Darkrift: indeed...
[11:54] <Darkrift> exactly.....
[11:54] <kuukkeli> vzduch, how so?
[11:54] <vzduch> kuukkeli: comes w/ M$ Office e.g.
[11:55] <bart_> Can someone help me please :)
[11:55] <Dragon_1212> wtf
[11:55] <Dragon_1212> omg wtf is up with beryl
[11:55] <Dragon_1212> it keep f****g up
[11:55] <Darkrift> how do i find out what driver im using for my wifi?
[11:56] <Darkrift> dont remember if im using the "native" driver or ndiswrapper
[11:57] <runlevelten> beryl = experimental.
[11:57] <kuukkeli> vzduch, then how some people who uses linux has Tahoma? =D
[11:57] <kclauw> anyone else ever had a problem with fmtutil.cnf and tetex?
[11:58] <Lynoure> Darkrift: you could possibly see it with lsmod as a loaded module.
[11:58] <vzduch> kuukkeli: I think you can answer that question yourself. :>
[11:58] <runlevelten> Microsoft released those fonts to the general public some time ago.
[11:59] <vzduch> kclauw: tetex is deprecated, use TeXLive :)
[11:59] <Darkrift> ieee80211              34760  2 bcm43xx,ieee80211softmac
[11:59] <Darkrift> i see that
[11:59] <vzduch> runlevelten: Tahoma is not part of the M$ TrueType Core fonts
[11:59] <Darkrift> but how do i fidn out if its ndiswrapper or the native driver
[11:59] <kclauw> vzduch: I tried that, but then I still need tetex-base according to Adept
[12:00] <vzduch> kclauw: possible, I didn't get around using LaTeX yet :(
[12:01] <vzduch> my aptitude installed it as a dependency for ubuntustudio
[12:02] <kclauw> vzduch: thx anyway
[12:03] <runlevelten> vzduch: You're right, I'm thinking of Trebuchet
[12:04] <kuukkeli> vzduch, i found the font
[12:05] <kuukkeli> but where are the linux's font folder?
[12:06] <pag> kuukkeli, just a guess: /usr/share/fonts ?
[12:06] <vzduch> kuukkeli: try 'fonts:/' in your favourite file manager (personal fonts) or use the font installation function in the Control Center in sysadmin mode for system-wide fonts
[12:07] <runlevelten> yeah, kcontrol's fonts section ftw
[12:07] <runlevelten> Too many icky font problems over the years to feel guilty about using the gui too.
[12:07] <arun> usr/share/fonts is correct
[12:07] <runlevelten> heh
[12:08] <vzduch> the actual directories are ~/.fonts/ (personal) and /usr/share/fonts/ (system-wide; nicely divided into subdirectories)
[12:09] <kuukkeli> vzduch, you mean Adept manager?
[12:11] <vzduch> kuukkeli: no, Konqueror, Krusader, whatever
[12:11] <kuukkeli> Oh
[12:11] <Trunkkis> Is it possible to re-istall kubuntu without deleting your files from harddriwe?
[12:12] <kuukkeli> i think so yes
[12:12] <vzduch> Trunkkis: depends on what you want to keep
[12:12] <vzduch> and on your partition layout
[12:12] <kuukkeli> "MAH PORN!"
[12:12] <vzduch> sure :D
[12:13] <Trunkkis> :P I'd like to save my music
[12:13] <kuukkeli> and porn
[12:13] <Trunkkis> no... no porn
[12:13] <kuukkeli> :O
[12:13] <kuukkeli> you fag? =o
[12:13] <Trunkkis> nope
[12:13] <Trunkkis> I've got a girlfriend ^^
[12:13] <vzduch> it's always adviseable to have a separate partition for /home, then you can keep your user and all the settings and files
[12:13] <kuukkeli> and i'm santaclaus ^_____________________________________^
[12:14] <Trunkkis> >.<
[12:14] <vzduch> if not, you should back up /home/yourUserName/
[12:14] <Lynoure> These Ubuntu channels are not what they used to be...
[12:14] <vzduch> Lynoure: why?
[12:14] <kuukkeli> Beware of the raper Bears filled with viagra and rabid bunnies and CANNIBAL DUCKS! real threat of humankind
[12:14] <Lynoure> vzduch: 'why' I don't know. Will 'how' suffice?
[12:14] <Trunkkis> vzduch: and how can I do that and where?
[12:15] <arun> hello Lynoure
[12:15] <Diki> Is there a way to have a sound play when you receive a PM in Konversation?
[12:16] <vzduch> Trunkkis: there's a number of possibilities.. possibly the easiest way is to just tar /home/yourUserName/ together & put the resulting .tar archive on another partition or burn to DVD
[12:16] <runlevelten> diki: settings>configure notifications
[12:16] <Lynoure> vzduch: this used to be a support channel quite suitable for even 10 year old kubuntu users... But nowadays there is a lot of stuff not that suitable, and no one seems to care.
[12:16] <pag> Diki, yup. Settings -> Configure Notifications
[12:16] <Trunkkis> ok
[12:16] <Lynoure> hi arunkale
[12:16] <runlevelten> Lynoure: not generally there isn't. There's the odd exception, of course.
[12:17] <Trunkkis> well i've only one partition and my dvd-burning is not working
[12:17] <Kjellviz> when ive installed Nvidia drivers, it says im supposed to run this "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"
[12:17] <Kjellviz> is that ok ?
[12:17] <Kjellviz> i remember that caused me some headache in ubuntu last time
[12:18] <Kjellviz> could not start x afterwards ><
[12:18] <aznpridechinese> are you trying to install nvidia driver kjell?
[12:18] <Kjellviz> yes
[12:18] <aznpridechinese> i can help
[12:18] <Kjellviz> from the repos
[12:18] <aznpridechinese> i've mastered it
[12:18] <pag> Lynoure, so you'd prefer tougher moderation here?
[12:18] <Kjellviz> sweet thank you
[12:18] <aznpridechinese> what card do you have?
[12:18] <Kjellviz> 7900 GS
[12:18] <aznpridechinese> well... mastered my 8800gtx that is
[12:18] <Kjellviz> laptop version
[12:18] <Lynoure> pag: or dropping the CoC pretense, either or.
[12:18] <aznpridechinese> are you able to use the version from nvidia.com?
[12:18] <Kjellviz> but its a PCIe card nevertheless
[12:18] <aznpridechinese> so is mine
[12:18] <Kjellviz> no idea
[12:19] <aznpridechinese> ok try this
[12:19] <aznpridechinese> gonna take me a min to type up all the info
[12:19] <Kjellviz> np ill wait ^^
[12:19] <vzduch> aznpridechinese: use the provided packages if you can
[12:19] <aznpridechinese> provided packages dont' work
[12:19] <Kjellviz> they dont ?
[12:19] <vzduch> for the 8800 you can't afaik, but the 7900 should run on these
[12:20] <aznpridechinese> well if you know better than you give him the instructions... i'll just go back to watching my movies
[12:20] <Kjellviz> i had it running on my 6600gt using provided packages
[12:20] <Kjellviz> but i had some issues with that "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" rendering my X useless ><
[12:21] <Kjellviz> had to manually reconfigre xorg.conf afterwards
[12:21] <Kjellviz> buuut
[12:21] <Kjellviz> aznpridechinese: please continue
[12:22] <pag> Kjellviz, installing nvidia-glx-new  should work...
[12:22] <aznpridechinese> ok before anything, type this, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[12:22] <aznpridechinese> then enable all the resolutions you want xserver to use, it'll default to the highest resolution possible
[12:22] <vzduch> aznpridechinese: the -phigh option causes some other settings in xorg.conf to get lost
[12:22] <aznpridechinese> then you'll want to download the driver from nvidia.com
[12:23] <pag> aznpridechinese, that command isn't really reccomended for those, that don't use en_US kb-layout
[12:23] <aznpridechinese> he doesn't?
[12:23] <Kjellviz> nope
[12:23] <aznpridechinese> ok nvm that options then
[12:23] <aznpridechinese> option
[12:23] <Kjellviz> lol ok
[12:23] <Kjellviz> pag: is that the driver in Adept ?
[12:23] <pag> Kjellviz, yup.
[12:23] <Kjellviz> well ok
[12:23] <aznpridechinese> but do the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:24] <aznpridechinese> then type sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:24] <aznpridechinese> then sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-dev
[12:24] <aznpridechinese> then sudo nano /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules*
[12:24] <jpatrick> hi Hobbsee
[12:24] <vzduch> aznpridechinese: hold on a sec, we're trying to install from the repo.. if that fails, you can come up w/ your variant :)
[12:24] <Kjellviz> holy mother of....
[12:24] <Kjellviz> lol
[12:25] <Kjellviz> well i can try repos first
[12:25] <Kjellviz> n
[12:25] <aznpridechinese> and then there should be a line that says DISABLED_MODULES=""to DISABLED_MODULES="" type nv in between the last ""
[12:25] <Kjellviz> np*
[12:25] <aznpridechinese> ok
[12:25] <Kjellviz> but
[12:25] <Kjellviz> as i said
[12:25] <Kjellviz> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[12:25] <aznpridechinese> i'll go watch my movie then
[12:25] <Kjellviz> will it fubar my xorg again ?
[12:25] <pag> Kjellviz, it might... but reconfiguring it shouldn't be a great problem
[12:26] <Hobbsee> hi jpatrick!
[12:26] <Hobbsee> jpatrick: LTNS
[12:26] <Kjellviz> pag: it can be for someone who aint to comfy editing xorg.conf in nano etc
[12:26] <jpatrick> Hobbsee: yep, been doing things
[12:27] <Kjellviz> as mentioned, last time i couldnt start X after running that command and restarting X
[12:27] <Hobbsee> :)
[12:27] <song-birdie> :-P
[12:27] <pag> Kjellviz, that sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg should work... it will mess your kb-layout, but it's easy to repair afterwards
[12:28] <Kjellviz> you mean now, or if sudo nvidia-glx-config enable messes up my xorg.conf ?
[12:28] <kuukkeli> is kubuntu and ubuntu debian linuxes?
[12:28] <vzduch> Kjellviz: no need to edit xorg.conf normally.. that's what 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' is for.. but if you care for some custom settings you might want to back up your xorg.conf first
[12:28] <pag> Kjellviz, it might, it might not... I won't promise anything
[12:28] <Kjellviz> kuukkeli: yes they where initially based on debian, and you have access to all debian repos as an option (non supported i think)
[12:29] <vzduch> pag: I prefer a full reconfigure.. the driver didn't identify my monitor modes correctly.. when reconfiguring you can specify your monitor frequencies which will result in an optimal picture :)
[12:29] <Kjellviz> pag: no what i mean is: WHEN do i use that command ?
[12:29] <Kjellviz> after using sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[12:30] <Kjellviz> before ?
[12:30] <Kjellviz> if things mess up ?
[12:30] <Kjellviz> ><
[12:30] <vzduch> Kjellviz: after, I'd say
[12:30] <pag> vzduch, sure. But automatic on is just far easier, and it works in 60% of the cases
[12:30] <Kjellviz> ok after, but still before i restart X ?
[12:30] <pag> Kjellviz, after... you don't have to use it, if all goes well :)
[12:30] <Kjellviz> aha ok
[12:30] <Kjellviz> thanks
[12:31] <pag> Kjellviz, nope... try restartin X first, because it might as well work as expected
[12:31] <Kjellviz> ok thanks =D
[12:31] <song-birdie> hello!!!  can anybody help me?  im just new here.  i have been having problems on how to install kde into my ubuntu system.  i also have kubuntu live cd.  but how and where should i start?  now that i want to install it into my machine without internet access.  i tried aptoncd, but it doesn't work on all packages.  can somebody share some knowledge regarding this?
[12:33] <kuukkeli> Kjellviz, your linux crashes after you enable the driver and reboot rite?
[12:34] <Kjellviz> not sure yet, im gonna try now
[12:34] <Kjellviz> it didnt crash last time i tried
[12:34] <kuukkeli> if that's the problem, just take the power off from pc and take the  power cable off
[12:34] <Kjellviz> but that was another PC
[12:34] <kuukkeli> and then just check the wire on your graphics card
[12:34] <Kjellviz> its a laptop ><
[12:34] <kuukkeli> xD
[12:34] <Kjellviz> =P
[12:34] <kuukkeli> owie
[12:34] <kuukkeli> ;p
[12:35] <Kjellviz> but thanks anyway hehe
[12:35] <rohhy> hi
[12:35] <rohhy> I can't find the "boost 20 db" option in my KMix in kubuntu
[12:35] <Kjellviz> brb, gotta try restarting X now
[12:35] <rohhy> could you help me please?
[12:36] <pag> rohhy, should be found in Swiches-tab
[12:37] <rohhy> I can't find it, where exactly?
[12:38] <pag> rohhy, kmix -> Switches I have it as 1. option from left
[12:39] <rohhy> pag: :"( I have only Headphone and EIC958
[12:40] <pag> rohhy, well... you could try installing alsaconfig and see from there
[12:41] <rohhy> pag: maybe I have incorrect souncard setings... because the option is present in my fedora-gnome
[12:41] <rohhy> pag" ok
[12:41] <aznpridechinese> everyting turn out ok?
[12:41] <pag> rohhy, seems I've remembered the package wrong, and I can't find the right one :(
[12:44] <rohhy> pag: which package? the kmix or some sound card driver?
[12:44] <pag> rohhy, alsaconf
[12:44] <pag> !alsa
[12:44] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[12:45] <pag> alsamixer is the name!
[12:45] <rohhy> pag, good , so i will install it, thx
[12:47] <Kjellviz> allrite
[12:47] <aznpridechinese> did it work?
[12:47] <Kjellviz> your command saved me hehe
[12:48] <Kjellviz> but now my ext bluetooth keyboard aint working
[12:48] <vzduch> Kjellviz: hopefully you have a backup of your old xorg.conf, then you can copy the keyboard section
[12:49] <Kjellviz> i do
[12:49] <dennis_> hi there, i have this problem that amarok and kaffeine crash after a couple of seconds, but rhythmbox works, anyone with a solution?
[12:49] <Kjellviz> but i suspect its as easy as pairing the devices again
[12:49] <Kjellviz> cos it said it could not connect
[12:51] <Kjellviz> brb
[12:53] <dennis_> hi there, i have this problem that amarok and kaffeine crash after a couple of seconds, but rhythmbox works, anyone with a solution?
[12:54] <pag> dennis_, launch either of them via konsole and see, if they output some error messages
[12:59] <Kjellviz> the keyboard settings in xorg.conf are almost identical to the backup
[12:59] <Kjellviz> only difference is the language
[01:00] <Kjellviz> problem is i cant connect to it via bluetooth, the keyb just keeps searching
[01:00] <stevo111> hi
[01:00] <stevo111> i need help
[01:00] <stevo111> im new to linux
[01:00] <pag> !ask | stevo111
[01:00] <ubotu> stevo111: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:01] <vzduch> how about the Device and Files sections?
[01:01] <vzduch> !enter | stevo111
[01:01] <ubotu> stevo111: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:01] <stevo111> and i cant install stuff
[01:01] <Dragon_1212> hi stevo
[01:01] <stevo111> hello
[01:01] <Dragon_1212> are u on live CD???
[01:01] <Dragon_1212> or installed the OS???
[01:01] <stevo111> nope
[01:01] <Dragon_1212> hmmm
[01:01] <stevo111> i installed linux
[01:01] <Dragon_1212> interesting
[01:02] <stevo111> i installd linux fine
[01:02] <Dragon_1212> well sorry cant help u neither ive only used linux for quite umm 3 days lol
[01:02] <stevo111> lol
[01:02] <pag> stevo111, what do you mean by "I can't install stuff"
[01:02] <stevo111> i just installed it last night
[01:02] <Dragon_1212> like apps
[01:02] <stevo111> yea
[01:02] <stevo111> brb
[01:02] <Dragon_1212> thts wht he means
[01:02] <vzduch> Dragon_1212: it's still a meta question
[01:03] <Dragon_1212> true
[01:03] <Dragon_1212> now gimme ur AIM lo jk
[01:03] <Dragon_1212> wht u mean i got AIM on my ubuntu
[01:03] <Kjellviz> vzduch: im checking the entire xorg.conf now for differences
[01:04] <Dragon_1212>  yo
[01:04] <Dragon_1212>   ok
[01:04] <vzduch> stevo111: how about you asking your specific question?
[01:05] <Dragon_1212>  ok
[01:05] <Dragon_1212>  ok
[01:05] <Dragon_1212>  l
[01:05] <Dragon_1212>  l
[01:05] <stevo111> back
[01:05] <vzduch> Dragon_1212: stop it.
[01:05] <Dragon_1212>  whtat
[01:05] <Dragon_1212> what
[01:05] <Dragon_1212>  just trying things out
[01:05] <pag> !coc | Dragon_1212
[01:05] <ubotu> Dragon_1212: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[01:05] <stevo111> right how do i install rar
[01:05] <vzduch> not here in the channel please
[01:06] <vzduch> stevo111: search for it in Adept or use 'sudo aptitude install rar'
[01:06] <pag> stevo111, enable multiverse and install unrar ;)
[01:06] <Dragon_1212>  nah its got cookies dont trust it
[01:06] <Kjellviz> vzduch: nope, there are nothing in xorg.conf that differs except from the video part (which makes sense since thats whats been changed due to installing driver)
[01:06] <vzduch> pag: you can actually install rar
[01:06] <stevo111> wtf is multiverse?
[01:06] <pag> !multiverse | stevo111
[01:06] <ubotu> stevo111: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:06] <vzduch> !multiverse
[01:07] <stevo111> ok\
[01:07] <stevo111> thx
[01:07] <pag> vzduch, yeah. sorry. I misread the question
[01:07] <Dragon_1212>  HEY EVERYONE go to youtube and look up GOLDEN BOY!!!!
[01:07] <Kjellviz> hmmm brb gotta test something
[01:07] <Dragon_1212>  :)
[01:07] <aznpridechinese> how goes the nvidia driver kjell?
[01:07] <stevo111> he left
[01:07] <vzduch> I'll go take a bath, bbl :)
[01:07] <stevo111> lol
[01:08] <Dragon_1212>  dam finally ive downloaded 800 updates lol
[01:08] <stevo111> lol
[01:08] <stevo111> i just updated mine
[01:08] <pclip> hi
[01:09] <Dragon_1212>  yea well beleive me ur going to love u buntu
[01:09] <Dragon_1212> ubuntu*
[01:09] <pclip> hehe - i'm downloading the updates too :)
[01:09] <Dragon_1212> hi
[01:09] <Dragon_1212> lol
[01:09] <stevo111> its cleaner
[01:09] <pclip> how do i start apache and php?
[01:09] <Dragon_1212> yea
[01:10] <stevo111> and not much viruses
[01:10] <Dragon_1212> and no viruses on ubuntu or spyware
[01:10] <pag> pclip, hmm.. sudo /etc/init.d/apache start  ?
[01:10] <pag> !lamp | pclip
[01:10] <ubotu> pclip: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[01:10] <Dragon_1212> well i got antivirus and spyware software just incase lol
[01:10] <pclip> well, ok. i've just downloaded xampp - for local development, and am trying to make a shortcut for the desktop to start the server
[01:11] <Dragon_1212> yo stevo u got AIM?
[01:11] <pclip> ahh - xampp seems much easier to install :)
[01:12] <Dragon_1212> wht is xampp?
[01:12] <Dragon_1212> might i add
[01:12] <pclip> apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html
[01:12] <pclip> www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html
[01:12] <Dragon_1212> yea but what is it tell me
[01:12] <pclip> i've used it for a while now
[01:12] <Dragon_1212> is it for games?
[01:12] <pclip> it's a lampp server
[01:12] <Dragon_1212> and???
[01:12] <Dragon_1212> used for?
[01:13] <pclip> php/perl development
[01:13] <Dragon_1212> oh isee
[01:13] <Dragon_1212> well i cant my beryl software to get to work right idk why
[01:14] <Dragon_1212> it keeps screwing up
[01:14] <stevo111> lol i need a dual boot :(
[01:14] <pclip> i've put the command i want to issue for this shortcut in the shortcut command linle - but it doesn't seem to actually work. the command works if i issue it from konsole
[01:14] <Dragon_1212> lol i dont have dual boot lol
[01:14] <Dragon_1212> i hate WINBLOWS
[01:14] <stevo111> its easier to use
[01:14] <stevo111> lol
[01:15] <Dragon_1212> well im a technican so yea lol
[01:15] <stevo111> i mean i cant even install java
[01:15] <Dragon_1212> nothings too hard for me
[01:15] <Dragon_1212> unless i cant fix it lol
[01:15] <pag> stevo111, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:15] <Dragon_1212> lol
[01:16] <pag> stevo111, remember to enable all repos before issuing that command
[01:16] <Dragon_1212> so it can screw up ur computer lol
[01:16] <stevo111> i dunno how
[01:16] <pclip> what's in the extras?
[01:16] <stevo111> :(
[01:16] <pag> !repos | stevo111
[01:16] <ubotu> stevo111: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:17] <pag> stevo111, see that link, there are the instructions :)
[01:17] <pag> pclip, codecs, java, flash etc. (iirc)
[01:18] <stevo111> i gtg
[01:18] <stevo111> bye
[01:18] <pag> pclip, "Depends on: gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly, gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse, msttcorefonts, flashplugin-nonfree, sun-java6-plugin"
[01:18] <Kjellviz> hmm this is getting annoying ><
[01:18] <Kjellviz> it says the keyboard is connected, but i cannot use it
[01:18] <Dragon_1212> lol
[01:18] <Kjellviz> i just tried in Vista. and the keyboard works fine there
[01:19] <Dragon_1212> i thought u meant i was getting annoying lol
[01:19] <pclip> mhh
[01:19] <Kjellviz> aaaand. the bluetooth icon keeps disappearing and popping up again in systray
[01:19] <pclip> can i issue the password along with a sudo command?
[01:19] <Dragon_1212> well what kind of keyboard is it
[01:19] <Kjellviz> hehe no Dragon_1212
[01:19] <Dragon_1212> lol
[01:19] <Kjellviz> microsoft wireless entertainment desktop
[01:20] <Dragon_1212> thts ur problem
[01:20] <Dragon_1212> lol
[01:20] <Dragon_1212> MICROSOFT
[01:20] <pclip> haha
[01:20] <Kjellviz> bluetooth keyb that was working fine until i installed nvidia drivers
[01:20] <Dragon_1212> well it is screwing with it
[01:20] <Dragon_1212> maybe
[01:20] <Dragon_1212> or consisitency
[01:20] <pclip> i want to run a command that has to be run as root from a shortcut on hte desktop
[01:20] <Kjellviz> dunno
[01:21] <pclip> is this possible without the shortcut asking for a pw?
[01:21] <Kjellviz> im gonna try restoring my backup xorg.conf
[01:21] <Kjellviz> brb
[01:21] <Dragon_1212> i am never going back to WINDOWS again it took my dad almost a day to install vista
[01:21] <Dragon_1212> on his comp
[01:21] <Dragon_1212> lol
[01:21] <Kjellviz> ive just got myself a brand new comp
[01:22] <Kjellviz> with vista preinstalled
[01:22] <Dragon_1212> with ubuntu?
[01:22] <Kjellviz> thats why im here
[01:22] <Dragon_1212> well good luck playing video games lol
[01:22] <GrahamA> Hey people.
[01:22] <Dragon_1212> unless u got wine
[01:22] <Kjellviz> np ive been running WoW in wine for 4 months
[01:22] <Dragon_1212> hi
[01:22] <Dragon_1212> well i get bad fps in wine
[01:23] <Kjellviz> ive got np
[01:23] <Dragon_1212> hate it
[01:23] <Dragon_1212> ill just wait till quake wars comes out
[01:23] <Dragon_1212> for linux
[01:23] <Dragon_1212> or valve steam
[01:23] <GrahamA> You can replace some of the wine .dll files with the windows ones I think.
[01:23] <GrahamA> I reckon that'd make it run better.
[01:23] <Dragon_1212> meh....im to lazy takes to much time
[01:23] <Kjellviz> ive got a steady 30-35 dps in wow running in wine
[01:24] <Kjellviz> at 1920-1200 reso
[01:24] <Dragon_1212> no me i get like 10
[01:24] <Dragon_1212> or 9
[01:24] <Kjellviz> and all effects on max
[01:24] <Kjellviz> so im satisfied :)
[01:24] <GrahamA> Actually, while I'm here, how can I find the make/model of my motherboard and cpu?
[01:24] <Dragon_1212> umm
[01:24] <Dragon_1212> is it intel
[01:24] <Dragon_1212> or amd
[01:24] <GrahamA> amd
[01:24] <Dragon_1212> go to amd.com
[01:24] <Dragon_1212> and get the checker
[01:25] <Dragon_1212> for it
[01:25] <Dragon_1212> to see
[01:25] <GrahamA> Will that work on Linux?
[01:25] <Dragon_1212> umm thts going to be a problem
[01:25] <Kjellviz> brb restarting x
[01:25] <Dragon_1212> u can always got to system
[01:25] <GrahamA> I mean, the computer has windows, it's just I imagine it requires some active x thing, and I'm sure we all know what that's like.
[01:26] <GrahamA> Like rape, only a bit different.
[01:27] <Dragon_1212> lol
[01:27] <Dragon_1212> i know what u mean
[01:27] <GrahamA> I had a Dell, but the otherday my brother gave me an old box he has that seems to be faster than it, windows things it's an amd athlon xp +1600 1.47ghz, mobo things it's +1800
[01:27] <Dragon_1212> i cant say that linux doesnt have problems too
[01:28] <Dragon_1212> some of the things wont work for it
[01:29] <Kjellviz> i get an errormessage stating "failed to connect to the SDP server" when i restart bluetooth services
[01:29] <Kjellviz> any idea ?
[01:29] <Dragon_1212> ummm
[01:29] <Dragon_1212> dont use it?
[01:29] <Dragon_1212> :)
[01:29] <Kjellviz> dont use my keyboard ?
[01:29] <Dragon_1212> yes
[01:29] <Dragon_1212> lol
[01:29] <Dragon_1212> or get the drivers
[01:30] <Dragon_1212> either way
[01:30] <Kjellviz> well it works fine under live cd
[01:30] <Kjellviz> it worked fine after install
[01:30] <Kjellviz> then when i installed the nvidia drivers
[01:30] <dennis_> hi there, i have this problem that amarok and kaffeine crash after a couple of seconds, but rhythmbox works, anyone with a solution? This is in general the output of the konsole: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[01:31] <Kjellviz> and ran "sudo dkgp-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" it stopped working
[01:31] <GrahamA> Kjellviz: Check /etc/X11 for any backups to xorg.conf
[01:32] <GrahamA> I belive it will of made one.
[01:32] <GrahamA> In future, never run that command.
[01:32] <Kjellviz> ive already restored the backup
[01:32] <GrahamA> You're fucked.
[01:33] <Kjellviz> ive got my keyboard back to norwegian
[01:33] <Kjellviz> ok ?
[01:33] <GrahamA> Wait, does it work?
[01:33] <Kjellviz> no
[01:34] <GrahamA> ...
[01:34] <kuukkeli> yay
[01:34] <kuukkeli> Steam works :D
[01:34] <GrahamA> sudo dkgp-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:34] <GrahamA> Try that.
[01:34] <GrahamA> Reconfigure everything.
[01:35] <GrahamA> kuukkeli: No it doesn't.
[01:36] <Kjellviz> hmmmk, thats basically what messed it up in the first place ><
[01:36] <GrahamA> No, it'll reconfigure ALL of xorg
[01:37] <GrahamA> Kjellviz: Wait, do you still get the SDP error?
[01:38] <nuxil> hi all..
[01:38] <kuukkeli> GrahamA, how so? =D
[01:38] <Kjellviz> GrahamA: yep
[01:39] <Kjellviz> its the SDPD server that aint running if im not mistaken
[01:39] <Kjellviz> trying to find a solution using google ><
[01:40] <GrahamA> Yeah, fix that before fucking xorg over again.
[01:40] <Kjellviz> my thought exacly
[01:40] <Kjellviz> +t
[01:40] <nuxil> im running out of diskspace. and i was checking what dirs that are huge.. i noticed that /var/lib is 26.3 GB why is that dir so big ? and can i safely delete it?
[01:40] <Kjellviz> but im not figuring out how to start the server ><
[01:40] <GrahamA> nuxil: Have a look in it.
[01:41] <vzduch> nuxil: you probably want to run 'sudo apt-get clean' and/or 'sudo aptitude clean'
[01:42] <nuxil> hehe.. mythtv with recording of 25.6 GB
[01:42] <nuxil> in that dir..
[01:42] <nuxil> vzduch, yea.. i know.
[01:42] <nuxil> vzduch, but my /var/cache is only 119 MB
[01:43] <vzduch> nuxil: then you want to either move or remove the mythtv recordings :)
[01:43] <nuxil> indeed i want to
[01:44] <Kjellviz> anyone got a clue to what SDP server is and how to start it ?
[01:44] <GrahamA> nuxil: How big is your hard drive?
[01:44] <camilla> ciao
[01:45] <GrahamA> Could anybody tell me why I'm getting a bounty of I/O errors when trying to loda a kubuntu livecd?
[01:45] <vzduch> bad burn probably.. I have a similar problem w/ another live CD
[01:46] <GrahamA> Right.
[01:46] <GrahamA> The incredible edible dvd isn't as incredible... but just as edible...
[01:46] <nuxil> GrahamA, my / is only 75 GB
[01:47] <GrahamA> Buy a bigger one, they make 1TB hard drives now :P
[01:47] <GrahamA> brb
[01:54] <tapas> i kinda dislike how kmail crashes when changing expiration settings
[01:54] <tapas> grrr
[01:54] <tapas> in a folder
[01:58] <wepiha> GrahamA: had you checked the md5sum before burning your live-cd ISO?
[02:01] <luke83> hi there, i would like to set up a mirror for kubuntu to use it for installation in a network without internet connection. does anyone know how to do that?
[02:06] <Ace2016> luke83: are you after this kind of thing? http://www.howtoforge.com/local_debian_ubuntu_mirror_p2
[02:25] <vzduch> !grub
[02:25] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:26] <kjellviz> hi again
[02:27] <kjellviz> that nvidia driver from the repos kills my bluetooth server for some reason
[02:27] <kjellviz> i reinstalled kubuntu
[02:28] <kjellviz> and the reboot after installing and enabling nvidia driver in xorg.conf (manually this time by adding nvidia istead of nv under device) i loose the functionality of my keyboard
[02:30] <kjellviz> gonna try uninstall the driver and see if i get my keyboard back
[02:30] <kjellviz> or if i need to reinstall again
[02:30] <kjellviz> so brb
[02:34] <BluesKaj> 'Morning All :)
[02:36] <vzduch> afternoon BluesKaj
[02:40] <rami_> i need help
[02:40] <rami_> i removed the k-menu on accident
[02:40] <sad> hello all:)
[02:41] <rami_> i need to get it back
[02:41] <sad> anyone know how to install GKISMET? i cant find on snaptics
[02:45] <sad> anyone knows GKISMET here???
[02:45] <rami_> can i get help?(desperate)
[02:45] <sad> rami whats your prob?
[02:45] <BluesKaj> rami_, sudo apt-get --fix-broken install
[02:46] <rami_> ty
[02:46] <pag> BluesKaj, why not sudo apt-get -f install  ? :)
[02:47] <rami_> didnd work!
[02:47] <rami_> pag yourdidnt work either
[02:47] <pag> rami_, it's the same command ;)
[02:47] <luke83> hey, thanks, that's what i was looking for.
[02:47] <rami_> -.-
[02:48] <wepiha> sad: have you tried the #gtk, #gnome or #perl channels?
[02:48] <pag> rami_, what's your problem?  I missed it
[02:48] <rami_> i removed the K-menu
[02:48] <sad> wepiha: thx i will try
[02:49] <pag> rami_, from the panel? well right click on panel and "add aplett to panel" -> "kmenu"
[02:50] <BluesKaj> rami, did you relogin ?
[02:51] <BluesKaj> ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:52] <Schuenemann> !mad
[02:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:52] <Schuenemann> !libmad
[02:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libmad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:52] <rami> didnt work. my whole taskbar is gone now...
[02:53] <Schuenemann> where can I get this MAD plugin for K3b?
[02:53] <rami> luckily i enabled the kasbar
[02:54] <wepiha> !libmad0 | Schuenemann
[02:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libmad0 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:54] <wepiha> odd
[02:54] <pag> !info libmad0
[02:54] <ubotu> libmad0: MPEG audio decoder library. In component main, is optional. Version 0.15.1b-2.1 (feisty), package size 75 kB, installed size 160 kB
[02:54] <Schuenemann> wepiha, I already have that package
[02:54] <Schuenemann> I have libmad0
[02:55] <wepiha> for mp3 -> audio support?
[02:55] <wepiha> !info libk3b2-mp3
[02:55] <ubotu> libk3b2-mp3: The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 39 kB, installed size 104 kB
[02:55] <Schuenemann> To enable mp3 support, please install the MAD library for mp3 decoding and also the k3b MAD plugin for mp3 decoding.
[02:56] <rami> I FIXED IT!*jumps up and down*
[02:56] <Schuenemann> I get this error when I start k3b
[02:56] <BluesKaj> rami, do what pag suggested  :click on panel and "add aplet to panel" -> "kmenu"
[02:56] <rami> its fixed now
[02:56] <titanix88> hey blueskaj?
[02:56] <BluesKaj> good
[02:56] <BluesKaj> hi titanix88
[02:56] <Schuenemann> wepiha, is that for k3bb?
[02:56] <rami> ty for you help:)
[02:56] <Schuenemann> k3b*
[02:57] <titanix88> i tried compiz fusion. it's great.
[02:57] <wepiha> Schuenemann: yes, as per !info libk3b2-mp3 above
[02:57] <Schuenemann> let me try
[02:59] <Schuenemann> wepiha, thanks
[02:59] <wepiha> np
[02:59] <titanix88> blueskaj how r u going & others? Long time no see as i'm off home for my graduation.
[03:01] <BluesKaj> congrats , titanix ...I'm fine thx
[03:03] <|titanix|> blueskaj: Thx but no big deal it's not abt linux(or at least computers:( it's boring mechanical engineering:((((((((((((
[03:04] <BluesKaj> mechanical engineering isn't boring
[03:05] <|titanix|> Blueskaj: let's go offtopic or they will come and get us(u know i what i mean:)))
[03:05] <rami> it almost got right
[03:05] <kjellviz> hi again, ive found some very important info regarding my issue
[03:05] <rami> i realized now
[03:05] <kjellviz> its not related to the nvidia driver at all
[03:06] <rami> now i have an annoying thing calles kasbar and not the original taskbar
[03:06] <kjellviz> theres something in the updates that messes up my bluetooth keyboard
[03:07] <rami> i need the original taskbar
[03:08] <|titanix|> hey Blueskaj come on...i can show u thousand reasons for why i dislike it ;)
[03:10] <Schuenemann> hey, how do I create a video DVD using k3b? I create a DVD video project, then there are 2 folders: AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS? What do I have to do?
[03:12] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, choose dvd video project, open file navigate to the VideoTS, and click open
[03:12] <Schuenemann> and I put the video file there?
[03:13] <Schuenemann> I have an AVI
[03:13] <Schuenemann> I want my dvd player to open it
[03:13] <BluesKaj> nope avi won't work
[03:13] <Schuenemann> MPEG?
[03:13] <BluesKaj> use the VIDEO_TS
[03:13] <|titanix|> hey am i in #kubuntu when i am using a xp pc(but with gpl irc client kvirc) :?!!??
[03:13] <Schuenemann> what do you mean by 'use'?
[03:14] <BluesKaj> itwill take the audio with it , or it should
[03:14] <Schuenemann> I just have to copy the mpeg there?
[03:14] <BluesKaj> !VIDEO_TS
[03:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about video_ts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:15] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, do you have a RW dvd ?
[03:15] <Schuenemann> yes
[03:15] <Schuenemann> but I don't have any mpeg... sigh
[03:15] <BluesKaj> try  VIDEO_TS on it , you'll see
[03:15] <Schuenemann> I copied the AVI there, nothing happened
[03:16] <BluesKaj> don't worry about mpeg , VIDEO_TS is the file you want to burn
[03:16] <|titanix|> Blueskaj: VIDEO_TS contains some .ifo and some .vob
[03:16] <Schuenemann> I don't get it
[03:16] <Schuenemann> VIDEO_TS is just a folder, how am I supposed to 'use' it?
[03:17] <BluesKaj> |titanix|, k3b will ignore the files it doesn't need
[03:17] <kjellviz> is it possible to rollback updates i installed some minutes ago ?
[03:17] <BluesKaj> the info inside the folder will be burned as a video
[03:17] <Schuenemann> let me explain: I have a video file and I want it on my dvd player
[03:17] <Schuenemann> my ordinary DVD player
[03:18] <BluesKaj> beleive me Schuenemann , it should wor , ive burned VIDEO_TS files many times
[03:18] <BluesKaj> work
[03:18] <Schuenemann> what should work?
[03:18] <Schuenemann> what is a VIDEO_TS file?
[03:19] <|titanix|> Schuenemann: u got an ordinary video not a .vob right?
[03:19] <Schuenemann> yes, an AVI
[03:19] <BluesKaj> it's a file ready for burning, usually converted from avi
[03:20] <Briareos1> does anyone know if the joystick "hotas cougar" from thrustmaster works in linux - and if: how well? maybe somebody knows a source where i can check that ....
[03:20] <Schuenemann> I just have the avi
[03:21] <BluesKaj> oh I see what he did , he created an empty VIDEO_TS file starting a new project...start over Schuenemann ...you have to use the mpeg
[03:21] <Schuenemann> heh... that was my first message
[03:22] <Schuenemann> ok, let's start over
[03:22] <|titanix|> Blueskaj: remember u said once that u overlook the obvious ...he he he:)
[03:22] <BluesKaj> sorry Schuenemann, i thought you had a converted file which is VIDEO_TS
[03:23] <Schuenemann> k
[03:23] <BluesKaj> k3b won't burn avi files , they have to be converted to mpeg with devede or tovid
[03:24] <Schuenemann> do they have a GUI?
[03:24] <BluesKaj> devede does
[03:24] <Schuenemann> k
[03:24] <Schuenemann> well, I found an mpeg here
[03:24] <Schuenemann> I can try on it
[03:24] <BluesKaj> i beleive tovid has one now as well
[03:25] <|titanix|> Blueskaj:don't mind...just jokes(i like your helpful attitude anyway). Good bye...(looks like my roomate is coming & i'm using his pc:)
[03:25] <BluesKaj> it's always best to experiment with dvdrw first Schuenemann then one learns how to deal with various files
[03:25] <Schuenemann> sure
[03:26] <rami> my taskbas still isnt original
[03:26] <rami> now i have to browse things via alt+tab
[03:27] <Schuenemann> rami, open kcontrol and then desktop > taskbar
[03:28] <ubunturos> I'm a stuck up and not able to understand the manual. How do I create an executable if I have compiled a C file that generates a .o (object code)?
[03:29] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, huh... so, I got the mpeg. How to convert it to that video_TS?
[03:29] <rami> then?
[03:30] <Schuenemann> rami, hmmm... I actually don't know your problem. I only know you want to do something with your taskbar
[03:30] <rami> i need to have the windows in the taskbar
[03:30] <flake> why is my trash icon not showing anything moved to my .Trash folder?
[03:31] <aaronjs> is the local wireless expert online at the moment.  :S  I'm trying to get an install to go down on a laptop.  Having issues.
[03:31] <flake> it only shows any desktop items deleted
[03:31] <Schuenemann> rami, and what do you have now?
[03:32] <rami> the kmenu the system menu show desktop and the quickstart thing
[03:32] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, don't worry about VIDEO_TS for the moment , it's not the only filetype that k3b can handle , just get devede or tovid to convert the avi file for you
[03:33] <BluesKaj> devede or tovid will convert the file and burn it as well if you wish ...no need to worry about k3b
[03:33] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, I already have devede... how to convert it?
[03:33] <Schuenemann> rami, right-click it, then add new panel
[03:34] <rami> then?
[03:34] <Schuenemann> then taskbar?
[03:34] <rami> its only external
[03:35] <BluesKaj> open devede and click on file , navigate to the avi file , the rest should be easy , altho i haven't used devede in a while
[03:36] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, there is no 'file', only 4 options: video dvd, VCD, SVCD and CVD
[03:36] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, there is a manual
[03:37] <Schuenemann> where?
[03:37] <BluesKaj> man devede , in the konsole
[03:38] <xexu1974> hola
[03:38] <rami> i'm starting to get angreehhh!
[03:38] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, heh... the manual has only 1 page
[03:41] <kuukkeli> BEWARE OF THE VIAGRABEARS WHAT WILL RAPE YOU!
[03:41] <Gote> german
[03:41] <pag> !de | Gote
[03:41] <ubotu> Gote: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:41] <Timsen> hi, I am looking for the gethostip command for ubuntu, can somebody tell me the package name?
[03:41] <rami> i still dont have the original taskbar
[03:41] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, can we just convert my mpeg to VIDEO_TS? I'll figure out avi>mpeg later
[03:42] <pag> !CoC | kuukkeli
[03:42] <ubotu> kuukkeli: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[03:42] <pag> Timsen, sudo apt-get install syslinux
[03:43] <BluesKaj> k3b will burn mpeg , VIDEO_TS is just a carrier for burnable files that reside inside it
[03:43] <rami> help!!!!!!!!
[03:43] <kourosh> Hello room, does anybody know how to install Moneydance on Kubuntu?
[03:43] <Schuenemann> and how to create the dvd? What project is it?
[03:44] <BluesKaj> you have to open k3b  and navigate to the mpeg file from there
[03:45] <Schuenemann> then just burn?
[03:46] <BluesKaj> is it in the k3b list?
[03:46] <Schuenemann> yes
[03:46] <BluesKaj> then jus burn it
[03:46] <Schuenemann> I opened it and a project was created
[03:46] <Timsen> thanks pag!
[03:46] <Schuenemann> this is not SVCD, is it?
[03:46] <rami> I NEED THE ORIGINAL TASKBAR!!(DESPERATE)
[03:48] <pclip> can i have a blank root password as i have ubuntu on a virtual machine?
[03:49] <starn> !mouse
[03:49] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[03:49] <chaotic> do u guys kno how to extract multirars  files ark woont  work  and unrar-free is installed
[03:49] <starn> !invisable mouse
[03:49] <starn> dang
[03:50] <starn> i changed my res and now my mouse well nto show
[03:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about invisable mouse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:50] <starn> its there but it well not show :(
[03:51] <rami> !taskbar
[03:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about taskbar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:51] <Kjellviz> aight
[03:51] <starn> hmm maybe that fixed
[03:51] <Kjellviz> there was something in the updates that broke the connection to my bluetooth keyboard
[03:51] <Kjellviz> does anyone have a idea for a solution, or maybe can tell me how to rollback the update
[03:52] <Kjellviz> there where some 80 updates applied (fresh install of kubuntu)
[03:52] <Schuenemann> rami, right-click > add mini-application
[03:56] <starn> !xorg
[03:56] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:56] <rami> TYTYTYTYTYTYTYTY!
[03:58] <waylandbill> Kjellviz: /var/log/dpkg.log may be of help. It'll at least tell what you need to rollback.
[03:58] <Kjellviz> ok, how do i identify what needs to be rolled back ?
[03:59] <waylandbill> Kjellviz: if you used aptitude it would've given more info in the log like what version was replaced and stuff, but I'm figuring you used adept or apt-get.
[04:00] <waylandbill> As for what to roll back, look at the time stamps. You know when you upgraded I'm assuming
[04:01] <chaotic> how do i change the kubuntu     them  its all blue and white
[04:01] <k31th> has anyone had any luck with KVpnc ?
[04:01] <chaotic> i wanna make it black
[04:02] <Kjellviz> waylandbill: well dunno what i used, there was an icon in systray telling me there where updates avail, thats what i used
[04:02] <Kjellviz> waylandbill: also, all updates where done at the same time today, its a fresh installation of kubuntu
[04:02] <Kjellviz> and, there where 80 updates
[04:03] <BluesKaj> Kjellviz, you used the adept updater
[04:03] <Kjellviz> ok
[04:04] <Kjellviz> so not aptitude anyways
[04:04] <BluesKaj> no
[04:05] <Kjellviz> ok im reinstalling all bluetooth packages
[04:05] <BluesKaj> aptitude doesn't reside in the panel by default
[04:05] <Kjellviz> so i need to restart to be sure they are unloaded etc, will be back in a min or so
[04:06] <starn> when it says to put this Option "UseEdidFreqs" "false" by screen what dose it mean?
[04:07] <arun> hello people
[04:07] <Raul> hi... since a week and two days I'm having problems with fresh install of Kubuntu feisty in a Asus M2N-MX. currently I have an unstable ethernet connection, no sound, no dev created for the keyUSB pendrive. The M2N-MX use Nvidia MCP61 chipset. The modprobe shows that for the eth0 the module forcedeth is loaded (as in Nvidia web page indicates) and for sound the hda_intel. But still no sound (just the PCspeaker)
[04:08] <arun> Is anyone here Alex el Julio?
[04:09] <kuukkeli> fly to spain and ask there
[04:10] <arun> haha
[04:10] <kuukkeli> BEWARE OF THE VIAGRABEARS WHAT WILL RAPE YOU!
[04:10] <runlevelten> !prat | kuukkeli
[04:10] <chaotic> do u3 flash drives work with linux
[04:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about prat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:10] <arun> Firefox is very sluggish today for me, for some reason..
[04:10] <arun> I have to refresh pages twice to get them to open
[04:10] <kuukkeli> Try Konqueror
[04:11] <arun> yeah i did.. funny thing is firefox was working fine till yesterday
[04:11] <arun> what could have happened suddenly?
[04:11] <BluesKaj> arun, did yo do an update or add a plugin ?
[04:12] <runlevelten> arun: delete your cache...
[04:12] <BluesKaj> I used FF for many yrs ...now I'm trying Konq , slowly getting used to it's quirks but , i kinda like it
[04:13] <starn> !video res
[04:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about video res - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:13] <starn> !res
[04:13] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:14] <runlevelten> Type is rendered better by konqueror
[04:14] <arun> I deleted my cache, and I don't think I updated anything.
[04:16] <starn> dose this look right???
[04:16] <starn> Section "Screen"
[04:16] <starn>         Identifier      "Default Screen"
[04:16] <starn>         Device          "nVidia Corporation C51 [GeForce 6150 LE] "
[04:16] <starn>         Monitor         "DELL E197FP"
[04:16] <starn>         Defaultdepth    24
[04:16] <starn>         Option "UseEdidFreqs" "false"
[04:16] <starn>         SubSection "Display"
[04:16] <waylandbill> !paste
[04:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:17] <starn> waylandbill, should i repast? or not?
[04:17] <starn> anways dose it look right?
[04:18] <chaotic> how do u get  avast antivirus to run in tray
[04:18] <arun> Opera is working slow as well, don't know what's going on
[04:18] <chaotic> in terminal when i type avast it just starts scanning
[04:18] <arun> Konqueror opens pages fune
[04:18] <arun> fine*
[04:19] <BluesKaj> why worry about antivirus , chaotic
[04:19] <BluesKaj> !antivirus
[04:19] <ubotu> antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[04:19] <chaotic> avast  is pretty good
[04:19] <starn> !useedidfreqs
[04:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about useedidfreqs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:19] <chaotic> iits free too
[04:20] <chaotic> u mean theres not many viruses on linux
[04:20] <runlevelten> klamav if you want a "graphical AV app"
[04:20] <carlos> hello
[04:20] <carlos> lenguage spanish
[04:20] <chaotic> guess  ill just stick with avast
[04:21] <runlevelten> you have much more chance of a repo compromise than a "virus"
[04:21] <carlos> hola a todos soy nuevo en esto
[04:21] <chaotic> its just something i was used to in windows always having antivirus
[04:21] <t_maus> you can also look for rootkits ^^
[04:21] <BluesKaj> chaotic , unless your running a windows partition and you are writing to it you don't need an antivirus
[04:21] <carlos> de que hablan
[04:21] <chaotic> does linux get spyware
[04:21] <t_maus> no
[04:22] <chaotic> ah ok
[04:22] <carlos> mmmmmmmmmmm NOD32 is use
[04:22] <runlevelten> chaotic, I can write you a program that just sits in your system tray and wastes CPU and memory and thrashes the disk for you, if you want...
[04:22] <runlevelten> you can even pay me 20 bucks for it if you want xD
[04:22] <chaotic> lol
[04:22] <carlos> chaotic hablas espaol por lo que veo
[04:22] <Kjellviz> waylandbill: ok, ive tried reinstalling the bluetooth packages, and no resolution so far
[04:22] <chaotic> si
[04:23] <BluesKaj> I'l try one more time ...maybe this time he'll get the message
[04:23] <carlos> que bueno mis conocimientos de ingles son escasos me se los codigos por que debo saberlos
[04:23] <BluesKaj> !antivirus | chaotic
[04:23] <ubotu> chaotic: antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[04:23] <runlevelten> don't need antivirus, don't need anti spyware, don't need defrag
[04:23] <jhutchins> !es | carlos
[04:23] <ubotu> carlos: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:23] <runlevelten> DO NEED to avoid installing untrusted apps or adding untrusted repositories.
[04:23] <waylandbill> chaotic: keep in mind that if you use packages or programs from untrusted sources as root, you could still run into trouble, but you shouldn't need to worry about viruses as long as you keep security in mind.
[04:23] <runlevelten> Those are worse than anything.
[04:23] <carlos> muchas gracias ubotu te agradezco la info
[04:24] <waylandbill> Kjellviz: you probably want to go back a version, not reinstall the current version.
[04:24] <chaotic> i got avast  from .deb
[04:24] <chaotic> from avast.com
[04:24] <carlos> bye
[04:24] <Kjellviz> waylandbill: hmm ok.
[04:25] <Kjellviz> well i could just reinstall kubuntu again, and NOT run updates ^^
[04:25] <Kjellviz> but seeing there is 80 updates
[04:25] <Kjellviz> and 1 making trouble (probably)
[04:25] <Kjellviz> theres 79 updates id like to have =\
[04:25] <runlevelten> did you find a bug?
[04:25] <jhutchins> !pin | Kjellviz
[04:25] <ubotu> Kjellviz: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[04:26] <BluesKaj> Kjellviz, updates aren't necessarily better .. :P
[04:26] <jhutchins> Kjellviz: You can roll back that one package.
[04:26] <Kjellviz> i have no idea what package caused the issue
[04:26] <waylandbill> aptitude and synaptic support going back in versions rather easily.
[04:26] <jhutchins> Kjellviz: Which is what, you updated and bluetooth stopped working?
[04:26] <Kjellviz> and i was using adept ><
[04:27] <Kjellviz> jhutchins: exactly
[04:27] <arun> ok now my internet speed is slow for all browsers, gah
[04:27] <Kjellviz> a fresh install of kubuntu
[04:27] <Kjellviz> ran the updates
[04:27] <jhutchins> k, probably the bluetooth modules then.
[04:27] <Kjellviz> and my bluetooth keyboard stopped working
[04:27] <jhutchins> arun: ipv6 enabled?
[04:27] <waylandbill> Kjellviz: it's possible that then next update may fix it. You might want to submit a bug report.
[04:27] <Kjellviz> when i restart bluetooth i get this error:
[04:27] <Kjellviz> failed to connecto to the SDP server
[04:28] <chaotic> is  there anyway to hide programs  u have open on desktop1 when u r on desktop 2
[04:28] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, hey, I tried what you suggested... open the mpeg inside k3b, but that generates a CD project
[04:28] <Kjellviz> waylandbill: submit a bug report, where how but not why
[04:29] <waylandbill> !bug
[04:29] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[04:29] <starn> !nvidia
[04:29] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:30] <starn> !.run
[04:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about run - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:30] <starn> :\
[04:30] <chaotic> i heard linux has a built in firewall
[04:30] <Kjellviz> chaotic: yes, rightclick the taskbar and choose Configure Panel
[04:30] <chaotic> i dont have router
[04:30] <arun> jhutchins: i don't know
[04:30] <Kjellviz> choose taskbar on the left, and unclick the "show windows from all desktops"
[04:30] <tapas> chaotic: well, do you have any services running which ar visible from the otside?
[04:30] <waylandbill> chaotic: just a cable/dsl modem without a built in firewall?
[04:30] <carlos> hello please help spanish what not ubuntu.es, kubuntu.es
[04:30] <tapas> chaotic: if not, you don't need a firewall
[04:31] <tapas> !spanish
[04:31] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:31] <runlevelten> !klingon
[04:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about klingon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:31] <carlos> no hay nadien
[04:31] <Schuenemann>  /join #kubuntu-es
[04:31] <waylandbill> there are sites to check if you have open server ports if you are not sure.
[04:32] <tapas> carlos: or just run nmap localhost :)
[04:32] <carlos> ok
[04:32] <simon_> hello, i just buyed a sound system "ex-d5e jvc" this micro system can directly connect to the pc wireless via usb stick. in win xp you do not have to isntall any driver. does anybody know how to use this usb stick via linux.
[04:32] <Kjellviz> ok so i can submit a bug report
[04:32] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, you can always open k3b and choose dvd project
[04:32] <Kjellviz> but how do i solve my problem ?
[04:32] <tapas> carlos: but to answer your original question: yes linux comes with "built in" firewall
[04:33] <BluesKaj> if you want
[04:33] <arun> jhutchins: how do i check if i have ipv6 enabled?
[04:33] <simon_> i looked for any clues in the kernel configuration file, and "lsusb" lists the usb stick
[04:33] <tapas> carlos: have a look at the iptables docmentation.. most distros also come with a script to setup a simple firewall
[04:33] <jhutchins> !ipv6 | arun
[04:33] <ubotu> arun: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[04:33] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, but data or video one? As video, I'll have those VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS folders again
[04:33] <carlos> bye gracias tapas
[04:33] <runlevelten> plug it in and see....
[04:34] <jhutchins> arun: If you do sudo ifconfig in a console and it lists an IPv6 address, it's enabled.  That will cause slow DNS lookups when browsing
[04:34] <tapas> carlos: erm oops, some of those were meant for chaotic
[04:34] <tapas> chaotic: did yu read my last messages to carlos?
[04:34] <davf> When I plug in my bluetooth dongle I get a KDE Bluetooth Framework error "Failed to connect to the SDP server" can anyone help me please?
[04:34] <Kjellviz> davf: ive got the same issue
[04:35] <runlevelten> did you upgrade bluetooth?
[04:35] <Kjellviz> it started after i downloaded updates
[04:35] <BluesKaj> don't worry , just choose the mpeg file you want burn Schuenemann
[04:35] <davf> I'm using Feisty.
[04:35] <arun> jhutchins: i see an inet6 address. i just typed ip a | grep inet6, it outputs some stuff
[04:35] <davf> runlevelten Any ideas?
[04:36] <chaotic> how do i know if im using fiesty or what
[04:36] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, sorry for sounding dumb, but this isn't very clear for me. Is it data or video project?
[04:36] <jhutchins> arun: Follow the directions at that URL then.
[04:36] <runlevelten> yeah. Kbluetoothd has issues sometimes after new releases - you need to report it as a bug
[04:36] <BluesKaj> video
[04:36] <Kjellviz> runlevelten: but reporting it as a bug does not fix it today
[04:36] <davf> runlevelten hmmm.... Any OTHER ideas ;)
[04:36] <Kjellviz> runlevelten: how do i rollback the update ?
[04:37] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, and I copy the mpeg to the root of the project? or to VIDEO_TS?
[04:37] <runlevelten> No, you can fix it today after you've reported the bug, potentially saving lots of other people suffering it -  OBVIOUSLY.
[04:37] <BluesKaj> mpeg=video
[04:37] <arun> jhutchins: it was working fine some time ago, my ISP says they havent changed anything
[04:37] <Kjellviz> yes, of course
[04:37] <arun> jhutchins: can disabling ipv6 cause any problems?
[04:37] <Kjellviz> but as long as i still have a problem
[04:37] <Kjellviz> i focus my time on fixing the problem
[04:37] <runlevelten> Kjellviz: to roll back the update - do you know which package it was?
[04:37] <davf> If I open a terminal and run sudo hcid -s that brings up the device but then I have a problem with pairing.
[04:38] <jhutchins> arun: Not unless you know you are on an ipv6 network - and you would know.
[04:38] <Kjellviz> instead of reporting a bug
[04:38] <runlevelten> did you have a bluez update or a kbluetooth update?
[04:38] <davf> just for grins Kjellviz. Try that. from cmd line type sudo hcid -s
[04:38] <Kjellviz> runlevelten: no not exactly what package, the updater downloaded 80 packages in total
[04:38] <davf> Then try pairing
[04:38] <arun> jhutchins: can i enable it later if need be? why would it suddenly cause problems?
[04:38] <k31th> yo.
[04:39] <davf> Kjellviz ,I want to know if you get the same problem I do. An error from kbluetooth saying pairing not allowed.
[04:39] <Kjellviz> what do you use to pair ?
[04:39] <runlevelten> Kjellviz: let me have a look and see then :)
[04:39] <jhutchins> arun: Yes, of course, just reverse what you did to disable it.
[04:40] <jhutchins> arun: It causes problems because the DNS lookups see that it is available and try it first, they don't try ipv4 until it times out.
[04:40] <davf> Kjellviz, your mobile phone?
[04:40] <Kjellviz> no im using a bluetooth keyboard
[04:40] <arun> jhutchins: but is this kind of behaviour usual? it was working fine some time ago
[04:40] <arun> (sorry if i'm asking too many questions)
[04:40] <jhutchins> arun: If your system was running
[04:40] <davf> Ok... well see if that command allows you to use your kbd.
[04:41] <jhutchins> arun: Sorry.  It may be that something else went wrong, but having it enabled will slow down web browsing.
[04:41] <Kjellviz> the command runs without errors
[04:41] <Kjellviz> but still cant use keyboard
[04:41] <arun> jhutchins: thanks, i'll disable it. do i need to restart the computer, or will restarting x do?
[04:41] <davf> Is the dongle flashing like it came alive?
[04:41] <Kjellviz> have no dongle
[04:41] <Kjellviz> its builtin
[04:41] <k31th> anyone VPN from KDE to work using PPTP ?
[04:41] <Kjellviz> im on a laptop
[04:41] <davf> mmmm.
[04:42] <jhutchins> arun: The page will tell you to disable a couple of modules. I don't recall if removing them works, you can try sudo rmmod ipv6
[04:42] <jhutchins> arun: If not, you will have to restart.
[04:42] <davf> don't you get a flashing blue light on your laptop when the bt is enabled?
[04:42] <chaotic> u guys have no idea how many times installed a distro of linux for a day then went back to windows  it was always somnething
[04:43] <Kjellviz> i get a solid blue light when its enabled
[04:43] <chaotic> i couldnt use a belkin wifi  card
[04:43] <Kjellviz> and its been shining all along
[04:43] <Kjellviz> chaotic: been there, done that
[04:43] <runlevelten> chaotic: same, other way around - Last time was when I got oblivion.
[04:44] <Kjellviz> chaotic: now try go use Vista, and youll be back here in less than 2 weeks
[04:44] <davf> chaotic, that's because you need the firmware.
[04:44] <dr_willis> Vista is....well..i have yet to find anything good about vista.. :)
[04:44] <dr_willis> heh
[04:44] <ardchoille> lol
[04:44] <MaTiAz> dr_willis: Aero?
[04:44] <Kjellviz> it looks nice
[04:44] <MaTiAz> But of course Beryl beats it :)
[04:44] <Kjellviz> thats bout it ><
[04:44] <Kjellviz> indeed
[04:44] <dr_willis> Kjellviz,  i dont even find it looking that nice.
[04:44] <runlevelten> I couldn't stand how much trouble it was to install stuff, and having to get all the drivers from CDs or the internet, and not  having an office suite and stuff, then spending 20-80% of my system resources
[04:44] <davf> chaotic, problem is usually related to the megga money hungry, greedy patent pigs!!
[04:44] <chaotic> how much ram do u need to run beryl
[04:45] <runlevelten> on spyware, viruses, the heavily latent slow firewall, etc.
[04:45] <Kjellviz> ive seen it run on 512 without hickups
[04:45] <starn> in kunbuntu how do i chang display settings when monitor and display manager stop working or how do i make it work agen?
[04:45] <chaotic> belkin doesnt release linux drivers
[04:45] <runlevelten> So I came back to GNU/Linux, which isn't broken and crap \o/
[04:45] <davf> What do you install when you can't get something to work in Windows! Oh yea, go and buy other hardware. True isn't it.!
[04:45] <MaTiAz> I love the repository concept of GNU/Linux :)
[04:45] <runlevelten> yep.
[04:45] <Kjellviz> runlevelten: i think ill just reinstall kubuntu and NOT install the updates
[04:45] <davf> chaotic, you need to use firmware cutter.
[04:45] <MaTiAz> So much easier than tracking down stuff in the internet :P
[04:46] <Kjellviz> seems to be the fastest and easiest way around this problem atm
[04:46] <chaotic> ndiswrapper  dowks sometimes but mostly not
[04:46] <runlevelten> Kjellviz: it's the slowest and hardest way around the problem
[04:46] <chaotic> mt works
[04:46] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, it says 'the project does not have the necessary files to create a DVD video'
[04:46] <runlevelten> and will give you 100x more problems
[04:46] <davf> true
[04:46] <ardchoille> I like the fact that I have a PII, 128mb ram and I run a live cd on it to surf the web and do email :)
[04:46] <Kjellviz> why is that ?
[04:46] <BluesKaj> Kjellviz, once reinstalled just delete the adept updater ,it's a PITA for most ppl anyway
[04:47] <Kjellviz> hehe sounds like a good idea ><
[04:47] <davf> you just need the firmway from the windows driver because it's licensed.
[04:47] <runlevelten> erm, because you will get rooted very quickly if you don't install updates to stuff like graphics libs
[04:47] <chaotic> i rather use apt-cache search than the add/remove programs
[04:47] <runlevelten> that's one of the most popular ways to crack nix desktops at the moment.
[04:47] <waylandbill> when I first converted to linux, I kept jumping back to windows because I thought I couldn't do something in linux. It was just that I needed to do the task a different way, and once I learned that new way, it ended up being a better way to do it. Eventually, I didn't need to use windows at all.
[04:47] <runlevelten> anyway, what you need to do is this:
[04:47] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, then you have to transcode that mpeg file too
[04:47] <Schuenemann> transcode to VIDEO_TS?
[04:48] <Dragon_1212> yo
[04:48] <Dragon_1212> hi all
[04:48] <runlevelten> find out what package you updates that stuffed up pairing (bluepin? bluetooth? kdebluetooth?), then choose to install the last version
[04:48] <runlevelten> then pin it
[04:48] <davf> pin it?
[04:48] <dr_willis> 'learning to ask the proper question, is step 1 in the zen of linux' :)
[04:48] <runlevelten> !pin
[04:48] <MaTiAz> :)
[04:48] <ubotu> pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[04:48] <chaotic> whats better ace  or 7zip
[04:48] <waylandbill> or tell aptitude to put a hold on it.
[04:49] <chaotic> can 7zip do multirars
[04:49] <BluesKaj> no, Schuenemann , that'll be automatic when you transcode to dvd video aak mpeg or xml depending which utility you use
[04:49] <davf> thx
[04:49] <Kjellviz> runlevelten: sounds real easy
[04:49] <BluesKaj> aka mpeg
[04:49] <starn> in kunbuntu how do i chang display settings when monitor and display manager stop working or how do i make it work agen?
[04:49] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, I converted using devede, it outputted a mpeg and xml
[04:49] <Kjellviz> runlevelten: except i havent got a slightest idea on where to find out what package caused the issue
[04:50] <Kjellviz> runlevelten: not even where to find out what packages where installed
[04:50] <davf> Kjellviz what v of Kubuntu?
[04:50] <mendred> starn: can u clairfy.. are u saying that X crashes?
[04:51] <waylandbill> starn: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  (I think I have that right  ;)
[04:51] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, use devede to burn it as well then , it may default to k3b as it's burning utility ...not quite sure
[04:51] <chaotic> # scanned files:        30873
[04:51] <chaotic> # scanned directories:  1547
[04:51] <chaotic> # infected files:       0
[04:51] <chaotic> # total file size:      10.9 GB
[04:51] <chaotic> # virus database:       000714-0 15.02.2007
[04:51] <chaotic> # test elapsed:         22m:40s 360ms
[04:51] <chaotic> avast gave me that
[04:51] <runlevelten> !pastebin | chaotic
[04:51] <ubotu> chaotic: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:51] <BluesKaj> !pastebin | chaotic
[04:51] <BluesKaj> oops
[04:51] <waylandbill> chaotic: it's saying it wasted 22m of your time?  :-D
[04:51] <arun> jhutchins: internet speed is much better now, thanks
[04:51] <starn> no x dont crash just that monitor and display manager well not work
[04:52] <BluesKaj> LOL waylandbill :)
[04:52] <mendred> starn
[04:52] <chaotic> well not really i didnt even notice it scanning didnt even notice resources it took up
[04:52] <starn> ?
[04:52] <Schuenemann> !windows | chaotic
[04:52] <ubotu> chaotic: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[04:52] <runlevelten> An even better virus scanner for your linux desktop is cappucino
[04:52] <mendred> starn: waylandbill's suggestion then..run it witha sudo
[04:52] <arun> haha nearest mental health institute
[04:53] <starn> ok
[04:53] <waylandbill> chaotic: I'm sure your hard drive noticed.
[04:53] <panigrc> hello can anyone help me with mesa installation ?
[04:53] <chaotic> all it did was scan it thru terminal
[04:53] <Kjellviz> davf: fiesty
[04:53] <panigrc> i am getting this error mach64_ioctl.c:190: error: drm_mach64_blit_t has no member named idx
[04:53] <panigrc> and don't know what to do
[04:54] <chaotic> i had to put konsole on my desktop i hated having to go thru thhhe start menu
[04:54] <chaotic> um what do linux people call the startmenu
[04:55] <jpatrick> chaotic: k-menu?
[04:55] <starn> ok i did the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg now what do i do in here?
[04:55] <chaotic> k menu   ah
[04:55] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, oh great... devede crashed and my mpeg is gone
[04:55] <davf> chaotic that's the beauty of linux. It can be whatever app you want! kmenu gnome other wm etc!!!
[04:55] <dr_willis> The LunchMenu
[04:55] <dr_willis> and the Desktop is the COunterTop.
[04:55] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, bummer ...but that's why i use tovid
[04:55] <dr_willis> THe Cd burner is the 'stove' :)
[04:55] <davf> dr_willis or BreakfastMenu?
[04:56] <davf> ;)
[04:56] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, which repository has tovid?
[04:56] <dr_willis> THe CounterTop is where you store stuff.. the "little box's are where you keep your recipes"
[04:56] <dr_willis> :)
[04:56] <dr_willis> Tools are kept in the /Silverware/ drawer
[04:57] <Schuenemann> !tovid
[04:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tovid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:57] <dr_willis> To delete things you drag them to the Dishwasher. ;)
[04:57] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, for help jion #tovid..the guys there are very helpful there
[04:57] <BluesKaj> err repeat ...old age is setting in
[04:57] <chaotic> man i hate this i have to install xp
[04:58] <chaotic> for my sis
[04:58] <starn> should i use kernal fram buffer?
[04:58] <Schuenemann> chaotic, why?
[04:58] <chaotic> y cant people just learn linux
[04:58] <dr_willis> starn,  I always disable the Framebuffer.
[04:58] <chaotic> cuzz  thats all she knows
[04:58] <dr_willis> Install Kubuntu, tell her its the new "Visata2.0"
[04:58] <Schuenemann> who is she?
[04:59] <panigrc> has anyone installed mesa before ?
[04:59] <chaotic> a low end   windows user imagine linux lol
[04:59] <dr_willis> panigrc,  ive not ahd to mess with mesa in years. :)
[04:59] <starn> should i enable DBE and RECORD and  V4L?
[04:59] <starn> or leave dissabled?
[05:00] <arun> that Linux is not Windows article is quite nice, actually
[05:00] <dr_willis> starn,  are you going down the whole kernel options list? when in doubt.. keep the defaults.
[05:00] <runlevelten> Kjellviz: did you find out what packages yet?
[05:00] <starn> ok
[05:00] <dr_willis> starn,  that will save a LOT of time in here.. :) with us getting asked about every *#$&@&@ oddball kernel optuion. :)
[05:00] <dr_willis> ive not had to mess with the kernel since ive started using Kubuntu
[05:00] <dr_willis> !kernel
[05:00] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[05:00] <erov> and remove the obvious stuff like HAM Radio support (unless you use that!!)
[05:01] <davf> !fix my bluetooth problems.
[05:01] <chaotic> well i got windows xp  performance edition to use less resources
[05:01] <Kjellviz> runlevelten: as i said, i dont know where too look
[05:01] <starn> now i just restart xserver?
[05:01] <Schuenemann> xp performance edition == brand new installation?
[05:01] <starn> if so how?
[05:01] <runlevelten> Kjellviz: paste this in a console and pastebin the output
[05:02] <runlevelten> for i in `dpkg --get-selections | grep blue`; do echo $i `sudo apt-cache show $i 2>/dev/null | grep Version`;done
[05:02] <celeste> whoa
[05:02] <erov> starn.. a kernel must be compiled, installed and configured as well
[05:02] <starn> ...
[05:02] <erov> did you read anything on doing this? the xserver doesnt have much to do with the kernel..
[05:02] <starn> ok now i am lost..
[05:03] <chaotic> hey how do iset an image on the internet as wallpaper
[05:03] <erov> "You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild"
[05:03] <starn> an bew to linux..
[05:03] <starn> am new*
[05:03] <erov> are you trying to custom compile a kernel?
[05:03] <Schuenemann> chaotic, right-click the desktop and configure desktop
[05:03] <starn> no
[05:03] <erov> oh i misunderstood
[05:03] <starn> trying to config screen res.
[05:03] <Kjellviz> runlevelten: it only shows that i tried reinstalling bluetooth after i got the problem
[05:03] <erov> im so sorry
[05:03] <starn> lol np
[05:03] <erov> thats my fault i misread the whole thing
[05:04] <runlevelten> No, it doesn't show that. Can you pastebin it please?
[05:04] <davf> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30011/
[05:05] <Kjellviz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30012/
[05:06] <runlevelten> I had no updates today. the only thing you both have that I don't is bluez-gnome..
[05:07] <davf> Only from something else I read of someone else. Didn't make the diff.
[05:07] <davf> I had the problem b4 that.
[05:07] <davf> runlevelten, versions are all the same?
[05:08] <runlevelten> okey dokey. Did you both have reasonably fresh installs, or only install bluetooth support recently?
[05:08] <runlevelten> yep, versions the same
[05:08] <chaotic> man these  admin   restrictions get annoying
[05:08] <davf> runlevelten, I originally had bt removed as I never used it. Just reinstalled about 1/2hr ago.
[05:09] <davf> chaotic, you sure do know the right button to push don't you lol.
[05:09] <chaotic> i cant put an img into wallpapers
[05:09] <runlevelten> lemme find a bluetooth device
[05:09] <runlevelten> :)
[05:09] <Kjellviz> runlevelten: my installaiton is all fresh
[05:09] <panigrc> can someone help me to find out to understand what this error means mach64_ioctl.c:190: error: drm_mach64_blit_t has no member named idx
[05:10] <Kjellviz> runlevelten: only thing ever done on it is running the updates
[05:10] <runlevelten> so that explains why you would both have 'updated' to current versions
[05:12] <celeste> chaotic, view the image using image viewer, then click on VIEW or one of the file menus and see, set as desktop
[05:12] <runlevelten> been a while since I used bluetooth on this machine, lemme try to get a worksforme
[05:12] <llp78> Is it possible to mount 2 locations to the same mount point?
[05:12] <davf> k
[05:12] <davf> brb
[05:13] <runlevelten> ok
[05:13] <dr_willis> Same Mount point NO...
[05:13] <dr_willis> there is that Overlay feature I recall.. but  cant rember how it works.
[05:13] <dr_willis> so that may be a 'posibially'  :)
[05:13] <celeste> for some reason my pics from images previously stored on windows dont show up when i right click on the desktop either
[05:13] <Kjellviz> runlevelten so how long you reckon one can run without updating ? :P
[05:13] <llp78> i have 2 folders on 2 harddrives i want merged into 1
[05:13] <celeste> use the partitioner
[05:13] <runlevelten> Kjellviz: I wouldn't do it at all.
[05:14] <dr_willis> llp78,  could just link one to be a subdir or an nother.
[05:14] <dr_willis> of another.
[05:14] <dr_willis> unless you want them truely merged.
[05:14] <llp78> nah i want the contents of both folder to show up in one directory
[05:14] <erov> chaotic: right click the desktop, go to Desktop Icon, select picture radio button.. then notice the blue folder to the right of the listbox? click it. then select the IMG you want as background
[05:15] <runlevelten> Kjellviz: can you right click kbluetoothd and tell me what rules you have there?
[05:15] <arun> I'm thinking of getting a Dell laptop soon. I was wondering if wifi works 'out of the box', or if I have to configure anything for it to work...
[05:15] <erov> if you want to put one into the "root" owned wallpaper directory.. just sudo cp whatever.jpg /whatever/dir/permissions/doenst/allow
[05:15] <runlevelten> Configure - > Services > Confirmation
[05:15] <dr_willis> !find union
[05:15] <ubotu> Found: unionfs-source, unionfs-tools, unionfs-utils
[05:15] <davf> bak
[05:16] <runlevelten> hi davf
[05:16] <dr_willis> aha. "Union" not overlay. is the name of the feature ive seen live cd's use
[05:16] <erov> im sorry, chaotic, right click then configure desktop, then desktop icon, then picture radio button... then blue folder to the right :)
[05:16] <dr_willis> !info unionfs-utils
[05:16] <ubotu> unionfs-utils: Transition package for unionfs-tools rename. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4+debian-3 (feisty), package size 40 kB, installed size 72 kB
[05:16] <Kjellviz> runlevelten: where am i supposed to find that ? in systray, menu etc ?
[05:16] <dr_willis> !info unionfs-tools
[05:16] <ubotu> unionfs-tools: Tools to manage unionfs filesystems. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4+debian-3 (feisty), package size 66 kB, installed size 152 kB
[05:16] <dr_willis> !unionfs
[05:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unionfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:16] <runlevelten> can you guys right cick the kbluetoothd icon, select configure -> configure services -> confirmation and tell me what rules are there?
[05:16] <davf> runlevelten, I think I missed something.
[05:16] <runlevelten> Kjellviz: system tray
[05:17] <Kjellviz> its not there
[05:17] <dr_willis> llp78,  check out the Unionfs stuff..  theres a 'fuse' module or 2 to use it also. i just noticed :)
[05:17] <runlevelten> if you don't have it, press ALT+F2 and type kbluetoothd
[05:17] <dr_willis> FunionFS is the aggregation of two filesystems: a read-only and a read-write one.
[05:17] <runlevelten> Right, it wouldn't pair but now it is.
[05:18] <k31th> Guys im having some trouble here getting my ressolution correct no my PC>
[05:18] <Kjellviz> kbemusedsrv
[05:18] <Kjellviz> sry wait
[05:18] <davf> What are we looking for in the systray?
[05:18] <k31th> I have a Nvidia Card and a Dell LCD panel 19"
[05:18] <runlevelten> davf, first you want to be running kbluetoothd
[05:18] <k31th> and my ress is stuck in 640
[05:18] <k31th> I can't up the ress any more.
[05:18] <runlevelten> run it through alt-f2
[05:19] <Kjellviz> kbemusedsrv, kbtobexsrv, kbtserialchat,   all 3 enabled
[05:19] <davf> says it runinng but I get this sdc error when I plug in the dongle.
[05:19] <k31th> It works fine in gnome using default ubuntu install.
[05:19] <runlevelten> yeah. you see the icon in the system tray?
[05:19] <runlevelten> right cick the kbluetoothd icon, select configure -> configure services -> confirmation and tell me what rules are there
[05:19] <Kjellviz> runlevelten: kbemusedsrv, kbtobexsrv, kbtserialchat,   all 3 enabled
[05:20] <davf> same
[05:20] <runlevelten> that's in the "Confirmation" tab, right
[05:20] <llp78> dr_willis: thanks for the tip on Unionfs..
[05:20] <runlevelten> not "Local services"
[05:21] <davf> I have nothing in the confirmation tab
[05:21] <runlevelten> excellent.
[05:21] <runlevelten> right, create a rule
[05:21] <Kjellviz> runlevelten: same here
[05:21] <runlevelten> leave it at              *         *          00:00:00:00:00     allow
[05:21] <davf> what should it say? default is * * ask
[05:21] <chaotic> how do i associate torrents  with ktorrent
[05:21] <runlevelten> change it to allow
[05:21] <k31th> Can anyone help at all ?
[05:21] <runlevelten> now click apply
[05:22] <Kjellviz> done
[05:22] <chaotic> where is exec at
[05:22] <davf> same
[05:22] <runlevelten> let's ok out of that and click the icon to open our bluetooth kioslave.
[05:22] <runlevelten> the kbtd icon
[05:22] <davf> kioslave?
[05:22] <runlevelten> folder
[05:22] <chaotic> need  to associate .torrent  to ktorrent
[05:22] <davf> got it.
[05:23] <runlevelten> right. See your device by name?
[05:23] <dr_willis> 'which ktorrent'
[05:23] <Kjellviz> yeps
[05:23] <runlevelten> ie not te dongle, the thing you're tryinf to connect to
[05:23] <davf> mac address and localhost.
[05:23] <runlevelten> click on that, you get
[05:23] <runlevelten> services listed on the device, yeah?
[05:23] <Kjellviz> retreving services
[05:23] <davf> getting an error pairing not allowed.
[05:24] <Kjellviz> yep got the services
[05:24] <starn> thank you every one whom was in part of helping me fix my res
[05:24] <runlevelten> right, first Kjellviz, you can probably pair now - you need to expect the KDE pin dialog to disappear beneath the other ones
[05:24] <runlevelten> just click on obex file transfer or whatever
[05:25] <starn> i i finaly am at my max monitors res and do not have to endure 800x600
[05:25] <Kjellviz> its a keyboard ><
[05:25] <k31th> Ill just put ubuntu back on then.
[05:25] <starn> i shale part now
[05:25] <runlevelten> davf: if you close out of that folder, can you delete any paired devices from kbluetoothd>paired devices, replug the dongle and try again?
[05:26] <davf> I don't have any paired devs.
[05:26] <runlevelten> kbluetoothd>configuration>paired
[05:26] <runlevelten> you don't?
[05:26] <runlevelten> what device is it?
[05:26] <davf> yes empty.
[05:26] <dr_willis> ubuntu and kubuntu use the  same X setup... Hmm..
[05:26] <davf> pda and a mobile phone.
[05:26] <dr_willis> k31th,  it may be your monitor is set wrong not the card.
[05:26] <runlevelten> have you deleted the paired devices from the phone/pda?
[05:26] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, now I got it working with devede, but it had no colors on tv
[05:26] <Kjellviz> runlevelten: i cant seem to pair, but im not 100% sure on how to do it
[05:26] <runlevelten> for the computer..
[05:27] <dr_willis> k31th,  could load the live cd see if it gets the res right, then copy its xorg.conf over to your home to compare to the other xorg.conf file
[05:27] <Schuenemann> weird... I set it to PAL/SECAM
[05:27] <davf> yes nothing paired, actually this is the first time I have tried this.
[05:28] <chaotic> nice associate firefox  torrents with ktorrent
[05:28] <davf> I don't have a link_key file on my hd anywhere.
[05:28] <chaotic> did it
[05:28] <chaotic> a little elbow grease and everything will be fine
[05:28] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, maybe the file was a black and white
[05:29] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, lol, nope
[05:29] <kraut> moin
[05:29] <BluesKaj> sorry, no idea
[05:29] <chaotic> i know someone yesterday said they couldnt associate fire torrents with ktorrnet
[05:29] <Schuenemann> and on the computer it has colors
[05:29] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, I'll try with NTSC... but I'm very sure the tv is PAL-N
[05:29] <dr_willis> i always just save my torrents to a Torrents dir. and set up ktorrent to auto/scan/load them
[05:29] <Schuenemann> PAL-M
[05:30] <runlevelten> argh bugger, I have to go. Sorry folks
[05:30] <Kjellviz> runlevelten: ok
[05:30] <Kjellviz> runlevelten: thanks for trying anyways
[05:30] <runlevelten> np, good luck with it :(
[05:30] <davf> k cya
[05:31] <davf> kjellviz I thought you were working now?
[05:31] <k31th> dr_willis: fixed it reconfgured xorg by hand
[05:31] <davf> You see the kbd?
[05:31] <Kjellviz> davf: no im not working yet
[05:32] <dr_willis> k31th,  :) A+
[05:32] <Kjellviz> i got the list with the device services
[05:32] <Kjellviz> but have no idea on how to pair ><
[05:32] <dr_willis> k31th,  i always keep archives of my old/working/otherdisrto xorg.conf files
[05:32] <davf> just click the kbd
[05:32] <dr_willis> its amazing how much different disrtos differ in their xorg.conf layouts
[05:32] <Kjellviz> i did
[05:32] <Kjellviz> and got the list of services
[05:32] <Kjellviz> but still not paired
[05:32] <Kjellviz> no errors either
[05:32] <davf> hmm...
[05:32] <k31th> dr_willis:  :D
[05:33] <Kjellviz> davf: dunno bout you, but im gonna reinstall kubuntu and just not download the updates until its been fixed
[05:33] <Kjellviz> davf: ill prob post a bugreport on it
[05:33] <Kjellviz> or try to scan through all the updates to see if i can find one thats likely to have caused it
[05:33] <davf> ok... good luck. but this should work.
[05:33] <Kjellviz> you got it working ?
[05:34] <davf> not yet
[05:34] <Kjellviz> ok
[05:34] <Kjellviz> well im new to linux
[05:34] <Kjellviz> ive got a brand new comp i havent gotten to use for real for almost a week
[05:34] <Kjellviz> and im puking on this problem atm ><
[05:34] <Kjellviz> so im picking the easy solution for now
[05:34] <davf> A piece of info. There has been a change in the way bt is handled has something to do with hcid.
[05:35] <Kjellviz> ok ?
[05:35] <davf> I am not versed in bt yet but I'm sure I will be once I get through this.
[05:35] <Kjellviz> hehe
[05:35] <Kjellviz> well i aint got time to tinker any longer
[05:35] <davf> you should be working though.
[05:35] <davf> ok cya.
[05:35] <Kjellviz> have a exam to study for ><
[05:35] <davf> good luk
[05:35] <Kjellviz> well i have no idea on how to pair devices even
[05:36] <Kjellviz> i followed runlevelten up to the part where we clicked the device
[05:36] <Kjellviz> got the services listed
[05:36] <Kjellviz> and there i am now
[05:36] <davf> you try clicking a service?
[05:37] <davf> I may have a cheap and dirty fix for you but it isn't secure.
[05:37] <Kjellviz> yep, it tries to save it like im downloading a file
[05:38] <Kjellviz> secure as in others might access my comp via blth ?
[05:38] <davf> in /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf
[05:38] <davf> if they are close enough.
[05:38] <Kjellviz> thats not gonna be a issue, its a stationary laptop ^^
[05:38] <davf> just as a test though. maybe try setting security auto to security none.
[05:38] <davf> in that file.
[05:40] <Kjellviz> yep?
[05:40] <Kjellviz> AHA OK
[05:40] <Kjellviz> lol ill test
[05:40] <davf> just a thought really, anyway, I'm gonna run.
[05:40] <arun> I'm thinking of getting a Dell laptop soon. I was wondering if wifi works 'out of the box', or if I have to configure anything for it to work...
[05:40] <davf> cay kjellviz
[05:40] <davf> cya
[05:40] <Kjellviz> you leaving ?
[05:41] <davf> yup
[05:41] <Kjellviz> ok
[05:41] <Kjellviz> thanks for the tip
[05:41] <tom_> Hi, im having some trouble with apt. It crashed installing a java plugin for firefox and now whenever i run it it thinks theres another pt proces running. How can i fix this?
[05:41] <Kjellviz> and good luck yourself =)
[05:41] <davf> ;)
[05:41] <Kjellviz> arun: that depends heavily on what model you choose and what wifi card it comes with
[05:42] <arun> Kjellviz: any recommended models?
[05:42] <arun> or wifi cards?
[05:42] <Kjellviz> arun: some models have the option of choosing wifi card, so try looking for one that has support
[05:42] <Kjellviz> arun: dunno, havent really looked into wireless cards on linux
[05:43] <Kjellviz> arun: i chose the XPS M1710 for other reasons than mobility :P
[05:43] <arun> :)
[05:43] <Kjellviz> havent tried the wifi yet
[05:43] <arun> i just want to know if it's easy to set up wifi on laptops
[05:44] <Kjellviz> infact ive even disabled it cos it gave me issues starting the livecd
[05:44] <Kjellviz> but thats a known issue with fiesty fawn, not the card itself ><
[05:44] <arun> i will be using different connections.. wifi at a client's office and ethernet at home
[05:44] <arun> so how easy is it to switch, etc
[05:44] <Kjellviz> i had no problems setting up xubuntu on my C610 using a pcmcia linksys card
[05:44] <Kjellviz> but i was in luck that my card worked
[05:45] <Kjellviz> have had other cards that made me wanna pull out every hair and nail on my body
[05:45] <Kjellviz> rather than trying to get them to work ><
[05:47] <Kjellviz> but im off
[05:47] <Kjellviz> cya later
[05:47] <Kjellviz> =)
[05:53] <melkor> I had a question about html aethstetics
[05:57] <faires> Hello, I've just installed a dapper drake version, and want to upgrade it to Feisty.
[05:58] <faires> I readed at www.kubuntu.org that I should first upgrade to Edgy, and it recommended me to use update manager
[05:59] <BluesKaj> faires, you'll have to upgrade to edfgy first then from edgy to feisty ...think i'd just DL feisty and reinstall, but that's your choice
[05:59] <BluesKaj> err edgy
[05:59] <faires> But update manager opens, say to me that there's an Edgy available, but when it starts to see if it's available, it simply close...
[06:00] <BluesKaj> yes, cuz there's no way to upgrade to feisty from dapper
[06:00] <BluesKaj> directly
[06:00] <t_maus> change your sources.list
[06:01] <t_maus> and type in the console apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:01] <t_maus> normally there should be no problem
[06:01] <t_maus> why do you want do upgrade von drapper to feisty
[06:01] <faires> BluesKaj: but is there any way to update to edgy using update manager
[06:01] <BluesKaj> t-maus that may break some apps ...it's not that easy
[06:01] <t_maus> which apps
[06:02] <erov> BluesKaj: it may break it initially.. but its never broken.. have done that since 5.10.. im now running gutsy current ;)
[06:02] <erov> 100% i might add..
[06:02] <erov> i wouldnt recommend it.. but it does work and is never totally irrecoverable
[06:03] <faires> t_maus: I want feisty because of KDE3.5
[06:03] <BluesKaj>  too many cooks here ...if you guys think he can jump a distro be my guest and help him do it ...i want no part in that kind of update
[06:03] <t_maus> does anybody know when the next realese of a long term support will come
[06:04] <aubade> t_maus: 8.04
[06:04] <wsjunior> where knetworkconf settings are stored?
[06:04] <aubade> Supposedly, it isn't concrete.
[06:04] <faires> t_maus: and I'm not used to work with debian-like linuxes, so I'm afraid to crap it out, and lose my last night's job... :)
[06:04] <t_maus> thx :)
[06:05] <faires> BluesKaj: is there any way of upgrading from dapper to edgy using Update Manager?
[06:05] <t_maus> @faires, ok is there no special line for sources.list that you can add so that drapper drake also have the new kde
[06:05] <BluesKaj> faires, not that i know of
[06:05] <faires> oh ... :(
[06:06] <faires> t_maus: sorry, I don't think I understood your phrase... :(
[06:06] <t_maus> @faires  wait a second
[06:06] <BluesKaj> there maybe one in update manager ..I ve just never done it, faires
[06:07] <vviz\lappy> Having some problems. Bought myself a Vaio laptop with a blu-ray writer. The install recognizes the drive, and lets me install the system. But after install, the system does not recognize my cdrom anymore (/dev/hda). Anyone with similiar problems?
[06:07] <vviz\lappy> Worked fine with Gentoo
[06:07] <yotux> are the md5sums different for torrents compared to downloads?
[06:08] <vviz\lappy> It's the only pata-drive in the sytem. All SATA (internal and external) is recognized fine.
[06:08] <erov> ok.. wanna update? "cd /etc/apt ; sudo nano sources.list ; ^W ^R dapper with edgy ^X Y ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"  that's erov's way but i also stay barefoot, take baths every other day and drive till my cars on E, play the bango and permantly missing one tooth with more to follow.. :) j/k thats if you want to grow hair on your chest, faires
[06:10] <faires> erov: hehehehe, thanks, but I still prefer to try first the chicken's way... :)
[06:11] <wsjunior> where knetworkconf settings are stored?
[06:13] <stephen> yo
[06:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Hello All... HOw do I change themes in Kubuntu..
[06:16] <stephen_> thats easy
[06:16] <stephen_> i only got linux last night
[06:16] <stephen_> and i know
[06:17] <stephen_> go to the start menu
[06:17] <stephen_> and system setting
[06:17] <stephen_> then click on appearance
[06:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Do I just drop the tar file onto the manager linke in ubuntu?
[06:18] <stephen_> i dunno bout that
[06:18] <stephen_> i dunno what a tar is
[06:18] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[06:18] <Jack_Sparrow> I wanted to add a theme I got from kde-look.org
[06:19] <faires> erov BluesKaj t_maus: thanks a lot for the help. I'll try something else here, and, if it all fails, I'll try the [nice|toughe] r way... :)
[06:20] <stephen_> look on that site for a tutorial
[06:20] <stephen_> do you knoow how to install apps?
[06:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Yes
[06:20] <stephen_> if you help me
[06:20] <stephen_> i will search with you
[06:20] <stephen_> i need to install rar
[06:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Not necessary...
[06:20] <stephen_> lol
[06:20] <stephen_> :(
[06:21] <Jack_Sparrow> LEt me get you going on installing apps
[06:21] <stephen_> ill help you too
[06:21] <Jack_Sparrow> click on add remove progs..
[06:21] <Jack_Sparrow> enter your password
[06:21] <stephen_> done
[06:22] <Jack_Sparrow> adept will come up
[06:22] <stephen_> yes ^^
[06:22] <Jack_Sparrow> in search try ksudoku
[06:22] <Jack_Sparrow> just as an example
[06:23] <stephen_> no results :(
[06:23] <Jack_Sparrow> actually that is already installed
[06:23] <Jack_Sparrow> check your spelling
[06:23] <Jack_Sparrow> it came up here
[06:24] <stephen_> says applications/games
[06:24] <Jack_Sparrow> you might need to enable some repositories
[06:24] <stephen_> i dunno how :(
[06:24] <Jack_Sparrow> search for chess
[06:24] <Jack_Sparrow> see what comes up..
[06:24] <Jack_Sparrow> I dont use KDE wm much.. I am more of a gnome person
[06:24] <stephen_> xboard
[06:25] <stephen_> but its greyed out
[06:25] <Jack_Sparrow> every other line is a different color.. try to select it
[06:26] <stephen_> it keeps crashing
[06:26] <stephen_> lol
[06:26] <Jack_Sparrow> sorry I cant be more help.. like I said I use Ubuntu.. aka Gnome..
[06:27] <stephen_> im using kubuntu
[06:27] <Jack_Sparrow> I was just looking at KDE to show my niece something with the theme
[06:28] <stephen_> hmmm
[06:28] <stephen_> i just updated my kubuntu
[06:28] <Jack_Sparrow> someone will be around that can help you
[06:28] <stephen_> but it still crashes in some apps
[06:28] <stephen_> :(
[06:28] <stephen_> ok
[06:28] <stephen_> thx for trying mate
[06:28] <Jack_Sparrow> I prefer fresh installs to upgrades..
[06:28] <stephen_> is ubuntu easier?
[06:29] <k31th> hum kde feels less complete than gnome ?
[06:29] <Jack_Sparrow> I use apt-get or synaptic for most of my software changes
[06:29] <Jack_Sparrow> KDE feels more like windows..
[06:29] <stephen_> lol
[06:29] <k31th> ?
[06:29] <stephen_> ill download ubuntu then
[06:29] <Jack_Sparrow> It took a little bit longer for me to get comfortable with gnome.. but now I love it
[06:29] <Jack_Sparrow> one sec..
[06:30] <k31th> how on earth does kde feel like windows
[06:30] <stephen_> i dont like the kde font
[06:30] <Jack_Sparrow> you can add ubuntu-desktop
[06:30] <Jack_Sparrow> and switch between window managers at your login prompt
[06:30] <BluesKaj> Jack_Sparrow, go promote gnome elsewhere , this is KDE country :)
[06:30] <stephen_> is there a windows emulator?
[06:30] <Jack_Sparrow> you can try in terminal  apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:31] <Jack_Sparrow> blue... then help him.
[06:31] <BluesKaj> just got back from errands
[06:31] <stephen_> you can help me ?
[06:31] <Jack_Sparrow> I wantn't looking to promote either..
[06:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Dosent sound like it
[06:32] <BluesKaj> the guy comes into the expecting help with Kubuntu not ubuntu...what's the trouble stephen_ ?
[06:33] <stephen_> i need to install rar and java
[06:33] <stephen_> im not sure about how to since i only installed kubuntu yesterday night
[06:33] <runlevelten> KDE feels more like windows?! Are you smoking drugs?
[06:33] <stephen_> be nice to him lol he tryed to help
[06:35] <stephen_> can someone direct me to a tutorial to install java and rar
[06:35] <stephen_> please
[06:35] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !java
[06:35] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[06:35] <BluesKaj> open adept and type unrar, stephen_
[06:36] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !info unrar
[06:36] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.7.3-1 (feisty), package size 94 kB, installed size 228 kB
[06:36] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> BluesKaj: That won't help if he doesn't have multiverse enabled.
[06:36] <stephen_> no results for unrar
[06:36] <BluesKaj> right
[06:37] <stephen_> i need to enable multiverse
[06:37] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !multiverse
[06:37] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:37] <stephen_> but dunno how
[06:37] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> what ubotu just put up will help.
[06:37] <stephen_> i looked at that earlier
[06:38] <stephen_> and was confused
[06:38] <stephen_> lol
[06:38] <BluesKaj> ok , best way is to edit the sources.list stephen_ .alt+f2 type 'kdesu /etc/apt/sources.list'
[06:39] <chaotic> hey
[06:39] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> hey chaotic.
[06:39] <runlevelten> hi chaotic :)
[06:39] <chaotic> yyeah    i   just installed xp  on a free  partition
[06:39] <chaotic> hmmmm
[06:39] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> ...
[06:39] <Ace2016> BluesKaj: sure about that?
[06:40] <BluesKaj> now we are going to delete the # infront of lines the begin with .deb
[06:40] <runlevelten> chaotic: Oh, I'm sorry, my condolences.
[06:40] <chaotic> i cant boot linux
[06:40] <stephen_> i typed that and it asked for for the password
[06:40] <stephen_> and i entered it
[06:40] <stephen_> and nothing happened
[06:40] <chaotic> ntldr
[06:40] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !grub | chaotic
[06:40] <ubotu> chaotic: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:40] <Ace2016> kdesu kwrite  then file > open and find the file open and edit
[06:40] <stephen_> is ubotu a bot?
[06:40] <BluesKaj> stephen , try again sometimes it takes a fe tries
[06:40] <BluesKaj> few
[06:41] <Ace2016> stephen_: http://ace2016.net/tutorials/linux/run-windows-xp-applications-seamlessly-on-your-linux-desktop
[06:41] <Ace2016> wait nevermind
[06:41] <Ace2016> forget that
[06:41] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> stephen_: "kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:41] <Ace2016> it was in my shift+inset
[06:41] <Ace2016> what i wanted was shift+delete
[06:41] <Ace2016> :(
[06:41] <BluesKaj> ok , Ace2016 do want to help ...then take over if you wish ..toomany cooks confuses
[06:41] <stephen_> IM INTO THE FILE WOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:42] <Ace2016> nope you carry on, i just wanted to let you know since you might not have realised yet
[06:42] <BluesKaj> WhtWolfTeraDyne, ok , best way is to edit the sources.list stephen_ .alt+f2 type 'kdesu /etc/apt/sources.list'
[06:42] <stephen_> so what do i edit now in this file?
[06:42] <Ace2016> !easysource
[06:42] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:42] <stephen_> ive opened the file already
[06:42] <moonshine> !codecs
[06:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:42] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> BluesKaj: You missed it again...
[06:43] <stephen_> so im in the file........now what?
[06:43] <BluesKaj> delete the # in front of source lines that start with .deb
[06:43] <BluesKaj> there are prolly just 2 or 3
[06:43] <stephen_> source lines?
[06:44] <BluesKaj> lines then
[06:44] <stephen_> im confused :S
[06:44] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> stephen_: the lines that start with "# deb". Remove the #
[06:44] <stephen_> oh
[06:44] <stephen_> i see
[06:44] <stephen_> thx
[06:44] <stephen_> ok
[06:44] <stephen_> done
[06:44] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> stephen_: now save it.
[06:44] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> and close out
[06:45] <stephen_> ok
[06:45] <stephen_> done
[06:45] <BluesKaj> click on save , then in the konsole do 'sudo aptitude update'
[06:45] <apk> ppl hi
[06:45] <stephen_> the terminal program?
[06:45] <BluesKaj> yes
[06:46] <apk> any body there?
[06:46] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> stephen_: If you want a graphical option, you can use the "Fetch Updates" button in Adept to do the same thing.
[06:46] <stephen_> its installing
[06:46] <stephen_> thanks a lot guys
[06:46] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> apk: There's people here. What do you need help with?
[06:47] <stephen_> i think its finished installing
[06:47] <apk> yes, I need help with amarok, how to see non utf symbols in tags?
[06:47] <BluesKaj> stephen_, check this out as well, it will open up your options to other apps
[06:48] <BluesKaj> !sourc-omatic
[06:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sourc-omatic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:48] <BluesKaj> !sourco-matic
[06:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sourco-matic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:48] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> apk: That might be better asked in #amarok .
[06:48] <BluesKaj> geezus
[06:48] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !source-o-matic
[06:48] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:48] <apk> thx
[06:48] <chaotic> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30022/
[06:48] <chaotic> which one do i mount
[06:49] <BluesKaj> thx WhtWolfTeraDyne
[06:50] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !grub > WhtWolfTeraDyne
[06:50] <BluesKaj> stephen_, did you get that source-o-matic suggestion /
[06:50] <chaotic> !grub
[06:50] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:50] <chaotic> can i make a grub cdr
[06:51] <stephen_> ok i ran that source-omatic thing
[06:51] <chaotic> mkdir /mnt/root
[06:51] <chaotic> mkdir: cannot create directory `/mnt/root': File exists
[06:52] <K-Ryan> Anyone know what to do if your computer "plays" sounds, but you can't hear them? I don't have anything muted unless it's something hidden very well.
[06:52] <BluesKaj> stephen_, now you'll have more sources available in the sources.list  which is a vehicle that adept and synaptic use to navigate to the repositories that have the apps that you may want
[06:52] <stephen_> lol i cant hear anything either
[06:53] <stephen_> ok
[06:53] <stephen_> so do i do that thing again?
[06:53] <BluesKaj> well apt and aptitude as well
[06:53] <stephen_> delete the #
[06:53] <K-Ryan> I don't hear anything, but I don't get errors, I hate it.
[06:53] <BluesKaj> no, they are already done for you
[06:53] <stephen_> ok
[06:54] <stephen_> and this will allow me to install java and rar?
[06:54] <BluesKaj> stephen_, just check your souces list like you did earlier
[06:55] <stephen_> ok
[06:55] <stephen_> now some more updates are available :)
[06:55] <BluesKaj> it depends on how you answered the questions in the source-o-matic page ...it generates the repository adresses to look at for the apps you want
[06:56] <stephen_> i ticked all the boxes lol
[06:57] <stephen_> ill brb im updating the system
[06:57] <BluesKaj> ok, so you have a completely updated list ...you just have to activate it bu doing sudo aptitude update in the terminal ... I normally ignore the adept updater cuz it's buggy
[06:57] <pclip> yay! i just got samba set up and working with windows :)
[06:58] <pclip> all in vmware as well ;)
[06:58] <BluesKaj> congrats pclip
[06:58] <pclip> now i need to figure out how to install pgsql
[06:59] <dave_> how do i go about installing nethack? it's a tgz file :o
[06:59] <K-Ryan> Does anyone see anything wrong in this? I'm trying to figure out why my sound isn't working, http://pastebin.com/m38ad199e
[06:59] <dave_> i've tried lots of commands :(
[07:00] <pclip> ohh - how can i stop firefox beeping when i do a search and it doesn't find the word on the page?
[07:00] <stephen> :O 20 minutes rmain on update
[07:00] <dave_> yeah that's annoying i wnana know how to change that too :)
[07:02] <BluesKaj> stephen, I hope it works for you , after done i recommend dumping adept updater cuz it's buggy and can cause probs with some apps ...best way is to update with aptitude or apt
[07:02] <iggz> hey guys
[07:02] <stevo111> lol
[07:02] <stevo111> im on my ds now
[07:03] <stevo111> irc on nds :O
[07:03] <iggz> i had a question, if you don't mind, what's the difference between wifi0 and ath0 interfaces
[07:03] <iggz> for wireless cards
[07:04] <stephen_> oooh
[07:04] <stephen_> i need to get my wifi max working on linux
[07:04] <K-Ryan> Mine worked out of the box =)
[07:04] <jhutchins> iggz: It's essentially two different layers of driver.
[07:04] <K-Ryan> D-Link WNA-2330
[07:05] <jhutchins> iggz: One loads the firmware for the card, the other talks to it.
[07:05] <iggz> i want to monitor my up and download speeds, with knetstat, which should i monitor?
[07:06] <jhutchins> iggz: Well, I don't have mine up right now, but I'd just have to try one, if that didn't show anything try the other.
[07:06] <iggz> the problem is that they both show stuff, it's alittle different though
[07:06] <stephen_> juan...
[07:06] <stephen_> you was on dsorganize
[07:07] <iggz> i'll just monitor wifi, thanks alot
[07:07] <iggz> for your help
[07:08] <stephen_> hmmm
[07:08] <juan> i have a small question
[07:09] <K-Ryan> !ask
[07:09] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:09] <chaotic> !grub
[07:09] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:09] <stephen_> stfu ubotu
[07:09] <juan> how do i clean my hp printer
[07:09] <K-Ryan> Clean?
[07:09] <juan> do maintentenance
[07:09] <stephen_> lol
[07:09] <K-Ryan> Physical?
[07:09] <moonshine> can anyone explain why kaffeine will play an .avi but VLC won't?
[07:09] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> juan: Not exactly the best place to ask...
[07:09] <juan> printing is not idle anymore
[07:09] <stephen_> take it to the shop
[07:10] <jhutchins> K-Ryan: There's a 'clean' cycle most inkjets need to run periodically.
[07:10] <K-Ryan> moonshine: Codecs probably
[07:10] <K-Ryan> jhutchins: Never heard of it
[07:10] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> jhutchins: Nor have I...
[07:10] <jhutchins> moonshine: Try mplayer or vlc.
[07:10] <moonshine> K-Ryan: that's what i'm thinking .. got all the xine ones ..
[07:10] <juan> there was a package por hp that enabled this
[07:11] <K-Ryan> moonshine: Maybe VLC has certain codec packages just for it
[07:11] <moonshine> jhutchins: vlc won't play, kaffeine *will*
[07:11] <jhutchins> juan: Is there a sequence of buttons you can press or hold while you power on to do it?
[07:11] <moonshine> this only happened after the feisty upgrade as well :/
[07:11] <MidMark> !paste
[07:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:11] <jhutchins> moonshine: Oh.  My bad.
[07:11] <moonshine> bizarre
[07:11] <juan> not that i know of
[07:11] <jhutchins> moonshine: Try mplayer then.
[07:11] <moonshine> same error
[07:11] <K-Ryan> moonshine: Why not just use Kaffeine?
[07:11] <K-Ryan> =)
[07:12] <stephen_> y is linux so complex :(
[07:12] <moonshine> "illegal instruction"
[07:12] <BluesKaj> moonshine, uninstall, then reinstall VLC
[07:12] <K-Ryan> It's not that complex
[07:12] <K-Ryan> It just let's you do what Windows won't
[07:12] <stephen_> it is too install apps lol
[07:12] <jhutchins> juan: There are a number of HP utilities available in kubuntu, one of those would probably do it.  There's a package called mtink that handles many printers.
[07:12] <K-Ryan> stephen_: That's easy, sudo apt-get install <package>
[07:12] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> stephen_: Because Linux isn't Windows. It actually lets you do what you want instead of doing what it will let you.
[07:12] <jhutchins> !find mtink
[07:12] <ubotu> Found: mtink, mtink-doc
[07:12] <K-Ryan> Rather than searching the net, downloading an installer, installing the program
[07:13] <stephen_> package?
[07:13] <jhutchins> !info mtink
[07:13] <ubotu> mtink: Status monitor and configuration tool for Epson inkjet printers. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.0.14-2 (feisty), package size 154 kB, installed size 608 kB
[07:13] <stephen_> is package the name of the file?
[07:13] <jhutchins> juan: I know it says epson, but it works for other brands too.
[07:13] <BluesKaj> !package | stephen_
[07:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about package - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:13] <K-Ryan> !app
[07:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about app - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:13] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Dumb bot...
[07:13] <Kjellviz> Hi, does kernel .16 change anything related to bluetooth compared to .15 ?
[07:14] <juan> ok, thanks, i'm running it
[07:14] <BluesKaj> !dpkg
[07:14] <K-Ryan> You killed him!
[07:14] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[07:14] <K-Ryan> Guess not,,
[07:14] <K-Ryan> *...
[07:14] <jhutchins> !find hplip
[07:14] <ubotu> Found: hplip, hplip-data, hplip-dbg, hplip-doc, hpijs-ppds
[07:14] <BluesKaj> he's abit slow today ...poor bot :)
[07:14] <stephen_> !oooh
[07:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oooh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:14] <jhutchins> !info hplip
[07:14] <ubotu> hplip: HP Linux Printing and Imaging System (HPLIP). In component main, is optional. Version 1.7.3-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 605 kB, installed size 2776 kB
[07:14] <stephen_> !your mum
[07:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about your mum - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:15] <stephen_> looool
[07:15] <K-Ryan> !botabuse
[07:15] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[07:15] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> LAG...
[07:15] <Kjellviz> please stop spamming bullshit
[07:15] <K-Ryan> !ohmy
[07:15] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:15] <stephen_> im on my ds lol using irc its great
[07:15] <moonshine> so i'm assuming an apt-upgrade to feisty doesn't include multiverse or universe repos?
[07:16] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> stephen_: there's an IRC app for the DS?
[07:16] <K-Ryan> Apparantly
[07:16] <stephen_> yes im on it lol
[07:16] <Kjellviz> does kernel .16 change anything related to bluetooth compared to .15 ?
[07:16] <K-Ryan> !bluetooth
[07:16] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[07:16] <K-Ryan> Kjellviz: That's your best bet until you get an answer in here
[07:16] <stephen_> there is 2 apps for irc on ds
[07:16] <K-Ryan> stephen_: #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:16] <stephen_> ircd and dsorganize irc
[07:17] <stephen_> wtf ryan
[07:17] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> stephen_: Thanks. K-Ryan: he was answering my question.
[07:17] <Kjellviz> K-Ryan: thats a guide on how to install, not wether the kernel has updates or not ?
[07:17] <jhutchins> Kjellviz: Try booting back to the previous kernel and see what it does.
[07:17] <K-Ryan> WhtWolfTeraDyne: I know, but this isn't the place
[07:17] <stephen_> shush lol
[07:17] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Whatever...
[07:17] <K-Ryan> Kjellviz: I wasn't sure if it would help at all, so I just threw it out there
[07:17] <Kjellviz> jhutchins: have not updated yet
[07:18] <K-Ryan> stephen_: They are strict about keeping on topic in here
[07:18] <jhutchins> Kjellviz: Didn't you say an update had knocked out your bluetooth?
[07:18] <Kjellviz> jhutchins: because i know that in between those 80 updates, there is one that messes up my bluetooth
[07:18] <Kjellviz> jhutchins: yes, but ive reinstalled
[07:18] <jhutchins> Ah.
[07:18] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> K-Ryan: In my two weeks here, that has yet to truely be seen.
[07:18] <Tm_T> stephen_: better behave, thanks
[07:18] <gnomefreak> Tm_T: all we have to do is op up :)
[07:18] <Kjellviz> and now im scanning the updatelist for a possible reason
[07:19] <K-Ryan> WhtWolfTeraDyne: Then you're lucky
[07:19] <K-Ryan> Or have bad timing
[07:19] <Kjellviz> my best guess so far is kernel upgrade
[07:19] <stephen_> im installing 7.04 so thats why im on my ds
[07:19] <jhutchins> Kjellviz: Well, that's easy, because if it _is_ the kernel, just use the grub menu to choose the earlier one.
[07:19] <Tm_T> gnomefreak: yeah, I'm scary old hermit
[07:19] <gnomefreak> ;)
[07:19] <K-Ryan> stephen_: You can run stuff while upgrading you know
[07:19] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> K-Ryan: I've seen quite a bit of offopic here. By various regulars, even.
[07:20] <stephen_> i know but just in case
[07:20] <Kjellviz> jhutchins: yes, but if thats not the issue then im back at reinstalling (the 5th time today or so)
[07:20] <Kjellviz> jhutchins: so i just wanted to check if someone knew what the kernel upgrade contained
[07:20] <K-Ryan> WhtWolfTeraDyne: Doesn't make it right
[07:20] <jhutchins> Kjellviz: Hah!  Well, maybe it's time you figured out how to do rollbacks of specific packages!
[07:20] <stephen_> i like the facts that linux has almost no viruses and the free apps
[07:20] <Kjellviz> yes, that would be nice ><
[07:21] <jhutchins> Kjellviz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto
[07:21] <stephen_> i just need to learn how to use linux lol
[07:21] <Kjellviz> jhutchins: but, if i install the updates, and it IS infact the kernel, if i boot .15 from grub will all the other updates be gone or is it like booting before ALL those updates ?
[07:22] <jhutchins> WhtWolfTeraDyne: When I moderate a channel, my rule is generally that offtopic is ok when there's nothing else going on, but it has to be polite and friendly, and it has to shut up if there's real traffic or anybody objects.
[07:22] <Kjellviz> jhutchins: with that, are you saying i should update using apt-get instead of adept updater ?
[07:22] <chaoticic> hey i installed   grub still no loader what should i do
[07:22] <chaoticic> !grub
[07:22] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:22] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> jhutchins: Now that's a rule I can agree with...
[07:22] <Tm_T> jhutchins: that's what I think rest of us think too
[07:22] <jhutchins> Kjellviz: That would probably be a good idea, useing apt-get.
[07:22] <jhutchins> Kjellviz: Gives you a bit more control over what's happening.
[07:23] <jhutchins> Kjellviz: Also, that's the tool you would use to update.
[07:23] <Kjellviz> so, basically apt-get update will suffice ?
[07:23] <jhutchins> Kjellviz: As far as grub and the kernel go, grub allows you to select which kernel you boot to, but the rest of the updates stay in place.
[07:23] <stephen_> so whats the command to install apps?
[07:23] <K-Ryan> sudo apt-get install
[07:23] <Kjellviz> i just used the autoupdater that is iin my systray nagging that theres updates availiable
[07:23] <K-Ryan> or sudo aptitude install
[07:24] <jhutchins> Kjellviz: The kernel is an exception to most packages, it is never actually upgraded, the new one is installed beside the old.
[07:24] <Tm_T> or sudo wajig install
[07:24] <stephen_> thx ryan
[07:24] <Kjellviz> jhutchins: ok thanks a lot
[07:24] <Tm_T> or <your apt ui>
[07:24] <K-Ryan> stephen_: Np
[07:24] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Ok. Quick question. Is there anyway to make a Live-CD that can read off of a partition at boot and use user settings that are stored there by logging in wuth that UN\Pass?
[07:24] <stephen_> this is one of the friendliest channels ive been on
[07:25] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> so that*, with*
[07:25] <Kjellviz> jhutchins: so basically i just apt-get update then apt-get upgrade ?
[07:25] <lowsix2> hey
[07:25] <jhutchins> WhtWolfTeraDyne: Yes, knoppix will do that.  I would look at how they do it, there's nothing automatic to do it in *buntu.
[07:25] <jhutchins> Kjellviz: Yes, exactly.
[07:25] <Kjellviz> and then if something messes up i can use apt-get remove to uninstall spesific packages
[07:25] <lowsix2> can someone help me with an upgrade to feisty fawn?
[07:26] <Kjellviz> ok sweet
[07:26] <Kjellviz> ive been using apt-get before
[07:26] <Kjellviz> im just in the habit of windows update ^^
[07:26] <jhutchins> Kjellviz: Having that howto as a "cheat sheet" comes in pretty handy.
[07:26] <stephen_> ive never installed an app before
[07:26] <gnomefreak> lowsix2: put the errors on pastebin please
[07:26] <Kjellviz> "ohh a shiny popup telling me to install" "click ok"
[07:26] <stephen_> firefox just ran lol
[07:26] <lowsix2> where is pastebin?
[07:26] <jhutchins> Kjellviz: Ah!  That would explain why so many people rely on it!
[07:26] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[07:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:26] <K-Ryan> stephen_: It's actually nice and easy
[07:26] <gnomefreak> ;p^^^
[07:26] <gnomefreak> lowsix2: ^^^
[07:26] <jhutchins> Kjellviz: It's been so long since I actually ran windows, I don't think of stuff like that.
[07:27] <Kjellviz> hehe
[07:27] <lowsix2> ubotu ... willdo
[07:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about willdo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:27] <sercan> How can I mount my Philips GoGear?
[07:27] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> jhutchins: Ok. I'll try creating my own Kubuntu LiveCD with that feature... if I can figure out how they did it.
[07:27] <K-Ryan> !ubotu
[07:27] <lowsix2> lol, looks like a bot
[07:27] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:27] <stephen_> iit is
[07:27] <K-Ryan> =)
[07:27] <lowsix2> cool
[07:27] <gnomefreak> lowsix2: it is a bot
[07:27] <pclip> on a shortcut for the desktop, can i run 2 / 3 commands from one lnk?
[07:27] <vbgunz> amarok refuses to start up :(
[07:27] <K-Ryan> It's always funny when people think he's a real person
[07:27] <lowsix2> well, the error isn't much larger than a url
[07:28] <gnomefreak> pclip: yes if you make a script and launch the script
[07:28] <lowsix2> so should I use pastebin?
[07:28] <pclip> gnomefreak - is a script just a normal text file made executable?
[07:28] <Kjellviz> man im crossing my fingers on this one !!!
[07:28] <K-Ryan> vbgunz: Lucky you, mine plays whatever I tell it to, except I hear nothing, I don't even get an error
[07:28] <gnomefreak> lowsix2: go to the pastebin url and paste the error and as much of it as you can to the pastebin link
[07:28] <vbgunz> L/
[07:28] <vbgunz> :/
[07:28] <Kjellviz> ive spent far to much time on trying to fix it already =(
[07:28] <gnomefreak> lowsix2: than click send and give us the new link
[07:28] <lowsix2> k gnome .. tx
[07:28] <stephen_> im bored
[07:29] <K-Ryan> pclip: Kind of
[07:29] <Kjellviz> jhutchins: how can i uninstall that autoupdater, so its icon wont tempt me to update soon again ? :P
[07:29] <pclip> kind of?
[07:29] <jhutchins> K-Ryan: Have you configured the sound interface for it?
[07:30] <K-Ryan> jhutchins: I've done everything that I can think of for it, that doesn't sound familiar though. Where's it?
[07:30] <stephen_> linux makes youtube sexy
[07:30] <jhutchins> Kjellviz: Heh.  Um, not sure, but I think you can right click on it and configure it not to start, or use kcontrol to remove it from the list of autostart programs.
[07:30] <jhutchins> !autostart | Kjellviz
[07:30] <ubotu> Kjellviz: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[07:31] <vbgunz> damn, I don't have any plugins. not sure why amarok won't start up :(
[07:31] <stephen_> i just need java
[07:31] <Kjellviz> jhutchins: heh, that one ive already got ^^  i guess ill live =)
[07:31] <simon_> does anybody know how to configure an usb stick, that transfers sound to a hifi
[07:31] <Kjellviz> allrite
[07:31] <Kjellviz> wish me luck
[07:31] <Kjellviz> hehe
[07:32] <stephen_> oooh usb to hifi sounds sexy
[07:32] <jhutchins> vbgunz: Try starting it from a console, see what you get.  (Oh, and watch the language, children present.)
[07:32] <simon_> lsusb lists the usb stick called "jvc usb wireless transmitter" without any problems
[07:32] <sercan> Kubuntu did't auto mount my Philips GoGear player when plug in. How can I get work it?
[07:32] <vbgunz> jhutchins: nothing, it just never returns when launched from console :/
[07:32] <stephen_> woa too many questions lol
[07:33] <pclip> where is 'd***' considered a swear word
[07:33] <jhutchins> pclip: Here.
[07:33] <word> Owned.
[07:33] <stephen_> language was the word used lol
[07:33] <pclip> where's here?
[07:33] <jhutchins> pclip: iirc it's one of the "Seven nasty words" - see George Carlin.
[07:33] <K-Ryan> #kubuntu
[07:33] <stephen_> in my head
[07:33] <gnomefreak> lowsix2: you have the link ready
[07:34] <jhutchins> vbgunz: Hm.
[07:34] <jhutchins> vbgunz: Try un-installing it with the --purge option, then reinstalling it.
[07:34] <vbgunz> :O
[07:34] <jhutchins> vbgunz: I've never had it just hang for me, it even handles when the collection drive is off-line.
[07:34] <vbgunz> I guess it may be worth a try
[07:35] <stephen_> is their a gui for installing apps?
[07:35] <K-Ryan> Adept or Synaptic
[07:35] <jhutchins> vbgunz: Also make sure you give it plenty of time if you've configured it to scan a large collection - like several minutes.
[07:35] <K-Ryan> They're in the "System" menu under your K Menu
[07:35] <vbgunz> hmm
[07:35] <stephen_> i mean ones not on their list
[07:36] <K-Ryan> Synaptic and Adept_manager are the only ones I've heard of
[07:36] <pclip> i'm sure i can think of many more nasty words than seven ;)
[07:36] <K-Ryan> Dunno about any others
[07:36] <stephen_> and i dont have synaptix
[07:36] <pclip> ok, so a script is an executable text file right?
[07:36] <K-Ryan> stephen_ then go to your shell and type in sudo apt-get install synaptic
[07:36] <gnomefreak> pclip: for non support related topics join #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:36] <stephen_> maybe iit will be there after i install 7.04
[07:37] <pclip> that's a support question right?
[07:37] <vbgunz> jhutchins: it wants to remove kubuntu-desktop
[07:37] <gnomefreak> pclip: thats not support related
[07:37] <jhutchins> vbgunz: Don't worry about that.  kubuntu-desktop is just a container that pulls all the rest of the stuff in.
[07:37] <BigL> hey i have a q
[07:37] <BigL> i have a few internal hard disks lying around, for now nad for future use, is there some cable/etc i can get that can lets say hookup to my laptop via usb or something while other side can connect to internal hard disk and kinda make a drive i can go browse in the internal?
[07:37] <gnomefreak> 13:36 <           pclip > i'm sure i can think of many more nasty words than  seven ;)
[07:37] <jhutchins> vbgunz: It's like the cardboard box your system came in, you don't need it once you have the system.
[07:37] <gnomefreak> that is not suport related
[07:37] <vbgunz> jhutchins: do I need it for any future upgrades or anything?
[07:37] <lowsix2> can I use the ubuntu gui tool to upgrade kubuntu?
[07:38] <pclip> well, i'm asking how to make a script - that support?
[07:38] <jhutchins> vbgunz: No, the individual packages will install their own updates.
[07:38] <gnomefreak> lowsix2: you can but the errors is still gonna be there
[07:38] <pclip> ahh i see :)
[07:38] <vbgunz> ok
[07:38] <gumjo> I'm trying to format my drive with osx on it, but both gparted and qtparted say that the partition table is damaged and it cant be formatted...is the drive irrepairable?
[07:38] <K-Ryan> pclip: That's not really Kubuntu support though
[07:38] <vbgunz> i'll try
[07:38] <lowsix2> gnome ... that was what I first tried, I was wondering if it couldn't be used and thats why I had the errors.  obviously not
[07:38] <gnomefreak> pclip: see #bash or #perl or #python or whatever you want the script to be in
[07:39] <pclip> well, i'd like a shortcut for the desktop
[07:39] <gnomefreak> lowsix2: it can but i need to see error to find out what is stopping it
[07:39] <K-Ryan> Right click, create new, link to application
[07:39] <jhutchins> pclip: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html has some basics.
[07:39] <gnomefreak> pclip: doesnt really matter i use bash but some perfer other languages
[07:39] <lowsix2> heres my error trying to use the gui to upgrade from edgy to feisty fawn http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/30024/
[07:39] <stephen_> can you run live cd on school computers?
[07:40] <K-Ryan> stephen_: Of course you "can", whether or not you get in trouble though...
[07:40] <lowsix2> any help is appreciated, I may try command line
[07:40] <gnomefreak> lowsix2: one minute
[07:40] <lowsix2> tx
[07:40] <vbgunz> jhutchins: ok, I purged it, am reinstalling it now
[07:40] <gnomefreak> lowsix2: sudo apt-get update
[07:40] <gnomefreak> lowsix2: let me know if it errors
[07:40] <jhutchins> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:40] <pclip> the teacher prolly wouldn't even know what you're doing
[07:40] <K-Ryan> But I'm sure they'd flip
[07:41] <vbgunz> wow, amarok still don't start :(
[07:41] <stephen_> lol theyd kill me
[07:41] <lowsix2> gnome .. it does, let me fix that first
[07:41] <K-Ryan> stephen_: There's your answer then =)
[07:41] <jhutchins> vbgunz: Ok, you might ask in #amarok, although they'll probably say it's a kubuntu problem.  Sorry, no idea what it could be.
[07:41] <stephen_> update tool crashed :O
[07:41] <chaoticic> The file /mnt/root/boot/grub/stage2 not read correctly.
[07:41] <chaoticic> i got that what should i do
[07:41] <jhutchins> stephen_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:41] <vbgunz> no problem
[07:42] <gnomefreak> lowsix2: apt-get update gave you errors?
[07:42] <jhutchins> chaoticic: What did you do before that happened?
[07:42] <chaoticic> grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/root /dev/hda
[07:43] <stephen_> lol the update only crashed when deleting obsolete software, will my system be updated?
[07:43] <jhutchins> stephen_: Sorry, too many threads, I've lost track of who's doing what.
[07:43] <stephen_> it was right at the last minute
[07:43] <gnomefreak> stephen_: when it finishes it will tell you
[07:44] <chaoticic> what should i do
[07:44] <gnomefreak> chaoticic: maybe try hda0,0 or however it is named see !grub for more info
[07:45] <gnomefreak> jhutchins: install grub
[07:45] <gnomefreak> the grub-install command gave that away
[07:46] <gnomefreak> lowsix2: anyway if they are the only errors sudo apt-get update or closing update-manager and restarting it or refresh it(i think there is an option for refresh) should fix your errors
[07:47] <Krist007> hello
[07:47] <chaoticic> i get a stage 2 error trying to install grub what can i do
[07:47] <intelikey> pop Quiz:  who can propperly diagnose this error message ?      .bash_profile: line 5: .: command not found
[07:48] <gnomefreak> intelikey: what is on lines 4-6 of ~/.bashrc
[07:48] <gnomefreak> intelikey: most likely you have a stray mark
[07:48] <stephen_> where do i find the games i installed from adept?
[07:48] <graham_> Hey, I have a soundcard and onboard sound, I'd like to output sound through my soundcard, how can I do that?
[07:48] <intelikey> gnomefreak it's irrelivant   the error message tells the exct error
[07:48] <lowsix2> gnome ... I've tried that, actually the error was because I hadn't closed the gui and it was on feisty, so I closed it and there was another error duplicate so I'm fixing that now
[07:49] <Zolar> Does any know of a book on KDE that they would recommend?
[07:49] <intelikey> gnomefreak this is the line       [ -f ~/.bashrc ]  && . ~/.bashrc
[07:49] <intelikey> gnomefreak so what is the problem there ?
[07:49] <gnomefreak> intelikey: and when did -f become a command? what are you trying to do?
[07:50] <gnomefreak> this is assuming you didnt define [ -f ~/.bashrc] 
[07:50] <lowsix2> -f tests whether file exists
[07:51] <gnomefreak> intelikey: its easier to add simple things and write scripts for more complex things
[07:51] <intelikey> gnomefreak the answer is,     enable -n .      has been issued.   thus  .  is nolonger a command.
[07:51] <intelikey> no longer
[07:51] <lowsix2> gnome ... fixing the upgrade did the trick
[07:51] <lowsix2> update
[07:51] <stephen_> lol
[07:51] <stephen_> i glitched kolf
[07:52] <intelikey> reposting the error message:   .bash_profile: line 5: .: command not found
[07:52] <gnomefreak> intelikey: im gonna guess that bash cant parse that line weather it be due to bash being limited or the file not allowing it
[07:52] <gnomefreak> intelikey: you see the .?
[07:52] <intelikey> gnomefreak the answer is,     enable -n .      has been issued.   thus  .  is no longer a command.
[07:52] <intelikey> reposting the error message:   .bash_profile: line 5: .: command not found
[07:52] <intelikey> .: command not found
[07:53] <gnomefreak> notice the && . ~/.bashrc the . should not be there
[07:53] <intelikey> yes it should
[07:53] <gnomefreak> . ~/.bashrc means nothing
[07:53] <intelikey> wrong
[07:53] <gnomefreak> if you are trying to go back a dir it need to be different
[07:53] <intelikey> means source the file
[07:54] <lowsix2> gnome ... tnx ... uploading now
[07:54] <intelikey> gnomefreak you are talking through your hat
[07:54] <gnomefreak> lowsix2: yw
[07:55] <gnomefreak> intelikey: first off you are the one with the error. second you dont weant help fine but your best place to get help with it would be #bash
[07:55] <gnomefreak> want*
[07:55] <gnomefreak> intelikey: and for the record . means nothing unless defined in the way you used it something should be infront of it or it will count it as a stray mark
[07:56] <gnomefreak> intelikey: error being bashrc doesnt know what to do with the .
[07:56] <intelikey> gnomefreak sorry you are mistaken about .     help .    for info
[07:57] <chaoticic> ive  only had kubuntu for a day
[07:57] <K-Ryan> Anyone know how to check an md5sum in Windows? I'm trying to burn a live cd and the other ones keep breaking
[07:57] <intelikey> gnomefreak as i said eariler  . blah   means  source blah
[07:57] <intelikey> gnomefreak it's a shell built in
[07:58] <gnomefreak> intelikey: your bashrc file disagrees with you
[07:58] <gnomefreak> or it would work
[07:58] <Kjellviz> jhutchins: hi again =)
[07:58] <Kjellviz> jhutchins: ive done apt-get update
[07:58] <stephen_> i gtg
[07:58] <stephen_> bbl
[07:58] <Kjellviz> jhutchins: and its all working great
[07:59] <Kjellviz> jhutchins: there's a couple of updates still in the adept updater list that apt-get does not download
[07:59] <intelikey> gnomefreak wrong again,  i explained that.  if you would have read my posts rather than thinking you know something you already have learned
[07:59] <intelikey> you would ^
[07:59] <lowsix2> gnome ... actually , I think I'm closer to the real problem now...ipw2200 ... http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/30027/
[08:00] <BluesKaj> Kjellviz: don't DL them , they could be broken pkges that are better off staying off your system
[08:00] <lowsix2> ipw2200 was why I was trying the upgrade and it looks like its flakiness is now preventing the file uploads
[08:00] <lowsix2> gonna try again and see if same thing happens
[08:00] <gnomefreak> intelikey: did you label where it should be saved?
[08:00] <intelikey> gnomefreak  "saved" ?    what are you talking about now ?
[08:00] <Kjellviz> BluesKaj: evidently, since when i downloaded them last time i ran into problems
[08:01] <gnomefreak> intelikey: nothing you same was of help other than the error and you enable -n .
[08:01] <BluesKaj> that blasted adept updater should be deleted ...it causes nothing but problems after a couple of updates
[08:01] <Kjellviz> BluesKaj: you know how to uninstall the adept updater, and if its "ok" (if it wont affect my ability to install other programs etc)
[08:02] <BluesKaj> Kjellviz:  deleting the updater won't hurt , you can still use adept for pkges you really want
[08:02] <Kjellviz> good
[08:02] <gnomefreak> intelikey: the . is still a command enbale -n . is wrong iirc or you didnt save file and restart bash
[08:02] <gnomefreak> but its parsing it as a command
[08:03] <gnomefreak> so it still IS
[08:03] <lowsix2> yep ... during the downloads my ipw bit it again
[08:03] <Kjellviz> BluesKaj: cant find it as an individual package though
[08:03] <intelikey> gnomefreak when you catch up we'll talk some more about it   :)
[08:03] <gnomefreak> lowsix2: try using gb.archive instead of the archive repos
[08:03] <gnomefreak> intelikey: im caught up
[08:04] <intelikey> gnomefreak then you are confused, sorry.
[08:04] <BluesKaj> Kjellviz: it's not a pkg , just delete it from the panel or in kcontrol
[08:04] <gnomefreak> intelikey: if enabe -n . caused it to no loger be a command why is it parsing the . as a command
[08:04] <Kjellviz> i chose quit from the popup menu, it asked me if it shhould start next logon
[08:04] <Kjellviz> guess my answer ><
[08:04] <BluesKaj> Kjellviz:  choose no
[08:04] <Kjellviz> hehe
[08:04] <intelikey> gnomefreak  man bash   has the answers you need.
[08:04] <Kjellviz> already done
[08:04] <BluesKaj> cool :)
[08:05] <gnomefreak> intelikey: something you did is not right either 1 enable -n . should have more or be written differnetly.
[08:05] <Kjellviz> BluesKaj: thanks for the help/tip!
[08:05] <BluesKaj> NP, :)
[08:05] <gnomefreak> intelikey: jopin #bash than see what they say
[08:06] <BluesKaj> bbiab
[08:08] <intelikey> gnomefreak people in #bash understand what i've been trying to teach you, so there is no need in going there.    let me explain it one more time for you.    1.   i disabled the bash builtin '.'   2. i didn't remove it's usage in some runtime comfiguration files   3. thus it generates an error message that the command  .  is not found,   4. i thought that a good teaching point that some might benifit from and posted the  "p
[08:09] <intelikey> pop Quiz:  who can propperly diagnose this error message ?      .bash_profile: line 5: .: command not found   <<<<  sorry for the confusion.
[08:09] <savetheWorld> intelikey: stop trying to teach people valuable things.  It wastes your time and annoys the pig.   :-)
[08:09] <gnomefreak> intelikey: btw just a hint but -enable -n  is not in man bash or bash --help so maybe look for another alternative to -enable -n
[08:10] <intelikey> savetheWorld noted.
[08:10] <intelikey> gnomefreak but it's in     enable help   :)
[08:10] <chaoticic> had to reinstall kubuntu have to go thru the nvidia deal all over again
[08:11] <gnomefreak> intelikey: im not seeing an enable arg in it
[08:11] <intelikey> tty1 [root@~]  help enable
[08:11] <intelikey> enable: enable [-pnds]  [-a]  [-f filename]  [name ...] 
[08:12] <intelikey> tty1 [root@~]  type enable
[08:12] <intelikey> enable is a shell builtin
[08:12] <intelikey> tty1 [root@~]  type .
[08:12] <intelikey> . is a shell builtin
[08:12] <intelikey> thus enable -n .     disables .
[08:12] <intelikey> next
[08:14] <chaoticic> !grub
[08:14] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:17] <gnomefreak> intelikey: isnt tty in feisty (assuming your in feisty) now dash? tty is the system terminal default == dash unless you use bash in tty
[08:19] <intelikey> gnomefreak your login shell is defined in /etc/passwd reguardless the version
[08:19] <ShockValue> hrm.. just followed the howto on installing compiz-fusion.  its working, but for some reason i dont have any window buttons/titlebars/etc.. what did I miss? :)
[08:20] <intelikey> gnomefreak you are probably thinking about  /bin/sh    /bin/sh is normally a symlink to some shell   dash or bash or even csh
[08:21] <intelikey> ShockValue if no one answers try in #ubuntu-effects  the official channel for that
[08:22] <intelikey> !beryl
[08:22] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:22] <ShockValue> ah, thanks intel
[08:23] <intelikey> welcome
[08:23] <gnomefreak> intelikey: you are having dash read a bash file the enable -n . is bash what if it does something differnet if typed in a dash  term.
[08:23] <intelikey> gnomefreak wrong.
[08:23] <gnomefreak> since bashrc is not  ascript
 intelikey: you are having dash...<<<< wrong.  it's bash reding it.   please stop trying to prove that you know more about this than i do.     here if it helps i'll just admit that you do.
[08:25] <intelikey> gnomefreak knows bash better than intelikey
[08:25] <gnomefreak> intelikey: im not trying to prove anything
[08:25] <intelikey> well i gave you the answer why do you keep trying to change it ?
[08:25] <gnomefreak> intelikey: im not here to prove anything you want help if you typed enable -n . in dash its not the same as in bash
[08:25] <stephen> im back
[08:25] <stephen> :)
[08:26] <gnomefreak> intelikey: you gave me the problem not the answer. if you had the answer your topic is mute and offtopic. where did you give the answer?
 gnomefreak people in #bash understand what i've been trying to
[08:27] <intelikey>             teach you, so there is no need in going there.    let me explain
[08:27] <intelikey>             it one more time for you.    1.   i disabled the bash builtin '.'
[08:27] <intelikey>              2. i didn't remove it's usage in some runtime comfiguration files
[08:27] <intelikey>               3. thus it generates an error message that the command  .  is
[08:27] <intelikey>             not found,   4. i thought that a good teaching point that some
[08:27] <intelikey>             might benifit from and posted the  "pop Quiz" question that
[08:27] <intelikey>             confused you.
[08:27] <intelikey> there ^
[08:27] <stephen> O_O
[08:27] <stephen> how did you do that
[08:27] <intelikey> yeah i did think about it seperating each line.... sorry.
[08:27] <gnomefreak> intelikey: it confused me since its in a support channel next time i will ignore you after i remove you
[08:28] <stephen> :O
[08:28] <stephen> gnome can you tell me how to install java please
[08:28] <intelikey> didn't
[08:28] <gnomefreak> stephen: feisty?
[08:28] <stephen> stop arguing and help me
[08:28] <stephen> lol
[08:28] <stephen> whats fiesty?
[08:28] <stephen> if thats the kubuntu then yes
[08:28] <gnomefreak> stephen: what ubuntu version?
[08:28] <stephen> kubuntu
[08:28] <Kjellviz> !kde
[08:28] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[08:29] <arun> stephen: which version of kubuntu
[08:29] <stephen> i think it is fiesty yes
[08:29] <gnomefreak> stephen: 7.04? 6.10? 6.06?
[08:29] <stephen> how do i check?
[08:29] <gnomefreak> stephen: lsb_release -a
[08:29] <ardchoille> stephen: lsb_release -a
[08:29] <stephen> oooh
[08:29] <gnomefreak> stephen: you also need to enable multiverse repos
[08:30] <stephen> i think i did
[08:30] <gnomefreak> stephen: what did lsb_release -a say your version was
[08:30] <stephen> it didnt say anything
[08:30] <gnomefreak> did you type it in temrinal?
[08:31] <stephen> oops
[08:31] <gnomefreak> terminal
[08:31] <pyrotix__> I'm having a problem in windows: my computer won't recognize/doesn't have drivers for my ethernet port, so I cannot connect to the internet. How can I find what my ethernet port is and how would I get drivers for it? I presume I could find the former with linux which can connect to the internet. Help plz.
[08:31] <gnomefreak> stephen: look for line like Release:        7.10
[08:31] <pyrotix__> Heh I have hardware that works on linux but not windows. Go figure
[08:31] <stephen> 7.04
[08:31] <Raul> Hi, I have no sound in my fresh install feisty. I follow all the Comprehensive Sound Problem Solutions Guide v0.5e and everything seems to be Ok... except that I follow with no sound
[08:31] <gnomefreak> stephen: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[08:31] <stephen> thx mate
[08:31] <gnomefreak> stephen: let me know if it says it cant be found
[08:32] <stephen> i really like this irc everyone is so helpful
[08:32] <stephen> ooooh
[08:32] <stephen> its done
[08:32] <stephen> i think
[08:32] <stephen> oops
[08:32] <stephen> couldnt find package
[08:32] <gnomefreak> stephen: did it say setting up: ....
[08:32] <Zolar> are there any good books on KDE?
[08:33] <stephen> nope
[08:33] <gnomefreak> stephen: what did it say?
[08:33] <gnomefreak> short version please
[08:33] <stephen> couldnt find package sun-java6-plugin
[08:33] <gnomefreak> stephen: you need to enable multiverse and universe repos
[08:33] <stephen> :O
[08:34] <stephen> i dunno how
[08:34] <arun> stephen: open adept
[08:34] <gnomefreak> stephen: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:34] <stephen> i deleted the # already
[08:34] <stephen> it must have come back
[08:34] <arun> stephen: don't try and do it manually, i think you'll be more comfortable using a GUI
[08:34] <gnomefreak> stephen: did you add the word multiverse to the end of all the lines ending in universe?
[08:34] <stephen> nope
[08:34] <arun> stephen: open adept, i'll tell you how to proceed
[08:34] <stephen> lol
[08:34] <stephen> ok
[08:34] <stephen> open
[08:35] <arun> alright
[08:35] <arun> now
[08:35] <arun> go to Adept > Manage repositories
[08:35] <arun> on the top menu
[08:35] <stephen> it dun say manage thing
[08:35] <gnomefreak> if feisty didnt have the issue of corrupting the /etc/apt/sources.list.d file i would say use GUI too
[08:35] <arun> stephen: there is an option called adept on the top menu
[08:35] <gnomefreak> but that issue was never fixed
[08:35] <arun> click on it
[08:36] <arun> and select 'manage repositories'
[08:36] <stephen> ok
[08:36] <stephen> 1 sec
[08:36] <e1mer> hi
[08:36] <stephen> adept manager is not opening
[08:37] <arun> stephen: you just said you opened it :)
[08:37] <arun> try opening it again
[08:37] <stephen> i opened the add/remove
[08:37] <gnomefreak> stephen: did you close kate first?
[08:37] <arun> no, dont open the add remove
[08:37] <arun> close kate if you have it open
[08:37] <arun> and then go to kmenu > system > adept
[08:37] <stephen> brb
[08:37] <stephen> i gotta restart
[08:37] <stephen> everythings mucking up
[08:37] <gnomefreak> why you on windows?
[08:37] <stephen> nope
[08:38] <stephen> im on kubuntu
[08:38] <gnomefreak> oh ok
[08:38] <arun> :\
[08:38] <arun> why did he restart
[08:39] <stephen_> lol
[08:39] <stephen_> im on ds
[08:39] <stephen_> aswell
[08:40] <stephen_> so i can see what your saying
[08:40] <stephen> right
[08:40] <stephen> back on pc
[08:41] <BluesKaj> what's ds , stephen ?
[08:41] <dave_> nintendo ds =] 
[08:41] <stephen> lol
[08:41] <stephen> why has everyone got errors
[08:42] <arun> ???
[08:42] <chaotic> hey when  installing kubuntu  as dual boot my linux drive is set to mount /media/hda1 do i leave it there or mount to /
[08:42] <BluesKaj> <--not a gamer , don't unnerstand them inside jokes :)
[08:42] <stephen> ok
[08:42] <stephen> i opened adept
[08:43] <arun> ok go to adept > manage repositories
[08:43] <stephen> ok
[08:43] <stephen> one
[08:43] <stephen> done
[08:43] <chaotic> hey when  installing kubuntu  as dual boot my linux drive is set to mount /media/hda1 do i leave it there or mount to /
[08:44] <BluesKaj> !patience | chaotic
[08:44] <ubotu> chaotic: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:44] <arun> ok stephen
[08:44] <arun> do you see the dialog box?
[08:44] <chaotic> heh
[08:44] <stephen> yes
[08:44] <stephen> STFU UBOTO
[08:44] <stephen> lol
[08:44] <stephen> jk
[08:44] <arun> make sure all the check boxes are selected in the first tab
[08:44] <scott> hi
[08:44] <arun> in the 'kubuntu software' tab
[08:44] <arun> hey scott
[08:45] <chaotic> i know its a very basic ?
[08:45] <stephen> FFS
[08:45] <stephen> it crashed again
[08:45] <arun> what crashed
[08:45] <stephen> adept manager
[08:46] <arun> what exactly happened
[08:46] <BluesKaj> chaotic, are you also installing windows ?
[08:46] <stephen> i closed it
[08:46] <stephen> tried to reload it
[08:46] <ninix> hi, anyone know the package for allow k3b to burn mp3 audio cd ?
[08:46] <stephen> and it didnt
[08:46] <BluesKaj> !mp3
[08:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:46] <BluesKaj> !k3b
[08:47] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[08:47] <stephen> well its installing 6 updates so that might be why lol
[08:48] <BluesKaj> ok stephen yer turn to answer a quaestion.. what's ds ?
[08:48] <stephen> ok i installed the updates
[08:48] <stephen> nintendo ds lite
[08:48] <stephen> its a gaming system
[08:48] <BluesKaj> so he wasn't kidding
[08:48] <stephen> its teh coolest handheld ever
[08:48] <BluesKaj> ok :)
[08:49] <chaotic> windows is already installed
[08:49] <stephen_> this is me on ds
[08:49] <stephen_> lol
[08:49] <stephen> me on pc
[08:49] <BluesKaj> >--- bah to handhelds
[08:49] <stephen_> ds
[08:49] <Impy^> :)
[08:49] <chaotic> i got all the partitions made just trying to figure out the correct mount point
[08:49] <ninix> BluesKaj: thx
[08:49] <stephen> ok so what do i do now that i have enabled multiverse
[08:50] <Impy^> i don't suppose anyone know how to install nethack i've tried everything and have had no luck :(
[08:50] <chaotic> is mutiverse another repository
[08:50] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !info nethack
[08:50] <chaotic> !multiverse
[08:50] <ubotu> Package nethack does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:50] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:50] <BluesKaj> chaotic, if you are installinqg windows , it should go on the first partition
[08:51] <chaotic> its installed already on the 3rd
[08:51] <BluesKaj> uhoh
[08:51] <chaotic> 2nd is swap
[08:51] <Impy^> does that mean i can't play it? :o
[08:51] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Impy^: It's there, there are several packages.
[08:51] <Impy^> yeah when i try and load them
[08:51] <Impy^> i get to the character selection thing then it all disapppears
[08:51] <Impy^> :(
[08:52] <stephen> so now i have enabled multiverse what do i do now please?
[08:52] <stephen> to get java
[08:52] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> nethack-console, nethack-gnome. nethack-qt, nethack-x11...
[08:52] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Impy^: Which one are you using
[08:52] <Impy^> i tri
[08:52] <miles> question -- is anyone here using kde4 test build?
[08:53] <Impy^> i tried qt one and gnome one
[08:53] <miles> o rly
[08:53] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Impy^: Let me try installing the QT one.
[08:53] <miles> i talked to the people that created qt once
[08:54] <jesus_> is there anyway i can set up ddclient to use my webip instead of my router (internal) ip ?
[08:54] <NickPresta> I used to get an error with Nethack that would cause a segfault when I selected my character
[08:54] <miles> trolltech, what a bunch of nice guys
[08:54] <miles> question - which is the default kde media player? kaffiene or amarok?
[08:54] <miles> wait nevermind
[08:54] <Daisuke-Ido> depends on what you're playing...
[08:54] <miles> kaffiene = media, amarok = audio
[08:55] <miles> right?
[08:55] <Daisuke-Ido> pretty much, yeah
[08:55] <stephen> I HAVE ENABLED MULTIVERSE HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:55] <Daisuke-Ido> turn off the caps
[08:55] <NickPresta> !caps | stephen
[08:55] <ubotu> stephen: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[08:55] <stephen> shush ubotu
[08:55] <miles> !caps | miles
[08:56] <wolferine> how do I pull a movie off a DVD?
[08:56] <stephen> :O
[08:56] <Daisuke-Ido> if this is not an epic troll, i weep for the people that birthed a human being so willfully ignorant: http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2006/04/20/linux-a-european-threat-to-our-computers-by-tristan.aspx
[08:56] <stephen> pirate
[08:56] <miles> !rip
[08:56] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Impy^: Well, the QT one worked for me. Unfourtunatly I can't help. Maybe you should file a bug report on Launchpad...
[08:56] <ubotu> To rip an Audio CD in KDE, put it in and then put audiocd:// in the Konqueror URL bar; it's configurable in system settings. Also see http://tinyurl.com/2x7qsh
[08:56] <Daisuke-Ido> stephen: you want to quit being a little troll and actually ask a question?
[08:56] <Impy^> ahh okie dokie cheers for trying whtwolf :D
[08:56] <BluesKaj> wolferine, k9copy
[08:56] <stephen> tard i asked a question ages ago
[08:56] <stephen> and someone was helping
[08:57] <Impy^> brb
[08:57] <wolferine> BluesKaj thanks
[08:57] <Daisuke-Ido> i just got here
[08:57] <stephen> i enabled multiverse daisuke and now i have to do something to install java?
[08:57] <Daisuke-Ido> and what you do after enabling multiverse is the same thing you do after you add any new repository.  you update
[08:57] <Daisuke-Ido> sudo apt-get update
[08:57] <stephen> i did that
[08:58] <Daisuke-Ido> apt-cache search java
[08:58] <Daisuke-Ido> you're looking for one of the JREs
[08:58] <wolferine> stephen, consult the 'ubuntu guide' (find it with gogle)
[08:58] <wolferine> google*
[08:58] <miles> !amarok
[08:58] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[08:58] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> stephen: "sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre"
[08:59] <wolferine> he probably doesnt want the jre
[08:59] <wolferine> or she*
[08:59] <BluesKaj> actually the latest amarok is 1.4.6
[08:59] <stephen> thanks people for helping it dfinally installed lol
[08:59] <stephen> i love you all
[08:59] <stephen> xx
[08:59] <wolferine> stephen, coder?
[08:59] <seelenpuzzle> how can i install beryl under kubuntu
[09:00] <stephen> no wolferine
[09:00] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !beryl | seelenpuzzle
[09:00] <ubotu> seelenpuzzle: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:00] <NickPresta> seelenpuzzle, http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Feisty_with_XGL
[09:01] <stephen> can someone point me to a tutorial on installing apps
[09:01] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Some one should change that to say "You can get help in #ubuntu-effects ". It sounds like it's telling you to go help them, rather than saying you can get help there.
[09:01] <KrAmMeR> does anyone know how to make or would know where to find out how to make a "asoundconf" script to switch default sound cards?
[09:01] <wolferine> stephen, google 'ubuntu guide'
[09:01] <BluesKaj> WhtWolfTeraDyne, those ppl at 'effects' are rude and unhelpful , make fun of your pc if you don't have the latest graphics stuff
[09:02] <stephen> OMG it says configuring sun java and has a ok button
[09:02] <stephen> but i cant press it
[09:02] <Daisuke-Ido> wolferine: jre = runtime, jdk = development
[09:02] <Daisuke-Ido> he wants the jre if he's NOT a coder
[09:02] <wolferine> Daisuke-Ido, i know
[09:02] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> BluesKaj: Sounds like another channel I know.
[09:02] <BluesKaj> stephen you have to agree to their licence
[09:02] <Daisuke-Ido> stephen: hit tab and it should highlight
[09:03] <stephen> ok
[09:03] <stephen> done thx
[09:03] <miles> jdk is mad sick crazy
[09:03] <miles> jdk 1.6 ftw
[09:03] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, hey, NTSC worked with colours
[09:03] <miles> hey im just letting yall know, kubuntu is killin windows
[09:03] <Schuenemann> thanks
[09:04] <miles> i just wish i could get flash cookin on an amd
[09:04] <miles> gnash isnt that good yet
[09:04] <Daisuke-Ido> miles: flash-plugin-nonfree?
[09:04] <stephen> thanks
[09:04] <Daisuke-Ido> flashplugin-nonfree that is
[09:05] <miles> you see, i went to the adobe site and dl'd the linux tar
[09:05] <Daisuke-Ido> that's a workable solution as well
[09:05] <miles> but you need an x86, im on x86_64
[09:05] <Daisuke-Ido> ooh
[09:05] <miles> yea
[09:05] <Daisuke-Ido> you're using the 64 bit version of ubuntu?
[09:05] <miles> i was reading some kind of work around with nsplugin, but i wasnt up for it
[09:05] <miles> yea i am
[09:06] <Schuenemann> can't the 64bit run the 32bit?
[09:06] <Daisuke-Ido> not that i'm challenging the wisdom of your choice, but why?
[09:06] <miles> why i picked x86_64?
[09:06] <Daisuke-Ido> Schuenemann: 32 bit what?  flash?  ubuntu?
[09:06] <Daisuke-Ido> why you picked the 64 bit version of ubuntu rather than the 32 bit
[09:06] <Schuenemann> Daisuke-Ido, flash, in this case
[09:06] <BluesKaj> WhtWolfTeraDyne, when I tried suse a couple of yrs ago ppl there were a mixed bag, some were great and really helped , others sneered cuz i was running a really old pc i had built from diff parts ...I managed to make it work ok on suse but the repos system sucks
[09:07] <Daisuke-Ido> Schuenemann: nspluginwrapper
[09:07] <Schuenemann> so, why he's having problems with flash?
[09:07] <miles> i read an article about the state of 64bit linux, i never tried 64 bit linux, i figured, why not?
[09:07] <Daisuke-Ido> miles: that's a good reason
[09:07] <miles> not much of an upgrade imo
[09:07] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> BluesKaj: ?
[09:07] <miles> i guess the only real benefit is for large numbers in programming
[09:07] <Schuenemann> I thought 64bits would be a lot faster
[09:08] <Daisuke-Ido> i have to admit i thought i'd get the typical answer to that: "i have a 64 bit processor, i HAVE to use the 64 bit version!11!!!"
[09:08] <Schuenemann> well, of course
[09:08] <Schuenemann> why would be buy a 64bit processor if he will be running 32 bits programs?
[09:08] <Schuenemann> he buy*
[09:08] <Daisuke-Ido> Schuenemann: because all AMD makes is 64 bit processors now?
[09:08] <BluesKaj> WhtWolfTeraDyne, just remembering how some ppl can be so rude , like in the 'effects' chat
[09:09] <Daisuke-Ido> and intel's really close to that?
[09:09] <Schuenemann> it's like having a powerful computer to play solitaire on windows =)
[09:09] <ardchoille> lol
[09:09] <Daisuke-Ido> Schuenemann: 32 vs 64 isn't really a measure of "power"
[09:09] <miles> yea
[09:09] <Schuenemann> yeah, it wasn't a very nice example
[09:09] <miles> it has more to do with the width of the highway
[09:09] <Daisuke-Ido> but right now, all of the most compatible software is 32 bit
[09:10] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> BluesKaj: Ah. I was thinking of the Firefox chatroom, when I had problems with it bringing down a dual-core Pentium D with 1GB of RAM.
[09:10] <BluesKaj> heh , wife plays solitaire on her 366mhz HP ...she's quite happy with it ;0
[09:10] <miles> i wish i had an AMD with dual cores...i like how linux lets you specify how many cores you want to use to compile something
[09:11] <miles> they have some decent x2 AMDs out now for pretty cheap, i might cop one
[09:11] <zorglu_> q. there is a kindof script which is launched each time i run a command, the stuff supposed to detect which package i need to install to launch a given command, that i dont have available, what is the name of this feature/script ?
[09:11] <Schuenemann> Always use the best: Linux for servers, Mac for graphics, Palm for mobility and Windows for solitaire
[09:11] <zorglu_> sorry poorly ex[plained
[09:11] <BluesKaj> miles  , I tried the 64bit kubuntu , had hardware driver probs ...switched back to 32
[09:11] <miles> laff @ schuenemann
[09:11] <miles> yea, i couldnt get my wireless nic pci card to work
[09:11] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Schuenemann: I use Linux for desktop, and Windows for storage. >_>;
[09:12] <Schuenemann> storage?
[09:12] <miles> at work, we always want to do everything on a linux box, but when its crunch time we are always like "fuck it, throw it on windowS"
[09:12] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Schuenemann: My desktop has Windows on it for my grandfather's poker game. I use it to store my files.
[09:13] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !ohmy | miles
[09:13] <ubotu> miles: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:13] <raylu> you should use the linux for storage
[09:13] <miles> omg sorry
[09:13] <raylu> since windows has drivers to read/write ext
[09:13] <Schuenemann> aren't you afraid of viruses destroying your files, WhtWolfTeraDyne?
[09:13] <miles> virus is a broad term
[09:13] <Daisuke-Ido> drivers i've never been able to get working :\
[09:13] <raylu> eh? i got the ifs stuff going on the first try
[09:13] <BluesKaj> solitaire runs nicely on linux too ...why switch ? :)
[09:13] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Schuenemann: Yes, but the only other choice right now is to let him use my laptop for the game...
[09:13] <raylu> sell, second, because it didn't quite have a drive letter that i wanted
[09:13] <Daisuke-Ido> BluesKaj: patience :D
[09:14] <Jeroenlabass> hi all someone uses Rubytk?
[09:14] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !someone
[09:14] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:14] <raylu> WhtWolfTeraDyne, can your linux write to your windows drive?
[09:14] <Jeroenlabass> lol
[09:14] <BluesKaj> heh' patience'is the name for solitaire in swedish
[09:14] <raylu> !rubytk
[09:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rubytk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:14] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, I don't know, maybe there wasn't when they invented that phrase
[09:14] <Schuenemann> not only swedish
[09:14] <raylu> !info rubytk
[09:14] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> raylu: It's on another machine, so yes, it can via Samba.
[09:14] <ubotu> Package rubytk does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:14] <BluesKaj> hehe m Schuenemann
[09:15] <zorglu_> q. there is a kindof script which is launched each time i run a command, the stuff supposed to detect which package i need to install to launch a given command, that i dont have available, what is the name of this feature/script ?  like if i type 'vlc' it tells me 'install videolan'
[09:15] <Jeroenlabass> well i get rubytk started but with an syntax error near token "("
[09:15] <Schuenemann> I think it's because it requires a lot of patience for shuffling and setting the game up, not really for playing
[09:15] <raylu> zorglu_, are you running these commands in a konsole?
[09:15] <zorglu_> raylu: yes
[09:15] <Schuenemann> WhtWolfTeraDyne, why not a small partition for his patience and the rest for your files (on linux)
[09:15] <raylu> and you're on feisty?
[09:15] <zorglu_> raylu: ys
[09:15] <zorglu_> raylu: yes
[09:15] <Schuenemann> his solitaire*
[09:15] <miles> feisty pwnz teh no0b hax0rz
[09:16] <raylu> o.0 =\
[09:16] <zorglu_> raylu: i just need the name of the feature. to disable it
[09:16] <raylu> teh noob hax0rz get pwned by windows too; nobody cares about them :P
[09:16] <raylu> zorglu_, to disable or to enable it?
[09:16] <miles> o jeez!
[09:16] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Schuenemann: On my laptop?
[09:16] <zorglu_> raylu: disable it. this is a python script which is bugged and display bad stuff on terminal when i do 'ctrl-c'
[09:17] <miles> 
[09:17] <miles> woops
[09:17] <stephen> hmmm
[09:17] <Schuenemann> WhtWolfTeraDyne, ahh, the desktop has windows only?
[09:17] <stephen> whats the command line to install rar?
[09:18] <raylu> sudo aptitude install rar?
[09:18] <Schuenemann> sudo apt-get install unrar
[09:18] <raylu> what are the advantages of apt-get over aptitude? everyone seems to like apt-get better
[09:18] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Schuenemann: Yup. I'd love to give that desktop to him and get me a Dellbuntu. Which is probably what I'll end up doing...
[09:18] <zorglu_> it is hard to disable a feature when even the name is unknown :)
[09:18] <novice> why would you want to use rar?
[09:18] <Schuenemann> I think aptitude has advantages
[09:18] <Daisuke-Ido> aptitude handles dependencies a little better
[09:18] <stephen> woot
[09:18] <stephen> its installed
[09:18] <stephen> thx
[09:18] <raylu> novice, i think he just has some rar files...
[09:19] <raylu> that's what i thought; so why do people uses apt-get?
[09:19] <novice> poor him
[09:19] <stephen> ive only just installed linux you tard
[09:19] <Daisuke-Ido> for instance, if you're installing, say, ubuntu-desktop, use aptitude, because if you choose to remove it, aptitude will remove dependencies that are no longer needed
[09:19] <Schuenemann> novice, what's wrong with rar?
[09:19] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !ohmy | stephen
[09:19] <ubotu> stephen: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:19] <novice> what are its benefits?
[09:19] <stephen> ubotu stfu for one
[09:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stfu for one - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:19] <stephen> once*
[09:19] <ardchoille> raylu: Because apt-get is fast and I don't need a pseudo-gui
[09:19] <Daisuke-Ido> stephen: it's a bot
[09:19] <zorglu_> stephen: stay polite
[09:19] <stephen> i know
[09:20] <Schuenemann> I don't know... what are the benefits of non-rar?
[09:20] <stephen> its an annoying bot
[09:20] <Daisuke-Ido> it's a necessary bot
[09:20] <raylu> ardchoille, apt-get isn't faster than aptitude, as far as i can tell
[09:20] <andrea> hi, is there anyone can help me with compiz, i installed it with adept, but then?
[09:20] <ardchoille> raylu: Personal preference I suppose
[09:21] <miles> then you launch it
[09:21] <ardchoille> andrea: You might wanna join #ubuntu-effects
[09:21] <raylu> but, afaik, aptitude does everything apt-get does...just some things better
[09:21] <andrea> launch it from where?
[09:21] <novice> @ubotu what is your purpose?
[09:21] <miles> apt-get is only 7 chars, whereas aptitude is 8
[09:21] <raylu> lol...
[09:22] <Schuenemann> not really an issue with tab completion
[09:22] <raylu> apti -tab is easier to hit than apt- -tab
[09:22] <BluesKaj> stephen , a lot of ppl have helped and tried to help you today so pls show a little patience and civilty ...ppl here are volunteers
[09:22] <Schuenemann> brb
[09:22] <miles> oic, i didnt know about -tab
[09:23] <zorglu_> stephen: stay polite
[09:23] <miles> see, i knew you could do that with files and dirs, i didnt know you could do that for commands...i guess it makes sense as long as they are in your PATH
[09:23] <novice> rar is proprietary - that's what i dislike about it
[09:23] <zorglu_> raylu: for info, the feature name was "command-not-found'
[09:23] <ardchoille> stephen: It does little good to get mad at the bot, perhaps you should talk to the person(s) using the bot triggers. fwiw, I'd be lost without the bot.
[09:23] <zorglu_> sudo apt-get remove command-not-found command-not-found-data <- raylu and this is th ecommand to remove it
[09:25] <miles> Qt: 3.3.7
[09:25] <miles> KDE: 3.5.6
[09:25] <miles> kde-config: 1.0
[09:25] <miles> cool
[09:26] <miles> Uptime: 1 hours and 5 minutes
[09:26] <GrahamA> It's awesome when everything works... I'm so smug right now House is envious :)
[09:27] <miles> how do you leave a message liek that when you leave?
[09:27] <miles> Sysinfo for 'nzxt': Linux 2.6.20-15-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: AMDAthlon643800+ at 1000 MHz (2016 bogomips), , RAM: 1202/2012MB, 107 proc's, 1.6h up
[09:27] <Schuenemann>  /quit message?
[09:27] <GrahamA> /quit Message here
[09:27] <miles> that is so sick
[09:27] <zorglu_> bogomips is what matter :)
[09:27] <Schuenemann> how do you output that sysinfo?
[09:27] <miles> "/exec sysinfo"
[09:27] <miles> Sysinfo for 'nzxt': Linux 2.6.20-15-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: AMDAthlon643800+ at 1000 MHz (2016 bogomips), , RAM: 1202/2012MB, 106 proc's, 1.6h up
[09:28] <GrahamA> miles: You using Konversation?
[09:28] <miles> yea
[09:28] <GrahamA> Press F8
[09:28] <Schuenemann> just /sysinfo will do
[09:28] <miles> i got beryl running, f8 does the expose
[09:28] <stephen> lol
[09:28] <stephen> oops
[09:28] <Schuenemann> Sysinfo for 'otto-desktop': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running KDE 3.5.7, CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1500MHz at 1500 MHz (3004 bogomips), HD: 25/97GB, RAM: 338/376MB, 92 proc's, 1.52h up
[09:28] <stephen> i thought it set a message
[09:28] <GrahamA> Settings > Identities
[09:29] <GrahamA> Beryl is fun :)
[09:29] <DarkWizzard> try Compiz-fusion
[09:29] <DarkWizzard> even more fun :D
[09:29] <DarkWizzard> and a lot more stable :D
[09:29] <miles> yea...i used to think it just looked cool, but it really does increase productivity like they say
[09:29] <Schuenemann> !bogomips
[09:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bogomips - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:29] <meatwad64> hi anyone know a good way to troubleshoot why sound is non-existant in kde?
[09:29] <GrahamA> Compiz-fusion is awesome, I like it more, mostly because beryl didn't work for me :)
[09:29] <Tm_T> !sound | meatwad64
[09:29] <ubotu> meatwad64: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[09:29] <stephen> yes i have the same problem mate
[09:29] <miles> type /sysinfo
[09:29] <miles> Sysinfo for 'nzxt': Linux 2.6.20-15-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: AMDAthlon643800+ at 1000 MHz (2016 bogomips), , RAM: 1202/2012MB, 107 proc's, 1.8h up
[09:29] <miles> that is so sweet
[09:30] <miles> so new to IRC <----------
[09:30] <DarkWizzard> by the chance did anyone here use clamav ?
[09:30] <Schuenemann> what are bogomips? The 'BOGO' part?
[09:30] <GrahamA> Sysinfo for 'sparta': Linux 2.6.20-16-386 running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: AMDAthlonXP1800+ at 1573 MHz (3149 bogomips), , RAM: 617/757MB, 101 proc's, 47.5min up
[09:30] <zorglu_> miles: hehe :) it shows
[09:30] <DarkWizzard> for checking mails
[09:30] <GrahamA> Heh, my computer is called sparta
[09:30] <Tm_T> Schuenemann: wikipedia helps, it's long story
[09:30] <DarkWizzard> Sysinfo for 'DarkNet': Linux 2.6.20-15-generic running KDE 3.5.7, CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.66GHz at 2679 MHz (5363 bogomips), HD: 1/1GB, RAM: 490/503MB, 159 proc's, 1.12h up
[09:30] <zorglu_> Schuenemann: some invalid way to estimate cpu speed
[09:30] <Tm_T> please, stop that spamming
[09:30] <zorglu_> !offtopic
[09:30] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[09:31] <Schuenemann> yeah, I know what are mips
[09:31] <zorglu_> the /exec stuff being offtopic :)
[09:31] <GrahamA> Tm_T: DON'T RUN OVER THOSE CHILDREN!
[09:31] <Tm_T> GrahamA:
[09:31] <Schuenemann> BogoMips (from "bogus" and MIPS)
[09:31] <Schuenemann> hehe
[09:31] <stephen> whats the other gui installer apart from adept
[09:31] <stephen> and whats the command to install
[09:31] <miles> synaptic
[09:31] <miles> apt-get install <<package>>
[09:31] <stephen> lol
[09:31] <stephen> im a dumbass
[09:31] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> How do you change your local domain name? Like "user@domain:~$", the"domain" part.
[09:32] <zorglu_> stephen: stay polite
[09:32] <miles> domain part is the hostname for your computer
[09:32] <stephen> sorry
[09:32] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> miles: Ok, how do you change the hostname?
[09:32] <Tm_T> WhtWolfTeraDyne: /etc/ has files related to it, can't remember which without checking
[09:32] <miles> not sure, i beleive its in /etc/hostname
[09:32] <Tm_T> that and some other yes
[09:32] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Tm_T: Ok. miles: Ok, thanks.
[09:33] <GrahamA> Go to network settings in control centre, it's in there
[09:33] <DarkWizzard> WhtWolfTeraDyne: man hostname
[09:33] <miles> yea you could do it that way to
[09:33] <GrahamA> System settings even
[09:33] <max__> y des francais?
[09:33] <Tm_T> !fr | max__
[09:33] <ubotu> max__: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:33] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> GrahamA: Ok, thanks.
[09:33] <Tm_T> max__: here english only
[09:34] <miles> non parlez vous l'anglais
[09:34] <novice> vraiment?
[09:35] <zorglu_> the channel is in a chatting mood :)
[09:35] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Found it! System Setitngs > Network Settings > Network Connections > Domain Name System . Thanks GrahamA.
[09:35] <GrahamA> miles: You do speak enlgish!
[09:35] <GrahamA> WhtWolfTeraDyne: Have fun
[09:35] <radioaktivstorm> hello, so can anyone tell me why kde is completely ignorant of the demensions of my screen? T_T
[09:35] <miles> wait
[09:35] <miles> yea, i said that worng haha
[09:35] <BluesKaj> Daisuke-Ido, that blog http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2006/04/20/linux-a-european-threat-to-our-computers-by-tristan.aspx is hilarious ...it actually sounds like something that icebitch Ann Coulter might write in her column :)
[09:35] <miles> its not kde, its x11
[09:35] <miles> are you using a laptop?
[09:35] <radioaktivstorm> yes
[09:35] <GrahamA> Run xrandr
[09:35] <miles> is it intel based chipset?
[09:35] <DarkWizzard> radioaktivstorm: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:35] <novice> est-qu'il y a des francaises ici?
[09:36] <zorglu_> !fr | novice
[09:36] <ubotu> novice: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:36] <Tm_T> !fr | novice
[09:36] <Tm_T> bah
[09:36] <zorglu_> :)
[09:36] <radioaktivstorm> DarkWizzard and that wll fix the problem where i open dialogs and they are longer than my screen?
[09:36] <novice> pourquoi non?
[09:36] <DarkWizzard> hmm
[09:36] <DarkWizzard> what kde version ?
[09:37] <DarkWizzard> no it wont
[09:37] <radioaktivstorm> oh.
[09:37] <DarkWizzard> and what resolution
[09:37] <meatwad64> weird that sound works fine in gnome but not in kde
[09:37] <Schuenemann> !fr | novice
[09:37] <miles> type /exec kdeversion
[09:37] <meatwad64> anyone seen that?
[09:37] <ubotu> novice: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:37] <miles> type "/exec kdeversion"
[09:37] <Tm_T> novice: please use english here
[09:37] <novice> merci beaucoup  les bots
[09:37] <miles> Qt: 3.3.7
[09:37] <novice> i'm gonna speak english again
[09:37] <miles> KDE: 3.5.6
[09:37] <miles> kde-config: 1.0
[09:37] <zorglu_> !resolution | radioaktivstorm
[09:37] <ubotu> radioaktivstorm: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:37] <Tm_T> novice: you really should
[09:37] <zorglu_> radioaktivstorm: you can try this url
[09:37] <stephen> bonjour j'emapple stephen ca va?
[09:37] <novice> just checking ;-)
[09:37] <stephen> lol
[09:38] <Schuenemann> novice, you asked the bots for mercy
[09:38] <DarkWizzard> hmm radioaktivstorm: what resolution ?
[09:38] <radioaktivstorm> i was trying out 3.5  on 1280x800 resolution
[09:38] <DarkWizzard> ah
[09:38] <novice> i hope it will be granted
[09:38] <miles> radio: i had the same problem
[09:38] <GrahamA> radioaktivstorm: Run xrandr
[09:38] <DarkWizzard> and the dialogs were longer than the screen ?
[09:38] <miles> there is something with the intel chipset that doesnt allow it to display natively, it actually has to be hacked
[09:38] <radioaktivstorm> its not currently installed right now but i am interested in playing with kde some more
[09:38] <miles> there is a bios fix for it radio, i cant think of what its called right now though
[09:38] <stephen> i cant change the desktop size
[09:38] <stephen> i dunno how
[09:39] <xero> anyone here got experience with agere modems?
[09:39] <radioaktivstorm> i could just never get things to work out nicely everytime the windows were about a million pixels bigger than the screen
[09:39] <miles> 915resolution
[09:39] <miles> radio - apt-get install 915resolution
[09:39] <ardchoille> stephen: Desktop size? Wouldn't that be the screen resolution?
[09:39] <destynova> i caint ad nuthin in ad/remove programs
[09:39] <novice> my desktop is never big enough
[09:39] <radioaktivstorm> hmmm ok
[09:40] <stephen> yes the resolution :D
[09:40] <Tm_T> just to remind you fellows
[09:40] <Tm_T> !offtopic
[09:40] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[09:40] <destynova> ok yay there it goes
[09:40] <destynova> wonder why
[09:40] <stephen> because someone invoked it
[09:41] <Tm_T> destynova: have you tried apt-get or other commandline tools?
[09:42] <stephen> !sound
[09:42] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[09:42] <radioaktivstorm> 915resolution is nott compatible with my chipset
[09:42] <destynova> when i went to ad/remove programs for some reason all the apps were greyed out and i couldnt click any to add
[09:42] <xero> anyone here have any experience with agere modems?
[09:42] <destynova> but for some reason on my third try they were availible
[09:42] <meatwad64> yeah i looked through that and its enabled and sound works fine in gnome but isn't in kde
[09:43] <Tm_T> destynova: heh, I'd blame moon or mars
[09:44] <stephen> destynova update
[09:44] <destynova> i hope that i didnt do anything stupid on accident that's gonna give me problems latter
[09:44] <destynova> this is a 1 day one kubuntu box
[09:44] <destynova> er i mean i'm a 1 day old kubuntu user
[09:44] <stephen> whats that mean?
[09:44] <stephen> same
[09:44] <destynova> its been on my box for a day
[09:44] <stephen> i learnt a few things today
[09:44] <raylu> and you've been using it for the last 24 hours straight?
[09:44] <Tm_T> stephen: I recommend you to join #kubuntu-offtopic ;)
[09:45] <stephen> i dint
[09:45] <stephen> dont*
[09:45] <st1ckly78> i need some help
[09:45] <novice> kubuntu-offtopic is boring
[09:45] <miles> hello
[09:45] <miles> im about to spark a black n mild
[09:45] <Tm_T> novice: but might save from kick or ban ;)
[09:45] <destynova> what are some kewl programs i can get for kde
[09:46] <Schuenemann> !threats | Tm_T
[09:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about threats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:46] <Schuenemann> destynova, what for?
[09:46] <Tm_T> Schuenemann: ?
[09:46] <raylu> lol
[09:46] <Schuenemann> nvm
[09:46] <stephen> how long is a ban?
[09:46] <raylu> destynova, apache, mysql, php, phpmyadmin
[09:46] <novice> :|
[09:46] <Tm_T> stephen: it depends, from hours to years
[09:46] <Schuenemann> forever
[09:46] <stephen> :P
[09:47] <st1ckly78> how do i set up broadband with kubuntu 6.10
[09:47] <raylu> ...that question made no sense
[09:47] <stephen> wtf it should be automatic
[09:47] <st1ckly78> thats what i thought but nothing
[09:47] <GrahamA> Is it a wireless connection
[09:47] <st1ckly78> no its
[09:47] <st1ckly78> wired
[09:48] <stephen> i couldnt use my wifi but ethernet worked straight away
[09:48] <stephen> just plug it in and restart
[09:48] <raylu> st1ckly78, ifconfig
[09:49] <st1ckly78> it shows i am good but when i open up say google in konqueror nothing but an error occured
[09:50] <raylu> st1ckly78, could you pastebin the output?
[09:50] <st1ckly78> give me a sec
[09:50] <raylu> aw :( there's no kubuntu server edition XD
[09:51] <raylu> what's LTS?
[09:51] <Tm_T> raylu: Long Time Support
[09:51] <GrahamA> Term
[09:52] <raylu> oh =\
[09:52] <raylu> ok, 7.04 it is
[09:52] <stephen> i have 7.04
[09:52] <stephen> much better
[09:52] <stephen> allt he apps i want install
[09:52] <GrahamA> raylu: First of all, there is a kubuntu server edition, but why do you want it?
[09:52] <raylu> eh??
[09:52] <raylu> how can there be? why would you have a kubuntu server when the server is text-only?
[09:53] <miles> you could technically still install kde on it though..
[09:53] <miles> wouldnt do much good...
[09:53] <Tm_T> ?
[09:53] <GrahamA> Ok, there USED to be one.
[09:53] <raylu> http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/feisty/
[09:53] <raylu> i see no server
[09:53] <stephen> how do i change the resolution of linux?
[09:53] <raylu> !modeline | stephen
[09:53] <miles> xorg.conf
[09:53] <ubotu> stephen: A Modeline is a config line in the X server configuration file that gives info about a connected display and how to drive it at a specified display resolution. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFree86_Modeline for more details. Here are 2 links to generate modelines which fit your monitor: http://bohne-lang.de/spec/linux/modeline/ and http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl
[09:53] <raylu> holy poop that's a lot of text =\
[09:53] <GrahamA> stephen: xrandr
[09:54] <destynova> can i update my kubuntu withoug having to nuke the   whole drive, aka windows style?
[09:54] <Tm_T> raylu: you called me?
[09:54] <miles> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:17:31:17:DA:3C
[09:54] <miles>           inet addr:192.168.1.2  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[09:54] <miles>           inet6 addr: fe80::217:31ff:fe17:da3c/64 Scope:Link
[09:54] <miles>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[09:54] <miles>           RX packets:96665 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[09:54] <miles>           TX packets:55737 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[09:54] <stephen> yes
[09:54] <miles>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[09:54] <raylu> destynova, update the whole drive? huh?
[09:54] <stephen> you run update
[09:54] <miles>           RX bytes:142945411 (136.3 MiB)  TX bytes:3998496 (3.8 MiB)
[09:54] <GrahamA> How do ou mean update?
[09:54] <miles>           Interrupt:23
[09:54] <raylu> !pastebin  | miles
[09:54] <ubotu> miles: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:54] <miles> lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
[09:54] <miles>           inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
[09:54] <destynova> the os
[09:54] <miles>           inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
[09:54] <ardchoille> !paste
[09:54] <miles>           UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
[09:54] <miles>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[09:54] <miles>           TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[09:54] <stephen> it updated mine to 7.04
[09:54] <ardchoille> Tm_T: thank you
[09:54] <destynova> can i update the os without having to format
[09:54] <stephen> yes
[09:54] <stephen> i said yes lol
[09:54] <destynova> ie, lose all my data
[09:54] <raylu> destynova, yes, from edgy to feisty is safe
[09:54] <Tm_T> ardchoille: sorry for my slowness
[09:55] <miles> i said sorry
[09:55] <miles> jeez
[09:55] <ardchoille> Tm_T: np :)
[09:55] <raylu> destynova, and very safe if your /home is mounted on its own partition
[09:55] <st1ckly78> !pastebin
[09:55] <Tm_T> miles: pastebin is your friend (:
[09:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:55] <raylu> miles, your thing queued your "sorry" and you were still on the lo device when he kicked you
[09:55] <Tm_T> miles: and yes, I stopped the flood, nothing against you personally
[09:56] <miles> o, i was just figuring out how /exec cmd <<cmd>> works
[09:56] <miles> now i know
[09:56] <raylu> so, after i install ubuntu server, can i get kde/gnome on it by just installing the respective desktop package?
[09:56] <Tm_T> miles: you should try that stuff in some private channel
[09:56] <miles> i dont know about private channels
[09:56] <miles> irc is all new to me
[09:56] <st1ckly78> raylu, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30033/
[09:56] <raylu> just /join any channel
[09:56] <Tm_T> miles: /join #miles-is-king
[09:56] <Tm_T> ;-P
[09:56] <miles> no kidding....hold on
[09:57] <raylu> st1ckly78, what error do you get when trying to open a webpage?
[09:57] <miles> can you guys join #miles-is-king?
[09:57] <st1ckly78> an error occured while loading http://www.google.com
[09:57] <st1ckly78> unknown host www.google.com
[09:57] <Tm_T> miles: for what?
[09:57] <stephen> lol
[09:57] <raylu> st1ckly78, http://64.233.187.99/
[09:57] <miles> i mean..could you actually join it?
[09:57] <raylu> try that
[09:57] <miles> if you wanted it
[09:58] <Tm_T> miles: sure
[09:58] <miles> o
[09:58] <raylu> miles, yes
[09:58] <miles> ok, just wondering
[09:58] <Tm_T> miles: unless someone stop with some rule
[09:58] <novice> i thought servers should be installed in text mode only
[09:58] <raylu> novice, they should... they never need a gui
[09:58] <st1ckly78> what the hell
[09:59] <miles> !prof
[09:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about prof - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:59] <raylu> st1ckly78, ?
[09:59] <xianten> @#$% this im goin to play oblivion.
[09:59] <miles> !stallman
[09:59] <ubotu> rms is Richard Matthew Stallman, founder of the GNU project. See !gnu and also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman
[09:59] <st1ckly78> i am good
[09:59] <raylu> ?
[09:59] <hero> !linus
[09:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:59] <chaotic> yeah whats the command  to reconfigure xorg
[09:59] <raylu> !trovalds
[09:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trovalds - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:59] <Tm_T> !botabuse
[09:59] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[09:59] <miles> !torvalds
[09:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about torvalds - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:00] <miles> !linus torvalds
[10:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linus torvalds - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:00] <Tm_T> stop fishing
[10:00] <raylu> dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver, i think
[10:00] <stephen> OMG
[10:00] <novice> so why does raylu want to install kde or gnome on his server?
[10:00] <raylu> chaotic, but i wouldn't trust a script to configure my xorg
[10:00] <raylu> novice, because my server is going to be a worthless server anyway :P
[10:00] <hero> perhaps they should consider disabling ubotu pasting to pub
[10:01] <Tm_T> novice: I do have X and all in my server, so not?
[10:01] <raylu> is there a text-based music player?
[10:01] <hero> raylu: mpg123
[10:01] <Tm_T> raylu: many, like mp3blaster banshee mpg123 etc etc
[10:02] <raylu> o.0, sweet
[10:02] <novice> Tm_T: i was only wondering, because everybody tells you *never* to install a desktop environment on a server - but apparently it isn't that dangerous
[10:02] <raylu> LOL
[10:02] <Tm_T> novice: well it depends what kind of server it is
[10:02] <raylu> [4K^Javax] ,http://mp3blaster.sourceforge.net/#screenshots
[10:02] <raylu> oops =\
[10:02] <raylu> novice, it's stupid, but my server is stupid, so =\
[10:03] <novice> yeah, sorry for asking...
[10:03] <raylu> put it another way, i'm sticking it on a 20gb hd and it's running on a dlink wireless card
[10:03] <Daisuke-Ido> BluesKaj: i'm still trying to figure out if that's even real.
[10:04] <stephen> i cant get sound to work :S
[10:04] <stephen> !sound
[10:04] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:04] <novice> !snd-sb16
[10:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about snd-sb16 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:04] <novice> !soundblaster
[10:04] <ubotu> soundblaster is If you need help with setting up your soundblaster card, then visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundcardsWithHardwareSynth
[10:04] <raylu> There was a (at the time) very popular command-line based mp3 player though, called 'splay'.
[10:04] <raylu> does that still exist?
[10:05] <stephen> OMG
[10:05] <stephen> no soundcards found
[10:05] <xero> does anyone know how to hide a shell window?
[10:05] <Tm_T> xero: what you mean?
[10:05] <chaotic> hey is fiesty the latest kubuntu
[10:05] <stephen> i think so
[10:06] <stephen> its the version that my system got updated to
[10:06] <raylu> chaotic, yes
[10:06] <Daisuke-Ido> the latest released version
[10:06] <raylu> xero, where is htis window?
[10:06] <xero> like i run a command to use my modem... but need to hide the window after i execute
[10:06] <chaotic> when a new comes out can i just update or do i have to reinstall
[10:06] <Daisuke-Ido> in six years we'll have Ubuntu Vista!
[10:06] <Daisuke-Ido> ...
[10:06] <stephen> noooooooooo
[10:06] <stephen> vista = nazis
[10:06] <chaotic> we already do its called beryl lol
[10:06] <Daisuke-Ido> chaotic: when gutsy coems out in october, they should have really refined the upgrade process
[10:07] <Daisuke-Ido> so upgrading should be relatively painless
[10:07] <Tm_T> xero: how about running that command from krundialog, hit alt-f2
[10:07] <Daisuke-Ido> it's gotten better every release so far :D
[10:07] <stephen> mine failed in deleteing obsolete programs
[10:07] <stephen> :(
[10:08] <hero> any other major improvements in gutsy?
[10:08] <xero> what i have now is a shortcut to run the command. is it possible to do thatwith krundialog?
[10:08] <Daisuke-Ido> compiz-fusion
[10:08] <hero> cool
[10:08] <BluesKaj> Daisuke-Ido, luuv that troll site you posted earlier ...thought it was real for a minute ,the rhetoric was so convincing ...right off Fox news :)
[10:08] <hero> what are they calling it now?
[10:09] <Tm_T> xero: it's just like shell, just enter command and done
[10:09] <Daisuke-Ido> that's what they're calling it now :)
[10:09] <Daisuke-Ido> for now at least
[10:09] <hero> oh, i thought there was a different name to beryl-compiz fusion
[10:09] <xero> but can i run it from the desktop? its for my parents...
[10:09] <Daisuke-Ido> i hope they adopt beryl's control panel though
[10:09] <Daisuke-Ido> compiz's, well...  sucks
[10:09] <Daisuke-Ido> hard
[10:10] <stephen> whats the most common soundcard?
[10:10] <BluesKaj> usually soundblaster
[10:10] <Daisuke-Ido> not really
[10:10] <Daisuke-Ido> realtek
[10:10] <stephen> thats the one
[10:10] <stephen> thanks
[10:10] <Daisuke-Ido> ac'97 chipsets
[10:11] <chaotic> realtek comes built in soundblaster is usually an upgrade
[10:11] <Impy^> how can i solve this when i try open add/remove adept installer i get a message saying another process is using the packaging system database please close the other application before using this one
[10:11] <stephen> so is realteck compatible with kubuntu?
[10:11] <hero> if i can't get the menu for konsole to come up, is there another way to disable the audible bell?
[10:11] <raylu> yes
[10:11] <chaotic> not too many people care much about their  audio
[10:11] <stephen> i need audio for naruto
[10:11] <skollie> Impy^: its telling you to close any other package manager you have open...
[10:11] <raylu> Impy^, are any other adepts running?
[10:11] <stephen> how do i enable the sound for my soundcard?
[10:12] <Impy^> i don't think :o
[10:12] <skollie> Impy^: or synaptic?
[10:12] <raylu> Impy^, open a konsole and use "ps -a"
[10:12] <raylu> or Ctrl+Esc
[10:12] <BluesKaj> chaotic, there are alot of audio questions in here , most ppl care aboput their audio setup
[10:12] <Lopin> Does anyone know how to boot off of something other than a CD...
[10:12] <raylu> Lopin, like a hard drive? :P
[10:12] <Lopin> That'll work!
[10:12] <raylu> ^^
[10:13] <raylu> it's possible on a usb disk
[10:13] <Lopin> V.V
[10:13] <raylu> and some recovery methods use a floppy to boot a cd
[10:13] <Impy^> k will try that now raylu cheers =] 
[10:13] <hero> yeah, like disabling the bell
[10:13] <Lopin> I can do floppy, but my computer won't boot off of a usb device...
[10:13] <PhinnFort> AHAHAHA! Suck on this, bash killers and Dash promoters: "It has a real bash shell, because bash's built-ins reduce process loading (forking) at boot time, for faster start-up."
[10:13] <PhinnFort> http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS5060055175.html
[10:13] <Impy^> 5808 pts/1  00.00.00ps
[10:13] <raylu> Lopin, why can't you boot off of a cd? doesn't your bios let you hit keys to do various things?
[10:13] <Lopin> If that was the case, I could use my external cd drive...
[10:14] <Lopin> I have a laptop, and my internal drive is all busted...
[10:14] <Lopin> Just hardware failure...
[10:14] <raylu> Lopin, so...look around your bios screen
[10:14] <Lopin> It tries to boot...  But can't read the disk...
[10:14] <Impy^> raylu when i type ps -a i get 5808 pts/1  00.00.00ps
[10:14] <Impy^> :o
[10:14] <stephen> http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloadAs/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=23&PFid=23&Level=4&Conn=3&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false#AC can someone look at that page and tell me what driver i would need for kubuntu
[10:15] <stephen> there are multiple linux drivers :S
[10:15] <raylu> Impy^, ctrl+esc?
[10:15] <raylu> Lopin, maybe you didn't burn it as bootable?
[10:15] <Lopin> I know that Kubunu is a debian derivative, and that page don't exist!  ^.^!
[10:16] <dopez> anyone ever heard of this problem? when i suspend my laptop (sleep mode) it usually goes okay, but sometimes when i open the lid and it resumes it directly goes back to sleep again, once in a while it even doesnt come up again
[10:16] <Lopin> I know it's not the disk, becuase of two reasons...  1) the computer won't read ANY disks, even when in windows, and 2) I've had all four of my linux disks running on other computers...
[10:16] <raylu> i've heard of lots of suspend problems
[10:16] <raylu> Lopin, I meant in the external
[10:17] <Lopin> Wait, what?
[10:17] <raylu> why can't you boot off the external cd drive?
[10:17] <Lopin> BIOS doesn't support USB devices...
[10:18] <raylu> mine does
[10:18] <Lopin> Four year old Medion Laptop...
[10:18] <raylu> :(
[10:18] <Lopin> I know...
[10:18] <raylu> my computer is at least that old and it found my usb drive :P
[10:19] <Lopin> Well, where would it be in the bios, cause when I have the boot list it only has, Floppy CD and Hard Disk...  Even when there are usb devices plugged in...
[10:19] <raylu> is there a boot menu?
[10:19] <Lopin> I've tried to use a Knoppix Floppy set, but they seem to be a bit volatile...
[10:19] <raylu> as in not a configuration one; just a one-time thing
[10:19] <chaotic> hey python all pkg includes python glk2
[10:20] <Lopin> Yeah...  F12 as I boot...  Only pulls up those devices though, but I've not tried it with my external attached...
[10:20] <raylu> i think it's worth a shot
[10:21] <Lopin> Ever heard of Wubi?
[10:21] <raylu> no
[10:21] <Lopin> It's supposed to install (k)ubuntu from inside windows, and I've heard lots of praise for it...
[10:21] <chaotic> u said  no to my ?
[10:21] <raylu> no @ lopin
[10:21] <raylu> chaotic, your question makes no sense
[10:22] <Lopin> But, when I go to boot, I get an error about RAID...
[10:22] <Lopin> I don't even HAVE raid!
[10:23] <raylu> Lopin, does wubi install ubuntu in its own partition?
[10:23] <Impy^> hmm raylu what should i be looking for when i press ctrl+esc? :o
[10:23] <Lopin> No, you have to do that after you install it...  I'm pretty sure it uses a disk image, that you convert to the partition later...
[10:23] <chaotic> its telling me xorg xserver  is not installed
[10:23] <chaotic> that cant be
[10:24] <Lopin> I already have a partition...
[10:24] <raylu> Impy^, adept, aptitude, apt-get
[10:24] <raylu> Impy^, and dpkg
[10:24] <kuukkeli> how to change sensitivity
[10:24] <Impy^> should i close adept_notifier?
[10:24] <kuukkeli> on kubuntu :P
[10:24] <chaotic> how i  reconfigure xorg
[10:25] <raylu> kuukkeli, kmenu>system settings>mouse
[10:25] <raylu> chaotic, why?
[10:25] <kuukkeli> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:25] <raylu> Impy^, probably won't make a difference, go ahead
[10:25] <level1> what is it in kubuntu that configures multimedia keys automatically?
[10:25] <kuukkeli> chaotic
[10:25] <kuukkeli> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:25] <level1> like play and pause
[10:25] <raylu> level1, i think that's an installer sdript
[10:25] <raylu> *script
[10:25] <level1> raylu: what does it actually do?
[10:26] <Lopin> I'm going to try the one time, and then I'm going to try to use wubi again, and if it doesn't work, I'll be back...
[10:26] <Impy^> nothing there :o
[10:26] <Impy^> what's getty?
[10:26] <faires> erov BluesKaj: FYI: I did the erov suggestion, but with aptitude instead of apt-get
[10:27] <faires> It worked flawlessly...
[10:27] <faires> Thanks a lot...
[10:27] <kuukkeli> raylu, system settings?
[10:27] <kuukkeli> theres settings and system
[10:27] <Novell> weird.. konqueror is refusing to work as browser.. not resolving hosts
[10:27] <faires> (I'm the guy who was trying to update from dapper to edgy)
[10:27] <KrAmMeR> how would i make a shell script executable? so i would just have to double click it...
[10:27] <KrAmMeR> i cant seem to get it to run
[10:27] <Novell> or something like that.. Firefox works fine and host, ping, ssh, etc
[10:27] <KrAmMeR> i can run it from the terminal
[10:27] <KrAmMeR> sh filename
[10:28] <KrAmMeR> but i just want to double click it
[10:28] <kuukkeli> raylu, nothing, found it
[10:29] <skollie> KrAmMeR: : it is called shell script for a reason
[10:30] <kuukkeli> how to change mouse sensitivity
[10:30] <raylu> kuukkeli...i thought you found it?
[10:31] <dodi> ad yg pk bhsa jawa/yg lain.
[10:31] <raylu> ...it takes 60 minutes to burn a ubuntu server iso???
[10:32] <jesus005> fd
[10:32] <kuukkeli> raylu, no it was the same as kcontrol but theres no sensitivity
[10:32] <KrAmMeR> skollie:  ok, can you help me with this?
[10:32] <jesus005> any one can help me
[10:32] <jesus005> with
[10:32] <jesus005> a
[10:32] <jesus005> problem
[10:32] <kuukkeli> raylu, found ;D
[10:33] <skollie> KrAmMeR: shell scripts are intended to run in a shell or terminal. You can create a desltop shortcut to double-click, but you still have to have it open in a terminal
[10:33] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !ask | jesus005
[10:33] <ubotu> jesus005: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:34] <raylu> !id
[10:34] <ubotu> join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[10:34] <jesus005> can anyone help me i install ubuntu 7.04 on my dell latitude c840but the laptops monitor anit working with it i have to use and external monitor
[10:34] <KrAmMeR> skollie: i've read about people being able to do it...
[10:34] <jesus005> no but mine is
[10:34] <skollie> KrAmMeR: yes, it can be done, but you usually have to set it up to run in a terminal.
[10:34] <jesus005> c840
[10:35] <jesus005> but how can i make it work again
[10:35] <jesus005> it does boot
[10:36] <jesus005> any one have a solution to my poblem the screen works at boot but when it boots ubuntu it anit work
[10:36] <jesus005> what
[10:37] <jesus005> ?
[10:37] <jesus005> im a bigginer in ubunu
[10:37] <jesus005> ubuntu
[10:37] <stephen> you have noobuntu yet?
[10:38] <jesus005> what
[10:41] <Impy^> how do i get superuser privilege?
[10:41] <ardchoille> !sudo | Impy^
[10:41] <ubotu> Impy^: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:42] <Impy^> ahh k cheers ardchoille :)
[10:42] <miles>  hey
[10:43] <miles> ubuntu mobile embedded isnt going to be on smartphones
[10:43] <miles> that makes me cry
[10:43] <ardchoille> :)
[10:44] <Impy^> ace that sorted my problem out cheers for the help everyone :)
[10:44] <KrAmMeR> skollie: figured it out, I had to make an application link, and tell it to run in terminal
[10:46] <skollie> KrAmMeR: That's what I said...
[10:46] <KrAmMeR> yeah but i didn't know how...
[10:47] <skollie> KrAmMeR: you should have asked. I could have told you ;)
[10:47] <stephen> hmmm
[10:47] <stephen> i have downloaded realtek drivers for linux
[10:48] <stephen> but now i need to install them...
[10:49] <Biovore> stephen: what realtek card..  most of there stuff is alread in the linux kernel..
[10:49] <raylu> o.0
[10:57] <KrAmMeR> stollie: its all good, I learn better by figuring it out
[10:57] <KrAmMeR> : p
[11:01] <fredrik_> Hi all. I have destoyed my partition table. But not rebooted yet. Some distributions (eg. suse) record partition information in a file. Does anyone know if there is such file in Kubuntu?
[11:03] <skollie> KrAmMeR: that's why I did not say anything. I was waiting to see if you would ask...
[11:12] <chaotic> i thgink i finally got ubuntu running just how i like it
[11:12] <chaotic> showuld i say just like i want it
[11:12] <chaotic> that reinstall was my best friend
[11:12] <chaotic> btw i meant kubuntu
[11:13] <chaotic> wow its  quiet now
[11:14] <chaotic> usually theres 4 or 5 questions running thru
[11:17] <chaotic> whats the best mp3 player that has a library like amarok
[11:18] <chaotic> should i say    other than amarok
[11:19] <najib> hey guys how do install new themes?
[11:20] <t_maus> najib: what for themes kdm / kde / firefox ?!
[11:20] <Biovore> najib: www.kde-look.org
[11:20] <najib> yes i already found a theme but how do i install it?
[11:20] <skollie> chaotic: apparently rhythmbox does, but since I've never used it, I cannot confirm
[11:21] <t_maus> there is a package kdmthememanger oder something
[11:21] <chaotic> im just trying to find something like windows media player
[11:22] <t_maus> mplayer ?!
[11:22] <najib> does anybody know how to install themes?
[11:23] <Biovore> najib: you installing a new color scheme or a widget scheme?
[11:23] <najib> Biovore: an icon theme
[11:23] <Biovore> most icon themes are tarballs..
[11:23] <najib> Biovore: meaning?
[11:23] <Biovore> you have to expand them to ~/.icons
[11:23] <Biovore> ussualy..
[11:24] <martijn> hello
[11:24] <najib> Biovore: ok how do i do that
[11:25] <Biovore> http://www.kde-look.org/help/index.php?type=27
[11:25] <Biovore> ^ instructions :-)
[11:25] <t_maus> n8 guys
[11:25] <martijn> i was wondering, i'd like to have a tool in konqueror that shows me translates a word for me in the context menu, so; i select a word, and translations in a predefined language should appear when i right click it. Does anyone knows whether something alike exists?
[11:25] <Biovore> if the icons you downloaded are just images.. you have to manual install them your self.. no automation..
[11:25] <chaotic> downloading mplayer  im checking it out
[11:26] <najib> Biovore: where is the control center?
[11:26] <Biovore> run kcontrol
[11:26] <Biovore> I think on ubuntu they hide it from you in favor of the mac looking thing..
[11:27] <najib> Biovore: i am new to this kubntu but exactly where do i type that in?
[11:30] <najib> Biovore: can i access the control center from the KDE menu?
[11:30] <Latty> Hey all, trying to upgrade to gutsy and getting an error on trying to install a few packages
[11:31] <Biovore> najib: No.. it not on there..  type kcontrol in a bash shell
[11:31] <najib> Biovore: lol what is a bashshell
[11:31] <pedro_> hello
[11:32] <Biovore> najib: konsole..  the command line interface
[11:32] <Latty> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libkdepim1a_4%3a3.5.7-1ubuntu5_i386.deb (--unpack):
[11:32] <Latty>  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/apps/kdepim/icons/crystalsvg/22x22/actions/checkedbox.png', which is also in package korganizer
[11:32] <Latty> Being the error
[11:32] <chaotic> hey where can i get more themes for theme manager
[11:32] <stephen> can someone help me install the realtek drivers please?
[11:32] <Biovore> chaotic: www.kde-look.org
[11:32] <stephen> for audio :D
[11:33] <Biovore> stephen: what realtek device is it?
[11:33] <chaotic> thats def getting bookmarked
[11:33] <Biovore> it should work..
[11:33] <najib> Biovore: where is it?
[11:33] <martijn> najib: Konsole
[11:33] <martijn> is a bashshell normally
[11:33] <vecina> Great. I ran an upgrade and now all my graphics are slow
[11:33] <Biovore> or you can do the run command option and type kcontrol in it..
[11:34] <najib> martijn: i know but where is it?
[11:34] <Biovore> vecina: using a ATI/NVidia card and upgraded your kernel I guess..
[11:34] <stephen> its a audio one biovore
[11:34] <stephen> i think ac 97
[11:34] <Biovore> stephen: type lspci into a console..
[11:34] <vecina> Biovore: Huh?
[11:35] <Biovore> vecina: you using a ATI or nvidia card?
[11:35] <najib> Biovore: where is konsole?
[11:35] <vecina> Biovore: ATI
[11:35] <stephen> realtek semiconductor
[11:35] <Biovore> I can't really tell you.. I have my menus all different here..
[11:35] <Biovore> stephen: Need a chip number..
[11:35] <chaotic> which kde  does kubuntu have
[11:35] <Biovore> chaotic: 3.5 I think
[11:36] <Biovore> (feisty)
[11:36] <chaotic> anyhow to verify that
[11:36] <stephen> RTL-8139/8139C/8139 i think thats it
[11:36] <marco__> can anyone help me to install the ubuntu 7.04 ?
[11:36] <Biovore> stephen: those should work out of the box..
[11:36] <chaotic> yeah i got fiesty
[11:36] <stephen> just run the update marcus
[11:36] <stephen> they dont biovore :(
[11:36] <stephen> it says no sound cards installed
[11:37] <stephen> and there is an X over the sound icon
[11:37] <Biovore> hmm RTL-8139 is a network card..
[11:37] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> chaotic: 3.5.6 is the latest version of KDE in Kubuntu. You can add repos for 3.5.7, though.
[11:37] <stephen> i tohught so
[11:37] <vecina> bleeh
[11:37] <stephen> lol
[11:37] <Biovore> stephen: And those do work.. I have one..
[11:37] <najib> ok now the question is what version of KDE do i have?
[11:38] <stephen> Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 AC'97 Audio   Controller (rev 80)
[11:38] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> najib: Alt+F2 and use "kcontrol" as the command. It should say on the first screen.
[11:38] <Biovore> najib: go up to "run command" and type kcontrol
[11:38] <Biovore> is all in there..
[11:38] <nagyv> hello I would like to help my brother to switch from XP to Ubuntu, I use Kubuntu. Could someone give me step-by-step instructions (or a link), how to set-up remote access to his desktop? (remote desktop, not just ssh, to show him what I do)
[11:39] <Latty> I have this bug, can anyone tell me how to work around it? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/119664/
[11:39] <Biovore> stephen: hmm ATI audio might be a pain.. all propritary.. I am not sure if they do work in linux..
[11:39] <stephen> :(
[11:39] <najib> WhtWolfTeraDyne: can i get an update to 4.0
[11:39] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> najib: I'm sure there are repos for that somewhere.
[11:39] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !kde4
[11:39] <ubotu> For information on KDE 4 (not to be released for quite some time yet), see: http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html. Also worth checking are: appeal/phonon/plasma/solid.kde.org
[11:39] <nagyv> vpn
[11:39] <nagyv> !vpn
[11:39] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[11:40] <nagyv> !factoids
[11:40] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:40] <Biovore> Latty: gutsy is beta ware and no one supports it..  Its a dependency problem they will probably fix as it gets closer to release..
[11:40] <stephen> so biovore is there anyway to get sound?
[11:40] <Latty> Biovore: Yeah, but is there any way I can get this to go through?
[11:40] <Biovore> stephen: no clue..  I have never messed with that card.
[11:40] <stephen> !sound
[11:40] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:41] <Biovore> Latty: try a apt-get install -f
[11:41] <Latty> Biovore: Done, that's what gives me the output
[11:41] <Biovore> you try unstalling the conflicting package using dpkg?
[11:42] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Latty: If you're having problems with Gutsy, you could ask in #ubuntu+1. They might have more info about it.
[11:43] <Latty> WhtWolfTeraDyne: Thanks, I'll try that
[11:43] <Biovore> Latty: The other option is to download the .deb package and force install using dpkg and tell it ignore all deps.
[11:44] <Latty> Biovore: I'll look into that
[11:45] <assaurios> hi men
[11:45] <assaurios> there are any channel of spanish support?
[11:45] <Biovore> !es
[11:45] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:45] <assaurios> Biovore: gracias :)
[11:46] <Biovore> no problemo
[11:49] <chaotic> how do i get the mp3 plugin for amarok
[11:50] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> chaotic: "sudo aptitude install libxine1-ffmpg"
[11:51] <chaotic> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "libxine1-ffmpg"
[11:52] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> sorry. It's "sudo aptitude install libxine1-ffmpeg"
[11:52] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> I don't know why I always forget the "e"
[11:54] <chaotic> thankyou so much
[11:54] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> chaotic: No problem.
[11:54] <chaotic> thats the reason i went to xmms last time
[11:55] <nagyv> could someone help me with a vnc connection? I would like to administer a machine in Hungary from Ireland, my brother will set up the server, but we need some help.
[12:00] <skollie> nagyv: what help do you need?
[12:01] <nagyv> I don't know what client program to use, is vncviewver the preferred option under KDE?
[12:01] <Darkrift> i used to use putty to do that, but it was command line only
[12:02] <waylandbill> nagyv: krdc
[12:02] <waylandbill> nagyv: works with not only vnc but windows terminal services if you have a need to connect to one of those.
[12:02] <Darkrift> nice
[12:02] <skollie> nagyv: which is under Menu-->Internet
[12:03] <nagyv> I have found it, but no idea what to write in it :\
[12:03] <livejack> can someone help me out with a problem for ubuntu on PPC?
[12:03] <waylandbill> the terminal services requires rdesktop to be installed too.
[12:04] <skollie> nagyv: the address of the server you want to connect to, to begin with
[12:04] <waylandbill> nagyv: you need to use the ip address for the LAN unless you are going over the internet in which case you need the WAN address of your router.
[12:05] <waylandbill> nagyv: additionally you need an open port.
[12:05] <skollie> waylandbill: in nagyv's case remote is really remote - Hungary and Ireland
[12:06] <skollie> nagyv: is it correct that you will be the client and not the server?
[12:06] <nagyv> skollie: yes
[12:07] <skollie> nagyv: do you know the address of the server that you want to connect to?
[12:07] <nagyv> I am just trying vncviewer -via ser.ver.ips.dress server-name:0
[12:08] <nagyv> yes, but I think my brother is just setting up port forwarding
[12:08] <nagyv> is it port 22?
[12:08] <SlimeyPete> port 22 is ssh
[12:08] <skollie> nagyv: What is your brother running, a VNC server?
[12:08] <nagyv> vino
[12:08] <Alethes> can somebody give me an idea of what module needs to be loaded to suport an NEC usb controller pci card?
[12:09] <nagyv> just the basic ubuntu thingy
[12:09] <chaotic> hey guys i forgot how to install deb packages is  it sudo dpg1 -i name.deb
[12:09] <SlimeyPete> sudo dpkg -i name.deb
[12:09] <chaotic> i think im missing something
[12:09] <skollie> nagyv: it will definetelly not be 22 - for VNC server it 5 something, but cannot remember
[12:09] <nagyv> actually vncviewer talks about port 22
[12:10] <nagyv> !paste
[12:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:10] <skollie> nagyv: if you tunnel through ssh, yes
[12:10] <vzduch> skollie, nagyv: http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers
[12:10] <felipe_> algum br ai pode me dar umas dicas por favor?
[12:10] <felipe_> :)
[12:11] <vzduch> VNC server is 5900
[12:11] <vzduch> !br | felipe_
[12:11] <ubotu> felipe_: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[12:11] <nagyv> vzduch: thx