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nagyvskollie: could you please check this paste? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30049/12:17
Biovorethat looks like its trying to tunnel over ssh...12:18
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skollienagyv: checking..12:20
nassimhi12:20
nassimya qqn ?12:21
skollienagyv: are the ports open?12:21
nagyv!fr12:21
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:21
nassimno no12:21
nassimit's ok12:21
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nagyvthere is  a router, and my brother forwarded them to his own computer12:22
nassimwhere r u from nagyv ?12:22
nagyvI don't know if the connecion refused comes from the router or the server12:22
skollienagyv: is ssh running?12:22
zarbahey!12:22
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vzduchnagyv: you're good, I wouldn't have recognized that as French ;)12:22
zarbahow R U12:22
zarba?12:23
nassimfine thnx12:23
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nassimand u zabra ?12:23
zarbafine thx12:23
nassimzarba *12:23
zarba@nassim what?12:23
nassimwhere r u    from ?12:23
zarbafrance12:23
zarbaand U12:23
zarba?12:23
nassimi'm from algeria12:23
zarbaokay12:24
nassimnew in linux :p12:24
skollie!offtopic | nassim12:24
ubotunassim: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!12:24
skollie!offtopic | zarba12:24
ubotuzarba: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!12:24
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nagyvvzduch: I was living there for an year, and I know that they think it's fancy, am I right nassim? :)12:24
nassimwe can't talk on this chanel right ?12:25
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skollienassim: you can if it's related to ubuntu support12:25
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nassimok i have a question then he he he12:25
nick86ciao a tutti!!!12:25
skolliego ahead nassim12:26
nassimmy microphone don't record any voice12:26
nassimi can hear myself but nothing on skype12:26
vzduchnassim: make sure it's not muted (KMix/alsamixer)12:26
nick86qualche ita???12:26
nassimno it's not12:26
nagyvskollie: ssh is running12:26
vzduch!it | nick8612:27
ubotunick86: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!12:27
nick86ok grazie 100012:27
vzduchnassim: in my experience there is a switch in KMix that says 'Mix', you need to activate it to be able to send anything12:27
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nassimand in skype option there: it asks me to choose the input device " i have many choices," i tried them all but noone seem to work fine12:28
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skollienagyv: you are also using ports 5599 and 5900. Are they open and being forwarded?12:28
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nagyvskollie: I tried ssh directly, connection is refused12:29
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skollienagyv: what OS is your brother running?12:30
nassimok i'll see12:30
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jabbahello12:31
jabbai just switched from dbian to kubuntu12:31
jabba*debian12:31
vzduchjabba the *buntu-hutt :D12:32
nagyvubuntu dapper drake12:32
jabbain debian i had my own self-baked kernel, but now it'd try to stick to a delivered kernel12:32
nagyvskollie: ^^^12:32
jabbaproblem is, that my dm-crypt partition is now missing sth.12:32
skollienagyv: does he have a firewall sitting behind the router i.e. on his machine and is it allowing ssh connections?12:33
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nagyvskollie: he just installed ubuntu12:33
nagyvskollie: no firewall, but I think he has problems with setting up the router correctly :(12:34
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skollienagyv: the ssh 'connection refused' error usually means the server is not running or the port is not accessible12:34
nagyvskollie: I know, I would like to find out where is this problem coming from, is it from the router or the server?12:35
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jabbaok, forget it12:35
jabbacryptsetup works12:35
jabba:)12:35
jabbamust have mistyped my password12:35
skollienagyv: could be either - if the port is being correctly forwarded, most likely the server12:35
nagyvshould he able to ssh to himself? to check if it's running12:36
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skollienagyv: yes - ssh localhost12:37
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skollienagyv: but even if he can connect to ssh locally, does not mean it will accept remote connections12:38
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nagyvskollie: yes, I know this. and it can not be checked from his own computer?12:41
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skollienagyv: yes - the 'ssh localhost' command12:42
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nagyv:)12:42
gan|y|medhi12:43
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waylandbillnagyv: you can check locally with local host. If it's not accepting remote connections, you can run sshd from a command line manually with -d (or more -d's for more info) and at some debug level it will tell why a remote connection was not allowed assuming the server can be accessed.12:44
lucahi everyone12:45
lucadoes anyone here have a Dell laptop with HDA intel board?12:45
evilmmis there a reason i cant scan a mov file in mplayer?12:45
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milesevilmm - there is no codec for quicktime on linux12:46
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skollienagyv: are you relaying to your brother? Would it not be easier if he joins the channel?12:46
evilmmwell, it runs12:47
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nagyvskollie: hmm, not a bad idea!12:47
evilmmi just cant scan /ff/rew12:47
mileswait, .mov = quicktime format right?12:47
evilmmyes12:47
milesword...i always thought that didnt work on linux12:47
BluesKaj!quicktime12:47
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:47
gan|y|med i got a problem with video playback and beryl/xgl (fglrx drivers). in normal mode (without xgl) video playback takes around 30% cpu usage. with xgl it is ca 70%. the kaffeine gui is flickering and resizing (in general) is very slow12:47
gan|y|medany ideas why?12:48
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Biovoregan|y|med: sounds like you have an ATI card :-P12:49
vzduchgan|y|med: perhaps because Beryl in itself is very processor-time-consuming? o012:49
BiovoreATI's drivers do not support X-Render.. so the video has to be software rendered.... it sucks..12:49
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gan|y|medvzduch: this only happens when resizing or watching movies. otherwise xgl is surprisingly modest12:50
BluesKajmiles, http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Programming/Libraries/Quicktime-for-Linux-257.shtml12:51
gan|y|medBiovore: yes, that's what i said. time that the amd collaboration finally pays off (if ever)12:51
evilmmim just wodering why i cant scan12:52
gan|y|medok, i am not getting any input in ubuntu-effects, and my googling hasn't been that successful, yet. so has anybody got any ideas/related problems?12:52
mileswow, i always wondered why they wouldnt release the codecs for linux12:52
gan|y|medcan it be that it is simply a bad time (clockwise) for asking in the channel?12:56
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chaotichey whats the most popular app for newsgroups in linux12:56
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login_hello , do you know where the kernel irc char is?12:56
BluesKajwell, gan|y|med , running beryl in X and video simultaneously really taxes some ATI cards and the corresponding cpu dump ...I'm not surprised12:57
WhtWolfTeraDynechaotic: I use Kontact with KNode installed. SeaMonkey Suite and Thunderbird are also good choices.12:57
vzduchchaotic: nn, tin, slrn, Pan, KNode (and more).. choose one ;)12:58
chaotici use it to download does it use  nzbs12:58
gan|y|medBluesKaj: any idea, why?12:58
BluesKajnot enuff cache on the graphics card for one and the linux drivers aren't exactly super efficient12:59
login_ I have been compiling kernel 2.6.22 and have run across a dilemna. My compiled kernel weighs in at about 400-500 mb while the ubuntu kernel weighs about 100-200 mb. How did you guys get the kernel to be so thin?While i was uncompressing the kernel i saw it uncompress folders such as sparc so is it possible that my kernel installed all architectures? if so , how can i make it only use 1386?01:00
SlimeyPete100-200mb????01:01
SlimeyPetetry 6 to 7 megabytes01:01
milesuh01:01
gan|y|medBluesKaj: ok, the efficiency of those drivers is out of question. or better, their non-efficiency. but not enough cache?01:01
BluesKajgan|y|med,  a lot of ati owners grieve over the poor linux support so they buy nvidia or intel cards graphics cards for their linux boxes01:01
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gan|y|medi know that. but i am using a notebook, so switching is not an option01:02
gan|y|medit only appears in fullscreen. window mode is fine01:02
waylandbillmore stuff compiled into the kernel means a bigger footprint for one thing. Everything and the kitchen sink doesn't need to be installed into it. :-)01:02
login_could you suggest what i should uninstall? to closely match ubuntus kernel?01:03
waylandbillI don't do anything amazing on my laptop with a ati 200m, so it doesn't bother me. The desktop has an nvidia 7900 though. What a difference.01:03
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underdog5004does tar automatically follow symlinks?01:04
BiovoreI think it does..01:04
WhtWolfTeraDynewaylandbill: I have that same card.01:04
WhtWolfTeraDyneThe ati one01:04
waylandbilllogin_: you could examine the source of the kernel package. Should give you an idea of its configuration.01:04
milesyea i got a 7900 gt, it runs beryl pretty smooth01:04
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waylandbillWhtWolfTeraDyne: the 200m isn't that great. The 7900 is rather fast for a card under 200 dollars (when I purchased it)01:05
Sannelogin_: your ubuntu kernel should have a file /boot/config-$(uname -r) where you can check what's enabled.01:06
waylandbillberyl runs on the 200m, but it's rather choppy at best with a painful installation.01:06
WhtWolfTeraDynewaylandbill: Kinda hard to install a new card into an eMachines m2352 laptop, though. ;)01:06
TooEarlyi just bought an Acer 19inch Widescreen Monitor and I have an ATI 9200 graphics card with the radeon drivers. When I plugged it in (dvi port) it flickered every little movement i made. what could be the problem?01:06
waylandbillWhtWolfTeraDyne: yeah same with my compaq laptop. You get what you get. :-)01:06
BiovoreTooEarly: sounds like an electrical problem..01:07
TooEarlyBiovore: i changed the driver to the vesa driver, and it works fine. except i can't get the resolution over 1280x80001:07
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chaotichow do i run pl files01:08
Biovoreperl <filename.pl>01:08
waylandbillchaotic: perl01:08
chaoticah01:08
Biovorethere text files..01:08
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waylandbillit should have the magic number shabang and the path to perl as the first line of the file when viewed in a text editor, then you can just execute it in a shell and it will run it with perl.01:09
waylandbill#!/usr/bin/perl is usually specified.01:09
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TooEarlyBiovore: any other advice?01:10
trakinashey guys!01:10
trakinashow do I download a package not from feisty faw?01:10
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TooEarlysudo aptitude install01:10
Biovoretrakinas: is it a deb?01:10
chaoticwhat are the perl libs called01:10
trakinasBiovore: oficial one. linux-headers01:10
Biovoreperl modules?01:10
Biovoretrakinas: linux-headers is in the ubuntu repos..01:11
waylandbillchaotic: if you are curious about how a shell interprets script files, check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shebang_%28Unix%2901:11
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milesif you guys dont like windows, i reccomend linux as an alternative01:14
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trakinasBiovore: hence the question01:14
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Biovoretrakinas: sudo apt-get install linux-headers01:14
trakinasBiovore: i need 2.6.1701:14
trakinaswhich isnt on feisty repos.01:14
Biovorerunning dapper?01:15
trakinasBiovore: no. feisty faw.01:15
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Biovorethe linux-headers for a target kernel..01:15
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trakinasi need it so my dvd drive will work.01:15
Biovoreif you need headers for 2.6.17 you have to run 2.6.1701:15
CS5Can someone please help me mount my NTFS volume01:15
Biovore!libdvdread01:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libdvdread - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:15
trakinasBiovore: i know.01:15
trakinasBiovore: no.01:15
miles!ntfs01:15
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse01:15
trakinasBiovore: DVD DATA01:15
miles!bill gates01:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bill gates - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:16
miles!folder01:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about folder - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:16
Biovorewell, basicly.. you can't..  not with out a hell of alot of work..01:16
Biovoretrakinas: Is it a one of those packet written DVD's your tring to read..01:17
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trakinasBiovore: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/11827601:18
Biovoreis it a movie DVD?01:19
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BiovoreBuffer I/O error on device sr0 <-- generaly means the media is toast..01:19
Biovoreunless its a movie DVD.. then its just encrypted01:19
trakinasBiovore: it is not01:20
trakinasbelive me01:20
Biovorethen you disk has an error in it..01:20
trakinasANY media DOES NOT WORK on UBUNTU. but DOES WORK on gentoo01:20
trakinasBiovore: it does not.01:20
trakinasBiovore: i can acess the disk on gentoo01:20
trakinasno problem01:20
trakinasANY DISK01:20
Biovorewell its not a standard DVD FS..  must be some packet written format..01:21
trakinasbut i cant on ubuntu. never could. which makes my dvd drive useless.01:21
BiovoreI have no problems with DVD on linux/window/solaris/BSD01:21
trakinasBiovore: how can you explain it working on gentoo with kernel 2.6.17 and not on ubuntu with a newer kernel?01:21
Biovoredisto shouldn't mater..01:21
trakinasBiovore: I knoe!01:22
trakinas*know01:22
Biovore2.6.17 on gentoo has all the same stuff in 2.6.2001:22
trakinassoooooo01:22
Biovorethe difference might be in what modules are loaded01:22
trakinashow cant it not work?01:22
trakinassee... my cd-rom drive works quite well.01:22
trakinasbut not my dvd drive.01:22
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trakinason ubuntu i mean.01:22
Biovoregento might load a module for packet written CD's that on you ubuntu setup you assume ISO966001:22
trakinason gentoo, both works01:22
chaotichttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30057/01:23
chaotici ge that error what should i do01:23
trakinasBiovore: how can i fix that, then?01:23
Biovoretrakinas: I can tell you if you can tell me what FS format is being used on the DVD01:23
chaoticit    doesnt recognize perl01:23
trakinasBiovore: on the disk/01:23
Biovorechaotic: you need to install the perl modules..01:23
trakinashow can I check that?01:23
Biovoretrakinas: like CD are ISO966001:24
chaoticwhat  are they called01:24
Biovoreif you still have gentoo.. have it mount the disk and they type mount to see what it mounted it as.01:24
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trakinasBiovore: /dev/scd0 on /media/Disco de dados do GnomeBaker type iso966001:25
trakinasBiovore: it does mount the media. but ubuntu CANT access it,01:25
trakinasBiovore: any operation results on a I/O error.01:25
Biovorepop open a shell..01:25
trakinascoping or opening the file01:25
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trakinasBiovore: that's the result for mount.01:26
Biovoretrakinas: you try mounting using the command line?01:26
trakinasBiovore: yes.01:26
trakinasbut even if KDE auto-mounts it i get the same i/o error01:26
Biovorecdrom a scsi cdrom it looks01:26
trakinasBiovore: what? that is my dvd-drive.01:26
trakinasand i isnt scsi.01:26
Biovorescd0 is scsi01:27
trakinasi dont know why the heck it is scsi in ubuntu01:27
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Biovorethis in a laptop?01:27
trakinasno01:27
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Biovoreso a desktop cdrom then?01:27
trakinasBiovore: desktop DVD-ROM01:27
BiovoreIDE parallel cable interface..01:27
trakinasyes01:27
waylandbillchaotic: look at the script and find the uses keyword. Running a perl script, you should really know perl first... otherwise how do you know what it is going to do to your system?01:27
Biovorehmm01:27
Biovoretry a dmesg | grep cdrom01:28
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trakinasBiovore: nothing01:28
Biovoreor scroll though dmesg looking for where you cdrom should be..  /dev/hdb /dev/hdc or something like that..01:28
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trakinasBiovore: every device here is mounted as sc*01:29
waylandbillchaotic:  I could write a script to delete all your files starting with the letter W from your home directory. You can assume everything is safe just because the author claims it is.01:29
waylandbills/can/can't/01:29
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salomon_hi01:30
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Biovoretrakinas: try mounted it as the UDF filesystem.01:30
login_?01:31
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Biovoremount /dev/scd0 -t UDF /media/cdrom  <or something like that>01:31
chaotici know i got it from softpedia  its a newsreader program01:31
trakinasBiovore: [   18.977600]  scsi 1:0:0:0: CD-ROM            PIONEER  DVD-RW  DVR-112D 1.09 PQ: 0 ANSI: 501:31
chaoticsoftpedia is trustworthy01:31
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darkkishhey guys01:31
Biovoretrakinas: might have something to do with the ide-scsi for cdrom burning.01:31
zarbahey darkkish01:31
darkkishum, i know this isn't the right channel at all01:32
zarbaR U jew?01:32
darkkishbut nobody is in the others, my mouse/keyboard isn't working in dsl01:32
darkkishon livecd01:32
trakinasBiovore: what you mean?01:32
Biovoreto make cdrom burning work, the emulated cdroms as scsi01:32
zarbaare some jews here01:33
zarba?01:33
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Schuenemannwhy you want to know if there are jews here?01:33
erovwhat does it matter01:33
Dragnslcrzarba- no, we banned them all01:33
Darkrifterm01:33
Biovoredarkkish: no clue.. probably something to do with your keyboard controller..  some of them are goofy..01:33
Darkriftand i get yelled at for saying a** in here01:33
darkkishBiovore it works fine until after the bootscreen01:33
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zarba@Dragnslcr : good so i'll stay here!01:34
darkkishatleast the keyboard does, i have no way of testing the mouse after the bootscreen01:34
Biovoreyup.. sounds about right..01:34
trakinaswhy ubuntu uses scsi emularion?01:34
Darkriftzarba, we would rather you leave01:34
Biovoreeveryone uses it.. redhat/suse/gentoo/debian/ubuntu (otheres)01:34
zarbawhy?01:34
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Biovorebbl01:34
zarbai'm a good aryan!01:34
Schuenemannbah01:34
zarbaand U?01:34
Schuenemannyou're a moron01:34
trakinasBiovore: so why it does not works on ubuntu?01:34
erovwhat a joke01:34
Darkriftbecause you have low intelligence01:34
Schuenemann!ops01:35
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!01:35
trakinasthat's driving me insane.01:35
naliothlet us be civil, please01:35
DragnslcrI feel so guilty, but it's kinda fun feeding really bad trolls01:35
Darkriftlol01:35
DragnslcrAww, darn01:35
erovdang gone :)01:35
naliothaww, he left01:35
Darkriftpathetic sack of <censored>01:35
DragnslcrCut him a little slack. Maybe he was just really, really drunk01:36
Darkriftnah01:36
erovthey told mel gibson it didnt matter ;)01:36
Darkriftmaybe he was really really stupid01:36
ShockValueman, klibido /almost/ does what i want.. there's some really annoying things though...01:37
DragnslcrThat is a pretty unfortunate name, isn't it01:37
ShockValuelike, i resize a column, but if you minimize and then maximize, it resets the column width01:38
ShockValuewell, it probably appropriate in about 75% of the case >:)01:38
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Schuenemannis there a tool or tutorial for configuring GRUB interface? Like using a GUI01:39
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draikHello all01:46
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BluesKajSchuenemann, why not DL and burn SupergrubDisk..it's a bootqable live cd that does restoration for windows and linux bootloaders01:48
darkkishhow do i make a dir in mount?01:49
Schuenemannhmm... actually I'd like to change the boot window01:49
darkkishin /mnt*01:49
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Schuenemanndarkkish, you have to be root01:49
SchuenemannI mean, use sudo01:49
darkkishoh of course01:49
darkkishhow do i mount a file to my new directory?01:52
darkkishlol sorry, i've been away from linux for too long01:52
darkkishi tried mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/disk101:52
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ardchoilleI'm surprised. There is a nice list of 3d games here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_free_first-person_shooters01:55
ardchoilleAnd many of them are in the repos01:55
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darkkishSchuenemann can you help?01:57
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Sannedarkkish: what's the error?01:59
darkkishi forgot how to mount files02:00
darkkishand DSL has no man02:00
darkkishi tried sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/disk102:00
darkkishi already have /mnt/disk1 created.02:00
darkkishi just need to mount sda1 or some dev, i am not honestly sure which dev i want mounted02:00
darkkishi want it to be readonly02:00
Sannewhat happens when you do: darkkish: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/disk102:01
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trakinasBiovore: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30058/ --> modules output02:02
Sannedarkkish: here's a mount manpage: http://linux.die.net/man/8/mount02:03
dbarcenahey, all, where is gnome ubuntu's support channel?02:04
Sannedbarcena: #ubuntu02:04
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darkkishcouldn't someone just basically tell me how to mount something?02:04
dbarcenathanks02:04
persen_!subversion02:04
ubotusubversion is an open source application used for revision control. It is sometimes abbreviated to svn in reference to the name of its command line interface. Look here for a Subversion How To on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion02:04
Sannedarkkish: your command should be correct, and also check the link I pisted to the online man page02:05
Sannehaha s/pisted/posted02:05
vzduchpisted.. ll02:05
trakinasdarkkish: it depends on.02:05
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trakinasdarkkish: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/mounting.html02:05
trakinashave fun02:05
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darkkishhow do i tell what the name of the device is i'm trying to mount?02:08
darkkishi'm in live cd and i'm trying to mount my regular scsi harddrive02:08
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vzduchdarkkish: what filesystem?02:10
darkkishntfs02:10
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vzduchdarkkish: mount -o defaults,ro -t ntfs /dev/sda /mnt/disk102:11
darkkishvzduch I'm not sure /dev/sda is the device i want02:12
vzduchdarkkish: make it /dev/sda102:12
vzduchotherwise try sdb or so02:12
darkkisho_O okay02:12
vzduchbut if it's your Winblows partition it should be sda102:13
wolferineis there alot of issues with installing KDE on a Ubuntu system?02:13
darkkishvzduch when i type that it just lists the help menu02:13
trakinaswolferine: no.02:13
darkkishthe very limeted one02:13
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vzduchdarkkish: what did you type?02:13
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darkkishexactally what you told me to02:14
darkkishoh wait02:14
darkkishi forgot the space between ro and -t02:14
darkkishsorry02:14
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darkkishit says02:14
ubuntucan somebody tell me what type of wireless card I have, I am just trying to find the windows inf files for it .. and i cant figure it out02:14
wolferinesorry, let me rephrase, is there uses while using KDE, when installed on a ubuntu box?02:14
darkkishmount: /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device02:14
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wolferines/uses/issues/02:14
darkkishi have a confession, I'm using Damn Small Linux right now02:14
darkkishbut nobody in DSL is alive.02:15
darkkishand, it's mostly debian based..02:15
darkkishbut i'm getting alot of damn small annoying errors.02:15
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Sannedarkkish: you could list your partitions with: sudo fdisk -l02:15
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duanarchymsg nickserv identify misfit6902:15
duanarchyoh shit02:15
duanarchyLOL02:15
wolferinenice02:16
vzduchhrhr02:16
darkkishSanne nothing came up at all02:16
duanarchy:-P02:16
wolferineNEVER register when a channel is open02:16
Sannedarkkish: must be different in DSL then02:16
vzduchshould I be mean? :D02:16
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trakinasvzduch: heck yes! >=] 02:16
vzduchhrhr02:17
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vzduchwb duanarchy02:17
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Sannedarkkish: did you use sudo (or the DSL equivalent)? If I just use it without, it also comes up with nothing.02:18
vzduchremember: after such accidents change your NickServ pwd IMMEDIATELY02:18
poopfacemevzduch: i don't really care ;-) lol02:18
nagyvhello! I am helping my brother remotely with in his first Linux experience, and just realised that he installed edgy and I gave him a feisty sources.list file. I already started apt-get upgrade unfortunately. What could be the safest next step if I would like to avoid reinstalling?02:18
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persen_"No apache MPM package installed" i get this message when i try to restart apache202:24
persen_should i install all apache2-mpm packages? Its five and two of them states "transitional"02:25
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BluesKajnagyv, if he opens adept update , the update to edgy wizard may popup and he can run it to update to feisty with it ..I'm not totally sure that the wizard will actiuvate since his sources list already has the feisty repos02:26
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BluesKaj!update | nagyv02:27
ubotunagyv: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)02:27
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chaoticwhat command do i use to delete something thru sudo02:28
chaoticneed  rights02:28
trakinaschaotic: sudo rm02:29
trakinasand the rest of your parameters02:29
BluesKajnagyv, he can always edit the sources list and change the "fesity" enties to edgy and then run the update in adept after doing the all important "sudo apt-get update" after he's finished editing and saving the sources list02:30
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chaoticwhat about to move a folder for one place to another02:30
chaoticbasically i need access to .wine folder02:31
chaoticto add maps to anarchy online02:31
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darkkishso02:33
darkkishif i started linux with the peram noacpi02:33
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darkkishwould that cause problems mounting harddrives and such, if it was livecd02:33
persen_is there a way i can list all deamons handling network traffic?02:34
persen_that listens on a port02:34
persen_need to kill a daemon that uses a port, but cant find it.02:34
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trakinaschaotic: same thing02:38
trakinaschaotic: with the command mv, insteed02:38
trakinasfor example,02:38
trakinassudo mv -rf /home/chaotic/.wine/path/to/anarchy /path/you/desire02:39
Sannepersen_: I think you can list those with netstat, I can't remember the correct options though. man netstat should tell you.02:39
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Matic`MakovecHey there. I was woundering where does Kopete save files you transfer?02:40
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trakinasMatic`Makovec: whatever you say it yo.02:41
trakinas*to02:41
Sannepersen_: 'netstat -l' gives interesting info02:41
Matic`Makovectrakinas, what if I didn't say anything :X02:41
Matic`MakovecIt has to have a default place, doesn't it?02:41
trakinasMatic`Makovec: it saved in the folder where it indicated when you were receiving the file.02:41
trakinasprobably, your home folder02:41
Matic`MakovecI wish I'd remember that :)02:41
Matic`MakovecThanks!02:41
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persen_Sanne, Yep, but it doesnt say what daemon/program handles what port02:46
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Sannepersen_: that's all I remember, for more info you would need to consult teh manpage, sorry.02:47
persen_anyways, trying to get subversion up, tried all night (3-4 hours) with no luck.02:47
persen_ the bots !subversion recipe isnt doing it02:47
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BluesKajpersen, what about system services in system settings/advanced ..it doesn't show the port but will show whether not a daemon is running.02:49
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BluesKajwhether or not02:49
Darkriftwho here is good with the bcm43xx?02:49
chaoticis there anyway to overwrite folders02:50
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chaoticin .wine02:50
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chaoticfolders02:50
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persen_BluesKaj,  where do i find "system settings" ? in kcontrol02:52
khaije1i need something to make quick'n'dirty technical instruction/documentation in the style of a flowchart02:52
khaije1whats the "best" app for this?02:52
BluesKajin the k-menu, persen02:52
Sannepersen_: in kcontrol it's in System Adminitration->System Services02:53
persen_found it02:53
Sanne:)02:53
chaoticthis is basically what i need to do delete .wine/program files/funcom/ anarchy online/cd_image/gui/default and move from desktop cd_image to  .wine/c_drive/progam files/funcom/anarchy online02:54
chaotichow would i do that02:54
BluesKajpersen in kcontrol it's in system administration02:54
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persen_hm, trying to start apache2 and get: Syntax error on line 56 of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/dav_svn.conf:02:55
persen_Unknown DAV provider: syn02:55
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persen_What is "syn" here? Subversion?02:55
chaoticcan someone help pls02:55
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frost0How Do I Install Flash And Java For Konqueror?02:56
persen_Flash worked like a charm for me (non amd 64)02:57
K-Ryan!flash02:57
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash02:57
K-Ryan!java02:57
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.02:57
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frost0persen_, flash?02:57
frost0persen_. how?02:58
trakinaschaotic: first, remove the dir. you want to with "sudo rm -rf /the/path/ " (withou the quotes)02:58
persen_frost0, just pointing my konquerer to a page that uses flash makes the install routine popup.02:58
trakinasthen, mv -rf /the/file/you/want/to/ /the/destiny/02:58
trakinaswith sudo in front of mv if you need it02:58
TooEarlyhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3025697#post3025697 -- can anyone help me this problem02:59
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frost0persen_. what are you on (edgy, dapper, feisty)?02:59
Sannechaotic: be very careful you don't mistype! rm doesn't ask if you're sure.02:59
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persen_feisty02:59
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BluesKajfrost0, use adept to install the flashplayer-non free and flashplugin-nonfree03:00
chaoticso id do sudo rm -rf /home/chaotic/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Funcom/Anarchy Online/cd_image/gui/Default03:01
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persen_just rm your whole mmorpg games while at it, just consumes time.03:02
erovhehe03:02
Sannechaotic: there's a space in that path. I guess you need to enclose the path with quotes. and usually you won't need sudo for folders in you rhome dir.03:02
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BluesKajdoesn't konq come with java already installed ?03:04
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frost0BluesKaj, even in dapper?03:05
BluesKajdunno about dapper frost003:05
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BluesKajfrost0, in feisty in konq/tools/HTML settings/java&javascript options are listed03:08
trakinaschaotic: yes03:09
trakinaschaotic: if it complains, "home/chaotic/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Funcom/Anarchy Online/cd_image/gui/Default"03:09
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BluesKajfrost0, in konq and most other browsers typing ' about:plugins ' in the addressbar will list the media codec plugins the browser is setup to use03:13
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frost0anyone know how to install flash in dapper?03:16
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BluesKajwow, you didn't read anything did you frost003:17
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HackSignwhat is the X libraries ??03:17
trakinas!X03:17
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto03:17
frost0BluesKaj, sorry, i did about:plugins, didn't have it, tried konsole but it needs firefox to get the plugins off of03:18
HackSignwhen i installed a software03:18
frost0BluesKaj, i remember it being much simpler03:18
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frost0BluesKaj, :)03:18
trakinasi have to go03:18
trakinascheers all03:18
HackSignthe output is :alsamixer03:18
HackSignsorry~03:18
BluesKajkonq will display it if you type it in the adress bar03:19
HackSignhow can i download the x lib?03:19
FragilityI cant seem to remember the command for editing xorg...need to enable shm for a synaptics03:19
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Fragilityfor some rason i generally have a hell of a time getting access to the xorg config03:19
Fragility*reason03:19
BluesKajediting or reconfiguring Fragility?03:20
HackSigncan u tell me the name if i want download it in console with the command of apt-get ?03:20
FragilityI just need to turn the shm on to be able to edit the synaptics touchpad setting03:20
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FragilityI thought it was gedit but command is not found03:21
HackSign*.*03:21
BluesKajFragility, kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf , in the run command box03:22
Fragilityits a blank file03:23
FragilityI have had that problem multiple times, it's really hard for me to access xorg, I dont know why03:23
frost0Fragility, X11 not x11 i did that earlier :003:23
Fragilityoh03:23
Fragilitykk03:23
Fragilityit says "failed to open device" on almost all of them03:24
Fragilitythen opens empty03:24
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BluesKajHackSign, xlib11-603:25
frost0Fragility, sudo kwrite /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:25
HackSigntks BluesKaj :)03:25
frost0Fragility, copy and paste that03:25
DarkriftFragility,  those "failed to open device" are beacuse some unused devices are in your config, you can ignore those03:25
Darkriftthose errors arent actually causing any problems, just annoyance03:26
BluesKajer HackSign libX11-603:26
Fragilitythere are a lot of random things wrong with my computer that i cant figure out which may be why this isnt opening, but kwrite is empty also03:26
HackSign... ok i'll try ~03:26
BluesKajtry kdesu kate03:26
frost0Fragility, yeah kate.03:26
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frost0Fragility, beat me03:26
Darkriftopen the text editor (as root) and then browse and find the file03:27
frost0BluesKaj, beat me :)03:27
TooEarlyanyone know how to get a widescreen to not flicker because of the DDC03:27
HackSignBluesKaj03:27
HackSigni have installed the pkg already03:28
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FragilityI finally got it open from one of the commands from earlier and and I dont know why, thank you03:29
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rayluhas anyone used mpd? my music sounds distorted03:31
BluesKajraylu open kmix and bring the input and output slider ctrls down to 70% or so03:34
raylueh...03:35
BluesKajppl crank them up as if that's gonna give more volume all it does is overload the sound card03:35
rayluno gui :P i suppose i have to dcop kmix03:35
rayluand i didn't even touch it yet...because i can't :P03:35
frost0BluesKaj, uh where is the sources.list file located?03:35
rayluwait a sec; i dont even have kde, lol03:35
raylu!sources.list03:35
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu03:35
rayluits /etc/apt, i think03:35
frost0k thx03:35
rayluwhat is kmix a frontend for?03:36
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BluesKajkdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list03:36
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Darkrifthow do you change the size of icons on your desktop?03:37
frost0BluesKaj, thank you03:37
rayluin other words, how would i access the mixes if I didn't have kmix?03:37
raylu*mixers03:37
Darkriftive seen screenshots with some icons large, and some really small03:37
BluesKajalsa or whatever sound app you want o use in system settings/sound03:37
rayluDarkrift, try alt+f2 > kcontrol > search03:37
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Biovoreraylu: aumix is a command line mixer.. or there is alsamixer from the command line..03:38
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BluesKajalsamixer in the terminal03:38
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frost0BluesKaj, What Is The Command To Install Flash From The Backports Via Terminal?03:39
rayluthanks, Biovore03:39
yan_what is procedural paradigm??03:39
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yan_anybody..help me...03:39
rayluyan_,...why?03:39
yan_i just wanna tu know in more details03:40
yan_*to03:40
BluesKajdunno frost0 , i used adept for the flashplayer-nonfree and the flashplugin-nonfree03:40
rayluhow do I chmod a mounted drive? I mounted an ntfs partition with a gid, but the group access is 003:40
frost0BluesKaj, i tried adept but i type flash and nothing pops up :(03:40
rayluyan_, procedural = "falling rock," as in not oo03:41
BluesKajyou can try sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree && flashplugin-nonfree03:41
raylufrost0, sounds like you need to update your repositories03:41
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frost0raylu, i added backports :(03:42
BluesKajfrost0, you need to add the repositories for flash03:42
BluesKaj!flash03:42
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash03:42
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BluesKajfrost0, after adding them did you save the file and then do a sudo apt-get update ?03:43
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frost0BluesKaj, no :(03:45
BluesKajahh you must , otherwise the repos will fail to be added03:45
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yan_%03:46
Darkriftim getting errors from X that say "Error - arsmessage"03:47
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Darkrift"sound server fatal error: Error while initializing the sound driver. device: default cant be opened for playback (Operation not permitted)"03:48
Darkriftanyone know what i can do to stop these?03:48
Darkriftevery time i close one, another pops up03:48
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BluesKaj!cn03:49
ubotuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk03:49
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frost0BluesKaj, not working, but i found another way...i can download the package manually, and install it to /usr/lib/mozilla...so i created that directory but it says enter valid directory :(03:50
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frost0BluesKaj, wow that totally makes no sense, must be tired :)03:51
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rayluuid=value, gid=value and umask=value03:52
raylu    Set the file permission on the filesystem. The umask value is given in octal. By default, the files are owned by root and not readable by somebody else.03:52
rayluis there no gmask option?03:52
BluesKajfrost0, it will create it's own default directory , what is the pkg file extension?03:52
frost0frost0, i'm using the link you gave me with an alternate tutorial ...the package is tar.gz03:52
frost0frost0, the installer initializes but can not find that directory :(03:53
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BluesKajdid you do a : tar -xzvf  filemane tar.gz then cd to the foldername and finmd the readme .. the install istructions will be in there...generally it will be a ./configure command at the filefoldername prompt03:55
dcossondoes anyone know of a way to manually edit, like, the text positions in kicker's clock applet?  when it puts the text on more than 2 lines it is not vertically centred03:56
frost0BluesKaj, I installed flashplugin-nonfree now what?03:58
frost0BluesKaj, through adept03:58
BluesKajok good03:58
BluesKajinstall the flashplayer-nonfree the same way03:58
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adminsdola03:59
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frost0BluesKaj, all there is is flashplugin-nonfree...04:00
adminsd_ola04:00
frost0BluesKaj, is it possible that it downloaded the player also?04:00
BluesKajyes04:00
K-RyanWhere's modules.conf ?04:02
frost0BluesKaj, can i restart and check somehow?04:02
BluesKajfrost0, do a , sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree in the konsole04:02
ShockValuewhy is that when im not playing some kind of mmorpg, i end up thinking of good character names? :)04:03
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frost0BluesKaj, did, nothing04:03
K-Ryanmodules.conf anyone?04:04
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BluesKajK-Ryan, etc/modules04:04
K-RyanBluesKaj: Thank you04:04
Jahootyanyone have problems with amarok freezing when it starts?04:04
frost0BluesKaj, can't find package it says04:04
ShockValueno, working ok for me.. Jahooty, sure its not just building your collection?04:05
BluesKaj!flash04:05
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash04:05
Jahootyactually no, but it's totally unresponsive04:05
Jahootyand my collection is pretty small04:05
Jahootyalthough i did just rip a new cd04:05
Jahootygood thought tho, i'll just let it run then04:05
ShockValuethere should be a couple log files in ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok04:05
BluesKajclick on pl, Jahooty04:06
Jahootypl?04:06
BluesKajin the player04:06
Jahootythe gui for amarok isn't loading, i get the outline but i'ts not filling in any details04:06
ShockValuehow's he supposed to click it when its totally unresponsive?04:06
rayluso, can anyone help me mount an ntfs drive?04:07
Jahootyhmm04:07
Jahootybuy it dinner first raylu04:08
Jahootysorry, couldn't resist04:08
ShockValueraylu: maybe...04:08
Jahootyif amarok is trying to add a zip file to the collection, how would it handle it?04:08
ShockValueerrr.. you said ntfs.. nm.. thought you meant NFS04:08
BluesKajJahooty, in the terminal : sudo dpkg --configure -a ...then relogin04:08
Jahootywhat's that do, btw?04:08
raylu=\04:09
BluesKajit releases any pending installs or removals04:09
raylui can't get the owner/group permissions to be what i want it to be04:09
raylusetting the group is useless since it has 0 permissions04:09
ShockValuejust discovered this hellanzb program.. its pretty cool >:)04:09
raylu!info hellanzb04:12
ubotuhellanzb: Newzbin (nzb) & BinNews (bns) files downloader and post-processor. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 159 kB, installed size 720 kB04:12
raylueh?? what does that mean?04:12
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Jahootyi think i may have fixed it04:13
Jahootywe'll see04:13
Jahootythanks for the help04:13
ShockValueyou feed it NZB's from usenet, and it grabs and proccesses all the files for you automagically04:13
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BluesKajdon't thank us til works Jahooty :)04:15
BluesKajoops04:15
juan_how safe is it to have port 631 open?04:15
raylu...04:15
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raylujust as safe as any of the other 65534 ports04:15
raylu*unsafe04:15
ShockValuedepends on whats listening on the port....04:15
BluesKajnot really , anything under 1064 or so is attackable , but being linux it's a tuff call04:16
juan_so, how can i network print safer?04:16
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BluesKajbehind a router , juan_ ?04:17
rayluthe safest way is to unplug yourself and sudo shutdown ^^04:17
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ShockValuejuan_: what we're trying to say is that it doesnt matter what port something is on, its just as vulnerable and/or safe as any other port.  what matters is the security of the listening application and your firewall rules, etc04:17
BluesKajif so you're prolly ok04:18
miles!mp304:18
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:18
juan_not really, i have a modem, connected to a port switch04:18
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ShockValuehmm, yeah.. not so safe unless your modem has some kind of built in firewall.04:19
jerrynecesiti instar flash adobe04:19
jerrypero em es imposible04:19
ShockValueideally you'll want some kind of firewall between the switch and the modem04:19
BluesKajwell, not being windows , the under 1064 rule may not apply ...04:19
juan_should i configure my iptables?04:19
miles!ogg_vorbis04:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ogg_vorbis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:20
miles!ogg vorbis04:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ogg vorbis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:20
miles!ogg-vorbis04:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ogg-vorbis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:20
Daisuke-Ido!ogg04:20
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:20
ShockValue!miles_spam04:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about miles_spam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:20
mileso thanks04:20
BluesKaj!botabuse04:20
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...04:20
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juan_should i buy a firewall? it's only for my home network04:21
BluesKaj!firewall04:21
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).04:21
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ShockValuejuan_: let me as you this, is your IP and the IP of your printer routable or non-routable?  (does it start with 192?)04:22
josephCan someone tell me how to change the mouse cursors?04:22
raylujuan_, iptables should be fine; but chances are, you're worrying too much04:22
mileshaha i just got mp3s to work04:22
K-RyanIt's not that hard04:22
raylujoseph, alt+f2 > kcontrol and alt+f1>system settings both have search04:22
milesyea juan, unless u got some pr0n, no one is gonna want to hack u04:22
juan_starts with 19004:22
raylujoseph, if you happen to find a place to download more cursors though, please tell me ^^04:22
BluesKajcool miles ,see linux works :)04:23
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milesi never said it didnt...unless u got AMD and trying to get flashplayer..04:23
rayluBluesKaj, better is: "when linux doesn't wor, you're not fscked."04:23
milesor ET04:23
K-RyanIt's as simple as installing libxine-extracodecs isn't it?04:23
milesyea04:23
milesthat + amarok04:23
rayluyes, but the amaork script is what most people are using04:23
rayluand, last time i checked, it wasn't too...nice04:23
milesquestion -- how do you disable bouncing icons?04:24
BluesKajthe libxine-extracodecs is the easiest way tho04:24
milesexample -- start firefox, the firefox logo bounces by the mouse04:24
miles i hate that04:24
K-RyanRun stuff from konsole04:24
rayluBluesKaj, but the amarok thing never mentions libxine-extracodecs :(04:24
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raylumiles, the option is called "visual notification upon activation" i think04:25
BluesKajlegally it's not supposed to , raylu04:25
rayluand its in kcontrol/system settings...somewhere. maybe under mouse04:25
ShockValueraylu: thats true, i had to do some reading to figure out how to play my flac files04:25
rayluBluesKaj, but...that's what the script does anyway...im sure it's not illegal04:25
cerecedohello!04:25
BluesKaj!soundkonvertor04:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about soundkonvertor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:25
rayluthe legal issue should be raised when you try to install the codecs04:25
cerecedohola04:25
raylu!hi | cerecedo04:25
ubotucerecedo: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!04:25
K-RyanIs it just me or is libxine-extracodecs not available?04:26
K-RyanIn Dapper it seems04:26
BluesKaj!soundkonverter04:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about soundkonverter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:26
BluesKaj?04:26
cerecedook, si soy nuevo  / yes i am new....04:26
BluesKaj!soundKonverter04:26
K-Ryan!es | cerecedo04:27
ubotucerecedo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:27
cerecedook, gracias,04:27
K-Ryande nada04:27
cerecedocomo?04:27
ShockValueBluesKaj:  I had to install that package manually, its not in the standard list04:28
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K-Ryantu no necesitas ir04:28
milesi cant find how to disable the bouncing, i hate it04:28
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rayluis ntfs-config a gui?04:28
josephI have another question. I have a USB hard drive and in gnome it shows fine but not in KDE anyone have any ideas?04:28
cerecedoentre por accidente aqui, creo que ya vi como, gracias amigos04:29
K-Ryan!info libxine-extracodecs04:29
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, transitional package. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.4-2ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 38 kB, installed size 68 kB04:29
K-Ryan!mp304:29
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:29
BluesKajraylu, yes ntfs-config is a gtk gui04:33
raylu=\04:33
rayluok, any other ntfs mount config tools?04:33
BluesKajbut it works in kde04:33
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BluesKajthen you should be04:33
BluesKajthis is Kubuntu chat04:33
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milesdoes linus use kde?04:34
BluesKajwho cares04:34
milesor is he too leet, he just uses command line04:34
milesbro, i gotta know what the man himself uses04:34
Darkrifti wish there was a feature from windows that when you click close on a locked up app, after a min or so, it offers to kill the app for you04:34
mileslaff?04:34
Darkriftso you dont have to then open the process list, or a console to kill the damned thing04:34
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rayluDarkrift, how many apps lock on you?04:36
rayluBluesKaj, i know, but it doesn't make sense to ask in #ubuntu either :P04:36
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Darkriftanything that uses video04:36
BluesKajpurists are elitist jerks IMO , just come in here to brag about how great they are and contribute practically nothing to the real linux cause :)04:36
raylumiles, I read something about how he didn't like gnome04:36
Darkrifttotem, kaffiene, vlc, firefox, konq, etc etc04:36
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Darkriftmplayer, mediaplayer.....04:36
rayluo.004:37
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raylureally?04:37
raylusounds like your video is misconfiged04:37
Darkrifteverything else works fine04:37
Darkrifthell, beryl even works great04:37
Darkriftlol04:37
mignishCan someone tell me where the "httpd.conf" file is for Apache2? I'm having problems installing PHP04:38
rayluo.004:38
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ShockValuemignish: not sure, but i'd start in /etc/apac.... someplace04:38
raylu-/etc/apache2/httpd.conf04:38
mignishgreat, thanks... i wasn't sure where Apache installed.04:38
raylu"which apache2"04:39
mignishyep04:39
mignishapache204:39
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ShockValuethey had files in dos?04:39
Darkriftlol04:39
Darkrifti used to be a guru in dos04:39
mignishDang, there is not httpd.conf file04:40
BluesKajwell, sacktime for this old guy ... God willing I'll be back tomorrow and take care all .04:40
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milesmignish: check out xampp.org04:40
mignish:-)04:40
milesfull lamp stack and it unzips to /opt04:40
mignishwill do thanks.04:40
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raylumignish, there is also /usr/share/doc/apache2.2-common/examples/apache2/original/httpd.conf.gz04:41
ardchoille!lamp04:41
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)04:41
chaotichey i found out uhave to get wines repositry to get the latest version04:41
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raylu...no you don't04:41
draikDoes Kubuntu keep a log of all the logins?04:41
rayluunless you mean of wine04:41
chaoticthey dont have it on the ubuntu repository04:41
chaoticyeah u do04:42
ardchoilledraik: /var/log/auth.log  ?04:42
draikardchoille: Thank you much. Sudo?04:42
draikWait, nevermind04:42
raylulol04:42
chaoticubuntu repo doesnt  have the latest version04:42
chaoticwhen u apt-get wine04:43
raylui think the repositories have the latest stable version04:43
chaoticit tells u  u have the latest   version04:43
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chaoticthen i went to wine site04:43
chaotici figured it couldnt be l   the latest04:43
mignishWhat was that website with LAMP info on it?04:43
mignishi accidentally closed Konversation.04:44
K-RyanAnyone else on Dapper having a problem installing libxine-extracodecs?04:44
draikardchoille: Why does it state: "session opened for user root by (uid=0)" on my most recent login? I didn't login with root at all04:44
chaoticsudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/feisty.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list04:44
chaotici had to do that04:44
draikK-Ryan: Your first question should be: Anyone still on Dapper?04:44
mignish!lamp04:44
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)04:44
ardchoilledraik: Probably a cronjob or some such04:44
K-Ryandraik: I'm sure people are on Dapper04:45
chaoticthen i ran apt-get then it uploaded04:45
chaoticwell downloaded the latest04:45
ardchoilledraik: I have that in my auth.log on a box that has never been connected so I don't think it's worth worrying over04:45
draikardchoille: Nothing I should worry about, huh?04:45
draikOk04:45
chaoticthen i ran aptget all theres like 4 other progs that updated04:46
draikAnswered my question before I asked you. I think I shall name you $DEITY04:46
raylumignish, I think /etc/apache2/apache2.conf was actually the config o.004:46
ardchoilledraik: lol04:46
ardchoilleraylu, mignish: that page that ubotu posted about lamp has that info04:47
ardchoilleTook me three minutes and one apt-get install to get lamp running04:48
mignishthanks raylu.04:49
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raylu*lamp04:50
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chaotichhey ddo i change my clock from military time to normal04:51
chaotichow04:51
rayluright-click...04:51
mignishright click on it04:51
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mignishthen under preferences04:51
mignishyou choose the display type04:51
mignishhehe04:52
mignishit is the same in windows.04:52
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ardchoillechaotic: right click, Date & Time Format , Time & Dates tab, Time Format04:52
raylusomething is bound to :80; how do i find out what?04:52
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ardchoilleraylu: /etc/apache2/ports.conf ?04:53
ardchoilleListen:80  ?04:53
raylui want to leave it on 80; apache2 can't bind to 80 because04:53
raylusomething is already bound there04:54
raylui want to know what04:54
ardchoilleOh, ok04:54
draikPort 80 is your browser, isn't it?04:54
milesraylu - nmap localhost04:54
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raylu80 = http04:54
chaoticum nothing changes04:54
rayluinstalling nmap :(04:54
rayluchaotic, didn't you read the thing after you pressed ok?04:54
ardchoillechaotic: I think that setting requires a logout/login04:54
rayluoh yeah, how do i tell apt to stop using my cd?04:55
ardchoilleraylu: comment out those lines in sources.list04:55
rayluo.004:55
draikraylu: sudo umount /media/cdrom004:55
rayluduh :( i thought i checked that already04:55
rayludraik, that just tells me to insert the cd :P04:55
K-RyanHas anyone done a network install before?04:55
raylunmap says only 3306 is open for my mysql04:55
draikraylu: No, you want umount to stop04:56
draikmount will ask for a ced04:56
draik*cd04:56
rayluno, apt is asking for the cd04:56
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rayluand ardchoille, i already commented it out, but something added it back in04:56
chaoticim good04:57
ardchoilleraylu: o.O04:57
K-RyanAnybody? Network install?04:57
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chaotichey if it says unrar not in path what does that mean04:57
chaotici already installed unrar-free04:57
milesexport PATH = $PATH: <<path to unrar>>04:58
milesis that right?04:58
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ardchoilleshould be04:59
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mignishare there any LAMP packages i can install via apt-get by default?04:59
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rayluso, i don't understand the message i get when i use "sudo apache2ctl start":04:59
ardchoillemignish: Did you read the page I posted twice now?04:59
chaoticwhats the default path to unrar04:59
raylu(98) adress already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:8004:59
ardchoille!lamp04:59
mignishardchoille was it the one the bot posted?04:59
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)04:59
draikardchoille: I would love to run a server, but I feel as though I would not manage it properly.04:59
ardchoilledraik: It's not hard at all. my 8 year old niece runs lamp on her ubuntu box.. if she can do it, you can do it ;)05:00
rayludraik, neither would i manage it properly...which is why i'm doing it ^^05:00
mignishardchoille i didn't because it opened in quanta but i'll just copy and paste and see if it's helpful. i just figured i'd seen it already. the url looks familiar.05:00
ardchoillemignish: That page has a lot of good info for running lamp05:01
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draikI want to have a server that I can use to backup my music, pictures and docs. I want it to be accessible through my laptop and desktop05:01
chaoticexport PATH = $PATH: /usr/bin05:01
miles!traditional societies05:01
chaoticthat gave me an error05:01
ardchoillechaotic: /usr/bin should already be in your $PATH05:01
ardchoillechaotic: echo $PATH05:01
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milesyea05:02
mignishardchoille: i'm using tasksel to install it's doing it now. Thanks.05:02
milesgo to the directory where your unrar binary is and see if you can run it there05:02
dr_willisdraik,  i  got a ubuntu box set up as a samba server for that need.05:03
milessamba pwnz05:03
draikardchoille: Would I be able to setup LAMP on my desktop install without messing anything up?05:03
milessamba pwnz teh no0b haxz05:03
rayludraik, yes05:03
ardchoillechaotic: You have a space there, shouldn't have a space,  export PATH = $PATH:/usr/bin05:03
draikWhat's the diff between LAMP and SAMBA? I thought SAMBA was a bridge for Linux to win?05:04
ardchoilledraik: yes, see the page ubotu posted earlier. it's easy05:04
dr_willisdraik,  you got a LOT of reading to do.. Lamp has nothing to do with samba05:04
milesnow that i think about it ardchoille, i dont think there is a space between the PATH=$PATH05:04
dr_willis!lamp05:04
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)05:04
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dr_willis!samba05:04
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT05:04
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ardchoillemiles: you're right, my bad.05:05
LopinI'm back, and I'm running Kubuntu!  Finally...05:05
LopinHowever, I do have one question...05:05
j1mchi all - my font in my kdm screen is very small, any idea on how to correct that?05:05
ardchoilleI was talking about his space between PATH: and /usr/bin05:05
raylu!modeline | j1mc05:05
ubotuj1mc: A Modeline is a config line in the X server configuration file that gives info about a connected display and how to drive it at a specified display resolution. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFree86_Modeline for more details. Here are 2 links to generate modelines which fit your monitor: http://bohne-lang.de/spec/linux/modeline/ and http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl05:05
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rayluso...anyone know why apache2 won't start?05:05
strabesis there a way to prevent multiple instances of a program (gaim)05:05
chaoticdoesnt open05:05
j1mcraylu: that was fast.  is this a common problem?05:05
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ardchoilleraylu: Don't launch it multiple times?05:06
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mileslaff05:06
milesu silly05:06
rayluardchoille, it's not launched05:06
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raylunmap localhost shows that nothing is bound to 8005:06
dr_willismakes sence to me..05:06
chaoticnot valid identifier05:06
rayluand using apache2ctl stop give sme05:06
raylu*gives me httpd (no pid file) not running05:06
milesi think there is an option in httpd.conf about pid files05:07
ardchoillesudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop  ?05:07
raylusame msg05:07
milesraylu, are you trying to set up ssl?05:07
raylu...no05:07
milesk nm05:07
chaotici just installed unrar works perfect05:08
chaoticnever installing unrar-free05:08
chaoticagain05:08
ardchoille!info unrar05:08
ubotuunrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.7.3-1 (feisty), package size 94 kB, installed size 228 kB05:08
LopinAnyone know how to get wifi up and running?05:08
ardchoille!info unrar-free05:09
ubotuunrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB05:09
K-RyanLopin: Depends on a lot of stuff05:09
K-RyanStart here though05:09
dr_willisLopin,  with lots of luck and research.. depending on your wireless card05:09
chaoticwhat do u mean non free05:09
K-Ryan!wifi05:09
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:09
LopinThank you!05:09
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K-RyanLopin: Good luck05:09
ardchoillechaotic: there are two versions, it seems05:09
ardchoillefree and non-free05:09
chaotici just got unrar without paying05:09
chaoticso   does that make it free05:10
dr_willisthe rar makers have released the unrar stuff , but licensing wont let someone make a free 'rar' utility that can make rars05:10
K-Ryan!free05:10
ubotufreedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing05:10
dr_willis!beer05:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about beer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:10
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K-RyanFree as in, you can look at the source and modify it05:10
ardchoilledr_willis: Thank you :)05:10
K-RyanNot free as in "You don't have to pay"05:10
chaotic!anarchy05:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about anarchy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:10
K-Ryan!botabuse05:10
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...05:10
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Tm_Tangry ops? who's those?05:11
intelikeyTm_T hehhe05:11
ardchoilleTm_T: lol05:11
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j1mcraylu: should i paste the modeline information in the "Screen" portion of my xorg.conf file?05:12
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Tm_Tlovely, it's raining05:12
draikardchoille: Ok... I installed LAMP05:12
dr_willisYou have a need for LAMP?05:12
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draikIt's not a need as it is curiosity for the near future05:13
thunderboltWhere's it raining?05:13
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K-RyanIt's raining on Long Island, NY05:13
K-RyanThat's for sure...05:13
intelikeylol :)05:13
thunderboltHaha.05:13
dr_willisThe Rain in Spain Falls Mainly on the Plain!05:14
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dr_willis:)05:14
mignishIf i've installed LAMP have I insalled Apache and Mysql and all that because it's still not working... i'm going to have to mess quite a bit i think.05:14
ardchoilledraik: Cool, now bookmark this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP   It'll come in handy05:14
ardchoillemignish: What was your apt-get command?05:14
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draikardchoille: I already did when I was there from the link ubotu provided.05:14
ardchoille:)05:14
mignishardchoille: i used tasksel and selected LAMP Server05:15
ardchoillemignish: I've never used tasksel so I don't know.. I stick with apt-get05:15
milesim telling u mignish, xampp05:15
milesit works05:15
mignishi'll give that  ashot. i am downloading now... it's kind of a slow d/l05:16
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mileso05:16
milesits great for dev work, they say on the site dont use it for production boxes05:16
mignishmiles: must be my connection though.05:16
milesits a decent size...05:16
ardchoillemignish: If yo had installed the way that docs page listed, you would know exactly what you have and how to use it.05:16
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mignishi read the page you linked me to but i just want to make sure i'm understanding it correctly. It sounds to me like LAMP is everything i need but then it goes on to tell you how to install Apache2 and PHP in the same page.05:17
ardchoillemignish: lamp is a coolection of apps: Linux, Apache, MySQL, php.. you have to install them seperately and you have lamp05:18
draikI know that I can do /list and get a list of all the channels. Is there a way to limit the search to "cars" or "tuners"?05:19
mignishIt sounds to me like using Tasksel it installs all of them for you.05:19
dr_willisdraik,  depends on your ir5c client. and the list can get HUGE...05:19
dr_willis  /list PATTERN perhaps05:19
ardchoillemignish: Well, you see the disadvantage of allowing an app to do all the work you should be doing yourself? You now don't know exactly what tasksel installed.05:20
draikdr_willis: Yup, that did it05:20
draikToo bad it didn't bring up anything... :(05:20
ardchoilleThere's no substitution for learning how to do things yourself.05:20
dr_willisardchoille,  or reading the docs. :)05:21
dr_willis!irc05:21
ubotuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines05:21
ardchoilledr_willis: exactly05:21
draikHaha.. I was wondering why South CARolina was on the list. UbuntuSouthCarolina05:22
mignishardchoille: It seems to have done exactly what I had. Everything works the same way as when i installed everything manually. i think everything installed right but i need to figure out how to configure it.05:22
mignishardchoille: thanks for the links.05:22
ardchoilleYou're welcome :)05:22
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ardchoilleeeewwww, tasksel is a gui. Why on earth would someone write a gui to install things when apt-get is so much faster and teaches you things?05:24
intelikeyardchoille why would anyone write a gui ?05:26
ardchoilleintelikey: Good point05:26
dr_willisdown with interfaces!05:26
dr_willisback to punchcards!05:26
ardchoillehehe05:26
ardchoillelolz!05:26
draikardchoille: I wondered the same thing. I just went with "Umm.. Ok. Just follow the instructions"05:26
intelikey</carscasm>05:26
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herohey, i can't seem to get kdm to work05:27
intelikeyhero kdm or xorg ?05:28
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miles!kdm05:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kdm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:28
herointelikey: what do you mean?05:28
draikhero: Are you using kdm or gdm?05:28
ardchoilleWell, if I apt-get install app1 app2 app3, and app2 messes up, I know how to uninstall it, or purge it, or uninstall its deps and reinstall if need be. using tasksel I have no idea what's going on behind the scenes.05:28
herowell, i'm using gdm now because it's the only thing that will get me into kde05:28
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herogdm login, kde session05:28
draikardchoille: I felt the same way on that. I just waited for the bar05:28
mignishxampp workes miles. going to mess with it tomorrow. Thank you :-)05:28
heroif i run kdm, i just start into a black screen with a normal xterm and no window decs05:28
mignishbye all thakns for the help :-)05:29
draikhero: Then you have gdm, not kdm05:29
intelikeyhero been messing with /etc/kde*/kdm/*  ???05:29
herointelikey: no05:29
intelikeyhmmm05:29
heroit's like if i don't use gdm then i get sort of a generic login, like xdm05:29
milesno prob mignish05:29
mileso dang, he already left05:29
dr_willisxdm - the Classics!05:29
dr_willis:)05:29
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ardchoillehero: Did you stop gdm before starting kdm?05:30
heroardchoille: well i did dpkg-reconfigure gdm and then chose kdm05:30
heroif i remove gdm, then i get the generic login05:30
ardchoilleAh, ok05:30
dr_willisdid you 'dpkg-reconfigure kdm' yet?05:30
heroi think so05:31
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heroit's almost like kdm doesn't work right05:31
draikhero: Restart. That will take care of it. It did for me when I installed ubuntu-desktop05:31
herodraik: i've done that a bunch of times already05:31
heroit doesn't help05:31
draikhero: Are you sure you have kdm installed?05:31
ardchoillereboots are for kernel/grub work05:31
herokdm is installed05:31
draikreboots have done wonders for me. Usually when restarting X doesn't work, reboot will.05:32
herothis time a reboot won't help05:32
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intelikeykernel yes    grub ?    lilo maybe05:32
heroi've attempted this a couple of times05:32
ardchoilleintelikey: Not needed for changes to grub?05:32
dr_willisif KDM is not selected as the 'default' login manager with the  'dpkg-reconfigure kdm'   then it WONT load from the xdm service.05:32
heroand i wonder if it has something to do with starting with ubuntu and then having apt instal kubuntu-desktop05:33
intelikeyardchoille not any that i know of05:33
dr_willisthe boot messages say so. :) 'not starting kdm since its not the default login manager' or similer05:33
ardchoilleintelikey: Oh, ok.05:33
dr_willishero,  ive  always started with ubuntu, and installed kubuntu-desktop dozens of times.05:33
dr_willisnever had issues.05:33
heroalright05:33
heroi'll try reconfiguring kdm just to be sure05:33
herobbiab05:34
draikI went backwards. I started with Kubuntu and used "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop". I had GDM, but I later switched to KDM05:34
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draik'dpkg-reconfigure gdm' did the trick... followed by a reboot05:35
chaotichey how do  i associate pan to nzbs05:35
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intelikeychaotic right click one and "open with"   then select the always use this app  and the app you want to use  ???05:37
intelikeyjust a guess05:37
chaoticyeah it doesnt open it up05:38
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heroyeah05:42
herothat didn't do any good05:42
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herodo xdm and the default kdm look the same?05:42
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dr_willishero,  no05:42
intelikeyhero no05:42
nelson_boa noite05:42
heroyeah05:42
heroi think it's xdm05:42
dr_willishero,  you did do a 'dpkg-reconfigure kdm' ?05:42
herodr_willis: i just did that.05:43
heroit doesn't work05:43
dr_willishero,  you did do a 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm'  I mean05:43
dr_willisyou selected kdm?05:43
heroyes.05:43
heroit's like kdm isn't working05:43
heroalthough it installed via apt-get with no problems05:43
dr_williswell ya could start 'kdm' from the console with 'sudo kdm'05:43
heroyeah, i know05:43
heroi'd rather have a login manager05:43
nelson_alguem do brasil?05:43
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intelikeyhero kdm is a login manager05:43
hero!br05:43
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.05:43
dr_willisif  kdm starts from the console, then ya know its not a kdm issue.. its some other config ieeus05:44
dr_willisissue05:44
herointelikey: yes, i know05:44
intelikeyhero so try was the good doctor is saying05:44
hero?05:44
dr_willishero,  do a           cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager05:44
heroi'm going to try it05:44
dr_willissee what its set to.05:44
dr_williscat /etc/X11/default-display-manager05:45
dr_willis/usr/bin/kdm05:45
heroit says gdm right now, but i had it where it said kdm and kdm still didn't work05:45
dr_willisis mine.05:45
dr_willisodd05:45
dr_willistry killing X. and starting KDM from the console then with sudo kdm05:45
dr_willissee if THAT works for kdm05:45
heroalright05:45
dr_willisquick lets all change Nicks!05:46
dr_willis:)05:46
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intel_hidden:)05:46
ardchoillehahaha05:46
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intel_hiddennow he wont know me :)05:47
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Dr_Willis_Hidden:)05:47
intel_hidden:)05:47
herowell, after looking at ps output, it is kdm_greet that is running05:47
heroso maybe it *is* kdm after all05:47
heroit just doesn't log you in to kde05:47
heroi'm in no wm-land05:47
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heroso why would under gdm i get a kde session, but not under kdm?05:48
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ardchoillehero: kde is a desktop environment, not a window manager. kwin is the window manager used in kde05:48
Dr_Willis_Hiddenno idea. ive not dissected how the gdm/kdm stuff works.05:48
Dr_Willis_Hiddengdm/kdm/xdm are the X login managers05:49
Dr_Willis_Hiddentheres others ya can play with also. ;)05:49
Dr_Willis_Hidden!find xdm05:49
ubotuFound: libxdmcp-dev, libxdmcp6, libxdmcp6-dbg, xdm, xdms (and 2 others)05:49
Dr_Willis_Hidden!info wdm05:49
heroalright05:49
ubotuwdm: WINGs Display Manager - an xdm replacement with a WindowMaker look. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.28-2.2 (feisty), package size 398 kB, installed size 1256 kB05:49
pyrotix__My computer in windows won't recognize/doesn't have drivers for my ethernet port, so I cannot connect to the internet. How can I find what my ethernet port is and how would I get drivers for it? I presume I could find the former with linux which can connect to the internet. Help plz.05:49
Dr_Willis_Hiddenhero,  not sure how ya got the system so confused. :)05:49
heroso i screwed up in VOCABULARY. can you help me?05:49
pyrotix__Heh I have hardware that works on linux but not windows. Go figure05:49
ardchoillepyrotix__: Now, if we can get the other hw vendors to start doing that..05:50
Dr_Willis_Hiddenpyrotix__,  seen hardware that works under windows and gets configured in such a way linux cant 'reconfogure' it. :) a hard reboot straight to linux lets it work right.05:50
herothe desktop environment works, then, under gdm, but not under kdm. gdm and kdm are login managers.05:50
Dr_Willis_Hiddenpyrotix__,  windows is very STUPID about network cards. it expects different drivers for my 3 identical chipset realtek nic's i have05:50
Dr_Willis_Hiddenlinux uses the same modulke for them all.05:51
ardchoillehero: You can also login at console and do: startx05:51
herowell let me ask this. are the themes for gdm and kdm the same?05:51
ardchoillehero: no05:51
intelikeypyrotix__ yeah i was just admiring that....     anyway     lshw | less05:51
herodang05:51
Dr_Willis_Hiddenhero,  themes are not the same05:51
Dr_Willis_Hiddenthemes are for the weak!05:51
Dr_Willis_Hidden:)05:51
heronot if you're creating a product05:51
milespwn05:51
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intelikeymiles ?05:52
milesyea05:52
heroso would kdm work but kde would not?05:52
intelikeyhero root05:52
Dr_Willis_Hiddenhero,  does kdm work from the console with 'sudo kdm' ? i never saw that answered05:52
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intelikeyhero   /root   kdm writes there   but gdm doesn't05:52
heroi don't get any errors from sudo kdm05:53
Dr_Willis_Hiddenhero,  so it works? or does it NOT work?05:53
herobut i'm not sure of how to just stop x05:53
Dr_Willis_Hidden*sigh*05:53
mileslaff out loud?05:53
Dr_Willis_Hiddensudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop05:53
Dr_Willis_Hiddenor was it kill?05:53
ardchoillestop05:53
Dr_Willis_Hiddensudo /etc/init.d/kdm  (or gdm or xdm)05:53
heroheh, it says kdm isn't running05:54
Dr_Willis_Hiddenthat will KIll X dead. :)05:54
milespersonally sometimes i just restart x for the heck of it, ctrl+alt+backspace x205:54
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intelikeyand use ?dm   get'em all05:54
Dr_Willis_Hiddenbecause you are using gdm, perhaps?05:54
intelikeysudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop05:54
intelikeythen sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start05:54
Dr_Willis_Hiddenalso i notice that...........05:54
Dr_Willis_Hidden ls -l /etc/rc2.d/*dm05:55
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Dr_Willis_Hiddenlrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2007-04-18 10:07 /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm -> ../init.d/gdm05:55
Dr_Willis_Hiddenlrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2007-04-17 12:52 /etc/rc2.d/S99kdm -> ../init.d/kdm05:55
Dr_Willis_HiddenThose 2 init scripts both read some config file to see if they should start kdm or gem.05:55
intelikeyheh  yeah but the one not in /etc/X11 is ignored05:55
Dr_Willis_HiddenIts interesting the gdm starts at S13, while kdm starts at S99 ....05:55
ardchoilleDr_Willis_Hidden: /etc/X11/default-display-manager  ?05:55
Dr_Willis_Hidden/etc/X11/default-display-manager05:56
hero /usr/bin/kdm05:56
Dr_Willis_Hiddenyea - interesting05:56
pyrotix__intelikey: ty.05:56
Dr_Willis_Hiddenwonder what wouldhappen if ne removed the S13gdm script05:56
intelikeywelcome05:56
heroi dunno05:56
pyrotix__guys if I have an ethernet port of specifications as read in linux as http://pastebin.com/d2e3dbf81, where would I find a windows driver?05:57
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Dr_Willis_HiddenIt has some neat comments. :)05:57
Dr_Willis_Hidden# To start gdm even if it is not the default display manager, change05:58
Dr_Willis_Hidden# HEED_DEFAULT_DISPLAY_MANAGER to "false."05:58
ardchoilleDr_Willis_Hidden: what would happen if he: sudo sed -i 's/gdm/kdm/g' /etc/X11/default-display-manager   and then ctrl+alt+backspace ?05:58
intelikeyoh nvidia nforce2    shouldn't be hard to find pyrotix__   msn search maybe ?05:58
Dr_Willis_Hiddenardchoille,  he said earlier that he had kdm in the  default-display-manager file05:59
ardchoilleDr_Willis_Hidden: yes, but did he restart xorg?05:59
Dr_Willis_Hiddenardchoille,  for all we know kdm has somthing broken.. im not sure he knows half of what hes doing. :)05:59
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intelikeyDr_Willis_Hidden i thought he said it was gdm now but had been kdm05:59
Dr_Willis_HiddenI think he is rebooting to test. :)05:59
ardchoilleok05:59
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Dr_Willis_Hiddenim just exploring a bit.06:00
danianyone know how to install and run frostwire?06:00
Dr_Willis_HiddenOdd that its S99 for KDM and S13 for Gdm06:00
intelikeyi told him to use    <intelikey> sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop     <intelikey> then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start         meh06:00
Dr_Willis_Hidden!frostwire06:00
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire06:00
danikthx06:00
raylucan anyone help with eggdrop?06:00
pyrotix__intelikey: if it can be found with msn search it should be something that is indeed easy to find. I went to http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp, but their does not seem to be a network port listed under nforce06:00
ardchoilleDr_Willis_Hidden: what do those numbers mean? (S99, S13)06:00
Dr_Willis_Hiddenthats how soon in the boot process it starts up06:01
Dr_Willis_HiddenS13 is way high.. S99 is about the end.. i think it IS the end06:01
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ardchoilleah06:01
Dr_Willis_Hiddenls  /etc/rc2.d/06:01
Dr_Willis_Hiddenand look at yours06:01
Dr_Willis_Hiddenthers some 'common' guidelines on what #'s are for what.06:02
intelikeypyrotix__ hmmm   well i haven't done windows in a long time now, so i'm prolly not the guy to advise you on that issue.   maybe  someone in  ##windows06:02
Dr_Willis_HiddenLike 80+ is for after networking is set up (i think)06:02
ardchoille/etc/rc2.d/S99kdm06:02
ardchoilleThere is no gdm06:02
Dr_Willis_HiddenS10sysklogd  - starts the logger stuff way early.06:03
intelikeyDr_Willis_Hidden  that would only apply in  /etc/rc.06:03
Dr_Willis_Hiddenardchoille,  if you have gdm installed there is one.06:03
intelikeyS/06:03
ardchoilleyeah06:03
pyrotix__ty, just the sort of channel I was looking for06:03
Dr_Willis_Hiddenardchoille,  yea. note the stuff in rc2.d is only LINKS to the actual scripts. :)06:03
Dr_Willis_Hiddenthe way the init system works.. is sort of nifty.. Simple.. yet .. well flexiable.06:03
ardchoilleoic06:03
chaoticman i cant for the life of me get nzvbs  to  work06:03
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Dr_Willis_HiddenThis is still the SysV init suystem i think..  :)06:04
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chaoticive tried both knode annnd pan newsreaders06:04
dopeif you forgot your root password is there anyway to recover or change it?06:04
Dr_Willis_Hiddendope,  live cd, edit the passwd file, or chroot to the installed system and use passwd command06:04
ardchoilledope: boot into recovery mode and change it06:04
chaoticthats like forgetting a bios password06:04
intelikeydope sure   recovery mode06:04
Dr_Willis_Hiddenchaotic,  not really.. rather trivial to set it. :)06:05
chaoticdonbt u type it in all the time06:05
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ardchoillethis is why security is out the window if someone has physical access to the machine06:05
intelikeydope  but are you talking about a root password or the password you use with "sudo" ?06:05
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Dr_Willis_Hiddenardchoille,  hit it right on the head....06:06
chaoticcan anyone suggest a good newsreader with   nzb support06:06
intelikeydope ?06:06
Dr_Willis_HiddenNo idea what nzb is06:06
Dikihello peoples06:06
scotty!dvd06:06
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs06:06
chaotic!newsreader06:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about newsreader - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:06
DikiIs it possible to make Konversation use 12 hour time for it's timestamps?06:06
chaotic!newsreaders06:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about newsreaders - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:06
ardchoillechaotic: Does akregator have nzb support?06:07
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alakhia!theora06:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about theora - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:07
Dr_Willis_Hiddenfor info on the Init system read the ---------- >   /etc/init.d/README   file. :) cool06:07
alakhia!ogg06:07
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:07
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Dr_Willis_Hiddenwell Hero never came back!06:08
Dr_Willis_Hidden:)06:08
Dr_Willis_Hiddennight all.06:08
ardchoillenn Dr_Willis_Hidden06:08
chaotichellanzb does06:09
alakhiacan anyone help me? I would like to watch an ogg file in mplayer. I can hear the audio but the video is a still picture ...06:09
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intelikeywhat's that media player for windows that's supposed to play like every known format  ???06:11
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NightBirdintelikey: vlc?06:12
intelikeyplayall or some wacky name like that  ????06:12
milesnokia n80006:12
intelikeyNightBird windows port of vlc ?   nice.    but that's not what i was asking about tho06:13
NightBirduh... ok... well, that's one of the better video players I've used...06:13
NightBirdmost of the others use the windows codec, so it doesn't really matter06:14
intelikeyheard this guy talking about it,  just wondered if it was very common.     and yeah it's M$ junk06:14
milesirc is so cool06:15
milesi cant believe im just now finding it06:15
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intelikey:)06:15
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andrew_____ey can someone help me w/ grub?06:15
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raylumore specifically?06:15
milesniles?06:15
andrew_____i need to know how to change the time it automatically selects a os to boot into06:16
intelikeydepends on the issue and your communication skills  i suppose Andrew06:16
andrew_____oo srry im dualbooting between winxp and kubuntu is that better?06:16
intelikeyandrew_____ ok  give me a second06:16
andrew_____k thank you06:17
andrew_____like the thing only gives you 9 seconds ot select so yea, I was wanting to change it to like 30 secs or maybe never if you can06:17
andrew_____to*06:17
intelikeyandrew_____   the line that says       timeout=06:17
intelikeythe number is in seconds06:17
dasnipaandrew_____: would be nice if you name didnt have 5 bloody _'s06:17
andrew_____lol i didnt do it06:18
intelikeyin the  /boot/grub/menu.lst06:18
andrew_____alright thankyou intelikey06:18
rayluandrew_____, /nick andrew106:18
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raylucan anyone recommend an irc bot?06:18
intelikeyandrew_____ welcome.   and you'll hve to edit that as root06:18
andrew1oo alright the thing automatically checks though andrew_ then andrew__ ect..06:18
andrew1alright thankyou06:18
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intelikeyraylu eggdrop ?06:19
raylueggdrop is way over-complicated06:19
rayluand the docs are spread across like 5 domains06:19
rayluthe default config file has literally over 1000 lines and06:19
rayluthere are two "die" lines that you must remove before the bot works06:19
intelikeythere's a perl bot too  but i make it a point not to reccoment perl06:19
intelikeyerrrr python06:19
andrew1ok I havent been on kubuntu in a while, how do I edit menu.lst under root?06:20
inteliwaspi just got 2 new monitors, what is the best way to get X to congigure them and use xinerama? also i am useing the nvidia binary06:20
rayluhow do i search package descriptions?06:20
andrew1i knwo you need to type like sudo but what else?06:20
luke83hi, i want to set up a feisty mirror for the offline installation of 60 computers, which repositories do i need in my mirrors.list?06:20
rayluandrew1, kdesu kate06:20
intelikeyandrew1   sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst06:20
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andrew1uh thanks whats kdesu kate? lol06:20
intelikeytake your pick   one is a gui based editor the other console based06:20
andrew1oo well idc06:21
mileskate has syntax highlighting!! omgz0rz!06:21
andrew1wichever one is faster and easier so im guessing console is06:21
intelikeymiles but he's only going to change a number in the timeout= line   :)06:21
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mileshaha06:21
chaoticim getiing sypnatic  i heard u can get more packages with that06:21
raylualso, how do you get nano to stop making backup files?06:21
milesit only makes the file if u modify the original06:22
luke83nano -w06:22
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chaoticis it  true not all debian pkgs work on kubuntu06:22
milessorry raylu06:22
milesi just realized im mr obvious06:22
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evaklohello everyone06:22
intelikeyraylu it's a setting in the /etc/nanorc   and i think there is a command line arg06:22
evakloHow are your=06:22
andrew1uhh i think I did something wrong....06:23
andrew1nano came up but its on a black screen...06:23
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milesyou might of typed the name of the file wrong06:23
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destynovawould someone like to help me configure my desktop resolution plz?06:23
milesyou need to do "nano /path/to/file"06:23
intelikeyclose it andrew1 nd use [tab]  key completion of the file name06:23
chaotichow do u uninstall an apt-get  program thats broken06:23
andrew1alrigh thanks06:24
intelikeybash is really neet that way.  checks spelling of path and filename06:24
andrew1sweet thanks it works now :)06:24
andrew1lol im retarded06:25
intelikey:)06:25
intelikeywe're all slow in our own ways06:25
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luke83anyone who knows how to set up a mirror for feisty?06:25
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intelikeyluke83   no.    but   apt-mirror  ???06:26
luke83i'm trying with that already, but is 16gig not a bit small for the whole kubuntu?06:26
intelikeyno06:26
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luke83ok, thanks.06:27
intelikeywait   is that  main restricted universe multiverse backports   ?06:27
intelikeymight be small for all those...    i don't know06:27
luke83do i need backports? i added medibuntu and left out the src reps06:28
intelikeyluke83 depends on the use of the mirror06:28
intelikeywill it be public ?06:28
luke83no just for some schools in africa06:28
luke83they don't have internet and i have to take along everything i need there...06:29
intelikeythen i souldn't think so   but leaving out the source  you need to link to some place that they can get the source   else you violate the  gnu-gpl06:29
intelikeynot that anyone will sue   but i'm all for playing by the rules if posslbe06:30
intelikeypossable  even06:30
ardchoilles/possable/possible/06:31
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intelikeysource code is the foundational eliment of  gnu-gpl06:31
intelikeykeep it free06:31
luke83ok :)06:31
andrew1grrrr how do I save it in nano?06:31
andrew1when I edit menu.lst06:31
intelikeyctrl+X06:32
luke83ctrl - w06:32
ardchoilledid you start nano with sudo?06:32
intelikeyread the bottom three lines06:32
andrew1yea06:32
intelikeyluke83 W or O  ?06:32
andrew1well I typed ^X but nothing happend but I'll just pressed what yall said to...06:32
dopewhat's the command to look at how much space is on the harddrive06:32
luke83oops, -O yes06:33
intelikeyandrew1   the carrot '^' means the control key06:33
andrew1ooooo ok06:33
andrew1well dawgon why cant they say ctrl06:33
intelikeycarrot or rafter   what ever you call it...06:33
andrew1yea i kno what the carrot is06:34
milesgive the drummer something06:34
luke83ok, thanks and good night.06:34
luke83exit06:34
intelikeyandrew1   lol     there are other oddities you'll have to get used too if you use linux much  :)06:34
andrew1lol06:35
andrew1ok yea what button is M-06:35
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andrew1shift or something?06:36
intelikeyheh   ^M    return key06:36
andrew1well i mean to backup file06:36
andrew1M-B06:36
mileswhat i want to know is...in beryl, what is the <Super> key?!06:36
intelikeymeta   alt06:36
andrew1what do I press for M-B...06:36
andrew1oo so press alt+B?06:36
Biovoreyeah.. windows does linefeed/carage return...  Unix just does linefeed and mac does just CR..  (Man someone make up there mind!!)06:36
Daisuke-Idoyour "windows logo" key is <Super>06:37
intelikeymiles ctrl ?06:37
ShockValueok, xover question.. i used to use dvddecrypter to rip the VOB files (of movies I own) from the dvd's to my HD.  what can do that in linux?06:37
intelikeyDaisuke-Ido hmmm   depend on the mapping or is that default ?06:37
BiovoreShockValue: yes06:37
BiovoreShockValue: mplayer/mencoder can do it.. (all from the command line)06:37
Daisuke-Idointelikey: i *think* that's default but i won't swear to it06:38
andrew1grr im lost >.< whats the difference between Append and Prepend? lol isn't Append the oen I need to hit to write the backup file?06:38
rayluappend = at end, prepend = at beginning06:38
intelikeyk   i'm not in a gui enough to know what default is...  so i ws just asking06:38
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Daisuke-Idoappend writes to the end, prepe... he got to it first06:38
raylulol :P06:38
intelikeyandrew1   a=after pre=before06:38
andrew1... dang ok lol Im guessing "To Files" means to write the file? cuz there aint nothing else I can press...06:38
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andrew1grrr....how do I save it again?06:40
intelikey^X06:40
andrew1yea and after that06:40
andrew1i said y06:40
intelikeyand enter06:40
andrew1then it went to "File Name to Write: /boot/grub/menu.lst"06:41
intelikey[return] 06:41
intelikey[enter] 06:41
andrew1oo i never thought that would be so simple06:41
andrew1lol i figured id have to press something like ^write or something....06:41
andrew1sweeet alright thanks for your help guys, even though that was such a simple task...XD06:42
intelikeyandrew1 welcome,   come back when you have more interesting questions..06:42
intelikeylate.06:42
intelikey/nick .*06:43
milesandrew1 loves non-gui text eds06:43
Daisuke-Idowhy not just kdesu into kate and do it the really easy way? :D06:43
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intelikeyhe may not have been in a gui ?     idk06:44
Daisuke-Idoi understand the value in learning vi and/or emacs, but damn...06:44
epimethwow... I actually connected... yay!06:44
epimethahoy! :-)06:44
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intelikeyhe was presented with both options and chose the cli way06:44
intelikeyepimeth .06:44
epimethintelikey, Daisuke-Ido.06:45
Daisuke-Idoepimeth:06:45
Daisuke-Idogreetings and salutations06:45
epimethgmorning ;-)06:45
milesis there a cli irc client for kde?06:45
milesi wanna try it06:45
Daisuke-Idomiles: irssi06:46
intelikeyheh that's non-sensical miles     a cli anything wont be for kde    heh06:46
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epimethmiles: 'cli' and 'for kde' are opposites amigo... but yes, like Daisuke-Ido said... irssi06:46
milestrue...06:46
Daisuke-Idoi took that as "for linux"06:46
lopin_Anyone know how to get the wifi working in kubuntu, cause I'm lost...06:46
mileswell...you know how konversation is native to kde06:46
Daisuke-Idomiles: yeah, but it's a gui app06:46
milesi didnt know if a cli component existed06:46
intelikeymiles bitchx  irssi  epic  xchat-text   and probably others06:46
milesbitchx pwnz cuz of its name06:47
intelikeywell i don't like the name   but that is what i use06:47
Daisuke-Idoalthough using ncurses, irssi technically has a gui (i remember this argument from the other day with aptitude) but it's very very basic06:47
epimeththo I'm at a loss as to why anyone would want to use a cli irc client?  If you *had* to then I can understand... but want? *shudder*06:48
epimethheh.... ncurses = gui, eh?06:48
intelikeyepimeth how about "i don't use a gui"06:48
Daisuke-Idoepimeth: irssi is extremely flexible and infinitely extensible.  there's no reason to NOT want to use it :D06:48
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Daisuke-Ido(disclaimer, i don't use it)06:48
epimethintelikey: in which case, you *have* to use the cli, so I'm okay with it! :-)06:48
Daisuke-Idoepimeth: he doesn't have to, he could choose to use a gui and gui client :P06:49
Daisuke-Idohe chooses not to :D06:49
tommymanncan someone help me with an external that's not automatically showing up06:49
intelikeyepimeth actually it choice.   xorg is installed    just not running06:49
intelikeyit si06:49
intelikeyit is06:49
tommymannthe fstab file is blank even06:49
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tommymannmtab doesn't show /dev/sdb/06:50
tommymannanyone have any experience with externals06:50
tommymannor where to go to learn how to add drive to fstab06:50
intelikeytommymann mtab only shows what is mounted     less a few things06:50
tommymannoh well that's good to know06:50
intelikeytommymann you want it by device or blkid ?06:50
tommymannI don't know06:51
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tommymannI can see sdb in the filesystem06:51
tommymannbut it won't mount with the mount command06:51
intelikeytommymann issue command    blkid | grep sdb06:52
intelikeyshow output06:52
tommymannI don't remember how to do the straight up and down symbol06:53
tommymannin between blkid and grep06:53
tommymannI'm working on my girlfriends laptop so I can't cut and paste06:54
intelikeycopy and paste it into the konsole06:54
intelikeywhy not ?06:54
tommymannI'm on two computers06:54
intelikeyoh.06:54
tommymannit mounts automagically in mine06:54
intelikeythe pipe is normally shift of the back slash06:54
tommymanngot it06:54
tommymanndev/sdb1/ type "ntfs"06:55
intelikeyand the blkid is ?06:55
tommymannit gave me nothing06:55
tommymannthat's it06:55
intelikeyhmmm ok we'll have to use device.06:56
intelikeysudo nano /etc/fstab06:56
intelikey/dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 ntfs-3g auto,fmask=111,dmask=000 0 006:57
tommymannits only showing sda1 sda5 and scd006:57
tommymannwhich is kub partition swap and cdrom06:58
intelikeyadd that line  ^06:58
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intelikeythen save and exit     then install   ntfs-3g06:59
intelikey!ntfs-3g06:59
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions06:59
intelikeyand you are all set.06:59
intelikeywe hope.06:59
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tommymann /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 ntfs-3g auto,fmask=111,dmask=000 0 006:59
intelikeyyes   add that in the fstab07:00
tommymannhow do you add a line in this thing07:00
jonathan_hello07:00
emily_intelikey this is tommymann on his girlfriends computer07:00
jonathan_kubuntu installed!!07:00
intelikeytommymann possion the cursor   and start typing ???07:00
emily_this will probably be easier07:01
jonathan_but there's one prob, I can't access my data hdd07:01
intelikeyjonathan_ format ?07:01
intelikey!ntfs | jonathan_07:01
ubotujonathan_: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse07:01
jonathan_nope07:01
jonathan_using apt-get install kubuntu-desktop07:02
tommymannhow do you save this thing07:02
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tommymannI normally edit in kate07:02
jonathan_yes, ntfs format07:02
intelikeytommymann control + x07:02
jonathan_I have 3 hdd07:02
jonathan_1 for ubuntu, 1 for xp, and one for data07:03
tommymannawesp,e07:03
jonathan_both xp and data must be ntfs07:03
tommymannawesome07:03
jonathan_I can't access my data hdd now07:03
intelikeyjonathan_ ok so read the link ubotu spit at you07:03
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jonathan_ok07:05
jonathan_well than07:07
jonathan_I prob solved07:07
jonathan_all prob solved07:07
intelikeygood on ya then07:08
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tommymannintelikey I still have got nothing07:08
tommymanncan't find /dev/sdb07:08
intelikeytommymann did you install ntfs-3g ?07:08
tommymannyes07:08
intelikeytommymann dev/sdb ?    it's  dev/sdb107:09
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intelikeysudo mount /dev/sdb107:09
tommymannntfs logfile unclean07:10
jojesudo bash diskmounter07:10
intelikeyohhh yuch.    get in windows and  scandisk that bad boy07:10
emily_$LogFile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0)07:10
emily_Failed to mount '/dev/sdb1': Operation not supported07:10
emily_Mount is denied because NTFS logfile is unclean. Choose one action:07:10
emily_   Boot Windows and shutdown it cleanly, or if you have a removable07:10
emily_   device then click the 'Safely Remove Hardware' icon in the Windows07:10
emily_   taskbar notification area before disconnecting it.07:10
emily_Or07:10
emily_   Run ntfsfix version 1.13.1 on Linux unless you have Vista.07:10
emily_Or07:10
emily_   Mount the NTFS volume with the 'ro' option in read-only mode.07:10
intelikeyohhh yuch.    get in windows and  scandisk that bad boy07:11
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tommymanndamn07:11
intelikeyemily_    get in windows and  scandisk  that bad boy    fix errors   then it should mount.07:11
tommymannwhat is ntfsfix07:12
intelikeyyeh   the newer scandisk07:12
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tommymannshit07:12
intelikeyi think  they went  chkdisk   scandisk  chkdisk ntfsfix     iirc07:13
intelikeyi haven't liked/used/tolerated windows in years07:13
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evilmmi cut the cord on windows completely on windows with 6.0607:15
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intelikeyok fellows that's all for me07:17
intelikeygooday and god bless07:17
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inteliwaspwhat is the command to reset xorg.conf?07:19
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t00nai can't get my mic to work...07:21
t00nait was working on Odeo a second ago, but when I tried messing with KMix, it stopped working!07:21
inteliwaspt00na: is it muted?07:22
inteliwaspt00na: check the status lights in kmix and unmute it, then it will work07:22
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t00nai turned on the green lights for Line-in and Microphone07:24
t00naniether seem to work07:24
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inteliwaspwell i am in console mode at the moment but anve you tried the red lights?07:25
t00nayes, i tried one on Line-in and then on Microphone07:25
t00naniether worked.07:25
inteliwaspdoes it still work in that program you were useing?07:25
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t00nait doesn't work in KRec, no07:26
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t00nanor in Odeo07:27
ubunterhello world07:27
t00nathe world greets you, ubunter07:27
internet24l07:28
internet24j[07:28
ubunterthanx you world07:28
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inteliwaspt00na: well i cant think anymore and i think most of the others are asleep, you might want to ask again later07:28
worldYou're welcome07:28
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t00nainteliwasp: i was just told on #linuxactionshow that there's a nice Ubuntu Wiki article on this, so i'll look there07:29
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t00nabut thanks07:29
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Darkriftwhat can i use to kill a ntfs partition, and if that was the main boot partition, will that kill grub?07:30
Darkriftgparted wont touch it07:30
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dvmIs it possible to use grid in GTK to display the datas from DB?07:30
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BankseyHi all, I have a problem with Juk, When I try to play a song, Nothing happens, I have all the Codecs, And songs play perfectly on Amarok, Any help would be much apprciated.07:36
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esteban_hola07:37
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SolifugusWhere is the printer queue utility?07:40
internet24_vta07:40
Solifugusdont know what vta means07:40
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dionikciao a tutti07:48
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ciaconHi all... I havn't restarted my Computer in about 2 weeks by now... I was wondering why my BIOS-Clock has a fairly heavy skew (sometimes up to 15miinutes/day)... I first realised this after a few "ntpdate" calls.... How can this occure??07:59
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K-Ryanit's too fast or slow08:00
K-Ryani don't think there's much you could do about that08:00
milesdo you guys get paid to be here?08:01
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ciaconit used to be like a minute per per week... now it is like 10 minutes to slow per day!08:01
milesit loves life08:02
ciaconwhat also worries me, as, it could be the BIOS-Battery - will my box reboot?08:02
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xerohow do i run "sudo martian_modem /dev/modem" then hide the shell?08:05
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Miltos01hi ppl:-)08:05
sonoftheclayrxero: put & at the end of it08:06
xerook so & will hide the shell after execution?08:06
Miltos01i made a blundder! i reinstalled nvidia drivers (replacing new) and now kde can't start? pls help!!!08:06
sonoftheclayrxero: it will bring the prompt up again so you can close it08:07
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xerothe process must contenue running...08:07
sonoftheclayrxero: it will08:08
xerosweet08:08
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xerothanks08:08
sonoftheclayrnp08:08
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xeroim gonna try it... but im gonna have to disconnect, so i will be back08:09
Fragilitydoes anyone know of a good program that could analyze as many things about my computer as possible08:09
FragilityI'm having some complex problems and would love more data about the integrity of various devices08:10
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xerono cigar...08:11
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Darkriftanyone know how to get djvu support in firefox?08:12
xerook l guess ill explain more in detail. i have a shortcut on my desktop that runs this in a shell... it asks for the root passwd, then maps my modem to /dev/modem08:12
Darkriftive been going in circles for 35 mins08:12
Darkriftfirefox plugin for linux takes you to a lib page, that page has an instaler that doesnt install a firefox plugin, and so on....08:13
sonoftheclayrxero: try kdesu instead of sudo and don't run it in a shell08:13
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xerook08:13
xeroill be back i guess... gotta test08:14
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xerosonoftheclayr you are awesome!08:16
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xeronow... how do i get kppp to load after that08:16
xeroits gotta be oneclick... (for my grandmother)08:17
Fragilityfor some reason things seem to take a long time to load on the command line08:17
Fragilitylike when I open it up it takes a very long time for my name and computer to show08:17
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Fragilitywhat type of failure would cause that?08:18
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ciaconcan I use KPPP for ADSL?08:18
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Darkrifti guess nobody knows08:20
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wepihahello. I have a network bridge script I want to be run (as root, or whatever) startup, where would I put said script?08:21
wepiha*at startup08:21
xerodarkrift: im looking08:21
destynovawhat part of the xorg.conf defines the resolution?08:22
Darkriftnormally the part at the bottom08:22
Darkriftit will have a lsit of res's08:22
destynovado i just retype the resolution?08:23
destynovai need 1440X90008:23
Darkrifti added a new one because my widescreen res wasnt in there08:23
Darkriftso i added one in the same format as the rest08:23
destynovaat the top?08:24
Darkrifthold on08:24
xerodarkrift: what exactly have you installed for djvu?08:24
wepihadestynova: you should be looking in the Section "Screen"08:24
destynovaokies i see that08:25
DarkriftModes"1024x768""800x600""640x480"08:25
Darkriftthats how my old line was08:25
Darkriftthe new one is08:25
xerodestynova: at the top of xorg.conf theres a command to reconfigure your xorg.conf08:25
DarkriftModes"1280x800""1024x768""800x600""640x480"08:25
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xeroits safer08:25
Darkriftmine didnt detect the widescreen res properly08:26
Darkriftso someone in here told me how to edit it08:26
xeroohi was told to usethe wizard... oh well its all the same08:27
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destynovahow do i get to the  wizard?08:27
xeroits in the notes at tghe top08:27
xeroyou know all of the #'s?08:27
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lucahi everyone08:28
K-Ryanhi luca08:28
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lucadoes anyone here have very buggering issues with system tray and compiz fusion? :)08:28
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luca(and maybe also with knetworkmanager)08:28
K-RyanYou can try #ubuntu-effects08:28
K-RyanYour best bet is in there08:29
lucasame issues, but compiz fusion works better ;)08:29
destynovahow do i edit the xorg.conf?08:29
lucaoh sorry channel08:29
lucathx :)08:29
K-Ryanluca: You can ask in here08:29
destynovabuffer is readonly08:29
K-RyanYou'll just get a better response in there08:29
lucadestynova: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf - but WHY?08:29
lucaK-Ryan ok thx :D08:29
Darkriftxero, nevermind, i found a viewer that works good enough08:29
xerook08:30
destynovai'm trying t change my default res in xorg.conf with emacs08:30
Darkriftid use kate08:30
Darkrifteasier08:30
K-Ryandefault res can be set in system settings08:30
Darkriftsudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:30
xerosudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg08:30
K-RyanDarkrift: Depends on the person, I like nano for instance08:30
K-RyanDark: kdesu kate08:30
K-Ryan!sudo08:31
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.08:31
Darkriftbut still, kate is easier tehn emacs08:31
K-Ryan!kdesu08:31
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lucabtw, I have some issues with knetworkmanager08:31
K-RyanDarkrift: He might be used to it and or wants to use it08:31
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Darkrifti c08:31
lucaoften when I boot it crashes and I am forced to kill and reopen the application :(08:31
Darkriftok, sorry, destynova do as you wish, because yo might be used to doing it that way08:32
meuhlolwhat application you need to reboot?08:32
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K-RyanDarkrift: If he were using nano, I could understand you saying that, but people usually don't use emacs by accident.08:32
lucaknetworkmanager08:32
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lucasometimes it stops dead, does not even show in the tray08:33
lucamostly when I boot08:33
DarkriftK-Ryan, I installed emacs because i was told to use it due to the syntax highliting, then i found how much of a pita it is, and that kate supports syntax highliting too08:33
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Darkriftso i sorta ended up using it by accident08:34
K-RyanDarkrift: Well that's good for coding08:34
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lucakate is great IMHO :D not using any other text editor (and I am no programmer, but it's still great :) )08:34
K-RyanBut he's just modifying his xorg.conf, he just needs basic editing.08:34
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destynovanow everything is really huge!08:37
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Miltos01i made a blundder! i reinstalled nvidia drivers (replacing new) and now kde can't start? pls help!!!08:39
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destynovayay now i'm stuck at 800x600!08:42
meuhlolxorg.conf edited?08:43
destynovanah from the system setting menu08:43
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meuhlolwhat grafic card you are? nvidia?08:44
meuhlolif so i maybe can help you, if ati i can't probably :/08:44
destynovanvidia08:45
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meuhlolopen an konsole08:46
meuhloland try that: sudo nvidia-settings08:46
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_Iamda!list08:47
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots08:47
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destynovaok a thingy popedup08:48
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meuhloldestynova: can you change your res in nvidia-settings?08:48
destynovaand i got some errors08:48
destynovanope08:48
meuhlolreinstall drivers ;)08:49
destynovai did it thru the add/remove programs thingy08:49
meuhloldo it manually08:51
meuhlolvia a console08:51
destynovaitsa nvidia 610008:51
destynovaintigrated08:51
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destynovadoes my processor effect my video drivers08:53
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destynovai'm running a 32 bit os ona 64bit amd08:53
Darkriftme too08:54
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Darkriftseems to work fine08:54
destynovaso i get linux ia32?08:54
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meuhloldestynova: proc not affect your grafik gard08:57
meuhloldestynova: wait08:57
destynovai got sumthin called .run08:57
meuhloldestynova: you have amd 64?08:57
destynovayeah08:57
meuhlolokey, did you installed linux-k7 ?08:58
destynovai dunno what that is08:58
destynovai'm on kubuntu 32 bit08:58
meuhloloh08:58
meuhloldo that (follow me)08:59
meuhlolsudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.backup08:59
Miltos01i made a blundder! i reinstalled nvidia drivers (replacing new) and now kde can't start? pls help!!!08:59
Darkriftwould if i could Miltos0108:59
meuhlolsudo aptitude install nvidia-glx08:59
meuhlolsudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)09:00
meuhlolsudo nvidia-xconfig09:00
Miltos01meuhlol...thanks, i will try...09:00
meuhloldestynova: and after restart09:00
vzduchdestynova: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -> pick the nvidia driver, choose the correct resolutions your monitor can handle and, preferrably, use the Advanced setting for your monitor frequencies, you can enter them directly there and all will be fine :)09:00
meuhlolvzduch: nice too :)09:01
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meuhlol!list09:04
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots09:04
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destynovaok i did all that09:04
destynovabut havnt restarted yet09:04
vzduchok, then restart X09:05
Miltos01meuhlol...nothing...09:05
meuhlolctrl + alt + return09:05
meuhlolMiltos01: restart xorg09:05
Miltos01meyhlol, how?09:05
vzduchmeuhlol: no.. either Ctrl + Alt + Backspace (kill) or 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart' (clean)09:06
meuhlolMiltos01: ctrl + alt + <---09:06
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Miltos01meuhlol, i the system freezes on kubuntu logo, i can't get to command line!09:07
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sonoftheclayri'm having some troubles with the nvidia drivers. Every now and again X will just restart, usually when i'm doing something. it just did it twice in about 10 minutes. can anyone help?09:07
meuhlolctrl + alt +f109:08
meuhloledit xorg.conf09:08
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meuhlolin a safe mode09:08
meuhloli have to go, sorry09:08
vzducho009:08
Miltos01meyhlol, ok now i am on the command line, how to edit xorg.conf?09:09
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vzduchMiltos01: e.g. 'sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf'09:09
Miltos01vzduch ok...and thanks09:09
Ze_MRiddell: ping09:09
destynovaok i have restarted09:09
vzduchdestynova: now you should be able to properly adjust your resolution09:10
vzduchif it doesn't already show, that is09:10
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shaneedhai everybody09:11
destynovahow do i get back to that nvidia x config thingy?09:11
shaneedjoin09:12
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vzduchdestynova: you mean 'sudo nvidia-xconfig' (iirc)?09:12
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Miltos01vzduch, what to edit?09:13
destynovathe little progy that poped up09:14
shaneed_jsdfk09:14
shaneed_hai anybody know how to install kde4 in feisty09:15
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destynovadamn...09:16
vzduchMiltos01: compare your Device section w/ this --> http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/1755 - 'Identifier' is the name of your gfx card and can be set ad libitum09:16
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destynovai got lost somehow09:17
Darkriftsame problem still destynova ?09:18
Miltos01vzduch, thank you very much, problem solved!!! i replaced nvidia with vesa, and now i now what should i do (i hope)!!!09:19
comodocan someonee tell me how to check for direct rendering09:19
destynovanow i cant get to the window to change  my res :(09:19
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Darkriftyou added in the new res?09:19
Darkriftas the first one on the line?09:19
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destynovano i havnt edited the xorg.conf yet09:20
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Darkriftfor me, i edited the conf, then i restarted x (the sloppy way ctrl+alt+backspace) and it booted with the correct res09:21
Darkriftthats how easy it was09:21
Darkriftand someone in here told me how to do it, so i assume its somewhat safe if you do it properly09:21
destynovai tried to edit it but it told me it was read only09:21
Darkriftjust add "****x****"tab09:21
Darkriftyeah, yo have to open it as root09:21
Darkriftkdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:21
Darkrifttry that09:21
Darkriftyou should be able to save it as root09:22
Darkriftand....09:22
Darkriftkate will make an automatic backup called xorg.conf~ ( i think )09:22
Darkriftso if you crash, use command line to fix it09:22
Darkriftrestore the backup and you can try again09:22
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destynovamy xorg.conf looks totally diff now09:24
destynova:(09:24
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Darkriftits ok09:24
Darkriftjust find the highest bit section09:24
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DarkriftDepth2409:24
Darkriftlook for the line right under that09:24
Ze_Mto whos running kde-3.5.7, when running kcmshell clock doest it appear servers to sincronize the hour?09:25
Darkriftbecause i think 24bit depth is the default09:25
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Darkrifti am rnning 3.5.709:25
Darkriftwhat is kcmshell?09:25
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comodoi have a small problem i have nvidia drivers working and beryl but when i start it up the bar on top of windows disapers the one that has minimize maxamize and everything09:26
Ze_Mrun in konsole sudo kcmshell clock09:26
Darkriftthats your windows decorations comodo09:26
Ze_Mdarkkish: you do know whats konsole right?09:26
Darkriftright click on the berl icon and try to "reload window decorator"09:26
Ze_Mmean Darkrift09:26
Darkriftif that doesnt work, try to reload your window manager09:26
Darkriftyes, lemme try Ze_M09:26
destynovagonna reboot09:27
Darkriftok, ran it09:27
Darkriftthe clock config opened09:27
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DikiQuick question: What is Konversation's default install path?09:27
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Darkriftseems to work Ze_M09:28
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Ze_MDarkrift: read what i asked09:28
Ze_M[08:26:05]  <Ze_M> to whos running kde-3.5.7, when running kcmshell clock doest it appear servers to sincronize the hour?09:28
Darkrifti see it, but dont understnad the q09:29
Darkriftwhen i resized the window, i see the "administrator mode" button09:29
Darkriftif i click on that, i can "auto adjust time and date"09:29
Darkriftthen i can change servers to sync to09:29
Ze_MDarkrift: do you see any options or fileds to select any servers?09:29
Darkriftyes09:29
Darkriftright above the clock09:29
Ze_Mok09:29
Darkriftbut you need admin mode to do it09:29
vzduchZe_M: don't run X programs from terminal w/ sudo, it can mess up your permissions.. that's what kdesu is for09:29
Ze_Mat last09:29
Darkriftyeah, i just learned that tonight09:29
Ze_Mvzduch: you can say that to newbies09:30
Darkrifti didnt know kdesu worked in konsole09:30
Darkriftso i always went to the stupid run dialog to do it09:30
Ze_Mrun kdesu konqueror09:30
vzduch[09:26:32]  < Ze_M> run in konsole sudo kcmshell clock <-- I think it was you who said that ;)09:30
Ze_Myou can run it konsole or by clicking alt+f209:31
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Ze_Mvzduch: so?09:31
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Ze_Mbetter go packaging dkms alsa09:32
Ze_Mthan enter in this discussion...09:32
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Darkrifthow do i change the look of the bash prompt?09:33
Darkrifti did it years ago on freebsd, but dont remember how09:34
Ze_MDarkrift: change bashrc09:34
vzduchZe_M: you can package whatever you wish, if you give what I perceive to be bad advice to n00bs I can say that :)09:34
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Darkriftlol09:35
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Ze_Mvzduch: as i said i will not discuss any with you but no one gaved any advice, just told Darkrift to try it09:35
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Ze_Mand newboes must start learning at some point, and many want to learn09:35
Darkriftwb destynova, did it work?09:35
destynovatnx for the help everyone09:35
destynovanah09:36
destynovastill fecked up09:36
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Darkriftdamn09:36
Darkriftthat sucks09:36
Darkriftworked great for me09:36
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Ze_MDarkrift: you another way to change prompt09:37
destynovaagian,   tnx for all your efforts i'm gonna call it a night and try agian tomorow09:37
Darkriftgood luck09:37
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Ze_MDarkrift: create for example a file /etc/profile.d/newbash.sh09:37
destynovatnx :)09:37
Ze_MDarkrift: edit it, and enter;09:38
Ze_M#!/bin/sh09:38
Ze_MPS1="[\u@newbash \W] \\$ "09:38
Ze_Mthan run konsole and there you have it09:38
Darkriftcool09:39
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Darkrifti wish i could scale my whole display to be smaller09:43
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Darkriftlike using a higher res would do09:43
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yeniklasorWhere can I see my 'cpu, ram..' (system hardware) ?09:43
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Ze_MDarkrift: also easy09:44
Ze_MDarkrift: enter /etc/X11 and edit xresources, search for a line that says some like this: Xft.dpi: 90     and then put comment it bu putting a ! in the begining09:45
Ze_MDarkrift: or for example change the value 90 to 8009:45
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Ze_Mand its /etc/X11/Xresources, then logout09:46
stephenhow do you see ram etc i wanna know too09:46
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Ze_Mstephen: run free in konsole09:46
grulcat /proc/cpuinfo09:47
stephenthx09:47
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yeniklasorHow can I check how much Ram and CPU I have?09:48
Ze_Mgrul: thats only for cpu09:48
Darkrifti dont have a file there, just a folder Ze_M09:48
Ze_Myeniklasor: just read the 2 lines before09:48
Ze_MDarkrift: where?09:48
Darkrift. /etc/X11/Xresources/09:48
Darkriftits a folder09:49
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stephensorry, one more thing, how do you change the resolution09:49
Ze_MDarkrift: show me the output of /etc/X11/09:49
stephen!pastebin09:49
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)09:49
Ze_Mstephen: run kcontrol and earch it09:49
grulwell, free for ram, cat /proc/cpuinfo for cpu, df for hdds, lspci for most other devices09:50
Ze_Mstephen: run kcontrol and search it09:50
gruli don't know any more commands for this purpose, heh09:50
Darkriftapp-defaults  default-display-manager  rgb.txt  xinit  xorg1.conf  xorg.conf~  xorg.conf.backup  xserver   Xsession.d        XvMCConfig09:50
Darkriftcursors       fonts                    X        xkb    xorg.conf   xorg.conf!  Xresources        Xsession  Xsession.options  Xwrapper.config09:50
Darkriftwas only 2 lines, figured pasting was safe09:50
Ze_MDarkrift: of course isnt here, paste in pastbin09:50
stephenwhat is kcontrol09:51
stephen?09:51
Ze_MDarkrift: run ls -as /etc/X1109:51
stephensorry ive only been on linux for 2 days09:51
Ze_Mstephen: fo read docs09:51
Ze_Mstephen: google is your friend09:51
yeniklasorgrul : you are brilliant09:51
yeniklasorthanks09:51
Ze_Mstephen: sorry but your simply too much green, cant help in that level, google09:52
Darkriftpastebin';d09:52
stephensimply too much green lol09:53
stephen?09:53
Darkriftgreen = new09:53
Darkrifti believe09:53
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Ze_MDarkrift: paste the output of ls -as /etc/X11   in pastebin.com09:54
Darkrifthttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30076/09:54
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stephenoh i see09:55
stephenlol09:55
yeniklasorWhat is the meaning of i686, i3** for cpu, isn't all these 32 bit?09:55
gruli686 is 64 bit if i'm not mistaken09:55
serciknono09:56
Darkrift586 was the first pentium i believe09:56
Ze_Mdarkkish: sorry, i mean ls -als /etc/X1109:56
yeniklasormy cpu 32 bit but kubuntu says i68609:56
serciki686 is not 64 bit09:56
gruloh09:56
Ze_Myeniklasor: yes09:56
serciki686 are the pentium 3 i think09:56
yeniklasormine p409:56
sercikp4 is 68609:56
Ze_Msercik: not quite09:56
Darkrifthttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30077/09:57
Darkriftno09:57
grulhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I68609:57
Ze_M586, 686 are all for x86 that is 32 bit09:57
Ze_Mabout being p3 or p4 or other is another issue09:57
Ze_Mdarkkish: show me now ls -als /etc/X11/Xresources09:58
Darkrifti did09:58
Darkriftread up 5 lines09:58
Darkriftoh09:58
Darkrifti c09:58
Darkrifttheres only one file in there09:58
Ze_Mfor example mandriva uses i586 for all 32bit09:59
Ze_MDarkrift: you showed ls -als /etc/X11, now im asking  ls -als /etc/X11/Xresources09:59
Darkrift4 -rw-r--r--  1 root root  319 2007-02-13 03:02 x11-common09:59
Darkriftthats the only file in that folder09:59
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Ze_Mdarkkish: show me the output of: grep -r Xft.dpi /etc/X1110:00
Darkriftthere is no output10:00
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Ze_Mand grep -r dpi /etc/X1110:01
Darkrift!pastebin10:01
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waylandbillx86 meant that the 32-bit instruction set was backwards compatible with the 8086's 16-bit instruction set.10:01
Darkrifthttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30078/10:01
yeniklasorNow how can I check in which speed is working my ram (400, 333...)?10:01
stephencat /proc/cpuinfo10:03
stephenthats what i did earlier10:03
stephenit showed my ram and other stuff10:03
Ze_MDarkrift: seams kubuntu uses another file, i dont use kubuntu, i use mandriva, kubuntu its nothing more than a medium distro10:03
grulwhat do you mean by medium?10:04
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Ze_MDarkrift: sorry that i cant help on this, maybe read some docs from kubuntu or ask some kubuntu developer10:04
yeniklasorstephen | I didn't see there about ram10:04
stephen:(10:04
waylandbillmedium?10:04
stepheni cant remember what i did10:04
yeniklasorI can copy-paste if you want :D10:04
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Ze_Mgrul: for example kubuntu doesnt have a panel to configure all aspects of the distro, in that point even windows wins to ubuntu k/x10:05
waylandbillIf I count everything installable by apt, then I could say something about other distros not having the abiity to install as much. That seems a short fall in my book.10:05
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Ze_Mgrul: still some important things to kubuntu so that can be considered a good distro10:06
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grulI see10:06
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Ze_Mkubuntu is very known due to have guys with money that do a lot of punlicity10:07
Ze_Mpublicity*10:07
Ze_Mthats all10:07
yeniklasorKubuntu's file manager is not good (konqueror) :D10:08
grulWell, so be it, but the more people migrating from windows to a linux based operating system the better, right? :) even if it's not the best distro10:08
Ze_Myeniklasor: konqueror is a great browser10:08
stepheni like the clean feel of linux10:08
Ze_Mi always use konqueror10:08
waylandbillso. publicity is good. I like the fact that they didn't cower to microsoft's strong arm on the patent issue.10:08
yeniklasorBut not good file browser10:08
Ze_Mwaylandbill: no one refered to that10:08
grulin my opinion kubuntu's file manager is called konsole :D10:09
Ze_Mand that have to do with linux, not kubuntu itself10:09
stepheni really want to change the god dam  resolution but i cant10:09
stepheni need a good guide on kubuntu10:09
Ze_Mand ubuntu is debian based10:09
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waylandbillseeing as that's canonical's position, it is relevant to kubuntu. It was my opinion why I like *ubuntu.10:10
Ze_Mstephen: change to mandriva that you have a panel to configure everything10:10
stephenwtf is that?10:10
stephenlol10:10
Ze_M*ubuntu have what all distros have10:10
Ze_Mstephen: one of the bests distros out there10:11
yeniklasorstephen | I downloaded drivers from nvidia official site, then installed it from console. Now almost everything I have like windows's nvidia drivers :D10:11
Ze_Mwell its time for me to go10:11
stephenbye10:11
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waylandbillnot sure why someone is on this channel telling everyone to switch to their distro is beyond me. Probably trolling or something. sheesh.10:13
yeniklasorKubuntu don't have another file manager? kunqueror sucks. I can't change pictures' preview and file choosing with "hold ctrl and mouse" isn't good.10:14
Carnage\Try krusader10:14
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yeniklasorDownloading krusader10:15
stephenWTF there is no WINE app for kubuntu10:15
stephenonl ubuntu10:15
stephen:(10:15
yeniklasorwine can work with Kubuntu too :S10:16
stephenoooh10:16
stephenhow?10:16
yeniklasorjust install it10:16
yeniklasorsudo apt-get install wine10:16
Riyoxke!wine10:16
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.10:16
yeniklasor:D10:16
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waylandbillyeniklasor: there's tons of installable stuff. Just because it comes with one file manager or doesn't come with something doesn't mean it's not available. Just a couple clicks away. :-)10:18
stephenyeniklasor: thanks10:18
waylandbillthat was intended for stephen btw. :-)10:18
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yeniklasorwaylandbill | I like ubuntu's file manager. Can I set it default?10:19
stephenso this wine thing allows me to use windows applications?10:20
mboneCan't read Jpg file on NTFS drive , why ? :P10:20
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mboneUsing Konqueror and the image can't show10:20
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mbonealso digiKam10:21
yeniklasorstephen | Not all windows app10:21
waylandbillstephen: yes, but usually it's best to find a native linux app. and... wine doesn't support all DX9 games.10:21
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stephenim not interested in games lol10:22
stepheni just want a few apps10:22
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yeniklasorWhich apps? :D10:23
waylandbillyeniklasor: I don't think you can make Nautilus the default file manager, but you can run it as an app under KDE.10:23
lunar-ravencan anyone tell me how to make an ntfs partition in linux? is this possible?10:23
yeniklasoryes possible10:24
waylandbilllunar-raven: gparted should be able to make an ntfs partition IIRC10:24
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stephenwtf how do i use this WINE thing?10:25
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waylandbillyeniklasor: I guess the other possibility is to run kde apps under a gnome desktop. :-)10:25
stepheni tried to open a windows app and it didnt work10:25
waylandbillstephen:   wine application.exe10:25
waylandbillstephen: which windows app?10:25
stephenits a tv channel streamer10:25
dotzhi how do i install the basic X11 libraries libXext, libX11, libXt, libSM, libICE ? or how do i check if it is installed already10:25
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yeniklasorwaylandbill | Nautilus says if I run it from console "/bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: not found"10:26
waylandbillstephen: I'm sure an app that handes video streaming probably uses D10:26
waylandbillstephen: I'm sure an app that handes video streaming probably uses Direct X10:26
stephen:(10:27
yeniklasorstephen : Me too couldn't get work my tvtuner10:27
waylandbillyeniklasor: sounds like gnome uses the Enlightened Sound Daemon and you don't have it installed.10:27
yeniklasorok checking10:27
waylandbillstephen: you probably could find an equivelant linux app though.10:28
stephenyea10:28
stephenlinux is great10:28
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stephenjust hard to get used to10:28
yeniklasoresound-common is installed already10:29
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yeniklasorstephen : Use kdetv , but I couldn't find any channel from of these tvtuner apps. There was no my country's scan option.10:30
stephenwwot10:31
stephenwoot10:31
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stepheni installed it without help10:31
stephenlol10:31
stephen1st time10:32
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waylandbillyeniklasor: must be supplied by a different package.10:32
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yeniklasorstephen what did you do :D10:32
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yeniklasorwaylandbill | I'm installing now all enlightened sound daemon packages :D10:33
stephensudo apt-get install kdetv10:33
grul!openal10:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about openal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:33
yeniklasorgood :D10:33
stephenbut i cant get the app to run10:34
stephenlol10:34
stephenit has errors10:34
yeniklasor:S10:34
stephenhow do i uninstall apps?10:35
yeniklasorsudo apt-get remove kdetv10:35
stephensudo apt-get uninstall kdetv?10:35
yeniklasorwhich errors?10:35
stephenoh10:35
stephenremove10:35
yeniklasoryea10:35
t_mausapt-get remove kdetc10:35
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stephenVBI initialisation failed10:35
yeniklasorwait10:36
yeniklasorlaunch adept-manager10:37
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yeniklasorsearch for vbi and install what you found :D10:37
yeniklasoradept_manager10:38
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stepheni cant be bothered lol10:40
stepheni searched for it10:40
stepheninstalled some  stuff10:40
stephenand it still dun work10:40
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yeniklasorwhat is error again?10:41
yeniklasorwhere are you from10:41
stephenim from loondon10:42
stephenlondon^10:42
stephenooooooooooops10:42
yeniklasorwhy10:43
stepheni think i have it running10:43
stephenbut i see no channels10:43
yeniklasorgood10:43
yeniklasorme too :D10:43
yeniklasorbut you can you are from England10:43
stephenok10:43
stephenhow?10:43
stephenlol10:44
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yeniklasorjust scan channels :D A few noob it10:44
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stepheni dont see scan channels10:44
yeniklasorchannels--> channel wisart10:45
stephenits greyed  out10:45
stephenso i cant select it10:45
yeniklasoromg :D10:46
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yeniklasorremove it kdetv sucks10:46
yeniklasortry xawtv10:47
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ausomeHas anyone successfully installed a wireless network card - had it working only to have it "Dissappear" on a new Power Up10:49
ausomeas in - it's not sticking10:49
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Loetmichel_CNCmoin!10:50
stepheni couldnt get my wifi card to work10:52
stephenso i just used ethernet :D10:52
ausomeWell I did get it going - I followed the destructions on someones page and it fired up - I'm missing something that'll make it see it again - I'm trying a few things now10:53
Loetmichel_CNChmmm... ist there a german channel for kubuntu? (installed it fresh, no idea where to get a channellist in konversation..)10:54
pag!de | Loetmichel_CNC10:54
ubotuLoetmichel_CNC: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de10:54
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Loetmichel_CNCpag: thx10:56
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aznpridechineseanyone know how to get world of warcraft running with wine?10:58
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pag!wow | aznpridechinese11:00
ubotuaznpridechinese: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org11:00
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paghmm... there *was* WoW-specific site..11:00
netyirehello all! can somebody help me with deluge torrent :D?11:01
netyireit downloads fast, but sticks at 99.xx%11:01
netyireany ideas?11:01
pagaznpridechinese, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft11:01
pagnetyire, probably just not-working torrent. Those problems usually aren't depended on client you use11:02
netyire:D, its from a private tracker quite well seeded11:02
netyiredeluge seems to be the problem though11:03
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netyiresome people on the deluge forums report the same thing or something similar if I'm not wrong... :( oh well11:03
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netyireokay then back to ktorrent :D11:07
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netyirethanks for the help!11:07
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LopinI'm having a bit of trouble with ndiswrapper...  Anyone up to helping me?11:07
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Naradahi all; my hard drive is full; how can i tell what is taking up all the space; how can i purge all  of apt-get's files?11:08
Lopingoogle jgoodies...  They have a multiplatform disk mapper...11:09
LopinIt'll show you what's taking up space, and how much...11:09
LopinLike, in a piegraph...11:09
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eagles0513875Narada: do sudo apt-get autoclean11:15
eagles0513875Narada: that will clean up any unused or no longer need archives that r left after install11:16
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LopinAnyone know anything about ndiswrapper?11:16
Naradaeagles0513875: done but still full; what commands can i use to find out what is taking up all the space?11:17
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TimsenNarada: you can install filelight this is a nice graphical tool11:20
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wepihahey anyone know how I edit my network settings to enable a network bridge (br0) instead of vanilla eth0?11:20
NaradaTimsen: trying now11:21
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_4str1or change the view mode in konqueror11:21
LopinCan anyone help me with my wifi?11:22
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chaotichey is  it  wise to remove  python  if its broken  to reinstall11:23
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NaradaTimsen: thanks that helped a lot11:27
Timsennp Narada11:28
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LopinAnyone know about wifi?11:29
Timsen!wifi11:31
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs11:31
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LopinLooked...  I can't figure out how to use ndiswrapper, I'm new, I need help...11:31
ausomeLopin - there are lots of helpful info on the ubuntu forums11:32
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LopinI hear you...11:33
LopinI'm just not able to use the scripts and such...11:33
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LopinI'm still too new to linux...11:33
LopinI don't understand what the heck I'm typing in the event something goes wrong, and I can't get it working...11:34
ausomeLopin - I hear that too - it's a good way to get your feet wet - most of those postings have LOTS of new commands to play with11:34
ausomeLopin - Just remember - Never give up :)11:34
ausomeLopin - My sons PC has had his wireless network card running - but it's not being remembered. Just working out how to mkae it stick11:35
LopinIt's 535 in the morning...  I've been up for a day and a half working on this so I think I'm just gonna take a nap, and call linksys in the morning...  Er...  Afternoon...11:36
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ausomeLopin - do a lspci in a command screen - that'll show you what your network card is - then chase it from there11:37
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LopinProblems with the driver...  It's installing, but not recognizing the card...11:37
LopinAm I doing something wrong?11:37
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LopinI have to use ndiswrapper...  And I can't figure out why my driver isn't working...11:38
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HackSigni want download a file with fire .what plugin should i download ?11:44
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HackSigner.. a flv file11:45
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HackSignanybody here ?11:47
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LynoureHackSign: yes.11:48
LynoureHackSign: no idea what 'fire' is in this context.11:49
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eagles0513875anyone fmailiar with xine11:49
eagles0513875HackSign: google what programs can play fire11:49
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HackSignok any way thanxs11:51
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eagles0513875anyone know much about xine and debugging it11:54
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aruni dont know if this is offtopic, but how easy would it be to convert my pc into a public facing server11:57
eagles0513875?11:57
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krautmoin12:07
danyahello :) .. I'm trying to install wine but I keep getting the error that there's no installation candidate .. and all repo are enabled ..12:07
pagdanya, enable wine's own repo12:08
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pagdanya, although it *should* work from default ones too12:09
danyapag : how to enable wine's own repo ?12:09
pagdanya, are you using 64-bit?12:09
danyapag : yes12:09
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pagooh... I'm not even sure if Wine runs on 64bit...12:10
danyapag : ( god every problem I'm facing on ubuntu is because I'm using a 64-bit !12:10
pagdanya, http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb here are some instructions..12:10
danyaI can't even work flash player !12:11
pagdanya, yup... 64bit can be problematic12:11
pag!flash64 | danya12:11
ubotudanya: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava12:11
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danyapag : thanks ..12:12
afd_ I'm trying to install ubuntu feisty on a ext3 partition on which I have a /home folder which I don't want erased. I can't do this because when I try to configure the partition as / (root) the installer tells me that it needs to format the partition. are there any options to force the install not to format the partition?12:12
pagdanya, you could also try Gnash, I've heard it works pretty well.. you'll need version 0.8.x though12:12
danyapag : I tried gnash ..also having problems with it lol12:12
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danyapag : I know this might be a lame Q .. but if I'm using a gnome desktop and when start up I get the kubuntu logo .. that means I'm using Kubuntu  ?12:13
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Naradawhat's the default apache web root on kubuntu by default12:13
zorglu_q. i would like to change the mimetype handling in kde, where should i look ? like to play this kind of movie, launch this player and not this one12:13
pagdanya, startup logo = the one with progress bar right after the boot?12:14
danyapag : yes12:14
zorglu_Narada: out of the blue, it seems /var/www/apache2-default/12:14
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pagdanya, it only means that you have configured (usually done automatically) it that way... if you want I can look up the command that can change it back to Ubuntu's12:15
pagzorglu_, kcontrol -> KDE Components -> File Associations12:16
danyapag : I don't mind kubuntu .. I get to choose to use kde or gnome I like that .. I'm just asking if this means I'm on kubunu even if I'm on a gnome desktop look ..12:16
zorglu_pag: thankslooking12:16
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pagdanya, all *buntus have the same base, the only differences are DEs and default apps12:17
danyapag : so whenever I install something and says ( for kubuntu or ubuntu ) my choice wont effect the installation ?12:18
pagdanya, hmm.. what do you mean? usually thos differences are in the way the programms are configured to ie. Autostart12:19
danyapag : I got it :) .. thanks :) .. I'm doing the steps to install wine if I have any problems I'll get back here :)12:20
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pvandewyngaerdewhat's the default mail client in kubuntu ?12:21
pagpvandewyngaerde, kmail12:21
pvandewyngaerdehow do i start it ?12:22
danyapag : I still get the same error :(12:22
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pagpvandewyngaerde, alt+f2 and type: kmail12:22
pagpvandewyngaerde, or just open Kontact from the menus12:22
zorglu_pag: hmm isnt there another 'database' which overwrite the one shown in kcontrol ? or do i have to reboot/relog ? i did put the apps,smplayer, i want at the highest order of preference, but still kaffeine is launch when i click on the file12:22
pagdanya, did you read the instructions for 64-bit users?12:23
pvandewyngaerdepag i dont see it12:23
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zorglu_pag: and quitting/relaunch kcontrol do show the modified database, so it clearly has been saved12:23
danyapag : yes12:23
pagdanya, http://wiki.winehq.org/UbuntuAMD64 <- those instructions12:23
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pagzorglu_, I never tried myself.. so I'm not quite sure12:24
pagpvandewyngaerde, you don't see what?12:24
zorglu_pag: ok i will try reboot12:24
danyapag : If I'm on feisty does that mean I'm running on a new 64-bit ?12:24
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pagdanya, hmm? all *buntu releases are offered in both 32 and 64bit versions..12:25
stdinpvandewyngaerde: KMenu -> Office -> Kontact12:26
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danyapag : .. the last link u gave me said that If I'm on feisty I don't have to do those steps since I'm not in an older version12:26
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pagdanya, hmm.. have you already tried adding wine's repos and trying to install from there?12:29
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danyapag : hold on I just checked the source list after entering the commands and I didnt find them ..12:30
pagdanya, iirc wine doesn't add the to sources.list, but somewhere else in /etc/apt/12:30
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danyapag : lol ok12:31
aruni have installed LAMP on my PC.. i can test php files locally. what would i have to do to make it a public server?12:32
stdinin /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ probably12:32
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zorglu_pag: my bad, the update worked immediatly, it was me changing video/avi instead of video/x-msvideo12:33
pagzorglu_, ok. :)12:33
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stdinarun: make apache listen to your public address12:34
arunstdin: is there any proper guide for doing this? sorry for the trouble12:34
stdin!LAMP12:34
stdin...waits...12:34
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)12:35
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stdinarun: that's the guide12:35
arunthanks stdin.. really appreciate it12:35
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stdin:)12:35
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starterhello friends, please PLEASE tell me how to re-enable the file menu in Kopete (I disabled it by accident)12:49
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stdinstarter: Ctrl-M ?12:50
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starterstdin: THANK YOU :)12:51
stdinno problem12:51
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Naradahow can i set /tmp default permissions12:57
Naradait says root      30 2007-02-14 10:09 vmlinuz -> boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-11-generic12:57
Naradasorry i mean: drwxrwxrwt (what is the 't' in this)12:58
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stdin!permissions12:58
ubotuThe files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux12:58
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stdinNarada: and that is the default permissions for /tmp12:59
Naradastdin: i know i am trying to create a second directory with same permissions as tmp so i need to know how to recreate it12:59
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Naradanever mind it is just 777 and sticky i guess01:01
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stdinNarada: ahh, you can do something like "chmod u=rwx,g=rwx,o=rwxt dir"01:02
stdinNarada: there is a number for it, it'll be like 1777, but I'm not sure what it is01:02
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Naradastdin: yeah i jsut did chmod 777 and then chmod +t01:07
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Naradastdin: hmm i wonder what channel i should ask about the number :)01:07
Mark17hello is there a good vnc viewer available on kubuntu 7.04?01:07
wepiha!info krdc | Mark1701:08
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ubotumark17: krdc: Remote Desktop Connection for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu9 (feisty), package size 503 kB, installed size 972 kB01:09
stdinNarada: it may have it on wikipedia01:10
Mark17with that programm i can connect to an external vnc server?01:10
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Naradadoes the server install of kubuntu have a graphical or a console install?01:11
stdinNarada: server install doesn't install a gui01:12
stdinNarada: and if you mean the actual install disk, that's text mode too01:13
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Mark17wepiha: i can't find how i can start using it with an allready installed vnc server01:16
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wepihaMark17: krdc should work on any rdp or vnc server you can access over the inter or intranet01:18
Mark17wepiha: i can't find a way to connect to the vnc server01:18
wepihatry vnc:/192.168.0.10:101:18
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wepihaor something that matches your IP address or fqdn01:19
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Mark17ok01:19
Mark17thank you, it works01:20
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wepihaanytime01:21
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yeniklasorHow can I install to firefox, adobe reader addon?01:41
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pagyeniklasor, either acroread-plugins  or mozilla-acroread  I'm not quite sure which01:42
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yeniklasorE: Couldn't find package acroread-plugins01:42
yeniklasoreither of them gives same01:43
yeniklasor Couldn't find package01:43
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pagyeniklasor, they're probably in Canonicals Commercial repos01:43
pagyeniklasor, deb http://archive.canonical.com feisty-commercial main01:43
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yeniklasorok01:44
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alx_hi01:45
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stephenwhat does no outside nmessgaes meaqn?01:45
pagyeniklasor, or medibuntu...01:45
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pagstephen, that you cannot send messages to chan, if you're not joined to it01:46
stephenwth how would you do that?01:46
assairoa little cuestion; i have upgraded my kubuntu and linux kernel too, and now when grub is launched i have two kubuntu's with both linux kernel( the old and the upgraded)01:46
yeniklasornot working01:46
yeniklasordeb http://archive.medubuntu.com feisty-commercial main ?01:46
assairothere's any problem having both kernels?01:46
pagstephen, never tried.. and most channels have the protection for those. ie. /say #channel something  might work...01:47
stephenhow do you update tghe kernals?01:47
titanix88hello!!01:47
pagassairo, 'both'?01:47
yeniklasorpag | Can't I download it as a deb ?01:47
stephen#kubuntu lol01:47
assairoyes, at the grub now i have 2 kubuntus01:47
pagyeniklasor, it might be in medibuntu01:48
pag!medibuntu | yeniklasor01:48
ubotuyeniklasor: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org01:48
assairoone with the old kernel (2.63.11?) and the upgraded (2.63.18?)01:48
stephenhow did you update your kernal?01:48
pagassairo, oh... that's how it should be with default settings. so no worries :)01:48
assairostephen: with update manager i upgrade to kubuntu 7.0401:49
stephenoh01:49
assairopag:  ok, thx :)01:49
stepheni did already ^^01:49
pagstephen, or meybe /msg #channel  instead of /say.. as I said; never tried01:49
stephenhmmm01:49
stepheni think thats right01:49
yeniklasorpag | Thank you a lot01:49
pagnp.01:49
stephenlet me try it on my ds01:49
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stephenand its not from outside cos im joined already ^^01:50
stephenhmmm how do i install .deb files on kubuntu?01:51
stephen!deb01:51
ubotudeb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)01:51
stephenhmmm01:51
stephensolution :)01:51
stephenone problem :( i dont see install01:52
stephenoops01:52
stephenfound it01:52
stephenwow linux is so simple01:52
stephenwhen you get used to it01:53
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stevo111omg01:58
stevo111so many ppl01:58
pagstevo111, #ubuntu has even more.01:59
DragnslcrIn here?01:59
Dragnslcr~350 isn't that large of an IRC channel02:00
Dragnslcr#ubuntu has over 100002:00
stephen:O02:00
stephendoes anyone know about tinyXP?02:00
stephencan you dual boot?02:01
stephento that02:01
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DragnslcrMost IRC channels for anything relatively popular have 300-500 users02:01
meuhlolplop all02:01
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meuhlol!beer stephen02:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about beer stephen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:02
meuhlolxD02:02
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stephen!your mum stephen02:02
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meuhlolsomeone knows how to became a Domain Name extension property? Sounds like: I want create .kaka extension and have my website adress like www.mysite.kaka who I have to contact?02:03
stephendammit02:03
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stephenwhats jfgi?02:03
pag!jfgi | stephen02:04
ubotustephen: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.02:04
stepheni know02:04
meuhlolcus after that i will be happy to transform my second PC to an server station (what i have bough for gaming with watercooling etc, but now i don't play xD)02:04
Dragnslcrmeuhlol- um, ICANN doesn't create new top-level domains just because someone (with less than $100 million) asks them02:04
pagstephen, it stands for "Just f****** Google it"02:05
meuhlolrofl Dragnslcr, i know... i have read them yesterday02:05
DragnslcrSo what exactly is your question then?02:06
meuhlolDragnslcr: but maybe an another company do that?02:06
DragnslcrHuh?02:06
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DragnslcrICANN is the only organization that creates top-level domains02:06
titanix88any diggers here??02:06
stephenO_o02:07
titanix88stephen: ._O02:07
meuhlolDragnslcr: or maybe there are is an "unofficial" way to do that? Cus really, I don't want to pay "third party services" to have my domain and after "gestionning" a subdomains for my friends... just want to have my proper domain extension and offer my services... however I don't have 100m $...02:07
DragnslcrI'm sure you can put any TLD you want in your DNS server's configuration, but nobody that serves more than 10 users would bother02:07
DragnslcrYou can register domain names for $10/year'02:08
DragnslcrProbably cheaper if you shop around a bit02:08
meuhlolDragnslcr: so if for exemple i will install bind (dns server) and make like www.mysite.lol it will work? no, really?02:08
DragnslcrFor anyone using your server as their DNS server, sure02:09
DragnslcrBut only an idiot would use someone else's home computer as their DNS server02:09
meuhlolahahahaha02:09
meuhlolsounds like an "home network" ahahahaha02:09
DragnslcrAnd only people using your DNS server could resolve that domain name02:09
meuhlolbut with that i don't want to transform my ISP to public ISP lol02:09
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titanix88why everyone have to register to a american org for a domain???02:10
stephen!tar.gz02:10
ubotuFiles with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression02:11
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freemasonhello I need help02:11
pag!ask | freemason02:11
ubotufreemason: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)02:11
titanix88ark is something as stupid as anyone can imagine02:11
Dragnslcrtitanix88- only if it's a domain that only American companies are registrars for02:11
titanix88pag acing like some irc cop.02:12
DragnslcrEvery country has their own top-level domain that they administrate themselves02:12
freemasonI am running ubuntu and want to install acrobat reader, I tried to write sudo apt-get install acroread but it didn't work02:12
pag!medibuntu | freemason02:12
freemasonubuntu7.0402:12
ubotufreemason: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org02:12
pagtitanix88, pardon?02:12
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meuhlolfreemason: KPDF02:12
freemasonbut the version ago it worked02:12
freemasonI mean 6.1002:13
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meuhlolfreemason: acrobat reader of adobe is only for windows02:13
meuhloli think*02:13
Hobbseemeuhlol: it's on linux, too.02:13
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freemasonthey do it for linux too02:13
Hobbseemeuhlol: however, it's not in the repositories - you'll have to get it off the adobe site02:13
DragnslcrWhy you'd want to use it on either system, though02:13
pagmeuhlol, there's version in medibuntu / Canonical Commercial  not sure which02:13
DragnslcrI don't even use Acrobat on Windows02:13
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freemasonok I use it because I am used to it02:14
titanix88if someone asks help u(i know it should be you) should help him/her.Not redirect to ubotu.02:14
stephenwhats a good game for linux02:14
stephen?02:14
freemasonI don't play games02:14
freemason:-)02:14
stepheni played monopoly and won 350002:14
stephen:)02:15
titanix88stephan: nexuiz, xmoto02:15
freemasonhttp://www.ubuntugeek.com/tag/acrobat-reader-feisty/02:15
stephen!xmoto02:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xmoto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:15
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freemasonok thanks02:15
meuhlolstephen: what type of game you want? if an FPS -> Open Arena is great! Based on QuakeIII engine :)02:16
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stephenoooh02:16
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titanix88meuhlol why not nexuiz??02:16
meuhlolstephen: if an game like "Worms Armagedon" you have "Wormux"02:16
freemasonwell I will give it a try02:16
Hobbseepag: medibuntu that will be - the commercial repo doesnt have things that are illegal to host.02:16
titanix88meuhlol i bet nexuiz is far better than open arena.02:16
pagtitanix88, prsonally I don't see any reason, why should I type something, that has already been added to ubotu.. Bot's here, so we can use it ;) If you have something to add, then please, let's move this discussion to -offtopic, since it doesn't belong here02:17
stephendo alot of players play open arena and wormux?02:17
Hobbseeunless they have na agreement, which i dont think they would02:17
meuhloltitanix88: nice one too, but i prefer OpenArena playing online! Really hardcore gaming sometimes, and try to be 1st or 2nd at match finals :p02:17
pagHobbsee, ok :)02:17
Hobbsee[22:14]  <titanix88> if someone asks help u(i know it should be you) should help him/her.Not redirect to ubotu.02:17
Hobbseetitanix88: please, the bot is there for a reason.  most of the time, you could have got an answer by searching in the first place02:18
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stephenubotu is helpful02:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is helpful - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:18
stepheni got an aswer just by typing !deb02:18
pag!botsnack02:18
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!02:18
meuhlolstephen: for games like "Heroes 3" with "step by step" you have Wesnoth... for strategy with magic you have "Glest", for racing... ouf... many games are available :) many portals too...02:18
stephenomg02:18
stephenglest was good02:19
titanix88pag<->hobsee<->titanix88<->ubotu.....??!!!!??/02:19
Hobbsee!autocomplete | titanix8802:19
ubotutitanix88: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.02:19
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titanix88Hobbsee: thnx :))02:20
dpsCan anyone please tell me how to put java on konqueror?02:20
stepheni just recently got ecsma on my elbow lol02:20
Hobbseetitanix88: no problem02:20
dpsI have it on firefox02:20
dpsbut i can't install in onKonqueror02:20
tmskeHi, I'm looking for a music player that can easly handle 20000 songs02:20
dpsI install sunjava6-bin and jre and plugin02:20
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titanix88tmske: amarok02:21
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stephen20000???????? :O02:21
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tmsketitanix88: amarok doesn't work any more for some reason, it crashes on startup02:22
stephentry updating or removing and reinstalling02:22
pagdps, you might need konqueror-nsplugins02:22
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titanix88tmske: Are u the modern blackBeard or bought everyone of them?02:23
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tmskestephen: have tried a lot (deleting config and database files, different user..) but removing amarok will also remove kubuntu-desktop02:23
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tmsketitanix88: I own most of the songs, but not all of them02:24
titanix88tmske: kubuntu-desktop is nothing but a meta package.remove it.02:24
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tmsketitanix88: ok, will try to remove amarok and put it back then02:25
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juani've installed firestarter to configure my iptables, but everytime i reboot my iptables rules are empty again02:26
juanhow can i save the iptables rules so that when i reboot into ubuntu they're there02:27
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tmsketitanix88: that doens't work either, it starts till it shows the screen and then crashes without any useful debug info02:27
esa-petriIs there any hope to get paltalk working on linuxs (I dont like thease wind*ws only programs)02:28
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titanix88tmske: did u completely removed it(including configurations)?02:29
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tmskeyou mean delete amarokrc and remove the amarok folder under .kde/share/...02:29
titanix88tmske: if u want dibug info, start from cli.02:29
tmsketitanix88: doens't show anything useful02:30
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titanix88tmske: try remove all configurations as u mentioned.02:30
tmskeI'll try that02:31
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tmsketitanix88: it still crashes02:32
MaTiAzAnyone have any recommendations for a WLAN card which works fine in Linux?02:32
titanix88tmske: since when it started to crash?02:33
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tmsketitanix88: I have no idea what I changed when it started to crash, I didn't think I updated anything necessary for amarok02:34
titanix88tmske: 7.04?02:35
tmskeyes and amarok 1.4.602:35
titanix88i saw a new version in the backport.try it.02:35
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pagtitanix88, hmm? 1.4.6 is newest stable02:36
stephenwhere can a get deb apps?02:36
erik_Guys, I need your help. I installed Timidity on my Ubuntu Feisty and frequently have error messages.02:37
stephen!screen02:37
pagstephen, getdeb.org iirc.  and of cource repos :)02:37
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stephen!resolution02:37
ubotuscreen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen02:37
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:37
tmsketitanix88: it's the on from the backport02:38
ERIK_LIMAI need help to configure Timidity02:38
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ERIK_LIMAFrequently I put to play a MIDI file from the game "Shinobi III - Return Of Ninja Master" and I can't listen to all instruments on the music02:39
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pagtmske, I'd suggest you try removing amarok, commenting out backports and trying to install 1.4.5 from official repos. Downgrading isn't really supported, but you could try..02:39
tmskepag: ok, I'll try that02:39
ERIK_LIMAWhen I listen to MIDI in Windows XP it's works fine02:39
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ERIK_LIMAAnyone could help me how to solve my problem with Timidity?02:40
titanix88anyone used compiz fusion? It's beautiful but no window decorator works :(02:40
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ERIK_LIMAI need help to use Timidity! Please!02:41
pagtitanix88, something like compiz --replace might do the trick.. you should also install compiz-kde (or something like that)02:42
titanix88ERIK_LIMA: i think there r thousands of midi players in linux. try something else.02:42
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titanix88pag:i installed compiz-kde,compiz-gnome...even tried with kde-window-decorator --replace but nothing works :(02:43
ERIK_LIMAtitanix, do you know a MIDI Player that is better than Timidity? What you suggest? :/02:43
pagtitanix88, well... kwin --replace  should at least give you your defaul-ones back02:44
ERIK_LIMAI can only play MIDI via software02:44
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pagtitanix88, also, if you have beryl still installed, you can also try emerald --replace02:45
ERIK_LIMATimidity works on my Ubuntu, but I always receive an output message like "No instrument mapped. This instrument will not be heard"02:45
sedirubuntubrasil-orkut02:45
sedirops02:45
ERIK_LIMAAnd I can't listen to all instruments in this file taken fro vgmusic.com --> InnerDarkside.mid02:45
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meuhlolsomeone use usenet there?02:46
titanix88pag: nice idea. btw why compiz fusion does not have the idea of diff window decorator like beryl??02:46
pagtitanix88, I don't know, I don't even use any of 3d accelerated desktops.02:46
ERIK_LIMAYes! It's a music from the Sega Genesis game "Shinobi III". When I play this file on Windows XP, it's plays well.02:47
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meuhlolERIK_LIMA: what is file format you want to play correctly at nux?02:47
ERIK_LIMAMIDI02:47
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meuhlolERIK_LIMA: try timidity++ ;) i use that to play midi files, it's sounds good!02:48
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titanix88ERIK_LIMA: try something from add/remove programs audio section..02:48
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ERIK_LIMAmeuhlol, well.... right now I'm running a script to download and install it. Let me see if Timidity++ works...02:49
nuxilis there any other docker which is better than kooldock ? one with true transparent ?02:49
tmskepag: it still crashes the same way02:49
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tmskepag: maybe it's because of xine, can I chose a different engine?02:50
titanix88tmske: if i were u i would reinstall my ubuntu just for amarok...REALLY!02:50
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tmsketitanix88: perhaps I will but I don't have the time right now, so if I could get it working, that would be better02:51
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tmsketag, titanix88: if I run amarok as a different user, it doens't crash, it just doesn't respond any more02:53
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ERIK_LIMAAnyone know a good repository to download Tiidity++ via apt-get??02:54
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ERIK_LIMAops! It's Timidity++02:54
Naradahi all do you have an official link on how to upgrade from edgy to feisty02:55
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titanix88Narada: just click on the update manager and select update!!!i guess!!!02:57
Naradahehe :)02:57
vit_hola02:58
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nuxilhttp://www.urbanpuddle.com/articles/2007/05/23/upgrade-from-ubuntu-dapper-or-edgy-to-feisty-fawn02:58
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tmsketag, titanix88: I can run amarok as root, so maybe my user isn't a member of the correct group, to wich groups should I belong for amarok?03:00
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titanix88tmske: the"admin"03:01
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titanix88tmske: just a guess.03:01
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tmsketitanix88: I'm a member of it03:01
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nuxiltmske, have you tried removing you ~/.kde dir ?03:01
tmskenuxil, I don't think that will change anything, I made a new user and it doens't work for that user with a completly fresh .kde03:02
nuxiltmske, audio is the group your user need to be in03:03
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nuxiltmske, grep audio /etc/group03:03
tmskenuxil: also member of that group, so maybe it's something else03:03
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nuxiltmske, what errors do you get?+++03:04
tmskenuxil: my groups:  adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev netdev lpadmin powerdev scanner fuse admin03:04
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tmskenuxil: No errors, some warnings: like KAccel object already contains an action name "play_pause"03:05
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nuxiltmske, i guess you are using xine engine for amarok?03:05
tmskenuxil: yes, can I use a different one on kubuntu?03:06
nuxiltry apt-get install amarok-engines03:06
meuhlolnuxil: for what is 'amarok-engines?03:07
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tmskenuxil: have installed those, but how do I load amarok with a different engine?03:07
titanix88guys try this interesting article: http://scitech.teambio.org/2007/07/14/windows-guy-tries-ubuntu-704/03:07
nuxiltmske install gstreamer for example03:07
bentob0xwhat's a good image viewer for KDE?03:08
titanix88nuxil:i would like gsteamer too, but is it available?03:08
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rjuneI have a standard 104 key US keyboard. When I try to login, GDM works fine. but after I login, the system treats my keyboard differently. hitting the 's' key produces a 'b', hitting the 't' key produces an 'n' Has anybody seen this behaviour before? fresh install of ubuntu03:08
daftmanhi, can someone show me how to retrieve video properties from a video file using the command line?03:09
rjunedaftman: which properties do you want?03:09
nuxiltitanix88, tmske https://wiki.kubuntu.org/GstreamerAudioBackend?highlight=%28gstreamer%2903:09
daftmanbitrate03:09
daftmanheightxwidth03:09
titanix88rjune: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:09
rjunedaftman: try file.03:09
daftmanand audio sample rate03:09
daftmanoh03:09
rjunetitanix88: does that assume an X problem?03:10
daftmanwhat is file?03:10
rjunedaftman: it may not be what you want though.03:10
rjuneit's a program to tell you a bit about a given file.03:10
rjunefile <FILENAME>03:10
tmskenuxil: gstreamer0.10?03:10
rjuneman file will tell you more.03:10
rjuneif that's not what you want, I've got a script somewhere.03:10
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daftmanyea it doesn't help j03:10
nuxilhey you could always compile amarok from source :p enable alot of stuff there03:10
titanix88rjune: it is a problem of xkeyboard.03:10
daftmanI can use ffmpeg03:11
titanix88or whatever they say it.03:11
daftmanbut it only spit out those info on error03:11
daftmanwhich is kinda stupid03:11
nuxiltmske, yes i think that one will work..03:11
titanix88rjune: there is definitly a option of selecting keybard types when u try that command.03:12
nuxiltmske, but have you tried installing xine extra codecs ?03:12
justin6891:p03:12
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daftmani'm trying to convert flv file to mpg or avi03:12
tmskenuxil: libxine-extracodecs? yes03:12
nuxilok03:12
daftmanbut i want to maintain the bitrate and size03:13
tmskenuxil: if I have gstreamer installed, will amarok use it automaticly or do I have to tell amarok (and how can I do that?)03:14
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nuxiltmske, you have to tell amarok to use it03:14
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tmskeamarok --engine gstreamer03:15
nuxilin settings or amarok -engine something like that03:15
nuxilyes03:15
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rjunedaftman: http://home.bravegnuworld.com/~rjune/midentify.txt03:15
tmskenuxil: still crashes, and I'm positive it uses gstreamer as engine, because it show in the debug mail03:16
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rjunetitanix88: no luck.03:16
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nuxiltmske, i think you should move on to #amarok you got something strange there03:17
titanix88rjune: restarted X?03:17
rjuneyup03:17
nuxiltmske are you sure its not just complaining about no mp3 support ?03:17
rjuneinstead of 'qwerty', I get 'c.gvn '03:18
tmskenuxil: it doens't say anything about mp3, and it doesn't have anything in the collection nor playlist03:18
titanix88rjune: maybe u r using dvrok keybard layout instead of qwerty03:18
rjuneit's a fresh install.03:18
rjuneand the keyboard works fine at the login prompt.03:19
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rjunethat's the goofy bit.03:19
titanix88rjune: look at ur keyboard layout.03:19
tmskenuxil: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30099/ (terminal output)03:19
rjunein the control panel? or in xorg.conf?03:20
nuxiltmske, try this and see if it help... go to kcontrol --> sound & multimedia --> sound system  and disable it03:20
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titanix88rjune: in the control panel.03:20
nuxiltmske, it looks like it cant open you soundcard03:21
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nuxiltmske, lsof /dev/snd/timer03:22
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nuxiland lsof /dev/snd/controlC003:22
titanix88rjune: ??03:22
tmskenuxil: timer -> empy03:23
rjunedon't see keyboard layout in the control panel03:23
nuxilok03:23
nuxilthe other one ?03:23
tmskenuxil: controlC0: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30102/ (at the bottom)03:24
titanix88rjune: 'regional &...'03:24
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nuxilaha03:24
tmskenuxil: I have amarok running as root03:24
nuxilamarok runs as root yes03:24
nuxilwhy?03:24
nuxilsudo killall amarokapp03:24
tmskeI tried it to see if that worked03:24
rjuneUS English03:24
nuxilthen start it as a user03:24
tmskenuxil: crashes03:25
titanix88rjune: look beneath to see some variations(like dvrok)03:25
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sahey everyone03:25
nuxiltmske, try to remove it.. and then reinstall it.. using adept03:25
saanybody familiar with dc_gui or valknut?03:25
nuxilbut clear your cache first03:26
titanix88tmske: did u try anyother audio app?i guess they will crash too.03:26
tmskenuxil: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30104/ (mail debug info)03:26
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tmsketitanix88: mplayer works, vlc works, xine works03:27
jgosstmske, have you tried mving  temporarily .kde/share/amarok/ and .kde/share/config/amarokrc to see if it works?03:27
tmskejgoss: yes, doesn't work03:27
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titanix88tmske: guessed wrong!!!:)03:27
nuxiltmske, did you try to reinstall it?03:28
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nuxiltmske, redownloade it i mean..03:28
nuxilby clearing it from your cache03:28
saanybody familiar with dc_gui or valknut?03:28
tmskenuxil: I have with apt-get, I even downgraded it from 1.4.6, to 1.4.5 (this was a redownload)03:28
titanix88rjune: any luck?03:28
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mm260865hi ppl:-)03:29
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nuxiltmske, it doesnt redownloade if its the same version online that you got in your cache,03:29
mm260865how to enable compiz?03:29
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rjunetitanix88: no03:29
SlimeyPete!compiz | mm26086503:29
ubotumm260865: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects03:29
rjunetitanix88: thanks though. This is a goofy problem.03:30
tmskenuxil: I know, but it redownloaded 1.4.5, so this was a fresh install and it just crashed the same way03:30
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titanix88rjune: np.03:30
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tmskenuxil: it strange that it crashes for my user, for a new user, it doesn't crash but just hangs (maybe because kde is running as my user)03:31
saanybody familiar with dc_gui or valknut?03:31
nuxiltmske, strange,,03:31
tmskenuxil: yeah, I know03:31
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ksivajiis there any command to see packages that i have installed  so far03:31
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mileshello?03:32
nuxiltmske, did you try to make a tmp user and login with that user ?03:32
jgossksivaji, dpkg -l might help you03:32
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icecruncherksivaji: dpkg -l03:32
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ksivajijgoss ok03:32
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tmskeI'll try that, can I start a second x?03:32
miles!subversion03:32
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ubotusubversion is an open source application used for revision control. It is sometimes abbreviated to svn in reference to the name of its command line interface. Look here for a Subversion How To on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion03:32
tmskenuxil: never mind, trying to log in as a different user and see what this gives03:33
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nuxilyes do that03:33
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ksivajiicecruncher jgoss ho i get too many packages is there any command to fine unused or useless package ?03:35
ksivajifine*03:35
ksivajifind*03:35
ggarlic*haha03:35
tmskenuxil: it also hangs, doesn't crash (maybe because kmail isn't configured?)03:35
mm260865anyone with a greek GUI knows how to enable desktop effects?03:36
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saanybody familiar with dc_gui or valknut?03:36
milesno03:36
milesSysinfo for 'mac': Linux 2.6.20-15-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: Intel(R)Core2CPUT5200@1.60GHz at 800 MHz (3193 bogomips), , RAM: 702/1002MB, 128 proc's, 9.38min up03:36
mileshas anyone successfuly installed subversion on kubuntu?03:37
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tmskenuxil: I got to go, thank you very much, and I'll look further for a solution03:37
nuxiltmske, naah.. kmail is just for sending error reports03:37
ksivajiturning on and turning off pc frequently  will reduce its life time is it so?03:37
nuxilok cya03:37
Lynoureksivaji: yes, same goes for any electronics03:38
ksivajiho thank you Lynoure03:39
ksivajiok friend meet you later bye03:39
milesso you guys hate subversion or not?03:39
Lynoureksivaji: I would not worry about turning off a pc twice a day or so03:39
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Lynouremiles: What a loaded question... No, I don't.03:40
mileshaha03:40
milessorry03:40
milesi have never successfuly installed it03:40
milesim about to try again though03:40
Lynouremiles: the installing on ubuntu is simple...03:41
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Lynouremiles: sudo aptitude install subversion03:41
mm260865how to enable compiz in kubuntu?03:42
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Lynouremiles: if it finishes without errors, you have successfully installed subversion.03:42
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Lynouremiles: if you have any further questions after that, you can ask about them too, or further problems with installing03:44
milesthanks, but i can do that part easy03:45
milesim talking about configuring it03:45
milesi always screw up at that point03:45
milesi need to install openssh on the server, 1 sec03:46
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Lynouremiles: are you moving from other version control system or starting afresh?03:47
stephenhi03:48
stepheni cant get open arena to run03:48
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imslow357did you try double clicking?03:49
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imslow357just unzipp the files and double click worked for me03:50
wersI'm relatively new with linux. I want the best KDE distro that willl let me run synce-kde...synce-kde does not work in feisty.. Do you think debian will be a good distro for me?03:50
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mileslynoure - no i am not03:53
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Lynouremiles: not moving or not starting afresh?03:54
andy_any one in here able to help with synce03:54
andy_brb03:54
Lynouremiles: If not moving, then that's a lot less hassle :)03:54
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milesnot moving03:55
milesno previous vcs03:55
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tmske_nuxil: I'm back if you still have ideas, let them come, now amarok doesn't work as root, it also just hangs03:56
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nuxilheh03:57
milesim about to throw the server out the window, i love it!03:57
nuxilonly idea i have is go to #amarok and consult with them03:57
milesamarok is aight03:57
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tmske_nuxil: yeah, tried it, they didn't have much ideas, but can try it again04:01
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mileswow...finally connected to server04:03
milesthat was a joke04:03
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Naradahi; how long does edgy to feisty take rougly speaking04:04
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stepheni just downloaded the open arena thing04:05
rumbadf04:05
stephenand i click on the exe04:05
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stephenand it dun work04:05
stephensays cant find cfg file04:05
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mileswhat is the command to check disk space on a partition?04:06
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milesi cant think of it right now04:06
SlimeyPetedf -h04:06
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milesthank you slimeypete04:07
SlimeyPetenp04:07
andy_any one know anything about synce04:08
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CapCom[Whisky] hey there.... i have a problem with my soundcard... it don't work.. and google....i find nothing on google:-(  i have a 939dual-vsta Asrock with onboard..and alsa... can't find my hardware...04:11
gesturetry the asrock homepage , usualy you can find there the drivers , on windowns / linux versions04:12
CapCom[Whisky] k.. hmm didn't thought of that04:12
CapCom[Whisky] ^04:12
CapCom[Whisky] ^^ i'll try04:12
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SatanClausheyho! I'm trying to use feisty's kopete with the cryptographic plugin, and I'm able to send encrypted messages, just that I can only read them in encrypted form + I can't read the answers, as they're encrypted as well.04:15
milesis there a subversion irc channel?04:15
saanybody familiar with dc_gui or valknut?04:15
SatanClausi found a bugreport with the same problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/6322104:15
SatanClausand it states, that the problem is solved in the "feisty 3.5.7 packages."04:16
CapCom[Whisky] hmmm lol asrock site is down :-(04:16
SatanClausI searched for a while now, but can't figure out how to install those packages... perhaps someone can give me a hint on what to read?04:17
BluesKajSatanClaus, that would be  KDE 3.5.7 version04:17
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BluesKaj!kde04:17
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.04:17
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SatanClausBluesKaj: thx, will have a look...04:18
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CapCom[Whisky] no sound driver at asrock04:18
BluesKajmiles , yes04:19
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BluesKajCapCom[Whisky] , what soundcard ?04:21
CapCom[Whisky] one from the asrock 939dual-vsta04:21
CapCom[Whisky] i don't  no more04:21
CapCom[Whisky] ;-)04:21
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SatanClausBluesKaj: so that means i'd need the whole kde3.5.7 for the problem with kopete?04:21
SatanClausor is it possible to just update kopete?04:21
CapCom[Whisky] -Media CM6501 7.1 channel audio compliant with UAA architecture04:21
spawn57Capcom, the ac97 driver didn't work for you?04:23
CapCom[Whisky] don't know.......04:23
stephensame for me04:23
BluesKajSatanClaus, yeah I think so , since kopete is part of the kde pkg...you can try to update kopete but it will prolly try to update the whole desktop04:23
CapCom[Whisky] i use the ubuntu feisty.. in the newest version04:23
stephenis ubuntu better than kubuntu?04:23
meuhlolhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30110/ lol04:24
SlimeyPetedepends whether you prefer KDE or Gnome04:24
BluesKajstephen, don't ask that question here ..this is a kubuntu chat :)04:24
meuhlolstephen: huh ubuntu is GNOME based desktop, kubuntu is KDE based... so question of preferences04:24
miles!apache04:25
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)04:25
stephenwhats the difference between kde and knome04:25
stephengnome*04:25
BluesKajerr support chat04:25
mileslaff, what is knome04:25
meuhlolme i prefer KDE for params, and don't like a gnome xD04:25
mileso04:25
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mileslinus hates gnome04:25
SlimeyPetestephen: the look different and the utilities are different04:25
stephenim trrying to get open arena to work on kubuntu but its not working04:25
SlimeyPetethey do essentially the same thing, though04:25
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stephenthe screen flashes black04:25
meuhlolstephen: all works grat for me04:25
stephenand then exits04:25
BluesKajmiles, how do you know that ?04:25
SlimeyPeteif it doesn't work on kubuntu then it probably won't work on ubuntu for you either04:26
stephenlol04:26
CapCom[Whisky] ok note : It does not support my soundcard :-)..... that's what the internet says :-)04:26
stephencould it be my graphics card?04:26
SlimeyPetecould be04:26
SlimeyPeteor your drivers04:26
stepheni have an xradeon 20004:26
stephen:O i updated everything though04:26
meuhlolstephen:04:26
meuhlolmkdir OpenArena04:26
meuhlolcd OpenArena04:26
meuhlolwget http://download.tuxfamily.net/cooker/openarena/rel070/oa070.zip04:26
meuhloltar xvf oa070.tar.gz04:26
meuhlolrm oa070.tar.gz04:26
SlimeyPeteare you using fglrx?04:26
BluesKajstephen, which graphics card do you have ?04:27
stephenATI XRADEON 20004:27
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meuhlolstephen: did you activated 3D Acceleration?04:27
SlimeyPeteor the built-in drivers (these won't do 3D)04:27
stephenno04:27
stepheni dunno how04:27
SlimeyPete!fglrx04:27
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:27
meuhlolstephen: need activate 3D acceleration :)04:27
stephenhow do i activate 3d accel04:27
SlimeyPete^^ follow that guide, stephen04:27
meuhlolSlimeyPete: ahaha xD04:27
SlimeyPeteyou need to install the fglrx drivers.04:27
meuhlolgreat :p04:27
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BluesKajthe X200 ATI card actually needs the modded and patched driver on this site , but the tutorial is a bit involved for ppl new to Linux . http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty04:29
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stephenOpen the restricted drivers manager included in 7.04 "System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager"04:30
stephenthere is no adminstration thing04:31
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meuhlolon kubuntu there are not "restricted module manager" you have to install it manually04:31
AzzcoIs there somewhere that I can get stable nvidia drivers (not nv)?04:31
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ijkthere is the package restricted-manager04:31
stephenso whats the command for that then?04:31
jhutchins!nvidia | Azzco04:32
ubotuAzzco: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:32
gnomefreakAzzco: install nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new04:32
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meuhlolAzzco: what geforce you have?04:32
stephenwhats the command to manually install the restricted module manager?04:32
meuhlolAzzco: but before do an: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.backup in konsole :p04:32
AzzcoI've experienced not being able to get a graphical enviroment lots of times, because of nvidia drivers =/04:33
jhutchinsstephen: sudo apt-get install restricted-manager04:33
stephenthx04:33
meuhlolAzzco: and this04:33
meuhlolsudo aptitude install nvidia-glx04:33
meuhlolsudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)04:33
meuhlolsudo nvidia-xconfig04:33
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meuhlolAzzco: copy/paste is simple xD04:33
mileshey04:34
jhutchinsmeuhlol: Not when you have to reboot.04:34
milesi was in #svn, that irc channel is weak04:34
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meuhlolxD04:34
AzzcoYeah but I'm on a live cd and I'm going to reinstall kubuntu after some distro adventure ;)04:34
stephenwell it said that that package manager is installed :O04:34
meuhloloh okey Azzco, so no problem =)04:34
stephenhow would i enable the 3d manually?04:35
BluesKajno that's for Ubuntu/gnome , stephen , you can do the same thing in adept by opening it and /manage repositories/Kubuntu software and checking all four boxes , then close it and do a sudo apt-get update.04:35
ijkHow come every time I download an archive - say tar.gz - all it's contents is owned by root? it produces a kind of strange error in Ark - but even though that is the case the files gets extracted.04:36
meuhlolstephen: do that04:36
stephenok04:36
stephenthx04:36
AzzcoCAn I install kubuntu with a different kernel than that on disc?04:36
meuhlolin konsole:04:36
BankseyHey guys, Anyone know how to get Gdesklets working, I have everything downloaded, And run I run them I just get a shell program or something :/ Help would be much appricated04:36
meuhlolstephen: sudo apt-get install linux-68604:36
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meuhlolor sudo apt-get install linux-image-k704:36
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TuxOtakuhey, I'm having trouble getting amarok to copy podcasts onto my iPod, the files copy over fine....but they aren't being recognized as podcasts.04:37
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SatanClausBluesKaj: hmm, i can use aptitude to just upgrade kopete, but when trying to start, it states: "kopete: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libkopete.so.1: undefined symbol: _ZN9KLineEdit17mouseReleaseEventEP11QMouseEvent"04:37
meuhlolafter you reboot and at boot press ESCAPE to be in grub menu, after choose new kernel image04:37
meuhlolafter do that sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)04:37
SatanClaussonoftheclayr: how safe is it to upgrade to kde3.5.7 on a production system?04:37
BluesKajsorry SatanClaus, i have no idea :(04:37
stephenok i did that meuhlol04:37
SatanClaussonoftheclayr: sorry, that meant "so"04:37
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meuhlolsudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx fglrx-control libqt3-mt04:38
meuhlolsudo aticonfig --initial04:38
meuhlolsudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv04:38
TuxOtakuany ideas on my problem?04:38
stephenmeuthlol is that for me?04:38
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tmske_nuxil: I have tried mpd but this doesn't play either, it just stays at 0:0004:39
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meuhloland reboot04:39
stephenis that for me?04:39
langdonhi folks04:39
meuhlolstephen: yes04:39
stephenlol04:39
stephenthx04:39
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langdonhow to add more fonts to konsole and where can i download the fonts04:39
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maexdakingmoin04:40
nuxiltmske_, I amm out of ideas.. try remove it compleatly and install it from source04:40
stephenbrb04:40
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milesis there such a thing as ubuntu server edition?04:41
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milesi cant find the download anywhere04:41
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gesturecan anyone link a "how to" for installing a ati video card ?04:42
metro-polisie!info ntfs-3g04:42
nuxil!ati04:42
ubotuntfs-3g: read-write NTFS driver for FUSE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.328-1 (feisty), package size 25 kB, installed size 88 kB04:42
BluesKajSatanClaus, are you trying to set up IM  , AMSN works well04:42
wnuquihi guys04:42
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:42
meuhlol!fgrlx | gesture04:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fgrlx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:42
meuhlolgesture:04:43
meuhlol[16:37]  <meuhlol> sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx fglrx-control libqt3-mt04:43
meuhlol[16:37]  <meuhlol> sudo aticonfig --initial04:43
meuhlol[16:37]  <meuhlol> sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv04:43
Lynouregesture: mine did not really take any installing, worked fine with free drivers04:43
wnuquii am trying to install java but i can't04:43
SatanClausBluesKaj: well, I'm trying to setup kopete with jabber + icq + aim... and for safeties sake I'd like to use encryption whenever the other side supports it ;)04:43
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wnuquiit's not successfull04:43
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stephenright i restarted04:43
meuhlolLynoure: but with free drivers by default you don't have a 3D Acceleration ;)04:43
SatanClauss/safeties/safety's/04:43
meuhlolstephen: try no<04:43
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meuhlolnow*04:43
stephennope04:44
stephenstill the same04:44
Lynouremeuhlol: I think for some cards you do. Not for the newest, though.04:44
meuhlolnot at all04:44
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meuhlol!ati | stephen04:44
ubotustephen: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:44
meuhloljust follow this tutorial so...04:44
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meuhlolstephen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto#head-8055f455b66a39399b91db278f9a12b91a5b123c04:45
BluesKajok, SatanClaus that's somewhat beyond my scope ..it's the 2nd time I've heard that request(about encryption)here in about 6 mos and it may take some time to get an answer04:45
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meuhlolstephen: exactly here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI04:46
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SatanClausBluesKaj: ok, still: thx a lot04:46
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stephen!pasebin04:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pasebin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:47
stephen!pastebin04:47
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:47
meuhlolpastebin.com04:47
meuhlolxD04:47
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stephenhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30114/04:48
BankseyAnyone help me out with Gdesklets?04:48
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micman!sourceomatic04:48
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic04:48
stephenthere the output when i type in fglrxinfo04:48
BluesKajmeuhlol, are you using an ATI lower end graphics onboard card ?04:48
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meuhlolBluesKaj: i hate ATI :p i use nvidia on my stationary PC, at my server station - Intel, at my laptop - ATI xD but laptop is with windows xD04:49
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meuhlolbut procedure is cute the same for 3D Acceleration04:50
stephenmeuhlol did you see the output04:50
stephenXFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"04:50
meuhlolhuh04:51
meuhlolstephen: sudo apt-get install fglrx-control04:51
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meuhloland after: sudo fglrx-control04:52
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BluesKajwell, meuhlol , those tutorial sites that you suggest work , giving reolution options etc but not 3D and DRI . They do for the higher end radeons but not the X200,  ...take it from me I have one.04:52
The_Machinemy local USB drive isn't being automatically detected/mounted.  It was working so nicely when i first installed Feisty, now it's all crapped out.  I have an ext3 formatted drive i want it to recognize..  can anyone give me some advice on how to fix this issue (once and for all, so it automatically recognizes these drives in the future?)04:53
meuhloland04:53
meuhlolsudo aticonfig --initial04:53
meuhlolsudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv04:53
meuhlol    *04:53
stephenbluesKaj how would i enable 3d accelleration then?04:53
stephensudo apt-get install fglrx-control doesnt work04:53
BluesKajhere try this site http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty04:53
Gote!german04:54
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de04:54
meuhlolBluesKaj: in french documentation its working for all i suppose xD04:54
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stephenffs04:55
stephenill try to install a dual boot and run that game on windows04:56
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BluesKajstephen, which game?04:56
stephenopen arena04:56
stephenits not working GRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!104:56
stepheni click on it04:56
BluesKajdoes it work in windows ?04:56
stephenyes04:57
stephenit opens to a black screen and then exits04:57
BluesKajdid you check the site i posted ?04:57
stephenyes04:57
stephenbut thats a bit complex04:57
BluesKajwell sometimes getting stuff to work on linux is a bit complex , but it's worth it04:58
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BluesKajwhat pc do you have , stephen ?04:59
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stephenits a esystem04:59
stephenmade bu pc world04:59
stephenit has intel pentuim 404:59
stephenxp04:59
stephenand radeon X20005:00
stephen1gb ram05:00
BluesKajdid you pastebin you xorg.conf earlier?05:00
AzzcoCan one have a account name with a capital character?05:00
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stephennope BluesKaj05:00
kasleproMy wireless card doesn't work. It's a  Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller05:00
kasleproWhat do I do?05:01
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BluesKaj!wireless | kaslepro05:01
ubotukaslepro: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:01
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imagineI'm looking for the htmerge and htsearch package... and I can't get them through aptitude05:03
AzzcoMy home folder has set permissions for the user and group Azzco, I can only create a user called azzco?05:03
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The_MachineI'm using Kubuntu - My local USB drive isn't being automatically detected/mounted.  It was working so nicely when i first installed Feisty, now it's all crapped out.  I have an ext3 formatted drive i want it to recognize..  can anyone give me some advice on how to fix this issue (once and for all, so it automatically recognizes these drives in the future?)05:07
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The_Machine:)05:07
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The_Machineanyone?  Bueller?05:09
stephendo a fresh install05:10
The_Machinehah05:10
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The_MachineThis isn't #Windows95, is it?05:10
milesLOL05:10
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The_Machinehehe05:11
BluesKajThe_Machine, are you using KDE 357 ?05:11
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The_MachineI believe so; if that's what the distros official repos would have..05:12
BluesKajopen konq,/help/about kde05:12
milesSysinfo for 'mac': Linux 2.6.20-15-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: Intel(R)Core2CPUT5200@1.60GHz at 800 MHz (3193 bogomips), , RAM: 979/1002MB, 131 proc's, 1.46h up05:13
The_Machine3.5.605:13
milesyea you can type "sysinfo" and it says what version u got05:13
Lynouremiles: did your configuration problem get solved? What kind of setup were you hoping for?05:14
imaginewhat;s universe? apparently htmerge and search are on universe... any idea ?05:14
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BluesKajThe_Machine, i believe the USB recognition issue is fixed in KDE 3.5.705:14
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pag!universe | imagine05:15
ubotuimagine: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:15
The_MachineWhat do you recommend as the best method of upgrading KDE, BluesKaj?05:15
milesim downloading ubuntu server edition05:15
milesim going to try on that05:15
BluesKajimagine, it's a repository that can enable in adept/ manage repositories05:15
mileskinda silly running a  server with a desktop env05:15
BluesKaj!kde | The_Machine05:15
ubotuThe_Machine: KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.05:15
Lynouremiles: subversion will be same on both, I'm sure05:15
imagineBluesKaj: thank you05:15
The_Machineodd, i ran update/upgrade this morning..05:16
Lynouremiles: unless you use some kde specific client for it :)05:16
The_Machineshouldn't it have found it?05:16
milesno05:16
milesim in the #svn channel, but they dont like to help there05:16
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Lynouremiles: I have been offering to help you here, but you don't seem to want it.05:16
milesim not ready for it05:16
milesi appreciate it though05:17
BluesKajupdate and upgrade are 2 different actions , The_Machine05:17
milesi need like 30 minutes05:17
The_Machinei know.  you update before you upgrade..05:17
LynoureShould I go to #svn to help? =)05:17
mileshaha, its kinda dead in there05:17
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milesim just reading up on it before i start asking questions05:18
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The_Machinequestion is:  wouldn't the update have found the newest KDE version and upgrade installed it?  :)  (I could have been using apt wrong all of this time, maybe!)05:18
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mm260865how you enable Restricted Driver Manager in kubuntu?05:19
sorin7486I have just installed kubuntu on my brand new Dell Inspiron 6400 with an ati card05:20
sorin7486and I get really bleak colors...05:20
BluesKajgenii howdy ... how goes it ?05:20
sorin7486how can I fix this05:20
LynoureThe_Machine: yes and no. The newest one in official kubuntu. But there is a newer kdes available in less official repos05:20
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BluesKajmm260865, in adept /manage repositories05:21
stephenhow often are the kubuntu updated?05:21
The_MachineLynoure, hmm.  How did you update to 3.5.7?05:21
geniiBluesKaj: Not bad :) Back from vacation and hangin out05:21
BluesKajcool genii :)05:21
LynoureThe_Machine: I did not, I chose not to, so far05:22
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The_MachineI see.05:22
BluesKajgenii, what browser do you use ?05:22
LynoureThe_Machine: but I can try to look it up for you05:22
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geniiBluesKaj: Generally Firefox but occasionally Konqueror05:22
sorin7486any ideas anybody???05:22
LynoureThe_Machine: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php05:23
The_MachineLynoure, i would appreciate the assistance, as I know that some repos aren't good to screw around with, and some are reliable.  The problem is this.  Let's say i enable the repo just for the KDE upgrade and then I take it off.  When the *official* repo rolls out it's official 3.5.7, could it be any different?05:23
Azzcosorin7486: is it a laptop or stationary computer?05:23
sorin7486laptop05:23
The_Machineer...05:23
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sorin7486Azzco: Inspiron 640005:23
BluesKajtrying to get Konq to save my font settings in config konq , but it doesn't ...any suggestions05:23
BluesKaj?05:23
The_Machinenevermind.05:23
AzzcoI've got no experience with laptops :(05:23
The_Machinehaha.05:23
LynoureThe_Machine: Not much difference, maybe more attention to security bugs, perhaps.05:24
geniiBluesKaj: Nah I haven't messed with Konqueror settings much, no help here :(05:24
The_Machineright05:24
sorin7486Azzco: I think it's the driver's fault... have you ever seen this kind of problem because I didn't05:24
The_Machinei just noticed that.05:24
geniiwork, AFK05:24
BluesKajok genii05:24
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Azzcosorin7486: From what I've heard laptop screens can be tricky sometimes, a freind of mine had a similar problem for some time then it didn't start at all05:25
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AzzcoThere's got to be someone here with more experience on laptops ;)05:25
imagineapparently htmerge htdig are in universe... but I can't find them05:25
AzzcoReboot time!05:25
gesturecan i get a link for configurating ati video cards ?05:25
sorin7486ok Azzco tnx05:25
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stephen!ati05:27
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:27
stephenthere ya go05:27
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stephengesture https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:27
gesturethanks :)05:28
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Dragon_1212yo hi all05:28
Dragon_1212how is everybody doing05:28
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BluesKajimagine, you try to look for " ht " , to se what comes up05:29
Dragon_1212oh and for FREE FULL ANTIVIRUS SOFTWARE FOR LINUX GO TO WWW.AVAST.COM05:29
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BluesKajyou might try05:29
imagineBluesKaj: yes I did.. Ht comes up.. donno if it's a bundle of all of them tho05:29
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BluesKajthere are several under ht05:29
brendan__Hello, does anyone know where the config file that tells knetworkmanager and adept_notifier to start?05:29
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imagineBluesKaj: several I know.. but htsearch and htmerge is not amongst them05:30
geniiBluesKaj: Found something may help, bottom link at this page http://www.kde-forum.org/drucken/9784/1/konqueror-use-always-my-fonts.html05:30
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Tm_TDragon_1212: err?05:31
stephenim too sexy for my dig05:31
stephendog*05:31
stephenteenage mutant ninja turtles05:32
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Lynourestephen: ?05:33
stephenhmmm05:33
stephenhow could i set up a java VNC for my linux05:33
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stepheni wanna connect from school05:33
Lynourestephen: why java vnc? Kubuntu comes with a vnc installed already.05:34
BluesKajthx genii , it wasn't exactly what i wnated but it gave me the right options to look under :)05:34
stepheni know but you cant install apps in school05:34
stephenand java can be online05:34
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geniiBluesKaj: Cool, so long as it was informative :)05:34
stephen!vnc05:34
ubotuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX05:34
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Lynourestephen: so, you want to find java vnc client?05:35
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stepheni dunno05:35
stepheni want to set up my computer to be able to recieve connections05:35
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stephenlol @ dragon05:36
stephenwhat a tard05:36
Tm_Tstephen: should not say that05:36
stephenwhy?05:36
Tm_Tbecause it's not nice05:36
stephenoh05:36
Lynourestephen: because people like me will stop helping you05:36
stephenhehe05:37
GrahamCould anybody name a Linux program I can use to check the tempreture/fan speed of my cpu?05:37
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Tm_TGraham: ksensors05:37
stephenTm_T why are you camouflaged?05:37
GrahamTm_T: Cheers.05:38
Tm_Tstephen: I'm not05:38
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stephenbut you are hiding the fact you are an op05:38
Tm_TGraham: actually, any app that can output some text can be used to show temps05:39
Tm_Tstephen: I'm not05:39
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stephenoh05:39
stephen:(05:39
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GrahamAre the tempretures listed somewhere like /proc/fan or something?05:39
Tm_TGraham: yes, or should05:39
Tm_Tsomewhere there (:05:39
The_Machinehey BluesKaj, after i upgrade to 3.5.7, and i restart KDE..  if it doesn't come up, how do I roll back?05:40
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stephenlinux is so much easier to use in terms of hardware, my dvd drive and ethernet/wifi stopped working on windows05:43
stephennow they are all fixed :)05:43
The_Machinestephen - :)05:43
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The_Machinethrough a web browser05:44
The_Machinejust like normal05:45
The_Machinehopefully they don't require ActiveX05:45
stephenthey do05:45
stephen:(05:45
stephenooooooooohhhhhhh05:46
stephenthey work on firefox05:46
GrahamTm_T: I duno If I'll be too impressed with this.05:46
stephenwith what?05:46
stephenoops05:46
GrahamCan I dock it to my panel?05:46
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Briareos1konqueror (file-management-mode) needs about 1,5 minutes to bring up the menu, when i right-click on a file - why is that?05:49
stepheninurl:view/index.shtml to view ip cams - some actually allow you to control them05:49
Briareos1it works for some time then it happens and from that moment on its like this until i restart the system05:49
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Dragon_1212uhhh this sux i got kicked for advertising some avtivirus software gee ty05:50
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stephenwell its a kubuntu chat room05:51
stephennot a place to make money05:51
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CapaHQuestion, how can I specify what I want my sound device to be? I went to system preferences | sound -- and I set it to "USB Sound" -- (for my headset) -- but even after I click close, the speakers and not the headset continue to make the noise.. ?05:52
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stephen:O try restarting05:52
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CapaHstephen: After I set the sound device?05:53
stephenyes05:53
stephenbut i dunno05:53
CapaHjust tried, no success05:53
CapaHrestarted X05:53
stephen:(05:53
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linouxubuntu fr05:53
Darkrift411!fr05:53
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.05:53
Darkrift411lol05:53
linouxcan i have the ubuntu fr chan svp05:53
CapaHI went to system preferences sonud -- and I set the device on all the options to be the USB sound, I hit 'test' and it worked fine (came out of my headset) --- but all applications producing sound still produce it from the speakers05:53
stephendid you take the speakers out?05:54
stdinCapaH: asoundconf set-default-card CARD-NAME (use asoundconf list to get it's name)05:55
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CapaHstephen: Built in laptop :)05:55
stephenlol05:55
CapaHI could do that... :P05:56
wersguys, are there packages that I can play with since synce-kde works in edgy but not in feisty?05:56
CapaHstdin: After I do that, do I have to reboot?05:56
CapaHah nm I got it05:57
CapaHthakns05:57
stdinCapaH: you shouldn't have to, but you can try05:57
stephen!bot sex05:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bot sex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:57
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stdin!botabuse05:57
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...05:57
The_Machinei just plugged in a usb 2.0 drive (ext3 formatted) into my kubuntu box and I'm not sure where to look to view the files.  It didn't seem to automount...05:57
The_Machinelittle help?05:57
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stdinThe_Machine: anything in /media (or maybe in media:/ )05:58
CapaHstdin: Ok that worked for *some* applicaitons05:58
CapaHapplications05:58
CapaHthe ubuntu start sound came out of the headset, but it did not work for other applications which are still using the laptop speakers05:58
stdinCapaH: it should work with all apps that use ALSA, some apps will need to be restarted to work with it05:59
CapaHstdin: I restarted X05:59
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stdinCapaH: what apps don't work?05:59
CapaHstdin: wine applications05:59
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CapaHah wait05:59
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CapaH(winecfg..)05:59
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james101sorry06:00
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stdinCapaH: yeah, make sure they aren't using OSS06:00
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stepheni get too excited sometimes06:00
stdinstephen: if you want to play with the bot, use /msg ubotu06:00
CapaHstdin: Ok they are using ALSA --- but still no success06:00
CapaHunder "Wave Out Devices" I have two listed: dmix:0 and USB Audio ---- I dont see a way to force one or the other06:01
stdinhmm06:01
The_Machinestdin, i'm not seeing anything in /media, no06:01
The_Machinethanks for responding06:01
The_Machine:)06:02
stdinThe_Machine: try in media:/ it will probably show in there06:02
The_Machineinteresting.  it isn't in there either..06:02
stdinCapaH: try in wineconfig06:02
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stdinThe_Machine: next thing to check is the output of "dmesg | tail" after you have plugged it in06:03
tomashola06:03
tomasooooooooooooooo06:03
stephenis there a windows emulator that doesnt need xp installed already?06:03
tomasgays06:03
CapaHstdin: I tried in winecfg I dont see any way to force one or the other of the two output devices06:03
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stdinCapaH: no, wineconfig <- different command06:04
tomashablen espaol cooooooooooooo06:04
stdinCapaH: make that set to ALSA, and it should use the default06:04
stdin!es | tomas06:04
ubotutomas: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:04
The_Machinei see nothing pertaining to a drive being plugged in.  Interesting.  I'm starting to think it's the device.06:04
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CapaHno success06:05
CapaHstdin: I have it set to ALSA06:05
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stdinThe_Machine: if it shows nothing to do with the device in dmesg, then the system can't "see" it for some reason06:05
The_Machinelooking into this06:06
The_Machine:)  thanks stdin06:06
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stephenTm_T: does tinyXP allow WINE to work?06:07
CapaHstdin: Wine Configuration: "Audio Driver: ALSA; Hardware Acceleration: Full" --- now the thing is, both my laptop speaker and the USB Headset are "ALSA" --- how can I specify which I want?06:08
stephen!wine06:08
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.06:08
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stdinCapaH: hmm, not sure actually. best place to ask would be #winehq , they'd know more06:09
stephenOMG06:09
stephensuddenly a new window has appeared06:09
stephenlol06:09
stephensays ATI control06:09
Dragon_1212lol06:10
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mileshey i got a real good question for you guys, i am running xubuntu right now (im at work on my work laptop)06:12
milesnow watch what happens when i type /sysinfo06:12
milesSysinfo for 'mac': Linux 2.6.20-15-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: Intel(R)Core2CPUT5200@1.60GHz at 800 MHz (3193 bogomips), , RAM: 956/1002MB, 125 proc's, 2.45h up06:12
milessee? it says im running kde 3.5.606:12
milesis there some kind of secret connection between kde and xfce?06:12
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Tm_Tmiles: Konversation?06:13
geniimiles if you had some KDE app you installed it may have installed all of KDE to go with it06:13
Tm_Tgenii: doesn't matter06:13
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stdinmiles: you have the kdelibs installed, it gets that version info from "kde-config --version", or "any-kde-app --version" actially06:15
geniiTm_T: I agree06:15
Tm_Tit's just if he uses KDE app, it gives KDE info too06:16
Tm_Tas stdin says06:16
geniiInteresting06:16
stephenso any suggestions for good apps?06:17
geniistdin So just kdelibs and not entire kde3 will show it is on KDE ?06:18
stdingenii: yeah06:18
stephen!kate06:18
ubotuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code06:18
sorin7486I have a problem with my dell laptop display.. it shows some bad looking colours06:19
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sorin7486I don't know the word for it06:19
sorin7486but it looks quite bad06:19
geniisorin7486: Is this with it plugged into the wall or on battery?06:19
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milestake a screen shot06:19
sorin7486genii: yes... plugged in06:20
sorin7486looks like somebody took the life out of it06:20
sorin7486:)06:20
sorin7486and it's brand new.. I just got it today06:20
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geniisorin7486: I would suspect that it is using power-saving features, but how to fix, no idea06:22
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randominityI'06:22
randominityI'm having a lot of trouble with display drivers on kubuntu06:22
sorin7486I am suspecting the driver06:23
sorin7486because it's an ati06:23
sorin7486but I downloaded the latest driver and it's the same06:23
sorin7486maybe it's just an ugly looking display ?06:23
stephenhmmm does linux handle exe files?06:23
stdinstephen: wine06:23
sorin7486stephen: only if you have wine06:23
sorin7486installed06:23
stepheni got that06:24
stephenlol06:24
geniisorin7486: Did you look for a slider switch or other display adjustment on the laptop itself? (hardware switch, etc)06:24
stephendo you need xp to run it properly?06:24
stdinstephen: then you'd run "wine file.exe"06:24
stephenis it dependant on xp?06:24
pagstephen, nope.06:24
stdinstephen: no, WineIsNot(an)Emulator < W.I.N.E06:24
stephenoooh06:24
stephenthx06:24
geniistdin :)06:25
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Darkrift411heh06:25
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Darkrift411i always thought it was WinE(mulator)06:25
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sorin7486genii: there is no switch06:26
sorin7486anywhere ...06:26
gumjo!grub06:26
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:26
stdinnope, it's a "Windows Compatibility Layer", or that's what it says in the site06:26
sorin7486and it's odd because the login screen sems ok06:26
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mzanfardinoI've got a workstation that when I boot now starts up a series of programs that I can't seem to supress.  I've checked my .kde/Autostart path and find no applications there.  How do I control what applications get started at login?06:26
stdinor rather, an API compatibility layer06:26
geniisorin7486: OK. Usually in the file /etc/default/acpid are the modules it loads for power saving on laptops. You could edit the last line to read "ac" instead of "all"  (with sudo privelege) and then see if it is a power thing or not06:28
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stdinmzanfardino: by default kde starts the apps you had open at logout, so you can either close the apps before logout. or go to System Settings -> Advanced -> Session manager06:28
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mzanfardinostdin: brilliant!  That's what I was looking for.  I recall having seen it somewhere but couldn't recall where.  Thank you06:29
stdinno problem06:29
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randominityI'm having a lot of trouble getting the drivers set up for my video card on my laptop. Its a dell laptop with an nvidia geforce go 7300 card. I've tried everything I could thing of, manual install, using the stuff in the repositories, envy. I just can't get it to work. And envy just wouldn't work at all06:31
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geniisorin7486: Then you restart it with:    sudo /etc/init.d/acpid restart                 if it doesn't know "restart" then do same command but use stop   then same command again but start06:33
juanrandominity: what exactly is the prlem?06:33
genii(this from a console)06:33
randominityjuan: I'm not sure what you mean06:33
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juanrandominity: do you have any problems using the live cd?06:34
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x89xcan anyone help me ??06:36
x89xhello06:36
randominityJuan: I'm trying to get my nvidia drivers up an running to have graphinc acceleration and everything. I dont think I have drivers on the live CD, but I run everything at the propper resolution on both the live and the HDD install. I can't however run any decent games or beryl.06:36
juanwhat's the matter <x89x>?06:36
x89xi want my ASUS A*V-VM drivers06:37
x89xA8V-VM06:37
x89xvideo06:37
x89xCGA drivers06:37
x89xVGA06:37
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x89xcan anyone help ?06:38
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x89xplease06:38
sorin7486genii: same thing.. I think maybe I got used to my other display wich looks way better...06:39
sorin7486and the one on the laptop is just crapy ...06:39
sorin7486thank you for the help06:39
x89xwhere do i find the drivers !!06:39
ARM9I'm on ubuntu and I should use aptitude to install kubuntu-desktop right?06:39
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geniisorin7486: Sorry your issue was not resolved :(06:39
juanrandominity: remember that graphic acceleration is still not very solid, if i were you i would visit http://www.beryl-project.org/06:40
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juan<x89>:are you using a laptop or a desktop?06:40
x89xdesktop06:40
geniisorin7486: You may want to reverse the change back to "all" so that it is in the same state as before.06:40
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randominityjuan: I've been to the beryl website, they have no information regarding my card06:40
randominityjuan: I06:41
chris122380is there a debain repository for ubuntu 7.04?06:41
sorin7486genii: allready done that06:41
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juanmotherboard?06:41
x89xA8V-VM06:41
x89xASUS06:41
ARM9I'm on ubuntu and I should use aptitude to install kubuntu-desktop right?06:41
randominityjuan: I've just had these problems w/ kubuntu, everything worked well in linux mint06:41
geniisorin7486: Well, at least it looks like not a power-save feature dimming it,  anyhow06:41
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chris122380is there a debain repository for ubuntu 7.04?06:42
geniichris122380: Since ubuntu is a derivative of debian but not debian itself, best to use the default repositories for ubuntu and not stock debian repos06:42
x89xjuan06:43
hasanhow can i test whether or not my printer has been installed correctly and ?06:43
hasanunder kubuntu?06:43
x89xcan u help me ?06:43
juani am trying06:43
chris122380problum with that is restricted to few programs only listed in the ubuntu repositories.06:43
x89xthanks :)06:44
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geniichris122380: There are additional repositories which can be added06:44
genii!repos | chris12238006:44
ubotuchris122380: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:44
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juandidi you have any problems installing from the live cvd?06:44
geniichris122380: Also perhaps google seveas repos06:45
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pagARM9, you can use both aptitude and apt-get, but with aptitude you might have less problems removing it afterward06:45
x89xjuan.06:45
x89xi cant change the refdresh rate of my PC06:45
x89xrefresh **06:45
ARM9ye06:45
chris122380I have looked06:45
chris122380it makes no difrance06:45
juan<x89> ok06:45
x89xits fixed to 61 Hz06:45
x89xmy GPU is a VIA/S3G DeltaChrome IGP06:46
geniichris122380: Was there some specific programs you are missing from debian?06:47
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chris122380ubuntu is just so behind and out dated on updates06:47
arunkalewhat updates?06:47
chris122380I have all the repositories turned on06:47
chris122380nevermind06:47
chris122380close minded06:48
juanx89x: in the terminal sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:48
chris122380winetools06:48
chris122380openoffice base dosen't work06:48
chris122380the form wizzards don't work in base06:48
x89xthen juan06:48
x89x??06:48
geniichris122380: You CAN add the stock debian repos lists into your sources.list file but i would not reccomend it. Most will run OK but the ones that do not cause major headaches06:48
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juanx89x: look for SECTION MONITOR06:49
x89xi see it06:49
chris122380what should drive c:\ be for wine?06:50
ARM9What the heck06:50
x89xnow ?06:50
juando you know the refresh rate for your monitor?06:50
ARM9I didn't have to configure postfix last time I installed kubuntu-desktop :S06:50
pagchris122380, ~/.wine/drive_c/  iirc.06:50
ARM9Why do I have to do it now??06:50
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geniiARM9: Likely because it used exim4 previously :)06:50
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x89xit support 85 Hz at 1024 X 768 juan06:50
ARM9genii: ????06:51
stephenmy wine works perfectly06:51
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geniiARM9: exim4 is the default mail program ubuntu wants to use. Postfix is another mail transport program for larger installations like on servers06:51
ARM9Ok, so I don't need to do anything for it??06:52
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juanx89x: this is mine  VertRefresh     43-6006:52
geniiARM9: Nah you should be fine. smtp mail will get delivered no matter if postfix is setup or no06:52
x89x VertRefresh     43-6006:53
x89xsame in mine06:53
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juanyou might want to modify it and intead of 60 put 8506:53
geniiwork, AFK 3-5 mins06:53
ARM9Ok so I chose no settup06:53
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x89xya06:53
x89xbut 70 is fine imo06:54
x89xor 7506:54
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x89xjuan06:54
x89xhow do i save it afer changing to 75 ??06:54
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juancontrol +o06:55
juanx89x: control + o06:55
x89xand whats vertical sync ??06:55
x89xnot06:55
x89xhorizontal sync06:55
x89xwhats horizontal sync ?06:56
juanx89x: there is another way of doing it, in the terminal :  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg06:56
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x89xwhats that juan ?06:56
The_Machineusing Kubuntu, trying to share *any* directory to a windows network.  I believe i've done everything right, but I am not able to log in using the credentials I'm supplying.  I know i'm missing something - little help?  When I go to Properties of the "Share" folder, and go to Sharing, applet status says "Failed to start"06:57
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stephenyou dont need to share06:57
pagCursed_6_ds, just a guess: #openoffice.org  ?06:57
stephenjust install the apss to c:/program files etc etc06:58
juanx89x: that is an application that goes step by step , it will ask you questions and re-configure you xorg.conf06:58
stephenoops06:58
stephenim talking rubbish06:58
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x89xok. ill try that06:59
pagjuan, it's not so step-by-step with -phigh.. ie. It doesn't even ask about kb-layout, but assumes en_US06:59
Cursed_6_dspad: Thanks06:59
juanpag: thanks for clearing that up06:59
pagnp :)07:00
x89xjuan07:00
x89xit doesnt ask about refresh rate07:00
juanx89x: yes?07:01
x89xjuan:  it doesnt ask about refresh rate !!07:01
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x89xjuan: only resolution07:02
pagx89x, drop the -phigh  then it'll ask lots of questions refresh rate abong them07:02
ARM9done07:02
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juanx89x: can you describe in detail the problem with your monitor07:02
pagx89x, in fact not the refresh rate, but V-Sync and H-Sync iirc.07:02
x89xin scrren resolution theres an option of refresh rate07:03
x89xi can change it. it is set to 6107:03
x89xcant07:03
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hasanhow can i list line printers from command line?07:03
Cursed_6_dsCursed_6_ds needs help: can i download the OO.O 2.2 Splash screen? i need to include it in a presentation of promotion of Free Softwtares07:03
juanand when you scroll down what happens?07:03
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doug_hey i can't install java.  it fails everytime07:04
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juanx89x: and what happens when you scroll down?07:04
pagCursed_6_ds, you can..  iirc the licence allows it..07:04
pagdoug_, how does it fail?07:05
shadowhywindhay all, I have a problem and i have no idea where to start to troubleshoot it. When i installed kubuntu, my mouse side scrolls would control my volumn, For some odd reason, it don't do it anymore.. any ideas?07:05
Cursed_6_dspag: so where to download it? i searched on google for it, but couldn't found any :(07:05
doug_pag: let me try running through the add remove programs and i'll tell you specifically07:05
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doug_i get to the license agreement, hit next and...07:06
pagCursed_6_ds, I know just one place, but I guess it isn't good enough :) it's called "OO.o source code"07:06
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pagCursed_6_ds, but if you can allow yourself to download ~300MBs of data just to get one .bmp, then be my guest :P07:07
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doug_pag: it pops up an error saying " There was an error committing changes.  Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages."07:07
x89xjuan07:07
Cursed_6_ds:(07:07
doug_that was for 1.6 runtime07:07
Cursed_6_dspag: :( :'(07:07
x89xi cant select that option !!07:07
x89xits fixed ! can only change the resoultion option07:07
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pagdoug_, try installing from the commandline  sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre07:08
doug_pag: ok07:08
evilmmhey all07:08
doug_as super user, right?07:08
pagCursed_6_ds, but as said: it's only me who doesn't know more places..07:09
pagdoug_, yup.07:09
juanok, then go back to sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf and modify the section monitor so that the vertrefresh reads  43-8507:09
pagCursed_6_ds, do you currently have OO.o 2.2 installed?07:10
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juansave it with control + o07:10
juanand reboot07:10
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Cursed_6_dsdamn good idea :P but for that i gotta shift to linux07:10
doug_how do i click ok in the command prompt after license?07:10
pagdoug_, enter07:10
doug_pag: not working07:11
pagdoug_, use tab to get the 'cursor' there07:11
doug_pag: thanks07:11
doug_pag: nice it went through07:12
x89xjuan07:12
doug_anything else i need to configure?07:12
x89xbut what about the video driver ?????07:12
pagCursed_6_ds, on linux (at least Suse, iirc *buntu has the same) it's located @ /opt/openoffice.org2.2/program/intro.bmp07:12
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x89xjuan: but what about the video driver ?????07:13
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pagdoug_, you should have a working java now... most people want to also configure flash, repos, codecs etc.07:13
juanx89x: do you have any actualproblems with the video appart from the one you specified before?07:14
doug_pag: how would i do that stuff?07:14
pag!repos | doug_07:14
ubotudoug_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu07:14
x89xjuan: when i scroll the window, its choppy !07:14
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x89xlike WinXP without a video driver07:14
doug_pag: thanks07:15
juanx89x: that is the refresh rate,07:15
juancange it, save it,reboot07:15
x89xjuan: i even cant find my Creative SB Live 5.1 Sound Card Driver07:15
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x89xok07:15
x89xbut i even cant find my Creative SB Live 5.1 Sound Card Driver07:15
juanone thing at a time07:16
x89xresstarting PC now07:16
x89x:)07:16
x89xbrb07:16
juanok07:16
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stdinCursed_6_ds: http://ploum.frimouvy.org/images/ooo_splash.png07:17
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stdinCursed_6_ds: or the local file /usr/lib/openoffice/program/intro.bmp07:17
geniistdin Nice :) I was trying to find it in the OOo CVS without luck07:18
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stdingenii: dpkg -S intro.bmp :)07:18
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The_Machinecan I get help?  I've been trying to get 1 folder shared for a few WEEKS07:19
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The_Machineand i haven't been able to have anyone give me the help i need to get it running07:19
The_MachineI'd really appreciate it..07:19
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stdinThe_Machine: there is a built in sharing applet in KDE called "Public File Server"07:20
The_Machineokay07:20
stdinThe_Machine: just add it to your panel and choose the dir to share07:20
The_Machinegot warnings about zeroconf07:21
The_Machinei really wanted to do it via samba07:21
The_Machinethis seems to be chincy07:21
The_Machineheh07:21
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stdinThe_Machine: the other machiene should be able to see it at http://your-ip-address:8001/07:23
The_Machinei don't want to do it through a web browser07:23
The_Machinei need to do it through netbios shares07:23
stdin!samba07:23
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The_Machine\\172.20.10.3007:23
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT07:23
The_Machineman07:23
The_Machinei've tried all of this stuff07:23
The_Machinelike i said, i've been trying this for weeks.07:23
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stdinThe_Machine: I think there is a tool in system settigs too07:24
stdinSystem Settings -> Sharing07:24
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The_Machineyeah07:25
The_Machineisn't working.07:25
The_Machine:/07:25
The_Machinebecause i have all of the right stuff specified07:25
doug_pag: java can't run in konqueror?  because i tried to open yahoo games which is java and it couldn't open07:25
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afd_hi! on a new ubuntu + kubuntu-desktop install, I'm trying to arrange a second panel, at the top, but on the configure panel window, in the arrangement tab there's no combo box to select which panel to configure07:25
arunkalegmail doesnt work in konqueror either07:26
arunkaleonly the basic html view works07:26
pagdoug_, I'm not sure if this'll help, but you could try installing konqueror-nsplugins07:26
afd_I know for sure that I have used this before to select the panel to configure, and the handbook also says about that07:26
afd_is there a regression error here?07:26
afd_ /s/error/bug07:26
doug_oh ok would i do that by sudo apt-get install konqueror-nsplugins?07:26
pagafd_, it doesn't update immediatly; you'll have to either relogin or just rearrange the panel via kcontrol07:27
pagdoug_, yup.07:27
doug_pag: thanks07:27
afd_pag: thanks, trying07:28
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zorglu_q. i would like to reduce the amount of data swapped ? current doing a disk transfert swap all my apps to the point it slow down my typing in a text editor. i heard about swappiness, but what is the meaning of this word ?should i put a high number to reduce swap or a low nunber07:30
zorglu_!swappiness07:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about swappiness - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:30
zorglu_!swap07:30
ubotuswap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info07:30
zorglu_btw this swap issue appeared with feisty, edgy was swapping much less, i dunno if it is usefull info07:31
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m4v3r1ckarunkale: gmail works for me, is the browser identifier set correctly?07:31
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arunkalem4v3r1ck: i can view basic html with default identification. if i change it to anything else, all it outputs is plain text (no layout, just words)07:33
doug_i'm a newb to linux, so in browsers do i have to tell them via commands to run java when they encounter a page with java?07:33
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zorglu_maouaoua come on doing a file transfert swap my apps, i mean those data should not even be cached07:34
juandoug_: no07:34
zorglu_this is a clear cache wiping case07:34
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afd_pag: it worked, thanks07:34
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fakhrijviva!07:34
fakhrijanyone from indonesia?07:34
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SyntuxGood evening.07:40
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trakinas!libata07:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libata - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:41
trakinas!ata07:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ata - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:41
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genii!info libata07:43
ubotuPackage libata does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas07:43
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pagisn't libata kernel-module? if so, it doesn't exist in repos as independed part07:45
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vit_WHAT SPEAK SPANISH???07:47
SlimeyPete!spanish07:48
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.07:48
ARM9!swedish07:49
ubotuSvensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se07:49
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Syntuxguys, I have "stupid" question, Does ubuntu and Kubuntu uses the same core and they diff only in desktop environment ?07:51
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pagSyntux, yup.07:52
pagSyntux, well... also the default apps are different :P07:52
Syntuxpag, then for holy cow sake why ubuntu cannot detect my sound/video/card-reader and bluetooth while kubuntu can ?07:52
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pagSyntux, hmm; just guessing; some of the default apps pull needed drivers as a depencies?07:53
jhutchinsSyntux: user-controlled devices like card readers and bluetooth are handled more by GUI utilities, which are different between the two.07:53
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jhutchinsSyntux: Kubuntu's bluetooth support, for instance, is better than Gnome's.07:53
jhutchinsSyntux: Sound & Video should be the same components though.07:54
jhutchinsSyntux: You sure it's the same version of each?07:54
Syntuxjhutchins, I was able to get bluetooth working on gnome but not sound/video/card-reader properly07:54
jhutchinsSyntux: For video, are you talking about basic functions or 3D acceleration not working?07:55
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Syntuxjhutchins,  same version of what ?07:55
jhutchinsSyntux: kubuntu & ubuntu07:55
Syntuxjhutchins,  yeah and I installed open suse on vmware just to verify if it's by chance or what, and everything was detected with kde open suse heh07:56
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Syntuxjhutchins, acceleration + resolution07:56
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arunkaleopensuse requires 6 cds to install07:56
vzduchthe Spaniards have the right approach to things.. in #kubuntu-es's topic it reads, 'Ask directly, BUT SEARCH GOOGLE FIRST!' :)07:56
jhutchinsSyntux: If you're working within vmware all bets are off.07:56
vzducharunkale: for me it was enough to have 1 DVD to install openSUSE ;)07:57
arunkalevzduch: i didn't like opensuse very much, i'm afraid07:57
Syntuxjhutchins,  no, normal install on my laptop, opensuse is on vmware and even sound is working despite they said it's not supported yet lol07:57
vzducharunkale: well, I did.. until I found Kubuntu Feisty :)07:57
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pafnutiyplease help! how to close vi in terminal so to exit&save modified text (what combination of keys)?07:58
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arunkalei dont like to badmouth any distro, but my experience with opensuse was quite bad.. especially font rendering07:58
jhutchinspafnutiy: esc, :wq<enter>07:58
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pafnutiythanks!07:58
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deweyHey07:58
vzducharunkale: font rendering is normally one of SUSE's strong points.. you must have had something b0rked I guess..07:59
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deweyCould someone give me a hand?07:59
arunkalevzduch: i had used it three years ago, i think.. maybe they've improved it since then07:59
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vzduch!ask | dewey07:59
ubotudewey: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:59
arunkalehttp://themasterplan.in/2007/07/15/sexy-smooth-fonts-on-kubuntu/  <-- now my fonts look like this07:59
Syntuxjhutchins, pag so do you think if I install some KDE packages that installs and identify hardware while using gnome would solve my problem ?07:59
jhutchinsSyntux: No.08:00
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vzducharunkale: 3 years ago must have been 8.2 or 9.008:00
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vzduchit was already very refined in 9.308:00
jhutchinsSyntux: If anything, that would be LESS likely to work.08:00
Syntuxjhutchins, oh and why so ?08:00
dewey!ask How does one download and install additional packages in Ubuntu.  Such as GParted, etc.  Is there a list of software packages available to linux that I can go through and install from within Ubuntu?08:00
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vzduchdewey: in Ubuntu or Kubuntu?08:01
jhutchinsSyntux: Because hardware/configuration level stuff relies on working within the desktop environment.08:01
yeniklasorI'm searching a rss feed application, that must work like this > I will type some keywords, when feed arrived, if feed's topic has my keywords, warn me, if don't have my keywords then don't warn me. Do you know an application like this?08:01
deweyIn Ubuntu (is this the wrong room?)08:01
vzduchdewey: --> /join #ubuntu08:01
jhutchinsSyntux: A stand-alone kde app will run fine on gnome, but they approach system configuration differently.08:01
deweyvzdulch: Thank you!08:01
Syntuxjhutchins, hmm, in term of performance are there any trusted benchmarks between gnome and kde ?08:01
mileshello08:02
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jhutchinsSyntux: No, they are different.08:02
jhutchinsSyntux: Apples and oranges, they are different fruit.08:02
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Syntuxjhutchins, true but you got to compare then in order to differentiate and that benchmark would start by eating :p08:03
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MasterKzuyhola08:06
MasterKzuyp08:06
root__hi08:06
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MasterKzuyspeak spanish???08:06
SlimeyPete!spanish08:06
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.08:06
vzduchroot__: NEVER go online as root!08:06
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in10cityseems kind of quiet in here.08:13
in10cityI was needing some help but wasnt sure if i should just blurt out a question or what...08:14
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vzduch!ask | in10city08:15
ubotuin10city: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:15
m4v3r1ckblurt it away!08:15
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PhinnFortfscking k3b and his friend wodim has just ruined 4 perfectly good cd-rs for me08:16
PhinnFortand counting08:16
in10cityit is about mounting partions08:16
in10cityi found this in your faq https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions08:16
in10citywill that let me see all my partions from the live cd?  I want copy data over to a usb drive before installing08:17
vzduchto my knowledge that howto is for the installed system08:18
in10cityouch08:19
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in10cityis there a way to do it from the live CD?08:19
vzduchof course you can use e.g. the script on the live CD.. question is whether it's feasible; I guess you don't plan on using the live CD for a longer period of time :>08:20
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vzduchPhinnFort: what's the matter?08:20
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PhinnFortvzduch: I think it's my burner, but K3B has all sorts of excuses08:21
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vzducho008:21
PhinnFort"Try TAO", "Try a new disc", etc.08:21
PhinnFortnow I'm trying with a dvd08:21
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vzduchwell, that's the usual way of troubleshooting08:21
PhinnFort;)08:21
in10cityI just wnat to use the live cd to move the information08:22
in10citythen i want to do a full install08:22
vzduchso don't blame K3b and its underlying programs if your burner is giving off its soul ;)08:22
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vzduchin10city: I never used the script; I'd be able to mount my hdds by hand if necessary.. but you can try it; you won't lose any data08:23
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in10citycan you point me to a how to08:23
yeniklasorHow can I install BlogBridge ?08:23
PhinnFortvzduch: :P08:23
vzduchthe one you posted above :)08:23
vzduchwth is BlogBridge?08:24
lx401396ciao08:24
in10cityduhhhhhhhh08:24
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in10citylol guess i should read past the script part08:24
lx401396qualcuno sa dirmi come si usa il comando silent08:24
vzduch!it | lx40139608:24
ubotulx401396: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!08:24
PhinnFortvzduch: I just suspected the kernel would complain in dmesg if the burner was acting up, but dmesg doesn't mention anything other than the kernel not recognising any tracks on the disc (naturally, since it's empty)08:24
lx401396sorry08:25
milesget out of town08:25
vzduchin10city: if you just need temporary access to your drives, you don't have to alter the fstab in the live system.. just mount the partitions :)08:26
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x89xjuan:08:26
milesbut wat if i want a live system08:26
x89xi have messed up my xorg.conf. What do i do ?? ANYONE !08:26
vzduchdefine 'messed up'08:27
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in10cityvzduch what if your IDE drives dont show up when you do a sudo fdisk -l ?08:27
x89xsomeone here told me to edit it to change the refresh rate of monitor08:27
x89xbut when i start the PC, it gives an error !08:27
vzduchin10city: did you indicate the disk device? e.g. /dev/hda08:28
x89xsome video display error08:28
x89xvzduch: What do i do ?08:28
in10cityno i didnt08:28
vzduchthen it can't find anything :)08:28
x89xvzduch: HELP !08:29
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x89xvzduch: Where do i find my VIA deltachrome IGP drivers ??08:30
vzduchx89x: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg --> choose the correct driver for your gfx card, configure keyboard/mouse, configure monitor --> after the resolutions choose Advanced for the monitor frequencies and enter those directly (be sure you have them at hand first)08:30
vzduch!patience | x89x08:30
ubotux89x: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines08:30
x89xSorry :)08:31
x89xbut08:31
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x89xi'm running from the live CD now08:31
PhinnFortok, that does it, it ruined a dvd-r08:31
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vzduchx89x: then find a spec sheet of your monitor first & write down the frequency ranges08:32
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PhinnFort:-[ READ DISC INFORMATION failed with SK=4h/ASC=08h/ACQ=01h] : Input/output error08:32
vzduchthen reboot and execute the above command08:32
x89xit supports 85 Hz at 1024 X 76408:32
in10cityvzduch when i do a sudo fdisk /dev/hda i get Unable to open /dev/hda08:32
x89xwell i just want 75 Hz at 1024 X 76808:32
vzduchin10city: don't forget the -l, you just want an overview of your partitions, not format them :)08:33
x89xcan i edit it w/o restarting ??08:33
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vzduchx89x: you can mount your / & edit xorg.conf by hand.. if you know what to look for/change, that is08:33
in10cityvzduch i did that but got nothing at all sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda that is08:33
in10cityvzduch so i went on to try hdb and hdc and still got nothing08:34
x89xhow vz ?08:34
vzduchin10city: try sda08:34
in10cityi get that08:34
in10cityi have one sata and two ide drives08:35
vzduchit's kind-of a guessing game if you don't know the device names of your hdds08:36
vzduchin that case I'd suggest using a live CD/DVD at first that can mount the partitions automagically, e.g. Knoppix08:37
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vzduchit's good to have one of those at hand anyway :)08:37
x89xvzduch: how do i mount xorg.conf ??08:37
in10cityvzduch thanks, i was considering that also08:37
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in10cityi will see you again i am sure thanks again vzduch08:38
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vzduchin10city: you're welcome08:38
x89xvzduch: of that installed version in this live CD version >08:38
viki2000i have k800i and i connected to the internet but it is very slow in suse 10.208:38
viki2000any info08:38
viki2000please08:38
vzduchviki2000: /join #suse08:38
viki2000no body help thir08:38
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viki2000i friend told me to go to your chanel08:39
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vzduchx89x: what partition is your / on, and what filesystem does it have?08:39
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stephenhi08:40
x89xits on disk-2 and is ext308:40
x89xsorry08:40
vzduchwhat is 'disk-2'?08:40
x89xits on disk-108:40
vzduchin terms of a /dev name08:40
x89xpartiotion 208:40
x89xhow can i know that ?08:40
stephendo i have to install linux on partition #1 if i want to have a dual boot?08:41
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x89xno. XP on 1 and linux on 208:41
stdinstephen: no, just make sure grub is installed on the MBR08:41
stephenMBR?08:41
vzduchstephen: it can reside anywhere.. only prerequisite is that the partition where /boot is on is in the range of the first 128 GB on the disk, otherwise GRUB won't find it08:41
stephenhmmm08:42
stepheni have a 80bg HDD08:42
stdinstephen: Master Boot Record, it's the default. it will show as "(hd0)"08:42
x89xvzduxk: i'm sorry but can you help me know the partition ?08:42
vzduchstephen: then it doesn't matter08:42
stdinvzduch: that's not true anymore08:42
stephenso i can just put it in any  partition?08:42
vzduchstdin: I believe I just read of such a case for Feisty yesterday08:42
stdinvzduch: assuming you mean MB, not GB08:42
vzduchstdin: I mean GB08:43
stdinvzduch: don't see why, as long as grub can see the partition08:43
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x89xvzduch: i'm sorry but can you help me know the partition ?08:43
stephenive already installed linux on partition 1 i think08:43
stdinstephen: yeah, any partition you want. you can even spread it about a bit08:43
stephenhow would i find out in terminal?08:43
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stdinstephen: sudo fdisk -l08:44
stephenthx08:44
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vzduchstdin: at least this problem existed 2 years ago.. I had tried to install a beta of SUSE 10.0 to a 10 GB partition at the end of my 160 GB disk (~139 GB thus), and Grub didn't find the partition08:44
x89xvzduch: its /dev/hda308:45
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stephen!pastebin08:45
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:45
vzduchx89x: 'sudo mount -t ext3 -o defaults /dev/hda3 /media'08:45
stdinvzduch: strange, grub should just read the partition table and boot to whatever. the only limit I know is that /boot can't be in LVM08:45
stephenstdin can you look at this please? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30136/08:45
x89xvzduch: then ?08:46
login_guys , do you know if the gutsy kernel has any type of stamp or something on it saying it is a gusty kernel08:46
login_i am remastering ubuntu and want to know08:46
vzduchx89x: then access the partition at /media08:46
lunar-ravenugh :(.  I reinstalled windows (on a seperate partition) because i wanted to try a program in it..however, without even asking me, it deleted ALL of my partiitions on BOTH harddrive :(..is there ANY way to get data back?..i swear im never touching windows again08:46
vzduchi.e. /media/etc/X11/xorg.conf08:46
stdinstephen: /dev/hda1 is the root, /dev/hda5 is swap which is inside of /dev/hda2 (extended partition)08:46
login_anyone?08:46
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stephenso what partition do i need to install xp in?08:47
vzduchlogin_: for Gutsy questions /join #ubuntu+108:47
stdinlogin_: only the version number08:47
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vzduchstephen: XP likes to be in the 1st partition of the 1st disk, but it can be installed in other partitions08:48
stephenhmmm08:48
stdinyou can kinda "trick" XP in grub too08:48
stephenhow would i set up XP through linux?08:48
vzduchstephen: ?08:48
stepheni have tinyXP btwe08:48
vzduchnever heard of08:49
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stdinyou don't, you install XP from the disk08:49
stephenlol08:49
stephenok08:49
stepheni think tinyXP can run on linux08:49
stdinmaybe in vmware08:49
vzduchin a VM perhaps.. the 'big' XP can too :>08:49
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stephenwhat is VM and do i need to buy it?08:50
SlimeyPetestephen: check out virtualbox and vmware08:50
stdin!vm08:50
ubotuThere are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications08:50
lunar-ravenif i were you id not install xp08:50
lunar-raven;[08:50
lunar-ravenlol08:50
vzduch!virtualbox08:50
ubotuVirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox08:51
stdinVBox is nice, not quite as many features as VMware, but very good08:51
stephenhow do i edit the /etc/apt/sources.list08:52
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vzduchvery concrete specs for running VirtualBox.. 'Reasonably powerful x86 hardware'..08:52
stdinstephen: kdesu kate /etx/apt/sources.list08:52
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vzduche.g.08:52
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SlimeyPetevzduch: well, it all depends what you want to run in it ;)08:53
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vzduchSlimeyPete: say, I'd like to run a virtual XP.. would my K7-900 w/ 768 MB RAM be enough for decent performance?08:54
linouxxxubuntu-fr plz, a link08:54
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m4v3r1cklunar-raven:i'm not sure if you can recover anything from a format, i know there are some programs for recovering but is for deleted files, not after format.08:54
stdin!fr | linouxxx08:54
ubotulinouxxx: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.08:54
SlimeyPetevzduch: that's a bit low, but you'd probablybe OK if you onlywant to run basic stuff08:54
linouxxxthx08:54
yurimxpxmanIn ktorrent, I used to be able to double-click a torrent to view the files, but it doesn't do that now.. any ideas?08:54
lunar-ravenyeah08:54
lunar-raveni think i cant recover08:54
lunar-raventhis really sucks08:54
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m4v3r1ck:(08:55
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vzduchlunar-raven: what did you install anyway?08:55
lunar-ravenWindows.08:55
vzduchno, what ruined your hdds?