[06:09] <HappyCamp-John> hi robr_laptop 
[06:10] <robr_laptop> hi HappyCamp-John 
[07:57] <agoliveira> rusty, bspencer: Hi!
[07:57] <rusty> hey
[07:57] <bspencer> agoliveira, howdy friend
[07:57] <agoliveira> Are you guys back to US or at guadec?
[07:57] <bspencer> both
[07:58] <bspencer> I'm in oregon
[07:59] <agoliveira> Cool. I forgot to ask friday: is there any missing bits we need to get yet to have the full environment ready?
[08:03] <CharliefJohnson> Hey Guys - Will we be able to generate UME images as part of the Tribe-3 build ?? 
[08:05] <bspencer> CharliefJohnson, agoliveira  -- I really want to test that out but I can't today.  I will work on trying out the stuff tomorrow (Tues) and see what patches are needed to get a UME image with our stuff looking right
[08:06] <agoliveira> CharliefJohnson: Hi. I saw your email but wanted to talk to rusty before answer. Looks like you have it :)
[08:07] <agoliveira> CharliefJohnson: That said, I dont believe we will be able to put it into tribe 3.
[08:12] <CharliefJohnson> agoliveira: If not, then we need to come up with a separate build schedule for UME.  I really need to be able to inform folks on when we'll truely have a UME build available.
[08:14] <CharliefJohnson> i.e. "folks" in this context means Intel management.
[08:16] <agoliveira> CharliefJohnson: Well, this is out of my league but we will have tribe 4 in August 9th. If we dont have any more delays with the remaining bits, we can get it there.
[08:17] <CharliefJohnson> agoliveira: I need to talk to Tollef.  Aug 9th is way too late.
[08:18] <agoliveira> CharliefJohnson: He`s at gaudec now. Lets see if he can jump in.
[08:21] <bspencer> CharliefJohnson, agoliveira  I thought the deadline was Tues?
[08:22] <bspencer> that's literally /hours/ away  :)
[08:22] <bspencer> hours are big things in which lots of work can get done
[08:24] <CharliefJohnson> The Tribe-3 email that went out said Thursday this week for the freeze.
[08:25] <agoliveira> bspencer, CharliefJohnson: No, tuesday is the freeze and thursday is the release.
[08:25] <agoliveira> So, we still needed to test, package any missing bits, upload, build, etc
[08:26] <agoliveira> Thats why I dont think that will be possible.
[08:27] <agoliveira> Ah, just had an answer from Matt about this. Check out the embedded ML
[08:27] <CharliefJohnson> bspencer: You're right.  I misread it.  mdz just sent a responce to my email on the mailing list.
[08:29] <bspencer> agoliveira, CharliefJohnson   good news.  I have to defer to rusty who was there.
[08:29] <agoliveira> I didnt know that the automated builds are already in place so, if the bugs are fixed in time, we should have it on T3.
[08:39] <jacob-laptop> mdz: do you know why the lpia build are mostly pending? e.g. linux-meta 2.6.22-8
[08:46] <agoliveira> jacob-laptop: You mean the kernel? Right now I can see 
[08:46] <agoliveira> linux-image-2.6.22-8-ume - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.22 on i386
[08:46] <agoliveira> linux-image-debug-2.6.22-8-ume - Linux kernel debug image for version 2.6.22 on i386
[08:46] <agoliveira> linux-image-ume - Linux kernel image on 386 Embedded/Mobile
[08:51] <Mithrandir> jacob-laptop: because lpia isn't fully bootstrapped yet, stuff doesn't generally build there just yet.
[08:52] <Mithrandir> CharliefJohnson: as I said on Friday, we have daily images now.  I haven't responded to your email yet because of lack of working-y network.
[09:06] <TeTeT> is the 'moblin.org' announcement augmenting Ubuntu Mobile or is it intended as an alternative?
[09:09] <bspencer> TeTeT, not an alternative
[09:09] <bspencer> it is hosting some of the projects that didn't have a home
[09:10] <bspencer> like moblin-imgae-creator
[09:10] <bspencer> and the UI
[09:10] <bspencer> has a mobile browser repository, etc.  It can be upstream for some of these apps.
[09:14] <TeTeT> bspencer: thanks for the clarification!
[09:15] <agoliveira> rusty: BTW, the package name for the project builder is changed but the program itself has not. :)
[09:16] <HappyCamp-John> agoliveira, It has changed in the moblin.org repository.
[09:16] <HappyCamp-John> The binary program name is now called: image-creator
[09:16] <agoliveira> HappyCamp-John: Thanks
[09:17] <HappyCamp-John> http://www.moblin.org/projects_image-creator.html and http://www.moblin.org/build-results/tools/moblin-image-creator/
[09:17] <Mithrandir> HappyCamp-John: we should actually change that again into moblin-image-creator, IMO.
[09:18] <HappyCamp-John> We could.  The package is called moblin-image-creator Mithrandir but we did shorten the executable name to image-creator.  Rusty is all powerful and all knowing, so I will leave it up to him :)
[09:18] <rusty> Mithrandir, what another name change :->
[09:19] <Mithrandir> rusty: ;-)
[09:20] <Mithrandir> I'd actually have called it something else like the suggestions we came up with here a couple of days back, but rusty didn't approve.
[09:21] <rusty> yea, i'm thinking i should have... what was it... something something of doom
[09:21] <Mithrandir> micod?
[09:21] <Mithrandir> (mobile image creator of doom)
[09:22] <Mithrandir> mibod was the one
[09:22] <Mithrandir> s/creator/builder/
[09:22] <Mithrandir> rusty: anyway, I need to do a new upload of m-i-c, your git tree should be fine to pull from now?
[09:22] <agoliveira> I would go for mifod just for the kicks of the way it sounds in Portuguese (answers for that in pvt only) :-D
[09:23] <HappyCamp-John> Mithrandir, feel free to pull from rsync://moblin.org/repos/tools/moblin-image-creator.git
[09:25] <Mithrandir> it pulled something, now I need to make git understand it should merge that into my local branch
[09:29] <Mithrandir> rusty: have you pushed all your stuff to moblin.org?
[09:30] <rusty> Mithrandir, yes
[09:30] <Mithrandir> hm
[09:31] <Mithrandir> any idea why git claims I'm up to date, then?
[09:31] <rusty> Mithrandir, looks like i had another changeset to push
[09:31] <rusty> pull again
[09:31] <Mithrandir> the one with the fset cleanups?
[09:32] <rusty> yea, this contains that and others
[09:32] <Mithrandir> the url given by HappyCamp-John above is correct?  It claims I'm up-to-date with it already..
[09:32] <rusty> the changeset id should be deb04605d06a5c562be2e81c418df0000678ce0a
[09:33] <rusty> Mithrandir, i just pushed (after i originally said yes)
[09:34] <Mithrandir> still claims I'm up to date
[09:35] <Mithrandir> so, if I do git pull it should merge in your changes to my master branch, right?
[09:35] <rusty> yea, unless there was a conflict
[09:36] <rusty> the url is correct
[09:36] <rusty> for kicks... go to another directory and do a fresh clone
[09:44] <Mithrandir> ok, coolie, it worked now, apart from giving me conflicts.
[09:44] <Mithrandir> no idea why it failed before
[09:45] <Mithrandir> *cough*.  Merging from hildon-desktop wasn't the brightest thing I've done. :-P
[09:48] <rusty> yeap, i wouldn't think hildon-desktop would merge very well
[09:50] <Mithrandir> can you now please merge from git://git.err.no/moblin-image-creator ?
[09:59] <rusty> Mithrandir, ok
[10:00] <Mithrandir> actually, just wait a little bit; I'm adding some other bits before I upload
[10:01] <rusty> ok
[10:08] <HappyCamp-John> bspencer, lunch? :)
[10:13] <Mithrandir> rusty: ok, please pull now.
[10:13] <rusty> ok
[10:13] <Mithrandir> rusty: if you can verify it makes you happy, I'll upload this.
[10:15] <rusty> Mithrandir, why do you want it to use the ume kernel on the samsung?
[10:15] <Mithrandir> rusty: hm, I don't?  I thought we wanted that one there too.
[10:15] <Mithrandir> if not, I'll change it to linux-386
[10:15] <Mithrandir> so we get the restricted bits
[10:17] <rusty> in the samsung config fset, you changed the kernel from linux-image-386 to linux-ume... isn't that the lpia kernel?
[10:18] <Mithrandir> pull again. :-)
[10:20] <rusty> Mithrandir, i thought yesterday you said i should be using 'generic' instead of '386'?
[10:21] <Mithrandir> *sigh*
[10:22] <Mithrandir> :-P
[10:22] <Mithrandir> worst case, I'll just uncommit those commits
[10:22] <Mithrandir> there, pushed
[10:26] <rusty> ok
[10:34] <Mithrandir> rusty: apart from my silliness above, it should be fine now?
[10:35] <rusty> looks good
[10:37] <Mithrandir> cool, please pull
[10:37] <Mithrandir> (0.4 released)
[10:37] <Mithrandir> and uploaded
[10:38] <rusty> Mithrandir, just found a bug
[10:38] <Mithrandir> damn you. :-P
[10:38] <rusty> we refer to a fset in a dep that doesn't exists
[10:38] <Mithrandir> hm
[10:38] <Mithrandir> care to just fix it and I'll pull and do a 0.5?
[10:38] <rusty> let me fix it
[10:39] <rusty> sure
[10:39] <rusty> there will always be more... well, for a while
[10:39] <Mithrandir> sure, there are always bugs.
[10:39] <Mithrandir> that doesn't mean we can't upload stuff
[10:44] <Mithrandir> rusty: tell me when I can pull and upload?
[10:45] <rusty> now
[10:46] <Mithrandir> what do I need to change in order for git to remember that it should pull from the rsync url?  It now tries to pull using ssh, which.. doesn't work.
[10:48] <Mithrandir> there
[10:48] <Mithrandir> there, uploading
[10:49] <rusty> fix .git/remotes/origin
[10:51] <Mithrandir> ok, tagged, pushed, plz merge
[12:10] <Kain> Anyone here have a q1 ultra?
[12:10] <bspencer> me :)
[12:18] <Kain> What version do you own?
[12:19] <Kain> Because I am looking at a model for 900 US and it says it has an a110 but my research says this model is an a100.
[12:24] <bspencer> Kain, sorry -- I'll check, I'm in a mtg temporarily
[12:33] <Kain> Ah thanks