=== doko__ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-099-162.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-toolchain === infinity_ [n=adconrad@cerberus.0c3.net] has joined #ubuntu-toolchain === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-toolchain === marcin_ant [n=marcin@194.114.146.126] has joined #ubuntu-toolchain [02:12] hi all [02:12] jbailey: hello [02:12] jbailey: I got a question to you - are you available? [02:28] marcin_ant: Well, I woke up less than 5 minutes ago and noticed the nick highlight. [02:29] But if you'll accept that I might make no sense, ask away. [02:49] jbailey: ok [02:49] jbailey: I hope that now you can talk [02:49] jbailey: I'd like to ask you some glibc questions, but only if you can guarantee that you won't make sense. [02:49] jbailey: The bug in question doesn't make sense, so if your response doesn't make sense, we may be in two-wrongs-making-rights territory. [02:50] infinity: If you're a true euclidian, you'll know that you need three wrongs to make a right. [02:50] jbailey: so, my question is about cdbs - because I found your mail in cdbs documentation [02:50] jbailey: That's three lefts. [02:50] infinity: Sure, but they were one-way streets. I live in Montral. [02:50] jbailey: I'm trying to prepare package that has source in *.zip file [02:51] If there was CDBS documentation, my name probably wasn't on it. =) [02:51] At least, not as a copyright holder. [02:51] jbailey: then I use tarball.mk to unpack this source to build-dir [02:51] marcin_ant: You're almost certain to get better CDBS support from #ubuntu-motu than from jbailey... [02:52] jbailey: problem is that I cannot create dpatch because when I run dpatch-edit-patch there is no source in debian directory.. [02:52] jbailey: any idea what to do with this problem? [02:52] marcin_ant: I have never used dpatch and cdbs together. [02:52] I know that quilt works reasonably well, but once you're willing to use tarball.mk, simple-patchsys.mk is a nice choice. [02:52] Much less overhead than dpatch. [02:53] infinity: I did already - no response as far [02:53] At that point, just put diffs in debian/patches [02:53] They can be either -p0 -p1 or -p2 to apply, it'll figure it out per patch. [02:54] marcin_ant: The problem with asking Jeff how to use CDBS is the above -- he just tells you to use it the way he does. :) [02:54] infinity: :D [02:54] Given that I have never read any documentation for cdbs, I can't say whether it's well documented or not. The trick is generally to refer to the source code, which is well commented. [02:54] We have plenty of packages using tarball.mk and dpatch together, I'm sure. And some of the MOTUs are sure to know which those are. :) [02:54] Although you may need to understand some of the finer points of GNU Make. [02:59] infinity: can you point me to such package? [03:00] marcin_ant: Nope, hence why I suggested the MOTUs. :) [03:01] infinity: ehh to be honest they are not helpfull but maybe this time ;) [03:03] marcin_ant: A Monday morning may not be the best time to find volunteers. Europe is in their workday, north america isn't awake yet. [03:05] jbailey: well you are propably right [03:07] Oh, FFS. [03:08] as SEGV on lpia... [03:08] jbailey: another thing is that popably most Europeans are just pretending that they work (it's so hooot here) ;) and studens have holidays [03:08] Good thing we don't need that. [03:08] marcin_ant: I'm not pretending to work, I assure you. [03:09] infinity: When did you become a European? [03:09] Or do you mean racioethnically. [03:09] ? [03:09] jbailey: I'm in London. [03:09] doko: Be awake, I need someone to yell at. [03:10] infinity: Ah, cool. I hadn't realised you were still there. [03:10] jbailey: To be fair, I hadn't realised either until a few minutes after I woke up this morning. [03:11] heh [03:11] (I hate that "waking up in a strange place" feeling) [03:11] "This is not my beautiful flat panel TV, this is not my uncomfortable bed..." [03:11] And on Canonical sprints "Who's that in the bed beside me?" [03:13] London is not in hot part of Europe today (as usual they got ugly weather) [03:13] Yeah, I have the room to myself now. No more wondering whose beautiufl wife that was. [03:14] And thinking of skieving off, I probably shouldn't my last week of work. === jbailey heads off to the office. === jbailey [n=jbailey@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-toolchain === tmarble [i=tmarble@nat/sun/x-9040f10c0b78e69a] has joined #ubuntu-toolchain [07:02] infinity: ? [07:03] doko! [07:04] doko: Your gcc-4.2 (lpia) and the i386 binutils don't seem to get along. as SEGVs during the binutils build. [07:04] doko: And you showed up just as I was considering leaving for the day... [07:05] infinity: which binutils version? [07:06] The latest. [07:07] (In both cases: the latest i386 build is being used, and the latest source is being built with it) [07:11] infinity: when built with the lpia gcc? [07:12] doko: When built with the lpia gcc-4.2, yes. [07:12] doko: When built using the i386 gcc-4.1, it goes fine. Haven't tested the i386 gcc-4.2. [07:13] how did you setup your current chroot? do you have gcc-4.1 / gcc-4.2 / binutils / dpkg /apt packages availabel somewhere? [07:14] doko: I can throw the whole chroot at you, if you have the bandwidth... [07:14] Including, for bonus points, the failed build tree, and the log. [07:14] infinity: the chroot would be fine [07:15] Taring now... [07:18] doko: chinstrap:~adconrad/binutils-failure.tar.bz2 [07:19] doko: For extra points, that tarball is huge because I left all my packages in /tmp ... So, if you need to fiddle around with installing other versions, then reinstalling the lpia stuff, it's there. [07:19] doko: And the build was as the buildd user in /build/buildd (with a build.log there too) [07:48] infinity: Are you sending that of the thread and tin-cans from .au? =) [07:48] jbailey: I'm not in .au... [07:49] Sure, but your build boxes probably are. [07:49] Nah, this is on molybdenum, in the DC. [07:49] And if it wasn't, it'd be on my laptop, the fastest x86 machine I own. [07:49] Heh. [07:50] (Also the only x86 machine I own...) [07:50] But dude, if you put wheels on it, is there enough surface area to put a grip strip and use it for boarding? =) [07:50] Nah, I have more purchasing sense than that. :P [07:50] You're still using the surfboard, I take it? [07:52] Angie's going to inherit it soon. [07:52] It's a great machine for playing Age of Mythology under wine. [07:52] Or Caesar 3. === infinity [n=adconrad@cerberus.0c3.net] has joined #ubuntu-toolchain